[12:15] Good. I actually did some work on my doc. === CharlieSu [n=charlie@pool-71-123-3-56.austtx.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:17] Hi, yall.. I've found an error in the documentation [12:18] An entire section is wrong actually [12:18] Eeek. [12:19] Do you have a link? [12:21] yes.. I posted on the forums but nobody has said anything.. it has been bothering me bigtime.. here is the link: [12:21] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299935 [12:23] hmm [12:23] FWIW, I beleive that that feature is inherited from Debian, so it sounds odd that it's not in the Ubuntu version of the installer [12:23] I'm not sure where we picked up the installation guide from [12:24] ya.. makes me sad [12:24] i want that feature bigtime [12:24] Have you checked Launchpad? [12:25] It could be that the feature was pulled from Edgy for a technical reason. [12:25] ubiquity doesn't support raid or encryption yet [12:25] might do in Feisty cycle, but is unlikely to [12:25] however, the alternate installer does [12:26] Burgwork: but the installation guide is for the alternate installer [12:26] then it should work === motin_ [n=motin@c80-217-109-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:30] stelis: no, how can I find that on launchpad? Also, it isn't on 6.06 or 6.10 === mpt [i=mpt@conference/canonical/x-aca1ba646d7e4830] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:31] how good is the ntfs support in ubuntu? [12:32] CharlieSu: The main page is here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs [12:33] Cause i'm going to put it on my server if the support is half decent [12:35] I'm curious - why do you need to read NTFS on a server? [12:35] stelis: how can I find out what that feature is called so that I can request it.. I want to encrypt for my laptop.. [12:36] CharlieSu: I've just done a couple of searches for LUKS and cryptsetup, and people seem to be using these features. [12:36] Perhaps ask on #ubuntu how people are setting up encryption right now [12:37] stelis: i've tried.. nobody responds.. I really wanted to do it straight from the CD.. That would have been a great feature.. [12:39] stelis: I need to be able to move a ton of Mp3's from an NTFS drive [12:40] Ah. I think that read support works out of the box, so this should be OK. [12:42] CharlieSu: Perhaps try the Debian Etch installer. [12:43] It's the same software as the Ubuntu Alternate CD, I think. [12:43] stelis: but would that install Debian or ubuntu? [12:43] debian [12:43] the ubuntu alternate installer uses debian-installer [12:44] Burgwork: but it dosn't have the encryption feature [12:44] I was thinking that you could try it and see if there is difference [12:44] CharlieSu: have you gone looking? [12:44] Burgwork: i've tried it with 6.06 and 6.10 [12:44] hmm [12:45] Burgwork: the encryption in the Ubuntu docs looks like it was copied and pasted from somewhere else.. Because it doesn't exist [12:45] Burgwork: do you want the URL I'm talking about? [12:45] yep [12:45] https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html#partman-crypto [12:45] if Debian already has it, it is a matter of a bug report [12:46] yes, that is upstreams help [12:46] where upstream==debian-installer [12:46] Burgwork: I'm not sure I understand what upstream is.. Is it on the alternate CD? [12:47] sorry, upstream is a generic term for the people who original produced teh software, in this case debian [12:49] so do you think this is something that was left out on purpose? or something that was accidentally left out? [12:52] likely an accident, or maybe that part not merged [12:52] I would ask Kamion (also known as cjwatson), he is a d-i and ubiquity author [12:53] Burgwork: thanks. [12:54] I really hope it gets fixed.. That would be awesome to have support like that built in [01:00] i found a great link.. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/39326 [01:00] Malone bug 39326 in debian-installer "installer: dm-crypt support missing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [01:01] yep [01:02] ubugtu is a bot :) [01:02] i know... just found out [01:03] That threw me the first time as well :) [01:03] stelis: is it possible to use another distro like debian to install ubuntu with this feature.. [01:04] Many of the packages have differences. [01:05] But Etch is fairly up to date, so if you really want the feature you could get it that way. [01:07] (By installing Debian rather than Ubuntu) [01:30] stelis: i want to install with the debian CD but use Ubuntu.. is that possible? 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I would like to integrate UWN into Rosetta [05:41] ping mdke: how can I add an additional issue to a docbook list only using rosetta === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACC83357.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@cpc2-stok6-0-0-cust395.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:20] glatzor: sure, use the moin to docbook thingy === pygi [n=mario@83-131-68-17.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:21] Burgwork: I thought about txt2po [06:23] Burgwork: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter so I would need write access to the product :) [06:25] rightr [06:26] what specific permissions do you need? [06:30] Burgwork: wait. it seems that I can already create branches and releases :) [06:30] glatzor: don't need to create bzr branches [06:31] right. I could also use the original wiki page as template. [06:31] let us see if this works too. [06:32] Burgwork: so I would need the right to upload po templates. [06:32] https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter/issue-21/+translations [06:42] hm, Burgwork. Carlos doesn't reply on IRC. Perhaps they are quite busy and run on hot coals :) [06:43] yep === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:08] Good morning :) [07:09] Actually i guess its afternoon [07:09] still morning here [07:10] lol [07:10] Where you at? [07:13] Reno, NV, USA [07:13] bah [07:14] Good call...I'm in kentucky [07:17] 7651 and 357 - upload is 16% worse than average [07:17] yaya [07:17] yay rather [07:21] Burgwork: im gonna go put some money in your pocket here in a few ;p [07:25] nixternal: I'll take some money :-p [07:25] i bet you would [07:25] fumbalah: where at in ky are ya? [07:27] nixternal: I will happily take money, but why? [07:30] nixternal: Lexington [07:33] Burgwork: gotta buy a new book, someone decided they wanted it more than i did [07:34] fumbalah: i didn't realise the internet made it that far ;p [07:49] i just got a phone call from across the border...i answered and not one bit of english was spoken to me...thank god i took all those years of spanish to realise what they were saying [07:51] actually, it came from montana [07:55] what? [07:56] on my cell phone at that [07:58] nixternal: are you drunk? you are making no sense [07:59] i don't drink, so i guess the answer would be no [07:59] Burgwork: he's got to be on something ;/ === jwhitlark [n=user@h-67-102-70-2.snfccasy.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:01] LaserJock: im on life brother ;p [08:02] echo "bank, bookstore, school" > /home/nixternal/later [08:02] ok, so you need to try your story again [08:02] fine, be all confusing and run === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-89-243.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:13] I've been putting a number of internal links onto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers. Would someone take a look and tell me if they have any suggestions? [08:13] My goal is to make it the goto place for ubuntu servers, since I needed one of those for my company anyway. === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-242-137-75.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:46] jwhitlark: yeah, that's our goal too. Can you post the links you've added to the mailing list so people can comment? === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-76-91.25-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-179-139.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:11] mkde: ok, sent a quick email detailing changes. [09:11] mdke: oops, sorry. [09:13] mdke: I also think we should have a section on general setup issues, things like logrotate, logwatch, tripwire, backup, and basic mail setup. Have you seen anything like that? === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:18] jwhitlark: the mail setup stuff has some material, not sure about logs/backup etc. It sounds like a good plan. [09:30] mdke: So perhaps a link at the top of the server page titled "Common setup" or something? I know what I want to put there, but I'm not sure what to call it. [09:35] jwhitlark: maybe a section at the top of the page with links to each task. Check for existing documentation on those subjects === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jrshannon [n=jrshanno@S0106000f3d5cf89d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc