=== theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mhoot [n=matt@host81-151-74-132.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:13] hi everyone [01:15] hey mhoot [01:15] hey Burgundavia - how are ya? :) [01:15] not bad [01:16] glad to hear it! === macluvjay [n=jthigpen@fltavth-16-104.fusionbroadband.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [+o nixternal] by ChanServ [05:35] heh === mode/#ubuntu-marketing [-o nixternal] by ChanServ [05:37] That was ominousish [05:41] i was messing with a scrip tand it did /quote chanserv op all [05:42] ah === samurai [n=samurai@74.134.155.212] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === klepas [n=klepas@202-161-31-121.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:01] Madpilot: boing [07:01] Mrh? [07:02] Madpilot: evening [07:02] hi all [07:02] any musicians? [07:03] we should get someone to put music to Madpilot's pending posse poster [07:03] get something fresh and youtube it === klepas [n=klepas@202-161-31-121.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [07:06] I rolled the current posters into .zips, after discovering a lot of people direct linking to load the large .png on their site around the world. :P Added links to inkscape so the windows retar^H^h^h^h^h users know how to print them [07:11] someone said they shot out e-mails to some boingboing peeps, hoping it will make boingboing's frontpage, too, eventually. [07:11] lotusleaf: supposedly it will make it monday... but no guarentees [07:12] poningru: awesome, thx =) [07:12] poningru: hey, at least it made digg :) [07:12] but boingboing has some slammin traffic [07:13] I think digg has more traffic than boingboing [07:13] poningru: really? a varied audience between them though I'd imagine [07:13] true [07:14] does digg have public traffic stats? [07:14] boingboing is more normal/artsy audience than digg [07:14] which is more techy imho [07:14] boingboing does via awstats link on their front page [07:14] nothing to back all of that up though [07:14] poningru: right, which is the definite audience to appeal to! :) [07:14] too true [07:14] the mole people already know what's going on in tech [07:15] hehe yeah [07:15] is there is an ubuntu embedded irc channel? [07:15] good question, dunno [07:18] I'm not aware of one - yet [07:19] lotusleaf: I would be offended that you called us "mole people"...if I had left the house all weekend. [07:20] rofl [07:20] *<:O) [07:21] ot: I was thinking lets startup a ubuntu for ps3 thing just like fc5 [07:22] poningru: cool, no one's jumped on that yet? [07:23] dont think so [07:23] not sure... [07:24] lotusleaf, can you handle ~150Kb of attachements to your email address? Got the 'SABDFL has a posse' done. [07:24] should I do 'Mark has a posse' too, given that 'SABDFL' is a bit of an in-joke for Ubuntu? [07:26] yes [07:27] Madpilot: yeah! [07:27] uh... no [07:27] sabdfl only... [07:28] cause then people will try to figure out what that is [07:28] viral marketing and all that [07:28] poningru: good idea === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@74.39.212.101] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:29] OK, in-joke only. ;) SVG & PNG inbound, lotusleaf [07:29] Madpilot: roger that [07:30] Madpilot: are these works in progress or material for posting? If the latter, I'll have it up in a few shakes of a lizard's drip [07:30] these are postable [07:30] ...a lizard's what??? [07:31] cool, I'm on it.. [07:35] sent to your tuxfamily email, lotusleaf [07:35] Madpilot: thx [07:35] I just learned that 'wirelizard.ca' is available, as a URL. Too bad Canadian domains are so flippin' expensive to register... [07:35] Madpilot: got it, gonna slap it together in a .zip w/ thumbnail preview and up it to the site, will be a few =) [07:36] is there a readme included? [07:36] yes [07:36] cool, thx [07:36] three files, SVG, PNG, updated readme. [07:36] Madpilot: your machine edgy or dapper? [07:36] Burgundavia, Dapper [07:36] :( [07:37] can you do open add/remove and search for "nvidia" for me? [07:38] Sysinfo & Trigger - a racing game - are the only two results [07:38] hmm [07:38] no idea why i havent shown you guys this before, and dont go publishing this as an 'ooh look here' link but stats for the ubuntucounter are at http://ubuntucounter.org/awstats/awstats.pl [07:39] elkbuntu: wow, 63% still on windows eh? [07:39] Burgundavia, yeah, those are the ones inadvertantly seeing the buttons, mainly [07:39] ah [07:40] the browser figures compared to the OS figures is cool though [07:41] yep [07:41] I want official download numbers [07:41] I pinged Jane awhile back but have not heard anything recently [07:41] allegedly, kubuntu is on-par or higher than ubuntu :| [07:42] from what i've been told [07:42] interesting [07:42] the counter results show a different story [07:42] so does distrowatch [07:42] but then again, online polls usually show 60/40 KDE/GNOME [07:42] yeah [07:43] that's because KDE users are noisier ;) [07:44] Madpilot, if that were the case, i'd have lots more kubuntu users registered [07:44] heh. what is the rough Gnome/KDE/XFCE/other breakdown on the counter, elkbuntu? [07:45] http://ubuntucounter.org [07:47] elkbuntu: Wait, are your results published now? [07:48] tonyyarusso, no. [07:48] busy tonight ey [07:48] counter != surveys [07:48] Doh. I knew that [07:49] elkbuntu: you should email all those hoary and warty users and warn them that they are running unsupported versions of Ubuntu [07:49] hehe. tempting, but i'd rather not [07:49] why not? I would consider it is a public service [07:50] that'd be like.. effort [07:50] then give me access to the db [07:52] can i trust you with 10k email addresses? [07:53] the only thing I would do to them would be autosign them up to ubuntu-news :0 [07:53] :) [07:53] rofl [07:54] and then maybe feed thme into Userful's spaminator [07:54] elkbuntu: do you have a privacy policy on your website? [07:54] ;) [07:54] elkbuntu: did I thank you properly for that post the other day? [07:55] poningru, yes, and i dont remember [07:55] oh and, you bastard! <-- but jono did [07:55] Burgundavia: Say, what's your stickers status? [07:55] ah, crappers [07:56] I keep meanign to write that letter [07:56] let me delete some more wiki pages and then I will get to it [07:56] Sure - whatcha deleting? [07:56] bwhahahha === poningru writes note to self reminding him to get involved in marketing and doc this time around [07:57] clearing out crurft from the help wiki [07:59] mostly via deletion [08:01] man, this is fun [08:03] exercising your destructive urges? [08:04] Madpilot: I'd like to place external links on the page wherever it says Madpilot, where would you like them to go? [08:04] lotusleaf, for now, send them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Madpilot [08:04] Madpilot: done, thanks [08:04] Madpilot: pretty much [08:04] finishing this up, few more mins [08:07] Madpilot: any way to make a png with transparent background look good reduced ? I tried as png but it degrades in quality, as jpg it just turns a solid black color [08:08] lotusleaf, sorry, I forgot to add a white background to the 'posse' image. Give me 5, I'll redo & resend them [08:08] Madpilot: thx :) === tonyyarusso is in a deleting mood too [08:08] I'm purging hundreds of FF bookmarks [08:08] Madpilot: which are you resending, just the png? [08:08] lotusleaf, both [08:08] Madpilot: k [08:10] " no idea why i havent shown you guys this before, and dont go publishing this as an 'ooh look here' link but stats for the ubuntucounter are" now available when google indexes the logs directory =) woo! thx [08:11] people are still using warty? [08:12] Madpilot: ding dong, a special delivery has arrived, thx [08:12] lotusleaf, yes, but it's not 'ooh look' [08:13] elkbuntu: :) [08:13] Madpilot: looks very nice! [08:13] its not like it is being brought to everyone's attention only to lure morons trying to sway the stats [08:14] elkbuntu: exactly [08:14] like a certain other distro did with firefox and distrowatch, anyway that's ot. ;) [08:15] yeah [08:41] Madpilot: posted, plz check links & md5sums for indy verification thx [08:41] who did what now? [08:41] poningru: new poster by Madpilot is up @ http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/obeyubuntu/ [08:42] poningru: sabdfl has a posse ;) [08:42] lotusleaf, all seems to work, cool [08:42] Madpilot: md5's too? great, thanks, and nice work :) [08:42] didn't bother checking the md5s, just the rest [08:42] woah awesome === poningru thinks about printing up stickers for those [08:43] poningru: ;) [08:43] an excellent idea [08:43] yeah and plaster campus with it [08:43] would look nice on my boxes [08:44] I really think that should replace the ubuntu buttons [08:44] lotusleaf, this is the font used on the roughcut posters: http://www.dafont.com/dirty-headline.font [08:45] the posse one would do good as a 10x10 sticker methinks [08:45] Madpilot: cool thx [08:45] the font I used on the SABDFL one is called "Another", which is freakin' impossible to google for... [08:45] exactly [08:45] haha [08:45] Madpilot, are these non-copyrighted fonts? [08:46] Madpilot: uh... that site says free for personal usage [08:46] now I can cover up the word microsoft when I see it with these stickers [08:46] actually, it's on dafont too - http://www.dafont.com/another.font [08:46] what is the font one that everyone lies fol LCD screens [08:46] Madpilot: thats not exactly free use [08:46] err personal [08:46] err that everyone likes for LCD screens [08:47] poningru, hmm, the original homepage for Dirty Headline doesn't specify the 'personal use only' part - http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/fonts.htm [08:48] http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/fonts2.htm actually === MenZa [n=menza@last.fm/subscriber/MenZa] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:58] Madpilot: thread updated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296742 [08:59] lotusleaf: that's hilarious [09:00] i like the sabdfl one, i'd seen the other ubuntu ones [09:02] Admiral_Chicago: indeed, I love it =) [09:03] lotusleaf: i gave a presentation on Ubuntu and everyone loled when i told them what Sabdfl meant [09:03] Admiral_Chicago: =) [09:04] I bet [09:04] they also onjoyed Baby Jesus [09:04] now all I need is a death star printer [09:04] ? [09:04] printer mod? [09:04] Admiral_Chicago: a massive room with printers churning out posters/stickers nonstop [09:05] Admiral_Chicago: had a few of those down here for various rallies in the 90'ies [09:05] ah i thought you meant a printer that could destroy a whole planet [09:05] lol [09:05] lotusleaf: here? [09:05] Admiral_Chicago: well, not in this channel =) [09:08] lotusleaf: http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/obeyubuntu/ << Copyright infringement! :) [09:09] jenda: na, it's not OBEYubuntu/ [09:09] :P [09:09] lol === lotusleaf throws popcorn at jenda [09:09] I meant the website. [09:09] it's going to be interesting to see what challenge posse posters turn up... [09:09] jenda: nah, it links back in the header [09:09] jenda: you mean to DIY? yeah, read the tags [09:10] jenda: I'll have to add that as a CLICKable link though, thanks =) I rushed it === jenda sees nothing... [09:11] jenda: line 14 of the html [09:11] jenda: alt=" [09:11] jenda: Krk..* 2? [09:11] (your address) [09:12] lotusleaf: found :) [09:12] jenda: let me re-up it with a clickable link, thx =) [09:12] MenZa: yep... [09:12] good good [09:12] lotusleaf: you might want to add that the website is MenZa's work - that's what I meant, not teh DIY site. [09:12] jenda: now I know your address off heart :p [09:12] oh that was nothing [09:13] jenda: oh? MenZa made that template? [09:13] I did. [09:13] Figured I could repay jenda that way ;) [09:13] lotusleaf: Although I plan to steal your page and use it on diy.(dev)ubuntu.com [09:13] hehe :) [09:13] MenZa: hello! May I ask where you'd like me to link to aside from DIY with the name MenZa mentioned? :) [09:13] jenda: :( [09:13] it's helped a lot - and now Daniel Buch is finishing it. [09:13] No need lotusleaf [09:13] Just looks neat in my portfolio, 'sall ;) [09:13] MenZa: but I wanna [09:14] lotusleaf: just kidding - I'll ask you first, and then steal it... [09:14] lol [09:14] lotusleaf: http://menza.org then ;) [09:14] Lasse Havelund [09:14] I don't need it though :p [09:14] MenZa: k thx [09:14] MenZa: too bad :) [09:14] lol [09:14] Cheers [09:14] speaknig of marketing. am i the only one that find the whole Killroy thing annoying? === jenda knows no killroy. [09:15] killroy wasn't here? [09:15] jenda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilroy_Was_Here [09:15] ah === jenda heard of that, but forgot again. [09:16] lotusleaf: I intend to make a similar page for all Ubuntu diy material on diy.(dev)ubuntu.com, so Brian's posters have a spot reserved as well. [09:17] jenda: good, the more the merrier ;) [09:17] jenda, could you grab all the posters & readme from lotusleaf's page and stick them in our BZR repo, please? === klepas [n=klepas@202-161-31-121.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:17] I was just going to :) [09:18] Madpilot: now that you're here... [09:18] ya? [09:18] BZR == bazaar? [09:18] The posters i printed are nearly gone - only have some 185 left, so I'm thinking what's next... [09:19] Admiral_Chicago: yep [09:19] jenda: i know it's an "arch revision program [09:19] but what does that mean? [09:19] Madpilot: so, I've had two suggestions - Obey posters, and obey t-shirts... sounds good to you? [09:20] phone, bbiab === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:23] i think ubuntu should have an official site, instead of cafe freeprees or whatever is printing stuff [09:23] jenda, go for it. poningru did point out that there might be some licensing issue w/ the font I used on the roughcut posters, though. Give me a few days to check w/ the creator of that, or to redraw the posters [09:23] ok, cool [09:24] But do you think I could ask you to polish them a little bit? (I have a few suggestions) [09:24] (BTW - authors always get a few free prints) [09:24] jenda: amended, & thank you :) [09:25] jenda, suggest away! [09:25] Alrighty... [09:25] MenZa: your're linked and credited on that page now :) [09:25] 1) the little smudge you have in the logo... [09:25] :) [09:25] MenZa: a beautiful design, btw [09:25] damn... my landlord's crappy router seems to have tanked again - no DNS resolution... [09:26] thanks lotusleaf [09:26] MenZa: yw [09:26] jenda, the one that's identical all over? [09:26] The font is really rugged etc., but the logo is white, and the only 'flaw' is 8 smudges - all exactly the same. [09:27] it's really hard to switch from Paradise Lost to Ubunutu [09:27] Madpilot: So if you could achieve the same look the font has on the logo, it would look a _lot_ better, IMO :) [09:27] (logo & the thick white lines) [09:28] jenda, actually, I was thinking of going the opposite way - redrawing the text to be cleaner [09:28] ok [09:28] no i think the lines should look more..worn [09:28] i was jut about to do an edit to see how it would look [09:28] but - don't keep all the smudges the same :) === jenda still thinks the font looks great. [09:29] what about a tiny jendafish logo in the corner [09:29] :-D [09:29] lotusleaf, no, the tiny wirelizard doesn't need company ;) [09:29] Madpilot: :P [09:30] Madpilot: do you think you can recreate the zip with the files in a folder? [09:30] having all the smudges the same was a bit of a private joke; it amuses me to be going to so much effort to reproduce errors that printers try hard to get rid of [09:30] Admiral_Chicago, I didn't actually build the zip, lotusleaf did [09:30] Admiral_Chicago: paradise lost? [09:31] the story by John Milton about the fall of the devil and Original Sin [09:31] Admiral_Chicago: yeah, but Goetia is different =) you mean people read zip comments today? :P [09:31] Madpilot: ok - cool... and do you still want them to be that way? :) [09:32] Goetia? [09:32] Admiral_Chicago: #goetia [09:32] jenda, I'll keep fiddling with the images, might do more variation in the smudges [09:32] ok, that would be cool :) [09:33] Madpilot: Next thing... what aboutthe thin white outline around the logo? What's it for? IMO, you sohuld either remove it, or add it to the text too. [09:34] if I end up re-drawing the text, I might [09:34] and on the left dot in the logo, teh line goes uninterupted around the entire dot - and doesn't look good. I'd make it more imperfect :) [09:34] ok [09:42] jenda: you will, of course, be making black t-shirts as some have almost begged for in the forums, with this/these logo/s, right? :) [09:42] yes :) [09:42] Do you think $10 is good price for a t-shirt? [09:42] jenda: /o/ hooray! [09:43] jenda: that's a delicious price [09:43] leally? cool :) [09:43] jenda: have you seen cafepress? [09:43] jenda: lots of sites charge at least $14 - 20 bux [09:44] jenda: if you can get a black t-shirt with the ubuntu roughcut logo on the back (and/or one including a tiny ubuntu logo on the front left breast) that would rock [09:45] jenda: perfectly reasonable [09:45] jenda: guess you could also run a poll on the forums with design ideas [09:45] cool :) [09:46] I like the roughcut design so much I don't think I'll be doing a poll ;) [09:46] ahhaah [09:46] jenda: which is what I was thinking in the first place ;) [09:47] Madpilot: one more thing... [09:47] Madpilot: teh trademark notice should be complete, I can't print otherwise : Ubuntu, Canonical and the Ubuntu Logo are trademarks of Canonical Ltd. [09:48] good point. [09:51] http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/ <-- still missing kubuntu poster, needs the new poster too [09:52] lotusleaf: alright, alright... === jenda adds [09:52] jenda: thx! :) === jenda commits [09:52] jenda, thanks. I should have another go at figuring out bzr; svn wasn't that hard to learn... === jenda pushes [09:53] jenda: ++ the latest readme he included should overwrite the old [09:53] jenda: thx [09:53] I did. [09:53] r0x0r === jenda ssh's === jenda ./cronjobs [09:59] props to the first person who gets a roughcut tattoo [10:00] I've been waiting for an Ubuntu logo tattoo to appear... [10:00] lotusleaf: I'd do it, if I was of age to get one ;) [10:00] i've been considering it [10:01] :o [10:01] :O [10:01] wow [10:01] elkbuntu: which one, the logo or the sabdfl? :) [10:01] great iea. [10:01] um.. logo [10:01] haha [10:01] cool! [10:01] I think my friend would never talk to me again. [10:01] elkbuntu, in full colour, or all in black? [10:01] s/friend/friends/ [10:01] Madpilot, probably color [10:01] jenda: over a tattoo? [10:02] elkbuntu: on the forehead, or on your shoulder [10:02] yeah! [10:02] gah... tattoos involve needles; I've never been good with needles... :P [10:02] jenda, undecided [10:02] lotusleaf: over being so deep in Ubuntu that I even get a tattoo :) [10:02] Madpilot: Same here [10:02] jenda: aahhh ;) [10:04] lol... somebody is trying to send me a file called secrets.exe [10:05] rofl [10:05] jenda: yeah, they kept doing that on another server for me :p [10:05] I'd just have them g-lined [10:05] #*-social, jenda [10:06] jenda: you don't block dcc * ? [10:06] lotusleaf: why would you? [10:06] MenZa: I told christel. [10:06] spiffy [10:07] /whowas [10:07] now, I have to install wine to get me those secrets! [10:07] rofl [10:07] awesome [10:07] tell me what it is when you've got it [10:07] :D [10:07] it won't transfer :/ [10:07] you know [10:07] I thought about running it in wine [10:07] just.. cbf anyway [10:08] MenZa: because I don't want messages like that? :) [10:08] damn, he's dead. [10:08] http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comics/20061120.jpg [10:08] yep [10:08] they disconnect the moment they've tried sending lol [10:08] Next time I need to _get_ the virus first, then get the user killed. [10:08] just a minor nuisance === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:12] jenda: never know, with wine it may work even better than in windows ;P [10:13] lotusleaf: indeed :) [10:13] But I lost it. I'll get myself some other virus... [10:13] Nah, screw it. Should lose time with that :) [10:13] there was a great article somewhere on trying to run Win viruses on Wine [10:13] Madpilot: I read it :) [10:14] a nice take on the usual "Linux isn't ready for the desktop" whinge ;) === MenZa cracks his head open at #freenode-social [10:15] http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss [10:16] wow, nice spam comment near the bottom ;P [10:17] that's hilarious jenda [10:17] my DNS is still fubar'd... stoopid cheap router... cheap landlord... [10:20] lotusleaf: which one? [10:20] jenda: nm nothing special, someone link spammed on the article you mentioned [10:20] jenda: kinda fitting though, considering the topic ;) [10:20] ok [10:20] http://os.newsforge.com/comments.pl?sid=43827&cid=107366 === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:27] cmon boingboing, post it, post it, post it, post it! [10:30] nice... [10:32] Madpilot: nm re: licensing [10:32] we're good [10:32] poningru, did you email Cumberland? [10:32] arr? [10:32] no [10:32] no its legal to use even commercial fonts [10:32] for that kinda purpose [10:33] ya, thought it would be, but font licensing is f'ing strange territory [10:33] indeed [10:34] I wanna see someone make an evil patent pusher poster against patents [10:34] lotusleaf, huh? [10:35] lotusleaf: I'll consider it. [10:35]