[08:22] <kwwii> moin
[08:29] <klepas> moinmoin kwwii
[08:30] <kwwii> howdy klepas
[08:35] <elkbuntu> hello kwwii :)
[08:36] <kwwii> hi elkbuntu :-)
[08:36] <kwwii> elkbuntu: make it home ok?
[08:36] <elkbuntu> kwwii, yeah, i arrived home at the start of a cold snap... it was actually colder here than in SF, so my body promptly caught a cold :(
[08:38] <kwwii> yeah, about the same thing happened to me...in addition to taking a few days till I could sleep at night
[08:38] <kwwii> it's finally getting better now :-)
[08:38] <elkbuntu> hehe.. i had no problem with that. flus/colds are great for forced sleep
[08:39] <kwwii> ;-)
[08:39] <elkbuntu> although, my bodyclock is now stuck in 'normal people' time, rather than geek time
[08:40] <kwwii> hehe
[08:42] <elkbuntu> how was allhands?
[08:42] <kwwii> I am actually getting up early in the morning! it might last like a week or so
[11:34] <lapo_> hi
[05:32] <fschoep> just checking, I'll be back in a jiffy
[06:04] <troy_s> PingunZ wb
[06:04] <PingunZ> troy_s, ty :)
[06:04] <PingunZ> how are you troy_s ?
[06:04] <PingunZ> fschoep,
[06:04] <PingunZ> !!
[06:04] <troy_s> theres frank too
[06:04] <fschoep> Hi there PingunZ
[06:04] <fschoep> troy_s: I hope I'm on time
[06:05] <PingunZ> I'm back on ubuntu :)
[06:05] <troy_s> yeah i just woke up
[06:05] <fschoep> PingunZ: nice, back for good ;) ?
[06:05] <PingunZ> Hope so
[06:05] <PingunZ> I err .. used vista for a month ( the shaame )
[06:05] <troy_s> vista is drm hell
[06:05] <fschoep> I see, did you like / dislike Vista?
[06:06] <troy_s> as osx is heading that way too.
[06:07] <fschoep> Does anybody have even the foggiest idea of what is happening for Feisty?
[06:07] <PingunZ> I liked vista, but then I started hating it, every day a little bit more
[06:08] <troy_s> nope
[06:08] <PingunZ> fschoep, You still r the AiC ? :)
[06:08] <troy_s> it isn't important.
[06:08] <fschoep> PingunZ: I'm not
[06:08] <troy_s> pretty funny thread on the sounds
[06:08] <fschoep> PingunZ: I was AiC for Edgy and that's it ;)
[06:08] <troy_s> "lets revert"
[06:08] <troy_s> it really is sad that all of the buntu's design has no plan
[06:09] <fschoep> troy_s: indeed, couldn't be bothered by it
[06:09] <troy_s> (aside from perhaps edubuntu that has an implied 'education' motif)
[06:09] <fschoep> true
[06:09] <fschoep> kwwii: you there?
[06:09] <fschoep> Since kwwii was at UDS MTV maybe he can enlighten us?
[06:11] <troy_s> not a chance
[06:11] <troy_s> i have spoken to mark
[06:11] <troy_s> and know the larger picture.
[06:11] <fschoep> You did? Elaborate
[06:11] <troy_s> there isn't much
[06:12] <troy_s> cliff will build the 'anchors' -- the elements targetted for edgy
[06:12] <fschoep> OK
[06:12] <troy_s> and the community will be welcome to attempt and duplicate the 'style' for other bits.
[06:12] <fschoep> And community will fill in the blanks
[06:12] <fschoep> right
[06:12] <troy_s> which is pretty funny, considering that dapper was all over the board.
[06:12] <fschoep> Do you know if there is going to be an AiC like person for Feisty eventually?
[06:13] <troy_s> my guess is ... i doubt it.
[06:13] <troy_s> oh my god
[06:13] <troy_s> is that cliff in that stupid picture
[06:13] <troy_s> www.ubuntu.com
[06:13] <fschoep> I don't think so
[06:13] <troy_s> it sure looks like him
[06:14] <troy_s> and it would explain where the rather banal photos come from
[06:14] <fschoep> Well, those Asian people tend to look the same more often than not (nofi) :)
[06:15] <PingunZ> nice one fschoep :)
[06:15] <troy_s> eek
[06:15] <troy_s> lord...
[06:15] <fschoep> Putting them side by side I can see similarities but I think they're different persons.
[06:15] <troy_s> i don't have the spacejunkdesigns site handy
[06:16] <troy_s> i just remember the hair.
[06:16] <troy_s> lol
[06:16] <fschoep> ;)
[06:17] <troy_s> i managed to get e17 to build
[06:17] <troy_s> _wow_
[06:17] <fschoep> Impressive?
[06:17] <troy_s> have you seen it?
[06:17] <PingunZ> yes
[06:17] <fschoep> Yes, but a year ago
[06:17] <troy_s> the default theme is rather overdone, but
[06:17] <PingunZ> I like xfce and gnome that's it :)
[06:17] <troy_s> the foundation that is there is way ahead of the times.
[06:18] <troy_s> little details.
[06:18] <fschoep> It's pretty amazing what rasterman (that's him, right) has done
[06:18] <troy_s> well the fact that none of it relies on gl is pretty important
[06:18] <troy_s> until the cards pull their heads out of their collective asses and
[06:18] <troy_s> open the docs up (possibly happening with the AMD aquisition)
[06:18] <fschoep> Indeed, and even without GL it works smooth
[06:18] <troy_s> yes...
[06:19] <troy_s> very nice tweaks that would be very nice if undertoned
[06:19] <PingunZ> Hmm troy_s is there a way to get beryl + e17 ?
[06:19] <troy_s> animated window borders, animated backgrounds (had that for quite a while of course), animated panels.
[06:19] <troy_s> i suspect so
[06:20] <troy_s> but the problem is that it is _two_ projects
[06:20] <troy_s> so don't expect anything more than a 'bad suit'
[06:20] <troy_s> a good jacket plus a good pants from two different wardrobes does not make for a good suit. ;)
[06:20] <fschoep> +1
[06:20] <troy_s> that's assuming they are good too...
[06:20] <troy_s> which we throw the benefit of a doubt to.
[06:21] <fschoep> And he's off
[06:21] <fschoep> Which brings me to the point of meeting up - are there specific things you want to talk about?
[06:22] <troy_s> not exactly
[07:42] <kwwii> hi
[07:43] <kwwii> oops, missed frank
[10:21] <troy_s> andreasn
[10:22] <andreasn> hi there troy_s
[10:22] <troy_s> are you working on the icon for seahorse?
[10:23] <andreasn> not for the moment, gave it a try a couple of weeks back but got stuck :/
[10:23] <troy_s> is there an easy way to find out
[10:23] <troy_s> who is working on what?
[10:23] <troy_s> or what icons need addressing and what work has been contributed up to that point?
[10:23] <andreasn> to seahorse?
[10:24] <troy_s> no for tango
[10:24] <andreasn> we have  a little list with applications that needs icons here http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Fridays
[10:25] <troy_s> yes i saw that
[10:25] <andreasn> and if you see a application having a fuzzy icon or one that don't apply to the guidelines you can just fix it
[10:26] <troy_s> ahh.
[10:26] <andreasn> I'll upload my work on the seahorse icon in a moment
[10:27] <andreasn> http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/seahorse.svg
[10:27] <troy_s> that would be nice
[10:27] <andreasn> http://ramnet.se/~nisse/diverse/temp/seahorse2.svg
[10:28] <troy_s> :)
[10:28] <troy_s> how does the newer icon naming utility work?
[10:31] <andreasn> I'm not sure actually, I haven't used it in a while
[10:31] <andreasn> currently using gnome-icon-te
[10:31] <andreasn> theme that came with edgy stable
[10:31] <andreasn> better try compiling it though, to spot missing stuff easier :)
[10:32] <troy_s> basically it takes the standard naming scheme and maps the icons to it for viewing?
[10:32] <troy_s> am i correct in that?
[10:32] <andreasn> yes
[10:33] <andreasn> it creates links for old weird names to the new names
[10:33] <troy_s> so if i ran it, and had say, the tango cvs in a dir, i would be able to point it to that dir and it would map them accordingly?
[10:33] <andreasn> hm, I'm not sure, I haven't tried that
[10:45] <troy_s> hrm...
[10:47] <andreasn> any luck?
[10:51] <troy_s> what is the name of the script
[10:51] <troy_s> i can't seem to find it
[10:51] <troy_s> i used the ubuntu repos
[10:52] <andreasn> icon-naming-utils I think
[10:52] <troy_s> yes that's the repo name
[10:52] <troy_s> but the script itself?
[10:52] <andreasn> hm, I always used to compile it
[10:52] <andreasn> from svn
[10:52] <andreasn> that usually did the tricl
[10:53] <troy_s> icon-name-mapping ;)
[10:55] <troy_s> grr
[10:55] <troy_s> new svn of inkscape doesn't want to build
[10:55] <andreasn> mine neither
[10:56] <andreasn> trying to solve it in #inkscape
[10:56] <troy_s> where is yours bombing out.
[10:56] <andreasn> what did you run into?
[10:56] <troy_s> error
[10:56] <andreasn> http://pastebin.com/829210
[10:57] <troy_s> waiting for pastebin.com