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| sadleder | hi all, maybe not especially related to upstart, but does anyone know a preferred way to temporarily disable shutdown of a system | 11:04 |
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| sadleder | i mean a scenario in which a system is administered remotely, but has local users | 11:05 |
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| root____ | Hello all, I searched all over and im probably just plain stupid. I dont have an implentetion in fron of me but trying to figure out how upstart gets the default run level.. should i still use inittab? | 01:32 |
| root____ | nm i figured it out ithink.. just have to get used to events.. if i still want runleves ill do a event on startup and define runlevels in that and other events based on that.. take care and an ty | 01:37 |
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| cryptom | hi all, is there an "automated way" to improve startup time with upstart? I've upgraded from dapper to edgy and seem to have much longer boot times. | 03:00 |
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| Seveas | cryptom, improving startup time isn't a goal of upstart | 05:12 |
| psibox | do you know how i can find out the order in which the startups have been called ? | 05:13 |
| psibox | i have a problem that an nfs-mounted fs does not appear in /etc/mtab | 05:13 |
| psibox | then updatedb does not detect that it's NFS and indexes 2TB. from all clients. | 05:14 |
| cryptom | Seveas, oh, really, then I must have misunderstood something I read on the net (or mixed it up with something else). I just thought that a new startup system could only be faster (starting services in parallel, not serial) | 05:51 |
| cryptom | than the old-fashioned sysvinit | 05:52 |
| Seveas | cryptom, a side effect of a fully upstart-ized init system willprobably a significant improvement in startup time | 05:52 |
| Seveas | however, it is not a goal | 05:52 |
| Seveas | and in ubuntu edgy, upstart is not used to its full potential, the only startup time improvements come from the dash-as-/bin/sh change | 05:53 |
| cryptom | Seveas, I understand that, I think the goal is to still have control once the services are started | 05:53 |
| cryptom | and not just "fire and forget" | 05:53 |
| cryptom | Seveas, dash-as-/bin/sh ? | 05:54 |
| maro | cryptom: /bin/sh -> /bin/dash | 05:54 |
| Seveas | cryptom, the primary goal was to get rid of all horrible race conditions in init | 05:54 |
| maro | (instead of bash) | 05:54 |
| Seveas | the goal now seems to be "to take over the world" | 05:54 |
| maro | Seveas: no scm action in the past 2 weeks though, seems to have stalled :) | 05:55 |
| cryptom | ;-) | 05:55 |
| Seveas | maro, LOL | 05:55 |
| Seveas | they've been very busy designing th beast | 05:55 |
| Seveas | lots of goodness is coming up | 05:55 |
| cryptom | Seveas, ok, thanks for the clarification | 05:59 |
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| psibox | how can i turn on some kind of debug info for upstart ? | 06:21 |
| psibox | is there anything in place ? | 06:21 |
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| Keybuk | psibox: boot with --debug as a kernel option | 06:36 |
| psibox | thanks, will try that. | 06:37 |
| psibox | after boot i'm missing NFS filesystems in /etc/mtab. /proc/mounts is ok, fs is mounted, but /etc/mtab ist wrong. | 06:38 |
| Keybuk | oh, that's just a usual ubuntu bug | 07:23 |
| psibox | well, that's pretty bad. | 07:27 |
| psibox | is there a fix ? | 07:27 |
| psibox | what's causing this ? | 07:27 |
| maro | Keybuk: busybox claims /etc/mtab is obsolete and should be a symlink to /proc/mounts on "modern distros" - do you know why that isn't the case on ubuntu? | 07:47 |
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| psibox | maro: interesting. i read somewhere (can't find it right now) that linking /etc/mtab to /proc/mounts was a bad idea. unfortunately the poster didn't explain why | 07:54 |
| Seveas | that would make /etc/mtab unusable before /proc is mounted. Not sure if that matters though | 08:05 |
| Keybuk | there are mount options in /etc/mtab that do not appear in /proc/mounts | 08:06 |
| psibox | like 'noquota'. this breaks (kind of) quota. | 08:30 |
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| obenbohne | hi Seveas! | 08:39 |
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| obenbohne | hi Seveas | 10:41 |
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| Keybuk | wasabi: around? | 12:14 |
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