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| infinity | BenC: Argh. "Ok, this is a good bear"? Die. :) | 03:29 |
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| BenC | hehe | 04:19 |
| BenC | infinity: I have a new lrm with nvidia 9629 upgrade too | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | that will make so many users happy | 04:35 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.19-6.9 uploaded - This is a bad bear. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. | ||
| BenC | infinity: lrm and linux-meta coming when I wake up in the morning | 05:38 |
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| infinity | BenC: You upgrading fglrx too? | 06:33 |
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| gnomefreak | is there a list of modules that are not in -6 somewhere i can look at? i know nvidia was missing at one point | 12:27 |
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| cypher1 | i am having problems upgrading from a 2.4 kernel to 2.6.18 kernel. Any help ? | 12:53 |
| cypher1 | the kernel panics saying it cannot mount the root filesystem | 12:54 |
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| Mithrandir | neither 2.4 or 2.6.18 is, has been or will ever be supported in Ubuntu. | 12:54 |
| cypher1 | why ? | 12:55 |
| cypher1 | so does that mean i cannot download and built my own kernel with version 2.6.18 ? | 12:55 |
| Mithrandir | 2.4? Why should it be? 2.6.18? We're skipping that; edgy was 2.6.17; feisty will be 2.6.20 | 12:55 |
| Mithrandir | you can, but I would recommend against it. Why do you want to do so? | 12:55 |
| cypher1 | Mithrandir: i wanted to learn building it | 12:56 |
| cypher1 | Mithrandir: thanks for the info | 12:56 |
| Mithrandir | you might want to read the URLs referenced in the topic here. | 12:56 |
| gnomefreak | 2.6.19 i thought | 01:04 |
| gnomefreak | atleast that is what it is now | 01:04 |
| cypher1 | yes 2.6.19 is in beta i guess | 01:06 |
| gnomefreak | rc5 iirc | 01:06 |
| cypher1 | i guess 2.6.12 and later has some issues with loading modules parallely | 01:07 |
| cypher1 | gnomefreak: sorry i did not get it | 01:07 |
| Mithrandir | gnomefreak: I said feisty "will be", not "is". :-) | 01:08 |
| gnomefreak | cypher1: if i remember correctly 2.6.19 is in the rc5 stage (in general not in ubuntu) | 01:08 |
| gnomefreak | Mithrandir: dont we normally keep the kernel we start with? | 01:09 |
| gnomefreak | like dapper started with 2.6.15 and ended with it | 01:09 |
| gnomefreak | breezy - edgy was like that | 01:09 |
| Mithrandir | gnomefreak: BenC said otherwise, iirc | 01:10 |
| cypher1 | gnomefreak: but by that would not the kernel would be little out of date when a release comes out ? | 01:10 |
| gnomefreak | release == stable not in date or out dated | 01:11 |
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| tepsipakki | BenC: bug #72696 | 01:36 |
| tepsipakki | hm, malone 72696 | 01:36 |
| tepsipakki | duh, no ubugtu here, then ;) | 01:36 |
| cypher1 | bug 72696 | 01:40 |
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| BenC | tepsipakki: ok | 02:35 |
| tepsipakki | BenC: is it feasible for dapper-updates? | 02:56 |
| tepsipakki | ah, saw your comment | 03:05 |
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| zul | hey | 03:08 |
| BenC | hey zul | 03:10 |
| zul | hey BenC how is it going? | 03:10 |
| BenC | not too bad | 03:10 |
| zul | good | 04:04 |
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| kylem | argh. out of captain crunch. | 04:42 |
| zul | heh | 04:43 |
| thom | what in the hells is captain crunch? my only reference is cryptonomicon | 04:44 |
| thom | and i've never seen it | 04:44 |
| kylem | dude. | 04:44 |
| zul | its a cereal | 04:44 |
| kylem | best. cereal. ever. | 04:44 |
| zul | fruit loops are better though | 04:44 |
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| thom | heh. do it! | 04:45 |
| Mithrandir | thom: it enabled blueboxing, which is why it's famous. At least why it's famous in geek circles. | 04:45 |
| zul | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap'n_Crunch | 04:46 |
| zul | kylem: is it still captain crunch in quebec? | 04:49 |
| kylem | no clue. | 04:49 |
| kylem | i buy groceries in ontario. | 04:49 |
| zul | ah | 04:49 |
| kylem | since i'm usually in ontario anyway, the loblows on rideau is so darn convenient on the way home... | 04:49 |
| zul | yeah it was for me when i was working in queubec | 04:50 |
| mjg59 | kylem: You don't get to visit .nl until you've been to Cambridge | 04:55 |
| kylem | hehe. | 04:56 |
| thom | mBdale's european debauchery tour! | 05:00 |
| kylem | heh. | 05:03 |
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| zul | BenC: do we want to get the mactel patches into feisty? | 05:35 |
| BenC | yeah, I'm working on them | 05:35 |
| zul | ok | 05:36 |
| dade` | :) | 05:36 |
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| zul | later...got another doctor appointment to go to | 06:04 |
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| trappist | is edgy's kernel supposed to be preemptible? I ask because it doesn't seem to be. mouse and everything get very laggy under heavy i/o load, e.g. when installing packages | 06:34 |
| dade` | trappist: it is | 06:46 |
| trappist | dade`: I see CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set, but CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and CONFIG_PREEMPT_BLK are y. mind if I ask what those mean, and how they differ from CONFIG_PREEMPT? | 06:47 |
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| trappist | ok now I get it - we preempt the big kernel lock (CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL) and we say CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y but there's no /proc/sys/kernel/voluntary_preemption, *and* CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set. so (please correct me if I'm wrong) only the big kernel lock is preemptible. | 07:13 |
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| BenC | trappist: correct | 07:33 |
| trappist | BenC: why do we not just say CONFIG_PREEMPT=y | 07:33 |
| BenC | becomes preempt isn't optimal for a kernel that is supposed to run everywhere | 07:35 |
| BenC | s/becomes/because/ | 07:36 |
| trappist | I assume having separate desktop/server kernels has been brought up and shot down | 07:36 |
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| BenC | trappist: I guess you haven't noticed that we have a separate server and desktop kernel already :) | 07:38 |
| BenC | even on strictly desktop, preempt has some areas where it caused enough of a problem for enough people that the benfits were outweighed | 07:39 |
| cmvo | BenC: Hi! I know this is devel only, but it there a way to set the sequence drivers are loaded during boot? | 07:44 |
| BenC | cmvo: can you describe your scenario? | 07:48 |
| BenC | I'm actually working on something along those lines, I'd be interested in your use case | 07:48 |
| cmvo | BenC: I've got a system with a ICH6 with 4 SATA HDs connected to it and also a promise SX-2 | 07:50 |
| BenC | cmvo: So you're concern is just sdX device ordering? | 07:51 |
| cmvo | to which a 5th HD is connected temporarily for backups. | 07:51 |
| BenC | cmvo: you're problem can be solved in other ways, mainly by using UUID instead of the device name, for partitions | 07:51 |
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| cmvo | With no HD connected to the SX-2 the four HDs are sda-sdd. With a HD connected to the SX-2 this becomes sda and the others are sdc-sdf | 07:53 |
| BenC | cmvo: Right, you should replace /dev/sdX with UUID=XXXXXXXXXX in fstab and grub's menu.lst | 07:54 |
| cmvo | BenC: Thanks, I'll take a closer look at UUIDs. Guess I've been using static /dev for too long :-) Sorry for bothering you. | 07:57 |
| BenC | cmvo: No problem | 07:58 |
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| zul_ | hey | 09:43 |
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