[01:13] <mhoot> hi everyone
[01:15] <Burgundavia> hey mhoot
[01:15] <mhoot> hey Burgundavia - how are ya? :)
[01:15] <Burgundavia> not bad
[01:16] <mhoot> glad to hear it!
[05:35] <nixternal> heh
[05:37] <tonyyarusso>  That was ominousish
[05:41] <nixternal> i was messing with a scrip tand it did /quote chanserv op all
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> ah
[07:01] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: boing
[07:01] <Madpilot> Mrh?
[07:02] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: evening
[07:02] <Madpilot> hi all
[07:02] <lotusleaf> any musicians?
[07:03] <lotusleaf> we should get someone to put music to Madpilot's pending posse poster
[07:03] <lotusleaf> get something fresh and youtube it
[07:06] <lotusleaf> I rolled the current posters into .zips, after discovering a lot of people direct linking to load the large .png on their site around the world. :P Added links to inkscape so the windows retar^H^h^h^h^h users know how to print them
[07:11] <lotusleaf> someone said they shot out e-mails to some boingboing peeps, hoping it will make boingboing's frontpage, too, eventually.
[07:11] <poningru> lotusleaf: supposedly it will make it monday... but no guarentees
[07:12] <lotusleaf> poningru: awesome, thx =)
[07:12] <lotusleaf> poningru: hey, at least it made digg :)
[07:12] <lotusleaf> but boingboing has some slammin traffic
[07:13] <poningru> I think digg has more traffic than boingboing
[07:13] <lotusleaf> poningru: really? a varied audience between them though I'd imagine
[07:13] <poningru> true
[07:14] <lotusleaf> does digg have public traffic stats?
[07:14] <poningru> boingboing is more normal/artsy audience than digg
[07:14] <poningru> which is more techy imho
[07:14] <lotusleaf> boingboing does via awstats link on their front page
[07:14] <poningru> nothing to back all of that up though
[07:14] <lotusleaf> poningru: right, which is the definite audience to appeal to! :)
[07:14] <poningru> too true
[07:14] <lotusleaf> the mole people already know what's going on in tech
[07:15] <poningru> hehe yeah
[07:15] <poningru> is there is an ubuntu embedded irc channel?
[07:15] <lotusleaf> good question, dunno
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> I'm not aware of one - yet
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> lotusleaf: I would be offended that you called us "mole people"...if I had left the house all weekend.
[07:20] <poningru> rofl
[07:20] <lotusleaf> *<:O)
[07:21] <poningru> ot: I was thinking lets startup a ubuntu for ps3 thing just like fc5
[07:22] <lotusleaf> poningru: cool, no one's jumped on that yet?
[07:23] <poningru> dont think so
[07:23] <poningru> not sure...
[07:24] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, can you handle ~150Kb of attachements to your email address? Got the 'SABDFL has a posse' done.
[07:24] <Madpilot> should I do 'Mark has a posse' too, given that 'SABDFL' is a bit of an in-joke for Ubuntu?
[07:26] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:27] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: yeah!
[07:27] <poningru> uh... no
[07:27] <poningru> sabdfl only...
[07:28] <poningru> cause then people will try to figure out what that is
[07:28] <poningru> viral marketing and all that
[07:28] <lotusleaf> poningru: good idea
[07:29] <Madpilot> OK, in-joke only. ;) SVG & PNG inbound, lotusleaf
[07:29] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: roger that
[07:30] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: are these works in progress or material for posting? If the latter, I'll have it up in a few shakes of a lizard's drip
[07:30] <Madpilot> these are postable
[07:30] <Madpilot> ...a lizard's what???
[07:31] <lotusleaf> cool, I'm on it..
[07:35] <Madpilot> sent to your tuxfamily email, lotusleaf
[07:35] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: thx
[07:35] <Madpilot> I just learned that 'wirelizard.ca' is available, as a URL. Too bad Canadian domains are so flippin' expensive to register...
[07:35] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: got it, gonna slap it together in a .zip w/ thumbnail preview and up it to the site, will be a few =)
[07:36] <lotusleaf> is there a readme included?
[07:36] <Madpilot> yes
[07:36] <lotusleaf> cool, thx
[07:36] <Madpilot> three files, SVG, PNG, updated readme.
[07:36] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: your machine edgy or dapper?
[07:36] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, Dapper
[07:36] <poningru> :(
[07:37] <Burgundavia> can you do open add/remove and search for "nvidia" for me?
[07:38] <Madpilot> Sysinfo & Trigger - a racing game - are the only two results
[07:38] <Burgundavia> hmm
[07:38] <elkbuntu> no idea why i havent shown you guys this before, and dont go publishing this as an 'ooh look here' link but stats for the ubuntucounter are at http://ubuntucounter.org/awstats/awstats.pl
[07:39] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: wow, 63% still on windows eh?
[07:39] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, yeah, those are the ones inadvertantly seeing the buttons, mainly
[07:39] <Burgundavia> ah
[07:40] <elkbuntu> the browser figures compared to the OS figures is cool though
[07:41] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:41] <Burgundavia> I want official download numbers
[07:41] <Burgundavia> I pinged Jane awhile back but have not heard anything recently
[07:41] <elkbuntu> allegedly, kubuntu is on-par or higher than ubuntu :|
[07:42] <elkbuntu> from what i've been told
[07:42] <Burgundavia> interesting
[07:42] <elkbuntu> the counter results show a different story
[07:42] <Burgundavia> so does distrowatch
[07:42] <Burgundavia> but then again, online polls usually show 60/40 KDE/GNOME
[07:42] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:43] <Madpilot> that's because KDE users are noisier ;)
[07:44] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, if that were the case, i'd have lots more kubuntu users registered
[07:44] <Madpilot> heh. what is the rough Gnome/KDE/XFCE/other breakdown on the counter, elkbuntu?
[07:45] <elkbuntu> http://ubuntucounter.org
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: Wait, are your results published now?
[07:48] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, no.
[07:48] <nixternal> busy tonight ey
[07:48] <elkbuntu> counter != surveys
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Doh.  I knew that
[07:49] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: you should email all those hoary and warty users and warn them that they are running unsupported versions of Ubuntu
[07:49] <elkbuntu> hehe. tempting, but i'd rather not
[07:49] <Burgundavia> why not? I would consider it is a public service
[07:50] <elkbuntu> that'd be like.. effort
[07:50] <Burgundavia> then give me access to the db
[07:52] <elkbuntu> can i trust you with 10k email addresses?
[07:53] <Burgundavia> the only thing I would do to them would be autosign them up to ubuntu-news :0
[07:53] <Burgundavia> :)
[07:53] <poningru> rofl
[07:54] <Burgundavia> and then maybe feed thme into Userful's spaminator
[07:54] <poningru> elkbuntu: do you have a privacy policy on your website?
[07:54] <poningru> ;)
[07:54] <poningru> elkbuntu: did I thank you properly for that post the other day?
[07:55] <elkbuntu> poningru, yes, and i dont remember
 oh and, you bastard! <-- but jono did
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Say, what's your stickers status?
[07:55] <Burgundavia> ah, crappers
[07:56] <Burgundavia> I keep meanign to write that letter
[07:56] <Burgundavia> let me delete some more wiki pages and then I will get to it
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Sure - whatcha deleting?
[07:56] <poningru> bwhahahha
[07:57] <Burgundavia> clearing out crurft from the help wiki
[07:59] <Burgundavia> mostly via deletion
[08:01] <Burgundavia> man, this is fun
[08:03] <Madpilot> exercising your destructive urges?
[08:04] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: I'd like to place external links on the page wherever it says Madpilot, where would you like them to go?
[08:04] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, for now, send them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Madpilot
[08:04] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: done, thanks
[08:04] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: pretty much
[08:04] <lotusleaf> finishing this up, few more mins
[08:07] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: any way to make a png with transparent background look good reduced ? I tried as png but it degrades in quality, as jpg it just turns a solid black color
[08:08] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, sorry, I forgot to add a white background to the 'posse' image. Give me 5, I'll redo & resend them
[08:08] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: thx :)
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> I'm purging hundreds of FF bookmarks
[08:08] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: which are you resending, just the png?
[08:08] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, both
[08:08] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: k
[08:10] <lotusleaf> "<elkbuntu> no idea why i havent shown you guys this before, and dont go publishing this as an 'ooh look here' link but stats for the ubuntucounter are" now available when google indexes the logs directory =) woo! thx
[08:11] <lotusleaf> people are still using warty?
[08:12] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: ding dong, a special delivery has arrived, thx
[08:12] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, yes, but it's not 'ooh look'
[08:13] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: :)
[08:13] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: looks very nice!
[08:13] <elkbuntu> its not like it is being brought to everyone's attention only to lure morons trying to sway the stats
[08:14] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: exactly
[08:14] <lotusleaf> like a certain other distro did with firefox and distrowatch, anyway that's ot. ;)
[08:15] <elkbuntu> yeah
[08:41] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: posted, plz check links & md5sums for indy verification thx
[08:41] <poningru> who did what now?
[08:41] <lotusleaf> poningru: new poster by Madpilot is up @ http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/obeyubuntu/
[08:42] <lotusleaf> poningru: sabdfl has a posse ;)
[08:42] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, all seems to work, cool
[08:42] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: md5's too? great, thanks, and nice work :)
[08:42] <Madpilot> didn't bother checking the md5s, just the rest
[08:42] <poningru> woah awesome
[08:43] <lotusleaf> poningru: ;)
[08:43] <lotusleaf> an excellent idea
[08:43] <poningru> yeah and plaster campus with it
[08:43] <lotusleaf> would look nice on my boxes
[08:44] <poningru> I really think that should replace the ubuntu buttons
[08:44] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, this is the font used on the roughcut posters: http://www.dafont.com/dirty-headline.font
[08:45] <elkbuntu> the posse one would do good as a 10x10 sticker methinks
[08:45] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: cool thx
[08:45] <Madpilot> the font I used on the SABDFL one is called "Another", which is freakin' impossible to google for...
[08:45] <poningru> exactly
[08:45] <lotusleaf> haha
[08:45] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, are these non-copyrighted fonts?
[08:46] <poningru> Madpilot: uh... that site says free for personal usage
[08:46] <lotusleaf> now I can cover up the word microsoft when I see it with these stickers
[08:46] <Madpilot> actually, it's on dafont too - http://www.dafont.com/another.font
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the font one that everyone lies fol LCD screens
[08:46] <poningru> Madpilot: thats not exactly free use
[08:46] <poningru> err personal
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> err that everyone likes for LCD screens
[08:47] <Madpilot> poningru, hmm, the original homepage for Dirty Headline doesn't specify the 'personal use only' part - http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/fonts.htm
[08:48] <Madpilot> http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/fonts2.htm actually
[08:58] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: thread updated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296742
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> lotusleaf: that's hilarious
[09:00] <Admiral_Chicago> i like the sabdfl one, i'd seen the other ubuntu ones
[09:02] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: indeed, I love it =)
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> lotusleaf: i gave a presentation on Ubuntu and everyone loled when i told them what Sabdfl meant
[09:03] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: =)
[09:04] <lotusleaf> I bet
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> they also onjoyed Baby Jesus
[09:04] <lotusleaf> now all I need is a death star printer
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> printer mod?
[09:04] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: a massive room with printers churning out posters/stickers nonstop
[09:05] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: had a few of those down here for various rallies in the 90'ies
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i thought you meant a printer that could destroy a whole planet
[09:05] <lotusleaf> lol
[09:05] <Admiral_Chicago> lotusleaf: here?
[09:05] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: well, not in this channel =)
[09:08] <jenda> lotusleaf: http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/obeyubuntu/ << Copyright infringement! :)
[09:09] <lotusleaf> jenda: na, it's not OBEYubuntu/
[09:09] <lotusleaf> :P
[09:09] <lotusleaf> lol
[09:09] <jenda> I meant the website.
[09:09] <elkbuntu> it's going to be interesting to see what challenge posse posters turn up...
[09:09] <lotusleaf> jenda: nah, it links back in the header
[09:09] <lotusleaf> jenda: you mean to DIY? yeah, read the tags
[09:10] <lotusleaf> jenda: I'll have to add that as a CLICKable link though, thanks =) I rushed it
[09:11] <lotusleaf> jenda: line 14 of the html
[09:11] <lotusleaf> jenda: alt="
[09:11] <MenZa> jenda: Krk..* 2?
[09:11] <MenZa> (your address)
[09:12] <jenda> lotusleaf: found :)
[09:12] <lotusleaf> jenda: let me re-up it with a clickable link, thx =)
[09:12] <jenda> MenZa: yep...
[09:12] <MenZa> good good
[09:12] <jenda> lotusleaf: you might want to add that the website is MenZa's work - that's what I meant, not teh DIY site.
[09:12] <MenZa> jenda: now I know your address off heart :p
[09:12] <MenZa> oh that was nothing
[09:13] <lotusleaf> jenda: oh? MenZa made that template?
[09:13] <MenZa> I did.
[09:13] <MenZa> Figured I could repay jenda that way ;)
[09:13] <jenda> lotusleaf: Although I plan to steal your page and use it on diy.(dev)ubuntu.com
[09:13] <jenda> hehe :)
[09:13] <lotusleaf> MenZa: hello! May I ask where you'd like me to link to aside from DIY with the name MenZa mentioned? :)
[09:13] <lotusleaf> jenda: :(
[09:13] <jenda> it's helped a lot - and now Daniel Buch is finishing it.
[09:13] <MenZa> No need lotusleaf
[09:13] <MenZa> Just looks neat in my portfolio, 'sall ;)
[09:13] <lotusleaf> MenZa: but I wanna
[09:14] <jenda> lotusleaf: just kidding - I'll ask you first, and then steal it...
[09:14] <lotusleaf> lol
[09:14] <MenZa> lotusleaf: http://menza.org then ;)
[09:14] <MenZa> Lasse Havelund
[09:14] <MenZa> I don't need it though :p
[09:14] <lotusleaf> MenZa: k thx
[09:14] <lotusleaf> MenZa: too bad :)
[09:14] <MenZa> lol
[09:14] <MenZa> Cheers
[09:14] <Admiral_Chicago> speaknig of marketing. am i the only one that find the whole Killroy thing annoying?
[09:15] <Madpilot> killroy wasn't here?
[09:15] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_Was_Here
[09:15] <jenda> ah
[09:16] <jenda> lotusleaf: I intend to make a similar page for all Ubuntu diy material on diy.(dev)ubuntu.com, so Brian's posters have a spot reserved as well.
[09:17] <lotusleaf> jenda: good, the more the merrier ;)
[09:17] <Madpilot> jenda, could you grab all the posters & readme from lotusleaf's page and stick them in our BZR repo, please?
[09:17] <jenda> I was just going to :)
[09:18] <jenda> Madpilot: now that you're here...
[09:18] <Madpilot> ya?
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> BZR == bazaar?
[09:18] <jenda> The posters i printed are nearly gone - only have some 185 left, so I'm thinking what's next...
[09:19] <jenda> Admiral_Chicago: yep
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: i know it's an "arch revision program
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> but what does that mean?
[09:19] <jenda> Madpilot: so, I've had two suggestions - Obey posters, and obey t-shirts... sounds good to you?
[09:20] <Madpilot> phone, bbiab
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> i think ubuntu should have an official site, instead of cafe freeprees or whatever is printing stuff
[09:23] <Madpilot> jenda, go for it. poningru did point out that there might be some licensing issue w/ the font I used on the roughcut posters, though. Give me a few days to check w/ the creator of that, or to redraw the posters
[09:23] <jenda> ok, cool
[09:24] <jenda> But do you think I could ask you to polish them a little bit? (I have a few suggestions)
[09:24] <jenda> (BTW - authors always get a few free prints)
[09:24] <lotusleaf> jenda: amended, & thank you :)
[09:25] <Madpilot> jenda, suggest away!
[09:25] <jenda> Alrighty...
[09:25] <lotusleaf> MenZa: your're linked and credited on that page now :)
[09:25] <jenda> 1) the little smudge you have in the logo...
[09:25] <MenZa> :)
[09:25] <lotusleaf> MenZa: a beautiful design, btw
[09:25] <Madpilot> damn... my landlord's crappy router seems to have tanked again - no DNS resolution...
[09:26] <MenZa> thanks lotusleaf
[09:26] <lotusleaf> MenZa: yw
[09:26] <Madpilot> jenda, the one that's identical all over?
[09:26] <jenda> The font is really rugged etc., but the logo is white, and the only 'flaw' is 8 smudges - all exactly the same.
[09:27] <Admiral_Chicago> it's really hard to switch from Paradise Lost to Ubunutu
[09:27] <jenda> Madpilot: So if you could achieve the same look the font has on the logo, it would look a _lot_ better, IMO :)
[09:27] <jenda> (logo & the thick white lines)
[09:28] <Madpilot> jenda, actually, I was thinking of going the opposite way - redrawing the text to be cleaner
[09:28] <jenda> ok
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> no i think the lines should look more..worn
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> i was jut about to do an edit to see how it would look
[09:28] <jenda> but - don't keep all the smudges the same :)
[09:29] <lotusleaf> what about a tiny jendafish logo in the corner
[09:29] <jenda> :-D
[09:29] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, no, the tiny wirelizard doesn't need company ;)
[09:29] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: :P
[09:30] <Admiral_Chicago> Madpilot: do you think you can recreate the zip with the files in a folder?
[09:30] <Madpilot> having all the smudges the same was a bit of a private joke; it amuses me to be going to so much effort to reproduce errors that printers try hard to get rid of
[09:30] <Madpilot> Admiral_Chicago, I didn't actually build the zip, lotusleaf did
[09:30] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: paradise lost?
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> the story by John Milton about the fall of the devil and Original Sin
[09:31] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: yeah, but Goetia is different =) you mean people read zip comments today? :P
[09:31] <jenda> Madpilot: ok - cool... and do you still want them to be that way? :)
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Goetia?
[09:32] <lotusleaf> Admiral_Chicago: #goetia
[09:32] <Madpilot> jenda, I'll keep fiddling with the images, might do more variation in the smudges
[09:32] <jenda> ok, that would be cool :)
[09:33] <jenda> Madpilot: Next thing... what aboutthe thin white outline around the logo? What's it for? IMO, you sohuld either remove it, or add it to the text too.
[09:34] <Madpilot> if I end up re-drawing the text, I might
[09:34] <jenda> and on the left dot in the logo, teh line goes uninterupted around the entire dot - and doesn't look good. I'd make it more imperfect :)
[09:34] <jenda> ok
[09:42] <lotusleaf> jenda: you will, of course, be making black t-shirts as some have almost begged for in the forums, with this/these logo/s, right? :)
[09:42] <jenda> yes :)
[09:42] <jenda> Do you think $10 is good price for a t-shirt?
[09:42] <lotusleaf> jenda: /o/ hooray!
[09:43] <lotusleaf> jenda: that's a delicious price
[09:43] <jenda> leally? cool :)
[09:43] <lotusleaf> jenda: have you seen cafepress?
[09:43] <lotusleaf> jenda: lots of sites charge at least $14 - 20 bux
[09:44] <lotusleaf> jenda: if you can get a black t-shirt with the ubuntu roughcut logo on the back (and/or one including a tiny ubuntu logo on the front left breast) that would rock
[09:45] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: perfectly reasonable
[09:45] <lotusleaf> jenda: guess you could also run a poll on the forums with design ideas
[09:45] <jenda> cool :)
[09:46] <jenda> I like the roughcut design so much I don't think I'll be doing a poll ;)
[09:46] <lotusleaf> ahhaah
[09:46] <lotusleaf> jenda: which is what I was thinking in the first place ;)
[09:47] <jenda> Madpilot: one more thing...
[09:47] <jenda> Madpilot: teh trademark notice should be complete, I can't print otherwise : Ubuntu, Canonical and the Ubuntu Logo are trademarks of Canonical Ltd.
[09:48] <Madpilot> good point.
[09:51] <lotusleaf> http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/  <-- still missing kubuntu poster, needs the new poster too
[09:52] <jenda> lotusleaf: alright, alright...
[09:52] <lotusleaf> jenda: thx! :)
[09:52] <Madpilot> jenda, thanks. I should have another go at figuring out bzr; svn wasn't that hard to learn...
[09:53] <lotusleaf> jenda: ++ the latest readme he included should overwrite the old
[09:53] <lotusleaf> jenda: thx
[09:53] <jenda> I did.
[09:53] <lotusleaf> r0x0r
[09:59] <lotusleaf> props to the first person who gets a roughcut tattoo
[10:00] <Madpilot> I've been waiting for an Ubuntu logo tattoo to appear...
[10:00] <MenZa> lotusleaf: I'd do it, if I was of age to get one ;)
[10:00] <elkbuntu> i've been considering it
[10:01] <MenZa> :o
[10:01] <MenZa> :O
[10:01] <jenda> wow
[10:01] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: which one, the logo or the sabdfl? :)
[10:01] <jenda> great iea.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> um.. logo
[10:01] <lotusleaf> haha
[10:01] <lotusleaf> cool!
[10:01] <jenda> I think my friend would never talk to me again.
[10:01] <Madpilot> elkbuntu, in full colour, or all in black?
[10:01] <jenda> s/friend/friends/
[10:01] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, probably color
[10:01] <lotusleaf> jenda: over a tattoo?
[10:02] <jenda> elkbuntu: on the forehead, or on your shoulder
[10:02] <lotusleaf> yeah!
[10:02] <Madpilot> gah... tattoos involve needles; I've never been good with needles... :P
[10:02] <elkbuntu> jenda, undecided
[10:02] <jenda> lotusleaf: over being so deep in Ubuntu that I even get a tattoo :)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: Same here
[10:02] <lotusleaf> jenda: aahhh ;)
[10:04] <jenda> lol... somebody is trying to send me a file called secrets.exe
[10:05] <elkbuntu> rofl
[10:05] <MenZa> jenda: yeah, they kept doing that on another server for me :p
[10:05] <MenZa> I'd just have them g-lined
[10:05] <MenZa> #*-social, jenda
[10:06] <lotusleaf> jenda: you don't block dcc * ?
[10:06] <MenZa> lotusleaf: why would you?
[10:06] <jenda> MenZa: I told christel.
[10:06] <MenZa> spiffy
[10:07] <MenZa> /whowas <nick>
[10:07] <jenda> now, I have to install wine to get me those secrets!
[10:07] <MenZa> rofl
[10:07] <MenZa> awesome
[10:07] <MenZa> tell me what it is when you've got it
[10:07] <MenZa> :D
[10:07] <jenda> it won't transfer :/
[10:07] <MenZa> you know
[10:07] <MenZa> I thought about running it in wine
[10:07] <MenZa> just.. cbf anyway
[10:08] <lotusleaf> MenZa: because I don't want messages like that? :)
[10:08] <jenda> damn, he's dead.
[10:08] <MenZa> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20061120.jpg
[10:08] <MenZa> yep
[10:08] <MenZa> they disconnect the moment they've tried sending lol
[10:08] <jenda> Next time I need to _get_ the virus first, then get the user killed.
[10:08] <MenZa> just a minor nuisance
[10:12] <lotusleaf> jenda: never know, with wine it may work even better than in windows ;P
[10:13] <jenda> lotusleaf: indeed :)
[10:13] <jenda> But I lost it. I'll get myself some other virus...
[10:13] <jenda> Nah, screw it. Should lose time with that :)
[10:13] <Madpilot> there was a great article somewhere on trying to run Win viruses on Wine
[10:13] <jenda> Madpilot: I read it :)
[10:14] <Madpilot> a nice take on the usual "Linux isn't ready for the desktop" whinge ;)
[10:15] <jenda> http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss
[10:16] <lotusleaf> wow, nice spam comment near the bottom ;P
[10:17] <MenZa> that's hilarious jenda
[10:17] <Madpilot> my DNS is still fubar'd... stoopid cheap router... cheap landlord...
[10:20] <jenda> lotusleaf: which one?
[10:20] <lotusleaf> jenda: nm nothing special, someone link spammed on the article you mentioned
[10:20] <lotusleaf> jenda: kinda fitting though, considering the topic ;)
[10:20] <jenda> ok 
[10:20] <MenZa> http://os.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=43827&cid=107366
[10:27] <lotusleaf> cmon boingboing, post it, post it, post it, post it!
[10:30] <jenda> nice...
[10:32] <poningru> Madpilot: nm re: licensing
[10:32] <poningru> we're good
[10:32] <Madpilot> poningru, did you email Cumberland?
[10:32] <poningru> arr?
[10:32] <poningru> no
[10:32] <poningru> no its legal to use even commercial fonts
[10:32] <poningru> for that kinda purpose
[10:33] <Madpilot> ya, thought it would be, but font licensing is f'ing strange territory
[10:33] <poningru> indeed
[10:34] <lotusleaf> I wanna see someone make an evil patent pusher poster against patents
[10:34] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, huh?
[10:35] <MenZa> lotusleaf: I'll consider it.
[10:35] <lotusleaf> MenZa: awesome, thx
[10:35] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: against the whole software patent industry
[10:35] <Madpilot> jenda, what're you selling your posters for again?
[10:35] <MenZa> jenda: :D
[10:35] <jenda> Madpilot: a buck a piece
[10:36] <jenda> MenZa: did you get the stickers yet?
[10:36] <Madpilot> jenda, shipping included, to Canada?
[10:36] <jenda> Madpilot: nope, shipping is an extra $5, flat fee for up to 25 posters.
[10:36] <MenZa> jenda: stickers yeah
[10:36] <MenZa> jenda: told you about that too ;9
[10:36] <jenda> cool.
[10:37] <MenZa> ;)
[10:37] <MenZa> *
[10:37] <jenda> MenZa: really? damn.
[10:37] <jenda> :)
[10:37] <Madpilot> jenda, USD, right?
[10:37] <jenda> yep
[10:37] <jenda> but if that meant currency conversions to you, you might as well convert to CZK ;)
[10:37] <Madpilot> jenda, cool, reserve 5 for me, I'll get money to you via Paypal tomorrow when I have functional DNS
[10:38] <jenda> Madpilot: I'll send them today, then.
[10:38] <jenda> Lucky bastard ;)
[10:38] <jenda> send me your addy by email.
[10:38] <jenda> (@ubuntu.com)
[10:38] <Madpilot> jenda, will do, tomorrow
[10:39] <jenda> heh - I'm sending shipments on mondays... so if I get your address now, you'll get them a week earlier ;)
[10:40] <Madpilot> I'll have to wait, I just remembered I need to update my Paypal account first anyway
[10:40] <jenda> Brian, you can pay whenever - in a month, if you want, but I need your shipping address _now_ :)
[10:41] <Madpilot> jenda, PM then?
[10:41] <jenda> sure
[10:45] <jenda> MenZa: can you believe it... I need your address... again :)
[10:46] <jenda> It seems I copied it directly on teh envelope last time... and you have teh envelope :)
[10:46] <MenZa> aha
[10:46] <MenZa> haha*
[10:57] <lotusleaf> a poster of this too http://www.mneptok.com/pony-cd-cover.jpg
[10:58] <poningru> wtf
[10:58] <poningru> dear god no
[10:58] <jenda> ROFL
[10:58] <poningru> my lug will laugh my ass off
[10:58] <lotusleaf> do a /whois mnepton
[10:58] <poningru> the fc and sled guys will never let me live this down
[10:59] <poningru> ...
[10:59] <lotusleaf> he posted the url in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:59] <lotusleaf> ;P
[10:59] <lotusleaf> #ubuntu-devel: <mnepton> dear God. please send me a pony. and deliver me from half-baked compositing. love, mnep.
[11:02] <lotusleaf> lol
[11:03] <jenda> Madpilot: what SW do you use? I'll be needing a printer-friendly format in the end, probably pdf. (other than that, I think they take eps.
[11:03] <jenda> )
[11:04] <Madpilot> jenda, Inkscape; the version in Edgy apparently does PDF export nicely. guess I need to upgrade...
[11:05] <jenda> I guess I can export from inkscape myself.
[11:05] <jenda> (edgy)
[11:06] <Madpilot> Inkscape does EPS export too; I know zip about EPS, though.
[11:07] <jenda> I know that Inkscape doesn't export it too well, though.
[11:07] <jenda> I can get the printer to check it first, though.
[11:54] <lotusleaf> jenda: 404 now for around an hour or so @ http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/
[11:54] <lotusleaf> fwiw
[11:55] <jenda> yeah yeah yeah, I'm working on it :)
[11:55] <lotusleaf> jenda: oh, sorry ;)
[11:55] <jenda> nah, really, I just found out seconds ago, the cronjob failed :)
[11:55] <lotusleaf> haha
[11:56] <lotusleaf> jenda: do you do all the packing/shipping yourself?
[11:56] <jenda> and I'm expecting someone in a few minutes.
[11:56] <jenda> yes, of course. Minimising costs :)
[11:56] <lotusleaf> ah =)
[11:56] <jenda> damn, I should take a cut, too :/
[11:56] <jenda> (j/k)
[11:56] <lotusleaf> jenda: karma ;)
[11:56] <jenda> hehe :)
[11:57] <jenda> I think I will be taking a cut if it becomes routine. I was originally hoping I'd do one or two batches, and that would inspire others to do one or two batches... but here I am working on a fourth and fifth :)
[12:02] <lotusleaf> jenda: no argument there
[12:06] <jenda> oh well, we'll see - there are folks who have hinted that they might try and make some themselves.
[12:11] <lotusleaf> jenda: I'd like to find some glow in the dark like material to make some ubuntu stickers with, using the roughcut design
[12:11] <jenda> oooh
[12:11] <jenda> I've got this annoying blue LED on my subwoofer
[12:12] <jenda> I stuck one of MenZa's black-n-white Ubuntu stickers over it... and now it's a blue Ubuntu logo at night :)
[12:12] <MenZa> :D
[12:12] <MenZa> Pics!
[12:12] <MenZa> ;d
[12:12] <jenda> no cam :(
[12:12] <MenZa> :(
[12:12] <MenZa> Right, you mentioned
[12:12] <MenZa> :D
[12:12] <jenda> I could show her Beryl while at it.
[12:13] <jenda> 
[12:13] <MenZa> :D
[12:24] <Madpilot> need sleep. g'night all.
[12:24] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: nn
[12:39] <jenda> MenZa: you will notice the technological advancement I'm doing... the next package will have the address printed on ;)
[12:39] <MenZa> :D
[12:40] <jenda> weeell...
[12:40] <jenda> printed on a piece of paper and glued on.
[12:41] <MenZa> ftw
[12:42] <jenda> right... and I need to install this troublesome HP printer first ;)
[12:42] <MenZa> Mine never was :)
[12:42] <jenda> troublesome, or installed?
[12:43] <MenZa> installed.
[12:43] <MenZa> er
[12:43] <MenZa> troublesome.
[12:43] <MenZa> It was never troublesome.
[12:43] <MenZa> Just installed
[12:43] <MenZa> poof!
[12:44] <jenda> hehe :)
[12:44] <jenda> which model is it?
[12:45] <MenZa> er
[12:45] <MenZa> Two secs
[12:45] <MenZa> PSC 1215
[12:47] <jenda> never heard of...
[12:47] <jenda> mine's HPLJ1020
[12:47] <MenZa> CUPS did it for me
[12:48] <jenda> there, installed...
[12:48] <MenZa> ftw
[12:50] <jenda> yay, prints...
[01:11] <lotusleaf> jenda: ubuntu wrapping paper
[01:14] <jenda> Ain't got.
[01:14] <jenda> But I is got some of MenZa's black stickers, and I put one on each package ;)
[01:14] <lotusleaf> Ain't got yet. <-- fixed that for you ;)
[01:14] <lotusleaf> stickers, eh?
[01:14] <jenda> hehe... no fix the state, not the sentence ;)
[01:14] <jenda> *now
[01:14] <lotusleaf> so true
[01:18] <meatballhat9000> hallo all
[01:19] <lotusleaf> hello
[01:19] <meatballhat9000> I've been working with jenda on the diy site
[01:19] <meatballhat9000> http://diy.devubuntu.com/
[01:21] <meatballhat9000> I'd like to put the rough cuts posters on there, too
[01:36] <lotusleaf> meatballhat9000: the posters are PD, what's stopping you
[01:36] <lotusleaf> meatballhat9000: spread them far, spread them wide, and spread them some more =)
[01:43] <jenda> everyone, meet Dan Buch, Dan Buch, meet marketing team :)
[01:44] <meatballhat9000> hallo :-D
[01:45] <meatballhat9000> lotusleaf: that's the plan ...  at the moment, going to work this morning is stopping me :-)
[01:45] <lotusleaf> meatballhat9000: ah ;)
[01:47] <meatballhat9000> ...and I'll be changing my nick for the sake of ease (sorry...  new to __many__ things including IRC)
[01:54] <lotusleaf> danbuch929: sorry, I closed the window, what was your last PM?
[01:55] <lotusleaf> oh well.. ;/
[02:27] <jenda> *phew* Finally packed.
[02:28] <lotusleaf> jenda: dedicated
[02:28] <jenda> 
[02:29] <lotusleaf> jenda: there should be a jenda poster shack on the isle of man
[02:29] <lotusleaf> staffed with workers day and night
[02:29] <lotusleaf> delivering goodness to all ubuntuers
[02:29] <jenda> 10 packages of posters, 3 of stickers, 2 of CDs today.
[02:29] <lotusleaf> like santa, but with a better flag
[02:29] <jenda> hehe :-D
[02:30] <lotusleaf> jenda: do you toss the posters in tubes or ship em flat
[02:30] <lotusleaf> flat as in framed
[02:30] <jenda> I roll them up, and roll up two sheets of paper over that
[02:30] <lotusleaf> ah cool
[02:30] <lotusleaf> I wish there were frames that rolled up
[02:30] <jenda> altogether some 10 layers of paper protecting them - works well enough and costs about $0.10 ;)
[02:30] <jenda> hehe :)
[02:31] <jenda> framing is up to the recipient. I think I'll frame one for myself.
[02:32] <lotusleaf> I'm going to have to try some roughcut blacklight posters
[02:32] <jenda> I don't think I can help with blacklights... but the roughcuts, I'll be doing. I think they'll be cheap to print, too :)
[02:32] <lotusleaf> will have to see how costly that will be to produce
[02:33] <lotusleaf> awesome :)
[02:34] <lotusleaf> ya that's the thing, added cost in specialty goods
[02:35] <lotusleaf> one could go ghetto with a template and color in the white with blacklight reactive paint I suppose for posters
[02:35] <jenda> but i still have to get rid of 199 of HanZos posters first :)
[02:36] <jenda> ooh
[02:36] <lotusleaf> oh, nevermind me, I'm just talking out loud about it
[02:37] <lotusleaf> really ghetto is using yellow markers, which will show up under blacklight, but that's tacky
[02:37] <jenda> well, won't paper show under blacklight? :-D
[02:38] <lotusleaf> lol, yeah
[02:38] <lotusleaf> but I mean, having a cool glowing effect
[02:38] <MenZa> jenda: the form on the diy site is horrible
[02:38] <MenZa> Posters, that is
[02:38] <MenZa> You have a LIST of TLDs >.>
[02:38] <jenda> oh, I saw that.
[02:39] <jenda> I forgot to tell him.
[02:39] <lotusleaf> jenda: you've seen blacklight posters made for blacklights and under blacklights right?
[02:39] <jenda> it doesn't even have .cz in the list :)
[02:39] <MenZa> lol
[02:39] <jenda> lotusleaf: nope...
[02:39] <lotusleaf> really? wow
[02:39] <MenZa> or .dk, or .de, or .se, or .no, or .root, or .ws, or .po, or .es
[02:39] <lotusleaf> they're even making blacklight reactive tattoos now
[02:39] <jenda> but I think I've seen blacklight reactive stuff under blacklights in a laser game somewhere.
[02:39] <jenda> wow :)
[02:40] <MenZa> and around 200 others
[02:40] <MenZa> Or more :p
[02:40] <lotusleaf> http://blog.wired.com/blacklighttats/
[02:40] <lotusleaf> Blacklight Tattoos
[02:41] <lotusleaf> http://wiredblogs.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/xmlatomlifeblog29830jpeg_232.jpg
[02:41] <lotusleaf> ^ Let's Rock blacklight tattoo
[02:42] <MenZa> http://wiredblogs.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/xmlatomlifeblog29830jpeg_236.jpg<- I like this
[02:42] <jenda> OK that's it.
[02:42] <jenda> I want a blackligth Ubuntu Tatoo.
[02:42] <MenZa> haha
[02:42] <jenda> *tattoo
[02:42] <lotusleaf> MenZa: that's wild
[02:44] <lotusleaf> jenda: I'd get one between my eyes
[02:44] <lotusleaf> jenda: with the url ;)
[02:44] <jenda> hehe
[02:49] <lotusleaf> see the difference: http://wiredblogs.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/xmlatomlifeblog29830jpeg_230.jpg
[02:49] <lotusleaf> you can google for other blacklight examples
[03:10] <jenda> and now I gotta run, in order to be able to ship some of what I packed.
[03:11] <jenda> nah... too late.
[06:40] <jenda> MitchM: ping
[06:43] <MitchM> jenda, pong
[06:43] <MitchM> jenda, How are you? =)
[06:44] <jenda> complaint :)
[06:44] <MitchM> listening
[06:44] <jenda> I'm fine thanks, you?
[06:44] <MitchM> doing wonderful; thanks :)
[06:44] <jenda> complaint: /var/www/diy/images , owned by root.
[06:44] <jenda> Can't delete it :)
[06:44] <MitchM> har de har har!
[06:44] <jenda> So, once you get to it, please do delete it.
[06:45] <MitchM> delete what?
[06:45] <jenda> /var/www/diy/images
[06:45] <jenda> the entire dir
[06:46] <jenda> images_aux is used instead
[06:46] <MitchM> haha. what I meant was; I already deleted it.
[06:46] <MitchM> all is well =)
[06:46] <jenda> oh :)
[06:46] <MitchM> dont know how that would have snuck in there....
[06:46] <jenda> you murderer! It's dead!
[06:46] <MitchM> *shrugs*
[06:46] <jenda> 
[06:46] <jenda> thanks
[06:46] <MitchM> *screams* !
[06:46] <MitchM> yup =)
[06:47] <jenda> oi, I got a quote for t-shirts from the printing company... yummy.
[06:47] <jenda> blank t-shirts go for $3-$4
[06:47] <jenda> Do you think I should go for cheaper, or better? :)
[06:48] <MitchM> better =)
[06:48] <MitchM> but I'm a quality control buff.
[06:48] <MitchM> so cheap would probably be acceptable
[06:48] <MitchM> cheap(er0
[06:49] <MitchM> (er)*
[06:49] <jenda> oooh, they have one for $8 blank...
[06:49] <jenda> I might be able to get an assortment, even.
[06:50] <jenda> wow... looks... cheap...
[06:51] <jenda> 100 shirts... $3.40 even if I get the second best shirts...
[06:52] <jenda> 100 back-prints ... $72
[06:52] <jenda> 100 chest prints ... $46
[06:53] <jenda> flat fee for processing... $46
[06:54] <jenda> $6 per t-shirt including tax.
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: screen printing
[06:58] <jenda> yep
[06:58] <Admiral_Chicago> as a general rule, the more shirts you get, the more the cost of the screen is offset
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i handle printing for my karate school, i think it came out to about 7.50 a shirt
[07:03] <jenda> yes, the cost of the screen / image manipulation and other processes independent on t-shirt number, is $46
[07:04] <jenda> for 50 shirts, it would be double per shirt, for 100 it's just 46
[07:04] <Admiral_Chicago> yup
[07:05] <Admiral_Chicago> jenda: where are you doing this out of? like what's your country of origion
[07:05] <jenda> Czech Republic.
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ah
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> have you considered how shipping may fit in this?
[07:06] <jenda> and the printing itself gets cheaper when printing over 100 (about half, so I chose 100, will ask if that's enough for the discount)
[07:06] <jenda> assuming the t-shirt weighs less than 250 grams (half a pound) it will be $3.50 shipping globally
[07:07] <jenda> if it's over that, it'll be $5.50
[07:07] <jenda> Which means, if I charge $15 including shipping, I'm very OK :)
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> you got it all figured out
[07:07] <jenda> I'd have the expenses covered at shirt #53
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> sounds like a good plan
[07:16] <jenda> plan D :)
[08:12] <jenda> tadaa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1784059
[08:13] <tsmithe> yay!