=== gasbag [n=gasbag@68-189-241-88.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.19-6.8 uploaded - Ok, this is a good bear. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu-kernel ["Ex-Chat"] === gasbag [n=gasbag@68-189-241-88.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:29] BenC: Argh. "Ok, this is a good bear"? Die. :) [04:19] hehe [04:35] infinity: I have a new lrm with nvidia 9629 upgrade too [04:35] that will make so many users happy === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 2.6.19-6.9 uploaded - This is a bad bear. Use it, but there are still a few missing modules. [05:38] infinity: lrm and linux-meta coming when I wake up in the morning === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:33] BenC: You upgrading fglrx too? === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@d154-20-238-192.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:27] is there a list of modules that are not in -6 somewhere i can look at? i know nvidia was missing at one point === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-353f94e603f1c2cc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:53] i am having problems upgrading from a 2.4 kernel to 2.6.18 kernel. Any help ? [12:54] the kernel panics saying it cannot mount the root filesystem === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:54] neither 2.4 or 2.6.18 is, has been or will ever be supported in Ubuntu. [12:55] why ? [12:55] so does that mean i cannot download and built my own kernel with version 2.6.18 ? [12:55] 2.4? Why should it be? 2.6.18? We're skipping that; edgy was 2.6.17; feisty will be 2.6.20 [12:55] you can, but I would recommend against it. Why do you want to do so? [12:56] Mithrandir: i wanted to learn building it [12:56] Mithrandir: thanks for the info [12:56] you might want to read the URLs referenced in the topic here. [01:04] 2.6.19 i thought [01:04] atleast that is what it is now [01:06] yes 2.6.19 is in beta i guess [01:06] rc5 iirc [01:07] i guess 2.6.12 and later has some issues with loading modules parallely [01:07] gnomefreak: sorry i did not get it [01:08] gnomefreak: I said feisty "will be", not "is". :-) [01:08] cypher1: if i remember correctly 2.6.19 is in the rc5 stage (in general not in ubuntu) [01:09] Mithrandir: dont we normally keep the kernel we start with? [01:09] like dapper started with 2.6.15 and ended with it [01:09] breezy - edgy was like that [01:10] gnomefreak: BenC said otherwise, iirc [01:10] gnomefreak: but by that would not the kernel would be little out of date when a release comes out ? [01:11] release == stable not in date or out dated === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:36] BenC: bug #72696 [01:36] hm, malone 72696 [01:36] duh, no ubugtu here, then ;) [01:40] bug 72696 === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@quest.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:35] tepsipakki: ok [02:56] BenC: is it feasible for dapper-updates? [03:05] ah, saw your comment === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:08] hey [03:10] hey zul [03:10] hey BenC how is it going? [03:10] not too bad [04:04] good === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:42] argh. out of captain crunch. [04:43] heh [04:44] what in the hells is captain crunch? my only reference is cryptonomicon [04:44] and i've never seen it [04:44] dude. [04:44] its a cereal [04:44] best. cereal. ever. [04:44] fruit loops are better though === kylem plans a trip to .nl with a suitcase full of captain crunch. [04:45] heh. do it! [04:45] thom: it enabled blueboxing, which is why it's famous. At least why it's famous in geek circles. [04:46] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cap'n_Crunch [04:49] kylem: is it still captain crunch in quebec? [04:49] no clue. [04:49] i buy groceries in ontario. [04:49] ah [04:49] since i'm usually in ontario anyway, the loblows on rideau is so darn convenient on the way home... [04:50] yeah it was for me when i was working in queubec [04:55] kylem: You don't get to visit .nl until you've been to Cambridge [04:56] hehe. [05:00] mBdale's european debauchery tour! [05:03] heh. === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:35] BenC: do we want to get the mactel patches into feisty? [05:35] yeah, I'm working on them [05:36] ok [05:36] :) === dade1 [n=dade@host22-147.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:04] later...got another doctor appointment to go to === Lure [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === trappist [i=trappist@linuxkungfu.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:34] is edgy's kernel supposed to be preemptible? I ask because it doesn't seem to be. mouse and everything get very laggy under heavy i/o load, e.g. when installing packages [06:46] trappist: it is [06:47] dade`: I see CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set, but CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY and CONFIG_PREEMPT_BLK are y. mind if I ask what those mean, and how they differ from CONFIG_PREEMPT? === dade` [n=dade@nectarine/admin/dade] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:13] ok now I get it - we preempt the big kernel lock (CONFIG_PREEMPT_BKL) and we say CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y but there's no /proc/sys/kernel/voluntary_preemption, *and* CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set. so (please correct me if I'm wrong) only the big kernel lock is preemptible. === cmvo [n=cmvo@unaffiliated/cmvo] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:33] trappist: correct [07:33] BenC: why do we not just say CONFIG_PREEMPT=y [07:35] becomes preempt isn't optimal for a kernel that is supposed to run everywhere [07:36] s/becomes/because/ [07:36] I assume having separate desktop/server kernels has been brought up and shot down === sioux [n=sioux@adsl-ull-94-220.42-151.net24.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:38] trappist: I guess you haven't noticed that we have a separate server and desktop kernel already :) [07:39] even on strictly desktop, preempt has some areas where it caused enough of a problem for enough people that the benfits were outweighed [07:44] BenC: Hi! I know this is devel only, but it there a way to set the sequence drivers are loaded during boot? [07:48] cmvo: can you describe your scenario? [07:48] I'm actually working on something along those lines, I'd be interested in your use case [07:50] BenC: I've got a system with a ICH6 with 4 SATA HDs connected to it and also a promise SX-2 [07:51] cmvo: So you're concern is just sdX device ordering? [07:51] to which a 5th HD is connected temporarily for backups. [07:51] cmvo: you're problem can be solved in other ways, mainly by using UUID instead of the device name, for partitions === bernard_ [i=cats@dsl-202-72-159-76.wa.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:53] With no HD connected to the SX-2 the four HDs are sda-sdd. With a HD connected to the SX-2 this becomes sda and the others are sdc-sdf [07:54] cmvo: Right, you should replace /dev/sdX with UUID=XXXXXXXXXX in fstab and grub's menu.lst [07:57] BenC: Thanks, I'll take a closer look at UUIDs. Guess I've been using static /dev for too long :-) Sorry for bothering you. 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