[12:23] <Riddell> toma: what's that kipi mailing list again?
[12:24] <toma> Riddell: kde-imaging
[12:24] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell 
[12:25] <Riddell> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-imaging/2006-October/003764.html  that's promising
[12:25] <imbrandon> seele: hahahah howso ?
[12:26] <toma> Riddell: yep
[12:26] <Riddell> afternoon Hobbsee 
[12:27] <Riddell> so, main inclusion reports needed for graphics magick and libpqxx
[12:27] <imbrandon> heya Riddell 
[12:28] <Riddell> ah hah, a volunteer :)
[12:28] <toma> Riddell: if you need that change soon, you better write a follow up, there is a lot of activity now on kipi
[12:28] <imbrandon> Riddell: who me ? hehe
[12:29] <Riddell> toma: according to that reply no change is needed on their side, we just need to change the package to depend on graphicsmagick
[12:29] <Riddell> which needs a main inclusion report
[12:29] <Hobbsee> i think imbrandon's volunteering
[12:29] <Riddell> I think so too
[12:29] <toma> Riddell: okay
[12:29] <imbrandon> hahah i love you guys , lol
[12:29] <imbrandon> let me wake up a minute and yea i'll do them, tell me what needs it and why
[12:30] <Riddell> we love you too!
[12:30] <imbrandon> lol
[12:30] <Riddell> graphicsmagick -> needed by krita and libkipi, to replace imagemagick in main
[12:30] <imbrandon> k
[12:30] <Riddell> libpqxx needed by kexi for postgres support
[12:30] <imbrandon> k
[12:31] <imbrandon> Riddell: jono happen to be in your vinicty ? he pinged me while i was asleep
[12:31] <imbrandon> ooooooooooooouch
[12:31] <Riddell> imbrandon: he's not in this room
[12:32] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I know what that feels like, I'm sitting under the air conditioning
[12:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: fun.  mum had the heater on here last night. crazy
[12:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: why are you under aircon anyway?  isnt it winter?
[12:32] <imbrandon> ahh okies, well if you run into him by chance tell him i be awake now :)
[12:32] <Riddell> in san francisco they don't know the meaning of "winter"
[12:33] <imbrandon> hahahah how true
[12:34] <seele> imbrandon: i was listening to NPR and they had this big story on how kansas city is on a murder spree
[12:35] <imbrandon> ahh , we must not have that on the local news, but i dont doubt it
[12:35] <seele> imbrandon: youre roughing in on my territory, everyone knows DC and Baltimore are the most violent cities in the US :P
[12:35] <seele> haha
[12:35] <seele> "seems like every day to me"
[12:35] <imbrandon> downtown isnt a great place to be most of the time
[12:35] <imbrandon> hahaha 
[12:35] <imbrandon> yup
[12:36] <seele> some hokey mid-west town moving in on my shit
[12:36] <seele> lol
[12:36] <seele> nah, KC is a lot cooler now that i know it has big-city violence
[12:36] <imbrandon> lol , you know KC is the meth manufacture capitol of the US
[12:36] <seele> dude, the mid-west is a meth-basket
[12:36] <imbrandon> so murdur kinda go's with that
[12:36] <imbrandon> gah
[12:37] <seele> y'all dont have anything else to do but run around high all the time
[12:37] <imbrandon> HAHAHAHA
[12:37] <Riddell> uh oh, seele's started saying "y'all", she's turning into a red neck
[12:37] <seele> haha, at least i dont say y'inz like im supposed to :P
[12:37] <imbrandon> lol
[12:38] <seele> hoooow yinz doooin?
[12:38] <imbrandon> lol yea where she lives now its yuinz
[12:38] <seele> nah, DC isnt a yinzer city
[12:38] <seele> but i AM from Pittsburgh (go Steelers!) ;P
[12:38] <imbrandon> your from "the south" orig though right? sc or something ?
[12:38] <imbrandon> ahh thats right
[12:38] <seele> omg no
[12:39] <imbrandon> LOL
[12:39] <seele> i am NOT a southern girl
[12:39] <seele> ill beat you up
[12:39] <imbrandon> hahah i dont doubt it , ;)
[12:39] <seele> ill get a big steel bar with PITTSBURGH bolted on it and maime you
[12:39] <seele> bah, the SOUTH?  do i SOUND like im from the south?
[12:40] <crimsun> ugh, y'inz.
[12:40] <crimsun> and no, there ain't nuthin' wrong with sayin' y'all
[12:40] <seele> yinz is better than yous
[12:40] <imbrandon> seele: hah nah, i just forgot what i read on your blog about page ( many many months ago and my memory sucks )
[12:40] <imbrandon> :)
[12:40] <seele> hehe
[12:40] <imbrandon> yous is boston
[12:40] <imbrandon> ish
[12:40] <crimsun> yous is retardo.
[12:41] <imbrandon> lol
[12:41] <seele> new yourkish too if you talk to any italians
[12:41] <seele> 'course i think boston got it from the italians anyway
[12:41] <imbrandon> that guy on the ubuntuos podcast uses yous ( and windows ) go figure :)
[12:41] <seele> yeah, like i said, YINZ is much better ;P
[12:42] <imbrandon> hah /me sticks with his y'all
[12:42] <imbrandon> and the plural "all y'all"
[12:42] <imbrandon> :)
[12:42] <seele> hahaha
[12:43] <seele> hrm, anyone in here play warcraft?
[12:43] <seele> i guess if i say leroy jenkins, no one knows what im talking about?
[12:43] <imbrandon> speaking of , no yellow in the wardrobe with the black for the stealers ? hehe
[12:43] <seele> or heeeeeeey you guuuuuuys
[12:43] <seele> nah, black is enough
[12:43] <imbrandon> seele: i play warcraft, but not WoW ( anymore )
[12:43] <seele> oh no, you were one of 'those' people?  
[12:44] <seele> the QUITTERS?
[12:44] <imbrandon> haha no , i just stuck to UO
[12:44] <seele> couldnt handle it?  Warcraft was too much?  TOO ADDICTIVE?
[12:44] <imbrandon> ( the original MMORPG )
[12:44] <seele> bah, that cant even compare
[12:44] <seele> dude, there were muds and moos around long before UO
[12:44] <seele> they werent as pretty, but neither is UO compared to wow ;P
[12:45] <imbrandon> yea but i spent many many years helping creat a UO server emulator(s) sooo i'm kinda attached, its what got me started in programing 
[12:45] <imbrandon> :)
[12:45] <seele> aah
[12:45] <imbrandon> create*
[12:45] <seele> have you ever played (or logged in, since game is not implied) second life?
[12:46] <imbrandon> ahh yea , a while back
[12:46] <imbrandon> never really got hooked though 
[12:46] <imbrandon> but i always keep telling myself to try it some more
[12:46] <imbrandon> AoS is pretty nice too
[12:46] <seele> yeah
[12:47] <imbrandon> err not AoS , ummm AC
[12:47] <seele> my problem with second life is the controls and how bad the rendering engine is
[12:47] <imbrandon> damn acronyms
[12:47] <seele> why the hel wouldnt they just use FPS controls and the Q3 engine?
[12:47] <Hobbsee> hey seele!
[12:47] <seele> hihi Hobbsee!
[12:48] <imbrandon> moins Hobbsee 
[12:49] <imbrandon> seele: exactly
[12:49] <imbrandon> ( on the 3d engine )
[12:49] <Hobbsee> oh dear.  this redneck behaviour seems to be spreading?
[12:50] <imbrandon> man i should have kept my mouth shut at UDS :) ( thats impossible for me though )
[12:51] <seele> lol
[12:52] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:52] <seele> redneck behaviour?
[12:52] <seele> again with the south stuff
[12:52] <seele> IM FROM THE NORTH
[12:52] <seele> WE WON WON THE WAR
[12:52] <Hobbsee> being high all the time, etc
[12:52] <seele> WE ABOLISHED SLAVERY
[12:52] <seele> WE ARE DEMOCRATIC
[12:52] <imbrandon> seele: hahah well i'm technicly from a northern state , but we're still rednecks ( plus livinging in Nashville TN for some years dident help much )
[12:53] <seele> what northern state is that?
[12:53] <imbrandon> missouri
[12:53] <imbrandon> missery
[12:53] <seele> hrm.. well thats definitely better than the south, hehe
[12:53] <seele> lol
[12:53] <imbrandon> :)
[12:56] <imbrandon> hrm, what to eat for dinner tonight
[12:56] <imbrandon> hahaha i just read the backlog, seele you dident like KC untill there was murder ? hahahaha
[12:57] <seele> haha
[01:11] <nixternal> since when is KC south?
[01:11] <nixternal> KC isn't south, but that doesn't throw out the fact that imbrandon is a redneck
[01:11] <nixternal> actually, he is more of a hillbilly than a redneck
[01:12] <nixternal> oh wait, he can't be a hillbilly, KC is flat, no hills
[01:17] <pygi> hey Riddell 
[01:17] <pinheiro> hey guys
[01:17] <pygi> you around?
[01:18] <pinheiro> tomorrow is my wedding :)
[01:18] <Hobbsee> pinheiro: yay :)
[01:18] <Hobbsee> pygi: he was, not sure about now
[01:18] <pygi> Hobbsee: oki, wanted to say some good news, hehe ^_^
[01:18] <Hobbsee> Riddell: may have to have his name mentioned first.  i seem to remember irssi is weird about that
[01:19] <imbrandon> heya nuno
[01:20] <pinheiro> heya
[01:22] <seele> pinheiro: congratulations!
[01:23] <pinheiro> thank's seele
[01:23] <pinheiro> :) im very hapy
[01:23] <seele> nixternal: kansas is south.. what are you talking about
[01:31] <imbrandon> hehe
[01:46] <fdoving> nite.
[01:47] <toma> nite
[02:37] <pygi> hello jdong 
[02:37] <jdong> greetings
[02:37] <pygi> jdong: very nice news ^_^
[02:38] <jdong> pygi: I know, I saved a bunch on my car insurance too
[02:38] <pygi> jdong: after etch is out, k3b switches to cdrskin by default in Debian
[02:38] <pygi> jdong: I didn't knew that =)
[02:38] <jdong> oh yeah that too :D
[02:38] <pygi> jdong: :P
[02:39] <jdong> and wow I managed to get online with a WM5 smartphone over bluetooth
[02:40] <jdong> and I didn't have to sell my soul :D
[02:40] <pygi> congrats ^_^
[02:40] <jdong> to bad it brings back nightmares of dialup
[02:40] <pygi> I managed (for the first time ever :P) to get my entire math exam solved :P
[02:40] <pygi> and actually everything was right :)
[02:47] <pygi> jdong: o yes, new brasero ... can you guess some of the features? :)
[02:47] <jdong> hehe
[02:48] <jdong> I've skimmed planet.u.c enough to figure that out :D
[02:48] <pygi> jdong: I mean the brasero that isn't out yet as in still in developnebt ^)^
[02:48] <pygi> development :)
[02:48] <pygi> jdong: it should actually support dvd video for the first time in a gnome burning app :)
[02:51] <jdong> that's great news
[02:51] <jdong> anyone use bluetooth in gnome?
[02:57] <jdong> pygi: how confident are you in your defrag patches?
[02:57] <jdong> ack
[02:57] <jdong> stupid autocomplete
[02:57] <pygi> jdong: defrag patches? explain ^_^
[02:57] <pygi> right :)
[02:57] <jdong> not for you :D
[02:57] <pygi> I got it :P
[02:57] <jdong> but my irc client seems to disagree :D
[02:57] <jdong> I'm referring to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/feisty-changes/2006-November/001029.html
[02:58] <jdong> which advertises ext3 support
[02:58] <jdong> :d
[02:58] <pygi> jdong: right
[02:59] <pygi> jdong: why would you need a defrag? :P
[03:01] <jdong> pygi: actually, because of torents
[03:02] <jdong> pygi: cp operations on these torrents go at around 2MB/s
[03:02] <pygi> ah
[03:02] <jdong> pygi: while my disk does around 50MB/s with dd on the block device
[03:02] <jdong> so clearly they are reading back significantly slower
[03:03] <jdong> and filefrags claims around 2500 fragments on a 250MB file
[03:03] <jdong> pygi: it's gotten to the point where I wrote pyfragtools (on launchpad)
[03:03] <jdong> which is basically a script that keeps on making new copies of the file until fragmentation drops below a threshold
[03:03] <jdong> it works beautifully
[03:03] <pygi> nice
[03:04] <jdong> but a ext3-aware defragger should be able to do an even better job
[03:04] <jdong> (not to mention not need to fork 100,000 copies of filefrags)
[03:06] <nixternal> kansas isn't south, texas is south
[03:06] <nixternal> thats like saying where i lived in md was south ;)
[03:06] <pygi> jdong: right :P
[03:07] <pygi> jdong: let's talk something burning related now :P
[03:07] <jdong> pygi: oh but it is :)
[03:07] <jdong> pygi: how am I supposed to burn my xvids to a 16x dvd if I can only read them back at 2MB/s? :D
[03:07] <pygi> jdong: perhaps, but I don't have a clue about that ^_^
[03:07] <pygi> jdong: buffer :P
[03:07] <pygi> lol
[03:07] <jdong> lol
[03:08] <jdong> a huge buffer :D
[03:08] <jdong> Analyze finished. 3.9 % fragmentation (97 files), 43.3 average frags/MB
[03:08] <jdong> as I said, looks pretty nightmarish
[03:20] <seele> is there a media page that has all the ubuntu project logos?
[03:24] <seele> ah hah, found it
[03:30] <Riddell> kdebase built!
[03:31] <Riddell> I'm a genius, only took me five shots
[03:31] <seele> lol
[03:31] <seele> how many shots does it take us normal people?
[03:32] <Riddell> have a shot if you want, plenty more to merge here http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html :)
[03:35] <jdong> Riddell: aww, no more free smoothies in the Googleplex? :D
[03:35] <Riddell> if there are, they won't let us in to get them
[03:38] <seele> mmm.. a smoothie would be good with this peanutbutter toast
[03:40] <seele> so what topic sounds best for a friday night book?  gothic fantasy, cyberpunk fiction, or russian literature?
[03:40] <crimsun> all the above
[03:40] <crimsun> that's of course the lit major in me speaking.
[03:40] <seele> i couldnt possibly read all of that tonight
[05:15] <imbrandon> re
[05:16] <imbrandon> seele: gothic fantasy :)
[05:18] <Mez> imbrandon, haha :D
[05:18] <Mez> imbrandon, come to my casino sometime ;)
[05:18] <imbrandon> heya Mez 
[05:18] <imbrandon> will you let me win?
[05:19] <Mez> imbrandon, maybe - depends on if I know who you are
[05:19] <imbrandon> actualy i dident go to gamble, my brother took me out to "celebrate" my divorce, and tried to cheer me up
[05:19] <imbrandon> hehe
[05:19] <Mez> imbrandon, where you based? 
[05:19] <imbrandon> but i still lost :)
[05:19] <imbrandon> kansas city 
[05:20] <imbrandon> you?
[05:20] <Mez> ah, nowhere near birmingham england then
[05:20] <imbrandon> you work in a casino ?
[05:20] <imbrandon> ahh, nope, i hope to visit the UK sometime soonish
[05:20] <imbrandon> i'll try to stop in when i do
[05:21] <imbrandon> soonish == next year or so
[05:21] <Mez> imbrandon, yeah - I work in a casino in birmingham, england
[05:21] <imbrandon> cool
[05:21] <imbrandon> dealer?
[05:22] <Mez> trainee inspector, but i deal now and then
[05:22] <imbrandon> cool
[05:22] <Mez> brb
[05:24] <Mez> back
[05:24] <Mez> hmmles
[05:25] <freeflying> hi imbrandon Mez 
[05:25] <Mez> hey freeflying get your pam_bio sorted?
[05:26] <imbrandon> heya freeflying 
[05:26] <freeflying> Mez: seems we'd patch patch kdm for notify guys wanna use fingerprint fot login  :)
[05:29] <Mez> freeflying, fun :D
[05:29] <Mez> imbrandon, any news on buntudot access?
[05:31] <imbrandon> oh crap i forgot "again" , let me sober up a bit then i'll email you with the login info
[05:31] <imbrandon> i'm in no shape to be setting access rights
[05:31] <imbrandon> :)
[05:31] <Mez> I'm not sober, and I still managet to do stuff properly
[05:32] <imbrandon> heh , well i have a limit, i'm doing good to type atm :)
[07:30] <nixternal> pwnd
[07:30] <Hobbsee> heya
[07:38] <nixternal> hehe, hiya
[07:39] <nixternal> Mez: you got mail!
[07:39] <Mez> o_O
[07:39] <Mez> nixternal, what have i done now ?
[07:39] <nixternal> it is good
[07:39] <nixternal> brb, gotta fix this horrid irc connect
[07:39] <Mez> what is it ? (cause it may have been filtered)
[07:40] <Mez> nixternal, what's it regarding ?
[07:41] <Mez> nixternal, what's it regarding ?
[07:42] <nixternal> katapult, and it is a present just for you..actually 2 emails, because i forgot the attachment on the first one ;p
[07:42] <nixternal> docs
[07:42] <nixternal> im in a wonderful freenode + konversation lag cycle
[07:42] <Mez> nixternal, which email ?
[07:44] <nixternal> the first email documents what i did, and the 2nd with the smiley faced topic is the attachment
[07:44] <nixternal> thekatapult.org.uk
[07:44] <nixternal> lol
[07:44] <Mez> it's on an evil server
[07:44] <Mez> can you re-send to katapult-dev@lists.sourceguru.net
[07:44] <nixternal> well, i can resend it
[07:44] <nixternal> will do now
[07:45] <Mez> the dev list is a useful place
[07:46] <nixternal> sent
[07:46] <Mez> nixternal, ah, you're being greylisted - w-0-0-t
[07:47] <nixternal> i created a handbook for katapult that you can place in kde svn /trunk/extragear/utils/katapult/doc
[07:47] <nixternal> ubuntu.com is greylisted?
[07:47] <nixternal> hehe
[07:48] <nixternal> .tar.gz attachment 
[07:48] <Mez> nixternal, you just sent to katapult-dev@lists.sourceguru.net - which is greylists
[07:49] <Mez> Nov 18 06:47:23 torpor postfix/smtpd[20534] : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from alnrmhc14.comcast.net[206.18.177.54] : 450 <katapult-dev@lists.sourceguru.net>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 235 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/lists.sourceguru.net.html); from=<nixternal@ubuntu.com> to=<katapult-dev@lists.sourceguru.net> proto=ESMTP helo=<alnrmhc14.comcast.net>
[07:49] <nixternal> lol
[07:49] <Mez> ;)
[07:49] <Mez> now, is your mailserver nice
[07:50] <nixternal> it is my isp, which is one of the largest in the world
[07:50] <nixternal> used to be attbi, att@home
[07:50] <Mez> godamnit
[07:50] <nixternal> hehe
[07:52] <Mez> Nov 18 06:50:48 torpor postfix/local[20700] : A655A17C237: to=<sourceguru.net_ubuntu@torpor.sourceguru.net>, orig_to=<ubuntu@sourceguru.net>, relay=local, delay=23, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/procmail -f-)
[07:52] <Mez> haha
[07:52] <Mez> greylisted AGAIN
[07:52] <Mez> Nov 18 06:52:29 torpor postfix/smtpd[20818] : NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from alnrmhc14.comcast.net[204.127.225.94] : 450 <katapult-dev@lists.sourceguru.net>: Recipient address rejected: Greylisted for 300 seconds (see http://isg.ee.ethz.ch/tools/postgrey/help/lists.sourceguru.net.html); from=<nixternal@ubuntu.com> to=<katapult-dev@lists.sourceguru.net> proto=ESMTP helo=<alnrmhc14.comcast.net>
[07:52] <Mez> brb
[07:52] <nixternal> lol
[07:53] <nixternal> i will put the damn thing on my server and just have you dl it if need be
[07:54] <Mez> lol
[07:54] <Mez> it'll get through eventually
[07:57] <Mez> it's my version of a screensaver ;)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> the BSOD screensaver is so much better.
[07:58] <nixternal> hehe
[07:58] <Mez> true, but meh - :P it freaked too many people out at work
[07:58] <nixternal> heh, i put it on my pop's pc and he got pissed
[07:58] <Mez> o_O
[07:58] <Mez>  proto=SMTP helo=<Macmini.local>
[07:59] <nixternal> lol
[08:04] <Mez> nixternal, http://lists.sourceguru.net/pipermail/katapult-dev/2006-November/000061.html
[08:04] <nixternal> thats awesome
[08:04] <nixternal> let me upload it
[08:04] <Mez> upload what ?
[08:04] <nixternal> the file
[08:04] <nixternal> doesn't that say it was scrubbed?
[08:06] <Mez> yeah, in the pipermail log
[08:06] <Mez> it got sent via email tho
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[08:06] <Mez>     Documentation Copyright &copy; 2006, the Katapult Development Team <email>dev@thekatapult.org.uk</email>
[08:06] <Mez>   </para>
[08:06] <Mez> should be
[08:06] <nixternal> hehe
[08:07] <Hobbsee> Mez: even more fun, then
[08:07] <Mez>     Documentation Copyright &copy; 2006, Richard Johnson <email>nixternal@ubuntu.com</email>
[08:07] <nixternal> i didn't do it that way Mez just in case i blow up or something
[08:07] <nixternal> hehe
[08:07] <Mez> ;)
[08:07] <Mez> but we wub you
[08:08] <Mez> btw,
[08:08] <nixternal> you never know, one to many sharp pointy sticks tend to wipe a person out 
[08:08] <nixternal> hehe
[08:08] <Mez> go put it all in the wiki ;)
[08:08] <nixternal> i can do that
[08:09] <Mez> ;)
[08:42] <Mez> NINJA!!!!
[08:43] <nixternal> haha
[08:43] <Hobbsee> i think i need to add a notify for "pointy" or "long pointy stick" or something
[08:43] <Mez> Hobbsee, how did you know ?
[08:44] <Hobbsee> Mez: know what?  i just happened to glance over here, and see sharp pointy sticks
[08:44] <nixternal> ahhh
[08:44] <Mez> oh, I thought it was in response to my
[08:44] <Mez> NINJA!!!!
[08:44] <nixternal> ya, that was perfect timing on that one
[08:45] <Hobbsee> nope
[08:45] <Mez> lol
[08:45] <Mez> nixternal, wanna be a forum ninja too ?
[08:46] <nixternal> i need to be in the forums a heck of a lot more though, in ubuntu and kubuntu as well
[08:46] <nixternal> i have been neglecting my elite forums skills
[08:46] <Mez> aw but we need someone to be a forum ninja to get rid of stuff like this
[08:46] <Mez> http://forums.thekatapult.org.uk/index.php?showtopic=97
[08:46] <Hobbsee> Mez: a forum ninja?
[08:46] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[08:46] <Mez> you're an ubuntu-forums ninja ?
[08:46] <nixternal> oh no
[08:46] <nixternal> they tried, someone did, but i couldn't do it
[08:47] <Hobbsee> Mez: well, you said you were wanting some crack yesterday....who knows, you might want some of that too
[08:47] <Mez> lol
[08:54] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:54] <Mez> I hate having to email the radio station before I go in...
[08:54] <Mez> I dont know why I have to
[08:54] <Mez> I have the RFID stuff to get in anyways
[08:55] <Mez> but no - the manager wants to know when I'm in ... godamn them
[08:55] <Mez> anyways
[08:55] <Mez> actually
[08:55] <Mez> cigarette first
[08:55] <Hobbsee> hah
[08:55] <Hobbsee> you're just a long way off bed.
[08:56] <Mez> it's there *points*
[10:01] <nixternal> yay
[10:01] <Jucato> heheh
[10:02] <nixternal> man, they must be shooting for the world record in netsplits
[10:02] <Jucato> hah
[10:02] <nixternal> tomboy rocks!  to bad i don't have an icon in systray though
[10:03] <Jucato> any KDE counterpart? (just wondering... I'm not a fan of KNotes... yet...)
[10:03] <nixternal> i haven't seen any yet
[10:04] <nixternal> there used to be KWiki
[10:04] <nixternal> or somethign liek that
[10:04] <Jucato> tomboy sounds nice, from what I've heard/read...
[10:04] <nixternal> man, it is awesome
[10:04] <Jucato> :)
[10:04] <nixternal> it makes my todo list on the desktop shorter
[10:05] <nixternal> and every one of my actual todos are linked wiki style
[10:05] <Jucato> kicks knotes' ass, right?
[10:05] <nixternal> slightly
[10:05] <nixternal> with knotes, you either have 1 huge todo list, or a ton of small ones
[10:06] <Hobbsee> Jucato: check out basket
[10:06] <nixternal> with tomoby i have 1 small one that links to all my other ones
[10:06] <nixternal> basket is cool
[10:06] <Jucato> yeah... and I just find KNotes a bit awkward to use... specially when you let it run at startup...
[10:06] <nixternal> but there is something about it that i just can't put my finger on
[10:06] <Hobbsee> nixternal: the latest one, particularly
[10:06] <nixternal> ya, i just uninstalled it
[10:06] <Jucato> Hobbsee: hm... I'll try that. but isn't basket more than just notes? 
[10:07] <Hobbsee> yes
[10:07] <nixternal> basket is pretty much a life controller x100
[10:07] <nixternal> there is a learning curve with it, not that steep, but the curve never ends
[10:08] <Jucato> hehe... so at one end, I have KNotes which if very minimal, and on the other hand, there's basket, which is very full of features...
[10:08] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:08] <Hobbsee> but it's very nice :)
[10:08] <Jucato> I'll try it on monday... just *might* be what I need.
[10:13] <nixternal> oh come on already
[10:13] <nixternal> this is rediculous
[10:13] <Jucato> what's happening to freenode?
[10:13] <nixternal> someone keeps flushing the tubes
[10:14] <Jucato> tsk tsk
[10:14] <Hobbsee> heh
[10:14] <Hobbsee> lovely netsplits
[10:17] <nixternal> yes, im going to bed before the next round of netsplits come though
[10:17] <nixternal> g'nite all
[10:18] <Jucato> night!
[10:25] <Hobbsee> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-qt4: Depends: python-sip4 (< 4.5) but 4.5-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[10:26] <Hobbsee> prohibits k-d from being installed in edgy
[10:26] <Hobbsee> er, feisty
[10:55] <Hobbsee> Riddell: kdesu is broken in feisty - it's not accepting the correct password.  sudo does
[11:02] <Hobbsee> and the kmilo stuff is dead, presumably due  to deaded dbus
[11:32] <danimo> moin
[11:33] <danimo> is anyone working on improving dsl/isdn/modem configuration for feisty?
[11:33] <danimo> Riddell: do you know?
[11:35] <pygi> danimo: you mean ppp* configuration tool?
[11:36] <danimo> yepp
[11:36] <danimo> kppp is imho not even close to usable
[11:37] <pygi> danimo: I know, same problem in both kde and gnome lands
[11:37] <pygi> danimo: was thinking of writing a backend for configuration, and then two UI's on top of that
[11:38] <pygi> danimo: I don't think anyone worked on that so far tho
[11:39] <danimo> some pppoeconf-style tool would be awesome
[11:40] <pygi> danimo: uh, bunch of shell script commands :-/
[11:41] <pygi> danimo: that tool often breaks stuff
[11:44] <pygi> danimo: but I understand what you mean, yes
[11:46] <danimo> pygi: yes, I just mean semantics
[02:47] <toma> Hobbsee: thnxs for filing  the synq req.
[02:48] <Hobbsee> toma: :)
[02:50] <toma> is there a autosync betwee debian experimental and feisty?
[02:50] <Hobbsee> toma: yes, for packages that havent been changed in ubuntu
[02:50] <danimo> is feisty branched out already?
[02:51] <Hobbsee> sure
[02:51] <Hobbsee> has been for a while
[02:51] <toma> Hobbsee: allright. It will be important to have that since debian unstable will be used less and less now they will be releasing soon
[02:51] <Hobbsee> toma: oh wait, experimental?  no idea
[02:52] <toma> ;-(
[02:52] <danimo> Hobbsee: ok :)
[02:54] <toma> Hobbsee: but i can file sync requests for experimental right?
[02:55] <Hobbsee> toma: yep
[02:55] <Hobbsee> just make sure you say wher eyou want it from, obviously
[02:55] <toma> by...
[03:13] <bddebian> Howdy
[04:20] <xst> Can anyone here explain if bug #58721 is being ignored or if there is actually being worked on a solution? All Matrox owners are currently stuck with a complete showstopper of a bug (broken X). No developer seems to participate/listen on the (large) thread on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721
[04:20] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 58721 in xserver-xorg-video-mga "Edgy upgrade breaks multiple Matrox cards" [Unknown,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/58721
[07:50] <Riddell> danimo: not as far as I know
[10:53] <fdoving> Riddell: ping. the norwegian mirror listed at kubuntu.org does not resolv properly. please remove it from the list.
[10:56] <fdoving> Riddell: updating to http://mirror.trivini.no/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/ is also a possibility.
[11:00] <fdoving> Riddell: for dapper, the second norwegian iso mirror is dead too. mirror.fr3drik.net
[11:05] <fdoving> Riddell: mirror.trivini.no has magically been moved to oceania -> new zealand, should be in europe -> norway.