ButteBluesvisik7: Aye, I heard.12:12
ButteBluesBut as far as I knew it was only WoW.12:12
visik7yes for now12:12
ButteBluesIn either case, I have a legit CD-ROM+key.12:12
visik7also ppl banned from wow had a legit key12:12
ButteBluesand I can live with even the campaigns on single player12:12
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ButteBluesI'm just about dying from RTS withdrawal... Wesnoth is addictive, but it doens't have the same feel RTSs do.12:13
bLaZeDvisik7, they do?12:13
visik7yes they do12:13
visik7they sucks12:13
bLaZeDidsoft is the shiat12:13
doGoFWARBlazd I am using wine12:13
bLaZeDdoGoFWAR, may consider using cedgea12:13
doGoFWARNo money12:14
visik7what idsoft has to do with blizzard ?12:14
bLaZeDvisik7, nothing12:14
visik7why you blame them ?12:14
bLaZeDvisik7, i dont think so.....just saying they are the shit....as in they are good12:14
bLaZeDidsoft is great...they have released parts of their source cod for several games12:15
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bLaZeDdoGoFWAR, ah12:15
ButteBlueswell I'm sure I could get WC3 to play fine12:15
ButteBluesif only I could get past installation :*12:15
ButteBluesThere's a .mpq in the Movies folder12:15
ButteBluesthat refuses to transfer12:15
ButteBluesand results the install dying12:15
ButteBluesI think it might be borked12:16
ButteBluesbecause the other mpqs show up as videos12:16
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ButteBluesbut this one, doesn't have a preview at all12:16
rbrunhuberis the button daemon in feisty missing?12:16
bLaZeDrbrunhuber, feisty.....isnt there a chan to desucuss  that12:17
bLaZeDlike #ubuntu+112:17
bLaZeDor somthing12:17
rbrunhubersorry don't know12:17
rbrunhuberbLaZeD: you are right, thank you for the pointer12:19
gnomefreakbLaZeD: #ubuntu+112:19
bLaZeDrbrunhuber, np man......i just figured no on ein here would know about such new software......maby a selct few...but not alot12:19
Raven301W00t kernel on edgy :)12:21
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visik7Raven301: uh ?12:23
gnomefreakRaven301: not pre-compiled12:24
visik7self compiled ?12:24
shymzhi :)12:24
Raven301visik7: yes12:24
visik7why ?12:24
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Raven301visik7: why not :)12:25
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Raven301visik7: only takes about 45 min.12:25
visik7'couse is useless ?12:25
rbrunhuberbLaZeD: the ubuntu world is just so big....12:26
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bLaZeDrbrunhuber, thats one of its strong points....is huge following12:26
foxhound31how do i find out if i have xgl/compiz please12:27
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:27
gnomefreakfoxhound31: #ubuntu-xgl12:28
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foxhound31ok thanks12:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:29
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khirrone of u can tell me where can i found winamp 3 alpha for linux?12:30
Bubba_Gumpamarok shows track titles to 3 or 4 or 5 seconds, rather than the true length of what they actually are12:31
Bubba_Gumpany way of solving this?12:31
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seanieb64Can anyone help me? when I turned my computer on this morning, Kubuntu couldnt connect to the internet12:33
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seanieb64I checked the settings, Ethernet was off.12:33
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seanieb64I tried to turn it back on, and it said could not read XML output from network configuration backend, or something like that12:34
ubuntu_geia sas12:35
LjL!gr | ubuntu_12:35
ubotuubuntu_: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes12:35
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Ash-FoxHow does one force a specific package to reinstall everything, including a /etc/init.d/script?12:38
LjLAsh-Fox: usually i'd just remove it with --purge and install again12:38
Ash-FoxLjL, thankyou very much =)12:38
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khirrhow can i cancel apt-get?12:40
Ash-Foxctrl + c12:40
LjL*don't* do it unless it's just downloading12:40
fdovingit's always safe to do it.12:41
LjLif you do it while it's installing, khirr, you might end up in trouble12:41
Bubba_Gumpamarok shows song lengths (mp3s) shorter than the track itself, any chance of a fix ?12:41
fdovingapt-get is buildt to be safe.12:41
seanieb64how can I fix this error when trying to start the eth0 inerface: could not read XML output from network configuration backend, or very close to that?12:41
Ash-FoxBubba_Gump, amarok doesn't do that here.12:41
LjLfdoving: perhaps it's supposed to...12:41
Bubba_Gumpheh, well, it does here12:41
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Bubba_Gumpi have, there is a bug recorded12:42
Bubba_Gumpfour months ago12:42
soulrideri got a really important issue12:42
soulridermy friend just insatlled edgy12:42
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soulriderbut nothing that uses kdesu seems to work12:42
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Ash-Foxsoulrider, tried restarting?12:42
soulrideradept wont open for him12:43
soulriderand i told him to do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list in runc ommand and the password window wont pop up12:43
soulriderany ideas?12:43
soulriderhe restarted12:43
Ash-Fox(I've seen that issue when x authentication files get messed during X reconfigurations.. but that happening after a restart.. uhm. No.)12:43
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soulriderwhen he tries to run adept12:45
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soulriderhe sees the thingy bouncing12:45
soulriderbut it never opens12:45
seanieb64the icon by the cursor?12:45
seanieb64Did you have him check the logs?12:46
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soulriderhes newbie12:46
kevmanHow do I change which mixer my laptop volume buttons move?12:46
soulriderif i tell him to check the logs12:46
soulriderhe will kill me :P12:46
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seanieb64Uhm, Why12:46
soulriderhe deosnt geta long with computers so mcuh12:47
soulriderhe asked mea bout linux12:47
sdlnxgkNeed some  help !!!12:47
soulriderbecause his comp was FULL of spyware and viruses12:47
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soulridersdlnxgk: whats up12:47
sdlnxgkcdrom will mount but can't see results12:47
Dr_willisgee.. there needs to be a Public education program to help all these windows users deal with spyware and virusi.12:47
Dr_willis"just say Linux!"12:47
soulrideryea lol12:48
soulrideriw as gonna say that12:48
seanieb64N00bs anonymous.12:48
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sdlnxgkDr_willis  there is it's called Linux :)12:48
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Dr_willisLesson #1 - No you do NOT need to run executables to install 'wallpaper and themes' for your instant messenger program12:48
sdlnxgkhow can I reinstall a cdrom??12:48
soulriderDr_willis:  whats an exceutable? they ask12:49
Dr_willissdlnxgk,  that makes no sence. clarify what you are trying to do.12:49
fyrmedichow do I ls 1 page at a time without scrolling through everything12:49
chxfyrmedic: ls |less12:49
Dr_willislinux 101 :)12:49
soulriderlike dir /p in  DOS? :P12:49
chxwhich MP3 play is recommended under Kubuntu if I used winamp and beep-media-player (xmms derivation) before?12:49
seanieb64sdlnxgk: a CD? or a CD-rom driver?12:49
soulriderive been using this for 5 months, but i consider myself a BIG n00b12:49
seanieb64There are no CD-ROM drive drivers12:49
Dr_willischx,  amarok is very popular12:49
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seanieb64I myself like XMMS.12:50
seanieb64Amarok is nice though12:50
sdlnxgkseanieb54 I did a stupid thing and deleted the cdrom directory12:50
sdlnxgknever  thought it was doing anything12:50
Dr_willissdlnxgk,  you are refering to the /media/cdrom directory?12:50
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seanieb64what did you delete?12:51
sdlnxgkDr_willis refering to /cdrom12:51
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Dr_willishmm do i even have a /cdrom?12:51
seanieb64The CD's shortut on the desktop?12:51
zorba64so remake it12:51
sdlnxgkthe /media/cdrom0 is still  there12:51
seanieb64Pop the disk out and put it back in.12:51
Dr_willisls -l /cdrom12:51
Dr_willislrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2006-10-20 09:24 /cdrom -> media/cdrom12:51
Dr_willis /cdrom is just a softr link to /media/cdrom    remake it.12:51
sdlnxgkI made a shortcut on desktop and it loads but doesn't show contents of the cdrom12:51
seanieb64Take out the CD12:52
seanieb64Delete the shortcut12:52
seanieb64Put the CD back in12:52
sdlnxgkdrwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-06-15 11:06 cdrom012:52
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seanieb64Ubuntu will make you an icon on the desktop.12:52
seanieb64The CD is there.12:52
seanieb64Go to the system menu12:52
seanieb64click home folder, then on the sidebar click click removable media12:53
seanieb64it should be in there.12:53
seanieb64Click in the system menu, Removable media12:53
sdlnxgklooking now12:53
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sdlnxgkI don't see removable media as an option12:54
chxDr_willis: and is there something that gives amaroK a winamp look-and-feel?12:54
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chxDr_willis: or is it time for me to relearn my old habits? :)12:55
sdlnxgkbut I do see /dev/hda under disk and filesystems12:55
seanieb64go into that then12:55
seanieb64do you see cdrom?12:55
seanieb64click there12:55
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seanieb64there are the cd contents12:55
sdlnxgkI see it but it's not enabled like the hard drives are12:55
sdlnxgkhmmm it's saying there is no mount point12:57
sdlnxgkwill not let me modify it12:59
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sdlnxgkstill can't enable the cdrom01:02
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soulrideris there a way to reinstall kdesu? =/01:03
LjLsoulrider: it's in the kdebase-bin package01:04
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soulrideris it safe to reinstall that package ?01:06
LjLevery package should be safe to reinstall. "sudo apt-get reinstall kdebase-bin". though i'm not sure how that'd help01:06
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soulridermaybe it helps01:07
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soulridermy friend gets this error when doing kdesu <application> from a consola01:07
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:07
jackqis it possible to, reset adept manager? says it wont load cache01:08
soulriderLjL: he gets this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32851/01:08
soulriderjackq: use CLI ?01:08
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jackqCLI ?01:09
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soulridercommand line01:09
jackqoh yeah01:09
soulridercli is just faster than adept01:09
soulriderwhata re you trying to do ?01:10
Dr_willischx,  i get the stuff playing and i just let it play for hrs on end.. :) interface means very littel to me.01:10
jackqi was trying to install vlc, said something about universe respository, so i edited the source01:10
jackqdon't think i did it right01:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:11
sgorilla78is there a good comparison between kde and gnome?01:11
LjLsoulrider: check the permissions and owner of ~/.Xauthority perhaps01:11
Dr_willissgorilla78,  use each one for a while :)01:11
jackqdoing apt-get update, gives me : Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)01:11
jackqcouldn't i just edit the list in a tex editor?01:12
LjLsoulrider: owner and group should be the user's (not root), and permissions should be rw for the owner and nothing for the others01:12
soulriderLjL: its my friend, he just isnatlled kubuntu01:12
soulriderand nothing that uses kdesu works for him01:12
soulridershould he do: sudo chmod +X ~/.Xauthority ?01:12
ironfroggyi am so lost. does anyone know of documentation on what the grub stages actually mean?01:13
LjLsoulrider: i don't know what +X is honestly01:13
ironfroggyas in "if it gets to this stage, these things might be wrong but these things are definately working" etc.01:13
LjLsoulrider: what i'd do is "sudo chown hisusername:hisusername ~/.Xauthority ; sudo chmod u=rw ~/.Xauthority"01:13
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soulriderk, lets see if it works01:15
ubuntu__hello all01:15
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dan14is anyone here?01:16
dan14i have a question that i am sure has been answered many times before, but i have tried to follow the howto's that i have found and none of them seem to work01:16
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dan14i have a dell e1505 with an intel ipw3945 wireless card, and i cannot get the wireless to work01:17
mefisto_I'm trying to install ati driver following howto @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910 but I get stuck at the "create .deb packages" stage. After doing ./ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/dapper I get an error: permission denied. I'm doing this as root, and the file is not read-only, so I don't understand what the error is about.01:18
dan14i have tried to install the ieee80211 tar but i am not sure if i am doing it correctly, or if that step is even necessary01:18
dan14create the root account and make sure you run su to fully switch to root, not just sudo01:18
sgorilla78dan14: does that card need firmware?01:18
sgorilla78sudo su -01:18
sgorilla78that will work also01:18
klovei can't get to apt-get install proftpd01:19
dan14i am not sure what you mean... i had wireless working in slackware when i installed the drivers from intel01:19
sgorilla78dan14: you modprobed the drivers?01:20
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dan14right now, i can run the wireless assistant and it accurately scans for networks, but it seems like it times out before it gets an ip01:20
dan14no i have not01:20
dan14i would but i am on the live cd right now01:20
sgorilla78i have never used the ubuntu live cd01:20
dan14i just booted it because i was planning to redo the install01:21
sgorilla78i have never used any of the wireless assistant stuff01:21
sgorilla78i would try using iwconfig01:21
sgorilla78and use tshark to debug it01:21
sgorilla78formally called ethereal/tethereal01:21
dan14i tried iwconfig eth1 (my wireless) essid linksys. it was then associated but i do not know the command in ubuntu for dhcpcd equivalent01:22
sgorilla78dhclient3 eth101:22
sgorilla78that should be the best program to do it01:23
sgorilla78for ubuntu01:23
dan14ok... i will try it, just a sec01:23
soulriderLjL: that didnt work01:24
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LjLsoulrider: then i don't know. google didn't help either01:24
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unix_infidelyou're trying to setup wireless?01:24
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soulrideraww damn01:24
soulriderim trying ot get my friend out of windows01:24
unix_infideldan14: what card?01:24
soulriderbu tthis isnt helping01:24
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dan14unix_infidel: intel ipw394501:25
soulrideradept isnt opening01:25
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soulriderwhich is NOT cool01:25
dan14dhclient3 failed01:25
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soulriderin fact, nothing with kdesi opens01:25
unix_infidelyou've installed the drivers?01:25
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dan14it tried to get an ip but it only sent to
unix_infidelgive me the output of dmesg | grep ipw in pastebin01:25
unix_infidelerm, `dmesg | grep ipw` without the backticks in pastebin please.01:25
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sgorilla78dan14: output tshark -i eth1 in pastebin also01:25
dan14unix_infidel: i am not sure if they are installed correctly... never used ubuntu before, i am able to scan for networks and it tries to connect but fails01:26
unix_infideldan14: well, lets make sure we know that the hardware is operational first with the dmesg command.01:26
dan14sgorrilla: how do i do that>01:26
sgorilla78apt-get install wireshark01:26
dan14thank you all very much, i am going to boot into kubuntu quickly (from the live cd)01:27
dan14will be right back01:27
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dan14i dont want to fix this on the live cd and have it not work on the real kernel01:27
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LjLsoulrider: i'd try creating a new user, making it a member of admin, and seeing if that one works01:27
soulridergood idea01:27
uksprouthello all I have a problem that I think is a video config problem, I cannot see video output on my tv however I can see the boot up, desktop and all applications, I have troed kaffeine and vlc players but all I get is a blue screen in both of them01:27
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LjLsoulrider: somehow i still think that .Xauthority is messed up01:28
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uksproutOS is mepis 6.0 video driver is nvidia legacy and I have sound just no picture01:29
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dan14i am back, thanks for waiting01:30
Kr4t05uksprout: We don't support mepis.01:30
Kr4t05uksprout: This is a Kubuntu channel.01:30
dan14ok, i will do a dmesg and look for wireless01:30
soulriderLjL: he cant edit suers ebcause kdesu isnt working01:30
soulriderunless theres a way of doing it from the CLI01:30
soulriderwere screwed =/01:31
LjLsoulrider: course there is. "sudo visudo"01:31
uksproutI understand that I was hoping that this was a general linux problem that someone might know the fix for as I have been trying to get help in a mepis chatroom all day and nothing01:31
soulriderwhats that ?01:31
Kr4t05uksprout: What format are you trying to play?01:31
soulriderLjL: can you guide me through it ?01:32
uksproutdivx it shows on the pc monitor fine01:32
LjLsoulrider, just type "sudo visudo" and nano (assuming it's the default editor) will open up with /etc/sudoers ready to be edited01:32
soulriderit did01:32
LjLsoulrider: anyway wait a moment, why are you editing sudoers anyway?01:33
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soulrideryou just told me lol01:33
RawSewageIs there ANY way to record Skype?01:33
soulriderto create a new user01:33
RawSewageKraken doesnt work01:33
soulridersince we cant use the GUI01:33
LjLsoulrider: uh, yeah, but i didn't tell you to edit sudoers01:33
LjLsoulrider: "sudo adduser <username>" is the command to add a user01:33
soulriderwill that user be admin ?01:33
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dan14i just did a dmesg and it doesnt have anything about ipw and the only ieee reference it makes is ieee139401:34
SperMitewhy won't chown let me change the ownership of /media/iso?01:34
ubuntu__buenas noches01:34
LjLsoulrider: no, you have to make it later. "sudo adduser <username> <group>" will make <username> a member of group <group>01:34
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.01:34
LjLsoulrider: which specifically, means you type "sudo adduser <username> admin"01:34
soulriderbut thats hte admin usergroup, admin ?01:34
soulriderwhat about the password?01:34
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LjLsoulrider: it will be asked by adduser01:35
dan14ubuntu_infidel: i do not see anything in dmesg for it to work01:35
soulridercool, thanks01:35
dan14in this kernel it does not see the device01:35
dan14unix_infidel: i do not see anything in dmesg for it to work, this kernel seems not to recognise it01:36
uksproutKr4t05: a lot of the packages are marked as lubuntu01:36
soulriderLjL: he gets an error that that user doesnt exist01:36
unix_infideldan14: did you modprobe the drivers?01:36
soulrideri tried it01:36
soulriderand i get it too01:36
LjLsoulrider: uh?01:36
unix_infideli'm not sure which version you are using or which kernel.01:36
dan14unix: how do i do that? modprobe ipw?01:36
soulriderwe both did01:36
soulridersudo adduser alex admin01:37
dan14it is 2.6.1801:37
soulriderand we get an error saying alex doesnt exist01:37
LjLsoulrider, *first* you need to type "sudo adduser <username>", and go through the questions. then *later* you type "sudo adduser <username> admin"01:37
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Schalkenhas anyone gotten apollon to work?01:37
LjLsoulrider: it's the same command name, but the first syntax creates an user; the second syntax adds an existing user to a group01:37
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dan14unix: modprobe has ipw, ipw2100, ipw2200 available01:38
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ahmeniwhich package in apt contains the keyboard layouts?01:40
dan14unix_infidel: modprobe has ipw, ipw2100, and ipw2200 available01:41
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unix_infideldan14: like i said i have no idea what hardware you're using, which version of ubuntu, which kernel, etc etc.01:41
dan14unix_infidel: it is ipw3945 intel, 2.6.18 vanilla core, kubuntu 6.1001:42
unix_infideldan14: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules01:42
dan14unix_infidel: will do01:43
unix_infidelthen modprobe ipw3945; then iwconfig [interface name]  essid [Your ESSID Here] 01:43
unix_infidelthen dhclient [interface name] 01:43
unix_infidelits really pretty straightforward :P01:43
dan14unix_infidel: for some reason it isnt finding that module01:43
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unix_infideldan14: you've got linux-restricted-modules installed?01:44
dan14unix_infidel: i agree, thats why im starting to like ubuntu much more than slackware01:44
dan14unix_infidel: i dont believe so01:44
soulriderLjL:  he gets login failed when trying to use his new user01:44
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unix_infideldan14: like i said follow my instructions EXACTly, install what i said, and perform the commands in $TERM (as root)01:44
unix_infidelor with sudo prefix01:44
LjLsoulrider: uhm, that doesn't sound good you know. tried from the display manager, or from a console?01:45
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dan14unix_infidel: i am typing: (as root) apt-get install linux-restricted-modules01:45
soulriderdisplay managed01:45
soulrideri told him to restrt X01:45
soulriderand then relogin01:45
unix_infideldan14: make sure you have the proper repos , to be honest, im' not sure where linux-restricted-modules is.01:45
dan14unix_infidel: i get the error: couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules01:46
dan14i will check what repos i am using01:46
unix_infidelI'm on windows currently :P01:46
dan14do you remember where the repo file is?01:46
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dan14i will just go and uncomment all of them01:46
ahmenii have no layouts because /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.lst points to a file that doesn't exist!01:48
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jackqhmm, installed vlc plugin for firefox, but still cant view wmv's on websites01:56
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mefisto_still trying to get my ati driver installed, it begins uncompressing the downloaded file, then stops with: "Extraction failed. Signal caught, cleaning up" Same error for two different versions of the driver file01:59
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Dr_willisjackq,  a lot of wmv's can use codecs that vlc cant handle, or you dont have the codecs installed.. or you may want to try a downloader tool for firefox to download the video and play it outside of firefox.01:59
mefisto_jackq: I use the mozilla mplayer plugin, wmv files work fine in firefox for me02:01
jackqah, ill give it a try thanks!02:01
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mefisto_"Extraction failed. Signal caught, cleaning up" What is doing the extracting? Trying to understand what it is that is failing02:05
Dr_willissounds like a currupted download/package file.02:06
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mefisto_but the same error with two different downloads?02:08
HawkwindMaybe the package is corrupted02:08
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BetaCookiesits burning ^_^02:08
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mefisto_also, when it begins extracting, it does an archive integrity check, always passes02:09
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jackqmplayer plugin works with firefox 2?02:09
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mefisto_jackq: I have 1.5, don't know if it works for 202:10
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mefisto_I think I used automatix to install it02:11
jackqwhat is automatix?02:12
kawsyAnyone know the answer to this?  I was using gnome with twinview and switched to kde. In gnome, screen redraws were really smooth but in kde, moving windows and everything is choppy.. 3d acceleration and video are fine though02:12
Kr4t05kawsy: KDE typically takes more robust hardware, it never seems noticale to most, but you could be a unique case.02:13
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LjL!automatix | jackq02:14
ubotujackq: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.02:14
kawsyhmm.. its a dual core amd with geforce 6800 pci-e.. I've used kde for years on much less02:14
Kr4t05kawsy: LOL, that shouldn't be a problem, then.02:15
kawsyIt's bizarre02:15
jackqoh, well i guess i'll just wait till mplayer comes to ff202:15
mefisto_automatix is strongly discouraged?02:15
Kr4t05mefisto_: It breaks things.02:16
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Dr_willisvery very very strongly discouraged02:17
mefisto_OK, but I tried installing things without it and I break things. Then I reinstalled kubuntu and used automatix, no problems. I'm just surprised to hear it's discouraged02:17
Dr_willisim suprised you break things..02:17
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mefisto_I don't know what I'm doing02:18
Dr_willisHmm.. time to read and learn i guess. :)02:19
mefisto_read what?02:19
Dr_willisapt docs. ect...02:19
Dr_willisdepends on what/how you are breaking things.02:19
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mefisto_yeah, that doesn't help me much. I get conflicting info02:20
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mefisto_I might have to pick up one of those ubuntu books02:20
Dr_willisdepends on what you are installing, figure out what you are breaking. :)  or cheat. Heh...02:21
Homerwill KDE4 come bundled with Duke Nukem Forever?02:21
Dr_willisbut in the long run its worth while to learn the basics/fundamentals and how to do things yourself.02:21
Dr_willisHomer,  comming out the day befor.02:21
BetaCookiesHomer lolol02:21
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jackqanyone know kpdf's directory?02:27
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guptadeb http://repos.knio.it/ sarge main contrib - is this a correct repo for dapper?02:30
guptaIt is supposed to be some kde-repo02:30
Jucatosarge = Debian stable02:31
guptaanother one is== deb http://repos.knio.it/ breezy main contrib02:31
Jucatobreezy = release 5.10, 2 releases old02:31
sgorilla78what source do you need to add to get win32codecs02:32
guptaSo any otehr kde-apps repo for dapper02:32
Jucatosgorilla78: you donwload it directly02:32
sgorilla78for mplayer02:32
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:32
Dr_willisi go to the mplayer homepage and download it.02:32
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Jucatoah for mplayer?02:32
Dr_willisits for all the players. :)02:32
Jucatohehe :)02:32
Jucatosgorilla78: that RestrictedFormats link has instructions on how to donwload and install w32codecs02:33
sgorilla78Jucato: cool, thanks02:34
sgorilla78seems like ubuntu makes it easy to setup02:34
charlie5hulloo ... the last few weeks, when the adept auto-updater icon appears in my sys tray, and i click on it ... it d/l's the packages lists but then says there are no updates and  'goodbye' ... ?02:35
charlie5any idea what might cause this ?02:35
sgorilla78is totem supposed to be good02:35
charlie5... or how to fix it ? ...  :)02:35
sgorilla78why is totem default instead of something like vlc or mplayer02:35
Dr_willistotem plays most everything for me.02:36
Jucatototem is the default on Ubuntu02:36
Dr_williskaffine is kubuntu02:36
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Makro224 hrs trying to do an bootable hard disk image from a partition02:41
Makro2this is so frustrating02:42
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Dr_willis interesting...02:42
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unix_infidelMakro2: why not just use mondo / mini.02:48
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Dr_willismondo/mindi is handy02:48
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ceckohello, could anybody help me with Konsole, please?02:48
unix_infidelcecko: sure, ask a more specific question.02:49
Makro2unix_infidel: mondo/mini?02:49
Dr_willis!info mondo02:49
ubotumondo: powerful disaster recovery suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.08-2-2 (edgy), package size 391 kB, installed size 1128 kB02:49
mefisto_can someone help me understand what this error means: ati-driver-installer-8.29.6.run: ./ati-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied02:49
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:50
Dr_willistry 'bash whateverinstaller.sh'   you are runing it with sudo?02:50
Dr_willisI just use the repo packages to instal the ati drivers02:50
ceckounix_infidel: using Partimage (after I finally found that I have to run it in shell :) I can't figure out how to check/uncheck the options in it02:50
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mefisto_Dr_willis: the repo versions don't work well for me. I'm trying to install the driver from ati.com02:51
Makro2can i make a bootable hard disk image from a partition with mondo?02:51
Dr_willisyes.. you can make a live cd/set that boots/restores02:52
mefisto_Dr_willis: do you have tvout working?02:52
Dr_willismefisto_,  i was thinking that it worked with the repo veriions.02:52
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:52
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ceckodoesnt anybody know how to check the options in Partimage (or any other program running in the shell with that blue interface looking just like a DOS app)?02:57
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Makro2i just wanna make an hd image from a partition with an older filesystem to boot it using qemu02:57
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Dr_willisMakro2, Hmm.. can proiberly dd it to a file, but not sure what qemu can read.03:01
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Makro2dr_willis: that the thing03:01
ghostshadow189hi all , how can i add a new window decorations ?03:01
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Dr_williskde-look.org :)03:02
Makro2dr_willis: i know qemu can read raw files03:02
mefisto_ok, I've managed to get past my errors. I moved the installer from my windows partition to the kubuntu home directory. Was I getting errors because of permissions on the windows partition?03:02
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Dr_willismoved what installer?03:04
ghostshadow189Dr_willis , i downloaded a window decorations file , but in this .tar file there all of .png file , so where should i extract them ?03:05
nytgud morning03:05
nytit's morning here : 10 am03:06
nytdr willis where you from ?03:06
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Dr_willisIndiana - its 9:00pm here03:06
nyti'm from phil ;)03:07
paulwmarengo, IN here.03:07
nytdo you watch pacquiao- morales match03:07
Dr_willisghostshadow189,  many themes for window decorations are compiled/installed. then theres special theme data files for specific themeable themes. :)03:07
Dr_willisnyt,  no clue what that even is/was heh...03:08
Jucatoyeah. we won! :)03:08
Dr_willisthat was a Chess Match right?03:08
ghostshadow189dr_willis , i found that style has folder /usr/share.........../kstyle , or theme manager is kthememanager , so wat folder of window decoration ?03:09
nytno it's  boxing match03:09
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nyti have a question03:09
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nyta ms access file03:09
Dr_willisghostshadow189,  they get compiled go someplace..  if theres no source to compile.. id advise reading on the  themes homepage/docs03:09
nyti transfer it to open office database :(03:10
nyti want it to open in open office databasse03:10
nyti can't  see my file :((03:10
nytwhat will i do ?03:10
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cchrisanybody home03:11
cchrisso what is this place about03:11
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cchrisI just clicked on konversation03:12
Dr_willisKubuntu support...03:12
cchrisand here I am03:12
nyti have a question03:12
nyta ms access file03:12
nyti transfer it to open office database :(03:12
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nyti want it to open in open office databasse03:12
nyti can't  see my file :((03:12
cchrishow do you configure samba03:13
nytwhat will i do ?03:13
cchrisbetween kubuntu and win9803:13
Darkocan some one tell me how to modify xorg.conf03:13
Dr_willissudo editoryoulike /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:13
Dr_willisBackup the original first....03:13
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Darkohow to backup ?03:14
ReporterXhi all!03:14
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Dr_williscp command..03:14
Darkosorry i am a newbie03:14
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Dr_willisif you dont know the basics of the shell... you may want to research that befor editing the xorg.conf03:14
ReporterXi would like to disable the anti-aliasing efect on gtk fonts. This is possible on kubuntu03:14
Darkoi know what to put in03:14
cchrisso has anyone had any luck with samba03:15
cchrisconnecting to win9803:15
Dr_williscchris,  never had any issues with it.03:15
ceckotalking about support: how can I please tick the boxes in the blue DOSish program running in Konsole?03:15
Darkoi have ati card with frxgl03:15
cchristhen something is wrong on my end03:15
Dr_willisthe use of encrypted/non encrypted passwords can be an issue with samba and some versions of windows03:15
Dr_willisyou are trying to see win98 shares?03:16
Dr_willisor get win98 to see linux shares?03:16
cecko[X]  Check partition before saving03:16
cchristhe network works perfectly03:16
cchriswith winxp and win9803:16
cecko[ ]  Check partition before saving   <--- I can't get it into this state!03:16
cchrisno I am trying to access win from linux03:17
cchristhe scan shows diddly03:17
Dr_williscould try out the smbfuse fileystem stuff, or smb4k or some other samba browsers.03:17
cecko( ) Bzip2 (.bz2: very slow + very small image file)  --(?)-->  (X) Bzip2 (.bz2: very slow + very small image file)    How do I do it, please???03:17
Dr_willisor try mountign the shares directly03:17
cchrisi tried the smb4k03:17
cchrismaybe the smbfuse03:18
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Dr_willissmb4k works nicely for me. :)03:18
cchrisIt has for me too in the past03:18
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cchristhe win98 machine dual boots to xubuntu03:19
Dr_willisi dont even have a win98 machine to test :)03:19
Dr_willisyouve had  linux->win98 working befor>?03:19
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cchrislinux and xp03:20
cchrisboth machines dual boot03:20
Dr_willismay want to check the samba config then and  try the encrypted password settings.03:20
Dr_willisor set up a public share on the win98 box with no password.03:20
Dr_willissee if that works.03:20
Dr_willis then you know if its a password issue IF it works.03:20
cchristhe win 98 doesn't have a password03:20
ReporterXit's possible to disable anti-aliasing efect on gtp applications fonts ?03:20
Dr_willisYou may want to make one for it then.03:20
Dr_willisi seem to recall having to do little tricks to get win98 working right that way03:21
cchriswill that help03:21
drbreenlol win98 is worse than no operating system03:21
Dr_willisI always made a user, and password )then had tweakui auto login03:21
ReporterXgtp = gtk03:21
cchriswinxp ain't so swell either03:21
Dr_willisReporterX,  you want to disalble AA  Just for gtk apps and keep it for KDE apps?03:21
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cchriswhere would I find the encrypted password03:22
Dr_willisthey say Keh a lot.03:22
ReporterXyes... it's possible ?03:22
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Dr_willisits a samba config file setting to use them or to not use them. IF you got no user/password on the win98 box.. not sure why it would even matter.03:23
Dr_willisReporterX,  i cant think of any reson to  even  do that. :)  heh..  could set the gnome-theme stuff to disable it.. that may disable it for gnome apps.03:23
cchriswill Kubuntu install on a pentium 2 350 mhz03:24
drbreencchris: ram ?03:24
Dr_willisive installed on a Pent I - 100, wth 32mb of ram...03:25
Dr_willistook forever.. :) but it ran. I just used the console however.03:25
drbreenand kde ?03:25
Dr_willisa littel SSH box.03:25
ReporterXDr_willies: ok... i'm using tahoma 8 font on my desktop, and this font best view is with anti-aliasing off.03:25
drbreenwhat does kde feels like with only 32 mb ram ?03:25
Dr_willisa light weight window manager would be best.03:25
drbreenswapswapswapswapswap ?03:25
cchrisI am thinking about going to linux entirely03:25
cchrisi need to get everyone acclimated03:26
Dr_willisfor that small of a machine. you may want to set it up as a X client/Xterminal to just display a X session on another bigger machine03:26
drbreencchris tried xubuntu already ?03:26
drbreenand ?03:26
cchrisit works ok03:26
drbreenwhy not use xubuntu ?03:26
cchrisI could03:26
drbreenkde is too bloated for >8 year old devices03:27
cchrisbut I thought I could try kubuntu03:27
drbreenmotorhead: xubuntu =ubuntu w/o gnome but with xfce403:27
Motorheadohh, thnx03:27
drbreencchris: i assume it would run, though03:27
cchrisI might try03:27
drbreencchris: but i don't know .....03:27
Motorheadi've only tried ubuntu & kubuntu... i could say ubuntu is my favorite :P03:27
cchrisnothing to lose03:27
drbreencchris: i have tried with slackware 10 and kde on 350mhz 64mb ram03:28
cchrisI tried xubuntu and ended up downloading alot of stuff03:28
drbreenyou have 250 mb ram ?03:28
drbreeni did not read that03:29
cchriscould buy more if needed03:29
drbreenthat changes a lot03:29
paulwcchris: you might want to look at DSL03:29
drbreencause kde is memory hungry03:29
drbreenlike gnome03:29
drbreenthat slows things down03:29
drbreenwith 128 mb my laptop (800mhz) is barely usable under kde or gnome03:30
drbreenwith 256 mb, it's all nice and fun03:30
cchrisI suppose if I use the live cd I could get an idea03:30
Jucatoxfce, fluxbox, dsl, etc03:30
cchrisabout how it would run03:30
drbreencchris: i suppose that will take foeever ;)03:30
cchriswhat is dsl03:30
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ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE03:30
drbreendsl == damn small linux03:31
drbreenbut when you say xubuntu made you download stuff, dont try dsl03:31
drbreenits only 50mb !03:31
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cchrisI have that too03:31
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cchristhat was the first one I tried03:32
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cchristried fedora 5 but not on the pent203:32
paulwwell on a limited machine you can't expect full blown apps03:32
cchrisI will lower my expectations03:33
cchristhanks for the link03:33
cchrisI will save that03:34
cchrisI wandered around to several os until I found out I needed a different modem03:35
cchrisso any of them would of worked03:36
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cchrisare there any other sites for Konversation03:36
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Dr_willispuppylinux is very nice for a little mini linux install03:39
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cchrisnever heard of  that one03:40
cchrisjust found the channel list03:41
cchrishelp files you gotta love them03:41
Dr_willisPuppy is about 80mb live cd..03:41
cchrisI can easily run the xubuntu if I have to03:41
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cchrisbut will reach for the kubuntu03:42
cchrismy wings might melt03:42
cchrisbut what a ride03:42
campbchjust curious... in kdevelop, is there a reason it would give me inconsistent new project lists? it seems to change to a more limited list periodically... i don't remember enough to say exactly what's missing, but i havent done anything besides open, close, and compile projects03:42
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Dr_willisyou can always install the xubuntu-desktop and run it after installing kubuntu03:42
cchrisgood idea03:43
Makro2close to the edge03:43
campbchalso, the project folder changes structure, and it's not making any sense? :(03:43
cchristhanks for your input03:43
Agent_bobQuestion; howto play dvd's in vlc ?03:43
cchrisJust what I needed03:43
Makro2the filesystem is up, xwindows doesn`t start, it seems some problem related with the video config03:43
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages03:44
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campbchdoes anyone know?03:45
Agent_bobDr_willis: so dvd's require this ?03:45
Dr_willisAgent_bob,  unless they are unencrypted. :)03:45
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Dr_willisvlc may or may not need it.. not sure03:45
Agent_bobi'll have a read.03:45
Makro2ahm...what were the command for to reconfigure xfree86??03:46
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Agent_bob<Makro2> ahm...what were the command for to reconfigure xfree86??  <--- if you have Xfree86 you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-xserver  or what ever the name of that package is.03:48
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archangel_how can I reformat a hard drive with a linux cd to a fat32 format?03:50
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Agent_bobmkfs.vfat /dev/'address'03:51
Dr_willisfdisk it.. delete the partitions. remake them as fat32, mkfs.vfat  on it03:51
archangel_from where do I do that?03:52
archangel_oh nevermind, duh03:53
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Agent_bobcli       and   changing the label may be advisable but is probably not a requirement.03:53
HawkwindFrom a terminal of course03:53
archangel_void that last Q03:53
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Makro2well, i got the filesystem running but only in text mode03:59
Dr_willisfile system running? :)03:59
Makro2yep :)03:59
Makro2now i need to make x windows run03:59
Makro2but this is enough for today04:00
archangel_I selected in fdisk to delete a partition, but then it tells me that a  partition has not been selected. However I gave the address04:00
Makro2now i can rest...hehe04:00
Dr_williswhich fdisk program are you using?04:00
archangel_I just typed fdisk in the terminal04:00
archangel_so I'm not sure04:01
Dr_williscould use a live cd with gparted/qtparted it can do all the work with a ncie gui.04:01
Makro2dr_willis: in fact qemu can handle partitions, is not really necessary to make images04:01
Dr_willisMakro2,  yep.. but i perfer vmware. :)04:01
Dr_willisi just use the tools to test out live cd's mainly04:01
archangel_I'm doing this for my bro-in law04:01
Makro2took me some hours to understand qemu internal working04:01
Makro2vmware is for linux?04:01
Dr_willisof course.04:01
Makro2mmm interesting04:02
archangel_he want windows put back on it04:02
Makro2not me04:02
Dr_willisfdisk the drive.. delte all the partitions... then boot the windows cd and let it partition/format the drives..04:02
archangel_(compatibility issues with college)04:02
Dr_willisor use the windows cd and its little rescue/whatever mode and its fdisk.04:03
Dr_willisyou jhave just the 1 hard drive?04:03
archangel_well I used windows fdisk before and it could not delete linux partitions04:03
archangel_but I have not used the newer version in xp04:04
Dr_willissould be able to. ive done it befor.04:04
archangel_(I was using a win98 startup disk)04:04
Dr_willisor just use a live cd or whatever and fdisk /dev/hda   then d to delete, (enter #) delet the rest.. then 'w'rite the changes.04:04
archangel_so it was rather dated04:04
Dr_willisLinux's fdisk is different commands/layout then windows's :)04:04
archangel_yeah I tried that and it told me that a partition was not selected04:05
archangel_but I have it the address04:05
Dr_willisfdisk /dev/hda04:05
Dr_willisbe sure to run it as root. :)04:05
archangel_I didnt understand that, uless I gave the wrong add.04:05
Dr_willishda - is the drive :)04:05
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archangel_i'll try again04:06
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archangel_trying windows xp cd04:07
man4arghhh WinXP04:08
man4nothung but hassle04:08
Makro2display modes....old tricks...04:08
Dr_willislinux's fdisk is so much nicer then windows' version. :)04:08
man4er nothing04:08
Dr_willisheck ya could just 'dd' the drive and whipe it out.. then do the isntaller04:08
Dr_willisactually i though the xp installer could delte/whipe the drive04:08
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archangel_couldnt get annywhere withh fdisk in linux04:09
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Dr_willislearn to use it. :)04:09
archangel_I guess I'm too used to the windows version04:09
Dr_willisor use the other fdisk alternatives04:09
Dr_willisfdisk /dev/hda04:10
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Dr_willisd (for delete)04:10
Dr_willisenter # to delete04:10
archangel_it would let use that command either04:10
Dr_willisw to writhg changes to disk...04:10
Dr_willisDone. :)04:10
archangel_I mean wouldnt04:10
Dr_willisyou need to run the commands as root user of course.04:10
archangel_it kept telling me that no partitions were defind or selected04:11
archangel_but I have the address04:11
archangel_so I dont know04:11
Dr_willisdo  sudo fdisk -l04:11
Dr_willisand see04:11
Dr_willisi have NO clue what you mean by 'address'04:11
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archangel_sorry, windows term04:12
intelikeysudo cfdisk /dev/hda04:12
archangel_windows  format c: /s              linux fdisk dev/hda  or something like that04:12
Dr_willisformat is not the same as fdisk....04:13
intelikeywindows fdisk04:13
Dr_willisyou fdisk the drives to make the partitions/filesystems.. THEN you use format on the  made partitions04:13
LjL"format" = "mkfs"04:13
LjL"fdisk" = ... well, "fdisk"04:13
Dr_willisif installing windows - you just need to delete the partitions.. let the windows installer 'create/format' the partitions.04:13
archangel_ok going to try again with linux, it booting now on the live cd04:15
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archangel_ok its up and running04:21
archangel_linux live cd and konsol is up04:22
archangel_I type fdisk04:22
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compilerwriteranyone know how to share a printer that is connected to an XP machine?04:22
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:23
intelikey https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:23
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intelikey<LjL> "fdisk" = ... well, "fdisk"  <--- actually no.  windows 'fdisk' ~= linux 'cfdisk'04:25
compilerwriterOk anyone know how to do it when the printer is connected to the XP machine?04:26
Dr_williswindows fdisk = brain dead  program with an idiotic interface. :)04:26
Dr_willislinux fdisk = makes sence.04:26
Martijn81just curious, anyone has a laptop in mind when you think about a ultimate Linux laptop?04:26
Dr_willis'hit escape to continue'......04:26
Dr_willisMartijn81,  theres several Linux Laptop  'sites'/stores out.  depends on your budget.04:26
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Dr_willisThe ThinkPads i hear are very good.04:27
Dr_willisi got a little compaq/turion thats not bad for the $$04:27
intelikeyDr_willis still more like cfdisk than fdisk04:27
archangel_ok cfdisk04:27
archangel_tells me that I do not have no permission to write04:28
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archangel_how do I get permission on a live cd04:28
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:28
Dr_willisrun them as root...  for the 100 times...04:28
intelikeyarchangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:28
archangel_that is my question.... how????     lol04:28
intelikeyarchangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:29
Dr_willisUbuntu basics. :)04:29
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Martijn81Dr_willis: hmm, these IBM thinkpads sure are looking techie yes:)04:29
archangel_so I type sudo cfdisk?04:29
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intelikeyarchangel_ if it's hda then yes.04:30
intelikeyif not then   sudo cfdisk /dev/sda    or what ever it is.     (it being the hard drive.)04:30
archangel_its hda  (main drive)04:31
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Martijn81Dr_willis: but, windowstax :(04:32
archangel_how do be root on a live cd?04:32
Dr_willissudo -s04:32
archangel_ahh ok04:32
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intelikeyarchangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:32
intelikeyarchangel_ go read > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:32
Dr_willisheh - that url is getting a work out today.04:33
intelikeyit'll get more if he asks that again.04:33
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Dr_willisand he will leran to LIKE it!04:34
archangel_intelikey: sorry dude it wont let me talk to you in chat04:34
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intelikeyshhh don't tell him.04:34
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Dr_willis:P learned04:35
intelikeyJucato where you been hiding ?04:35
JucatoI've been hiding behind you. that's why you couldn't see me :P04:35
intelikey"get thee behind me ...."   lol04:36
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Dr_willisHmm... trying to get Kaffine to do 'save screenshots' but not ask for a file name.. just save them to screen1.jpg screen2.jpg and so on...04:39
archangel_being in root still doesnt give me the permission on the live cd04:39
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archangel_I'm going to throw the laptop out the window04:39
intelikeythat's probably because it's not hda04:39
archangel_you think?04:39
archangel_but its the main drive04:39
Dr_willissudo fdisk -l04:40
Dr_willisand See what drives are shown04:40
archangel_I thought the main drive was always hda04:40
intelikeysudo fdisk -l      should tell you.04:40
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intelikeynope main drive is always what ever device it is....04:40
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intelikeythis is not windows   there is no  " C: is always your hdd "     rule      in fact one might equate C: to /   rather than any device node.04:41
archangel_haa haaaaa04:41
archangel_ok gotcha04:42
Dr_willisi managed to install windows to H: one day.. had no C: drive04:42
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intelikeyDr_willis compressed hd ?04:42
Dr_willisintelikey,  usb media reader and XP being an IDIOT....04:42
archangel_its hdc04:43
Dr_willis12 in 1 reader.. so windows made them D: E: F: ect....04:43
jackqcommand to umount hda1?04:43
intelikeyah Dr_willis makes sense.04:43
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intelikeyyes jackq04:43
Dr_willisintelikey,  not really. :)04:43
archangel_hey I have a media reader laying around, will it work with linux?04:44
jackqerm, what would i time in cli to umount hda1 ?04:44
intelikeyactually it does   it was reserving C: for the hd  like a good little M$ should04:44
intelikeyjackq  yes type that04:44
Dr_willisit dident reserve it.. i misstyped...04:44
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Dr_willisC: was also on the media reader.04:44
jackqits just, "umount hda1" ?04:45
Secret_Squirrelor sudo umount hda104:45
intelikeyjackq  yes    sudo  will be needed if you are not root.04:45
jackqahh ok04:45
jackqthanks :)04:46
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intelikeyactually   if you want to be sure   sudo umount /dev/hda104:46
archangel_its done04:46
Lam_what does browseable, public, and available mean (samba)?04:46
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Secret_Squirrel<---  is in the process of  converting home PC's to Ubuntu.  No more MonkeySoft!  ;)04:46
archangel_getting readt to format with win xp cd now04:46
intelikeySecret_Squirrel they are still 'PCs' just not  MonkeySoft  PC's     opensource PC's  :)04:48
intelikeyPC is the i86 familey of hardware04:48
flaccidhow to disable UTC time support due to dual-booting with a non-UTC os (windows) ?04:49
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:50
flaccidintelikey: do i just run it?04:50
intelikeyflaccid yeah  but that may not do what you asked.04:50
intelikeytry it.04:50
flaccidhow do i know if it did it?04:50
intelikeyif the clock changes ?04:51
flaccidwell no the clock didn't change. i just said no to changing time zone. so i doubt this does it04:51
intelikeydate -u04:52
intelikeythat should display the correct utc time04:52
flaccidi want to disable use of UTC not display it04:53
archangel_dude I am so confused now. I rebooted the laptop (after deleting the main partition and the swap) and having the xp disk in the drive... 1) does not boot to the xp cd, 2) boots up to linux (I thought I just smoked the partitions)04:54
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intelikeyflaccid i can't test tzconfig i don't have any zoneinfo installed.04:55
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Dr_willis archangel_  you did do the 'w' to WRITE changes to the disk?04:57
Dr_willisarchangel_,  if you delete them with d, then quit.. they dont get deleted.04:57
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flaccidapparently there is a file to edit04:58
archangel_I guess I went to fast04:58
Dr_willisi mentioned write several times earlier. :)04:58
Dr_willisthats a big way that dos vs linux fdisk differes.. and linux's makes more sence.04:58
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thill2708anyone here program in qt?04:59
thill2708er, with qt?05:00
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archangel_yeah sorry Dr_willis05:00
archangel_Dr_willis: I am in my pc room and running in out out cause my wife cant let me do my work in peace05:01
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Dr_willisarchangel_,  thats the story of my life.....05:01
archangel_Dr_willis: gotta do this and that.... yatta yatta05:01
intelikeyflaccid files /etc/zoneinfo and /etc/adjtime may be relevently interesting05:01
Dr_willisGo give her a good Sexor..... tell her its a perscription from the "Dr of Love"05:02
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archangel_Dr_willis: I just hope she doesnt notice that line05:02
Dr_willis'calls me upstairs to talk... then shes on the phone.....'05:02
archangel_Dr_willis: lol05:02
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archangel_yeah, we have a rape apointment tonight05:03
Dr_willisif it only takes 2 min... can it even be called that...05:03
Dr_willis'You done yet?!'05:04
Dr_willis'now go take out the trash.....'05:04
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ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:04
=== intelikey hopes no kiddies are around...
Dr_willis'gee honey, can we at least turn off the weather report on tv' ...........05:04
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joheyAnyone know how to use Umbrello for designing database relationship diagrams (ER)?05:06
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archangel_sorry about the mental images everyone05:07
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intelikeyWarning: the string include-menu-defs did not occur in template file /etc/X11/twm//system.twmrc-menu05:10
intelikeydappers twm is buggy i think05:10
Dr_willisor does the file exist?05:11
intelikeyfile exists05:11
intelikeyi'v also had trubble with the twm menu being blank.05:12
intelikeyi wrote my own, but that's not the way it's supposed to work.05:12
Dr_willisi perfer wmx  for a uber-light window manager. :)05:12
intelikeydoes it do [alt]  click   cycling through windows ?05:13
Dr_willisnever noticed05:13
Dr_willisit has a weird way ot changing desktops/windows. :P05:14
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intelikeyi'll give it a looking over.05:14
Dr_willisits old.. but very minimal. looks ok.05:14
Dr_willisi recall having to set some variable/./confogure optionm to get it to compile right.05:14
ironfroggyany idea why kaffeine would stop working suddenly with error "All Audio drivers failed to initialize"?05:15
intelikeywonder what package burped this one out?   install-info(/usr/share/info/automake-1.4.info): read < /usr/share/info/automake-1.4.info: No such file or directory05:16
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blackninehey people05:17
intelikeyoh oh ! there are people here !!!   and me with no cloths on....05:18
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blackninei cant change my screen resolution05:21
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fixrez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:21
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:21
ironfroggyreboot didnt help. what audio drivers does kaffeine need that its failing to load or where can i get more information about the problem?05:21
Admiral_Chicagohow do I set lock a package05:21
Admiral_Chicagoi don't want to update gaim but APT keeps trying to update it05:22
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: apt-get deslect gaim?05:23
ironfroggyim not even able to configure xine from kaffeine because even that gives me the audio driver error.05:23
intelikeyno dselsct is an app    but i'm not sure it does that05:23
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intelikeydselect     < iisc05:24
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: i'll do am an lookup05:24
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago dpkg hold packagename    maybe.05:26
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: i think that was it05:26
intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago adept should have a feture05:26
Admiral_Chicagointelikey: i looked in adept, i didn't see it05:26
ironfroggyhow can i configure xine?05:26
Admiral_Chicagoi know how to do it in synaptic05:26
intelikeyit still "should" have....05:26
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Dr_willisuse the menus it has. :)05:27
intelikeyNo `START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY' and no `This file documents'.05:27
intelikeyinstall-info(/usr/share/info/automake-1.4.info): unable to determine description for `dir' entry - giving up05:27
ironfroggythat is, how can i configure it besides the GUI for configuring it (which is broken)05:28
Admiral_Chicagosudo aptitude hold gaim05:28
Admiral_Chicagono that didn't work05:29
Admiral_Chicagohmm whatever i don't need all the other stuff it wants to install05:29
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intelikeysudo aptitude    then select it and mark it for hold05:29
intelikeyif you can stand the interface that is aptitude05:30
ParkotronDoes anyone here have experience ripping DVDs with K3B?05:30
Dr_willisyea - ya think there would of been some work done on it05:30
Dr_willisI dident even realize k3b could rip dvd/cds05:31
Dr_willisi just use it to burn cd/dvds05:31
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ParkotronIt's a new feature in the 1.0 previews. But I can't get it working.05:31
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages05:32
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto05:32
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Dr_willis feature-rich and user-friendly  and cured my dogs prostate problem!05:32
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Admiral_Chicagoagt aptitude is hard do use05:34
intelikeyif h2o is on the inside of a fire hydrant,  what is on the out side ?05:34
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Admiral_Chicagoha that took a while to get05:35
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:39
intelikeyheh why would i need any of these groups ?   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32884/plain/05:40
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intelikeyspecally irc ?05:41
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intelikeyi like just having four groups in my /etc/groups file05:41
Dr_willisits magic voodoo!05:42
Dr_willistouch it and it will go boom!05:42
intelikeywhat's the command to exit a perl script    is it exit ?05:43
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Dr_willisi think so.. or quit05:44
intelikeylike a shell script   exit 0    ?05:44
intelikeyi'll try it.05:44
Dr_willisi belive so. :) make a 3 line perl script and see.05:44
intelikeyi'm adding that to the second line of install-info so it will stop erroring out on a   dpkg-reconfigure -a05:45
Dr_willisyou leet haxor!05:46
Nukedok xubuntu and beryl = ?05:46
intelikeyi'm not l337 Dr_willis   you know that.05:47
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Dr_willisIm too sexy for my OS...05:47
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Dr_willis24 min show.. first 4 min are title/intro/summary,   last 3 min are outro/credits...05:49
Dr_willisno wonder theres 160+ eps.05:49
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seishinbyoupurple cheese rainbow goat.  I mean good afternoon05:49
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intelikeyseishinbyou and a grey laxitave to you05:51
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seishinbyouintelikey: Every time I see the word "grey", I think the elepant from Denmark thing, and how easy it is to avoid that if you know the other country that starts with D05:53
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intelikeyRead error: 387 syntax misspelled05:55
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intelikeyDr_willis it is exit   but don't ever forget that all perl lines end with ;05:57
Dr_williswell most all. :)05:57
intelikeyi put  exit 0    and it errored out....05:57
intelikeyexit 0; works05:57
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intelikeywell update-alternatives and update-rc.d  anyway.06:01
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intelikeyi do think i have one system around here with all scripts removed..... it's a binary or else boxen06:03
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intelikeyya know i think i do some really wierd things to a linux box......06:04
Dr_willisYou pervert.06:04
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intelikeyi guess this means it errored out again... chgrp: cannot access `/var/spool/cron/crontabs': No such file or directory06:11
intelikeythat's almost enough to make me remove dpkg and forget it....06:12
intelikeyi may just do that.   dpkg -P dpkg ....06:12
intelikeyerr dpkg -P --force-all dpkg06:12
intelikeyor better yet rm /usr/bin/dpkg /var/lib/dpkg -R06:14
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nickv111Hey, all. I just installed mythtv and mysql and all on my desktop computer. Everything works, and I can watch TV, record it, and the like. However, I'm trying to set it up so that another computer can watch TV, too, and that's becoming a mess. First of all, mysql -u mythtv -p -h (my backend's IP) doesn't work, though mysql -u mythtv -p -h localhost works on my backend. I uncommented a line in my.cnf that bound it to06:18
nickv111127.0.0.1, restarted the mysql server, and I get the same problem. My remote machine cannot connect to my backend using mysql, so that's my initial problem06:18
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nickv111Hmm. What happened there. . .06:18
LeeJunFannickv111: when you grant permissions like grant all on mythtv.* to user@'localhost' it will only allow them to come from localhost, you also probably need to grand with user@', or just make sure mythtv is set to connect via localhost.06:20
nickv111Ah, that worked06:21
LeeJunFannickv111: is a remote machine trying to connect to your mysql database?06:21
nickv111LeeJunFan: Thanks06:21
kenHow do I adjust KDE sounds?06:22
Dr_willisthe system settings/control panel has a place for it..06:22
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Dr_williswhat ya wanting to 'adjust' ?06:22
LeeJunFanken: system settings, notifications to change sound events.06:23
kenLeeJunFan: where is system settings?06:23
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LeeJunFanken, in the main kmenu06:24
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seishinbyouNoooo, I missed my chance.  Someone got Fedora Linux running on the PS306:35
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seishinbyouJucato> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZXcuhJkwx406:36
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Jucatoseishinbyou: that's nice. but aside from saying "wow! FC runs on PS3", what does it all mean?06:39
seishinbyouWell, 50,000 yen for a cheap development platform isn't bad06:39
Jucato(and how do you do keyboard input?)06:39
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Jucatoso it's possible to run FC (or probably any Linux distro) on PS3...then what? I just don't understand it.. :(06:41
seishinbyouPrice of PS3 which can run Linux and act as a cheap development machine is cheaper than buying a PS3 and a separate computer,06:41
seishinbyouespecially if you just want to do simple tasks06:41
seishinbyouMind you, you are outputting to a TV06:42
seishinbyouand not a monitor06:42
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Jucatoah I see...06:42
seishinbyouPlus, you could (in theory) modify the way the PS3 works so you could use it as whatever you want (i.e. custom media center/server)06:42
seishinbyouToday I want my PS3 to act as a.... file serve06:43
Jucatoin theory, but wouldn't Sony have some DRM in place?06:43
XVampireXPS3 for the win06:43
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seishinbyoufor Blu-ray, yes, but I can't see that not being circumvented eventually06:44
seishinbyou(warning: double negative in previous statement)06:44
Dr_willisi read in an artical about the ps3 - that one of the cell oprocessors is for 'os security' whatever that ment,06:44
seishinbyouTo make sure the PS3 firmware isn't overwritten perhaps, but who says you can't clone that, modify it, and boot it separately as the "Other OS" from the media Xbar06:45
seishinbyouBut feh, a lot of this is speculation at the moment.  At least it is open to homebrew and other OSs, unlike the PSP attitude06:45
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:46
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Dr_willisgiven sonys history and so on.. I aing getting a ps3 any time soon. :)06:53
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warpzoneDr_willis: although the thought of dropping ubuntu on one is kinda tempting06:54
faderhvalmorning :)06:54
warpzoneDr_willis: just not tempting enough to pay $600 for their DRM'ed crap06:54
Dr_willisYep.. $600 is a nice pc...06:55
warpzoneand a nicer file server06:55
faderhvalwas wondering if there were a command that lets me see how much data i've transfered in total???06:55
Dr_willisi recall some way to get tcp transfer totals...06:55
XVampireXDid anyone see DRM? in action?06:55
warpzoneGoogley time!06:56
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warpzonefaderhval: urm, can't see anything off of the bat06:57
seishinbyouXVampireX: I had to work on a project involving truly evil DRM (video content "protection").  I'm sure it would be illegal outside Japan06:57
faderhvalhmm google doesnt help much...:/06:57
JucatoI have experienced DRM videos06:57
XVampireXseishinbyou: So, how does it work? Licenses to people who can watch it? How does this DRM know who can watch it and who can't?06:58
warpzonefaderhval: never give up, trust your instincts!06:58
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ubdkonnichiwa seishinbyou :O06:58
faderhval:) trying to but im not sure what to google for :)06:58
warpzonefaderhval: ... sorry just played starfox again, I'll check something else06:58
Dr_willisStarfox.. hmm for the SNES?06:58
seishinbyouXVampireX: It involved WMV videos involving celebrities endorsing products (which included clips from their music videos).  It got even when the program seeked out existing products from competitors06:58
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seishinbyouubd> 06:58
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Jucatothe DRM WMV I have were downloaded from a site that teaches 3D modeling and animation. (kids online, I think)06:59
XVampireXAnyway, this is a support channel, no? :P07:00
DFManyone know what is up with Frostwire?07:00
DFMnot connecting?07:01
warpzoneDr_Willis: nah 64 emulator07:01
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Dr_williswarpzone,  heh - wonder if that game will be one ya can play on the Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :)07:01
ubdseishinbyou: ??????07:01
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XVampireXDFM: It's a known issue, look in their forums07:02
seishinbyouubd> You have Japanese fonts installed, and JP support enabled?07:02
XVampireXgive me a sec I'll dig it07:02
warpzoneDr_willis: despite it's intentions, that name still feels akward. How you do invite friends over to play with your Wii?07:02
jon_Anyone have any experiance with ndiswrapper?07:02
DFMlooked earlier this month and couldn't find anything07:02
DFMeverytime I click their forum link the browser close's07:02
ubdi can see japanese, i dont use a jap. font atm i guess07:02
DFMthx for the response thow07:03
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defrysktry nicotine07:04
defryskmuch better and java-free07:04
defrysk!info nicotine07:05
ubotunicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB07:05
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jon_Any advice on what kind of wi-fi card I should buy?07:08
Dr_willisone with a good return policy. :)07:08
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warpzonequestion, btw07:09
warpzoneI'm hoping to make this box a secure fileserver, accessible from the internet07:10
warpzonecan anybody reccomend a guide of some sort07:10
warpzoneor should I just stick to sftp07:10
Dr_willisssh is always a good idea07:11
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Dr_willisdepends on the exact task you are doing with the fileserver.07:11
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warpzoneDr_willis: just holding files that I can grab whenever and backup with rsync07:12
warpzoneno websites or anything07:12
DFMXVampireX:thanks I got it going07:12
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warpzoneDr_willis: hmm, what about using hamachi through an SSH tunnel?07:14
Dr_williswarpzone,  sounds like ssh may do what you need.07:14
Dr_willisssh tunnles seem to be the Ultimate Tool! :)07:14
unix_infidelDr_willis: beats coding your own socket everytime you need some X user access.07:15
warpzonelol I just have no idea how to use em. However, I did find a few guides, so I believe it's time to start reading, no?07:15
unix_infidelunless you want to volunteer youreslf to create socket programs for us :P07:15
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Dr_williswell night all....07:17
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Admiral_Chicagoanyone using Konversation?07:21
ubuntui suppose that i am07:21
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu hit ctrl shift A07:22
Admiral_Chicagoyou'll be marked as away, do you get two messages?07:22
Admiral_Chicago[00:21]  [Away]  You are now marked as being away.07:22
Admiral_Chicago[00:21]  [Away]  You are now marked as being away.07:22
Admiral_Chicagolike that?07:22
ubuntunot that i saw here, nope07:22
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ubuntu./away does it though07:23
Admiral_Chicagotwo messages?07:23
ubuntunope just one07:24
Admiral_Chicagodamn, well i keep getting two07:24
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JucatoI normally only get one. Admiral_Chicago, that may be due to lag. I've had it happen to me07:25
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i have 377 ms of lag07:25
Jucatospecially since freenode has been a bit wacked lately07:25
Admiral_Chicagoso you say you can get two when you lag heavy?07:25
ubuntunone of my shortcuts appear to work though, now that i notice07:25
Admiral_Chicagoi've always had two07:26
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yes. sometimes even more than two. but only when lagging07:26
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: hmm i'm considering filing a bug, good idea or bad?07:26
Jucatoif it can be reproduced consistently by others, then it's a good idea07:27
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: did restarting help?07:30
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no but konversation crashed07:30
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Admiral_Chicago17 ms no repeat07:31
Jucatoso no more repeating /away messages?07:31
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Admiral_Chicagono i'm under 148ms and it's not repeating07:33
dan14hello all07:33
dan14has anyone had any luck getting wireless to work in edgy?07:33
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:33
Admiral_Chicagothat might be a good first step dan1407:33
dan14i have definately tried that07:34
dan14i have a problem installing the intel drivers07:34
Admiral_Chicagodid you try ndiswrapper?07:34
dan14i am running ipw1394 intel07:34
dan14no, will that work with intel?07:34
Admiral_Chicagodan14: it takes a windows driver and makes it work in linux07:35
Admiral_Chicagonot sure exactly your model07:35
dan14my exact model is intel pw349507:35
dan14i have read the linux-on-laptops tutorial as well, with not luck either07:36
dan14brb, going to do a restart, it may work07:37
ubuntucould anyone reccomend a guide for setting up dual boot? or should i be fine with the one in the distroguide?07:38
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)07:38
ubuntuthank you sir07:39
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pradalovergoogle using video07:39
pradaloverthere is a full video on it07:39
ubuntusounds good07:39
nyti have a question07:41
nytwhat will i use07:41
nytwhat o will i do, i have a file from microsoft access07:42
nytand i want it to open in openoffice07:42
Admiral_Chicago!ask > ubuntu07:42
Healotnyt: you can open it by creating a OO database; need to connect via OBDC though...07:43
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nytobdc ? can you explain it to me07:44
ubuntuummm, i think you missed your target with that !ask thing07:44
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Admiral_Chicagoopps sorry07:45
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu you should do a /nick newnickname07:45
ubuntu.nick iamdas07:45
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Admiral_Chicagocool, more distinct07:45
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nyta prompt said a driver is probably defective:(07:53
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Ayabarawhat's a good editor for writing C code in kubuntu? all I have installed is emacs.07:55
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Jucatokate, kdevelop, nano, vim(-tiny).take your pick :)07:57
Ayabaraflaccid, is it possible to get tags in kate?07:57
flaccidwhat do you mean?07:57
flaccidsyntax highlight?07:57
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seishinbyouvim highlights too, doesn't it07:57
JucatoI thought bluefish was a web page editor?07:58
pradalovercan someone help me with installing Apache using Ubuntu07:58
Ayabaraflaccid, no. tags for navigating in c code. go-to-function and complete-symbol and things like that07:59
AyabaraI use xrefactory in emacs for that purpose07:59
flaccidsorry don't know about that07:59
flaccid!apache > pradalover08:00
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AyabaraJucato, kate and kdevelop seems most to my taste of the ones you mentioned08:01
Ayabara(what a sentence..)08:01
Jucatokdevelop is really meant to be an IDE, and might have what you're looking for. Kate is an advanced text editor, but still just a text editor. (It doesn't have tag completion, afaik)08:01
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Ayabaraok. I'll give kdevelop a try.08:03
flacciddoesn't kdevelop use kate?08:03
Jucatoprobably the Kate kpart? but there would still be some features that KDevelop has that Kate wouldn't have, right?08:04
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flaccidi think so08:04
flaccidproblem is that kdevelop doesn't have a much needed feature08:05
flaccidbut kate has it08:05
flaccidopen in current instance08:05
flaccidi dislike having a 76 kdevelop windows open08:05
flaccidonly reason why i don't use it08:06
Jucatoon the other hand, I don't like that in Kate. sometimes I want to open a new window for a different session/instance.is that possible in Kate?08:06
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flaccidyes it is08:07
flaccidtake out the -U switch or -u or whatever it was08:07
flaccidthats what kdevelop doesn't support08:07
teledyn_my head is going to explode.  why does opening a doc via kfm open it in an existing kate frame?08:07
Jucatoerr. % U08:07
flaccidthats it08:08
teledyn_i found it.  edited the mime type setting08:08
flaccidprobably the , teledyn_08:08
teledyn_it had -use option set08:08
flaccidah ok08:09
Jucatoflaccid: kdevelop doesn't have a % U (no space in between) feature? aren't the % values supposed to be KDE-wide?08:09
teledyn_kate %U  is the correct setting for kate08:09
flacciddunno Jucato. the developers told me the feature won't be out until next major release of kdevelop08:10
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: 250+ i thinx08:15
Admiral_Chicagolag was 442ws08:15
Admiral_Chicagoi got two away messages08:16
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: will you confirm this happens when i put the bug in?08:19
Jucatothat it happens when the server is lagging? are you sure that it's a konversation bug though?08:20
Admiral_Chicagoit never happened to me on xchat08:20
Jucatoah. would be good if you asked in #konversation, too08:21
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I commented on the bug, but didn't set it to Confirmed yet08:33
Admiral_Chicagookay that's fine08:33
Admiral_Chicagothanks a lot08:34
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kamuihow do I modify my systemwide PATH?  it seems that content put in /etc/bash.bashrc doesn't have any impact on apps run inside of a gdm session09:01
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Admiral_Chicagokamui: i think it's ~/.profile but i'm not even sure09:02
kamuiAdmiral_Chicago: I don't think that has any impact until a login at the shell executes09:02
kamuithats why my global bashrc doesn't work either09:02
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kamuiI mean, there must be a way since /usr/bin is accessible, I just need to find out how that path is executable and add my custom sdk dir to that same path statement09:03
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Admiral_Chicagoi've only edited my ~/.profile once but somone guided me so I don't know09:03
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Admiral_ChicagoHello Malandrovjs09:49
MalandrovjsHello Admiral_chicago09:50
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Malandrovjshow Hare you <Amiral_Chicago>?09:51
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stephanmy mouse focus here is brocken, to activate a windown, i must always click the title bar, when i click into the window, the window doesn"t get the focus09:51
Admiral_Chicagoi'm well09:52
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Admiral_Chicagostephan: check your windows behavior09:52
avatarhi there. yesterday I updated to edgy - and now my system sounds in kde did not work anymore (startup, shutdown, notify, ...). But I have sound while playing music files (mp3/ogg) or videos. any hint where to search for the problem?09:52
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elementoneanybody mind helping a fellow kubuntunian out?09:53
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Admiral_Chicagoelementone: i can try09:55
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elementoneAdmiral_Chicago: im having some problems with my install09:56
Admiral_Chicagoelementone: whats the problem?09:56
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elementoneAdmiral_Chicago: using the iso image from the site.. i burned a copy of kubuntu with nero.. it loads (im using it right now) but when i try to install, i goes thru the language, keyboard setting and when it asks what kind of partitioning i would like to use, it goes into some kind of loop,09:57
unix_infidelelementone: first things first, did you do an md5sum of the iso image file?09:57
Admiral_Chicagowhat do you want the partiton to do09:57
elementonei would like to rezise my partition09:57
stephanAdmiral_Chicago: checked it several times, everything right09:58
elementonei did a cdrom file check.. it came out ok09:58
stephanrebooted, nothing, switched somthing off and on again and it seem to work!!!09:58
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MalandrovjsHallo, why I can`t find information about sound card installation?09:59
elementoneAdmiral_Chicago: any ideas?09:59
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Admiral_Chicagoelementone: what do you want to do with the partitoning?10:00
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Admiral_Chicagostephan: hmm i'm not sure how to help you then?10:00
_4strOyop yop10:00
elementoneAdmiral_Chicago: i would like to use the free space on the existing partition and install kubuntu there.10:01
unix_infidelelementone: the windows partition is taking up the entire disk?10:01
elementoneAdmiral_Chicago: yes10:01
elementoneor unix_infidel10:02
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unix_infidelelementone: did you defrag the drive first?10:02
Admiral_Chicagoelementone: the option is...use largest existing free space10:02
elementoneunix_infidel: no i dint10:02
unix_infidelelementone: stop!10:02
elementoneAdmiral_Chicago: its about 13 gigs10:03
unix_infidelbefore doing anything else, exit all programs (dont apply any changes!) and boot into windows.10:03
Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago> Do you know how can I install my sound card on kubuntu?10:03
elementoneunix_infidel: ok..10:03
unix_infideldefrag your windows partition. REMEMBER i'm on the assumtion that this windows partition is taking up the entire disk.10:03
unix_infideland that's the ONLY partition on the 13GB disk.10:03
elementoneits a 260 gig hd10:03
elementonewith about 15gb of free space10:04
Admiral_ChicagoMalandrovjs: what kind of soundcard do you have/10:04
elementonewindows IS the only partition10:04
Malandrovjsbecause I can`t find on kubuntu documentation, there is only about graphics driver10:04
unix_infidelelementone: ok, so how big do you want the linux partition(s) to be?10:04
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Admiral_Chicagoelementone: defrag is a good idea10:04
elementoneall together swap and all about 10g10:04
elementoneunix_infidel: can i do it from here? (kubuntu from cdrom)10:05
unix_infidelelementone: i'd recommend 15-20 but 10GB will be just fine.10:05
MalandrovjsI have onboard soundcard on Dell Optiplex G110:05
XVampireXdefrag is always a good idea, since microsoft is so bad at developing file systems10:05
XVampireXor at developing anything good10:05
Admiral_ChicagoMalandrovjs: it's not installed?10:05
Admiral_Chicagohow do you know it's not?10:05
elementoneunix_infidel: i can free up some more space, its just some vids and m10:05
unix_infidelelementone: well, there is risk in resizing your windows partition down to a specific size so....10:06
unix_infidelhere's the order of operations for you (this might take a second)10:06
elementoneunix_infidel: thanks10:06
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Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago> It is not installed10:06
unix_infidel1)BACKUP YOUR DATA!! (i cant stress that enough) 2) defragment and re-defragment 2x-3x times your windows partition 3)decide if you want to take the risk of resizign your windows partition ( you may lose data!) after deciding go a head and resize using the install cd and an application called qtparted.10:07
Admiral_Chicagoyes i understand that, but my question is how do you know its not installed10:07
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unix_infidelthen come back here and ask questions about partition schemes and sizes.10:07
Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago>It is onboard soundcard, Crysta WDM Audio-codec  on dell optiplex G1 its not installed10:08
elementoneunix_infidel: thanks a lot10:08
elementoneunix_infidel: i shoukd be back in the morning .. it will take a while lol10:09
unix_infidelnp, back up your stuff man.  I cant tell you how many people who get paid 6 figures to manage linux systems cry when they fail to backup.10:09
unix_infideli mean literally, tears and broken raid arrays.10:09
elementonei wil..10:09
elementoneim mostly concerned about photos10:10
elementonemp3s and movies and all that i can get them again..10:10
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elementoneand i have most of the installers10:10
elementonei think ... :-S10:10
elementonethanks alot unix_infidel10:10
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Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago>when I try to play a audio CD I don`t hear nathing10:11
Admiral_ChicagoMalandrovjs: what kind of CD is it?10:11
Admiral_Chicagois it a fresh install? what are you using to play the CD?10:11
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Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago>I`m using kaffeine player10:13
Admiral_Chicagois the CD an audio CD, it is an MP3 Cd10:13
Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago>It is audio Cd10:14
Admiral_Chicagookay, try using amarok to play the Cd first10:15
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Malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago>I get this Error in Amarok ---> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers10:17
Admiral_ChicagoMalandrovjs: wait a few minutes, amarok does that to me sometimes10:18
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peanutbanyone know why canonical is only shipping LTS cds?10:25
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Jucatobecause it is LTS (Long Term Support), which means it's the main supported release for a long time (3-5 years)10:26
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peanutbis there a way i can get the artwork to make my own cds?10:27
JucatoThe wallpaper is here: http://art.ubuntu.com/main.php?g2_itemId=7010:28
MalandrovjsAdmiral_Chicago---. Nothing10:29
Admiral_ChicagoMalandrovjs: hmm, that's really odd10:30
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: can you try to help Malandrovjs10:30
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MalandrovjsAdmiral_Chicago---- With KDE Daemon its plays but no sound coming out10:31
ermakdoes anyone use opera in kubuntu? can you test site http://series60.ru? when I browse this site everything lags and sometimes freeze....10:31
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:31
Admiral_Chicagotryy those links10:31
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: Malandrovjs is having problems with sound, maybe you can help him/her. i have to go10:32
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crimsunMalandrovjs: what's the output from ``asoundconf list''?10:33
Malandrovjs<crimsun> I don`t know, how can I see asoundconf list? I`m a newbe Man on Linux system10:34
crimsunMalandrovjs: type that command (which is in quotes) in a Konsole10:36
crimsunthen tell me the output10:36
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Malandrovjs<crimsun> there is no outpout10:38
crimsunMalandrovjs: ok. What type of sound card is it?10:39
crimsunMalandrovjs: alternately, how old is the computer, and who makes it, and what model is it?10:39
Malandrovjsit is Onboard soundcard on Dell optiplex G1 p 210:39
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canllaithHi there! I was wondering if someone could do me a favour and tell me if they have a 'Go' menu in their konqueror under Kubuntu edgy ? :)10:40
canllaithBother. Ok, thanks.10:40
JucatoGo and Window menu are disabled/hidden by default in Kubuntu10:40
canllaith*sigh* ok, thanks :)10:41
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Jucatocanllaith: you can restore them if you want10:41
canllaithNah, I don't use kubuntu, I'm just trying to write some 'generic' instructions that will work on most distributions and kubuntus 'usability improvements' tend to throw a spanner in the works.10:42
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crimsunMalandrovjs: in a Konsole, please use ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4232''10:42
canllaithGo -> Network Folders is one way of getting to the remote:/ kioslave. Not all distros put the system button on the panel like kubuntu does (which is probably a friendlier way of getting there)10:43
Malandrovjs<crimsun>is Dell Optiplex G1 onboard soundcard Crystal WDM Audio-codec10:43
canllaithAh well, thanks for the confirmation Jucato. I recently had a kubuntu user file a bug against KDE documentation over that 'go' menu so I suspected that it was disabled.10:44
Jucatoprobably. but are the entries under the Go menu consistent in all distros?also, there's the navigation panel (visible in file browser mode), which is also a friendlier way of getting there10:44
canllaith I have no idea about 'all distros'. I use the unmodified sources pulled from KDE 3.5 branch, so goodness knows.10:44
canllaithKubuntu is so popular though, I need to make sure I'm taking into account their changes for what I'm writing here.10:45
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Malandrovjs<crimsun>output, FATAL: Error inserting snd-cs4232 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4232.ko): No such device10:46
LynoureIs there a DVD ripper that does not make iso automatically (k9copy seems to, at least on Dapper) or a player that can play dvd isos?10:47
crimsunMalandrovjs: use ``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236''10:49
Malandrovjsyes I did it10:50
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crimsunMalandrovjs: you just executed the above command?10:50
crimsunMalandrovjs: note that I gave you a different command10:50
crimsunMalandrovjs: an ending _6_ versus _2_10:50
MalandrovjsI have to do sudo an ending_6_versus_2?10:51
crimsun``sudo modprobe snd-cs4236''10:51
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MalandrovjsI did the other one10:53
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Malandrovjs<crimsun> I did this one sudo modprobe snd-cs423610:54
Malandrovjsthere is no output10:54
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crimsunMalandrovjs: excellent10:56
crimsunMalandrovjs: what's the output now from ``asoundconf list''?10:56
MalandrovjsName of available sound cards: cs42366b10:57
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Malandrovjs<crimsun>Names of available sound cards: CS4236B10:58
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crimsunMalandrovjs: brilliant :)11:03
crimsunMalandrovjs: now this in a Konsole:  ``echo snd-cs4236 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules''11:04
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Malandrovjs<crimsun> i did but no output11:05
crimsunMalandrovjs: it should have echoed "snd-cs4236" back11:06
crimsunMalandrovjs: what's the output from ``tail -1 /etc/modules'' ?11:08
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Malandrovjs>crimsun< the output from tail -1 /etc/modules is snd-cs423611:09
crimsunMalandrovjs: now log out of KDE and back in11:09
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malandrovjscrimsun----- its working11:26
crimsunyes, I know11:26
malandrovjsthanks man11:26
malandrovjsHow do you know?11:27
crimsunbecause I handle alsa for *buntu.11:27
crimsunand now, I'm going to bed.11:27
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malandrovjsOk, where can find a good book to learn how to works with kubuntu or linux?11:28
harmentalhow can i add a folder into PATH?11:28
matsmkdir ?11:29
harmentali mean in the list of search paths...11:30
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harmentalquick questions regarding scripts:11:51
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harmentalwhich file extension to use?11:51
harmental(if any)11:51
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harmentalhow to run a script thats already in the PATH?11:51
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Admiral_Chicagomalandrovjs: http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1 like this one?11:56
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malandrovjs<Admiral_chicago> Thank man,11:58
Admiral_Chicagoi'm glad your problem got fixed11:58
malandrovjs>Admiral_Chicago< I will try to look for in HOlland, becouse I`m live here11:59
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Admiral_Chicagoi've seen more and more books in stores about Ubuntu12:00
Admiral_Chicagomalandrovjs: i like in Chicago, i'm just an amnesiac12:00
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Admiral_Chicagobrb going to swtich chat clients i think12:00
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malandrovjsI want to learn more about kubuntu, or linux12:01
seaLnecan anyone think of what might cause after an upgrade to feisty for my machine not to be able to find the vm root partition and therefore not boot?12:01
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seaLnelvm root12:01
malandrovjsI think I`ll never go back to Windows system12:01
matevzI'm missing update-menus on my kubuntu edgy12:01
matevzI need this to make a .deb package for menu icon, right?12:02
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Admiral_ChicagoseaLne: #ubuntu+1for foeisty support12:09
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KomiaPoikawhat package can i install to have gftp installed with ssl support?12:11
icheynemalandrovjs, this one is not Kubuntu specific, but I found it very useful and it's free. "Introduction to Linux - A Hands on Guide" (http://tldp.org/guides.html)12:14
vyomanis anybody  using this DVD burner: Philips SPD3000CC Dual layer External Portable DVD Rewriter12:15
vyomandoes it work with kubuntu, are you happy with it?12:15
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icheynemalandrovjs, pleasure :)12:18
malandrovjs<icheyne>Do you know what I can do with this outpup:Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies12:19
malandrovjsI was trying to play a avi movie on Totem12:20
malandrovjsTotem Movie Player12:20
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icheynemalandrovjs, yes go to www.ubuntuguide.org and install all the codecs12:20
icheyneI'll find you a link12:20
icheynehang on12:20
Admiral_Chicagoanyone want to show me around irssi?12:21
icheynemalandrovjs, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs12:21
icheyne!xvid | malandrovjs12:21
ubotumalandrovjs: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
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Arepiehello... after i install beryl.. and add a startup "beryl-manager" i can't login to X.. what should i do?12:26
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icheyneArepie, maybe try #ubuntu-xgl ?12:30
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Arepieanybody home?12:33
guglielfonly root12:33
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ypsilaach du schande, was geht denn hier ab12:49
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:50
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ypsilaI want a bot for #kubuntu-de12:50
Admiral_Chicagoypsila: like ubotu?12:51
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ypsilaand some more things12:51
Admiral_Chicago#ubuntu-bots is the place for you12:51
ypsilaAdmiral_Chicago: it is not a decision of only one person12:52
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Admiral_Chicagoypsila: what do you mean?12:53
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ypsilaI mean that until today there are no bots allowed, and since several weeks we discuss about it, but the meeting of the deciding people did not take place12:54
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Admiral_Chicagohmm that's unfortunet, but i really have nothing to do with bots12:56
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ypsilame not either, but it would be a nice thing for beginners12:57
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pontRandom question, Anyone have Korganizer syncing with Google Cal12:58
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ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.12:58
Admiral_Chicagoypsila: i agree, i'm just not sure how to help you12:59
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kaydo anyone knows if there is a php chat?01:00
Admiral_Chicagoi keep ubotu in a PM so I don't flood the channel, the bot is great01:00
Admiral_Chicagokay i think the command in /list01:00
Admiral_Chicagothere has to be one01:00
ypsilakay: did you search for it?01:00
kayypsila: i dont search for it i ask here now01:01
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icheynepont, no but it would be cool if I could do that. I might give it a go tonight...01:02
ypsilakay: then go on asking, if it is too difficult for you to type to words into a google-search :-D01:03
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kayypsila: hm ... sure you right01:03
Bubba_GumpMy Amarok won't play flac01:03
Bubba_Gumpany suggestions?01:03
Emessgot the flac codec?01:04
ypsilano there is no php chat! nowhere!01:04
kayypsila: you kidding?01:04
Bubba_GumpEmess: where does it show if i've got the flac codec?01:04
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^itchhello ppl01:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:05
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EmessBubba_Gump: your in kubuntu yes? just open adept and type in flac and it will tell you if its there or not01:05
Bubba_GumpEmess: k :)01:05
kayypsila: hm... thx#01:05
^itchcan anyone recomend me a software capturing imagages from my webcam, and broadcasting them ?01:05
ypsilait is absolutely unbelievable that there should be people writing about php01:05
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kayypsila: you are right01:05
Emess^itch: google01:06
ypsilasag ich doch01:06
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Bubba_GumpEmess: i have libflac++5c2, libflac7, liboogflac3 installed01:06
kayypsila: nett01:07
^itchEmess , so far i`ve tryed camorama and camsteam. But i din`t liked any of them.01:07
ponticheyne: Wicked, If you get it going.. Give me a yell :P01:07
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icheynepont, will do01:07
KomiaPoikahow do you turn off turning word reds when they don't match dictionnary in konqueror ??01:07
EmessBubba_Gump: try playing them in another progranm to see if its just amaork01:08
Bubba_Gumpok :)01:08
Emess^itch: isnt there a progrma in kubuntu that comes in teh default install that does it?01:08
^itchEmess : dunno. whitch one is it ?01:08
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Emess^itch: not sure, but it'd be under kmenu --> graphics01:09
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Emesshave you tried setitng the webcam up as a camera?01:09
EmessJucato: no, he wants to broadcast01:09
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ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.01:10
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:10
^itchEmess : no. But i`ve just set it up as a scanner and opend it with kooka ;)01:10
ypsila:-D moin jihi01:10
jihihi ypsila ^^01:11
ypsilanicht verkehrt, oder?01:11
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jihija, das ist gut01:11
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jihibesonders wenn man auch begriffe hinzufgenkann01:11
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code01:11
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ypsilaund raus01:11
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icheyne!botabuse | ypsila01:13
ubotuypsila: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:13
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Bubba_GumpEmess: doesn't play in Kaffeine01:13
Bubba_GumpEmess: the flac, that is :)01:14
EmessBubba_Gump: then its a codec problem01:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:14
tackatany idea why my Centrino Duo doesn't go beyond 1000 MHz on Kubuntu no matter how intensive job's I'm processing? :)01:14
ypsilaicheyne: it was only to demonstrate the bot, we would like to have one too in our channel #kubuntu-de01:14
EmessBubba_Gump: try removing the flac packages and then installing them again, but install with commadn line so you can check they are being setup properly01:14
tackat(should have 1667 MHz)01:15
fklinghi, ive got a question about amule (in ubuntu): my kad is firewalled, but I conifgured my rooter right (I think) and flashed iptables... e2dk works (high ID)- any ideas what could be wrong?01:15
fklingand kad turns off after some minutes01:15
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MrMeehi, umm... can anybody help me out? you see, i'm tryin to remove a rogue dll on a windows partition with this kubuntu live cd, but it tells me it can't view the drive can't find /dev/hda2 in /etc/fstab01:17
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pontmrmee, sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt01:17
pontthen look in /mnt for the file01:18
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MrMeecool. thanks ^__^01:18
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Bubba_GumpEmess: all insalled :)01:18
EmessBubba_Gump: test it now?01:18
EmessBubba_Gump: clsoe amaroK completely first, to make sure it loads new codecs01:18
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Bubba_GumpEmess: :(01:19
visik7anyone using inotify ?01:19
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MrMeehmmm.... now it's denying me permission. how do i open konqueror as root?01:20
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Jucatoit's not a good idea to do anything that involves writing (that includes deleting) on NTFS partitions01:20
malandrvjsI try to use this command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis and I get this output:sudo: gedit: command not found01:20
malandrvjsWhat can be the problem?01:21
Emessmalandrvjs: you on kubuntu? it doesnt have gedit01:21
Jucatoreplace gedit with kate01:21
EmessBubba_Gump: whats teh actual error in amaroK?01:21
Bubba_Gumpthere is none01:21
Jucatogedit = GNOME text editor, kate = KDE text editor01:21
malandrvjsyes I`m on kubuntu01:21
KomiaPoikahow do you turn off turning word reds when they don't match dictionnary in konqueror ??01:21
Bubba_Gumpit skips over the files (flac) until playlist finished01:21
EmessJucato: kate is graphic tho, sudo would need to be kdesu wouldnt it?01:21
icheyne!kdesu | MrMee01:22
ubotuMrMee: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo01:22
Jucatoer yeah. didn't notice that :)01:22
EmessBubba_Gump: does it play non-flac files?01:22
Bubba_GumpEmess: yes01:22
Bubba_GumpEmess: cd and mp301:22
Jucatomalandrvjs: use kdesu kate instead of sudo gedit01:22
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EmessBubba_Gump: int eh lover left corner of amarok, does it tell you the error for flac?01:22
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Bubba_GumpEmess: no01:23
alex1981hi guys01:23
Bubba_GumpEmess: normally an error shows a box with an 'i', this time the box does not appear01:23
EmessBubba_Gump: not really sure then, it sounds like amaroK cant read where flac is, tried converting or do you need lossless?01:23
MrMeesoooo, i type kdesu konqueror in the konsole? cuz when i do that, it tells me "kdesu: cannot connect to x server"01:23
EmessMrMee: are you in X?01:24
Bubba_GumpEmess: yes for these tracks i would like to have lossless01:24
MrMeei'm a linux newbie, so i unfortunately don't know :\01:24
EmessBubba_Gump: then im not sure, could be an Edgy problem, I can't open Kaffeine at all01:24
EmessMrMee: is it all commandline or do you have a desktop and that?01:24
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JucatoMrMee: try Alt+F2, kdesu konqueror. but again, it's not advisable to write/delete on NTFS, specially Windows partitions/drives01:25
MrMeeeven to delete one little file?01:25
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Jucatoit may, or may not mess up the filesystem. proceed at your own risk (although it may not produce any problems)01:26
MrMeeokay. gotcha. thanks01:26
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EmessMrMee: where is the file located just try sudo rm /mnt/fiellocation/filename.dll01:27
Emesswhere is it and il give you the full command01:27
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[GuS] bonjour...01:28
Emessok, sudo rm /mnt/WINDOWS/system32/dclpui.dll01:29
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malandrvjs<Emess> With kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.li I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32911/ is that normal?01:30
icheyneyes I get that01:31
icheyneit's not good, but I get it :(01:31
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icheynemalandrvjs, it might be something to do with your xorg.conf01:31
icheyneI have not been able to fix it01:31
EmessX error01:31
Emesswhy are you editing like that anyway? you can edit your sources in adept by going adept --> manage repositories01:32
Jucatoit's normal01:32
MrMeecannot remove read-only file system01:32
Jucatothose X error messages are normal01:32
EmessMrMee: thought so, linux doesnt like writing to NTFS01:33
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EmessMrMee: if you jsut want to delete the file why not jsut login to windows in safe mode with command and then delete it that way?01:33
MrMeefile's bein held on to. even when i try to get it released with process explorer, it complains.01:34
Jucatoor use your Windows CD and go to recovery mode01:34
MrMeemy only other option is to remove the file via the command prompt by unregistering it first, but i forgot how to do that01:34
JucatoMrMee: it complains even in safe mode?01:34
Emesscommandline delete wont worry about that and jsut do it anyway01:34
malandrvjs<Emess>can you see it again? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32912/01:34
MrMeeyyyyup. even in safe mode :(01:35
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EmessMrMee: get your windows cd and use Recovery mode01:35
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MrMeethat i'll try. didn't think o' that.01:35
pontMrMee: that or get a dos boot disk that can read NTFS, a couple around01:35
malandrvjshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32912/ is that normal?01:36
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Emessmalandrvjs: what are you actually trying to do?01:37
malandrvjsinstall skype01:37
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Emessah, then what are you needing root konqueror for?01:38
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Emessjust go to skype's debian page, add the repo, and sudo apt-get install skype01:38
XVampireXsudo apt-get remove --purge skype #for being so outdated01:39
Jucatojust be careful in adding extra repositories. It may or may not make it harder to update/upgrade later on.01:42
XVampireXPeople who use WoW with Cedega get banned01:42
Jucato(it may or may not also make it harder to install some apps... YMMV)01:42
XVampireXIt proves that there is hate towards Linux01:42
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EmessJucato: the only error iv seen liek that was with the beerorkid repo killing the upgrade rom dapper to edgy01:43
Bubba_GumpEmess: i've purge my flac and installed afresh and amarok still plays only mp3s01:44
JucatoEmess: some problems with the edgy upgrade were also caused by non-official repos, even the ones for beryl/compiz01:44
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ohmbrhi, how do i get a service to run at startup on ububtu?01:58
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largo24ohmbr, kubuntu or ubuntu?02:03
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ohmbrlargo24:  kubuntu02:03
largo24from the program menu click system settings > advanced > system services02:04
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ohmbrlargo24: tks...02:08
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ponthow do i go about browsing smb shares in kubuntu02:09
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:09
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pontthinking more so in konqueror02:10
pontJucato: cheers02:11
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Bubba_Gumpi uninstalled xine which also for some reason uninstalled open office??02:21
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sheftHi, how do I install realplayer?02:21
drbreendon't do it02:23
drbreenrealplayer is shit02:23
Bubba_Gumpbut sheft wants to install it02:23
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drbreenokay: sheft: do you know how to change repositories ?02:23
drbreencheft: did you enable universe ?02:23
shefthmm, how do I do that? i want to install it so it works with my firefox.02:24
Jucato!info realplayer02:24
ubotuPackage realplayer does not exist in any distro I know02:24
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gnomefreakwait a min02:25
gnomefreaki uploade da deb for it lastweek02:25
largo24sheft, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy02:26
gnomefreakhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods?action=show&redirect=RealPlayerInstallationMethods has a realplayer deb02:27
Jucatognomefreak: do you know when edgy-commercial will be available? if it ever will02:27
gnomefreaknot sure it will be02:27
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gnomefreaki havent heard. thats why im uploading my .dbes for packages you cant get  :)02:27
Jucatoso what are the alternative ways to get Opera and RealPlayer?02:27
gnomefreakJucato: i just gave you the link to realplayer 10 for edgy02:28
gnomefreakand feisty it works on atm02:28
Jucatothanks for that :)02:28
Jucatoalthough... Kaffeine reads .rm and .rmvb just fine...02:28
gnomefreakgive me a few days i have to work out a password issue on my DB and i will upload opera and other .debs i have02:28
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ka_1900i have a question .!02:29
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:29
Bubba_Gumpka_1900: ?02:29
ka_1900my laptop (hp dv4394) after installing kubunto on it02:29
ka_1900when i use ctrl+alt +f1 to go to the shell ,. the screen goes scrambled and nothing usefull appears02:30
ka_1900no prompt or smthing ,.02:30
ka_1900but the gui is working fine02:30
Bubba_Gumpno grub?02:30
ka_1900no no ,. it is not about grub02:31
ka_1900it is when im on kde .. and switches by ctrl+alt +f1 ,. the shell is not appearing ,.02:31
Bubba_Gumpneed you have shell only?02:31
ka_1900although the console is working fine under KDE02:32
Bubba_Gumpcan you use konsole?02:32
Bubba_Gumpi have the same problem02:32
Bubba_Gumpwhich version are you running, breezy dapper edgy ?02:32
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ScarFreewillhow do i update my ati drivers?02:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:33
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Bubba_Gumpka_1900: seems a fair few things have yet to work right in edgy02:34
Bubba_Gumpka_1900: on this one i don't know02:34
Bubba_Gumpanyone know ?02:34
ka_1900so u recommend me to go try dapper ?02:34
mc__ka_1900: that is a known nvidia bug afaik02:34
ka_1900no my vga card is ATI02:35
mc__ka_1900: have you tried installing the latest drivers?02:35
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ka_1900mc__ ,. yup02:37
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ka_1900but no progress02:38
ScarFreewilli have dapper and the latest is 7.0.0-8.25.18+ (ati driver) do i need to upgrade to edgy if i want new drivers?02:38
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ScarFreewill8.28.8 is out on edgy02:38
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ka_1900ok guys ,. thanks for ur interest02:40
ScarFreewilli have dapper and the latest is 7.0.0-8.25.18+ (ati driver) do i need to upgrade to edgy if i want new drivers? 8.28.8 is out on edgy?02:41
gnomefreakScarFreewill: yes unles syou manully install them from the ati site02:42
ScarFreewillgomefreak where can i find a how to for that? its big file hey like 50mb?02:43
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gnomefreak!ati | ScarFreewill02:43
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Jucatoubotu: ping02:44
ScarFreewillwheres the bot? lol02:44
gnomefreakim asking right now02:45
gnomefreakhes not working in any channel atm that i can see02:45
ScarFreewillmaybe i broke it when it typed ati! and not !ati02:45
Jucatonah, he's not that sensitive02:46
gnomefreakseems both bots are dead02:46
gnomefreakati! doesnt do anything02:46
gnomefreaki informed Sevea^s of it. ill stick around for an answer02:47
Jucatolol @ the attempt not to "notify" Sevea^s :P02:48
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Jucatobots are down02:48
Jucatothey seem to be taking a break02:48
hyper_chI need my nvidia to work :(02:48
mc__hyper_ch: tell us your problem02:49
Jucatosome people can do better than bots :P02:49
hyper_chmc__: well, got a nvidia geforce2 GTS/Pro and installed the nvidia legacy driver but seems not to work properly... glxinfo returns errors02:49
hyper_chglxgears produces errors02:49
hyper_chhowever the nvidia boot-up image appears02:50
hyper_ch<-- running edgy02:50
gnomefreakhyper_ch: than it works02:50
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ScarFreewillhyper_ch, i loved my geforce2 :) it rocked02:50
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gnomefreakhyper_ch: where does it stop working? kdm? or after login02:50
hyper_chhyper@xubi:~$ glxgears02:50
hyper_chXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".02:50
hyper_chError: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual02:50
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mc__hyper_ch: show us your xorg.conf02:50
Jucatopastebin please02:51
Jucatohyper_ch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ <-- use that to show your xorg.conf02:51
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mc__hyper_ch: do you have a line Load "glx" ind your Module Section?02:52
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hyper_chmc__: http://www.roleplayer.org/xorg.conf02:52
Jucatowow. his own pastebin?  :P02:52
hyper_chnot pastebin02:52
hyper_chscp upload to my server02:52
flo_Hi! Is there a way to make konqueror sort these items (folder 1,folder 2, folder 10) in this order (folder 1,folder 2, folder 10) instead of (folder 1, folder 10, folder 2) ?02:52
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Jucatoah nice hehehe :)02:52
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Jucatoflo_: folder 01, folder 02, folder 03, ... folder 1002:53
hyper_chmc__: the load glx is in the module section02:53
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flo_Jucato: Yes but i often read remote folders that i cannot edit. so i was looking for a different solution02:54
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Jucatounfortunately, I don't know of any other solution :(02:54
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hyper_chwhy does:  glxinfo > glxinfo.txt    not work?02:57
hyper_chJucato / mc__ :found anything?02:58
mc__hyper_ch: btw:the difference between debian and ubuntu isnt that big02:58
mc__hyper_ch: its nearly the same02:58
ypsilahyper_ch: dancing on different tables ;-)02:58
Jucatohyper_ch: nope :(02:58
hyper_chmc__: yes but I think to operate a server a pure stable debian is better :)02:58
hyper_chypsila: hi honey02:58
mc__hyper_ch: it is,i use also debian for my server02:59
mc__hyper_ch: pastes us your xorg log please02:59
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mc__hyper_ch:  its located in  /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:59
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hyper_chmc__: http://www.roleplayer.org/Xorg.0.log03:00
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Jucatobots are back :)03:02
Jucatoubotu: ping03:02
ScarFreewilluhm about that...03:02
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mc__hyper_ch: the bot is down03:02
Jucatohm.. still warming up03:03
hyper_chok :)03:03
hyper_ch<-- sometimes a bit impatient :)03:03
ScarFreewill!ati | ScarFreewill03:03
ubotuping: network unreachable03:03
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ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:04
mc__hyper_ch: i think you didt not install you driver correctly03:04
hyper_chmc__: hmmm, start over from scratch?03:04
ubotuScarFreewill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:04
mc__hyper_ch: it seams like its still loading the glx module from the nv driver03:04
hyper_chmc__: how did you see that? the nvidia-glx mod is not installed03:05
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ypsilamc__: warum unterhaltet ihr euch nicht auf #kubuntu-de? ;-)03:06
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malandrvjshow can copy something to mounted windows partition?03:07
instructorWhat file system03:07
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:08
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ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:08
mc__ypsila: is usner englisch so schlecht? ^^03:08
malandrvjsand to copy something to mounted partition?03:09
instructormalandrvjs: Second link03:11
malandrvjsbut there is not documentation for kubuntu? becouse I was trying alot of thing from ubuntu documentation on kubuntu and some of them are diferent03:11
ypsilamc__: not at all, but some things will work better in your motherlanguage, and those who do not understand englisch get a little help too ;-)03:11
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ubuntulinux boot partition can be logical partition?I can boot from logical partition.03:12
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visik7ubuntu: yes you can03:13
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ubuntucan I test grub install ok?03:14
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instructormalandrvjs: Where are they different?03:16
yetiany native english speakers in here :) ? i'd like to know what "on the night of 6 Dec" means - does it mean the night from 6-7 Dec or the night from 5-6 Dec?03:16
mc__yeti: the night form 6-703:17
Tm_Tyeti: I'm not native but I think it's 6-703:17
Tm_THmh, I'm too old for this.03:17
ypsilayeti: Nikolaus!03:18
mnoiron the night of xx means the night that starts (darkness) on xxx03:18
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instructoryeti: 6-703:19
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scottIn Kubuntu Dapper, I want to allow another user (my daughter) to mount/unmount and otherwise have access to a USB flash drive. Which group do I need to add her to?03:20
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_abbenormalwhere can i find a daily cd iso with the newest kernel on it like 2.6.19-rc3 or newer03:22
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KomiaPoikascott: it will auto mount the key in kde if you just plug it in and click mount device03:22
KomiaPoikayou only need root to unmount it03:22
KomiaPoikamay be she can remove the key the dirty way and it will still work03:23
scottKomiaPoika: it does for my username, but it doesn't for her. I need to check my wife's account and see if it works there.  Will report back with error message in a moment.03:23
ypsilaGerman speaking people are welcome to #kubuntu-de03:23
instructorscott: What groups are you in?03:23
instructorHooray we did it again! :)03:25
scottscott adm cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin family03:25
scottkate : kate disk cdrom floppy plugdev admin family03:25
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scottI added her to plugdev, thinking that might be it.  And then even admin (althought I didn't really want to).03:26
scottStill doesn't work.03:26
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instructorlogged her out and back in?03:27
crustyhallo there!     any halp about kubuntu and scanner agfa 1212p??????03:27
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners03:27
scottNope.  Maybe that's what's missing.03:27
crustythanks ubutu03:27
crustyi think i know you already03:27
malandrvjsI`m trying to use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse instructions to mount windows partition but I get erro like: sudo: ntfs: command not found03:28
crustyunlikelly my line went down last time03:28
Tm_Tmalandrvjs: Ehm.03:28
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse03:28
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ylz_someone by chance tried to install edgy-server-x64 on a SunFire X4100?03:29
ypsilaherbert: wie wre es mit #kubuntu-de ? ;-)03:30
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instructorTm_T: he can mount he just wants to write into it03:31
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instructormalandrvjs: Oh I should point out that NTFS writing is dangerous :03:31
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instructorTm_T: shouldn't that page be updated?03:33
ubuntu__i feel stupid for forgetting this, and not knowing where i learned it, but how do i get a list of proccesses that are running and there pid?03:33
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instructordon't we have ntfs3g now?03:33
instructorubuntu__: What do you want it for?03:33
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171003:33
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:33
instructorThose are all dapper :-(03:34
ubuntu__to manualy kill a preccess that freezez03:34
ubuntulinux boot partition can be logical partition?I can boot from logical partition us grub.03:34
instructorubuntu__: try ps aux | grep <process name>03:34
ubuntulinux boot partition can be logical partition?I can boot from logical partition use grub.03:34
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instructorubuntu: Not that I know of :(03:34
ubuntu__ah, ps that's what i'm looking for03:34
instructorI could be ignorant though03:34
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instructorubuntu__: You could also use top :)03:35
instructorI like konversation03:35
Jucatoubuntu: yes. it can be any kind of partition. it's recommended to keep the /boot directory/partition within the first 8GBs of the hard drive, though03:35
instructorI just realised tab completion puts the person who spoke last at the top of the list03:35
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Jucatoubuntu__: you can also use Ctrl+Esc (KSysGuard)03:35
instructorso I can answer ubuntu__ and ubuntu with speed and ease :)03:36
ubuntujucato:you have tried?03:36
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Jucatoor if it's just a graphical app, you can use Ctrl+Alt+Esc to use xkill03:36
ubuntu__ksysgaurd only closes proccesses in my user name03:36
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ubuntu__i want to shut down a root proccess03:36
Jucatoubuntu__: ah, yeah, "sudo killall <processname>" or "kdesu ksysguard"03:36
Jucatoubuntu: yes. I've tried it before03:37
instructorDoes anyone read commit-digest?03:37
JohnFluxubuntu_: I think I added support for killing root processes to ksysguard in the latest kde3 release03:37
JohnFluxubuntu_ i can't remember if I back ported it from kde403:37
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JucatoJohnFlux: even without root privileges?03:38
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JohnFluxJucato: it should prompt for the root password03:38
Jucatoah let me try :)03:38
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Jucatohm.. what's a nice process to kill..03:39
napa-How can I make my internet access available automatically everytime I start Kubuntu - At the moment I have to go to system settings, choose network configuration , and disable/enable my connection to get IP  from DHCP03:39
malandrvjsI can see the windows partition but I can`t copy a file to windows partition03:39
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ubuntumy boot partition is position after  10G and my linux system partition is the last logical partition.I can boot it using grub.03:39
JucatoJohnFlux: nope, doesn't work in KDE 3.5.5, I think03:40
_abbenormalenable the network at boot time03:40
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ubuntui cann't boot it using grub.03:40
JohnFluxJucato: hmm :/03:40
instructor!ntfs3g | malandrvjs03:40
Jucatoubuntu: are you getting a GRUB 18 error?03:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:40
instructor!fuse | malandrvjs03:40
ubotumalandrvjs: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:40
Jucatoinstructor: it's ntfs-3g03:40
instructor!ntfs-3g | malandrvjs03:40
ubotumalandrvjs: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171003:40
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scottinstructor: thanks for the help.  Logging my daughters account out and back in allowed the USB to work.  Apparently I had already made the appropriate changes.  Just didn't realize that it required the restart of the session.03:41
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instructorscott: Let that be a lesson to you :)03:41
gnomefreakJohnFlux: kdesu ksysguard propmts for password her03:41
instructorscott: going to take her off of admin now?03:41
gnomefreake/me on feisty atm03:41
scottthanks also KomiaPoika...03:41
ubuntuwhy use ntfsfuse,I use the ntfs driver with kenel,and it works ok.03:42
scottinstructor: yes.  Some things I don't want her to be able to do :-)03:42
instructorscott:  your entire family uses LInux?03:42
Jucatognomefreak: I think what JohnFlux meant was that ksysguard will prompt you for the password if you try to kill a root process when ksysguard is launched by a normal user03:42
Jucato(did that even make sense?)03:42
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gnomefreakyes let me try03:42
scottYou bet.  My four year old learned his alphabet when he was two on a linux game.03:42
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instructorHa ha :-) tuxteach!03:43
JohnFluxscott: heh, I used a spectrum in my tme :-)03:43
ylz_scott: gcompris?03:43
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scottThat was one of them, ylz_.03:44
gnomefreakyeah kill -p <pid> doesnt prompt for password and can be done without sudo03:44
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scottGotta go. Thanks all.03:44
gnomefreakoops kill -9 <pid>03:44
instructorscott: No problem come on back!03:44
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_abbenormalhas edty been released with the 2.6.19-rc3 or newer kernel yet not finding any newer cd images other than oct of 200603:47
JucatoEdgy has 2.6.1703:48
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damg_hmm, is it normal that kopete doesn't show russian fonts in incoming messages?03:48
bitzeroinstallin kubuntu..03:48
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anoiteoh feth !!! bonjour03:49
_abbenormalok right im looking for a release daily of kubuntu with the 2.6.19-rc3 or newer kernel is there anyone that knows where i can d/l them from03:49
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anoitediantre un francais03:51
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ypsilaanoite: tu sais qu'il existe un #kubuntu-fr ?03:53
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:53
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anoiteypsila: j'ai un petit pblm03:53
anoiteoui oui merci03:53
anoitej'y suis03:53
anoitemon pblm :03:54
anoite nvidia api mismatch 1.0-8776 1.0-977403:54
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anoite nvidia api mismatch 1.0-8776 1.0-9774 sur edgy oui merci feth :)03:55
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke03:55
instructor_abbenormal: ask in #ubuntu+103:55
_abbenormalthank you03:56
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Tm_Tanoite: Please use english here.03:57
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instructorHi nikkiana04:03
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instructornikkiana: How are you this week?04:05
nikkianainstructor: not too shabby.04:06
instructorAlmost not sleepy :)04:06
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Luminaxooo nice04:07
Luminaxdidn't know networking was this snap with kubuntu04:07
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ptifethSo, I came here with anoite to see what's wrong with is nvidia config : he gots '' nvidia api mismatch 1.0-8776 1.0-9774'' with nvidia-glx kubuntu stock drivers04:08
ptifethhe gets*04:08
ptifethwhith *his :)04:09
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ypsilaptifeth: are this the version numbers of the drivers?04:10
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ptifethypsila: he's gonna tell us. Anyhow I believe he's got an up to date kubuntu...04:10
ptifethanoite ? away ?04:10
SortOfThingptifeth: why don't you ask on a french channel? (*joking*)04:11
ypsilaptifeth: he should use the latest, in this case the 977404:11
Jucatoafaik, Kubuntu Edgy comes only with 8776 driver (nvidia-glx)04:11
instructornikkiana: Hows' your site?04:11
DjDarkmanhy ,can someone help me with TTS?can someone tell me how to install all speech sytisizers?04:11
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ptifeththerefore the mismatch  nvidia api mismatch 1.0-8776 1.0-9774...04:12
ypsilaJucato: but you can update this via the nvidia-site04:12
dennisterhello all04:12
ptifethypsila: the trouble is, when using the nvidia site, that you need to recompile for every kernel update04:12
Jucatoypsila: I was referring to the default one that comes with Kubuntu. the mismatch probably comes from the fact that the restricted modules that come with Kubuntu only provides for 8776 driver04:13
ptifethJucato: I believe you're04:13
dennistermy problem de jeur is that I'm changing ownership/permissions of certain files, and then when I reboot, they revert back to the way they were before the mods04:15
ypsilayes, I agree, but you have to blacklist the restricted modules04:15
anoiteversion nvidia-glx 1.0.8776+
dennisterhow do I make the ownership/perms changes stick, and become permanent?04:15
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anoiteit's the last one04:16
ptifethypsila: what's the prupose of installing them, then ? (sorry i'm new tu (k)ubuntu)04:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:16
ypsilathx hyper_ch do you still have the french wiki?04:17
hyper_chypsila: not really... but I did a google search for "nVidia GeForce2 GTS ubuntu"04:18
ypsilaanoite: did you search for a french wiki?04:18
hyper_chon the first or second page there was a howto in french04:18
ptifeth-of course with anoite we first tried the french howto- :)04:18
dennisterthese are devices that I need to make accessible to all, and it doesn't help if changes get undone at the next reboot04:19
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ypsilaptifeth: and anoite the try the DriverHowto linked above04:19
ptifethdennister: I would try tweecking udev rules04:20
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:20
hyper_chsi a va mieux pour vous04:20
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ptifethhyper_ch: we're there already, thanks anyway :)04:20
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instructorDjDarkman: What?04:20
ptifeth(quite a sloppy channel, maybe it's working hours)04:20
dennisterthis net-splitting is driving me crazy...don't know if i'm missing answers to my questions04:21
hyper_chEst-ce que vous avez des cartes nVidia avec legacy?04:21
instructordennister: what are you changing the permissions on?04:21
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anoiteVGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0393 (rev a1)04:23
dennisterdid i miss something during the net-splitting?04:23
ypsiladennister:  no04:23
Jucatowhat netsplit?04:24
Jucatothere was none :)04:24
instructordennister: what are you changing the permissions on?04:24
dennisterty; netsplitting is when there is a long pause and no answer from the irc server04:24
dennisterthe lirc devices04:24
instructordennister: No that's lag04:24
ptifethdennister: that's timeout04:24
instructorYou are changing the permissions on device files?04:24
dennisterheheheh...different explanations04:24
dennisteryes, the lirc devices need to be accessible to all04:25
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dennisterI change them, reboot, and they've reverted to non-executables with only root having perm to read them04:26
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instructordennister: Why are you changing them?04:28
dennisteri was told to check/change them by superm1 in his reply to one of my forum posts04:29
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dennistermy remote isn't changing the channels on my external STB/tuner properly04:30
khirrhow can i change mi xmms skin? i've coppied all in skin folder, but how i chose them?04:30
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hyper_chanoite: a marche maintenant avec nVidia?04:30
groutsome of the letters in terminal are coliding, mostly M's and W's anyone know why this would happen?04:31
dennisterhyper_ch: !francais04:31
ptifethhyper_ch: not quite...04:31
Hawkwindkhirr: Alt-S or right click on Xmms -> Options -> Skin Browser04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about francais - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
hyper_chptifeth: what does not work?04:31
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:31
||arifaXHi, why can't I see nothing more than my homefolder in all file open dialogs in edgy? Is this a setting somewhere?04:31
dennisterty Hawkwind :)04:32
ptifethhyper_ch: the kubuntu official drivers04:32
Hawkwind!hidden | ||arifaX04:32
ubotu||arifaX: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles04:32
ptifethhyper_ch: we're not interesting in getting the absolute latest nvidia blobs04:32
hyper_chptifeth: are you sure you can use the "normal" drivers and that you don't have to use the legacy drivers?04:32
||arifaXubotu: thank you very much04:32
ptifethhyper_ch: anoite's PC is 2 month old...04:32
dennisterHawkwind: how do i make perm changes permanent on devices? ie my lirc...they keep reverting back to b4 the change after reboot04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thank you very much - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
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hyper_chptifeth: are those cards actually supported by the drivers? can you give me model name?04:33
instructorkhirr: Alt+S04:33
ptifethhyper_ch: btw it's a "API mismatch" error04:33
Hawkwinddennister: chmod or chown should do it unless something is told to overwrite that04:33
dennisteri thought i'd finally almost-mastered perms :(04:33
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ptifethanoite: do you have the model name ?04:34
hyper_chptifeth: what model is it exactely?04:34
ptifethlspci says 039304:34
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hyper_chptifeth: please post everthing from this output:   lspci | grep nVidia04:35
arriespxao gente04:35
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ptifethhyper_ch: see higher : VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0393 (rev a1)04:35
ptifethgeforce 7300 GT04:36
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dennisterHawkwind: i've done the chowning and chmoding, but something must be telling it to overwrite it04:36
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dennisterI have no idea what04:36
ptifethdennister: do you have udev ? udev daemon may manage your permission according to your will04:37
hyper_chptifeth: edgy? dapper?04:37
ptifethhyper_ch: edgy04:37
instructordennister: Device files are fake files04:37
NapaI get following error message: You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.!! But no programs are running as I can see04:37
instructordennister: You can delete the entire folder they will be recreated on reboot04:38
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dennisterijm u di gave udev...guess I don't know how to use that yet...that will make perms changes permanent?04:38
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dennisteroops...*I do have udev04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
ptifethNapa: lsof /var/lib/dpkg/04:39
instructor!adept fix04:39
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ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB04:39
groutsome of the letters in terminal are coliding, mostly M's and W's anyone know why this would happen?04:39
dennistersomething new to learn, lol04:39
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lorannewbie question: how do i replace grub?04:40
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:40
ptifethdennister: udev creates nodes in /dev according to rules you specify. There is ahowto somewhere on the net04:40
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Napaptifeth: nothing happend .. and I'm still get the same message when I try to enter Adept04:41
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dennisterptifeth: ty...i will look it up...already searched in ubuntu documentation04:41
ptifethNapa: lsof is going to tell you what processes use the directory. You might want to try lsof /var/lib/dpkg//* instead04:41
Napa !adept fix04:41
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB04:41
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Napaptifeth: That did not work either04:42
fdoving!adept crash fix04:42
ubotuIf adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:42
ptifethdennister: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html04:42
outlinenl'ers hier??04:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:42
fdoving!nl | outline04:42
ubotuoutline: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl04:42
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Napaubotu helped me :D04:43
ptifethNapa: then I am sorry but cannot help you much apart that a reboot would be the quick n dirty solution04:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about helped me :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:43
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Napaptifeth: this one solved the problem: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a04:43
dennisterty again ptifeth04:43
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ptifethNapa: quick and clean :)04:44
hyper_chptifeth: I don't see the 7300 GT on the supported list... only GE and GS04:44
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ptifethhyper_ch: kind of a shame :(04:45
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hyper_chptifeth: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html04:45
UQlevhello! did anyone have a problem viewing faxes (standard resolution) in tiff format? My kfax distort the page04:45
hyper_chptifeth: how did you try to install the card?04:45
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ptifethhyper_ch: anoite followed the howto's guidelines04:46
ptifethhyper_ch: he had it working in dapper, but never with edgy04:46
Napawhat is the kubuntu command similar do DEB in Ubuntu?04:46
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hyper_chptifeth: strange... well, I'm not an expert myself04:47
instructorIs Kubuntu's screensaver still broken?04:47
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ptifethhyper_ch: but you're helping, that's something already :)04:47
hyper_ch<-- linux noob04:48
hyper_chptifeth: I just like to pretend knowing lots :)04:48
dennisterbye for now pps...the learning never stops :)04:48
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instructorhyper_ch: you'll do well in Linux :)04:49
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hyper_chptifeth: howabout removing all of the nvidia stuff, restoring the original xorg.conf and then start over?04:49
ptifethhyper_ch: that's the current config04:50
hyper_chptifeth: well, are all nvidia packages removed?04:50
ptifethhyper_ch: not sure... quite a good ideau to purge thel04:50
hyper_chptifeth: and then:  sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) nvidia-glx04:51
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harmentalwhy does the menus or certain apps (xemacs for instance) look so aswfully ugly in linux?04:52
Tm_Tharmental: ?04:53
hyper_chharmental: beauty lies in the eye of the watcher04:53
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box04:53
hyper_chnot lies but lays04:53
Tm_Tharmental: mind to take a shot so I see what you see?04:53
harmentalTm_T: ok...04:53
Jucato"lies" was correct04:53
Tm_Thyper_ch: My eyes usually lies.04:54
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hyper_chTm_T: they don't lie... they just aren't quick enough :)04:54
Tm_TWhen I look myself in the mirror, I often scream to my eyes "Liar!!".04:55
Tm_TBecause I can't be that good looking.04:55
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hyper_chTm_T: you should not look at the poster of Brad Pitt and think it's a mirror04:56
Tm_Thyper_ch: Hrr, why him?!04:56
NapaE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?    - What is this?04:56
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hyper_chTm_T: because I look like him *gggg*04:56
hyper_chNapa: what did you do?04:56
Napahyper_ch: : tried to install Wine04:57
harmentalok..where can i post the screenshots04:57
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Tm_TNapa: That means you have multiple apt applications running.04:57
Jucato!adept crash fix | Napa04:57
ubotuNapa: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:57
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ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:58
hyper_ch!nVidia | hyper_ch04:58
ubotuhyper_ch: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:58
Tm_TDunno if that still takes images.04:58
hyper_chthat's cool... didn't know about the piping04:58
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instructorI'm on Edgy and too lazy to compile marble04:59
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hyper_chinstructor: you could someone else let it compile for you :)04:59
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instructorThen what would be the fun of compilling it05:00
harmentalTm_T: i can only insert text05:00
Tm_Tharmental: Then imageshack.us, but I think I already know what you mean.05:00
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ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:01
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DjDarkmancan someone tell me how to install the Hadifix tts syntesizer?05:02
harmentalhere you go05:02
Dr_willis!info hadifix05:02
ubotuPackage hadifix does not exist in any distro I know05:02
Dr_willis!find hadifix05:02
ubotuPackage/file hadifix does not exist in edgy05:02
Dr_willisDjDarkman,  if its not in the repos. You may need to use the source and compile it.05:03
Napa deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main   <--- Isn't this an consoll command?05:03
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Dr_willisNapa,  No.05:03
Dr_willisthats a 'source/repo' entry for the apt.sources file05:03
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:03
harmentalTm_T: another one...05:03
harmentaldo u know what i mean?05:04
Tm_TThat's normal for those apps.05:04
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Tm_Tharmental: Think it this way, if you move some ye'old Win95 app to WinXP, it's as ugly as it was back then.05:05
harmentalTm_T: actually that was my question05:05
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Tm_THeh, I thought something else.05:05
Tm_Troot_: Errr.05:05
instructorDjDarkman: What's that?05:05
harmentalxemacs looks much better on windows than it does on linux...thats a fact05:05
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DjDarkmanit`s a Text To Speech synthesizer05:06
instructorNapa: need some help05:06
instructorDjDarkman: ah need drivers?05:06
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instructornapa: Or not :(05:06
DjDarkmanno ,it`s just a TTS system05:07
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instructorDjDarkman: ah right software :). Do you have a package for it?05:07
DjDarkmanno ,I would need it ,because it has hungarian language too05:08
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instructorDjDarkman: Where did you hear/findout about/use hadifix?05:10
DjDarkmanwhen I try to add hungarian ,it shows me that I need Hadifix05:11
DjDarkmanI`m triing to compile it05:11
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instructorDjDarkman: Let us know how it goes05:17
DjDarkmanok ,I`m trying to learn how it works myself ,it would be wounderfull if they would be included in the ubuntu repos ,TTS is a very usefull thing05:18
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Dr_willislots of things could be usefull if included in the repos. :)05:21
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:23
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Stardogamarok wont play  .ogg files... why?05:24
Tm_TStardog: It should just fine.05:24
Stardogso there maybe some filedamage then?05:25
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DinkAnyone successful in installing any version of ubuntu on the ps3 ?? Was trying and looks like kboot only likes FC05:26
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ptifethsee you05:27
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Dr_willisDink,  seen an artical of ps3+linux being sold on ebay allready.05:28
Dr_willisNot that i have a ps3..  or plan on gettin gone...05:28
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DjDarkmanI`ve read the help files on additional languages for KTTSD ,and it gave me this link http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola/mbrtts.html05:31
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Dinki  know YDL is coming out with one05:32
Dinkand you can install FC on it05:32
DinkJust waiting for someone to find a way to do ubuntu05:33
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instructorDjDarkman: Send in a request05:36
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instructorStardog: grab one for the ~/Examples folder and see what it does05:36
instructorDink: how does that work?05:37
instructorare you overwriting the Sony Os?05:37
Dinkno there is an option to install "other os"05:37
Dinkits like a dual boot05:37
DinkRight now FC5 works with it05:38
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instructorThat's crazy05:38
mhterresRiddell: hi05:38
instructorWhat does Kubuntu do?05:38
Dinki think people at gentoo working on one... and its been said that any PPC version should work and i know ubuntu has one05:38
instructorWhere does Kubuntu fail?05:39
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Dinkwhat you mean ?05:39
mhterresRiddell: if you had some time, I'd like to talk to you05:39
delightKonqueror in edgy is not showing info pages05:39
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Dinkas in installing kubuntu on the ps3 ?05:40
delightlike info:chmod is not working for me05:40
delightis that a known problem ?05:40
Riddellmhterres: ok05:40
delighti got the info pages installed cause in terminal i can "info chmod" or "info emacs" etc.05:40
Dinkwell right now you need to use kboot to install your OS and I cant figure out how to install kubuntu with it.. From the looks you can only do FC05:40
delightbut info:XYZ is not working in konqueror for me in edgy05:41
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mhterresRiddell: if you won't mind, in private ok ? I'll send you a msg, and when you got time, answer me please05:41
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instructorDink: so there isn't an option for Kubuntu??05:41
Riddellmhterres: if it's necessary to be private yes05:41
mhterresRiddell: It's not a specific Kubuntu issue, it's an invite05:42
instructorDink: That's far more sucky than I thought it would be :(05:42
Dinkim sure there is a way but im not that smart ;)05:42
ctx144k_hello all, im new in kubuntu6.10 (but have used gnu/linux many years)...  so my question:  konqueror shows only some directorys if i go tto /05:43
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instructorDink: Someone was doing it earlier05:43
ctx144k_the complete root-path is invisible...  how is knoqueror known what directory is invisible, and what is visible05:43
DjDarkmaninstructor: I`m trying to find out how these things work ,where can I send a request?05:44
DinkYou remember who ?05:44
ctx144k_i mounted a own partition to /Own  - that issnt invisible05:44
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ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/05:44
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instructor!hidden | ctx144k_05:45
ubotuctx144k_: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles05:45
instructorDink: They just logged out05:45
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instructorDink: It doesn't have any DVR stuff does it? :(05:46
ctx144k_ubotu, ok ill look for it... the idea is perhaps great...  dont know yet... but must first understand how does it work05:47
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Dr_willisctx144k_,  yourefering to the hidden dirs in / ?05:48
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles05:48
ctx144k_sorry my english issent good, what u mean?05:49
typecastinstructor: thank you for the link. i have been looking for days for an explanation for the strange behavior of my kde-apps :D05:49
Dr_willisheh ok. bot allready showed ya. :) its a nice feature for people/users that dont need to get confused by /etc /usr  whatever05:49
instructortypecast: Should have asked :)05:49
ctx144k_yes, its nice05:49
instructorDr_willis: terrible for people who expect them there :)05:49
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Dr_willisctx144k_,  its just a feature to hide some of the system dirs from the file/dialogs/addressbars. you can still enter the full address05:49
typecastinstructor: yes :)05:49
ctx144k_bnut i must understand how its works05:49
Dr_willisso the fact that /etc/ is hidden dont matter much to me. I just type /etc/whatever in the address bar05:50
ctx144k_cause i cant understand cause "sudo mkdir /TEST " isbe shown in kde05:50
instructorctx144k_: It has a file called .hidden05:50
instructorctx144k_: it only works for graphical apps like konqueror05:50
ctx144k_where is the file?05:50
instructorin / I think05:50
ctx144k_ahh nice :)05:51
ctx144k_merci :)05:51
Dr_willisyes its in  /.hidden the bot url tells ya about it05:51
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ctx144k_yes i understand :)05:51
ctx144k_a nice idea05:51
ctx144k_what i need as poweruser seeing /etc if im a user? :)05:51
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Dr_willisIts not a 'per user' setting.05:52
ctx144k_if i need that i use "konsole" and ls/vim *g05:52
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Dr_willisof coruse a real power user knows to just  type in /etc/whatever in the file dialogs/address bars. :)05:52
Dr_willisso it all depends on what ya want to do.05:52
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ctx144k_yes, but a real poweruser diont use kde for go inthat :)05:54
harmentalhow do i set the real root bakground?05:54
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fjellrev1Anyone here have any problems with the color sampler? especially with the one within the wallpaper selector for the desktop..when I sample something it allways turns out darkblue06:08
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raulalguien podria ayudarme, deseo tener aceleracion grafica06:10
raulmi trarjeta video es sis 650 651 m65006:10
raulaceleracion grafica 3d06:11
malandrvjshow can share a file on network with kubuntu06:11
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_Kiruwamalandrvjs: what operating system are you trying to share it with?06:18
Luminaxsay... does kubuntu automatically config the samba server ?06:18
LuminaxI don't remember networking it with my windows machine06:18
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_Kiruwamalandrvjs: fish (with an ssh server), or samba (for windows) usually work pretty well06:18
_KiruwaLuminax: hmm... apparently it is enabled06:20
_Kiruwathe control panel "Sharing" doesn't seem to be working for me though :/06:20
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LuminaxI think I configured the folder sharing in my windows machine incorrectly06:21
Luminaxsome folders are asking for password06:21
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guptawhen I insert a new removeable hardware(pen drive/camcorder/harddisk)06:22
guptahow do I know which /dev/* device it pints at06:22
guptalike I discovered my pendrive is at /dev/sda106:22
guptahow to know where the camcorder will pe present06:23
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guptalsusb gives > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:30a5 Canon, Inc.06:23
instructor_Kiruwa: You have to install Samba to get sharing to work06:24
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nidal Hi all , I have installed lives_0.9.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb on kubuntu dapper and when I try to start it from the console using the command "lives" its not starting ; it just hangs and gives some X error messages like follows06:24
nidal X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16806:25
nidalFailed to open device06:25
nidalanybody, any idea ? please06:25
instructor Wat's lives?06:25
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nidalits a video editing software in linux06:26
nidala FLOSS one06:26
XeroCurveHello all (noob)06:26
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XeroCurveAre there any modem experts in the room =)06:28
CVirusXeroCurve: just ask your question06:28
CViruswhoever knows the answer, will answer you06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camcorder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about camera - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
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XeroCurveWell not sure what question to ask really , im really new at this and the stuff ive been reading makes it seem like there really is no good support for getting modems working, are there any really good How Tos that anyone knows of?06:29
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iarwainhiya people, does anyone know how to get my wifi working? (i'm on a dell XPS, and know jack about wifi)06:30
XeroCurveAll i know is that ive ran scanModem and i have a Conexant HSF modem and supposedly you can get this one to work but im at a loss on whats next.06:31
iarwainhmm, problem is, i'm on windows atm. Internet on linux doesn't really work..06:32
iarwaini do have knetwork manager installed, and i see my wifi AP, but it always says "connetion failed.."06:32
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XeroCurveI assume that no reply means noone knows the answer. If I am wrong let me know. This is my first time on this =)06:49
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LjL!modem | XeroCurve, i wouldn't call this "good" though unfortunately06:52
ubotuXeroCurve, i wouldn't call this "good" though unfortunately: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto06:52
Dr_williswhen in doubt check the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums for your specifc device.06:52
XeroCurveI have its just that those docs seem to be over my head, like most ones that i have read, even when i get something working im not sure what i did that made it that way XD06:53
Dr_willisblame the modem makers for deciding to put 3/4 of their modems in software.06:53
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Dr_willisand not releasing specs. :)06:53
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XeroCurveIs there such thing as a LOWER than noobie forum like a NEWBORN users forum, lol06:54
LeeJunFan3/4 is a conservative estimate I think. :(06:54
LjLXeroCurve, the issue is not which forum you choose, the issue is that getting support for soft-modem is simply hard06:55
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Dr_willisI aint used dialup in proberly 6+ years...06:55
Dr_willisjust identifying the chipset in the modem can be a hassle.06:55
instructorLjL: Nice abuse of ubotu :)06:55
XeroCurveMe either but this is for a friend that is still on dial up and they want to try ubuntu.06:56
Dr_willisthen ya got companies that have the same 'name' modem - but they change the chipset and call it version 3.1 vs the older 3.0 ...06:56
LjLinstructor hehe06:56
wilman1 i want to play midi files 2 i cant 3 what do i do now?06:56
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Dr_willisamarok can play midi i think.06:56
LjL!midi | wilman06:56
ubotuwilman: Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo06:56
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Dr_williswhen in doubt check the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums for your specifc question. :)06:57
LeeJunFanI haven't played a midi file in about as long as I haven't used dial-up :)06:57
wilmanbut iam a amateur musician06:57
jameshow come i can't open the cdtray manually without first dismounting the cd ?06:58
Dr_willisjames,  because thats how it works. :)06:58
LeeJunFanjames: it's locked so you can't accidentally remove it while in use.06:58
Dr_williswhat if somthing is reading the cd as you force it out...06:58
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jameswell i can type a script to eject the cd06:58
LjLwilman, hardware MIDI support can be a hassle to get to work in Linux. you might want to try Timidity as the howto suggests, since anyway it gives you more freedom over how to play MIDI files than your soundcard's synthesizer can't, and if you have a fast processor, the performance impact shouldn't be too bad06:58
Dr_willistype a script.. you mean use a command line command?06:58
LjL"eject" ejects, normally06:58
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jamesi even have my keyboard configured to eject the cd06:58
LeeJunFanjames: in windows if you did that you'd get those irritating pop-up's that there's no CD in the tray, and no matter how many times you hit retry,abort,cancel they won't go away.06:58
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jameswell thanks for the quick response06:59
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LjLLeeJunFan: in AmigaOS you'd get a requester that gently asks you "Please insert volume SomeDisk in any drive" ;_P06:59
Dr_willisTheres a setting to eject on umount also some where...06:59
nagyvhello! I do not have sounds under firefox/flash! What should I set up? As I know I have the newest flash plugin installed. (I use dapper)06:59
LjLor replace, or if it wass writing when you ejected (not the case of a CD), "You MUST replace volume..."07:00
jameswell actually when you eject cd in windowsxp it ejects the cd and no warnings07:00
LjLnagyv: https://help.ubuntu.com/5.10/ubuntu/faq/C/fg-troubleshooting.html#id254766607:01
Dr_willisive had cd's get locked under XP. :)07:01
Dr_willissilly things..07:01
LjLjames: yeah they've made it a bit better in XP07:01
Dr_willisI like when it opens the cd tray, then closes it on your fingers...07:01
LeeJunFanDr_willis: usually it's the whole system that locks, not just the CD.07:01
Dr_willis'it attacked me!'07:01
LjLi like it when it ejects the disc while it's still spinning :-\07:01
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LjLthough i guess that's the drive's fault07:01
Dr_willisheh heh and it flys across the room.07:01
LjLsometimes it's spinning *fast*, though!07:01
Dr_willissort of a hovercraft07:01
LjLyeah i'm not entirely sure that's compliant with security standards, but anyway07:02
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LjLsafety even07:02
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Dr_willisHmm.. at one time KDE showed my audio cd's with mp3 and otehr neat 'special' dirs.. but not now..07:06
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silvaniaAnyone know why wine is messed up beyond all recall on ubuntu 6.10?07:07
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Dr_willisIve had no problems with wine under 6.1007:08
silvaniafps in wow is like 0.0207:09
silvaniayes 0.!07:09
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silvaniabefore it was 40-60 fps07:10
Dr_willisthat sounds about right.07:10
Dr_willisIts possible that the WoW guys did some silly update.07:11
silvaniaafter i upgraded to 6.10 its all messed up07:11
Dr_willisId heard WoW Banned most of  the WIne/Cedega users in the game.07:11
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Dr_willisBut dident see much mention of that other then a single news 'site'07:11
silvaniaits same version07:11
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silvaniaits just wine that desided to kill FPS a ton07:12
Dr_willischeck your 3d stuff, be sure its working. I always do clean installs.. never upgrades.. ive had no wine issues.. but then again  - i gave up on WoW and games a long time ago.07:12
silvaniacan't find out how07:12
silvania3d works fine07:12
silvaniaits just that the wine that follows along the updates is messed up or something07:13
silvaniacause cedega works just fine with wow07:13
teledyn_anyone know a utility to unape a .ape  ?07:13
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Dr_willisteledyn_,  thats a new one.07:17
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teledyn_i just found an answer: http://gimpel.gi.funpic.de/wiki/index.php?title=Howto:convert_ape_to_wav/mp3/ogg_on_Linux07:18
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jamesso the problem / question is this i am running kubuntu edgy so there is no command right-click to unmount cd  but there is an eject option so i can not manually eject the cd is that right?07:20
Dr_willisand here i was thinking ape was a compressed archive. :)07:20
Dr_williseject unmounts and then ejects - i recall07:20
teledyn_what a ridiculous project name eh?  mac07:21
jamesbut i still cannot hit the physical button on the cd tray to eject it07:21
|lostbyte|How are the folders hidden in edgy ?07:21
teledyn_james: type "sudo eject" in a console.  works every time07:21
LjLjames: no, that's right, you can't do that07:21
|lostbyte|The /etc/ /dev/ ..etc..07:21
|lostbyte|in konqueror.07:21
Dr_willisjames,   normally you unmount the thing, then hit the button.07:21
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles07:22
Dr_willis|lostbyte|,  in a very simple /.hidden config file. :)07:22
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jamesthe only way to do that is a script correct?07:22
LjLjames - if you can find a way to detect the pressing of the CD tray button from a script... then i suppose07:22
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Dr_willisIve never felt the need to hit that button. I always right click/eject.07:23
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Dr_willishard to hit the button on a slot loaded cd drive. :)07:23
|lostbyte|Dr_willis, nice :)07:23
jameswell if i am trying to sell the benefits of linux to a new user this seems like a drawback07:23
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Dr_willisjames,  trivial differances... if they are that worried about such things... give up and let them keep their spyware/viruses...07:23
trappistI wonder how cedega does it - it monitors and detects pressing the button, and umounts and ejects... while still somehow running stuff from the drive07:24
Dr_willisnow THOSE are big differances.07:24
LjLjames, MacOS always worked that way. few Mac people complained about it ;)07:24
fdovingjames: you can unlock the cdrom, that way you can hit the button when you feel like, and it will open.07:24
Dr_willistrappist,  yea.. the whole auto-mounting of stuff can be a big 'user friendly' nightmare... give me an icon to mount and one to unmount!07:24
LjLit's just slightly different... you hit a tray button on Windows, you hit a mouse/keyboard button on Mac/Linux. not a big deal IMHO07:24
jameshow do you unlock the cdrom?07:24
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Dr_willisnow THATS logic!07:24
LjL!info setcd | james, you might want to look at this07:25
ubotusetcd: Control the behaviour of your cdrom device. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-3 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 60 kB07:25
LjLnote that, even if with that thing you manage to unlock the tray button, the kernel will probably panic out if you do eject a cd while it's mounted07:25
trappiststill, I think the physical button on the cdrom drive should take precedence, even over root.07:26
LjLtrappist: the story i heard was that it wasn't easy to detect pressing of that button. dunno if it's true07:26
trappistLjL: all kinds of filesystems suddenly disappear without being umounted07:26
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trappistremote ones, floppies, usb sticks, etc.07:26
LjLWindows solves it by simply leaving the drive unlocked, and then worrying about what happens if the CD is ejected while it's mounted/being read (i.e. BSOD, before XP ;-)07:26
trappistI wonder (again) how cedega does it07:27
LjLtrappist: they do but they shouldn't - if you don't unmount a floppy or USB stick or remote share before taking it out, you're looking for trouble (at least if you've been writing on it)07:27
wedgeVLjL: windows never BSOD when removing a cd07:27
trappistpre-this-cedega-feature it sure was hard to install multi-cd games07:27
LjLwedgeV: yes it does.07:27
wedgeVnever did for me07:27
LjLdoesn't mean it never does.07:28
trappistLjL: only if you're writing to em... and cdroms are, as the name implies, read-only07:28
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Admiral_Chicagoyea i think LjLis right, mounting / unmounting in windows was awful07:28
LjLXP doesn't, or at least it shouldn't - about 2000 i'm not sure, IIRC sometimes it does. 98 and 95 definitely do07:28
LjLit's not (usually) a BSOD that means reset, mind you07:28
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Dr_willisive had windows BSOD when you look at it funny...07:29
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LjLanyway mounting and unmounting in Kubuntu is awful as well IMHO. i mean, i should *know* when the stupid USB key has finished being written to07:29
LjLfortunately, it's god a LED that tells me. but what if it didn't?07:29
Dr_willisonluy time i use the cd drive button. is when its empty to insert a disk.07:29
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trappistLjL: didn't that used to work correctly?  like as recently as dapper?07:30
Dr_willisYou can always set the devices to sync/write but i guess that can slow things down.07:30
zorglu_q. i would like to enable a service (chargen and discard) in xinetd, where should i look ?07:30
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trappistDr_willis: also wears out the drive07:30
Dr_willisThat remindes me - i need to track down an IDE to 'compact flash' or whatever converter for my laptop.07:30
LjLtrappist, in Dapper, i did have some feedback, in the form of a "file transfer" window (without a working progress bar, however) that did not go away after hitting "Safely remove" until the write was finished. in Edgy, i just get nothing07:31
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trappistLjL: umount won't return you to the prompt until it's done07:31
trappistas a workaround07:31
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lucai'm an italian user07:32
fdovingtrappist: you can use 'umount -l'07:32
LjLeven that was terribly feedback however - how's an user supposed to know that such a cryptic file transfer window means "don't even think about plugging it out"? especially considering that, with Linux's caching, the time between unmounting and end-of-write can be *long*07:32
trappistzorglu_: sudo apt-get install xinetd... it comes with files for chargen and discard07:32
lucaplease give me italian channel for kubuntu help07:32
zorglu_trappist: ok thanks07:32
fdoving!it | luca07:32
ubotuluca: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!07:32
trappistfdoving: yeah, but I was using umount so I'd know when it was really done :)  I didn't want it to umount prematurely07:32
LjLtrappist: i know - well, i know because you mentioned this some days ago, i think. myself i just wait until the LED goes out. i mean, myself i don't mind it, since i know when to unplug - i'm just saying this shouldn't be the way it is07:33
trappistfdoving: I use it all the time for misbehaving smb/nfs mounts though07:33
trappistLjL: I don't have any USB ports in the front, so it's a real pain for me to watch the LEDs07:33
trappistLjL: agreed07:33
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trappistLjL: I'm pretty sure it's a bug, not a design decision07:33
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trappistI mean *surely*07:34
instructorDink: ping07:34
trappistit's filed as a bug, anyway07:34
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jamesthanks again07:34
LjLtrappist: i don't either. but i have a cable - get one, it's nicer than hitting your head against the wall multiple times and scratching your neck while trying to plug the darn thing in :)07:34
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trappistLjL: yeah, and while I'm at it maybe a hub... I have more usb devices than holes to plug em in07:34
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fdovingjames: you can try http://easylinux.wordpress.com/tag/multimedia/page/2/07:35
jamesactually didn't help but learned something07:35
LjLwell if you need it, yeah, i don't even think a hub really costs more than a cable07:35
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LjLtrappist: another related thing is... caching is nice, alright. but there's really too much of it used on removable drives on Linux! maybe writes end up being a bit faster than on Windows (but i doubt a smaller cache would make much of a difference, really), but it's really not acceptable IMHO to wait > 5 minutes between hitting "Eject" and unplugging  -  *whether* there is a warning meanwhile or not07:37
trappistLjL: from what I hear, caching not only speeds up the writes but also extends the life of the device07:38
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LjLIIRC Windows uses a special caching policy for removable media, which can be set in the hardware properties window07:38
LjLtrappist, makes sense when it's a flash device. but really, you can't have to wait 5 minutes or more, that's just unacceptable. i'm not saying *no* cache, but it should be tuned so that, at most, you wait 20 seconds or so07:39
LjLi don't believe a cache that "only" stores data for the next 20 seconds of writes (well, it depends on the speed of the device also, of course) can be that bad07:39
trappistLjL: I've never had to wait anywhere near that long, but yeah, that's pretty lame07:40
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LjLmaybe Windows errs on the other side: no or very little caching. but there has to be a middle ground07:40
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Dr_willisconsidering how i have usb remoiveable drives/devices that range from 128mb to 300GB...... :)07:40
LjLtrappist: well perhaps my USB key is especially slow07:40
Dr_willisits hard to tell what to do.07:40
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crubeCan anyone give me a quick tip on how to get my 2 extra mouse buttons to work in Kubuntu? Not that important, just wondering if it's possible.07:40
LjLDr_willis, just a thought - what about a cache that auto-adjusts itself after detecting the device's writing speed during the first few seconds of (actual) writing?07:41
zorglu_q. what is the dpkg command to get all the files included in a already installed .deb ?07:41
Dr_williscrube,  check the ubuntu wiki/forums - also ive foung the GENTOO forums/wikis have a large section of mouse-button-configurations07:41
fdovingzorglu_: dpkg -L packagename07:41
instructorcrube: Check the forums :)07:41
LjLDr_willis: i.e., when you issue a write, the system starts writing actual data for 1 second or so. when it's determined the device's speed, it stops writing to the actual device and starts using an appropriately-sized cache07:41
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zorglu_fdoving: thanks07:41
crubeAlrighty. I'll check it out Dr_willis07:41
Dr_willisLjL,  over my skill level. :)07:42
Dr_willisi rarely use removeble media  then my PSP memory card.07:42
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Dr_willismount, copy over porn.. ^H^H^H^H movies... umount...07:42
mefisto_does x create a log file when it starts up?07:42
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instructoron your SP?07:43
_Kiruwamefisto_: yes... /var/log/Xorg.0.log is probably what you're looking for07:43
instructorWonder why Kubuntu won't install on a PS307:43
mefisto_thanks _Kiruwa, that's what I'm looking for07:44
LjLDr_willis: it's over my level too, i was just wondering whether it's a reasonable idea in principle07:44
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Dr_willisgo ask Linus :)07:45
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Dr_willisbut hes proberly got other things on the front burner.07:45
Dr_willisLike tweaking the kernel for the PS307:46
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instructorDr_willis: I thought IBm did that already :)07:46
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Dr_willisI wonder how cheap Xbox's are now..07:47
Dr_willisthat'd be a cheaper linux pc for me then a PS307:47
LjLcould use one as an amiga box :P07:47
Dr_willisif i had a use for an amiga box. :)07:48
Dr_willisI never did get that amiga emulator working on the dreamcast i have.07:48
LjLuhm... well, they're useful07:48
LjLyou can... well07:48
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LjLscala multimedia? =)07:49
Dr_willisI still want CanDo for Linux. :)07:49
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Dr_willisHeh - whatever happened to.. err.. Kylix? wasent it called?07:50
Dr_willisack - work time for me.. byeee....07:50
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LjLaw, pity, i was just looking up the CanDo equivalent i didn't remember the package name of07:51
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zorglu_q. i got a weird sshd listening on tcp 6010 withoud me explicitly configuring it, anybody with an idea of what is it ?07:55
Dinkinstructor, ??07:55
instructorDink: I was asking if the PS3 has a DVR feature?07:55
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DinkDVR ?07:56
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instructorDink: can it save TV on the hard drive?07:58
bthibaultdoes anybody know what i need for the restricted copyright repo?07:58
Dinkthe ps3 alone no, but you can use a linux porgram to do so07:58
instructorDink: that's what I was thinking07:58
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instructorDink: Its' the PS3 menu that gives you access to install the Linux Os so you can boot it up into MythTV mode or SP3 mode?07:59
Dinkyou would probably have to use like mythtv07:59
Dinkyou would have to boot into linux to do so07:59
instructorRight.. now to see if any distros are going to take the plunge to tune stuff for the ps308:00
Dinkthere is an option on the PS3 for default os08:00
instructorand make some killer 10 ft interface Distro08:00
Dinkwell FC, gentoo, ydl already have08:00
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instructorMan I need to steal Umm I mean ... play with one08:00
Dinkbasically any PPC distro can be used08:01
instructorThen why do you have to make one for it?08:01
instructorWhat's the difference?08:01
Dinkand there are kernel patches for regular distro also08:01
Dinkwhat you mean make one ?08:01
instructorI knwo IBm put in a patch for Cell based appliances like 6 releases ago08:01
instructorWell YDL made a big thing about it so that was hard to miss08:02
Dinkthere are kernel patches for Cell 2.6.16 and .1908:02
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DinkYDL is just marketing it more08:02
instructor But If FC and Gentto ahve made one and those work on the PS3 is there some change that needs to be made?08:02
_KiruwaIBM works with SUSE and RedHat atm08:02
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instructorWell Not with SUSE anymore08:03
instructorI'd guess they'd be pissed at Novell08:03
_Kiruwaumm... no08:03
Dinkany PPC based distro should work with no change08:03
_Kiruwainstructor: do a whois on me08:03
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Dinkshould is the keyword08:03
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instructorI still hold they should be pissed08:03
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instructorDink: yes everyone says that but it's obviously not true :)08:04
Dinki tried with ubuntu/kubuntu PPC version but i couldnt figure out how to use kboot to install it08:04
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instructorI gues there should be at least one howto on the net by now08:05
Dinkyou install kboot as the "Other OS" then use that to install your distro08:05
Dinkthere are howtos for FC08:05
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instructorDink: Which Fc?08:06
instructordoes say FC 4 work?08:06
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instructorHmm that about as old as dapper08:06
Dinki just want to get feisty on it :)08:07
instructorWHa ha :-)08:07
instructorThat would be Edgy :)08:07
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instructorDink: It's a play on words :)08:08
grothesk_Has there been an update to kde today in kubuntu?08:08
Bubba_Gumpautomatix and a coupla libs08:09
LjLautomatix is not part of kubuntu in any way08:10
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grothesk_Hum... Can't find any updates in apt.08:11
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ps3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
instructorThat would be neat08:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:14
juliusguden tach08:14
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:14
instructor sledge_at_work: I was just hinking that we might have people coming in asking how to install on the PS3 So a PS3 factiod would be usefl08:14
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Bubba_Gumpi heard the ps3 uses *nix as its OS08:15
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instructorIt does08:15
instructorbut you can install any ppc distro on it08:15
instructor in theory08:15
instructorSo you could get Kubuntu or a ppc based MythTv running on it08:16
instructorDink: have you pulled out the hard drive yet?08:16
zorglu_i heard sony is pretty open about linux, and actually promoting its use on ps3, is it true ?08:16
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max_he ho08:16
instructorgrothesk_: It' hasn't propogated yet08:16
instructorzorglu_: Yeah according to Dink they have an install new OS button :)08:17
grothesk_Ah. I just saw them on the servers, instructor.08:17
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zorglu_instructor: :)08:17
instructorcause Linux installations saved XBox for the first year and a half08:17
instructorA huge number of people bought it just to hack it08:17
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instructormake it semi suported and you have a winning selection :)08:18
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instructorplus they aren't using off the shelf parts so it's a better bet08:18
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instructorAs Dr_willis was saying to really pull of crazy stuff get an Xbox :)08:18
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zorglu_and this turns your game console as a usable computer, pc like08:19
zorglu_so another market :)08:19
Bubba_Gumpso we could buy a PS3, and then use it like a PC?08:19
instructorBubba_Gump: Yup it uses a Bluetooth keyboard though so...08:19
zorglu_kaixlg on ps3 must be pretty ok :)08:19
crubeI dont know why anyone would want to do that08:19
max_you can buy a psp and use it like a pc also08:19
instructorMe either :) but as I said if someone made a good 10 ft interface for it iwo uld be pretty08:20
Bubba_Gumpcrube: ps3 = cheap compared to a high end pc of the same spec08:20
zorglu_well money is always a good incitation :)08:20
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instructorthe PS3 is much sexier to have out on the table for adate than a water cooled PC08:20
zorglu_how much is the ps3 ?08:20
crubeBubba_Gump yeah, but using it with a distro not designed for it wont propably be anything to get any power of it08:20
instructorFor a Bluray player :008:20
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instructorcrube: Well it's a PPC CPu08:21
soulriderps3 is way too expensive08:21
zorglu_well seems a reasonable pc, esprecially if you are a gamer too08:21
soulrideri hope they make linux for wii08:21
max_tschss ihr betrger08:21
instructorso ... not as bad as say the PS208:21
instructorsoulrider: well wii is a over clocked Gamecube08:21
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max_gamecube sucks#08:21
instructorSo they don't have much R&D in it08:21
soulridergamecube owns08:21
instructorHa ha :)08:21
instructorparting words08:22
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crubeWell I see no reason to buy a PS3. It's way too expensive. Maybe in a year or two when the price drops08:22
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instructorYup :) You can't buy one now if you wanted to in any case08:22
crubeIf I'm buying a console I'll buy it to play games, not to use linux :D08:22
soulriderlol so true08:22
soulriderand for fun games08:23
crubeWell that's true, I live in europe and they'll launch it here in march.08:23
soulridernot for games that have good graphics only08:23
instructorcrube: Well that's what is interesting. it easily allows you to do both08:23
zorglu_hehe impossible to understand that a single device may have multiple uses :)08:23
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instructornot sure abuot elegantly but easily at least08:23
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Bubba_Gumpi'd like a single format08:23
lucait ubuntu08:24
instructorBubba_Gump: Format?08:24
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Bubba_Gumpinstructor: yeah08:24
lucawhat is the italian help?08:24
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:24
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Bubba_Gumplike one place for all: gaming, computing08:24
instructordating, marriage? :)08:25
soulriderBubba_Gump: thats called a windows PC08:25
soulriderjust kidding :P08:25
soulrideri wish there were more games for linux08:25
instructorThere are tons of games for Linux08:25
zorglu_only a few are serious08:25
soulriderdoes anyonw know how i an use adept or apt-get to download a package and its dependencies ?08:25
zorglu_as commercial grade08:25
soulriderinstructor: good games :P08:25
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instructorsoulrider: apt-get package08:26
instructorsoulrider: sudo apt-get install package08:26
zorglu_http://tremulous.net <- this one is :)08:26
soulriderinstructor: i want to downlaod08:26
soulridernot install08:26
soulriderand dependencies too08:26
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instructorsoulrider: there are a few good ones but ymmv08:26
soulriderymmv ?08:26
instructorsoulrider: oh I think --dummy08:26
instructorYour mileage may vary08:26
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zorglu_soulrider: apt-get -d <- see the man page about -d --download only08:27
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soulriderzorglu_: when i do thjat i get an error =/08:27
soulrideri do: sudo apt-get -d build-essential08:28
soulriderand i get08:28
soulriderE: Invalid operation build-essential08:28
instructor-d install08:28
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soulriderbuild-essential is already the newest version.08:29
soulrideri dont wanna uninstall it08:29
bthibaultdoes anybody know anything about installing the nvidia binary driver08:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:29
zorglu_--force-yes ? <- soulrider08:29
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bthibaultfolllowed these directions but i'm getting this error :08:29
bthibaultError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed08:29
bthibaultthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.08:29
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soulriderat the end or before build essential ?08:30
bthibaultthat is when i run nvidia-glx-config enable08:30
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metresHi there08:31
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soulriderzorglu_: wont work08:31
metresI'm unable to make php work, asking for download...08:31
zorglu_no idea then08:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:32
metresmy link for ATI is http://www.nuxo.net/tutorial-37.html08:32
bthibaultyes i followed these instructios w/ error08:33
bthibaultoh maybe that was for you08:34
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instructormetres: What do you mean php won't work?08:35
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metresapache is working at localhost but when i put index.php, the browser ask for downloading the file08:36
metresI installed php5...08:36
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metresi also add AddType application/x-httpd-php         .php to etc/apache2/apache2.conf...08:37
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instructorDid you install php stuff for apache?08:40
instructorOh wait...08:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:44
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bthibaultwhat should i do if my nvidia binary driver isn't installing08:52
groth|GAGAbthibault: Try harder!08:53
groth|GAGAOr give more information, why it is not installing...08:53
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bthibaultgroth|GAGA: thanks, i followed all directions listed in the wiki, but when i try to run nvidia-glx-enable08:54
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bthibaultit craps out08:54
groth|GAGAnvidia-glx-enable? O_o Just edit your xorg.conf...08:54
bthibaultgroth|GAGA: with this error08:55
bthibaultError: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed08:55
bthibaultthe nvidia driver for your running kernel.08:55
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bthibaultgroth|GAGA: i did both08:55
bthibaultgroth|GAGA: neither worked08:55
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LeeJunFanbthibault: do you have restricted-modules installed for your kernel?08:57
tibbardoes anyone have the latest ati fglrx drivers (8.31.5)08:57
bthibaultyes, both -generic and -38608:57
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LeeJunFantibbar: yeah, you need it?08:57
tibbarno if I set my res to 1280x102408:57
LeeJunFantibbar: It's not good for laptops, suspend to ram doesn't resume.08:58
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bthibaultLeeJunFan: yes, both -generic and -38608:58
tibbarmy mouse goes about 4cm down from where it actually clicks08:58
groth|GAGAbthibault: Both? O_o08:58
LeeJunFanbthibault: and you've rebooted?08:58
groth|GAGAWhy do you use BOTH?08:58
tibbaryes a few times08:58
bthibaultLeeJenFan: yes i rebooted08:58
bthibaultgroth|GAGA: one wasn't working so i figured I would install the - generic as well08:59
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LeeJunFanbthibault: try 'lsmod | grep nvidia' at a konsole to see if the module is loading.08:59
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groth|GAGAbthibault: Which kernel are you using right now?08:59
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groth|GAGAEnter 'uname -r' in a konsole.08:59
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LeeJunFantibbar: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?09:00
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tibbarbthibault: must I just paste it in here?09:00
bthibaultLeeJunFan: its not listed in there, i tried modprobe nvida09:00
LeeJunFan!pastebin | tibbar09:00
ubotutibbar: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)09:00
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LeeJunFanbthibault: now that you've modprobed try lsmod | grep nvidia again09:01
heinkel_111does wine work on 64-bit?09:01
bthibaultLeeJunFan: i got a modprobe error09:01
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tibbarLeeJunFan: thanks09:01
bthibaultLeeJunFan: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:01
LeeJunFanbthibault: ah, sounds like module and kernel don't match or some such thing.09:01
LeeJunFanbthibault: ah, your driver needs to be changed then probably.09:02
LeeJunFanbthibault: in your xorg.conf09:02
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bthibaultso change the driver then modprobe it?09:02
LeeJunFantibbar: after you paste, post the link here.09:02
tibbarLeeJunFan: ok09:02
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LeeJunFanbthibault: yeah.09:02
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bthibaultLeeJenFan: i would have been nice if the instructions told me that :)09:03
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LeeJunFanbthibault: you may need to add nvidia to /etc/modules09:03
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LeeJunFanbthibault: by adding nvidia to the list of modules in that file it guarantees that it will load on boot, so long as it's used in your xorg.conf09:03
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azzcoI've got a minor problem with Flash in konqueror.. I know it's been asked many times before but could someone help me maybe?09:04
bthibaultLeeJunFan: ok let me reboot and try , thanks09:04
tibbarLeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32980/ I think that should work09:04
instructorazzco: Shoot09:05
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graftyo, any kate users aboard?09:05
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tibbargraft: Kate WTF!!!! I'm a noob so don't ask me anything about it09:06
graftum, thanks for the helpful dross09:06
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instructorI use kate09:08
graftah... have you noticed any problems with the 'file changed on disk' part of it?09:08
graftlike is it still warning you that open files have been altered by some other process?09:08
graftcuz that functionality seems to be busted here...09:09
LeeJunFantibbar: you using 2 monitors?09:09
tibbarLeeJunFan: Nope09:09
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LeeJunFantibbar: perhaps letting X use the VESA modes by commening out line 115, modeline "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync09:10
LeeJunFantibbar: just put a # in front of that line and restart X.09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
dhqwhere can i get icon & themes09:11
graftjust search the repository for 'em09:12
graftor goto kde-look.org09:12
graftbut there's not very many good icon themes09:12
wedgeVhow do i get the monitor out working on my laptop with the fglrx drivers?09:12
tibbarLeeJunFan: I don't really know what that does, so I'll hope my pc dosn't blow up thanks so long if I never see you again09:12
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graftmy monitor out won't work unless i reboot with it plugged in09:13
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schroeffuleute ;( mein KDE laggt an allen ecken und enden. ich habj etzt Xserver neu gestartet, brachte nix... wenn ich z.b. ne website lade im foxi, laggt die maus whrend es ldt.. oder auch wenn ich hier schreibe laggt es pltzlich ;(09:14
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LeeJunFangraft: you got a laptop?09:15
LeeJunFangraft: it might work if you restart X with it plugged in, not a full reboot, just ctrl-alt-backspace09:15
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overkill22someone can help me? i need to install a webcam!09:16
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graftLeeJunFan: i think i've tried that... i think it's a matter of not recognizing ibm function-keys, tho09:16
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azzco_Hmm the power was cut of here =/...09:17
LeeJunFanoverkill22: do you know that your webcam is supported in Linux?09:17
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tibbarLeeJunFan: Thanks now that my reselution works I can tell you about my other few problems09:20
LeeJunFantibbar: hehe.09:21
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instructor!webcam | overkill2209:21
ubotuoverkill22: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:21
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azzcoHave anyone got konqueror to succesfully work with flash?09:23
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LeeJunFanazzco: yes, you just have to tell konqueror where to find the plugin.09:23
tibbarLeeJunFan: sorry about that, If I try to run any game, that includes supertux, in opengl my xserver restarts almost like I pressed Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, but i didn't09:24
LeeJunFanflash9 is flakey with any linux browser at the moment though, it seems to like to lock up or skip.09:24
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Admiral_Chicagomine refuses to play sound even after i did a million work arounds09:24
LeeJunFantibbar: is that why you joined irc and then disappeard a few times? :) Trying to see if that was fixed?09:24
azzcoLeeJunFan: I did that but it seems that nit doesn't work I get a box with a toolbar on top where the flash should be showed...09:24
tibbarLeeJunFan: no its my xserver that restarts the whole time09:25
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LeeJunFantibbar: you might find some info on that by looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:25
overkill22ubotu i have a typhoon easycam ... i don't know if it is supported by linux,...09:26
LeeJunFanubotu is a bot.09:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:26
GusjHello, sorry to bother you, but I have some troubles with Kubuntu09:26
azzcoGusj what's your problem?09:26
heinkel_111does anyone know if mono works for kubuntu 64?09:27
heinkel_111edgy ..09:27
tibbarLeeJunFan: What im I looking for?09:27
GusjMy wireless mous and keyboard does not seem to work09:27
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azzcoI'm running wireless KB and mouse and it worked by default... Got logitech if that helps..09:27
LeeJunFantibbar: you'd kind of have to wing it - just looking for an error that would indicate why X is crashing.09:28
GusjI`m currently using windows now since I can`t do anything in Kubuntu09:28
azzcoBut you can do things in bios with KB?09:28
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overkill22ubotu , linux see my cam on the usb port, but i don't know how i can configure it ...09:28
ubotulinux: Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component restricted, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB09:28
GusjIt should be noted that I am new to Kubuntu09:29
LeeJunFanoverkill22: ubotu is a bot - not human.09:29
azzcoGusj: I've only been runnig linux for about half a year myself ;)09:29
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azzcoIt seems very odd that your keyboard and mouse doesn't work though...09:30
GusjThe mouse and KB is some crap HP-thingy09:30
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overkill22LeejuFan you are a human? can i ask to you?09:30
ubotumono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB09:30
easytigerwhy is my msn in kopete being "actively refused"09:30
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azzcoGusj: I'm not very good at this but if you ask me it should have worked..09:30
GusjIt is the 64-bit version if that would make any difference09:31
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LeeJunFantibbar: I think you'll want to add Load  "dri" to your modules section at the top of xorg.conf as well.09:31
azzcoMight have something to do with it...09:31
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azzcoIT's a PC you're on right? not anything from apel?09:31
GusjNow I forgot to mention that I managed to run it once until it crashed and I had to reboot09:31
GusjIt`s a pc09:31
tibbarLeeJunFan: I think I maby found somthing im not sure so I paster you a nice 100lines http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32983/09:32
azzcoI think that you should have gone with the i386 ;)09:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:32
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heinkel_111mmm...now if i want to run .NET applications do i use wine + .NET or just MONO?09:32
easytigeris anyone having issues with kopete + msn?09:33
azzcoGusj: Did you download and brun the ISO? if so do it again with i368 version instead.09:33
LeeJunFantibbar: I don't think that's going to stop X from doing anything, but you will want Load "dri" in modules section. Try that and restart X09:34
heinkel_111easytiger: mine works perfectly09:34
easytigerso did mine till 20 minutes ago09:34
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tibbarLeeJunFan:  must I just add a few spaces "   load "dir"  "?09:35
heinkel_111easytiger: that is mayb3e a problem with MSN then...mine worked earlier this evening but ia mm not sure now ...09:35
LeeJunFantibbar: you don't have to, but to keep it looking nice and readable you should.09:35
LeeJunFanand it's load "dri", not dir :)09:35
easytigermaybe they've decided to screw with the protocol again09:35
azzcoeasytiger: I think that my sister had some problems too... might be something up with MSN...09:35
heinkel_111easytiger: you are aware that MSN is maintained by microsoft ;)09:35
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easytigerheinkel_111: sadly its what all my mates use09:36
LeeJunFantibbar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32984/09:36
tibbarLeeJunFan:  ok thanks im gonna restart quick09:36
azzcoWe're all in the same boat on that one easytiger09:36
heinkel_111now, can I get some hints on how to run a .NET program?09:36
GusjDownloading the plain verisonthen. This is really a sort of a project to make 64-bit work on the computer. And I do NOT want to try it on the Vista-crap09:36
heinkel_111do i use MONO or wine?09:36
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easytigerheinkel_111: are you writing the program yourself?09:37
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heinkel_111no... i think i will have to use it pre-compiled09:37
easytigerwhat is it?09:37
heinkel_111it is an old program and i have some trouble finding the source09:38
easytigerjust try wine09:38
ubuntuim installing kubuntu now and its amazing09:38
dhqwhere can i find themes and icon themes09:38
tibbarLeeJunFan:  ok done double checked now im gonna restart09:38
azzcoLeeJunFan: Do you know if the file association for *.swf should be changed? Mine says x-shockwave-flash09:38
easytigerwww.kde-look.org dhq09:38
heinkel_111tibbar: http://www.kde-look.org09:39
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heinkel_111the tiger beat me to it, and had the RIGHT recipient :(09:39
LeeJunFanazzco: that sounds right. if you type about:plugins in the address bar in konq it should tell you if it's loading the plugin.09:39
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compagdodoes someone know how to connect to msn with kopete09:40
overkill22how can i accept che cookie for one site on konqueror?09:40
easytigercompagdo: i think msn is not working correctly as of last 30 minutes09:40
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compagdookay..but what is the config09:41
LeeJunFanI'm logged in on msn right now. But I logged in probably 30-40 mins ago.09:41
compagdoor the ip server address09:41
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LeeJunFancompagdo: kopete should have all that already in it.09:41
compagdowill try09:41
azzcoLeeJunFan: Seems to be running... But I still have an empty window with a bar on top that says task name, time ETC.09:41
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easytigeryea compagdo, its easy.. but i think its broken09:41
compagdoanyway thanks09:42
azzcoAt least ATM09:42
LeeJunFanazzco: what are you trying to view? have a url?09:42
tibbarLeeJunFan: I justed tryd to wine war3.exe (it defenitly works I played it a hour ago and the only thing I changed is my drivers) and it said I have no opengl09:42
azzcojust movies on youtube...09:43
overkill22compagdo mi puoi aiutare per un piccolo problemino con konqueror?09:44
azzcotibbar:  When you're trying to run a game that crashes the xserver and you know it...open a new xserver (sudo Xserver :1)09:44
LeeJunFantibbar: pastebin your output from 'export LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose && export MESA_DEBUG=verbose && glxinfo' as well as output from fglrxinfo09:44
poe__anyone know how to get midi to work with kubuntu, i havev audigy card , sounds r ok but no midi?? thx09:45
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LeeJunFanazzco: hrm, I dunno. I've got it working fine here. I've done nothing special. You don't have crossover office on your system do you that might be trying to use windows flash players?09:46
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tibbarok read this so long while I blow test some games http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32988/09:46
LeeJunFantibbar: your problem is right at the top of that output.09:47
tibbarLeeJunFan: sudo Xserver :1 says command not found09:47
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azzcoLeeJunFan: Nothing that I know of... I got firefox to run flash and that's the only thing holding me back from using konqueror fulltime.09:47
tibbarLeeJunFan: I just read it looks like I don't have a graphics card09:48
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LeeJunFantibbar: actually your opengl libraries are still using mesa instead of ATI's.09:49
tibbarLeeJunFan: how do I change that09:49
LeeJunFantibbar: do you also have ubuntu's fglrx installed on your system? dpkg -l | grep fglrx09:50
tibbarrc  xorg-driver-fglrx                      7.0.0-8.25.18+            Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators, yes09:51
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LeeJunFantibbar: you need to remove that and re-run the ati installer sh.09:51
tibbarLeeJunFan: In adept it says its uninstalled09:52
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LeeJunFantibbar: then restart X again, rebooting might be recommended.09:52
LeeJunFantibbar: oh, sorry, I see that now, rc09:52
wilmanmy sound for flash does not work but a session ago it did. only when it worked i could not turn other music on09:52
malandrvjsWhere can I download the kubuntu book?09:52
LeeJunFantibbar: did you remove it after you installed ati's drivers? if so it probably removed the ati ones and put mesa back in their place.09:53
LeeJunFantibbar: try running ati installer again. and restart X.09:53
tibbarLeeJunFan: no, I unistalled it then without rebooting I installed the new drivers09:53
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LeeJunFantibbar: when you run glxinfo client glx and opengl vendor should both be ATI09:54
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londo4Where can I download the official Ubuntu book?09:54
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tibbarLeeJunFan: im gonnna restart quick, bussy installing new drivers again09:55
azzcoI fixed it LeeJunFan, when looking at application for swf I saw the tab embedding... I noticed two rows one was the netscape libflash.so plugin the other karm part (wich I removed)09:55
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LeeJunFanazzco: hrm, didn't even think of that :) cool. Good job.09:56
SlimGI can't get my Kubuntu to mount a samba resource, i've edited my fstab to look like this example: http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2004-February/080086.html09:56
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ubotusmbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB09:56
LeeJunFanSlimG: check out that^^ you need to install smbfs to mount smb shares.09:57
LeeJunFanyou gotta be kidding me, konqueror locked up viewing that samba lists page.09:58
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LeeJunFanoh, not konqueror emerald in beryl.09:58
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ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke10:01
tibbarLeeJunFan: I reinstalled and restarted, but its still waisted. If I type fglrxinfo "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".display: :0.0  screen: 0"10:01
LeeJunFantibbar: what's it say for vendor?10:02
tibbarLeeJunFan: Mesa10:02
LjLyurik: it says (i think) you should join #ubuntu-ru if you want to chat in russian. was that russian?10:02
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tibbarLeeJunFan: Maby my instalation is corrupt or something?10:03
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LeeJunFantibbar: no, it's using the wrong libfile but I don't know why.10:04
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dorshini got sound from internal speakers but not from my external speaks.10:05
dorshini got sound from internal speakers but not from my external speakers.10:05
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dorshini am using dapper10:05
Yaccindorshin: you have a "mute" button on your laptop?10:05
dorshinYaccin: can you read my question again please?10:06
LeeJunFantibbar: try pastebin 'ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.*'10:06
tibbarLeeJunFan: my xorg in section device it tells me driver "vesa"10:06
LeeJunFantibbar: that would be for the monitor, that's fine.10:07
Lam_where does kde menu editor save the settings?10:08
LeeJunFanLam_: all over the place.10:08
tibbarLeeJunFan:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32992/10:09
dorshinhow can i check if promisc mode is anabled for eth0?10:09
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LeeJunFandorshin: ifconfig eth010:09
LeeJunFandorshin: it would say PROMISC there if it is, if not just ifconfig eth0 promisc will turn it on.10:10
dorshinLeeJunFan: but i cant see something like "promisc" in the output10:10
LeeJunFandorshin: then it's not on.10:10
dorshinLeeJunFan:i am doing sudo ifconfig eth0 -promisc10:11
LeeJunFantibbar: hrm, not what I was expecting, what about ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/libGL.*10:11
dorshinits not working10:11
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LeeJunFandorshin: -promisc turns it off promisc turns it on.10:11
tibbarLeeJunFan: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32993/10:12
dorshinLeeJunFan: thats ok now thanks.10:13
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LeeJunFantibbar: man, I'm at a loss. I don't know how it's loading the wrong libGL everything is linked right there.10:13
tibbarLeeJunFan: Can't i manually force it to use that lib some how10:14
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LeeJunFantibbar: not any way I know of that it wouldn't already be doing, unless I'm looking at the wrong library.10:15
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tibbarLeeJunFan: i guess you can't trust ati's offical drivers anyhow but here is the new xorg.conf i don't see fglrx anyware in it... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32994/10:17
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LeeJunFantibbar: oh, you're right. vesa should be fglrx.10:18
LeeJunFanhow did that get changed? when you ran the installer?10:18
tibbarLeeJunFan: ok so should i edit it and then restart?10:19
dorshini got sound from internal speakers but not from my external speakers,any idea?(using dapper)10:19
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tibbarLeeJunFan: yeah i guess when i resintalled the driver..10:19
Lam_where are the typical places that .desktop files will be stored?10:19
LeeJunFanLam_: .kde/share/applnk I think10:19
mickruhi... i configured my Kubuntu 6.10 with pppoeconf. Now I got myself a router and would like to get rid of automatic pppoe. What do I have to do? Seems that pppoeconf, doesn't have a remove option10:20
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Lam_LeeJunFan: thanks10:20
LeeJunFanLam_: also ~/.local/share/applications10:21
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LeeJunFanThat's probably the most appropriate place for them.10:21
Lam_LeeJunFan: second one works better. :)  first has nothing in it.  i found what i was looking for, so thanks a lot10:21
LeeJunFanLam_: your welcome.10:22
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casev01someone knows where i can get the nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629 package?10:24
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overkill22webcam HELP10:25
overkill22cookie HELP10:25
SlimGhowto make a smbfs mount in fstab mountable for other users than root ?10:26
tibbarLeeJunFan: direct rendering: No but at least its not telling me missing display ....10:26
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LeeJunFanSlimG: I think just add user to list of options10:27
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justin1278I am having issues with my external harddrive on Kubuntu10:27
justin1278I cannot save or delete any files to it10:27
justin1278or from it10:27
rysiek|plhi all10:27
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Lam_does anyone else have emacs loading with irregularly small font size?  i edited the emacs entry in KDE Menu Editor and emacs now loads with really small font size10:28
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rysiek|pldoes anybody know, where can I set-up a background-image for the menubar in KDE/Qt apps, like in this screenshot: http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=42997&file1=42997-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Vista+Classic ?10:28
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tibbarLeeJunFan: direct rendering: No, but at least its not telling me missing display .... i don't know if i edited the wrong 'vesa' to 'fglrx'10:30
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casev01someone knows if there is a repository with the nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629?10:30
tibbarcasev01 search on the beryl site10:31
casev01ok, thanks10:31
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LeeJunFantibbar: I don't know why you've got 2 screens defined, but it wouldn't hurt if you changed both driver "vesa" to driver "fglrx"10:31
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tibbarLeeJunFan: i don't know either :P so do i just change all of the 'vesa' tp 'fglrx'?10:32
LeeJunFanjust the driver "vesa" to driver "fglrx" there's only 2 of those.10:33
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tibbarcasev01, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA10:34
tibbarLeeJunFan: ok10:34
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ceruleantigerI'm trying to install ubuntu on a macbook. Unfortunately standard liveCD will not work, so I have to boot from a liveCD, and chroot in to install10:40
tibbarLeeJunFan: still no direct rendering :P10:40
ceruleantigeranyone know how to get a base ubuntu system installed in this kind of way?10:40
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casev01thanks, i was trying to find it10:41
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wilmancan't play midi10:42
tibbarcasev01, i wish ati drivers was as easy as nv ;)10:42
ubotudebootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 248 kB10:42
wilmanhow can is ask something to ubotu?10:42
wilmanmidi files10:42
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo10:42
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tibbarLeeJunFan: ur too fast i was wanting to do that ;)10:43
DaSkreechnikkiana_lappy: Let me guess10:43
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MrLogic1308thx ;-)10:43
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tibbarLeeJunFan: still no direct rendering :P and still mesa as opengl vendor...10:44
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LeeJunFantibbar: I don't know what else to look at.10:44
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LeeJunFantibbar: and I had that problem once a long time ago.10:45
DaSkreechI can't get konqueror to work with Google's Notebook10:45
tibbarLeeJunFan: i guess i'l just have to upgrade to edgy10:45
LeeJunFantibbar: what gfx card do you have?10:47
tibbarLeeJunFan: x70010:47
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tibbarLeeJunFan: the thing is if i want to go in the live cd of dapper i can't i need to go into safe mode...10:47
LeeJunFantibbar: doh, I forgot. Although I thought this was an edgy only thing, you have to turn off composite.10:48
nikkianahi DaSkreech10:48
casev01good by friends10:48
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LeeJunFantibbar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33003/ put that at the end of your xorg.conf file.10:49
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tibbarLeeJunFan: and now if i reconfigure my xorg.conf with that xserver-reconfig or whatever i can't use that auto configed xorg,conf is that maybe whay i can't use any auto gened conf because of composite10:49
DaSkreechnikkiana: Back over there?10:49
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LeeJunFantibbar: it shouldn't be, composite should only interfere with fglrx, if you look in your Xorg.0.log file you should see a line something like composite enabled disabling dri10:51
graf2ixsomeone speak frenche here?10:51
tibbarLeeJunFan: ok10:51
tibbarLeeJunFan: just wondering..10:51
ubotuGraphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T10:52
LeeJunFanI thought the default with dappers X was to have composite disabled, but adding it won't hurt.10:52
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:52
graf2ixthx :)10:52
Dinkde rien or something like that10:52
DaSkreechDink: Ha ha Was just talking about the 10 ft interface for PS3 again10:52
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Dink10ft interface ?10:53
DaSkreechYeah like Apple Front Row10:53
DaSkreech I think that MythTV shoudl have a 10 Ft interface10:53
DaSkreech I'll check it out10:53
Dinklol i have no idea what you talking about... let me google real quick10:54
Dinkahh DVR thingie again10:54
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DinkDaSkreech you got kubuntu install on your ps3 ?10:55
DaSkreechI have Kubuntu10:55
DaSkreechI need two other parts :)10:55
Dinklol let me guess 1 = ps310:55
DaSkreechGood dink Scooby snack :)10:55
Dinki have both kubuntu and ps3 but not both on same machine :p10:56
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DaSkreechWhat's kernel10:56
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Dinkhuh ?10:56
DaSkreechWhat kernel does it come with10:57
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LeeJunFanDink: so you got any bruises from your ps3 buying experience? :p10:57
Dinknah i pre-ordered10:57
Dinkjust walked in and picked it up10:57
DinkDaSkreech the ps3 ?10:57
kayhello i have a lot .rar files how do i unpack them all together so that they are one file?10:57
tibbarLeeJunFan: its still not working with the Composite 010:57
_Shade_will feisty ship kde4 packages?10:58
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LeeJunFan_Shade_: hard to say, kde4 still doesn't have an official release date AFAIK.10:58
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LeeJunFan_Shade_: from what I've seen of it so far I don't think it's going to make it in 6 months.10:58
Seeker`it didn;t have one when i was on the KDE site earlier10:58
DaSkreechDink: I doubt they give out that info sony isn't crazy. Kubuntu10:58
DinkDaSkreech, there is no linux on the ps3 but im running 2.6.19-5 kernel on kubuntu10:59
DaSkreech_Shade_: Sort of10:59
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DaSkreechDink: Thought the OS was a stripped LInux10:59
_Shade_DaSkreech: what do you mean?10:59
Dinkno you add it via "Other Os" option on the ps310:59
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kayhello i have a lot .rar files how do i unpack them all together so that they are one file?10:59
Dinkyou install kboot10:59
Dinkthen from there install your distro10:59
DaSkreech!unrar | kay11:00
ubotukay: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free11:00
LeeJunFankay: you mean pack them into one file? or extract them all then recompact them into one file?11:00
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Dinki got kboot installed just dont think you can install kubuntu from there11:00
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Dinkits where im stuck at11:00
kayLeeJunFan: there are 20 files (.rar) and when i unpack them they have to be one big file together11:00
LeeJunFankay: ah, I see what you mean, it's one file split into 20 rars11:01
kayLeeJunFan: yes11:01
graftjust do 'rar x whatever.rar'11:01
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DaSkreech_Shade_: it will be kde4 ready11:01
DaSkreech but not really with kde4 packages11:01
DaSkreech_Shade_: Look at the Feisty specs11:01
DaSkreechDink: what does kboot do?11:02
kaygraft: for what stands x?11:02
graftx => extract11:02
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LeeJunFankay: sorry, I guess look into the link ubotu / DaSkreech sent, I've never done one of those on linux.11:02
DaSkreechgraft: isn't it unrar?11:02
Dinkits like bootloader i think11:02
kayLeeJunFan: yes i do thx11:02
Dinkmini linux11:02
DaSkreechDink: right and why doens' t it work with Kubuntu? does it not recognize the Cd/DVD ?11:02
DaSkreechDink: Hmm i wonder if the problem is that FC comes on DVd11:03
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graftDaSkreech: i think they both work11:03
Dinkfrom what I read you have to use like install-fc sda that installs FC11:03
DaSkreechgraft: Hmm that's pretty interesting11:03
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Dinkbut i didnt see naything similar for kubuntu11:03
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Dinkand it only reads dvd11:04
DaSkreechDink: Waht are you installing from? an alternate cd>?11:04
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Dinkthe PPC11:04
tibbarwhat does load "GLcore" do?11:04
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_Shade_DaSkreech: ah i get it now. You will be able to install these appropriate packages right?11:04
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DaSkreech_Shade_: yup11:05
DaSkreechDink: o_O11:05
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DaSkreechWhat media are you installing from?11:05
graftthe fact that kde4 has no release deadline is scary to me11:06
LeeJunFantibbar: Make sure you blacklist fglrx in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common11:07
DaSkreechgraft: I don't think any KDe has a release date11:07
DaSkreechthat's Gnome11:07
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DaSkreechWhich is why so many Enterprise Distros ship Gnome11:07
LeeJunFantibbar: you probably have restricted-modules installed for your kernel? in which case it might be loading the one from ubuntu.11:07
kaygraft: it seems to me that it works THX11:07
LeeJunFantibbar: then a reboot might fix it.11:07
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tibbarLeeJunFan: yeah so how do i black list it11:07
DaSkreechDink: You have to reboot or something?11:08
LeeJunFantibbar: see if this page helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910&highlight=fglrx11:08
DaSkreechDink: Easy way do you have a article walk through so I can understand what's going on?11:08
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LeeJunFantibbar: or this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide#Blacklist_old_fglrx_module_from_linux-restricted-modules which is probably the better one.11:09
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tibbarLeeJunFan: ok11:09
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kaythx for help nite ;-)11:12
tibbarLeeJunFan: i can't go to wiki.cchtml.com :(11:12
DaSkreechDink: Is there some patches that have to go into the kernel?11:12
_Shade_DaSkreech: well i think it would be better to wait on feisty+1 to be released so as to make it safer, but anyways, according to the specs - it should be as stable as possible in feisty11:12
Dinkim trying to find you the link11:12
Dinkfor the PPC version no but regular yes from what i was reading11:12
LeeJunFantibbar: edit /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common to have DISABLED_MODULES="fglrx"11:13
DaSkreech_Shade_: Right. basically if KDE4 comes out sometime in between releases from here on out it shoudl be trivial to upgrade to it11:13
DaSkreechAh ok11:13
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_Shade_i wonder if feisty will be delivered through shipit or not11:13
DaSkreechI should hope so11:13
DaSkreechWhy wouldn't it?11:14
_Shade_DaSkreech: well edgy wasn't... :)11:14
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tibbarLeeJunFan: do i restart now or reinstall the driver or what/11:14
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LeeJunFantibbar: should just need to reboot. Did you make deb packages or just plain old install the driver with ATI's installer?11:15
DaSkreechIt wasn't? The Cads!!11:15
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DinkDaSkreech, did you et the link i posted earlier ?11:16
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tibbarLeeJunFan: plain ati11:16
_Shade_i also hope to see beryl more polished in feisty since the current release (of beryl) wastes too much of my cpu power11:16
LeeJunFantibbar: okay, that's the way I do it too. I guess give it a reboot.11:16
tibbarLeeJunFan: ok cu now...11:16
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LeeJunFantibbar: although I use my own kernel and not ubuntu's so I don't have restricted modules.11:16
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LeeJunFantibbar: so I wouldn't see that problem myself.11:17
DaSkreechDink: Yeah slowly going through it11:17
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tibbarLeeJunFan: because you compile it (the kernel) ur self?11:17
ypsilahallo together11:17
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LeeJunFantibbar: yes.11:17
DaSkreech_Shade_: beryl is getting to be a dark horse for me now11:18
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ypsilaDaSkreech: could you please define "dark horse"?11:18
DaSkreech4 legged animal with dark brown to black fur coat?11:18
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ypsilahyper_ch: ;-)11:19
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ypsilaDaSkreech: you like or dislike horses?11:19
_Shade_DaSkreech: have you tried to run firefox using beryl? it's nearly unusable :)11:20
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ypsilaDaSkreech: ok, thx, me too both, horses and beryl11:20
Seeker`_Shade_: I've not had any problems11:20
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_Shade_Seeker`: maybe it's just about my hardware config11:21
hyper_chgute nachte meine lieben :)11:21
Seeker`what are you using?11:21
tibbarLeeJunFan: is it difficult to compile the kenel ur self?11:21
ypsilaguds nchtle hybrid11:21
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DaSkreechwell when it makes Ubuntu do Dumb things like ship closed drivers then yeah I hate beryl11:21
ypsilagood night hyper_ch and sorry hybrid11:21
_Shade_Seeker`: Athlon 1.33, 256 megs of ram, ati card with 128 megs onboard@open drivers11:22
LeeJunFantibbar: it can be, unless you know your hardware well and what some things in the kernel do what. They only way to learn is to do it though. I sure didn't get it right on my first, second, third, fourth, times :)11:22
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LeeJunFanThat was years ago.11:22
Seeker`_Shade_: Ah, ok. I'm running it on a 2.8GHz P4, 2GB RAM, i945 onboard graphics11:23
LeeJunFantibbar: I started compiling my own kernel years ago when Linux didn't have drivers included for most of the newest hardware, back then you HAD to compile your own kernel in order to burn CD's.11:23
_Shade_Seeker`: n/c then :)11:23
tibbarLeeJunFan: lol11:23
_Shade_Seeker`: no comments :)11:23
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_Shade_i wonder if they plan to include such effects in the furthcoming kde version :)11:24
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tibbarLeeJunFan: i my first disto was mandrake 9.2 and setting up drivers was not easy too... but i am going to leave this now i'll try again tomorrow (actually today 12:24am gtm2+) and its still exame too11:25
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_Shade_oh Seeker`... would you lend me some RAM mate? :D11:26
Seeker`_Shade_: Its a work computer, they may notice if it goes. Also, I'm running Eclipse regularly, so I need 1GB just to run that :P11:27
LeeJunFantibbar: yeah, I used Mandrake before it became Mandrival. Switched to kubuntu when hoary was released.11:27
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_Shade_what's eclipse?11:27
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Seeker`Java IDE. It eats memory11:27
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tibbar_Shade_: its a cool die11:28
tibbar_Shade_: oops * ide11:28
tibbarLeeJunFan: i am acutaly on my borthers pc now i have a xfx 7900gt xxx and its really nice i have beryl and nv96.29 ...11:28
_Shade_tibbar: i dunno whether it's cool to die or not :) i've never tried :)11:28
LeeJunFantibbar: yeah, I'm running beryl on feisty right now.11:29
LeeJunFanberyl rocks.11:29
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tibbarLeeJunFan: yeah well cya...11:29
LeeJunFangood luck.11:29
_Shade_LeeJunFan: beryl's nice, but too slow for me (on my machine?)11:29
Seeker`_Shade_: I was running eclipse on a computer with 600MB RAM, and it took 3-4 minutes to start11:30
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_Shade_LeeJunFan: it goes smooth, but when it comes to open some pages in firefox, the scrolling is well....... very very slow11:30
LeeJunFan_Shade_: I've run it on a 500MHz celeron with an ATI 9200 128M, with 192M of RAM, the RAM was the only problem I had, it ran okay until I started swapping.11:31
_Shade_Seeker`: yeah... only 600 megs. I wish i could have these at least :)11:31
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_Shade_LeeJunFan: swapping what?11:32
LeeJunFan_Shade_: memory11:32
Seeker`_Shade_: Cant you get any more? RAM isn't exactly expensive these days11:32
LeeJunFan_Shade_: when I ran out of physical ram and starting using HD (virtual).11:32
lupine_85"only"? 512MB is more than enough11:32
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lupine_85(says me, with 1.5GB - but it *was* 512MB :D)11:33
_Shade_lupine_85: i haven't got even 512 :)11:33
lupine_85mm, I've had ubuntu running with 256 pretty well11:33
lupine_85128MB RAM as well, but it's not too great with that11:33
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_Shade_Seeker`: i can't afford even 1 gb temporarily11:34
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DaSkreech.me remembers 640k of ram11:35
lupine_85the scary thing is that that desktop (233MHz. K6) was about as responsive as my current (2500+)11:35
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_Shade_LeeJunFan: that's weird... everybody says that it runs smoothly even on a weaker configurations, but it doesn't for me... i mean yes - it is smooth but the page rendering is poor11:35
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DaSkreechlupine_85: hardware will never outstrip software11:36
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lupine_85_Shade_: probably the X server having difficulties. What graphics card do you have in it?11:36
lupine_85and do you have the drivers working properly?11:36
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lupine_85DaSkreech: I know :( .. unless I install Red Hat 6 on my current machine, perhaps ;)11:36
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_Shade_lupine_85: it's an ati card (radeon 35oo :)11:37
lupine_85using the ati/radeon, or fglrx driver?11:37
DaSkreechha ha or installed Vista on your K6 :)11:37
_Shade_lupine_85: i have no idea... they seems to work properly :)11:37
lupine_85except for your slow scrolling, which is IME symptomatic of incorrect drivers ;)11:38
DaSkreechWait that's software stripping hardware ... and tying it to the pole11:38
lupine_85still, never mind11:38
lupine_85DaSkreech: hehe11:38
_Shade_lupine_85: i'm using the ati (open) drivers since ati doesn't support these models11:38
lupine_85ah, so you can't try out the alternative... is it just firefox that it happens on?11:39
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lupine_85if so, just use konqueror instead ;)11:39
_Shade_it happens on konqueror as well but it's not that bad11:39
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velleAdmiral_Chicago: hey, you helped me report some bugs last week, i've got a few questions if you have a minute???11:40
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_Shade_ok it's getting late here... I would have to go. Take care all11:42
Kibouwhy is there no option to show an icon for "unmounted removable medium" on the desktop?11:42
AmarI have been told that i need to instal (using the alternative cd) with hardware autodetection turned of from the boot prompt11:42
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Amarcan somone explain what i need to enter11:42
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KibouI'm using debian with kde 3.5.5 right now and there is that option. on edgy it's just missing. any reason why?11:43
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DaSkreechDink: So I guess when you put in the Kubuntu DVd it doesn't recognize it?11:44
DaSkreechAmar: there should be a listing of F-Keys at the bottom11:45
DaSkreechDink: It sits for a while aand does nothing?11:45
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Dinkim not even sure if it is even reading it11:46
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Dinki didnt debug it much last night only tried it acouple of times11:46
DaSkreechright of course why waste valuable gaming time :)11:47
intelikeyi didn't realize how much i used the scripts i have writen until i sat down at a box that didn't have them...11:47
DaSkreechI assume it reads and boots fine in other machines?11:47
DaSkreechintelikey: Amen11:47
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DinkIm not sure what command to issue to initiate the setup from kboot11:48
Amarthe F keys 2-5 are for languages,keymaps VGA and accesability, the 6th is the other options and F1 is help11:48
Amarof which i dont understand enough11:48
DaSkreechEither F1 or F6 then11:48
DaSkreechF6 is advanced I thin11:48
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DaSkreechF1 might tell you quickly what hardware detection = off is11:48
Amarf6 basicaly lets me enter the comand propmpt11:48
intelikeyAmar command prompt ?   or boot prompt ?11:49
Amarsorrt boot prompt11:49
DinkIm going to try again once i get home11:49
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wildchildwhy when I in konzole ping local computer constantly shows some data 64 bytes from icmp_seq=60 ttl=128 time=0.121 ms, ok I  saw what's the ping how can  I turn this off?11:50
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fdovingwildchild: ctrl-c11:51
Amarthe clossesed i can find is "don't start PCMCIA" : hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false11:51
wildchildfdoving: uff thx :)11:51
DaSkreechAmar: try that11:52
DaSkreechDink: You left the PS3 home alone?11:52
DaSkreechDink: Where do you live again?11:52
Dinkmy rottie is protecting it11:52
intelikeychewing the cords off of it ?11:53
DaSkreechHa ha11:53
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DaSkreechHmm this is quite non straight forward11:54
sledge_at_workDaSkreech: It's crooked? ;)11:54
Dinklol she got passed that stage11:54
Dinki went through 4 ps2 controllers11:54
Dinkall was left was the X button11:54
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DaSkreechha haWEll in that case I'm going to see my friend in teh hospital and then come back in here11:55
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axelHi all, is there anybody can help me with kubuntu on HP ZV6000?11:57
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:57
axelwhat parameter I need to pass to grub ?11:59
intelikeyfor ?11:59
Amarbaa it is still freezing at the same point11:59
DinkDaSkreech, going home ill give you an update later11:59
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intelikeywelcome back to /me12:06
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intelikeyok if you have an iso and a cd what do you tell md5 to get it to compair the two ?12:07
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intelikeyno ?12:08
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ash211in the command line, type md5sum <FILE>12:10
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ash211that will produce the md5sum of that file12:10
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