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TheGateKeeperis your *.sh script executable ?12:12
LeeJunFan_awz_: what's the error?12:12
_awz_lejunfan12:13
_awz_talk on a private chat wit me12:13
dragonfly7Could someone tell me how to get Totem/Xine to play videos without the use of the Graphics card? Mine overheats after a while in full screen, and then my computer crashes.12:13
TheMoledragonfly7: what graphics card do you have?12:14
TheGateKeeperchmod +rx <scriptname> ??12:14
TheGateKeeperdragonfly7, using nvidia?12:14
dragonfly7TheMole: A GeForce 440 go. It is from an Inspiron  800o laptop.12:14
TheMoleUsing the nvidia drivers?12:15
dragonfly7TheMole: Inspiron 8000*12:15
LeeJunFan_awz_: keep it in the channel.12:15
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_awz_here is the error12:15
_awz_awz@Yuki:~$ /home/awz12:15
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_awz_bash: /home/awz: is a directory12:15
_awz_awz@Yuki:~$ sh linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh12:15
_awz_kio (KSycoca): Trying to open ksycoca from /var/tmp/kdecache-awz/ksycoca12:15
_awz_ScimInputContextPlugin()12:15
_awz_konsole: ERROR: can not execute ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh12:15
_awz_~ScimInputContextPlugin()12:15
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_bartek_How i can install mp3 codec????12:16
_bartek_How i can install mp3 codec????12:16
_bartek_How i can install mp3 codec????12:16
_bartek_How i can install mp3 codec????12:16
_bartek_How i can install mp3 codec????12:16
soulrider!mp312:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:16
soulriderand dont spam12:16
borisyeltsinman, if only we had a vote system...12:16
dragonfly7TheMole:  Yeah, I am using the nVidia drivers. Unfortunatly, I would rather not now, since it keeps dieing. I tried changing the drive to nv in Xorg, but that made the resolution 800*600 pan and scan.12:16
borisyeltsinHow can I get bartek kicked????12:17
TheGateKeeperdragonfly7, use nv instead12:17
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erhanr http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=15073   ~ScimInputContextPlugin()12:17
_bartek_boris why kicked??12:17
Tm_T_bartek_: Stop repeating, that only will get yourself into trouble.12:17
LeeJunFanfor flooding12:17
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dragonfly7TheGateKeeper: See above. It makes me have to pan and scan, and changes the resolution to 800.12:17
_bartek_sory12:17
Tm_T_bartek_: No harm done, just learn from mistakes. ;)12:18
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LeeJunFan_awz_: not sure what's up with that, try chmod +x linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh then just run it as ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh12:18
TheMoledragonfly7: I dunno, I'm all out of answers, sorry dude.12:19
_awz_thanks man12:19
TheGateKeeperdragonfly7, I am using the nv driver, never bother to install the nvidia ones, and I am happily running at 1024 * 76812:19
LeeJunFan_awz_: It's hard to say w/o knowing what the script is trying to do but it might be (if you're on edgy) sh (dash) doesn't like that script well. hopefully the script links #!/bin/bash12:19
dragonfly7TheMole: Ok, I will try looking around on google. Maybe if I uninstall the nVidia drivers it will force it to the correct resolution.12:19
TheMoleYou will loose all 3d acceleration, though.12:20
TheGateKeeperdragonfly7, you need to go into /etc/X11/xorg.conf & modify the settings12:20
Stev_Linux_kdequel channel pour Kubuntu en fr ?12:20
dragonfly7TheGateKeeper: The thing is, I want to use the card for most things, just not video playback.12:20
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_bartek_Damn ;/12:21
TheMoledragonfly7: I know if you use mplayer you can tell it not to use the card.12:21
TheMoleMaybe there is an option in xine?12:21
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_bartek_are winamp, or something like that runing at Ubuntu??12:21
TheMole_bartek_: try xmms, looks and acts like winamp.12:22
_bartek_thanks12:22
_awz_leejunfan, i'm a new linux user, so i dont know what you mean by #!/bin/bash12:22
_bartek_TheMole ad how i can install mp3 codec??12:22
LeeJunFan_awz_: open the file with nano and look at the first line.12:23
_awz_alright12:23
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TheMole_bartek_: if you install the automatix program that can download it all for you.12:23
LeeJunFan_awz_: that line starting with #! tells it what file to use to open the script.12:23
_bartek_TheMole i don't have automatix, where i can download it??12:24
LjL!automatix12:24
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.12:24
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, if you are using the xine engine then install libxine-extacodecs12:24
_awz_oh12:24
TheMoleOh, there you go then :p12:24
LeeJunFan_bartek_: all you have to do to get mp3 working is install libxine-extracodecs12:24
_bartek_The Gate Keper i try it but this not runing, i dont know why ;/12:24
dragonfly7TheMole: Ok, there is a video driver setting, options include: "auto, aadxr3, dxr3, opengl, fb, sdl" Any of these look familiar?12:25
LeeJunFan_bartek_: then you can use amarok to play mp3's which is pretty much (hands down) the best mp3 player there is.12:25
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, using amarok?12:25
_bartek_yes12:25
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_awz_i dont think i have nano12:26
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, well go into the settings select engines & make sure it's using the xine engine12:26
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_bartek_LeeJunFan i using amarok but "he" cant open mp's12:26
TheGateKeeperamarok settings that is12:26
TheMoledragonfly7: I'd try either fb or sdl, not sure what they do though.12:26
LeeJunFan_awz_: it's installed by default. at the shell type nano [filename] 12:26
_awz_alright12:26
LeeJunFan_bartek_: you need to install libxine-extracodecs12:26
_bartek_how?12:27
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_bartek_i a beginner user ;/12:27
TheGateKeeper!libxine-extracodecs12:27
LeeJunFan!adept | _bartek_12:27
TheMole_bartek_: go to the k button, click system and then adept package manager.12:27
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB12:27
ubotu_bartek_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto12:27
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TheGateKeeper_bartek_, you dapper or edgy?12:28
_bartek_i using the KPM i download Java and i cant enter the chat ;/12:28
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_bartek_java's not running ;/12:28
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, you using dapper or edgy?12:28
_awz_ok i did that12:28
_awz_with nano12:29
TheGateKeeperooops12:29
_bartek_Ubuntu 5.1012:29
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LeeJunFan_awz_: what's the first line say?12:29
_awz_#! /bin/sh12:29
LeeJunFan#!/bin/sh or #!/bin/bash12:29
LeeJunFan_awz_: try changing to #!/bin/bash and run the script again.12:29
LeeJunFanctrl-x to quit with option to save12:29
_awz_how do i change it12:29
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dragonfly7ThwMole" I will try fb now.12:30
Bubba_Gump:)12:30
_bartek_TheGateKeeper i have instaled Macromedia FP only.. other files "not running" or i cant install this :)12:30
LeeJunFan_awz_: type it in.12:30
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TheGateKeeper_bartek_, when did you install Ubuntu 5.10 ?12:31
_bartek_from CD12:31
Xal2when?12:31
Xal2lol12:31
TheGateKeeper:-)12:32
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_bartek_damn, my english i so easy ;/12:32
_awz_ok i changed it12:32
_awz_now just re-run it like normal?12:33
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_bartek_..12:33
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nickiesalut stevy12:34
LeeJunFan_awz_: yeah12:34
Stev_Linux_kdenikie c juste du Anglish12:34
Stev_Linux_kdec plate mais c comme ca12:34
nickiej'ai vue12:34
Stev_Linux_kde:)12:34
_bartek_i install my Kubuntu 3 days ago..12:34
LeeJunFan_awz_: ./[filename] 12:34
LeeJunFan_awz_: or bash [filename] 12:35
_awz_uh, well, it didnt work, and now when i nano again, there is nothing there12:35
_bartek_its that correct ??12:35
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nickiepas grave j'adore pas ce genre de truc12:35
Stev_Linux_kdeSVP Nickie rejoin #kubuntu.fr.org :012:35
_bartek_TheGateKeeper 3 days ago..12:35
LeeJunFan_awz_: nothing there? you sure you got the filename right?12:35
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_awz_yah, i got it right, nevermind its there12:36
TheGateKeepercat /proc/version  <--- put that into konsol and paste the output12:36
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, ^^^12:36
_bartek_ok12:36
_awz_ok, it doesnt work still12:37
Stev_Linux_kdeScusse nikie #kubuntu-fr12:37
_bartek_Linux version 2.6.12-9-386 (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 3.4.5 20050809 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8)) #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 200512:37
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LeeJunFan_awz_: same errors?12:37
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TheGateKeeper_bartek_, damn wrong one try: cat /etc/issue12:38
_awz_yes12:38
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_bartek_Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"12:38
LeeJunFan_awz_: hrm, sorry. I'd have to take a look at the script to figure it out.12:38
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, and you are still trying to set it up correct?12:39
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_bartek_yes12:39
_bartek_maybe toy knows the some commands to install the mp3 codec??12:40
_bartek_*you12:40
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, ok what I would do is at least upgrade to dapper or install edgy12:40
Stev_Linux_kdebarkek Xmms12:40
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Stev_Linux_kdedownload too sinaptic paket installer12:41
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_bartek_dont opening ;/12:41
TheGateKeeper_bartek_,   you can install update-manager & press the button to upgrade to dapper12:41
jhondoebrowse aptitude and search12:41
_bartek_ok how i can do this??12:41
_bartek_download from NET??12:41
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, or you download either dapper or edgy & start again12:42
jhondoeshell --- aptitude12:42
jhondoeand search "codec"12:42
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TheGateKeeper_bartek_, it's up to you12:42
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jhondoeif don't work...i'm a monkey ;p12:42
Stev_Linux_kdebarkek install directely  paket menager download12:42
TheGateKeeperto install update manage then just enter apt-get install update-manager12:42
Stev_Linux_kdeje suis pourie en ang mais pas grave  :P12:43
_bartek_E: Nie udao si otworzy pliku blokady /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Brak dostpu)12:43
_bartek_E: Nie udao si zablokowa katalogu list12:43
_bartek_;/12:43
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, I have collected a bunch of usefull stuff & put it here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntunotes12:44
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TheGateKeeperI got to do sleep but will be back in here tomorrow12:44
_bartek_ok12:45
_bartek_good night12:45
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bubu1ukanyone know bout some good organizer, calendar etc. application, suite on linux except koganizer?12:45
_bartek_i dont ;/12:45
TheGateKeeper_bartek_, good night (others might be able to help but I would at least upgrade to dapper one way or another)12:46
_bartek_C'YA12:46
_bartek_thanks12:46
TheGateKeepernp :-)12:46
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_bartek_C'YA ALL !12:46
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icheynehi all. In www.ubuntuguide.org they mention two ways to get java - "How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE)" and "How to install JRE v5.0 Update 9". What is the difference?12:49
Admiral_ChicagoTheGateKeeper: i know how to install flash12:50
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totolezerohello12:52
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TheGateKeepern8 all12:53
totolezerohello12:54
totolezero!12:54
erhanrhello totolezero12:54
totolezerohello12:54
totolezerohow you doin ?12:54
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yetiis there any really good DJing software for linux?12:57
[GuS] Guys... Xchat systray does not work in AMD64 with Beryl... but works perfect in I386 version12:58
[GuS] the systray does not dock into the bar12:58
[GuS] just stay as another window12:58
[GuS] and... the systray has no transparent BG12:58
Admiral_Chicago[GuS] : have you tried #ubuntu-xgl12:58
Admiral_Chicagoor filing a bug report12:58
[GuS] i do not use XGL :)12:58
[GuS] and this does not happen with i386 as i say...12:59
Sanneyeti: check http://www.linux-sound.org/ and http://ubuntustudio.org/ and ubuntustudio on ubuntuforums and #lad here on freenode ;)12:59
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[GuS] another thing that this... is the PNG image... that has not transparente BG (and in i386, has trasn. BG)12:59
Sanneyeti: oh, and of yourse #ubuntustudio also here on freenode01:00
yetiSanne: ok, thx :)01:00
Sanneyeti: you're welcome01:00
[GuS] i downloaded Xchat source tocompile again and check if the transparente BG on .PNG (systray) icon patch was applied... and yes it was01:00
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jdfellowi have a question perhaps a strange one anyone game?01:02
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jdfellowregarding russian fonts01:03
jdfellowneed help with an experiment please01:04
jdfellowmaybe kubuntu related am not sure what is going on...01:05
jmichaelxcould anyone who is able to view the news clips from Yahoo! in edgy with FF2.0 / mplayer plugin please tell me how you got it to work? (if anyone has it working at all)01:05
jmichaelxthey worked fine in dapper01:05
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larss0nMy frostwire wont connect, anyone got the same problem ???01:18
larss0nMy frostwire wont connect, anyone got the same problem ???01:18
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james_how do i get my nicknames to sign out when they get stuck in here? lol01:20
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Raven301james_: /ghost nickname password01:20
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james_Raven301: ty01:21
larss0nMy frostwire wont connect, anyone got the same problem ???01:21
larss0nMy frostwire wont connect, anyone got the same problem ???01:21
Raven301james_: but don't do it in a channel01:21
Raven301np01:21
james_Raven301: it said "ghost ubknown command"01:22
james_i'm in konversation01:22
james_unknown*01:22
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Raven301jmichaelx: /msg NickServ GHOST nickname [password] 01:23
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jmichaelxRaven301: thanks again01:24
Raven301np01:25
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jmichaelxcould anyone who is able to view the news clips from Yahoo! in edgy with FF2.0 / mplayer plugin please tell me how you got it to work? (if anyone has it working at all)01:25
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omicron_hi there. i had to repartition and reformat my ipod nano as well as putting the firmware back on place again. I partitioned as follows: sda1 (notype) sda2(fat32). it is recognized by kubuntu and by amarok 1.44 as well.  now I am transferring mp3s on the ipod and its horribly slow... do you have any ideas what went wrong?01:25
jmichaelxthey work in dapper. i am wondering if it is the mplayer build used in edgy??01:25
Eeyore-Jrcan the printer que hang01:26
Eeyore-Jr?01:26
seraphangelout of edgy or dapper is either more stable than the other?01:26
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HealotEeyore-Jr: deadblock of printing que can happen sometimes, mostly hardware problem01:27
Eeyore-Jrhow do you clear or restart the que ?01:28
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Healotpause the job, fix/check the printer, resume printing, really depends on what's the situation there01:29
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Eeyore-Jrfrom the cli ?01:29
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Healotor you can delete the job, resend it back to print que, change the priority maybe?01:29
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Healoti have no idea on how to do that, use the print manager << I can do this01:29
Eeyore-Jrwell, the printer has been deleted, readded, the que cleared, etc.01:29
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Healotyou need to delete the printer (driver)?01:30
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cellofellowhttp://school-at-home.blogspot.com01:34
cellofellowanyone who cares here?01:34
cellofellowanyone is welcome to read that.01:34
cellofellow=->01:34
larss0nMy frostwire wont connect, anyone got the same problem ???01:35
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larss0nMy frostwire wont connect, anyone got the same problem ???01:36
Healotnay, I don't use Fw01:36
larss0nwhat does you use then ?01:36
Healotcellofellow: you're a homeschool?01:36
Healotlarss0n: i don't do p2p religiously, just your regular Brahm cohen's Bittorrent client01:37
larss0nokey01:38
larss0nAnyone know the name of pinks new album ^01:38
Healotlarss0n: you music pirate :)01:39
erhanrlarss0n: pink   "im not dead" ?01:40
cellofellowHealot: oh, yes01:40
jagerso i installed ndisgtk to manage my evil dlink wifi card01:41
jagerdriver is installed01:41
jagerbut when i click configure network it says01:42
jagerFailed to open device01:42
jagersh: network-admin: not found01:42
jagerwhere do i find network-admin?01:42
jagerthis is a fresh install of kubuntu edgy01:42
jageri assume it's looking for a gnome tool01:42
jageranyone know which?01:42
Healot!find knetwork-manager01:42
ubotuPackage/file knetwork-manager does not exist in edgy01:42
Healotdamn... good luck01:43
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jager!find network-manager01:44
ubotuFound: knetworkmanager, network-manager, network-manager-dev, network-manager-gnome, network-manager-pptp01:44
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jagerknetworkmanager doesn't see it :(01:48
jagerfral01:48
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vieirahi, can any one help me with crontab?01:54
vieirai've put a program to execute in the crontab, but doesn't starts01:54
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vieiraany ideias why it appens!?01:55
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erhanrvieira: u sure did you write right time ?01:58
vieirai think so01:58
vieirait's amule01:58
vieiraerhanr: i've lanch the app01:59
vieiraerhanr: put in the command the path to amule and choose every day 00:55, but didn't lunch it01:59
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Admiral_Chicagoi edited a partition table to have /ldev/hda1 and a free space02:00
erhanrvieira: . /bin/sh -c where_your_amule .did you try it ?02:00
vieiranopes02:01
Admiral_Chicagonow the installer is asking me for a mount point and partition02:01
Admiral_Chicagois it just blank on both of them?02:01
vieiraerhanr: going to do it now02:01
vieiraerhanr: but when i open the app to manage the cron tab, if i select run it starts02:02
vieiraerhanr: nopes :(02:02
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erhanrvieira:  can you open other program with cron ?02:04
vieiraerhanr: i've tried to open firefox didn't work either :/02:05
erhanrwell i just use cron by console02:05
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vieiraerhanr: i think that not the problem02:06
vieiraerhanr: i'll do it by console02:07
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VooXohi all02:07
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VooXomy question isn't really related to kubuntu, but i didn't know who other to ask:02:07
VooXowhen I enter at commands in extra settings (in windows), how do i separate them if i have more then 1 at command?02:08
VooXo*in modem extra settings02:08
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VooXo?02:09
vieiraerhanr: same problem shell but didn't work02:09
VooXoanyone...? o_O02:09
erhanrcron is it workin?02:09
VooXodamn02:09
vieiravieira@vieira-desktop:/$ crontab -l02:09
vieira55 0 * * *      /usr/bin/amule02:09
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vieiraerhanr: didn't start02:10
erhanrcron daemon workin?02:10
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vieiraerhanr: how can i check it!?02:11
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vieiraerhanr: how can i check it!?02:15
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tobias_gerr02:20
tobias_kubuntus compressing program sucks, it spends a million years making a little zip file of one damn album in mp302:21
larson9999that would be true for most people02:21
tobias_Im so frustrated02:21
tobias_:)02:21
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tobias_how can i spread my illegally obtained music to my friends in a simple and easy manner with such obstacles in my way!02:22
tobias_someone would probably advice nicotine02:22
vieirahi, can any one help me with crontab?02:22
robotgeekvieira: sure02:22
vieirai've put a program to execute in the crontab, but doesn't starts02:22
tobias_if only all my friends used linux02:22
vieirarobotgeek: it's amule02:22
robotgeekvieira: check the path, you probably want complete path02:23
robotgeektobias_: what compression?02:23
tobias_robotgeek: zip02:23
robotgeektobias_: ask them to get winrar, it opens any damn thing02:23
robotgeekor 7zip02:23
vieirarobotgeek: 10 1 * * *      /usr/bin/amule02:23
vieirarobotgeek: i've the full path02:23
tobias_robotgeek: aah, they might have winrar, it opens the linux compression format? (tar.gz)02:24
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robotgeektobias_: yup02:24
tobias_robotgeek: thanx!02:24
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robotgeekvieira: is it not a gui client?02:25
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robotgeekvieira: i am not sure how gui clients work with X, my guess is that is your issue02:25
arriespola02:25
robotgeekvieira: i mean, gui clients in cron02:25
vieirarobotgeek: i've did it from shell and gui02:26
robotgeekvieira: yes, but when you are running a cron job, X is not necessarily up02:26
vieirarobotgeek: i now how to edit cron by shell, but progs don't start02:26
vieirarobotgeek: i'm missing something?02:26
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robotgeekvieira: moment02:27
erhanrsorry .i wasnt here02:27
vieirarobotgeek: X is the kde desktop!?02:27
vieirarobotgeek: oki02:27
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vieirarobotgeek: just for remark if a open the gui and choose run now it start02:28
robotgeekvieira: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185993&highlight=cron02:28
RythanI have a question about an ATI All-In-Wonder (8500) and TVtime, can anybody assist, please02:28
robotgeekRythan: dont ask to ask, just ask02:28
tobias_is there someway I can make holding my mouse over a folder show how many mb's are being kept inside the folder?02:29
RythanHeh @ robotgeek ... okay02:29
tobias_or even right clicking and clicking something02:29
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robotgeektobias_: right click + properties + calculate02:29
tobias_I feel like such a n00b02:29
tobias_aha02:29
tobias_thanx!02:29
tobias_:D02:29
RythanATI All-In-Wonder (8500) and TVtime I get /dev/video0 no such device -- so ... can I get this to work02:29
tobias_it works02:29
RythanI am not sure where to start02:30
intelikey!ati | Rythan02:30
ubotuRythan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:30
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robotgeekRythan: i think i saw something on the tvtime wikie about ati cards and some overlays, but i might be wrong02:30
intelikeybeen there ?02:30
RythanNo, not yet ... I was looking for a source, thx intelikey02:31
RythanAnd thx robotgeek02:31
robotgeekRythan: also chk tvtime wiki/faq02:31
uriHey, I'm looking for a decent software synthesizer for Ubuntu/Kubuntu, something maybe along the lines of Fruity Loops Studio. I haven't really had any luck finding one.02:31
robotgeekisn't there a ubuntustudio.com, that might have good background info02:32
RythanI will robotgeek02:32
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Sanneuri: there are some apps in the works, but it's not yet as integrated all-in-one like fruity. There are http://lmms.sourceforge.net/ and http://wired.epitech.net/ being developed currently, and also a new buzz clone: http://trac.zeitherrschaft.org/zzub/wiki/AldrinScreenshots02:34
urirobotgeek and Sanne: thanks! i'm checking it out now02:34
Sanneuri: commercial energyXT will be out for Linux soon, beta is announced for december, if you don't oppose closed source: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3602:35
tobias_robotgeek: it doesnt want to compress for some reason, it just says it is compressing for a long time, but when i look for the file it is not there hmmm02:35
robotgeektobias_: how are you compressing?02:35
tobias_robotgeek: I right click and then i choose the compress function with the standard filename02:36
tobias_from konqueror02:36
paul_anyone compiled and run tork on kubuntu edgy?02:36
uriSanne: :D if i can create music with it, i'm happy02:36
robotgeektobias_: okay, so what is the issue. it does not show up where?02:37
tobias_robotgeek: in konqueror02:37
Sanneuri: then definitely check it out when it's ready, it's a very nice application, and not too expensive.02:37
tobias_robotgeek: in the place where it should be I guess02:37
tobias_robotgeek: Im not really sure it compressed it either02:37
robotgeektobias_: it hshould be right where you right clicked, refresh maybe02:38
vieirarobotgeek: can't put it to work02:38
tobias_robotgeek: oki02:38
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ademan_what's the name of the KDE rss reader?02:38
robotgeekademan_: akregator02:38
uriSanne: cool, thanks! hey, on the lmms download page, i see several different options. should i just do the lmms_0.1.2-1_i386.deb?02:38
ademan_thanks robotgeek02:39
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Sanneuri: no, if you don't want to build it yourself, just use the ubuntu deb from the repositories.02:39
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uriSanne: hah, duh, thanks02:39
Sanneuri: it's in universe02:39
tobias_robotgeek: aah, I think maybe its because of the dual filesystem of kubuntu, it seems there are two different kinds of adresses, one is the "/media/stordisk/" the other is "media:/hda6" could this be the issue?02:40
erhanrvieira: try  $ sudo /etc/init.d/cron restart   then02:40
tobias_robotgeek: what i mean is both adresses lead the same place, but some programs dont understand02:40
erhanragain edit crontab time your program02:41
uriSanne: what does that mean? (still a newbie, :D )02:41
robotgeektobias_: sorry, not sure what is wrong02:41
tobias_robotgeek: oki, thanx for the help though :)02:41
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vieirarobotgeek: i've put this in my corntab : export DISPLAY=:0 && /usr/bin/amule02:41
vieirarobotgeek: it's ok!?02:41
Sanne!repos > uri02:41
tobias_robotgeek: I Found the file!02:42
vieirarobotgeek: restart did not work02:42
robotgeekvieira: i would giess so02:42
Sanneuri: did you get a message from ubotu?02:42
vieira:802:42
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uriSanne: yeah, thanks02:42
robotgeekvieira: not sure, soryr02:42
Sanneuri: :)02:42
vieirarobotgeek: okis thnks02:42
erhanrif cron restart didnt work its weird02:43
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intelikeymmm without specifing a user won't cron run that as root ?02:43
tobias_are there free servers that work with linux, I mean like quickshare etc?02:44
tobias_I cant get quickshare to work02:44
intelikey!lamp02:44
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.02:44
tobias_trying to upload the file I just compressed02:44
intelikey!ftp02:44
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd02:44
intelikey!samba02:44
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:44
tobias_aha02:44
intelikey!ssh02:45
seraphangel!NTFS02:45
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:45
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse02:45
tobias_hmmm02:45
seraphangel!apt-get02:45
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:45
tobias_quicksharing.com is what I meant, its like this place where I can upload up to 500 mbs and share the url with my friends02:46
tobias_but firefox wont work with it02:46
tobias_I probably need something02:46
intelikeyoh web space....02:46
erhanrcya02:46
tobias_yay02:46
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tobias_it looks pretty nifty and its free so I want to use it in linux02:47
der_steppenwolfhi, why i have the version 0.12.3 of kopete in kubuntu, but as official releases i only find till version 0.12.2?02:47
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vieirarobotgeek: now gives me a error on gui "An error occurred while updating crontab."02:48
intelikey!kopete02:48
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB02:48
tobias_aha02:48
vieirarobotgeek: do u now whats tyhe problem!?02:48
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tobias_kopete rox02:48
der_steppenwolfubotu: yes, i know that, but i wanted to know why the difference in the enumeration of packages...02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yes, i know that, but i wanted to know why the difference in the enumeration of packages... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
robotgeekvieira: hmm, not sure. sorry!02:50
vieiraoki02:50
der_steppenwolfoops, hehe02:50
intelikeyder_steppenwolf we've all dont that.... :)02:51
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vieirarobotgeek: ei it worked now02:52
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intelikeyder_steppenwolf i don't know why the sub-version strings don't match.02:52
vieirarobotgeek: i've closed all shell and the cron gui and the app opened02:52
kdw_ /msg NickServ IDENTIFY wdkchat02:52
robotgeekvieira: great :)02:52
der_steppenwolfok, thanks intelikey02:52
robotgeekkdw_: you might want to change your password :)02:53
vieirarobotgeek: thnks, i'm sure that the export was missing02:53
intelikeykdw_ might want to use a different pass-phrase now that you've shown everyone02:53
intelikeyyeah what robotgeek said.02:53
kdw_doh! thanks all -- too much distraction here02:54
robotgeekhmm, i've done that before, kdw_ . but now, irssi takes care of all the passwords :)02:54
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kdw_hmmm he/i didn't change passwds....02:56
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robotgeekintelikey: bad behaviour :)03:00
intelikeyoh i know.  but two people told him....03:00
intelikey</shrugs>03:00
tobias_I think quicksharing is working now! :D03:01
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tobias_I used konqueror without knowing, but in firefox it seems to work, Im just uploading a giant file03:01
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Omnifrogis there anything odd i should know about installing firefox in dapper manually?03:02
seraphangelanyone else have kubuntu mess there display up? im haveing to go as big as the settings will allow since the fonts are so damn big03:02
seraphangelodd?03:02
intelikeymanually as in from source ?03:03
seraphangelfirefox is easy to install03:03
seraphangelbut dont need to manually03:03
Eeyore-Jryes, why would you want to do that ?03:03
tobias_adept03:03
tobias_!firefox03:03
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:03
Omnifrogok, whats the best way?03:03
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tobias_!adept03:03
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:03
Omnifrogah03:03
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tobias_omnifrog: adept rox03:04
seraphangelanyone had that prob or know how to fix it?03:04
tobias_omnifrog: its why I love kubuntu03:04
Omnifrogim using synaptic but FF2.0 wasnt listed03:04
tobias_omnifrog: you just run this adept program and suddenly you can install a whole bunch of stuff03:04
arriespxao03:04
intelikeyseraphangel kcontrol  set the fonts.03:05
Omnifrogis adept better then syaptic?03:05
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tobias_omnifrog: I think so03:05
HawkwindOmnifrog: It's a matter of personal opinion really03:05
SanneOmnifrog: matter of preference, I guess03:06
intelikeyseraphangel you can set size for all fonts or indavidual or font face...   lots of options.03:06
HawkwindOmnifrog: I personally don't believe in GUI package managers.  The CLI versions just simply work03:06
tobias_GUI rox!03:06
tobias_without GUI where would I be03:06
Omnifrogi like apt-get but sometimes im just to lazy03:06
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tobias_out in the wilderness hugging trees thats where03:06
SanneOmnifrog: Synaptic has a nice install history, that's why I use it.03:07
Omnifrogapt-get is good when i know exactly what i want03:07
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tobias_Adept allways works, it installs, it uninstalls, it rox03:07
intelikey"<Omnifrog> i like apt-get but sometimes im just to lazy"  <--- in truth. i find that i actually spend more time looking for and installing through a gui than cli   same is true for several things not just package management.03:07
HawkwindAdept doesn't allow you to upgrade properly though. That's a documented fact03:07
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intelikeyOmnifrog when i have time to kill i do things the gui way....  :)03:08
tobias_intelikey: but what about us who dont know what we want before we find it in adept? hohum? I use to search for games and stuff03:08
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tklichhello03:08
Sannetobias_: apt-cache search searchterm03:08
Omnifrogadept doesn't show firefox 2.0 either. just 1.503:08
Sannetobias_: or packages.ubuntu.com03:09
HawkwindOmnifrog: 2.0 is in Edgy, not dapper03:09
tobias_sanne: Ill try that someday..03:09
intelikeytobias_ apt-cache search "string to look for"03:09
Omnifrogoh :(03:09
tobias_those things look like commands to type in some console thing,03:09
Omnifrogok, baack to manual install03:09
tklichmy wireless adapter quits responding to the internet at random times03:09
tobias_I dont like console thing03:09
tklichis it trying to find an IP every so often?03:09
SanneI like that you can simulate installs with 'apt-get -s install packagename'03:09
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Hawkwindtobias_: You don't like it because you don't know how to use it effectively03:09
tobias_it makes me feel sad when I have to communicate with my computer using commands03:09
Hawkwindtobias_: If you learned it, you'd use it more and like it, guaranteed03:10
tobias_much better clicking on stuff03:10
tobias_oki03:10
tobias_but how do I make other people like it03:10
intelikeytobias_ ok.  so now we're even.  i don't much like pointy clicky thingies :)03:10
HawkwindAh, windows user mentality with that03:10
Sannetobias_: well, I guess we all did learn how to type, didn't we? ;)03:10
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tobias_Im a sworn kubuntu recruiter03:10
tobias_I do not wish to tell people that gUI is not good, cus GUI is what people want! GUI TO THE PEOPLE!03:11
tobias_:D03:11
tobias_I love kubuntu cus of the pointy clicky guithingies03:11
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intelikeytobias_ :)03:11
tobias_:)03:11
Sannebesides, too much clicking gives you repetitive strain injury.03:12
unix_infidelGUI's are just an abstraction.  No user SHOULD be expected to learn to operate the CLI on a Desktop OS.  Show them how to properly use software to their comfort level.03:13
tobias_I spent about 15 years of my life pointing and clicking in bill gates os of satanism, I need to gui03:13
unix_infidelIF they are comfortable firing up Konsole every so often, great.  If not, you need to adapt.  That's how you recruit, be adaptive.03:13
intelikeySanne and once a person learns a little about *nix nominclature logic kinda takes over.   ls = list  rm = remove  cp = copy   and on and on.....03:13
tobias_unix_infidel: I adept!03:13
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intelikeywant find something     find / -name something03:14
Sanneintelikey: yeah, at least one can hope this should happen ;)03:14
intelikey:)03:14
tobias_:)03:14
tobias_I am much smarter than I type03:14
Sannetobias_: :)03:14
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unix_infidelMost people dont care about the difference b/w forward and backslashes, they want content, and they want it now.  You get paid to be adaptive, or you care enough to do it pro bono.03:15
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tobias_Im free03:15
tobias_I mean, Im ..pro bono...03:15
paul_hmm when I type find tork it comes up with no result #~~~YET I know I have it in my file system03:15
unix_infideltobias_: If you are really sincere in your efforts I honestly commend you and wish there were more people promoting the OS like you.03:16
unix_infidelpaul_: man find.03:16
tobias_unix_infidel: thanx :)03:16
paul_find is pretty dumb as a desktop search tool IMHO03:16
unix_infidelyoull see there are search parameters for case sensitive and insensitive searches.03:16
unix_infidelThere are gui front ends that are much better.03:17
unix_infidelOR you could develop your own find tool :)03:17
tobias_this channel is one of the things I use as a reason for using ubuntu\kubuntu, cus user support for free is something really cool03:18
Sannepaul_: there's locate, much faster, but the database needs to be updated from time to time.03:18
paul_hmm anything to rival google desktop would be good03:18
unix_infidelpaul_: there is.03:18
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intelikeyactually i have a confession.  about 3/4 years ago i made the statement "i'm a gui kind of guy"  to a fellow that was telling me i should learn a little about the linux cli    the smart-elic  said "that's ok you'll get over that :)"     i thought to myself not likely.  but, in fact it wasn't 6 months and the damage had already been done...   i have linux boxes around here that don't even have X installed. and don't need i03:18
unix_infidelLess innovative algorithms, but just as good.03:18
DadanHappyi'm still didn't understand, ubuntu comunity and the others opensource comunity, they spend time to develop this system, but they released to public for free, so where they get money03:19
tobias_hehe03:19
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tobias_dadanhappy: a nice guy in space sent the money03:19
DadanHappy:)03:19
unix_infidelDadanHappy: well funding comes from somewhere.  That's a given.03:19
paul_money=support maybe03:19
unix_infidelDadanHappy: but the premise is that information belongs to everyone, if you innovate, you make money.03:20
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unix_infidelHowever, you make less money than if you innovate and dont tell anyone how you did it.  Sorta like, "If you give a man a fish...."03:20
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SanneDadanHappy: it's another business model, they don't believe in closed source applications business models, but hope to earn money by providing support.03:20
unix_infidelThe BSD model is a bit more dogmatic imho,  not sure if its superior :)03:21
intelikeyDadanHappy most develop linux in their "free time"  because they like linux and (most) of the people using it....   it's a gratify'ing  'i can do something good' sort of thing.03:21
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intelikeynot all of course ^03:21
paul_I think Qudos has more to play than the good of man03:21
Alter-Ego!install03:22
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues03:22
DadanHappyhmm03:22
SanneDadanHappy: and also, it's a good thing for humanity as a whole, because closing off knowledge wouldn't bring us further, but sharing it does. It is dearly needed in this time, in my opinion.03:22
DadanHappyi c03:22
intelikeySanne imo 203:23
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Sanneintelikey: :)03:23
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intelikeycall it a religion if you will, but there are open source zealots out there.03:24
tobias_dadanhappy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth03:24
tobias_:D03:24
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intelikeyrms who ?03:24
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Sanneintelikey: of yourse there are. You get those kind of people everywhere, regardless of cause.03:24
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tobias_Sanne: Im a vegan too03:24
intelikeytravold ?03:25
intelikeyerrr does that have an s on it ?03:25
tobias_ok, im a little drunk, maybe i shouldnt hang in this channel while drunk03:25
paul_I am a mekon03:25
Sannetobias_: that's ok ;). I'm a half veggie with the occasional fish and milk, but I applaud you for being vegan.03:26
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tobias_sanne: cool :)03:26
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paul_tofu and soya ewww03:27
Sannetobias_: I also catch spiders and other critters and bring them outside :)03:27
tobias_sanne: you got viana cheese that melts! they dont sell it in norway...03:27
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tobias_sanne: me too!03:27
Sannetobias_: viana? What's that?03:27
tobias_sanne: its a german brand with the best burgers\soy products03:27
paul_although if i had to kill my own meat I would be a vegaterian03:28
Sannetobias_: really? I'm german, but haven't heard of them. Will investigate.03:28
tobias_sanne: its totally vegan and they also got the only vegan cheese i heard of that melts03:28
Sannetobias_: sounds good!03:28
intelikeyhmmm don't guess i'd be welcome in that circut.   (follower of nymrod, the mighty hunter)03:28
paul_But hey I think those animals died in vien if I didnt eat them03:28
tobias_sanne: Ive havent tried it cause they dont sell it in norway03:28
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Sannetobias_: http://www.viana.com/ :)03:29
tobias_sanne: but i reeeeally want that cheese, they got all the other stuff here03:29
tobias_sanne: yeah :)03:29
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tobias_sanne: tofuvillage!03:29
paul_the only meat a vegan can eat is plecenta03:29
paul_plecenta pie03:30
intelikey!language03:30
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:30
Sannetobias_: I'll check out my local health food store for viana products.03:30
Xal2lol03:30
tobias_sanne: you will love them guaranteed, and if u ever come to trondheim you should stop by at UFFA I make food there every wednesday and thursday :)03:31
Sannetobias_: haha will do :)03:31
Xal2Hmm that's disgusting. I feel that your comment was very family unfriendly.03:31
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Xal2I request that paul_ is banned from the channel for being familialy unfriendly >_<03:31
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paul_hmm I am merely stating fact in no way was any of my language offensive03:32
Sanneof course we are horribly off topic by now ;)03:32
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intelikeyahh that started about an hour ago03:32
tobias_;)03:32
paul_anyone compiled tork on kubuntu ?03:33
intelikeyi try not to !offtopic people unless there are others asking for help....03:33
faderhvalhow do i defrag on linux??03:33
Sanneintelikey: thank you :)03:34
intelikeyseems silly to me to have a silent channel and not be allowed to say som offtopic things.03:34
rexbronI have a question, how would I have my server at home ssh into my webserver and do an rsync backup and automate the whole process?03:34
intelikeysom ?03:34
intelikeysum ?03:34
intelikeysome  that's it.03:34
paul_some03:34
Sannefaderhval: you don't have to, generally03:34
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faderhvalits an NTFS drive03:34
intelikeyfaderhval do that from windows.03:35
faderhvali dont have windows...03:35
Sannefaderhval: you can't defrag ntfs from linux, as far as I know you shouldn't even try to write to it.03:35
intelikeyfaderhval then why the ntfs ?03:35
intelikey!ntfs03:35
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:35
paul_its ok to write to NTFS through samba though yes?03:36
intelikeypull the fuse on it.03:36
intelikey!fuse03:36
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:36
faderhvalbecause i have about 300gb of important work related data... and i just changed to linux 2 days ago havent had the chance to move the data yet :)03:36
faderhvali use the ntfs-3g driver to mount the NTFS drives03:36
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faderhvalthere have been no problems so far... but the write speed to the disks are a bit slow and on the NTFS-3g homepage they say a defrag might help :)03:38
paul_if its just DATA on NTFS then there wont be much need for defrag03:40
tobias_what is the "feisty fawn 7.04" release of ubuntu, is it out?03:40
faderhvaljust thought i would give it a try :)03:40
tobias_is ubuntu releasing stuff before kubuntu?03:41
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intelikeyfaderhval i wouldn't advise trusting important data to an ntfs that only linux accesses   you should try to impliment a plan to migrate that data to safer quarters.  i would sujest backups as well.  although 300g would take several dvd-r  one might be well advised to invest in a second hd.03:41
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faderhvalthe new drives are already orderd :)03:42
deemaanybody here use islsm?03:42
intelikeytobias_ kubuntu is ubuntu03:42
Sannetobias_: it's the next ubuntu version, due 04 2007 ;)03:42
tobias_ahh :D03:42
tobias_thanx03:42
tamacrackerislsm?03:43
Sannecan't pronounce it, won't use it (lol)03:43
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intelikeytobias_ kubuntu is ubuntu base with kde  xubuntu is ubuntu base with xfce4   ubuntu is ubuntu base with gnome       each having a selection of apps that "are supposed" to work well with the respective desktop environment.03:44
paul_I got a usb 2.0 ide h/d  caddy V good for backing up and tranfering data03:44
tamacrackerhow can it be both usb and ide?..03:45
Sannebut appearantly, it works: http://islsm.org/apache2-default/ (ROFL)03:45
tobias_intellikey: cool, I put xubuntu on this old computer at UFFA, cus the computer there sux, its mainly used for playing music for the cafe, and at home I got my computer with a kubuntu version that is nice, cus the ubuntu cd was scratchy03:45
tamacrackersanne... what is that?03:45
paul_it plugs into USB and accepts IDE drives03:45
intelikeytamacracker the usb cradle provides the ide interface.03:45
tamacrackeroh yeah03:46
Sannetamacracker: if I knew... deema asked about islsm03:46
tamacrackermake an internet03:46
tamacrackerinternal03:46
tamacrackerinto an external03:46
tamacrackergot it.03:46
tobias_intellikey; so im just using kubuntu cus its the first thing that struck me from the linux thingie, kind of like flypaper03:46
tobias_intellikey: but it rox03:46
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paul_also caddy better than a usb thumb drive for booting OS on USB03:47
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paul_amazed though at how cheap 2gb + thumb drives are, 29 in UK03:48
paul_I remeber storage being 1 per mb03:49
tamacrackerthat makes no sense.03:49
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intelikeytobias_ i use a p1-mmx 100mhz box with ubuntu base on it.  linux flys if you don't overload it with gui algarythms, even on older hardware.   i also have a nec ultra-lite versa notebook  486 dx  33mhz  with 16m ram 125m hdd   i installed linux on it too... :)03:49
tamacrackerso you're sayin at one point someone was payin 2,000 for a 2gb usb thumb drive?03:49
tobias_:D03:50
tobias_wow03:50
unix_infidelintelikey: LOL, most routers use half the power and are twice as powerful.03:50
paul_nahhh u couldnt buy  a drive that size back then  lol03:50
tobias_its been so long since i heard "486"03:50
tamacrackerlol tobias03:50
intelikey:)03:51
paul_hard drive was 1 per MB03:51
Sannebye all03:51
tobias_ye sanne03:51
tobias_+b03:51
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paul_moores law still holds true03:52
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intelikey+b sanne  ???  :)03:52
tobias_lol03:52
tobias_I meant "bye sanne"03:52
coreymon77!seen Lapper03:52
ubotuI last saw Lapper (n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper) 2h 29m 32s ago, quiting: "/'"03:52
tobias_not "ye sanne"03:52
intelikeyah :)03:52
iainI'm trying to burn a disc with very long file names.  How long can Windows read?03:52
paul_256 characters03:52
iainIf I choose the 103 chars option will it work?03:53
paul_probably03:53
iainOh, thanks03:53
unix_infideliain: you arent limited by what windwow can read its the max the cd can handle.03:53
intelikeyis it 256 for iso9660 ?03:53
shulmanhi all -- I came across a strange problem in OO Writer -- It doesn't seem to want to open whole RTF files that are very large. It will only read in the first 18k words.03:53
unix_infidelwindows*03:53
vieiraei03:54
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intelikeyi'd have to google it.  but don't want to.  i think iso9660 is where the limit comes in.03:54
vieirahow can i see a divx in kubuntu? how can i install the codecs?03:55
tobias_!divx03:55
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:55
vieirais it possible03:55
tobias_I use vlc03:55
intelikey100 or so limit or you break iso03:55
tobias_vieria: use adept to get "vlc", use vlc to view anything!03:55
paul_laws are meant to be broken :)03:55
tobias_vieria: at least I think so03:55
intelikeypaul but if you intend for other os's to read it you need to "NOT" break iso on it.03:56
tobias_wow I just discovered the "tab" function03:56
intelikeylol03:56
tobias_I can start the name of someone and then click tab03:57
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tobias_and there it will be03:57
intelikeytobias_ welcome to linux.  for my next trick....03:57
tobias_intelikey: thanx :D03:57
paul_i c thnx for info, your obviously a wiser man than I on these things03:57
intelikeytobias_ now open konsole, type upda   and hit tab two times.03:58
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tobias_intelikey: oki!03:59
paul_is it possible to hold a modicum of the sum knowledge of computers, its a vast subject, or does one strive to specialise rather than become a master of all03:59
tobias_intelikey: it went "BEEP!" and it says "update"03:59
intelikeytobias_ tab completion can be expanded greatly in the konsole but enabling bash_completion03:59
intelikeytobias_ but also gave a list of update-whats04:00
tobias_intelikey: hmmm, it didnt maybe something is strange04:00
paul_is a jack of all better than a master of non04:00
tobias_intelikey: nvm! it did!04:00
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paul_hmm04:00
intelikeytobias_ the list will be just above...04:00
tobias_intelikey: what do I do with them?04:01
paul_non=one04:01
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tobias_tobiwan :) nice nick04:01
tobias_err04:02
paul_obviously the town was not big enough fro the two of you04:02
intelikeytobias_ you would select the next char of the command you wanted and continue   it real handy on completing file names    example: cp /usr/share/doc/vi[tab] /chan[tab]  .   would expand the name of the file for you and help you find the change.log for vim       that's just an example.04:03
tobias_aha!04:03
tobias_thanx intelikey!!!04:03
tobias_wow it like completed your nick in the middle of the text i was writing04:03
trappistah, I remember the day I discovered tab completion04:04
tobias_T3hWiz0rd: Firetechc WerdnaDesktop Admiral_Chicago04:05
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tobias_Im completing all nicks!04:05
tobias_tab is nice04:06
intelikeytobias_ and if you enabled bash_completion even second stage completions work pertty well   example; modprobe snd-a[tab]   would list the sound drivers that begin with a  such as ac9704:06
tobias_how do i enable bash completion?04:07
intelikeyhelps in finding command options on some apps ...  very intuitive.04:07
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intelikeytobias_ for one user edit .bashrc  and if it doesn't already have it commented out then add  [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]  && . /etc/bash_completion       if it does have it just remove the # from in front of it.04:08
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intelikeytobias_ for system wide as root edit /etc/bash_bashrc     i think it is that ubntu uses still.04:09
T3hWiz0rdtobias_: ??04:09
skizzayI'm going crazy trying to get my ATI X1300 Video Card working.  Could anyone shine some light?04:09
paul_get nvidea?04:10
paul_j/k04:10
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T3hWiz0rdthat would be the best fix04:10
T3hWiz0rdlol04:10
skizzayI wish that was an option!04:10
T3hWiz0rduntil ati can stop saying f00k j00 to linux, say f00k j00 to ati04:10
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skizzayI'm missing my old nVidia card.04:10
T3hWiz0rdi personally think the linux kernel shouldn't boot for ati04:11
T3hWiz0rdlol04:11
T3hWiz0rdi think it should refuse to04:11
T3hWiz0rdit should pop up a nice little message that says "pssh nub, get nvidia"04:11
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd didn't amd buy ati ?04:11
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skizzayif( strcmp( video_card_vender, "ATI" ) ) detonate_iternal_bomb();04:11
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: does that really help ati at all?04:12
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: they're still not supporting linux properly yet.04:12
intelikeyit might.04:12
skizzayAMD now owns ATI.  I'm curious how this will play out in the future.04:12
T3hWiz0rdits simple... They're a monopoly now.04:12
T3hWiz0rdHigher cost, same shitty support (y)04:12
killswitch92ive never used linux stuff before, this is my 1st time so im a noob04:12
killswitch92linux doesnt open exe files does it :(04:12
T3hWiz0rd0.o04:13
skizzayATI has been pumping out their propriertary driver, but they always seem to have bugs.04:13
intelikeykillswitch92 in wine04:13
killswitch92?04:13
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skizzaykillswitch  "> man wine"04:13
intelikeyinstall wine.   and some .exe files are as simple as  wine filename.exe04:13
killswitch92can i open exe files?04:14
killswitch92where do i get it?04:14
skizzayYes, via wine04:14
intelikey!repos04:14
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:14
skizzayAdept04:14
intelikeykillswitch92  go read that ^04:14
tobias_T3hWiz0rd: just testing out tab!04:14
T3hWiz0rdis aptitude EVER going to replace apt?04:14
T3hWiz0rdhmmm04:14
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T3hWiz0rdtobias_: just testing out my wrist!04:14
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd not if i can help it.04:14
skizzayGUIs will never fully replace command line.04:15
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T3hWiz0rdaptitude isn't gui based really04:15
tobias_intelikey: sorry I was making me a ... cigarette. back now04:15
T3hWiz0rdit simply handles meta packages better04:15
killswitch92linux is complicated :(04:15
skizzayIt's a command line wrapper.04:15
killswitch92i never used it before lol04:15
intelikeyskizzay aptitude a gui ?04:15
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T3hWiz0rdaptitude should replace apt04:15
skizzayNevermind.  I'm thinking of something I've used in the past.04:15
intelikeyno04:15
T3hWiz0rdapt doesn't hnadle metapackages good04:15
T3hWiz0rdskizzay: adept? lol04:15
unix_infideli think good should replace well.04:16
vieiratobias_: problem solved thnks04:16
tobias_T3hWiz0rd: :D04:16
unix_infidelaccording to T3hWiz0rd04:16
tobias_vieira: cool :)04:16
unix_infidelhe's def the wizardz0r, fer shure.04:16
vieiratobias_: see u tomorow04:16
T3hWiz0rdunix_infidel: excuse me?04:16
paul_I am new to linux also and found downloading the source using make /configure / install  practically the same as clicking a exe except its like the old windows dll hell where as you have to install headers etc if not got04:16
skizzayHey!  Adept is very intuitive.04:16
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tobias_vieira: sleep tight:)04:16
T3hWiz0rdskizzay: i don't mind adept, I just wish aptitude would catch on better.04:16
vieira(Y)04:16
tobias_adept rox!04:17
T3hWiz0rdaptitude handles metapackages a little better04:17
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tobias_oh04:17
tobias_its even better, then I wnt it04:17
pablo7killswitch92: stick with adept if you can and search for wine then select to install.04:17
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd i've never noticed that apt had any trubble with vertual packages04:17
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: I have before04:17
T3hWiz0rdand for god sake will people stop encouraging the use of XGL/Beryl04:18
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd on what system ?04:18
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: kubuntu 5.604:18
T3hWiz0rdi think it was?04:18
T3hWiz0rd5.6?? can't remember04:18
T3hWiz0rdbeen a while04:18
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intelikeythere was no 5.604:18
T3hWiz0rdI haven't really been on debian distros thru the most of this year.04:18
intelikey5.4 ?04:18
T3hWiz0rdit was 5.-something douche lol04:18
T3hWiz0rdpossibly.04:18
paul_wine it seems to me though nvr hardly asupport many win applications,,,, bit of a hit n miss affair04:18
T3hWiz0rdlike I said I didn't use kubuntu thru most of 2006.04:19
T3hWiz0rdI didn't like 5.x of kubuntu, I felt it slow as schiza04:19
T3hWiz0rdso i swtiched to suse, which ended up crashing and burning, so i moved back.04:19
T3hWiz0rdplus i missed apt-get which 100% pwnz YaST package management.04:19
pablo7paul_: you got it, wine is beta.04:19
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intelikeyi got 5.4 as soon as it shipped and never changed to 5.10 went streight to 6.6   never noticed any problem with vertual packages.   also used apt almost exclusively.04:20
skizzaywine is always in beta.04:20
tobias_intelikey: the guy who introduced me to kubuntu also introduced my kubuntu to bash completion he says :)04:20
paul_vm is best if you got rescources imo04:20
pablo7skizzay: wine was alpha.04:21
intelikeytobias_ kold as dry ice :)04:21
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: i just didn't hav a good experience with 5.404:22
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: both in the community and with the distro's rigging of kde.04:22
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd i know this is *buntu channel  but honestly i thought all the hype was in vain.  *buntu hasn't proven any better than any other distro to me.  but it's linux, and i like linux.04:23
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: its advertisement really. It has the best of any other distro.04:24
intelikeythat it does.04:24
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T3hWiz0rdadvertisement can make anything seem better.04:24
T3hWiz0rdI Could sell you a bag of dog crap if i had a billionare backing me on my advertisement of how great my bag of dogcrap is.04:25
intelikeynow lets quit bashing the distro in the distro's official channel....04:25
dragonfly7intelikey: I have never used anything else, but the thing I like best is the forum community that takes the time to provide so many excellent walkthroughs.04:25
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: i like the distro :-)04:25
skizzayTh3Wiz0rd: But the advertisement also brings in more support to develop a better product.04:25
T3hWiz0rdi just like the name of it lol04:25
T3hWiz0rdKubuntu. It sounds catchy04:25
pablo7it sounds ku.04:25
T3hWiz0rdskizzay: yes but a lot of projects in *buntu really aren't ubuntu specific.04:25
intelikeyskizzay brings in more "krap" also....04:25
T3hWiz0rdUbuntu's greatest advantage is its a debian distro... and Debian distros have the most packages of any other linux OS04:26
skizzayThere's never enough "krap" on any system...04:26
intelikeylol04:26
T3hWiz0rdkrap is like woman. You need some04:26
ironfroggyanyone know where i could get python2.5 debs that would work on dapper?04:26
intelikey</chuckels>04:26
skizzayAnd feels really good to get rid of it.04:26
Amorityim sorry this is random but I love Kubuntu/Ubuntu04:27
T3hWiz0rdskizzay: seriously now krap is REALLY like a woman. its never gone.04:27
T3hWiz0rdAmority: I love you...04:27
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skizzayI guess you're right...they're always up your butt.04:28
T3hWiz0rdskizzay: nah you're doing it wrong if they're up YOUR butt.. supposed to be the other way man04:28
tobias_what is krap really?04:28
intelikeyguys be heave04:28
LeeJunFankrap would be a kde rap utility right? :p04:29
Amoritylol T3hWiz0rd04:29
skizzaylol04:29
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T3hWiz0rddon't tell me to behave you aint my mother i drowned her in the bathtub04:29
ironfroggyi know i can get 2.5 from edgy, but i already broke one box running the upgrade to edgy and im afraid to do the same to the other just yet.04:29
tobias_T3hWiz0rd: I support the right of all living to choose whichever way they wish to live, if they're up your xxxx and you like it, its okay!04:29
skizzayironfroggy:  why do you need v2.5?04:29
T3hWiz0rdtobias_: don't make me backhand the christian bible into you boy :-P lol jk04:30
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tobias_T3hWiz0rd: ;) please do!04:30
tobias_T3hWiz0rd: oh, I thought you would merely spank me with it04:31
tobias_nvm04:31
justyb11Hi everyone.04:31
LeeJunFannow that's what you call bible thumping.04:31
tobias_Im gonna be quiet in a corner now04:31
tobias_just realised the family friendly thingie04:31
T3hWiz0rdlmfao...04:31
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ironfroggyskizzay: for development purposes.04:31
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skizzayironfroggy: Have you tried building them from scratch?04:33
intelikeysee i think all the ops were very tollerant that time.  don't you?    big hand of applause for the ops .....  </claps>04:33
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T3hWiz0rdintelikey: what do you mean?04:33
ironfroggyskizzay: no. i was taking that as a last resort. i was sure there were backports.04:34
intelikeynothing T3hWiz0rd if you have to ask......04:34
skizzayLinux for Dummy?  Real mean get Learn Linux in 24 Hours...04:34
T3hWiz0rdkubuntu ops are like abusive cops. Always beating the minorities.04:34
robotgeekplease keep topics in this room ontopic04:34
tobias_kops04:34
tobias_sorry04:34
robotgeektobias_: yes, they are actually called that, lol04:34
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T3hWiz0rdthey were pseudo-on-topic04:35
tobias_hehehe04:35
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tobias_Im trying to laugh silently cause there are people sleeping in the next room, its very difficult t04:35
skizzayironfroggy: I'm not sure what's available on dapper (I went from breezy to edgy), but if they're not available, then you shouldn't try using the package from edgy.04:35
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ironfroggyskizzay: i wont. im just worried to try and actually update to edgy on this machine. broke the other one.04:36
intelikeychickens don't koo they kluck04:36
skizzayironfroggy: I think it would be best to just build from scratch (never really hurts).04:36
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: you're not touching it right04:36
tobias_rofl04:36
pablo7do most people here just use konqueror or install firefox after an upgrade?04:37
paul_Y does free node ubuntu ban tor and hidden services? or at least a ssl capable irc channel04:37
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tobias_please people stay on topic, I cant stop laughing04:37
skizzayfirefox for inet...konqueror for file browser04:37
intelikeypaul_ freenode's policy is or at least was to NOT ban tor04:37
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skizzayKonqueror + Kaffeine = Easy Porn Library Maintenance!!!04:38
robotgeekpaul_: you might want to take that up in #ubuntu-ops04:38
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pablo7skizzay: same here, I like how konqueror handle /media devices but prefer firefox for browsing.04:38
intelikeypaul_ if #*buntu is banning tor it's probably because of all the abuse.  scripts hammer that channel  relentlessly04:39
skizzayfirefox's add-ons are so awesome.  I installed the Crystal Theme to make look like Konqueror.04:40
AmorityI installed firefox04:40
skizzayPlus, it's a common browser among Windows, Mac, *nix environments, which is important for me because I pretty much use all of them.04:41
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pablo7skizzay: that's a new one.  i use the pwdhash add-on to manage passwords like KWallet.04:41
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intelikeyskizzay congrats, confession is a good step in over comming that addiction.    now just remember you don't really need windows  :)04:42
skizzaySweet!  I'll have to try that b/c I love KWallet.04:42
skizzayActually, it's at work (but I often bring in the Edgy Live CD and use that for general browsing).04:43
paul_I run through my neighbours wifi (with his permission) so using tor was a good solution except #ubuntu bans tor and the hidden service and stunnel does not work becuase there is no ssl channel04:43
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robotgeekpaul_: i belive freenode does not support ssl yet04:43
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paul_nope robotgeek it dont :(04:43
intelikeynot yet ?   may never.04:44
paul_Y not though?/04:44
pablo7skizzay: with pwdhash you can pick a master password and use the extension to hash what you type to log-in on a site.04:44
intelikeypaul_ ssl is generally not needed/desired for irc04:44
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intelikeynothing "secure" about irc.04:45
skizzaypablo:  Does it have a max length for passwords?04:45
intelikeythere is always a max length....04:46
T3hWiz0rdrobotgeek: you know you were cool back when you used to listen to my radio maybe you need msuic again04:46
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pablo7skizzay: it increases the length/strength of your master password, but as you probably know some site's require weak/short passwords.04:47
intelikey65385 is long but still a max...04:47
klerfaythey; can I acces ldap with konqueror?04:47
skizzayklerfayt:  Yes!04:47
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klerfaytskizzay: ok what I have to install?04:48
skizzayI believe   ldap:// will work, if you have that installed.04:48
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pablo7skizzay: the other thing i like konqueror for is man2html with man:04:48
robotgeekpablo7: also apt :)04:48
skizzayApt in konqueror?04:49
robotgeekit also does beagle, and a bunch of other things04:49
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intelikeydoes  info to04:49
robotgeekskizzay: yes, for package search04:49
BluesKajanyone here using google earth?04:49
skizzayFor packages installed or to download?04:49
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intelikeyskizzay in the repos04:50
robotgeekskizzay: installed, and ones in the repos. (i belive it is a apt-cache search equivalent)04:50
pablo7robotgeek: i always use apt at the console, how does it fix problems in konqueror?04:50
skizzayA guy I work with installed Kubuntu on a micro PC and put google earth in it.  He hooked up an LCD and uses it as a Nav/MP3 system.04:50
robotgeekpablo7: nope, you can't use it to install. only search04:50
intelikeypablo7 it's just apt-cache  not  apt-get04:51
pablo7robotgeek: gotcha.04:51
skizzayBut you could search the repos?04:51
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pablo7intelkey: i think i'll stick with adept.04:51
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intelikeyskizzay that's what apt-cache does.04:51
WerdnaDesktopgrr04:51
WerdnaDesktopsomebody pang me04:51
omarhello, I got this problem with my frostwire, it just doesn't open04:52
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skizzayRight, but it doesn't update then?04:52
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intelikey 0.948 seconds04:52
skizzayi.e. No equivalent to apt-get update04:52
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intelikeyskizzay that's the updater in the task bar04:53
intelikeyWerdnaDesktop use punctuation next time.04:53
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Sheazschehow can i use wpa with kubuntu?04:54
Sheazscheit says the wpa supplicant is installed!??! but i cannot find the .conf file04:54
intelikey!wpa04:54
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:54
robotgeekdoesn't network manager handle it automagically. i've never had to opportunity to use wpa04:55
T3hWiz0rdrobotgeek: remember me? :-)_04:55
robotgeekT3hWiz0rd: i still have your number, lol04:55
T3hWiz0rdmy cell #?04:55
T3hWiz0rdahh that changed ages ago, I'll have to give you the updated one04:55
T3hWiz0rdlol04:55
robotgeeki would guess so, unless you changed it :)04:55
T3hWiz0rdyeah, i went with a new carrior and dumped my number.04:55
robotgeekcool04:56
Sheazschethe file /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf DOES NOT EXIST04:56
yorikkthen make one, Sheazsche04:56
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Amorityjust wondering but how many people are still using dapper?04:56
intelikey04:57
klerfaytdoes ldap://ldap.sk.ee work for someone?04:57
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robotgeekAmority: me04:57
intelikey!poll04:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about poll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:57
pablo7Amority: still have dapper on the family desktop.04:57
skizzayklerfayt:  http://en.opensuse.org/Konqueror_Tips_and_Tricks04:57
klerfaytskizzay: I got this working ldap://ldap.services.wisc.edu/dc=wisc,dc=edu04:58
Amorityok just wondering so I know I can still get some good support. I have dapper still04:58
klerfaytso I guess ldap works by default in edgy;konqueror04:58
intelikey!lts | Amority04:58
ubotuAmority: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.04:58
Amority:D 3 years! versus 18 months of every other release?04:59
LeeJunFanany bets on my system getting hosed as I upgrad 725 packages from dapper to feisty? hehe04:59
intelikeyAmority yes04:59
Amorityok thanks04:59
intelikeyLeeJunFan i'll take a fiver that it does....04:59
intelikey:)05:00
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intelikeyonly questions will be, how bad, and can you fix it....05:01
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LeeJunFanOwell, I got dapper backed up in case of the worst.05:01
yorikki think it'll be fine, Lee05:01
LeeJunFanI don't suspect too bad. I've got my own kernel, so as long as init and libc are good I should be able to rescue anything else :)05:02
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yorikki went from debian/sarge to sid in one leap on my laptop05:02
intelikeyedgy doesn't use SysVinit  it uses upstart.....05:02
LeeJunFanI wouldn't be nervous really if it weren't for this system not have been fresh installed since hoary.05:03
LeeJunFanAnd I've got a ton of packages installed, although what really brings my count up is devel libs and such.05:03
intelikeyi upgraded from hoary to dapper without "much" trubble.05:03
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intelikeybase only.   removed all non-esentials upgraded and installed what i wanted.05:05
intelikeytried it once with that.... hehhe  it broke dpkg.05:05
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BluesKajdarn google earth overlay keeps refresing every2 secs ...very annoying ..any ideas?05:06
LeeJunFanas long as the system can start with X I can still get what I need done, I can always vmware off my backed up dapper.05:06
intelikeyBluesKaj never seen google earth.05:06
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BluesKajbummer05:07
intelikeyLeeJunFan X is one thing that will get hosed.  according to what i've seen in here.  that's the major sore spot for this upgrade.05:07
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah, figures. hehe05:08
intelikeyLeeJunFan you know console and irssi well enough to get here in the dark ?05:08
LeeJunFanI didn't even notice if X is running a snapshot or not.05:08
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joshua__hey05:09
joshua__hehe05:09
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah. I'm sure I can figure it out. With libc6 being upgraded though I won't be able to revert to dapper packages. most likely.05:09
intelikeymost likely05:10
LeeJunFanbinary incompatible I bet.05:10
intelikeyon some. yes.05:10
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=== intelikey waits for the day when libc can be installed along side......
LeeJunFanyeah, been waiting for that for 15 years :)05:11
LeeJunFanPersonally only 9-10 years myself.05:11
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intelikeyeasy big boy...   15 years ago where was linux ?05:11
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LeeJunFanI do like some of the new features being touted for the next X. I had to use a projector today on my laptop, seems lame to have to restart X to get the 2nd video out port working.05:12
Dr_willisI was using my amiga and Minix back then. :)05:12
LeeJunFanDr_willis: me too :)05:12
LeeJunFanlet see, 91. That would have been either my A500 or A3000.05:12
Dr_willisI had an A1200 :)05:14
Dr_willisand several 500's05:14
Dr_willisstill do actually. :)05:14
LeeJunFanI had a 1200 but that came for me around 95 or so.05:14
klerfaytis there a way to install minimal gnome; not "ubuntu"05:15
Grigorgeoushello, i need to unrar an 115 M sized file and I'm unable to do it since I'm on edgy eft. unrar-free doesn't work. Somebody have an idea?05:16
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Dr_willisGrigorgeous,  it dont? it worked for me i thought.05:16
LeeJunFan!rar-nonfree05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rar-nonfree - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
Dr_willisGrigorgeous,  or use wine and winrar.exe05:16
Grigorgeousok Dr_willis, I'll try05:17
Dr_willisive been able to extract rars under edgy with the command line tools.05:17
Grigorgeousshould I download winrar from amule, official site or how?05:18
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Dr_willisconsidering how its a free download/demo :)05:19
GrigorgeousI don't understand05:19
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Dr_williswhy would you use amule? go to the web site.. download it.05:19
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Dr_willisits got a free demo for 30 days, then becomes nagware.05:19
asterguys, kde 3.5.2 with 512 mg ram, It is not enough??05:20
LeeJunFanDr_willis: yeah, but if you just use the shell menus (right click) and not open the acutal winrar program you never see them. :)05:20
Dr_willisaster,  should work. Ive ran it on less. :) but more memory is always better05:21
Dr_willisLeeJunFan,  actually i tend to use 7zip more and more..05:21
LeeJunFanaster: my kids computer has 192M running 3.5.5, plays DVD's and games fine, Beryl is a bit much.05:21
asteri have no more moemory05:21
asterxfce would be better isn't it?05:21
Dr_willisswap space. :)05:21
Dr_willisxfce is lighter. yes.. more minimal window managers exist also.05:22
aster---i mean, now i hardly have some memory free05:22
Dr_willisdepends on how mych of a full desktop you want.05:22
asterrunning OO and amarok05:22
klerfaytLeeJunFan: don't let kids play games on computer; learn them how to hack :D05:22
Dr_willisOO is a huge memory slurper. :)05:22
LeeJunFanoo is crap.05:22
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intelikeyi do run kde on a p1 with 128m ram    no swap   works fine   just have to not try too many things at once.05:22
LeeJunFanklerfayt: my 7 year old, and he installed edgy himself.05:23
LeeJunFan:)05:23
SperMite= 005:23
LeeJunFanklerfayt: I'm going to start teching him python soon.05:23
intelikeyhave ran it on 64m  but thats tight.  some apps wont run.05:23
SperMitehows edgy coming along?05:23
asteri need something fast and eye candy :P05:23
LeeJunFanfine, I'm installing feisty on my laptop as I speak.05:24
intelikeySperMite their finished a month ago with it.05:24
asterso I can impress my windows friends05:24
Ash-FoxI never got the whole "impress my windows friends" thing.05:25
intelikeyaster why ?05:25
intelikeyme too05:25
Dr_willisImpress them with your huge. massive, uptime. :)05:25
SperMiteyou can impress windows users with a knoppix disk05:25
asterso they quit windows and use linux05:25
Ash-Foxaster, not going to happen.05:25
Dr_willisthen they expect you to be their tech support....05:25
intelikeyaster you're spitting in the wind.05:25
Dr_willisand  it sucks explaining over and over why linux is not windows. :)05:26
asterjajaja05:26
Dr_williswhen they dont want to learn05:26
asterDr_willis: thats right05:26
Ash-Foxjajaja? jar jar binks?05:26
asterbut, i have to try05:26
asterajjaaja means lol in spanish05:26
pablo7anyone support the LoCo teams?05:26
asterhahaha05:26
aster:P05:26
LeeJunFanyeah, and as soon as they can't run some IE only game on yahoo or can't run FEAR they hate it.05:27
asterLeeJunFan: true05:27
asterwell, i have all ubuntus live cds05:27
asterso, i giving my try05:27
Dr_willisThres better live cds out then the kbuntu/ubuntu ones. :)05:28
intelikeyprezactly.   i know people that the onlything they ever do with a computer is some flash page that requires the latest version so you can listen to a demo of something they call music.....   i'm like "buy a radio!"05:28
intelikeyor get a life.  even.05:29
Ash-FoxOr let them use windows.05:29
SperMiteI have the live cds personally. I rather use the alternate install cd05:29
intelikeyoh i do.   i don't even bother mentioning that there is another os.05:29
intelikeySperMite no doubt05:30
Ash-Foxintelikey, same here, although people get confused when they see my laptop, it's amusing :P05:30
pablo7intelikey: good points.05:30
Ash-Fox"Wait.. But your laptop isn't apple" "No." "Wait, this is windows?" "No."05:30
asterguys, edgy is stable?05:31
Rawrnessdepends on hardware05:31
Dr_willisI find edgy stable.05:31
RawrnessIf its supported yes05:31
RawrnessIf its not.....05:31
Rawrnessmaybes05:31
intelikeyaster depends on your definition of stable    but short answer is    yes.05:31
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SperMiteI'm have tempted to install kubuntu on my laptop but its X2 64m And i hate to have to do everything differen't I get to confused =(05:32
Dr_willisdifferent?05:32
SperMitedon't you have to use different installs?05:32
intelikeySperMite dual 64 bit cpu's ?05:33
Dr_williswhy would you. :)05:33
pablo7RE: advocacy-- the focus has shifted from the OS as a platform to the web browser.05:33
SperMiteintelikey yep05:33
Dr_willisI use the alt install 32bit cd on my 64bit desktop and 64bit laptop.. since i dont want to use the 64bit version of the disrto.05:33
intelikeyyou could use i686 smp   32bit05:34
SperMiteDr_willis hmm.. hows that work?05:34
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duweihi everyone!05:34
Dr_willisSperMite,  no problems whatso ever.05:35
duweiI have a question05:35
intelikeyi don't know how well 32bit smp will work with dual 64's ..... someone that has it will have to take that up.05:35
SperMiteDr_willis ima have to test it out then =)05:35
Dr_willisi find the 64bit disrtos to be more hassle then they are worth.. for my needs05:35
intelikeyDr_willis you have dual core ?05:36
duweiCould someone tell me how to set up WPA_supplicant?05:36
intelikeyDr_willis i should say smp ?05:36
LeeJunFanokay, all packages upgraded. Lets see if I'm back in 2 mins  or less :)05:37
intelikeydr ?          testing.... "thump  thump  <sqeel>"  is this thing working ?05:37
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SperMitelol05:38
intelikeySperMite you can help him get X working.05:39
intelikeyafter the upgrade.05:39
intelikeythat he just did.05:39
intelikey!enter | intelikey05:39
ubotuintelikey: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.05:39
SperMitewhats wrong with X?05:39
intelikeynothing i hope....   we'll see.05:40
SperMiteright on05:40
intelikeyor rather you will.  i wont be here but not for that reason.  i have to go.05:40
SperMiteok05:40
SperMitelater man05:40
intelikeyk gnight all.05:40
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SperMiteleejunfun you made it back05:42
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LeeJunFanSperMite: yeah, I feel like I won something :)05:42
SperMite=)05:43
LeeJunFanNow I can contribute to the bug squashing. I was lazy thru edgy's devel cycle, first time in a long time I wasn't running devel version.05:43
Dr_willisheh05:44
LeeJunFanI didn't even have to recompile beryl05:44
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tanlaan_hello everyone05:59
tanlaan_ive now decided to find out whether i want OS 9 or Kubuntu06:00
tanlaan_atm i have Kubuntu installed, and it seems that it doesnt work at its peak performance06:00
RawrnessThen Abuse it.06:00
tanlaan_in OS9 everything is obviously made specifically for my imac g306:01
tanlaan_i have 192 mb or ram and a 7 gig hd06:01
RawrnessI wonders why ........06:01
d0m1n8rLOL06:01
tanlaan_linux and OS9 take up around the same amount of space on the harddrive so thats not a problem06:01
tanlaan_also i can get up to flash 6 with os9 unlike linux where i cant get any form of it06:01
tanlaan_anyone wanna input?06:02
d0m1n8rflash 9 I believe is on linux06:02
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tanlaan_not for ppc06:02
tanlaan_ppc + linux = not compatible in any form with flash06:02
d0m1n8rppc best on OSX06:02
d0m1n8rI C06:02
tanlaan_dont have a copy of osx on hand06:03
d0m1n8rgo OSX06:03
tanlaan_otherwise i would try it06:03
d0m1n8rah06:03
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d0m1n8rG3 is like 500Mhz right?06:03
d0m1n8r=\06:03
tanlaan_350 >.<06:04
d0m1n8rouch06:04
tanlaan_still compatible with osx, everything has to be turned off though06:04
tanlaan_lol06:04
RawrnessI want a Os that you just plugin VMmachines06:04
d0m1n8rVMWare?06:04
Dr_willisHuh,06:05
Dr_willisI use vmware all the time. its handy.06:05
d0m1n8ryes very06:05
tanlaan_im confused, what are vmmachines and vmware06:05
Rawrnessyep i just need more ram06:05
Dr_willis!vmware06:05
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare06:05
RawrnessVmware is a OS emu .06:05
Dr_willisvmware lets you have virtual machines on the same machine.06:05
d0m1n8rGonna need to open up the wallet and buy a whole new machine06:06
Dr_willis I use it a lot to test out live cd's06:06
d0m1n8rI use it a tone to run every version of windows06:06
d0m1n8rcouple linux installs06:06
Dr_willisor put windows98 in a vmware session. :) to run the 1 or 2 windows apps i need.06:06
Dr_williswhich i rarely need to do any more06:06
RawrnessI wonder......06:06
RawrnessStreaming music in linux is horrid.06:07
Rawrnesscasting*06:07
Dr_willisnever noticed Rawrness ,06:07
Dr_willisThen again - i never want to stream music.....06:07
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d0m1n8rLinux sux.. nuf said.. slap in the OS9 cd ;)06:08
tanlaan_lmao06:08
tanlaan_hahaha06:08
Kotetsurofl06:08
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tanlaan_was not expecting that in a kubuntu channel06:08
d0m1n8r=)06:08
RawrnessNever underestamate the apple fanboyishness06:08
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Kotetsudefinately not xD06:09
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d0m1n8rwell kinda see where its going06:09
d0m1n8rjust trying to skip to the end of the story06:09
jjessestupid question how do i get dvd playback working in kubuntu edgy?06:09
Dr_willis!dve06:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dve - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:09
Dr_willis!dvd06:09
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages06:09
wordwhat's a command that shows your processor type?06:09
Hawkwindword: cat /proc/cpuinfo06:10
Dr_willislook in /proc/cpuinfo06:10
Admiral_Chicagodid LP just go down?06:11
jjesseDr_willis: does that work for kaffien?06:11
tanlaan_ok i guess im gonna go instll OS 9 lmao06:11
wordThanks Hawkwind06:11
Dr_willisjjesse,  no clue.. i cant rember the last time i actually played a dvd. :)06:11
Dr_willisi rip them to avi.06:11
jjessebummer i'm stuck overnight in an airport and rented a dvd to wathc06:12
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Dr_willisYou got network connection? install the dvd codec/libdvdcss then06:13
Dr_willisor the other stuff to play them.06:13
Dr_willis!info dvd::rip06:14
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ubotudvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB06:14
d0m1n8radios tanlaan06:14
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d0m1n8rIs there a page some where out there you can just get every propertary codec at06:15
Hawkwind!codecs | d0m1n8r06:16
ubotud0m1n8r: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:16
d0m1n8rgracias!06:16
Sheazscheinstalled knetwork manager, now i have to enter a password everytime i boot06:17
Sheazschevery annoying06:17
SperMiteI hear my bios fan giving away, I know its near its last spin =(06:18
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zodiakI tried a new sources.list, it had some experimental packages.  It borked some of my stuff (specifically wireless).  I put my old sources.list in place.  Is there an easy way to downgrade all affected packages?06:23
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draikI can't seem to get Frostwire to run. My cursor icon bounces, but it never runs06:28
draikany clues?06:28
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draikjava is up to date, BTW06:28
HawkwindFrostwire is junk.  Use something better06:28
draikHawkwind: What do you recommend?06:29
Hawkwinddraik: Depends on what you are using it for.  For torrents, ktorrent, rtorrent, bittorrent.  If you want music files, torrent sites or irc.undernet.org in #Mp3_Collective06:29
HawkwindYou'll find that p2p apps are horribly coded at best and are next to impossible to troubleshoot.  They are there to give users a headache basically and nothing less06:30
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draikHawkwind: Just for music. I had it working with dapper, but now I'm all out of places to search for help06:30
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Hawkwinddraik: p2p apps SUCK!  Stay away from them06:31
draikHawkwind: 10-406:31
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crazy_busHawkwind, what's wrong with p2p apps in your opinion?06:32
Hawkwindcrazy_bus: Read above, I stated that06:32
crazy_busok, I didn't see above06:33
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darkangelsoomeone could help I can't join to ubuntu channel, this show me a message that I need to identify myself06:34
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darkangelI wanna know where I can get quick time for ubuntu06:34
macaber06:35
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macaber06:35
Hawkwindmacaber: English only here please06:35
Hawkwindcrazy_bus: [11:30pm]  {-Hawkwind-} You'll find that p2p apps are horribly coded at best and are next to impossible to troubleshoot.  They are there to give users a headache basically and nothing less06:36
Healotswitch to English input, macaber... kap khun06:36
draikHawkwind: How do I do a search for music on there?06:36
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scorp007which package contains OpenGL headers/dev files?06:38
RawrnessUse Utorrent with wine!!!06:38
Hawkwinddraik: Read the /topic in the channel and it will help you06:39
CVirus!nickname06:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nickname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:45
CVirus!register06:45
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration06:45
CVirusdarkangel: ^06:45
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battousaix19could i ask if there are any p2p prgrams youd suggest??06:50
battousaix19since frostwore aint playing nice06:50
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ricuchohello06:51
ricuchodoes anyone have much experience w/ synergy?06:52
RawrnessTORRENT RAID!!06:52
ricuchohuh?06:53
ricuchoiptables?06:54
e3ok hmm06:57
e3kubuntu here i come..06:58
e3*notices mez is in here*06:58
Meze3, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskto06:59
Meze3, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:59
Mezthat will install kubuntu06:59
e3i think i did that...the computer even showed the kubuntu loading screen...and i chose kde...06:59
Mezit'll ask if you want kdm or gdm as your default, select kdm06:59
e3i did select kde. but it loaded gnome.06:59
Mezo_O06:59
RawrnessSduo apt-get install Kde-core :P07:00
e3i downloaded the 4gb kubuntu image, i think im going to totally wipe this partition and install kubuntu fresh....07:00
e3raweness will that work for me?07:00
e3what is kde core?07:01
Mezkde core is the core kde packages :D07:01
Mez!info kde-core07:01
ubotukde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB07:01
e3wow thats tiny.07:01
Mez;)07:01
e3i want all the nifty stuff on the 4gb dvd... will the core thinger let me do that07:01
Mezit depends on a lot of stuff07:01
MezDepends: arts (>= 1.4.2), kdebase (>= 4:3.4.3), kdelibs (>= 4:3.4.3)07:02
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Mezkdebase = a lot of stuff07:02
e3im not sure what that meant07:02
e3is kde base and kde core different..07:03
Mezkdebase and kdecore are all part of kde07:03
ricuchohello, can anyone help me synergy?07:03
e3i dont mind downloading a huge amount of stuff, i think i already did anyway... i just want it to boot correctly into kde07:03
Mezyou need both to install07:03
Mezricucho, huh ?07:03
Rawrnesscore runs faster though07:04
Meze3, when you're in the login screen, click the lil document, and select seeion type -> kdm07:04
MezRawrness, core = base, core needs base to run07:04
ricucholooks like the iptables is blocking the client from conecting to the server07:04
e3I'll try that....07:04
Meze3, that works for me ;)07:04
e3ty <307:04
Mez(though i usually select "Beryl" from there ;)07:05
e3now if only you can also help me get unbanned from the stupid #ubuntu-offtopic ; )07:05
d0m1n8rweird.. trying to burn a cd and have 2 cd-roms.. one is not a burner and understandably doesnt list in k3b07:05
ricuchoanyone know how I can add the hostname of the server to the iptables?07:05
Meze3, pm me07:05
d0m1n8rbut k3b is trying to use it to burn rather then the burner =\07:05
RawrnessHow did you manage to get banned from offtopic?07:05
e3im not sure how to pm07:06
e3mez can you pm me07:06
Meze3 i did already07:06
e3oh i see it now :p07:07
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robbie_I am BRAND new to this...is anyone in here?07:18
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scorp007which package contains the manpages for OpenGL?07:20
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Admiral_Chicagoi'm trying to install libxine-extracoders and i keep getting a "no install candidate" ellol07:32
Admiral_Chicagoerror*07:32
defrysk!info libxine-extracoders07:33
ubotuPackage libxine-extracoders does not exist in any distro I know07:33
defrysktry libxine-extracodecs07:33
Admiral_Chicagothat's what i mean07:34
Admiral_Chicagoit won't install07:34
defryskin other words , try a spellcheck07:34
defrysk!info libxine-extracodecs07:34
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB07:34
defryskopen multiverse in your repository07:34
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defryskand try again07:34
Admiral_Chicagothats not the problem, i know the codec, i know when to install it, i've helped people install it many times07:35
Admiral_Chicagobut it won't install07:35
defryskAdmiral_Chicago, got some alien repos ?07:35
Admiral_Chicagono, all standard repos07:35
defryskwell if you have no installation candidate then you must have something wrong in your repos , sorry07:36
Admiral_Chicagoit says the package is not available but reffered to by another package07:36
Admiral_Chicagohmm yea i don't have multiverse07:37
Admiral_Chicagoi could have sworn i had them07:37
Admiral_Chicagothanks07:37
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corvolino/fullname bah07:41
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corvolinoalgum brasileiro ?07:42
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omarhello, I have a big trouble with my firefox, it just get close, without any reason07:42
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omarcorvolino , eu falo portuguez mas eu sou do Peru07:45
incredimanguys07:45
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SperMitewhy am i always getting * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...       [fail] 07:46
incredimani get the error tht i nid to be identified to enter07:46
[Nige] hi all07:46
[Nige] I am trying to do this: http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2418/networkcj1.png07:47
[Nige] but i am having problems getting things like msn to work07:47
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incredimanpls help me enter #ubuntu channel07:48
incredimanI get the error  msg tht i have to be identified to enter07:48
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ArrenLexSince I installed kde 3.5.5, whenever I close a window, the taskbar turns into a weird dark pattern for half a second instead of disappearing cleanly. Is this a known issue?07:55
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ArrenLextaskbar button for the application which is closed *07:56
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momalIs the cpu mhz in kinfocenter>processor correct? because it says 1000.000 and i have a amd x2 4200+ so i think it should be running around 2000mhz at least. if it is correct how can i boost it up?08:04
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e3Help... I installed this from add/remove in kubuntu... but it wont run... Democracy Player flashes then goes away. How do I make it run.08:15
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Linux_Galoree3: I have a feeling you need java setup08:19
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Linux_Galoreaaah no you need python and some gtk stuff08:21
bulwynklscreen resolution question... used to have higher resolutions available... now not. editing xorg.conf not helped.08:22
bulwynklkubuntu 6.10 (dual boot WinXP - for work - don ask)08:23
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defryskbulwynkl, using nvdia driver ?08:23
bulwynklrecently installed video card with TVout (nvidia Gforce4 MX440), old video was on-board (presume AGP also)08:24
bulwynklcurrently kubuntu nv driver - automatix getting new drivers now...08:24
defryskbulwynkl, try them first08:24
defryskautomatix ?08:24
defryskargh!08:24
bulwynklOK.08:24
bulwynkl(sits twiddling thumbs)08:25
defryskwhy automatix ?08:25
defryskit ruins your setup08:25
bulwynklhow so?08:25
defrysk!automatix08:26
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.08:26
defryskthats why08:26
bulwynklOK, better suggestion?08:26
defryskyes08:26
bulwynkleasylinux perhaps?08:26
defryskread the docs on the ubuntupages08:26
defryskand install them properly08:26
defryskeasylinux seems a bit safer to use08:27
defrysk!easylinux08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easylinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
defryskhmz08:27
e3I type JAVA in add/remove and it doesnt show anything.................08:27
e3Is java really all i need....08:28
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e3(im trying to run democracy player btw)08:28
defryskwhats a democracy player ?08:28
defryska java app ?08:28
e3Democracy TV Player is a television show downloader, its awesome, and works fine in GNOME. i dont know if it uses java..problebly...08:29
e3i need java anyhow. how do i get that?08:29
defryskit does not use java08:29
defryskits gtk+ based08:29
e3ok so i need some kinda gtk+ library...i guess..?08:29
defrysksudo apt-get install democracyplayer08:30
defryskyou did that ?08:30
e3well..i went to add/remove.08:30
e3i installed it from addremove08:30
defrysk!info democracyplayer08:30
ubotudemocracyplayer: GTK+ based RSS video aggregator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 480 kB, installed size 2984 kB08:30
defryskalso install democracyplayer-data08:30
defryskif its not there yet08:31
e3i guess they were there. it says 0 added.08:31
e3i could try removing democracy and reinstalling..08:32
defryskand it does not work ?08:32
defryskit does not open ?08:32
e3correct08:32
e3it flashes on the screen and goes away. an hour ago when i ran gnome, democracy player ran awesome.08:32
defryskah08:32
e3i since completely uninstalled gnome and installed democracy player08:33
defryskpossibly a bug08:33
e3on kubuntu08:33
defryskreport it as a bug08:33
e3i wanted so bad to do a fresh install of kubuntu 4gb dvd but i cant get it to burn...08:33
defryskwhy the dvd ?08:33
defryskwhats the point ?08:34
e3im not sure, i guess bigger is better?08:34
defryskno08:34
e3i want lots of stuff so i can weed through it and see what i like without having to do installations08:34
e3but hey if i can get this install to function right, im happy08:34
defryskwell it sounds like a bug to me so i would report it as it does not run in kde08:35
e3where do i go for reportign08:35
defryskgood plan :)08:35
e3i really love democracy player...i need it...so i guess i'll add it to the list of things i can only run on my work (windows) machine...08:36
defryskoooh08:36
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e3i dont mean to frighten anyone with that kinda language08:36
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defryskoh no08:36
Joelhey guys i'm having some probs with sound playing for a sec then stoping in flash well mayb more08:36
Joeli just have not tested08:37
e3joel u usin flash908:37
Joelbut when i'm playing stuff off you tube plays08:37
Joela bit08:37
Joelthen stops08:37
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defryskjust amazed how people seem to think ms rescues08:37
Joelyes08:37
Joelits flash908:37
Joele308:37
Joel!flash908:37
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html08:37
e3i heard there is a link that gets disconnected when u install flash9..i dont know how to solve it...08:37
defryskJoel, flash 9 has onme mayor bug : sound getting into a loop08:38
defryskone*08:38
e3my flash9 used to freeze my machine..08:38
Joelwell08:38
Joelmine plays08:38
Joelfor a bit08:38
Joelthen stops08:38
e3someone gave me some thing to type that fixed it from freezing the computer..08:38
Joeli had this prob b4 flash908:38
Joeli think08:38
=== defrysk has often sound going intoo a loop
defryskflash9 = beta08:38
steroidHello everyone08:38
defryskthey seem to be working on it08:38
Joelwhats a good audio tut to use to try fixing if its my sound setup08:39
e3Anyone know...if its possible...to install GNOME junk on my machine...to make a gnome program called Democracy Player to work.....08:39
Joela good setup gilde for audio08:39
steroidsomeone knows how to make windows become transparent or such things please ?08:39
defryske3, one trick might work .... , use gdm as your login manager08:40
e3gdm? what is that08:40
scott_w|lappysteroid: not everything can be made translucent08:40
SperMiteNight all..08:40
scott_w|lappybut stuff like the terminal window can be08:40
steroidscott> what can be ?08:40
defryskgnome desktop manager08:40
manchickenAnybody get shot over a PS3 here yet?  heh08:40
scott_w|lappyand the drop-down menus08:40
steroidoh i see08:41
scott_w|lappythe window decorations08:41
steroidand how can it be done though ?08:41
scott_w|lappythe desktop panels08:41
scott_w|lappyit's different for each one08:41
scott_w|lappythe konsole transparency is in the konsole options08:41
steroidthanks ^08:41
scott_w|lappythe rest is in kcontrol08:41
steroid^^*08:41
scott_w|lappyiirc08:41
scott_w|lappy:)08:42
scott_w|lappynp08:42
scott_w|lappynow i've got to get ready for work08:42
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ironfroggyany idea why i cant get any scripts with #! lines to execute, even if i can verify the #! lines are correct and i can run the scripts with the interpreters directly?08:57
e3Uhm...Why is my KDE clock showing me Military time?08:58
ironfroggycause you told it to by mistake08:59
bulwynklanother question... my old (dying) HDD contains my previous installation of Kubuntu and a whole bunch of data I like back.08:59
bulwynklI like to get the data back at some stage (most of it is backed up, so no hurry)09:00
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e3I set my clock for Los Angeles time and all the sudden it went 00:0009:01
bulwynklbut apparently I'm using something called LVM??? can someone point me to a howto or documetn that tells me what I need to do to mount the old HDD?09:01
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probosehey guys... im trying to "./configure, make, make install" a program named p2kmoto... but look what happens in "make": http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32487/ How do i fix it?09:03
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TheGateKeeperprobose, looks like you are missing source code like usb.h09:05
e3I saw a AMD64 4gb dvd on the net... thats the distro that cant run on intel machines. so i put it on my amd computer and it froze with some kinda Logic error.09:05
e3anyone ran into a logic error before..maybe i didnt burn it right...?09:07
steroid_i don't think it's a matter of burning09:08
steroid_anyway check the md509:08
e3what is md5?09:08
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shaezscheis it a bad idea to use reiserfs?09:09
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e3I'm not sure how to check the md5. wikipedia gives me pages of technical terms that i want to learn eventually but at the moment i'm not quite sure how to do this.09:10
TheGateKeeperShaezsche, I have heard of problems with reiserfs, probable saffer just to use ext309:10
steroid_it's thw checksum provided with the cd\dvd to verify that data is not corrupted09:10
Shaezscheext3 is slow, and formatting 10 gigs takes 700mb!09:11
e3Oh, so when I burn the DVD make sure to Check the data?09:11
steroid_yep09:11
steroid_try downloading it again and burn it on a rw media09:12
momalIs the cpu mhz in kinfocenter>processor correct? because it says 1000.000 and i have a amd x2 4200+ so i think it should be running around 2000mhz at least. if it is correct how can i boost it up?09:12
e3Also...my AMD64 machine boots to the previous version of ubuntu but not 6.10...09:12
TheGateKeeperShaezsche, well I am no expert of file formats, but I think it was a gentoo guy which was have major problems with reiserfs09:12
TheGateKeepercan't remember the details but I think he was having trouble booting into his system09:13
e3I will download Kubuntu 6.10 again and check the data when burning. TY :D09:13
TheGateKeeperpays your money & takes your choice :-)09:13
ironfroggy"bad interpreter: Permission Denied" and i can verify the permissions and paths on both the script and interpreter are correct, and can run both of them otherwise, so where do i look?09:13
TheGateKeeperin any event (k)ubuntu is a slow distro anyway, if you want speed try arch09:14
steroid_^^09:15
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e3does automatrix work on kde09:16
TheGateKeeper!automatrix09:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:17
momalinfo automatrix09:18
momal!info automatrix09:18
ubotuPackage automatrix does not exist in any distro I know09:18
e3ksayit wont load some kind of control module...im going to try to research this..i want text to speech...09:18
TheGateKeepere3 not supported & can break your system09:18
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bronaughy.o09:18
bulwynklwhat is logical volume management/UUID?09:18
e3automatrix is not supported?09:18
Shaezschewhat is e309:19
bronaughquestion... how can I get at Debian's RAID partitioner in Kubuntu?09:19
e3e3 is a consumer electronics show09:19
Shaezscheoh09:19
bronaughcurrently I've got Kubuntu 6.10, I've started the installer; but I see no way to create RAID volumes.09:19
bronaughno ideas?09:21
ehirdit's:09:21
ehird!automatix09:21
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.09:21
bronaughis that directed at me?09:22
e3Ok.... anyone know how i can get Ksayit to speak......its broken...09:22
ehirddid you install it with automatix?09:22
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e3ksayit is a text to speech program09:23
e3so no09:23
e3*eek* im not sure if that was dirrected at me lol09:23
bronaughyeah, neither am I.09:24
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e3so anywho.. i was going to install automatrix on kde but i guess its bad for the computer so im not going to now. im still wondering how to install ksayit.09:24
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defryskjust stay away from automatix , using it makes it impossible here to help you out with probs09:25
icheyne!automatix09:25
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.09:25
bulwynklI think ubotu is a chat bot? here, let me see.  automatix :-)09:25
e3use the "!" in front of a word to use the bot09:25
icheyneare there any good password managers for KDE?09:25
icheyneRevelation looks good, but it's Gnome09:26
bulwynkl:-)09:26
bulwynklcool, thanks e309:26
bulwynkl!LVM09:27
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO09:27
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bulwynkl!UUID09:27
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"09:27
bronaughso there's no text installer on the Kubuntu 6.10 "desktop" CD?09:27
ehirdhi,09:28
Rawrnessnope09:28
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icheynebronaugh, you have to use the alternative cd09:28
Rawrnessthere is on the the alt. though09:28
e3Is it possible to order a Kubuntu AMD DVD?09:28
ehirdi'm getting a proper ethernet modem at last09:28
ehirdbut -09:28
RawrnessDvd image is the best though09:28
ehirdi don't know what ethernet card is in there, i think it's built in. will it still work?09:28
icheyneRawrness, why is the dvd image the  best?09:28
icheyneRawrness, I didn't know there was one!09:29
Rawrnessit has live/alt09:29
icheyneok thanks09:29
Rawrnessplus alot of stuff from the repos09:29
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bronaughicheyne: unless I just do my RAID config by hand..09:29
RawrnessIt saves abit of bandwidth durring install09:29
bronaughwill the bloody GUI installer honour that?09:29
akshwhat does Konqueror use to mount/unmount CDs as normal user? pmount ?09:31
e3Is it possible to get the Kubuntu CD for amd64 machines? i see it is for the DVD but i now want the CD.09:31
bronaughe3: yeh.09:32
bronaughit is.09:32
e3I see it not: Kubuntu 6.10 DVD (64bit pc edition)09:32
e3wait no thats not what i wanted lol09:32
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e3I still cant find kubuntu 64bit cd... hrmm..09:37
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e3do you guys recomend using firefox over konkorer or however its spelt09:37
bulwynklLG DVDRW and LG CDRW in my machine... dvd won mount ( data DVD burned using windows Vista)09:38
e3i didnt know vista burned dvds09:38
e3i stillll cant find 64bit kubuntu on cd so im downloading the dvd again. wait a sec i dont have a dvd burner on this machine...hrrmm... back to searching i go....09:41
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e3im not so sure if thre IS a 64bit kubuntu on CD instead of DVD............09:44
e3amd64 i guess i mean09:45
bronaughe3: I am running off that CD right now, so it does exist.09:45
bronaughdesktop or alternate; both exist.09:46
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e3in 6.10?09:47
e3all the Kubuntu CD's i can find all say i386   :(09:48
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bronaughuhh.09:50
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bronaughkubuntu gui installer is on a LOT of crack.09:50
bronaughI just set up 3 RAID1 arrays.09:50
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bronaughset type to fd (linux raid autodetect)09:50
bronaughand ... uhh. it thinks that /dev/sda1 is NTFS09:51
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bronaughit also won't accept "fuck off and die" as an answer.09:51
ehirdtry telling it to RTFM09:51
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bronaughdude. the thing's so minimal, a drooling product of generations of inbreeding could use it.09:52
bronaughthere is no manual because there is only one codepath.09:53
bulwynkltypo above... should read, dvd won't mount. error message is "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,"09:53
ehirdso, anyone have an idea about my ethernet q?09:53
bronaughand identifying a partition type as something other than what it is is a bug.09:53
bulwynkldmesg|tail just has "Unable to identify CD-ROM format.09:53
ehirdi'm getting a proper ethernet modem at last, but i don't know what ethernet card is in there, i think it's built in. will it still work? <-- question for reference09:53
bronaughehird: chances are it'll work.09:54
bronaughalmost every ethernet controller will. nVidia's crap is pretty much the only dodgy one out there right now.09:54
bronaugh(I've got one in a server I admin; I disabled it, and put a de4x5 in its place)09:54
ehirdokay, but i warn you my motherboard is this cheesy "WinFast" crap09:54
ehirdbut if it'll work out of the box in a good number of linux distros that's fine by me09:55
bronaughanyhow, next q: has anyone had experience with jfs?09:55
ehirdif not, i guess i'll just buy a well supported one09:55
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bronaughhttp://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06/kubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-amd64.iso10:01
bronaughthere.10:01
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T3hWiz0rddvds10:02
e36.06?!10:04
e3*pout*... is there no 6.10....10:06
bronaughyeah, there's 6.1010:06
bronaughhttp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso10:06
e3http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/10:06
T3hWiz0rdlol...10:06
T3hWiz0rdcurrent would be 6.10, yes.10:06
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T3hWiz0rdinstead of following a tracker, always check the official sites10:07
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e3*does the This Is Gonna Rock dance*10:08
bronaughthe installer's a steaming piel.10:09
bronaughbut I'm impressed with the live CD overall.10:09
SperMiteanyone in here registered to Demonoid>torrent site?10:09
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bronaughand getting things as wrong as I've seen is pretty bad.10:13
T3hWiz0rdI see10:13
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T3hWiz0rdthat'll be good for future usage fomr e.10:13
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bronaughlike ... partition type 0xfd is -not- NTFS.10:13
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bronaughit's linux raid autodetect.10:13
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T3hWiz0rdbronaugh: do what he said10:13
T3hWiz0rdget the alternate install CD10:13
T3hWiz0rdits got the raid configurations.10:13
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bronaughalready have the RAID configured.10:14
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Jucatothe Desktop CD doesn't have options/support for RAID10:14
bronaughbut I can't seem to abuse the desktop CD into installing to it.10:14
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T3hWiz0rdJucato: a bit of a dumb thing to do eh? strip it of all its features.10:14
e3Is it possible to tell AddRemove that I dont wish to type my password every time? I'm the only user of this machine.10:14
Jucatonah. it's not supposed to be the all powerful installer. they might be working towards that. but the initial release wasn't meant to be one10:14
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T3hWiz0rdJucato: the alternate install has those tools though? and still a graphical installer?10:16
Jucatographical,  in the ncurses sense.10:16
T3hWiz0rdah10:16
Jucatothe Desktop CD has also a severe limitation: you can't install if you can't get the GUI up at all10:16
T3hWiz0rdas long as it gets the job done lol10:16
T3hWiz0rdi would never use kubuntu in an advanced system unless  I had the patience to deal wirh it.10:17
T3hWiz0rdwith it*10:17
bronaughJucato: has that safe mode thingy.10:17
bronaughthat does work.10:17
Jucatowho knows.  like everything else in the open source world, projects change and grow (or die...). Ubiquity will probably improve too10:17
Jucatosafe mode GUI?10:18
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Jucatoas long as it has X, you can install. without X, you can't (iirc)10:18
Jucatoanyway, time for me to go :)10:19
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ehirdhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2H35SlLmUA someone port this to linux10:20
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ehird"requires Java2 and Windows OS " sigh10:22
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bronaugh"can't have /boot on XFS"10:24
bronaughyeah you can. grub's been able to do that forever.10:24
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bronaughstupid installer.10:25
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bronaughand no debootstrap...10:27
T3hWiz0rdhow can I share a printer over a linux server?10:27
T3hWiz0rddifficult at all?10:27
bronaughto linux, mac, or windows clients?10:27
T3hWiz0rdlinux and mac10:27
T3hWiz0rdand possibly windows too if I can10:28
bronaughcups for linux and mac, and samba for windows.10:28
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ehirdyay! # echo Hi > /dev/stdout works10:30
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crazy_busc/nvlllnvc/nvnvccllnvc/nvcll10:34
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e3Anyone..know..where..i..can.. find a AMOR screen toy character...other than the low quality ones that come with AMOR. Or any other screen toy/mate/deskmate/characters.....10:36
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ehirdi...like...elipses...too10:38
ehird!elipses10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about elipses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:38
ehirddarn10:38
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e3This is really odd....SuperTux (a video game) is running really slow.10:48
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bronaughyeah; probably no accelerated 3D10:49
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e3When I would use GNOME, I ran all kinds of games including SuperTux, it ran great!10:50
bronaughuh huh. nothing to do with gnome vs kde.10:50
e3It's running like its underwater now. Perhaps my kernal is the wrong one...and maybe my video driver got screwed up some how.....10:51
e3well im not sure what i did when i switched to kde, but my computer is running funky slow.10:51
e3i have a 3ghz amd machine with 1gb ram and ati radion 512memory10:52
e3im liking kde...but its different than gnome...im still getting used to it and for whatever reason i run into a lot of issues with linux....gnome included....10:53
Ayabarawhat torrent-client do you guys use. I use ktorrent and like it, but I can't get the same speeds I do with utorrent under wine, which is the fastest I've tried in kubuntu..10:54
e3i've always used azureus (spelling is bad) but i dont know what its speed is10:55
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yanis_why my (kubuntu) konqueror doesnt have the cut action under the edit menu?10:55
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e3which reminds me i need to install frostwire...10:55
Ayabarae3, azureus also worked quite well for me, but doesn't it take up a bit too much resources?10:56
e3"azureus" there correct spelling10:56
e3yeah, i guess it does, but i have a fast machine : p10:56
Ayabarae3, you spelled it right both times :-)10:56
e3lmao10:56
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e3What Kernal does Kubuntu 64bit come with?10:58
bronaugh6.10 comes with 2.6.17-1010:58
e3what do i type to find out which one im using?10:58
e3typing uname -r says im using "2.6.17-10-generic"11:00
e3i think im using i386 though..?????11:01
e3i wish to be using the 64bit one11:01
Yaccine3: sudo adept_manager11:01
Yaccinsearch for kernel11:01
Yaccininstall the one you like11:01
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e3if im using the one the 64bit kubuntu comes with....why is it called 64bit..cause this i think is the same one i used on my intel machine.....11:03
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bronaughYaccin: btw, is there any good reason kubuntu won't tolerate /boot on XFS?11:04
bronaughit's working fine here on debian, and has been for over a year.11:04
Yaccinbronaugh: i dont know what XFS is ^^11:04
bronaughahh. ok.11:04
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e3So eh... why.. is kubuntu64 using the same kernal as kubuntu i386.... what could possibly be the difference between the two...?11:06
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e3my processor is amd64 3000+ does that mean im 64bit processor?11:10
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bronaughathlon64 you mean?11:10
bronaughyou gain some performance, mainly due to additional registers.11:10
e3yeah athlon11:11
e3i use athlon6411:11
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e3so these aditional registers..how do i get them without reinstalling the whole os....because i think right now im using i386 kernal....11:12
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bronaughwell.. you either reinstall, or you don't.11:12
e3When I reinstall...does that have to be from cd/dvd, or can i do it via the terminal11:13
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T3hWiz0rdokay11:14
e3does reinstall simply mean the kernel..or the entire partition....11:14
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james_anyone around to tackle a problem with artsd and alsa?11:16
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Ayabarais anyone using banshee or songbird? are they good alternatives to amarok?11:17
e3You linux smartie pants people... What exactly do I have to reinstall to get my athlon64 working faster?11:17
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YaccinAyabara: there arent alternatives to amarok ^^11:18
AyabaraYaccin, that's settled then :-)11:18
Yaccinwhat do you miss on amarok?11:18
james_i am having sound initializing problems it just started and i don't know why but it needs to stop please help11:19
AyabaraYaccin, nothing at all, I'm just curious.11:19
Ayabarajust ditched xp for good, and I'm just looking around to see what apps I like in kubuntu :-)11:20
Yaccinhmm if you want  more-windpows (winamp) feeling, use xmms or bmp11:20
VigoFuseUbuntu/Linux newb here, the #ubuntu channel is not up? is the Automatix the thing for to make my ATI Radeon Chipset work?11:21
apokryphosVigoFuse: it is up. Type /join #ubuntu11:21
apokryphos!automatix | VigoFuse11:22
ubotuVigoFuse: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.11:22
VigoFuseThank you11:22
VigoFuseI will try #ubuntu again, but I thank you kindly for the assistance11:23
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e3I simply dont know....will I have to format my hardrive and install Kubuntu64 to get my athlon64 to work faster. I mean, is the formatting necessary.11:23
Yaccini think so11:24
e3That makes me cringe : )11:24
joe3ksuppose you're talking i386 vs x64 :)11:24
joe3kshould there be any real difference?11:25
e3yes i am talking that11:25
e3i would love to see improvement in programs11:25
e3im not sure what i'll get by using 6411:25
joe3ke3: hmmmm i'm afraid you won't11:25
joe3kafaik not that much, at least in usual office applications11:26
e3I do a lot of 3d gaming11:26
e3is it worth the huge hastle to reinstall11:26
joe3kok that could do something11:26
e3k11:26
joe3ki installed i386 on my friend's x64 laptop11:26
joe3kfirstly i tried the x64 version but then you run into stuff like firefox & flash etc11:27
e3now only if i can get my machine to boot to the installer.....11:27
joe3kit just wasn't worth the troubles so i installed i38611:27
e3whats wrong with firefox/flash on 64???11:27
joe3ke3: well adobe flash is not avail for x6411:27
Yaccini have a friend, that runs flash etc on 64 bit11:28
Yaccinbut i dont know how11:28
Yaccinand hes using gentoo -_-11:28
joe3kYaccin: but in chroot or similar stuff11:28
joe3ke3: you consider yourself to be advanced linux user? :)11:28
e3No one told me I couldnt use flash with Kubuntu64... I not only game, i also LOVE flash. : (     and no, im actually a complete linux newbie with a lot of windows desktop repair knoweledge : p11:29
joe3ke3: you can but it's not out-of-the-box afaik11:30
e3well..linux desktop, windows desktop..same hardware...but linux im newbie.11:30
joe3ke3: http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/11:30
e3ok so while running kubuntu64, are there any forseen problems i'll face? is the flash problem really all that bad?11:30
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joe3ke3: gotta go away now, try to google a bit for ubuntu x64 and flash11:31
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joe3ke3: the real problems are _only_ with the binary stuff11:31
e3ok...thank you....11:32
joe3ke3: but eg nvidia drivers are available for x6411:32
joe3kflash is only 3211:32
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joe3kthere's a gnu flash as well but it's not that good11:32
e3ati radeon might not have flash then?11:32
joe3ke3: you mean x64 drivers for ati ?11:33
e3yeah11:33
apokryphosflash isn't available for 64-bit11:33
e3why did i buy a fancy 64bit machine when i cant even use it : p11:34
joe3ke3: looks like there is already11:34
joe3ke3: don't worry it'll eventually get better ;-)11:34
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apokryphose3: it's Flash's (for not releasing under 64bit) fault, but also Ubuntu's (since it's not BiArch compatible)11:34
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e3so is it possible, to run flash at all?11:35
joe3kit is11:35
apokryphoson Ubuntu you have to have a chroot, unfortunately. Other distributions handle this better.11:35
joe3kapokryphos: isn't there really any other way?11:35
joe3kapokryphos: i heard something like 32bit firefox11:36
e3for a newbie such as i, will it hurt to install flash on kubuntu64?11:36
joe3kapokryphos: this ain't working on ubuntu?11:36
T3hWiz0rdcups(File)DoRequest error: client-error-bad-request <<< anyone know what could cause that?11:36
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joe3ke3: well you'll have to do some non-standard stuff for sure, that could break eg later upgrades and so on11:37
apokryphosjoe3k: if you had a 32bit firefox you could run flash too, but I don't think Ubuntu has such a package11:37
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apokryphossince it'd require a lot of other stuff11:37
joe3kwell i never had x64 myself, i once installed it11:38
apokryphose3: it won't really be possible, yeah.11:38
e3*cries*... i'll just stick to my cheapo i386 kernel for now... thank you all so much....11:38
joe3kbut due to these problems i replaced it with i386 since the x64 doesn't have that much advantages for desktop11:38
apokryphosthere's certainly a bit of perfomance improvement11:39
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joe3ke3: if you're new i think you'd better stick with i386 and hope it'll worka automatically in some of the next releases11:39
joe3ke3: though i don't know what's planned for x64 ubuntu, you could ask at #kubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-devel11:40
e3*sniffle*... ok...11:40
joe3kapokryphos: well i can't really imagine11:40
joe3kapokryphos: most of the desktop apps certainly don't need 64bit integer :)11:41
joe3kie long long11:41
e3when i get a Quad 2 Core processor from intel in a few years, im going to die if kubuntu doesnt support it.11:41
apokryphoshuh? Pretty much all the packages are compiled for a pure 64-bit system11:41
apokryphose3: I'm sure it will11:41
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joe3kapokryphos: i mean if the apps doen't require 64bit arithmetic which needs to be simulated on 32bit11:42
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e3i dislike the idea of putting expensive WindowsVista on my 64 bit machine and just using it for work. i dont want to use windows for play...it just feels weird....11:42
joe3kapokryphos: in that case it should be the same speed on 64bit/32bit .... possibly with minor differences11:43
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e3i say screw vista...im sticking with kubuntu even if they dont get to use some of the 64bit stuff.11:43
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joe3ke3: well do you actually know if the games you want to play are avalable for x64 at all?11:44
e3i bet they wont be : )11:45
joe3ke3: you could actually end up not even being able to play quake3demo :-D11:45
e3stupid 64bit processor was so expensive and i've never been able to even use it... X.x11:45
joe3ke3: if you use binary stuff you have to check whether it's available only for i386 or x64 as well11:46
e3this is good information because my x64 kubuntu just finished downloading and if not for you guys saving me, i would have installed it.11:46
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joe3ke3: well it surely is going to be better11:47
apokryphoshopefully Ubuntu will just be BiArch compatible some time soon11:47
apokryphosit was originally planned for Edgy, but that didn't happen. Not sure about the plans now (mainly relating to smart package manager)11:47
apokryphosother distros like SUSE have been biarch-compatible for years :/11:47
e3will KDE4 come with its own kernal? am i on crack putting those two together?11:47
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Steven_Mhi all11:48
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joe3ke3: imagine current windows is not yet 64bit ready so it could be the reason why the 64bit arch is still kinda being ignored11:49
e3true.11:49
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joe3kok it _is_ ready but you can't buy it yet11:49
Steven_Mdoes anyone here run dosbox?11:49
apokryphose3: no, KDE is a desktop envrionment11:49
e3im curious if the four processors in Intel Core2 Quad will be 64bit.11:49
Yaccinjoe3k: ... windows is NEVER ready11:49
Yaccin:P11:49
joe3kSteven_M: maybe 3yrs ago i used it11:49
joe3kYaccin: :)11:50
e3and im wondering how many bits the playstation3 is, with its... eight procesors? im not sure how many it has.11:50
T3hWiz0rdfigures. Linux finally gets printing from all locations... then my mac hits the problem11:51
e3I want to use a Playstation3 as a computer pretty bad, with a nice high rez projection screen.11:51
YaccinPS3 sucks11:52
e3well im not usin' an xbox36011:52
Yaccinxbox also sucks11:52
Yaccin^_^11:52
Steven_Mjoe3k: how do I fix this error:11:52
Steven_MALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory11:52
Steven_MALSA:Can't open sequencer11:52
e3sony and microsoft both suck...yeah...but where else can i get a super fast console.11:52
Yaccinwhy do you want a console? o.O11:53
Yaccinyou have a PC11:53
e3*hopes no one mentions nintendo wii*11:53
Yaccinits so much better11:53
joe3kSteven_M: sorry, no idea :-/11:53
Yaccini would rather buy a wii then a xbox or ps311:53
e3my pc is in my office, its to heavy to haul into my trunk and bump around to the friends houses11:53
Yaccinbut i never ever will buy a console11:53
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Steven_Mthat's ok11:54
e3i still play games on my dreamcast11:54
joe3ke3: only when you install i386 now don't forget to create a separate partition for your home, so that a possible reinstall to x64 won't be so much pain11:54
e3oh neat : )11:54
joe3kif you don't know how, ask someone else, i gotta go now :)11:54
e3thanks so much bro : )11:54
e3laters11:54
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scofmbhi! how do i install opera? i can't find it in the adept manager.. (new to kubuntu)12:07
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thoreauputic!opera12:07
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser12:07
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thoreauputicscofmb: you might need to add an entry for the commercial repo - see the help URL above12:08
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scofmbthxs12:09
thoreauputicscofmb: if you are running 6.10 I don't know if opera is available yet for it12:09
scofmbi'm running 6.10 :(12:09
thoreauputicin that case you might have to get it from the opera site12:09
scofmbbut in the webpage you ppl send me, its said i can installit :)12:09
thoreauputichmm - I'm currently on a box running dapper here ...12:10
scofmbinstalled ;) thxs ppl!12:10
thoreauputic!info opera edgy12:10
ubotuPackage opera does not exist in edgy12:10
thoreauputicscofmb: ah OK :)12:10
scofmbnah.. i download the deb from the opera site and installed using konqueror12:11
thoreauputicfair enough12:11
scofmbthanks ;)12:11
scofmbi haven't used linux in over 2 years :P12:11
thoreauputicscoates: I haven't used anything else in over 3 years ;-)12:12
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thoreauputicoh I lied - I have a dual boot OS-X and ppc Ubuntu laptop12:12
scofmbwell.. i used linux only from 1997-2005 :P (but since i'm on a electronic major now, i had all the simulators on windows.. so have to choose)12:13
TheGateKeeperhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Opera_web_browser12:13
scofmbstarted with redhat 4.2 :P12:13
thoreauputicscofmb: wow12:14
thoreauputicscofmb: things have changed a lot since then ;-)12:14
scofmbyep.. too much, i remember playin with isapnptools :P12:14
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scofmbto get my modem working12:15
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emrefdsa12:17
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wilmanhey i have a problem, i hear sound throug my speakers, but i cannot hear or play music files. some of the audio players wont even start12:18
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e3GoogleEarth isnt working!!! Achhhhkkkk*dies*. This SUcks!12:28
bronaughso fix your OpenGL12:29
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ScarFreewillGoogleEarth works vor me...12:29
ScarFreewill*for12:30
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wilmaninstal your graphic card driver12:35
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bot12gb#kubuntu-es12:46
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maverickanybody wud plz suggest me any p2p to use on edgy...12:48
maverickFrostwire doesn't really connect12:48
maverickgtk-nutella is so slow even after port forwarding...ooh how i miss frost wire12:48
maverick!help12:49
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:49
maverick!frostwire12:49
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire12:49
ehirdLimewire IS open source12:50
ehirdand it isn't a limewire clone. it's BASED on the limewire code12:51
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ehirdget your facts right people!12:51
crazy_busI've downloaded the 1920(HD) resolution elephants dream movie from here http://orange.blender.org/download  But for some reason it stutters in scenes with lots of movement.  Does anyone know a reason for this12:51
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ehirdcrazy_bus: yes your cpu is no way fast enough to play it back in realtime12:51
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crazy_busdo you know a good program to converte it into a lower resolution?12:52
thoreauputiccrazy_bus: possibly your graphics card can't handle it12:52
ehirdit'll be the cpu. believe me.12:52
thoreauputicOK :)12:52
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ehirdgraphics card doesn't have to do much work when it's pre-rendered12:53
zimenghello everyone!12:53
crazy_busWould I be able to watch it if I converted it into a lower resolution, or burned it onto a DVD?12:54
maverickanybody wud plz suggest me any p2p to use on edgy...12:54
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Ace2016hi all12:56
crazy_bushello12:56
Ace2016how do i remove the ms truetype fonts12:56
Ace2016?12:56
thoreauputiccrazy_bus: converting it might help, yes12:56
crazy_busYou can install/remove ms truetype fonts in Add/Remove programs12:56
Ace2016crazy_bus, does this remove the fonts themselves?12:57
Ace2016what would happen if i removed all the fonts in linux?12:57
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crazy_busIt's called 'Microsoft Core Fonts'12:58
crazy_busSo I wouldn't think it would remove all of the fonts12:59
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user__moin @ll12:59
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bsmhi, will a dist-upgrade to edgy work flawlessly? :)01:00
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crazy_busWhats a good program to downgrade the resolution of videos?01:01
bsmtranscode01:01
bsmavidemux2 (with gui)01:02
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crazy_busbsm, there's only avidemux in adept.  Will that do the same job as avidemux2?01:09
johnHas anyone had issues installing flashplayer on firefox?01:09
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ehird_Hrm. Fluxbox is nice.01:09
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krautmoin01:10
bsmcrazy_bus: dunno. if it has a nice gui and is about version 2.0.xx then its the right one ;)01:11
johnI found that when using the install-flashplayer script, the permissions on the files in the plugins folder are incorrect, causing Firefox to crash01:12
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crazy_busversion 1:201:13
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tamacrackerIs getting XGI a good idea?01:17
tamacrackeror does Kubuntu have it installed already?01:18
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tamacrackercan anyone help me with my repos?01:26
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RythanAlthough I followed the direction for loading the ATI driver, the MESA GLX Indirect is still loading, how can I fox this?01:28
Rythaner fix01:28
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bubu1uktamacracker: what help u need with repos?01:31
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RythanI am also getting this with fglrxinfo: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".01:33
tamacrackerI need to know if i modified my repos correctly01:33
tamacrackeri dont know if i have full access to all the sources.01:33
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aimtrainerhi! I have a 640*bla res right now and cant change the res in the nvidia xserver settngs because the part to enter the new res is not displayed due to the low resolution and I cant get the window up01:36
aimtrainerim afraid my explaination of my problem is kinda crappy..01:36
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EmxBAhi01:39
EmxBAi've installed amarok on *ubuntu* and there is no icon in the gnome panel, what's the problem?01:40
ndc#ubuntu01:42
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bubu1uktamacracker: use wiki. there are good instruction how to do it.01:48
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DadanHappyi got error when i try install some package from adept the error is "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages" what should i do?02:04
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defryskDadanHappy, try sudo apt-get -f install02:05
DadanHappydefrysk: it's still error02:07
defryskDadanHappy, did you add a not ubuntu repo ?02:07
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DadanHappyi add edgy-backports02:08
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defryskDadanHappy, did you install packages from obscure sites or something ?02:08
SlimGis ndiswrapper-utils available on the cd version of ubuntu?02:10
DadanHappyno, but before i got this error, i'm installing with adept and when adept downloading from repo, my internet connection is broken02:10
defryskwell you cannot download with a poor conection I guess02:11
DadanHappyand after that, adept error02:11
defryskdo sudo apt-get udate02:11
DadanHappyi need solution to make adept normal again02:11
defryskupdate*02:11
defryskdoes that work ?02:12
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DadanHappydefrysk: no, it still error02:14
DadanHappy:(02:14
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defryskDadanHappy, is adept closed ?02:14
defryskif no close it02:15
defryskthen sudo apt-get update02:15
DadanHappyi've, but it's still error02:15
defryskDadanHappy, sudo apt-get install --fix-missing02:16
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DadanHappy:) it's work02:17
defryskgood ;)02:17
DadanHappythanks02:18
defryskyw02:18
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Kotetsuthis is gonna sound really dumb but, how to tar.gz files work?02:25
defryskman tar02:26
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RythanCan anyone help in getting the ATI Binary drivers working?  I followed the Wiki and Mesa Indirect are still loading instead of ATI02:29
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Bubba_Gump:)02:32
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vincenzociao02:36
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vincenzoqualcuno puo darmi una mano per settare la mia wlan02:37
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crubeIs there a way to hide all the <nick> left/joined/disconnected messages in Konversation?02:43
ghostshadow189hi all , wat folder or file to manage and contain kde theme ?02:45
arriespciao02:46
ScarFreewill!cvs02:52
ubotucvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/02:52
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ghostshadow189hi all , wat folder or file to manage and contain kde theme ?02:54
ghostshadow189and how can i enable double click to open folder and file ?02:54
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bubu1ukghostshadow189: system settings02:57
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defryskghostshadow189, systemsettings > keyboard and mouse > mouse02:58
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Tm_T!away03:00
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines03:00
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ghostshadow189and , i want that when i double click to window , it'll maximize instead hide it03:01
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DeadSouLAfter formatting Windows and reinstalling it, grub screen disappeared. So I can not log on Kubuntu now. How can I bring back grub screen?03:05
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defrysk!grub03:08
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:08
defrysk^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^03:08
DeadSouLThanks a lot defrysk03:09
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intelikeyi'm having an issue with booting sda, it seems that it will boot fine for 20 or 30 times then it fails miserably no boot prompt or nothing  just  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO for half a screen full and hangs.  that condition remains until i reinstall the boot loader.  anyone ever seen this before ?03:14
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defryskintelikey, loose plugs or whatever03:15
momalIs the cpu mhz in kinfocenter>processor correct? because it says 1000.000 and i have a amd x2 4200+ so i think it should be running around 2000mhz at least. if it is correct how can i boost it up?03:15
defryskcheck your connections and check for dust03:15
Tm_Tintelikey: Someone's laughing at you, "lol" ;(03:15
intelikeyTm_T ?03:16
Tm_Tintelikey: Stupid joke, ignore.03:16
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intelikeydefrysk loose plug would NOT be fixed by simply reinstalling the boot loader ?03:16
defrysknope03:17
defryskits something "loose"like flatcable03:17
defryskor dusty like mobo/psu03:17
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intelikeydefrysk then why does a software reinstall of the boot loader fix it for about the same amount of time each time ?03:18
defryskintelikey, or something like old age unfortunately03:18
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intelikeydefrysk that i might buy03:18
jcbHey looking for sweet place to download movies03:18
defryskI'va had it too years ago03:18
defryskjcb, not here03:18
defryskIn my case it was a combo of dust/and old stuff03:19
jcbknow a good site not porn movies just regular movies03:19
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defryskcan someone ban jcb ?03:19
intelikeydefrysk so maybe disk going bad ?   but badblocks found nothing   not one single block on the whole disk and i've checked it more than once, + read/write mode.03:20
defryskintelikey, something like that03:20
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defryskjust poor working data transfer03:21
jcbjust looking for superman returns movie03:21
defryskon your hd due to loose contcts03:21
defryskjcb, not here please03:21
defrysktime to walk the dog03:21
intelikeydefrysk hmmmm i sussspose anything is possable03:22
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jcbwell is there any one who knows how to set up printing in Ubuntu03:22
jcbI have and HP 4300 Office jet all in one03:23
Jucato!printer03:23
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:23
jcbthanks03:23
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bomber!compiler03:25
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:25
jcbif 4300 not available will 4200 work03:25
abdullahello any one can help me ? how can i download java for my lunix ? abuntu03:25
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Jucato!java03:26
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:26
jcbhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/index.html  try this03:26
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maverickany suggestions for P2P for edgy?!!03:30
maverickfrostwire doesn't connect anymore..so i need a change03:30
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heinkel_112hi, is it correct that there is a compatibility layer that make it possible to run .NET programs on linux?03:35
kriskriscan anyone help me? im trying to install divx for linux, but when i try to install i get the licence agreement i cant get past it, its not asking for me type "yes" or something. Does anyone know what iim doing wrong?03:35
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deemaanybody here use islsm?03:36
tamacrackerHey guys? How do I check my Nvidia driver version? I need to check if it needs to be upgraded03:36
tamacrackerupdated*03:36
tamacrackerdeema what is that?03:37
deemawifi driver03:37
tamacrackeroh03:37
deemawell about your nvidia, you could go to the package manager and search for nvidia03:38
deemaand it should show03:38
defrysk!info nvidia03:38
ubotuPackage nvidia does not exist in any distro I know03:38
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defrysk!info nvidia-glx03:38
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB03:38
defryskthats the one for edgy03:38
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deemanvidia-glx, yeah03:39
defrysk1.0.877603:39
fragmentI cannot find /etc/mkinitramfs/modules would it be in a different location?03:40
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deemanevar03:47
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intelikeysomeone in #ubuntu sujested it's maybe the fsck that is fixing my mbr.... i'm thinking that's prolly right.   anyone know how fsck would treet a fs without a partition ?03:48
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madethanks my java has install03:50
intelikeyi guess what i'm asking is what is the probability that e2fsck would look at the first sector of the fs and see the MBR and call it an error ?03:50
made what about psm my mozilla browser need to download psm ? from were can i found ?03:52
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intelikeymade the package manager03:52
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intelikey!mozilla-psm03:53
ubotumozilla-psm: The Mozilla Internet application suite - Personal Security Manager (PSM). In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.13-0.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 692 kB03:53
intelikey!mozilla-psm dapper03:53
ubotumozilla-psm: The Mozilla Internet application suite - Personal Security Manager (PSM). In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 174 kB, installed size 692 kB03:53
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intelikeyhmmmm i don't think it is e2fsck that's doing it.....03:57
intelikeyMount count:              1503:57
intelikeyMaximum mount count:      -103:57
intelikeyit only forces test on unclean state.03:57
intelikeylast test 15 mounts ago.03:58
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fred_hey, does anyone here know anything about updating repositories?04:08
intelikeysome rocket scientist informed me the other day that you could not make a file system on an hard drive without partitions and have the MBR on the same disk.... i knew better than to swallow that line.  i been using that setup for years now... heh  and that is the setup here on this box but i have the same setup on another box that has never failed to boot.....04:08
intelikeyfred_ sudo apt-get update04:09
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fred_thank you04:09
intelikeyfred_ if you mean adding repositories  that's different.04:10
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intelikey!repos04:10
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:10
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intelikeynever failed to boot.....^ and it's still running hoary. installed over a year ago.04:12
xstCan anyone explain why bug #58721 apparently is being ignored by the ubuntu team, even though it is a complete showstopper for Matrox owners? (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721)04:13
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zerozero_does anyone in here code in coldfusion and if so what editor do you use with kubuntu?04:13
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paul_I have compiled and installed Tork, a KDE frontend to Tor, everything went smoothly untill I run it then I get error ->>>[warn]  Failed to parse/validate config: Couldn't access/create private data directory "/var/lib/tor"  this ssems to me like a permission problem but if I change permission on the /lib/tor folder the deamon actually restores it back to previous setting , any ideas to what I could try?04:14
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deemacan anybody here help me diagnose my wifi driver? I cannot get it to work, after many tries04:15
intelikeypaul_ is the deamon suid ?04:15
paul_hmm i have no idea04:16
paul_;/ <-newbie, how do I find this out?04:16
GrigorgeousAnybody knows how can I make the resolv.conf filenot to be reseted?04:16
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intelikeyfind /usr -name "deamon-name" -exec ls -l '{}' \;04:17
intelikeytranslate deamon-name04:17
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paul_i am not sure of output but I got this amongst other things -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 592516 2006-09-28 12:50 /usr/sbin/tor04:19
intelikeyGrigorgeous you could make it immutable and see what errors out because of it... that would tell you what is resetting it.04:20
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Grigorgeousintelikey: what's the way to make a file immutable?04:21
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intelikeypaul_ hmmm it's not suid.   that "could" be it.  i'm not sure it's supposed to be.04:21
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intelikeyGrigorgeous chattr +i "/path/filename"04:21
intelikeyas root  ^04:22
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psii've installed kubuntu-desktop, but kde wont start because it can't find "kstartupconfig"04:22
intelikeyGrigorgeous to undo later  it's * -i *04:22
psii tried googling but i found no answer04:23
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intelikeypsi  /usr/bin/kstartupconfig04:24
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intelikeypsi  file exist ?04:24
creaphothi folks04:25
deemacan anybody here help me diagnose my wifi driver? I cannot get it to work, after many tries04:25
psiintelikey: it does. i tried running it and i get permission denied errors (concerning the folder .kde/share)04:26
psii'll look into that.04:26
intelikeypsi what environment are you in now ?04:26
intelikeybooted ubuntu ?04:27
intelikeylive CD ?04:27
intelikeyconsole  gnome  other ?04:27
psiinstalled ubuntu, gnome04:27
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intelikeydeema all i can do there is point you at the wiki04:27
intelikey!wifi04:28
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:28
deemana no help man.04:28
creaphotis there somebody familiar with metabar; i lost the icons&preview since upggrading to edgy. Screenshot: http://emile-visual.info/temp/14.jpg04:28
intelikeypsi you own your home ?04:28
psiintelikey: i got it working. i deleted .kde and tried again :)04:28
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psithanks04:28
intelikeysudo chown $USER -R ~/    <--- would have worked also.04:29
intelikeyi think that command should be in the default .bashrc file....04:30
intelikeyOWN YOUR HOME!  OWN YOUR HOME!  OWN YOUR HOME!   </marches with sign>04:31
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creaphotnobody on my metabar problem 10 lines up ?04:37
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Bubba_Gumpkubuntu rulez04:42
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Bubba_Gumpum...04:42
Bubba_Gump:D04:42
Mythbusters.04:44
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PsiKloPxCan someone point me to a wiki for getting my linksys pci wireless card to work in kubuntu 6.10?04:47
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ironfroggyany ideas how i could get "bad interpreter: Permission denied" for any script i try to run with just `scriptname` and a #! line? both the script and interpreter are executable. i can run the interpreter and i can run the script with it, but not the script directly for any interpreter.04:48
ironfroggywhat could possibly be up?04:48
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PsiKloPxeveryone asleep?04:54
fdovingironfroggy: is the filesystem mounted as noexec ?04:54
ironfroggyno, its my root filesystem04:55
fdovingthe script too?04:55
ironfroggywait...04:55
ironfroggyoh.04:55
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deemasuxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx04:55
ironfroggywell, it worked yesterday and now it doesnt. i dont know what might have changed.04:55
ironfroggyits a cifs mount04:56
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justin1278hello everyone04:57
tsdgeoshi04:57
justin1278im having a strange issue today04:57
fdovingironfroggy: try to copy it to your homedir and try again. mount options like 'user' will imply noexec.04:57
justin1278when booting Kubuntu 6.10 on my notebook computer it boots very slowly when my AC adapter is plugged in04:57
justin1278but when my AC adapter is not plugged in it boots very quickly.04:57
deemaweird04:58
justin1278yes, any ideas?04:58
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DadanHappyi get some error when try install software from adept04:58
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ironfroggyfdoving: ok so thats definately the problem, but any idea why i never had trouble until quite suddenly?05:00
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fdovingironfroggy: don't know.05:00
justin1278does anyone know how i can fix the issue when my AC adapter is plugged in?05:00
DadanHappyi get some error when try install software from adept05:00
DadanHappythey said "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "05:00
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DadanHappyis there anything i can do?05:01
lorancan anyone help me with getting a boot loader other than grub for kubuntu?05:03
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HawkwindDadanHappy: Don't use adept, use apt-get from the command line.  It'll work a lot better and give you much better error messages if there are any05:05
defrysktry synaptic if you want some stability05:05
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Hawkwindapt-get is stable as well, if not more so than any others available in Kubuntu05:06
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DadanHappy:) i need solutions, how to make my adept get normal back05:08
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mwpAnyone alive?05:29
tatatootheei am running into many problems sftping to my host on dreamhost.com.  it works on my xp box but not my kubuntu box.  and i can still ftp to other places via kubuntu.  can someone just try this through konqueror? sftp://gatorade.dreamhost.com and ftp://gatorade.dreamhost.com ?  basically just tell me if you get your generic proimpt.  i get "connection closed by remote host," and i'm wondering if it has something to do with my kubuntu 05:29
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Hawkwindtatatoothee: Works here perfectly05:30
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Hawkwindtatatoothee: All of my sites are hosted on DH as well, and I use sftp at all times05:31
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vgetatatoothee:  works here also05:31
tatatootheehawkwind thanks.  do you have any idea why konqueror might not be connecting okay to dreamhost?  is there some block script or something?05:31
tatatootheethanks too vge.05:31
tsdgeostatatoothee: do you have ssh access?05:32
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tatatootheeyes05:32
Hawkwindtatatoothee: Does sftp work with anything else in konqueror, or do you get the same problem with all sftp requests ?05:32
tsdgeostatatoothee: then try fish://05:32
tatatootheei get the same sftp block on other programs too.  including krusader.05:32
Zarephathmorning Hawkwind:05:32
Hawkwindtatatoothee: I mean, if you use sftp in konqueror to try to get to other hosts, do you have the same problem ?05:32
HawkwindZarephath: Morning05:33
tatatootheeno i don't have the same problem going to other hosts.  other hosts work fine.  just not my dreamhsot account.  weird.05:33
Hawkwindtatatoothee: Have you talked to the guys in #DreamHost by chance ?05:33
tatatootheefish:// does the same thing.  strange.  hawkwind no i haven't talked to #Dreamhost. . . i suppose i should. . . i figured i'd start w/ kubuntu and go from there.05:34
tatatootheebecause it seems related to this system.05:34
tatatootheethough obviously since you guys are getting thru ok it's probably my config, somehow.05:35
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Hawkwindtatatoothee: Yeah seems really odd indeed.05:35
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tatatootheecan you think of some sort of config file that would configure access or not for certain hosts?05:36
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Hawkwindtatatoothee: Not unless it's something in /etc/hosts.deny or something maybe05:38
tatatootheehawkwind thanks.  etc/hosts.deny alas doesn't include anything; it's all commented out05:40
Hawkwindtatatoothee: Very odd indeed.  Jump over to #DreamHost here on Freenode and see if they can shed any light05:41
tatatootheehawkwind & co thanks.  will do.05:41
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texjoachimhi!05:43
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texjoachimcan anyone help me with a k3b problem?05:45
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Hawkwindtexjoachim: Just ask your question05:46
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Hawkwindtatatoothee: If/When you find out the answer, let me know please.  I'm curious as to what the problem is and what the fix is as well05:46
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texjoachimI'm unable to verify the burned DVDs and cds05:49
texjoachimI burn them normally and the compare always fail with "can't find ..."05:49
texjoachimand the name of the file05:49
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defrysktexjoachim, you burn the iso/dvd at highest speed ?05:50
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larss0nhey, my frostwire cant connect anyone know what the problem is ?05:54
Bubba_Gumplarss0n: have you a firewall ?05:54
larss0nyes think so05:55
Bubba_Gumplarss0n: have a tinker around :)05:55
larss0nwhat ?05:55
Bubba_Gumplarss0n: play with a few settings in your firewall, see what happens05:55
larss0nwhere can i find my firewall setiings ?05:56
Bubba_Gump!iptables05:56
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).05:56
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larss0nwhat   ?05:56
bartekHI Everyone!05:56
Bubba_Gumplarss0n: click the link, have a play :)05:57
larss0nok05:57
larss0nthx man05:57
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texjoachimdefrysk: no, I let k3b decide. the setting is on automatic. and the files are there. so it burns alright, but can't verify afterwards.05:59
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tatatootheehawkwind, see this for my first exchange on the dreamhost problem: http://pastebin.com/827444.  i don't know what the next step is.06:00
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Hawkwindtatatoothee: Hmmm, so now it seems you need to wait for one of the employees to view the ssh log on their end I guess06:02
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bobesponjahey all06:09
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bobesponjadoes anyone know how can I set IPs that are allowed to mount shares from my samba server?06:09
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dgiulianhow can i listen to mp3 music in Kubuntu?06:11
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Hawkwind!mp3 | dgiulian06:11
ubotudgiulian: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:11
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dgiulianOK thanks06:12
TheGateKeeperdgiulian, use amaroK the xine engine & install libxine-extracodes06:13
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TheGateKeeper!libxine-extracodecs06:13
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB06:13
intelikeyuse vlc  :)06:13
TheGateKeeperwell you could but amarok is already installed by default06:14
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josh__!xgl06:27
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:27
threeis anyone here using a palm in KDE?06:27
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intelikeyhmmm all /clear does in bx is pages down one page below the last post... it doesn't erase anything.06:27
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intelikeythree !i06:28
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threeare youa ble to sync kmail to your palm?06:28
intelikeyyou misread me.  !==not i==I06:29
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threeoh sorry06:30
intelikeyno palm here mate   !i06:30
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voicucould someone please tell me how do I declare a class from an external file? like using extern for functions that become available only at link time06:31
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voicuin c++ that is06:32
intelikey/join #C++      if not answered here.06:33
TheGateKeepervoicu, class MyClass;06:33
TheGateKeeperat the top of the header file06:33
voicuthat was obvious but doesn't work. i get errors concerning the scope06:34
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voicuintelikey, i didn't want to ask a question like this on #C++ :P06:35
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TheGateKeepervoicu, can you paste the code + errors ?06:36
TheGateKeeperinto pastebin06:36
voicuwell, ok06:36
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TheGateKeepermost of my coding is done with the M$ compilers but gcc can't be a million miles away lol06:37
voicuhere: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32550/06:38
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voicubut now that i think of it, it can't work :P06:38
larss0nhow do i do so the konsole is in this dir ? /home/larss0n/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam06:38
voicui mean, how can the compiler tell what's in the class without any function declaration, etc06:39
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voicularss0n, cd "/hom/larss0n/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam"06:39
TheGateKeepervoicu, 1 min while I correct06:39
milianhow would I set focus on a window from the command line?06:39
voicuyou can also browse a directory with konqueror and press F4 to open a konsole in current directory06:40
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intelikeymilian dcop prolly06:41
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TheGateKeepervoicu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32551/06:41
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voicuthanks TheGateKeeper06:42
voicubut why do I have to declare it there?06:42
voicuwhat about global objects?06:42
milianintelikey: which category in dcop? kwin? cant find anything usable06:42
TheGateKeepervoicu, well you could declare sting as global object if you wanted too06:43
voicuoh, got it :P06:43
voicuwhen declared outside main(), i have to write std::x.resize()06:43
voicuthis class thingy is kinda cool :D06:44
TheGateKeepercorrect06:44
intelikeymilian idk  but i bet that the access point.06:44
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TheGateKeepervoicu, std is the namespace & you have to be explicit06:45
intelikeymilian idk  but i bet that is the access point.06:45
voicuwait... i was compiling the wrong file06:45
voiculol06:45
voicuactually, it doesn't work06:45
voicudamn06:46
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TheGateKeeperwell you may have to declare it as std::string06:46
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Ace2016Hi all06:46
Ace2016my firefox won't work06:46
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probosehey... how do i make windows running in vmware detect a mp3 player06:47
Ace2016when i type firefox in Alt+F2 it does nothing, but if i type firefox into konsole it works fine06:47
Ace2016what gives?06:47
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TheGateKeepervoicu, http://www.msoe.edu/eecs/ce/courseinfo/stl/string.htm06:48
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S06:48
larss0nwhy ?06:48
TheGateKeepervoicu, you also need to add #include <string>06:49
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S06:49
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voicuTheGateKeeper, but string is a class I created in another file and want to have it linked later06:49
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voicuthat's why I need class string; extern; or something06:49
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S06:50
TheGateKeepervoicu, arn't you using STL ?06:50
Ace2016nevermind i sorted it06:51
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intelikeylarss0n  http://www.open-steam.org/  if no one answers you here.06:51
voicuwell, I wanna learn classes better and this would also be a good moment to make me a good string handling system06:51
TheGateKeepervoicu, don't reinvent the wheel06:52
intelikeyTheGateKeeper what better way to know why the wheel does what it does ?06:52
TheGateKeepervoicu, use the standard template library (CString if it was an mfc class)06:52
voicui'm not trying to. i'm not content with the string library06:53
voicuintelikey, my point too06:53
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intelikeyvoicu just don't ask the makers of the wheel to help you reinvent it.06:53
voicui am crazy about a leakless dynamic allocated strings :D06:54
voiculol, i could just include the file instead of using extern classes and stuff but i hate to compromise because i don't understand how to do it better06:55
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TheGateKeepervoicu, creating global variables is bad programming practise, creating classes that someone has already sorted & is readily available is worse still06:56
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TheGateKeepervoicu, you need to give it the class header file so that it knows the member functions etc06:57
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TheGateKeeperintelikey, it's just pointless06:58
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voicuyeah, that's the thing. thanks.06:58
voicuagain... i wasn't saying creating global vars is good06:58
keithI have a small question, I have onboard sound and a Live 5.1 card, Kubuntu is defaulting to output sound to onboard.  How can I make it output to my card instead?06:58
voicui know to make a good program... i just didn't like not knowing why it doesn't work06:59
TheGateKeepervoicu, :-)06:59
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voicuplus, it's not like i am making a personalized version of the kernel. just a string handler that works the way i like it06:59
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probosehey... how do i make windows running in vmware detect a mp3 player?07:00
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TheGateKeepervoicu, well that's great until some other poor sole comes along & has to maintain it07:01
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voicuhehe, or it will revolutionise the way people think about strings. i can see the blogs talking about it... :D07:02
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TheGateKeeperl8r07:03
larss0nive downloaded the cedega engine, but how do i install it07:03
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larss0nive downloaded the cedega engine, but how do i install it07:04
intelikeylarss0n filename ?07:04
delightI got kdesvn crashing my konqueror all the time ... i saw the request for backport of newer kdesvn already .. nevertheless is there a workaround for the momment .. can't stand konqueror crashing every so often07:04
larss0nCedega.v5.2.7.Engine07:04
intelikeythat's all ?07:05
larss0nyep07:05
intelikeyno .deb no .tar.gz  no .bin  ???   no .html  ?07:05
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intelikeythen i have no idea what you downloaded.07:06
intelikeytry  file Cedega.v5.2.7.Engine07:06
intelikeysee what it calles it.07:06
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voicularss0n, try right clicking the file. maybe something like 'install package' or 'extract' will appear07:07
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voicuintelikey said a better thing :D07:07
gabberciao07:07
intelikeyvoicu na just cli way opposed to gui way.   not better or worse.07:07
gabbercome va07:07
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voicuje suis tres bien :P07:08
gabberdo you spack english?07:08
gabberspeck07:08
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voicuas in speak?07:09
intelikeysome veriant slang there of yes.07:09
gabberitaly?07:09
voicuthis *is* an english channel07:09
intelikey!it07:09
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:09
gabberi'm from switzerland07:09
intelikey!fr07:10
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:10
intelikey!de07:10
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:10
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intelikeypick your take.07:10
gabberblow me07:10
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intelikey/ban you.07:10
gabbercan you lern english? please07:11
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voicu:)), some kind of bot?07:11
voicudoesn't seem very aware of itself07:11
gabberblow me..07:11
intelikey!language07:11
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:11
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Nukedis there a possibility that someone may help me with my usb thumbdrive issue?07:11
gabberi speak italian07:12
NukedI copied files to the thumbdrive last night07:12
gabbermy english isen't beautiful...07:12
Nukedand now linux and windows refuse to recognize it07:12
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intelikeynuked what does   fdisk -l /dev/sda   say?07:14
intelikeydoes it see the drive ?07:14
Nukedits not sda its sdb and It doesnt see it07:14
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intelikeyk you unpluged and repluged the usb to make sure it's not that simple i guess...07:15
Nukedintelikey: if I do it for sdb1 I get no output at all07:15
Nukedintellikey I tried that07:15
intelikeyyeah there shouldn't be output on sdb1   that would ba a partition  fdisk deals in partition tables and drive prams.07:16
Nukedintelikey: as far as I know that was the location of the drive07:17
Nukedif its not, how do I find out07:17
intelikeytry  sudo fdisk -l    see if it finds it.07:17
bunthelp07:18
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rafaguapHi all! I can't get my usb memory key and my wireless card work together: it's an issue of which message I send to kernel at boot (acpi=force or not)... What to do???07:19
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intelikeynuked is the disk partitioned or not ?07:20
Nukedno.07:20
intelikeyNuked you can look in   dmesg  for messages about it too...07:20
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intelikeyNuked hmmm then fdisk prolly wont find it.    check  dmesg07:21
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Nukedintelikey: I think its sdb07:23
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intelikeygrep -ie sd /proc/diskstats07:25
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Nuked!pastebin07:26
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:26
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Nukedintellikey http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32567/07:27
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intelikeyrafaguap you can ask in #ubuntu.07:27
BluesKajmy scrsaver quit working after resetting some kde defaults ...tried using the adpm (advanced power management) like the previous requirement but that no longer helps make it work either ...any ideas ?07:27
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gabberitaly07:27
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gabberitaly?07:28
Nuked!it07:28
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:28
intelikeyright click the desktop select preferances and set it ?07:28
ZappixHey, I can't boot Kubunut because when I re-installed windows it outlawed GRUB. How can I boot kubuntu again without re-installing it?07:28
Nuked!grub07:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:28
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intelikeyNuked sdb looks like a usb disk to me.   try  sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/"something"    <--translate "something"07:29
ZappixOh yeah, forgot about ubotu XD07:29
Zappixthanks07:29
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Nukedintellikey mount: /dev/sdb: can't read superblock07:30
ermakhow can i open mdb data base file?07:30
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Zappixwait07:30
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ZappixWhat if you don't have a LiveCD and can't get one? >>;07:31
ZappixBecause I don't have mine anymore07:31
intelikeyNuked what format is that supposed to be ?07:31
Nukedfat32 i think07:31
Nukedits only 1 gig07:31
intelikeyzappix make a grub boot disk.07:31
Zappixintelikey: I lack a CD burner >>;07:32
intelikeyNuked try   sudo mount /dev/sdb -t vfat -o umask=000 /media/"something"   and see what she says.07:32
intelikeyZappix and no floppy drive i guess...07:32
Nuked"/dev/sdb: can't read superblock"07:33
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Zappix....one's motor died and the other I don't have connected07:33
Zappix^^007:33
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gabberi don't speak english...but i speak italian...07:33
Nuked!it > gabber07:33
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intelikeyNuked that looks like a really hosed fs.    might sudo fsck /dev/sdb   but you may not have data there anymore     could install testdisk and see if it can recover it.07:34
intelikeygabber stop trolling.07:34
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NukedAttempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sdb07:35
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da0Hello, I have kubuntu 6.10, i'm trying to install ndiswrapper, does anyone have a resource/link/manual/how-to that is more in-depth than the offical ndiswrapper page? or if you have a moment i can tell you my hang up07:35
Zappixcd to the directory/file then run makefile?07:35
Zappixif the makefile command doesn't work run the updater07:35
intelikeyNuked usb subsystem problem.....  hmmm do  lsmod and pastebin it for me.07:36
Zappixdao: *points to what he just said*07:36
da0ah.. ok.. makefile did some stuff but eventually has some errors07:36
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Nukedhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32571/07:37
Zappixda0: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/07:38
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ocjeunessesluat07:38
ocjeunessekubuntu en francais ?07:38
da0i'm not able to paste it.. hrmm..it's on a machine with no connection, hence the ndiswrapper07:38
BluesKaj!fr07:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:38
da0i'll copy the text form the machine.. give me a moment.. thanks!07:39
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ocjeunessekubuntu en francais ?07:39
tamacrackerkubuntu-fr07:39
Nuked#!fr07:39
Nukedwhoops07:39
intelikeyNuked hmmm idk.  the modules are correct.  but the error "short read" means that fsck found 0 disk space on the device.    check cables  "both ends"    i really don't know what else to tell you.07:39
Nuked!fr07:39
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:39
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tamacrackerkunbuntu en francais = #kubuntu-fr07:40
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tamacrackeryo guys07:40
tamacrackerhow would I go about becoming root at all times?07:40
Nukedintellikey I just want to wipe it out so that I can use it, the data isnt worth anything07:40
Nukedsudo su07:40
tamacrackerso that I can creat a file in my /home directory atleast07:40
tamacrackerthank you Nuked.07:40
ocjeunessemerci07:40
ZappixIs it possible to boot Kubuntu by tweaking Windows' boot.ini?07:41
tamacrackerNuked07:41
tamacrackerthat didn't help07:41
Nuked?07:41
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tamacrackeri wanna be able to create folders into my home directory.07:42
BluesKajwhoever was looking for a boot manager , try GAG , it works with windows and linux in several partitions if need be07:42
raghello *, kaffeine play wmv files?07:42
Nukedtamacracker that command is to make you root at all times07:42
Nukedtype in sudo su07:42
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Nukedand see for yourself07:42
tamacrackeri did07:42
da0Zappix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32572/07:42
intelikeyNuked sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb     but that will probably fail...   if windows and linux are both at a loss on that drive then you probably wont be able to format it until you get that problem streightened out...07:42
tamacrackerand then i went into my home folder07:42
tamacrackerand i cannot create a folder in there.07:43
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intelikeyNuked tamacracker   sudo -i07:43
BluesKajintelikey, i setup the screensaver in sys/settings but after I reboot the next day the settings are gone07:43
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tamacrackersudo -i?07:43
Nukedyeah yeah, I know07:43
BluesKajor they just don't work07:43
Zappixda0: You using root?07:43
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raghello *, kaffeine play wmv files?07:43
da0hrm07:43
da0using sudo?07:43
intelikeytamacracker wait.   sudo -i is to become root  but you have permissions issue in your home ?07:44
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ZappixYeah07:44
tamacrackeryes07:44
tamacrackerexactly07:44
Zappixsudo su or something07:44
tamacrackerpermission denied.07:44
da0Zappix: no07:44
ZappixI haven't used Kubuntu in three months XD07:44
intelikeytamacracker sudo chown $USER $HOME -R07:44
Zappixdo that and then try again07:44
tamacrackeri just wanna make folders so i can hold my music there and my downloads etc..07:44
da0okay doke07:44
ZappixNow try running makefile again07:44
BluesKajNuked try GAG , it'll find your partitions and help you set up a bootpage07:45
tamacracker:(07:45
ZappixThose three months ago....I only used it for two days aswell07:45
intelikeytamacracker sudo chown $USER $HOME -R    <-- makes you own your home.   that's what you want.07:45
ZappixWait07:45
tamacrackerdoes not work07:45
ZappixDa0: Why do you need NDISWRAPPER if you have an internet connection?07:45
tamacrackerintelikey it will not let me, access denied again.07:45
ZappixOrare you doing what I had to do and move your computer to a temporary position?07:46
intelikeytamacracker sudo echo working07:46
NukedBluesKaj: it isnt a partition issue. It refuses to see my usbdrive07:46
intelikeytamacracker what's it say ?07:46
tamacrackerworking07:46
intelikeytamacracker and     sudo chown $USER $HOME -R07:46
intelikeywhat's it say ?07:47
Nukedintellikey im hoping testdisk can fix this07:47
ragintelikey: how are you!07:47
BluesKajare you trying to boot from the USB , Nuked ?07:47
intelikeyNuked luck with it.07:47
tamacrackernothing.07:47
intelikeyrag well,  and you ?07:47
intelikeytamacracker ok now make the dir.07:47
tamacrackerintelikey07:48
tamacrackercan i just open up home folder07:48
tamacrackerclick edit, create new folder07:48
tamacracker?07:48
NukedBluesKaj: that was the original purpose... until it self destructed07:48
intelikeyyes07:48
ragintelikey: well here with my children , the computers :)07:48
tamacrackerdoesn't work.07:48
intelikeyrag lol07:48
tamacracker:\ i'd like to have 100% control of my operating system lol07:48
BluesKajNuked, dunno if this will help but, ...  http://gag.sourceforge.net/07:48
tamacrackerat least ask me for a password when creating a folder in the home directory and ill be happy with that.07:49
intelikeytamacracker in the konsole type   mkdir ~/testing07:49
tamacrackerok...07:49
Nukedoh no way! it crammed 1025 mb on 978mb drive07:49
tamacrackeri make it.07:49
tamacrackeror i made it i believe.07:49
tamacrackerthough i cannot find it07:50
tamacrackerin home or tamacracker directory.07:50
da0Zappix:  the linux box is another machine.. i only have wireless available.. this box i type on is a win machine07:50
ZappixOh.07:50
da0Zappix: I used the sudo and it make this and that with no errors07:51
Zappix:D07:51
intelikeytamacracker oh..... lol   you have no access to /home  only root can write there.   it's in /home/tamacracker  your $HOME directory...   lol07:51
da0Zappix: I appreciate your help.  I have a question for you.. what dist do you use like?07:52
intelikeyusers home (by default) is  /home/username    never /home   (unless specifically setup that way)07:52
tamacrackerso only in /home/tamacracker i can make a folder?07:52
tamacrackernot in /home?07:52
Zappixda0: ?07:52
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intelikeytamacracker yes true.07:52
Zappixda0: I have Windows and Kubuntu on my HDD07:52
ZappixKubuntu I only used for three days07:52
Zappixbecause I had to reinstall Windows and that killed GRUB07:53
intelikeytamacracker if you want to change that do this.   sudo chown $USER /home07:53
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intelikeyafter that you can do anything in /home you want.07:53
da0Zappix: ah.. yes.. thanks for your help!  gonna get this machine online.. woohoo!07:53
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ZappixIf your drivers are compatible ^^007:53
da0they are07:53
ZappixOh, cool07:53
ZappixLucky, mine arent >>;07:54
da0many are not :(07:54
tamacrackerYes!!07:54
Zappixyeah07:54
tamacrackerthat's what I'm talkin bout intelikey!07:54
da0d-link07:54
intelikeytamacracker the problem we had is in the terminology.  "my home"  in linux  translates to what ever  echo $HOME  outputs.  not /home07:54
Zappixda0: When I go out shopping for new hardware (I need a new motheroard and processor) I'll probably get a $20 card aswell07:54
NukedCould not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated ?! what the.......?07:54
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tamacrackernow if i restart X will i have to type that command again in order to access my home/music files?07:54
intelikeytamacracker no07:55
intelikeychange is perminant07:55
tamacrackeri understand that07:55
tamacrackerbut lets say07:55
tamacrackerwith nicotine07:55
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tamacrackerwhich uploads and downloads through the music folder07:55
vincenzociao a tutti07:55
tamacrackerthe music folder will be in /home/music07:55
tamacrackerwill it allow the music folder to be modified without the command?07:56
Kim^JAny fun problems to solve?07:56
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intelikeytamacracker and you own /home and /home/music and should own /home/music/*   which means you do anything you want too.07:56
tamacrackerok cool07:56
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intelikeyno more permission denied07:56
slow-motionhallo07:56
tamacrackerwithout having to retype the command everytime i log on07:57
Kim^JWhy does he own /home and not root ?07:57
tamacrackerright?07:57
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intelikeyhow many ways do i have to say this.    CORRECT!07:57
tamacracker;D07:57
tamacrackerwooot07:57
intelikeyright07:57
intelikeyyes07:57
tamacrackerLOL07:58
tamacrackerI'm sorry07:58
intelikey:)07:58
intelikeynp07:58
tamacrackerit's just the security is really strict on this07:58
intelikeyyour welcome.07:58
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Kim^Jintelikey: What what what???07:58
tamacrackerand i still haven't found a book on commands07:58
tamacrackerfor ubuntu.07:58
intelikeyKim^J cause he wanted to.07:58
Kim^Jtamacracker: Buy a Linux for dummies.07:58
adaptrtamacracker: commands for ubuntu ? oh boy07:58
adaptrjust get the rute users guide and start reading already07:58
tamacrackeryeah... there's like what... maybe 30+ commands?07:58
intelikey!cli07:58
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands07:59
intelikeytamacracker ^07:59
tamacrackeryes!!!07:59
tamacrackerthat's what i need!07:59
Kim^Jtamacracker: There are no special commands for Ubuntu.07:59
adaptrtamacracker: absolutely.. if you consider 3500+ to be 30+, which is theoretically correct07:59
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tamacrackerha :D07:59
Kim^J2362 commands.07:59
Kim^Jtamacracker: Very basic.07:59
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tamacrackerthat's all i need07:59
tamacrackeri dont really like to depend on people07:59
tamacrackerwhen it comes to terminal08:00
intelikeyif you want more indepth try  rute-book08:00
tamacrackerand basic things like updates, installing, removing etc..08:00
Kim^Jtamacracker: Start with man man and then work all /bin commands.08:00
adaptrtamacracker: you don't need to, that's the beauty of it08:00
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tamacrackerthanks guys :)08:00
intelikeytamacracker enjoy.08:00
tamacrackeri shall08:01
NukedFAT : 16 32 ?                 Searching for FAT table 10%08:01
Nukedoh man08:01
adaptrwell, FAT is very nice to have, if you need it08:01
intelikeyand btw  rutebook - Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book    is still relevent even though it's considered old.08:02
tamacrackercool08:02
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NukedI just want to know how 600 mb of stuff turned into 1025 mb on a usb drive08:02
intelikeyit's big like a dictionary.08:03
intelikey2 copies ?08:03
adaptrNuked: very easily - if the block size of the USB drive is ridiculously large and there are lots of small files08:03
wildchildoff topic question: what's the name of donkey serv with most users?08:03
adaptrmegamule ? uberdonkey ? WHAT kind of question is that ? :)08:04
Nukedadaptr: this is a normal 1 gig thumb drive08:04
intelikeywell before some one else gets me tied up i need to go.08:04
Nukedcheers08:04
intelikeynuked hope you get it all sorted out.08:04
Nukedme too thanks08:04
adaptrNuked: never said it wasna - what does the partition table reveal ? how is it set up ?08:05
Nukednothing that I can tell you at the moment08:05
Nukedlinux refuses to recognize it08:05
Nukedand its the same for windoes08:05
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adaptrif Linux refuses to recognise it, then how come you can copy files to it ?08:06
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knubbewhy do my ktorrent download everything twice?08:06
adaptrknubbe: because you have more than one program associated with torrents ?08:07
knubbe(ktorrent 2.0.3)08:07
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mikepencehey all08:07
mikepenceI am looking for cool, dark theme for KDE08:07
knubbeadaptr: "BitTorrent" is the program associated with .torrent's08:07
mikepenceany pointers?08:07
adaptrknubbe: then where does ktorrent come into it ?08:07
knubbeadaptr: when i start downloading the torrent (not the actual .torrent-file), it downloads it twice.08:08
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S08:08
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S08:08
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S08:08
larss0nmy steam is not starting :S08:08
adaptrwith what do you download it ?08:08
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adaptrI presume you meant you downlaod the .torrent twice, and not the *target*08:09
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knubbeadaptr: like now, for example, im downloading a linux-distro, 700mb. and i have downloaded 470mb of the 700mb so far. but it say that its only 31% complete.08:09
adaptrthen how did you verify that you have, in fact, downloaded 470MB ?08:10
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knubbeadaptr: thats what ktorrent says08:10
adaptrI'm still betting even money that you're downloading it twice08:10
knubbeDownloaded: 470mb, Total size: 700mb, Percent: 31%08:10
knubbethats weird08:11
knubbeadaptr: well. yea. it is downloading the contents twice.08:12
knubbeadaptr: if find that quite unnecessary though08:12
adaptrknubbe: so , back to my original question: is it therefore perhaps linked to two different torrent downlaoders ?08:12
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knubbeadaptr: im not sure im following, but there's only one "tracker" if thats what you mean?08:13
adaptrno, that's not what I mean08:13
knubbeok08:13
adaptrif you feed a torrent to two different downloaders, I'm pretty sure it will get downloaded twice - exactly like one would expect08:14
adaptrand since the default behaviour of these applications is to pick up on the fact that you've downloaded the .torrent with a browser, it'll mostly happen invisible to you08:14
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ubuntugreat :o08:15
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jpouillere08:15
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knubbeadaptr: oh. ok.08:16
bartekHi Everyone!08:16
bartekii ned some help08:16
barteki mean java ;/08:16
adaptrHola, bartek08:16
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polhello08:16
adaptryou need some java ? what, you wanna come over for a good cuppa ?08:16
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Vladdy:-/08:17
Vladdybad kubuntu cd08:17
bartekadptr i need some cammand or something like taht to install java on firefox08:18
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froverwhere i can get repositories08:19
propietariowhat kind of repositories?08:20
bartekadaptr can you help me??08:20
froverbasic repositories08:21
adaptrbartek: with installing java ? just use the add/remove programs applet08:21
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larss0nHELLO HOW CAN I UPGRADE FROM 6.06 -----> 6.1008:22
larss0nsorry caplslock08:22
bartekbut i want innstal java plugin to firefox08:22
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larss0n6.06 -----> 6.10 whre can i find scripts to update kubuntu08:23
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larss0n6.06 -----> 6.10 whre can i find scripts to update kubuntu08:24
larss0n6.06 -----> 6.10 whre can i find scripts to update kubuntu08:26
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MorrisseyHi, I think I did something to screw my fonts up in firefox ... all my fonts look great otherwhere in KDE, but specific in firefox they look really crappy .... anyone know how to fix?08:26
Morrisseythis is what I did: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig08:27
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Morrisseymaybe I screwed something up then :)08:27
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bartekok must go seee yaa!08:29
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harmentalhi..does anybody knows where can i find a good version of pacman or ms pacman for linux???08:36
linxAnyone know about wifi on a fujitsu lifebook b-2547?08:37
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larss0nwhre can i se in kubuntu what version i have08:37
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Morrisseywich is better of beryl/compiz and 3ddesktop?? Im currently using the last one because I think it uses less memory, correct?08:38
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fdovinglarss0n: kmenu -> system -> konsole , run the command 'lsb_release -cr08:39
fdovinglarss0n: without the '08:39
larss0nthx08:39
larss0nwhat can i type in the console to update to edgy08:40
fdoving!upgrade08:40
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)08:40
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fiddlerkann mir jemand verklickern wie ich meine nvidia karte an laufen bekomme....krise08:42
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fdoving!de | fiddler08:43
ubotufiddler: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:43
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seraphangel!fiddler08:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiddler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
anirbanHow to install Fire fox in Kubuntu08:44
anirbanI did sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install firefox08:44
anirbannothing happens08:44
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seraphangelupdate firefox from what version?08:45
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seraphangelif my adept manager is hanging at installing and has been for last coupld hours will shutting it down and restarting the install mess with anything?08:46
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rcarrI am having to compile an older version of the ieee80211 subsystem to get my wireless card to work08:48
rcarrand on make it deletes the source directory rather than doing anything, anyone experienced this?08:48
rcarrthe ssame package seemst ow ork for other people, and I can't find anything in the makefile08:48
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yahalommy kdewallet doesn't remember my password! when  i check the settings it has them all stored. any ideas?08:51
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moneyfirstI'm looking for a good download manager that can split download. could you recommend some? thx08:51
fabichehi08:51
tamacrackerGuys... when I add a new panel..08:51
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tamacrackera docking panel08:52
tamacrackerit doesn't let me configure it.08:52
fabicheHow to configure 3d DESKTOP with Xgl & nvidia plz /Q me !!!  HELP me !!08:53
yahalomnobody else have this issue/08:54
yahalom?08:54
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anirbanI have no version of firefox installed Sepaphangle08:55
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d0uglasHi. Running gnome-terminal in kde. How can I specify which browser gnome-terminal uses when launching urls? It's not paying attention to what i have set in the kontrol panel or whatever08:58
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tamacrackerCan someone please tell me why I cannot configure my dock panel?08:58
tamacrackeri cant even add applications to it from draggin and dropping.08:58
coreymon77guys08:58
coreymon77is a 700mb cdrw enough to burn the edgy iso?08:59
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tamacrackeryes08:59
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d0uglasno you need the special 703mb burners08:59
coreymon77okay08:59
tamacracker....08:59
d0uglassorry that wasn'st funny09:00
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coreymon77i just didnt know if you needed a cdr or if a cdrw could do it09:00
d0uglascdrws are wimpy09:00
tamacrackerUh... I'd stick to CD-R.09:00
tamacrackerYo can someone help me with my panel problem?09:00
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tamacrackerLast time I was able to actually modify my panel... now I can't do with it.09:01
d0uglasotoh you do save a lot of pennies with cdrws (if you reuse them just in time before they die photovotalically)09:01
joriktamacracker: right click your panel and unlock it ?09:01
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tamacrackerits unlocked09:02
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pocohi09:02
tamacrackerthis is extra panel, my docking panel so that i can add applications to it that i tend to use a lot.09:02
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pocoi have no more net on my system... interface eth0 seems not found (nothing in dmesg too)09:03
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adaptrpoco: what does "ifconfig -a" say ?09:05
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adaptrpoco: or "lspci -v", for that matter09:05
pocolo0 sit009:05
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anirbanwhen ever I try to do aptitude install firefox09:05
adaptrpoco: is this a normal PCI card, or a PCMCIA NIC ?09:05
pocoadaptr, nothing with lspci, got a "illegal vendor id unknown device ffff (rev ff)" on the last line09:05
anirbanI get a mesg No Candidate version found for fire fox09:06
adaptrpoco: looks like it may be toast - I would try to open the box and re-seat the card, then see what happens09:06
pocoadaptr, a powerpc card, it worked until the last system update (a not completed one)09:06
adaptrpoco: there's no such thing, it's either PCI or not PCI09:06
Bubba_Gumpin amarok, has anyone noticed the playlist displaying track times incorrectly09:07
adaptranirban: so there probably isn't one - you tell us mighty little to go on here09:07
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adaptrhah - I'm now waiting for alter_ego to be known as "the_same_guy" :)09:08
tamacrackerDoes anyone know why the docking panel is not allowed to be configured?09:09
KotetsuBubba_Gump: I only have that on some songs09:09
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khirrfile: No such file or directory09:12
khirr/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java: error while loading shared libraries: libpthread.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:12
khirrkhirr@khirr-desktop:~$09:12
khirrwhy?09:12
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khirrwhy this error?09:15
pocook, my eth0 card is a sungem pci on an imac g3 it is now unrecognized by my kubuntu system after an upgrade (my old kubuntu cdrom still recognize it)09:15
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pocoGot a illegal vendor idd unknown device with lspci09:18
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hadeshow i can install on my 6.06 kde 3.2 or newer09:19
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hadesthe newest one09:19
Vuen_hey guys, rather simple question here, where do i configure my screensaver?09:19
adaptrpoco: you earlier said "incomplete upgrade" - that could be painful09:19
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hadescan i upgrade my old kde to the 3> version ?09:19
pocoadaptr, strange no ? it's only a kernel thing...09:20
flattersrhi room09:20
flattersrhaving a slight problem with kubuntu09:20
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pocoadaptr, ok, the sungem module was not loaded...09:21
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flattersrthe screen is slightly off the right, which mean that some of the icons on my menu options are partially displayed09:22
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flattersris there a way of correcting this09:22
max_where are the bootsplash screens located?09:22
pocoflattersr, using the buttons on your screen ?09:23
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poco(hard screen)09:23
Vuen_argh09:23
Vuen_guys09:23
Vuen_where do i configure my screensaver?09:23
flattersrhard screen?09:23
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max_where are the bootsplash screens located?09:24
bubu1ukfor some reason my kaffeine doesnt' want to start. it used to. now i only get that running icon when it's starting, but then it disapears, and it doesnt really start09:25
pocoflattersr, the monitor09:25
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bubu1ukany1 knows what can be problem?09:25
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pocobubu1uk, start it inside a konsole to see the rror09:26
bubu1ukno error09:26
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bubu1uktried to reinstall kaffeine and kaffeine-xine, no result09:26
pocoecho $?09:26
thomerzhi, can i ask questions about installing fglrx here?09:27
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bubu1ukhow do i do that echo? echo $kaffeine?09:27
Vuen_guys, seriously. kubuntu must have a screensaver somewhere. where is it?09:27
khirrhow can i change one file name since kopnsole?09:28
pocoVuen_, in the control panel ?09:28
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pocoor maybe also right-button on the desktop and then somewhere09:28
khirrsince konsole?09:28
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hadeshow i can upgrade my kde from 6.06LTS to the newest version of kde ?09:29
pocobubu1uk, type "kaffeine", and then "echo $?"09:29
bubu1ukVuen_: control panel > desktop09:29
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bubu1ukpoco: no output.09:29
pocohades, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php09:29
Vuen_ah, Desktop. that's a pretty obscure place to put it.09:29
Morrisseyhi, how can I filter out wich packages installed takes up most of my space?? is there a way?09:29
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pocobubu1uk, and after the echo $?09:29
bubu1ukvuen_: u can do it if u right click on desktop and properties.09:30
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bubu1ukpoco: did 'kaffeine echo $', right?09:30
pocokaffeine; echo $?09:30
okonhi09:30
pocohi okon09:30
okonsombody have p5b motherboard?09:30
bubu1ukpoco: output is '$'09:31
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okoni just installed edgy09:31
okonand get grub error 2109:31
pocobubu1uk, try kaffeine -v ?09:31
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okontried to find some info but seem to be a problem with the kernel09:32
Alter-Egoi am getting "quits" in programs I use09:32
bubu1ukpoco: gives me versions of qt, KDE and kaffeine09:32
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bubu1ukpoco: kaffeine --verbose doesnt give me output too09:32
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pocookon, maybe the devices specified in boot.conf are not correct ?09:33
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Digital-PioneerHi. I'm in Kubuntu Edgy, and whenever I right-click to pull up a context menu, I get one or two message boxes that I have to OK before getting the menu.09:34
Digital-Pioneer"Couldn't connect DCOP signal. Won't receive any status notifications!09:34
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Digital-Pioneer"09:34
okonpoco : do u have an idea how i can find it out09:35
bubu1ukpoco: any other ideas?09:35
tamacrackerdoes anyone know how to check which version of flash i have, im missing fonts, so im assuming i need to update.09:35
okonpoco: tried to compile new kernel 2.6.18.2 but without effect09:35
bubu1ukokon: does kernel points to right partitions, where it should be?09:35
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pocookon, paste your /boot/grub/grub.conf somewhere09:36
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okonbubu1uk: yes but i think its a known bug for 2.6.1709:37
josh_i dont understand something09:38
HawkwindThere is no such file as /boot/grub/grub.conf09:38
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josh_3d things in beryl are really slow09:38
HawkwindIt's actually /boot/grub/menu.lst09:38
josh_but i can drag a laggy 3d window and its perfectly smooth09:38
okonpoco : in /boot/grub/ is no grum.conf do u mean menu.list?09:38
Hawkwindokon: /boot/grub/menu.lst09:38
josh_so does it mean that the video card is doing beryl and my cpu is rendering 3d?09:38
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pocoHawkwind, menu.lst is no more used09:38
josh_#kubuntu-xgl09:38
bubu1ukokon: yes, menu.lst09:39
josh_#ubuntu-xgl09:39
bubu1ukjosh_: tryin to join channels?09:39
Hawkwindpoco: Yes it is09:39
Hawkwindpoco: grub.conf has never existed09:39
Hawkwindpoco: He's on Dapper, not Edgy09:39
pocomm..09:40
josh_yeah lo09:40
josh_i'm in the one i want09:40
josh_could anybody help though09:40
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jamonationanyone know why a machine won't allow me to login through ssh from one host but will another?09:41
ubuntuhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/e1zJO236.html09:41
okonpoco: http://rafb.net/paste/results/e1zJO236.html09:41
bubu1ukjamonation: does it use same port?09:41
jamonationbubu1uk: yeah09:41
jamonationhosts file(s) is/are clean09:41
jamonationis there a log of ssh events I could check?09:42
jamonationnothing in /var/log/messages09:42
poco/var/log/sshd/current ?09:43
pocodepends on your logger...09:43
jamonationcool, I'll check09:43
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pocookon, "/sbin/fdisk /dev/hda" type "p" and check the partitions ?09:44
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okonpoco: everything rigth09:45
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seraphangelwhats the command to give the reg user permission to use a drive? i cant open any of my files on my other drives since only root has the permissions09:45
okonpoco: do you know where there is a deb of <generic> 2.6.18 kernel?09:46
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seraphangelanyone know?09:50
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adaptrseraphangel: there is no "command" - you have to either set the right permissions or alter the mount parameters to allow said permissions09:51
seraphangeli already set right mount parameters and still same would i have to restart?09:52
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seraphangeland chmodint the drive 644 doesnt work09:52
adaptrseraphangel: what kind of data are we talking about ?09:53
seraphangelvideo files09:53
adaptrand what does it say the permissions actually *are* ?09:53
seraphangelall say locked09:53
khirrsome one of u can send my the library libpthread.so.0??09:53
seraphangelbut weird cuss 2 of the files dont say theyre locked09:53
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khirr!libc609:59
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9988 kB09:59
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tamacrackerdanny10:00
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Yaccin!svn10:03
ubotusvn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/10:03
josh_ubuntu-xgl10:03
josh_#ubuntu-xgl10:03
Yaccin-_-10:03
Yaccinwhy doesnt ubotutells me in which repo svn is?10:04
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Yaccini know that svn is something like cvs -_-10:04
Hawkwind!info svn10:04
ubotuPackage svn does not exist in any distro I know10:04
Hawkwind!info subversion10:04
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ubotusubversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB10:04
josh_does anybody have experience with cedega?10:04
Hawkwindjosh_: The guys in #WineHQ do :)10:05
josh_thx10:05
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syockuh.. hello. My display settings show that I have an NVIDIA GeForce 6 Series device using nv driver, even though i`ve set it to use nvidia driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf . Is this normal?10:11
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gnomefreaksyock: did you install nvidia-glx?10:12
syockI installed it in Ubuntu, do I need to reinstall here as well?10:12
gnomefreakno10:12
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gnomefreaksyock: what happens when you change the driver from nv to nvidia?10:13
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gnomefreaksyock: and than restart X10:13
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arrautzahi10:13
syockhow?10:14
syocklet me try that first10:14
gnomefreaksyock: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:15
khirr!libpthread.so.010:15
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libpthread.so.0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:15
khirrlibpthread10:15
khirr!libpthread10:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libpthread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:15
khirrmare..10:16
fdovingkhirr: use apt:/ in konqueror, or http://packages.ubuntu.com10:16
fdovingaway.. tv.10:16
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khirri've couldnt found this10:16
khirrdo u have this library?10:16
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syockgnomefreak: I think I did that a while back before, it changes just xorg.conf and nothing else AFAIK10:17
gnomefreaksyock: is your busid right?10:18
syockgnomefreak: how do I look that up?10:18
gnomefreaksyock: pastebin the output of lspci -v10:18
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syockgnomefreak: 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100]  (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )10:19
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syockgnomefreak: so i set it at 0:5:010:20
syockgnomefreak: should be alright right, wright?10:20
gnomefreaksyock: it should be 00:05:010:20
gnomefreakmaybe 00 at end10:20
syockgnomefreak: it`s not the same?10:20
gnomefreakhold on a sec10:20
gnomefreakno10:20
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gnomefreaksyock: mine is 02:09.0 and i had to set mine to 02:09:010:21
gnomefreakin xorg.conf it left off the 05 and was just 510:22
gnomefreakso had to change it to get it to work10:22
syockokay restarting X10:22
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gnomefreaksyock: you have X?10:24
arrautzahow can paste on nano??10:24
gnomefreakarrautza: cant really :(10:25
arrautzacopy & paste?10:25
syockgnomefreak: Just as I thought, it didn`t change anything on Display Settings. I wonder if I can just ignore?10:25
gnomefreakarrautza: nope10:25
arrautzai don't know...10:25
jerroldnew to linux..newer to kubunto..but i installed kxdocker thru apt-get and the adept manager gui...its in the taskbar..but when i launch it through there..it tries to do something but nothing shows up10:25
arrautzacan i?10:25
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arrautza:(10:25
jerroldfrom the console i get a "cannot connect to X server" error..any ideas?10:25
syockarrautza: if you run on GTK terminal maybe you can10:25
gnomefreaksyock: i dont understand what you mean10:25
arrautza??10:25
Nukedyeah, my usb thumbdrive committed suicide last night10:25
gnomefreakarrautza: you have a gui?10:25
jerroldarrautza: you cant copy with ctrl-c from some gui..and middle mouse click in the nano terminal to paste10:26
gnomefreaksyock: you have to change it. if i understand you right10:26
arrautzai wont to improbe my source list and kate can't open it... so i think on nano...10:26
jerroldcan copy with ctrl-c soryr10:26
arrautzagonna try thnk10:26
gnomefreakarrautza: do you see menu or kicker or anything10:26
arrautzaon kate or on nano?10:27
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aimtrainer hi! Soemhow I cant write "d" in my console. In other applications the d-key doess work - anybody an idea?10:27
jerroldanyone have kxdocker working with kubuntu? gettin beryl to work was easier than this :P10:27
syockgnomefreak: Well, KDE has its own special control panel, right? And it has this display settings too, but it incorrectly displays my display driver as nv instead of nvidia. Though I`m convinced that my X is running on nvidia. So I think it may be a bug on KDE`s part.10:27
gnomefreakarrautza: on your desktop10:27
jerroldarrautza: you can ctrl-c copy from kate, and middle mouse click to paste into nano10:27
gnomefreaksyock: no thats normal10:27
arrautzamy desktop is clear10:27
arrautzathkns jerrold10:27
gnomefreakarrautza: is it black or do you see a K in the left bototm corner10:27
Nukedwhich java package should I install?10:27
gnomefreakjerrold: if hes in tty he cant C&P10:28
gnomefreakNuked: sun-java5-plugin10:28
jerroldanyone have exp with kxdocker?10:28
arrautzaI see the K10:28
gnomefreakNuked: unless for devel10:28
jerroldgnome: oh right..ya..10:28
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gnomefreakarrautza: ty than copy and paste will work fine in kate10:28
jerroldbut he said he's using kate10:28
gnomefreakor nano10:28
gnomefreakjerrold: he said kate wouldnt open10:28
Nukedgnomefreak: will that work for opera?10:28
arrautzakate can't open souce.list10:28
gnomefreakarrautza: sources.list10:29
arrautzarigth sory10:29
arrautzasrry10:29
gnomefreakNuked: once its installed. you have to set the path in opera10:29
gnomefreak!opera | Nuked10:29
ubotuNuked: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser10:29
gnomefreakNuked: that will tell you what to add and where10:29
NukedI dont use the opera in the commercial repos10:29
NukedI use the weekly builds10:30
jerroldno one with kxdocker experience? :P10:30
gnomefreakNuked: doesnt matter10:30
Nukedjerrold I had installed it, but never got around to using it10:30
Nukedlol gnomefreak10:30
gnomefreakNuked: all your looking at is the java path10:30
PsiKloPxafter working fine under dapper I'm pulling my hair out trying to get my linksys pci wireless card to work after installing edgy (full install - not upgrade)  - I've followed instructions I've found on the forums with no luck.  How can I reset everything to start over?10:31
gnomefreakjerrold: last i heard it didnt work too good10:31
syockgnome, cool you`re like handling every problems posted here. I wonder how you can react so fast to many questions10:31
gnomefreakjerrold: i have also been gone for 5ish days10:31
Ace2016hi again10:32
gnomefreaksyock: i am in 20 or so channels atm too10:32
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jerroldnuked: i installed it thru apt-get..but it doesnt seem to do anything ;p cant connect to xserver...im using beryl + nvidia drivers as my desktop10:32
Ace2016whats command that shows output of something line by line?10:32
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gnomefreakAce2016: what do you mean?10:32
syockcrazy!!!10:32
gnomefreakAce2016: you can do    command | less10:32
Ace2016gnomefreak: i want to look at ./configure --help line bu line10:32
Ace2016oh right less goes after the command10:32
Ace2016right got it, thanks10:33
gnomefreakAce2016: try ./configure --help | less but not sure if it will work with ./configure never tried it10:33
arrautzaGnome or kde??? i have kubuntu , but all my friends tell to change to ubuntu...10:34
Ace2016kde is the best10:34
syockarrautza: Ha ha, some friends you have10:34
Ace2016if you go from kde to gnome you will miss features all over the place10:34
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gnomefreakarrautza: use what you like  dont rely on others opinions10:34
Nukedseriously10:35
|lostbyte|arrautza, Make them change to kubuntu.10:35
Ace2016the gnome file dialogue drives me insane i hate gtk10:35
arrautzahahahaha.... thks10:35
syockarrautza: just stick with what you have first10:35
Nukedarrautza: try them all! MUAHAHAHA10:35
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syockNuked: To be frank, I just installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop today for that purpose10:36
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mutlu_inekAce2016: agree10:36
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syockI`m trying out KDE checking out what it`s all about, figuring out how to do common tasks... now passing out? just kidding10:37
arrautzakde looks much more like windows... thats give the krisp10:37
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coreymon77guys10:37
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khirrhow can i do to when my dapper load, look as edgy load...10:38
khirris that part of kde 3.5.5?10:38
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Ace2016khirr: you mean the ksplash theme?10:39
syockSo is it also normal for KControl to allow only refresh rates of 50, 52, 53, 54 Hz at 1280x1024? Because my monitor has a vrange of 55-76, and it`s also in xorg.conf already.10:39
khirryes..10:39
khirrmean....load bar10:39
Ace2016khirr: just after grub? or after the login screen?10:40
khirrwhen kubuntu is loading...y talk about load bar10:40
khirryes10:40
coreymon77guys10:40
khirrafter grub10:40
gnomefreaksyock: check the rates on your monitor from thier website. i found ubuntu didnt set right rates so i changed them10:40
khirrbefore login screen10:40
coreymon77my friend is trying to use kbuntu live cd10:40
khirrafter grub10:40
arrautzahave anyone experience with an 64 bit computer?10:41
coreymon77but his boot sequence is the default hard drive is firrst priority thing10:41
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gnomefreak!usplash10:41
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto10:41
coreymon77can you guys help me explain to him how to change the boot sequence10:41
coreymon77?10:41
Ace2016coreymon77: change the order or change what starts and what doesn't?10:41
syockgnomefreak: well I`ve checked and reconfigured xserver-xorg accordingly. It still doesn`t show up right in KDE. It`s okay in gnome though.10:41
gnomefreakkhirr: there is the way to change dappers usplash to edgys if you have edgys downloaded10:41
Ace2016coreymon77: bum can change what starts10:42
coreymon77no10:42
khirrbut, i dont wanna use edgy, i wanna use dapper, but, i'd like see load bar as edgy10:42
syockgnomefreak: actually gnome, on the other hand, only allows a refresh rate of 75 Hz10:42
gnomefreaksyock: that maybe a kde issue but Xorg spans over any gui10:42
coreymon77i want to change it so that if there is a bootable cd in the drive10:42
coreymon77it will boot off of it first10:42
coreymon77and not the hard drive10:42
syockgnomefreak: ha, thought so10:42
coreymon77i know how to do it10:42
coreymon77ive done it myself10:42
Ace2016i miss dapper's loading bar, i think it looked better10:42
gnomefreakcoreymon77: set boot from cd in your bios10:42
coreymon77i just need help explaining it to my friend10:42
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khirrT_T10:42
gnomefreakAce2016: take the word quiet out of the boot options in grub menu.lst10:43
khirris the load bar a theme?10:43
coreymon77gnomefreak: i know that, ive done it, ive had that setting for years, im just having ytrouble explaining to my friend hwo todo it10:43
gnomefreakcoreymon77: that depends on the system not ubuntu. dell uses like f3 at boot time or F1110:43
gnomefreakkhirr: the theme is the whole picture with loadbar and rest10:44
khirruhmm, i'l back i half hour, i gonna install dapper10:44
khirrbrb10:44
gnomefreakwait10:44
syockcoreymon77: isn`t that some bios setting10:45
gnomefreakkhirr: i dont think edgys will work on dapper10:45
coreymon77yes10:45
coreymon77it is10:45
gnomefreakjust remembered the colors were changed10:45
syockcoreymon77: depends on what bios your friend uses. usually f2 during boot starts the BIOS setup10:45
syockor was it f8? or f12?10:46
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syockor even DEL?10:46
gnomefreaksyock: system bios differ10:46
syockha, thought so10:46
coreymon77wait a sec10:46
gnomefreakwould have to know the bios version/type of pc it is10:47
Vladdyhmm.. I'm trying to build a kernel that will be binary compatible with ubuntu's kernel, but I can't find any info on how to accomplish that10:47
syockcoreymon77: ask your friend what kind of screen it starts with10:47
coreymon77im getting him to this channel10:47
coreymon77two secs10:47
syockcoreymon77: good luck on Ubuntizing10:48
coreymon77guys10:48
coreymon77i already have edgy10:48
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coreymon77ive used kubuntu for a very long time10:48
coreymon77right noe10:48
coreymon77im converting y friend10:48
gnomefreakdemanding code?10:48
coreymon77bringing him to the light10:48
coreymon77if you knwo what i mean10:48
gnomefreakcode is open10:48
Vladdybut I can't find how to get it..10:48
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Vladdyneed to patch kernel for loop-aes support preferably without breaking all possible modules, kind of hard without same kernel tree as ubuntu's10:49
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gnomefreakVladdy: if its open source and in ubuntu repos just grab the src repos10:49
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syockcoreymon77: Ask him to tell us what his screen looks like when his PC boots up10:50
syockhim or her?10:50
gnomefreakVladdy: apt-get source packagename10:50
coreymon77its a him10:50
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Vladdyit gives some weird  'meta'10:50
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Ace2016if i am to compile vlc should i compile ffmpeg from svn too?10:50
Vladdylinux-mea-2.6.17.1010:50
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Vladdydidn't know what to do with it10:50
Ace2016nevermind10:51
gnomefreakVladdy: i think you want linux-source10:51
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syockany KDE experts here?10:51
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Vladdyhow do I build it, though :S10:52
Vladdywhen i try debian/control configure it fails on sanity check10:52
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pullercan i have help configuring kopete?10:52
CVirussyock: just ask your question10:53
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pullercan somone help me configure sound in kopete?10:54
syockCVirus: is it normal for KControl`s display settings to show my NVIDIA card using nv driver even though it`s set to nvidia in xorg.conf?10:54
ben2213212310:55
syock2132123.... is it some lucky number?10:58
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Vladdyah lol.. old config should work :D10:59
CVirussyock: most probably its a bug ... glxinfo | grep rendering10:59
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Vladdystill, kernel source package is v2.6.17.13 and my /boot kernel is v2.6.1010:59
Vladdy:S10:59
syockCVirus: it says direct rendering: Yes11:00
Vladdy2.17.10*11:00
CVirussyock: file a bug report regarding KControl then11:00
syockCVirus: yup, i had it load GLX11:00
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syockCVirus: maybe I`ll check out any existing bugs regarding this one11:04
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ironfroggyany idea why k3b would say it cant write with a device but k3bsetup says everything is OK?11:05
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keithI installed Edgy fresh on my Desktop this morning, and I got sound out of my 5.1 card, worked great. I rebooted, now it's showing my onboard sound as primary (and it's even disabled in BIOS). How can I make my sound go back out of my Sound Blaster?11:06
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bobbydHi, I'm trying to get zeroconf to work, but it's not living up to it's name :) I have two edgy installs, I ticked the "enable zeroconf network browsing" on both machines, but I can't see anything when i use the zeroconf:/ ioslave in konqueror11:07
bobbydanyone got any ideas on how to debug it?11:07
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arrautzaanyone have experience with 64 bits processor'11:08
syockarrautza: Hi! I`m currently running Kubuntu on AMD6411:09
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e3I'm under the stong impression that installing athlon64 version of kubuntu is a really painful process that only super experienced users should really attempt.11:13
joskar_I just did that?11:13
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e3http://polishlinux.org/linux/ubuntu/kubuntu-606-on-athlon-64/11:14
joskar_I have another issue however...getting SLI to work..can't seem to work that out :/11:15
e3Programs run faster, but many of them you have to emulate in 32bit mode which is fairly simple. Firefox under 32bit mode is the only way to run flash.11:15
ironfroggyk3b is trying to use the wrong device. how can i configure which device it tries to write to?11:15
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e332bit mode is extremely important. and the link i gave explains a lot. im a new users so i dont know much more than that.11:15
keithI installed Edgy fresh on my Desktop this morning, and I got sound out of my 5.1 card, worked great. I rebooted, now it's showing my onboard sound as primary (and it's even disabled in BIOS). How can I make my sound go back out of my Sound Blaster?11:16
Darkoanyone know how to activate berly xgl11:16
arrautzadarko... darko from chile?11:16
Darkono11:16
Darkoserbia11:16
arrautzaha sorry11:16
syockif you don`t care about 64-bit computing you can always resort to the 32-bit version11:16
Darkok11:17
e3I strooongly recomend 32bit versions of kubuntu :D11:17
arrautzai have a 64 bit computer & i install a 64 bit version of kubuntu...11:17
e3Download the 32bit then : p11:17
arrautzabut have problems with nicotine or flash player11:17
syocke3: I remember running the new Flash 9 Beta under 64... or was I wrong?11:17
mutlu_inekDarko: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX11:17
Darkoi been there11:17
Darkoi instaled it11:18
syocki used automatix2 though11:18
e3I dont think flash9 runs on 64bit but im not entirly sure.11:18
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Darkoi have a configuration panel11:18
mutlu_inekso?11:18
Darkobut i can not activate it11:18
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arrautzai think not11:18
Darkoand i have ati card11:18
soulriderhi everyone11:18
Darkowith ati drivers running11:18
mutlu_ineksorry, I don't know anything about ati11:18
mutlu_inekmaybetry the beryl forum11:18
Darkook just asking "D11:19
e3ati needs to get off their fat bums and program some awesome ati radeon drivers11:19
Darko:D11:19
Telroth_Plushie|Darko, try #ubuntu-xgl11:19
e3*GRR at stupid ati*11:19
Telroth_Plushie|they help will almost anything that's 3d/graphics card related11:19
Darkotnx :D11:19
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Alter-Egook, bluefish will not save, it just goes away, edgy, what is going on ?11:20
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arrautzae3 have you run flash player you say?11:29
arrautzayou have... sorry11:29
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xabiii need help, i have a asrock k8nf6g-vsta , kubuntu doesn't recognize the integrated lan card11:41
xabiiis a realtek phy rtl8201cl11:42
xabiiwhat can i do?11:42
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pullercan i have help with soudn in kopete?11:42
Imaginehow can I import the pgp.mit.edu key?11:43
scott_w|lappypuller: yes11:43
Nukedwhere the heck is java?11:43
scott_w|lappypuller: like notifications?11:43
fdoving!java | nuked11:43
ubotunuked: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:43
pullerscott_w|lappy, well i am using kopete in gnome ubuntu edgy and it has no sound11:43
scott_w|lappypuller: have you configured any notifications?11:44
pullerscott_w|lappy, is there a way to switch the sound to use gnome soudn i think it is trying to use arts11:44
scott_w|lappypuller: give me two minutes11:44
pullerscott_w|lappy, yes i have configure notifications and the soudn ones dont work11:44
pullerscott ok11:44
arrautzamy lap top have an integrated camera... but i loose it since i hve kubuntu ( the software was for windows) how can i detect it??11:45
scott_w|lappypuller: i don't think it's trying to use arts11:45
scott_w|lappypuller: my kubuntu install doesn't have arts installed iirc11:45
fdovingpuller: you can configure arts to output to esd (gnome sound).11:45
scott_w|lappyor.. maybe it does =/11:45
scott_w|lappyweird11:45
scott_w|lappythought it didn't11:45
fdovingscott_w|lappy: i belive it does. kdelibs depends on arts.11:45
Telroth_Plushie|no, arts is part of the base install11:45
Telroth_Plushie|yeah11:45
pullerso how can i get sound in kopete to work on gnome?11:46
scott_w|lappypuller: as an aside, does it work in KDE?11:46
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fdovingpuller: do you have kcontrol installed?11:46
pulleryes it did when i used kde11:47
pullerkcontrol no because i am in gnome11:47
scott_w|lappypuller: try running the arts daemon artsd11:47
scott_w|lappyin gnome11:47
scott_w|lappysee if that works11:47
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fdovingpuller: if you open a terminal, and run the command 'kcontrol' does it start something?11:48
scott_w|lappyis my love of transparency perverse in any way?11:48
scott_w|lappyi find myself making everything transparent =/11:48
pullerfdoving, nope i dont have kcontrol11:48
scott_w|lappyi might have a problem11:48
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pullerrunning  artsd also didnt work11:50
pullerany more ideas?11:50
scott_w|lappyi'm out11:51
pullergrr this is stumping everyone11:51
fdovingpuller: hang on.11:51
pullerfdoving, hanging11:52
scott_w|lappypuller: don't let go!11:52
Nukedthis is nuts. Opera cannot validate the java path (/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java) If thats not it, I don't know what else to put in its place11:52
pullerlol11:52
fdovingpuller: can you install kcontrol, package name is 'kcontrol'11:53
pullersure11:53
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pullerfdoving, its installing11:54
Nukedsomebody willing to help with this crazy java?11:54
fdovingpuller: when it's installed run it, from a terminal or from a 'run command..' dialog.11:54
fdovingpuller: navigate to 'sound & multimedia -> sound system'11:55
pullerok11:55
pullerthen what11:55
fdovinggo to the 'hardware' tab.11:55
fdovingselect 'Enlightened Sound Daemon'11:55
pullerwait11:56
Telroth_Plushie|Nuked,11:56
pulleri only see soundsystem, system bell, and system notifications in the soung & multimedia11:56
Telroth_Plushie|use /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0/11:56
Nukedyes Telroth_Plushie|11:56
fdovingpuller: select soundsystem.11:56
Telroth_Plushie|Nuked, err, /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/11:57
fdovingpuller: then inside the soundsystem module, you find two tabs 'General' and 'Hardware' right?11:57
pulleryes11:57
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fdovingpuller: go to the hardware one.11:57
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pullerok11:57
NukedTelroth_Plushie|: I tried that, and whats weirder is I tried locate libawt.so... nothing11:57
Nukedill try again11:57
fdovingpuller: Then you can select the sound device, in the drop down list, select 'Enlightened Sound Daemon'.11:58
pullerfdoving,  next?11:58
pullero11:58
pullerok11:58
pullerthen hit apply?11:58
fdovingpuller: after that, hit apply. yes.11:58
Telroth_Plushie|Nuked, is the sun-java5-jdk package installed?11:58
fdovingpuller: then try to make some sounds in kopete.11:58
NukedTelroth_Plushie|: this just got weird11:58
NukedI entered in the path you gave me11:59
Nukedand it was like, lets use this one instead /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/lib/i38611:59
NukedI entered that twice11:59
pullerfdoving,  great that worked!11:59
pullerthanks a bucnh11:59
Nukedbut I hit validate and all of a sudden its there11:59
fdovingpuller: ok, now hang on a bit longer11:59
pullerfdoving, why?12:00
fdovingpuller: to make this work when you start your gnome session you need to autostart artsd with your gnome session.. i'm not sure how to do that.12:00
pullerok12:00
Nukedthanks Telroth_Plushie|12:00
pullerfdoving,  can u help lme figure it uot12:00
fdovingpuller: you can start with runnin 'ps x|grep artsd' in a terminal session, copy out the command.12:00
fdovingpuller: mine says '/usr/bin/artsd -F 7 -S 1024 -a alsa -s 2 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f' yours will say something similar.12:00
pullermine says this12:01
pullermike@mike-desktop:~$ ps x|grep artsd12:01
puller 6479 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a esd -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f12:01
puller 6566 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep artsd12:01
pullermike@mike-desktop:~$12:01
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fdovingpuller: correct. hang on, i'll google for the gnome-way of autostarting things at login time.12:01
pullerok12:02
pullerthanks12:02
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bronaughwhee.12:05
pullerlol12:05
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bronaughkubuntu net installer... aka -ubuntu- net installer. complete with ubuntu, not kubuntu, graphics :P12:05
bronaughbut at least I don't have to burn a CD using the machine I'm about to install to.12:05
oshWhat to do when wireless stopped working for no apparent reason? It seems to be registered with the AP but I don't get an IP.12:06
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bronaughdid the wireless work at some point?12:07
pullerfdoving, tell me when you get that figured out12:07
oshbronaugh: yep. I've been running it for weeks. It stopped working tonight. For no apparent reason. Downloading some stuff with a program that uses lots of connections...12:07
bronaughoh yeah?12:08
bronaughyou sure the router didn't just keel over?12:08
oshbronaugh: I've removed modules, restarted both the router and computer just to be sure. It works on this one that I'm writing on now (also wireless) but not on my "new" machine.12:08
fdovingpuller: put the command in a file, let's say your homedir/bin or something.. save it as artsd.sh (the command is '/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a esd -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f'), go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions -> Startup Programs.. add homedir/bin/artsd.sh there.12:08
khirris there KDE installer?12:09
pullerfdoving, ok i am confused12:09
syockOoh I now have two panels! Apparently I cannot change settings for the second one. Bummer12:09
bronaughosh: ok.12:09
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bronaughosh: so ... what changed?12:09
oshVery annoying.12:09
Telroth_Plushie|khirr, try "sudo apt-get install kde"12:09
pullercan u explain it a little more simplier?12:10
oshbronaugh: Not sure. I've done some upgrades but nothing that's required me to restart the machine.12:10
fdovingpuller: ok. do you have the terminal open?12:10
khirrthere isnt12:10
khirrshould i try withsource list?12:10
pulleryes12:10
oshVery strange that it works for one computer but not the other.12:10
khirrwhat shold i agree?12:10
bronaughosh: which wireless driver12:11
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khirr!repository12:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:11
fdovingpuller: ok. first we make a directory for scripts, we'll name it bin. run the command 'mkdir ~/bin'.12:11
pullerok12:11

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