| stelis | Good. I actually did some work on my doc. | 12:15 |
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| CharlieSu | Hi, yall.. I've found an error in the documentation | 12:17 |
| CharlieSu | An entire section is wrong actually | 12:18 |
| stelis | Eeek. | 12:18 |
| stelis | Do you have a link? | 12:19 |
| CharlieSu | yes.. I posted on the forums but nobody has said anything.. it has been bothering me bigtime.. here is the link: | 12:21 |
| CharlieSu | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299935 | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 12:23 |
| stelis | FWIW, I beleive that that feature is inherited from Debian, so it sounds odd that it's not in the Ubuntu version of the installer | 12:23 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure where we picked up the installation guide from | 12:23 |
| CharlieSu | ya.. makes me sad | 12:24 |
| CharlieSu | i want that feature bigtime | 12:24 |
| stelis | Have you checked Launchpad? | 12:24 |
| stelis | It could be that the feature was pulled from Edgy for a technical reason. | 12:25 |
| Burgwork | ubiquity doesn't support raid or encryption yet | 12:25 |
| Burgwork | might do in Feisty cycle, but is unlikely to | 12:25 |
| Burgwork | however, the alternate installer does | 12:25 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: but the installation guide is for the alternate installer | 12:26 |
| Burgwork | then it should work | 12:26 |
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| CharlieSu | stelis: no, how can I find that on launchpad? Also, it isn't on 6.06 or 6.10 | 12:30 |
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| fumbalah | how good is the ntfs support in ubuntu? | 12:31 |
| stelis | CharlieSu: The main page is here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs | 12:32 |
| fumbalah | Cause i'm going to put it on my server if the support is half decent | 12:33 |
| stelis | I'm curious - why do you need to read NTFS on a server? | 12:35 |
| CharlieSu | stelis: how can I find out what that feature is called so that I can request it.. I want to encrypt for my laptop.. | 12:35 |
| stelis | CharlieSu: I've just done a couple of searches for LUKS and cryptsetup, and people seem to be using these features. | 12:36 |
| stelis | Perhaps ask on #ubuntu how people are setting up encryption right now | 12:36 |
| CharlieSu | stelis: i've tried.. nobody responds.. I really wanted to do it straight from the CD.. That would have been a great feature.. | 12:37 |
| fumbalah | stelis: I need to be able to move a ton of Mp3's from an NTFS drive | 12:39 |
| stelis | Ah. I think that read support works out of the box, so this should be OK. | 12:40 |
| stelis | CharlieSu: Perhaps try the Debian Etch installer. | 12:42 |
| stelis | It's the same software as the Ubuntu Alternate CD, I think. | 12:43 |
| CharlieSu | stelis: but would that install Debian or ubuntu? | 12:43 |
| Burgwork | debian | 12:43 |
| Burgwork | the ubuntu alternate installer uses debian-installer | 12:43 |
| CharlieSu | Burgwork: but it dosn't have the encryption feature | 12:44 |
| stelis | I was thinking that you could try it and see if there is difference | 12:44 |
| Burgwork | CharlieSu: have you gone looking? | 12:44 |
| CharlieSu | Burgwork: i've tried it with 6.06 and 6.10 | 12:44 |
| Burgwork | hmm | 12:44 |
| CharlieSu | Burgwork: the encryption in the Ubuntu docs looks like it was copied and pasted from somewhere else.. Because it doesn't exist | 12:45 |
| CharlieSu | Burgwork: do you want the URL I'm talking about? | 12:45 |
| Burgwork | yep | 12:45 |
| CharlieSu | https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html#partman-crypto | 12:45 |
| Burgwork | if Debian already has it, it is a matter of a bug report | 12:45 |
| Burgwork | yes, that is upstreams help | 12:46 |
| Burgwork | where upstream==debian-installer | 12:46 |
| CharlieSu | Burgwork: I'm not sure I understand what upstream is.. Is it on the alternate CD? | 12:46 |
| Burgwork | sorry, upstream is a generic term for the people who original produced teh software, in this case debian | 12:47 |
| CharlieSu | so do you think this is something that was left out on purpose? or something that was accidentally left out? | 12:49 |
| Burgwork | likely an accident, or maybe that part not merged | 12:52 |
| Burgwork | I would ask Kamion (also known as cjwatson), he is a d-i and ubiquity author | 12:52 |
| CharlieSu | Burgwork: thanks. | 12:53 |
| CharlieSu | I really hope it gets fixed.. That would be awesome to have support like that built in | 12:54 |
| CharlieSu | i found a great link.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/39326 | 01:00 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 39326 in debian-installer "installer: dm-crypt support missing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 01:00 |
| CharlieSu | yep | 01:01 |
| stelis | ubugtu is a bot :) | 01:02 |
| CharlieSu | i know... just found out | 01:02 |
| stelis | That threw me the first time as well :) | 01:03 |
| CharlieSu | stelis: is it possible to use another distro like debian to install ubuntu with this feature.. | 01:03 |
| stelis | Many of the packages have differences. | 01:04 |
| stelis | But Etch is fairly up to date, so if you really want the feature you could get it that way. | 01:05 |
| stelis | (By installing Debian rather than Ubuntu) | 01:07 |
| CharlieSu | stelis: i want to install with the debian CD but use Ubuntu.. is that possible? | 01:30 |
| LaserJock | nope | 01:33 |
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| mdke | morning | 08:47 |
| bhuvan | morning mdke! | 08:50 |
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| glatzor | ping Burgwork. I would like to integrate UWN into Rosetta | 05:29 |
| glatzor | ping mdke: how can I add an additional issue to a docbook list only using rosetta | 05:41 |
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| Burgwork | glatzor: sure, use the moin to docbook thingy | 06:20 |
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| glatzor | Burgwork: I thought about txt2po | 06:21 |
| glatzor | Burgwork: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter so I would need write access to the product :) | 06:23 |
| Burgwork | rightr | 06:25 |
| Burgwork | what specific permissions do you need? | 06:26 |
| glatzor | Burgwork: wait. it seems that I can already create branches and releases :) | 06:30 |
| Burgwork | glatzor: don't need to create bzr branches | 06:30 |
| glatzor | right. I could also use the original wiki page as template. | 06:31 |
| glatzor | let us see if this works too. | 06:31 |
| glatzor | Burgwork: so I would need the right to upload po templates. | 06:32 |
| glatzor | https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter/issue-21/+translations | 06:32 |
| glatzor | hm, Burgwork. Carlos doesn't reply on IRC. Perhaps they are quite busy and run on hot coals :) | 06:42 |
| Burgwork | yep | 06:43 |
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| fumbalah | Good morning :) | 07:08 |
| fumbalah | Actually i guess its afternoon | 07:09 |
| LaserJock | still morning here | 07:09 |
| fumbalah | lol | 07:10 |
| fumbalah | Where you at? | 07:10 |
| LaserJock | Reno, NV, USA | 07:13 |
| nixternal | bah | 07:13 |
| fumbalah | Good call...I'm in kentucky | 07:14 |
| nixternal | 7651 and 357 - upload is 16% worse than average | 07:17 |
| nixternal | yaya | 07:17 |
| nixternal | yay rather | 07:17 |
| nixternal | Burgwork: im gonna go put some money in your pocket here in a few ;p | 07:21 |
| fumbalah | nixternal: I'll take some money :-p | 07:25 |
| nixternal | i bet you would | 07:25 |
| nixternal | fumbalah: where at in ky are ya? | 07:25 |
| Burgwork | nixternal: I will happily take money, but why? | 07:27 |
| fumbalah | nixternal: Lexington | 07:30 |
| nixternal | Burgwork: gotta buy a new book, someone decided they wanted it more than i did | 07:33 |
| nixternal | fumbalah: i didn't realise the internet made it that far ;p | 07:34 |
| nixternal | i just got a phone call from across the border...i answered and not one bit of english was spoken to me...thank god i took all those years of spanish to realise what they were saying | 07:49 |
| nixternal | actually, it came from montana | 07:51 |
| LaserJock | what? | 07:55 |
| nixternal | on my cell phone at that | 07:56 |
| Burgwork | nixternal: are you drunk? you are making no sense | 07:58 |
| nixternal | i don't drink, so i guess the answer would be no | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: he's got to be on something ;/ | 07:59 |
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| nixternal | LaserJock: im on life brother ;p | 08:01 |
| nixternal | echo "bank, bookstore, school" > /home/nixternal/later | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | ok, so you need to try your story again | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | fine, be all confusing and run | 08:02 |
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| jwhitlark | I've been putting a number of internal links onto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers. Would someone take a look and tell me if they have any suggestions? | 08:13 |
| jwhitlark | My goal is to make it the goto place for ubuntu servers, since I needed one of those for my company anyway. | 08:13 |
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| mdke | jwhitlark: yeah, that's our goal too. Can you post the links you've added to the mailing list so people can comment? | 08:46 |
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| jwhitlark | mkde: ok, sent a quick email detailing changes. | 09:11 |
| jwhitlark | mdke: oops, sorry. | 09:11 |
| jwhitlark | mdke: I also think we should have a section on general setup issues, things like logrotate, logwatch, tripwire, backup, and basic mail setup. Have you seen anything like that? | 09:13 |
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| mdke | jwhitlark: the mail setup stuff has some material, not sure about logs/backup etc. It sounds like a good plan. | 09:18 |
| jwhitlark | mdke: So perhaps a link at the top of the server page titled "Common setup" or something? I know what I want to put there, but I'm not sure what to call it. | 09:30 |
| mdke | jwhitlark: maybe a section at the top of the page with links to each task. Check for existing documentation on those subjects | 09:35 |
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