[01:31] <joejaxx> ajmitch: the reason i am asking is about my aforementioned statements about cell processing
[01:31] <joejaxx> support*
[01:32] <joejaxx> i do not know if that is any area that ubuntu wants to go in
[01:32] <joejaxx> an*
[12:34] <gnomefreak> not sure if this is known or not but lvm is having major issues on the 2.6.19 series kernels it seems
[12:36] <fabbione> gnomefreak: what kind of issues?
[12:36] <fabbione> clearly being a bit more specific is totally optional...
[12:36] <gnomefreak> fabbione: from my understanding its not booting due to initramfs
[12:37] <fabbione> gnomefreak: it's not a kernel problem. I just uploaded a fix for lvm-common
[12:37] <gnomefreak> fabbione: ah ok
[12:37] <fabbione>  lvm-common (1.5.20ubuntu8) feisty; urgency=low
[12:37] <fabbione>  .
[12:37] <fabbione>    * Change local-top and hook prereq on mdadm and not md.
[12:37] <fabbione>    (Closes Ubuntu: #72387)
[12:37] <fabbione>  .
[12:37] <fabbione>    * Bump Depends on mdadm to make sure mdadm is available.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> that would be it ty
[12:39] <fabbione> if you can't boot in the system, just add "break" without "" to the boot options
[12:39] <fabbione> that will bring you to initramfs shell
[12:39] <fabbione> read manually /init
[12:39] <fabbione> and once you get to execute local-top stuff
[12:40] <fabbione> make sure to run udev before mdadm
[12:40] <fabbione> and then lvm
[12:40] <fabbione> once that's done
[12:40] <fabbione> crtl+d
[12:40] <gnomefreak> thats before the update?
[12:42] <fabbione> if you cannot boot into the system, you will need to recover somehow
[12:42] <fabbione> and that's a way to do it
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ok ill let them know ty
[12:45] <fabbione> if they can't recover well.. they shouldn't be running feisty..
[12:45] <gnomefreak> they shouldnt be running it anyway IMO
[12:46] <siretart> fabbione: how about a tag in malone for bugs which potentially break booting the system?
[12:49] <fabbione> siretart: and what would that solve?
[12:49] <fabbione> people don't look at malone anyway before upgrading
[12:50] <fabbione> they only cry afterwards
[12:50] <siretart> well, I've been looking through a whole bunch of package bug pages for trying to find out what problem ajmitch is talking about
[12:51] <siretart> he told something about his system wouldn't boot anymore because of some lvm+mdadm fuckage
[12:51] <fabbione> siretart: and i told him that i was going to work on it as soon as i was back home with test equipment
[12:51] <siretart> in the end, I didn't find any bug report about his problem, so I refrained from upgrading my system to feisty
[12:52] <fabbione> siretart: well it was non obvious breakage. there were more than one bug
[12:52] <siretart> the problems I want to solve: reduction of duplicate bugs filed, better overview if it was 'currently' a good idea to wait with upgrading
[12:52] <fabbione> and one is still to be sorted
[12:53] <fabbione> siretart: the bug was filed in lvm-common where it did belong
[12:53] <siretart> well, somehow I managed to overlook it
[12:55] <fabbione> there is also a bug in initramfs-tools prereq handling
[12:56] <fabbione> mdadm was still pointing to udev
[12:56] <fabbione> but udev was not being executed at all before mdadm
[12:56] <fabbione> and that was because of lvm prereq on md instead of mdadm
[12:56] <fabbione> that was defenitily not obvious
[12:59] <siretart> do you have bugnumbers where I can subscribe to?
[12:59] <fabbione> #72387
[12:59] <fabbione> already fixed
[12:59] <siretart> (you see why I think tags are a good idea?)
[12:59] <siretart> ok
[02:15] <BenC> kylem: ping
[03:14] <zul> hey BenC 
[03:14] <zul> how was the flight back?
[03:17] <kylem> BenC, morning.
[03:17] <kylem> BenC, (showering, to answer your question...)
[03:17] <BenC> zul: yo
[03:18] <BenC> kylem: you shower before work? :)
[03:19] <BenC> kylem: Feel like taking on the backlog of dapper/edgy update patches I have?
[03:19] <kylem> sure.
[03:20] <BenC> I'll mbox them and send them over...they should all apply to the {edgy,dapper}-updates.git tree's without problems
[03:20] <kylem> okie doke.
[03:20] <BenC> do you know if your gpg key is ready for uploads?
[03:21] <mjg59> Kyle's certainly not in core-dev yet
[03:21] <kylem> BenC, i don't think i can upload, need to go through technical board or something first.
[03:21] <mjg59> kylem: I get to hold your career in my hands. Mwahahahahahahaha.
[03:22] <kylem> mjg59, cute. :P
[03:22] <mjg59> Now I have to go and move fruitflies between bottles.
[03:22] <thom> pretty similar really
[03:27] <BenC> kylem: sent
[03:27] <kylem> BenC, k.
[03:45] <Keybuk> this reminds me
[03:45] <Keybuk> we still don't have a technical board
[03:47] <zul> heh
[03:49] <mjg59> Oh, yeah
[03:49] <mjg59> Wasn't that meant to be sorted by tomorrow?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> no techboard?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> no CC either
[04:36] <kylem> BenC, have you reviewed all these as well, or should i take a look for inanity.
[04:37] <BenC> kylem: I haven't reviewed them at all, they've just been filling up my u-k mbox
[04:37] <kylem> i'll try to give them a once-over too.
[05:34] <zul> heh users are already complaining about 2.6.19
[05:51] <fabbione> zul: if they complain about mdadm and lvm point them to userland
[05:51] <fabbione> zul: i am working on fixing mdadm
[05:55] <siretart> fabbione++! :)
[05:57] <fabbione> siretart: i won't fix it today tho. i need some time to understand why edgy -> feisty upgrade fails and it happens only at the first time. otherwise a retry will work
[06:00] <siretart> fabbione: I won't upgrade my edgy system to feisty today anyway. I doubt I will find enough time for debugging this week
[06:34] <gnomefreak> nice warning apt gives when you try to remove mdadm :)
[06:36] <gnomefreak> s/apt/dpkg
[09:48] <zul> *sigh*
[09:49] <kylem> hmm?
[09:49] <zul> i dislike doing sql
[10:05] <sioux> hi
[10:05] <sioux> i have a bad problem with usbdisk on my dell c600. the usbdisk is mouted ok but after a some the system freeze and the mouse too freeze the only thing that i can do is force a restart manually :-( who can help me?
[10:06] <sioux> I also have some errors in dkesg like cpufreq: change failed with new_state 0 and result 0
[10:07] <sioux> my distro is edgy but dapper was the same
[10:07] <sioux> :-(
[10:11] <BenC> sioux: File a bug and attach dmesg output (file it against linux-source-2.6.17)
[10:13] <sioux> benc how can i attach a dmesg
[10:13] <BenC> sioux: dmesg > dmesg.txt
[10:13] <BenC> The bug tracker has an option to attach files
[10:14] <sioux> and how can i run the bug traker 
[10:16] <sioux> [17180475.240000]  cpufreq: change failed with new_state 0 and result 0
[10:16] <sioux> [17180478.188000]  hdc: request sense failure: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
[10:16] <sioux> [17180478.188000]  hdc: request sense failure: error=0xb0 { LastFailedSense=0x0b }
[10:16] <sioux> [17180478.188000]  cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[10:16] <sioux> [17180489.108000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host system error, PCI problems?
[10:16] <sioux> [17180489.108000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: host controller halted, very bad!
[10:16] <sioux> [17180489.108000]  uhci_hcd 0000:00:07.2: HC died; cleaning up
[10:16] <sioux> [17180489.108000]  cpufreq: change failed with new_state 0 and result 0
[10:16] <sioux> [17180489.108000]  usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[10:17] <sioux> these errors freeze the system if i plug a usbdisk on dell c600
[10:22] <sioux> ben collins! did you see the dmesg errors?
[10:38] <kylem> Unpacking 326 objects
[10:38] <kylem> Total 326, written 326 (delta 265), reused 0 (delta 0)
[10:38] <kylem> fatal: unresolved deltas left after unpacking
[10:38] <kylem> unpack unpacker exited with error code
[10:38] <kylem> ng refs/heads/master n/a (unpacker error)
[10:39] <sioux> ?
[10:40] <tormod> sioux: I gave you the link to the bug tracker.
[10:41] <sioux> tormod where is the link
[10:41] <tormod> sioux: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+filebug
[10:42] <sioux> :-)