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unix_infidelAnyone know of a command to purge /tmp of all files not using an active socket?12:13
unix_infidelOther than reboot :P12:13
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k_oshyou guys great with raid and lvm? first raid, then lvm. correct? can I put /boot on an lvm or does it need to be on its own partition?12:16
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k_oshunix_infidel: find /tmp -atime -something -exec rm [} \;  <- or somethign.12:17
unix_infidelk_osh: that doesnt mean it doesnt have an active socket or isnt being used by some parent PDI12:18
unix_infidelPID*12:18
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k_oshunix_infidel: I'm thinking that if it's not being accessed it's not very active...12:19
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globeI am getting the error "could not start kstartupconfig" from my newly installed kde session, and KDE will not start.  Anybody want to help me get to the bottom of this?12:20
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snowicecan not play flac files with amarok 1.4.412:31
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snowicedoes universe get any security updates at all?12:37
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Raven301I install edgy on my other computer ... did the login name and password ... but when I try to login it says login failed ... is there a way to get the info or setup another name in edgy??12:41
mnoirI doubt that this answer is going to be very satisfying - universe is a sub category in many repositories.  in the security repository there are can be updates marked universe.  I think this means the answer to the question you may have asked is yes - now would you care to form another question.12:41
pi1lcan anybody please tell me, how i can tell system, that system clock must show local, not grinwich time?12:42
mnoir!time12:42
ubotutime: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB12:42
Raven301How can I get my password back on edgy or setup another name and password?12:42
mnoirsorry12:42
mnoir!local time12:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about local time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:42
mnoirthe answer I am looking for is yer hw clock should be in gmt and yer screen should say the local time12:43
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snowiceit's just a bit confusing, in the default sources.list it says that universe does NOT get any updates, but then a bit below, there is a commmented deb line for security updates12:46
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pi1lmnoir, that is, i need to set hw clock to local, as well as screen12:47
mnoirsec12:47
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pi1lwell, i found and applied this command: hwclock --adjust --localtime. seems to do the thing, but still will be waiting to see what happens after reboot12:52
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mnoirI am too - I think there is somewhere in your system that expects the hwclock to be UTC (GMT is not used anymore :) )12:54
mnoiror at least the name is deprecated...12:54
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snowicedoes anyone get amarok to play flac files?12:57
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milaksHow can I plase Icons: Home and Trash visible on Desktop? If I drag icon Home from panel to desktop it is copied (because if I do that again I get warning about replacing) but its not visible.12:58
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milaksAnyone?01:00
Bubba_Gumpmilaks: works for me01:00
BDDFsnowice : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=125222201:00
Bubba_Gumpopen konqueror and click and drag, the home icon, onto your desktop, then, click, link here01:00
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milaksBDDF: Can you please give me the listing (on private because of floog protection) of yours ~/Deskop/Home.desktop?01:01
jamesi have 2 questions about networking : anyone game ?01:02
snowiceBDDF: thanks, but that one is for dapper and libxine 1.1.101:02
BDDFsnowice : edgy?01:03
snowiceBDDF, yes, I'm running edgy01:03
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jamesI have a question about settings on a remote networked printer can anyone help?01:05
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BDDFsnowice : seems there are problems with id3 tag flac files01:06
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BDDFproblem is with xine01:07
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BDDFsnowice: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?01:07
axa-axaCan someone please give me the listing (on private because of floog protection) of his/hers ~/Deskop/Home.desktop?01:07
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snowiceBDDF, no it seems to be unavailable in my repositories01:09
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BDDFsnowice : enable multiverse repositories01:12
BDDFit's in there01:12
snowiceBDDF, ok, I'll try that01:12
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BDDFsome people seem to say it could be a problem with the actual flac files with id3 tags01:12
xabbottHello, was wondering. How to do get alt+f1-12,etc,(terminal) to work in Kubuntu? Whenever I try it I just get the splash screen.01:12
BDDFxine barfs on them ... but files with id3 stripped are no problem01:13
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BDDFxabbot : do you mean ctrl-alt-f1?01:14
xabbottyea01:14
xabbottit takes me out of x01:14
BDDFyou said alt-f101:14
BDDFit is ctrl-alt-f101:14
xabbottbut all i get is that text mode kubuntu splash screen01:14
xabbottNo I meant ctrl-alt (sorry)01:15
xabbottDo I have to uninstall that splash screen?01:15
xabbottI had to do that for one distro I tried. Just wondering if there was another way.01:16
BDDFhow do you start X?01:16
BDDFis it through KDM?01:17
xabbottuh, i boot into it. into kdm.01:17
xabbottyea01:17
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BDDFand from there you get what when ctrl-alt-f201:17
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snowiceBDDF, thanks, flac files play fine now, I also read that it's fixed in cvs01:17
xabbottwell from there, or even after i log into a session01:17
BDDFsnowice: coo01:17
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xabbotti try to ctrl+alt f1/2 and all i get is the text mode splash screen01:18
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BDDFwhat is "text mode splash screen"01:18
BDDFa login prompt?01:18
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xabbottno01:19
xabbottthe screen you see during boot01:20
xabbottusplash or whatever01:20
BDDFwhat version?01:20
BDDFedgy? dapper?01:20
|kkathman|can someone please tell me how to get a previous version of mplayer (specfically the 3.25 version) instead of the current 3.31 ?01:21
xabbottedgy01:22
Bennerhi, i installed kubuntu 6.10 yesturday, after installing the fglrx ati drivers, when it boot, it seem to be in the correct resolution and everything looks fine, i can see my desktop and icons, but all the fonts are REALLY big (a letter is almost the screen) so i can't go anywhere, i rebooted in recovery mode, startx and the fonts are ok and everything runs fine.. but not when it's loaded by grub.. any clues?01:22
lunitik|kkathman|: umm.... mplayer is at version 1.something01:22
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Benneri don't want to start a debate today :) (lunitik will remembre)01:23
LeeJunFanlunitik: it's not even actually at 1, it's pre101:23
|kkathman|sorry the mplayer plug in01:23
BDDFxabbot : what video card?01:23
|kkathman|i.e. mozilla-mplayer01:23
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xabbottati 850xt pro01:24
lunitikBenner: haha.... sorry about that... that was annoying....01:24
ademanwhen i try and run enemy territory it crashes and sends me back to the gdm login screen  (this problem seems to be Desktop Environment agnostic so i figured it was worth asking in here as well)01:24
LeeJunFanBenner: might want to turn off framebuffer01:24
BDDFxabbott : which driver?01:24
LeeJunFan!framebuffer | Benner01:24
ubotuBenner: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer01:24
lunitikBenner: but yeah... I'm not entirely sure what might be wrong with the font thing... have you tried to navigate through KControl though?01:24
BDDFfglrx?01:24
|kkathman|the mplayer plugin 3.31 has some problems with playing several formats, that 3.25 doesnt01:24
xabbottyea, but even when i use the default ati drivers i get the same thing01:25
lunitikLeeJunFan: fglrx kernel module uses a fb ...01:25
LeeJunFanlunitik: you can still turn it off. I don't use it.01:25
LeeJunFanset vga=normal in bootparams01:25
lunitikLeeJunFan: By default it will load the fb module (fbcon)01:25
Bennerframebuffer? hmm doesnt tell me nothing.. i can click on the menu (like start of windows) but i cant see nothing cause it's too big.. i cant even go into konsole ;(01:26
Benner2sec i'm coming back01:26
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lunitikLeeJunFan: For FGLRX?01:26
LeeJunFanyeah01:26
kestas_can somone tell me what to do if my webcam is too dark01:26
kestas_and blue01:26
lunitikLeeJunFan: What gains do you get by turning off the fb?01:26
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LeeJunFanlsmod | grep fb comes up blank here. compiled my own kernel w/o framebuffers, and installed ATI's drivers.01:27
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LeeJunFanlunitik: having a stable system. :p01:27
BDDFxabbott : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=178264401:27
BDDFsome removed usplash from grub01:27
lunitikLeeJunFan: Mine is stable  *shrug*01:27
LeeJunFanlunitik: I've never had anything but headaches from framebuffer.01:27
BDDFbut then no splash at boot, but virtual X works again01:27
BDDF:(01:27
LeeJunFanyeah, the splash uses the frambuffer.01:28
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=== lunitik has fglrx/fbcon/usplash/xorg all working fine
lunitikRadeon Xpress 200G01:29
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LeeJunFanJust one of those things I guess, I don't think I've had a single system that framebuffer hasn't screwed up the ability to switch back and forth between X and virtual cons.01:29
kestas_how do you change driver settings (spca5xx)01:30
jamaurcan anyone help me set up a logitech quickcam?  lsusb gives me "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.", which is good, but camorama tells me there's no camera...01:30
lunitikjamaur: its not necissarily good just because the kernel can see it.....01:30
lunitikjamaur: google 'logitech quickcam linux' see what module you need01:31
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LeeJunFanjamaur: http://www.google.com/search?q=ID+046d%3A08f6+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-801:31
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gtwysoo it seems the default repositories do not hold a lot of good software... does anyone know which respositories i should use to install apps like kismet ?01:32
kestas_does anyone know how to change driver settings?01:32
LeeJunFankestas_: you have to do that with the applicatino that uses it, OR module options.01:32
gtwyi said that wrong, they hold good software, but there is a lot of good software missing01:32
jamaurlunitik: thanks, I'll see if the quickcan express driver does the trick01:33
LeeJunFankestas_: you can get a list of options available for the module by running 'modinfo spca5xx' in konsole.01:33
LeeJunFankestas_: normally if you don't know what you're doing with mod options and how to set them in /etc/modprobe.d files then it should be left up to the application to make the adjustments you need (if at all possible).01:34
kestas_thanx01:34
LeeJunFankestas_: I have the same camera in my sager laptop it works fine w/o changing module settings, what's up with yours?01:34
kestas_LeeJunFan, for some reason most of the webcam preview programs view the webcam in a blue color01:34
LeeJunFankestas_: well, I should say I have A camera that uses the same module.01:35
kestas_LeeJunFan, and it is much too dark01:35
Bennerok sorry i am back... so what's about those framebuffer... i can do anything in the recovery mode and start xwindow by startx.. but if i lood by the default by grub it's load, but not even able to read due to the giant fonts..01:35
kestas_LeeJunFan, i just want to make it brighter becuase with mplayer it looks alright01:35
LeeJunFankestas_: I've noticed that this cam seems to need a lot of light. To be honest I've never used it in windows so I don't know what to compare it to.01:35
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LeeJunFankestas_: yeah, mine looks blue too now that you mention it.01:37
LeeJunFankestas_: It didn't before, but then I have a new "white light" here at my desk that's not a soft white light.01:37
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snowicedoes webcam plugin work in kopete? my preview is all dark01:38
LeeJunFansnowice: with yahoo and msn only.01:38
LeeJunFansnowice: but yes, if your cam is recognized and supported by linux then it should work in kopete.01:39
LeeJunFan!webcam01:39
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:39
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Benneri don't think it's a framebuffer problem because all the desktop is fully nice appeared, but only the fonts in the xwindow are too big, so i can't do nothings. just like i changed a them or something..01:40
snowiceLeeJunFan, my webcam is recognized by kopete, it's just the preview that is all screwed up, which other program can I use to test the webcam?01:40
LeeJunFansnowice: not sure, mplayer or kaffeine? I know VLC supports webcam (v4l - video for linux).01:41
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TheMolesnowice: Try camorama01:42
snowicethanks, I'll give it a try01:44
Aondoi had a hardtime with my web cam, with the kernel in edgy, dont know why, but my solution was to create my own kernel. even tho the webcam has been working without problem on a much older than edgy's incuded one.01:44
Bennerlunitik: are you still there?01:44
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TheMoleAondo: What webcam do you have?01:49
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lunitikBenner: yup... wassup?01:50
AondoTheMole  Logitech, Inc. QuickCam 3000 Pro01:50
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TheMoleAhhh, yeh I've heard of people with problems iwth the pro quickcams01:51
Aondothere is no real problem with the kernel it self i think, since well... it's been working a long time befor edgy hehe01:52
Aondoi'm just glad it's not that hard to self-compile the kernel :)01:52
LeeJunFansometimes patches made to related parts of the kernel by a distributor will uknowing cause problems with another driver in the kernel.01:52
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Aondoyea i guess01:52
LeeJunFanThat's why I compile my own as well, I know if something is broken it's either my fault or time to file a bug for the kernel.01:53
TheMoleI've still not compiled my own kernel and I've been using linux for about six years... I always shy away from it.01:53
ademanhow can i make ALL command line output end up in a file?  I tried     Whatever > SomeFIle.txt   but only certain programs actually send things over to the file...01:54
AondoTheMole  dont :) you can allways fall back to the old-working one, if you do something wrong hehe01:54
LeeJunFanTheMole: a couple years earlier TheMole and you'd have had to compile your own kernel just to burn CD's :)01:54
Bennerlunitik: is my big font problem can be a theme or font settings only because all my desktop is fully appear correclty, i see the taskbar and everything01:54
Bennercan i reset the settings of theme/fonts of the default loading preset01:55
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Aondotrying to fit the kernel as much as possible for your hardware can be quite interesting01:55
TheMoleLeeJunFan: I remember the first distro I used was RedHat 5.1 and X wouldn't work properly with my video card and everywhere I read just said "recompile" and in the end I just bought a new card!01:55
lunitikBenner: KControl > Appearance & Themes > Fonts or Theme Manager01:55
TheMoleAondo: I have tried once before but it all ended messily.01:55
Aondohehe01:55
Aondousually does the couple of first tries01:55
LeeJunFanademan: there are 2 "channels" programs output to normally, stdout (standard output) and stderr (standard error), to get your program to put both channels to your file do whatever > outfile.txt 2>&101:56
Bennerlunitik: yes but i can read anything that's too big... i can boot in recovery mode and type startx, its load great without the font problem.. can i do something from there?01:56
Benneri can = i can't01:56
kestas_how do you change module options?01:56
LeeJunFanthe 2>&1 tells it to put stderr (2) into stdout (1), which will then land both in your outfile.01:57
ademanwell stdout doesn't seem to end up in the file01:57
ademan(what i see in the console as output) doesnt end up in the file01:57
LeeJunFankestas_: you can do it manually by doing modprobe spca5xx option=value01:57
LeeJunFankestas_: that way you can experiment before you do it permanently, you'll need to rmmod spca5xx before modprobing it.01:58
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lunitikBenner: The button alone beneath all the stuff at the top is "adjust all fonts" ... click that... all the way to the right is font size... change that to like 8 for now.... see if that makes things more readable01:58
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LeeJunFanademan: stdout should always be redirected by >, it's stderr that isn't normally.01:59
ademanLeeJunFan: though what you're describing does seem to work, that seems to suggest that output is comming through stderr01:59
ademanwhich is strange01:59
ademaneven Xorg -version doesn't dump like it should, but with 2>&1 it does01:59
LeeJunFanademan: yeah, depends on the program too, sometimes there's good reason for it.02:00
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ademanXorg -version > Dump.txt      leaves me with an empty file, but your method works02:00
qu1ckfr0st#graphics driver update02:00
ademanbut you know, whatever, i know what works now, thanks02:00
qu1ckfr0stoop...wrong command02:00
qu1ckfr0st!graphics driver update02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics driver update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
LeeJunFanademan: you can use that with a pipe as well Xorg -version 2>&1 | less02:00
qu1ckfr0st!drivers02:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:00
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qu1ckfr0st!nvidia02:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:01
ademanLeeJunFan: thanks02:01
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grumpy_penguinAnybody out there?02:03
Bennerahh i dont understand, i rebooted and now its fine.. i did nothing but going into apparence settings02:04
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intelikeyhmmm if you get the little pinguin setting at the top of the screen durring boot then fbcon is working ?02:11
LeeJunFanBenner: well as long as it stays that way :)02:11
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LeeJunFanintelikey: yes02:11
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fatejudgerthis seems like a stretch, but does anyone have any experience with kpilot here?02:12
fatejudgerall of my data got transferred off my Palm to my computer when I hotsynced for the first time after installing Edgy02:12
fatejudgerand now I can't get it back on the Palm02:12
fatejudgerit's the damndest thing too...02:12
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LeeJunFansry fatejudger I prefer to just forget things than to be organized with a palm pilot :) I really could use one.02:13
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fatejudgerLeeJunFan: heh, I know the feeling02:17
fatejudgerLeeJunFan: really though, I haven't had any problems with kpilot before, so this is new02:17
fatejudgerI'm wondering if it could be my Palm...02:17
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intelikeyoooops   i think i'm a module short of mounting cd's    !02:20
LeeJunFanheh02:20
tobias_im sooooooo pisst off at the evil os I will never name again by its correct name!!!02:21
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intelikeyhmmm and if proc/modules is not mounted how can i tell what modules are loaded ?02:21
intelikeymounted/present02:22
tobias_have u heard of what they just said, that there is something in linux that they have rights for so that they can sue us for using anything except suse!!?!?02:22
LeeJunFantobias_: hah, that took me all of 1 month of using windows 98 (my first experience with windows).02:22
tobias_steve evilevil bamer!02:22
tobias_steve the embalmer!02:22
LeeJunFantobias_: yeah, I wondered how that could possibly be when everything in windows is closed source, I'd be willing to bet there's gpl'ed src in windows though. But how does one prove that? I think Ballmer needs to put up proof or shut his mouth.02:23
tobias_Im furius!!02:23
intelikeytobias_ glad you now see the light.02:23
tobias_intelikey: I allways saw the light silly key :)02:23
tobias_no phun intended02:23
tobias_Im just having lots of fun on wordplays today02:23
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intelikeywhy not? it was a good one.02:23
tobias_:)02:24
intelikey:)02:24
lunitikFirst they ignore you, Then they something, Then they attack you.... Then you win02:24
tobias_they stole the thing from mac, who stole the thing from xerox who stole the thing from a poor guy in a garage! why and how can they even speak about other peoples os and say that they stole something from them, its beyond my imagination!02:25
LeeJunFanObviously there's no copying of windows in Linux, or Linux would crash more, and be full of viruses and spyware. :p02:25
lunitikAs big as Microsoft is.... they won't go after the Linux ecosystem.... just spreading a bunch of FUD02:25
__mikemWhat does FUD stand for again?02:25
lunitikFear Uncertainty Doubt02:26
tobias_Fools using dos?02:26
LeeJunFanlunitik: true. But that FUD does hurt when people in suits who own corporations are afraid they can be sued for using Linux.02:26
tobias_:(02:26
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humblerodentHello!02:27
lunitikLeeJunFan: It hurts fools, sure02:27
humblerodent82/M/Argentina, Sorry for badly English, who desire some photographs?02:27
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LeeJunFan!away | joshy02:27
ubotujoshy: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines02:27
LeeJunFanhumblerodent: this isn't a singles channel.02:28
tobias_lol02:28
tobias_humblerodent: what kind of photographs exactly?02:29
humblerodentLeeJunFan: I am sorry, you not desire webcam and hot action?02:29
tobias_lol02:29
tobias_this guy must be kidding02:29
LeeJunFan82/M and you have to ask tobias_ ?02:29
tobias_sorry02:29
tobias_please dont ask me02:30
LeeJunFanA certain phrase "old 84lls" from an adam sandler movie comes to mind.02:30
LeeJunFanhumblerodent: not with you. :p02:30
LeeJunFanlol02:30
humblerodentWho is Adam Sandler?  American screen actor?02:30
tobias_maybe he was born in 198202:30
LeeJunFantobias_: conference with him, find out and tell me :p02:31
LeeJunFanI dare ya.02:31
Frumpy!make02:31
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:31
tobias_not that I doubt people being 82's ability to irc02:31
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rogue780how do I restart the network daemon?02:31
tobias_leejufan :P02:31
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tobias_adam sandler is a funny old boy02:31
rogue780I thought it was sudo inetd restart but it no worky02:31
LeeJunFanrogue780: what exactly are you trying to do? ifdown your network interface and ifup them again?02:32
LeeJunFanrogue780: if so 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' should do it.02:32
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rogue780right, I plugged the network cable into my kubuntu box after it booted and I wanted to get it on the network w/o restarting computer02:32
tamacrackerGuys, how do I stop this file from autostarting?02:33
LeeJunFantamacracker: what file?02:33
tobias_in case someone here hasnt seen the news about the evil empires latest strategy : http://today.reuters.com/news/articlebusiness.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2006-11-21T203220Z_01_L20597961_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-MICROSOFT-LINUX-DC.XML&from=business02:33
tamacracker~/.kde/Autostart$02:33
tamacrackerit's a file called kmix.save02:34
tamacrackerand the program that opens it is Kate.02:34
LeeJunFantamacracker: files in that directory ~/.kde/Autostart will be started when you login to kde, just rm -f ~/.kde/Autostart/kmix.save02:34
rogue780and anyone know why when I just did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and when I changed the time my monitor went blank for a few seconds?02:34
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LeeJunFanrogue780: your screensaver thought the time had passed that it was supposed to go blank in.02:35
LeeJunFanrogue780: for instance if your screensaver thinks it should blank after 5 mins, and you change the clock more than 5 mins into the future it'll blank.02:35
intelikeyrogue780 changing the time that the xscreensaver is watching tells it it's time to activate02:35
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tamacrackerThanks LeeJunFan02:36
LeeJunFanrogue780: and when you restart your network it gets the time from the ubuntu timeserver, and it synced your clock to the correct time.02:36
LeeJunFantamacracker: you're welcome.02:36
intelikeyrogue780 computers are not self aware.  you tell it hours or days have passed it says OK !  and acts accordingly.02:36
tamacrackerI have one more question, why do I have a Ubuntu, and a Ubuntu Generic in my OS selection screen?02:37
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LeeJunFantamacracker: same thing, it's just that one shows the full name of the kernel you are booting.02:37
ubuntu_hola02:37
ubuntu_SOY NUEVO02:37
LeeJunFan!es | ubuntu_02:38
ubotuubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:38
tamacrackeroh ok, so it's ok if it's in my grub?02:38
LeeJunFantamacracker: yeah.02:38
tamacrackercool02:38
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tamacrackerthanks again :D02:38
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rogue780LeeJunFan, intelikey, Thanks guys02:39
intelikeyi have a question, it's more about mindset and reasoning than process.   why does debian kernels put symlinks to the kernel in /   ?02:40
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intelikey^ that assumes that it was an upstreem thing....   i don't know that for sure.02:41
LeeJunFanbeats me. It's probably just another thing from 1992 that they haven't stopped including. :p02:42
intelikeyhehhe02:42
LeeJunFannaw, I shouldn't say that, I really like debian. heheh02:42
intelikeyme to but there is truth in them ther words02:42
LeeJunFanslak's most recent release still uses a 2.4 kernel by default.02:43
intelikeyreally ?02:43
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah, 2.6 is there, but it's not the default kernel.02:44
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intelikeythat's 10.?  or am i behind the times again ?02:44
LeeJunFanintelikey: I don't remember honestly, I only remember reading the article a few months ago.02:45
intelikeyi have not tried to keep up with other distros...   prolly should have.02:45
LeeJunFanOr a few weeks maybe, my life is so boring weeks seem like months :)02:45
intelikeylol02:45
intelikeyLeeJunFan :)02:45
LeeJunFanas far as slakware goes there isn't much to "keep up" on :)02:47
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intelikeyno there isn't...  debian either really.02:48
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intelikeywell the development end of it is moving but the rest is sitting.02:49
LeeJunFanintelikey: I imagine if you keep up with the devel/unstable versions of either there's a lot going on, just that the actual freezes and releases are so far apart.02:49
LeeJunFanright.02:49
LeeJunFanBoth are very important distro's to Linux though too, they both are really the foundation that Linux is built on.02:49
intelikeyyes  and redhat02:50
LeeJunFanintelikey: yes, as much as I hate to admit that.02:50
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LeeJunFanintelikey: redhat isn't really bad, I've just never like a package manager they've had yet.02:51
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LeeJunFanmandrake/mandriva spun off from redhat and had urpmi, which was like apt-get for rpm's. I never cared for fedora's yum either.02:51
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LeeJunFanI've got a client who has a fedora server colocated that I have to admin. I'd give anything for that to be an apt based system instead.02:52
intelikeyyeah.   i like rpm's with urpmi alright   in fact i've had better experance with urpmi than apt02:52
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intelikeybut i know they had a release with a broken urpmi  and that tainted many.02:52
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LeeJunFanintelikey: I did for a long time. I used Mandrake but was really ticked at the amount of changes they were making to it, it almost was becoming it's own OS. I tried debian but wanted packages that weren't older than Jesus, so I tried the unstable version and apt was a real pain.02:53
LeeJunFanWhen I tried kubuntu for the first time, I dumped mandrake an hour later. After using Mandrake for probably 5 years I knew within an hour I liked apt-get more than urpmi.02:54
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LeeJunFanintelikey: I followed the devel version of mandrake for a long time on my personal machine and they broke a lot of stuff, libc, urpmi, rpm, and gcc.02:55
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LeeJunFanI got out a while before that.02:55
intelikeywell i never run/ran testing versions anyway.02:56
LeeJunFanTheir devel was a mess too, their mirrors were broken all the time. It was so bad I finally got sick of it and wrote a PHP page to follow cookers mirrors, and see which ones had the most recent versions of packages and which ones were broken.02:56
intelikeyi stayed out of the cooker cause i dont like the heat.02:56
LeeJunFanMandrake even linked to it from their devel page for a while, in the FAQ :)02:56
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intelikeyimo trying to meet a schedualed release cycle is not the best way to develop software.   but that's openion formed from observation not from practice.02:58
LeeJunFanintelikey: I agree, and I think any programmer will as well, but there's always someone with a suit and the checkbook who decides otherwize. Except for debian and slak, then you see what happens there too :)03:00
intelikeyLeeJunFan yeah  and for my needs/wants that's probably better than the flavour of the month.03:01
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah, I do like the commitment for dapper support though.03:02
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LeeJunFanI don't mind using ubuntu on servers, if I realize there's a problem with an application I can always compile that one application myself.03:03
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gradinhiya03:03
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LeeJunFanI've got a mailserver with breezy on it, 218 days uptime.03:03
gradini've got an issue with vnc from a windows client to a kubuntu server03:03
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gradindoes anybody know how to adjust the key repeat sensitivity on the remote desktop portion of ubuntu?03:04
LeeJunFangradin: xset03:05
gradinxset?03:05
LeeJunFanxset r rate [delay [rate] ] 03:05
LeeJunFanxset rate 250 30          - is default I think.03:06
gradinhrm... now the question is will that affect the normal type rate on the ubuntu box?03:06
gradinor just the remote sessions03:06
LeeJunFanerr xset r rate 250 3003:06
LeeJunFangradin: I honestly don't know as I've never used VNC to access a linux machine.03:07
LeeJunFanI would suspect the system.03:07
LeeJunFanonly for that session though.03:07
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intelikey"xset -r 10" will disable autorepeat for the "1" key on the top row of  an  IBM  PC  key board.  <-- man xset03:07
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LeeJunFangradin: when you vnc into the system are you presented with a new login screen? or are you presented with the currently logged in session?03:09
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gradinLeeJunFan currently logged in session03:09
LeeJunFangradin: ah, then yeah. it will change the rate for the local side too. however when you log out/in again it will be back to default.03:10
LeeJunFangradin: are you using kde's built in vnc server?03:10
gradinLeeJunFan well thats a problem, because i'm testing the idea for remote access when i'm not here03:10
gradinLeeJunFan yes03:10
gradinand the auto repeat is so bad i would not be able to type in xset r off03:11
LeeJunFanI would actually think that the key repeat speed should be adjusted at the client side though.03:11
LeeJunFanhrm.03:11
LeeJunFangradin: I get that sometimes with vmware running linux as a client.03:11
gradinLeeJunFan how do you work around it?03:11
LeeJunFangradin: I wonder if you modprobe rtc (real time clock) if it would help any. Sometimes that helps with keyboard speedaway.03:12
LeeJunFanat least in vmware.03:12
LeeJunFanalthough if my host system doesn't have it I have to xset the rate.03:12
intelikeyrtc is probably already inserted03:12
gradin... modprobe rtc fatal module not present..03:13
intelikeylsmod | grep rtc03:13
LeeJunFangradin: it's probably compiled in then.03:13
gradinintelikey no response..03:14
LeeJunFanor 'grep rtc /proc/interrupts'03:14
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LeeJunFanif that returns anythign then rtc is present03:14
gradinLeeJunFan 8: 3 XT-PIC rtc03:15
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LeeJunFangradin: you've got it then, so that's obviously not helping. :(03:15
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LeeJunFangradin: have you tried other vnc clients on your windows box?03:17
gradinLeeJunFan yeah03:17
gradini just tried again and now its working...03:17
intelikeyeeek  i just found something else wacky   modprobe is using /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386   that would be ok i guess but uname -r is 2.6.15.46403:17
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gradini'm wondering if the remote desktop somehow changes xset 's values during the initial connection...03:18
LeeJunFangradin: xset q will show you current settings,03:18
LeeJunFangradin: my repeat on local system is 250 3003:19
gradinhrm thats what i'm showing aswell...03:20
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gradini switched windows and its back again..03:20
sheftHow do I install a new screensaver?03:20
intelikeyclient side.03:20
LeeJunFansheft: install or just choose?03:20
sheftInstall.03:21
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LeeJunFansheft: it depends on the screensaver. kde has it's own way of handling them, then there's the standard old xscreensaver which kde has a module to allow using those. Installing each type is different.03:21
gradinit may just be latency related... hrm..03:21
LeeJunFanWhat screensaver do you want to install?03:22
sheftLeeJunFan: this one: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4648803:22
gradinLeeJunFan in all honesty repeating keys is more of a hinderance than a blessing...03:24
LeeJunFansheft: hm, not sure.03:25
LeeJunFanThe readme file doesn't say squat03:25
gradinLeeJunFan do you know how i could disable xset r off perminatly?03:25
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LeeJunFangradin: you could write a small script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart03:26
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LeeJunFanprobably easiest.03:26
gradinLeeJunFan i don't know how to script... but i'll figure it out...03:26
gradin:P03:26
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LeeJunFangradin: echo -e "#!/bin/bash\nxset r off" > ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh && chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh03:28
LeeJunFanI hope that ! doesn't screw it up.03:28
LeeJunFanif it does, you'll just get an error or 2 immediately, no harm done.03:29
gradinis there a space between +x and ~/.kde/03:30
intelikeylooks good to me.   but i'm still not sure thats not a client side error03:30
LeeJunFangradin: yes03:30
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LeeJunFanintelikey: me either, I would really think the client side would be doing the repeating. Or perhaps it's got something to do with both of them having repeat on.03:31
intelikeythat maybe...03:31
gradinLeeJunFan that latter sounds more likely03:31
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gradinyeah it didn't like the !03:32
intelikeywell i may not be able to mount the cd with this kernel but it does graphic web browsing in the console like who laid the chunk.03:32
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LeeJunFangradin: try putting a \! instead of just !03:33
intelikey#\!03:33
guillehi all03:34
gradin...03:34
gradinLeeJunFan what would happen if i just left out the !?03:34
LeeJunFangradin: another option might be to edit system notifications under sound & multimedia, Desktop sharing (where you normally set the sounds that play when an even happens), you could have it run xset r off on a connection, and xset r on when the connection is dropped :)03:34
LeeJunFangradin: wouldn't run.03:34
guilleim new to linux and im having a prob enabling my wireless card, can anyon eassist me with this? it would be greatly appreciated03:35
intelikeyLeeJunFan for future refferance  single quotes.03:35
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intelikey           echo -e '#!/bin/bash\nxset r off'03:35
LeeJunFangradin: yeah, do that - single quotes.03:35
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LeeJunFanotherwize you end up with #\!/bin/bash in the file, which isn't good.03:36
intelikeyright.03:36
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gradin...03:36
LeeJunFanintelikey: for some reason I was thinking single ' would not allow the \n03:36
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LeeJunFanbut I just tested it - works fine.03:37
intelikeyLeeJunFan it didn't used too03:37
gradinLeeJunFan ok well i did it the first time without the ! and the second time with...03:37
LeeJunFangradin: just run this:03:37
gradinis that going to crash my box next boot?03:37
LeeJunFanecho -e '#!/bin/bash\nxset r off' > ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh && chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh03:37
LeeJunFanyes it will :p03:37
LeeJunFanno, it's going to turn off key repeat when that user logs in.03:37
gradini mean the first entry03:37
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LeeJunFanwhen you run this again it will overwrite the old file03:38
gradinok03:38
LeeJunFangradin: you can verify with ls ~/.kde/Autostart and make sure repeatoff.sh is the only file in there. Although kubuntu might have something in there by default too. probably a .desktop file or something.03:39
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intelikeyand cat ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh    to make sure the syntax is correct if you like.03:40
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LeeJunFanyeah, gradin, you should see a file with 2 lines: #!/bin/bash and line 2: xset r off03:40
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LeeJunFangradin: and you only need to log out and back in to test it, you do not need to reboot.03:43
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gradinsweet it work thanks guys03:46
gradinhe he... i just realized there are a few keys i actually use that are useful as far as autorepeat is concerned :P03:47
gradinthe delete key and the arrow keys :P03:47
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gradinoh well if it pisses me off enough i'll just check out the manpage for xset and learn the hex values for the matching keys :P03:48
LeeJunFangradin: you can experiment with xset -r or +r to turn on and off individual keys, man xset will give you more info on that.03:48
LeeJunFanyup03:48
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LeeJunFanman it's a slow night on here tonight. Is kubuntu really that easy to use that no one is asking more questions here? hehe03:49
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guillei cant get my wireless to work, can anyone assist please?03:50
LeeJunFanheh, I just peeked in #windows and they are talking about wifi drivers in linux. go figure.03:50
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LeeJunFanhah, must be the hot topic of the night.03:50
guillemy card is recognized but i cant enable it03:50
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LeeJunFanguille: laptop built in?03:51
guilleno pcmcia03:51
guilledo i have to enable that in startup?03:51
LeeJunFanguille: does running 'iwconfig' in a konsole show your wireless card?03:51
guilleyes it does03:51
gradin_yeah i'm on my linux box via my windows box via ssh via vnc...03:52
gradin_i have entirely too much free time...03:52
Melchiorreguille: when you go to System settings => network settings, does your card show up in there?03:52
Melchiorre*and can you enable it there03:53
LeeJunFanguille: does your listed ESSID match your network name? and if you use WEP is the key listed after enc?03:53
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LeeJunFanguille: yes, if you haven't configured it where Melchiorre mentions then that should take care of it.03:54
MelchiorreWhere is the setting for launch feedback (how long the little icon bounces around when you launch a program) hidden in Edgy? I can't find it...03:54
guilleno, essid:off/any , but the prob is that i cant get the card enabled03:54
guilleyes it shows up there, but i cant enable it03:54
guilleas soon as i try to enable it, it disables itself03:55
gradin_oh i got a good one for you, how can i set the built in vnc server in ubunto to disallow access to  the vnc port but still be able to  connect to from  an SSH tunnel?03:55
Melchiorreguille: ahh, I've had that problem... are you using ndiswrapper?03:55
guilleno, its natice03:56
guillenative03:56
Melchiorrehmm03:56
LeeJunFanMelchiorre: kcontrol is still there, then under appearance, launch feedback03:56
LeeJunFanK->run command->kcontrol03:57
MelchiorreLeeJunFan: cheers :)03:57
intelikey[alt] +[f2]   type kcontrol [enter] 03:57
intelikeyhehhe more than one way to control k03:58
LeeJunFangradin_: iptables (firewall)03:58
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gradin_ hey guille what happens if you ./wlan0 restart in your /etc/init.d03:58
intelikeygradin_ ever use quicktables ?03:58
gradin_LeeJunFan: i have to go that far in to configure that?03:58
gradin_intelikey: nope03:59
guillei have not tryed that03:59
LeeJunFangradin_: I think if you run iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT && iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DROP03:59
guilleim new to linux03:59
guilleill try that now03:59
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LeeJunFangradin_: as long as eth0 is your device connecting you to your network.03:59
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pussfeller!firefox03:59
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins03:59
intelikeyyou should try it.    it's a script that sets up a firewall for you asking only a few questions     it's nice.03:59
LeeJunFan5900 is default VNC port isn't it?04:01
intelikeyprovides a couple of other scripts too   "quickblock"  for one.    one can use that to very quickly block a port or ip.04:01
gradin_intelikey: hrm...04:01
LeeJunFan:) nice time to ask :)04:01
gradin_LeeJunFan:  yes04:01
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guillegradin.. i typed "cd /etc/init.d04:02
LeeJunFanguille: what does iwconfig say the device name for your wireless? ath0? wlan0? eth1? etc..04:02
guilleeth104:02
gradin_guille: oh sorry04:03
guillethen i typed "./eth1 restart04:03
gradin_guille: yeah you got it04:03
gradin_what it say?04:03
LeeJunFanguille: if you type 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [your network name]  enc [your wep key]  && sudo dhclient eth1' it should bring it up.04:03
guilleno such file is04:03
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intelikeyi don't know enough about networking/iptables to write the rules but i can use quicktables and have a pretty good firewall in less time than it takes some people can get out of vi   :04:03
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LeeJunFanas well as tc and ip adv routing.04:04
gradin_intelikey: i think i'll pass on that one... for now, i'll have to do that at some point as the te linux box is a webserver04:04
intelikeyi know who to pm with my next iptables Q ....04:05
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LeeJunFanyou know you're a geek when you can write QoS rules w/o consulting a man page.04:05
gradin_but for now i think i'll pass and just make sure to keep 5900 closed04:05
intelikeygradin_  k just a thought.04:05
gradin_intelikey: well thankies :)04:05
gradin_i'm surei'll have to do it at some point..04:05
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gradin_guille:  ok then something is off...04:06
guilleyeah04:07
gradin_guile ls and then look for eth0 wlan004:07
guillei tryed those comands but no results04:07
LeeJunFannot in init.d they won't be.04:07
LeeJunFanguille: you tried the iwconfig and dhclient?04:07
guilleyeah04:08
LeeJunFanguille: if you run iwconfig now does the info show correctly? the ESSID?04:08
LeeJunFanjust iwconfig with no args.04:08
guilleonce i did dhclient i got no working leases in persistent database - sleeping" as the last line04:09
intelikeyhttp://qtables.random.org    i think was the url  btw.04:09
guilleno, now essid is blacnk04:09
gradin_LeeJunFan:  where are the init scrips for network interfaces stored in kubuntu?04:10
LeeJunFanguille: yeah, it's going to do that if it can't talk over the connection. Only I was so sure it'd work that I figured I'd have ya run that too :) shows what I know hehe.04:10
guillethanks for all your help guys honestly04:10
LeeJunFangradin_: they aren't like that, you come from gentoo?04:10
gradin_LeeJunFan: yes...04:10
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gradin_very painful...04:11
LeeJunFangradin_: /etc/network/interfaces stores all the config for interfaces, it's a flat file. running ifup [dev]  ifdown [dev]  will run the init for that device.04:11
gradin_LeeJunFan: wow thats soo much simplere :P04:11
LeeJunFangradin_: yeah, tell me about it, I know from experience. I got handed an ISP to admin with a mix of SuSe, LFS, and gentoo.04:11
gradin_LeeJunFan:  i mean come on, the device doesn't register so you have to create a symlink from lo04:12
gradin_who the hell is gonna figure that one out on their own?04:12
LeeJunFangradin_: if you look around in /etc/network/if-up.d and other such dirs therein you see what's run when the appropriate actions are issued for a device.04:12
gradin_LeeJunFan: yeah i poked my head into there for a minute to make sure i didn't loose it... :P04:13
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gradin_and another desktop computer...04:13
gradin_and a nother harddrive..04:13
gradin_and flatscreen monitors...04:14
LeeJunFangradin_: one such thing to take note of is the ntpdate script, if you often boot up when not connected to the internet you notice a hangtime while a device is attempting to ifup during boot. It's ntpdate trying to sync the clock, rm that file or put exit on the line right after #!/bin/sh04:14
gradin_and a nother harddrive... :P04:14
gradin_LeeJunFan: good to know :)04:15
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LeeJunFanI want to run beryl on a 9' screen :)04:15
gradin_intelikey: my ubuntu box is running an an amd 1.5 ghz with 256 mb ram and a 40 gig hd04:15
LeeJunFanI did it at the library with their projector but the contrast was aweful, and resolution limited to 1024x76804:15
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intelikeyor use update-rc.d  like it's meant to be used...04:16
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jvz_I updated to feisty, and I don't remember how to configure something in KDE04:16
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intelikeygradin_ yeah you need a new one....04:16
LeeJunFanAMD64 3200, 1G ram.04:16
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jvz_how do I make it so when a window is maximised you can't resize the window?04:16
intelikeyjvz_ in kcontrol somewhere04:17
jvz_intelikey: I looked like everywhere and couldn't find it04:17
gradin_intelikey: i'm gonna keep running ubuntu on that one till i get my 2.6 intel up04:17
jvz_for some reason, when I updated form edgy to feisty, kde wanted to reconfigure itself as if it was never configured...04:18
gradin_when i bought parts some ahole sendt me a fried board04:18
intelikeythat's nice.    but this isn't  #ubuntu+1 jvz_04:18
Melchiorrejvz_: system settings => Window behavior => Moving => allow moving and resizing of maximised windows04:18
jvz_thanks, Melchiorre04:18
Melchiorrenp ;)04:18
jvz_I can't believe I didn't notice that :P04:19
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guilleok guys04:20
gradin_intelikey: my bride and joy is the p 500 compaqu presario with 512 MB ram thats running windows xp with a blackbox shell04:20
intelikeybride and joy04:20
gradin_intelikey: sorry pride04:20
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LeeJunFangradin_: and I thought I loved my computer.04:20
intelikeyjust checking.04:20
guillepci kinfocenter, my cand states capabilities <access denied>04:20
guilledoes that help?04:20
guillecard*04:21
gradin_guille: sudo pci kinfocenter04:21
Th3_Cr0up13Rhey guys how is it going ?04:21
intelikeygradin_ you no champ.   i don't relinquish that title easily.04:21
gradin_intelikey: i smell a challenge...04:21
campbchhmm...04:21
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guilleyes04:22
intelikeylol04:22
guilleno i was wrong04:22
campbchok, just for fun, i got lmms to play around with... it was working fine, but something broke, and now sound is not working.04:22
guillepower managent version 2 instead04:22
campbchit does rough clicking sounds on ALSA, so i got jack and already had oss... oss just gives static04:23
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Th3_Cr0up13Rthat kaffeine thing doesnt play any avi.wmv files04:24
Th3_Cr0up13Rwhat libraries is there to make it work04:24
Th3_Cr0up13R?04:24
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Th3_Cr0up13Ri tried adept for avi, wmv but i dont get anything04:24
intelikey!mp304:24
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:24
intelikey!repos04:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:25
intelikey - But please use free formats if you can:04:25
intelikeyand i can.04:25
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=== gradin_ never was able to get the box to play avi's
=== gradin_ always got a blue screen with audio...
intelikey0004:26
intelikeybsoA04:26
=== gradin_ made sure mp3's worked though :P
LeeJunFanmine does fine with the right mplayer codecs.04:26
intelikey!mplayer04:26
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile04:26
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.04:26
LeeJunFangetting vlc to encode wmv and wmv2 with mp3 audio was a trick, had to compile my own ffmpeg.04:26
intelikeythat too04:27
gradin_intelikey:  no just blue screen during attempted playback of restrickted formats04:27
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campbchas far as the sound problems are concerned, can i uninstall alsa to reinstall it without problems? i dont want to break my sound drivers and have to redo everything04:28
intelikeyactually i use vlc for avi files...04:28
intelikeyin the console of curse04:28
LeeJunFanI use vlc for pretty much every video file now.04:28
LeeJunFanberyl doesn't like kaffeine or xine04:28
gradin_work drives for this computer...04:28
campbchanyone know?04:29
campbchi need to have at least some notion before i start whether it will break something04:29
LeeJunFancampbch: you can't really remove alsa, it's kind of part of the kernel.04:29
campbchwell04:29
LeeJunFanmodules at elast.04:29
LeeJunFanleast04:29
campbchit's playing crackling noises04:29
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campbchin lmms04:29
campbchand i cant get sound from other things04:29
LeeJunFanwhat's lmms?04:30
campbchlinux multimedia studio04:30
campbchees like fruityloops04:30
gradin_ouch04:30
gradin_production machine...04:30
intelikeyhmmm campbch alsa is in the kernal.  i don't think you can "uninstall" that without trubble.   the alsa tools package   alsa-tools   shouldn't be a problem to remove.04:31
gradin_camb before i try anything i'd reboot to see if the it was just a hardware lockup04:31
intelikeyoh LeeJunFan just said that.... sorry i'm slow.04:31
campbchwell... i reinstalled lmms already04:31
LeeJunFancampbch: you get no sound in anything else?04:32
campbchwhat exactly is happening when it plays crackling noises ambiently?04:32
campbchno, i couldnt get sound on flash movies...04:32
campbchill recheck that04:32
campbchbecause amarok is working04:32
LeeJunFancampbch: that's sometimes a flash thing.04:32
intelikey!flash904:33
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html04:33
LeeJunFancampbch: I had that problem with google vids, only thing was in konq I had no audio, in firefox I had no video.04:33
intelikeythat is beta ^04:33
Th3_Cr0up13Ri like vlc , tried it now but it doesnt play either the ones that i already could before04:33
campbchno, youtube has worked04:33
campbchconsistently04:33
campbchuntil the problems started04:33
Th3_Cr0up13Rwell it plays them but no video just plays04:33
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campbchok, flash sound is now working.04:34
LeeJunFancampbch: well, to be honest linux has a very stupid sound system, I'm sad to say. In order for linux to play sound it writes directly to the sound device via /dev/dsp, and only one applicaion can write to it at a time. So to make it able to play more than one sound stream at a time things like artsd and esd (for gnome) were invented. Only some applicaitons don't work well with one or the other, etc...04:36
campbchwell, ill look at it later... sleepytime...04:36
campbchhmm?04:36
Th3_Cr0up13Rno i got the video for the files i could before but not the files that i want to play now.04:36
campbchwell04:36
LeeJunFanAnd if you run an applicaiton that isn't aware of either of artsd and it takes control of /dev/dsp then nothing else will work for sound unless you stop the application which took over /dev/dsp04:37
gradin_you guys ever read up on the decss thing that happened a while back?04:37
campbchlmms does not work, on its own, in conditions where it used to work... also, jack does not even detect and oss has static.04:37
campbchalso, it is happening all the time whenthe program is running04:37
campbchas opposed to just when it would be playing a sound04:37
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LeeJunFancampbch: that almost sounds like it's got an input enabled like mic that's picking up and replaying noise.04:38
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campbch:( i have no mic04:38
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LeeJunFancampbch: you're not being very helpful here :p04:38
LeeJunFanhow the heck am I supposed to solve your problem if it's difficult ? haha04:39
intelikeya script like        sudo kill -9 `fuser /dev/dsp`         can unclog the sound pipe....04:39
LeeJunFanintelikey: yeah, or doesn't fuser have a -k switch?04:39
campbchand i just checked the mixer, its not on in there04:39
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campbchi dont know what else to tell you :(04:39
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intelikeyLeeJunFan yeah prolly so....   i could have really extended that   with find  and a pipe or two.04:40
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campbchthat command didnt do anyhting, it returned a list of possible switches04:41
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intelikeyok     fuser -k -signal -9 /dev/dsp       there that look better ?04:41
intelikeyoops forgot to sudo it.04:42
campbchwell, ill take a look later...04:42
inkwellhow do i get to the Synaptic Package Manager?04:42
intelikeysudo fuser -k -signal -9 /dev/dsp04:42
intelikeysudo kill -9 `fuser /dev/dsp`04:42
intelikeyi thought there was a reason i used kill    couldn't remember tho04:43
intelikeysaves 4 keystrokes.04:43
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LeeJunFanwhy not do something liek while read line ; do kill -9 ${line} ; done < ${fuser /dev/dsp}04:44
LeeJunFanhehe04:44
intelikeyinkwell you'd have to install it.04:44
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intelikeyinkwell use adept04:44
intelikey!adept04:44
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:44
inkwellthanks04:44
LeeJunFanoh crap, that wouldn't work, have to pipe the output to while.04:44
LeeJunFanbetter yet add the -v option so you have to pipe it thru an awk or cut first :)04:45
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starhawkhi all04:45
intelikeylol LeeJunFan04:46
inkwelli'm running 6.10 is something differnt?04:46
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LeeJunFaninkwell: adept for kubuntu, synaptic for ubuntu ( by default ).04:46
flaccid!helix04:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:46
intelikey!hidden | inkwell04:46
ubotuinkwell: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles04:47
intelikeythat's different ^04:47
starhawkhow do I get my wireless usb adapter working linksys wireless B04:47
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inkwelltring to install nvidia driver for 2 days now04:47
Melchiorreis there a way of unhiding certain dirs?04:47
LeeJunFan!nvidia04:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:47
LeeJunFanyou followed that yet?04:48
intelikeyMelchiorre  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles04:48
intelikeyhey quick Q does gnome use a /.hidden also ?04:49
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russell__hello04:49
starhawkhow do I get my wireless usb adapter working linksys wireless B04:49
LeeJunFanyes04:50
intelikey!wifi | starhawk04:50
ubotustarhawk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:50
russell__does anyone know why on earth mounts rewrite directory permissions in kubuntu?04:50
LeeJunFanintelikey: the .hidden is system hacked. It affects firefox as well.04:50
intelikeyrussell__ yes04:50
starhawkit is not seeing it in the wifi04:50
LeeJunFanrussell__: are you saying you want a mount to have a specific permission?04:51
russell__ok two part question intelikey, first.. why? and second how can you get around it so that it doesn't happen04:51
intelikeyLeeJunFan someone said it affected bash too but then someone else said it didn't affect the console at all...04:51
russell__basically I'm trying to mount a samba share to a local directory for a user, and I have to mount as root, so it rewrites the ownership and group to root04:51
LeeJunFanintelikey: no, it's just file request windows like open,save as, etc..04:51
starhawklooked at the doc. not much help for wireless B adapter04:51
russell__but I need access from my local user04:51
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russell__and I can't change the permissions after it has been mounted04:52
LeeJunFanrussell__: mount -ouid=[username]  ... rest of your options04:52
LeeJunFanrussell__: will mount it as that listed user.04:52
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LeeJunFanerr smbmount if that's what you're using.04:52
intelikeyrussell__ because you read the permissions on the mounted fs    and for the next part i'll assume it's m$ krap because it's changing the perms on the mountpoint   so you need to enclude some options for the mount command   on the cli the options would be -o fmask=666,dmask=77704:53
starhawk<intelikey>it is not seeing it in the wifi04:53
intelikeythe reason M$ krap does that is because there is no permissions bit on the M$ made fs  so mount has to impliment a vertual permissions bit for the entire fs.04:55
intelikeystarhawk sorry. you'll have to ask someone else.  i don't have wifi.04:55
russell__thanks LeeJunFan that worked great.. I checked the man page for mount and it listed group and user for -o options, I tried both of those but neither worked.. the uid option was down at the bottom under file system specific mounts, only reason I found it was I did a search for uid04:55
starhawkthank you then04:55
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steve__HI!!!04:56
steve__Where CAN me dl this the fastest!!!?04:56
intelikeyrussell__ fs specific options....04:56
intelikeyin the man page.04:56
steve__bobby04:56
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russell__intelikey: normally that would be true but there isn't any m$ involved here.. I'm connecting from my laptop runing kubuntu to a freebsd box with the directory I mounting having the same username and permissions of the directory I'm mounting too04:57
russell__intelikey: haha yeah I know.. but look at kubuntu's man page for mount04:57
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Melchiorresteve__: what are you trying to dl?04:57
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russell__they list the normal -o options and they don't include uid in there, its only listed down at the bottom of the man page literally under "file system specific options"04:58
intelikeythe mount manpage is not distro specific.04:58
russell__of course it is04:58
russell__freebsd has different man pages that kubuntu04:58
russell__as do some other distros04:58
russell__maybe not all linux distros have there own.. but not all man pages are the same04:58
intelikeywhat other distros >?04:59
russell__but either way thanks for the help guys that worked great04:59
russell__other distros that don't use the same man pages.. take your pic04:59
russell__either way there is differences04:59
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russell__can't give you a specific example right now for linux distros.. I've been using debian derivatives for a while now.. but compare freebsd's man page for ln and compare it to kubuntu's man page for ln05:01
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russell__intelikey: no I'm not05:01
russell__you just misunderstood me05:02
russell__I said that different distros of *nix have different man pages05:02
Dr_willislets see.. i need a nice simple way to convert a mp3 to a MONO mp3....05:02
Dr_willis:)05:02
russell__thanks for the help guys05:02
intelikeyunix != linux != mac != solaris ....   lumping everything that is not M$ into one pile is 0.o    but, NEXT !05:05
russell__ok... not seeing your point05:05
russell__you're the one who brought M$ into the situation05:06
russell__the only thing that my issue had to do with M$ is that it was using a protocol they created05:06
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jarnHow do I access the files on a disk I have in? :O05:09
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inkwellhow do i run apt-setup?05:09
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intelikeyjarn what kind of disk ?05:11
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intelikeyinkwell sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt   maybe05:12
jarnintelikey: Playstation disk... trying to make an iso of it.05:13
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LeeJunFanwhy does every article I read about linux say redhat is the Linux giant? the #fedora channel has less people than #kubuntu and WAY less than #ubuntu, and any #'s I've actually seen show ubuntu far ahead.05:14
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intelikeyjarn dd if=/dev/"devicenode" of=filename.iso     where "devicenode"  is the device your drive is.   like /dev/hdc05:15
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Dr_willisLeeJunFan,  go ask the Busineses spending the $$$ on real life projects/servers/work what they are using.05:16
intelikeyLeeJunFan cause jo citicen can name one linux distro  hedhat .    he read it in a magizene some place.05:17
jarnintelikey: I tried that, it said it was 0 bytes.05:17
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intelikeyjarn right device ?05:17
intelikeytest with eject /dev/hdc   as per the example.05:17
jarnintelikey: I believe so... I only have one disk drive, so wouldn't it be /dev/cdrom005:18
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intelikeyprolly not.05:18
intelikeytry a real address  not the symlink05:18
jarnhdc gives no medium found.05:18
jarnWhat is the real address?05:19
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intelikey /dev/hdb   /dev/scd0  /dev/hdd05:19
intelikeystart in you'll find it.05:19
LeeJunFanDr_willis: I know a number of people using Linux in server applications and only one of them is redhat.05:20
intelikeyjarn dmesg | grep cd    might help.05:20
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intelikeyjarn could k3b not iso that disk ?05:22
inkwell<intelikey>run that from the Shell - Konsole05:22
inkwell?05:22
inkwellsudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt05:22
intelikeyinkwell yeah05:22
inkwellnope:(05:22
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intelikeyinkwell if i said it's probably cli.05:23
intelikeyinkwell what are you trying to do ?05:23
jarnk3b says I have no disk in the drive.05:23
jarnWhen I most certainly do.05:23
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inkwellThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem05:23
intelikeysudo apt-setup && sudo apt-get update05:24
intelikeybut i don't have apt-setup.....05:24
intelikeyi've got an   apt-config05:24
jarnI'05:24
jarnI'll just look in the morning more.05:25
inkwellme too05:25
inkwellcool, progress05:25
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intelikeyjarn  did you find the drive ?05:25
mr_daemonOkay my windows share always comes out as read only no matter what I do when mounted... any ideas?05:26
Dr_willismr_daemon,  you are refering to windows accessing your Linux samba shares? or Linux accessing the windows shares?05:26
mr_daemonDr_willis, Linux mounting a cifs filesystem on a Win2k3 server...05:27
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mr_daemonDr_willis, I have done this before in Dapper...05:28
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Dr_williscant say that ive ever had that problem.. or seen anyone else mention it in here about edgy.05:28
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lalo_hello all05:31
lalo_i have a question.....05:31
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aj_anyone here install kxdocker on edgy?05:31
inkwellThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem05:31
lalo_why if a change a new amarok theme it does change?05:31
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SilentSnowCan someone explain to me how to install a wusb54g v4 linksys wireless adapter on ubuntu?05:32
intelikeyinkwell did you even try; sudo apt-setup ; sudo apt-get update05:33
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intelikeyor are you just one of those people that like to whine ?05:33
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inkwellyea, don't work05:34
intelikeywhat does it say ?05:34
intelikeydon't work doesn't help us help you.05:34
dan14hello all, i have a quick question... what is the KDE equivalent to gnome-session05:34
dan14?05:34
inkwellcommand not found05:34
intelikeybash command   or sudo command  not found ?05:35
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inkwellsudo05:35
intelikeydan14 startkde ?05:35
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dan14thats what i was thinking, but i wanted to be sure that its not a script that is a shell that KDE runs from05:36
intelikeyinkwell so your system doesn't have apt-setup either...  ok   try replacing setup with config and see what it does.05:36
Dr_willisheh.. its always a script :)05:36
dan14the point is im altering a beryl script to work in kde but the script was written for gnome05:36
Dr_willisstartkde is a script :)05:37
intelikeydan14 startkde is a script    /bin/sh script.05:37
Dr_willisgnome-session seems to be a binary05:37
inkwell"bash apt-config"?05:37
inkwellor sudo apt-config?05:37
intelikeyinkwell no05:37
Dr_willisamuseing script...05:37
dan14what would bash do?05:37
intelikeysudo apt-config05:37
dan14i am used to slackware05:37
Dr_willis# Set the background to plain grey. The standard X background is nasty, causing moire effects and exploding people's heads.05:37
intelikey!sudo dan1405:38
ubotusudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB05:38
intelikey!sudo | dan1405:38
ubotudan14: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:38
dan14lol05:38
inkwellapt-config is a simple tool to read the APT config file05:38
inkwellblah blah blah05:39
intelikeydan14 mixed two of you.     ls -l /bin/sh05:40
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inkwellapt 0.6.45ubuntu14 for linux i386 compiled on Sep 27 2006 23:43:3605:40
inkwellUsage: apt-config [options]  command05:41
inkwellapt-config is a simple tool to read the APT config file05:41
aj_nobody here uses kxdocker?05:41
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inkwellCommands:05:41
inkwell   shell - Shell mode05:41
intelikeyinkwell sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt      you did that ?05:41
inkwell   dump - Show the configuration05:41
inkwellOptions:05:41
inkwell  -h   This help text.05:41
inkwell  -c=? Read this configuration file05:41
inkwell  -o=? Set an arbitrary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp05:41
inkwellinkwell@inkwell-desktop:~$05:41
inkwellwhat is all that?05:41
inkwellyeah05:41
inkwellinkwell@inkwell-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt05:42
inkwellinkwell@inkwell-desktop:~$05:42
intelikeyall that is a flood in an irc channel that can get you kicked out..    in your konsole it's a help message.05:42
inkwellsorry05:42
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madmazzhi05:42
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intelikeyok no error means no error.    inkwell;  now run  sudo apt-get update05:43
madmazzanyone know how to join yahoo chats using GAIM?05:43
madmazzwhen I try it tells me that ROOM may be full.. on any chat05:43
intelikeyinkwell is it updating ?05:44
inkwellE: Type "nvidia-glx" is not know on line one.......05:44
inkwellin source list /etc/apt/sources.lis05:45
intelikeyon line one.... ???   ah.05:45
intelikeyinkwell pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list05:45
intelikey!paste05:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:45
inkwellE: Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list05:45
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intelikeyinkwell  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   <-- put er thar05:45
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intelikeyit took me this long to pry the real problem out of him....05:46
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inkwell E: Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in sourc05:49
intelikeyinkwell bring us the url to your pastebin please.05:49
inkwellhow?05:50
intelikeylets try something else.      is that edgy or dapper you are running ?05:50
inkwell6.10???? edgy???05:51
intelikeyk give me a second.05:51
inkwelldownloaded from newsgroup and figured i would try it05:51
intelikeyfind that and copy it to  /etc/apt/sources.list     sudo cp edgy /etc/apt/sources.list05:53
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italyhmm05:53
italyis there a way to delete root?05:53
intelikeythen run   sudo apt-get update     it should work now. inkwell05:53
intelikeyitaly the account or the dir ?05:54
italythe account05:54
inkwellno such file or dir05:54
italyi think i screwed up05:54
italyi changed root's password and now I can't login05:54
italyand my 'italy' account is no longer in the admin group.05:54
italyso uh05:54
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intelikeyitaly i don't think you'd want to delete the account.    login as root   add yourself to the admin group and passwd -l root    but don't log out until you test your accounts login and sudo05:55
inkwellno such file or dir05:55
italyI cannot login as root05:55
italyit asks for a password and i don't know it05:56
Dr_willisheh05:56
intelikeyinkwell so find where it put it.05:56
Dr_willisyou changed roots password and cant rember it?05:56
italyapparently05:56
HawkwindSo boot to single user mode and change it05:56
italyi changed it in 'User Managament'05:56
Dr_willisi wonder how people manage to forget such things.. heh05:56
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italywell i probably typed it incorrectly since it didn't ask me to verify it.05:56
intelikeyitaly hehhe so boot to init=/bin/sh  remount the fs rw and do the work from there.05:57
Dr_willissystem recovery 101 time.05:57
intelikeyjust remember to remount,ro befor reboot05:57
Dr_willisor boot a live cd, mount and chroot to the system, and use passwd command.05:57
italyi like Dr_willis idea05:57
italyhow does chroot work again?05:58
intelikeyyes or a live cd if that's an option to you.05:58
italywell i have kubuntu on disc :)05:58
bcrockettWhat's the best way to run Ubuntu and Windows XP concurrently?05:58
intelikeysudo -i   then    mount /dev/'your-hd' /mnt ;chroot /mnt05:58
intelikeyand work from there.05:59
Dr_willisbcrockett,  vmware is darn handy05:59
bcrockettDr_willis OK, will look into it. Thanks.05:59
intelikeyqemu maybe too ?05:59
Dr_willisI have better luck with vmware06:00
italycan i do sudo -d root ?06:01
bcrockettDr_willis: With Ubuntu as the host and XP as the guest, or XP as the host and Ubuntu as the guest?06:01
intelikeyi tried to use vmware but it required restricted modules and nvidia  so i can'd it.06:01
italyer passwd -d root06:01
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intelikeyitaly yeah you can.   but that allows passwordless login to root06:02
italywell can I change it later on?06:02
intelikeyitaly oh   and you can't login as root in kdm at all unless you hack the config06:02
intelikey"which may be done from the gui as well iirc"06:03
italyi'm trying to login via console06:03
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italyi could just delete everything in the shadow file06:04
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Dr_willisbcrockett,  depends. :P  ya could do it either way06:05
intelikeyitaly sure  i have no problem with you using a temporarry passwordless root login.    in fact it's probably even better to just add  " openvt -fc 24 -- su -  "    to an init script.   like the /etc/rc.local   until you get that all streightened out.06:05
bcrockettDr_willis: ko06:05
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Dr_willisbcrockett,  personally i run vmware under ubuntu, with a win98 install on the vmware setup. :)06:06
Dr_willissince xp would proberly have hissy fits with its lame activation stuff.06:06
bcrockettAh.06:07
intelikeybtw that would open a root console on tty24  right alt + f12 to get there from any console.06:07
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intelikeyone word of caution.  if you use an init line like i said above.  when you exit that shell there is nothing to respawn it until runlevel change.06:09
jontecHow do I insert special characters in the keyboard... I saw in my documentation once that it used the win key, but my search is broken for my documentation.... can anyone point me to a table?06:09
bcrockettjontec: Google ASCII06:10
bcrockettUse the ALT key, not the Windows key.06:10
jontecbut does the win key have the same function as the alt key would on windows?06:10
intelikeyjontec http://tldp.org would be a good way to search the docs.06:10
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intelikey!mediakeys06:11
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net06:11
bcrockettjohtec: my mistake...06:12
intelikeyi think there is something on the wiki also....06:12
intelikey!wiki06:12
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation06:12
intelikeyok anything else before i leave ?06:14
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intelikeytime's up.    good night, and God bless.06:15
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italygah06:16
italyi booted my liv cd and did "sudo -i; mount /dev/hdcXX /mnt ; chroot /mnt06:17
italythen passwd -d root06:17
italyi rebooted back and it still asks for a password06:17
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jontecthere is nothing anywhere06:19
jontecwhy is the wiki NEVER helpful. in all of my year (one year) of using it... it has never provided me with the information I need.06:20
Dr_willisyou did use /dev/hdcXX where XX is the proper ids for your hard drive? or dod you just mindlessly paste the stuff...06:20
crimsunjontec: then help make it more useful instead of whining that it's unhelpful.06:22
Dr_willisthe windows key is different from the alt key. :)06:22
jonteccrimsun:well I have... so don't lecture me.06:22
crimsunjontec: if I wanted to lecture, it'd be elsewhere.06:23
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italyit's working06:23
italyi went to a different tty and i could login as root :|06:23
italyso i ran passwd and changed it06:23
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italygod damn it06:26
italysu still isn't working everywhere06:26
Dr_willisHmm..06:26
Dr_willistry su -06:26
Dr_willisand sudo is diffent from 'su'06:27
italyi mean like06:27
italyi can't open add/remove programs06:27
italywhen it asks for the password it fails06:27
italybut when i run su from the terminal06:27
italyi can get into it06:27
Dr_willisthat is using SUDO, not su06:27
italywhat is06:27
Dr_willisyou need to check yoru sudoers list, and what users have admin/sudo priviliges06:27
italyadd/remove?06:27
Dr_willisSUDO is different, it uses the users password. not roots06:28
Dr_willissu uses the root users password06:28
Dr_willissudo is a way to allow speficic users to do specific 'root' tasks. , su changes the user to another user.06:29
italyuhh06:30
italyi'm looking at my sudo list06:30
italy# User privilege specification06:30
italyroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL06:30
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Dr_willisnotice the .........06:31
Dr_willis# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges06:31
Dr_willis%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL06:31
Dr_willisany users in the admin group can do the sudo stuff.06:31
unix_infidelintelligent design :P06:31
italyoh06:31
italyI took my italy account of out of 'admin' group06:31
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Dr_willisgrep  admin /etc/group06:32
Dr_willisadmin:x:114:willis06:32
Dr_willisNOW you are thinking... :)06:32
italy# User privilege specification06:32
italyroot    ALL=(ALL) ALL06:32
italydamn it06:32
italylpadmin:x:109:italy06:32
italyadmin:x:113:06:32
Dr_willisi forget how to put a user in the admin group. :)06:32
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italyi think i know what to add :)06:32
Dr_willistheres a comand to do it..06:32
unix_infidelhmm, i'm curious, is it possible to run kdesu as a user that's not in an admin group?06:32
italycan't I just edit it myself?06:32
Dr_willisya could.. but  its proberly best to use the command. heh heh06:33
italyadmin:x:113:italy ?06:33
italywhat's the command06:33
italyI could login as root06:33
italygo to the User option thing06:33
italyunless I can't login as root in kdm06:33
Dr_willissudo addgroup peggy admin06:33
Dr_willisadded user peggy to the admin group for me. :)06:34
Dr_willisadmin:x:114:willis,peggy06:34
italyworked06:34
italythx06:34
Dr_willisjust use 'startx' as root from the console to get to a X running as root (which is a bad idea)06:34
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Dr_willistheres some way to let every user  run sudo.,. but thats a bad idea also. heh06:35
Dr_willistheres a way to set it where they dont have to type in their password again also.. but thats also a bad idea. :)06:35
crimsundepends what you allow those users to 'sudo'06:35
Dr_willissome disrtos do it that way06:35
Dr_willisso it all boils down to 'how paranoid do you want to be'06:35
crimsunif they can only 'sudo' /bin/lsb_release, it's not as frightening06:36
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Dr_willissudo bash06:36
Dr_willis:)06:36
italyis there any way to add universal package lists in Adept06:36
crimsunroot shells are always frightening06:36
italyuniverse even06:37
unix_infideli always make sure i've downed atleast 2 cups of coffee when that # pops up.06:37
unix_infidelwhen \> shows up, i know i'm screwed either way....06:37
italyfirst time i used linux, i ran rm -rf /* within 5 mins of installing06:38
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unix_infidelthat's what happens when you hang out in undernet06:38
jontec!compiz06:39
italyfucker told me to do it06:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:39
italylost my ipod06:39
kmtesd06:39
Dr_willisthis is when it pays to learn the fundamentals.06:40
italyI don't do my own research because i'm a stupid human06:40
Dr_willisuniverse is easially added to the  apt/sources.list06:41
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italyi see06:41
Dr_willis!repos06:41
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:41
Dr_willis!apt06:41
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:41
italyubuntu's manager thing had a place where you could add it :)06:41
Dr_willisall it does there is add  them to that file06:41
Dr_willissynaptic can be installed easially enough06:41
italyI don't like appending things by hand06:41
Dr_willisif you like it.06:41
Dr_willis!universe06:42
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:42
JucatoAdept also has a place where you could add it06:42
Dr_willisadding universe is just uncommenting a few lines.06:42
italyI just want VLC for christ sake06:42
Dr_willisthat 'add/remove programs' varient of adept has check box's that do the same thing06:42
Dr_willisfire it up.. chgeck the box's, search for vlc install...06:42
italyI ain't seeing no god damn check boxes06:42
Dr_willislook in the menus.. add/remove programs.. THAT is a 'variant' of adept.06:42
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Dr_willisthe K menu that is. :)06:43
master_hello06:43
Jucato!universe | italy06:43
ubotuitaly: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:43
JucatoDr_willis: the checkboxes in Add/Remove doesn't enable universe/multiverse. it just shows them. they have to be enabled through Adept Manager06:44
Dr_willisJucato,  you sure? i though ive done it that way befor.. but that may of been under dapper.06:44
italywhy06:44
italysudo is broke again06:44
Dr_willisactually I thought the thing asked to enable them the first time.06:44
Dr_willisbut i got my sources.list so  tweaked.. i forget what is the defaults.06:45
JucatoDr_willis: yes I'm sure. because I have universe/multiverse enabled, and the checkboxes are still unchecked everytime I start up Add/Remove Programs06:45
italylpadmin:x:109:italy06:45
italyadmin:x:113:06:45
italywhat is this joke06:45
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JucatoDr_willis: maybe you're talking about the dapper-commercial repos06:45
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Dr_willisJucato,  that may be it.06:45
unix_infidel!dapper-commercial06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dapper-commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
unix_infidel!commercial06:46
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
jontec!what do you know06:46
jonteclol.06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about what do you know - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
jontec!06:47
jontecbye guys.06:47
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italyweird06:48
italysudo suddenly stopped working06:48
italyoh06:49
italysudo works when i use my italy password now for some reason :\06:49
Jucatosudo always asks for your own password06:49
italyi thought it only worked for your su account?06:50
Dr_willissu and sudo are differnt..06:50
Jucatothere is no su/root account enabled by default06:50
Dr_willissu -              wants root password..06:50
Dr_willissudo wants your users password06:50
italyi'm just not going to worry about it06:50
Dr_willisand what Jucato  said is correct.. there is no default root password.. direct logging in as root is disabled.06:51
Dr_willis'learn' about it.. dont worry about it. :)06:51
italyI only enjoying knowing about things. I don't like understanding them.06:51
Jucatoitaly: just keep in mind that sudo/kdesu will always ask for your password. period. nothing more, nothing less... unless of course you do something naughty and enable root06:51
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Dr_willis:)06:57
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digivorehow do i find out what driver my wireless usb nic is using?07:04
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italynvidia makes driver installation simple07:09
Dr_willishmmm...07:11
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Ackercowabunga07:17
Dr_willistesting out some live cd's07:19
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Dr_willisthis one for some reason hangs on this machine with the 'usb' device detection. perhaps its not liking my extra usb pci controller card07:19
Dr_willisnight all.07:21
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blekoshelloo guys07:22
blekosi have big problem07:23
blekosmy screen size (not resolution) has changed07:23
blekosas a result i have a black gap on the left and the right of my screen07:23
blekostried to changed resolution to lower one 800x600 but no luck...07:23
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sirmishi07:42
smoenux!mp307:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:42
sirmisi have problems when installing xgl and compiz on kubuntu amd 6407:43
sirmisi found this when googled around HowTo: Xgl + Compiz on AMD64 (Easy / Packages)07:43
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sirmistheresm this cind of section ... Step 5 is editing configuration files and making a script to start xgl / compiz. Here we tell the system to use Xgl / Compiz.07:44
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KvekHello and good evening07:44
sirmishow do i do that in kde07:45
Kveki need some help installing Ubuntu07:45
sirmis+can07:45
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sirmisKvek: maby i can help ... :)07:46
Kvekwell i've been tring to install Ubuntu on my laptop that has win 98 and at some point in the installation the laptop freezes07:47
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italywtf07:48
sirmisKvek: have u tried install in text mode07:48
italyI installed libxine-extracodecs07:48
italybut it says MP3 support is not available still07:49
Kvekdo you mind helping me through it sirmis?07:49
Kvekall i need to do is get my laptop07:49
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italygod damn thing was running multiple instances07:51
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sirmisKvek: just a moment .. i need to restart X07:52
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happybob123Hey, Kubuntu is compatible with Windows ME right? :)07:57
happybob123</friends paid me money to come in here and ask that>07:57
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KvekHey how do i install ubuntu in text mode?07:59
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DonovaanHello?08:00
KvekHi Donovaan08:00
DonovaanWhere do I get a list of the channels and such, comrade?08:01
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DonovaanDoes anyone know?08:02
JucatoDonovaan: which ones? all channels in freenode or all ubuntu channels in freenode?08:03
DonovaanAll channels.08:03
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labkomsolo08:04
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JucatoDonovaan: either go to Window -> Channel list or press F5 or type in /list. take note that you might experience some lag or might even be disconnected08:05
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DonovaanOkayMany hanks.08:06
DonovaanOkay*thanks08:06
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Kvekhow do i install ubuntu in text mode?08:08
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enix.08:09
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rerereneed help: i installed gnome-desktop on kubuntu i log of and can't log on gnome desktop any idea?08:24
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nyt:D08:24
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rererekde is still default but i can't get on to gnome08:24
Jucatorerere: you have to choose GNOME from the session menu in the login screen08:25
rererethere is no gnome thats the problem08:25
rererekde default and fail save thats all08:26
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Jucatorerere: probably the installation of gnome-desktop wasn't completed?08:27
rerereso do apt-get again?08:27
Jucatoyes. um... what did you install btw? gnome-desktop or ubuntu-desktop?08:28
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rereregnome Jucato08:29
Jucatoah, gnome-desktop-environment?08:29
Jucatotry apt-get installing it again, some things might have been left out08:30
rerereyes 3 new packages will be istalled that should work08:31
rerereone is gnome session08:31
tenchiHi all!08:31
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italythe fountain starts tomorrow :)08:31
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tenchiMy problem is: I have Edgy Kubuntu 6.10 installed with all updates and the latest nvidia drivers from nivida.com. When I turn on the computer, X does not start and only reset helps. Upon reset X works flawlessly with 3D. Why?08:33
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tenchiAn whatevere is this huge amount of updates in adept today?08:35
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edgyHi, This is my first time using OOo impress and I was impressed on how many times it crash ;) is this well-known or is it a problem in my kubuntu system?08:39
edgyIf I just pressed Enter to make a new bullet and them backspace to remove it it would crash Impress08:40
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krautmoin08:49
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battousaix19your OOo may be a corrupt instal08:57
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battousaix19as to date, i dont think OOo has EVER crashed on me;)08:57
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Cayenneanyone online?08:59
CayenneNeed help with my Kubuntu :D09:00
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jaaroohello there. I must be dumb or something. I've set dark background and am not able to set font color for panels (which is translucent). How is it possible?09:02
CayenneWell, anyway... When im putting in the CD in my Laptop it comes up the meny what you whant to do, after that when i try to take 1, Start and Install it's start to load after that the computer is frezzing09:02
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grotheskHello!09:09
grotheskI just saw a kde 3.5.5a release on the kubuntu servers. When will it be available via apt?09:10
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crazy_busCan anyone help me.  I wan't doing anything major on my computer.  But for some reason Amarok crashed and wouldn't load again.  So I restarted my computer.  However now my computer loads kubuntu.  But as soon as kde starts it comes up with a dialog box saying "kdeitit failed to load. please check installation".  And if you  click ok on that the screen goes black and nothing further happens09:15
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italyhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=TjxABMgHMb409:19
italysweet09:19
metresHi all, do I have to reinstall all to get from dapper to edgy ?09:20
metresor a kernel recompilation is possible ?09:20
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defryskmetres, backup and fresh install is best09:21
defrysk!upgrade | metres09:21
ubotumetres: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:21
defrysk!backup | metres09:21
ubotumetres: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi09:21
metresthanks guys :-)09:22
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Jucatohm... I can't get to tty in vmware (Kubuntu Edgy...)09:23
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cox377does anyone know any windows admin password recovering linux os's?09:41
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tibbarLeeJunFan: im only 40% updated now I just gave up :(09:46
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tibbargnomefreak:  im only 40% updated now I just gave up :(09:48
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happycow-greetings all :)10:11
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crazy_busCan anyone help me?  My computer was working fine until I restarted it, and now when KDE starts.  It says kdeinit failed to load.  And if you click ok on it, the screen goes black and nothing further happens.10:14
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happycow-so quiet.. I guess the N.A.'s are sleeping ^10:16
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happycow-But this Ubuntu (Kubuntu) distro is great. I finally managed to get sudo working (wow!), after completely screwing everything up the last three times. I've setup mounts for my NTFS drives and installed codecs for my porn10:19
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happycow-Maybe I'll even get used to using the OS ..10:19
happycow-I think maybe my worst enemy in Linux is the choices.. choices I didn't get with Windows..10:20
defrysks/enemy/friend10:20
defrysks/worst/best10:20
cox377does anyone know the apt-get command for install kb3?10:20
happycow-agreed .. it's just hard getting used to. You know :)10:21
apokryphoscox377: use adept, Kubuntu's graphical package manager10:21
defryskcox377, sudo apt-get install k3b10:21
defryskcox377, sudo apt-get install <package>10:21
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cox377defrysk: thats odd, thats the command i ran and it said it couldnt find it, just ran it again  and it worked10:22
cox377: )10:22
happycow-^^10:22
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defryskcox377, probably a typo ;)10:22
happycow-I have fat thumbs too10:22
defryskthat would make it a thumbo10:23
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happycow-:D10:23
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happycow-now.. next thing I need to install is Eclipse. Anyone have some experience with that, and know what I should install and such ? (I have added Multiverse and Universe)10:26
defrysk!info eclipse10:27
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ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB10:27
happycow-ta!10:27
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happycow-ubotu: this wouldn't but accident install the JRE also, would it ? :)10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about this wouldn't but accident install the JRE also, would it ? :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
happycow-by*10:29
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defryskhappycow-, ubutu = a bot10:29
defrysk!ubotu10:29
happycow-I noticed!! :p10:29
defrysk!info sunjava10:30
ubotuPackage sunjava does not exist in any distro I know10:30
defrysk!info jre10:30
ubotuPackage jre does not exist in any distro I know10:30
crimsun!info sun-java510:30
defrysk!java10:30
ubotuPackage sun-java5 does not exist in any distro I know10:30
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository10:30
happycow-keep going.. you're doing great!10:30
defrysklol crimsun10:30
happycow-crimsun, and if I been the 6.0 beta?10:31
happycow-need*10:31
defrysk!info sun-java5-jre10:31
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB10:31
crimsunhappycow-: you're out of luck for now10:31
crimsunhappycow-: you'll just have to use java-package10:31
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crimsunI was lazy and just untarred the whole jdk in /usr/local/10:31
happycow-:D10:31
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defryskjre6 hmmm gonna try that10:39
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happycow-keep me posted :)10:43
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defryskjava-package does not yet support it.10:43
happycow-apparently my genious instructors feel that using a Beta-package is good for teaching people how to programme. Obviously I feel it's.. hmm.. not quite thought through.10:44
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crimsundefrysk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=32284310:47
crimsunsee the last patch, which enables 1.6 beta 210:47
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defryskcrimsun, thanks10:48
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crazy_busPlease can anyone help me.  I rebooted my computer and now KDE won't load.  It comes up with an error saying kdeinit failed to load.10:53
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crazy_busAnd if you type startkde in recovery mode it comes up with this; Warning: connect() failed: no such file or directory.10:53
crazy_busError: Can't contact kdeinit10:53
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cox3777Hello all, windows has locked me out by rejecting my password so i need to get the data from the c drive, just put ubuntu live in there, it sees the drive but says it's unable to mount the drive, does anyone know why this would be?11:14
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zorglu_!ntfs11:15
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:15
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cox3777!ntfs11:18
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:18
cox3777what a morning11:18
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T3hWiz0rd!samba11:18
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:18
cox3777well, i just need to access the drive, ftp the files and then format11:18
T3hWiz0rdi am adding my computer to a smb domain11:19
cox3777i did used to have a live mephis disk that was great for it but for the life of me i dont know whats happened to it and 0 cd-rs11:19
T3hWiz0rdanything in specific i need to do? like do i need a local user created on the machine for the domain login?11:19
signalhi all, i'm new of kubuntu and i'd like to know where adept apt store the "source" of the downloaded packages..11:19
zorglu_!sources.list11:19
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:20
T3hWiz0rdand also, how can I restart the samba service on kubuntu?11:20
zorglu_signal: in /etc/apt/sources.list11:20
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signalmm i think i was not clear, when i install a package, adept download the binary and store it in somewhere in my computer, adept remove the binary after installation or do I have to remove it manually?11:21
zorglu_the binary = the .deb ?11:22
Jucatosignal: the .deb are downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archive/. I think it cleans that directory automatically after a certain amount of days11:22
signalzorglu_: yes (i think)11:22
Jucatobut you can manually clean the archive with "sudo apt-get clean"11:22
signalok thank you all11:23
zorglu_apt-get clean <- it would clean it for sure :)11:23
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zorglu_ooppsaa the time to check the doc Jucato did it :)11:23
Jucato:)11:23
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cox3777i ran the script as shown within ! ntfs11:28
cox3777under live cd, after running it wouldnt do anything when i clicked on the drives11:28
vyomanwhere can find a description of todays updates, i am fed-up applying updates without change description11:28
cox3777anyone got any ideas?11:28
zorglu_vyoman: if you find them, tell me :) i would be deeply interested too11:29
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vyomani know that the ubuntu folks have them in syn... - however i am not asking for adept fix just a pointer to a summary web page, someone must know, its out there!11:31
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zorglu_in syn = ?11:32
T3hWiz0rd!swat11:32
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ubuntu_hi ppl11:33
T3hWiz0rd*sighs*11:33
T3hWiz0rdswat wont work for me11:33
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vyomanzorgulu - is it called synaptic the ubuntu update manager11:34
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vyomannot sure how it is spelled, sory about that11:35
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zorglu_!synaptic11:35
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto11:35
zorglu_that's it :)11:35
zorglu_!tab11:36
ubotuYou can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.11:36
zorglu_this one is cool too :)11:36
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cox3777is the command to edit the sources file in ubuntu this: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?11:37
vyomanyes but as a KDE user i am not that keen, to let GNOME application creep into my desktop (no offence gnomers!) :)11:37
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zorglu_cox3777: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"11:37
cox377zorglu_: is that for ubuntu or kubuntu?11:38
zorglu_kubuntu cox37711:39
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cox377what about ubuntu, sorry i know this isnt ubuntu forums11:39
zorglu_!kdesu11:40
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo11:40
zorglu_!gksudo11:40
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"11:40
zorglu_cox377: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"11:40
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scheuricox377: ubuntu has its own channel here: #ubuntu11:42
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cox377damn this is pissing me off11:44
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cox377I'm trying to recover my winxp password thats just decided that the password i'm entering is not right,11:44
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cox377i found this linux os called "austrumi" that, on boot: "nt_pass" is supposed to load a script that allows u to edit xp psaswords11:45
cox377but it just says it cant find it on kernal or something of sorts11:45
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cox377lol.. kicked the power button with my foot, doh11:48
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pvandewyngaerdei keep getting this error in my logs11:59
pvandewyngaerdeNov 22 10:28:39 pieter kernel: [17184923.284000]  floppy0: disk absent or changed during operation11:59
pvandewyngaerdeNov 22 10:28:39 pieter kernel: [17184923.284000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 011:59
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rererewhat12:05
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rererewhat packages are includet in the kubuntu dvd anyone has a link?12:06
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cox377whats the command for finding the ip address of the local machine?12:24
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icheynecox377, I think it's ifconfig12:26
cox377icheyne: ahh yeh12:26
cox377cheers12:26
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icheynecox377, pleasure12:29
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KabalGuys, how come Xorg is eating up 25% CPU usage, even when system is idle.. (?)12:30
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avviehi12:48
icheynecox377, I forgot to tell you about apropos - it's a great way of finding commands. Checkout "man apropos".12:49
cox377icheyne: nice one12:49
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crazy_busCan anyone please help me.  For some reason amarok crashed on my.  And when I restarted to get it working again kde wouldnt load anymore.  Instead coming up with an error called kdeinit cannot load please check installation.  Also when I boot into recovery mode and type startkde the following error occurs; http://rafb.net/paste/results/1riww645.html01:00
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icheynecrazy_bus, try asking on the kde channels - sorry I can't be more help01:02
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crazy_busI have already asked on #kde.  But I still havent been able to fix my problem01:03
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hirshi01:03
hirsI have a problem with fonts in some apps, I get no spaces in kopete conversation dialogs, what I say in conversation has, though01:05
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hirsIn amarok, I get ... instead of the song name, artist or album01:05
hirsbut not always, only if the text has spaces on it, otherwise is shown right01:07
hirsI use the same font as other apps.. :(01:07
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tobias_Everybody ready for buy nothing day on saaaturday?!!! :D01:09
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tobias_Im gonna make a gigantic ubuntu banner I think, "give ubuntu, not crap!"01:09
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crazy_buswhen I try to load a kde program it comes up with this; error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error does anyone know how to reinstall or fix libkdeui.so.4?01:12
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cox377there are a few icons that i really like from thye ubuntu OS, i would like to use them with kubuntu, is it possible to download a ubuntu icon pack or something so i can use the ones i want, i;ve done a lot of googling without sucess.01:15
Jucatocox377: the orange Ubuntu Human icons are available in kde-look.org01:16
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wasp_emshello anyone know how to check the md5 of a dvd?01:16
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Jucato!md5sum | wasp_ems01:17
ubotuwasp_ems: To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum01:17
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cox377Jucato: nice one, cheers01:28
raghi *, how to add or modify entries for katapult?01:30
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tibbar!nvidia01:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
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ustaadminhey01:45
ustaadmini got trouble with kdm and login.access (/etc/security/access.conf) and kdm, kdm ignores the group setting i put in there and allows all users to login01:46
ustaadminhow can i solve this?01:46
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Bubba_Gumpwhat does shade do?01:47
wasp_emsJucato, mdsum does not seem to exist on my system01:47
JucatoBubba_Gump: rolls up the window so that you will only see the title bar01:47
Bubba_Gumpheh, i thought it did :D01:48
Bubba_Gumpgood for small windows i guess01:48
Jucatogood for any window that's not maximized :)01:48
Jucatowasp_ems: something like "md5sum image_file.iso"01:49
Jucatoit's installed by default on any ubuntu system01:49
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ustaadmini guess access.conf is just for terminal/console, where can i set this for kdm?01:49
wasp_emsok found it thanx01:49
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wasp_emsJucato, i run it but nothing is happenig01:52
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wasp_emsJucato, ok worked01:53
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BluesKajHowdy all ! :)02:04
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mneisenBluesKaj: hi02:08
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BluesKajhi mneisen, what's up today ?02:09
mneisenI am looking for a recent backport of subversion. Any guess?02:09
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BluesKajoooh,,sorry subversion?02:11
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BluesKajnot familiar with that02:11
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mneisensubversion is a modern replacement for cvs - revision control for source code and the like.02:13
[GuS] bonjour...02:13
mneisenwelcome02:13
twosouls82hello :)02:14
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BluesKajhi [GuS] 02:16
BluesKajhi twosouls8202:17
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[GuS] Hi BluesKaj  :)02:17
twosouls82BluesKaj: you social you :)02:17
BluesKajhehe02:19
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Bubba_Gump:)02:20
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BluesKajmy google earth is having refresh probs ...the earth part of the GUI keeps losing it's pic and refreshing 3-4 times /sec ...it will track ti  destination but the constant flipping off and on is very annoying ...any ideas ?02:29
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twosouls82BluesKaj: OpenGL works as assumed in other apps?02:30
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BluesKajyes, twosouls82...no other probs , just google earth02:31
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twosouls82BluesKaj: have you done anyting that might have caused this, since the last successfull run (if any)?02:32
ubuntu__what means the GRUB error 17?02:32
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BluesKajyeah, twosouls82, i upgraded to Edgy :) ...earth worked ok in dapper02:33
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tibbarLeeJunFan: you still there?02:34
twosouls82BluesKaj: after the upgreade mine worked fine, but I saw google earth passing bt from 310vn and so I have a edgy version of it installed.. can hardly be another binary version though02:34
tibbar!wine02:34
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.02:34
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twosouls82BluesKaj: any stdout when you run it?02:34
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BluesKajstdout ?02:35
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twosouls82ubuntu__: I think this means the drive is invisible to GRUB (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802)02:36
twosouls82BluesKaj: console output02:36
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saturn_    -?02:37
BluesKajI don't launch it from the console02:37
BluesKaj!ru02:37
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:37
twosouls82saturn_: english please :)02:37
twosouls82BluesKaj: so you know Russia? :{02:37
twosouls82:P02:37
twosouls82I meant02:37
albertwhat have i do for know what's my gnome version?02:38
twosouls82BluesKaj: launch it from the console02:38
BluesKajNOPE, just recognize the alphabet :)02:38
twosouls82see if it turn up anything :)02:38
albertanybody can tell me how i do for know muy version of gnome?02:38
ubuntu__!ru | saturn_02:38
ubotusaturn_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:38
saturn_I' m living there. Please don't speek so quick I'm translating.02:39
BluesKajwhat's the run command for consol?02:39
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twosouls82saturn_: still, rules are rules.. only English in here02:39
albertBluesKaj: yes02:39
twosouls82or pm :)02:39
saturn_bye02:40
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BluesKajtwosouls82, I never run stuff from the console ... i don't know what command to use02:40
mackayalguem que fale portugues por aqui ?02:40
BluesKajI use the console for installing and updating mostly02:41
BluesKaj!pt02:41
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.02:41
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twosouls82BluesKaj: heh.. I didn't think that was possible on Linux :) Alt+F2 -> konsole <enter> -> google-earth <enter>02:41
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twosouls82watch the output of the console, BluesKaj, usefull for troubleshouting02:42
BluesKajwhat's the command to launch it in the console ... twosouls82...I know how to open and use console ..I just don't know what the launch or run command is !02:43
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visik7why mdnsd isn't present in edgy while it is on dapper ?02:44
twosouls82BluesKaj: Alt+F2 (opens up 'run command' -> type 'konsole' press <enter> (which launches Konsole) -> type 'google-earth' followed by <enter>02:44
BluesKajwhat's the command to launch it in the console ... twosouls82...I know how to open and use console ..I just don't know what the launch or run command is !02:44
BluesKajREAD!02:45
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twosouls82like I said twice :).. type 'google-earth' followed by <enter>02:45
eitch0000anyone use kpowersave?02:45
eitch0000I've got a little problem02:45
BluesKajit doesn't work twosouls8202:45
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eitch0000I installed it, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?02:46
BluesKajgoogle-earth: command not found02:46
twosouls82BluesKaj: googleearth ?02:46
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twosouls82I have both here :)02:47
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BluesKajgoogleearth: command not found02:47
SF1hi i am on the live cd atm just wondering how is a good way to partiosn my 250gb i just got02:48
SF1BluesKaj: try ./googleearth02:48
twosouls82BluesKaj: I wonder how that is possible; try 'dpkg -L google-earth'02:49
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twosouls82BluesKaj: what does that return? no pasting in here please :)02:50
twosouls82unless it is an short notice02:50
BluesKaj./googleearth: No such file or directory\02:51
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gnomefreakBluesKaj: did you install it from the .deb?02:52
SF1BluesKaj: how did you install google earth02:52
twosouls82BluesKaj: sudo aptitude search google | grep ^i02:53
gnomefreakBluesKaj: if not if you giv eme a few minutes ill post the .deb02:53
twosouls82that tells us how it was installed02:53
twosouls82gnomefreak: I'd rather give him/her the addition for his/her sources.list :)02:54
gnomefreaktwosouls82: its not as safe that way since its a 3rd party repo but feel free. i have alot fo debs i have to get around to posting02:55
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tibbargnomefreak: I updated to 30%, then I gave up and formated installed edgy from cd and bought me a 7600gt, I like nvida alot more than ati02:56
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twosouls82BluesKaj: for easyness, just use 'ls /usr/bin/google*' to be able too tell the name of the command02:56
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SF1gnomefreak: what is a good way of partisoning my hdd? it 250gb i just got it, (went to the shop with tibbar)02:57
twosouls82and whether it exists or not02:57
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gnomefreakSF1: good way? is anything on it already and what?02:57
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SF1gnomefreak: nothing but if i want to reinstall kubuntu then i don't want to loose my files without backing up02:58
SF1gnomefreak: 200gb for /home,,,, i don't know how much i should give for what and how to format/mount it like that02:59
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gnomefreakSF1: the default way that kubuntu formats it is fine unless you are going to put windows on it than install windows first and use parted (the installer) to install kubuntu and i have ubuntu on a 40 gig and have plenty of space03:01
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danny500hey, how do I change the permissions on certaint folders in ubuntu that are under the root protection? I want to erase firefox 1.5 files and peplace them with firefox 2 files.03:02
MidMarksomeone has Edgy packages for digikam 0.9rc1?03:02
SF1gnomefreak: can i like give root 40gb and swap 3gb and home the rest?03:02
gnomefreakSF1: yes if you like03:02
danny500gnomefreak: yes03:02
gnomefreakdanny500: chmod will change file permissions03:03
danny500weres that?03:03
SF1gnomefreak: i'll try something like that...03:03
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gnomefreakdanny500: in terminal type man chmod    or chmod --help whatever one is easier for you to understand03:03
mneisenI am looking for a recent backport of subversion. Any guess?03:04
danny500ok thanx03:05
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Lord_Altihi all03:06
chg87hi Alti03:06
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Lord_AltiHola, como estas? :D03:10
BluesKajmneisen, https://launchpad.net/products/edgy-backports/+bug/7105803:11
BluesKaj!es03:11
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:11
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Lord_Altino hablo espaniol ^^03:11
SF1gnomefreak: does swap have to be a primairy patision?03:12
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BluesKajok, then ...speak english ...I'm fine , how are you ? :)03:12
Lord_Altihehe fine 203:12
cox377my cd-rw seems to be playing silly buggers, is there a command to rest such a thing?03:12
Lord_Altibtw learning spanish atm03:12
Lord_Altiand just installed kubuntu03:12
Lord_Altilooks nice03:12
mneisenBluesKaj: thanks03:12
BluesKajsilly buggers?03:12
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cox377BluesKaj: lol yeh03:13
gnomefreaki think so but not sure03:13
gnomefreakSF1: ^^^03:14
SF1ok03:14
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BluesKajtwosouls82, i hate to admit it, but i used automatix to install google earth...I've since uninstalled both03:14
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woodefechi03:15
twosouls82BluesKaj: :) so you're ready to install the new one, if I got that right?03:15
twosouls82hih woodefec :)03:15
BluesKajlooking for a stable version of earth but from the search results i've found so far don't look good03:15
BluesKajyes twosouls82, I am03:15
woodefecdoes the kubuntu installer give me an option to leave my old /home part. (fromm suse) untouched and make it my new home partition?03:16
BluesKajare there any deb pkgsof google earth out there03:16
BluesKaj?03:16
Lord_Altias far is a saw nope03:16
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octanhey all.. tell me if i have gotten this right.. 192.168.0.0/24 is like 192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.0.255 and 192.168.0.0/8 is like 192.168.0.0 -> 192.255.255.255 ?03:16
woodefecso i would have everything set from start03:16
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Lord_Altii think so03:17
ubuntu__!ip03:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:17
woodefeci need to migrate from the M$ contaminated system03:17
Lord_Altinever saw any option to do so03:17
SF1woodefec, i am in the livecd atm i dont think you have to03:17
Lord_Altihave 2 restart03:17
woodefecSF1 : i dont have to what?03:17
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SF1woodefec, not sure just when in live cd have not tried03:17
twosouls82BluesKaj: pm ;)03:18
woodefecSF1 : i want to install it on hdd03:18
woodefecand leave my old /home/foo-user03:18
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woodefecdir03:18
woodefecwith all me data & settings!03:18
SF1woodefec, i want to do that too03:18
woodefecand?03:18
crubeIs there is there any place where I could find more of icon sets, styles, decorations and all of that stuff?03:18
woodefecno answers?03:18
woodefeclets ask on #ubuntu03:19
SF1woodefec, k03:19
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rhodrikde-look.org03:19
gnomefreakcrube: kde-look.org03:19
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gnomefreak!theme03:20
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy03:20
murchadhBluesKaj: 4.0.1693 beta Google Earth is running for me on 6.06 and 6.10. Can't remember where I got it though! (Just joined the channel, so I've just seen your most recent posts)03:20
crubegnomefreak: thanks :P03:20
icheynewoodefec, why don't you just backup your home partition and copy it over to the new install?03:21
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altiback in action :D03:21
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murchadhwoodefec: I'v re-installed Kubuntu and just created a user with the same name as my existing user, and hey presto, new install old settings. e-mails, etc. all intact. Backup all data and go for it!03:21
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woodefecmurchadh : ok03:22
woodefecgoodbye suse!03:23
woodefec;P03:23
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rhodrihi, i'm having problem with xgl when watching videos and dpms is causing the screen to blank and i can't turn it off.  does anyone know a fix/workaround?  or maybe is there any way i can "fake" some mouse or keyboard events to stop this happening?  thanks.03:24
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pinchartlhi03:25
Bubba_Gumprhodri: have you played the videos in kaffeine? i think that has a built in keyboard faker03:26
woodefecthx, cu03:26
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pinchartlis there a KUbuntu server edition, like there is a Ubuntu server edition ?03:26
murchadhwoodefec: Does SuSE use dpkg? If so do a sudo dpkg -l >> ~/applist, this will create a list of installed apps. Handy when you're trying to remember all the little apps you had installed. Will lessen the chances of X start-up errors when looking for software referenced in your existing home directory.03:26
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Chousukepinchartl: I think they're the same thing03:27
rhodriBubba_Gump: yes i use kaffiene, do i need to turn the option on?  i'll look into it now, thanks03:27
Chousukepinchartl: as the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is mostly in the GUI and desktop features.03:27
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: how do i set the rest of my space to /home and how do i make extended patition swap?03:27
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cox377whats the driver support like for Dial up PCI modems?03:28
visik7how can I get zeroconf:/ discover other peers ? avahi-daemon got it but zeroconf:/ doesn't03:29
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gnomefreakScarFreewill: use qtparted or parted ot gparted ;)03:30
pinchartlChousuke: I'd like to be able to remotely log on the server (using vnc for instance), and I prefer KDE over Gnome. can I install KDE in Ubuntu ? is KDE well supported in Ubuntu, or is it a second class citizen ? Is it just a matter of configuring apt to get the KDE packages in the KUbuntu repositories ?03:30
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kamil_SJOIN03:30
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Chousukepinchartl: The repositories are the same as far as I know. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:30
ScarFreewillgnomefreak: can i install it in the livecd03:30
Chousukepinchartl: or if you don't want it all, just install kde packages manually03:31
pinchartlChousuke: so there's basically no difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, except the install CDs ?03:31
Chousukeyeah, and default configuration (KDE vs. Gnome)03:31
gnomefreaklive cd i think has parted already but yes you should beable to. i dont use livecd often i only use it to test things03:31
pinchartlChousuke: thanks a lot for your help03:31
ChousukeYou're welcome.03:32
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ScarFreewillgnomefreak: nwm i dont03:34
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ScarFreewillgnomefreak: have to its already installed on livecd...03:34
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ScarFreewillgnomefreak: this qtparted looks esactly the same as the installer's program the prob is i don't know how to mount the stuff correctly or do i have to do that after it installed?03:37
gnomefreakScarFreewill: not sure if you can mount them on livecd i dont see why not though03:38
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ScarFreewillgnomefreak: not like mount to use them mount so that kubutu uses the 200gb for home and the 25gb for root and use the 1gb swap alltought i don't think swap needs to bemounted...03:40
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ScarFreewill!format03:45
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks03:45
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ScarFreewill!bot i don't use gnome this is #kbuntu03:45
ScarFreewillhttp://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2gh6.png can any one help me03:48
JucatoScarFreewill: that would be System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks & Filesystems in Kubuntu03:48
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ScarFreewillJucato, can you help me?03:50
Jucatonot really. I'm not good with partitioning either... I was just pointing out the equivalent Kubuntu app for mounting graphically03:50
icheynemurchadh, nice tip - I've saved it!03:50
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ScarFreewillJucato, yeah i knew that i was just a bit fustrated...03:51
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ScarFreewillJucato, do you mind looking at the pic....03:51
Jucatook03:51
JucatoScarFreewill: what are you trying to do? (came in late)03:53
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ScarFreewillJucato, you saw how i partitioned my hdd.. now i want /home to be 200gb / to be 23gb and swap looks fine..03:54
Jucatohm.. you don't have a / partition03:54
ScarFreewillJucato: root03:54
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Jucato /root is not the same as /03:55
SillyZgmorning03:55
Jucato /root is the root user's home directory, equivalent to /home/user for normal users03:55
Jucato / is the root (parent) directory03:55
ScarFreewillJucato: i know but i call / the root dir03:55
SillyZIm preparing to setup a new machine Dell E-1705 with KUbuntu, would someone have some time to point out anything I may need to know in advance on setting up on this particular machine?03:55
ScarFreewillJucato: yeah...03:55
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Jucatoso that's just a label?03:56
Jucatoanyway, what problems are you having?03:56
ScarFreewillJucato: do i set where its gona get mounted where i set the label?03:56
Jucatoum.. afaik, no03:56
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Jucatomount points are created during installation or through fstab. QtParted knows nothing about mount points afaik03:57
SillyZcan always do a chroot /bin/bash /path/to/some/dir and that will become the new 'root' dir just to confuse things further03:57
SillyZthe chroot was common practice on setting up and compiling gentoo03:57
TheGateKeeperScarFreewill: next form in the wizard will be where you tell it to mount the various partitions03:57
ScarFreewillTheGateKeeper: oms thanks allot for telling me that!!!03:58
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ScarFreewillTheGateKeeper: oms rofl1!!!1!1!!103:58
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ScarFreewilli can't belive how lame that was i waited about 2 hours just to know that if i clicked next then i go on... anyway cya04:00
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davidmhello, I'm running edgy 6.10 and I made the mistake of apt-get install k3d. The package seems broken and I can't get it installed or removed even using dpkg --purge --force-all k3d. All suggestions appreciated04:01
ubuntu_test04:01
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h3sp4wnubuntu_: failed04:03
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bthibaultanybody have the sources.list line for the non-free repository04:04
hastesaver!repository04:04
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:04
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TheGateKeeperbthibault: plf ?04:04
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bthibaulthastesaver: thanks04:05
bthibaultTheGateKeeper: sorry, plf?04:06
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TheGateKeeperbthibault: ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories04:07
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bthibaultTheGateKeeper: thanks , i was just looking for the flash plugin non free, not sure if its in plf or not04:08
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Jucato!flashplugin-nonfree04:09
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)04:09
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danny500Jucato04:09
Jucatodanny500! :)04:09
danny500I got a question for you04:09
TheGateKeeper!flash904:09
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html04:09
TheGateKeeperbthibault: also ^^^04:09
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bthibaultthanks04:10
h3sp4wnor use gnash (build from svn) seems to work fine for the limited amount of flash sites I go to04:10
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danny500can I make Open Office Spread Sheet call phone numbers within a certaint column?04:10
Jucatobthibault: take note, that Flash 9 is still beta, and Seveas' Flash 9 version is still beta 1 (latest is beta 2)04:10
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danny500like for call marketing purposes?04:10
Jucatodanny500: not that I'm aware of04:10
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danny500oh ok04:10
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danny500do you know of a Program that I can put a bunch of numbers into and have it call them one by one and give them an autoamted message?04:11
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Jucatohmm... nope. I'm not very familiary with telephony stuff04:11
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danny500oh, is any one reading this know anything about this stuff?04:12
h3sp4wnIf I did know how do that I wouldn't tell you (telemarketting is evil)04:12
danny500how is it evil?04:12
Jucatolike spam04:12
h3sp4wnYep exactly like spam but more intrusive04:12
danny500how else are companies going to get a hold of you?04:13
h3sp4wnIf I want to get hold of a company I will contact them04:13
danny500write you?04:13
danny500ok well I'm going some were else for help, cya04:13
JucatoO.o04:14
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Jucatosensitive guy :)04:14
TheGateKeeperdanny500: if you telemarket me, you find yourself on my blacklist of companies I will NOT do buisness with04:14
TheGateKeeperdamn too late04:14
Jucatohehe04:14
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h3sp4wnHe would be better off on somewhere where they develop a spam mailing program - trivial to change one to make it dial a modem04:15
Jucatowell, like it or not, telemarketing puts food on someone's table... :)04:15
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h3sp4wnAutomated calling devices like he wants to make are illegal (in England)04:15
TheGateKeepernot if they phone me hehe04:15
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Jucatohe's not from England :)04:15
h3sp4wnWhere is he from ?04:16
Jucatosomewhere in US. forgot :)04:16
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h3sp4wnAre phone autodialers legal in the US ?04:16
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dusterlhow do i control which init script will be executed on startup?04:17
h3sp4wndusterl: update-rc.d04:17
dusterlthanks04:18
h3sp4wndusterl: rcconf or sysv-rc-conf (are other alternatives)04:18
h3sp4wndusterl: If you want to see them all at once sysv-rc-conf is as good as any but for making one small change update-rc.d is as easy as anything04:19
davidmh3sp4wn Yes autodialers are legal if you identify yourself at the beginning of the message and provide a contact number that you can call to be removed.04:19
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davidmh3sp4wn in the US that is04:19
billytwowillyhi guys, is the new init stuff supposed to make booting take way longer?04:20
murchadhJucato: Crack, arms manufacture and child prostitution all put food on someones table! Doesn't mean they're not evil! !->04:21
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Jucatomurchadh: yes, but compared to the ones you mentioned, it's not *that* evil04:21
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Jucatoinconvenient and annoying? yes. Inherently evil? I doubt it. anyway, this is -offtopic...04:22
murchadhJucato: hehe!04:23
billytwowillyok, what's the name of the new init system in edgy so I can look for ways to fix the boot time?04:23
Jucatoupstart04:23
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Jucato!upstart | billytwowilly04:23
ubotubillytwowilly: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/04:23
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ubuntu!pl04:28
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl04:28
ubuntu!sp04:28
ubotusp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB04:28
ubuntu!es04:29
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:29
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_nolteHi, I'm new, is there any KDE tool to configure and use pppoe like kppp ?04:31
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Jucato_nolte: nothing graphical, at least not installed by default. so you have to type "sudo pppoeconf" in Konsole04:31
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_nolteJucato: i found pppoeconf and then did pon dsl-provider. perhaps i can find something in universe repos ?04:33
Jucato!knet | _nolte04:34
ubotuknet: The Knet is a frontend to pppd.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6beta1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1017 kB, installed size 1584 kB04:34
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_nolteJucato: thanks, I'll try it.04:34
Jucato_nolte: that's the only one I know04:35
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casev01hi04:39
casev01what i need to install beagle in kubuntu?04:40
_nolteJucato: just installed knet.04:40
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TheGateKeeperJucato: has edgy settled down now?04:43
JucatoTheGateKeeper: it has always been "stable". as long as you don't upgrade from Dapper :)04:43
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ZmAYanybody here for help?04:44
TheGateKeeper!ask04:44
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:44
tibbarTheGateKeeper: If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?04:44
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ZmAYkubuntu freezes during installation04:44
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murchadhJucato: I'll second that. The upgrade is possible, but most people don't take the time to do it by the book. So the fresh install is the recomended option!04:45
tibbarIf I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?04:45
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TheGateKeepermurchadh: 'by the book' you mean fdoving's wiki howto article?04:46
ZmAYany ideas what could be wrong?04:46
tibbargnomefreak:  If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?04:47
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TheGateKeeperZmAY: well have you tried the cd self test to make sure that it is ok?04:47
ZmAYyes, it's original, i ordered it from their page04:48
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TheGateKeeperZmAY: are you trying to put it on a hdd with a ntfs partitions taking the total hdd?04:48
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ubuntuZmY:  maybe the CD is corrupt (chek the md5 sum)04:48
TheGateKeeperZmAY: is your hdd ok?04:48
ZmAYnot the total04:48
ZmAYyep04:48
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TheGateKeepereven if it's 'an original' still needs checking04:50
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ZmAYit is checked04:50
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ZmAYi check the cd, and then i click on install kubuntu.. the progress bar shows but then nothing happens04:52
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ZmAYall the time 0%04:52
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TheGateKeeper!fstab04:57
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions04:57
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cccis that new suse k-menu (kickoff?) released and available?05:02
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twosouls82BluesKaj: fixed it?05:03
BluesKajnope05:03
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twosouls82BluesKaj: have you got the lastest ati driver installed?05:04
BluesKajactaully I'm in windoes now ...unable to access kubuntu after entering those commands on that page i showed you05:04
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BluesKajnot yor commands twosouls82  ...the ones on that URL I posted in the PM05:06
twosouls82BluesKaj: I know, I found that page you linked to in my history05:07
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BluesKajI get a prompt like this : (initramfs) ...I tried to startx , but not found ..."target file doesn't have /sbin/init"05:07
twosouls82BluesKaj: do you have a console messenger installed? so one could help you out without a running x?05:07
Jucatoirssi is installed by default on Kubuntu05:08
BluesKaji tried to get into irssi but 'not found"05:08
JucatoO.o05:08
twosouls82;) Jacuto :)05:08
twosouls82Jucato: sorry, for the miss-spelling05:09
Jucatoheh05:09
ZmAYTheGateKepper: i misunderstood you before, i have 3 partitions, on all 3 there is NTFS.. "[16:48]  <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: are you trying to put it on a hdd with a ntfs partitions taking the total hdd?"05:09
twosouls82BluesKaj: you could check to see if irssi is installed and if not install it using aptitude05:09
twosouls82like you did beofre05:10
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BluesKajtwosouls82, this is the prompt i get after trying to boot into kubuntu ..  (initramfs)05:10
BluesKaj"target file doesn't have /sbin/init"05:11
twosouls82hmmzz.. lemme confirm my guess by Googling, BluesKaj05:11
BluesKajok twosouls8205:11
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ubuntu_! bot05:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:13
murchadhmount05:13
twosouls82BluesKaj: what does 'aptitude search upstart | grep ^i' tell?05:13
twosouls82not possible in that promt :\05:14
twosouls82prompt*05:14
BluesKajtwosouls82, i have no access to apt05:14
twosouls82no I got that when I released enter :\05:14
twosouls82my bad05:14
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BluesKajI'm in windows05:15
twosouls82BluesKaj: you are missing the upstart package which has /sbin/init in it05:15
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twosouls82I guess you might be missing more too05:15
twosouls82how could that be caused, BluesKaj?05:15
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BluesKajfrom the commands on that page URL that i posted earlier , the one with the frglx update etc05:16
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BluesKajtwosouls82,  from the commands on that page URL that i posted earlier , the one with the frglx update etc05:17
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twosouls82BluesKaj: while the dependicies where resolved to install xorg-driver-fglrx, any packages deinstalled?05:17
BluesKajit's my fault , twosouls82  ...i thought it would work05:17
BluesKajdunno twosouls82 , i rebooted05:18
BluesKajand got that prompt05:18
twosouls82BluesKaj: shit can happen :) would be nice if we solved this, which is possible if you ask me05:18
BluesKajok , twosouls82 ..let's try05:18
twosouls82lemme Google some more first05:19
twosouls82;)05:19
ubuntu_! google05:19
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux05:19
twosouls82:D05:19
twosouls82aye ubuntu_^505:19
BluesKajok NP twosouls82 ... I have lots of time :)05:19
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twosouls82BluesKaj: this is not going to be easy, but I am getting somewhere. still lots of reading :P05:21
twosouls82BluesKaj: btw, what happens when you boot in save mode?05:22
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BluesKajsame thing twosouls8205:23
ubuntucan someone please help me get back into my linux box....05:23
brinkwow kUbuntu is so wicked easy install , I have tried suse 10,1 7 days fusking around, fed zod 6 4 days fusking around and KUbuntu works straight from the install ,,, Very impressed to the TEAM, Thank You05:23
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mattjunxis anyone here testing feisty? nobody's talking in #ubuntu+105:24
ubuntueverytime I try to login.....i put in my password and it looks like it is going then back to the login prompt i go05:24
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twosouls82BluesKaj: you can use the live cd to mount the file system, chroot to it, and recreate the initrd and reinstall the kernel.. but a tut for it would be nice05:24
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mattjunxif you're in a LiveCD, is it possible to chroot to your system on your harddrive to update packages?05:25
ubuntuim using the live cd now05:25
twosouls82I assume, something that logical, is possible :)05:25
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h3sp4wnmattjunx: mount --bind /proc and /dev and you will be fine05:25
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twosouls82still looking for a confirmation on Google though05:25
mattjunxk05:25
mattjunxgotta burn a livecd then so I can fix feisty :P05:26
BluesKajtut?05:26
twosouls82orial05:26
twosouls82:P05:26
ubuntucan some one help me log back into my system?05:26
mattjunxubuntu: have you tried logging in via the console?05:27
mattjunxctrl+alt+f105:27
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mattjunxif you can't log in via there, then you have a major problem05:27
mattjunxif you can log in via there, you probably have some corrupted software05:27
ubuntugive me some steps?...also after i log into the system what do i need to do?05:27
mattjunxalright05:28
mattjunxwhen you get to the log in screen, press ctrl+alt+f105:28
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mattjunxyou'll have a textual log in prompt05:28
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mattjunxenter your username and your password05:28
mattjunx(passwords don't show up as stars when you log in that way, so just type it in and hit enter anyways)05:28
ubuntuok05:28
twosouls82BluesKaj:05:28
ubuntuthen what?05:29
twosouls82lets try it05:29
mattjunxif you log in successfully (you'll get a username@hostname:~$ prompt05:29
twosouls82BluesKaj: pm?05:29
ubunturight05:29
DaSkreechubuntu: You logged out?05:29
ubuntuyes05:29
ubuntui am on the live cd now05:29
mattjunxif that doesn't work, you've got some issues that might take a bit of work to fix05:29
DaSkreechubuntu: try pressing alt+ctrl=backspace05:29
DaSkreech+ backspace05:29
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ubuntui was going to reinstall but it told me i had no root defined which i did05:30
DaSkreechThere is no password on the CD as far as I know ?05:30
mattjunxDaSkreech: there isn't a password for the ubuntu user05:31
mattjunxroot is probably randomly generated05:31
mattjunxI'll check since I'm gonna be booting in a livecd on my other computer in a couple minutes anyhow05:31
DaSkreechIt's not it's disabled05:31
mattjunxhow do you disable root?05:32
mattjunxlike, nologin sort of thing?05:32
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mattjunxbecause root still owns a lot of processes in a livecd...05:32
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ubunturafter i restart and login to the console what do i need to do?05:33
mattjunxokay, I've got a question: what files do I need to copy from a LiveCD to get the ipw2200 firmware?05:33
mattjunxubuntu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:33
ubuntuand that will fix my system?05:33
mattjunxmaybe05:34
mattjunxif you can't log in, I know a way that might work05:34
ubuntuok?05:34
ubuntui am already using 6.10?05:34
mattjunxthat updates the programs05:35
ubunturight i now05:35
mattjunxwell, I always use dist-upgrade just in case, but you could use upgrade05:35
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ubuntuit started this morning saying my disk was full......but i am along way from being full05:35
ubuntuwhen i rebooted it wouldnt let me in05:36
mattjunxif you still can't log in, reboot, hit escape when you see the "grub loading stage2" thing, and boot into the topmost "recovery mode" option05:36
mattjunxwhen you get the "root@hostname:~#" prompt, run "passwd yourusername"05:37
sonja-nyCan he not make a second user/password and set the string to (0) for the password ONE ?05:37
mattjunxand you can change your password from there; it might be corrupted, who knows05:37
mattjunxsonja-ny: I have no idea :/05:37
mattjunxwell, I'll be back soonish05:37
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ubuntuif i could add another user....i could send all my stuff over to it05:37
mattjunxit'd probably be easier to fix your current profile05:38
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sonja-nysorry mattjunx , my install is soo good I just sticking around to help out, I got no problems to fix poor poor me05:38
ubuntuwhats the commands to add a user?05:38
mattjunxadduser05:38
sonja-nyadduser05:38
sonja-nyoops05:38
h3sp4wnubuntu: you probably want to edit adduser.conf first05:38
mattjunxyou'll want to add yourself to a bunch of groups, though05:38
mattjunxadduser username groupname05:39
Dr_willishmm.. even if the disk was full.. it still should of reserved like 5% for emergancyes..  odd.05:39
h3sp4wnubuntu: saves having to type in all the groups manually05:39
DaSkreechubuntu: What are you trying to do?05:39
mattjunxh3sp4wn: now you tell me :P05:39
ubuntumy system will not let me in05:39
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DaSkreechubuntu: Since when?05:39
mattjunxh3sp4wn: uh, where do you set the default groups in adduser.conf?05:40
ubuntuevery time i login in it goes straight back to the login prompt05:40
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ZmAYdoes anyone know solution for this problem: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6474.005:40
ubuntulittle while ago05:40
DaSkreechubuntu: You logged in from console?05:40
sonja-nyand ubuntu had a disk FULL05:40
ubuntunot yet i am when i reboot?05:40
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syntaxxim having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?05:40
DaSkreechI mean you tried to login from the console and it logs in but logs you back out?05:40
mattjunxZmAY: try running memtest86, you might have some bad RAM (that's happened to me before)05:41
DaSkreechDink: Hey dink05:41
DaSkreechDink: I was being an idiot :)05:41
ubuntuno i havent logged in from the console yet05:41
ZmAYok..05:41
mattjunxdoes anyone here know uniq?05:41
ubuntuwhat group should i be in?05:42
ubuntuwhen i add the groupname?05:42
mattjunxadm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse05:42
DaSkreechubuntu: Can You mount the hard drive when in the CD?05:42
mattjunxand your username as another group (your primary group)05:42
sonja-nyZmAY: you have the same settings as me I also have the amd 320005:42
ZmAYram is good05:42
ubuntuhow would i do that?05:42
ZmAYdont know what to do05:42
mattjunxZmAY: have you tested it overnight?05:43
DaSkreechubuntu: mkdir drive05:43
sonja-nyZmay , did you ever check the first disk you downloaded to C if it was correct05:43
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DaSkreechsudo mount /dev/hda1 drive05:43
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DaSkreechassuming that your Kubuntu is on hda105:43
h3sp4wnmattjunx: EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio src video lp users uml-run"05:43
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h3sp4wnmattjunx: --add_extra_groups to adduser (or set ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=1) then you don't need to05:44
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ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 drive05:44
ubuntumount: mount point drive does not exist05:44
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda2 drive05:44
ubuntumount: mount point drive does not exist05:44
ubuntuubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive05:44
ubuntumount: mount point drive does not exist05:44
ZmAYmy friend has this problem, my kubuntu works.. he's running winXP, and trying to install kubuntu on 1 partition, but after he click kubuntu-install, progress bar shows but stops at 0%05:44
mattjunxadduser --add_extra_groups ?05:44
Hawkwind!paste | ubuntu05:44
ubotuubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:44
mattjunxHawkwind: wrong syntax apparently05:45
mattjunx!help > Hawkwind05:45
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ubuntuwell i didnt think it was that much05:45
mattjunxI think05:45
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Hawkwindmattjunx: Excuse me ?05:45
ubuntuor i would have used it05:45
mattjunxubuntu: more than one line and it pisses people off05:45
DaSkreechubuntu: you are getting a full drive error?05:45
ubuntusorry just ill05:45
Hawkwindubuntu: 2+ lines is too much05:45
mattjunxHawkwind: we all got the message05:45
ubuntuok05:45
DaSkreech ubuntu: You missed teh mkdir drive command05:45
Hawkwindmattjunx: It was meant that way, it was addressed to ubuntu though if you look closely05:45
mattjunxoh?05:45
Hawkwindubotu )-> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:46
mattjunxI thought you could use the > thing to redirect output05:46
HawkwindLike that05:46
h3sp4wnNo reason to spam the channel with it though05:46
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mattjunxit'd be nice if it /msg'd someone instead05:46
DaSkreechHey tackat05:46
h3sp4wnmattjunx: agreed05:46
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Hawkwindmattjunx: It can, !paste > ubuntu would have done that05:46
Hawkwindmattjunx: I did it in here for a reason, a very obvious reason05:46
mattjunxalright, I'll be back soon, does anyone know what files I need to copy to get the ipw2200 firmware?05:46
tackatHi DaSkreech05:47
mattjunxHawkwind: oh, I get it, lawlzors05:47
ubuntuit let me mount it05:47
DaSkreechWhats ipw2200 ?05:47
ZmAYsonya-ny: any other suggestions?05:47
DaSkreechnikkiana: Morning again :)05:47
ubuntudrive 3 that is where my ext partition is05:47
PaulCarpenterhey guys, does anyone here know about the fingerprint things that come with ibm laptops?05:47
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DaSkreechubuntu: Ok when you ls on drive do you see the folders you expect?05:48
sonja-nyZmay, I am tyracing back all my steps on the install, I know mine hung for a while on 0% then it kinda jumped fast up .. I left it for n hour and went shoping for shoes, when i got back it was done, mine also Did hang BUT installed flawless05:48
ZmAYin this case doesent move from 0%, it left it for 6h and nothing changed, still 0%05:48
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sonja-nyZmay, sorry in this case I am also stuck, I normally use a live CD like  slax kill bill , for testing out pcs , before i use a HDD installer05:49
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sonja-nyZmay did U use the 86 Kubuntu ?05:50
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ZmAYyes05:50
syntaxxim having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?05:50
sonja-nyits the same specs as this pcs which is running just wicked, although with other linux flavours, They did tell me that my 400 Dram was to small , this one didnt05:51
Sharketorhello05:51
DaSkreechsonja-ny: Hi05:52
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sonja-nyDaSkreech: Hi Sir, just having a blast Kubuntu , I am going to marry it05:52
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DaSkreechHey! I asked first!!05:53
sonja-nywell then ,, YEs I do, but i got an Iron clad PRE nup ok ?05:53
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DaSkreechHi Quinn_Storm05:55
Quinn_Stormhi05:56
DaSkreechsonja-ny: Man I was going for platinum but if you are ok with Iron05:56
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mjunxyeah, well, now I don't know what to do...05:57
sonja-nyDaSkreech: iron is ok for me , i just dont want you marrying me for my money and my HOG's or my dodge trucks lol05:57
DaSkreechOh No worries about that :)05:58
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sonja-nyDaSkreech: my prenup has s3x four times a day in it, can you live with that ?????05:58
cdcHi05:58
DaSkreechSure as long as they are all within 30 minutes of each other :)05:59
cdcAre there any problem with dhclient and ipw3945??05:59
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cdcThe wireless card seem to work properly when I set static IP05:59
cdcBut it cannot get IP from DHCP server06:00
DaSkreechMan kubuntu is felling ignored during that :)06:00
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sonja-nycdc is this the only pc on the router ?06:00
cdcno06:00
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sonja-nycrube: I work from my home office , I got loads of time ...........................06:01
cdcOps06:01
cdctime to go06:01
cdcI'll try it tomorrow06:01
cdcbye06:01
sonja-nycdc good luck06:01
cdcthx06:02
syntaxxim having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?06:03
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lotusleafIf a user installs Ubuntu and installes Kubuntu-desktop and eventually uses Kubuntu as their desktop, as well as additional things like amarok and other fresh new releases via kubuntu.org repos, should they add the kubuntu.org kde repo (latest) as well? are there a lot of new kde packages that don't make it to the ubuntu repos aside from amarok?06:04
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trappistlotusleaf: I do06:05
sonja-nylotusleaf: Hell YES06:06
lotusleaftrappist: thx ;-)06:06
DaSkreechlotusleaf: Just monitor the topic of this chan. All new apps that get released are announced here06:06
lotusleafsonja-ny: heh, thx ;)06:06
lotusleafDaSkreech: thx =)06:06
DaSkreechlotusleaf: Basically It's Koffice Amarok and KDE releases06:06
mjunxthat's all I've ever seen06:06
lotusleafDaSkreech: thx and do misc. libs and such get updated too in the kubuntu repo that don't hit the ubuntu repo?06:06
mjunxdid they ever backport libxine 1.1.2 (I think it was that) so that amarok-xine could play flac in dapper?06:07
mjunxlotusleaf: not that I've seen, but it's possible06:07
mjunxthey'd probably get updated in edgy-backports (or the -backports for your release) if anything06:07
lotusleafmjunx: k thx =)06:07
lotusleafawesome, appreciate the quick & helpful answers despite the many tired people in various channels right now. ;-)06:08
mjunxlucky you; I'm not getting any answers in #ubuntu+1 :(06:08
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DaSkreechlotusleaf: That would be the backports06:08
mjunxwell, brb, gotta restart X to get 915resolution applied... I hate this hack06:09
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lotusleafDaSkreech: k thx =)06:09
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mjunxI've gotta script this someday06:11
mjunxuntil Xorg 7.3 (I think that's the one) can detect hardware on the fly like it should06:11
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DaSkreech7.3 good lord that's a long way away06:12
mjunxI know06:12
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mjunxbut I think it's gonna be in feisty+106:12
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mjunxwhich is why ubuntu's not going to bother making Xorg <7.3 easily configurable since it'd be a "waste of time"...06:13
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mjunxI think it'd be useful since Ubuntu will be one of the only distros that uses 7.3 in its stable release for a while...06:13
mjunx(gentoo doesn't count since they use up to date packages all the time)06:13
voidmagegentoo never counts :P06:14
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BluesKajok guys , I'm running the live cd in order to reinstate job control/kernel ... any ideas ?06:17
BluesKajin other words,what's next ?06:17
mjunxBluesKaj: are you running feisty?06:17
BluesKajedgy06:17
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mjunxdamn06:17
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sonicAnyone here use Kmail?06:21
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mjunxme06:21
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sonicHi mjunx06:21
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mjunxhey, sonic06:21
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sonicJust wondering do I have to keep all my sent items it the same folder for all acounts?06:21
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soniceg I set up a mail account06:22
sonicMy 'sent items', 'drafts' etc all go into the dirs in 'Local folders'06:22
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sonicI want them to go into dirs under the account name06:22
e1mer!feisty06:22
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+106:22
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ibert_sonic: if you are using an imap server like gmx this does'nt make sense06:23
sonicibert_: why?06:23
mjunxhmm, I don't know specifically since I put then all in sent-items06:23
mjunxif there's no option specific to the account options, you can make filters that puts them where you want06:23
sonicSee I wanted a sent items dir for each account06:23
sonicThere are options but06:23
sonicI get strange errors06:24
sonicI can set the destination folders for each account06:24
ibert_sonic: but that' fine, isn't it?06:24
h3sp4wnYou could use procmail for sorting your mail out06:24
sonicbut when I go to send a message I get:06:24
ibert_sonic: I use it like this06:25
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trappistsonic: you can set this stuff up in kmail06:25
trappistsonic: (I assume you're using kmail)06:25
sonja-nyI have three printers hooked up to this pc, some via ftp , etc.. I have found all the good ones, but i also have a sleazy hp deskjet D2330 , which IS picked up by kubuntu, but its so NEW I know there are no drivers for linux, any way i can PROBE it in a term etc... I dont realy need it, its just handy for little docs i print out,, Its the only one that dont work ?06:26
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trappistsonic: just edit your identity and go to the 'advanced' tab06:26
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syntaxxok my tvtime already have sound after doing modprobe -r bt878 bttv and modprobe snd_bt87x modprobe bt878 now how can i make it permanently? that i dont have to redo it everytime i restarted my ubuntu?06:27
sonictrappist: I did that but I'm getting errors saying this could be because I do not have permissions on this resource06:28
sonicI presume that's the mail server itself06:28
trappistsyntaxx: add modules you don't want to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, and add ones you want to /etc/modules06:28
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ibert_syntaxx: in /etc/rc.local06:28
trappistsonic: yep that's probably the imap server06:28
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trappistsonic: I use courier-imapd on my mail server and it all works well06:28
sonicIt's just been suggested to me that I should put dirs like 'sent-items', 'trash' etc shold be subdirs of the 'inbox'. Is this true?06:29
syntaxxtrappist: ok so im gonna add blacklist bttv and in /etc/modules the bt878 and snd_bt87x?06:29
sonicThey're usuallly on the same level as the inbox in my experience06:29
trappistsonic: that might work out better for you, yeah06:29
trappistsyntaxx: that ought to do it06:30
syntaxxtrappist: and it will not affect anything that is auto loaded at boot?06:30
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sonicThe dirs don't exist on the imap server so should I set the permissions so that I can create the dirs on the server?06:30
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trappistsyntaxx: it will prevent things you don't want from loading, and it will auto-load what you want - shouldn't affect anything else06:31
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syntaxxtrappist: ok then.. ill reboot and try thanks06:31
trappistsonic: or create them on the server yourself - that's what I do06:31
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DaSkreech!fiesty06:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:32
unrealbrabre o konsole e?06:33
unrealbrooops06:33
unrealbrsry06:33
sonicCheers guys thanks for the help06:33
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michael_Hi, I have lost the wireless in system settings. Is there a way to get Kubuntu as when it was newly installed?06:37
mjunxmichael_: have you tried running kcontrol to see if it's in there?06:37
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mjunxalt+f2 -> type kcontrol -> enter06:38
michael_Yes, I was trying with ndiswrapper and installing a Debian kernel so I think I change configuration files06:38
mjunxwell, ndiswrapper is beyond my realm of knowledge06:39
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Bubba_Gumpany know of a good p2p client06:40
Bubba_Gump?06:40
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Dr_willisdepends on the network06:40
Dr_willistheres ooooodles of p2p clients out06:40
syntaxxtrappist: i rebooted but still i need to do it06:40
Dr_willis!p2p06:40
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.06:40
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Bubba_Gumpi'm using aMule at the moment06:41
Bubba_Gumpwhich is good for hard to find files and such :)06:41
sonja-nyamule a minute virus lol06:41
DaSkreech!fluxbuntu06:42
ubotufluxbuntu is a Ubuntu-derivative based on the FluxBox Desktop Environment. It is lightweight, swift and sleek. | Fluxbuntu Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Fluxbuntu Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | The Fluxbuntu Community: http://community.fluxbuntu.org/06:42
Dr_willisEgads - another one?!06:42
DaSkreechSo there is a fluxbuntu-manager pacakge?06:42
Dr_willishow about an Icewmubuntu06:42
defryskBubba_Gump, try nicotine06:42
Dr_willisand a windowmakerubuntu06:42
Bubba_Gumpnicotine?06:42
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defryskBubba_Gump, a souolseek clone06:43
defrysksoulseek*06:43
Bubba_Gumpheh :)06:43
Bubba_Gumpok06:43
twosouls82museek+? :)06:43
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twosouls82or better museeq, qt fork of it06:43
icheyneBubba_Gump, ktorrent and http://torrentz.com06:43
defryskis there a kde clone for nicotine ?06:43
Dr_willisI think someone should make a "multi-ubuntu" that just asks what desktops to install.. and downloads the packages during the install.06:44
Bubba_Gumpand, one more thing :)06:44
Bubba_Gumpa good virus scanner06:44
Bubba_Gumpanyone know of one?06:44
defryskget your latest ktorrent here : http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-edgy/06:44
twosouls82defrysk: there is museeq a fork of museek+, which is a slsk client using the Qt toolkit06:44
sonja-nyDr_willis: Hell yes KDE all the way06:44
icheyneBubba_Gump, antivirus is not really required06:44
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defrysktwosouls82, good to know :)06:44
sonja-nyBubba_Gump: on linux lol hmmmmmmm not needed06:44
Dr_willissonja-ny,   all these variants with just different desktop and eye candy for the splash screens are getting silly. :)06:45
londo4help::: Mixer cannot be found06:45
Bubba_Gumpvery nice :D06:45
icheyneBubba_Gump, AVG do one, but I don't use it06:45
twosouls82defrysk: there is a repo listed for dapper and edgy on their site06:45
sonja-nyDr_willis: yes true but each to there OWN, thats linux I love KDe, gnome is ok , but not for me06:45
defrysknot a repo but there is a directory for dapper also06:45
defrysktwosouls82, http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-dapper/06:45
Dr_willissonja-ny,  right. but theres no need for me to get a seperate' fluxubuntu' cd - since it should just be an apt-get install away....06:46
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twosouls82defrysk: I meant for museeq, the slsk client06:46
twosouls82:)06:46
Dr_willissonja-ny,  ive had to explain to way too many people that kubuntu and ubuntu are  the same core with just different packages. :)06:46
defrysktwosouls82, oh hehe06:46
londo4sound card no installed=== help06:46
defrysktwosouls82, link ?06:46
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Dr_willishttp://fluxbuntu.org/   heh06:47
londo4Mixer cannot be found06:47
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Dr_willisFluxbuntu Linux on Distrowatch; Sony Playstation 306:47
sonja-nyDr_willis: you right , to WIN over more linux users from winsucks, we need to have a good install and BTW all the linux distros I have used, and live cds too, Kubuntu is the BEST i have ever had06:47
twosouls82defrysk: http://www.museek-plus.org/wiki/MuseekOnDebian .. the 'On Ubuntu GNU/Linux' section06:47
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defrysktwosouls82, thanks :)06:48
Dr_willissonja-ny,  for my laptop its kicks booty. :) i just put that 'linux mint' ubuntu variant.. (guess he couldent think of a mintubuntu name)06:48
Clinton__I've got a camera which did automount just fine under Kubuntu, now when I plug it in I get the standard dialog asking me what to do.  I select "Open a window" for it, and nothing happens.  When I look at the mount, the camera hasn't been mounted.  Anyone have an idea what might be happening here?06:48
londo4Admiral_Chicago, could you help me? I was trying to fixe it but I did not get it work06:48
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twosouls82defrysk: read acrefully before just issueing the commands there06:48
twosouls82:)06:48
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twosouls82replace branch with edgy06:48
twosouls82carefully*06:48
sonja-nyDr_willis: you have a link i want to convert my pressario R3000 over06:48
Dr_willissonja-ny,  for mint linux? i got it from that Disrtowatch page.06:49
sonja-nyDr_willis: thanks googling it now06:49
defrysktwosouls82, , its bookmarked , gonna check it out tomorrow :)06:49
defryskdistort watch ?06:49
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Dr_willisDistrowatch06:50
yoyoslt tous le monde06:50
defrysk!fr | yoyo06:50
ubotuyoyo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:50
twosouls82aye defrysk :)06:50
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Dr_willishttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fluxbuntu06:50
londo4help06:51
londo4Help06:51
londo4sound card driver06:51
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londo4Who can help me with sound card driver problem?06:53
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DaSkreechlondo4: Which sound card?06:54
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londo4I got onboard soundcard06:55
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sonja-nylondo4: can you tell us the pc specs so we can have a look ?06:55
campbch!midi06:55
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo06:55
londo4yes, Dell Optiplex G106:56
londo4P206:56
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DaSkreechlondo4: What does lshw tell you?06:57
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londo4There is not sound, I see a icon it says Mixer cannot be found06:58
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sonja-nylondo4:  did it work in winblows ???06:58
londo4Yes it works in windows06:58
DaSkreechI'd guess yes :)06:58
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sonja-nysorry just asking , no ned to fix something thats dead lol06:59
londo4I have crystal WDM codec sound card06:59
DaSkreechlondo4: Can You go to a terminal and type lshw06:59
DaSkreechAh06:59
sonja-nyAhhhhhhh06:59
londo4its than06:59
campbch!lshw07:00
ubotulshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB07:00
saramites oli07:01
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DaSkreechinkwell: Small I today07:02
londo4DaSkreech>07:02
DaSkreechyes londo407:03
inkwellsmall 1?07:03
inkwelli?07:03
DaSkreechsmall i07:03
inkwello07:03
DaSkreechk07:03
londo4a iordy audio07:03
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inkwelli'm goin nuts tring to learn this linux stuff07:03
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inkwelli try one thing and screw something else up07:04
londo4Do I have to see some specifically place?07:04
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DaSkreechlondo4: I'm looking for a troubleshooter07:06
londo4DaSkreech"07:07
londo4Ok07:07
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DaSkreechlondo4: incedentially you can ask in #ubuntu as well the answer they come up with will be the same as the one we come up with07:07
DaSkreechinkwell: What did you break :)07:07
inkwellaptitude07:08
DaSkreechinkwell: What's it saying?07:08
londo4<DaSkreech> With that answer I can`t make ik work07:09
DaSkreechWhat did they say?07:09
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londo4they geve me a link to read07:09
inkwell Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list07:09
londo4but I did not foud the soluction07:09
londo4I want to google also07:09
Dr_willisinkwell,  this is when it pays to learn the basics first.. then slowly start tweaking/changing things.07:10
inkwelli quess so07:10
Dr_willisinkwell,  sounds like you got a typo on your        /etc/apt/sources.list07:10
DaSkreechlondo4: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5464&highlight=audio+irq07:10
inkwellyea07:10
Dr_willis'crawl/walk/run/fly' :)07:10
inkwellreinstall?07:10
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londo4Ok07:11
DaSkreechinkwell: Ha ha No. Can you pastebin your sources?07:11
DaSkreech!pastebin > inkwell07:11
londo4I will go there07:11
Dr_willisreinstall = the windows answer07:11
DaSkreechthe file you are looking for is /etc/apt/sources.list07:11
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Dr_willisLEARN the system and learn how to fix things = the linux answer07:11
inkwellwhen u paste? whats that do in that screen?07:12
inkwelli paste what i'm getting for an error in the big box07:13
inkwell?07:13
Dr_willispastebin is a web site you can cut/paste text to - then you give us the url of the paste, so we can se it in out browsers.07:13
sonja-nyinkwell: try this site http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm07:13
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Dr_willisa paste of the apt.sources file is proberly a start.07:13
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inkwelli like driving myself nuts with learning new stuff07:14
Dr_willis'crawl/walk/run/fly' :)07:14
sonja-nyinkwell then TRY that link ?07:14
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Dr_williswhen in doubt.. read, read , read, read....07:14
Dr_willisit slowly starts fitting all togeher07:14
sonja-nylinux is NOT windows,,so dont ask us to make it work like it,, ask bill gates to get better hehehehe, or steal more from US07:15
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DaSkreechinkwell: When you paste in the box it should refresh the page. Give us teh URL at teh top07:15
inkwellok07:15
DaSkreechThen we can all see it if we want to :)07:16
DaSkreechWithout disturbing those who don't want to see it07:16
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DaSkreechYEah I get that a lot07:16
inkwellhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33316/07:17
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DaSkreechbut you are going to get O-T real fast :)07:17
inkwellright?07:17
DaSkreechYes sir07:17
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sonja-nyYes Sir inkwell did you SUDO IT ?07:18
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inkwellsudo what?07:18
DaSkreechinkwell: can you copy the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?07:18
otaku-sansudo....at the beginning of a command that needs root access07:18
DaSkreechinkwell: press Alt+F2 and type kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:18
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inkwellpast this?07:19
sonja-nyinkwell: linux has TWO logins one is @ user one is ROOT, we need the ROOT commands07:19
DaSkreechinkwell: Yes07:19
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inkwellhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33317/07:20
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otaku-sansonja-ny: should of probably started my explanation like that ;)  I'm so dumb07:20
DaSkreechinkwell: Did you put in that nividia-glx at the top?07:20
sonja-nyinkwell: thats what we need thank you07:20
kittisakhello everybody07:20
DaSkreechHi07:21
inkwelli dunno07:21
otaku-sanhowdy07:21
inkwellmaby07:21
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inkwellshould i take it out?07:21
sonja-nyotaku-san: sorry my bad i am just helping out , i aint no guru, just N end user, you take it from here and sorry07:21
TheGateKeeperinkwell, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories07:21
DaSkreechinkwell: yes07:22
otaku-sansonja-ny: no I'm with you...I'm so n00b.  I was complimenting you....07:22
sonja-nyotaku-san: then lets have @ beer and @ smoke and be friends07:22
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DaSkreechinkwell: that should make aptitude work again07:23
kittisakeverybody help me !!!07:23
kittisakplease07:23
DaSkreechinkwell: want to learn some more about that system07:23
DaSkreechkittisak: You honestly don't want that07:23
DaSkreech!anyone07:23
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:23
otaku-sansonja-ny: Deal!  Nice to meet cha'.  *sips beer*07:23
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sonja-nykittisak: I am @ lesbian do you realy want my help ?07:23
Dr_willis @ lesbian ?07:24
kittisaki have problem ISPConfig with postfix,can use email client but, test send from yahoo relay access denied07:24
sonja-nyotaku-san: got smoke too, peace pipe07:24
otaku-sansweeet07:24
sonja-nyyahooooooooooo omFG does anyone use that spam anymore ??07:24
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Tm_TEr?07:25
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inkwelli took the nvidia line out in kate but it won't save07:25
LynoureTm_T: indeed07:25
kittisakF1 F1 Please :-)07:25
misoI'm considering running a web server (apache) on my box so that family can see photos. Any suggestions for a decent photo album generator?07:25
Lynourekittisak: F1? That's the first of the function keys, you'll have to press it yourself :)07:26
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kittisaki have problem ISPConfig with postfix,can use email client but, test send from yahoo relay access denied07:27
TheGateKeeperinkwell, follow the url I gave you, if you want to edit your sources so Run Command... then kdesu kate /etc/sources.list07:27
sonja-nyLynoure: is not F1 that European racing like nascar but shumi always wins aka farrarri07:27
Lynourekittisak: I use exim4 myself, so my postfix skills might be rusty, but have you already configured into it what domains it accepts mail for?07:28
sonja-nykdesu ??? damn it TheGateKeeper is that another sudo command ?07:28
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misoI'm thinking a PHP generated album but opinions appreciated07:29
DaSkreechkittisak: ISPconfig?07:29
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, yes, sudo you use for cli commands for gui apps you prefix with kdesu07:29
kittisakISPConfig last version07:30
sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: thank you sir, googling it now07:30
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TheGateKeepersonja-ny, np :-)07:31
LynoureDaSkreech: http://www.ispconfig.org/, I assume07:31
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DaSkreechHi arafat07:31
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inkwellthanks for your patience, annoy ya later07:32
DaSkreechinkwell: gone?07:32
sonja-nymoin moin arafat07:32
Lynourekittisak: if you are paying someone for the use of the panel, they could help you. I do almost all my admining on a command line and cannot tell you how to use ISPConfig for it07:32
inkwelldoc appt.07:32
inkwellbe back soon07:32
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TheGateKeepersonja-ny, a little collection of bits & pieces I have put together: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/07:32
sonja-nyTheGateKeeper:  you may find D. Bouley's guide helpfull, Thank you ,,, and YEs i do find it easy to use, nice Guide BTW , keep it up , its the way to introduce more peeps to linux07:35
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TheGateKeepersonja-ny, pleased you like it :-)07:35
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sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: the pleasure was all mine, and yes I will eventually release my blog on linux distros i have tried and made them work from 64 AMD to P2 5 gig HDD boxes, they all , work fast07:37
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sonja-nyIs there any way in a term window, I can reformat my hard drive and ADD another partion , so I can switch over from one linux distro to another, but NOT loose my country tunes and some live DVDS I want to keep , before i switch over a suse box to Kubuntu ?07:45
DaSkreechlondo4: how are you doing?07:46
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DinkDaSkreech, huh ?07:46
londo4to bad man\07:46
londo4I did not fixe it07:47
DaSkreechlondo4: that's too bad then?07:47
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, use gparted livecd07:47
londo4very bad07:47
Chris_SwiftHi, anyone know where I can get the Edgy KUbuntu Source code?07:47
DaSkreechlondo4: try searching for DELL and sound on the forums07:47
londo4there is someone who knows07:47
londo4ok07:47
DaSkreech apparently a lot of Dells use that card07:47
londo4Ok07:47
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DaSkreechChris_Swift: Umm mind being a bit more specific?07:48
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: great part message :)07:48
DaSkreechDink: I'm being an idiot :007:48
Chris_SwiftThe whole code07:48
Chris_Swiftlike a Source CD07:48
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BluesKajDaSkreech: ???07:48
DaSkreechChris_Swift: I guess you could install it and then just get source packages07:48
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Chris_SwiftAny idea with install?07:49
DaSkreechDink: the PS3 can't possibly be used as a DVR07:49
Chris_Swiftlol, PS3 isnt that good07:49
DaSkreechChris_Swift: again not sure what you are asking07:49
sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: thanks for the wonderfull advice , once again07:49
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Chris_SwiftAny idea how to get it without installing Kubuntu?07:49
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, yw :-)07:49
DaSkreechpackages.ubuntu.com07:49
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velleHey. Are the mailing lists really the recommended way to ask questions (besides IRC)? I think the system is extremely primitive. What do you think about that?07:50
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DaSkreechvelle: how is it private?07:50
DinkIf you install linux on it i guess you could do it from there but i dont use DVR now so no clue on how it all works07:50
DaSkreechexcludes people with internet connections?07:50
Chris_Swiftthanks07:50
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, there are several partition apps, use whatever you are comfortable using07:50
DaSkreechDink: well there are no TV In slots are there? no cable in either07:50
velleDaSkreech: I said primitive, not private07:51
DaSkreech so how would it get a signal?07:51
Dinkrun myth client on it or something and push it to there ?07:51
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, might also be of interest: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page07:51
DaSkreechvelle: Ah perhaps but they are easily archivable and searchable which makes hem very good for historical and research purposes07:51
sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: I am switching over a suse box to Kubuntu , but i wanted to save my Country music and avis. Garth brooks etc....07:51
Dinkyou would still need another comp to get the signal07:51
DaSkreechChris_Swift: I'm hearing there are source CDs?07:51
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, you could also burn to dvd if you have a burner07:52
binkshi can someone help with a strange edgy problem07:52
BluesKajwell DaSkreech, i managed to do some damage to Edgy while trying to fix some Google Earth GUI probs ...now i can't boot into edgy  ... I get this prompt (initramts) after the message: target filesystem doesn't have /sbin.init07:52
sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: are you married lol ,, damn it its all i needed07:52
vellebut why not normal forums?07:52
DaSkreechvelle: there are forums as well if you want to use those07:53
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TheGateKeepersonja-ny, :-)07:53
binksX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16807:53
BluesKajerr... /sbin/init07:53
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: check if you have a /sbin/init :)07:53
velleand... is the mailing lists the typical way to get help? or the forums?07:53
sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: NO its an old DELL no burner but been with me for all my life, and she is fast as hell I tuned it... I just want my movies and music and konvert her to Kubuntu07:53
DaSkreechvelle: to get help? the forums07:53
DaSkreechvelle: to have input on the future of Kubuntu would be mailing list07:54
BluesKajI can't DaSkreech...i can't boot into edgy ...running off the live cd right now07:54
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sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: I can burn on this pc its an amd 64 bit and use the disks to live the older pc07:54
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Right so mount your drive07:54
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ruedi!torvalds07:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:55
happycow-When Kubuntu asks me to update the system, should I just update anything it says ?07:55
BluesKajI would if I knew how , DaSkreech07:55
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sonja-nylinus torvalds ..MY GOD07:55
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TheGateKeepersonja-ny, well if you want a fast distro then have a look at arch, you have to build it from a base system, but it's fast, kubuntu has many attributes but speed ain't one of them07:55
DaSkreechBluesKaj: do you know what drive you have LInux on?07:55
velleDaSkreech: Do you use the mailing lists? dont your email client get totally flooded?07:55
BluesKajhda3 i think07:55
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DaSkreechvelle: depends on what you are subscribed into07:56
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sonja-nyTheGateKeeper: can we take this private.... I dont want to be told OFF ..... using a none Kubuntu format ?07:56
velleDaSkreech: and there is only one way of cleaning: manually07:56
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: ok then type mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive07:56
TheGateKeepersonja-ny, yes by all means07:56
londo4Help!!Help -->>> looking in the KDE window the little sound icon has a red X on it and says "mixer07:56
DaSkreechvelle: Cleaning?07:56
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jerodhi07:57
DaSkreechlondo4: wasn;t like that before?07:57
DaSkreechhi07:57
londo4be found"KMix. The is a older Dell computer OptiPlex GX107:57
londo4It was07:57
SeanTaterDoes anyone recommend a audio CD ripping program that allows manually setting where the audio files are to be saved?07:57
jerodhab mal ne frage. wie kann ich flash unter 64 amd installieren bei kubuntu07:57
velleDaSkreech: aaahhm, removing the unwanted mails, if I dont want to read anything from a thread, I still have to delete all the incoming07:57
DaSkreechSeanTater: Konqueror07:57
LjL!de | jerod07:57
ubotujerod: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:57
DaSkreechvelle: Oh yes I guess that would be nsty but then if you have such little interest just read teh archives07:58
SeanTaterDaSkreech: audiocd takes quite a while and does not fully utilize my Cd drive or CPU07:58
DaSkreechksaudiocd?07:58
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BluesKajDaSkreech:Linux = dev/hda3/ext207:58
DaSkreechlondo4: have the forums given any hope yet?07:58
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: did you type the commands I gave?07:59
DaSkreechor copy and paste :)07:59
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londo4no,07:59
velleDaSkreech: so there is 1) forums for questions, 2) mailing lists and irc for informal chat on background, future, ideas, problems, etc. and 3) launchpad for registering bugs, and tracing them07:59
velleDaSkreech: right?07:59
DaSkreechvelle: good summary07:59
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SeanTaterDaSkreech: I don;t see it in the repositories..08:00
DaSkreechlaunchpad can be used for wishlists as well08:00
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DaSkreechSeanTater: try kscd08:00
SeanTaterDaSkreech: okay08:00
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DaSkreechSeanTater: or kaudiocreator08:00
Chris_Swift!info08:01
ubotuinfo: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB08:01
DaSkreechvelle: and finally google for frustration :)08:01
Chris_Swift!commands08:01
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands08:01
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Chris_Swift!source08:01
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:01
eilker!bum > eilker08:01
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Chris_Swift!OMG08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about OMG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:02
velleDaSkreech: the thing is that I have some enhancement proposals and bugs, and I dont have the insight or knowledge to help solve them, but I still would like to know the status of my proposal,i.e. i would like to know if somebody actually reads it and acts upon it, so my input doesnt just gather dust08:02
DaSkreechvelle: launchpad08:02
Chris_SwiftAnyone got XUbuntu on Xbox?08:02
Hawkwind!botabuse | Chris_Swift08:03
ubotuChris_Swift: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)08:03
HawkwindChris_Swift: Might join #Xubuntu for Xubuntu related stuff08:03
DaSkreechChris_Swift: What kind of source are you looking for?08:03
Chris_SwiftThe base Ubuntu code for the OS08:03
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DaSkreechChris_Swift: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/source/08:04
Chris_SwiftWhen you think Edgy will be on the site?08:05
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DaSkreechDiscussing now08:05
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Chris_Swiftlol "SOurce CD 1" It's over 2GB08:05
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SeanTaterDaSkreech: KAudioCreator has the neat and annoying feature of automagically choosing a place to save it, which is not conveinent when I want each one in a very different place08:06
SeanTaterDaSkreech: brb08:06
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DaSkreechSource is a good deal larger than compiled code08:06
Chris_SwiftGood, a challenge08:06
DaSkreechNot sure how that is a challenge but go to it08:07
DaSkreechlondo4: I'm still looking08:07
DaSkreechBlast!08:07
Chris_Swiftlol i thought it said complicatated not compiled08:07
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Chris_SwiftAnyone here get problems installing SuSE 10.1 from a normal DVD or the Live DVD for I386?08:14
[cf] nightrid3rChris_Swift: nope08:15
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Chris_Swiftok, just my friend and I have the prob then08:15
[cf] nightrid3rChris_Swift: beter ask un a suse chan they can help beter08:16
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DaSkreechChris_Swift: They have daily source code as well08:18
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Chris_Swiftlol, are you on abput SuSE?08:18
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Chris_SwiftSuSE channel is as dead as the dodo08:22
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Chris_Swiftso's XUbuntu08:22
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DaSkreechSo is this08:22
Chris_SwiftSo what are you into then? As I am uterly bored (Spelt Wrong :P)08:23
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DaSkreechDink: Hmm never thought of that Seems redundant though08:24
Chris_Swift*Ywn*08:24
Chris_Swift*Yawn*08:25
DaSkreechChris_Swift: Join #ubuntu :)08:25
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Chris_SwiftDaSkreech: I have08:25
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DaSkreechOk that's a non sleepy chan :)08:26
DaSkreechKatapult: Hi Love ya!08:26
DaSkreechno offence sonja-ny08:26
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h3sp4wnAnyone know of any channels where you can passively observe and learn stuff (#debian used to be like that but more and more its full of people not reading the documentation)08:27
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KatapultIm trying to start the game AmericasArmy, but i get this error -> bash: ./armyops: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied. Any one now how to fix this?08:28
h3sp4wnKatapult: On edgy ?08:28
Katapultyes08:28
h3sp4wnIs it binary only ?08:29
Chris_SwiftAnyone have any ideas bout Wine, opinions etc08:29
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: #ubuntu-classroom08:29
crube!wine08:29
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:29
DaSkreech!winbe08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winbe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
DaSkreech!wine08:29
Chris_Swift!Winex08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Winex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
Chris_Swift!Cedega08:29
Katapulth3sp4wn: Yes.08:29
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega08:29
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: What interesting stuff has been tought there recently08:29
crubeChris_Swift: I've been pretty happy with it this fat.08:29
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: Loads of stuff :)08:29
h3sp4wnKatapult: strings ./armyops08:30
DaSkreechThey have a schedule check the wiki08:30
zorglu_DaSkreech: isnt that stuff for beginner ?08:30
crubeChris_Swift: I just don't need it for anything. I have all the apps I need in Kubuntu.08:30
zorglu_DaSkreech: i have seen stuff like 'how to use irc' :)08:30
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DaSkreechNot really. they have some higher classes08:30
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zorglu_ok chechink the schedule08:30
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Katapulth3sp4wm: Dident work.08:31
Chris_SwiftDaSkreech: With a normal Laptop's warrenty does changing the OS Break it, somewhere like PC World Warrrent08:31
zorglu_i could use a course on how to package and setup a repository :)08:31
Chris_Swifty08:31
zorglu_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom08:31
Katapulth3sp4wm: got this message -> echo "Couldn't run America's Army: Operations (armyops-bin). Is ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH set?"08:31
DaSkreechChris_Swift: read your warranty :)08:31
dimsuzHi! I installed nvidia-glx v.9629 from tseliot's repository and it works. Can I get nvidia-glx-dev of the same version somewhere? :) Or is it n/a?08:32
Chris_Swiftzorglu: I wasnt asking "y" added it to then end of my message08:32
Chris_SwiftHavent had it yet, just wondering if you know?08:32
h3sp4wnKatapult: What do you mean didn't work there should be some output08:32
h3sp4wnKatapult: cat ./armyops (basically is armyops a shell script or not)08:33
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Chris_Swiftbye all08:33
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Katapulth3sp4wn: Yee, alot of output.08:33
zorglu_DaSkreech: well the web page shows only very beginner stuff :)08:33
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DinkDaSkreech, that would be the only DVR support I can see the PS3 having08:33
h3sp4wnKatapult: But is it like garbled text ? or can it be read ?08:33
Katapulth3sp4wn: I can read it yes.08:34
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gemidjywhat software to use for conversion from MPEG to Avi ?08:34
gemidjyfrontend, need for an enduser08:34
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devilredhati need someone's help08:35
h3sp4wnKatapult: is the first line #!/bin/sh08:35
zorglu_gemidjy: if you find one, im interested too08:35
devilredhatwhy i cant *make* in my shell?08:35
DaSkreechDink: Would kind of defeat the purpose of a cheap DVR08:35
devilredhatdid i must setup something?08:35
Katapulth3sp4wn: Yes.08:35
h3sp4wnKatapult: change it to #!/bin/bash08:35
DaSkreechdevilredhat: what?08:35
LeeJunFandevilredhat: have you installed build-essential?08:35
LeeJunFan!build08:35
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)08:35
devilredhatLeeJunFan : not i'm not08:36
devilredhathow to install?08:36
LeeJunFandevilredhat: sudo apt-get install build-essential08:36
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LeeJunFandevilredhat: that will install make and gcc compile components, etc..08:36
B-Minushello08:36
velleDaSkreech: can you help me a sec, please?08:36
sonicAnyone know a chm viewer that will let me print chapters in Duplex?08:36
devilredhatok..08:36
devilredhatlet me try :)08:36
B-Minusdoes anyone know how to get my laptop smartcard reader to read/Write to a SD card ?08:37
DaSkreechvelle: yes08:37
sonicie, use both sides of the page08:37
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wowcan someone please look at this problem? it seems to be affecting ubuntu at a very weird filesystem level08:37
wowhttp://phpfi.com/17756308:37
wowif you use ssh, bash, and edgy, i'd look at http://phpfi.com/17756308:37
velleDaSkreech: i want to comment on a thread, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-November/010369.html, but the i've signed up for the mailing list after the last message, so how do I reply to it08:37
h3sp4wnKatapult: Use vi or kate or whatever - if you are using a gui app use kdesu kate ./armyops - otherwise sudo vim ./armyops08:37
LeeJunFanB-Minus: if your reader worked with linux it would probably pop up a requestor when you plug in a card. It's likely the built in one is not supported.08:37
velleDaSkreech: just give it title "Re: " concat "Thread name"08:37
Katapulth3sp4wn: And then run it yes?08:37
LeeJunFanB-Minus: mine works with SD cards, but not anything else. :(08:38
devilredhatLeeJunFan : i more..08:38
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h3sp4wnKatapult: Try it - It may have /bin/sh explicitly in other parts though08:38
devilredhati've setup bnc in my shell's but i did'nt know my shell address08:38
devilredhathow to check it?08:38
Katapulth3sp4wn: Same problem.08:38
LeeJunFandevilredhat: you mean your IP internet address?08:38
devilredhatnope08:38
devilredhatip to ssh in my shell08:38
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zorglu_wow: the tab completion fails but is the command itself working ? the scp i mean08:40
h3sp4wnzsh tab completion is alot better than bash's in my experience08:40
LeeJunFandevilredhat: sry, not sure I understand. If you are looking for you local IP address you can run ifconfig in a shell to get that address. The IP will be listed with the device.08:40
devilredhatoic..08:41
devilredhatok i'll try..08:41
DaSkreechvelle: I guess that could work. I'd ask someon who was already in the conversation to forward the mail to me but that might be too much trouble for al linvolved08:41
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h3sp4wndevilredhat: ifconfig $1 | awk '/inet addr/ {printf "%s\n", substr($2,6)}' | grep -v ^12708:42
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devilredhatthanks to all08:43
velleDaSkreech: thanks, ill just try now08:43
wowzorglu_: yes, exactly08:43
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zorglu_wow: so the bug is only in the tab completion08:43
wowzorglu_: it only happens when i tab complete with scp08:43
zorglu_wow: nothing to do with ssh or the filesystem08:44
ranametalHelo! Who knows which packages are included in the kubuntu DVD?08:45
DaSkreechwow: You mean when you tab complete on a section like wow@azeroth.com:/var/accounts/Thrall/info ?08:45
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DaSkreechranametal: the developers :)08:45
DaSkreechHi DjDarkman08:45
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DjDarkmanhi DaSkreech08:46
DaSkreechBluesKaj: How goes?08:46
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h3sp4wnranametal: The whole of main (or it used to be)08:46
LeeJunFanAnd I think a good part of universe too.08:47
DjDarkmandoes someone know why my souncards numbers keep changing on every system start?08:47
LeeJunFanall together a mirror for the i386 version main,univ,multi is about 13G08:47
ranametalok :)08:47
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h3sp4wnwow: Seriously if you like tab completion zsh tab completes almost everything08:48
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h3sp4wnIts more sensible (at least than bash by default anyway) for example cd <tab> it sensible enough to only tab complete directories08:50
DjDarkmansometimes my onboard soundcard is hw1.0 ,and sometimes it`s hw0,0 ,it`s changing every time and it`s very bad08:51
overkill22hi!08:51
overkill22someone can help me for the streaming viedo?08:51
zorglu_DjDarkman: leave it free08:51
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DjDarkmanzorglu_: don`t undersand what youre trying to say08:51
ruedi!KGet08:52
zorglu_DjDarkman: some lame joke, you can safely ignore it08:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KGet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
DjDarkmanzorglu_: the problem is that I have problems with that ,because I have two soundcards08:52
DaSkreechvelle: What is your comment btw>08:52
zorglu_DjDarkman: i dunno the solution sorry08:53
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Bubba_Gump:)08:53
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velleim writing it now :) ill get back to you, i have a bit of critique, but i want to make sure that no body feels offended :)08:53
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mariehas anyone installed kubuntu on a macbookpro?08:53
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DaSkreechvelle: Someone will don't worry about it :)08:54
sonja-nymarie...yes\08:54
h3sp4wnDjDarkman: Maybe you could explicitly make a udev rule (I use this for my network card otherwise they all go wrong) SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", SYSFS{address}=="00:0f:b5:fa:ae:20", NAME="eth2"08:55
marieis there a guide some where for setting up a dual boot with osx?08:55
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marieI've been trying to find one08:55
h3sp4wnDjDarkman: Have a look at the udev documentation its not that bad08:55
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DjDarkmanI`m not an expert at this ,no other easier way around?08:55
BluesKajok gents what do you make of theis message at bootup? . /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off08:56
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h3sp4wnDjDarkman: Not that I know its the kernel setting it randomly08:56
h3sp4wnDjDarkman: So udev is the only way I know to fix it08:56
DjDarkmanso it`s the kernel`s fault and not my systems?08:57
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Found /sbin/init ?08:57
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TheGateKeepermarie: http://trainque.com/blog/2006/10/21/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-osx/08:58
BluesKajDaSkreech: I'm running in the Live CD right now08:58
DaSkreechI surmised08:59
TheGateKeepermarie: I just googled --> dual boot ubuntu osx08:59
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: You couldn't find /sbin/init I guess you fixed that?08:59
marieI googled but all I could find was tribooting stuff08:59
mariethanks for the help!08:59
BluesKajno i can't find anything09:00
TheGateKeepermarie: well hope it helps :-)09:00
TheGateKeeperl8r folks09:00
mariewell, I don't know if the powerbook is the same as my macbook09:00
BluesKajDaSkreech: hoe does one become 'root' in the live cd ?09:01
campbchi'm trying to get LMMS to work, and ive made sure that all of the required sound libraries are installed, but when i open the program the sound crackles constantly? it doesnt play any sounds while it's doing this, just the crackling09:01
BluesKajhow09:01
campbchimagine sticking a ruler into a low-speed fan09:01
DaSkreechBluesKaj: sudo su09:01
LynoureBluesKaj: sudo does it there too09:01
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BluesKajok what's next ..still don't have /sbin/init... DaSkreech09:02
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: /sbin/init doens't exist?09:03
confuscoI installed and then uninstalled the official nvidia drivers, then installed nvidia-glx-legacy again, and "nvidia" in xorg.conf now seems to want to use the official nvidia drivers i've unintalled and gives a "file not found" error. how do I make it use the nvidia-glx-legacy, which also I think is supposed to use the word "nvidia"??09:03
BluesKajnope09:03
wowh3sp4wn: uhm, since you're a zsh fanboy, let me start by saying that i think zsh is incredibly bloated. i also run many other distributions, and it seems that only [k] ubuntu has this tab completion problem in conjunction with its SSH client and its bash09:03
DaSkreechBluesKaj: What did you do?09:03
wowDaSkreech: did you look at the posted paste?09:03
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DaSkreechwow: No09:04
h3sp4wnwow: In the speed tests I did it performed at least as fast as bash in everything I tested09:04
wowDaSkreech: http://phpfi.com/17756309:04
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Before the killing?09:04
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ypsilagood evening09:04
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ypsilaemonkey: I need your help09:04
BluesKajwas trying to solve a google earth GUI problem and i followed some instructions on a page i found09:04
DaSkreechwow: That's what scp tab gives you?09:04
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wowDaSkreech: yes09:05
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Give us the page09:05
BluesKajlemme look09:05
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DaSkreechwow what is in the folder bug?09:05
darren_.msg NickServ IDENTIFY Thousand1009:05
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zorglu_:)09:05
wowDaSkreech: ... please read the paste09:05
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wowDaSkreech: i started with a new folder as you can tell then made three files with touch09:05
zorglu_darren_: time to change your password, btw konversation allows you to send it automatically which would avoid that to happen again09:06
hyper_ch!nVidia09:06
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:06
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DaSkreechwow: Oh didnt see that part09:06
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DaSkreechzorglu_: too late :)09:06
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BluesKajDaSkreech: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/674910/an/0/page/009:07
sonja-nynnnnnnn justt  /say  it09:07
zorglu_:)09:07
BluesKajDaSkreech: the part about installing the xorg driver09:07
DaSkreechwow: Well I'm on dapper and it's not doing that so yeah it's edgy's bash09:08
cheesypieceshello there09:08
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cheesypiecesanyone free to help?09:08
zorglu_!anyone09:08
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?09:08
DaSkreech!anyone09:08
DaSkreechDoh!09:08
cheesypieceslol09:08
zorglu_DaSkreech: too late :)09:08
zorglu_arf arf :)09:09
DaSkreechBluesKaj: the edit xorg.conf part?09:09
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BluesKajyeah09:09
zorglu_nothing is worst that refactoring old code, you see how lame you are09:09
cheesypiecesok... I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?09:09
wowif anyone here is on bash with OpenSSH's client on Edgy, please follow the instructions here: http://phpfi.com/177563 and see if you can reproduce the error09:09
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Wouldnt happen to have thrid party repos would you?09:09
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DaSkreech!wireless09:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:10
cheesypiecesyeah i looked there09:10
cheesypiecesnothing like my problem is listed09:10
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BluesKajI have some from twosouls09:10
cheesypiecesor in any forums09:10
BluesKajI have some from twosouls , DaSkreech09:10
BluesKajhe was helping me with this problem earlier but had to leave09:11
cheesypiecesany ideas anyone?09:11
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T3hWiz0rdhas anyone in here gottan Swat to successfully work on kuubntu?09:12
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Before the rpoblem?09:12
wowT3hWiz0rd: yes09:12
T3hWiz0rdwow: hwat did you have to do?09:12
T3hWiz0rdwow: because it will not let me see it on localhost:90109:12
BluesKajyes09:12
wowapt-get it...09:12
T3hWiz0rdwow: thats what i did but it doesn't work09:12
DaSkreechHmm09:13
wowT3hWiz0rd: did you try lsof to verify if the port really was open?09:13
wowT3hWiz0rd: try lsof -i 90109:13
DinkSeveas, please let me back in :)09:13
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Not accusing but that seems a lot more like someone hacked your system :(09:13
T3hWiz0rdwow: said connection refused on telnet09:13
BluesKajwe were trying tofix the google earth GUI with a different version but it didn'y fix the prob lem there , so went to the site i just posted and did some of the commands and tried to reboot09:13
wowT3hWiz0rd: did you try links or a GUI browser?09:14
T3hWiz0rdgui09:14
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wowthen what does telnet have to do with anything?09:14
DaSkreech /sbin/init is not a likely candidate to get deleted09:14
woweither the port is open or it isn't09:14
T3hWiz0rdwow: checked if 901 was open09:14
T3hWiz0rdwow: lsof: unknown protocol name (901) in: -i 90109:15
T3hWiz0rdlsof 4.7709:15
wowis samaba running?09:15
wowsamba*09:15
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T3hWiz0rdwow: i can see shares on the network so imagine so09:15
BluesKajDaSkreech: " sudo shutdown -r now" ? looks badddd to me09:15
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cheesypiecesok... I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?09:16
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: do a man on shutdown09:17
BluesKajDaSkreech:  "twosouls" is agood guy ...h'e helped me before ...don't think he's a malicious hacker09:17
BluesKajhow do I do that ?09:17
DaSkreechtype man shutdown09:18
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icheynein a konsole window :)09:19
h3sp4wncheesypieces: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz09:19
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BluesKajDaSkreech:  what good will that do...I'm running on a different version of edgy than the one i want to fix09:19
cheesypieceshow do i get to that?09:20
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Oh it will show you that shutdown -r now isn't a bad command09:20
DaSkreechI run it al lthe time09:20
DaSkreechOk that's not true my system almost never goes down09:20
DaSkreech but I've done it before09:20
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campbchok, one last time: I am trying to get LMMS working again. It was working previously, but now it only plays crackling sounds even when there is nothing supposed to be playing. I have reinstalled LMMS and made sure all of my sound packages are installed. I have tried changing the server to OSS, Jack as opposed to ALSA, and it gives static and nothing, respectively. Programs such as Hydrogen, Rosegarden, Kaffeine, Flash, everything else has perfect sound.09:20
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DaSkreechwait. You have an edgy Cd?09:21
campbchwhat should i do?09:21
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aj_anyone here ever connect a treo to linux?09:21
Dark_Vampire!de09:21
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:21
BluesKajso what can we do about htis mess ?09:21
campbchi think that's everything, that would normally be wrong :(09:21
DaSkreechBluesKaj: You have an edgy Cd ?09:21
DaSkreechWhat do you mean a different edgy from the one you are fixing?09:21
BluesKajyes, I'm on it right now , DaSkreech09:21
ruediis there a text-based installer for kubuntu?09:22
campbchalt cd :o09:22
DaSkreechBluesKaj: What do you mean a different edgy from the one you are fixing?09:22
campbchi think...09:22
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DaSkreechruedi: the alternative CD is text based09:22
ruediah, ok09:23
BluesKajI'm running the live cd ...I'm using it to talk with you , DaSkreech09:23
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: how is your edgy install different ?09:23
DaSkreechubuntu:  hi09:23
BluesKajI'm running the live cd ...I'm using it to talk with you , DaSkreech09:23
cheesypiecesok, I'll give it one more shot: I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?09:24
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h3sp4wncheesypieces: Forget the gui09:24
BluesKajDaSkreech:  the other edgy is on my hard drive as hda309:25
cheesypiecesok, how do i do it using the konsol?09:25
cheesypieces+e09:25
h3sp4wncheesypieces: What encryption are you using ?09:25
cheesypieceswep, although i've turned it off to get this working09:25
DaSkreechBluesKaj: can You mount it?09:26
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DaSkreechiwconfig I think cheesypieces09:26
h3sp4wncheesypieces: What is the reason to use wep ? It can be cracked in 5 mins09:26
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: cause Ubuntu doesn't support wpa ?09:27
cheesypiecesi live in the middle of nowhere, it doesn't really affect me too much09:27
eitch0000I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?09:27
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Of course it supports wpa09:27
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h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Perfectly integrated into /etc/network/interfaces09:27
BluesKajhaven't tried as root DaSkreech09:27
icheyneDaSkreech, I'm on wpa09:27
DaSkreechBluesKaj: the init script shouldn't change so you should be able to copy the one from of the CD to the hard drive and *cross fingers* have it magically work09:27
cheesypiecesanyway, how do i set this up wihtout the gui?09:28
DaSkreechHmm set someone up on edgy yesterday and we had to drop from WPA2 to wep09:28
T3hWiz0rdswat won't work for me :-(09:28
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cheesypiecesnot really used command lines too much before09:28
BluesKajok DaSkreech how do I do that09:28
DaSkreechBluesKaj: from the konsole try this09:28
DaSkreechBluesKaj: mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive09:28
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DaSkreechthe tell me if ls drive/ gives you a listing of folders09:29
BluesKajok DaSkreech, done09:29
BluesKajnow?09:29
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Can your router support wpa ?09:29
cheesypiecesyes it can09:30
BluesKajnope09:30
intelikeywhy would "gnupg" depend on "libusb-0.1-4"   that makes no sense to me...  ?09:30
cheesypiecesbut i want to get the wireless working before i put any encryption on it09:30
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ok does ls -l drive/sbin/init give you anything?09:30
T3hWiz0rdhow do you restart inetd on kubuntu?09:30
T3hWiz0rd!samba09:30
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:30
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BluesKajno such drive or dir09:31
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Its as easy to do it with wpa as anything else (you have to change the whole syntax)09:31
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BluesKajerr file09:31
kevinhi all09:31
h3sp4wncheesypieces: What network card type do you use ?09:31
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ok do ls -l /sbin/init09:31
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ruedihow to flood a bot: #kubuntu-test-de09:31
cheesypiecesok, once i've got the thing to switch on without flicking back off, i'll encrypt it with wpa09:31
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DaSkreechcheesypieces: What chipset is it?09:32
intelikeyT3hWiz0rd like any other linux  /etc/init.d/inetd restart   ?09:32
BluesKajls: drive/sbin/init: No such file or directory, DaSkreech09:32
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intelikeyT3hWiz0rd or networking  ?09:32
scoateshi again.09:32
DaSkreechBluesKaj: No do /sbin/init this time09:32
cheesypiecesi have a broadcom 4306 card btw09:33
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: sudo: /etc/init.d/inetd: command not found09:33
scoatesXorg just started eating my CPU again, like it does daily. Anyone have any clue how I can diagnose and/org fix this problem?09:33
DaSkreechT3hWiz0rd: try xinetd09:33
BluesKajinit: illegal runlevel: (null), DaSkreech09:33
DaSkreechha ha09:33
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ok try ls -l /sbin/init09:33
kevinanyone else has problem while kubuntu starts it says video mode not supported?09:33
DaSkreechscoates: I normally find it's some app cuasing problems look at the second most CPU intensive X app and try kill that09:34
jameshello i am having trouble ejecting the cd can u help?09:34
DaSkreechjames: try typing eject on the command line09:34
BluesKajDaSkreech: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 57696 2006-10-10 10:42 /sbin/init09:34
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ok are you root?09:34
BluesKajyes09:35
scoatesDaSkreech: nothing else is using any more than 2% cpu at any given time, and it flops from konsole to konversation to amarok09:35
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scoatesI can't drag windows around, even09:35
scoates(well, visibly)09:35
DaSkreechok then try cp /sbin/init ~/drive/sbin09:35
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jamesit is accessing konqueror as a process says umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy09:35
T3hWiz0rdintelikey: swat will not work for me AT ALL09:35
DaSkreechBluesKaj: tell me if it throws an error09:35
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BluesKajDaSkreech: cp: cannot create regular file `/root/drive/sbin': No such file or directory09:36
jamesi have tried fuser -k does not work any other suggestions i can manually kill the process w/ kde system guard09:36
DaSkreechBluesKaj:  ok then try cp /sbin/init drive/sbin09:36
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cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: any ideas as yo why it would switch on then back off?09:36
DaSkreechscoates: How much memory is X using up?09:36
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scoates~350MB (35%)09:37
h3sp4wncheesypieces: I can't help you without more information (and I know nothing of the gui tools)09:37
intelikeyeeek i hate it when things wont die.     tty24 [root@~]  kill -9 75909:37
BluesKajDaSkreech: it just returns to root , no error message tho:)09:37
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  ps -A x | grep fuser09:37
intelikey  759 tty23    D+     0:00 fuser -k /dev/dsp09:37
DaSkreechcheesypieces: Have you looked in the forums?09:37
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Cross your fingers and reboot09:37
cheesypiecesDaSkreech: yes I have, nothing on there though09:38
h3sp4wncheesypieces: What interface is it using (i.e ath0 / wlan0 / eth1 ?) what chipset09:38
BluesKajhow can i reboot with crossed fingers? :)09:38
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BluesKajok , here goes DaSkreech09:38
cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: the interface is eth1, and its a broadcom 4306 card09:38
h3sp4wncheesypieces: And you installed the firmware ?09:39
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cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: yes, and the driver is listed as being there09:39
jameskillall konqueror works is that the best way and why does it happen?09:39
scoatesDaSkreech: hmm.. on a whim, I just killed kompmgr and sanity seems to have been restored09:39
h3sp4wncheesypieces: iwlist eth1 scan09:39
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Does that show the network ?09:39
DaSkreechscoates: :-) reminds me of this gam_server that went krazy on Ubuntu09:40
DaSkreechNo idea why09:40
cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: No scan results09:40
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h3sp4wncheesypieces: sudo ifconfig eth1 up09:40
h3sp4wncheesypieces: iwlist eth1 scan09:40
scoatesDaSkreech: well, I can live with killing kompmgr every 12-24h09:41
scoatesjust hate killing Xorg09:41
cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: unrecognised wireless command "up"09:41
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Have you explicitly installed the firmware ?09:42
DaSkreechscoates: I felt the same way about gam_server09:42
cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: yes I have, and its showing as a network connection09:42
DaSkreechhi  tackat09:42
scoatescool; thanks (-:09:42
cheesypiecesjust won't let me enable it09:42
DaSkreechcan the Kubuntu Live cd install into a LVM?09:43
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h3sp4wncheesypieces: http://pastebin.ca/25529709:44
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Try that in /etc/network/interfaces and run ifup eth109:44
jameshello DaSkreech can you have quick look and tell me if this is the best solution?09:44
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h3sp4wncheesypieces: But the fact its not appearing in the scan makes me think its not installed right09:45
jameskillall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom009:45
cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: do i just paste that into the konsole?09:45
intelikeywell that was different.   kill -9 -1 was = to ye ole hard reset button on the front of the case.....    that's not supposed to happen...09:45
jamesor anyone for that matter09:46
intelikeyjames i missed the questin ?09:46
DaSkreechjames: You can't eject the CD?09:47
DaSkreech It's on teh desktop?09:47
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jamesi have my system lock up when trying to eject the cd/dvd this is current solution "killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0"09:47
h3sp4wncheesypieces: edit /etc/network/interfaces (with any editor) if you need a graphical one run kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces09:47
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DaSkreechWhat errors is the command eject giving you?09:47
jamessomehow konqueror is being used even though i can not see it09:47
h3sp4wnkdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces09:48
h3sp4wn(easier if its on one line)09:48
intelikeyjames eject the device not the mountpoint.   yeah kioslaves09:48
jamessomething like device is busy09:48
DaSkreechjames: ah if that's so then killall konqueror would probably work09:48
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h3sp4wnkillall never seems to work right for me09:48
DaSkreechjames: sure you don't have any konsole's open where you cded in to the CD?09:48
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DaSkreechthat's the most complex question I've asked all week09:49
jamescertain09:49
eitch0000I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?09:49
cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: hmm those lines were already there09:49
intelikeywell it's official now.  this kernel is not compatable with fuser   (not a *buntu kernel)09:49
jameskillall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0                      works ok09:49
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jamesbut why does konqueror grab on in the first place09:50
DaSkreechjames: cheers!09:50
james???09:50
confuscoSomebody help, I uninstalled an nvidia driver and then reinstalled nvidia-glx, and now it's giving me:           dlopen: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so, (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7), FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory, (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA ker09:50
DaSkreechit's not supposed to. This happens all the time?09:50
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Implies the firmware might be not loaded right09:50
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cheesypiecesh3sp4wn: ok, I'll try it again09:51
cheesypiecesthanks for your help09:51
intelikeyjames it's a failed linux attempt at acting like M$  so that if you insert a disk it runs things automatically.  i hate it.   never did like it in M$.  always disabled it there and sure don't want it here.09:51
jamesso what is best my solution or ...?09:52
intelikeybut it's "just what everyone wants"09:52
h3sp4wncheesypieces: Generally strange as it may sound ndiswrapper works better with broadcom cards than the native driver (which is reverse engineered)09:52
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intelikeyjames i don't mess with kde enough to even guess what to do to just disable auto insert notifications  so i'll have to let someone else answer howto fix it.09:53
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jamesauto insert notifations are already off i am pretty sure09:54
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intelikeysetting preferances to not display mounted disks on the desktop might work.09:54
intelikeyidk09:54
jameshmm09:55
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jamesthanks09:58
Amaranthintelikey: You made ubotu cry. :(09:58
intelikeyAmaranth well why is there no infonode on automounting ?09:58
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Amaranth!mount09:59
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks09:59
Amaranthack, that's old09:59
Amaranththere used to be09:59
DaSkreech!qtparted09:59
ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB09:59
intelikeynothing to do with that tho09:59
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intelikeynot fstab  but the borked CD automounting process10:00
intelikeyand howto turn it off ^10:00
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eitch0000I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?10:00
h3sp4wnAlmost as useless as the ipv6 factoid which tells you nothing of how to use it only how to disable it10:01
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intelikeyyeah and ?10:01
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DaSkreechIf anyone sees sabdfl can you just poke me I gotta question for him10:02
intelikeywhen the question is "how do you stop it from doing *" the factoid doesnt need to be about how to use.....10:02
intelikeyDaSkreech /msg memoserv help10:03
h3sp4wn!ipv610:03
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv410:03
DaSkreechDoh Memoserv10:03
DaSkreech /msg memoserv help10:03
h3sp4wnJust how to disable it nothing about how to use it - If all people want to do is disable it why not disable it by default10:03
intelikeyh3sp4wn yeah i agree with the "by default" idea.  but not everyone does.10:04
intelikeyso why not a factoid for howto use and one for howto disable10:04
intelikeyor both on one wiki page and a factoid that likes there10:05
DaSkreechtackat: how are you?10:05
h3sp4wnDefinately10:05
intelikey"likes" hehhe what wasi thinking....10:05
DaSkreechintelikey: likes is aceptable :)10:06
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tackatDaSkreech: fine10:06
intelikeylinks was intended tho10:06
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tackatDaSkreech: currently trying to find out how to retrieve svg flags from Wikipedia best10:06
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intelikeywell fuser is hung again.   anyone got a clue what might have been missing im my kernel for fuser to always hang ?10:07
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intelikeyi mean it's locked up tight.   root kill -9 wont budge it.10:08
intelikey^C  no affect.10:08
h3sp4wnintelikey: On dapper ?10:08
intelikeyyep10:09
h3sp4wnso upstart cannot be blamed - hmmm10:09
intelikeyhome grown kernel.10:09
h3sp4wnwhat version ?10:10
intelikey2.6.15*10:10
DaSkreechtackat: hacking at knowledge?10:10
h3sp4wnCan't think of how that could be broken10:10
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intelikeyLinux zeos486 2.6.15.464 #10 Fri Oct 27 06:57:44 CDT 2006 i586 GNU/Linux10:10
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Werzi2001hi@ll10:12
Werzi2001i have a strange problem with amarok...10:12
intelikeywell i can't umount /proc either    it seems that fuser is accessing something in /proc/*   what i do not know.10:12
Werzi2001i can just select folders in /home and /media for my collection :(10:13
wilmanhow can i get my macromedia sound to work?10:13
wilmanit worked for one time but then i could not run music10:13
intelikey!hidden | Werzi200110:13
ubotuWerzi2001: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles10:13
DaSkreech!hidden | Werzi200110:13
DaSkreechStop it! :( :-p10:13
Werzi2001ah ok :)10:13
Werzi2001thx a lot10:13
Werzi2001bye10:13
intelikey!flash9 | wilman10:13
ubotuwilman: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html10:13
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velleis there a keyboard shortcut for opening the KDE menu?10:16
DaSkreechAlt=F110:16
DaSkreechAlt+F110:16
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Hey!10:17
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BluesKajDaSkreech: ok the edgy partition is recognized , but : "unable to execute //sbin/logd, fr logd: no such file or directory"10:20
DaSkreechBluesKaj: mount the drive and check if it's there10:20
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BluesKajDaSkreech: I'm looking in Q-Parted and the drive is listed as : /dev/hda3 ext210:23
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DaSkreechIs it supposed to be ext2?10:24
BluesKajwell, windows is listed as ntfs above it10:25
BluesKajshould i try to mount it had3 in Q-Parted ?10:25
BluesKajerr hda10:26
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BluesKajDaSkreech: "mount: can't find dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"10:29
DaSkreechBluesKaj: do the same thing you did before10:30
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DaSkreech mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive10:30
BluesKajok DaSkreech, done10:31
intelikeyif drive exists that will fail   s/&&/;/10:31
apallowhat is the wine command to make it fix the shortcuts?10:31
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ls -l drive/sbin/logd10:31
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DaSkreechintelikey: Live CD10:31
DaSkreechstrong likely hood it doesn't10:31
janekhi guys, pls help me install msttcorefonts, i have pure new edgy and im getting error from sourceforge :(10:32
intelikeyDaSkreech "do the same thing you did before"    i don't know if that was preboot or not.10:32
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DaSkreechintelikey: preboot he just logged in but good observation thanks ;)10:32
BluesKajDaSkreech:  ls: drive/sbin/logd: No such file or directory10:32
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: ls -l /sbin/logd10:33
DaSkreechintelikey: something deleted a bunch of executables from BluesKaj /sbin folder10:33
intelikeyDaSkreech forced fsck ?   while mounted will do such things.     bad use of root mixed with file manager     typo with sudo..... ?10:34
BluesKajDaSkreech: " -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26624 2006-10-10 10:42 /sbin/logd" ... the /sbin/logd is in green in the console10:35
janekhad any1 problems with msttcorefonts ?10:35
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BluesKajwhatever that means10:35
janeksourceforge timeout10:36
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intelikeyDaSkreech package manager go down with it.    check if the executables are missing or whole packages that contain them.    just some thoughts on the issue.   i'll go back to my kernel issue now.10:36
tibonehi10:36
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: can you tell me if ls drive/sbin/logd shows anything?10:37
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BluesKajDaSkreech: ls: drive/sbin/logd: No such file or directory10:38
DaSkreechBluesKaj: can you tell me if ls drive/sbin/ shows anything? Soryr about that10:38
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Bubba_Gumpwho is deb?10:38
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BluesKajNP DaSkreech , i appreciate the help and efforts :)10:38
DaSkreechYeah But I gotta be running soon so time is short :010:39
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BluesKajyeah, looks like i'm gonna have to reinstall , DaSkreech10:39
janekbig problem msttcorefonts package :)10:39
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: there is nothing in there>10:39
DaSkreech!fonts10:40
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto10:40
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer10:40
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DaSkreechjanek: ^^^10:40
janekthanks, but i specify my problem..10:40
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janeki cant instal msttcorefonts package, because sourceforge times me out, in fact its only configuring package its already installed10:41
DaSkreechBluesKaj: there is nothing in the folder?10:41
BluesKajno10:41
DaSkreechjanek: Why are you getting it from sourceforge?10:41
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velleis there an anual Kubuntu conference or something?10:41
janeki'll PM u what i get, i dont want flood here10:42
DaSkreechjanek: Gotta run. I'm sorry10:42
DaSkreechI'm late as it is10:42
janekDaSkreech: np bye10:42
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BluesKajok DaSkreech, thx10:42
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Is there anything in the folder?10:43
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DaSkreechOh you said no10:43
BluesKajDaSkreech: no10:43
DaSkreechHmm10:43
DaSkreechBluesKaj: ls drive/bin10:43
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Cosmonaut3030Hello.10:44
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Anything in there?10:44
BluesKajDaSkreech:  a whole list of stuff there10:44
Cosmonaut3030I am having trouble with dcop, I am SSHing into my Kubuntu box, and cannot access dcop. is this normal?10:44
BluesKaja bunch of stuff in red, DaSkreech10:45
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: sudo cp /sbin/* drive/sbin/10:45
DaSkreechBluesKaj: sudo cp -R /sbin/* drive/sbin/10:45
Cosmonaut3030Is there anyone here who could help me?10:45
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DaSkreech!anyone10:46
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:46
DaSkreechOh wiat you did10:46
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Cosmonaut3030Lol.10:46
Cosmonaut3030Don't worry about it.10:46
DaSkreechBluesKaj: try that and then reboot10:46
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DaSkreechI gotta g10:46
Cosmonaut3030I am having trouble with dcop, I am SSHing into my Kubuntu box, and cannot access dcop. is this normal?10:46
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aseigoCosmonaut3030: yes. it's to prevent hijacking of desktop sessions.10:47
Cosmonaut3030:(10:47
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Cosmonaut3030Damn. What am I supposed to do?10:47
BluesKajok DaSkreech, will do , thx10:47
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Cosmonaut3030Say @10:47
Cosmonaut3030Sorry.10:47
DaSkreechaseigo: Heya :)10:48
aseigoheya10:48
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Cosmonaut3030Is there any way to set dcop to be usable through SSH?10:49
DaSkreechjanek: you can apt-get install it you know that?10:49
Jucatoaseigo: hi! you're in India right now?10:50
flaccidCosmonaut3030: google gives results on it10:50
aseigoJucato: as i type, yes =)10:50
Cosmonaut3030flaccid: Thanks.10:50
Jucatoaseigo: oh nice :)10:50
DaSkreechjanek: you have to install it from multiverse10:50
flaccidCosmonaut3030: just set the DISPLAY variable before starting dcop: eg. ssh me@distant.compter.far "DISPLAY=:0 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop amarok ..."  <-- thats what it says10:50
DaSkreech!info msttcorefonts | janek10:50
ubotumsttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB10:51
DaSkreech!multiverse > janek10:51
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aseigoJucato: just got in a few hours ago10:52
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aseigowell. 1.5 hours ago10:52
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warngj10:52
janekDaSkreech: i know im installing via apt them..10:52
Jucatoaseigo: oh. then it's probably just dawn around there right now? (the sun's just rising over here)10:52
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aseigoJucato: it's 3:30am.10:53
Jucatoaseigo: oh ok. well, don't let me keep you from your shower and your much needed/deserved sleep :)10:53
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Jucatogood luck with foss.in :)10:54
janekDaSkreech: package is installed but then it connects to source forge for some .exe's10:54
aseigothanks =)10:54
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BluesKajDaSkreech, success!!!10:56
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ryanakcaI ran dpkg --get-selections... it created the file "dpkgselections"... what do I do now with the file?11:09
h3sp4wnryanakca: What are you trying to do ?11:09
ryanakcah3sp4wn: oh, about 2 months ago, when I completly whiped my system and reinstalled edgy, I created the file...11:10
ryanakcaI forget what to do now to restore the packages...11:10
Jucatodpkg --set-selections11:10
ryanakcaI kindof procrastinated?11:11
ryanakcaJucato: I don't think it's normal for it to run for about 30 minutes and counting?11:11
h3sp4wnaptitude install can be used with xargs from those lists11:11
Jucatohmm..11:11
ryanakcaand how does it know what file? you can choose whatever name for the file...11:11
Jucatoif the list was gotten from Dapper, it won't work on Edgy, afaik...11:11
ryanakcaJucato: no, not from dapper, edgy11:12
Jucatohm...11:12
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ryanakcaI dist-upgraded from dapper early august... aka, 3-4 months ago :)11:12
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h3sp4wnryanakca: cat dpkgselections | awk '{print $1}' | xargs aptitude install11:14
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ryanakcakk11:16
ryanakcaty11:16
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BluesKajDaSkreech ! you There ?11:16
ryanakcah3sp4wn: wait... '{print $1}'... won't that just print the first collumn?11:17
ryanakcah3sp4wn: because some apps are to install and others remove...11:17
h3sp4wnryanakca: I thought you wanted to put everything back from that file11:17
ryanakcah3sp4wn: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/dpkgselections11:17
ryanakcah3sp4wn: precisely11:17
h3sp4wnaccess forbidden11:18
ryanakcarefresh, sorry11:18
h3sp4wnstill forbidden11:19
ryanakcaodd, I 777'd it...11:19
h3sp4wnIf its not the first column with the packagename use $2 or whatever11:19
ryanakcaI can see it fine11:19
ryanakcano...11:19
h3sp4wnxargs passes it through to aptitude11:19
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ryanakcahit ctrl-f5 or whatever it is to refresh the cache...11:20
ryanakcahttp://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/dpkgselection11:20
h3sp4wnryanakca: ok11:20
ryanakcabbl, supper11:20
h3sp4wnryanakca: cat dpkgselections | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v deinstall | xargs aptitude install11:21
ryanakcah3sp4wn: any suggestions, /msg if you wish11:21
icheynewhat's the best simple little mp3 player? I just want something to start quickly when I click on a file - not wait ages for amarok. Something like Foobar for Windows.11:21
LjLicheyne: what about xmms?11:22
icheyneI use Juk mostly, but something when I click on single mp3s would be good11:22
icheyneLjL, OK I'll give that a go. Isn't there one called beep? Isn't that better?11:22
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LjLicheyne: beep media player - it uses the Gnome libraries i think. i was suggesting XMMS because i think it only uses GTK and nothing else, so should be relatively fast to start up11:22
h3sp4wnbeep is unmaintained11:23
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icheynexmms it is11:23
icheynethanks guys11:23
h3sp4wnuse moc11:23
icheynemoc?11:23
h3sp4wnexecutable mocp11:23
h3sp4wn!info moc11:23
ubotumoc: ncurses based console audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 548 kB11:23
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icheyneh3sp4wn, I've already got it11:24
icheynethanks!11:24
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ryanakcah3sp4wn: Jucato: found something simpler: One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade".11:37
h3sp4wnryanakca: As usual dpkg knows all11:38
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ryanakcah3sp4wn: yep...11:38
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=== ryanakca had done it in the past, and it had been simple... just didn't remember it...
h3sp4wnThat is the type of stuff it would be useful for ubotu to have11:39
ryanakcayeah11:39
ryanakcawell, I can alwais submit it to him :)11:40
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ryanakcato it*... doing that now :)11:40
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h3sp4wnI suppose change debian to ubuntu - but then I suppose it constitutes direct plagurism11:40
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ryanakcayeah...11:41
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confuscoanybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows11:42
h3sp4wnIts the knowledge though not the software (the software is blootbot)11:42
ryanakcayeah11:42
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rolandohi11:44
rolandois there any tool to recover a file i just deleted?11:44
Jucatonot if you deleted it using "rm" or if you emptied the trash can11:45
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LjL!backup | ryanakca, h3sp4wn11:45
uboturyanakca, h3sp4wn: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning11:45
LjL!cloning11:45
ubotuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"11:45
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rolandobut Jucato in windows you can11:46
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confuscoanybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows11:46
Jucatorolando: Linux doesn't use Windows filesystems, right?11:46
teledynevery time i put a CD/DVD in the drive it automounts it.  how do i prevent this?11:46
ryanakcaLjL: ah, so we have a (almost direct) copy of dpkg's clone factoid11:46
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LjLryanakca: since 30 seconds, yes11:46
bimberi!-cloning11:46
ubotucloning has no aliases - added by LjL on 2006-11-22 23:45:3011:46
ryanakcalol11:46
bimberi:)11:47
Jucatohm... never knew about the !-factoid command...11:47
Jucato!-uuid11:47
ubotuuuid has no aliases - added by Jucato on 2006-10-30 12:22:3911:47
Jucatoyay :P11:47
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ryanakcauuid... isn't that the newfangled thing for fstab because of some messed up motherboards?11:47
Jucatoyeah11:48
ryanakcaI remember it showing up in #kubuntu-devel a long time ago....11:48
FFForeverhow can i reenable the root login at the login screen?11:48
LjLFFForever: don't, it's extremely dangerous.11:48
ryanakcabbl11:48
FFForeveri know11:48
LjLUbotu, please tell FFForever about sudo | FFForever, you have a private message from Ubotu11:48
FFForeveri know about sudo11:48
JucatoFFForever: read the page before you react11:48
Jucatoit has instructions on what you want11:49
FFForeveri know sudo...., but when i get the login screen i want to login as root11:49
JucatoFFForever: did you already read that page that was PM'd to you?11:50
FFForeveryeah....11:50
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FFForeveri know about what to do and not do in root and how it can kill my system but there are times i just have to login as root to fix things11:50
Jucatothen you should already know that there's a section in that page about Enabling graphical root login11:50
LjLFFForever, that page also explains what you asked for. read. it.11:51
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FFForeveropps i missed that part11:51
FFForeveri kinda skimed it11:51
bobbydih11:51
Jucatodidn't I tell you to read and that it has what you wanted?11:51
bobbydwhat's the standard way to view free disk space in KDE?11:51
FFForeverdose kubuntu come with gdm?11:51
JucatoFFForever: kdm11:51
mf_debiandf -h11:51
FFForevererrrrr, how can i have kubuntu with gdm?11:52
Jucatobobbyd: if you want a GUI for it, install filelight11:52
JucatoFFForever: do you really read?11:52
FFForeveryeah i see where it says to reenable the root login....11:52
mf_debianJucato - filelight is really useful, i love that app11:52
JucatoFFForever: there are instructions for KDE11:52
Jucatomf_debian: same here. it's just annoying that it crashes on exit. harmless but annoying11:53
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FFForeverok :D, one last question, i was on gentoo :D but now im on a laptop and a source distro is not to nice on a laptop :(, how hard will it be to get wmv's and mp3's to play in firefox/amarok11:53
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Xal2not hard at all11:54
arrautzahi11:54
Xal2Well, I use Kaffeine for video.11:54
FFForeverbrb :)11:54
d03boyi just installed dapper on my laptop. I need to get wireless working. where do I start11:54
arrautzawhat is canonical suport??11:54
Xal2libxine-extracodecs is the package you'll need for windows codecs.11:54
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bobbydmf_debian: there's no GUI tool for viewing free disk space? (filelight is something different, I just wasnt a single figure for each mount)11:54
bobbydd03boy: do lspci and see what the hardware is11:55
Xal2d03boy: if you use WPA, you should use ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant. I didn't have much success with Kubuntu's built in driver.11:55
Jucatobobbyd: right-click on an empty space, select Properties, and look near the bottom of the dialog box11:55
Jucatobobbyd: shows where it's mounted, and how much free space is available11:56
bobbydJucato: cool :)11:56
d03boyi use wep11:56
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d03boyNetwork controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)11:56
Xal2Did Kubuntu detect your wireless card?11:56
d03boyi dont know11:57
FFForeverbk11:57
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FFForeveri like totem player11:57
d03boytotem sucks11:57
FFForeverno11:57
bobbydd03boy: look under k->internet->wireless lan assistant11:57
kristyonanyone using a serial mouse here???11:57
FFForeveris there linva for ubuntu?11:57
nukubobbyd: you could also try kdf as some simple kde df replacement11:58
kristyonwhat linva?11:58
Xal2Oh come on, they're just media players.11:58
d03boyMy card does not seem to be detected....11:58
FFForeverlinva is a package respority11:58
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d03boyor else its just not working11:58
FFForevercan apt-get install vlc player?11:58
mf_debianbobbyd - yeah , getting carried away there, nothing that shows the equivalent of a df -h11:58
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kristyonanyone using serial mouse or serial device using m$ protocol??11:59
Jucato!vlc | FFForever11:59
ubotuFFForever: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:59
FFForeveri use a usb wireless mouse11:59
Jucatoouch wrong one11:59
Xal2That's what I use, VLC11:59
LjL!info vlc11:59
Jucato!info vlc | FFForever11:59
kristyonubuntu has bug with mice but cant fix it11:59
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB11:59
Jucatohehe LjL beat me to it :)11:59
FFForevercan vlc play inside firefox?, lol11:59
LjLFFForever: think there is a plugin12:00
d03boyi think so12:00
kristyonoh dear12:00
FFForeverno?12:00
Xal2I think it can.12:00
LjL!info mozilla-plugin-vlc12:00
ubotumozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB12:00
d03boyhow do I get this wireless hardware to wrok12:00
d03boywrok12:00
d03boywrk12:00
d03boyafjafkljasfkljkljkl WORK12:00
FFForeverdamn ubuntu kicks ass over fedora12:00
FFForeverlol12:00
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FFForeveri still like gentoo thoe :D12:00
FFForeverwhat version of firefox dose kubuntu come with 1.5?12:00
kristyonserial mouse fix anyone?12:00
nathanis there an automatix for kubuntu 6.10?12:01
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d03boyi just tried gentoo and whenever I rebooted it would destroy journallying12:01
LjLFFForever: Dapper comes with 1.5, Edgy with 2.012:01
kristyonnathan, yes12:01
LjL!automatix | nathan12:01
ubotunathan: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.12:01
kristyonworks great here, and on another 3 systems i know of12:01
d03boyinstalling BCM4309 wireless card. how?12:01
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FFForeverbcm43xx is EASY with the .18 kernel12:02
FFForever:D12:02
nathanwhat I am after is some of the stuff that it provides... Is there an alternative other than manual install12:02
LjL!easyubuntu | perhaps12:02
ubotuperhaps: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu12:02
kristyoneasyubuntu12:02
d03boywell I only have .1512:02
LjLbut manual install isn't that hard12:02
d03boybecause thats what dapper comes with12:02
h3sp4wnFFForever: The softmac version of bcm43xx will always suck12:02
confuscoanybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows12:02
FFForeverwhat kernel dose the new kubuntu come with12:03
FFForeveri have 2hours left on my dl12:03
LjLFFForever: 2.6.1712:03
Jucatoon Edgy12:03
LjLhe said the *new* kubuntu :)12:03
d03boyso how do I get teh bcm43xx shit to work on dapper12:03
Xal2I use ndiswrapper.12:03
FFForeverthe newest kernel (or was a few weeks ago) was .18rc512:03
h3sp4wnd03boy: best version is the devicescape version in the wireless-dev git repository12:03
d03boywell that seems too complicated12:04
confuscod03boy, what have you tried?12:04
LjLFFForever: you'll never get that in Ubuntu i think. Edgy ships with 2.6.17, and i guess Feisty will ship with 2.6.1912:04
d03boyi have tried asking about it here12:04
h3sp4wnFFForever: 2.6.19-rc6 I think is the newest12:04
Xal2linux requires some research.12:04
d03boyive tried stuff on other distros12:04
FFForeverthe .18 kernel makes it really easy :)12:04
d03boyndiswrapper has worked for me in the past but I'd like premiscuious mode or whatever12:04
FFForeverjust cut the firmware and yeah :)12:04
h3sp4wnI think its the same on 2.6.1712:05
FFForever17 gave me probs12:05
Xal2uh, premiscuous? lol12:05
h3sp4wnAnd there is still the fact that broadcom radio's suck12:05
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FFForeverno the raido isnt that bad acctualy12:06
FFForeveri pick up things my M$ cant12:06
h3sp4wnFFForever: Compare it to a decent atheros12:06
Xal2Lol12:06
h3sp4wnFFForever: They bleed too much into other channels12:06
confuscohttp://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw/bcm43xx-firmware/bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb try this12:06
Xal2Microsoft makes wireless networking devices?12:06
FFForeverthey did12:06
FFForevermy router is made my M$12:06
FFForeverthey stoped thoe lol12:07
Xal2Ah right12:07
Xal2I have a broadcom in my laptop. The range isn't great.12:07
h3sp4wnFFForever: if its an MN-700 you can j-tag it and install openwrt12:07
FFForeverwhat laptop do u got?12:07
Xal2Compaq Presario R400012:07
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FFForeveri got a v200012:07
FFForeverit sucks lol damn amd12:07
Xal2I've had mine for a year. I'm happy with it. It's just a bit heavy for a laptop.12:08
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intelikeyis  linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 buggy ?12:08
FFForeverhey is it me or is it the damn presarios after a year the batery life cut in half12:08
Xal2Not sure12:09
confuscodo you keep it charged all the time?12:09
UnDeR|CoVeRhi guys! i got a prob.... i used this read me --> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL <---- and now i have some probs12:09
FFForeveri use to have a 2h life12:09
Xal2That's what I get out of it.12:09
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FFForevernow evertyhing starts going ur almost out of power at 45mins12:09
UnDeR|CoVeRi did everything that it asked for even the last script for gnomw12:09
confuscoif you have it plugged in and charged at 100% all the time, that kills li-ion12:09
UnDeR|CoVeRgnome12:09
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UnDeR|CoVeRand when i try to log in with an xgl session it jams12:09
Xal2confusco shit, lol12:10
confusco:)12:10
confuscoit's true12:10
confuscobest % of charge to keep li-ion is at 40%12:10
Xal2If the battery is full, why doesn't power go "around" the battery?12:10
confuscoit does, basically..12:10
confuscojust li-ion doesn't like to be stored at 100%12:10
Xal2Oh, it just doesn't like the 100%12:10
Xal2:(12:11
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FFForeveri only got 3batteys :)12:11
d03boythey should just give you 140% battery life then12:11
confuscoa heads up for you. if you want long life, store at 40% and only at 100% when you actually want to use it12:11
Xal2yeah ,lol12:11
Xal2I use it all the time.12:11
FFForevernow they tell me...12:11
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UnDeR|CoVeRanyone?12:11
FFForeverim on my laptop 24/712:11
confuscod03boy.12:11
FFForeverexcept when its fucked up like it is now12:11
UnDeR|CoVeRhow do i at least install nvidia card drivers?12:12
FFForeversome dumbass kicked it...12:12
confuscodid you get my message12:12
d03boythe .deb file?12:12

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