[03:50] <Burgundavia> ogra: ping
[11:29] <Yagisan> anyone know how I can get my edgy clients to give a verbose boot up ?
[11:29] <Yagisan> I already removed "splash" and "quiet" from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default
[11:29] <Yagisan> I need this, as all of my thin clients have stopped booting today
[11:30] <Yagisan> I see them transfer a kernel
[11:30] <Yagisan> then the screen flashes, and they stop booting
[11:30] <Amaranth> that should have done it
[11:31] <Amaranth> (removing splash and quiet)
[11:32] <Yagisan> hmm
[11:32] <Yagisan> all I get is a black screen
[11:56] <zch> hi
[11:57] <zch> can I install student-control-panel 0.4.4 on dapper?
[12:02] <cbx33> Hi all long time no see
[12:06] <cbx33> hey Yagisan_ 
[12:06] <cbx33> howz it goin old buddy
[12:06] <Yagisan_> cbx33, good & bad
[12:07] <Yagisan_> cbx33, last semesters uni was 1 credit, 1 pass (C++ O_o), and 1 fail (just short of the marks needed for a pass)
[12:07] <cbx33> oh damn
[12:08] <Yagisan_> very hot hrere at the moment, bushfires a galore
[12:31] <highvoltage> cbx33: ping
[12:33] <cbx33> pong pong
[12:33] <cbx33> highvoltage: 
[12:34] <highvoltage> :)
[12:34] <highvoltage> cbx33: have you ever had a problem with usplash where you just got a blank screen on bootup?
[12:34] <cbx33> once
[12:34] <cbx33> i now have black and white on amd 64
[12:34] <highvoltage> can you remember what you did to fix it?
[12:34] <Yagisan> odd - xchat crashed
[12:34] <cbx33> i don't think I did
[12:34] <cbx33> I think I reinstalled
[12:35] <cbx33> as it was a testing box
[12:35] <cbx33> any bugs on LP about it?
[12:35] <highvoltage> cbx33: and should the resolution be 640x480, or 640x400, there seems to be conflicting suggestions on this.
[12:35] <highvoltage> cbx33: yes, but not with answers :/
[12:36] <cbx33> highvoltage: again I have had the same issues
[12:36] <cbx33> I think it's 640x400
[12:36] <cbx33> the only time I had a problem was when creating my own usplash images
[12:36] <highvoltage> yes, I'm creating my own one here.
[12:37] <cbx33> ahh
[12:37] <cbx33> I never got it to work myself
[12:37] <cbx33> I sent it to ogra
[12:37] <cbx33> ask Dennis
[12:40] <highvoltage> ah
[02:22] <zch> hi
[02:22] <zch> is it possiple to control with s-c-p NX-Sessions
[02:23] <zch> It guess it shouldn't be to hard
[02:27] <zch> If I understand it right,  a LTSP-Client connect trough SSH -X and starts the X-Server
[02:30] <zch> I tried to connect with the NX-Client and execute "/etc/X11/Xsession", but the NX-Client user do not show up in s-c-p
[03:01] <paolob-parroquia> guys, I couldn't solve the problem of how to modify all the students' menu with one operation. In dapper I used "sudo smeg --root", how do I do in edgy? thank you!
[03:10] <paolob-parroquia> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372861 is about asking for the possibility to modify globally menus in alacarte. Anyone could ask alacarte's developpers to implement it?
[03:10] <paolob-parroquia> in edubuntu is vital to have to possibility to modify all the menus in a snapshot
[03:26] <blueonyx> hi
[03:27] <blueonyx> i am back again with a isa network card problem : (
[03:31] <blueonyx> the thin client detects the isa card right but it seems not to load the needed module, because ipconfig finds no device
[03:35] <blueonyx> why does it behave this way?
[03:59] <bddebian> Howdy
[04:00] <blueonyx> hi
[04:01] <bddebian> Hello blueonyx
[04:06] <juliux> does somebody know if it is possible to have more then one pxe images in /var/lib/tftpboot and you can choose the image at the client?
[04:06] <juliux> i want to use the edubuntu ltps server also for installations via pxe
[04:07] <cbx33> yes
[04:07] <cbx33> you can
[04:07] <cbx33> i think
[04:07] <juliux> and how?
[04:07] <cbx33> you set a filename option in the dhcp server
[04:48] <sbalneav> Morning all
[05:00] <juliux> hi sbalneav 
[05:00] <sbalneav> Hello juliux
[05:17] <willvdl> urk. see you all at the meeting
[05:18] <highvoltage> seeya there will
[06:13] <stgraber> hi
[06:15] <sbalneav> Hello stgraber
[07:05] <nixternal> meeting today i see
[07:21] <stgraber> Any up to date meeting agenda is available somewhere ?
[07:41] <pygi> cbx33: ping
[07:55] <cbx33> pygi, pong
[08:14] <pygi> edubuntugirl: tell ogra I'm very sorry for what I'm about to do ...
[08:14] <edubuntugirl> Righto, pygi!
[08:29] <Seveas> I made edubuntugirl crash :/
 edubuntugirl, config reply.whenaddressedby.chars
[08:29] <Seveas> <-- edubuntugirl has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[08:30] <pygi> Seveas: joy, now she forgot what I said :-/
[08:35] <LaserJock> pygi: you gonna stay around?
[08:38] <pygi> LaserJock: what do you mean?
[08:38] <LaserJock> for the meeting?
[08:38] <pygi> when is the meeting? 
[08:39] <sbalneav> 20 minutes
[08:39] <pygi> probably will, but I won't be of use for anything
[08:40] <pygi> LaserJock: is there anything you need me for?
[08:40] <LaserJock> is there anybody to give an Edubuntu Handbook status report
[08:40] <sbalneav> Me, I suppose :)
[08:40] <pygi> oh, ok, I can do that one final time
[08:40] <pygi> and sbalneav can do =)
[08:41] <LaserJock> pygi: so are you leaving Ubuntu for a time?
[08:41] <pygi> LaserJock: nah, just ignore me please
[08:41] <LaserJock> well, I don't want to ignore
[08:41] <LaserJock> :-)
[08:41] <pygi> I do, so let's just forget it ^_^
[08:41] <LaserJock> ok, you're call
[08:42] <pygi> thanks ^_^
[08:42] <pygi> :)*
[08:42] <LaserJock> hehe
[08:50] <lucasvo> pygi: why are you leaving ubuntu?
[08:51] <LaserJock> lucasvo: he didn't say he was
[08:51] <lucasvo> oh, ok
[08:51] <LaserJock> hmm, I wonder where oliver is
[08:51] <sbalneav> On a train to Poland :)
[08:52] <rodarvus> ogra and RichEd won't be here today for the meeting
[08:52] <LaserJock> so he won't make it?
[08:52] <sbalneav> Nope
[08:52] <LaserJock> oh bummer
[08:52] <rodarvus> as sbalneav said, both of them are travelling to Poland
[08:52] <sbalneav> highvoltage: Don't kickban me!!! 
[08:52] <highvoltage> sbalneav: now why would I do that?
[08:52] <highvoltage> oic :)
[08:52] <sbalneav> Because I'm a bad, bad mans :)
[08:53] <highvoltage> heh
[08:53] <highvoltage> so where's riched and ogra?
[08:53] <pygi> highvoltage: train to poland
[08:53] <highvoltage> ah traveling.
[09:31] <Ricky28269> how do i get ndiswrapper onto edubuntu? it wasn't there so i downloaded the tarball from another computer and copied it over via flash drive, but now the make command isn't found. i'm pretty new to linux - how do i get the make command?
[09:33] <Burgwork> Ricky28269: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:46] <Ricky28269> well... i've followed the instructions as best i can, and it says to "sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils_*.deb" in the directory, but there are no .deb files in the directory and dpkg tells me the same
[09:46] <Ricky28269> even in the debian subfolder, no .deb files...
[09:46] <lucasvo> Ricky28269: you need to download them
[09:47] <Ricky28269> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-c49fa124c9a644ddc4d126256060b93888fe0be3
[09:47] <Ricky28269> i downloaded the two packages, unzipped them, and that's the folder i'm referring to
[09:47] <Ricky28269> is there something not listed, or did i miss something?
[09:48] <Ricky28269> agh.
[09:48] <Ricky28269> i see it now, sorry.
[09:49] <Ricky28269> under the Download header, i clicked "list of files" and it gave me a list of files (surprise!) but i didn't see any download links, i looked further down the page and i guess i ended up downloading a source package (again)
[09:56] <Ricky28269> ok so more problems, and this time i really don't know what i'm doing, i'm just following the commands at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51993 - the "iwconfig wlan0" returns "wlan0   No such device". what is wrong and how do i fix it? every command up til that one worked fine.
[09:56] <Burgwork> Ricky28269: you need the 4th step, not the 5th one
[09:56] <Ricky28269> i already did that one
[09:57] <Ricky28269> it returned "Adding "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" to /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper"
[09:57] <Ricky28269> should i restart or something?
[09:58] <Burgwork> if you do 4, you don't need to do 5
[09:58] <Burgwork> now follow 8
[09:59] <Ricky28269> how do i configure it with a static IP instead? I don't want DHCP
[09:59] <Burgwork> that happens after
[09:59] <Ricky28269> ok so i run dhcpclient wlan0, and then what?
[10:00] <Burgwork> no, that does dhcp
[10:00] <Ricky28269> oh. dhcpclient: command not found
[10:00] <Burgwork> have you setup ndiswrapper?
[10:00] <Ricky28269> yes
[10:00] <Burgwork> then edit /etc/interfaces
[10:01] <Ricky28269> i don't see /etc/interfaces
[10:01] <stgraber> /etc/network/interfaces
[10:01] <Burgwork> ya, that
[10:02] <mhz> hmm
[10:02] <Ricky28269> hmm. ok so i have it open. can you tell me the steps to perform, or point me towards a help file?
[10:03] <stgraber> you can have a look at : man interfaces
[10:03] <Burgwork> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html
[10:06] <Ricky28269> what does the "lo" mean in "auto lo [interface] " ?
[10:06] <Burgwork> that is loopback
[10:06] <Burgwork> you need wlan0
[10:08] <mhz> or ath0 ?
[10:08] <Ricky28269> ok so from looking at the man pages, i need to add "iface wlan0 inet static" "address 192.168.1.35" "netmask 255.255.255.0" - where is the name server entry?
[10:08] <mhz> if atheros, of course
[10:09] <Burgwork> /etc/resolv.conf
[10:09] <stgraber> it's in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:09] <Ricky28269> also how would i specify the access point and WEP key? (yes i know about WPA :))
[10:09] <stgraber> there is a syntax for the in interfaces (not for WPA but for WEP)
[10:10] <stgraber> wireless-essid XXXXXXXXXXX
[10:10] <stgraber> wireless-key XXXXXXXX
[10:11] <stgraber> I'm not sure of the format for the key, if it doesn't work, try to add s: before it
[10:12] <Ricky28269> ok. and i need a reboot or i can just run a command? cause i know how linux hardly ever needs reboots :)
[10:12] <Burgwork> no need to reboot
[10:12] <stgraber> /etc/init.d/networking restart should reload all the interfaces
[10:12] <stgraber> you can also : ifdown interface && ifup interface
[10:13] <Ricky28269> and how can i see the status of my connections?
[10:14] <Burgwork> ifconfig
[10:14] <Burgwork> and iwconfig for wireless specific stuff
[10:14] <Ricky28269> arg. there is an eth1 but no wlan0 in iwconfig, and eth1 is showing wireless stuff
[10:15] <stgraber> so, it's eth1
[10:15] <Ricky28269> well that's weird :)
[10:15] <Ricky28269> gotta change the conf file again.
[10:15] <stgraber> nope :)
[10:15] <Ricky28269> it's not weird?
[10:15] <stgraber> some drivers use athX, some other ethX, some wifiX and some wlanX :)
[10:16] <stgraber> but, you can assign the name you want in /etc/iftab
[10:16] <Ricky28269> yikes. now the network interface restart says permission denied........ oh. sudo.
[10:17] <Ricky28269> lol i guess i just automatically sudo'd the last time i restarted network interfaces
[10:18] <Ricky28269> ESSID still says off/any, before and after adding s: to it
[10:18] <stgraber> weird
[10:19] <stgraber> try :
[10:19] <stgraber> iwconfig eth1 essid "your essid"
[10:19] <stgraber> iwconfig eth1 enc s:yourkey
[10:20] <Ricky28269> the first one just returned a new line, i guess no errors, the second one said Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) : SET failed
[10:21] <stgraber> try with : iwconfig eth1 key s:yourkey
[10:21] <Ricky28269> same error
[10:21] <Ricky28269> and same without s: for both commands
[10:22] <stgraber> is there any error message at the bottom of : dmesg ?
[10:22] <Ricky28269> SET failed on device eth1 ; Unknown error 524
[10:23] <stgraber> anything else related to wireless above ?
[10:23] <Ricky28269> nope
[10:24] <Ricky28269> just "Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A)", (next line) "SET failed on device eth1 ; Unknown error 524."
[10:24] <stgraber> so it appears that something is going wrong with ndiswrapper and the WEP ...
[10:24] <stgraber> if you do : iwlist eth1 scanning
[10:24] <stgraber> do you see your network ?
[10:25] <Ricky28269> eth1   No scan results
[10:25] <Ricky28269> and there are 5 or 6 networks around here... 2 of them inside this house
[10:25] <stgraber> ok, so let just try a stupid thing : ifconfig eth1 up
[10:25] <stgraber> and then : iwlist eth1 scanning again
[10:26] <Ricky28269> same, No scan results
[10:26] <Ricky28269> i will be right back
[10:26] <stgraber> are you sure you loaded you driver correctly ?
[10:45] <sbalneav> Headin' home for the day.
[10:45] <sbalneav> See you all tomorrow.
[10:50] <stgraber> good night everyone, see you tomorrow
[10:57] <ajmitch> hi cbx33 
[10:57] <cbx33> hey ajmitch 
[10:58] <cbx33> what can I do for you
[10:58] <ajmitch> just saying hello
[10:59] <Ricky28269> stgraber: sorry it took forever, "can you help with cooking real quick" turned into "cut the ends off of 2 bowls of green beans" :)
[10:59] <cbx33> heh howz it going
[10:59] <cbx33> heheh
[10:59] <Ricky28269> so... it is the correct driver, and i loaded it with the procedure on that site
[10:59] <Ricky28269> i'm assuming it's loaded correctly then, if ndiswrapper is doing its job
[11:00] <Ricky28269> well it appears stgraber left... :(