fdovingimbrandon: it's a compilefix to make the package compile on ppc. + minor improvements.12:16
fdovingit'll probably be the last version of that package, as schedutils will be included in the next util-linux release (2.13).12:18
imbrandonfdoving: ok uploaded , /me is afk for ~1 hour12:23
fdovingimbrandon: ok, thanks a bunch :)12:23
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hollywoodbI'm curious about sudo behaviour in (k)ubuntu... after a few days using 6.10 I have anywhere from 5 to 20 'sudo' processes Sleeping, and similar numbers for kdesu12:45
orkidtry asking in #kubuntu12:46
Riddellit's a fair developer question12:46
Riddellalthough I can't recreate the problem12:47
orkidtrue, but i thought it might get better support there12:47
hollywoodbI've asked there a couple times this past week, no real answers.12:47
Riddellyes, you'll get more of a developer answer here :)12:47
hollywoodbI'm not really familiar with sudo other than how to use it, same goes for kdesu ;)12:47
Riddellkdesu does start a redundant sudo, before the real sudo12:47
Riddellbut there's no reason why it should be sleeping12:47
fdovingdoes sudo on the commandline work as expected? 12:47
hollywoodbfdoving: yep, works fine12:48
hollywoodbalthough I can't always recreate the problem, it seems a bit random12:49
fdovingdo you have a bunch of sudos running now? 12:49
fdovingsleeping.. that is.12:50
hollywoodbfdoving: no, fresh boot not too long ago12:50
hollywoodbI believe it may be linked to running synaptic from Kmenu, as it seems there's about a 30% chance nothing will happen (visually) other than startup notification... one second12:54
hollywoodbthat's what I get immediately after a 'failed' attempt to start synaptic via kmenu12:55
fdovinghollywoodb: next time you experience it, you can run: 'for pid in `pidof sudo`;do cat /proc/$pid/cmdline;echo \n;done' from konsole, and then save the output to a file and come back. I guess it'll say something like '/usr/bin/sudo-uroot/usr/bin/kdesu_stub-n' - then it'll be kdesu magic.12:55
fdovingbut that's only one.12:56
hollywoodbfdoving: I bet if I keep launching synaptic I can get some more ;)12:56
fdovingit didn't start, it just sleeps in the background? 12:56
hollywoodbfdoving: correct, its working now, but about 30% of the time I get the startup notification (bouncing cursor, etc), and nothing else but that12:57
fdovinghmm.. is this edgy? 12:57
hollywoodbfdoving: aye12:57
fdovingyou're in the admin group, and the admin group is in /etc/sudoers, right? 01:00
fdovingyou haven't modified /etc/sudoers? 01:00
fdovingdo you experience problems with the Administration Mode.. buttons in system settings? 01:00
hollywoodbfdoving: no problems there, I'm in admin, /etc/sudoers is correct...01:02
fdovingyou can -try- to add your user on a separate line in /etc/sudoers, If it works it must be a bug in sudo.01:03
fdoving.. i've seen various threads on forums etc. with that solution.01:03
fdovinghaven't experienced problems with kdesu in edgy though.. 01:04
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hollywoodbfdoving: I'm wondering if it isn't kdesu... I'll keep playing around and seeing if its just synaptic, or I can get the same effect with 'Administrator Mode', Adept, other things that use kdesu... if it persists I'll try adding myself to /etc/sudoers as well01:04
fdovingplease come back with your testresults :)01:04
hollywoodbfdoving: will do, though will probably take a few days to get some reliable numbers ;)01:05
fdovingsure, not a problem :)01:06
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jjesseso i can change my repositories to fiesty yet and start upgrading?02:35
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nixternali did it on my test machine02:36
jjesseany big changes yet?02:36
nixternalthere is a memory leak somewhere though, and i haven't put my finger on it just yet02:37
nixternalpretty much just the kernel that you have to manually update after doing the dist-upgrade02:37
nixternalalrighty...looks like i have some packaging free time tonight...what "needs" to get done?  don't sling me kde4 or something like that either, or i will /part and run away crying02:55
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Jucatoimbrandon: are you free for a question?05:00
nixternalno Jucato, he charges05:03
Jucatobtw nixternal, I think there might be a typo or error in UWN. I'm not sure what the sentence really means, though05:04
Jucatonixternal: "No, this is a team for representing Ubuntu at Burning Man, rather to work on the burning infrastructure in Ubuntu."05:04
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Jucatosorry, I just thought, you were partly involved :)05:05
nixternalisn't Burning Man like 6 months away?05:05
nixternali have a friend who goes to those things05:05
nixternalactually it is a year away now05:06
nixternalit was end of aug, beginning of sep05:06
nixternalman..i want to get to packaging..but i don't want to step on some toes05:10
nixternalget some of the upstream releases rockin'05:11
nixternalif there are any ;)05:11
nixternali stepped on toes for gwenview last release..don't want to do that again05:12
Jucatoouch.. quite traumatic. did they get mad?05:14
nixternalnot publically, but it was already someone elses project05:15
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viviersfRiddell, ping05:48
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lnxkdea present for kubuntu-devs06:06
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jjessethat's a funy picutre06:25
Mezpresent for the kubuntu devs - http://bazaar-vcs.org/06:26
crimsun(surely you meant tailor?)06:27
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Jucatoexcuse me crimsun, what do you think about this sentence in UWN? it looks/sounds a bit strange: "No, this is a team for representing Ubuntu at Burning Man, rather to work on the burning infrastructure in Ubuntu."06:28
jjessei think it should be no this is not a team06:28
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jjessejust edit the wiki page06:30
Jucatoah I'm allowed to do that?06:31
Jucatook editing :)06:31
Mezwheres the link for UWN (seeing as I work on the burning team)06:32
JucatoMez: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue21 but I just edited it :(06:32
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JucatoI think I just did... ouch...06:33
crimsunimo, it should be clarified to mention "programs used for CD and DVD creation in Ubuntu" instead of "burning infrastructure in Ubuntu"06:34
crimsunit's not immediately obviously to unclueful people what burning entails06:34
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Jucatopoor desk...08:54
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Jucatoouch... poor me :)08:55
Mez:lart Jucato 08:55
Jucato@lart Mez08:55
Jucatooops.. not working in here :)08:55
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JucatoHobbsee: !!!!!08:56
Hobbseehey Jucato!08:57
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Jucatogo go go!! :)08:57
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JucatoHobbsee: btw, were you involved much already during Dapper's development?08:57
Jucatouh oh...08:57
Mez/kb Hobbsee mwahahaa08:57
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HobbseeJucato: some of it.  the merging, yes08:57
Hobbseei left a couple of days before feature freeze, and didnt end up doing much after that.  apart from all teh dh_iconcache stuff08:58
HobbseeMez: traitor08:58
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nixternalKubuntu is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get08:58
MezHobbsee, i believe i turned off ctvp replies08:58
nixternalhiya Hobbsee!08:59
Hobbseehey nixternal 08:59
HobbseeMez: you didnt08:59
HobbseeMez: and you're still a traitor08:59
Hobbsee[18:58]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from Mez: xchat 2.6.6 Ubuntu08:59
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MezHobbsee, weird, 08:59
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nixternalg'nite all08:59
Mezi've set it to null in xchat08:59
Hobbseenight nixternal 08:59
Jucatogoodnight nixternal!09:00
Mezy am i a traitor ?09:01
Mezand Hobbsee try the ctcp version again09:01
Jucatoxchat 2.6.6 Ubuntu <---09:01
MezJucato, so? I dont use kopete either, I dont like the interfaces and xchat does more for me 09:01
JucatoI think that's what Hobbsee meant...09:01
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Hobbsee[19:01]  [CTCP]  Received CTCP-VERSION reply from Mez: foo baaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh09:02
HobbseeMez: was meaning traitor for not using konversatoin09:02
Riddellviviersf: hi09:10
Hobbseeraphink: ping?09:14
Hobbseehey Riddell 09:14
Riddelldear kdebase, why can't you just be a good boy and compile!09:20
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MezRiddell, is that s2d or s2r ?09:21
HobbseeRiddell: because it's fun not compiling!09:22
raphinkpong Hobbsee09:35
raphinkwriting your letter to father christmas, asking for a kdebase that builds?09:35
Hobbseeraphink: i've just fixed bug 72116 in feisty - what did you want to do in dapper?  (it's installing bible time in arabic)09:35
UbugtuMalone bug 72116 in bibletime "Bibletime installation defaults in Arabic" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211609:35
Hobbseesorry, s/dapper/edgy/09:36
Hobbseeraphink: you're the maintainer, arent you?09:36
Hobbseeor the one involved in it?09:36
raphinkit's not about bibletime09:36
raphinkit's about the sword-text-arasvd package09:36
Hobbseethey're all providing sword-text09:37
raphinkthe problem is that bibletime suggests sword-frontend09:37
LathiatHobbsee: hrm i cant stand gui irc clients09:37
LathiatHobbsee: irssi beats all09:37
raphinkyes osrry09:37
HobbseeLathiat: heh09:37
raphinkwhich is a virtual package provided by all sword-text_*09:37
raphinkand arasvd is just the first one in the list09:37
Hobbseeraphink: yes, so i changed it to recommend sword-text-web, so it's in engly09:37
raphinkyes, but no09:37
raphinkI don't agree09:37
raphinkit should recommend the sword-text virtual package09:38
LathiatHobbsee: also has the added advantage of being available to me from everywhere i go and sometimes even from my phone :)09:38
HobbseeLathiat: true09:38
raphinkit's aptitude that's faulty, the not the package09:38
Hobbseeraphink: but the sword-text virtual package that doesnt exist09:38
raphinkif people want to use aptitude and install suggested packages by default09:38
raphinkit's not my fault09:38
raphinkyes it does exist Hobbsee09:38
Hobbseeraphink: yes, well, you can fix aptitude instead.  09:38
raphinkit's not about fixing aptitude09:38
Hobbseeit's provided by - it's not a straight package09:38
raphinkif people choose to use aptitude, they deal with the consequences09:39
raphinkwhich is that it installs tons of crap you don't need09:39
Hobbseehow would you prefer to fix it?  you're free to revert my changes, if you want09:39
Hobbseehow does apt handle it?  doesnt apt install recommends by default too now?09:39
raphinkapt doesn't install suggested packages09:39
raphinknot that I know of09:39
raphinkor recommends09:39
raphinkit only install depends09:39
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ show bibletime | grep sword-text09:40
HobbseeRecommends: sword-text, sword-dict, sword-comm09:40
raphinkand considers that people are smart enough to read the recommends and suggests fields09:40
Hobbseeit's recommends.  and i believe that's changing?09:40
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Hobbseeyou're right, apt still doesnt install by default09:40
raphinkit'd be a mess otherwise09:40
raphinkdealing with server installations09:40
Hobbseeso the bug is really only about aptitude - are you suddenly saying that you dont care about aptitude users?09:40
Hobbseetrue that09:40
raphinkif apt installed all the recommends each time09:40
raphinkso well09:41
raphinkpeople choose to use aptitude09:41
Lathiatrecommends should be used better i guess09:41
raphinkthey deal with the fact that they get lots of stuff09:41
Lathiatfor 'dependencies' that wont break the apckage if not installed09:41
raphinkI'm not responsible for this09:41
raphinkI'm sorry to take it this way Hobbsee09:41
raphinkbut I've seen aptitude break things, break metapackages stuff and so on09:41
Hobbseetrue.  so the recommends only affect aptitude users.  do we fix the recommends for them?  or do we just say "screw you, for not using the deafult install method"09:41
raphinkwhile apt-get works properly09:41
Hobbseei know that.  but we probably do need to support it.  09:42
raphinkwhat is the spec for the recommendation field in Policy?09:42
crimsunit doesn't say that virtuals can't be used.09:43
raphinkI think aptitude shouldn't take the first package matching the virtual package09:43
raphinkit should use debconf to give a list of available packages providing it09:43
raphinkand let the user choose one or more09:43
raphinkthat's where the problem is09:44
raphinkthat aptitude will take the first matching package09:44
raphinksame for apt actually09:44
raphinkwhen dependencies are |09:44
raphinkit takes the first one09:44
raphinkinstead of asking to choose09:44
viviersfRiddell, hello, i need sum info [;z09:45
raphinkso if you want the second option, you have to install it first, otherwise it will installl the first one09:45
raphinkHobbsee: you get the reason why I didnt' fix this bug though09:45
raphink(didn't know it was reported on LP in the first place, I some users had complained about this arasvd thing)09:45
Hobbseeraphink: true that.  09:45
raphink(and everytime they were using aptitude)09:45
Hobbseeraphink: indeed.  so obviously aptitude's screwed, but the workaround to that is to default to english, presumably09:46
raphinkso I just told them to use an install manager that let them control what they install, and it would be better09:46
raphinkHobbsee: I don't call that a workaround09:46
Hobbseeseeing as the arabic package anyway is installed with all the arabic language packs, as a rdep of ichutux live09:46
Hobbseewhat's better?  09:46
raphinkHobbsee: although if you're going to do that, please put sword-text-kjv instead09:46
Hobbseeyou're free to change it, if you wanted09:47
raphinkbecause web is not a recognized translations by many people09:47
Hobbseeyet kjv is old english?09:47
raphinkI'd rather think of a better solution though09:47
Hobbseei'm fine doing it, if you want09:47
Hobbseeraphink: want me to take care of it, as i've got it here?09:47
raphinkyes Hobbsee, but some people (for some reason) consider it to be the only proper translation into english09:47
Hobbseei think they're nuts, but true :)09:47
raphinkI don't agree with them either Hobbsee, but they are numerous09:47
raphinkand it's true that KJV is a very good translation09:48
raphinkmy choice would be to recommend WLC and TR though09:48
Hobbseewhat's TR?09:48
raphinkTextus Receptus, Old Greek New Testament09:48
raphinkand WLC is Westminster Codec, Old Hebrew Old Testament09:48
raphinkto me, that's the default09:49
raphinkoriginal texts :)09:49
Hobbseeyes, but most people cant read that :P09:49
raphinkwell as original as possible that is09:49
raphinkHobbsee: then they will install additional modules09:49
raphinkthat's why I've made the sword-language-packs09:49
raphinkapt-get install sword-language-pack-en09:49
raphinkand you get english texts and commentaries09:49
raphinkeven, language-selector will take care of it09:49
Hobbseeraphink: fixed.  true09:49
raphinkif you have libsword6 installed09:49
fdovingraphink, hobbsee, did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendsSupport ? 09:51
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raphinkI wouldn't want apt to install recommends10:16
raphinkif that were to happen, a lot of companies would remove Debian/Ubuntu from their machines10:16
raphinkthink of the cli packages that recommend guis and how it would install GNOME or KDE on servers10:17
raphinkjust an example10:17
fdovingfor the metapackage section, it's nice.10:27
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seaLneshould feisty actually work?  i appear to have a machine that doesn't even start now03:15
hungerseaLne: It does here...03:19
hungerseaLne: But actually I try to avoid rebooting this early in the development cycle:-)03:20
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seaLnei'd replaced to much to continue :)03:22
seaLneah it appears to not like lvm everything (apart from /boot)03:22
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seaLnebut i have no idea how to get around this, anyone know if you could mount lvm stuff from knoppix?03:32
seaLneor i suppose kubuntu live cd03:33
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Jucatohi bddebian03:42
bddebianHi Jucato03:42
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fdovinghmm.. and suddenly xrandr doesn't work.06:12
Tm_THmm, some different hardware under test now, old random pc stuff, have some difficulties to install succesfully.06:54
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nixternal\sh_away: im trying my hand at kdiff3 merge right now, if everything goes well and it is alright with you, i can have it uploaded08:32
nixternalanyone else want some help on mergest, let me know08:33
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ubotuAnnouncement from my owner (Seveas): ubuntusecurity08:59
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alleefdoving: about UNRELEASED.  I would just  replace the unreleased entry with the kubuntu entry and only add a note :  Added debian changes from alioth: ..09:03
fdovingallee: ok.09:03
alleefdoving: at the top you can then list what you changed additionaly09:03
alleefdoving: about branches....09:04
alleefdoving: have not investigated how this works.  fabo (ping;) wanted to look into it.09:04
alleefdoving: as long as the change is valid for debian & kubuntu  just commit to trunk09:05
fdovingWould be great to have a central place to commit changes.09:05
alleewhen we need kubuntu specific changes, then we have to use branches of course09:06
fdovingI could version this the debian-way then.. and have the changes commited to alioth.09:06
alleefdoving: pkg-kde-extras was added to buildserver.net wich build sid/etch/sarge & edgy,dapper pkgs automaticly.09:07
fdovingnot that it's in any way necessary.09:07
fdovingnice :)09:07
fdovingwhere are those packages to be found? 09:07
fdovingmultiple arches too? 09:07
alleefdoving: for this work automaticly I assume the kubuntu branch needs to be at a special place.  Not looked into this yet09:08
doelmananyone experience with pptp?\09:09
fdovingdoelman: what's the problem with it? 09:10
doelmani can't connect to the windows vpn on my work using pptpconfig09:10
alleefdoving: http://buildserver.net   (but today it seem to have (web?) problems)09:10
doelmannot on kubuntu, not on mandriva09:10
fdovingdoelman: ok. I have very little experience with the client side, I have setup the server side a few times.. 09:11
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doelmanthe server is running windows09:12
alleefdoving: ah, one more thing about UNRELEASED.  It's kept like that until upload to debian happens.  If you kwlan changes are valid for debian too.  Leave it, commit to trunk and ask on pkg-kde-extras ml for an upload.09:13
fdovingallee: ah.. smart :)09:14
alleefdoving: yeah, then you can pick the original and no ubuntu1, no merging later ;)09:14
fdovingthat's the idea, do everything once, and proper. in debian, and then just let the magic-scripts do the rest for ubuntu and universe.09:15
alleefdoving: yeah. this may I maintain digikam* kipi* pkg for a long time :)09:16
tomaallee: do the ftp masters have to accept mailody before the builds happen?09:19
alleetoma: yes09:19
tomaallee: how long does that take approx?09:20
alleetoma: in my between 1 day and 6 weeks (worst ;)09:20
tomaallee: what happens when i release rc2?09:20
alleetoma: I'm not sure how fast stuff is currently handled.  Depends on time in release cicle.  Maybe #debian-qt-kde knows more09:21
alleetoma: rc2 is no problem.  when rc2 is upload, ftpmaster checks latest one09:22
tomao ok09:22
alleetoma: my last pkgs (some moon back) took only 1-3 days09:22
tomaallee: i'ld like to see some build logs before the final09:23
alleetoma: and that it's for experimental  on the other hand may speed it up ;)   AFAIR the work in first upload first served mode.09:23
alleetoma: mhmm, should buildserver.net give you this?  AFAIK they check and build as long as it's UNRELEASED09:24
tomaallee: its down since the upload09:24
tomacant chack09:24
alleeyeah. :(09:24
tomabefore that it had data of june, so i'm starting to think its doing something now ;-)09:25
alleedid you bug kk@ about it (as listed in the web page?09:25
tomai'm the patient type ;-)09:25
fdovingallee: are the upstream orig.tar.gzs commited to svn aswell? 09:27
fdovingfor ../tarballs that is.. 09:27
alleetoma: about the -dbg pkgs.  Doesn't krashmanager in kubunt download gdb and -dbg on demand09:27
allee^ AFAIK09:27
alleefdoving: no orig.tar files   as well as upstream no sources09:28
tomaallee: no idea at all09:28
alleefdoving: so in 95% of the cases alioth has content only in debian/09:28
alleefdoving: but svn-buildpkg has support to only svn add/remove upstream files that are patched + debian dir of course09:29
fdovingallee: where does buildserver.net go for orig.tar.gzs ? 09:29
alleefdoving: but I'm a fan of all changes in debian/09:29
fdovingLet's say I bump the version in pkg-kwlan/trunk/debian/changelog to 0.5.6-109:30
alleefdoving: look that the rules file: the all (should) end with09:30
allee+       @@dh_testdir09:30
allee+       @@[ -d ../tarballs/. ] 09:30
allee+       @@dpatch-get-origtargz ../tarballs09:30
fdovingit does.09:30
allee(without +)09:30
alleethat the way the buildnet server download the orig file09:30
fdovingah.. it's the watch file.09:31
fdovingthat is so smart.09:31
alleenever tried it, because I usually work on pkg before the official release09:31
fdovingwhy doesn't ubuntu have this? 09:31
alleewhat? watch files?  They have09:32
fdoving(launchpad got soemthing, but it's to complicated and lacks docs all over the place)09:32
fdovingwatch files, yes, but i'm thinking of the idea with a huge repo with most packages debian/ dirs in.09:32
fdovingand a debian/rules entry to get the orig.tar.gz. It's so clever.09:33
alleefdoving: they try hard with bzr in lauchpad.09:33
fdovingI uploaded kio-apt to bzr/launchpad. but I think the idea is to get the upstream source into launchpad aswell.. and that's not so clever imho. (you can add upstream svn/bzr/repos, etc). 09:34
fdovingdidn't really understand it that well.09:34
fdovingI'll do it the debian way for now. It's more elegant.09:34
alleefdoving: well having all source as other advantages, but needs much more resources.09:34
fdovingwhat about the homegrown projects with only tar.gz releases?09:35
alleefdoving: then debian in in the tarball and to run the rules file you already need to have the tarball ;)09:36
fdovinghmm.. how is get-orig-source trigered from svn-buildpackage?09:38
alleefdoving: svn-buildpkg uses the watch file09:39
alleefdoving: get-orig-source was newly added when the buildserver.net support was added09:40
alleefdoving: about 0.5.6-1  when it's out, replace current kwlan (0.5.5-2)  with it.  As long as UNRELEASED is used, the is no official 0.5.5-2 pkg09:41
fdovingallee: http://rafb.net/paste/results/slcBcJ94.html09:43
fdovingThat's what happens when i move the orig.tar.gz away from ../tarballs/09:44
fdovingit doesn't download anything. because nothing triggers debian/rules get-orig-source09:44
fdovingis there a switch to svn-buildpackage I can't find? 09:44
fdovingto make it download? 09:45
fdovingah.. there is --svn-prebuild09:52
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alleefdoving: heh, I don't use svn-buildpkg.  I would have tried  make -f debian/rules get-orig-source ;)10:03
alleeI've to leave.  until tomorrow night10:04
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fdovinghmm.. doesn't dpatch-get-origtargz understand the svn-ugrade part of the watch file? 10:43
Hobbseehey fdoving 10:43
fdovinglooks like it's just renaming the .tar.bz2s..  to tar.gz and continues happily.10:43
fdovinghi hobbsee.10:43
fdovingexperienced with debian/watch files and  dpatch-get-origtargz ?10:44
nixternalsudo apt-get install nixternals-universe-domination10:45
nixternalwhy doesn't that work?10:45
nixternali must have packaged it wrong10:45
nixternalahhh, it seems i need to 'sudo apt-get --purge remove Hobbsees-sharp-pointy-stick-of-doom' first10:46
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nixternalHobbsee: i was already in there10:46
toma*eeks* pointy sticks?10:46
nixternalso it isn't null anymore10:46
Hobbseethen you cant talk!10:46
Hobbseetoma: yep.  there's a new version of kvpnc out, btw10:46
nixternali think i found a vulnerability with /dev/null10:47
tomaHobbsee: ok, and you want me to make a mess of it?10:47
tomai'm very good at relicensing stuff to LGPL10:47
Hobbseetoma: well, if it's for debian...10:48
Hobbseetoma: or get allee to do it, but you're here :P10:48
Hobbseewhoever likes putting new versions of things in10:48
tomaHobbsee: i remember you have an account there as well, so maybe point a stick at yourself?10:49
tomaas a good excersice (or however you write that word)10:49
Hobbseetoma: that's true.  that means i have to figure out how to use it?10:50
Hobbseehehe.  exercise, i believe10:50
tomaah. thats a problem for me too 10:50
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Hobbseetoma: does that mean i have to NMU it?   presumably not10:51
tomaHobbsee: hmm. who is the regular maintainer?10:52
Hobbseetoma: kde extras10:52
tomakeep that10:52
tomaHobbsee: you can prepare everything and send a mail to the ml with a request to upload10:54
Hobbseeoh right :)10:55
Hobbseetoma: oh damn, but i dont have a sid pbuilder.10:58
tomaHobbsee: sid and feisty should not be very different, i assume10:59
fdovingyou can make a sid pbuilder too :911:01
Hobbseetrue that11:02
Hobbseeor i can use a friend's11:02
fdovingI'm getting more and more pro working with a central vcs for packages, like alioth.11:02
tomai dont have one (assume i'm a friend here ;-))11:02
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fdoving..try to remember something about converting tar.bz2s to tar.gz on the fly when running debian/rules get-orig-source (which again uses dpatch-get-origtargz, which uses the info in the debian/watch file if everything else fails.. ). 11:20
Hobbseeunbz<tab>, gzip -9 resulting tar.  easy11:23
fdovingi know, but some existing tool -must- provide this functionality.11:24
fdovinguscan,uupdate,svn-upgrade.. something.11:24
Hobbseeit's nto that long, anyway11:24
fdovingi have no plans on doing it manually, i want this to happen automatically.11:25
Hobbseewrite a shell script for it11:26
seeleimbrandon: wtf is going on in kansas?  from what i hear on the news its turning in to baltimore :P11:54

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