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BluesKajstill splittsville or has the server finally settled down ?12:14
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mrobbertI'm having some troubles with the syncing a Palm OS device with kpilot, anybody around that can  help me out?12:22
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T3hWiz0rdI just know how to sync windows mobile to linux12:22
fdovingmrobbert: kpilot on edgy?12:22
mrobbertYes, on Edgy12:23
fdovingi've heard roumors kpilot in edgy is broken.. hang on, i'll check.12:24
mrobbertReally?12:24
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alyssais there a reason why everything in Adept is grayed out?12:24
alyssait's f'n killing me12:24
mrobbertIt does sync, I'm just not seeing the todo's and appointments on the Palm.12:25
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mrobbertalyssa: Can you do an apt-get update from the command line without any errors? (Need to run as root or with sudo)12:26
alyssachecking12:27
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alyssamrobbert: yes, that seems to work12:28
knappIs it possible to make just one panel transparent?12:28
alyssaso why not via the GUI12:28
alyssa?12:28
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mrobbertalyssa: So you see all the packages, but you can't select them for install?12:29
alyssaright12:29
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alyssaI should try now...maybe the not having the package list was what was causing the problem?12:30
alyssa...of course it will take a bit since I did apt-get firefox and a bunch of other crap12:30
foxhound31need help with apt but i wait till after alyssa12:30
alyssalol, might as well go ahead and ask ;-)12:31
foxhound31put a duff url in as a repository now it wont start12:31
foxhound31thank you alyssa12:31
foxhound31:)12:31
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foxhound31very kind of you12:31
mrobbertfoxhound31: What exactly won't start? Where did you put in the bad URL?12:32
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foxhound31wait12:32
foxhound31sorry12:32
foxhound31adept wont start12:32
foxhound31i put the url in at the top where you give links for repositorys12:33
foxhound31i add link12:33
foxhound31ie add link12:33
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foxhound31its not idiot proof is it12:33
foxhound31not much error trapping12:33
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KUBEuntuhey guys can I have a little help12:34
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mrobbertfoxhound31: I don't see a place to add a repository in adept. The only text input is a search bar12:34
foxhound31its the next screen12:34
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foxhound31wait i'll find it in google images12:34
KUBEuntuit's 'bout Kubuntu 6.10 and some dual-view experiments and problems12:35
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foxhound31no cant12:36
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mrobbertKUBEuntu: Do you mean multiple monitors? It has been awhile since I've had multiple monitors to play with and when I did I never got it working.12:36
alyssamrobbert: that was it.  Apparently something wasn't working but running apt manually has the adept GUI working now12:36
alyssathx for your help ;-)12:36
_yyoman_browsing the samba network ask me to login into the workgroup, which always fails, but connecting samba to shares works, any quick answers? :)12:37
mrobbertfoxhound31: Sorry for being a little clueless, I don't use adept all that much, but I don't see any second screen.12:38
foxhound31i cant remeber exactley which tab bringsit up12:38
foxhound31unfortunatley12:38
foxhound31try under adept12:38
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Admiral_Chicagovelle: yes, PM them to me, i'm going to dinner12:39
KUBEuntucan someone help with a problematic Kubuntu startup after a dual-monitor 'experiment'?12:39
foxhound31i can still install using apt though12:39
foxhound31if i knew how12:39
mrobbertfoxhound31: I only see "quit" under the adept menu12:39
foxhound31maybe differnet versions12:39
fdovingmrobbert: related to kpilot: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=39453412:40
foxhound31mrobbbert12:40
foxhound31in order for adept to work it has a list of repositories12:41
velleAdmiral_Chicago: what is pm...?12:41
foxhound31and there is a screen which shows the links to those repositories12:41
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foxhound31but i assume its in and ini file12:41
foxhound31so if i can just find the damn thing i can kill it12:41
foxhound31that might be my best plan12:42
knappIs it possible to make just one panel transparent?12:42
velleAdmiral_Chicago: I know all of them are not bugs, but I just keep them together12:42
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Cuddles_in_KYevening all.12:43
mrobbertfoxhound31: I assumed that adept worked off the sources.list along with some possible other files for organization and such, but I don't see anywhere to add repositories. If you added a repo then it should be in /etc/apt/sources.list. Is it there?12:43
foxhound31i'll have a look12:44
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mrobbertfdoving: Thanks for looking that up. I just switched to kpilot because gnome-pilot was crashing my device (A Sony clie)12:44
Cuddles_in_KYsmall problem here. i'm trying to add a printer to my system, but when i go to the backend selection in the add printer wizard, the option ''local printer'' is greyed out. any way to fix this?12:44
foxhound31what i get is the database is corupt12:45
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foxhound31as well12:45
fdovingmrobbert: if you don't experience the problem described in the bugreport it's not a problem. I just heard someone say 'data loss', and wanted to warn you.12:45
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bot12gbalgun espaol please?12:45
fdoving!es12:46
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:46
mrobbertfdoving: My problem is data loss on the Palm, but the data is still there in kpim. I'll have to read the whole report later.12:46
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mrobbertfoxhound: What do you do that gives you the database corupt error?12:46
fdovingmrobbert: ok,please do. I don't have a palm, so I can't test nor verify.12:46
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Cuddles_in_KYanyone?12:47
foxhound31mrobbert: your a star12:48
foxhound31found it and deleted just going to see if it start now12:48
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foxhound31yeah but need to run as sudo to change it grrr12:49
mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: Where are you in the system exactly?12:49
Cuddles_in_KYsystem settings - printers - add printer12:50
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Cuddles_in_KYbackend selection12:50
mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: OK, got it! Is your printer plugged in and turned on? How is it connected?12:52
Cuddles_in_KYplugged in, turned on, parallel.12:53
Cuddles_in_KYthere's already one other printer added, but it's a network printer.12:53
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azizevening12:54
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mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: I'm not an expert on this, but lets see if we can figure anything out12:56
mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: Are you running Edgy Kubuntu?12:56
Cuddles_in_KYyes mrobbert.12:57
azizhey, can someone help me out with mounting smb shares in fstab?12:57
mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: Try this command: lsmod | grep par12:57
mrobbertYou should see two lines: parport_pc and parport12:57
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Cuddles_in_KYnope, just 1. parport12:58
campbchdoes anyone know how to use dvdrip? i cant get it to transcode12:59
mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: Are you on a PC? (386,486, or Pentium)12:59
Cuddles_in_KYmrobbert, yes. p4.12:59
mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: OK, let try loading the other one with: sudo modprobe parport_pc01:00
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Cuddles_in_KYloaded.01:00
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mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: Try closing the print wizard and loading again. Any change?01:01
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Cuddles_in_KYyes, it's lit up now. ;]  thanks.01:01
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mrobbertCuddles_in_KY: Great, now I'm  just curios why it wasn't there to start with. If it doesn't come back after a reboot you'll probably want to come back and ask for some help with that.01:02
Cuddles_in_KYokies, thanks.01:03
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Cuddles_in_KYi usually don't reboot unless there's a major power failure though. ;] 01:03
foxhound31mrobbert: thank you01:03
foxhound31use a terminal and as root with vi i took out the bad line and it started again01:03
foxhound31so01:04
foxhound31if you get anyone who makes the same mistake01:04
foxhound31its fine the sources list01:04
foxhound31use a terminal as root and edit it out the bad line with a text editior01:04
jmichaelxhs anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get it to work in kubuntu edgy, though it workied fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.01:05
foxhound31find not fine01:05
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foxhound31anyway thanks for the help see you again01:05
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maryenhey guys01:08
maryengot a quick question01:08
maryenpoke?01:09
campbchdon't ask to ask, just ask :D01:09
maryenk01:09
campbchhere it comes...01:09
maryenis it healthy to routinely kill applications with the killall command01:09
campbchunhealthier, because they may or may not close themselves like they should01:10
campbchhow unhealthy really depends01:10
maryenhow would i tell said applications to close naturally?01:10
campbchit's like... unplugging your computer01:10
maryenin the command line01:11
campbchif they dont have a quit option, its probably not a problem01:11
maryenim writing a shell script01:11
Hawkwindkillall is routinely safe. It's kill -9 that you want to avoid01:11
campbchhmm...01:11
campbchalrighty what he said :D01:11
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maryenok01:11
campbch!killall01:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about killall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:11
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Hawkwindmaryen: Best to kill by pid# if at all possible though01:11
LegionI'm currently using windows but would like to start using Linux. I'm a little confused when it comes to the choice between Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Any suggestions?01:11
maryenim using a script to kill artsd so an OSS program can use my soundcard01:11
HawkwindLegion: Ubuntu is Gnome based, Kubuntu is KDE based01:12
campbchyou're asking in a kubuntu board, what are we going to tell you :p01:12
maryenthe script also starts the program so its sort of a frontend01:12
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hollywoodbLegion: from what I understand Windows users generally feel KDE to be more familiar, but Gnome also focuses on simplicity and useability... you can have both on an ubuntu system as well if you'd like to experiment some01:12
Ricardo_ColombiaHi01:12
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Ricardo_ColombiaCan somebody tell me where is gPhoto?01:13
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maryenbut regardless of what hollywoodb says, kubuntu is better01:13
Hawkwind!info gphoto01:13
ubotuPackage gphoto does not exist in any distro I know01:13
Legionso far my reasearch has lead me to this "Kubuntu looks better"01:13
Legionand that's about it :P01:13
fdoving!info gphoto201:13
ubotugphoto2: The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.0-3 (edgy), package size 182 kB, installed size 928 kB01:13
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maryenkubuntu is also far easier to customize, while gnome is simpler01:14
Hawkwindfdoving: Thanks.  Just found that via apt-cache search :)01:14
Ricardo_Colombiafdoving I have downloaded gPhoto but I don't know where is it in the menu???01:14
HawkwindRicardo_Colombia: How did you install it ?01:14
fdovingnite.01:14
Hawkwindfdoving: Sleep well01:15
maryennite sir doving01:15
fdovingRicardo_Colombia: hawkwind will help you if you're nice to him :)01:15
HawkwindHah01:15
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HawkwindBut you have to make the paypal donation *first* :)01:15
HawkwindRicardo_Colombia: Did you install it by doing sudo apt-get install gphoto2 ?01:15
Ricardo_ColombiaNo, I used Kynoptic01:16
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Legiondoes the choice of KDE opposed to Gnome have any influence on the programs I can use?01:16
hollywoodbLegion: none at all01:16
HawkwindRicardo_Colombia: You really should get it from the repos.  sudo apt-get install gphoto2  will install it and put it in the menus for you01:16
Ricardo_ColombiaHawkwind gPhoto is a command line software?01:17
LegionSo bottom line is pretty much that the choice is between simplicity and the ability to tweak EVERYTHING in the GUI?01:17
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HawkwindRicardo_Colombia: Yes it is01:18
HawkwindRicardo_Colombia: Are you wanting something that is GUI ?  If so, try digikam01:18
maryenhawkwind, do you happen to know of a cleaner way to kill the arts daemon01:18
maryen?01:18
Hawkwindmaryen: By using ps aux | grep arts and killing the PID#'s01:19
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koshwell my new install works just fine :)01:20
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LegionI think I've made my peace with which I am going to use. I've always been a great fan of making stuff look the way I want it. Kubuntu, here I come! Thanks to everybody who have answered my questions :)01:21
maryenok have fun legion01:21
Legionnow there's just the whole "Buy a new comp"-stuff to take care of hehe01:22
hollywoodbLegion: what have you got now?01:22
Legiona Packard Bell Easynote with a 2.4GHz P4 and 256 RAM01:23
hollywoodbLegion: that'll do fine ;)01:23
koshpretty low on memory for a p4 that fast01:23
koshadding more memory would really make the whole system faster01:24
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LegionIt's one I've borrowed after my old comp snuffed it01:24
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james_hello i have a question about fstab01:28
koshso what is the question?01:29
LegionI've fallen in love with this little beauty http://www.edbpriser.dk/Products/Listprices.asp?ID=203966 (The site is in Danish, but with the geeklevel in here, that shouldn't be too much of a problem)01:29
koshheh you should see what I just setup :)01:30
james_i already received help once from someone here so here goes the line in fstab for my dvd drive reads thus /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,uid=1000,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 001:30
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james_the problem was that because the data dvd was burned as root i could not access the files as user01:31
koshah I see01:31
koshso permissions where written to the dvd I guess01:31
koshso what is the problem now?01:31
james_so they suggested i add uid=1000 and this works for dvds but when i went to put in a regular cd when it mount i can't see files as user krusader loads them in root mode help please01:32
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koshhmm01:33
james_u c the diff right?01:33
james_is it a different file system is that why?01:34
os2machas anyone made any progress on getting a BCM4350 to work on kubuntu Edgy?01:34
hollywoodbos2mac: the bcm43xx module doesn't work?01:35
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koshjdfellow: I am thinking about why it would not work01:35
os2macnot on my machine.. I am getting the access point invalid error01:36
koshjdfellow: use setuid instead of uid and see if that works01:36
jdfellowi could try a different cd it show permissions for the cd as user:root but uid=1000 should fix it yes01:36
hollywoodbos2mac: oh, I see... I guess I'm not too familiar with it, I knew there was a bcm43xx module so I figured it worked ;)  have you checked out the forums on it?01:37
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Max_-how do I clear what is in the GRUB settings... cauze I tried to make it boot hd0,0 and it still try to boot hd0,1 ...  don't understand that.. any command to reset grub and start over?01:37
jdfellowwell uid works for the dvd so it works just not for the cd01:37
koshuid just changes the permission of the root of the device, setuid does it for all of the device01:37
hollywoodbMax_-: what file did you edit?01:37
koshtry it and it should work for both01:37
jdfellowok will do thanks01:37
Max_-hollywoodb used the grub command with the livecd01:38
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hollywoodbMax_-: so you're trying to edit the settings on an installed system or the livecd?01:38
Ricardo_Colombiahow to star digikam?01:38
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Max_-hollywoodb, a winxp cd cleared the mbr.. so I tried to make it work again.. but I guess I entered the wrong thing at first (hd0,1) now I need to modify it for hd0,001:40
Max_-so, yes its on an existing system01:40
hollywoodbMax_-: just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst on the installation... grub reads that everytime it loads01:40
sdlnxgkAfternoon All !!!01:40
jdfellownope that did not work any other suggestions from anyone else01:40
jdfellow????01:41
sdlnxgkanyone know if you can create an ISO with k3b??01:41
hollywoodbMax_-: assuming grub is reinstalled correctly01:41
Max_-hollywoodb, okay, I try this.. thanks01:41
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Jucato!grub01:42
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:42
Ricardo_ColombiaHow to install Digikam?01:42
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sdlnxgk!k3b01:43
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto01:43
dheerajtest01:43
hollywoodbJucato: that's the exact link I was looking for :P  I forgot about ubotu01:43
dheerajhi apt is not working wat to do?01:44
Jucatohollywoodb: :)01:44
Ricardo_Colombia!shell01:44
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:44
Ricardo_Colombia!windows01:44
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents01:44
Ricardo_Colombia!Microsoft01:44
sdlnxgkdheeraj what are the error messages??01:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:44
jmichaelxhas anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in kubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.01:44
Ricardo_Colombia!Firefox01:45
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins01:45
Jucato!botabuse | Ricardo_Colombia01:45
ubotuRicardo_Colombia: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:45
dheerajit is giving error command not found01:45
dheeraji typed this command apt-get update01:46
sdlnxgkwhere you logged in as root?01:46
jdfellowanyone game  for a quick question?01:46
dheerajyeah01:47
sdlnxgkjdfellow used to game till cedega had issues01:47
sdlnxgkdheeraj post the error message if not too  long here01:47
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jdfellowhow do i verify that my cdrom is set for the fastest read possible when i used to run knoppix on hard drive i had to manually configure optimal settings?01:48
sdlnxgkdheeraj something liket his ???01:48
sdlnxgkErr http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages01:48
sdlnxgk  404 Not Found01:48
sdlnxgkFetched 7B in 1s (4B/s)01:48
sdlnxgkFailed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packates/koffice-latest/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found01:48
sdlnxgkReading package lists... Done01:48
sdlnxgkE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.01:48
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jmichaelxpackates?01:49
jdfellowhello dheeraj you still here?01:49
dheerajno it is showing01:49
dheerajapt-get update01:49
dheerajReading package lists... Done01:49
dheerajbut no update01:49
Jucato!pastebin01:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:49
dheeraji just installed kubuntu01:49
sdlnxgkdheeraj that means it checked the package list and is done01:50
dheerajbut no update?01:50
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sdlnxgkfor  update you have to do apt-get upgrade or  apt-get  dist-upgrade01:50
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sdlnxgktry using Adept you might like it better  with a GUI front ;)01:50
BluDog_Anchoritepardon the interuption, but does anyone have a link to a how-to for a tftp server in ubuntu ?01:51
dheerajit is still showing no update01:51
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sdlnxgk!tftp01:51
ubotutftp: Trivial file transfer protocol client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-15 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB01:51
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BluDog_Anchoritei have the package installed.  i need config help01:52
os2machollywoodb I have been through all the trouble shooting and can see the AP in the wifi assistant but when I try to connect I get connection failed and if I look in iwconfig I get access point invalid.01:52
sdlnxgklet me see what I can find never installed  it so I not sure about it01:52
LegionThat's a pretty cool bot :)01:52
BluDog_Anchoritei did a regular ftp today01:52
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dheerajat last i fixed it01:54
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UnDeR|CoVeRhello everyone!01:55
dheerajthose update link was blocked by #01:55
dheerajon sources.list01:55
sdlnxgkBluDog_Anchorite try this * UnDeR|CoVeR_ is now known as UnDeR|CoVeR01:56
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sdlnxgk<UnDeR|CoVeR> hello everyone!01:56
sdlnxgk<dheeraj> those update link was blocked by #01:56
dheeraj <sdlnxgk>: thanx for ur support :)01:56
sdlnxgkopps what the hell was  that01:56
sdlnxgkdheeraj you get it all working?01:56
sdlnxgkhttp://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s04.html#dhcpd01:57
dheerajyeah :)01:57
sdlnxgkBluDog_Anchorite try that link01:57
sdlnxgkdheeraj your welcome ;)01:57
UnDeR|CoVeRok i need some help with my kubuntu01:57
UnDeR|CoVeR(new user here...)01:58
Legion!ipod01:58
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto01:58
sdlnxgkUnDeR|CoVeR what problem are you having?01:59
UnDeR|CoVeRwell i just installed ver6.06 of kubuntu01:59
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UnDeR|CoVeRand i saw some vids on xgl interfaces and want to do this02:00
hollywoodbos2mac: are you using kwifiassistant? I've heard that's it somewhat broken in edgy but don't know the specifics... can you get it working just using iwconfig?02:00
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UnDeR|CoVeRi have a nvidia vga card02:00
jdfellowhello anyone have any idea why my dvdrom drive seems to be reading slowly dma is set to one?02:00
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koshjdfellow: what drive is your dvdrom drive? ie /dev/whatever?02:01
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sdlnxgkUnDeR|CoVeR when you update your kubuntu should find nvidia card drivers automatic and update them atleast on my nvidia  card it did02:01
jdfellowi get an error with hdparm that says "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device "02:02
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UnDeR|CoVeRalso i have a problem with installing things.... i downloaded firefox-2.0.tar.gz and the adept program doesn't let me choose to instal it02:02
koshkubuntu did not find the drivers for my nvidia card, I had to go grab the latest beta drivers02:02
jdfellowotherwise the drive works fine02:02
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koshUnDeR|CoVeR: that is not how you install stuff, you don't need to download a .tar.gz at all, just use adept to install firefox02:02
_PauloS_Hi everibody02:02
jdfellowlarge files play slowly as they read off the drive02:03
UnDeR|CoVeRand how do i do that?02:03
UnDeR|CoVeRjust type it ?02:03
jdfellowkosh it is on /dev/cdrom02:03
koshjdfellow: can you put the output of hdarm -I /dev/cdrom  and hdparm /dev/cdrom in the paste bin?02:04
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sdlnxgkUnDeR|CoVeR yes just type it if it is in the repository then it will show up and you can install it02:04
koshUnDeR|CoVeR: just type firefox, it will find it and then you can tell it to install it02:04
seishinbyou2 questions: How do I make a Live disc, and is there any alternative source to get more 3rd party apps, since I'm trying to fill a whole disc as much as I can02:04
sdlnxgkfirefox should be default pretty much02:04
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_PauloS_after upgranding to Edgy, KDE stoped working02:04
jdfellowwhat is the paste bin scuse my ignorance02:04
UnDeR|CoVeRok it found it but it doesn't let me choose it02:05
koshhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:05
jdfellowIO_support   =  1 (32-bit)02:05
jdfellow unmaskirq    =  1 (on)02:05
jdfellow using_dma    =  1 (on)02:05
jdfellow keepsettings =  0 (off)02:05
jdfellow readonly     =  0 (off)02:05
jdfellow readahead    = 256 (on)02:05
jdfellow HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device02:05
sdlnxgkUnDeR|CoVeR I would use Adapt and run a full upgrade and see if that fixes  things for ya ;)02:05
koshUnDeR|CoVeR: you just click the little arrow next to firefox and it opens up, inside there is an option for request install02:05
UnDeR|CoVeRlet's hope02:05
koshUnDeR|CoVeR: then just have it apply changes02:05
koshjdfellow: don't paste it into the channel, that is why I have the url to the pastebin02:05
UnDeR|CoVeRsdlnxgk:  it has the firefox faded02:06
UnDeR|CoVeRnot with regular fonts02:06
UnDeR|CoVeRi can't tick the box next to it02:06
seishinbyouapt-get install --fix-missing ?02:06
_PauloS_after upgranding to Edgy, KDE stoped working, somebody knows how can I fix it?02:06
sdlnxgkUnDeR|CoVeR that is why I said  do the upgrade first it might need a file first..02:07
UnDeR|CoVeRsudo apt-get upgrade?02:07
jdfellowi am i bad http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32236/02:07
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seishinbyouAnyways, again, 2 questions: How do I make a Live disc?, and is there any alternative source to get more 3rd party apps, since I'm trying to fill a whole disc as much as I can?02:08
sdlnxgkhell even try apt-get install firefox02:08
koshjdfellow: paste the rusults of the other command in there also hdparm -I /dev/cdrom02:08
sdlnxgkand it will  tell you if your missing files02:08
koshseishinbyou: there are already live dvdroms that are full of stuff02:08
seishinbyouI'm talking Blu-ray02:08
sdlnxgkanyone use K3B to make  cd's???02:09
koshsorry I don't know02:09
koshyeah I use k3b to make cds and dvds02:09
UnDeR|CoVeRwell te apt-get doesn't work for this...02:09
_PauloS_k3b rulez02:09
sdlnxgkkosh what about  to make an ISO image  from files?02:09
UnDeR|CoVeR:902:09
jdfellowhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32237/02:09
sdlnxgkI don't seen an  option to make and ISO file02:10
seishinbyousdlnxgk: When you go to "burn" choose "Make Image file only"02:10
sdlnxgkI know how to burn and ISO image but I want to create an ISO image02:10
dheerajhow to run mp3 file in amarok?02:10
seishinbyousdlnxgk: That is how you make an ISO in k3b02:10
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sdlnxgkseishinbyou will go look for that option02:10
koshsdlnxgk: just have k3b make the iso for you like has been said02:10
seishinbyousdlnxgk: I'll boot it up and check where it is02:11
sdlnxgkseishinbyou your the bomb dude !!!!! saw it before  but forgot where I saw that at ;)02:11
koshjdfellow: everything looks okay, could you run hdparm -tT /dev/cdrom  ?02:11
sdlnxgkISO is in the making :)02:11
sdlnxgkseishinbyou thanks  ;)02:12
dheerajhow to run mp3 file in amarok? any idea?02:12
seishinbyouNo problem02:12
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koshdheeraj: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs02:12
_PauloS_after upgranding to Edgy, KDE stoped working, somebody knows how can I fix it?02:13
_PauloS_If I start X in failsafe mode, and then start kwin and kicker, Its Ok...02:13
dheerajE: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate02:14
kosh_PauloS_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php  ready the Upgrading from 6.06 LTS02:14
jdfellowi must go in 5 min. appreciate any help thanks http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32238/02:14
koshdheeraj: ah multiverse is not enabled just a sec02:14
_PauloS_kosh: will check the URL, thanks02:15
campbchwhat's lightning have to do with help :p02:16
campbchspeaking of which, i broke scim again :'(02:16
campbchill figure it out02:16
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koshdheeraj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  that should have everything you need, make sure you read the part about enabling universe and multiverse02:18
dheerajthanx02:19
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dheerajis g++ available on kubuntu cd?02:25
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Jucatodheeraj: no. you have to install it via apt-get (build-essential)02:29
jdfellowthanks for looking kosh gotto go unless ... maybe its the cache size in mplayer thats slowing things down02:30
seishinbyouAh, dvd+rw-tools can handle blu-ray it seems.  I'll try a disc02:30
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fyrmedicGreetings02:40
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DadanDoankhi guys02:41
DadanDoanki've install kubuntu 6.10 everything looks ok, but my wireless card didn't work02:42
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DadanDoankanyone can help me?02:42
BonBonTheJonDadanDoank: you need to install drivers02:44
DadanDoankhow? sorry i'am newbie :)02:45
BonBonTheJonanyone know how to either change the size of the systemtray icons, or increase the size of the Mac OS-bar02:45
BonBonTheJon!wireless02:45
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:45
BonBonTheJonDadanDoank: you need to know the chipset02:46
DadanDoankwait i'll look at my wireless usb card02:47
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DadanDoanki use SMC EZ Connect 802.11g wireless USB 2.0 adapter02:48
BonBonTheJonDadanDoank: do you have the card plugged in02:49
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DadanDoankmodel: smc2862w-G, ic:4711A-WN4501G3, sory i'm not use card but usb wireless adapter02:50
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BonBonTheJonDadanDoank: yeah, is it plugged in02:50
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DadanDoankyup02:51
fyrmedicanyone know of a good link with detailed instructions on setting up a network server/router/gateway with Kubuntu?02:51
BonBonTheJonDadanDoank: ok, open Konsole and run lsusb02:51
DadanDoank!router02:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:51
BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: is the kubuntu going to be the router?02:52
BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: for the server google for "ubuntu dapper isp", they have a good page02:52
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fyrmedicBonBonThejon: yes, it will be the router, the gateway, firewall, proxy. the works02:53
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BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: my suggestion is to not install any GUI, just use Ubuntu server02:53
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BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: that will help with Apache, PHP, MySQL02:53
wasp_emshello i am trying to send files from kubuntu to xubuntu through kopete but it does not work..the process stays at 0% anyone can help?02:54
BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: the Ubuntu ISP page tells how to set up spme other server stuff02:54
Zaireanyone heard of a cox.net isp?02:54
fyrmedicOk thanx I will google the hell out of it.02:55
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BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: it should be one of the first pages, its like howto forge02:55
BonBonTheJonwasp_ems: why not use samba or nfs02:55
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BonBonTheJonDadanDoank: did you run lsusb02:57
DadanLieurwait02:57
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Zaireis there anyway to change the vsftpd port ?....ppl keep trying to brute force my ftp and its taking up megs of logs space02:57
sdlnxgk!CHECKSUM02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about CHECKSUM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
sdlnxgk!chksum02:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about chksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:58
BonBonTheJonZaire: probably in the config file, or I have it so only specific users (except root) can log in02:58
Zairesame here but ppl keep trying02:58
sdlnxgkdammit forgot how to check cd ISO02:58
DadanLieurBonBonTheJon i've run lsusb02:59
BonBonTheJonsdlnxgk: if you have a lot of things to ask ubotu, then PM it02:59
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: are you DadanDoank02:59
DadanLieurit's show something like Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1260:ee2203:00
DadanLieuryup03:00
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BonBonTheJonZaire: set up a firewall to block the addresses bruteforcing03:00
sdlnxgkBonBonTheJon nope only forgot how to use something but i'll figure it out ;)03:00
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: is that the only entry03:00
DadanLieuri'm online with my laptop and my desktop03:00
Zaireit would be easier to change the default to something else so they have nothing to pickup on03:00
BonBonTheJonsdlnxgk: ok, just didn't want too much spam03:00
BonBonTheJonZaire: yeah03:01
DadanLieurno, but the other output is just 000000003:01
sdlnxgkBonBonTheJon sorry about  that wasn't sure of spelling03:01
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: can you pastebin the result03:01
BonBonTheJon!pastebin > DadanLieur03:02
BonBonTheJonsdlnxgk: its all good :)03:02
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DadanLieurBonBonTheJon wait03:04
bonggnuhi, i cant play mp3 in amarok dapper for amd6403:04
BonBonTheJonbonggnu: amarok should ask to install mp3 support03:04
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bonggnuin the instalation?03:04
BonBonTheJonbonggnu: no, when you run it and try to play an mp303:04
bonggnuuhm03:05
bonggnuThe void-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files03:05
bonggnuxine engine03:05
BonBonTheJonbonggnu: change to xine, and it should ask03:05
bonggnui am using xine, is the only one choice available03:05
BonBonTheJonbonggnu: ok, xine needs libxine-extracodecs, i think03:05
bonggnuok03:05
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BonBonTheJonbonggnu: you will need universe or multiverse enabled03:06
bonggnuthe system says tha libxine-extracodecs is installed03:06
BonBonTheJonbonggnu: try restarting amarok03:06
bonggnuok i will doing now03:06
Zairetheres nothing I can see in the vsftpd.conf for changing the default port03:06
BonBonTheJonZaire: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html03:08
BonBonTheJonZaire: I'm guessing it defaults to 22, unless you change it, so that is why there is no entry03:09
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DadanLieurBonBonTheJon i've do pastebin03:11
DadanLieurwhat next03:11
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: link?03:11
DadanLieurhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32245/plain/03:12
Zairessh is 22 ftp is 2103:13
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BonBonTheJonZaire: my bad, I use ssh more than ftp03:13
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: thats all there was, no more text?03:13
DadanLieuryup03:13
DadanLieurno more03:13
DadanLieuris that something wrong03:14
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: I was hoping it would give more info03:14
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BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: if you try lspci, it gives more info, I though lsusb would too03:14
DadanLieur:)03:15
DadanLieurwhat should i do03:15
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BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: hold on, I'm looking up something03:15
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DadanLieurwhen i klik KInfoCenter in usb section, my wireless usb detect as 802.11g wireless usb adapter03:17
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: does it mention atheros or broadcom?03:17
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DadanLieurno03:18
DadanLieurit's SMC03:18
beefsprocketanyone know what thisapache2 error is caused by? could not bind to address [::] :44303:19
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: see, SMC is the manufacturer, we need to know who made the chipset so we can install drivers03:19
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DadanLieurmodel: smc2862w-G, ic:4711A-WN4501G303:20
BonBonTheJonbeefsprocket: port 443 is SSL, do you have it set up right03:20
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beefsprockethttp://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=SMC03:20
beefsprocketBonBonTheJon: apparently not03:21
BonBonTheJonbeefsprocket: sorry, I dont use HTTPS/SSL much03:21
beefsprocketfollowed the wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/server/apache2/SSL03:21
SperMiteAnyone have a working smb.conf file i could bum? can't get mine to work03:21
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JuJuBeeHow  do I add the "Home" button (The House) to my task bar?03:22
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: do you mean the system menu03:23
DadanLieuroh no, my card is unsuported03:23
DadanLieur:(03:23
BonBonTheJonSperMite: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-6.html03:23
beefsprocketDadanLieur: might work with ndiswrapper03:24
DadanLieurBonBonTheJon my card is atheros03:24
JuJuBeeI mean the pannel at the bottom of the screen on the desktop03:24
DadanLieurbeefsprocket how03:24
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unix_infidelSperMite: you need what resources access?03:24
DadanLieurndiswrapper: command not found03:24
DadanLieur:D03:25
BonBonTheJon!ndiswrapper03:25
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:25
beefsprocketDadanLieur: not sure,never used it, but ndiswrapper will let you use windows binary drivers in linux I think03:25
SperMiteI just need to be able to log onto my linux box from windows03:25
JuJuBeeBonBonTheJon : next to the K menu...03:25
BonBonTheJonSperMite: try swat03:25
beefsprocketSperMite: putty or cygwin then if you don't need samba03:25
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: I think you are refering to the system menu03:26
JuJuBeeNot sure, in windows its called the quick launch bar.  Put commonly used icons there to launch programs.  When I installed kubutu before, it was there by default.03:27
JuJuBeeNow its not.03:27
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper03:27
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: are you just wanting quick launch links03:27
unix_infidelSperMite: that's super ambiguous dude.03:28
JuJuBeeyes I hate launching Konqueror to get to my home dir03:28
unix_infidelSperMite: what resources do you need access to, a remote desktop, disks, printers, VPN type access?03:28
knapphey chaps, anyone know of a program that will let me edit WMA tags?03:28
SperMiteunix_infidel disk03:29
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unix_infidelSperMite: how big are these files?  I've found scp to be a MUCH better solution for on the spot infrequent transfers.03:29
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BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: you use konqueror to do file browsing03:30
JuJuBeeIs that a ?03:30
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: no, its a fact, konqueror is a file browser and a web browser03:30
SperMiteunix_infidel each files between, 700mb to 4gb the only purpose i have for wanting to use samba is to save disk space on my windows drive is because its limited03:31
JuJuBeeI am aware of that.  I want a quick link to my home dir.03:31
unix_infidelSperMite: then try using smb4k03:31
JuJuBeeI am interested in knowing how to put the "cute little house" back in the pannel03:31
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: looks like you just need to create a link with "konqueror ~" as the program03:32
unix_infidelSperMite: its a gui front end to samba, makes management a bit easier, if you feel like learning more, setting up samba properly is the best way, tldp has some really good docs on it.03:32
JuJuBeeIt used to be next to "Show Desktop"03:32
unix_infidelzbrown's website also has some insight on it.03:32
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BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: if you right click on the panel, and add the system menu applet, it allows quick access to the home dir03:32
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JuJuBeeI see, its an applet.03:33
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: is that what you wanted03:34
JuJuBeeAnd there is the cute little house.03:34
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: :)03:34
JuJuBeeThat house used to be in the pannel.  all by itself.03:34
BonBonTheJonanyone know how to increase the size of the Mac OS-style panel?03:35
JuJuBeeHow  does one get just Home Folder rather than system  men?03:35
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SperMiteunix_infidel, another thing was i wanted to beable to logon my linux box from windows, I tried winscp, but i don't really wanna do any transfering. to be honest. I have a younger brother that wants to be able to steam my dvdrips on to his computer while im home from college.03:36
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: if you right click on the panel, add application, non-KDE, have the program be "konqueror ~"03:36
BonBonTheJonSperMite: try looking into swat, it can configure samba03:36
BonBonTheJonDadanLieur: did you figure out ndiswrapper?03:37
SperMiteBonBonTheJon ,  does it have a gui?03:37
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BonBonTheJonSperMite: yeah, its a web based frontend03:37
feindbildhi =)03:37
SperMiteok03:37
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BonBonTheJonhi feindbild03:37
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itknighthi all03:38
BonBonTheJonhi itknight03:39
itknighthas anyone tried the openkiosk03:39
JuJuBeeYeaaaaa ! Thanks BonBonTheJon  :)03:39
feindbildI've just downloaded the kubuntu 6.10 DVD image and I cant find any real boot floppy image on it =( ... is that available somewhere?03:39
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: cool03:39
itknighthi bobon03:39
itknightbonbon03:39
itknightI am using the make command03:40
itknightby I dont know how to use it03:40
itknightany idea03:40
BonBonTheJonfeindbild: if you have DVD, why are you still using floppy03:40
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JuJuBeeI bit the bullet and wiped windows a few months ago and am finally getting over the Newbie frustrations and have become inquisitive about the inner workings of linux.  I really dig ubuntu.  Much better than  other distros IMHO.03:40
itknightok03:41
itknightthat is god03:41
itknightgood03:41
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BonBonTheJonitknight: what are you trying to do03:41
BonBonTheJon!enter | itknight03:41
ubotuitknight: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:41
itknighti am installing03:41
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: people are here if you need help03:42
itknightopenkiosk03:42
BonBonTheJonitknight: what is that03:42
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JuJuBeeI see that and am greatful.  thanks to everyone...03:42
feindbildBonBonTheJon: because I can't boot from DVD =P03:42
itknighthttp://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/index.html03:42
itknightthat is the site03:42
itknightif you take a look03:43
itknightat the client documentation03:43
BonBonTheJonfeindbild: are you sure the ISO was good?03:43
itknightyou get to see what I am talking bout03:43
BonBonTheJonitknight: i'm trying to open it, but konqueror is really slow, hold on03:43
itknightok03:44
itknighthave you tried opera03:44
itknightI use that instead03:44
itknightridiculous fast03:44
BonBonTheJonno, I had been using firefox, but I wanted something more integrated with KDE03:44
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feindbildBonBonTheJon: its not the ISO .... The CDROM hangs on an extra IDE controller and thus I can't boot from DVD .... not even with sbmgr ...03:44
scorp007what package do i need to get manpages for C ?03:44
itknightok03:45
scorp007as in, the C standard library03:45
itknightbonbonthejon03:45
itknightthe problem is03:45
BonBonTheJonfeindbild: can you switch the cdrom and the hdd03:45
BonBonTheJon!enter | itknight03:45
ubotuitknight: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:45
itknightwhat03:45
BonBonTheJonscorp007: I would like to know, once you find out03:45
itknight!enter03:46
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.03:46
JuJuBeebonbon : what are you talking about with the enter key?  I dont see  any spam...03:46
scorp007BonBonTheJon: heh, i used to have em on Suse, now i lost em03:46
itknightok03:46
BonBonTheJonitknight: basically, try to put as much stuff together in a line, don't hit enter so often03:46
itknightok no problem03:46
scorp007BonBonTheJon: manpages-dev03:47
JuJuBeeOh, I see what you mean.03:47
BonBonTheJonscorp007: thanks03:47
BonBonTheJonitknight: ok, openkiosk website is up, and I'm looking at documentation03:48
itknightok03:48
feindbildBonBonTheJon: No. haven't got long enough IDE cable .... is there really no bootfloppy?03:48
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BonBonTheJonfeindbild: sorry, I dont know, never had that problem. are you really out of IDE and needed an extra card?03:49
BonBonTheJonitknight: where am I looking?03:49
feindbildBonBonTheJon: I only have one IDE channel onboard ...  and  more than enough IDE harddrives ... so yes ...03:51
BonBonTheJonfeindbild: gesh, only one channel03:51
feindbilds/channel/port/03:51
itknightok03:51
itknightthe client documentation for kde03:51
BonBonTheJonfeindbild: yeah, sorry, I don't know about the floppy boot, you can probably use any linux floppy boot disk03:52
itknighthttp://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/docs/kclient/index.html03:52
BonBonTheJonitknight: what is this kiosk for?03:52
itknightit is to setup as an internet cafe03:53
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itknightI am trying to make this work03:53
itknightand see if it can be done03:53
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BonBonTheJonitknight: you need to make sure you have the dependencies met03:54
itknightok i do03:55
itknightnow what03:55
itknightI have qt303:55
itknightand kde 3 or above03:55
albertohola para conectar al hispano?03:55
BonBonTheJonitknight: do you have the devel packages03:55
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itknightfor kde03:56
itknight???03:56
BonBonTheJonitknight: yeah03:56
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BonBonTheJonitknight: did you read the README03:57
BonBonTheJonitknight: to install software like this, you need to run "./configure" then "./make", then "./make install"03:57
BonBonTheJonitknight: I have to go for a while, when I get back if you have more questions I can help03:57
JuJuBee!sp03:58
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB03:58
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itknightok03:58
JuJuBeeoops, sorry. was trying to tell alberto about spanish channel.03:58
BonBonTheJon!es | alberto03:58
ubotualberto: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:58
JuJuBeeAh, thanks.03:59
BonBonTheJonJuJuBee: :)03:59
BonBonTheJonitknight: try following the README03:59
JuJuBeeWhere does one learn these bot commands?03:59
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Jucato!bot03:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:59
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itknightok03:59
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alyssawhere's the setting that tells KDE not to reopen all the windows on reboot?04:00
alyssaright no it is remember what I had open when I last shutdown04:00
alyssa...and it's driving me absolutely nuts04:01
alyssaI can't seem to find it in the "system settings"04:01
Jucatoalyssa: Dapper or Edgy? look for Session Manager (in Edgy, it's in the Advanced section)04:01
alyssaEdgy04:02
alyssalooking04:02
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JuJuBeenight all...04:02
BonBonTheJonnight JuJuBee04:02
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alyssaJucato: right you are!  thx04:02
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PsiKloPxHow do I resolve a NO_PUBKEY error when running apt-get update?04:05
itknightmaybe take a look at the gpg keys in the kubuntu website and add it to the repositories04:07
BluesKajis there a konsole command to get rid of duplicate repos in the sources list ?04:08
BluesKajI have several and I'm too lazy to edit04:09
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T3hWiz0rd!beryl04:11
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl04:11
T3hWiz0rd!xgl04:11
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:11
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Daskreechnikkiana: Hi04:24
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Admiral_Chicagohmm our channel is quiet...04:33
Admiral_Chicagotoo quiet04:33
DaskreechMan DoesKubuntu have any problems?04:33
DaskreechHa ha we both were thinking the same thing04:33
Admiral_ChicagoDaskreech: no it's perfect04:33
DaskreechRight04:33
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Daskreechbut in general LInux questions04:33
Admiral_Chicagolike what?04:34
DaskreechWhat's the practical limit on thenumber of files you can have ina folder before ext* throws up?04:34
Admiral_Chicagoi have no idea04:35
Admiral_Chicagonumber before NTFS throws up? 004:36
bLaZeD!conky04:36
ubotuconky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB04:36
Daskreech4 million Ithink04:36
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Admiral_Chicagoarg i need to get off IRC to do my presentation04:41
DaskreechBye :-)04:41
DaskreechLook04:42
Daskreechomgponieslolz04:42
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specialbuddycan anyone help me out with mounting a portable harddrive to certain location everytime04:44
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wordHm...would partitioning out /home /boot and maybe /usr would that increase...anything?04:46
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DadanHappy:)04:48
DadanHappyndiswrapper is work04:48
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DadanHappyhow to play mp3 in kubuntu04:49
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BluesKajamarok, DadanHappy04:50
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wordyah, amarok is the best imo04:50
osirissdlnxgk, was it you who gave the link to BluDog_Anchorite earlier regarding tftp ?04:50
BluesKajI like it04:51
DadanHappyhow to play mp3 in kubuntu04:51
osiris!restricted formats > DadanHappy04:51
BluesKajamarok, DadanHappy04:51
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tapaswhat's the best place for env vars that should be used in my whole kde session?04:52
Dr_willisbash_profile normally04:53
tapasthat's only for bash04:53
Dr_williserr .bash_profile :)04:53
tapasi need it set globally04:53
Dr_willisthey get set/read when logged in.04:53
Dr_willisor so i recall.04:53
tapasvia kdm?04:53
Dr_willisI think so.04:53
Dr_willistry it and see04:53
BDDFtapas : .kde/env I think04:53
BDDFanything in there gets run on start04:53
Dr_willisIt may be i see it working that way since i use 'startx' normally04:54
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tapasDr_willis: probably04:54
BDDFI think that's the dir ... ~/.kde/env04:54
tapasBDDF: do ihave to do the export thing in there?04:54
Dr_willisBut i seem to recall seeing JAVA classpaths and other things set there for all the X apps.04:54
BDDFone sec ... let me check another machine04:54
tapasDr_willis: yah you got them set in you bash04:55
tapasfrom which you start x04:55
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tapasso x and all children inherit that env04:55
Dr_willisI seem to recall doing it withn using KDM also.. could go ask in #kde :)04:55
Dr_willisI think ive set my path that X defaults to in the .bash_profile befor.04:55
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Dr_willisnot even sure how to test this. heh..04:56
Dr_williscould see what a minimal window manager does.04:56
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Dr_willisI got some quirk with kdm/gdm that makes them hang for about 2 min befor they even give me a login: screen.04:57
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tapasBDDF: and i suppose it needs to be executable?04:57
Dr_williswhat sort of setting are you trying to set anyway?04:58
BDDFtapas :04:58
tapasexport XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=104:58
BDDFwrite a sheel script that has all of your EXPORT=04:58
BDDFand drop it in ~/kde/Autostart04:59
tapas[a flash plugin fix for edgy] 04:59
tapasBDDF: hmmm you think that'll work?04:59
BDDFI have a scrip that shuts off my touchpad with synclient like that04:59
BDDFthat's what I did04:59
tapasohwell that's a process running05:00
tapasor do you mean via exporting some env var?05:00
tapasok, will try05:01
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Dr_willisstill - how that get exported to everything - since kde is allready starting up?05:01
zerozero_my sounds stopped working the other day, what can I do to troubleshoot it, i'm running dapper05:01
ironfroggyi have no idea on this one. my machine has been down for days and at the same time i was waiting for a replacement adapter for my laptop. no computer at all for days.05:01
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tapaszerozero_: cat /proc/asound/cards05:02
zerozero_k05:02
Dr_willisHmm.. gentoo wiki mentions -->  You can either add this line to the startup script for Mozilla/Firefox (/usr/bin/firefox), or export it globally by placing it in a new or existing file in /etc/env.d/05:02
ironfroggyanyway, my desktop locked up on a flash-heavy page (firefox, browsing on scifi.com), and when i hardbooted, it came back up with nothing but "L 99 99 99 99 ...". any ideas?05:02
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BDDFtapas : should work in ~/.kde/env as well05:03
zerozero_tapas: it looks like it found it, it came back with the name of my card05:03
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DadanHappydoes xfig support kubuntu05:03
tapaszerozero_: so your card is there05:03
zerozero_tapas: yes05:03
tapaszerozero_: the two most probable problems:05:04
tapasa]  mixer settings  [see alsamixer] 05:04
Dr_willisi wonder if /etc/enviroment would be a easier place to put it.05:04
ironfroggyi think its obviously a boot record or kernel issue, but what is that L 99 stuff from? any ideas?05:04
tapasb]  other programusing the sound card05:04
Dr_willisironfroggy,  sounds liek a LILO error code to me05:04
tapasDr_willis: i don't want to set it systemwide05:04
BDDFtapas : apparently anything in ~/.kde/env will be run on startup ...05:04
tapasthis is a question bugging me for some time05:04
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BDDFI don't know the difference between that and Autostart ... I believe the order05:04
tapasBDDF: ah that needs to be a direcytory?05:04
BDDFenv first, then Autostart?05:05
BDDFyes ... sorry ... I thought I mentioned that05:05
BDDF:S05:05
BDDFmy bad05:05
BDDFyes ... the ~/.kde/env directory05:05
tapas:)05:05
BDDFpeople use it for scripts to start ssh-agent for example05:06
ironfroggyDr_willis: thanks. ill google for lilo codes.05:06
Dr_willisironfroggy,  but ubuntu/kubuntu default to using grub..05:06
tapashrmpf05:07
knappWhere is the config file containing the passkey for bluetooth?05:08
zerozero_tapas: i think thats it, thanks05:08
ironfroggyDr_willis: well i simply could not use grub. it wouldnt work under default configurations, or under anything attempts i made when originally installing.05:10
Dr_willis       /usr/share/bluez-pin05:10
ironfroggyi suppose the upgrade then to edgy broke something?05:10
Dr_willisironfroggy,  possibially. no idea. I always do a clean install05:10
ironfroggyDr_willis: sounds painful05:10
knappDr_willis is that the answer to my question?05:11
Dr_willispainfull? rather trivial05:11
Dr_williskno thast where my bluetooth pin is at it seems05:11
BDDFtapas : jsut reading ... the diff seems to be that env is exactly for setting environment variables05:12
tapasBDDF: you got docs somewhere?05:12
knappits empty for me05:12
BDDFthings that do not need to set env vars, or require a window manager go in Autostart05:12
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BDDFwell ... googling05:12
BDDFit is empty to start ...05:13
BDDFKDE has it's own dirs as well05:13
Dr_willisI dont even see a .kde/env dir. :)05:13
Dr_willisthats even emptier then empty!05:13
tapassomehow the .kde/env way don't work for me05:13
BDDFyou create it05:13
BDDFDr_willis05:14
Dr_willisheh05:14
knappWhere is the config file containing the passkey for bluetooth?05:14
BDDFif it's not there ... nor harm05:14
Dr_willisknapp,  mine is in -->        /usr/share/bluez-pin  theres some command i think you can run to set it.05:14
BDDFtapas ... how big is your script?05:14
BDDFlike how many vars?05:15
tapastapas@banana:~$ cat .kde/env/env05:15
tapasexport XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=105:15
BDDFjust one?05:15
tapas:)05:15
Dr_willisHmm.. odd...05:15
Dr_willisoh wait - i never set up bluetooth on this box yet. :)05:15
Dr_willisthats the other machine..05:15
tapasmust it have .sh suffix?05:16
Dr_willis  i thought i had a /etc/bluetooth/pin   at one time05:16
tapasaag05:16
tapasaah05:16
BDDFyes05:17
BDDFtapas ... requires .sh05:17
tapasthat was it05:18
tapasthere should be a tab in th control center to edit that file05:18
BDDFtapas : take a look at the starkde script on your system05:18
tapasyah that's what i found too :)05:18
BDDFabout line 135 ... there's an explanation in the comments05:19
BDDFtapas : so it's working for you now?05:19
tapasyep05:20
tapasthanks05:20
BDDFcoo05:20
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tapasanyone here play bossa nova guitar>05:21
tapas?05:21
tapas:)05:21
DadanHappy!xgl05:21
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:21
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DadanHappy!flash05:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:25
DadanHappy!mov05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
DadanHappy!quicktime05:25
Jucato!botabuse05:25
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)05:25
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AWOSLappyMy Synaptics TouchPad has suddently stopped working after reboot.  I am using Dapper Drake 6.06.1 LTS with X.org 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.405:27
AWOSLappyAlso Ubuntu now hangs on bootup for a couple of minutes with the error '/sbin/modprobe': Unexpected exit (or something similar to that, I can't remember exactly -- too busy trying to fix mouse)05:27
AWOSLappyAlso I can't mount my NFS partitions; it comes up "mount to NFS server failed."05:27
DadanHappyi need blender to install in my kubuntu, but i can't found it in adept manager, is anyone can help me?05:30
AWOSLappyDadanHappy, launch Konsole (it should be in the K menu under System->Konsole)05:30
AWOSLappyDadanHappy, then type    "sudo apt-get install blender" (without quotes) on the prompt that comes up05:31
DadanHappywait05:31
DadanHappyE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:32
DadanHappyE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:32
DadanHappywhy?05:32
osirisdoing it as root ?05:32
AWOSLappydid you put sudo in front of it?05:32
AWOSLappyIs adept running right now?  You need to get out of adept, sorry about that.05:33
DadanHappyyup05:33
DadanHappyooo05:33
DadanHappyok05:33
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AWOSLappySo does anybody want to help me with any of my problems?05:33
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osirisAWOSLappy, the modprobe error could be what is causing mouse problems05:34
AWOSLappyosiris, I'm sorry I forgot to include this:05:34
osirisNFS, i know nothing about05:35
AWOSLappyInspecting dmesg, I found that the bcm43xx module05:35
osirisbroadcom wireless ?05:35
AWOSLappyyes05:35
osirisk05:35
AWOSLappycrap, how do you select text in Konsole without the mouse?!05:35
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koko1710hello05:42
koko1710anyone there to help?05:43
sgorilla78hi05:43
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Hawkwindkoko1710: Just ask your question05:43
koko1710anyone knows how to get flash plugin to work in firefox?05:43
sgorilla78yeah, it should automatically install05:43
Hawkwind!flash9 | koko171005:43
ubotukoko1710: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html05:43
sgorilla78you may want to install the beta version of flash905:43
sgorilla78seems to work better than the latest stable05:44
koko1710ok....05:44
koko1710try now05:44
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koko1710then how to install? it's in archive form05:44
Hawkwindkoko1710: Add the source and apt-get install it05:44
HawkwindOr download it manually and use dpkg05:45
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koko1710then where should i put the files? what files yo should put?05:46
HawkwindIt does all for you05:46
HawkwindJust install the .deb package and restart firefox05:46
koko1710ok....05:46
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koko1710what is dpkg anyway?05:47
Hawkwind!dpkg | koko171005:49
ubotukoko1710: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.05:49
koko1710hello?05:49
Dr_willisHmm.05:49
koko1710is it the "libflasplayer.so" file? then copy to plugins folder?05:51
koko1710hello?05:53
koko1710i need response05:53
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koko1710it crashes you know05:54
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Zaireanyone in here have any idea as to why image links would out of nowhere pile on top of eachother...mine did and I can't get them back the way they were...very frustrating05:56
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Erich-KI keep getting an error, cannot find oct/stream or something of the like, anyone know what it is?05:58
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Digital_PioneerWhat do I need to crosscompile for Windoze?05:59
sgorilla78 Decimal("20,72")06:00
sgorilla78is there some type of python library for working with international currency?06:00
sgorilla78oops wrong window06:01
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sevenhello u all06:14
seveni need some help with torrent clients06:14
seveni have tryed them all and non of them works they are all slow06:15
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seveni have tried the same torrent on windows (bitcomet) and it starts downloading with 30kb/s straight away while with ktorren on kubuntu with 0.3 kb/s06:17
sevenso i tried some other clients but i will not speed up my download06:17
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sevenso i guess its not the client it's the system it selfe that's slows everything down06:18
enyawixya i got full multimedia :)06:19
seven?06:19
sevenports are open everything normal but i still cant get some good download speed06:20
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enyawixmp3 mpeg movie etc06:20
seventhat's nice 4 u06:21
sevenbut it doesn't help me with my torrents right06:21
xiO___seven: sounds like it's a user error06:21
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sevenuser error?06:22
enyawixbrb06:23
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sevenxiO___: how can i solve this problem06:24
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_mattseven: what clients have you tried?06:25
sevenktorrent, bittornado, azureus, even amule all the same06:26
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_mattseven: and you've got port forwarding enabled on your firewall for the relevant ports?06:26
sevenyes06:26
_mattseven: are you running a firewall on your box?06:27
sevenno06:27
T3hWiz0rdwho runs firewalls besides windows nubs and grandmas? psh06:27
T3hWiz0rdI real linux zealot laughs in the face of danger and stabs the man with his LIGHT SABRE!06:27
T3hWiz0rd...and then returns to his mothers basement for chips and mountain dew.06:28
_mattseven:  what does the output of "sudo iptables -L" look like?06:29
sevenall open06:29
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_mattseven: I've noticed recently that increasing my upload limit improves performance - but don't max out your upload bandwidth, or you'll kill your download speed06:30
sevenok i will try that but i still don't understand06:31
_mattseven: have you set an upload limit?  If not, then maybe your upload is being maxed out, which'll kill your download06:32
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seveni had it on 2006:32
sevennow its on 8006:33
_mattseven: what's your max upload speed?06:33
sevenmax up 80 kb/s06:34
_mattseven: does b=bits or bytes?  b usually means bits and ktorrent and azureus measure max upload in bytes.  80 kb ~= 8kB, and if you've got your max upload set to 20 or 80 kB, then that's why you're getting shitty download speeds.  Drop it to 5, and see what happens.06:35
sevenok mom06:36
_mattseven: no ones forcing you dude ...06:37
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sevensorry mom moment06:37
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seven_matt: thank you that helped06:41
_mattseven: cool06:42
seventhey are still not super fast but getting better06:42
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Taterhey all I got my dlink dwl 650 + to at least load the firmware according to dmesg but I can't see any wireless networks any ideas?06:49
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seishinbyouIs there even 25GB of Kubuntu-related software out there?07:05
JucatoO_O07:05
Jucatoyou're kidding, right? :)07:06
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seishinbyouOh, I'm just thinking of what to include on the Live Blu-Ray07:07
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seishinbyouEven though I'll probably be the only one hosting anything so ridiculous07:07
Jucatoinclude everything07:07
Jucatoeverything in main, restricted, universe, and multiverse :P07:07
Jucatonot to  mention -security and -updates07:08
seishinbyouIt's all going on there07:08
Jucatothat's going to be more than enough I guess...07:08
Jucatohave fun! :)07:08
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seishinbyouWell, as much "fun" as burning a blu-ray is, I guess07:09
seishinbyou...and the fact a handful of people can even boot the thing07:09
seishinbyoulet along want to download it07:10
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rawrnessI wonder if blu-ray is even going to catch.07:10
seishinbyouHere in Japan, it has to a limited degree, but the discs are too expensive, still07:10
rawrnessI think dvd-dl disks are too expensive.07:11
seishinbyouThey are about 700 yen per, so they are coming down07:11
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rawrnessI need to fix this clock....>07:14
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cameronhey can i get some help installing my nvidia drivers in kubuntu07:16
Zaireeasy cli....sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then once thats done sudo nvidia-glx-config enable07:17
cameroni installed nvidia-glx but when i typed sudo nvidia-glx config enable i get an error07:17
Zairemight try sudo nvidia-xconfig then07:18
cameronunable to load kernal driver be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel07:18
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Ricardo_Ram#wikipedia-es07:19
Zairehmmm Ive never really had probs installing and enabling the nvidia driver07:19
Jucato(don't forget to have linux-restricted-modules installed)07:19
Zaireonly trouble I had with nvidia was the binary drivers from their site07:20
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cameronwait i got it07:20
cameronthanks for you help guys07:20
Zaireno probs07:20
ZaireI get the hang of things quick cause I format lots lol07:21
Zaireguess its the whole repetetive task thing07:21
Jucatoany suggestions for a program that converts docbook to pdf?07:22
Zaireone thing that never ceases to annoy me however is doing links for websites and getting the links in proper position07:23
rawrnessFormating your drives is a hobby07:23
ZaireI do mine atleast once a month lol07:24
rawrnessFormat clean install every few weeks07:24
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Zaireas for pdf stuff not a clue07:24
Jucato:)07:24
Zairei tend to stay away from pdf files lol07:24
rawrnessI hate adobe reader........07:24
rawrnessSo slow it was07:25
Zairememhog yeps lol07:25
rawrnessInfact when i reinstalled windows07:25
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rawrnessThat was the only program on the whole ocmputer07:25
JucatoI'm using KPDF. but I doubt there's a docbook reader for Symbian... :(07:25
Zaireyou guys happen to know a way to get mousover image links to line up verticle and not piled up lol07:26
Jucatooh nvm, KDE docs have PDF version...07:26
Jucatoaw.. not all of them :(07:26
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Zairemy links work fine just for whatever reason they don't want to line up verticle without piling up :S07:28
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Zairedunno why it is cause they were fine then I changed one thing unrelated to them and bango it broke07:31
e1merhow do i know what is my locale?07:32
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Zairegah even the vertical align css tag isn't working07:39
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nocloudi just updated to edgy, does anybody know how i can make the bottom menu bar look like the new style i see in the screenshots?07:40
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=== rawrness Plots a massive mctakeover
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vitalik08:09
Blackwhy the services are currently down ?08:10
Blackupdating ?08:10
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rohanwhat is the official way to update kubuntu dapper -> edgy ?08:12
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rawrnessi have heard so many horror storys08:14
rawrness........08:14
rohanrawrness: hehe, which is why i am asking08:14
rawrnessPersonaly i just used a clean install08:15
rohanproblem is, i have the desktop 6.10 iso downloaded - but my cd burner is not working08:15
rohanso i can't burn it08:15
rawrnessFun08:15
rohanand there is no way to boot a computer from an iso08:15
rawrnessIf you have a thumbdrive of 1 gb.08:15
rawrnessBut i am not to sure about it..........08:16
rohanrawrness: i have a thumb drive. but my computer is so old that i cannot boot from usb08:16
rawrnessMine just sucks :P08:17
rawrnessI would have to say though08:19
rohanthat ?08:19
rawrnessJust change all instances of dapper to edgy08:19
rawrnessand perhaps remove as many apps as possable08:19
Zairedapper to edgy doesn't usually end well08:20
Zaireand edgy is still kinda buggy anyway08:20
rohandamn, i wish the cd writer had not gone bust the day i downloaded the iso !08:20
rawrnessI didn't have any cds when i downloaded ths iso08:21
rohanZaire: yep, i am badly affected by this bug - http://launchpad.net/bugs/6355808:21
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rawrnessGood thing i found the dvd image :P08:21
rohanrawrness: so what did you do, then ?08:21
rawrnesswhen you have a whole spindel of dvds but no cd-rs08:22
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seishinbyouThat's the way it works, though.  Also, when was the last time you used a floppy drive?08:22
rawrnessisos don't like you much08:22
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hyper_chmy kde has a serious problem: whenever I try to start an app I get a message: KDEInit could not launch 'app' --> e.g. KDEInit could not launch 'Konsole'08:23
Zairecss an xhtml don't seem to like me today08:23
rohanhyper_ch: logout and back in08:24
rohanusually solves the problem for me08:24
hyper_chrohan: thx, I'll try that... but I assume you don't know either what causes that?08:24
rohanhyper_ch: no, i don't know what causes that08:24
hyper_chrohan: maybe I should setup my edgy again... been using it since the beta08:25
rawrnessVirus Alert delete imediatly before someone gets hurt :P08:25
rohanhyper_ch: no, its not an edgy problem. occurs to me on almost all kde distros, once in a while08:25
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hyper_chrohan: well, it's not only that... I also have problems to get my nvidia card to run properly :)08:26
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hyper_chrohan: well, I need a new comp anyway :)08:27
hyper_chrohan: can't run zattoo in wine hence I need vmware :( and on a single cpu it's soooooo slow08:28
rohanhyper_ch: i need a new comp too .. i am on a p3 550mhz with 256mb ram :P08:28
hyper_chrohan: mine is a bit better :)08:29
rohanhehe08:29
hyper_chrohan: how well does kubuntu run on that?08:29
rohanwell, i've never seen kde run on a fast pc, so i can't compare08:30
rohanbut it is EXCRUCIATINGLY slow08:30
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krautmoin08:30
rohani mean, after clicking in "view" on kopete, it takes a long to open the converstion video, and so on08:30
hyper_chrohan: maybe you can help me with another issue *g* a friend of mine got an old vaio notebook with a p2 366mhz and 64mb ram... what could you recommend to run on it? He wants to give it to his gf who mainly wants to do office and websurfing (for office OOo is mandatory as she will need M$ compatibility)08:31
rohanxubuntu08:32
rohanxfce is the 'lightest' of all DE's08:32
defryskxubuntu and alternative installer08:32
defrysk64mbram is tiny for a livecd08:33
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hyper_chand would prefork speed things up?08:33
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rohannot very08:33
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defryskthat would speed things up08:34
hyper_chcan you get ram for that machine?08:34
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defryskhyper_ch, ask around and fine out08:34
hyper_chdefrysk: thx :)08:34
hyper_chdefrysk: would be nice to install a nice, modern gui and demonstrate how quick everything is (with prefork) compared to the previous win9808:35
defryskhyper_ch, for old machines xtra ram is usually the best upgrade08:35
defryskhyper_ch, xfce = nice08:36
rawrness!media08:36
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs08:36
seishinbyouxfce is pretty good.  I use it as a VMWare machine from home when I need to do development work08:36
rawrness!codecs08:36
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:36
hyper_chdefrysk: I had xfce for some time on my machine :)08:36
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rawrnessthere we go08:36
defryskthere yu go08:36
hyper_chanyway, gotta go :) thx for the help :)08:36
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rawrnesshave fun08:36
rohang'bye, hyper_ch08:37
nikkianai've got a really random question that i'm wondering if anyone knows the answer to (not that i'm going to do this, i'm just wanting to know for arguement sake....) If someone really wanted to, is it possible in K/Ubuntu to make it so all the commands that you'd normally do as Ctrl+whatever (like copy.... Ctrl+C) are handled the way Mac OS X defaultly does it (little key with the apple on it+C)?08:37
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seishinbyouYou could remap the keyboard however you want (with some exceptions, I believe)08:41
seishinbyouI have the Windows menu key used as the backslash/underscore key since the key isn't picked up normally on a jp106 keyboard08:41
seishinbyou...and without it there is no way to enter an underscore character except cut&paste08:42
nikkianathat's what i figured, i just wanted some confirmation that it was possible ;)08:43
nikkianai'm having an arguement with a Mac enthusist that my insistance on Ctrl+whatever commands is a "bad habit" left over from using Windows and Linux.08:44
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seishinbyouHow about use the PC the way you want to use it and leave it at that?08:46
Jucato-_-08:46
nikkianaThat's what I say....08:47
Zairemac sux lol08:48
Jucatosteve jobs is t3h g0d08:48
Jucato:)08:48
houssemhello !!08:48
seishinbyouMac is okay; it is the fanbase that gets irksome08:48
Jucatoeverything have its own share of fanboys. even Ubuntu :)08:48
Zairemac hardware has always been crap..I mean seriously card based proc and single button mouse wth is that08:49
MezJucato=the uber fanboy ;)08:49
seishinbyouThe iPuck!  (I remember that)08:49
Jucatohahaha! hi Mez! :)08:49
nikkianaI recently bought a Mac because I wanted a laptop and was too lazy to buy a PC and install Kubuntu on it (I hate setting up synaptic, honestly) and I have all the usual complaints of a new Mac user, the weirdness of the one buttoned touchpad and the command (apple) key.... and whenever i complain, the fanboys scream.08:49
houssemis there in kubuntu a log file where all activities done on my system are logged ?08:49
Jucatohoussem: dig around in /var/log08:50
Zairesolution buy a PC laptop cause its not that hard to setup linux lol08:50
houssemJucato: waou !! there is 4452 log file !!!08:51
rawrnessApple lappys are sexy beasts08:51
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nikkianaZaire: sadly, i needed something i could natively run photoshop in because the gimp and i don't get along. that was another reason i went with Mac... i refused to go back to Windows....08:51
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rawrnessYou could always try to vmware windows08:51
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Jucatohoussem: just look for the one that you need. for example, Xorg.0.log has the logs for X server, dpkg.log has the logs for apps  you install/remove, etc08:52
seishinbyouIf only Photoshop CS2 ran in Wine... or at least I could get it to work08:52
seishinbyourawrness has a point08:52
rawrnessYou just need a good bit of ram08:52
nikkianayes, but i don't own a copy of windows.08:52
Zairewinblows sux08:53
rawrnessvmware is real ram whore08:53
Zaireyes yes it is08:53
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Jucatoof course it is08:53
houssemJucato: my problem is that i have added "streamripper" to be lunched from crontab for a 3600second but it have only runed for 3minute!08:53
Jucatooh08:53
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noiesmohey all just upgrade dappper to edgy and having a problem with starting x the error is loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.km08:54
houssemJucato: !crontab08:54
seishinbyouwhat is your crontab?08:54
seishinbyoucrontab -l08:54
nikkianain the end, i'm not dissatistified with what i chose to do, but i am dissatisfied with Apple fanboys telling me that I'm not cool because I don't like using Command+C to copy because it hurts my hands because I'm used to Ctrl+C. It's not a "bad habit" i need to break. It's personal preference.08:54
Jucatohoussem: I meant that I don't use it08:54
nikkianabut anyway, i'll get off my soapbox and take it to my blog. ;)08:54
Zairevmware is designed for a computer thats purely meant as a server machine which would have mega ram in it08:54
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seishinbyounikkiana: You don't need to pay attention to them08:55
houssemJucato: ah ok08:55
rawrness1 Gb seems to work well from what i have heard.08:55
Zaireno mac fans are idiots usually who thrive on annoying ppl lol08:55
nikkianaseishinbyou: oh i know, but it makes for good family arguements ;)08:55
seishinbyouI run vmware, but I have 1.5GB or ram anyways08:55
Zaire1 gig rofl right08:55
Zairevmware requires alot more then 1 gig to right decent08:56
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seishinbyouIt runs pretty fine under the current setup for me.  Visual studio runs a bit slow...oh well, tough break08:56
seishinbyouBeats dual booting08:56
rawrnessdoppel managed to cast radio with 1 gig.08:56
rawrnessSounded fine08:56
seishinbyounikkiana: I had my share of arguments with a few Mac users08:56
seishinbyouMostly over Xserve08:56
seishinbyouand iMail08:57
seishinbyou(and the GUI, and how the pinstripes give me a headache)08:57
rawrnessI dislike apples themeing08:57
rawrnessSilver allday would hurt my eyes :P08:57
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seishinbyouAh, the brushed metal theme?08:59
houssemanyone have a probleme like me with www.google.com ???09:00
rawrnesswhy would you have a problem with good?09:00
rawrnessgoogle*09:00
houssemyes09:00
houssem504 Gateway timeout09:01
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_4strOyop09:02
rawrnesswhat was the command to get to kde's control panel09:03
JucatoAlt+F2, kcontrol ?09:03
rawrnessthat was it09:04
rawrnessIts been awhile09:04
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DadanHappyi need some software which have function like corel draw in kubuntu09:29
DadanHappywhat software should i use09:30
DadanHappy!corel09:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about corel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:30
Jucato!inkscapte09:31
Jucato!inkscape09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about inkscapte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more09:31
crazy_busTry inkscape, or xara xtreme09:31
DadanHappydid ubuntu support both09:32
crazy_busubuntu has both09:32
DadanHappykubuntu09:33
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crazy_busyes09:33
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crazy_busgo into Add/Remove programs and click on both unsupported and propriertary check boxes to get xara and inkscape09:34
DadanHappywhen i type xara in adept, the list is gone09:34
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crazy_bussorry, i meant to say xara is in universe or multiverse09:36
defrysk!info xara09:36
ubotuPackage xara does not exist in any distro I know09:36
defryskits not there09:36
crazy_bus go into Add/Remove programs and click on both unsupported and propriertary Xara will come up09:37
crazy_busat least it did for me :)09:37
defryskist xara-gtk09:37
defrysk!info xara-gtk09:37
ubotuxara-gtk: GTK utility for searching the Debian package database. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13 (edgy), package size 562 kB, installed size 1644 kB09:37
crazy_busit's xara-xtreme09:38
DadanHappyneed help, to clean adept cache09:38
defryskapt-cat clean09:38
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defryskapt-get clean even09:38
crazy_busI don't get xara-xtreme in adept.  But I installed it in add/remove programs09:38
defrysksudo apt-get clean09:38
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Jucato!xaralx09:40
ubotuxaralx: Heavyweight vector graphics, illustration and DTP Program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.7r1692-2 (edgy), package size 4573 kB, installed size 11776 kB09:40
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DadanHappydid kubuntu have another desktop themes, i've seen freespire k button change09:42
DadanHappyit's nice09:42
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seishinbyouYou can customize the theme as you please.  I'm not sure if the Freespire theme is available on its' own, but you could rip that from a Freespire install if you wanted09:47
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chuddDadanHappy: check out themes.kde.org for all sorts of cool stuff09:49
DadanHappy!desktop themes09:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about desktop themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:49
Jucato!theme09:49
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:49
seishinbyouYay, almost finishing time, and time for dinner09:50
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dorshin!backup09:52
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi09:52
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dorshinusing dapper and its a fresh install,in adept i can see that there is a kernel upgrade,i dont want to lose my conf of KDE and i have limited disk space09:57
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dorshinif i upgrade to a new kernel will i need too much disk space? and lose my confs of KDE?09:58
fdovingdorshin: kernel upgrades are safe. you will not loose your confs. doesn't the adept status line say anything about disk usage?09:59
DadanHappyis theme for kde 3.2 okay if i use in kde 3.5 isn't10:00
DadanHappy?10:00
defryskkernel = linux,  kde is dm10:00
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dorshinfdoving: i didnt request an upgrade  cos i wasnt sure10:02
dorshini have to back up my fresh install to a fat32 partition,then i will upgrade.10:03
LynoureWhat's the default kernel in edgy?10:04
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Lynoure(version number, I mean)10:04
DadanHappy2.6.1710:05
DadanHappytype uname -a10:05
LynoureI'm not on edgy10:05
LynoureSo me typing unamu -a would not have answered that.10:05
Lynoures/unamu/uname10:06
DadanHappymaharani@MahaRaja:~$ uname -a10:06
DadanHappyLinux MahaRaja 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux10:06
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LynoureSo, with luck Palm syncing would work on edgy...10:06
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LynoureBut otherwise it does not sound that yummy, but that might still make it worth for me. But of course I could make my own kernel, too. Choices...10:08
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dorshinwill it remove the old kernel after upgrade?if not how to assure that? do you recommend removing the old one?10:12
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fdovingdorshin: you can, but it's not done automatically. how much free space do you have?10:12
dorshinfdoving: 1 gig10:14
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ghostshadow189hi all , how can i change resolution in KDE ?10:15
Lynoureghostshadow189: didn't you already get the answer?10:16
defryskthought so yes10:16
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ghostshadow189yes , i didnt find monitor in system setting10:16
Lynoureghostshadow189: what defrysk told you works for many people, but I had a bug encounter with it in dapper (ended up losing all the other resolution options)10:17
ghostshadow189oh ? so i cant change ?10:17
Lynouretry display10:17
ghostshadow189i view control center10:18
ghostshadow189but there no display10:18
ghostshadow189or monitor10:18
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LynoureSystem settings > Hardware > Display10:18
defryskghostshadow189, why not upgrade to the latest kde ?10:19
ghostshadow189sure , i'm using KDE 3.510:20
Lynourehmmm10:20
ghostshadow189sorry but i didnt find hardware10:20
defryskwell what I said in ubuntu should work then10:20
dorshininstalled kernel is 2.6.15.22 candidate 2.6.15.25, too much difference?10:20
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Lynoureghostshadow189: so, you did go from K-menu to System Settings? What can you see there?10:21
defrysksystem settings and in computeradmin section monitor & display10:21
defryskis what I see10:22
fdovingdorshin: then you can safely install the upgrades. later you can open adept manager (kmenu -> system -> adept manager) Just below the 'Search:' field, you'll find 'Show:' uncheck 'not installed'  - now search for 'linux-image', now you can rightclick and request uninstall on the old kernels. Make sure you leave the one with the highest version number. As you need atleast one kernel.10:22
ghostshadow189start -> system -> disk , networking , users and groups , etc10:22
DadanHappycan i use kernel from kernel.org in edgy10:22
LynoureStart?10:23
ghostshadow189kde start menu :D10:23
defryskDadanHappy, you can but its not supported from here10:23
defryskDadanHappy, google for howto's10:23
dorshinfdoving: great help, now i know what to do.THANK YOU.10:23
Lynoureghostshadow189: you do not have System setting on the K-menu? It's not under System, just directly as System Settings (at least on dapper)10:24
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defryskotherwise try kconfig in your console10:24
ghostshadow189in settings -> system Administrator -> date and time , font installer , etc10:24
defryskkcontrol even10:25
defryskghostshadow189, open kcontrol10:25
ghostshadow189yes , kcontrol is control center10:25
ghostshadow189i'm using it10:26
defryskopen peripherals10:26
defryskand select monitor and display10:26
defryskfound it ?10:27
ghostshadow189there no monitor and display , just digital camera , joystick , keyboard , mouse etc10:27
defryskghostshadow189, something is missing there then10:27
ghostshadow189:(10:27
defryskghostshadow189, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:27
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ghostshadow189so how can i fix it ?10:27
ghostshadow189i installed kde-core10:28
defrysksee if components are missing10:28
Bubba_Gump:)10:28
ghostshadow189so maybe it's prob ?10:28
defryskdo what I said10:28
ghostshadow189ok10:28
ghostshadow189kubuntu-desktop :D10:28
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defryskWraf!!10:28
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defryskghostshadow189, seems to me like you miss some kde-admin parts or something10:29
ghostshadow189i'm install again kubuntu-desktop10:29
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ghostshadow189cus i installed kde-core10:30
defryskok10:30
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blackflagI dont have command history in my terminal. How can I enable it?10:41
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kdefryskblackflag, cat .bash_history10:51
kdefrysklater folks10:51
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Admiral_Chicagowow this channel is dead10:53
ehirdomg wow lollololololollllllllll!!12121210:53
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blackflagkdefrysk: I didnt have permission to it and I correct it, its working now. Tahnks!11:05
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Yaccini cant isntall kdesdk on edgy :(11:12
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raghello, how to record a iso on usb without use CD before?11:35
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rolandohola11:44
rolandohow can i check if i have 3d acceleration with kubuntu?11:45
rolandoi do glxgears but i dont see any fps11:45
Yaccinglxinfo11:45
Yaccin?11:45
rolandoglxinfo i get a lot of things11:45
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rolandobut not these fps11:46
Jucatoglxgears -printfps11:46
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rolandook thanx Jucato11:46
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JuJuBeeMorning all.  I  cannot load the User Management under system settings.  Tells me  "The module  User Management Could not be loaded".12:03
JuJuBeeAny help?12:03
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raghello *, how to record a iso on usb without use CD before? command...12:06
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The^MoleJuJuBee: Can you load it through kcontrol?12:10
JuJuBeeIll check12:10
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linopil!alsa12:10
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:10
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JuJuBeeno.12:10
The^MoleWhat happens there?12:11
JuJuBeeWhen I click on User Management, the right pane just shows ubuntu info... no user managemen12:11
JuJuBeeI have console errors...What is the pastebin url?12:11
The^MoleOh.12:11
The^Mole!paste12:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:11
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JuJuBeehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32301/12:12
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linopilwhat do I do to know currnet alsa ver ? sudo apt-cache query alsa12:13
linopil ? no then what instead ?12:13
The^MoleYou running edgy?12:13
JuJuBeeYes12:13
The^Molelinopil: just look in adept or synaptic12:14
JuJuBeeUpgraded  last week12:14
The^MoleHmm...12:14
The^MoleHas it worked since upgrading?12:14
JuJuBeeno12:14
linopilty The^Mole and command line ?12:14
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The^Molelinopil: not sure.12:15
linopilk ty12:15
The^Moletry apt --help or /?12:15
linopilgood ty12:15
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The^MoleJuJuBee: I'm not to sure... I'm not really technical enough to understand what that error message means :/12:17
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JuJuBeeI wonder if there is someting I should re-intsall?  I dont see User Management in synaptic.12:18
Zairewell I was right kubuntu just doesn't like to dual boot for me12:18
Zaireubuntu on the other hand just did12:19
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linopilZaire: should not matter that much kubuntu - ubuntu is a matter of windows manager - both linux both ubuntu and sharing /boot/grub/menu.lst12:21
The^MoleJuJuBee: Do all the other modules work?12:21
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B-Minusok12:22
ZaireI know it shouldn't but all of my attempts I made before I did the same thing I just did with ubuntu and they failed ubuntu succeeded without fraging my windows partition12:22
B-Minusso is it possible to run photoshop cd2 in linux12:22
JuJuBeeHavent checked all, but the ones I have used do...12:22
JucatoJuJuBee: try this command: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"12:22
linopilyou should have boot CD's handy for rescue situations12:23
Zairewhy I don't even try dual boot unless I just formatted anyway so rescue disk would be a waste of time12:23
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Zairedoesn't bother me that it frags it so much as the fact that Ive wanted dual boot and not been able to get it12:24
JuJuBeeJucato : then run user management?12:26
linopilthere is a problem in installs but I always correct it afterwards,  because each and every of many machines I installed is dual -booted12:26
JucatoJuJuBee: in System Settings? yes12:26
JuJuBeeK12:26
JuJuBeeThe Module User Management could not be loaded.12:26
Jucatohm...12:26
JuJuBeeTells me I have old third party modules lying around12:26
linopilgot to spot problem and fix it. zaire. first decide who will rule MBR .  Linux GRUB or M$ MBR - (boot.ini  b4 VISTA)12:27
JuJuBeeSometthing about last KDE upgrade leaving orphaned control module12:27
Zairevista and all windows suck I only use XP for gaming and photo editing second grub always goes to main mbr its just something I think with kubuntu that it doesn't like it when I try to dual boot12:28
Zaireeitherway it works now I just have to install kubuntu from cli12:29
ZaireI was actually reading reviews on vista and ppl reccomend XP over vista cause vista has more security vulnerabilities and holes then XP not to mention is slower for internet and basic office and home usage and requires more ram to run12:32
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Zaireoh yea and its not all from scratch they used huge chunks of code from XP and server 03 to make it the only thing they redid was the interface for access like control panel and screen properties12:34
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ubuntuhey people.12:35
ubuntuI'm running the kubuntu liveCD...12:35
ubuntuwondering if there's an easy way to install using it.12:35
crazy_bushello12:35
Bug2000lol, user named ubotu :P.12:35
Yaccinthere should be a shortcut on your desktop12:35
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Yaccinif not its in K-Menu > System > install12:35
Zairedamn apt wont grab kubuntu12:36
ubuntunone of the above on those.12:36
Healotdefault nick running liveCD huh12:36
ubuntu2.6.15-12-386 kernel; no clue what ver of kubuntu that would be.12:36
Yaccinubuntu: you downloaded it?12:37
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YaccinZaire: ?12:37
JuJuBeeJucato : just found another bug.  When I empty trash, the progress indicator stays at 0% (never moves), after a while, I close progress window and trash seems empty.12:37
Healotubuntu: ah, the icon install on the desktop? that's 2.6.15-12 then12:37
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Zaireit won't let me use apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop12:37
Yaccinwhy do you want to install that?12:37
Zairecause gnome sucks12:38
bronaughYaccin: my laptop's debian install decided to bite it tonight; I don't have my USB dongle to boot the laptop off the CD drive; and I had this handy 2x2GHz box sitting in a cardboard box...so I figured I'd give it a go, at worst make myself a netboot server.12:38
Yaccinbronaugh: where do you have the kubuntu-cd from?12:38
YaccinZaire: apt-get install kde12:38
bronaughnot a clue. I must have burned it a while ago.12:39
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ZaireI figured its working so far12:39
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Yaccinbronaugh: hmmm then its probably an older one...12:39
bronaughyeah; I gave the kernel version, if that's any help.12:40
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Yaccintry control+alt+F1 to see wich version you have and control+alt+F7 (?) to get back to your desktop12:40
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bronaughdoesn't say, oddly.12:40
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bronaughgood idea; but no cigar :/12:41
bronaughjust Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-12-38612:41
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Zaireso whats the diff between kde and kubuntu-desktop anyway...out of curiosity12:41
YaccinZaire: dont ask me :D12:41
Yaccinbronaugh: o.O12:41
Yaccinbronaugh: i would recommend downloading a new cd :D12:41
bronaughit very well may be some ancient beta.12:41
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Zaireyea like isn't that breezy lol12:42
bronaughyeah, I'd do that, if a) one of my CDs would detect the SATA disks in this comp, and b) if I could burn a CD while using the CD drive the CD burning software is being loaded from :P12:42
ZaireIm running kernel 2.6.15-26-38612:43
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bronaugh0000:00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-Port Controller12:43
bronaughsurprised there's no support in 2.6.15 for it.12:43
Zairelinux hasn't really given me a hard time with onboard stuff12:43
Yaccinbronaugh: that could be a problem :D12:44
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bronaughyeah; so you see the dilemma a bit more clearly now :P12:45
Zairewhat kind of board is that?12:46
bronaughA8V-MX12:46
Zairebrand?12:46
bronaughAsus.12:46
Zaireah12:46
bronaughbasically, it's an all-Via board with onboard video, AGP, and PCIe12:46
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ZaireIve heard good and bad things about them....mines a Gigabyte sAM212:46
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bronaughI had very little trouble getting an identical (literally) box to this going with an AMD64 CD.12:47
ehirdwhere do i go to pass a law forcing ISPs to say their speeds in bytes, not bits? it's 128 KB/sec, not 1 Mb/sec!12:47
bronaughnetworking is expressed in multiples of bits per second; deal.12:47
Zaireah amd 64 thats a tricky one12:48
bronaughnot so much; I've installed a few boxes by now.12:48
Zairesoftware limitations on 64 bit OS12:48
bronaugh*shrug* I don't care so much.12:48
Zaireanyway brb gonna switch to kde now12:48
ehirdi remember my humbler times, when i was just finding out about this internet thingy, and I was confused why I was getting 3 KB/sec instead of the "promised" 32 Kb/sec :P12:49
bronaughok... so it is an AHCI chipset. just doesn't have the PCI ID added for it, apparently.12:49
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GazzaKerm, quick question - is there a surefire way to replace konquerer with firefox, including being the default opener for xchat urls?12:51
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ehirdGazzaK: why would you want to do that?12:51
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Zaireand it worked nicely12:52
HealotGazzaK: set Firefox as default browser12:52
bronaughso apparently, 2.6.17 at least for this sata chipset.12:52
bronaughI installed kubunu 6.06 on the other machine; what kernel is that?12:53
bronaugh2.6.17 with patches?12:53
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ehirdis there something like kde-core but for xfce?12:53
ehirdxubuntu-desktop is huge12:53
Zairexubuntu is lightweight...I kinda like fluxbox better though12:54
bronaughok.. so here's where it gets kinky.12:54
Zairethe bedroom? lol12:54
bronaughcan I set up a DHCP server and tftp server to serve up a kernel to my laptop?12:54
bronaughon this kubuntu livecd12:54
fildohey how can i change system time thru bash12:54
ehirdit's lightweight but xubuntu-desktop is 100mb12:55
bronaughyeah.. I bet I can. muahahaha12:55
bronaughtftpd-hpa and dhcpd12:55
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bronaughdamn, CoW is sexy.12:55
GazzaKehird~ I want to do that as konq doesn't seem to support java and flash too well12:55
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Zairecow?12:56
ehirdGazzaK: get the flash 9 beta12:56
GazzaKHealot~ but last time I tried this, xchat still opened url links in konq12:56
bronaughCopy on Write12:56
ehirdxchat: its a preference12:56
ehirdit'll be the same with firefox too12:56
Zaireah12:56
ehirdflash is shared12:56
ehirdkonq is nicely intergrated12:56
ehirdnow... brb while i try fluxbox :D12:56
GazzaKokay, hopefully it is better since kubuntu 5.10 (last time I tried kubuntu)12:57
Zaireflux is decent12:58
bronaughI'll just bootstrap my laptop using kubuntu kernel.12:58
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bronaughkinda sick and twisted, but hey -- whatever gets the job done.12:58
ZaireI like flux better the way its setup on damn small linux12:58
bronaughI like ratpoison.12:58
ZaireIM more of a scotch guy myself lol12:59
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linopilwhat is /etc/rcS.d in ubuntu for ?12:59
bronaughsystem crap.01:00
bronaughstarts in all run levels.01:00
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linopil!isapnp01:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isapnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:02
bronaughhell01:02
bronaughthat is a short summary of isapnp01:02
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linopilany guru ? where do I put isapnp in boot scripts01:03
bronaughyou don't.01:03
bronaughyou buy hardware created in the last 8 years instead.01:03
linopilbronaugh: what ?01:03
bronaughit's seriously way, way, more pain than it is worth.01:03
linopilI know bronaugh, still you dont know me. If windows does it linux will too. get the idea?01:04
ilgattotrinoanyone is having problems with the last flash player ok konqueror(edgy)?01:04
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linopilalsa is documented but somewhat difficult to find the solution01:04
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Zairewell its 6 am I better get to bed01:05
bronaughso you have an isapnp sound card?01:05
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bronaughyou're aware that there's kernel support for isapnp now?01:05
Zairelaters01:05
bronaughand that -most- drivers that support ISA cards will consult the tables the kernel dredges up?01:05
bronaughlater Zaire01:05
linopilis  trol a succesful nick ?01:05
linopilbronaugh:  it worked01:06
linopilupdates make it dissappear01:06
linopilbad bad updates01:06
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linopilis  << Ctrl ALt -numpad + >>metacity feature (gnome) or also KDE to chg resolution ?01:08
bronaughit's an X feature01:08
linopilbronaugh: so it works on any window manager . ty01:09
sb9anyone who can help me ?01:09
bronaughyeah.01:10
kdefrysk!ask01:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:10
linopilmaybe sb901:10
sb9i want to modify the bash prompt of a foreign bash01:10
linopiljust to distinguish sb9 , right ?01:10
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sb9one moment01:11
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bronaughgotta say... kubuntu live CD useful.01:13
bronaugheven a broken old one.01:13
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linopilrestarting to switch from metacity to kde01:14
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killswitch92how do i get rid of the login screen on kubuntu when its installed?01:17
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AlYo, how do I stop KDE storing my session?01:20
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killswitch92how do i get rid of the login screen on kubuntu when its installed?01:22
kdefryskkillswitch92, systemsettings > advanced > login manager01:22
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killswitch92i went in there but i dont know what to do01:22
kdefryskkillswitch92,  got to adminmode01:22
kdefryskkillswitch92, select convenience01:22
killswitch92then what01:22
kdefryskthen tic enble autologin01:23
kdefryskand apply01:23
kdefryskdone01:23
sb9ok once more, iwant to modify an active bash from a foreign bash01:23
sb9is this possible01:23
sb9e.g. modifying prompt colour01:23
killswitch92omg thank u so much, i tried deleting my own account which didnt work and now i have to reinstall it =/01:23
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kdefryskAl, you also to systemsettings > advanced01:24
kdefryskAl, select session manager01:24
sb9maybe there is a config file which is read for every new line in the bash01:24
kdefryskAl, and tic on login > start with an empty session01:24
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sb9any clue anyone ?01:25
AlHm... my system settings has no "advanced"01:25
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kdefryskal on top you see overview general and advanced01:26
kdefryskklick the advanced tab01:26
kdefrysknext to the advanced tab you see a "search"01:26
AlNo tabs here...01:26
AlI have a search01:26
AlAnd a "show all" button, which is grey because this is that page01:26
kdefryskno advanced on the left from there ?01:27
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kdefryskAl, witch kde you on ?01:27
ehirdmy brb was extended :O01:27
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rhodrihi, how do i start an application using kde's launch feedback?  is there an easy way?  thanks.01:27
ehirdi'mcurrently playing lbreakout2 in fluxbox :p01:27
killswitch92i have a question01:27
kdefryskAl, otherwise open kcontrol01:28
kdefrysksame stuff different setup01:28
Al3.5.201:28
kdefryskopend kcontrol ?01:28
kdefryskopen kdecomponents01:28
kdefryskand then session manager and set it there to your desired setting01:29
killswitch92i deleted my account and cant login, is there a way to turn off the login without being able to login?01:29
kdefryskgeez01:30
AlFound it there, thanks.01:30
kdefryskkillswitch92, man useradd01:30
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bronaughok, fun begins.01:31
killswitch92useradd?01:31
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killswitch92im at a login screen right now, what do i do?01:32
Telroth_Plushie|can you reboot into recovery mode?01:32
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killswitch92i tried an it stays in like a command prompt01:33
Telroth_Plushie|good.01:33
Telroth_Plushie|do that.01:33
Telroth_Plushie|when it comes up01:33
Telroth_Plushie|adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home=/home/<olduser>/01:33
Telroth_Plushie|where <olduser> is the username you had before you deleted it01:34
Telroth_Plushie|errr01:34
Telroth_Plushie|adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/01:34
Telroth_Plushie|do you remember your user id?01:34
kdefrysksudo adduser01:35
Telroth_Plushie|kdefrysk, he can't log in.01:35
kdefryskyes but he needs to use sudo to run useradd01:35
Telroth_Plushie|nope01:35
kdefrysknope ?01:35
Telroth_Plushie|recovery console drops you at a root prompt01:35
kdefryskhe is root ?01:36
Telroth_Plushie|root doesn't need sudo01:36
octana smp system is more than 1 cpu right?01:36
kdefryskah of course sorry01:36
killswitch92so i type exactly adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/ ?01:36
kdefryskoctan, generic suopports also smp01:36
Telroth_Plushie|killswitch92,01:36
Telroth_Plushie|have you rebooted into the recovery console?01:36
killswitch92yea01:36
Telroth_Plushie|and how many users are on the system?01:36
octankdefrysk, that didnt anwser my question01:36
Telroth_Plushie|was it just you?01:36
octangeneric? you mean the kernel?01:37
killswitch92yea but i deleted my account =/01:37
Telroth_Plushie|ok01:37
octankdefrysk, so smp is more than 1 cpu?01:37
Telroth_Plushie|adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/ -uid 100001:37
killswitch92thats y i cant login01:37
Telroth_Plushie|err01:37
Telroth_Plushie|adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/ --uid 100001:37
Telroth_Plushie|that should restore all your files01:37
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Telroth_Plushie|and recreate your user so you can log in01:38
killswitch92so i type exactly that?01:38
Telroth_Plushie|yes01:38
Telroth_Plushie|well01:38
Telroth_Plushie|not exactly01:38
Telroth_Plushie|everywhere you see <olduser>01:38
Telroth_Plushie|replace it with your username01:38
kdefryskoctan, yes01:38
killswitch92k01:38
octanalright01:38
Telroth_Plushie|i.e. if my username is telroth01:38
octan:)01:38
Telroth_Plushie|adduser telroth --no-create-home --home /home/telroth/ --uid 100001:38
killswitch92k01:39
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Telroth_Plushie|killswitch92,01:39
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killswitch92let me try01:39
Telroth_Plushie|wait01:39
killswitch92k01:39
Telroth_Plushie|type "ls -l /home/<olduser>/" (replace <olduser> as before)01:40
Telroth_Plushie|is your username listed as the owner of the files?01:40
octanso my main Qestion.. i have been told that in IPTABLES the "owner" --owner-cmd Option has been taked out because it brok on a smp system,, will it still not work on a singel based cpu system.01:40
killswitch92yea01:40
octan?01:40
Telroth_Plushie|killswitch92, then you can reboot and login now. you might need to fiddle with the groups01:41
Telroth_Plushie|let me know when the system comes back up and you are logged in01:41
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kdefryskkuser can do the groupstuff01:42
Telroth_Plushie|i know01:42
kdefryskif oyu like gui that is01:42
Telroth_Plushie|i'm looking through the groups for my user, and i think we should have added him to the "admin" group while in recovery mode01:43
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kdefryskadmin and wheel are most important01:43
Telroth_Plushie|cuz he can't sudo without?01:43
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kdefryskermmmm01:44
Telroth_Plushie|(there is no wheel on my system)01:44
kdefryskforgot about sudo01:44
Telroth_Plushie|i think you have to be in admin group to sudo01:44
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Telroth_Plushie|yup01:44
Telroth_Plushie|he's going to have to reboot again >.>01:45
kdefryskhehe01:45
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LegionI have an external NTFS disk. Is it true that Linux only supports read?01:52
LeeJunFan!ntfs | Legion01:52
ubotuLegion: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:52
LeeJunFan!fuse | Legion01:52
ubotuLegion: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse01:52
vyomanin samba workgroup (linux + win2k) do you enable WINS support or configure samba to be a WINS server?01:52
LeeJunFanthat's what you want, fuse, personally I have seen nothing to prove it's unsafe, ton's of people use it, including me, and I haven't had any problems.01:53
LeeJunFanalthough my use is moderate at best.01:53
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ubuntuyeah, you know what? kernel panics -- not cool.01:53
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[GuS] Bon Jour les gens..01:54
Telroth_Plushie|Legion,01:54
bronaughhaving only one machine in the house that will boot is also not cool; particularly when that machine can't access disks due to stupid Via.01:55
Telroth_Plushie|err, nvm01:55
bronaugh(but no; I'm not bitter at all)01:55
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Telroth_Plushie|load an older kernel?01:56
bronaughI need newer, not older; and I'm on a LiveCD.01:56
bronaughthus I can't burn a new CD.01:56
bronaughsince I can't access my disks, I can't install.01:56
bronaughsince I can't install, I can't burn another CD01:56
bronaughsince I can't burn another CD, I can't boot a different kernel.01:57
LegionIn this day and age, isn't it strange that there isn't full support for a format that can handle files bigger than the 4 Gig limit that FAT has`01:57
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Legion?01:57
faderhvalhow do i use a ISO file in Kubuntu??01:57
bronaughburn the fucker using k3b01:57
LeeJunFan!language | bronaugh01:58
ubotubronaugh: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:58
LeeJunFanbronaugh: if any ops saw that, it wouldn't be fun...01:59
bronaugh*shrug* ok.01:59
bronaughI'm just a little bit pissy right now.02:00
Telroth_Plushie|Legion, ext3? reiserfs? reiser4?02:00
LeeJunFanbronaugh: understand. I'm a potty mouth too, but to keep the channel friendly to people who are easily offended, don't want to make them not feel comfortable here and not get the help they need.02:00
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Telroth_Plushie|bronaugh, ok, you're on a livecd. why can't you access your disks? you mentioned "via", but i have no clue what that is.02:01
LegionI often use less flattering words when I'm angry, but it's simply a matter of getting used to not doing i in this chan02:01
LeeJunFanvia chipset02:01
Telroth_Plushie|ah.02:01
bronaughVia 8251 southbridge; has a SATA controller that isn't supported in either the Kubuntu livecd I have or my Debian install CD.02:01
bronaughit's theoretically AHCI, but the Linux AHCI driver, unpatched, does not support it -- at least up to 2.6.17.02:02
Telroth_Plushie|you can install software to the live environment while on the livecd. can you gain support by installing a package?02:02
derphilhi. Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03 <- whats wrong with it?02:03
faderhvalany suggestions for a DVD player for kubuntu??02:03
bronaughTelroth_Plushie|: without installing kernel source and building a replacement kernel module, I don't think so.02:03
bronaughand I am limited to 250M of crap, so that's going to be more than a little tight.02:03
LeeJunFanno, that's what you'd need. And unless someone already provides one it'd be a real chore.02:03
bronaughplus, I'm suffering from random crashes on this LiveCD (kernel panics) which makes it even more not-fun.02:03
Telroth_Plushie|:(02:04
LeeJunFanfaderhval: kaffiene or vlc02:04
LeeJunFanfaderhval: xine-ui, mplayer, to name a few02:04
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Telroth_Plushie|(i personally recommend kaffeine)02:04
faderhvaldo i need a plugin for kaffeine for it to work?02:05
LeeJunFanI like vlc, but mostly only switched away from kaffeine myself because kaffeine works for crap in Xgl/Beryl environment.02:05
Telroth_Plushie|faderhval, if it's a commercial dvd (a movie you bought at a store) yes. however, using that plugin in the us is illegal.02:05
bronaugh... which is idiotic. but that's beside the point.02:06
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LeeJunFan!dvd | faderhval02:06
ubotufaderhval: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:06
faderhvalwell i live in denmark :)02:06
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LeeJunFanYeah, well contrary to popular believe America is not the land of the free. It's the land of the people dumb enough to think they are free.02:08
LeeJunFanbelief02:08
LeeJunFanbut that's a topic for another channel I guess :p02:08
faderhvalhehe02:08
Legionfaderhval: I thought that name made sense in danish hehe02:09
LegionI live in Denmark too02:09
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faderhvalhehe :) well (hejsa) then :)02:10
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faderhvalwhere abouts do you live Legion?02:11
LegionCopenhagen02:11
Telroth_Plushie|LeeJunFan, wrong.02:11
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LeeJunFanTelroth_Plushie|: huh?02:12
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Telroth_Plushie|LeeJunFan, it's the land where we have the freedom to be dumb.02:12
SortOfThinggreat. Hi kids02:12
Telroth_Plushie|it's just a lot of people use that freedom :/02:12
faderhval:)02:12
LeeJunFanTelroth_Plushie|: hehe, that's about the only one. The constitution is lip service, and our gov't will disregard it at their convenience.02:12
Legionfaderhval: how about you?02:12
faderhvalhmm i can play the DVD alight but the menu is not working!02:13
faderhvali Live in jutland near Skjern02:13
LeeJunFanfaderhval: you might need to install libdvdnav02:13
kdefryskJ02:14
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LeeJunFanWell, guess I better get in the shower. Gotta go give Linux lessons to the library staff here this morning.02:14
faderhvalits already installed....02:14
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LegionDoes Ubuntu/Kbunutu have a specific disk format it uses?02:19
apokryphosext3 is default02:20
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Legiondoes Linux itself take steps to reduce fragmentation? Because wikipedia is pretty confident that no defragmentation tool exists for ext302:22
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Tm_TLegion: When your fsck claims over 10 % fragmentation, ping me.02:24
Tm_TI haven't ever seen more than 3 % in my system.02:24
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Tm_TLegion: So I think my answer would be "yes". :)02:24
Legionhehe02:25
Legionthanks02:25
ecadreLegion: fragmentation is not a real problem on ext3, Windows files systems fragment because of the bizarre way they write to disk02:25
LegionI'm rather new to Linux. I haven't even installed it yet. I've always felt that it was better to investigate first instead of just charging in and going "Awwww damn!"02:25
Tm_TLegion: That very good philosophy, learning first isn't that bad. :)02:26
Telroth_Plushie|shame everyone else doesn't realize that and employ that philosophy.02:27
Legion(Yes, I'm the camper/sniper whom you love to run into in your fav FPS =) )02:27
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linopilecadre:  and if I  delete many little files then write a bif  file (movie)  how continuous  it will be ?02:28
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ecadreyou can learn as you go along, just be prepared read, solve problems and don't be pushy/rude to people who may help you02:28
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linopilhow can you  prove fragmentation  is not a problem  in ext3 ?02:28
ecadrelinopil: sorry, no real idea :-)02:29
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linopilmany years ago Microsoft was not yet ready  with defrag   for NT4 and claimed it was not a problem02:30
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ecadrelinopil: erm how about "there are no defragmentaion tools for ext3"  ;_)02:30
LegionIt seems that it's pretty straight forward to convert forth and back between ext2 and ext3, and ext2 does have a fsck tool02:30
linopilext3 is a journalled ext2 !!02:30
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LegionThe ext2 and ext3 file systems share the same standard set of utilities, e2fsprogs, which includes a fsck tool. The close relationship also makes conversion between the two file systems (both forward to ext3 and backward to ext2) straightforward.02:31
Legionquoted from wikipedia02:32
Tm_TYes.02:32
linopil!windows-media02:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windows-media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:34
LeeJunFanyeah, there really is no conversion between ext2 and 3 just the adding or removal of the journal. You can mount ext3 as ext2 even, it just doesn't make use of the journal then.02:37
octanHey02:37
LegionThe ext3 file system adds, over its predecessor:02:38
Legion    * A journal02:38
Legion    * Tree-based directory indexes for directories spanning multiple blocks02:38
Legion    * Online filesystem growth02:38
linopilany idea how to  install kopete handbook?02:38
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iarwainHiya, does anybody know the "cafe" around here? (the #room to it)02:42
LegionDon't know it, but you can always try something like "/list *ubuntu*" and then take it from there02:44
iarwainlegion: will try that, thanks ;-)02:45
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thelostbyte_Anyone here doing vb ?02:53
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LegionI just took a test online to find out what Linux would be best for me. It said Mandriva, Ubuntu or Kubuntu hehe02:56
ScarFreewillLegoin where did you do the test?02:57
ScarFreewill*Legion02:57
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Legionhang on, I'll get the link for you02:58
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shapeguys i have to install real player02:59
shapebut i can't find it in repository02:59
LegionHere we go! http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php/02:59
shapeanyone could give me a trick?02:59
ScarFreewillthx02:59
shapei'm on a kubuntu edy eft03:00
ScarFreewillshape, i don't know that much about real player but i guess you can read a bit about mplayer or helix think03:00
shapeok what about helix?03:01
ScarFreewilli guess you can try that but i'd advise you to check if mplayer will do the job first03:01
thelostbyte_shape, mplayer can do the job..03:02
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thelostbyte_shape, or do.. sudo apt-get install helix-player03:02
shapeok i'm trying .thanks03:02
murchadhshape: Try here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/69835-installing-realplayer.html03:04
LegionScarFreewill: Did you get a result yet?03:04
murchadhshape: antidrugue has a post on it!03:04
blackflagI wnat to start c programming and I want to know if there is a IDE for it?03:04
linopil\o difference  between adept and synaptic what advantages on each ?03:04
shapei'm seeing03:05
ScarFreewillLegion, i have not even started yet ;)03:05
intelikeyblackflag kdevelop maybe03:05
intelikey!ide03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
ScarFreewill!development03:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:05
intelikey!kdevelop303:06
ubotukdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB03:06
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intelikey!kdevelop3 dapper03:06
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB03:06
blackflagokay , thanks. Im using edgy and I only find kdevelop without 303:07
DaskreechAdmiral_Chicago: Yo03:07
intelikeyif you can call that an ide.  it's little more than an exhaulted text editor.03:08
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DaskreechIsn't that what all IDE's are ?03:08
ScarFreewillblackflag, maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/programming.html03:08
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blackflagwhat can you recommend for starting c programming03:09
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intelikey#C  or  #C++  and expect them to be abusive.03:10
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Daskreechblackflag: try browsing ftp.gnu.org and pulling code03:11
blackflaghmm, kdevelop seems to be the tool of choice, or?03:11
intelikeyblackflag make sure you have  build-essential  installed.  and yes tool of choice.03:12
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shapei've just installed helix player03:14
shapebut i wish to mset it as default on my firefox browser03:14
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GnarusLeoHi! Has anyone managed to get "Second Life" to run smoothly in ubuntu? My 3D drivers should be fine (ppracer works great!), and I have a ATI 9000, and a 1,5ghz Pentium. But still its almost impossible to do stuff with the character, and it seems as if my computer is about about to explode :)03:16
blackflagokay, friends. thanks. Imgoing to start my first "hello World" in C03:16
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Jucatonice. compile it from the command line first. it's a good experience :)03:16
LegionI almost think I know the code for Hello World in C by heart hehe03:17
ScarFreewillLegion, i get Kubuntu, Mandriva, Debian03:17
Jucatoblackflag: tip: leave one blank line after the last }03:17
GnarusLeosys.outprintln("Hello World") :) Or was that java even ..03:17
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Jucatoor you're going to get warnings03:17
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Jucatostd::cout << "Hello Kubuntu!!\n";03:18
shapei try to explain my problem03:18
Legionsystem.io.println("Hello World"); would be the correct java as far as I recal03:18
blackflagwhy is a blank line necassary?03:18
shapei wish tolisten the radio03:18
shapelike for example bbc03:18
Jucatoblackflag: ISO/ANSI standards I think03:18
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shapebut i need real player03:18
ScarFreewillGnarusLeo, system.out.println("Hello World"); is java03:18
Daskreech!real03:18
Legionhehe I was close at least03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:19
GnarusLeothere we are :) Its been ages since ive done some programming :)03:19
shapei know that konqueror has kmplayer as default but it doesn't seem to woek03:19
Daskreech!realplayer03:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:19
Legionusing Eclipse has stunted my memory when it comes to Java03:19
ScarFreewilllol03:19
GnarusLeoso, anyone know whats up with second life? Has anyone managed to get it run smoothly?03:19
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DaskreechBluesKaj: Hi03:19
DaskreechGnarusLeo: Nope still trying that with First life03:20
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GnarusLeoDaskreech, hehe .. clever .)03:20
BluesKajHiyas ALL ! :)03:20
BluesKajhi Daskreech03:20
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LegionI've stopped playing First Life. My account keeps getting buffer underflow03:21
BluesKajhey guys , this is funny : http://www.msfirefox.com/03:22
=== intelikey does hello in bash echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n[ "$1" = "hello" ] && echo "Hell-o $USER"' >> helloworld ;chmod 755 helloworld ;./helloworld hello
Jucatoold news :)03:22
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ehird...  i just spent like three hours playing lbreakout203:23
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DaskreechBluesKaj: http://www.ie7.com03:23
DaskreechWhat?03:23
DaskreechWhen did java go GPL?03:23
Daskreech>_<03:24
DaskreechNoone tells me anything03:24
ehirdlike a week ago03:24
DaskreechDoes it have an effective date?03:24
ScarFreewillOMMS!!03:24
BluesKajit's a spoof :)03:24
DaskreechLike the next release or is it retroactive?03:24
ehirdBluesKaj: no, it isn't..?03:24
BluesKajprolly be hearing from bill Gates's lawyer very soon :)03:25
ScarFreewillseroisly is java GPLed??03:25
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Guardianhi03:25
ehirdintelikey: i've improved it with automatic garbage collection! :D echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n[ "$1" = "hello" ]  && echo "Hell-o $USER" && rm helloworld' >> helloworld ;chmod 755 helloworld ;./helloworld hello03:25
BluesKajerr lawyers03:25
ehirdScarFreewill: yes03:25
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Guardiani thought there were a kvim03:25
Guardianvim for kde03:25
Guardianbut i can't find any package03:25
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ehirdkde-vim or vimkde, i've heard of it03:26
intelikeyehird so you did.  kinda expands the exrocise in futility doesn't it.... :)03:26
ehirdbut apparently it isnt in the repos and i cant find a source download03:26
ehirdintelikey: can i expand it with kdialog support?03:26
intelikeysure.03:26
Guardianehird: neither can i03:27
intelikeyehird you can do anything you want to it.  it's gun-gpl  :)03:27
DaskreechScarFreewill: `http://www.sun.com03:27
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ehirdintelikey: i prefer public domain D:03:27
ehird.. :P03:27
ehirdhowever, Gun GPL sounds nice.03:27
ScarFreewillwhere can i find more inforamtion about sun java oms you answerd my question before i asked it rofl03:27
ehird"you may shoot this gun provided you share any blood wrought with it"03:28
GnarusLeoWhat is "composite"? Like when I use fglrx and so on? I have it disabled, is that bad?03:28
intelikeyehird public domain doesn't ensure the source remain free....03:28
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guglielfhi guys, let's say i'm interested in bash programming03:28
ehirdintelikey: Good for them!03:28
guglielfis there way to know all the channels having bash as subject?03:28
ehirdUnfortunately, it'd just be their copy that's non-free.03:28
guglielfi mean on irc03:28
ehirdAnyone else could take the original and mod it still03:28
ehirdguglielf: try #bash03:29
Daskreechehird: You'd be surprised how easily you can convince people that they have to pay for something that's public domain03:29
Daskreechthere is nothing stating that you have to educate them that they can get it for free03:29
intelikeyehird yeah until bill patens != and all code becomes propritary.....  :)03:30
guglielfehird: ok know that, another one?03:30
ehirdbut would they even want a kdialog hello world?03:30
Daskreechehird: GPL at least ensures they know  that they can obtain a free copy03:30
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shapein the guide you gave to me03:30
intelikeyguglielf /help list03:30
shapethere's how install realplayer03:30
shapebut it is a bout dapper drake03:31
intelikeyguglielf or /msg chanserv list03:31
shapeinfact when i try to manage the repository03:31
intelikeyguglielf or /msg chanserv help list03:31
guglielfintelikey: tnx03:31
shapeanf try to find the realplayer package03:31
shapei can't find it03:31
hastesavershape, I've heard realplayer is there in ubuntu-commercial03:31
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intelikeyguglielf also your irc client probably has online help that can be more specific on a particular search type.03:33
BluesKajintelikey, why does dapper offer a more up to date devede prog than edgy ...any ideas03:33
BluesKaj?03:33
guglielfintelikey:  i'll check right away03:33
intelikeyBluesKaj i don't think it does.03:34
guglielfintelikey: i use konversation03:34
intelikey!info kdevelop3 dapper03:34
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB03:34
intelikey!info kdevelop03:34
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB03:34
BluesKajwell, check out the repos ...it's 2.1 in edy and 2.3 or 2.4 in dapper03:34
ehirdkdialog --yesno "blah" returns nothing no matter what o_O03:35
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LjLehird: not here03:35
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LjLehird: returns 0 if yes, 1 if no03:35
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ehirdI'm getting nilch here03:36
intelikeyBluesKaj devede ?03:36
BluesKajyup03:36
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intelikeydevede is not in standard ubuntu repos.03:36
intelikey!devede03:36
ubotudevede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB03:36
LjLehird: try "echo $?"03:36
intelikey!devede dapper03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devede dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
LjLehird: it "returns" as in "returns an exit value", not as in "prints something on stdout"03:36
ehirdodd, kdialog's always echoed everything ELSE to stdout..03:37
intelikeyBluesKaj i don't know where you got the one for dapper.....03:37
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shapeplease give me the commercial repository link03:38
shapefor edy eft kubuntu03:38
intelikey!repos03:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:38
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LjLehird: well i guess for most other dialogs returning an exit value wouldn't be feasible (think textbox)03:38
shapei have to add it to my replist03:38
BluesKajyeah i've forgotten , intelikey...was surfing and found a repos somewhere ...I'm old and my memory sucks :(03:38
intelikeyshape  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:38
intelikeyread there ^03:38
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shapeyes but it talks about dapper drake rep03:39
shapei need edgy eft commercial rep03:39
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intelikeyBluesKaj it's probably from the debian sid repos  that would be more "up to date" than ubuntu seeing it's upstream03:39
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BluesKajok intelikey, i'll check there03:40
intelikeyshape deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hoary-commercial main03:40
shapehoary?03:41
Jucatohoary?03:41
shape:)03:41
intelikeyor deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu breezy-commercial main03:41
intelikeyor deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main03:41
octanwhy do i get error if i use -A INPUT -p all --dport X -j DROP but not if i do -A INPUT -p tcp --dport X -j DROP03:41
Jucatodapper-commercial only03:41
intelikeyget the idea ?03:41
HawkwindNo need to paste all that.  Just use dapper since that's all he wants/needs03:41
shapeoh i think so03:41
Jucatointelikey: only dapper has a commercial repo. edgy has one, but last I checked, it's empty03:41
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bot12gbplease kubuntu spanish?03:42
intelikeyJucato i was only pointing out how the repo listings work.03:42
Jucatoah03:42
Jucato!es | bot12gb03:42
ubotubot12gb: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:42
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shapeintelikey03:42
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shapeyou were right it03:42
shapei've just got realplayer03:43
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shapethank budy03:43
shape;)03:43
intelikeynp03:43
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intelikeyJucato report on that publicly please.03:43
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Jucatoyep, still empty...03:44
intelikeyk   ty.03:44
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shapeif you go on in this way everyone will leave window to gopass to ubuntu03:44
Jucatohm...03:44
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Daskreechgopass?03:44
intelikeyshape thanks for the warning.    "ALSA WE MUST CHANGE COURSE !"03:45
shapethere's a problem the package is broken03:45
shapesoi try toinstall the .bin package03:45
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shapewhat kind of command i have to use03:45
shape=03:45
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Daskreech./package.bonm03:46
Daskreechpackage.bin03:46
intelikeychmod 555 *.bin ;./*.bin03:46
[GuS] anyone knows a nice webcam stream for linux... but not camstream or VLC... i need to take pics avery X seconds or minutes03:46
beefsprocketekiga?03:46
[GuS] ?03:46
[GuS] do you things that Ekiga could takes pics every X seconds for upload into a web?03:47
[GuS] :P03:47
[GuS] not... thats not.03:47
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BluesKaj[GuS] , http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/gtkcamshot03:49
[GuS] nope.. that either.. i need one under console execution03:50
[GuS] i forgot the dame... damn03:50
intelikey!language03:50
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:50
[GuS] intelikey, ?03:51
ehirddamn is bad language? since when?03:51
[GuS] ehird, same thing i am asking..03:51
[GuS] intelikey, and i ask to you, please use your time for better things :)03:51
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kjelderg_if xset says the screensaver is not enabled and kde says the screensaver is not enabled, why is the screensaver enabled and more importantly how do I disable it?03:56
intelikeykjelderg_ is it xscreensaver or is it power management that is enabled ?03:57
kdefrysksystemsettings >desktop >screensaver03:57
kjelderg_it shows a big white X sometimes03:57
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instructorArgh03:59
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instructor!monitor03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
instructor!display03:59
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:59
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instructor640x480 as the only option really doesn't cut it04:00
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kjelderg_instructor: try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding more modes04:00
kjelderg_should be in the screen section04:00
instructorThe monitor isn't there04:01
instructor it's a new monitor04:01
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instructor I don't see it in the options04:01
intelikeyinstructor sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:01
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intelikeyinstructor or even; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg04:02
instructor-plow?04:02
MorrisseyHi! Has anyone managed to get "Second Life" to run smoothly in ubuntu? My 3D drivers should be fine (ppracer works great!), and I have a ATI 9000, and a 1,5ghz Pentium. But still its almost impossible to do stuff with the character, and it seems as if my computer is about about to explode :)04:02
intelikeyman dpkg-reconfigure04:02
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intelikeyMorrissey i'm not a gamer, don't like/do propriatary krap.  sorry.04:03
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intelikeyi started to install nvidia driver here one time.... found the eula unacceptable.  endo of story.04:04
instructorintelikey: Still doesn't shed light04:04
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intelikeyinstructor what doesnt ?04:05
intelikeythe man page for dpkg ?04:06
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trappistMorrissey: easy way to know for sure if you're 3d-accelerated -> glxinfo | grep rendering04:06
instructordpkg-reconfigure04:06
Morrisseytrappist, glxinfo | grep rendering04:06
Morrisseyit says yes04:06
trappistMorrissey: so that's good.  could it be that second life (never heard of it) simple has hardware requirements beyond what you have?04:07
Morrisseynope, thats the reason, it dont :)04:07
Jucatodo you have the proprietary video drivers installed?04:07
BluesKajintelikey, http://www.rarewares.org/debian.html ...a bit risky but i found the devede 2.5 version on these repos ...there is some other cutting edge video stuff for the ppl who like to live abit on the edgy :)04:07
instructorintelikey: dpkg-reconfigure04:08
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intelikeyinstructor you want do fix xorg to use higher rezolutions    no?04:09
MorrisseyJucato, yes04:09
instructorWell yes But I need to redetect my monitor04:09
instructor I looked in the listing of monitors and it's not listed there04:09
instructorcan I find an official listing of supported monitors?04:09
intelikeyhttp://monitorworld.com04:10
instructorautodetecting gives me back Generic with an upper resolution of 640x48004:10
intelikeyall monitors are supported by x.04:10
instructorI figure04:10
intelikeydon't autodetect.04:10
instructor but I have to know the specs04:10
intelikeygo to that web page and search.04:10
intelikeyhttp://monitorworld.com04:10
instructorGoing04:11
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instructorHmm It's not there either04:12
intelikeyinstructor also of note.  some monitors have that info on the id tag on the back...   "not a lot nowa days"   most if not all have it listed in the users manual that comes with the new monitor.04:12
instructorThe back is pur black no tags etc04:13
instructorHmm wonder if I pull it apart04:13
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instructorNope just the Model number04:14
intelikeyinstructor so use something more generic if you have to.   at the monitor section of the reconfigure process choose simple and select the ctr size   (assumed crt because lcd are all alike i think)04:14
_itahi all .. i need to play around with regexps .. on fc3 i had a little tool under kde that let me play with regexps (entering strings, seeing what and if my exp hits...) - can anyone help me remember what that tool is called ?! (or has advice to some other tool !?)04:15
instructorIt's an LCD04:15
intelikeythen select that.  :)04:15
Alter-Ego! mp304:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:16
Alter-Egowhere is the link for auto repository creation04:16
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intelikey!repos | Alter-Ego04:17
ubotuAlter-Ego: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:17
Jucato!easysource04:18
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:18
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trappist_ita: kregexpeditor04:19
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trappist_ita: as reported by `apt-cache search regular expression | grep -i kde`04:20
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intelikeykregexpeditor - graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE04:22
_itathank you04:23
instructorintelikey: Hoorah!! 1280x1024 :)04:23
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intelikeysee.   see.   si.04:23
intelikeyC04:23
intelikey:)04:23
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kjelderg_sea?04:24
intelikeyno i get sea sick.04:24
instructorI'm sick of C as well04:24
intelikeyor maybe i get sea++ sick   ?04:24
trappistso bad.04:24
intelikey:)04:25
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ubuntu_hey all04:26
intelikeyubuntu_ test driving, or did you break something ?04:27
ubuntu_no04:27
ubuntu_im a) using kubuntu for the first real time (non live)04:27
ubuntu_and b) trying to find an m$ replacement04:27
ubuntu_how do i change my name?04:28
intelikeyman usermod04:28
RoosterHello04:29
ubuntu_eh?04:29
ubuntu_intelli, were u talkin to me?04:29
ubuntu_oops04:29
ubuntu_gotta restart04:29
ubuntu_brb04:29
intelikeyif man pages are still a bit to cryptic for you.  usermod -l new_login_name04:29
ubuntu_oh04:29
ubuntu_u mean in konsole04:29
ubuntu_man? as in manual?04:29
intelikeygotta restart ???    yes konsole04:30
ubuntu_just finished installing04:30
ubuntu_k04:30
ubuntu_ill do that when i get back04:30
ubuntu_might need some guidance, tho04:30
intelikeyubuntu_ yes   man is the command to access the manual pages04:30
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kjelderg_ubuntu_ or try man://usermod in konqueror04:30
ubuntu_DOS and Konsole have a huge variance in command lines04:30
instructorubuntu_: /nick new_name04:30
ubuntu_k04:30
ubuntu_brb all04:30
ubuntu_l8r04:30
instructorIn IRC :)04:30
intelikeyubuntu_    being new to manual pages   man man    would be a good idea.04:31
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intelikeyi really hope that he/she doesn't leave the username ubuntu  as the root jr. account....04:32
stefaniahi guys04:32
stefaniai have a question for you04:32
stefaniai have used the ncurses installer (the one like debian-installer)04:33
instructorWe have answers04:33
stefaniaand found the partitioning tool was very cool04:33
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intelikeygparted04:33
instructorWhat's the incrrect answer to this question?04:33
Jucatoncurses? gparted?04:33
stefaniancurses04:34
intelikeyJucato we always have answers.  but correct answers are scarse as hen's teeth.04:34
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stefaniai used it to easily create a raid1 array04:34
stefanianow i added 2 more disk to the server04:34
stefaniaand want to create a new raid1 array04:34
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instructorLVM?04:35
stefaniai was wondering if i can use the same tool under an installed ubuntu system04:35
stefaniano i want to know the name of the ncurses partitioning tool04:35
stefaniai you can...04:35
stefania*if04:36
intelikeystefania parted frontends are gparted qtparted04:36
intelikeyiirc04:36
instructoreparted! :)04:36
instructor:-( Man e needs some backing04:36
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intelikeyinstructor e is new to me.04:37
intelikey!eparted04:37
stefaniais there anyone that can help here, and that actually is not a bot?04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
intelikeystefania two bots here. ubotu and....04:37
intelikey!stats04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
intelikey%stats04:38
ubotuI have 45 registered users with 44 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.04:38
instructorubugtu I think04:38
stefaniaintelikey: are you a bot?04:38
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intelikeythe other is gone... one bot here.04:38
instructorstefania: he preferes autmoated knowledge transfer assistant04:38
instructorautomated even04:38
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instructorubuntu_: Hi04:38
ubuntu_holas04:38
octanwith iptables. when i set the policy to drop.. iptables -P INPUT DROP does that also DROP icmp protocole ?04:38
ubuntu_hola04:38
ubuntu_holas04:38
ubuntu_quienme ayuda a instalar!??04:39
instructor!es | ubuntu_04:39
ubotuubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:39
ubuntu_:(04:39
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instructorubuntu_: ?04:39
intelikeyubotu are you a bot  :)04:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot  :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:40
instructor!help04:40
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:40
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intelikey!botsnack04:40
ubotuYum!04:40
longsword33733hey04:41
longsword33733im back04:41
longsword33733changed my name04:41
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longsword33733so04:41
longsword33733ya04:41
longsword33733figured it out04:41
longsword33733thx04:41
longsword33733tho04:41
trappist!enter04:41
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.04:41
intelikeycongrats ubuntu / now longsword3373304:41
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longsword33733how do i install wine?04:41
intelikey!wine04:42
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:42
longsword33733is that in the auto updater?04:42
longsword33733is it free?04:42
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intelikeyit is.04:42
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Chousukethe newest version might not be though.04:42
longsword33733kool04:42
longsword33733oh04:42
longsword33733ok04:42
intelikeyread the link ^04:42
longsword33733ill get an older one then04:42
longsword33733!wine04:43
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:43
instructorChousuke: Why not04:43
trappistlongsword33733: I think he means the newest version might not be in the repos04:43
longsword33733ahhhhhh04:43
instructorThey are changing the license?04:43
longsword33733orly?04:43
longsword33733see04:43
HawkwindThe newest version is available in the repos04:43
instructorah Ok :)04:43
longsword33733idk how these open source licenses work04:43
Hawkwind# Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)04:43
Hawkwinddeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main04:43
longsword33733all i know is that kubuntu is "software libre"04:43
HawkwindUse that, and you'll get the latest04:43
instructorI thought that they (WineHQ) had thier own Ubuntu repo04:44
Chousukeinstructor: I meant, it might have not been there before edgy eas releaed :)04:44
longsword33733thx man04:44
JucatoHawkwind: can I use that on Edgy? :(04:44
Chousukebut it seems it was.04:44
longsword33733im not useing edgy04:44
longsword33733isnt that the one u have to pay for right now?04:44
longsword33733no04:44
longsword33733im using dapper04:44
HawkwindJucato: Just change Dapper to Edgy04:44
Hawkwindlongsword33733: Just use what I pasted, add it to your sources.list04:45
longsword33733k04:45
longsword33733thx04:45
longsword33733!source04:45
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:45
LjLpay for?04:45
JucatoHawkwind: I don't think they have one for edgy just yet. maybe04:45
HawkwindJucato: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/04:45
longsword33733i look up ubuntu build releases every few months04:45
Roosterhello04:45
longsword33733anfd i saw that canonical wasnt shipping edgy for free04:45
instructorIs it legal to distribute the source for cedega?04:45
intelikeylongsword33733 then you should read on http://gnu.org to understand the idea of gnu-gpl04:45
longsword33733whats gnu-gp?04:46
JucatoHawkwind: oo nice!04:46
Hawkwindlongsword33733: Google.com is a great place to start for those types of questions04:46
longsword33733ahhhh04:46
intelikeygnu general public license04:46
instructor!google04:46
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux04:46
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longsword33733tyty04:46
longsword33733ya im pretty sure i know all about google04:47
longsword33733thx tho04:47
RoosterI'm trying to increase the res on my monitor from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 1024 but when I got to change it in system preferences the hightest it'll let me set it too is 102404:47
instructor!resolution04:47
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:47
longsword33733hey wine hq is reccomending an UBUNTU directory (repository) tho im using KUBUNTU04:48
JucatoHawkwind: didn't notice they updated their website :)04:48
longsword33733is there any diff?04:48
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RoosterI have an nVidia graphics card.  Is this problem occuring because I don't have the right drivers installed right now?04:48
instructorlongsword33733: Nope use it with our blessing04:48
intelikeyRooster sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg04:48
longsword33733kool04:48
longsword33733thx guys04:48
longsword33733hey hold on04:48
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longsword33733do any of u guys work on the kubuntu dev team or something?04:48
longsword33733cause i swear...04:48
intelikeyRooster no.   the nv driver can handle very high res.  but not 3d hardware accel.04:49
intelikey!nv04:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:49
intelikeyRooster ^04:49
Roosterintelikey: Thanks, I'll check this out04:49
longsword33733so how do i get to the "installer"?04:49
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Jucatowow. Ubuntu's Wine is 3 versions old...04:50
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longsword33733hey will adept adaptyer do it>?04:50
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RoosterI found this:04:50
Roostersudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common04:50
Roostersudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:50
intelikeyfirst check the prerequisites.   if you have nvidia card and you need 3d hardware accelleration.   i have nvidia but don't need the 3d,  so i don't install the propritary driver.   (also i refuse the eula on the propritary)04:51
Roosterin a guide but it screwed up my Xwindows and I had to go back to the live cd to get the proper xorg.config back04:51
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shapeguys i need toinstall a .bin file04:52
shapehow can i install it?04:52
intelikey!repos | longsword3373304:52
ubotulongsword33733: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:52
Hawkwindsh file.bin04:52
intelikeyread there   ^04:52
instructorlongsword33733: Yea it will04:52
Hawkwindshape: You might have to chmod +x file.bin first04:52
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intelikeychmod 555 *.bin ;./*.bin04:53
HawkwindNo need for all of that crazy stuff04:54
intelikeyunless you have several .bin files    ....04:54
longsword33733k thx04:54
Hawkwindchmod +x file.bin works perfectly04:54
shapeok i've typed chmod +x04:54
shapeand then?04:54
longsword33733well... too bad its "busy" at the moment04:54
Hawkwindsh file.bin04:54
longsword33733installing updates04:54
longsword33733...theres a lot04:54
intelikeyyep04:54
longsword33733a hell of a lot...04:55
longsword33733so04:55
shapeyeah but iwish to have an icon in my kde04:55
longsword33733i can run virtually any win32 app on wine, right?>04:55
Hawkwindshape: Won't happen if you're installing from that type of file04:55
intelikeyHawkwind is starting another shell considered safer than just running the .bin ?04:55
shapeahok04:55
intelikeysh file.bin    as opposed to  ./file.bin ?04:56
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intelikey<longsword33733> i can run virtually any win32 app on wine, right? <---- there are apps (some games) that wont run in wine.04:57
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intelikeylongsword33733 windows explorer was one that wouldn't run  i don't know if that has changed or not.04:58
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ehirdthere are many apps that won't work but if you keep at it suprisingly many will work04:58
intelikeythere is a list on the website04:58
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longsword33733what games will run? i like to play counter-strike, and starcraft04:58
Guardianhello04:58
ehirdjust be prepared to have to fiddle with hacks04:59
Guardianjust used adept to install eclipse-sdk04:59
ehirdlongsword33733: why don't you go check yourself instead of making us do work you could do?04:59
Guardianit does not launch04:59
Guardianany idea ?04:59
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Rooster<intelikey>So if the nv driver can handle high res than why can't I increase my res?04:59
longsword33733judst askin, jeez04:59
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ehirdyes, well, we're not your parents04:59
ehirdwine has a site.04:59
intelikeylongsword33733  there is a list on the website04:59
icheynechill out ehird05:00
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Guardianhmm05:00
Guardianseems it's kdialog that changed05:01
Guardiandoes not support --warning05:01
BluesKajHow do I restore KDE windows defaults ?05:01
intelikeylongsword33733 nothing wrong with asking,   and you usually get answers.  just not always correct or useful answers... :)05:01
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longsword33733Intelikey: thx man05:01
intelikeyGuardian did they drop on dash there ?05:02
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intelikey-warning05:02
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instructorlongsword33733: read up on the wine HQ site05:02
Guardianintelikey: sorry ?05:02
instructor !games05:02
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:02
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BluesKajI screwed up my windows settings in kde ...is there a default backup state ?05:02
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instructorwindows 98 or Windows Xp?05:02
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ScarFreewill!java05:03
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:03
Guardianintelikey: yeah i'm using kubuntu edgy, and it's dash05:03
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BluesKajinstructor, read again :)05:03
HawkwindBluesKaj: kcontrol and there is a 'Default' button on almost every screen05:03
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BluesKajok Hawkwind, thx05:03
HawkwindBluesKaj: Or log out of KDE, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old and restart KDE05:03
intelikeyGuardian switches that used to be --blah for some X apps are now -blah   single dash  as opposed to dubble   it's not exactly posix and i dislike it.  but that doesn't change it.05:03
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ehirdintelikey: wow, interesting. any reason?05:04
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intelikeyehird i have no clue.  they probably thought they had a reason.05:04
ehirdi've always used --for-long-type-arguments and -L for the short ones05:04
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instructorintelikey: that's dash?05:05
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lopiohello, someone who help me with install kubuntu :? i have problem with graphic when i want install, i dont want use coomand line, my graphic x700pro05:05
LjLthey probably think standardization and consistency is stupid05:05
intelikeyehird  try  Xorg --version     and try Xorg -version     for an example.05:05
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intelikeyinstructor see that example also   ^05:06
ehirdintelikey: oh wow.05:06
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Guardianintelikey: i guess it's just the /usr/bin/eclipse script that is bullshit05:06
ehirdthat's stupid05:06
instructor!language05:07
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:07
intelikeyehird i concur05:07
Guardianintelikey: here it tries to use --warning on kdialog which simply a non existing option05:07
ehirdi am disappointed in x.org05:07
ehirdX sucks anyway though so meh :P05:07
intelikeyGuardian perzactly.   that why i mentioned it.05:07
kjelderg_aren't we all disappointed with X?05:08
instructorLets go to y!05:08
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intelikeykjelderg_ !i   just disapointed in the developers that think changing to non-posix compliance is acceptable05:08
kjelderg_intelikey: oh?05:09
Guardianintelikey: i don't know if the installation would have worked with ubuntu, but since i started using kubuntu 5.10, nothing really works first shot :/05:09
instructorintelikey: No flash for you?05:10
intelikeylike many of the base utils  now use dashless switches   tar cf file.tar paths/    should be tar -cf *05:11
intelikeyinstructor no i don't do flash.05:11
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trappistintelikey: the tar cf syntax is for compatibility with non-gnu tar, like you'll find on a solaris box05:11
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kjelderg_flash is pretty useless05:11
MorrisseyI want to play an online game in ubuntu :) 3d maybe? Can anyone suggest? ;)05:12
instructorIs there a skribus?05:12
instructor!games05:12
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:12
instructorMorrissey: World of Warcraft :)05:12
Morrisseyinstructor, hehe :) Using cedega? or?05:12
instructorWine can handle it05:13
intelikeytrappist yes of course linux should conform to windows and solaris    but not the other way around....    pfft.   i'll drop it at that.  </rant>05:13
Morrisseyoh, cool05:13
MorrisseyMaybe I want to download a demo, just to test my 3d drivers ... is there a support list?05:13
Morrisseythat can be used with wine?05:13
trappistintelikey: gnu tar accepts both.  I deliberately developed the habit of omitting the hyphen so I won't be like wtf if I find myself on ye olde unix one day... which I figure is the reason behind gnu tar accepting both syntaxes... posix conformance and cross-*nix compatibility05:14
instructorMorrissey: You just want to test the 3D drivers?05:14
kjelderg_Morrissey: try unreal tournament?05:14
instructorglxgears or ppracer should be good enough05:14
Morrisseykjelderg_, the demo?05:14
instructorOr that05:14
Morrisseyboth of em work :) Theres nothing wrong with my 3d drivers, just want to play a game .. been ages since!05:14
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kjelderg_the whole thing, Morrissey05:15
kjelderg_UT is fun times05:15
intelikeytrappist k.05:15
Morrisseyactually im a bit boored with 3d shoot-em-up :) Sorry ..05:15
kjelderg_or enemy territory if you want free05:15
kjelderg_bah05:15
Morrisseyenemy territory?05:15
kjelderg_alpha centauri? (sp?)05:15
Morrisseyoh05:15
kjelderg_enemy territory is shooter as well05:15
kjelderg_based on one of the quakes05:15
MorrisseyI just got the MX revolution mice, so I should try that out as well :)05:16
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Morrisseykjelderg_, does enemy territory look good?05:16
kjelderg_I don't think so05:16
Morrisseyhehe05:16
Morrisseyok05:16
kjelderg_ooh...there was a game I saw recently that did, though05:16
kjelderg_let me see if I kept a link to it05:16
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instructorMorrissey: Browse happypenguin05:18
Morrisseyok, Ill try :;)05:18
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intelikey!tome05:19
ubotutome: A single-player, text-based, dungeon simulation game.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 2307 kB, installed size 9460 kB05:19
_itai did a regexp im happy with .. but what i did is "matching all i want/need" .. if id do a replace now id LOSE all the data i want ... can i somehow negate my regexp ? to use this regexp replacing "all not mentioned" in regexp ?!05:19
intelikeystupid bot.05:19
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Morrisseyintelikey?05:19
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icheynetremulous rocks :)05:20
intelikeylinux game tome not the game tome for linux   there is a world of differance.05:20
kjelderg_Morrissey: ooh, and there was an AoE-like game that was in development, I think05:20
kjelderg_(AoE-like == real-time strategy)05:20
Morrisseyoh, cool .. specifically for *nix?05:20
itknighthey05:20
kjelderg_I think so, though most nix devs make multiplatform out of habit05:20
intelikeyhttp://gametome.linuxquake.com05:21
itknightI am trying to install openkiosk05:21
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instructor!happypenguin05:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about happypenguin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:22
itknightI need to understand05:22
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itknightwhich packages U need for kde libraries and development05:22
itknightI05:22
itknightin adept05:22
Morrisseywww.happypenguin.com05:22
Morrisseyreally :)05:22
kjelderg_http://www.truecombatelite.net/gallery/05:22
itknightHello can some one help me with this05:23
kjelderg_that's the prettier shooter I was thinking of05:23
kjelderg_and now to remember the strategy game05:23
intelikeythis might explain what i meant. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Linux%20Game%20Tome05:23
Morrissey.org evn! Dman05:23
Morrisseykjelderg_, ah05:23
itknightI need to know which packages are the kde development and libraries05:23
itknighthello can anyone help me05:24
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instructor!help05:25
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:25
instructor!anyone05:25
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:25
Morrisseythat looks sweet kjelderg_ :)05:25
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itknightI am installing05:26
itknightopenkiosk and I need kde libraries and development packages05:26
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icheyne!tremulous | kjelderg_05:28
kjelderg_Morrissey:  http://boson.eu.org or http://www.glest.org05:28
ubotutremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB05:28
kjelderg_those are strategies05:28
icheyne!tremulous05:28
kjelderg_icheyne: thanks :)05:28
Morrisseytremulous?05:28
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intelikeyFPS = first person shooter   no?05:29
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icheyneMorrissey, it's excellent05:29
icheynethat's right05:29
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icheyneRTS= Realtime strategy (Starcraft etc)05:29
=== intelikey prefers tbs = turn based stratagy
instructorWesnoth!!05:30
instructor!wesnoth05:30
ubotuwesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB05:30
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kjelderg_wesnoth is so 2d05:31
intelikeyicheyne very closely related the two.05:31
icheynecomputer games are too solitary - unless you are at a LAN party05:31
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icheyneintelikey, sure - but I find boardgames richer and more sociable05:31
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instructorkjelderg_: needing only 3d is so 1d05:32
kjelderg_I've been playing a whole lot of the civ recently...05:32
intelikeywesnoth has the makings of a really good game  but the game campains that are perpaired for it are not even 2d.  they are 1d  linear    imo05:32
kjelderg_my flatmates and I have been up until 3AM pretty consistently with the civ05:32
intelikeyfreeciv ?05:33
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kjelderg_no05:33
kjelderg_the commercial civ, I fear05:33
intelikeymmm never seen it myself05:34
kjelderg_the 4th release, good-looking game, fun play05:34
kjelderg_but now that I've heard boson is playable and usable, I may try it05:34
intelikeyk i'll take your word for it.05:34
intelikeyi just fired 4 times with a 12Ga #6 shot at a bird and still he flys.... i must have lost it............05:36
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Morrisseyhaha! That tremulous broke my X session :)05:37
Morrissey Any other ideas of fun & free 3d games for nix?05:37
intelikeydid you check the tome ?05:38
intelikeythe gametome that is.05:38
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Morrisseyintelikey, I think you gave me a bad link05:39
intelikeypossable.  google can streighten that out tho.05:39
Morrisseyjepp, thats my first hit as well05:40
instructorBoson?05:41
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instructor!games | Morrissey05:41
ubotuMorrissey: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org05:41
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intelikeyhttp://lwn.net/1998/1112/gametome.html05:41
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intelikeyor then again .....05:43
Morrisseyhave you tried americas army?05:44
Morrisseyhehe05:44
Morrisseyintelikey, thanks anyways )05:44
intelikeyMorrissey http://www.linuxgames.com05:44
Morrisseythanks!05:45
intelikeyyou've been there ?05:45
Morrisseywhere? In the army?05:46
intelikeythat site ^05:46
intelikeynm05:46
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kdefryskplaneshift is a great game also running on linux05:49
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kdefryskhttp://www.planeshift.it/05:49
kdefrysksecond life also runs on linux now actually (beta)05:50
instructorWe need an ubuntu games team05:50
instructorWould so turn people around05:50
kdefryskhttp://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin.torrent05:51
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kdefryskhmz , does not work05:51
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shapehy guys05:53
Kim^JHey05:53
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shapei've just put a new user05:54
instructorIs there a community group for Kubuntu wallpapers?05:54
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shapebut when i open a new session with the new user it requires me to change root psw05:54
intelikey!kdelook05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdelook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:54
shapehow can i add a simple user?05:54
kdefryskthere is a kubuntu artwork section05:54
intelikeyshape adduser ?05:55
shapeyes05:55
intelikeyuseradd05:55
shapei tryed05:55
intelikey!sudo05:55
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:55
intelikeyuseradd --help05:55
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shapebut when i try to log in with the nes user it requires me to change root pswd05:55
shapei want to add a simple user not a super user05:56
intelikeynot root passwd.  userpasswd05:56
kdefrysktry kuser05:56
kdefryskand see if its fixable05:56
intelikeysudo passwd 'username'05:56
slow-motionhallo05:56
Kim^Jslow-motion: Hey there.05:57
intelikeyshape you can't add a "super user"  that is root.   you can add a user   and if you wish you can make them root jr.  but you can't add another "root".   errr if you do it breaks things.05:57
slow-motionhi Kim^J05:58
Kim^Jslow-motion: So what's up with you?05:58
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slow-motionnothing. I'm just at home05:58
kjelderg_are there any baldur's gate-style games for *nix?05:58
=== intelikey just topes sudo useradd bob && sudo passwd bob set the password and your are done.
intelikeymabe add the -m to the useradd to creat the home dir.05:59
Kim^JWhy not use adduser and all you have to type is the name and pass?05:59
intelikeyhehhe s/topes/types/05:59
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kdefryskhttp://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#useradd06:00
intelikeyKim^J passwords added that way are saved in your .bash_history file   :)06:00
kdefryskgentoo has great docs06:00
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intelikeyKim^J and adduser was my "first" sujestion.06:01
Kim^Jintelikey: Oh...06:01
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Kim^JHmm.. Well.. There's no  one that can look in my .bash_history :D06:01
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Kim^JAll the other users are chrooted... :D06:01
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sizzamim trying to add a second panel to the top of the screen.  i added the panel and moved it to the top, but i cant figure out how to control the size of that panel06:02
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Kim^Jsizzam: Big BUG. Restart KDE and login again and it should be working.06:03
hollywoodbhmmm... I can add panels & resize them no prob06:03
sizzamthanks Kim^J06:03
Kim^JAlso... Why haven't that bug been fixed? Been in since Breezy.06:03
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SortOfThingwhat is the value of bogofilter method VS bayesian method?06:03
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hollywoodbSortOfThing: doesn't bogofilter do bayesian filtering?06:03
SortOfThingdunno06:04
hollywoodbSortOfThing: it does ;)06:04
intelikeyKim^J and you added a chrooted user with the adduser command ?    or a chroot adduser    (which makes more sense.)06:04
SortOfThingOk. Thanks =^___^=06:04
Kim^Jintelikey: The other users on that PC is chrooted in their homes.06:05
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intelikeyk06:05
Kim^JThey can't escape their homes so they can't watch my .bash_history06:05
Kim^JDoes root have a .bash_history ???06:06
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Kim^JAnyone from San Francisco ?06:06
intelikeyescaping a chroot is possable.... just very difficult.  and requires finding an exploit.06:06
spiritzKim^J: Yes it does but it won't save what do trigger as 'sudo'06:06
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Kim^Jintelikey: I believe that my users aren't really skilled enough to escape their chrooted homes.06:08
intelikeyroot's .bash_history would only be writen in a sudo -i  environment or root login06:08
intelikeyKim^J probably so.06:08
intelikeynote that sudo -i   and su -  are relatively equal06:08
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Kim^JHmm... If I start a program in screen and then close the ssh connection. Will the program still be on?06:09
Zicbon :>06:09
spiritzKim^J: nope06:10
Kim^JNot doing CTRL+A+D06:10
intelikeyKim^J if you detach the screen first.06:10
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Kim^Jintelikey: Ok... mm..06:10
Kim^JHmm...06:10
spiritzKim^J: There was a google summer of code projet that should lead to what you are asking for... maybe in next or n+1 Xorg release06:10
spiritzKim^J: sorry, I'm talking about GUI app, not terminal app06:10
Kim^Jspiritz: Ok... I was thinking of Irssi.06:11
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Guardianre06:11
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Guardianhmm i tried to launch synergy server as part of /etc/rc.local but nothing happens, any hint please ?06:11
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intelikeyKim^J you can ssh into a box run screen then open anything and detach the screen and exit ssh   ssh back in and reattach the running screen    man screen06:12
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Kim^Jintelikey: That I know. I wonder if I skip detaching will the program still be running then?06:13
intelikeythat's also one reason i don't like screen.    more fun for hackers/script kiddies.06:13
Xal2Hi06:13
guglielfguys any idea on a good website downloader?06:13
intelikeyKim^J no.06:13
Xal2I'm having problems with partitioning my drive in setup.06:13
Xal2Setup only sees one drive with no partitions, but my drive has the proper partitions setup for Linux.06:13
ragplease somebody know about unattended install with kickstart and alternate cd?06:13
raghello *06:13
Kim^Jguglielf: You wanna download a site?06:14
guglielfyep06:14
Xal2I get critical error during ped_disk_new06:14
intelikeyguglielf wget06:14
intelikeyor aget06:14
Kim^Jguglielf: That you can't do.06:14
guglielfmmm ok06:14
Kim^JYou can only download the code that the server parsed to you.06:14
ragi'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd06:14
intelikeyKim^J you can't ?06:15
guglielfi was thinking about something similar to teleport under win06:15
Xal2Any idea why Linux isn't seeing my partitions in setup when it saw them just fine in my previous Kubuntu installation?06:15
intelikeyoh nm i follow.06:15
instructor!kget06:15
ubotukget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB06:15
guglielfright06:15
Kim^Jintelikey: No. Using wget to download a site would only give you the code parsed by the server.06:15
guglielfkget06:15
ragubotu: do you know ? :)06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about do you know ? :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
ragubotu: hello ubotu ! :)06:15
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB06:15
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intelikeyKim^J said i followed.  but basicly that is the site.   site minus the os and other controling software.06:16
Kim^Jintelikey: Hmm... If the site is using PHP it's very useless. :D06:16
Kim^JA dude of mine tryed to wget a php script :D06:16
instructorbah just comile hello from source06:17
Kim^JWas kinda funny when he only got the code that was created by the server. :D06:17
Zarephath!restricted06:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:17
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intelikeyaget -R url would get every thing you have permission to access....   but as you pointed out not the controling apps/code06:18
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intelikeyapsent!       @ food !06:19
intelikeyb06:19
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ehirdso who here MANUALLY compiles code? In that they use ed to read the code and replace it with the binary data manually using your brain to work it out06:21
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ehirdinstructor: yay!06:22
Kim^Jehird: Isn't that kinda useless?06:24
ehirdKim^J: it makes all binarys manually optimised!06:24
Kim^JWell.. Ofcourse. :D06:24
guglielffound one website downloader: http://www.httrack.com/06:24
ehirdsince I know how to convert 500 languages into binary using my brain i might as well use the best text editor ever, ed, to do my stuff!06:24
ehirdguglielf: that's a windows app06:24
guglielfdon't know if it works with oho though06:24
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guglielfphp06:24
ehirdhah pjp06:25
ehird*php06:25
guglielfit works in linux also06:25
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guglielffree software gpled06:25
trappistguglielf: sudo apt-get install httrack06:25
trappist!httrack06:25
ubotuhttrack: Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.40.4-1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB06:25
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guglielftrappist: tnx06:27
instructorKDE takes up 300 Megs?06:27
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Kim^Jinstructor: Maybe.06:27
Kim^JIt's a DE.06:27
trappistehird: why bother with the code in the first place?  just crank out the binary using the supercoder2000 ( http://linuxkungfu.org/images/fun/geek/?image=37 ) and you're done06:27
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ehirdtrappist: pff, i work at lower level than 0s and 1s, but that is how i write code! but i can't compile x that way!06:28
instructorI just aptitude removed kdelib4c2a and it freed up 354 megs06:29
ehird... imagine installing gentoo that way06:29
trappistehird: I'd get cramps06:29
guglielfbye guys, nice day/night to you all06:30
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kayhello where can i find the kernel config file?06:31
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instructorguglielf:  and to you06:31
trappistkay: for the running kernel, /boot/config-$(uname -r)06:31
intelikeywhat happened to  wall  ????  it no longer prints to my gui  even for root ?06:32
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intelikeyalso only to tty1 if tty[1-4]  are owned by same user06:32
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kaytrappist: thx for fas answer and good help :D06:33
instructorwhat about write?06:33
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trappistor talk06:33
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instructortalk is borked in Ubuntu06:34
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instructorthe maintainer is still using inet.d and ubuntu has dispensed with that package06:35
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intelikeytrappist i sued to do that, but i lost the hey stack i stored my magnetic needles in.....06:37
trappistI just make new ones out of old floppy drives06:38
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intelikeyspeeking of hay.  hay shortage this year.  cattle prices plumit accordingly.    possable beef shortage next spring ?06:38
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intelikeyor !offtopic  :)06:39
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brettHello all06:40
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brettI am the IT guy at a real estate office and i am considering making the computers there dual boot to Windows and Linux06:41
Kim^Jbrett: Just Linux. Not Windows.06:41
scott_w|lappybrett: i agree with Kim^J06:41
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brettThe MLX website they use is built for IE is the problem06:41
scott_w|lappywinetools06:41
brettit will not let you use other browsers06:41
scott_w|lappywinetools lets you run IE in linux06:42
brettyeah i am trying to see if it will work with wine06:42
intelikeyie for linux ?06:42
Kim^Jbrett: Rewrite and do it right.06:42
scott_w|lappyintelikey: it sounds wrong i know06:42
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brettwell i cant go all windows the realtors will freak06:42
brettis there any browsers that mimik IE? so i dont need to use wine?06:42
Kim^JConvince them that Linux is so much better.06:42
Kim^Jbrett: Konqueror.06:43
bretthmm06:43
bretti am curious06:43
brettlet me try06:43
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instructorbrett: Note that it is NOT IE so I doubt it will work06:43
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intelikeybut doesnt M$ make an ie for linux ?06:43
brettinstructor: yeah i know...but worth a try06:43
trappistintelikey: they used to make one for "unix" but not anymore06:44
instructorhttp://www.msfirefox.com06:44
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Kim^Jintelikey: You think they would give away their precious code to the evil Linux market?06:44
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GnarusLeof.eks when I want to play Enemy Terrotiry (or other GL full screen games) it cant set my resolution correctly (So everythings blurry) because I have a widescreen res .. how to fix this?06:44
intelikeytrappist oh ok.  i'm only 5 or 6 years behind the times....  that will remain unchanged as long as time stands still.06:44
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brettIE just downloaded....i am trying it now06:46
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trappistthere's also "ies4linux" which is several versions of ie put together to run in wine06:46
brettIE would not install06:47
trappistbrett: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page06:48
bretttrappist: thanks06:48
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bretttrappist: lol... the site gives you a IE like browser then requests that you do not use IE to view their page :-) use firefox06:49
trappistbrett: it's not an ie-like browser... it's ie... x306:49
bretttrappist: huh?06:49
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intelikey   IEs4Linux is the simpler way to have Microsoft Internet Explorer running06:50
intelikey   on Linux (or any OS running Wine).06:50
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intelikeybrett thats from that url ^06:50
larss0ncan someone please help me install the latest version of Java ?06:50
intelikey!sun-java06:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
intelikey!sun-jre06:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sun-jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:51
ragi'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd06:51
trappistlarss0n: enable multiverse repository.  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre (iirc)06:51
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brettis ubontu feeling better?06:52
intelikey  yeah i short changed the name *5-jre06:52
intelikeybrett yes06:52
intelikeynetsplit is solved for now..06:52
bretthuh?06:52
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ragintelikey: hello how are you! is for me?06:53
steve__ca parle francais jespere icit :)006:53
intelikeybrett that's what was wrong with ubotu the other day (yestergo)  it was net split.06:53
ragintelikey: i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd06:53
brettoh06:53
trappist!fr | steve__06:54
ubotusteve__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:54
intelikeyrag what network card do you have ?06:54
intelikey!wifi06:54
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:54
brettsomeone just said he was sick... i was curious how a bot could get sick ;-)06:54
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steve__TKS ubotu ! :)06:54
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bretthow do you register your name on these channels?06:54
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intelikeybrett hehhe part of himself was missing ....  :)06:55
trappistbrett: /msg nickserv help06:55
sebastian_hi06:55
intelikeybrett you register with nickserv   /msg nickserv help register06:55
brettthanks06:55
hoskyhi, i have a rare problem ._. when i plug the ac adapter the cpu usage switch between 0%->100%->0%->100%....06:55
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sebastian_args06:55
hoskyi make a top but don't see any process06:55
hoskyhttp://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sreencl5.png06:55
sebastian_hosky: what about ps -ef?06:56
hosky1 seg06:56
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hoskyUID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD06:56
sebastian_probably the power management06:56
sebastian_?06:56
hoskydon't see the cpu usage06:56
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klerfaythttp://pastebin.com/826763 I have problems with dvd shotcut created on the desktop as cd006:58
hoskynow, i stoped apmd (adavcen power....) and acpid06:58
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shadowhywindhay all, i was wondering if there was a way from a konsole to open a new konsole and run a command? if that makes sense06:58
ehirdeh06:59
ehirdwhy doesn't xterm find any of the fonts i set06:59
klerfaytshadowhywind: konsole06:59
scott_w|lappyshadowhywind: konsole "command"06:59
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brettcool thanks guys im outa here06:59
shadowhywindi tried that and that didn't work06:59
ehirdshadowhywind: "echo "command" | konsole"06:59
intelikeyshadowhywind konsole command07:00
trappistshadowhywind: konsole -e command07:00
klerfaytshadowhywind: use tabs instead07:00
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shadowhywindi know tabs would work, but thats not what i am trying for hehe07:00
intelikeyrxvt command07:01
ehirdany ideas about my xterm prob?07:01
intelikeyxterm command07:01
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ehirderr07:01
cryptoniciv made kde the default guoi on ubuntu how do i revert back to gnome?07:01
ehirdthat isn't my problem :)07:01
klerfaytehird: that is because in edgy xorg,conf fontpaths are broken07:02
ehirdwhy doesn't xterm find any of the fonts i set <-- quote me07:02
ehirdi'm doing -fn "Bitstream Vera Mono"07:02
ehirdi tried -fn "serif" too as a test07:02
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intelikeyehird that wasn't to you.    but to your question possably xterm is looking in the wrong path for the fonts ?07:02
MenZacryptonic: open gdm, choose 'Session' and select GNOME07:02
ehirdintelikey: <noob>where would i change this?</noob>07:03
intelikeyehird not sure.07:03
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klerfaytehird: kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:03
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ehirdklerfayt: your gui text editors speak a language i do not understand! /me does sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead07:04
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ehirdokay, found the paths. where are the fonts really stored?07:04
intelikeyehird best luck i've had with setting xterm is alt right click on an xterm   or better still write a `/.Xresources file and define all the terminal stuff in there.07:05
cryptonici want to make gnome totally the default as in im going throufgh the kde logon screen now and i dont want to use the kde version any more07:05
Alter-Egois mp3 support and libdvdcss bieng burried or am i not getting the right repository ?07:05
cryptonicMenZa : i want to make gnome totally the default as in im going throufgh the kde logon screen now and i dont want to use the kde version any more07:06
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ehirdi wish there was a tabbed xterm :P07:06
klerfaytehird: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-core/+bug/7117307:06
MenZacryptonic: in Gnome, that's Settings -> Login Screen (choose GDM in one of those menus rather than kdm)07:06
intelikeyehird mxterm07:07
intelikey!mxterm07:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mxterm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:07
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longsword33733wow07:07
longsword33733wine doesnt take any time at all to install...07:07
ehirdE: Couldn't find package mxterm07:07
longsword33733thx guys07:07
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longsword33733u were a lot of help07:08
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trappistAlter-Ego: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh07:08
trappist!mp3 | Alter-Ego07:08
ubotuAlter-Ego: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:08
trappistthat too07:08
intelikeyehird sorry had the wrong app.   mrxvt_0.4.2-1_i386.deb07:08
trappistespecially check out RestrictedFormats07:08
intelikeywas thinking xterm  but it's rxvt07:09
intelikey!mrxvt07:09
ubotumrxvt: lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB07:09
ehirdyes, but that's not xterm is it?07:09
ehirdit's totally different07:09
intelikeysaid that already  ^07:09
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intelikeyactually most of the differances are cosmetic.   but that's argumenitive07:11
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ehirdwell, the only difference in 99% of terminals are cosmetics, mm07:11
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Digital_PioneerHow can I crosscompile for windows?07:12
larss0nhow can i kill an secret procces by the console ?07:14
ragintelikey: my interest is on unattended install, via kickstart with alternate cd it can't download with wget ks file but it not download by network07:15
ragintelikey: realtek 813607:15
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bot12gb#kubuntu.es07:17
larss0n;l07:17
larss0n'l07:17
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larss0nSorry for that :S wright in the wrong window07:18
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bot12gbkubuntu spanish please?07:18
fdoving!es07:18
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:18
ragbot12gb: kubuntu-es :)07:18
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ragintelikey: do you know if is possible load a module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?07:19
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ragintelikey: or need i a etherboot disk?07:19
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ragintelikey: the problem is a laptop, and dont have floppy :(07:20
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Rooster_Hello?07:25
larss0nhow can i kill an secret procces by the console ?07:26
larss0nhow can i kill an secret procces by the console ?07:26
larss0nhow can i kill an secret procces by the console ?07:26
larss0nhow can i kill an secret procces by the console ?07:26
larss0nhow can i kill an secret procces by the console ?07:26
intelikeyrag modprobe module-name07:27
trappistlarss0n: you seriously need to fix that07:27
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larss0nsorry :(07:27
intelikeylarss0n sudo killall name    sudo kill pid    ?07:27
ragintelikey: i know it but not work con alternate cd07:27
larss0ni dont have anny rubber nearby07:27
trappistlarss0n: what is a "secret process"07:28
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intelikeyrag sorry i don't have the alternate cd   so i can only speculate there.07:28
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ragintelikey: which module for 8136? uhmm r8136?07:29
larss0nyou know, kind of like when your mom is under your bed looking at you when u surfing on porn07:29
intelikeytrappist i assumed it was one he wasn't willing to reveal07:29
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ehirdlarss0n: i see.07:29
ehirdothers: is there an easy way to restart my x session without losing the state of my apps?07:30
trappistehird: not yet07:30
trappistactually probably never07:30
ehirddarn07:30
ehirdmy xterm depends on it! :<07:30
trappistehird: that's what nohup and screen are for!07:30
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trappist(especially screen)07:31
ehirdno, more like i fixed xorg.conf so i can use fonts in xterm :)07:31
scott_w|lappyehird: you could try writing the current X state to disk then reloading it when X starts... but that would require you to rewrite X07:31
scott_w|lappy:P07:31
ehird:P07:31
scott_w|lappythough KDE saves the state of programs to a certain extent07:31
ehirdyeah cept i disabled that since it was horrible on startup07:32
scott_w|lappyhaha, yeah it is07:32
ehird``Do you think I restarted for FUN or something?!"07:32
ideasrexi have a problem with my kubuntu edgy doesn't see other partitions of my new hard disk, does anyone know solution to this, please?07:32
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Ace2016ehird: restarting is only half the fun07:32
Alter-Egoi am getting real choppy playback and scrolling in kubuntu07:32
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Ace2016Alter-Ego: what app?07:33
Alter-Egofirefox, kaffiene, etc.07:33
BonBonTheJonideasrex: what do you mean it cant see them07:33
Alter-Egoscrolling is real choppy07:33
Ace2016Alter-Ego: playback of video or audio?07:33
ehirdxterm: "./firstlinuxvirus-NOTETHISISNOTAVIRUS" user: "crap. *restarts*" kde: "*restarts virus for you*"07:33
Alter-Egoi have had kubuntu edgy on this machine before, and not had this problem07:33
Alter-Egovideo07:33
Ace2016Alter-Ego: try mplayer and try opera they tend to be faster07:33
intelikeyehird what virus ?07:34
ideasrexBonBonThejon: earlier it wasn't problem with my old hard disk but now it doesn't list anything in my /media07:34
ehirdintelikey: ...07:34
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ideasrexit is WD 250 g, earlier it was maxtor if it is of relevance07:35
larss0ni am runnigs kubuntu on a pentium 1 computer07:35
larss0ncool ha07:35
BonBonTheJonideasrex: /media should have directories for cd-roms and ipods and such07:35
BonBonTheJonlarss0n: you using KDE on that?07:35
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scott_w|lappythere's no need for /media imo07:36
ideasrexstrange earlier it listed my partitions :S07:36
BonBonTheJonideasrex: did you reinstall linux?07:36
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ideasrexbut where is my hard disk then, how can I access my data?07:36
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ideasrexyes i reinstalled linux and windows07:37
intelikeylarson9999 ah anothere p1 user.07:37
intelikey!ntfs07:37
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:37
intelikey!fuse07:37
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse07:37
BonBonTheJonideasrex: run "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"07:37
intelikeyBonBonTheJon -l ^  ?>07:38
ideasrexthanks a lot i will try now07:38
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BonBonTheJonintelikey: hey, that works much better07:38
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BonBonTheJonideasrex: you need to run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" to show your partitions07:39
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ideasrexi just ran fdisk /dev/hda07:39
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BonBonTheJonideasrex: it probably didn't run if you didnt do sudo07:39
intelikeyBonBonTheJon also the device is not needed when sudo fdisk -l   is called.07:39
ideasrexand it said something about "cylinders for this disk is set to 30401,....07:39
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cryptoniccan someone help me get beryl successully working on ubuntu?07:40
BonBonTheJonideasrex: ok, get out of that and just run "sudo fdisk -l"07:40
intelikeyBonBonTheJon not that there is anything wrong with limiting it to one device mind you......07:40
larss0nAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.07:40
larss0nhow can i use adept again ?07:40
BonBonTheJonintelikey: yeah, not specifiying probably is better since it might not be hda07:41
intelikey:)07:41
ideasrexBonBonTheJon: thanks now it shows all of my partitions it seems07:41
cryptonicthe status bar with the close maximize and minimize doesnt seem to work properly, as in everything else works but that07:41
BonBonTheJonideasrex: what filesystems are you using07:41
Ace2016hi all07:41
larss0nAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.07:41
larss0nAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.07:41
larss0nAnother process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.07:42
Ace2016anyone here know a good podcasting app?07:42
trappistlarss0n: dude for real.07:42
larss0nSPRRY07:42
larss0nSORRY07:42
larss0n*07:42
ideasrexntfs for both windows and data paritions07:42
trappistlarss0n: please identify the problem and fix it.07:42
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BonBonTheJonideasrex: ubuntu can read ntfs, and writing is in the works07:42
intelikeylarss0n pgrep dpkg   to see if anything is using it.07:42
ideasrexi would be happy if it would be possible to adjust just to access and read from this partitions07:42
cryptonicthe status bar with the close maximize and minimize doesnt seem to work properly, as in everything else works but that07:43
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Dr_willisYou should be able to read a ntfs partition easially enough07:43
larss0nNothing is using ITT!07:43
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trappistcryptonic: you mean the titlebars on applications?07:43
BonBonTheJonideasrex: ok, now can you pastebin /etc/fstab07:43
raglarss0n: make sure you dont have opened other management software, like synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, automatix, etc07:43
cryptonictrappist : yes07:43
BonBonTheJon!pastebin07:43
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:43
cryptonicin beryl that is07:43
Dr_willismy fstab entry for NTFS --> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       107:44
larss0nThe problem became a problem when i needed too close down the java install, because it was lag07:44
trappistcryptonic: oh.  yeah last time I tried (it was compiz) that stuff wasn't working so hot in kde.07:44
intelikeyanyone know off hand the "command" to open a new tab in konsole ?07:44
jameshello having problem with alsa any helpers available?07:44
ragintelikey: do you know if is possible load a network module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?07:44
larss0nThe problem became a problem when i needed too close down the java install, because it was lag07:44
ragintelikey: sorry :)07:44
ragdo you know if is possible load a network module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?07:45
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TheGateKeeperlarss07:45
Dr_willisalt-ctrl-N intelikey  from what i am reading in the konsole shortcuts settings07:45
larss0nJa ?07:45
TheGateKeeperlarss07:45
jamesi am having problems with alsa kaffeine and amarok cant inialize drivers any suggestions was working now it is not?07:45
TheGateKeepergrrr07:45
larss0nyes ?07:45
larss0nWhat ?07:45
intelikeyrag i don't have the alternate cd.       but   sudo modprobe "module-name"   should work on any booted linux.07:45
ideasrexi ran pastebin /etc/fstab and it says bash: pastebin: command not found07:45
BonBonTheJon!pastebin | ideasrex07:45
ubotuideasrex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:45
Dr_willisideasrex,  he ment POST it to a pastebin web site. :)07:46
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Neuron-DKwhere does one go with suggestions for kpdf/okular?07:46
intelikey!paste07:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:46
ideasrexoh ok :)07:46
TheGateKeeperlarss0n, log out, then log back in, see if that clears it, otherwise you have a broken package that needs fixing07:46
ragintelikey: yes i know my problem is which is name module? for realtek 8136,07:46
TheGateKeeper!broken07:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:46
jamesalsa question any takers?07:46
Dr_willis!alsa07:46
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin07:46
TheGateKeeper!adept fix07:46
Dr_willisL)07:46
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB07:46
jamesok07:47
larss0ni think i have a brocken package07:47
ragintelikey: which are general name for realtek cards, module names , r* , rt*?07:47
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intelikeyrag modprobe -l   lists available modules  and google can search better than intelikey can.07:47
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TheGateKeeperwhat's the bot command for fixing adept?07:47
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trappistintelikey: dcop `dcop | grep konsole` konsole newSession07:48
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  i never can rember. :) ya mean to remove that apt lock file?07:48
intelikeyrag and  [shift] +[pageup]  scrolls the console  or should i say pages the console.07:48
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TheGateKeeperDr_willis, well I think there is a number of things it suggests07:49
jamesthe problem seems limited to xine related stuff not the alsa07:49
ragintelikey: yeah i know, thx07:49
ragintelikey: i need a network module generic, do you know? i try it with pcnet32 but no...07:49
wilmanwhat is kpse tools?07:50
intelikeytrappist thanks,  and can you help rag get a eth card working.  i'm network illiterate.07:50
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bechbonsoir tout le monde07:50
jamesit just crashed kaffeine and amarok but vlc and mplayer work fine07:50
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ragintelikey: thx intelikey!!! a lot07:50
intelikeynp07:51
trappistrag: catch me up, I haven't been paying attention :)07:51
stalinserel canal espaol donde esta?07:51
trappistrag: have you tried rtl8150?07:51
BonBonTheJon!es | stalinser07:51
ubotustalinser: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.07:51
ragstalinser: kubuntu-es07:51
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ragtrappist: no, i try07:52
bechquelqu'un peut m'aider  ? je n'arrive pas a avoir de son.07:52
stalinsergracias :D07:52
BonBonTheJon!fr | bech07:52
ubotubech: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:52
trappistrag: or 8139too07:52
trappist!fr | bech07:52
trappistoh too slow07:52
ragtrappist: i tell you, i need wake up my ethernet card, because i try install with alternate cd and kickstart installation file07:52
BonBonTheJon:)07:52
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ragtrappist: for unanttend install07:52
intelikeytrappist works great.  really grateful.   been kicking that around for days.   :)07:53
trappistrag: I'm not very familiar with that environment07:53
trappistintelikey: dcop is pretty great.  only thing, I'm not sure if that'll work right if you have more than one konsole window open07:53
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ragtrappist: the problem is: alternate cd always detect ethernet card07:53
trappistintelikey: but if you can figure out how to get the current konsole session other than `dcop | grep konsole`07:53
BonBonTheJon!opera07:54
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser07:54
intelikeytrappist i can ppid it for that.07:54
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ragtrappist: on this laptop it not detect eth0, eth1, wifi.. nothing!07:54
trappistrag: you're not using the alternet cd?07:54
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trappistintelikey: kdcop is very helpful figuring out what to send the calls to, what calls are available etc.07:54
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ragtrappist: i pulse ctrl+alt+f2 and try modprobe, already i tried with pcnet32, r8169, 8139too, etc07:55
ragtrappist: yeah i use alternate cd07:55
trappistrag: ok what happens when you do those things07:55
trappistrag: 'no such device' errors?07:55
ragtrappist: i try modprobe and module is loaded07:55
rfariashi07:55
rfariasmy first excursion in Kubuntu XD07:56
trappistrag: then can you try like 'ifconfig eth0 <ip address> up'?07:56
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ragtrappist: with lsmod i see modules loaded :) but ifconfig not return me nothing07:56
ragtrappist: no error no results :(07:56
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trappistrag: what about 'ifconfig -a'07:57
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intelikeydcop `dcop | grep konsole-$PPID` konsole newSession  <--- only opens for the existing konsole window.07:57
intelikeytrappist ^07:57
ragtrappist: all , appear only lo07:57
trappistintelikey: dcop konsole-$PPID konsole newSession07:57
ragtrappist: all , appear only loopback07:57
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trappistrag: remind me what card this is - I'll see if I can find out what driver it wants07:58
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BonBonTheJonhi rfarias07:58
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ragtrappist: realtek 813607:59
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ragtrappist: but it say "Unknown device 8136"07:59
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ragtrappist: it say my lspci :)07:59
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deema_anybody here use Prism54 islsm?08:00
ragtrappist: now, i put again ifconfig eth0 192....08:00
ragtrappist: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device08:00
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beerhungrycan someone help me, i can't find a driver for printer CANON PIXMA ip330008:01
beerhungry?08:01
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trappistrag: toshiba laptop?08:01
ragtrappist: every time i tried with differente modprobe, i change to ctrl+alt+f1 and on install try detect network hardware again,08:01
fowlduckhow do I change the default group of a user so that all files and directories they create belong to that user?08:01
ragtrappist: but without exist08:01
ragtrappist: yeaaaahh, oh irqpoll parameter kernel?08:01
ragtrappist: o yeah, i forget it! :)08:01
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rittselbeerhungry: sorry, in a hurry and i cant find it right now.08:02
trappistrag: hard to tell from googling, but I think support for that card was added in the 2.6.18 kernels08:03
ragtrappist: is possible with irqpoll works for me :) i tryingg...08:03
ehirdis there a way to make xterm always start as xterm -bg black -fg white?08:03
ragtrappist: not is possible, last week i install on same laptop08:03
ragtrappist: other laptop , same model08:03
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trappistrag: the same cd worked on the same model, different laptop??08:05
jdfellowhello i have question about the sound server08:05
ragtrappist: yeah08:05
ragtrappist: alternate cd i38608:05
trappistrag: the first thing to investigate then is whether you have a hardware problem08:05
ragtrappist: rag to crazy now...08:05
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ragtrappist: :)08:05
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trappistrag: see if there's anything interesting in the output of `dmesg`08:06
ragtrappist: my fingers are in X :)08:06
ragtrappist: detecting network hardaware...08:07
ragtrappist: :( fail08:07
ragtrappist: failed08:07
deema_anybody here use Prism54 islsm?08:07
trappistrag: it really sounds like a hardware problem08:07
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ehirdno ideas?08:08
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jdfellowif the alsa sound system fails is there a way to restart it without restarting the computer or better yet keep the sound system from dying?08:08
resmo_re08:09
ragtrappist: uhmm look it... it appear me: "No Ethernet card was detected, but a FireWire interface is present. It's possible, though unlikely, that with the right FireWire hardware connected to it, this could be your primary Ethernet interface. Do you intend to use FireWire Ethernet?08:09
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ragtrappist: uhmm how to disable FireWire on boot kernel parameters?08:09
trappistehird: check out /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm08:10
trappistrag: don't know08:10
trappistehird: or ~/.Xdefaults08:10
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ragtrappist: ok thanks a lot08:13
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trappistehird: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200012/answerman.html#q108:14
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wilmancan someone help me with kguitar08:17
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ehirdwhy do i get Cannot get working directory from sudo in xterm? it works tho08:18
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ehirdhmm, ruby apps trip on it too complaining about  no "getcwd"08:19
intelikeyi added this function to my .bashrc   function newtab { dcop $(dcop | grep konsole-$PPID) konsole newSession }     works like a  ibm office jet.  :)08:19
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intelikeyback later.08:20
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Bubba_Gump:)08:28
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sandeepphew..08:31
sandeepfirst step into linux  world08:31
BluesKajsplittsvelle again08:31
BluesKajwelcome to linux ! :)08:31
sandeephehe! Thank you :)08:32
sandeepjezzz....the amount of applciations u get bundled............phew..08:32
BluesKajit takes some work and concentration , but it's free !08:32
sandeepgood stuff i must say08:32
BluesKajcool , glad you like it08:32
sandeepnow if only i can play DVD's in this thing08:32
sandeeplol08:32
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sandeepi have heard kaffeine before08:33
BluesKaj!codecs08:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:33
Sutokasandeep: i think the dvd stuff is in universe08:33
sandeephmmm....08:33
sandeepthat xine or whatever...it doesnt work good08:34
sandeepat all08:34
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sandeepi think the codecs have been stripped08:34
sandeepgoota instaal them manually i guess08:34
Sutokayeah you have to add them through those guides i believe08:34
sandeepthink u  r right08:34
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sandeepsuse to kubuntu08:35
Bubba_Gumpseems a lot of people are coming to kubuntu08:35
sandeephmmm...i used to use Suse08:35
sandeepbut I like kubuntu08:35
sandeepxandros is good but....their packaging format is different08:36
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Sutokawell i haven't decided for sure yet, but suse's been going really down hill since 10.0 (10.1 shipped with a broken package manager)08:36
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sandeepwow...broken package manager08:37
sandeeplol08:37
sandeepthats funny...........08:37
BluesKajyes, i used suse 10.1 (Yast sucks) fedora core5 (hardware probs) ...edgy has so far been worth the effort :)08:37
Sutokayep, they decided to make an entirely new one and ditch the one they've used for years that worked08:37
sandeepi find fedora really buggy08:37
BluesKajfedora is frustrating08:38
Bubba_Gumpmy kubuntu box just purrs..08:38
Sutokai hated yum in fedora08:38
Bubba_Gump:D08:38
Sutokai used apt4rpm, but never used an deb/apt based distro for more than a little bit (last time i tried kubuntu it was horribly broken)08:39
sandeepok wht do u guys think abt Mac OS X?08:39
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Sutokaim not a fan of it (loathe it actually) but a lot of people seem to like it for some reason08:40
Bubba_Gumpheh08:40
Bubba_Gumpall about image :)08:40
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Sutokaits so much about image for them that they hid the kernel dumps with a little friendly 'please restart the computer' picture when the kernel dies08:41
Bubba_Gumphah!08:41
Sutokai made that screen come up a couple times at an apple store... didn't know till later that they'd replaced the kernel dumps to the screen with that image08:42
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Bubba_Gumpsounds 'user-friendly'08:43
Sutokayes, if you don't want your user to know that the machine just died in flames08:43
Bubba_Gump:)08:43
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Sutokai thought it had maybe installed updates in the background and wanted me to reboot for them08:43
Bubba_Gumpheh, ooh no :)08:44
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BluesKajwell , we all knowe whats wrong with MS ...Gates & Windows , but they forgot to close the backdoors :)08:44
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sandeeplol08:45
sandeepIts all about the registry08:46
sandeeplol08:46
Sutokais there a page anywhere that you can browse/search through a list of packages available in (k)ubuntu? (like you can do with the gentoo-portage.com site for gentoo)08:46
klerfaytSutoka: yes08:46
fdovingSutoka: packages.ubuntu.com08:46
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fdovingSutoka: you can also use apt:/ in konqueror08:47
Varjat_byHi! I have a TV tuner KWorld PVR-833... I have installed them and can watch tv? but i have a problem with IR remote control for one..08:47
klerfaytSutoka: it is also integrated into firefox searchbar08:47
Sutokafdoving: im asking because i don't have kubuntu installed currently, and am curious if all the programs i normally use are just an apt-get away or not08:47
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Alter-Egoamaork won't play shoutcast streams ?08:48
klerfaytfdoving: wow apt:/ is nice08:48
Sutokafdoving: the packages.ubuntu.com looks like its exactly what i want08:48
fdovingklerfayt: it is, needs some graphical/design attention though.08:48
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Varjat_byI read in any how-to, that I try to find my remote control device in output of "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" - but i have no remote control there...08:49
ehirdthere's an apt:/08:49
ehird?!08:49
Varjat_bySo, how i can fix it?08:49
Sutokaehird: yes, its a kio-slave for konqueror and kde08:49
ehirdSutoka: i approve!08:50
klerfaytSutoka: there do I get list of all kio-slaves (man:/ locate:/ apt:/)?08:50
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Sutokaklerfayt: kinfocenter -> protocols08:50
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Sutokaklerfayt: theres a LOT (like sftp, fish, smb, nfs, http, ftp, etc)08:50
klerfaytSutoka: this is amazing; I have been on that page in kinfocenter before but never realized that these are kio-slaves that you type into address bar08:52
ehirdwhy is konq suddenly laggy08:54
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klerfaytehird: what web page?08:54
raghello again :)08:54
ehirdklerfayt: any08:54
ehirdi only have 3 tabs open08:55
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joe3khall08:55
klerfaytehird: apt-get install firefox08:55
ragon edgy katapult not works , do you know ?08:55
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ehirdklerfayt: why the hell would i use a buggy, slow, gtk-based, non-intergrated browser?08:55
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klerfaytehird: it is faster than konq (at least on my machine)08:55
d_holas08:56
klerfaytrag: it works08:56
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ehirdklerfayt: you're using gnome aren't you?08:56
Sutokaehird: if its a javascript heavy page, that may be the problem (kjs is slow, khtml is very fast)08:56
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ehirdSutoka: no, it's ANY site08:56
ragklerfayt: no for me, well form a user, my user08:56
klerfaytehird: no; I'm kde fan08:56
ehirdit's more changing tabs that happens08:56
ehirdor making a new one08:56
klerfaytrag: oops you are right it is broken :/08:57
ehirdit frrzes up for about a sec, suddenly08:57
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Sutokaehird: is your system under load? maybe updatedb is running?08:57
ehirdkatapult works fine here08:57
ragklerfayt: uhm08:57
ragklerfayt: :)08:57
ragehird: where?08:57
ragehird: dapper i know08:57
ehirdSutoka: nope i've closed almost anything but a tes twebrick, konq and konversation+kopete08:57
ehirdrag: edgy08:57
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Sutokaehird: is your system maybe swapping somehow? (i prefer to check in kinfocenter -> memory)08:57
ragehird: how to?08:58
ragklerfayt: do you know fix it? i tried reinstall but no08:58
ehirdSutoka: it's swapping but only 45% of physical memory is used, weird08:59
klerfaytkatapult is broken here08:59
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paul_I fresh install of Kubuntu edgy Konqueror cant browse net nor go higher than home in browse directory ,also using google search bar just opens up another instance of Konqueror :/08:59
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Sutokaehird: i'd bet its cause of the swapping, though it really shouldn't be swapping that much when so much is free08:59
ragklerfayt: dpkg-reconfigure katapult, is ok this command?08:59
ehirdeven more suspicious08:59
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ehird45% used yet only 6% free?08:59
steveireHey. My camera appears to be unsupported. dmesg should show some messages when I plug it in to the usb port, right?08:59
ragsteveire: run lsusb09:00
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ragsteveire: and say me you see09:00
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steveirerag: It only shows my mouse. What do you mean say me you see?09:00
ideasrexcould someone review my /etc/fstab error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32364/09:00
Sutokaehird: 'application data' in physical memory is the only part thats actually 'using' the ram, disk cache and disk buffers only take up free space and will immediately be cleared if an app needs the space09:00
ragklerfayt: please can you run dpkg-reconfigure katapult for me, i havent edgy in front of now09:01
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ragsteveire: change usb other enty09:02
ragentry09:02
klerfaytrag: it is broken still09:02
ragklerfayt: what?09:02
steveirerag: I did, no difference09:02
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ragsteveire: test it on all , and run lsusb09:02
ragsteveire: yeah , there is a difference :)09:03
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klerfaytrag: alt-space doesn't do nothing and if I alt-f2 katapult doesn't show up also09:03
ragklerfayt: yeah nothing09:03
steveirerag. Same silence.09:04
ragklerfayt: like you have problem and me too, do you want try it solve this together, now i search on google09:04
ragsteveire: which cam?09:04
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klerfaytrag: sure; I'm searching in launchpad09:04
steveireCanon powershot A710IS It should show a dmesg output anyway, no matter who made it.09:05
ragsteveire: ok i thinking on webcam09:05
steveireI'll try it on windows later. No time to spend on this right now09:05
ragsteveire: in "other systems" it works09:05
steveiredunno. It might.09:06
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paul_anyone know if there a known problem with konqueror on edgy ,,it refuses to browse internet and go any higher than my home direcvtory?09:07
velleAdmiral_Chicago: hey09:07
klerfaytrag: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/katapult/+bug/5691809:07
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ragpaul_: run on konsole --> ping www.google.es for example and test your network09:07
ragklerfayt: solve it?09:08
paul_I can browse with firefox ok09:08
Admiral_Chicagovelle: hello09:08
Admiral_Chicagocan i see those bug reports?09:08
paul_and obviously ~I am here09:08
trappistpaul_: what happens when you try to browse09:08
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ragpaul_: i dont know but konqueror havent these bug09:09
paul_if I use the google search it just opens up anopther instance of Konqueror09:09
Admiral_ChicagoPM is a prive message, you type /msg <nick> and you can talk to them directly. People usually request to PM before hand and you can only do it with a registered nick09:09
Ace2016hi all09:10
Ace2016i have a font problem09:10
Ace2016the font is rendered smaller in linux and windows and its messing up my open office documents09:10
Varjat_byGays, I need to build kernel with lirc drivers support.. May be you know any how-tos? Or can give any suggestion how I cen get kernel sources?09:10
Ace2016i need some help fixing it09:10
velleAdmiral_Chicago: some of them are not actually bugs... but worth a look anyway for the developers09:10
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ashraf__hello09:11
ragklerfayt: can you run : rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc?09:11
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trappistVarjat_by: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)09:12
klerfaytrag: lol I do not have it09:12
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ragklerfayt: problem like katapult version , no?09:12
klerfaytrag: it is clean edgy install09:14
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ragklerfayt: i dont know how to solve it, and you?09:15
Varjat_bytrappist: image - is it sources!?09:16
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klerfaytrag: I don't really care cause I do not use it :D09:16
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ragklerfayt: me too, but my userfriend use katapult09:18
jcbhello people09:18
Varjat_bytrappist: adept show me, that linux-image for i386 is alredy installed..09:19
Varjat_byBut /usr/src forled is empty..09:20
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trappistVarjat_by: apt-get source, not apt-get install.09:22
Varjat_byOh.. Sorry :)09:23
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Grigorgeoushola gente09:25
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emeteohi09:27
Grigorgeousm gustaba mas cuando las instalaciones se hacian en modo consola, por as decirlo. El nuevo mtode de instalar desde un live CD me parece un desperdicio de tiempo09:28
emeteohow can I select a folder != /home and /media on a collection of amarok?09:28
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Varjat_bytrappist: sorry ones again.. I have installed Kubuntu 6.06 from i386 from CD, but i have Athlon 1700+.. May be better download kernel for k7?09:29
trappistVarjat_by: the kernel *source* will be the same09:29
Varjat_byOr I will have problems with it compilation and installing?09:29
trappistVarjat_by: but if you're asking which kernel you should *run*, sure, go with k709:30
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Varjat_byYes.. I know what is $(uname -a) mean...09:30
trappistVarjat_by: you're not likely to notice a difference though09:30
Varjat_byI want to rebuild kernel for k7 processor..09:30
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LjLyes, the question is *why*?09:31
trappistVarjat_by: that's really not worth the effort, but you can do it09:31
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bLaZeDVarjat_by, http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0 that will walk you through building a new kernel09:34
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jmichaelxhas anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in kubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.09:35
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Varjat_bySo I start apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 - and than I can simply build it (with lirc drivers support) and install without any problems?.. And my kurrent i386 kernel will be simple owerwrited with new k7-kernel?09:35
LjLand Varjat_by if you google "linux from scratch" you will be able to compile an entire distribution by yourself :P09:35
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Zairek is there anyway for me to disable the kwallet its very annoying09:36
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bLaZeDVarjat_by, if you dont understand what your doing dont do it....you will only break your system09:36
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Varjat_byOk, thanks to all09:37
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trappistVarjat_by: it's a whole lot easier to build a kernel from kernel.org sources, but there are howtos on building from ubuntu source09:37
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[Relic] anyone know what the java config file?09:38
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trappist[Relic] : there's no such thing09:38
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trappist[Relic] : you just set environment variables, for example in your ~/.bashrc09:39
[Relic] there's got to be something that screwes up the text in blackdown version vs normal text in just installing the one from suns site09:39
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trappist[Relic] : it's not a config issue09:40
skreetHello has anyone here seen 'Soft lockup on CPU#0' followed by a lockup during boot, intermittantly?09:40
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[Relic] I still need to figure out where it is stored so it stops the wrong behavior09:41
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joe3kheh life is hard09:44
gkjonesjust instaled kbuntu and want Universe URL please09:44
rysiek|plhi all09:44
gkjoneshi09:45
luxuslol kde4 looks funny09:45
joe3kgkjones: look into /etc/apt/sources.list, it's the same URL as "main", you need only to type "universe" instead of main09:45
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rysiek|planybody experienced problems with katapult on Kubuntu 6.06.1? when I try to use it to play smthng in amarok, amarok shows a message "no proper plugin" and an *incorrect, relative* path to the file I was trying to play09:46
joe3kjust had a talk on a forum with a guy saying ubuntu translates to "cannot configure debian"09:46
rysiek|pljoe3k: yeah, didn't you know that? :)09:46
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skreetubuntu translates to "Why the hell should I waste my time configuring a system for the most common settings?09:47
joe3krysiek|pl: well i kinda think there's really a bit more difference :)09:47
skreet+"09:47
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rysiek|pljoe3k: yeah, the blue-ish look ;) but seriously, I have Debian on my server and Kubuntu on my desktop, both fit-in great and do the job they're ment to be doing09:47
Varjat_bybLaZeD: I have Expiriens with configuring FreeBSD kernel.. But Kubuntu is my firs Linux-base system. And i have problems with installing IR remote control :( I have to rebiuld kernel :(09:48
joe3krysiek|pl: yeah but he's like ubuntu sucks and the devels suck as well because they only steal things from debian09:48
cryptomHi all, I've set evolution window (with the window menu "advanced" -> "special window settings") to "remember" Desktop 3. This works with firefox and used to work with evolution under breezy/dapper.09:48
Zaireso is there a way to disable the kwallet09:48
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cryptomsince the upgrade to edgy, evolution appears on the workspace where it has been started (not the remembered value)09:48
rysiek|pljoe3k: who's like that?09:48
rysiek|pljoe3k: ah, the guy09:49
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rysiek|plright :)09:49
joe3krysiek|pl: exactly09:49
rysiek|pljoe3k: well, I'd *love* to see him configuring anything on Debian09:49
joe3kso i tried to explain him that ubuntu does little more than just repackage debian stuff and put ubuntu on it09:49
Zaireits all opensource so only way to really consider it stealing is to not release a distro09:49
joe3kZaire: well you have lfs ;-)09:50
rysiek|plZaire: precisely, that's exactly the idea.09:50
jimbrowskihas anyone got any ideas why i'm having problems installing kde (kubuntu) from edgy?09:50
[Relic] I'll just unistall this one and get the one from the sun site which works correctly  :)09:50
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rysiek|pljimbrowski: what are the problems09:50
joe3krysiek|pl: well didn't understand that because he initially described himself as lame and then started to praise debian's simplicity09:50
jimbrowskiits something to do with the ksysguardd which shows up as a broken package.09:51
Zairedebian is a pretty good OS but its out of date cause they hardly do any work on it...I mean their still stuck on 3.109:51
rysiek|pljoe3k: O_o' well, ho was thoroughly right: he's lame.09:51
rysiek|pljimbrowski: what *exactly* are you trying to do?09:51
rysiek|plZaire: I dissagree09:52
Zaireyou can all you want they just don't to enough upkeep and work on it09:52
rysiek|plZaire: it's "the server distro", they're putting a *lot* of work in stability09:52
rysiek|plZaire: and, to be honest, it's stable as a rock09:52
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ZaireI never said it wasn't I just said it was out of date09:53
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rysiek|plZaire: and if you need some cutting-edge, compile from source, or use the volatile repos09:53
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joe3kwell that's probably the reason why stable still has 2.4.x :)09:53
jimbrowskiinstall kde from the terminal as described in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy09:53
rysiek|plZaire: it's not out of date. Just yestarday it apt-get upgraded ssh to the newest version09:53
bronaughyay... LiveCD still runnin.09:53
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Zairehave they fixed the skype issue yet09:54
rysiek|plZaire: unless we're talking a different "out of date" - the one in which if a distro does not have php5 nowadays it's outdated09:54
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bronaughgod damn lazy skype programmers.09:55
ZaireI hear that09:55
bronaughtheir ALSA support seems to only look at the default card for mixer controls.09:55
joe3k:)09:55
Zaireskype is an essential for me09:55
bronaughI've submitted a bug report with them (which is bloody difficult to do)09:55
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joe3kbronaugh: well i had to make a few hacks to get that crazy stuff to work on friend's laptop09:56
bronaughbut so far, I haven't received any response.09:56
Zairethe skype ppl don't care about linux support...theyve stated that much theri concern is winblows09:56
joe3kbronaugh: i found it somewhere on gentoo forums that thing needed some crazy alsa parameters in .asoundrc i never heard of09:56
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bronaughjoe3k: it doesn't really.09:56
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bronaughit just needs to be the only card.09:57
joe3kbronaugh: ?09:57
jimbrowskiI would have thought it would be a problem that was heard of as its happened to 2 pcs i tried it on09:57
joe3khm it was the only card09:57
joe3kwith dmix09:57
bronaughohh.09:57
bronaughyeah; I'm not even going there.09:57
Zairethey don't do support for linux really09:57
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bronaughthen they should release their source code.09:58
rysiek|plZaire: use Wengo instead of skype :)09:58
Zaireshould but not likely to happen09:58
Zairenope skype or none09:58
joe3kbronaugh: then they could directly release the protocol specs :)09:58
bronaughif they aren't going to support it themselves... let the community do it.09:58
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joe3kand that would be the death of skype as client09:58
rysiek|playe09:58
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rysiek|pljimbrowski: sorry for absence, my kb's batteries went buh-bye ;)09:59
Zairethe only issue I still run into on linux is 1 program uses the whole soundcard so nothing else can09:59
bronaughwell... uhh. maybe they shouldn't piss off the Linux users if they don't want us to rev eng their protoc.l09:59
bronaughZaire: dmix does work around that.09:59
rysiek|pl=] 09:59
Zairedmix?10:00
bronaughyeah, ALSA thiny.10:00
bronaughthere's something similar for the mic.10:00
jimbrowskino probs bruv, any ideas?10:00
bronaughbasically copies output of mic to as many programs as connect.10:00
rysiek|pljimbrowski: I understand you have ubuntu 6.10 and try tp install kde by installing kubuntu-desktop, right?10:00
rysiek|pl*to10:00
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jimbrowskiyep10:01
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eilkerhi, anyone could you suggest me security scanner?10:01
joe3kjimbrowski: do you have a clean 6.10 or upgraded from 6.06?10:01
eilkerlike nessus in linux, like acunetix in win3210:02
jimbrowskifresh 6.1010:02
rysiek|pljimbrowski: ok, do: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade - and paste the full output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, and give us the link10:02
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rysiek|pljimbrowski: erk, that's: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade :)10:02
coreymon77hi guys10:02
coreymon77my apt-get update gives me some failed to fetch notices from certain sites (including the security repo) can someone please give me a full featured, working apt sources.list for edgy?10:03
joe3kVarjat_by: what ir?10:03
jimbrowskii'll try that now10:04
joe3kcoreymon77: just a minute10:04
rysiek|plok, maybe somebody will actually try to help me out, too ;)10:04
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rysiek|planybody experienced problems with katapult on Kubuntu 6.06.1? when I try to use it to play smthng in amarok, amarok shows a message "no proper plugin" and an *incorrect, relative* path to the file I was trying to play10:04
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joe3krysiek|pl: i don't use katapult so i can't10:05
rysiek|pljoe3k: then you should start using it, it's a great helper ;)10:05
coreymon77what is katapult?10:06
joe3kcoreymon77: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3240010:06
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jimbrowskihttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32399/10:06
joe3kcoreymon77: backports are missing but you don't need that now i think10:07
rysiek|plcoreymon77: a small app running in the bg, when you press Alt+Space shows a "window", when you type-in a name of an app or a song, it starts that app or plays that song10:07
joe3krysiek|pl: tried a few times but didn't really like it _that_ much10:07
joe3krysiek|pl: the idea is great but i can start the few apps i usually start with mouse anyway10:07
rysiek|plcoreymon77: or, if you type-in a mathematical expr, it will show you the result10:07
rysiek|pljoe3k: well, I cannot live without it now :)10:08
joe3krysiek|pl: ok the math expr sounds a lot better, maybe i'll give it a try again :)10:08
rysiek|playe10:08
rysiek|pljimbrowski: erm, what was the *exact* command you used?10:08
klerfaytrysiek|pl: http://tinyurl.com/yxh9wd10:08
rysiek|pljoe3k: best part is: it's pluginable. you can write your own plugin for it. :)10:09
jimbrowskisudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:09
joe3kjimbrowski: you know what packages.freecontrib.org is?10:09
joe3kjimbrowski: if you don't i'd just remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list10:10
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rysiek|plklerfayt: ah, right, thanks10:11
coreymon77thank you joe3k10:11
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jimbrowskierr,no. i'll try that.10:11
joe3kcoreymon77: did it help?10:11
coreymon77yes10:11
coreymon77it works perfectly now10:11
rysiek|pljimbrowski: first of all, please run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade10:11
coreymon77wow man!10:12
coreymon77lots of upgrades to do10:12
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jimbrowskiok dun.10:12
joe3kjimbrowski: ahh10:12
joe3kjimbrowski: you get the could not open lock file error as well10:13
joe3kjimbrowski: isn't adept or synaptic running? you have to close it before running the command rysiek|pl told you10:13
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Xal2Hi, I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu. The installer can't see any partitions on my hard drive, but fdisk can.10:17
rysiek|plgtg, cu al and thanks for the fish10:17
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jimbrowskidun that, dunno about  not open lock file error though?10:18
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jamesok i have a question about ejecting a cd anybody available10:20
james???10:20
Xal2Sometimes you have to unmount the CD first.10:20
Zaireif its how to do it from cli and it wont norm unmount the use umount -l /cdrom and then eject /cdrom10:20
jamesyes thanks for responding that is not what is happening i think ... it shows konqueror running as a process when i kill all of these processes then it will eject why and how can i prevent or stop this?10:21
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Zairegot me there10:22
jamesI have no visible konqueror window open10:22
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jamesi could kill all konqueror and then eject which seems rather extreme10:23
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joe3klsof or fuser is better to find the "bad" one10:24
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coreymon77!seen whopper10:25
joe3kfuser -m /media/whatever10:25
ubotuWhopper is on IRC right now!10:25
Varjat_byI simply click on CD icon on my desctop and klick 'Eject'.. If your konqueror is in process list but you cann't to have access to it - it is not nomal..10:26
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Xalgah10:27
XalSomething is wrong with my partition table or something.10:27
XalI tried fdisk /dev/sda and then w to rewrite it, but setup still can't see my partitions.10:28
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Xalfdisk -l shows all of them.10:28
jamesif i in a terminal type eject /dev/cdrom it reports that device is busy10:28
jamesuntil i kill konqueror10:29
Ace2016can't you get konqueror to unmount it?10:30
larss0ndo anybode know some good downloading program for music ?10:30
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hyper_chgot some x-server problems: no screens found and error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority10:31
jamesmy version of kubuntu does not have an unmount option it automatically unmounts and ejects10:31
jamesedgy10:31
Zaireif it reports as busy and won't eject use sudo umount -l /cdrom and it will force an unmount10:31
nargEdgy refuses to install the libqt3-mt-dev; is this a known bug or did I hose my box somehow?10:32
jamesok10:32
Xallol still talking about the cd rom problem10:32
Xalwow10:32
jamesits not over till its over10:32
larss0ndo anybode know some good downloading program for music ?10:32
Xaltrue10:32
joe3kjames: did you try the fuser or lsof10:33
XalI haven't found a solution to my problem :(10:33
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ZaireIve had it not eject cd many times due to the inability to unmount and umount -l has yet to fail me10:33
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jameshow do use fuser in a nutshell tried the manual10:33
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joe3kjames: first try fuser -m /media/cdrom or whatever you have10:34
jameswhat is the command fuser what ...?10:34
jamesok10:34
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narglarss0n: If you mean just an automatic http downloader, wget or kget work well. If you mean p2p, you'll want to look at amule or azureus.10:34
jameswhat does that do?10:34
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larss0nsomething like frostwire ^^bunt my java doesent work :S10:35
Zaireif its kubuntu its /cdrom not /media/cdrom10:35
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joe3kZaire: i have /media but i didn't change my fstab for years10:35
narg!java > larss0n10:36
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joe3kjames: shows you processes blocking the device10:36
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Zaireyea but default for dapper is /cdrom10:36
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jamesawesome and -k kills them without listing is that correct10:36
joe3kjames: something like that10:36
jamessweet10:36
joe3kjames: but maybe you should take a look who blocks that and why10:37
joe3kjames: don't you have some previews enabled in konq?10:37
jamesyea it was konqueror10:37
rafaguapHi boys!! Problem with acpi: either i put at boot the message acpi=force, and so my wireless works, either I put pnpbios=off, and so my usb memory key is working. Not both, unfortunately!10:37
jamesdon't know10:37
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jamesopening a dvd does not automatically stop up the system it is after i play a file that i have trouble ejecting10:38
BluesKajanyone have a repos for oogle earth in edgy ...since updating from dapper mine is kaput10:38
BluesKajgoogle earth10:38
joe3kjames: ok so play that file and then do lsof /media/cdrom or /cdrom10:39
jamesdoes anyone use lineakd and can you do multiple commands for one keystroke?10:39
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dima_helo i'm from russia10:39
joe3kjames: lsof is better but i had to figure out you can't write lsof /media/cdrom/, but /media/cdrom wout the / at the end10:39
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joe3kdima_: hi pretty late already, isn't it ;-)10:40
joe3kjames: it will show you the file which is still open10:40
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jameswill check that out10:40
jamesby the way it is cdrom010:41
Zairecdrom will generally work to10:41
joe3kis usually simlinked10:41
joe3ksym10:41
Zairealthough might be diff if you have 2 drive I spose10:41
dima_yes. i translate some word on russian language10:41
joe3kdima_: that's great, i do the same for sk10:42
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dima_i'm very slow.but understand :)10:42
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dima_what is sk10:43
joe3kdima_: slovak10:43
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scoateshello10:43
jamesthanks till later10:43
seraphangelanyone know what command i have to use so i can watch files from my other drives as a reg user?10:44
dima_slavak i can understand yuo language little10:44
seraphangelits saying i dont have the permissions to play um10:44
scoatesafter about 18h of uptime, Xorg starts eating unreasonable amounts of CPU. Things like moving windows don't update until I stop moving them, and top shows Xorg pegging at 98%+ CPU when doing thinks like opening menus. How can I diagnose (and eventually) solve this problem?10:44
joe3kdima_: hehe the same with me with russian lang ;-)10:45
joe3kseraphangel: what fs is it?10:45
joe3kseraphangel: did you configure it in /etc/fstab?10:45
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dima_slavyanskie kak ni kak10:46
seraphangelits recognizing all my drizes10:46
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seraphangelthe one im trying to play from is reiserfs from when i was on slack10:46
dima_:)10:46
vikkeI have a question, if I need a package for a certain application, and that package depends on alot of other packages so i cant install it. how do I work that out?10:46
joe3kseraphangel: ahh ok10:46
jmichaelxhas anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in k/ubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.10:47
joe3kseraphangel: not sure what do you have to do there, did you check the permissions?10:47
ubuntuhow do fomat a floppy to fat file system with ubuntu?10:47
dima_i setup squid on kubuntu and connect 20 peaple10:47
seraphangelits saying i dont have the right permission to play um10:47
seraphangeldont know the gui way10:48
seraphangelonly command line10:48
joe3kseraphangel: check your permissions with ls -l /media/... plz10:48
scoatesubuntu: apt-get install dosfstools, then mkfs.dos10:49
ubuntui can't install anything, i'm using a live cd10:49
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seraphangelseraph@seraph:~$ ls -l /media/hdd10:49
seraphangells: /media/hdd: Permission denied10:49
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joe3kseraphangel: and ls -l /media ?10:50
nothlittake out the /hdd part10:50
joe3kgood point10:50
seraphangeldr-x------ 1 root root 12288 2006-11-11 21:44 hdd10:50
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seraphangelweird10:51
seraphangelall the rest are....drwxr-xr-x10:51
joe3kseraphangel: do you have your fs automounted upon boot?10:51
joe3kseraphangel: if yes check your /etc/fstab and look for the line with hdd10:52
seraphangeldont remember if this one is or not for some reason it didnt mount a few that were sposed to be and i had to manually do it10:52
ubuntuis there a way to format a floppy to fat file system with a live kubuntu cd?10:52
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seraphangelhm10:52
seraphangelactually10:52
rafaguap.. any clue to start searching about these acpi things??10:53
seraphangelit didnt add it to fstab10:53
seraphangelalong with a few other drives10:53
joe3kubuntu: try mkfs.dos as scoates suggested, if it does not work try maybe mkfs.vfat (maybe its the same, dont knw)10:53
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joe3kubuntu: if it's not working you can't do it with livecd10:53
seraphangelfor the uuid do i need to add that part when i add the other drives to fstab?10:54
joe3kseraphangel: hmmm so i wonder who mounts it then10:54
seraphangeli manually did10:54
joe3kahh ok10:54
seraphangeli keep this comp on 24/7 so i didnt realize it wasnt on auto10:54
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joe3kseraphangel: not sure, didn't play with the uuids yet, it just happened during upgrade10:54
seraphangelhm10:55
dima_i have very interesting book about linux but they on russian language10:55
seraphangeli know how to add without it but some of the options in fstab are new10:55
XalI just tried a previous version oa Kubuntu, and it still doesn't detect my partitions. Fdisk, however, does.10:55
joe3kseraphangel: according to man fstab you still can use the device name10:55
joe3kXal: what disk is it, sata?10:56
Xalyes10:57
XalIt's on a Via controller, if that matters.10:57
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joe3kXal: did you look into launchpad? maybe it's a known problem ....10:58
XalI've installed Linux on this drive before though, and why would fdisk see them?10:58
XalNo10:58
XalHow would I search for this though?10:58
XalSetup doesn't detect partitions, but fdisk does?10:58
joe3kXal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu10:58
joe3kXal: well if it's a bug in setup or something like that, than yes10:59
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XalHmm, I wonder if the same bug would be in 6.06 and 6.1010:59
joe3kjoe3k: i've no sata disks so i can't really tell10:59
seraphangelhm how would i take root off all my other partitions ecept my main system10:59
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Xaljoe3k: don't see anything that is specific to my problem.11:00
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joe3kXal: dunno, found some sata+via, but this one rather crashes https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qtparted/+bug/4849411:01
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SpySpooKyhi, what is the default pw for "su -"?11:02
nothlitIs it just the setup that doesn't detect it? Does it show up under ls /dev ?11:02
nothlitSpySpooKy, null11:02
joe3kXal: the next one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/247811:02
bLaZeDSpySpooKy, there is no password11:03
joe3knothlit: fdisk sees it11:03
bLaZeDSpySpooKy, its a randomly genrated number11:03
joe3knothlit: strange11:03
Xalnothlit I'm not quite sure. Setup detects the drive, and fdisk detects the partitions. That's all I really know.11:03
bLaZeD!sudo | SpySpooKy11:03
ubotuSpySpooKy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.11:03
nothlitSpySpooKy, it doesnt work until you change the root password with sudo passwd but you can get a root shell with sudo -s (keeps variables) or sudo -i, replaces with root variables11:03
SpySpooKyokay, thx11:03
bLaZeDSpySpooKy, yea or u can do sudo su - to get a root terminal11:03
joe3kXal: setup detects it? so you only cannot create parts/or install it there?11:04
SortOfThingsudo rulz11:04
XalI can write an empty partition table, but I'd rather not do that.11:04
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Xalhttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2478 this is the exact problem, afaik11:04
joe3kXal: ahh so you only don't see the partitions, i see now11:04
Xalyeah11:05
joe3kXal: in the ticket it reads setup doesn't detect the disk11:05
Xalor it's close. I see the drive, but no partitions. I've tried 6.06 and 6.1011:05
XalYeah, misread that :p11:05
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XalAh right, there's an error it comes up with:11:05
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takerhello11:06
takertest test11:06
Xalcritical error during ped_disk_new11:06
takerseems to work ;-)11:06
joe3kXal: well you could check your dmesg but not sure it'd help11:06
joe3kXal: console?11:06
XalThat's in setup in the partitioning stage.11:07
takeranyone able to read what I write?11:07
ExitMenuhello, I am doing a kubutu install and once I have done it I plan to install some other packages and some things not in the package managment system. I was wondering if anyone could recomed anysoftware to make and image of my install or a way I could make my own installer for my setup so the rest of the people I work with can use it as a base install11:07
Xaltaker: no11:07
XalExitMenu there is something in the Kubuntu docs... I'll see if I can find the page11:07
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takerXal: Oh Thanks! It is my first time in chat.11:08
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Xalhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization11:08
ExitMenuta11:08
XalI'm just kidding11:08
Xallol11:08
joe3kXal: looks like a bug11:08
XalI've installed Linux on this drive and controller before, though.11:08
XalWith 6.0611:08
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joe3kehm and now it doesn't work with 6.06 anymore?11:08
Xaland now not even 6.06 works.11:08
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joe3khuh11:09
ZarephathCan't find this with apt-cache anyone help? checking for PIXBUF... configure: error: Package requirements (gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.1.2) were not met:11:09
micheleupgraded 6.06 to 6.10, can't log into kde from kdm anymore, any idea11:09
XalI got rid of 6.06 so that I could install 6.10 fresh. My previous 6.06 installation read the disks fine, and it installed fine originally.11:09
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joe3kboth look like a broken upgrade11:09
ZarephathDid you try to dist-upgrade?11:10
joe3kXal: should have tried to upgrade ;-) now you'd be asking questions like michele does ;-)11:10
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Xaljoe3k: I did upgrade11:10
ZarephathKnown problems with that method11:10
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XalIt didn't work well.11:10
michele:op11:10
joe3ki had as well but eventuelly managed to get it working11:11
XalI'm alright with Linux. I'm just not good at fixing problems like this.11:11
XalWhen things that should work dont11:11
jhondoeXal i don't like 6.1011:11
jhondoe6.06's better11:11
joe3kthough i had still some dapper packages in edgy then which were breaking installation of some other edgy packages11:11
Varjat_byIs anybody try to confugure Samba server with standart KDE utility? For examle I a member of workgroup.. Is it possible to tell this information to Samba through KDE System Settinf tool?11:11
micheleyou all suggest a fresh install?11:11
BluesKajGoogle Earth core is constantly refreshing itself ...very irritating..anyone know a fix ?11:11
Xaljhondoe: and right now I cannot install either version.11:11
ZarephathIndeed..fresh is best11:11
joe3kmichele: well11:12
joe3kmichele: i suppose you tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:12
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micheleyep11:12
XalI had a few problems with 6.10 on my other computer.11:12
joe3kmichele: and did it work?11:12
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michelesure11:12
XalThe default xorg install is broken.11:12
micheleno problems11:12
ijacek!cz11:12
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.11:12
joe3kmichele: ok than there's something wrong11:12
micheleI can log into gnome from kdm no problem11:12
joe3kmichele: :)11:12
XalWell, I guess I'll clear the partition table and try again.11:12
Xalah well :(11:13
micheleAAHHH11:13
joe3kXal: sorry i couldn't help11:13
michelenp11:13
Xalno prob11:13
joe3kXal: good lock anyway11:13
XalI don't have anything really important on there.11:13
XalThanks ^^11:13
micheleI was really hoping it would work ok this time11:13
Xalokay..11:14
XalThis is strange.11:14
joe3kmichele: can you try to start kde manually?11:14
XalIt didn't show any partitions, but when I pressed next... it shows my partitons as possible mount points11:14
XaloO11:14
michelethat didn't work. startkde does nothing11:14
joe3kmichele: some error msg?11:14
michelenope11:14
micheleas far as I remember11:15
joe3kmichele: dpkg -l "kde*" and check versions?11:15
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joe3kmichele: apt-get --reinstall every kde package? ... just generating ideas :)11:15
michelemost versions on 3.5.5, but I have a few None11:16
michelealso stuff I see on the Read More of kubuntu 6.10 isn't there11:16
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ijaceki have kubuntu6.10 :)11:17
joe3kmichele: what read more? don't know it ...11:17
michelesec11:17
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michelehttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php11:17
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joe3kmichele: btw i hope you tried startkde only after X11:17
Xaljoe3k: booting into 6.10 live CD now. This might just work11:18
micheledoh?11:18
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XalThis is still strange though.11:18
michelestartx and then startkde?11:18
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michelesorry don't understand11:18
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michelestartx puts me on a desktop already11:19
joe3kmichele: sorry I meant X && startkde11:19
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joe3kmichele: you need an X display to run startkde I think11:19
micheleah, no11:19
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micheleI went startkde from the console11:19
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joe3kmichele: hm not 100% sure with the correct order11:19
joe3kmichele: but i'd try stop kdm, then X & and when X starts, then startkde11:20
moj0risingI installed ubuntu with hardware raid 1 and it will not boot -- disk not found. Does anyone have any ideas/ know where I can find a solution?11:20
michelewill try that11:20
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michelefound the startkde error11:20
michelehttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php11:20
moj0risingI have checked the forums and can't find what I'm looking for.11:20
michelesorry /home/michele/.kde/env/start-gpg-agent.sh: 2: Syntax error: Bad fd number11:21
alucard9hello11:21
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joe3kmichele: start-gpg-agent hm ....11:22
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michelelooks like a leftover11:22
michelefrom previous installation?11:22
joe3kmichele: possible11:22
micheleshould I delete my .kde?11:22
micheleand try again?11:22
joe3kmichele: noooo11:22
micheleok11:22
joe3kmichele: if you're ok loosing all your settings you might try11:23
joe3kmichele: but you can try mv .kde .kde.old11:23
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micheleI knew that, but last straws11:23
micheleyeah11:23
snikkeri've add a command with no password in /etc/sudoers but doesn't work, why?11:23
michelemove better11:23
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Armagguedeshellus11:23
joe3kmichele: i used once the gpg stuff but now i don't have the file you mention11:24
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Armagguedescan someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?11:24
sledge_at_workbeagle11:24
joe3ksnikker: used visudo?11:24
sledge_at_work(That's the only one I know of.)11:24
snikkerjoe3k: yes11:25
joe3ksnikker: can you paste the line?11:25
snikkerjoe3k: snikker ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter11:26
seraphangelwhats the command for formating to ext3?11:26
micheleI try your suggestions. Thanks a lot11:26
sledge_at_workseraphangel: mkfs -t ext311:27
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seraphangelwould ext3 or resiserfs be better to use?11:28
joe3ksnikker: and sudo /usr/bin/firestarter doesn't work, right?11:29
snikkerjoe3k: yes, doesn't work... it ask me the password...11:29
joe3kseraphangel: i'd stick with ext311:30
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joe3ksnikker: can you pastebin your /etc/sudoers plz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:31
joe3ksnikker: i've no idea though but i'll see what i can do11:32
snikkerjoe3k: ok, just a moment...11:32
seraphangelin fstab what is the 2 2 at the end mean? kernal 2.4 it was 1 111:32
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joe3kseraphangel: the last one is the order in which it gets checked11:33
snikkerjoe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32423/11:33
joe3kseraphangel: man fstab, the 5th has something to do with dump11:34
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Admiral_Chicagohow do i install flash11:36
Admiral_Chicago?11:36
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OliHow can I show the Konqueror sidebar?11:38
tamacrackerDoes anyone have that application that fetches gmail11:38
joe3ksnikker: well ... not sure11:38
tamacrackerby clicking the taskbar icon?11:38
joe3ksnikker: specifying commands separately doesn't work for me either, we're doing something wrong here11:39
Olithere's a sidebar which has amaroK, files and favorites11:39
joe3ksnikker: but ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL works for me :)11:39
Admiral_Chicago!flash11:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:39
Oliit's there in some Konqueror profiles but not all.11:39
bot12gb#kubuntu-es11:39
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TheGateKeeper!flash911:40
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html11:40
TheGateKeeperAdmiral_Chicago, ^^^^11:40
Legion!DRM11:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:41
tamacrackerdoes anyone know the adept file that fetches gmail?11:42
OliHow can I show the Konqueror sidebar? It's a sidebar which has amaroK, files and favorites, it's there in some Konqueror profiles but not all.11:42
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snikkerjoe3k: yes, maybe we're doing something wrong... but i don't understand what... anyway, thnks for support :)11:42
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Armagguedescan someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?11:43
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LegionI've downloaded the Kubuntu Desktop CD11:43
Legionwill that work as a live CD aswell?11:43
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XalYes11:44
joe3kXal: worked?11:44
XalNo11:44
XalI just cleared the partition table.11:44
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joe3kok11:44
XalIt still claimed that I didn't edit anything, so I gave up.11:44
jagerso is sun java in the repositories?  which one?11:44
joe3k:-/11:44
joe3kgotta go now, bye11:44
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tamacrackerDoes anyone know about the universe list?11:49
Tm_T!universe11:49
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:49
Tm_T;)11:49
tamacrackerthanks :)11:49
awzcan anybody help me with installing the linux verstion of quake 3 arena11:50
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scott_w|lappyawz: google quake 3 linux11:51
awzi have the file11:51
scott_w|lappythere's a guide somewhere on the internet11:51
awzits a .zip file11:51
awzand i unzipped it according to the guide11:51
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scott_w|lappythe guide knows all and sees all11:51
scott_w|lappy;)11:51
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awznow i have a .gz.sh file, but when i click on it, or try to run through the shell, there is a waiting icon, then nothing happens11:52
bartekHI!11:52
awzand11:52
awzwhen i use the konsole i get an error message11:52
awzand i've googled the error message, but no luck for 2 days11:52
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:52
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:52
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:52
awzand i just now realised i could use an irc client to find help lol11:53
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barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:53
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barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:55
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:55
barteki have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/11:55
bartekcan enobidy help me??11:55
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BluesKajbartek , do you have amarok installed?11:57
Alter-Egohow do i upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu ?11:57
BluesKajbartek: install amarok11:57
BluesKaj!install11:57
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:57
TheGateKeeperAlter-Ego, install kubuntu-desktop11:58
BluesKaj!kubuntu11:58
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE11:58
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Alter-Egoafter installation, will gnome still be there ?11:59
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TheGateKeeperyes11:59
Alter-Egobut i should be able to remove it right ?11:59
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TheGateKeeperyou will be able to decide which desktop you want to use11:59
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TheGateKeeperAlter-Ego, you can not install or uninstall on a livecd12:00
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TheGateKeeperunless you chroot onto your hdd that is12:01
Alter-Egosure you can, i install programs on livecd version all the time12:01
Alter-Egogranted, when you shut down, poof they are gone12:01
Alter-Egobut i am experimenting12:01
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TheGateKeeperdownload kubuntu livecd then12:02
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Xal2I wonder if I should try Gentoo again.12:03
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Armagguedescan someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?12:04
Xal2google desktop?12:04
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brett_Is the source code availible for all the games that kubuntu lets you install through add/remove programs?12:04
ArmagguedesXal2, beagle and so on12:05
Xal2Hmm, never thought of a use for something like it.12:05
Xal2I use locate.12:05
TheGateKeeperbrett_, if it's an open source game then yes12:05
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brett_TheGateKeeper: where can i find the source code if it is? i am interested in the konquest game12:06
awzi have an error tryin