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hipitihop!NIS12:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about NIS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
van|mugenglider-do you know how to without a cd?12:01
TuTUxvan|mugenglider-, it seems to like u havent uninstall ur boot loader on ur hd12:01
jattsure, use eclipse as a compiler and emacs as editor12:01
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hipitihop!ypbind12:01
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ypbind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:01
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TuTUxvan|mugenglider-, i really dont12:01
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petroIm trying to install a compiler on ubuntu anybody have any ideas?12:02
sky123philip: Id try an smbclient -L ip of the machine to see the shares first12:02
humimc__: what exactly is broken with eclipse?12:02
ironfroggyim i chrooted into this box and the only source listed is the cdrom. why? is there sometihng i can run to get the "real" sources.list ?12:02
dabaRpetro: for what language?12:02
__mikem!msg hipitihop12:02
petroenglish12:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msg hipitihop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:02
__mikem!msg | hipitihop12:02
jatthehe12:02
ubotuhipitihop: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.12:02
dabaRpetro: a compiler for what programming language?12:02
mc__humi: it refuses to start :)12:02
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__mikemoops wrong one12:02
petrosomething like gcc, cc12:02
sky123philip: then something like this - smbclient \\\\some-machine\\some-share -U someuser12:02
__mikemwhich one talks about investigating the bot in a pm12:02
dabaRpetro: install build-essential12:02
humimc__: saying what?12:03
petrook ill try and figure out how to do that12:03
sky123philip: this should help out - http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/net-admin/ch08s02.html12:03
mc__humi: dunno exactly12:03
hipitihop__mikem, Are you trying to pm me ?12:03
Pelopetro,  you can find  the build essentials in synaptic12:03
mc__humi: but it's an official bug,it is in launchpad12:03
jrib!msgthebot | __mikem12:03
van|mugenglider-k well thanks for trying, ill try and google a formating utility12:03
ubotu__mikem: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:03
gnomefreakmc__: that was never a bug in edgy on eclipse. the problems were not getting it to start it was more of a feature bugs12:03
__mikemno12:03
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gnomefreakmc__: do you have a bug #?12:03
dabaRpetro: there are two ways to install programs, gui - System>Administration>Synaptic Package Manager, or command line - sudo aptitude install <packageName>12:03
__mikemi was trying to tell you not to throw random stuff into ubotu like you were12:03
humimc__: hmm.. had no problem on archlinux12:03
mc__gnomefreak: feature bugs?12:04
petroalright I copied all that stuff down, i'll give it a try12:04
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hipitihop__mikem, were you responding to my NIS question ?12:04
tuvif i boot a 386 kernel i get high cpu load for some simple apps, while the generic kernel shows the message "ACPI: Getting cpuindex for acpiid 0x1" and stops there12:04
__mikemNo12:05
gnomefreakmc__: a feature was the bug like a plugin or trying to do bleh. i have yet seena  bug on eclipse wont start. can you please give me a bug number so i can look at it?12:05
tuvthat's on a 1.87GHz centrino machine12:05
mc__gnomefreak: ill try to find the bug again12:05
philipsky123: i keeps telling me: smbclient \\\\some-machine\\some-share -U someuser12:06
philipsky123: Not enough '\' characters in service *12:06
mc__gnomefreak: #6805312:06
humi6.10 is using xorg 7.1 right?12:06
mc__humi: yes12:06
gnomefreakbug 6805312:06
humigee.. that's why it hangs on boot12:06
LjLgnomefreak: doesn't work in this channel ;)12:06
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sky123philip: this is where is gets a little weird...drop or slash or two and see. many just a \\ will do it ?12:07
gnomefreakLjL: i see that ty12:07
mc__gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/6805312:07
humi7.1 doens't like fglrx drivers12:07
tuvwhy wouldn't the generic kernel boot a centrino laptop?12:07
philipsky123: on the network page the pc i'm looking for flickers on and off but when ever its on an i try to connect it just gives me an error all the time12:07
gnomefreakmc__: im looking at tit12:07
gnomefreaks/tit/it12:07
hipitihopCan someone please help me get my NIS server running ? ypbind seemd to fail with "[binding to YP server ....backgroundied] "12:07
philipsky123: telling me the contents cant be found12:07
Pelotuv,  look in the system monitor  ( system > admin > system monitor) see which process is eating up your cpu and try reinstalling it12:08
mc__gnomefreak: thx12:08
bz029In Edgy can I specify a program to run in admin mode? Much like the package manager .. ?12:08
pianoboy3333http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30305812:08
sky123philip: did the smbclient -L machineip yield anything?12:08
rbrunhuberhello where do i report a bug in feisty?12:08
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philipsky123: its not that ubuntu cant connect to my windows pc, its that it cant keep a connection12:08
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tonyyarusso!bugs | rbrunhuber12:08
uboturbrunhuber: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots12:08
tuvPelo, gkrellm is. reinstalling did not help12:08
humii wonder why ubuntu installer wouldn't switch to vesa instead if there's a problem12:08
gnomefreakmc__: when its fixed and shouldnt be too much longer it will be in the edgy-proposed repos12:08
philipsky123: tried, nothing, i think the servicename is incorrect12:08
sky123philip: hmmm...that is weird.. i wonder if its a time out or something..12:08
tuvPelo, gkrellm using about 20% cpu.. totally unreasonable. i know something is wrong, but can't tell what is12:08
gnomefreakadd edgy-proposed repo and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:08
tonyyarussoHas anyone tried creating an encrypted partition from the installer?12:09
humiand no text mode to fix xorg.conf :(12:09
tuvi find it stranger that the generic kernel wouldn't boot at all12:09
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philipsky123: it apears on the windows pc ok12:09
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mc__gnomefreak: i think it is solved already12:09
sky123philip:  smbclient -L 192.168.1.1 or whatever doesnt do anything?12:09
mc__gnomefreak: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/6838012:09
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Pelotuv,  what does  that process handle, I doesn'T seem to be running on my comp12:09
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rbrunhuberubotu: is there a "version" field there so i can explicitly set it to feisty?12:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is there a "version" field there so i can explicitly set it to feisty? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
sky123philip: when you type smbcli and hit tab does it autocomplete?12:10
philipsky123: 192.168.1.1 is my router so i dout it12:10
sky123or whatever ip the windows box is ...that is just an example12:10
gnomefreakmc__: thats a different bug all together i am looking at it right now12:10
philipsky123: smbcli: command not found12:10
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sky123philip: now we are actually getting somewhere one sec12:10
mc__gnomefreak: but the 2nd post says "This is a fix for Bug #68053 - Eclipse will not start (Edgy)"12:10
dabaRrbrunhuber: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+bugs12:11
tuvPelo, it's a system monitors stack. see www.gkrellm.net12:11
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gnomefreakmc__: it does not say it is fixed it says it will be fixed12:11
hipitihopI have been trying to get someone to assist with NIS for days but not many seem to know about it. Am I trying the wrong way to administer passwords on one server  on my home network. Is there an alternative and easier way then NIS ?12:11
philipsky123: atlast12:11
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Pelotuv,  yeah, I just looked it up,  no clue12:12
sky123philip:  sudo apt-get install smbclient12:12
hamdinphello12:12
mc__gnomefreak: alright12:12
gnomefreakmc__: that means it will be fixed per bug 68053. add the edgy-proposed repo adn see if its been fixed12:12
hamdinpchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables12:12
hamdinpSee `config.log' for more details.12:12
LjL!build-essential > hamdinp12:12
gnomefreakhamdinp: sudo apt-get install build-essential12:12
hamdinpthanks12:12
tuvthe generic kernel stops at: 'Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...' what does that mean?12:12
Pelotuv, did you compile it from source or did you install the pacakge available in synaptic ?12:12
philipsky123: smbclient is already the newest version. HUH?12:12
mc__gnomefreak: where is the edgy-proposed repo?12:13
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rbrunhubertuv: do you use lvm?12:13
tuvPelo, it's a stock ubuntu kernel. i don't compile kernels12:13
tuvrbrunhuber, no. sata disk12:13
Pelotuv,  I meant  gkrllm12:13
gnomefreakmc__: there isnt one just laying around. you would have to add this to your list. ill post it in my next message12:13
philipsky123: i think i pressed enter not tab, opps12:13
sky123philip: id try to reinstall that.. via synaptic... and try again.. that smbclient is the key component for connecting to windows12:13
rbrunhubertuv: do you use feisty?12:13
tuvPelo, from synaptic12:13
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Pelok12:14
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tuvrbrunhuber, i don't know what's that, so i suppose 'no' is my answer12:14
sky123philip: so its there?12:14
philipsky123: its installed, i pressed enter not tab12:14
philipyes12:14
Falstiusdoes anyone know how I could reprocess a video file to remove a very high pitched tone out of it?12:14
mc__gnomefreak: im no newbie,i meant the adress of the repo(my english isnt good,sorry)12:14
sky123philip: so try smbclient -L ipofwindowsbox12:14
gnomefreakmc__: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed12:14
mc__gnomefreak: thank you!12:14
gnomefreakiirc that is it12:14
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rbrunhubertuv: did which version of ubuntu did you install? dapper (6.06) oder edgy (6.10)?12:14
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gnomefreake12:14
ironfroggywhy do i have no grub command in a freshly installed system? i managed to chroot in finally and i cant seem to do anything.12:15
ironfroggywhat package is it in, even? i see no grub package.12:15
LjL!info grub12:15
ubotugrub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-11ubuntu14 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 764 kB12:15
philipsky123: params.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: w#12:15
philipparams.c:Parameter() - Ignoring badly formed line in configuration file: force group users12:15
philipError connecting to 192.168.1.125 (No route to host)12:15
philipConnection to 192.168.1.125 failed12:15
LjL!paste > philip12:15
philipsorry12:16
ironfroggyLjL: ok but where do i get it? what package do i need?12:16
sethkironfroggy, there is indeed a package named grub12:16
LjLironfroggy: grub.12:16
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hipitihopHow can I tell if my YP server is running correctly ?12:16
sky123philip: so the smbclient -L 192.168.1.? yeilds that message??12:16
LjLironfroggy: and the fact that you don't have it installed by default, or that you can't see it using apt-cache/apt-get, means nothing good IMHO12:16
philipsky123: yes12:16
ironfroggyLjL: "no installation candidate"12:16
LjLironfroggy: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list12:16
tuvrbrunhuber, edgy12:17
sky123philip: whoah... yeah...id try to re-install the smbclient via synaptic and try again12:17
LjLironfroggy: how do you boot your system anyway, if you have no grub?12:17
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mc__gnomefreak: that gives me a syntax error12:17
philipsky123: one second12:17
sky123philip: That is where id start..12:17
mc__gnomefreak: E: Malformed line 18 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)12:17
gnomefreakmc__: it might be that with main restricted universe multiverse added to the end12:17
sky123philip: OH!!! hey check the smbclient file again12:18
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ironfroggyi cant get to an X session from that box12:18
philipsky123: where would that be?12:18
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gnomefreakLjL: you dont happen to have a proposed repo handy?12:18
LjLi think you're wasting your time anyway mc__, i skimmed through the Packages.gz for -proposed and didn't notice eclipse12:18
sky123philip: its bitching about a w# or something..where did that come from??12:18
LjLgnomefreak, nope, but i just had a look at the Packages.gz for main12:18
sky123philip: in /etc/samba/ smb.conf12:18
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gnomefreakLjL: ty12:18
mc__LjL: alrighth,thanks12:18
philipsky123: k12:18
ZambeziWhich is the best tool to erase DVDRW in Ubuntu? K3B, Gnomebaker doesn't erase the DVD at all.12:19
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PupenoIsn't http://packages.ubuntu.com the site where I can search packages ?12:20
Onofriohi12:20
gnomefreakPupeno: yes12:20
VixusI would like to know an all-round CD/DVD tool12:20
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LjLPupeno: yes but it was down until some minutes ago12:20
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philipsky123: right, done, must of been me by mistake, trying that code agan..12:20
ironfroggyhttp://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/256612:20
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Onofriowho can test this my  httpd Server?    http://217.133.87.159   test for nat12:20
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LjLOnofrio: works12:22
OnofrioOk thank LjL12:22
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Pupenognomefreak: it sems to be down then.12:22
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ironfroggyLjL: i pasted the sources.list12:22
philipsky123: returns this, Error connecting to 192.168.1.125 (No route to host)12:22
philipConnection to 192.168.1.125 failed12:22
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ironfroggyLjL: also, to answer your question, im chrooted in.12:22
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gnomefreakPupeno: give me a minute12:22
superkirbyartistI wonder how you can make wifi-radar autoconnect?12:23
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petroI am trying to find the folder that firefox is in on a ubuntu install so that I can overwrite it with firefox212:23
petrodoes anybody know where it is?12:23
jribpetro: don't do that12:23
petrook12:23
jrib!firefox > petro12:23
gnomefreakPupeno: it is down atm. give me a few minutes to find out why12:23
LjLironfroggy: uhm, i see some issues with that sources.list, but nothing that should prevent grub from showing up. does "sudo apt-get update" give any errors?12:23
petrowhat do I do then12:23
superkirbyartistpetro: Edgy reps have FF212:23
philipsky123: actually returns this, smbclient -L 192.168.1.12512:23
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uetgn812:24
jribpetro: ubotu should have sent you info about installing ff2 from a tarball into /opt, but as superkirbyartist said, edgy has ff212:24
petrohow do I install edgy, I just upgraded to dapper drake using the update manager12:24
jrib!upgrade | petro12:24
ubotupetro: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes12:24
ironfroggyLjL: it seems to be running fine. maybe ill try again after that.12:24
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philipsky123: actually this12:24
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ironfroggyLjL: that fixed it12:24
philipsky123: timeout connecting to 192.168.1.126:44512:24
petrook12:24
sky123philip: hmmm...ping that ip12:25
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LjLironfroggy: good, though it's still extremely weird that it wasn't installed by default12:25
Falstiusany chance of getting FF2 added to the dapper repos?12:25
superkirbyartistGood luck petro.   You Oughta like it, but you will need to work a little to get GS2/LW working.12:25
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Falstiusis there an edgy-backports repo?12:25
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jribFalstius: there is such a repo12:25
superkirbyartistAnyone can help me connect automatically with wifi-radar?12:25
gnomefreakPupeno: its been down for a few hours no EST on when it will be back up12:25
philipsky123: it just timesout12:26
superkirbyartistPlease?12:26
LjLironfroggy: i would make your sources.list look like this anyway http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32837/ (you didn't have security and updates enabled for universe and multiverse)12:26
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sky123philip: you have bigger problems!...a network issue12:27
Falstiusjrib, what would be the syntax?12:27
sky123philip: Do you have a firewall on windows box?12:27
ironfroggyLjL: ok i have grub but nothing in /boot/grub, so how do i get the files for the different stages there?12:27
LjLFalstius, i think you probably have it already in your /etc/apt/sources.list , just commented out12:27
LjLironfroggy: grub-install i think12:27
philipsky123: no12:27
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sky123philip: that ping should point blank work.. maybe check the subnet mask on each box and the ip info12:28
LjLFalstius, anyway it's empty, and i think it'll be for a while12:28
tuvwhy wouldn't the generic kernel boot? it stops at: 'Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...' while the 386 kernel boots fine. what does that mean?12:28
sky123philip: the ping is a first step to esablish clean network connections12:28
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sky123philip: then id check the cables, switch etc12:28
FalstiusLjL, I meant stuff from edgy for dapper ... It seems they call that dapper-backports, ofcourse that is virtually empty too.12:29
philipsky123: the subnet masks are all the same, this is right no?12:29
sky123philip: yes12:29
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sky123philip: might be hardware?12:29
philipsky123: i dont think the cables are wrong, both pcs can use the internet12:29
LjLFalstius: yeah, it's dapper-backports. edgy-backports is from backports *to* edgy (from feisty, thus empty). dapper-backports shouldn't be empty i think12:29
sky123philip: okay...it strikes me weird that you cannot ping the other machine..12:30
LjLFalstius: s/from/for/12:30
philipsky123: same12:30
sky123philip: but from windows to linux it works fine?12:30
LjLsky123, if it's a Windows XP machine (or XP SP2, or something), i think it's quite normal. they refuse pings by default12:30
philipsky123: weird thing is i can connect to the apache on windows12:30
FalstiusThere's no firefox2.0 in it though.  That's the only thing I'd like from Edgy (the rest of the install seems broken)12:30
philipsky123: via port 80 on that same ip12:30
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LjLFalstius, no, i don't think there will ever be a firefox 2 package for dapper12:31
sky123LjL: really? they block icmp packets since SP2 ?? holy crap!12:31
tuvwhat should the root line be for sata disk?12:31
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LjLsky123: i'm not sure whether it's since SP2 or what, i know i can't ping my XP machines12:31
tuvwhat should the root line be for sata disk in grub's menu.list?12:31
philipsky123: my windows pc can ping my ubuntu pc12:31
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jeanHi All...12:31
sky123LjL: no firewall on them?12:32
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LjLsky123: well, the XP built-in firewall. http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/10812:32
jeanHow I can backup in DVD my apt-get files...?? I use 56 connection...12:32
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LjL"The default setting in a freshly installed and updated Windows XP installation has the built-in firewall configured such that the computer does not answer ICMP echo request, also called pings."12:32
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jeanSo i need to Backup and Restore my files downloaded... to use when i format and reinstall ubuntu...12:33
MyNameUhBorathey everyone12:33
ironfroggynothing seems to work, no matter what i do. ive tried installing to the MBR, to the partition, to another harddrive configured with the right root partition.12:33
sky123philip: Ljl's post is a good one..see if this helps - http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/readme/10812:33
ironfroggywhat does it mean that it makes it to stage1.5? what happens before that point and what does it not get a chance to do there?12:34
LjLjean: the files are in /var/cache/apt/archives12:34
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jeanI need only to backup the files in this folder?12:35
sky123LjL: that is useful.  thnx12:35
LjL!grub | ironfroggy, i don't know, might find something here12:35
ubotuironfroggy, i don't know, might find something here: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:35
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LjLjean: yes12:35
LjLjean: that is, for backing up your downloaded packages, which i think is what you asked. then of course you may want to backup more than that12:35
philipsky123: just checked, it already is checked12:36
jeanLjL: and to restore i need to put the files in this place again.. ok???12:36
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LjLjean: should work, yes12:36
jeanBut the apt dont try to donwload again?12:36
LjLjean: not when i last tried that.12:36
jeanOk.. Tks...12:37
sky123philip: im starting to run out of ideas...but the initial ping, since you said you had it checked...im not understanding why you cant make a simple ping connection...i think id start there first.12:37
jeanIs too hard to donwload all packages again in 56Kbps.. :-) Tks..12:37
LjLjean: just make sure when you restore the files that they get the right permissions. they need to be owned by root:root, and be u=rw,g=r,o=r12:37
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user-landi know there are many different ways to add proprietary codecs to ubuntu. is there one you especially recommend ?12:37
smoghi anybody can help me?12:37
LjL!restricted | user-land12:37
ubotuuser-land: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:37
user-landthanks, ljl.12:38
superkirbyartistCan you help me with wifi-radar?12:38
superkirbyartist!wifi-radar12:38
ubotuwifi-radar: graphical utility for managing Wi-Fi profiles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 208 kB12:38
smogi heve problem with codecs12:38
user-landinstalling edgy for the fifth time now on this computer :-)12:38
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philipsky123: is there some way i could contact you at a later time, i have to go now but i would like to continue this convosation, but not with someone who doesnt know the previous posts,12:38
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jeanHow can i change this if the files as in other user or permissions?12:38
sky123philip: I am on here ALOT. So ill be around at 9:00 or 10:00 PST12:39
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LjLjean: "chown root:root *; chmod u=rw,g=r,o=r *", assuming you're in a directory that contains those files and only those files12:39
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philipsky123: ok, hope to see you soon, once i've had more sleep :P12:39
herrerausmchello12:39
sky123philip: yep sleep changes all12:39
philipi'll stay on here12:39
sky123cool12:39
philipg'night12:39
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LjL!pm | smog12:40
ubotusmog: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.12:40
jeanOk Thanks for your help...12:40
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LjL!ask | smog12:40
ubotusmog: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:40
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superkirbyartistVote for Ebuntu's new name http://ebuntu.sos-sts.com/poll/12:41
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LadyNikonwhats ebuntu?12:42
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superkirbyartist!ebuntu12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ebuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
bluefox83ubuntu for schools and stuff12:42
Mongey!grub12:42
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:42
bluefox83it's on the ubuntu website for god sakes...12:42
ixianubuntu with enlightenment12:42
superkirbyartistIt's Ubuntu with Enlightment.12:42
superkirbyartistBluefox:You're talking about Edubuntu12:42
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chronosofthi, does anyone know where ubuntu put's the php5 binary?12:42
bluefox83ooooooooh12:42
bunnythebunnyGuys, is there a command that lets me see if i have direct3d or not?12:42
superkirbyartistElightment is a window manager12:42
LadyNikoneh12:42
LadyNikoni never liekd elightment12:42
bluefox83i dunno why they change the name of ubuntu over the damn window manager...12:43
LadyNikonliked*12:43
LjLbunnythebunny: this is linux, there is no direct3d.12:43
LadyNikonbluefox83: its a theme thing12:43
ed123why is fedora 3GB iso and ubuntu only 700MB?12:43
superkirbyartistWell just go to http://ebuntu.sos-sts.com/poll/ to vote for the new name.12:43
chronosoft>.<.... it's not in the standard location12:43
bluefox83because fedora doesn't have a package manager that rawks like ubuntu :P12:43
bunnythebunnyLjL ...there is something.. im not sure what is it im looking for...something to do with graphics...12:43
chronosoft/usr/bin/php12:43
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LjLbunnythebunny: OpenGL perhaps12:43
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ironfroggyLjL: ive done everything said in both those pages about grub and it hasnt made any affect on the problem.12:44
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ed12bluefox: so u d/l what u need then once installed?12:44
bunnythebunnyLjL ..no thats not it...well i installed the Nvidia drivers...they're working fine....Enemy Territory should work fine right? I don't know if you know what i'm on about..12:44
bunnythebunnyLjL, well i guess i'll find out now12:44
LjLbunnythebunny: no, honestly i don't. is that a native Linux or a Windows game run under emulation?12:44
bunnythebunnyIt's a native linux game12:44
bunnythebunnyLjL12:44
sliptteeshow that I make to mount a partition of mac the x and to write in it?12:45
bunnythebunnyLjL, well it was made for windows at first, but then they made a linux version and a mac version12:45
sliptteeshow that I make to mount a partition of mac os x and to write in it?12:45
LjLbunnythebunny: then you should just need an accelerated driver for your video card, which supports hardware acceleration with OpenGL12:45
ed12bluefox83: so u d/l what u need then once installed?12:45
LjLslipttees: sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/whatever /media/whatever12:45
bunnythebunnyLjL, yeah thats probably what i meant :P .. do you know how i can check if i got hardware acceleration or not?12:46
tuvok, after applying the fix in https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/67256, i can boot the generic kernel now. however, gkrellm uses about 50% cpu now at full cpu freq.12:46
LjLbunnythebunny, what card?12:46
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bunnythebunnyLjL: Geforce 6600 GT12:46
LjL!nvidia > bunnythebunny12:46
LjLbunnythebunny: follow the howto12:46
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bunnythebunnyAh yeah i've done that..12:46
bunnythebunnyI had to12:46
sliptteesLjL: no writer12:47
slipttees:(12:47
LjLbunnythebunny: you see an nvidia logo when you start?12:47
LjLslipttees, "no writer" doesn't mean a thing to me12:47
sliptteesdoesn't writer12:47
bunnythebunnyLjL: If i hadn't installed the nvidia drivers..my pc would just be ...slowww, like chopping, really slow. Thats how i had it when i first installed it. Thank god it was just the graphic card.12:47
bunnythebunnyLjL, yes i do12:47
bluefox83ed12, you download the iso, burn it to cd, then boot into the cd, and run the installer, it installs all your software with a net connection12:47
chronosoftdoes anyone know where ubuntu put's the php5 binary?12:47
ziro01sup12:47
chronosofti can't find it :(12:47
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ed12ahh.12:48
kitchechronosoft: should be /usr/bin/php12:48
ed12thx12:48
sky123chronosoft: or do a which php or whereis php12:48
chronosofti have php512:49
sliptteesLjL: ?12:49
chronosoftkitche, it's not there12:49
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sliptteesmount partition for writer?12:49
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kitchechronosoft: well php5 is just a version the binary is called php but do which php and it should show you the path to it12:49
chronosoftsky123, in those folders either12:49
LjLslipttees: you mean, with write access?12:49
chronosoft(with the whereis command)12:49
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sky123chronosoft:  find / - name php12:49
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LjLbunnythebunny: then you have hardware acceleration for what i know12:50
GuyIncongitohalo12:50
sliptteesyes LjL12:50
GuyIncongitoanyone gotten bery/aiglx running with a radeon 9800 ?12:50
bunnythebunnyLjL :P, heh12:50
sliptteessorry my english..i use google translations12:50
LjLslipttees: have you used options "user,auto,file_umask=0111,dir_umask=0000" ?12:50
sliptteesfstab?12:51
sky123!fstab12:51
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions12:51
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chronosoftfind / - name php doesn't work...12:51
sliptteessky123: 12:51
klamsdhow do I install VLC Player12:52
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ziro01secret12:52
chronosoftfind: invalid predicate -12:52
chronosoftsudo apt-get install vlc12:52
Salah_!screeenres12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screeenres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
klamsdI don't have net access on the computer with Ubuntu12:52
jrib!fixres > Salah_12:52
Salah_thank you jrib12:52
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slipttees!pastebot12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastebot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
slipttees!paste12:52
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:52
NewpZhi i used automatrix2 and installted all multimedia stuff, i then installed w32codecs but i can not play .mov files.. can someone plz tell me what im mssing?12:53
sky123sliptees: id try that as sudo su, then find / -name php12:53
sky123and see12:53
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LjL!automatix | NewpZ12:53
ubotuNewpZ: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.12:53
sliptteesLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32847/12:53
kitcheNewpZ: your missing the quicktime codec12:53
klamsdany alternative?12:53
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NewpZkitche, do you know the package name that ontains this? i dont see it in apt-cache search12:54
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zackrhey, is there any way to force kaffeine to always load a certain audio channel and subtitle?12:54
JPAULEYHow do I give my mthtv user access to run applications in X started by another user?12:54
LjLslipttees: is the /home/mac directory itself +rw for the user you need?12:55
kitche!quicktime>NewpZ12:55
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NewpZewww yeah automatrix sucks.. im missing all the gstreamer suff12:55
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NewpZthanks for te dvise.. i will not use that again12:55
Silivrenionif i'm installing ubuntu server, and a while from now i'm adding a large disk to the system, should I select to just install on the 3GB drive in the system, or should I install with LVM?12:55
chronosoftthanks sky123 ^_^;12:55
sliptteesLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32848/12:56
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NewpZahh i installed it all and it works now :)12:56
chronosoft/usr/lib/cgi-bin12:56
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LjLslipttees: 501?! hmm... is the partition mounted, right now?12:56
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klamsdcan I install anything in Ubuntu without internet?12:56
sliptteesyep12:56
sliptteesopss12:56
Silivrenionsoo.. anyone have any idea?12:56
sky123chronosoft: so that worked..where was it??12:56
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sliptteesno mount rigth now12:57
LjLslipttees: unmount it and see what the permissions are. anyway, i'm guessing that Ubuntu is respecting your Mac's permissions - i.e. it allows access to the users that MacOS allows access to. but you don't have the same users...12:57
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petroI've been struggling for a while to mount a new drive with ubuntu, does anyone know how to do this?12:57
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sky123slitpees: sorry for directing those comments at you theey were meant for chronosoft..12:57
brkamikazeHow can I modify a Ubuntu Edgy alternative install CD to include my country's language pack so I don't have to download language packs everytime I install the system?12:58
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sky123chronosoft: nice12:58
sky123chronosoft: the find command is your friend...a very nice command at that..id learn it12:58
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PaSurfhow do you kill a run away process in the terminal in ubuntu?12:58
sliptteesubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 777 -R /home/mac12:58
sliptteesubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu /home/mac12:59
sliptteesubuntu@ubuntu:~$12:59
sliptteesnow?12:59
PaSurfCtrl - c will not work12:59
zackrhello? anybody know about kaffeine here?12:59
kitchePaSurf: killall process12:59
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brkamikazePaSurf: switch to another terminal and run "killall -KILL <program name>"12:59
brkamikazedoesn't work with scripts tough12:59
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PaSurfkitche:  well it just stopped, but it was just scrolling stuff and nothing seemed to work.  I will try your suggestions when it happens again.01:00
zackrPaSurf: sometimes you may have to use sudo killall... if they are started as root01:00
DigitalNinjaWhat's a good web cam tool?01:00
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LjLslipttees: read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224663&page=2 , especially the second posting on the second page01:00
sky123PaSurf: do a ps -ef | more  to find the process and its process id01:00
PaSurfzackr:  basically I could not type anything in the screen01:01
sliptteesLjL: :) oppps01:01
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sky123PaSurf: then kill -9 the PID01:01
zackrCtrl+Alt+F1 ... though how do you get back to X server after going to tty1?01:01
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kitchezackr: ctrl+Alt+F701:02
PaSurfgreat!  thanks for the ideas!!!!01:02
zackrah, nice, thanks01:02
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LjLslipttees, hmm, i think you could try adding these mount options as well:  uid=1000,gid=100001:03
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PaSurfI am trying to run the mysqladmin from edgy and am getting 2003 errors (mysql)  is there something in edgy that would prevent my from contacting my remote mysql db?01:03
zackragain, anybody here know how i can force kaffeine to try loadinging a certail audio stream when it has a choice?01:03
PaSurfMysql is running on a debian machine on network and I can get to and ping the server01:03
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zackra simple 'no' would be just as helpful, i'll look somewhere else :)01:05
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LjLzackr, no, it wouldn't be helpful. there are nearly 900 people here, and if everybody said "no" or "i don't know" to every question that gets asked, it would be a hell.01:05
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kitchePaSmurf: yes if the permissions aren't setup right iin your mysql server01:05
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visik7zackr: a choice for what ?01:06
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philipsky123:  i've just been messing around and found even though i disabled my firewall, it was still blocking pings, i've just disabled it and it works :D01:06
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sky123PaSurf: I know in pgsql there is a paramater called hba.conf that only allows certain ips or connections to it. I am sure mysql has the same...its gotta be a simple file that says...alow these  ips to connect.01:06
mister_robotohas anyone here tried beryl on aiglx with ati?01:06
sky123philip: sweet01:06
LjL!beryl > mister_roboto01:07
philipsky123: so now let me try...01:07
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PaSurfkitche:  when you say rights for mysql, you mean on the directory?  From this machine I can open ssh connection to machine fine, and I am pretty sure I was able to get to the machine with phpmyadmin01:07
zackrvisik7: i want kaffeine to choose a certain language type of subtitle and audio stream when loading a video file, though defaulting to normal use if they aren't there01:07
mister_robotoLjL: i was wondering if anyone here actually tried it01:07
philipsky123: W00Tzorz, i didnt even need to click anything/type anything, its online and working :D01:07
philipXD01:07
kitchePaSmurgf: no I mean in the mysql server01:07
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LjLmister_roboto: i don't know, but some of the people in #ubuntu-xgl probably have01:07
sky123philip: how bloddy sweet is that!!01:08
PaSurfJust seems strange.  I also can go to the machine and get in np with mysql -u and -p01:08
visik7zackr: try on #kaffeine01:08
zackrk, ta01:08
mister_robotoLjL: i don't care about xgl :)01:08
visik7zackr: or kubuntu01:08
maleficomister_roboto: I'm trying compiz and XGL on ati x200m01:08
philipsky123: thanks soo much for everything! :D01:08
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philipbye bye01:08
kitchePaSurf: it's probably not allowing outside connections that aren't from the machine01:08
sky123philip: hang on one sec01:08
philiphokay01:08
mister_robotoLjL: aiglx is built into edgy and from what i've read, that's the way to go over xgl01:08
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zackri'm using ubuntu, but i didn't know there was a kaffeine irc, thanks :)01:08
sky123philip: lets just talk about what we did..01:08
LjLmister_roboto: not the point - #ubuntu-xgl is the channel for XGL, AIGLX, Compiz and Beryl questions. the name just comes from the fact that XGL came first01:08
philipsky123: ok01:08
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mister_robotoLjL:  but i don't know01:08
salah__how do I install the ATI screen driver?01:09
sky123philip: it was about deconstructing the problem..understand "how it works" then back trace other issues01:09
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LjLmister_roboto: so it's the channel you should care about if you're interested in either XGL, AIGLX, Compiz or Beryl01:09
sky123philip: You are next up with helping someone else out ;)01:09
PaSurfI check the conf file in debian.  Also I did a mysqld_safe and system said it was running.  Anyway, will check.01:09
mister_robotoLjL: gotcha. thanks01:09
sky123philip: now you can go to sleep :)01:09
philipsky123: yay, good night01:09
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metressalah_ : http://www.nuxo.net/tutorial-37.html01:09
sky123sweet!01:09
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sliptteesLjL: :(01:10
barktpolarHello Ubuntu Users :)01:10
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metresDo anyone know why dh_make doesnt set the good email ?01:10
barktpolarIs there a way to run 6.06 a little fsater, It takes very long for me to load Dapper01:10
ironfroggyi am so lost. does anyone know of documentation on what the grub stages actually mean?01:11
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PaSurfsorry, what I ran was mysqld_safe &      (just if anyone was interested.....)01:11
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sliptteesLjL: thanks a lot but I go to give up! : (01:12
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zackrone other question - i'm running LIRC, and i would like to run single line terminal commands which emulate keyboard shortcuts for gnome (like ctrl+alt+left arrow, etc.)01:12
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zackri've already got everything set up, i just need to know how to make a command which will run on a single line in the terminal (or failing that, a C/C++ program)01:13
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zackri think you could call them short macros01:15
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jimmygoonWhat is the best application to use for a slideshow with nice transitional effects?01:15
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tuvi don't understand what's wrong with this -generic kernel. first it wouldn't boot. now it boots very slowly and takes too much time to complete booting, and then cpu usage is always hight and the ondemand cpufreq governer uses always max.freq.01:16
jribzackr: look into xmacro and xvkbd01:16
jeanHow can i remove all no used packages in apt cache?01:16
klamsdHow do I install VLC player without internet?01:16
zackrjrib: thanks m801:17
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ispikedis there an upgarde log somewhere?01:17
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tuvispiked, /var/log/dpkg, or /var/log/aptitude if  you use aptitude01:17
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MarcNAnyone has a favorite RSS reader?  I've been using bloglines.com, but want to try a client side for a while.  straw? thunderbird?01:18
ispikedbad stuff happened while I was upgrading.01:18
ironfroggyis there a way to get grub to give more information about what goes wrong? setup in "debug mode" or something?01:18
ironfroggyit fails very quietly.01:18
jimmygoonMarcN: the name Livera comes to mind or something like that01:18
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LjLklamsd: either you don't, or you fetch it and all its various dependencies manually01:19
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LjL!info apt-zip | klamsd, this might come useful as well01:19
ubotuapt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB01:19
LjLbut you need the internet to get it itself ;)01:20
MarcNjimmygoon: not in repos nor very high in google01:20
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sun_how to install quicktime to firefox?01:20
LjLironfroggy, i don't know about grub, but honestly my advice is: reinstall. that you didn't have grub installed in the first place means that something was seriously messed up during installation.01:21
ispikedsun_: probbaly best to use mplayerplug-in.01:21
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jeanIs possible to clear the nom used packages in apt cache? Like inclomplete packages or nom instaled packages?01:21
LjLironfroggy: which CD did you use by the way, out of curiosity?01:21
jimmygoonMarcN: Maybe its Lifera01:21
sun_ispiked what package is that in?01:21
jimmygoonliferea01:21
MarcNjimmygoon: thats it01:21
ispikedsun_: maybe mplayerplug-in?01:21
LjLjean: hm? not sure what you mean, can you make a specific example? there is a cache that you can clean, but i'm not sure it's what you're talking about01:22
klamsd!info apt-zip01:22
ispikedsun_: I think totem has a plugin for Firefox, too.01:22
ubotuapt-zip: Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.15 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 116 kB01:22
ispikedsun_: eitehr way, you'll need to get the quicktime codes to be able to play stuff.01:22
jeanI have download some packages but i have uninstaled.. So i want to remove from the cache...01:22
jimmygoonWhat is the best app to use for slideshows of photos?01:22
klamsdThe packagesa are available on Ubuntu's website?01:22
sun_ispiked where do you get the quicktime codes?01:22
ispikedsun_: er... codecs, rather.01:23
ispikedsun_: you can get them from mplayer's website.01:23
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LjLjean: "man apt-get", look at the "clean" and "autoclean" commands01:23
jeanIOK tKs..01:23
rick_I'm having trouble using my wireless connection. The system identifies my PCMCIA card but it won't use it.  If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate hearing them.01:23
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LjL!wifi | rick_01:23
uboturick_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:23
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fietecan anyone with dapper tell me the exact version of dappers libc6-dev package?01:24
sizzamjimmygoon: i like 'gqview' for viewing pictures.   that has a slideshow feature that you turn on by typing 's'01:24
rick_Thanks!  I was hoping someone had similar experiences.01:25
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jean"apt-get clean" remove all packages or only nom instaled packages.. Sorry i dont undertand in man..01:26
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sizzamjean: nom = non01:26
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jeanOk Tks.. My english is Bad.. :-)01:26
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sizzamjean: i figured, just helping you out :-)01:27
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sportsbabe987http://pastebin.com/82847401:27
jeanTks... :-)01:27
sportsbabe987can someone take a look at me and tell me why sudo apt-get update does that to me?01:27
nextstate2can anybody tell me how to move email out of kmail and into evolution?01:27
Falstiushow can I change which volume my laptop's volume keys affect?01:27
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LjLjean, it removes them all01:28
jimmygoonsizzam: Does it like fade from pic to pic and have "nice effects"01:29
sun_thanks01:29
pet!ops ikb _TomB01:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ops ikb _TomB - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:29
LjLjean, autoclean removes packages that aren't "useful" anymore (obsoleted, etc). but there's no option that i know of that only removes uninstalled packages01:29
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jmxhey...can someone help me get some plugins.....01:29
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sizzamjimmygoon: no, it just flips from pic to pic.  you have choices for random and repeat, and how long for each pic, but thats it01:29
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jimmygoonaww :(01:30
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visualphoenixhey everyone01:30
sportsbabe987MY upgrade keeps farting out, and I think it has to do with this error.01:30
jeanOhh no..01:30
sportsbabe987ove email out of kmail and into01:30
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sportsbabe987can someone take a look at me and let me know?01:30
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jeanI want to remove only non used packages...01:30
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visualphoenixHas anyone experienced segfaults with Firefox 2 on Edgy after the latest Libpng2 security update?01:30
jeanIs possible?01:30
MattJvisualphoenix: I have not...01:31
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visualphoenixThats the only lib i've upgraded and now CTRL-F, or Edit-Find segfaults the browser01:31
jumassilliaHi everyone01:31
jeanOk tanks for help..01:31
visualphoenixi tried moving .mozilla to .mozilla.old and restarting but that doesnt fix the problem01:31
jeanI only want to save space...01:31
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sportsbabe987anyone able to help me out?01:31
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visualphoenixi also tried forcing a reinstall of the package01:32
jumassilliaI have a t40 writting a shell for the wireless bug , but needs a bit of help .. :-)01:32
sizzamjimmygoon: the slideshow feature in gThumb looks like it fades in/out, but i dont see any other features01:32
sportsbabe987because, I don't know why apt-get upgrade is doing that.01:32
MattJvisualphoenix: I just tried, and Ctrl + F works ok for me01:32
jimmygoonfade is good enough at this point thanks01:32
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zackrjrib: i've got xmacro, but I'm unsure how to use it. I've looked on the web for help, but so far the only link i've found is the following: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12159.html01:32
visualphoenixhmmm is there a way i can enable more verbose debugging output from the command line? opening the Error Console in firefox crashes it too01:32
sportsbabe987and, is there a way that will allow me to just upgrade from the disk?01:33
chronosoftfor edgy?01:33
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sportsbabe987chronosoft, yup.01:33
chronosoftwell i would suggest a complete fresh install for edgy01:33
visualphoenixMattJ, you have the latest libpng updates from edgy security installed?01:33
klamsdWhy does Totem not play ANY files at akk?01:33
klamsdall*01:33
jattvisualphoenix: strace firefox01:33
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zackrjrib: if you look near the end of the first post on that link, you'll see an xmacro script - the only thing is I don't think i need it that complicated01:33
jumassilliaQuestion , if [`wc -l eth1.txt` -eq `1`] ;01:33
MattJvisualphoenix: I do01:33
jumassilliaany error ?01:33
sportsbabe987chronosoft,  backing up is a lot of work for all the extras I've done if there's any way I can just download.01:34
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chronosoftthere has been numerous reports, about problems when upgrading from previous versions of ubuntu01:34
zackrjrib: and i'm unsure how to run that script from terminal, too01:34
sportsbabe987chronosoft, or upgrade*01:34
ironfroggysportsbabe987: i tried to do an upgrade to edgy, instead of a fresh install, and im left with a box that refuses to boot no matter what i do.01:34
jason0_How can I install the src package of a program i have installed?01:34
sportsbabe987ironfroggy, you mean even with a cd?01:34
sportsbabe987I figure at the very least I can give it a try.01:35
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ironfroggyi have reinstalled 3 times now and i cant get a boot loader to work. i dont know what got screwed up but something is bad.01:35
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SperMitewhy won't chown let me change the ownership of /media/iso?01:35
Blue-Steel#chown ?01:35
kitcheSperMite: sudo chown01:35
qc_ironfroggy, did you totally delete the disk then re install01:35
sportsbabe987ironfroggy, honestly, try overwriting the mbr?01:35
ironfroggygc_, sportsbabe987: yes and yes01:36
chronosoftsudo chown (the users you want to have the permissions) (the file/folder)01:36
qc_ironfroggy, what exactly happens when you boot, after it has installed01:36
visualphoenixthanks jatt01:36
sportsbabe987how the hell could it do that then? is the disk still good?01:36
klamsdwhy won't Totem play any video/music files01:36
ironfroggygc_: it gets to grub stage1.5 and doesnt go further01:36
chronosofte.g. sudo chown chronosoft /all-ur-base-are-belong-to-us01:36
visualphoenixMattJ, jatt this is the strace log I see before the segfault: http://pastebin.com/82848101:36
sportsbabe987ironfroggy, do you have a good copy of the CD?01:36
sportsbabe987have you tried another CD?01:36
ironfroggyyes01:36
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sportsbabe987wow, do an md5 on the sucker just to be sure. That's a really odd problem.01:37
ironfroggyive verified the physical CD's checksum against the ISO and the md5 listings from the source.01:37
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ironfroggyand ive tried two CDs so far01:37
hildeHow can I see in edgy what ubuntu is loading on starting?01:37
sportsbabe987can you gotten 6.06 to install?01:37
SperMitesudo chown box1 /media/iso chown: changing ownership of `/media/iso': Read-only file system i wanna be able to write to it also tho?01:37
hildeEdgy hangs somewhere I need to know where!01:37
ironfroggyand its nothing weird. single partition and everything.01:37
qc_ironfroggy, have you tried re installing from an alternate cd?01:37
qc_oops yeah you have01:38
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qc_ironfroggy, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 - assuming hda is the disk.01:39
qc_or can you not even get to a command prompt?01:39
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ironfroggyqc_: yeah i can do that from a liveCD01:39
visualphoenixanyone have another idea why firefox2 might be segfaulting after the latest libpng update?01:40
ironfroggygc_: think that will help?01:40
qc_ironfroggy, do it from a live01:40
hildeubuntu edgy won't start... it hangs somewhere01:40
qc_ironfroggy, and try re installing01:40
qc_and see if it does anything01:40
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maldoxj #ubuntu-es01:41
ironfroggyhow does grub know which stage1.5 to use?01:41
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joceshola01:41
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kitcheironfroggy: grub will only have one stage1.5 file in /boot01:42
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RugHowdy all01:43
ironfroggykitche: i see 6.01:43
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RugIf you had to pick a laptop and you only 2 choices were between Intel Graphics or ATi, what would you pick?01:44
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ironfroggyATI, no question01:44
ironfroggyintel graphics chips suck01:44
LadyNikonyep01:44
kitcheironfroggy: should eb one stage1.5 but think it gets split up into many files01:44
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ironfroggykitche: looks like it has one for each filesystem type01:45
jumassilliaHi , i would need a bit of help develloping a sheel for cisco on T40 , i fanyone interested PM me :-)01:45
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Ermac`how do you install photoshop cs2 using Wine??01:46
ironfroggyim so closed to buying a copy of XP right now01:46
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jumassilliaironfroggy why ??01:47
ironfroggyErmac`: have you verified that you even can?01:47
Ermac`no :s01:47
Ermac`:p01:47
ironfroggyjumassillia: ive spent three days now just trying to get this box to boot.01:47
Ermac`isnt it possible?01:47
ironfroggyErmac`: who knows? winehq.com knows.01:47
SilivrenionI'm trying to install ubuntu.. I'm at the partitioner, and I told it to write changes, but it keeps failing to do that..01:47
jumassilliaironfroggy grub issue ??01:47
ironfroggyErmac`: you should check to see if its possible before you try.01:47
Silivrenionanyone have any idea why that would happen?01:47
OlatheHow do I restart a console on Ctrl-Alt-F2 without rebooting ?01:47
ironfroggyjumassillia: bad ones, yes.01:47
_TiG4*** Does anyone know of a good all-around web-front-end I can install on my box to administrate it from the web? ****01:47
ironfroggyOlathe: logout01:48
jumassilliaironfroggy not possible to ssh the machine ?01:48
OlatheThe thing doesn't have a shell to logout of.01:48
ironfroggyjumassillia: it wont boot, what would i ssh into?01:48
ironfroggyOlathe: hm, not sure then.01:48
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ironfroggy_TiG4: thats an empty question. "administrate" wat?01:48
OlatheThe process on it froze a while back and I had to kill it.01:49
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ironfroggy_TiG4: you expect one web front end that knows how to interface to anything you might happen to have installed and want to tinker with?01:49
_TiG4ironfroggy, like do random things. I dunno01:49
ironfroggyOlathe: that shouldnt lock the console... dunnno from there01:49
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ironfroggy_TiG4: O.o now you are really asking literally nothing.01:49
jumassilliaironfroggy Wont even boot .. I see did you switched it off with the plug ?01:49
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_TiG4ironfroggy, way to be an ass about it buddy!01:49
Bobby_EaslandInstall error with 6.10 desktop -> Unknown Interrupt or fault at EIP ...01:49
ironfroggyjumassillia: what do you mean? only when its unresponsive after failing to boot.01:50
Bobby_Easlandanyone know how to solve this?01:50
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ironfroggy_TiG4: just telling you: ask a dumb question, get a dumb answer. ask a good question, maybe get a good answer (or another dumb one).01:50
OlatheCtrl-Alt-F2 switches between two screens, one with the frozen process's output and one with an error message (pnp: failed to activate device 00:0a).01:50
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C|UbuntuHmm. I'm having troubles installing Ubuntu on my old P2 160mb PC. It lags like a bitch on the LiveCD, so I want to install it via text. I've read that you type server at the boot menu but I've not gotten this to work. :(01:50
C|UbuntuAny ideas?01:50
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jumassilliaireonfroggy , i mean ubuntu doeasnt like to be switched off with the button , i did it once .. same as you01:50
ahmeniAnyone have any idea why xkb-data's /etc/X11/xkb/rules/* are symlinks to equivolent base files that don't exist?01:51
jrs_ironfroggy ohotoshop is not listed but photo elements of adobe is...01:51
jrs_photoshop*01:51
kitcheC|Ubuntu: the alternative cd or the server install cd not sure if the livecd does server installs anymore01:51
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C|UbuntuMeh. Its the 6.06 LiveCD01:52
C|Ubuntu:S01:52
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jrs_btw xubuntu 6.10 rox01:52
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ironfroggyjumassillia: i did not do that. it doesnt boot. therefore ubuntu doesnt have anything to do with it.01:52
Bobby_Easlandhas anyone encountered / solved an interrupt or fault at EIP... ??01:52
ironfroggyit doesnt even get to the kernel.01:52
C|UbuntuI'm trying to avoid having to use up my last CD-R..but thanks anyways.01:52
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C|Ubuntuironfroggy: if it has nothing to do with ubuntu, why beg for help here?01:53
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jumassilliaironfroggy Hum ..01:53
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bob4445hey, does anyone know how to get grub back. I installed a second windows so its xp, xp, ubuntu but it has overwritten grub so i cant bot ubuntu anyone know how to fix this??01:53
kitche!grub|bob444501:53
ubotubob4445: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:53
ironfroggyC|Ubuntu: because its the result of the ubuntu install repeatedly failing to do its job,.01:53
michaelwilsonis there a way to install my nVidia drivers via synaptic package manager or add/remove programs?01:54
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michaelwilsoneverything runs shitty now like the screensavers are really choppy and all the games are running at like 5 fps01:55
herrerausmchello everyone01:55
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alex_1234Is this the place for Ubuntu Help?01:56
michaelwilsonyes01:56
ironfroggyjumassillia: do you know much about grub beyond the usual? is there a way to get some kind of debug mode or extra verbosity at boot time?01:56
alex_1234Excellent01:56
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jrib!nvidia > michaelwilson01:57
michaelwilson!nvidia01:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:57
alex_1234I can't boot to the New Edgy Live CD.. I get some x server errors.. even in safe mode01:57
jribalex_1234: have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?01:57
alex_1234how or where would i enter that?01:57
jumassilliaironfroggy unfortunately i spent loads of time to fix it without luck i had to re-install01:57
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ironfroggyalex_1234: a web browser.01:58
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ironfroggyjumassillia: reinstalling is what caused this mess :-/01:58
jribalex_1234: you should be able to press ctrl-alt-f1 and get to a terminal, do you know how to stop/restart X?01:58
alex_1234how cold i do it in a web browser is i can even log in01:58
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jribit's not in a web browser...01:58
jumassilliaironfroggy was it only ubuntu or a dual boot ?01:58
C|UbuntuSo you are to say that the 6.06 liveCD does not support any kind of text installation?01:58
ironfroggyjumassillia: nothing else. one OS, one hdd, one partition. very simple setup. im completely positive its not a configuration issue. im doing something else wrong or there is something im missing that is very subtle.01:59
Bobby_Easland6.10 desktop live CD encounters an interrupt or fault at EIP [...]  error01:59
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czedlitzi have Edgy installed and i have onboard sound with an nforce2 chipset motherboard from Epox, the sound will only work with 1 app at a time, anyway to get it to play from all apps all the time?01:59
ironfroggyalex_1234: from the terminal.02:00
alex_1234no02:00
alex_1234is the ctrl + Alt + backspace?02:00
ironfroggythat restarts X02:00
jribalex_1234: ok, after you enter the command I gave you.  Then do 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' .  You can't do ctrl-alt-backspace since you aren't in X02:00
ironfroggyim gonna watch the simpsons and clear my head02:00
alex_1234cool02:01
alex_1234thanks02:01
kbird212ironfroggy: not sure that will do it02:01
alex_1234let u know if it works02:01
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alex_1234well if i come back that means is didn't02:01
alex_1234lol02:01
MookAny good digital sound card recommendations for Ubuntu?02:01
jribalex_1234: other things to check: ubuntu-desktop is installed.  If you can't get it to work, you'll probably want to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:01
Bobby_Easlandis it safe to assume nobody knows how to fix the interrupt or fault error that 6.10 live CD is generating?02:01
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czedlitzBobby_Easland, never hard one02:02
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C|UbuntuBobby: try comparing md5 sums - make sure your CD is not corrupt02:02
jribBobby_Easland: maybe safe to assume no one here atm knows, try the mailing list or forums02:02
FalstiusBobby_Easland: you can use the text installer on the alternative ubuntu cd02:02
Bobby_Easlandchecksum is good...memory test good02:02
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C|UbuntuCD error test?02:02
Bobby_Easlandalternate craps out with same error02:02
C|Ubuntuhmm02:02
C|Ubuntureally odd02:02
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Bobby_Easlandtext installer on alternate CD no good02:03
klamsdwhen will Ubuntu's package site be up again?02:03
TrippedEvery time I try to use symantic or Add/Remove programs, I get the error:02:03
TrippedE: flumotion: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 102:03
Trippedanyone know what this is?02:03
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hp_Can anyone help me with ubuntu02:05
czedlitzi have Edgy installed and i have onboard sound with an nforce2 chipset motherboard from Epox, the sound will only work with 1 app at a time, anyway to get it to play from all apps all the time?02:05
TrippedAnyone?02:05
jribTripped: pastebin /var/lib/dpkg/info/flumotion.postinst02:05
TrippedAlright02:05
TrippedIn terminal?02:05
jrib!helpme | hp_02:05
ubotuhp_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:05
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AlinuxOSI'm trying to add  beryl-manager in gnome-session-properties , but everytime i reboot the app won't start and if I look in gnome-session-properties " beryl-manager" isn't there anymore.02:05
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jribTripped: pastebin 'apt-cache policy flumotion' as well please02:06
TrippedIt cannot pastebin02:06
AlinuxOSeven after gnome-session-save02:06
jribTripped: what do you mean?02:06
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TrippedIt says "pastebin: command not founf02:07
Tripped*found02:07
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jrib!pastebin | Tripped02:07
ubotuTripped: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:07
jribTripped: it's a website where you copy and paste stuff.  Sorry, I tend to use it as a verb02:07
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hp_I have format and installed ubuntu in the computer but the sound dont work does anyone how to fix it02:08
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xj9000some dood helped me out with wpa earlier02:09
xj9000his advice was way cool02:09
xj9000and now I am connected to my access point02:09
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xj9000and I just wanted to give a shout out to him02:09
xj9000even though I can't remember his name02:09
xj9000I love the ubuntu community02:09
xj9000btw02:09
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C|Ubuntulol02:09
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TrippedAlright02:10
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TrippedI put them in] \02:10
Tripped*in02:10
jribTripped: url to the post?02:10
Trippedhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32864/plain/02:10
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hp_is it posible to get telephon support with the linux02:11
jribTripped: you misunderstood, it's ok.  You have to open /var/lib/dpkg/info/flumotion.postinst in a text editor, then copy and apste the contents for me to see.  The second command, you have to run it in your terminal, then copy and paste the output for me to see02:11
TrippedOh, alright02:12
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hou5tonoccasionally, like this time, when I boot up this laptop with Edgy on it, the sound is non-functional. When I click on the volume control, I get the following message:  " No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."02:14
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dsbhi02:14
xj9000hou5ton: sounds like a driver issue02:15
ciphexas long as we have that out of the way...02:15
hou5tonxj9000:   usually it works02:15
Trippedjrib: postinst file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32865/02:15
hou5tonxj9000:   any suggestions02:15
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CheWakaespaol02:15
CheWakaAlguien habla espaol?02:15
dsbwhat is the directory when logging into a vsftpd server?02:15
TrippedYou soy malo en espanol :(02:15
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CheWaka:( Ok02:15
sethk!es02:16
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:16
Tripped*yo02:16
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BrianGfree the fish02:16
CheWakathks02:16
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hp_is it free support02:17
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xj9000on the sounds02:17
xj9000not sure02:17
xj9000but I am willing to work it out02:17
xj9000what's up02:17
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hentai_i need some help installing the artwiz fonts on edgy02:18
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xj9000hou5ton: like I don't get why it "occasionally" happens02:19
hou5tonxj9000:   well ... just that normally the sounds work fine ... but every .... say ... 7th time I boot up, they aren't there and I get that message.02:19
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hou5tonxj9000:   I don't eithyer02:19
JDStonehentai_: do you look at hentai_?02:19
JDStonehentai_: do you look at hentai?02:19
hou5tonxj9000:   and I could reboot now and they would probably work02:19
hentai_O_O02:19
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xj9000weird02:19
xj9000am googling right now02:19
hentai_do you browse atari forums by any chance?02:19
sizzamhentai_: sudo apt-get install xfonts-artwiz02:19
jribTripped: did you get a chance to post the second command?02:20
hentai_sizzam: that didn't work.02:20
hentai_i do xfontsel and the artwiz fonts don't show up.02:20
sizzamhentai_: what happens02:20
hentai_it installs fine.02:20
xj9000what kind of sound card do you have02:20
hentai_JDStone: do you browse the atari forums?02:20
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JDStonehentai_: no, why?02:21
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hentai_JDStone: because people kept saying that to me there. those exact words02:21
hp_dont now maybe is in the mother board02:21
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wikitylerIs it possible to install just kdialog, without installing KDE?02:21
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JDStonehentai_: haha.  I just had to ask that?02:21
hentai_sizzam: where do the artwiz fonts install to?02:21
JDStoneI have nothing against it02:21
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sizzamhentai_: no clue, this one is officially over my head :-)02:22
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Trippedjrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32868/02:22
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hp_xj9000  dont now maybe is in the mother board02:23
xj9000 hou5ton: run lspci02:23
hentai_sizzam: thanks anyway02:23
jribTripped: k,  'sudo dpkg --configure -a'02:23
hp_ok02:23
xj9000 hou5ton: what kind of audio controller do you have02:23
hou5tonxj9000:   Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)02:23
Apollohow can I place an installed program on the menu or desktop. I have vobcopy installed but I can't find it to use it?02:23
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jribApollo: do you know how to run it from the command line?02:24
dsbok I found the directory for vsftpd, /home/ftp02:24
Trippedjrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32869/02:24
xj9000hou5ton: mine shows: 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)02:24
hp_i get this 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX Host bridge (rev 03)0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440LX/EX - 82443LX/EX AGP bridge (rev 03)02:24
hp_0000:00:04.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 01)02:24
hp_0000:00:04.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)02:24
hp_0000:00:04.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)02:24
hp_0000:00:04.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 01)02:24
hp_0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5465 [Laguna]  (rev 03)02:24
xj9000hou5ton: and works fine02:24
hp_hp@ubuntu:~$02:24
Apollojrib, no i don't isn't there a graphical interface?02:24
jrib!paste | hp_02:24
ubotuhp_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:24
xj9000hou5ton: weird huh02:24
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jribApollo: I have no idea02:25
xj9000hou5ton: both ac'9702:25
jribApollo: how did you install it?02:25
hou5tonxj9000:   yep .... I'll reboot now and it will probably start working .... brb02:25
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Apolloit was in the repo's02:25
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pianoboy3333Anyone here know how to set up and use dansguardian? Is there a gui for it? Is it like norton parental controls...? What does squid have to do with it?02:25
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macogwhey does anyone know how to get rid of "c compiler cannot create executables" error when doing ./configure on openvpn?02:26
jribTripped: 'getent passwd flumotion', no need to pastebin, just say the result here02:26
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jribmacogw: install build-essential02:26
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Trippedjrib: flumotion:x:109:115:Flumotion Streaming Server,,,:/var/run/flumotion:/usr/sbin/nologin02:27
macogwi already have that02:27
jribApollo: dpkg -L vobcopy | grep bin02:27
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jribmacogw: what is the result of:  apt-cache policy binutils | grep -i Installed02:27
Apollojrib ok thanks02:27
macogwjrib: Installed: 2.17-1ubuntu102:27
jribmacogw: weird, umm when do you get that error?02:28
herrerausmchello everyone02:28
macogwjrib, the first error i got was that the openssl headers were missing, so i googled, and found this workaround02:28
herrerausmcCan anyone help a complete n00b with wine02:28
macogw ./configure --with-ssl-lib=/usr/local/ssl/lib/ --with-ssl-headers=/usr/local/ssl/include/02:28
jribmacogw: what are you compiling?02:29
macogwopen vpn02:29
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jribApollo: that command should list commands you can run, then you can add one to your menu by right clicking on the ubuntu menu icon and adding a new launcher02:29
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hectortroyhi folks my isp assigns me a private address 10.x.x.x/24 is it possible to run my own nameservers with my registered domain?02:29
sethkmacogw, installing the headers isn't a workaround, it is just part of the normal installation sequence.02:29
ToHellWithGAwhat command can i use to force regeneration of config files?02:29
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jribTripped: sudo mkdir /var/run/flumotion02:30
hp_is it some ubuntu telephon support to use02:30
fryfrogis there a proper "ubuntu" way of getting and installing cpan perm modules?  or is cpan the way?02:30
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macogwsethk, the headers are installed, it just couldnt find them, so i told it where it was (./configure is all you need if it is looking in the right place)02:30
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hp_some number to get support02:31
sethkmacogw, actually, ubuntu installs them in the wrong place, and the place configure was originally looking for them is correct.02:31
sethkmacogw, not that it makes an difference02:31
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macogwsethk, oh well that's interesting02:31
hp_free support number02:32
jribhp_: does not exist02:32
fryfroghp_: yeah, sure... since you paid for it, there is a large staff of telephone support personel standing by :)02:32
herrerausmchow do i add missing files, that wine needs02:32
kbirdhehe02:32
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kbird1-800-microsoft02:32
hentai_Every time I try to install xfonts-artwiz, it deletes /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc then complains that /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory x02:33
hentai_x_x02:33
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ToHellWithGAherrerausmc: which files do you need?02:33
jribTripped: did that work ok?02:33
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sethkhentai_, create the directory02:33
hentai_i did02:34
hentai_it deletes it02:34
hp_fryfrog you mean ther is how match does it cost02:34
ToHellWithGAto: anybody who remembers the apt-get command line option for forcing rebuilding of config files who feels like telling me.  from: me.  message: please do.02:34
hp_is it expensive02:34
sethkhentai_, the install deletes the directory?  that's very odd.02:34
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hentai_that's what it does...02:34
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fryfroghp_: honestly, i don't know if there is ubuntu telephone support.  someone *probably* does it, but i imagine it is more expensive than any *user* would want to pay.  Maybe it is oriented toward corporate customers, if one exists02:35
jribToHellWithGA: you could just purge and then install again if no one knows02:35
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ToHellWithGAjrib: it's gdm.  i'd rather not02:35
hp_ok02:35
jribToHellWithGA: why?02:35
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hp_is debian better than ubntu02:36
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ToHellWithGAjrib: b/c i can't find the ubuntu-server and ubuntu-desktop packages02:36
ToHellWithGAis it not possible to purge whole meta-packages?02:36
wikitylerIn synapic, are the download speeds in Kilobits, or kilobytes?02:36
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Trippedjrib: Yes, thank you.02:37
ablyssshould be bits02:37
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jribTripped: your error went away with just that?  I wasn't sure if you needed to dpkg --configure -a again02:37
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TrippedNo, I just tried installing something and no error happened02:37
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jribTripped: ok, you should confirm it has proper ownership now, what does  'ls -ld /var/run/flumotion' say?02:38
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Trippeddrwxr-xr-x 6 flumotion flumotion 160 2006-11-19 20:31 /var/run/flumotion02:39
LjLToHellWithGA: it's perfectly possible, but you'll just purge the metapackage, not the dependent packages :) and i doubt you'd want to purge ubuntu-desktop anyway ;)02:39
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jribTripped: great, you are good to go afaict.  I encourage you to file a bug at bugs.ubuntu.com since that seems like a problem in the postinst script02:39
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herrerausmci keep getting the error when i try to install something using wine "no program start menu" what am i doing wrong?02:39
TrippedOk, thanks02:39
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ToHellWithGAi'd played with a few too many things over the weeks that i used this machine in dapper and now after dist-upgrading to edgy, X and gdm fail to start.  is there a good way to fix this without reinstalling?02:40
ugarit_anyone one had "Software index is broken" error in synaptic after upgrading from 6.06 to 6.1.  The instructions to fix are: sudo apt-get install -f, but I get many errors which could   be found here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32871/02:41
ToHellWithGAugarit_: it's 6 point 10, year and month.02:41
ugarit_thanks02:42
ToHellWithGAugarit_: i'd recommend "sudo apt-get update"02:42
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ToHellWithGAif the index is broken, perhaps updating the indices might help02:42
herrerausmcanyone know how to fix the problem "no program start menu" with wine?02:42
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ugarit_ToHellWithGA does'nt help!02:42
ToHellWithGAbummer!02:43
xj9000ToHellWithGa: I would try a: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver02:43
ToHellWithGAthanks xj, will do02:43
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herrerausmccan someone help me configure wine?02:43
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xj9000yeah, what's up with wine02:44
ugarit_where are the pre-removal scripts located?02:44
herrerausmci got it installed02:44
xj9000okay, now hat02:44
xj9000what02:44
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jribugarit_: /var/lib/dpkg/info/02:44
ugarit_thanks02:44
xj9000herrerausmc, what do you need02:44
herrerausmcbut when i go to install something by right clicking and add it i get the error "no program start menu"02:44
xj9000herrerausmc: what are you trying to install02:45
herrerausmcstarcraft02:45
xj9000herrerausmc: let me tell you what I am thinking first of all02:45
xj90001) wine is beta-ware02:45
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xj90002) wine can make some progrs work02:45
ixianis it possible to set an 'avatar' for your user(s)? i am using a custom gdm theme, and there is a little picture by my name... but i can't figure out how to change this02:46
xj90003) not all02:46
xj90004) you may be able to get it to work02:46
xj9000but you gotta work hard02:46
xj9000the other thing is, I gotta google02:46
xj9000just sec02:46
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ixianjust search for something like wine +starcraft on google02:46
ixianyou'll probably find something02:47
ToHellWithGAherrerausmc: to expand on xj's musings on wine: it is a working win32 api but does not necessarily have the patchy stack of activex and drivers necessary for some programs that full-blown windows provides02:48
herrerausmck ill search it02:48
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ToHellWithGAherrerausmc: if you run it from a console, you may get useful output that will help your googling02:48
xj9000what the crap02:49
ToHellWithGA!ohmy02:49
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:49
xj9000I am trying to come up with a name for wine games02:49
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xj9000wine office is cross over office02:49
xj9000what did wine for games name it self02:49
ToHellWithGAcedega02:49
xj9000there ya go02:49
ToHellWithGA<3 teamwork02:49
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Alethes!ohmy said "ToHellWithGA"? hehe02:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ohmy said "ToHellWithGA"? hehe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:50
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K1765How do I connect my linux pc to a windows network?02:51
nixternalK1765: sudo apt-get install samba02:51
postangcslvK1765: Samba02:51
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gnomefreakesaym: is there a reason you pinged me?02:51
sully86anyone know how i can get my friends' screen on vnc, we are both behind routers02:51
sully86?02:51
ablysssmb4k is a good kde proggy for networking02:51
nixternalthen change /etc/samba/smb.conf    NETWORK = Your Network02:51
mitch__Will anyone here be buying windows vista?02:51
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synchkATTENTION ALL FREENODE FLIERS: This is a special NOTICE: The secret channel ##ASB-nexus has been uncovered. This is the channel where admins meet. Please join.02:51
ablyssi think i spelled it wrong.. sm4k or smb4k02:52
gnomefreaksynchk: lose the caps and bring it to #ubuntu-offtopic02:52
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ToHellWithGAsully86: you'll want to open the proper ports for VNC in your routers' configurations02:52
esaymyea just checking stuff02:52
ToHellWithGAsully86: the manuals for most routers are available online, and the VNC configuration should specify which port(s) you use02:52
gnomefreakesaym: no need to ping me with anything thats  a good way to get banned02:52
gnomefreakmitch__: join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask.02:53
synchkhi gnomefreak02:53
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ugarit_ok I solved the problem here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32871/ by editing each prerm script to return exit 002:53
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gnomefreakLjL: ?02:54
hou5tonxj9000:   by the way ..... i shut down the laptop, started it, and the sound works now02:54
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xj9000hou5ton: weird huh02:55
xj9000I wonder whats up02:55
CorpseFeederi got printer problems.02:55
sully86TOHELLWITHGA: I know how to open the ports and that part but i dont know how to connect through the vnc after that what to type in the address part?02:56
hou5tondon't know ... :-) .... it's just a cheap eMachine .... maybe that's the problem.  :-)02:56
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ToHellWithGAsully86: you should setup a dynamic dns alias.  http://www.dyndns.org has options02:56
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CorpseFeederthe IP address of the computer with the printer connected has changed.. now I can't change the IP address in printer settings to match the new address02:56
ToHellWithGAby setting an alias, you can have something like sully86.dyndns.org and not have to know the IP address02:56
DarkGreysully86: You could use your dynamic/static IP as well02:56
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K1765Where in samba do I change Network =  i dont see it in conf02:57
sully86tohellwithga: is it required to do that cuz i might have trouble setting that up on unix02:57
macogwso, nobody has any idea why, even with build-essential installed, it says c compiler cannot create executables?02:57
ToHellWithGAsully86: there's a package for ubuntu that updates dyndns called "ddclient"02:57
gnomefreakmacogw: what version of build-essential02:57
macogwthe most recent in the repos02:58
ToHellWithGAif you make an account using dyndns' website, make an alias on that site, and run ddclient as a service it should work02:58
sully86tohellwithga: oh really cool02:58
gnomefreakmacogw: apt-cache policy build-essential02:58
gnomefreakmacogw: what version is installed02:58
sully86tohellwithga: so then that person would just addme as that address and it would work?02:58
CorpseFeederif I change the printer's IP address in the printer settings, that just creates a new printer. and when I remove the old printer with the wrong IP address, the new one deletes instead and the old one with the wrong IP address takes its place. I am stuck and need to print. Somebody save me.02:58
FlatsOk I have a problem, when I try to compile kvirc I get an error message.  When i llok at the config.log, this seems to be the error,  Would someone mind taking a look?  Linux noob here...    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32875/02:59
macogwgnomefreak: 11.302:59
gnomefreakmacogw: what is the exact error and what are you trying to do02:59
esaymwell i didnt know that.  i just thought pinging was the same in irc as it is else where. i was just checking network stuff03:00
CorpseFeederit won't even let me remove the old printer when it is the only printer available. What do I do?03:00
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esaymgnomefreak03:00
macogwgnomefreak, i'm trying to build openvpn from source, and the error is "C compiler cannot create executables"03:00
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Flatsmacogw: same error I'm getting with kvirc03:00
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CorpseFeederuh.. it just changed it's mind and decided to let me delete the old printer after all. Crisis averted.03:00
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gnomefreakmacogw: this is during ./configure?03:01
nicK`ugh, anyone know a program to get the text from '**********', like.. if it was a password?03:01
macogwgnomefreak: yes,  ./configure --with-ssl-lib=/usr/local/ssl/lib/ --with-ssl-headers=/usr/local/ssl/include/03:01
ugarit_so why is 6.10 faster than 6.06?03:01
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bluefox83ok, my friend is trying to install ubuntu dapper on his crappy pc, and it keeps getting stuck installing the tango icon theme, and then freezes..i need help getting him past that..03:01
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macogwgnomefreak: the extra is because ssl headers are located somewhere other than where most distros put them03:01
mister_robotougarit_: they compiled it with the fast flag turned on03:02
gnomefreakmacogw: better yet pastebin the output of ./configure.  --with-ssl-lib and --with-ssl-headers doesnt work?03:02
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ugarit_are you kidding :-)03:02
Flatsmacogw: yep try cat config. and see whats bombing03:02
mister_robotougarit_: that's just a joke :)03:02
Flatserr config.log03:02
Flatscat config.log macogw03:02
DarkGreyugarit_: Various fixes and better managment03:02
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gnomefreakwell that answers that. but it should work without paths. everything ive built works without the paths03:03
nicK`does anybody know a program that can get the text out of a password that has astarisks? (***)03:03
Flatsnick: not for linux03:03
nicK`Flats: wine ftw?03:03
macogwwhere's the pastebin?03:03
lastnode!pastebin03:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:03
ugarit_so after multiple updates I have about 8 kernels, is it safe to delete all but the last?03:03
gnomefreakmacogw: the error is most likely not due to gcc but something with the ./configure options03:03
lastnodeugarit_, id keep about 2 or 3, just to be safe03:04
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gnomefreak!pastebin | macogw03:04
ubotumacogw: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:04
snowshoefox!kernel03:04
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild03:04
Flatsdamn can't figure out ftw?  sorry03:04
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mitch__Is there a program on Ubuntu I can use to purchase music similar to the iTunes store? Besides the amaroK music store?03:04
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nicK`Flats: for the win03:04
macogw!pastebin | configure:2670: checking for C compiler default output file name03:04
macogwconfigure:2673: gcc   -I/usr/local/ssl/include/ -I. -lkrb5 -L/usr/local/ssl/lib/ conftest.c  >&503:04
macogw/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkrb503:04
macogwcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status03:04
macogwconfigure:2676: $? = 103:04
ubotuconfigure:2670: checking for C compiler default output file name: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:04
Flatsthere ya go03:04
macogwconfigure: failed program was:03:04
macogw| /* confdefs.h.  */03:04
macogw|03:04
nicK`as in, just link me to a windows one and i'll use wine?03:04
macogw| #define PACKAGE_NAME "OpenVPN"03:04
macogw| #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "openvpn"03:04
ixianLOL03:04
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macogw| #define PACKAGE_VERSION "2.0.9"03:04
lastnodeoh noes03:04
macogw| #define PACKAGE_STRING "OpenVPN 2.0.9"03:04
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macogw| #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "openvpn-users@lists.sourceforge.net"03:04
macogw| #define IFCONFIG_PATH "/sbin/ifconfig"03:04
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Flatsfor windows there are many ****** to real text password programs03:04
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FlatsOk I have a problem, when I try to compile kvirc I get an error message.  When i llok at the config.log, this seems to be the error,  Would someone mind taking a look?  Linux noob here...    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32875/03:05
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lastnodegnomefreak, another reason we need Upstream _soon_.. ;-) wanna check out the latest trunk? :-)03:05
macogw| main ()03:05
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macogw|   ;03:05
nicK`rofl03:05
gnomefreaklastnode: cant right now03:05
macogw|   return 0;03:05
ixianlol03:05
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nicK`ROFL ON HIM03:05
lastnodegnomefreak, i meant whenever :-)03:05
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Flatshehehe03:05
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Flatspoor gnome03:05
gnomefreaklastnode: yeah03:05
Flatserr macogw03:06
snowshoefoxany other wikis for building kernel for ubuntu?03:06
snowshoefoxi have mine all built, but need some help debugging03:06
lastnodesnowshoefox, that's probably the best03:06
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lastnodethe link you got03:06
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snowshoefoxhmm ok03:06
webhedAnyone know if a simple way I could have aMule start automatically whenever the computer is idle? Like a screensaver?03:06
webhedknow if = know OF03:06
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LjL!info loadwatch | webhed03:07
ubotuloadwatch: Run a program using only idle cycles. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0+1.1alpha1-5 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 80 kB03:07
webhedLjL: thanks03:07
webhedcan I just install loadwatch via add remove or via synaptic?03:08
webhedapt-get is doing it03:08
LjLwebhed: synaptic, apt-get or whatever you prefer. it's a package, there are many ways to install packages03:09
webhedI got it03:09
webhedI just apt-got it03:09
FlatsAnyone here KVirc to work on Edgy03:09
Flatscompile I mean?03:09
tonyyarussoWhat do you have to do to get a system to recognize new PCI cards you just put in?03:09
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lastnodetonyyarusso, reboot, so it's picked up at startup?03:10
tonyyarussolastnode: Tried that03:10
webhedLjL: does it add a shortcut into the menu somewhere?03:10
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lastnodetonyyarusso, lspci lists them?03:10
LjLwebhed: i think it's a console-only program03:10
webhedok03:10
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webhedlooks that way03:10
tonyyarussolastnode: Yep03:11
klamsdHow do I make ubuntu stop asking for password everytime I install?03:11
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lastnodetonyyarusso, so what do you mean "work" then? what is the card?03:11
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jerpklamsd, like an auto login?03:11
herrerausmcim about to install starcraft on wine but dont know where to install it to?03:12
herrerausmccan someone help me out03:12
tonyyarussolastnode: Two are ethernet cards, one's a modem.  I'm not really worrying about the modem yet - just the others.  I'm hoping they'll show up in ifconfig03:12
herrerausmcdo i put it on the windows part of wine or what?03:12
lastnodetonyyarusso, they don't.03:12
jerpklamsd, I think it's somewheres in your system settings03:12
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klamsdjerp > Yes I guess so03:12
drbreenherrerausmc just try ?03:12
klamsdOk thanks03:12
lastnodeherrerausmc, typically install it to program files inside wine. that's what i do.03:12
Aji-Dahakaso, is there a supported way to migrate from amd64 to i386?03:12
herrerausmcthanks last03:12
herrerausmcfreggin happy now03:13
lastnodeherrerausmc, enjoy!03:13
mcphailAji-Dahaka: no03:13
tonyyarussolastnode: Was that a question or a statement?03:13
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, migrate what? did you change processors?03:13
lastnodetonyyarusso, sorry, i thought there was a ? at the end. do they?03:13
tonyyarussolastnode: No03:13
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Aji-Dahakalastnode yup03:13
jerpklamsd, system/admin/login window03:13
Keeloi know this is offtopic but, can you mix RDRAM brands?03:13
Keelojust like this: [NEC]  [NEC]  - [Samsung]  [Samsung] 03:13
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herrerausmcstuff like this makes me love linux03:13
lastnodetonyyarusso, google for the cards and drivers? look at the Ubuntu hardware compatability list?03:14
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jerpfind a tab that will ahve it there for you, I think it's the third one (right to left)03:14
Aji-Dahakahmm...so I'll have to reinstall an x86 and then copy the home directories over, huh?03:14
Aji-Dahaka*growl*03:14
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lastnodeAji-Dahaka, so what do you want to migrate? why not just copy your system settings over? your programs im, afraid, will not migrate03:14
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lastnodeAji-Dahaka, basically, yes. because of the different way they would have been compiled.03:15
Enforcerhi03:15
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jerpklamsd, I was wrong it;s the fourth one under security tab03:15
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lastnodehowdy Enforcer03:15
mcrcan someone tell me which dpkg has "resize" in it?03:15
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Aji-Dahakalastnode yeah, I was kind of hoping that switching architectures in some-or-other file and an apt-get incantation could force all of the packages to reinstall but in 32-bit versions03:15
macogwgnomefreak, here's the pastebin (cuz pricechild just showed how) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32877/03:15
Enforceri have a little general understanding problem i hope you can help me a little03:15
ReporterXhi all!03:15
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LjLmcr: "dpkg -S /usr/bin/resize"03:16
Enforcerim running edgy here03:16
ReporterXi would like to disable the anti-aliasing efect on gtk fonts. I can i do it ?03:16
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Arigatowhat is the /opt/ fold for?03:16
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, that's a thought actually, we shoul ddo more research03:16
herrerausmcok, now i installed startcraft and BW and i got to run it, it says that the CD is no cd inserted03:16
herrerausmcwhat now??03:16
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lastnodeherrerausmc, er, wine needs to find your cd drive03:16
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Enforcer~# file /lib/libc-2.4.so03:16
lastnodeherrerausmc, can i /query you?03:16
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lastnodeherrerausmc, (pm)?03:16
Enforcer- /lib/libc-2.4.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped03:16
herrerausmcya03:16
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Enforcerdoes that mean the lib only works on 2.6 kernel verions ?03:17
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Enforcerversions03:17
mcphailReporterX: System  Preferences  Font and switch it off03:17
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Aji-DahakaI would be a bit surprised to have no way to do it in kubuntu as it was fairly trivial in freebsd to do this03:17
ReporterXmcphail: thanks03:17
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Aji-Dahakabut mcphail said there was no way ... wonder what makes it so difficult03:17
tonyyarussolastnode: They release source code even.  One of the two is listed as working on the wiki; the other isn't mentioned.03:18
mcrLjL: if you don't have the package installed, it won't tell you what package to install.03:18
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ReporterXmcphail: It's possible to disable anti-aliasing on gtk apps under kubunut ?03:18
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LjLmcr: indeed, but i think xterm is usually installed by default03:18
lastnodetonyyarusso, hmmm i have no idea why they don't show up. see if a package (firmware etc) needs to be insatlled03:18
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slavikAji-Dahaka: what are we talking about?03:19
LjL!apt-file > mcr03:19
mcphailReporterX: no idea about GTK apps under KDE I'm afraid. KDE has it's own fonts dialog somewhere03:19
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ReporterXmcphail: ok... thanks03:19
tonyyarussolastnode: I'll poke around.  btw, dmesg has lines for each of them, giving designators of eth1 and eth2, and MAC addresses03:19
Aji-Dahakaslavik I have an amd64 OS installed and want to migrate to an x86 OS in-place (I'm out of spare disks)03:19
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lastnodetonyyarusso, that's really weird. so ifconfig shows _nothing_ ?03:20
jamesbrinkdoes anyone here know what this means, im trying to compile a driver03:20
jamesbrinkand i get this dumb error03:20
Imel_20.hiiii03:20
tonyyarussolastnode: Yeah.  Poking the ifconfig man page now just in case03:20
jamesbrinkmake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-amd64-generic/build: No such file or directory.  Stop03:20
slavikAji-Dahaka: do you have lots of customized stuff yet? (configs, personal files, etc)03:20
lastnodetonyyarusso, cool03:20
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Aji-Dahakaslavik a bit, yeah03:21
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, we were discussing this a while back, and someone in #-offtopic suggested a fix. generating a list of installed apps etc. i forget how he did it though.03:21
Aji-Dahakamaybe only 30GB or so of home directories and a few hundred custom config files03:21
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slavikdpkg -l03:21
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slavikthat gives a list of installed stuff03:22
ANaRcHiC-nixi need help setting up the java runtime environment, can someone help plz?03:22
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lastnodeANaRcHiC-nix, what do you need?03:22
slavik!java03:22
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:22
Enforceranybody have an idea what to do about my problem ? the main problem is with LD_ASSUME_KERNEL="2.4.1" all kind of problems cant find there libs anymore03:22
Aji-Dahakaslavik alright, should I save that to a file somewhere?03:22
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tonyyarussolastnode: Hey now, magical -a switch03:22
slavikAji-Dahaka: dpkg -l output?03:22
Aji-Dahakayup03:22
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, id do dpkg -l > installed_apps03:23
slavikwell, that isn't of much use ...03:23
ANaRcHiC-nixlastnode: i installed the JRE from the sun website and i have it working in firefox but i would like mt programs to use the sun jre too03:23
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Enforcerisnt there a package on edgy for 2.4 kernel libc ? so i can have them put in ld config ?03:23
slavikyou want to reinstall them, don't you? (after formatting)03:23
lastnodetonyyarusso, i was just gonna suggest that, actually :-) so the cards are there?03:23
Aji-Dahakaformatting is exactly the problem03:23
slavikhold on03:23
tonyyarussolastnode: Looks good - going to try bring one up03:23
Aji-Dahakathe installed program list isn't even all that important to me...03:23
lastnodetonyyarusso, good luck :-)03:23
Aji-DahakaI can reinstall apps as I need them03:24
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, then you just need /home and what configs, exactly?03:24
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Aji-Dahakalastnode yeah, that's roughly the issue03:24
Aji-Dahakalastnode but I don't have spare room to hold the stuff03:24
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, what configs, exactly?03:24
lastnodeAji-Dahaka, burn to multiple DVDs03:24
slaviklocate *.conf > config_files03:24
slavikwhat about resizing the partitions?03:25
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Aji-Dahakalastnode ideally /etc/passwd, and the /etc/X11 and the global kde configs and ...03:25
mcphailAji-Dahaka: external drives are cheap these days03:25
Aji-Dahakaslavik no non-full partitions (only 2 partitions total)03:25
Aji-Dahakamcphail but is it that hard of an operation to do an in-place upgrade?03:25
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slavikAji-Dahaka: how much space on each?03:25
diamondjoeanybody ably to help a newb with a driver problem?03:25
Aji-DahakaI really don't see why it should be hard for an OS to use03:25
RedKriegHi all, I'm trying to get swat running for samba setup, but it doesn't seem to start and fails silently.  Anyone know where I should go to find xinetd logs?  I'm following this tutorial: http://jonpeck.blogspot.com/2006/11/how-to-configure-80-fileserver-in-45.html03:25
lastnodediamondjoe, ask and we'll see03:26
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Aji-Dahakaslavik about 2GB on one and 8GB free on the one that I have ubuntu installed on03:26
slavikmcphail: if hard drive space is cheap, then why doesn't everyone have a petabyte or so of storage?03:26
diamondjoeI have a 6 year old dell laptop03:26
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diamondjoei'm trying to load the drivers for a belkin 54g wireless card03:26
slavikAji-Dahaka: hmm ... how much data do you need to back up?03:26
diamondjoekeep getting syntax errors in terminal03:26
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mcphailAji-Dahaka: the 64 bit OS is different on every level. There is no supported way to change to the 32 bit OS03:27
Aji-Dahakaslavik about 30GB03:27
gu014hello, when i try to do a /etc/init.d/apache2 restart i receive this error message: apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName  any suggestions?03:27
tim167I have no sound in flash movies in Firefox, how can I fix this?03:27
diamondjoethe forums i have tried suggest rt2500.inf as the right driver03:27
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lastnodediamondjoe, what errors, pastebin them03:27
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spydervs2could somebody help me03:28
postangcslvtim167: upgrade to the flash 9 beta03:28
spydervs2???03:28
mcphailAji-Dahaka: and, to be honest, if you are going to try such a thing without backing up your data first you are going to regret it03:28
diamondjoesh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('03:28
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dwangospydervs2, not if you don't ask a question03:29
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spydervs2kk, I'm unable to install any program03:29
tim167postangcslv: i'll have a look03:29
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rc-1java applets arnt resizing (the window does, but not whats inside it) how to fix>?03:29
jvolkman-hspydervs2, how are you trying to install programs?03:30
Aji-Dahakamcphail I still don't see why it should be a difficult or (even more importantly) dangerous operation.  should simply remove all of the packages installed and install all new versions03:30
bluefox83ok, my friend is instaling ubuntu dapper alternate, and the cd boots and he comes up to a menu of items, what do i tell him to pick to go into the ubuntu installer? i don't remember any options03:30
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Aji-Dahakamaybe I'm missing some big complexity specific to ubuntu, but it really was safe and trivial for freebsd03:30
RedKriegbluefox83: it should be the first option, "Install to hard disk" if memory serves03:30
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bingnet922Hi channel! First question of the day: I am trying to connect to ubuntu running samba under user level security. I can see guest OK shares, but I can't access [homes] . In WinXP and Win2k the authentication dialog simply reappears with no error. Clues?03:30
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jayHatHow do I kill the fish 'free the fish'?03:31
swsrushbingnet: did you add the users with smbpasswd?03:31
RedKriegjayHat: restart gnome panel03:31
jvolkman-hjayHat, killall gnome-panel03:31
bluefox83RedKrieg, it Install in text mode, Install in OEM mode, install a server, check CD integrity, rescue a broken system, memory test, boot from first HD and under all that a bunch of function options...03:31
buzzedhi03:31
RedKriegbluefox83: oh, text mode03:32
jayHatThank you RedKrieg and jvolkman-h03:32
buzzedwhat is this... Xirlink Webcam Linux Driver03:32
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AG28If ubuntu is loaded on the second partition of a S-ATA drive, where should Grub be installed.  XP is in partition 1.  (HD0 keeps failing).03:32
mcphailAji-Dahaka: well, for a start dpkg/apt have the architecture "hard wired" at compile time and will always try to use the 64bit packages. If you get over that one, it is only the first of your worries03:32
lastnodeAG28, grub should be installed to your MBR?03:32
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buzzedactually i am trying to get the webcam to work03:32
bluefox83RedKrieg, the kernel modules on the disk are bad..can i switch him to a terminal to apt-get install a newer kernel and modules?03:32
AG28I agree, but how does one do this from the v6.10 installer?03:32
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Aji-Dahakaso if I could install a 32-bit dpkg and then dpkg -i a 32-bit apt ... it would want to grab 32-bit binaries automagically, mcphail ?03:33
sn0nfirefox bug needs attn!! ;-)03:33
groutin term all the m's are stuck to other letters, anyone know how to fix this?03:33
buzzed/dev/.static/dev/video003:33
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RedKriegbluefox83: off of the alternate install cd, that might be a bit rough.  it's not designed to get you a working live command line interface to my knowledge03:34
spydervs2jvolkman-h, lets do a private convo, it'll be easier03:34
joevandykIs there a way to clear out the test database after every test?03:34
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slavikAji-Dahaka: here's a bad idea ... change the repos to the 32bit ones and then apt-get distupgrade ...03:34
RedKriegbluefox83: if he can boot to the regular install disk he could do it from a terminal03:34
slavikAji-Dahaka: I would not try the above03:34
zaehlasI'm trying to work with Wine, and although I can install apps, I can't seem to run them, I get no errors, they just start to show up, then quietly disappear.03:34
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slavikzaehlas: run them from terminal ... there might be errors03:34
mcphailAji-Dahaka: maybe, but I doubt it :) Version numbering would be the same between the two architectures, so unlikely to update. You'd end up with a mess of 32 and 64 bit apps, each eaxpecting different word sizes etc03:35
bluefox83RedKrieg, he can't, for some reason the drive wont read the image03:35
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Aji-Dahakamcphail there's a flag to force reinstalling of all packages, right?03:35
mouahi03:35
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zaehlasslavik: I have, no messages followin. I get a flashing cursor, and the Wine application appears on my bar, then it disappears, but no messages in the terminal itself at all03:35
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mcphailAji-Dahaka: no idea03:35
RouninHello... Does anyone know whether it's currently possible to get 802.1x authentication for Ethernet connections during installation of Ubuntu?03:35
RouninThe same used for wireless03:35
Aji-Dahakaseems like if I debootstrap to root, and then issue a command to the new 32-bit app to reinstall everything ...03:36
mouai have a new macbook pro core 2 duo, which version should i use ? x86 or 64 ?03:36
slavikzaehlas: WINEDEBUG="all" wine windowsapp.exe03:36
RedKriegbluefox83: unless he can boot to single user mode off of the hard disk under a different (older) kernel, not much I can think of03:36
slavikmoua: I suggest 32bit because of flash and such03:36
zaehlasslavik OK, let me try that.03:36
mcphailAji-Dahaka: your data cannot be very valuable to you03:36
slavikmoua: you can use 64bit though03:37
Aji-Dahakawhy would this endanger my data?03:37
bluefox83RedKrieg, grub was installed fine, but it didn't install the kernel or it's modules right..03:37
bz029whats the best FLash player i can use with Edgy on PPC03:37
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groutanyway to set fonts to default?03:37
Aji-DahakaI don't see this rewriting /home (my most valuable data)03:37
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bluefox83and it keeps freezing his system during installation03:37
Aji-Dahakaand there will be no reformat so the filesystem should stay consistent03:37
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mcphailAji-Dahaka: for a start, you are changing kernel architecture via an unsupported route. Can you say that your filesystem drivers will remain consistent throughout that process?03:38
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Aji-Dahakawell, the in-memory kernel will be consistent and the on-disk version should be written consistently so when I reboot it should be consistent03:38
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Aji-Dahakait's not as if I'm rewriting my current filesystem drivers during runtime03:38
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bluefox83does the alternate cd have a shell in it that i could boot into?03:39
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RedKriegbluefox83: not that I know of, sorry03:39
mcphailAji-Dahaka: you make rather brave assumptions :)03:39
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bluefox83what does the Rescue broken installation do?03:39
mouathanks slavik03:39
slavikmoua: np03:39
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mouaexcept flash, what's problems with 64bits version ?03:40
slavikmoua: 64bit is fine, but there are troubles with multimedia stuff ... I believe you can chroot to 32bit for those things03:40
zaehlasslavik OK, I ran that command using one of the apps I had installed earlier, I specified winedebug="all", does that save the debug information in a file?   Wine did not attempt to load the app, nor did I see a new file appear in my home directory, or should I look elsewhere for debug info?03:40
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slavikmoua: used to be OO but that is fixed03:40
Motorheadweird... my list of ppl only shows 2 ppl03:40
slavikzaehlas: all the stuff should be printed to screen03:40
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Aji-Dahakamcphail does it help that I'm a kernel dev by day and that my questions regarding this operation are solely inquiries into how ubuntu's package system will accomodate this safe and possible operation?03:41
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zaehlasslavik: I got a terminal prompt. I guess I blew it on the wine install? and it's not really working at all?03:41
nuts`whats the package for flash player for firefox?03:41
zaehlasslavik: no information following the command at all03:41
rjent_could someone tell my why serpentine is looking for /dev/sg0 when my dvd-burner is on /dev/sg1 ? Thx03:41
mcphailAji-Dahaka: it doesn't help at all. If you were a kernel dev _and_ a dpkg guru then it might...03:41
Aji-Dahakathat's why I'm asking the dpkg gurus ;)03:42
Motorheadhelp03:42
slavikzaehlas: is this all using the same windows app?03:42
Motorheadnot help lol03:42
mcphailAji-Dahaka: :)03:42
Aji-Dahakabut I am quite sure that the filesystem will remain consistent the entire run03:42
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Varangerhello03:42
Motorheadi am just checking commands so don't pay attention to me03:42
mcphailAji-Dahaka: if you can manage to do this safely, a howto would be nice...03:42
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slavik!ru03:42
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke03:42
Motorheadomg03:42
slavikooh, not good ...03:43
zaehlasslavik: yep. I've only tried to install one app, as a test app. Exact lines I'm using are wine "C:\Program Files\Yahoo! Games\Bejeweled 2 Deluxe\WinBej2.exe" or the debug line you gave me winedebug="all" wine "C:\Program Files\Yahoo! Games\Bejeweled 2 Deluxe\WinBej2.exe"03:43
Motorheadindeed03:43
cmwebCan some one tell me how to open my repositories03:43
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cmwebi waant to edit the list03:43
VarangerI have installed Dosbox, does anyone know how to make audio work???03:43
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LjLcmweb: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:43
jerpsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list03:43
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monokromeyo03:44
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zaehlas'sup03:44
monokromeChillin.03:44
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monokromeTryin' to fix my cam.03:44
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Aji-Dahakawell that wasn't nearly as helpful as I was hoping :p  but here goes nothin'03:45
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Trainstrokerhow do i use a wireless card w. dapper?03:45
Motorheadguys, does anyone know a program like kate but for gnome???? (i know gedit, but i want one with integrated terminal, emacs maybe?)????03:46
Aji-DahakaMotorhead could always just use kate03:46
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Aji-Dahakaor emacs03:46
Aji-Dahakaor vim with the terminal addition03:46
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Motorheadkate crashes :/03:46
Motorheadso emacs i guess03:46
Aji-Dahakathat's not great03:46
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Motorheadwould it be recomendable to reinstall kate?03:47
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Aji-DahakaMotorhead wouldn't hurt anything, fo sho03:48
Motorheadok, ill try it, thnx03:48
cmwebWarning to all. The update to 6.10 made me crash. Use at your own risk03:48
Motorheadlol03:49
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Aji-Dahakaheh03:49
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slaviksomething crashed ...03:49
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worldjamis there a way to get windows fonts such as Arial and so on onto ubuntu?03:49
slavik!mstcorefonts03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mstcorefonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
nuts`whats the package for flash player for firefox?03:50
LjL!fonts > worldjam03:50
LjL!info msttcorefonts03:50
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ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB03:50
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LjL!flash > nuts`03:50
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MotorheadYAY, kates working, thnx aji!!03:51
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gubluntui have lost my virtual terminals03:51
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Motorheadcool03:51
aksnowmanrednaxel: sweet, work pretty nice?03:52
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zaehlasWell, how do I go about completely uninstalling the Wine I have now, and starting over from scratch?03:52
Aji-DahakaMotorhead glad it worked :)03:52
rednaxelaksnowman, yes... but some OpenGL games fail03:52
Motorhead:)03:52
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Allansproblems with pinter.printer does not detect drivers..03:53
mnguyenI using Edgy Eft... and I tried to install the nvidia drivers... I modified the xorg.conf... restarted... and now X wont start...03:53
aksnowmanhey, about 15 minutes ago, I was trying to install a bunch of stuff w/ the synaptic package manager, suddenly it stops connecting to about a dozen servers...03:53
mnguyenanybody else having problems with the nvidia driver?03:53
mnguyenim using the generic kernel03:53
slavikhmm03:54
Aji-DahakaI have teh problem where I have to reinstnall the nvidia drivers every boot03:54
aksnowmanouch!03:54
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slavikAji-Dahaka: eh? are you sure that the module is not being loaded?03:54
gubluntucan anyone help me get my vt's back?03:54
gubluntuctrl+alt+F1-F6 do nothing03:55
slavikgubluntu: good question, thanks for reminding me about it03:55
aksnowmanwhat'd you do to make them disappear?03:55
gubluntuthey just send me to a blacnk screen with a blinking cursor.. no login03:55
slavikgubluntu: looks like they were taken out in edgy03:55
Aji-Dahakaslavik quite sure it's not loadable03:55
Aji-Dahakasome error saying that I have conflicting versions, 7xxx and 8xxx, iirc03:55
slavikAji-Dahaka: drivers = modules = have to be loaded03:55
slavikhmm03:55
gubluntuim not running edgy03:55
slavikgubluntu: oh ...03:56
Aji-Dahakaso I just run the installer the once every couple weeks that I reboot03:56
Allansproblems with pinter.printer does not detect drivers..anyone?03:56
Aji-Dahakanot a big thing03:56
Aji-Dahakahttp://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/apcs03.html03:56
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Aji-Dahakathat doc looks promising for my installation issue :)03:56
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wylie348Hello All!03:56
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bingnet922swsrush: Yes, and in W2k the authentication dialog does read "Incorrect password or unknown username for:"03:57
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aksnowmandoes anyone know why over 80 packages that I was trying to install can't be downloaded? I just installed this computer yesterday and updated the list of available packages before I started...03:58
slavikaksnowman: what is the exact error? just that they can't be downloaded?03:59
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aksnowmanumm, one sec03:59
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aksnowmanW: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib+png2/imlib-base_1.9.14-16.2ubuntu4_all.deb03:59
aksnowman  404 Not Found03:59
aksnowmanfor each package03:59
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Motorheadis it beryl's fault if open gl programs don't work.... or its just my crappy computer????03:59
jerpremove the us.04:00
bingnet922Hi channel! I am trying to connect to ubuntu running samba under user level security. I can see guest OK shares, but I can't access [homes] . In WinXP and Win2k the authentication dialog simply reappears error04:00
JoshJberyl shouldn't affect your opengl, i don't think04:00
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slavikMotorhead: not beryl ... but the way it is set up04:00
JoshJtry it again with turning beryl off?04:00
Motorheadoh boy04:00
confuscoOKAY guys, holy @#%&. do you know about the Firefox "show passwords" "feature" ????????????????04:00
slavikMotorhead: do 'DISPLAY=:0 openglapp'04:00
jerpaksnowman, remove the US04:00
slavikconfusco: yes04:00
Motorheadok04:00
bhuddawhat is a program i can install that can monitor my cpu temp and change the fan speed?04:00
confuscoI just found out about it04:00
bingnet922WinXP does not show any error, but Win2k reads "Incorrect password or unknown username for:"04:00
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confuscoanybody sitting on your comp can view your firefox saved passwords, What the helL??? why did they do this04:01
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slavikconfusco: it's been there for a LONG time ... you can also set a master password for those passwords :)04:01
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Motorheadslavik: it says unkown command :(04:01
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confuscoslavik, the problem is they should make you set a master password by Default to view them04:01
MakemedieIs Edgy out yet?04:01
confuscoyes04:01
bhuddaYes04:01
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MakemedieI cant believe it.04:01
jerpbhudda, open synaptic and use the search thingy;  with temp as the filter04:01
MakemedieNo download links anywhere on Ubuntu's site :\04:01
confuscono?04:02
Makemedie6.10 is Dapper isnt it?04:02
openBackanyone know how to set up SB LiveDrives? I'm trying to get audio to my speakers from an input on Line2 LiveDrive, but all I get is hum04:02
slavikMotorhead: are you in same dir as the opengl app?04:02
slavikif so, do ./openglapp04:02
MotorheadXD04:02
Motorheadno04:02
Motorheadok04:02
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confusco!6.1004:02
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 6.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
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groutanyway to set all my fonts back to default?04:03
bz029DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THERE IS A FIX TO THE REMOTE CONTROL NOT SAVING THE PASSWORD IN EDGY?04:03
Makemediegod.04:03
confusco6.10 is edgy..04:03
Makemediestop typing in caps you idiot04:03
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Makemedieconfusco: sure? :\04:03
bz029accident04:03
confuscoANNOUNCED: Ubuntu 6.10, code named Edgy Eft, has been released with many ...04:03
aksnowman:/ I tried to update the package lists, got an error "Could not download all repository indexes"04:03
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Makemedielol.04:03
MakemedieI cant believe I missed that.04:03
Makemediethanks.04:03
Motorheadslavik: :(04:03
Motorheadwheres that folder :S04:04
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slavikMotorhead: what folder?04:04
slavik. ???04:04
fumonHey, nightmare of a problem here. I've used sound before with my second soundcard, audigy 2 ZS, right now... after doing the usual and installing edgy I've got no errors , the soundcard is perfectly recognized and the sound management looks good... I've got no sound at all. Tried with the built in as well and that didn't work either.04:04
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Motorheadopenglapp folder04:04
confuscoI honestly think Edgy could be a lot better..04:04
confuscoI think it needs a lot more GUI tools for simple things...04:04
groutanyway to set all my fonts back to default?04:04
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slavikopenglapp is the name of the app you are trying to run ... ie: it was an example :P04:04
Aji-Dahaka*nervous*04:05
MakemedieI only want Edgy for Beryl.04:05
MakemedieI remember trying to install beta Beryl on beta Edgy :P04:05
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Motorheadoh boy04:05
fumonAnyone? Help?04:05
MakemedieDidnt work :P04:05
MotorheadXD04:05
Aji-Dahakahope dpkg is alright with this debootstrapping / during runtime04:05
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tonyyarussoSo I installed the popcon package on a whim, but it's complaining about not being able to send e-mail externally - what do I need for that?04:05
Motorheadwell that don't work slavik :(04:05
confuscooh man I can't wait for Feisty though04:05
groutwhat is the default edgy font?04:06
confuscoSerif?04:06
jerpgrout, open the font manager in the sytem/prefs and go to town.  I think mine were all set to monospace as default04:06
stalefriesSomehow my system has been set to use en-uk, I want en-us. How do I fix this?04:06
confuscogrout: I think it's Serif..04:06
fumonAnyone?04:06
Motorheadslavik: its just when i open an opengl program.. it closes session (as if i pressed ctrl+alt+back) and take me to the log in window04:06
fumonAudio help?04:06
groutthanks guys04:06
slavikhmm ... dunno what to say04:07
Cat2firefox 2.0 seems to crash a lot with Edgy, or is it just me??04:07
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confuscoworks fine for me04:07
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rednaxelCat2, works fine here04:07
stalefriesme too04:07
confuscoread up the forums Cat2, there are probably people with a similar problem and solution04:07
Motorheadslavik: well, thanks anyways04:07
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groutthat didnt do it, theres some reason in term some letters colide with each other, i dont know if beryl is doing it or what04:07
confuscohm04:08
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confuscofumon04:08
fumonSi?04:08
confuscowhat's your problem?04:08
slavikMotorhead: it is the price you pay for wobbly windows :P04:08
Cat2yes, i did read the forums and some others have had the problem too, especially with Adblock installed04:08
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grouthow can i shut down beryl?04:08
stalefriesCat2: try adblock plus instead?04:08
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JoshJgrout: beryl-manager, change it back to metacity in the menu04:09
fumonI've got recognition of my audio card, I've done this in 3 previous versions of ubuntu.. and many other distros.. the card works, the speakers work... but I can't get sound. No errors either.04:09
Cat2and by "a lot," I mean once in a while, that's a relative term i guess04:09
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Cat2sorry, i meant Adblock +04:09
stalefriesoh04:09
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groutjoshj whats metacity?04:09
stalefriesCat2. could you try it without for a while, and see if that helps?04:09
JoshJthe default GNOME window manager04:10
JoshJif you're on KDE just switch it to that instead04:10
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stalefriesSomehow my system has been set to use en-uk, I want en-us. Can someone tell me how do I fix this?04:10
Cat2yes, i should i guess, thanks04:10
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kitchestalefries: you mean the keyboard or the language?04:11
stalefrieskitche; language. Translations, etc04:11
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kitchestalefries: dpkg-reconfigure locales you can try that04:12
jerphow do you refresh the gnome desktop?04:12
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pluma_Uhm... okay, I'm having a problem sharing a folder with samba. All works fine, but Windows prompts me for a username and password. My Linux account's data doesn't work, anonymous doesn't work and root doesn't work either.04:12
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stalefrieskitche: thanks, I'll try that04:13
confuscofumon, you DID check your sound properties?04:13
LjLpluma_: man smbpasswd, i think04:13
stalefriesjerp: just the desktop? killall nautilus04:13
fumonconfusco: you mean in preferences?04:13
cablesm102I've set up an anacron job to run sbackup, and it used to work fine. Now it doesn't work at all, even when I run anacron explicitly from the command line. The command it is supposed to run works fine, however. Can anyone help me fix this?04:13
confuscoyes04:13
fumonOf course.04:13
jerpstale, thanks04:13
stalefrieswelcome04:14
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confuscoI felt so stupid for not. I have 3 sound cards in my PC and didn't realize it didn't pick by default the one I wanted, haha04:14
fumonI've got full recognition of the soundcard... all the bells a whistles too... but it dosn't seem to want to output any sound at all.04:14
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fumonHahah04:14
stalefrieskitche: that didn't let me switch it04:14
confuscoso you have checked prefs?04:14
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cablesm102Can anybody help me troubleshoot/configure Anacron?04:15
fumonIt is recognising my soundcard, it says "Autigy 2 ZS".04:15
confuscoand made sure the volumes are unmuted in Volume Control04:15
stalefriesit just did "Generating locales..." and listed the en locales04:15
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fumonSelected in the volume control and everything.04:15
fumonYeah, it's unmuted.04:15
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confuscowell I'm no expert myself, can't help much more04:15
fumon*sigh* now I remember why I abandoned linux... 16 different distro installs... just one more that screwed up horribly.04:16
confusco:(04:16
confuscowhich distros?04:16
fumonI'm nearly a veteran at this point.04:16
pluma_It... panics...04:17
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varsendaggris there a way to run a script that will tick a radio button on a website every 15 minutes?04:17
njh621Ok, I need some help here, I had ubuntu installed, removed it, and for some reason, GRUB didn't uninstall04:17
pluma_Ah, running it as root works.04:17
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jvolkman-hfumon: have you tried alsamixer?04:18
njh621and so i can't go into windows normally04:18
stalefriesvarsendaggr, perhaps, but it sounds really complicated04:18
fumonGentoo 3 times, fedora, ubuntu, suse... think I tried mandrake...04:18
njh621and fixboot on windows didn't help04:18
stalefriesvarsendaggr, whatever for??04:18
fumonjvolkman-h, how do you mean?04:18
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varsendaggrto turn my wireless internet on and off04:18
stalefriesoh04:18
stalefriesvarsendaggr, why everey 15 minutes?04:18
stalefriesevery*04:19
varsendaggri am hardlined in but i want to switch it on and off every 10 minutes to screw with my neibors04:19
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varsendaggrmuhhh04:19
stalefriesahh04:19
stalefriesvery funny04:19
jvolkman-hfumon: alsamixer is a terminal application to mess with audio settings04:19
jvolkman-hfumon: have you tried it?04:19
stalefriesbut you should probably just do WEP or WPA and get em off04:19
fumonjvolkman-h, not as of yet, though I shall now. Thankyou for reminding me about it.04:19
stalefriesinstead of all that work04:19
varsendaggris there a wireless utility for gnome04:20
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monokromehey04:20
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varsendaggrstalefries, i just did that yesterday but i want to screw with them04:20
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stalefriesvarsendaggr, not for what you want to do04:20
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stalefrieshmm04:20
stalefriesvarsen, I wouldn't know how to do that04:20
monokromeAnyone here know where core dump files can be found? I'm working on an application, but I can't find the core dump i'm generating.04:20
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stalefriesmonokrome, your home dir?04:21
monokromestalefries: That's what I thought, but they arn't ther.e04:21
stalefrieshmm04:21
stalefriesthat's where I find random ones04:21
monokromehrm04:21
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stalefriestry your app's directory04:21
varsendaggrwell i'm out04:21
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kitchemonokrome: it might be where your runnign your app04:21
stalefriesbye04:21
monokromelooked there04:21
confuscothe core took a dump04:21
stalefriessomewhere in /tmp?04:21
jvolkman-hfumon, from a simple google search, it looks like there's a common issue with your card and the digital output being enabled -- turning it off should fix your problem04:21
fumonjvolkman-h, I have done that...04:22
fumonjvolkman-h, it was the first thing I noticed.04:22
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jvolkman-hstill no sound?04:22
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fumonjvolkman-h, wait! Miraculosly, toggleing it about 8 times in a row in frustration produced a different result...04:23
stalefriesvarsendaggr, a wireless utility for gnome is NetworkManager, but not for your pranking idea04:23
fumonI now have sound! Hura!04:23
stalefriesHURRAH!04:23
jvolkman-hheh04:23
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fumonNow to get the ati drivers working <dread>04:23
jvolkman-hugh04:23
stalefriesNow you can enjoy the Ubuntu drumbeat!04:23
jvolkman-hati drivers suck04:23
stalefriesindeed04:23
fumonYes.... yes they do.04:23
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monokromeIt's not in any of those place :/04:23
monokromeI thought it'd be in /var/crash04:23
stalefriesmonkrome: bah04:23
JoshJSo, here's my question- Adblock on firefox, how do I block a flash ad?04:23
stalefriesgood idea04:23
KsileboCan anyone send me their /etc/init.d/apache file?04:24
JoshJright click on the ad gives me the *flash* rightclick menu04:24
monokromebut it's not04:24
jerpstale, I thought those were fingers snapping04:24
fumonBut I've done it on last years crap version of gentoo and two of this year's...04:24
JoshJdoesn't give me the adblock menu04:24
stalefriesJoshJ: flashblock? or click the little tab that says adblock?04:24
fumonAs well as 3 of ubuntu...04:24
jvolkman-hinstalling them is not hard04:24
JoshJi don't have a tab that says adblock on it :(04:24
fumonTook me 3 days each time :P04:24
jvolkman-hthey just suck in general04:24
stalefriesjerp: you may be thinking of a different sound04:24
KsileboOr just how to get it back into ubuntu...04:24
fumonI've got a Radeon x1900XTX04:24
fumonAnd dual monitors...04:25
stalefriesJoshJ: does it say adblock at the bottom right of the window04:25
stalefries?04:25
JoshJno04:25
JoshJi'm on firefox 2.004:25
stalefriesthen you may not have adblock installed04:25
JoshJwell, really swiftfox but w/e04:25
stalefriesmake sure you do04:25
stalefriesTools>Addons04:25
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JoshJi have "adblock plus" installed04:25
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stalefriesah04:25
stalefrieswell04:25
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stalefriesis there an adblockplus button next to the stop/refresh buttons?04:26
JoshJno :\04:26
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jerpcome to think of it, the finger snaps could be a couple natives honing their fencing prowess with their spears04:26
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lapHi, someone for a question ?04:26
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stalefriesJoshJ, thhe original adblock is old and not developed anymore04:26
jerplap, nope04:26
stalefrieslol04:26
JoshJso i guess i'll use both?04:26
JoshJ;\04:26
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jerppeople who ask if they can ask a question should be shown the door04:27
stalefriesJoshJ: lookup the filterset g extension04:27
stalefriessave you a lot of trouble04:27
laphttp://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/ati ; http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide04:27
lap2 different link04:27
fumonAt least amarok works this time...04:27
lap2 way to install the same drivers04:27
lapwhy ?04:27
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JoshJnifty04:28
stalefrieslap: because we feel like confusing you. :)04:28
lapHaha.04:28
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lapAnd the 2nd reason ? ;)04:28
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stalefriesdunno04:28
stalefries!ati04:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:28
JoshJBecause "there's more than one way"04:28
JoshJ:P04:28
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stalefrieslap: use that^04:28
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herrerausmcwhat command to i type to check what kernel version i have?04:29
AhabI have a question about the software update dialog in edgy, since there seems to be a change.04:29
starsherrerausmc uname -r04:29
JoshJherrerausmc: uname04:29
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JoshJwell yeah04:29
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stalefriesAhab: what's up?04:29
Falstiushow can I change which volume gnome uses for the volume up and down?  It is changing the 'master' and I want it to change 'headphone'04:30
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stalefriesFalstius: right click the volume control; hit open volume control, have fun04:30
stalefries:)04:31
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fumonOh yeah, almost forgot: Thank you greatly 'o helpers of hapless ubuntu users!04:31
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stalefriesYour welcome, despite I did nothing :)04:31
fumonThanks for helping people not necessarily me, I know how insane it gets.04:31
stalefriesto think I only came to get help04:32
AhabNow there are it's divided into two sections, 'security updates' and 'distribution updates'.  My questions are, 1) why? and I can't seem to select any of the packages under the distro updates, does anyone know how to do that?04:32
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stalefriesAhab: no idea what that means04:32
stalefriestry Google04:32
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fumonNow... this time I'm going to try and get xgl working... wonder if it's possible to get it working in dual screen...04:32
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Falstiusstalefries: I know how to change it manually, but I want to use the volume control buttons on my laptop.04:33
bruenigstalefries, generally if you don't know, the accepted standard is that you don't respond. Not that you can't respond but if everyone who didn't know did what you did. The room would be hopelessly flooded04:33
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stalefriesbruenig, ok04:33
stalefriesFalstius: hmm04:33
bruenigstalefries, not intending to be rude or anything. I had to be told the same thing04:33
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bhuddaCan someone tell me what this error means? : glGo: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS6404:34
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stalefriesbruenig: I had pointed Ahab out to something he didn't want, I was just picking up where we left off04:34
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abarbacciahey - im using ubuntu edgy and whenever i want to type a '  or " i have to hit space after or else some weird character comes out -- how cna i fix that04:34
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bruenigbhudda, try sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.204:35
stalefriesbruenig: rather, I had offered to help before I knew the question: I got confused between 2 people04:35
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slavikI need the valgrind-dev library ...04:35
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bruenigstalefries, ah, I got you. I didn't realize that there had already been dialog. I thought that was his initial question. My fault.04:35
stalefriesabarbaccia: sounds like you have something turned on in keyboard prefs. Check System>Preferences>Keyboard04:36
klick_Hey all, can anyone help me get my blue tooth device recognized? when i run hcitool dev it shows nothing.  I have an intergrated device on my x41 tablet, im not even sure what the device is called04:36
stalefriesbruenig: it's all good, I should have been rebuked for that before anyway04:36
bruenig!bluetooth04:36
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup04:36
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bhuddabruening I did that, and it gives me the same mesage...04:36
jerpabarbaccia, fool around with your keyboard mapping in the system/prefs04:36
bruenigbhudda, did it install anything?04:36
slavik!valgrind04:36
bhuddabruening no, it says that I have the current version already04:36
ubotuvalgrind: A memory debugger and profiler. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 13766 kB, installed size 33412 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 powerpc)04:36
slavik!valgrind-dev04:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about valgrind-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
AhabIf anyone is curious to why I was having my problem: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/7011404:37
bruenigbhudda, are you on 64 bit?04:37
bhuddabruening Yes I am.04:37
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bhuddaerg04:38
bhuddabruenig04:38
bhuddalol04:38
stalefriesAhab: is that a bug report about it or what happened to you?04:38
Syco54645where can i find my bookmarks for firefox?04:38
Ahababout it: It was a packaging issues04:38
Syco54645like the actual files that is04:38
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klick_bruenig, i followed that, but i dont see my device listed when i /etc/init.d/bluetooth start04:38
stalefriesSyco54645: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/bookmarks.html04:38
bruenigSyco54645, ~/.mozilla/********.default/bookmarks.html04:38
stalefriesI think04:39
Syco54645ok04:39
Syco54645i will check there04:39
bruenigstalefries is right, I missed the firefox04:39
jerpsyco, save them somewhere you decide using the manager04:39
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bruenigklick_, I don't have any bluetooth devices. I just knew that !bluetooth existed04:39
jerpuse "Organize Bookmarks" there in the bookmarks menu in firefox04:39
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Syco54645ummm i have 2 different default forlders04:40
klick_ohh ok, well can anyone else help me get my x41 integrated bluetooth device to be recognised?04:40
stalefriesSyco54645: hmm. Check both04:40
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Syco54645stalefries: well crap, they both have the bookmarks file.  basically what i am supposed to do is write a program for class that will zip up the bookmarks then email them to myself.  i guess i will just email the entire .default folders zipped04:41
stalefriesSyco: check which one has your bookmarks04:42
Syco54645i could really care less if it does just the bookmarks, and i am sure that he doesnt give a "crap"(as he would put it) either04:42
bruenigSyco54645, open the bookmarks.html in firefox and see if it has your bookmarks04:42
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stalefriesopen it, and see if it has the ones you want04:42
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bruenigit would be really easy to write a bash script for that04:42
Syco54645stalefries and bruenig, he doesnt care that much, he just wants to teach the class that you can do all of this stuff using functions built into a language04:42
stalefriesthe whole .default folder is pretty big04:43
Syco54645bruenig: that is what i said i would do, but he absolutely hates perl, so i usually use perl just to get on him04:43
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stalefriesall your extensions, etc04:43
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Syco54645stalefries: that is true, i guess i will make it just send that one file then04:43
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bruenigyeah, at least clear the cache if you are going to do that, don't want to get caught with anything um, untoward04:44
Syco54645bruenig: eh i dont need to mail it to him, just hand him the source for it04:44
bruenigah04:44
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stalefriesthat's easier04:45
bhuddabruenig any idea what I should do?04:45
bruenigif you could just send the whole directory. You should have written a script that zips up all of / and sends it to you. That would be the same thing essentially04:45
bruenigbhudda, what are you trying to open. You obviously have the wrong libraries04:45
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Syco54645bruenig: this is a small thing compared to what else he had us do, i had to write a web server and implement cgi (at least a crappy form where you called the file.exe), servlets (again a crappy for) and jsp (again with a crappy form, but it had to work with the servlets implementation)... all of this needed to be done in java, and i dont know java at all, nor do i now.  it is done too04:46
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stalefrieswow04:46
Syco54645bruenig: i should do that, he would find that funny04:46
stalefrieswell done04:46
bhuddabruenig http://panda-igs.joyjoy.net/English/glgo/download.html this Go client...04:46
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khermans_oohh got Sun JVM to segfault!04:47
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stalefrieshey, now that it's GPL you can go and fix it104:48
stalefries*it!04:48
khermans_wheres the source?04:48
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Lam_what do browseable, public, and available mean (samba)?04:48
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bruenigbhudda, I haven't too much experience hacking around 64 bit. Once I realized what a headache it could be, I switched to 32 bit. I assume you would need to get the 32 bit form of that dependency and then try to direct it to use that04:48
stalefrieskhermans_, dunno04:49
stalefrieskhermans_, I just know that it _is_ GPL04:49
bhuddahow do you direct it  bruenig? I think that is the last step I have04:49
bruenigbhudda, but if it has problems with that, it will probably have problems elsewhere too. The easiest way may be to wine the windows version04:49
khermans_stalefries, https://openjdk.dev.java.net/source/browse/openjdk/04:49
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stalefriesaha!04:49
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stalefriesIs there a way where I can block those so-and-so got on/off messages?04:51
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bruenigbhudda, I can't think of a way to do it from my limited knowledge of doing it without breaking other things. You could theoretically replace it with the 32 bit version of that libsdl or whatever it is called, but that would break other things that use it, so I can't think of a full proof way to do it. symlinks perhaps, but I would think that would pose the same problem04:51
KlickCan anyone here help me get my bluetooth device recognised via hcitool scan I have an integrated device in my intel x4104:51
sinisterguyhas anyone had any success with the ubuntu package for the candido gtk engine on edgy?04:51
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Jordan_UTo anyone that was helping me yesterday, I would like to say we actually found a backup of our NT4 server stable enough to run mySQL's migration tools, so hopefully they will be upgrading to debian instead of 2003 server :)04:51
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Peloway to go Jordan_U04:52
immrtlhow do i tell if a module was built into kernel or built as an LKM?04:53
Jordan_UPelo: Wasn't me, I am just trying to help on the migration end, I know nothing about NT4 :)04:53
ChadMCHey, does anyone know how to fix the garbled Virtual Terminals (tty's) problem?04:53
Jordan_UChadMC: I know something to try.04:53
bhuddablast, that sucks...04:53
ChadMCthanks. I've tried a few things04:53
bhuddaThanks for the help04:53
PeloJordan_U,  I don'T know any of that stuff either,  but way to stick it to M$04:53
stalefriesI need help setting my locale (translations, etc) to en-us, as opposed to en-uk04:54
energonhey know04:54
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Jordan_UChadMC: Edgy upsplash screwed up my tty's, disabling upsplash fixed it.04:54
energonnow*04:54
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energoni <3 windows for gaming04:54
energon=\04:54
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Pelostalefries,  system > admin > language support04:54
immrtlso does lsmod list only mods that have been built into kernel? or all modules loaded period?04:54
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ChadMCJordan_U: =( I've tried disabling that. (took off splash from grub/menu.lst and rebooted) it didn't fix the problem.04:54
Klickcan anyone here send me there hci.conf and rfcomm.conf file?04:55
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stalefriesPelo: thank you! So much!04:55
energonKlick: google.com parent directory hci.conf04:55
joeyk_ lsmod  program to show the status of modules in the Linux Kernel04:55
yangsupyang@super:~$ glxgears04:55
yangsuplibGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4604:55
energonKlick: google.com parent directory rfcomm.conf04:55
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joeyk_lsmod  is  a  trivial  program which nicely formats the contents of the04:56
joeyk_       /proc/modules, showing what kernel modules are currently loaded.04:56
yangsupmy vediocard is km400IGP04:56
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stalefriesPelo: I've set that before, but it's still en-uk. It doesn't seem to apply to pre-existing accounts04:56
Pelostalefries,  is the language available ?04:57
stalefriesyes04:57
stalefriesI've set it to en-us04:57
Pelohmmm04:57
Maltehi there ... can someone confirm that one server is down: de.archive.ubuntu.com (141.76.2.3)?04:57
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stalefriesMalte: checking now on my end04:58
Pelostalefries,  and if you reboot , it reverts to en-uk or does it stick to en-us ?04:58
stalefriesPelo: it hasn't changed yet, and it's been like this a while04:58
immrtljoeyk_: , nice of you, but u still haven't answered my ?, i know how to man lsmod =)04:58
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stalefriesMalte: I can open it04:58
bruenigMalte, it takes me to the index04:58
Maltemm ... kk ... workin that out then ...04:59
joeyk_well.. i think man lsmod answers your questions right on04:59
stalefriesMalte: but it's a tad slow04:59
Pelostalefries,   try searching the forum for changing language04:59
Malteokay ..04:59
Klickhey guys, my bluetooth config files got deleted, and synaptic erros out trying to reinstall the package.. any ideas how i can force it to reinstall?04:59
kitcheimmrtl: it onyl shows modules not the ones that are built into the kernel04:59
ChadMCAnyone else have any suggestions to fix garbled virtual terminals (tty's) ?04:59
stalefriesPelo: ok, I should've thought of that04:59
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stalefriesPelo: it's always what I suggest ;)04:59
PeloKlick, completely remove it and then intall it04:59
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immrtlkitche: thanks, how do i find out what is built in?04:59
Klickpelo it errors when i try to complelty remove it05:00
Peloklick, lovely05:00
kitcheimmrtl: the onyl way to know that is to look at the config file that was used to build the kernel really05:00
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macogwHey uh, when I right-click and "Connection Information" on network manager applet, it says Error displaying connection information:05:00
macogwCould not find some required resources (the glade file)!  Anyone know what that means/how to fix it?05:00
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Klick"E: bluemon:subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 105:00
Pupeno!mp305:01
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:01
Klickany clue what that means05:01
immrtlso installing edgy from livecd would have used the kernel.*.*-generic.conf file correct?05:01
kitcheimmrtl: it's usually named config-<version>05:01
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PeloKlick,  try finding the sourcecode for it and compile it manualy05:01
immrtlhrm05:02
PeloKlick,  opefully that should over-write it05:02
kitcheimmrtl: it might be in /boot05:02
stalefriesPelo: this comment helped: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1774211&postcount=205:02
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Pelostalefries,  goog going05:02
Pelogood going05:03
stalefriesPelo: it's "export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8", fyi05:03
immrtlah, found it, /boot/config-*.*-generic05:03
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Pelostalefries, my system is in canadian french,  and it is working ok , but thanks anyway05:04
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regeya_!edgy05:04
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download05:04
stalefriesPelo: right, just so you know what it was.05:04
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regeya_ubotu: no, edgy is the 'testing' release of Ubuntu05:04
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stalefriessomeone should revert what regeya did05:05
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stalefriesubotu: no, edgy is Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download05:06
stalefries!edgy05:06
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download05:06
kitcheregeya: it's the latest release05:06
stalefrieskitche, I just fixed it05:06
stalefriesfirst time ubotu-submitter :)05:06
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stalefriesalso, regeya, left05:07
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linuxfanstarhey05:10
linuxfanstardoes anyone know anything about ENVY05:10
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slavikOh man ... Beryl is awesome05:10
linuxfanstarsupposedly it will isntall nvidia drivers automatically05:10
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linuxfanstarberyl is awesome05:10
kitchelinuxfanstar: just install nvidia-glx05:10
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linuxfanstarya for some reason it wasnt working in edgy05:11
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linuxfanstarneither would the legacy one05:11
immrtlkitche: can u clarify one last thing? in my xorg.conf it says for my gfx card im using driver ati, but lsmod shows radeon and drm as the running mods05:11
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kitcheimmrtl: ati is a wrapper to the open source version of radeon drivers it picks the best driver for your card and drm is needed to run dri05:12
Lam_is it spelled officially as Xine or xine?05:12
kitche!xine|Lam_05:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:12
bruenig*nix generally prefers lowercase05:12
Lam_ok thanks05:13
linuxfanstari have an nvidia fx520005:13
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bruenigalthought Thunar for some reason refuses to be lowercase, arrogant file manager05:13
Bilangequickie: where can I change Ubnutu's language? For example: I currently have installed ubuntu in french, and want to see everything in engish instead. I suppose its in the init scripts, but where?05:13
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slavikI need the valgrind debugger dev package, is that just the source code?05:14
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yangsupg: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4605:14
stalefriesBilange: I just figured this out 2 minutes ago05:14
stalefriesBilange: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1774211&postcount=205:15
stalefriesthat should fix you up05:15
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stalefries!locale|stalefries05:15
ubotustalefries: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf05:15
Bilangeyeah, I was scrolling up05:15
Bilangethanks, sorry for the repeating :)05:15
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immrtlkitche: i want to install the closed proprietary ati drivers but it recommends uninstalling current ones, can i just keep the current ones but "disable" them05:16
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kitcheimmrtl: you installing from apt?05:17
immrtlno05:17
immrtlshould I?05:17
Evan_I'm running ubuntu live cd and i'm trying to mount my linux partition, can someone guide me?05:17
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stalefriesBilange, that should work, but also look at this:05:17
kitcheimmrtl: well when you change your xorg.conf to fglrx the other ones will be disabled05:17
stalefries!locale\Bilange05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about locale\Bilange - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
stalefries!locale|Bilange05:17
ubotuBilange: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf05:17
bruenigEvan_, open the terminal, and first make the directory that you intend to mount the partition in, mkdir whatever05:17
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Bilangeim already on this page :)05:18
immrtlEvan_: mount /dev/hda* /mnt/<mkdir beforehand>05:18
bruenigimmrtl, could be sda05:18
bruenigdoesn't necessary have to /mnt05:18
immrtlok but if hes having trouble doing this its obvious we dont need to get technical05:18
immrtlthx for the heads up tho05:19
bruenigimmrtl, if he is having trouble, your snippet will make no sense05:19
bruenigand if he had sda, it would especially be troublesome05:19
immrtl? k then05:19
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immrtlbut should i install the ati drivers from apt or just d/l them?05:21
bruenig!nv05:21
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:21
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immrtli've read it, im asking is it better to install the bin from ati site or use apt-get05:21
bruenigif they are the same, apt-get, if the sites is better then you have to weigh the benefits of having it installed with apt or having to maintain it manually05:22
immrtlshrug, thing is i dont know apt too well05:23
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Evan_thanks guys that was simple!05:23
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bruenigapt is more convenient than manual maintain, makes sure the whole system is coherent but whatever05:23
immrtli know the basic get commands and some options but barely scratched surface05:23
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immrtlalright ill try it, thx05:24
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Evan_how can i write to the mounted partition?05:28
AdamKilimpg321 has a mess up i think. on some mp3s it plays 00:00 to 00:30, restarts then plays seconds 00:00 to 00:35 seconds, restarts and plays 00:00 to 00:40, etc.           Is it supposed to only provide a preview? and if it is, why does it keep repeating, playing a little further into the song each time? it seems like if it's only supposed to preview, it would play the first 30 seconds once. Is there a way to make it play the whole thing?05:28
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ReWT_AxShow do i check to see who is all on the network im on05:29
ReWT_AxS?05:29
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ReWT_AxSin terminal05:29
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confuscowhat you mean05:30
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ReWT_AxSim on wired network05:30
ReWT_AxSi wanna know who all is on it right now05:30
joeyk_get an ip scanner05:30
ReWT_AxSno way to do it in terminal/05:30
ReWT_AxS?05:30
stalefriesreWT_AxS: just look at your router's webpage05:31
J-_is there a program that I can use like Guitar Pro for ubuntu?05:31
power-lthow can i check what driver my wireless card are using ?05:31
stalefriesno way to do it in the termina;05:31
ReWT_AxSk05:31
ReWT_AxSthanks05:31
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joeyk_hgahaha05:31
NineTeen67Cometwhelp .. I updated a bunch of stuff (gstreamer included) and now my sound is TU .. (sound blaster live card .. emu10k1) .. any Ideas on where to start looking?05:31
avital14Hey is there where one goes for ubuntu help?05:31
NineTeen67Cometavital14: this is the place .. or the forums ..05:31
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blacknineanyone alie in here?05:32
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avital14INineTeen67Comet: am trying to use my ATI card under the open source driver and i cannot get my resolution set off of 640X Freaking huge!05:32
NineTeen67Cometblacknine: think just us askers are in here ..05:32
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blackninewell i cant change my screen res in Kubuntu05:33
avital14I have tried editing the xorg,conf file and removing all but the 1280X102405:33
NineTeen67Cometavital14: If it is a new'er card you'll have to follow an install for a current ATI driver, if it's older (mine WAS a 9200se then you can use the ati or radion drivers ..05:33
avital14still no success05:34
NineTeen67Cometavital14: I'm not good at ati stuff (they aren't always too nice to Linux folk) ..05:34
avital14I have a 9250 pro PCI05:34
avital14and i tried the proprietary drivers.. and well my DVI doesn't work05:34
NineTeen67Cometavital14: then you should be okay with the old open source drivers .. lemme see if I can find the how-to on that ..05:35
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stalefries!ati05:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:35
avital14I'm about to get a new Card on Newegg and ebay this ATI pos....05:36
stalefrieswait, that won't help05:36
NineTeen67Cometavital14: this link is my stand handy dandy standby when I install a new Ubuntu ..http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy05:36
stalefriesgood05:36
AdamKiliin Nautilus, when I pause on a .mp3 file, mpg321 starts to play it, but on most of the .mp3s it skips and repeats like a scratched CD, but when i run mpg321 on the same file in the terminal, there's no problem at all. is there a way to fix this?05:36
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stalefriesavital14, go for nvidia if you want something fast that'll work with  linux05:36
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stalefriesAdamKili: it's only meant to do a preview in Nautilus05:36
confuscowhy's that?05:37
stalefriesso you can tell what the file is05:37
avital14yah05:37
stalefriesWow, I just closed firefox and regained HALF of my RAM05:37
avital14i'm gonna build a new system with some x-mas money... Nvidia is what i am looking at05:37
avital14so you have any suggestions?05:37
MicrosoftSpyAnyone got the latest Cedega ?05:38
stalefriesavitalia: nvidia's fine, beyond that I have no idea, I'm not a hardware man05:38
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AdamKilistalefries: is there a way to make it play the whole thing? sometimes it's a lot more intuitive to browse by folder playing a song here and there, without having to wait for Amarok or Rythmbox to load each time05:38
stalefriesAdamKili: no idea05:38
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stalefriesI would just forget it and load some mp3 player05:39
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stalefriesyou may try something like XMMS, it's a little more lightweight05:39
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Darokcould anyone help me figure out why my video doesnt start05:39
blackninewhere is xorg.conf?05:39
Shadow_milI have a cam, that supports video output, which connects to my  USB05:39
Evan_I mounted hda1 but I cannot write to it, help please :D05:39
DarokIm doing a bare installation05:39
Darokim on CLI05:39
stalefries/etc/X11/xorg.conf I think05:39
Shadow_milhow can I use that as my video input?05:39
JoshJthat's it, yes05:40
Darokran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but it doesnt start05:40
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Darokim running a 865G intel VGA chip05:40
cmwebCan anyone help me install java05:40
Darokwhats the equiv on the dpkg screen05:40
stalefries!java|cmweb05:40
ubotucmweb: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:40
Darok!intel05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
power-ltwhen i run wpa_supplicant -ira0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w i get "Operation not supported" ,what can be wrong ?05:41
Darok!86505:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 865 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
Darokmm05:41
cmweb!routers05:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about routers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:41
stalefriescmweb: why routers?05:41
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snidealmost midnight, ladies and gentlemen05:42
snidei love you linuxians05:42
snide:P05:42
JoshJit's GNU/linuxians >:[05:43
cmwebHu oh sorry, i need help on taht also but it dont got it05:43
snide:( sorry lol05:43
JoshJ:P05:43
stalefriesMidnight where? Europe?05:43
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snidei said almost.. in canada05:43
stalefriesoh05:44
snideontario - est time05:44
cmwebCan any one help me fix 'sun-java5-bin' is not available in any software channel05:44
stalefriesalmost 9 here. ONO!05:44
snidegmt - minus 5 hrs05:44
JoshJ!java05:44
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:44
stalefries!Multivers|cmweb05:44
cmwebIm their but05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Multivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
stalefries!Multiverse|cmweb05:44
ubotucmweb: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:44
joeyk_nmap is another good ap but its for more port scans05:44
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snowshoefox!debian05:44
ubotuDebian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship05:44
CorpseFeederI currently use something called "bonjour" to share printers on MacOS X with Windows computers on the network. Is it conceivable that I might be able to use bonjour in Ubuntu to share files between Ubuntu and MacOS X and Ubuntu and Windows?05:44
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snowshoefox!debian/rules05:44
cmwebok dont wear the bot down05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about debian/rules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
snowshoefoxwhere are the debian/rules located?05:44
cmweb!easysource05:45
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:45
snidei know that each distro is pretty different and has pros/cons but id like to hear ur perference .. which distro do you guys like the most?05:45
JoshJ...05:45
stalefriessnide: Ubuntu, duh! :)05:45
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JoshJif you want "real" answers to that ask in a "neutral" channel like ##linux05:45
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JoshJ(not sure they're "neutral" but well...)05:45
carpediemuh, you came to #ubuntu to ask us our distro of choice?  Nice poll tainting.05:45
snide:P lol05:45
Lam_!samba05:45
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:45
sagemassaheya #ubuntu05:46
stalefries!bonjour|CorpseFeeder05:46
joeyk_!ldap05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bonjour - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ldap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
stalefriesubotu, you have failed us!05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you have failed us! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
cmweb!edit source file05:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about edit source file - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:46
snowshoefoxthe Kernelbuild tutorial is not very comprehensive for ubuntu05:46
cmwebanyone05:46
sagemassa!swat05:46
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:46
cmweb?05:46
sagemassameh05:46
stalefriesubotu, you have failed us is I'm so sorry05:46
snowshoefox!kernel05:46
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild05:46
snidei was surprised to find that the ubuntu made printing / internet / etc worked without ever having me to dl the necessirly files, etc compile and install the other distros didnt auto like this one does05:47
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cmweb!wine05:47
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:47
stalefries!you have failed us05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you have failed us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
stalefrieshmm05:47
cmweb!hack05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
sagemassaomg bot spam05:47
snidelol05:47
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stalefriesubotu, "you have failed us" is "I'm so sorry"05:47
JoshJsnide: i was fairly amazed by how easy it was to "install" my HP Deskjet 284705:47
blackninei cant edit xorg.conf....05:47
cmwebHow do i edit the sources list05:47
stalefriesDon't I know it05:47
JoshJ*384705:47
snideyeah, my psc 2110 all in one worked just fine05:47
JoshJcmweb: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
stalefriesblacknine: you need root privileges for that05:47
blackninei have root05:47
snidebecause of the cup service, it somehow communicated with it just fine05:47
stalefries!sudo|blacknine05:48
ubotublacknine: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:48
snidewith um hpjs driver05:48
sagemassathen you can doo it blacknine05:48
JoshJthat said, my parents' lexmark... XJ73? (i think?) didn't work :(05:48
JoshJthe scanner did, printer wouldn't05:48
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stalefriesI think Epson and Lexmark are generally the worst on Linux05:48
snowshoefoxHow come the kernel docs are so sparse for Ubuntu?05:48
snideeehh, yea check the list of supported products under either cup or hpjs driver05:48
snidegoogle it05:48
sky123Has anyone used communigate? and set it all up on ubuntu?05:49
cmweb!ubuntu05:49
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome05:49
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stalefriessnowshoefox: Check the Faqs, Howtos, tips and tricks section on ubuntuforums.org It's pretty full with kernel howto's05:49
cmwebtryin to get definition05:49
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snowshoefoxk, i'll check it out stalefries, thx05:49
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stalefrieswelcome05:49
sagemassaanyone ever seen a box loose its inet static and pull a dhcp addy ?05:49
Shadow_milHey... how do I get my web cam to work?05:50
stalefries!webcam05:50
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:50
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snidehm the bot can be useful sometime05:50
stalefriesvery useful05:50
sagemassabut if i run a networking restart it re-establishes static?05:50
Evan_!mount05:50
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks05:50
gmitchel!stupid freakin AC97 sound05:50
stalefriesI didn't even know it knew about webcam05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stupid freakin AC97 sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
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snidelol05:50
Zububwa!wireless router05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireless router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:51
stalefriesgmitchel; ubotu is not omnipotent05:51
snide!wireless05:51
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:51
blackninei still cant seem to edit the xorg.conf file....it says i dont have privliages, while i do05:51
gmitcheli realize this05:51
sagemassablacknine are you acting as su now?05:51
snideblacknine u gotta type in your root password05:51
cmwebYAY, its installing java05:51
snidethe one you created during installation05:51
stalefriesblacknine: try sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:51
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stalefriescmweb, congrats05:51
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cmwebljl, are you on05:52
gmitcheldoes anyone have the atiixp sound drivers sucessfully working in Dapper?05:52
blackninegedit?05:52
cmwebstalefries, :D05:52
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stalefriesblacknine: text editor for gnome05:52
cmwebgmitchel mine camo on the platform installed05:52
stalefriesyou could also use nano05:52
stalefrieswhich is command-line based05:52
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blacknineoh, im using kde(nubuntu), that channel is slower with people so i figure ill ask here05:53
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=== cmweb Gives every one a pinch of you know what
gmitchelcmweb: did you have to do anything special to get sound working? mine seems to have the drivers installed correctly but I can't get it to play any sound05:53
Shadow_milstalefries: ok my web cam is weird.  Its a digital cam that can output video05:53
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sky123Anyone using CommunigatePro?05:54
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stalefriesgmitchel: that sounds like a ad case of muted sound to me :)05:54
cmwebgmitchel, mine were working on the live disk, i did nothing to them they just work05:54
stalefriesShadow_mil: I have no idea about webcams05:54
gmitchelcmweb: haha, i only wish05:54
stalefriesShadow_mil: never used one ever05:54
gmitchelcmweb: tried alsamixer like a thousand times05:55
docgnomeis anyone else having problems with ipkungfu on edgy? After installing it it spits back a bunch of error messages. the first two are nearly the same.... "/usr/sbin/ipkungfu: 6: source: not found"05:55
Evan_I cannot write to my linux partition, ahhhhh05:55
Shadow_milstalefries: I can choose from NTSC or PAL output05:55
cmwebalthogh, you chould chek the hardware05:55
cmwebim using Rythmbox05:55
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mlotsWhy does sound work under 2.4 and not 2.6? The sound modules apear to load. What should I be looking for? alsaplayer doesn't run, dsp seems to be missing, udev is installed...05:55
gmitchelcmweb: do you know what chipset your sound has?05:56
stalefriesShadow_mil: once again, I have no idea. I would suggeset googling your webcam's model + ubuntu or linux05:56
bigfuzzyjesusso05:56
docgnomethe file it is trying to source at that line is /etc/ipkungfu/pre.conf which is there...05:56
stalefriesdocgnome: have you checked line 6?05:56
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docgnomestalefries: aye. it is the end of an if statement which after the conditional, is doing 'source /etc/ipkungfu/pre.conf'05:57
jediljcan someone tell me how to intall a downloaded program05:57
docgnomesans quotes05:57
cmwebOML i thought we were taalking about ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller05:57
jedilji'm new and don't know what i'm doing05:58
cmwebdo this05:58
ubdhow can i upgrade to 6.10 desktop from dapper server?05:58
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cmwebin ubuntu go to system05:58
stalefriesdocgnome; no idea at this point05:58
snowshoefoxwow, kernel compilng now is so automated05:58
cmwebadministration->devicemanager05:58
stalefries!install05:58
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues05:58
jediljokay05:58
stalefriesoh, wrong one05:58
gmitchelcmweb: that's the proper southbridge and audiocontroller, just wondering if the chip was a realtek 650 or 850 or what05:58
confusco!programs05:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about programs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:58
snowshoefoxno more .swp files from viming in every directory to modify configs05:58
confuscojediji, what do you want to do?05:58
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sky123docgnome: i think there maybe still an ipkungfu irc room..the guy that wrote it...is usually just hanging out05:58
Snakeis there some way for me to control the volume levels of gnome-volume through a shell script?05:58
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jediljinstall souldseek05:59
jediljsoulseek05:59
stalefriesubd: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'05:59
cmwebyeah its a realtech05:59
ubd^^05:59
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gmitchelcmweb: i have a 650 working on an old maching, but the 850 is the one having issues05:59
Snakeanyone?05:59
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=== stalefries has got to go to bed now.
cmwebdid you download the aproperate driver.06:00
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snidehey guys how do i install a different linux environment (right now i have two ; kde and gnome but i remember theres one  more06:00
snideright now im under kde enivornment06:00
confuscosoulseek might be a problem06:00
Snakesnide, another is xfce06:00
gmitchelcmweb: got the new motherboard cuz the old one was so easy to get going and they were very similar...06:00
ubdstalefries: how can i -only- install xserver + gnome06:00
Snakesnide, or fluxbox06:00
gmitchelcmweb: yeah, tried installing from realtek's site06:01
Snakesnide, just sudo apt-get install xfce4 for example06:01
Snakeis there some way for me to control the volume levels of gnome-volume through a shell script?06:01
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ubdsnake: how can i -only- install xserver + gnome on server06:01
cmwebIs yours aa motherboard built in?06:01
Evan_no one wants to help me with my mounting problem, my life hangs in the balance!06:01
cmwebthats whaat mine is, by realtech but on the board06:01
Snakeubd, do a server install, then sudo apt-get install gnome-core06:02
Snakeif i remeber right06:02
ubdgnome-core will req. x11 right?06:02
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gmitchelcmweb: yeah, onboard06:02
Snakeubd, mhm06:02
cmwebThen it should detect, are you on 6.0606:03
ubdmhm?06:03
Snakeubd, correct06:03
cmweb(ubuntu version)06:03
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gmitchelcmweb: yeah, and it detects it... just won't give me any audio... sounds like the old mute problem but i assure you, it's not06:03
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jcruzlaraHi is there anyone here that could help me with a monitor problem please.06:04
cmwebUse rythmbox06:04
cmwebmine work on rythm box06:04
ubddo i have update manager in dapper server?06:04
gmitchelcmweb: ill give it a try06:04
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cmwebRythmbox Music Player06:05
slavikubd: 'which update-manager'06:05
jcruzlaraAnyone?06:05
snidethanks snake but what is the sudo command word?06:05
slavik!ask | jcruzlara06:05
ubotujcruzlara: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:05
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snide!sudo06:06
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:06
snideoo :P06:06
Snakeubotu, sudo > snide06:06
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ubdslavik: gksu command06:06
cmweb!laanguage06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laanguage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
Chico_mecanicohi06:06
snide!language06:06
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:06
slavikubd: you mean gksudo ...06:06
snidelol06:06
cmweb!language06:06
jcruzlaraOk sorry well Im trying to get my resolution to 1440x900 but everytime i chage it in xorg it keeps changing to a diffirent one.06:06
Snakeis there some way for me to control the volume levels of gnome-volume through a shell script?06:06
slavikjcruzlara: what video card and what drivers?06:07
b34nI installed Ubuntu in a virtual machine and the resolution is all messed up. what's the easiest way to reach the terminal from the main login screen?06:07
Chico_mecanico!list06:07
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:07
slavikSnake: try 'man gnome-volume-manager'06:07
jcruzlaraugh its an integrated unicrhome card06:07
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slavikjcruzlara: does it support the resolution in windows?06:07
SurfnKidanyone get an 865G card to work succesfully at 1024 24bit on Ubuntu?06:08
landanhow do i boot to my installed ubuntu from the cd - load root=/dev/hdb1 ?06:08
jcruzlaraOh yea thought that would be the problem no it didn't.06:08
slavikSurfnKid: use the i810 driver06:08
b34nI mean...is there a keyboard shortcut to start the terminal ?06:08
jcruzlarashame i just got this awesome 19" monitor and I can't even use it.06:08
Snakeslavik, I have06:09
slavikjcruzlara: then I bet the chip doesn't support the resolution. sorry06:09
Snakeslavik, it doesnt mention control via CLI06:09
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Lam_[y/N]  on apt-get ==> --force-yes will override and select yes?06:09
cmwebHas anyone ever tyred Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004 on wine in ubuntu06:09
jcruzlaraOh well guess I'll just get a new graphics card. Thank you for your help.06:09
slavikwrong one :P06:09
SurfnKidslavik, the one included with ubuntu?06:09
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cmweb!warrenty06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about warrenty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
ubdhow to upgrade to 6.10 with only gnome, from dapper server06:10
cmweb!warranty06:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about warranty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:10
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cmweb6.10 kill my machine06:10
cmwebi got it and i could not dialup06:10
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slavikSnake: check out alsa-mixer06:11
Snakethis is messed up :'(06:11
ubd6.10 requires dsl dont you know that? :P06:11
ubdhow to upgrade to 6.10 with only gnome, from dapper server06:11
Snakeslavik, I diidddd I cant pass on flag commands to set the level though06:11
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slavikubd: you only want gnome from 6.10?06:11
cmwebubd, jeez them in not upgrading again, i had to reboot06:12
cmwebi meen06:12
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cmwebreformat thaats it06:12
luminousnerdanyone here do beryl?? :( I really want it to work06:12
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ubdi want the kernel etc too06:12
slavikluminousnerd: what card and what driver you have?>06:12
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slavikubd: you either upgrade everything or nothing, sorry, but that's how it has to be06:12
luminousnerdslavik: Nvidia 6600GT, nvidia driver06:12
ubdslavik how to upgrade to 6.10 server with only gnome, from dapper server06:13
jcruzlarawait but if my chipset doesn't support it doesn't it mean that it wouldn't be able to display any resolution above 1440x900?06:13
slavikubd: did you read my PM?06:13
ubdno i get no pm06:13
slavikjcruzlara: only that resolution, since it is not 4:3 or 5:406:13
ubdslavik: i wnt to upgrede to 610 server then install gnomecore06:14
slavikjcruzlara: for example, with vesa drivers, my laptop can only display 1024x768, but my display is 1280x768 ... once I installed fglrx, that resolution because available06:14
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jcruzlarabecause i can change it to 1600x1200 which is wide screen and higher06:14
slavikubd, why not dist-upgrade? is this a production amchine? or something you play around with at home?06:14
b34nI use gnome...where would my resolution settings be stored?06:14
cmwebAny one want to buy me dsl.... I wont run up the bill (as long as its fixed rate ;))06:14
slavikjcruzlara: then it doesn't support that particular resolution06:14
ubdslavik: i have to save bandwidth06:15
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jcruzlaraaaww06:15
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slavikcmweb: if verizon is in your area, they have very low rates06:15
slavikubd: can you download the edgy server CD? could use that as a repo06:15
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ubdi just dont want to install silly games and mail readrs and media players and codecs etc06:16
ubdhmm06:16
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digiqqhey guys, I was trying to install Java, but how come I get this msg: "Setting up sun-java5-bin (1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1) ...06:16
digiqqError: could not find libjava.so06:16
digiqqError: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment."06:16
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ubdslavik do you say, upgrade from cd or make clean install06:17
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=== ubd congratz cmweb
Snakeslavik, amixer.06:17
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luminousnerdslavik: can you help?06:17
slavikubd: upgrade from cd06:17
Snakeslavik, amixer set master <level here> (just for future info)06:18
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SnakeMaster06:18
Snakerather06:18
Snake(gotta cap it)06:18
slavikSnake: what do you need it for (curiosity)06:18
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slavikluminousnerd: what's the trouble?06:18
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slavikcmweb: what kind of grades do you get?06:18
Snakeslavik, nixbox as alarm clock. I got it set to be at 05% for me to go to sleep, then go to 90% for my waking alarm06:19
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Snakeslavik, then its quiet at night, and wakes me up in the morning06:19
luminousnerdslavik: well, I can run beryl-manager and it launches fine, but none of the effects actually happen..everything looks the same.  It was working fine for a while, but then stopped.06:19
slavikSnake: nice :)06:19
luminousnerdDidn't do anything afaik to make it stop06:19
slavikSnake: you have to post a how to somewhere :)06:19
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cmwebIm passing thats aall i care about im a freshman06:19
haxalityhi all06:19
Snakeslavik, its really simple actually, kalarm with a few commands in it06:19
haxalityI'm having an interesting problem with NetworkManager06:19
rleehi there06:19
slavikSnake: still, post a howto and pics ... or something06:19
haxalityI'm running it under fluxbox, and it works great06:19
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slavikluminousnerd: how do you start beryl?06:20
Snakeslavik, hehe ill think about it06:20
Snakenight all06:20
haxalitybut it errors when it tries to store WEP/WPA keys automatically06:20
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slavikwith beryl-manager?06:20
rleedoes anyone know the virtual machine for ubuntu?06:20
haxalityso I have to enter them every time06:20
haxalityis there any way to fix this?06:20
luminousnerdslavik: well I've tried both ways: command line and the shortcut I made for it, both are beryl-manager06:20
yakumohi anyone know how can i rename a database in mysql?06:20
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slavikluminousnerd: I dunno what to say ... try #beryl06:20
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slavikyakumo: I suggest looking through MySQL documentation (I have no idea)06:21
luminousnerdslavik: okay :/ thanks anyway06:21
gubluntucan someone please help me get back my virtual consoles06:21
yakumook thnks06:21
gubluntuctrl-alt-f1 sends me to just a flashing cursor with no login prompt06:21
haxality..anyone?06:21
rleehelo06:22
slavikgubluntu: pastebin your /etc/inittab06:22
slavik!pastebin | gubluntu06:22
ubotugubluntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:22
slavikhaxality: I wish I could help, but as it is, my wifi card doesn't even scan :(06:23
rleeanyone use ubuntu 6.01?06:23
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slavikrlee: no such version :P you mean 6.1006:24
cmwebrlee, wow thaats like old you should upgrade06:24
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slavikcmweb: rofl06:24
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slavikrlee: you were talking about a virtual machine ...06:24
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rleeslavik: yes06:25
gubluntuslavik, http://pastebin.ca/25301506:25
cmwebslavik, youl pay06:25
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slavikrlee: you mean like VMware?06:25
raknamhi, i'm trying to unstall ubuntu server on a desktop, and i'm in the "low memory mode" even though i have 300 something megs of ram06:25
rleeslavik: does VMware run on ubuntu?06:25
raknamand i'm at the "load install components from CD stage"  but it won't let me go forward06:25
slavikrlee: yes, I have it running on dapper at work ...06:25
NineTeen67Cometaarg .. I accidently aptitude the newest nvidia driver only to find out my card is a NV15 / GeForce2 GTS/PRO and needed the nvidia-glx-legacy driver .. so I removed nvidia-glx and installed nvidia-glx-legacy .. restarted the box, and saw the nvidia logo, but there is no glxinfo .. it say no GLX on 0:0 .. help?06:25
raknamAny ideas?06:26
slavikraknam: so you are trying to isntall ...06:26
rleeslavik:  i am using ubuntu 6.0106:26
slavikrlee: you are using 6.10 (switch the 1 and 0)06:26
raknam6.06 server06:26
landanhow do i boot off my ubuntu partition from the live cd? (what is the command when im in Boot Options)?!06:26
slavikand I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work ...06:26
raknamLAMP06:26
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cmwebrlee, please dont make me look like i know nothjing06:26
cmwebSLAVIC06:26
landanboot root=/dev/hdb1 ?06:27
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slaviklandan: from the GRUB screen?06:27
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landanno havent gone a grub screen06:27
cmwebslavik*06:27
landanfrom the cd06:27
slaviklandan: or when you are in the LiveCD environment06:27
gubluntuslavik, also, fyi, dont know if its related, when i poerdown or try to reboot it hangs right at the point of poweroff/restarting.. i.e. blinking cursors on blank screen just like if i try to switch into a vt06:27
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landanbooting off the live cd because windows is using my MBR06:27
rleeslavik: what os can we run on VMware in ubuntu?06:28
landanbut ubuntu is installed successfully on one of my partitions06:28
slaviklandan: right ... and you installed windows after ubuntu?06:28
gravesonwithout going into the background ,what does the output mean "Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table"06:28
snidehey im back again, im @ ubuntu server , dling a file called "ubuntu-6.10-alternate-amd64.iso" im hoping that it is the right OS for my computer because since I use AMD64 Athlon 3500, should I go ahead or .. ?06:28
slaviklandan: you need to reinstall GRUB to MBR, please search the wiki pages (I never done it)06:28
landanok06:28
snideright now im using a sorta of general or generic one but its making my computer seemingly choppy06:28
landanbut how do i boot to ubuntu so i CAN install grub?06:28
slaviksnide: uname -r and tell me what it says06:28
slaviklandan: you can use the LiveCD for that06:28
landanok06:29
landanhow?!06:29
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landanthats what im trying to do06:29
slaviklandan: search the wiki please ... I've never done it06:29
snide2.6.17-10-generic , slavik06:29
landansigh06:29
slaviksnide: uname -a then ...06:29
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snideLinux bluefire 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 18:45:35 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux, Slavik06:29
snidewhats the difference between i386 and i686 ?06:30
slavikgubluntu: the VTs are enabled ... try to boot into recovery mode, then do 'init 2' after you get a promt ...06:30
ubdtheres no ubuntu-minimal package in 6.10?!!!06:31
snideSlavik, well?06:31
slaviksnide: i386 is like the first pentium, i686 is the P4, Athlon type (extra x86 commands)06:31
alpha_charliei'm trying to install unbuntu 6.06 on a dell inspiron 2500 laptop and all i end up with is a blank screen. Anyone have any suggestions?06:31
snideoo06:31
slavikubd: should be ubuntu-core06:31
snidehm06:31
slaviksnide: should be fine06:31
snidealright so i should leave my current os alone?06:31
slaviksnide: not sure if you are running 32bit right now or 64bit ...06:31
cmwebHey whats the synch time for ubuntu in the easter time zone?06:31
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snideno need for me tore install?06:31
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cmwebi mean the site URL06:31
NineTeen67CometMy sound dies after my last upgrade and I see this error in my dmesg: . EMU10K1_Audigy: probe of 0000:00:0e.0 failed with error -5 .. Ideas?06:32
slaviksnide: if it's a server then I suggest not to unless you REALLY have to06:32
snidecheck the wiki site for my amd64 athlon, it says its 64bit architure based06:32
crimsunNineTeen67Comet: irq issues.06:32
snidenope, the computer im using is not a server06:32
snide;D06:32
crimsunNineTeen67Comet: check dmesg for additional clues06:32
slaviksnide: I know ... but you can run 32bit OS and everything on it :)06:32
snidereally?06:32
slavikcrimsun: :D06:32
slaviksnide: yes06:32
snidehm06:32
NineTeen67Cometcrimsun: thanks .. I'm scrolling around ..06:32
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slaviksnide: A64 can detect 32bit code and switch to 32bit mode ... the OS never knows the diff06:32
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snidedidnt know that, thought that a certain linux os gotta be pick up for a specific cpu / arcihture or whatever that is06:33
snideoo06:33
slaviksnide: somewhat06:33
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slaviksnide: a sun sparc is diff than an a64 architecture ...06:33
snideahh06:33
slavika64 = x86-64 = x86 32bit with 64bit extensions06:33
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alpha_charlieHello i'm trying to install unbuntu 6.06 on a dell inspiron 2500 laptop and all i end up with is a blank screen. Anyone have any suggestions?06:35
snideright now my os gets choppy every time i drag any application around  and right now if i try to change my login windows display, it wont come up and if i go under gnome eniivronment and try to remove/change apps .. says some packages are broken and i need to repair them. how i do that?06:35
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NineTeen67Comet PCI: Failed to allocate mem resource #6:10000@f8000000 for 0000:01:00.006:35
NineTeen67Comet crimsun this is another fail I see.. but PCI 1:00 is my agp slot .. (from what I can tell) .. is it maybe something in my BIOS I borked?06:35
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sully86I mounted a windows share but the directory comes up blank and it just shows me the free space and says permisson denied if i try to write to it.. any ideas what i did wrong?06:35
john64does anyone know of a script to rename files in a directory to be VFAT safe names?06:35
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slavikjohn64: no06:35
slavikjohn64: how are you at programming?06:35
john64fine, but its not something that i really have time to write06:36
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NineTeen67Cometbrb gonna dink w/my bios ..06:36
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slavikjohn64: well, gives you an opportunity to practice :)06:36
john64slavik: i also don't know the pattern for VFAT safe names06:36
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snideRight now I'd like to remove an entire of KDE enivronment and applications from my os, leaving only Gnome and Xfce on. But every time I go on gnome's add and remove apps, I try to remove any KDE related apps .. I end up getting an error message saying that some packages are broken and I need to repair them first before I can even remove them entirely.06:36
slavikjohn64: any printable alpha character and the starting can't be '.'06:36
snideHow do I repair the broken packages?06:37
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Heiroglyphicsanyone know how to use the chown for the account instead of the each file?06:37
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slaviksnide: open synaptic and then click filters and then broken packages, then remove them06:37
john64what do you mean heiroglyphics06:37
Maltequit06:37
slavikHeiroglyphics: huh?06:37
aseveremercyanyone installed mysql on ubuntu?06:37
Heiroglyphicsi need to do it in the terminal06:37
slavikHeiroglyphics: by definition chown acts on files/directories06:37
snideoo thanks slavik lol06:37
hajikican i install the Transmission bittorrent client in ubuntu?06:38
john64like "chmod user:group ./* -R06:38
snidealright ill be back, slavik06:38
john64???06:38
snideur extremely helpful, slavik06:38
snidethanks!06:38
slavikjohn64: yes06:38
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john64i meant, is that what he was asking ;)06:38
slavikjohn64: that's chown, not chmod06:38
Heiroglyphicsslavik:I need to do it on a login account, i need to change it from root to admin06:38
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john64what is it exactly?06:38
aseveremercyany mysql users out there?06:39
slavikHeiroglyphics: ok, entering dangerous waters, why do you want that?06:39
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aseveremercyanyone know what the debian package for mysql is?06:39
slavikHeiroglyphics: you want to have an account 'admin' instead of 'root'?06:39
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slavikaseveremercy: have you tried searching in synaptic?06:39
slavik!synaptic06:39
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:39
john64aservermercy: packages.debian.org are your friend too06:39
Heiroglyphicsslavik: I accidently changed admin to root06:39
Heiroglyphicsslavik: and I need to change it back06:39
carpediemhajiki: try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24467706:40
slavikHeiroglyphics: you mean the group or the user?06:40
john64you could run chmod admin:admin <path> -R06:40
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slavikjohn64: this is different, I think06:40
Heiroglyphicsslavik: I think i changed both but im pretty sure its the user06:40
hajikicarpediem: thanks06:40
slavikHeiroglyphics: hang on06:40
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aseveremercyslavik, yes i did -- but didn't find it06:40
Heiroglyphicsslavik:k06:40
raknamhi, i'm having trouble installing ubuntu server on an old desktop, can someone point me in the direction of a guide or how to on ubuntu wiki or forums or something?06:41
aseveremercyjohn64 -- i'll try that06:41
john64there is also packages.ubuntu.com for ubuntu stuff06:41
slavikraknam: get the alternate CD, that should work06:41
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slavikHeiroglyphics: can you open System -> Administration -> Users and Groups ?06:41
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Mauroxraknam: what problems do you have ??06:41
john64aservermercy: mysql-server06:41
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Heiroglyphicsslavik: i can't login, im doing it off the rescue terminal06:42
chino_ya estoy06:42
john64or mysql-client are metapackages to the client and server ones for Ubuntu06:42
aseveremercyo.k. here is my problem, after typing:06:42
Heiroglyphicsslavik: it was the only account06:42
aseveremercyapt-get install mysql-server06:42
slavikno user account?06:42
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Heiroglyphicsonly 106:42
robert_can I apt-get the intel C++ compiler?06:42
john64not likely06:42
slavikthere was a user and a root account06:42
aseveremercynow it wants the cdrom, but can't find it06:42
john64oh06:42
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aseveremercyMedia change: please insert the disc labeled06:43
aseveremercy 'Ubuntu-Server 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060807.1)'06:43
aseveremercyin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter06:43
Healotrobertj_: no, it;s proprietary...06:43
aseveremercybut the cd is in the drive06:43
BadKittyQuestion: I have the processor usage display on my menu bar, and it is displaying 100% ALOT of the time, even when there is nothing going on, or right on start up, why would it do this?06:43
john64just comment out the first few lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list06:43
Heiroglyphics2 account with root access06:43
john64i can show you mine if you like06:43
aseveremercyjohn64 -- my apt-sources?06:43
slavikaseveremercy: 'sudo mount /media/cdrom'06:43
john64sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list06:43
confuscoBadKitty did you try rebooting06:43
slavikHeiroglyphics: go into /etc and check who owns rc.d06:43
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raknamwell first it says that i don't have enough memory because the system requires at least 32 megs, i have 300+, and when i'm loading installer components it will download them and then go back to the same "load installer components" screen, then when i "go back" and go on the next step it says i don't have the correct network hardware drivers for the kernal06:43
aseveremercyslavik -- wait -- what am i telling it to mount with sudo mount /media/cdrom06:44
BadKittyconfusco: yep I restarted and it has been showing 100% usage most of this session06:44
aseveremercydon't i have to specify a device?06:44
slavikaseveremercy: to mount the cdrom06:44
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confuscoso Right after restart it is still at 100?06:44
aseveremercytbooher@stadion:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom06:44
aseveremercymount: No medium found06:44
slavikaseveremercy: no, mount will look into fstab for /media/cdrom entry06:44
john64aserveremercy: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/146506:44
BadKittyconfusco, after I opened the first program06:44
Heiroglyphicsslavik:there are only 2 users hidden root user and regular user06:44
aseveremercydev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       006:45
aseveremercy/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       006:45
robert_john64: was that to me? heh06:45
confusconot really sure06:45
john64the pastebin, no, but feel free to use it06:45
aseveremercyjohn64 -- i'll check it out06:45
BadKittyconfusco, but when I look in the system monitor it says only 65 is being used by processes06:45
slavikaseveremercy: then cdrom0 or cdrom1 ... oen of them should mount06:45
john64aserveremercy, that is a waste of time if you dont have the cd06:45
confusco65%?06:45
slavikHeiroglyphics: and you changed the hidden root user to admin?06:45
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BadKitty6%06:46
confuscooh06:46
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aseveremercyjohn64 -- i have the cd -- but it looks for /cdrom/ -- i have cdrom006:46
Heiroglyphicsslavik: no i changed the regular admin user to root06:46
john64oh06:46
confuscoI have had that happen, but it was fixed after restart06:46
aseveremercysynaptic doesn't know where to look!06:46
slavikHeiroglyphics: so you have 2 root users?06:46
john64mount /dev/hdc06:46
snideHey, I'm back.. under Gnome Environment.. right now I'm unable to right click button to bring up gnome background wallpaper change .. whats up with that?06:46
BadKittyI restated twice and same thing... do you think the menu display is wrong?06:46
john64aserveremercy mount /dev/hdc06:46
aseveremercytbooher@stadion:~$ mount /dev/hdc06:46
aseveremercymount: No medium found06:46
john64well sudo that06:47
Heiroglyphicsslavik:yeah and I need to change the non-hidden one to normal06:47
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john64$ file /dev/hdc06:47
confuscoUbuntu is still way buggy06:47
confuscoimo06:47
aseveremercytbooher@stadion:~$ sudo mount /dev/hdd06:47
aseveremercymount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only06:47
aseveremercyis that o.k.?06:47
slavikHeiroglyphics: are you on edgy?06:47
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Heiroglyphicsslavik:yeah06:48
BadKittyi'd agree06:48
bigfuzzyjesusconfusco, how so, it isnt buggy, xp is buggy06:48
slavikHeiroglyphics: are you in X?06:48
john64aserveremercy: the easiest way is to comment out the CDROM repositories in the sources.list file06:48
dead1ockyou tell me ;)06:48
snideGUYS how do I reinstall the utbuntu without having to use the CD to manually delete the linux hdas then create them again and reinstall everything?06:48
carpediemsnide: perhaps nautilus isn't running.  Try Places > Home Folder, which runs nautilus06:48
confusconot in my opinion06:48
aseveremercyjohn64 -- got it -- i'll try that06:48
slavikaseveremercy: yes, it's a CD-ROM ... duh :P06:48
john64if you run the command cat /etc/apt/sources.list > ~/Desktop/sources.list.txt06:48
Heiroglyphicsslvik:not too sure but mostlikely since i need to use grub to get into the rescue terminal06:48
john64then copy the file on your desktop into a pastebin then i can edit it for you if you like06:48
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slavikHeiroglyphics: you're in X if you are using GNOME/KDE/XFCE right now ...06:49
aseveremercyslavik -- well i know that -- i have two cd rom's (cd and dvd player) and i think that is giving me trouble -- but let me try john64's idea first06:49
snidealright. how do i reinstall the os again without having cd to reinstall?06:49
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Heiroglyphicsslavik:its gnome06:49
snideor without deleting the hdds?06:49
slavikHeiroglyphics: you did startx from the rescue terminal?06:49
Kleggashas anyone fixed the problem when alsa driver for realtech soundcards (mine is ALC883 accoeding to OSS) stops working after installing fglrx driver either from repos or ati.com? I had front and mic mixer + a couple more and now I only have 2.0 sound without mic with OSS instead of alsa because I use fglrx06:49
aseveremercyjohn64 -- how do i use pastebin06:50
Heiroglyphicsslavik:i don't know06:50
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slavikHeiroglyphics: are you running through recovery console right now?06:50
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john64open the file, copy the text, goto pastebin.mozilla.org, past it in the big box then click send06:50
slavikHeiroglyphics: or did you boot from the LiveCD?06:50
slavik!pastebin06:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:50
Heiroglyphicsslavik: running right now but i have to restart my computer to get into it06:50
carpediemsnide: why do you want to reinstall?  There's almost never a reason for that.06:51
slavikHeiroglyphics: ok, so you booted from your HD and selected the recovery console from GRUB?06:51
Heiroglyphicsslavik:yeah06:51
snideAlright sorry. Probably a old habit I picked up from Windows lol06:51
slavikHeiroglyphics: I am trying to figure out what type of environment you are in ...06:51
slavikHeiroglyphics: ok, good06:51
snidesolve a plm by reinstall LOL06:51
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carpediemsnide: right, bad habit.  What is wrong?06:51
aseveremercycool -- http://pastebin.mozilla.org/146606:51
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slavikHeiroglyphics: go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups06:52
ubdyes snide windows rock06:52
snideLemma type06:52
Heiroglyphicsslavik:ok06:52
slavikHeiroglyphics: in the list, you should see the two root users06:52
slaviktell me the groups for each one (select one and click properties)06:52
Heiroglyphicsslavik:how do i change one of them to regular?06:52
snideCarpediem, anywhere in desktop area I would rightclick the mouse to bring up background / wallpaper changer under gnome right? Well this time it isnt coming up .. just nothing.06:53
Heiroglyphicsk06:53
slavikactually, scratch the groups06:53
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Heiroglyphicsjust user?06:53
aseveremercyo.k. -- i have uncommented the line -- but i think i need to reinit synaptic -- how do i do that??06:53
slaviktell me their Home Directory (same part as the user lsit)06:53
carpediemsnide: as I said, nautilus probably crashed or something.  Run "Places > Home Folder"06:53
aseveremercyjohn64 -- did you see my pastebin06:53
slavikaseveremercy: just restart it06:53
aseveremercyslavik -- sorry -- how do i do that?06:53
john64http://pastebin.mozilla.org/146706:53
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snideokay i just did that. yay, now what?06:53
BadKittyIF MY resources in system monitor say my cpu is running at 100%, but processes only are at 6-8, what else could be eating at my cpu?06:54
aseveremercythanks -- john6406:54
snidethe problem is .. i rebooted third times .. same result.06:54
carpediemsnide: now try right clicking on the desktop06:54
slavikaseveremercy: close synaptic and open it again >.>06:54
john64np06:54
Heiroglyphicshome/yg06:54
snideoo06:54
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Heiroglyphicsroot06:54
aseveremercyoh -- slavik -- i am using commandline apt-get06:54
snidenothing.06:54
slavikHeiroglyphics: take a screenshot and paste in pastebin06:54
slavik!pastebin| Heiroglyphics06:54
ubotuHeiroglyphics: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)06:54
carpediemsnide: okay...let me think on it a sec.06:54
snidei left it running , the natilius file browser .. while right click the desktop area06:54
cwatsonBadKitty: Run top in a command line to see all the running processes06:54
snidealright06:54
john64aserveremercy: did it work?06:54
Heiroglyphicsslavik: i cant right now06:54
Heiroglyphicsslavik:i g2g06:54
slavikaseveremercy: in a diff terminal?06:54
carpediemsnide: do you see your desktop icons?06:55
slavikHeiroglyphics: k, wait06:55
Heiroglyphicsill figure it out later06:55
Heiroglyphicsk06:55
BadKittycwatson: can you explain that to me please?06:55
snidenope, i remember havintg two hdas (to windows xp and fat32 hdds)06:55
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snidebut now all icons areg one06:55
snidegone06:55
cwatsonBadKitty: open a terminal06:55
Heiroglyphicswaiting*06:55
BadKittygot it....06:55
aseveremercyoh -- wait -- i was modifying the sources file i copied onto the Desktop!!06:55
madman215i have a problem with ubuntu, when i boot the live cd and hit the install thing the screen goes bland except a flashing curser in the top left corner, a few messages go by and then the screen goes compleately blank and after a while the computer just stops doing everything, no cd spin or hard drive spin06:55
slavikHeiroglyphics: really, quick, the user that has a UserID of 0 is the hidden user, the other one is your regular admin user, also, when you change his username (login name) make sure his group matches the new name ...06:55
ubdBadKitty: open a terminal and write "top"06:55
carpediemsnide: perhaps nautilus is hung.  Open your terminal, and type "killall nautilus"06:55
john64that is fine06:55
cwatsonBadKitty: run top06:55
slavikmake it also match the home directory06:55
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slavikgot it?06:55
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pluma_If a harddrive makes a mechanical ticking noise and the computer freezes... and then it stops and the computer unfreezes... how long does the HDD survive?06:56
Heiroglyphicsok thanks06:56
cwatsonBadKitty: the one at the top of the list is the one eating all of your cpu06:56
john64run the command sudo cp ~/Desktop/sources.list.txt /etc/apt/sources.list06:56
haxality_hey, i'm having problems getting NetworkManager to save my WEP password to keyring06:56
madman215anyone care to help me out06:56
slavikpluma_: I'd be ordering a new one ...06:56
slavik!ask | madman21506:56
ubotumadman215: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:56
madman215i did06:56
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snideoops think it had something to uninstallation i done back on kde by accident06:56
snidei will brb06:56
carpediemslavik: he did ask his question06:56
ascpluma_: if you're lucky, long enough for you to copy any important files off.06:56
ubdpluma: 1245hours06:56
slavikahh, I see06:56
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slavikmadman215: bad news ... I have no idea :(06:57
cwatsonBadKitty: What do you see?06:57
BadKittyxorg06:57
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cwatsonBadKitty: How fast is your machine?06:57
pluma_asc: Well, it's still surviving. For days. The ticking is just getting more common.06:57
haxality_again.. just wondering if anyone knows why Network Manager won't save my WEP password06:57
aseveremercyjohn64 -- good -- looks like it is working!06:57
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pluma_And it's beginning to tick me off.06:57
jojoman02YAAY, today i completed 1 full year with ubuntu!!06:57
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gravesonwhat does the output mean "Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table" and how can i fix this06:57
pluma_I'd have replaced the drive already if it wasn't my Windows box's system drive. Re-installing Windows is HELL06:58
cwatsonsweet! jojoman06:58
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madman215how long should i wait before reposting my question?06:58
john64aserveremercy: awesome!06:58
BadKittyIt's an AMD 64-bit something, Gig-Ram06:58
haxality_pluma_: re-installing most operating systems is hell06:58
haxality_:P06:58
pluma_It's not as bad with Linux06:58
carpediemmadman215: I don't know your problem, but you might try dapper and see if it will install, then upgrade to edgy once you install it.  Of course it may not work with Dapper either.06:58
jojoman02madman215, wait around 3-5 min06:58
cwatsonBadKitty: is the cpu maxed out now?06:58
haxality_well, it's the same basic process.. you install the OS, then you install apps06:58
confuscoWinXP owns06:59
BadKittythat is what it says06:59
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aseveremercyo.k. while i have an expert's ear: john64 -- can you help me fix this problem:06:59
madman215ok thanks06:59
aseveremercyReading package lists... Done06:59
aseveremercyW: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371806:59
aseveremercyW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems06:59
carpediemmadman215: another thing...06:59
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pluma_WinXP is HELL06:59
wikityleri agree06:59
cwatsonBadKitty: what percentage is xorg using?06:59
sephironexactly06:59
madman215carpediem, ya?06:59
slavikpluma_: yes it is06:59
carpediemmadman215: did you run the consistency check on the CD to make sure its good?06:59
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BadKittybetween 10 and 2006:59
aseveremercy(apt-get update didn't help)06:59
slavik!ru06:59
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:59
confuscono it's not!06:59
haxality_maybe it's my linux noobyness, but ubuntu wasn't any better or worse than winXP for me, in terms of the installation06:59
wikitylerbut atm i'm not finding ubuntu any better06:59
pluma_If I could get WINE to run properly on my amd64, I wouldn't even NEED Windows.06:59
ascpluma_: I recommend that you not use it at all except to save your files.  You really, really, do not want to gamble with your files when a drive starts dying.  Trust me on this.06:59
madman215carpediem, ya but it does the same thing06:59
carpediemmadman215: a bad download, or a bad burn can cause these kinds of problems.07:00
cwatsonBadKitty: hmm, what makes you think that your cpu is maxed?07:00
slavikhaxality_: how many times did you have to reboot during installation and which one was easier to understand what is going on?07:00
confuscoWinXP ownzers joo07:00
pluma_asc: I have already backed up all the important file to another drive. It's just a PITA to use atm07:00
slavikhaxality_: :P07:00
BadKittyit says cpu usage is 100%07:00
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slavikmadman215: when booting up, select the option to check the CD07:00
carpediemmadman215: Honestly, I installed last week, and it hung the first time through, but went smooth the second time.07:00
cwatsonBadKitty: what says that?07:00
haxality_slavik: I didn't have to reboot for XP, the installer did it07:00
sephironcarpediem: me too07:00
haxality_slavik: I will concede that ubuntu made it abundantly clear what it was doing07:00
pluma_I don't want to get ownd by an OS, I want to USE it.07:00
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slavikhaxality_: there is the touchy issue of stuff working out of the box (most stuff for me)07:01
haxality_slavik: also, being able to use the internets while waiting for it to install was pretty awesome07:01
BadKittywell... top says 67% and 100% on the menu bar.07:01
slavikhaxality_: good argument against yourself :P07:01
haxality_I am an ex-hardcore windows user, so, heh07:01
BadKitty(system monitor)07:01
corevetteis there a vmware irc channel07:01
john64try #vmware07:01
haxality_slavik: when you say 'stuff working out of the box', what do you mean?07:02
ascpluma_: Okay then.  You might consider looking into using dd to copy the win partition to a new drive.07:02
haxality_like, the generic apps?07:02
slavikcorevette: try #vmware? although I doubt anyone is there besides you07:02
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confuscoI still say WinXP is way easier to use and get things working :(07:02
john64what is your question?07:02
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slavikhaxality_: all of my hardware (except video) works completely out of the box ...07:02
hansin321I just tried it (#vmware) and there are a bunch of people on it.07:02
haxality_meh, to get winXP beaten into submission and to get linux beaten into submission are basically equal in difficulty07:02
pipHello07:02
haxality_afaik, of course07:02
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aseveremercyjohn64 -- i need to fix: GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F120156012B8371807:02
haxality_it all comes with experience in one or the other07:02
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carpediemhardcore windows user?  I didn't know there was such a thing.  Can you be hardcore on something that is thrust upon you?  That's like being hardcore about the hair you have to pluck between your eyebrows.07:02
slavikscanner, mouse, keyboard, sound (2 sound cards), TV tuner (didn't set it up because of lazyness)07:02
john64ignore that07:03
aseveremercyhow do i update my key07:03
aseveremercy-- o.k. will ignore :)07:03
john64its a lot more effort than the payoff07:03
haxality_slavik: well, half of my hardware didn't work with edgy, so I ended up reinstalling 3-4 times. So.. obviously something hooked me07:03
cwatsonBadKitty: What does top report as the overall usage? (first entry in the 3rd line)07:03
sephironati radeon X1300 pro and ati radeon X700 EZ,which is better?07:03
slavikhaxality_: agreed ...07:03
haxality_hehe07:03
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slavikhaxality_: dapper wouldn't install on my system because of an SATA drive ...07:03
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BadKittycwatson:64.9%07:03
haxality_whoa, really?07:03
haxality_good thing this laptop is like 3 years old, then!07:03
slavikhaxality_: dapper doesn't/didn't have libata ...07:04
haxality_ahh.07:04
kingjereI added a remote server using the "connect to remote server" dialogue. How do I remove/edit it? It only shows in the "places" menu.07:04
slavikit hung at 50% through detecting drives07:04
pipI have a problem: I installed linux and windows on my harddisk ,but when I use ubuntu-6.06 live CD to reinstall ,the [installer ]  could not recognize the old linux partitions ?07:04
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haxality_on a related note, I've been thinking about installing ubuntu on my desktop07:04
carpediemedgy installed on a SATA II drive, and it wasn't even in IDE mode.  All hail Edgy.07:04
slavikpip: you should have a desktop icon07:04
haxality_but I have a lot of media on NTFS partitions that I'd like to share on the network07:04
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haxality_my question. how hard is it to convert a hard drive from NTFS to, say, FAT3207:05
slavikhaxality_: ntfs can be read ... you need ntfs-fuse for writing though07:05
haxality_hmmm07:05
slavikhaxality_: impossible07:05
haxality_thought so07:05
haxality_curse you NTFS!07:05
cwatsonBadKitty: Do you know what kind of graphics card you have?07:05
john64not with partition magic, but that is $$$$07:05
haxality_well, is the support for NTFS write in linux what it was the last time I tried to get it?07:05
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slavikhaxality_: want a kicker?07:05
haxality_heh07:05
haxality_sure07:05
BadKittycwatson: Yes it is an nvidia GeforceFX 660007:05
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BadKittyor maybe a 590007:05
corevetteis there a reason ubuntu can connect to the internet on win xp run ubuntu, but ubuntu won't connect by itself07:06
cwatsonslavik: is ntfs-fuse in the repositories? is it stable?07:06
haxality_I've been condemning MS more and more lately, so any ammo is fine by me07:06
haxality_:P07:06
cwatsonBadKitty: Have you installed the drivers?07:06
john64winxp being the host?07:06
slavikhaxality_: NTFS was released in 1993, ext3 in 2001. ext3 has journaling support, ntfs doesn't. Vista is not getting WinFS (which would have journaling support) and Microsoft wants to claim that Windows is cutting edge?07:06
carpediemyou could convert an ntfs partition, using ntfsresize to little-by-little move data to another partition, resize, move, resize, rinse repeat.07:06
djembeanyone have some advice on using wireless on an HP laptop?07:06
BadKittycwatson: Yes it is the nvidia beta driver, and I am running beryl07:06
haxality_hahaha that's awful07:06
haxality_NTFS is also super-duper proprietary, so it's impossible to read from ANY OS other than win2k/XP/vista07:07
pipslavik, what do you mean ?07:07
haxality_that's the most fun of all!07:07
slavikhaxality_: also, ext4 has been announced and is said to become stable in 6-8 months (maybe even in feisty?) and ext4 will have all the ntfs features not in ext3, but those features are not very widely used AFAIK07:07
slavikpip: in regards to what?07:07
djembei tried ndiswrapper but it won't work07:07
haxality_hrm07:07
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haxality_I'm tempted to just mount my NTFS partitions under the ubuntu liveCD and just leave it like that07:07
corevetteis there a reason ubuntu can connect to the internet on win xp run ubuntu, but ubuntu won't connect if its running by istelf07:07
haxality_heh, so much less work07:07
pipslavik, the desktop icon ? did you catch my problem ?07:07
cwatsonBadKitty: Ahhh! Thats may be whats eating your cpu. I found that once in a while the beryl-manager would use 100% of my cpu07:08
confuscowait, NTFS no journaling support? it does...07:08
slavikpip: the network place thing?07:08
slavikconfusco: show me your source ...07:08
haxality_no, no, he's right confusco07:08
haxality_that's why winFS was such a big deal07:08
carpediemdjembe: what do you mean ndiswrapper didn't work?  more specifically, at what point did you fail07:08
djembeanyone on using ndiswrapper, I have a broadcom 4306 chipset07:08
haxality_or at least that's what I thought07:08
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djembeI followed the instructions on several forum pages07:08
carpediemdjembe: on several desktops and laptops, yes07:08
slavikhaxality_: exactly, but Microsoft dumped the project and now everything from WinFS done so far will go into their database ...07:08
haxality_yeah07:09
haxality_hahaha07:09
kingjere I added a remote server using the "connect to remote server" dialogue. How do I remove/edit it? It only shows in the "places" menu.07:09
djembeI used "sudo rmmod bcm43xx"07:09
djembeand i blacklisted07:09
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carpediemdjembe: ah, okay07:09
djembethen ndiswrapper -i bcmlw5.inf07:09
haxality_well, on that note, I guess I'll go bludgeon my way through yet another winXP install07:09
carpediemdjembe: right07:09
haxality_sigh07:09
ascI thought that NTFS was journaling, and that WINFS was just a database on top of NTFS.  But I could be wrong.07:09
djembemodprobe ndiswrapper07:09
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BadKittybut it doesn't seem like it is going slow or anything, it just SAYS it is07:09
djembendiswrapper -m07:09
slavikWinFS calcelation was one of the things that really killed Vista (besides having to do loads of hardware upgrades).07:09
pipslavik, I want to reinstall my ubuntu,but when I use the CD of 6.06, when partition ,the installer can not recognize the old linux partitions ,why ?07:09
confuscoright from Wikipedia...07:09
confusco"and file system journaling."07:09
john64good night all07:09
confuscoNTFS07:09
confuscoNTFS=journaling07:09
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haxality_I stand severely corrected, confusco07:10
djembebut network still didn't work07:10
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pipslavik, I have double systems installed (linux+win)07:10
djembelsmod | grep ndis showed that the module was loaded07:10
carpediemdjembe: sure, you never did "modprobe ndiswrapper"07:10
slavikpip: no idea ...07:10
djembei did it07:10
djembemaybe i forgot to list07:10
djembebut i did do modprobe ndiswrapper07:10
confuscoand asc ... I think he's right about FS07:10
slavikahh, so it does have journaling ...07:10
cwatsonBadKitty: does the cpu usage reported by top ever conflict the usage reported by gnome-system-monitor?07:11
pipanybody who catch my problem ?07:11
BadKittycwatson- it seems like maybe it is loading itself more than once? But I wouldn't know how to check07:11
linux666hello07:11
slavikbut it still fragments like a mofo07:11
carpediemdjembe: okay, what does ndiswrapper -l  show?  Does it say "driver installed", or does it say "driver installed, hardware present"?07:11
confuscothat was the major thing over Fat3207:11
confuscothat it had journaling07:11
BadKittycwatson, yes by far it does07:11
djembe"driver installed, hardware present"07:11
djembewas one of the first things i checked07:11
snideOK, I have downloaded and installed nearly all Gnome based environment and apps related. I got terminal up and running but I still can't right click the desktop area and bring up wallpaper changer07:11
cwatsonBadKitty: what is loading itself more than once?07:11
linux666pip, no, what problem?07:11
carpediemdjembe: okay, and "iwconfig", does it show a device with wireless extensions?07:11
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djembeyes07:11
djembebut it cannot associate07:11
djembeand it cant list availabe networks07:12
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cwatsonBadKitty: could be that the system-monitor is lying07:12
piplinux666,  I want to reinstall my ubuntu,but when I use the CD of 6.06, when partition ,the installer can not recognize the old linux partitions ,why ?07:12
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BadKittycwatson: Well after a day of running beryl, I restarted and it was SOOOOOO slow, then I closed out of the beryl manager, and beryl was still running but it made it faster07:12
carpediemdjembe: is it wlan0 or ath0?07:12
djembewlan007:12
djembeit was eth107:12
BadKittycwatson: I am hoping it is just lying to me.. so that is possible then?07:12
snideSlavik07:12
linux666pip, delete those partitions and create new ones if you have backed up your data07:12
djembei changed all cases of eth1 in /etc/iftab, /etc/networks/interfaces to wlan007:12
carpediemdjembe: have you tried "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid"  where myessid is your essid?07:12
djembeyes i did07:12
slaviksnide: yes?07:13
djembeit gave no errors but immediately gave me the prompt07:13
cwatsonBadKitty: you can run "ps aux | grep beryl" to see how many are running07:13
linux666pip, why do you need to recognize them?07:13
djembeand no associating07:13
carpediemdjembe: and, does "iwconfig" show that essid for wlan0?07:13
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snideWell, I still can't seem to right-click and bring up wallpaper/background changer from the desktop area07:13
slaviksnide: hmm ... go to System -> Prefs -> Desktop background07:13
snidealright07:13
cwatsonBadKitty: you can also run "ps aux | grep -i xorg" to see how man xorg servers are started07:13
piplinux666, I need not to ?07:13
djembeit says "off/any"07:13
madman215there is definately suposed to be the standard stuff scrolling across the screen imediately after i hit install right?07:13
carpediemdjembe: hmmm07:13
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snideNo, I do know how to access taht .. Slavik but why am I having that kind of problem?07:14
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linux666pip, no, you dont need your old partitions to reinstall ubuntu, but you will lose everything, so back it up.07:14
slaviksnide: no idea ...07:14
snideOkay.07:14
carpediemdjembe: try running the "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid myessid", then type "dmesg |tail" and see if you see any errors.07:14
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cwatsonI would like to use iptables to route all incoming traffic to sub.domain.com to a machine on the internal network. Is there a name for this?07:14
BadKittylooked like mabye two entries??07:15
piplinux666, OK,I want to use to old linux partitions to install the new ubuntu. after I configure them and to format,the installer said "you do not have root partition",but I did set '/' partition07:15
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djembecarpediem: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready07:15
cwatsonBadKitty: for beryl?07:15
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BadKittycwatson: looked like one for xorg and two for beryl? I'm not positive, maybe beryl has 2 entries naturally though?07:15
carpediemdjembe: allright, try running "sudo ifdown wlan0" then, "sudo ifup wlan0"07:16
cwatsonBadKitty: you want to paste them?07:16
linux666pip, did you set one partition for booting?07:16
BadKittycwatson ( one says grep beryl, the other beryl --skip-gl-yield???07:16
piplinux666, I have double system installed, I do not want to lose windown partitions07:16
djembecarpediem: it is stuck on DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0...07:16
carpediemdjembe: you can cancel with CTRL-C07:16
piplinux666, yes,I set a "/boot"07:16
BadKitty1000      4736  0.5  3.5  69048 36392 ?        SL   21:01   0:24 beryl --skip-gl-yield07:17
BadKitty1000     29652  0.0  0.0   2800   752 pts/0    R+   22:14   0:00 grep beryl07:17
cwatsonBadKitty: thats fine, there is only one. the grep beryl is the command that you were running at the time07:17
djembei had tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart07:17
djembedid something similar07:17
linux666pip, have you tried the alternate installer?07:17
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carpediemdjembe: yeah, same thing07:17
linux666alternate cd07:17
piplinux666, the problem is that the installer told me "no root partition specified"07:17
BadKittycwatson: ok, yah maybe its just lying.. I'll be back in a bit thanks! AFK :-(07:17
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carpediemdjembe: okay, try setting the essid and see if dmesg shows the same error again07:17
piplinux666, which ?07:17
cwatsonBadKitty: sure07:17
djembecarpediem: yep same error07:18
linux666pip, you can get alternate  cd for any version. you can get it for 6.0607:18
carpediemdjembe: and nothing else relevant?  Sometimes the driver simply doesn't work with ndiswrapper, but you usually get more onery error messages than that.07:18
piplinux666, I dont know what alternate cd is07:18
cwatsonI would like to route all incoming traffic to sub.domain.com to a machine on the internal network. Does anyone know the name for this?07:19
linux666pip, try google for this "no root partition specified" ubuntu07:19
djembeok...IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver07:19
aseveremercyhey -- does anyone know what command i use to join a specific room?07:19
piplinux666, on my hand I got Drapper6.06 and Breezy5.1007:19
djembeISO 9660 Extensions: MS Joliet level 307:19
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carpediemdjembe: naw, those are unrelated.07:20
cwatson"/join #specific_room"07:20
djembeISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A07:20
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djembethats what i thought07:20
carpediemdjembe: hmm, okay, what's the .inf filename?07:20
djembehold on07:20
carpediemdjembe: ndiswrapper -l will say it07:21
djembewith just dmesg i get some stuff with ndiswrapper07:21
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aseveremercyah -- thanks07:21
carpediemdjembe: oh, okay07:21
djembewlan0: ethernet device ###### using DNIS driver bcmwl507:21
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djembewlan0 encryption modes supported: blah blah07:21
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djembeso it seems to be loading07:21
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carpediemdjembe: interesting, I set that exact driver up this weekend on another computer.07:22
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carpediemdjembe: is it an Edgy system?07:22
djembecarpediem: the file was bcmwl5.inf07:22
djembei downloaded directly from the HP site07:22
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djembei have used ndiswrapper before with no problems also on other PCs07:23
djembeyes it is edgy07:23
djembefresh install07:23
carpediemdjembe: hmm, I didn't run into problems.  It was the same driver, but for a PCI card in a desktop.07:23
djembedude hold on a sec07:23
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djembe<==== retarded07:25
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djembecarpediem: it was the wireless button07:25
carpediemdjembe: wrong driver?07:25
djembeno07:25
carpediemdjembe: ahhh07:25
djembethe thing was i tried the button before and it never worked07:25
djembei pressed it, the light came on07:26
carpediemdjembe: interesting07:26
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djembethanks for the help07:26
carpediemdjembe: np07:26
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djembelater...have a good day07:26
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Some_PersonIs the theme in Edgy any different from the theme in Dapper?07:26
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raknamwhat file server will provide the most user friend UI for a mac?07:26
carpediemSome_Person: yes07:26
carpediemSome_Person: certainly not radically different07:27
Some_PersonCan I download the new theme and throw it on my Daapper?07:27
raknamby what file server i mean what type of file server07:27
Some_PersonI don't care for Dapper'07:27
Some_Persons theme07:27
raknamie samba for windows07:27
carpediemSome_Person: probably, but I haven't the foggiest idea how.07:27
Some_PersonCan someone email it to me?07:28
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Some_PersonMy email is [screened-out, i'll tell you in pm] 07:29
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EvanCarrollanyone know how to init hibernate from the command line?07:30
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snoogieinit or hyphenated EvanCarroll?07:31
bigfuzzyjesusi know -h07:31
Some_Personwhy would you do that?07:31
bigfuzzyjesusbut thats to halt the system07:31
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snoogieEvanCarroll: look in /etc/acpi/07:31
snoogiethere has to be a script called hibernate.sh07:31
Some_Personi hate dapper's theme - especially the progress bar07:31
snoogieshould work07:31
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Some_Personit has verticle lines through it07:32
EvanCarrollsnoogie: so there is no bin that manages power standby modes?07:32
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EvanCarrollsnoogie: I've used /proc/acpi before07:32
dan14hello all07:32
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dan14has anyone had any luck setting up wireless in edgy?07:32
EvanCarrollsnoogie: Found it, thanks.07:32
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snoogieEvanCarroll: look at the shell script, I dont know what exactly manages the hibernation07:32
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carpediemSome_Person: there's hundreds of gnome themes.  In Synaptic, try searching for "gtk engine" and installing some of them.07:33
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Some_Personno internet in ubuntu07:34
Motorheadhi07:34
Some_Persondamn modem driver isnt free07:34
Some_Personit costs $2007:34
Motorheadconexant?07:34
Some_Personyup07:34
Motorheadfuck those07:34
Some_Personi wish someone would create a free alternative driver07:35
sargeantddan14: My Linksys WAP54PC card works in 6.10 Edgy07:35
Motorheadlol, theres a 14KB/s free version for that07:35
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Some_Personi know07:35
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Some_Personits not worth it07:35
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Some_Personi could pop in my old smartlink modem sometime07:36
snoogieSome_Person: DSL Modem driver?!07:36
yakumohello is there any program for ubuntu like IME on windows which allow me to have hiragana,katakana,kanji?07:36
Some_Persondialup07:36
snoogieSome_Person: dialup, hmmm07:37
DBOMotorhead, please lay off the swearing =)  family friendly and all that jazz07:37
Some_Personi hate that it isnt free07:37
MotorheadDBO: huh?07:37
aldinaldin@dapperson:~$ mysqladmin -h root@127.0.1.1 -u root -p password07:38
carpediemMotorhead: I think he's talking about the f-bomb you dropped a bit ago.07:38
aldinmysqladmin: connect to server at 'root@127.0.1.1' failed07:38
aldinerror: 'Unknown MySQL server host 'root@127.0.1.1' (1)'07:38
aldinanyone knows whats problem07:38
DBOMotorhead, what carpediem said =)07:38
Motorheadcarpediem: wtf07:38
Some_Personis there a free conexant modem driver by any chance>07:38
carpediemaldin: your host shouldn't have root@ in it.07:39
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Motorheadlol07:39
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aldincarpediem: i saw this command on ubuntuguide.org07:39
aldincarpediem: can u help me with this problem07:39
aldincarpediem:  what exactly should i do07:40
carpediemaldin: your host is "127.0.0.1" not "root@127.0.0.1"07:40
Some_Personis the ubuntu logo copyrighted?07:40
MotorheadDBO: sorry XD07:41
DBOMotorhead, just trying to let you know about the rules round here =)07:41
aldincarpediem: ?mysqladmin -h 127.0.1.1 -u root -p password this doesnt work too07:41
MotorheadDBO: ok =)07:41
aldinmysqladmin: connect to server at '127.0.1.1' failed07:41
aldinerror: 'Lost connection to MySQL server during query'07:41
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MadpilotSome_Person, trademarked, yes07:42
carpediemaldin: then its not running, try "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart"07:42
Some_Personbut not copyrighted?07:42
bitwiseshiftlefthey, can anyone here help me with an ethernet bridge?  i set it up per instructions on http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge, and i can use the web from that machine, but I can't see it from the network07:42
Some_PersonI need to know what copyright tag to use on Wikipedia for it07:42
aldinmysql     7185  0.1  6.5 118240 16284 pts/1    Sl   07:08   0:03 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock07:42
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MadpilotSome_Person, well, both.07:43
aldincarpediem: ? ist that it07:43
carpediemaldin: then you should be able to connect07:43
aldin???07:43
neocortexHi! Please, can someone help me: I have winmodem and sl-modem-daemon installed, which works fine, but after suspend & resume it isn't present anymore.07:43
aldinwhat should i do07:43
carpediemaldin: run the command you just ran before the one I gave you07:43
Some_PersonBut its GPL/GFLD/GNU stuff right?07:44
carpediemSome_Person: you mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Ubuntu_Logo.svg07:44
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Some_Personyes07:44
Some_Personand i'm uploading a smaller version with just the icon07:44
aldincarpediem: error: 'Unknown MySQL server host 'root@localhost' (1)'07:44
Some_Personand i need to now what tag to use07:44
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carpediemaldin: not that one07:45
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Some_PersonWould {{GPL}} work do you think?07:45
MadpilotSome_Person, there is an official Ubuntu Trademark Policy, just trying to find the URL for you07:45
aldincarpediem:  mysqladmin: connect to server at '127.0.1.1' failed07:45
MadpilotSome_Person, no, it's not GPL'd07:45
_3uG_quick question: what's the best wireless security/protocol currently available?07:45
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Some_Personwell, {{logo}} doesnt look right07:45
Some_Personis it?07:46
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MadpilotSome_Person, http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/07:46
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MadpilotSome_Person, also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official07:46
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carpediemaldin: then I don't know what to say.  The command I had you run should start mysql.07:47
carpediemaldin: unless it gave you errors.07:47
Some_Personso {{logo}} would work then07:47
carpediemaldin: or said failed.07:47
neocortexSorry, if I may ask again: does anybody has experience with winmodems and sl-modem-daemon?07:47
aldincarpediem: thanks in any case 4 helping07:47
sephironanyone here use dell pc?07:47
MadpilotSome_Person, I'm not familiar w/ Wikipedia's classifications, but 'logo' sounds like the right one07:47
carpediemsephiron: sure, but that doesn't mean much07:47
openixaldin: is mysql actually starting?07:48
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K^HoltzHi guys, whats the command to find the external IP of your computer?07:48
K^Holtzi know you can go to sites.. but i cant find a command to type07:48
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sephironif i bought a dell pc,is it hard to change its hardware later?07:48
barnetodhey any c programmers in here?07:48
carpediemK^Holtz: ifconfig will tell you07:48
barnetodseph i changed a bunch of hardware on my dell laptop07:49
sephironis it hard?07:49
Hellavatorwhat is the command to unpack a .tar.gz archive?07:49
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_3uG_tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz07:50
_3uG_(the v is optional, though)07:50
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K^Holtzcarpediem: that just tells the local ip07:50
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: i know a bit of c07:50
Hellavatorthanks07:50
sephironyou change it yourself?07:50
barnetodbit i need help with basic c07:50
carpediemK^Holtz: not really, but if you mean the IP beyond your lan, I just visit whatismyipaddress.com07:50
barnetodi did code for a program for school07:50
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: k07:50
barnetodbut getting a messed up result07:51
barnetodi have to input an integer 0-9 and have it display the word07:51
K^Holtzcarpediem: that is what i mean... but its there a command to find it?07:51
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: sure07:51
barnetodthen assume that atleast one person will type in a character07:51
barnetodand display an error message07:51
K^Holtzisnt*07:51
barnetodnow i have an error display on any number over 9 and under 007:51
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: ok.07:51
barnetodbut a character generates your number is two message07:51
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: huuuuh?07:52
carpediemK^Holtz: I've never heard of one.  Since that has to do with your router, very little to do with this computer itself, I doubt it.  you could cull it out of tracert07:52
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barnetodyep :)07:52
barnetodthats where i am confused07:52
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: no, i mean, your sentence doesn't parse07:52
barnetodoh07:52
barnetodwhen i type in a character 'a' it displays your number is two07:52
barnetodno matter which character i type in07:53
barnetodthat is not a number07:53
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bitwiseshiftleftsounds like a bug.  can't really help you without the source07:53
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barnetodwant the source?07:53
barnetodi have the source posted on cprogramming.com07:53
bitwiseshiftleftuh. sure, but don't paste it here, use one of those pastebot thingies07:53
barnetodif you would rather check that out07:53
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: ok, link me07:54
barnetodsee if this works07:54
barnetodhttp://cboard.cprogramming.com/showthread.php?t=8561607:54
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Hellavator_3uG_ how do I tell tar to extract it to /opt07:55
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: you need to check the result of scanf07:55
bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: if you don't send a character, it will fail07:55
barnetodhats the command to do that?07:56
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barnetodi was going to try ,%c07:56
barnetodbut it did nothing for me07:56
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bitwiseshiftleftbarnetod: the easiest way is to make an integer, and set it to the result of scanf, and check if it's zero07:57
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bitwiseshiftleftif it's 1, then the person entered a number (but it might be more than one digit), if not, they didn't07:57
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barnetodok07:57
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barnetodwe will see how this works :)08:00
bitwiseshiftleftanyone know how to set up a wireless bridge under ubuntu?  i've crawled through the online howtos, and by following them i can get almost exactly nothing working08:00
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ReWT_AxShow do i change permission of a folder?08:01
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: chmod08:02
CorpseFeederI'm trying to install something which needs OpenAL Audio Toolkit - I find libalut0 OpenAL Utility Toolkit in package manager - Is that the same thing?08:02
ReWT_AxSwhat option though08:02
bitwiseshiftlefthow do you want to change its permissions?08:02
ReWT_AxSsays it's read only08:02
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ReWT_AxSi want to be able to write to it08:02
ReWT_AxSand do what i want to it08:02
kathyhello I have a question about doing an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper... can I just add the CD to the sources list, delete all the http entries, do an update/dist-upgrade ... i want to avoid everything that's on the CD from downloading from the net.08:02
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carpediemkathy: when you insert the CD, it may ask you if you want to upgrade.08:03
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ReWT_AxSbitwiseshiftleft, ?08:04
ReWT_AxSi forget the # to use08:04
kathymaybe it's just me.. but i can't get that to work08:04
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: chmod u+w08:04
sky123ReWtAxS: the way the bits work are 4 - read 2 write and 1 execute and hence any combination of adding those sets permissions..so chmod 644 file...would give you rw(root),r(user),r(anyone).08:04
ReWT_AxSchmod 577 /file/name08:04
carpediemkathy: yeah, I don't think that it always works.08:04
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ReWT_AxSstill isnt working?08:05
CorpseFeederis OpenAL Utility Toolkit the same thing as OpenAL Audio Toolit, or is Audio Toolkit part of OPenAL Utility Toolkit?08:05
kathywill it screw up packages if i do things that way?08:05
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: what error are you getting08:05
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saik0If a dir has group rwx permissions and user foo is in the group it's owned by than why cant foo write to it?08:06
ReWT_AxSerror while copying to "/media/usbdisk/AUDIO"/ You do not have permissions to write to this folder.08:06
pwmarcottehello08:06
carpediemkathy: honestly, I don't know.  But, it shouldn't hurt to try.  Comment out the dapper entries, don't remove them.  You eventually need to change the word dapper to edgy in all your sources.list entries.08:07
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pwmarcottei have question08:07
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: who owns the folder?08:07
ReWT_AxSi dunno?08:07
bitwiseshiftleftpwmarcotte: ask it :-)08:07
ReWT_AxShowdo i check08:07
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: ls -l08:07
bitwiseshiftlefter08:07
bitwiseshiftleftls -ld08:07
ReWT_AxSdrwx------ 6 rewt rewt 16384 1969-12-31 18:0008:08
ReWT_AxSme08:08
ReWT_AxSim rewt08:08
ReWT_AxS?08:08
kathythanks carpediem08:08
pwmarcottei just installed edgy and for some reason my dvd drive is not being reading appropriately08:08
TLEobutu restricted08:08
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CryptoMoleHI ALL08:09
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ReWT_AxSbitwiseshiftleft, any ideas?08:09
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CryptoMoleWHATS NEW W/ UBUNTU08:10
TLE!restrcited | TLE08:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about restrcited - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:10
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: no idea08:10
ReWT_AxSarg08:10
ReWT_AxSanyone know?08:10
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: try creating a file there?  like with touch?08:11
pwmarcottethe thing is i installed edge off a fresh iso i burned.  but i have been trying to watch a dvd in any media player and i can not, this is probably more of a begginers error but the help would be appriciated08:11
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defrysk!resticted formats | pwmarcotte08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resticted formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
ReWT_AxShuh08:11
defrysk!restricted formats | pwmarcotte08:11
ubotupwmarcotte: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:11
carpediemhah, apparently restricted is a hard work08:12
defryskpfff08:12
carpediemerr word08:12
pwmarcottethank you, ill try there :)08:12
defryskcarpediem, very hard08:12
defrysk:s08:12
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defryskword is a hard work too yes08:12
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bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: like, touch /that/directory/somefile08:12
saik0If a dir has group rwx permissions and user foo is in the group it's owned by than why cant foo write to it?08:12
defrysk;p08:12
carpediemI know it08:12
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bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: does it have rwx permissions for owner?08:13
ReWT_AxSdrwx------ 6 rewt rewt 16384 1969-12-31 18:0008:13
ReWT_AxSi got this now08:13
ReWT_AxStouch: setting times of `AUDIO/': Read-only file system08:13
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: ah, that would be a problem08:13
saik0bitwiseshiftleft, yes08:13
ReWT_AxSho do i make it a read and write file syate,?08:13
bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: no idea then.08:14
ReWT_AxSsystem*08:14
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: remount -o rw /path/to/AUDIO08:14
bitwiseshiftlefter08:14
bitwiseshiftleftmount -o rw /path/to/AUDIO08:14
bitwiseshiftleftor maybe it has to be -o remount,rw i don't remember08:14
saik0bitwiseshiftleft, yea it's confusing the crap out of me08:15
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bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: can user foo get there?  and is the filesystem mounted rw?08:16
ReWT_AxSbitwiseshiftleft, I'm getting.......can i pm you?08:16
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: sure08:16
saik0bitwiseshiftleft it's 0775, and yea it's on an rw fs08:16
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muralihi to all08:17
bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: right, but does the parent dir have 440 set?08:17
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bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: (or is it 110? i can never remember these silly octal permissions)08:17
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: i'm not getting any pms from you, but that might just be because i don't understand irssi08:18
ReWT_AxSlol then y use it?08:18
saik0bitwiseshiftleft, the parent is 75508:18
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: because i'm lazy08:18
ReWT_AxShaha08:18
saik0(rwxr-xr-x)08:18
spook74Does anyone out there know if there is a fix for the inability of (k)ubuntu to shutdown the computer?  Since I upgraded from 6.4, it just hangs at the shutdown screen and does not shut off the box.08:18
bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: yeah, still no idea08:18
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pluma_What causes a harddrive to make ticking and clicking noises anyway? Read errors?08:19
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pluma_I mean, it's getting worse and freezing my Windows box a lot, so I'll buy a new drive soon, but still... what part is damaged?08:20
Healotbad disk surface, overheated disk, broken head...08:20
ReWT_AxScan someone plesase help me08:20
ReWT_AxS-.-08:20
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saik0bitwiseshiftleft, learned something new about shells....i had to start a new bash session after adding the user to the group08:21
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bitwiseshiftleftsaik0: ah.  that's new to me too08:22
kamuianyone know the name of that ide?  Code something08:22
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: can you just unmount AUDIO and then mount it again with -o rw?08:22
kamuibut not codeforge08:22
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kamuior maybe it is codeforge08:22
ReWT_AxSi wanna try mounting it  without the usb thing bc i have an sd reader08:22
ReWT_AxSi get this in dmesg08:23
ReWT_AxS[17786295.492000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 308:23
ReWT_AxShow do i mount it?08:23
KenSentMeHow do i run a command (like apt-get) in english for once, instead of my own language?08:23
Ekstremehiya all.08:23
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kamuino, Codeblocks!08:23
kamuinevermind08:23
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: type df to see where it's mounted08:23
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: then unmount it, and mount it again rw08:23
EkstremeHas anyone here managed to get TVTime to work with a Winfast DTV1000T DTV Tuner?08:24
spook74Does anyone out there know if there is a fix for the inability of (k)ubuntu to shutdown the computer?  Since I upgraded from 6.4, it just hangs at the shutdown screen and does not shut off the box.08:24
ReWT_AxSi dunno where to look in df08:24
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bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: look in the Filesystem column08:24
ReWT_AxSi dunno which one08:24
bitwiseshiftleftand while we're reposting questions: can anyone here help me with network bridging, or bridging at all for that matter?08:25
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bitwiseshiftlefter, by which i mean, wireless bridging, or bridging at all08:25
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: the one with the right name in "mounted on"08:25
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ReWT_AxSits never been mounted >.<08:25
ReWT_AxSstart over08:25
ReWT_AxSforget i said anything about it08:25
ReWT_AxSnow08:25
ReWT_AxSi put it in08:25
ReWT_AxSi check dmesg i get   [17786295.492000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 308:26
ReWT_AxSbut nothing else08:26
ReWT_AxSwhere do i mount it08:26
bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: no idea.  it doesn't, like, appear on your desktop or something?08:26
ReWT_AxSnope08:26
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bitwiseshiftleftReWT_AxS: well, i don't know how to fix sd card reader drivers... google for it or something08:27
lullabudReWT_AxS:  sometimes messages appear in /var/log/messages and not in dmesg08:28
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krautmoin08:28
EMKOwhat do i do after i get these 2 white squares on the screen? first time installing any linux :(08:28
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lullabudEMKO:  two white squares doesn't sound right.08:29
ReWT_AxSNov 20 01:25:14 ubuntu kernel: [17786511.876000]  tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 308:29
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ReWT_AxSwell wtf it worked in 6.0608:29
muralican u pls tell me how to change the mode of sudo?08:29
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lullabudReWT_AxS:  personally, i had a lot of things that worked in 6.06... which is why i'm not running 6.10 anymore.08:29
muralibecoz unfortunately i tried to change it for write mode08:30
lullabudmurali:  what do you mean?08:30
lullabudmurali:  if you're using sudo you should be able to do anything.08:30
muralinow im not able to su as sudo08:30
muralibecoz the file permission is changed08:30
rredd46.10 is not stable like dapper08:31
lullabudmurali:  what is the command you're issuing?08:31
ReWT_AxSso far edgy sucks08:31
TLEHey I was wondering about the totem-xine totem-gstreamer thing. Ubuntu comes with totem-gstreamer installed yet most places you look totem-xine is recommended as "the better" engine. What's the deal here ?08:31
ReWT_AxS1/2 my shit doesnt work anymore08:31
crimsunTLE: popular but misguided misconception08:31
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lullabudReWT_AxS:  sometimes upgrading to the latest means departing from the greatest.08:31
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Admiral_ChicagoReWT_AxS: language please08:32
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muralichmod 44008:32
EMKOso this wount work on my computer because after the 2 white squares it does nothing ?08:32
MadpilotEMKO, is this on the install CD, or the Live CD?08:32
muralinow when ever i tried to sudo su08:32
TLEcrimsun: really, ok I'm gonna try keeping gstreamer this time08:33
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Admiral_ChicagoEMKO: two white squares?08:33
muraliit says it shd be 66008:33
Madpilotmurali, no need for 'sudo su' - just use sudo...08:33
EMKOmy friend gave me the disc08:33
EMKOit says 6.0.6.1 LTS08:33
Admiral_Chicagoyes.08:33
muralimadpilot:ok08:33
muralii try08:33
Admiral_Chicagothat is a Dapper drake CD08:33
crimsunTLE: are the appropriate gstreamer0.10-plugins\* packages also installed?08:33
MadpilotEMKO, so you put the CD in, does it get to the first menu, with 'Run/install Ubuntu' at the top?08:34
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EMKOyes i pressed that08:34
TLEcrimsun: No not yet but it was looking at the multimedia page that ubotu told me about, I think it's on there08:34
MadpilotEMKO, further down that 1st menu, there's a "Check this CD" entry - run that08:34
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TLEcrimsun: I just thought it was wierd because even Easy Ubuntu offers to replace it08:35
EMKOok i will give that a try08:35
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EMKOso it could be a bad CD?08:37
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MadpilotEMKO, it could be, yes. Is it a pressed official CD, or a home-burned one?08:38
EMKOofficial CD08:38
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Admiral_ChicagoMadpilot: when you check the CD for errors does it do a checksum?08:39
MadpilotAdmiral_Chicago, it does some sort of checksum, yeah. I don't know all the technical details.08:39
Admiral_Chicagookay i thought it might just wasn't sure08:40
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zOrKall the broadcom wireless cards works with bcmwl5.inf ?08:40
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sky123z0rK: not necessarily no.08:41
zOrKhell08:41
sky123z0rK: I had one from Acer that i tried and it wouldnt work08:41
sky123Z0rK: I had to go searching for one.. and it worked for me08:42
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zOrKdid you tryr with two different acer wireless cards?08:42
zOrKtwo different models?08:42
sky123z0rK: well my laptop is a gateway..and this one worked08:42
sky123z0rk:  WL_T60H906(8.0.10.0,XP64_logo)08:43
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sky123z0rk: it was for my amd 64 laptop08:43
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DanaGargh.08:43
DanaGndiswrapper source package is missing the debian/control file.08:43
zOrKthere was a doc out there from a bug on broadcom wireless cards in ubuntu?08:43
zOrK? broadcom08:43
sky123z0rK: yes08:44
anilomkarhi all, can anyone tell me how to install gaim guification plugin?08:44
zOrKsky123  do you remember the url?08:44
DanaGMy ipw3945 won't do WPA in Linux, so I was pondering trying ndiswrapper.08:44
DanaGBut, I can't compile the ndiswrapper modules.08:44
sky123i remember that article...something about NOT using the bcm-fwcutter pacakge as it didnt always work on bcm4318 stuff08:44
barnetoddanag08:44
barnetodi got a great site for you08:44
barnetodhold on okay?08:44
sky123DanaG: did you try the stock ndiswrapper that comes with ubuntu or were you trying to compile from source08:45
DanaGI'm using a custom kernel.08:45
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sky123ahh.. i see08:45
barnetodyou load the supplicant yet?08:46
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sky123DanaG: you have the kernel-headers for the custom kernel ??08:46
DanaGYeah.08:46
zOrKanyone remember that webpage which had a doc about the bug on broadcom wireless cards and how to fix it?08:46
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DanaGThe debian/control file that's missing is the one in the modules/ndiswrapper dir.08:46
zOrKit was on wikiubuntu08:46
zOrKif i am right..08:46
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zOrKi cant find anything though.08:46
sky123z0rK: what in particular is broken ??08:46
zOrKi am programming a patch08:47
zOrKbut I can't find that doc!08:47
barnetodif i werent on windows i have the bookmarked saved08:47
barnetodfor the easy install guide of the pain in the ass card :)08:47
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barnetodtried this?08:47
barnetodin terminal /etc/init.d/wpasupplicant start08:48
barnetodsudo wpa_cli to see if it is working08:48
DanaGThere's only /etc/init.d/wpa-ifupdown08:48
DanaGno wpasupplicant.08:48
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sky123it is a pain... but.. finding the right one is the key08:48
seamus7Hi ... I had been having display problems after upgrading to Edgy ... but I just reconfigured xorg by going from 24 to 16 color depth ... but my screen resolutions are not what I'd like ... any help out there?08:48
sky123z0rK: does the thing just "flutter" or point blank not even come up08:49
Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: what's your card?08:49
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sky123bcm43xx...HEY BROADCOM...HOW about a linux driver that works!! ??08:49
barnetoddanag08:49
barnetodhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286188&page=2&highlight=intel+394508:49
barnetodtry that08:49
barnetodsky i havent even bothered with my broadcom08:50
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seamus7Admiral_Chicago: intel 82815 CGC08:50
sky123just pain in the ass.08:50
floatingsky123: ye I would like to use linux but I can't since I only have wlan and bc43xx08:50
barnetodi went through the boot up windows save websites to a jump drive and all tarballs lol08:50
Admiral_Chicagocan you paste you xorg08:50
barnetodrather than mess with finding a bc driver worth a crap08:50
Admiral_Chicagoxorg.conf08:50
djembedid you try ndiswrapper with the broadcom?08:50
floatingI tried08:50
sky123floating,z0rK: the post i made before with -  WL_T60H906(8.0.10.0,XP64_logo) works08:50
Admiral_Chicagoactually don't give me a second08:50
floatingtried with 3 different manager programs too08:50
seamus7Admiral_Chicago: where do I paste it in XChat?08:50
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shorthornswhat exactly is an ndiswrapper?08:51
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Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: no not yet, hold on08:51
sky123floating,z0rK: that is for some reason different than what is posted in the wiki..08:51
sky123floating,z0rK: maybe give that a whirl??08:51
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Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: taka a look at this link08:51
Admiral_Chicagohttp://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-upgrade-common-problems-with-solutions.html08:51
djembendiswrapper uses the windows drivers for the wireless card08:51
floatingwhere sky123 ?08:51
sky123ndiswrapper...uses windows inf file08:52
bobbie__4Howcome Ubuntu freezes on CD-ROM errors?08:52
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shorthornsdjembe, thnx08:52
barnetodi just loaded my drivers directly from intel08:52
seamus7Admiral_Chicago: ok thanks08:52
sky123floating:  WL_T60H906(8.0.10.0,XP64_logo)...see if you can find that on google..then download it...unzip it and use that inf file08:52
sky123for your bcm43xx08:52
floatingwith ndiswrapper I couldn't get a light on, but with this special native driver I got it on, everything seem to be good until dhcp should give me ip08:52
Admiral_Chicagoit may be the xserver-xorg if anything08:53
sky123floating:okay...that is where i used the networkmanager tool..that fixed all.08:53
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DanaGThe odd thing is that NetworkManager says 'timeout authenticating to 00:00:00:00:00:0008:53
floatingnetwork manager likes to hang the whole OS, wifi-radar and connection manager just won't give the ip08:53
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barnetodyou know whats sad08:53
barnetodit is easier to set up my card in linux than windows08:54
shorthornsCan anyone make a suggestion concerning a usb-dvb-stick(painless installing, using, etc...)?08:54
djembetry the command "iwconfig wlan0 essid your_network"08:54
lullabudbarnetod:  i don't understand at all how that's sad.08:54
lullabud:P08:54
barnetodlol lullabad :) windows is supposedly point and click08:54
barnetodhaha08:54
djembewhwere wlan0 is your network card08:54
djembemight be eth1 or something08:54
lullabudbarnetod:  hmm... i though that was mac.... ;-)08:54
floatingbut... do you think I shld look for or try another driver if I have got a driver that lights on the card, and can scan the APs and such (but just cant get ip) or is the problem elsewhere ?08:54
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RobNyc!beryl08:55
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl08:55
sky123floating:  okay...i had that happen with a linux driver bcm-fwcutter but when i switched back to the ndiswrapper and network manager...no issues.08:55
kamuiim having some trouble with the psp SDk.  I can use it fine at the console, but when I launch my codeblocks gui ide from the menu, the custom path I added tot he pspsdk tools isn't initialized, so the makefile files to build.  How to I add PATH statements globally to the system so that when I log in using GDM those path statements are executed/added?08:55
lullabudbarnetod:  seriously though, that's the power of open standards.  when people use them, they work so easily.08:55
barnetodlulla i have a bad experience with macs08:55
barnetodyep lulla08:55
lullabudbarnetod:  which is why IE has ruined web development.08:55
barnetodi forced my dad to make the switch08:55
floatingsky123, then I should try08:55
Admiral_Chicagobarnetod: couldn't right click?08:55
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barnetodhaha admiral hardly man08:55
sky123floating: try the one i posted earlier..08:55
barnetodit causes winsock errors left and right08:55
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barnetodfreezes all wireless printers08:56
peanutbhow do i tunnel vnc over ssh?08:56
sky123floating: and make sure you black list the bcm43xx08:56
barnetodthen i load up ubuntu and im good :)08:56
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floating64-bit driver ?08:56
sky123yes\08:56
lullabudpeanutb:  you can do it with -D to make a socks proxy, but more frequently -L 5900:remotevnchost:5900 is used.08:56
djembefloating: so you can connect to an AP?08:56
floatingyep I can08:56
djembejust no IP address?08:56
sky123floating: what laptop08:56
lullabudpeanutb:  i do that all the time from my mac...  =O !!!08:56
floatingdjembe yep08:56
kamuianyone?  How can I add to my sytemwide path variable to ensure that apps run inside of gnome can be run08:57
peanutblullabud, could you explain it less technically?08:57
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floatingjapanese sotec laptop with japanese only card I think08:57
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djembedid you try "sudo dhclient eth1" or whatever your wireless card ID is?08:57
qqqHello all, I am sitting here with my students (14years old) and show them irc. Could somebody please say hello so they see how it works.08:57
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sky123floating: might be the same.. card in mine..give it a try08:57
lullabudpeanutb:  say host C is accessible from host B, but not A08:57
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wickedpuppyhello qqq08:57
floatingI ve tried that, it just tries DHCPDISCOVER for few times and then no DHCPOFFERS received08:57
lullabudpeanutb:  from host A, you ssh -L 5900:ip.address.of.host.C:5900 user@host.B08:58
lullabudpeanutb:  then you VNC to your localhost, 127.0.0.108:58
qqqthx wickedpuppy08:58
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lullabudpeanutb:  this will actually connect you to host C.08:58
djembeand "iwconfig" says that you are connected to an AP?08:58
floatingyea08:58
peanutblullabud, how would i set this up then?08:58
lullabudpeanutb:  simply open VNC on host C and ssh on host B.08:58
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floatingare there some particular log files that might hive hints?08:58
peanutblullabud, ok i think i got it.08:58
floatingor any idea is welcome08:59
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lullabudfloating:  you can sniff dhcp traffic in a readable form with arpwatch08:59
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lullabudfloating:  i've also had more luck with `pump` than `dhclient`08:59
floatingpump, never heard of that.. hmm08:59
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lullabudpeanutb:  there are lots of articles out there about how to do ssh tunneling using both of the methods i described.  finding them is as easy as googling for "ssh tunnel" or "ssh -D" or "ssh -L"09:00
sky123hey guys...im working on a sparc box and when i try to boot the system up i get a "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" anyone know how to solve this??09:01
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carpediemfloating: does everything look good when you do "iwconfig"?09:01
floatingcarpediem: yep09:01
qqqkenn na uns help09:01
carpediemfloating: does it show the correct essid?09:01
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lullabudsky123:  sounds like your initrd might be pointing to the wrong partition?09:01
floatingI looked at /var/log/daemon.log  someone might figure something out there, but I didnt... it felt like it had problem with authentication09:01
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peanutblullabud, ok i connected via ssh but how do i start vnc?09:02
floatingcarpediem: yup09:02
lullabudpeanutb:  you launch VNC on the same host you did ssh from, your local machine.  then you connect to 127.0.0.109:02
floatingbut then again, few times there was a text about authentication complete09:02
carpediemfloating: it actually says the essid of your router? (not "none/any")?09:02
lullabudpeanutb:  you also have to have a vnc server running on host C.09:02
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floatingcarp yep09:02
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carpediemfloating: does "sudo dhclient wlan0" work?09:03
peanutblullabud, what command would i use in the ssh terminal09:03
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sky123lullabud: I figured this...the funny thing is that it appears to have hardware raid..I didnt realize this..and took out a drive and rebuilt the system..on one drive..im wondering how to resolve the initrd issue??09:03
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carpediemfloating: replace wlan0 with your device, of course.09:03
floatingit's on eth1, and it does not get dhcpoffer09:03
floating^^09:03
carpediemfloating: you don't have MAC address filtering stopping it or anything like that?09:03
lullabudpeanutb:  it's bed time.  http://www.google.com/search?q=vnc+tunnel+over+ssh+linux09:03
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lullabudsky123:  oooh man09:04
floatingummm, no. There is no mac filtering on ap09:04
sky123lullabud: quite honestly, im discovering how this sun ultra works...and why/how i would deal with drive failures..and still resolve it..09:04
sky123lullabud: its no big..it is a test box09:04
peanutblullabud, yah i just did that a second before you answered09:04
lullabudsky123:  i've been having a terrible problem with raid for the past few weeks... basically, my experience has been that ubuntu will sometimes recognize each disk in the array as an individual disk, and then the whole array as well.09:04
peanutblullabud, thanks09:04
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lullabudsky123:  so like, a 5 disk array will be sda through sdf.09:05
seamus7Admiral_Chicago: I didn't see anything pertinent there about screen resolutions ... I have an old Gateway EV700c monitor and configured xorg so that horizonatal was 60-70 and verical was 70-160 .... the back of my monitor says 50-60hz ...09:05
carpediemfloating: because you are associated with the AP at this point.  The AP is not giving you a DHCP response.  Usually this is the AP fault.09:05
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sky123lullabud: i see09:05
lullabudsky123:  sdf is the array, and sda through sde are the individual disks.09:05
lullabudsky123:  if you do cfdisk -P s on them you will see extra space left over on the physical disks, but 0 bytes left on the array... assuming you have partitioned 100% of the array.09:05
Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: that may bethe problem09:05
seamus7Admiral_Chicago: everything is working well now ... but I only 3 resolution options ... the largest being something like 1024 by something.09:05
floatingwhat might be wrong at aps end. the ap is at not my apartment, I might be able to ask for a configuration time with the owner09:05
floatingbut I hope I would knew little more before I go09:06
Admiral_Chicagoif you mess up the syncs, X will go nuts09:06
sky123lullabud: what i did was to simply pop in 1 of the 2 disks...and saw this weird problem during partition of not being to software raid mirror the partitions..so i was like okay....take out one disc...and rebuild..and screw the redundancy for now..only that now i get this strange message09:06
floatingbut there is another person with same problem with same wireless card with ubuntu09:06
lullabudsky123:  what you might be able to do is boot to the install disk, then rebuild the initrd with the proper raid drivers, and change /boot/grub/menu.lst to show hd(5,0) or whatever rather than hd(0,0)09:06
Admiral_Chicagoi did that once09:06
lullabudsky123:  yeah, that probably won't work...09:07
Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: you want more options?09:07
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seamus7Admiral_Chicago: you think I should configure xorg again and just choose the 'simple' option when it comes to the resolution/monitor option?09:07
DanaGfloating: what's the dhcp issue?09:07
DanaGOn my system, if I have IP address reservation (by MAC and hostname) on my router,09:07
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DanaGI won't get an IP if I don't make /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf send the right host name.09:07
floatinghttp://forum.ubuntulinux.jp/viewtopic.php?id=20  this is most likely the same problem. Same symptoms09:07
DanaGAlso, even then, I'll still not get an IP.09:07
DanaGMy system says "give me an IP address', and the router sits there saying 'who has 192.168.0.9?  Please tell 192.168.0.1."09:07
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seamus7Admiral_Chicago: yeah i was using something like 1200 or 1400 by something09:07
DanaGwell, 192.168.0.9 is the one I reserved.09:07
DanaGstupid router.09:07
Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: yea do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:07
sky123lullabud: so it is requiring the build on the second disk i guess..and then mirrors the first? in some odd psychotic way09:07
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lullabudsky123:  you can't just install to a disk of the array and expect it to work because the array has extra info stored that gets put in from the raid controller when the disks are accessed as an array.09:07
seamus7Admiral_Chicago: will do... thx09:08
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lullabudsky123:  probably what's happening, if it's what i've been experiencing, is you have sda-sdc09:08
lullabudsdc is the array09:08
peanutbeverything i can find about tunneling vnc over ssh mentions putty, im using ubuntu on both sides09:08
lullabudsky123:  even if you take out the disks it may still show up that way.09:08
Eonshello; I need help with jackd (maybe alsa, too)- I need to capture both from line in and microphone09:08
lullabudpeanutb:  search google for the same thing with "-putty" in there.09:08
sky123lullabud: understood..but..if you start all over per se..as i did...and take out one disc...why wouldnt the installer say "okay" there is only one disc in this system so when i install ill stick the bootloader on that disc?09:08
Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: its best to just follow the default options09:08
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floatinghmmm. danag. I have limited knowledge maybe. But do you use dhcp ?09:09
bobbie__4Can i go to bed now?09:09
lullabudsky123:  because there isn't merely one disk.  there is one disk of an incomplete array, and then there is the incomplete array, which shows up as 2 disks.09:09
Eonsthere is a (easy) way to capture from 2 sources?09:09
floatingor did you set up some other method09:09
lullabudsky123:  you'd have to destroy the array, which would leave you with 1 disk that is unusable in an array.09:09
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lullabudsky123:  i fought with this for 2 weeks on a dell PE 2950 perc 5/i raid controller before i got it to work.09:09
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sky123lullabud: I see..even though the installer sees one disc during the install...due to the hardware raid it weirds out09:10
lullabudsky123:  though my config was more complex... 4 disks in raid 10 with a hot spare...09:10
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Oswynhow would i go about making a program execute every time a user logged on?09:10
floatingAh yes you do apparentl. I guess I have to take a look on that conf file09:10
lullabudsky123:  during the install, probably at the end, alt-f2 and snoop around a bit.09:10
lullabudsky123:  try running fdisk on sda through sdc09:10
sky123lullabud:  <insert expletive>...lol09:10
Admiral_ChicagoOswyn: i think there is an option ~/.gnome/autostart09:10
lullabudsky123:  and check out your partition scheme.09:10
Admiral_Chicagolet me checkh09:11
seamus7Admiral_Chicago: after I upgraded to Edgy, my Gnome Panel applets wouldn't take any kind of background transparency for their respective panel .... I had been searching for a solution and finally just tried switchin from 24 to 16 color depth ... and voila that fixed it ... but I had tried a few other things beforehand including changing syncing... fyi09:11
lullabudsky123:  you can do all the maintenance you need by doing a `chmod /target`09:11
lullabudsky123:  er... `chroot /target`09:11
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OswynAdmiral_Chicago: sorry, i meant whenever a user (any users) logs into the shell, through SSH or locally09:11
sky123lullabud: i was hoping to avoid this completely as I have gone through this before on a dell myself 1425SC...and the grub bootloader would blow up when using mondo image..09:11
sky123lullabud: here we go again.09:11
Admiral_ChicagoOswyn: hmm not sure09:12
sky123lullabud: will do...time to go a hunting..as they say09:12
Admiral_Chicagoseamus7: well i don't use GNOME at all, did the 24 bit help? maybe if you restart X and try it09:12
Admiral_Chicagoor i would do a bug report as well09:12
lullabudsky123:  well, my solution was this...  chroot, echo raid driver >> /etc/mkinitramdisk/modules.conf, rebuild initrd, install grub on the correct disk (sdf in my case), modify /target/boot/grub/menu.lst, exit chroot, unmount all fileystems, reboot09:12
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lullabudsky123:  good luck with all that.  i'll be around tomorrow.09:13
lullabudgood night all.09:13
sky123lullabud: yep I get it...youve moved the bootloader to another disk09:13
Samus_Aranwell that took *a lot* of work, but I have upgraded from 6.06 to 6.10 or whatever the latest one is09:13
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Samus_Arantons of dependancy issues, had to go through the install commands over and over, probably about 15 or so cycles through apt-get dist-upgrade then apt-get -f install09:14
sky123lullabud: here is the evil thing..assuming you have a raid mirror...then there is NO gaurantee that you will be able to boot of the second drive09:14
sky123lullabud: unless you go through this process.09:14
peanutbok new question, how do i set up vnc to send me to kdm to login?09:14
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Samus_Aranso far so good.  lots of updated stuff, things seem to be working.  it would have been a nightmarish upgrade for someone that was new to GNU/Linux, though ..09:14
floatingcarpediem; the ap is giving ips to 2 win xp and to 1 mac os but to this xubuntu not09:15
Samus_Aranpeanutb: that one requires you set it up as an xinetd or intetd service09:15
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[Nige] hi all09:15
Samus_Aranpeanutb: google for "xinetd vnc ubuntu OR debian"09:15
Samus_Aranpeanutb: (without the quotes)09:15
zOrKdoes anybody has a broadcom wireless card?, I've built a patch and I'd like to see if it works..09:16
carpediemfloating: ah, okay, that makes it more clearly a problem.09:16
sky123Samus_Aran: welcome to the club...somethings like mplayer-plugin on my box still dont work right..let alone completely having to re-set ndiswrapper..09:16
zOrKit works on my laptop ..09:16
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zOrKneed testers..09:16
floatingz0rk I have got, but I have a problem getting it online09:16
peanutbSamus_Aran, k thanks09:16
Samus_Aranpeanutb: I've done it before and it works really well, but I can't remember the actual lines used09:16
zOrKfloating  would you like to prove my patch?!09:16
zOrKit would be a honor.09:17
Samus_Aranpeanutb: if you're using it over the Internet, I recommend TightVNC, as it has better compression09:17
sky123floating: id try that..09:17
zOrKI have got a broadcom too , and I know that it's a pain in the ass, so I built a patch09:17
floatingsure09:17
zOrKI spent a night doing it09:17
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floatingmy problem is that I cannot get ip from dhcp09:17
zOrKok, get it09:17
sky123sweet man09:17
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peanutbSamus_Aran, ok ill try it if i can09:17
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floatingzOrK: but ill try. where I get it ?09:18
viv`dhow can i preserve xhost settings between sessions so i dont have to enable access every time i log in?09:18
teledyn_ubuntu is doing some really weird things with blank CDs/DVDs09:18
zOrKthere is09:18
zOrKby the way, do you know how to use iwconfig, right?09:18
zOrKonce detected?09:18
jmspeexCan anyone help me get Edgy64 working (i.e. not crashing) on my "Core 2 Duo" laptop. At the moment, any ACPI event (lid close, ac, ...) causes a crash with no error message.09:18
floatingah sorry. I can't receive dcc09:18
Samus_Aransky123: even after it was all installed, it told me that mplayer, tomboy and 35 python packages were "held back", though it didn't say why09:18
teledyn_"cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize"  this is being spit out in syslog every 1s09:18
zOrKfloating  do you have installed ndiswrapper?09:18
zOrKok, i'll upload it somewhere.09:18
Samus_Aransky123: once I told apt-get to install them, it did .. so I'm not sure why it didn't do those automatically09:18
floatingno. I dont have lights up with ndiswrapper, and I use native driver that works09:19
jmspeexIf I disable acpi (or use acpi=noirq), it no longer crash, but it's not very useful, since I can't use the second core.09:19
floating"works"09:19
sky123Samus_Aran: yep pretty ugly....by the way...Linux Magazine just named Dapper as their top pick...not necessarily edgy..09:19
Samus_Aransky123: I also had to remove Opera 8.54, as apparently /usr/bin/X11 or something was moved and symlinked09:19
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zOrKuploading..09:19
sky123Samus_Aran: pretty ugly as you have aptly (no pun intended) put it09:20
floatingIf I first know how to uninstall the native driver, I could try the ndsiwrapper again. But I tried many method before with ndiswrapper and I didnt eve get light on.09:20
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Samus_Aransky123: Dapper was the first Ubuntu I have used, and it was very stable from the get-go.  Edgy has definitely been a rough upgrade, but I have nothing to compare it to, as I've not upgraded between versions, cept years ago on Debian Potato [iirc] 09:20
metresHi all, I tried installing php5, but I have problem... Apache is running but when I try to see a php file, it ask for download...09:20
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sky123Samus_Aran: on my fresh installed box it runs damn well.. however on Sparc I had very weird issues.09:21
nomadsoulis bum out from the ubuntu repos?09:21
Samus_Aranmetres: you need to enable the PHP shared object in the Apache config file09:21
sky123network would just timeout /hang09:21
zOrKfloating  you'd need  ndiswrapper09:21
zOrKhttp://zork.gnu.cl/bcwl-patch.tar.gz09:21
zOrKthere is09:21
BadKittyI thought ubuntu was supposed to be very light... it's eating all of my cpu09:21
Samus_Aranmetres: I think Ubuntu has an individual file for each available plugin09:21
nomadsoulmetres: have you configured you apache.conf ?09:22
zOrKBadKitty  you can install fluxbox09:22
metresI look the apache.conf09:22
Samus_Aranmetres: and you just include that file in the main one09:22
Admiral_ChicagoBadKitty: what is using up the most CPU?09:22
metresnot touch it yet09:22
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sky123BadKitty: probably a process...run top to see what is hogging it09:22
zOrKfloating give it a try and let me know please, remember to install ndiswrapper..09:22
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floatingzOrK: thanks. Do you know how to uninstall this/ If you want to try these, copy/paste the contents of the attachment into your /lib/firmware/, and then run sudo rmmod ndiswrapper, sudo rmmod bcm43xx, sudo modprobe bcm43xx.09:22
nomadsoulmetres: this work is pretty anooyng, that's why the ubuntu guys created a LAMP instalaltion on the ubuntu server cd :P09:22
floatingthat is the native drivers that are currently installed09:22
metresSorry, i add servername localhost...09:23
nomadsouldoes anybody know if there is a graphical tool to select what to boot?09:23
zOrKfloating  my patch is based on that info.. lol09:23
zOrKit'll do it by itself09:23
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nomadsoulmetres: you should search for index.html and add index.php in the same line09:23
zOrKjust give it a try09:23
floatingummhh, so as I have native drivers, your patch uninstalls it, and installs your driver to ndiswrapper that I first install ?09:24
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nomadsoulmetres: and define the type php in apache.conf (i don't remember how :P)09:24
bob438is there a way to make "screen" split vertically, if no then what would be the best alternative?09:24
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sky123bob438: xinerama09:24
Samus_Aranmetres: or just do it manually, http://pastebin.com/828715  << like that09:24
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sky123bob438: ive played with it on suse...but got a new system..and havent used it..09:25
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zOrKfloating nop. what's your native driver?09:25
zOrKbcmwl5.inf ?09:25
metresDo I make change in the apache or apache2 file ?09:25
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floatingno,09:25
zOrKwhat's it?09:25
jediljI just downloaded ubuntu and everything is running choppy eg scrolling, moving files09:25
floatingwait I open up the page where the file is.. chotto matte09:25
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