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justin1278hello12:12
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justin1278I am having issues with my External Hard Drive in Kubuntu 6.1012:13
justin1278I cannot delete or save files on it.12:13
justin1278Anybody know how I can fix this?12:13
graftis it mounted read-only?12:13
intelikeyash211 is there no frontend for md5sum  it's xscreemly kriptic.12:13
intelikeyjustin1278 what fs ?12:14
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justin1278intellikey, fs?12:14
graftfs = filesystem12:14
justin1278ah12:14
justin1278NTFS12:14
intelikeygraft i'm thinking M$  and needs umask=12:15
intelikeyyep12:15
intelikey!ntfs12:15
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:15
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kelly__hello12:16
kelly__bubu1uk, I fixed the apt DNS problem that I was having the otherday ;-)12:17
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angasulejustin1278: short version, NTFS is read-only on linux, unless you don't mind risking the data12:17
justin1278ok12:18
kelly__it was a general DNS issue not just relating to apt but a strange issue at that. I found a solution at http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/492413.html12:18
justin1278thanks i think i may have it now12:18
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graftman this song is so good12:19
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justin1278I still cannot write files to it12:19
velleWhich irc client is good for KDE? Which one do YOU use / or which one is popular? I thought Kopete was terrible, and Konversation is not a thrill either.12:20
graftirssi12:20
angasulevelle: konversation12:20
angasuleoh, sorry, missed the second part12:20
angasulevelle: what's wrong with konversation? what are you looking for?12:20
velleangasule: well I still like to know which one you are using :)12:21
LjLvelle, i think the choice is pretty much limited to KvIRC and KsIRC besides Konversation12:21
LjLi'm using Konversation12:21
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graftwait, what's wrong with irssi, bitchx, etc?12:23
graftyou don't need fancy-shmancy windows, you know...12:23
LjLgraft: that they're not "for KDE" as he asked12:23
kelly__hey guys is there a firefox2 package for kubuntu/debian ?12:23
graftum, i am using them within kde12:23
grafttherefore they're for kde12:23
LjLi'm using mIRC within KDE, therefore it's for KDE12:23
bubu1ukkelly__: am glad u sorted it. was really strange issue12:23
graftsure, why not? it doesn't have to have a fricking "K" in the name for it to be a useful client12:24
bubu1ukkelly__: as far as i know on edgy is ff212:24
LjLgraft: i never said it did.12:24
LjLjust claiming you can't say X is for Y just because X can be made to run inside Y12:24
kelly__bubu1uk, yer, using nslookup it was discovered that my router was returning 1.0.012:24
angasulegraft: well, the console is not my first choice to type and read many languages :P12:24
intelikeygraft yes it does...12:24
angasulenot to mention the ability to open links12:24
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angasulewhat's intelikey?12:25
kelly__and i just removed my routers ip from the DNS servers list and added the isp's12:25
graftintelikey is some dude or chick12:25
angasuleoh heh sounds like an app or something :P12:25
velleWell I've only used it a few hours, and I just had a few bad impressions (problems), and I did not want to try to solve these problems if there is something much better, but since so many are using Konversation, I'll go for it now12:25
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angasulevelle: what problems? maybe we can help with those :)12:26
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kelly__also another interesting thing to note, which was noted in the forum, was that if you pinged the domain first then the dns would be cached or something and then apt would work :-S very weird but fixed now ;-D12:26
angasulemIRC is truly horrible, I even prefer x-chat for windows12:26
bubu1ukkelly__: hmm, good to know. never happened something like that to me. anyway it seems like problem with ur router. did u try to upgrade firmware? (either that is works now)12:28
JohnFluxvelle: what don't you like about konversation?12:29
intelikeyJohnFlux i don't know but what i like kirc better than konversation.   but i'm a console user.   bx ya know.12:30
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JohnFluxheh12:30
kelly__bubu1uk, i couldnt find an updated firmware for it12:31
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bubu1ukkelly__: ah right.12:31
JohnFluxintelikey: can never please everyone :-)12:31
joblesshi guys ..12:31
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bubu1ukkelly__: was just wondering. might be good thing later to do. when they release it.12:31
intelikeycan always please no one....12:32
joblesshey I have a problem with my mouse pointer movement ...12:32
angasuleintelikey: actually, I bet that's hard too12:32
kelly__bubu1uk, Yer i will update it if they release one. Also adept cant find the package ff2, do i need a different repository ?12:32
velleangasule and JohnFlux do you hang arround here often, maybe I could get back to you with a decent explanation of why I had a bad impression? I would rather do that tomorrow than explain it now12:32
nekr0zHi there! I have troubles with compose key in Qt apps launched from GNOME. Could anyone help?12:32
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angasulevelle: I'm here sometimes, but not too often, but there's always someone12:32
joblessthe pointer acceleration does not change even though i change the settings ..12:32
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joblessi am using  a dell inspiron12:33
JohnFluxvelle: you can always file specific wish changes on bugs.kde.org  - is it looked at often12:33
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bubu1ukkelly__: its not ff2, lol. i just use it for short as firefox2. dunno. i think it's package firefox in repos.12:33
JohnFluxs/is it/it is/12:33
intelikeyangasule mmm maybe... but pleasing no one != dis-please anyone   so idk.12:33
JohnFluxangasule: LETS KILL HIM!12:34
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angasuleintelikey: the point it, being lazy is the best12:34
intelikeylazy ?   ! i12:34
angasuleJohnFlux: I misread that as 'grab a crotch', so I guess I should take a break and rest my eyes12:34
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JohnFluxangasule: maybe you misread the re-read12:34
kelly__bubu1uk, lol i also tried firefox2 but no luck. There is just firefox tho? is that it?12:34
bubu1ukkelly__: yup.12:35
bubu1ukkelly__: if u use adept. just click on that arrow in beginning of line. it will show u details. it tells u version12:36
angasuleJohnFlux: hmmm, in that case, I should take a break and get away from you freaks? :D12:36
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: ping12:36
intelikeyJucato !12:36
Igor_V2anybody knows the C channel...?12:36
Jucatohi intelikey12:36
kelly__bubu1uk, ok kool. and also how do i enable my nick for private msgs so im not annoying everyone else?12:36
JucatoIgor_V2: ##c12:37
Igor_V2thanks!12:37
joblesshey I have a problem with my mouse pointer movement ...12:37
bubu1ukkelly__: dunno, not a big irc user. is ur nick registered?12:37
intelikeykelly__ /msg nickesrv help12:37
JohnFluxspeaking of nickserv12:38
JohnFluxis there a way to leave users a message?12:38
JucatoJohnFlux: memoserv12:39
intelikeykelly__ but while your questions are on topic  i.e. help/linux related  you should ask in here and annoy everybody.12:39
JohnFluxah thanks12:39
bubu1ukand speaking of irc generaly. is there a guide how to bloody use it? with some easy explanations for dumb people like me? :D12:39
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intelikeybubu1uk look at freenode.org12:40
LjLbubu1uk: http://www.irchelp.org/12:40
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intelikeyor .net12:40
bubu1ukah, thanx12:40
bubu1uk;)12:40
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Jucatobubu1uk: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcCommands and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcGuidelines (Ubuntu-specific guidelines)12:41
intelikeyand one should read the web page for he server they use.  in this case freenode12:42
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intelikeyit may contain server specific guidelines and/or services12:43
Jucatoand for the channel they use12:43
intelikeyJucato yes assuming there is one.12:43
intelikeykinda hard to find the webpage for some of them  :)12:44
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Jucatoyes yes...let's assume, shall we? yes? :)12:44
intelikeyor we could suppose12:45
Jucatoor presume12:45
Jucatolol. sorry. just got up from bed :)12:45
intelikeypossably even infer12:45
intelikeyif we assume should we also expect ?12:47
Jucatoheheh12:47
intelikey:)12:47
Jucatoassuming presumes expectation12:47
intelikeyand percludes it i would suppose12:48
intelikeyok you win.  i give up.  :)12:48
Jucatolol12:48
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Jucatojust when I was about to leave to get breakfast12:49
intelikeygood idea.   think i'll shove some victuals down my goozle too12:49
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SlimGanyone got a solution on howto convert asf into ogg or wav ?12:53
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vellehow do I set Firefox to be the default browser, so that KDE applications does not use Konquerer when they want to open a link for me12:54
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JucatoSystem Settings -> Default Applications12:54
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graftthere's a kcontrol module for it, velle12:54
vellethanks12:56
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arriesp_xao gnte01:05
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ka_1900can i ask somthing ?01:07
ka_1900how can i have a root account in case of using grub?01:07
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bimberi!root | ka_190001:12
ubotuka_1900: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:12
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ka_1900ubotu ,. i mean smthing like linux single ,. but can be applied to grub not lilo01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i mean smthing like linux single ,. but can be applied to grub not lilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
ka_1900how can i use crom to send an email ?01:19
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ka_1900how can i use cron to send an email ?01:20
intelikeyka_1900 edit the grub line and add single     2 setup sendmail as a cron job01:20
ka_1900intelikey ,. i do not understand you !01:21
intelikeyso who does?01:21
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ka_1900i do not mean any bad thing ,. i just want to learn from you ,.01:22
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ka_1900how to edit the grub line ?! and add single01:22
intelikey[esc] 01:22
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Jucatoer.. doesn't the Recovery Mode in GRUB already do that? (Single user mode)01:23
intelikeyjucato i dont think so...01:23
intelikey?01:23
Jucatointelikey: kernel/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb2 ro single01:23
Jucatothat's the line for my Recovery Mode in GRUB01:24
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GNUro_xgl works in kubuntu?01:24
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lupine_85GNUro_: yeah01:24
intelikeyyes it is.    and that is even worse than i thought.   jucato look and see if kdm is in /etc/rc1.d/01:24
foxhound31hello what command can i use to stop the x server please01:24
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lupine_85foxhound31: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop01:25
Jucatointelikey: yeah01:25
Jucatowhy?01:25
foxhound31doh should of thought of that one01:25
intelikeyS or K ?01:25
foxhound31not very clever of me01:25
GNUro_lupine_85: thnx... i try..01:25
Jucatointelikey: K01kdm01:26
lupine_85not in /etc/init.d it isn't01:26
foxhound31i'm going to risk life and limb installing nvidia drivers01:26
lupine_85GNUro_: the desktop environment doesn't interact as well with the window manager (be it compiz or beryl) - specifically, beryl's virtual desktops aren't handled properly by kicker, but there's downloadable version at kde-look.org01:26
lupine_85!nvidiabeta01:26
ubotuFor Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9629 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)01:26
foxhound31see how it goes01:26
lupine_85do that instead :)01:26
intelikeyoh that's normal.   i tought rescue mode still started X01:26
intelikeyJucato ^01:26
ka_1900intelikey ??01:26
Jucatono of course not :)01:27
GNUro_mm ok01:27
GNUro_lupine_85: thnx! :)01:27
nixboxI have a file with multiple lines, each line is basically a number, i want to insert each line from this file to another file, such that each line is appended to the each line of the new file. how do i do that?01:27
Jucatointelikey: you had me worried for a moment there :P01:27
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intelikeyi could sware that i booted recsue mode one time on some ubuntu system and it still came to gdm .....   i have on proof of it now of course....01:28
intelikeymaybe the menu.lst was a hack  i don't know.01:28
lupine_85nixbox: I would read a line from the second file and output it to a temp file, remove the \n, and the output a line from the first file... and continue until end... then delete the second file and move the third file into place01:28
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lupine_85how to do it in bash is an exercise for the reader01:29
lupine_85maybe you could use sed to replace a given instance of \n with a given line from the first file, but I doubt it01:29
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intelikeyka_1900 hit [left-alt]   for the grub menu at boot time.01:29
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intelikeyif that is where your are having an issue.01:30
Jucatointelikey: my menu.lst is default :P01:30
intelikeyJucato it's also edgy01:30
Jucatodefinitely01:30
intelikeythis would have been hoary or dapper   one....01:30
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intelikeyremember i've never seen edgy01:31
Jucatohoary probably. I've never seen that happen in Dapper01:31
proyectom01:32
intelikeyok unless someone streightens us out we'll say it was a hoary thing.01:32
proyectomio01:32
proyectohggj01:32
proyectojygtg01:34
proyectooo01:34
proyectol,po,01:34
proyectooko01:34
ka_1900ok intelikey ,. thanks a lot i will try it01:34
proyectooko01:34
proyectooko01:34
proyectook+01:34
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alanblinsanybody brazilian here?01:35
intelikeyis it a poll ?01:35
Jucato!br01:36
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.01:36
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foxhound31hello kdm does stop the x server but i just get a grey screen01:42
foxhound31i cant type anything in it or run any commands01:42
foxhound31is there anything i can do about this01:43
intelikeyso [alt] +[f2] 01:43
intelikey^01:43
intelikeyeven [alt] +[ctrl] +[f3] 01:43
intelikeyi'm thinking fb is not relenquishing the display.01:44
foxhound31fb?01:44
intelikeyframebuffering01:44
foxhound31oh aye01:45
foxhound31not very helpful01:45
foxhound31is there away to startup01:45
foxhound31wothout starting the x server01:45
foxhound31then i could just go to my desktop directory01:46
foxhound31and run the nvidia drivers01:46
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foxhound31i did server admin command line in linux at university last semester01:46
foxhound31but forgotten most of it now01:47
intelikey[alt] +[ctrl] +[f3] 01:47
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intelikey[ctrl] +[alt] +[f1] 01:48
DinkDaSkreech, im downloading another PPC of kubuntu now01:49
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intelikeyconsole switching is basic admin stuff.    tty{1-6} are default login consoles....  whether x is running or not.01:49
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DaSkreechDink: Hi :)02:03
DaSkreechJust got back02:03
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Dinki was just about to start cooking i have about 15min left on the download02:03
Dinkwhat i am not sure is that kubuntu/ubuntu will be able to be installed via kboot02:04
jdfellowhello just downloaded nasa world wind for linux withan installer i get permission denied as root what now?02:04
jdfellow./jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin: Permission denied02:05
octanwhats the tool called where i can bind a mac to a interface if a have more then 1 of the same nic?02:05
Dinkchmod +x ?02:05
Jucato!java02:05
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:05
octan!macbind02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about macbind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
jdfellowdink was that for me02:05
Dinkyeah02:05
Kim^Jy002:05
octan!bindmac02:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bindmac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:05
jdfellowwhere do i run this command02:06
Dinksudo chmod +x yourfilegoeshere02:06
DinkDaSkreech, bbl going to cook dinner :)02:06
jdfellowthank you02:06
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DaSkreechHi Jucato02:09
Jucatohi DaSkreech02:09
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DaSkreechHow does init stuff work with upstart?02:11
crimsunrephrase, please?02:11
intelikeycrimsun long time no C++   :)02:12
crimsunhullo, intelikey02:13
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Jucatowant some Java coffee? :P02:14
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chxis there a 'light' spreadsheet for Linux? i just want to enter some numbers with explanation text , sum and print it02:19
JucatoGnumeric, KSpread, OO.o spreadsheet02:20
DaSkreechJucato: seen this? http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/02:20
JucatoDaSkreech: yeah. that issue caused quite a ruckus02:20
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DaSkreechWhy are they thinking of shipping Propietarty drivers un Ubuntu?02:22
Tosckynotte ragazzi02:22
Tosckyc' qulcuno di lingua italiana che pu darmi una mano?02:23
crimsunDaSkreech: because people clamor for it02:23
crimsunDaSkreech: ...*buntu is community-driven02:23
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DaSkreechcrimsun: Thats a Dumb ass reason02:23
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DaSkreechPeople want Photoshop to work natively as well02:24
crimsunI think it's apropos even if I disagree with their inclusion and being enabled by default02:24
Tosckysono da poco entrato a far parte del mondo linux e non so installare i programmi02:24
Jucato-offtopic please02:24
DaSkreechI've been told by at least two people that they will use ubuntu when they can buy any game/program coming out in two years and install it in linux02:24
DaSkreechFine fine How do I get a USB wirelss adapter dongle working in Kubuntu?02:26
BetaCookiesyou dont02:26
BetaCookies:P02:26
DaSkreechSeems so02:26
DaSkreech It works if I boot with it in but otherwise I don't see how I can assign it a network alias02:26
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Tosckyc' qulache italiano?02:30
DaSkreech!it02:30
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:30
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Tosckyok,thanks02:30
Toscky!it02:30
foxhound31hello for a given nvidia driver pkg02:30
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: pang02:31
Admiral_Chicagoerr pong02:31
foxhound31how do i tell what other things i need dependencies etc02:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: heheh02:31
Admiral_Chicagotook me a nap02:31
Admiral_Chicagoi need to hunt down dinner02:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: Sho_ replied to your bug report in LP. were you able to read it?02:31
foxhound31I'm trying to install nvidia drivers you see02:31
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Jucato!nvidia02:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:32
Admiral_Chicagono i'll look at it nom02:32
Admiral_Chicagoerr i mean02:32
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I forgot to tell you to file the bug in bugs.kde.org rather than in LP02:32
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i saw Sho said that, I'll put one on there as well02:33
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DaSkreechJucato: What Ruckus?02:35
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chxJucato: huh, oocalc as light??02:36
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JucatoDaSkreech: ruckus, noise, commotion. in MOTU and in the forums02:37
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crimsun?02:37
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Jucatomore probably because one of the owners of one of the repos listed there (ion, I think) did something to inform users about the dangers of using non-official repositories. he did it by changing the user's wallpaper02:38
DaSkreechOh!02:40
DaSkreechThat's not nice02:40
DaSkreechSFW?02:40
JucatoDaSkreech: what wasn't also nice was that the guy who recommended putting all those repositories didn't inform ion about it. the problem was that ion is only on a DSL connection. so you can guess what happened when dozens of people added his repos (which he doesn't give out to everyone, afaik)02:42
nrdbI am trying to setup a vncserver to present a GDM login when a viewer connects, I have setup a system according to http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/VNC_GDM but the vncviewer won't connect :( can anyone help here?  I can ping the computer and there are no firewalls installed.02:42
fulat2khi folks, anyway i can change the power manager in kubuntu 6.10?02:45
DaSkreechI'm confuzzled. Oh they were downloading from ion.. oh. Well I think everyone has learned a valuable lesson here :)02:45
DaSkreechJucato: I'm free :)02:46
DaSkreechNo More teaching for at least two maybe three weeks02:47
JucatoDaSkreech: one of the repos listed on that page was ion's. ion sort of got pissed off02:47
Alter-Egoi need speech to text program for reading caht02:47
Alter-Egoer, text to speech02:48
Alter-Egoso i can hear what is going on02:48
Jucato!ktts02:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ktts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
Jucatoer...02:48
Jucato!kttsd02:48
ubotukttsd: a Text-to-Speech system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1925 kB, installed size 3940 kB02:48
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DinkDaSkreech, that would be a nope doesnt work02:51
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ebivenDoes anyone know how to remove a laptop's cdrom drive without locking up the machine?02:53
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DaSkreechDink: Does it boot elsewhere?02:53
Dinkyeah02:54
DaSkreechDink: Assuming that you have a mac :)02:54
Alter-Egoconfigure it as a removable drive ?02:54
Dinkthe dvd works02:54
ebivenAlter-Ego: Whe do I do that?02:54
ebivenWhe/Where02:54
DaSkreechHmm what do you have the kboot thingy on?02:54
Dinki think kboot needs tweaking02:54
Dinkkboot is on the hdd of the ps3 its what it boots into02:55
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DaSkreechIs it a Live DVd or an alternate DVD?02:55
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Dinkinstall/live dvd02:56
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DaSkreechDoes it support live DVDs?02:56
Alter-Egoebiven no clue02:56
Dinklol no clue.... when I try sda Linux it says sda is not bootable yet... then when i do install-fc sda it looks for the FC dvd which of course its not02:56
Alter-Egoebiven i suspect it can be done, system settings, advanced, drive or maybe through a cli02:56
Dinkgtg ill be back on later.... need to pick up wife then dinner02:57
sybermileso is gedit called kate in kubuntu02:57
ebivenAlter-Ego: Thanks, I'll keep digging.02:57
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morkonHas their been a fix yet with the /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy with multiplayer games? I have tried everything I could find on the net02:57
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purpleposeidonuhmm... help. I turned on X's full screen zoom thing and now I can't turn it off!03:01
purpleposeidonah, got it, nvm03:01
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DaSkreechYeah that happened to me too03:04
jdfellowCan't connect to X11 window03:04
jdfellowserver using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable03:04
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jdfellowi am getting this error see above about not being able to connect X11 window what now?03:05
jdfellowCan't connect to X11 window server using ':0.0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable03:05
jdfellowwhat value do i set the Display variable to work ?03:06
purpleposeidonmorkon: Maybe if you stopped alsa? just a guess.03:06
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campbchdoes anyone here use kdevelop?03:07
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campbchno? :(03:08
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bobindyhi03:09
bobindydoes anyone know how to configure samba03:10
ebivenConfigure it to do what?03:10
ebivenI run a few Samba servers on FreeBSD03:10
campbchfor some reason, it's changed... i never changed it. i can't access the list of projects available that i once had, it uses some crazy layout, doesn't create or open the primary .c file... i restarted, and now it says C++ instead of C, from the exact same settings, same program, and now i cant get back to C folder... it shouldnt matter, but it's really not working correctly?03:10
ebivenIf it isn't linux specific I might be able to help.03:11
bobindywell is there a command to initiate03:11
ebivenTo start the service?03:11
bobindyyes03:11
bobindyI downloaded it and I can find it in a folder03:11
bobindybut can't get it to work03:12
jdfellowcan someone help me with problem?03:12
ebivenShould be in /etc/rc.d/03:12
bobindyhow do   you start   it03:12
ebivenFrom a command line you can issue /etc/rc.d/servicename start03:13
bobindyok thanks03:13
ebivenIt's probably samba or sambaserver or smb-something03:13
bobindylet me try that03:13
ebivenThere is also a "Services" applet03:13
_jhello, i pluged a generic usb keyboard into my laptop and it does not detect in kubuntu.  any suggestions would be appreciated?03:14
ebivenKDE Menu->System Settings->Advanced->System Services03:14
bobindyI'm  there03:15
bobindyit's not there03:15
ebivenDo you see something that says "samba"?03:15
ebivenOr smb?03:15
ebivenIf not it may not be installed.03:15
bobindyhow do I install03:16
bobindyI used adept03:16
ebivenSadly, this question is Ubuntu-specific, where I have no experience.03:16
bobindyto download and install03:16
ebivenI'm a Kubuntu noob.03:16
bobindybummre03:16
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bobindybummer03:16
bobindythanks anyway03:16
bobindyI thought there was some sort of command to initiate it03:17
ebivenToo bad you don't need to pull apart that huge config file or integrate to an LDAP server.03:17
ebiven:)03:17
bobindyI am going to pull something apart03:17
bobindyI will continue the search03:17
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_jbobindy, try /etc/init.d/samba restart03:18
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bobindyetc/init.d/samba: line 25:  5558 Aborted                 start-stop-daemon --st03:20
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DaSkreechDink: basically you have to decide if you want Linux from Day one :(03:20
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bobindydo I need permission03:21
lunitikbobindy: do you actually need full blown samba? (its for a domain... chances are you only need a workgroup...)03:21
ebivensudo03:21
_jyes sudo03:21
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lunitikWhat was his original question? I find it hard to believe Samba is needed....03:22
bobindythat might of done something03:22
lunitikbobindy: chances are you just want to install 'smb4k' as its the easiest KDE based interface for configuring shares.....03:22
bobindyI installed it03:23
_jdo you want to set up a shared dir? or shared printing?03:23
bobindycan't find it03:23
ebivenbobindy: Are you trying to ACCESS a share or be a share?03:23
bobindydir03:23
_jgo to /etc/samba/03:23
intelikeyoh dir03:23
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bobindyaccess a share03:23
_jand edit smb.conf03:23
ebivenYou don't want samba.03:23
lunitikebiven: irrelivant... workgroups can share files... domain is for centralized administration... just over complicates things03:23
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bobindysmb ok03:24
lunitikbobindy: INSTALL SMB4K AND USE IT03:24
lunitikbobindy: I promise it'll be less complicated  :)03:24
bobindyok03:24
bobindythanks03:24
bobindyI think I did but I will check03:24
bobindybrb03:24
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lunitikyou certainly aren't using it!03:25
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lunitikHome networks don't usually need domain controllers... unless you have like 50 boxes in your house?03:25
DaSkreechlunitik: Or you are a geek :003:26
intelikeyyeah the normal 8-10 computer home really doesn't need samba03:26
DaSkreechOr possibly testing stuff onyourself at home beofre you do it at work03:27
lunitikbobindy: via smb4k's depends... you'll also be able to use 'smb://computername/where/you/put/the/file/you/want03:27
_jbobindy smb.conf config is easy.  i've had smb4k crash.  let me know if you want the lines to add to smb.conf?03:27
lunitikjust like you'd use http://03:27
lunitik_j: he doesn't need all that!03:27
bobindyI checked adept03:27
bobindyI installed smb4k03:28
bobindysmbc03:28
lunitikbobindy: then use it... it has a very simple interface!03:28
bobindythe problem is I can't find  it03:28
Lam_my laptop's built-in infrared sensor works out of the box. how do i disable it?03:28
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bobindywhere would it be03:29
lunitikNOT smbclient... smb4k ... its a kde application similar (kinda) to Network Neighborhood... only way better laid out!03:29
bobindygot both03:29
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lunitikbobindy: either system or network in your kmenu03:29
lunitikbobindy: you don't want to use smbclient directly... thats why you have smb4k  :)03:29
bobindynope03:29
bobindyok03:29
bobindythe cats out of the bag03:30
bobindyI don't know what I am doing03:30
lunitikGrr... Utilities? its in one of those... "SMB/CIFS browser" or something03:30
bobindyI'll serch for smb4k03:30
bobindyyes you are right I found it03:31
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lunitikbobindy: I could already tell that much... that's what we're here for though... to help you learn etc  :)03:31
intelikeylunitik i want to learn etc03:32
intelikey:)03:32
bobindyfailed to mount03:32
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lunitikbobindy: in the bottom left corner... there is a browser ... it should look for and find your windows box/other samba box...03:33
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lunitik(I'm gonna be really mad if this is for network printing or such...)03:33
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bobindyyes03:33
lunitikintelikey: You have to ask questions to get answers!03:33
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bobindydo  you put the computer name in03:33
bobindyor ip address03:33
HomerI"M USIN KDE 403:34
intelikeyok what does /ect/ stand for ?03:34
lunitikbobindy: best to use ip  ... you likely don't have nmbd around03:34
intelikeyetc03:34
bobindyok03:34
bobindylet me try03:34
bobindythanks03:34
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Homer//etc is where03:34
Homerall config files03:34
Homerare stored03:34
intelikeynot all but most03:34
Homerall global config files03:35
lunitikintelikey: it actually stands for ecetera ...  but pretend I spelled that correctly...03:35
Homeruser config files are stored in ~03:35
intelikeyHomer actually no.  a very odd few are in /usr/share03:35
Homeroh03:35
lunitikIt was originally for files that that didn't fit anywhere else03:35
Homeryay for consistancy03:35
Jucato /etc/kde3/has the *rc confi files, while /usr/share/apps have the XML config files and other stuff needed by the app (like themes, images, etc)03:36
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Jucatothese are mirrored in ~/.kde/share/config and ~/.kde/share/apps03:36
lunitikJucato: he asked about where KDE4 is putting things....03:36
Jucatoah03:36
[Relic] Hello :)03:36
Jucato /etc/kde4? hehehe03:36
intelikeylunitik who did ?03:37
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lunitikintelikey: Homer did03:37
Jucatoafaik, KDE4 development release is installed on /opt so that you can use it together with KDE 3 on Edgy03:37
Homerplasma sounds cool03:37
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i don't think it's in /opt but it's in a folder that can be used side by side with 3 yes03:37
Homerkde 4 dev 2 is still using kicker03:38
lunitikJucato: /opt and /usr/lib/kde4 mostly... but config files? I have no idea personally... other than user configs which are in .kde403:38
intelikeyplasma sounds cool  hehhe   sound hot to me...03:38
lunitikHomer: Kicker is part of plasma of course...03:38
Homersort of03:38
Homerfrom what I read plasma is a complete rewrite03:38
Homerit be a application that replaces kicker and kdesktop03:39
DaSkreechHomer: it's not supposed to use kicker?03:39
Jucatono. it's not a complete rewrite, but some have been re-written. but not everything03:39
DaSkreechas long as it doesn't use hobbler :)03:39
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic03:39
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!03:39
Admiral_Chicagohehe03:39
lunitikHomer: nah... they are using bits from kicker/kdesktop/konqueror/kompose/etc - porting and making more seamless03:39
Jucato:)03:39
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Homerand will have native support for widgets03:40
Homerin plasma03:40
Skrot-Also apple widgets afaik03:40
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: this is on topic... unless there is a #kubuntu+1 ?03:40
lunitik(actually, I think there are edgy packages for beta kde4)03:40
campbch:p are there any arguments i have to use with gcc? i'm trying gcc ncursestest.c and it says there is no input file?03:40
Jucatolunitik: the /etc question is on topic, but not the other KDE 4 topics03:40
lunitikJucato: hmm.... is there a #kubuntu-kde4 at least?03:41
Jucatolunitik: to ask about development questions for KDE4? #kubuntu-devel or #kde4-devel03:41
campbchaaanyone know?03:41
Jucatobut be prepared, they will presume that you are a developer, not a regular user just playing around03:41
lunitikI'm more than a regular user playing around.... I just suck at concentrating enough to actually write apps/package things (packaging has always scared me cuz I'll be sucked into code if things don't work...)03:43
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bobindyback03:43
lunitikbobindy: you figure everything out?03:43
bobindynot sure how to find the ip address on the windows box03:43
DaSkreechGreat now I have to purge Mplayer03:44
intelikeyi'm just a regular user  :)03:44
lunitikbobindy: did you set up a computer name on that box? if not, just Start > Run > 'cmd' on the windows box... and type 'ping localhost'03:44
bobindyyes03:44
lunitikOr IPCONFIG ... but yeah03:44
lunitikbobindy: you might be able to just type the computer name... XP machines submit such info... idk about previous versions...03:45
lunitikbobindy: theoretically it should just be possible to browse to the machine.. smb4k should scan the network and find the other machine etc... there is some config options in the interface also to set workgroup etc...03:46
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intelikeywhy would mplayer depend on "libdv4 libdvdread3"   that's about stupid isn't it ?03:47
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lunitikSettings > Configure SMB4k almost certainly  :)03:47
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bobindyok let me try03:47
lunitikintelikey: mplayer shouldn't... I've never seen an mplayer package depend on libdvdread3 ... the people that worked on it also ship w32codecs and libdvdcss2.... so wouldn't make sense03:48
lunitikMaybe the packager decided its a good idea though?03:48
intelikeylunitik the dapper package does.03:48
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intelikeymaybe you just didn't notice.03:48
lunitikintelikey: I didn't use mplayer from the archive.... used debian-multimedia when it was nerim.net ... apparently Ubuntu just drug some packages in from there though, so they shouldn't have been that different03:49
lunitik(I've used Marillat packages too much, and it never broke anything.... today the situation is likely a lot worse though...)03:50
unix_infidellunitik: my guess is that the extra stuff is included so that no one whines about it just "not working"03:50
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lunitik(Different major libc versions...)03:50
intelikey"shouldn't"   heh    well any way, dappers mplayer depends on the dvd krap even though i don't have a dvd drive....03:51
lunitikunix_infidel: perhaps.... those other packages are likely in universe for instance03:51
campbchis there supposed to be some sort of vimtutor program?03:51
intelikeydoesn't matter i have no intintion of actually installing it.03:51
unix_infidelintelikey: what's your point, you can still play digital video format media right?03:51
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unix_infidelyou just need a dvd iso.03:51
intelikeyunix_infidel and ?03:52
campbchi a) can't find it installed, b) cant find it on adept, and c) cannot figure vim out to save my life... it seems like there are very specific ways to do things that are not self-evident, like deleting lines03:52
campbchalso, how should one remove a directory using rmdir? it needs to be empty, but that's silly?03:53
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lunitikcampbch: it SHOULD be in Universe....03:53
campbchthere has to be a switch that deletes the directory and everything in it03:53
unix_infidelor just use rm03:53
intelikeycampbch heh yeah i like vim about that much too   ues nano.03:53
intelikeyuse03:53
unix_infidelvim is great if you want to macro everything or have very specific needs.03:53
lunitikcampbch: apt-cache search vimtutor returns vim-common... I'd prolly try that  ;)03:54
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lunitikalso, there is vim-doc which apparently even gives you pretty html layouts.... which tells me its likely on the net too... but yeah... point konqi @ /usr/share/docs/vim-doc/whatever/chapter/you/want03:55
campbchi had vim-common installed by default, but vim, and vim-full, and all the other useful packages that might contain vim itself were not instaleld03:55
campbchinstalled*03:55
intelikeyunix_infidel until you get to extended reg. exp. mcedit can do all vi* does and is a lot more user friendly.  but it does have some M$ nastalga about it, so some don't like it.03:55
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ForzaPalermohey guys i have a linksys wireless card - broadcom chipset..... i can get online fine with iwconfig, but i cant get knetwork manager to find anything or even see the card03:56
ForzaPalermowhat can i do?03:56
lunitikForzaPalermo: NetworkManager is started?03:56
ForzaPalermoi would assume so03:56
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lunitikForzaPalermo: don't guess... ps -e | grep NetworkManager03:57
ForzaPalermops -e | grep NetworkManager03:57
ForzaPalermooops03:57
ForzaPalermo 4242 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManager03:57
ForzaPalermo 4262 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManagerD03:57
lunitikHmm... then we meander into other means of configuration.... that I usually get in trouble for helping people with  :/03:58
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ForzaPalermolunitik, hehe, well any help will do03:59
intelikeyhmmm "NetworkManager" another app i've never used.03:59
campbchis it possible to set the settings so that konsole doesn't beep? whenever i change it, it changes back03:59
lunitikForzaPalermo: #debian is more useful... just don't tell them you're running K/Ubuntu... it just tells them you're an idiot (not because of what you use, but because you asked in the wrong spot etc...)03:59
intelikeycampbch yes inside konsole preferances03:59
lunitikintelikey: Not really useful unless you have a wireless nic04:00
intelikeyvisual bell04:00
intelikeylunitik i don't have a nic04:00
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Jucatocampbch: when you remove the System Bell, do you Save as Default afterwards?04:00
bobindyback04:01
lunitikSomeone should change that... imo too many people are used to just setting it to save04:01
bobindygettin alot of fails04:01
Lam_is there a terminal command to watch for input from any external devices? i want to see what device is picking up my infrared remote and disable it04:02
bobindythanks for your help04:02
bobindyeveryone04:02
HawkwindLam_: Possibly tail -f /var/log/message or dmesg04:02
Lam_Hawkwind: ok i'll try that. thanks04:02
intelikeyLam_ rmmod irmod    or is it ir_mod    maybe lsmod and find the module name...04:02
Lam_intelikey: i don't exactly know what module it is. the infrared worked out of the box in kubuntu04:03
intelikeylam look for ir*mod04:03
ForzaPalermono one is helping me in debian :(04:03
lunitikbobindy: You're sure the Windows system is set up for sharing files and folders?04:03
intelikeyForzaPalermo what you working on ?04:04
lunitikgrrr04:04
ForzaPalermogetting knetwork manager to detect my wireless broadcom chipset04:04
ForzaPalermothis way i dont need to use iwconfig04:04
lunitikHe should NOT be having issues... even my mother figured out how to browse Windows shares with SMB4K  :/04:04
ForzaPalermoi want to say its something to do with me interface file04:04
intelikeyForzaPalermo hmmm out of my ball park,   have you asked in ##linux ?04:05
Lam_intelikey: nothing. didn't find anything even with ir*04:05
ForzaPalermono04:05
intelikeyLam_  lsmod | grep ir     turned up empty handed ?04:05
Lam_intelikey: yeah04:06
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lunitikCertainly a better source than ##linux04:06
[Relic] where's the cofiguration for sensors and the sensor data stored (if it is logged)04:07
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Lam_how irritating. i can't work on getting my remote to work on my desktop if my laptop keeps turning itself on when i push buttons04:07
ForzaPalermoim not scared... im in debian... and no one even responded04:07
lunitikForzaPalermo: you already messed up... its called NetworkManager-kde in Debian04:08
intelikeylunitik "helpful bunch so long as..."   i've never gotten any thing but foul mouthed adgitation from there...04:08
lunitikintelikey: I learn a bunch every time I go in there...04:08
intelikeyi'm sure there are some really nice people judging by the number of users.  but....  the loud mouth is the one heard.04:08
ForzaPalermolunitik, well how am i supposed to know that04:09
lunitikI also know who to ask when I have a legit question....04:09
intelikeythat's the key ^04:09
lunitikForzaPalermo: your question is related to NetworkManager... not the KDE interface04:09
lunitikForzaPalermo: hmm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager04:10
intelikeyForzaPalermo generally as short as you can make a question with still providing the pertanant info, is the best.   in any channel...04:11
Kiongku_^04:11
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ForzaPalermook thanks04:12
lunitikRead through the issues etc... see if anything seems familier... ignore nm-applet same as knetworkmanager... everything else is valid04:12
paulwForzaPalermo: quietly lurking to get the feel of the environment helps too04:12
lunitikintelikey: Not at all...04:12
lunitik!smart questions04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smart questions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
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lunitikhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html  <-- good reading to get help from intelligent people04:13
intelikeyso go read it.04:13
intelikey:)04:13
lunitikIntelligent people don't want to guess what you actual issue is... they want all the info up front, so they can troubleshoot with you easier04:13
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lunitikintelikey: I've probably read it in its entirety like 50 times....04:14
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lunitikIn the Ubuntu mediums, its generally ok, because knowledgeable people (ie, those that have your answer) are generally more patient...04:15
campbchif i were to install something like a library, e.g ncurses, how would i use it? im using ncurses.h like the tutorial says, but neither gcc or kdevelop can find it? i know kdevelop uses gcc to compile, so it's technically the same, but anyways...04:15
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campbchit says its installed, but locate:ncurses..h turns up nothing, so it's not on the machine04:15
lunitikcampbch: apt-cache search ncurses -dev04:15
campbchwith one ., of course04:15
lunitik(note the space)04:15
=== intelikey still wonders who is intelligent.
lunitikuhh... ignore the - in -dev though04:16
=== lunitik could have named the package... but showing tools to assist in the future is more helpful :$
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paulwintelikey: there are a lot of super egos out there that legends in their own minds :)04:17
kalbojucato !04:17
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Jucatohi kalbo/dude_04:17
dude_hello guys04:17
intelikeypaulw mmm hmmmm04:17
dude_jucato: how do i install nvidia beta drivers04:18
Jucatointelikey is intelligent-likely04:18
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campbchok, im following http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NCURSES-Programming-HOWTO/helloworld.html verbatim, but it will not compile saying that everything's all referencing bad things?04:19
lunitikdude_: http://albertomilone.com/wordpress  <-- he discusses the most useful recent drivers...04:19
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Jucatodude_: dunno. just follow the link lunitik gave. just be careful. "beta" really means beta04:20
intelikeyJucato or not.  but we are all in error measuring our selves by our selves, and compairing our selves to our selves.....04:20
Jucatointelikey: trying to get philosophical, are we? :)04:20
paulw:)04:20
lunitikJucato: I don't think Alberto's packages are really beta? just the most recent packaged....04:20
intelikeyJucato no did that earlier  remember... :)04:20
dude_jucato: ya, already a victim of beta crash community....04:21
Jucatolunitik: probably. dude was asking about beta drivers. I just presumed :)04:21
campbcheverything is installed correctly, i just cant get it to work now :( it didnt give me a message saying it couldnt find the header this time04:21
Kiongkuo.O04:21
campbchmy eyes hurt04:21
Jucatointelikey: heheh. I'm not into a philosophizing condition right now, though :)04:21
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campbch:(04:22
campbchi want04:22
campbchto be able to make a program that can take a screen print output at standard (x,y) spots in text form04:23
campbchthey say ncurses can do this, but i cant get it to work04:23
campbch:( anyone have any pointers?04:23
lunitikJucato: what is the versioning on the beta driver? his latest is 962904:23
lunitik(latest in edgy is 82-something afaik)04:24
campbchwhat does it mean by undefined reference?04:24
lunitikcampbch: #ncurses probably04:24
Jucatolunitik: 8776 on Edgy, iirc. Alberto doesn't mention in his blog which driver it is04:24
lunitikJucato: http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=42  hmmm04:25
intelikeythere is an ncurses channel registered but it's empty....04:25
Jucatolunitik: I think the 9xxx driver is beta in the sense that it is not yet tested to work 100% on Ubuntu04:25
campbchis empty :( its gotta be a general question04:26
campbchim sure its something i just dont know about related to the system04:26
paulwgnite all04:26
intelikeycampbch ask in ##linuxhelp   you might get lucky.04:27
lunitikcampbch: you asked earlier about gcc args? you are using plain 'gcc ncurses.h' ?04:27
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lunitikWith build-essential and libncurses5-dev installed, it should compile with what your link says....04:30
Bennerhi, i am a newbie to kubuntu, it first dont recognized my ati, so i had few resolution fail boot, but after started in recovery mode and reconfigure my xorg.conf i typed startx and its work now like a charm, but only if i go in console first and startx, if it boot from the grub, resolution fail, i supose there is two xorg.conf from different users?04:32
robotgeekBenner: nope04:32
lunitikBenner: 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic xorg-driver-fglrx'04:33
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lunitikBenner: read that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455704:34
lunitikI just realized the rest is complicated via IRC  ;)04:34
intelikeyBenner also to your actual question,  the default config is in /etc/X11/  if you have one in any users home then that will be used for that user   you chould put the working config in etc and rm any others04:35
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Bennerintelikey if think that's my answer04:35
Bennerlet me see04:36
lunitikBenner: what I said will get things actually working...04:36
Bennerlunitik: i did that already but in the recovery mode started by startx command... work fine04:36
Bennerbut i cant get into my default account04:37
lunitikintelikey: xdm/gdm/kdm do not parse ~/.xorg.conf or something... and .xsession doesn't configure settings04:37
lunitikBenner: the recovery mode uses vesa04:37
intelikeylunitik startx does !04:37
intelikeyso think.04:37
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lunitikintelikey: umm... care to give me a line where it contains this?04:38
intelikeyno04:38
lunitikintelikey: No X Server parses a users personal config file for anything but individual sessions04:38
Bennerwhen i go into system setting, display it says : graphic card=ati driver=fglrx04:38
DinkDaSkreech, you still around ?04:38
DaSkreechYes04:39
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lunitik(ie, you can throw things like 'exec fluxbox & exec amarok' in .xsession ... you can't tell it to use a different resolution via that file04:39
intelikeylunitik talking through your hat ?04:39
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Dinki dont think there is a way to install kubuntu through kboot is my conclusion ;)04:39
lunitikintelikey: no... I've read the script04:39
DaSkreechWell there must be some reason :)04:40
lunitikintelikey: vi /usr/bin/startx04:40
intelikeylunitik i've started x via startx with a broken xorg.conf in my home and guess what....04:40
DaSkreechOther than Sony loves Fedora04:40
lunitikintelikey: /$HOME ... go through the entire file... it never parses a user specific server config... only session configs04:40
SperMitewhat would be wise to do with this message : Configuration file `/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc' , here are my options ( http://dpaste.com/3106/)04:40
solid_liqanyone know how to access the advanced keybindings like you can in stock KDE so that I can assosciate a key press with a dcop command or a shell script or whatever I want?04:41
intelikeylunitik well you're not as clever as you think you are.   test it.04:41
Dinklol04:41
lunitikintelikey: you can specify another config file... but it WILL NOT parse one automatically04:41
Dinkthere probably is.... Im not smart enough to figure it out yet ;)04:42
intelikeyyes it does04:42
Bennerok suposing there's another xorg.conf.. where are they supossed to be? in /home ?04:42
lunitikintelikey: you're wrong... but I'm not going to argue with you04:43
intelikeylunitik no i'm not.04:43
lunitikintelikey: find the line where it parses it, and I'll look04:43
intelikey(==) Using config file: "/etc/dhcp/xorg.conf"04:43
intelikeyData incomplete in file /etc/dhcp/xorg.conf04:43
intelikeysee that04:43
lunitikok?04:43
intelikeycommand was touch xorg.conf ;startx04:43
intelikey /etc/dhcp is root's home dir btw04:44
Benneri only have /etc/dhcp304:44
intelikeyso stop talking through your hat.04:44
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DaSkreechDink: Yeah The only thing that is you have to knwo from Day one that you want  Linux on it04:44
intelikeyBenner i set that up as root's home.  i don't have a /root  :)04:44
Dinkwhat you mean ?04:45
DaSkreechSInce you have to format the entire drive04:45
Dinkother then it will format your saved games ;)04:45
Benneroot@Benner:/etc/dhcp3# ls04:45
Bennerdhclient-enter-hooks.d  dhclient-exit-hooks.d  dhclient.conf04:45
Dinkyeah it will delete your saved games04:45
DaSkreechWhat kind of drive is it?04:45
DaSkreechLaptop?04:45
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Dinkyeah04:46
intelikeynow lunitik if you care to test that.   'i could care less what file or line in the file does it'  you will see, and you will stop arguing with me about it.04:46
lunitikintelikey: 'touch xorg.conf ; sudo startx -- :1' ... uses /etc/X11/xorg.conf .... 'touch xorg.conf && sudo startx -- :1' ... gasp... it uses xorg.conf04:46
DinkGoing to watch some tv with the wife.... going to think this through some mroe..... there has to be a way :)04:47
intelikeyi didn't sudo anythinh04:47
intelikeyi didn't sudo anything04:47
lunitiknormal users can't startx04:47
lunitik(at least not from konsole  :/)04:47
[Relic] show me one person who is normal  :)04:47
intelikeylunitik sudo -i    then touch xorg.conf ; killall kdm ;startx04:47
lunitik*goes to try same test on a real cli*04:47
lunitikintelikey: why killall? just start anew  :/04:48
intelikeybecause the user asking the question that you were misinforming was using a root console to startx   simulate the conditions.04:48
intelikeyor is that not obvious ?04:49
DaSkreechDink: if I see the other guy I'll drop your name04:49
aibhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions redirects to http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions04:49
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Bennerok i'm trying something..04:49
lunitikintelikey: you're making shit up as you go along... and I wasted time testing... good job?04:49
intelikeyshall i scrool up and get the quote ?04:50
kalbojucato: how do i un install nvidia beta driver04:51
lunitikI did it via sudo -i  ... via sudo ... always reads xorg.conf... like I said IT WON'T PARSE RANDOM xorg.conf FILES04:51
Jucatokalbo: dunno... sorry04:51
intelikey<Benner> hi, i am a newbie to kubuntu, it first dont recognized my ati, so i had few resolution fail boot, but after started in recovery mode and reconfigure my xorg.conf i typed startx and its work now like a charm, but only if i go in console first and startx, if it boot from the grub, resolution fail, i supose there is two xorg.conf from different users? <--- make that up.04:51
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intelikeylunitik ^04:52
lunitikI have an ATI card... it happens to me EVERY time I do a fresh install...04:52
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intelikeydoesn't matter point is he has two xorg.conf files  one loads from startx in the console the other is the default and the default was the broken one.04:53
kalbojucato: what is the command for re configuring the xorg/04:53
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Jucatokalbo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:53
lunitikintelikey: He was a n00b guessing...04:53
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kalbojucato: tnx04:53
lunitikintelikey: Please stop addressing me...04:54
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intelikeylunitik k stop agruing with me about it :)     </done>04:54
sgorilla80cpu scaling seems to work for me in kde but not in gnome04:54
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[Relic] anyone know where the config file for sensors is?   I am sure it is getting mb/cpu values backwards04:54
intelikeylmsensors ?04:55
Lam_does anyone else use gaim and notice that gaim messes up the 2-row tray icons when the panel is set to 48px?04:55
lunitik[Relic] : dpkg -L lm-sensors | grep etc04:55
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lunitik[Relic] : you'd probably prefer ksensors04:56
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nicholeeh04:56
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nicholeso im having trouble with firefox // konquorer + internet....04:56
lunitiknichole: what is the issue?04:57
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nicholeim on yahoo // sbcglobal // att // whoever they call themselves this week internet...04:57
[Relic] lunitik, not sure I am trying to find if there is any output file to see if I can get the info into another program too04:57
nicholebut images in myspace decide not to load randomly....04:57
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nicholeand just some dont load... a lot of em do which is what makes it confusing... and its not the same ones from one session to the next...04:57
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reldruhhi04:58
lunitiknichole: Thats because MySpace is targeted at IE, and IE allows for broken code.... fwiw, I've had better results with Flock for such sites04:58
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nicholealso: ive noticed that with the flash vids from say youtube.com that if i watch as i go or pause a bit into it they dont wanna play correctly if i wait till they are finished loading.. and replay from the start...04:58
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nicholelunitik: flock?? wth is that :304:58
reldruhI'm having some trouble using my camera in kubuntu and was hoping to get some help04:58
lunitiknichole: www.flock.com ... a firefox fork especially for social websites  :)04:59
nicholeo.o zomg thanx04:59
nicholesame with youtube?04:59
lunitiknichole: I use it as my current 32bit browser on my amd64 system.... works out nicely  :)04:59
nicholeand is there a way to tell what flash i have... i want that new beta :3 if its stable at all at least////04:59
nicholelunitik:  is it faster btw?04:59
nicholeive noticed that firefox takes its pretty time :/04:59
lunitiknichole: for youtube... you want flash9 not flash7 .... flash7 has horrible effects like being out of sync several seconds on linux05:00
intelikey!flash05:00
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:00
intelikey!flash905:00
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html05:00
intelikeyfirst one was an ooops.05:00
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sgorilla80how do you configre wireless in kde?05:01
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sgorilla80i want an easy gui interfaced05:01
nicholeubotu:  thanx ;p been through that page.,. i know i tried to get the flash 9 in and also tried the regular... just wanted to knwo if there was a .. o wait thats a package for it on seveas?? sweet thats perfect.... and yes this is dapper sorry05:01
intelikey!wifi | sgorilla8005:01
ubotusgorilla80: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:01
nicholeer i meant intelikey not ubotu ... ~_~05:01
intelikey:)05:01
nicholeand apparently i just sent an edit request to the bot ~_~05:02
nicholeso the package is still flash-nonfree ?05:02
lunitikflashplugin-nonfree ... yes...05:02
vanI can't get OpenGL to function with an ATi Radeon X1300Pro in Edgy.  Can someone help?05:02
nicholeah thanx05:03
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lunitikmmm... he has w32codecs too... that'd be a pain to get working though  :|05:04
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DaSkreechWhy isn't flock in the repos?05:04
sgorilla80kaffeine seems good05:04
intelikeylunitik peace be with ya.  i'm outa here.05:04
lunitikDaSkreech: No maintainer built a package?05:04
nicholemm oh yeah... also what about the repository.. do i need to add a spot on it?05:04
nicholelike main or non-free etc ?05:04
DaSkreechhow is that possible?05:04
nicholesorry to bother as j00 go !_!05:05
sgorilla80is there something like the equivalent of network-manager-gnome05:05
nicholeeg05:05
lunitiknichole: add deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com dapper-seveas custom via 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (recommend at the bottom under '## THIRD PARTY REPOS'05:06
lunitikthere is also 'extras' instead of 'custom' which is interesting....05:06
lunitikhmm... even more to have fun with via dapper.... he only has 3 for edgy  :/05:07
lunitikhttp://seveas.imbrandon.com/pool/dapper-seveas/05:07
reldruhcan anybody help get my camera running? It's recognized in Edgy but I can't view files or use it with digikam. I keep getting the error message "could not claim usb device" when I try to view it in Konqueror05:08
sgorilla80is there something in kde, equivalent to windows xp wireless management program05:08
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reldruhsgorilla80: in kubuntu there's a wireless assistant. It's in the K-menu under internet05:09
Dr_willis!wireless05:09
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:09
reldruhthat sounds like what you're looking for05:09
sgorilla80reldruh: does it support WPA, or is that device dependent?05:10
lunitikreldruh: That thing doesn't directly utilize WPA05:10
lunitiksgorilla80: no05:10
sgorilla80is wpa support not very good in linux?05:10
sgorilla80what program should i use for wpa05:11
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reldruhI tried :-)05:11
Healotsgorilla80: no... depends on the driver, really, manufacturer's support is lacking05:11
lunitiksgorilla80: it is... kwlan apparently handles it fine.... wlassistant is brain dead on the subject though, even though they both use the same backend05:11
reldruhspeaking of manufacturer support, does anybody have any ideas why my camera is recognized but innaccessible?05:12
DaSkreechsgorilla80: I'm sorry are you a 80 lb gorilla?05:12
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sgorilla80DaSkreech: 230 lb05:12
aibis there a way to make Adept stop filtering once I see the package I want?05:12
lunitikwpasupplicant is depended on by both.... but kwlan apparently handles it better.... you can use wpasupplicant directly if you're not scared of some man pages etc05:12
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lunitiksgorilla80: ^05:13
sgorilla80i guess you can figure out how to write raw frames05:13
sgorilla80and watch how windows connects with wpa05:13
sgorilla80and make it work with linux05:13
lunitikwpasupplicant is part of default install05:13
sgorilla80cool, i looked at wpasupplicant, never tried running it05:14
lunitikYou'd just feed it the key.... and voila05:14
sgorilla80cool, that sounds cool05:14
sgorilla80i have a sprint evdo card05:14
sgorilla80i guess i can hack on that now05:14
sgorilla80then when im at some place with wpa05:14
sgorilla80i can hack on wpasupplicant to test it out, and be able to look stuff up on the internet05:14
sgorilla80hard to get stuff working in linux (for me) when i have no internet05:15
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sgorilla80i want a stomp box where i can give other people access05:15
sgorilla80like run a ap which is connected to evdo05:15
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sgorilla80lunitik: run openvpn05:15
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lunitikwlassistant will get you online if you turn off security to download knetworkmanager05:16
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lunitiksgorilla80: care for my IP too?  :S05:16
miyakoquick question hopefully someone can help me out with: how do I go about changing the default command line editor from nano to vim?05:16
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sgorilla80well lately i have just been using iwconfig with shell scripts05:16
sgorilla80but im trying to set up ubuntu for other people and i dont expect them to do it05:17
lunitikmiyako: export $EDITOR='/usr/bin/vim' <-- throw that into your bashrc05:17
Dr_willisbe sure vim is installed. :)05:17
sgorilla80also im lazy and i dont want to keep writing shell scripts05:17
lunitikmiyako: also... update-alternatives --config editor  will let you also05:17
miyakoI don't remember specifically installing vim, but I use it all the time, if it wasn't installed I'm sure it was the first thing I ever installed ;)05:17
Dr_willisi think some other vi is isntalled by default.05:18
aib(first thing after emacs, of course)05:18
lunitik(gives you a pretty little ncurses interface any everything... you just pick from a list... but thats system wide)05:18
lunitiks/any/and/05:18
miyakohmm, ok, got that changed05:19
miyakoit was one of those little things that bugged me, but never enough to really change05:19
sgorilla80so knetworkmanager is better than the kde wirless helper?05:19
miyakothen finally today I decided that I might as well find out how to change it lol05:19
lunitiksgorilla80: if you have a laptop... certainly... unless you enjoy setting things up every time you want to access another WAP?05:20
lunitikmiyako: update-alternatives is helpful little app  :)05:20
miyakoyeah, seems like it05:21
miyakoI'm pretty new to Ubuntu- though I'm guessing update-alternatives is a debian thing that ubuntu inherited?05:21
miyakobeen using Suse and Redhat for a while05:21
lunitikmiyako: sudo update-alternatives --config [tab] [tab]    to see what else you can configure as preferences...05:21
miyakolunitik, thanks, that's handy ^_^05:22
lunitikmiyako: Red Hat has it... I'm not sure about SUSE?05:22
lunitikThey ported it from Debian  :)05:22
miyakoSuse uses YaST for all the configuration stuff05:22
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RawrnessCould i run berryl decently with this? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7951638&productCategoryId=cat01151&type=product&tab=1&id=115283657567405:23
miyakoit's sorta like a linux version of the control panel in windows: clunky- writes over your config files- slow- but you always know that if you need to change something you can find it in there05:23
miyako...wow, I never realized emacs had an IRC client05:25
lunitikRawrness: comfortably? I'm not sure... things like the flame effect are pretty resource intensive... you should be able to get some effects though, yes05:25
lunitikRawrness: Even with the open source drivers perhaps  :)05:25
miyakoI wonder how easy it is to write plugins for Beryl05:26
RawrnessI would be runing the nvida betas05:26
RawrnessRight now my Geforce 6100 gives me alot of blank black boxs05:26
miyakosomeone needs to fix this desktop cube thing, we need a desktop n-gon, where n is at least 8 and preferably 1605:26
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RawrnessI just want rid of them05:26
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miyakoI had a lot of trouble with the nvidia beta driver05:27
miyakoit runs fine with Beryl05:27
miyakobut the 2D performance is abysmal05:27
lunitikmiyako: There are options to assist with that if I recall...05:28
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miyakoI've been playing around with OpenGL a bit lately05:29
lunitikHmm... I don't see it  :/05:29
lunitikI guess that was the radeon drivers  :/05:29
miyakobeen writing a photo management app, was thinking for a bit about rendering the UI in OpenGL, to make it a fancy shmancy app for people to show off on their XGL desktops hehe05:29
Dr_williswrite a screensaver that shows photos in little photo frames/collages and moving about. :)05:30
Dr_willislike a stack of instant-kodak prints blowing in the wind.05:30
Dr_willis:)05:30
miyakowhat I'm working on right now is a program that lets me import directories full of images05:30
miyakoand do batch resizing, rotation, and watermarking05:30
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miyakothen automatically upload them to my blog05:30
miyakothen I'm going to start adding some experimental features05:31
miyakolike being able to search for your images by drawing a picture05:31
miyakoas well as automatic photo correction ala "I'm Feeling Lucky" in Picasa05:31
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miyakoalso thinking about trying to write a simple facial recognition algorithm05:32
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miyakoand tying it with a tagging system05:32
miyakoso the application will start to figgure out what photos are of who05:32
miyakoalso have some Texture Synthesis algorithms I wrote in java that I might port over and add to the application05:33
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miyakoand eventually it will be one of those big kitchen sink applications that shows off a lot of things that are neat theoretically, but is unusable for anyone under the rank of Advanced God05:33
miyakosorta like Emacs :-P05:33
Healotgeek blog ~ yummy05:34
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miyakoyeah, suppose I should head over to kubuntu-offtopic now05:35
miyakoor sign off completely and get some sleep05:35
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DaSkreechHow do I close a split view in Konqueror?05:35
Dr_willisYou lose geek points for sleeping.05:35
lunitiklatter probably being the better idea  :D05:35
sgorilla80hmm, kde wireless network configurator crashes on me05:35
sgorilla80and when i get it running it doesnt work05:35
miyakoDr_willis - I haven't slept yet since I woke up at 1am saturday and started waiting in line for my Wii05:35
miyakoI think my geek points will still be in good standing05:36
sgorilla80those automated network programs never work for me05:36
miyakoand if I sleep so will I, at my job05:36
miyakolol05:36
DaSkreechInstall Kubuntu on it :()05:36
Healotsleeping at work :)05:36
Dr_willismiyako,  not for a Wii. :)05:36
sgorilla80miyako: are you going to sell it on ebay?05:36
lunitikDaSkreech: same menu you created it in!05:36
sgorilla80you can install kubuntu on ps305:36
miyakosgorilla80, heck no, I play Zelda on it05:36
DaSkreechlunitik: Ctrl+Shit+L ?05:36
miyakoand then when I can buy another one, I'll install Linux on it05:36
Dr_willisI will go get a Wii  in Feb, or March.. when i can walk into a store and just pick one up...05:36
Dr_willis:)05:36
lunitikDaSkreech: R05:36
sgorilla80miyako: i remember zelda back in the nes days05:36
sgorilla80that was an awesome game05:36
Dr_willisactually you just reminded me of all the OTHER zelda games i got that never have finished.05:37
DaSkreechlunitik: Great :)05:37
sgorilla80zelda on snes was cool also05:37
miyakosgorilla80, the original zelda is available for the Wii through the virtual console ;)05:37
Dr_willisWith the GC. and the move of zelda to a 3d world.. it just dont seem as fun...05:37
lunitikDaSkreech: only an option to close active view though.... annoying if you're not thinking05:37
sgorilla80miyako: that is awesome05:37
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sgorilla80is it possible to disable your hardware eject button on cdrom05:37
sgorilla80i accidently hit it alot05:38
miyakoDr_willis, sgorilla80 - care to carry on this conversation in #kubuntu-offtopic ? I don't want to clog up the main room05:38
DaSkreechHmm I should probably figure out a way to jump between split views then05:38
lunitiksgorilla80: mount a cd in it all the time.... then it won't open   :P05:38
Dr_willisheh - ive said about all i know on the topic. heh .. :)05:38
sgorilla80lunitik: i am playing a movie on it, and it still lets me eject05:38
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sgorilla80i guess its not mounted, but able to be read05:39
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lunitiksgorilla80: movies don't get mounted05:39
lunitik(nor do audio cd's)05:39
lunitik(in response to your question.... afaik there is no way...)05:39
miyakoKDE auto-mounts DVDs on my DVD reader05:39
Dr_willisi noticed befor the KDE showed my audio cds with special dirs for flac/mp3/so on...05:39
miyakobut the system won't mount DVDs at all in my burner for some reason05:39
Dr_willisbut it dont show it now..05:39
miyakoDVD movies that is05:40
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lunitiksgorilla80: ls -l /media/cdrom0 (or 1) ... anything like .VCD listed?05:41
sgorilla80lunitik: nope05:41
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lunitiksgorilla80: in neither directory?05:41
sgorilla80true05:41
sgorilla80i checked mount also05:41
sgorilla80nothing like a dvd rom is listed05:42
sgorilla80hdb05:42
lunitik(cdrom0 would be /dev/hdc .... cdrom1 /dev/hdd)05:42
lunitiksgorilla80: Then its not mounted...05:42
sgorilla80oh yeah, hdc05:42
miyakoI think there is a command to tell what is mounted, and where05:42
miyakobut I can't remember what it is05:42
smaggarddf05:42
smaggardi think05:42
Dr_willistry the 'mount' command. :)05:42
smaggardtype df05:43
smaggarditll show ya what is mownted05:43
miyakohmm, I guess that does show removable media as well05:43
miyakonever realized that05:43
smaggard:D05:43
Dr_willisif its mounted.. it should show it.05:43
miyakoI think there is another, much more cryptic command, that does the same thing05:43
Dr_willisthe system  dosent care about 'removeable' or not. :)05:43
miyakoDr_willis, true enough - guess I should know that05:44
lunitikEverything is removeable/hot swappable in the kernel....05:44
lunitikIncluding CPU's and RAM... on every platform.... thanks to mainframe support....05:45
Dr_williseverything is a file. :)05:45
lunitikDr_willis: over simplification, but sure05:45
sgorilla80does kde have something where you can see temperature readouts?05:46
sgorilla80like lmsensors05:46
lunitikalthough I don't recommend pulling out a ram stick or cpu for the record... it SHOULD work... but it COULD go bang too!05:46
Dr_willislunitik,  heh - it was in some Linux book by oriealy so its got to be true!05:46
Dr_willis:)_05:46
lunitiksgorilla80: ksensors05:46
miyakolunitik, might not work so well on single CPU machines though ;)05:46
lunitikDr_willis: It is... Greg Kroah-Hartman was boasting about it not so long ago05:47
miyakomaybe if you did it REALLY fast05:47
lunitik(well, I read the presentation not so long ago...)05:47
miyako"when you can swap your CPU between clock cycles, then will you be ready"05:47
Dr_willisYea - its so confusing to  my windows friends that i can 'mount' a drive anywhere on the system..05:47
lunitikDr_willis: You can do that on Windows too actually....05:48
miyakoDr_willis, can't you do that on Windows too?05:48
lunitikmiyako: you can indeed!05:48
Dr_willisits ever worked very well...05:48
Dr_willisunder windows for me.05:48
lunitikI did it like 30 times just to make sure once  (H)05:48
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Dr_willisheck windows has fits when my system installed to D: and  i had no C:05:49
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lunitikDr_willis: You just create a drive... and instead of picking a drive letter... pick a Directory....05:49
miyako*nod* that's the way our work machines are set up, and they are running NT405:49
Dr_willislunitik,  i do belive thats for ntfs only however...  i forget now.05:49
lunitikDr_willis: Yeah, it doesn't like that much05:49
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Dr_willisi aint booted to windows in a Loooooooooong time05:50
lunitikDr_willis: Its not even for XP Home... only the professional branches05:50
Dr_willislunitik,  heh.. well aint that special... lets take out features!05:50
lunitikIts one of the little throw ins you get for that extra ~$10005:50
miyakoI use linux at home, at work I have to use windows...to run cygwin to SSH into a linux box05:50
lunitikDr_willis: To be fair, you get FTP and HTTP servers too etc....05:50
Dr_willisI just use putty.exe to ssh to my linux box's :)05:51
Dr_willislunitik,  let me get out my wallet! heh05:51
lunitikYou get an average Linux system for $24005:51
miyakoDr_willis, all our work machines run Cygwin, because they won't install Linux, but they will do everything linux-y on windows under Cygwin *sigh*05:51
Dr_willisisent cygwin like.. no longer being developed?05:52
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miyakoDr_willis, it's changed hands a bunch of times, and Redhat no longer supports it AFAIK, but there is still a bit of work that gets done on it05:52
lunitikDr_willis: I'm sure it sees a line a year, at LEAST!05:52
Dr_willisheh.05:53
miyakowe're running the latest version XOrg on it, as well as gcc405:53
Dr_willislast i used cygwin - some how it made some dirs on my XP drive i couldent delete.. :)05:53
lunitikIt was one of the things Red Hat got via the Cygnus transaction05:53
miyakoI'm not complaining though05:53
miyakothey are talking about maybe moving to Linux05:53
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miyakoand it will certainly make my life easier05:53
miyakosince there won't be nearly as much stuff that needs to get ported over05:54
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lunitikmiyako: Thats pretty much why Cygwin was created.... as an entry point  :)05:54
Dr_willisIve been putting XMING (ximg?) some X server.. on my window box's05:54
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Dr_willisthat + putty, lets me run apps on the linux box and see them on my windows box. heh.. they dont look bad either05:54
miyakoI wish my net connection was faster05:55
miyakorunning X apps remotely is painful at work because of my home connection05:55
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unix_infidelDr_willis: you can do that with cygwin.05:55
miyakoalso, because the X app I work on from home is multimedia intensive, and remote X isn't so good at that05:55
lunitikmiyako: even via xnest? it has almost no overhead05:55
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Dr_willisunix_infidel,  thats the old way. :P05:56
unix_infidelits an xorg port too, not a bastardized x11 server.05:56
unix_infidelerm, xfree *05:56
miyakolunitik, the biggest problem is I get horrible latency and have only like 128kbps upload from home05:56
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tlp__hmm it seems like my evdo is working05:56
miyakoand I'm usually running X to test my photo album application05:56
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unix_infideltlp__: on linux?  which device?05:57
tlp__on a sprint evdo card05:57
tlp__px-50005:57
miyakowell, I'm going to head off to bed05:57
unix_infidelnice, how much time setting it up?05:57
miyakonight all05:57
tlp__its about broadband speed05:57
tlp__unix_infidel: 2 minutes05:57
tlp__faster than setting it up in windows05:57
tlp__surprisingly05:57
unix_infideltlp__: how much for the gprs card?05:57
tlp__unix_infidel : free05:57
unix_infidelwith service?05:57
tlp__50 dollars with 50 dollar rebate05:58
tlp__yeah, costs 60 a month05:58
tlp__they make another one, merlin model that has gps05:58
unix_infidelyea, t-mobile is only 19 a month.05:58
tlp__you would have to hack it, but it would be worth it05:58
unix_infidelunlimited.05:58
tlp__i heard t-mobile is slow05:58
tlp__its 15 a month if you want to tether05:58
verbosein a list of found packages from aptitude search blah, what does it mean when the package has i A pkg-name           - pkg description? specifically, what does the A mean05:59
verboseand how do i update those packages?05:59
unix_infideltlp__: tether?05:59
tlp__unix_infidel : hook up a cellphone to it06:00
tlp__then use the cellphone as a modem06:00
unix_infideltlp__: that's free.06:01
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kamuihow do I run libc5 apps in ubuntu?06:01
tlp__unix_infidel: how fast is tmobile?06:01
lunitikkamui: you don't06:01
Dr_willislibc5 - isent that like real real real old?06:01
lunitikkamui: if you really must.... you can look into a chroot06:01
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unix_infideltlp__: you mean independently dialing in as a modem?06:02
unix_infidelmax you can get with that type of connection is 9.606:02
lunitikDr_willis: I believe its the old binary format before ELF... so yes06:02
lunitika.out!06:02
lunitikthats what its called!06:02
kamuilunitik: Im trying to run a dedicated quake1 server, but all the binaries are libc5, and sdlquake locks up when a client connects06:02
Dr_willisvmware and an install of an old disrto. :)06:02
Dr_willisI belive there are updated versions of Quake and the servers out.06:03
kamuibeen lookin06:03
tlp__unix_infidel : 9.6?06:03
Dr_willisnot the ones from ID.. but ones others have tweaked.06:03
kamuiill keep looking06:03
unix_infideltlp__: using your cell as a dialup modem max speed is at 9.6kilobits/s06:03
tlp__unix_infidel : how fast is internet with tmobile06:03
unix_infideltlp__: no idea, probably isdn+10 KB/s06:04
SperMiteok i just upgraded to edgy and im trying to get rid of the purplish kdm login, now i changed the kdm login to something else but the background still loads the purpleness behind the splash splash screen how do i change it?06:04
lunitikSperMite: Try the Background tab06:04
tlp__unix_infidel : this gets about 2Mbits06:05
tlp__kind of high latency though, about 150ms06:05
unix_infideltlp__: real or advertised speeds?06:05
tlp__advertised, real speed i see is 1mbit06:06
tlp__2mbit probably perfect condition06:06
SperMitelunitik what do you mean? like where i would go to change different backgrounds?06:06
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casev01hi06:06
lunitikSperMite: KControl > System Administration > Login Manager > Background ... change stuff06:06
unix_infideltlp__: then imho tmobile is the better value.  that's 3x cost for probably 1.5x-2x speed.06:07
unix_infidelunless this is mission critical bandwidth.06:07
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Dr_willisttyquake   - A perversion of Quake that renders the graphics in text mode.06:08
litropyanyone have more xgl mirrors?06:08
Dr_willis:) now thats amuzeing06:08
tlp__unix_infidel : what is tmobiles speed?06:08
lunitikSperMite: Don't ask me where that is in System Settings... I have no idea  :$06:08
Dr_willis!find quake06:09
ubotuFound: quake2, quake2-data06:09
tlp__794.2 kilobits per second06:09
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lunitikPlus, Distro's don't mess with the settings applet much... so it works out  :)06:09
DaSkreechDr_willis: quake2_data is open?06:10
unix_infideltlp__: probably about 60-7006:10
lunitik(just adding modules reallly... yay... more buttons to play with... no new interface to learn  (H) )06:11
casev01im trying to install the latest nvidia driver, but i have problems installing nvidia-kernel, i do it with the module-assistant from nvidia-kernel-source, but when i try to startx the sistem crash and say that canot load the kernel module06:11
litropyhmph. Maybe I don't need more mirrors06:11
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litropyhang on - I've got something to paste06:11
lunitikcasev01: thats not the Ubuntu way... they compile modules for you!06:11
SperMite=)06:12
lunitikcasev01: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic06:12
lunitik(not that there is much compiling involved... they're binary... but yeah)06:12
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  i THink thats some sort of installer for the data from the cd.06:12
Dr_willis!info quake2-data06:12
ubotuquake2-data: Installer for Quake II data files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 13 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 132 kB06:12
casev01i tried that, but  after installing i canot install the latest nvidia-glx06:12
casev01:(06:12
tlp__unix_infidel : that is about 10 times faster06:13
DaSkreechAh ok that's more sensible06:13
tlp__i rather pay more money for fastest speed06:13
unix_infideltlp__: your units are kbps mine are KB/s06:13
Dr_willisDaSkreech,  i never did finish Quake2 i think.,06:13
tlp__oh06:13
Dr_willisor Quake1 heh06:13
unix_infideldivide yours by ~806:13
tlp__then its slighly faster06:13
Dr_willisI rember a Co-Op quake2 mod  that i played ages ago.06:13
litropyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33068/06:14
DaSkreech though there are so many better quake2 mods other there now I don't know why one would bohter with Quake original06:14
DaSkreechUnless you haven't finished it :)06:14
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tlp__unix_infidel : how much is it for a card with tmobile?06:15
litropyideas?06:15
casev01it says nvidia-glx has broken dependencies06:15
unix_infidelno clue.06:15
casev01nvidia-glx: Depende: nvidia-kernel-1.0.962906:15
lunitiklitropy: what does your /etc/apt/sources.list say? (just paste the lines containing beerorkid and blutkind here... only two lines)06:16
verbosewould someone mind pasting their /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin or some such site?06:16
verbosei'm wondering if they differ from ubuntu and kubuntu06:17
Dr_willisHmm.. compiling a kde window decoration theme.. im thinming i need to tell ./configure some option to where to isntall the theme to.. but not sure what to tell it.06:17
Dr_willisanyone rember off hand?06:17
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litropylunitik, it's actually four06:17
verboseDr_willis: ./configure --help06:17
casev01someone knows where i can find that nvidia-kernel? in amarranth there is not06:17
lunitiklitropy: that SHOULD be ok... paste SLOWLY (one line at a time... probably kicks on flood here)06:18
litropydeb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz edgy main-edgy06:18
litropydeb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ edgy main-edgy06:19
casev01thanks, im going to try with that repos06:19
Dr_willisverbose,  right but the default for   --prefix= /usr/local/kde/ it seems.. so where should they be going. :) searching the filesystem now. heh06:19
litropydeb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz edgy main-edgy06:19
litropydeb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ edgy main-edgy06:19
litropythere you are06:19
casev01there are not :(06:21
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litropyideas, lunitik?06:22
lunitiklitropy: first looks correct.... weird... I'd tell you a hack... but someone would slap me  :$06:23
ubuntunew to linux have a few questions06:23
lunitikhttp://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/   <--- the release file exists.... and it seems to point at it....06:23
DaSkreechubuntu: Shoot06:23
ubuntucan i play games like splinter cell and shit?06:24
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lunitiklitropy: for shits... add a new line 'deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz edgy main-edgy binary-i386' and comment out the other two06:24
Admiral_Chicagodamn06:24
lunitik(stick a # infront so its not parsed)06:24
Admiral_Chicagosomeone want to give me ops06:24
litropyerm... I don't think I'm i38606:25
litropyI'm running a 1.8ghz g5 ppc06:25
JucatoO.o06:25
lunitiklitropy: use binary-ppc instead... thats listed06:25
litropyk06:25
lunitikhttp://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/main-edgy/06:25
Admiral_Chicagoi wanna update the topic...06:25
Admiral_Chicagohttp://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/11/beta_ii_the_audio_fix.html06:26
lunitikProof its Release file exists  http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-ppc/06:26
Admiral_ChicagoFlash Beta 206:26
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: thanks for the linkage!06:26
lunitikHopefully thats better on emulated 32bit... because I'm seeing the same sync issues as with flash7  :(06:27
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: what exactly did you want done? and on what topic?06:27
Admiral_Chicagoadd the Flash 9 Beta 2 link to the topic06:28
litropylunitik: am I putting edgy main-edgy after the url?06:28
lunitiklitropy: For what its worth... apparently the script points to binary-powerpc ... but the directory is binary-ppc ... that is the issue06:28
lunitiklitropy: yes... then 'binary-ppc' ... see if we can force it to do the right thing06:28
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: the Flash 9 factoid points to the official Flash 9 Beta download page, which is already updated to beta 2 anyway06:28
Admiral_Chicagoah cool06:29
Jucato!flash 9 | Admiral_Chicago06:29
ubotuAdmiral_Chicago: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html06:29
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: unless that "fix" isn't part of the official download06:29
Admiral_Chicagolet me check out some things06:30
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litropylunitik: I've got deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-ppc/ edgy main-edgy binary-ppc06:31
litropylook good?06:31
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: Seveas link has the Beta 106:31
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Admiral_Chicago9~beta1~seveas106:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yes, because he hasn't packaged beta 2 yet.06:31
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Jucatothat's beyond our control06:31
lunitiklitropy: yes... try apt-get update'ing again... I'm not saying it'll work though... just to see if it does...06:31
Admiral_Chicagoi know i know06:31
RawrnessRANDOM SPAM!06:31
litropyalright. be back06:31
Admiral_Chicagoi'm compiling it for myself06:31
crimsunmeh, beta 2?06:32
lunitiklitropy: if it doesn't, you'll need to contact the maintainer of that site and inform them of the issue  (a good idea either way)06:32
Jucatocrimsun: beta 2 for Flash 906:32
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: i'm having audio problems still so i'm glad this it out06:32
verbosewhen i enter my username and password in kdm i get a blue background, then the circle gnome cursor, then it dumps me back to kdm06:33
verboseis there a way to see any parts of gnome that are installed?06:33
Admiral_Chicagoverbose: you have a messed up Xorg06:33
verboseor a place to start looking for errors besides ~/.xsession-errors06:33
Admiral_ChicagoXorg.log06:33
verboselemme check it06:33
crimsunJucato: yes, I'm updating the source package now.06:33
lunitiklitropy: WAIT06:34
lunitiklitropy: you still around? I didn't even look at the URL when you showed me it  :@06:34
litropyyeah06:34
litropygot a paste for you06:34
Jucatocrimsun: ah. that will also update Seveas' repo?06:34
crimsunJucato: no, I maintain it for Ubuntu proper.06:35
Jucatoah nice :)06:35
lunitikgrrr... that was supposed to be 'deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ edgy main-edgy binary-ppc'06:35
lunitikI didn't notice your error in the URL till just now.... sorry06:35
litropyokay06:35
litropywhat do I do now06:35
litropyhere's the output06:35
litropyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33071/06:36
verboseAdmiral_Chicago: all i have is a couple of font path errors06:36
verbosewhich wouldn't cause this06:36
lunitiklitropy: Add that to /etc/apt/sources.list ... stick a '#' infront of the previous lines (they still won't work, this is a test) and sudo apt-get update06:36
verbosei just tried sudo startx06:36
verboseand it's loading kde06:36
verbosewtf06:36
litropyalright06:36
lunitiklitropy: meh... that didn't work at all... sorry06:37
Admiral_Chicagosudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm06:37
verbosegood call06:37
lunitiklitropy: Inform the site that their scripts point to the wrong directory on PPC... should be 'binary-ppc' not 'binary-powerpc' according to their directory structure06:37
lunitiklitropy: Thats all I can tell you really06:37
lunitiklitropy: nothing you did wrong though, entirely their error06:38
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verbosestill no luck06:38
verbosedoes the same thing06:38
litropyokay, should I run any commands to clean up?06:38
lunitikIts now pointing to 42. Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-ppc/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz  ... so its basically arguing with us  :(06:39
DaSkreechInkWell: Over here :)06:39
litropyif only I had another mirror, ya know06:40
lunitiklitropy: you should remove the line I told you, and apt-get update again.... sorry that didn't work  :(06:40
Admiral_Chicagoare you booting in recovery mode?06:40
litropythat would help, right?06:40
Admiral_Chicagohave you changed your system recently06:40
verboseAdmiral_Chicago: nope, normal mode06:40
verboseit's been a long time since i rebooted06:41
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verbosei've done several apt-get update && apt-get upgrades06:41
DaSkreechInkWell: Can You see me?06:41
InkWellyea06:41
DaSkreechOk cool06:41
InkWellthanks06:41
lunitiklitropy: the servers you're trying to get compiz/beryl from messed up their PPC scripts... theres nothing you can do other than find another source for the packages you want06:41
DaSkreech this is the main Kubuntu Channel06:41
DaSkreechnow what kind of games do you like?06:42
FreddyMverbose: did you update to edgy or anything?06:42
DaSkreechYou may want to read up on Linux games06:42
InkWellsplinter cell06:42
DaSkreech!games | InkWell06:42
ubotuInkWell: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org06:42
lunitikverbose: I didn't catch your issue... what was it?06:42
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verboseFreddyM: i did06:42
InkWelli can't play battlefield and shit?06:42
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DaSkreech!language06:43
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.06:43
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verboselunitik: i input user/pass in kdm, it goes to blank screen with gnome-like circle cursor, then returns me to kdm06:43
InkWelloops06:43
InkWellsorry06:43
DaSkreechSure06:44
DaSkreechUmm battelfield I'm not sure06:44
lunitikverbose: does 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE' return anything ?06:44
DaSkreechyou'd have to check cedega06:44
DaSkreech!cedega06:44
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega06:44
lunitikfwiw, Wine is doing pretty good on the DX front these days  :/06:44
verboselunitik: why not just grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:45
verbosesorry, pet peeve of mine06:45
FreddyMverbose: what type of card?06:45
lunitikverbose: cuz I like pipping things?  :P06:45
verboselunitik: :)06:45
verboselunitik: no errors btw06:45
FreddyMverbose: composite at all+06:45
verboseFreddyM: it's a geforce 7600gs06:46
verboseFreddyM: yeah, composite is enabled06:46
DaSkreechInkWell: So this is a live CD?06:46
InkWellis there any differnce in graphics?06:46
FreddyMverbose: okay let me pull up a link for you06:46
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DaSkreechlunitik: You know what that means :006:46
lunitikverbose: Care to try with it "Disable"d? Just to see if its the guilty party?06:46
verbosedoing so now06:46
DaSkreechlunitik: About time for a new DX just to mess them up :)06:46
InkWellyer06:46
verbosesame thing :(06:47
lunitikDaSkreech: They're about to release/already released 11 or 12.... 9 is pretty well supported though06:47
FreddyMverbose: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-upgrade-common-problems-with-solutions.html06:48
lunitikverbose: create a new user? (perhaps you have a corrupt ICEauthority / Xauthority)06:48
FreddyMthat may help06:48
FreddyMcheck your driver, it may be nv instead of nvidia06:48
verboseFreddyM: thanks06:48
DaSkreechInkWell: Well there are three ways you can move forward if you are really eager to use Linux and really dedicated to games :)06:49
verbosenope, does same for new user06:49
FreddyMverbose: new user?06:49
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lunitikverbose: If you get bored trying to figure out whats wrong.... remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority .... those are usually the guilty party when nothing else seems wrong06:50
InkWellDaSkreech: it's a live cd, i'm affraid of messing up my hdd and loosing  my stuff. my stuff is partitioned wierd06:50
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lunitikverbose: (both in your home dir)06:50
lunitikverbose: trying with a different user would let you know whether it is a localized issue, in which case *authority is probably why... if not... then its something with X itself06:51
DaSkreechInkWell: ha ha :)06:51
DaSkreechInkWell: I find it's much better for your mind if you find a 20GB hard drive and use it for the sole purpose of running Linux :)06:52
InkWelli've done it too many times06:52
InkWellgood idea06:52
FreddyMarg, anyone get get flash player working in FX, i'm still getting no sound06:52
DaSkreechMuch harder to screw up your stuff till you get used to the two worlds06:52
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InkWellvery different worlds they are06:53
DaSkreechInkWell: now what kind of games do you like?06:53
InkWellright now i'm hooked on double agent06:53
InkWellbut my 360 controller is messed up06:53
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DaSkreechHi noiesmo Whats up?06:54
InkWellscarface, WOW, battlefield06:54
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lunitikIMO its not so different though06:54
DaSkreechWell WOW is the only one I know for sure works on Linux :)06:54
lunitikBattlefield and WOW have linux versions afaik06:54
noiesmoDaSkreech, hey not much really just relaxin06:54
DaSkreechlunitik: Not LInux Versions they work on Linux06:55
DaSkreechSlight difference06:55
lunitikScarface is pretty knew, so unlikely it'll work anytime soon06:55
noiesmoDaSkreech, upgrade my system to edgy with aiglx and beryl on latest nvidia drivers running quite nicely06:55
DaSkreechUnreal 2007 has a LInux version06:55
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DaSkreechI thought you had multiple systems?06:55
InkWelli saw that, any improvments running WOW in linux?06:55
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lunitikI have 3 around the house... Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and XP  :/06:56
DaSkreechWell unless it's supported it's always going to be a hack06:56
lunitikInkWell: Don't have to touch the Windows box!06:56
DaSkreech it works but WOW servers can pick it up as a bot running since they can't detect windows calls (obviously)06:56
DaSkreechlunitik: You aren't hooked on Double agent :)06:56
DaSkreechInkWell: You can use Linux and only reboot into Windows for Games but I always find that a bit silly06:57
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DaSkreech7 Gb for a whole OS06:57
DaSkreech55+ GBs for games under windows :)06:57
Admiral_Chicagoverbose: any luck?06:57
lunitikIf they had you killing things the whole time... that'd be a different story  (H)06:57
DaSkreechlunitik: Try Serious Sam06:57
InkWellI like to "zone out" if you will and kill stuff06:57
lunitikDaSkreech: It run on Linux?06:58
DaSkreechSerious Sam 1 might06:58
DaSkreechtwo was a directX showcase as far as I know06:58
noiesmoDaSkreech, not serious sam thats mad havent playit in ages06:58
verboseok, this is very curious...i just uninstalled kdm and installed gdm...AND IT WORKS06:58
noiesmoDaSkreech, does it play thru wine ok06:58
DaSkreechInkWell: You could get a PS3 and install Linux on it >_M06:58
verboseloads kde fine06:58
crimsunJucato: uploaded.06:58
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Not sure look it up on winehq06:59
Jucatocrimsun: that was fast. :)06:59
InkWelli read about that, someone put fedora on it06:59
DaSkreechI'm guessing it's a good bet06:59
noiesmoDaSkreech, no you mentioned it you look it up lol06:59
DaSkreechInkWell: Yeah they have a install Linux button in it :)06:59
Admiral_Chicagoverbose: gdm...blah06:59
DaSkreechnoiesmo: Too late :-P06:59
verboseAdmiral_Chicago: that's very odd though, don't you think?07:00
casev01dam, i canot find the nvidia-kernel07:00
Admiral_Chicagocrimsun: sweet07:00
verboseit's got to be kdm somehow07:00
InkWellthat was another linux i tried, the whole typing commands in seems to be a bit much for me though07:00
verbosebut i dpkg-reconfigure'd it07:00
verboseso it should be defaults07:00
verbose/shrug07:00
Admiral_Chicagoverbose: yea i was going to suggest aptitude purge && sudo apt-get install kdm07:00
Admiral_Chicagowell it works now07:00
DaSkreechInkWell: It's not as bad as all that :)07:01
InkWellnew things scare me07:01
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InkWellseems intimidating07:01
DaSkreechso why aren't you playing solitare? :-)07:01
lunitikInkWell: Good thing its not a new thing then? people been typing on command lines since the 40's  :)07:01
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InkWellfor me it is07:02
lunitikInkWell: When you get it down, you'll wonder why you ever put up with GUI annoyances for some things07:02
DaSkreechInkWell: It's just like the Doom3 drop down console :)07:02
lunitikI type like 85wpm... takes less time to type a one-liner than browsing through 10 menus  :/07:02
lunitikThere are things GUI's are better at.... but many tasks, CLI is much better suited to07:03
InkWellwell, with helpful people like yourselfs should figure this out07:03
DaSkreechHa ha You know WOW is huge when Cedega has it on teh front page07:03
DaSkreechInkWell: please come back anytime you want07:03
InkWellthanks guys07:04
lunitikInkWell: You picked the best distribution to ease in  :)07:04
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lunitikIts Debian under the hood, so you know its powerful and can pretty much do anything.... but Ubuntu devs aim to make it as easy as possible....07:05
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InkWelli just gotta set it up so i'm not running off this cd07:05
lunitikIf you want to learn everything you can, if you don't... you shouldn't have to... will be even better next release, finally implementing simple ways to install binary things (codecs, plugins, drivers, etc)07:06
DaSkreechInkWell: Well if you want you can try stuff out until you get the heard drive to play with07:06
DaSkreechlunitik: is that what that is?07:06
lunitikInkWell: Why? Get comfy once in a while with the LiveCD... play a little... and get a feel for things  :)07:06
DaSkreech I thought they were shipping with the nasty things07:06
InkWelltrue07:06
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DaSkreechnoiesmo: Funny part message :)07:07
InkWellone of my hdd is all mp3 and bootleg stuff, will it overwrite all of it?07:07
lunitikDaSkreech: they are going to make it possible for fetching of printer drivers, any kind of file that isn't supported, but CAN be, it'll ask the user whether they want to install an app for it...07:07
DaSkreechInkWell: Nope07:07
noiesmoDaSkreech, whats that --> Funny part message :)07:08
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DaSkreechWhat about Beryl by default?07:08
DaSkreechnoiesmo has left this server ("Bye All - - - Free yourself with GNU/Linux").07:08
lunitikInkWell: you can resize things... the Kubuntu CD's have QTparted on them07:08
noiesmoDaSkreech, you like that not bad hahah07:08
InkWellQTparted?07:09
lunitikInkWell: (think almost like Partition Magic... allows you to resize partitions....)07:09
DaSkreechInkWell: Press Alt+Space07:09
InkWellslingshot07:10
DaSkreechThey ype qtp and press enter07:10
DaSkreechThen type qtp07:10
DaSkreechnoiesmo: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=252707:10
lunitikInkWell: It will even detect and set it up so you can dual boot... like without much interaction from you....07:10
InkWellcool07:11
InkWellhere goes07:11
DaSkreechInkWell: do you have the space to install ?07:11
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InkWellyea07:11
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DaSkreechIt's a good idea :)07:11
InkWellsda.....SATA???07:11
lunitikDaSkreech: Thats why we just got onto the subject of QTparted07:12
Admiral_ChicagoInkWell: yes07:12
lunitikInkWell: yes07:12
noiesmoDaSkreech, thanks man I am looking at subscribe to transgame after xmas07:12
DaSkreechneeds to play warlords07:12
lunitiknoiesmo: I'd recommend TRYING it with plain old Wine.... just to see... although if Cedega is struggling to get it work, not really likely.... worth a try though  :)07:13
noiesmolunitik, ok thanks was getting cedega for BF1942 it works well tried time demo's runns as well as in windows07:14
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InkWellthanks guys, gonna backupup and install. Hope i don't screw something up07:16
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DaSkreechlunitik: Well I think that if they are succesful it'll prove more people will pay for good games on Linux and more devs will consider it07:16
lunitikInkWell: just make sure you don't remove /dev/sda1 AT ALL, and it'll be hard to mess up  :)07:17
noiesmolunitik, the way I understood it was 3 months min so only 15$ to get07:17
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lunitiknoiesmo: not a bad deal at all... I'd probably have given them far more if they had different business practices, that's all07:18
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lunitikBeing able to show my Step Dad some Windows games running on Linux would be $$$07:19
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lunitikThey didn't even used to do timed trials though... so maybe I'd check it out again, if I find a game thats worth while07:19
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Healotlunitik: your familia are gamers?07:20
Admiral_Chicagolunitik: i show off composite and people really like it07:20
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lunitikHealot: Step Father.. yes07:20
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Healotyou, lunitik?07:20
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: ATI Radeon Xpress, no DRI support  :(07:20
lunitikHealot: naw07:21
malandrovjs<Admiral_Chicago> How are you?07:21
lunitikHealot: I've been known to bury myself into BZFlag with friends, but thats about it07:21
Healotbzflag eh; i am a penguin then07:22
lunitikHAD an X550, but it overheated the machine pretty bad  :(07:22
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Admiral_Chicagomalandrovjs: i'm well07:22
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Admiral_Chicagolunitik: i have yet to play it07:22
lunitikHealot: It has decent graphics.... basically capture the flag with tanks.... not too bad...07:23
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Healoti love 3D games, like ppracer and that netdoom clones07:24
lunitikNever heard of PPRacer... you talking about Falcons Eye though?07:24
lunitikNetHack frontend...07:24
HealotFeye07:25
Healotthat's the one07:25
HealotPlanet Penguin Racer.07:25
Healotfunny/stupid slide downhill penguin racing game07:25
lunitikIf its not in Debian's archives, I've probably never played it.... I usually 'apt-cache search games' whenever I'm really bored07:26
lunitikahhh... TuxRacer!07:26
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lunitikI didn't know they renamed that?07:27
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lunitikI guess they renamed when they ported to Windows or something? Weird07:28
DaSkreechNo I think it's a fork07:28
billytwowillyso I just followed the instructions linked off the main page of kubuntu to upgrade my server. Anything else I should do before I reboot?07:28
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DaSkreech they guys who did Tuxracer changed the licesnse or something and it forked and became ppracer?07:29
Quinn_StormI have what is apparently the dreaded no-screensaver bug07:29
lunitikbillytwowilly: any binary blobs in your system?07:29
Quinn_Stormkde screensavers setup & test fine but never actually launch07:29
billytwowillylunitik: nvidia07:29
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Quinn_Stormcan anyone help?07:29
billytwowillylunitik: but I put in the repository with the updated drivers.07:29
billytwowillylunitik: there is a software raid 5 array.. I'd like to keep that;)07:30
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: you of all people?07:30
Quinn_Stormyep, me of all people07:30
Admiral_ChicagoI just get a big X07:30
DaSkreechHi Quinn_Storm07:30
lunitikbillytwowilly: should be fine then.... if you don't customize things... make sure you install 'kubuntu-desktop' again though (if you remove big things, no need)07:30
Quinn_Stormthe error even happens in totally vanilla kde, kwin, etc.07:30
Admiral_Chicagoi'm looking at you LP page atm Quinn_Storm07:30
Quinn_StormLP? my LP page is probably empty07:30
Quinn_Stormunless someone else edite dit07:30
JucatoO_O Quinn Storm is in here?!?!07:30
Quinn_Stormlol hi07:31
DaSkreechJucato: Same reaction as me but I just typed hi :)07:31
Quinn_StormI'm just a regular person with regular issues :-p07:31
billytwowillyQuinn_Storm: should I point to your repository or beryl if I want to set that up?07:31
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DaSkreechbillytwowilly: let him get help first :-)07:31
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Hobbseehey Quinn_Storm07:31
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HobbseeQuinn_Storm: rubbish.  you make beryl.07:31
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billytwowillyheh. I'm rebooting. wish me luck.07:31
Jucatoeveryone! scramble to help Quinn_Storm!!07:31
Jucatoheheh07:31
lunitikQuinn_Storm: I fixed it by simply actually choosing a screen saver.... ifs its the same bug in Sid atm07:31
DaSkreechQuinn_Storm: Rumour has it that it's a DPM issue07:31
Quinn_Stormbillytwowilly: for beryl, start at www.beryl-project.org ... I'm not the ubuntu packager...and, DaSkreech , I'm a woman :-P07:31
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Quinn_Stormlunitik: I did pick one...it didn't work07:32
Quinn_StormDaSkreech: interesting...turn it on? off?07:32
Quinn_Stormsideways?07:32
Quinn_StormHobbsee: well thank you07:32
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: steip?07:32
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Admiral_Chicagoset up?07:32
Quinn_Stormhmm, Admiral_Chicago ?07:32
DaSkreechQuinn_Storm: I normally follow that up with assuming Quinn_Storm is a man :)07:32
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billytwowillyQuinn_Storm: I don't recollect saying you were a dude... but cheers;)07:32
billytwowillyI'm rebooting into edgy for the first time.07:32
billytwowillywish me luck;)07:32
Quinn_StormI said that to DaSkreech , billytwowilly07:32
HobbseeQuinn_Storm: i'd at least check if beryl's the culprit @ the screensaver not coming into effect07:33
billytwowillyoh sorry. was in the same line;)07:33
billytwowillyanyhoo, cheers;)07:33
lunitikQuinn_Storm: ahh... I'd thank you for Beryl too... but it just made me sad that I'm stuck with ATI drivers  :(07:33
Quinn_StormHobbsee: I'm running right now pure X, kwin, no beryl07:33
Quinn_Stormlunitik: aww07:33
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: what is your set up? card? DE? Release07:33
HobbseeQuinn_Storm: ahhh.  which kde, and which release?07:33
DaSkreechHa ha :)07:33
Quinn_Stormedgy eft pure, i91507:34
DaSkreechJucato: wonder why Quinn_Storm doesn't turn up here lots?07:34
lunitik(Radeon Xpress 200G ..... bah... apparently they do funky things for shared mem  :/  )07:34
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Quinn_StormI often stay away from #ubuntu/#kubuntu b/c they are SO busy07:34
Jucatoit's not always this busy in here07:34
Hobbseehrm.  kde screensavers are working in 3.5.5, to my knowledge07:34
DaSkreech#kubuntu is normally sleepy07:34
DaSkreechHobbsee: Not here07:34
Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: mine isn't. Edgy, beryl/XGL/ 3.5.507:35
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HobbseeAdmiral_Chicago: ouch07:35
Hobbseedo they work under a new profile?07:36
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Quinn_Stormhmm I should try that...07:36
Jordan_UQuinn_Storm, Sure it isn't, just trying to cover yourself I'm sure ;)07:36
Quinn_Storm:-P07:36
Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: no idea i'm looking at my settings now07:36
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Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: KDE 3.5.5?07:38
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Quinn_Stormyeah, edgy eft07:38
DaSkreechQuinn_Storm: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/13/211225907:38
Quinn_Stormcool yeah I was there for that07:38
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Quinn_Stormlike I said I'm mtf tg...and was lazy at UDS07:39
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: is this your error? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/6739107:39
Admiral_Chicagoi get that07:39
Admiral_Chicagolet me comemnt on the LP page07:39
Quinn_Stormyeah thats basically it, tho its almost always just blank07:40
Admiral_Chicagosame here07:40
noiesmo_anyone help with this (EE) Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm07:40
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chris_so, let's pretend I just booted into edgy for the first time and I don't have anything around my windows with the close and minimize button on them and I can't type into the windows. What should I do?07:42
Quinn_Stormum...shout at the devs about why {metacity|kwin} crashed?07:43
chris_Ok, but how would I get that to start up again?07:43
Quinn_Stormits not easy07:43
chris_I'm in kde..07:43
Quinn_Stormok...log out & back in07:43
chris_did that already, same problem.07:43
Quinn_Stormok...that's juts bizarre07:44
noiesmo_chris_, you beryl07:44
chris_not that I know of.. should be default edgy.07:44
Quinn_Stormnoiesmo_: no its a fresh edgy install, no beryl07:44
Quinn_Stormso this means kwin is crashing for some reason07:44
noiesmo_ok07:44
Quinn_Stormwhich is weird07:44
chris_it seems fine till windows from the previous install start up. ie. a konqu window that is full screen with  a webpage I was at while installing.07:44
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: does the test of the screensaver work/07:44
chris_it's shockingly similar to problems I had with compiz...07:45
Quinn_Stormyes, Admiral_Chicago07:45
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: hmm same here07:45
Admiral_Chicagolet me change my screensaver and see if that helps07:45
Quinn_StormI tried that, no luck here07:46
chris_wee! I have borders again;)07:46
chris_I put a script on my desktop that had kwin in it then clicked it;)07:46
Quinn_Stormlol07:47
noiesmo_now put it in kde/Autostart07:47
chris_any way to see what kde is trying to startup at the beginning and changing that?07:47
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noiesmo_would sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg affect keymap error I have in Xorg.0.log07:48
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Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: it fails as well07:49
brettHello all07:50
Quinn_Stormyeah I figured as much, Admiral_Chicago07:50
chris_samsamson07:50
Admiral_Chicagowell then i feel like confirming this bug, do you have any idea how to replicate it?07:50
Quinn_Storminstall edgy, try to use kde screensavers?07:50
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Quinn_Stormanyway...I'll brb, relogging just to check07:51
brettFor some reason my internet has been really slow since i install linux... could that be because of a poor driver for my network card?07:51
unix_infidelbrett: devine really slow?07:52
unix_infideldefine*07:52
brettunix_infidel: 5 to fifteen seconds to dl what would take half a second to 3 seconds on windows07:52
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unix_infidelbrett: i doubt linux has anything to do with it.07:53
brettwhat do you think is causing it?07:54
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unix_infidelwhat kinda connection.07:54
brettdsl07:54
brettgames and irc chat seem to be running just as faster or possibly faster07:55
unix_infidelit could be a lot of things, could be that traffic is high on your node, could be that you need to reset the modem, linux usually doesnt have much do to with bandwidth speeds.07:55
brettjust web browsing07:55
Quinn_Stormgrr, this screensaver thing is pissing me off07:55
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unix_infidelbrett: it could be your choice of browser too.07:55
brettfirefox07:56
Quinn_Stormok...relaunching kdesktop seems to have fixed it07:56
Quinn_Stormo_O07:56
unix_infidelbrett: well, firefox and IE dont really compare...so no its not your interface driver.07:56
brettunix_infidel: i was using firefox on windows as well07:56
Quinn_Stormkillall kdesktop;kdesktop07:56
Quinn_Stormthta's all I did and suddenly it works07:56
Quinn_Stormwtf07:56
unix_infidelbrett: like i said, windows firefox and linux firefox dont really compare.07:56
unix_infideleither.07:56
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: really?07:56
Admiral_Chicagolet me try that07:56
brettunix_infidel: linux firefox is better?07:56
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Quinn_Stormtho I'd advise against using a GL screensaver with beryl...07:57
unix_infidelbrett: I'm not quite sure which one is better.  I can honestly say they dont compare.07:57
Quinn_Stormcomposite+GL often breaks07:57
Admiral_ChicagoI leaved that already07:57
Quinn_Stormespecially on cards like the i91507:57
brettunix_infidel: ok thanks07:57
unix_infidelTwo totally different memory management systems to start off with, the binaries are built totally different.07:57
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noiesmo_ok I gotta ask as I don't know I seem to be logged in twice here how do I log out without closing xchat ??07:58
Quinn_Stormnoiesmo_: the other 'you' is a ghost07:58
noiesmo_can I get rid of it or it'll just go away07:59
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unix_infidelnoiesmo_: /msg nickserv help ghost07:59
noiesmo_unix_infidel, cheers07:59
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Admiral_Chicagono same thing07:59
Quinn_Stormweird07:59
Admiral_ChicagoGL screensaver or not08:01
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Quinn_StormAdmiral_Chicago: I'm using a GL screensaver08:01
Admiral_Chicagohmm, well maybe https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/6739108:02
Admiral_Chicagoyou can add some feedback to the bug08:02
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Quinn_Stormso oh well, I added feedback to the bug...anyway, not going anywhere any time soon08:10
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Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: nixternal says it these two bugs as well08:11
Admiral_Chicagohttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/7099108:11
Admiral_Chicagohttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13707008:11
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Quinn_Stormweird08:12
nixternalya, all of my kubuntu >=6.10 installs bork with the big white x08:13
Quinn_Stormyeah its just not good08:13
Quinn_Stormanyhow08:13
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nixternali seen where someone said it is from disabling power, and i have one machine i haven't disabled power and it does it anyways..i would like to point the blame at guidance, but can't 100% just yet08:14
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Quinn_StormI don't know *what* to blame08:14
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Admiral_Chicagonixternal: guidance may be it08:16
Quinn_Stormwhat is guidance?08:16
nixternalthe new power management module for kde08:16
Quinn_Stormah ok08:17
nixternal/kubuntu08:17
Quinn_Stormright08:17
Quinn_Stormwell edgy is supposed to be...edgy08:17
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Jucatokde-guidance-powermanager08:17
nixternalheh, well when you find soemthing edgy let me know ;p08:17
billytwowillylol. holy memory leak in flash player 9 batman...08:17
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: where can i find kcontrol > 'display settings'?08:17
Quinn_StormI haven't been able to make flash 9 work at all08:17
Quinn_Stormwell08:18
Quinn_Stormstrike that08:18
Quinn_Stormit almost works08:18
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: KMenu > System Settings08:18
Quinn_Stormbut keeps losing control of /dev/audio (using no dsp wrapper)08:18
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: System Settings -> Monitor & Display08:18
nixternalAdmiral_Chicago: or you can 'Alt+F2 > kcontrol 'Enter'08:18
Admiral_ChicagoQuinn_Storm: my system doesn't play sound08:18
Quinn_Stormthen why do you even need flash? :-P08:19
Admiral_Chicagonixternal: i'm in kcontrol but not finding display settings08:19
Quinn_Stormhomestarrunner.com is the only excuse for flash...well that and youtube08:19
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: is it possible that you don't have kde-guidance installed?08:19
nixternalwhy kcontrol?08:19
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nixternalwhy not system settings08:19
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: if you're in KControl, it should be under Peripherals. In System Settings, it's in the Computer Administration group08:20
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no i have it08:20
nixternalKControl > Peripherals > Monitor & display08:20
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JucatoAlt+F2, "kcmshell diplayconfig"08:21
Quinn_Stormthat is 'displayconfig'08:22
Jucatoer.. sorry for the typo :)08:22
Admiral_Chicago"An error occured during the last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module"08:22
Quinn_Stormthat's not good08:22
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: hm.. try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance then try looking again in System Settings/KControl08:23
Admiral_Chicagoactually: "the module Monitor & Dispaly could not be loaded"08:23
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: try reinstalling kde-guidance08:24
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: running now08:24
Jucatook08:24
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Admiral_Chicagodo i need to start X?08:25
Jucatono08:25
Jucatocheck System Settings again (or KControl)08:25
Admiral_Chicagosame thing08:25
Jucatostill won't show up? that's strange08:26
Admiral_ChicagoPossible Reasons: "An error occured during the last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module" or "You have old third party modules lying around"08:26
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malandrovjsWho knows what I can do with this: /tmp/Prentice. Hall.PTR. The.Official.Ubuntu.Book.Aug.200.eBook-BBL-1.torrent could no be opened, because the associated helper application does not exist. Change the association in your preferences08:34
abattoirmalandrovjs: open it with KTorrent08:35
malandrovjsOK08:35
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=9092937ed46e7fa75222ff3431beaf07&t=285266&page=2 can you help me fix it?08:36
Admiral_Chicagoi think this thread is a work around08:36
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I'm not really sure how I can help.08:39
Admiral_Chicagodang, neither do i know08:40
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not intuned to Python08:40
Admiral_Chicagothanks a ton08:40
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|velle|hallo08:42
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: sorry08:42
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Admiral_Chicagoit's all good, thanks yor your help08:44
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nixternalmalandrovjs: the ubuntu book is also available via html at https://help.ubuntu.com08:49
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mastrohello everybody09:01
mastroi've lost the link to shell in my kubuntu09:01
mastrocan anyone help me?09:02
mastroi cannot run it anyway09:02
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vellemastro: can you open it via /usr/bin/konsole ?09:05
mastroyes thanks a lot09:06
mastrobut if i want the same link in my menu program09:07
mastroas before?09:07
mastroi don't know how it was losted09:07
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JackPhilhowto refresh the K-menu after i  edit the config file manullay?09:08
velleright click the KDE menu, chose Menu Editor09:08
JucatoJackPhil: kbuildsycoca --incremental (ignore the "no database" errors)09:08
velleCreate a new "item" in the proper folder (before it was in System)09:08
vellemastro: and in the Command field just type: "konsole", because there is a symbolic link from konsole to /usr/bin/konsole09:09
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vellemastro: have to run, hope you worked it out09:13
mastrothanks a lot velle09:14
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JackPhilthanks Jucato09:15
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malandrovjsI`m trying to wacht a movie but I get this Error:Totem could not play 'file:///home/londo4/Desktop/movie/Crash (2005).avi'.,,Video codec 'XviD' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies09:17
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malandrovjsWhat can I do to make it work?09:17
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Admiral_Chicago!restricted09:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:31
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Admiral_Chicagomalandrovjs: look for avi on the restricted page09:31
Admiral_Chicagogood luck09:31
Admiral_Chicagonight09:31
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krautcould anybody please tell my, why my CRT in this config won't use 85 hz?09:40
krauthttp://home.packetloss.biz/~fek/temp/xorg.conf09:40
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kamui|srvIm trying to host a website on my ubuntu system, but outside connections cant connect to it even though I've forwarded ports 80 and 81 to the box, is there some kind of firewall that a standard dapper install installs?09:44
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teledyn__kamui|srv: how do you know they can't connect?  did you try tcpdump?09:54
blank2hi all09:54
blank2no09:54
mslhi blank209:54
blank2hi msl09:54
kamui|srvteledyn__: Im talking to a friend who Im trying to get to connect09:55
kamui|srvhe times out09:55
kamui|srvI've also tried my HTC Universal09:55
kamui|srvit times out09:55
kamui|srvError 502 - Bad Request09:55
blank2times out??\09:55
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teledyn__kamui|srv: monitor the port on the box with tcpdump and verify no connection is coming in09:56
teledyn__kamui|srv: or use netcat09:57
teledyn__tcpdump will give better info09:58
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kamui|srvdamn, I don't see web traffic, only irc traffic10:00
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kamui|srvso its not even getting in10:00
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dennisterhi ppls10:01
teledyn__kamui|srv: there you go10:01
dennisteranyone know how to edit the buffer in nano?10:01
kamui|srvtnx for the time teledyn__10:01
dennisteri take it some sort of buffer is pretty important for pretty well any system file you write10:02
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banjooieAlright, I have killedmy X server attempting to upgrade to Edgy. Can anyone help?10:05
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dennistera little out of my league, but u could try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:07
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banjooieI've attempted that, it says xserver-xorg is broken.10:07
banjooieAs I understood from kubuntu.org, I was supposed to upgrade by changing sources.list to read 'edgy' instead of 'dapper', right?10:07
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dennisterwell, like i said: a bit out of my league, sorry...yes to ur last question banjooie10:08
dennisteri've heard a lot of people say that, anyway, and very reputable sources, too10:09
banjooieAlright. I did that, then it started whining, after I updated, that kio_slave wasn't functioning. I then rebooted, thinking 'well, I've just upgraded my ENTIRE OPERATING SYSTEM, rebooting couldn't hurt. I then couldn't get back into Xserver, and it claimed that it couldn't connect, or something. Thanks for trying.10:09
dennister<--did a clean install of edgy, and is still a noob10:09
banjooieYeah, I'm...tempted at this point to consider burning another CD. I just started, like, a month ago.10:09
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dennisterI'm trying to write a rules page, lol...and no lirc.rules page in the src contrib directory10:10
dennisterbanjooie: I would strongly suggest it, as I learned so much the second and third time10:10
lilducklingthose updates don't work too well10:11
banjooieYeah.10:11
dennisterwhen xerver's gone...10:11
banjooieYou know, I can kinda understand why linux doesn't really appeal to the mainstream sometimes. <_<10:11
lilducklingi did the same update from badger to dapper, and although i somehow got it to work, it doesn't look the same as a new dapper10:11
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dennisteryes...l really like the learning, and becoming a geek, but it's not for everyone10:11
Jucato!upgrade10:12
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:12
dennisterhi jucato :)10:12
Jucatohi dennister :)10:12
banjooieYeah. It's scary how non-user friendly this stuff is at times.10:12
dennisterevery system file u write needs a buffer, right?10:12
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crimsunanyone running feisty/amd64?10:14
dennisterexactly...every time you turn around its a complex learning curve to write one file10:14
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Lynourecrimsun: try on #ubuntu+1 ?10:14
banjooieI think the main trouble is it doesn't actually explain anywhere what you're supposed to do with it once you get it running.10:14
dennisternot me... have finally given up on 64-bit os's10:14
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dennistervery true, and documentation always leaves lots to be desired...like missing whole sections10:15
banjooiewell, the documentation is actually pretty good10:15
banjooieit's just...written for computer literate people10:15
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dennisteraha! i don't have to put the src info into the buffer anyway10:17
dennister<---trying to write a udev rule10:17
JucatoO.o10:18
dennisterjucato: ready to hold my hand while i write this sucker? lol10:18
JucatoI know squat about udev :P10:18
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dennisterit's ok...i think i'll be ok10:19
JucatoI hope you will :P10:19
dennisterI was just very confused about the nano buffer...i can make one now it seems...have done it b4 apparently when I got my scanner working10:19
dennisterbut it was just copy and paste into a new file10:19
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edgyHi, I installed beryl and has some problems that I want now a normal kde so I removed the beryl script from  /usr/share/xsessions/ but still when I log into kde I see the beryl logo, how can I get rid of it?10:22
edgyI don't have anything on .kde/Autostart10:22
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dennister<----has no experience with this beryl stuff10:26
dennisterbut you might want to see the login sections and session management10:27
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dennisternow, has anyone compiled lirc modules from source?10:27
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dennisteri could really use someone to look something up10:28
malandrovjsI don`t have to much hda space, I want to move some file to windows partition10:29
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dennisteris your ntfs partition writable? do u have ntfsprogs?10:29
gemidjyanyone/where Kaffeine 0.8.2 package for Dapper ?10:29
malandrovjshow can use ntfsprogs?10:30
malandrovjsor where can I find ntfsprogs?10:30
dennisterquite frankly, I'm not sure, but I was told i needed it to be able to utilize my windows partitions10:31
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dennister!ntfsprogs10:31
ubotuntfsprogs: tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-1 (edgy), package size 205 kB, installed size 532 kB10:31
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malandrovjsI want move some files like movies to windows partion10:32
dennistermalandrovjs: download the program from synaptic or adept...then you may, after some tweaking of ur fstab, do just that10:32
malandrovjsOk10:33
dennisterbbs10:34
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malandrovjsdennister: ntfsprogs in Adept is installed10:38
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malandrovjsdo I need also ntfstools?10:39
malandrovjsdennister::::: do I need also ntfstools?10:39
dennisterok, now go to System Settings--->Advanced--->Disks and Filesystems and sign in as administrator10:39
dennisterI'm not sure about ntfstools...can't hurt...10:40
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malandrovjsthere is no Advanced in my system Settings10:41
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JucatoDapper or Edgy?10:42
malandrovjsOnly Disk & filesystems10:42
malandrovjsDapper10:42
Jucatoah there10:42
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tibbari can't log into edgy-desktop's normal mode i have to use safe mode can some one tell me why? (there just comes this green line on my screen)10:43
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malandrovjsdennister:::<> I`m there10:44
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malandrovjsI`m in administrator signin10:44
dennisterok...now select the dev and hit modify10:45
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malandrovjsthe windows one, or kubuntu?10:45
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banjooieAlright!10:46
banjooieThat's what the hell happened.10:46
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banjooieNever removing my goddamn kubuntu-desktop package AGAIN10:46
dennisterthe windows partition...u can right-click it to get modify10:46
tibbarwhat is the differance between safe graphics mode and nomral?10:47
banjooieoptional my beaver-buggering jesusmcpogosticking baldheaded christ on a ape-sodomizing baguette it's optional.10:47
dennistertibbar: with safe graphics mode nothing gets installed except in ram10:47
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malandrovjsyes I did it but any information10:47
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dennisterat the very top of the new dialog box you probably see automatic, right?10:48
tibbardennister: isn't it allways like that?10:48
dennistertibbar: i take it ur new to linux and kubuntu?10:48
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dennisternormal is a normal install to the harddrive10:48
tibbardennister: not realy just new to ati10:48
dennistersorry if ur not new, tibbar10:49
dennisterohhhh...sorry, the people who don't know what safe graphics mode are are usually windows-only people10:50
tibbardennister: ok, thats weard because in dapper i hade to use safe gfx mode or else it wouldn't start up the livecd and now it edgy both doesn't work for me10:50
malandrovjsafter hit modify no nw box appear10:50
tibbardennister:  np10:50
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dennistermalandrovjs: OK what do u see in the columns mount point and type?10:51
dennisteror are they empty?10:51
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malandrovjsmount Point is there is nothing10:53
malandrovjsthey are empty10:53
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malandrovjsonly bij kubuntu partition there is / by mount and by type; ext310:54
dennisterok, well u really should select the windows partition with the mouse, and right-click, select modify, and u definitely should get a dialog box10:54
randlerunable to lookup **** via gethostbyname() <-- anyone who knows how to deal with this?10:54
dennistermalandrovjs: u don't see another partition.drive for windows?10:55
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malandrovjsI see al of them10:55
bart_danish host10:56
dennisterwell then, malandrovjs: one more time: select the windows partition with the mouse, and right-click, select modify, and u definitely should get a dialog box10:56
malandrovjsbut I can`t get the dialog box after hitting modify on windows partition10:56
malandrovjson linux well10:56
bart_ok10:56
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dennisterwell then it's beyond me I'm afraid...forgotten how to edit the /etc/fstab by hand now that I have edgy installed here10:57
tibbarin dapper i hade to use safe gfx mode or else it wouldn't start up the livecd and now it edgy both doesn't work for me what can i do?10:57
malandrovjsI get the modify dialog box only on linux, on windows nothing it desn`t appear10:57
gemidjyanyone/where Kaffeine 0.8.2 package for Dapper ?10:57
Admiral_Chicago!fstab10:57
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions10:57
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dennisteri used to do it often in dapper, but edgy adds some things I don't understand just yet10:58
gemidjyedgy s*cks10:58
gemidjyskip it10:58
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Admiral_Chicagowell Edgy isn't LTS for a reason11:00
tibbar'tibbar; ping' me if someone can solve my problem11:00
sevendennister: how can i make the win pat writeable if i get the modify box?11:00
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onurcan some1 help me i can't install enythink (kubuntu)11:01
gemidjyargh engrish11:01
onurwho can help me11:01
onuri can't even install flashplayer11:02
gemidjydid u enable the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list ?11:02
onurno how do i do that11:02
onursry not that fimilior with linux11:02
gemidjyuse Adept11:02
gemidjyKMenu->Add/remove software11:03
gemidjyor alt+f2 -> adept11:03
onurand then?11:03
sevendennister: sorry but i followed your ntfsprogs instructions please finnish :)11:04
gemidjyAdept -> Manage repositories11:04
gemidjyRight click on the repos (lines which begin with deb or deb-src)11:05
gemidjyand then click Enable11:05
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onuru mean request install?11:07
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gemidjyno, I mean Manage repositories11:09
gemidjygone to eat11:09
onuroke11:09
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onuri don't know what you mean but thx btw ^^11:10
Jucato!multiverse | onur11:10
ubotuonur: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:10
malandrovjsI try umount a partition but I get this: device is busy11:10
onurthx11:10
apokryphosmalandrovjs: lsof /mount/point11:10
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Jucatoonur: once you're able to enabled/add multiverse, you will be able to install "flashplayer-nonfree"11:11
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randlerI'm having sudo problems, anyone?11:11
Jucatowhat problems?11:11
malandrovjsapokryphos::: Isof /mount/point is that a command?11:12
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apokryphosmalandrovjs: yes, changing /mount/point with the mount point of the busy partition11:12
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randlerJucato: unable to lookup slyna via gethostbyname() whenever I try to use it in a command11:13
malandrovjsafter this command I can use umount command?11:13
ragplease anyone know gxmame?11:13
raggxmame game emulator?11:13
dennisterok...ready to reboot and test the lirc. bye for now11:13
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Jucatorandler: when did this start happening? did you try rebooting?11:14
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onurit still doesn't work11:16
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randlerJucato: it don't really know exactly when, and yeah, I've rebooted, it's  being discussed in this forum --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78324.html11:20
malandrovjsapokryphos:;--:doesn`t work man11:20
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apokryphosmalandrovjs: you have a mounted partition, yes?11:21
malandrovjsyes11:21
apokryphosmalandrovjs: what's the location of it?11:21
malandrovjson /mnt/windows11:21
apokryphosmalandrovjs: and you want to unmount it?11:21
malandrovjsyes11:21
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malandrovjswhen I try to umount a get the inf that de device is busy11:22
apokryphosmalandrovjs: so lsof /mnt/windows. Find the PID, then kill -9 PID11:22
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thomas_Hi, may I post a question here too, or am I disturbing a current conversation?11:26
Admiral_Chicago!ask | thomas_11:26
ubotuthomas_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:26
thomas_okay. I'm having a problem with evolultion 2.8.1. I don't see suport for microsoft exchange in the server type drop down?11:27
Jucato#ubuntu or #evolution (if it exists...)11:27
thomas_thanks11:27
sevenhow can i write on ntfs any one please11:27
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Lynoureseven: is that a question?11:28
sevenyes11:28
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sevenLynoure: yes11:28
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Lynoureseven: Are you sure you want to? Writing to NTFS is still in beta, if I remember right11:29
Jucato!ntfs-3g | seven11:29
ubotuseven: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171011:29
Jucato!fuse | seven11:29
ubotuseven: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse11:29
Lynoureseven: There are usually other ways to achieve the end goal, ways that do not take NTFS writing11:29
Admiral_Chicagoseven: not safely11:30
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seventhanks11:30
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soju815k11:32
ScarFreewilli can't load the edgy desktop livecd please help11:32
XVampireXScarFreewill: Make sure you burned it correctly11:32
ScarFreewillit is i can boot & install on my one pc but the other one....11:33
XVampireXScarFreewill: That means lowest speed possible (burn at 2x/4x) + check the md5 sum before and after..11:33
soju815Hi! Is here someone who managed it to enter asian charackters via scim/skim in OOo under kubuntu? Please help, I messed around for days..11:33
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ScarFreewillXVampireX i have doen that i think its gfx card related11:34
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XVampireXnot related to gfx card, what happens exactly, when do you get stuck?11:34
Jucato!baddevice > XVampireX11:34
dalbirdyhow do I format a usb stick?11:35
ScarFreewillwell u see in dapper i hade to choose gfx save mode and that was the only way i could boot it up now with edgy not one works there is just this green line over the kubuntu bar that goes from the one side to the other11:36
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XVampireXScarFreewill: alt+f1 should show you what happens during boot11:37
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ScarFreewillok i just want to the mem test to complete...11:37
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XVampireXHmm, brb11:41
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ScarFreewillalt+f1 makes the bar freeze11:42
ScarFreewillkk11:42
XVampireXScarFreewill: it should switch to a different terminal which should show you what happens during boot11:43
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ScarFreewillXVampireX: how?11:43
ScarFreewillctrl+alt+f1?11:44
XVampireXJucato, thanks11:44
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XVampireXmaybe ctrl+alt+f111:46
XVampireXI forgot :P11:46
JucatoI think that doesn't work in Edgy11:46
ScarFreewillnothing works :P11:47
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XVampireXWorks fine here, everything works fine here, I don't know I gotta be the luckiest person on earth, and it took me less than 5 minutes to install beryl...11:47
ScarFreewillno, im just saying here on this pc next to me nothing except the menu where you choose the option of the livecd works11:48
ScarFreewillwell actualy i think every thing works but the gfx card11:49
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ScarFreewillthe thing is it loads up normal and shows the loading bar going the whole time but as soon as it finishes loading well at lest i think so then the screen just freezes when i press the power button it shutsdown normaly and even ejects the cd but still only shows text and no sine of the x server11:50
ScarFreewillping, *11:51
XVampireXhehe11:51
XVampireXI don't know11:52
ScarFreewilli guess linux/mesa or whatever doesn't like ati x70011:52
XVampireXNot Linux11:52
XVampireXmaybe ubuntu, but I doubt it11:52
ScarFreewillcauze i have on my pc edgy with beryl ...11:53
ScarFreewilli guess its mainly xserver/ the driver that loads on defualt11:53
ScarFreewillthe same thing happens on dapper but if i use safe mode then it works but now with edgy cd the normal and safe mode does not work :P11:54
XVampireXThere's no default, it should detect your hardware and load the neccessary modules11:54
malandrovjsHow can I find a PID?11:55
malandrovjsto KilL it11:55
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XVampireXps aux11:55
XVampireXin console11:55
XVampireXyou don't need PID, you can do: sudo killall programname11:55
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JucatoProcess ID11:56
ScarFreewillok11:57
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malandrovjssudo killall programme: no process killed11:57
ScarFreewillso where can i get more support on the livecd probb? forums?11:57
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gnomefreakmalandrovjs: replace programme with the name of the program you want to kill11:58
gnomefreakScarFreewill: what is the problem with it?11:58
XVampireXmalandrovjs: did you read what I said or did you just copy paste it?11:59
ScarFreewillgnomefreak, i explained it quite good up there..11:59
XVampireXprogramname = the name of the program you want to kill11:59
gnomefreakScarFreewill: i just got here11:59
malandrovjsgnomefreak> I want to umount a partition, but it says umount device is busy11:59
ScarFreewillgnomefreak, funny didn't se u logg....11:59
malandrovjsread it11:59
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XVampireXyeah12:00
malandrovjsI have to specify the programme?12:00
ScarFreewillgnomefreak how do u do that12:00
XVampireXmalandrovjs: What do you think?12:00
gnomefreakScarFreewill: scrolled to the top of my screen and pasted it12:00
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gnomefreakmalandrovjs: yes12:01
ScarFreewillgnomefreak; lol, the thing is i had dapper and i hade to use safe mode or it would not load x now with edgy now one of the 2 options works12:01
gnomefreakmalandrovjs: what app is using the device that you want to umount?12:01
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gnomefreakone == none?12:01
gnomefreakScarFreewill: what video card?12:02
MidMarkhi guys, want to say to all people that has a canon pixma ip4200 that these packages works with Edgy12:02
MidMarkhttp://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/12:02
gnomefreakoh nvm live cd :(12:02
ScarFreewillgnomefreak; ati x70012:02
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MidMarkand there also a lot of other printers from Canon and Epson supported12:03
malandrovjsbecouse I can`t modify the partition12:03
malandrovjsI want to use onother instruction to mount it and edit12:03
malandrovjs<gnomefreak>12:04
gnomefreakScarFreewill: most of time the livecd needs the xserver-xorg-video-ati and i dont think it has those drivers as default. so you are not gonna beable to boot it in gui form or at all (using livecd12:04
XVampireXgnomefreak: You shouldn't have told him/her sometimes a person should think for a moment, especially on something so trivial.12:04
gnomefreakXVampireX: i have learned not to let people think too much as it does nothing but nite me after a while ;)12:04
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: i could maybe do that but what happens if i installed edgy successfully and it still doesn't loadup x? or would it load xserver-xorg-video-ati when not useing the livecd?12:05
gnomefreakmalandrovjs: you want to un mount a partition and just re mount it in a different way?12:06
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: or is there only one way to find out12:06
malandrovjsyou know think to mch, I tryed so many commmad and I did not came out of there that why I` asking12:06
gnomefreakScarFreewill: it should load the video-ati after installing. it was fixed so it should load them12:06
malandrovjsyes12:06
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: so how would i install without gui?12:07
gnomefreakScarFreewill: if not failsafe is to set drivers to vesa untill you get it working12:07
gnomefreakScarFreewill: alternate cd :)12:07
malandrovjsbecouse I want move some file from my linux partiton to windows partition12:07
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: :(12:07
gnomefreakmalandrovjs: ntfs or fat?12:07
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: do i need to download it?12:07
malandrovjsthings like film, music12:07
malandrovjsntfs12:08
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gnomefreakScarFreewill: yep12:08
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gnomefreakmalandrovjs: dont write tto ntfs12:08
malandrovjsalso music?12:08
sinkerirightio12:08
gnomefreakto move stuff from linux --> windows make a fat partition12:08
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: well this is my brother's pc and i am not going to all that for him he should just then contenu to dapper :P12:09
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gnomefreakmalandrovjs: dont write anything to ntfs from linux its unsafe and not supported you can lose everything12:09
malandrovjsbecouse my linux partition is full, there is no more space12:09
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gnomefreakScarFreewill: dapper --> edgy upgrade works well12:09
malandrovjsOk12:09
XVampireXwindows12:09
gnomefreakmalandrovjs: make a fat one than linux-->fat-->ntfs12:09
sinkerihow do i join another channel?12:09
gnomefreaksinkeri: /j #channel12:10
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: i guess i can try that, but just wondering if this will be fixed in newer ubutnu versions12:10
brtjohnshi guys i have a toshiba laptop a100 with atheros wirless built in, my windows works fine on wirelss but the linux side on kubunt6.06lts wont detect the card12:10
gnomefreakScarFreewill: should be in feisty. edgy was too short of a release for all issues to be worked out12:10
malandrovjscan I delete 1  partition on windows and later make it on linux?12:11
gnomefreakScarFreewill: i will be talking to the livecd guys in the next few weeks about other things and i will see if there is a way around it12:11
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: thx allot12:11
gnomefreakmalandrovjs: can delete anything you like but be careful as you delete the wrong partition and poof you no longer can boot12:11
malandrovjsok, I wil do that on Windows12:12
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gnomefreakbrb12:12
malandrovjsbut I don`t know if is possible to make a extend partition on linux with free space/12:13
malandrovjs?12:13
Admiral_Chicago!wireless | brtjohns12:13
ubotubrtjohns: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:13
malandrovjsor to add the free space on linux!!!?12:14
malandrovjs>>>genomefreak>>>12:14
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weenweeeneed help with firefox12:18
ScarFreewillwhats wrong12:19
weenweeeworked all day now it doesn12:19
weenweeedoesn't start12:19
weenweeeall i get is a white window for a second and than it chrashes12:19
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weenweeei removed firefox already and installed new but the same thing happens12:20
ScarFreewilli don't know if you want to try re-naming ur ./mozilla dir to ./mozilla1...12:21
Admiral_Chicagoweenweee: how did you install it12:21
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weenweeeapt-get12:22
weenweeefirefox in console gives me this12:22
weenweee(Gecko:4992): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_parent_window: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed12:22
weenweee(Gecko:4992): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_is_viewable: assertion `window != NULL' failed12:22
weenweee(Gecko:4992): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_parent: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed12:22
weenweeeSegmentation fault12:22
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ScarFreewilloms dapper's livecd doesn't work now :P12:27
eeoshi there12:28
eeosany suggestion for a good backupping tool?12:28
gnomefreak!backup12:28
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi12:28
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ScarFreewill!bootusb12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
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ScarFreewillanyone know a disto that can let me boot via usb?12:32
eeosta!12:32
ScarFreewillhow do i log in safe mode on dapper12:34
ScarFreewill!safemode12:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about safemode - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:35
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ScarFreewillwhats the command to start xserver/kde/gui?12:38
gnomefreakScarFreewill: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start12:39
ScarFreewillit says allready running :P how do i kill it12:40
gnomefreakreplace start with stop :)12:40
ScarFreewillcool we have gui!12:40
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ninoScarFreewill PCLinuxOS will boot from usb link =>http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2006/09/19/all-in-one-usb-pclinuxos-minimezip/12:45
ScarFreewillnino, thx12:45
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tibbarLeeJunFan: I've been having some problems... Do you know hoe to upgrade to edgy without the cd?12:51
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LeeJunFantibbar: it may not go very smooth. You might be better off dl'ing the CD so at least if you end up with a broken system you'll have CD to fall back on for fresh install.12:53
LeeJunFan!upgrade12:53
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)12:53
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tibbarLeeJunFan: If I run the live cd it freezes after a few minutes12:54
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mike_frostwire is said to be behind a firewall?12:55
tibbargnomefreak: why is it unsafe to upgrade dapper to edgy?12:57
gnomefreaktibbar: i didnt say it was12:58
tibbargnomefreak: freewill my bro said so, didn't you tell him that?12:58
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gnomefreaktibbar: nope12:58
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gnomefreakdapper--> edgy ==fine12:59
gnomefreaki told him that the xserver-xorg-video-* was fixed so upgrade should be fine12:59
ScarFreewillnino: ping12:59
ninoreply12:59
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=== ScarFreewill lol
tibbargnomefreak: cool then I should get started... But with a 64kb/s connection it can take a while01:00
ScarFreewillnino: so how do i use that http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2006/09/19/all-in-one-usb-pclinuxos-minimezip/ via linux01:00
gnomefreaktibbar: yes01:00
tibbarScarFreewill: hos01:00
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tibbarbb im upgrading to edgy01:01
ScarFreewillnino: because it wants me to download teh exe..s01:01
ninoScarFreewill Download the USBMMFULL.zip01:01
ScarFreewill!upgrade01:02
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:02
wikinghow to enable/configure openal01:02
ninoScarFreewill Go here http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pendrivelinux/USBMMFULL.zip?download01:02
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ScarFreewillnino: kk01:02
LeeJunFanouch 64K, he'd be better off getting someone to mail him a DVD.01:02
ScarFreewillnino: its 300mb lol01:03
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ScarFreewillLeeJunFan: i am shairing it with him01:03
ninoScarFreewill yes its a complete linux system for usb!!01:04
[GuS] Bonjour les gens...01:04
ScarFreewillnino: kk thx btw do i just extract it on the usb disk or what?01:04
popisdeadsalut les kubuntus :)01:05
ninoScarFreewill yes and there is a file "makeboot" or something you run to make bootable on the usb01:05
ninoScarFreewill execute the makeboot file on the use!!01:05
ninousb!!01:05
ScarFreewillnino: yeah i read that..01:06
ScarFreewillnino: do you know if makeboot is a exe?01:06
ninoyes it is01:06
ninoScarFreewill u dont have windows on some machine?01:06
ScarFreewillnino: yes i do i was just wondering01:07
ninoScarFreewill can your sys boot usb?01:07
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ScarFreewillnino: never tested but i have nforce4 so i guess si01:07
ScarFreewill*so01:08
ninoScarFreewill yea that would do!!01:08
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ScarFreewillnino: just need to go buy a 512mb flash disk :)01:09
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ninoScarFreewill cool01:09
JackPhilwhere is the definition of menu categories?01:09
tobias_How do I like delete old things in /media/ ?01:10
tobias_I got an old hd01:11
tobias_that is no longer there01:11
octanrm -f /media/oldfile01:11
octanoh remove a dir01:11
tobias_and for some reason it is messing with my new portable hd01:11
octanrm -rf /media/dir-to-dlete01:11
tobias_it wont come back next time I reboot?01:12
octanno01:12
tobias_thanx01:12
octanit should not01:12
tobias_weee01:13
tobias_they are gone!01:13
tobias_do you know how to make my portable hd mount itself?01:13
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octantobias_, yes.. make a script to do that01:14
tobias_it used to mount itself but then a friend came and helped me so it stopped mounting itself01:14
octani know how to but im not spendinf my time writing a script for you :)01:14
tobias_octan: how do I do that?01:14
octanis it usb or firewire disk?01:15
tobias_usb01:15
raganyone use gxmame, machine game emulator ?01:15
tobias_hehe01:15
tobias_:)01:15
octan:)01:16
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ragplease :)01:17
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tobias_hmmm01:18
tobias_octan: I think I deleted the usb disk01:18
ragother thing one computer with kubuntu edgy dont start x, only if i press ctrl+alt+f1 and again ctrl+alt+f7 it works , anyone know it?01:18
tobias_octan: how do I make it work now?01:18
octantobias_, LOL01:18
tobias_;)01:18
octanwell you asked howto delete file and i told ya how to :P01:19
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tobias_octan: how do I make a directory? :)01:19
tobias_octan: or is that what I need to do now?01:20
octanmkdir /media/yourdir01:20
octan?01:20
tobias_mkdir /media/sda101:20
tobias_oki!01:20
tobias_thanks :)01:20
tobias_when I try to mount it it says wrong fs type or something01:21
tobias_bad superblock01:21
tobias_or god is angry at me01:21
tobias_:)01:21
tobias_I got no response for either01:22
octanmount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1 is what you do right?01:22
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tobias_ow01:22
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tobias_octan: i write "sudo mount sda1"01:22
octanbut it should already be mounted01:22
octancheck with df01:22
octantype df01:22
octanon cli to see mounted disks01:23
tobias_its not there01:23
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octanok01:23
tobias_when it tries to mount it says it doesnt have the rights01:23
octansudo01:23
tobias_it does try to mount it automatically though01:23
tobias_I write sudo in front01:23
tobias_:)01:23
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tobias_now it works!01:24
tobias_with your command "mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1"01:24
tobias_thanx01:24
octan!automount01:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:24
octanhah01:24
tobias_lol01:24
octantobias_, ok01:24
tobias_!mount01:25
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks01:25
tobias_!kmount01:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:25
octanstupid bot :P01:25
tobias_they need to make a program called kmount01:25
tobias_hehe01:25
Quinn_Stormsystem->administration->disks does not exist on edgy+01:25
tobias_thanx for the help, Im going to drink coffee in the living room now, have a nice day octan :)01:25
octanyou too01:26
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balderhow i can configure the programs that launch with the system start?01:26
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octanbalder, hu? you want programs to start when you loginto kde?01:31
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balderyes01:32
octanok01:32
octanmake a script that has the names of the apps01:32
octanand put it in ~/.kde/Autostart/01:32
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octanex: echo "exec firefox" >  ~/.kde/Autostart/firefox.sh && chmod 755 ~/.kde/Autostart/firefox.sh01:33
balderok01:33
balderthank you01:33
octanthat will start up firefox each time you log into kde01:33
octannp01:33
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Jucato(or just drag-drop-link the apps int the ~/.kde/Autostart folder...)01:39
octanthat might work to.. :) havent tryed that hehe01:39
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ypsilahello together01:42
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JackPhilmy katapult can't launch02:03
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JackPhilcrash always02:03
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Kabalso.. will I be sued by M$ using Kubuntu?  :)02:04
JackPhilis it a bug?02:05
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Th3_Cr0up13RKabal:  do you work for M$ ?02:14
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xsachahmmm "Windows Vista comes with 19,500 drivers on DVD"02:21
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octanwho cares :P02:22
Tm_T_xsacha: Does that mean they ship drivers once and all upgrading will be done by user in usual way? (hunting packages from net etc)02:23
Jucatowhen all you need are 2-5 drivers.. or maybe even just 1 :P02:23
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Tm_T_Hmm, why I have this stupid nick...02:23
mhterresRiddell: Hi02:23
Jucato"it's like ten thousand spoons, when all you need is a knife..."02:23
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hazard_Anyone know where I could look for info on how to setup an ATI AIW to work under linux?02:24
Tm_TAh, better.02:24
octaninstall vista when it comes out,, and your owned,. they own all the data you store on ther os02:24
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xsachathat means it is going to be over 2 gig Tm_T_ and yes, you wont want the drivers it comes with :)02:25
Tm_TWhat a waste of storage space that is.02:25
Riddellhi mhterres02:26
mhterresRiddell: let me know when you have time to talk about FISL02:26
Riddellmhterres: whenever you want02:27
bitzeroim trying to install sylpheed, but it asks for  libdb4.4 but libdb4.3 is installed , i couldnt find libdb4.4, any ideia ?02:28
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hazard_maybe it just can't find the headers?02:30
hazard_Or maybe you have to go to unstable/a larger package repository?02:30
hazard_You could also look online to see if such a package exsists.02:30
hazard_I had to to find where to get avahi-deamon02:31
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bitzerohazard_: that was 4 me ?02:33
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hazard_yes02:34
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hazard_later02:35
hazard_goodluck bitzero02:35
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dhqi need grafx drivers for my laptop the one i am using doesnt work02:40
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castags__New to Linux, do i need to install nvidia drivers for my graphics card?02:41
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Bubba_Gumpcastags__: yup02:42
Bubba_Gump!nvidia02:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:42
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castags__thanks02:43
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defryskcastags__, if you have a tnt nvidia card select legacy02:45
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Th3_Cr0up13Rhey guys what would be a tool to create gantt charts in ubuntu02:46
Th3_Cr0up13R?02:46
Th3_Cr0up13Rcos in adept i cannot find any ?02:46
defryskTh3_Cr0up13R, libkgantt0 and planner02:48
LynoureTh3_Cr0up13R: actually, I could not find a tool I liked a year ago and went for a commercial one. Try planner first, though.02:48
defryskand also opensched02:48
JucatoTh3_Cr0up13R: kplato, too I think02:49
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Th3_Cr0up13Rlooks like libkgantt0 is a library not an actual program02:51
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grimwebI've got a technical Question I think02:51
defryskTh3_Cr0up13R, true02:51
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grimwebI can run X as user, but not log in as user02:51
grimwebin KDE02:51
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grimwebhowever, as user Root there seem to be no problems02:52
defryskTh3_Cr0up13R, I did "apt-cache search gantt"  and got some results including that library02:52
[GuS] grimweb, use sudo....02:52
grimwebfor strating kde?02:52
grimwebstarting*02:52
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[GuS] where you cant login?02:52
defryskTh3_Cr0up13R, apt-cache search <whatever> can be very helpfull02:52
[GuS] inside KDM? or startx?02:52
grimwebfrom Xlogin02:52
grimwebstartx breaks down02:53
[GuS] and logs?02:53
grimweband KDM just sends me back to KDM02:53
[GuS] then you need to read /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:53
defryskits sudo kdm02:53
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grimweb2 seconds... there not usefull to me , but I'll look them up02:53
Th3_Cr0up13Rdefrysk: yep looks like it shows lots of stuff what they are02:53
KabalTh3_Cr0up13R: nope :)02:53
JucatoTh3_Cr0up13R: have you tried KPlato?02:53
Jucato!kplato | Th3_Cr0up13R02:54
ubotukplato: an integrated project management and planning tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 822 kB, installed size 2708 kB02:54
[GuS] look there grimweb for more infor about the problem,,,02:54
shadowhywindAnyone know how to recover ISO files that were accidently deleted02:54
defryskshadowhywind, rm is very powerful02:54
defryskshadowhywind, or is it in the basket ?02:54
Th3_Cr0up13RJucato: im trying it now it looks good02:55
shadowhywindnope, i did a shift-delete on them. hehe02:55
Jucatosorry, say bye-bye to it :)02:55
defryskshadowhywind, ouch02:55
defryskgone 4 ever02:55
grimwebstarted after a Google-Earth install btw02:55
Th3_Cr0up13Rbut i got something else aparently is unnamed and has staff already written like the dates and the stuff that i need to put in02:55
shadowhywindits not a big thing if i don't get them back, just a pain to re-rip 5 cds. No recovery programs that would find them?02:56
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defryskshadowhywind, in *nux gone is gone02:56
grimwebstarting "sudo konqueror" seems not to work on the livecd02:57
Jucatogrimweb: try kdesu konqueror02:57
grimwebthanks02:57
grimwebjust switched to kubuntu02:58
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grimweb[GuS] :02:58
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grimwebXsession: X session started for grimweb at di nov 21 14:40:28 CET 200602:58
grimwebopen: Permission denied02:58
grimwebXsession: X session started for grimweb at di nov 21 14:45:07 CET 200602:58
grimwebopen: Permission denied02:58
defryskhoho02:58
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defryskno pasting please02:59
defrysk!paste02:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:59
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grimwebsorry02:59
defryskthats ok02:59
defrysknext time use pastebin or be more brief02:59
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grimwebhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33108/03:00
grimweblike that?03:00
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cejsome body talk in spanish03:01
defryskyes , thats about it :)03:01
defrysk!es03:01
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:01
cejgracias03:01
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grimwebthanks03:01
grimwebanybody know the solution to the problem I'm facing with strating KDE? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33109/03:02
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grimwebfound this as well btw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33110/03:09
grimwebseems to be something with /dev/wacom, what's that?03:10
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DinkDaSkreech, looks like the devs of fluxbuntu will work on an image for ps3..... First step of any ubuntu distro support for ps303:11
amarcan anyone help me with boot prompt commands03:12
amari want to disable auto hw detect03:12
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foxhound31keep getting unable to load nvidia kernel driver03:15
foxhound31is there a bug to do with nvidia03:16
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foxhound31need to find out cos if so i'll get another distro03:16
hastesaver!nvidia03:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:16
foxhound31yeah done that03:16
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foxhound31but i seen other forums many people have this problem03:17
foxhound31not just me03:17
foxhound31hatesaver have you got nvidia drivers running03:18
hastesaverI don't have an nvidia card, but IMO, it's a problem with nvidia. It's a binary-only driver, so may not always work. Not just on Ubuntu, on other distros either. But I don't know :-)03:18
foxhound31ok hatesaver03:18
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foxhound31i have tried everything i can think of to make it work03:18
grimwebisn't nvidia install like "apt-get install nvidia-glx"?03:19
foxhound31absoutley03:19
foxhound31and it absolutley doesnt work03:19
foxhound31cos kernel driver wont load03:19
grimwebhmm...the install does not work, or is it not configured after?03:20
foxhound31in the xorg.conf03:20
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foxhound31its not configed after03:20
foxhound31in xorg if you change nv to nvidia03:20
foxhound31x wont start03:20
foxhound31by the way in the list of modules03:20
Jucatoin Edgy: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic nvidia-glx" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" then restart X03:20
foxhound31to load03:21
grimwebin kde -> try "system settings">"Monitor&Display">"hardware"03:21
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foxhound31i see glx but there is no nvidia specifically named module is that correct?03:21
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grimwebfoxhound... if you try to start X from cl, do you get "/dev/wacom" in your errors?03:21
foxhound31i have seen wacom yes03:22
grimwebI get that error as well03:22
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grimwebbut I can't even start with the vesa driver03:22
foxhound31but shouldnt there be a specifically named nvidia module in the list of modules to load?03:22
grimwebthe Nvidia driver works when I am in SU, sudo or root account though03:23
foxhound31you are supposed to modprobe to load module nvidia03:23
foxhound31in some guides on how to do this03:23
LeeJunFanyes, it should read driver "nvidia" not driver "vesa"03:23
LeeJunFan!nvidia03:23
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:23
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LeeJunFanDon't worry about the wacom errors, they are just informative warnings. It doesn't interfere with X starting.03:24
grimweb <grimweb> in kde -> try "system settings">"Monitor&Display">"hardware"<"vesa" -> you can change the vesa bit in "Administrator mode" via the "configure button"03:24
foxhound31yeah but about my question on modules being loaded03:24
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foxhound31anyone got an answer to that03:24
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grimwebit did automatically with me03:25
foxhound31modules loaded in the xorg.conf03:25
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grimwebbut i dunno, I'm no ubuntu expert, always used suse before, trying to fugure this thing out myself03:25
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foxhound31xorg.conf does not show a nvidia module03:25
LeeJunFanfoxhound31: did you install nvidia from ubuntu or nvidia's binary drivers from their site?03:25
foxhound31 leejun03:25
foxhound31yeas i did03:26
foxhound31yes i did03:26
LeeJunFanwhich?03:26
foxhound31ubuntu03:26
foxhound31through adept03:26
foxhound31but i have tried all ways nothing works03:26
foxhound31has anyone got a copt of their working nvidia xorg.conf so i can check which modules are loaded03:27
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foxhound31copy03:28
grimwebfound the following ip online: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=44545603:28
grimwebtip*03:28
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crubeSo does anyone know if there's a way to hide the <nick> left/joined/ messages in Konversation?03:31
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foxhound31well that tells me that there isnt a specifically named nvidia module03:32
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foxhound31i assume the nvidia module is loaded as glx03:32
Jucatocrube: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Behaviour -> Chat Window -> Hide Join/Part/Nick events03:33
foxhound31what i dont understand is why if you load it manually you use nvidia03:33
LeeJunFancrube: settings -> configure kopete -> behaviour -> chat window -> hide join/part nick events03:33
LeeJunFanJucato: bastard!03:33
LeeJunFan:)03:33
Jucatolol03:33
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foxhound31maybe i could try put the module nvidia in the modules to load list and see what happens03:34
crubeHow did I miss that! I've been trying to find it several times. Maybe i'm just blind. Anyway thanks LeeJunFan and Jucato03:34
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Jucatofoxhound31: have you installed linux-restricted-modules? have you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?03:34
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LeeJunFanfoxhound31: the nvidia module is loaded by specifying driver "nvidia" in that section, except the kernel module, if you want to ensure the kernel module is loaded place it in the file /etc/modules03:35
foxhound31yeah jucato03:35
Jucatorestarted X?03:35
foxhound31leejunfan03:35
foxhound31in myxorg.conf03:35
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foxhound31ther is no nvidia module listed03:35
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foxhound31only glx03:35
foxhound31so maybe that is why is doesnt work03:36
LeeJunFancrap, I just lost power.. Good thing I have all my network connection on UPS.03:36
defryskfoxhound31, does sudo nvidia-xconfig have any output  ?03:36
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foxhound31yeah03:36
foxhound31it just changes nv to nvidia though doesnt do anything else03:37
defryskfoxhound31, have you restarted kdm ?03:37
defryskor x ?03:37
foxhound31yeah i have tried most things03:37
defryskfoxhound31, how did you restart kdm ?03:37
foxhound31defysk03:38
foxhound31yeah i have03:38
foxhound31but if you put nvidia03:38
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foxhound31in the xorg,conf03:38
foxhound31x wont start03:38
defryskfoxhound31, nv driver was still in xorg.conf ?03:38
foxhound31no it was changed to nvidia but then x would not start03:39
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defryskfoxhound31, did you install nvidia richt after a fresh install without rebooting ?03:39
defryskright*03:39
grimwebI've commented the wacom bits in xorg.conf, I'm trying again... I'll be back03:39
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foxhound31defrysk yea03:39
defryskfoxhound31, reboot03:39
foxhound31defrysk do you have nvidia03:39
defryskfoxhound31, reboot03:39
defryskyou need to reboot03:39
foxhound31done that03:39
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defryskstill no go ?03:39
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foxhound31all of it last night here cos all of that did not work03:40
defryskthen you need nvidia-legacy03:40
defryskfoxhound31,  then you need nvidia-legacy03:40
defryskyou have an old card right ?03:40
foxhound31will try legacy03:40
defryskgood03:40
scarfreewillping, LeeJunFan03:40
foxhound31no i dont got a fx520003:40
foxhound31should work03:40
foxhound31defrysk03:40
defryskfoxhound31, should work fine03:40
foxhound31have you got nvidia03:40
defryskhow did you install nvidia ?03:40
foxhound31adept03:41
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defryskinstalled nvidia-glx ?03:41
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foxhound31defrysk have you got nvidia installed and working03:41
defryskof course I do03:41
defrysk;)03:41
foxhound31installed nvidia-glx03:41
foxhound31right in the modules section of xorg.conf03:41
LeeJunFanscarfreewill: yeah, I'm here. making sure servers in town didn't get knocked out by brownout.03:41
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defryskfoxhound31, pastebin your xorg.conf03:41
foxhound31no please post yours cos yours works03:42
defryskno03:42
foxhound31i need to see one that works03:42
defryskpastebin yours03:42
scarfreewillLeeJunFan: you know tibbar is updating is dapper to edgy...03:42
foxhound31we all no mine doesnt03:42
LeeJunFanwow my mailserver has been up 218 days. I didn't even think I installed it that long ago.03:42
LeeJunFanscarfreewill: yeah.03:42
scarfreewillLeeJunFan: that pritty long, now i was wondering i have edgy can i load up my pkgs in his /var/apt/cache/... and then i doesn't have to dl  t03:43
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foxhound31whats the address for pastebin again03:43
scarfreewillLeeJunFan: *download it03:43
defryskfoxhound31, see topic03:43
defrysk!paste03:44
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:44
defrysk!coffee03:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about coffee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:44
defryskI'll get my own then03:44
crubeHaha :D03:44
LeeJunFanscarfreewill: if you have your .debs to upload it should help keep the # he has to download to a minimum.03:44
crube!wmv03:45
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:45
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crubeIf I own a copy of Windows XP, am I not allowed to use wmv codecs for example - Not that I'd really care.03:45
foxhound31http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33114/03:46
foxhound31defrysk ther it is03:46
scarfreewillLeeJunFan: well he doens't have some much other pkgs installed so ok and btw its 6% :P03:46
defryskfoxhound31, a sec03:46
steffanyone who nows how to deal with latex?03:46
foxhound31is i have nvidia instead of nv x wont start03:46
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foxhound31defrysk check the modules section and yell me if anything is missing03:46
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LeeJunFanscarfreewill: there was someone on here one day doing just that, I wish I could remember how she was doing it. She had a nice setup for just that purpose between hers and her husbands computer.03:47
scarfreewillLeeJunFan:  i need need to do that too ;) wonder what protocall they used?03:48
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LeeJunFanscarfreewill: she was making her own mini repository, and I can't remember the command to build the packages files was used.03:48
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m_tadeuhello03:49
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LeeJunFanscarfreewill: I have a full mirror here of edgy and feisty on my external HD which I make with debmirror, so I can update my local machines from my own repository.03:49
XVampireXLeeJunFan: So you do martial arts?03:49
LeeJunFanXVampireX: yep.03:50
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XVampireXLeeJunFan: PM? :P03:50
defryskfoxhound31, I see nothing wrong with it except for perhaps your monitor03:50
LeeJunFanXVampireX: PM ?03:50
defryskfoxhound31, do you have the specs of your monitor ?03:50
m_tadeuI'm unable to control sound through the keyboard, dispite the sound keys are correctly configured03:50
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m_tadeuthe mute key is ok but increase/decrease volume are not working03:51
foxhound31defrysk03:51
scarfreewillLeeJunFan: gona reboot quikly to give tibbar my file, btw allot of the pkg are on the cd hey? so hou would i get them to his pc?03:51
foxhound31i think there is a problem with the kernel module which is preventing the driver from then loading03:52
foxhound31module doesnt work so driver wont load03:52
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foxhound31thats the problem03:52
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defryskfoxhound31, if you think that the prob....03:53
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defryskfoxhound31, lsmod | grep nv03:53
defryskwhat do you see ?03:53
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foxhound31nothing03:55
defrysknothing ??03:55
foxhound31command returns nothing03:55
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tibbarLeeJunFan: im restarted now, how does freewill give me the Edgy pakages?03:55
LeeJunFantibbar: you could setup a repository for the CD so it will get what files it can from the CD.03:55
tibbarLeeJunFan: ok how?03:56
defryskfoxhound31, do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:56
LeeJunFantibbar: as for the packages freewill has I think just copying them to your cache dir might do it.03:56
LeeJunFantibbar: to add the CD repository check apt-cdrom man apt-cdrom maybe. I've never used it myself.03:57
foxhound31defrysk done03:57
tibbarLeeJunFan: I'll copy it into my chache03:57
defryskwhat happpened foxhound31 ? did it install anything ?03:57
foxhound31nothing03:58
foxhound31cos its already installed03:58
tibbarLeeJunFan: must I paste his pakages into /var/cache/apt/archives?03:58
defryskfoxhound31, do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx --reinstall03:58
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foxhound31my kernel is is 17.1003:59
foxhound31but its kernel module is for 6.103:59
foxhound31thats why it doesnt work i think03:59
defryskwhy did you not tell that right away ?04:00
defryskgeez04:00
foxhound31cos i just figure it out now04:00
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foxhound31so you were a help04:00
Bubba_Gump!amule04:00
defryskhow did you get that stuff messed up ?04:00
ubotuamule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB04:00
foxhound31least we worked that out04:00
defryskfoxhound31, you are on dapper ?04:00
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foxhound316.1004:01
defryskdid you upgrade or a fresh install ?04:01
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foxhound31situation resolve doesnt work cos of wrong kernel module version04:01
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defryskdid you upgrade or a fresh install ?04:01
foxhound31fresh04:02
grimwebok, that was not a good idea, not X-startup at all anymore04:02
tibbarLeeJunFan: must I paste freewill's Edgy pakages into /var/cache/apt/archives?04:02
defryskfoxhound31, where did you get the nevidia-glx repo from ?04:02
defrysknvidia*04:02
foxhound31adept04:02
defryskno in your sources.list04:02
defryskfoxhound31, and did you run a dist-upgrade after install ?04:03
foxhound31defrysk thank you i have to go now but very grateful cos i know what is wrong now your a star pal04:03
defrysk:/04:03
foxhound31defrysk gonna be late for work so i'm going thank once again04:03
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defryskk , bye04:03
LeeJunFantibbar: how are you going to transfer them between machines?04:03
foxhound31hope you dont think i dont appreciate your help i really do04:04
litropyhey, guys - does anyone know a xgl mirror whose scripts are pointing in the right direction?04:04
litropyfor ppc?04:04
LjL!xgl04:05
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:05
tibbarftp04:05
tibbarLeeJunFan: we are in a network and we use pure-ftp04:05
litropythx04:05
LeeJunFantibbar: yeah, just dump them in the cache dir, I'm not entirely certain that will work, but I don't see why it wouldnt.04:05
Bubba_Gumphow do i find out what X version i am running?04:06
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defryskBubba_Gump, in dapper 7.0 in edgy 7.104:06
LjLBubba_Gump: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg04:06
Bubba_Gumpedgy :)04:06
defryskBubba_Gump, and what LjL said ;)04:07
octanor04:07
Bubba_Gump;)04:07
octan Xorg -version04:07
defryskBubba_Gump, and what Bubba_Gump said04:07
Bubba_Gumphah :D04:08
defryskoctan, that is :D04:08
octanhehe :)04:08
defrysk!info xorg04:08
ubotuxorg: X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB04:08
Bubba_Gumpcan someone help me to install some drivers?04:08
defryskalso an easy way04:08
grimwebI'm going to try with glx disabled in xconf, maybe that works04:08
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Bubba_Gumphttp://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart4.shtml#download (i'm looking to install the 760, yet, i have yet to have a clue :) )04:09
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Bubba_Gumpwhich of the binaries do i download?04:11
Bubba_Gumpfor the x that i'm running :)04:11
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defryskBubba_Gump, http://www.winischhofer.eu/cgi-bin/downloadpage.cgi?dllink=http://www.winischhofer.net/sis/sis_drv.o_xorg_7.1.0_gcc4_290906-1.tar.gz04:13
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Bubba_Gumphow do i stop X?04:14
Bubba_Gumpand, when i do, will it stop my display?04:14
defrysk yes04:14
Th3_Cr0up13Rdefrysk:  !xorg doesnt work on mine says not found04:14
Tm_TBubba_Gump: Stop what display?04:14
defrysk /etc/init.d/kdm stop04:15
Bubba_Gump"Starting from X.org 6.9, you MUST stop X.org before proceeding."04:15
defrysk /etc/init.d/kdm start to start it again04:15
Tm_TBubba_Gump: Yes it stop that graphical environment, but you still have all those fancy terminals04:15
Bubba_Gump:)04:15
defryskctrl-alt f1- f604:16
defrysk6 to choose from04:16
Seeker`f1 is my favourite04:16
defryskctrl- alt f7 to return to grafics04:16
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Angrataf!ati04:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:17
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Bubba_Gumphow can i do this (new to linux) - Copy "sis_drv.o" (sis_drv.so for X.org 6.9 and later) over the existing one which usually is located at /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/. Starting with X.org 7.0, the file is located at /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers.04:17
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dhqi have a problem i cant compile my graphic drivers ERROR:" Kernel modules did not compile  The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on what went wrong.04:18
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ScarFreewillLeeJunFan: how do i copy edgy's default pkg form the cd rom ?04:19
defryskBubba_Gump, sis drivers is nativly available in ubuntu if thats the driver you are after04:19
ScarFreewilland i'm gay04:19
Bubba_Gumpso i need to copy sis_drv.so from /home/gary/ to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers04:19
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Tm_TScarFreewill: Too much info there.04:20
dhqfdoving: i have a problem i cant compile my graphic drivers ERROR:" Kernel modules did not compile04:20
Bubba_Gumpdefrysk: yes they are, but the drivers that come with ubuntu only use 256k of the graphics04:20
ScarFreewillTm_T: btw that was m04:20
defryskI see04:20
ScarFreewillTm_T:04:20
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defryskanyway, have to go for a bit04:20
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Bubba_Gumpk :)04:20
Bubba_Gumpthanks for your help :)04:20
defryskBubba_Gump, make sure to blacklist the ones ubuntu uses to avoid conflicts with the ones you are going to use04:21
LeeJunFanScarFreewill: what you want to do is put the CD-rom in the other computer to be upgraded and apt-cdrom add (check man apt-cdrom)04:21
Tm_TScarFreewill: You're in wrong channel if you think that thing matters. ;(04:21
defrysklater!04:21
LeeJunFan!apt-cdrom04:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:21
Angrataf!gnome04:21
ubotugnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.04:21
Angratafwhta's the name of the gnome package?04:22
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Tm_TAngrataf: ubuntu-desktop perhaps.04:22
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Tm_T!info ubuntu-desktop04:22
ubotuubuntu-desktop: The Ubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB04:22
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Bubba_Gumphow can i copy files from one location, to another, through the terminal?04:23
ScarFreewillTm_T: that was my brother04:23
LjLBubba_Gump: cp (possibly cp -a)04:24
ScarFreewillTm_T: omg it w04:24
LjLUbotu, please tell Bubba_Gump about cli | Bubba_Gump, you have a private message from Ubotu04:24
Tm_TScarFreewill: As always. ;)04:24
ScarFreewillTm_T: nwm04:24
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ScarFreewillLeeJunFan: do i have to remount the cdrom in bash/non-gui?04:28
LeeJunFanScarFreewill: shouldn't matter if it's non-gui.04:29
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JanKhow to start kmail on startup, but only in the notification bar? (like the KOrganizer notification symbol)04:29
dhq i have a problem i cant compile my graphic drivers ERROR:" Kernel modules did not compile04:30
dhq i have a problem i cant compile my graphic drivers04:30
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virogenesishello04:35
virogenesiscan Anyone tell me how to install synergy or midnight commander Via apt-get ?04:35
virogenesiscus I don't seem to be able to download it....04:35
Angratafapt-get install synergy perhaps04:35
virogenesisnope, says its not there04:35
virogenesisE: Couldn't find package synergy04:36
virogenesisE: Couldn't find package mc04:36
virogenesisCan't find midnight commander...04:36
Jucato!mc04:36
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB04:36
JanKapt-get update before?04:36
virogenesisno :)04:36
virogenesisthank you :D04:36
Bubba_Gump"The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem." any ideas?04:36
JanKsudo :)04:36
virogenesisdone :D04:36
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Jucatovirogenesis: check if your universe repos are enabled also04:37
virogenesisstill can't find mc04:37
Riddelltrappist: ping04:37
virogenesisah where do I fix the universe repos04:37
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Jucato!repositories | virogenesis04:37
ubotuvirogenesis: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:37
virogenesisThank you !!! :)04:37
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virogenesisthank god this irc server has nice ppl to help out the n00bs ;)04:37
xstIn fstab I have listed two mountpoints with the noauto option. But still they both gets mounted automatically. This broken-like behavior began came with edgy. How can I make it respect the noauto option?04:37
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trappistRiddell: pong04:38
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Riddelltrappist: I found an old e-mail from you with a patch for common/kde-default.css04:39
ScarFreewillvirogenesis: ^_^04:39
trappistRiddell: yeah I remember sending it04:39
Riddelltrappist: I've long since forgotten what the context is, can you mind me?04:39
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trappistRiddell: a lot of the html docs, particularly TOCs, have links that are unclickable in firefox because of the all-around padding that should have been padding-left04:40
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Riddelltrappist: does it need applied to branch as well as trunk?04:40
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Bubba_Gumpapt problems, i have added two deb's to my repositories, now adept opens with an error04:41
trappistRiddell: I'd have to look - it was applied at some point, then I guess resynced from kde.org04:41
Riddelltrappist: oh, if someone has applied it, then I don't need to worry :)04:42
JucatoBubba_Gump: you probably added the deb lines incorrectly, edit the sources.list manually: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:42
Admiral_Chicago!easysource04:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:43
Admiral_Chicagothat may also healp04:43
trappistRiddell: oh ok, good deal - I've sent it upstream to I think kde-docs-en - maybe you could poke them for me if you have any clout with them :)  they've been sitting on it for a while04:43
Bubba_GumpJucato: i have, but, when it comes to save, it says: "The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list. Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available."04:43
Riddelltrappist: why do they need poked if it has been applied?04:44
trappistah, kde-doc-english04:44
JucatoBubba_Gump: did you use the exact command I gave you?04:44
trappistRiddell: it hasn't been applied upstream04:44
Riddelloh, so I should still worry about it04:44
Admiral_Chicagotrappist or Riddell speakin gof FX, does Ctrl + A work for either of you in 2.0? I can't highlight a nexn area ash i'm not sure if it was my computer or a bug04:44
Bubba_GumpJucato: heh, no (i'm in konq) :)04:44
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JucatoBubba_Gump: and in Konqi, you're probably browsing using file:/ ?04:44
trappistRiddell: I think so - I don't remember exactly why it came back up, but I think you were specifically asking about local changes you might want to reapply04:45
JucatoBubba_Gump: well, since you're on Konqi, just right-click on sources.list and select Actions -> Edit as Root04:45
Bubba_GumpJucato: that code worked :)04:45
Bubba_Gumpahhh i see04:45
trappistAdmiral_Chicago: works here04:45
Bubba_Gumpi've gotta be root to edit such files :)04:45
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Admiral_Chicagotrappist: hmm, i'll do a about:config  maybe my keybindings got altered somehow, thanks04:46
Admiral_Chicagoclass time04:46
JucatoBubba_Gump: you need to have privileges to modify anything outside of /home/username04:46
Bubba_Gumpah, gotcha :)04:46
ScarFreewillcan one uninstall all his extra pkg with out knowing what they are (just getting back to narmal kubuntu)04:47
Bubba_Gumpkdesu <does that grant the privileges?04:47
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JucatoBubba_Gump: yes. kdesu is the "graphical" counter part of sudo04:47
Admiral_ChicagoBubba_Gump: in GUI04:47
Jucato!sudo | Bubba_Gump04:48
ubotuBubba_Gump: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:48
Bubba_Gumpah04:48
Jucato!kdesu | Bubba_Gump04:48
ubotuBubba_Gump: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:48
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DaSkreechDink: Cool04:53
randlerI can't get in to my kubuntu from my windows04:53
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TheGateKeeperrandler: dual boot?04:55
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snowicefstab file in kubuntu looks strange04:55
litropyI'm on a ppc64 - how do I get flash installed?04:56
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TheGateKeeperlitropy: you need to install browser & flash as 32bit apps04:56
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randlerTheGateKeeper: No it's a homenetwork04:57
snowicewhat's UUID in first column in fstab?04:57
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litropyTheGateKeeper: how do I do that?04:57
LjL!uuid | snowice04:57
ubotusnowice: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:57
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Jucato!uuid | snowice04:58
ubotusnowice: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)04:58
randlerit's says that i have to authenticate when i try to access the server from itself04:58
randlerin smb4k04:59
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TheGateKeeperlitropy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava <-- hopefully this will help in some way04:59
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TheGateKeeperrandler: you have installed samba?05:00
randleryes05:00
randlerI can get to windows from kubuntu, but not the other way around, I don't thin I've shared right05:01
snowicethanks ubotu05:01
TheGateKeepergo to system settings -> Internet & Network -> share05:01
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murchadhrandler: Check the user permissions on the folder you're trying to share.05:02
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VirogenesisHello !05:03
randlerLocal network settings?05:03
randlerI mean browsing05:03
VirogenesisCan anyone tell me how to install the NVIDIA drivers, it reported some error that my kernel installation is inexistant...05:03
murchadhrandler: I had to mount my fat32 drives using the uid gid flags to set the  mounts to my default user to get them to share. Not very elegant, I know, but it may help narrow down your problem.05:04
Virogenesisit also said it was going to try to dl the installation from some FTP but it locked there05:04
randlerI don't have any access to the server at all.05:04
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randlermurchadh: uh, okay. How do I do that?05:04
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snowiceis it normal that it only shows /dev/ as the mountpoint for the floppy drive in fstab?05:07
murchadhrandler: /dev/hda2 /DATA vfat defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,owner 0 0 -0 is the line from my /etc/fstab to mount my fat32 partition with uid=gid=1000. Then samba shares them - without the uid gid it doesn't.05:07
Angrataf!grub-themes05:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub-themes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:07
Angrataf!grub05:07
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:07
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murchadhrandler: Can you edit your /etc/fstab? If so, add the above line, then sudo umount /dev/whateveritis, sudo mount /dev/whateveritis, and try your sharing!05:09
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randlerBut i'm not sure if I have fat32?05:10
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murchadhrandler: I have had to use it on ntfs also. But I may be off track, and thereby putting you further off track!05:11
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murchadhrandler: You are having problems sharing files from kubuntu using samba?05:12
Virogenesiscan anyone tell me how do I : 1. Build and install the kernel module05:12
InkWellI downloaded the nvidia linux display driver for AMD64, how do i install it?05:12
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VirogenesisInkWell: I have the exact same problem05:12
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InkWelli'm new to linux, so i know almost nothing05:13
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Virogenesissame :|05:13
DaSkreechQuinn_Storm: Hiya05:13
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randlermurchadh:  yes, I can't get into the kubuntucomputer from windows, it's says that i don't have permission to05:13
Quinn_Stormhi DaSkreech05:13
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ns_ahoys05:15
InkWellhey DaSkreech05:15
ns_anyone tryed to run beryl on kubuntu in a vmware machine ?05:15
LjLberyl under vmware? ugh05:15
murchadhrandler: Have you physical access to the kubuntu computer? What have you shared? Have you setup a firewall on kubuntu?05:15
ns_LjL...i know...05:16
DaSkreechnikkiana: Hello05:16
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nikkianamorning DaSkreech05:16
Th3_Cr0up13Rhey guys i just installed apollon but if i remember correctly when you run it the first time05:16
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Th3_Cr0up13Rit asks for gift to be run or somehting05:16
Th3_Cr0up13Rnow it just run and is trying to connect somewhere without me telling it were to05:17
ns_i'm having problems configuring my nvidia videocard, but the vmware doesn't like it ....it halts de system on reboot05:17
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Th3_Cr0up13Rthe funny part is , its not even connecting05:17
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Th3_Cr0up13Rjust saying it is .... but it is doing nothing05:17
Th3_Cr0up13Rdoes anyone know if i got to configure something before running it05:17
Th3_Cr0up13Ror add something to it?05:18
randlerI've shared a folder in my home catalogue and no no firewall yet the physical address.., i'm not even sure if I have mounted samba05:18
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randlerUse authentication for servername?05:21
murchadhrandler: In konqueror, right-click on a file or folder you want to share, click properties and then select the share tab at the top. Try to enable samba sharing, if it's installed it'll show up there.05:22
murchadhrandler: Just trying to see if samba is working.05:22
randlerokej05:23
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randlerAn error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/randler/share'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root.05:24
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murchadhrandler: Gotta head out for a while. I'll be back in an hour. Try  ls -al /usr/bin/fileshareset05:26
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randlerok, thanks05:26
murchadhrandler: Make sure the permissions and group are set to root.05:26
randlermm05:26
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randlermurchadh: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 11003 2006-10-01 19:33 /usr/bin/fileshareset05:27
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murchadhrandler: Same as me. Not the problem then.05:28
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murchadhrandler: Do you know how to start konqueror as root? And try the above share on /home/randler/share again....05:30
randleryeah05:31
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DaSkreechHI InkWell05:40
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InkWellhey05:41
DaSkreechWhats up?05:42
DaSkreechQuinn_Storm: Got your problem fixed?05:42
DaSkreechnikkiana: How are you Today?05:43
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Quinn_Stormmostly DaSkreech05:43
DaSkreechSooo now screensavers work but you can't preview them?05:43
Quinn_Stormlol no05:45
Quinn_Stormactually I'm in a *gasp* gnome session with gnome-screensaver05:45
HawkwindIckkkkk05:46
HawkwindHah05:46
Quinn_Stormwhich *also* has bugs here05:46
Quinn_StormI just tried it and it went blankscreen05:46
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InkWellgot my 40g hd and installed this05:47
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Bubba_Gumphow do i open konqueror as root05:49
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defryskBubba_Gump, kdesu konqueror05:50
defryskjust guessing :/05:50
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Bubba_Gumpwhen i do the ksedu, it comes up afterwards with "bad input device"05:51
Jucatocorrect guess05:51
Bubba_Gumpis that normal ??05:51
JucatoBubba_Gump: normal05:51
shadowhywind!pastebin05:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:51
JucatoBubba_Gump: X BadDevice Error, right?05:51
Bubba_Gumpyeah05:51
Bubba_Gumpis that sposed to happen?05:52
JucatoBubba_Gump: those are normal. if you don't want to see those, just press Alt+F2 and enter "kdesu konqueror" from there05:52
Bubba_Gumpthanks :)05:52
DaSkreechInkWell: ok so if you got any questions just ask them here :)05:54
defryskBubba_Gump, you can also add runcommand to your panel if you would like that its in the add > applets when you rightclick annn empy spot on the panel05:55
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Bubba_Gumpthanks :)05:56
murchadhGood idea to use a default or different theme for root, that way you'll know when you're in konqueror with all those extra privileges! You gotta exercise care when you wear root's hat...05:56
misoanyone got any experience configuring NetworkManager & getting it running with knetworkmanager?05:57
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defryskkonqueror running as root .... brrrrrrr05:57
litropyman05:57
litropyno one is responding in #ubuntu-xgl05:58
litropyhere's what I have05:58
litropyBoth beerorkid.com and media.blutkind.org have scripts pointing to the wrong thing for powerpc. They should be pointing to ppc, not powerpc, and I get a "Unable to find expected entry" upon sudo apt-get install05:58
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Admiral_Chicagolitropy: woul you mind pasting your sources.list06:06
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litropyAdmiral_Chicago: yes, hang on06:10
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litropyAdmiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33136/06:12
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Admiral_Chicagolitropy: i see what you mena i think. give me a moment06:13
litropythanks, Admiral_Chicago06:13
LjL!info kaptain | Dr_willis (see yesterday)06:14
ubotukaptain: Graphical front-end for command line programs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.71-1.5 (edgy), package size 421 kB, installed size 724 kB06:14
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overkill22hi at all06:15
overkill22someone can help me to configure the WEBCAM ???06:15
LjLUbotu, please tell overkill22 about webcam | overkill22, you have a private message from Ubotu06:15
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overkill22i don't find it in any list of avaiable webcam06:16
octan!spca5xx06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spca5xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
octanbleh06:16
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trappist!spca5xx-source06:17
ubotuspca5xx-source: source for the spca5xx driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 20060501-1 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 256 kB06:17
octanhttp://spca50x.sourceforge.net/spca50x.php?page=cams06:17
GusjMy wireless mouse and keyboard are still not detected by Kubuntu06:17
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octanoverkill22, look at that list06:17
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Admiral_Chicagolitropy: i assume every line should end in main-ppc06:18
overkill22octan , i have a typhoon easycam , i linux see it on the usb port, but i don't know the chipset of it!06:18
litropyAdmiral_Chicago: should I replace anything with main-ppc, or should I just add it to the end of the line?06:19
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octanoverkill look at that link insteadhttp://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html06:19
octanhttp://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html06:20
Admiral_Chicagolitropy: to the end of the line06:20
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octanoverkill22, if you cam is not listed ther,, google for for the driver06:21
litropythanks, Admiral_Chicago - I'll keep you updated06:21
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overkill22octan , i tell google, but i can't find anything for my cam...and i'm new for linux, so i don't know how i can  configure the wecam..06:21
DaSkreechoverkill22: Which webcam?06:22
octanover is you camera listed in the last link i pasted06:22
Admiral_Chicagolitropy: let me know if that works so i can update the documentation06:22
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litropysure thing, Admiral_Chicago06:22
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overkill22octan, no there isn't....   DaSkreech, my cam is Typhoon Easycam 1,3 Mpix06:23
trappistoverkill22: I see two typhoon easycams, one supported by spca5xx and one not06:23
overkill22trappist, where?06:23
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trappistoverkill22: http://www.kaiser-linux.li/index.php/Linux_and_Webcams#Typhoon_Easycam_USB_330K06:23
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overkill22damn, my is the one who is not supported...06:24
octanoverkill22, guess you have to wait a while06:24
litropyAdmiral_Chicago: apt-get update did not work. See paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33139/06:24
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trappistoverkill22: looks like 9 days ago some real progress was made on support for it06:25
trappistoverkill22: http://www.kaiser-linux.li/index.php?title=PAC731106:25
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overkill22i'm reading ! .-)06:26
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overkill22trappist, i've read, but i don't understand if i can use it or no... -_-'06:27
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trappistoverkill22: heh me neither :)  might be worth a shot to grab the newest source and try06:28
overkill22trappist, don't understand...06:28
trappistoverkill22: download the newest spca5xx source (not from the repositories), build it, and give it a try06:29
Admiral_Chicagolitropy: you are trying to get compiz to work on a mac? ppc?06:30
overkill22trappist, can you help me to download it and install plz?06:30
litropyAdmiral_Chicago: correct. iMac 1.8 GHz G5 20" GeForce FX06:31
inteliwaspcan anyone help a linux user in dependency hell?06:31
trappistoverkill22: I'll let you find and download the source.  once you've done that I'll help you build it (if I'm still here)06:32
apokryphos!hlepme06:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hlepme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:32
apokryphos!helpme06:32
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:32
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not sure if composite will work on PPC yet06:32
Admiral_Chicagolet me poke around06:32
litropyAdmiral_Chicago: sure thing06:32
overkill22trappist, for dwnl i must write apt-get install spca5xx ?06:33
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h3sp4wnNo inherient reason why composite would not work on PPC06:33
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trappistoverkill22: no, that won't get the newest source.  just poke around on the intarweb and find it06:33
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litropyAdmiral_Chicago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13601506:34
litropyit does run06:34
litropy"almost flawlessly", so says the article06:34
Admiral_Chicagoah my apolocies h3sp4wn and litropy, i've only seen repos of PC and 64bit06:35
Admiral_Chicagoi assumed...06:35
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overkill22trappist sorry, i cant do anything because i've install kubuntu only 2 days ago, so i don't know what i must search and where,...sorry for that.... :(06:36
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trappistoverkill22: nevermind, it looks like the new stuff for that camera isn't available for download yet.  have to wait for another release.06:38
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overkill22trappist, thanx anyway!06:38
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Admiral_Chicagolitropy: what kind of card06:39
litropyI'll have the exact version in a sec06:39
litropyAdmiral_Chicago: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra with 64 MB of DDR SDRAM (AGP 8X support).06:41
Admiral_Chicagohmm i have no idea why it doesn't work06:41
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Admiral_Chicagolitropy: i'll try in #ubuntu-xgl, i see you're already there06:43
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inteliwaspcan anyone help a linux user in dependency hell?06:43
Flyserhi does Kubuntu use the same Mirror for its packages as Ubuntu?06:43
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fred_Hi everybody06:44
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FearMothhi, i changed the icon for my usb flash disk, and later deleted that icon (i guess ?) and now it's not showing up on my desktop. all I see is "usbdisk" and no icon where there should be one. is there any way to reset the icon to the default?06:44
mnoirFlyser: yes06:44
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eduardohi folks, i have a problem with the kubuntu in my laptop when i do "turn off". The comportment of kubuntu is close every all services, but no the laptop energy06:46
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litropyAdmiral_Chicago: http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/compiz-repository/06:48
litropywould that work?06:48
root_?06:48
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gtwyhow do i force an upgrade of a package that doesnt have an update available06:49
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gtwyi have a file from the website that is newer than what apt-get is saying is the newest06:50
randlerFlyser: Kubuntu is ubuntu but with the kde desktop06:50
Flyserrandler: I know06:50
DaSkreechgtwy: What kind of file is it?06:50
Admiral_Chicagolitropy: i don't think so06:50
gtwysourcecode.. but i could probably find a binary of it06:50
Admiral_Chicagoi'm sorry but i have to run and do hw06:50
Admiral_Chicagottul06:50
randlerSo you can download ubuntu and then install kde-desktop06:50
DaSkreechgtwy: Jump to it then :)06:50
DaSkreechrandler: if you use the alternate :)06:50
litropyAdmiral_Chicago: alright06:50
gtwyim trying to update smbclient because the newest one fixed a bug that i am having a problem with06:51
DaSkreechis there a way to apt-get remove one package and get rid of gnome?06:51
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Admiral_Chicagolitropy: PM me if you get it working06:51
Admiral_Chicagoi'll update the documentation06:51
randlerFlyser: So why do you want to know if they use the same mirror?06:51
Flyserrandler: well maybe there are some differents in ... I dont know much about ubuntu sry06:52
trappistDaSkreech: not exactly, but you could use debfoster on ubuntu-desktop06:53
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DaSkreechdebfoster?06:53
trappist!debfoster06:54
ubotudebfoster is a command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/06:54
Angrataf!beryl06:54
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl06:54
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Dr_willisits amazing the # of commands/tools out for package management...06:55
DaSkreechtrappist: so runing that on the package ubuntu-desktop would remove all stuff down to X ?06:55
LjLDr_willis: saw my note?06:55
Dr_willisnote? been out rakeing the yard. :)06:56
trappistDaSkreech: if you run it with the right options, it will remove all packages that are installed only because of ubuntu-desktop dependencies06:56
LjL!info kaptain | Dr_willis (see yesterday)06:56
ubotukaptain: Graphical front-end for command line programs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.71-1.5 (edgy), package size 421 kB, installed size 724 kB06:56
DaSkreechLjL: Is that like alt+ F2 ?06:56
Dr_willis!info kaptain | Dr_willis06:57
ubotukaptain: Graphical front-end for command line programs. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.71-1.5 (edgy), package size 421 kB, installed size 724 kB06:57
LjLDaSkreech, no. it lets you build quick GUIs for CLI programs by writing a text file06:57
Dr_willisheh06:57
Dr_williswhich is about all i used CanDO for on my amiga. :)06:58
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LjLDr_willis: which is why i thought you'd find that interesting... for a real full CanDo equivalent, i dunno.06:59
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Dr_willisLjL,  yea.. that style of program has fallen to the wayside it seems.07:00
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LjLDr_willis: well, there's Kommander... probably the closest it gets07:02
LjLand Gambas, but that's more of a VB clone than anything else07:02
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londo4Help... I try to open Adep but I get this   Message: The APT database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem07:05
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fdoving!adept crash fix | londo407:06
ubotulondo4: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:06
fdovinglondo4: try that, tell me if it doesn't work.07:06
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londo4Ubotu> Its not working07:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Its not working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:12
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londo4<ubotu> is that link for me?07:13
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DaSkreechlondo4: ubotu is a robot07:13
inteliwasplondo4:  do this command "ps-ef |grep adept"07:13
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londo4I did know man07:14
sgorilla80where would you access your touchpad settings?07:14
ales_Running man fg or man jobs gives me "No manual entry for fg".  What package should I install to get this manuals?07:14
Dr_willissgorilla80,  theres a ksynaptic program that can tweak the settings on the fly.07:14
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Dr_willisbut i recall a Xorg.conf setting needed to be changed to get full use of it.07:15
londo4ubotu, is not working07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is not working - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
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londo4ubotu> the command does`t work07:16
ubotuthe: Full-screen character mode text editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1-4 (edgy), package size 277 kB, installed size 796 kB07:16
campbch!mp307:16
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:16
Hawkwindlondo4: ubotu is a bot and won't answer you07:17
londo4ok07:17
sonja-nyhi there, i got ubuntu up and running from a live cd and a fresh install, i want to BE in KDE ,, I have understood that i ned the kde version.. cool kubuntu 6 10 alternate amd64 iso, is that all i need ?07:17
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londo4<Hawkwind>do you can solve my problem?07:17
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DaSkreechales_: as far as I know those are bash builtins07:18
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DaSkreechales_: Would you like help files for them?07:19
sgorilla80whats the best way to access usb drives when you plug them in?07:19
tsdgeossonja-ny: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is all you need07:19
sgorilla80i have a camera that is supposed to act like a usb drive07:19
dorshinhow to change login screen in dapper?07:19
sgorilla80but im not sure how to mount it07:19
sonja-nytsdgeos-->from a term ?07:19
sgorilla80does kde have some type of automounter for those types of thing?07:19
tsdgeossonja-ny: yes07:19
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tsdgeosprobably prepend a "sudo"07:19
sonja-nytsdgeos--> Thank you sir07:20
ales_DaSkreech: yes, i would like to get help files07:20
ceckohi all,07:20
ceckosudo echo on > /proc/acpi/ibm/light07:20
ceckobash: /proc/acpi/ibm/light: Permission denied07:20
sonja-nysudo ok I will do that07:20
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Lam_does anyone else's emacs have small font size?07:20
ceckoshould i change the permissions?07:20
DaSkreechales_: if you cn't find man files for commands that exist try the command <type command_name>07:20
sgorilla80Lam_: i think small font size is good07:20
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DaSkreechtry type fg07:20
sgorilla80for emacs07:20
londo4Admiral_Chicago>>> do you can give me the command to fix my soundcard again?07:20
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DaSkreechales_: you should get shell builtin. if you do then to get the help files the command is <help command_name>07:21
DaSkreechso help fg and help jobs should give you want you need07:21
zorglu_ if one would like to know the network usage of the box in general, where one should look ? somewhere in /proc ?07:22
Admiral_Chicago !sound07:22
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin07:22
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Admiral_Chicagolondo4: i don't recall helping you, was it "alsamixer"07:22
sonja-nytsdgeos--> thank you very much Term window is now downloading... do I need to reboot and alter my login session ?07:23
tsdgeossonja-ny: reboot yes, and yes, you have to login to "KDE" instead of "gnome"07:23
dorshinhow to change login screen in dapper?i am changing GUI style from login manager but nothing changes,07:23
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Admiral_Chicago!kdem | dorshin07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
Admiral_Chicago!kdm | dorshin07:24
ubotukdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB07:24
pyongdo someone knows how to play  wmv  on my kubuntu07:24
sonja-nytsdgeos--> will i have the option to change sessions on reboot like a F3 key ?07:24
Admiral_Chicago!restricted | pyong07:24
ubotupyong: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:24
steveireIs there a command line way to see what DNS servers I'm connected to?07:24
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tsdgeossonja-ny: no, you have to choose that on the login screen07:24
ceckohi all, i think i cant run acpid.   "acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Permission denied"  can I change perimissions in /proc/ folder?07:24
Admiral_Chicagosteveire: i think it's a command called trace not sure07:24
tsdgeosi think, not sure :D07:24
Admiral_Chicagolondo4: i have to go to class07:25
Admiral_ChicagoPM me if you live07:25
ales_DaSkreech: I am watching a video tutorial for bash on fedora and they used man fg and got something like http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/fg.1.html. help fg gives me some info, but I would like to get man like on the URL I just wrote07:25
zorglu_steveire: "dig google.com" you will see07:25
sonja-nytsdgeos--> Thanks for all the help ... Thank you is all I can say , very impressed EX SUSe user is going to party her ASS off07:25
londo4ok07:25
zorglu_steveire: ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)07:25
zorglu_steveire: around the end, this is your dns server07:25
DaSkreechales_: Not sure where they got it but you can make your own man page I would suspect07:26
dorshinhow to change login screen in dapper?i am changing GUI style from login manager but nothing changes,07:26
DaSkreechzorglu_: Is that like digg google.com ?07:26
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steveirezorglu_: If you told me the command I missed it. I'll google now.07:27
zorglu_DaSkreech: "dig" is a command line part of bind utilities to query dns (nothing to do with digg the website)07:27
zorglu_steveire: ok type "dig ubuntu.com" in a terminal07:27
DaSkreechzorglu_: Man no one gets puns anymore :-(07:27
steveireah, thanks.07:27
zorglu_DaSkreech: mouaoua hey internet communication is hard :)07:28
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sgorilla80where would your touchpad be in xorg.conf ?07:28
zorglu_ if one would like to know the network usage of the box in general, where one should look ? somewhere in /proc ? <- no taker for my poorly asked question about netif sta ?\07:28
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sgorilla80it seems i have a lot of mice listed there, but i am not sure what is associate with the touchpad07:28
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steveirezorglu_: Actually dig is enough to give me the info07:28
sgorilla80would it be /dev/psaux?07:28
zorglu_steveire: cool07:28
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zorglu_balbala where linux hides the stat about netif07:31
zorglu_i go dig :) ouf ouf, am i funny or not :)07:31
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`4aFkA`what help can i get from here ?07:32
sonja-nywell a change of your nickname would be a help too ?07:33
zorglu_cat /proc/net/dev <- i got it !!! :)07:33
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sonja-nytsdgeos-->  after the reboot is there a way i can Use wild cards to install ALL KDE packages ?07:34
sonja-nytsdgeos--> As in apt-get kde *.* ?07:34
londo4Who can help me with this problem? The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get updat07:35
tsdgeossonja-ny: think no07:35
scheuri!apt07:35
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:35
zorglu_!adept-fix-crash07:35
scheurilondo4: at the end of that article there should be help07:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adept-fix-crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:35
Hawkwind!adept crash fix | londo407:35
ubotulondo4: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:35
zorglu_!adept-crash-fix07:35
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"07:35
zorglu_i was close tho :)07:36
sonja-nytsdgeos--> Thank you Sir, one more ? If I may can I uninstall all the gnome ? or just leave it I Got like 480 gig og HDD07:36
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tsdgeosyou can probably uninstall it07:36
tsdgeosbut it should not hurt07:36
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`4aBkA`i have some problems with setting up my connection.. coz i use proxy07:37
sonja-nytsdgeos--> Thank you very much I will STFU up now and just install and reboot, thanks for the help I am loving Kubuntu , its wicked fast on my amd07:37
Angrataf!xfce07:37
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"07:37
`4aBkA`and i need help to setup the ip addresses and the proxies07:38
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sonja-nytsdgeos--> Thank you very much , Kubuntu just kicked in on login ... no Questions asked ... I love it .. Thank you07:40
tsdgeos:-)07:40
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DaSkreechha ha :)07:40
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brinksorry mt clone let me fix it07:41
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Angrataf!suse07:42
ubotuOther Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware07:42
sonja-nywow love the speeed07:42
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Dr_Willisspeed kills - go back to windows befor its too late!07:43
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sonja-nywinblows sucks i aint used it since 95 winsucks and never will07:44
jubbidubbidumooop07:44
sonja-nyI have never seen or had a better install than ubuntu07:44
jubbidubbidu:P07:44
Dr_Willisim testing out PuppyLinux at the moment. :)07:44
sonja-nyit found all my AMD 64 bit shit and is online07:44
jubbidubbidumaybe u can help me07:45
jubbidubbiduhow do i set a connection to quakenet?07:45
jubbidubbiduXD07:45
sonja-nyDr_Willis: I have that running on my other pc07:45
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sonja-nyits quick , but i needed a HDD install > i normally use slax kill bill07:45
Dr_Willissonja-ny:  heh -  for less then 100mb - its sort of amazing.07:45
jubbidubbidu-.-07:46
Dr_Willisslax has some nicer features in ways.. and annoying features in other ways. ;)07:46
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sonja-nyDr_Willis: you are right there sir, but i want a full time pc ... so this is it, its a 64 AMD and kubuntu did  all i neded to07:46
jubbidubbidu---:( how do i set a connection to quakenet :( ?07:46
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gtwysonja-ny: how about documents, slide show presentations,07:46
gtwygames07:46
jubbidubbidu"-.-07:47
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gtwyimage editing07:47
gtwygimp doesnt cut it07:47
GusjI`ve encountered some problems when trying to install Kubuntu. Neither of my USB-drives are detected, so I can`t use my mouse or my keyboard07:47
sonja-nyDr_Willis: I use slax kil bill to fix up other persons pcs , yes i love it ..but I need a full time pc , and kubuntu has WON me over from suse. fed ZOD etc07:47
jubbidubbiduGIMP, Open Office?07:47
Dr_Willisgime does all i need. :)07:47
GusjCould anyone help me with that?07:47
scheurijubbidubbidu: what are you chatting with? what programm?=07:47
jubbidubbiduGimp rulezZzZ07:47
scheuri*program?07:47
gtwyDr_Willis: then you dont do much image editing.. gimp is powerful but the UI is horrid07:47
Dr_Williswife likes these more idiot-friendly-instant editing programs. for her pictures..07:47
jubbidubbiduKonversation07:47
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jubbidubbiduscheuri07:48
sonja-nygtwy: games = PS3 or Xblox , i use my pc for work ????/07:48
Dr_Willisgtwy:  whatever.. it does what i need...07:48
scheurijubbidubbidu: press F2 (or FILE -> SERVER LIST)07:48
gtwyDr_Willis: how about editing vectors?07:48
Dr_Willisi learned to use gimp years ago..07:48
Dr_Willisi saw a vetor editor the other day.. linux version just came out.. is also out for windows.. but i cant rember the name or url07:48
jubbidubbidudo i have to add quakenet @scheuri07:48
scheurijubbidubbidu: then press NEW... and add the quakenet server into the appropriate fields07:48
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scheurijubbidubbidu: yes...so you can connect to it07:48
Dr_Willisnot that i need vector editing.. but it was a neat program. too bad i cant rember its name07:49
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gtwywhen adobe releases their software for linux, linux will be a 100% complete replacement for osx (and winblows)07:49
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dhqfdoving: Dr_Willis: i need help compiling my intel drivers07:49
sonja-nyadobe,,, wow they are so FAR behind bill gates they are all covered in his C R A P07:49
GusjCould anyone tell me how I can make USB-ports to work, only using the keyboard?07:49
DaSkreechgtwy: Not till we have Virii :)07:50
jubbidubbiduscheuri: what data exactly do i need to kow about quakenet to add it :? just typing the name twice dont do it07:50
Dr_WillisI cant afford adobe software.. so its allready a replacement for me.07:50
gtwyneither can i ;)07:50
scheurijubbidubbidu: well, you need to know the name of the quakenet server....I dont know that...07:50
Dr_Williswork time for me.. byeee.07:50
sonja-nyDr_Willis:  afford or want to PAY, that is the Question lol07:50
jubbidubbidu:P i guess its google again07:50
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litropyHi, all - I'm getting error messages upon apt-get install like this: Failed to fetch http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main-edgy/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)07:50
litropysee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304204 for more info07:51
scheurijubbidubbidu: press NEW... then use a name of your choice for NETWORK and then ADD... a server (in the server box)...the server you need to know...do not know where to find out07:52
jubbidubbiduscheuri: thanks, i got it ^^ just found out the server on quakenet.org ^^07:53
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scheurijubbidubbidu: welcome07:54
GusjOk then, anyone else had problems installing Kubuntu because the USB-ports are missing?07:55
jubbidubbidunope?07:56
jubbidubbidu:P07:56
dhqi need help compiling my grafx drivers07:56
sonja-nyok so if i load the new 64bit amd desktop and burn the iso , am I then into KDe only mode ? cause i loaded this Beast from a live ubuntu cd rom ?<    I aint complaining its love love love and more love I even got it into KDE mode, do I need the AMD64 bit iso and a new install before i start editing ?07:56
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ubuntuhello all07:57
pyonghow can i run NOATuN07:57
sonja-nyhi ubuntu07:57
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sonja-nypyong: from a term ?07:58
pyongnoatun media player07:58
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ubuntui am having a little trouble ... my windows boot is messed up, so i booted the kubuntu live cd and i would like to ftp my files to recover them to another pc07:58
ubuntubut my windows partition does not mount07:59
sonja-nyubuntu: was your winsux infected ?07:59
ubuntuno07:59
ubuntui think its a registry error07:59
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ubuntui was ripping a cd07:59
ubuntuand the power went out08:00
ubuntunow, it goes to the winxp progress bar and restarts08:00
ubuntuover and over08:00
sonja-nywas the Cd music ?08:00
ubuntuyes08:00
pyongsame thing that i encountered08:00
ubuntui did some research and it said that it was a registry problem08:01
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sonja-nythank SONY they have a nice Virus installed on music CDS to STOP people ripping, google it, there are people SUIng them08:01
ubuntuits not sony ...08:01
sonja-nyyes, but the rest of  the music industry Joined in08:02
sonja-nylike my Dodge RAM , is a mercedes benz ?08:02
ubuntuthis is an independent label ... they don't have enough cash to use any drm08:02
sonja-nyregistry sounds to me like a MBR hack08:02
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sonja-nynot nice but easy to fix08:02
ubuntureally?08:03
filip_how do i find a list with the most common commands for the console in KDE?08:03
sonja-nyfilip_: try kde help ?08:03
gtwysonja-ny: virus?08:03
sonja-nygtwy: no idea Sir, I dont do Bill Gates, he sucks08:03
filip_sonja-ny  what is that? were?08:03
ubuntulol08:04
gtwysonja-ny: its nice to have a computer of each os08:04
ubuntuany idea why my windows partition does not mount in kubuntu?08:04
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sonja-nyfilip_:  google common commands for KDe commands08:04
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sonja-nygtwy: YEs if you play GAMES on a PC, Me I use ps3 or Xblox , my PC is my wotk i need it to do, as I ask it too , not to SPAM me08:05
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DaSkreechubuntu: If it doesn't mount it will tell you why08:06
ubuntuxbox is m$ too tho =P08:06
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sonja-nyubuntu: my Xbox runs linux too ,, and it works08:07
ubuntuit says08:07
ubuntuCould not mount device.08:08
ubuntumount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab08:08
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ubuntui ran qtparted and the partition shows up there08:09
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StratmanCJsorry, i have to register my nick08:10
StratmanCJdoing it now08:10
intelikeyubuntu the syntax for mount is;  sudo mount /dev/"device" /"mountpoint" "-options if needed"08:11
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StratmanCJmount: mount point /mountpoint does not exist08:12
intelikeydevice in that case would be hda1  mountpoint would be something like media/hda1    and probably not any option needed.08:12
StratmanCJooh08:12
StratmanCJok08:12
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sonja-nyintelikey: what advantages does SUDO have against just switch user SU, is this a ONE of command ?08:13
litropyAll, I've been trying to figure this out for days and no one seems to know what's up. I've gained absolutely no ground; any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Once again, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1788570#post1788570 for more info; thanks in advance08:13
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intelikeysonja-ny the advantage in ubuntu is that su wont work by default    or should i say you can not use it to switch to root   (su will work for switching to another user account)  read the writeup on the wiki.08:14
intelikey!root08:14
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:14
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intelikeythat ^08:14
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novohello08:14
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sonja-nyintelikey: thank you , i noticed i had troubles switching and never knew why08:15
litropywhoops - make that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=178857008:15
intelikeysonja-ny short answer is "no root password"  but you should probably read the page before you go setting one.08:15
novoI'm new at IRC08:16
StratmanCJok, i tried08:16
StratmanCJubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt08:16
StratmanCJand that worked08:16
StratmanCJbut now i can not get into that directory because i do not have permissions08:16
sonja-nyintelikey: got you and thank YOU Sir, i am just burning the real amd 64 for my pc AMD into Kubuntu08:16
StratmanCJany idea what the default su password is08:17
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intelikeyStratmanCJ please read what is in front of you.08:17
sonja-nyStratmanCJ:  use sudo ?08:17
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h3sp4wnStratmanCJ: sudo -i (will give you a root login shell if that is what you want)08:18
virogenesishiiiiiiii !!!!08:18
StratmanCJthank you08:18
virogenesisI was just wondering if anyone can tell me how to mount a SMBFS onto my hard drive08:18
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virogenesisIf anyone can tell me that would be so cool ;) cus i've been messing with it for like a hour and I can't find the smbmount command...08:19
sonja-nyso SUDO is a security , so that the end users , not the geeks , dont leave the ROOT acount open ?, its just A one off command ???08:19
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intelikey!smb08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
intelikey!samba08:19
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:19
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StratmanCJok, it moutned there, and i am logged in as root08:19
intelikeyyeah sudo is supposed to protect the ubuntu system from it's owner.08:19
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StratmanCJi see the files in konsole08:20
StratmanCJbut i do not have permission in konqueror08:20
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londo4How can i Edit /etc/sources.list?08:21
Bubba_Gumphelp!08:21
zorglu_londo4: "kdesu kate /etc/sources.list" <- type that in a terminal08:21
Bubba_Gumpinstalled a graphics driver and the only resolution i have is 640x48008:21
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Bubba_Gumpany way to increase the resolution?08:21
intelikeylondo4 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:21
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garrett_novoHi all08:22
sonja-nyintelikey: sorry I ask strange questions and now understand why , many users wil leave the SU switch user, not super user OPEN, thus being able to be hackable ?08:22
linux_hi all. were can I select that I can remote controle my linux server ?08:22
intelikeyheh zorglu_ you out typed me.08:22
zorglu_:)08:22
virogenesisNah I don't seem to have the -t smbfs08:22
virogenesisI don't know why08:22
bubu1uklinux_: u mean console remote or x11?08:22
Bubba_Gumphow do i increase the screen resolution?08:23
virogenesisdoes anyone know how can u install the smbfs File System08:23
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linux_x1108:23
garrett_novoI just got kubunt installed and I did a kernel update via adept.  When I rebooted my atheros drivers didn't load.  I tried manually loading them and found that they didn't automatically get rebuilt for the new kernel.  Is there an easy way to rebuild all modules when I get a kernel update?08:23
bubu1uku need vnc server.08:23
linux_oke thanks, I will look08:24
bubu1uklinux_: many of them, look what u like. ;)08:24
intelikeysonja-ny any system is hackable.   sudo add's more precieved security in the hands on area than it does in the remote area.   it's a "save me from myself" thing.   suposed to make the new user think before they issue a command that will wreck the system.08:24
linux_:D08:24
sonja-nyintelikey: Thank you , I was thinking about the same idea and its a good step forward..i download my real  AMD 64, iso and burned it , I hope I will be back straight into 64 KDE Thank you for all your help08:25
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bubu1uklinux_: look either for security things. if it supports encryption etc....08:29
intelikeysonja-ny the old "you don't know my user name" argument generally fails when one logs onto an irc server   (most people logon with their user name)  thus the clever scriptkiddy would just try to access your box as you and crack your password to have full access to the box   while root exists on all linux systems most people that set a root password make it more secure than they do their own password... thus ubuntu's  sudo "08:29
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intelikeyhowever if one would properly configure the /etc/sudoers file sudo does have enormus advantages in security.08:30
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intelikey{never mind my spelling, i know it's terrable}08:31
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londo4how can I save a edited /etc/sources.list?08:32
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intelikeylondo4 you can't you didn't use kdesu  like we told you.08:32
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Angratafhow can i deinstall the complet (!) kde with apt-get?08:33
intelikeyor optionally click the save icon.08:33
compagdoHi, need to have java installed. Can someone help? tks08:33
Angrataf!java | compagdo08:33
ubotucompagdo: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository08:33
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compagdotks08:34
intelikeyAngrataf that wont be easy.  removing qt  and then running deborphan will get close i think.08:34
londo4Also with kdesu I can`t save it08:34
linux_oke, I will do that. but I new with linux, so I first try to install the vnc server08:34
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intelikeylondo4 kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list      and you can't save from the file menu ?08:36
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scoateshi08:36
londo4I can`t08:36
scoatesI can't seem to get my swap to turn on at boot. I've tried both: "UUID=42edaa17-b0cb-4220-ad06-0c3c47599ffe swap sw 0 0" and "/dev/hda5 swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab, and nothing in /proc/swaps ; however, if I "sudo swapon -U 42edaa17-b0cb-4220-ad06-0c3c47599ffe" the swap shows up. Help?08:36
gtwymakeactive?08:36
gtwyno no08:37
gtwyhold up let me look i had this happen before08:37
scoatesok08:37
intelikeythere are only two reasons that root could not write to a file   1 fs mounted ro    2 set imutable    i doubt the secnd.  so check the first.08:38
gtwywhen you made /dev/hda5 did you do mkswap /dev/hda5 ?08:38
scoatesgtwy: yes -- it works fine if I make it swapon, manually08:38
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sconesmjn08:39
garrett_novoIs there any special way to upgrade modules when you upgrade the kernel?08:39
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intelikeygarrett_novo yes08:39
garrett_novointelikey: what would that be?08:40
gtwyscoates: does sudo swapon /dev/hda5 work08:40
gtwyor only when you use the UUID08:40
scoatesno08:40
scoatesUUID only08:40
gtwyhmm08:40
intelikeygarrett_novo depends on how you are upgrading the kernel of course.08:40
scoatesI take it back08:40
scoatesthat does work now08:40
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scoatesat one point it didn't, but I don't know what was in my fstab, then08:40
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gtwyhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223182&page=3&highlight=uuid08:41
gtwyscoates: does that help?08:41
scoateschecking08:41
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intelikeygarrett_novo point is you have asked a null question.  you have left us to guess at what path you are taking to try to get to a desired point.08:42
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gtwyit seems the command that could help would be: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -alh08:42
Bubba_Gumppower manager is showing 0% charge and 0.00h remaining to charge08:42
garrett_novointelikey: my first comment explained it...08:42
Bubba_Gumpanyway to solve this power manager issue?08:42
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garrett_novoI just got kubunt installed and I did a kernel update via adept.  When I rebooted my atheros drivers didn't load.  I tried manually loading them and found that they didn't automatically get rebuilt for the new kernel.  Is there an easy way to rebuild all modules when I get a kernel08:43
intelikeyk then the modules are updated with the kernel.08:43
garrett_novointelikey: so why would my madwifi module not get updated?08:43
bernd_anyone know a small live distribution i can decraese the size of my main partition with?08:44
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scoatesgtwy: I'll give it a whirl -- thanks08:45
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intelikeycause it's marked 'hold' maybe   or because it's not part of the kernel package      or perhaps there was no change on that module....    care to do a little investigating and or explaining what you have already found.08:45
intelikeygarrett_novo ^08:45
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scoatesnext question (that I've not been able to track down).. after about 18 hours of Xorg uptime, it starts to get REALLY sluggish. I can fix this by restarting X, but that's annoying. How do I diagnose (and fix) this problem?08:46
garrett_novointelikey:  I rebooted into the new kernel.  wireless didn't work, I did an lsmod, ath_pci was not loaded, I tried a modprobe ath_pci, it said the module was not found, I searched for the module and it was located under the old kernel modules but not the new one08:47
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garrett_novointelikey:  I have been a gentoo user in the past, so the whole adept system is something new for me08:47
bernd_ anyone know a small live distribution i can decraese the size of my main partition with?08:48
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intelikeygarrett_novo hmmm  have you checked the wiki's on that ?    just asking.08:48
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intelikey!wifi08:48
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:48
intelikeygarrett_novo also what kernel version ?08:49
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h3sp4wngarrett_novo: make sure you have the correct restricted modules for your kernel version08:50
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h3sp4wngarrett_novo: (you may not have restricted enabled for the security repo (which madwifi updates would come in)08:52
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garrett_novointelikey: 2.6.15-27 is the new one and 2.6.15-26 is the old08:52
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garrett_novointelikey: does a minor revision even need a module rebuild?08:53
DaSkreechhi h3sp4wn08:53
h3sp4wn hi08:53
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intelikeygarrett_novo i'm not seeing that module name in any kernel i have.    and i have 2.6.26*  so what did you upgrade from ?        and to answer that question ^ generally no but the versioning may need updated in the modules them selves   i.e.  the kernel can be compiled with a version testing facility that will try to load near versions   but i'm not sure if ubuntu uses that or not.08:54
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garrett_novoh3sp4wn: I have all of the repositories enabled08:54
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intelikeys/2.6.26*/2.6.15-26*/ ^08:55
garrett_novointelikey: ??08:55
garrett_novointelikey:  ath_pci is the madwifi driver for atheros chipsets08:55
garrett_novoI used the kubuntu live cd to install from and it installed it by default08:56
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h3sp4wngarrett_novo: install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`08:57
h3sp4wngarrett_novo: if you cannot then by definition all the repositories are not enabled08:57
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ubuntu!chroot | ubuntu08:57
ubotuubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box08:57
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h3sp4wn!info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2708:57
ubotuPackage linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27 does not exist in any distro I know08:57
h3sp4wn!info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-2608:57
intelikeygarrett_novo restricted modules....  yes i don't have that.08:57
ubotuPackage linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26 does not exist in any distro I know08:58
intelikeyh3sp4wn -27 for his kernel08:58
garrett_novoI am running -26 right now08:58
h3sp4wnI was just checking whether I had typed the program name wrong (which I had)08:58
garrett_novoevent not found08:59
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intelikey!linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-38608:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
intelikey!info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-38608:59
ubotuPackage linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386 does not exist in any distro I know08:59
intelikeyubotu you are a moron/bot.09:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you are a moron/bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:00
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garrett_novoevent not found09:00
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intelikeywell i show that and   linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-68609:00
garrett_novomy kernel is -38609:00
h3sp4wnintelikey: and apt-cache policy says updates or security ?09:01
h3sp4wn(I don't have a dapper here)09:01
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intelikeyhttp://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages09:01
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intelikey  Version table:09:02
intelikey     2.6.15.12-1 009:02
intelikey        500 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/restricted Packages09:02
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h3sp4wn19:53 < h3sp4wn> garrett_novo: (you may not have restricted enabled for the security repo (which madwifi updates would come in)09:02
h3sp4wn(going round in circles here)09:03
garrett_novook, so how do i do that09:03
garrett_novoAdept, manage repositories?09:03
h3sp4wnsudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list09:03
h3sp4wnor whatever editor09:03
h3sp4wnfind the line that says dapper-security main - change to dapper-security main restricted09:04
h3sp4wnsudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade09:04
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garrett_novoh3sp4wn: ok well its doing something now09:06
garrett_novohope this works09:06
h3sp4wnaptitude-doc-en that is worth reading - if it doesn't work try manually installing the package09:06
intelikeyheh i like  sed 's/main.*/main restricted universe multiverse/g ' /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.list && sudo mv sources.list /etc/apt       but i don't recommend it without backing up your working copy... :)09:06
garrett_novoWell, i just installed yesterday so I wouldnt lose much09:07
h3sp4wnI usually just echo the one line I need (only ever run unstable so the other repos are never used)09:07
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intelikeyright.  echo the editor of choice for all hackers  (when vi is not required of course)09:08
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garrett_novook well thanks for all of the help i am going to try rebooting now09:09
garrett_novolater all09:09
intelikeywhy not just modprobe it ?09:09
intelikeynever mind.   reboot all you want,   it's your os.09:10
garrett_novoI am running the old kernel right now09:10
garrett_novothat it works on09:10
garrett_novothats the only way I can get online09:10
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intelikeyyeah i caught up   just a little late.09:11
garrett_novoyep later09:11
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ubuntu!gentoo09:13
ubotuOther Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware09:13
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scott_w|lappyhehe, go on www.microsoft.com with konqueror09:16
scott_w|lappyit makes it crash xD09:16
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DaSkreechHawkwind: Suppose a package has no changelogs?09:23
enyawix any one good with cups?09:24
claydohhttp://www.claydoh.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1909:24
claydohw00t!09:24
soulrider!pastebin09:24
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lunitikDaSkreech: all packages contain changelogs... they ought to be in /usr/share/doc/$(PACKAGE)/Changelog09:28
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DaSkreechlunitik: Ah09:29
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soulrider!nvdidia09:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvdidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:29
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soulrider!nvidia09:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
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slow-motionhallo09:34
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slow-motionnervt niht, ich mach hausaufgaben09:35
slow-motion+c09:35
lunitik!tell slow-motion about de09:37
lunitik!de09:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:37
steveireAny installation experts about? I want to do a more interactive install from the start. Once when I was installing (Alternate CD) I chose not to install grub, and got to a installation todo list of everything, and had to resume the installation at that point. Can I start the install interactively?09:37
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InkWellhow do i install the nvidia video driver?09:37
steveire!ga09:37
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Admiral_Chicago!nvidia | InkWell09:38
ubotuInkWell: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:38
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InkWellThe file file:///home/castags/Desktop/nvida/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9625-pkg2.run is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.09:40
InkWell???09:40
InkWellwhat am i doing wrong or not doing?09:41
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Admiral_ChicagoInkWell: follow the guide09:41
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fireloophello, we're trying to configure an asus usb wireless card with kubuntu, but no luck so far. we've tried the kubuntu network administration tools, but it fails to record our parameters... Any ideas?09:43
fireloopnevertheless, the asus wl-167g card seems to be correctly recognized09:43
SmrtJustinMy mute on my keyboard brings up the kmix OSD that says "Mute on" and "Mute off" but it has no affect on the volume of my audio.09:43
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sparrwwhats the "right" way to get java working in firefox on *ubuntu?09:54
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ex_anyone got a link for how to install tar gz files, <-- noob09:56
ibertin which file is the configuration of the taskbar stored?09:58
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InkWelldont see Administration in system menu09:59
sparrw~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc maybe09:59
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ibertsparrw: looks good10:00
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sparrwThe following extra packages will be installed:  gksu gnome-media-common libcroco3 libgail-common libgail18 libgda2-3 libgda2-common libgdl-1-0 libgdl-1-common  libgksu1.2-1 libgksu2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-media0 libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0  libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgsf-1-114 libgsf-1-common libgtkhtml2-0  libgtksourceview-common libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgtop2-7 libgtop2-common lib10:01
Tm_TEh?10:01
poe_tryin to install nvidia drivers followed binarydriverhowto/nvidia but when it says type the following in terminal "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" it says command not found. newbie10:02
ibertsparrw: thats it :-) Now I can easily replicate my desktops over the lan... thanks10:02
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sparrwibert: should replicate all of ~, no?  ~/.* at least?  ~/.kde/ for sure?10:03
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ibertsparrw: not sure on this. jsut playing around. are you replicating it that way?10:04
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Ace2016hi all10:05
franhi10:06
Ace2016i wrote ran ./configure and make as root in my home dir, and i need to allow access to the files for me without root access10:06
sparrwibert_: with very few exceptions, i tend to replicate the entire disk10:06
Ace2016how do i set the permissions back to my user instead of root?10:06
sparrwAce2016: sudo chown -R username:username *10:06
sparrwthats kinda broad, but i generally dont want root to own anything under my home dir10:07
Ace2016i tried chmod 777 -R * what does that do?10:07
sparrwthat means anyone can modify the files10:07
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sparrwbut they still belong to root10:07
sparrwalso makes every file +x, which is annoying10:08
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Ace2016oh oh10:08
frananyone having trouble shutting down his/her laptop?10:08
Ace2016it still won't allow me access10:09
Ace2016./configure: line 2488: confdefs.h: Permission denied10:09
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Ace2016oh i give up, i'll redo it as root and redownload from cvs and compile when the peek time download restrictions are lifted at 11pm10:11
ex_peak10:12
Ace2016wait, there are no problems with compiling as root is there?10:12
sonja-nyDamn that was the hardest install ever , but it worked10:12
Ace2016sonja-ny: hardest install?10:13
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sonja-nyAce2016:  Kubuntu from a fresh install10:13
Ace2016tried gentoo?10:13
Bubba_Gumpwhat is linux mint10:13
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sonja-nyi have 6 live cds that work, I wanted a HDD install on an AMD 64 bit.. I am not complaining10:14
Admiral_ChicagoBubba_Gump: Ubunut with mulitmedia stuff (propriety)10:14
Ace2016Bubba_Gump: its just ubuntu, with a blue colour scheme and propriatary codecs like real and w32codecs but it still uses gnome10:14
Admiral_Chicagoit's pretty much under copyright legalt problems10:14
Bubba_GumpAdmiral_Chicago: i'm guessing easier to stay with ubuntu, then install your choices :)10:14
Admiral_ChicagoBubba_Gump: definetly more legal10:15
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Admiral_Chicagogotta run bb on sunday10:15
Bubba_Gump:)10:15
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sonja-nyKubuntu CREW, my hat OFF, well done and Thank YOU, it froze a litle on install , but I am here live ,, most wicked ..Respect10:15
Ace2016what we need is slicK yea like mint but with KDE :) and obviously it'll look much much better10:15
Ace2016it goes without saying10:15
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Werzi2001hi@ll10:16
Ace2016hi10:16
sonja-nymoin moin fishkopf10:16
Ranma2264I'm using apache2 and I can access to my test website via localhost ex:localhost/test... but when I try to use my ip to acces I get a 403 error how can I solve this?10:16
Werzi2001ist vielleicht eine dumme frage aber kann ich ein file handle eines programms schlieen (bzw. auf /dev/null umlenken)?10:17
ex_the only german i know is on the volkswagon adds10:17
sonja-nyWerzi2001:  es ist hier nur ein English chat, versuchs das -de Raum sorry10:17
Werzi2001sorry i didn't know10:18
sonja-nyWerzi2001:  dont be sorry , be happy10:18
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Werzi2001is it possible to close a file handle of a running program (or redirect it to /dev/null)?10:18
ijacek!cz10:19
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.10:19
sonja-nyWerzi2001:  I would LIST my running apz and just KILL aka terminate the program10:20
Werzi2001sonja-ny: but what is when i dont want to kill the program... :(10:20
jontechey, real quick where is the apache2.conf file on kubuntu (or can someone tell me how to bind my apache2 to an ip?)10:21
Werzi2001or when i cannot kill the program :(10:21
Ace2016sudo killall bal?10:21
sonja-nyWerzi2001: ok lets say we SAVE the parts to N email ? restart it and re Download ?10:21
Ace2016sudo killall appname?10:21
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Werzi2001for example:10:22
Werzi2001i have a program that blocks /dev/dsp (sound)... i need the program... cannot kill it :(10:22
Werzi2001but i want to hear the sound of another program... what to do?10:22
Ace2016doesn't alsa do dmixing out of the box?10:23
Werzi2001is it possible to change the file handle of the program to /dev/null?10:23
Werzi2001yes but the program doesnt support alsa... just oss10:23
sonja-nyAce2016:  YES it does10:23
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Ace2016Werzi2001: use aoss10:23
Werzi2001aoss?10:24
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Ace2016alsa wrapper for oss10:24
sonja-nyapt-get aoss10:24
Werzi2001and then?10:24
Werzi2001everything is fine? :)10:24
Ace2016i use to use aoss fireflx before flash supported alsa sound output10:24
Ace2016you just have to stick aoss in front of the command10:24
Werzi2001works with every programm?10:25
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Ace2016well you could just try it, it should work10:25
Werzi2001ok i will :)10:25
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Werzi2001thx a lot10:25
Ace2016what program is this?10:25
sonja-nyWerzi2001:  nope not all programs jusr sound !!!10:25
Werzi2001thats enough for me :)10:26
sonja-nyWerzi2001: schonnen Tag noch , und schlaff recht gut10:26
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Werzi2001du auch (same to you)10:26
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sonja-nyWerzi2001:  linux for life, oder Vorschprung durch technic aka Audi10:27
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Werzi2001geek by nature... linux by choice ;)10:27
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sonja-nyWerzi2001:  love you . i hope we helped10:28
Werzi2001yes you did :)10:28
Werzi2001thx10:28
Werzi2001bye@ll10:29
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Ace2016bye10:29
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sonja-nyWerzi2001: Abend und danke10:30
sonja-nysorry about the German, I know I should have directed him else where, but we solved his problem10:31
sonja-nymy bad so sorry10:31
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jontecwhat's the command to shutdown apache2?10:31
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nagyvhello! is there any program that allows me to control my kde (and amarok) with a bluethooth device (my mobile phone)? (my infra port is not recognized, so lirc is not an option)10:34
nagyvjontec: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop10:34
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foxhound31hello i want to load nvidia graphics but10:45
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foxhound31nvidia-glx is not available for my kernel version10:45
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foxhound31is it possible to compile a kernel module for my version of the kernel and is it difficult to do10:46
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foxhound31i have kernel 2.6.17.10-110:47
foxhound31and nvidia is 2.6.17.6-110:47
foxhound31and nvidia-glx is 2.6.17.6-110:48
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scoateshi. after a while, Xorg gets really sluggish, and starts consuming larger-than-normal amounts of CPU every time I do anything. For example, the faster I type this, the higher my CPU goes. Moving windows pegs my CPU at 100%. How can I fix this (without restarting Xorg every few hours).10:49
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foxhound31memory leak10:49
foxhound31hmm10:49
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foxhound31not a helper here but10:50
foxhound31are you running anything that might be leaking memory10:50
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scoatesit doesn't _seem_ to be a memory issue. swap an ram stay pretty stable over time.. it's CPU that peaks..10:51
scoatesand everything _could_ be leaking memory..10:51
foxhound31indeed10:51
scoatesso.. if that's it, how do I find out what's leaking?10:52
foxhound31ah well the devils in the detail always difficult to find10:54
foxhound31and by the sound of it its not a meory leak10:54
foxhound31memory*10:54
foxhound31from what you tell me10:55
foxhound31swap an ram stay pretty stable over time10:55
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scoatesswap grows, but never fills10:55
foxhound31so its some process that is behaving badly10:56
scoatesthe worst thing is that by even holding a key down, I can peg my CPU10:56
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foxhound31and causing excessive load10:56
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scoatestop shows Xorg eating >90% when I do that10:56
scoates(CPU)10:56
dxdemetrioucan I set the /etc/environment to not translate the programs, but to support greek (el_GR.UTF8)?10:57
foxhound31so in system guard10:57
foxhound31is there anyone process10:57
foxhound31that eating up more cpu than another10:58
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foxhound31its all greek to me10:58
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scoatesXorg only. Everything else normally sits at below 3%10:59
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scoatesI've got to wonder if it's the video drive (nvidia), but I don't know how to check10:59
foxhound31on my system it only takes -5%11:00
foxhound31on my system it only takes 0.5%11:00
foxhound31and your looking at all processes not just own11:00
scoatesat idle, with only ksysguard updating and konversation in the background (and a ton of other stuff open, but not visible), Xorg consumes ~10% CPU if I'm not typing, and 50%+ if I am11:01
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scoatesyes. Xorg is root's process11:01
scoates(for example)11:01
globehello.  will kde-core install the desktop manager or do I have to dl all 700Megs of the kde packages?11:01
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jagerjesus11:02
jagerthis is huge11:02
LjLglobe, just type "sudo apt-get install kde-core", and you'll be let known how much it's going to download, before it actually starts11:03
globeLjL: right, but will that give me the kde desktop?11:03
jageris dist-updgrading to edgy going to be much pain and darknesS?11:03
LjLglobe: the core, yes11:03
LjLUbotu, please tell globe about kde | globe, you have a private message from Ubotu11:03
jageri just started and it's crashing out11:03
globeLjL: sweet. thats only 75Megs as opposed to 75011:04
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foxhound31well scoates as i say i'm not a helper here so ther isnt much else i can think of sorry to cop out11:04
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foxhound31need to go11:05
scoatess'ok.11:05
scoatesthanks11:05
foxhound31welcome11:05
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jagerbbl11:06
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Schalkenwhat is the command to have grub update it's menu?11:07
LjLSchalken: there is none. when you edit menu.lst, the changed should be reflected automatically at next boot without any intervention11:08
flaccidSchalken: /sbin/update-grub11:08
Schalkenflaccid: thats the one, cheers!11:09
flaccidsweet11:09
SchalkenLjL: update-grub attempts automatic kernel detection and writes it to menu.lst11:09
LjLyes, i thought you were asking something else though11:09
Schalkenoh okay :)11:09
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animimotushi11:19
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scotchiyo yo11:19
animimotusfor my kde I look for a application like conky11:19
animimotusscotchi: :)11:19
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Hawkwindanimimotus: Why not just install conky, it's in the repos11:20
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animimotusah ok, it works well with kde too?11:21
HawkwindOf course11:21
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animimotusHawkwind: I must install devilspie too?11:21
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hyper_chhiho, who is responsible for the bot in here?11:34
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fdovinghyper_ch: why do you ask?11:36
hyper_chfdoving: because it would be nice to have a german variant in the #kubuntu-de channel :)11:36
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fdovinghyper_ch: seveas is responsible for it.11:37
hyper_chfdoving: thx for the info :)11:38
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roninohi11:40
globehello11:40
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roninoHow can i prevent eth0 from being started at boot? I only want wlan0 to be started11:40
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hyper_chronino: can't you deactivate it in the network menu?11:41
globeI am getting the error "could not start kstartupconfig" from my newly installed kde session11:41
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roninohyper_ch: hmm, currently i'm in console ;-)11:41
hyper_chronino: you could delete it from the config11:42
roninohyper_ch: is it that "auto eth0" line? I want to keep the config for later11:42
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hyper_chronino: I think it is... but I've never mingled with the network config files :)11:43
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hyper_chjust a backup first :)11:43
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roninohyper_ch: oki, thx11:44
roninohyper_ch: it is indeed the "auto eth0" line11:45
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hirshi ppl11:45
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Xal2Hi11:48
Xal2Where is the location of setup files specified in the Kubuntu install disk?11:49
Xal2I would like to put all the files on the Kubuntu CD in a separate folder.11:49
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unix_infidelXal2: what do you mean setup files?11:50
Xal2well all the files on the kubuntu install disk11:51
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Xal2like instead of having everything in the root of the CD, everything would be in /kubuntu on the CD11:51
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unix_infidelXal2: i fail to see what purpose that serves?11:51
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BDDFXal2: what are you trying to do?11:52
unix_infidelespecially when if its in a sub dir its no longer bootable.11:52
Xal2I'm trying to make a DVD that has multiple Linux distros available to install, and a few Windows installations.11:52
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unix_infidelXal2: you mean a backup?11:52
Xal2Booting isn't a problem, like I said.11:52
Xal2No11:52
Xal2I mean a DVD that I can install several different Linux distros from11:52
Xal2To do this, I need the distros in separate folders.11:53
Xal2The installer needs to know where to look for the files.11:53
unix_infidelXal2: so how do you plan on making the the "install files" bootable when they are on the dvd?11:53
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Xal2with isolinux11:53
Xal2The DVD uses CDShell which comes with isolinux.11:54
unix_infidelyou mean have isolinux boot, load into RAM, and then switch out the optical media and point isolinux at the /boot of the given linux 'setup files'11:55
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Xal2What do you mean by switch out?11:56
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unix_infidelXal2: i have no idea, how isolinux works.11:57
unix_infidelbut you can mount the iso for the given linux distro with mount command.11:57
unix_infideland then just cp that into whatever dest dir.11:57
Xal2That doesn't work for some reason.11:57
Xal2Oh that11:57
Xal2yeah11:57
Xal2Thats not what I need for this. Getting the files into a folder is a no brainer, but telling the installer where to find the relocated files is the tough part.11:58
unix_infidelLike i said, I have no idea how isolinux works.11:58
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roninoI got a Logitech optical wheel mouse, problem: The scroll wheel only scrolls down, not up, what can i do?12:00
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summatusmentisdoes XGL or AIGLX + Beryl or Compiz work?12:03
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Hawkwindsummatusmentis: Yes12:03
Hawkwind!beryl | summatusmentis12:03
ubotusummatusmentis: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl12:03
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summatusmentisHawkwind, thanks, I'll potentially be coming from a debian etch install where I couldn't get it working12:04
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summatusmentisdoes ubuntu have the same issues debian was w/ mozilla?12:06
Xal2What issues?12:07
soulriderhey Hawkwind12:07
k_osh!raid12:08
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO12:08
summatusmentisXal2, copyright issues, causing all mozilla products to be renamed in the debian repos12:08
summatusmentisbecause debian didn't want to submit their patches to mozilla before releasing it12:09

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