| jeroenvrp | well after the elections here I will try to contact them | 12:16 |
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| jeroenvrp | anyhow thanks | 12:17 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: oh, I mind, it was pqxx | 12:21 |
| Riddell | for kexi | 12:21 |
| imbrandon | ahh ok so graphicsmagic for kipi-plugins and pqxx for kexi ? | 12:22 |
| Riddell | graphicsmaick for krita and kipi-plugs | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | kk | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | ajmitch: hrm I must not be in the sudoers yet, can you poke sireheart | 12:23 |
| imbrandon | brandon@tiber:~$ sudo su - revu1 revu-key update | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | Password: | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | Sorry, user brandon is not allowed to execute '/bin/su - revu1 revu-key update' as root on tiber.serverpronto.com. | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | brandon@tiber:~$ | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | brandon@tiber:~$ sudo su revu1 - revu-key update | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | Sorry, user brandon is not allowed to execute '/bin/su revu1 - revu-key update' as root on tiber.serverpronto.com. | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | brandon@tiber:~$ | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | ignore the former | 12:24 |
| imbrandon | heh | 12:24 |
| fdoving | gnite. | 12:25 |
| imbrandon | gnight fdoving | 12:25 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: sounds great...keep me updated :-) | 12:37 |
| kwwii | time now for sleep | 12:37 |
| imbrandon | gnight kwwii | 12:37 |
| kwwii | bye | 12:37 |
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| allee | Riddell: does kipi-plugins already work with graphicsmagick? AFAIK kipi rel is planed for christmas too. So good time to bug upstream about graphicsmagic is now | 12:49 |
| Riddell | allee: I asked and they said it should work fine since it only runs the command line apps not use the library | 12:52 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I ran apt-get -f install on my bulid machine and smbfs got installed and smb4k seems to run fine now | 12:52 |
| Riddell | not that I have any windows shares to test it with | 12:52 |
| nixternal | well, my main system is dead right now with sudoers issues | 12:58 |
| Riddell | :( | 01:00 |
| gnomefreak | are we pushing koffice 1.6 in feisty? | 01:01 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: no, I'm waiting for 1.6.1 | 01:03 |
| Riddell | which I'm compiling right now actually | 01:03 |
| Riddell | but it won't be released until saturday, if then | 01:03 |
| nixternal | interesting..it did the same here as well Riddell | 01:03 |
| gnomefreak | ok ill keep the 1.6 repo for now than | 01:04 |
| nixternal | the -f so it grabbed smbfs during install worked out | 01:04 |
| Riddell | nixternal: and it can see smb shares? | 01:04 |
| nixternal | yup | 01:04 |
| Riddell | nixternal: sorted, shall I upload then? | 01:04 |
| nixternal | heh, sure | 01:04 |
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| nixternal | how do you fix a corrupted sudoers file? | 01:05 |
| Riddell | overwrite it with a fixed one | 01:05 |
| nixternal | i will have to do that from a recovery | 01:06 |
| Riddell | visudo is your friend | 01:07 |
| nixternal | i have visudo but never used it | 01:08 |
| nixternal | don't know how to use it | 01:08 |
| ajmitch | how'd you corrupt it? | 01:08 |
| nixternal | i have no clue | 01:08 |
| nixternal | i did a sudo blah and it told me | 01:08 |
| nixternal | sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 0 | 01:08 |
| nixternal | >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 5 <<< | 01:09 |
| nixternal | and bunch of those 9-9 actually | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | fun | 01:09 |
| ajmitch | really broken then | 01:09 |
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| nixternal | smb4k hosed my sudoers file | 01:14 |
| nixternal | i hate that program ;) | 01:14 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 01:15 |
| Riddell | err, erk | 01:15 |
| Riddell | did it edit it or you? | 01:15 |
| nixternal | somehow when i ran smb4k from the command line, and it did smb4k_cat, it took everything from the command line and put it in sudoers | 01:15 |
| nixternal | im guessing smb4k did it | 01:15 |
| nixternal | i didn't do it | 01:15 |
| nixternal | that i can guarantee | 01:15 |
| Riddell | warg | 01:16 |
| Riddell | I think I might not upload it | 01:16 |
| nixternal | let me fix my sudoers file, and i will try to break it again | 01:16 |
| nixternal | mind you, this was done on an edgy box | 01:16 |
| nixternal | with the one that is currently in our repos | 01:16 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 01:17 |
| Riddell | double warg | 01:18 |
| nixternal | heh | 01:18 |
| nixternal | let me run it from the command line again, and try and figure out which part of the app calls the smb4k_cat | 01:18 |
| nixternal | actually, let me grep history | 01:19 |
| Riddell | keep a root shell around just incase | 01:19 |
| nixternal | im not worried ;) | 01:19 |
| nixternal | lol | 01:19 |
| nixternal | i can still use the computer, just couldn't sudo | 01:20 |
| nixternal | should be fixed now | 01:20 |
| nixternal | sudo works again!!! | 01:20 |
| nixternal | first time i used visudo that i can think of | 01:21 |
| Riddell | it just runs an editor then a syntax checker on the edited file | 01:21 |
| nixternal | is there a kdesu history at all? | 01:24 |
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| Riddell | no, although sudo keeps a log | 01:27 |
| nixternal | i can't get it to happen again Riddell | 01:27 |
| nixternal | i must have botched up/fat fingered a command im guessing | 01:28 |
| Riddell | worst sort of bug! | 01:28 |
| nixternal | hehe | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | yay, heisenburg bugs! | 01:30 |
| nixternal | ya, starting smb4k with smbfs and kdesu working is a good thing ;) | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | hrm Riddell what would be the best way for k-d-s to rm the .hidden in / ( tonio did an update at UDS to not have it installed anymore , but upgrades its still there ) | 01:30 |
| imbrandon | just have it rm the link in postinst ? | 01:31 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: it'll get removed in upgrades unless it's been modified by hand | 01:33 |
| nixternal | ok, im ready for more work people! | 01:33 |
| imbrandon | hrm , it dident here, but i might have modified it | 01:33 |
| nixternal | i have a MOTU goal to reach by April | 01:34 |
| Riddell | nixternal: see merges link above :) | 01:38 |
| === nixternal sees merges link above | ||
| === nixternal smells food as well | ||
| nixternal | main or universe? | 01:39 |
| Riddell | universe mostly easier | 01:42 |
| nixternal | roger dodger! | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | python-qt4 = broken package is this known or is this me | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | its rendering kubuntu-desktop from being installed | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | stopping even :( | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | it looks like python-qt4 depends on python-sip4 (< 4.5) but 4.5-0ubuntu1 wants to be installed | 01:46 |
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| Riddell | gnomefreak: it's known, I'll fix it tomorrow | 01:53 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 01:53 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: taking a look now, i have to download the thing | 02:11 |
| robotgeek | Riddell: video looks cool, i wonder why he did not just use ubuntu video | 02:17 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: qt-3.3.7 can not use xim too | 05:13 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: ping | 07:36 |
| nixternal | wasabi bum | 07:44 |
| nixternal | http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/shirt2.png | 07:44 |
| nixternal | come on brandon with your 1337 photoshop skillz..hack us a t-shirt ;) | 07:45 |
| crimsun | Yeah, one-third of the MOTU trinity should be able to hack up a tee in no time. | 07:45 |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:45 |
| imbrandon | lol | 07:47 |
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| nixternal | i would buy one if someone would sell one | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: you really want an image for a shirt? what demensions etc ? | 07:49 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: Riddell has a few for sale , i bought one ( well i still owe him $15 for it ) at USD , he sells them for 30 or 35 iirc | 07:50 |
| nixternal | 30 or 35 | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | ( basicly just the cost of printing ) | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | i dont rember , i think 35 but it might be 30 LOL | 07:50 |
| nixternal | is it just a plain kubuntu t-shirt? | 07:50 |
| imbrandon | err , maybe 25 | 07:51 |
| nixternal | that sounds very high | 07:51 |
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| imbrandon | yea 25, because i gave him 10 at UDS and i still owe him 15 | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | LOL | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | anyhow, what ever they are, Riddell has them | 07:51 |
| imbrandon | they are like the one Riddell is wearing in the group kubuntu photo | 07:52 |
| imbrandon | nixternal: http://www.imbrandon.com/misc/uds_mtv/kubuntu_uds_mtv.jpg | 07:52 |
| nixternal | i like when my bank deposits free money into my account | 07:55 |
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| Riddell | imbrandon: pong | 08:07 |
| imbrandon | anything special you want added to UWN ? | 08:08 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: a call to help with merges I guess | 08:09 |
| Riddell | otherwise not really | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | kk | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | is that kubuntu specific/ | 08:09 |
| Riddell | no, it's not | 08:09 |
| Hobbsee | seems there arent that many | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | yea we have the merge thing in there and a blirb about the few kde uploads | 08:09 |
| imbrandon | that will be good for this week i guess :) | 08:09 |
| === Hobbsee can actually do that now | ||
| Hobbsee | but today's been a bit weird | 08:10 |
| Riddell | imbrandon: why UWN today? it's not the weekend yet | 08:12 |
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| imbrandon | Riddell: because he was late with the last one, so trying to cram one in before sunday | 08:12 |
| imbrandon | he == burgurvania | 08:13 |
| imbrandon | but it will be back on its normal sunday schedule after this | 08:13 |
| Riddell | right, cool | 08:14 |
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| Riddell | Lure: kdebase ubuntu3.1 is in proposed, can you confirm it fixes the problem? | 09:55 |
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| Lure | Riddell: I am running since this morning with no side effects and it fixes the crash on logout dialog (with "shutdown options" set to off) | 10:28 |
| Lure | will update LP when available | 10:29 |
| Riddell | thanks | 10:29 |
| Lure | Riddell: hope that some of the reporters will test it too before release to -updates | 10:30 |
| Riddell | Lure: yes, please request this on the bug once lauchpad is back up | 10:31 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: what happened to smb4k on revu? | 11:58 |
| Riddell | nixternal: found it, uploaded | 12:05 |
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| seaLne | Riddell: i can now login graphically to feisty | 12:21 |
| Hobbsee | seaLne: yay :) you couldnt? | 12:22 |
| seaLne | not sure what the problem was as i still couldn't after you added that file | 12:22 |
| seaLne | Hobbsee: err nope i broke my machine on friday | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | oh, yeah, that was you, right | 12:22 |
| seaLne | it took my colleagues till yesterday to notice i wasn't using my desktop :) | 12:22 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 12:23 |
| seaLne | it was quite annoying tho | 12:23 |
| Riddell | seaLne: what changed? | 12:23 |
| Jucato | when upgrading from Edgy to Feisty (fresh install), kubuntu-desktop, hwdb, and python-qt4 get removed? and I can't reinstall python-qt4 because of python-sip. is this normal? | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yes | 12:24 |
| Jucato | ah | 12:24 |
| === Jucato is annoyed that tty doesn't work on his Edgy on VMWare... | ||
| Hobbsee | Jucato: we decided that we should be innovative, and not let kubuntu-desktop be installable at any time during feisty. | 12:24 |
| Jucato | so that means no more kubuntu-desktop? | 12:24 |
| Hobbsee | correct | 12:24 |
| Jucato | ooh... there will also be less problems when you try to remove something that was installed by default, right? | 12:25 |
| Riddell | Jucato: yes, it's known, I'm working on qt4 now | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | yay :) | 12:25 |
| Jucato | Riddell: ah ok. I thought I did something wrong. thanks! :) | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: of course. :P | 12:26 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: me likey! :) | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 12:26 |
| === Hobbsee notes that she shouldnt tease people | ||
| Jucato | but kubuntu-desktop will still be available, right? so that Ubuntu users could easily convert to our side? :P | 12:26 |
| Hobbsee | of course. | 12:26 |
| Jucato | yay! me extremely likey! | 12:27 |
| seaLne | Riddell: i'm not sure what could have changed that fixed it as i couldn't login via gdm either or to gnome, nothing overnight that i can see could have effected that | 12:28 |
| Riddell | seaLne: crazy | 12:29 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: the python depends issue is being fixed today. i asked about it lastnight | 12:30 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: ah ok. I think I wasn't around (or wasn't listening) | 12:30 |
| gnomefreak | you werent around ;) | 12:31 |
| Jucato | ah :) | 12:31 |
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| maysun | how is ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu organised? does the core development happen within "ubuntu", and sub projects like "kubuntu" and "xubuntu" base their work on that? or are all 3 independent projects? | 01:11 |
| Hobbsee | maysun: they all use the same repositories, and share the same work. | 01:13 |
| maysun | so if somebody is interested in ubuntu development in general, he better starts exploring the ubuntu project? | 01:15 |
| Hobbsee | you can explore any part of it you like. i'd try joining #ubuntu-motu and having a look at the links in the topic | 01:16 |
| Riddell | maysun: yes | 01:16 |
| Riddell | maysun: but if you like KDE stuff, hang around here | 01:16 |
| maysun | yes, KDE is my prefered desktop environment | 01:16 |
| gnomefreak | anyone have tonios repo on hand? | 01:16 |
| === Riddell hugs maysun | ||
| === maysun smiles | ||
| maysun | Riddell, i hope you dont mind that you hugged a male dude :-) | 01:17 |
| Hobbsee | maysun: most people in here arent female | 01:18 |
| maysun | yeah, the *-women projects seem small, no matter if debian, ubuntu or other | 01:18 |
| Hobbsee | maysun: i've been harrassed by a moron in the #ubuntu-women channel. i'm not sure that they are more than a predator ground. the irc channel, at least | 01:19 |
| Hobbsee | #debian-women seemed to be better, with more people, when i went there | 01:19 |
| === Hobbsee eventually got the jerk klined. | ||
| maysun | i know thats quite risky to say, and a sensitive topic in general. but the females i met on the internet who deal with "geek stuff" often have a rude and obscure personality | 01:20 |
| === gnomefreak thinks the ubuntu-women project has come a long way in the short time ;) | ||
| Hobbsee | maysun: they can do. they're certainly not "normal" in terms of their interests | 01:21 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: i'm sure it has. | 01:21 |
| Riddell | anyway.. | 01:24 |
| Riddell | maysun: any paticular part of kubuntu you think you'd like to help out on? | 01:24 |
| Riddell | packaging, documentation, bug fixing, testing... | 01:24 |
| maysun | Hobbsee, well. i did not mean anything related to interests. i mean the personality thing | 01:26 |
| Jucato | (all of the above?) | 01:26 |
| maysun | Riddell, so far my interests are a bit of everything | 01:26 |
| maysun | but i am no professional coder | 01:26 |
| Jucato | hehe.. I found someone a bit like me :) | 01:26 |
| maysun | so i am not sure yet where i could become useful | 01:27 |
| maysun | Jucato :-p | 01:27 |
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| Hobbsee | maysun: true. girls have to be more used to copping crap, and just ignoring it. in that sense, you might find them slightly harsh | 01:28 |
| maysun | but generally said, i like the philosophy to improve usability of "linux" so people can benefit from a free operating system, who dont want to study computer science just to do their stuff | 01:28 |
| Riddell | maysun: ok, here's a task, test this koffice archive "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/not-koffice-161/ edgy main" | 01:28 |
| Riddell | same task to everyone else too :) | 01:28 |
| Jucato | speaking of girls... I haven't seen el around lately | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | maysun: it's a known fact - you get me on a few select topics, and i'll blast you. but would a male do any diffferently? | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: hah. not-koffice again | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: elkbuntu? | 01:29 |
| Jucato | Riddell: just install it to test, right? | 01:29 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: nope. el has short hair | 01:29 |
| Riddell | Jucato: yes, and run the apps to see if they work | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | it works fine here. i havent ran into any issues with that repo yet | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: oh | 01:29 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: koffice 1.6.1? | 01:29 |
| Jucato | ok. I'm using KWord a lot lately :) | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | ohno | 01:29 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: you have a feisty repo for it or just use the edgy one for now? | 01:30 |
| maysun | Hobbsee, my main problem is perfectionism of a few people, who turn into haters when others dont follow their perfectionism. and according to my observation, a few females try to be "better than men" in that field. | 01:30 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: just use edgy | 01:30 |
| gnomefreak | ok | 01:30 |
| maysun | but i might be off topic with my babbling. i am sorry :-) | 01:32 |
| Jucato | hm... what is really the "recommended" way of upgrading packages? upgrade or dist-upgrade? Adept uses dist-upgrade, right? | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: on feisty or edgy | 01:33 |
| Jucato | edgy | 01:33 |
| Riddell | I've never seen much point in upgrade | 01:33 |
| gnomefreak | dist-upgrade is fine | 01:33 |
| Jucato | ah | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | maysun: yeah, well. people do that, at times :( | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: its better to use on devel systems i hear (less chance of a screw up) but i still use dist-upgrade | 01:34 |
| mornfall|work | brm | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | hey mornfall|work! | 01:34 |
| mornfall|work | hey hey | 01:34 |
| gnomefreak | kplato is new | 01:41 |
| Jucato | kplato was there before. but now it's being installed by default in dist-upgrade (not in plain upgrade) | 01:41 |
| gnomefreak | oh it was? | 01:41 |
| Jucato | yes | 01:42 |
| Jucato | well... iirc | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | i had koffice 1.6 installed and now with dist-upgrade its installing it makes me think it wasnt there before or it would remove the old one | 01:42 |
| gnomefreak | or just upgrade it | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | it was there before | 01:43 |
| gnomefreak | thats weird | 01:43 |
| Jucato | ah my mistake. kplato is in universe | 01:44 |
| Jucato | < 1.6.1 | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | maybe it wasnt part of the meta package koffice | 01:44 |
| Jucato | or... maybe... hold on.. :) | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | until 1.6.1 | 01:44 |
| Jucato | maybe in the kubuntu.org repos, kplato is part of koffice. but in Edgy, it's in universe by default | 01:44 |
| gnomefreak | 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com feisty/universe Packages | 01:44 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure if kplato is considered stable now, should be | 01:45 |
| gnomefreak | even with the 1.6 repo it wasnt installed with koffice | 01:45 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: maybe in kubuntu.org repos/packages only | 01:45 |
| gnomefreak | eh ill play with it today :) | 01:46 |
| Jucato | I've been playing with KWord the whole week (and pulling my hair out at the same time...) | 01:50 |
| === gnomefreak feels like im forgetting something | ||
| gnomefreak | Riddell: on the python-qt4 install issue cant you just remove python-sip4 (<< 4.5) from depends and rebuild. (asking so i know if thats all) | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: nope | 02:02 |
| Hobbsee | well, you can, but it will ftbfs | 02:02 |
| gnomefreak | there is a python-qt4 depends already there for python-sip4 >=4.4.5 | 02:03 |
| gnomefreak | oh i think i understand. the << is there because things depends on smaller than 4.5 so those depends would need to be changed also | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | effectively | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | and the later versions of python-sip4 dont actually build with python-qt4 | 02:05 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | try it if you like - undefined stuff, fails pretty early during make | 02:05 |
| gnomefreak | i think i ran into that with eclipse where i took the << one out and fixed the one issue but failed on other depends and i gave up cause it was a big damn circle of building | 02:06 |
| Jucato | darn.. didn't document the bump I ran into in upgrading to koffice 1.6.1... | 02:06 |
| gnomefreak | bump? | 02:06 |
| gnomefreak | so far so good here | 02:07 |
| Jucato | I had to "sudo apt-get -f install" to finish the upgrade... | 02:07 |
| Jucato | the dist-upgrade rather | 02:07 |
| gnomefreak | what was wrong with it? | 02:07 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: then you fix the circle first. | 02:07 |
| Jucato | "kpresenter: Depends: kpresenter-data (> 1:1.6.1) but 1:1.6.0-0ubuntu1 is installed" | 02:08 |
| gnomefreak | Jucato: you got that on dist-upgrade? | 02:08 |
| Jucato | yep. I was upgrading through Adept Updater when I just checked and it said that it encountered problems. so I ran "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in Konsole and got that | 02:08 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: there is an failed to overwrite on upgrade to 1.6.1 | 02:08 |
| Jucato | gnomefreak: but -f install fixed it | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt run into that thank god i have one im gonna need to --force-overwrite :) | 02:09 |
| gnomefreak | where do you want 1.6.1 bugs filed? if at all any | 02:10 |
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| Riddell | gnomefreak: bah, what's the details? | 02:11 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: killall katapult && katapult | 02:11 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: I do Alt+Space, Ctrl+C, Configure, OK :) | 02:11 |
| gnomefreak | pkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kpresenter-data_1%3a1.6.1-0ubuntu1~edgy1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/services/ole_powerpoint97_import.desktop', which is also in package koffice-libs | 02:11 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: I've not looked at python-qt4 yet, qt4 itself is still compiling away | 02:11 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: mm, ok, thanks | 02:11 |
| gnomefreak | thats related? | 02:11 |
| gnomefreak | lol i cant play with it | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | why not? | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: i have no menu entries for any kde apps | 02:13 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 02:13 |
| gnomefreak | wait i do after refresh | 02:14 |
| gnomefreak | only a couple amarok and krita | 02:15 |
| Jucato | hm... so what's new in 1.6.1? | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | oops thats my fault i forgot to run dpkg after overwriting the | 02:18 |
| gnomefreak | that* | 02:18 |
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| bddebian | Howdy | 03:58 |
| Jucato | hi bddebian | 03:59 |
| bddebian | Heya Jucato | 03:59 |
| Jucato | Riddell: any particular part/feature of KOffice 1.6.1 you want to be tested? KWord works fine so far. (don't know how to use KPlato, though) | 03:59 |
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| freeflying_ | Jucato: kword can support M$'s doc fine now? | 04:01 |
| Jucato | by support, what do you mean? | 04:02 |
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| gnomefreak | i think he means can you import a .doc and edit and save it fine | 04:02 |
| gnomefreak | work with it :) | 04:02 |
| Riddell | Jucato: no, just sanity testing | 04:02 |
| Jucato | well, Microsoft Word Document is now listed in the save dialog box | 04:03 |
| Jucato | Riddell: so far, everything's ok. no crashes yet. I haven't seen the changes they made, so I'm not sure what the new features are for 1.6.1 | 04:04 |
| haggai | Riddell: hiya. A guy I know in Glasgow is asking about the FOSS scene there. Do you know much about what is happening there? | 04:04 |
| Riddell | haggai: glasgow's scotlug is active and interesting. akademy 2007 is going to rock glasgow. | 04:05 |
| gnomefreak | crap i think i did something bad | 04:12 |
| gnomefreak | :( | 04:12 |
| Jucato | O.o | 04:13 |
| === gnomefreak makes mental not to self ALWAYS make double back ups of imprtant files :( | ||
| gnomefreak | lost my resume :( | 04:18 |
| Jucato | ouch... :( | 04:18 |
| gnomefreak | there is no way to recover things that were deleted from the trash bin right? | 04:20 |
| gnomefreak | *idea* | 04:21 |
| Riddell | haggai: and of course debconf in edinburgh next year too | 04:28 |
| haggai | Riddell: of course :) We started talking about local people because I told him about akademy and debconf next year | 04:28 |
| nixternal | Riddell: bug 72065 | 04:41 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 72065 in smb4k "smb4k screwed the sudoers sudo command no longer available! " [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/72065 | 04:41 |
| nixternal | someone else had that same issue | 04:41 |
| Riddell | nixternal: that's crazy, smb4k shouldn't be reading sudoers never mind writing to it | 04:42 |
| Riddell | nixternal: can you poke upstream and ask what could be happening? | 04:42 |
| nixternal | don't that now | 04:42 |
| nixternal | doing that now rather | 04:43 |
| seele | hum, can anyone answer some GRUB questions for me? | 04:50 |
| seele | after you edit menu.lst, you run grub-install, correct? | 04:50 |
| Jucato | afaik, not anymore | 04:50 |
| seele | what do you do to update grub then? | 04:51 |
| Riddell | seele: don't think so, grub can read the file directly off the disk when it's run | 04:51 |
| Riddell | so no need to update | 04:51 |
| seele | oh, isnt that a bit dangerous in case you have an error? | 04:51 |
| Riddell | what sort of error? | 04:51 |
| seele | well if you have something wrong in your config file | 04:52 |
| seele | at uds, when you were showing me the grub config, you had to run a command | 04:52 |
| Riddell | I guess that's one reason to have a GUI tool to make sure you don't have | 04:52 |
| Riddell | syntax errors | 04:53 |
| seele | i dunno what it did, if it just installed the new options or did a check to make sure ther are no errors | 04:53 |
| seele | hum, ok.. so currently all you have to do is edit menu.lst and reboot? | 04:53 |
| Riddell | yes | 04:54 |
| seele | okie dokie | 04:55 |
| seele | what kind of error do you get if there is a syntax error in menu.lst? | 04:56 |
| seele | (i dont want to try it for myself :P) | 04:56 |
| Riddell | not sure, I've never tried | 04:56 |
| Riddell | but in the worst of cases it'll go "can't find linux" and give you a grub prompt | 04:57 |
| nixternal | Riddell: i reported the bug upstream, hopefully i will hear back | 05:10 |
| Riddell | hope so, that's a nasty beastie | 05:12 |
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| nixternal | i should have looked at the bug report prior to packaging...chalk that one up as yet another lesson | 05:12 |
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| Riddell | _Sime: don't support you'd know why builddir!=source dir doesn't work in pyqt 4.1? | 05:43 |
| ttoine | yep.... has tonio been here today ? | 05:44 |
| Riddell | no | 05:45 |
| ttoine | :( | 05:46 |
| ttoine | ok, thanks, Riddell | 05:46 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: ping? can you do a -final- kopete upload to edgy-proposed, this time it's correct, for sure. http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/edgy-proposed/ - thanks in advance. sorry 'bout the mess with this SRU. | 06:04 |
| Riddell | fdoving: is there anything currently in the queue? | 06:04 |
| fdoving | nope, It's rejected. | 06:05 |
| Riddell | cool | 06:07 |
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| nixternal | Comment: | 06:12 |
| nixternal | Thanks for notifying us. I'm currently working on a fix. | 06:12 |
| nixternal | Riddell: ^^ smb4k | 06:12 |
| Riddell | nixternal: I wonder if that's a security issue that should get a CVE | 06:15 |
| Riddell | fdoving: kopete uploaded | 06:16 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: thanks :) | 06:18 |
| Riddell | thank you | 06:19 |
| Riddell | nixternal: how are you contacting them? | 06:19 |
| nixternal | their buglist | 06:19 |
| Riddell | nixternal: URL? | 06:20 |
| nixternal | http://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?group_id=769 | 06:20 |
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| Riddell | hmm, no security dudes around | 06:28 |
| Roey | #security | 06:34 |
| Riddell | ubuntu security dudes | 06:34 |
| === seaLne cries as his machine dosen't boot anymore | ||
| Riddell | erk | 06:35 |
| DaSkreech | Feisty? | 06:35 |
| seaLne | it looks like mdadm/lvm again | 06:35 |
| seaLne | yeah | 06:35 |
| seaLne | hmm maybe not mdadm | 06:37 |
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| toma | evening | 06:53 |
| DaSkreech | HI | 06:54 |
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| DaSkreech | Is there a way for someone to get all the source code used in Kubunut? | 07:49 |
| DaSkreech | Kubuntu? | 07:49 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: there are source CDs | 07:51 |
| DaSkreech | really never noticed before | 07:52 |
| gnomefreak | Riddell: whats this gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~$ kbuildsycoca running... after any command i run it drops to that and starts erroring | 07:53 |
| gnomefreak | i type sudo apt-get update when update finishes it drops me to prompt than automatticly runs that | 07:53 |
| Riddell | gnomefreak: it's kded running the kde system cache builder when it notices file changing | 07:54 |
| gnomefreak | is there a way to get it to stop or atleast stop erroring that there is no database | 07:55 |
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| DaSkreech | Riddell: I assume you can't shipit source CDs? | 08:01 |
| Riddell | DaSkreech: no, but you can buy them off canonical at cost | 08:02 |
| DaSkreech | OK are they available for download? | 08:02 |
| Riddell | now there you have me | 08:02 |
| Riddell | they were but they seemed to get lost during edgy release and not get published again | 08:03 |
| DaSkreech | Ah who would be the person in charge of the balance of the source? | 08:03 |
| Riddell | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/source/ | 08:03 |
| DaSkreech | Thanks | 08:04 |
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| DaSkreech | They have daily source DVds I see | 08:06 |
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| gnomefreak | killall kded worked ;) | 08:16 |
| gnomefreak | ok all done playing. got hotbabe uploaded :) | 08:17 |
| DaSkreech | Scuse? | 08:19 |
| Riddell | don't ask | 08:19 |
| gnomefreak | wrong channel | 08:19 |
| gnomefreak | its an app | 08:19 |
| DaSkreech | Woah what's FSview? | 08:20 |
| gnomefreak | filesystem veiw? | 08:20 |
| DaSkreech | Was this always installed? | 08:21 |
| gnomefreak | i dont have that package | 08:21 |
| DaSkreech | man one wrong keystroke on katapult | 08:21 |
| DaSkreech | Ok | 08:22 |
| DaSkreech | Wonder how I got it | 08:27 |
| DaSkreech | Ah it's in the debian menu | 08:28 |
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| DaSkreech | Hi mez | 08:42 |
| Mez | hi DaSkreech | 08:42 |
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