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UbugtuNew bug: #72098 in Ubuntu "CTRL+ALT+F1 causes blank screen with nvidia-glx 1.0.8776+" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7209812:11
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UbugtuNew bug: #72099 in Ubuntu "Open Office - File->Wizards->Letter (or others) cause application to lock up when nvidia-glx installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7209912:21
UbugtuNew bug: #72100 in linux-meta (main) "nfsroot doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210012:21
UbugtuNew bug: #72101 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "hda: dma_intr: bad DMA status (dma_stat=36)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210112:21
UbugtuNew bug: #72102 in Ubuntu "Kernel warning at boot in dapper and edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210212:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72091 in yarssr (universe) "Yarssr becomes unusable after you change check-up time to zero" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7209112:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72104 in sylpheed-claws-gtk2 (universe) "Sylpheed-claws-gtk2 crashes while changing view " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210412:50
UbugtuNew bug: #69197 in beagle (main) "beagle exec: 24: -a: not found" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6919712:51
UbugtuNew bug: #72106 in firefox (main) "Started Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210601:00
UbugtuNew bug: #72052 in pouetchess (universe) "MOTU SRU proposal" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7205201:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #71947 in gnome-utils (main) "Gnome-screenshot crash for unknown reason; bug report provided " [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7194701:20
UbugtuNew bug: #72107 in gnome-screensaver (main) "cannot unlock screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210701:25
UbugtuNew bug: #72072 in gnuplot (universe) "feature request for --enable-history-file build option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7207201:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #72108 in kde-guidance (main) "100% CPU clock speed after suspend" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210801:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #71463 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "WLAN enabled led is not lit on ipw2200 cards" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7146301:55
UbugtuNew bug: #71559 in Ubuntu "libgcc_s.so.1 prob? libstdc++.so.1 and libgcj.so.70 complain about GCC_4.2.0 no being found" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7155901:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72109 in epiphany-browser (main) "Font size too small." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7210902:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #72071 in openh323 (universe) "[Merge]  openh323 1.18.0.dfsg-1ubuntu1" [Wishlist,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7207102:36
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UbugtuNew bug: #72111 in Ubuntu "regression 2.6.17-10-generic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211102:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #72112 in aptitude (main) ""initalizing package status" process so slowly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211202:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #69173 in rpm (main) "rpm -t* <compressed file> don't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6917303:20
UbugtuNew bug: #72114 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Touchpad should be disabled when typing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211403:20
UbugtuNew bug: #71907 in enemylines3 (universe) "quit unexpectedly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7190703:25
UbugtuNew bug: #71546 in dapper-backports (universe) "(feisty)No icon for brasero" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7154603:35
UbugtuNew bug: #72115 in amule (universe) "(kubuntu edgy) amule crashes when closing tab." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211503:50
UbugtuNew bug: #72116 in bibletime (universe) "Bibletime installation defaults in Arabic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211603:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72117 in nvclock (universe) "Stack Smashing Prevents Use" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211703:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #72119 in mesa-utils (main) "glxinfo crashes - seg fault core dumped" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211904:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #72120 in kde-guidance (main) "Screen brightness not altered when AC adapter is unplugged" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212004:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72121 in banshee (universe) "Crash: during regular playback" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212104:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72122 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (restricted) "FGLRX Version Mismatch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212204:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72123 in hal (main) "HAL crashes due to battery problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212304:41
UbugtuNew bug: #69137 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "Human theme missing tab close button" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6913704:47
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UbugtuNew bug: #72124 in ubiquity (main) "Installing ubuntu desktop error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212405:00
UbugtuNew bug: #72125 in Ubuntu "Daylight Saving changes in Western Australia" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212505:35
UbugtuNew bug: #72126 in Ubuntu "Firefox, Swiftfox Both Crash When Popups are Called" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212605:47
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UbugtuNew bug: #71796 in evolution (main) "[Edgy]  crash browsing attached pictures" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7179606:15
UbugtuNew bug: #72128 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[Edgy]  hibernate problem" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212806:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72129 in gnome-power-manager (main) "[Edgy]  full charge detection problem (regression)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7212906:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72130 in gnome-panel (main) "The gnome-panel crashed when operation firefox, Evolution and Gwget." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213006:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72131 in drip (universe) "[Feisty MoM]  please sync drip-0.9.0-3 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213106:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72132 in gnome-panel (main) "The gnome-panel crashed when operation firefox, Evolution and Gwget." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213206:41
UbugtuNew bug: #72133 in briquolo (universe) "Exited suddenly using old set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213306:41
UbugtuNew bug: #72134 in Ubuntu "home folder is not created when a new user is created through users-admin" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213406:41
UbugtuNew bug: #71461 in gaim (main) "gaim crash when right click" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7146107:01
UbugtuNew bug: #72135 in mutagen (universe) "Please sync mutagen_1.8-1 from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213507:10
UbugtuNew bug: #72136 in Ubuntu "package request: computertemp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213607:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #71967 in kdebase (universe) "kdbus crashes right away" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7196707:31
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UbugtuNew bug: #72137 in firefox (main) "open www.cisco.com->products->switches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213707:47
UbugtuNew bug: #72138 in amule (universe) "amulegui crashed while looking at statistics" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213807:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #72118 in update-manager (main) "Update from 6.06 LTS to edgy aborts - Multiple Problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211808:05
UbugtuNew bug: #72139 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "R250 in HP Pavilion laptop no longer works with external monitor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7213908:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #72048 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Konqueror can't open audio CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7204808:20
UbugtuNew bug: #72096 in control-center (main) "SOunds crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7209608:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #71993 in usplash (main) "Boot splash screen aspect ratio incorrect with 5:4 aspect ratio" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7199308:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72092 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashed after I enabled two accounts and scrolled in the options" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7209208:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72140 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashed after internet disconnect/connect" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214008:36
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secretlondonhi hobbsee08:40
Hobbseehey secretlondon!08:41
secretlondonmy net has been off for a few days :(08:42
Hobbseeid' noticed that you hadnt been here08:42
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Hobbseeme neither08:43
Hobbseealthough i am thinking about installing feisty08:44
secretlondonHobbsee: I thought about it too - no daily image yet08:44
Hobbseeyeah, not until after herd 108:44
HobbseeNovember 30th08:45
Hobbsee{1} Herd CD 108:45
Hobbseeouch, that pasted very badly08:45
Hobbseeno daily image at all?  oh yes, because they likely wont work08:46
Hobbseesecretlondon: install off the latest edgy, then dist-upgrade it08:47
secretlondonHobbsee: yeah, my wireless driver in edgy is pretty borked though. I'm still using dapper because of it08:47
Hobbseewhich one?08:48
Hobbseeoh, whatever that is08:48
secretlondonit moved from a module to a rewritten one in the kernel - I'm having terrible probs with it08:48
MezHobbsee=teh spamm0r08:49
HobbseeMez: yep.  and the kicker08:49
Mezyou're going to kick yourself ?08:49
Hobbseebut i might kick you08:49
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Mezkick me08:50
Hobbseepity i cant in here08:51
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secretlondondoes aptitude install recommends automatically - and if so how does it choose between virtual package providers?09:04
Burgundaviasecretlondon: yes and no idea09:06
secretlondonBurgundavia: thanks09:06
Burgundaviahowever, synaptic does it as well now09:07
Hobbseesecretlondon: what do you mean by the second questoin?09:08
Hobbseesecretlondon: apparently LRM are in feisty09:08
secretlondonit's about bug #72116 - we are apparently installing a non-english language one09:08
UbugtuMalone bug 72116 in bibletime "Bibletime installation defaults in Arabic" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7211609:08
secretlondonit's a virtual package as a recommends09:08
secretlondonHobbsee: what's LRM?09:10
Hobbseesecretlondon: linux-restricted-modules09:10
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secretlondonoh the binary drivers by default thing so they can get bling?09:10
Hobbseeit's the non-free stuff so for wifi, atheros cards, etc09:11
Burgundaviaany non-free driver is in there09:12
Burgundaviathat we ship by default, that is09:12
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secretlondonHobbsee: ah - a ref to my wifi driver probs?09:13
Hobbseesecretlondon: oh, that's sucky09:13
secretlondonHobbsee: as the new driver is in the kernel I can't imagine we'll have the old in restricted09:13
Hobbseesecretlondon: that recommends is wrong.  there's no sword-text, so it seems to be grabbing the first hting it finds that fits sword-text*09:14
Hobbseesecretlondon: ahh09:14
secretlondonHobbsee: they should be able to choose between bibles I guess09:15
Hobbseesecretlondon: yeah, but you cant really do that during install.  actually, that package is brougth in by ichutux-live anyway09:15
secretlondonpuc says sword-text is a virtual package09:16
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secretlondonI think it is because they are things we can actually fix09:17
Hobbseei say sword-text doesnt exist09:17
Hobbseeindeed :)09:17
Hobbseei'm about to build it and throw it into feisty09:17
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secretlondonHobbsee: so why does puc think that 14 packages can provide it?09:19
Hobbseesecretlondon: oh, because sword-text-web provides sword-text09:20
Hobbseethat being said, no idea why09:20
Hobbseeohhhh...i know09:20
Hobbseeit's lookinjg for the first package which provides sword-text, which happens to be the arabic one.09:21
Hobbseeseeing as sword-text doesnt actually exist in edgy09:21
Hobbsee!info sword-text dapper09:22
ubotuPackage sword-text does not exist in dapper09:22
Hobbseeor dapper09:22
secretlondon!info sword-text edgy09:22
ubotuPackage sword-text does not exist in edgy09:22
HobbseeNeed to get 31.9MB/75.6MB of archives.09:23
secretlondonwe should probably give them an english language one by default - but in that case there are 2 - and the non-english lang ones are specialist such as in hebrew etc09:23
secretlondonHobbsee: eew09:23
Hobbseeyeah, i just used the latest english version09:23
Hobbseekjv is hardly english for today09:24
secretlondonHobbsee: I think some denominations see it as more true, or something. I leave that to them to sort out though - if they know they have the choice09:24
Hobbseetrue that.  it's easy to install extra versoins09:24
Hobbseeand word-for-word may be more correct but it's certainly harder to read.09:25
secretlondonthe rest of it is a docs issue (if it's an issue at all)09:26
Hobbseesecretlondon: backports, or updates?09:28
Hobbseesecretlondon: or wait for raphink (the last uploader, and maintainer) to decide09:28
Hobbseeor dont backport it?  hmmm...09:29
secretlondonHobbsee: I'd guess updates as it currently doesn't really work09:29
Hobbseebut that requires an SRU :(09:29
ubotusru is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates09:29
secretlondonHobbsee: :(09:31
Hobbseethe universe version of that appears to be gone09:32
Hobbseesecretlondon: throwing it into feisty now :)09:32
secretlondonHobbsee: yay fix!09:32
Hobbseesecretlondon: where's the next bug?  :)09:33
secretlondon1 bug down, three hundred million to go!09:33
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Hobbseeget cracking :)09:33
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secretlondonHobbsee: How do I go about getting my SWScanner patch into feisty?09:36
Hobbseesecretlondon: where's the patch?  and what package does it get patched against?09:36
secretlondonHobbsee: I'll find it. it's against swscanner and is on malone09:37
secretlondonbug #6194809:38
UbugtuMalone bug 61948 in swscanner "Various English mistakes as listed" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6194809:39
Hobbseesecretlondon: sigh.09:39
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Hobbsee!info swscanner edgy09:39
ubotuswscanner: Simple Wireless Scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 967 kB, installed size 1952 kB09:39
pygiHobbsee: what ?:)09:40
Hobbseepygi: i can fix it09:42
pygiright, I thought you said "woot" because it's wireless thingy :)09:42
Hobbseesecretlondon: cool :)  have you emailed upstream about it?09:44
secretlondonHobbsee: yes - and he accepted it! (my first ever!!) but they won't be releasing a new one until early 200709:44
Hobbseesecretlondon: way cool :)09:44
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pygisecretlondon: hehe, congrats :)09:45
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UbugtuNew bug: #72141 in vtk (universe) "Missing vtkWrap* stuff" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214109:47
Hobbsee!info swscanner edgy09:50
ubotuswscanner: Simple Wireless Scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 967 kB, installed size 1952 kB09:50
Hobbsee!info swscanner feisty09:50
UbugtuNew bug: #72142 in firefox (main) "Crash on closing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214209:50
secretlondonHobbsee: puc has it in feisty09:52
Hobbsee!info swscanner feisty09:52
ubotuswscanner: Simple Wireless Scanner. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 967 kB, installed size 1952 kB09:52
Hobbseeoh good, same version09:52
Hobbseeoh that's sucky, that bug about kdesu09:53
Hobbseesecretlondon: found the fix to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/swscanner/+bug/61947 ?09:53
UbugtuMalone bug 61947 in swscanner "Lower lefthand frame moves when displaying channel 11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 09:53
secretlondonHobbsee: I think nixternal's done some work on the kdesu one09:53
secretlondonHobbsee: no - that's in upstream afaik09:54
UbugtuNew bug: #72143 in ubuntu-artwork (main) "please revert startup sounds" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214309:55
Hobbseesecretlondon: yes, seems to recommend kdebase-bin09:55
Hobbseeunless you changed the kdesu|gksudo, i guess09:56
secretlondonyep - ideally it would just need something providing sudo09:56
secretlondonbut it is a kde package09:56
Hobbseeupstream can change it10:05
Hobbseebut it is a kde package yes10:05
Hobbseeamarok does that somehow - i dont remember how10:06
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Hobbseesecretlondon: building it now10:08
secretlondonHobbsee: are there any distros (apart from debian) which are worth looking at for patches on kde universe apps like that?10:08
Hobbseeno idea10:08
Hobbsee!find libqshp.so10:09
secretlondonI always check debian10:09
ubotuPackage/file libqshp.so does not exist in edgy10:09
Hobbseeuh oh....10:09
secretlondonHobbsee: I only changed strings, no code10:09
Hobbseeyes...but i think we'll have problems anyway10:10
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Hobbseewhy is it trying to compile it, just to build hte source10:10
Hobbseeahhh..there we go...10:11
Hobbseepainful thing10:12
Hobbseeyou dont need to run autohell to build the source.  only the binary!10:12
Hobbseeoh well, dinner time10:13
Hobbseesecretlondon: i'll poke you when i come back, can probably upload mroe if you want10:13
secretlondonHobbsee: cool10:13
secretlondoni'm off testing #7214510:19
UbugtuNew bug: #72145 in larswm (universe) "Broken default configuration" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214510:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #72147 in firefox (main) "crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214710:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72149 in libgcrypt11 (main) "Error in documentation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7214910:36
secretlondonI've no idea how to confirm all these developer crypto docs bugs (they've submitted 4 of them)10:46
UbugtuNew bug: #72151 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "Error message when running Adept" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215110:47
crimsunI'll look.10:48
secretlondoncrimsun: thanks. debian doesn't have any of them10:49
secretlondonhaven't got any further than that10:49
UbugtuNew bug: #72152 in wpasupplicant (main) "ifupdown script fails to terminate wpasupplicant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215210:56
UbugtuNew bug: #72153 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "[Regression]  Bad resolution choices on Edgy live CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215311:05
UbugtuNew bug: #72154 in dcmtk (universe) "Install directoy  for headers erroneous " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215411:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #72155 in totem (main) "crashed opening wmv" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215511:10
UbugtuNew bug: #72156 in glibc-doc-reference (main) "The file /usr/share/doc-base/glibc-manual exists in glibc-doc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215611:10
UbugtuNew bug: #72157 in file-roller (main) "file-roller crashes while opening .gz file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215711:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #72024 in libgcrypt11 (main) "Error in documentation" [Low,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7202411:25
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UbugtuNew bug: #72158 in doxygen (main) "New Doxygen Release 1.5.1" [Undecided,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215811:40
crimsunthat's such a strange description.11:42
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Hobbseehey Ubugtu11:43
Hobbseehey ubuntu_demon11:43
secretlondoncrimsun: the doxygen bug?11:43
crimsunsecretlondon: yes.11:43
secretlondonit was a changelog but then they realised it was in feisty and blanked it11:44
crimsunyep, from reading +activity11:44
Hobbseesecretlondon: drat.11:44
secretlondonHobbsee: what's up?11:45
crimsunI'm still perplexed as to why it wasn't a self-reject11:45
Hobbseesecretlondon: your patch didnt work correctly11:45
secretlondoncrimsun: a lot of people don't know how to - it's not obvious11:45
secretlondonHobbsee: really?11:45
ubuntu_demonhey Hobbsee11:45
Hobbseesecretlondon: yeah, i'll fix it :)11:46
secretlondonHobbsee: what was the problem?11:46
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UbugtuNew bug: #72044 in firefox (main) "firefox crash using xubuntu-desktop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7204411:47
Hobbseesecretlondon: i'll tell you in a sec11:48
Hobbseesecretlondon: can you take the /home/secret/Build/ bit out of all your patches please, and resubmit?11:53
Hobbseein vi, it seems to want to be painful11:53
Hobbseeand that's why it failed11:53
crimsunin the build stage? dpatch or ...?11:53
crimsunarguably patch systems need to be more flexible (use -d and -p, and vary them as necessary)11:54
secretlondonHobbsee: sure. It was done by the patch utility11:54
secretlondonso take it out manually?11:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72058 in upstart (main) "Documentation about vanished /etc/inittab should be added" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7205811:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72159 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "obsolete Line6 driver included" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7215911:55
Hobbseesecretlondon: well, there are usually shortcuts to do it, but yeah11:59
=== Hobbsee just did it manually, then overwrote it by accident
secretlondonHobbsee: am doing11:59
Hobbseecrimsun: when it was running thru pbuilder11:59
Hobbseesecretlondon: please telling me you're using a substitute11:59
secretlondonHobbsee: I'm doing it in gedit12:00
Hobbseesecretlondon: cool12:00
secretlondonbut manually12:00
crimsunsed -i   works better12:00
UbugtuNew bug: #72160 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "TB crashed while writing reply email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216012:00
UbugtuNew bug: #72161 in emacs-snapshot (universe) "emacs uses 100% cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216112:00
Hobbseeif you can figure out hwo to do it with the /'s12:01
secretlondonI've never used sed, or vi or anything12:01
Hobbseethere's usually a find and replace in gedit, i would expect12:03
Hobbseehmm, done it thru kate12:03
secretlondondone it now12:03
secretlondonattached as new patch12:04
Hobbseecrimsun: how do i read a rejected section12:05
crimsunthe top portion is what was expected; the bottom is what actually existed12:06
crimsunas for sed:12:07
crimsungarnish% cat crack && sed -i s\@home/crim/\@@ crack && cat crack12:07
crimsunsometimes it's easier to not use '/' as the regexp delimiter, which is what using \somechar allows you to do12:07
Hobbseecrimsun: can you check http://librarian.launchpad.net/5097432/swscanner-0.2.2-2ubuntu2.patch please?  AUTHORS is not being accepted12:08
Hobbseeohh, i missed the two \\'s12:08
Hobbseeis it a lack of spaces, or something?12:09
Hobbseecrimsun: how to fix it?12:10
crimsunactually it seems fine12:11
crimsungarnish% patch -s -p1 --dry-run <../swscanner-0.2.2-2ubuntu2.patch ; echo $?12:11
Hobbseewhat's -s do?12:11
crimsunsilent (don't print the patching ...)12:11
crimsun(unless there are errors)12:11
Hobbseethen why isnt it liking me?12:11
crimsunno idea. I'm doing this against feisty's current source package12:12
crimsunwhat patch syntax are you using?12:13
Hobbseesarah@liquified:~/merges/swscanner-0.2.2$ patch -p1 --dry-run  < debian/patches/english_spelling_errors_fix.diff12:13
Hobbseeer, yet but with -s, it's giving 0 errors12:14
Hobbseeoh wait, it's stopped buggering12:14
Hobbseecrimsun: very odd12:15
crimsunare you used possessed laptop?12:15
crimsunusing, even12:15
Hobbseethis is my new one :)12:15
UbugtuNew bug: #72163 in Ubuntu "snd-hda-intel causes heaps of xruns with jack" [Undecided,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216312:16
crimsunuh, how is that marked fix committed?!12:17
Hobbseecrimsun: actually, i'm not using my machine at all12:17
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secretlondoncrimsun: they marked as they didn't know what fix committed meant12:18
Hobbseecrimsun: why cant i have root access on the machine they built on?12:18
Hobbseeer, i build on?12:18
crimsunHobbsee: ...which machine is that?12:19
Hobbseecrimsun: stevenk's machine12:19
crimsunthat's a good question. I think you need to raise that to him. :-)12:20
Hobbseesigh, i'm an idot12:23
Hobbseeright, there we go.  rebuilding12:24
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Hobbseecrimsun: what do i need to install for x includes, again?12:37
Hobbseesecretlondon: while that builds, again, hopefully for the last time, what else have you found for uploading?12:40
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Hobbseehey PriceChild12:49
PriceChildHey Hobbsee :)12:49
PriceChildHow's things?12:49
HobbseePriceChild: you wrote that rant about kubuntu, didnt you12:49
Hobbseei'm fighting swscanner12:49
PriceChildwhat rant?12:49
Hobbseeoh, must have been maniacmusician12:49
PriceChildhe he where?12:49
Hobbseea rant on the forums12:49
Hobbseeand swscanner is a package12:49
=== PriceChild looks
Hobbseedont remember12:49
PriceChildi'll search his posts12:49
Hobbseeit wasnt that good12:51
UbugtuNew bug: #72164 in tomboy (main) "Italian translation isn't correct" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216412:51
PriceChildhmmm can't find it...12:53
Hobbseeoh well12:53
Hobbseeit wasnt that good12:53
Hobbseei didnt think it was particularly fair, either.12:53
PriceChildhow long ago was it?12:53
Hobbseebut that being said, it's on the forums, so i dont have to read it :)12:53
Hobbseefew days ago12:54
PriceChildthat one?12:54
Hobbseeyeah, that's the one12:54
PriceChildIf he's true he's got a point12:55
HobbseeUploading via ftp swscanner_0.2.2-2ubuntu2.dsc: done.12:55
HobbseeUploading via ftp swscanner_0.2.2-2ubuntu2.diff.gz: done.12:55
HobbseeUploading via ftp swscanner_0.2.2-2ubuntu2_source.changes: done.12:55
HobbseeSuccessfully uploaded packages.12:55
PriceChildhe he :)12:56
PriceChildgo team12:56
Hobbseeright, that closes 2 bugs12:56
PriceChildwow nice one :)12:56
Hobbseemuch more productive to upload things, than to whine on the forums :P12:56
PriceChildi wish i could code/package/anything :)12:56
PriceChildyeah defo12:56
Hobbseethere's bug triage12:57
PriceChildI had a look at hte debian package maintainers guide a bit ago and it looked on the edge of ok/scary12:57
PriceChildI suppose i could do that maybe12:57
Hobbseehe does actually have a partial point.  the current system settings stuff is a mess12:57
=== Hobbsee wonders if she can search malone for bugs with patches attached
=== PriceChild thinks Hobsee should make it a bug if she can't
PriceChild: )12:59
Hobbseewah.  there's a bug here that i thought i fixed.12:59
palskiHobbsee: if you want to review more patches you could check some of mine ;)12:59
PriceChildyou're slacking! :)12:59
Hobbseepalski: where are they, and what are they for?12:59
=== Hobbsee mutters "please tell me it's not for NEW stuff"
Hobbseehmmm.  i could have sworn i fixed bug 6545701:00
UbugtuMalone bug 65457 in cinepaint "[UNMETDEPS]  cinepaint has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6545701:00
palskisome bugfixes with debdiffs, assigned to moty-reviewers01:01
HobbseePriceChild: yeah well.    i knew that :P01:01
Hobbseepalski: if you want to give me the bug #'s, that'd be helpful01:01
PriceChildHobbsee are you MOTU?01:02
palskiHobbsee: sure bug #71967 for example01:02
UbugtuMalone bug 71967 in kdbus "kdbus crashes right away" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7196701:02
HobbseePriceChild: yes01:02
HobbseePriceChild: else i couldnt upload swscanner :P01:02
PriceChildhey i don't know these things :)01:02
PriceChildI'm a forums guy that wants to do more but hasn't a clue :)01:03
PriceChildand who really should finish this maths assignment....01:03
PriceChildits impossible :(01:03
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Hobbseei hate them01:03
PriceChildwe haven't even been taught any of it :(01:03
Hobbseewhat is if for?01:04
PriceChildjust like little homework01:04
PriceChildapplied stuff about differential equations01:04
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PriceChildcounts to 10% of this term...01:04
PriceChildand we need 50% this term to stay in uni01:04
PriceChildso should be fine01:04
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UbugtuNew bug: #72165 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse 3.2.1 - Callisto" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216501:05
Hobbseefirst year?01:05
PriceChildyup :)01:05
=== Hobbsee did her maths exam 2 days ago
PriceChildI did further maths too and i'm struggling...01:05
PriceChildI'l survive :)01:06
PriceChildas long as i have my weetabix01:06
PriceChildi know i'll stay alive01:06
Hobbseewhy is debian hating me tonight?01:07
PriceChildbecause debian's evil01:07
Hobbseewe take a lot of our patches from there.  it's not evil01:07
PriceChildI can't believe i only just found out yday where they get the names of their distros from...01:07
PriceChildI'm such a newb :)01:08
Hobbseei didnt find that out until recently either01:08
HobbseePriceChild: is http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/c/cinepaint/cinepaint_0.20-1-1.3/changelog 404'd for you too?01:08
PriceChildits so obvious too!01:08
PriceChildi love that film :)01:08
PriceChildnot looking like it...01:08
PriceChildmy net's really slow for some reason...01:08
PriceChildbut i've got a grey b/g01:09
PriceChilduuu yes 40401:09
Hobbseehmmm.  there's a newer version anyway01:09
=== Hobbsee leaves it for the moment - looks like debian is playing with it
Hobbseepalski: looking01:10
PriceChildargh an hour left :'(01:10
Hobbseepalski: 2 things:01:10
Hobbseein fact, 3 things01:11
Hobbseepalski: 1: description in debian/changelog isnt terribly descriptive.01:11
Hobbseepalski: 2:  you're patching the source.  you need to take the debian changelog stuff out, have the rest as a patch that you put into debian/patches, and create a debdiff of all of it01:12
Hobbseeand 1.1: you should probably also note in the changelog that it's fixed in the next version upstream, so it's easier to merge01:12
Hobbseepalski: 3: when's upstream releasing a new version?  can we package that instead?01:13
PriceChildHmm i think i'll stick to the community and just "dabble" :)01:14
HobbseePriceChild: it's okay.  i had some trouble with swscanner earlier, so am being slightly nitpicky :P01:15
palskiSure it is better to package upstream but don't know when it's goingto be released01:15
UbugtuNew bug: #71432 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "gnome-volume manager depends on gnome-mount, which does not exist" [Undecided,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7143201:15
Hobbseeand the patch is incorrect01:15
Hobbseepalski: yeah, thought as much.  i cant see it either :(01:15
PriceChildhe he yeah :)01:15
palskiHow is it incorreect?01:16
Hobbseepalski: because if i use that patch as is, it'll modify the source, which is *BAD*01:16
HobbseePriceChild: there's a ubuntu packaging guide - it covers a lot of this :)01:16
PriceChildI might have a look at it over the weekend01:17
HobbseePriceChild: or help triage.  that might be more useful01:17
FujitsuGah, my DNS seems to have failed, so I can't reject 71432 :(01:17
PriceChildI tried to package xvidcap using the debian packagers guide as a few people asked me to01:17
Hobbseehow'd you do?01:17
=== Hobbsee *hates* doing NEW stuff
PriceChildpersonally i think i did pretty well01:17
Hobbseeeither packaging or reviewing it.01:17
Hobbseelinda/lintian disagreed?01:18
FujitsuHobbsee: I don't absolutely hate it, but I don't like it.01:18
PriceChildno i didn't get as far as submitting it01:18
HobbseeFujitsu: GET REVIEWING!!!!! kthnksbye!01:18
PriceChild"pretty well for myself" :)01:18
HobbseePriceChild: awww01:18
PriceChildI WILL finish it01:18
PriceChildi've still got it waiting....01:18
PriceChildit NEEDS to be done :P01:18
Hobbseefeel free to poke me about it if you want some help01:18
Hobbseefor feisty01:18
Hobbseepalski: they took this direct patch, i assume?01:19
PriceChildalthough i like Istanbul better now.... more the merrier01:19
=== PriceChild pokes
palskiHobbsee: yes, without changelog stuff ofcourse01:19
Hobbseepalski: cool :)  i'll upload the various bits, so you can see how you got it wrong - would that help?01:20
HobbseePriceChild: hehe01:20
PriceChildI think I'm going to give up on this assignment :(01:20
PriceChildits just too much too late01:20
HobbseePriceChild: :(01:20
Hobbseei'd help you out, but i cant see it01:21
PriceChildhe he01:21
PriceChildi've got a solution in front of me...01:21
palskiHobbsee: sure, and thanks for helping by the way :)01:21
=== PriceChild gets fed up and drops papers on flowo
Hobbseepalski: not a problem :)01:22
Hobbseepalski: the correct diff is there, still packaging it01:22
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PriceChildha ha...01:23
palskiHobbsee: is there somekind of howto fix bugs in ubuntu tutorial, I didn't find any, just debian sites01:23
Hobbseeoh noo...01:23
HobbseePriceChild: you in -motu?01:23
PriceChildi'm taking that's a "head to desk"?01:23
PriceChildno... should i be?01:23
Hobbseepalski: there isnt.  one's being written, i believe01:23
HobbseePriceChild: yep01:23
PriceChildi am now01:23
HobbseePriceChild: well, that's where i'm getting grilled, as i just said that 3rd party repos break things01:23
PriceChildneed backing up?01:23
PriceChildI have an AMAZING topic on the forums for htis...01:24
Hobbseeahhh, ajmitch comes to the rescue :)01:24
=== ajmitch gives up
PriceChilda maintainer purposefully added "breakage" to their repo to "warn" people01:24
PriceChildthey couldn't sudo anymore....01:24
Hobbseeajmitch: haha01:25
PriceChildand yeah i agree that no-one should condone 3rd party repos... but everyone uses them ;)01:25
HobbseePriceChild: i liked the guy who added the skull image to his packages :)01:25
PriceChildtake a looksee01:25
HobbseePriceChild: then they expect things to break when tehy distupgrade.  duh01:25
PriceChildis that the one that made the background a skull?01:25
PriceChildthat you couldn't change?01:25
Hobbseewill look in a sec, when i'm building01:26
Hobbseeyup :D01:26
Hobbseeyou could - it was just a gconf key01:26
PriceChildthat's the link i gave you then...01:26
Hobbseethere was no other way to force replace it01:26
PriceChildPLUS sudo didnt' work01:26
Hobbseeyep, just swa01:26
Hobbseethat was something else01:26
Hobbseethat was from one of the other billion repos on there01:26
Hobbseehe only changed the background01:26
PriceChildbut the collection of repos from whoever it was...01:26
PriceChildsome other maintainer changed sudoers01:27
HobbseePriceChild: fact of the matter is, unofficial repos are dangerous - i could run rm -rf/ in a preinst of a package, and no one would ever know, unless they checked it.01:27
PriceChildi don't think they were happy about not being asked whether they could have their repo added somewhere :P01:27
PriceChildI agree completely01:27
HobbseePriceChild: in ubuntu, they do.  or you've been given rights, because they trust you.01:27
Hobbseebut unoffically?  shudder01:27
Hobbseetrue that01:27
PriceChildThe only unofficial repo i use is beryl01:28
PriceChildi got into an argument with Amaranth a few weeks back01:28
Hobbseeyeah well.  i yelled at them for being irresponsible01:28
PriceChildOn my beryl guide ont he official wiki, he was putting the point that using the nvidia binary installer is dangerous...01:28
PriceChildbut wouldn't accept that many people wouldn't trust his repository, and would prefer to install the binary where possible01:29
UbugtuNew bug: #72166 in kpowersave (universe) "autosuspend breaks if there are 2+ X ssessions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216601:30
HobbseeROFL @ Fujitsu!!!!01:30
Hobbsee[23:30]  <Fujitsu> There's always the option of making a, you know... Not broken repository?01:30
=== ajmitch goes back to playing freeciv
ajmitchotherwise I'll end up breaking the CoC01:31
FujitsuCan't we get the CC to grant an exemption for this sort of thing? :(01:32
Hobbseeajmitch: haha01:32
Hobbseeajmitch: wise01:32
Hobbseepalski: corrected debdiff is up there too.  i cant spell :)01:32
palskiHobbsee: thank you01:32
Hobbseepalski: not a problem - tell me if it doesnt make sense :)01:32
palskiHobbsee: it makes sense :) And know I know how to fix other patches too. This was really helpful01:34
Hobbseepalski: not a problem :)01:34
Hobbseepalski: as modifying the source is *bad*01:35
Hobbseepalski: in that case, we'll take that patch out when we get the new version, as it's fixed upstream - how tedious is it to find out what was changed, and manually change it all back01:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #72167 in dash (main) "dash "echo -e" echoes "-e"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216701:35
Hobbseepalski: especially if you're talking about multiple changes or something01:35
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palskisure, this is understood know :)01:37
PriceChildHobbsee I don't like the attitude of some of those in -motu :(01:37
ajmitchPriceChild: sorry, some of us have wasted too much time having to deal with this crap01:37
Hobbseeajmitch: heh, far too much01:38
HobbseePriceChild: any idea what happens with a broken dbus?01:38
ajmitchI've made complaints before to them about how it's wasted my time with f-spot (they broke libdbus-cil, for example)01:38
HobbseePriceChild: it's *very* important that this kind of stuff gets fixed.01:38
=== PriceChild calls on his very indepth technical knowledge...
PriceChildAs far as i know dbus is very important01:38
=== PriceChild 's in depth technical knowledge runs out
FujitsuVery, very important. It gives Ubuntu a bad name when upgrades (or even stable versions with added repositories) break.01:39
Hobbseeoh gosh.....01:39
HobbseePriceChild: yep. that's about my knowledge of it too. you break that, and you break how many other apps?  wet finger in the air guess.  more than 101:40
PriceChildhe he :)01:40
UbugtuNew bug: #72041 in evolution (main) "Evolution 2.8.1 problems with IMAP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7204101:40
PriceChildwoo i'm as knowledgable as Hobbsee :)01:40
UbugtuNew bug: #72168 in kde-guidance (main) "[Edgy]  displayconfig can't find ixf86misc module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216801:40
UbugtuNew bug: #72169 in Ubuntu "freeze during extinction" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7216901:40
PriceChildyou should make me motu cuz of that :P01:40
HobbseePriceChild: i dont deal in dbugs :)01:41
Hobbseedisplayconfig cant find the what module?  ouch01:41
HobbseeFujitsu: :D01:41
HobbseeFujitsu: you know you want to01:41
PriceChildI've just noticed Ubugtu is fixed :)01:41
HobbseeFujitsu: if you want to nitpick it, then i will, and then we can upload it to feisty01:42
PriceChildSeveas was having bit problems with it yday01:42
HobbseeFujitsu: just think, you're reducing future breakage by this repo.  just do it01:42
FujitsuI suppose I will.01:43
Hobbseepalski: fixed, thanks!  got another one?01:43
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palskiHobbsee: I have, but they all have the same problems :) so I'll fix those later today01:44
Hobbseepalski: i can fix some of them, if you want01:45
UbugtuNew bug: #72171 in Ubuntu "doesn't find an IP adress with dhcp at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217101:47
palskiHobbsee: you really don't have to but bug #49640, I have changed emails with upstream author but he said he is out of the country and cannot make new builds for a while01:48
UbugtuMalone bug 49640 in xchat-systray "xchat-xsys crash" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4964001:48
Hobbsee!info xchat-systray edgy01:48
ubotuxchat-systray: xchat systray notification icon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.5-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 240 kB01:48
Hobbseepalski: again, the debian/changelog description isnt very descriptive01:49
Hobbseepalski: think of merging about 10 changes, you dont wan tto have to look up all the bug numbers01:49
palskiHobbsee: as I said, it has same problems as the first one :)01:50
Hobbseepalski: ahh, right01:50
Hobbseeoh right, yeah, i see01:50
Hobbseei thought that as there were two, teh second was fixed01:50
Hobbseepalski: that one needs a merge, anyway01:52
PriceChildRight I need to go to lectures :(01:53
HobbseePriceChild: have fun!01:53
PriceChildHobbsee I'll probably try xvidcap again tonight01:53
HobbseePriceChild: :)01:53
PriceChildfun..... this is two hours of unbearable hell :(01:54
PriceChildfriday afternoon.... :(01:54
palskiHobbsee: what do you mean by merge?01:54
Hobbseepalski: debian has a later version - add their changes, and ours, and merge them in together01:55
=== Hobbsee does tha tnow
UbugtuNew bug: #72172 in gnome-desktop (main) "whishlist: support for recently used applications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217201:55
palskiOh, maybe that's fixed in later version01:55
Hobbseedoesnt seem to be01:56
Hobbseeseems that the maintainer has changed01:56
Hobbseeand a watch file was added01:57
Hobbseepalski: fixing another bug there too :)02:02
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Hobbseepalski: if you've got time, can you check if https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xchat-systray/+bug/54363 occurs?02:03
UbugtuMalone bug 54363 in xchat-systray "xchat-systray on Edgy don't flesh" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 02:03
palskiHobbsee: I can check that later today, when I get back to home02:05
Hobbseepalski: cool.  i've fixed the other two, though02:06
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palskiyou're fast :)02:09
Hobbseepalski: :)02:11
Hobbseepalski: i should be studying, that's why02:11
Hobbseepalski: mind you, it's quick to fix easy things.  which i can do :)02:11
Hobbseepalski: got other stuff to fix?02:13
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palskiHobbsee: I don't want to bother you anymore, so I'll fix them my self02:14
Hobbseepalski: okay02:14
palskibut again, thank you! :)02:15
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Hobbseehey secretlondon!02:19
Hobbseesecretlondon: i uploaded your fix :)02:19
Hobbseesecretlondon: credited you in the changelog, too :)02:19
secretlondonCOOL :)02:19
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Hobbseesecretlondon: got more stuff for fixing?02:21
Hobbseesecretlondon: i've closed about 4 bugs today, maybe more :)02:22
secretlondonHobbsee: probably ;)02:22
secretlondonI have another patch somewhere *checks*02:22
Hobbseesecretlondon: i checked your bug for cinepaint - did anything happen with that?02:22
Hobbseesecretlondon: the new version will sync into edgy, i saw that much02:23
secretlondonHobbsee: not unless you did it02:23
Hobbseeoh right.  it's still sitting waiting for teh mess that is SRU02:23
Hobbseeohhhh...yes, that's right.  it needed a weird merge.02:24
Hobbseebecause the version number was wrong02:24
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secretlondonyep - cos someone updated the debian bit02:24
secretlondontheres a mono unmet deps bug somewhere02:25
Hobbseefor feisty.  and i'm expecting mono to be merged anyway02:25
Hobbseesecretlondon: in which case, they'll fix it then02:25
secretlondonI have a patch on jigdo-lite but it probably needs explaining and is less clear-cut a bug02:27
secretlondonbasically jigdo refers to the distro as "Debian" so I changed to Ubuntu and replaced the enclosed list of debian mirrors with ubuntu mirrors02:28
secretlondonbug #6695402:28
UbugtuMalone bug 66954 in jigdo "Jigdo-lite recognises Ubuntu as Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6695402:28
Hobbseecool :)02:28
secretlondonbug #6474302:28
UbugtuMalone bug 64743 in jigdo "Jigdo-lite contains list of Debian, rather than Ubuntu, mirrors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6474302:28
secretlondonthe problem is that ubuntu presents itself as debian - there is no way of differentiating02:29
secretlondonthe patch fixes both02:29
secretlondonso i'm replacing blanket recognition as debian with ubuntu - presuming that ubuntu users will more likely be dling ubuntu02:30
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Hobbseesecretlondon: way cool.  why not send it to debian then?02:30
secretlondonhobbsee: they won't want it - its for us02:30
Hobbseesecretlondon: oh right.  ohhh...i thought you'd made a way for the;m to differentiate02:31
secretlondondebian's jigdo should default to the distro being debian, and ubuntu's to ubuntu02:31
secretlondonHobbsee: no - i wish02:31
secretlondonI think we do actually call ourselves debian when we create the files to download too02:32
secretlondonso its a bit of a hack really02:32
Hobbseesecretlondon: out of curiousity, why didnt you mark one bug as a dupe of the other?02:37
Hobbseeand you filed them both...02:37
secretlondonI submitted them both02:37
secretlondonI saw them as separate things to fix02:38
=== Hobbsee just duped one of htem
=== Hobbsee undupes them
secretlondonfine :)02:38
Hobbseeoh right, i see02:38
secretlondonI don't mind - i was being conservative02:38
Hobbseesecretlondon: you use this program a lot, dont you :P02:39
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secretlondonHobbsee: I was - and kept finding problems so as a good girl I bug reported them..02:39
Hobbseesecretlondon: hehe.  did you fix them too?  :)02:40
secretlondonHobbsee: only 2 of them02:40
=== Hobbsee wonders about rejecting https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/jigdo/+bug/38539 due to age
UbugtuMalone bug 38539 in jigdo "Breezy .jigdo file and .template out of date" [Medium,Unconfirmed] 02:40
UbugtuNew bug: #72173 in firefox (main) "crash when refreshing Gmail inbox (I *think*)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217302:41
secretlondonHobbsee: thats clearly not relevant now02:41
Hobbseesecretlondon: yes, but we do support breezy still.  feel free to reject it, if you want02:41
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secretlondonHobbsee: but I suspect we no longer have a breezy jigdo image for download02:42
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Hobbseesecretlondon: good point02:43
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UbugtuNew bug: #72174 in xserver-xorg-video-trident (main) "using up/down/right/left arrow in insert (i) mode wont works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217402:46
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secretlondonI can't actually find a non dvd image on cdimage.ubuntulinux.org02:49
Hobbseegood, cos i rejected it :P02:49
Hobbseeooh, new kvpnc02:49
UbugtuNew bug: #72175 in vim (main) "I cant use up/down/right/left arrow key" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217502:50
secretlondonreleases.u.c has dapper and edgy, and old-releases.u.c has warty and hoary ;)02:51
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Hobbseesecretlondon: cool :)02:52
Hobbseebut no breezy02:52
secretlondonindeed - its in the middle02:52
Hobbseeoh well :)02:52
secretlondonfor old-releases we seem to only have bittorrent02:53
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secretlondonwarty does provide a jigdo - but only 1 of the two files so I can tell thats broken straight away..02:54
Hobbseegrep -r foo *02:54
Hobbseeworks wonders :)02:54
UbugtuNew bug: #69419 in gdm (main) "Gdm don't save session settings" [Medium,Rejected]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6941902:55
=== secretlondon reports the missing brezzy bug
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UbugtuNew bug: #72176 in dbus (main) "Session bus does not search for his service files in all the defined places" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217603:05
UbugtuNew bug: #72179 in Ubuntu "Between releases.ubuntu.com and old-releases.ubuntu.com we've lost Breezy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7217903:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #72182 in urwid (universe) "__future__ imports must occur at the beginning of the file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218203:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #72181 in Ubuntu "old-releases.ubuntu.com- Warty is provided with only 1 of the 2 jigdo files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218103:21
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UbugtuNew bug: #72183 in sound-juicer (main) "crash without cd inserted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218303:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #72184 in gftp (main) "gftp should be removed from ubuntu main and filezilla ftp client could be in the main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218403:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #72185 in Ubuntu "Poor graphics performance when Laptop's powered" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218504:00
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UbugtuNew bug: #72186 in Ubuntu "Laptop ac cpu 100%" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218604:15
UbugtuNew bug: #72187 in id3lib3.8.3 (main) "Request backport of id3lib 3.8.3-6 to feisty and dapper" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218704:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #72189 in d4x (universe) "d4x crashes on Ubuntu 6.10" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218904:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72188 in darcs (universe) "darcs manual is not installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7218804:36
UbugtuNew bug: #71851 in xdrawchem (universe) "the program was closed unexpectedly" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7185104:41
UbugtuNew bug: #72190 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Unable to send mails with inline images in TB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219004:41
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UbugtuNew bug: #72192 in boinc (universe) "No graphics in 5.4.11" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219204:50
UbugtuNew bug: #72191 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "khubd bug on AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219104:51
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UbugtuNew bug: #72193 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flash 9 does not install (and upgrade fails) in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219304:55
secretlondonfeisty bug!04:55
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PriceChildscramble! :P05:00
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typecasti investigated bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/jde/+bug/66012/ and found, that it is not a jde bug, but a ede bug05:08
UbugtuMalone bug 66012 in jde "dpkg error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 05:08
typecastwhat shall i do now?05:09
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Seveastypecast, click on 'jde (Ubutu)' and change it to ede05:09
typecastSeveas: there doesn't seem to be an ede package on malone05:10
typecastthe choose function doesn't find one05:10
UbugtuNew bug: #72195 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "Ubuntu Edgy don't power off after shutdown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219505:10
Seveastypecast, the source package is cedet (you can find it with apt-cache show ede or apt-cache showsrc ede)05:11
typecastso i'll set it to cedet :)05:12
UbugtuNew bug: #72196 in qt4-x11 (main) "Qt Designer crashes when setting icon for an action from resource" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219605:20
UbugtuNew bug: #72197 in darcs (universe) "libghc6-hdbc-missingh-dev installation/removal fails" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219705:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #72199 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (main) "Laptop Ac 100%cpu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219905:30
UbugtuNew bug: #72200 in gnome-applets (main) "tcdrain() on socket yields EFAULT (expected EINVAL/ENOTTY)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220005:30
UbugtuNew bug: #72201 in gaphor (universe) "AssertionError with -d option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220105:30
UbugtuNew bug: #72198 in kdebase (main) "/etc/init.d/kdm should call usplash with the "start" parameter not "stop"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219805:35
typecasti want to change the description of a bug-report so that it reflects the real problem05:36
typecast1.) is this a good idea?05:36
secretlondonif they give a rubbish title I change to say what the actual problem was05:37
typecastshall the new description contain the old one like "new description (was: old description)?05:37
secretlondonyou can do05:37
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typecastwhat to do with bugs like https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/emacs-snapshot/+bug/65522 ?05:41
UbugtuMalone bug 65522 in emacs-snapshot "feature request: backporting current edgy snapshot to dapper-backports" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 05:41
secretlondonthere is a procedure for requesting backports05:42
secretlondonIt'll be on the wiki somewhere - i'm not sure where05:42
typecastok. i'll look for it05:42
typecastshall i respond to him with that link and reject the bug-report?05:43
secretlondontypecast: no don't reject it - keep it open05:43
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UbugtuNew bug: #72202 in rt2500 (universe) "rt2500 does not fully work in dapper nor edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220205:50
UbugtuNew bug: #72203 in firefox (main) "Strange die" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220305:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #72204 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220405:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72205 in nautilus (main) "Wrong desktop icon location" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220505:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72206 in Ubuntu "Initial Boot Hangs - IBM eserver xSeries 300" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220605:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72207 in desktop-effects (universe) "window decorator crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220705:55
UbugtuNew bug: #71959 in kdelibs (main) "When moving two sets of files in Konqueror the taskbar says "kio_uiserver" rather then "...%... (Moving)"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7195905:56
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UbugtuNew bug: #72208 in ncpfs (universe) "No manual pages for ncplogin and ncplogout in package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220806:00
UbugtuNew bug: #72209 in totem (main) "wrong size after showing the playlist" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7220906:00
UbugtuNew bug: #71658 in xchat (universe) "Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7165806:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #71554 in resolvconf (universe) "resolv.conf has wrong entry" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7155406:10
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UbugtuNew bug: #72210 in rhythmbox (main) "wishlist: should ship -dev and plugins packages for rb" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221006:16
UbugtuNew bug: #72211 in eclipse (universe) "Eclipse in Edgy, dependency problems" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221106:16
UbugtuNew bug: #72212 in Ubuntu "Developers don't get enough thanks" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221206:26
UbugtuNew bug: #72213 in Ubuntu ""Restore grub" option on the Live CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221306:26
jonh_wendellwhat a nice bug!06:27
UbugtuNew bug: #72214 in e2fsprogs (main) "debugfs:  lsdel results in Segmentation Fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221406:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72215 in kdelibs (main) "KDE Print System Broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221506:31
UbugtuNew bug: #72216 in usplash (main) "Usplash sometimes hangs during shutdown/reboot and displays strange characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221606:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72217 in gnomebaker (universe) "Missing "verify data after burning" functionality." [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221706:36
UbugtuNew bug: #72218 in sound-juicer (main) "track name with a question mark in it causes a seg-fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221806:46
secretlondonAny motu want to make bug #66452 go away? I think it's fixed in debian06:47
UbugtuMalone bug 66452 in gaphor "Dependancy problems" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6645206:47
PriceChildsecretlondon: #ubuntuforums-motu06:51
PriceChildjoin that and ask :)06:52
secretlondonPriceChild: I know, but there are motu in here too06:52
PriceChildyou'll get better reply int here though :)06:53
secretlondonI dunno - I reckon motu in a bug fixing mood may be here06:53
secretlondonnormally in #motu I get told how to fix it and I don't really have the perms (or experience) to do much06:54
UbugtuNew bug: #72219 in tomboy (main) "Tomboy does not install in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7221906:55
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UbugtuNew bug: #72220 in python-biopython (universe) "python-biopython 1.41-2.1 hasn't built for AMD64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222007:15
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UbugtuNew bug: #72221 in firefox (main) "Crash when viewing Flash (?) demo on Legoshop.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222107:40
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UbugtuNew bug: #72222 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "Dependency on ecj-bootstrap" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222207:50
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UbugtuNew bug: #69043 in Debian (universe) "Tomcat 5.5 Examples will not run." [Unknown,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6904308:16
UbugtuNew bug: #72223 in firefox (main) "Crash on start after install adblock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222308:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #72085 in cpio (main) "wrong return status codes" [Undecided,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7208508:45
UbugtuNew bug: #72226 in libqalculate (universe) "All translations from the source not included" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222608:50
UbugtuNew bug: #72225 in blender (universe) "Blender segfaults after opening a file." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222508:51
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secretlondoni would hope that people who are advanced enough to be using pre-alpha feisty would be advanced enough to make a proper bug report08:57
ubotuAnnouncement from my owner (Seveas): ubuntusecurity08:59
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UbugtuNew bug: #72227 in bzr (main) "bzr fails when run within certain Python code trees" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222709:05
UbugtuNew bug: #72228 in audacity (universe) "All UI text missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222809:05
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UbugtuNew bug: #72229 in fast-user-switch-applet (universe) "Switching users resets resolution to unsupported mode" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7222909:15
UbugtuNew bug: #71465 in acpid (main) "Multiple ACPI related issues after upgrade Dapper > Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7146509:35
UbugtuNew bug: #72231 in xorg (main) "DPMS Backlight will not stay off in xorg, if any ACPI event comes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223109:35
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UbugtuNew bug: #72234 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Thinkpad won't go to sleep if lid is closed and the AC adapter is unplugged" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223409:55
UbugtuNew bug: #72233 in kde-guidance (main) "Unable to remove without making displayconfig-restore unuseable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223310:01
UbugtuNew bug: #72235 in apport (main) "KeyError with -d option" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223510:01
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UbugtuNew bug: #72236 in baobab (universe) "No French help file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223610:06
UbugtuNew bug: #71368 in xorg-server (main) "Laptop backlight stays always on" [Unknown,Unknown]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7136810:11
UbugtuNew bug: #72238 in bluez-utils (main) "hcid crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223810:11
UbugtuNew bug: #72239 in Ubuntu "Laptop only suspends once between reboots" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7223910:11
UbugtuNew bug: #69003 in firefox (main) "Firefox DoS/memory corruption flaw in javascript. Bugtraq ID 19488" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6900310:16
UbugtuNew bug: #72240 in gok (main) "gok window not always floating " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224010:16
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UbugtuNew bug: #72242 in hplip (main) "hp-toolbox and hp-setup fail with segmentation fault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224210:30
UbugtuNew bug: #72241 in easytag (universe) "EasyTAG crashes when accessing FreeDB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224110:35
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carthikHi all, what updates/upgrades if any would you like to http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats10:37
carthikAny feedback would be welcome and immediately useful :)10:37
Hobbseehey carthik10:38
carthikhey Hobbsee : how are things?10:39
UbugtuNew bug: #72243 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "/var/crash/_usr_lib_mozilla-thunderbird_mozilla-thunderbird-bin.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224310:40
secretlondonhi hobbsee10:40
carthikDiogo, who I presume works on Launchpad says he can whip me up an xml file with the bug data I need. Now all I need to know is what to ask him for,  besides what is already plotted.10:40
carthikHobbsee, ^^10:41
Hobbseecarthik: good, i tried to turn up to work, but found they'd already replaced me with someone else, without telling me about it. grr10:41
Hobbseehey secretlondon!10:41
secretlondonHobbsee: yes I am still here, but not for very much longer..10:42
Hobbseethat's gotta be the most useless bug ever10:42
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secretlondonHobbsee: we've had some bugs today which basically said "feisty crashed", no trace, no nothing10:45
Hobbseesecretlondon: yay.10:45
mc44damn that fiesty10:45
UbugtuNew bug: #72244 in Ubuntu "[Feisty]  Fonts in X hate me" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224410:45
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mc44Hobbsee: I dont think its broken enough yet10:45
Hobbseemc44: yeah, well.10:45
Hobbseemc44: just wait till next week10:45
Hobbseeouch @ that font stuff10:45
mc44Hobbsee: Im sure you can fix that though10:45
Hobbseemc44: heh.  or just break more10:47
Hobbseecarthik: graph of confirmed, and graph of needsinfo bugs would also be cool10:47
mc44Hobbsee: yeah thats what I meant :)10:47
mc44carthik: and a pony graoh10:48
Hobbseehehe - i like the drop in the 24 hour ones.  that must be from the sync requests ro something10:49
secretlondonamazingly I've been downloading a feisty pbuilder for almost as long as Hobbsee has been away10:51
Hobbseesecretlondon: :)10:52
carthikHobbsee, got it.10:52
Hobbseecarthik: :)10:52
carthikHobbsee, is there a "kubuntu-*" team that is subscribed/assigned all kubuntu* bugs?10:53
carthiklike the desktop-bugs team for GNOME?10:53
Hobbseecarthik: kubuntu-team10:53
carthikHobbsee, cool. Thank you.10:54
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UbugtuNew bug: #72245 in matchbox-panel (universe) "application crash " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224511:05
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crimsunbug 7219311:05
UbugtuMalone bug 72193 in flashplugin-nonfree "flash 9 does not install (and upgrade fails) in feisty" [Medium,Fix committed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7219311:05
UbugtuNew bug: #72011 in adonthell-data (universe) "adonthell-data: Please review/upload this merged package." [Wishlist,Fix released]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7201111:06
UbugtuNew bug: #72246 in zinf (universe) "Zinf fails to start on Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224611:06
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UbugtuNew bug: #72247 in gnome-applets (main) "gswitchit crash / kernel BUG" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224711:20
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UbugtuNew bug: #72249 in unattended-upgrades (main) "some error occured overnight" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7224911:30
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UbugtuNew bug: #72250 in apport (main) "After 'filing a bug' for a program that ran as root, apport-gtk crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7225011:35
UbugtuNew bug: #72251 in contact-lookup-applet (main) "Please sync contact-lookup-applet (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7225111:35
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