[09:33] <mdke_> morning
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> mdke_: You know, don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes I hate you.
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> Every day you come in here and say that, and remind me how late it's gotten and that I really should be in bed, but aren't.
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> ;)
[09:34] <mdke_> :)
[09:34] <nixternal> ditto! ;)
[09:34] <Burgundavia> indeed
[09:35] <mdke_> I overslept too
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> Man...
[09:36] <tonyyarusso> I haven't gotten anywhere on this assignment yet
[09:40] <mdke_> Burgundavia: minions eh, nice
[09:43] <Burgundavia> mdke_: I try
[09:48] <Burgundavia> the UWN?
[09:48] <mdke_> yeah
[09:49] <Burgundavia> hmm
[10:14] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, slipping ads fro Cia1is into the UWN now? ;)
[05:12] <Mithrandir> mdke_: regarding your "Documentation String Freeze Exception Procedure"; those strings are all updated in stable release updates, right?
[06:25] <nixternal> mdke_: i made a change to that fridge article -- s/Ubuntu/Linux - thanks for the hacking on it
[07:19] <Burgwork> mdke_: http://bundlebuggy.aaronbentley.com/
[08:06] <mdke_> nixternal: s/Ubuntu/Linux?
[08:06] <mdke_> Mithrandir: I'll send you a full explanation by email of the problem
[08:07] <jjesse> hello mdke_
[08:07] <mdke_> hiya jjesse 
[08:07] <mdke_> Burgwork: ?
[08:07] <Burgwork> mdke_: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrRequestPatchWebQueue
[08:08] <mdke_> Burgwork: i haven't seen this before
[08:08] <nixternal> mdke_: it had that free geek installs ubuntu on all of their machines...they install linux on all of them, but not just ubuntu
[08:09] <nixternal> thats what i meant by that
[08:09] <mdke_> nixternal: Jane's email said Ubuntu on all of them
[08:09] <Burgwork> mdke_: it was something I cooked up last year
[08:09] <Mithrandir> mdke_: I got your email which was Cc-ed to mdz; more explanation would be appreciated.
[08:09] <mdke_> nixternal: that's where I got it from
[08:09] <nixternal> well, she isn't correct there...i know for a fact since i volunteer my sundays to free geek
[08:09] <mdke_> Mithrandir: yes, I realised that it isn't very full, i'll send a better one
[08:09] <nixternal> most of the time it is SuSE linux, and the older ones will get Xubuntu or Slax
[08:10] <mdke_> ah, fine.
[08:10] <mdke_> she must have been mistaken
[08:10] <Burgwork> nixternal: different free geeks do different things
[08:10] <nixternal> they are using more and more of ubuntu though...mainly xubuntu...but not 100% in our grasp yet ;)
[08:10] <nixternal> that is part of my world dominination
[08:10] <Burgwork> portland used to do their own freekbox distro
[08:10] <nixternal> and they still do
[08:10] <mdke_> maybe the oregon one uses Ubuntu?
[08:11] <Mithrandir> mdke_: cheers.
[08:11] <nixternal> well we get the SuSE packages in chicgao from the oregon office
[08:11] <Burgwork> possible
[08:12] <Burgwork> they explicitly say the laptops have ubuntu on them
[08:12] <nixternal> yup
[08:12] <nixternal> so we can change it to go that route maybe
[08:13] <Burgwork> mdke_: anyway, the bzr people now have a web queue for approving patches to bzr
[08:14] <mdke_> so you can approve the patch online and it gets automatically applied?
[08:19] <mdke_> Burgwork
[08:20] <mdke_> nixternal: do you want to go ahead and approve the story?
[08:31] <mdke_> Mithrandir: ok mailed.
[08:37] <Burgwork> mdke_: I believe so
[08:38] <mdke_> Burgwork: sounds cool. How do you submit patches?
[08:38] <Burgwork> via the usual method of bzr push
[08:39] <mdke_> sounds interesting. How can we try it out?
[08:39] <Mithrandir> mdke_: thanks, explains it well, yes.
[08:40] <mdke_> great
[08:40] <Mithrandir> mdke_: I need to look it tomorrow, but I think I have an idea.  I'll follow up on your mail to -doc and we'll flesh something out.
[08:41] <Burgwork> mdke_: need a bzr repo and probably need to set that up
[08:41] <mdke_> Burgwork: LP imports our svn repo. Is something needed to set up the web interface?
[08:41] <mdke_> Mithrandir: ok, thanks
[08:42] <Burgwork> mdke_: need a turbogears setup, but that is now packaged for feisty
[08:43] <mdke_> hmm. We should check it out, sounds cool
[08:43] <mdke_> does bzr do centralised version control nowadays?
[08:44] <pygi> mdke_: bzr is by definition distributed? :)
[08:45] <mdke_> pygi: I believe that's the default function yeah. But I also believe there is a feature which provides some kind of centralisation
[08:45] <Mithrandir> pygi: no, it's not.  You can use checkouts.
[08:46] <Mithrandir> (those still allow local commits etc, but in that case they need to be merged back again before being treated as a checkout/bound branch)
[08:46] <pygi> Mithrandir: understood, but I believe it's mostly used distributed or something. Anyway, ignore e.
[08:46] <mdke_> it was called "bound branches" or something
[10:30] <tormod> the hoary pages now being removed from h.u.c, are they archived somewhere?
[10:37] <Burgwork> currently no
[10:44] <Burgwork> tormod: ^
[10:45] <tormod> it's a pity if they totally disappear, isn't it?
[10:50] <Burgwork> not really, given most of the docs were of questionable quality
[10:56] <tormod> that might be true ;) But people wrote it, and some of it might have some information that could be used in another context. But I haven't looked at it. Great to have it cleansed out from the "visible" wiki anyway.
[11:15] <mdke_> Burgwork: are you deleting stuff that could be upgraded?
[11:16] <mdke_> presumably not, right?
[11:16] <Burgwork> mdke_: no, just stuff that is hoary only
[11:16] <mdke_> fair enough. Like stuff that can't apply to later versions?
[11:17] <Burgwork> yes, like "fixing X hardware in Hoary"
[11:17] <mdke_> fine, sounds good