[12:14] <BluesKaj> still splittsville or has the server finally settled down ?
[12:22] <mrobbert> I'm having some troubles with the syncing a Palm OS device with kpilot, anybody around that can  help me out?
[12:22] <T3hWiz0rd> I just know how to sync windows mobile to linux
[12:22] <fdoving> mrobbert: kpilot on edgy?
[12:23] <mrobbert> Yes, on Edgy
[12:24] <fdoving> i've heard roumors kpilot in edgy is broken.. hang on, i'll check.
[12:24] <mrobbert> Really?
[12:24] <alyssa> is there a reason why everything in Adept is grayed out?
[12:24] <alyssa> it's f'n killing me
[12:25] <mrobbert> It does sync, I'm just not seeing the todo's and appointments on the Palm.
[12:26] <mrobbert> alyssa: Can you do an apt-get update from the command line without any errors? (Need to run as root or with sudo)
[12:27] <alyssa> checking
[12:28] <alyssa> mrobbert: yes, that seems to work
[12:28] <knapp> Is it possible to make just one panel transparent?
[12:28] <alyssa> so why not via the GUI
[12:28] <alyssa> ?
[12:29] <mrobbert> alyssa: So you see all the packages, but you can't select them for install?
[12:29] <alyssa> right
[12:30] <alyssa> I should try now...maybe the not having the package list was what was causing the problem?
[12:30] <alyssa> ...of course it will take a bit since I did apt-get firefox and a bunch of other crap
[12:30] <foxhound31> need help with apt but i wait till after alyssa
[12:31] <alyssa> lol, might as well go ahead and ask ;-)
[12:31] <foxhound31> put a duff url in as a repository now it wont start
[12:31] <foxhound31> thank you alyssa
[12:31] <foxhound31> :)
[12:31] <foxhound31> very kind of you
[12:32] <mrobbert> foxhound31: What exactly won't start? Where did you put in the bad URL?
[12:32] <foxhound31> wait
[12:32] <foxhound31> sorry
[12:32] <foxhound31> adept wont start
[12:33] <foxhound31> i put the url in at the top where you give links for repositorys
[12:33] <foxhound31> i add link
[12:33] <foxhound31> ie add link
[12:33] <foxhound31> its not idiot proof is it
[12:33] <foxhound31> not much error trapping
[12:34] <KUBEuntu> hey guys can I have a little help
[12:34] <mrobbert> foxhound31: I don't see a place to add a repository in adept. The only text input is a search bar
[12:34] <foxhound31> its the next screen
[12:34] <foxhound31> wait i'll find it in google images
[12:35] <KUBEuntu> it's 'bout Kubuntu 6.10 and some dual-view experiments and problems
[12:36] <foxhound31> no cant
[12:36] <mrobbert> KUBEuntu: Do you mean multiple monitors? It has been awhile since I've had multiple monitors to play with and when I did I never got it working.
[12:36] <alyssa> mrobbert: that was it.  Apparently something wasn't working but running apt manually has the adept GUI working now
[12:36] <alyssa> thx for your help ;-)
[12:37] <_yyoman_> browsing the samba network ask me to login into the workgroup, which always fails, but connecting samba to shares works, any quick answers? :)
[12:38] <mrobbert> foxhound31: Sorry for being a little clueless, I don't use adept all that much, but I don't see any second screen.
[12:38] <foxhound31> i cant remeber exactley which tab bringsit up
[12:38] <foxhound31> unfortunatley
[12:38] <foxhound31> try under adept
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: yes, PM them to me, i'm going to dinner
[12:39] <KUBEuntu> can someone help with a problematic Kubuntu startup after a dual-monitor 'experiment'?
[12:39] <foxhound31> i can still install using apt though
[12:39] <foxhound31> if i knew how
[12:39] <mrobbert> foxhound31: I only see "quit" under the adept menu
[12:39] <foxhound31> maybe differnet versions
[12:40] <fdoving> mrobbert: related to kpilot: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=394534
[12:40] <foxhound31> mrobbbert
[12:41] <foxhound31> in order for adept to work it has a list of repositories
[12:41] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: what is pm...?
[12:41] <foxhound31> and there is a screen which shows the links to those repositories
[12:41] <foxhound31> but i assume its in and ini file
[12:41] <foxhound31> so if i can just find the damn thing i can kill it
[12:42] <foxhound31> that might be my best plan
[12:42] <knapp> Is it possible to make just one panel transparent?
[12:42] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: I know all of them are not bugs, but I just keep them together
[12:43] <Cuddles_in_KY> evening all.
[12:43] <mrobbert> foxhound31: I assumed that adept worked off the sources.list along with some possible other files for organization and such, but I don't see anywhere to add repositories. If you added a repo then it should be in /etc/apt/sources.list. Is it there?
[12:44] <foxhound31> i'll have a look
[12:44] <mrobbert> fdoving: Thanks for looking that up. I just switched to kpilot because gnome-pilot was crashing my device (A Sony clie)
[12:44] <Cuddles_in_KY> small problem here. i'm trying to add a printer to my system, but when i go to the backend selection in the add printer wizard, the option ''local printer'' is greyed out. any way to fix this?
[12:45] <foxhound31> what i get is the database is corupt
[12:45] <foxhound31> as well
[12:45] <fdoving> mrobbert: if you don't experience the problem described in the bugreport it's not a problem. I just heard someone say 'data loss', and wanted to warn you.
[12:45] <bot12gb> algun espaol please?
[12:46] <fdoving> !es
[12:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:46] <mrobbert> fdoving: My problem is data loss on the Palm, but the data is still there in kpim. I'll have to read the whole report later.
[12:46] <mrobbert> foxhound: What do you do that gives you the database corupt error?
[12:46] <fdoving> mrobbert: ok,please do. I don't have a palm, so I can't test nor verify.
[12:47] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone?
[12:48] <foxhound31> mrobbert: your a star
[12:48] <foxhound31> found it and deleted just going to see if it start now
[12:49] <foxhound31> yeah but need to run as sudo to change it grrr
[12:49] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: Where are you in the system exactly?
[12:50] <Cuddles_in_KY> system settings - printers - add printer
[12:50] <Cuddles_in_KY> backend selection
[12:52] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: OK, got it! Is your printer plugged in and turned on? How is it connected?
[12:53] <Cuddles_in_KY> plugged in, turned on, parallel.
[12:53] <Cuddles_in_KY> there's already one other printer added, but it's a network printer.
[12:54] <aziz> evening
[12:56] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: I'm not an expert on this, but lets see if we can figure anything out
[12:56] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: Are you running Edgy Kubuntu?
[12:57] <Cuddles_in_KY> yes mrobbert.
[12:57] <aziz> hey, can someone help me out with mounting smb shares in fstab?
[12:57] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: Try this command: lsmod | grep par
[12:57] <mrobbert> You should see two lines: parport_pc and parport
[12:58] <Cuddles_in_KY> nope, just 1. parport
[12:59] <campbch> does anyone know how to use dvdrip? i cant get it to transcode
[12:59] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: Are you on a PC? (386,486, or Pentium)
[12:59] <Cuddles_in_KY> mrobbert, yes. p4.
[01:00] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: OK, let try loading the other one with: sudo modprobe parport_pc
[01:00] <Cuddles_in_KY> loaded.
[01:01] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: Try closing the print wizard and loading again. Any change?
[01:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> yes, it's lit up now. ;]  thanks.
[01:02] <mrobbert> Cuddles_in_KY: Great, now I'm  just curios why it wasn't there to start with. If it doesn't come back after a reboot you'll probably want to come back and ask for some help with that.
[01:03] <Cuddles_in_KY> okies, thanks.
[01:03] <Cuddles_in_KY> i usually don't reboot unless there's a major power failure though. ;] 
[01:03] <foxhound31> mrobbert: thank you
[01:03] <foxhound31> use a terminal and as root with vi i took out the bad line and it started again
[01:04] <foxhound31> so
[01:04] <foxhound31> if you get anyone who makes the same mistake
[01:04] <foxhound31> its fine the sources list
[01:04] <foxhound31> use a terminal as root and edit it out the bad line with a text editior
[01:05] <jmichaelx> hs anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get it to work in kubuntu edgy, though it workied fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[01:05] <foxhound31> find not fine
[01:05] <foxhound31> anyway thanks for the help see you again
[01:08] <maryen> hey guys
[01:08] <maryen> got a quick question
[01:09] <maryen> poke?
[01:09] <campbch> don't ask to ask, just ask :D
[01:09] <maryen> k
[01:09] <campbch> here it comes...
[01:09] <maryen> is it healthy to routinely kill applications with the killall command
[01:10] <campbch> unhealthier, because they may or may not close themselves like they should
[01:10] <campbch> how unhealthy really depends
[01:10] <maryen> how would i tell said applications to close naturally?
[01:10] <campbch> it's like... unplugging your computer
[01:11] <maryen> in the command line
[01:11] <campbch> if they dont have a quit option, its probably not a problem
[01:11] <maryen> im writing a shell script
[01:11] <Hawkwind> killall is routinely safe. It's kill -9 that you want to avoid
[01:11] <campbch> hmm...
[01:11] <campbch> alrighty what he said :D
[01:11] <maryen> ok
[01:11] <campbch> !killall
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about killall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Hawkwind> maryen: Best to kill by pid# if at all possible though
[01:11] <Legion> I'm currently using windows but would like to start using Linux. I'm a little confused when it comes to the choice between Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Any suggestions?
[01:11] <maryen> im using a script to kill artsd so an OSS program can use my soundcard
[01:12] <Hawkwind> Legion: Ubuntu is Gnome based, Kubuntu is KDE based
[01:12] <campbch> you're asking in a kubuntu board, what are we going to tell you :p
[01:12] <maryen> the script also starts the program so its sort of a frontend
[01:12] <hollywoodb> Legion: from what I understand Windows users generally feel KDE to be more familiar, but Gnome also focuses on simplicity and useability... you can have both on an ubuntu system as well if you'd like to experiment some
[01:12] <Ricardo_Colombia> Hi
[01:13] <Ricardo_Colombia> Can somebody tell me where is gPhoto?
[01:13] <maryen> but regardless of what hollywoodb says, kubuntu is better
[01:13] <Hawkwind> !info gphoto
[01:13] <ubotu> Package gphoto does not exist in any distro I know
[01:13] <Legion> so far my reasearch has lead me to this "Kubuntu looks better"
[01:13] <Legion> and that's about it :P
[01:13] <fdoving> !info gphoto2
[01:13] <ubotu> gphoto2: The gphoto2 digital camera command-line client. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.2.0-3 (edgy), package size 182 kB, installed size 928 kB
[01:14] <maryen> kubuntu is also far easier to customize, while gnome is simpler
[01:14] <Hawkwind> fdoving: Thanks.  Just found that via apt-cache search :)
[01:14] <Ricardo_Colombia> fdoving I have downloaded gPhoto but I don't know where is it in the menu???
[01:14] <Hawkwind> Ricardo_Colombia: How did you install it ?
[01:14] <fdoving> nite.
[01:15] <Hawkwind> fdoving: Sleep well
[01:15] <maryen> nite sir doving
[01:15] <fdoving> Ricardo_Colombia: hawkwind will help you if you're nice to him :)
[01:15] <Hawkwind> Hah
[01:15] <Hawkwind> But you have to make the paypal donation *first* :)
[01:15] <Hawkwind> Ricardo_Colombia: Did you install it by doing sudo apt-get install gphoto2 ?
[01:16] <Ricardo_Colombia> No, I used Kynoptic
[01:16] <Legion> does the choice of KDE opposed to Gnome have any influence on the programs I can use?
[01:16] <hollywoodb> Legion: none at all
[01:16] <Hawkwind> Ricardo_Colombia: You really should get it from the repos.  sudo apt-get install gphoto2  will install it and put it in the menus for you
[01:17] <Ricardo_Colombia> Hawkwind gPhoto is a command line software?
[01:17] <Legion> So bottom line is pretty much that the choice is between simplicity and the ability to tweak EVERYTHING in the GUI?
[01:18] <Hawkwind> Ricardo_Colombia: Yes it is
[01:18] <Hawkwind> Ricardo_Colombia: Are you wanting something that is GUI ?  If so, try digikam
[01:18] <maryen> hawkwind, do you happen to know of a cleaner way to kill the arts daemon
[01:18] <maryen> ?
[01:19] <Hawkwind> maryen: By using ps aux | grep arts and killing the PID#'s
[01:20] <kosh> well my new install works just fine :)
[01:21] <Legion> I think I've made my peace with which I am going to use. I've always been a great fan of making stuff look the way I want it. Kubuntu, here I come! Thanks to everybody who have answered my questions :)
[01:21] <maryen> ok have fun legion
[01:22] <Legion> now there's just the whole "Buy a new comp"-stuff to take care of hehe
[01:22] <hollywoodb> Legion: what have you got now?
[01:23] <Legion> a Packard Bell Easynote with a 2.4GHz P4 and 256 RAM
[01:23] <hollywoodb> Legion: that'll do fine ;)
[01:23] <kosh> pretty low on memory for a p4 that fast
[01:24] <kosh> adding more memory would really make the whole system faster
[01:24] <Legion> It's one I've borrowed after my old comp snuffed it
[01:28] <james_> hello i have a question about fstab
[01:29] <kosh> so what is the question?
[01:29] <Legion> I've fallen in love with this little beauty http://www.edbpriser.dk/Products/Listprices.asp?ID=203966 (The site is in Danish, but with the geeklevel in here, that shouldn't be too much of a problem)
[01:30] <kosh> heh you should see what I just setup :)
[01:30] <james_> i already received help once from someone here so here goes the line in fstab for my dvd drive reads thus /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,uid=1000,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[01:31] <james_> the problem was that because the data dvd was burned as root i could not access the files as user
[01:31] <kosh> ah I see
[01:31] <kosh> so permissions where written to the dvd I guess
[01:31] <kosh> so what is the problem now?
[01:32] <james_> so they suggested i add uid=1000 and this works for dvds but when i went to put in a regular cd when it mount i can't see files as user krusader loads them in root mode help please
[01:33] <kosh> hmm
[01:33] <james_> u c the diff right?
[01:34] <james_> is it a different file system is that why?
[01:34] <os2mac> has anyone made any progress on getting a BCM4350 to work on kubuntu Edgy?
[01:35] <hollywoodb> os2mac: the bcm43xx module doesn't work?
[01:35] <kosh> jdfellow: I am thinking about why it would not work
[01:36] <os2mac> not on my machine.. I am getting the access point invalid error
[01:36] <kosh> jdfellow: use setuid instead of uid and see if that works
[01:36] <jdfellow> i could try a different cd it show permissions for the cd as user:root but uid=1000 should fix it yes
[01:37] <hollywoodb> os2mac: oh, I see... I guess I'm not too familiar with it, I knew there was a bcm43xx module so I figured it worked ;)  have you checked out the forums on it?
[01:37] <Max_-> how do I clear what is in the GRUB settings... cauze I tried to make it boot hd0,0 and it still try to boot hd0,1 ...  don't understand that.. any command to reset grub and start over?
[01:37] <jdfellow> well uid works for the dvd so it works just not for the cd
[01:37] <kosh> uid just changes the permission of the root of the device, setuid does it for all of the device
[01:37] <hollywoodb> Max_-: what file did you edit?
[01:37] <kosh> try it and it should work for both
[01:37] <jdfellow> ok will do thanks
[01:38] <Max_-> hollywoodb used the grub command with the livecd
[01:38] <hollywoodb> Max_-: so you're trying to edit the settings on an installed system or the livecd?
[01:38] <Ricardo_Colombia> how to star digikam?
[01:40] <Max_-> hollywoodb, a winxp cd cleared the mbr.. so I tried to make it work again.. but I guess I entered the wrong thing at first (hd0,1) now I need to modify it for hd0,0
[01:40] <Max_-> so, yes its on an existing system
[01:40] <hollywoodb> Max_-: just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst on the installation... grub reads that everytime it loads
[01:40] <sdlnxgk> Afternoon All !!!
[01:40] <jdfellow> nope that did not work any other suggestions from anyone else
[01:41] <jdfellow> ????
[01:41] <sdlnxgk> anyone know if you can create an ISO with k3b??
[01:41] <hollywoodb> Max_-: assuming grub is reinstalled correctly
[01:41] <Max_-> hollywoodb, okay, I try this.. thanks
[01:42] <Jucato> !grub
[01:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:42] <Ricardo_Colombia> How to install Digikam?
[01:43] <sdlnxgk> !k3b
[01:43] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:43] <dheeraj> test
[01:43] <hollywoodb> Jucato: that's the exact link I was looking for :P  I forgot about ubotu
[01:44] <dheeraj> hi apt is not working wat to do?
[01:44] <Jucato> hollywoodb: :)
[01:44] <Ricardo_Colombia> !shell
[01:44] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:44] <Ricardo_Colombia> !windows
[01:44] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:44] <Ricardo_Colombia> !Microsoft
[01:44] <sdlnxgk> dheeraj what are the error messages??
[01:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in kubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[01:45] <Ricardo_Colombia> !Firefox
[01:45] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:45] <Jucato> !botabuse | Ricardo_Colombia
[01:45] <ubotu> Ricardo_Colombia: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[01:45] <dheeraj> it is giving error command not found
[01:46] <dheeraj> i typed this command apt-get update
[01:46] <sdlnxgk> where you logged in as root?
[01:46] <jdfellow> anyone game  for a quick question?
[01:47] <dheeraj> yeah
[01:47] <sdlnxgk> jdfellow used to game till cedega had issues
[01:47] <sdlnxgk> dheeraj post the error message if not too  long here
[01:48] <jdfellow> how do i verify that my cdrom is set for the fastest read possible when i used to run knoppix on hard drive i had to manually configure optimal settings?
[01:48] <sdlnxgk> dheeraj something liket his ???
[01:48] <sdlnxgk> Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[01:48] <sdlnxgk>   404 Not Found
[01:48] <sdlnxgk> Fetched 7B in 1s (4B/s)
[01:48] <sdlnxgk> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packates/koffice-latest/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[01:48] <sdlnxgk> Reading package lists... Done
[01:48] <sdlnxgk> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:49] <jmichaelx> packates?
[01:49] <jdfellow> hello dheeraj you still here?
[01:49] <dheeraj> no it is showing
[01:49] <dheeraj> apt-get update
[01:49] <dheeraj> Reading package lists... Done
[01:49] <dheeraj> but no update
[01:49] <Jucato> !pastebin
[01:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:49] <dheeraj> i just installed kubuntu
[01:50] <sdlnxgk> dheeraj that means it checked the package list and is done
[01:50] <dheeraj> but no update?
[01:50] <sdlnxgk> for  update you have to do apt-get upgrade or  apt-get  dist-upgrade
[01:50] <sdlnxgk> try using Adept you might like it better  with a GUI front ;)
[01:51] <BluDog_Anchorite> pardon the interuption, but does anyone have a link to a how-to for a tftp server in ubuntu ?
[01:51] <dheeraj> it is still showing no update
[01:51] <sdlnxgk> !tftp
[01:51] <ubotu> tftp: Trivial file transfer protocol client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-15 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:52] <BluDog_Anchorite> i have the package installed.  i need config help
[01:52] <os2mac> hollywoodb I have been through all the trouble shooting and can see the AP in the wifi assistant but when I try to connect I get connection failed and if I look in iwconfig I get access point invalid.
[01:52] <sdlnxgk> let me see what I can find never installed  it so I not sure about it
[01:52] <Legion> That's a pretty cool bot :)
[01:52] <BluDog_Anchorite> i did a regular ftp today
[01:54] <dheeraj> at last i fixed it
[01:55] <UnDeR|CoVeR> hello everyone!
[01:55] <dheeraj> those update link was blocked by #
[01:55] <dheeraj> on sources.list
[01:56] <sdlnxgk> BluDog_Anchorite try this * UnDeR|CoVeR_ is now known as UnDeR|CoVeR
[01:56] <sdlnxgk> * jmichaelx has quit (Remote closed the connection)
 hello everyone!
 those update link was blocked by #
[01:56] <dheeraj>  <sdlnxgk>: thanx for ur support :)
[01:56] <sdlnxgk> opps what the hell was  that
[01:56] <sdlnxgk> dheeraj you get it all working?
[01:57] <sdlnxgk> http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch04s04.html#dhcpd
[01:57] <dheeraj> yeah :)
[01:57] <sdlnxgk> BluDog_Anchorite try that link
[01:57] <sdlnxgk> dheeraj your welcome ;)
[01:57] <UnDeR|CoVeR> ok i need some help with my kubuntu
[01:58] <UnDeR|CoVeR> (new user here...)
[01:58] <Legion> !ipod
[01:58] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[01:59] <sdlnxgk> UnDeR|CoVeR what problem are you having?
[01:59] <UnDeR|CoVeR> well i just installed ver6.06 of kubuntu
[02:00] <UnDeR|CoVeR> and i saw some vids on xgl interfaces and want to do this
[02:00] <hollywoodb> os2mac: are you using kwifiassistant? I've heard that's it somewhat broken in edgy but don't know the specifics... can you get it working just using iwconfig?
[02:00] <UnDeR|CoVeR> i have a nvidia vga card
[02:00] <jdfellow> hello anyone have any idea why my dvdrom drive seems to be reading slowly dma is set to one?
[02:01] <kosh> jdfellow: what drive is your dvdrom drive? ie /dev/whatever?
[02:01] <sdlnxgk> UnDeR|CoVeR when you update your kubuntu should find nvidia card drivers automatic and update them atleast on my nvidia  card it did
[02:02] <jdfellow> i get an error with hdparm that says "HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device "
[02:02] <UnDeR|CoVeR> also i have a problem with installing things.... i downloaded firefox-2.0.tar.gz and the adept program doesn't let me choose to instal it
[02:02] <kosh> kubuntu did not find the drivers for my nvidia card, I had to go grab the latest beta drivers
[02:02] <jdfellow> otherwise the drive works fine
[02:02] <kosh> UnDeR|CoVeR: that is not how you install stuff, you don't need to download a .tar.gz at all, just use adept to install firefox
[02:02] <_PauloS_> Hi everibody
[02:03] <jdfellow> large files play slowly as they read off the drive
[02:03] <UnDeR|CoVeR> and how do i do that?
[02:03] <UnDeR|CoVeR> just type it ?
[02:03] <jdfellow> kosh it is on /dev/cdrom
[02:04] <kosh> jdfellow: can you put the output of hdarm -I /dev/cdrom  and hdparm /dev/cdrom in the paste bin?
[02:04] <sdlnxgk> UnDeR|CoVeR yes just type it if it is in the repository then it will show up and you can install it
[02:04] <kosh> UnDeR|CoVeR: just type firefox, it will find it and then you can tell it to install it
[02:04] <seishinbyou> 2 questions: How do I make a Live disc, and is there any alternative source to get more 3rd party apps, since I'm trying to fill a whole disc as much as I can
[02:04] <sdlnxgk> firefox should be default pretty much
[02:04] <_PauloS_> after upgranding to Edgy, KDE stoped working
[02:04] <jdfellow> what is the paste bin scuse my ignorance
[02:05] <UnDeR|CoVeR> ok it found it but it doesn't let me choose it
[02:05] <kosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:05] <jdfellow> IO_support   =  1 (32-bit)
[02:05] <jdfellow>  unmaskirq    =  1 (on)
[02:05] <jdfellow>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[02:05] <jdfellow>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
[02:05] <jdfellow>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[02:05] <jdfellow>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[02:05] <jdfellow>  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:05] <sdlnxgk> UnDeR|CoVeR I would use Adapt and run a full upgrade and see if that fixes  things for ya ;)
[02:05] <kosh> UnDeR|CoVeR: you just click the little arrow next to firefox and it opens up, inside there is an option for request install
[02:05] <UnDeR|CoVeR> let's hope
[02:05] <kosh> UnDeR|CoVeR: then just have it apply changes
[02:05] <kosh> jdfellow: don't paste it into the channel, that is why I have the url to the pastebin
[02:06] <UnDeR|CoVeR> sdlnxgk:  it has the firefox faded
[02:06] <UnDeR|CoVeR> not with regular fonts
[02:06] <UnDeR|CoVeR> i can't tick the box next to it
[02:06] <seishinbyou> apt-get install --fix-missing ?
[02:06] <_PauloS_> after upgranding to Edgy, KDE stoped working, somebody knows how can I fix it?
[02:07] <sdlnxgk> UnDeR|CoVeR that is why I said  do the upgrade first it might need a file first..
[02:07] <UnDeR|CoVeR> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:07] <jdfellow> i am i bad http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32236/
[02:08] <seishinbyou> Anyways, again, 2 questions: How do I make a Live disc?, and is there any alternative source to get more 3rd party apps, since I'm trying to fill a whole disc as much as I can?
[02:08] <sdlnxgk> hell even try apt-get install firefox
[02:08] <kosh> jdfellow: paste the rusults of the other command in there also hdparm -I /dev/cdrom
[02:08] <sdlnxgk> and it will  tell you if your missing files
[02:08] <kosh> seishinbyou: there are already live dvdroms that are full of stuff
[02:08] <seishinbyou> I'm talking Blu-ray
[02:09] <sdlnxgk> anyone use K3B to make  cd's???
[02:09] <kosh> sorry I don't know
[02:09] <kosh> yeah I use k3b to make cds and dvds
[02:09] <UnDeR|CoVeR> well te apt-get doesn't work for this...
[02:09] <_PauloS_> k3b rulez
[02:09] <sdlnxgk> kosh what about  to make an ISO image  from files?
[02:09] <UnDeR|CoVeR> :9
[02:09] <jdfellow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32237/
[02:10] <sdlnxgk> I don't seen an  option to make and ISO file
[02:10] <seishinbyou> sdlnxgk: When you go to "burn" choose "Make Image file only"
[02:10] <sdlnxgk> I know how to burn and ISO image but I want to create an ISO image
[02:10] <dheeraj> how to run mp3 file in amarok?
[02:10] <seishinbyou> sdlnxgk: That is how you make an ISO in k3b
[02:10] <sdlnxgk> seishinbyou will go look for that option
[02:10] <kosh> sdlnxgk: just have k3b make the iso for you like has been said
[02:11] <seishinbyou> sdlnxgk: I'll boot it up and check where it is
[02:11] <sdlnxgk> seishinbyou your the bomb dude !!!!! saw it before  but forgot where I saw that at ;)
[02:11] <kosh> jdfellow: everything looks okay, could you run hdparm -tT /dev/cdrom  ?
[02:11] <sdlnxgk> ISO is in the making :)
[02:12] <sdlnxgk> seishinbyou thanks  ;)
[02:12] <dheeraj> how to run mp3 file in amarok? any idea?
[02:12] <seishinbyou> No problem
[02:12] <kosh> dheeraj: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[02:13] <_PauloS_> after upgranding to Edgy, KDE stoped working, somebody knows how can I fix it?
[02:13] <_PauloS_> If I start X in failsafe mode, and then start kwin and kicker, Its Ok...
[02:14] <dheeraj> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[02:14] <kosh> _PauloS_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php  ready the Upgrading from 6.06 LTS
[02:14] <jdfellow> i must go in 5 min. appreciate any help thanks http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32238/
[02:14] <kosh> dheeraj: ah multiverse is not enabled just a sec
[02:15] <_PauloS_> kosh: will check the URL, thanks
[02:16] <campbch> what's lightning have to do with help :p
[02:16] <campbch> speaking of which, i broke scim again :'(
[02:16] <campbch> ill figure it out
[02:18] <kosh> dheeraj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  that should have everything you need, make sure you read the part about enabling universe and multiverse
[02:19] <dheeraj> thanx
[02:25] <dheeraj> is g++ available on kubuntu cd?
[02:29] <Jucato> dheeraj: no. you have to install it via apt-get (build-essential)
[02:30] <jdfellow> thanks for looking kosh gotto go unless ... maybe its the cache size in mplayer thats slowing things down
[02:30] <seishinbyou> Ah, dvd+rw-tools can handle blu-ray it seems.  I'll try a disc
[02:40] <fyrmedic> Greetings
[02:41] <DadanDoank> hi guys
[02:42] <DadanDoank> i've install kubuntu 6.10 everything looks ok, but my wireless card didn't work
[02:42] <DadanDoank> anyone can help me?
[02:44] <BonBonTheJon> DadanDoank: you need to install drivers
[02:45] <DadanDoank> how? sorry i'am newbie :)
[02:45] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know how to either change the size of the systemtray icons, or increase the size of the Mac OS-bar
[02:45] <BonBonTheJon> !wireless
[02:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:46] <BonBonTheJon> DadanDoank: you need to know the chipset
[02:47] <DadanDoank> wait i'll look at my wireless usb card
[02:48] <DadanDoank> i use SMC EZ Connect 802.11g wireless USB 2.0 adapter
[02:49] <BonBonTheJon> DadanDoank: do you have the card plugged in
[02:50] <DadanDoank> model: smc2862w-G, ic:4711A-WN4501G3, sory i'm not use card but usb wireless adapter
[02:50] <BonBonTheJon> DadanDoank: yeah, is it plugged in
[02:51] <DadanDoank> yup
[02:51] <fyrmedic> anyone know of a good link with detailed instructions on setting up a network server/router/gateway with Kubuntu?
[02:51] <BonBonTheJon> DadanDoank: ok, open Konsole and run lsusb
[02:51] <DadanDoank> !router
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: is the kubuntu going to be the router?
[02:52] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: for the server google for "ubuntu dapper isp", they have a good page
[02:53] <fyrmedic> BonBonThejon: yes, it will be the router, the gateway, firewall, proxy. the works
[02:53] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: my suggestion is to not install any GUI, just use Ubuntu server
[02:53] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: that will help with Apache, PHP, MySQL
[02:54] <wasp_ems> hello i am trying to send files from kubuntu to xubuntu through kopete but it does not work..the process stays at 0% anyone can help?
[02:54] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: the Ubuntu ISP page tells how to set up spme other server stuff
[02:54] <Zaire> anyone heard of a cox.net isp?
[02:55] <fyrmedic> Ok thanx I will google the hell out of it.
[02:55] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: it should be one of the first pages, its like howto forge
[02:55] <BonBonTheJon> wasp_ems: why not use samba or nfs
[02:57] <BonBonTheJon> DadanDoank: did you run lsusb
[02:57] <DadanLieur> wait
[02:57] <Zaire> is there anyway to change the vsftpd port ?....ppl keep trying to brute force my ftp and its taking up megs of logs space
[02:58] <sdlnxgk> !CHECKSUM
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about CHECKSUM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <sdlnxgk> !chksum
[02:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:58] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: probably in the config file, or I have it so only specific users (except root) can log in
[02:58] <Zaire> same here but ppl keep trying
[02:58] <sdlnxgk> dammit forgot how to check cd ISO
[02:59] <DadanLieur> BonBonTheJon i've run lsusb
[02:59] <BonBonTheJon> sdlnxgk: if you have a lot of things to ask ubotu, then PM it
[02:59] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: are you DadanDoank
[03:00] <DadanLieur> it's show something like Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1260:ee22
[03:00] <DadanLieur> yup
[03:00] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: set up a firewall to block the addresses bruteforcing
[03:00] <sdlnxgk> BonBonTheJon nope only forgot how to use something but i'll figure it out ;)
[03:00] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: is that the only entry
[03:00] <DadanLieur> i'm online with my laptop and my desktop
[03:00] <Zaire> it would be easier to change the default to something else so they have nothing to pickup on
[03:00] <BonBonTheJon> sdlnxgk: ok, just didn't want too much spam
[03:01] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: yeah
[03:01] <DadanLieur> no, but the other output is just 0000000
[03:01] <sdlnxgk> BonBonTheJon sorry about  that wasn't sure of spelling
[03:01] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: can you pastebin the result
[03:02] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin > DadanLieur
[03:02] <BonBonTheJon> sdlnxgk: its all good :)
[03:04] <DadanLieur> BonBonTheJon wait
[03:04] <bonggnu> hi, i cant play mp3 in amarok dapper for amd64
[03:04] <BonBonTheJon> bonggnu: amarok should ask to install mp3 support
[03:04] <bonggnu> in the instalation?
[03:04] <BonBonTheJon> bonggnu: no, when you run it and try to play an mp3
[03:05] <bonggnu> uhm
[03:05] <bonggnu> The void-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files
[03:05] <bonggnu> xine engine
[03:05] <BonBonTheJon> bonggnu: change to xine, and it should ask
[03:05] <bonggnu> i am using xine, is the only one choice available
[03:05] <BonBonTheJon> bonggnu: ok, xine needs libxine-extracodecs, i think
[03:05] <bonggnu> ok
[03:06] <BonBonTheJon> bonggnu: you will need universe or multiverse enabled
[03:06] <bonggnu> the system says tha libxine-extracodecs is installed
[03:06] <BonBonTheJon> bonggnu: try restarting amarok
[03:06] <bonggnu> ok i will doing now
[03:06] <Zaire> theres nothing I can see in the vsftpd.conf for changing the default port
[03:08] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[03:09] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: I'm guessing it defaults to 22, unless you change it, so that is why there is no entry
[03:11] <DadanLieur> BonBonTheJon i've do pastebin
[03:11] <DadanLieur> what next
[03:11] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: link?
[03:12] <DadanLieur> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32245/plain/
[03:13] <Zaire> ssh is 22 ftp is 21
[03:13] <BonBonTheJon> Zaire: my bad, I use ssh more than ftp
[03:13] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: thats all there was, no more text?
[03:13] <DadanLieur> yup
[03:13] <DadanLieur> no more
[03:14] <DadanLieur> is that something wrong
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: I was hoping it would give more info
[03:14] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: if you try lspci, it gives more info, I though lsusb would too
[03:15] <DadanLieur> :)
[03:15] <DadanLieur> what should i do
[03:15] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: hold on, I'm looking up something
[03:17] <DadanLieur> when i klik KInfoCenter in usb section, my wireless usb detect as 802.11g wireless usb adapter
[03:17] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: does it mention atheros or broadcom?
[03:18] <DadanLieur> no
[03:18] <DadanLieur> it's SMC
[03:19] <beefsprocket> anyone know what thisapache2 error is caused by? could not bind to address [::] :443
[03:19] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: see, SMC is the manufacturer, we need to know who made the chipset so we can install drivers
[03:20] <DadanLieur> model: smc2862w-G, ic:4711A-WN4501G3
[03:20] <BonBonTheJon> beefsprocket: port 443 is SSL, do you have it set up right
[03:20] <beefsprocket> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=SMC
[03:21] <beefsprocket> BonBonTheJon: apparently not
[03:21] <BonBonTheJon> beefsprocket: sorry, I dont use HTTPS/SSL much
[03:21] <beefsprocket> followed the wiki at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/server/apache2/SSL
[03:21] <SperMite> Anyone have a working smb.conf file i could bum? can't get mine to work
[03:22] <JuJuBee> How  do I add the "Home" button (The House) to my task bar?
[03:23] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: do you mean the system menu
[03:23] <DadanLieur> oh no, my card is unsuported
[03:23] <DadanLieur> :(
[03:23] <BonBonTheJon> SperMite: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-6.html
[03:24] <beefsprocket> DadanLieur: might work with ndiswrapper
[03:24] <DadanLieur> BonBonTheJon my card is atheros
[03:24] <JuJuBee> I mean the pannel at the bottom of the screen on the desktop
[03:24] <DadanLieur> beefsprocket how
[03:24] <unix_infidel> SperMite: you need what resources access?
[03:24] <DadanLieur> ndiswrapper: command not found
[03:25] <DadanLieur> :D
[03:25] <BonBonTheJon> !ndiswrapper
[03:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:25] <beefsprocket> DadanLieur: not sure,never used it, but ndiswrapper will let you use windows binary drivers in linux I think
[03:25] <SperMite> I just need to be able to log onto my linux box from windows
[03:25] <JuJuBee> BonBonTheJon : next to the K menu...
[03:25] <BonBonTheJon> SperMite: try swat
[03:25] <beefsprocket> SperMite: putty or cygwin then if you don't need samba
[03:26] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: I think you are refering to the system menu
[03:27] <JuJuBee> Not sure, in windows its called the quick launch bar.  Put commonly used icons there to launch programs.  When I installed kubutu before, it was there by default.
[03:27] <JuJuBee> Now its not.
[03:27] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[03:27] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: are you just wanting quick launch links
[03:28] <unix_infidel> SperMite: that's super ambiguous dude.
[03:28] <JuJuBee> yes I hate launching Konqueror to get to my home dir
[03:28] <unix_infidel> SperMite: what resources do you need access to, a remote desktop, disks, printers, VPN type access?
[03:28] <knapp> hey chaps, anyone know of a program that will let me edit WMA tags?
[03:29] <SperMite> unix_infidel disk
[03:29] <unix_infidel> SperMite: how big are these files?  I've found scp to be a MUCH better solution for on the spot infrequent transfers.
[03:30] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: you use konqueror to do file browsing
[03:30] <JuJuBee> Is that a ?
[03:30] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: no, its a fact, konqueror is a file browser and a web browser
[03:31] <SperMite> unix_infidel each files between, 700mb to 4gb the only purpose i have for wanting to use samba is to save disk space on my windows drive is because its limited
[03:31] <JuJuBee> I am aware of that.  I want a quick link to my home dir.
[03:31] <unix_infidel> SperMite: then try using smb4k
[03:31] <JuJuBee> I am interested in knowing how to put the "cute little house" back in the pannel
[03:32] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: looks like you just need to create a link with "konqueror ~" as the program
[03:32] <unix_infidel> SperMite: its a gui front end to samba, makes management a bit easier, if you feel like learning more, setting up samba properly is the best way, tldp has some really good docs on it.
[03:32] <JuJuBee> It used to be next to "Show Desktop"
[03:32] <unix_infidel> zbrown's website also has some insight on it.
[03:32] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: if you right click on the panel, and add the system menu applet, it allows quick access to the home dir
[03:33] <JuJuBee> I see, its an applet.
[03:34] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: is that what you wanted
[03:34] <JuJuBee> And there is the cute little house.
[03:34] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: :)
[03:34] <JuJuBee> That house used to be in the pannel.  all by itself.
[03:35] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know how to increase the size of the Mac OS-style panel?
[03:35] <JuJuBee> How  does one get just Home Folder rather than system  men?
[03:36] <SperMite> unix_infidel, another thing was i wanted to beable to logon my linux box from windows, I tried winscp, but i don't really wanna do any transfering. to be honest. I have a younger brother that wants to be able to steam my dvdrips on to his computer while im home from college.
[03:36] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: if you right click on the panel, add application, non-KDE, have the program be "konqueror ~"
[03:36] <BonBonTheJon> SperMite: try looking into swat, it can configure samba
[03:37] <BonBonTheJon> DadanLieur: did you figure out ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <SperMite> BonBonTheJon ,  does it have a gui?
[03:37] <BonBonTheJon> SperMite: yeah, its a web based frontend
[03:37] <feindbild> hi =)
[03:37] <SperMite> ok
[03:37] <BonBonTheJon> hi feindbild
[03:38] <itknight> hi all
[03:39] <BonBonTheJon> hi itknight
[03:39] <itknight> has anyone tried the openkiosk
[03:39] <JuJuBee> Yeaaaaa ! Thanks BonBonTheJon  :)
[03:39] <feindbild> I've just downloaded the kubuntu 6.10 DVD image and I cant find any real boot floppy image on it =( ... is that available somewhere?
[03:39] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: cool
[03:39] <itknight> hi bobon
[03:39] <itknight> bonbon
[03:40] <itknight> I am using the make command
[03:40] <itknight> by I dont know how to use it
[03:40] <itknight> any idea
[03:40] <BonBonTheJon> feindbild: if you have DVD, why are you still using floppy
[03:40] <JuJuBee> I bit the bullet and wiped windows a few months ago and am finally getting over the Newbie frustrations and have become inquisitive about the inner workings of linux.  I really dig ubuntu.  Much better than  other distros IMHO.
[03:41] <itknight> ok
[03:41] <itknight> that is god
[03:41] <itknight> good
[03:41] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: what are you trying to do
[03:41] <BonBonTheJon> !enter | itknight
[03:41] <ubotu> itknight: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:41] <itknight> i am installing
[03:42] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: people are here if you need help
[03:42] <itknight> openkiosk
[03:42] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: what is that
[03:42] <JuJuBee> I see that and am greatful.  thanks to everyone...
[03:42] <feindbild> BonBonTheJon: because I can't boot from DVD =P
[03:42] <itknight> http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/index.html
[03:42] <itknight> that is the site
[03:43] <itknight> if you take a look
[03:43] <itknight> at the client documentation
[03:43] <BonBonTheJon> feindbild: are you sure the ISO was good?
[03:43] <itknight> you get to see what I am talking bout
[03:43] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: i'm trying to open it, but konqueror is really slow, hold on
[03:44] <itknight> ok
[03:44] <itknight> have you tried opera
[03:44] <itknight> I use that instead
[03:44] <itknight> ridiculous fast
[03:44] <BonBonTheJon> no, I had been using firefox, but I wanted something more integrated with KDE
[03:44] <feindbild> BonBonTheJon: its not the ISO .... The CDROM hangs on an extra IDE controller and thus I can't boot from DVD .... not even with sbmgr ...
[03:44] <scorp007> what package do i need to get manpages for C ?
[03:45] <itknight> ok
[03:45] <scorp007> as in, the C standard library
[03:45] <itknight> bonbonthejon
[03:45] <itknight> the problem is
[03:45] <BonBonTheJon> feindbild: can you switch the cdrom and the hdd
[03:45] <BonBonTheJon> !enter | itknight
[03:45] <ubotu> itknight: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:45] <itknight> what
[03:45] <BonBonTheJon> scorp007: I would like to know, once you find out
[03:46] <itknight> !enter
[03:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[03:46] <JuJuBee> bonbon : what are you talking about with the enter key?  I dont see  any spam...
[03:46] <scorp007> BonBonTheJon: heh, i used to have em on Suse, now i lost em
[03:46] <itknight> ok
[03:46] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: basically, try to put as much stuff together in a line, don't hit enter so often
[03:46] <itknight> ok no problem
[03:47] <scorp007> BonBonTheJon: manpages-dev
[03:47] <JuJuBee> Oh, I see what you mean.
[03:47] <BonBonTheJon> scorp007: thanks
[03:48] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: ok, openkiosk website is up, and I'm looking at documentation
[03:48] <itknight> ok
[03:48] <feindbild> BonBonTheJon: No. haven't got long enough IDE cable .... is there really no bootfloppy?
[03:49] <BonBonTheJon> feindbild: sorry, I dont know, never had that problem. are you really out of IDE and needed an extra card?
[03:49] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: where am I looking?
[03:51] <feindbild> BonBonTheJon: I only have one IDE channel onboard ...  and  more than enough IDE harddrives ... so yes ...
[03:51] <BonBonTheJon> feindbild: gesh, only one channel
[03:51] <feindbild> s/channel/port/
[03:51] <itknight> ok
[03:51] <itknight> the client documentation for kde
[03:52] <BonBonTheJon> feindbild: yeah, sorry, I don't know about the floppy boot, you can probably use any linux floppy boot disk
[03:52] <itknight> http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/docs/kclient/index.html
[03:52] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: what is this kiosk for?
[03:53] <itknight> it is to setup as an internet cafe
[03:53] <itknight> I am trying to make this work
[03:53] <itknight> and see if it can be done
[03:54] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: you need to make sure you have the dependencies met
[03:55] <itknight> ok i do
[03:55] <itknight> now what
[03:55] <itknight> I have qt3
[03:55] <itknight> and kde 3 or above
[03:55] <alberto> hola para conectar al hispano?
[03:55] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: do you have the devel packages
[03:56] <itknight> for kde
[03:56] <itknight> ???
[03:56] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: yeah
[03:57] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: did you read the README
[03:57] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: to install software like this, you need to run "./configure" then "./make", then "./make install"
[03:57] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: I have to go for a while, when I get back if you have more questions I can help
[03:58] <JuJuBee> !sp
[03:58] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[03:58] <itknight> ok
[03:58] <JuJuBee> oops, sorry. was trying to tell alberto about spanish channel.
[03:58] <BonBonTheJon> !es | alberto
[03:58] <ubotu> alberto: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:59] <JuJuBee> Ah, thanks.
[03:59] <BonBonTheJon> JuJuBee: :)
[03:59] <BonBonTheJon> itknight: try following the README
[03:59] <JuJuBee> Where does one learn these bot commands?
[03:59] <Jucato> !bot
[03:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:59] <itknight> ok
[04:00] <alyssa> where's the setting that tells KDE not to reopen all the windows on reboot?
[04:00] <alyssa> right no it is remember what I had open when I last shutdown
[04:01] <alyssa> ...and it's driving me absolutely nuts
[04:01] <alyssa> I can't seem to find it in the "system settings"
[04:01] <Jucato> alyssa: Dapper or Edgy? look for Session Manager (in Edgy, it's in the Advanced section)
[04:02] <alyssa> Edgy
[04:02] <alyssa> looking
[04:02] <JuJuBee> night all...
[04:02] <BonBonTheJon> night JuJuBee
[04:02] <alyssa> Jucato: right you are!  thx
[04:05] <PsiKloPx> How do I resolve a NO_PUBKEY error when running apt-get update?
[04:07] <itknight> maybe take a look at the gpg keys in the kubuntu website and add it to the repositories
[04:08] <BluesKaj> is there a konsole command to get rid of duplicate repos in the sources list ?
[04:09] <BluesKaj> I have several and I'm too lazy to edit
[04:11] <T3hWiz0rd> !beryl
[04:11] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:11] <T3hWiz0rd> !xgl
[04:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:24] <Daskreech> nikkiana: Hi
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm our channel is quiet...
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> too quiet
[04:33] <Daskreech> Man DoesKubuntu have any problems?
[04:33] <Daskreech> Ha ha we both were thinking the same thing
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Daskreech: no it's perfect
[04:33] <Daskreech> Right
[04:33] <Daskreech> but in general LInux questions
[04:34] <Admiral_Chicago> like what?
[04:34] <Daskreech> What's the practical limit on thenumber of files you can have ina folder before ext* throws up?
[04:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea
[04:36] <Admiral_Chicago> number before NTFS throws up? 0
[04:36] <bLaZeD> !conky
[04:36] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 376 kB
[04:36] <Daskreech> 4 million Ithink
[04:41] <Admiral_Chicago> arg i need to get off IRC to do my presentation
[04:41] <Daskreech> Bye :-)
[04:42] <Daskreech> Look
[04:42] <Daskreech> omgponieslolz
[04:44] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me out with mounting a portable harddrive to certain location everytime
[04:46] <word> Hm...would partitioning out /home /boot and maybe /usr would that increase...anything?
[04:48] <DadanHappy> :)
[04:48] <DadanHappy> ndiswrapper is work
[04:49] <DadanHappy> how to play mp3 in kubuntu
[04:50] <BluesKaj> amarok, DadanHappy
[04:50] <word> yah, amarok is the best imo
[04:50] <osiris> sdlnxgk, was it you who gave the link to BluDog_Anchorite earlier regarding tftp ?
[04:51] <BluesKaj> I like it
[04:51] <DadanHappy> how to play mp3 in kubuntu
[04:51] <osiris> !restricted formats > DadanHappy
[04:51] <BluesKaj> amarok, DadanHappy
[04:52] <tapas> what's the best place for env vars that should be used in my whole kde session?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> bash_profile normally
[04:53] <tapas> that's only for bash
[04:53] <Dr_willis> err .bash_profile :)
[04:53] <tapas> i need it set globally
[04:53] <Dr_willis> they get set/read when logged in.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> or so i recall.
[04:53] <tapas> via kdm?
[04:53] <Dr_willis> I think so.
[04:53] <Dr_willis> try it and see
[04:53] <BDDF> tapas : .kde/env I think
[04:53] <BDDF> anything in there gets run on start
[04:54] <Dr_willis> It may be i see it working that way since i use 'startx' normally
[04:54] <tapas> Dr_willis: probably
[04:54] <BDDF> I think that's the dir ... ~/.kde/env
[04:54] <tapas> BDDF: do ihave to do the export thing in there?
[04:54] <Dr_willis> But i seem to recall seeing JAVA classpaths and other things set there for all the X apps.
[04:54] <BDDF> one sec ... let me check another machine
[04:55] <tapas> Dr_willis: yah you got them set in you bash
[04:55] <tapas> from which you start x
[04:55] <tapas> so x and all children inherit that env
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I seem to recall doing it withn using KDM also.. could go ask in #kde :)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> I think ive set my path that X defaults to in the .bash_profile befor.
[04:56] <Dr_willis> not even sure how to test this. heh..
[04:56] <Dr_willis> could see what a minimal window manager does.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> I got some quirk with kdm/gdm that makes them hang for about 2 min befor they even give me a login: screen.
[04:57] <tapas> BDDF: and i suppose it needs to be executable?
[04:58] <Dr_willis> what sort of setting are you trying to set anyway?
[04:58] <BDDF> tapas :
[04:58] <tapas> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[04:58] <BDDF> write a sheel script that has all of your EXPORT=
[04:59] <BDDF> and drop it in ~/kde/Autostart
[04:59] <tapas> [a flash plugin fix for edgy] 
[04:59] <tapas> BDDF: hmmm you think that'll work?
[04:59] <BDDF> I have a scrip that shuts off my touchpad with synclient like that
[04:59] <BDDF> that's what I did
[05:00] <tapas> ohwell that's a process running
[05:00] <tapas> or do you mean via exporting some env var?
[05:01] <tapas> ok, will try
[05:01] <Dr_willis> still - how that get exported to everything - since kde is allready starting up?
[05:01] <zerozero_> my sounds stopped working the other day, what can I do to troubleshoot it, i'm running dapper
[05:01] <ironfroggy> i have no idea on this one. my machine has been down for days and at the same time i was waiting for a replacement adapter for my laptop. no computer at all for days.
[05:02] <tapas> zerozero_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:02] <zerozero_> k
[05:02] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. gentoo wiki mentions -->  You can either add this line to the startup script for Mozilla/Firefox (/usr/bin/firefox), or export it globally by placing it in a new or existing file in /etc/env.d/
[05:02] <ironfroggy> anyway, my desktop locked up on a flash-heavy page (firefox, browsing on scifi.com), and when i hardbooted, it came back up with nothing but "L 99 99 99 99 ...". any ideas?
[05:03] <BDDF> tapas : should work in ~/.kde/env as well
[05:03] <zerozero_> tapas: it looks like it found it, it came back with the name of my card
[05:03] <DadanHappy> does xfig support kubuntu
[05:03] <tapas> zerozero_: so your card is there
[05:03] <zerozero_> tapas: yes
[05:04] <tapas> zerozero_: the two most probable problems:
[05:04] <tapas> a]  mixer settings  [see alsamixer] 
[05:04] <Dr_willis> i wonder if /etc/enviroment would be a easier place to put it.
[05:04] <ironfroggy> i think its obviously a boot record or kernel issue, but what is that L 99 stuff from? any ideas?
[05:04] <tapas> b]  other programusing the sound card
[05:04] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  sounds liek a LILO error code to me
[05:04] <tapas> Dr_willis: i don't want to set it systemwide
[05:04] <BDDF> tapas : apparently anything in ~/.kde/env will be run on startup ...
[05:04] <tapas> this is a question bugging me for some time
[05:04] <BDDF> I don't know the difference between that and Autostart ... I believe the order
[05:04] <tapas> BDDF: ah that needs to be a direcytory?
[05:05] <BDDF> env first, then Autostart?
[05:05] <BDDF> yes ... sorry ... I thought I mentioned that
[05:05] <BDDF> :S
[05:05] <BDDF> my bad
[05:05] <BDDF> yes ... the ~/.kde/env directory
[05:05] <tapas> :)
[05:06] <BDDF> people use it for scripts to start ssh-agent for example
[05:06] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: thanks. ill google for lilo codes.
[05:06] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  but ubuntu/kubuntu default to using grub..
[05:07] <tapas> hrmpf
[05:08] <knapp> Where is the config file containing the passkey for bluetooth?
[05:08] <zerozero_> tapas: i think thats it, thanks
[05:10] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: well i simply could not use grub. it wouldnt work under default configurations, or under anything attempts i made when originally installing.
[05:10] <Dr_willis>        /usr/share/bluez-pin
[05:10] <ironfroggy> i suppose the upgrade then to edgy broke something?
[05:10] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  possibially. no idea. I always do a clean install
[05:10] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: sounds painful
[05:11] <knapp> Dr_willis is that the answer to my question?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> painfull? rather trivial
[05:11] <Dr_willis> kno thast where my bluetooth pin is at it seems
[05:12] <BDDF> tapas : jsut reading ... the diff seems to be that env is exactly for setting environment variables
[05:12] <tapas> BDDF: you got docs somewhere?
[05:12] <knapp> its empty for me
[05:12] <BDDF> things that do not need to set env vars, or require a window manager go in Autostart
[05:12] <BDDF> well ... googling
[05:13] <BDDF> it is empty to start ...
[05:13] <BDDF> KDE has it's own dirs as well
[05:13] <Dr_willis> I dont even see a .kde/env dir. :)
[05:13] <Dr_willis> thats even emptier then empty!
[05:13] <tapas> somehow the .kde/env way don't work for me
[05:13] <BDDF> you create it
[05:14] <BDDF> Dr_willis
[05:14] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:14] <knapp> Where is the config file containing the passkey for bluetooth?
[05:14] <BDDF> if it's not there ... nor harm
[05:14] <Dr_willis> knapp,  mine is in -->        /usr/share/bluez-pin  theres some command i think you can run to set it.
[05:14] <BDDF> tapas ... how big is your script?
[05:15] <BDDF> like how many vars?
[05:15] <tapas> tapas@banana:~$ cat .kde/env/env
[05:15] <tapas> export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
[05:15] <BDDF> just one?
[05:15] <tapas> :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. odd...
[05:15] <Dr_willis> oh wait - i never set up bluetooth on this box yet. :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> thats the other machine..
[05:16] <tapas> must it have .sh suffix?
[05:16] <Dr_willis>   i thought i had a /etc/bluetooth/pin   at one time
[05:16] <tapas> aag
[05:16] <tapas> aah
[05:17] <BDDF> yes
[05:17] <BDDF> tapas ... requires .sh
[05:18] <tapas> that was it
[05:18] <tapas> there should be a tab in th control center to edit that file
[05:18] <BDDF> tapas : take a look at the starkde script on your system
[05:18] <tapas> yah that's what i found too :)
[05:19] <BDDF> about line 135 ... there's an explanation in the comments
[05:19] <BDDF> tapas : so it's working for you now?
[05:20] <tapas> yep
[05:20] <tapas> thanks
[05:20] <BDDF> coo
[05:21] <tapas> anyone here play bossa nova guitar>
[05:21] <tapas> ?
[05:21] <tapas> :)
[05:21] <DadanHappy> !xgl
[05:21] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:25] <DadanHappy> !flash
[05:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:25] <DadanHappy> !mov
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <DadanHappy> !quicktime
[05:25] <Jucato> !botabuse
[05:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[05:27] <AWOSLappy> My Synaptics TouchPad has suddently stopped working after reboot.  I am using Dapper Drake 6.06.1 LTS with X.org 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:27] <AWOSLappy> Also Ubuntu now hangs on bootup for a couple of minutes with the error '/sbin/modprobe': Unexpected exit (or something similar to that, I can't remember exactly -- too busy trying to fix mouse)
[05:27] <AWOSLappy> Also I can't mount my NFS partitions; it comes up "mount to NFS server failed."
[05:30] <DadanHappy> i need blender to install in my kubuntu, but i can't found it in adept manager, is anyone can help me?
[05:30] <AWOSLappy> DadanHappy, launch Konsole (it should be in the K menu under System->Konsole)
[05:31] <AWOSLappy> DadanHappy, then type    "sudo apt-get install blender" (without quotes) on the prompt that comes up
[05:31] <DadanHappy> wait
[05:32] <DadanHappy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:32] <DadanHappy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:32] <DadanHappy> why?
[05:32] <osiris> doing it as root ?
[05:32] <AWOSLappy> did you put sudo in front of it?
[05:33] <AWOSLappy> Is adept running right now?  You need to get out of adept, sorry about that.
[05:33] <DadanHappy> yup
[05:33] <DadanHappy> ooo
[05:33] <DadanHappy> ok
[05:33] <AWOSLappy> So does anybody want to help me with any of my problems?
[05:34] <osiris> AWOSLappy, the modprobe error could be what is causing mouse problems
[05:34] <AWOSLappy> osiris, I'm sorry I forgot to include this:
[05:35] <osiris> NFS, i know nothing about
[05:35] <AWOSLappy> Inspecting dmesg, I found that the bcm43xx module
[05:35] <osiris> broadcom wireless ?
[05:35] <AWOSLappy> yes
[05:35] <osiris> k
[05:35] <AWOSLappy> crap, how do you select text in Konsole without the mouse?!
[05:42] <koko1710> hello
[05:43] <koko1710> anyone there to help?
[05:43] <sgorilla78> hi
[05:43] <Hawkwind> koko1710: Just ask your question
[05:43] <koko1710> anyone knows how to get flash plugin to work in firefox?
[05:43] <sgorilla78> yeah, it should automatically install
[05:43] <Hawkwind> !flash9 | koko1710
[05:43] <ubotu> koko1710: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:43] <sgorilla78> you may want to install the beta version of flash9
[05:44] <sgorilla78> seems to work better than the latest stable
[05:44] <koko1710> ok....
[05:44] <koko1710> try now
[05:44] <koko1710> then how to install? it's in archive form
[05:44] <Hawkwind> koko1710: Add the source and apt-get install it
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Or download it manually and use dpkg
[05:46] <koko1710> then where should i put the files? what files yo should put?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> It does all for you
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Just install the .deb package and restart firefox
[05:46] <koko1710> ok....
[05:47] <koko1710> what is dpkg anyway?
[05:49] <Hawkwind> !dpkg | koko1710
[05:49] <ubotu> koko1710: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[05:49] <koko1710> hello?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[05:51] <koko1710> is it the "libflasplayer.so" file? then copy to plugins folder?
[05:53] <koko1710> hello?
[05:53] <koko1710> i need response
[05:54] <koko1710> it crashes you know
[05:56] <Zaire> anyone in here have any idea as to why image links would out of nowhere pile on top of eachother...mine did and I can't get them back the way they were...very frustrating
[05:58] <Erich-K> I keep getting an error, cannot find oct/stream or something of the like, anyone know what it is?
[05:59] <Digital_Pioneer> What do I need to crosscompile for Windoze?
[06:00] <sgorilla78>  Decimal("20,72")
[06:00] <sgorilla78> is there some type of python library for working with international currency?
[06:01] <sgorilla78> oops wrong window
[06:14] <seven> hello u all
[06:14] <seven> i need some help with torrent clients
[06:15] <seven> i have tryed them all and non of them works they are all slow
[06:17] <seven> i have tried the same torrent on windows (bitcomet) and it starts downloading with 30kb/s straight away while with ktorren on kubuntu with 0.3 kb/s
[06:17] <seven> so i tried some other clients but i will not speed up my download
[06:18] <seven> so i guess its not the client it's the system it selfe that's slows everything down
[06:19] <enyawix> ya i got full multimedia :)
[06:19] <seven> ?
[06:20] <seven> ports are open everything normal but i still cant get some good download speed
[06:20] <enyawix> mp3 mpeg movie etc
[06:21] <seven> that's nice 4 u
[06:21] <seven> but it doesn't help me with my torrents right
[06:21] <xiO___> seven: sounds like it's a user error
[06:22] <seven> user error?
[06:23] <enyawix> brb
[06:24] <seven> xiO___: how can i solve this problem
[06:25] <_matt> seven: what clients have you tried?
[06:26] <seven> ktorrent, bittornado, azureus, even amule all the same
[06:26] <_matt> seven: and you've got port forwarding enabled on your firewall for the relevant ports?
[06:26] <seven> yes
[06:27] <_matt> seven: are you running a firewall on your box?
[06:27] <seven> no
[06:27] <T3hWiz0rd> who runs firewalls besides windows nubs and grandmas? psh
[06:27] <T3hWiz0rd> I real linux zealot laughs in the face of danger and stabs the man with his LIGHT SABRE!
[06:28] <T3hWiz0rd> ...and then returns to his mothers basement for chips and mountain dew.
[06:29] <_matt> seven:  what does the output of "sudo iptables -L" look like?
[06:29] <seven> all open
[06:30] <_matt> seven: I've noticed recently that increasing my upload limit improves performance - but don't max out your upload bandwidth, or you'll kill your download speed
[06:31] <seven> ok i will try that but i still don't understand
[06:32] <_matt> seven: have you set an upload limit?  If not, then maybe your upload is being maxed out, which'll kill your download
[06:32] <seven> i had it on 20
[06:33] <seven> now its on 80
[06:33] <_matt> seven: what's your max upload speed?
[06:34] <seven> max up 80 kb/s
[06:35] <_matt> seven: does b=bits or bytes?  b usually means bits and ktorrent and azureus measure max upload in bytes.  80 kb ~= 8kB, and if you've got your max upload set to 20 or 80 kB, then that's why you're getting shitty download speeds.  Drop it to 5, and see what happens.
[06:36] <seven> ok mom
[06:37] <_matt> seven: no ones forcing you dude ...
[06:37] <seven> sorry mom moment
[06:41] <seven> _matt: thank you that helped
[06:42] <_matt> seven: cool
[06:42] <seven> they are still not super fast but getting better
[06:49] <Tater> hey all I got my dlink dwl 650 + to at least load the firmware according to dmesg but I can't see any wireless networks any ideas?
[07:05] <seishinbyou> Is there even 25GB of Kubuntu-related software out there?
[07:05] <Jucato> O_O
[07:06] <Jucato> you're kidding, right? :)
[07:07] <seishinbyou> Oh, I'm just thinking of what to include on the Live Blu-Ray
[07:07] <seishinbyou> Even though I'll probably be the only one hosting anything so ridiculous
[07:07] <Jucato> include everything
[07:07] <Jucato> everything in main, restricted, universe, and multiverse :P
[07:08] <Jucato> not to  mention -security and -updates
[07:08] <seishinbyou> It's all going on there
[07:08] <Jucato> that's going to be more than enough I guess...
[07:08] <Jucato> have fun! :)
[07:09] <seishinbyou> Well, as much "fun" as burning a blu-ray is, I guess
[07:09] <seishinbyou> ...and the fact a handful of people can even boot the thing
[07:10] <seishinbyou> let along want to download it
[07:10] <rawrness> I wonder if blu-ray is even going to catch.
[07:10] <seishinbyou> Here in Japan, it has to a limited degree, but the discs are too expensive, still
[07:11] <rawrness> I think dvd-dl disks are too expensive.
[07:11] <seishinbyou> They are about 700 yen per, so they are coming down
[07:14] <rawrness> I need to fix this clock....>
[07:16] <cameron> hey can i get some help installing my nvidia drivers in kubuntu
[07:17] <Zaire> easy cli....sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx then once thats done sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:17] <cameron> i installed nvidia-glx but when i typed sudo nvidia-glx config enable i get an error
[07:18] <Zaire> might try sudo nvidia-xconfig then
[07:18] <cameron> unable to load kernal driver be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel
[07:19] <Ricardo_Ram> #wikipedia-es
[07:19] <Zaire> hmmm Ive never really had probs installing and enabling the nvidia driver
[07:19] <Jucato> (don't forget to have linux-restricted-modules installed)
[07:20] <Zaire> only trouble I had with nvidia was the binary drivers from their site
[07:20] <cameron> wait i got it
[07:20] <cameron> thanks for you help guys
[07:20] <Zaire> no probs
[07:21] <Zaire> I get the hang of things quick cause I format lots lol
[07:21] <Zaire> guess its the whole repetetive task thing
[07:22] <Jucato> any suggestions for a program that converts docbook to pdf?
[07:23] <Zaire> one thing that never ceases to annoy me however is doing links for websites and getting the links in proper position
[07:23] <rawrness> Formating your drives is a hobby
[07:24] <Zaire> I do mine atleast once a month lol
[07:24] <rawrness> Format clean install every few weeks
[07:24] <Zaire> as for pdf stuff not a clue
[07:24] <Jucato> :)
[07:24] <Zaire> i tend to stay away from pdf files lol
[07:24] <rawrness> I hate adobe reader........
[07:25] <rawrness> So slow it was
[07:25] <Zaire> memhog yeps lol
[07:25] <rawrness> Infact when i reinstalled windows
[07:25] <rawrness> That was the only program on the whole ocmputer
[07:25] <Jucato> I'm using KPDF. but I doubt there's a docbook reader for Symbian... :(
[07:26] <Zaire> you guys happen to know a way to get mousover image links to line up verticle and not piled up lol
[07:26] <Jucato> oh nvm, KDE docs have PDF version...
[07:26] <Jucato> aw.. not all of them :(
[07:28] <Zaire> my links work fine just for whatever reason they don't want to line up verticle without piling up :S
[07:31] <Zaire> dunno why it is cause they were fine then I changed one thing unrelated to them and bango it broke
[07:32] <e1mer> how do i know what is my locale?
[07:39] <Zaire> gah even the vertical align css tag isn't working
[07:40] <nocloud> i just updated to edgy, does anybody know how i can make the bottom menu bar look like the new style i see in the screenshots?
[08:09] <vitalik> 
[08:10] <Black> why the services are currently down ?
[08:10] <Black> updating ?
[08:12] <rohan> what is the official way to update kubuntu dapper -> edgy ?
[08:14] <rawrness> i have heard so many horror storys
[08:14] <rawrness> ........
[08:14] <rohan> rawrness: hehe, which is why i am asking
[08:15] <rawrness> Personaly i just used a clean install
[08:15] <rohan> problem is, i have the desktop 6.10 iso downloaded - but my cd burner is not working
[08:15] <rohan> so i can't burn it
[08:15] <rawrness> Fun
[08:15] <rohan> and there is no way to boot a computer from an iso
[08:15] <rawrness> If you have a thumbdrive of 1 gb.
[08:16] <rawrness> But i am not to sure about it..........
[08:16] <rohan> rawrness: i have a thumb drive. but my computer is so old that i cannot boot from usb
[08:17] <rawrness> Mine just sucks :P
[08:19] <rawrness> I would have to say though
[08:19] <rohan> that ?
[08:19] <rawrness> Just change all instances of dapper to edgy
[08:19] <rawrness> and perhaps remove as many apps as possable
[08:20] <Zaire> dapper to edgy doesn't usually end well
[08:20] <Zaire> and edgy is still kinda buggy anyway
[08:20] <rohan> damn, i wish the cd writer had not gone bust the day i downloaded the iso !
[08:21] <rawrness> I didn't have any cds when i downloaded ths iso
[08:21] <rohan> Zaire: yep, i am badly affected by this bug - http://launchpad.net/bugs/63558
[08:21] <rawrness> Good thing i found the dvd image :P
[08:21] <rohan> rawrness: so what did you do, then ?
[08:22] <rawrness> when you have a whole spindel of dvds but no cd-rs
[08:22] <seishinbyou> That's the way it works, though.  Also, when was the last time you used a floppy drive?
[08:22] <rawrness> isos don't like you much
[08:23] <hyper_ch> my kde has a serious problem: whenever I try to start an app I get a message: KDEInit could not launch 'app' --> e.g. KDEInit could not launch 'Konsole'
[08:23] <Zaire> css an xhtml don't seem to like me today
[08:24] <rohan> hyper_ch: logout and back in
[08:24] <rohan> usually solves the problem for me
[08:24] <hyper_ch> rohan: thx, I'll try that... but I assume you don't know either what causes that?
[08:24] <rohan> hyper_ch: no, i don't know what causes that
[08:25] <hyper_ch> rohan: maybe I should setup my edgy again... been using it since the beta
[08:25] <rawrness> Virus Alert delete imediatly before someone gets hurt :P
[08:25] <rohan> hyper_ch: no, its not an edgy problem. occurs to me on almost all kde distros, once in a while
[08:26] <hyper_ch> rohan: well, it's not only that... I also have problems to get my nvidia card to run properly :)
[08:27] <hyper_ch> rohan: well, I need a new comp anyway :)
[08:28] <hyper_ch> rohan: can't run zattoo in wine hence I need vmware :( and on a single cpu it's soooooo slow
[08:28] <rohan> hyper_ch: i need a new comp too .. i am on a p3 550mhz with 256mb ram :P
[08:29] <hyper_ch> rohan: mine is a bit better :)
[08:29] <rohan> hehe
[08:29] <hyper_ch> rohan: how well does kubuntu run on that?
[08:30] <rohan> well, i've never seen kde run on a fast pc, so i can't compare
[08:30] <rohan> but it is EXCRUCIATINGLY slow
[08:30] <kraut> moin
[08:30] <rohan> i mean, after clicking in "view" on kopete, it takes a long to open the converstion video, and so on
[08:31] <hyper_ch> rohan: maybe you can help me with another issue *g* a friend of mine got an old vaio notebook with a p2 366mhz and 64mb ram... what could you recommend to run on it? He wants to give it to his gf who mainly wants to do office and websurfing (for office OOo is mandatory as she will need M$ compatibility)
[08:32] <rohan> xubuntu
[08:32] <rohan> xfce is the 'lightest' of all DE's
[08:32] <defrysk> xubuntu and alternative installer
[08:33] <defrysk> 64mbram is tiny for a livecd
[08:33] <hyper_ch> and would prefork speed things up?
[08:33] <rohan> not very
[08:34] <defrysk> that would speed things up
[08:34] <hyper_ch> can you get ram for that machine?
[08:34] <defrysk> hyper_ch, ask around and fine out
[08:34] <hyper_ch> defrysk: thx :)
[08:35] <hyper_ch> defrysk: would be nice to install a nice, modern gui and demonstrate how quick everything is (with prefork) compared to the previous win98
[08:35] <defrysk> hyper_ch, for old machines xtra ram is usually the best upgrade
[08:36] <defrysk> hyper_ch, xfce = nice
[08:36] <rawrness> !media
[08:36] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:36] <seishinbyou> xfce is pretty good.  I use it as a VMWare machine from home when I need to do development work
[08:36] <rawrness> !codecs
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:36] <hyper_ch> defrysk: I had xfce for some time on my machine :)
[08:36] <rawrness> there we go
[08:36] <defrysk> there yu go
[08:36] <hyper_ch> anyway, gotta go :) thx for the help :)
[08:36] <rawrness> have fun
[08:37] <rohan> g'bye, hyper_ch
[08:37] <nikkiana> i've got a really random question that i'm wondering if anyone knows the answer to (not that i'm going to do this, i'm just wanting to know for arguement sake....) If someone really wanted to, is it possible in K/Ubuntu to make it so all the commands that you'd normally do as Ctrl+whatever (like copy.... Ctrl+C) are handled the way Mac OS X defaultly does it (little key with the apple on it+C)?
[08:41] <seishinbyou> You could remap the keyboard however you want (with some exceptions, I believe)
[08:41] <seishinbyou> I have the Windows menu key used as the backslash/underscore key since the key isn't picked up normally on a jp106 keyboard
[08:42] <seishinbyou> ...and without it there is no way to enter an underscore character except cut&paste
[08:43] <nikkiana> that's what i figured, i just wanted some confirmation that it was possible ;)
[08:44] <nikkiana> i'm having an arguement with a Mac enthusist that my insistance on Ctrl+whatever commands is a "bad habit" left over from using Windows and Linux.
[08:46] <seishinbyou> How about use the PC the way you want to use it and leave it at that?
[08:46] <Jucato> -_-
[08:47] <nikkiana> That's what I say....
[08:48] <Zaire> mac sux lol
[08:48] <Jucato> steve jobs is t3h g0d
[08:48] <Jucato> :)
[08:48] <houssem> hello !!
[08:48] <seishinbyou> Mac is okay; it is the fanbase that gets irksome
[08:48] <Jucato> everything have its own share of fanboys. even Ubuntu :)
[08:49] <Zaire> mac hardware has always been crap..I mean seriously card based proc and single button mouse wth is that
[08:49] <Mez> Jucato=the uber fanboy ;)
[08:49] <seishinbyou> The iPuck!  (I remember that)
[08:49] <Jucato> hahaha! hi Mez! :)
[08:49] <nikkiana> I recently bought a Mac because I wanted a laptop and was too lazy to buy a PC and install Kubuntu on it (I hate setting up synaptic, honestly) and I have all the usual complaints of a new Mac user, the weirdness of the one buttoned touchpad and the command (apple) key.... and whenever i complain, the fanboys scream.
[08:49] <houssem> is there in kubuntu a log file where all activities done on my system are logged ?
[08:50] <Jucato> houssem: dig around in /var/log
[08:50] <Zaire> solution buy a PC laptop cause its not that hard to setup linux lol
[08:51] <houssem> Jucato: waou !! there is 4452 log file !!!
[08:51] <rawrness> Apple lappys are sexy beasts
[08:51] <nikkiana> Zaire: sadly, i needed something i could natively run photoshop in because the gimp and i don't get along. that was another reason i went with Mac... i refused to go back to Windows....
[08:51] <rawrness> You could always try to vmware windows
[08:52] <Jucato> houssem: just look for the one that you need. for example, Xorg.0.log has the logs for X server, dpkg.log has the logs for apps  you install/remove, etc
[08:52] <seishinbyou> If only Photoshop CS2 ran in Wine... or at least I could get it to work
[08:52] <seishinbyou> rawrness has a point
[08:52] <rawrness> You just need a good bit of ram
[08:52] <nikkiana> yes, but i don't own a copy of windows.
[08:53] <Zaire> winblows sux
[08:53] <rawrness> vmware is real ram whore
[08:53] <Zaire> yes yes it is
[08:53] <Jucato> of course it is
[08:53] <houssem> Jucato: my problem is that i have added "streamripper" to be lunched from crontab for a 3600second but it have only runed for 3minute!
[08:53] <Jucato> oh
[08:54] <noiesmo> hey all just upgrade dappper to edgy and having a problem with starting x the error is loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.km
[08:54] <houssem> Jucato: !crontab
[08:54] <seishinbyou> what is your crontab?
[08:54] <seishinbyou> crontab -l
[08:54] <nikkiana> in the end, i'm not dissatistified with what i chose to do, but i am dissatisfied with Apple fanboys telling me that I'm not cool because I don't like using Command+C to copy because it hurts my hands because I'm used to Ctrl+C. It's not a "bad habit" i need to break. It's personal preference.
[08:54] <Jucato> houssem: I meant that I don't use it
[08:54] <nikkiana> but anyway, i'll get off my soapbox and take it to my blog. ;)
[08:54] <Zaire> vmware is designed for a computer thats purely meant as a server machine which would have mega ram in it
[08:55] <seishinbyou> nikkiana: You don't need to pay attention to them
[08:55] <houssem> Jucato: ah ok
[08:55] <rawrness> 1 Gb seems to work well from what i have heard.
[08:55] <Zaire> no mac fans are idiots usually who thrive on annoying ppl lol
[08:55] <nikkiana> seishinbyou: oh i know, but it makes for good family arguements ;)
[08:55] <seishinbyou> I run vmware, but I have 1.5GB or ram anyways
[08:55] <Zaire> 1 gig rofl right
[08:56] <Zaire> vmware requires alot more then 1 gig to right decent
[08:56] <seishinbyou> It runs pretty fine under the current setup for me.  Visual studio runs a bit slow...oh well, tough break
[08:56] <seishinbyou> Beats dual booting
[08:56] <rawrness> doppel managed to cast radio with 1 gig.
[08:56] <rawrness> Sounded fine
[08:56] <seishinbyou> nikkiana: I had my share of arguments with a few Mac users
[08:56] <seishinbyou> Mostly over Xserve
[08:57] <seishinbyou> and iMail
[08:57] <seishinbyou> (and the GUI, and how the pinstripes give me a headache)
[08:57] <rawrness> I dislike apples themeing
[08:57] <rawrness> Silver allday would hurt my eyes :P
[08:59] <seishinbyou> Ah, the brushed metal theme?
[09:00] <houssem> anyone have a probleme like me with www.google.com ???
[09:00] <rawrness> why would you have a problem with good?
[09:00] <rawrness> google*
[09:00] <houssem> yes
[09:01] <houssem> 504 Gateway timeout
[09:02] <_4strO> yop
[09:03] <rawrness> what was the command to get to kde's control panel
[09:03] <Jucato> Alt+F2, kcontrol ?
[09:04] <rawrness> that was it
[09:04] <rawrness> Its been awhile
[09:29] <DadanHappy> i need some software which have function like corel draw in kubuntu
[09:30] <DadanHappy> what software should i use
[09:30] <DadanHappy> !corel
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about corel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <Jucato> !inkscapte
[09:31] <Jucato> !inkscape
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inkscapte - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <ubotu> Inkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more
[09:31] <crazy_bus> Try inkscape, or xara xtreme
[09:32] <DadanHappy> did ubuntu support both
[09:32] <crazy_bus> ubuntu has both
[09:33] <DadanHappy> kubuntu
[09:33] <crazy_bus> yes
[09:34] <crazy_bus> go into Add/Remove programs and click on both unsupported and propriertary check boxes to get xara and inkscape
[09:34] <DadanHappy> when i type xara in adept, the list is gone
[09:36] <crazy_bus> sorry, i meant to say xara is in universe or multiverse
[09:36] <defrysk> !info xara
[09:36] <ubotu> Package xara does not exist in any distro I know
[09:36] <defrysk> its not there
[09:37] <crazy_bus>  go into Add/Remove programs and click on both unsupported and propriertary Xara will come up
[09:37] <crazy_bus> at least it did for me :)
[09:37] <defrysk> ist xara-gtk
[09:37] <defrysk> !info xara-gtk
[09:37] <ubotu> xara-gtk: GTK utility for searching the Debian package database. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.13 (edgy), package size 562 kB, installed size 1644 kB
[09:38] <crazy_bus> it's xara-xtreme
[09:38] <DadanHappy> need help, to clean adept cache
[09:38] <defrysk> apt-cat clean
[09:38] <defrysk> apt-get clean even
[09:38] <crazy_bus> I don't get xara-xtreme in adept.  But I installed it in add/remove programs
[09:38] <defrysk> sudo apt-get clean
[09:40] <Jucato> !xaralx
[09:40] <ubotu> xaralx: Heavyweight vector graphics, illustration and DTP Program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.7r1692-2 (edgy), package size 4573 kB, installed size 11776 kB
[09:42] <DadanHappy> did kubuntu have another desktop themes, i've seen freespire k button change
[09:42] <DadanHappy> it's nice
[09:47] <seishinbyou> You can customize the theme as you please.  I'm not sure if the Freespire theme is available on its' own, but you could rip that from a Freespire install if you wanted
[09:49] <chudd> DadanHappy: check out themes.kde.org for all sorts of cool stuff
[09:49] <DadanHappy> !desktop themes
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about desktop themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <Jucato> !theme
[09:49] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:50] <seishinbyou> Yay, almost finishing time, and time for dinner
[09:52] <dorshin> !backup
[09:52] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:57] <dorshin> using dapper and its a fresh install,in adept i can see that there is a kernel upgrade,i dont want to lose my conf of KDE and i have limited disk space
[09:58] <dorshin> if i upgrade to a new kernel will i need too much disk space? and lose my confs of KDE?
[09:59] <fdoving> dorshin: kernel upgrades are safe. you will not loose your confs. doesn't the adept status line say anything about disk usage?
[10:00] <DadanHappy> is theme for kde 3.2 okay if i use in kde 3.5 isn't
[10:00] <DadanHappy> ?
[10:00] <defrysk> kernel = linux,  kde is dm
[10:02] <dorshin> fdoving: i didnt request an upgrade  cos i wasnt sure
[10:03] <dorshin> i have to back up my fresh install to a fat32 partition,then i will upgrade.
[10:04] <Lynoure> What's the default kernel in edgy?
[10:04] <Lynoure> (version number, I mean)
[10:05] <DadanHappy> 2.6.17
[10:05] <DadanHappy> type uname -a
[10:05] <Lynoure> I'm not on edgy
[10:05] <Lynoure> So me typing unamu -a would not have answered that.
[10:06] <Lynoure> s/unamu/uname
[10:06] <DadanHappy> maharani@MahaRaja:~$ uname -a
[10:06] <DadanHappy> Linux MahaRaja 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:06] <Lynoure> So, with luck Palm syncing would work on edgy...
[10:08] <Lynoure> But otherwise it does not sound that yummy, but that might still make it worth for me. But of course I could make my own kernel, too. Choices...
[10:12] <dorshin> will it remove the old kernel after upgrade?if not how to assure that? do you recommend removing the old one?
[10:12] <fdoving> dorshin: you can, but it's not done automatically. how much free space do you have?
[10:14] <dorshin> fdoving: 1 gig
[10:15] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i change resolution in KDE ?
[10:16] <Lynoure> ghostshadow189: didn't you already get the answer?
[10:16] <defrysk> thought so yes
[10:16] <ghostshadow189> yes , i didnt find monitor in system setting
[10:17] <Lynoure> ghostshadow189: what defrysk told you works for many people, but I had a bug encounter with it in dapper (ended up losing all the other resolution options)
[10:17] <ghostshadow189> oh ? so i cant change ?
[10:17] <Lynoure> try display
[10:18] <ghostshadow189> i view control center
[10:18] <ghostshadow189> but there no display
[10:18] <ghostshadow189> or monitor
[10:18] <Lynoure> System settings > Hardware > Display
[10:19] <defrysk> ghostshadow189, why not upgrade to the latest kde ?
[10:20] <ghostshadow189> sure , i'm using KDE 3.5
[10:20] <Lynoure> hmmm
[10:20] <ghostshadow189> sorry but i didnt find hardware
[10:20] <defrysk> well what I said in ubuntu should work then
[10:20] <dorshin> installed kernel is 2.6.15.22 candidate 2.6.15.25, too much difference?
[10:21] <Lynoure> ghostshadow189: so, you did go from K-menu to System Settings? What can you see there?
[10:21] <defrysk> system settings and in computeradmin section monitor & display
[10:22] <defrysk> is what I see
[10:22] <fdoving> dorshin: then you can safely install the upgrades. later you can open adept manager (kmenu -> system -> adept manager) Just below the 'Search:' field, you'll find 'Show:' uncheck 'not installed'  - now search for 'linux-image', now you can rightclick and request uninstall on the old kernels. Make sure you leave the one with the highest version number. As you need atleast one kernel.
[10:22] <ghostshadow189> start -> system -> disk , networking , users and groups , etc
[10:22] <DadanHappy> can i use kernel from kernel.org in edgy
[10:23] <Lynoure> Start?
[10:23] <ghostshadow189> kde start menu :D
[10:23] <defrysk> DadanHappy, you can but its not supported from here
[10:23] <defrysk> DadanHappy, google for howto's
[10:23] <dorshin> fdoving: great help, now i know what to do.THANK YOU.
[10:24] <Lynoure> ghostshadow189: you do not have System setting on the K-menu? It's not under System, just directly as System Settings (at least on dapper)
[10:24] <defrysk> otherwise try kconfig in your console
[10:24] <ghostshadow189> in settings -> system Administrator -> date and time , font installer , etc
[10:25] <defrysk> kcontrol even
[10:25] <defrysk> ghostshadow189, open kcontrol
[10:25] <ghostshadow189> yes , kcontrol is control center
[10:26] <ghostshadow189> i'm using it
[10:26] <defrysk> open peripherals
[10:26] <defrysk> and select monitor and display
[10:27] <defrysk> found it ?
[10:27] <ghostshadow189> there no monitor and display , just digital camera , joystick , keyboard , mouse etc
[10:27] <defrysk> ghostshadow189, something is missing there then
[10:27] <ghostshadow189> :(
[10:27] <defrysk> ghostshadow189, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <ghostshadow189> so how can i fix it ?
[10:28] <ghostshadow189> i installed kde-core
[10:28] <defrysk> see if components are missing
[10:28] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[10:28] <ghostshadow189> so maybe it's prob ?
[10:28] <defrysk> do what I said
[10:28] <ghostshadow189> ok
[10:28] <ghostshadow189> kubuntu-desktop :D
[10:28] <defrysk> Wraf!!
[10:29] <defrysk> ghostshadow189, seems to me like you miss some kde-admin parts or something
[10:29] <ghostshadow189> i'm install again kubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <ghostshadow189> cus i installed kde-core
[10:30] <defrysk> ok
[10:31] <kdefrysk> ;p
[10:41] <blackflag> I dont have command history in my terminal. How can I enable it?
[10:51] <kdefrysk> blackflag, cat .bash_history
[10:51] <kdefrysk> later folks
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> wow this channel is dead
[10:53] <ehird> omg wow lollololololollllllllll!!121212
[11:05] <blackflag> kdefrysk: I didnt have permission to it and I correct it, its working now. Tahnks!
[11:12] <Yaccin> i cant isntall kdesdk on edgy :(
[11:35] <rag> hello, how to record a iso on usb without use CD before?
[11:44] <rolando> hola
[11:45] <rolando> how can i check if i have 3d acceleration with kubuntu?
[11:45] <rolando> i do glxgears but i dont see any fps
[11:45] <Yaccin> glxinfo
[11:45] <Yaccin> ?
[11:45] <rolando> glxinfo i get a lot of things
[11:46] <rolando> but not these fps
[11:46] <Jucato> glxgears -printfps
[11:46] <rolando> ok thanx Jucato
[12:03] <JuJuBee> Morning all.  I  cannot load the User Management under system settings.  Tells me  "The module  User Management Could not be loaded".
[12:03] <JuJuBee> Any help?
[12:06] <rag> hello *, how to record a iso on usb without use CD before? command...
[12:10] <The^Mole> JuJuBee: Can you load it through kcontrol?
[12:10] <JuJuBee> Ill check
[12:10] <linopil> !alsa
[12:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:10] <JuJuBee> no.
[12:11] <The^Mole> What happens there?
[12:11] <JuJuBee> When I click on User Management, the right pane just shows ubuntu info... no user managemen
[12:11] <JuJuBee> I have console errors...What is the pastebin url?
[12:11] <The^Mole> Oh.
[12:11] <The^Mole> !paste
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <JuJuBee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32301/
[12:13] <linopil> what do I do to know currnet alsa ver ? sudo apt-cache query alsa
[12:13] <linopil>  ? no then what instead ?
[12:13] <The^Mole> You running edgy?
[12:13] <JuJuBee> Yes
[12:14] <The^Mole> linopil: just look in adept or synaptic
[12:14] <JuJuBee> Upgraded  last week
[12:14] <The^Mole> Hmm...
[12:14] <The^Mole> Has it worked since upgrading?
[12:14] <JuJuBee> no
[12:14] <linopil> ty The^Mole and command line ?
[12:15] <The^Mole> linopil: not sure.
[12:15] <linopil> k ty
[12:15] <The^Mole> try apt --help or /?
[12:15] <linopil> good ty
[12:17] <The^Mole> JuJuBee: I'm not to sure... I'm not really technical enough to understand what that error message means :/
[12:18] <JuJuBee> I wonder if there is someting I should re-intsall?  I dont see User Management in synaptic.
[12:18] <Zaire> well I was right kubuntu just doesn't like to dual boot for me
[12:19] <Zaire> ubuntu on the other hand just did
[12:21] <linopil> Zaire: should not matter that much kubuntu - ubuntu is a matter of windows manager - both linux both ubuntu and sharing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:21] <The^Mole> JuJuBee: Do all the other modules work?
[12:22] <B-Minus> ok
[12:22] <Zaire> I know it shouldn't but all of my attempts I made before I did the same thing I just did with ubuntu and they failed ubuntu succeeded without fraging my windows partition
[12:22] <B-Minus> so is it possible to run photoshop cd2 in linux
[12:22] <JuJuBee> Havent checked all, but the ones I have used do...
[12:22] <Jucato> JuJuBee: try this command: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"
[12:23] <linopil> you should have boot CD's handy for rescue situations
[12:23] <Zaire> why I don't even try dual boot unless I just formatted anyway so rescue disk would be a waste of time
[12:24] <Zaire> doesn't bother me that it frags it so much as the fact that Ive wanted dual boot and not been able to get it
[12:26] <JuJuBee> Jucato : then run user management?
[12:26] <linopil> there is a problem in installs but I always correct it afterwards,  because each and every of many machines I installed is dual -booted
[12:26] <Jucato> JuJuBee: in System Settings? yes
[12:26] <JuJuBee> K
[12:26] <JuJuBee> The Module User Management could not be loaded.
[12:26] <Jucato> hm...
[12:26] <JuJuBee> Tells me I have old third party modules lying around
[12:27] <linopil> got to spot problem and fix it. zaire. first decide who will rule MBR .  Linux GRUB or M$ MBR - (boot.ini  b4 VISTA)
[12:27] <JuJuBee> Sometthing about last KDE upgrade leaving orphaned control module
[12:28] <Zaire> vista and all windows suck I only use XP for gaming and photo editing second grub always goes to main mbr its just something I think with kubuntu that it doesn't like it when I try to dual boot
[12:29] <Zaire> eitherway it works now I just have to install kubuntu from cli
[12:32] <Zaire> I was actually reading reviews on vista and ppl reccomend XP over vista cause vista has more security vulnerabilities and holes then XP not to mention is slower for internet and basic office and home usage and requires more ram to run
[12:34] <Zaire> oh yea and its not all from scratch they used huge chunks of code from XP and server 03 to make it the only thing they redid was the interface for access like control panel and screen properties
[12:35] <ubuntu> hey people.
[12:35] <ubuntu> I'm running the kubuntu liveCD...
[12:35] <ubuntu> wondering if there's an easy way to install using it.
[12:35] <crazy_bus> hello
[12:35] <Bug2000> lol, user named ubotu :P.
[12:35] <Yaccin> there should be a shortcut on your desktop
[12:35] <Yaccin> if not its in K-Menu > System > install
[12:36] <Zaire> damn apt wont grab kubuntu
[12:36] <ubuntu> none of the above on those.
[12:36] <Healot> default nick running liveCD huh
[12:36] <ubuntu> 2.6.15-12-386 kernel; no clue what ver of kubuntu that would be.
[12:37] <Yaccin> ubuntu: you downloaded it?
[12:37] <Yaccin> Zaire: ?
[12:37] <JuJuBee> Jucato : just found another bug.  When I empty trash, the progress indicator stays at 0% (never moves), after a while, I close progress window and trash seems empty.
[12:37] <Healot> ubuntu: ah, the icon install on the desktop? that's 2.6.15-12 then
[12:37] <Zaire> it won't let me use apt-get to install kubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <Yaccin> why do you want to install that?
[12:38] <Zaire> cause gnome sucks
[12:38] <bronaugh> Yaccin: my laptop's debian install decided to bite it tonight; I don't have my USB dongle to boot the laptop off the CD drive; and I had this handy 2x2GHz box sitting in a cardboard box...so I figured I'd give it a go, at worst make myself a netboot server.
[12:38] <Yaccin> bronaugh: where do you have the kubuntu-cd from?
[12:38] <Yaccin> Zaire: apt-get install kde
[12:39] <bronaugh> not a clue. I must have burned it a while ago.
[12:39] <Zaire> I figured its working so far
[12:39] <Yaccin> bronaugh: hmmm then its probably an older one...
[12:40] <bronaugh> yeah; I gave the kernel version, if that's any help.
[12:40] <Yaccin> try control+alt+F1 to see wich version you have and control+alt+F7 (?) to get back to your desktop
[12:40] <bronaugh> doesn't say, oddly.
[12:41] <bronaugh> good idea; but no cigar :/
[12:41] <bronaugh> just Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-12-386
[12:41] <Zaire> so whats the diff between kde and kubuntu-desktop anyway...out of curiosity
[12:41] <Yaccin> Zaire: dont ask me :D
[12:41] <Yaccin> bronaugh: o.O
[12:41] <Yaccin> bronaugh: i would recommend downloading a new cd :D
[12:41] <bronaugh> it very well may be some ancient beta.
[12:42] <Zaire> yea like isn't that breezy lol
[12:42] <bronaugh> yeah, I'd do that, if a) one of my CDs would detect the SATA disks in this comp, and b) if I could burn a CD while using the CD drive the CD burning software is being loaded from :P
[12:43] <Zaire> Im running kernel 2.6.15-26-386
[12:43] <bronaugh> 0000:00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8251 AHCI/SATA 4-Port Controller
[12:43] <bronaugh> surprised there's no support in 2.6.15 for it.
[12:43] <Zaire> linux hasn't really given me a hard time with onboard stuff
[12:44] <Yaccin> bronaugh: that could be a problem :D
[12:45] <bronaugh> yeah; so you see the dilemma a bit more clearly now :P
[12:46] <Zaire> what kind of board is that?
[12:46] <bronaugh> A8V-MX
[12:46] <Zaire> brand?
[12:46] <bronaugh> Asus.
[12:46] <Zaire> ah
[12:46] <bronaugh> basically, it's an all-Via board with onboard video, AGP, and PCIe
[12:46] <Zaire> Ive heard good and bad things about them....mines a Gigabyte sAM2
[12:47] <bronaugh> I had very little trouble getting an identical (literally) box to this going with an AMD64 CD.
[12:47] <ehird> where do i go to pass a law forcing ISPs to say their speeds in bytes, not bits? it's 128 KB/sec, not 1 Mb/sec!
[12:47] <bronaugh> networking is expressed in multiples of bits per second; deal.
[12:48] <Zaire> ah amd 64 thats a tricky one
[12:48] <bronaugh> not so much; I've installed a few boxes by now.
[12:48] <Zaire> software limitations on 64 bit OS
[12:48] <bronaugh> *shrug* I don't care so much.
[12:48] <Zaire> anyway brb gonna switch to kde now
[12:49] <ehird> i remember my humbler times, when i was just finding out about this internet thingy, and I was confused why I was getting 3 KB/sec instead of the "promised" 32 Kb/sec :P
[12:49] <bronaugh> ok... so it is an AHCI chipset. just doesn't have the PCI ID added for it, apparently.
[12:51] <GazzaK> erm, quick question - is there a surefire way to replace konquerer with firefox, including being the default opener for xchat urls?
[12:51] <ehird> GazzaK: why would you want to do that?
[12:52] <Zaire> and it worked nicely
[12:52] <Healot> GazzaK: set Firefox as default browser
[12:52] <bronaugh> so apparently, 2.6.17 at least for this sata chipset.
[12:53] <bronaugh> I installed kubunu 6.06 on the other machine; what kernel is that?
[12:53] <bronaugh> 2.6.17 with patches?
[12:53] <ehird> is there something like kde-core but for xfce?
[12:53] <ehird> xubuntu-desktop is huge
[12:54] <Zaire> xubuntu is lightweight...I kinda like fluxbox better though
[12:54] <bronaugh> ok.. so here's where it gets kinky.
[12:54] <Zaire> the bedroom? lol
[12:54] <bronaugh> can I set up a DHCP server and tftp server to serve up a kernel to my laptop?
[12:54] <bronaugh> on this kubuntu livecd
[12:54] <fildo> hey how can i change system time thru bash
[12:55] <ehird> it's lightweight but xubuntu-desktop is 100mb
[12:55] <bronaugh> yeah.. I bet I can. muahahaha
[12:55] <bronaugh> tftpd-hpa and dhcpd
[12:55] <bronaugh> damn, CoW is sexy.
[12:55] <GazzaK> ehird~ I want to do that as konq doesn't seem to support java and flash too well
[12:56] <Zaire> cow?
[12:56] <ehird> GazzaK: get the flash 9 beta
[12:56] <GazzaK> Healot~ but last time I tried this, xchat still opened url links in konq
[12:56] <bronaugh> Copy on Write
[12:56] <ehird> xchat: its a preference
[12:56] <ehird> it'll be the same with firefox too
[12:56] <Zaire> ah
[12:56] <ehird> flash is shared
[12:56] <ehird> konq is nicely intergrated
[12:56] <ehird> now... brb while i try fluxbox :D
[12:57] <GazzaK> okay, hopefully it is better since kubuntu 5.10 (last time I tried kubuntu)
[12:58] <Zaire> flux is decent
[12:58] <bronaugh> I'll just bootstrap my laptop using kubuntu kernel.
[12:58] <bronaugh> kinda sick and twisted, but hey -- whatever gets the job done.
[12:58] <Zaire> I like flux better the way its setup on damn small linux
[12:58] <bronaugh> I like ratpoison.
[12:59] <Zaire> IM more of a scotch guy myself lol
[12:59] <linopil> what is /etc/rcS.d in ubuntu for ?
[01:00] <bronaugh> system crap.
[01:00] <bronaugh> starts in all run levels.
[01:02] <linopil> !isapnp
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isapnp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <bronaugh> hell
[01:02] <bronaugh> that is a short summary of isapnp
[01:03] <linopil> any guru ? where do I put isapnp in boot scripts
[01:03] <bronaugh> you don't.
[01:03] <bronaugh> you buy hardware created in the last 8 years instead.
[01:03] <linopil> bronaugh: what ?
[01:03] <bronaugh> it's seriously way, way, more pain than it is worth.
[01:04] <linopil> I know bronaugh, still you dont know me. If windows does it linux will too. get the idea?
[01:04] <ilgattotrino> anyone is having problems with the last flash player ok konqueror(edgy)?
[01:04] <linopil> alsa is documented but somewhat difficult to find the solution
[01:05] <Zaire> well its 6 am I better get to bed
[01:05] <bronaugh> so you have an isapnp sound card?
[01:05] <bronaugh> you're aware that there's kernel support for isapnp now?
[01:05] <Zaire> laters
[01:05] <bronaugh> and that -most- drivers that support ISA cards will consult the tables the kernel dredges up?
[01:05] <bronaugh> later Zaire
[01:05] <linopil> is  trol a succesful nick ?
[01:06] <linopil> bronaugh:  it worked
[01:06] <linopil> updates make it dissappear
[01:06] <linopil> bad bad updates
[01:08] <linopil> is  << Ctrl ALt -numpad + >>metacity feature (gnome) or also KDE to chg resolution ?
[01:08] <bronaugh> it's an X feature
[01:09] <linopil> bronaugh: so it works on any window manager . ty
[01:09] <sb9> anyone who can help me ?
[01:10] <bronaugh> yeah.
[01:10] <kdefrysk> !ask
[01:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:10] <linopil> maybe sb9
[01:10] <sb9> i want to modify the bash prompt of a foreign bash
[01:10] <linopil> just to distinguish sb9 , right ?
[01:11] <sb9> one moment
[01:13] <bronaugh> gotta say... kubuntu live CD useful.
[01:13] <bronaugh> even a broken old one.
[01:14] <linopil> restarting to switch from metacity to kde
[01:17] <killswitch92> how do i get rid of the login screen on kubuntu when its installed?
[01:20] <Al> Yo, how do I stop KDE storing my session?
[01:22] <killswitch92> how do i get rid of the login screen on kubuntu when its installed?
[01:22] <kdefrysk> killswitch92, systemsettings > advanced > login manager
[01:22] <killswitch92> i went in there but i dont know what to do
[01:22] <kdefrysk> killswitch92,  got to adminmode
[01:22] <kdefrysk> killswitch92, select convenience
[01:22] <killswitch92> then what
[01:23] <kdefrysk> then tic enble autologin
[01:23] <kdefrysk> and apply
[01:23] <kdefrysk> done
[01:23] <sb9> ok once more, iwant to modify an active bash from a foreign bash
[01:23] <sb9> is this possible
[01:23] <sb9> e.g. modifying prompt colour
[01:23] <killswitch92> omg thank u so much, i tried deleting my own account which didnt work and now i have to reinstall it =/
[01:24] <kdefrysk> Al, you also to systemsettings > advanced
[01:24] <kdefrysk> Al, select session manager
[01:24] <sb9> maybe there is a config file which is read for every new line in the bash
[01:24] <kdefrysk> Al, and tic on login > start with an empty session
[01:25] <sb9> any clue anyone ?
[01:25] <Al> Hm... my system settings has no "advanced"
[01:26] <kdefrysk> al on top you see overview general and advanced
[01:26] <kdefrysk> klick the advanced tab
[01:26] <kdefrysk> next to the advanced tab you see a "search"
[01:26] <Al> No tabs here...
[01:26] <Al> I have a search
[01:26] <Al> And a "show all" button, which is grey because this is that page
[01:27] <kdefrysk> no advanced on the left from there ?
[01:27] <kdefrysk> Al, witch kde you on ?
[01:27] <ehird> my brb was extended :O
[01:27] <rhodri> hi, how do i start an application using kde's launch feedback?  is there an easy way?  thanks.
[01:27] <ehird> i'mcurrently playing lbreakout2 in fluxbox :p
[01:27] <killswitch92> i have a question
[01:28] <kdefrysk> Al, otherwise open kcontrol
[01:28] <kdefrysk> same stuff different setup
[01:28] <Al> 3.5.2
[01:28] <kdefrysk> opend kcontrol ?
[01:28] <kdefrysk> open kdecomponents
[01:29] <kdefrysk> and then session manager and set it there to your desired setting
[01:29] <killswitch92> i deleted my account and cant login, is there a way to turn off the login without being able to login?
[01:30] <kdefrysk> geez
[01:30] <Al> Found it there, thanks.
[01:30] <kdefrysk> killswitch92, man useradd
[01:31] <bronaugh> ok, fun begins.
[01:31] <killswitch92> useradd?
[01:32] <killswitch92> im at a login screen right now, what do i do?
[01:32] <Telroth_Plushie|> can you reboot into recovery mode?
[01:33] <killswitch92> i tried an it stays in like a command prompt
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> good.
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> do that.
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> when it comes up
[01:33] <Telroth_Plushie|> adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home=/home/<olduser>/
[01:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> where <olduser> is the username you had before you deleted it
[01:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> errr
[01:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/
[01:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> do you remember your user id?
[01:35] <kdefrysk> sudo adduser
[01:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> kdefrysk, he can't log in.
[01:35] <kdefrysk> yes but he needs to use sudo to run useradd
[01:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> nope
[01:35] <kdefrysk> nope ?
[01:35] <Telroth_Plushie|> recovery console drops you at a root prompt
[01:36] <kdefrysk> he is root ?
[01:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> root doesn't need sudo
[01:36] <octan> a smp system is more than 1 cpu right?
[01:36] <kdefrysk> ah of course sorry
[01:36] <killswitch92> so i type exactly adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/ ?
[01:36] <kdefrysk> octan, generic suopports also smp
[01:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> killswitch92,
[01:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> have you rebooted into the recovery console?
[01:36] <killswitch92> yea
[01:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> and how many users are on the system?
[01:36] <octan> kdefrysk, that didnt anwser my question
[01:36] <Telroth_Plushie|> was it just you?
[01:37] <octan> generic? you mean the kernel?
[01:37] <killswitch92> yea but i deleted my account =/
[01:37] <Telroth_Plushie|> ok
[01:37] <octan> kdefrysk, so smp is more than 1 cpu?
[01:37] <Telroth_Plushie|> adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/ -uid 1000
[01:37] <killswitch92> thats y i cant login
[01:37] <Telroth_Plushie|> err
[01:37] <Telroth_Plushie|> adduser <olduser> --no-create-home --home /home/<olduser>/ --uid 1000
[01:37] <Telroth_Plushie|> that should restore all your files
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> and recreate your user so you can log in
[01:38] <killswitch92> so i type exactly that?
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> yes
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> well
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> not exactly
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> everywhere you see <olduser>
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> replace it with your username
[01:38] <kdefrysk> octan, yes
[01:38] <killswitch92> k
[01:38] <octan> alright
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> i.e. if my username is telroth
[01:38] <octan> :)
[01:38] <Telroth_Plushie|> adduser telroth --no-create-home --home /home/telroth/ --uid 1000
[01:39] <killswitch92> k
[01:39] <Telroth_Plushie|> killswitch92,
[01:39] <killswitch92> let me try
[01:39] <Telroth_Plushie|> wait
[01:39] <killswitch92> k
[01:40] <Telroth_Plushie|> type "ls -l /home/<olduser>/" (replace <olduser> as before)
[01:40] <Telroth_Plushie|> is your username listed as the owner of the files?
[01:40] <octan> so my main Qestion.. i have been told that in IPTABLES the "owner" --owner-cmd Option has been taked out because it brok on a smp system,, will it still not work on a singel based cpu system.
[01:40] <killswitch92> yea
[01:40] <octan> ?
[01:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> killswitch92, then you can reboot and login now. you might need to fiddle with the groups
[01:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> let me know when the system comes back up and you are logged in
[01:42] <kdefrysk> kuser can do the groupstuff
[01:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> i know
[01:42] <kdefrysk> if oyu like gui that is
[01:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> i'm looking through the groups for my user, and i think we should have added him to the "admin" group while in recovery mode
[01:43] <kdefrysk> admin and wheel are most important
[01:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> cuz he can't sudo without?
[01:44] <kdefrysk> ermmmm
[01:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> (there is no wheel on my system)
[01:44] <kdefrysk> forgot about sudo
[01:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> i think you have to be in admin group to sudo
[01:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> yup
[01:45] <Telroth_Plushie|> he's going to have to reboot again >.>
[01:45] <kdefrysk> hehe
[01:52] <Legion> I have an external NTFS disk. Is it true that Linux only supports read?
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> !ntfs | Legion
[01:52] <ubotu> Legion: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> !fuse | Legion
[01:52] <ubotu> Legion: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:52] <vyoman> in samba workgroup (linux + win2k) do you enable WINS support or configure samba to be a WINS server?
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> that's what you want, fuse, personally I have seen nothing to prove it's unsafe, ton's of people use it, including me, and I haven't had any problems.
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> although my use is moderate at best.
[01:53] <ubuntu> yeah, you know what? kernel panics -- not cool.
[01:54] <[GuS] > Bon Jour les gens..
[01:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> Legion,
[01:55] <bronaugh> having only one machine in the house that will boot is also not cool; particularly when that machine can't access disks due to stupid Via.
[01:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> err, nvm
[01:55] <bronaugh> (but no; I'm not bitter at all)
[01:56] <Telroth_Plushie|> load an older kernel?
[01:56] <bronaugh> I need newer, not older; and I'm on a LiveCD.
[01:56] <bronaugh> thus I can't burn a new CD.
[01:56] <bronaugh> since I can't access my disks, I can't install.
[01:56] <bronaugh> since I can't install, I can't burn another CD
[01:57] <bronaugh> since I can't burn another CD, I can't boot a different kernel.
[01:57] <Legion> In this day and age, isn't it strange that there isn't full support for a format that can handle files bigger than the 4 Gig limit that FAT has`
[01:57] <Legion> ?
[01:57] <faderhval> how do i use a ISO file in Kubuntu??
[01:57] <bronaugh> burn the fucker using k3b
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> !language | bronaugh
[01:58] <ubotu> bronaugh: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> bronaugh: if any ops saw that, it wouldn't be fun...
[01:59] <bronaugh> *shrug* ok.
[02:00] <bronaugh> I'm just a little bit pissy right now.
[02:00] <Telroth_Plushie|> Legion, ext3? reiserfs? reiser4?
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> bronaugh: understand. I'm a potty mouth too, but to keep the channel friendly to people who are easily offended, don't want to make them not feel comfortable here and not get the help they need.
[02:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> bronaugh, ok, you're on a livecd. why can't you access your disks? you mentioned "via", but i have no clue what that is.
[02:01] <Legion> I often use less flattering words when I'm angry, but it's simply a matter of getting used to not doing i in this chan
[02:01] <LeeJunFan> via chipset
[02:01] <Telroth_Plushie|> ah.
[02:01] <bronaugh> Via 8251 southbridge; has a SATA controller that isn't supported in either the Kubuntu livecd I have or my Debian install CD.
[02:02] <bronaugh> it's theoretically AHCI, but the Linux AHCI driver, unpatched, does not support it -- at least up to 2.6.17.
[02:02] <Telroth_Plushie|> you can install software to the live environment while on the livecd. can you gain support by installing a package?
[02:03] <derphil> hi. Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03 <- whats wrong with it?
[02:03] <faderhval> any suggestions for a DVD player for kubuntu??
[02:03] <bronaugh> Telroth_Plushie|: without installing kernel source and building a replacement kernel module, I don't think so.
[02:03] <bronaugh> and I am limited to 250M of crap, so that's going to be more than a little tight.
[02:03] <LeeJunFan> no, that's what you'd need. And unless someone already provides one it'd be a real chore.
[02:03] <bronaugh> plus, I'm suffering from random crashes on this LiveCD (kernel panics) which makes it even more not-fun.
[02:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> :(
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> faderhval: kaffiene or vlc
[02:04] <LeeJunFan> faderhval: xine-ui, mplayer, to name a few
[02:04] <Telroth_Plushie|> (i personally recommend kaffeine)
[02:05] <faderhval> do i need a plugin for kaffeine for it to work?
[02:05] <LeeJunFan> I like vlc, but mostly only switched away from kaffeine myself because kaffeine works for crap in Xgl/Beryl environment.
[02:05] <Telroth_Plushie|> faderhval, if it's a commercial dvd (a movie you bought at a store) yes. however, using that plugin in the us is illegal.
[02:06] <bronaugh> ... which is idiotic. but that's beside the point.
[02:06] <LeeJunFan> !dvd | faderhval
[02:06] <ubotu> faderhval: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:06] <faderhval> well i live in denmark :)
[02:08] <LeeJunFan> Yeah, well contrary to popular believe America is not the land of the free. It's the land of the people dumb enough to think they are free.
[02:08] <LeeJunFan> belief
[02:08] <LeeJunFan> but that's a topic for another channel I guess :p
[02:08] <faderhval> hehe
[02:09] <Legion> faderhval: I thought that name made sense in danish hehe
[02:09] <Legion> I live in Denmark too
[02:10] <faderhval> hehe :) well (hejsa) then :)
[02:11] <faderhval> where abouts do you live Legion?
[02:11] <Legion> Copenhagen
[02:11] <Telroth_Plushie|> LeeJunFan, wrong.
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> Telroth_Plushie|: huh?
[02:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> LeeJunFan, it's the land where we have the freedom to be dumb.
[02:12] <SortOfThing> great. Hi kids
[02:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's just a lot of people use that freedom :/
[02:12] <faderhval> :)
[02:12] <LeeJunFan> Telroth_Plushie|: hehe, that's about the only one. The constitution is lip service, and our gov't will disregard it at their convenience.
[02:12] <Legion> faderhval: how about you?
[02:13] <faderhval> hmm i can play the DVD alight but the menu is not working!
[02:13] <faderhval> i Live in jutland near Skjern
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> faderhval: you might need to install libdvdnav
[02:14] <kdefrysk> J
[02:14] <LeeJunFan> Well, guess I better get in the shower. Gotta go give Linux lessons to the library staff here this morning.
[02:14] <faderhval> its already installed....
[02:19] <Legion> Does Ubuntu/Kbunutu have a specific disk format it uses?
[02:20] <apokryphos> ext3 is default
[02:22] <Legion> does Linux itself take steps to reduce fragmentation? Because wikipedia is pretty confident that no defragmentation tool exists for ext3
[02:24] <Tm_T> Legion: When your fsck claims over 10 % fragmentation, ping me.
[02:24] <Tm_T> I haven't ever seen more than 3 % in my system.
[02:24] <Tm_T> Legion: So I think my answer would be "yes". :)
[02:25] <Legion> hehe
[02:25] <Legion> thanks
[02:25] <ecadre> Legion: fragmentation is not a real problem on ext3, Windows files systems fragment because of the bizarre way they write to disk
[02:25] <Legion> I'm rather new to Linux. I haven't even installed it yet. I've always felt that it was better to investigate first instead of just charging in and going "Awwww damn!"
[02:26] <Tm_T> Legion: That very good philosophy, learning first isn't that bad. :)
[02:27] <Telroth_Plushie|> shame everyone else doesn't realize that and employ that philosophy.
[02:27] <Legion> (Yes, I'm the camper/sniper whom you love to run into in your fav FPS =) )
[02:28] <linopil> ecadre:  and if I  delete many little files then write a bif  file (movie)  how continuous  it will be ?
[02:28] <ecadre> you can learn as you go along, just be prepared read, solve problems and don't be pushy/rude to people who may help you
[02:28] <linopil> how can you  prove fragmentation  is not a problem  in ext3 ?
[02:29] <ecadre> linopil: sorry, no real idea :-)
[02:30] <linopil> many years ago Microsoft was not yet ready  with defrag   for NT4 and claimed it was not a problem
[02:30] <ecadre> linopil: erm how about "there are no defragmentaion tools for ext3"  ;_)
[02:30] <Legion> It seems that it's pretty straight forward to convert forth and back between ext2 and ext3, and ext2 does have a fsck tool
[02:30] <linopil> ext3 is a journalled ext2 !!
[02:31] <Legion> The ext2 and ext3 file systems share the same standard set of utilities, e2fsprogs, which includes a fsck tool. The close relationship also makes conversion between the two file systems (both forward to ext3 and backward to ext2) straightforward.
[02:32] <Legion> quoted from wikipedia
[02:32] <Tm_T> Yes.
[02:34] <linopil> !windows-media
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windows-media - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> yeah, there really is no conversion between ext2 and 3 just the adding or removal of the journal. You can mount ext3 as ext2 even, it just doesn't make use of the journal then.
[02:37] <octan> Hey
[02:38] <Legion> The ext3 file system adds, over its predecessor:
[02:38] <Legion>     * A journal
[02:38] <Legion>     * Tree-based directory indexes for directories spanning multiple blocks
[02:38] <Legion>     * Online filesystem growth
[02:38] <linopil> any idea how to  install kopete handbook?
[02:42] <iarwain> Hiya, does anybody know the "cafe" around here? (the #room to it)
[02:44] <Legion> Don't know it, but you can always try something like "/list *ubuntu*" and then take it from there
[02:45] <iarwain> legion: will try that, thanks ;-)
[02:53] <thelostbyte_> Anyone here doing vb ?
[02:56] <Legion> I just took a test online to find out what Linux would be best for me. It said Mandriva, Ubuntu or Kubuntu hehe
[02:57] <ScarFreewill> Legoin where did you do the test?
[02:57] <ScarFreewill> *Legion
[02:58] <Legion> hang on, I'll get the link for you
[02:59] <shape> guys i have to install real player
[02:59] <shape> but i can't find it in repository
[02:59] <Legion> Here we go! http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php/
[02:59] <shape> anyone could give me a trick?
[02:59] <ScarFreewill> thx
[03:00] <shape> i'm on a kubuntu edy eft
[03:00] <ScarFreewill> shape, i don't know that much about real player but i guess you can read a bit about mplayer or helix think
[03:01] <shape> ok what about helix?
[03:01] <ScarFreewill> i guess you can try that but i'd advise you to check if mplayer will do the job first
[03:02] <thelostbyte_> shape, mplayer can do the job..
[03:02] <thelostbyte_> shape, or do.. sudo apt-get install helix-player
[03:02] <shape> ok i'm trying .thanks
[03:04] <murchadh> shape: Try here http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/69835-installing-realplayer.html
[03:04] <Legion> ScarFreewill: Did you get a result yet?
[03:04] <murchadh> shape: antidrugue has a post on it!
[03:04] <blackflag> I wnat to start c programming and I want to know if there is a IDE for it?
[03:04] <linopil> \o difference  between adept and synaptic what advantages on each ?
[03:05] <shape> i'm seeing
[03:05] <ScarFreewill> Legion, i have not even started yet ;)
[03:05] <intelikey> blackflag kdevelop maybe
[03:05] <intelikey> !ide
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:05] <ScarFreewill> !development
[03:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:06] <intelikey> !kdevelop3
[03:06] <ubotu> kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[03:06] <intelikey> !kdevelop3 dapper
[03:06] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[03:07] <blackflag> okay , thanks. Im using edgy and I only find kdevelop without 3
[03:07] <Daskreech> Admiral_Chicago: Yo
[03:08] <intelikey> if you can call that an ide.  it's little more than an exhaulted text editor.
[03:08] <Daskreech> Isn't that what all IDE's are ?
[03:08] <ScarFreewill> blackflag, maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/programming.html
[03:09] <blackflag> what can you recommend for starting c programming
[03:10] <intelikey> #C  or  #C++  and expect them to be abusive.
[03:11] <Daskreech> blackflag: try browsing ftp.gnu.org and pulling code
[03:11] <blackflag> hmm, kdevelop seems to be the tool of choice, or?
[03:12] <intelikey> blackflag make sure you have  build-essential  installed.  and yes tool of choice.
[03:14] <shape> i've just installed helix player
[03:14] <shape> but i wish to mset it as default on my firefox browser
[03:16] <GnarusLeo> Hi! Has anyone managed to get "Second Life" to run smoothly in ubuntu? My 3D drivers should be fine (ppracer works great!), and I have a ATI 9000, and a 1,5ghz Pentium. But still its almost impossible to do stuff with the character, and it seems as if my computer is about about to explode :)
[03:16] <blackflag> okay, friends. thanks. Imgoing to start my first "hello World" in C
[03:16] <Jucato> nice. compile it from the command line first. it's a good experience :)
[03:17] <Legion> I almost think I know the code for Hello World in C by heart hehe
[03:17] <ScarFreewill> Legion, i get Kubuntu, Mandriva, Debian
[03:17] <Jucato> blackflag: tip: leave one blank line after the last }
[03:17] <GnarusLeo> sys.outprintln("Hello World") :) Or was that java even ..
[03:17] <Jucato> or you're going to get warnings
[03:18] <Jucato> std::cout << "Hello Kubuntu!!\n";
[03:18] <shape> i try to explain my problem
[03:18] <Legion> system.io.println("Hello World"); would be the correct java as far as I recal
[03:18] <blackflag> why is a blank line necassary?
[03:18] <shape> i wish tolisten the radio
[03:18] <shape> like for example bbc
[03:18] <Jucato> blackflag: ISO/ANSI standards I think
[03:18] <shape> but i need real player
[03:18] <ScarFreewill> GnarusLeo, system.out.println("Hello World"); is java
[03:18] <Daskreech> !real
[03:18] <Legion> hehe I was close at least
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <GnarusLeo> there we are :) Its been ages since ive done some programming :)
[03:19] <shape> i know that konqueror has kmplayer as default but it doesn't seem to woek
[03:19] <Daskreech> !realplayer
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <Legion> using Eclipse has stunted my memory when it comes to Java
[03:19] <ScarFreewill> lol
[03:19] <GnarusLeo> so, anyone know whats up with second life? Has anyone managed to get it run smoothly?
[03:19] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Hi
[03:20] <Daskreech> GnarusLeo: Nope still trying that with First life
[03:20] <GnarusLeo> Daskreech, hehe .. clever .)
[03:20] <BluesKaj> Hiyas ALL ! :)
[03:20] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech
[03:21] <Legion> I've stopped playing First Life. My account keeps getting buffer underflow
[03:22] <BluesKaj> hey guys , this is funny : http://www.msfirefox.com/
[03:22] <Jucato> old news :)
[03:23] <ehird> ...  i just spent like three hours playing lbreakout2
[03:23] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: http://www.ie7.com
[03:23] <Daskreech> What?
[03:23] <Daskreech> When did java go GPL?
[03:24] <Daskreech> >_<
[03:24] <Daskreech> Noone tells me anything
[03:24] <ehird> like a week ago
[03:24] <Daskreech> Does it have an effective date?
[03:24] <ScarFreewill> OMMS!!
[03:24] <BluesKaj> it's a spoof :)
[03:24] <Daskreech> Like the next release or is it retroactive?
[03:24] <ehird> BluesKaj: no, it isn't..?
[03:25] <BluesKaj> prolly be hearing from bill Gates's lawyer very soon :)
[03:25] <ScarFreewill> seroisly is java GPLed??
[03:25] <Guardian> hi
[03:25] <ehird> intelikey: i've improved it with automatic garbage collection! :D echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n[ "$1" = "hello" ]  && echo "Hell-o $USER" && rm helloworld' >> helloworld ;chmod 755 helloworld ;./helloworld hello
[03:25] <BluesKaj> err lawyers
[03:25] <ehird> ScarFreewill: yes
[03:25] <Guardian> i thought there were a kvim
[03:25] <Guardian> vim for kde
[03:25] <Guardian> but i can't find any package
[03:26] <ehird> kde-vim or vimkde, i've heard of it
[03:26] <intelikey> ehird so you did.  kinda expands the exrocise in futility doesn't it.... :)
[03:26] <ehird> but apparently it isnt in the repos and i cant find a source download
[03:26] <ehird> intelikey: can i expand it with kdialog support?
[03:26] <intelikey> sure.
[03:27] <Guardian> ehird: neither can i
[03:27] <intelikey> ehird you can do anything you want to it.  it's gun-gpl  :)
[03:27] <Daskreech> ScarFreewill: `http://www.sun.com
[03:27] <ehird> intelikey: i prefer public domain D:
[03:27] <ehird> .. :P
[03:27] <ehird> however, Gun GPL sounds nice.
[03:27] <ScarFreewill> where can i find more inforamtion about sun java oms you answerd my question before i asked it rofl
[03:28] <ehird> "you may shoot this gun provided you share any blood wrought with it"
[03:28] <GnarusLeo> What is "composite"? Like when I use fglrx and so on? I have it disabled, is that bad?
[03:28] <intelikey> ehird public domain doesn't ensure the source remain free....
[03:28] <guglielf> hi guys, let's say i'm interested in bash programming
[03:28] <ehird> intelikey: Good for them!
[03:28] <guglielf> is there way to know all the channels having bash as subject?
[03:28] <ehird> Unfortunately, it'd just be their copy that's non-free.
[03:28] <guglielf> i mean on irc
[03:28] <ehird> Anyone else could take the original and mod it still
[03:29] <ehird> guglielf: try #bash
[03:29] <Daskreech> ehird: You'd be surprised how easily you can convince people that they have to pay for something that's public domain
[03:29] <Daskreech> there is nothing stating that you have to educate them that they can get it for free
[03:30] <intelikey> ehird yeah until bill patens != and all code becomes propritary.....  :)
[03:30] <guglielf> ehird: ok know that, another one?
[03:30] <ehird> but would they even want a kdialog hello world?
[03:30] <Daskreech> ehird: GPL at least ensures they know  that they can obtain a free copy
[03:30] <shape> in the guide you gave to me
[03:30] <intelikey> guglielf /help list
[03:30] <shape> there's how install realplayer
[03:31] <shape> but it is a bout dapper drake
[03:31] <intelikey> guglielf or /msg chanserv list
[03:31] <shape> infact when i try to manage the repository
[03:31] <intelikey> guglielf or /msg chanserv help list
[03:31] <guglielf> intelikey: tnx
[03:31] <shape> anf try to find the realplayer package
[03:31] <shape> i can't find it
[03:31] <hastesaver> shape, I've heard realplayer is there in ubuntu-commercial
[03:33] <intelikey> guglielf also your irc client probably has online help that can be more specific on a particular search type.
[03:33] <BluesKaj> intelikey, why does dapper offer a more up to date devede prog than edgy ...any ideas
[03:33] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:33] <guglielf> intelikey:  i'll check right away
[03:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj i don't think it does.
[03:34] <guglielf> intelikey: i use konversation
[03:34] <intelikey> !info kdevelop3 dapper
[03:34] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[03:34] <intelikey> !info kdevelop
[03:34] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[03:34] <BluesKaj> well, check out the repos ...it's 2.1 in edy and 2.3 or 2.4 in dapper
[03:35] <ehird> kdialog --yesno "blah" returns nothing no matter what o_O
[03:35] <LjL> ehird: not here
[03:35] <LjL> ehird: returns 0 if yes, 1 if no
[03:36] <ehird> I'm getting nilch here
[03:36] <intelikey> BluesKaj devede ?
[03:36] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:36] <intelikey> devede is not in standard ubuntu repos.
[03:36] <intelikey> !devede
[03:36] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[03:36] <LjL> ehird: try "echo $?"
[03:36] <intelikey> !devede dapper
[03:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devede dapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:36] <LjL> ehird: it "returns" as in "returns an exit value", not as in "prints something on stdout"
[03:37] <ehird> odd, kdialog's always echoed everything ELSE to stdout..
[03:37] <intelikey> BluesKaj i don't know where you got the one for dapper.....
[03:38] <shape> please give me the commercial repository link
[03:38] <shape> for edy eft kubuntu
[03:38] <intelikey> !repos
[03:38] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:38] <LjL> ehird: well i guess for most other dialogs returning an exit value wouldn't be feasible (think textbox)
[03:38] <shape> i have to add it to my replist
[03:38] <BluesKaj> yeah i've forgotten , intelikey...was surfing and found a repos somewhere ...I'm old and my memory sucks :(
[03:38] <intelikey> shape  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:38] <intelikey> read there ^
[03:39] <shape> yes but it talks about dapper drake rep
[03:39] <shape> i need edgy eft commercial rep
[03:39] <intelikey> BluesKaj it's probably from the debian sid repos  that would be more "up to date" than ubuntu seeing it's upstream
[03:40] <BluesKaj> ok intelikey, i'll check there
[03:40] <intelikey> shape deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hoary-commercial main
[03:41] <shape> hoary?
[03:41] <Jucato> hoary?
[03:41] <shape> :)
[03:41] <intelikey> or deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu breezy-commercial main
[03:41] <intelikey> or deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main
[03:41] <octan> why do i get error if i use -A INPUT -p all --dport X -j DROP but not if i do -A INPUT -p tcp --dport X -j DROP
[03:41] <Jucato> dapper-commercial only
[03:41] <intelikey> get the idea ?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> No need to paste all that.  Just use dapper since that's all he wants/needs
[03:41] <shape> oh i think so
[03:41] <Jucato> intelikey: only dapper has a commercial repo. edgy has one, but last I checked, it's empty
[03:42] <bot12gb> please kubuntu spanish?
[03:42] <intelikey> Jucato i was only pointing out how the repo listings work.
[03:42] <Jucato> ah
[03:42] <Jucato> !es | bot12gb
[03:42] <ubotu> bot12gb: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:42] <shape> intelikey
[03:42] <shape> you were right it
[03:43] <shape> i've just got realplayer
[03:43] <shape> thank budy
[03:43] <shape> ;)
[03:43] <intelikey> np
[03:43] <intelikey> Jucato report on that publicly please.
[03:44] <Jucato> yep, still empty...
[03:44] <intelikey> k   ty.
[03:44] <shape> if you go on in this way everyone will leave window to gopass to ubuntu
[03:44] <Jucato> hm...
[03:44] <Daskreech> gopass?
[03:45] <intelikey> shape thanks for the warning.    "ALSA WE MUST CHANGE COURSE !"
[03:45] <shape> there's a problem the package is broken
[03:45] <shape> soi try toinstall the .bin package
[03:45] <shape> what kind of command i have to use
[03:45] <shape> =
[03:46] <Daskreech> ./package.bonm
[03:46] <Daskreech> package.bin
[03:46] <intelikey> chmod 555 *.bin ;./*.bin
[03:46] <[GuS] > anyone knows a nice webcam stream for linux... but not camstream or VLC... i need to take pics avery X seconds or minutes
[03:46] <beefsprocket> ekiga?
[03:46] <[GuS] > ?
[03:47] <[GuS] > do you things that Ekiga could takes pics every X seconds for upload into a web?
[03:47] <[GuS] > :P
[03:47] <[GuS] > not... thats not.
[03:49] <BluesKaj> [GuS] , http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/gtkcamshot
[03:50] <[GuS] > nope.. that either.. i need one under console execution
[03:50] <[GuS] > i forgot the dame... damn
[03:50] <intelikey> !language
[03:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:51] <[GuS] > intelikey, ?
[03:51] <ehird> damn is bad language? since when?
[03:51] <[GuS] > ehird, same thing i am asking..
[03:51] <[GuS] > intelikey, and i ask to you, please use your time for better things :)
[03:56] <kjelderg_> if xset says the screensaver is not enabled and kde says the screensaver is not enabled, why is the screensaver enabled and more importantly how do I disable it?
[03:57] <intelikey> kjelderg_ is it xscreensaver or is it power management that is enabled ?
[03:57] <kdefrysk> systemsettings >desktop >screensaver
[03:57] <kjelderg_> it shows a big white X sometimes
[03:59] <instructor> Argh
[03:59] <instructor> !monitor
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:59] <instructor> !display
[03:59] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:00] <instructor> 640x480 as the only option really doesn't cut it
[04:00] <kjelderg_> instructor: try editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and adding more modes
[04:00] <kjelderg_> should be in the screen section
[04:01] <instructor> The monitor isn't there
[04:01] <instructor>  it's a new monitor
[04:01] <instructor>  I don't see it in the options
[04:01] <intelikey> instructor sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:02] <intelikey> instructor or even; sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[04:02] <instructor> -plow?
[04:02] <Morrissey> Hi! Has anyone managed to get "Second Life" to run smoothly in ubuntu? My 3D drivers should be fine (ppracer works great!), and I have a ATI 9000, and a 1,5ghz Pentium. But still its almost impossible to do stuff with the character, and it seems as if my computer is about about to explode :)
[04:02] <intelikey> man dpkg-reconfigure
[04:03] <intelikey> Morrissey i'm not a gamer, don't like/do propriatary krap.  sorry.
[04:04] <intelikey> i started to install nvidia driver here one time.... found the eula unacceptable.  endo of story.
[04:04] <instructor> intelikey: Still doesn't shed light
[04:05] <intelikey> instructor what doesnt ?
[04:06] <intelikey> the man page for dpkg ?
[04:06] <trappist> Morrissey: easy way to know for sure if you're 3d-accelerated -> glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:06] <instructor> dpkg-reconfigure
[04:06] <Morrissey> trappist, glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:06] <Morrissey> it says yes
[04:07] <trappist> Morrissey: so that's good.  could it be that second life (never heard of it) simple has hardware requirements beyond what you have?
[04:07] <Morrissey> nope, thats the reason, it dont :)
[04:07] <Jucato> do you have the proprietary video drivers installed?
[04:07] <BluesKaj> intelikey, http://www.rarewares.org/debian.html ...a bit risky but i found the devede 2.5 version on these repos ...there is some other cutting edge video stuff for the ppl who like to live abit on the edgy :)
[04:08] <instructor> intelikey: dpkg-reconfigure
[04:09] <intelikey> instructor you want do fix xorg to use higher rezolutions    no?
[04:09] <Morrissey> Jucato, yes
[04:09] <instructor> Well yes But I need to redetect my monitor
[04:09] <instructor>  I looked in the listing of monitors and it's not listed there
[04:09] <instructor> can I find an official listing of supported monitors?
[04:10] <intelikey> http://monitorworld.com
[04:10] <instructor> autodetecting gives me back Generic with an upper resolution of 640x480
[04:10] <intelikey> all monitors are supported by x.
[04:10] <instructor> I figure
[04:10] <intelikey> don't autodetect.
[04:10] <instructor>  but I have to know the specs
[04:10] <intelikey> go to that web page and search.
[04:10] <intelikey> http://monitorworld.com
[04:11] <instructor> Going
[04:12] <instructor> Hmm It's not there either
[04:12] <intelikey> instructor also of note.  some monitors have that info on the id tag on the back...   "not a lot nowa days"   most if not all have it listed in the users manual that comes with the new monitor.
[04:13] <instructor> The back is pur black no tags etc
[04:13] <instructor> Hmm wonder if I pull it apart
[04:14] <instructor> Nope just the Model number
[04:14] <intelikey> instructor so use something more generic if you have to.   at the monitor section of the reconfigure process choose simple and select the ctr size   (assumed crt because lcd are all alike i think)
[04:15] <_ita> hi all .. i need to play around with regexps .. on fc3 i had a little tool under kde that let me play with regexps (entering strings, seeing what and if my exp hits...) - can anyone help me remember what that tool is called ?! (or has advice to some other tool !?)
[04:15] <instructor> It's an LCD
[04:15] <intelikey> then select that.  :)
[04:16] <Alter-Ego> ! mp3
[04:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:16] <Alter-Ego> where is the link for auto repository creation
[04:17] <intelikey> !repos | Alter-Ego
[04:17] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:18] <Jucato> !easysource
[04:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:19] <trappist> _ita: kregexpeditor
[04:20] <trappist> _ita: as reported by `apt-cache search regular expression | grep -i kde`
[04:22] <intelikey> kregexpeditor - graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE
[04:23] <_ita> thank you
[04:23] <instructor> intelikey: Hoorah!! 1280x1024 :)
[04:23] <intelikey> see.   see.   si.
[04:23] <intelikey> C
[04:23] <intelikey> :)
[04:24] <kjelderg_> sea?
[04:24] <intelikey> no i get sea sick.
[04:24] <instructor> I'm sick of C as well
[04:24] <intelikey> or maybe i get sea++ sick   ?
[04:24] <trappist> so bad.
[04:25] <intelikey> :)
[04:26] <ubuntu_> hey all
[04:27] <intelikey> ubuntu_ test driving, or did you break something ?
[04:27] <ubuntu_> no
[04:27] <ubuntu_> im a) using kubuntu for the first real time (non live)
[04:27] <ubuntu_> and b) trying to find an m$ replacement
[04:28] <ubuntu_> how do i change my name?
[04:28] <intelikey> man usermod
[04:29] <Rooster> Hello
[04:29] <ubuntu_> eh?
[04:29] <ubuntu_> intelli, were u talkin to me?
[04:29] <ubuntu_> oops
[04:29] <ubuntu_> gotta restart
[04:29] <ubuntu_> brb
[04:29] <intelikey> if man pages are still a bit to cryptic for you.  usermod -l new_login_name
[04:29] <ubuntu_> oh
[04:29] <ubuntu_> u mean in konsole
[04:29] <ubuntu_> man? as in manual?
[04:30] <intelikey> gotta restart ???    yes konsole
[04:30] <ubuntu_> just finished installing
[04:30] <ubuntu_> k
[04:30] <ubuntu_> ill do that when i get back
[04:30] <ubuntu_> might need some guidance, tho
[04:30] <intelikey> ubuntu_ yes   man is the command to access the manual pages
[04:30] <kjelderg_> ubuntu_ or try man://usermod in konqueror
[04:30] <ubuntu_> DOS and Konsole have a huge variance in command lines
[04:30] <instructor> ubuntu_: /nick new_name
[04:30] <ubuntu_> k
[04:30] <ubuntu_> brb all
[04:30] <ubuntu_> l8r
[04:30] <instructor> In IRC :)
[04:31] <intelikey> ubuntu_    being new to manual pages   man man    would be a good idea.
[04:32] <intelikey> i really hope that he/she doesn't leave the username ubuntu  as the root jr. account....
[04:32] <stefania> hi guys
[04:32] <stefania> i have a question for you
[04:33] <stefania> i have used the ncurses installer (the one like debian-installer)
[04:33] <instructor> We have answers
[04:33] <stefania> and found the partitioning tool was very cool
[04:33] <intelikey> gparted
[04:33] <instructor> What's the incrrect answer to this question?
[04:33] <Jucato> ncurses? gparted?
[04:34] <stefania> ncurses
[04:34] <intelikey> Jucato we always have answers.  but correct answers are scarse as hen's teeth.
[04:34] <stefania> i used it to easily create a raid1 array
[04:34] <stefania> now i added 2 more disk to the server
[04:34] <stefania> and want to create a new raid1 array
[04:35] <instructor> LVM?
[04:35] <stefania> i was wondering if i can use the same tool under an installed ubuntu system
[04:35] <stefania> no i want to know the name of the ncurses partitioning tool
[04:35] <stefania> i you can...
[04:36] <stefania> *if
[04:36] <intelikey> stefania parted frontends are gparted qtparted
[04:36] <intelikey> iirc
[04:36] <instructor> eparted! :)
[04:36] <instructor> :-( Man e needs some backing
[04:37] <intelikey> instructor e is new to me.
[04:37] <intelikey> !eparted
[04:37] <stefania> is there anyone that can help here, and that actually is not a bot?
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eparted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <intelikey> stefania two bots here. ubotu and....
[04:37] <intelikey> !stats
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <intelikey> %stats
[04:38] <ubotu> I have 45 registered users with 44 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
[04:38] <instructor> ubugtu I think
[04:38] <stefania> intelikey: are you a bot?
[04:38] <intelikey> the other is gone... one bot here.
[04:38] <instructor> stefania: he preferes autmoated knowledge transfer assistant
[04:38] <instructor> automated even
[04:38] <instructor> ubuntu_: Hi
[04:38] <ubuntu_> holas
[04:38] <octan> with iptables. when i set the policy to drop.. iptables -P INPUT DROP does that also DROP icmp protocole ?
[04:38] <ubuntu_> hola
[04:38] <ubuntu_> holas
[04:39] <ubuntu_> quienme ayuda a instalar!??
[04:39] <instructor> !es | ubuntu_
[04:39] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:39] <ubuntu_> :(
[04:39] <instructor> ubuntu_: ?
[04:40] <intelikey> ubotu are you a bot  :)
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about are you a bot  :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <instructor> !help
[04:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:40] <intelikey> !botsnack
[04:40] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:41] <longsword33733> hey
[04:41] <longsword33733> im back
[04:41] <longsword33733> changed my name
[04:41] <longsword33733> so
[04:41] <longsword33733> ya
[04:41] <longsword33733> figured it out
[04:41] <longsword33733> thx
[04:41] <longsword33733> tho
[04:41] <trappist> !enter
[04:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:41] <intelikey> congrats ubuntu / now longsword33733
[04:41] <longsword33733> how do i install wine?
[04:42] <intelikey> !wine
[04:42] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:42] <longsword33733> is that in the auto updater?
[04:42] <longsword33733> is it free?
[04:42] <intelikey> it is.
[04:42] <Chousuke> the newest version might not be though.
[04:42] <longsword33733> kool
[04:42] <longsword33733> oh
[04:42] <longsword33733> ok
[04:42] <intelikey> read the link ^
[04:42] <longsword33733> ill get an older one then
[04:43] <longsword33733> !wine
[04:43] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:43] <instructor> Chousuke: Why not
[04:43] <trappist> longsword33733: I think he means the newest version might not be in the repos
[04:43] <longsword33733> ahhhhhh
[04:43] <instructor> They are changing the license?
[04:43] <longsword33733> orly?
[04:43] <longsword33733> see
[04:43] <Hawkwind> The newest version is available in the repos
[04:43] <instructor> ah Ok :)
[04:43] <longsword33733> idk how these open source licenses work
[04:43] <Hawkwind> # Bleeding edge wine packages (packages)
[04:43] <Hawkwind> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:43] <longsword33733> all i know is that kubuntu is "software libre"
[04:43] <Hawkwind> Use that, and you'll get the latest
[04:44] <instructor> I thought that they (WineHQ) had thier own Ubuntu repo
[04:44] <Chousuke> instructor: I meant, it might have not been there before edgy eas releaed :)
[04:44] <longsword33733> thx man
[04:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: can I use that on Edgy? :(
[04:44] <Chousuke> but it seems it was.
[04:44] <longsword33733> im not useing edgy
[04:44] <longsword33733> isnt that the one u have to pay for right now?
[04:44] <longsword33733> no
[04:44] <longsword33733> im using dapper
[04:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Just change Dapper to Edgy
[04:45] <Hawkwind> longsword33733: Just use what I pasted, add it to your sources.list
[04:45] <longsword33733> k
[04:45] <longsword33733> thx
[04:45] <longsword33733> !source
[04:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:45] <LjL> pay for?
[04:45] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I don't think they have one for edgy just yet. maybe
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/edgy/main/
[04:45] <longsword33733> i look up ubuntu build releases every few months
[04:45] <Rooster> hello
[04:45] <longsword33733> anfd i saw that canonical wasnt shipping edgy for free
[04:45] <instructor> Is it legal to distribute the source for cedega?
[04:45] <intelikey> longsword33733 then you should read on http://gnu.org to understand the idea of gnu-gpl
[04:46] <longsword33733> whats gnu-gp?
[04:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: oo nice!
[04:46] <Hawkwind> longsword33733: Google.com is a great place to start for those types of questions
[04:46] <longsword33733> ahhhh
[04:46] <intelikey> gnu general public license
[04:46] <instructor> !google
[04:46] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[04:46] <longsword33733> tyty
[04:47] <longsword33733> ya im pretty sure i know all about google
[04:47] <longsword33733> thx tho
[04:47] <Rooster> I'm trying to increase the res on my monitor from 1024 X 768 to 1280 X 1024 but when I got to change it in system preferences the hightest it'll let me set it too is 1024
[04:47] <instructor> !resolution
[04:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:48] <longsword33733> hey wine hq is reccomending an UBUNTU directory (repository) tho im using KUBUNTU
[04:48] <Jucato> Hawkwind: didn't notice they updated their website :)
[04:48] <longsword33733> is there any diff?
[04:48] <Rooster> I have an nVidia graphics card.  Is this problem occuring because I don't have the right drivers installed right now?
[04:48] <instructor> longsword33733: Nope use it with our blessing
[04:48] <intelikey> Rooster sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[04:48] <longsword33733> kool
[04:48] <longsword33733> thx guys
[04:48] <longsword33733> hey hold on
[04:48] <longsword33733> do any of u guys work on the kubuntu dev team or something?
[04:48] <longsword33733> cause i swear...
[04:49] <intelikey> Rooster no.   the nv driver can handle very high res.  but not 3d hardware accel.
[04:49] <intelikey> !nv
[04:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:49] <intelikey> Rooster ^
[04:49] <Rooster> intelikey: Thanks, I'll check this out
[04:49] <longsword33733> so how do i get to the "installer"?
[04:50] <Jucato> wow. Ubuntu's Wine is 3 versions old...
[04:50] <longsword33733> hey will adept adaptyer do it>?
[04:50] <Rooster> I found this:
[04:50] <Rooster> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common
[04:50] <Rooster> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:51] <intelikey> first check the prerequisites.   if you have nvidia card and you need 3d hardware accelleration.   i have nvidia but don't need the 3d,  so i don't install the propritary driver.   (also i refuse the eula on the propritary)
[04:51] <Rooster> in a guide but it screwed up my Xwindows and I had to go back to the live cd to get the proper xorg.config back
[04:52] <shape> guys i need toinstall a .bin file
[04:52] <shape> how can i install it?
[04:52] <intelikey> !repos | longsword33733
[04:52] <ubotu> longsword33733: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:52] <Hawkwind> sh file.bin
[04:52] <intelikey> read there   ^
[04:52] <instructor> longsword33733: Yea it will
[04:52] <Hawkwind> shape: You might have to chmod +x file.bin first
[04:53] <intelikey> chmod 555 *.bin ;./*.bin
[04:54] <Hawkwind> No need for all of that crazy stuff
[04:54] <intelikey> unless you have several .bin files    ....
[04:54] <longsword33733> k thx
[04:54] <Hawkwind> chmod +x file.bin works perfectly
[04:54] <shape> ok i've typed chmod +x
[04:54] <shape> and then?
[04:54] <longsword33733> well... too bad its "busy" at the moment
[04:54] <Hawkwind> sh file.bin
[04:54] <longsword33733> installing updates
[04:54] <longsword33733> ...theres a lot
[04:54] <intelikey> yep
[04:55] <longsword33733> a hell of a lot...
[04:55] <longsword33733> so
[04:55] <shape> yeah but iwish to have an icon in my kde
[04:55] <longsword33733> i can run virtually any win32 app on wine, right?>
[04:55] <Hawkwind> shape: Won't happen if you're installing from that type of file
[04:55] <intelikey> Hawkwind is starting another shell considered safer than just running the .bin ?
[04:55] <shape> ahok
[04:56] <intelikey> sh file.bin    as opposed to  ./file.bin ?
 i can run virtually any win32 app on wine, right? <---- there are apps (some games) that wont run in wine.
[04:58] <intelikey> longsword33733 windows explorer was one that wouldn't run  i don't know if that has changed or not.
[04:58] <ehird> there are many apps that won't work but if you keep at it suprisingly many will work
[04:58] <intelikey> there is a list on the website
[04:58] <longsword33733> what games will run? i like to play counter-strike, and starcraft
[04:58] <Guardian> hello
[04:59] <ehird> just be prepared to have to fiddle with hacks
[04:59] <Guardian> just used adept to install eclipse-sdk
[04:59] <ehird> longsword33733: why don't you go check yourself instead of making us do work you could do?
[04:59] <Guardian> it does not launch
[04:59] <Guardian> any idea ?
So if the nv driver can handle high res than why can't I increase my res?
[04:59] <longsword33733> judst askin, jeez
[04:59] <ehird> yes, well, we're not your parents
[04:59] <ehird> wine has a site.
[04:59] <intelikey> longsword33733  there is a list on the website
[05:00] <icheyne> chill out ehird
[05:00] <Guardian> hmm
[05:01] <Guardian> seems it's kdialog that changed
[05:01] <Guardian> does not support --warning
[05:01] <BluesKaj> How do I restore KDE windows defaults ?
[05:01] <intelikey> longsword33733 nothing wrong with asking,   and you usually get answers.  just not always correct or useful answers... :)
[05:01] <longsword33733> Intelikey: thx man
[05:02] <intelikey> Guardian did they drop on dash there ?
[05:02] <intelikey> -warning
[05:02] <instructor> longsword33733: read up on the wine HQ site
[05:02] <Guardian> intelikey: sorry ?
[05:02] <instructor>  !games
[05:02] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:02] <BluesKaj> I screwed up my windows settings in kde ...is there a default backup state ?
[05:02] <instructor> windows 98 or Windows Xp?
[05:03] <ScarFreewill> !java
[05:03] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:03] <Guardian> intelikey: yeah i'm using kubuntu edgy, and it's dash
[05:03] <BluesKaj> instructor, read again :)
[05:03] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: kcontrol and there is a 'Default' button on almost every screen
[05:03] <BluesKaj> ok Hawkwind, thx
[05:03] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Or log out of KDE, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old and restart KDE
[05:03] <intelikey> Guardian switches that used to be --blah for some X apps are now -blah   single dash  as opposed to dubble   it's not exactly posix and i dislike it.  but that doesn't change it.
[05:04] <ehird> intelikey: wow, interesting. any reason?
[05:04] <intelikey> ehird i have no clue.  they probably thought they had a reason.
[05:04] <ehird> i've always used --for-long-type-arguments and -L for the short ones
[05:05] <instructor> intelikey: that's dash?
[05:05] <lopio> hello, someone who help me with install kubuntu :? i have problem with graphic when i want install, i dont want use coomand line, my graphic x700pro
[05:05] <LjL> they probably think standardization and consistency is stupid
[05:05] <intelikey> ehird  try  Xorg --version     and try Xorg -version     for an example.
[05:06] <intelikey> instructor see that example also   ^
[05:06] <ehird> intelikey: oh wow.
[05:06] <Guardian> intelikey: i guess it's just the /usr/bin/eclipse script that is bullshit
[05:06] <ehird> that's stupid
[05:07] <instructor> !language
[05:07] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:07] <intelikey> ehird i concur
[05:07] <Guardian> intelikey: here it tries to use --warning on kdialog which simply a non existing option
[05:07] <ehird> i am disappointed in x.org
[05:07] <ehird> X sucks anyway though so meh :P
[05:07] <intelikey> Guardian perzactly.   that why i mentioned it.
[05:08] <kjelderg_> aren't we all disappointed with X?
[05:08] <instructor> Lets go to y!
[05:08] <intelikey> kjelderg_ !i   just disapointed in the developers that think changing to non-posix compliance is acceptable
[05:09] <kjelderg_> intelikey: oh?
[05:09] <Guardian> intelikey: i don't know if the installation would have worked with ubuntu, but since i started using kubuntu 5.10, nothing really works first shot :/
[05:10] <instructor> intelikey: No flash for you?
[05:11] <intelikey> like many of the base utils  now use dashless switches   tar cf file.tar paths/    should be tar -cf *
[05:11] <intelikey> instructor no i don't do flash.
[05:11] <trappist> intelikey: the tar cf syntax is for compatibility with non-gnu tar, like you'll find on a solaris box
[05:11] <kjelderg_> flash is pretty useless
[05:12] <Morrissey> I want to play an online game in ubuntu :) 3d maybe? Can anyone suggest? ;)
[05:12] <instructor> Is there a skribus?
[05:12] <instructor> !games
[05:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:12] <instructor> Morrissey: World of Warcraft :)
[05:12] <Morrissey> instructor, hehe :) Using cedega? or?
[05:13] <instructor> Wine can handle it
[05:13] <intelikey> trappist yes of course linux should conform to windows and solaris    but not the other way around....    pfft.   i'll drop it at that.  </rant>
[05:13] <Morrissey> oh, cool
[05:13] <Morrissey> Maybe I want to download a demo, just to test my 3d drivers ... is there a support list?
[05:13] <Morrissey> that can be used with wine?
[05:14] <trappist> intelikey: gnu tar accepts both.  I deliberately developed the habit of omitting the hyphen so I won't be like wtf if I find myself on ye olde unix one day... which I figure is the reason behind gnu tar accepting both syntaxes... posix conformance and cross-*nix compatibility
[05:14] <instructor> Morrissey: You just want to test the 3D drivers?
[05:14] <kjelderg_> Morrissey: try unreal tournament?
[05:14] <instructor> glxgears or ppracer should be good enough
[05:14] <Morrissey> kjelderg_, the demo?
[05:14] <instructor> Or that
[05:14] <Morrissey> both of em work :) Theres nothing wrong with my 3d drivers, just want to play a game .. been ages since!
[05:15] <kjelderg_> the whole thing, Morrissey
[05:15] <kjelderg_> UT is fun times
[05:15] <intelikey> trappist k.
[05:15] <Morrissey> actually im a bit boored with 3d shoot-em-up :) Sorry ..
[05:15] <kjelderg_> or enemy territory if you want free
[05:15] <kjelderg_> bah
[05:15] <Morrissey> enemy territory?
[05:15] <kjelderg_> alpha centauri? (sp?)
[05:15] <Morrissey> oh
[05:15] <kjelderg_> enemy territory is shooter as well
[05:15] <kjelderg_> based on one of the quakes
[05:16] <Morrissey> I just got the MX revolution mice, so I should try that out as well :)
[05:16] <Morrissey> kjelderg_, does enemy territory look good?
[05:16] <kjelderg_> I don't think so
[05:16] <Morrissey> hehe
[05:16] <Morrissey> ok
[05:16] <kjelderg_> ooh...there was a game I saw recently that did, though
[05:16] <kjelderg_> let me see if I kept a link to it
[05:18] <instructor> Morrissey: Browse happypenguin
[05:18] <Morrissey> ok, Ill try :;)
[05:19] <intelikey> !tome
[05:19] <ubotu> tome: A single-player, text-based, dungeon simulation game.. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.3.3-1 (edgy), package size 2307 kB, installed size 9460 kB
[05:19] <_ita> i did a regexp im happy with .. but what i did is "matching all i want/need" .. if id do a replace now id LOSE all the data i want ... can i somehow negate my regexp ? to use this regexp replacing "all not mentioned" in regexp ?!
[05:19] <intelikey> stupid bot.
[05:19] <Morrissey> intelikey?
[05:20] <icheyne> tremulous rocks :)
[05:20] <intelikey> linux game tome not the game tome for linux   there is a world of differance.
[05:20] <kjelderg_> Morrissey: ooh, and there was an AoE-like game that was in development, I think
[05:20] <kjelderg_> (AoE-like == real-time strategy)
[05:20] <Morrissey> oh, cool .. specifically for *nix?
[05:20] <itknight> hey
[05:20] <kjelderg_> I think so, though most nix devs make multiplatform out of habit
[05:21] <intelikey> http://gametome.linuxquake.com
[05:21] <itknight> I am trying to install openkiosk
[05:22] <instructor> !happypenguin
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about happypenguin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <itknight> I need to understand
[05:22] <itknight> which packages U need for kde libraries and development
[05:22] <itknight> I
[05:22] <itknight> in adept
[05:22] <Morrissey> www.happypenguin.com
[05:22] <Morrissey> really :)
[05:22] <kjelderg_> http://www.truecombatelite.net/gallery/
[05:23] <itknight> Hello can some one help me with this
[05:23] <kjelderg_> that's the prettier shooter I was thinking of
[05:23] <kjelderg_> and now to remember the strategy game
[05:23] <intelikey> this might explain what i meant. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Linux%20Game%20Tome
[05:23] <Morrissey> .org evn! Dman
[05:23] <Morrissey> kjelderg_, ah
[05:23] <itknight> I need to know which packages are the kde development and libraries
[05:24] <itknight> hello can anyone help me
[05:25] <instructor> !help
[05:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:25] <instructor> !anyone
[05:25] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:25] <Morrissey> that looks sweet kjelderg_ :)
[05:26] <itknight> I am installing
[05:26] <itknight> openkiosk and I need kde libraries and development packages
[05:28] <icheyne> !tremulous | kjelderg_
[05:28] <kjelderg_> Morrissey:  http://boson.eu.org or http://www.glest.org
[05:28] <ubotu> tremulous: Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.0-2 (edgy), package size 1153 kB, installed size 2740 kB
[05:28] <kjelderg_> those are strategies
[05:28] <icheyne> !tremulous
[05:28] <kjelderg_> icheyne: thanks :)
[05:28] <Morrissey> tremulous?
[05:29] <intelikey> FPS = first person shooter   no?
[05:29] <icheyne> Morrissey, it's excellent
[05:29] <icheyne> that's right
[05:29] <icheyne> RTS= Realtime strategy (Starcraft etc)
[05:30] <instructor> Wesnoth!!
[05:30] <instructor> !wesnoth
[05:30] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[05:31] <kjelderg_> wesnoth is so 2d
[05:31] <intelikey> icheyne very closely related the two.
[05:31] <icheyne> computer games are too solitary - unless you are at a LAN party
[05:31] <icheyne> intelikey, sure - but I find boardgames richer and more sociable
[05:32] <instructor> kjelderg_: needing only 3d is so 1d
[05:32] <kjelderg_> I've been playing a whole lot of the civ recently...
[05:32] <intelikey> wesnoth has the makings of a really good game  but the game campains that are perpaired for it are not even 2d.  they are 1d  linear    imo
[05:32] <kjelderg_> my flatmates and I have been up until 3AM pretty consistently with the civ
[05:33] <intelikey> freeciv ?
[05:33] <kjelderg_> no
[05:33] <kjelderg_> the commercial civ, I fear
[05:34] <intelikey> mmm never seen it myself
[05:34] <kjelderg_> the 4th release, good-looking game, fun play
[05:34] <kjelderg_> but now that I've heard boson is playable and usable, I may try it
[05:34] <intelikey> k i'll take your word for it.
[05:36] <intelikey> i just fired 4 times with a 12Ga #6 shot at a bird and still he flys.... i must have lost it............
[05:37] <Morrissey> haha! That tremulous broke my X session :)
[05:37] <Morrissey>  Any other ideas of fun & free 3d games for nix?
[05:38] <intelikey> did you check the tome ?
[05:38] <intelikey> the gametome that is.
[05:39] <Morrissey> intelikey, I think you gave me a bad link
[05:39] <intelikey> possable.  google can streighten that out tho.
[05:40] <Morrissey> jepp, thats my first hit as well
[05:41] <instructor> Boson?
[05:41] <instructor> !games | Morrissey
[05:41] <ubotu> Morrissey: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[05:41] <intelikey> http://lwn.net/1998/1112/gametome.html
[05:43] <intelikey> or then again .....
[05:44] <Morrissey> have you tried americas army?
[05:44] <Morrissey> hehe
[05:44] <Morrissey> intelikey, thanks anyways )
[05:44] <intelikey> Morrissey http://www.linuxgames.com
[05:45] <Morrissey> thanks!
[05:45] <intelikey> you've been there ?
[05:46] <Morrissey> where? In the army?
[05:46] <intelikey> that site ^
[05:46] <intelikey> nm
[05:49] <kdefrysk> planeshift is a great game also running on linux
[05:49] <kdefrysk> http://www.planeshift.it/
[05:50] <kdefrysk> second life also runs on linux now actually (beta)
[05:50] <instructor> We need an ubuntu games team
[05:50] <instructor> Would so turn people around
[05:51] <kdefrysk> http://laanx.fragnetics.com/bt/PlaneShift_CBV0.3.016.bin.torrent
[05:51] <kdefrysk> hmz , does not work
[05:53] <shape> hy guys
[05:53] <Kim^J> Hey
[05:54] <shape> i've just put a new user
[05:54] <instructor> Is there a community group for Kubuntu wallpapers?
[05:54] <shape> but when i open a new session with the new user it requires me to change root psw
[05:54] <intelikey> !kdelook
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelook - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:54] <shape> how can i add a simple user?
[05:54] <kdefrysk> there is a kubuntu artwork section
[05:55] <intelikey> shape adduser ?
[05:55] <shape> yes
[05:55] <intelikey> useradd
[05:55] <shape> i tryed
[05:55] <intelikey> !sudo
[05:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:55] <intelikey> useradd --help
[05:55] <shape> but when i try to log in with the nes user it requires me to change root pswd
[05:56] <shape> i want to add a simple user not a super user
[05:56] <intelikey> not root passwd.  userpasswd
[05:56] <kdefrysk> try kuser
[05:56] <kdefrysk> and see if its fixable
[05:56] <intelikey> sudo passwd 'username'
[05:56] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:57] <Kim^J> slow-motion: Hey there.
[05:57] <intelikey> shape you can't add a "super user"  that is root.   you can add a user   and if you wish you can make them root jr.  but you can't add another "root".   errr if you do it breaks things.
[05:58] <slow-motion> hi Kim^J
[05:58] <Kim^J> slow-motion: So what's up with you?
[05:58] <slow-motion> nothing. I'm just at home
[05:58] <kjelderg_> are there any baldur's gate-style games for *nix?
[05:59] <intelikey> mabe add the -m to the useradd to creat the home dir.
[05:59] <Kim^J> Why not use adduser and all you have to type is the name and pass?
[05:59] <intelikey> hehhe s/topes/types/
[06:00] <kdefrysk> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/faq.xml#useradd
[06:00] <intelikey> Kim^J passwords added that way are saved in your .bash_history file   :)
[06:00] <kdefrysk> gentoo has great docs
[06:01] <intelikey> Kim^J and adduser was my "first" sujestion.
[06:01] <Kim^J> intelikey: Oh...
[06:01] <Kim^J> Hmm.. Well.. There's no  one that can look in my .bash_history :D
[06:01] <Kim^J> All the other users are chrooted... :D
[06:02] <sizzam> im trying to add a second panel to the top of the screen.  i added the panel and moved it to the top, but i cant figure out how to control the size of that panel
[06:03] <Kim^J> sizzam: Big BUG. Restart KDE and login again and it should be working.
[06:03] <hollywoodb> hmmm... I can add panels & resize them no prob
[06:03] <sizzam> thanks Kim^J
[06:03] <Kim^J> Also... Why haven't that bug been fixed? Been in since Breezy.
[06:03] <SortOfThing> what is the value of bogofilter method VS bayesian method?
[06:03] <hollywoodb> SortOfThing: doesn't bogofilter do bayesian filtering?
[06:04] <SortOfThing> dunno
[06:04] <hollywoodb> SortOfThing: it does ;)
[06:04] <intelikey> Kim^J and you added a chrooted user with the adduser command ?    or a chroot adduser    (which makes more sense.)
[06:04] <SortOfThing> Ok. Thanks =^___^=
[06:05] <Kim^J> intelikey: The other users on that PC is chrooted in their homes.
[06:05] <intelikey> k
[06:05] <Kim^J> They can't escape their homes so they can't watch my .bash_history
[06:06] <Kim^J> Does root have a .bash_history ???
[06:06] <Kim^J> Anyone from San Francisco ?
[06:06] <intelikey> escaping a chroot is possable.... just very difficult.  and requires finding an exploit.
[06:06] <spiritz> Kim^J: Yes it does but it won't save what do trigger as 'sudo'
[06:08] <Kim^J> intelikey: I believe that my users aren't really skilled enough to escape their chrooted homes.
[06:08] <intelikey> root's .bash_history would only be writen in a sudo -i  environment or root login
[06:08] <intelikey> Kim^J probably so.
[06:08] <intelikey> note that sudo -i   and su -  are relatively equal
[06:09] <Kim^J> Hmm... If I start a program in screen and then close the ssh connection. Will the program still be on?
[06:09] <Zic> bon :>
[06:10] <spiritz> Kim^J: nope
[06:10] <Kim^J> Not doing CTRL+A+D
[06:10] <intelikey> Kim^J if you detach the screen first.
[06:10] <Kim^J> intelikey: Ok... mm..
[06:10] <Kim^J> Hmm...
[06:10] <spiritz> Kim^J: There was a google summer of code projet that should lead to what you are asking for... maybe in next or n+1 Xorg release
[06:10] <spiritz> Kim^J: sorry, I'm talking about GUI app, not terminal app
[06:11] <Kim^J> spiritz: Ok... I was thinking of Irssi.
[06:11] <Guardian> re
[06:11] <Guardian> hmm i tried to launch synergy server as part of /etc/rc.local but nothing happens, any hint please ?
[06:12] <intelikey> Kim^J you can ssh into a box run screen then open anything and detach the screen and exit ssh   ssh back in and reattach the running screen    man screen
[06:13] <Kim^J> intelikey: That I know. I wonder if I skip detaching will the program still be running then?
[06:13] <intelikey> that's also one reason i don't like screen.    more fun for hackers/script kiddies.
[06:13] <Xal2> Hi
[06:13] <guglielf> guys any idea on a good website downloader?
[06:13] <intelikey> Kim^J no.
[06:13] <Xal2> I'm having problems with partitioning my drive in setup.
[06:13] <Xal2> Setup only sees one drive with no partitions, but my drive has the proper partitions setup for Linux.
[06:13] <rag> please somebody know about unattended install with kickstart and alternate cd?
[06:13] <rag> hello *
[06:14] <Kim^J> guglielf: You wanna download a site?
[06:14] <guglielf> yep
[06:14] <Xal2> I get critical error during ped_disk_new
[06:14] <intelikey> guglielf wget
[06:14] <intelikey> or aget
[06:14] <Kim^J> guglielf: That you can't do.
[06:14] <guglielf> mmm ok
[06:14] <Kim^J> You can only download the code that the server parsed to you.
[06:14] <rag> i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd
[06:15] <intelikey> Kim^J you can't ?
[06:15] <guglielf> i was thinking about something similar to teleport under win
[06:15] <Xal2> Any idea why Linux isn't seeing my partitions in setup when it saw them just fine in my previous Kubuntu installation?
[06:15] <intelikey> oh nm i follow.
[06:15] <instructor> !kget
[06:15] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[06:15] <guglielf> right
[06:15] <Kim^J> intelikey: No. Using wget to download a site would only give you the code parsed by the server.
[06:15] <guglielf> kget
[06:15] <rag> ubotu: do you know ? :)
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about do you know ? :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <rag> ubotu: hello ubotu ! :)
[06:15] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:16] <intelikey> Kim^J said i followed.  but basicly that is the site.   site minus the os and other controling software.
[06:16] <Kim^J> intelikey: Hmm... If the site is using PHP it's very useless. :D
[06:16] <Kim^J> A dude of mine tryed to wget a php script :D
[06:17] <instructor> bah just comile hello from source
[06:17] <Kim^J> Was kinda funny when he only got the code that was created by the server. :D
[06:17] <Zarephath> !restricted
[06:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:18] <intelikey> aget -R url would get every thing you have permission to access....   but as you pointed out not the controling apps/code
[06:19] <intelikey> apsent!       @ food !
[06:19] <intelikey> b
[06:21] <ehird> so who here MANUALLY compiles code? In that they use ed to read the code and replace it with the binary data manually using your brain to work it out
[06:22] <ehird> instructor: yay!
[06:24] <Kim^J> ehird: Isn't that kinda useless?
[06:24] <ehird> Kim^J: it makes all binarys manually optimised!
[06:24] <Kim^J> Well.. Ofcourse. :D
[06:24] <guglielf> found one website downloader: http://www.httrack.com/
[06:24] <ehird> since I know how to convert 500 languages into binary using my brain i might as well use the best text editor ever, ed, to do my stuff!
[06:24] <ehird> guglielf: that's a windows app
[06:24] <guglielf> don't know if it works with oho though
[06:24] <guglielf> php
[06:25] <ehird> hah pjp
[06:25] <ehird> *php
[06:25] <guglielf> it works in linux also
[06:25] <guglielf> free software gpled
[06:25] <trappist> guglielf: sudo apt-get install httrack
[06:25] <trappist> !httrack
[06:25] <ubotu> httrack: Copy websites to your computer (Offline browser). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.40.4-1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:27] <guglielf> trappist: tnx
[06:27] <instructor> KDE takes up 300 Megs?
[06:27] <Kim^J> instructor: Maybe.
[06:27] <Kim^J> It's a DE.
[06:27] <trappist> ehird: why bother with the code in the first place?  just crank out the binary using the supercoder2000 ( http://linuxkungfu.org/images/fun/geek/?image=37 ) and you're done
[06:28] <ehird> trappist: pff, i work at lower level than 0s and 1s, but that is how i write code! but i can't compile x that way!
[06:29] <instructor> I just aptitude removed kdelib4c2a and it freed up 354 megs
[06:29] <ehird> ... imagine installing gentoo that way
[06:29] <trappist> ehird: I'd get cramps
[06:30] <guglielf> bye guys, nice day/night to you all
[06:31] <kay> hello where can i find the kernel config file?
[06:31] <instructor> guglielf:  and to you
[06:31] <trappist> kay: for the running kernel, /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[06:32] <intelikey> what happened to  wall  ????  it no longer prints to my gui  even for root ?
[06:32] <intelikey> also only to tty1 if tty[1-4]  are owned by same user
[06:33] <kay> trappist: thx for fas answer and good help :D
[06:33] <instructor> what about write?
[06:33] <trappist> or talk
[06:34] <instructor> talk is borked in Ubuntu
[06:35] <instructor> the maintainer is still using inet.d and ubuntu has dispensed with that package
[06:37] <intelikey> trappist i sued to do that, but i lost the hey stack i stored my magnetic needles in.....
[06:38] <trappist> I just make new ones out of old floppy drives
[06:38] <intelikey> speeking of hay.  hay shortage this year.  cattle prices plumit accordingly.    possable beef shortage next spring ?
[06:39] <intelikey> or !offtopic  :)
[06:40] <brett> Hello all
[06:41] <brett> I am the IT guy at a real estate office and i am considering making the computers there dual boot to Windows and Linux
[06:41] <Kim^J> brett: Just Linux. Not Windows.
[06:41] <scott_w|lappy> brett: i agree with Kim^J
[06:41] <brett> The MLX website they use is built for IE is the problem
[06:41] <scott_w|lappy> winetools
[06:41] <brett> it will not let you use other browsers
[06:42] <scott_w|lappy> winetools lets you run IE in linux
[06:42] <brett> yeah i am trying to see if it will work with wine
[06:42] <intelikey> ie for linux ?
[06:42] <Kim^J> brett: Rewrite and do it right.
[06:42] <scott_w|lappy> intelikey: it sounds wrong i know
[06:42] <brett> well i cant go all windows the realtors will freak
[06:42] <brett> is there any browsers that mimik IE? so i dont need to use wine?
[06:42] <Kim^J> Convince them that Linux is so much better.
[06:43] <Kim^J> brett: Konqueror.
[06:43] <brett> hmm
[06:43] <brett> i am curious
[06:43] <brett> let me try
[06:43] <instructor> brett: Note that it is NOT IE so I doubt it will work
[06:43] <intelikey> but doesnt M$ make an ie for linux ?
[06:43] <brett> instructor: yeah i know...but worth a try
[06:44] <trappist> intelikey: they used to make one for "unix" but not anymore
[06:44] <instructor> http://www.msfirefox.com
[06:44] <Kim^J> intelikey: You think they would give away their precious code to the evil Linux market?
[06:44] <GnarusLeo> f.eks when I want to play Enemy Terrotiry (or other GL full screen games) it cant set my resolution correctly (So everythings blurry) because I have a widescreen res .. how to fix this?
[06:44] <intelikey> trappist oh ok.  i'm only 5 or 6 years behind the times....  that will remain unchanged as long as time stands still.
[06:46] <brett> IE just downloaded....i am trying it now
[06:46] <trappist> there's also "ies4linux" which is several versions of ie put together to run in wine
[06:47] <brett> IE would not install
[06:48] <trappist> brett: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[06:48] <brett> trappist: thanks
[06:49] <brett> trappist: lol... the site gives you a IE like browser then requests that you do not use IE to view their page :-) use firefox
[06:49] <trappist> brett: it's not an ie-like browser... it's ie... x3
[06:49] <brett> trappist: huh?
[06:50] <intelikey>    IEs4Linux is the simpler way to have Microsoft Internet Explorer running
[06:50] <intelikey>    on Linux (or any OS running Wine).
[06:50] <intelikey> brett thats from that url ^
[06:50] <larss0n> can someone please help me install the latest version of Java ?
[06:51] <intelikey> !sun-java
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-java - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <intelikey> !sun-jre
[06:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sun-jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:51] <rag> i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd
[06:51] <trappist> larss0n: enable multiverse repository.  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre (iirc)
[06:52] <brett> is ubontu feeling better?
[06:52] <intelikey>   yeah i short changed the name *5-jre
[06:52] <intelikey> brett yes
[06:52] <intelikey> netsplit is solved for now..
[06:52] <brett> huh?
[06:53] <rag> intelikey: hello how are you! is for me?
[06:53] <steve__> ca parle francais jespere icit :)0
[06:53] <intelikey> brett that's what was wrong with ubotu the other day (yestergo)  it was net split.
[06:53] <rag> intelikey: i'm in laptop alternate cd which not detect any network card on installation start of alternate cd
[06:53] <brett> oh
[06:54] <trappist> !fr | steve__
[06:54] <ubotu> steve__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:54] <intelikey> rag what network card do you have ?
[06:54] <intelikey> !wifi
[06:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:54] <brett> someone just said he was sick... i was curious how a bot could get sick ;-)
[06:54] <steve__> TKS ubotu ! :)
[06:54] <brett> how do you register your name on these channels?
[06:55] <intelikey> brett hehhe part of himself was missing ....  :)
[06:55] <trappist> brett: /msg nickserv help
[06:55] <sebastian_> hi
[06:55] <intelikey> brett you register with nickserv   /msg nickserv help register
[06:55] <brett> thanks
[06:55] <hosky> hi, i have a rare problem ._. when i plug the ac adapter the cpu usage switch between 0%->100%->0%->100%....
[06:55] <sebastian_> args
[06:55] <hosky> i make a top but don't see any process
[06:55] <hosky> http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sreencl5.png
[06:56] <sebastian_> hosky: what about ps -ef?
[06:56] <hosky> 1 seg
[06:56] <hosky> UID        PID  PPID  C STIME TTY          TIME CMD
[06:56] <sebastian_> probably the power management
[06:56] <sebastian_> ?
[06:56] <hosky> don't see the cpu usage
[06:58] <klerfayt> http://pastebin.com/826763 I have problems with dvd shotcut created on the desktop as cd0
[06:58] <hosky> now, i stoped apmd (adavcen power....) and acpid
[06:58] <shadowhywind> hay all, i was wondering if there was a way from a konsole to open a new konsole and run a command? if that makes sense
[06:59] <ehird> eh
[06:59] <ehird> why doesn't xterm find any of the fonts i set
[06:59] <klerfayt> shadowhywind: konsole
[06:59] <scott_w|lappy> shadowhywind: konsole "command"
[06:59] <brett> cool thanks guys im outa here
[06:59] <shadowhywind> i tried that and that didn't work
[06:59] <ehird> shadowhywind: "echo "command" | konsole"
[07:00] <intelikey> shadowhywind konsole command
[07:00] <trappist> shadowhywind: konsole -e command
[07:00] <klerfayt> shadowhywind: use tabs instead
[07:00] <shadowhywind> i know tabs would work, but thats not what i am trying for hehe
[07:01] <intelikey> rxvt command
[07:01] <ehird> any ideas about my xterm prob?
[07:01] <intelikey> xterm command
[07:01] <ehird> err
[07:01] <cryptonic> iv made kde the default guoi on ubuntu how do i revert back to gnome?
[07:01] <ehird> that isn't my problem :)
[07:02] <klerfayt> ehird: that is because in edgy xorg,conf fontpaths are broken
[07:02] <ehird> why doesn't xterm find any of the fonts i set <-- quote me
[07:02] <ehird> i'm doing -fn "Bitstream Vera Mono"
[07:02] <ehird> i tried -fn "serif" too as a test
[07:02] <intelikey> ehird that wasn't to you.    but to your question possably xterm is looking in the wrong path for the fonts ?
[07:02] <MenZa> cryptonic: open gdm, choose 'Session' and select GNOME
[07:03] <ehird> intelikey: <noob>where would i change this?</noob>
[07:03] <intelikey> ehird not sure.
[07:03] <klerfayt> ehird: kdesu kwrite /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <ehird> klerfayt: your gui text editors speak a language i do not understand! /me does sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead
[07:04] <ehird> okay, found the paths. where are the fonts really stored?
[07:05] <intelikey> ehird best luck i've had with setting xterm is alt right click on an xterm   or better still write a `/.Xresources file and define all the terminal stuff in there.
[07:05] <cryptonic> i want to make gnome totally the default as in im going throufgh the kde logon screen now and i dont want to use the kde version any more
[07:05] <Alter-Ego> is mp3 support and libdvdcss bieng burried or am i not getting the right repository ?
[07:06] <cryptonic> MenZa : i want to make gnome totally the default as in im going throufgh the kde logon screen now and i dont want to use the kde version any more
[07:06] <ehird> i wish there was a tabbed xterm :P
[07:06] <klerfayt> ehird: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xfonts-core/+bug/71173
[07:06] <MenZa> cryptonic: in Gnome, that's Settings -> Login Screen (choose GDM in one of those menus rather than kdm)
[07:07] <intelikey> ehird mxterm
[07:07] <intelikey> !mxterm
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mxterm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:07] <longsword33733> wow
[07:07] <longsword33733> wine doesnt take any time at all to install...
[07:07] <ehird> E: Couldn't find package mxterm
[07:07] <longsword33733> thx guys
[07:08] <longsword33733> u were a lot of help
[07:08] <trappist> Alter-Ego: sudo sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[07:08] <trappist> !mp3 | Alter-Ego
[07:08] <ubotu> Alter-Ego: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:08] <trappist> that too
[07:08] <intelikey> ehird sorry had the wrong app.   mrxvt_0.4.2-1_i386.deb
[07:08] <trappist> especially check out RestrictedFormats
[07:09] <intelikey> was thinking xterm  but it's rxvt
[07:09] <intelikey> !mrxvt
[07:09] <ubotu> mrxvt: lightweight multi-tabbed X terminal emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB
[07:09] <ehird> yes, but that's not xterm is it?
[07:09] <ehird> it's totally different
[07:09] <intelikey> said that already  ^
[07:11] <intelikey> actually most of the differances are cosmetic.   but that's argumenitive
[07:11] <ehird> well, the only difference in 99% of terminals are cosmetics, mm
[07:12] <Digital_Pioneer> How can I crosscompile for windows?
[07:14] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:15] <rag> intelikey: my interest is on unattended install, via kickstart with alternate cd it can't download with wget ks file but it not download by network
[07:15] <rag> intelikey: realtek 8136
[07:17] <bot12gb> #kubuntu.es
[07:17] <larss0n> ;l
[07:17] <larss0n> 'l
[07:17] <larss0n> k
[07:17] <larss0n> l
[07:17] <larss0n> pk
[07:18] <larss0n> Sorry for that :S wright in the wrong window
[07:18] <bot12gb> kubuntu spanish please?
[07:18] <fdoving> !es
[07:18] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:18] <rag> bot12gb: kubuntu-es :)
[07:19] <rag> intelikey: do you know if is possible load a module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?
[07:19] <rag> intelikey: or need i a etherboot disk?
[07:20] <rag> intelikey: the problem is a laptop, and dont have floppy :(
[07:25] <Rooster_> Hello?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:26] <larss0n> how can i kill an secret procces by the console ?
[07:27] <intelikey> rag modprobe module-name
[07:27] <trappist> larss0n: you seriously need to fix that
[07:27] <larss0n> sorry :(
[07:27] <intelikey> larss0n sudo killall name    sudo kill pid    ?
[07:27] <rag> intelikey: i know it but not work con alternate cd
[07:27] <larss0n> i dont have anny rubber nearby
[07:28] <trappist> larss0n: what is a "secret process"
[07:28] <intelikey> rag sorry i don't have the alternate cd   so i can only speculate there.
[07:29] <rag> intelikey: which module for 8136? uhmm r8136?
[07:29] <larss0n> you know, kind of like when your mom is under your bed looking at you when u surfing on porn
[07:29] <intelikey> trappist i assumed it was one he wasn't willing to reveal
[07:29] <ehird> larss0n: i see.
[07:30] <ehird> others: is there an easy way to restart my x session without losing the state of my apps?
[07:30] <trappist> ehird: not yet
[07:30] <trappist> actually probably never
[07:30] <ehird> darn
[07:30] <ehird> my xterm depends on it! :<
[07:30] <trappist> ehird: that's what nohup and screen are for!
[07:31] <trappist> (especially screen)
[07:31] <ehird> no, more like i fixed xorg.conf so i can use fonts in xterm :)
[07:31] <scott_w|lappy> ehird: you could try writing the current X state to disk then reloading it when X starts... but that would require you to rewrite X
[07:31] <scott_w|lappy> :P
[07:31] <ehird> :P
[07:31] <scott_w|lappy> though KDE saves the state of programs to a certain extent
[07:32] <ehird> yeah cept i disabled that since it was horrible on startup
[07:32] <scott_w|lappy> haha, yeah it is
[07:32] <ehird> ``Do you think I restarted for FUN or something?!"
[07:32] <ideasrex> i have a problem with my kubuntu edgy doesn't see other partitions of my new hard disk, does anyone know solution to this, please?
[07:32] <Ace2016> ehird: restarting is only half the fun
[07:32] <Alter-Ego> i am getting real choppy playback and scrolling in kubuntu
[07:33] <Ace2016> Alter-Ego: what app?
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> firefox, kaffiene, etc.
[07:33] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: what do you mean it cant see them
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> scrolling is real choppy
[07:33] <Ace2016> Alter-Ego: playback of video or audio?
[07:33] <ehird> xterm: "./firstlinuxvirus-NOTETHISISNOTAVIRUS" user: "crap. *restarts*" kde: "*restarts virus for you*"
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> i have had kubuntu edgy on this machine before, and not had this problem
[07:33] <Alter-Ego> video
[07:33] <Ace2016> Alter-Ego: try mplayer and try opera they tend to be faster
[07:34] <intelikey> ehird what virus ?
[07:34] <ideasrex> BonBonThejon: earlier it wasn't problem with my old hard disk but now it doesn't list anything in my /media
[07:34] <ehird> intelikey: ...
[07:35] <ideasrex> it is WD 250 g, earlier it was maxtor if it is of relevance
[07:35] <larss0n> i am runnigs kubuntu on a pentium 1 computer
[07:35] <larss0n> cool ha
[07:35] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: /media should have directories for cd-roms and ipods and such
[07:35] <BonBonTheJon> larss0n: you using KDE on that?
[07:36] <scott_w|lappy> there's no need for /media imo
[07:36] <ideasrex> strange earlier it listed my partitions :S
[07:36] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: did you reinstall linux?
[07:36] <ideasrex> but where is my hard disk then, how can I access my data?
[07:37] <ideasrex> yes i reinstalled linux and windows
[07:37] <intelikey> larson9999 ah anothere p1 user.
[07:37] <intelikey> !ntfs
[07:37] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:37] <intelikey> !fuse
[07:37] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:37] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: run "sudo fdisk /dev/hda"
[07:38] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon -l ^  ?>
[07:38] <ideasrex> thanks a lot i will try now
[07:38] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: hey, that works much better
[07:39] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: you need to run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" to show your partitions
[07:39] <ideasrex> i just ran fdisk /dev/hda
[07:39] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: it probably didn't run if you didnt do sudo
[07:39] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon also the device is not needed when sudo fdisk -l   is called.
[07:39] <ideasrex> and it said something about "cylinders for this disk is set to 30401,....
[07:40] <cryptonic> can someone help me get beryl successully working on ubuntu?
[07:40] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: ok, get out of that and just run "sudo fdisk -l"
[07:40] <intelikey> BonBonTheJon not that there is anything wrong with limiting it to one device mind you......
[07:40] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:40] <larss0n> how can i use adept again ?
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> intelikey: yeah, not specifiying probably is better since it might not be hda
[07:41] <intelikey> :)
[07:41] <ideasrex> BonBonTheJon: thanks now it shows all of my partitions it seems
[07:41] <cryptonic> the status bar with the close maximize and minimize doesnt seem to work properly, as in everything else works but that
[07:41] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: what filesystems are you using
[07:41] <Ace2016> hi all
[07:41] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:41] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:42] <larss0n> Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[07:42] <Ace2016> anyone here know a good podcasting app?
[07:42] <trappist> larss0n: dude for real.
[07:42] <larss0n> SPRRY
[07:42] <larss0n> SORRY
[07:42] <larss0n> *
[07:42] <ideasrex> ntfs for both windows and data paritions
[07:42] <trappist> larss0n: please identify the problem and fix it.
[07:42] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: ubuntu can read ntfs, and writing is in the works
[07:42] <intelikey> larss0n pgrep dpkg   to see if anything is using it.
[07:42] <ideasrex> i would be happy if it would be possible to adjust just to access and read from this partitions
[07:43] <cryptonic> the status bar with the close maximize and minimize doesnt seem to work properly, as in everything else works but that
[07:43] <Dr_willis> You should be able to read a ntfs partition easially enough
[07:43] <larss0n> Nothing is using ITT!
[07:43] <trappist> cryptonic: you mean the titlebars on applications?
[07:43] <BonBonTheJon> ideasrex: ok, now can you pastebin /etc/fstab
[07:43] <rag> larss0n: make sure you dont have opened other management software, like synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, automatix, etc
[07:43] <cryptonic> trappist : yes
[07:43] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin
[07:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:43] <cryptonic> in beryl that is
[07:44] <Dr_willis> my fstab entry for NTFS --> /dev/hda1 /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:44] <larss0n> The problem became a problem when i needed too close down the java install, because it was lag
[07:44] <trappist> cryptonic: oh.  yeah last time I tried (it was compiz) that stuff wasn't working so hot in kde.
[07:44] <intelikey> anyone know off hand the "command" to open a new tab in konsole ?
[07:44] <james> hello having problem with alsa any helpers available?
[07:44] <rag> intelikey: do you know if is possible load a network module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?
[07:44] <larss0n> The problem became a problem when i needed too close down the java install, because it was lag
[07:44] <rag> intelikey: sorry :)
[07:45] <rag> do you know if is possible load a network module from ctrl+alt+f2 from alternate cd?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> larss
[07:45] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-N intelikey  from what i am reading in the konsole shortcuts settings
[07:45] <larss0n> Ja ?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> larss
[07:45] <james> i am having problems with alsa kaffeine and amarok cant inialize drivers any suggestions was working now it is not?
[07:45] <TheGateKeeper> grrr
[07:45] <larss0n> yes ?
[07:45] <larss0n> What ?
[07:45] <intelikey> rag i don't have the alternate cd.       but   sudo modprobe "module-name"   should work on any booted linux.
[07:45] <ideasrex> i ran pastebin /etc/fstab and it says bash: pastebin: command not found
[07:45] <BonBonTheJon> !pastebin | ideasrex
[07:45] <ubotu> ideasrex: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <Dr_willis> ideasrex,  he ment POST it to a pastebin web site. :)
[07:46] <Neuron-DK> where does one go with suggestions for kpdf/okular?
[07:46] <intelikey> !paste
[07:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:46] <ideasrex> oh ok :)
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> larss0n, log out, then log back in, see if that clears it, otherwise you have a broken package that needs fixing
[07:46] <rag> intelikey: yes i know my problem is which is name module? for realtek 8136,
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> !broken
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about broken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <james> alsa question any takers?
[07:46] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[07:46] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:46] <TheGateKeeper> !adept fix
[07:46] <Dr_willis> L)
[07:46] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:47] <james> ok
[07:47] <larss0n> i think i have a brocken package
[07:47] <rag> intelikey: which are general name for realtek cards, module names , r* , rt*?
[07:47] <intelikey> rag modprobe -l   lists available modules  and google can search better than intelikey can.
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> what's the bot command for fixing adept?
[07:48] <trappist> intelikey: dcop `dcop | grep konsole` konsole newSession
[07:48] <Dr_willis> TheGateKeeper,  i never can rember. :) ya mean to remove that apt lock file?
[07:48] <intelikey> rag and  [shift] +[pageup]  scrolls the console  or should i say pages the console.
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> Dr_willis, well I think there is a number of things it suggests
[07:49] <james> the problem seems limited to xine related stuff not the alsa
[07:49] <rag> intelikey: yeah i know, thx
[07:49] <rag> intelikey: i need a network module generic, do you know? i try it with pcnet32 but no...
[07:50] <wilman> what is kpse tools?
[07:50] <intelikey> trappist thanks,  and can you help rag get a eth card working.  i'm network illiterate.
[07:50] <bech> bonsoir tout le monde
[07:50] <james> it just crashed kaffeine and amarok but vlc and mplayer work fine
[07:50] <rag> intelikey: thx intelikey!!! a lot
[07:51] <intelikey> np
[07:51] <trappist> rag: catch me up, I haven't been paying attention :)
[07:51] <stalinser> el canal espaol donde esta?
[07:51] <trappist> rag: have you tried rtl8150?
[07:51] <BonBonTheJon> !es | stalinser
[07:51] <ubotu> stalinser: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:51] <rag> stalinser: kubuntu-es
[07:52] <rag> trappist: no, i try
[07:52] <bech> quelqu'un peut m'aider  ? je n'arrive pas a avoir de son.
[07:52] <stalinser> gracias :D
[07:52] <BonBonTheJon> !fr | bech
[07:52] <ubotu> bech: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:52] <trappist> rag: or 8139too
[07:52] <trappist> !fr | bech
[07:52] <trappist> oh too slow
[07:52] <rag> trappist: i tell you, i need wake up my ethernet card, because i try install with alternate cd and kickstart installation file
[07:52] <BonBonTheJon> :)
[07:52] <rag> trappist: for unanttend install
[07:53] <intelikey> trappist works great.  really grateful.   been kicking that around for days.   :)
[07:53] <trappist> rag: I'm not very familiar with that environment
[07:53] <trappist> intelikey: dcop is pretty great.  only thing, I'm not sure if that'll work right if you have more than one konsole window open
[07:53] <rag> trappist: the problem is: alternate cd always detect ethernet card
[07:53] <trappist> intelikey: but if you can figure out how to get the current konsole session other than `dcop | grep konsole`
[07:54] <BonBonTheJon> !opera
[07:54] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[07:54] <intelikey> trappist i can ppid it for that.
[07:54] <rag> trappist: on this laptop it not detect eth0, eth1, wifi.. nothing!
[07:54] <trappist> rag: you're not using the alternet cd?
[07:54] <trappist> intelikey: kdcop is very helpful figuring out what to send the calls to, what calls are available etc.
[07:55] <rag> trappist: i pulse ctrl+alt+f2 and try modprobe, already i tried with pcnet32, r8169, 8139too, etc
[07:55] <rag> trappist: yeah i use alternate cd
[07:55] <trappist> rag: ok what happens when you do those things
[07:55] <trappist> rag: 'no such device' errors?
[07:55] <rag> trappist: i try modprobe and module is loaded
[07:55] <rfarias> hi
[07:56] <rfarias> my first excursion in Kubuntu XD
[07:56] <trappist> rag: then can you try like 'ifconfig eth0 <ip address> up'?
[07:56] <rag> trappist: with lsmod i see modules loaded :) but ifconfig not return me nothing
[07:56] <rag> trappist: no error no results :(
[07:57] <trappist> rag: what about 'ifconfig -a'
[07:57] <intelikey> dcop `dcop | grep konsole-$PPID` konsole newSession  <--- only opens for the existing konsole window.
[07:57] <intelikey> trappist ^
[07:57] <rag> trappist: all , appear only lo
[07:57] <trappist> intelikey: dcop konsole-$PPID konsole newSession
[07:57] <rag> trappist: all , appear only loopback
[07:58] <trappist> rag: remind me what card this is - I'll see if I can find out what driver it wants
[07:58] <BonBonTheJon> hi rfarias
[07:59] <rag> trappist: realtek 8136
[07:59] <rag> trappist: but it say "Unknown device 8136"
[07:59] <rag> trappist: it say my lspci :)
[08:00] <deema_> anybody here use Prism54 islsm?
[08:00] <rag> trappist: now, i put again ifconfig eth0 192....
[08:00] <rag> trappist: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[08:01] <beerhungry> can someone help me, i can't find a driver for printer CANON PIXMA ip3300
[08:01] <beerhungry> ?
[08:01] <trappist> rag: toshiba laptop?
[08:01] <rag> trappist: every time i tried with differente modprobe, i change to ctrl+alt+f1 and on install try detect network hardware again,
[08:01] <fowlduck> how do I change the default group of a user so that all files and directories they create belong to that user?
[08:01] <rag> trappist: but without exist
[08:01] <rag> trappist: yeaaaahh, oh irqpoll parameter kernel?
[08:01] <rag> trappist: o yeah, i forget it! :)
[08:02] <rittsel> beerhungry: sorry, in a hurry and i cant find it right now.
[08:03] <trappist> rag: hard to tell from googling, but I think support for that card was added in the 2.6.18 kernels
[08:03] <rag> trappist: is possible with irqpoll works for me :) i tryingg...
[08:03] <ehird> is there a way to make xterm always start as xterm -bg black -fg white?
[08:03] <rag> trappist: not is possible, last week i install on same laptop
[08:03] <rag> trappist: other laptop , same model
[08:05] <trappist> rag: the same cd worked on the same model, different laptop??
[08:05] <jdfellow> hello i have question about the sound server
[08:05] <rag> trappist: yeah
[08:05] <rag> trappist: alternate cd i386
[08:05] <trappist> rag: the first thing to investigate then is whether you have a hardware problem
[08:05] <rag> trappist: rag to crazy now...
[08:05] <rag> trappist: :)
[08:06] <trappist> rag: see if there's anything interesting in the output of `dmesg`
[08:06] <rag> trappist: my fingers are in X :)
[08:07] <rag> trappist: detecting network hardaware...
[08:07] <rag> trappist: :( fail
[08:07] <rag> trappist: failed
[08:07] <deema_> anybody here use Prism54 islsm?
[08:07] <trappist> rag: it really sounds like a hardware problem
[08:08] <ehird> no ideas?
[08:08] <jdfellow> if the alsa sound system fails is there a way to restart it without restarting the computer or better yet keep the sound system from dying?
[08:09] <resmo_> re
[08:09] <rag> trappist: uhmm look it... it appear me: "No Ethernet card was detected, but a FireWire interface is present. It's possible, though unlikely, that with the right FireWire hardware connected to it, this could be your primary Ethernet interface. Do you intend to use FireWire Ethernet?
[08:09] <rag> trappist: uhmm how to disable FireWire on boot kernel parameters?
[08:10] <trappist> ehird: check out /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm
[08:10] <trappist> rag: don't know
[08:10] <trappist> ehird: or ~/.Xdefaults
[08:13] <rag> trappist: ok thanks a lot
[08:14] <trappist> ehird: http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200012/answerman.html#q1
[08:17] <wilman> can someone help me with kguitar
[08:18] <ehird> why do i get Cannot get working directory from sudo in xterm? it works tho
[08:19] <ehird> hmm, ruby apps trip on it too complaining about  no "getcwd"
[08:19] <intelikey> i added this function to my .bashrc   function newtab { dcop $(dcop | grep konsole-$PPID) konsole newSession }     works like a  ibm office jet.  :)
[08:20] <intelikey> back later.
[08:28] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:31] <sandeep> phew..
[08:31] <sandeep> first step into linux  world
[08:31] <BluesKaj> splittsvelle again
[08:31] <BluesKaj> welcome to linux ! :)
[08:32] <sandeep> hehe! Thank you :)
[08:32] <sandeep> jezzz....the amount of applciations u get bundled............phew..
[08:32] <BluesKaj> it takes some work and concentration , but it's free !
[08:32] <sandeep> good stuff i must say
[08:32] <BluesKaj> cool , glad you like it
[08:32] <sandeep> now if only i can play DVD's in this thing
[08:32] <sandeep> lol
[08:33] <sandeep> i have heard kaffeine before
[08:33] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[08:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:33] <Sutoka> sandeep: i think the dvd stuff is in universe
[08:33] <sandeep> hmmm....
[08:34] <sandeep> that xine or whatever...it doesnt work good
[08:34] <sandeep> at all
[08:34] <sandeep> i think the codecs have been stripped
[08:34] <sandeep> goota instaal them manually i guess
[08:34] <Sutoka> yeah you have to add them through those guides i believe
[08:34] <sandeep> think u  r right
[08:35] <sandeep> suse to kubuntu
[08:35] <Bubba_Gump> seems a lot of people are coming to kubuntu
[08:35] <sandeep> hmmm...i used to use Suse
[08:35] <sandeep> but I like kubuntu
[08:36] <sandeep> xandros is good but....their packaging format is different
[08:36] <Sutoka> well i haven't decided for sure yet, but suse's been going really down hill since 10.0 (10.1 shipped with a broken package manager)
[08:37] <sandeep> wow...broken package manager
[08:37] <sandeep> lol
[08:37] <sandeep> thats funny...........
[08:37] <BluesKaj> yes, i used suse 10.1 (Yast sucks) fedora core5 (hardware probs) ...edgy has so far been worth the effort :)
[08:37] <Sutoka> yep, they decided to make an entirely new one and ditch the one they've used for years that worked
[08:37] <sandeep> i find fedora really buggy
[08:38] <BluesKaj> fedora is frustrating
[08:38] <Bubba_Gump> my kubuntu box just purrs..
[08:38] <Sutoka> i hated yum in fedora
[08:38] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[08:39] <Sutoka> i used apt4rpm, but never used an deb/apt based distro for more than a little bit (last time i tried kubuntu it was horribly broken)
[08:39] <sandeep> ok wht do u guys think abt Mac OS X?
[08:40] <Sutoka> im not a fan of it (loathe it actually) but a lot of people seem to like it for some reason
[08:40] <Bubba_Gump> heh
[08:40] <Bubba_Gump> all about image :)
[08:41] <Sutoka> its so much about image for them that they hid the kernel dumps with a little friendly 'please restart the computer' picture when the kernel dies
[08:41] <Bubba_Gump> hah!
[08:42] <Sutoka> i made that screen come up a couple times at an apple store... didn't know till later that they'd replaced the kernel dumps to the screen with that image
[08:43] <Bubba_Gump> sounds 'user-friendly'
[08:43] <Sutoka> yes, if you don't want your user to know that the machine just died in flames
[08:43] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:43] <Sutoka> i thought it had maybe installed updates in the background and wanted me to reboot for them
[08:44] <Bubba_Gump> heh, ooh no :)
[08:44] <BluesKaj> well , we all knowe whats wrong with MS ...Gates & Windows , but they forgot to close the backdoors :)
[08:45] <sandeep> lol
[08:46] <sandeep> Its all about the registry
[08:46] <sandeep> lol
[08:46] <Sutoka> is there a page anywhere that you can browse/search through a list of packages available in (k)ubuntu? (like you can do with the gentoo-portage.com site for gentoo)
[08:46] <klerfayt> Sutoka: yes
[08:46] <fdoving> Sutoka: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:47] <fdoving> Sutoka: you can also use apt:/ in konqueror
[08:47] <Varjat_by> Hi! I have a TV tuner KWorld PVR-833... I have installed them and can watch tv? but i have a problem with IR remote control for one..
[08:47] <klerfayt> Sutoka: it is also integrated into firefox searchbar
[08:47] <Sutoka> fdoving: im asking because i don't have kubuntu installed currently, and am curious if all the programs i normally use are just an apt-get away or not
[08:48] <Alter-Ego> amaork won't play shoutcast streams ?
[08:48] <klerfayt> fdoving: wow apt:/ is nice
[08:48] <Sutoka> fdoving: the packages.ubuntu.com looks like its exactly what i want
[08:48] <fdoving> klerfayt: it is, needs some graphical/design attention though.
[08:49] <Varjat_by> I read in any how-to, that I try to find my remote control device in output of "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" - but i have no remote control there...
[08:49] <ehird> there's an apt:/
[08:49] <ehird> ?!
[08:49] <Varjat_by> So, how i can fix it?
[08:49] <Sutoka> ehird: yes, its a kio-slave for konqueror and kde
[08:50] <ehird> Sutoka: i approve!
[08:50] <klerfayt> Sutoka: there do I get list of all kio-slaves (man:/ locate:/ apt:/)?
[08:50] <Sutoka> klerfayt: kinfocenter -> protocols
[08:50] <Sutoka> klerfayt: theres a LOT (like sftp, fish, smb, nfs, http, ftp, etc)
[08:52] <klerfayt> Sutoka: this is amazing; I have been on that page in kinfocenter before but never realized that these are kio-slaves that you type into address bar
[08:54] <ehird> why is konq suddenly laggy
[08:54] <klerfayt> ehird: what web page?
[08:54] <rag> hello again :)
[08:54] <ehird> klerfayt: any
[08:55] <ehird> i only have 3 tabs open
[08:55] <joe3k> hall
[08:55] <klerfayt> ehird: apt-get install firefox
[08:55] <rag> on edgy katapult not works , do you know ?
[08:55] <ehird> klerfayt: why the hell would i use a buggy, slow, gtk-based, non-intergrated browser?
[08:55] <klerfayt> ehird: it is faster than konq (at least on my machine)
[08:56] <d_> holas
[08:56] <klerfayt> rag: it works
[08:56] <ehird> klerfayt: you're using gnome aren't you?
[08:56] <Sutoka> ehird: if its a javascript heavy page, that may be the problem (kjs is slow, khtml is very fast)
[08:56] <ehird> Sutoka: no, it's ANY site
[08:56] <rag> klerfayt: no for me, well form a user, my user
[08:56] <klerfayt> ehird: no; I'm kde fan
[08:56] <ehird> it's more changing tabs that happens
[08:56] <ehird> or making a new one
[08:57] <klerfayt> rag: oops you are right it is broken :/
[08:57] <ehird> it frrzes up for about a sec, suddenly
[08:57] <Sutoka> ehird: is your system under load? maybe updatedb is running?
[08:57] <ehird> katapult works fine here
[08:57] <rag> klerfayt: uhm
[08:57] <rag> klerfayt: :)
[08:57] <rag> ehird: where?
[08:57] <rag> ehird: dapper i know
[08:57] <ehird> Sutoka: nope i've closed almost anything but a tes twebrick, konq and konversation+kopete
[08:57] <ehird> rag: edgy
[08:57] <Sutoka> ehird: is your system maybe swapping somehow? (i prefer to check in kinfocenter -> memory)
[08:58] <rag> ehird: how to?
[08:58] <rag> klerfayt: do you know fix it? i tried reinstall but no
[08:59] <ehird> Sutoka: it's swapping but only 45% of physical memory is used, weird
[08:59] <klerfayt> katapult is broken here
[08:59] <paul_> I fresh install of Kubuntu edgy Konqueror cant browse net nor go higher than home in browse directory ,also using google search bar just opens up another instance of Konqueror :/
[08:59] <Sutoka> ehird: i'd bet its cause of the swapping, though it really shouldn't be swapping that much when so much is free
[08:59] <rag> klerfayt: dpkg-reconfigure katapult, is ok this command?
[08:59] <ehird> even more suspicious
[08:59] <ehird> 45% used yet only 6% free?
[08:59] <steveire> Hey. My camera appears to be unsupported. dmesg should show some messages when I plug it in to the usb port, right?
[09:00] <rag> steveire: run lsusb
[09:00] <rag> steveire: and say me you see
[09:00] <steveire> rag: It only shows my mouse. What do you mean say me you see?
[09:00] <ideasrex> could someone review my /etc/fstab error at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32364/
[09:00] <Sutoka> ehird: 'application data' in physical memory is the only part thats actually 'using' the ram, disk cache and disk buffers only take up free space and will immediately be cleared if an app needs the space
[09:01] <rag> klerfayt: please can you run dpkg-reconfigure katapult for me, i havent edgy in front of now
[09:02] <rag> steveire: change usb other enty
[09:02] <rag> entry
[09:02] <klerfayt> rag: it is broken still
[09:02] <rag> klerfayt: what?
[09:02] <steveire> rag: I did, no difference
[09:02] <rag> steveire: test it on all , and run lsusb
[09:03] <rag> steveire: yeah , there is a difference :)
[09:03] <klerfayt> rag: alt-space doesn't do nothing and if I alt-f2 katapult doesn't show up also
[09:03] <rag> klerfayt: yeah nothing
[09:04] <steveire> rag. Same silence.
[09:04] <rag> klerfayt: like you have problem and me too, do you want try it solve this together, now i search on google
[09:04] <rag> steveire: which cam?
[09:04] <klerfayt> rag: sure; I'm searching in launchpad
[09:05] <steveire> Canon powershot A710IS It should show a dmesg output anyway, no matter who made it.
[09:05] <rag> steveire: ok i thinking on webcam
[09:05] <steveire> I'll try it on windows later. No time to spend on this right now
[09:05] <rag> steveire: in "other systems" it works
[09:06] <steveire> dunno. It might.
[09:07] <paul_> anyone know if there a known problem with konqueror on edgy ,,it refuses to browse internet and go any higher than my home direcvtory?
[09:07] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: hey
[09:07] <klerfayt> rag: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/katapult/+bug/56918
[09:07] <rag> paul_: run on konsole --> ping www.google.es for example and test your network
[09:08] <rag> klerfayt: solve it?
[09:08] <paul_> I can browse with firefox ok
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: hello
[09:08] <Admiral_Chicago> can i see those bug reports?
[09:08] <paul_> and obviously ~I am here
[09:08] <trappist> paul_: what happens when you try to browse
[09:09] <rag> paul_: i dont know but konqueror havent these bug
[09:09] <paul_> if I use the google search it just opens up anopther instance of Konqueror
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> PM is a prive message, you type /msg <nick> and you can talk to them directly. People usually request to PM before hand and you can only do it with a registered nick
[09:10] <Ace2016> hi all
[09:10] <Ace2016> i have a font problem
[09:10] <Ace2016> the font is rendered smaller in linux and windows and its messing up my open office documents
[09:10] <Varjat_by> Gays, I need to build kernel with lirc drivers support.. May be you know any how-tos? Or can give any suggestion how I cen get kernel sources?
[09:10] <Ace2016> i need some help fixing it
[09:10] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: some of them are not actually bugs... but worth a look anyway for the developers
[09:11] <ashraf__> hello
[09:11] <rag> klerfayt: can you run : rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/katapultrc?
[09:12] <trappist> Varjat_by: apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:12] <klerfayt> rag: lol I do not have it
[09:12] <rag> klerfayt: problem like katapult version , no?
[09:14] <klerfayt> rag: it is clean edgy install
[09:15] <rag> klerfayt: i dont know how to solve it, and you?
[09:16] <Varjat_by> trappist: image - is it sources!?
[09:16] <klerfayt> rag: I don't really care cause I do not use it :D
[09:18] <rag> klerfayt: me too, but my userfriend use katapult
[09:18] <jcb> hello people
[09:19] <Varjat_by> trappist: adept show me, that linux-image for i386 is alredy installed..
[09:20] <Varjat_by> But /usr/src forled is empty..
[09:22] <trappist> Varjat_by: apt-get source, not apt-get install.
[09:23] <Varjat_by> Oh.. Sorry :)
[09:25] <Grigorgeous> hola gente
[09:27] <emeteo> hi
[09:28] <Grigorgeous> m gustaba mas cuando las instalaciones se hacian en modo consola, por as decirlo. El nuevo mtode de instalar desde un live CD me parece un desperdicio de tiempo
[09:28] <emeteo> how can I select a folder != /home and /media on a collection of amarok?
[09:29] <Varjat_by> trappist: sorry ones again.. I have installed Kubuntu 6.06 from i386 from CD, but i have Athlon 1700+.. May be better download kernel for k7?
[09:29] <trappist> Varjat_by: the kernel *source* will be the same
[09:29] <Varjat_by> Or I will have problems with it compilation and installing?
[09:30] <trappist> Varjat_by: but if you're asking which kernel you should *run*, sure, go with k7
[09:30] <Varjat_by> Yes.. I know what is $(uname -a) mean...
[09:30] <trappist> Varjat_by: you're not likely to notice a difference though
[09:30] <Varjat_by> I want to rebuild kernel for k7 processor..
[09:31] <LjL> yes, the question is *why*?
[09:31] <trappist> Varjat_by: that's really not worth the effort, but you can do it
[09:34] <bLaZeD> Varjat_by, http://linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=611.0 that will walk you through building a new kernel
[09:35] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in kubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[09:35] <Varjat_by> So I start apt-get source linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 - and than I can simply build it (with lirc drivers support) and install without any problems?.. And my kurrent i386 kernel will be simple owerwrited with new k7-kernel?
[09:35] <LjL> and Varjat_by if you google "linux from scratch" you will be able to compile an entire distribution by yourself :P
[09:36] <Zaire> k is there anyway for me to disable the kwallet its very annoying
[09:36] <bLaZeD> Varjat_by, if you dont understand what your doing dont do it....you will only break your system
[09:37] <Varjat_by> Ok, thanks to all
[09:37] <trappist> Varjat_by: it's a whole lot easier to build a kernel from kernel.org sources, but there are howtos on building from ubuntu source
[09:38] <[Relic] > anyone know what the java config file?
[09:38] <trappist> [Relic] : there's no such thing
[09:39] <trappist> [Relic] : you just set environment variables, for example in your ~/.bashrc
[09:39] <[Relic] > there's got to be something that screwes up the text in blackdown version vs normal text in just installing the one from suns site
[09:40] <trappist> [Relic] : it's not a config issue
[09:40] <skreet> Hello has anyone here seen 'Soft lockup on CPU#0' followed by a lockup during boot, intermittantly?
[09:41] <[Relic] > I still need to figure out where it is stored so it stops the wrong behavior
[09:44] <joe3k> heh life is hard
[09:44] <gkjones> just instaled kbuntu and want Universe URL please
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[09:45] <gkjones> hi
[09:45] <luxus> lol kde4 looks funny
[09:45] <joe3k> gkjones: look into /etc/apt/sources.list, it's the same URL as "main", you need only to type "universe" instead of main
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> anybody experienced problems with katapult on Kubuntu 6.06.1? when I try to use it to play smthng in amarok, amarok shows a message "no proper plugin" and an *incorrect, relative* path to the file I was trying to play
[09:46] <joe3k> just had a talk on a forum with a guy saying ubuntu translates to "cannot configure debian"
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: yeah, didn't you know that? :)
[09:47] <skreet> ubuntu translates to "Why the hell should I waste my time configuring a system for the most common settings?
[09:47] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: well i kinda think there's really a bit more difference :)
[09:47] <skreet> +"
[09:47] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: yeah, the blue-ish look ;) but seriously, I have Debian on my server and Kubuntu on my desktop, both fit-in great and do the job they're ment to be doing
[09:48] <Varjat_by> bLaZeD: I have Expiriens with configuring FreeBSD kernel.. But Kubuntu is my firs Linux-base system. And i have problems with installing IR remote control :( I have to rebiuld kernel :(
[09:48] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: yeah but he's like ubuntu sucks and the devels suck as well because they only steal things from debian
[09:48] <cryptom> Hi all, I've set evolution window (with the window menu "advanced" -> "special window settings") to "remember" Desktop 3. This works with firefox and used to work with evolution under breezy/dapper.
[09:48] <Zaire> so is there a way to disable the kwallet
[09:48] <cryptom> since the upgrade to edgy, evolution appears on the workspace where it has been started (not the remembered value)
[09:48] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: who's like that?
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: ah, the guy
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> right :)
[09:49] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: exactly
[09:49] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: well, I'd *love* to see him configuring anything on Debian
[09:49] <joe3k> so i tried to explain him that ubuntu does little more than just repackage debian stuff and put ubuntu on it
[09:49] <Zaire> its all opensource so only way to really consider it stealing is to not release a distro
[09:50] <joe3k> Zaire: well you have lfs ;-)
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: precisely, that's exactly the idea.
[09:50] <jimbrowski> has anyone got any ideas why i'm having problems installing kde (kubuntu) from edgy?
[09:50] <[Relic] > I'll just unistall this one and get the one from the sun site which works correctly  :)
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: what are the problems
[09:50] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: well didn't understand that because he initially described himself as lame and then started to praise debian's simplicity
[09:51] <jimbrowski> its something to do with the ksysguardd which shows up as a broken package.
[09:51] <Zaire> debian is a pretty good OS but its out of date cause they hardly do any work on it...I mean their still stuck on 3.1
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: O_o' well, ho was thoroughly right: he's lame.
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: what *exactly* are you trying to do?
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: I dissagree
[09:52] <Zaire> you can all you want they just don't to enough upkeep and work on it
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: it's "the server distro", they're putting a *lot* of work in stability
[09:52] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: and, to be honest, it's stable as a rock
[09:53] <Zaire> I never said it wasn't I just said it was out of date
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: and if you need some cutting-edge, compile from source, or use the volatile repos
[09:53] <joe3k> well that's probably the reason why stable still has 2.4.x :)
[09:53] <jimbrowski> install kde from the terminal as described in http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[09:53] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: it's not out of date. Just yestarday it apt-get upgraded ssh to the newest version
[09:53] <bronaugh> yay... LiveCD still runnin.
[09:54] <Zaire> have they fixed the skype issue yet
[09:54] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: unless we're talking a different "out of date" - the one in which if a distro does not have php5 nowadays it's outdated
[09:55] <bronaugh> god damn lazy skype programmers.
[09:55] <Zaire> I hear that
[09:55] <bronaugh> their ALSA support seems to only look at the default card for mixer controls.
[09:55] <joe3k> :)
[09:55] <Zaire> skype is an essential for me
[09:55] <bronaugh> I've submitted a bug report with them (which is bloody difficult to do)
[09:56] <joe3k> bronaugh: well i had to make a few hacks to get that crazy stuff to work on friend's laptop
[09:56] <bronaugh> but so far, I haven't received any response.
[09:56] <Zaire> the skype ppl don't care about linux support...theyve stated that much theri concern is winblows
[09:56] <joe3k> bronaugh: i found it somewhere on gentoo forums that thing needed some crazy alsa parameters in .asoundrc i never heard of
[09:56] <bronaugh> joe3k: it doesn't really.
[09:57] <bronaugh> it just needs to be the only card.
[09:57] <joe3k> bronaugh: ?
[09:57] <jimbrowski> I would have thought it would be a problem that was heard of as its happened to 2 pcs i tried it on
[09:57] <joe3k> hm it was the only card
[09:57] <joe3k> with dmix
[09:57] <bronaugh> ohh.
[09:57] <bronaugh> yeah; I'm not even going there.
[09:57] <Zaire> they don't do support for linux really
[09:58] <bronaugh> then they should release their source code.
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> Zaire: use Wengo instead of skype :)
[09:58] <Zaire> should but not likely to happen
[09:58] <Zaire> nope skype or none
[09:58] <joe3k> bronaugh: then they could directly release the protocol specs :)
[09:58] <bronaugh> if they aren't going to support it themselves... let the community do it.
[09:58] <joe3k> and that would be the death of skype as client
[09:58] <rysiek|pl> aye
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: sorry for absence, my kb's batteries went buh-bye ;)
[09:59] <Zaire> the only issue I still run into on linux is 1 program uses the whole soundcard so nothing else can
[09:59] <bronaugh> well... uhh. maybe they shouldn't piss off the Linux users if they don't want us to rev eng their protoc.l
[09:59] <bronaugh> Zaire: dmix does work around that.
[09:59] <rysiek|pl> =] 
[10:00] <Zaire> dmix?
[10:00] <bronaugh> yeah, ALSA thiny.
[10:00] <bronaugh> there's something similar for the mic.
[10:00] <jimbrowski> no probs bruv, any ideas?
[10:00] <bronaugh> basically copies output of mic to as many programs as connect.
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: I understand you have ubuntu 6.10 and try tp install kde by installing kubuntu-desktop, right?
[10:00] <rysiek|pl> *to
[10:01] <jimbrowski> yep
[10:01] <eilker> hi, anyone could you suggest me security scanner?
[10:01] <joe3k> jimbrowski: do you have a clean 6.10 or upgraded from 6.06?
[10:02] <eilker> like nessus in linux, like acunetix in win32
[10:02] <jimbrowski> fresh 6.10
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: ok, do: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade - and paste the full output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, and give us the link
[10:02] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: erk, that's: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade :)
[10:02] <coreymon77> hi guys
[10:03] <coreymon77> my apt-get update gives me some failed to fetch notices from certain sites (including the security repo) can someone please give me a full featured, working apt sources.list for edgy?
[10:03] <joe3k> Varjat_by: what ir?
[10:04] <jimbrowski> i'll try that now
[10:04] <joe3k> coreymon77: just a minute
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> ok, maybe somebody will actually try to help me out, too ;)
[10:04] <rysiek|pl> anybody experienced problems with katapult on Kubuntu 6.06.1? when I try to use it to play smthng in amarok, amarok shows a message "no proper plugin" and an *incorrect, relative* path to the file I was trying to play
[10:05] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: i don't use katapult so i can't
[10:05] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: then you should start using it, it's a great helper ;)
[10:06] <coreymon77> what is katapult?
[10:06] <joe3k> coreymon77: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32400
[10:06] <jimbrowski> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32399/
[10:07] <joe3k> coreymon77: backports are missing but you don't need that now i think
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> coreymon77: a small app running in the bg, when you press Alt+Space shows a "window", when you type-in a name of an app or a song, it starts that app or plays that song
[10:07] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: tried a few times but didn't really like it _that_ much
[10:07] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: the idea is great but i can start the few apps i usually start with mouse anyway
[10:07] <rysiek|pl> coreymon77: or, if you type-in a mathematical expr, it will show you the result
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: well, I cannot live without it now :)
[10:08] <joe3k> rysiek|pl: ok the math expr sounds a lot better, maybe i'll give it a try again :)
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> aye
[10:08] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: erm, what was the *exact* command you used?
[10:08] <klerfayt> rysiek|pl: http://tinyurl.com/yxh9wd
[10:09] <rysiek|pl> joe3k: best part is: it's pluginable. you can write your own plugin for it. :)
[10:09] <jimbrowski> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:09] <joe3k> jimbrowski: you know what packages.freecontrib.org is?
[10:10] <joe3k> jimbrowski: if you don't i'd just remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> klerfayt: ah, right, thanks
[10:11] <coreymon77> thank you joe3k
[10:11] <jimbrowski> err,no. i'll try that.
[10:11] <joe3k> coreymon77: did it help?
[10:11] <coreymon77> yes
[10:11] <coreymon77> it works perfectly now
[10:11] <rysiek|pl> jimbrowski: first of all, please run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:12] <coreymon77> wow man!
[10:12] <coreymon77> lots of upgrades to do
[10:12] <jimbrowski> ok dun.
[10:12] <joe3k> jimbrowski: ahh
[10:13] <joe3k> jimbrowski: you get the could not open lock file error as well
[10:13] <joe3k> jimbrowski: isn't adept or synaptic running? you have to close it before running the command rysiek|pl told you
[10:17] <Xal2> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Kubuntu. The installer can't see any partitions on my hard drive, but fdisk can.
[10:17] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu al and thanks for the fish
[10:18] <jimbrowski> dun that, dunno about  not open lock file error though?
[10:20] <james> ok i have a question about ejecting a cd anybody available
[10:20] <james> ???
[10:20] <Xal2> Sometimes you have to unmount the CD first.
[10:20] <Zaire> if its how to do it from cli and it wont norm unmount the use umount -l /cdrom and then eject /cdrom
[10:21] <james> yes thanks for responding that is not what is happening i think ... it shows konqueror running as a process when i kill all of these processes then it will eject why and how can i prevent or stop this?
[10:22] <Zaire> got me there
[10:22] <james> I have no visible konqueror window open
[10:23] <james> i could kill all konqueror and then eject which seems rather extreme
[10:24] <joe3k> lsof or fuser is better to find the "bad" one
[10:25] <coreymon77> !seen whopper
[10:25] <joe3k> fuser -m /media/whatever
[10:25] <ubotu> Whopper is on IRC right now!
[10:26] <Varjat_by> I simply click on CD icon on my desctop and klick 'Eject'.. If your konqueror is in process list but you cann't to have access to it - it is not nomal..
[10:27] <Xal> gah
[10:27] <Xal> Something is wrong with my partition table or something.
[10:28] <Xal> I tried fdisk /dev/sda and then w to rewrite it, but setup still can't see my partitions.
[10:28] <Xal> fdisk -l shows all of them.
[10:28] <james> if i in a terminal type eject /dev/cdrom it reports that device is busy
[10:29] <james> until i kill konqueror
[10:30] <Ace2016> can't you get konqueror to unmount it?
[10:30] <larss0n> do anybode know some good downloading program for music ?
[10:31] <hyper_ch> got some x-server problems: no screens found and error in locking authority file ~/.Xauthority
[10:31] <james> my version of kubuntu does not have an unmount option it automatically unmounts and ejects
[10:31] <james> edgy
[10:31] <Zaire> if it reports as busy and won't eject use sudo umount -l /cdrom and it will force an unmount
[10:32] <narg> Edgy refuses to install the libqt3-mt-dev; is this a known bug or did I hose my box somehow?
[10:32] <james> ok
[10:32] <Xal> lol still talking about the cd rom problem
[10:32] <Xal> wow
[10:32] <james> its not over till its over
[10:32] <larss0n> do anybode know some good downloading program for music ?
[10:32] <Xal> true
[10:33] <joe3k> james: did you try the fuser or lsof
[10:33] <Xal> I haven't found a solution to my problem :(
[10:33] <Zaire> Ive had it not eject cd many times due to the inability to unmount and umount -l has yet to fail me
[10:33] <james> how do use fuser in a nutshell tried the manual
[10:34] <joe3k> james: first try fuser -m /media/cdrom or whatever you have
[10:34] <james> what is the command fuser what ...?
[10:34] <james> ok
[10:34] <narg> larss0n: If you mean just an automatic http downloader, wget or kget work well. If you mean p2p, you'll want to look at amule or azureus.
[10:34] <james> what does that do?
[10:35] <larss0n> something like frostwire ^^bunt my java doesent work :S
[10:35] <Zaire> if its kubuntu its /cdrom not /media/cdrom
[10:35] <joe3k> Zaire: i have /media but i didn't change my fstab for years
[10:36] <narg> !java > larss0n
[10:36] <joe3k> james: shows you processes blocking the device
[10:36] <Zaire> yea but default for dapper is /cdrom
[10:36] <james> awesome and -k kills them without listing is that correct
[10:36] <joe3k> james: something like that
[10:36] <james> sweet
[10:37] <joe3k> james: but maybe you should take a look who blocks that and why
[10:37] <joe3k> james: don't you have some previews enabled in konq?
[10:37] <james> yea it was konqueror
[10:37] <rafaguap> Hi boys!! Problem with acpi: either i put at boot the message acpi=force, and so my wireless works, either I put pnpbios=off, and so my usb memory key is working. Not both, unfortunately!
[10:37] <james> don't know
[10:38] <james> opening a dvd does not automatically stop up the system it is after i play a file that i have trouble ejecting
[10:38] <BluesKaj> anyone have a repos for oogle earth in edgy ...since updating from dapper mine is kaput
[10:38] <BluesKaj> google earth
[10:39] <joe3k> james: ok so play that file and then do lsof /media/cdrom or /cdrom
[10:39] <james> does anyone use lineakd and can you do multiple commands for one keystroke?
[10:39] <dima_> helo i'm from russia
[10:39] <joe3k> james: lsof is better but i had to figure out you can't write lsof /media/cdrom/, but /media/cdrom wout the / at the end
[10:40] <joe3k> dima_: hi pretty late already, isn't it ;-)
[10:40] <joe3k> james: it will show you the file which is still open
[10:40] <james> will check that out
[10:41] <james> by the way it is cdrom0
[10:41] <Zaire> cdrom will generally work to
[10:41] <joe3k> is usually simlinked
[10:41] <joe3k> sym
[10:41] <Zaire> although might be diff if you have 2 drive I spose
[10:41] <dima_> yes. i translate some word on russian language
[10:42] <joe3k> dima_: that's great, i do the same for sk
[10:42] <dima_> i'm very slow.but understand :)
[10:43] <dima_> what is sk
[10:43] <joe3k> dima_: slovak
[10:43] <scoates> hello
[10:43] <james> thanks till later
[10:44] <seraphangel> anyone know what command i have to use so i can watch files from my other drives as a reg user?
[10:44] <dima_> slavak i can understand yuo language little
[10:44] <seraphangel> its saying i dont have the permissions to play um
[10:44] <scoates> after about 18h of uptime, Xorg starts eating unreasonable amounts of CPU. Things like moving windows don't update until I stop moving them, and top shows Xorg pegging at 98%+ CPU when doing thinks like opening menus. How can I diagnose (and eventually) solve this problem?
[10:45] <joe3k> dima_: hehe the same with me with russian lang ;-)
[10:45] <joe3k> seraphangel: what fs is it?
[10:45] <joe3k> seraphangel: did you configure it in /etc/fstab?
[10:46] <dima_> slavyanskie kak ni kak
[10:46] <seraphangel> its recognizing all my drizes
[10:46] <seraphangel> the one im trying to play from is reiserfs from when i was on slack
[10:46] <dima_> :)
[10:46] <vikke> I have a question, if I need a package for a certain application, and that package depends on alot of other packages so i cant install it. how do I work that out?
[10:46] <joe3k> seraphangel: ahh ok
[10:47] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been successful in getting embedded video (Yahoo! news clips, for example) working using FF2.0 and mplayer plugin? i have not been able to get them to work in k/ubuntu edgy, though they worked fine in dapper, with FF1.5. i also just noticed that such videos work fine in mepis 6.0 & FF2.0. if anyone has a solution, please let me know.
[10:47] <joe3k> seraphangel: not sure what do you have to do there, did you check the permissions?
[10:47] <ubuntu> how do fomat a floppy to fat file system with ubuntu?
[10:47] <dima_> i setup squid on kubuntu and connect 20 peaple
[10:47] <seraphangel> its saying i dont have the right permission to play um
[10:48] <seraphangel> dont know the gui way
[10:48] <seraphangel> only command line
[10:48] <joe3k> seraphangel: check your permissions with ls -l /media/... plz
[10:49] <scoates> ubuntu: apt-get install dosfstools, then mkfs.dos
[10:49] <ubuntu> i can't install anything, i'm using a live cd
[10:49] <seraphangel> seraph@seraph:~$ ls -l /media/hdd
[10:49] <seraphangel> ls: /media/hdd: Permission denied
[10:50] <joe3k> seraphangel: and ls -l /media ?
[10:50] <nothlit> take out the /hdd part
[10:50] <joe3k> good point
[10:50] <seraphangel> dr-x------ 1 root root 12288 2006-11-11 21:44 hdd
[10:51] <seraphangel> weird
[10:51] <seraphangel> all the rest are....drwxr-xr-x
[10:51] <joe3k> seraphangel: do you have your fs automounted upon boot?
[10:52] <joe3k> seraphangel: if yes check your /etc/fstab and look for the line with hdd
[10:52] <seraphangel> dont remember if this one is or not for some reason it didnt mount a few that were sposed to be and i had to manually do it
[10:52] <ubuntu> is there a way to format a floppy to fat file system with a live kubuntu cd?
[10:52] <seraphangel> hm
[10:52] <seraphangel> actually
[10:53] <rafaguap> .. any clue to start searching about these acpi things??
[10:53] <seraphangel> it didnt add it to fstab
[10:53] <seraphangel> along with a few other drives
[10:53] <joe3k> ubuntu: try mkfs.dos as scoates suggested, if it does not work try maybe mkfs.vfat (maybe its the same, dont knw)
[10:53] <joe3k> ubuntu: if it's not working you can't do it with livecd
[10:54] <seraphangel> for the uuid do i need to add that part when i add the other drives to fstab?
[10:54] <joe3k> seraphangel: hmmm so i wonder who mounts it then
[10:54] <seraphangel> i manually did
[10:54] <joe3k> ahh ok
[10:54] <seraphangel> i keep this comp on 24/7 so i didnt realize it wasnt on auto
[10:54] <joe3k> seraphangel: not sure, didn't play with the uuids yet, it just happened during upgrade
[10:55] <seraphangel> hm
[10:55] <dima_> i have very interesting book about linux but they on russian language
[10:55] <seraphangel> i know how to add without it but some of the options in fstab are new
[10:55] <Xal> I just tried a previous version oa Kubuntu, and it still doesn't detect my partitions. Fdisk, however, does.
[10:55] <joe3k> seraphangel: according to man fstab you still can use the device name
[10:56] <joe3k> Xal: what disk is it, sata?
[10:57] <Xal> yes
[10:57] <Xal> It's on a Via controller, if that matters.
[10:58] <joe3k> Xal: did you look into launchpad? maybe it's a known problem ....
[10:58] <Xal> I've installed Linux on this drive before though, and why would fdisk see them?
[10:58] <Xal> No
[10:58] <Xal> How would I search for this though?
[10:58] <Xal> Setup doesn't detect partitions, but fdisk does?
[10:58] <joe3k> Xal: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[10:59] <joe3k> Xal: well if it's a bug in setup or something like that, than yes
[10:59] <Xal> Hmm, I wonder if the same bug would be in 6.06 and 6.10
[10:59] <joe3k> joe3k: i've no sata disks so i can't really tell
[10:59] <seraphangel> hm how would i take root off all my other partitions ecept my main system
[11:00] <Xal> joe3k: don't see anything that is specific to my problem.
[11:01] <joe3k> Xal: dunno, found some sata+via, but this one rather crashes https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qtparted/+bug/48494
[11:02] <SpySpooKy> hi, what is the default pw for "su -"?
[11:02] <nothlit> Is it just the setup that doesn't detect it? Does it show up under ls /dev ?
[11:02] <nothlit> SpySpooKy, null
[11:02] <joe3k> Xal: the next one https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2478
[11:03] <bLaZeD> SpySpooKy, there is no password
[11:03] <joe3k> nothlit: fdisk sees it
[11:03] <bLaZeD> SpySpooKy, its a randomly genrated number
[11:03] <joe3k> nothlit: strange
[11:03] <Xal> nothlit I'm not quite sure. Setup detects the drive, and fdisk detects the partitions. That's all I really know.
[11:03] <bLaZeD> !sudo | SpySpooKy
[11:03] <ubotu> SpySpooKy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:03] <nothlit> SpySpooKy, it doesnt work until you change the root password with sudo passwd but you can get a root shell with sudo -s (keeps variables) or sudo -i, replaces with root variables
[11:03] <SpySpooKy> okay, thx
[11:03] <bLaZeD> SpySpooKy, yea or u can do sudo su - to get a root terminal
[11:04] <joe3k> Xal: setup detects it? so you only cannot create parts/or install it there?
[11:04] <SortOfThing> sudo rulz
[11:04] <Xal> I can write an empty partition table, but I'd rather not do that.
[11:04] <Xal> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/2478 this is the exact problem, afaik
[11:04] <joe3k> Xal: ahh so you only don't see the partitions, i see now
[11:05] <Xal> yeah
[11:05] <joe3k> Xal: in the ticket it reads setup doesn't detect the disk
[11:05] <Xal> or it's close. I see the drive, but no partitions. I've tried 6.06 and 6.10
[11:05] <Xal> Yeah, misread that :p
[11:05] <Xal> Ah right, there's an error it comes up with:
[11:06] <taker> hello
[11:06] <taker> test test
[11:06] <Xal> critical error during ped_disk_new
[11:06] <taker> seems to work ;-)
[11:06] <joe3k> Xal: well you could check your dmesg but not sure it'd help
[11:06] <joe3k> Xal: console?
[11:07] <Xal> That's in setup in the partitioning stage.
[11:07] <taker> anyone able to read what I write?
[11:07] <ExitMenu> hello, I am doing a kubutu install and once I have done it I plan to install some other packages and some things not in the package managment system. I was wondering if anyone could recomed anysoftware to make and image of my install or a way I could make my own installer for my setup so the rest of the people I work with can use it as a base install
[11:07] <Xal> taker: no
[11:07] <Xal> ExitMenu there is something in the Kubuntu docs... I'll see if I can find the page
[11:08] <taker> Xal: Oh Thanks! It is my first time in chat.
[11:08] <Xal> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[11:08] <ExitMenu> ta
[11:08] <Xal> I'm just kidding
[11:08] <Xal> lol
[11:08] <joe3k> Xal: looks like a bug
[11:08] <Xal> I've installed Linux on this drive and controller before, though.
[11:08] <Xal> With 6.06
[11:08] <joe3k> ehm and now it doesn't work with 6.06 anymore?
[11:08] <Xal> and now not even 6.06 works.
[11:09] <joe3k> huh
[11:09] <Zarephath> Can't find this with apt-cache anyone help? checking for PIXBUF... configure: error: Package requirements (gdk-pixbuf-2.0 >= 2.1.2) were not met:
[11:09] <michele> upgraded 6.06 to 6.10, can't log into kde from kdm anymore, any idea
[11:09] <Xal> I got rid of 6.06 so that I could install 6.10 fresh. My previous 6.06 installation read the disks fine, and it installed fine originally.
[11:09] <joe3k> both look like a broken upgrade
[11:10] <Zarephath> Did you try to dist-upgrade?
[11:10] <joe3k> Xal: should have tried to upgrade ;-) now you'd be asking questions like michele does ;-)
[11:10] <Xal> joe3k: I did upgrade
[11:10] <Zarephath> Known problems with that method
[11:10] <Xal> It didn't work well.
[11:10] <michele> :op
[11:11] <joe3k> i had as well but eventuelly managed to get it working
[11:11] <Xal> I'm alright with Linux. I'm just not good at fixing problems like this.
[11:11] <Xal> When things that should work dont
[11:11] <jhondoe> Xal i don't like 6.10
[11:11] <jhondoe> 6.06's better
[11:11] <joe3k> though i had still some dapper packages in edgy then which were breaking installation of some other edgy packages
[11:11] <Varjat_by> Is anybody try to confugure Samba server with standart KDE utility? For examle I a member of workgroup.. Is it possible to tell this information to Samba through KDE System Settinf tool?
[11:11] <michele> you all suggest a fresh install?
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Google Earth core is constantly refreshing itself ...very irritating..anyone know a fix ?
[11:11] <Xal> jhondoe: and right now I cannot install either version.
[11:11] <Zarephath> Indeed..fresh is best
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: well
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: i suppose you tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <michele> yep
[11:12] <Xal> I had a few problems with 6.10 on my other computer.
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: and did it work?
[11:12] <michele> sure
[11:12] <Xal> The default xorg install is broken.
[11:12] <michele> no problems
[11:12] <ijacek> !cz
[11:12] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: ok than there's something wrong
[11:12] <michele> I can log into gnome from kdm no problem
[11:12] <joe3k> michele: :)
[11:12] <Xal> Well, I guess I'll clear the partition table and try again.
[11:13] <Xal> ah well :(
[11:13] <michele> AAHHH
[11:13] <joe3k> Xal: sorry i couldn't help
[11:13] <michele> np
[11:13] <Xal> no prob
[11:13] <joe3k> Xal: good lock anyway
[11:13] <Xal> I don't have anything really important on there.
[11:13] <Xal> Thanks ^^
[11:13] <michele> I was really hoping it would work ok this time
[11:14] <Xal> okay..
[11:14] <Xal> This is strange.
[11:14] <joe3k> michele: can you try to start kde manually?
[11:14] <Xal> It didn't show any partitions, but when I pressed next... it shows my partitons as possible mount points
[11:14] <Xal> oO
[11:14] <michele> that didn't work. startkde does nothing
[11:14] <joe3k> michele: some error msg?
[11:14] <michele> nope
[11:15] <michele> as far as I remember
[11:15] <joe3k> michele: dpkg -l "kde*" and check versions?
[11:15] <joe3k> michele: apt-get --reinstall every kde package? ... just generating ideas :)
[11:16] <michele> most versions on 3.5.5, but I have a few None
[11:16] <michele> also stuff I see on the Read More of kubuntu 6.10 isn't there
[11:17] <ijacek> i have kubuntu6.10 :)
[11:17] <joe3k> michele: what read more? don't know it ...
[11:17] <michele> sec
[11:17] <michele> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[11:17] <joe3k> michele: btw i hope you tried startkde only after X
[11:18] <Xal> joe3k: booting into 6.10 live CD now. This might just work
[11:18] <michele> doh?
[11:18] <Xal> This is still strange though.
[11:18] <michele> startx and then startkde?
[11:18] <michele> sorry don't understand
[11:19] <michele> startx puts me on a desktop already
[11:19] <joe3k> michele: sorry I meant X && startkde
[11:19] <joe3k> michele: you need an X display to run startkde I think
[11:19] <michele> ah, no
[11:19] <michele> I went startkde from the console
[11:19] <joe3k> michele: hm not 100% sure with the correct order
[11:20] <joe3k> michele: but i'd try stop kdm, then X & and when X starts, then startkde
[11:20] <moj0rising> I installed ubuntu with hardware raid 1 and it will not boot -- disk not found. Does anyone have any ideas/ know where I can find a solution?
[11:20] <michele> will try that
[11:20] <michele> found the startkde error
[11:20] <michele> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[11:20] <moj0rising> I have checked the forums and can't find what I'm looking for.
[11:21] <michele> sorry /home/michele/.kde/env/start-gpg-agent.sh: 2: Syntax error: Bad fd number
[11:21] <alucard9> hello
[11:22] <joe3k> michele: start-gpg-agent hm ....
[11:22] <michele> looks like a leftover
[11:22] <michele> from previous installation?
[11:22] <joe3k> michele: possible
[11:22] <michele> should I delete my .kde?
[11:22] <michele> and try again?
[11:22] <joe3k> michele: noooo
[11:22] <michele> ok
[11:23] <joe3k> michele: if you're ok loosing all your settings you might try
[11:23] <joe3k> michele: but you can try mv .kde .kde.old
[11:23] <michele> I knew that, but last straws
[11:23] <michele> yeah
[11:23] <snikker> i've add a command with no password in /etc/sudoers but doesn't work, why?
[11:23] <michele> move better
[11:23] <Armagguedes> hellus
[11:24] <joe3k> michele: i used once the gpg stuff but now i don't have the file you mention
[11:24] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[11:24] <sledge_at_work> beagle
[11:24] <joe3k> snikker: used visudo?
[11:24] <sledge_at_work> (That's the only one I know of.)
[11:25] <snikker> joe3k: yes
[11:25] <joe3k> snikker: can you paste the line?
[11:26] <snikker> joe3k: snikker ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter
[11:26] <seraphangel> whats the command for formating to ext3?
[11:26] <michele> I try your suggestions. Thanks a lot
[11:27] <sledge_at_work> seraphangel: mkfs -t ext3
[11:28] <seraphangel> would ext3 or resiserfs be better to use?
[11:29] <joe3k> snikker: and sudo /usr/bin/firestarter doesn't work, right?
[11:29] <snikker> joe3k: yes, doesn't work... it ask me the password...
[11:30] <joe3k> seraphangel: i'd stick with ext3
[11:31] <joe3k> snikker: can you pastebin your /etc/sudoers plz? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:32] <joe3k> snikker: i've no idea though but i'll see what i can do
[11:32] <snikker> joe3k: ok, just a moment...
[11:32] <seraphangel> in fstab what is the 2 2 at the end mean? kernal 2.4 it was 1 1
[11:33] <joe3k> seraphangel: the last one is the order in which it gets checked
[11:33] <snikker> joe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32423/
[11:34] <joe3k> seraphangel: man fstab, the 5th has something to do with dump
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i install flash
[11:36] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[11:38] <Oli> How can I show the Konqueror sidebar?
[11:38] <tamacracker> Does anyone have that application that fetches gmail
[11:38] <joe3k> snikker: well ... not sure
[11:38] <tamacracker> by clicking the taskbar icon?
[11:39] <joe3k> snikker: specifying commands separately doesn't work for me either, we're doing something wrong here
[11:39] <Oli> there's a sidebar which has amaroK, files and favorites
[11:39] <joe3k> snikker: but ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL works for me :)
[11:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !flash
[11:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:39] <Oli> it's there in some Konqueror profiles but not all.
[11:39] <bot12gb> #kubuntu-es
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[11:40] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> Admiral_Chicago, ^^^^
[11:41] <Legion> !DRM
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DRM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:42] <tamacracker> does anyone know the adept file that fetches gmail?
[11:42] <Oli> How can I show the Konqueror sidebar? It's a sidebar which has amaroK, files and favorites, it's there in some Konqueror profiles but not all.
[11:42] <snikker> joe3k: yes, maybe we're doing something wrong... but i don't understand what... anyway, thnks for support :)
[11:43] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[11:43] <Legion> I've downloaded the Kubuntu Desktop CD
[11:43] <Legion> will that work as a live CD aswell?
[11:44] <Xal> Yes
[11:44] <joe3k> Xal: worked?
[11:44] <Xal> No
[11:44] <Xal> I just cleared the partition table.
[11:44] <joe3k> ok
[11:44] <Xal> It still claimed that I didn't edit anything, so I gave up.
[11:44] <jager> so is sun java in the repositories?  which one?
[11:44] <joe3k> :-/
[11:44] <joe3k> gotta go now, bye
[11:49] <tamacracker> Does anyone know about the universe list?
[11:49] <Tm_T> !universe
[11:49] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:49] <Tm_T> ;)
[11:49] <tamacracker> thanks :)
[11:50] <awz> can anybody help me with installing the linux verstion of quake 3 arena
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> awz: google quake 3 linux
[11:51] <awz> i have the file
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> there's a guide somewhere on the internet
[11:51] <awz> its a .zip file
[11:51] <awz> and i unzipped it according to the guide
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> the guide knows all and sees all
[11:51] <scott_w|lappy> ;)
[11:52] <awz> now i have a .gz.sh file, but when i click on it, or try to run through the shell, there is a waiting icon, then nothing happens
[11:52] <bartek> HI!
[11:52] <awz> and
[11:52] <awz> when i use the konsole i get an error message
[11:52] <awz> and i've googled the error message, but no luck for 2 days
[11:52] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:52] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:52] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <awz> and i just now realised i could use an irc client to find help lol
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:53] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> i have problem with install the mp3 codec ;/
[11:55] <bartek> can enobidy help me??
[11:57] <BluesKaj> bartek , do you have amarok installed?
[11:57] <Alter-Ego> how do i upgrade from ubuntu to kubuntu ?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> bartek: install amarok
[11:57] <BluesKaj> !install
[11:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> Alter-Ego, install kubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[11:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[11:59] <Alter-Ego> after installation, will gnome still be there ?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> yes
[11:59] <Alter-Ego> but i should be able to remove it right ?
[11:59] <TheGateKeeper> you will be able to decide which desktop you want to use
[12:00] <TheGateKeeper> Alter-Ego, you can not install or uninstall on a livecd
[12:01] <TheGateKeeper> unless you chroot onto your hdd that is
[12:01] <Alter-Ego> sure you can, i install programs on livecd version all the time
[12:01] <Alter-Ego> granted, when you shut down, poof they are gone
[12:01] <Alter-Ego> but i am experimenting
[12:02] <TheGateKeeper> download kubuntu livecd then
[12:03] <Xal2> I wonder if I should try Gentoo again.
[12:04] <Armagguedes> can someone recommend me a desktop file & content search engine, like guggel desktop?
[12:04] <Xal2> google desktop?
[12:04] <brett_> Is the source code availible for all the games that kubuntu lets you install through add/remove programs?
[12:05] <Armagguedes> Xal2, beagle and so on
[12:05] <Xal2> Hmm, never thought of a use for something like it.
[12:05] <Xal2> I use locate.
[12:05] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, if it's an open source game then yes
[12:06] <brett_> TheGateKeeper: where can i find the source code if it is? i am interested in the konquest game
[12:06] <awz> i have an error trying to install linux quake 3 demo
[12:06] <awz> someone help?
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, hmmm how did I know that was going to be you next question lol
[12:07] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, sorry I don't know, however...
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, if you google you might be able to find a home sight and from that work out what the dev package is called, or be able to download it from the home site
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> s/sight/site
[12:08] <brett_> TheGateKeeper: thanks
[12:08] <TheGateKeeper> ooops
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, np :-)
[12:09] <TheGateKeeper> brett_, probable on sourceforge somewhere, most stuff that is open source seems to have a home there
[12:10] <Armagguedes> how do i do the initial WINE config?
[12:10] <brett_> TheGateKeeper: i think i found it
[12:10] <TheGateKeeper> :-)
[12:11] <_awz_> gatekeeper
[12:11] <_awz_> i have a slight problem, that maybe you can fix?
[12:11] <_awz_> is anybody here good at decifering errors
[12:11] <_awz_> would be greatly appreciated