/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/11/20/#upstart.txt

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archisHi, anybody there to help me understand a few things about upstart etc?01:45
archishmm, so my situation is basically identical to use case 'Fabian' on upstart's Edgy spec page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit01:50
archis'Fabian is a power user who wishes to use a USB disk for part of his filesystem. This currently frequently fails because the USB disk sometimes takes longer to initialise than the boot process takes to get to the point where it mounts the filesystem. He would rather the boot process was robust, and the disk was mounted when initialised.'01:50
archiswhereby I should add that I am using the USB disk for swap as well.01:51
archisMy 5.10 Breezy fstab had them all enunciated, and it just worked that way. link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32913/01:52
archiskeybuk told me that this was because there was enough unexpected delay in the system to allow the USB disk to initialize01:53
archisThat didn't work any more with the much faster boot-up of Dapper. The system complained and I had to take the USB disk volumes out of my fstab. link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32914/01:55
archisNow that Edgy has added UUIDs to each volume in my fstab. link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32915/01:58
archisI haven't added the USB volumes back to fstab yet - is that all I need to do now?01:58
archisAlso, I continue to have problems with the swap located on the USB drive - it doesn't come online automatically even though it is in my fstab and I have to enable it manually.02:01
archisAny suggestions?02:01
archis...02:17
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archisHi Keybuk ..02:26
Keybukheyhey02:26
archisDo you have a minute?02:26
Keybuksure02:27
Keybuksure02:27
Keybukwhat's up?02:27
archisI have a few questions wrt upstart - I just wrote it all down here a little earlier - can you02:28
archisget this or do you want to repeat it?02:28
Keybukrepeat it :)02:28
KeybukI'm just getting everything back online at home after two weeks in SF02:28
archishehe..02:28
archisso my situation is basically identical to use case 'Fabian' on upstart's Edgy spec page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReplacementInit02:29
archis'Fabian is a power user who wishes to use a USB disk for part of his filesystem. This currently frequently fails because the USB disk sometimes takes longer to initialise than the boot process takes to get to the point where it mounts the filesystem. He would rather the boot process was robust, and the disk was mounted when initialised.'02:29
Keybukok02:29
archiswhereby I should add that I am using the USB disk for swap as well.02:29
archisMy 5.10 Breezy fstab had them all enunciated, and it just worked that way. link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32913/02:29
archisyou  told me that this was because there was enough unexpected delay in the system to allow the USB disk to initialize02:29
archis That didn't work any more with the much faster boot-up of Dapper. The system complained and I had to take the USB disk volumes out of my fstab. link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32914/02:29
Keybukactually, Breezy it was more likely due to the fact breezy used hotplug02:29
archis Now Edgy has added UUIDs to each volume in my fstab. link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32915/02:30
Keybukwhereas since Dapper, we've used udev02:30
archisaha02:30
archis I haven't added the USB volumes back to fstab yet - is that all I need to do now?02:30
archisAlso, I continue to have problems with the swap located on the USB drive - it doesn't come online automatically even though it is in my fstab and I have to enable it manually.02:30
archisThat was my rant.. :)02:30
Keybukno, it hasn't been fixed yet02:30
archisah ok02:30
Keybukedgy is largely identical to dapper, except that we changed /sbin/init from sysvinit to upstart02:31
Keybukit's still driving the System V boot process though02:31
Keybukfeisty is the release where we intend to have an event-driven boot02:31
archisok i see.02:31
archisso I'd just leave things as they are for now02:32
archisactually yeah i remember you were telling me about a udev race02:33
archiscondition being the probable cause02:33
archison dapper02:33
archis:)02:33
Keybuk*nods*02:34
archisok thanks02:34
wasabiKeybuk: pong04:05
Keybukwasabi: buggered if I can remember ;)04:06
wasabihah04:06
Keybukprobably something to do with the wiki04:07
Keybukor maybe a spec I was trying to write04:07
_ionCan someone translate those quit messages? :-)08:26
thomi believe scott's is a firefly quote08:28
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