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| lfittl | BenC: is it intentional that /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.19-*/include/linux/config.h does not exist anymore? | 01:49 |
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| zul | yep | 01:50 |
| lfittl | k, so if I package a kernel module I should replace it with linux/autoconf.h, right? | 01:51 |
| zul | i think you remove it totally | 01:52 |
| lfittl | wouldn't that cause problems if there are #ifdefs that require the config #defines? | 01:52 |
| zul | i think it was an empty file in 2.6.15 but i would have to look at the code | 01:53 |
| lfittl | for 2.6.17 it was: #include <linux/autoconf.h> | 01:54 |
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| BenC | lfittl: Remove it completey | 02:03 |
| BenC | lfittl: The module build system adds "-include .../autoconf.h" now | 02:04 |
| BenC | so it's explicitly always there | 02:04 |
| lfittl | BenC: k, thanks | 02:09 |
| zul | BenC: ping | 02:40 |
| BenC | zul: pong | 02:41 |
| zul | should the patch for #6244 go in edgy or bump it to fiesty | 02:41 |
| zul | it looks trivial enough for edgy | 02:41 |
| zul | er...62444 | 02:42 |
| BenC | zul: let me check | 02:56 |
| BenC | zul: Looks suitable for edgy-updates | 02:57 |
| zul | cool | 02:59 |
| zul | funny that patch is crack | 03:02 |
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| KnowledgEngi | hello | 04:02 |
| KnowledgEngi | i have a big problem with the kernel | 04:04 |
| KnowledgEngi | the problem is that i need to use a software named rosegarden | 04:04 |
| KnowledgEngi | this software need a particular kernel | 04:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | a low-latency kernel | 04:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | this is a software for musician | 04:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | and work realtime | 04:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | and without a low-latency kernel there is problem with system timer | 04:06 |
| KnowledgEngi | System timer resolution is too low | 04:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | Rosegarden was unable to find a high-resolution timing source for MIDI | 04:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | performance. | 04:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | This may mean you are using a Linux system with the kernel timer | 04:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | resolution set too low. Please contact your Linux distributor for more | 04:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | information. | 04:08 |
| BenC | KnowledgEngi: Probably is two fold | 04:17 |
| BenC | KnowledgEngi: We can provide a kernel with a proper timer, however that kernel would not be suitable for all people, especially those not needing high resolution timers | 04:17 |
| BenC | KnowledgEngi: Second problem is that we always get folks wanting this feature, but no one puts in the time to implement or test it | 04:18 |
| BenC | usually we end up hearing about it after release | 04:18 |
| KnowledgEngi | you work in the ubuntu comunity ? | 04:18 |
| KnowledgEngi | we are ubuntu developers? | 04:18 |
| KnowledgEngi | you | 04:18 |
| BenC | yes, we == kernel developers == mainly me | 04:18 |
| BenC | newly kylem, but for references to the past me :) | 04:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | wow | 04:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | :) | 04:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | is very important for me becouse i work with music | 04:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | and i studi music composition in a music school | 04:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | studY | 04:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | and under ubuntu i has much problem with midi software and notation software | 04:20 |
| BenC | right, I understand the issue | 04:20 |
| KnowledgEngi | i do not use other tutorial about kernel building | 04:21 |
| KnowledgEngi | becouse i think that is possible that after i can have other problems | 04:21 |
| BenC | there is an ubuntu specific tutorial at the URL in the topic | 04:21 |
| KnowledgEngi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryKernel | 04:23 |
| KnowledgEngi | this page? | 04:23 |
| BenC | yes, look for Build link | 04:23 |
| KnowledgEngi | my english is terrible, i'm italian. Can you tall me the specific link good for my problem? | 04:24 |
| BenC | I do know that dapper has the proper frequency | 04:24 |
| BenC | so if you are using edgy, maybe switch to dapper | 04:24 |
| KnowledgEngi | i'm use edgy | 04:24 |
| BenC | oh wait, no I switched it back in dapper | 04:25 |
| BenC | because of the problems it was causing for laptop users (low battery life) | 04:25 |
| KnowledgEngi | i have a pc with case | 04:25 |
| KnowledgEngi | i have not a laptop | 04:25 |
| KnowledgEngi | :) | 04:25 |
| BenC | I know, but the kernel is the same either way...and we can't help the 0.1% of users trying to do music just to make 5% of users reduce battery life | 04:26 |
| KnowledgEngi | i hope that in the next ubuntu release there is a possibility to install a prebuild low-latency kernel | 04:27 |
| KnowledgEngi | using synaptic | 04:27 |
| KnowledgEngi | :) | 04:27 |
| BenC | probably is, no one is asking for it much | 04:27 |
| BenC | I hear about it once every 2 to 4 months from one person | 04:27 |
| KnowledgEngi | much people in channel relater with linux audio speack about this problem with rosegarden and kernel | 04:28 |
| BenC | hard to justify the extra build and space on mirrors for a handful of people | 04:28 |
| KnowledgEngi | in this age much people work with music | 04:30 |
| KnowledgEngi | Dj too | 04:30 |
| KnowledgEngi | is not a rarely problem :) | 04:30 |
| KnowledgEngi | i know much people that do not use linux becouse have problem with audio | 04:31 |
| KnowledgEngi | and midi | 04:31 |
| KnowledgEngi | for me now is sufficent just a document that show me the procedure that i need for solve this problem | 04:33 |
| KnowledgEngi | the firsth step that i need is this?: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28CategoryKernel%29 | 04:38 |
| BenC | that's the only document you need | 04:39 |
| KnowledgEngi | i need upgrade to ubuntu dapper ? | 04:40 |
| KnowledgEngi | or ubuntu edgy is ok | 04:40 |
| KnowledgEngi | ? | 04:40 |
| BenC | edgy is newer than dapper | 04:41 |
| BenC | stick with edgy | 04:41 |
| KnowledgEngi | my english is terrible | 04:42 |
| KnowledgEngi | i know that edgy is the new release | 04:42 |
| KnowledgEngi | but i do not know if is compatible with this how-to | 04:42 |
| KnowledgEngi | becouse 10 minuts ag you tall me something about dapper | 04:43 |
| BenC | the howto clearly says it is for edgy | 04:44 |
| KnowledgEngi | . /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic | 05:04 |
| KnowledgEngi | where i must to copy it before build the kernel ??? | 05:04 |
| KnowledgEngi | is possilbe that there is an error in the how-to | 05:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | user@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17$ ls -l debian/config/i386/ | 05:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | ls: debian/config/i386/: Not a directory | 05:05 |
| KnowledgEngi | cp /boot/config-2.6.17-10-generic debian/Config/config | 05:07 |
| KnowledgEngi | is correct ? | 05:07 |
| KnowledgEngi | cd debian/Config && make menuconfig | 05:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | debian/rules updateconfigs | 05:08 |
| KnowledgEngi | i do not know if is correct | 05:08 |
| crimsun | KnowledgEngi: I'll assist you in #ubuntustudio. Please don't ask here, because it's not pertinent to Ubuntu development. | 05:18 |
| KnowledgEngi | in ubuntustudio the people tall the same thinh | 05:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | thing | 05:19 |
| crimsun | KnowledgEngi: I'll assist you in #ubuntustudio. Please don't ask here, because it's not pertinent to Ubuntu development. | 05:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | they not give support | 05:19 |
| KnowledgEngi | but is related to ubuntu kernel | 05:20 |
| KnowledgEngi | becouse i neet to rebuild it | 05:20 |
| KnowledgEngi | modifing the config | 05:20 |
| crimsun | ok, I don't know if you're just blatantly ignoring what I've repeated, or if you truly can't understand what I'm saying. | 05:20 |
| crimsun | I'm in that irc channel _right now_, so please, let's migrate this support issue away from a development channel, ok? | 05:21 |
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| fabbione | BenC: still around? | 07:11 |
| BenC | yeah | 07:11 |
| fabbione | i added the pata_via but it seems VERY buggy | 07:11 |
| fabbione | if i boot with quiet/splash i get a combinations of segfaults (init) and OOPS | 07:11 |
| BenC | weird, others reported it worked very well | 07:11 |
| fabbione | oh yeah.. if i remove quiet/splash it boots | 07:12 |
| BenC | and this didn't happen before pata_via? | 07:12 |
| fabbione | nope | 07:12 |
| BenC | very very odd | 07:12 |
| fabbione | i will need to grab pics of the OOPS | 07:12 |
| BenC | that's worth another bug report | 07:12 |
| fabbione | there is nothing i can do at that point | 07:12 |
| BenC | oh wait, I bet I might know | 07:13 |
| BenC | blacklist amd76x_edac | 07:13 |
| BenC | is this an amd64 box? | 07:13 |
| fabbione | it's not loaded | 07:13 |
| BenC | ok, nm then | 07:13 |
| fabbione | yes, but it's running i386 stuff | 07:13 |
| BenC | ok, I'm headed to bed, but I can check on it in the morning | 07:14 |
| fabbione | ok thanks dude | 07:14 |
| fabbione | good night | 07:14 |
| BenC | later | 07:14 |
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| TheMuso | c | 07:38 |
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| cypher1 | does there are still code being added to init/main.c or is it now very stabilized ? | 10:56 |
| cypher1 | sorry i meant init/main.c in kernel code | 10:57 |
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| gnomefreak | are the nvidia modules ok or is that one of the missing modules | 12:52 |
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| gnomefreak | it works | 12:56 |
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| frenkel | does anybody here know why after installing xen, there is no /lib/modules/2.6.xx-xen0/build directory? | 04:43 |
| zul | did you install the headers? | 04:47 |
| frenkel | yes | 04:47 |
| zul | try opening a bug in launchpad an ill look at it when i can | 04:47 |
| frenkel | ok, thanks | 04:47 |
| frenkel | should i use xen-headers package? | 04:48 |
| zul | yes | 04:48 |
| frenkel | (for the bug) | 04:48 |
| frenkel | ok | 04:48 |
| zul | or xen-source-2.6.whatever | 04:49 |
| frenkel | submitted: https://bugz.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xen-source-2.6.17/+bug/72870 | 04:51 |
| zul | thanks | 04:51 |
| frenkel | yw | 04:51 |
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| dade` | someone knows if the function to disable console suspend on suspend to ram can be enabled in ubuntu 2.6.19-6 kernel without recompiling ? | 07:44 |
| mjg59 | Depends what you mean by console suspend | 07:50 |
| dade` | it's an option in power management section of kernel config | 07:51 |
| mjg59 | Oh. In that case, no. | 07:52 |
| mjg59 | You want netconsole to work? | 07:52 |
| dade` | CONFIG_DISABLE_CONSOLE_SUSPEND=y | 07:52 |
| dade` | ok | 07:52 |
| dade` | I'm not really skilled, never used netconsole | 07:53 |
| mjg59 | Why are you worried about the console_suspend option? | 07:55 |
| dade` | I want to see why kernel 2.6.19 freezes during suspend to ram, even without piix support | 07:56 |
| kylem | BenC, ok, merged and compiled ok for edgy. | 07:56 |
| fabbione | kylem: do you feel lucky? | 08:04 |
| kylem | hmm? | 08:04 |
| fabbione | *grins* | 08:04 |
| fabbione | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.19/+bug/72824 | 08:04 |
| fabbione | and i would like to handover to either you or Ben the gfs merge from redhat | 08:05 |
| kylem | i saw something about pata_via today. hold. | 08:05 |
| kylem | or not, nm. :/ | 08:06 |
| fabbione | kylem: http://sources.redhat.com/cluster/ <- in .19 we are tracking CVS HEAD | 08:06 |
| fabbione | kylem: would you like to be in charge of keeping it up to date in .19? | 08:06 |
| fabbione | also.. Ben did some patching to make it build in .19 | 08:06 |
| fabbione | but it's all in one git commit | 08:06 |
| fabbione | i would like to have the .17 -> .19 patch separated so i can submit it upstream | 08:07 |
| mjg59 | Are we doing the ->libata transition? | 08:07 |
| mjg59 | If so, someone really needs to pull all the code from -mm | 08:07 |
| mjg59 | Plus all the patches that Alan just through at lkml | 08:07 |
| fabbione | note that i am not asking you to take over GFS testing.. just merging upstream bits into our tree. | 08:07 |
| kylem | fabbione, i can probably do that. | 08:07 |
| fabbione | kylem: ok, can you let me know by the end of your day? | 08:08 |
| BenC | kylem: Sweet, can I pull now? | 08:08 |
| fabbione | kylem: an email or /msg will do | 08:08 |
| kylem | BenC, not yet, still some more patches to go in first. | 08:08 |
| BenC | ok | 08:08 |
| BenC | I got the pata_via bug, btw | 08:08 |
| zul | i have a bunch of patches for dapper-updates as well | 08:08 |
| BenC | it's an initramfs thing | 08:08 |
| kylem | mjg59, yeah, that's probably where i saw it, on mm. | 08:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: initramfs? the OOPS? | 08:09 |
| BenC | oh, that's right, you ended up with an oops | 08:09 |
| kylem | BenC, alright, won't spend time on that then. | 08:09 |
| fabbione | BenC: see 72824 | 08:09 |
| fabbione | kylem: no he is talking about another pata_via bug | 08:09 |
| BenC | fabbione: that's the one that doesn't occur when you remove quiet/splash? | 08:10 |
| BenC | or is it random? | 08:10 |
| kylem | fabbione, ah. | 08:10 |
| fabbione | BenC: it happens at random. I did re-test and it doesn't matter if you have quiet/splash | 08:10 |
| BenC | ok | 08:10 |
| fabbione | that one in the pic is without quiet/splash | 08:10 |
| kylem | that's nasty. | 08:10 |
| fabbione | it looks like it happens ONLY at boot | 08:10 |
| fabbione | machine didn't do anything fancy since i booted it | 08:10 |
| fabbione | uptime | 08:11 |
| fabbione | 20:11:05 up 12:36, 6 users, load average: 0.75, 0.41, 0.22 | 08:11 |
| fabbione | and no OOPS | 08:11 |
| fabbione | problem is getting there :) | 08:11 |
| BenC | I may end up switching via back to ide if it isn't an easy fix, but I'll try emailing AC about it | 08:11 |
| fabbione | well point him to the OOPS | 08:11 |
| fabbione | perhpas he knows | 08:11 |
| fabbione | or how can i stress test the system in a useful way | 08:11 |
| fabbione | it looks to me something related to bus/disk scanning | 08:12 |
| fabbione | since it doesn't happen after it boots | 08:12 |
| kylem | i don't see anything related in rc5-mm2. | 08:13 |
| kylem | fabbione, if you just want me to update the whole of ubuntu/fs/gfs/ from cvs, and make sure it builds, that's not a problem. | 08:20 |
| BenC | fabbione: I thought the same thing, sounded like a race between device initialization completion and first use of the disk | 08:21 |
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| zul | what is the config option i need for cciss? | 08:27 |
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| kylem | CONFIG_BLK_CPQ_CISS_DA | 08:28 |
| zul | thanks kylem | 08:28 |
| kylem | np | 08:31 |
| fabbione | kylem: yes, that's all i want and the patches we do locally to make it build, so i can push them upstream and keep the delta to 0 | 08:31 |
| fabbione | kylem: upstream is really fast taking our patches | 08:32 |
| fabbione | kylem: IDEALLY if you can give me the patches based on the CVS sources it would be even better, but that's optional | 08:33 |
| zul | BenC/kylem: is it easier for you guys to grab my patches through email to the mailing list or using a repo | 08:56 |
| BenC | pulling from a git repo is by far the easiest, as long as you adhere to the commit styles | 08:56 |
| BenC | templates I mean | 08:57 |
| zul | and nothing in the changelogs right? | 08:57 |
| kylem | and test build... | 08:58 |
| zul | cool | 08:58 |
| zul | ill set them up tonight | 09:00 |
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| zul | or try to, aniversary is tonight ;) | 09:04 |
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