[12:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72648 in launchpad-support-tracker "Combine "Link Existing Bug" and "Create Bug Report"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72648
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72658 in malone "Can't move a bug from product X to Y even if I'm a Y bug contact" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72658
[05:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72669 in blueprint "No way of marking duplicate specifications" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72669
[06:46] <jamesh> mpt: you left your USB headset in the hotel room when you left
[08:33] <mpt> jamesh, oops
[08:33] <mpt> Do you have it now?
[08:35] <jamesh> mpt: yeah
[08:37] <mpt> I brought it in the hope that I'd get some help in getting Ekiga working :-)
[08:38] <mpt> I don't particularly need it though, so feel free to keep it
[08:39] <jamesh> I can try and post it back if you want
[08:39] <jamesh> I don't need a second headset, and it is yours
[09:09] <mpt> I have a non-USB headset
[09:33] <mpt> jamesh, so thanks, but it can wait until the next LP meeting :-)
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72282 in Ubuntu "After configuring my internet broadband connection to connect Ubuntu, it is not booting." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72282
[09:43] <sabdfl> dobra utra lunchpadders
[09:45] <mpt> Haere mai!
[10:01] <danilo_> sabdfl:   ;)
[10:13] <sabdfl> hey danilos... think i need a refresher course
[10:15] <danilos> sabdfl: nah, this is just Serbian, so not entirely the same, but similar enough to be understandablewe use "j" instead of "" for the same sound :) 
[10:15] <danilos> also, check slovio.com: esperanto for Slavic people ;)
[11:13] <laxer> is there anyone here?
[11:14] <laxer> i've requested original CDs of older ubuntu version
[11:15] <jamesh> laxer: currently the only version being shipped via shipit.ubuntu.com is dapper
[11:15] <laxer> on the manual displays that the CDs will arrive from six to six weeks
[11:15] <laxer> six to ten weeks*
[11:15] <laxer> yes, i don't mind
[11:16] <laxer> whether the CDs will arrive earlier than six weeks
[11:16] <laxer> i'm from Bulgaria
[11:16] <laxer> and I really want to install ubuntu on my pc :-0
[11:17] <jamesh> laxer: the delivery time can be quite variable, which is why such a large range is given
[11:17] <laxer> jamesh, okay
[11:18] <laxer> and where the CD's come from?
[11:18] <jamesh> laxer: if you want to get Ubuntu quicker, you could download an ISO image (maybe find a local mirror) and burn it to CD
[11:18] <stub> They are shipped from Amsterdam, so they could well get to you quicker 
[11:18] <laxer> it's great
[11:18] <laxer> i'm from bulgaria as I already said
[11:19] <laxer> amsterdam is comparatively near :>
[11:19] <laxer> jamesh, my download speed is very slow
[11:19] <laxer> 10 kb/sec
[11:20] <laxer> if i download it with that speed it's better to wait the CDs
[11:20] <laxer> because they'll arrive, but the downloading will be not finished :D
[11:21] <laxer> OK, I'll wait for the CDs
[11:21] <stub> You might be able to order a DVD from amazon.de too - not sure if the European amazon stocks the DVDs or if it is only the US store that does.
[11:22] <laxer> where are you from?
[11:23] <stub> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu#localdistrib has some other distributers
[11:23] <stub> Me? Bangkok.
[11:23] <laxer> nice ;)
[11:23] <jamesh> that's where you are, rather than where you're from :)
[11:24] <laxer> :)
[11:25] <stub> I'm too jetlagged to worry about metaphysics. Where are you from? Why are you here?
[11:28] <laxer> :)
[11:28] <laxer> so.. thanks guys
[11:28] <laxer> i'll wait for that cds
[11:28] <laxer> bye ;-)
[12:40] <jonh_wendell> good morning. LP today started to show SSL-related warnings. Did it happen with you too?
[12:45] <cprov> jonh_wendell: yes, it did
[12:45] <Znarl> Sorry, that's my fault.  Corrected now.
[12:45] <jonh_wendell> great
[12:47] <cprov> Znarl: great, thank you
[02:15] <stub> SteveA: What do we use now instead of config.launchpad.root_url ?
[02:17] <stub> found it I think
[02:31] <kiko> hello there boys and girls
[02:32] <LarstiQ> heya kiko 
[02:32] <kiko> how's it going LarstiQ 
[02:36] <kiko> hey SteveA 
[02:36] <kiko> back already?
[02:43] <LarstiQ> kiko: busy :)
[02:51] <SteveA> hi kiko 
[02:51] <SteveA> stub: mainsite in the vhosts
[02:52] <stub> Now need to use canonical_url(getUtility(ILaunchpadRoot), as mainsite.rooturl is often empty
[02:53] <SteveA> use it for what?
[02:53] <SteveA> that sounds a bit circular to me
[02:54] <SteveA> as canonical_url will look to use mainsite.rooturl, and if that isn't found, use the URL of the current request
[02:55] <SteveA> stub: your downtime announcement only just reached my mailbox
[02:58] <radix> SteveA: I have been wondering if canonical mail is super laggy lately
[02:58] <radix> I have been getting some notifications from launchpad up to 5 hours late, and some mailing list posts
[03:15] <stub> SteveA: For doing redirects of /pillar/name to /name
[03:37] <kiko> hey j-a-meinel: good discussion with the mozilla folks, eh?
[03:45] <flacoste> kiko-fud, stub: is the plan tomorrow to do a production update? which revision is going to be rolled out?
[04:07] <slytherin> jamesh: ping
[04:23] <flacoste> BjornT, jamesh: ping
[04:59] <kiko> flacoste, from stub's text it appears it's not a full rollout
[05:00] <kiko> just downtime
[05:00] <flacoste> ok
[05:01] <flacoste> so it's not tomorrow that the new support^W answer tracker is rolled out
[05:19] <kiko> hey SteveA?
[05:39] <newz2000> could someone tell me what the userid (that moin would see) is for this user: https://launchpad.net/people/francisco-padilla-garcia
[05:39] <newz2000> I need to find their user information in moin and it maps to an integer
[05:51] <newz2000> anyone able to help? ^^
[05:57] <j-a-meinel> kiko: Yeah, it is going pretty well. I'm not sure how things will progress with Thanksgiving being the next few days...
[05:58] <kiko> j-a-meinel, I'll try and follow up to one of the emails to get a sense of the schedule
[05:58] <kiko> j-a-meinel, has ddaa helped out in the import at all yet?
[05:58] <j-a-meinel> thanks
[05:58] <j-a-meinel> I haven't heard anything from ddaa
[05:59] <kiko> mmmm
[05:59] <j-a-meinel> I talked to Martin yesterday, and he thinks ddaa is taking some vacation time
[05:59] <kiko> I see.
[05:59] <j-a-meinel> But we haven't seen any actual comments from him.
[05:59] <kiko> j-a-meinel, did the messages from the mozilla team sound positive?
[05:59] <j-a-meinel> I think so. They at least sounded like they were following up on it.
[05:59] <j-a-meinel> Rather than just ignoring it.
[06:00] <kiko> yeah, was my impression as well
[06:00] <kiko> I will see what I can do; pinging vlad and jst on irc
[06:01] <j-a-meinel> thanks
[06:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #72730 in launchpad "Needs a way to use HTML in widget/hint" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/72730
[06:08] <kiko> newz2000, ping?
[06:09] <newz2000> kiko: pong
[06:09] <kiko> newz2000, so what can I do to help you?
[06:09] <newz2000> kiko: this person is having trouble with the wiki: https://launchpad.net/people/francisco-padilla-garcia
[06:10] <newz2000> I need to find out his uerid, an integer that moin gets from launchpad for relating userids to users
[06:10] <kiko> newz2000, I wonder if it's Person.id. let's see.
[06:11] <kiko> newz2000, try 925675
[06:11] <newz2000> That looks right
[06:12] <newz2000> Thanks kiko
[06:12] <kiko> newz2000, enjoy.
[06:21] <kiko> SteveA, ping?
[06:27] <BjornT> flacoste: pong
[06:29] <flacoste> BjornT: it's fine, i had a question about a point you raised in your review, but I've finally decided to file a bug about it
[06:30] <flacoste> the widget/hint question, it didn't even work anymore because of the implementation of FormLayout
[06:30] <flacoste> i'll comment on it at length in your review's reply which should arrive pretty soon
[06:34] <BjornT> ok
[07:03] <fdoving> can one delete a branch somehow? 
[07:06] <fdoving> I have https://launchpad.net/people/frode/+branch/kio-apt/deleteme - i want that removed.
[07:13] <kiko> fdoving, you can't at the moment -- it's a known bug
[07:14] <fdoving> ok. can i somehow request it's removal, by an admin or something? 
[08:01] <SteveA> kiko: hi
[08:26] <niemeyer> Hey folks
[08:26] <niemeyer> SteveA: What do you do when you cherrypick a change in production?
[08:26] <niemeyer> SteveA: Is every production code effectively a separate branch which is kept alive forever for reference sake?
[08:27] <niemeyer> SteveA: I mean, being replaced by a new branch based on trunk on each deployment
[08:27] <niemeyer> And having cherrypicks effectively applied on the branched branch :)
[08:32] <niemeyer> Hmm.. anyone here? :-)
[08:33] <salgado> hey niemeyer 
[08:33] <salgado> yes, that's how it works. we have a launchpad-production branch, IIRC
[08:34] <salgado> actually, we create a new branch whenever we do a new rollout
[08:36] <niemeyer> salgado: Heya
[08:36] <niemeyer> salgado: Ah, cool
[08:36] <SteveA> fdoving: hi.  Did you get your question about that branch answered?
[08:36] <niemeyer> salgado: That makes sense
[08:47] <fdoving> SteveA: yes, the initial question, but not the second one: 'can i somehow request it's removal, by an admin or something?' - thanks for asking :)
[08:51] <niemeyer> salgado: I wonder how the branching evolves
[08:51] <niemeyer> salgado: If each rollout branch is rebranched from trunk, and cherrypicks are redone each time
[08:52] <niemeyer> salgado: Or if the new rollout branch is branched from the last rollout branch, and trunk is merged in
[08:52] <niemeyer> stub might be the right one to ask about it
[08:53] <salgado> niemeyer, I think it's branched from trunk, but I've never heard of a case in which it was branched from a revision that would still require cherry picks to be made
[08:53] <SteveA> each production branch is branched from mainline
[08:53] <niemeyer> salgado: I see
[08:54] <salgado> but since I don't follow the roll outs closely enough, it may have happened
[09:18] <kiko> hey SteveA 
[09:23] <salgado> BjornT, around?
[09:26] <newz2000> SteveA: I must have been prophetic when I was discussing the hypothetical authentication between the art-site and launchpad. I had no idea it was going to get bumped up on the priority list like that.
[09:26] <newz2000> spiv: ping - msg me when you're online, I need to schedule a phone call at your earliest convenience.
[09:34] <BjornT> salgado: yeah. i'm on the phone atm, though.
[09:39] <salgado> BjornT, nevermind, actually. just found http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/710
[09:40] <SteveA> newz2000: there is going to be extra work involved in connecting it up to launchpad before we're ready with the new infrastructure
[09:40] <newz2000> what are your concerns?
[09:41] <SteveA> newz2000: I have no idea how important this is to us over the next few months.  This will take peoples' time.
[09:41] <newz2000> I agree
[09:41] <SteveA> it's a matter of finding out how important this is compared to other things folks could be doing
[09:41] <SteveA> so, the first step is quite short -- finding out what would need doing
[09:41] <newz2000> that's what I talk to spiv about, right?
[09:42] <SteveA> then next week, you and I both report back with our findings, and we come to a decision about whether it is worth the extra work
[09:42] <SteveA> newz2000: yes -- work out exactly what is involved and rougly how long it will take.  Andrew has done the work for the wikis before, so he'll have some idea.
[09:42] <newz2000> ok
[09:43] <SteveA> I'll also note that Andrew is likely to be about 10 hours jetlagged
[09:44] <lifeless> hes likely to be awake in about 5 hours
[09:44] <newz2000> ok
[09:44] <lifeless> SteveA: the time diff is 5 hours from SF to here, but hes not a morning person when at home :)
[09:45] <newz2000> wow, I'm about equidistant (timezone) from Steve and the Syndey folks.
[09:45] <newz2000> I'll be gentle on him... hopefully we can get it figured out today though, as I'm off for the rest of the week.
[09:54] <lifeless> newz2000: I suggest you email him to get him to schedule the call with you
[09:55] <newz2000> lifeless: done, just duplicating it here, to cover both bases
[09:55] <lifeless> kk
[10:04] <SteveA> kiko: ping
[10:15] <kiko> SteveA, ping
[10:42] <newz2000> is it ok to set a mailing list as the contact address for a team?
[10:43] <flacoste> newz2000: yeah, that's a common use case
[10:43] <flacoste> it means that mail to this team should be sent to the mailing list
[10:43] <newz2000> My list is subscriber post only... how do I find out what e-mail address to subscribe to the list so that launchpad can send to it?
[10:44] <flacoste> hmm, it will depends of what application the mail come from
[10:44] <flacoste> for example, notification mail from the support^W answer tracker comes from ticketXX@support.launchpad.net
[10:45] <flacoste> bug mail notifications will come from bugXX@bugs.launchpad.net (or something like that)
[10:45] <newz2000> tricky
[10:45] <flacoste> if you want the team to receive mail from launchpad you might be better to simply not set any email address
[10:46] <flacoste> individual team members will be mailed directly in that case
[10:46] <flacoste> but, this only works if all team members are registered in launchpad...
[10:47] <newz2000> that might take a little thinking to figure out the best way to handle then
[10:48] <newz2000> Thanks for the info flacoste
[10:48] <flacoste> my pleasure :-)
[11:38] <newz2000> spiv: how are you today?