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HobbseeRiddell: ping?04:20
freeflyingmorning all :)04:22
Hobbseehey freeflying!04:23
imbrandonHobbsee: he's probably somewhere on a plane home if i had to guess :)04:36
imbrandonheya freeflying 04:36
Hobbseeimbrandon: ahh right04:36
freeflyingimbrandon: hi04:44
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=== Mez glomps Hobbsee
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Mezhehe my spam worked then Hobbsee ?05:19
HobbseeMez: yeah, when i looked at it05:19
HobbseeMez: is there anything actually going on in there?05:21
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MezHobbsee, yes, we have a (slow) class going on05:21
Hobbseeahh05:21
Mezyou might want to read the transcripts after05:21
Hobbseeprobably05:21
Hobbseethen again, i should already know all of that05:22
MezHobbsee, it's still a learning experience for if you ever want to make your own class05:22
Hobbseetrue05:22
HobbseeMez: if there are packagers there, are you planning to teach about debsign?05:22
HobbseeMez: if you do, mention debsign -r as well05:22
Mezif it's asked about I'll answer05:23
MezHobbsee, -r? remote changes signing /05:23
HobbseeMez: yes05:24
HobbseeMez: if you're covering debsign, you should cover debsign -r, especially with the popularity in build farms05:24
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DaSkreechSaw some of the specs for fiesty05:42
DaSkreechWhy do we need ubiquity to be qt?05:49
Mezbecause otherwise it means including the gtk libs on the livecd05:50
DaSkreechSo reverse Edubuntu05:51
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DaSkreechJucato: !06:39
Jucatohi DaSkreech06:39
DaSkreech:-)06:39
DaSkreechKq just crashed my keyboard06:39
DaSkreechLets try that again!06:39
MezDaSkreech -> http://bugs.launchpad.net/06:40
Jucatohi Mez06:40
DaSkreechIf I can replicate it06:40
Mezhi Jucato 06:40
DaSkreechI'm sure I've asked this before. How do you get in contact with maintainers?06:40
HawkwindDaSkreech: Email them ?06:41
imbrandonDaSkreech: email06:41
DaSkreechHawkwind: Which you can find ... where?06:41
HawkwindDaSkreech: In the changelog06:41
DaSkreechHmm 06:41
DaSkreechWhich adept doesn't support as yet :(06:41
imbrandonin the package description and copyright06:41
imbrandonbah06:42
HawkwindDaSkreech: Please tell me you're joking06:42
HawkwindAdept sucks, mainly cause it's GUI06:42
Jucato:P06:42
DaSkreechNot really :) That's what a lot of people would use06:42
HawkwindDaSkreech: Not true at all06:42
DaSkreechAnd when they see things like The Debian Team06:42
DaSkreechit's off putting06:42
HawkwindGUI package managers are known not to work, in any distro06:42
imbrandonDaSkreech: wrong on both accounts06:43
DaSkreechok I'll back off it then :)06:43
HawkwindDaSkreech: changelogs.ubuntu.com   No need for some silly GUI package manager :P06:43
imbrandonnormaly the user just wants to know where to file a bug, as do the package maintainers, i rarely want to get a direct email06:43
imbrandonand most do NOT use adept06:43
HawkwindSomeday someone will create a GUI package manager that actually does exactly what it's CLI counterpart does.  But don't look for that to happen in the next 10 - 15 years06:44
DaSkreechok ok :-)06:44
Jucatowhy that long, Hawkwind? :)06:44
imbrandoni realy realy hate when you troll though DaSkreech , you should know by now where to find the maintainer info in a package, if not why are you asking support questions in a -devel channel06:45
DaSkreechcause then we would have evolved beyond GUI's and no one would use them anyway06:45
HawkwindJucato: It just can't be done.  Every distro has tried it, several times.  None have been successful yet06:45
MezHobbsee, how do you think the class is going06:46
HobbseeMez: i /parted out of it earlier06:46
Mezah kk06:46
HobbseeMez: looked very long before - i'm not sure how good the +m on it would have been06:46
Jucatomotu-classroom?06:46
Hobbseeyep06:47
Jucatoooh... someday...06:47
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MezJucato, no06:47
Mez#ubuntu-classroom06:48
MezNUN stuff06:48
Jucatoah06:48
Jucatothat one... (the one I don't attend anymore)06:48
Hobbseeoh, there06:48
MezJucato, why not ?06:48
Jucatothe times made it extremely inconvenient for me to attend.06:50
JucatoI attended the first 5 (I think) and provided transcripts06:50
Jucatobut I just couldn't keep up06:50
Jucatotoo bad the class I missed today seems to be an interesting one06:51
MezJucato, GNUPG :D06:53
Jucatoyeah... :(06:54
Meztranscripts will be available06:54
Jucatoyay! someone else doing the transcripts? (I feel a bit guilty for "abandoning" the classroom...)06:54
Mezlol06:54
Jucatohm... I was able to make 4 transcripts only... baaad06:55
Jucato18:00 UTC = 4:00 AM here, 4:00 UTC = 12:00 PM (I'm always not around at that time)06:56
DaSkreechGPL java doesn't affect Fiesty?07:01
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freeflyingdose kdm supports pam defaultly?09:42
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fdovingfreeflying: yes.11:05
freeflyingfdoving: thanks11:06
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tomamoguh01:43
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joe3kfreeflying: ?02:26
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bddebianHowdy03:44
Riddellblurgle03:45
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bddebianblurgle?03:47
Riddellit's what I feel like just now re-adjusting to GMT03:48
Kryczekhaha03:52
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webbenWhy can kdelibs5 not be installed alongside libqt4-dev-kdecopy?08:04
webbenHow is one supposed to run qtmake-qt4 with the second development snapshot of kde?08:05
danimohi08:30
danimoare there regular kde 4 packages for feisty already?08:32
danimo(with respective backports to edgy)08:32
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webbenthere are kde4 packages for edgy08:38
webbendanimo, look at the kubuntu front page08:38
webbenbut i can't get the latest ones to allow me to compile stuff with cmake08:38
webbenwhich is a bore08:38
danimowebben: yes, that's a snapshot.08:39
danimowebben: with regular I mean as in "daily svn snapshots"08:39
danimowebben: suse does that for instance08:39
webbenoh08:40
webbenthen no i guess08:40
webbensounds nice tho08:40
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Vaske_CarCan anybody help with ASUS driver? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30254409:22
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=== _Sime plug 'n' played his digital camera. And it worked without stuffing around! whoohoo!
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gnomefreakbug 6805312:07
UbugtuMalone bug 68053 in azureus "Eclipse will not start (Edgy)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6805312:07
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