=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === felipe__ [n=felipe@200.107.54.83] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.221.40] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:50] ogra: ping === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.49.221.40] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.173.109] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia_ is now known as Burgundavia === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #edubuntu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@c-67-175-74-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === jono [n=jono@88-107-4-166.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:29] anyone know how I can get my edgy clients to give a verbose boot up ? [11:29] I already removed "splash" and "quiet" from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default [11:29] I need this, as all of my thin clients have stopped booting today [11:30] I see them transfer a kernel [11:30] then the screen flashes, and they stop booting [11:30] that should have done it [11:31] (removing splash and quiet) [11:32] hmm [11:32] all I get is a black screen === Yagisan decides to try blowing away the chroot and trying again === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === zch [n=manuel@85-124-232-137.work.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #edubuntu [11:56] hi === Yagisan_ [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu [11:57] can I install student-control-panel 0.4.4 on dapper? === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:02] Hi all long time no see === Yagisan_ waves to cbx33 [12:06] hey Yagisan_ [12:06] howz it goin old buddy [12:06] cbx33, good & bad [12:07] cbx33, last semesters uni was 1 credit, 1 pass (C++ O_o), and 1 fail (just short of the marks needed for a pass) [12:07] oh damn [12:08] very hot hrere at the moment, bushfires a galore === juliux_ [n=juliux@195.227.105.180] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] cbx33: ping === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu [12:33] pong pong [12:33] highvoltage: [12:34] :) [12:34] cbx33: have you ever had a problem with usplash where you just got a blank screen on bootup? [12:34] once [12:34] i now have black and white on amd 64 [12:34] can you remember what you did to fix it? [12:34] odd - xchat crashed [12:34] i don't think I did [12:34] I think I reinstalled [12:35] as it was a testing box [12:35] any bugs on LP about it? [12:35] cbx33: and should the resolution be 640x480, or 640x400, there seems to be conflicting suggestions on this. [12:35] cbx33: yes, but not with answers :/ === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu [12:36] highvoltage: again I have had the same issues [12:36] I think it's 640x400 [12:36] the only time I had a problem was when creating my own usplash images [12:36] yes, I'm creating my own one here. [12:37] ahh [12:37] I never got it to work myself [12:37] I sent it to ogra [12:37] ask Dennis [12:40] ah === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ is now known as juliux === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [02:22] hi [02:22] is it possiple to control with s-c-p NX-Sessions [02:23] It guess it shouldn't be to hard [02:27] If I understand it right, a LTSP-Client connect trough SSH -X and starts the X-Server [02:30] I tried to connect with the NX-Client and execute "/etc/X11/Xsession", but the NX-Client user do not show up in s-c-p === juliux is now known as juliux_ === juliux_ is now known as juliux === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #edubuntu === paolob-parroquia [n=paolob-p@pri-214-b7.codetel.net.do] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] guys, I couldn't solve the problem of how to modify all the students' menu with one operation. In dapper I used "sudo smeg --root", how do I do in edgy? thank you! === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #edubuntu ["trombone"] [03:10] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372861 is about asking for the possibility to modify globally menus in alacarte. Anyone could ask alacarte's developpers to implement it? [03:10] in edubuntu is vital to have to possibility to modify all the menus in a snapshot === blueonyx [n=blueonyx@p54BA5A14.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:26] hi [03:27] i am back again with a isa network card problem : ( [03:31] the thin client detects the isa card right but it seems not to load the needed module, because ipconfig finds no device [03:35] why does it behave this way? === willvdl [n=Will@196.207.32.253] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:59] Howdy [04:00] hi [04:01] Hello blueonyx [04:06] does somebody know if it is possible to have more then one pxe images in /var/lib/tftpboot and you can choose the image at the client? [04:06] i want to use the edubuntu ltps server also for installations via pxe [04:07] yes [04:07] you can [04:07] i think [04:07] and how? [04:07] you set a filename option in the dhcp server === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [04:48] Morning all === willvdl [n=Will@196.207.32.253] has joined #edubuntu [05:00] hi sbalneav [05:00] Hello juliux === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@c-67-175-74-85.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu [05:17] urk. see you all at the meeting [05:18] seeya there will === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@p54AEEB46.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [06:13] hi [06:15] Hello stgraber === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.173.109] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu [07:05] meeting today i see === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === juliux_ is now known as juliux === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === mario_ [n=mario@83-131-78-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === mario_ is now known as pygi [07:21] Any up to date meeting agenda is available somewhere ? === amachu [n=amachu@125.22.64.114] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [n=richard@hotel.uni.lodz.pl] has joined #edubuntu [07:41] cbx33: ping === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu [07:55] pygi, pong [08:14] edubuntugirl: tell ogra I'm very sorry for what I'm about to do ... [08:14] Righto, pygi! [08:29] I made edubuntugirl crash :/ [08:29] edubuntugirl, config reply.whenaddressedby.chars [08:29] <-- edubuntugirl has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) [08:30] Seveas: joy, now she forgot what I said :-/ [08:35] pygi: you gonna stay around? [08:38] LaserJock: what do you mean? [08:38] for the meeting? [08:38] when is the meeting? [08:39] 20 minutes [08:39] probably will, but I won't be of use for anything [08:40] LaserJock: is there anything you need me for? [08:40] is there anybody to give an Edubuntu Handbook status report [08:40] Me, I suppose :) [08:40] oh, ok, I can do that one final time [08:40] and sbalneav can do =) [08:41] pygi: so are you leaving Ubuntu for a time? [08:41] LaserJock: nah, just ignore me please [08:41] well, I don't want to ignore [08:41] :-) [08:41] I do, so let's just forget it ^_^ [08:41] ok, you're call [08:42] thanks ^_^ [08:42] :)* [08:42] hehe === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:50] pygi: why are you leaving ubuntu? [08:51] lucasvo: he didn't say he was [08:51] oh, ok === surge [n=highvolt@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [08:51] hmm, I wonder where oliver is === surge is now known as highvolage [08:51] On a train to Poland :) === highvolage is now known as highvoltage [08:52] ogra and RichEd won't be here today for the meeting [08:52] so he won't make it? === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ [08:52] Nope [08:52] oh bummer [08:52] as sbalneav said, both of them are travelling to Poland [08:52] highvoltage: Don't kickban me!!! === sbalneav cowers in fear [08:52] sbalneav: now why would I do that? === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [08:52] oic :) === LaserJock sticks his tongue out at highvoltage [08:52] Because I'm a bad, bad mans :) === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@83.152.177.185] has joined #edubuntu [08:53] heh [08:53] so where's riched and ogra? [08:53] highvoltage: train to poland [08:53] ah traveling. === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === Ricky28269 [i=Ricky282@cpe-076-182-004-199.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:31] how do i get ndiswrapper onto edubuntu? it wasn't there so i downloaded the tarball from another computer and copied it over via flash drive, but now the make command isn't found. i'm pretty new to linux - how do i get the make command? [09:33] Ricky28269: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper [09:46] well... i've followed the instructions as best i can, and it says to "sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils_*.deb" in the directory, but there are no .deb files in the directory and dpkg tells me the same [09:46] even in the debian subfolder, no .deb files... [09:46] Ricky28269: you need to download them [09:47] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-c49fa124c9a644ddc4d126256060b93888fe0be3 [09:47] i downloaded the two packages, unzipped them, and that's the folder i'm referring to [09:47] is there something not listed, or did i miss something? [09:48] agh. [09:48] i see it now, sorry. [09:49] under the Download header, i clicked "list of files" and it gave me a list of files (surprise!) but i didn't see any download links, i looked further down the page and i guess i ended up downloading a source package (again) [09:56] ok so more problems, and this time i really don't know what i'm doing, i'm just following the commands at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993 - the "iwconfig wlan0" returns "wlan0 No such device". what is wrong and how do i fix it? every command up til that one worked fine. [09:56] Ricky28269: you need the 4th step, not the 5th one [09:56] i already did that one === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [09:57] it returned "Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper" [09:57] should i restart or something? [09:58] if you do 4, you don't need to do 5 [09:58] now follow 8 [09:59] how do i configure it with a static IP instead? I don't want DHCP [09:59] that happens after [09:59] ok so i run dhcpclient wlan0, and then what? [10:00] no, that does dhcp [10:00] oh. dhcpclient: command not found [10:00] have you setup ndiswrapper? [10:00] yes [10:00] then edit /etc/interfaces [10:01] i don't see /etc/interfaces [10:01] /etc/network/interfaces [10:01] ya, that [10:02] hmm [10:02] hmm. ok so i have it open. can you tell me the steps to perform, or point me towards a help file? [10:03] you can have a look at : man interfaces [10:03] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html [10:06] what does the "lo" mean in "auto lo [interface] " ? [10:06] that is loopback [10:06] you need wlan0 [10:08] or ath0 ? [10:08] ok so from looking at the man pages, i need to add "iface wlan0 inet static" "address 192.168.1.35" "netmask 255.255.255.0" - where is the name server entry? [10:08] if atheros, of course [10:09] /etc/resolv.conf [10:09] it's in /etc/resolv.conf [10:09] also how would i specify the access point and WEP key? (yes i know about WPA :)) [10:09] there is a syntax for the in interfaces (not for WPA but for WEP) [10:10] wireless-essid XXXXXXXXXXX [10:10] wireless-key XXXXXXXX [10:11] I'm not sure of the format for the key, if it doesn't work, try to add s: before it === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #edubuntu [10:12] ok. and i need a reboot or i can just run a command? cause i know how linux hardly ever needs reboots :) [10:12] no need to reboot [10:12] /etc/init.d/networking restart should reload all the interfaces [10:12] you can also : ifdown interface && ifup interface [10:13] and how can i see the status of my connections? [10:14] ifconfig [10:14] and iwconfig for wireless specific stuff [10:14] arg. there is an eth1 but no wlan0 in iwconfig, and eth1 is showing wireless stuff [10:15] so, it's eth1 [10:15] well that's weird :) [10:15] gotta change the conf file again. [10:15] nope :) [10:15] it's not weird? [10:15] some drivers use athX, some other ethX, some wifiX and some wlanX :) [10:16] but, you can assign the name you want in /etc/iftab [10:16] yikes. now the network interface restart says permission denied........ oh. sudo. [10:17] lol i guess i just automatically sudo'd the last time i restarted network interfaces [10:18] ESSID still says off/any, before and after adding s: to it [10:18] weird [10:19] try : [10:19] iwconfig eth1 essid "your essid" [10:19] iwconfig eth1 enc s:yourkey [10:20] the first one just returned a new line, i guess no errors, the second one said Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : SET failed [10:21] try with : iwconfig eth1 key s:yourkey [10:21] same error [10:21] and same without s: for both commands [10:22] is there any error message at the bottom of : dmesg ? [10:22] SET failed on device eth1 ; Unknown error 524 [10:23] anything else related to wireless above ? [10:23] nope [10:24] just "Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A)", (next line) "SET failed on device eth1 ; Unknown error 524." [10:24] so it appears that something is going wrong with ndiswrapper and the WEP ... [10:24] if you do : iwlist eth1 scanning [10:24] do you see your network ? [10:25] eth1 No scan results [10:25] and there are 5 or 6 networks around here... 2 of them inside this house [10:25] ok, so let just try a stupid thing : ifconfig eth1 up [10:25] and then : iwlist eth1 scanning again [10:26] same, No scan results [10:26] i will be right back === Ricky28269 is now known as Ricky28269|BRB [10:26] are you sure you loaded you driver correctly ? === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-32-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #edubuntu ["No] === pygi [n=mario@83-131-78-187.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #edubuntu ["Liburnia] === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away [10:45] Headin' home for the day. [10:45] See you all tomorrow. === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:50] good night everyone, see you tomorrow === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [10:57] hi cbx33 [10:57] hey ajmitch [10:58] what can I do for you [10:58] just saying hello === Ricky28269|BRB is now known as Ricky28269 [10:59] stgraber: sorry it took forever, "can you help with cooking real quick" turned into "cut the ends off of 2 bowls of green beans" :) [10:59] heh howz it going [10:59] heheh [10:59] so... it is the correct driver, and i loaded it with the procedure on that site [10:59] i'm assuming it's loaded correctly then, if ndiswrapper is doing its job [11:00] well it appears stgraber left... :( === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has left #edubuntu [] === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu