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poningrurofl12:38
rED_HErrINGhey wheres the best place to get an ubuntu tshirt?12:50
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rED_HErrINGhybrid: it does exist.12:51
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Burgundaviaevening minions02:14
Burgundavia:)02:14
Burgundaviaanybody up for some UWN hacking?02:14
Red_heRRing|CODnah not tonight02:16
Burgundaviaright02:17
Burgundavianixternal, elkbuntu, poningru: going to slack off? :)02:17
Burgundavialophyte: yo02:18
poningrualright02:28
poningrusir yes sir02:28
poningruready to hack02:28
nixternaley?02:46
tonyyarussoMy god Burgundavia - it's like you have a direct link to my professors and schedule UWN specifically for when school is eating me alive.02:51
tonyyarussoOn the plus side, I already filled in some of the USNs, news, and other random items a few days ago02:51
Burgundaviatonyyarusso: ok, that rocks02:54
Burgundaviaponingru, nixternal: sorry, sucked into pp-racer02:54
Burgundaviaok02:54
nixternalhahaha02:54
Burgundavialet see responsive gobby.ubuntu.com is this week02:55
poningruheh02:55
Burgundaviahmm, not good02:55
Burgundavialets go to your server poningru02:55
poningrumk02:56
Burgundaviawhat is the IP again?02:56
poningruhuh... hold on02:56
poningruru@ip72-209-68-17802:56
poningrupassword is ufl@ftw02:57
poningruwhat week is this?02:57
poningru23?02:57
Burgundavia2202:57
poningrucool02:57
Burgundaviacreated02:57
Burgundaviahere are the tasks:02:58
Burgundavia1) community news02:58
Burgundavia2) update edgy/dapper chnages02:58
Burgundavia3) update USNs (if needed)02:58
Burgundavia4) bug count02:58
Burgundavia5) community news02:58
Burgundavia6) complete in the press section02:58
Burgundavia7) spell check and proof "spec of the week section"02:59
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poningru3 & 403:00
tonyyarussospec of the week?  that's new03:00
Burgundaviai yid03:02
Burgundaviait is, rather03:02
Burgundaviapart of communicating release goals better03:03
poningruhmm nice03:04
BurgundaviaI want to create a LookingFowardToFeisty doc some point as well03:05
poningrubrb03:08
Burgundaviaok, lots of urls on gobby to write about03:16
poningruooh indeed03:18
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nixternalhow about throwing in a little blurb about how microsoft says every linux user owes them money for their intellectual property03:34
elkbuntudo we really want to pollute our lovely UWN with stallman03:36
poningru...03:43
poningrustallman?03:43
poningruyou mean balmer03:43
nixternalwth03:43
nixternalstallman is the gnufather03:44
nixternalhe has worked harder than anyone towards software freedom, even though he can be rather barbaric in some of his attmpts...i am understanding him more and more each day03:44
elkbunturight03:45
elkbuntui was reading something about stallman when you mentioned the ballmer bullshit03:45
nixternalhehe03:45
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elkbuntumy brain is baked the the consistancy of a custard tart at the moment03:45
nixternali think mako sells FSF/GNU better than stallman does03:45
poningrummm custard tart03:45
nixternalomg custard tart!03:46
Burgundaviamako is actually sane03:47
nixternalhehe ya03:47
nixternalbut if he hangs around stallman anymore, he might lose that03:47
Burgundavianah03:47
Burgundaviamako understands how to communicate to non-geeks03:47
nixternalvery true03:47
nixternalstallman has the right ideas, just carries them out the wrong way03:48
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: stop procrastinating, start editing03:48
elkbuntuBurgundavia, im not procrastinating03:48
nixternalhahaha03:48
Burgundavianot editing UWN == procrastinating03:49
elkbuntuim unblocking my blog so i can check for comments03:49
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elkbuntu... are we back on poningru's gobby?03:58
Burgundaviayes04:04
Burgundavia2204:04
Burgundaviaponingru: those USNs, only 12-18th are displayed04:10
Burgundaviagrabbing dinner, so might in and out04:14
elkbuntuBurgundavia, was https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-November/000782.html supposed to be about the bosnian loco or the completely unrelated previous message in the thread04:17
Burgundavialoco team04:17
elkbuntui might mention the youth thing, in addition?04:18
elkbuntuhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-November/000781.html04:18
elkbuntuas an announcement.. maybe04:18
elkbuntui guess there's other issues it can be left for04:19
Burgundaviasure04:21
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, news done :)04:56
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: thanks04:56
Burgundaviacan you make each news item a seperate heading?04:57
elkbuntusure04:57
Burgundaviacan you dive into the "in the press" section next?04:58
elkbuntuk04:59
elkbuntuhmmm maybe i should have looked at the list before agreeing :05:01
elkbuntuBurgundavia, am i leaving your one-line comments in?05:02
elkbuntus/one/half/05:03
Burgundaviathose are not my comments05:03
elkbuntuthe articles need more than what is there, so i'll beef a bit05:03
=== poningru is diving in to press as well
elkbuntuponingru, see if you can figure out how to put more than half a line next to the openaddict review tihng05:08
poningruopenaddict?05:08
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poningruah ok05:09
elkbuntuBurgundavia, are we doing headings for each of the news stories or not?05:09
elkbuntus/news/press/05:09
Burgundavianope, no need to05:09
poningruoh...05:10
Burgundaviatonyyarusso: seeing as you appear to have some free time now05:11
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: Small amount, if I can multitask05:12
Burgundaviasure05:12
Burgundaviacan you cleanup the new versions from Debian?05:12
BurgundaviaI need to do the rest of the feisty changes05:13
tonyyarussoThe string of "Accepted"s we go you mean?05:13
tonyyarusso*got05:13
poningruBurgundavia: can you look through that cookie summary05:13
poningrusee if thats how big you want it05:13
poningrushould it go bigger?05:13
tonyyarussoIP?05:13
Burgundaviaperfect05:14
Burgundaviatonyyarusso: see the 22 page on the wiki05:14
elkbuntutonyyarusso, poningru's05:15
elkbuntu(look at his hostmask)05:15
Burgundaviafor the record, I still have 140 emails from feisty-changes to go through05:16
tonyyarussoJeepers.  My dad really needs a lesson in e-mail subject line writing.05:18
poningruwaah?05:18
poningruoh yeah05:18
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: Do you have something in particular in mind for "cleaning up" this list?05:20
Burgundaviatonyyarusso: make certain we only list the upstream version number05:20
Burgundaviaso X.X-Y <-- the Y is the debian version05:20
Burgundaviahave it appname XX - description and/or url05:21
Burgundaviaand put a star with a space on either side at the beginning of each line05:21
poningrudo we wanna do the art-work article?05:22
poningrusomeone else do that05:22
poningrualso someone who can speak dutch do https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-November/009381.html05:22
tonyyarussoAny reason some of these are indented an extra space or two?05:22
Burgundaviasimply because of copying errors05:24
tonyyarussoThought so, since I'm pretty sure the wiki ignores that anyway05:24
tonyyarussoThere's a youtube dl app?  Cool05:26
poningrutonyyarusso: there is a youtube download firefox extension05:31
tonyyarussoI should get that05:31
poningruvideodownloader05:33
poningruhttps://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/05:33
tonyyarussoty05:34
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tonyyarussoWhat's a version number of 1.0.1.dsfg-1 mean?05:36
Burgundavia1.0.1 upstream05:37
Burgundavianew tarball, because of non-free elements05:37
Burgundaviafirst debian version05:37
tonyyarussoah05:39
tonyyarussoI knew the -1 part, but not dsfg05:39
Burgundaviacan somebody write little pieces on those two mailing list posts in Feisty changes?06:00
tonyyarussoIf something has part of the version # in the app name, do I keep it there?06:00
Burgundaviacontext?06:03
elkbuntuponingru, im guessing you're gone and gotten busy, so i'm taking over your section :06:05
poningruis cool06:06
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: lsb-pkgchk3 3.0.3, mediawiki1.7 1.7.106:08
Burgundaviaright06:08
Burgundavialeave them06:08
tonyyarusso'k06:09
poningruelkbuntu: /me will start the spell checking06:13
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Burgundaviahey Madpilot06:16
Madpilothi06:17
elkbuntusomeone find a dutchman for the dutch thingie and the press is done06:17
elkbuntuafk06:17
Madpilothunting dutchmen is -marketing's latest hobby?06:21
poningruelkbuntu++06:22
poningrubwhahaha06:22
Burgundaviaasked in -nl06:23
tonyyarussoSomeone's thinking - weird06:24
poningruuh...06:26
poningruwe are discouraging easyubuntu?06:27
poningruor simple mistake?06:27
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Burgundaviawhere?06:27
poningrujust changed it06:28
poningruAnother review has been published at http://www.openaddict.com/page.php?26 This review is of Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell XPS M170 Laptop. The review is in-depth and has a slightly more technical format than the one above. The review also advocates the Use of EasyUbuntu, usage of which is encouraged over Automatix.06:28
poningruit was06:28
poningruAnother review has been published at http://www.openaddict.com/page.php?26 This review is of Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell XPS M170 Laptop. The review is in-depth and has a slightly more technical format than the one above. The review also advocates the Use of EasyUbuntu, which again, we discourage.06:29
Burgundaviawe discourage both06:29
poningruwe do?06:30
poningruwhy?06:30
Burgundaviathey both duplicate existing functionality within Ubuntu are known to cause issues06:30
poningruobviously re: former charge.. the point is to make it more accesible for users, re: former didnt know easyubuntu caused issues06:31
poningruerr latter06:31
Burgundavia"we discourage both, although EasyUbuntu is less likely to cause issues than Automatix"06:32
poningruk06:34
tonyyarussoOkay, there are 7 imports from Debian that don't have a URL/description still, but I got the versions and formatting done.  Could someone take care of that?  (I should get back to my electronics assignment)06:35
Burgundaviaok, will do06:36
Burgundaviathanks tonyyarusso06:36
tonyyarussoyw06:36
poningruready to go then06:36
Burgundaviaabout 75 left in my inbox to process06:36
tonyyarusso(Ubuntufy, poningru?)06:36
poningru:)06:36
poningruoh06:36
poningruBurgundavia: also we need the dutch translation thing06:37
Burgundaviayep, but I will drop that from this week if needed06:37
poningruyeah true that06:37
Burgundaviaponingru: can you write about those two urls I put in the Feisty section?06:40
poningrulooking06:40
Burgundaviaponingru: that isn't really breaking from convention06:45
poningruk06:45
Burgundaviaah, crap, missed this weeks LWN06:53
poningruLWN?06:54
Burgundavialinux weekly news06:54
poningruyou help write that too?06:54
poningruisnt that paid?06:54
poningrucan someone run a quick spell check/grammar check on the stuff I wrote06:55
Burgundaviano, but I try and make it so that the UWN hits this weeks06:55
Burgundaviaponingru: got it06:56
poningrusweet06:57
imbrandonk06:58
imbrandonBurgundavia: gobby.ubuntu.com ?06:58
Burgundavianah, poningru's server06:58
Burgundavia /whois poningru for the ip06:58
imbrandonk06:58
poningruyeah I had no idea how to write the bling para06:59
imbrandonsession pass ?06:59
imbrandonponingru / Burgundavia ^07:00
poningrusorry07:00
poningruufl@ftw07:00
imbrandonwe're working on 22 right ? heheh , i get in this so late each week :)07:01
poningruBurgundavia: why'd you quit?07:02
poningruoh07:03
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Burgundavia_grumble07:03
Burgundavia_machine hardlocked07:03
imbrandonouch07:03
imbrandonhrm Burgundavia_ looking back really only kde 3.5.5a got uploaded07:04
imbrandonthe rest was all small bug fixes07:05
Burgundavia_no, I have a bunch of kde-related apps07:05
Burgundavia_konversation, etc.07:05
imbrandonthose are all sync'd07:05
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Burgundavia_sync'd still gets talkeda bout07:05
imbrandonahh ok07:05
poningru:)07:06
poningruwe nitpick07:06
tonyyarussoI'm still confused about this "Desktop Bling" stuff - I have an ATI card - what will happen for me?07:08
poningruno clue... alteast mathewgarrett doesnt know07:09
=== poningru neither btw
poningruBurgundavia_: where were you going with that bling?07:10
Burgundavia_out back, to shoot it07:11
elkbuntuponingru, re easyubuntu and automatix... we frown on both equally, for diplomatic reasons that are completely lost on the automatix crowd anyway07:11
poningruerr the latter of which is...07:11
poningruhmm07:11
poningruROFL07:11
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poningruI like mine well done07:11
elkbuntuyeah, if i find half-baked bling on my plate, i will not be happy07:12
poningruyeah make sure to use the AIGLX sauce07:13
poningruthat old XGL sauce just doesnt cut it anymore07:13
Burgundavia_too odd a taste07:13
poningruindeed07:14
=== tonyyarusso wonders why we have compiz and not beryl so far
imbrandonbecause compize was arround first , is stable(er) and  someone cared enough to package it properly :)07:15
Burgundavia_because compiz is only mild crack and beryl is full on ragging not-coming-back-from-this-trip crack07:15
Burgundavia_raging, rather07:15
imbrandonhahaha exactly07:15
imbrandoni was trying to say it diplomaticly07:15
imbrandonbut Burgundavia_ hit the nail on the head07:15
elkbuntuyou only have to meet quinn storm in person to understand what happened07:16
tonyyarussoimbrandon: Is that a final decision, or a how things stand now at the initial sync stage decision?07:16
Burgundavia_why so?07:16
Burgundavia_tonyyarusso: it is a fight between the world and mark07:16
imbrandonyou only have to ask him a few simple questions "why did you fork compiz" in the BoF to see why also07:16
Burgundavia_the rest of the dev team is wants compiz, at the most07:16
elkbuntuhe... err.. she is... an interesting character07:16
poningrurofl07:17
Burgundavia_and given they upload to Ubuntu...07:17
Burgundavia_so basically, the dev team is trying to do and end run around Mark by putting in compiz first and seeing if it sticks07:17
imbrandontonyyarusso: nothing i say is "official" but i was in the room when the decisions were being made and i can assure you it will be a cold day in hell when beryl is default in feisty07:18
imbrandonBurgundavia_: compiz was in ubuntu before beryl forked07:18
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Burgundavia_imbrandon: yes, but the compiz was mostly beryl for a while07:18
imbrandonBurgundavia: true, thats when there was only one crack07:19
elkbuntuand i think we should drop this here...07:19
elkbuntubefore we say bad things07:19
imbrandonbut still its not the dev's trying to go arround mark, i think we finaly convinced him at UDS how crackfull it was, and how he made a technical decision without looking at the technical end07:19
imbrandonbut anyhow , its all crack and needs to die basicly imho untill it can be proven to work reliably for more than a week on 4 systems07:20
=== tonyyarusso obviously opened a much larger can of worms than he anticipated
BurgundaviaI think this whole binary driver thing is going to die as well07:20
imbrandontonyyarusso: :)07:20
imbrandonBurgundavia: yea i think so too, i can only hope on that one07:21
poningruBurgundavia: sweet07:21
BurgundaviaI expect the reason that AcceleratedX has not been approved is because mdz is having a raging battle with Mark right now07:21
imbrandonBurgundavia: yea07:21
imbrandonmdz and scott both07:21
elkbuntuand anyone with a clue in a position to do so07:22
poningrucan someone check through the bling thing07:22
imbrandonhrm, i need to become a better writer, i cant think of any more kde hotness this week, i should start this brainstorm as soon as the old UWN is out each time07:22
Burgundaviayep07:23
Burgundaviathe wiki page has been up for a week now07:23
imbrandonelkbuntu / Burgundavia , mind proofing 41 , while i dig some more kubuntu stuff up07:23
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: can you do that? few more bits of uploads07:23
elkbuntualready on it07:23
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imbrandonhehe07:25
imbrandoni always try to use green, my fav color ( just not that shade )07:25
tonyyarussoI need to pick a good color and stick with it - I'm a different one every time07:25
poningruhehe07:26
poningruyour client should remember07:26
BurgundaviaI am almost always the light blue07:26
imbrandonlooks purple here, might be my mopnitor07:26
imbrandonmonitor*07:26
Burgundaviamust be that KDE crack :)07:27
elkbuntuand i seem to go pink...07:27
poningruhehe /me is always orange07:28
elkbuntuone of the first gobby sessions, it was literally the boys all in blues, and me in pink :-/07:28
poningrurofl07:29
elkbuntuBurgundavia, remember that?07:29
Burgundavianot really07:30
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Burgundaviamy memory is a seive07:30
elkbuntuyou pointed it out, i hadnt noticed it until you said it either07:30
elkbuntuaaaaanyway07:30
poningru...07:31
poningruremoving dutch thingy07:31
poningruobjections?07:31
elkbuntuleave it until we know if we can find a translator07:31
Burgundaviaponingru: got me a dutch speaker07:31
poningrublargh?07:32
Burgundaviahe is incoming07:32
Madpilotstill hunting Dutchmen?07:32
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poningruMadpilot: no dude we were hunting bling07:32
BurgundaviaMadpilot: you really don't read your own loco teams channel, do you?07:32
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Burgundaviaand he arrives07:32
MadpilotBurgundavia, I just got back from being afk, so no, I haven't07:32
poningrudutchmen were coming for dinner07:32
Burgundaviahey matjan07:32
poningru*** Dutch translation assistance needed*** https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-November/009381.html07:32
matjanhey07:33
elkbuntumake us a lovely story and we'll.. um.. shower you with huggles!07:33
matjanelkbuntu, you were talking to me?07:35
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: you still proofing?'07:35
elkbuntuBurgundavia, i'll be back to it in a sec07:35
Burgundaviaok07:35
matjanahhh.. JanC07:36
matjanthe usual suspects07:36
Burgundaviacan somebody write that upcoming events article?07:38
matjanBurgundavia, so what needs translation?07:38
tonyyarussomatjan: See the URL poningru posted07:38
Burgundaviawhat does the new article say?07:39
Burgundaviaanything different from the mail?07:39
matjanyou mean the first link in JanC's post?07:40
Burgundaviayep07:40
matjanlet me check07:40
Burgundaviaanybody missing from the credits?07:41
matjanwhat is translated in the JanC's post is only the first paragraph of that article07:42
elkbuntumatjan, we would like the whole article :)07:42
matjanok, before when?07:43
matjanand will someone else proofread?07:43
tonyyarussoIs our translator in the credits?07:43
elkbuntuBurgundavia, when are you sending this edition forth?07:43
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: in an hour07:44
Burgundaviatonyyarusso: once he tells me his full name07:44
elkbuntumatjan, can you do it in an hour?07:44
Burgundaviamatjan: we just need the gist, to write a short summary07:44
tonyyarussoI'm amused by the English spelling debate we seem to have on line 2907:45
elkbuntutonyyarusso, has it been changed again?07:45
Burgundaviacan anybody make heads or tails of the post sent to the marketing list?07:46
Burgundaviathe mint and pclinuxos one?07:46
Burgundavias/?//07:46
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: It's at z now07:46
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: UCK is z07:46
matjanelkbuntu, it is already 1.50aqm here, and i am also working on some other stuff...07:46
Burgundaviaso we now have one of each07:46
Burgundaviamatjan: ok, quick summary, do the rest of the paragraphs change anything from the first one?07:47
elkbuntuare you meaning in 'customise'07:47
Burgundaviayes07:47
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: No idea - first off, it's at #5107:48
Burgundaviayep07:48
Burgundaviamint has hit #1, but I don't expect that to last07:48
tonyyarussoI think this person missed the point that "Linux is not Windows"07:48
matjanBurgundavia, the second paragrah describes how the software was selected, that thre are no server apps, and there is a windoeze and a linux version (linux being breezy)07:49
Burgundaviaah, ok07:50
Burgundaviathat is enough for us, thanks07:50
BurgundaviaI see only proofreading after that. Anybody else?07:51
Burgundaviamatjan: what is your full name? I need it for the credits07:51
elkbuntuBurgundavia, i've sent my eyes over it, but someone needs to go over again focussing on the pink stuff.. and hopefully not americanise everything07:52
Burgundaviaheh07:52
matjanBurgundavia, third paragraph describes in a bit more detail what 3 sorts of software that are present: 1. educational, 2. general use (office apps etc.), 3. open educational tools (information sharing, etc)07:52
matjanBurgundavia, matty janssen07:53
Burgundaviaperfect07:53
poningruelkbuntu: hehe that z was me :p07:54
elkbuntuponingru, listen to the canadian and the australian, use s :07:54
Burgundavia'ecept canada uses z07:54
poningruindeed07:55
elkbuntubut you changed it back07:55
poningrumeh07:55
poningrubrits use s07:55
matjanBurgundavia, ok, cool07:55
elkbuntuponingru, we write the newsletter in english, not american07:55
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: Wait, they do?  The ca spellchecking stuff says s, so that's what I've been trying to adapt to.07:56
poningrublargh?07:56
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poningruamerican english is english07:56
poningru:p07:56
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tonyyarussoponingru: Sorry, as an American, I'm agreeing with the other folks.  Might as well do it the way the entire planet but us do.07:57
elkbuntuponingru, no.. american english is american07:57
poningruoh no I was agreeing with them also07:57
poningruI was just 'ruffling my feathers'07:57
elkbuntuthe same as australian english is australian.07:57
poningrui...c07:58
Burgundaviaok, final spell check everybody07:58
Burgundaviaanybody still editing?08:03
poningrureading08:03
poningruoh yeah its good08:03
Burgundaviaok, I need to do some dishes, so I will be back in 10 or so08:04
tonyyarussoNot I, said the dinosaur08:04
poningruyuhuh you have to do the dishes08:04
poningrunn guys08:09
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matjanBurgundavia, where is the weekly news available?08:11
elkbuntumatjan, always on the wiki, and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/08:12
matjanelkbuntu, ok, thanks08:13
Burgundaviacopying back to the wiki. Any objections?08:16
tonyyarussonope08:18
Burgundaviayou realize we right the largest and most reguarly published distro weekly news?08:18
tonyyarussos/right/write/08:18
tonyyarussoI didn't know that08:18
Burgundaviaright08:18
BurgundaviaDWN is dead08:18
BurgundaviaGWN is intermittent08:18
BurgundaviaFWN is pretty short08:19
elkbuntuwe rock08:19
tonyyarussoas usual08:20
Burgundaviaand away08:21
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Burgundaviacan somebody write a short piece for the fridge?08:25
BurgundaviaI can post it if somebody writes up something08:25
matjanBurgundavia, if you need some more dutch to english translation for the UWN, just let me know...08:25
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lotusleafBurgundavia: what are you looking for?08:25
Burgundaviamatjan: cool, tahnks08:25
Burgundavialotusleaf: look at previous articles for the fridge08:26
matjanBurgundavia, cool to see my name listed there ;)08:26
lotusleafBurgundavia: ? followup of same content?08:26
elkbuntuBurgundavia, is the piece for the fridge allowed to laugh at the other *WNs?08:26
Burgundaviahttp://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/63108:26
lotusleafthx08:26
Burgundaviasomething similar to that08:26
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: no08:26
elkbuntuBurgundavia, awww.. you ruin all the fun08:27
Burgundaviaand you want to violate the CoC08:27
elkbuntuand you think i was at any point serious... shame08:27
lotusleafBurgundavia: just a summary?08:27
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Burgundaviayep, just like that08:28
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: no context in irc08:28
lotusleaftypo!: "Go some news?"08:28
lotusleaf:)08:28
Burgundaviawhere?08:29
lotusleaflast part of above link u referenced08:29
elkbuntuBurgundavia, you ought to know me better by now though08:30
BurgundaviaI should08:30
Burgundaviaright08:30
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tonyyarusso.....08:31
cafuegore Burgundavia's request in #ubuntu-nl :-)08:31
Burgundaviacafuego: welcome. Our need for a translator has passed, due to the excellent efforts of matjan08:31
cafuegoCool. I was just saying I'd love to, but have no time for a few days to come08:32
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Burgundaviathanks for coming by08:33
elkbuntuBurgundavia, has anyone put a call over the loco-contacts list yet?08:33
BurgundaviaI am sure we can rope you into something08:33
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: for which?08:34
Burgundaviageneral translations?08:34
cafuegomatjan: purrima :-)08:34
elkbuntuBurgundavia, encouraging locos to send stuff to us08:34
Burgundaviaelkbuntu: can you?08:34
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elkbuntuBurgundavia, was just thinking about it, yeah08:34
elkbuntuBurgundavia, i'll include a call for translations as well08:36
Burgundaviamention that we are looking at translations right now08:36
elkbuntuyep08:37
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lotusleafdid anyone ever followup on the attempt to get the roughtcut poster mentioned on boingboing?08:37
Burgundaviano idea08:37
Burgundavialotusleaf: how you doing?08:38
lotusleafI think it was poningru who was emailing people08:38
lotusleafBurgundavia: I haven't started on the summary, not sure what to base it on this time, is there a list of topics you'd like referenced as per the list in the fridge for last time?08:38
Burgundavialook at UWN 23, grab some interesting topics and summarise it08:39
lotusleafBurgundavia: k thx! :)08:39
Burgundaviano worries08:39
Burgundaviaponingru: when you wake up, can you cleanup the gobby session?08:41
lotusleafBurgundavia: linky to wip for #23? @ gobby loc?08:42
Burgundaviauwn 23 is now live08:42
Burgundaviaon the wii08:42
Burgundaviawiki08:42
lotusleafk thx08:42
lotusleafhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue23 ??08:43
tonyyarussoyes08:44
tonyyarussowait...08:44
elkbuntuhttp://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonoBacon/08:44
Burgundaviahmm, forgot about that08:45
Burgundavianext week08:45
lotusleafBurgundavia: where do I take a summary from, it looks like it's blank in the above url I referenced08:45
Burgundavialotusleaf: need to write it08:45
elkbuntuBurgundavia, push it to the fridge too08:45
Burgundaviasorry , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue2208:45
lotusleafah! :) thank you08:45
lotusleafso pull summary from #22 items?08:45
Burgundaviayep08:46
lotusleafk thx08:46
Burgundaviano worries08:46
lotusleafso you post summaries of UWN 3 days or so following the release #?08:47
Burgundaviano, asap08:47
Burgundaviachallenge is finding an editor08:48
lotusleafah08:48
lotusleaflemmie see what I can slap together08:48
Burgundaviamostly I have been lazy and have not yet sorted my editing account08:48
lotusleafBurgundavia: hey, man, the more ppl who can make your work load lighter, the better, right? :)08:49
Burgundaviayep08:49
tonyyarussoUh oh...08:51
tonyyarussoThat upgrade did not go well08:51
elkbuntuBurgundavia, where should i get them to send info to? -marketing list or....?08:52
Burgundaviamarketing list is good08:53
Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LookingFowardAtFeisty <-- next big project08:54
Burgundaviafeel free to start writing on this one08:54
Burgundaviawhat were the alpha releases in edgy called?08:54
lotusleafBurgundavia: will there be a UWN over the holidays?08:55
Burgundaviaof course08:55
lotusleafk thx08:55
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: Knots.....  Didn't you _write_ the Knot reviews?08:57
Burgundaviayes, yes I did08:57
tonyyarussoWow....08:57
lotusleafBurgundavia: are links within the fridge <a href=" "> blah </a> ?08:57
Burgundaviaafaik, yes08:57
lotusleafor should I just write (link) for you to include link08:57
lotusleafk thx08:57
Burgundaviayep08:58
lotusleaf"Feisty on the Schedule" or should it be "Feisty on Schedule" ?09:03
Burgundaviathe latter09:03
lotusleafright, you may want to fix that title on first item on #22 under GCN09:04
Burgundaviacan you change it?09:04
lotusleafBurgundavia: I've never edited the wiki before, do I need an account or just launchpad?09:04
tonyyarussoBurgundavia: Minor punctuation issues.09:04
Burgundaviajust lp09:05
lotusleafk thx09:05
Burgundaviatonyyarusso: fix it up09:05
tonyyarussoWill do - lotusleaf, let me know when you're done so I don't mess up your changes09:05
lotusleaftonyyarusso: k thx just gimmie a few mins, first time touching the wiki :)09:05
lotusleafack.. have to set default prefs.. :P09:08
Burgundaviano you dont09:08
Burgundaviaignore that09:08
lotusleafk09:09
tonyyarussoOh shoot.  I made a formatting booboo on the USNs too.09:10
Burgundaviathat you did09:11
Burgundavialuckily that only shows up on the wiki, not on the email09:11
tonyyarussoYeah really.09:12
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lotusleaftonyyarusso: correction made, proceed :)09:13
tonyyarussolotusleaf: Grazie09:14
lotusleafBurgundavia: does it show IP in public view as well for user?09:15
BurgundaviaIP?09:15
lotusleafIP address09:15
Burgundaviapublic view for user? sorry, slowing down here09:15
lotusleafin last edited section date time user09:15
lotusleafwhen I mouse over the username it shows IP09:15
Burgundaviahmm, no idea09:16
lotusleafperhaps it's just for my current session or for logged in users09:17
lotusleafk thx09:17
Burgundavialotusleaf: email me your stuff09:17
lotusleafBurgundavia: modding the wiki took time away, I'll have to get back to that now for the summary, I'll paste bin it09:17
Burgundaviajust email me, as I am going to sleep now09:18
lotusleafgoing back to work on that summary now ;)09:18
tonyyarussoAll better.09:19
lotusleafyup, it shows ips public ;P09:21
lotusleafhmm.. so it's not like wikipedia in that respect09:21
lotusleafyup, mouseover usernames without logging in, all show up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue22?action=info09:23
tonyyarussoWell, at least now it show my IP instead of yours, and I really don't care09:23
lotusleaftonyyarusso: it shows mine in the url I referenced above ^^^09:24
tonyyarussoso it does09:24
lotusleaftonyyarusso: well, I do care cuz now it's g00gl3able. ;(09:26
tonyyarussoBah, oh well09:27
lotusleafindeed09:29
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lotusleafBurgundavia: still awake? :)10:00
lotusleafMadpilot: ping?10:13
Madpilotlotusleaf, pong - was just about to crash for the night10:13
lotusleafMadpilot: roger that, just had a gfx editor question re: roughcut designs10:13
Madpilothmm?10:14
lotusleafMadpilot: what's the best editor to use to make cool banner designs?10:14
lotusleafMadpilot: or nifty thumbnails for websites10:14
Madpilotprobably the GIMP, if you just want to work with the existing images. Otherwise, Inkscape.10:15
lotusleafMadpilot: k, thx, gonna check some tutorials, have a good one =)10:15
Madpilotnp.10:15
MadpilotI will get that new banner for your website done by the end of this week, BTW.10:16
lotusleafMadpilot: thx, no rush, even if it takes you a year or so ;)10:16
Madpilotno, you should have them by Saturday.10:16
lotusleaf=) Awesome, thx10:17
Madpilotnp. Now, I need sleep. Work expects me to get up far to early.10:17
Madpilotlike, before 11am. ;)10:17
lotusleafMadpilot: ha, have a good one10:17
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lotusleaftonyyarusso: welcome back10:37
tonyyarusso:)10:37
lotusleaftonyyarusso: well my first tiny go at the ubuntu wiki was painless enough, and a little fun ;)10:37
tonyyarussolotusleaf: Good for you!10:37
lotusleaf(=10:37
elkbuntulotusleaf, have you made yourself a wikipage yet?10:38
tonyyarussoIt's really not so bad for a while, and then you try to do something that should be simple, but is totally not intuitive - like unwikifying a NonWikiWord that it mistakenly assumes must be a WikiWord10:38
elkbuntu`` is your friend10:38
lotusleaftonyyarusso: ya? :P10:38
tonyyarussoelkbuntu: So I learned, but seriously, that's a whacked punctuation.10:39
elkbuntutonyyarusso, every wiki has it's quirks10:39
lotusleafelkbuntu: `` ? I see I have much to learn. About the only wiki I've edited before now was Wikipedia.10:39
lotusleaftonyyarusso: I'll stick with the light stuff, then. =)10:39
elkbuntulotusleaf, making yourself a wiki page is a good excuse to learn the wiki and experiment a bit, without imploding other people's work :)10:39
lotusleafelkbuntu: ha, no doubt, thanks ;)10:40
lotusleafelkbuntu: does that include making an ascii lotus leaf picture?10:40
tonyyarussoIf you want10:41
lotusleafr0x0r10:41
jendaLearning the wiki is a good excuse to implode other peoples work, unless you start with making yourself a wiki page.10:41
jenda}:->10:41
lotusleaf?!?! <-- floats above head10:41
lotusleafhow about an #ubuntu-marketing-offtopic ? :)10:41
jendahehe :) please no. We have too many channels already.10:42
lotusleafjenda: d'oh, too late. j/k ;)10:42
lotusleafI have many an offtopic yet marketing related comment or question, I just don't know where to put it10:42
jendaif it's marketing related, it's not offopic.10:47
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danbuch929I've already submitted a more detailed message via the mailing list about this, but for all who are interested, the current version of the DIY Marketing website is ready for a round of criticism: http://diy.devubuntu.com/11:57
tonyyarussowoohoo11:58
danbuch929is that a vote of confidence?  :-)12:04
tonyyarussoI haven't looked yet, it's just cool that it exists12:06
danbuch929ah, good...  yes, I'm thrilled that it's moving along.  Jenda's been a wonderful mentor to this noob.12:08
danbuch929for those that use bzr, I've just pushed out a revision of all the sources, too12:09
elkbuntunice12:14
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jendawoo :)02:12
lotusleafjenda: wee02:28
lotusleafjenda: you around? I have a question re: wiki editing, very simple one02:29
jendago on?02:29
lotusleafjenda: thanks, I noticed some outdated information on a kubuntu wiki and I thought about correcting it, should I dive right in or msg a kubuntu person? I tried imbrandon but he's afk it seems. I'm new to editing *buntu wikis and wondered if the approach should be 'ask first' or dive right in?02:30
jendadive right in.02:31
lotusleafjenda: roger that, thx =)02:31
lotusleafjenda: sell all your posters?02:31
jendaThe kubuntu people will be notified automatically, and if you screw up, you're in trouble :)02:31
lotusleafhahaha :)02:31
jendahowever, the wiki can easily be reverted, so no biggie.02:31
lotusleafcool =) thx for the extra info02:31
jenda178 posters left.02:31
lotusleafcool, someone should change the # on the ubuntuforums green header info thing02:32
lotusleafthat would drive up demand02:32
lotusleaf:)02:32
lotusleafonly ### remaining!02:32
jendahhe :)02:32
lotusleaf8)02:32
jendaI have that in the thread, but I can't bother them admins each time someone buys :)02:32
jendaI'll get the number changed once we are under 10002:33
lotusleafjenda: ha, true. :) have you thought about setting up some type of official ubuntu marketing on-line store?02:33
lotusleafjenda: you know, like cafepress but done differently?02:33
jendathat's kind-of the diy site02:33
lotusleafah! :)02:33
jendabut it will also offer downloads.02:33
lotusleafawesome02:33
jendaAnd the entire point is that the material is done _unofficially_02:33
lotusleafya02:34
lotusleafI'd like to see an ubuntu logo hoola hoop :)02:34
jendaas in, it's the manufacturer himself who manages all the quality control and finances, and thus eliminates the need for a QA team and a financial apparatus, reducing the strain on Ubuntu02:34
jendaand throwing it on the producer...02:34
lotusleafah, very true02:34
jenda...who is me, currently :/02:34
lotusleafjenda: do you ever take a vacation? :)02:35
jendaNo :)02:35
lotusleaf:-)02:35
jendaBut I try to study in the meantime.02:35
lotusleafthat's good02:35
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lotusleafthanks again for the help02:36
jendayw :)02:36
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poningruwaah05:02
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lotusleafponingru: what seems to be the problem?05:03
poningrurofl05:04
poningruactually that was another form of wtf05:04
poningruor what?05:04
lotusleafponingru: no boingboing magic :(05:05
lotusleafponingru: but hey, news about a 90 year old blogger, cool! :P05:05
poningruI know :(05:06
lotusleafoh well, we tried =)05:06
lotusleafI wonder if Wil Wheaton uses Ubuntu05:07
poningruno I am gonna try again05:10
poningrubrb05:10
lotusleafyeah? cool!05:11
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dr_nickhi everybody!07:13
lotusleafwhat's up doc?07:13
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tsmithethat's all wrong07:14
tsmitheyou're supposed hi say "hi dr. nick"07:14
tsmithedo you not watch the simpsons?!07:14
lotusleaftomorrow on #ubuntu-drama, dr_nick and disco stu trade chewing gum as the sun sets07:14
lotusleafI used to watch simpsons, especially in #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)07:15
tsmithewhat?07:15
lotusleaftsmithe: this channel is logged, I don't want to fill it with unrelated offtopic ;)07:16
tsmitheok07:16
tsmithesorry jenda07:16
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tsmithe@lart jenda for the hell of it10:47
tsmithedamn10:47
tsmitheno Ubugtu10:47
elkbuntufor a very good reason10:48
poningrublargh10:59
tsmitheelkbuntu, yes... "good"... "reason"...11:03
tsmitheindeed...11:03
tsmithei'm sure...11:03
tsmithe"good"11:03
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tsmithebah11:05
poningrublargh?11:09
poningruyou know we should get this press team thing started up11:09
poningruI mean granted ceo is the biggest marketing person for a company11:09
poningrubut still sabdfl shouldnt have to do all the work...11:10
elkbuntuponingru, i think it's a bit more complicated than that11:10
poningruwell yeah11:10
poningruI wanted to start with local press11:10
tsmithepress team11:11
tsmithecount me11:11
poningruin?11:11
tsmithein11:11
poningru:p11:11
tsmitheyes in11:11
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/PressTeam11:11
poningruwe need to change mathew as lead11:12
poningruif no one is willing to step up11:12
poningruI am willing to do it11:12
tsmithei am also... but i have no time11:12
tsmitheso i am a bad choice11:12
poningruthe problem is11:12
tsmithedon't pick me11:12
tsmitheyes, poningru11:12
poningruI will be absent sometimes I will be absent for like 2 weeks or so11:13
poningrudue to tests/papers11:13
poningruhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/PressTeam/EPK11:13
poningruthat is what I wanted to push for edgy11:13
tsmithesame11:13
tsmitheo11:13
tsmithek11:13
poningrubut I never got to it11:13
poningruand so I am thinking lets do that for Feisty11:14
tsmithei can write a "press release" with ease11:14
poningruyeah I think canonical writes the press releases11:15
tsmithedamn11:15
tsmitheso what's that page in aid of11:15
poningruthe problem is getting them to the local pres11:15
poningrus11:15
tsmithei'd write my own11:15
poningruyeah... except we have to talk to canonical about this11:15
tsmitheevery loco team should have a press-release-dude who sends out these to the local press11:15
poningruBurgwork^^11:15
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tsmitheeven if it's just the standard canonical (pun, eh!) release11:16
poningruerr that should have been for jono except he isnt here11:16
Burgworkright11:16
poningruright translation etc. for the local press11:16
Burgworkthe press team should go a collect somebody from each loco to help them get into the local press11:16
tsmithethat's what i said11:17
tsmitheany other points, any one?11:18
tsmithethis should have a spec11:18
poningruwhen is loco team meeting?11:18
Burgworkyou need to go to each loco team and ask them11:18
tsmithenot during school heures hopefully11:18
tsmitheindeed11:20
poningrutsmithe: can you add howto write your own press release onto that page?11:21
poningruthe EPK11:21
tsmitheponingru, i will, maybe tomorrow11:21
poningrucool thanks11:21
tsmithegotta go to bed. do homework11:21
tsmitheetc11:21
poningruI will talk to jono or elkbuntu11:21
poningrutrue11:21
poningruwhere are you from?11:21
tsmithekent11:21
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poningrukent?11:22
tsmitheyou should know where it is11:22
tsmithei know where florida is11:22
poningrutoo many kents around dude11:22
tsmithe*the* kent11:22
tsmitheoriginal11:22
poningrulike the one in UK?11:22
elkbuntuponingru, the guy has .uk hostmask11:22
tsmithenot like11:22
poningruor the one in US11:22
poningruoh...11:22
tsmithethere is only one kent11:23
poningru:(11:23
poningruhehe11:23
poningruthere is a kent in the US11:23
tsmitheit's fickle11:23
poningrusomewhere in northern US near the lakes iirc11:23
poningruanyway should we write up a spec for this?11:24
tsmitheyes11:24
tsmitheloco-press-releases?11:25
poningruyeah allows us to communicate with canonical much easier11:25
poningrusounds good11:25
tsmitheindeed11:25
poningruI will work on that today11:25
tsmitheit should have the contents of EPK on it?11:25
poningruhmm that was mostly written up to help people11:25
poningruthe spec should have more than that11:25
tsmitheIndeed, but: Implementation11:25
poningruas in what we are trying to accomplish etc.11:25
poningruarr?11:26
tsmithee-mail me the address of the spec11:26
elkbuntuponingru, how's your loco going?11:26
poningruk11:26
poningruelkbuntu: hehe11:26
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poningruelkbuntu: would it be possible for you to talk to jono? I would... its just I have no clue how to contact him except through email11:28
elkbuntutalk to him about what?11:28
poningruthe spec11:28
poningruerr nm11:28
poningruI will email to the loco team11:28
poningrulist11:28
tsmithewhich loco team?11:29
elkbuntutsmithe, loco-contacts@l.u.c11:29
poningruTHE loco list11:29
tsmitheoh right11:29
poningruyeah11:29
tsmithei better sign up to that list11:29
poningruhehe11:30
poningruyeah I will work on this tonight11:30
tsmithetonight or today?11:30
poningruerr its only 1730 here11:30
tsmitheah... i dunno ;)11:30
poningruso toinght11:30
poningruerr tonight11:31
=== jenda just got back from the first ever Czech LoCo meeting :)
tsmithelol11:31
poningruooh nice11:31
tsmithehow'd it go?11:31
poningrujenda: physical meeting? 0.o11:31
tsmithesounds like it11:31
tsmitheto get back from...11:31
elkbuntuyou people with tiny countries are so lucky11:31
poningruyeah11:31
jendaponingru: yes!11:31
tsmithewow11:31
jendathere were...11:31
jendaan unbelievable..11:32
jenda5 of us!!!11:32
tsmitheelkbuntu, is england tiny in your reckoning?11:32
poningrutsmithe: very11:32
elkbuntutsmithe, yes11:32
Burgworkall you people have it easy11:32
BurgworkI have people seperated by 6000km11:32
tsmithewhich people?11:32
poningruhah the US is frackin huge11:32
poningrurofl11:32
tsmitheyeah...11:32
tsmithebut for a place hundreds of times the size11:32
tsmitheit only has 5x the population11:32
tsmitheso england is more crowded11:32
poningrutrue11:32
poningrujenda: where was it?11:33
poningruwhich city?11:33
=== poningru assumes Prague
=== tsmithe is of the accord
jendaponingru: you assume right11:34
jendaWe don't have any other cities:)11:34
poningruhehe11:34
elkbuntuBurgwork, all due respect dude.. perth -- sydney isnt a whole lot better... the actual milage becomes a moot point when it takes more than a day to drive11:34
jendaIn fact, Prague is the biggest village ;)11:34
poningrurofl11:34
tsmithei live on a farm ;)11:34
Burgworkelkbuntu:  but most of your population is in one strip11:34
elkbuntua doglegged one11:35
tsmithemeh11:35
tsmithei'm off11:35
elkbuntuactually.. a dog leg with two knees11:35
tsmithewill help with loco-press-releases tomorrow11:35
poningrunn dude11:36
tsmithecoolio11:36
poningruBurgwork: look who's talking11:36
poningrucanada is an entire strip11:36
poningrupopulation of*11:36
Burgworkeast coast of aussie is shorter than the canadian one11:36
poningruits a very wide strip but still...11:37
poningruhmm true11:37
elkbuntuBurgwork, adelaide is quite fruitful for us too, you know11:37
poningruhehe I have a friend in adelaide11:37
poningruoriginally from sydney11:38
poningruhe runs plugindoc for mofo11:38
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elkbuntuBurgwork, when this finally loads, it's probably about a third of our LoCo Population irc+list http://www.frappr.com/UbuntuAustralianTeam11:48
jendaelkbuntu: no forum?11:49
elkbuntujenda, going through the debating about whether we need one11:49
elkbuntujenda, we tend to speak the same language as ubuntuforums.org11:49
jendaindeed11:49
jendayou can request an english subforum there, though, if you want :)11:49
jendaMany english-speaking teams have.11:50
elkbuntujenda, yes, but i am highly cautious about getting involved with ubuntuforums at the moment11:50
poningruyeah same here11:51
poningruI dont have good experience11:51
poningruwith the admin11:51
elkbuntuponingru, for completely different reasons11:51
elkbuntuwell.. mostly different11:52
jendaponingru: it's changed a lot :)11:52
jenda(ever since I'm staff)11:52
poningruwoah11:52
jenda:-D11:52
jendajust kidding - I had little impact11:52
poningrucc just put up an office in brisbane11:52
elkbuntuponingru, ooh?11:53
poningruhttp://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/615911:53

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