[12:12] <syock> I don`t know why, but I feel like going back to GNOME. I can`t see what`s so customizable about KDE
[12:12] <osh> bronaugh: ipw2200 I think. I seem to remember something about that now. Something about how you load the module....
[12:12] <Telroth_Plushie|> syock, what would you like kde to do?
[12:12] <bronaugh> muahaha. Intel wireless.
[12:12] <bronaugh> crrrrap
[12:12] <puller> syock, i did the same thing!! i heard kde was soo cool so i switched then i went back to gnome
[12:12] <syock> Telroth_Plushie|: geez I don`t know. Maybe become fancier than beryl?
[12:12] <fdoving> puller: then, we need to make the script that will execute our command at startup, run: echo '/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a esd -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f' > ~/bin/run-artsd.sh
[12:13] <puller> syock, onlything i liekd in kde was kopete and i am workign on gettign that to work now in gnome
[12:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> syock, you can change both panels, at the top there's a dropdown, change it from "Main Panel" to the panel you want to edit
[12:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> syock,
[12:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> kde is a desktop environment, beryl is a window manager
[12:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> you can run both at the same time
[12:13] <osh> bronaugh: Not much to do. It came with the dell my boss bought me.
[12:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> that's what I'm doing now
[12:13] <puller> fdoving, ok i ran that
[12:13] <Telroth_Plushie|> no reason to duplicate code.
[12:13] <bronaugh> osh: great.
[12:13] <bronaugh> could always swap the minipci card, but whatever. that's neither here nor there
[12:14] <syock> Telroth_Plushie|: Uh, it has like Main Panel and External Taskbar (which I already deleted), but no other panels?
[12:14] <bronaugh> osh: so what does iwconfig say right now about the AP?
[12:14] <puller> fdoving, whast nect
[12:14] <puller> next*
[12:14] <bronaugh> err, about the wireless config?
[12:14] <syock> Telroth_Plushie|: Maybe bug in new KDE
[12:14] <roxley> # Appears as ANNA
[12:14] <osh> bronaugh: it gives a mac-address. the same one that this comp sees.
[12:14] <fdoving> puller: ok, now in the gnome menus. go to 'system -> preferences -> session'.
[12:14] <bronaugh> osh: ok, so it's associated.
[12:15] <bronaugh> what does route -n say?
[12:15] <osh> bronaugh: seems like it.
[12:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> syock, i haven't tested it fully, tried right clicking on the panel you wanted to edit and select "configure" ?
[12:15] <roxley> (#G010E114RM1) jajaja
[12:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> *have you tried
[12:15] <puller> fdoving,  ok
[12:15] <osh> bronaugh: nothing. I have no IP. and dhclient just times out.
[12:15] <fdoving> puller: once it's opened, select 'startup programs'
[12:15] <bronaugh> dhclient timing out is kinda wierd.
[12:15] <bronaugh> does dmesg say anything interesting?
[12:15] <ubuntu_> hi
[12:15] <syock> puller: what`s hot about kopete? Is it that video conference support?
[12:16] <ubuntu_> please, i cant mount my hd on live cd =
[12:16] <fdoving> puller: ok.. i noticed something new here.. well clean everything up once this is done. hit the 'Add' button.
[12:16] <puller> fdoving ok
[12:16] <osh> bronaugh: except that I just did a dhclient eth1 and now I got an IP. This has to be the most annoying error ever. I HATE errors that fix themselves.
[12:16] <puller> fdoving,  can we move quicly i gtg soon
[12:16] <syock> Telroth_Plushie|: Yup. It pulls out one for the main panel regardless of which panel I right clicked on
[12:16] <bronaugh> osh: yeah, transients can be kinda difficult.
[12:16] <fdoving> puller: paste '/usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -a esd -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f' into that box.
[12:16] <puller> syock, kopete is hot becuase u can customize stuff
[12:16] <fdoving> puller: then hit ok.
[12:17] <bronaugh> osh: as I said, look at dmesg; see if you can see anything interesting. could be some badness to do with the transmit buffer screwing up.
[12:17] <syock> now I have 3 panels on! ye ha. But alas, I can only configure one...
[12:17] <syock> Maybe things become brighter after next login...
[12:17] <puller> fdoving,  ok
[12:17] <osh> bronaugh: thanks for amusing me while my computer fcked itself up a bit.
[12:17] <Morrissey> Hi, when I do a "fglrxinfo" i get a: "OpenGL version string: 1.3.1091 (X4.3.0-8.28.8)"    but most forums show that they get a version 2.0(something) ... how and do I need to upgrade?
[12:17] <osh> bronaugh: good hint. I'll have a look at that.
[12:17] <puller> fdoving,  anythign else?
[12:17] <fdoving> puller: ok. now it's added. you can safely delete the 'bin' directory in your home directory.
[12:17] <puller> fdoving,  so is it all good now?
[12:18] <bronaugh> osh: often on my card, that's what's happening; but mine's an acx100 (reverse engineered driver) so I'm never surprised by such errors.
[12:18] <fdoving> puller: all good now.
[12:18] <puller> k thanks u were an awsome help
[12:18] <puller> gtg now
[12:18] <bronaugh> on the plus side, I have master mode. :P
[12:18] <fdoving> puller: ok, bye.
[12:18] <bronaugh> I love being able to be an AP.
[12:18] <osh> bronaugh: that's what I'm on right now. also I got an error about "NETDEV_TX_BUSY". Might be worth checking up on that.
[12:19] <bronaugh> osh: yeah, that sounds like a possible.
[12:19] <bronaugh> if it couldn't tx for some reason, dhclient obviously wouldn't get anywhere.
[12:19] <osh> bronaugh: Seemss plausible. Again, thanks for your company and help. Now, back to what I was doing... =)
[12:20] <bronaugh> osh: no problem :)
[12:20] <syock> as i had suspected. After relogging in I can now configure all panels. Now the world is mine!!!
[12:20] <Telroth_Plushie|> yup :)
[12:21] <syock> there, the news ticker looks much better on a tiny panel. I wish I know how to program one for GNOME
[12:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> syock, do you have any remote webservers/a website that you develop?
[12:21] <syock> Telroth_Plushie|: No. Why?
[12:21] <Telroth_Plushie|> well
[12:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> it's one of the major features i love about kde is the kio slaves
[12:22] <ubuntu_> please guys, could anyone help me to mount a partition under live cd
[12:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> i can use any protocol from any application
[12:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> ubuntu_, sudo mount /dev/hdxx /media/mountpoint
[12:22] <Telroth_Plushie|> xx is drive/partition
[12:23] <osh> ubuntu_: yea, what Telroth_Plushie| said...
[12:23] <ubuntu_> but im on live cd!
[12:23] <Morrissey> How do I know wich ATI driver I have?
[12:23] <ubuntu_> theres nothing on /media
[12:23] <osh> ubuntu_: then just create a /mnt/whatever and mount it there.
[12:23] <bronaugh> ubuntu_: so create a directory in there.
[12:24] <Telroth_Plushie|> bbl
[12:24] <slow-motion> n8
[12:29] <syock> Wow, you mean I can`t use panel while configuring News Ticker? All other applets seem fine though. Maybe newsticker is kinda old perhaps by chance?
[12:31] <Ayabara> how do I configure system standby stuff in Kubuntu? I want my display to be turned off after 30 min inactivity.
[12:34] <rexo2> are you serious?  well menu   system   preferences , then power management and or screensaver  ought to do it  >to Ayabara
[12:34] <khirr> i've clossed konsolope runing apt-get..now i cant use adep, how can i kill that process?
[12:35] <joskar_> I have trouble installing NVIDIA drivers...when I reboot I just get the command-line thing :/
[12:35] <bronaugh> man; can't wait to copy my music over to the bloody server.
[12:35] <rexo2> well,,, open terminal   ps -A  , then look for process number for konsolope  ,, then kill  number   >joskar
[12:35] <coreymon77> hey guys
[12:35] <Ayabara> rexo2, I'm serious :-). I can't find any such setting in screensaver, and I have no power management choice there
[12:36] <coreymon77> remember the friend i was talking about
[12:36] <bronaugh> 240 gigs of RAID1 space. yeah, I am down with that.
[12:36] <coreymon77> with the boot sequence
[12:36] <Whopper> yea
[12:36] <Whopper> :P
[12:36] <coreymon77> whop[pers the guy i was talking about
[12:37] <coreymon77> so
[12:37] <coreymon77> could you guys help him out?
[12:37] <rexo2> hmmm yes I see that,, am looking > Ayabara
[12:37] <coreymon77> syock:
[12:38] <coreymon77> gnomefreak:
[12:38] <joskar_> rexo2: There is no 'konsolope' in that list
[12:38] <Ayabara> rexo2, ok. I have power management in my task bar, but all I can choose is what to do when I shut the lid of my laptop
[12:39] <coreymon77> guys
[12:39] <coreymon77> can anyone help out with how to reorder the boot sequence
[12:39] <coreymon77> so that it will search for cds first?
[12:39] <jamonation> anyone tell me how to run memtest on a 5.04 livecd?
[12:39] <jamonation> from the boot prompt?
[12:39] <coreymon77> whoppers here for 5 mins
[12:39] <coreymon77> so could you please help him out a bit?
[12:40] <Whopper> umm...
[12:40] <bronaugh> go into the BIOS, reorder the boot sequence?
[12:40] <coreymon77> yes
[12:40] <bronaugh> in older award BIOSes, it's in advanced setup
[12:40] <bronaugh> boot sequence CDROM,C,A
[12:41] <Whopper> k
[12:41] <coreymon77> but whopper needs to know how to get in the the bios setup
[12:41] <bronaugh> in newer BIOSes it's under the boot menu, and you follow the directions on screen to reorder it.
[12:41] <bronaugh> hit <del>
[12:41] <Whopper> ah
[12:41] <bronaugh> or follow directions on screen.
[12:41] <coreymon77> i think it may be a dell though
[12:41] <Whopper> coreymon77: yes, it's a dell
[12:41] <coreymon77> ya
[12:41] <bronaugh> sometimes it's F1, sometimes F2, sometimes F10, sometimes CTRL+ESC, sometimes CTRL+ALT+ENTER
[12:42] <rexo2> >Ayabara .. look like DPMS in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  is what you might want to look at...  start with man xorg.conf and read up .. you will need admin rights for edit of xorg.conf
[12:42] <bronaugh> sometimes you just whack the keyboard until you get a keyboard error, and get in that way.
[12:42] <Whopper> ok
[12:42] <coreymon77> del computers
[12:42] <coreymon77> whats the key for them?
[12:42] <bronaugh> depends what age.
[12:42] <Ayabara> rexo2, ok. I'm installing kpowersave now. maybe that'll do the job
[12:42] <Whopper> 2001
[12:43] <Whopper> it's older :S
[12:43] <bronaugh> on the 386es and 486es you used to be able to get into the BIOS by hitting CTRL+ALT+Enter at any time.
[12:43] <bronaugh> it was pretty hilarious.
[12:43] <coreymon77> well he has two computers
[12:43] <rexo2> >Ayabara .. ok ...
[12:43] <bronaugh> just hit <del> would be my guess.
[12:43] <bronaugh> but really.. read what's on screen.
[12:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> it should tell you when you boot up
[12:43] <bronaugh> it'll tell you, in 99% of cases.
[12:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> press xyxy to enter setup
[12:43] <coreymon77> the one hes thinking of putting lubuntu on is a 2001 packard-bell
[12:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> where xyxy is a key
[12:43] <bronaugh> and where it doesn't... hold down some key
[12:43] <bronaugh> chances are that'll cause a keyboard error, which'll get you into the BIOS.
[12:44] <Whopper> ko
[12:44] <Whopper> ok*
[12:44] <coreymon77> the one hes thinking of putting lubuntu on is a 2001 packard-bell
[12:44] <coreymon77> anyone know about those ones?
[12:44] <bronaugh> and yeah, I'm a sick and twisted fuck for knowing all of this.
[12:44] <bronaugh> just follow what I said.
[12:44] <Whopper> lol
[12:44] <Whopper> ok
[12:44] <bronaugh> it's a heuristic, but it works.
[12:45] <khirr> i've installed dapper 30 min ago, but i cant listen music on amarok..why?
[12:46] <bronaugh> I'm guessing because you don't have the MP3 codec.
[12:46] <khirr> win32 codecs?
[12:46] <bronaugh> no.
[12:46] <joskar_> I still have trouble installing NVIDIA drivers, help anyone?
[12:46] <khirr> so, what codecs?
[12:46] <coreymon77> thanks for the help guys
[12:46] <bronaugh> khirr: the MP3 codec. I have no clue what package the ubuntards have put it in.
[12:47] <khirr> if i put mp3 on adept...will find them?
[12:47] <bronaugh> try again, this time in english?
[12:47] <Ayabara> rexo2, kpowersave seems to handle the dpms stuff. thanks for helping
[12:48] <rexo2> >Ayabara .. ok thanks.
[12:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> khirr,
[12:49] <Telroth_Plushie|> !mp3
[12:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <rexo2> still have slackware 10.2 and wixXP on this system, but this Ubuntu was sooo easy to install and configure, I haven't used other OS since installing.
[12:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> i use xp only for HL2 and unreal tournament 2k4
[12:54] <joskar_> How do I enable SLI?
[12:54] <bronaugh> yeah, I think the easy factor is the reason most of us are installing it.
[12:54] <Telroth_Plushie|> easy, and it stays up to date
[12:54] <bronaugh> shrug... my laptop runs debian unstable.
[12:55] <bronaugh> that stays up to date too :P
[12:55] <bronaugh> except that they still don't have firefox2
[12:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> see
[12:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> :P
[12:55] <bronaugh> I have Xorg 7.10
[12:55] <Telroth_Plushie|> why not run debian experimental then?
[12:55] <bronaugh> or 7.1.0
[12:55] <bronaugh> I have Deb experimental sources.
[12:55] <bronaugh> deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian ../project/experimental main
[12:56] <rexo2> well, I like tweaking, but also need a stable system..
[12:57] <bronaugh> unstable's pretty stable.
[12:57] <bronaugh> a few interesting packaging issues, but that seems to be about it.
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> i want bleeding edge, even if it results in me being that one that's bleeding.
[12:57] <joskar_> SLI? Anyone?
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> edgy is stable from what i've used it fore.
[12:57] <Telroth_Plushie|> *for
[12:57] <bronaugh> joskar_: I'm guessing you mean with nVidia cards?
[12:57] <bronaugh> join #nvidia if so.
[12:57] <joskar_> k...thanks
[01:01] <rexo2> did have an interesting time getting two nvidia and one ibm on main board working with 3 monitors though... refered to my existing slackware for help..
[01:01] <rexo2> xinerama
[01:01] <unix_infidel> dvi+vga+vga?
[01:02] <rexo2> no.. i have one, but on installed as it kept my tv card from working.
[01:03] <rexo2> got to have the composite input for the ps2 gt4 racing game to unwind after work.
[01:05] <rexo2> it was vga vga svideo  and i don't have any svideo monitor/tv ..
[01:06] <rexo2> but the dual nvidia was nice anyways and freed up one pci slot.
[01:06] <bronaugh> heh
[01:06] <Alter-Ego> http://pastebin.com/827745
[01:06] <Alter-Ego> why am i a getting a seg fault with bluefish ?
[01:07] <rexo2> is bluefish similar to nvu  .. web page design?
[01:09] <drumhed> anyone able to get fglrx running in edgy?
[01:09] <rexo2> nvu works good for me,  haven't tried bluefish.
[01:10] <drumhed> im having trouble getting dri and setting "composite" extension to off
[01:10] <drumhed> any help appreciated
[01:13] <Alter-Ego> bluefish is very powerfull
[01:14] <Alter-Ego> i am getting a segfault related to .gtk-bookmarks
[01:14] <Alter-Ego> i assume that i don't have gtk installed, but i am not sure why bluefish would not have looked at this dependancy first
[01:14] <Morrissey> Hi, do I need composite?? Unfortunally ATI doesnt support it with DRI yet ... but what is it? Can I use ie: Bery/compiz?
[01:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> Beryl/Compiz require composite
[01:15] <Telroth_Plushie|> for help with getting them running, visit #ubuntu-xgl
[01:15] <rexo2> yes .. probably more program then i need.  are you up to getting source and libs and compiling on your own system?  >Alter-Ego
[01:16] <Alter-Ego> i have done LFS
[01:16] <rexo2> yes... more that up to the task i see ... >Aler-Ego
[01:17] <Morrissey> ok Telroth_Plushie|  thanks
[01:17] <drumhed> morrissy-  i know, tell me about it.. catch 22 for me is that when I try do disable composite to gain dri, xorg barfs and says section "extensions" is invalid.. argh
[01:18] <Morrissey> drumhed, exacly
[01:19] <Morrissey> same happened here ... you _have_ to disable it for glx to even work
[01:19] <drumhed> something is borked here
[01:19] <drumhed> documentation not adding up
[01:19] <Telroth_Plushie|> (shoulda gone with nvidia ;) )
[01:20] <obf213> !mp3
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[01:20] <obf213> !mp3>timi
[01:21] <swanfl> obf213, I would prefer ogg but the file is in mps format
[01:21] <swanfl> er mp3
[01:21] <obf213> swanfl i dont know wht ur talking about
[01:22] <Alter-Ego> !build
[01:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:22] <swanfl> NM
[01:25] <drumhed> too bad I can't choose nvidia (laptop)
[01:25] <drumhed> kinda stuck ;-)
[01:29] <rexo2> got to go ... race is on ..
[01:33] <crazy_bus> Can anyone recommend a good DVD burning program for kubuntu.
[01:33] <swanfl> k3b
[01:38] <crazy_bus> but that doesn't burn video DVD's does it
[01:40] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to put this onto a DVD, I can watch; http://orange.blender.org/download
[01:41] <swanfl> you want to master a dvd?
[01:42] <Silmethule> hmm, i have a "new project DVD Video" in my K3b's menu, so it burn VDVD... ;P
[01:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> crazy_bus, i use DeVeDe
[01:43] <crazy_bus> It's just I accidently downloaded the 'AVI, MPEG4 / AC3 5.1 Surround 1920(HD)' version.  And my CPU isn't powerful enough to play it
[01:44] <swanfl> try kmediafactory, crazy_bus
[01:45] <swanfl> nm
[01:45] <will_> so has anyone got Amarok + MTP transfer working?
[01:47] <crazy_bus> I'm installing kmediafactory now.  Thanks everyone for your help
[01:54] <SperMite> anyone use ktorrent in here?
[01:55] <johnzo> I do.
[01:56] <SperMite> johnzo, can you tell me why the status keeps saying its downloading then says stalled?
[01:56] <johnzo> this is just a guess, I'm not a torrent expert by any stretch, but I'm betting it's polling your peers to see if there's anything out there to download.
[01:57] <johnzo> and it flips to "download" while it's polling and then back to "stalled" when it finds nothing.
[01:58] <Canadiansailor> Is there anyone in here that can give me some help with Samba?  I'm VERY new to linux.
[01:58] <johnzo> Canadiansailor, try me.  :)
[01:59] <Canadiansailor> How do I chat with you.  I'm also new to IRC Clients
[01:59] <bronaugh> just talk in here.
[02:00] <invisible_slack> While trying to install Kubuntu Edgy once it gets to the Blue Screen it just freezes and does nothing more, I have a Dual Core AMD with Asus Mobo 1 gig ram Nvidia 7800GT 2 SATA 74 gig raptors with USB Enabled...  Anyone care to take a shot what is the problem?
[02:00] <Canadiansailor> I can't seem to find my home network with Samba.  My gui is smb4k.
[02:02] <johnzo> so you're trying to browse an existing windows network with Linux?
[02:10] <obf213> when is firefox 2 available in repositories
[02:11] <seanieb64> Hi.
[02:11] <Alter-Ego> now
[02:11] <Alter-Ego> obf213: now
[02:11] <Alter-Ego> i am using it
[02:11] <LjL> obf213: if you're using dapper, probably never
[02:11] <obf213> ooo yeah im on dapper
[02:11] <obf213> how do i upgrade to edgy or w/e
[02:11] <Alter-Ego> invisible_slack: do you have sata enabled in the bios
[02:12] <obf213> do i just go in repositories and change all instances fo dapper to edgy?
[02:12] <seanieb64> #Ubuntu is full, #perl is being a jerk, and I was wondering, how to upgrade perl manually without delteing kubuntu-desktop.
[02:12] <intelikey> !upgrade | obf213
[02:12] <ubotu> obf213: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:12] <johnzo> does anyone else have an issue where firefox freezes when the KDE wallpaper changes?
[02:12] <Alter-Ego> if your going to edgy, do a new install imho
[02:12] <invisible_slack> Alter-Ego, yes I do have sata enabled in the Bios
[02:12] <seanieb64> the deb conflicts with the version installed
[02:13] <invisible_slack> Alter-Ego, this is a fresh install, I get to boot up, select install it does a splash screen tries going ot the Blue desktop screen and poof freezes
[02:13] <intelikey> obf213 basicly, yes.
[02:13] <invisible_slack> I've unplugged all my USB Hardware thinking that might cause a problem but no fix with that
[02:13] <Alter-Ego> do you have raid ?
[02:13] <invisible_slack> No just single SATA
[02:13] <invisible_slack> 2x Raptor 74 gigs one for Windows 1 for Linux
[02:14] <Canadiansailor> Yes Jonzo
[02:15] <intelikey> invisible_slack see if you can switch to a console, it might be hung or x might have just stopped writing to the screen.
[02:15] <invisible_slack> intelikey, I've tried switching to console no go
[02:16] <Alter-Ego> invisible_slack: do you have raid in the bios?
[02:16] <intelikey> k just a thought.  i just got here. so if that is a repete, sorry.
[02:16] <Alter-Ego> under your sata ?
[02:16] <invisible_slack> No Raid options enabled in Bios
[02:17] <Alter-Ego> i had to enable raid options in my bios to get it to work
[02:17] <Alter-Ego> for my sata drive
[02:17] <johnzo> Canadiansailor: not sure what's up.  I usually go the other way and browse my samba shares with windows.  :)
[02:17] <invisible_slack> Really? that seems a bit weird what chipset you got?
[02:17] <intelikey> i find it hard to imagine it having anything to do with the disk  if it's getting to the X portion of the boot.
[02:18] <bronaugh> invisible_slack: try the safe video thing.
[02:18] <Canadiansailor> Even trying that route It's not working
[02:18] <invisible_slack> bronaugh, tried that to same problem freezes at blue screen
[02:19] <invisible_slack> hmm let me give it a try well see with me enabling raid
[02:19] <bronaugh> invisible_slack: use the alternate CD.
[02:19] <bronaugh> and use the text installer
[02:19] <invisible_slack> brb guys thnx for help lets see what happens
[02:19] <bronaugh> IMO unless you want to use the desktop CD as a livecd, it's useless.
[02:19] <intelikey> invisible_slack may i sujest you boot to single user mode and then one by one start the runlevel two tasks until you find what is actually hanging it
[02:20] <invisible_slack> intelikey, I'll try that in a sec let me try something 1st
[02:23] <intelikey> that was liveCD issue ?  i thought i read him as "this is a fresh install"  ???
[02:27] <intelikey> bronaugh the liveCD can be used to install if you have never seen linux before....   it's only the old linux hands that can't use it.....
[02:27] <bronaugh> intelikey: the thing sucks.
[02:27] <intelikey> yep.
[02:29] <cam> Can anyone tell me why I'm getting a wmvdmod.dll error? I was able to see the videos fine before but now it seems I'm having a codec issue.
[02:30] <intelikey> cam mind clueing us in on what took place between "before" and "after" ?
[02:32] <cam> Well I have some videos they're avi. wmv...either way I was able to play them fine, now I only get sound.
[02:32] <dragonfly7> Hello everyone.
[02:32] <cam> I got an wmvdmod.dll error...I assume it's a codec issue of some sort
[02:35] <cam> I haven't used this machine in a few weeks.
[02:35] <intelikey> ah ok.  machine sat idle    is that all ?
[02:35] <cam> hen I was able to play wmv with now problems, now I just get sound, VLC sin't playing them either...
[02:35] <Omnifrog> yippy!
[02:35] <Omnifrog> tux racer works
[02:36] <cam> It's actually Kubuntu on a seperate HD, the other has XP
[02:36] <cam> any ideas?
[02:36] <intelikey> ok machine wasn't idle it was M$'ing around,  is that all ?
[02:37] <intelikey> you didn't install or remove anything ?
[02:37] <cam> no
[02:37] <intelikey> didn't configure anything ?
[02:37] <cam> how can check to see that all is in order?
[02:37] <cam> with my codecs that is?
[02:38] <dennister> g' evening folks
[02:38] <dennister> Q: how do you convert/change a pl script into a daemon?
[02:39] <intelikey> cam sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     <-- see if a patch has been released that might fix it.
[02:39] <cam> I'll see if this makes a difference...
[02:41] <intelikey> pl  that's perl ?    i don't know. i don't speak perlish ;/
[02:42] <intelikey> started to try to learn it once,  didn't get far....
[02:42] <Omnifrog> pl is perl, yes
[02:43] <Omnifrog> i got one suse box left in the house and it's going byebye on monday
[02:43] <cam> ok I'm updating stuff now...he shall see if thei works...
[02:43] <intelikey> i made the mistake of going to #perl and asking a question....  that broke me from trying to learn perl, or even using it.
[02:43] <dennister> test
[02:44] <intelikey> cam it may not help a thing.  but if your lucky it wont hurt anything.
[02:44] <cam> yeah, it's been some time since I used kubuntu...plus my XP HD was gettig full...
[02:44] <Omnifrog> deimon, you mean have it keep running in the background?
[02:45] <cam> though if this doesn't help i guess I can narrow it down to being a codec issue namely the wmv one...
[02:45] <dennister> blasted net-splitting
[02:45] <dennister> did anyone answer my question while i was away? lol
[02:45] <intelikey> cam ah wmv  yeah that may be it even if it does work.
[02:45] <intelikey> !wmv
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:46] <Omnifrog> dennister, you mean have it keep running in the background?
[02:46] <intelikey> nope not there.   thought there was an infonode on wmv
[02:46] <dennister> Q: how do you convert/change a pl script into a daemon?
[02:46] <intelikey> about the latest not being supported in linux yet....
[02:47] <cam> I just want to use this thing w/o having to trouble shoot it every other day :(
[02:47] <ironfroggy> i burnt the desktop CD and checked my boot priorities, but im not getting into the CD. what might be wrong?
[02:47] <intelikey> cam you can.  just leave the propritary junk alone.
[02:47] <dennister> test
[02:47] <intelikey> it's not linux's fault that people wont release the code
[02:48] <Omnifrog> dennister?
[02:48] <cam> yeah it's sad...
[02:48] <intelikey> dennister so is test supposed to be the answer ?
[02:48] <cam> soometimes it should just "work" no muss no fuss...
[02:48] <intelikey> dennister i don't think test can do that.
[02:48] <Omnifrog> is this a pop quiz? lol
[02:48] <ironfroggy> i checked and the CD seems to have written OK. any thoughts?
[02:48] <dennister> cam: convert the formats if you can, to something supported
[02:49] <dennister> lol...test was just to see if i was being net-splitted again
[02:49] <cam> question is this an issue?
[02:49] <intelikey> ironfroggy about ?
[02:49] <ironfroggy> intelikey: burnt a new desktop CD (cant find my other) but it wont boot, although it seems to have burnt just fine.
[02:50] <cam> SUSE was able to play wmv after some tinkering...why noy Kubuntu? which I love :/
[02:50] <dennister> cam: is what an issue? one particular codec/format being supported in linux?
[02:50] <intelikey> cam unless i'm mistaken latest wmv is not yet supported in linux.  hope i'm wrong.  someone feel free to correct me.
[02:51] <cam> No, is their an issue with Kubuntu and wmv? I assume it works, just not all the time...
[02:51] <intelikey> it work.
[02:51] <intelikey> it works.
[02:51] <cam> it worked before...
[02:51] <intelikey> same file ?
[02:51] <dennister> "after some tinkering" says it all...not easy in suse either, from what u say...do you have a lot of wmv files?
[02:52] <cam> now it doesn't...pretty much yes.
[02:52] <intelikey> same file ?
[02:52] <cam> most of the files I download seem to be either WMV or XVID, yes and the same files that played before, now decided that they don't want too
[02:52] <intelikey> see it's not even relevent if "a" wmv file worked before but "this" wmv file doesn't now.    version is relevent.
[02:52] <ironfroggy> is there some way to verify that a disc is bootable?
[02:53] <intelikey> ironfroggy boot it  lol
[02:53] <cam> hmmmmm
[02:53] <intelikey> ironfroggy sorry for the humour at your expense.
[02:53] <ironfroggy> intelikey: no problem. i would have made the same remark.
[02:54] <intelikey> ironfroggy i'm sure there is, i just never had the occasion to look for it.
[02:54] <ironfroggy> intelikey: im getting "L 99 99 99..." etc. LILO error, yes? just trying to verfiy its actually booting my harddisk and not failing to boot at all.
[02:54] <cam> <n00b but not lazy :/
[02:54] <intelikey> boot error.  actually not loading enough lilo code for lilo to step in....
[02:55] <bronaugh> boob error, grab failed
[02:55] <ironfroggy> OK but it is at least trying to boot from the harddisk, right?
[02:55] <dennister> this net-splitting is driving me crazy
[02:55] <intelikey> bronaugh be nice.  :)
[02:55] <obf213> is flash 9 out yet
[02:55] <dennister> no one knows how to convert a pl script to a daemon?
[02:55] <bronaugh> hehe
[02:56] <bronaugh> dennister: uhh... man fork?
[02:56] <intelikey> from where ever that error is generated, ironfroggy
[02:56] <noiesmo> Hey all running Edgy Beryl Aiglx Nvidia I normally set screen to 1152x864 when I run warcraft 3 my screen reverts to 1024x764 is there a way to stop this
[02:56] <dennister> obf213: i think i just installed it
[02:56] <obf213> sweet
[02:56] <dennister> bronaugh: man fork?
[02:56] <intelikey> ironfroggy put it this way if it could boot that disk (what ever it is) it would    yes.
[02:56] <momal> Is the cpu mhz in kinfocenter>processor correct? because it says 1000.000 and i have a amd x2 4200+ so i think it should be running around 2000mhz at least. if it is correct how can i boost it up?
[02:57] <bronaugh> dennister: it's a more or less direct answer to your question.
[02:57] <bronaugh> momal: cool'n'quiet
[02:57] <bronaugh> momal: automatically downclocks the CPU.
[02:57] <ironfroggy> ok if i disconnect the harddrive, i get a standard "Operating System not found" so why isnt it even attempting the CD-ROM?
[02:57] <dennister> !fork
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <bronaugh> momal: so what you're seeing is the current CPU speed.
[02:57] <intelikey> ironfroggy that's like when you swing with all your might but just don't hit anything..... 99 99 99 99
[02:57] <momal> oh..so it auto goes up when the system uses more cpu ?
[02:58] <dennister> bronaugh: i'd really appreciate a direct answer...no man pages for fork
[02:58] <dennister> <---used to literal help, literal following of howtos
[02:58] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i think my upgrade to edgy borked up my LILO configuration
[02:58] <bronaugh> dennister: a perl script can be anything, including a daemon.
[02:59] <bronaugh> what you've asked is a non-question.
[02:59] <intelikey> ironfroggy likely.   if you can boot from a liveCD or something  chroot into the system and run lilo
[02:59] <ironfroggy> intelikey: thats what im trying to do but it wont boot the CD :-/
[02:59] <johnzo> flash
[02:59] <dennister> ok, well i've got a perl script that needs to be a daemon to be effective
[03:00] <dennister> right now it's not, it just executes and exits
[03:00] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes and now we have come full circle.     (i can't make it boot remotely or i would)
[03:00] <ironfroggy> if it exits, it wont be very effective as a daemon
[03:00] <dennister> it's not supposed to exit
[03:01] <ironfroggy> intelikey: know how i could verify that the CD i wrote was not corrupted? know how i could get an md5 sum?
[03:01] <intelikey> ironfroggy md5's are on the site you dl from
[03:01] <crazy_bus> kmediafactory won't work for me :(  The first time I tried it it froze my computer for a while then deleted the menu bar.  The second time I tried it, it came up with an error.
[03:01] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i know but i would like to find out what the md5sum of the CD is, so i can verify against that.
[03:02] <bronaugh> dennister: ok, what is it though? did you write it?
[03:02] <crazy_bus> can anyone recommend another dvd program?
[03:02] <intelikey> md5 of the cd and iso are the same are they not ?
[03:02] <intelikey> you can dd the iso to cd  right.....
[03:02] <ironfroggy> intelikey: only if the CD was written without error, which is what im trying to verify.
[03:02] <dennister> basically it's the change-channel-lirc.pl file that sends the lirc signal to the digital cable setop box...on a previous installation it was a PID, and daemon, now it's not
[03:03] <intelikey> so get the md5 from the site
[03:03] <ironfroggy> intelikey: im trying to verify that the CD was written correctly, because i dont know why else it wouldnt be booting.
[03:03] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i have the md5 from the site.
[03:03] <bronaugh> dennister: does it have any config files?
[03:03] <ironfroggy> intelikey: but the md5 is useless without something to compare it against...
[03:03] <bronaugh> if so, you might want to examine them.
[03:03] <dennister> nope
[03:03] <bronaugh> ok, does it have command line options?
[03:03] <intelikey> the cd
[03:03] <bronaugh> and does it give any output before it quits?
[03:03] <intelikey> ?
[03:04] <intelikey> what am i missing here ?
[03:04] <ironfroggy> intelikey: yes the md5sum of the CD is what i want.
[03:04] <ironfroggy> intelikey: of the actual CD i have written, what it is, not what its supposed to be.
[03:04] <ironfroggy> intelikey: so that i can verify that what it IS is what it SHOULD BE. right?
[03:04] <ironfroggy> im trying "md5sum /dev/scd0" but im not sure its doing what i want.
[03:05] <dennister> this is my third edgy installation, i followed superm1's howtos every time; the first time it generated a PID, the other two times it didn't...stayed as pl file only
[03:05] <dennister> bronaugh: no, there's no output <lag on this end>
[03:06] <bronaugh> dennister: all I can suggest is either read the code or find the author; either email or online.
[03:06] <bronaugh> I know nothing about the particular code.
[03:06] <bronaugh> I suspect it's failing because of some problem with your lirc setup.
[03:06] <bronaugh> but I don't know.
[03:07] <dennister> the lirc is working...in mythtv, mplayer, xine...the stb hardware is a nother step
[03:07] <dennister> the stb, when i start up mythtv, just starts and exits "without error"
[03:08] <Omnifrog> ironfroggy, the md5 is for the ISO. NOT the burnt image of the ISO
[03:08] <Omnifrog> and there is no way to compair the md5 of the ISO with the burnt cd
[03:08] <dennister> it's <almost> the last mile here, myth registers channel change, but the signal doesn't get to the stb
[03:09] <Omnifrog> boot the bootable cd and look for a varification option in the boot menu
[03:09] <intelikey> Omnifrog the iso is different from the cd ?
[03:09] <ironfroggy> Omnifrog: they should (and are, i have just verified it) be the same. the ISO is the exact image of the CD.
[03:09] <freezy> i need help to driver ati
[03:09] <bronaugh> freezy: /join #ati
[03:09] <freezy> what ?
[03:09] <Omnifrog> really intelikey ?
[03:09] <intelikey> that's what i'm saying.
[03:09] <ironfroggy> ok so the CD's actual md5sum matches the image i grabbed from kubuntu.org, so why cant i boot it?
[03:10] <Omnifrog> im not so sure about that
[03:10] <freezy> ineed 3daccelerate my radeon 9550
[03:10] <bronaugh> freezy: #ati is probably a good place to start
[03:10] <freezy> .. ?
[03:10] <bronaugh> the IRC channel.
[03:10] <intelikey> Omnifrog have you never done   dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso ?
[03:10] <dennister> i guess i'll have to do make the script again...get no results in my google searches either...maybe 1st and 4th time lucky :)
[03:10] <ironfroggy> Omnifrog: well i have just verified it. be sure.
[03:11] <bronaugh> ok, I'd better quit here before I start being abusive just because.
[03:11] <dennister> !ati
[03:11] <freezy> a ok
[03:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <Omnifrog> ah, well...ok.
[03:11] <dennister> poor bronaugh...in a testy mood it seems :)
[03:11] <Omnifrog> im familliar with dd, but i didnt think md5 could make it past the file system in tact
[03:12] <cam> ...still updating :/
[03:12] <ironfroggy> Omnifrog: well the ISO is a byte-by-byte duplicate of the CD to be written.
[03:12] <Omnifrog> ya
[03:12] <ironfroggy> yay i made it worse! now i get  some 07's and some beeping tossed into the LILO boot errors.
[03:13] <Omnifrog> but dd'ing a device file through the file system layer is different, i thought
[03:13] <thomas> yoyo
[03:14] <intelikey> hey don't ask me.  i have no clue.     i'm the clueless guy with the bad attitude.
[03:14] <thomas> what ya all doing here?+
[03:14] <Omnifrog> i have a bad altitude
[03:15] <intelikey> i'm so ignorant, i don't even know what that is.
[03:15] <intelikey> some one help me.  i forgot how to breath....
[03:15] <intelikey> :)
[03:16] <dennister> u guys r cracking me up
[03:16] <dennister> intelikey: ur not a jerk
[03:16] <dennister> hands intelikey a flower
[03:16] <intelikey> oh yes i am   dont argue with me.
[03:16] <dennister> roflmho
[03:17] <dennister> ok...wouldn't want u to catch bronaugh's mood disease :)
[03:17] <intelikey> :)
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> use dd for everything if possible
[03:18] <dennister> well i've been cleaning up partitions, backing up, making image files...
[03:18] <dennister> hi h3sp4wn :)
[03:18] <intelikey> dd of=filename if=/dev/stdin
[03:19] <dennister> h3sp4wn: would u know how to change/convert a good pl script into a daemon?
[03:20] <dennister> intelikey: the other way around: if statement first, of second
[03:20] <intelikey> dennister order is not important.
[03:20] <intelikey> try it....
[03:21] <dragonfly7> Ok, I need help again. (hi everyone I know)
[03:21] <dennister> dd if=/dev/hdx of=/mnt/xxx/filename
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> dennister: what do you mean ? how do you know whether its good ?
[03:21] <intelikey> dd of=/mnt/xxx/filename if=/dev/hdx <--- does exactly the same thing.
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> dennister: hi
[03:22] <dragonfly7> I Appearence in system settings, I changed the GTK font styles to use the KDE font, and now it won't change back. I say "Use another style: QT" and hit apply, but when I restart the system settings app, it is switched back. I need to fix this, since fonts in gaim and firefox look horrible.
[03:23] <dennister> i just backed up my mbr by : dd if=/dev/hda of=/mnt/backup/hda-backup.mbr count=1 bs=512
[03:23] <dennister> i did it while i was in systemrescuecd, with the documentation right in front of me; it's still in front of me
[03:23] <dennister> hi dragonfly7
[03:23] <intelikey> dennister ok now do  dd  bs=512 count=1 of=/mnt/backup/hda-backup.mbr2 if=/dev/hda
[03:24] <dennister> the bs and count items come after the if and of statements
[03:24] <intelikey> then if you want you can diff hda-backup.mbr2 hda-backup.mbr
[03:25] <dragonfly7> dennister: Hello. Do you have any idea about my font problem? Is there a place I can manually edit the system font preferences?
[03:25] <Omnifrog> hahaha, "Suse users do it with protection"
[03:25] <Omnifrog> http://geekjr.com/images/suse-ballmer2.jpg
[03:25] <dennister> the only thing i didn't do is the diff..it worked though...i don't need the help actia;;u
[03:26] <dennister> dragonfly7: hold on a sec
[03:26] <stodge> When I view videos on youtube I don't get any sound when played in Firefox, and in Konq the sound isn't in synch with the video... Any ideas?
[03:26] <intelikey> i was only pointing out that your correction to my post was in vain.
[03:28] <dennister> taken right from hyam's how to (3 lines of code separated by ;): apt-get install gsfonts-x11 msttcorefonts; apt-get install tcsh;fc-cache -f -v
[03:28] <dennister> intelikey: k...i stand corrected...i should have posted the whole thing...and maybe i didn't read urs correctly
[03:29] <dragonfly7> dennister: OK, holding.
[03:30] <dennister> dragonfly7: ^^scroll up...i found the section and posted it already...u will, of course, substitute the fonts u want from hyams'
[03:31] <dennister> it might work, u might not even have to do the second line, as hyams works with ubuntu, and it has different shells than kubuntu, but i'd do the middle line anyway
[03:32] <dragonfly7> dennister: It seems to be working. This will make the system settings work?
[03:32] <oem> test
[03:33] <dennister> dragonfly7: at least the fonts will be installed properly into your system...then you should be able to change the fonts used in system settings
[03:33] <oem> Hi total noob here...sorry...I need to post to the forums...or maybe I can ask my question here about dual head ati....but I am having a hard time finding how to post to the web forum....does anyone have any suggestions?
[03:33] <dennister> oem; do u have an account with the forums?
[03:34] <oem> no I was trying to find out where to create an account but I couldnt find it
[03:34] <dennister> i've never heard of a dual head ati, but then again, i'm an nvidia person...try 'register' on the forums site
[03:35] <dennister> !ati
[03:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:35] <oem> I searched for register here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums but no luck
[03:36] <intelikey> pm
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> oem: kde display settings should be able to setup the dual head ATI stuff for you.
[03:36] <dennister> oem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ you'll see the register tab
[03:37] <dennister> ahhh LeeJunFan :) nice to see a knowledgeable person
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> oem: the way X works though you'll have to have your second monitor plugged in when you start X - or when you boot.
[03:38] <digivore> how do i export my bookmarks in konqueror?   or where are they stored?
[03:38] <dennister> LeeJunFan: I'm asking almost everyone, lol: do you know how to convert a good pl script into a daemon?
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> digivore: just open konqueror, go to bookmarks, edit bookmarks, then the file menu.
[03:39] <oem> hmmm no register tab just: ubuntu, community, support, partners, and wiki
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> dennister: sry, perl is one of the languages I've never gotten into.
[03:40] <intelikey> heh same thing i said.... LeeJunFan
[03:40] <dennister> ok...the change-channel-lirc.pl did become a demon with my first edgy install, but not for 2nd and this, the third...am trying to avoid a possibly same-bad-result the fourth time i try this
[03:42] <LeeJunFan> yeah, I do PHP, Bash, TCL, some C/C++, and a little Python, but every time I tried to force myself to learn perl I felt like rubbing my face with honey and headbunting a fire ant hill.
[03:42] <tamacracker> Does anyone know what's the latest Flash version?
[03:42] <Hawkwind> tamacracker: flash 9 beta
[03:42] <Hawkwind> !flash9 | tamacracker
[03:42] <ubotu> tamacracker: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[03:43] <tamacracker> thank you Hawkwin :D
[03:43] <intelikey> LeeJunFan lol
[03:43] <dennister> well i'm not a programmer at all, just followed a howto each time...to different results
[03:43] <tamacracker> I have this game called dofus, and it uses flash, for some reason it's not loading the game
[03:44] <Hawkwind> tamacracker: If you're using flash 9 it's possible the game isn't compatible with flash 9
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> dennister: So it has been run as a daemon before ?
[03:45] <intelikey> how many flasher can one pinguin take ?
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> dennister: So you don't actually need to modify a script you have written ?
[03:45] <tamacracker> naw i dont even have 9
[03:45] <tamacracker> but just in case, what's the command in order to see the version of the flash?
[03:46] <dragonfly7> OK, it is still not working. Does anyone know how to manually force to GTK applications to use GTK font settings instead of KDE settings. I can't fix it in the system settings for some reason, and as a result all fonts look horrible right now. My eyes are starting to hurt from reading them.
[03:47] <dennister> h3sp4wn: i don't need to modify it, i don't think...it became a daemon without anything from me in the first edgy installation, but not 2nd or 3rd installations
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> dennister: What package is it part of ?
[03:48] <dennister> i got it from a wget download: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_External_Channel_Changer
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> and you made it executable ?
[03:49] <intelikey> hmmm i should prolly reload my system.... /usr dates back to  Oct  3   that's ancient...
[03:49] <dennister> no i didn't
[03:49] <ironfroggy> ok im at a loss. i cant get my box to boot from the CD-ROM. whats my checklist of faultpoints? ive checked the bios, the cables, the disc, the ISO, so what else is there?
[03:49] <dennister> the howto didn't say anything about that
[03:49] <intelikey> chmod that puppy
[03:50] <intelikey> ironfroggy drop another bootable disk in...
[03:50] <intelikey> if you have one.
[03:50] <ironfroggy> i dont
[03:51] <intelikey> knoppix windows nothing ?
[03:51] <ironfroggy> but i can verift the disc is bootable. it works in any other box.
[03:51] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: try netbooting
[03:51] <Omnifrog> anyone in here a proponent of fair use rights
[03:51] <ironfroggy> holy crap
[03:51] <ironfroggy> i hate BIOS
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: how old is the CD-ROM drive?
[03:51] <intelikey> Omnifrog i'm an open sourcer
[03:51] <ironfroggy> it had a feature to disable or enable each device for booting, but absolutely no indication of its current state!
[03:52] <ironfroggy> so i had to go in and just flip things once, reboot, test, and try again until it was configured right.
[03:52] <intelikey> ironfroggy and they called that a bios.....
[03:52] <Omnifrog> i too am an advocate of OSS, but i was asking about faair use rights
[03:52] <dennister> h3sp4wn: do i need to make it into an executable? if so, how? and does that make it a daemon?
[03:52] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i thought my hardware was dying or something!
[03:53] <dennister> with a PID and all that...
[03:53] <dragonfly8> Well, whatever was broken was fixed by enabling anti-aliasing.
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> dennister: According to that howto it doesn't need to be a daemon (in a traditional sense anyway)
[03:53] <intelikey> ironfroggy hmmmm.  what bios is that ?
[03:54] <ironfroggy> intelikey: not sure. whatever is common on few-year-old HP Pavilions
[03:54] <dennister> well, in the mythbackend it just starts and exits "without errors"...i need it to stay up, just like the lirc's irblaster, and the blaster sends the signal to the STB
[03:54] <intelikey> mostly pheonix here and i've never seen anything that made you set blindly...
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> dennister: That should be setup as the change channel script
[03:55] <intelikey> hp  hmmm  ami bios ?
[03:56] <ironfroggy> dunno
[03:56] <dennister> i have the correct file listed in the right place in mythtv-setup...it's called change-channel-lirc.pl
[03:56] <dennister> lol...i know it off by heart
[03:56] <ironfroggy> but now i cant seem to actuall boot the live CD. i get to the first menu, and it loads the kernel but never gets passed a blinking cursor.
[03:56] <ironfroggy> im doomed
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> dennister: sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/change-channel-lirc.pl
[03:58] <dennister> it should be/spawn a change-channel-lirc.pid, but it doesn't ...ok
[03:59] <ironfroggy> someone save me before i just throw my box down the staircase.
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> and you edited /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[03:59] <ironfroggy> how do i diagnose a blinking cursor?
[04:00] <dennister> h3sp4wn: i got three resolving chmod...failed: name or service not known
[04:00] <intelikey> i wonder why i don't have an nvram device node....   anyone  ls -l /dev/nvram and tell me the major and minor numbers for it. i'll just make one...   ?
[04:00] <dennister> h3sp4wn: yes, i edited the lircd.conf file
[04:00] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: you said it loads the kernel? how far into that does it get? can you hit ctrl-alt-Fn keys to change consoles or did it not get to init yet?
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: what are you using nvram for ?
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: 10 144
[04:01] <intelikey> ty LeeJunFan
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: and it's a c :)
[04:01] <intelikey> yeah i knew that.
[04:01] <ironfroggy> LeeJunFan: no it doesnt seem to get to init
[04:02] <dennister> !pastebin
[04:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: you said that disc boots on other machines? did it boot all the way or didn't you let it get that far?
[04:02] <ironfroggy> LeeJunFan: yes it was fine on any other box
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: when it boots try extra options and try adding the option noapic to the kernel params line.
[04:03] <dennister> h3sp4wn: hold on, i see an error i made with ur chmod command, did it again with no errors this time
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: maye remove quiet and splash too so you can actually see what it's doing.
[04:03] <ironfroggy> i dunno if it helps, but i cant even do the CD check. it wont even boot that.
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Have you tried just using the real myth tv documentation (that documentation doesn't explain anything and to me looks useless) try a debian or even gentoo howto and you may get some more detail
[04:05] <ironfroggy> hmmm i think i accidentally switched the cables when i was troubleshooting this and its trying to mount a broken IDE i have in the box.
[04:05] <ironfroggy> the broken hdd is in there because these things are so difficult to get any drives in or out of i dont have the two hours it would take to disassemble the entire case to remove it.
[04:06] <dennister> k, will look at those howtos, but superm1's has gotten me 95% of the way through...am recording, watching, doing almost everything...just have to use these workarounds that I don't want to have to use anymore
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> ironfroggy: that could be it if it's probing for devices and hit's one that's damaged. Just unplug the IDE and leave it.
[04:07] <ironfroggy> LeeJunFan: will do
[04:11] <walla> does any know how to set default settings in the alsamixer?
[04:11] <ubuntu> slm
[04:11] <intelikey> there is an od hd and hexdump   i wonder why there isn't a bindump ???
[04:12] <intelikey> walla sudo alsactl store   maybe ?
[04:12] <UbuntuDestroyedM> sudo iyi mis
[04:12] <UbuntuDestroyedM> vallah sudo get amcik update
[04:13] <walla> i guess we'll find out, sometimes when i reload xine or amarok, etc. i'll have a completely different setup than the last time i ran media
[04:13] <intelikey> walla i'm not pormissing you anything there....
[04:15] <ironfroggy> OK, somehow im getting the exact same errors no matter which harddrive i disconnect. bad sectors and then a page fault.
[04:15] <intelikey> ziney  and  A-mar-o-k  i mess not with...
[04:15] <crazy_bus> I'm using Devede now.  But for some reason it's really slow.  Is there anyway to speed it up?
[04:16] <Hawkwind> crazy_bus: devede is certainly a lot faster than tovid, which is about the only other choice
[04:16] <intelikey> ironfroggy set hdd perams to auto in the bios.
[04:16] <intelikey> ?
[04:16] <ironfroggy> ok
[04:17] <ironfroggy> wait. crap.
[04:17] <ironfroggy> hdc is my cdrom.
[04:17] <ironfroggy> and thats the one getting the errors.
[04:17] <ironfroggy> hdc is the secondary master, right?
[04:17] <intelikey> set them all to auto if possable
[04:17] <intelikey> hdc is the secondary master,
[04:18] <ironfroggy> so bad sector errors off the CDROM aint good huh?
[04:19] <intelikey> still sounds like confused bios...
[04:19] <ironfroggy> why?
[04:19] <intelikey> sounds like the bios is trying to set numbers of heads and cylenders for the dvice.
[04:20] <intelikey> can't do that with a cd
[04:20] <ironfroggy> anything i can do about it
[04:20] <Cade> hey
[04:20] <Cade> I just installed flash9
[04:20] <Cade> in Firefox there was a way for me to be able to use flash videos in 16depth
[04:20] <intelikey> set to auto detect
[04:20] <Cade> is there a qay to do this in Konqueror?
[04:20] <Cade> way*
[04:20] <ironfroggy> it already is on auto
[04:21] <dragonfly8> Is there a way to force GTK apps to use GTK font styles manually? For some reason, it wont work in system settings.
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> gtk or gtk2 ?
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> include "/usr/share/themes/Xfce/gtk-2.0/gtk2rc"
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> gtk-theme-name="Xfce"
[04:22] <Cade> is there a way to watch Flash9-stuff in 16depth in Konqueror?
[04:23] <intelikey> ironfroggy also if the jumpers are not right on the device   i.e. set to slave and there is only one device... or set to master and another device set the same....   you get all these happy go lucky errors from bios ....
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> dragonfly8: (that is what I use to force my gtk apps to use that theme) .gtkrc-2.0
[04:24] <dragonfly8> h3sp4wn: I am not sure. All I know is that in system settings, I selected something in system settings that is forcing me to use anti-aliasing, which makes fonts blurry, and hurts my eyes.
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> have a look in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 that is probably what it changes
[04:25] <intelikey>  /usr/bin/kfontinst
[04:26] <intelikey>  /usr/bin/kfontview
[04:26] <intelikey>  /usr/bin/xfontsel
[04:27] <intelikey> idk i thought one of those might be a shortcut dragonfly8
[04:27] <william> HI
[04:28] <dragonfly8> All it has is style is "user font" and the theme name is Qt. I need a way to make GTK apps use that theme, instead of KDE font themes.
[04:29] <Cade> is there a way to watch Flash9-stuff in 16depth in Konqueror?
[04:32] <ironfroggy> intelikey: the jumpers must be right. ive been using this box for months with the same hardware settings.
[04:34] <intelikey> and cable pluged the same way
[04:34] <ironfroggy> yup
[04:34] <intelikey> the capital of California is C isn't it ?
[04:34] <ironfroggy> yup
[04:35] <JabberWokky> intelikey: It's Sacramento, the Native American term for "Land of the Sacred Mint".
[04:36] <ironfroggy> while im waiting for the alternative CD to burn and try that, ill ask something different for an unrelated project
[04:36] <JabberWokky> Howdy, all... is there an app that installs a working OS installation to a USB drive?  I.e., I launch it and say "Install Server Edition (or Kubuntu) on /dev/sdb2"?
[04:36] <ironfroggy> is it very difficult to configure a SATA card with two drives in a RAID? ive never done it before.
[04:36] <intelikey> tried to call 911 but couldn't find the 11 button...
[04:37] <Cade> is there a way to watch Flash9-stuff in 16depth in Konqueror?
[04:37] <bmind> .
[04:39] <JabberWokky> There's plenty about Breezy and multi-step "do this and that and alter the install init image" pages, but nothing about Edgy... is there an easier way nowadays to install to a USB drive from a working installation?
[04:40] <ironfroggy> would it be possible, or has anyone already done this: create a image that can be copied directly to a harddrive as an installation ready to boot and configure?
[04:41] <intelikey> ironfroggy you'd have an extreemly generic setup.
[04:41] <JabberWokky> ironfroggy: Yes, I just did that.
[04:41] <intelikey> almost as bad as ubuntu
[04:41] <intelikey> oh sorry.
[04:42] <JabberWokky> ironfroggy: I used dd_rescue to nab an image of a dying disc, moved it over to a fresh hard drive, and dropped it in a new system.  Worked fine.
[04:43] <ironfroggy> i dont have an extra harddrive sadly
[04:44] <JabberWokky> ironfroggy: You don't really need one *if* you have free space euqal to the drive image.
[04:44] <JabberWokky> ironfroggy: What exactly are you trying to do?
[04:45] <ironfroggy> JabberWokky: my boot records are messed up and im trying to repair them but i cant get a liveCD to actually work properly
[04:45] <keith> I installed Edgy fresh on my Desktop this morning, and I got sound out of my 5.1 card, worked great. I rebooted, now it's showing my onboard sound as primary (and it's even disabled in BIOS). How can I make my sound go back out of my Sound Blaster?
[04:45] <JabberWokky> Ah!  Wait, you're looking to copy over the install disk image and then run that?
[04:46] <ironfroggy> no that question was just hypothetical while i waited for another liveCD to burn
[04:47] <JabberWokky> Hehehe... I'm in a very similar situation.  Libretto 110CT.  The floppy is propietary, the CD-ROM has no drivers... I took out the hard drive, popped it in an enclosure and repaired it (well, did the swap I mentioned above).
[04:47] <ironfroggy> i am interested in some kind "image based install" tho
[04:47] <ironfroggy> ok i cant get the kubuntu liveCD to work on this box. im gonna see if i can use my old gentoo liveCD to chroot in and fix the lilo records.
[04:48] <JabberWokky> It works, I've done it before... with kubuntu specifically.  I just had a friend do it as well a couple months ago.
[04:49] <ironfroggy> what does the error "FATAL: kernel too old" mean when i try to chroot?
[04:51] <intelikey> i'd say a 2.0 or older kernel maybe ?    uname -r
[04:51] <ironfroggy> no its a 2.4 kernel
[04:51] <ironfroggy> the liveCD that is
[04:51] <ironfroggy> is that whats relevent?
[04:52] <intelikey> yeah but i didn't know the system calls changed from 2.4 to 2.6    in a bit when i shut down i'll boot a 2.4 and test that.
[04:57] <soulrider> hey everyone
[04:59] <soulrider> anyone here.......... ?
[04:59] <zimeng> ....
[04:59] <soulrider> hi :)
[04:59] <soulrider> maybe you can help me
[04:59] <zimeng> ?
[04:59] <soulrider> im gonna give kubuntu to ym friend, but he doesnt have net access
[04:59] <soulrider> so i wanna know if theres a way i can dl stuff from the repos and give it to me
[04:59] <zimeng> *dsl or lan
[04:59] <soulrider> but downlaod the dependencies too
[05:00] <unix_infidel> soulrider: man apt-get
[05:00] <soulrider> and make it so that he can install everything in order
[05:00] <unix_infidel> or select adept from the KMenu
[05:00] <soulrider> i know....
[05:00] <soulrider> but he doesnt ahve internet access
[05:00] <unix_infidel> soulrider: if he has enough space, he can have his own local repo on lan.
[05:00] <zimeng> adsl or lan?
[05:01] <soulrider> well, i need to give hte packages to him
[05:01] <soulrider> and he doesnt ahve too much space
[05:01] <unix_infidel> soulrider: like i said, many companies sync with their respective distro's servers so they can update locally.
[05:02] <unix_infidel> and the techs sometimes keep 3rd party repos locally on the networks.
[05:02] <unix_infidel> its not that hard.
[05:02] <soulrider> well, how can i do it ?
[05:02] <soulrider> i mean, i just need to give him java, build essential and maybe some other stuff
[05:02] <unix_infidel> soulrider: just make sure you have enough space first.
[05:02] <soulrider> thats the thing, im gonna have to give it to him with my USB drive
[05:03] <keith> How can I tell KDE what sound card to output to?
[05:03] <soulrider> so im pretty limited
[05:03] <ryanpg> hi all... I'm having a hard time finding out where to download the live cd? URL anyone?
[05:04] <soulrider> where to or where from ?
[05:04] <ryanpg> soulrider I'm in the USA but I can't find where to download it from i.e. ftp server
[05:05] <keith> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php -- Under CD, pick a mirror, you most likely want the "CD Image for desktop and laptop PCs"
[05:05] <ryanpg> keith ty, that's a bootable "live" cd?
[05:05] <zimeng> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.10
[05:05] <keith> It's both the live and the intstaller
[05:05] <DarkoBGD> can anyone help
[05:05] <DarkoBGD> ?
[05:05] <soulrider> yes
[05:05] <DarkoBGD> i have a prob
[05:05] <soulrider> you can install from live
[05:05] <DarkoBGD> when i want to log on
[05:05] <soulrider> whats the prob DarkoBGD
[05:06] <DarkoBGD> it just get me back to login meny
[05:06] <DarkoBGD> no loading interface
[05:06] <DarkoBGD> just backgrouind
[05:06] <soulrider> =/
[05:06] <DarkoBGD> so i am now in safe mode
[05:06] <keith> Try pressing Alt + F2 and running the kicker command
[05:06] <keith> If that works, run the kdesktop command as well
[05:06] <keith> It's possible your session was saved with those closed
[05:07] <ryanpg> ok... sorry to be so obsessive but http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso will contain a live file system so I don't have to install it to run it?
[05:07] <DarkoBGD> ok ill try i will let ya know
[05:07] <soulrider> ryanpg: downlaod and burn it
[05:07] <keith> ryanpg: Correct.  However, if you _do_ choose to install, there is an icon on the desktop for you to
[05:07] <soulrider> when you put it on
[05:07] <soulrider> youll be in KDE
[05:07] <soulrider> but you can install it from there
[05:08] <ryanpg> soulrider and keith ok thanks a ton :) does it install/use the restricted modules by default? I have a madwifi adapter
[05:08] <intelikey> Alt + F2 to run the kdesktop command ???  what would be reading the hotkey ?
[05:08] <ryanpg> eh... nm I'll figure it out once I run it
[05:08] <DarkoBGD> when i choose kde interface and when i enter my pass
[05:08] <ryanpg> thanks again
[05:08] <soulrider> no [rpbs
[05:08] -Mez:#kubuntu- The Class on gpg encryption is about to start in #ubuntu-classroom, please take your seats
[05:08] <soulrider> if you need more help
[05:08] <soulrider> just come
[05:08] <DarkoBGD> it just get me back to login screen
[05:09] <intelikey> i gotta see this......
[05:09] <cam> I git my issue fix...
[05:09] <cam> *got
[05:09] <unix_infidel> LOL, someone finally took my advice on a classroom type channel :P
[05:09] <unix_infidel> i cant believe it...
[05:10] <keith> How can I tell KDE what sound card to output to?  I have onboard and a SB Live, and it won't output to the SB, even though onboard is disabled in BIOS itself..
[05:11] <intelikey> !alsa
[05:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[05:11] <Dr_willis> was it disabled when you installed kubuntu?
[05:11] <ironfroggy> how can i fix "No boot signature in partition"?
[05:11] <keith> Dr_willis Yes
[05:11] <Dr_willis> keith,  thats odd. then.
[05:12] <intelikey> ironfroggy cfdisk
[05:12] <keith> It worked fine first boot, after a reboot, it found hte onboard and now outputs to it =/
[05:12] <ironfroggy> intelikey: wont that loose any partitions i have currently? i can mount the partitions just fine.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> double check - make sure its disabled in the bios.
[05:13] <keith> I quadrupal checked that
[05:13] <intelikey> no  just set the one active that needs a boot sig write and exit
[05:13] <crippledsmurf> hi
[05:13] <keith> I even reenabled, then rebooted and disabled again
[05:15] <Dr_willis> i had some odd issues ages ago with sound blaster cards. if i booted to windows, then rebooted to linux, then linux couldent set up the sound card right. If i powered up and booted straight to linux - the card would work fine.
[05:15] <ironfroggy> intelikey: there is only one partition and its marked bootable
[05:16] <intelikey> ironfroggy what gave the  "No boot signature in partition" ?
[05:16] <ironfroggy> bios when i try to boot
[05:16] <keith> I'd still expect there would be a way to send audio to the SB.. as KMixer can change volumes and such of both
[05:16] <ironfroggy> i get that and then a standard No OS error
[05:17] -Mez:#kubuntu- Class is in Session. Todays Class:  GPG/PGP Encryption, signing, and usage. Join #ubuntu-classroom and start learning
[05:18] <crippledsmurf> i am kinda new to linux, i have used a few other distros  before, so i am comfortable, one thing that seams to vary from distro to distro is thhe location where u r supposed to install software to
[05:18] <Dr_willis> crippledsmurf,  huh?  i always noticed it being very similer.
[05:18] <soulrider> crippledsmurf: you can use apt-get to automatically install
[05:18] <intelikey> ironfroggy if that a linux installation  yeah i would guess so.  grub or lilo will have to be installed in the mbr there.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> the package managers install the stuff where it should go. :)
[05:19] <soulrider> or when you build form source, you can make a deb package. It will automatically install,a nd will be easy to remove too
[05:19] <Dr_willis> or as a user you can always just keep your own stuff in /home/whatever/bin
[05:19] <crippledsmurf> if ur building something from source, u have 2 decide where to puut it
[05:19] <keith> sudo aptitude install checkinstall
[05:19] <soulrider> what kubuntu needs is a cool background for grub :P
[05:19] <keith> Use checkinstall instead of make install when compiling
[05:19] <soulrider> crippledsmurf: you can make a deb
[05:19] <soulrider> and it will install automatically where it should go
[05:20] <dennister> well the dearth of info, even on debian/gentoo/mythtv howtos, on STB's is still amazing
[05:20] <archangel_> is there a way to program my keyboard with linux?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  care to clarify that.
[05:20] <ironfroggy> intelikey: how can i make sure the MBR is correct then?
[05:20] <dennister> but i did fix the cdrecord...scanbus error
[05:20] <crippledsmurf> good point, id often thaught of making a deb, il google that now
[05:20] <intelikey> ironfroggy it's not or you wouldn't get that message.
[05:21] <keith> crippledsmurf: Use checkinstall, it will make the deb and install it.  Use checkinstall instead of "make install" when compiling
[05:21] <soulrider> crippledsmurf: install the buiuld-essential package
[05:21] <soulrider> and when you compile
[05:21] <soulrider> you go
[05:21] <keith> You can install checkinstall by running: sudo aptitude install checkinstall
[05:21] <soulrider> ./configre
[05:21] <soulrider> make
[05:21] <soulrider> and then checkinstall
[05:21] <soulrider> and thats it, you got a deb ready
[05:21] <ubuntu> hey guys... how can i reinstall grub?
[05:21] <crippledsmurf> awesome
[05:21] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: Sup?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> and some times it even works! :)
[05:21] <DaSkreech> !grub
[05:21] <Dr_willis> !grub
[05:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:21] <keith> *lol*
[05:21] <archangel_> I upgraded my wireless keyboard and mouse to the new 5000 series (M$)
[05:21] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: I win
[05:22] <Dr_willis> i won.. you were slow.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:22] <archangel_> it rocks, at least the looks do
[05:22] <Dr_willis> 1..2...3.. Redlight!
[05:22] <Dr_willis> :0
[05:22] <ubuntu> grub or lilo, the most simple way
[05:22] <DaSkreech> dang on My screen I came out first
[05:22] <intelikey> Dr_willis yeah that's the luck i had with it too....
[05:22] <Dr_willis> boot live/rescue cd,, chroot to the installed system, run 'update-grub'
[05:22] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: all nice here testing kickoff on edgy :) u>
[05:22] <keith> Skreech won on my screen =P
[05:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:22] <archangel_> the mouse works better with linux than the previous version did
[05:22] <DaSkreech> lnxkde: There is a package for it?
[05:23] <soulrider> hey Dr_willis, im gonna give kubuntu to my friend, but he doesnt have net access
[05:23] <ironfroggy> intelikey: i know the MBR isnt right, but im not sure how to correct that.
[05:23] <soulrider> do you know how i can downlaod deb packages and their dependencies formt he repos
[05:23] <soulrider> and make him isntall them all
[05:23] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: yeah
[05:23] <soulrider> but with no problems
[05:23] <Dr_willis> soulrider,  theres a program/featuer of apt to do that.. ive never used it.
[05:23] <Dr_willis> apt-zip or somthing
[05:24] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-4751-1.html
[05:24] <soulrider> the thing is
[05:24] <soulrider> i want it to install the dependencies, and then the packages
[05:24] <DaSkreech> soulrider: packages.ubuntu.com is helpful
[05:24] <lnxkde> DaSkreech: http://forum.beryl-project.org/attachment.php?item=2728
[05:24] <soulrider> it wont work the other way round right ?
[05:24] <ubuntu> =(
[05:24] <archangel_> however I wold like to use the calculator butten along with the internet/ mail, calander,messenger, docs, volume favs,play, pause, the list goes on
[05:24] <Dr_willis> huh?  just install them all  at the same time. :)
[05:24] <DaSkreech> soulrider: It will as long as you hve both in the folder /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:24] <soulrider> ahh good :)
[05:25] <soulrider> ahh
[05:25] <crippledsmurf> i shud probaby learn C, i come from a windows and C# background, ive had a little plat with mono
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[05:25] <Darko> hey guys i made it
[05:25] <soulrider> so i could downlaod th epackages and the deps, give them to him and tell him to put them in that folder
[05:25] <ironfroggy> i tried 'lilo -M /dev/mybootdev' is that right?
[05:25] <Darko> i loged on
[05:25] <archangel_> can I ?
[05:25] <ironfroggy> but it says its skipping boot and map sections.
[05:25] <Darko> some how i changed display adapter
[05:25] <Darko> it's ati
[05:26] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  thers serveral tools out to use the various extra buttons of multimedia keyboards.. (but i dont have one so cant tell ya whats the perferd tools these days)
[05:26] <DaSkreech> soulrider: yup then he could pretend to apt-get thema and he'd be altight
[05:26] <Darko> one more q?
[05:26] <soulrider> great!
[05:26] <soulrider> i managed to convince him to use linux
[05:26] <archangel_> ahh, thank Dr_willis
[05:26] <soulrider> so i wanna make it right
[05:26] <Darko> can anyone tell good net buggy drivers for ati
[05:26] <soulrider> so he doesnt go back to redmond
[05:27] <Darko> i want beryl to run
[05:27] <Darko> with ati 9200 se
[05:27] <Darko> can it be possible ?
[05:27] <crippledsmurf> ive been in linux few days, i have been having windows cravings, i assume they will go away when i get comfortable
[05:28] <DaSkreech> soulrider: MIght want to look at Mint
[05:28] <Darko> now when i start it my screen freezes
[05:28] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: I don't remember you in the series
[05:28] <Dr_willis> crippledsmurf,  yep. it pays to learn how things work.. befor making  decisions.. :)
[05:28] <soulrider> mint ?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> I donloaded that Linux Mint the toehr day.
[05:28] <Dr_willis> Its Ubuntu + media codecs and other thangs. :)
[05:28] <dragonfly8> Is there a way to roll back system settings? Like backups of the entire setting file? I messed up my font, and want to change back to yesterday or so.
[05:28] <soulrider> ohh
[05:28] <intelikey> crippledsmurf not likely.   if you are "have been having windows  cravings"  it sign's of a much deeper problem.....
[05:29] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: What kind of cravings?
[05:29] <crippledsmurf> thats true, unfortunatly i cant ever go back to windows
[05:29] <archangel_> by the way, I never in a million years thought I would say that Samsung by-passed Viewsonic in visual excellence
[05:29] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: What are you craving for?
[05:29] <crippledsmurf> i just miss my IDE
[05:29] <soulrider> crippledsmurf: i know what you mean
[05:29] <soulrider> you feel slow and clumsy in linux
[05:30] <soulrider> i used to feel like that
[05:30] <crippledsmurf> amd the official msn client
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[05:30] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: Which IDE?
[05:30] <archangel_> 19" WS is a great thing
[05:30] <archangel_> Samsung
[05:30] <archangel_> of all brands
[05:30] <crippledsmurf> Visual Studio 2005
[05:31] <soulrider> crippledsmurf: ina  couple of days youll satrt to feel more comfortable with linux
[05:31] <soulrider> i know at first it feels weird
[05:31] <soulrider> but believe me, youll get used to it
[05:31] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: tried KDevelop?
[05:31] <soulrider> and then see how crappy windows is
[05:31] <crippledsmurf> yeah
[05:32] <crippledsmurf> that will be cool once i learn C
[05:32] <soulrider> i wish linux mint came with KDE
[05:32] <DaSkreech> !ops
[05:32] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist
[05:32] <ironfroggy> ok i want to try and switch to grub
[05:32] <ironfroggy> but im not sure how to make it work properly
[05:32] <ironfroggy> its telling me my device has no corresponding bios drive
[05:33] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ?
[05:33] <crippledsmurf> ive decided to ditch C# for a while, i have this feeliing that C or C++ will server me better where linux is concerned
[05:33] <nalioth> DaSkreech: what's up?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> It's ok I think it's been handled
[05:33] <DaSkreech> someone in #ubuntu-classroom was being an ass
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Gave himself an offensive name and then joined and parted to flood the room
[05:34] <intelikey> one thing i reenterate from time to time is, that new linux users spend 10 or more years in windows learning it inside out (and actually know very little about it)  then come to linux and expect to be linux experts     truth is, they have to "unlearn" all they think they know before they can start learning     that is to say   THIS IS NOT WINDOWS !   don't expect it to be.   you have never seen it before don't expect to und
[05:34] <nalioth> DaSkreech: doing the !ops thing in -classroom would be the proper thing
[05:34] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee, nalioth: Thanks for the quick response
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nalioth: can't there is no voice in that room which is why he was using quit/enter messags to spam
[05:35] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i suspect you might want to ban that tor user...
[05:35] -Mez:#kubuntu- Class is in Session. Todays Class:  GPG/PGP Encryption, signing, and usage. Join #ubuntu-classroom and start learning
[05:35] <intelikey> it's easier on someone that's never seen a computer, to learn linux than it is for a MSCE
[05:35] <DaSkreech> I think that Mez is on it
[05:36] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Well duh :)
[05:36] <Mez> Darko, i believe its sorted
[05:36] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: yes, but nalioth can kline
[05:36] <ironfroggy> why would grub say none of my disks have corresponding bios drives?
[05:36] <crippledsmurf> my first ever experience with linux was very scary
[05:36] <ubuntu> pleasee
[05:36] <crippledsmurf> mandrate 7
[05:36] <unix_infidel> Mez: users have voice after session has ended?
[05:36] <soulrider> crippledsmurf: ubuntu isnt hard to learn
[05:36] <crippledsmurf> mandrake*
[05:36] <soulrider> youll lov eit
[05:36] <soulrider> thats comming form someone whos kinda lazy, and mentally slow :P
[05:37] <ubuntu> ive installed windows under another partition and lost grub. How can i get it back?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> !grub
[05:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:37] <Mez> unix_infidel, indeed, the classroom will be unmoderated
[05:37] <unix_infidel> Mez: back to the classroom
[05:37] <Mez> unix_infidel, please feel free to /msg me with any issues
[05:37] <unix_infidel> troublemakers.
[05:37] <ubuntu> ive looking under that thing, but i cant do it
[05:37] <ubuntu> im on kubuntu live cd
[05:37] <intelikey> just kline his ip
[05:37] <crippledsmurf> ubuntu is definatly my favorite distro
[05:37] <Hobbsee> Mez: block all of tor
[05:38] <unix_infidel> That's really unfortunate...I'm glad I'm at home though :)
[05:38] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: well if you need help with anything ask here
[05:38] <unix_infidel> I've been wanting something like this for a LOONG time now, been talking to quux in ##windows but never got this idea off the ground.
[05:39] <unix_infidel> Maybe we could extend it to a distro independent and even mixed platform classroom.
[05:39] <Mez> Hobbsee, have
[05:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Use the section that says booting  from a Live CD
[05:40] <Hobbsee> Mez: yes, i see you have onw
[05:40] <Hobbsee> *now
[05:42] <intelikey> would it work to make the classroom   invite only ?   keep fools from returning ?
[05:42] <Mez> intelikey, no ...
[05:42] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Not a very friendly classroom :)
[05:42] <crippledsmurf> konquerer identifis itself as a mac to gmail
[05:42] <ironfroggy> ok i went through the howto and ran grub, did the root and setup commands, and i just see "GRUB Loading stage2.." but nothing else. any clues?
[05:42] <crippledsmurf> identifies*
[05:43] <intelikey> DaSkreech could be something like open until 2 minutes after start time then   invite only.
[05:43] <ironfroggy> also i cant ctrl+alt+delete from that point. dunno if that is helpful info.
[05:44] <crippledsmurf> hi
[05:44] <DaSkreech> There seems to be a lot of Grub help needed
[05:44] <DaSkreech>  who wants Grub help?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  may be simpiler to just reinstall.. unless you got the system really tweaked.
[05:44] <ironfroggy> i do!
[05:44] <Dr_willis> theres jut a lot of fundamentals to understand befor you can easially reinstall grub. :)
[05:44] <ironfroggy> ive been crippling my system trying to force it to use LILO on a second harddrive and im tired of dealing with it. trying to finally configure grub properly.
[05:45] <ironfroggy> i get the "fundamentals" and ive used grub before.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> 'boot live cd, chroot to the existing install, run update-grub' is the core of it.
[05:46] <ironfroggy> i am unable to get into a kubuntu liveCD
[05:46] <unix_infidel> intelikey: that really doesnt make sense.
[05:46] <ironfroggy> i have to do it from a gentoo LiveCD, which has grub utilities.
[05:47] <ironfroggy> long story. but its all i have to work with.
[05:47] <intelikey> unix_infidel what did i do now ?
[05:48] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  you want to get to a shell on a live cd, and chroot to the existing ubuntu install.
[05:48] <Dr_willis> then you can use the ubntu tools
[05:49] <ironfroggy> chroot will not work
[05:49] <ironfroggy> im in bad shape
[05:49] <Dr_willis> clarify that statement ironfroggy
[05:49] <Dr_willis> what dosent work about it.
[05:49] <intelikey> chroot fails
[05:49] <ironfroggy> "FATAL: kernel too old"
[05:49] <Dr_willis> thats... different.
[05:49] <Dr_willis> that gentoo cd is real old?
[05:49] <intelikey> that's what i thought.
[05:49] <crippledsmurf> how does one go about shutting down the X server
[05:49] <ironfroggy> not real old. 2.4.21 kernel
[05:50] <Dr_willis> 2.4 is very old - compared to the 2.6 series. :)
[05:50] <intelikey> crippledsmurf sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[05:50] <Dr_willis> id have to say track down a newer live cd.. thers some 50mb live cd;s out
[05:50] <intelikey> meh 3 years
[05:50] <intelikey> maybe 4
[05:50] <crippledsmurf> thanks
[05:51] <intelikey> why not just a grub disk ?
[05:51] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: ive written two new kubuntu discs and they wont boot for some reason
[05:52] <ironfroggy> and im out of blank CDs i think
[05:52] <ironfroggy> that i can find
[05:52] <intelikey> there is an iso for a grub cd.  suposed to boot anything except my system....
[05:52] <DaSkreech> crippledsmurf: Alt+Ctrl+Bkspace is a quick way to restart it
[05:52] <ironfroggy> hmm i tried setup (hd0) and now it doesnt even get past stage 1.5
[05:52] <crippledsmurf> my wirless light is on, cool, windows never used to do that :)
[05:53] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: What do you mean the kubuntu live cd won't work
[05:53] <ironfroggy> crippledsmurf: seriously? i cant get linux to do it.
[05:53] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: it gets bad sector errors on the cd device.
[05:53] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: but only on that one box
[05:53] <ironfroggy> DaSkreech: no other boot CDs i have do that.
[05:53] <soulrider> !archive
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about archive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: Sooo the cd drive is problematic?
[05:54] <crippledsmurf> yeah, ive neveer seen any othrt distor, even other ubuntu versions do it
[05:54] <ironfroggy> never had any other problem.
[05:54] <DaSkreech> soulrider: look at apt-zip
[05:54] <soulrider> !apt-zip
[05:54] <ubotu> apt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB
[05:54] <soulrider> thanks :)
[05:54] <intelikey> ironfroggy maybe someone is trying to tell you something ?
[05:55] <smaggard> gnome stinks!
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Get a mac?
[05:55] <smaggard> lol jk.. but it does really
[05:55] <ironfroggy> well what about the problem at hand? im doing root (hd0,0) and setup (hd0,0) so shouldnt grub boot properly there?
[05:55] <intelikey> nope can't hear it....  to far away.
[05:55] <ironfroggy> intelikey: but i have been running it for months!
[05:55] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: what error does chroot fail with?
[05:56] <ironfroggy> "FATAL: kernel too old"
[05:56] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[05:56] <smaggard> edgy is ok for me on my desktop, but im waitig for the lappy :D
[05:56] <ironfroggy> i didnt know chroot even cared about kernels
[05:56] <intelikey> hey i'm joking trying to lighten the anxioty ironfroggy
[05:56] <crippledsmurf> the wierd thing tho is that its on, even when im not connected to a wlan, the only explaination i have fir that is that its a power light and not a connection ligt
[05:56] <DaSkreech> it probbaly would
[05:56] <ironfroggy> do i need to do two things with grub, to install a MBR and then the boot records on the partition itself?
[05:57] <smaggard> are you trying to dual boot?
[05:57] <ironfroggy> no
[05:57] <smaggard> hmm
[05:58] <ironfroggy> hmm.. i am seeing "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_5 (hd0,0)"... failed (this is not fatal) but is that in fact fatal possibly?
[05:58] <ironfroggy> and what would cause that? before the error, it says it has the file.
[05:59] <smaggard> bad kernel maybe?
[05:59] <intelikey> ironfroggy you can mount the partition and the fs is intact  right ?
[05:59] <smaggard> try a genkernel
[06:00] <ironfroggy> intelikey: yes
[06:00] <ironfroggy> the kernel should be fine. besides, its not even been able to get to the kernel yet.
[06:01] <ironfroggy> i am thinking the problem is that i cant do whatever it is grub-install is supposed to do. it says there is no BIOS drive for the device. whats that mean?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: I would say that since you have a very old Cd it would not be the greatest of ideas to expect wonderful results?
[06:01] <intelikey> i just thought of something.  if you can't chroot maybe you can bring the root to you...    ummm no.  libc differance will kill it.     i was thinking mount the partition on  /   over the top of the running live CD  but i don't think you want that with different libc version  specially not that different.
[06:02] <DaSkreech> he needs a newere CD is the butt of hte matter
[06:02] <DaSkreech> ironfroggy: do you have other computers?
[06:02] <ironfroggy> yeah im here on my laptop
[06:02] <ironfroggy> i cant get a new CD, im out of blanks
[06:03] <intelikey> DaSkreech or just a grub CD  anything to get that system booted.
[06:03] <ironfroggy> what does 'grub-install (hd0,0)' cause a syntax error in bash?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  because its a command for the grub shell. not bash
[06:03] <ironfroggy> but grub-install is a command in my path
[06:03] <Dr_willis> i think..
[06:03] <ironfroggy> and i can run it
[06:03] <intelikey> Dr_willis no.
[06:03] <ironfroggy> and it says i can give it a GRUB device name
[06:03] <Dr_willis> it may be wamting a differnt (hd0) then.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> quote it then?
[06:04] <ironfroggy> i can figure out how to quote it
[06:04] <Dr_willis> ' foo '
[06:04] <Dr_willis> actually would you want grub to install to hd0,0? wouldent ya just want hd0 ?
[06:04] <ironfroggy> quotes around (hd0,0) are giving me errors from sed somewhere
[06:04] <ironfroggy> well probably but neither works. bash is doing sometihng weird with the parens
[06:05] <intelikey> but if you install grub from the live with no chroot i don't think it will boot the hd without the cd in the tray to read the files from......
[06:05] <ironfroggy> its just reading them from /boot, right?
[06:05] <intelikey> grub will address /boot/grub  which is on the live atm.
[06:06] <intelikey> it can't find them when you remove the disk.
[06:06] <intelikey>  i think.
[06:06] <ironfroggy> /boot/grub is on the boot partition as well
[06:07] <intelikey> you can have it on a thousand partitions but grub will only read in the one that the system was installed from.
[06:07] <intelikey> correct me if i'm wrong.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> I belive you are correct intelikey
[06:08] <intelikey> (thousand partitions is not possable but you know that.)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> grub is the kind of thing - that it pays to buckle down and read the manual/docs/homepage. :)
[06:08] <Dr_willis> I got 7 hds in this box.. :)
[06:08] <intelikey> still way short of a thousand partitions possable
[06:09] <ironfroggy> i dont get it and ive read the docs all before
[06:09] <ironfroggy> when it boots, shouldnt it read from the partitions its told in the configs?
[06:09] <ironfroggy> from (hd0,0) in this case?
[06:09] <intelikey> what config ?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  grub starts up.. and the initial config tells it where to find the menu.lst (or whatever) files from.
[06:09] <intelikey> it will look for the config on the cd
[06:09] <intelikey> which wont be there.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> if it was looking for /boot/ on the cd.. that would NOT be the same as hd0,0
[06:11] <ironfroggy> so how do i tell it to look at hd0,0?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> we are back to the 'you cant chroot' problem aint we?
[06:12] <unix_infidel> Who cant chroot?
[06:12] <bLaZeD> !fonts
[06:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[06:12] <unix_infidel> :P
[06:12] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[06:12] <ironfroggy> am i missing something? cant i override that and just tell it "use this partition im giving you. dont guess"
[06:13] <intelikey> ok senerio 1     say i had ubuntu linux on hda1 with grub installed there   and  several gig of free space.    i install fc5 on hda2 and grub   now the menu.lst that grub reads will be the one in /dev/hda2 /boot/grub   not the one in /dev/hda1 /boot/grub  even though they both exist.  why ?   simply because the last installation of grub wrote code in the mbr telling where to find the configs so it could boot the system.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> if you can get to the grub menu, and the grub command line. you could (if you knew where stuff was at, and knew what you were doing) install grub over itself that way. :)
[06:14] <ironfroggy> intelikey: ok i get that but couldnt i tell it to use hda1 in that case?
[06:14] <joe__> anyone know how to open a port 12769 so I can use Azureus?
[06:14] <intelikey> now senerio 2 i have two installs on two dirrefent drives both install grub      where will grub look for it's configs      answer the last installs device's /boot/grub     and that is what you are up against ironfroggy
[06:14] <ironfroggy> i am at the grub command line
[06:15] <Dr_willis> grub has a find/completion feature on the tab key to let ya see/locate the correct hdX for the various boot files.
[06:15] <ironfroggy> when i do setup from the grub>, shouldnt it read the config from the root device and use that root device?
[06:15] <joe__> How do I figure out if I have a firewall installed?
[06:15] <intelikey> ironfroggy yes i think you can from the grub prompt  but i'm not a grub expert.
[06:16] <SperMite> anyone in here use any decent dvdrippers?
[06:16] <intelikey> joe__ iptables -L
[06:16] <ironfroggy> i think i need a grub expert
[06:16] <intelikey> ironfroggy might find one in #ubuntu
[06:16] <intelikey> dik
[06:16] <intelikey> idk
[06:16] <intelikey> sorry.
[06:16] <ironfroggy> thanks for all the help i think i will go there and seek new people to bug about this
[06:16] <DaSkreech> !dvdrip
[06:16] <ubotu> dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[06:17] <intelikey> joe__ prolly have to sudo that.
[06:17] <joe__> intelikey do I type  iptables -L in the terminal
[06:17] <intelikey> yes.  sudo iptables -L
[06:17] <SperMite> I can't get the deinterlacing right on Dvdrip =(
[06:17] <intelikey> if you have a firewall the rules will post if not blank rules lines.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> root (hd0,0)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> setup (hd0)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> quit
[06:17] <Dr_willis> "SHOULD" fix it :)
[06:18] <Hawkwind> SperMite: Try k9copy.  It's very simple and just works
[06:18] <intelikey> assuming hd0 is setup correctly.
[06:18] <Dr_willis> If you want to install GRUB in a certain partition instead of the MBR, you have to alter the setup command so it points to the right partition. For instance, if you want GRUB installed in /dev/hda3, then the command becomes setup (hd0,2)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> rember kids.. grub starts counting at 0 :)
[06:18] <joe__> intelikey it says
[06:18] <intelikey> don't flood.
[06:19] <SperMite> Hawkwind yeah I used it alil bit ago, but for some reason there was alot of noise in the background that sorta annoyed me
[06:19] <intelikey> joe__ don't flood.
[06:19] <joe__> sorry
[06:19] <intelikey> just saying if the output is long don't paste it in here.
[06:20] <ironfroggy> should i have a grub.conf in /boot/grub ?
[06:20] <crippledsmurf> "/proc", is totally cool
[06:20] <intelikey> joe__ is there more to it than three lines of  target     prot opt source               destination
[06:20] <Dr_willis> crippledsmurf,  yep. amusing
[06:21] <joe__> intelikey it has input forward, output what does it mean what do I do to open
[06:21] <intelikey> joe__ if that's all it has you have no firewall.
[06:21] <joe__> listen port 12769
[06:21] <DaSkreech>  crippledsmurf :)
[06:21] <crippledsmurf> i just found /proc/acpi/asus, ok, i know its totally childish to play with one's leds' but i couldnt resist
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Ha ha
[06:22] <intelikey> joe__ i've got to go.  but someone else can help you im sure.
[06:22] <intelikey> ironfroggy luck with that.     i well you wish.
[06:23] <joe__> thank intelikey
[06:23] <unix_infidel> To anyone who hasnt already figured out.  There is currently a Session on GPG / Encryption - Signing and Usage going on in #ubuntu-classroom.
[06:23] <bronaugh> uhh question.
[06:24] <bronaugh> Kubuntu 6.10 -- why is unichrome_dri.so not included?
[06:24] <joe__> Anyone, How do I open port 12769.   Azureaus says NAT error
[06:25] <ironfroggy> really does anyone know about grub.conf? why wouldnt i have one?
[06:25] <joe__> and says to check router firewall
[06:25] <unix_infidel> ironfroggy: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:26] <ironfroggy> unix_infidel: they the same thing?
[06:27] <unix_infidel> I figured so.  I've never messed with a grub.conf sorry.
[06:27] <ironfroggy> well grub.conf doesnt exist but grub tries to use it anyway
[06:27] <unix_infidel> Look at the syntax and the options in the default menu.lst if they match your needs then great.
[06:27] <ironfroggy> and giving it menu.lst doesnt seem to make any difference at all
[06:27] <unix_infidel> I have no idea what you're trying to do.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> the devil is in the details.
[06:28] <ironfroggy> install grub
[06:28] <bronaugh> !mp3
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <unix_infidel> uhh, you should have grub as per the default install.
[06:28] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: Grub has always used /boot/grub/menu.lst  There has never been a grub.conf AFAIK
[06:29] <ironfroggy> Hawkwind: so any idea what the /boot/grub/grub.conf is at the end of the install command when i do 'setup (hd0)' at the grub prompt?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> i think some disrtos it does
[06:29] <Dr_willis> I do belive Gentoo does.
[06:29] <Hawkwind> ironfroggy: No idea.  I just popped in when I saw you mention grub.conf
[06:29] <unix_infidel> As far as Ubuntu is concerned its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:29] <Dr_willis> use menu.lst instead of grub.conf
[06:29] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Not even gentoo
[06:29] <crippledsmurf> so does fedora i believe
[06:29] <Dr_willis> I rember SOME disrto using it.. and they even had a link between the 2
[06:29] <Hawkwind> crippledsmurf: FC6 uses menu.lst as well
[06:30] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: That's just a symlink is all it is.  menu.lst is still there
[06:30] <dennister> hey Hawkwind :)
[06:30] <Hawkwind> dennister: Hey
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  but i recall there being a movement to start using grub,conf.. but i forget when/where i even saw this... ages ago.
[06:30] <richtoo> hello, all
[06:31] <dennister> i was just about to give up for the night, and here u are :)
[06:31] <Dr_willis> from the gentoo docs i am looking at...------->  Code Listing 4: grub.conf for genkernel users
[06:31] <dennister> scouring the net, different irc channels...no one can help me turn a pl script into a daemon :(
[06:31] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: Maybe, but menu.lst is still there.  grub.conf is nothing more than a symlink
[06:31] <Hawkwind> dennister: I'm heading to bed, it's nearly midnight
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Hawkwind,  the docs say to make it.. so im thinking that menu.lst is a synmlink :)
[06:32] <ironfroggy> ok this is weird. when i try 'configfile /path/to/configfile' it drops into the grub boot menu and then says "File not found"
[06:32] <dennister> well goodnight then :) and have a great day tomorrow
[06:32] <crippledsmurf> whats the difference between a file with the extention .o (i belive this is a library) and a .so file which i have seen for libs in other distros
[06:32] <Dr_willis> of coruse gentoo dies lots of weird things.
[06:32] <richtoo> does anyone use xmms and know how to fix problems?
[06:32] <dennister> good night all...
[06:32] <Dr_willis> richtoo,  thats sort of vague. :) what problem.
[06:33] <Dr_willis> richtoo,  you are refering to fixing XMMS problems? :)
[06:33] <richtoo> when I try to make xmms double size, it locks up
[06:33] <bronaugh> lol
[06:33] <bronaugh> it's xmms, what do you expect?
[06:33] <bronaugh> if you want something that acts like it, beep-media-player is better.
[06:33] <Hawkwind> richtoo: What do you mean by make it double size ?
[06:33] <richtoo> has graphics of different window, keeps playing
[06:33] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: Personal opinion only
[06:34] <bronaugh> Hawkwind: I ran xmms for enough years.
[06:34] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: I've used xmms for years without a single issue.  It works perfectly
[06:34] <bronaugh> the thing crashes when you look at it the wrong way.
[06:34] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: Maybe for you
[06:34] <bronaugh> particularly when you use any plugins.
[06:34] <richtoo> xmms is usually very small, option is to make it double size
[06:34] <Hawkwind> Again, maybe for you
[06:34] <Hawkwind> richtoo: So don't make it double sized :P
[06:35] <crippledsmurf> ive had no issues with xmms specificky on any distro, but it does remind me a little too much of winamp
[06:35] <richtoo> it is very tiny otherwise
[06:35] <bronaugh> yeah. don't use XMMS is my suggestion.
[06:35] <richtoo> it seems to be the only way to use streamtuner
[06:35] <Hawkwind> richtoo: You can resize it manually
[06:35] <bronaugh> streamtuner is?
[06:35] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: Again, personal choice, let users use what they like please
[06:36] <Hawkwind> richtoo: You can use streamtuner by itself
[06:36] <ironfroggy> anyone know how to specify the config file to grub?
[06:36] <crippledsmurf> we arent stopping them, we r expressing our opinion of what they r using
[06:37] <richtoo> streamtuner needs audio app, when I try others they don't seem to work
[06:37] <Dr_willis> richtoo,  you using glx/berel or any of the otehr fancy X things?
[06:37] <Dr_willis> theres an issue with XMMS and compwiz? or XGL or somthing aint there.. that makes it crash when doublesized.
[06:38] <ironfroggy> or does anyone know why the configfile command seems to bring me to a boot menu from inside the grub prompt?
[06:38] <bronaugh> Hawkwind: it's broken enough that the developers no longer develop it. that should tell you something.
[06:38] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: Again, maybe for YOU
[06:39] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: I've used it for years, and am using it right now, it works perfectly, always has
[06:39] <Dr_willis> configfile command.. Hmm.. never used that one
[06:39] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: Besides, xmms is being developed, hence xmms2 now
[06:39] <bronaugh> Hawkwind: tried xmms2?
[06:39] <richtoo> I just won't double size it, but I thought there might be a fix
[06:39] <bronaugh> it's a backend.
[06:39] <Hawkwind> bronaugh: Yep, it's quite nice actually
[06:39] <bronaugh> it's also a totally new codebase.
[06:39] <bronaugh> and so far as I can tell, there are no frontends that don't suck.
[06:39] <Hawkwind> But I still use xmms, 24/7
[06:40] <richtoo> xmms2?  is it in repositories?
[06:40] <Hawkwind> Personal opinions
[06:40] <Hawkwind> richtoo: No
[06:40] <bronaugh> it's in Debian.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> richtoo: It's still very very beta
[06:40] <Hawkwind> richtoo: There are repos for it though on the xmms2 site
[06:40] <Hawkwind> For Ubuntu even, but they aren't official
[06:41] <DaSkreech> It's been very very beta for about as long as e
[06:41] <Dr_willis> Lifes too short to wait for Official stuff. :)
[06:41] <richtoo> I'll check it out, thanks
[06:41] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Hah, not quite that long
[06:48] <richtoo> I looked at xmms2 site, I think installation is beyond my abilities
[06:48] <Hawkwind> richtoo: They have sources for it with debs
[06:48] <Hawkwind> It's as simple as adding the sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xmms2
[06:56] <Dr_willis> deb http://exodus.xmms.se/debian dapper main
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Hmm no edgy yet. :)
[06:56] <Dr_willis> lets see if it works on edgy.
[06:57] <richtoo> when I tried to add to /etc/apt... it wouldn't let me save
[06:57] <Jucato> richtoo: you need to use sudo/kdesu
[06:58] <richtoo> in terminal?
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu 101 :)
[06:58] <Jucato> richtoo: yes. what are you using to edit /etc/apt/souces.list?
[06:58] <richtoo> opened it through konqueror
[06:58] <Hawkwind> You can't do that
[06:58] <Hawkwind> richtoo: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <Jucato> richtoo: ah. in that case, right-click on sources.list and select Actions -> Edit as Root
[06:59] <Hawkwind> richtoo: Replace kwrite with your editor of choice
[07:04] <Dr_willis> I cant get xmms2 working under edgy.
[07:04] <Dr_willis> not sure whats going on with it.
[07:05] <ironfroggy> ok i have been able to chroot and run update-grub, and i still can not get past stage1.5 so any more ideas anyone?
[07:07] <SperMite> What would be the safest route to upgrading to edgy from dapper?
[07:07] <Hawkwind> !upgrade | SperMite
[07:07] <ubotu> SperMite: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:07] <Jucato> dang
[07:07] <Jucato> beat me to it
[07:07] <Hawkwind> SperMite: Have a complete backup
[07:07] <defrysk> SperMite, safest is to backup and do a fresh install
[07:08] <Hawkwind> SperMite: *COMPLETE*
[07:08] <SperMite> =) ok
[07:08] <Hawkwind> Chances are almost guaranteed it'll break
[07:08] <ScarFreewill> how can i mount my ntfs hdd so that a normal user can access it (read only tough) this is how i mount it in fstab atm "/dev/sda1 /mnt/winc ntfs ro,user 0 0" I thought that adding user as a option would help but no...
[07:08] <Hawkwind> I'd definitely do a fresh install if you can
[07:09] <Hawkwind> !ntfs | ScarFreewill
[07:09] <ubotu> ScarFreewill: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:09] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy, in the past thats happened when the grub is set to look in the wrong place for the config files. root, may be set wrong, for example.. or the drives are off by one "number"
[07:09] <SperMite> So edgys still iffy huh.
[07:10] <Jucato> not really. the upgrade just isn't as smooth as previous upgrades/releases
[07:10] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  the root            (hd1,0), is where the location of /boot/ actually is. not the same as root= in the kernel line. (if that makes sence)  :)
[07:10] <richtoo> I got the sources.list changed, but can't update and install because of some time stamp problem
[07:10] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: i thought it was (hd0,0) ?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  thats mine from MY system.. yours may very
[07:11] <Dr_willis> vary ;)
[07:11] <richtoo> I just changed the time this session
[07:11] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: ok for hda1 root would be (hd0,0)?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> ironfroggy,  what hard drive do you have linux installed to?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> hda1 is 0,0 yes..
[07:11] <Hawkwind> richtoo: Only way I know to fix it, unfortunately is to reboot
[07:11] <ironfroggy> right thats what update-grub said its using
[07:11] <richtoo> I will try logging out and restarting
[07:12] <Dr_willis> grub has some sort of filename completion feature that can help ya find what its seeing/looking for,
[07:12] <Steven_M> does kde have a gui for cvs?
[07:12] <ironfroggy> Dr_willis: thats what i used
[07:12] <Dr_willis> i recall some cvs icons in konqueror befor...
[07:13] <Dr_willis> not that i knew how to use them. :)
[07:13] <abdulla> hello gentel men regarding for lunix track back , insttal requesting slax what i have to type in slax ?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> Ugh.. check the SLAX homepage? they mention the proper command.
[07:15] <ScarFreewill> Hawkwind, thx got it working now :)
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Is there a KDE version to write?
[07:24] <abdulla> slax command plzzz
[07:24] <DaSkreech> or talk at least?
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !ktalk
[07:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktalk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !info ktalk
[07:25] <ubotu> Package ktalk does not exist in any distro I know
[07:25] <DaSkreech> !info ktalkd
[07:25] <ubotu> ktalkd: talk daemon for KDE. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 142 kB, installed size 464 kB
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[07:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: do a /msg ubuto if you need to search for packages or info
[07:26] <Steven_M> you know how edgy has dosbox 0.65 and Dapper 0.63, would I be able to install dosbox 0.65 on Dapper if I got it from cvs?
[07:26] <Jucato> er.. ubotu I mean
[07:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: you can also try /msg ubotu find talk
[07:26] <Dr_willis> dosbox is great for those old dos games. :)
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Warlords lives again!
[07:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:27] <bronaugh> yeah, maybe dosbox'll actually run fullscreen on my new box... hmm.
[07:27] <defrysk> Steven_M, get the sources repo from edgy , sudo apt-get build-dep <package> sudo apt-source -b <package>
[07:27] <DaSkreech> I know talk is there but a) talk requires packages that don't exist in the repos anymore and b) i want to find out if there is any kind of messaging capabilty within the GUI
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Dr_willis: Man I loved Warlords
[07:28] <defrysk> Steven_M, and have your fingers crossed
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Why isnt there an open source Warlords?
[07:30] <neonempyr> wpa2 manager for kde?
[07:34] <Jasey> hi there. how can i go ahead and stop fsck from checking my filesystems at boot after theyre mounted? thankya kindly in advance :)
[07:41] <e3> How do I get Gmail Notifier in Kubuntu?
[07:42] <Jasey> theres a program called kcheckgmail you can use
[07:42] <Jucato> !kcheckgmail
[07:42] <ubotu> kcheckgmail: KDE systray application to check GMail accounts. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-1.1 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 580 kB
[07:43] <Jasey> woo hoo
[07:43] <e3> uhm.... i found something and typed it in terminal: apt-get install checkgmail
[07:44] <e3> it did a bunch of terminal-like install stuff but i dont see any new programs
[07:44] <Jasey> kcheckgmail
[07:44] <Jasey> with a k in the front
[07:47] <e3> nice, thanks! the command that worked was:          sudo apt-get install kcheckgmail
[07:47] <e3> woohoo!
[07:49] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:50] <Jasey> :D
[07:50] <e3> My next question.... is.... How... do i get a Weather aplet in the menu bar at the top of the screen?
[07:59] <honk> XOrg can't seem to find/load my fglrx_dri.so module, but I'm pretty sure i linked the directory right when I installed fglrx
[08:00] <honk> (sudo ln -s /usr/lib/dri /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri)
[08:00] <honk> ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/dri shows all of the SO's including fglrx_dri.so
[08:00] <honk> did I miss something?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> e3: Add a panel Right click and add Weather
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Add applet then weather
[08:02] <Jucato> (presuming KWeather in intalled)
[08:04] <klerfayt> what package will let me extract rpm content?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Oh.. That's not installed?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> ark?
[08:04] <Rawrness> !alien
[08:04] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:04] <DaSkreech> e3: sudo apt-get install kweather
[08:05] <Rawrness> Do i win?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Depends on what klerfayt means by extract
[08:05] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: I have ark; it doesn't support rpm
[08:05] <honk> That's right...Ice......Man.......I AM dangerous.
[08:05] <honk> You can be my wingman anytime
[08:05] <honk> *chomp*
[08:06] <Rawrness> Good point thus the insurity of victory
[08:06] <DaSkreech> ah that sucks :)
[08:07] <Rawrness> My legs are sore.....
[08:07] <klerfayt> does "alien" extract rpms?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> it converts them to .deb
[08:07] <Rawrness> I stay away from rpms....
[08:08] <klerfayt> Rawrness: I just want to peek inside rpm; it isn't that bad
[08:09] <Rawrness> I see...
[08:09] <e3> i did:   sudo apt-get install kweather         but where did it installe to????
[08:10] <Steven_M> defrysk: I don't really understand why are two commands required and what does each one do?
[08:11] <klerfayt> e3: you right-click in panel and choose "add applet"
[08:13] <DaSkreech> klerfayt: You could install rpm then extract it and --purge
[08:14] <e3> Hmm. I cant get the weather program to work. It's running now, but its not working.
[08:14] <klerfayt> e3: lol; kweather is buggy
[08:15] <klerfayt> e3: select  your location and remove it from panel
[08:15] <klerfayt> e3: then add again; repeat until it workds
[08:15] <e3> lol ok
[08:15] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: I'm sure ark could handle rpm
[08:16] <Steven_M> defrysk: are you still there?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> as was I but since you say it can't
[08:18] <klerfayt> DaSkreech: I'm sure this is someone's rage against evil rpm
[08:18] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[08:19] <e3> I get the weather error "Requested Station Does Not Exist"
[08:20] <klerfayt> e3: then remove it and add again
[08:21] <klerfayt> e3: if it doesn't help after 3 times your last hope is to log out :D
[08:21] <e3> well i tried it like 6 times so yeah i think i'll do that : p
[08:21] <klerfayt> e3: you could also try adding another location
[08:22] <ZeeO> hey guys how his is all of kubuntus package system i'm thinking of mirroring it at home seeing how i have installed 6.10 on like 10 dif systems in the last week
[08:22] <ZeeO> from the same network i can just pull from inside my lan
[08:22] <ZeeO> like 30 40 gigs?
[08:22] <ZeeO> less more?
[08:23] <Jack_Friday> Hi all
[09:03] <Jazon> hello everyone
[09:04] <Voker57> hi
[09:09] <bingnet922> I'd love to know how to start customizing my kubuntu desktop. Where do I change themes, sounds, etc...?
[09:09] <RenegadeX> hi I've got a question - I'm thinking of trying linux for the first time - I have an old  laptop that has ACPI issues with WinXP (worked fine in Win98), and it's really slow. Tthe Kubuntu  site says Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS Desktop CD can load it from the CD -- it doesn't however say that 6.10 can. Can it?
[09:09] <defrysk> bingnet922, systemsettings , continue from there
[09:10] <klerfayt> RenegadeX: 6.10 desktop cd can also run from cd
[09:10] <defrysk> bingnet922, some prefere the other frontend named kcontrol , wich can be opened in your cli
[09:10] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: yes, dapper (6.06) and edgy (6.10) both come as a livecd. But use dapper because it is more stable. Edgy is...edgy (a dev release)
[09:10] <defrysk> is it ?
[09:11] <defrysk> edgy is like a rock here
[09:11] <defrysk> time for coffee , later all
[09:11] <bingnet922> defrysk: great! But it is still not an LTS release, which is the preferred build for new users.
[09:13] <RenegadeX> Thanks - 1 more question: I know pretty much nothing about Linux but was just doing some reading and came across 'Accelerated Knoppix' - it boasts a fast bootup time. The laptop i want to install on is a PIII-600 w 256MB ram and is dead slow in XP. Anyone know how A-Knoppix compares to Kubuntu for speed on slow systems?
[09:14] <Gr1ncheux> hello there
[09:14] <Voker57> hi
[09:15] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: KDE, gnome, xfce, x would be the descending order of required system resource overhead for the most readily available desktop managers.
[09:15] <Gr1ncheux> i would like to know how to hide icons of partitions of hard drive on my desktop because i have to many of them
[09:15] <Gr1ncheux> somebody knows how to ?
[09:15] <Jazon> wow do i have two starange problems...
[09:15] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: knoppix uses KDE, I believe, but are you planning to install to HD or run from CD?
[09:15] <Jazon> Jucato: feel like a challenge?
[09:16] <Jazon> my swap won't activate for one.   the other is that one of my desktops 'thinks' that it is a gnome desktop!!
[09:17] <RenegadeX> bingnet922: want to try it out first from a CD as my free HD space is minimal - if I like Linux I'll probably repartition the drive
[09:17] <ironfroggy> i decided to do a fresh install of edgy, and it seems to sitting on 6% at "Select and Install software" saying "Please wait..." for some time now. should i worry?
[09:18] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: Knoppix is great for a lot of things, including trying out linux, but recommend Ubuntu for permanent install.
[09:18] <RenegadeX> I would prefer as close to WinXP in look/feel as possible. KDE/GNOME - or does it not make a difference?
[09:19] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: Gnome is by default a little closer to XP I think, but KDE is configurable to deliberately behave like XP.
[09:19] <RenegadeX> ah great! choices choices!
[09:19] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: you don't have to choose
[09:19] <RenegadeX> I see a lot of Firefox forum users recommending Kubuntu.
[09:20] <RenegadeX> no? Why is that?
[09:20] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: you can easily install both desktop managers and alternate every time you log in
[09:20] <RenegadeX> Ah... i didn't know that
[09:20] <ironfroggy> should i kill the install?
[09:20] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: KDE, gnome, xfce are desktop managers that allow you to interface with linux.
[09:21] <Gr1ncheux> ironfroggy, how many time does it stay and on what type of hardware ?
[09:21] <Gr1ncheux> sorry for my poor english :)
[09:22] <ironfroggy> this is my first install of edgy (replacing a previous dapper install) and its on a cheap HP pavilion
[09:22] <RenegadeX> bingnet922 - ah now what you wrote earlier makes sense. ie: Kubuntu with its default KDE is less resource intensive than Ubuntu default install with GNOME, yes?
[09:22] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: other way around...
[09:23] <Gr1ncheux> ironfroggy, keep cool and wait about half an hour after taht reboot and go on another install
[09:23] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: from most to least would be KDE, gnome, xfce, X, command line
[09:23] <ironfroggy> why should it take half an hour staying on 6% with no HDD activity at all?
[09:23] <RenegadeX> oh - most to least! oops!
[09:23] <Gr1ncheux> don't know :|
[09:24] <bingnet922> RenegadeX: kubuntu, ubuntu, xubuntu,...
[09:24] <ironfroggy> im just going to do the trick thats worked before: do a command-line only install and then install desktop afterwards.
[09:24] <Voker57> It did froze "looking through archive..." at mine
[09:25] <Voker57> but it continued after 10min
[09:26] <Voker57> the good thing about livecd is that you can run something during install
[09:27] <ironfroggy> yeah but im running the text based one
[09:27] <Voker57> oh
[09:28] <Voker57> are there some games coming with kubuntu?
[09:28] <Voker57> i haven't found any
[09:31] <Voker57> guess no
[09:32] <Rawrness> I just ran windows in vmware at 140 ram
[09:32] <Rawrness> And it was working....
[09:32] <unix_infidel> xp?
[09:33] <Rawrness> Yep
[09:33] <Rawrness> XP Pro Barebones Edition
[09:33] <Rawrness> Most of the crap got weeded out of it
[09:34] <unix_infidel> barebones?
[09:34] <ironfroggy> oh crap help me. i couldnt get grub past stage1.5 so i just did a fresh install and its doing just the same thing. it just sits there and wont progress past this.
[09:34] <unix_infidel> you mean nlit-ed to nothingness?
[09:34] <Rawrness> Prdy much
[09:35] <unix_infidel> anyone can create a non-usable vm :P
[09:35] <Rawrness> Of course
[09:35] <ironfroggy> what could cause a stock install to be unbootable past grub stage1.5 ?
[09:36] <Rawrness> I am just amazed i ran it with this pieace of shit.
[09:36] <Rawrness> did you md5 your image iron?
[09:36] <Rawrness> and check intergerity
[09:37] <ironfroggy> yes everything checked out fine
[09:38] <ironfroggy> i might have to go back to LILO
[09:38] <Rawrness> I never tryed Lilo
[09:38] <Rawrness> Another project for a rainday i guess.
[09:39] <ironfroggy> ive never gotten grub to work right
[09:39] <ironfroggy> hm.. cant i boot into a command line from the alternative install CD?
[09:40] <Rawrness> Not sure...... there is that one option of something... like recover system.
[09:41] <ironfroggy> yeah thats just an install without clearing the system. reinstalls the base system
[09:41] <ironfroggy> i need a command line tho, badly
[09:41] <Rawrness> I see
[09:42] <Rawrness> wouldn't you just need something to by past grub?
[09:42] <Rawrness> bypass*
[09:42] <ironfroggy> what do you mean? i need to install LILO, but i need to get to a prompt at least to do that.
[09:44] <ironfroggy> unless im missing something
[09:44] <james> anyone awake at this hour and has any experience with alsa and artsd?
[09:45] <Rawrness> Will reinstalling with alt disk and setting lilo as default instead of drub work?
[09:45] <ironfroggy> Rawrness: but how could i set that up? it never asks!
[09:45] <Rawrness> I know this one!!!
[09:46] <Rawrness> Tell it not to install grub
[09:46] <Rawrness> When it talks about it
[09:46] <ironfroggy> how?
[09:46] <ironfroggy> it never asks
[09:46] <Rawrness> esc to menu
[09:46] <Rawrness> right below install grub is install lilo
[09:46] <ironfroggy> ah i see it now.
[09:46] <ironfroggy> it doesnt ask anything about it in the normal install
[09:46] <Rawrness> :P
[09:46] <Rawrness> Nope
[09:47] <Rawrness> I lurv my alt install.
[09:47] <Rawrness> I gots the dvd :P
[09:48] <mimo> Hi, I installed beryl in edgy. How can I resize a window?
[09:48] <Rawrness> Go to beryl manager
[09:48] <Rawrness> check the box that says resize windows
[09:48] <defrysk> beryl-settings-manager
[09:48] <Rawrness> You should be able to after that i think.....
[09:49] <james> anyone liked to alsa?
[09:49] <Rawrness> Me and beryl have a bad histroy
[09:49] <Rawrness> history*
[09:49] <defrysk> its fine here :)
[09:50] <mimo> Rawrness: I can see options like click to focus, auto-raise, ...   but can't find an option of resize
[09:50] <james> well i tried
[09:50] <Rawrness> I recall it being there.......
[09:50] <defrysk> otherwise try #beryl , for beryl specific questions
[09:51] <Rawrness> STupid black windows.
[09:51] <defrysk> Rawrness, I use nvidia and it runs fine here
[09:51] <Rawrness> Do you card have its own memorie?
[09:51] <defrysk> 128 meg
[09:52] <Rawrness> Mine don't i don't think at leats
[09:52] <Rawrness> Geforce 6100
[09:52] <Rawrness> least*
[09:52] <mimo> Rawrness: on the general options it's not there and there are huge number of options on the other tabs but can't find it yet
[09:52] <defrysk> my beryl uses nvidia as rendering platform
[09:52] <defrysk> so no xgl or aixgl
[09:53] <Rawrness> Aka beta drivers?
[09:53] <defrysk> I use beta yes
[09:53] <defrysk> latest from amaranth
[09:53] <Rawrness> I use beta to theres some bug.
[09:53] <Rawrness> theirs*
[09:53] <defrysk> too bad Rawrness
[09:54] <Rawrness> Yep
[09:54] <Rawrness> I am thinking about buying a new card though.
[09:54] <Rawrness> And ram and sound card
[09:54] <defrysk> ram riles
[09:54] <defrysk> rules
[09:54] <defrysk> ,-- 1 gig
[09:55] <Rawrness> I got 256 ....
[09:55] <defrysk> thats pretty low.....
[09:55] <Rawrness> You get what you pay for I guess 300$ emachine
[09:55] <defrysk> yeah hehe
[09:55] <Rawrness> Thus my amazment of running windows in vmware.
[09:56] <defrysk> Kernel: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+ @ 1800 Mhz | Mem usage: 167.5/1011.4 MB (17%) | Swap usage: 0/2965.1 MB (0%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 6L300R0): 53.3/273.0 GB (20%) | Uptime: 14 mins 12 secs
[09:57] <defrysk> X.org: 7.1.1 | Monitor: LS902U | Videocard: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  | Res: 1400x1050, 24-bits | Audio: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller | X-chat: 2.6.6
[09:57] <Lynoure> defrysk: Let me guess: you do not use Firefox? (or not with many tabs, at least)
[09:58] <defrysk> I use firefox
[09:58] <defrysk> why wouldnt I ?
[09:58] <defrysk> its not open now if thats what you wonder
[09:58] <Lynoure> Well, my firefox alone uses more memory than that :)
[09:59] <Rawrness> Fun
[09:59] <Lynoure> At least after it has been on 12h with 40 tabs
[09:59] <defrysk> I have now beryl and xchat open + kde of course
[09:59] <Rawrness> xchat......
[09:59] <Rawrness> So Ugly......
[09:59] <defrysk> Rawrness, I prefer it muchly over kvirc
[10:00] <defrysk> or any other kde irc app
[10:00] <Lynoure> I should move to that too, now I just use it occasionally
[10:00] <Rawrness> Stills ugly....
[10:00] <defrysk> konq is fine for webbrowsing most of the time
[10:02] <Rawrness> I wonder how well the machine will work with 500mbs of ramm.
[10:02] <defrysk> Rawrness, much better I can assure you
[10:02] <Lynoure> Rawrness: I'd still stay away from 40 tabs on FF :) Other than that, mine is fine
[10:03] <Rawrness> I think il spend my chirstmas cash on ram this year
[10:03] <defrysk> let alone for 5 minutes
[10:03] <Lynoure> defrysk: If I close them, I forget about them
[10:04] <Rawrness> I betcah its porn!
[10:04] <Lynoure> Rawrness: half jobhunting, half geekery
[10:05] <Rawrness> So 50% jobs 20%porn 20% of whatever and a topping of 10% of caffine?
[10:10] <Lynoure> Rawrness: There are not that many hot guys in porn, unfortunately
[10:10] <Rawrness> Good point....
[10:10] <Lynoure> Rawrness: but if you are permanently curious, I can send you a screenshot of the current tabs
[10:11] <Rawrness> Not realy
[10:11] <Rawrness> I am just bored out of my mind.
[10:11] <defrysk> ubuntu is boring
[10:12] <Lynoure> Rawrness: my idea of geeky usually means computers :)
[10:12] <defrysk> once its up and running its boring to tears
[10:12] <Lynoure> unless you upgrade it :)
[10:12] <Lynoure> Rawrness: do you program?
[10:13] <defrysk> Lynoure, my highlight of the day is getting the next beryl-svn in
[10:13] <Lynoure> Rawrness: it's a good cure against boredom
[10:13] <defrysk> witch takes about 2 minutes
[10:13] <Rawrness> Nope
[10:13] <Lynoure> Rawrness: and even if you do not, I bet I have a project I could recruit you into :)
[10:13] <Rawrness> Where would you suggest starting?
[10:14] <Rawrness> Project ,eh?
[10:14] <Lynoure> Rawrness: Yes, there are usually at least 5 =)  Like making an adventure game (lacking sound and graphics people)
[10:15] <Rawrness> Aka MUD?
[10:15] <Lynoure> Rawrness: open source, of course, and a hobby project
[10:15] <Lynoure> Rawrness: no, akin to Monkey Island or Longest Journey
[10:15] <defrysk> or start playing planeshift
[10:15] <jdfellow> ok i need help anyone
[10:15] <Lynoure> MUDs do not usually have sound or graphics
[10:15] <Rawrness> Whatcha need?
[10:16] <defrysk> !ask | jdfellow
[10:16] <ubotu> jdfellow: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:16] <jdfellow> ok i have read all the post i could find on this problem and no solution
[10:16] <Rawrness> Whats the problem.....
[10:16] <jdfellow> the problem being that kaffeine and amarok keep crashing
[10:17] <jdfellow> one solution is to get rid of the asoundrc file but it has useful plugins
[10:17] <jdfellow> bear with me
[10:17] <mimo> Rawrness: thx a lot I found it now ;)
[10:17] <Rawrness> No problems
[10:18] <Rawrness> :P
[10:18] <jdfellow> i have found a solution when i load ksysguard it shows artsd running in the background when i kill it sound starts to work fine in amarok and kaffeine so how do i keep arstd from loading
[10:19] <jdfellow> ?
[10:19] <defrysk> turn it off
[10:19] <jdfellow> where?
[10:19] <defrysk> turn your soundserver of
[10:19] <jdfellow> oh thats too eazy
[10:19] <defrysk> arts sucks bigtime anyway and is to be removed in kde4
[10:20] <jdfellow> awesome
[10:20] <jdfellow> i know i am not the only one
[10:20] <defrysk> atrs has not been activly developed since kde2,2x
[10:20] <defrysk> arts*
[10:20] <defrysk> and is mainly a pita
[10:20] <Rawrness> Fun their
[10:20] <jdfellow> whats a pita?
[10:21] <Lynoure> a type of bread :)
[10:21] <defrysk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pita
[10:21] <defrysk> also a Pain in the Ass
[10:21] <jdfellow> anyway thanks that helps i think i will test it
[10:22] <Rawrness> I want to hit someone with a large loaf of french bread......
[10:22] <defrysk> frozen trouts rule
[10:22] <jdfellow> trout is funnier
[10:22] <Rawrness> For no apperent reason or motive
[10:22] <jdfellow> ok good morning or night
[10:22] <jdfellow> thanks
[10:22] <defrysk> good day
[10:22] <Rawrness> Perhaps the trout.....
[10:23] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i downloaded a theme , it's .kth file , then when i install it has no preview and error , then i want to remove this theme , but i cant . Wat prob ? and wat folder or file system to edit theme ?
[10:25] <Rawrness> Now how to get the machine to read off my fat32 partiion.................
[10:27] <Lynoure> Rawrness: is it mounted?
[10:28] <Rawrness> Vmware :P
[10:28] <Rawrness> Lots of fun things to play with their
[10:29] <Rawrness> But i hope the end result is never dual booting again.
[10:34] <ironfroggy> any idea why i would not be able to install either LILO or GRUB bootloaders to /target? i get no definitive errors from either.
[10:37] <Rawrness> Bad Karma?
[10:37] <ironfroggy> maybe
[10:37] <ironfroggy> i think i can give some boot params to the livecd to boot my kernel but i cant figure them out
[10:39] <ghostshadow189> hi all , how can i install new theme for kubuntu ?
[10:39] <Jucato> !theme
[10:39] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:39] <Jucato> er..
[10:39] <Jucato> !changethemes
[10:39] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[10:43] <ironfroggy> anyone know params i could give to the liveCD to boot into my harddrive?
[10:44] <Rawrness> !Easybutton
[10:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Easybutton - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <Rawrness> no easy button.......
[10:45] <ironfroggy> anyone know at least what i can give for the initrd param?
[10:46] <ironfroggy> anyone tell me where theirs is?
[10:46] <Ayabara> probably not the most often asked question here, but is there a way to uninstall all the packages I got by installing kubuntu-desktop if I should want to go back to a pure gnome install?
[10:46] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i installed  deKorator , but i cant find it in start menu . wat command to run it ?
[10:46] <Rawrness> apt-get auto-remove kubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <Rawrness> or something like that i forgot how auto remove went
[10:47] <buz> whenever i try to select a text passage that contains oo formulas it crashes
[10:47] <Newbeee> Hi I'm new to this and cant find were to config samba (server)
[10:47] <buz> on dapper it never did that
[10:47] <Jucato> ghostshadow189: in System Settings -> Appearance -> Window Decorations
[10:48] <Ayabara> Rawrness, I don't think that will remove much of the kde packages installed. I was just curious though :-)
[10:48] <Rawrness> well tis edgy
[10:49] <Rawrness> Wait a Min. Robert Jordan fan?
[10:49] <Jucato> Ayabara: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[10:50] <buz> Rawrness: koffice unfortunately isnt an option
[10:50] <buz> opendocument support is totally incompatible among the two
[10:51] <buz> interesting
[10:51] <Rawrness> I use abiword
[10:51] <buz> deleting .openoffice.org2 helped
[10:52] <buz> or not
[10:57] <Rawrness> I think I might get some "sleep"
[10:57] <Rawrness> Night people i managed to push further in to their problems
[11:02] <buz> mhh oo crashes must be related to java
[11:02] <buz> if java is deactivated they dont occur
[11:02] <vieira> i ppl
[11:02] <buz> what JRE is suggested to be used with oo on edgy?
[11:02] <vieira> can u tell me how can i shutdow my kubuntu with crontab?
[11:03] <Jazon> Any ideas for either of these two problems?  One: my swap won't activate for one. (problem with disk id or something)    the other is that one of my desktops 'thinks' that it is a gnome desktop!!
[11:04] <buz> vieira: add "halt" to roots crontab
[11:04] <stefania> buongiorno
[11:04] <vieira> buz: i want do shutdown the machine in certain time
[11:04] <buz> do you know how crontab works?
[11:05] <vieira> buz: i've put in the corntab but the machine doesn't turn off
[11:05] <buz> what did you put there
[11:05] <vieira> buz: i'm missing something?
[11:05] <buz> and: did you put it in YOUR crontab or root's ?
[11:05] <buz> only root can shutdown the system by default i think
[11:05] <vieira> buz: mine
[11:05] <buz> try root's
[11:05] <vieira> buz: ok
[11:06] <buz> what is it with my openoffice
[11:07] <buz> crashes allt the time
[11:09] <vieira> buz: going to check if works
[11:09] <buz> good luck
[11:09] <vieira> buz: if i'm gone it works :)
[11:09] <kelly_> hey guys, total n00b here. Tell me is this is the wrong place to ask but I am having some trouble with apt and adept
[11:09] <kelly_> i tried to run apt-get update from konsole but it cannot connect to any servers
[11:10] <kelly_> but i can ping google.com from the konsole
[11:10] <defrysk> kelly_, remove the landcode from the sources.lis lines
[11:10] <defrysk> sources.list
[11:11] <kelly_> ok ill try it
[11:11] <defrysk> then apt-get update
[11:12] <kelly_> ok sorry to ask but what is landcode?
[11:12] <kelly_> and is the in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:13] <defrysk> kelly_, example :
[11:13] <buz> something like http://US.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <defrysk> deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[11:13] <buz> remove the US, DE or whatever
[11:13] <defrysk> nl. is here the landcode
[11:13] <defrysk> exactly
[11:14] <kelly_> ok makes sense
[11:14] <buz> if you're in europe, ch. is very fast from most places
[11:14] <buz> then again, archive itself is in the uk
[11:14] <defrysk> yes
[11:15] <buz> (i dont want to see THEIR bandwidth bill ;)
[11:15] <buz> i actually wonder that they dont serve dns records close to you
[11:15] <buz> i know i would do that
[11:17] <kelly_> ok, im in au and all the landcodes are allready au.
[11:18] <kelly_> should i still get rid of it?
[11:19] <kelly_> eg
[11:19] <kelly_> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[11:19] <kelly_> deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted
[11:21] <defrysk> kelly_, I would yes
[11:22] <buz> mhh
[11:22] <buz> from au, archive is gonna be reaaaly slow
[11:22] <defrysk> buz, if its dns related I would switch to ftp iso http
[11:23] <buz> if it's infact dns related, i would switch to ftp with ip
[11:23] <defrysk> otherwise try nz
[11:23] <buz> or the us
[11:23] <defrysk> as in new zealand
[11:23] <buz> most asian pacific trraffic for europe goes through the us
[11:23] <defrysk> or japan even
[11:24] <defrysk> indonesia
[11:24] <buz> university of hongkong
[11:24] <ghostshadow189> hi all , why that every file .kth i downloaded , when i install it in theme manager , they not work ?
[11:24] <defrysk> something in the pacific
[11:24] <buz> generally fast in asia/pacific and dog slow elsewhere
[11:25] <defrysk> back later
[11:26] <thomas> hi@ll
[11:27] <thomas> could anybody help me with beryl?
[11:27] <Tm_T> !xgl
[11:27] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:27] <buz> thomas: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:27] <thomas> thx
[11:27] <defrysk> beryl rules
[11:28] <marcix> hi guys
[11:28] <marcix> any italian chaps in here?
[11:29] <marcix> i need some help
[11:29] <Tm_T> !it
[11:29] <marcix> about wifi config
[11:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <defrysk> !it | marcix
[11:29] <ubotu> marcix: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:29] <Tm_T> defrysk: Hrrr, you're slow.
[11:29] <defrysk> waaaaay slowww :s
[11:29] <marcix> i'm already there
[11:30] <marcix> there's anyone who can help me
[11:30] <marcix> i can speak english as well
[11:30] <luca__> hi everyone
[11:31] <marcix> hi
[11:31] <marcix> could anyone help me about wifi settings?
[11:31] <luca__> has anyone tried out gaim 2.05 ?
[11:31] <luca__> what is the problem marcix?
[11:31] <marcix> right
[11:32] <marcix> i've got
[11:32] <marcix> a wifi pci card
[11:32] <marcix> belkin
[11:32] <Tm_T> You don't
[11:32] <Tm_T> have to
[11:32] <luca__> gaim does not function, connection to msn and gmail do not connect
[11:32] <Tm_T> lean to
[11:32] <Tm_T> enter key. ;)
[11:32] <marcix> i've already installed drivers with ndiswrapper
[11:33] <marcix> and the device is on eth1
[11:33] <marcix> i cannot make it work
[11:33] <marcix> i think it's just a problem of config
[11:33] <marcix> an easy way to config it?
[11:34] <theprodukkt> hello, i need help with sun-java-plugins on my amd64 machine, already trying to setup it for about 8 hours and cant get it!
[11:34] <theprodukkt> does someone know any suggestions?
[11:35] <marcix> luca are you italian?
[11:35] <marcix> i'm
[11:35] <theprodukkt> i need the 32bit plugin for firefox, but in case ill get it, will the 64bit version of firefox work with it?
[11:35] <luca__> yeah I am
[11:35] <luca__> but I am no good at configuring sorry :)
[11:36] <marcix> all right
[11:36] <luca__> an OWoD player I see now... ;-)
[11:36] <marcix> i'll do myself or almost i'll try:)
[11:36] <Jucato>  fire
[11:36] <Jucato> er.. sorry
[11:38] <luca__> hi Jucato
[11:38] <Jucato> hi luca__
[11:38] <luca__> by the way if anyone is interested
[11:38] <luca__> and has a Thinkpad R50e
[11:38] <luca__> I have got mine finally to have a functioning sleep without any problems on resume :-)
[11:40] <luca__> does someone know how to disinstall a beta of gaim?
[11:41] <luca__> I have installed the beta 5, but it functions awfully - no connection to either msn or gmail
[11:42] <kelly_> hey guys
[11:42] <kelly_> when i run apt-get update and it clearly isnt working i just press ctrl+z  and it appears to stop
[11:43] <kelly_> but then i cannot start apt again becuase it cannot lock the list file or something? what am i doing wrong?
[11:43] <luca__> in konsole usually u use ctrl+c
[11:43] <fdoving> kelly_: ctrl-z suspends it. you can bring it back with the command 'fg'
[11:43] <luca__> try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:43] <luca__> oh ok
[11:43] <kelly_> oh ok thanks
[11:44] <luca__> I think also the dpkg could function, try it if it is somehow broken
[11:44] <fdoving> and in the future, when something hangs, use ctrl-c to exit.
[11:46] <kelly_> ok guys i removed all the au. and now its working :-D horay
[11:46] <larss0n> can enyone help me solve the problem with the connection of frostwire, it wont connect
[11:50] <larss0n> can enyone help me solve the problem with the connection of frostwire, it wont connect
[11:51] <luca__> be more precise larss0n, I probably won't be able to help you, but others could with details :)
[11:51] <mngrif> i have a really strange problem: i'm installing kubuntu now and i'm at the "Prepare mount points" stage. I have a perfectly fine and acceptable root partition selected, but it still says "No root file system"
[11:52] <mngrif> mind you, i'm not having kubuntu reformat the partition since I have data on it (/home). this is the 6.10 installer
[11:53] <mngrif> i'm actually trying to grok the source to ubiquity to see if i can just comment out the check
[11:55] <kelly_> jsut as a matter of interest, why would removing the au's from my sources list make any difference? my friend has the same ISP and his sources list has the au's and it works fine
[11:57] <defrysk> kelly_, mirror might have some dns-desturbancies
[11:57] <mngrif> ahhh... the problem seems to be with having checked "reformat"
[11:57] <macem> how do i keep kaffeine from stopping playback when i switch to another desktop?
[11:57] <BeWat3r> hi im new to kubuntu/ubuntu, can someone tell me how I can open a .jar file? if I click on it only ark opens
[11:58] <defrysk> .jar is a java-archive
[11:58] <defrysk> not sure how to open it
[11:58] <BeWat3r> it is a java application
[11:58] <defrysk> java -jar blah.jar
[11:58] <BeWat3r> ok
[11:58] <BeWat3r> thx
[11:58] <defrysk> something like that
[12:00] <BeWat3r> ok it works thank you
[12:02] <kelly_> umm, not sure if i am still having the same dns issue but now adept wont update? it says waiting for headers (0%)
[12:08] <kelly_> sorry that doesnt tell you alot. When i run apt-get upgrade which i asume is the same thing i get this
[12:08] <kelly_> Err http://security.ubuntu.com edgy-security/main screen 4.0.2-4.1ubuntu5.6.10
[12:08] <kelly_>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0). - connect (113 No route to host)
[12:08] <kelly_> but i can get to that url in konquerer
[12:08] <tsdgeos> 1.0.0.0 ????
[12:09] <kelly_> yer i dunno what thats about?
[12:09] <kelly_> i assume its a dns problem cuz that surely isnt the ip
[12:09] <kelly_> ?
[12:10] <kelly_> from konsole i can ping google but not security.ubuntu.com
[12:13] <kelly_> really quite frustrating, I am trying to move to linux from windows and not having apt working is making it hard :P
[12:13] <aualin> do you have a thought of moving back?
[12:14] <kelly_> well, amarok cant play mp3's and i cant play dvds :-( windows can right now
[12:14] <kelly_> but im being patient and trying to get it to work, grrr
[12:14] <aualin> well....................... you can add support for mp3
[12:14] <aualin> i ahev in my amarok
[12:15] <aualin> have
[12:15] <aualin> cant remember what i did.......
[12:15] <kelly_> i know, it says click to add support. but APT wont connect so it cant download the extra codecs
[12:15] <kelly_> :(
[12:15] <aualin> hm...
[12:16] <aualin> have you tried any other package manager?
[12:16] <aualin> like aptitude or adept?
[12:16] <aualin> or smart
[12:16] <kelly_> never had this weirdness with the DNS for apt before :S
[12:16] <kelly_> umm no i havnt
[12:16] <Lynoure> kelly_: maybe your dns server is having a bad day
[12:16] <kelly_> how would i update the sources and then do an upgrade with adept?
[12:17] <aualin> hm...
[12:17] <aualin> if you can browse to the server
[12:17] <aualin> you can download deb
[12:17] <kelly_> is the DNS server a isp based thing? becuase my friend is on the same isp and his is working
[12:17] <aualin> dont know........
[12:17] <aualin> can be...........
[12:19] <kelly_> but would konquere and apt use the same dns?
[12:19] <aualin> maybe not if konq wiroks
[12:19] <aualin> works
[12:19] <tsdgeos> teah
[12:20] <bubu1uk> DNS a.k.a. Domain name server. u should have ip addresses of ur DNS from ur ISP.
[12:21] <aualin> thanks for that
[12:21] <kelly_> ok, and then what do i do with that. BTW i have a router
[12:21] <bubu1uk> check ur connection settings, if ur DNS are setup properly. maybe it's not setup there properly
[12:22] <bubu1uk> if u got router, have at least DNS name same as ur routers ip
[12:22] <bubu1uk> but sometimes that doesn't work. so u can add other given from ur ISP
[12:22] <kelly_> is there any command to check the dns in konsole besides ping?
[12:23] <bubu1uk> gen u get anywhere online? i mean thru firefox, konqueror or whatever browser to any webpage?
[12:24] <nagyv> hello! I have deleted a file from the console from an ext3 filesystem. Is there a way to recover it? (I know its path and filename)
[12:24] <fdoving> nagyv: basically, no.
[12:25] <torsten-trunz> guten tag zusammen!
[12:25] <fdoving> !de | torsten-trunz
[12:25] <ubotu> torsten-trunz: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:27] <kelly_> bub1uk, I can get everywhere online, im online now :P just apt cant connect
[12:27] <bewat3r_> I would like to install firefox 2. therefor I downloaded a .tar.gz file. but I dont know how to instal that file now.
[12:28] <kelly_> and i can even browse to http://security.ubuntu.com/ with konquerer but i cant even ping it from konsole
[12:28] <kelly_> i am using IRC now on the connection :S
[12:28] <bubu1uk> kelly_: ur tryin to do apt from konsole, right? did u try also adept? if there is same effect.
[12:29] <torsten-trunz> is there anybody who can help by the installation of firefox 2.0
[12:29] <bewat3r_> or help me with it^^
[12:29] <zerak> whats the problem with firefox 2.0 for you?
[12:29] <bewat3r_> i really dont know how to install a .atr.gz file. I'm new to kubuntu, so.
[12:30] <torsten-trunz> ha, seems im not the only one who has probs with the installation of ff2.0
[12:30] <kelly_> adept just sits on "Waiting for headers 0%" when i click the update button
[12:30] <zerak> torsten-trunz whats the problem?
[12:30] <bewat3r_> could you tell me how to install ff2 with the tar.gz file?
[12:30] <zerak> use apt-get
[12:31] <torsten-trunz> i has downloaded the package and its unpacked in my homedirectory, and now it dont start when i click on the firefox-bin
[12:31] <zerak> try to avoid other sources at all cost
[12:31] <bubu1uk> kelly_: hmm, strange
[12:31] <Rythan> IOW, bewat3r_, you don't need to use the tar.gz file for ff2
[12:31] <zerak> torsten-trun use apt-get
[12:32] <torsten-trunz> yeah that i read in different forums, but there i dont find firefox
[12:32] <kelly_> very, really very frustrating, and if you guys dont know, nobody will :(
[12:32] <bewat3r_> and how would I do it with the tar.gz file/what is that file for?
[12:32] <alanblins> Anybody use kubuntu?
[12:32] <zerak> torsten-trunz got edgy?
[12:32] <zerak> torsten-trunz activated multiverse?
[12:32] <torsten-trunz> no i dont think
[12:32] <torsten-trunz> i installed kubuntu one hour ago
[12:33] <torsten-trunz> im a virgin with linux
[12:33] <kraut> moin
[12:33] <bubu1uk> kelly_: try to add to ur connection settings IPs of DNS servers provided by ur ISP, dont' think it will help, but u can give it a try
[12:33] <bewat3r_> how do I install with apt-get?
[12:33] <zerak> torsten-trunz when you installed it did you use the latest stable version ? Current version is is edgy, previous dapper
[12:33] <zerak> torsten-trunz open adept manager -> reposites
[12:33] <kelly_> lol, how do i go that?
[12:34] <bubu1uk> alanblins: ur' in kubuntu channel. most probably do. lol
[12:34] <kelly_> i have the info, but where do i type it
[12:34] <nagyv> bewat3r_: the tar.gz file is the source file, under ubuntu you should look for .deb files
[12:34] <bubu1uk> kelly_:sec
[12:34] <zerak> torsten-trunz look to the right and look for multiverse
[12:34] <torsten-trunz> k when you said, than i use it, i downloaded kubuntu iso from the website and installed that!
[12:34] <bubu1uk> kelly_: system settings > network settings.
[12:34] <zerak> tosten-trunz open "adept manager"
[12:34] <nagyv> bewat3r_: the main difference between the tar.gz and deb files is that the deb file is a precompiled install file for ubuntu (and similar debian based systems)
[12:35] <zerak> torsten-trunz open "adept manager"
[12:35] <torsten-trunz> is open
[12:35] <zerak> torsten-trunz then choose menu: adept -> manage reposites
[12:36] <torsten-trunz> k
[12:36] <zerak> torsten-trunz: look for multivers on the right side, efter edgy
[12:36] <nagyv> bewat3r_: try to foloow zerak's help to torsten-trunz, he is also trying to have ff2
[12:36] <bewat3r_> kk
[12:36] <bubu1uk> kelly_: did u find it?
[12:37] <zerak> torsten-trunz if it is gray shaded then right click and choose "enable"
[12:37] <zerak> torsten-trunz: then apply and update list
[12:37] <zerak> torsten-trunz: do enable for all multiverse before though
[12:38] <kelly_> yes but the admin button was hidden :P took me a minute to find that
[12:38] <bewat3r_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:38] <bewat3r_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:38] <zerak> torsten-trunz: how far have u got
[12:39] <zerak> bewat3r cant have 2 adept manager on at the same time
[12:39] <bewat3r_> comes if I use sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[12:39] <torsten-trunz> wait a minute
[12:39] <zerak> bewat3r or adept manager and console that try to access apt-get
[12:39] <bubu1uk> kelly_: lol
[12:39] <bubu1uk> works now?
[12:39] <bewat3r_> ah ok
[12:39] <zerak> bewat3r only one can access apt-get at a time, close adept manager
[12:39] <torsten-trunz> i has enabled the multi... and than i updatet
[12:40] <zerak> torsten-trunz search for firefox
[12:40] <bewat3r_> but what do I have to tipe in the terminal to get ff2?
[12:40] <kelly_> i put in the dns server address from my isp and it updated the network settings but apt still doesnt work
[12:40] <zerak> bewat3r first change source list either through console or adept manager
[12:40] <torsten-trunz> theres nothing
[12:40] <zerak> bewat3r make sure you got access to multiverse
[12:41] <bubu1uk> kelly_: when doin from konsole, do u get any errors?
[12:41] <bewat3r_> but It was the right thing to write in the terminal?
[12:41] <nagyv> fdoving: I succeeded to undelete a file using grep! :)
[12:41] <zerak> torsten-trunz: did u enable ALL multiverse -> apply -> update -> search for firefox
[12:41] <kelly_> yes
[12:41] <kelly_> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy Release.gpg
[12:41] <kelly_>   Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[12:42] <kelly_> ill try a restart and restart my router etc
[12:42] <kelly_> brb
[12:42] <alanblins> Anybody use kubuntu?
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> !anybody
[12:43] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:43] <alanblins> I am brazilian
[12:43] <bubu1uk> alanblins: told u everyone here uses it.
[12:43] <torsten-trunz> i enabled the two multivers and then i updated! but theres no firefox in the search
[12:44] <akrus> could someone help me with this f@#$%ing fglrx? :D
[12:44] <akrus> switched to Release of Edgy and now cannot install it...
[12:44] <akrus> (ver. 8.31.5 / x86)
[12:44] <bewat3r_> i got dapper what do I have to enable? I got only something with backports, anywhere alse isnt a multiverse in the discription
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> akrus: Try the kanotix fglrx script (it has been fixed to work on debian and ubuntu - and builds deb's)
[12:45] <akrus> h3sp4wn: sorry, any links? :)
[12:46] <h3sp4wn> akrus: wget -Nc -O/usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh http://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh; sudo chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh; /usr/local/bin/install-fglrx-debian.sh (X will probably restart)
[12:47] <akrus> oh thanks :)
[12:47] <zerak> torsten-trunz: a stupid question but what is checked in adept manager
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> akrus: you will need build-essential and the kernel headers and stuff (probably)
[12:48] <torsten-trunz> everything!
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> akrus: oh yes your need to run it from a text console (ctrl alt f1)
[12:48] <kelly_> bubu1uk, im back
[12:49] <akrus> h3sp4wn: downloading atm :)
[12:49] <kelly_> didnt make any difference (as i expected)
[12:50] <kelly_> can somebody resolve http://archive.ubuntu.com and tell me the ip?
[12:50] <zerak> torsten-trunz: got any version of firefox at all?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> archive.ubuntu.com has address 195.248.90.38
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> archive.ubuntu.com has address 195.248.90.35
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> kelly_: Tried upgrading the router firmware ?
[12:51] <maik> WHO -HOST *Leipzig*
[12:52] <zerak> torsten-trunz: did it say edgy or dapper left to universe in the "manage reposites"
[12:52] <kelly_> no i havnt updated the router firmware, i can  ping both the ips above but not the url
[12:52] <kelly_> :-(
[12:52] <kelly_> soooooooo irritating
[12:53] <kelly_> y did the dns devil choose me :P
[12:53] <Rythan> kelly_: Is there anything weird in your /etc/hosts file by chance?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> kelly_: To me it sounds like a bug in the dns proxy which is on the router
[12:56] <zerak> torsten-trunz: what did it say left to universe in the "manage reposites",     (maybe:   edgy, dapper or horay?)
[12:56] <kelly_> what would u describe as weird in the hosts file
[12:56] <kelly_> and also i think would have to agree witht he dns proxy problem
[12:57] <kelly_> reallt only my own hostname and 127.0.0.1 in the hosts file
[12:58] <kelly_> thanks guys for all your help, tomorrow I will update the router firmware and try again, will let u know
[01:01] <torsten-trunz> sorry atm i write in the german channel, thats easier for me, but thx for the help!
[01:06] <zerak> i am having a Hauppauge TV-tunder and Hauppauge supports suse and red hat. For red hat one have to load  # sbin/modprobe tuner.o, # /sbin/modprobe bttv.o, # modprobe i2c.o
[01:08] <zerak> i can see that bttv is loaded even though i get error when excuting "/sbin/modprobe bttv.o" .   However the other got several modules with similiar names except tuner.o and i dont got dvb folder like ubuntu guides say one should have
[01:08] <zerak> get error when excuting all of the above, but as i said bttv is loaded even if i get same error
[01:09] <zerak> s
[01:14] <deirdre> I just installed edgy and i added my wife as a user, the sound card works for me but not her her account, can someone help?
[01:14] <zerak> (a guess) check group and make sure she got access to sound devices
[01:15] <zerak> (a guess) "vi /etc/group" or whatever editor
[01:15] <deirdre> i put that she has access to audio devices
[01:15] <[raphael] > hello
[01:15] <[raphael] > how can I install kolourpaint ? It is not available in adept?
[01:16] <[raphael] > it is in the kdegraphics package
[01:16] <h3sp4wn> zerak/deirdre: You should use vigr not vi for editing /etc/group
[01:16] <zerak> deidre does her username come after: "audio:x:29:..." where ... are the users
[01:16] <[raphael] > and I installed the kdelibs-dev package and gcc
[01:16] <zerak> h3sp4wn oh
[01:16] <[raphael] > but then ./configure of kdegraphics complained about a non-working /lib/cpp
[01:16] <bubu1uk> when i start kaffeine, i get icon that it's starting, but then it doesnt start, anyone knows what can be problem?
[01:16] <[raphael] > ... now, what is /lib/cpp doing there anyway? is a compiler be supposed to be there?
[01:17] <zerak> h3sp4wn when i write vigre i get into group with vi?
[01:17] <bubu1uk> when starting thru konsole, i dont get any error. also tried to reinstall kaffeine kaffeine-xine, no help
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> yes and vigr -s to edit the shadow
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> zerak: It uses the editor alternative (so doesn't have to be vi)
[01:18] <zerak> h3sp4wn what is the shadow in this case, tought it was the passwd encrypted
[01:19] <h3sp4wn>  /etc/gshadow (it needs to be kept consistant)
[01:20] <zerak> h3sp4wn looks very much like group but other format, so if one edit either one one must also edit the other?
[01:20] <tux__> hello
[01:20] <tux__> can anyone help me
[01:20] <bubu1uk> !anyone
[01:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:20] <zerak> hard to tell without the question
[01:21] <bubu1uk> anybody knows solution with that kaffeine problem? or what that could be that it doesnt start.
[01:21] <h3sp4wn> zerak: Should do (keep it consistant)
[01:21] <zerak> try starting it through console, might give you an error
[01:22] <bubu1uk> zerak: absolutely no error. absolutely no output
[01:22] <bubu1uk> neither thru verbose mode.
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> zerak: or you can edit /etc/adduser.conf and set something for EXTRA_GROUPS
[01:22] <zerak> h3sp4wn 4 files to edit for every change? (using vigr of course =)  )
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> just vigr and vigr -s (2 files)
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> unless you are changing the default group
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> It really is alot easier to just configure adduser.conf to work as you would like
[01:24] <zerak> h3sp4wn ok thank you, now i shall try to imprint it in my mind (maybe last a couple of days)
[01:24] <zerak> inprint it
[01:24] <h3sp4wn> EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio src video lp users uml-run" (put something like that at the bottom of adduser.conf)
[01:24] <zerak> ok
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> then if you use adduser --add_extra_groups foo (then they are put into those groups)
[01:25] <zerak> then every new user get access to those, right?
[01:25] <zerak> ok
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> no but if you want to do that you have to put ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=1 (also)
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> adduser USER GROUP (works for a single group) vigr and vigr -s should not be often necessary
[01:28] <zerak> why small letter here: --add_extra_groups,  and capital letters in file?
[01:28] <h3sp4wn> just convention I guess (and that is how adduser works)
[01:29] <deathlord> Hello all!
[01:29] <deathlord> i have install ubuntu on my laptop dell latitude d600 and i have conf my wireless card
[01:29] <deathlord> but i have one problem
[01:29] <deathlord> can anyone help me
[01:29] <deathlord> ?
[01:30] <flattersr> hi deathlord
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> !anyone
[01:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:30] <deathlord> ok doki
[01:30] <zerak> ubotu they want to be polite and friendly maybe =P
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about they want to be polite and friendly maybe =P - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <zerak> ah bot
[01:31] <flattersr> deathlord that something im thinking on doing on my vivo
[01:31] <flattersr> installing Kabuntu
[01:32] <deathlord> i have my own wlan on my home and when i'm near my router i have 100% signal an when i go on the next floor on my house i have again 100% signal but i can get connection ??
[01:32] <fdoving> nagyv: you were lucky :)
[01:33] <zerak> it did recognize your wireless card?
[01:33] <deathlord> yes ubuntu has recognize my wireless card
[01:33] <flattersr> here a question im thinking on updating the motherboard and processor
[01:34] <flattersr> will this mean i will have to re-install kabuntu
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> kabuntu ? what is that ?
[01:34] <flattersr> Ubuntu 6.0
[01:34] <zerak> havent had one but have you tried your internet connection previously, tried with wire (TP) and look if that work?
[01:35] <deathlord> how i can manage my wireless conection on ubuntu
[01:35] <deathlord> ??
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> I was thinking it was a fork of some type (seams fashionable to fork projects these days)
[01:35] <deathlord> which program
[01:35] <deathlord> ?
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> deathlord: dapper or edge ?
[01:35] <tamacracker> Hey guys?
[01:35] <deathlord> dapper
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> deathlord: wpasupplicant - /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes
[01:35] <tamacracker> My sound is off and my taskbar icon is missing
[01:36] <deathlord> bash: wpasupplicant: command not found
[01:36] <tony_hlp> Hello.. Seems somehow I manage to be stuck on the text mode login screen. Any ideas how to get back KDE graphical interface when booting?
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> deathlord: read that document it will tell you how to use it
[01:37] <TheGateKeeper> tony_hlp, Ctrl + Alt F7 ?
[01:38] <tamacracker> Can someone help me recover my sound?
[01:38] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[01:38] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:38] <tamacracker> thanks
[01:39] <zerak> !tv-card
[01:39] <zerak> !tv-tuner
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv-card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv-tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <tamacracker> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems <- bad link
[01:40] <zerak> tamacracker got tv-tuner / card  ?
[01:41] <tamacracker> i dont have a tv-tuner :(
[01:41] <avigail> how do i make it so that my panel icons magnify when i go over them?
[01:41] <TheGateKeeper> zerak, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Internet_TV_.28DemocracyTV_beta.29  <-- might be some help idk
[01:42] <zerak> TheGateKeeper https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_mythtvsetup is better
[01:42] <TheGateKeeper> ok :-)
[01:42] <zerak> TheGateKeeper if you can get your computer to recognize it
[01:42] <TheGateKeeper> tamacracker, that link gives me a web page
[01:43] <zerak> me too =)
[01:43] <tony_hlp> Any ideas how to get back the KDE graphical interface... I am stuck in the TEXT MODE login SCREEN?
[01:43] <zerak> sound link that is
[01:43] <tamacracker> yeah im gettin it now.
[01:44] <zerak> tony_hlp you know that u can get KDE from console, startx, dont know where to change so it autostarts it (did it some time past)
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: try ctl alt F7
[01:44] <zerak> tony_hlp but take a look at "System settings" -> "Advanced"
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (if that doesn't work)
[01:45] <zerak> $ startx           (if ctrl alt f7 gives black screen)
[01:45] <tony_hlp> I do sudo bash to get root console... And then /etc/init.d/kdm start says KDE is running
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: well it will be on tty7 then
[01:46] <zerak> then ctrl alt f7 like they said
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> tony_hlp: if it has crashed the kdm restart thing should work
[01:46] <tony_hlp> When hitting ctrl alt f7 gives a blinking cursor nothing else
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> so try restarting kdm
[01:47] <tony_hlp> So at login startx
[01:47] <Schroeffu> Could i speak German here?
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> If you normally use kdm you either should disable it and use startx or xinit
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> !de
[01:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:48] <Schroeffu> thx :)
[01:49] <deathlord> how to play caunter strike
[01:49] <deathlord> ?
[01:50] <hades> hi all
[01:50] <hades> ive just upgraded my ubuntu
[01:50] <deathlord> how to play caunter strike
[01:50] <hades> and everything got destroyed
[01:50] <hades> i cant load my kde
[01:50] <flattersr> why what happened hades
[01:50] <hades> my x org server replyes faild to load module vesa
[01:50] <hades> no driver avaliable
[01:51] <hades> i have radeon 1600XT
[01:51] <hades> so i used the ati drivers
[01:51] <hades> from their page
[01:51] <hades> now i cant even install them from the console
[01:51] <flattersr> is there a way of backing out
[01:51] <hades> and my internet connection and configuration is nto working so ...
[01:52] <hades> i dont know what to do
[01:52] <hades> i had wait half a day to get the updates
[01:52] <hades> somone can help me ?
[01:52] <hades> flattersr: got any solution ?
[01:54] <flattersr> im trying to think if there is a way to go back to a save point on your system
[01:54] <deathlord> how can i play football manager without cedera
[01:54] <deathlord> ??
[01:54] <hades> flattersr: how can i install drivers from the consoe ?
[01:54] <probose> hey, i have a FAT32 HD and i want to mount it to be writeable. How i do it?
[01:54] <deathlord> how can i play football manager without cedera
[01:54] <deathlord> how can i play football manager without cedera
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> use windows
[01:57] <easytiger> probose: did you work it out?
[01:57] <probose> easytiger no =/
[01:57] <easytiger> is it [the HD]  installed?
[01:58] <probose> easytiger not in the moment, my friend borrowed it :P
[01:58] <probose> but he will bring me the HD today
[01:58] <probose> and i want to use it to make a backup, without destroy the windows installed in the hd, so i cant format it :P
[01:58] <easytiger> how are you connecting it?
[01:59] <easytiger> eg, ide, usb?
[01:59] <tamacracker> :\ i dont have a volume control
[01:59] <probose> ide
[01:59] <easytiger> well it should be easy to mount.
[02:00] <easytiger> it will be a /dev/hdb1 or something
[02:01] <tamacracker> can someone help me locate my volume controls?
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> tamacracker: alsamixer (directly from konsole) sudo alsactl store (when you have set them how you want)
[02:02] <julian_> #o.uni31
[02:02] <tamacracker> murder
[02:02] <julian_> join #o.uni31
[02:02] <probose> easytiger but when i mounted it, i could just read, not write
[02:02] <uksprout> OS Mepis 6.0 problem: when I play videos I can see them on the pc monito but all I get on my tv screen is blue the desktop etc all show correctly it is just the movie that is not displayed. any suggestions
[02:02] <tamacracker> oops that was for an Instant Message :D
[02:04] <easytiger> probose: you need to specify rw
[02:15] <tamacracker> totem is for gnome but what is it for kde?
[02:17] <tamacracker> can someone tell me what's totem in kde?
[02:17] <tamacracker> totem's for gnome
[02:17] <tamacracker> but i need the same app for kde
[02:17] <apokryphos> kaffeine
[02:17] <defrysk> kde uses caffeine
[02:17] <defrysk> with a k yes
[02:18] <tamacracker> thank you
[02:18] <apokryphos> all available from the K Menu
[02:18] <defrysk> it  needs libxine and libxine-extra-codecs
[02:19] <Jucato> !libxine-extracodecs
[02:19] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[02:20] <zerak_away> me again
[02:20] <zerak_away> saw you people discussed how to restart kde, 5 min later my kde krashed (evil wine). When startkde i get failure when contacting init
[02:20] <tamacracker> Jucato those are exactly what I need
[02:21] <defrysk> try starting with sudo kdm
[02:22] <zerak> tried sudo startkde
[02:22] <defrysk> try starting with sudo kdm
[02:22] <tamacracker> i did sudo kdm and it did nothing.
[02:22] <zerak> dont got any irc installed for console so i have to reboot back and forth
[02:22] <defrysk> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:22] <defrysk> then
[02:23] <defrysk> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:23] <zerak> couldnt one just do sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:24] <defrysk> zerak, I give suggestions in my free time , i dont feel like being talkad back @
[02:25] <guglielf> !traceroute
[02:25] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[02:25] <guglielf> !tcptraceroute
[02:25] <ubotu> tcptraceroute: A traceroute implementation using TCP packets. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5beta6-1 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 108 kB
[02:26] <tamacracker> that didn't help me.
[02:26] <tamacracker> it shut off my display
[02:26] <defrysk> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:27] <tamacracker> Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running.
[02:27] <tamacracker> i need help withsound
[02:27] <defrysk> ah
[02:27] <tamacracker> not display.
[02:27] <defrysk> sorry
[02:27] <tamacracker> :\
[02:27] <tamacracker> it's ok
[02:27] <defrysk> soudprobs in kde often have to do with arts
[02:28] <defrysk> just turn off hte soundserver and see if that helps
[02:28] <tamacracker> i dont know how to shut it off :\
[02:28] <tamacracker> my sound stopped working, the same day the sound volume control disseapeared from my taskbar.
[02:28] <defrysk> systemsettings > soundsystem
[02:29] <defrysk> and untic enable soundsystem
[02:29] <defrysk> save and check if your sound works
[02:30] <tamacracker> uncheck?
[02:30] <tamacracker> the enable soundsystem?
[02:30] <defrysk> uncheck yes
[02:30] <defrysk> yes
[02:30] <defrysk> apply
[02:30] <defrysk> and try sound
[02:30] <tamacracker> doesn't work
[02:30] <defrysk> ok
[02:30] <tamacracker> i cna't even control my sound.
[02:30] <tamacracker> there's no icon
[02:30] <defrysk> turn it back on
[02:30] <tamacracker> to check if it's muted
[02:31] <defrysk> rightclick empty spot on your panel
[02:31] <defrysk> add applet
[02:31] <guglielf> !locale
[02:31] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[02:31] <defrysk> select soundmixer
[02:31] <tamacracker> lol
[02:31] <tamacracker> soundmixer
[02:32] <defrysk> yes
[02:32] <tamacracker> is not the icon.
[02:32] <tamacracker> i did that already.
[02:32] <tamacracker> it's just an equalizer
[02:32] <tamacracker> that's the size of my panel.
[02:33] <defrysk> omg yourright
[02:33] <defrysk> open kmix in your cli
[02:33] <tamacracker> this is annoying me.
[02:33] <tamacracker> ok
[02:33] <tamacracker> this is what i need
[02:33] <tamacracker> kmix
[02:33] <tamacracker> and i need kmix's icon
[02:33] <tamacracker> on my taskbar
[02:34] <defrysk> go fiddle ;)
[02:34] <defrysk> go to settings
[02:34] <defrysk> and select configure kmix
[02:34] <defrysk> and tic all options
[02:35] <defrysk> volume values none
[02:35] <defrysk> slider orientation horizontal
[02:35] <tamacracker> why none?
[02:35] <defrysk> and also put it in autorun
[02:36] <defrysk> so it starts when you start kde
[02:36] <tamacracker> lol
[02:36] <tamacracker> i need my sound
[02:36] <tamacracker> no sound yet
[02:36] <defrysk> go to the output tab and work on it
[02:37] <defrysk> is beat
[02:38] <tamacracker> thanks for help/
[02:38] <defrysk> tamacracker, otherwise go to #ubuntu , crimsun is there and he is a specialist with sound issues
[02:40] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:41] <tobias_> hello friends! :)
[02:41] <zerak> no luck
[02:43] <Zarephath> Hey peeps...
[02:43] <Zarephath> I am wondering why when I execute a sudo command & and it needs the password it doesn't work...how should this be done?
[02:44] <Zarephath> example: sudo update-manager &
[02:44] <Zarephath> prompts for password then terminates execution
[02:44] <Chousuke> try with gksudo
[02:45] <Zarephath> Chousuke, : Ok but the question is specific to terminal under KDE...I would have assumed control would be in the terminal through BASH at this point?
[02:45] <easytiger> why does kaffeine take so long to load? and half the time it seems to not work then open 30 seconds later
[02:46] <zerak> any hints what to do when kdm nothing comes out of kdm start and startkde
[02:47] <Chousuke> Zarephath: ah, KDE. :P
[02:48] <Chousuke> Zarephath: in that case, ksudo
[02:48] <Chousuke> or hm
[02:48] <Chousuke> never mind me. I'm forgetting things ;(
[02:48] <Jucato> Zarephath: use gksudo or kdesu to launch graphical apps. (gksudo for GNOME, kdesu for KDE). when using '&' at the end of the command, the app is sort of "detached" from the terminal
[02:48] <Chousuke> right.
[02:49] <Zarephath> Jucato: Ahh...ok thanks that was what I was trying to understand...the why of it and not the "how" of it...
[02:50] <Chousuke> It's been a while since I used Ubuntu for an extended period of time :/
[02:50] <[Cult] Proji> hi
[02:50] <Zarephath> Chousuke, : np
[02:50] <Zarephath> Thanks for the help
[02:51] <[Cult] Proji> got a bit of a question surrounding apt
[02:51] <Zarephath> Just ask
[02:52] <zerak> i want kubuntu to start again and i would like to warn people of wine and its darker side
[02:52] <easytiger> zerak: ?
[02:52] <[Cult] Proji> it's telling me some other process is using the packaging database
[02:53] <defrysk> zerak, sudo kdm start
[02:53] <soulrider> Chousuke: kdesu
[02:53] <zerak> only one may access it, close adept manager
[02:53] <defrysk> dont forget sudo
[02:53] <[Cult] Proji> i've rebooted a number of times but get the same error
[02:53] <Zarephath> [Cult] Proji, : Uhhh..you have synaptic or something running
[02:53] <zerak> defrysk wont work
[02:53] <defrysk> too bad
[02:54] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | [Cult] Proji
[02:54] <ubotu> [Cult] Proji: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[02:54] <Jucato> defrysk, zerak: don't you mean "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"?
[02:54] <defrysk> yes
[02:55] <zerak> didnt work
[02:55] <defrysk> zerak, fist that command with stop then with start
[02:55] <zerak> did
[02:55] <easytiger> im getting dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `mzscheme' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. how do i remove this?
[02:55] <Zarephath> Or could it be that something changed it from kdm to gdm and that is why it won't run?
[02:56] <easytiger> it screwed up after the upgrade
[02:56] <defrysk> easytiger, sudo apt-get -f install
[02:56] <defrysk> easy if no go sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[02:56] <easytiger> defrysk: but i removed the package. everything works fine.. it just gives that warning
[02:56] <[Cult] Proji> ubotu, cheers mate that's cleared it up :)
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheers mate that's cleared it up :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <defrysk> easytiger, I see
[02:57] <defrysk> easytiger, reinstall it and then remove it with the --purge option
[02:57] <defrysk> apt-get remove <package> --purge
[02:57] <easytiger> good idea. but i think the repository for that one is screwed still
[02:58] <[Cult] Proji> i've got another question to do with wireless, i know there's issues on edgy with wlassassistant etc, i was just wondering if it has been resolved yet
[02:58] <defrysk> what repo is it ?
[02:58] <Zarephath> defrysk, : question about the purge option..doesn't it usually ask for the filenames of stuff it installed?
[02:58] <defrysk> purging removes all files involved with that package, including configfiles and stuff
[02:59] <Zarephath> defrysk, : Yes I attempted that once, however for some reason it asked for me to tell it the files which I didn't understand after reading the man page
[03:00] <defrysk> one could add --force Zarephath
[03:00] <Zarephath> In other words specify the files
[03:00] <Zarephath> ahh
[03:00] <Zarephath> K
[03:00] <Zarephath> defrysk,  : Thank you
[03:06] <easytiger> whats the name of the task juggler gui?
[03:08] <apokryphos> easytiger: you might have to be more descriptive. Juggler?
[03:08] <easytiger> apokryphos: http://www.taskjuggler.org/
[03:09] <apokryphos> !info taskjuggler
[03:09] <ubotu> taskjuggler: Project management application. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.0-1 (edgy), package size 1204 kB, installed size 4336 kB
[03:09] <apokryphos> easytiger: pretty sure that package comes with a GUI
[03:09] <sterilegenie> Can someone help me getting the fglrx driver to use direct rendering?
[03:10] <easytiger> apokryphos: found it.. it has an uppercase first letter
[03:11] <apokryphos> the /usr/bin/taskjuggler should be fine
[03:11] <arrautza> morning from chile
[03:11] <apokryphos> hello
[03:12] <arrautza> what about the apgrades?
[03:12] <apokryphos> huh?
[03:12] <easytiger> apokryphos: thats a command line program. TaskJugglerUI is the one
[03:12] <arrautza> ones i have runed the computer don't detect the th0
[03:12] <apokryphos> hm, so I see. That's not very standard
[03:12] <arrautza> eth0
[03:13] <arrautza> no wireless detected...the assistat will shut down
[03:14] <arrautza> this is the 3 time i have to reinstall
[03:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:19] <tamacracker> Whoa.... how come I have a Ubuntu and a Ubuntu Generic in my OS list?
[03:19] <webben> I added the repository for the Second Development snapshot of KDE4. apt-get upgrade and it says it's holding back kdelibs5 and kdelibs5-dev.
[03:19] <webben> Does anyone know whether I need to get those packages installed for the Snapshot to work properly?
[03:20] <wakka> alguien sabe como configurar una webcam en edgy? lo de que solo hay que enchufarla es una bola como un templo
[03:21] <[Cult] Proji> anyone know why on edgy everytime i try to download something with adept it comes up with a break error?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: close adept and in terminal try sudo apt-get install -f
[03:22] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: see if that downloads removes or upgrades anything
[03:22] <manwithaface> [Cult}Proji: did you upgrade or clean install?
[03:22] <[Cult] Proji> upgrade
[03:23] <manwithaface> i recomend a clean install
[03:23] <[Cult] Proji> kk
[03:23] <defrysk> [Cult] Proji, install synaptic and use that its more stable
[03:23] <defrysk> synaptic is better then adept
[03:23] <[Cult] Proji> i'll havea look at it :)
[03:23] <defrysk> !upgrade
[03:23] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:24] <[Cult] Proji> still trying to get my wireless working atm :(
[03:24] <arrautza> how can i get synaptic on kubuntu?
[03:24] <defrysk> arrautza, sure
[03:24] <manwithaface> apt-get install synaptic
[03:25] <defrysk> gnoe and kdeapps mix fine
[03:25] <defrysk> gnome*
[03:25] <gnomefreak> most of them
[03:25] <defrysk> gtk2 i should say
[03:26] <[Cult] Proji> the wireless issue is the most frustrating atm
[03:27] <arrautza> and after i get synaptic... adept most be uninstalled...??
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: no
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: you can keep both
[03:27] <arrautza> or... should i uninstall??
[03:27] <manwithaface> or uninstall, it doesn't makea differance
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: would leave it there
[03:27] <[Cult] Proji> argh break error on installing synaptic :(
[03:27] <gnomefreak> arrautza: it might depend on things you need
[03:28] <arrautza> .... like?
[03:28] <defrysk> time to do a dogwalk
[03:28] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: did you try sudo apt-get -f install
[03:28] <[Cult] Proji> just used the gui adept thing
[03:28] <gnomefreak> [Cult] Proji: just that command no package name
[03:28] <gnomefreak> hint "sudo apt-get -f install" fixes broken packages
[03:29] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[03:29] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:29] <ghostshadow189> hi all , i downloaded window decorations theme file , but now where i should extract it ?
[03:30] <[Cult] Proji> :)
[03:30] <ghostshadow189> ?????????????
[03:32] <[Cult] Proji> hmm, well fixed all that, back to attempting the wireless
[03:33] <[Cult] Proji> problem i've got with wireless is the same edgy one a lot of ppl have, my card is working and finds the network, just "connection failed"
[03:33] <pr3z1050> Hi!
[03:33] <josesito> hello all!
[03:34] <josesito> is there any way to correct filenames encoding problems other than manually renaming file by file???
[03:34] <h3sp4wn> All anyone could ever need to know about wireless is 'man interfaces and man wireless (for wep or no encryption) or /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz)
[03:34] <[Cult] Proji> if anyone knows theb est way to fix it i'd be proper happy
[03:35] <pr3z1050> when I boot Kubuntu cd, a menu appears but then the error: "disc error 20, ax=4200 drive EF" appears on the display.. what is? can someonehelp me?
[03:35] <h3sp4wn> [Cult] Proji: Read the wpa doc (zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz) anything you don't understand ask me
[03:35] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[03:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:36] <[Cult] Proji> thx h3sp4wn
[03:37] <pr3z1050> h3sp4wn, can u help me?
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> pr3z1050: sounds like the disk has not been burnt right
[03:38] <pr3z1050> :O I used a cd-rw.. probably it's that
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> did you burn DAO ?
[03:38] <pr3z1050> I use nero standard burning
[03:38] <pr3z1050> iso 9660
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> try burning DAO and at a slow speed (disk at once)
[03:38] <pr3z1050> ok! :)
[03:38] <arrautza> could it be that my problem with the eht0 and the up-grades it is releated to un official repositorys??
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> and verify as well
[03:38] <pr3z1050> I never used a linux-based os
[03:39] <pr3z1050> and knoppix gave me lots of problem on my pc! To launch it from a bootable cd and without installation, I had to write some commands :|
[03:40] <pr3z1050> I I hope kubuntu is better :)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> as a live cd kubuntu is a much worse one than knoppix
[03:41] <josesito>  is there any way to correct filenames encoding problems other than manually renaming file by file???
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> The only real use of the kubuntu live cd is for installing kubuntu
[03:44] <pr3z1050> And ubuntu is better for live cd?
[03:44] <Alter-Ego> h3sp4wn: i use the kubuntu live cd as an os
[03:45] <pr3z1050> :))
[03:45] <pr3z1050> I can't specify DAO in nero..
[03:45] <josesito> pr3z1050, maybe he means that for a live CD it uses a lot of system resources, making it almost useless for anything really important...if so, that's right. just use xubuntu's live CD and watch the difference
[03:45] <pr3z1050> it's too dummy!
[03:46] <pr3z1050> thx at all :)
[03:46] <marcix> hi guys
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: Useless (imho) kanotix and knoppix do a much better job
[03:46] <marcix> need some help
[03:46] <rooster> Hello
[03:46] <marcix> when i run ifup eth1
[03:46] <marcix> it gives me error
[03:46] <marcix> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[03:47] <marcix> it's a wifi connection
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> marcix: does eth1 appear in /sbin/ifconfig -a ?
[03:47] <marcix> why?
[03:47] <marcix> yes
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> marcix: does iwlist eth1 scan work ? what chipset is it ?
[03:47] <marcix> broadcom
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> marcix: If its broadcom did you install the firmware
[03:47] <marcix> what fw
[03:47] <marcix> i used ndiswrapper
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> did you blacklist brcm43xx ?
[03:48] <rooster> I just installed beryl and now when I press alt space to bring up Katapult it brings up the right click context menu.   I was wondering if there's a place where I can change it back so alt+space brings up katapult
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> bcm43xx ?
[03:48] <marcix> dunno
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> !blacklist
[03:48] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[03:48] <marcix> no i didnt
[03:48] <h3sp4wn> run update-modules afterwards
[03:48] <pr3z1050> I try burning kubunt as a live bootable cd :) I restart. Hi and thx! :D
[03:49] <marcix> thx for help
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> marcix: blacklist bcm43xx
[03:49] <ironfroggy> if i can see that the partition at /dev/hda1 has /initrd.img why do the boot options 'initrd=/initrd.img root=/dev/hda1' give me an error that the initrd is not found? trying to boot from the liveCD
[03:49] <marcix> the problem is now i'm in windowz
[03:49] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: are you sure initrd.img is not just a symlink ?
[03:49] <marcix> i've no internet connection on kubuntu
[03:50] <ironfroggy> oh
[03:50] <defrysk> rooster, beryl settings-manager and #beryl
[03:50] <marcix> so i've to restart my pc everytime
[03:50] <ironfroggy> cant use them?
[03:50] <arrautza> i have the sam problem...marcix
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> marcix: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[03:50] <arrautza> same
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> marcix: (do the blacklist first and read that that)
[03:50] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Do you use a seperate partition for /boot ?
[03:51] <marcix> right now i'll restart my pc to operate in linux
[03:51] <arrautza> marcix: did you get an upgrade recently?
[03:51] <marcix> no i installed kubuntu yesterday+
[03:51] <arrautza> mmmm....
[03:51] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: no
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: anyreason you don't just specify the initrd explicitly @?
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i have created a group with two member, and i want to only that group member's are can to acces (rwx) to one folder
[03:52] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: explicitly where?
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i ahve chown :myGroup ./folder and chmod 0755 ./folder
[03:52] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.19-rc6-git2-h3-1
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> but it isn't allows me to do anything with the folder
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> please helpme
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: or whatever
[03:53] <ironfroggy> h3sp4wn: because i didnt know /initrd.img was a symlink
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: Is this a self built kernel ?
[03:53] <ironfroggy> no
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> And you are using lilo ?
[03:54] <ironfroggy> i have no boot loader. thats why im trying to boot into my harddrive from the liveCD
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> just chroot to the installed system from the live cd and reinstall grub from there
[03:54] <nagyv> hello! how can I check wheather ubuntu recognizes the infra port of my laptop?
[03:55] <ironfroggy> i can not install grub
[03:55] <h3sp4wn> why not ?
[03:55] <ironfroggy> i cant get into a prompt that is actually usable from my alternative install CD and i when i try to install GRUB or LILO both fail for some reason i cant deduce.
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> ironfroggy: using lvm or some pointless software raid ?
[03:56] <ironfroggy> nagyv: nope
[03:56] <ironfroggy> just pure bad luck
[03:56] <nagyv> ironfroggy: what nope?
[03:56] <ironfroggy> also, i just tried giving the real initrd image path and it still fails. any reason why that would happen?
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> if the initrd does not exist
[03:57] <ironfroggy> nagyv: sorry, didnt mean you
[03:57] <ironfroggy> but it does
[03:57] <ironfroggy> i just looked right at it
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> ironfroggy, on the live cd or hdd vis chroot?
[03:58] <TheGateKeeper> via*
[03:58] <ironfroggy> hdd
[03:58] <ironfroggy> but cant get a chroot
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> install with debootstrap (always works)
[03:58] <ironfroggy> i dont know what that is but i think i have to go. ill look into it later.
[04:04] <nagyv> what these lines mean? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/InfraRedPNP, I have similar entries like for Medion 40653
[04:06] <zerak_away> still none who got any suggestion, kdm running but no X
[04:07] <zerak_away> then i will have to reinstall later on, thanks for taking your time
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> zerak_away, what is the problem again?
[04:08] <zerak_away> i used wine and got blackscreen, now x wont start
[04:08] <TheGateKeeper> so have you looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:09] <zerak_away> slightly, changed to nv instead of nvidia, but cant really figure out anything else that would make it refuse me connection
[04:10] <Jucato> zerak_away: using "nv" works?
[04:10] <zerak_away> nope
[04:10] <zerak_away> tried both
[04:10] <zerak_away> nv usually is default until one install nvidia i think
[04:10] <TheGateKeeper> what error message do you get?
[04:10] <Jucato> zerak_away: have you tried typing "startx"? you will get error messages there. or check /var/log/Xorg*log
[04:11] <zerak_away> as user trying to $ startx -> xint:server error
[04:11] <TheGateKeeper> usually X gives you a clue as to what is wrong
[04:11] <zerak_away> look at Xorg.0.log and it was HUGE and lots of error, dont think those i saw was the problem
[04:12] <zerak_away> but to large and dont know what to look after
[04:12] <TheGateKeeper> pastebin it please
[04:12] <zerak_away> as sudo : # startx -> x: warning priority -1 wants 0
[04:12] <zerak_away> xinit: connection refused
[04:13] <zerak_away> xinit: no such process
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> should not need to use sudo
[04:13] <TheGateKeeper> to startx that is
[04:14] <zerak_away> no but hopefully didnt hurt
[04:15] <zerak_away> havent learned irssi, yet ( would be good now )
[04:19] <silvania> hi... just upgraded to 6.10 and... like all hardware acceleration on my grahpics card died.
[04:19] <Alter-Ego> is there a way to drop back from edgy to dapper ?
[04:19] <silvania> flash movies etc lagging, opengl out the window.
[04:19] <Alter-Ego> cause edgy is way to unstable for me
[04:20] <marcix> hespawn
[04:20] <marcix> i'm back
[04:20] <marcix> after blacklisted
[04:20] <marcix> same error
[04:21] <marcix> i didnt found my_blacklist but just blacklist
[04:21] <marcix> i don't know where to run update-module
[04:22] <ghostshadow189> hi all , wat must i do after i download a file of window decoration from kde-look ?
[04:25] <kimmern> Hey! I have a intel 82852/855GM video card, and can't get direct rendering working..when I run glxinfo |grep dri I only get:
[04:25] <kimmern> libGL error: InitDriver failed
[04:25] <kimmern> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
[04:29] <nagyv> how can I found out which chipset is used in my builtin infrared port? which are the most common drivers?
[04:31] <londo4> hallo
[04:31] <londo4> is there someone who can help me with my kubuntu?
[04:32] <nagyv> londo4: that depends on your problem :) ask!
[04:32] <londo4> I`m newb and I need to know samething about kubuntu
[04:33] <Alter-Ego> !easysource
[04:33] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:33] <ccc> londo4: and the question is?
[04:33] <londo4> how can install skype into kubuntu?
[04:34] <ccc> !skype
[04:34] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:34] <ccc> there you go
[04:35] <londo4> I think I`ll never use windows again, I like kubuntu man
[04:35] <ccc> excellent choice :)
[04:36] <slinky_> hello, I installed kubuntu-desktop over Dapper and i seem to have background processes eating up cpu resources, top only shows xorg and kicker(KDEInit), any ideas?
[04:38] <londo4> I was traying to mount windows partition, I did like this: londo4@londo4-desktop:~$ sudo mount -l/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o ro, umask=0222
[04:40] <nagyv> is it possible to control kde (amarok) with bluethooth?
[04:40] <londo4> and I get this Error: mount: invalid option -- /
[04:40] <slinky_> how do I find out what a particular program does? e.g. kicker; xorg; etc.
[04:41] <nagyv> slinky_: man xorg
[04:41] <nagyv> slinky_: man stands for manual
[04:41] <slinky_> nagyv: I seem to have a background task, hogging resources, any help?
[04:41] <nagyv> slinky_: a couple of graphical programs do not have man pages, do there remains kde's help or the internet
[04:42] <xwolf-> londo4 sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o ro,umask=0222
[04:42] <nagyv> slinky_: KSysGuard will show you which programs use most memory, its console alternative is top
[04:42] <xwolf-> !mp3
[04:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <xwolf-> slinky_ ksysguard should tell who's overloading, i guess.
[04:44] <slinky_> thank you xwolf :)
[04:45] <londo4> Are ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 the same?
[04:45] <Alter-Ego> or top
[04:46] <londo4> Are ubuntu 6.06 and kubuntu 6.06 the same?
[04:46] <Alter-Ego> londo4: yes, one has the gnome desktop and the other kde
[04:47] <flattersr> london 4 yes they are
[04:50] <Alter-Ego> londo4: guess which one has the kde desktop :-)
[04:52] <nagyv> Alter-Ego: actually the guess which one has the gnome desktop is a much harder question :)
[04:56] <arrautza_> how can i install nicotine on a amd 64? ... have ear that the installation is diferent
[04:56] <arrautza_> i have...
[04:56] <londo4> Kubuntu has Kde desktop
[04:57] <londo4> kubuntu has kde desktop
[04:58] <xst> Are there any easy way to install flash player 9 on edgy?
[04:58] <LjL> !flash9 | xst
[04:58] <ubotu> xst: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:00] <arrautza_> how can i know if my kubuntu version is dapper , edgy or something else?
[05:00] <Seveas> arrautza_, lsb_release -a
[05:00] <londo4> I`m trying to istall skype on kubuntu but I get this when I press Request Install: BREAK(install)
[05:00] <londo4> what can I do?
[05:00] <Seveas> !skype
[05:00] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[05:03] <londo4> I`m trying to istall skype on kubuntu but I get this when I press Request Install: BREAK(install)
[05:03] <londo4> what can I do?
[05:03] <londo4> Or what is the problem?
[05:03] <nagyv> hmm, do you have all the dependencies?
[05:04] <londo4> I don`t know I`m newbe I don`t know what dependencies is
[05:04] <arrautza_> there some source or package for nicotine?
[05:04] <crube> I'm installing a program from a .deb file, and I do know how to install it, but I was wondering if there's a way to get programs installed this way to show somewhere in case I want to unistall them
[05:04] <crube> The way they're displayed in synaptic
[05:04] <xst> After installing flash9 from  http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ firefox no longer thinks it has flash9. What to do?
[05:04] <crube> Or adept
[05:05] <Seveas> remove flash 7 from your homedir
[05:05] <Alter-Ego> anybody use bluefish on edgy ?
[05:05] <Alter-Ego> londo4: enable backports
[05:05] <ScarFreewill> how do I download with bittorrent if my isp blocks me?
[05:05] <nagyv> londo4: what did you tried to do? how did you tried to install skype?
[05:05] <londo4> I tried from adep manager
[05:06] <xst> Seveas: I don't have flash7 in my homedir
[05:06] <Alter-Ego> ScarFreewill: they are probally blocking the torrent protocall
[05:06] <Seveas> xst, find ~/.mozilla -iname '*flash*'
[05:06] <Alter-Ego> ScarFreewill: if they are smart
[05:06] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego is there any thing i can do about it?
[05:06] <Random_Transit> hey, i'm trying to compile GAIM-vv from source, and i'm getting an error on the ./configure that says " error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check"
[05:07] <Random_Transit> how do i fix this?
[05:07] <Seveas> !compiling | Random_Transit
[05:07] <ubotu> Random_Transit: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:07] <xst> Seveas: That command doesn't return anything
[05:07] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego i live in south africa so don't count on it...
[05:07] <Seveas> xst, check about:plugins in firefox
[05:07] <Alter-Ego> ScarFreewill: not sure.  tor/vidialia/onion, but that network is slow
[05:07] <xst> Seveas: Been there, done that. No flash :-(
[05:07] <nagyv> londo4: which repositories do you have?
[05:08] <skywalk> for installing skype try this one deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[05:08] <Seveas> xst, did you restart firefo after installing flash?
[05:08] <Alter-Ego> londo4: !easysource
[05:08] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego i have a 64kbit connection so ur slow is most probbably fast for me :P
[05:08] <Alter-Ego> :-)
[05:08] <xst> Seveas: Yep. I shut it down and opened it again. Several times
[05:08] <defrysk> xst, did you shut down al  firefoxes before testing ?
[05:08] <londo4> nagyv I did like this on adep manager: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[05:09] <Alter-Ego> unless it is a torrent, kget or wget works well
[05:09] <Seveas> xst, find /usr/lib/firefox -iname '*flash*'
[05:09] <Alter-Ego> i have used wget to download feodra 5+ cd's over several weeks, 600mb x 5
[05:09] <xst> defrysk: Yes
[05:09] <defrysk> xst, did you install a homebrew firefox ?
[05:09] <nagyv> londo4: so you have added the repository, did you updated your list?
[05:09] <ScarFreewill> Alter-Ego yeah i use them both for http/ftp dls... so whats this onion/vidialia...
[05:10] <Alter-Ego> a proxy/anon router
[05:10] <londo4> I added the repositor and I updated
[05:10] <nagyv> londo4: try this command in konsole: apt-get install skype this will give you which packages are missing and needed
[05:10] <xst> Seveas: There is no flash in /usr/lib/firefox either. Something might have gone wrong during the installation. It complained about some use of uninitialized values. Shall I paste the output to #flood?
[05:10] <londo4> ok
[05:10] <nagyv> londo4: sorry: sudo apt-get install skype
[05:11] <Seveas> xst, try paste.ubuntu-nl.org instead
[05:11] <londo4> ok
[05:11] <Seveas> xst, and this should work as well: sudo update-flashplugin
[05:11] <defrysk> xst, did you finish off the install like downloading flash and the user licence acceptance ?
[05:11] <ScarFreewill> i downloaded bittornado just incase if the are blocking the port but its been runing for an our and it has not downloaded 1 byte...
[05:12] <ScarFreewill> (its still trying to connect to peers...)
[05:12] <londo4> nagyv: I get this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:12] <xst> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32756/
[05:13] <nagyv> londo4: is adept still running? close it!
[05:13] <xst> defrysk: Yes
[05:13] <Seveas> xst, woah, debconf is messed up on your system
[05:14] <londo4> Ok, Sorry nagyv i forgot to close it
[05:14] <xst> Seveas: When I did an update-flashplugin, it worked
[05:14] <Seveas> xst, if you see more errors like this for different packages, try apt-get install --reinstall debconf
[05:15] <xst> ok, thanks
[05:16] <londo4> nagyv: now I get this, Rading package lists... done Building dependency tree... done
[05:17] <nagyv> londo4: wait, until it gives a list of packages to be installed or some error, because a package is not accessible
[05:18] <londo4> nagyv:  This is the Error: Some package could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[05:18] <londo4> bla bla bla bla bla
[05:19] <defrysk> londo4, 2 things , use synaptic instead of adept
[05:19] <defrysk> and do sudo apt-get -f install
[05:19] <nagyv> londo4: and there is no package name?
[05:19] <nagyv> defrysk: why should he force the install?
[05:19] <defrysk> fix
[05:19] <defrysk> not force
[05:19] <xst> Would it harm my system to do a reinstall of debconf or will something probably brake if I do it?
[05:19] <skywalk> londo4: did you try to add some other repository to your /etc/apt/soure.list file ? may be this operation will become easier
[05:20] <linuxbomb> IS EDGY WORTH IT?
[05:20] <defrysk> linuxbomb, caps are not
[05:20] <stefano> ciao
[05:20] <londo4> I don`t know how to use /etc/apt/soure.list file
[05:20] <khirr> how can i run flash in linux?
[05:20] <defrysk> !sources.list
[05:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:20] <webben> linuxbomb, worth what?
[05:21] <linuxbomb> the upgrade
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, Depends on what you use your box for
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, in general yes
[05:21] <londo4> skywalk--- I don`t know how to use /etc/apt/source.list file
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, but Ubuntu Dapper is a Long-Term release
[05:21] <skywalk> londo4: it's easiey, may be your provider has a mirror repository; the repository list is on kubuntu/debian home page
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, so it should be a little more stable
[05:21] <linuxbomb> is edgy stable?
[05:21] <webben> linuxbomb, it is stable
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, all Ubuntu releases are stable
[05:22] <defrysk> its released so its stable
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, but it's not /as/ stable
[05:22] <defrysk> is better then dapper on desktop
[05:22] <defrysk> more stable
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, but you may wish to stick with dapper for the moment for a server
[05:22] <webben> linuxbomb, it all depends really
[05:22] <defrysk> serverusage should use dapper lts indeed
[05:23] <bobbyd> linuxbomb: if you have courier imap installed, dont' update. Unless it's fixed it totally screws your install
[05:23] <khirr> !flash
[05:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:23] <londo4> nagyv. I think this is the package: librtel
[05:23] <skywalk> londo4: you have to add this line to source.list in the /etc/apt/ directory
[05:24] <defrysk> its sources.list
[05:24] <defrysk> not source.list
[05:24] <defrysk> skywalk, make sure to spell correctly
[05:24] <skywalk> londo4: "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
[05:25] <nagyv> skywalk: he already has it, I think
[05:25] <londo4> skywalk, how can I do that, sorry I`m newbe on linux
[05:25] <skywalk> londo4: then you must update the apt-get source list with apt-get update
[05:25] <javier> buenas tardes :)
[05:25] <linuxbomb> thanks for your help -> have an icon i made http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=45595
[05:25] <defrysk> its sources.list
[05:25] <skywalk> londo4. and the giving the line command in the konsole  "apt-get install skype"
[05:25] <skywalk> londo4: be sur it works
[05:26] <skywalk> yes, it's sources list, .... sorry, too fast fingers writing
[05:27] <skywalk> ...or bad english writer :)
[05:27] <defrysk> just spell correctly otherwise nothing will work for him
[05:28] <defrysk> skywalk, and why are you loggesd in as root ?
[05:28] <skywalk> i think using the tab he will resolve spelling problems...
[05:28] <londo4> skywalk--- How can I get in source,list?
[05:28] <skywalk> it's  a training pc and i'm doing expriments...
[05:28] <nagyv> londo4: are you using edgy or dapper?
[05:28] <londo4> dapper
[05:29] <skywalk> i didn't think to chat today but now i'm here...
[05:29] <defrysk> londo4, its /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:29] <defrysk> skywalk mispelled
[05:29] <nagyv> londo4: cool, then I will give you my sources.list file, you just have to overwrite yours, and it will work, is this good for you?
[05:29] <skywalk> londo4: cd /etc/apt/
[05:29] <skywalk> londo4: vi sources.list
[05:29] <defrysk> hes even logged in as root fgs
[05:30] <londo4> kubuntu 6.06 lts
[05:30] <nagyv> skywalk: I am using Linux as a non-programmer since more then an year, but always try to avoid vi :)
[05:30] <defrysk> nagyv, nano ftw
[05:30] <Hawkwind> Nothing wrong with using vi, it simply works
[05:30] <skywalk> i use linux since 1993 and i love vi
[05:31] <skywalk> but nano is also good
[05:31] <skywalk> also kate in graphical mode
[05:31] <defrysk> nano is easyer for new users
[05:31] <londo4> nagyv--- I did it
[05:31] <nagyv> Hawkwind: yes, once you learn it, but it is very strange for an ex-windows user
[05:31] <defrysk> skywalk, started with slackware ?
[05:31] <skywalk> or any other... themust is to put the line in
[05:31] <larss0n> Ni r allt ett gng rara killar hr i denna kanalen ^
[05:31] <londo4> and now
[05:31] <nagyv> londo4: what?
[05:31] <defrysk> !no
[05:31] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[05:31] <skywalk> i started with red hat
[05:31] <Hawkwind> larss0n: English please
[05:32] <larss0n> Ni r allt ett gng rara killar hr i denna kanalen ^
[05:32] <larss0n> isaid
[05:32] <londo4> what you told me to do
[05:32] <defrysk> !de
[05:32] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:32] <Hawkwind> larss0n: English please
[05:32] <defrysk> !da
[05:32] <ubotu> For at f support til Ubuntu p Dansk bedes du venligst g til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal tales kun Engelsk.
[05:32] <nagyv> londo4: it was someone else, I think
[05:32] <khirr> !apt-get
[05:32] <skywalk> londo: cd /etc/apt/
[05:32] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:32] <larss0n> svenska
[05:32] <defrysk> !su
[05:32] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:32] <defrysk> hehe
[05:32] <nagyv> !se
[05:32] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:33] <londo4> ok
[05:33] <defrysk> got the complete polar area by now :s
[05:33] <LjL> took a few attempts didn't it
[05:33] <londo4> ok, nagyv, how can I edit my source.list?
[05:33] <nagyv> skywalk: it's up to you to tell him how to use vi! :)
[05:33] <skywalk> londo4: then you have to write      nano sources.list
[05:33] <Hawkwind> londo4: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.lis
[05:33] <defrysk> sources.list londo4
[05:33] <defrysk> its sources.list
[05:33] <Hawkwind> londo4: Replace kwrite with your favorite GUI editor of choice
[05:34] <skywalk> sources.list
[05:34] <Hawkwind> londo4: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:34] <nagyv> Hawkwind: yess! the "user v1.0" friendly way
[05:34] <Hawkwind> Darn typos
[05:34] <defrysk> Hawkwind, sources.list
[05:34] <defrysk> Hawkwind, spell correctly please
[05:34] <Hawkwind> defrysk: I know that.  It was a typo
[05:34] <Hawkwind> defrysk: Chill
[05:34] <tchize> Hello, i have made a dapper -> edgy upgrade here. However, neither kernel 386 neither kernel generic does boot. All i get is a blank cursor on screen. I still have the dapper kernel, but i'd like to fix this.
[05:34] <chx> ok, after half a day of googling, experimenting and lots of swearing I found modesetting drivers at http://people.ubuntu.com/~rodarvus/packages/xserver-xorg-video-i810/ . Is there a central list of what's there on people.ubuntu.com ?
[05:35] <defrysk> tchize, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:36] <tchize> defrysk: it refuse tu install, it says it depends on 3 packages that won't get installed
[05:36] <defrysk> tchize, to install all missing packages
[05:36] <defrysk> tchize, sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[05:36] <defrysk> try that
[05:36] <defrysk> tchize, and make sure your sources.list is correct
[05:37] <tchize> defrysk: don't works the fix-missing. Still says the same
[05:37] <defrysk> tchize, pastebin your sources.list
[05:37] <tchize> defrysk: mys sources.list has all pointed to edgy repository, no errors on apt-get update
[05:37] <defrysk> try sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:37] <defrysk> aptitude has more power
[05:38] <londo4> It is allot of information man how can I tolk with someone prived?
[05:38] <defrysk> londo4, in your case i would download the skype package manually
[05:38] <skywalk> londo4 i tried to send you a private message but i'm not registered so i can't
[05:39] <defrysk> skywalk, tell him how to download it manually and install it
[05:39] <tchize> defrysk: it propose lots of changes. Amongst those: 'kubuntu-desktop, keep uninstalled' :s
[05:39] <londo4> ok, i`m not also
[05:39] <webben> I updated to 2nd development snapshot of KDE but qmake-qt4 has disappeared
[05:39] <silvania> can anyone help me? My opengl and 3d acceleration is gone when i upgraded to kubuntu 6.10, i tried a guide to setup nvidia card, but that just broke the X completely.
[05:39] <webben> how to I get it for the 2nd dev snapshot?
[05:39] <londo4> skywalk how can download it manualy?
[05:39] <defrysk> tchize, pastebin your sources.list please
[05:41] <londo4> Hallo matias, tudo bem?
[05:41] <skywalk> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[05:41] <londo4> Matias-----falas portugues?
[05:42] <defrysk> !po
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <nagyv> londo4: you should now download it, because then you won't get the updates
[05:42] <LjL> !pt | londo4
[05:42] <ubotu> londo4: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:42] <defrysk> londo4, help in your lingo might be much easyer for you
[05:43] <tchize> defrysk: http://pastebin.com/828155
[05:43] <nagyv> londo4: copy this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32758/
[05:43] <nagyv> to your sources.list file
[05:44] <nagyv> after run an apt-get update, and install skype
[05:44] <nagyv> londo4: if you do not want amarok1.4.1, then you do not need the my last line
[05:44] <skywalk> hi londo4, hi defrysk it's time to go :)
[05:45] <defrysk> tchize, you dont have multiverse added
[05:45] <defrysk> later skywalk have a good one
[05:45] <tchize> defrysk: why woul i need multivers for a kernel?
[05:46] <defrysk> tchize, who knows , u did use multiverse in the previous vesrsion ?
[05:46] <skywalk> tx.
[05:46] <tchize> i never activated multiverse :/
[05:46] <Hawkwind> tchize: You don't need multiverse for kernels
[05:46] <defrysk> tchize, I see
[05:46] <tchize> defrysk: ok i got kubuntu-desktop installed
[05:47] <defrysk> tchize, upgrading from dapper to edgy is also not guaranteed
[05:47] <tchize> yep but i'd like not to have to reinstall my beast
[05:47] <defrysk> tchize, now do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:47] <LjL> tchize, don't know what the problem is, but you don't have edgy-updates enabled for universe. that can't be good, since you have it enabled for main and restricted
[05:48] <defrysk> LjL, well spotted
[05:48] <defrysk> missed that one
[05:48] <tchize> ok, removing
[05:48] <londo4> nagyv, one of the problem is that I can not find apt-get update on my K-menu
[05:48] <nagyv> londo4: you do not need it, just run adept, and there will be an update button
[05:48] <defrysk> tchize, adding you mean ?
[05:49] <LjL> tchize: ah, wait, you don't have security enabled either for universe! which is even worse
[05:49] <nagyv> londo4: or just run the command sudo apt-get update
[05:49] <webben> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php documentation has a serious error
[05:49] <LjL> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine#head-e1a24b1b2037f68b5a95f54388582b58ea4c9bd0 tchize
[05:49] <tchize> LjL: i read somewher there is no security update for universe, only for the main :/
[05:49] <webben> surely export KDEHOME=/home//.kde4 should read export KDEHOME=~/.kde4 ?
[05:50] <defrysk> tchize, may i advise you advise to remove the old breezy entries to avoid clutter ?
[05:50] <defrysk> tchize, did you install compiz and related in dapper ?
[05:50] <LjL> tchize: not true, i don't think
[05:50] <tchize> Ok, which lines do i change in my sources.list?
[05:50] <defrysk> tchize, remove all compiz and related
[05:51] <[Cult] Proji> how do you apply a debdiff?
[05:51] <tchize> defrysk: i removed all compiz related stuff before commenting the line, that was weeks ago
[05:51] <defrysk> tchize, good :)
[05:51] <tchize> how do i enabled 'edgy updates' ??
[05:52] <LjL> tchize i'd try like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32760/
[05:53] <LjL> tchize: i didn't touch the first three lines, since they were commented out anyway - but they'd definitely have to be changed for edgy if you wanted to enable them again
[05:53] <nagyv> arrrrgh, how can I switch off this f....d up autocompletion for the open file dialog?
[05:54] <defrysk> tchize, one more question, did you use automatix in dapper ?
[05:54] <tchize> defrysk: no problem, i'll just remove them :)
[05:54] <nagyv> wow, I just noticed that it is only for the gtk applications (like firefox), not for the real kde ones (kate)
[05:55] <tchize> ok did add edgy-updates universe and security, did a dist-upgrade, all it altered is my libpng3 :)
[05:55] <tchize> i doubt this solve my kernel problem :D
[05:55] <defrysk> sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <LjL> nagyv: KDE file boxes have autocompletion too, but it works differently - it doesn't just complete filenames on your input line without you doing anything
[05:55] <tchize> defrysk: what is automatix?
[05:55] <defrysk> after fixing sources.list
[05:55] <LjL> !automatix
[05:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:55] <tchize> did the update before too, obviously ;)
[05:55] <defrysk> tchize, correct answer
[05:55] <LjL> heh
[05:56] <defrysk> forget automatix and stay away from it :)
[05:56] <nagyv> LjL: I realized it, and I really like the kde way, but the gtk solution simply runs me crazy
[05:56] <nagyv> londo4: how is your skype going?
[05:56] <defrysk> tchize, try sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[05:57] <defrysk> tchize, dos aptitude resolve properly ?
[05:57] <defrysk> does*
[05:57] <tchize> defrysk: it keeps saying i should remove python2.4
[05:57] <londo4> i`m stil trying
[05:58] <cox377> Hello all, how do i set thunderbird as my default mail client, so when i rigt click on a file to send via email it does it via thundebird
[05:58] <nagyv> londo4: did you managed to copy the sources.list file I gave to you?
[05:58] <LjL> nagyv, me too for that matter. that's why i try and keep a KDE-only system ;)
[05:58] <defrysk> tchize, sudo aptitude install python
[05:58] <nagyv> cox377: under system settings->kde components
[05:58] <londo4> ys
[05:59] <defrysk> what does it say now ?
[05:59] <cox377> nagyv: cheers, shall take a look
[05:59] <tchize> defrysk: it's already replcing python right now :)
[05:59] <nagyv> LjL: yes, but firefox simply sucks, I like it so much
[05:59] <defrysk> tchize, cool
[05:59] <defrysk> after doe a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:59] <tchize> defrysk: it's already the dist-upgrade :D
[05:59] <LjL> nagyv, i think i read somewhere of something to make you use KDE dialogs in firefox (or GTK programs in general, don't remember). can't find it in the repos, so it was either from a web site, or i have imagined it
[05:59] <defrysk> tchize, aptitude is powerful but you need to be cautious with it
[05:59] <tchize> i just accepted the aptitude proposition :p
[06:00] <defrysk> tchize, good stuff :)
[06:00] <nagyv> LjL: I also read something about it, but when I tried to realize it nothing happened :(
[06:00] <LjL> nagyv: ah i guess this was it http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=36077
[06:00] <defrysk> gonna make a cuppa
[06:00] <LjL> not that i've tried it
[06:00] <cox377> nagyv: it's already set to thunderbird, but when i carry out the action it says "can't find kfind" you got any further ideas?
[06:01] <tchize> ok aptitude has nothing more to say to me except that foomatic-filters-ppds is broken
[06:01] <nagyv> cox377: is it starting you any programs?
[06:01] <tchize> what next at kernel level? :)
[06:02] <cox377> nagyv: nah, just comes up saying cannot find the kmail program
[06:02] <cox377> but it's not set to kmail, it's set to thunderbird
[06:02] <nagyv> cox377: it can not find kfind or kmail?
[06:02] <defrysk> tchize, aptitude install foomatic-filters-ppds
[06:02] <cox377> nagyv: kmail*** sorry
[06:03] <nagyv> cox377: restart kde (who knows :) )
[06:03] <cox377> nagyv: lol, it's a prob i've always had never got round to trying to fix it
[06:04] <LjL> nagyv: uhm, it seems you might also try going to about:config and changing the value of "ui.allow_platform_file_picker" (from true to false i suppose)
[06:04] <tchize> defrysk: it says it's already latest version :)
[06:05] <nagyv> cox377: does this happens from konqueror?
[06:05] <defrysk> tchize, good
[06:06] <cox377> nagyv: what exactly do u mean?
[06:06] <defrysk> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again tchize
[06:06] <nagyv> if you click on an e-mail link in konqueror, do you have the same problem?
[06:06] <defrysk> see what it does
[06:06] <tchize> defrysk: ok, aptitude dist-upgrade now says everything is ok
[06:06] <LjL> nagyv, try the ui.allow_platform_file_picker thing - it doesn't use KDE dialogs, but it does give you dialogs that don't auto-complete like gnome's
[06:06] <defrysk> tchize, now sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:07] <defrysk> tchize, and then you should be done
[06:07] <nagyv> LjL: I do not have such a setting, but I will add it
[06:07] <tchize> says latest version is installed, nothing to do
[06:07] <LjL> nagyv, besides, do your Gnome file dialogs appear with a white background as well in Edgy? (assuming you use gtk-qt-engine; this didn't happen in dapper for me, and another thing is that, if i start a GTK program from the console, the colors are messed up)
[06:07] <defrysk> tchize, then you are done afaIk
[06:07] <tchize> defrysk: er, we did not touch anything at kernel problem :/
[06:07] <LjL> nagyv, then perhaps you're on dapper?
[06:07] <LjL> nagyv, that settings is in firefox 2.0
[06:08] <defrysk> tchize, whats the kernel prob ?
[06:08] <nagyv> LjL: I just had to add the setting as a new logical value
[06:08] <tchize> defrysk: does not boot, black screen with blank cursor, generic and 386, same problem
[06:09] <nagyv> cox377: if you click on an e-mail link in konqueror, do you have the same problem?
[06:09] <LjL> nagyv: weird, it was there by default (set to true) here
[06:09] <defrysk> tchize, did the new kernel install ?
[06:09] <tchize> yes
[06:09] <nagyv> LjL: I do use dapper
[06:09] <tchize> there was no package problem with kernel package
[06:09] <defrysk> hmm
[06:09] <LjL> nagyv: ah, ok - but that's weird as well, because that setting as far as i could understand isn't *supposed* to work with firefox < 2.0... :o)
[06:09] <defrysk> not sure
[06:10] <tchize> i can issue an aptitude reinstall on kernel pacakge to be sure :/
[06:10] <defrysk> tchize, use apt-get
[06:10] <defrysk> aptitude is for emergencies
[06:11] <cox377> nagyv: not sure, 2 secs i shall check
[06:11] <tchize> defrysk: apt-get has no 'reinstall' :)
[06:11] <defrysk> tchize, --reinstall
[06:11] <nagyv> londo4: how is it going?
[06:11] <tchize> arf
[06:11] <defrysk> ;p
[06:11] <tchize> ok, did it with aptitude :)
[06:11] <defrysk> cool
[06:11] <tchize> rebooting :)
[06:11] <londo4> nagvy, big problem up here
[06:11] <cox377> nagyv: nah, that actually opens the link in thunderbird
[06:12] <londo4> I can`t open my adep
[06:12] <defrysk> also check the fstab for its modified in 6.10
[06:12] <nagyv> cox377: yeah, so the application you would like to use is not fully integrated into kde, you should set this somewhere in that application. Is it firefox?
[06:13] <tchize> defrysk: still same behaviour, i get kubuntu splash, then i get black screen with blinking cursor :/
[06:13] <cox377> nagyv: well when i want to send a file that's on my desktop, i right click - Actions/email file
[06:14] <defrysk> tchize, you need a specialist in this
[06:14] <defrysk> <-- not
[06:14] <defrysk> tchize, run dmesg
[06:14] <defrysk> see where it fails
[06:14] <tchize> defrysk: well dmesg, to run it, it need the kernel to boot :)
[06:15] <defrysk> lol
[06:15] <nagyv> cox377: for me it seems to be a bug, try to get some help in the #kde channel or file a bug report
[06:15] <defrysk> tchize, doe you have your stuff backed up on that box ?
[06:15] <defrysk> on is from
[06:16] <tchize> defrysk: i can still boot the older kernel (dapper one) with no problem
[06:16] <defrysk> tchize, thats good
[06:16] <defrysk> does it say startup..... whan you boot ?
[06:16] <defrysk> when
[06:16] <defrysk> with the new kernel ?
[06:16] <defrysk> before the bootsplash that is
[06:17] <londo4> nagyv, are you there?
[06:17] <nagyv> londo4: yep
[06:17] <defrysk> tchize, sudo apt-get install startup-tasks
[06:18] <londo4> I can`t open the adep
[06:18] <londo4> adept
[06:18] <nagyv> londo4: run an apt-get update from the console
[06:19] <tchize> defrysk: starting in alternate load, i get boot message, then i get this load drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6 then nothing more
[06:19] <defrysk> tchize, sudo apt-get install startup-tasks
[06:19] <tchize> defrysk booting old kernel right now :p
[06:19] <defrysk> :D
[06:19] <tchize> a moment please :D
[06:19] <ubuntu> Bonjour
[06:20] <ubuntu> J'ia besoin d'aide
[06:20] <nagyv> !fr
[06:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:20] <defrysk> !info startuptasks | tchize
[06:20] <tchize> defrysk: already latest version
[06:20] <londo4> it says E: unable to lock the list directory
[06:20] <ubotu> Package startuptasks does not exist in any distro I know
[06:20] <defrysk> shit
[06:20] <nagyv> ubuntu: ici utilisez anglais
[06:21] <londo4> nagyv--- Unable to lock the list directory
[06:21] <nagyv> londo4: (when in the console you get a locked process error, then adept says nothing)
[06:21] <nagyv> londo4: probably when you were trying to install from the command line did not finished the process properly
[06:21] <n3storm> hi everyone
[06:21] <defrysk> tchize, My advise is to go to #ubuntu , its a bigger channel with more g33ks
[06:21] <nagyv> londo4: are there any other adept/konsoles running in which an apt-get is running?
[06:22] <defrysk> and better geeks perhaps
[06:22] <londo4> I don`t any
[06:22] <Dr_willis> defrysk,  Bah! :)
[06:23] <defrysk> Dr_willis, ;p
[06:23] <Dr_willis> I like it here... less..... ranting..
[06:23] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:23] <nagyv> londo4: alright, then go and delete the file mentioned in the error message
[06:23] <tchize> defrysk: ok
[06:23] <nagyv> londo4: you can delete it only as root: kdesu konqueror will help
[06:23] <defrysk> Dr_willis, if you can help tchize be my guest :)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> I just woke up.. im lucky to even find the keyboard...
[06:24] <defrysk> lol
[06:24] <bubu1uk> !cz
[06:24] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> and if hes having probmenms from doing a 'upgrade' to edgy... well.. I always do a clean install...
[06:25] <defrysk> agree
[06:26] <tchize> but i don't want to have to do a 'clean install' every 6 months :/
[06:27] <Dr_willis> i keep /home on its own partition.. and i do a clean install...
[06:27] <nagyv> tchize: and do you need the recent OS? (it was hard to say no, but I finally arrived to it) I plan to have dapper at least until midterm, so I can switch to the next LTS in two steps
[06:28] <Dr_willis> very few issues.. and yes the  upgrade to Edgy is a HUGE jump. Im suprised any upgrades worked.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <XVampireX> Edgy wasn't a huge jump
[06:28] <defrysk> Dr_willis, my upgrade worked ;)
[06:28] <defrysk> from breezy > dapper > edgy
[06:28] <nagyv> XVampireX: he just woke up, that was a huge jump! :)
[06:29] <tchize> nagyv: wanted to have that hibernation thing, a less verbose boot too
[06:29] <XVampireX> nagyv: What?
[06:29] <defrysk> but its for my wive's pc
[06:29] <tchize> for the less verbose boot, am happy, there is *nothing* :D
[06:29] <Dr_willis> I just installed "Linux Mint" on my laptop. :)
[06:29] <Dr_willis> to test it out.
[06:29] <defrysk> Dr_willis, mint does gnome iIac
[06:29] <Dr_willis> interesting varient of ubuntu.
[06:29] <nagyv> tchize: I know this feeling, I would like to have it too, but I do not have a day every half an year for some new cool things :(
[06:29] <Dr_willis> defrysk,  yep. so i installed kubuntu-desktop :)
[06:30] <XVampireX> Soon Linux Mint will be useless
[06:30] <Dr_willis> XVampireX,  perhaps.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> XVampireX,  we can hope.
[06:30] <defrysk> Dr_willis, amarok was preinstalled right ?
[06:30] <XVampireX> Feisty Fawn
[06:30] <Dr_willis> defrysk,  not sure. let me check
[06:30] <defrysk> i think it was
[06:30] <defrysk> so video codecs and audio codecs are there
[06:30] <Dr_willis> I know that mp3, flash, and most  videos worked.
[06:30] <filipsss> some Brazilian here???
[06:31] <Dr_willis> I dont think it had the wireelss stuff i needed
[06:31] <defrysk> wich is cool
[06:31] <Dr_willis> Ive got no dvd's so cant test that part.
[06:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <defrysk> hehe
[06:31] <defrysk> now for the christian ubuntu
[06:31] <defrysk> hindu ubuntu
[06:31] <defrysk> il=slam ubuntu
[06:31] <defrysk> islam*
[06:32] <jamonation> athiest
[06:32] <defrysk> and not to forget , the aboriginal ubuntu
[06:32] <defrysk> didgeridoo ubuntoo
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Been playing with PuppyLinux on my other machines.. we need a "Mini-Ubuntu!"
[06:33] <defrysk> a net install ubuntu would be nice
[06:33] <skipjack> Who can I edit runlevels (init.d) entries  like kdm to start or not start? chkconfig isn't found on system is there an other tool in the console ?
[06:33] <defrysk> time for a dogwalk
[06:34] <Dr_willis> kdm/gdm are started by services
[06:34] <Dr_willis> you can just delete th entry in the #2 runlevel. or use the sysv tools to manage them
[06:34] <Dr_willis> Ive never used chkconfig - isent that disrto specific?
[06:35] <skipjack> Dr_willis:  I think it is distro. specific ..
[06:35] <Dr_willis> I think theres a similer tool. but not sure of the name rc-SOMTHING
[06:35] <skipjack> hmm oky but there isn't any tool to configurate them only deleting  the services files ?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> There a great many tools. :)
[06:36] <Dr_willis> I know how to delet them by hand.. and its faster for me.
[06:37] <Dr_willis> KDE has a 'systems services' tool in the contorl center.
[06:37] <tchize> ok, going thru a poor reinstall :'(
[06:38] <flattersr> hi room
[06:38] <flattersr> does anyone know where to set the super user password
[06:38] <tchize> flattersr: in a console, type sudo passwd
[06:40] <flattersr> cheer for that tchize
[06:40] <flattersr> will note that down for future refernce
[06:41] <claudiu> good evening
[06:41] <tchize> flattersr: well technically you shouldn't need to type that passwd, unless you need to install some oddities :)
[06:41] <londo4> nagyv, are you there?
[06:41] <nagyv> londo4: yep
[06:41] <londo4> I can`t open konsole, adept
[06:41] <flattersr> well im trying to installs some stuff from terminal
[06:41] <nagyv> londo4: you can't open konsole?
[06:42] <londo4> nop
[06:42] <flattersr> hense it keep on asking for the super user password
[06:42] <claudiu> how can i set a custom timeout for "apt-get update" because some repositories take forever to respond ?
[06:42] <nagyv> londo4: how do you try to open it?
[06:43] <londo4> now is ok, angyv
[06:43] <nagyv> flattersr: you should run the install program as sudo or give a password to the superuser
[06:43] <nagyv> londo4: so, did you deleted the lock file?
[06:44] <claudiu> can anyone tell me how can i set a custom timeout for "apt-get update" because some repositories take forever to respond ?
[06:44] <londo4> can i delet from konsole?
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[06:44] <londo4> because I put apt-get update
[06:44] <claudiu> how can i set a custom lower timeout for "apt-get update" because some repositories take forever to respond ?
[06:44] <[Cult] Proji> still not got my wireless to work :(
[06:44] <nagyv> claudiu: we have read your question, but probably we don't know the answer or are just thinking about,  be patient (set a higher timeout for yourself :) )
[06:44] <londo4> I get this Error
[06:45] <nagyv> londo4: is this the error :)
[06:45] <claudiu> nagyv: sorry, ok
[06:45] <londo4> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied
[06:45] <nagyv> londo4: do you have midnight commander installed? try running sudo mc
[06:45] <nagyv> londo4: this is what I expected :)
[06:46] <nagyv> so, try sudo mc
[06:46] <nagyv> !patient
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patient - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <londo4> sudo: mc: command not found
[06:46] <tchize> claudiu: don't know exactly, never tried, but there is timeout related documentation in 'man apt.conf'
[06:46] <nagyv> !patience | nagyv
[06:46] <ubotu> nagyv: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <claudiu> tchize: thanks a lot. i'll read that
[06:47] <londo4> nagyv--- sudo: mc: command not found
[06:47] <nagyv> then run kdesu konqueror
[06:47] <nagyv> londo4: ^^^
[06:47] <nagyv> londo4: this will open a konqueror window as super user, navigate to /var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:48] <nagyv> londo4: and delete the lock file
[06:48] <ypsila> good evening
[06:49] <ypsila> |Pazuzu: *kicher*
[06:50] <|Pazuzu> ypsila der aufruf : alle deutschen nach #kuntu-de ?
[06:50] <|Pazuzu> *#kubuntu-de
[06:50] <kingduct> Hello, I just installed kubuntu with the alternate CD.  It never asked for a username or password.  I rebooted when it finished and I have no idea what the default username and password are.  Any ideas?
[06:50] <ypsila> |Pazuzu: you mean #kubuntu-de
[06:51] <|Pazuzu> right ypsila
[06:51] <keith> I need some help @.@  I just installed Edgy on my laptop, and I ran Automatix and all that good stuff, then rebooted, and now I can't login to KDE
[06:51] <keith> It will just show me the KDM background after I put in my password, and go no further
[06:52] <flattersr> when you first switch it on does the system give you the option to duel boot
[06:53] <flattersr> or have you got it 100% linux
[06:54] <LjL> !automatix | keith
[06:54] <ubotu> keith: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[06:54] <[Cult] Proji> i've found a debdiff that shiould fix the edgy wlassistant issues, was just wondering how i'm meant to apply it
[06:54] <londo4> nagyv I can`t find this /var/lib/apt/lists
[06:54] <londo4> from konqueror
[06:54] <Dr_willis> try the shell.
[06:54] <keith> LjL: So you think Automatix broke my system?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> it exists. :)
[06:55] <LjL> keith: could be, it's always kind of hard to tell what automatix does unfortunately
[06:55] <mikepence> anyone know of a way to assign keystrokes to switching desktops in pager?
[06:55] <kingduct> why didn't the alternate install CD ask for a username and password?  I finished the install, and I have no idea how to login because I don't know the default user and password?
[06:55] <LjL> keith: perhaps you might want to take a look at /var/log/kdm.log
[06:55] <Dr_willis> kingduct,  Hmm.. it should of asked for a user/password at end of the install.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> kingduct,   you dident  tell it to use 'root' as the user when it asked did you?
[06:56] <kingduct> argh...is there a default or must I try to install again?
[06:56] <Dr_willis> There is no default.. i find it hard that you just missed the requestor.
[06:56] <kingduct> when did it ask?  I just waited forever while it installed and then it told me to take out the CD.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> Its always asked me.
[06:56] <LjL> kingduct, boot with "init=/bin/sh" as a kernel parameter, do "cat /etc/passwd", and see if there is an user (should have ID 1000)
[06:57] <nagyv> londo4: try under /var/lib/dpkg
[06:57] <kingduct> okay, thank you...I'll get back if I need more help.
[06:57] <kingduct> looks like maybe I just forgot my password...
[06:58] <Dr_willis> thats why i always use 'password' :)
[06:58] <londo4> nop
[06:58] <Dr_willis> You typed it in not 5 min ago and allready frogot it. :)
[06:58] <ypsila> Dr_willis: you use "password" as pw?
[06:58] <nagyv> londo4: you can not find this directory?
[06:59] <mikepence> ah, ctrl + F<desktop>
[06:59] <kingduct> well, I started the install while I was still asleep and the computer took about 2 hours to install (old computer).  I am busy trying all of the passwords I ever use...
[06:59] <londo4> nagyv--- nop
[06:59] <LjL> why not? i use "pw" though, it's shorter to type
[06:59] <PR006> hiall
[06:59] <nagyv> londo4: I am really surprised. Just type: /var/lib/dpkg in the address bar of konqueror
[07:00] <kingduct> while I am on here, can I use a xubuntu or ubuntu CD to install more programs to my kubuntu distro?
[07:00] <Dr_willis> ypsila,  :)
[07:00] <PR006> kingduct, sure
[07:00] <tchize> mm nice edgy installer won't recognize my lvms :s
[07:00] <Dr_willis> username root, password: toor
[07:00] <Dr_willis> Heh.
[07:00] <kingduct> will synaptic just search for them?
[07:01] <jesse__> not synaptic but adept
[07:01] <Dr_willis> kingduct,  ya could..  but i find it easier to just get them off the internet. since that will also get the updates if any.
[07:01] <Makro2> hello
[07:01] <jesse__> Dr_willis:> I can't, I still don
[07:01] <PR006> hi Makro2
[07:02] <londo4> it ok, now
[07:02] <jesse__> Dr_willis:> I can't, I still don't know how
[07:02] <londo4> nagyv its ok now
[07:02] <Makro2> is there any way to run a filesystem onto another?
[07:02] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  huh?
[07:02] <nagyv> londo4: so, delete the "lock" file
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Makro2,  Huh?
[07:03] <jesse__> I dont' know how to update the 'sources' list of the adept package manager
[07:03] <londo4> nagyv-- Ok
[07:03] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  fire up adept click the check box's at the top to use the other repos... start installing..
[07:03] <londo4> I delleted it
[07:03] <nagyv> londo4: now run apt-get update
[07:03] <Dr_willis> or use the package manager menu/settings to enable them... OR manually edit the sources.list
[07:03] <Dr_willis> !adept
[07:03] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:04] <Dr_willis> actually its that 'add/remove programs' adept variant that has the check box's i think.
[07:04] <Makro2> i mean to "run" another filesystem onto another running, like if i want to use older programs installed on an older linux parition on a hard disk and i want to mount that partition and use it as another o.s. running in a window.....
[07:04] <londo4> angyv--- E: could not open  lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[07:04] <Dr_willis> Makro2,  chroot to the other install. and run stuff.. is possible.
[07:05] <londo4> - op (13 permission denied)
[07:05] <nagyv> londo4: hmm, now try to locate this file, and delete it (as before)
[07:05] <jesse__> Dr. Willis:> i did, their all check but I still can't get the application i want to install
[07:05] <londo4> ok
[07:05] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  and the app is?
[07:06] <jesse__> kmymoney
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !info kmymoney
[07:06] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in any distro I know
[07:06] <Dr_willis> aparently its not in the repos jesse__
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !find mymoney
[07:06] <ubotu> Found: kmymoney2
[07:06] <jesse__> I know I did it
[07:06] <Makro2> Dr_willis: with that method the programs will look on my first os the thinge they need, and will not find nothing, so an error message will appear
[07:06] <Dr_willis> there we go..
[07:06] <Dr_willis> !info kmymoney2
[07:06] <ubotu> kmymoney2: Personal finance manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-4 (edgy), package size 6913 kB, installed size 14184 kB
[07:06] <jesse__> it's not there
[07:06] <jesse__> at all
[07:07] <jesse__> my disto is Dapper-drake
[07:07] <Dr_willis> Its in edgy... i just installed it.
[07:07] <Dr_willis> thats your problem then. its not in Dapper aparently
[07:08] <jesse__> I am using Adept Package manager
[07:08] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  so... if its NOT in the dapper repos.. its not in the repos..
[07:08] <Dr_willis> unless theres some alternative repos.
[07:08] <jesse__> Is there anyway i can still get it?
[07:08] <Dr_willis> Not sure how to make the bot search the dapper repos only.
[07:09] <Dr_willis> jesse__,  you could always use the source I guess.
[07:09] <defrysk> !info firefox > dapper
[07:09] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:09] <defrysk> !info  firefox | daper
[07:09] <defrysk> !info  firefox | daper
[07:09] <defrysk> !info  firefox | dapper
[07:09] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:09] <jesse__> ok but if something goes wrong i will ask
[07:10] <defrysk> no clue
[07:11] <jesse__> and I'm not using firefox i am using Konqueror
[07:12] <filipsss> algum brasileiro?
[07:12] <defrysk> !pt
[07:12] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:14] <jesse__> does any one know where i can find the source package or the deb package for the C compiler
[07:17] <trella> J #/kanotix
[07:18] <londo4> angyv---> I did apt-get update, I have 2 error: Err http://package.freecontrib.org dapper relase
[07:18] <cntb> hp laser printer connected to want to share a printer for windows machine
[07:18] <nagyv> londo4: cool! :)
[07:18] <jesse__> thanks
[07:19] <cntb> hp laser printer connected locally  want to share that printer for windows machine to print
[07:19] <londo4> and Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages 404 not found
[07:19] <londo4> is thit normal?
[07:19] <cntb> !samba
[07:19] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:19] <kpenrose> Help!!  Added new user - none in sudoers - can't do anything as root!! What can I do??
[07:20] <cntb> !swat
[07:20] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:20] <londo4> angyv--: What can I do now?
[07:20] <londo4> Are this 2 err normal? angyv?
[07:21] <nagyv> londo4: more or less :) you will have to add the authentication key to this repository
[07:21] <nagyv> londo4: first try the instructions here, under authenticated packages: http://packages.freecontrib.org/plf/
[07:21] <londo4> ok
[07:21] <kpenrose> any sudo gurus?
[07:22] <nagyv> londo4: for me it did not worked, but I will tell you my solution if needed
[07:22] <nagyv> kpenrose: sudo IS the guru :)
[07:22] <kpenrose> not for me... :-(
[07:22] <Dr_willis> kpenrose,  you can boot to single user mode and  add the user to the sudoers group i belive
[07:23] <cntb> how to quickly check if samba is installed ? btw is it included in default install?
[07:23] <kpenrose> DR_willis:  I'll try anything - I'm stuck otherwise.  Man page says first user is put in sudoers, but it didn't happen in Edgy.
[07:23] <nagyv> will firefox2.0 be backported to dapper?
[07:23] <londo4> ok
[07:23] <Dr_willis> in  /etc/group  you want the  admin:x:114:willis  (or whatever user you got)
[07:23] <cntb> kpenrose: in ubuntu you sudo all the time to get system to work
[07:24] <nagyv> londo4: this means that the command line answered OK ?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> !fixsudo
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixsudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[07:24] <londo4> no
[07:25] <delight> Dr_willis you can anytime edit your passwd/shadow with an bootet desktop cd and delete the password
[07:25] <londo4> can I put this command line into konsole?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> delight,  of course. :)  i do it all the time.
[07:25] <delight> that way you will be able to acces
[07:25] <delight> oh ..
[07:25] <Dr_willis> live cd's are a MUST have tool in any leet-haxors-tool-box. :)
[07:26] <Dr_willis> New release of PuppyLinux today also it seems.  heh. thats a nice micro-tiny distro/livecd
[07:27] <Dr_willis> I used a live cd to save a guys XP data once.. and earned $20 :)
[07:27] <nagyv> londo4: yes
[07:27] <nagyv> londo4: you have to :)
[07:29] <londo4> angyv---; No such file or directory
[07:29] <webben> Ah does the 2nd development snapshot of KDE require removal of all kdecopy packages?
[07:30] <nagyv> londo4: this was my problem also :) copy the link from the wget command into konqueror's/firefox's address bar
[07:31] <TonySt> All right - I need some MAJOR help with my wireless card.  Ever since updating from Breezy to the next one up, I've not been able to access my network.  I remember I had some problems with it initially, but got over them pretty quickly.  I've searched around and it appears I need some driver for it, but I don't know what driver to get, how to get it, nor how to impliment it.
[07:31] <TonySt> (at least I didn't ask to ask ;-) )
[07:31] <nagyv> londo4: then right-click: show source, copy everything from there to a new file (created by kwrite or kate). save this file as whatever.gpg
[07:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:31] <kdefrysk> kde development snapshots are hardly usable
[07:31] <londo4> now I have this on konsole: 100%[[07:31] <Dr_willis> Dont look at me.. i couldent get wireless working consistantly on a XP box.. so i ran wires...
[07:32] <nagyv> londo4: that is cool
[07:32] <TonySt> Dr_willis, Aah - I wish I could, but something's borked about my wire setup, too - it was when i was running windoze, and it still is.
[07:32] <nagyv> londo4: run this command: wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- > key.gpg
[07:33] <TonySt> Now, I've been using ndiswrapper constantly, but it's simply not recognizing my card.
[07:33] <nagyv> londo4: this will save the file on the web to key.gpg on your local drive
[07:33] <TonySt> Anyone have any dieas?
[07:33] <TonySt> ...er...ideas?
[07:33] <nagyv> londo4: then run sudo apt-key add key.gpg
[07:34] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  dependign on the card ndiswarppers may not be needed any more
[07:34] <TonySt> Dr_willis, hmm... Well, it's not connecting anyway :-(
[07:35] <Dr_willis> yep - is it a driver issue.. or a config issue... is the big question
[07:37] <webben> qtmake-qt4 is in the libqt4-dev-kdecopy package; so when installing kde4 snapshot 2, how are you supposed to have qmake when that package conflicts with kdelibs5 and the other 2nd snapshot packages?
[07:37] <londo4> angyv--; With sudo apt-key add key.gpg, says  pgp: can`t opn key.gpg: No such file or directory
[07:37] <thierry> xorg 7.1 for dapper?
[07:37] <nagyv> londo4: did you run this command: wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- > key.gpg
[07:38] <nagyv> londo4: paste all these commands into the console
[07:39] <TonySt> anything anyone said to me after 13:37 EST, I did not recieve.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> not a lot was said. :P
[07:39] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  dependign on the card ndiswarppers may not be needed any more
[07:39] <Dr_willis> yep - is it a driver issue.. or a config issue... is the big question
[07:39] <TonySt> i got those
[07:39] <TonySt> hmm
[07:40] <heinkel_111> hello
[07:40] <heinkel_111> can someone help me with a little problem please?
[07:40] <heinkel_111> my machine just crashed, and now i lost my dualscreen setup somehow
[07:40] <TonySt> Dr_willis, is there some sort of an app that 'scans', like windows does, for networks in the area?
[07:41] <heinkel_111> i dont understand why, I 've succesfully restored my xorg.conf ?
[07:41] <heinkel_111> but still i get only 1 screen up :(
[07:41] <londo4> nagyv--> 100%[[07:42] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  theres several network scanner tools out. Ive not used any for wireless however.
[07:42] <nagyv> londo4: then run sudo apt-key add key.gpg
[07:42] <TonySt> Dr_willis, Can you point me in the right direction for a download of one of these tools? :-)
[07:43] <nagyv> TonySt: I think that Wireless Manager does it (it is boundled to kubuntu by default)
[07:43] <londo4> angyv--: Ok
[07:43] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  nope.. check the packge manager.
[07:43] <nagyv> londo4: run apt-get update
[07:43] <Dr_willis> and the wiki/forums
[07:43] <Dr_willis> ive just about given up totally on wireless.
[07:43] <TonySt> Dr_willis, I will/have...
[07:43] <TonySt> nagyv, looking now...
[07:43] <TonySt> crap, heh...
[07:44] <TonySt> if forgot
[07:44] <TonySt> it's not that i can't get a network, it's that it's not recognizing my card...
[07:44] <TonySt> sigh
[07:44] <nagyv> londo4: of course don't forget about sudo! you have to run sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <Dr_willis> its possible the old ndiswrapper settings/instll is messing with the new drivers/stuff.
[07:44] <TonySt> Dr_willis, I overwrote every settings file on the computer when I updated it to whatever the newer one is
[07:45] <claudiu> hello, all
[07:45] <TonySt> hello
[07:45] <claudiu> is it normal for "Storage Media" to show "/media" instead of "media:/"   ?
[07:45] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  perhaps....
[07:45] <londo4> angyv---,; now there is only one Err http://kubuntu.org dapper/main Packages
[07:46] <londo4> 404 Not found
[07:46] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  the old ndiswrapper stuff could still be getting loaded. or some other issues..  ive herad/read of others with similer problems in the forums/wikis
[07:46] <nagyv> londo4: please copy the output to pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:48] <Dodger73> hi all
[07:48] <berger> hallo
[07:48] <claudiu> does anyone know why I cannot mount harddrive partitions by using the mouse in "Storage Media" ?
[07:49] <londo4> angyv---  I did it
[07:50] <Dodger73> got a problem with the latest nvidia drivers - the nvidia kernel module doesn't seem to be loaded correctly on boot. kdm hangs itself, so i've got to go to tty1, sudo rmmod nvidia;sudo killall kdm; sudo kdm
[07:50] <nagyv> londo4: then please give me the url you have received
[07:50] <Dodger73> at which point the nvidia kernel module is reloaded, the splash screen comes up, and kdm starts
[07:50] <Dodger73> but i've always got to do that manually
[07:50] <londo4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32781/
[07:51] <claudiu> can anybody mount partitions in "Storage Media" in kubuntu edgy ?
[07:52] <nagyv> londo4: anyway, you should be able to install Skype with apt-get install skype, in the meantime I will check your paste
[07:52] <Dodger73> claudiu: i think storage media is for removable devices only
[07:52] <nagyv> londo4: from where did you get your sources.list file?
[07:53] <claudiu> Dodger73: can you tell me how do YOU mount your partitions in KDE3.5.5 ?
[07:53] <Dodger73> claudiu: try this: in the panel, click on the little arrow by storage media, select configure storage media
[07:53] <Dodger73> you'll get a list box with all different types of media
[07:53] <intelikey> i'm at a loss, what do people get out of breaking other peoples computers ?   or interrupting an irc channel ?     or spamming email servers ?   ???
[07:53] <Dodger73> hard disk volumes are not checked by default in that list
[07:54] <Dodger73> try checking them
[07:54] <Dodger73> my hard drives are mounted via fstab
[07:54] <claudiu> Dodger73: sorry, which panel is that ?
[07:54] <Dodger73> claudiu: to clarify, you're using KDE, right?
[07:55] <claudiu> Dodger73: yep
[07:55] <Dodger73> you have the storage media applet in your panel?
[07:55] <intelikey> it;s kicker
[07:55] <Dodger73> kicker, the panel with the k menu in it?
[07:55] <intelikey> yep
[07:55] <Dodger73> ok
[07:55] <Dodger73> when you mouse over the storage media applet
[07:56] <kevman> I enabled Universe, multiverse and backports. But mplayer and libxine-extracodecs don't seem to exist in any of them. Where are they?
[07:56] <Dodger73> a little triangle should appear
[07:56] <Dodger73> if you click on that triangle, a menu should open
[07:56] <Dodger73> one of the entries should be 'configure storage media'
[07:56] <claudiu> Dodger73: yep, i have that
[07:56] <Dr_willis> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[07:57] <Dodger73> click on 'configure storage media'
[07:57] <kevman> Is it not in Edgy?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> kevman,  you did update the repos lists?
[07:57] <Dodger73> and scroll through the list
[07:57] <kevman> sudo apt-get update
[07:57] <Dr_willis> It says its in edgy...
[07:57] <kevman> Right? Yeah
[07:57] <kdefrysk> kevman, check spelling of package ;)
[07:57] <londo4> angyv---. this the autput: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32783/
[07:57] <Dodger73> and check 'mounted hard disk volume' and 'unmounted hard disk volume'
[07:57] <kevman> Nope. Its not in multiverse.
[07:57] <Dodger73> then hit OK, and see if they show up :)
[07:57] <claudiu> Dodger73: ok i'm trying that right now
[07:58] <kdefrysk> kevman pastebin your sources.list
[07:58] <Dr_willis> libxine-extracodecs is already the newest version.
[07:58] <Dr_willis> aparently it is. :)
[07:59] <kevman> Wait, where is multiverse? Is it somewhere besides  edgy-backports
[07:59] <kevman> ?
[07:59] <Dodger73> i just tried and kicker hung
[07:59] <intelikey> !repos
[07:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:59] <kdefrysk> add multiverse behine any universe line kevman
[07:59] <kdefrysk> behind*
[07:59] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[07:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:00] <Dr_willis> i cheat and use that. :)
[08:00] <kdefrysk> or that
[08:00] <nagyv> londo4: from where did you get your sources.list file?
[08:00] <kevman> pastebinninb
[08:00] <kevman> source-o-matic doesn't have edgy.
[08:00] <londo4> angyv, this source.list is already in my computer
[08:01] <kdefrysk> londo4, its sources.list
[08:01] <kevman> ok, pastebin is slooow
[08:01] <kdefrysk> if you have a source.list it wont work
[08:01] <kevman> http://pastebin.com/828253
[08:01] <intelikey> i just make sure my /etc/apt/sources.list   has    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu <releasename> main restricted universe multiverse   in it.
[08:02] <kdefrysk> kevman, line 18 and 19 need multiverse added
[08:02] <kevman> ok
[08:02] <intelikey> althought i am moving towards doing away with restricted altogather.
[08:02] <londo4> angyv I just installed kubuntu on my system and I don`t know how to work with sources.list file, I`m newb on linux
[08:02] <klaus77> Dodger73: sorry to bother , do you know why harddrive partitions do not show in storagemedia applet ?
[08:02] <nagyv> londo4: sorry, I have no idea what could be your problem, for me it installed with these repositories without any problems
[08:02] <kdefrysk> kevman and also 33 and 34 need multiverse added
[08:03] <klaus77> Dodger73: they show up when mounted
[08:03] <kevman> okok
[08:03] <londo4> angyv, ---; Ok, do you know what?
[08:03] <kdefrysk> kevman, then save and update and try again
[08:03] <nagyv> londo4: try the following: go to skype's site
[08:03] <kevman> Praise God!
[08:03] <kevman> mplayer, finally
[08:03] <kdefrysk> kevman, praise me !!
[08:04] <kdefrysk> ;p
[08:04] <londo4> you are very good teacher man
[08:04] <kevman> Now I have journey to the centre of the earth going through my head
[08:04] <kevman> happiness would be kubuntu + portage.
[08:05] <TonySt> Dr_willis, I think I've found my driver - hidden deep in the /etc/ folder from my previous install.  Looks like I just execute a .sys - How would I go about doing this?
[08:05] <nagyv> and download the linux install file from here http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/
[08:05] <kdefrysk> kevman, learn to work with apt-get source
[08:05] <klaus77> Dodger73: i just changed my nick, you talked to me 2 minutes ago
[08:05] <kdefrysk> and you can compile your heart out
[08:05] <Dodger73> ah
[08:05] <nagyv> londo4: the one for the debian packages
[08:05] <Dodger73> klaus77: so, unmounted ones don't show up?
[08:05] <londo4> ok
[08:06] <klaus77> Dodger73: yes, thats right.
[08:06] <kevman> Yeah. I just like portage better. But not that I want to start a flamewar, trying to get Gentoo to work everything in my laptop is why I'm trying kubuntu
[08:06] <kevman> Which is doing just fine. My friggin
[08:06] <kevman> volume buttons work
[08:06] <Dodger73> i'm not sure... my thinking is the only way it can *know* that a harddisk partition is present but unmounted is by checking fstab
[08:06] <kdefrysk> gentoo is a timewaster and a pita to install
[08:06] <klaus77> Dodger73: i configured the applet to show everything. it shows my root, boot and home
[08:07] <trappist> kdefrysk: no distro bashing please
[08:07] <Dodger73> but i'm a relative newbie myself, so don't quote me on that ;)
[08:07] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  yovue missed the point that i dont use wireless any more... :)
[08:07] <klaus77> Dodger73: but not the partitions on the other harddrive
[08:07] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  check the wiki/forums -
[08:07] <trappist> Dodger73: you could check /proc/partitions
[08:08] <TonySt> Dr_willis, i'm not asking how to work a wireless card, just how to execute a .sys file :-P
[08:08] <kevman> Gentoo has been an amazing OS for my desktop. But I'd have to write ACPI scripts, hand-map the volume keys, blah blah, to get it just right on my laptop
[08:08] <londo4> angyv--- I can open or save no problem?
[08:08] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  thats easy,, you DONT...
[08:08] <TonySt> Dr_willis, and I have checked the forums, and i'm coming to the same point you did :-/
[08:08] <Dr_willis> TonySt,  sounds like some windows related binary file that may need to get loaded by ndiswrappers or somthing.
[08:08] <nagyv> londo4: save it to the Desktop
[08:08] <Dodger73> trappist: nice, i didn't know that
[08:08] <kevman> And kubuntu still has xmms. Gentoo is dropping it.
[08:09] <easytiger> xmms sucks
[08:09] <kdefrysk> no
[08:09] <klaus77> Dodger73: i think this is a bug in kde3.5.5, thanks man
[08:10] <kdefrysk> xmms is the mother of linux mp3 players
[08:10] <intelikey> i thought .sys files were media  :)
[08:10] <Dr_willis> great-great-grandmother
[08:10] <hyper_ch> in the start menu, how can I see what command each entry triggers?
[08:10] <kdefrysk> yes
[08:10] <Dr_willis> hyper_ch,  i add them to the panel, then check their properties
[08:10] <easytiger> pah. amarok is the one true music player
[08:10] <hyper_ch> sorry, wrong channel :)
[08:10] <kevman> Hum... amarok doesn't support many formats. No psf.
[08:10] <hyper_ch> Dr_willis: need it for xfce :)
[08:10] <trappist> hyper_ch: right-click, put into run dialog
[08:10] <klaus77> does anyone know how to regenerate your fstab ?
[08:10] <kdefrysk> mount -a
[08:10] <easytiger> kevman: supports whatever xine supports.
[08:11] <kdefrysk> sudo mount -a
[08:11] <Dr_willis> xfce annoyed me in that i couldent just drag icons from the menu to the panels.
[08:11] <kevman> Exactly.
[08:11] <trappist> kdefrysk: that doesn't generae anything
[08:11] <londo4> angyv is Ok
[08:11] <easytiger> and whats teh issue with that?
[08:11] <londo4> is alread in my desktop
[08:11] <kdefrysk> or did he not mean restart ?
[08:11] <nagyv> londo4: then run in the konsole sudo apt-get install ~/Desktop/the_filename_of_the_downloaded_skype.deb
[08:12] <easytiger> why the hell would anyone want to play psf anyway
[08:13] <intelikey> "<klaus77> does anyone know how to regenerate your fstab ?"   i'd do something like   mount > newfstab ;cat /proc/partitions >> newfstab && "your,favorite,editor" newfstab    when finsed editing id save it as fstab
[08:13] <easytiger> well thats just kinda sad
[08:14] <kevman> apt doesn't have a lot of software I use, too
[08:15] <kdefrysk> kevman, like ?
[08:15] <unkn0wn> hi
[08:15] <klaus77> intelikey: thanks , i'll examine that
[08:15] <kevman> Whoops, found that.
[08:15] <unkn0wn> i have a problem with wine installation....
[08:15] <kevman> But its missing Audacious
[08:15] <Dr_willis> You mean the Kubuntu/ubuntu repositories :)
[08:15] <unkn0wn> anyone can help me ?
[08:15] <kevman> Yeah
[08:15] <intelikey> klaus77 man fstab
[08:15] <Dr_willis> unkn0wn,  and the problem, is?
[08:15] <unkn0wn> i install using shell
[08:15] <unkn0wn> apply apt's
[08:15] <unkn0wn> and run
[08:15] <trappist> !enter
[08:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:15] <intelikey> klaus77 some file system need and/or accept special options.
[08:15] <unkn0wn> apt-get wine
[08:16] <unkn0wn> w8 w8
[08:16] <unkn0wn> sry
[08:16] <unkn0wn> apt-get update
[08:16] <Kyral> Audacious
[08:16] <unkn0wn> it works fine
[08:16] <trappist> unkn0wn: you're allowed to put *several* words on a line
[08:16] <Dr_willis> its... 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[08:16] <Kyral> you mean the fork from Beep Media Player?
[08:16] <kevman> Yeah
[08:16] <klaus77> intelikey: I know how to edit fstab. Nevertheless I think that kubuntu has more advanced ways to do things like making partitions and removable drives available to users
[08:16] <Kyral> Might still be called Beep Media Player
[08:17] <kdefrysk> audacious : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202430
[08:17] <Kyral> but I use Arch nowadays :D
[08:17] <Kyral> (And AmaroK :P)
[08:17] <unkn0wn> the error is : E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:17] <londo4> angyv---; autput: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32788/
[08:17] <kdefrysk> !info wine
[08:17] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[08:17] <klaus77> intelikey: I have upgraded from breezy to dapper to edgy and I suspect I miss some default new and cool settings
[08:17] <kevman> I like xmms. Xmms ownz, until it crashes
[08:18] <Kyral> trappist: Just grab the code that does it in almost EVERY Installer :P
[08:18] <Dr_willis> I was unable to get xmms2 working last night.
[08:18] <kdefrysk> amarok and/or beep-media-player
[08:18] <Kyral> mpg321 :P
[08:18] <trappist> Kyral: I mean one that just adds stuff that's missing from an existing fstab
[08:18] <kdefrysk> Kyral, cli-noise
[08:18] <unkn0wn> anyone...
[08:18] <unkn0wn> i cant install it...
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> moc (executable is mocp) is a fine mp3 player
[08:18] <Bubba_Gump> amarok seems to be the best i've tried so far :)
[08:18] <unkn0wn> always the same E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[08:18] <intelikey> klaus77 blkid's
[08:18] <Dr_willis> !info wine
[08:18] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[08:19] <trappist> unkn0wn: you have to enable the universe repository
[08:19] <intelikey> edgy is defaulting to using blkid rather than device addressing.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> unkn0wn,  you may need to set up the repositories to include universe.
[08:19] <unkn0wn> and how do i do that...
[08:19] <Bubba_Gump> what's the most comprehensive lyric script for amaroK?
[08:19] <kdefrysk> !repos
[08:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:19] <trappist> !universe | unkn0wn
[08:19] <ubotu> unkn0wn: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:19] <unkn0wn> tnx...
[08:19] <unkn0wn> i hope i will find my way there :D
[08:19] <klaus77> intelikey: I configured my fstab to have uuids instead of dev, but mounting by using the GDI is a pain
[08:20] <intelikey> klaus77 get someone with a clean install of edgy to pastebin their fstab  so you can get the feel for it.
[08:20] <kevman> Peace out
[08:20] <intelikey> klaus77 k
[08:20] <Bubba_Gump> GDI..? i always preferred the Brotherhood of NOD
[08:20] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[08:21] <mefisto_> I'm trying to get TV out to work on my ATI video card. I normally use the default ati driver, but it displays garbage on my TV. I tried installing the fglrx driver with synaptic and the TV out is working fine, but my primary monitor's colours are all out, way too bright and washed out, and I can't adjust colours to get to anything close to the previous driver's look. Any suggestions?
[08:21] <klaus77> Bubba_Gump: GDI is better :)
[08:22] <kdefrysk> klaus77, my fstab (from a clean install) http://pastebin.com/828266
[08:22] <Bubba_Gump> heh :)
[08:22] <intelikey> !ati
[08:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:24] <klaus77> kdefrysk: thanks a lot!!
[08:24] <intelikey> mefisto_ there is a gama setting in kde
[08:24] <intelikey> !gamma
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gamma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <intelikey> !gama
[08:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gama - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:24] <mefisto_> intelikey: yes I've tried that, but turning it down as dark as possible is still way too bright
[08:25] <intelikey> no infonode on it but i have seen posts about it.
[08:26] <intelikey> yeah this monitor runs at bright = 0 contrast = 50 most of the time....
[08:29] <londo4> I can`t get sound on my kubuntu 6.06, any one knows what to do?
[08:29] <intelikey> !sound
[08:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:31] <intelikey> is a /boot/map file important to lilo ?
[08:31] <intelikey> i know it makes a new one when you run it... but couldn't i just rm them  or will that affect the boot process ?
[08:32] <|nightrid3r|> intelikey: if you rm the map it will fux0r your boot
[08:32] <intelikey> like this ?  tty24 [root@~]  rm -R /boot
[08:32] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~] 
[08:32] <intelikey> ?
[08:33] <intelikey> lets see if it boots properly or not.   brb.
[08:33] <|nightrid3r|> intelikey: guess where your kernel goes
[08:33] <intelikey> |nightrid3r| not in /boot  :)
[08:36] <josh_> how do i log into the gui as root?
[08:36] <intelikey> and the answer is "it boots fine without a map file."
[08:36] <Dr_willis> josh_,  better question - why do you need to.
[08:36] <josh_> thats the one thing i haven't managed to figure out yet... :(
[08:36] <Dr_willis> josh_,  direct logging in as root with kdm is disabled.
[08:36] <Dr_willis> of coruse direct logging in as root is disabled also.
[08:36] <josh_> yeah... i want to know where to enable it at
[08:36] <dragonfly7> Does anyone know how to force firfox and gaim to use system fonts in their menus, etc?
[08:37] <Dr_willis> the kdm config file josh_
[08:37] <|nightrid3r|> intelikey: sorry translation problem (map is dutch for folder) :)
[08:37] <josh_> thats what i thought but it didn't work...
[08:37] <Dr_willis> josh_,  restart the kdm service after edting that file
[08:37] <intelikey> josh_ you'd have to either edit the kdm settings or use another gui login tool  you could   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop  ; sudo -i startx
[08:39] <josh_> the comp has been retarted several times since i had changed the config file
[08:40] <intelikey> |nightrid3r| ah   english dir == map dutch
[08:40] <intelikey> got it.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> i would guess ya missed somthing else in the config then.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> or just boot to the console and startx as root. :)
[08:42] <josh_> yeah i think i did miss something
[08:42] <josh_> hmm..
[08:42] <Dr_willis> !info mtop
[08:42] <ubotu> mtop: MySQL terminal based query monitor. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.6-1 (edgy), package size 49 kB, installed size 224 kB
[08:43] <Dr_willis> !info htop
[08:43] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-1 (edgy), package size 42 kB, installed size 172 kB
[08:43] <Dr_willis> aha!
[08:43] <Dr_willis> that explaines  somthing.. :) i was installing the wrong package
[08:44] <intelikey> josh_ /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc    AllowRootLogin=false
[08:44] <gianni0131> ciao
[08:44] <Dr_willis> also the kdm stuff i think has the default users below 1000 hidden.
[08:45] <Dr_willis> so you can enter root/user, but you will see no icons for them (if you got icons enabled)
[08:45] <intelikey> i also like changing    AllowNullPasswd=false
[08:45] <intelikey> it's all adjustable in that file.
[08:45] <josh_> that is already set to true
[08:46] <gianni0131> hi! k3b say me that he doesnt support mp3, when I try to create an audio cd
[08:46] <josh_> i changed it in my gdm.conf also
[08:46] <josh_> lets see what happens
[08:46] <josh_> brb
[08:47] <josh_> i hope
[08:47] <josh_> lol
[08:47] <Dr_willis> why bother...
[08:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:48] <Dr_willis> gianni0131,  that is covered on the KUBUNTU faq page. :)
[08:48] <Dr_willis> it tells the exact package to install to enable k3b to burn mp3's
 output:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32795/
[08:48] <intelikey> josh_ there is a kdm.config there too.....    oh already gone.
[08:48] <Dr_willis> and some other mp3 related packages for other programs as well
[08:49] <Dr_willis> !find syngery
[08:49] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[08:49] <ubotu> Package/file syngery does not exist in edgy
[08:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:49] <Dr_willis> I never can spwll that right
[08:49] <Dr_willis> !find synegery
[08:49] <ubotu> Package/file synegery does not exist in edgy
[08:49] <Dr_willis> !find synegry
[08:49] <ubotu> Package/file synegry does not exist in edgy
[08:50] <Dr_willis> !find syn
[08:50] <ubotu> Found: kdebluetooth-irmcsync, kitchensync, ksync, libfile-rsyncp-perl, libpisync0 (and 90 others)
[08:51] <intelikey> !synergy
[08:51] <ubotu> synergy: Share mouse, keyboard and clipboard over the network. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.1-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1460 kB
[08:51] <Dr_willis> Bah! that cant be right! :P
[08:51] <Dr_willis> SY-Nergy!
[08:52] <Dr_willis> i ssh -X'd to a box and ran that.. and had it all confused. :)
[08:52] <milaks> Hi, where should I post question about some glithes with gtk-qt engine,that is GTK apps look in KDE?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> my mouse pointer kept jumping around on the initial screen. hehe
[08:54] <brundy> hello
[08:55] <brundy> nouveau en linux, je peux avoir de l'aide ?
[08:56] <Dr_willis> !fr
[08:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:56] <josh_> it was the gdm.conf file that was stopping me
[08:56] <milaks> Hi, where should I post question about some glithes with gtk-qt engine,that is GTK apps look in KDE?
[08:56] <brundy> merci, thanks
[08:56] <brundy> #kubuntu-fr
[09:00] <etetz> hallo???
[09:01] <etetz> gibt es eine mglichkeit wenn bei linux was gelscht wurde den Urzustand wiederherzustellen, bin erst seit gestern dabei
[09:02] <unkn0wn> does anyone know a good erm... tutorial for c programming for me :P ?
[09:03] <unkn0wn> all probably laughing...
[09:03] <unkn0wn> :P
[09:03] <|lostbyte|> unkn0wn, Did you try searching google ?
[09:04] <EightEleven> Hi Unknown, what about finding a nice project on sf.net and trying to contribute?
[09:04] <unkn0wn> and i googled it :D
[09:04] <unkn0wn> got GCC
[09:04] <unkn0wn> ...
[09:05] <EightEleven> Gcc is a good start. :)
[09:05] <unkn0wn> i can use Kate for writting, right ?
[09:05] <unkn0wn> or i need better editor... ?
[09:05] <EightEleven> Kate should be sufficient.
[09:05] <EightEleven> I usually prefer Kwrite
[09:06] <EightEleven> It has syntax highlighting.
[09:06] <unkn0wn> ok tnx :D
[09:06] <unkn0wn> C is the basic
[09:06] <unkn0wn> ?
[09:06] <unkn0wn> i've noticed there is ... a lot of it in PHP :P
[09:07] <EightEleven> C is used pretty often.
[09:07] <Bubba_Gump> i use C
[09:08] <Bubba_Gump> very relaxing
[09:08] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[09:09] <Bubba_Gump> good in a pipe, too
[09:10] <Dr_willis> comal owns. :)
[09:11] <EightEleven> unkn0wn: Did you program in other languages before?
[09:11] <intelikey> hey.  what's your openion on "lite-on" brand cd/dvd drives ?
[09:11] <purpleposeidon> Can you get xmountains to work with kdesktop??
[09:11] <intelikey> any somebody ?
[09:12] <purpleposeidon> anybody?
[09:12] <intelikey> if you have an openion yes.
[09:13] <Dr_willis> Ive had very very very good luck with Lite-on brans
[09:13] <intelikey> oh purpleposeidon idk about that Q  sorry.
[09:13] <intelikey> Dr_willis k ty for the input.
[09:13] <azzco> How do I find specific channels for different languages?
[09:13] <Dr_willis> some times you can catch 'other' brands on sale/cheaper. that are just rebranded lite-ons
[09:14] <Dr_willis> But heck - the cost of optical drives are amazing cheap these days
[09:14] <Dr_willis> now if the cost of dual-layer media would drop...
[09:14] <phoneseeker> hello, I would like to install kubuntu on a relatively old PC (already with windows XP, and about 20 Gigs)... Is it ok, or kubuntu is a bad choice?
[09:15] <azzco> phoneseeker: Shouldn't be a to bad choice if you plan to remove windows.
[09:15] <azzco> But dual booting might not be a good idea
[09:15] <phoneseeker> yes, I will reformat the whole HD
[09:15] <Dr_willis> It should work find.. the HD space may get a little tight. depending in what you are doing.
[09:15] <Dr_willis> what processor/ram you got?
[09:15] <phoneseeker> I'm concerned that KDE will be a bit slow
[09:16] <Dr_willis> compared to XP... i doubt if you will find it slow. :)
[09:16] <Dr_willis> you can always install other window managers later if you want.
[09:16] <phoneseeker> I don't know, the owner is very computer illiterate, and the computer is completely paralysed with viruses
[09:16] <Parkotron> azzco: What language are you lookinmg for?
[09:16] <azzco> Parkotron: Swedish got a Keyboard input related question.
[09:17] <Parkotron> azzco: What' the country code?
[09:17] <azzco> phoneseeker: You'll probably find kubuntu very satisfying.
[09:17] <Dr_willis> its best to ask what the user will be doing with the machine....
[09:17] <azzco> Parkotron: se
[09:17] <Parkotron> !se
[09:17] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[09:17] <Dr_willis> basic web surfing/email/so on..  or is he into somthing more specific.
[09:17] <azzco> THX Parkotron
[09:17] <kevman> You know that config wizard that's supposed to run everytime a new user starts KDE that sets mouse behaivor, etc? Is there any way to run that manually?
[09:17] <phoneseeker> I know already, internet, text writing, and some image editing
[09:18] <phoneseeker> very basic
[09:18] <phoneseeker> and also music
[09:18] <Dr_willis> music in what way. :)
[09:18] <azzco> phoneseeker: Should be very easy to get it running fine with kubuntu but music might be a problem
[09:18] <phoneseeker> I need to find a replacement for kazaa or whatever
[09:18] <Dr_willis> and what sort of image editing..
[09:18] <Dr_willis> kazaa is just a p2p program.. 1000's of alternatives out for that.
[09:18] <Parkotron> kevman: Good question. I don't know. You can set all those settibgs manually, I know.
[09:19] <kevman> That's a pain.
[09:19] <phoneseeker> just putting pictures into a page, with decoration (for birthday cards, etc)
[09:19] <phoneseeker> I think openoffice will take care of that, if it runs smoothly, otherwise koffice
[09:19] <Dr_willis> phoneseeker,  ive not noticed any 'greeting card' type programs out for linux.  but wine may be able to run his windows pograms that do that.
[09:19] <Dr_willis> I perfer abiword for my lite word processing needs. :)
[09:20] <phoneseeker> I looked at the greeting card application, and it looks rather difficult to handle, I think I prefer to teach the user opeoffice or something like that
[09:20] <phoneseeker> if abiword works, so much the better, but for greeting cards, I don't know if it's enought
[09:20] <kevman> Where is the setting to get rid of this "single click to open stuff" crap?
[09:21] <phoneseeker> anyway, thanks for your input, I'll go ahead with kubuntu then
[09:22] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[09:22] <Dr_willis> kevman,   its in the settings somewhere.. under mouse i think
[09:22] <azzco> kevman: system settings -->mouse & keyboard
[09:22] <azzco> Should be easy to find ;)
[09:23] <Onofrio> by all see later..
[09:23] <kevman> I'm blind, I guess.
[09:24] <azzco> kevman: wich kubuntu are you suing? the layout in system settings is changed in edgy
[09:24] <Dr_willis> I always add that Panel applet - to get to the control-center settings easier.
[09:24] <Bubba_Gump> kcontrol :)
[09:24] <Dr_willis> applet(settings) -> perferprials -> mouse
[09:25] <Dr_willis> I feel that thing should be on the panel by default. :)
[09:25] <kevman> Edgy, but I found it
[09:26] <Dr_willis> I perfer 'control center' to 'system settings' :)
[09:31] <SperMite> anyone using xmms2??
[09:32] <Dr_willis> i couldent get it to work last night SperMite
[09:33] <Dr_willis> the  debs i found may be for dapper at this time.. not edgy.. they isntalled.. and seemed to work.. but dident work
[09:34] <SperMite> I can't get it to work either, when I try to run it doesn't do anything, and when I try to do it in console says  ERROR: Could not create default configfile!!
[09:34] <Dr_willis> what are you running
[09:34] <SperMite> dapper
[09:34] <Dr_willis> xmms            xmms2           xmms2d          xmms2-launcher
[09:35] <Dr_willis> it seems that one program runs some sort of xmms2 server in the background. and the others controll it..
[09:35] <esroba> slm
[09:35] <Bubba_Gump> !dht
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dht - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:35] <esroba> kims varm0131
[09:35] <Bubba_Gump> does DHT work within KTorrent ?
[09:35] <Dr_willis> Bubba_Gump,  i think it does.
[09:36] <Bubba_Gump> any preferences for ports?
[09:36] <SperMite> hmm well my xmms runs fine, i just installed xmm2 but who knows then
[09:36] <Dr_willis> my DHT is showing '4 nodes' found on ktorrent
[09:36] <Bubba_Gump> 124 nodes, 0 tasks
[09:37] <Dr_willis>  showing '4 nodes, 0 tasks '  whatever that means. :)
[09:37] <Dr_willis> Ive heard to turn off DHT for private trackers.
[09:37] <Dr_willis> but not sure what the deal is with it.
[09:37] <Bubba_Gump> hey ho!
[09:38] <Alter-Ego> what is dht
[09:38] <Dr_willis> some sort of way to find other seeds i think
[09:38] <SperMite> anybody have a demonoid account?
[09:38] <Bubba_Gump> also, it's a tryptamine :)
[09:39] <Alter-Ego> anybody use bluefish here ?
[09:39] <Bubba_Gump> not disimilar to DMT
[09:39] <Dr_willis> ktorrent has a mouseover/tip on the DHT setting.. but it flashes on/off so fast i cant read it.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:39] <ypsila> good bye
[09:40] <ypsila> and don't forget: #kubuntu-de
[09:40] <Dr_willis> 'decemtralzed peer exchange'
[09:41] <|lostbyte|> when i tpe glxgear i get "libgl warning 3d driver clames to not support visual 0x4b" ??/
[09:44] <SperMite> |lostbyte| what does glxinfo say?
[09:45] <HooF> 
[09:45] <|lostbyte|> SperMite, directrendering yes,,
[09:46] <SperMite> |lostbyte| what kinda card you have?
[09:47] <klove> hello
[09:47] <klove> any1 here?
[09:47] <HooF> 
[09:48] <klove> i need help
[09:48] <klove> lol
[09:48] <SperMite> with what?
[09:48] <klove> adept manager wont run
[09:48] <klove> klove@klove-desktop:~$ su
[09:48] <klove> Password:
[09:48] <klove> root@klove-desktop:/home/klove# xorgsetup
[09:48] <klove> bash: xorgsetup: command not found
[09:48] <klove> root@klove-desktop:/home/klove#
[09:48] <klove> oops
[09:48] <klove> says it's already running
[09:48] <HooF> 
[09:48] <klove> so loads in safe mode
[09:48] <matsn> =)
[09:50] <klove> any1 has any suggestions?
[09:50] <|lostbyte|> sparrw, intel 82852/855gm
[09:50] <klove> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[09:50] <SperMite> 3.01 gigs down, 7 more gigs to go on azureus = /
[09:50] <lo2> hey there
[09:50] <|lostbyte|> SperMite, ^^^
[09:51] <klove> any1 know how to fix that?
[09:52] <zorglu_> Please close the other application before using this one. <- seems a good suggestion :)
[09:52] <XVampireX> klove: safe mode, that's so Windows
[09:52] <SperMite> |lostbyte| Do you have any errors in your Xorg.0.log?
[09:52] <stodge> Does anyone know of an app that connects to AOL's AIM and supports a webcam?
[09:53] <klove> i didn't do it kubuntu did
[09:53] <klove> says it's in safe mode
[09:53] <superkirbyartist> A 10 seconds survey for Ebuntu's new name: http://ebuntu.sos-sts.com/poll/
[09:53] <klove> well read only mode
[09:53] <SperMite> |lostbyte| and do you have the correct drivers/modules installed, im not to sure about the intel cards ,=/
[09:54] <klove> i don't have anything started
[09:54] <matsn> intel + linux is hell..
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> i have i180 driver installed
[09:54] <klove> even tried to reboot
[09:54] <klove> still has that error  when i open adept
[09:54] <SperMite> |lostbyte| have you done any recent updates or upgrades?
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> SperMite, Fresh Edgy Install.
[09:56] <zorglu_> !adept-crash-fix| klove
[09:56] <ubotu> klove: If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:57] <zorglu_> try that
[09:57] <stodge> Damn    `aim_1.5.286-1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[09:57] <zorglu_> !info aim
[09:57] <ubotu> Package aim does not exist in any distro I know
[09:57] <zorglu_> ok :)
[09:57] <maverick> !gaim
[09:57] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:58] <zorglu_> well not the same program, but close name tho :)
[09:58] <SpySpooKy> hi, how can I install a bin file in Ubuntu?
[09:58] <SperMite> |lostbyte| hangon still googling
[09:59] <SpySpooKy> i have downloaded "jdk-1_5_0_09-nb-5_5-linux.bin" from java.sun.com
[10:00] <stodge> gaim doesn't work with my webcam,
[10:00] <SpySpooKy> after that i set executive permissions "sudo chmod -x jdk*"
[10:00] <SpySpooKy> but i can't install ist with "sudo sh jdk*"
[10:00] <SpySpooKy> *it
[10:02] <SpySpooKy> error msg:"The launcher "/home/mo/jdk-1_5_0_09-nb-5_5-linux.bin" is not executable for the current user.  Please give execute permission for the current user before attempting to launch the installer."
[10:03] <SpySpooKy> what should i do?
[10:04] <cntb> \o seamonkey is not on sudo apt-get install?
[10:04] <james> i have a cups question anyone game?
[10:04] <cntb> !seamonkey
[10:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seamonkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:04] <james> i am running edgy where is the file /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf do i need to create it?
[10:05] <SperMite> |lostbyte| did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:05] <dogofwar> I have wine a question about wine, I installed steam and half-life just fine, but I get no sound
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> SperMite, Doing..
[10:06] <james> cups question anyone available?
[10:06] <dogofwar> I have wine a question about wine, I installed steam and half-life just fine, but I get no sound
[10:08] <soulrider> dogofwar:  did you search in the wine app database ?
[10:09] <SperMite> |lostbyte| I've read alot complaints about people upgrading to edgy and video drivers failing with the MGA drivers but haven't seen anything with  i180 driver
[10:09] <dogofwar> Yes, but I dont see anything about sound issues, evrything else works great
[10:10] <soulrider> uhm
[10:10] <soulrider> i say do this
[10:10] <soulrider> close all programs that are using sound and try again
[10:10] <soulrider> maybe restarting alsa might work
[10:10] <soulrider> but i really dont know
[10:11] <dogofwar> which audio driver should I use?
[10:11] <soulrider> alsa i guess
[10:11] <soulrider> i only got my on board sound card, so im not the best person to ask :P
[10:11] <dogofwar> kk I'll try that
[10:11] <dogofwar> same here
[10:11] <dogofwar> on a laptop
[10:12] <cntb> \o how to add help pages to kde? default is very poor !! unix  man pages only !! I wanted recently to ask help pages in kde for samba for example
[10:12] <cntb> anyone about help in kde issues ?
[10:17] <Alter-Ego> .
[10:17] <fyrmedic> nothing going on in here?\
[10:18] <heinkel_111> can someone help me with failing dualscreen?
[10:18] <heinkel_111> i get dual screen during boot, login, but when the desktop is about to fire up, it switches to singel screen mode
[10:19] <heinkel_111> i think this is related to something wrong in my system settings panel
[10:19] <heinkel_111> i cannot save after i have done changes there
[10:19] <heinkel_111> which files are affected?
[10:19] <fyrmedic> I tried dual screen but couldn't figure it out. It was a disaster....Wish I could help
[10:19] <heinkel_111> no, mine worked fine for several months
[10:20] <heinkel_111> i jsut crashed my system badly earlier today
[10:20] <heinkel_111> and lost a lot of configurations
[10:20] <fyrmedic> are you using dual video cards or a dual output video card
[10:20] <khirr> what's the command to copy a file?
[10:20] <fdoving> khirr: cp.
[10:20] <fyrmedic> cp
[10:20] <heinkel_111> dual output  single card
[10:20] <khirr> cp what what?
[10:20] <fyrmedic> cp filename location
[10:20] <fyrmedic> i think
[10:20] <khirr> ?
[10:21] <fyrmedic> heinkel_111: thats what I tried to use but it didn't work so well for me
[10:21] <Vi> How can I install a sound card driver to kubuntu 6.06 lts
[10:21] <heinkel_111> well, i have had no problem so gar
[10:21] <heinkel_111> far
[10:23] <heinkel_111> i believe the problem is with my system settings > monitor panel
[10:24] <heinkel_111> i cannot make changes to the settings, or rather: i cannot save changes to the settings there
[10:24] <Vi> I have a problem with sound driver on kubuntu 6.06, who can help me?
[10:25] <tchize> Nooooo!
[10:26] <tchize> ok, question, after an install of edgy eft, i select the kernel in grub and i get a "Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition" what can i do? :'(
[10:30] <see-g_> so ... wenn konversation jetzt noch meinem Gefallen entspricht ist der Umstieg von Win auf Linux erstmals komplett gelungen :)
[10:30] <fdoving> !de
[10:30] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:30] <see-g_> oh, sorry ;) I just said that if I find to like konversation, me moving from Win to Linux has been completed for the first time...
[10:35] <Vi> Help, who can help me! I have to install the sound driver on my kubuntu 6.06 lts
[10:36] <Vi> How can I install the sound driver?
[10:36] <tchize> i just installed edgy on my computer. At boot time all i get a the blue logo (kubuntu) for about 5 seconds then i get black screen with a blinking cursor. What should i do now??
[10:37] <scott__> hi
[10:39] <juanz> hello
[10:39] <juanz> they know some alternative to amsn?
[10:39] <LjL> kopete
[10:40] <juanz>   I need it for cibercafe
[10:40] <Vi> Please Help,
[10:40] <Vi> Help
[10:40] <LjL> i've installed the new unsupported nvidia drivers. now KDM is in the right resolution, but when i log in as my user, it switches to 60Hz. using another user doesn't trigger this (the resolution stays the same as in KDM). where could the settings that determine this be stored?
[10:41] <tchize> ok, the good new is that i can finally boot
[10:41] <Vi> sound card installation, I don`t have sound driver installed in kubuntu 6.06 lts
[10:41] <tchize> the bad news is that i have to wait 10 minutes for the booting process to proceed :s
[10:41] <Vi> How can install sound card driver ?
[10:41] <LjL> !sound | Vi
[10:41] <ubotu> Vi: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:43] <eliphas> hai cyber gods
[10:44] <cntb> samba installed ! now howto share printer to windows?
[10:45] <cntb> tchize: how much memory on thta slow booting PC?
[10:45] <eliphas> install network printers man
[10:45] <tchize> 1G
[10:45] <eliphas> but first config the samba or you wont dance
[10:45] <cntb> what eliphas ? to me?
[10:45] <tchize> cntb: it's just like if cpu went out for a cigaret pause before bootinh
[10:46] <cntb> ha you smokin tchize?
[10:46] <tchize> no
[10:46] <tchize> so i assume cpu went for a coffee pause then?
[10:46] <cntb> so..? tchize how much RAM ? memory
[10:47] <tchize> anyway, it just wait 5 or 10 minutes on a blank screen before starting it's boot process
[10:47] <tchize> 1 G ram
[10:47] <cntb> ah
[10:47] <tchize> dapper was booting in 10 seconds
[10:47] <cntb> there's gotta be some electrical problem maybe ?
[10:48] <tchize> cntb: nope it's just the change of kernel that does it
[10:48] <cntb> did you recently open thwe box?
[10:48] <tchize> if i swap back to dapper kernel it's working fine
[10:48] <cntb> try dusting
[10:48] <khubss1> hi tchize, first of all let me say how do y. do
[10:48] <cntb> you swapped? have dual boot to dapper ? positive?
[10:49] <tchize> cntb: nope i have attemped a dapper -> edgy upgrade, but because edgy wasn't able to boot (at tha time the dapper kernel was still available) i followed recommandation to remove dapper an do a clean installer of edgy
[10:50] <Xal2> Hi
[10:50] <tchize> so at the time i had the upgrade (with still old dapper kernel around) i was able to boot from dapper kernel , but it was hanging with edgy kernel (not to mention i did not think i should wait 10 minutes before rebooting)
[10:50] <Xal2> Is there a way to relocate the setup files on a kubuntu live CD?
[10:50] <khubss1> can some one help me TerraCAM USB Pro with ubuntu,please
[10:50] <Xal2> Instead of having all the files in the root of the CD, I'd like to have them in /kubuntu.
[10:51] <tchize> now i have removed dapper, have still problem with edgy but i discovered after 10 minutes, the boot process started, i just had to wait for edgy to "do something"
[10:52] <vandenoever> is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[10:53] <LjL> vandenoever: apparently
[10:58] <AAA1> Hi all, I'm a complete newbie. Is this the right place to ask Kubuntu questions?
[10:59] <tchize> AAA1 : yes
[11:01] <AAA1> Thank you, I've recently downloaded and installed Automatix, and ever since that time, Adept says the database is locked and I do my best to close all package type software and it still gives me that message
[11:01] <vandenoever> does anyone know why the kubuntu version of libqglviewer is so ancient?
[11:01] <AAA1> any ideas?
[11:02] <fred_> how do I add repositories?
[11:02] <Hawkwind> !repos | fred_
[11:02] <ubotu> fred_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:02] <Hawkwind> !automatix | AAA1
[11:02] <ubotu> AAA1: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[11:03] <AAA1> oh, thank you. How do I uninstall it?
[11:04] <overkill22> hi all
[11:05] <tchize> hi alone :)
[11:10] <SperMite> anyone know where i can get vmware at?
[11:12] <Hawkwind> SperMite: vmware.com is a great place to start
[11:12] <tchize> Spermite: did you try the vmware website? :)
[11:12] <Hawkwind> SperMite: However, vmware-player is available via apt-get install vmware
[11:12] <SperMite> yeah i did look there =) but which one do i download?
[11:13] <tchize> Spermite: the one you paid for i suppose :)
[11:13] <fyrmedic> what is a good command line editor and where are instructions to use it?
[11:13] <Xal2> Is there a way to relocate the setup files on a kubuntu live CD?
[11:13] <tchize> fyrmedic: nano, help is accessbile using ctrl - h
[11:13] <Xal2> Instead of having all the files in the root of the CD, I'd like to have them in /kubuntu.
[11:14] <fyrmedic> tchize: thanks
[11:14] <soulrider> !mp3
[11:14] <overkill22> hi all!
[11:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:15] <overkill22> someone can help me?
[11:15] <nickv111> overkill22: Please, do not ask to ask
[11:15] <overkill22> sorry, i need help for install webcam
[11:21] <tchize> overkill22: is your webcam recognized under linux?
[11:26] <slow-motion> n8
[11:29] <mefisto_> I'm trying to install ati driver following howto @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910 but I get stuck at the "create .deb packages" stage. After doing ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper I get an error: permission denied. I'm doing this as root, so I don't understand what the error is about.
[11:30] <tchize> mefisto_ : readonly file?
[11:30] <tchize> perhaps :)
[11:30] <tchize> goodbye all
[11:31] <phoneseeker> bye all
[11:36] <Kim^J> Name me a good FTP client.
[11:36] <blackflag> kasablanca
[11:38] <overkill22> yes,  linux see my webcam
[11:41] <overkill22> .
[11:42] <Xal2> Is there a way to relocate the setup files on a Kubuntu install disk to /kubuntu rather than having everything in the root of the CD?
[11:43] <Kim^J> Hmm... How do I change my FTP password?
[11:43] <Kim^J> In a FTP client.
[11:43] <Xal2> You can't.
[11:43] <Xal2> That's a serverside thing.
[11:43] <Kim^J> Xal2: Hmm...
[11:44] <Kim^J> Ok...
[11:44] <Xal2> afaik
[11:44] <Xal2> There's always an exception.
[11:44] <Kim^J> Then the users have to email if they would like to have their pass changed.
[11:44] <Xal2> Maybe there is a web interface for FTP accounts.
[11:45] <Kim^J> Hmm
[11:45] <Xal2> I'm sure you can do something like that in CPanel, so there must be a simple FTP interface, too.
[11:47] <zzz_> hi
[12:00] <ButteBlues> can anyone help me get Warcraft 3: ROC to Install/Play over WINE?
[12:04] <doGoFWAR> Having trouvle with sound in Half-Life
[12:04] <doGoFWAR> Anyone wanna help?
[12:08] <bLaZeD> doGoFWAR, u suning wine or cedega?
[12:08] <bLaZeD> *using
[12:10] <bLaZeD> ButteBlues, try #wine or #cedega .....both should be able to help more.
[12:10] <bLaZeD> doGoFWAR, ^^ also might wanna do that
[12:11] <doGoFWAR> I'm using wine
[12:11] <doGoFWAR> Everything but my sound works
[12:11] <visik7> ButteBlues: remember blizzard bans users that use wine or cedega with its software