[06:43] <towsonu2003> hi
[06:44] <Madpilot> hi towsonu2003 
[06:45] <towsonu2003> is everyone in here also a member of the ubuntu-doc mailing list?
[06:46] <Burgundavia> mostly
[06:46] <towsonu2003> let me give this link here as well https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-November/007385.html
[06:47] <towsonu2003> (in case some ppl aren't members)
[06:47] <Burgundavia> towsonu2003: right, that is on my todo
[06:47] <Burgundavia> let me look at right now
[06:47] <towsonu2003> thanks :)
[06:48] <Burgundavia> looks good
[06:48] <Burgundavia> couple of points
[06:48] <Burgundavia> use wiki links, not the full url
[06:48] <towsonu2003> donno how :)
[06:48] <Burgundavia> rather than http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Blah, just link to Blah
[06:48] <Burgundavia> if isn't a WikiWord, use ["Blah"] 
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> I have one note to make on the Conexant page - would you like to hear it or should I just go ahead?
[06:49] <towsonu2003> Oh, that wouldn't be explanatory enough...
[06:49] <towsonu2003> tonyyarusso, you can just go ahead :)
[06:49] <Burgundavia> you can also link [:Blah:link text] 
[06:49] <towsonu2003> Burgundavia, hmm, let me try that 
[06:50] <Burgundavia> the next thing I would do is segment out the common bits
[06:50] <Burgundavia> and have a standardized page for each of the subpages
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> As an aside, it would be awesome if it automatically returned you to the page you had wanted to edit after you log in.
[06:50] <Burgundavia> also, you need a "how do I tell what kind of modem do I need?"
[06:50] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: yes, yes it would
[06:51] <Burgundavia> lastly, for the configuring to connect out, have one method for each DE
[06:52] <Burgundavia> ignore other methods. If you think that involves using something from main by default, that is ok
[06:52] <Burgundavia> not from main, rather
[06:52] <towsonu2003> let me fix the links first heheh
[06:52] <Burgundavia> that was a lot of feedback, I realize that
[06:53] <Burgundavia> random link: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Greg_Williams
[07:03] <towsonu2003> Burgundavia, ok, done the links, also tweaked the main wiki page a little to show people that they need to use scanModem tool to find which driver they need. the segmenting of common bits and standardized subpages are a little out of my league as each instruction is very very much unique for each driver / chipset. What do you mean by "one method for each DE"? Is DE = ubuntu / kubuntu / xubuntu? tonyyarusso, if I'm not misun
[07:03] <towsonu2003> derstanding, that's something the website developers could fix (I'd like it as well). --Sorry for the long text :)
[07:04] <Burgundavia> towsonu2003: yes, one for uubntu, kubujtu and ubnuntu
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> Interesting spelling
[07:04] <towsonu2003> lol
[07:06] <Burgundavia> and why is that something the website people need to fix?
[07:11] <towsonu2003> Burgundavia, I think tonyyarusso wants to go to a wiki page, login from there, and once logged in, s/he wants the wiki to automatically send him/her back to the wiki page s/he initially was in. If I'm not misunderstanding this, that's not something i can do :)
[07:11] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:11] <towsonu2003> login = enter username and password to edit the wiki
[07:11] <Burgundavia> towsonu2003: but you are not superman?
[07:12] <towsonu2003> not yet :(
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Becoming superman shalt be thy goal, for, say, Tuesday.
[07:12] <towsonu2003> I'm working on a patch to become one :p
[07:21] <towsonu2003> ok, done the one dialer per DE as well (almost: you always need the alternative ways, bc for some the GUI won't work)
[07:21] <towsonu2003> poor nixternal though... he got at least 10 emails just after my edits...
[07:22] <Burgundavia> ok, cool
[07:22] <Burgundavia> ask again for antoerh round of reviews if you want to
[07:22] <towsonu2003> could you please tell others (as you see them) to check out the new wiki page (best to refer them to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-November/007385.html)
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72291 in kubuntu-docs "Problem with the application khelpcenter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72291
[07:31] <fumbalah> Hiya :)
[09:12] <Burgundavia> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=301720
[09:15] <mdke_> *clik*
[09:16] <Burgundavia> just responded
[09:17] <mdke_> i'll add something
[09:17] <Burgundavia> thanks
[09:19] <mdke_> what's all the "help discussion group" business?
[09:20] <Burgundavia> help discussion group?
[09:20] <pygi> mdke_, what's about me/susan commit access? ^_^
[09:21] <mdke_> Burgundavia: "About a year ago the Help discussions group ran an attempt to destroy the ubuntuguide. They attacked anyone who gave ubuntuguide as an answer on the forums.
[09:21] <mdke_> They alienated many people and it will take some time to repair the damage they did."
[09:21] <Burgundavia> ah, right
[09:21] <mdke_> pygi: I haven't heard anything about it.
[09:21] <mdke_> ooh, there is a documentation tag on the forum. ROCK
[09:21] <pygi> anyone did? :P
[09:21] <mdke_> pygi: did what?
[09:22] <pygi> mdke_, heard ^_^
[09:22] <pygi> I mean, we should have gotten that ages ago once it got into the svn I thought
[09:25] <mdke_> pygi: as far as I know the guide was imported by Rich, who had to do a lot of work to make it valid. Generally, access is granted when we've seen patches which demonstrate that people are able to write valid docbook, because of the risk of invalidating existing documents. I would have thought that the best person to ask in nixternal, since he'll have seen your work
[09:26] <pygi> mdke_, oki, thank you
[09:27] <mdke_> we need to document our process for granting svn access, really