[12:13] <unix_infidel> Anyone know of a command to purge /tmp of all files not using an active socket?
[12:13] <unix_infidel> Other than reboot :P
[12:16] <k_osh> you guys great with raid and lvm? first raid, then lvm. correct? can I put /boot on an lvm or does it need to be on its own partition?
[12:17] <k_osh> unix_infidel: find /tmp -atime -something -exec rm [} \;  <- or somethign.
[12:18] <unix_infidel> k_osh: that doesnt mean it doesnt have an active socket or isnt being used by some parent PDI
[12:18] <unix_infidel> PID*
[12:19] <k_osh> unix_infidel: I'm thinking that if it's not being accessed it's not very active...
[12:20] <globe> I am getting the error "could not start kstartupconfig" from my newly installed kde session, and KDE will not start.  Anybody want to help me get to the bottom of this?
[12:31] <snowice> can not play flac files with amarok 1.4.4
[12:37] <snowice> does universe get any security updates at all?
[12:41] <Raven301> I install edgy on my other computer ... did the login name and password ... but when I try to login it says login failed ... is there a way to get the info or setup another name in edgy??
[12:41] <mnoir> I doubt that this answer is going to be very satisfying - universe is a sub category in many repositories.  in the security repository there are can be updates marked universe.  I think this means the answer to the question you may have asked is yes - now would you care to form another question.
[12:42] <pi1l> can anybody please tell me, how i can tell system, that system clock must show local, not grinwich time?
[12:42] <mnoir> !time
[12:42] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[12:42] <Raven301> How can I get my password back on edgy or setup another name and password?
[12:42] <mnoir> sorry
[12:42] <mnoir> !local time
[12:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about local time - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <mnoir> the answer I am looking for is yer hw clock should be in gmt and yer screen should say the local time
[12:46] <snowice> it's just a bit confusing, in the default sources.list it says that universe does NOT get any updates, but then a bit below, there is a commmented deb line for security updates
[12:47] <pi1l> mnoir, that is, i need to set hw clock to local, as well as screen
[12:47] <mnoir> sec
[12:52] <pi1l> well, i found and applied this command: hwclock --adjust --localtime. seems to do the thing, but still will be waiting to see what happens after reboot
[12:54] <mnoir> I am too - I think there is somewhere in your system that expects the hwclock to be UTC (GMT is not used anymore :) )
[12:54] <mnoir> or at least the name is deprecated...
[12:57] <snowice> does anyone get amarok to play flac files?
[12:58] <milaks> How can I plase Icons: Home and Trash visible on Desktop? If I drag icon Home from panel to desktop it is copied (because if I do that again I get warning about replacing) but its not visible.
[01:00] <milaks> Anyone?
[01:00] <Bubba_Gump> milaks: works for me
[01:00] <BDDF> snowice : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1252222
[01:00] <Bubba_Gump> open konqueror and click and drag, the home icon, onto your desktop, then, click, link here
[01:01] <milaks> BDDF: Can you please give me the listing (on private because of floog protection) of yours ~/Deskop/Home.desktop?
[01:02] <james> i have 2 questions about networking : anyone game ?
[01:02] <snowice> BDDF: thanks, but that one is for dapper and libxine 1.1.1
[01:03] <BDDF> snowice : edgy?
[01:03] <snowice> BDDF, yes, I'm running edgy
[01:05] <james> I have a question about settings on a remote networked printer can anyone help?
[01:06] <BDDF> snowice : seems there are problems with id3 tag flac files
[01:07] <BDDF> problem is with xine
[01:07] <BDDF> snowice: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[01:07] <axa-axa> Can someone please give me the listing (on private because of floog protection) of his/hers ~/Deskop/Home.desktop?
[01:09] <snowice> BDDF, no it seems to be unavailable in my repositories
[01:12] <BDDF> snowice : enable multiverse repositories
[01:12] <BDDF> it's in there
[01:12] <snowice> BDDF, ok, I'll try that
[01:12] <BDDF> some people seem to say it could be a problem with the actual flac files with id3 tags
[01:12] <xabbott> Hello, was wondering. How to do get alt+f1-12,etc,(terminal) to work in Kubuntu? Whenever I try it I just get the splash screen.
[01:13] <BDDF> xine barfs on them ... but files with id3 stripped are no problem
[01:14] <BDDF> xabbot : do you mean ctrl-alt-f1?
[01:14] <xabbott> yea
[01:14] <xabbott> it takes me out of x
[01:14] <BDDF> you said alt-f1
[01:14] <BDDF> it is ctrl-alt-f1
[01:14] <xabbott> but all i get is that text mode kubuntu splash screen
[01:15] <xabbott> No I meant ctrl-alt (sorry)
[01:15] <xabbott> Do I have to uninstall that splash screen?
[01:16] <xabbott> I had to do that for one distro I tried. Just wondering if there was another way.
[01:16] <BDDF> how do you start X?
[01:17] <BDDF> is it through KDM?
[01:17] <xabbott> uh, i boot into it. into kdm.
[01:17] <xabbott> yea
[01:17] <BDDF> and from there you get what when ctrl-alt-f2
[01:17] <snowice> BDDF, thanks, flac files play fine now, I also read that it's fixed in cvs
[01:17] <xabbott> well from there, or even after i log into a session
[01:17] <BDDF> snowice: coo
[01:18] <xabbott> i try to ctrl+alt f1/2 and all i get is the text mode splash screen
[01:18] <BDDF> what is "text mode splash screen"
[01:18] <BDDF> a login prompt?
[01:19] <xabbott> no
[01:20] <xabbott> the screen you see during boot
[01:20] <xabbott> usplash or whatever
[01:20] <BDDF> what version?
[01:20] <BDDF> edgy? dapper?
[01:21] <|kkathman|> can someone please tell me how to get a previous version of mplayer (specfically the 3.25 version) instead of the current 3.31 ?
[01:22] <xabbott> edgy
[01:22] <Benner> hi, i installed kubuntu 6.10 yesturday, after installing the fglrx ati drivers, when it boot, it seem to be in the correct resolution and everything looks fine, i can see my desktop and icons, but all the fonts are REALLY big (a letter is almost the screen) so i can't go anywhere, i rebooted in recovery mode, startx and the fonts are ok and everything runs fine.. but not when it's loaded by grub.. any clues?
[01:22] <lunitik> |kkathman|: umm.... mplayer is at version 1.something
[01:23] <Benner> i don't want to start a debate today :) (lunitik will remembre)
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> lunitik: it's not even actually at 1, it's pre1
[01:23] <|kkathman|> sorry the mplayer plug in
[01:23] <BDDF> xabbot : what video card?
[01:23] <|kkathman|> i.e. mozilla-mplayer
[01:24] <xabbott> ati 850xt pro
[01:24] <lunitik> Benner: haha.... sorry about that... that was annoying....
[01:24] <ademan> when i try and run enemy territory it crashes and sends me back to the gdm login screen  (this problem seems to be Desktop Environment agnostic so i figured it was worth asking in here as well)
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> Benner: might want to turn off framebuffer
[01:24] <BDDF> xabbott : which driver?
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> !framebuffer | Benner
[01:24] <ubotu> Benner: If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[01:24] <lunitik> Benner: but yeah... I'm not entirely sure what might be wrong with the font thing... have you tried to navigate through KControl though?
[01:24] <BDDF> fglrx?
[01:24] <|kkathman|> the mplayer plugin 3.31 has some problems with playing several formats, that 3.25 doesnt
[01:25] <xabbott> yea, but even when i use the default ati drivers i get the same thing
[01:25] <lunitik> LeeJunFan: fglrx kernel module uses a fb ...
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> lunitik: you can still turn it off. I don't use it.
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> set vga=normal in bootparams
[01:25] <lunitik> LeeJunFan: By default it will load the fb module (fbcon)
[01:26] <Benner> framebuffer? hmm doesnt tell me nothing.. i can click on the menu (like start of windows) but i cant see nothing cause it's too big.. i cant even go into konsole ;(
[01:26] <Benner> 2sec i'm coming back
[01:26] <lunitik> LeeJunFan: For FGLRX?
[01:26] <LeeJunFan> yeah
[01:26] <kestas_> can somone tell me what to do if my webcam is too dark
[01:26] <kestas_> and blue
[01:26] <lunitik> LeeJunFan: What gains do you get by turning off the fb?
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> lsmod | grep fb comes up blank here. compiled my own kernel w/o framebuffers, and installed ATI's drivers.
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> lunitik: having a stable system. :p
[01:27] <BDDF> xabbott : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1782644
[01:27] <BDDF> some removed usplash from grub
[01:27] <lunitik> LeeJunFan: Mine is stable  *shrug*
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> lunitik: I've never had anything but headaches from framebuffer.
[01:27] <BDDF> but then no splash at boot, but virtual X works again
[01:27] <BDDF> :(
[01:28] <LeeJunFan> yeah, the splash uses the frambuffer.
[01:29] <lunitik> Radeon Xpress 200G
[01:29] <LeeJunFan> Just one of those things I guess, I don't think I've had a single system that framebuffer hasn't screwed up the ability to switch back and forth between X and virtual cons.
[01:30] <kestas_> how do you change driver settings (spca5xx)
[01:30] <jamaur> can anyone help me set up a logitech quickcam?  lsusb gives me "Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:08f6 Logitech, Inc.", which is good, but camorama tells me there's no camera...
[01:30] <lunitik> jamaur: its not necissarily good just because the kernel can see it.....
[01:31] <lunitik> jamaur: google 'logitech quickcam linux' see what module you need
[01:31] <LeeJunFan> jamaur: http://www.google.com/search?q=ID+046d%3A08f6+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[01:32] <gtwy> soo it seems the default repositories do not hold a lot of good software... does anyone know which respositories i should use to install apps like kismet ?
[01:32] <kestas_> does anyone know how to change driver settings?
[01:32] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: you have to do that with the applicatino that uses it, OR module options.
[01:32] <gtwy> i said that wrong, they hold good software, but there is a lot of good software missing
[01:33] <jamaur> lunitik: thanks, I'll see if the quickcan express driver does the trick
[01:33] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: you can get a list of options available for the module by running 'modinfo spca5xx' in konsole.
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: normally if you don't know what you're doing with mod options and how to set them in /etc/modprobe.d files then it should be left up to the application to make the adjustments you need (if at all possible).
[01:34] <kestas_> thanx
[01:34] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: I have the same camera in my sager laptop it works fine w/o changing module settings, what's up with yours?
[01:34] <kestas_> LeeJunFan, for some reason most of the webcam preview programs view the webcam in a blue color
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: well, I should say I have A camera that uses the same module.
[01:35] <kestas_> LeeJunFan, and it is much too dark
[01:35] <Benner> ok sorry i am back... so what's about those framebuffer... i can do anything in the recovery mode and start xwindow by startx.. but if i lood by the default by grub it's load, but not even able to read due to the giant fonts..
[01:35] <kestas_> LeeJunFan, i just want to make it brighter becuase with mplayer it looks alright
[01:35] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: I've noticed that this cam seems to need a lot of light. To be honest I've never used it in windows so I don't know what to compare it to.
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: yeah, mine looks blue too now that you mention it.
[01:37] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: It didn't before, but then I have a new "white light" here at my desk that's not a soft white light.
[01:38] <snowice> does webcam plugin work in kopete? my preview is all dark
[01:38] <LeeJunFan> snowice: with yahoo and msn only.
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> snowice: but yes, if your cam is recognized and supported by linux then it should work in kopete.
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> !webcam
[01:39] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:40] <Benner> i don't think it's a framebuffer problem because all the desktop is fully nice appeared, but only the fonts in the xwindow are too big, so i can't do nothings. just like i changed a them or something..
[01:40] <snowice> LeeJunFan, my webcam is recognized by kopete, it's just the preview that is all screwed up, which other program can I use to test the webcam?
[01:41] <LeeJunFan> snowice: not sure, mplayer or kaffeine? I know VLC supports webcam (v4l - video for linux).
[01:42] <TheMole> snowice: Try camorama
[01:44] <snowice> thanks, I'll give it a try
[01:44] <Aondo> i had a hardtime with my web cam, with the kernel in edgy, dont know why, but my solution was to create my own kernel. even tho the webcam has been working without problem on a much older than edgy's incuded one.
[01:44] <Benner> lunitik: are you still there?
[01:49] <TheMole> Aondo: What webcam do you have?
[01:50] <lunitik> Benner: yup... wassup?
[01:50] <Aondo> TheMole  Logitech, Inc. QuickCam 3000 Pro
[01:51] <TheMole> Ahhh, yeh I've heard of people with problems iwth the pro quickcams
[01:52] <Aondo> there is no real problem with the kernel it self i think, since well... it's been working a long time befor edgy hehe
[01:52] <Aondo> i'm just glad it's not that hard to self-compile the kernel :)
[01:52] <LeeJunFan> sometimes patches made to related parts of the kernel by a distributor will uknowing cause problems with another driver in the kernel.
[01:52] <Aondo> yea i guess
[01:53] <LeeJunFan> That's why I compile my own as well, I know if something is broken it's either my fault or time to file a bug for the kernel.
[01:53] <TheMole> I've still not compiled my own kernel and I've been using linux for about six years... I always shy away from it.
[01:54] <ademan> how can i make ALL command line output end up in a file?  I tried     Whatever > SomeFIle.txt   but only certain programs actually send things over to the file...
[01:54] <Aondo> TheMole  dont :) you can allways fall back to the old-working one, if you do something wrong hehe
[01:54] <LeeJunFan> TheMole: a couple years earlier TheMole and you'd have had to compile your own kernel just to burn CD's :)
[01:54] <Benner> lunitik: is my big font problem can be a theme or font settings only because all my desktop is fully appear correclty, i see the taskbar and everything
[01:55] <Benner> can i reset the settings of theme/fonts of the default loading preset
[01:55] <Aondo> trying to fit the kernel as much as possible for your hardware can be quite interesting
[01:55] <TheMole> LeeJunFan: I remember the first distro I used was RedHat 5.1 and X wouldn't work properly with my video card and everywhere I read just said "recompile" and in the end I just bought a new card!
[01:55] <lunitik> Benner: KControl > Appearance & Themes > Fonts or Theme Manager
[01:55] <TheMole> Aondo: I have tried once before but it all ended messily.
[01:55] <Aondo> hehe
[01:55] <Aondo> usually does the couple of first tries
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> ademan: there are 2 "channels" programs output to normally, stdout (standard output) and stderr (standard error), to get your program to put both channels to your file do whatever > outfile.txt 2>&1
[01:56] <Benner> lunitik: yes but i can read anything that's too big... i can boot in recovery mode and type startx, its load great without the font problem.. can i do something from there?
[01:56] <Benner> i can = i can't
[01:56] <kestas_> how do you change module options?
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> the 2>&1 tells it to put stderr (2) into stdout (1), which will then land both in your outfile.
[01:57] <ademan> well stdout doesn't seem to end up in the file
[01:57] <ademan> (what i see in the console as output) doesnt end up in the file
[01:57] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: you can do it manually by doing modprobe spca5xx option=value
[01:58] <LeeJunFan> kestas_: that way you can experiment before you do it permanently, you'll need to rmmod spca5xx before modprobing it.
[01:58] <lunitik> Benner: The button alone beneath all the stuff at the top is "adjust all fonts" ... click that... all the way to the right is font size... change that to like 8 for now.... see if that makes things more readable
[01:59] <LeeJunFan> ademan: stdout should always be redirected by >, it's stderr that isn't normally.
[01:59] <ademan> LeeJunFan: though what you're describing does seem to work, that seems to suggest that output is comming through stderr
[01:59] <ademan> which is strange
[01:59] <ademan> even Xorg -version doesn't dump like it should, but with 2>&1 it does
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> ademan: yeah, depends on the program too, sometimes there's good reason for it.
[02:00] <ademan> Xorg -version > Dump.txt      leaves me with an empty file, but your method works
[02:00] <qu1ckfr0st> #graphics driver update
[02:00] <ademan> but you know, whatever, i know what works now, thanks
[02:00] <qu1ckfr0st> oop...wrong command
[02:00] <qu1ckfr0st> !graphics driver update
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics driver update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> ademan: you can use that with a pipe as well Xorg -version 2>&1 | less
[02:00] <qu1ckfr0st> !drivers
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <qu1ckfr0st> !nvidia
[02:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:01] <ademan> LeeJunFan: thanks
[02:03] <grumpy_penguin> Anybody out there?
[02:04] <Benner> ahh i dont understand, i rebooted and now its fine.. i did nothing but going into apparence settings
[02:11] <intelikey> hmmm if you get the little pinguin setting at the top of the screen durring boot then fbcon is working ?
[02:11] <LeeJunFan> Benner: well as long as it stays that way :)
[02:11] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yes
[02:12] <fatejudger> this seems like a stretch, but does anyone have any experience with kpilot here?
[02:12] <fatejudger> all of my data got transferred off my Palm to my computer when I hotsynced for the first time after installing Edgy
[02:12] <fatejudger> and now I can't get it back on the Palm
[02:12] <fatejudger> it's the damndest thing too...
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> sry fatejudger I prefer to just forget things than to be organized with a palm pilot :) I really could use one.
[02:17] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: heh, I know the feeling
[02:17] <fatejudger> LeeJunFan: really though, I haven't had any problems with kpilot before, so this is new
[02:17] <fatejudger> I'm wondering if it could be my Palm...
[02:20] <intelikey> oooops   i think i'm a module short of mounting cd's    !
[02:20] <LeeJunFan> heh
[02:21] <tobias_> im sooooooo pisst off at the evil os I will never name again by its correct name!!!
[02:21] <intelikey> hmmm and if proc/modules is not mounted how can i tell what modules are loaded ?
[02:22] <intelikey> mounted/present
[02:22] <tobias_> have u heard of what they just said, that there is something in linux that they have rights for so that they can sue us for using anything except suse!!?!?
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> tobias_: hah, that took me all of 1 month of using windows 98 (my first experience with windows).
[02:22] <tobias_> steve evilevil bamer!
[02:22] <tobias_> steve the embalmer!
[02:23] <LeeJunFan> tobias_: yeah, I wondered how that could possibly be when everything in windows is closed source, I'd be willing to bet there's gpl'ed src in windows though. But how does one prove that? I think Ballmer needs to put up proof or shut his mouth.
[02:23] <tobias_> Im furius!!
[02:23] <intelikey> tobias_ glad you now see the light.
[02:23] <tobias_> intelikey: I allways saw the light silly key :)
[02:23] <tobias_> no phun intended
[02:23] <tobias_> Im just having lots of fun on wordplays today
[02:23] <intelikey> why not? it was a good one.
[02:24] <tobias_> :)
[02:24] <intelikey> :)
[02:24] <lunitik> First they ignore you, Then they something, Then they attack you.... Then you win
[02:25] <tobias_> they stole the thing from mac, who stole the thing from xerox who stole the thing from a poor guy in a garage! why and how can they even speak about other peoples os and say that they stole something from them, its beyond my imagination!
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> Obviously there's no copying of windows in Linux, or Linux would crash more, and be full of viruses and spyware. :p
[02:25] <lunitik> As big as Microsoft is.... they won't go after the Linux ecosystem.... just spreading a bunch of FUD
[02:25] <__mikem> What does FUD stand for again?
[02:26] <lunitik> Fear Uncertainty Doubt
[02:26] <tobias_> Fools using dos?
[02:26] <LeeJunFan> lunitik: true. But that FUD does hurt when people in suits who own corporations are afraid they can be sued for using Linux.
[02:26] <tobias_> :(
[02:27] <humblerodent> Hello!
[02:27] <lunitik> LeeJunFan: It hurts fools, sure
[02:27] <humblerodent> 82/M/Argentina, Sorry for badly English, who desire some photographs?
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> !away | joshy
[02:27] <ubotu> joshy: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> humblerodent: this isn't a singles channel.
[02:28] <tobias_> lol
[02:29] <tobias_> humblerodent: what kind of photographs exactly?
[02:29] <humblerodent> LeeJunFan: I am sorry, you not desire webcam and hot action?
[02:29] <tobias_> lol
[02:29] <tobias_> this guy must be kidding
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> 82/M and you have to ask tobias_ ?
[02:29] <tobias_> sorry
[02:30] <tobias_> please dont ask me
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> A certain phrase "old 84lls" from an adam sandler movie comes to mind.
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> humblerodent: not with you. :p
[02:30] <LeeJunFan> lol
[02:30] <humblerodent> Who is Adam Sandler?  American screen actor?
[02:30] <tobias_> maybe he was born in 1982
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> tobias_: conference with him, find out and tell me :p
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> I dare ya.
[02:31] <Frumpy> !make
[02:31] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:31] <tobias_> not that I doubt people being 82's ability to irc
[02:31] <rogue780> how do I restart the network daemon?
[02:31] <tobias_> leejufan :P
[02:31] <tobias_> adam sandler is a funny old boy
[02:31] <rogue780> I thought it was sudo inetd restart but it no worky
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> rogue780: what exactly are you trying to do? ifdown your network interface and ifup them again?
[02:32] <LeeJunFan> rogue780: if so 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' should do it.
[02:32] <rogue780> right, I plugged the network cable into my kubuntu box after it booted and I wanted to get it on the network w/o restarting computer
[02:33] <tamacracker> Guys, how do I stop this file from autostarting?
[02:33] <LeeJunFan> tamacracker: what file?
[02:33] <tobias_> in case someone here hasnt seen the news about the evil empires latest strategy : http://today.reuters.com/news/articlebusiness.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2006-11-21T203220Z_01_L20597961_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-MICROSOFT-LINUX-DC.XML&from=business
[02:33] <tamacracker> ~/.kde/Autostart$
[02:34] <tamacracker> it's a file called kmix.save
[02:34] <tamacracker> and the program that opens it is Kate.
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> tamacracker: files in that directory ~/.kde/Autostart will be started when you login to kde, just rm -f ~/.kde/Autostart/kmix.save
[02:34] <rogue780> and anyone know why when I just did sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and when I changed the time my monitor went blank for a few seconds?
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> rogue780: your screensaver thought the time had passed that it was supposed to go blank in.
[02:35] <LeeJunFan> rogue780: for instance if your screensaver thinks it should blank after 5 mins, and you change the clock more than 5 mins into the future it'll blank.
[02:35] <intelikey> rogue780 changing the time that the xscreensaver is watching tells it it's time to activate
[02:36] <tamacracker> Thanks LeeJunFan
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> rogue780: and when you restart your network it gets the time from the ubuntu timeserver, and it synced your clock to the correct time.
[02:36] <LeeJunFan> tamacracker: you're welcome.
[02:36] <intelikey> rogue780 computers are not self aware.  you tell it hours or days have passed it says OK !  and acts accordingly.
[02:37] <tamacracker> I have one more question, why do I have a Ubuntu, and a Ubuntu Generic in my OS selection screen?
[02:37] <LeeJunFan> tamacracker: same thing, it's just that one shows the full name of the kernel you are booting.
[02:37] <ubuntu_> hola
[02:37] <ubuntu_> SOY NUEVO
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> !es | ubuntu_
[02:38] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:38] <tamacracker> oh ok, so it's ok if it's in my grub?
[02:38] <LeeJunFan> tamacracker: yeah.
[02:38] <tamacracker> cool
[02:38] <tamacracker> thanks again :D
[02:39] <rogue780> LeeJunFan, intelikey, Thanks guys
[02:40] <intelikey> i have a question, it's more about mindset and reasoning than process.   why does debian kernels put symlinks to the kernel in /   ?
[02:41] <intelikey> ^ that assumes that it was an upstreem thing....   i don't know that for sure.
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> beats me. It's probably just another thing from 1992 that they haven't stopped including. :p
[02:42] <intelikey> hehhe
[02:42] <LeeJunFan> naw, I shouldn't say that, I really like debian. heheh
[02:42] <intelikey> me to but there is truth in them ther words
[02:43] <LeeJunFan> slak's most recent release still uses a 2.4 kernel by default.
[02:43] <intelikey> really ?
[02:44] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, 2.6 is there, but it's not the default kernel.
[02:44] <intelikey> that's 10.?  or am i behind the times again ?
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I don't remember honestly, I only remember reading the article a few months ago.
[02:45] <intelikey> i have not tried to keep up with other distros...   prolly should have.
[02:45] <LeeJunFan> Or a few weeks maybe, my life is so boring weeks seem like months :)
[02:45] <intelikey> lol
[02:45] <intelikey> LeeJunFan :)
[02:47] <LeeJunFan> as far as slakware goes there isn't much to "keep up" on :)
[02:48] <intelikey> no there isn't...  debian either really.
[02:49] <intelikey> well the development end of it is moving but the rest is sitting.
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I imagine if you keep up with the devel/unstable versions of either there's a lot going on, just that the actual freezes and releases are so far apart.
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> right.
[02:49] <LeeJunFan> Both are very important distro's to Linux though too, they both are really the foundation that Linux is built on.
[02:50] <intelikey> yes  and redhat
[02:50] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yes, as much as I hate to admit that.
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: redhat isn't really bad, I've just never like a package manager they've had yet.
[02:51] <LeeJunFan> mandrake/mandriva spun off from redhat and had urpmi, which was like apt-get for rpm's. I never cared for fedora's yum either.
[02:52] <LeeJunFan> I've got a client who has a fedora server colocated that I have to admin. I'd give anything for that to be an apt based system instead.
[02:52] <intelikey> yeah.   i like rpm's with urpmi alright   in fact i've had better experance with urpmi than apt
[02:52] <intelikey> but i know they had a release with a broken urpmi  and that tainted many.
[02:53] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I did for a long time. I used Mandrake but was really ticked at the amount of changes they were making to it, it almost was becoming it's own OS. I tried debian but wanted packages that weren't older than Jesus, so I tried the unstable version and apt was a real pain.
[02:54] <LeeJunFan> When I tried kubuntu for the first time, I dumped mandrake an hour later. After using Mandrake for probably 5 years I knew within an hour I liked apt-get more than urpmi.
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I followed the devel version of mandrake for a long time on my personal machine and they broke a lot of stuff, libc, urpmi, rpm, and gcc.
[02:55] <LeeJunFan> I got out a while before that.
[02:56] <intelikey> well i never run/ran testing versions anyway.
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> Their devel was a mess too, their mirrors were broken all the time. It was so bad I finally got sick of it and wrote a PHP page to follow cookers mirrors, and see which ones had the most recent versions of packages and which ones were broken.
[02:56] <intelikey> i stayed out of the cooker cause i dont like the heat.
[02:56] <LeeJunFan> Mandrake even linked to it from their devel page for a while, in the FAQ :)
[02:58] <intelikey> imo trying to meet a schedualed release cycle is not the best way to develop software.   but that's openion formed from observation not from practice.
[03:00] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: I agree, and I think any programmer will as well, but there's always someone with a suit and the checkbook who decides otherwize. Except for debian and slak, then you see what happens there too :)
[03:01] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yeah  and for my needs/wants that's probably better than the flavour of the month.
[03:02] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, I do like the commitment for dapper support though.
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> I don't mind using ubuntu on servers, if I realize there's a problem with an application I can always compile that one application myself.
[03:03] <gradin> hiya
[03:03] <LeeJunFan> I've got a mailserver with breezy on it, 218 days uptime.
[03:03] <gradin> i've got an issue with vnc from a windows client to a kubuntu server
[03:04] <gradin> does anybody know how to adjust the key repeat sensitivity on the remote desktop portion of ubuntu?
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> gradin: xset
[03:05] <gradin> xset?
[03:05] <LeeJunFan> xset r rate [delay [rate] ] 
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> xset rate 250 30          - is default I think.
[03:06] <gradin> hrm... now the question is will that affect the normal type rate on the ubuntu box?
[03:06] <gradin> or just the remote sessions
[03:06] <LeeJunFan> err xset r rate 250 30
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> gradin: I honestly don't know as I've never used VNC to access a linux machine.
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> I would suspect the system.
[03:07] <LeeJunFan> only for that session though.
[03:07] <intelikey> "xset -r 10" will disable autorepeat for the "1" key on the top row of  an  IBM  PC  key board.  <-- man xset
[03:09] <LeeJunFan> gradin: when you vnc into the system are you presented with a new login screen? or are you presented with the currently logged in session?
[03:09] <gradin> LeeJunFan currently logged in session
[03:10] <LeeJunFan> gradin: ah, then yeah. it will change the rate for the local side too. however when you log out/in again it will be back to default.
[03:10] <LeeJunFan> gradin: are you using kde's built in vnc server?
[03:10] <gradin> LeeJunFan well thats a problem, because i'm testing the idea for remote access when i'm not here
[03:10] <gradin> LeeJunFan yes
[03:11] <gradin> and the auto repeat is so bad i would not be able to type in xset r off
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> I would actually think that the key repeat speed should be adjusted at the client side though.
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> hrm.
[03:11] <LeeJunFan> gradin: I get that sometimes with vmware running linux as a client.
[03:11] <gradin> LeeJunFan how do you work around it?
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> gradin: I wonder if you modprobe rtc (real time clock) if it would help any. Sometimes that helps with keyboard speedaway.
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> at least in vmware.
[03:12] <LeeJunFan> although if my host system doesn't have it I have to xset the rate.
[03:12] <intelikey> rtc is probably already inserted
[03:13] <gradin> ... modprobe rtc fatal module not present..
[03:13] <intelikey> lsmod | grep rtc
[03:13] <LeeJunFan> gradin: it's probably compiled in then.
[03:14] <gradin> intelikey no response..
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> or 'grep rtc /proc/interrupts'
[03:14] <LeeJunFan> if that returns anythign then rtc is present
[03:15] <gradin> LeeJunFan 8: 3 XT-PIC rtc
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> gradin: you've got it then, so that's obviously not helping. :(
[03:17] <LeeJunFan> gradin: have you tried other vnc clients on your windows box?
[03:17] <gradin> LeeJunFan yeah
[03:17] <gradin> i just tried again and now its working...
[03:17] <intelikey> eeek  i just found something else wacky   modprobe is using /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386   that would be ok i guess but uname -r is 2.6.15.464
[03:18] <gradin> i'm wondering if the remote desktop somehow changes xset 's values during the initial connection...
[03:18] <LeeJunFan> gradin: xset q will show you current settings,
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> gradin: my repeat on local system is 250 30
[03:20] <gradin> hrm thats what i'm showing aswell...
[03:20] <gradin> i switched windows and its back again..
[03:20] <sheft> How do I install a new screensaver?
[03:20] <intelikey> client side.
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> sheft: install or just choose?
[03:21] <sheft> Install.
[03:21] <LeeJunFan> sheft: it depends on the screensaver. kde has it's own way of handling them, then there's the standard old xscreensaver which kde has a module to allow using those. Installing each type is different.
[03:21] <gradin> it may just be latency related... hrm..
[03:22] <LeeJunFan> What screensaver do you want to install?
[03:22] <sheft> LeeJunFan: this one: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=46488
[03:24] <gradin> LeeJunFan in all honesty repeating keys is more of a hinderance than a blessing...
[03:25] <LeeJunFan> sheft: hm, not sure.
[03:25] <LeeJunFan> The readme file doesn't say squat
[03:25] <gradin> LeeJunFan do you know how i could disable xset r off perminatly?
[03:26] <LeeJunFan> gradin: you could write a small script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:26] <LeeJunFan> probably easiest.
[03:26] <gradin> LeeJunFan i don't know how to script... but i'll figure it out...
[03:26] <gradin> :P
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> gradin: echo -e "#!/bin/bash\nxset r off" > ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh && chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh
[03:28] <LeeJunFan> I hope that ! doesn't screw it up.
[03:29] <LeeJunFan> if it does, you'll just get an error or 2 immediately, no harm done.
[03:30] <gradin> is there a space between +x and ~/.kde/
[03:30] <intelikey> looks good to me.   but i'm still not sure thats not a client side error
[03:30] <LeeJunFan> gradin: yes
[03:31] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: me either, I would really think the client side would be doing the repeating. Or perhaps it's got something to do with both of them having repeat on.
[03:31] <intelikey> that maybe...
[03:31] <gradin> LeeJunFan that latter sounds more likely
[03:32] <gradin> yeah it didn't like the !
[03:32] <intelikey> well i may not be able to mount the cd with this kernel but it does graphic web browsing in the console like who laid the chunk.
[03:33] <LeeJunFan> gradin: try putting a \! instead of just !
[03:33] <intelikey> #\!
[03:34] <guille> hi all
[03:34] <gradin> ...
[03:34] <gradin> LeeJunFan what would happen if i just left out the !?
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> gradin: another option might be to edit system notifications under sound & multimedia, Desktop sharing (where you normally set the sounds that play when an even happens), you could have it run xset r off on a connection, and xset r on when the connection is dropped :)
[03:34] <LeeJunFan> gradin: wouldn't run.
[03:35] <guille> im new to linux and im having a prob enabling my wireless card, can anyon eassist me with this? it would be greatly appreciated
[03:35] <intelikey> LeeJunFan for future refferance  single quotes.
[03:35] <intelikey>            echo -e '#!/bin/bash\nxset r off'
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> gradin: yeah, do that - single quotes.
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> otherwize you end up with #\!/bin/bash in the file, which isn't good.
[03:36] <intelikey> right.
[03:36] <gradin> ...
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: for some reason I was thinking single ' would not allow the \n
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> but I just tested it - works fine.
[03:37] <intelikey> LeeJunFan it didn't used too
[03:37] <gradin> LeeJunFan ok well i did it the first time without the ! and the second time with...
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> gradin: just run this:
[03:37] <gradin> is that going to crash my box next boot?
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> echo -e '#!/bin/bash\nxset r off' > ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh && chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> yes it will :p
[03:37] <LeeJunFan> no, it's going to turn off key repeat when that user logs in.
[03:37] <gradin> i mean the first entry
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> when you run this again it will overwrite the old file
[03:38] <gradin> ok
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> gradin: you can verify with ls ~/.kde/Autostart and make sure repeatoff.sh is the only file in there. Although kubuntu might have something in there by default too. probably a .desktop file or something.
[03:40] <intelikey> and cat ~/.kde/Autostart/repeatoff.sh    to make sure the syntax is correct if you like.
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> yeah, gradin, you should see a file with 2 lines: #!/bin/bash and line 2: xset r off
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> gradin: and you only need to log out and back in to test it, you do not need to reboot.
[03:46] <gradin> sweet it work thanks guys
[03:47] <gradin> he he... i just realized there are a few keys i actually use that are useful as far as autorepeat is concerned :P
[03:47] <gradin> the delete key and the arrow keys :P
[03:48] <gradin> oh well if it pisses me off enough i'll just check out the manpage for xset and learn the hex values for the matching keys :P
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> gradin: you can experiment with xset -r or +r to turn on and off individual keys, man xset will give you more info on that.
[03:48] <LeeJunFan> yup
[03:49] <LeeJunFan> man it's a slow night on here tonight. Is kubuntu really that easy to use that no one is asking more questions here? hehe
[03:50] <guille> i cant get my wireless to work, can anyone assist please?
[03:50] <LeeJunFan> heh, I just peeked in #windows and they are talking about wifi drivers in linux. go figure.
[03:50] <LeeJunFan> hah, must be the hot topic of the night.
[03:50] <guille> my card is recognized but i cant enable it
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> guille: laptop built in?
[03:51] <guille> no pcmcia
[03:51] <guille> do i have to enable that in startup?
[03:51] <LeeJunFan> guille: does running 'iwconfig' in a konsole show your wireless card?
[03:51] <guille> yes it does
[03:52] <gradin_> yeah i'm on my linux box via my windows box via ssh via vnc...
[03:52] <gradin_> i have entirely too much free time...
[03:52] <Melchiorre> guille: when you go to System settings => network settings, does your card show up in there?
[03:53] <Melchiorre> *and can you enable it there
[03:53] <LeeJunFan> guille: does your listed ESSID match your network name? and if you use WEP is the key listed after enc?
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> guille: yes, if you haven't configured it where Melchiorre mentions then that should take care of it.
[03:54] <Melchiorre> Where is the setting for launch feedback (how long the little icon bounces around when you launch a program) hidden in Edgy? I can't find it...
[03:54] <guille> no, essid:off/any , but the prob is that i cant get the card enabled
[03:54] <guille> yes it shows up there, but i cant enable it
[03:55] <guille> as soon as i try to enable it, it disables itself
[03:55] <gradin_> oh i got a good one for you, how can i set the built in vnc server in ubunto to disallow access to  the vnc port but still be able to  connect to from  an SSH tunnel?
[03:55] <Melchiorre> guille: ahh, I've had that problem... are you using ndiswrapper?
[03:56] <guille> no, its natice
[03:56] <guille> native
[03:56] <Melchiorre> hmm
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> Melchiorre: kcontrol is still there, then under appearance, launch feedback
[03:57] <LeeJunFan> K->run command->kcontrol
[03:57] <Melchiorre> LeeJunFan: cheers :)
[03:57] <intelikey> [alt] +[f2]   type kcontrol [enter] 
[03:58] <intelikey> hehhe more than one way to control k
[03:58] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: iptables (firewall)
[03:58] <gradin_>  hey guille what happens if you ./wlan0 restart in your /etc/init.d
[03:58] <intelikey> gradin_ ever use quicktables ?
[03:58] <gradin_> LeeJunFan: i have to go that far in to configure that?
[03:59] <gradin_> intelikey: nope
[03:59] <guille> i have not tryed that
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: I think if you run iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT && iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 5900 -j DROP
[03:59] <guille> im new to linux
[03:59] <guille> ill try that now
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: as long as eth0 is your device connecting you to your network.
[03:59] <pussfeller> !firefox
[03:59] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:59] <intelikey> you should try it.    it's a script that sets up a firewall for you asking only a few questions     it's nice.
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> 5900 is default VNC port isn't it?
[04:01] <intelikey> provides a couple of other scripts too   "quickblock"  for one.    one can use that to very quickly block a port or ip.
[04:01] <gradin_> intelikey: hrm...
[04:01] <LeeJunFan> :) nice time to ask :)
[04:01] <gradin_> LeeJunFan:  yes
[04:02] <guille> gradin.. i typed "cd /etc/init.d
[04:02] <LeeJunFan> guille: what does iwconfig say the device name for your wireless? ath0? wlan0? eth1? etc..
[04:02] <guille> eth1
[04:03] <gradin_> guille: oh sorry
[04:03] <guille> then i typed "./eth1 restart
[04:03] <gradin_> guille: yeah you got it
[04:03] <gradin_> what it say?
[04:03] <LeeJunFan> guille: if you type 'sudo iwconfig eth1 essid [your network name]  enc [your wep key]  && sudo dhclient eth1' it should bring it up.
[04:03] <guille> no such file is
[04:03] <intelikey> i don't know enough about networking/iptables to write the rules but i can use quicktables and have a pretty good firewall in less time than it takes some people can get out of vi   :
[04:04] <LeeJunFan> as well as tc and ip adv routing.
[04:04] <gradin_> intelikey: i think i'll pass on that one... for now, i'll have to do that at some point as the te linux box is a webserver
[04:05] <intelikey> i know who to pm with my next iptables Q ....
[04:05] <LeeJunFan> you know you're a geek when you can write QoS rules w/o consulting a man page.
[04:05] <gradin_> but for now i think i'll pass and just make sure to keep 5900 closed
[04:05] <intelikey> gradin_  k just a thought.
[04:05] <gradin_> intelikey: well thankies :)
[04:05] <gradin_> i'm surei'll have to do it at some point..
[04:06] <gradin_> guille:  ok then something is off...
[04:07] <guille> yeah
[04:07] <gradin_> guile ls and then look for eth0 wlan0
[04:07] <guille> i tryed those comands but no results
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> not in init.d they won't be.
[04:07] <LeeJunFan> guille: you tried the iwconfig and dhclient?
[04:08] <guille> yeah
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> guille: if you run iwconfig now does the info show correctly? the ESSID?
[04:08] <LeeJunFan> just iwconfig with no args.
[04:09] <guille> once i did dhclient i got no working leases in persistent database - sleeping" as the last line
[04:09] <intelikey> http://qtables.random.org    i think was the url  btw.
[04:09] <guille> no, now essid is blacnk
[04:10] <gradin_> LeeJunFan:  where are the init scrips for network interfaces stored in kubuntu?
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> guille: yeah, it's going to do that if it can't talk over the connection. Only I was so sure it'd work that I figured I'd have ya run that too :) shows what I know hehe.
[04:10] <guille> thanks for all your help guys honestly
[04:10] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: they aren't like that, you come from gentoo?
[04:10] <gradin_> LeeJunFan: yes...
[04:11] <gradin_> very painful...
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: /etc/network/interfaces stores all the config for interfaces, it's a flat file. running ifup [dev]  ifdown [dev]  will run the init for that device.
[04:11] <gradin_> LeeJunFan: wow thats soo much simplere :P
[04:11] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: yeah, tell me about it, I know from experience. I got handed an ISP to admin with a mix of SuSe, LFS, and gentoo.
[04:12] <gradin_> LeeJunFan:  i mean come on, the device doesn't register so you have to create a symlink from lo
[04:12] <gradin_> who the hell is gonna figure that one out on their own?
[04:12] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: if you look around in /etc/network/if-up.d and other such dirs therein you see what's run when the appropriate actions are issued for a device.
[04:13] <gradin_> LeeJunFan: yeah i poked my head into there for a minute to make sure i didn't loose it... :P
[04:13] <gradin_> and another desktop computer...
[04:13] <gradin_> and a nother harddrive..
[04:14] <gradin_> and flatscreen monitors...
[04:14] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: one such thing to take note of is the ntpdate script, if you often boot up when not connected to the internet you notice a hangtime while a device is attempting to ifup during boot. It's ntpdate trying to sync the clock, rm that file or put exit on the line right after #!/bin/sh
[04:14] <gradin_> and a nother harddrive... :P
[04:15] <gradin_> LeeJunFan: good to know :)
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> I want to run beryl on a 9' screen :)
[04:15] <gradin_> intelikey: my ubuntu box is running an an amd 1.5 ghz with 256 mb ram and a 40 gig hd
[04:15] <LeeJunFan> I did it at the library with their projector but the contrast was aweful, and resolution limited to 1024x768
[04:16] <intelikey> or use update-rc.d  like it's meant to be used...
[04:16] <jvz_> I updated to feisty, and I don't remember how to configure something in KDE
[04:16] <intelikey> gradin_ yeah you need a new one....
[04:16] <LeeJunFan> AMD64 3200, 1G ram.
[04:16] <jvz_> how do I make it so when a window is maximised you can't resize the window?
[04:17] <intelikey> jvz_ in kcontrol somewhere
[04:17] <jvz_> intelikey: I looked like everywhere and couldn't find it
[04:17] <gradin_> intelikey: i'm gonna keep running ubuntu on that one till i get my 2.6 intel up
[04:18] <jvz_> for some reason, when I updated form edgy to feisty, kde wanted to reconfigure itself as if it was never configured...
[04:18] <gradin_> when i bought parts some ahole sendt me a fried board
[04:18] <intelikey> that's nice.    but this isn't  #ubuntu+1 jvz_
[04:18] <Melchiorre> jvz_: system settings => Window behavior => Moving => allow moving and resizing of maximised windows
[04:18] <jvz_> thanks, Melchiorre
[04:18] <Melchiorre> np ;)
[04:19] <jvz_> I can't believe I didn't notice that :P
[04:20] <guille> ok guys
[04:20] <gradin_> intelikey: my bride and joy is the p 500 compaqu presario with 512 MB ram thats running windows xp with a blackbox shell
[04:20] <intelikey> bride and joy
[04:20] <gradin_> intelikey: sorry pride
[04:20] <LeeJunFan> gradin_: and I thought I loved my computer.
[04:20] <intelikey> just checking.
[04:20] <guille> pci kinfocenter, my cand states capabilities <access denied>
[04:20] <guille> does that help?
[04:21] <guille> card*
[04:21] <gradin_> guille: sudo pci kinfocenter
[04:21] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey guys how is it going ?
[04:21] <intelikey> gradin_ you no champ.   i don't relinquish that title easily.
[04:21] <gradin_> intelikey: i smell a challenge...
[04:21] <campbch> hmm...
[04:22] <guille> yes
[04:22] <intelikey> lol
[04:22] <guille> no i was wrong
[04:22] <campbch> ok, just for fun, i got lmms to play around with... it was working fine, but something broke, and now sound is not working.
[04:22] <guille> power managent version 2 instead
[04:23] <campbch> it does rough clicking sounds on ALSA, so i got jack and already had oss... oss just gives static
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> that kaffeine thing doesnt play any avi.wmv files
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what libraries is there to make it work
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ?
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i tried adept for avi, wmv but i dont get anything
[04:24] <intelikey> !mp3
[04:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <intelikey> !repos
[04:25] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:25] <intelikey>  - But please use free formats if you can:
[04:25] <intelikey> and i can.
[04:26] <intelikey> 00
[04:26] <intelikey> bsoA
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> mine does fine with the right mplayer codecs.
[04:26] <intelikey> !mplayer
[04:26] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[04:26] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[04:26] <LeeJunFan> getting vlc to encode wmv and wmv2 with mp3 audio was a trick, had to compile my own ffmpeg.
[04:27] <intelikey> that too
[04:27] <gradin_> intelikey:  no just blue screen during attempted playback of restrickted formats
[04:28] <campbch> as far as the sound problems are concerned, can i uninstall alsa to reinstall it without problems? i dont want to break my sound drivers and have to redo everything
[04:28] <intelikey> actually i use vlc for avi files...
[04:28] <intelikey> in the console of curse
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> I use vlc for pretty much every video file now.
[04:28] <LeeJunFan> beryl doesn't like kaffeine or xine
[04:28] <gradin_> work drives for this computer...
[04:29] <campbch> anyone know?
[04:29] <campbch> i need to have at least some notion before i start whether it will break something
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> campbch: you can't really remove alsa, it's kind of part of the kernel.
[04:29] <campbch> well
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> modules at elast.
[04:29] <LeeJunFan> least
[04:29] <campbch> it's playing crackling noises
[04:29] <campbch> in lmms
[04:29] <campbch> and i cant get sound from other things
[04:30] <LeeJunFan> what's lmms?
[04:30] <campbch> linux multimedia studio
[04:30] <campbch> ees like fruityloops
[04:30] <gradin_> ouch
[04:30] <gradin_> production machine...
[04:31] <intelikey> hmmm campbch alsa is in the kernal.  i don't think you can "uninstall" that without trubble.   the alsa tools package   alsa-tools   shouldn't be a problem to remove.
[04:31] <gradin_> camb before i try anything i'd reboot to see if the it was just a hardware lockup
[04:31] <intelikey> oh LeeJunFan just said that.... sorry i'm slow.
[04:31] <campbch> well... i reinstalled lmms already
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> campbch: you get no sound in anything else?
[04:32] <campbch> what exactly is happening when it plays crackling noises ambiently?
[04:32] <campbch> no, i couldnt get sound on flash movies...
[04:32] <campbch> ill recheck that
[04:32] <campbch> because amarok is working
[04:32] <LeeJunFan> campbch: that's sometimes a flash thing.
[04:33] <intelikey> !flash9
[04:33] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:33] <LeeJunFan> campbch: I had that problem with google vids, only thing was in konq I had no audio, in firefox I had no video.
[04:33] <intelikey> that is beta ^
[04:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i like vlc , tried it now but it doesnt play either the ones that i already could before
[04:33] <campbch> no, youtube has worked
[04:33] <campbch> consistently
[04:33] <campbch> until the problems started
[04:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> well it plays them but no video just plays
[04:34] <campbch> ok, flash sound is now working.
[04:36] <LeeJunFan> campbch: well, to be honest linux has a very stupid sound system, I'm sad to say. In order for linux to play sound it writes directly to the sound device via /dev/dsp, and only one applicaion can write to it at a time. So to make it able to play more than one sound stream at a time things like artsd and esd (for gnome) were invented. Only some applicaitons don't work well with one or the other, etc...
[04:36] <campbch> well, ill look at it later... sleepytime...
[04:36] <campbch> hmm?
[04:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no i got the video for the files i could before but not the files that i want to play now.
[04:36] <campbch> well
[04:37] <LeeJunFan> And if you run an applicaiton that isn't aware of either of artsd and it takes control of /dev/dsp then nothing else will work for sound unless you stop the application which took over /dev/dsp
[04:37] <gradin_> you guys ever read up on the decss thing that happened a while back?
[04:37] <campbch> lmms does not work, on its own, in conditions where it used to work... also, jack does not even detect and oss has static.
[04:37] <campbch> also, it is happening all the time whenthe program is running
[04:37] <campbch> as opposed to just when it would be playing a sound
[04:38] <LeeJunFan> campbch: that almost sounds like it's got an input enabled like mic that's picking up and replaying noise.
[04:38] <campbch> :( i have no mic
[04:38] <LeeJunFan> campbch: you're not being very helpful here :p
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> how the heck am I supposed to solve your problem if it's difficult ? haha
[04:39] <intelikey> a script like        sudo kill -9 `fuser /dev/dsp`         can unclog the sound pipe....
[04:39] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: yeah, or doesn't fuser have a -k switch?
[04:39] <campbch> and i just checked the mixer, its not on in there
[04:39] <campbch> i dont know what else to tell you :(
[04:40] <intelikey> LeeJunFan yeah prolly so....   i could have really extended that   with find  and a pipe or two.
[04:41] <campbch> that command didnt do anyhting, it returned a list of possible switches
[04:41] <intelikey> ok     fuser -k -signal -9 /dev/dsp       there that look better ?
[04:42] <intelikey> oops forgot to sudo it.
[04:42] <campbch> well, ill take a look later...
[04:42] <inkwell> how do i get to the Synaptic Package Manager?
[04:42] <intelikey> sudo fuser -k -signal -9 /dev/dsp
[04:42] <intelikey> sudo kill -9 `fuser /dev/dsp`
[04:43] <intelikey> i thought there was a reason i used kill    couldn't remember tho
[04:43] <intelikey> saves 4 keystrokes.
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> why not do something liek while read line ; do kill -9 ${line} ; done < ${fuser /dev/dsp}
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> hehe
[04:44] <intelikey> inkwell you'd have to install it.
[04:44] <intelikey> inkwell use adept
[04:44] <intelikey> !adept
[04:44] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:44] <inkwell> thanks
[04:44] <LeeJunFan> oh crap, that wouldn't work, have to pipe the output to while.
[04:45] <LeeJunFan> better yet add the -v option so you have to pipe it thru an awk or cut first :)
[04:45] <starhawk> hi all
[04:46] <intelikey> lol LeeJunFan
[04:46] <inkwell> i'm running 6.10 is something differnt?
[04:46] <LeeJunFan> inkwell: adept for kubuntu, synaptic for ubuntu ( by default ).
[04:46] <flaccid> !helix
[04:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about helix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:46] <intelikey> !hidden | inkwell
[04:47] <ubotu> inkwell: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:47] <intelikey> that's different ^
[04:47] <starhawk> how do I get my wireless usb adapter working linksys wireless B
[04:47] <inkwell> tring to install nvidia driver for 2 days now
[04:47] <Melchiorre> is there a way of unhiding certain dirs?
[04:47] <LeeJunFan> !nvidia
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <LeeJunFan> you followed that yet?
[04:48] <intelikey> Melchiorre  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:49] <intelikey> hey quick Q does gnome use a /.hidden also ?
[04:49] <russell__> hello
[04:49] <starhawk> how do I get my wireless usb adapter working linksys wireless B
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> yes
[04:50] <intelikey> !wifi | starhawk
[04:50] <ubotu> starhawk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:50] <russell__> does anyone know why on earth mounts rewrite directory permissions in kubuntu?
[04:50] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: the .hidden is system hacked. It affects firefox as well.
[04:50] <intelikey> russell__ yes
[04:50] <starhawk> it is not seeing it in the wifi
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> russell__: are you saying you want a mount to have a specific permission?
[04:51] <russell__> ok two part question intelikey, first.. why? and second how can you get around it so that it doesn't happen
[04:51] <intelikey> LeeJunFan someone said it affected bash too but then someone else said it didn't affect the console at all...
[04:51] <russell__> basically I'm trying to mount a samba share to a local directory for a user, and I have to mount as root, so it rewrites the ownership and group to root
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: no, it's just file request windows like open,save as, etc..
[04:51] <starhawk> looked at the doc. not much help for wireless B adapter
[04:51] <russell__> but I need access from my local user
[04:52] <russell__> and I can't change the permissions after it has been mounted
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> russell__: mount -ouid=[username]  ... rest of your options
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> russell__: will mount it as that listed user.
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> err smbmount if that's what you're using.
[04:53] <intelikey> russell__ because you read the permissions on the mounted fs    and for the next part i'll assume it's m$ krap because it's changing the perms on the mountpoint   so you need to enclude some options for the mount command   on the cli the options would be -o fmask=666,dmask=777
it is not seeing it in the wifi
[04:55] <intelikey> the reason M$ krap does that is because there is no permissions bit on the M$ made fs  so mount has to impliment a vertual permissions bit for the entire fs.
[04:55] <intelikey> starhawk sorry. you'll have to ask someone else.  i don't have wifi.
[04:55] <russell__> thanks LeeJunFan that worked great.. I checked the man page for mount and it listed group and user for -o options, I tried both of those but neither worked.. the uid option was down at the bottom under file system specific mounts, only reason I found it was I did a search for uid
[04:55] <starhawk> thank you then
[04:56] <steve__> HI!!!
[04:56] <steve__> Where CAN me dl this the fastest!!!?
[04:56] <intelikey> russell__ fs specific options....
[04:56] <intelikey> in the man page.
[04:56] <steve__> bobby
[04:57] <russell__> intelikey: normally that would be true but there isn't any m$ involved here.. I'm connecting from my laptop runing kubuntu to a freebsd box with the directory I mounting having the same username and permissions of the directory I'm mounting too
[04:57] <russell__> intelikey: haha yeah I know.. but look at kubuntu's man page for mount
[04:57] <Melchiorre> steve__: what are you trying to dl?
[04:58] <russell__> they list the normal -o options and they don't include uid in there, its only listed down at the bottom of the man page literally under "file system specific options"
[04:58] <intelikey> the mount manpage is not distro specific.
[04:58] <russell__> of course it is
[04:58] <russell__> freebsd has different man pages that kubuntu
[04:58] <russell__> as do some other distros
[04:58] <russell__> maybe not all linux distros have there own.. but not all man pages are the same
[04:59] <intelikey> what other distros >?
[04:59] <russell__> but either way thanks for the help guys that worked great
[04:59] <russell__> other distros that don't use the same man pages.. take your pic
[04:59] <russell__> either way there is differences
[05:01] <russell__> can't give you a specific example right now for linux distros.. I've been using debian derivatives for a while now.. but compare freebsd's man page for ln and compare it to kubuntu's man page for ln
[05:01] <russell__> intelikey: no I'm not
[05:02] <russell__> you just misunderstood me
[05:02] <russell__> I said that different distros of *nix have different man pages
[05:02] <Dr_willis> lets see.. i need a nice simple way to convert a mp3 to a MONO mp3....
[05:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <russell__> thanks for the help guys
[05:05] <intelikey> unix != linux != mac != solaris ....   lumping everything that is not M$ into one pile is 0.o    but, NEXT !
[05:05] <russell__> ok... not seeing your point
[05:06] <russell__> you're the one who brought M$ into the situation
[05:06] <russell__> the only thing that my issue had to do with M$ is that it was using a protocol they created
[05:09] <jarn> How do I access the files on a disk I have in? :O
[05:09] <inkwell> how do i run apt-setup?
[05:11] <intelikey> jarn what kind of disk ?
[05:12] <intelikey> inkwell sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt   maybe
[05:13] <jarn> intelikey: Playstation disk... trying to make an iso of it.
[05:14] <LeeJunFan> why does every article I read about linux say redhat is the Linux giant? the #fedora channel has less people than #kubuntu and WAY less than #ubuntu, and any #'s I've actually seen show ubuntu far ahead.
[05:15] <intelikey> jarn dd if=/dev/"devicenode" of=filename.iso     where "devicenode"  is the device your drive is.   like /dev/hdc
[05:16] <Dr_willis> LeeJunFan,  go ask the Busineses spending the $$$ on real life projects/servers/work what they are using.
[05:17] <intelikey> LeeJunFan cause jo citicen can name one linux distro  hedhat .    he read it in a magizene some place.
[05:17] <jarn> intelikey: I tried that, it said it was 0 bytes.
[05:17] <intelikey> jarn right device ?
[05:17] <intelikey> test with eject /dev/hdc   as per the example.
[05:18] <jarn> intelikey: I believe so... I only have one disk drive, so wouldn't it be /dev/cdrom0
[05:18] <intelikey> prolly not.
[05:18] <intelikey> try a real address  not the symlink
[05:18] <jarn> hdc gives no medium found.
[05:19] <jarn> What is the real address?
[05:19] <intelikey>  /dev/hdb   /dev/scd0  /dev/hdd
[05:19] <intelikey> start in you'll find it.
[05:20] <LeeJunFan> Dr_willis: I know a number of people using Linux in server applications and only one of them is redhat.
[05:20] <intelikey> jarn dmesg | grep cd    might help.
[05:22] <intelikey> jarn could k3b not iso that disk ?
run that from the Shell - Konsole
[05:22] <inkwell> ?
[05:22] <inkwell> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt
[05:22] <intelikey> inkwell yeah
[05:22] <inkwell> nope:(
[05:23] <intelikey> inkwell if i said it's probably cli.
[05:23] <intelikey> inkwell what are you trying to do ?
[05:23] <jarn> k3b says I have no disk in the drive.
[05:23] <jarn> When I most certainly do.
[05:23] <inkwell> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[05:24] <intelikey> sudo apt-setup && sudo apt-get update
[05:24] <intelikey> but i don't have apt-setup.....
[05:24] <intelikey> i've got an   apt-config
[05:24] <jarn> I'
[05:25] <jarn> I'll just look in the morning more.
[05:25] <inkwell> me too
[05:25] <inkwell> cool, progress
[05:25] <intelikey> jarn  did you find the drive ?
[05:26] <mr_daemon> Okay my windows share always comes out as read only no matter what I do when mounted... any ideas?
[05:26] <Dr_willis> mr_daemon,  you are refering to windows accessing your Linux samba shares? or Linux accessing the windows shares?
[05:27] <mr_daemon> Dr_willis, Linux mounting a cifs filesystem on a Win2k3 server...
[05:28] <mr_daemon> Dr_willis, I have done this before in Dapper...
[05:28] <Dr_willis> cant say that ive ever had that problem.. or seen anyone else mention it in here about edgy.
[05:31] <lalo_> hello all
[05:31] <lalo_> i have a question.....
[05:31] <aj_> anyone here install kxdocker on edgy?
[05:31] <inkwell> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem
[05:31] <lalo_> why if a change a new amarok theme it does change?
[05:32] <SilentSnow> Can someone explain to me how to install a wusb54g v4 linksys wireless adapter on ubuntu?
[05:33] <intelikey> inkwell did you even try; sudo apt-setup ; sudo apt-get update
[05:33] <intelikey> or are you just one of those people that like to whine ?
[05:34] <inkwell> yea, don't work
[05:34] <intelikey> what does it say ?
[05:34] <intelikey> don't work doesn't help us help you.
[05:34] <dan14> hello all, i have a quick question... what is the KDE equivalent to gnome-session
[05:34] <dan14> ?
[05:34] <inkwell> command not found
[05:35] <intelikey> bash command   or sudo command  not found ?
[05:35] <inkwell> sudo
[05:35] <intelikey> dan14 startkde ?
[05:36] <dan14> thats what i was thinking, but i wanted to be sure that its not a script that is a shell that KDE runs from
[05:36] <intelikey> inkwell so your system doesn't have apt-setup either...  ok   try replacing setup with config and see what it does.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> heh.. its always a script :)
[05:36] <dan14> the point is im altering a beryl script to work in kde but the script was written for gnome
[05:37] <Dr_willis> startkde is a script :)
[05:37] <intelikey> dan14 startkde is a script    /bin/sh script.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> gnome-session seems to be a binary
[05:37] <inkwell> "bash apt-config"?
[05:37] <inkwell> or sudo apt-config?
[05:37] <intelikey> inkwell no
[05:37] <Dr_willis> amuseing script...
[05:37] <dan14> what would bash do?
[05:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-config
[05:37] <dan14> i am used to slackware
[05:37] <Dr_willis> # Set the background to plain grey. The standard X background is nasty, causing moire effects and exploding people's heads.
[05:38] <intelikey> !sudo dan14
[05:38] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[05:38] <intelikey> !sudo | dan14
[05:38] <ubotu> dan14: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:38] <dan14> lol
[05:38] <inkwell> apt-config is a simple tool to read the APT config file
[05:39] <inkwell> blah blah blah
[05:40] <intelikey> dan14 mixed two of you.     ls -l /bin/sh
[05:40] <inkwell> apt 0.6.45ubuntu14 for linux i386 compiled on Sep 27 2006 23:43:36
[05:41] <inkwell> Usage: apt-config [options]  command
[05:41] <inkwell> apt-config is a simple tool to read the APT config file
[05:41] <aj_> nobody here uses kxdocker?
[05:41] <inkwell> Commands:
[05:41] <inkwell>    shell - Shell mode
[05:41] <intelikey> inkwell sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt      you did that ?
[05:41] <inkwell>    dump - Show the configuration
[05:41] <inkwell> Options:
[05:41] <inkwell>   -h   This help text.
[05:41] <inkwell>   -c=? Read this configuration file
[05:41] <inkwell>   -o=? Set an arbitrary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp
[05:41] <inkwell> inkwell@inkwell-desktop:~$
[05:41] <inkwell> what is all that?
[05:41] <inkwell> yeah
[05:42] <inkwell> inkwell@inkwell-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow apt
[05:42] <inkwell> inkwell@inkwell-desktop:~$
[05:42] <intelikey> all that is a flood in an irc channel that can get you kicked out..    in your konsole it's a help message.
[05:42] <inkwell> sorry
[05:42] <madmazz> hi
[05:43] <intelikey> ok no error means no error.    inkwell;  now run  sudo apt-get update
[05:43] <madmazz> anyone know how to join yahoo chats using GAIM?
[05:43] <madmazz> when I try it tells me that ROOM may be full.. on any chat
[05:44] <intelikey> inkwell is it updating ?
[05:44] <inkwell> E: Type "nvidia-glx" is not know on line one.......
[05:45] <inkwell> in source list /etc/apt/sources.lis
[05:45] <intelikey> on line one.... ???   ah.
[05:45] <intelikey> inkwell pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <intelikey> !paste
[05:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <inkwell> E: Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <intelikey> inkwell  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org   <-- put er thar
[05:46] <intelikey> it took me this long to pry the real problem out of him....
[05:49] <inkwell>  E: Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list E: Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in sourc
[05:49] <intelikey> inkwell bring us the url to your pastebin please.
[05:50] <inkwell> how?
[05:50] <intelikey> lets try something else.      is that edgy or dapper you are running ?
[05:51] <inkwell> 6.10???? edgy???
[05:51] <intelikey> k give me a second.
[05:51] <inkwell> downloaded from newsgroup and figured i would try it
[05:53] <intelikey> find that and copy it to  /etc/apt/sources.list     sudo cp edgy /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:53] <italy> hmm
[05:53] <italy> is there a way to delete root?
[05:53] <intelikey> then run   sudo apt-get update     it should work now. inkwell
[05:54] <intelikey> italy the account or the dir ?
[05:54] <italy> the account
[05:54] <inkwell> no such file or dir
[05:54] <italy> i think i screwed up
[05:54] <italy> i changed root's password and now I can't login
[05:54] <italy> and my 'italy' account is no longer in the admin group.
[05:54] <italy> so uh
[05:55] <intelikey> italy i don't think you'd want to delete the account.    login as root   add yourself to the admin group and passwd -l root    but don't log out until you test your accounts login and sudo
[05:55] <inkwell> no such file or dir
[05:55] <italy> I cannot login as root
[05:56] <italy> it asks for a password and i don't know it
[05:56] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:56] <intelikey> inkwell so find where it put it.
[05:56] <Dr_willis> you changed roots password and cant rember it?
[05:56] <italy> apparently
[05:56] <Hawkwind> So boot to single user mode and change it
[05:56] <italy> i changed it in 'User Managament'
[05:56] <Dr_willis> i wonder how people manage to forget such things.. heh
[05:56] <italy> well i probably typed it incorrectly since it didn't ask me to verify it.
[05:57] <intelikey> italy hehhe so boot to init=/bin/sh  remount the fs rw and do the work from there.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> system recovery 101 time.
[05:57] <intelikey> just remember to remount,ro befor reboot
[05:57] <Dr_willis> or boot a live cd, mount and chroot to the system, and use passwd command.
[05:57] <italy> i like Dr_willis idea
[05:58] <italy> how does chroot work again?
[05:58] <intelikey> yes or a live cd if that's an option to you.
[05:58] <italy> well i have kubuntu on disc :)
[05:58] <bcrockett> What's the best way to run Ubuntu and Windows XP concurrently?
[05:58] <intelikey> sudo -i   then    mount /dev/'your-hd' /mnt ;chroot /mnt
[05:59] <intelikey> and work from there.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> bcrockett,  vmware is darn handy
[05:59] <bcrockett> Dr_willis OK, will look into it. Thanks.
[05:59] <intelikey> qemu maybe too ?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> I have better luck with vmware
[06:01] <italy> can i do sudo -d root ?
[06:01] <bcrockett> Dr_willis: With Ubuntu as the host and XP as the guest, or XP as the host and Ubuntu as the guest?
[06:01] <intelikey> i tried to use vmware but it required restricted modules and nvidia  so i can'd it.
[06:01] <italy> er passwd -d root
[06:02] <intelikey> italy yeah you can.   but that allows passwordless login to root
[06:02] <italy> well can I change it later on?
[06:02] <intelikey> italy oh   and you can't login as root in kdm at all unless you hack the config
[06:03] <intelikey> "which may be done from the gui as well iirc"
[06:03] <italy> i'm trying to login via console
[06:04] <italy> i could just delete everything in the shadow file
[06:05] <Dr_willis> bcrockett,  depends. :P  ya could do it either way
[06:05] <intelikey> italy sure  i have no problem with you using a temporarry passwordless root login.    in fact it's probably even better to just add  " openvt -fc 24 -- su -  "    to an init script.   like the /etc/rc.local   until you get that all streightened out.
[06:05] <bcrockett> Dr_willis: ko
[06:06] <Dr_willis> bcrockett,  personally i run vmware under ubuntu, with a win98 install on the vmware setup. :)
[06:06] <Dr_willis> since xp would proberly have hissy fits with its lame activation stuff.
[06:07] <bcrockett> Ah.
[06:07] <intelikey> btw that would open a root console on tty24  right alt + f12 to get there from any console.
[06:09] <intelikey> one word of caution.  if you use an init line like i said above.  when you exit that shell there is nothing to respawn it until runlevel change.
[06:09] <jontec> How do I insert special characters in the keyboard... I saw in my documentation once that it used the win key, but my search is broken for my documentation.... can anyone point me to a table?
[06:10] <bcrockett> jontec: Google ASCII
[06:10] <bcrockett> Use the ALT key, not the Windows key.
[06:10] <jontec> but does the win key have the same function as the alt key would on windows?
[06:10] <intelikey> jontec http://tldp.org would be a good way to search the docs.
[06:11] <intelikey> !mediakeys
[06:11] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[06:12] <bcrockett> johtec: my mistake...
[06:12] <intelikey> i think there is something on the wiki also....
[06:12] <intelikey> !wiki
[06:12] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[06:14] <intelikey> ok anything else before i leave ?
[06:15] <intelikey> time's up.    good night, and God bless.
[06:16] <italy> gah
[06:17] <italy> i booted my liv cd and did "sudo -i; mount /dev/hdcXX /mnt ; chroot /mnt
[06:17] <italy> then passwd -d root
[06:17] <italy> i rebooted back and it still asks for a password
[06:19] <jontec> there is nothing anywhere
[06:20] <jontec> why is the wiki NEVER helpful. in all of my year (one year) of using it... it has never provided me with the information I need.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> you did use /dev/hdcXX where XX is the proper ids for your hard drive? or dod you just mindlessly paste the stuff...
[06:22] <crimsun> jontec: then help make it more useful instead of whining that it's unhelpful.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> the windows key is different from the alt key. :)
[06:22] <jontec> crimsun:well I have... so don't lecture me.
[06:23] <crimsun> jontec: if I wanted to lecture, it'd be elsewhere.
[06:23] <italy> it's working
[06:23] <italy> i went to a different tty and i could login as root :|
[06:23] <italy> so i ran passwd and changed it
[06:26] <italy> god damn it
[06:26] <italy> su still isn't working everywhere
[06:26] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[06:26] <Dr_willis> try su -
[06:27] <Dr_willis> and sudo is diffent from 'su'
[06:27] <italy> i mean like
[06:27] <italy> i can't open add/remove programs
[06:27] <italy> when it asks for the password it fails
[06:27] <italy> but when i run su from the terminal
[06:27] <italy> i can get into it
[06:27] <Dr_willis> that is using SUDO, not su
[06:27] <italy> what is
[06:27] <Dr_willis> you need to check yoru sudoers list, and what users have admin/sudo priviliges
[06:27] <italy> add/remove?
[06:28] <Dr_willis> SUDO is different, it uses the users password. not roots
[06:28] <Dr_willis> su uses the root users password
[06:29] <Dr_willis> sudo is a way to allow speficic users to do specific 'root' tasks. , su changes the user to another user.
[06:30] <italy> uhh
[06:30] <italy> i'm looking at my sudo list
[06:30] <italy> # User privilege specification
[06:30] <italy> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:31] <Dr_willis> notice the .........
[06:31] <Dr_willis> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[06:31] <Dr_willis> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:31] <Dr_willis> any users in the admin group can do the sudo stuff.
[06:31] <unix_infidel> intelligent design :P
[06:31] <italy> oh
[06:31] <italy> I took my italy account of out of 'admin' group
[06:32] <Dr_willis> grep  admin /etc/group
[06:32] <Dr_willis> admin:x:114:willis
[06:32] <Dr_willis> NOW you are thinking... :)
[06:32] <italy> # User privilege specification
[06:32] <italy> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:32] <italy> damn it
[06:32] <italy> lpadmin:x:109:italy
[06:32] <italy> admin:x:113:
[06:32] <Dr_willis> i forget how to put a user in the admin group. :)
[06:32] <italy> i think i know what to add :)
[06:32] <Dr_willis> theres a comand to do it..
[06:32] <unix_infidel> hmm, i'm curious, is it possible to run kdesu as a user that's not in an admin group?
[06:32] <italy> can't I just edit it myself?
[06:33] <Dr_willis> ya could.. but  its proberly best to use the command. heh heh
[06:33] <italy> admin:x:113:italy ?
[06:33] <italy> what's the command
[06:33] <italy> I could login as root
[06:33] <italy> go to the User option thing
[06:33] <italy> unless I can't login as root in kdm
[06:33] <Dr_willis> sudo addgroup peggy admin
[06:34] <Dr_willis> added user peggy to the admin group for me. :)
[06:34] <Dr_willis> admin:x:114:willis,peggy
[06:34] <italy> worked
[06:34] <italy> thx
[06:34] <Dr_willis> just use 'startx' as root from the console to get to a X running as root (which is a bad idea)
[06:35] <Dr_willis> theres some way to let every user  run sudo.,. but thats a bad idea also. heh
[06:35] <Dr_willis> theres a way to set it where they dont have to type in their password again also.. but thats also a bad idea. :)
[06:35] <crimsun> depends what you allow those users to 'sudo'
[06:35] <Dr_willis> some disrtos do it that way
[06:35] <Dr_willis> so it all boils down to 'how paranoid do you want to be'
[06:36] <crimsun> if they can only 'sudo' /bin/lsb_release, it's not as frightening
[06:36] <Dr_willis> sudo bash
[06:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:36] <italy> is there any way to add universal package lists in Adept
[06:36] <crimsun> root shells are always frightening
[06:37] <italy> universe even
[06:37] <unix_infidel> i always make sure i've downed atleast 2 cups of coffee when that # pops up.
[06:37] <unix_infidel> when \> shows up, i know i'm screwed either way....
[06:38] <italy> first time i used linux, i ran rm -rf /* within 5 mins of installing
[06:38] <unix_infidel> that's what happens when you hang out in undernet
[06:39] <jontec> !compiz
[06:39] <italy> fucker told me to do it
[06:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:39] <italy> lost my ipod
[06:39] <kmte> sd
[06:40] <Dr_willis> this is when it pays to learn the fundamentals.
[06:40] <italy> I don't do my own research because i'm a stupid human
[06:41] <Dr_willis> universe is easially added to the  apt/sources.list
[06:41] <italy> i see
[06:41] <Dr_willis> !repos
[06:41] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:41] <Dr_willis> !apt
[06:41] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:41] <italy> ubuntu's manager thing had a place where you could add it :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> all it does there is add  them to that file
[06:41] <Dr_willis> synaptic can be installed easially enough
[06:41] <italy> I don't like appending things by hand
[06:41] <Dr_willis> if you like it.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> !universe
[06:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:42] <Jucato> Adept also has a place where you could add it
[06:42] <Dr_willis> adding universe is just uncommenting a few lines.
[06:42] <italy> I just want VLC for christ sake
[06:42] <Dr_willis> that 'add/remove programs' varient of adept has check box's that do the same thing
[06:42] <Dr_willis> fire it up.. chgeck the box's, search for vlc install...
[06:42] <italy> I ain't seeing no god damn check boxes
[06:42] <Dr_willis> look in the menus.. add/remove programs.. THAT is a 'variant' of adept.
[06:43] <Dr_willis> the K menu that is. :)
[06:43] <master_> hello
[06:43] <Jucato> !universe | italy
[06:43] <ubotu> italy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:44] <Jucato> Dr_willis: the checkboxes in Add/Remove doesn't enable universe/multiverse. it just shows them. they have to be enabled through Adept Manager
[06:44] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  you sure? i though ive done it that way befor.. but that may of been under dapper.
[06:44] <italy> why
[06:44] <italy> sudo is broke again
[06:44] <Dr_willis> actually I thought the thing asked to enable them the first time.
[06:45] <Dr_willis> but i got my sources.list so  tweaked.. i forget what is the defaults.
[06:45] <Jucato> Dr_willis: yes I'm sure. because I have universe/multiverse enabled, and the checkboxes are still unchecked everytime I start up Add/Remove Programs
[06:45] <italy> lpadmin:x:109:italy
[06:45] <italy> admin:x:113:
[06:45] <italy> what is this joke
[06:45] <Jucato> Dr_willis: maybe you're talking about the dapper-commercial repos
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  that may be it.
[06:46] <unix_infidel> !dapper-commercial
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dapper-commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <unix_infidel> !commercial
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <jontec> !what do you know
[06:46] <jontec> lol.
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what do you know - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:47] <jontec> !
[06:47] <jontec> bye guys.
[06:48] <italy> weird
[06:48] <italy> sudo suddenly stopped working
[06:49] <italy> oh
[06:49] <italy> sudo works when i use my italy password now for some reason :\
[06:49] <Jucato> sudo always asks for your own password
[06:50] <italy> i thought it only worked for your su account?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> su and sudo are differnt..
[06:50] <Jucato> there is no su/root account enabled by default
[06:50] <Dr_willis> su -              wants root password..
[06:50] <Dr_willis> sudo wants your users password
[06:50] <italy> i'm just not going to worry about it
[06:51] <Dr_willis> and what Jucato  said is correct.. there is no default root password.. direct logging in as root is disabled.
[06:51] <Dr_willis> 'learn' about it.. dont worry about it. :)
[06:51] <italy> I only enjoying knowing about things. I don't like understanding them.
[06:51] <Jucato> italy: just keep in mind that sudo/kdesu will always ask for your password. period. nothing more, nothing less... unless of course you do something naughty and enable root
[06:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:04] <digivore> how do i find out what driver my wireless usb nic is using?
[07:09] <italy> nvidia makes driver installation simple
[07:11] <Dr_willis> hmmm...
[07:17] <Acker> cowabunga
[07:19] <Dr_willis> testing out some live cd's
[07:19] <Dr_willis> this one for some reason hangs on this machine with the 'usb' device detection. perhaps its not liking my extra usb pci controller card
[07:21] <Dr_willis> night all.
[07:22] <blekos> helloo guys
[07:23] <blekos> i have big problem
[07:23] <blekos> my screen size (not resolution) has changed
[07:23] <blekos> as a result i have a black gap on the left and the right of my screen
[07:23] <blekos> tried to changed resolution to lower one 800x600 but no luck...
[07:42] <sirmis> hi
[07:42] <smoenux> !mp3
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:43] <sirmis> i have problems when installing xgl and compiz on kubuntu amd 64
[07:43] <sirmis> i found this when googled around HowTo: Xgl + Compiz on AMD64 (Easy / Packages)
[07:44] <sirmis> theresm this cind of section ... Step 5 is editing configuration files and making a script to start xgl / compiz. Here we tell the system to use Xgl / Compiz.
[07:44] <Kvek> Hello and good evening
[07:45] <sirmis> how do i do that in kde
[07:45] <Kvek> i need some help installing Ubuntu
[07:45] <sirmis> +can
[07:46] <sirmis> Kvek: maby i can help ... :)
[07:47] <Kvek> well i've been tring to install Ubuntu on my laptop that has win 98 and at some point in the installation the laptop freezes
[07:48] <italy> wtf
[07:48] <sirmis> Kvek: have u tried install in text mode
[07:48] <italy> I installed libxine-extracodecs
[07:49] <italy> but it says MP3 support is not available still
[07:49] <Kvek> do you mind helping me through it sirmis?
[07:49] <Kvek> all i need to do is get my laptop
[07:51] <italy> god damn thing was running multiple instances
[07:52] <sirmis> Kvek: just a moment .. i need to restart X
[07:57] <happybob123> Hey, Kubuntu is compatible with Windows ME right? :)
[07:57] <happybob123> </friends paid me money to come in here and ask that>
[07:59] <Kvek> Hey how do i install ubuntu in text mode?
[08:00] <Donovaan> Hello?
[08:00] <Kvek> Hi Donovaan
[08:01] <Donovaan> Where do I get a list of the channels and such, comrade?
[08:02] <Donovaan> Does anyone know?
[08:03] <Jucato> Donovaan: which ones? all channels in freenode or all ubuntu channels in freenode?
[08:03] <Donovaan> All channels.
[08:04] <labkom> solo
[08:05] <Jucato> Donovaan: either go to Window -> Channel list or press F5 or type in /list. take note that you might experience some lag or might even be disconnected
[08:06] <DonovaanOkay> Many hanks.
[08:06] <DonovaanOkay> *thanks
[08:08] <Kvek> how do i install ubuntu in text mode?
[08:09] <enix> .
[08:24] <rerere> need help: i installed gnome-desktop on kubuntu i log of and can't log on gnome desktop any idea?
[08:24] <nyt> :D
[08:24] <rerere> kde is still default but i can't get on to gnome
[08:25] <Jucato> rerere: you have to choose GNOME from the session menu in the login screen
[08:25] <rerere> there is no gnome thats the problem
[08:26] <rerere> kde default and fail save thats all
[08:27] <Jucato> rerere: probably the installation of gnome-desktop wasn't completed?
[08:27] <rerere> so do apt-get again?
[08:28] <Jucato> yes. um... what did you install btw? gnome-desktop or ubuntu-desktop?
[08:29] <rerere> gnome Jucato
[08:29] <Jucato> ah, gnome-desktop-environment?
[08:30] <Jucato> try apt-get installing it again, some things might have been left out
[08:31] <rerere> yes 3 new packages will be istalled that should work
[08:31] <rerere> one is gnome session
[08:31] <tenchi> Hi all!
[08:31] <italy> the fountain starts tomorrow :)
[08:33] <tenchi> My problem is: I have Edgy Kubuntu 6.10 installed with all updates and the latest nvidia drivers from nivida.com. When I turn on the computer, X does not start and only reset helps. Upon reset X works flawlessly with 3D. Why?
[08:35] <tenchi> An whatevere is this huge amount of updates in adept today?
[08:39] <edgy> Hi, This is my first time using OOo impress and I was impressed on how many times it crash ;) is this well-known or is it a problem in my kubuntu system?
[08:40] <edgy> If I just pressed Enter to make a new bullet and them backspace to remove it it would crash Impress
[08:49] <kraut> moin
[08:57] <battousaix19> your OOo may be a corrupt instal
[08:57] <battousaix19> as to date, i dont think OOo has EVER crashed on me;)
[08:59] <Cayenne> anyone online?
[09:00] <Cayenne> Need help with my Kubuntu :D
[09:02] <jaaroo> hello there. I must be dumb or something. I've set dark background and am not able to set font color for panels (which is translucent). How is it possible?
[09:02] <Cayenne> Well, anyway... When im putting in the CD in my Laptop it comes up the meny what you whant to do, after that when i try to take 1, Start and Install it's start to load after that the computer is frezzing
[09:09] <grothesk> Hello!
[09:10] <grothesk> I just saw a kde 3.5.5a release on the kubuntu servers. When will it be available via apt?
[09:15] <crazy_bus> Can anyone help me.  I wan't doing anything major on my computer.  But for some reason Amarok crashed and wouldn't load again.  So I restarted my computer.  However now my computer loads kubuntu.  But as soon as kde starts it comes up with a dialog box saying "kdeitit failed to load. please check installation".  And if you  click ok on that the screen goes black and nothing further happens
[09:19] <italy> http://youtube.com/watch?v=TjxABMgHMb4
[09:19] <italy> sweet
[09:20] <metres> Hi all, do I have to reinstall all to get from dapper to edgy ?
[09:20] <metres> or a kernel recompilation is possible ?
[09:21] <defrysk> metres, backup and fresh install is best
[09:21] <defrysk> !upgrade | metres
[09:21] <ubotu> metres: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:21] <defrysk> !backup | metres
[09:21] <ubotu> metres: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[09:22] <metres> thanks guys :-)
[09:23] <Jucato> hm... I can't get to tty in vmware (Kubuntu Edgy...)
[09:41] <cox377> does anyone know any windows admin password recovering linux os's?
[09:46] <tibbar> LeeJunFan: im only 40% updated now I just gave up :(
[09:48] <tibbar> gnomefreak:  im only 40% updated now I just gave up :(
[10:11] <happycow-> greetings all :)
[10:14] <crazy_bus> Can anyone help me?  My computer was working fine until I restarted it, and now when KDE starts.  It says kdeinit failed to load.  And if you click ok on it, the screen goes black and nothing further happens.
[10:16] <happycow-> so quiet.. I guess the N.A.'s are sleeping ^
[10:19] <happycow-> But this Ubuntu (Kubuntu) distro is great. I finally managed to get sudo working (wow!), after completely screwing everything up the last three times. I've setup mounts for my NTFS drives and installed codecs for my porn
[10:19] <happycow-> Maybe I'll even get used to using the OS ..
[10:20] <happycow-> I think maybe my worst enemy in Linux is the choices.. choices I didn't get with Windows..
[10:20] <defrysk> s/enemy/friend
[10:20] <defrysk> s/worst/best
[10:20] <cox377> does anyone know the apt-get command for install kb3?
[10:21] <happycow-> agreed .. it's just hard getting used to. You know :)
[10:21] <apokryphos> cox377: use adept, Kubuntu's graphical package manager
[10:21] <defrysk> cox377, sudo apt-get install k3b
[10:21] <defrysk> cox377, sudo apt-get install <package>
[10:22] <cox377> defrysk: thats odd, thats the command i ran and it said it couldnt find it, just ran it again  and it worked
[10:22] <cox377> : )
[10:22] <happycow-> ^^
[10:22] <defrysk> cox377, probably a typo ;)
[10:22] <happycow-> I have fat thumbs too
[10:23] <defrysk> that would make it a thumbo
[10:23] <happycow-> :D
[10:26] <happycow-> now.. next thing I need to install is Eclipse. Anyone have some experience with that, and know what I should install and such ? (I have added Multiverse and Universe)
[10:27] <defrysk> !info eclipse
[10:27] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[10:27] <happycow-> ta!
[10:29] <happycow-> ubotu: this wouldn't but accident install the JRE also, would it ? :)
[10:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about this wouldn't but accident install the JRE also, would it ? :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:29] <happycow-> by*
[10:29] <defrysk> happycow-, ubutu = a bot
[10:29] <defrysk> !ubotu
[10:29] <happycow-> I noticed!! :p
[10:30] <defrysk> !info sunjava
[10:30] <ubotu> Package sunjava does not exist in any distro I know
[10:30] <defrysk> !info jre
[10:30] <ubotu> Package jre does not exist in any distro I know
[10:30] <crimsun> !info sun-java5
[10:30] <defrysk> !java
[10:30] <ubotu> Package sun-java5 does not exist in any distro I know
[10:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:30] <happycow-> keep going.. you're doing great!
[10:30] <defrysk> lol crimsun
[10:31] <happycow-> crimsun, and if I been the 6.0 beta?
[10:31] <happycow-> need*
[10:31] <defrysk> !info sun-java5-jre
[10:31] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 7279 kB, installed size 16132 kB
[10:31] <crimsun> happycow-: you're out of luck for now
[10:31] <crimsun> happycow-: you'll just have to use java-package
[10:31] <crimsun> I was lazy and just untarred the whole jdk in /usr/local/
[10:31] <happycow-> :D
[10:39] <defrysk> jre6 hmmm gonna try that
[10:43] <happycow-> keep me posted :)
[10:43] <defrysk> java-package does not yet support it.
[10:44] <happycow-> apparently my genious instructors feel that using a Beta-package is good for teaching people how to programme. Obviously I feel it's.. hmm.. not quite thought through.
[10:47] <crimsun> defrysk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=322843
[10:47] <crimsun> see the last patch, which enables 1.6 beta 2
[10:48] <defrysk> crimsun, thanks
[10:51] <ubuntu_> join #kde
[10:53] <crazy_bus> Please can anyone help me.  I rebooted my computer and now KDE won't load.  It comes up with an error saying kdeinit failed to load.
[10:53] <crazy_bus> And if you type startkde in recovery mode it comes up with this; Warning: connect() failed: no such file or directory.
[10:53] <crazy_bus> Error: Can't contact kdeinit
[11:14] <cox3777> Hello all, windows has locked me out by rejecting my password so i need to get the data from the c drive, just put ubuntu live in there, it sees the drive but says it's unable to mount the drive, does anyone know why this would be?
[11:15] <zorglu_> !ntfs
[11:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:18] <cox3777> !ntfs
[11:18] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[11:18] <cox3777> what a morning
[11:18] <T3hWiz0rd> !samba
[11:18] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:18] <cox3777> well, i just need to access the drive, ftp the files and then format
[11:19] <T3hWiz0rd> i am adding my computer to a smb domain
[11:19] <cox3777> i did used to have a live mephis disk that was great for it but for the life of me i dont know whats happened to it and 0 cd-rs
[11:19] <T3hWiz0rd> anything in specific i need to do? like do i need a local user created on the machine for the domain login?
[11:19] <signal> hi all, i'm new of kubuntu and i'd like to know where adept apt store the "source" of the downloaded packages..
[11:19] <zorglu_> !sources.list
[11:20] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:20] <T3hWiz0rd> and also, how can I restart the samba service on kubuntu?
[11:20] <zorglu_> signal: in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:21] <signal> mm i think i was not clear, when i install a package, adept download the binary and store it in somewhere in my computer, adept remove the binary after installation or do I have to remove it manually?
[11:22] <zorglu_> the binary = the .deb ?
[11:22] <Jucato> signal: the .deb are downloaded in /var/cache/apt/archive/. I think it cleans that directory automatically after a certain amount of days
[11:22] <signal> zorglu_: yes (i think)
[11:22] <Jucato> but you can manually clean the archive with "sudo apt-get clean"
[11:23] <signal> ok thank you all
[11:23] <zorglu_> apt-get clean <- it would clean it for sure :)
[11:23] <zorglu_> ooppsaa the time to check the doc Jucato did it :)
[11:23] <Jucato> :)
[11:28] <cox3777> i ran the script as shown within ! ntfs
[11:28] <cox3777> under live cd, after running it wouldnt do anything when i clicked on the drives
[11:28] <vyoman> where can find a description of todays updates, i am fed-up applying updates without change description
[11:28] <cox3777> anyone got any ideas?
[11:29] <zorglu_> vyoman: if you find them, tell me :) i would be deeply interested too
[11:31] <vyoman> i know that the ubuntu folks have them in syn... - however i am not asking for adept fix just a pointer to a summary web page, someone must know, its out there!
[11:32] <zorglu_> in syn = ?
[11:32] <T3hWiz0rd> !swat
[11:32] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:33] <ubuntu_> hi ppl
[11:33] <T3hWiz0rd> *sighs*
[11:33] <T3hWiz0rd> swat wont work for me
[11:34] <vyoman> zorgulu - is it called synaptic the ubuntu update manager
[11:35] <vyoman> not sure how it is spelled, sory about that
[11:35] <zorglu_> !synaptic
[11:35] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[11:35] <zorglu_> that's it :)
[11:36] <zorglu_> !tab
[11:36] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[11:36] <zorglu_> this one is cool too :)
[11:37] <cox3777> is the command to edit the sources file in ubuntu this: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:37] <vyoman> yes but as a KDE user i am not that keen, to let GNOME application creep into my desktop (no offence gnomers!) :)
[11:37] <zorglu_> cox3777: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:38] <cox377> zorglu_: is that for ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:39] <zorglu_> kubuntu cox377
[11:39] <cox377> what about ubuntu, sorry i know this isnt ubuntu forums
[11:40] <zorglu_> !kdesu
[11:40] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:40] <zorglu_> !gksudo
[11:40] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[11:40] <zorglu_> cox377: "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:42] <scheuri> cox377: ubuntu has its own channel here: #ubuntu
[11:44] <cox377> damn this is pissing me off
[11:44] <cox377> I'm trying to recover my winxp password thats just decided that the password i'm entering is not right,
[11:45] <cox377> i found this linux os called "austrumi" that, on boot: "nt_pass" is supposed to load a script that allows u to edit xp psaswords
[11:45] <cox377> but it just says it cant find it on kernal or something of sorts
[11:48] <cox377> lol.. kicked the power button with my foot, doh
[11:50] <crimsun> heh.
[11:59] <pvandewyngaerde> i keep getting this error in my logs
[11:59] <pvandewyngaerde> Nov 22 10:28:39 pieter kernel: [17184923.284000]  floppy0: disk absent or changed during operation
[11:59] <pvandewyngaerde> Nov 22 10:28:39 pieter kernel: [17184923.284000]  end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[12:05] <rerere> what
[12:06] <rerere> what packages are includet in the kubuntu dvd anyone has a link?
[12:24] <cox377> whats the command for finding the ip address of the local machine?
[12:26] <icheyne> cox377, I think it's ifconfig
[12:26] <cox377> icheyne: ahh yeh
[12:26] <cox377> cheers
[12:29] <icheyne> cox377, pleasure
[12:30] <Kabal> Guys, how come Xorg is eating up 25% CPU usage, even when system is idle.. (?)
[12:48] <avvie> hi
[12:49] <icheyne> cox377, I forgot to tell you about apropos - it's a great way of finding commands. Checkout "man apropos".
[12:49] <cox377> icheyne: nice one
[01:00] <crazy_bus> Can anyone please help me.  For some reason amarok crashed on my.  And when I restarted to get it working again kde wouldnt load anymore.  Instead coming up with an error called kdeinit cannot load please check installation.  Also when I boot into recovery mode and type startkde the following error occurs; http://rafb.net/paste/results/1riww645.html
[01:02] <icheyne> crazy_bus, try asking on the kde channels - sorry I can't be more help
[01:03] <crazy_bus> I have already asked on #kde.  But I still havent been able to fix my problem
[01:03] <hirs> hi
[01:05] <hirs> I have a problem with fonts in some apps, I get no spaces in kopete conversation dialogs, what I say in conversation has, though
[01:05] <hirs> In amarok, I get ... instead of the song name, artist or album
[01:07] <hirs> but not always, only if the text has spaces on it, otherwise is shown right
[01:07] <hirs> I use the same font as other apps.. :(
[01:09] <tobias_> Everybody ready for buy nothing day on saaaturday?!!! :D
[01:09] <tobias_> Im gonna make a gigantic ubuntu banner I think, "give ubuntu, not crap!"
[01:12] <crazy_bus> when I try to load a kde program it comes up with this; error while loading shared libraries: libkdeui.so.4: cannot open shared object file: Input/output error does anyone know how to reinstall or fix libkdeui.so.4?
[01:15] <cox377> there are a few icons that i really like from thye ubuntu OS, i would like to use them with kubuntu, is it possible to download a ubuntu icon pack or something so i can use the ones i want, i;ve done a lot of googling without sucess.
[01:16] <Jucato> cox377: the orange Ubuntu Human icons are available in kde-look.org
[01:16] <wasp_ems> hello anyone know how to check the md5 of a dvd?
[01:17] <Jucato> !md5sum | wasp_ems
[01:17] <ubotu> wasp_ems: To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[01:17] <wasp_ems> thanx
[01:28] <cox377> Jucato: nice one, cheers
[01:30] <rag> hi *, how to add or modify entries for katapult?
[01:40] <tibbar> !nvidia
[01:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:45] <ustaadmin> hey
[01:46] <ustaadmin> i got trouble with kdm and login.access (/etc/security/access.conf) and kdm, kdm ignores the group setting i put in there and allows all users to login
[01:46] <ustaadmin> how can i solve this?
[01:47] <Bubba_Gump> what does shade do?
[01:47] <wasp_ems> Jucato, mdsum does not seem to exist on my system
[01:47] <Jucato> Bubba_Gump: rolls up the window so that you will only see the title bar
[01:48] <Bubba_Gump> heh, i thought it did :D
[01:48] <Bubba_Gump> good for small windows i guess
[01:48] <Jucato> good for any window that's not maximized :)
[01:49] <Jucato> wasp_ems: something like "md5sum image_file.iso"
[01:49] <Jucato> it's installed by default on any ubuntu system
[01:49] <ustaadmin> i guess access.conf is just for terminal/console, where can i set this for kdm?
[01:49] <wasp_ems> ok found it thanx
[01:52] <wasp_ems> Jucato, i run it but nothing is happenig
[01:53] <wasp_ems> Jucato, ok worked
[02:04] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[02:08] <mneisen> BluesKaj: hi
[02:09] <BluesKaj> hi mneisen, what's up today ?
[02:09] <mneisen> I am looking for a recent backport of subversion. Any guess?
[02:11] <BluesKaj> oooh,,sorry subversion?
[02:11] <BluesKaj> not familiar with that
[02:13] <mneisen> subversion is a modern replacement for cvs - revision control for source code and the like.
[02:13] <[GuS] > bonjour...
[02:13] <mneisen> welcome
[02:14] <twosouls82> hello :)
[02:16] <BluesKaj> hi [GuS] 
[02:17] <BluesKaj> hi twosouls82
[02:17] <[GuS] > Hi BluesKaj  :)
[02:17] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you social you :)
[02:19] <BluesKaj> hehe
[02:20] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[02:29] <BluesKaj> my google earth is having refresh probs ...the earth part of the GUI keeps losing it's pic and refreshing 3-4 times /sec ...it will track ti  destination but the constant flipping off and on is very annoying ...any ideas ?
[02:30] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: OpenGL works as assumed in other apps?
[02:31] <BluesKaj> yes, twosouls82...no other probs , just google earth
[02:32] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: have you done anyting that might have caused this, since the last successfull run (if any)?
[02:32] <ubuntu__> what means the GRUB error 17?
[02:33] <BluesKaj> yeah, twosouls82, i upgraded to Edgy :) ...earth worked ok in dapper
[02:34] <tibbar> LeeJunFan: you still there?
[02:34] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: after the upgreade mine worked fine, but I saw google earth passing bt from 310vn and so I have a edgy version of it installed.. can hardly be another binary version though
[02:34] <tibbar> !wine
[02:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:34] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: any stdout when you run it?
[02:35] <BluesKaj> stdout ?
[02:36] <twosouls82> ubuntu__: I think this means the drive is invisible to GRUB (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802)
[02:36] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: console output
[02:37] <saturn_>     -?
[02:37] <BluesKaj> I don't launch it from the console
[02:37] <BluesKaj> !ru
[02:37] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:37] <twosouls82> saturn_: english please :)
[02:37] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: so you know Russia? :{
[02:37] <twosouls82> :P
[02:37] <twosouls82> I meant
[02:38] <albert> what have i do for know what's my gnome version?
[02:38] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: launch it from the console
[02:38] <BluesKaj> NOPE, just recognize the alphabet :)
[02:38] <twosouls82> see if it turn up anything :)
[02:38] <albert> anybody can tell me how i do for know muy version of gnome?
[02:38] <ubuntu__> !ru | saturn_
[02:38] <ubotu> saturn_:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:39] <saturn_> I' m living there. Please don't speek so quick I'm translating.
[02:39] <BluesKaj> what's the run command for consol?
[02:39] <twosouls82> saturn_: still, rules are rules.. only English in here
[02:39] <albert> BluesKaj: yes
[02:39] <twosouls82> or pm :)
[02:40] <saturn_> bye
[02:40] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, I never run stuff from the console ... i don't know what command to use
[02:40] <mackay> alguem que fale portugues por aqui ?
[02:41] <BluesKaj> I use the console for installing and updating mostly
[02:41] <BluesKaj> !pt
[02:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:41] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: heh.. I didn't think that was possible on Linux :) Alt+F2 -> konsole <enter> -> google-earth <enter>
[02:42] <twosouls82> watch the output of the console, BluesKaj, usefull for troubleshouting
[02:43] <BluesKaj> what's the command to launch it in the console ... twosouls82...I know how to open and use console ..I just don't know what the launch or run command is !
[02:44] <visik7> why mdnsd isn't present in edgy while it is on dapper ?
[02:44] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: Alt+F2 (opens up 'run command' -> type 'konsole' press <enter> (which launches Konsole) -> type 'google-earth' followed by <enter>
[02:44] <BluesKaj> what's the command to launch it in the console ... twosouls82...I know how to open and use console ..I just don't know what the launch or run command is !
[02:45] <BluesKaj> READ!
[02:45] <twosouls82> like I said twice :).. type 'google-earth' followed by <enter>
[02:45] <eitch0000> anyone use kpowersave?
[02:45] <eitch0000> I've got a little problem
[02:45] <BluesKaj> it doesn't work twosouls82
[02:46] <eitch0000> I installed it, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[02:46] <BluesKaj> google-earth: command not found
[02:46] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: googleearth ?
[02:47] <twosouls82> I have both here :)
[02:47] <BluesKaj> googleearth: command not found
[02:48] <SF1> hi i am on the live cd atm just wondering how is a good way to partiosn my 250gb i just got
[02:48] <SF1> BluesKaj: try ./googleearth
[02:49] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: I wonder how that is possible; try 'dpkg -L google-earth'
[02:50] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: what does that return? no pasting in here please :)
[02:50] <twosouls82> unless it is an short notice
[02:51] <BluesKaj> ./googleearth: No such file or directory\
[02:52] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: did you install it from the .deb?
[02:52] <SF1> BluesKaj: how did you install google earth
[02:53] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: sudo aptitude search google | grep ^i
[02:53] <gnomefreak> BluesKaj: if not if you giv eme a few minutes ill post the .deb
[02:53] <twosouls82> that tells us how it was installed
[02:54] <twosouls82> gnomefreak: I'd rather give him/her the addition for his/her sources.list :)
[02:55] <gnomefreak> twosouls82: its not as safe that way since its a 3rd party repo but feel free. i have alot fo debs i have to get around to posting
[02:56] <tibbar> gnomefreak: I updated to 30%, then I gave up and formated installed edgy from cd and bought me a 7600gt, I like nvida alot more than ati
[02:56] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: for easyness, just use 'ls /usr/bin/google*' to be able too tell the name of the command
[02:57] <SF1> gnomefreak: what is a good way of partisoning my hdd? it 250gb i just got it, (went to the shop with tibbar)
[02:57] <twosouls82> and whether it exists or not
[02:57] <gnomefreak> SF1: good way? is anything on it already and what?
[02:58] <SF1> gnomefreak: nothing but if i want to reinstall kubuntu then i don't want to loose my files without backing up
[02:59] <SF1> gnomefreak: 200gb for /home,,,, i don't know how much i should give for what and how to format/mount it like that
[03:01] <gnomefreak> SF1: the default way that kubuntu formats it is fine unless you are going to put windows on it than install windows first and use parted (the installer) to install kubuntu and i have ubuntu on a 40 gig and have plenty of space
[03:02] <danny500> hey, how do I change the permissions on certaint folders in ubuntu that are under the root protection? I want to erase firefox 1.5 files and peplace them with firefox 2 files.
[03:02] <MidMark> someone has Edgy packages for digikam 0.9rc1?
[03:02] <SF1> gnomefreak: can i like give root 40gb and swap 3gb and home the rest?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> SF1: yes if you like
[03:02] <danny500> gnomefreak: yes
[03:03] <gnomefreak> danny500: chmod will change file permissions
[03:03] <danny500> weres that?
[03:03] <SF1> gnomefreak: i'll try something like that...
[03:03] <gnomefreak> danny500: in terminal type man chmod    or chmod --help whatever one is easier for you to understand
[03:04] <mneisen> I am looking for a recent backport of subversion. Any guess?
[03:05] <danny500> ok thanx
[03:06] <Lord_Alti> hi all
[03:06] <chg87> hi Alti
[03:10] <Lord_Alti> Hola, como estas? :D
[03:11] <BluesKaj> mneisen, https://launchpad.net/products/edgy-backports/+bug/71058
[03:11] <BluesKaj> !es
[03:11] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:11] <Lord_Alti> no hablo espaniol ^^
[03:12] <SF1> gnomefreak: does swap have to be a primairy patision?
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ok, then ...speak english ...I'm fine , how are you ? :)
[03:12] <Lord_Alti> hehe fine 2
[03:12] <cox377> my cd-rw seems to be playing silly buggers, is there a command to rest such a thing?
[03:12] <Lord_Alti> btw learning spanish atm
[03:12] <Lord_Alti> and just installed kubuntu
[03:12] <Lord_Alti> looks nice
[03:12] <mneisen> BluesKaj: thanks
[03:12] <BluesKaj> silly buggers?
[03:13] <cox377> BluesKaj: lol yeh
[03:13] <gnomefreak> i think so but not sure
[03:14] <gnomefreak> SF1: ^^^
[03:14] <SF1> ok
[03:14] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, i hate to admit it, but i used automatix to install google earth...I've since uninstalled both
[03:15] <woodefec> hi
[03:15] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: :) so you're ready to install the new one, if I got that right?
[03:15] <twosouls82> hih woodefec :)
[03:15] <BluesKaj> looking for a stable version of earth but from the search results i've found so far don't look good
[03:15] <BluesKaj> yes twosouls82, I am
[03:16] <woodefec> does the kubuntu installer give me an option to leave my old /home part. (fromm suse) untouched and make it my new home partition?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> are there any deb pkgsof google earth out there
[03:16] <BluesKaj> ?
[03:16] <Lord_Alti> as far is a saw nope
[03:16] <octan> hey all.. tell me if i have gotten this right.. 192.168.0.0/24 is like 192.168.0.0 -> 192.168.0.255 and 192.168.0.0/8 is like 192.168.0.0 -> 192.255.255.255 ?
[03:16] <woodefec> so i would have everything set from start
[03:17] <Lord_Alti> i think so
[03:17] <ubuntu__> !ip
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <woodefec> i need to migrate from the M$ contaminated system
[03:17] <Lord_Alti> never saw any option to do so
[03:17] <SF1> woodefec, i am in the livecd atm i dont think you have to
[03:17] <Lord_Alti> have 2 restart
[03:17] <woodefec> SF1 : i dont have to what?
[03:17] <SF1> woodefec, not sure just when in live cd have not tried
[03:18] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: pm ;)
[03:18] <woodefec> SF1 : i want to install it on hdd
[03:18] <woodefec> and leave my old /home/foo-user
[03:18] <woodefec> dir
[03:18] <woodefec> with all me data & settings!
[03:18] <SF1> woodefec, i want to do that too
[03:18] <woodefec> and?
[03:18] <crube> Is there is there any place where I could find more of icon sets, styles, decorations and all of that stuff?
[03:18] <woodefec> no answers?
[03:19] <woodefec> lets ask on #ubuntu
[03:19] <SF1> woodefec, k
[03:19] <rhodri> kde-look.org
[03:19] <gnomefreak> crube: kde-look.org
[03:20] <gnomefreak> !theme
[03:20] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:20] <murchadh> BluesKaj: 4.0.1693 beta Google Earth is running for me on 6.06 and 6.10. Can't remember where I got it though! (Just joined the channel, so I've just seen your most recent posts)
[03:20] <crube> gnomefreak: thanks :P
[03:21] <icheyne> woodefec, why don't you just backup your home partition and copy it over to the new install?
[03:21] <alti> back in action :D
[03:21] <murchadh> woodefec: I'v re-installed Kubuntu and just created a user with the same name as my existing user, and hey presto, new install old settings. e-mails, etc. all intact. Backup all data and go for it!
[03:22] <woodefec> murchadh : ok
[03:23] <woodefec> goodbye suse!
[03:23] <woodefec> ;P
[03:24] <rhodri> hi, i'm having problem with xgl when watching videos and dpms is causing the screen to blank and i can't turn it off.  does anyone know a fix/workaround?  or maybe is there any way i can "fake" some mouse or keyboard events to stop this happening?  thanks.
[03:25] <pinchartl> hi
[03:26] <Bubba_Gump> rhodri: have you played the videos in kaffeine? i think that has a built in keyboard faker
[03:26] <woodefec> thx, cu
[03:26] <pinchartl> is there a KUbuntu server edition, like there is a Ubuntu server edition ?
[03:26] <murchadh> woodefec: Does SuSE use dpkg? If so do a sudo dpkg -l >> ~/applist, this will create a list of installed apps. Handy when you're trying to remember all the little apps you had installed. Will lessen the chances of X start-up errors when looking for software referenced in your existing home directory.
[03:27] <Chousuke> pinchartl: I think they're the same thing
[03:27] <rhodri> Bubba_Gump: yes i use kaffiene, do i need to turn the option on?  i'll look into it now, thanks
[03:27] <Chousuke> pinchartl: as the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is mostly in the GUI and desktop features.
[03:27] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: how do i set the rest of my space to /home and how do i make extended patition swap?
[03:28] <cox377> whats the driver support like for Dial up PCI modems?
[03:29] <visik7> how can I get zeroconf:/ discover other peers ? avahi-daemon got it but zeroconf:/ doesn't
[03:30] <gnomefreak> ScarFreewill: use qtparted or parted ot gparted ;)
[03:30] <pinchartl> Chousuke: I'd like to be able to remotely log on the server (using vnc for instance), and I prefer KDE over Gnome. can I install KDE in Ubuntu ? is KDE well supported in Ubuntu, or is it a second class citizen ? Is it just a matter of configuring apt to get the KDE packages in the KUbuntu repositories ?
[03:30] <kamil_> SJOIN
[03:30] <Chousuke> pinchartl: The repositories are the same as far as I know. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:30] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: can i install it in the livecd
[03:31] <Chousuke> pinchartl: or if you don't want it all, just install kde packages manually
[03:31] <pinchartl> Chousuke: so there's basically no difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, except the install CDs ?
[03:31] <Chousuke> yeah, and default configuration (KDE vs. Gnome)
[03:31] <gnomefreak> live cd i think has parted already but yes you should beable to. i dont use livecd often i only use it to test things
[03:31] <pinchartl> Chousuke: thanks a lot for your help
[03:32] <Chousuke> You're welcome.
[03:34] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: nwm i dont
[03:34] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: have to its already installed on livecd...
[03:37] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: this qtparted looks esactly the same as the installer's program the prob is i don't know how to mount the stuff correctly or do i have to do that after it installed?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> ScarFreewill: not sure if you can mount them on livecd i dont see why not though
[03:40] <ScarFreewill> gnomefreak: not like mount to use them mount so that kubutu uses the 200gb for home and the 25gb for root and use the 1gb swap alltought i don't think swap needs to bemounted...
[03:45] <ScarFreewill> !format
[03:45] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:45] <ScarFreewill> !bot i don't use gnome this is #kbuntu
[03:48] <ScarFreewill> http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot2gh6.png can any one help me
[03:48] <Jucato> ScarFreewill: that would be System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks & Filesystems in Kubuntu
[03:50] <ScarFreewill> Jucato, can you help me?
[03:50] <Jucato> not really. I'm not good with partitioning either... I was just pointing out the equivalent Kubuntu app for mounting graphically
[03:50] <icheyne> murchadh, nice tip - I've saved it!
[03:51] <ScarFreewill> Jucato, yeah i knew that i was just a bit fustrated...
[03:51] <ScarFreewill> Jucato, do you mind looking at the pic....
[03:51] <Jucato> ok
[03:53] <Jucato> ScarFreewill: what are you trying to do? (came in late)
[03:54] <ScarFreewill> Jucato, you saw how i partitioned my hdd.. now i want /home to be 200gb / to be 23gb and swap looks fine..
[03:54] <Jucato> hm.. you don't have a / partition
[03:54] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: root
[03:55] <Jucato>  /root is not the same as /
[03:55] <SillyZ> gmorning
[03:55] <Jucato>  /root is the root user's home directory, equivalent to /home/user for normal users
[03:55] <Jucato>  / is the root (parent) directory
[03:55] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: i know but i call / the root dir
[03:55] <SillyZ> Im preparing to setup a new machine Dell E-1705 with KUbuntu, would someone have some time to point out anything I may need to know in advance on setting up on this particular machine?
[03:55] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: yeah...
[03:56] <Jucato> so that's just a label?
[03:56] <Jucato> anyway, what problems are you having?
[03:56] <ScarFreewill> Jucato: do i set where its gona get mounted where i set the label?
[03:56] <Jucato> um.. afaik, no
[03:57] <Jucato> mount points are created during installation or through fstab. QtParted knows nothing about mount points afaik
[03:57] <SillyZ> can always do a chroot /bin/bash /path/to/some/dir and that will become the new 'root' dir just to confuse things further
[03:57] <SillyZ> the chroot was common practice on setting up and compiling gentoo
[03:57] <TheGateKeeper> ScarFreewill: next form in the wizard will be where you tell it to mount the various partitions
[03:58] <ScarFreewill> TheGateKeeper: oms thanks allot for telling me that!!!
[03:58] <ScarFreewill> TheGateKeeper: oms rofl1!!!1!1!!1
[04:00] <ScarFreewill> i can't belive how lame that was i waited about 2 hours just to know that if i clicked next then i go on... anyway cya
[04:01] <davidm> hello, I'm running edgy 6.10 and I made the mistake of apt-get install k3d. The package seems broken and I can't get it installed or removed even using dpkg --purge --force-all k3d. All suggestions appreciated
[04:01] <ubuntu_> test
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu_: failed
[04:04] <bthibault> anybody have the sources.list line for the non-free repository
[04:04] <hastesaver> !repository
[04:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:04] <TheGateKeeper> bthibault: plf ?
[04:05] <bthibault> hastesaver: thanks
[04:06] <bthibault> TheGateKeeper: sorry, plf?
[04:07] <TheGateKeeper> bthibault: ## PLF REPOSITORY (Unsupported.  May contain illegal packages.  Use at own risk.)  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:08] <bthibault> TheGateKeeper: thanks , i was just looking for the flash plugin non free, not sure if its in plf or not
[04:09] <Jucato> !flashplugin-nonfree
[04:09] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[04:09] <danny500> Jucato
[04:09] <Jucato> danny500! :)
[04:09] <danny500> I got a question for you
[04:09] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[04:09] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:09] <TheGateKeeper> bthibault: also ^^^
[04:10] <bthibault> thanks
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> or use gnash (build from svn) seems to work fine for the limited amount of flash sites I go to
[04:10] <danny500> can I make Open Office Spread Sheet call phone numbers within a certaint column?
[04:10] <Jucato> bthibault: take note, that Flash 9 is still beta, and Seveas' Flash 9 version is still beta 1 (latest is beta 2)
[04:10] <danny500> like for call marketing purposes?
[04:10] <Jucato> danny500: not that I'm aware of
[04:10] <danny500> oh ok
[04:11] <danny500> do you know of a Program that I can put a bunch of numbers into and have it call them one by one and give them an autoamted message?
[04:11] <Jucato> hmm... nope. I'm not very familiary with telephony stuff
[04:12] <danny500> oh, is any one reading this know anything about this stuff?
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> If I did know how do that I wouldn't tell you (telemarketting is evil)
[04:12] <danny500> how is it evil?
[04:12] <Jucato> like spam
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> Yep exactly like spam but more intrusive
[04:13] <danny500> how else are companies going to get a hold of you?
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> If I want to get hold of a company I will contact them
[04:13] <danny500> write you?
[04:13] <danny500> ok well I'm going some were else for help, cya
[04:14] <Jucato> O.o
[04:14] <Jucato> sensitive guy :)
[04:14] <TheGateKeeper> danny500: if you telemarket me, you find yourself on my blacklist of companies I will NOT do buisness with
[04:14] <TheGateKeeper> damn too late
[04:14] <Jucato> hehe
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> He would be better off on somewhere where they develop a spam mailing program - trivial to change one to make it dial a modem
[04:15] <Jucato> well, like it or not, telemarketing puts food on someone's table... :)
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> Automated calling devices like he wants to make are illegal (in England)
[04:15] <TheGateKeeper> not if they phone me hehe
[04:15] <Jucato> he's not from England :)
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> Where is he from ?
[04:16] <Jucato> somewhere in US. forgot :)
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> Are phone autodialers legal in the US ?
[04:17] <dusterl> how do i control which init script will be executed on startup?
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> dusterl: update-rc.d
[04:18] <dusterl> thanks
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> dusterl: rcconf or sysv-rc-conf (are other alternatives)
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> dusterl: If you want to see them all at once sysv-rc-conf is as good as any but for making one small change update-rc.d is as easy as anything
[04:19] <davidm> h3sp4wn Yes autodialers are legal if you identify yourself at the beginning of the message and provide a contact number that you can call to be removed.
[04:19] <davidm> h3sp4wn in the US that is
[04:20] <billytwowilly> hi guys, is the new init stuff supposed to make booting take way longer?
[04:21] <murchadh> Jucato: Crack, arms manufacture and child prostitution all put food on someones table! Doesn't mean they're not evil! !->
[04:21] <Jucato> murchadh: yes, but compared to the ones you mentioned, it's not *that* evil
[04:22] <Jucato> inconvenient and annoying? yes. Inherently evil? I doubt it. anyway, this is -offtopic...
[04:23] <murchadh> Jucato: hehe!
[04:23] <billytwowilly> ok, what's the name of the new init system in edgy so I can look for ways to fix the boot time?
[04:23] <Jucato> upstart
[04:23] <Jucato> !upstart | billytwowilly
[04:23] <ubotu> billytwowilly: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[04:28] <ubuntu> !pl
[04:28] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:28] <ubuntu> !sp
[04:28] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[04:29] <ubuntu> !es
[04:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:31] <_nolte> Hi, I'm new, is there any KDE tool to configure and use pppoe like kppp ?
[04:31] <Jucato> _nolte: nothing graphical, at least not installed by default. so you have to type "sudo pppoeconf" in Konsole
[04:33] <_nolte> Jucato: i found pppoeconf and then did pon dsl-provider. perhaps i can find something in universe repos ?
[04:34] <Jucato> !knet | _nolte
[04:34] <ubotu> knet: The Knet is a frontend to pppd.. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6beta1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1017 kB, installed size 1584 kB
[04:34] <_nolte> Jucato: thanks, I'll try it.
[04:35] <Jucato> _nolte: that's the only one I know
[04:39] <casev01> hi
[04:40] <casev01> what i need to install beagle in kubuntu?
[04:40] <_nolte> Jucato: just installed knet.
[04:43] <TheGateKeeper> Jucato: has edgy settled down now?
[04:43] <Jucato> TheGateKeeper: it has always been "stable". as long as you don't upgrade from Dapper :)
[04:44] <ZmAY> anybody here for help?
[04:44] <TheGateKeeper> !ask
[04:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:44] <tibbar> TheGateKeeper: If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?
[04:44] <ZmAY> kubuntu freezes during installation
[04:45] <murchadh> Jucato: I'll second that. The upgrade is possible, but most people don't take the time to do it by the book. So the fresh install is the recomended option!
[04:45] <tibbar> If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?
[04:46] <TheGateKeeper> murchadh: 'by the book' you mean fdoving's wiki howto article?
[04:46] <ZmAY> any ideas what could be wrong?
[04:47] <tibbar> gnomefreak:  If I try to ./conf. wine then it tells me "No OpenGL development headers were found" what do I need to install to make this work?
[04:47] <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: well have you tried the cd self test to make sure that it is ok?
[04:48] <ZmAY> yes, it's original, i ordered it from their page
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: are you trying to put it on a hdd with a ntfs partitions taking the total hdd?
[04:48] <ubuntu> ZmY:  maybe the CD is corrupt (chek the md5 sum)
[04:48] <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: is your hdd ok?
[04:48] <ZmAY> not the total
[04:48] <ZmAY> yep
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> even if it's 'an original' still needs checking
[04:50] <ZmAY> it is checked
[04:52] <ZmAY> i check the cd, and then i click on install kubuntu.. the progress bar shows but then nothing happens
[04:52] <ZmAY> all the time 0%
[04:57] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[04:57] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:02] <ccc> is that new suse k-menu (kickoff?) released and available?
[05:03] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: fixed it?
[05:03] <BluesKaj> nope
[05:04] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: have you got the lastest ati driver installed?
[05:04] <BluesKaj> actaully I'm in windoes now ...unable to access kubuntu after entering those commands on that page i showed you
[05:06] <BluesKaj> not yor commands twosouls82  ...the ones on that URL I posted in the PM
[05:07] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: I know, I found that page you linked to in my history
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I get a prompt like this : (initramfs) ...I tried to startx , but not found ..."target file doesn't have /sbin/init"
[05:07] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: do you have a console messenger installed? so one could help you out without a running x?
[05:08] <Jucato> irssi is installed by default on Kubuntu
[05:08] <BluesKaj> i tried to get into irssi but 'not found"
[05:08] <Jucato> O.o
[05:08] <twosouls82> ;) Jacuto :)
[05:09] <twosouls82> Jucato: sorry, for the miss-spelling
[05:09] <Jucato> heh
[05:09] <ZmAY> TheGateKepper: i misunderstood you before, i have 3 partitions, on all 3 there is NTFS.. "[16:48]  <TheGateKeeper> ZmAY: are you trying to put it on a hdd with a ntfs partitions taking the total hdd?"
[05:09] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you could check to see if irssi is installed and if not install it using aptitude
[05:10] <twosouls82> like you did beofre
[05:10] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, this is the prompt i get after trying to boot into kubuntu ..  (initramfs)
[05:11] <BluesKaj> "target file doesn't have /sbin/init"
[05:11] <twosouls82> hmmzz.. lemme confirm my guess by Googling, BluesKaj
[05:11] <BluesKaj> ok twosouls82
[05:13] <ubuntu_> ! bot
[05:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:13] <murchadh> mount
[05:13] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: what does 'aptitude search upstart | grep ^i' tell?
[05:14] <twosouls82> not possible in that promt :\
[05:14] <twosouls82> prompt*
[05:14] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, i have no access to apt
[05:14] <twosouls82> no I got that when I released enter :\
[05:14] <twosouls82> my bad
[05:15] <BluesKaj> I'm in windows
[05:15] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you are missing the upstart package which has /sbin/init in it
[05:15] <twosouls82> I guess you might be missing more too
[05:15] <twosouls82> how could that be caused, BluesKaj?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> from the commands on that page URL that i posted earlier , the one with the frglx update etc
[05:17] <BluesKaj> twosouls82,  from the commands on that page URL that i posted earlier , the one with the frglx update etc
[05:17] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: while the dependicies where resolved to install xorg-driver-fglrx, any packages deinstalled?
[05:17] <BluesKaj> it's my fault , twosouls82  ...i thought it would work
[05:18] <BluesKaj> dunno twosouls82 , i rebooted
[05:18] <BluesKaj> and got that prompt
[05:18] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: shit can happen :) would be nice if we solved this, which is possible if you ask me
[05:18] <BluesKaj> ok , twosouls82 ..let's try
[05:19] <twosouls82> lemme Google some more first
[05:19] <twosouls82> ;)
[05:19] <ubuntu_> ! google
[05:19] <ubotu> Google is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux
[05:19] <twosouls82> :D
[05:19] <twosouls82> aye ubuntu_^5
[05:19] <BluesKaj> ok NP twosouls82 ... I have lots of time :)
[05:21] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: this is not going to be easy, but I am getting somewhere. still lots of reading :P
[05:22] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: btw, what happens when you boot in save mode?
[05:23] <BluesKaj> same thing twosouls82
[05:23] <ubuntu> can someone please help me get back into my linux box....
[05:23] <brink> wow kUbuntu is so wicked easy install , I have tried suse 10,1 7 days fusking around, fed zod 6 4 days fusking around and KUbuntu works straight from the install ,,, Very impressed to the TEAM, Thank You
[05:24] <mattjunx> is anyone here testing feisty? nobody's talking in #ubuntu+1
[05:24] <ubuntu> everytime I try to login.....i put in my password and it looks like it is going then back to the login prompt i go
[05:24] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you can use the live cd to mount the file system, chroot to it, and recreate the initrd and reinstall the kernel.. but a tut for it would be nice
[05:25] <mattjunx> if you're in a LiveCD, is it possible to chroot to your system on your harddrive to update packages?
[05:25] <ubuntu> im using the live cd now
[05:25] <twosouls82> I assume, something that logical, is possible :)
[05:25] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: mount --bind /proc and /dev and you will be fine
[05:25] <twosouls82> still looking for a confirmation on Google though
[05:25] <mattjunx> k
[05:26] <mattjunx> gotta burn a livecd then so I can fix feisty :P
[05:26] <BluesKaj> tut?
[05:26] <twosouls82> orial
[05:26] <twosouls82> :P
[05:26] <ubuntu> can some one help me log back into my system?
[05:27] <mattjunx> ubuntu: have you tried logging in via the console?
[05:27] <mattjunx> ctrl+alt+f1
[05:27] <mattjunx> if you can't log in via there, then you have a major problem
[05:27] <mattjunx> if you can log in via there, you probably have some corrupted software
[05:27] <ubuntu> give me some steps?...also after i log into the system what do i need to do?
[05:28] <mattjunx> alright
[05:28] <mattjunx> when you get to the log in screen, press ctrl+alt+f1
[05:28] <mattjunx> you'll have a textual log in prompt
[05:28] <mattjunx> enter your username and your password
[05:28] <mattjunx> (passwords don't show up as stars when you log in that way, so just type it in and hit enter anyways)
[05:28] <ubuntu> ok
[05:28] <twosouls82> BluesKaj:
[05:29] <ubuntu> then what?
[05:29] <twosouls82> lets try it
[05:29] <mattjunx> if you log in successfully (you'll get a username@hostname:~$ prompt
[05:29] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: pm?
[05:29] <ubuntu> right
[05:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You logged out?
[05:29] <ubuntu> yes
[05:29] <ubuntu> i am on the live cd now
[05:29] <mattjunx> if that doesn't work, you've got some issues that might take a bit of work to fix
[05:29] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: try pressing alt+ctrl=backspace
[05:29] <DaSkreech> + backspace
[05:30] <ubuntu> i was going to reinstall but it told me i had no root defined which i did
[05:30] <DaSkreech> There is no password on the CD as far as I know ?
[05:31] <mattjunx> DaSkreech: there isn't a password for the ubuntu user
[05:31] <mattjunx> root is probably randomly generated
[05:31] <mattjunx> I'll check since I'm gonna be booting in a livecd on my other computer in a couple minutes anyhow
[05:31] <DaSkreech> It's not it's disabled
[05:32] <mattjunx> how do you disable root?
[05:32] <mattjunx> like, nologin sort of thing?
[05:32] <mattjunx> because root still owns a lot of processes in a livecd...
[05:33] <ubuntu> rafter i restart and login to the console what do i need to do?
[05:33] <mattjunx> okay, I've got a question: what files do I need to copy from a LiveCD to get the ipw2200 firmware?
[05:33] <mattjunx> ubuntu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:33] <ubuntu> and that will fix my system?
[05:34] <mattjunx> maybe
[05:34] <mattjunx> if you can't log in, I know a way that might work
[05:34] <ubuntu> ok?
[05:34] <ubuntu> i am already using 6.10?
[05:35] <mattjunx> that updates the programs
[05:35] <ubuntu> right i now
[05:35] <mattjunx> well, I always use dist-upgrade just in case, but you could use upgrade
[05:35] <ubuntu> it started this morning saying my disk was full......but i am along way from being full
[05:36] <ubuntu> when i rebooted it wouldnt let me in
[05:36] <mattjunx> if you still can't log in, reboot, hit escape when you see the "grub loading stage2" thing, and boot into the topmost "recovery mode" option
[05:37] <mattjunx> when you get the "root@hostname:~#" prompt, run "passwd yourusername"
[05:37] <sonja-ny> Can he not make a second user/password and set the string to (0) for the password ONE ?
[05:37] <mattjunx> and you can change your password from there; it might be corrupted, who knows
[05:37] <mattjunx> sonja-ny: I have no idea :/
[05:37] <mattjunx> well, I'll be back soonish
[05:37] <ubuntu> if i could add another user....i could send all my stuff over to it
[05:38] <mattjunx> it'd probably be easier to fix your current profile
[05:38] <sonja-ny> sorry mattjunx , my install is soo good I just sticking around to help out, I got no problems to fix poor poor me
[05:38] <ubuntu> whats the commands to add a user?
[05:38] <mattjunx> adduser
[05:38] <sonja-ny> adduser
[05:38] <sonja-ny> oops
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: you probably want to edit adduser.conf first
[05:38] <mattjunx> you'll want to add yourself to a bunch of groups, though
[05:39] <mattjunx> adduser username groupname
[05:39] <Dr_willis> hmm.. even if the disk was full.. it still should of reserved like 5% for emergancyes..  odd.
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: saves having to type in all the groups manually
[05:39] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: What are you trying to do?
[05:39] <mattjunx> h3sp4wn: now you tell me :P
[05:39] <ubuntu> my system will not let me in
[05:39] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Since when?
[05:40] <mattjunx> h3sp4wn: uh, where do you set the default groups in adduser.conf?
[05:40] <ubuntu> every time i login in it goes straight back to the login prompt
[05:40] <ZmAY> does anyone know solution for this problem: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6474.0
[05:40] <ubuntu> little while ago
[05:40] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: You logged in from console?
[05:40] <sonja-ny> and ubuntu had a disk FULL
[05:40] <ubuntu> not yet i am when i reboot?
[05:40] <syntaxx> im having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> I mean you tried to login from the console and it logs in but logs you back out?
[05:41] <mattjunx> ZmAY: try running memtest86, you might have some bad RAM (that's happened to me before)
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Dink: Hey dink
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Dink: I was being an idiot :)
[05:41] <ubuntu> no i havent logged in from the console yet
[05:41] <ZmAY> ok..
[05:41] <mattjunx> does anyone here know uniq?
[05:42] <ubuntu> what group should i be in?
[05:42] <ubuntu> when i add the groupname?
[05:42] <mattjunx> adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin fuse
[05:42] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Can You mount the hard drive when in the CD?
[05:42] <mattjunx> and your username as another group (your primary group)
[05:42] <sonja-ny> ZmAY: you have the same settings as me I also have the amd 3200
[05:42] <ZmAY> ram is good
[05:42] <ubuntu> how would i do that?
[05:42] <ZmAY> dont know what to do
[05:43] <mattjunx> ZmAY: have you tested it overnight?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: mkdir drive
[05:43] <sonja-ny> Zmay , did you ever check the first disk you downloaded to C if it was correct
[05:43] <DaSkreech> sudo mount /dev/hda1 drive
[05:43] <DaSkreech> assuming that your Kubuntu is on hda1
[05:43] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: EXTRA_GROUPS="dialout cdrom floppy audio src video lp users uml-run"
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: --add_extra_groups to adduser (or set ADD_EXTRA_GROUPS=1) then you don't need to
[05:44] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda1 drive
[05:44] <ubuntu> mount: mount point drive does not exist
[05:44] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda2 drive
[05:44] <ubuntu> mount: mount point drive does not exist
[05:44] <ubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[05:44] <ubuntu> mount: mount point drive does not exist
[05:44] <ZmAY> my friend has this problem, my kubuntu works.. he's running winXP, and trying to install kubuntu on 1 partition, but after he click kubuntu-install, progress bar shows but stops at 0%
[05:44] <mattjunx> adduser --add_extra_groups ?
[05:44] <Hawkwind> !paste | ubuntu
[05:44] <ubotu> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:45] <mattjunx> Hawkwind: wrong syntax apparently
[05:45] <mattjunx> !help > Hawkwind
[05:45] <ubuntu> well i didnt think it was that much
[05:45] <mattjunx> I think
[05:45] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: Excuse me ?
[05:45] <ubuntu> or i would have used it
[05:45] <mattjunx> ubuntu: more than one line and it pisses people off
[05:45] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: you are getting a full drive error?
[05:45] <ubuntu> sorry just ill
[05:45] <Hawkwind> ubuntu: 2+ lines is too much
[05:45] <mattjunx> Hawkwind: we all got the message
[05:45] <ubuntu> ok
[05:45] <DaSkreech>  ubuntu: You missed teh mkdir drive command
[05:45] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: It was meant that way, it was addressed to ubuntu though if you look closely
[05:45] <mattjunx> oh?
[05:46] <Hawkwind> ubotu )-> ubuntu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <mattjunx> I thought you could use the > thing to redirect output
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Like that
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> No reason to spam the channel with it though
[05:46] <mattjunx> it'd be nice if it /msg'd someone instead
[05:46] <DaSkreech> Hey tackat
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> mattjunx: agreed
[05:46] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: It can, !paste > ubuntu would have done that
[05:46] <Hawkwind> mattjunx: I did it in here for a reason, a very obvious reason
[05:46] <mattjunx> alright, I'll be back soon, does anyone know what files I need to copy to get the ipw2200 firmware?
[05:47] <tackat> Hi DaSkreech
[05:47] <mattjunx> Hawkwind: oh, I get it, lawlzors
[05:47] <ubuntu> it let me mount it
[05:47] <DaSkreech> Whats ipw2200 ?
[05:47] <ZmAY> sonya-ny: any other suggestions?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Morning again :)
[05:47] <ubuntu> drive 3 that is where my ext partition is
[05:47] <PaulCarpenter> hey guys, does anyone here know about the fingerprint things that come with ibm laptops?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Ok when you ls on drive do you see the folders you expect?
[05:48] <sonja-ny> Zmay, I am tyracing back all my steps on the install, I know mine hung for a while on 0% then it kinda jumped fast up .. I left it for n hour and went shoping for shoes, when i got back it was done, mine also Did hang BUT installed flawless
[05:48] <ZmAY> in this case doesent move from 0%, it left it for 6h and nothing changed, still 0%
[05:49] <sonja-ny> Zmay, sorry in this case I am also stuck, I normally use a live CD like  slax kill bill , for testing out pcs , before i use a HDD installer
[05:50] <sonja-ny> Zmay did U use the 86 Kubuntu ?
[05:50] <ZmAY> yes
[05:50] <syntaxx> im having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?
[05:51] <sonja-ny> its the same specs as this pcs which is running just wicked, although with other linux flavours, They did tell me that my 400 Dram was to small , this one didnt
[05:51] <Sharketor> hello
[05:52] <DaSkreech> sonja-ny: Hi
[05:52] <sonja-ny> DaSkreech: Hi Sir, just having a blast Kubuntu , I am going to marry it
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Hey! I asked first!!
[05:53] <sonja-ny> well then ,, YEs I do, but i got an Iron clad PRE nup ok ?
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Hi Quinn_Storm
[05:56] <Quinn_Storm> hi
[05:56] <DaSkreech> sonja-ny: Man I was going for platinum but if you are ok with Iron
[05:57] <mjunx> yeah, well, now I don't know what to do...
[05:57] <sonja-ny> DaSkreech: iron is ok for me , i just dont want you marrying me for my money and my HOG's or my dodge trucks lol
[05:58] <DaSkreech> Oh No worries about that :)
[05:58] <sonja-ny> DaSkreech: my prenup has s3x four times a day in it, can you live with that ?????
[05:58] <cdc> Hi
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Sure as long as they are all within 30 minutes of each other :)
[05:59] <cdc> Are there any problem with dhclient and ipw3945??
[05:59] <cdc> The wireless card seem to work properly when I set static IP
[06:00] <cdc> But it cannot get IP from DHCP server
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Man kubuntu is felling ignored during that :)
[06:00] <sonja-ny> cdc is this the only pc on the router ?
[06:00] <cdc> no
[06:01] <sonja-ny> crube: I work from my home office , I got loads of time ...........................
[06:01] <cdc> Ops
[06:01] <cdc> time to go
[06:01] <cdc> I'll try it tomorrow
[06:01] <cdc> bye
[06:01] <sonja-ny> cdc good luck
[06:02] <cdc> thx
[06:03] <syntaxx> im having problem in tvtime sound im using pinnacle pctv pro.. images are fine is just that no sound/buzzz sound anyone here who can help me?
[06:04] <lotusleaf> If a user installs Ubuntu and installes Kubuntu-desktop and eventually uses Kubuntu as their desktop, as well as additional things like amarok and other fresh new releases via kubuntu.org repos, should they add the kubuntu.org kde repo (latest) as well? are there a lot of new kde packages that don't make it to the ubuntu repos aside from amarok?
[06:05] <trappist> lotusleaf: I do
[06:06] <sonja-ny> lotusleaf: Hell YES
[06:06] <lotusleaf> trappist: thx ;-)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: Just monitor the topic of this chan. All new apps that get released are announced here
[06:06] <lotusleaf> sonja-ny: heh, thx ;)
[06:06] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: thx =)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: Basically It's Koffice Amarok and KDE releases
[06:06] <mjunx> that's all I've ever seen
[06:06] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: thx and do misc. libs and such get updated too in the kubuntu repo that don't hit the ubuntu repo?
[06:07] <mjunx> did they ever backport libxine 1.1.2 (I think it was that) so that amarok-xine could play flac in dapper?
[06:07] <mjunx> lotusleaf: not that I've seen, but it's possible
[06:07] <mjunx> they'd probably get updated in edgy-backports (or the -backports for your release) if anything
[06:07] <lotusleaf> mjunx: k thx =)
[06:08] <lotusleaf> awesome, appreciate the quick & helpful answers despite the many tired people in various channels right now. ;-)
[06:08] <mjunx> lucky you; I'm not getting any answers in #ubuntu+1 :(
[06:08] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: That would be the backports
[06:09] <mjunx> well, brb, gotta restart X to get 915resolution applied... I hate this hack
[06:09] <lotusleaf> DaSkreech: k thx =)
[06:11] <mjunx> I've gotta script this someday
[06:11] <mjunx> until Xorg 7.3 (I think that's the one) can detect hardware on the fly like it should
[06:12] <DaSkreech> 7.3 good lord that's a long way away
[06:12] <mjunx> I know
[06:12] <mjunx> but I think it's gonna be in feisty+1
[06:13] <mjunx> which is why ubuntu's not going to bother making Xorg <7.3 easily configurable since it'd be a "waste of time"...
[06:13] <mjunx> I think it'd be useful since Ubuntu will be one of the only distros that uses 7.3 in its stable release for a while...
[06:13] <mjunx> (gentoo doesn't count since they use up to date packages all the time)
[06:14] <voidmage> gentoo never counts :P
[06:17] <BluesKaj> ok guys , I'm running the live cd in order to reinstate job control/kernel ... any ideas ?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> in other words,what's next ?
[06:17] <mjunx> BluesKaj: are you running feisty?
[06:17] <BluesKaj> edgy
[06:17] <mjunx> damn
[06:21] <sonic> Anyone here use Kmail?
[06:21] <mjunx> me
[06:21] <sonic> Hi mjunx
[06:21] <mjunx> hey, sonic
[06:21] <sonic> Just wondering do I have to keep all my sent items it the same folder for all acounts?
[06:22] <sonic> eg I set up a mail account
[06:22] <sonic> My 'sent items', 'drafts' etc all go into the dirs in 'Local folders'
[06:22] <sonic> I want them to go into dirs under the account name
[06:22] <e1mer> !feisty
[06:22] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[06:23] <ibert_> sonic: if you are using an imap server like gmx this does'nt make sense
[06:23] <sonic> ibert_: why?
[06:23] <mjunx> hmm, I don't know specifically since I put then all in sent-items
[06:23] <mjunx> if there's no option specific to the account options, you can make filters that puts them where you want
[06:23] <sonic> See I wanted a sent items dir for each account
[06:23] <sonic> There are options but
[06:24] <sonic> I get strange errors
[06:24] <sonic> I can set the destination folders for each account
[06:24] <ibert_> sonic: but that' fine, isn't it?
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> You could use procmail for sorting your mail out
[06:24] <sonic> but when I go to send a message I get:
[06:25] <ibert_> sonic: I use it like this
[06:25] <trappist> sonic: you can set this stuff up in kmail
[06:25] <trappist> sonic: (I assume you're using kmail)
[06:26] <sonja-ny> I have three printers hooked up to this pc, some via ftp , etc.. I have found all the good ones, but i also have a sleazy hp deskjet D2330 , which IS picked up by kubuntu, but its so NEW I know there are no drivers for linux, any way i can PROBE it in a term etc... I dont realy need it, its just handy for little docs i print out,, Its the only one that dont work ?
[06:26] <trappist> sonic: just edit your identity and go to the 'advanced' tab
[06:27] <syntaxx> ok my tvtime already have sound after doing modprobe -r bt878 bttv and modprobe snd_bt87x modprobe bt878 now how can i make it permanently? that i dont have to redo it everytime i restarted my ubuntu?
[06:28] <sonic> trappist: I did that but I'm getting errors saying this could be because I do not have permissions on this resource
[06:28] <sonic> I presume that's the mail server itself
[06:28] <trappist> syntaxx: add modules you don't want to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, and add ones you want to /etc/modules
[06:28] <ibert_> syntaxx: in /etc/rc.local
[06:28] <trappist> sonic: yep that's probably the imap server
[06:28] <trappist> sonic: I use courier-imapd on my mail server and it all works well
[06:29] <sonic> It's just been suggested to me that I should put dirs like 'sent-items', 'trash' etc shold be subdirs of the 'inbox'. Is this true?
[06:29] <syntaxx> trappist: ok so im gonna add blacklist bttv and in /etc/modules the bt878 and snd_bt87x?
[06:29] <sonic> They're usuallly on the same level as the inbox in my experience
[06:29] <trappist> sonic: that might work out better for you, yeah
[06:30] <trappist> syntaxx: that ought to do it
[06:30] <syntaxx> trappist: and it will not affect anything that is auto loaded at boot?
[06:30] <sonic> The dirs don't exist on the imap server so should I set the permissions so that I can create the dirs on the server?
[06:31] <trappist> syntaxx: it will prevent things you don't want from loading, and it will auto-load what you want - shouldn't affect anything else
[06:31] <syntaxx> trappist: ok then.. ill reboot and try thanks
[06:31] <trappist> sonic: or create them on the server yourself - that's what I do
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !fiesty
[06:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <unrealbr> abre o konsole e?
[06:33] <unrealbr> ooops
[06:33] <unrealbr> sry
[06:33] <sonic> Cheers guys thanks for the help
[06:37] <michael_> Hi, I have lost the wireless in system settings. Is there a way to get Kubuntu as when it was newly installed?
[06:37] <mjunx> michael_: have you tried running kcontrol to see if it's in there?
[06:38] <mjunx> alt+f2 -> type kcontrol -> enter
[06:38] <michael_> Yes, I was trying with ndiswrapper and installing a Debian kernel so I think I change configuration files
[06:39] <mjunx> well, ndiswrapper is beyond my realm of knowledge
[06:40] <Bubba_Gump> any know of a good p2p client
[06:40] <Bubba_Gump> ?
[06:40] <Dr_willis> depends on the network
[06:40] <Dr_willis> theres ooooodles of p2p clients out
[06:40] <syntaxx> trappist: i rebooted but still i need to do it
[06:40] <Dr_willis> !p2p
[06:40] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[06:41] <Bubba_Gump> i'm using aMule at the moment
[06:41] <Bubba_Gump> which is good for hard to find files and such :)
[06:41] <sonja-ny> amule a minute virus lol
[06:42] <DaSkreech> !fluxbuntu
[06:42] <ubotu> fluxbuntu is a Ubuntu-derivative based on the FluxBox Desktop Environment. It is lightweight, swift and sleek. | Fluxbuntu Support Channel: #fluxbuntu on freenode | Fluxbuntu Homepage: http://fluxbuntu.org/ | The Fluxbuntu Community: http://community.fluxbuntu.org/
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Egads - another one?!
[06:42] <DaSkreech> So there is a fluxbuntu-manager pacakge?
[06:42] <Dr_willis> how about an Icewmubuntu
[06:42] <defrysk> Bubba_Gump, try nicotine
[06:42] <Dr_willis> and a windowmakerubuntu
[06:42] <Bubba_Gump> nicotine?
[06:43] <defrysk> Bubba_Gump, a souolseek clone
[06:43] <defrysk> soulseek*
[06:43] <Bubba_Gump> heh :)
[06:43] <Bubba_Gump> ok
[06:43] <twosouls82> museek+? :)
[06:43] <twosouls82> or better museeq, qt fork of it
[06:43] <icheyne> Bubba_Gump, ktorrent and http://torrentz.com
[06:43] <defrysk> is there a kde clone for nicotine ?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I think someone should make a "multi-ubuntu" that just asks what desktops to install.. and downloads the packages during the install.
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> and, one more thing :)
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> a good virus scanner
[06:44] <Bubba_Gump> anyone know of one?
[06:44] <defrysk> get your latest ktorrent here : http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-edgy/
[06:44] <twosouls82> defrysk: there is museeq a fork of museek+, which is a slsk client using the Qt toolkit
[06:44] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: Hell yes KDE all the way
[06:44] <icheyne> Bubba_Gump, antivirus is not really required
[06:44] <defrysk> twosouls82, good to know :)
[06:44] <sonja-ny> Bubba_Gump: on linux lol hmmmmmmm not needed
[06:45] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,   all these variants with just different desktop and eye candy for the splash screens are getting silly. :)
[06:45] <londo4> help::: Mixer cannot be found
[06:45] <Bubba_Gump> very nice :D
[06:45] <icheyne> Bubba_Gump, AVG do one, but I don't use it
[06:45] <twosouls82> defrysk: there is a repo listed for dapper and edgy on their site
[06:45] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: yes true but each to there OWN, thats linux I love KDe, gnome is ok , but not for me
[06:45] <defrysk> not a repo but there is a directory for dapper also
[06:45] <defrysk> twosouls82, http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/svn-dapper/
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  right. but theres no need for me to get a seperate' fluxubuntu' cd - since it should just be an apt-get install away....
[06:46] <twosouls82> defrysk: I meant for museeq, the slsk client
[06:46] <twosouls82> :)
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  ive had to explain to way too many people that kubuntu and ubuntu are  the same core with just different packages. :)
[06:46] <defrysk> twosouls82, oh hehe
[06:46] <londo4> sound card no installed[06:46] <defrysk> twosouls82, link ?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> http://fluxbuntu.org/   heh
[06:47] <londo4> Mixer cannot be found
[06:47] <Dr_willis> Fluxbuntu Linux on Distrowatch; Sony Playstation 3
[06:47] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: you right , to WIN over more linux users from winsucks, we need to have a good install and BTW all the linux distros I have used, and live cds too, Kubuntu is the BEST i have ever had
[06:47] <twosouls82> defrysk: http://www.museek-plus.org/wiki/MuseekOnDebian .. the 'On Ubuntu GNU/Linux' section
[06:48] <defrysk> twosouls82, thanks :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  for my laptop its kicks booty. :) i just put that 'linux mint' ubuntu variant.. (guess he couldent think of a mintubuntu name)
[06:48] <Clinton__> I've got a camera which did automount just fine under Kubuntu, now when I plug it in I get the standard dialog asking me what to do.  I select "Open a window" for it, and nothing happens.  When I look at the mount, the camera hasn't been mounted.  Anyone have an idea what might be happening here?
[06:48] <londo4> Admiral_Chicago, could you help me? I was trying to fixe it but I did not get it work
[06:48] <twosouls82> defrysk: read acrefully before just issueing the commands there
[06:48] <twosouls82> :)
[06:48] <twosouls82> replace branch with edgy
[06:48] <twosouls82> carefully*
[06:48] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: you have a link i want to convert my pressario R3000 over
[06:49] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  for mint linux? i got it from that Disrtowatch page.
[06:49] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: thanks googling it now
[06:49] <defrysk> twosouls82, , its bookmarked , gonna check it out tomorrow :)
[06:49] <defrysk> distort watch ?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Distrowatch
[06:50] <yoyo> slt tous le monde
[06:50] <defrysk> !fr | yoyo
[06:50] <ubotu> yoyo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:50] <twosouls82> aye defrysk :)
[06:50] <Dr_willis> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fluxbuntu
[06:51] <londo4> help
[06:51] <londo4> Help
[06:51] <londo4> sound card driver
[06:53] <londo4> Who can help me with sound card driver problem?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> londo4: Which sound card?
[06:55] <londo4> I got onboard soundcard
[06:55] <sonja-ny> londo4: can you tell us the pc specs so we can have a look ?
[06:55] <campbch> !midi
[06:55] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[06:56] <londo4> yes, Dell Optiplex G1
[06:56] <londo4> P2
[06:57] <DaSkreech> londo4: What does lshw tell you?
[06:58] <londo4> There is not sound, I see a icon it says Mixer cannot be found
[06:58] <sonja-ny> londo4:  did it work in winblows ???
[06:58] <londo4> Yes it works in windows
[06:58] <DaSkreech> I'd guess yes :)
[06:59] <sonja-ny> sorry just asking , no ned to fix something thats dead lol
[06:59] <londo4> I have crystal WDM codec sound card
[06:59] <DaSkreech> londo4: Can You go to a terminal and type lshw
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:59] <sonja-ny> Ahhhhhhh
[06:59] <londo4> its than
[07:00] <campbch> !lshw
[07:00] <ubotu> lshw: information about hardware configuration. In component main, is standard. Version 02.06-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 266 kB, installed size 676 kB
[07:01] <sara> mites oli
[07:02] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Small I today
[07:02] <londo4> DaSkreech>
[07:03] <DaSkreech> yes londo4
[07:03] <inkwell> small 1?
[07:03] <inkwell> i?
[07:03] <DaSkreech> small i
[07:03] <inkwell> o
[07:03] <DaSkreech> k
[07:03] <londo4> a iordy audio
[07:03] <inkwell> i'm goin nuts tring to learn this linux stuff
[07:04] <inkwell> i try one thing and screw something else up
[07:04] <londo4> Do I have to see some specifically place?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> londo4: I'm looking for a troubleshooter
[07:07] <londo4> DaSkreech"
[07:07] <londo4> Ok
[07:07] <DaSkreech> londo4: incedentially you can ask in #ubuntu as well the answer they come up with will be the same as the one we come up with
[07:07] <DaSkreech> inkwell: What did you break :)
[07:08] <inkwell> aptitude
[07:08] <DaSkreech> inkwell: What's it saying?
 With that answer I can`t make ik work
[07:09] <DaSkreech> What did they say?
[07:09] <londo4> they geve me a link to read
[07:09] <inkwell>  Type 'nvidia-glx' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:09] <londo4> but I did not foud the soluction
[07:09] <londo4> I want to google also
[07:10] <Dr_willis> inkwell,  this is when it pays to learn the basics first.. then slowly start tweaking/changing things.
[07:10] <inkwell> i quess so
[07:10] <Dr_willis> inkwell,  sounds like you got a typo on your        /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:10] <DaSkreech> londo4: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5464&highlight=audio+irq
[07:10] <inkwell> yea
[07:10] <Dr_willis> 'crawl/walk/run/fly' :)
[07:10] <inkwell> reinstall?
[07:11] <londo4> Ok
[07:11] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Ha ha No. Can you pastebin your sources?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> !pastebin > inkwell
[07:11] <londo4> I will go there
[07:11] <Dr_willis> reinstall = the windows answer
[07:11] <DaSkreech> the file you are looking for is /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:11] <Dr_willis> LEARN the system and learn how to fix things = the linux answer
[07:12] <inkwell> when u paste? whats that do in that screen?
[07:13] <inkwell> i paste what i'm getting for an error in the big box
[07:13] <inkwell> ?
[07:13] <Dr_willis> pastebin is a web site you can cut/paste text to - then you give us the url of the paste, so we can se it in out browsers.
[07:13] <sonja-ny> inkwell: try this site http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[07:13] <Dr_willis> a paste of the apt.sources file is proberly a start.
[07:14] <inkwell> i like driving myself nuts with learning new stuff
[07:14] <Dr_willis> 'crawl/walk/run/fly' :)
[07:14] <sonja-ny> inkwell then TRY that link ?
[07:14] <Dr_willis> when in doubt.. read, read , read, read....
[07:14] <Dr_willis> it slowly starts fitting all togeher
[07:15] <sonja-ny> linux is NOT windows,,so dont ask us to make it work like it,, ask bill gates to get better hehehehe, or steal more from US
[07:15] <DaSkreech> inkwell: When you paste in the box it should refresh the page. Give us teh URL at teh top
[07:15] <inkwell> ok
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Then we can all see it if we want to :)
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Without disturbing those who don't want to see it
[07:16] <DaSkreech> YEah I get that a lot
[07:17] <inkwell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33316/
[07:17] <DaSkreech> but you are going to get O-T real fast :)
[07:17] <inkwell> right?
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Yes sir
[07:18] <sonja-ny> Yes Sir inkwell did you SUDO IT ?
[07:18] <inkwell> sudo what?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> inkwell: can you copy the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[07:18] <otaku-san> sudo....at the beginning of a command that needs root access
[07:18] <DaSkreech> inkwell: press Alt+F2 and type kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:19] <inkwell> past this?
[07:19] <sonja-ny> inkwell: linux has TWO logins one is @ user one is ROOT, we need the ROOT commands
[07:19] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Yes
[07:20] <inkwell> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33317/
[07:20] <otaku-san> sonja-ny: should of probably started my explanation like that ;)  I'm so dumb
[07:20] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Did you put in that nividia-glx at the top?
[07:20] <sonja-ny> inkwell: thats what we need thank you
[07:20] <kittisak> hello everybody
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Hi
[07:21] <inkwell> i dunno
[07:21] <otaku-san> howdy
[07:21] <inkwell> maby
[07:21] <inkwell> should i take it out?
[07:21] <sonja-ny> otaku-san: sorry my bad i am just helping out , i aint no guru, just N end user, you take it from here and sorry
[07:21] <TheGateKeeper> inkwell, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:22] <DaSkreech> inkwell: yes
[07:22] <otaku-san> sonja-ny: no I'm with you...I'm so n00b.  I was complimenting you....
[07:22] <sonja-ny> otaku-san: then lets have @ beer and @ smoke and be friends
[07:23] <DaSkreech> inkwell: that should make aptitude work again
[07:23] <kittisak> everybody help me !!!
[07:23] <kittisak> please
[07:23] <DaSkreech> inkwell: want to learn some more about that system
[07:23] <DaSkreech> kittisak: You honestly don't want that
[07:23] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[07:23] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:23] <otaku-san> sonja-ny: Deal!  Nice to meet cha'.  *sips beer*
[07:23] <sonja-ny> kittisak: I am @ lesbian do you realy want my help ?
[07:24] <Dr_willis>  @ lesbian ?
[07:24] <kittisak> i have problem ISPConfig with postfix,can use email client but, test send from yahoo relay access denied
[07:24] <sonja-ny> otaku-san: got smoke too, peace pipe
[07:24] <otaku-san> sweeet
[07:24] <sonja-ny> yahooooooooooo omFG does anyone use that spam anymore ??
[07:25] <Tm_T> Er?
[07:25] <inkwell> i took the nvidia line out in kate but it won't save
[07:25] <Lynoure> Tm_T: indeed
[07:25] <kittisak> F1 F1 Please :-)
[07:25] <miso> I'm considering running a web server (apache) on my box so that family can see photos. Any suggestions for a decent photo album generator?
[07:26] <Lynoure> kittisak: F1? That's the first of the function keys, you'll have to press it yourself :)
[07:27] <kittisak> i have problem ISPConfig with postfix,can use email client but, test send from yahoo relay access denied
[07:27] <TheGateKeeper> inkwell, follow the url I gave you, if you want to edit your sources so Run Command... then kdesu kate /etc/sources.list
[07:27] <sonja-ny> Lynoure: is not F1 that European racing like nascar but shumi always wins aka farrarri
[07:28] <Lynoure> kittisak: I use exim4 myself, so my postfix skills might be rusty, but have you already configured into it what domains it accepts mail for?
[07:28] <sonja-ny> kdesu ??? damn it TheGateKeeper is that another sudo command ?
[07:29] <miso> I'm thinking a PHP generated album but opinions appreciated
[07:29] <DaSkreech> kittisak: ISPconfig?
[07:29] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, yes, sudo you use for cli commands for gui apps you prefix with kdesu
[07:30] <kittisak> ISPConfig last version
[07:30] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: thank you sir, googling it now
[07:31] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, np :-)
[07:31] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: http://www.ispconfig.org/, I assume
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Hi arafat
[07:32] <inkwell> thanks for your patience, annoy ya later
[07:32] <DaSkreech> inkwell: gone?
[07:32] <sonja-ny> moin moin arafat
[07:32] <Lynoure> kittisak: if you are paying someone for the use of the panel, they could help you. I do almost all my admining on a command line and cannot tell you how to use ISPConfig for it
[07:32] <inkwell> doc appt.
[07:32] <inkwell> be back soon
[07:32] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, a little collection of bits & pieces I have put together: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/
[07:35] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper:  you may find D. Bouley's guide helpfull, Thank you ,,, and YEs i do find it easy to use, nice Guide BTW , keep it up , its the way to introduce more peeps to linux
[07:35] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, pleased you like it :-)
[07:37] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: the pleasure was all mine, and yes I will eventually release my blog on linux distros i have tried and made them work from 64 AMD to P2 5 gig HDD boxes, they all , work fast
[07:45] <sonja-ny> Is there any way in a term window, I can reformat my hard drive and ADD another partion , so I can switch over from one linux distro to another, but NOT loose my country tunes and some live DVDS I want to keep , before i switch over a suse box to Kubuntu ?
[07:46] <DaSkreech> londo4: how are you doing?
[07:46] <Dink> DaSkreech, huh ?
[07:46] <londo4> to bad man\
[07:47] <londo4> I did not fixe it
[07:47] <DaSkreech> londo4: that's too bad then?
[07:47] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, use gparted livecd
[07:47] <londo4> very bad
[07:47] <Chris_Swift> Hi, anyone know where I can get the Edgy KUbuntu Source code?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> londo4: try searching for DELL and sound on the forums
[07:47] <londo4> there is someone who knows
[07:47] <londo4> ok
[07:47] <DaSkreech>  apparently a lot of Dells use that card
[07:47] <londo4> Ok
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: Umm mind being a bit more specific?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: great part message :)
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Dink: I'm being an idiot :0
[07:48] <Chris_Swift> The whole code
[07:48] <Chris_Swift> like a Source CD
[07:48] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: ???
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: I guess you could install it and then just get source packages
[07:49] <Chris_Swift> Any idea with install?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Dink: the PS3 can't possibly be used as a DVR
[07:49] <Chris_Swift> lol, PS3 isnt that good
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: again not sure what you are asking
[07:49] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: thanks for the wonderfull advice , once again
[07:49] <Chris_Swift> Any idea how to get it without installing Kubuntu?
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, yw :-)
[07:49] <DaSkreech> packages.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <velle> Hey. Are the mailing lists really the recommended way to ask questions (besides IRC)? I think the system is extremely primitive. What do you think about that?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> velle: how is it private?
[07:50] <Dink> If you install linux on it i guess you could do it from there but i dont use DVR now so no clue on how it all works
[07:50] <DaSkreech> excludes people with internet connections?
[07:50] <Chris_Swift> thanks
[07:50] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, there are several partition apps, use whatever you are comfortable using
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Dink: well there are no TV In slots are there? no cable in either
[07:51] <velle> DaSkreech: I said primitive, not private
[07:51] <DaSkreech>  so how would it get a signal?
[07:51] <Dink> run myth client on it or something and push it to there ?
[07:51] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, might also be of interest: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:51] <DaSkreech> velle: Ah perhaps but they are easily archivable and searchable which makes hem very good for historical and research purposes
[07:51] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: I am switching over a suse box to Kubuntu , but i wanted to save my Country music and avis. Garth brooks etc....
[07:51] <Dink> you would still need another comp to get the signal
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: I'm hearing there are source CDs?
[07:52] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, you could also burn to dvd if you have a burner
[07:52] <binks> hi can someone help with a strange edgy problem
[07:52] <BluesKaj> well DaSkreech, i managed to do some damage to Edgy while trying to fix some Google Earth GUI probs ...now i can't boot into edgy  ... I get this prompt (initramts) after the message: target filesystem doesn't have /sbin.init
[07:52] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: are you married lol ,, damn it its all i needed
[07:52] <velle> but why not normal forums?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> velle: there are forums as well if you want to use those
[07:53] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, :-)
[07:53] <binks> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[07:53] <BluesKaj> err... /sbin/init
[07:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: check if you have a /sbin/init :)
[07:53] <velle> and... is the mailing lists the typical way to get help? or the forums?
[07:53] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: NO its an old DELL no burner but been with me for all my life, and she is fast as hell I tuned it... I just want my movies and music and konvert her to Kubuntu
[07:53] <DaSkreech> velle: to get help? the forums
[07:54] <DaSkreech> velle: to have input on the future of Kubuntu would be mailing list
[07:54] <BluesKaj> I can't DaSkreech...i can't boot into edgy ...running off the live cd right now
[07:54] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: I can burn on this pc its an amd 64 bit and use the disks to live the older pc
[07:54] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Right so mount your drive
[07:55] <ruedi> !torvalds
[07:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about torvalds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:55] <happycow-> When Kubuntu asks me to update the system, should I just update anything it says ?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> I would if I knew how , DaSkreech
[07:55] <sonja-ny> linus torvalds ..MY GOD
[07:55] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, well if you want a fast distro then have a look at arch, you have to build it from a base system, but it's fast, kubuntu has many attributes but speed ain't one of them
[07:55] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: do you know what drive you have LInux on?
[07:55] <velle> DaSkreech: Do you use the mailing lists? dont your email client get totally flooded?
[07:55] <BluesKaj> hda3 i think
[07:56] <DaSkreech> velle: depends on what you are subscribed into
[07:56] <sonja-ny> TheGateKeeper: can we take this private.... I dont want to be told OFF ..... using a none Kubuntu format ?
[07:56] <velle> DaSkreech: and there is only one way of cleaning: manually
[07:56] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok then type mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[07:56] <TheGateKeeper> sonja-ny, yes by all means
[07:56] <londo4> Help!!Help -->>> looking in the KDE window the little sound icon has a red X on it and says "mixer
[07:56] <DaSkreech> velle: Cleaning?
[07:57] <jerod> hi
[07:57] <DaSkreech> londo4: wasn;t like that before?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> hi
[07:57] <londo4> be found"KMix. The is a older Dell computer OptiPlex GX1
[07:57] <londo4> It was
[07:57] <SeanTater> Does anyone recommend a audio CD ripping program that allows manually setting where the audio files are to be saved?
[07:57] <jerod> hab mal ne frage. wie kann ich flash unter 64 amd installieren bei kubuntu
[07:57] <velle> DaSkreech: aaahhm, removing the unwanted mails, if I dont want to read anything from a thread, I still have to delete all the incoming
[07:57] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: Konqueror
[07:57] <LjL> !de | jerod
[07:57] <ubotu> jerod: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:58] <DaSkreech> velle: Oh yes I guess that would be nsty but then if you have such little interest just read teh archives
[07:58] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: audiocd takes quite a while and does not fully utilize my Cd drive or CPU
[07:58] <DaSkreech> ksaudiocd?
[07:58] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:Linux = dev/hda3/ext2
[07:58] <DaSkreech> londo4: have the forums given any hope yet?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: did you type the commands I gave?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> or copy and paste :)
[07:59] <londo4> no,
[07:59] <velle> DaSkreech: so there is 1) forums for questions, 2) mailing lists and irc for informal chat on background, future, ideas, problems, etc. and 3) launchpad for registering bugs, and tracing them
[07:59] <velle> DaSkreech: right?
[07:59] <DaSkreech> velle: good summary
[08:00] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: I don;t see it in the repositories..
[08:00] <DaSkreech> launchpad can be used for wishlists as well
[08:00] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: try kscd
[08:00] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: okay
[08:00] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: or kaudiocreator
[08:01] <Chris_Swift> !info
[08:01] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In component main, is standard. Version 4.8.dfsg.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 159 kB, installed size 328 kB
[08:01] <DaSkreech> velle: and finally google for frustration :)
[08:01] <Chris_Swift> !commands
[08:01] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:01] <Chris_Swift> !source
[08:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:01] <eilker> !bum > eilker
[08:02] <Chris_Swift> !OMG
[08:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OMG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <velle> DaSkreech: the thing is that I have some enhancement proposals and bugs, and I dont have the insight or knowledge to help solve them, but I still would like to know the status of my proposal,i.e. i would like to know if somebody actually reads it and acts upon it, so my input doesnt just gather dust
[08:02] <DaSkreech> velle: launchpad
[08:02] <Chris_Swift> Anyone got XUbuntu on Xbox?
[08:03] <Hawkwind> !botabuse | Chris_Swift
[08:03] <ubotu> Chris_Swift: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[08:03] <Hawkwind> Chris_Swift: Might join #Xubuntu for Xubuntu related stuff
[08:03] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: What kind of source are you looking for?
[08:03] <Chris_Swift> The base Ubuntu code for the OS
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/dapper/release.1/source/
[08:05] <Chris_Swift> When you think Edgy will be on the site?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Discussing now
[08:05] <Chris_Swift> lol "SOurce CD 1" It's over 2GB
[08:06] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: KAudioCreator has the neat and annoying feature of automagically choosing a place to save it, which is not conveinent when I want each one in a very different place
[08:06] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: brb
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Source is a good deal larger than compiled code
[08:06] <Chris_Swift> Good, a challenge
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Not sure how that is a challenge but go to it
[08:07] <DaSkreech> londo4: I'm still looking
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Blast!
[08:07] <Chris_Swift> lol i thought it said complicatated not compiled
[08:14] <Chris_Swift> Anyone here get problems installing SuSE 10.1 from a normal DVD or the Live DVD for I386?
[08:15] <[cf] nightrid3r> Chris_Swift: nope
[08:15] <Chris_Swift> ok, just my friend and I have the prob then
[08:16] <[cf] nightrid3r> Chris_Swift: beter ask un a suse chan they can help beter
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: They have daily source code as well
[08:18] <Chris_Swift> lol, are you on abput SuSE?
[08:22] <Chris_Swift> SuSE channel is as dead as the dodo
[08:22] <Chris_Swift> so's XUbuntu
[08:22] <DaSkreech> So is this
[08:23] <Chris_Swift> So what are you into then? As I am uterly bored (Spelt Wrong :P)
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Dink: Hmm never thought of that Seems redundant though
[08:24] <Chris_Swift> *Ywn*
[08:25] <Chris_Swift> *Yawn*
[08:25] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: Join #ubuntu :)
[08:25] <Chris_Swift> DaSkreech: I have
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Ok that's a non sleepy chan :)
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Katapult: Hi Love ya!
[08:26] <DaSkreech> no offence sonja-ny
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> Anyone know of any channels where you can passively observe and learn stuff (#debian used to be like that but more and more its full of people not reading the documentation)
[08:28] <Katapult> Im trying to start the game AmericasArmy, but i get this error -> bash: ./armyops: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied. Any one now how to fix this?
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: On edgy ?
[08:28] <Katapult> yes
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> Is it binary only ?
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> Anyone have any ideas bout Wine, opinions etc
[08:29] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: #ubuntu-classroom
[08:29] <crube> !wine
[08:29] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:29] <DaSkreech> !winbe
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winbe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <DaSkreech> !wine
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> !Winex
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Winex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Chris_Swift> !Cedega
[08:29] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Yes.
[08:29] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What interesting stuff has been tought there recently
[08:29] <crube> Chris_Swift: I've been pretty happy with it this fat.
[08:29] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Loads of stuff :)
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: strings ./armyops
[08:30] <DaSkreech> They have a schedule check the wiki
[08:30] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: isnt that stuff for beginner ?
[08:30] <crube> Chris_Swift: I just don't need it for anything. I have all the apps I need in Kubuntu.
[08:30] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: i have seen stuff like 'how to use irc' :)
[08:30] <DaSkreech> Not really. they have some higher classes
[08:30] <zorglu_> ok chechink the schedule
[08:31] <Katapult> h3sp4wm: Dident work.
[08:31] <Chris_Swift> DaSkreech: With a normal Laptop's warrenty does changing the OS Break it, somewhere like PC World Warrrent
[08:31] <zorglu_> i could use a course on how to package and setup a repository :)
[08:31] <Chris_Swift> y
[08:31] <zorglu_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[08:31] <Katapult> h3sp4wm: got this message -> echo "Couldn't run America's Army: Operations (armyops-bin). Is ARMYOPS_DATA_PATH set?"
[08:31] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: read your warranty :)
[08:32] <dimsuz> Hi! I installed nvidia-glx v.9629 from tseliot's repository and it works. Can I get nvidia-glx-dev of the same version somewhere? :) Or is it n/a?
[08:32] <Chris_Swift> zorglu: I wasnt asking "y" added it to then end of my message
[08:32] <Chris_Swift> Havent had it yet, just wondering if you know?
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: What do you mean didn't work there should be some output
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: cat ./armyops (basically is armyops a shell script or not)
[08:33] <Chris_Swift> bye all
[08:33] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Yee, alot of output.
[08:33] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: well the web page shows only very beginner stuff :)
[08:33] <Dink> DaSkreech, that would be the only DVR support I can see the PS3 having
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: But is it like garbled text ? or can it be read ?
[08:34] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: I can read it yes.
[08:34] <gemidjy> what software to use for conversion from MPEG to Avi ?
[08:34] <gemidjy> frontend, need for an enduser
[08:35] <devilredhat> i need someone's help
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: is the first line #!/bin/sh
[08:35] <zorglu_> gemidjy: if you find one, im interested too
[08:35] <devilredhat> why i cant *make* in my shell?
[08:35] <DaSkreech> Dink: Would kind of defeat the purpose of a cheap DVR
[08:35] <devilredhat> did i must setup something?
[08:35] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Yes.
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: change it to #!/bin/bash
[08:35] <DaSkreech> devilredhat: what?
[08:35] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: have you installed build-essential?
[08:35] <LeeJunFan> !build
[08:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:36] <devilredhat> LeeJunFan : not i'm not
[08:36] <devilredhat> how to install?
[08:36] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:36] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: that will install make and gcc compile components, etc..
[08:36] <B-Minus> hello
[08:36] <velle> DaSkreech: can you help me a sec, please?
[08:36] <sonic> Anyone know a chm viewer that will let me print chapters in Duplex?
[08:36] <devilredhat> ok..
[08:36] <devilredhat> let me try :)
[08:37] <B-Minus> does anyone know how to get my laptop smartcard reader to read/Write to a SD card ?
[08:37] <DaSkreech> velle: yes
[08:37] <sonic> ie, use both sides of the page
[08:37] <wow> can someone please look at this problem? it seems to be affecting ubuntu at a very weird filesystem level
[08:37] <wow> http://phpfi.com/177563
[08:37] <wow> if you use ssh, bash, and edgy, i'd look at http://phpfi.com/177563
[08:37] <velle> DaSkreech: i want to comment on a thread, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2006-November/010369.html, but the i've signed up for the mailing list after the last message, so how do I reply to it
[08:37] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: Use vi or kate or whatever - if you are using a gui app use kdesu kate ./armyops - otherwise sudo vim ./armyops
[08:37] <LeeJunFan> B-Minus: if your reader worked with linux it would probably pop up a requestor when you plug in a card. It's likely the built in one is not supported.
[08:37] <velle> DaSkreech: just give it title "Re: " concat "Thread name"
[08:37] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: And then run it yes?
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> B-Minus: mine works with SD cards, but not anything else. :(
[08:38] <devilredhat> LeeJunFan : i more..
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Katapult: Try it - It may have /bin/sh explicitly in other parts though
[08:38] <devilredhat> i've setup bnc in my shell's but i did'nt know my shell address
[08:38] <devilredhat> how to check it?
[08:38] <Katapult> h3sp4wn: Same problem.
[08:38] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: you mean your IP internet address?
[08:38] <devilredhat> nope
[08:38] <devilredhat> ip to ssh in my shell
[08:40] <zorglu_> wow: the tab completion fails but is the command itself working ? the scp i mean
[08:40] <h3sp4wn> zsh tab completion is alot better than bash's in my experience
[08:40] <LeeJunFan> devilredhat: sry, not sure I understand. If you are looking for you local IP address you can run ifconfig in a shell to get that address. The IP will be listed with the device.
[08:41] <devilredhat> oic..
[08:41] <devilredhat> ok i'll try..
[08:41] <DaSkreech> velle: I guess that could work. I'd ask someon who was already in the conversation to forward the mail to me but that might be too much trouble for al linvolved
[08:42] <h3sp4wn> devilredhat: ifconfig $1 | awk '/inet addr/ {printf "%s\n", substr($2,6)}' | grep -v ^127
[08:43] <devilredhat> thanks to all
[08:43] <velle> DaSkreech: thanks, ill just try now
[08:43] <wow> zorglu_: yes, exactly
[08:43] <zorglu_> wow: so the bug is only in the tab completion
[08:43] <wow> zorglu_: it only happens when i tab complete with scp
[08:44] <zorglu_> wow: nothing to do with ssh or the filesystem
[08:45] <ranametal> Helo! Who knows which packages are included in the kubuntu DVD?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> wow: You mean when you tab complete on a section like wow@azeroth.com:/var/accounts/Thrall/info ?
[08:45] <DaSkreech> ranametal: the developers :)
[08:45] <DaSkreech> Hi DjDarkman
[08:46] <DjDarkman> hi DaSkreech
[08:46] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: How goes?
[08:46] <h3sp4wn> ranametal: The whole of main (or it used to be)
[08:47] <LeeJunFan> And I think a good part of universe too.
[08:47] <DjDarkman> does someone know why my souncards numbers keep changing on every system start?
[08:47] <LeeJunFan> all together a mirror for the i386 version main,univ,multi is about 13G
[08:47] <ranametal> ok :)
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> wow: Seriously if you like tab completion zsh tab completes almost everything
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> Its more sensible (at least than bash by default anyway) for example cd <tab> it sensible enough to only tab complete directories
[08:51] <DjDarkman> sometimes my onboard soundcard is hw1.0 ,and sometimes it`s hw0,0 ,it`s changing every time and it`s very bad
[08:51] <overkill22> hi!
[08:51] <overkill22> someone can help me for the streaming viedo?
[08:51] <zorglu_> DjDarkman: leave it free
[08:51] <DjDarkman> zorglu_: don`t undersand what youre trying to say
[08:52] <ruedi> !KGet
[08:52] <zorglu_> DjDarkman: some lame joke, you can safely ignore it
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KGet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <DjDarkman> zorglu_: the problem is that I have problems with that ,because I have two soundcards
[08:52] <DaSkreech> velle: What is your comment btw>
[08:53] <zorglu_> DjDarkman: i dunno the solution sorry
[08:53] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:53] <velle> im writing it now :) ill get back to you, i have a bit of critique, but i want to make sure that no body feels offended :)
[08:53] <marie> has anyone installed kubuntu on a macbookpro?
[08:54] <DaSkreech> velle: Someone will don't worry about it :)
[08:54] <sonja-ny> marie...yes\
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: Maybe you could explicitly make a udev rule (I use this for my network card otherwise they all go wrong) SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", SYSFS{address}=="00:0f:b5:fa:ae:20", NAME="eth2"
[08:55] <marie> is there a guide some where for setting up a dual boot with osx?
[08:55] <marie> I've been trying to find one
[08:55] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: Have a look at the udev documentation its not that bad
[08:55] <DjDarkman> I`m not an expert at this ,no other easier way around?
[08:56] <BluesKaj> ok gents what do you make of theis message at bootup? . /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: Not that I know its the kernel setting it randomly
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> DjDarkman: So udev is the only way I know to fix it
[08:57] <DjDarkman> so it`s the kernel`s fault and not my systems?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Found /sbin/init ?
[08:58] <TheGateKeeper> marie: http://trainque.com/blog/2006/10/21/how-to-dual-boot-ubuntu-osx/
[08:58] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: I'm running in the Live CD right now
[08:59] <DaSkreech> I surmised
[08:59] <TheGateKeeper> marie: I just googled --> dual boot ubuntu osx
[08:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You couldn't find /sbin/init I guess you fixed that?
[08:59] <marie> I googled but all I could find was tribooting stuff
[08:59] <marie> thanks for the help!
[09:00] <BluesKaj> no i can't find anything
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> marie: well hope it helps :-)
[09:00] <TheGateKeeper> l8r folks
[09:00] <marie> well, I don't know if the powerbook is the same as my macbook
[09:01] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: hoe does one become 'root' in the live cd ?
[09:01] <campbch> i'm trying to get LMMS to work, and ive made sure that all of the required sound libraries are installed, but when i open the program the sound crackles constantly? it doesnt play any sounds while it's doing this, just the crackling
[09:01] <BluesKaj> how
[09:01] <campbch> imagine sticking a ruler into a low-speed fan
[09:01] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo su
[09:01] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: sudo does it there too
[09:02] <BluesKaj> ok what's next ..still don't have /sbin/init... DaSkreech
[09:03] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: /sbin/init doens't exist?
[09:03] <confusco> I installed and then uninstalled the official nvidia drivers, then installed nvidia-glx-legacy again, and "nvidia" in xorg.conf now seems to want to use the official nvidia drivers i've unintalled and gives a "file not found" error. how do I make it use the nvidia-glx-legacy, which also I think is supposed to use the word "nvidia"??
[09:03] <BluesKaj> nope
[09:03] <wow> h3sp4wn: uhm, since you're a zsh fanboy, let me start by saying that i think zsh is incredibly bloated. i also run many other distributions, and it seems that only [k] ubuntu has this tab completion problem in conjunction with its SSH client and its bash
[09:03] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What did you do?
[09:03] <wow> DaSkreech: did you look at the posted paste?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> wow: No
[09:04] <h3sp4wn> wow: In the speed tests I did it performed at least as fast as bash in everything I tested
[09:04] <wow> DaSkreech: http://phpfi.com/177563
[09:04] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Before the killing?
[09:04] <ypsila> good evening
[09:04] <ypsila> emonkey: I need your help
[09:04] <BluesKaj> was trying to solve a google earth GUI problem and i followed some instructions on a page i found
[09:04] <DaSkreech> wow: That's what scp tab gives you?
[09:05] <wow> DaSkreech: yes
[09:05] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Give us the page
[09:05] <BluesKaj> lemme look
[09:05] <DaSkreech> wow what is in the folder bug?
[09:05] <darren_> .msg NickServ IDENTIFY Thousand10
[09:05] <zorglu_> :)
[09:05] <wow> DaSkreech: ... please read the paste
[09:05] <wow> DaSkreech: i started with a new folder as you can tell then made three files with touch
[09:06] <zorglu_> darren_: time to change your password, btw konversation allows you to send it automatically which would avoid that to happen again
[09:06] <hyper_ch> !nVidia
[09:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:06] <DaSkreech> wow: Oh didnt see that part
[09:06] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: too late :)
[09:07] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthreaded.php/Cat/0/Number/674910/an/0/page/0
[09:07] <sonja-ny> nnnnnnn justt  /say  it
[09:07] <zorglu_> :)
[09:07] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: the part about installing the xorg driver
[09:08] <DaSkreech> wow: Well I'm on dapper and it's not doing that so yeah it's edgy's bash
[09:08] <cheesypieces> hello there
[09:08] <cheesypieces> anyone free to help?
[09:08] <zorglu_> !anyone
[09:08] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[09:08] <DaSkreech> Doh!
[09:08] <cheesypieces> lol
[09:08] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: too late :)
[09:09] <zorglu_> arf arf :)
[09:09] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: the edit xorg.conf part?
[09:09] <BluesKaj> yeah
[09:09] <zorglu_> nothing is worst that refactoring old code, you see how lame you are
[09:09] <cheesypieces> ok... I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?
[09:09] <wow> if anyone here is on bash with OpenSSH's client on Edgy, please follow the instructions here: http://phpfi.com/177563 and see if you can reproduce the error
[09:09] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Wouldnt happen to have thrid party repos would you?
[09:10] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[09:10] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:10] <cheesypieces> yeah i looked there
[09:10] <cheesypieces> nothing like my problem is listed
[09:10] <BluesKaj> I have some from twosouls
[09:10] <cheesypieces> or in any forums
[09:10] <BluesKaj> I have some from twosouls , DaSkreech
[09:11] <BluesKaj> he was helping me with this problem earlier but had to leave
[09:11] <cheesypieces> any ideas anyone?
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> has anyone in here gottan Swat to successfully work on kuubntu?
[09:12] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Before the rpoblem?
[09:12] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: yes
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: hwat did you have to do?
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: because it will not let me see it on localhost:901
[09:12] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:12] <wow> apt-get it...
[09:12] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: thats what i did but it doesn't work
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[09:13] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: did you try lsof to verify if the port really was open?
[09:13] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: try lsof -i 901
[09:13] <Dink> Seveas, please let me back in :)
[09:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Not accusing but that seems a lot more like someone hacked your system :(
[09:13] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: said connection refused on telnet
[09:13] <BluesKaj> we were trying tofix the google earth GUI with a different version but it didn'y fix the prob lem there , so went to the site i just posted and did some of the commands and tried to reboot
[09:14] <wow> T3hWiz0rd: did you try links or a GUI browser?
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> gui
[09:14] <wow> then what does telnet have to do with anything?
[09:14] <DaSkreech>  /sbin/init is not a likely candidate to get deleted
[09:14] <wow> either the port is open or it isn't
[09:14] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: checked if 901 was open
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: lsof: unknown protocol name (901) in: -i 901
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> lsof 4.77
[09:15] <wow> is samaba running?
[09:15] <wow> samba*
[09:15] <T3hWiz0rd> wow: i can see shares on the network so imagine so
[09:15] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: " sudo shutdown -r now" ? looks badddd to me
[09:16] <cheesypieces> ok... I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?
[09:17] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: do a man on shutdown
[09:17] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  "twosouls" is agood guy ...h'e helped me before ...don't think he's a malicious hacker
[09:17] <BluesKaj> how do I do that ?
[09:18] <DaSkreech> type man shutdown
[09:19] <icheyne> in a konsole window :)
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[09:19] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  what good will that do...I'm running on a different version of edgy than the one i want to fix
[09:20] <cheesypieces> how do i get to that?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Oh it will show you that shutdown -r now isn't a bad command
[09:20] <DaSkreech> I run it al lthe time
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Ok that's not true my system almost never goes down
[09:20] <DaSkreech>  but I've done it before
[09:20] <campbch> ok, one last time: I am trying to get LMMS working again. It was working previously, but now it only plays crackling sounds even when there is nothing supposed to be playing. I have reinstalled LMMS and made sure all of my sound packages are installed. I have tried changing the server to OSS, Jack as opposed to ALSA, and it gives static and nothing, respectively. Programs such as Hydrogen, Rosegarden, Kaffeine, Flash, everything else has perfect sound.
[09:21] <DaSkreech> wait. You have an edgy Cd?
[09:21] <campbch> what should i do?
[09:21] <aj_> anyone here ever connect a treo to linux?
[09:21] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[09:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:21] <BluesKaj> so what can we do about htis mess ?
[09:21] <campbch> i think that's everything, that would normally be wrong :(
[09:21] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You have an edgy Cd ?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> What do you mean a different edgy from the one you are fixing?
[09:21] <BluesKaj> yes, I'm on it right now , DaSkreech
[09:22] <ruedi> is there a text-based installer for kubuntu?
[09:22] <campbch> alt cd :o
[09:22] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What do you mean a different edgy from the one you are fixing?
[09:22] <campbch> i think...
[09:22] <DaSkreech> ruedi: the alternative CD is text based
[09:23] <ruedi> ah, ok
[09:23] <BluesKaj> I'm running the live cd ...I'm using it to talk with you , DaSkreech
[09:23] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: how is your edgy install different ?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> ubuntu:  hi
[09:23] <BluesKaj> I'm running the live cd ...I'm using it to talk with you , DaSkreech
[09:24] <cheesypieces> ok, I'll give it one more shot: I can't enable my wireless network, i press to enable it and it flicks back to disabled after about a second. any ideas?
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Forget the gui
[09:25] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  the other edgy is on my hard drive as hda3
[09:25] <cheesypieces> ok, how do i do it using the konsol?
[09:25] <cheesypieces> +e
[09:25] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What encryption are you using ?
[09:25] <cheesypieces> wep, although i've turned it off to get this working
[09:26] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: can You mount it?
[09:26] <DaSkreech> iwconfig I think cheesypieces
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What is the reason to use wep ? It can be cracked in 5 mins
[09:27] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: cause Ubuntu doesn't support wpa ?
[09:27] <cheesypieces> i live in the middle of nowhere, it doesn't really affect me too much
[09:27] <eitch0000> I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Of course it supports wpa
[09:27] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Perfectly integrated into /etc/network/interfaces
[09:27] <BluesKaj> haven't tried as root DaSkreech
[09:27] <icheyne> DaSkreech, I'm on wpa
[09:27] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: the init script shouldn't change so you should be able to copy the one from of the CD to the hard drive and *cross fingers* have it magically work
[09:28] <cheesypieces> anyway, how do i set this up wihtout the gui?
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Hmm set someone up on edgy yesterday and we had to drop from WPA2 to wep
[09:28] <T3hWiz0rd> swat won't work for me :-(
[09:28] <cheesypieces> not really used command lines too much before
[09:28] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech how do I do that
[09:28] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: from the konsole try this
[09:28] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[09:29] <DaSkreech> the tell me if ls drive/ gives you a listing of folders
[09:29] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, done
[09:29] <BluesKaj> now?
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Can your router support wpa ?
[09:30] <cheesypieces> yes it can
[09:30] <BluesKaj> nope
[09:30] <intelikey> why would "gnupg" depend on "libusb-0.1-4"   that makes no sense to me...  ?
[09:30] <cheesypieces> but i want to get the wireless working before i put any encryption on it
[09:30] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok does ls -l drive/sbin/init give you anything?
[09:30] <T3hWiz0rd> how do you restart inetd on kubuntu?
[09:30] <T3hWiz0rd> !samba
[09:30] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:31] <BluesKaj> no such drive or dir
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Its as easy to do it with wpa as anything else (you have to change the whole syntax)
[09:31] <BluesKaj> err file
[09:31] <kevin> hi all
[09:31] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What network card type do you use ?
[09:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok do ls -l /sbin/init
[09:31] <ruedi> how to flood a bot: #kubuntu-test-de
[09:31] <cheesypieces> ok, once i've got the thing to switch on without flicking back off, i'll encrypt it with wpa
[09:32] <DaSkreech> cheesypieces: What chipset is it?
[09:32] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd like any other linux  /etc/init.d/inetd restart   ?
[09:32] <BluesKaj> ls: drive/sbin/init: No such file or directory, DaSkreech
[09:32] <intelikey> T3hWiz0rd or networking  ?
[09:32] <scoates> hi again.
[09:32] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: No do /sbin/init this time
[09:33] <cheesypieces> i have a broadcom 4306 card btw
[09:33] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: sudo: /etc/init.d/inetd: command not found
[09:33] <scoates> Xorg just started eating my CPU again, like it does daily. Anyone have any clue how I can diagnose and/org fix this problem?
[09:33] <DaSkreech> T3hWiz0rd: try xinetd
[09:33] <BluesKaj> init: illegal runlevel: (null), DaSkreech
[09:33] <DaSkreech> ha ha
[09:33] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok try ls -l /sbin/init
[09:33] <kevin> anyone else has problem while kubuntu starts it says video mode not supported?
[09:34] <DaSkreech> scoates: I normally find it's some app cuasing problems look at the second most CPU intensive X app and try kill that
[09:34] <james> hello i am having trouble ejecting the cd can u help?
[09:34] <DaSkreech> james: try typing eject on the command line
[09:34] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 57696 2006-10-10 10:42 /sbin/init
[09:34] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok are you root?
[09:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:35] <scoates> DaSkreech: nothing else is using any more than 2% cpu at any given time, and it flops from konsole to konversation to amarok
[09:35] <scoates> I can't drag windows around, even
[09:35] <scoates> (well, visibly)
[09:35] <DaSkreech> ok then try cp /sbin/init ~/drive/sbin
[09:35] <james> it is accessing konqueror as a process says umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[09:35] <T3hWiz0rd> intelikey: swat will not work for me AT ALL
[09:35] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: tell me if it throws an error
[09:36] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: cp: cannot create regular file `/root/drive/sbin': No such file or directory
[09:36] <james> i have tried fuser -k does not work any other suggestions i can manually kill the process w/ kde system guard
[09:36] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj:  ok then try cp /sbin/init drive/sbin
[09:36] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: any ideas as yo why it would switch on then back off?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> scoates: How much memory is X using up?
[09:37] <scoates> ~350MB (35%)
[09:37] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: I can't help you without more information (and I know nothing of the gui tools)
[09:37] <intelikey> eeek i hate it when things wont die.     tty24 [root@~]  kill -9 759
[09:37] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: it just returns to root , no error message tho:)
[09:37] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  ps -A x | grep fuser
[09:37] <intelikey>   759 tty23    D+     0:00 fuser -k /dev/dsp
[09:37] <DaSkreech> cheesypieces: Have you looked in the forums?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Cross your fingers and reboot
[09:38] <cheesypieces> DaSkreech: yes I have, nothing on there though
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: What interface is it using (i.e ath0 / wlan0 / eth1 ?) what chipset
[09:38] <BluesKaj> how can i reboot with crossed fingers? :)
[09:38] <BluesKaj> ok , here goes DaSkreech
[09:38] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: the interface is eth1, and its a broadcom 4306 card
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: And you installed the firmware ?
[09:39] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: yes, and the driver is listed as being there
[09:39] <james> killall konqueror works is that the best way and why does it happen?
[09:39] <scoates> DaSkreech: hmm.. on a whim, I just killed kompmgr and sanity seems to have been restored
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: iwlist eth1 scan
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Does that show the network ?
[09:40] <DaSkreech> scoates: :-) reminds me of this gam_server that went krazy on Ubuntu
[09:40] <DaSkreech> No idea why
[09:40] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: No scan results
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: iwlist eth1 scan
[09:41] <scoates> DaSkreech: well, I can live with killing kompmgr every 12-24h
[09:41] <scoates> just hate killing Xorg
[09:41] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: unrecognised wireless command "up"
[09:42] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Have you explicitly installed the firmware ?
[09:42] <DaSkreech> scoates: I felt the same way about gam_server
[09:42] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: yes I have, and its showing as a network connection
[09:42] <DaSkreech> hi  tackat
[09:42] <scoates> cool; thanks (-:
[09:42] <cheesypieces> just won't let me enable it
[09:43] <DaSkreech> can the Kubuntu Live cd install into a LVM?
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: http://pastebin.ca/255297
[09:44] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Try that in /etc/network/interfaces and run ifup eth1
[09:44] <james> hello DaSkreech can you have quick look and tell me if this is the best solution?
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: But the fact its not appearing in the scan makes me think its not installed right
[09:45] <james> killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0
[09:45] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: do i just paste that into the konsole?
[09:45] <intelikey> well that was different.   kill -9 -1 was = to ye ole hard reset button on the front of the case.....    that's not supposed to happen...
[09:46] <james> or anyone for that matter
[09:46] <intelikey> james i missed the questin ?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> james: You can't eject the CD?
[09:47] <DaSkreech>  It's on teh desktop?
[09:47] <james> i have my system lock up when trying to eject the cd/dvd this is current solution "killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0"
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: edit /etc/network/interfaces (with any editor) if you need a graphical one run kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[09:47] <DaSkreech> What errors is the command eject giving you?
[09:47] <james> somehow konqueror is being used even though i can not see it
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> (easier if its on one line)
[09:48] <intelikey> james eject the device not the mountpoint.   yeah kioslaves
[09:48] <james> something like device is busy
[09:48] <DaSkreech> james: ah if that's so then killall konqueror would probably work
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> killall never seems to work right for me
[09:48] <DaSkreech> james: sure you don't have any konsole's open where you cded in to the CD?
[09:49] <DaSkreech> that's the most complex question I've asked all week
[09:49] <james> certain
[09:49] <eitch0000> I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[09:49] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: hmm those lines were already there
[09:49] <intelikey> well it's official now.  this kernel is not compatable with fuser   (not a *buntu kernel)
[09:49] <james> killall konqueror;eject /media/cdrom0                      works ok
[09:50] <james> but why does konqueror grab on in the first place
[09:50] <DaSkreech> james: cheers!
[09:50] <james> ???
[09:50] <confusco> Somebody help, I uninstalled an nvidia driver and then reinstalled nvidia-glx, and now it's giving me:           dlopen: libGLcore.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglx.so, (EE) Failed to load module "glx" (loader failed, 7), FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory, (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA ker
[09:50] <DaSkreech> it's not supposed to. This happens all the time?
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Implies the firmware might be not loaded right
[09:51] <cheesypieces> h3sp4wn: ok, I'll try it again
[09:51] <cheesypieces> thanks for your help
[09:51] <intelikey> james it's a failed linux attempt at acting like M$  so that if you insert a disk it runs things automatically.  i hate it.   never did like it in M$.  always disabled it there and sure don't want it here.
[09:52] <james> so what is best my solution or ...?
[09:52] <intelikey> but it's "just what everyone wants"
[09:52] <h3sp4wn> cheesypieces: Generally strange as it may sound ndiswrapper works better with broadcom cards than the native driver (which is reverse engineered)
[09:53] <intelikey> james i don't mess with kde enough to even guess what to do to just disable auto insert notifications  so i'll have to let someone else answer howto fix it.
[09:54] <james> auto insert notifations are already off i am pretty sure
[09:54] <intelikey> setting preferances to not display mounted disks on the desktop might work.
[09:54] <intelikey> idk
[09:55] <james> hmm
[09:58] <james> thanks
[09:58] <Amaranth> intelikey: You made ubotu cry. :(
[09:58] <intelikey> Amaranth well why is there no infonode on automounting ?
[09:59] <Amaranth> !mount
[09:59] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[09:59] <Amaranth> ack, that's old
[09:59] <Amaranth> there used to be
[09:59] <DaSkreech> !qtparted
[09:59] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[09:59] <intelikey> nothing to do with that tho
[10:00] <intelikey> not fstab  but the borked CD automounting process
[10:00] <intelikey> and howto turn it off ^
[10:00] <eitch0000> I've got a problem: I installed kpowersave, and didn't reboot, then started the app. CPU Scaling worked like a charm, now I rebooted and now cpu scaling isn't even in the menu anymore. Does it have anything to do with the fact, that installing kpowersave removed apmd and powernowd?
[10:01] <h3sp4wn> Almost as useless as the ipv6 factoid which tells you nothing of how to use it only how to disable it
[10:01] <intelikey> yeah and ?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> If anyone sees sabdfl can you just poke me I gotta question for him
[10:02] <intelikey> when the question is "how do you stop it from doing *" the factoid doesnt need to be about how to use.....
[10:03] <intelikey> DaSkreech /msg memoserv help
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> !ipv6
[10:03] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[10:03] <DaSkreech> Doh Memoserv
[10:03] <DaSkreech>  /msg memoserv help
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> Just how to disable it nothing about how to use it - If all people want to do is disable it why not disable it by default
[10:04] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah i agree with the "by default" idea.  but not everyone does.
[10:04] <intelikey> so why not a factoid for howto use and one for howto disable
[10:05] <intelikey> or both on one wiki page and a factoid that likes there
[10:05] <DaSkreech> tackat: how are you?
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> Definately
[10:05] <intelikey> "likes" hehhe what wasi thinking....
[10:06] <DaSkreech> intelikey: likes is aceptable :)
[10:06] <tackat> DaSkreech: fine
[10:06] <intelikey> links was intended tho
[10:06] <tackat> DaSkreech: currently trying to find out how to retrieve svg flags from Wikipedia best
[10:07] <intelikey> well fuser is hung again.   anyone got a clue what might have been missing im my kernel for fuser to always hang ?
[10:08] <intelikey> i mean it's locked up tight.   root kill -9 wont budge it.
[10:08] <intelikey> ^C  no affect.
[10:08] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: On dapper ?
[10:09] <intelikey> yep
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> so upstart cannot be blamed - hmmm
[10:09] <intelikey> home grown kernel.
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> what version ?
[10:10] <intelikey> 2.6.15*
[10:10] <DaSkreech> tackat: hacking at knowledge?
[10:10] <h3sp4wn> Can't think of how that could be broken
[10:10] <intelikey> Linux zeos486 2.6.15.464 #10 Fri Oct 27 06:57:44 CDT 2006 i586 GNU/Linux
[10:12] <Werzi2001> hi@ll
[10:12] <Werzi2001> i have a strange problem with amarok...
[10:12] <intelikey> well i can't umount /proc either    it seems that fuser is accessing something in /proc/*   what i do not know.
[10:13] <Werzi2001> i can just select folders in /home and /media for my collection :(
[10:13] <wilman> how can i get my macromedia sound to work?
[10:13] <wilman> it worked for one time but then i could not run music
[10:13] <intelikey> !hidden | Werzi2001
[10:13] <ubotu> Werzi2001: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[10:13] <DaSkreech> !hidden | Werzi2001
[10:13] <DaSkreech> Stop it! :( :-p
[10:13] <Werzi2001> ah ok :)
[10:13] <Werzi2001> thx a lot
[10:13] <Werzi2001> bye
[10:13] <intelikey> !flash9 | wilman
[10:13] <ubotu> wilman: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[10:16] <velle> is there a keyboard shortcut for opening the KDE menu?
[10:16] <DaSkreech> Alt=F1
[10:16] <DaSkreech> Alt+F1
[10:17] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Hey!
[10:20] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: ok the edgy partition is recognized , but : "unable to execute //sbin/logd, fr logd: no such file or directory"
[10:20] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: mount the drive and check if it's there
[10:23] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: I'm looking in Q-Parted and the drive is listed as : /dev/hda3 ext2
[10:24] <DaSkreech> Is it supposed to be ext2?
[10:25] <BluesKaj> well, windows is listed as ntfs above it
[10:25] <BluesKaj> should i try to mount it had3 in Q-Parted ?
[10:26] <BluesKaj> err hda
[10:29] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: "mount: can't find dev/hda3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[10:30] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: do the same thing you did before
[10:30] <DaSkreech>  mkdir drive && sudo mount /dev/hda3 drive
[10:31] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, done
[10:31] <intelikey> if drive exists that will fail   s/&&/;/
[10:31] <apallo> what is the wine command to make it fix the shortcuts?
[10:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ls -l drive/sbin/logd
[10:31] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Live CD
[10:31] <DaSkreech> strong likely hood it doesn't
[10:32] <janek> hi guys, pls help me install msttcorefonts, i have pure new edgy and im getting error from sourceforge :(
[10:32] <intelikey> DaSkreech "do the same thing you did before"    i don't know if that was preboot or not.
[10:32] <DaSkreech> intelikey: preboot he just logged in but good observation thanks ;)
[10:32] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  ls: drive/sbin/logd: No such file or directory
[10:33] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ls -l /sbin/logd
[10:33] <DaSkreech> intelikey: something deleted a bunch of executables from BluesKaj /sbin folder
[10:34] <intelikey> DaSkreech forced fsck ?   while mounted will do such things.     bad use of root mixed with file manager     typo with sudo..... ?
[10:35] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: " -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 26624 2006-10-10 10:42 /sbin/logd" ... the /sbin/logd is in green in the console
[10:35] <janek> had any1 problems with msttcorefonts ?
[10:35] <BluesKaj> whatever that means
[10:36] <janek> sourceforge timeout
[10:36] <intelikey> DaSkreech package manager go down with it.    check if the executables are missing or whole packages that contain them.    just some thoughts on the issue.   i'll go back to my kernel issue now.
[10:36] <tibone> hi
[10:37] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: can you tell me if ls drive/sbin/logd shows anything?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: ls: drive/sbin/logd: No such file or directory
[10:38] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: can you tell me if ls drive/sbin/ shows anything? Soryr about that
[10:38] <Bubba_Gump> who is deb?
[10:38] <BluesKaj> NP DaSkreech , i appreciate the help and efforts :)
[10:39] <DaSkreech> Yeah But I gotta be running soon so time is short :0
[10:39] <BluesKaj> yeah, looks like i'm gonna have to reinstall , DaSkreech
[10:39] <janek> big problem msttcorefonts package :)
[10:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: there is nothing in there>
[10:40] <DaSkreech> !fonts
[10:40] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[10:40] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[10:40] <DaSkreech> janek: ^^^
[10:40] <janek> thanks, but i specify my problem..
[10:41] <janek> i cant instal msttcorefonts package, because sourceforge times me out, in fact its only configuring package its already installed
[10:41] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: there is nothing in the folder?
[10:41] <BluesKaj> no
[10:41] <DaSkreech> janek: Why are you getting it from sourceforge?
[10:41] <velle> is there an anual Kubuntu conference or something?
[10:42] <janek> i'll PM u what i get, i dont want flood here
[10:42] <DaSkreech> janek: Gotta run. I'm sorry
[10:42] <DaSkreech> I'm late as it is
[10:42] <janek> DaSkreech: np bye
[10:42] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, thx
[10:43] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Is there anything in the folder?
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Oh you said no
[10:43] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech: no
[10:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[10:43] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ls drive/bin
[10:44] <Cosmonaut3030> Hello.
[10:44] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Anything in there?
[10:44] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech:  a whole list of stuff there
[10:44] <Cosmonaut3030> I am having trouble with dcop, I am SSHing into my Kubuntu box, and cannot access dcop. is this normal?
[10:45] <BluesKaj> a bunch of stuff in red, DaSkreech
[10:45] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo cp /sbin/* drive/sbin/
[10:45] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: sudo cp -R /sbin/* drive/sbin/
[10:45] <Cosmonaut3030> Is there anyone here who could help me?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[10:46] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:46] <DaSkreech> Oh wiat you did
[10:46] <Cosmonaut3030> Lol.
[10:46] <Cosmonaut3030> Don't worry about it.
[10:46] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: try that and then reboot
[10:46] <DaSkreech> I gotta g
[10:46] <Cosmonaut3030> I am having trouble with dcop, I am SSHing into my Kubuntu box, and cannot access dcop. is this normal?
[10:47] <aseigo> Cosmonaut3030: yes. it's to prevent hijacking of desktop sessions.
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> :(
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> Damn. What am I supposed to do?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech, will do , thx
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> Say @
[10:47] <Cosmonaut3030> Sorry.
[10:48] <DaSkreech> aseigo: Heya :)
[10:48] <aseigo> heya
[10:49] <Cosmonaut3030> Is there any way to set dcop to be usable through SSH?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> janek: you can apt-get install it you know that?
[10:50] <Jucato> aseigo: hi! you're in India right now?
[10:50] <flaccid> Cosmonaut3030: google gives results on it
[10:50] <aseigo> Jucato: as i type, yes =)
[10:50] <Cosmonaut3030> flaccid: Thanks.
[10:50] <Jucato> aseigo: oh nice :)
[10:50] <DaSkreech> janek: you have to install it from multiverse
[10:50] <flaccid> Cosmonaut3030: just set the DISPLAY variable before starting dcop: eg. ssh me@distant.compter.far "DISPLAY=:0 /usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop amarok ..."  <-- thats what it says
[10:50] <DaSkreech> !info msttcorefonts | janek
[10:51] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[10:51] <DaSkreech> !multiverse > janek
[10:52] <aseigo> Jucato: just got in a few hours ago
[10:52] <aseigo> well. 1.5 hours ago
[10:52] <warng> j
[10:52] <janek> DaSkreech: i know im installing via apt them..
[10:52] <Jucato> aseigo: oh. then it's probably just dawn around there right now? (the sun's just rising over here)
[10:53] <aseigo> Jucato: it's 3:30am.
[10:53] <Jucato> aseigo: oh ok. well, don't let me keep you from your shower and your much needed/deserved sleep :)
[10:54] <Jucato> good luck with foss.in :)
[10:54] <janek> DaSkreech: package is installed but then it connects to source forge for some .exe's
[10:54] <aseigo> thanks =)
[10:56] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, success!!!
[11:09] <ryanakca> I ran dpkg --get-selections... it created the file "dpkgselections"... what do I do now with the file?
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: What are you trying to do ?
[11:10] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: oh, about 2 months ago, when I completly whiped my system and reinstalled edgy, I created the file...
[11:10] <ryanakca> I forget what to do now to restore the packages...
[11:10] <Jucato> dpkg --set-selections
[11:11] <ryanakca> I kindof procrastinated?
[11:11] <ryanakca> Jucato: I don't think it's normal for it to run for about 30 minutes and counting?
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> aptitude install can be used with xargs from those lists
[11:11] <Jucato> hmm..
[11:11] <ryanakca> and how does it know what file? you can choose whatever name for the file...
[11:11] <Jucato> if the list was gotten from Dapper, it won't work on Edgy, afaik...
[11:12] <ryanakca> Jucato: no, not from dapper, edgy
[11:12] <Jucato> hm...
[11:12] <ryanakca> I dist-upgraded from dapper early august... aka, 3-4 months ago :)
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: cat dpkgselections | awk '{print $1}' | xargs aptitude install
[11:16] <ryanakca> kk
[11:16] <ryanakca> ty
[11:16] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech ! you There ?
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: wait... '{print $1}'... won't that just print the first collumn?
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: because some apps are to install and others remove...
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: I thought you wanted to put everything back from that file
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/dpkgselections
[11:17] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: precisely
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> access forbidden
[11:18] <ryanakca> refresh, sorry
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> still forbidden
[11:19] <ryanakca> odd, I 777'd it...
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> If its not the first column with the packagename use $2 or whatever
[11:19] <ryanakca> I can see it fine
[11:19] <ryanakca> no...
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> xargs passes it through to aptitude
[11:20] <ryanakca> hit ctrl-f5 or whatever it is to refresh the cache...
[11:20] <ryanakca> http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/~ryan/dpkgselection
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: ok
[11:20] <ryanakca> bbl, supper
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: cat dpkgselections | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v deinstall | xargs aptitude install
[11:21] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: any suggestions, /msg if you wish
[11:21] <icheyne> what's the best simple little mp3 player? I just want something to start quickly when I click on a file - not wait ages for amarok. Something like Foobar for Windows.
[11:22] <LjL> icheyne: what about xmms?
[11:22] <icheyne> I use Juk mostly, but something when I click on single mp3s would be good
[11:22] <icheyne> LjL, OK I'll give that a go. Isn't there one called beep? Isn't that better?
[11:22] <LjL> icheyne: beep media player - it uses the Gnome libraries i think. i was suggesting XMMS because i think it only uses GTK and nothing else, so should be relatively fast to start up
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> beep is unmaintained
[11:23] <icheyne> xmms it is
[11:23] <icheyne> thanks guys
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> use moc
[11:23] <icheyne> moc?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> executable mocp
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> !info moc
[11:23] <ubotu> moc: ncurses based console audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.0-2 (edgy), package size 175 kB, installed size 548 kB
[11:24] <icheyne> h3sp4wn, I've already got it
[11:24] <icheyne> thanks!
[11:37] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: Jucato: found something simpler: One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want. Run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade".
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> ryanakca: As usual dpkg knows all
[11:38] <ryanakca> h3sp4wn: yep...
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> That is the type of stuff it would be useful for ubotu to have
[11:39] <ryanakca> yeah
[11:40] <ryanakca> well, I can alwais submit it to him :)
[11:40] <ryanakca> to it*... doing that now :)
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> I suppose change debian to ubuntu - but then I suppose it constitutes direct plagurism
[11:41] <ryanakca> yeah...
[11:42] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> Its the knowledge though not the software (the software is blootbot)
[11:42] <ryanakca> yeah
[11:44] <rolando> hi
[11:44] <rolando> is there any tool to recover a file i just deleted?
[11:45] <Jucato> not if you deleted it using "rm" or if you emptied the trash can
[11:45] <LjL> !backup | ryanakca, h3sp4wn
[11:45] <ubotu> ryanakca, h3sp4wn: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[11:45] <LjL> !cloning
[11:45] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[11:46] <rolando> but Jucato in windows you can
[11:46] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[11:46] <Jucato> rolando: Linux doesn't use Windows filesystems, right?
[11:46] <teledyn> every time i put a CD/DVD in the drive it automounts it.  how do i prevent this?
[11:46] <ryanakca> LjL: ah, so we have a (almost direct) copy of dpkg's clone factoid
[11:46] <LjL> ryanakca: since 30 seconds, yes
[11:46] <bimberi> !-cloning
[11:46] <ubotu> cloning has no aliases - added by LjL on 2006-11-22 23:45:30
[11:46] <ryanakca> lol
[11:47] <bimberi> :)
[11:47] <Jucato> hm... never knew about the !-factoid command...
[11:47] <Jucato> !-uuid
[11:47] <ubotu> uuid has no aliases - added by Jucato on 2006-10-30 12:22:39
[11:47] <Jucato> yay :P
[11:47] <ryanakca> uuid... isn't that the newfangled thing for fstab because of some messed up motherboards?
[11:48] <Jucato> yeah
[11:48] <ryanakca> I remember it showing up in #kubuntu-devel a long time ago....
[11:48] <FFForever> how can i reenable the root login at the login screen?
[11:48] <LjL> FFForever: don't, it's extremely dangerous.
[11:48] <ryanakca> bbl
[11:48] <FFForever> i know
[11:48] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell FFForever about sudo | FFForever, you have a private message from Ubotu
[11:48] <FFForever> i know about sudo
[11:48] <Jucato> FFForever: read the page before you react
[11:49] <Jucato> it has instructions on what you want
[11:49] <FFForever> i know sudo...., but when i get the login screen i want to login as root
[11:50] <Jucato> FFForever: did you already read that page that was PM'd to you?
[11:50] <FFForever> yeah....
[11:50] <FFForever> i know about what to do and not do in root and how it can kill my system but there are times i just have to login as root to fix things
[11:50] <Jucato> then you should already know that there's a section in that page about Enabling graphical root login
[11:51] <LjL> FFForever, that page also explains what you asked for. read. it.
[11:51] <FFForever> opps i missed that part
[11:51] <FFForever> i kinda skimed it
[11:51] <bobbyd> ih
[11:51] <Jucato> didn't I tell you to read and that it has what you wanted?
[11:51] <bobbyd> what's the standard way to view free disk space in KDE?
[11:51] <FFForever> dose kubuntu come with gdm?
[11:51] <Jucato> FFForever: kdm
[11:51] <mf_debian> df -h
[11:52] <FFForever> errrrr, how can i have kubuntu with gdm?
[11:52] <Jucato> bobbyd: if you want a GUI for it, install filelight
[11:52] <Jucato> FFForever: do you really read?
[11:52] <FFForever> yeah i see where it says to reenable the root login....
[11:52] <mf_debian> Jucato - filelight is really useful, i love that app
[11:52] <Jucato> FFForever: there are instructions for KDE
[11:53] <Jucato> mf_debian: same here. it's just annoying that it crashes on exit. harmless but annoying
[11:53] <FFForever> ok :D, one last question, i was on gentoo :D but now im on a laptop and a source distro is not to nice on a laptop :(, how hard will it be to get wmv's and mp3's to play in firefox/amarok
[11:54] <Xal2> not hard at all
[11:54] <arrautza> hi
[11:54] <Xal2> Well, I use Kaffeine for video.
[11:54] <FFForever> brb :)
[11:54] <d03boy> i just installed dapper on my laptop. I need to get wireless working. where do I start
[11:54] <arrautza> what is canonical suport??
[11:54] <Xal2> libxine-extracodecs is the package you'll need for windows codecs.
[11:54] <bobbyd> mf_debian: there's no GUI tool for viewing free disk space? (filelight is something different, I just wasnt a single figure for each mount)
[11:55] <bobbyd> d03boy: do lspci and see what the hardware is
[11:55] <Xal2> d03boy: if you use WPA, you should use ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant. I didn't have much success with Kubuntu's built in driver.
[11:55] <Jucato> bobbyd: right-click on an empty space, select Properties, and look near the bottom of the dialog box
[11:56] <Jucato> bobbyd: shows where it's mounted, and how much free space is available
[11:56] <bobbyd> Jucato: cool :)
[11:56] <d03boy> i use wep
[11:56] <d03boy> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)
[11:56] <Xal2> Did Kubuntu detect your wireless card?
[11:57] <d03boy> i dont know
[11:57] <FFForever> bk
[11:57] <FFForever> i like totem player
[11:57] <d03boy> totem sucks
[11:57] <FFForever> no
[11:57] <bobbyd> d03boy: look under k->internet->wireless lan assistant
[11:57] <kristyon> anyone using a serial mouse here???
[11:57] <FFForever> is there linva for ubuntu?
[11:58] <nuku> bobbyd: you could also try kdf as some simple kde df replacement
[11:58] <kristyon> what linva?
[11:58] <Xal2> Oh come on, they're just media players.
[11:58] <d03boy> My card does not seem to be detected....
[11:58] <FFForever> linva is a package respority
[11:58] <d03boy> or else its just not working
[11:58] <FFForever> can apt-get install vlc player?
[11:58] <mf_debian> bobbyd - yeah , getting carried away there, nothing that shows the equivalent of a df -h
[11:59] <kristyon> anyone using serial mouse or serial device using m$ protocol??
[11:59] <Jucato> !vlc | FFForever
[11:59] <ubotu> FFForever: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:59] <FFForever> i use a usb wireless mouse
[11:59] <Jucato> ouch wrong one
[11:59] <Xal2> That's what I use, VLC
[11:59] <LjL> !info vlc
[11:59] <Jucato> !info vlc | FFForever
[11:59] <kristyon> ubuntu has bug with mice but cant fix it
[11:59] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:59] <Jucato> hehe LjL beat me to it :)
[11:59] <FFForever> can vlc play inside firefox?, lol
[12:00] <LjL> FFForever: think there is a plugin
[12:00] <d03boy> i think so
[12:00] <kristyon> oh dear
[12:00] <FFForever> no?
[12:00] <Xal2> I think it can.
[12:00] <LjL> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc
[12:00] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB
[12:00] <d03boy> how do I get this wireless hardware to wrok
[12:00] <d03boy> wrok
[12:00] <d03boy> wrk
[12:00] <d03boy> afjafkljasfkljkljkl WORK
[12:00] <FFForever> damn ubuntu kicks ass over fedora
[12:00] <FFForever> lol
[12:00] <FFForever> i still like gentoo thoe :D
[12:00] <FFForever> what version of firefox dose kubuntu come with 1.5?
[12:00] <kristyon> serial mouse fix anyone?
[12:01] <nathan> is there an automatix for kubuntu 6.10?
[12:01] <d03boy> i just tried gentoo and whenever I rebooted it would destroy journallying
[12:01] <LjL> FFForever: Dapper comes with 1.5, Edgy with 2.0
[12:01] <kristyon> nathan, yes
[12:01] <LjL> !automatix | nathan
[12:01] <ubotu> nathan: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[12:01] <kristyon> works great here, and on another 3 systems i know of
[12:01] <d03boy> installing BCM4309 wireless card. how?
[12:02] <FFForever> bcm43xx is EASY with the .18 kernel
[12:02] <FFForever> :D
[12:02] <nathan> what I am after is some of the stuff that it provides... Is there an alternative other than manual install
[12:02] <LjL> !easyubuntu | perhaps
[12:02] <ubotu> perhaps: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[12:02] <kristyon> easyubuntu
[12:02] <d03boy> well I only have .15
[12:02] <LjL> but manual install isn't that hard
[12:02] <d03boy> because thats what dapper comes with
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: The softmac version of bcm43xx will always suck
[12:02] <confusco> anybody have an idea why my game is slow? I've installed the drivers correctly, and have direct rendering, but it's a lot slower than in Windows
[12:03] <FFForever> what kernel dose the new kubuntu come with
[12:03] <FFForever> i have 2hours left on my dl
[12:03] <LjL> FFForever: 2.6.17
[12:03] <Jucato> on Edgy
[12:03] <LjL> he said the *new* kubuntu :)
[12:03] <d03boy> so how do I get teh bcm43xx shit to work on dapper
[12:03] <Xal2> I use ndiswrapper.
[12:03] <FFForever> the newest kernel (or was a few weeks ago) was .18rc5
[12:03] <h3sp4wn> d03boy: best version is the devicescape version in the wireless-dev git repository
[12:04] <d03boy> well that seems too complicated
[12:04] <confusco> d03boy, what have you tried?
[12:04] <LjL> FFForever: you'll never get that in Ubuntu i think. Edgy ships with 2.6.17, and i guess Feisty will ship with 2.6.19
[12:04] <d03boy> i have tried asking about it here
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: 2.6.19-rc6 I think is the newest
[12:04] <Xal2> linux requires some research.
[12:04] <d03boy> ive tried stuff on other distros
[12:04] <FFForever> the .18 kernel makes it really easy :)
[12:04] <d03boy> ndiswrapper has worked for me in the past but I'd like premiscuious mode or whatever
[12:04] <FFForever> just cut the firmware and yeah :)
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> I think its the same on 2.6.17
[12:05] <FFForever> 17 gave me probs
[12:05] <Xal2> uh, premiscuous? lol
[12:05] <h3sp4wn> And there is still the fact that broadcom radio's suck
[12:06] <FFForever> no the raido isnt that bad acctualy
[12:06] <FFForever> i pick up things my M$ cant
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: Compare it to a decent atheros
[12:06] <Xal2> Lol
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: They bleed too much into other channels
[12:06] <confusco> http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw/bcm43xx-firmware/bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb try this
[12:06] <Xal2> Microsoft makes wireless networking devices?
[12:06] <FFForever> they did
[12:06] <FFForever> my router is made my M$
[12:07] <FFForever> they stoped thoe lol
[12:07] <Xal2> Ah right
[12:07] <Xal2> I have a broadcom in my laptop. The range isn't great.
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> FFForever: if its an MN-700 you can j-tag it and install openwrt
[12:07] <FFForever> what laptop do u got?
[12:07] <Xal2> Compaq Presario R4000
[12:07] <FFForever> i got a v2000
[12:07] <FFForever> it sucks lol damn amd
[12:08] <Xal2> I've had mine for a year. I'm happy with it. It's just a bit heavy for a laptop.
[12:08] <intelikey> is  linux-image-2.6.15-27-386 buggy ?
[12:08] <FFForever> hey is it me or is it the damn presarios after a year the batery life cut in half
[12:09] <Xal2> Not sure
[12:09] <confusco> do you keep it charged all the time?
[12:09] <UnDeR|CoVeR> hi guys! i got a prob.... i used this read me --> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL <---- and now i have some probs
[12:09] <FFForever> i use to have a 2h life
[12:09] <Xal2> That's what I get out of it.
[12:09] <FFForever> now evertyhing starts going ur almost out of power at 45mins
[12:09] <UnDeR|CoVeR> i did everything that it asked for even the last script for gnomw
[12:09] <confusco> if you have it plugged in and charged at 100% all the time, that kills li-ion
[12:09] <UnDeR|CoVeR> gnome
[12:09] <UnDeR|CoVeR> and when i try to log in with an xgl session it jams
[12:10] <Xal2> confusco shit, lol
[12:10] <confusco> :)
[12:10] <confusco> it's true
[12:10] <confusco> best % of charge to keep li-ion is at 40%
[12:10] <Xal2> If the battery is full, why doesn't power go "around" the battery?
[12:10] <confusco> it does, basically..
[12:10] <confusco> just li-ion doesn't like to be stored at 100%
[12:10] <Xal2> Oh, it just doesn't like the 100%
[12:11] <Xal2> :(
[12:11] <FFForever> i only got 3batteys :)
[12:11] <d03boy> they should just give you 140% battery life then
[12:11] <confusco> a heads up for you. if you want long life, store at 40% and only at 100% when you actually want to use it
[12:11] <Xal2> yeah ,lol
[12:11] <Xal2> I use it all the time.
[12:11] <FFForever> now they tell me...
[12:11] <UnDeR|CoVeR> anyone?
[12:11] <FFForever> im on my laptop 24/7
[12:11] <confusco> d03boy.
[12:11] <FFForever> except when its fucked up like it is now
[12:12] <UnDeR|CoVeR> how do i at least install nvidia card drivers?
[12:12] <FFForever> some dumbass kicked it...
[12:12] <confusco> did you get my message
[12:12] <d03boy> the .deb file?