[12:38] <poningru> rofl
[12:50] <rED_HErrING> hey wheres the best place to get an ubuntu tshirt?
[12:51] <rED_HErrING> hybrid: it does exist.
[02:14] <Burgundavia> evening minions
[02:14] <Burgundavia> :)
[02:14] <Burgundavia> anybody up for some UWN hacking?
[02:16] <Red_heRRing|COD> nah not tonight
[02:17] <Burgundavia> right
[02:17] <Burgundavia> nixternal, elkbuntu, poningru: going to slack off? :)
[02:18] <Burgundavia> lophyte: yo
[02:28] <poningru> alright
[02:28] <poningru> sir yes sir
[02:28] <poningru> ready to hack
[02:46] <nixternal> ey?
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> My god Burgundavia - it's like you have a direct link to my professors and schedule UWN specifically for when school is eating me alive.
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> On the plus side, I already filled in some of the USNs, news, and other random items a few days ago
[02:54] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: ok, that rocks
[02:54] <Burgundavia> poningru, nixternal: sorry, sucked into pp-racer
[02:54] <Burgundavia> ok
[02:54] <nixternal> hahaha
[02:55] <Burgundavia> let see responsive gobby.ubuntu.com is this week
[02:55] <poningru> heh
[02:55] <Burgundavia> hmm, not good
[02:55] <Burgundavia> lets go to your server poningru
[02:56] <poningru> mk
[02:56] <Burgundavia> what is the IP again?
[02:56] <poningru> huh... hold on
[02:56] <poningru> ru@ip72-209-68-178
[02:57] <poningru> password is ufl@ftw
[02:57] <poningru> what week is this?
[02:57] <poningru> 23?
[02:57] <Burgundavia> 22
[02:57] <poningru> cool
[02:57] <Burgundavia> created
[02:58] <Burgundavia> here are the tasks:
[02:58] <Burgundavia> 1) community news
[02:58] <Burgundavia> 2) update edgy/dapper chnages
[02:58] <Burgundavia> 3) update USNs (if needed)
[02:58] <Burgundavia> 4) bug count
[02:58] <Burgundavia> 5) community news
[02:58] <Burgundavia> 6) complete in the press section
[02:59] <Burgundavia> 7) spell check and proof "spec of the week section"
[03:00] <poningru> 3 & 4
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> spec of the week?  that's new
[03:02] <Burgundavia> i yid
[03:02] <Burgundavia> it is, rather
[03:03] <Burgundavia> part of communicating release goals better
[03:04] <poningru> hmm nice
[03:05] <Burgundavia> I want to create a LookingFowardToFeisty doc some point as well
[03:08] <poningru> brb
[03:16] <Burgundavia> ok, lots of urls on gobby to write about
[03:18] <poningru> ooh indeed
[03:34] <nixternal> how about throwing in a little blurb about how microsoft says every linux user owes them money for their intellectual property
[03:36] <elkbuntu> do we really want to pollute our lovely UWN with stallman
[03:43] <poningru> ...
[03:43] <poningru> stallman?
[03:43] <poningru> you mean balmer
[03:43] <nixternal> wth
[03:44] <nixternal> stallman is the gnufather
[03:44] <nixternal> he has worked harder than anyone towards software freedom, even though he can be rather barbaric in some of his attmpts...i am understanding him more and more each day
[03:45] <elkbuntu> right
[03:45] <elkbuntu> i was reading something about stallman when you mentioned the ballmer bullshit
[03:45] <nixternal> hehe
[03:45] <elkbuntu> my brain is baked the the consistancy of a custard tart at the moment
[03:45] <nixternal> i think mako sells FSF/GNU better than stallman does
[03:45] <poningru> mmm custard tart
[03:46] <nixternal> omg custard tart!
[03:47] <Burgundavia> mako is actually sane
[03:47] <nixternal> hehe ya
[03:47] <nixternal> but if he hangs around stallman anymore, he might lose that
[03:47] <Burgundavia> nah
[03:47] <Burgundavia> mako understands how to communicate to non-geeks
[03:47] <nixternal> very true
[03:48] <nixternal> stallman has the right ideas, just carries them out the wrong way
[03:48] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: stop procrastinating, start editing
[03:48] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, im not procrastinating
[03:48] <nixternal> hahaha
[03:49] <Burgundavia> not editing UWN == procrastinating
[03:49] <elkbuntu> im unblocking my blog so i can check for comments
[03:58] <elkbuntu> ... are we back on poningru's gobby?
[04:04] <Burgundavia> yes
[04:04] <Burgundavia> 22
[04:10] <Burgundavia> poningru: those USNs, only 12-18th are displayed
[04:14] <Burgundavia> grabbing dinner, so might in and out
[04:17] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, was https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-November/000782.html supposed to be about the bosnian loco or the completely unrelated previous message in the thread
[04:17] <Burgundavia> loco team
[04:18] <elkbuntu> i might mention the youth thing, in addition?
[04:18] <elkbuntu> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-November/000781.html
[04:18] <elkbuntu> as an announcement.. maybe
[04:19] <elkbuntu> i guess there's other issues it can be left for
[04:21] <Burgundavia> sure
[04:56] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, news done :)
[04:56] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: thanks
[04:57] <Burgundavia> can you make each news item a seperate heading?
[04:57] <elkbuntu> sure
[04:58] <Burgundavia> can you dive into the "in the press" section next?
[04:59] <elkbuntu> k
[05:01] <elkbuntu> hmmm maybe i should have looked at the list before agreeing :
[05:02] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, am i leaving your one-line comments in?
[05:03] <elkbuntu> s/one/half/
[05:03] <Burgundavia> those are not my comments
[05:03] <elkbuntu> the articles need more than what is there, so i'll beef a bit
[05:08] <elkbuntu> poningru, see if you can figure out how to put more than half a line next to the openaddict review tihng
[05:08] <poningru> openaddict?
[05:09] <poningru> ah ok
[05:09] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, are we doing headings for each of the news stories or not?
[05:09] <elkbuntu> s/news/press/
[05:09] <Burgundavia> nope, no need to
[05:10] <poningru> oh...
[05:11] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: seeing as you appear to have some free time now
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Small amount, if I can multitask
[05:12] <Burgundavia> sure
[05:12] <Burgundavia> can you cleanup the new versions from Debian?
[05:13] <Burgundavia> I need to do the rest of the feisty changes
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> The string of "Accepted"s we go you mean?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> *got
[05:13] <poningru> Burgundavia: can you look through that cookie summary
[05:13] <poningru> see if thats how big you want it
[05:13] <poningru> should it go bigger?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> IP?
[05:14] <Burgundavia> perfect
[05:14] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: see the 22 page on the wiki
[05:15] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, poningru's
[05:15] <elkbuntu> (look at his hostmask)
[05:16] <Burgundavia> for the record, I still have 140 emails from feisty-changes to go through
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> Jeepers.  My dad really needs a lesson in e-mail subject line writing.
[05:18] <poningru> waah?
[05:18] <poningru> oh yeah
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Do you have something in particular in mind for "cleaning up" this list?
[05:20] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: make certain we only list the upstream version number
[05:20] <Burgundavia> so X.X-Y <-- the Y is the debian version
[05:21] <Burgundavia> have it appname XX - description and/or url
[05:21] <Burgundavia> and put a star with a space on either side at the beginning of each line
[05:22] <poningru> do we wanna do the art-work article?
[05:22] <poningru> someone else do that
[05:22] <poningru> also someone who can speak dutch do https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-November/009381.html
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> Any reason some of these are indented an extra space or two?
[05:24] <Burgundavia> simply because of copying errors
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> Thought so, since I'm pretty sure the wiki ignores that anyway
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> There's a youtube dl app?  Cool
[05:31] <poningru> tonyyarusso: there is a youtube download firefox extension
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> I should get that
[05:33] <poningru> videodownloader
[05:33] <poningru> https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2390/
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> ty
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> What's a version number of 1.0.1.dsfg-1 mean?
[05:37] <Burgundavia> 1.0.1 upstream
[05:37] <Burgundavia> new tarball, because of non-free elements
[05:37] <Burgundavia> first debian version
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> ah
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> I knew the -1 part, but not dsfg
[06:00] <Burgundavia> can somebody write little pieces on those two mailing list posts in Feisty changes?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> If something has part of the version # in the app name, do I keep it there?
[06:03] <Burgundavia> context?
[06:05] <elkbuntu> poningru, im guessing you're gone and gotten busy, so i'm taking over your section :
[06:06] <poningru> is cool
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: lsb-pkgchk3 3.0.3, mediawiki1.7 1.7.1
[06:08] <Burgundavia> right
[06:08] <Burgundavia> leave them
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[06:13] <poningru> elkbuntu: /me will start the spell checking
[06:16] <Burgundavia> hey Madpilot
[06:17] <Madpilot> hi
[06:17] <elkbuntu> someone find a dutchman for the dutch thingie and the press is done
[06:17] <elkbuntu> afk
[06:21] <Madpilot> hunting dutchmen is -marketing's latest hobby?
[06:22] <poningru> elkbuntu++
[06:22] <poningru> bwhahaha
[06:23] <Burgundavia> asked in -nl
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Someone's thinking - weird
[06:26] <poningru> uh...
[06:27] <poningru> we are discouraging easyubuntu?
[06:27] <poningru> or simple mistake?
[06:27] <Burgundavia> where?
[06:28] <poningru> just changed it
[06:28] <poningru> Another review has been published at http://www.openaddict.com/page.php?26 This review is of Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell XPS M170 Laptop. The review is in-depth and has a slightly more technical format than the one above. The review also advocates the Use of EasyUbuntu, usage of which is encouraged over Automatix.
[06:28] <poningru> it was
[06:29] <poningru> Another review has been published at http://www.openaddict.com/page.php?26 This review is of Ubuntu 6.10 on a Dell XPS M170 Laptop. The review is in-depth and has a slightly more technical format than the one above. The review also advocates the Use of EasyUbuntu, which again, we discourage.
[06:29] <Burgundavia> we discourage both
[06:30] <poningru> we do?
[06:30] <poningru> why?
[06:30] <Burgundavia> they both duplicate existing functionality within Ubuntu are known to cause issues
[06:31] <poningru> obviously re: former charge.. the point is to make it more accesible for users, re: former didnt know easyubuntu caused issues
[06:31] <poningru> err latter
[06:32] <Burgundavia> "we discourage both, although EasyUbuntu is less likely to cause issues than Automatix"
[06:34] <poningru> k
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> Okay, there are 7 imports from Debian that don't have a URL/description still, but I got the versions and formatting done.  Could someone take care of that?  (I should get back to my electronics assignment)
[06:36] <Burgundavia> ok, will do
[06:36] <Burgundavia> thanks tonyyarusso
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> yw
[06:36] <poningru> ready to go then
[06:36] <Burgundavia> about 75 left in my inbox to process
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> (Ubuntufy, poningru?)
[06:36] <poningru> :)
[06:36] <poningru> oh
[06:37] <poningru> Burgundavia: also we need the dutch translation thing
[06:37] <Burgundavia> yep, but I will drop that from this week if needed
[06:37] <poningru> yeah true that
[06:40] <Burgundavia> poningru: can you write about those two urls I put in the Feisty section?
[06:40] <poningru> looking
[06:45] <Burgundavia> poningru: that isn't really breaking from convention
[06:45] <poningru> k
[06:53] <Burgundavia> ah, crap, missed this weeks LWN
[06:54] <poningru> LWN?
[06:54] <Burgundavia> linux weekly news
[06:54] <poningru> you help write that too?
[06:54] <poningru> isnt that paid?
[06:55] <poningru> can someone run a quick spell check/grammar check on the stuff I wrote
[06:55] <Burgundavia> no, but I try and make it so that the UWN hits this weeks
[06:56] <Burgundavia> poningru: got it
[06:57] <poningru> sweet
[06:58] <imbrandon> k
[06:58] <imbrandon> Burgundavia: gobby.ubuntu.com ?
[06:58] <Burgundavia> nah, poningru's server
[06:58] <Burgundavia>  /whois poningru for the ip
[06:58] <imbrandon> k
[06:59] <poningru> yeah I had no idea how to write the bling para
[06:59] <imbrandon> session pass ?
[07:00] <imbrandon> poningru / Burgundavia ^
[07:00] <poningru> sorry
[07:00] <poningru> ufl@ftw
[07:01] <imbrandon> we're working on 22 right ? heheh , i get in this so late each week :)
[07:02] <poningru> Burgundavia: why'd you quit?
[07:03] <poningru> oh
[07:03] <Burgundavia_> grumble
[07:03] <Burgundavia_> machine hardlocked
[07:03] <imbrandon> ouch
[07:04] <imbrandon> hrm Burgundavia_ looking back really only kde 3.5.5a got uploaded
[07:05] <imbrandon> the rest was all small bug fixes
[07:05] <Burgundavia_> no, I have a bunch of kde-related apps
[07:05] <Burgundavia_> konversation, etc.
[07:05] <imbrandon> those are all sync'd
[07:05] <Burgundavia_> sync'd still gets talkeda bout
[07:05] <imbrandon> ahh ok
[07:06] <poningru> :)
[07:06] <poningru> we nitpick
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> I'm still confused about this "Desktop Bling" stuff - I have an ATI card - what will happen for me?
[07:09] <poningru> no clue... alteast mathewgarrett doesnt know
[07:10] <poningru> Burgundavia_: where were you going with that bling?
[07:11] <Burgundavia_> out back, to shoot it
[07:11] <elkbuntu> poningru, re easyubuntu and automatix... we frown on both equally, for diplomatic reasons that are completely lost on the automatix crowd anyway
[07:11] <poningru> err the latter of which is...
[07:11] <poningru> hmm
[07:11] <poningru> ROFL
[07:11] <poningru> I like mine well done
[07:12] <elkbuntu> yeah, if i find half-baked bling on my plate, i will not be happy
[07:13] <poningru> yeah make sure to use the AIGLX sauce
[07:13] <poningru> that old XGL sauce just doesnt cut it anymore
[07:13] <Burgundavia_> too odd a taste
[07:14] <poningru> indeed
[07:15] <imbrandon> because compize was arround first , is stable(er) and  someone cared enough to package it properly :)
[07:15] <Burgundavia_> because compiz is only mild crack and beryl is full on ragging not-coming-back-from-this-trip crack
[07:15] <Burgundavia_> raging, rather
[07:15] <imbrandon> hahaha exactly
[07:15] <imbrandon> i was trying to say it diplomaticly
[07:15] <imbrandon> but Burgundavia_ hit the nail on the head
[07:16] <elkbuntu> you only have to meet quinn storm in person to understand what happened
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> imbrandon: Is that a final decision, or a how things stand now at the initial sync stage decision?
[07:16] <Burgundavia_> why so?
[07:16] <Burgundavia_> tonyyarusso: it is a fight between the world and mark
[07:16] <imbrandon> you only have to ask him a few simple questions "why did you fork compiz" in the BoF to see why also
[07:16] <Burgundavia_> the rest of the dev team is wants compiz, at the most
[07:16] <elkbuntu> he... err.. she is... an interesting character
[07:17] <poningru> rofl
[07:17] <Burgundavia_> and given they upload to Ubuntu...
[07:17] <Burgundavia_> so basically, the dev team is trying to do and end run around Mark by putting in compiz first and seeing if it sticks
[07:18] <imbrandon> tonyyarusso: nothing i say is "official" but i was in the room when the decisions were being made and i can assure you it will be a cold day in hell when beryl is default in feisty
[07:18] <imbrandon> Burgundavia_: compiz was in ubuntu before beryl forked
[07:18] <Burgundavia_> imbrandon: yes, but the compiz was mostly beryl for a while
[07:19] <imbrandon> Burgundavia: true, thats when there was only one crack
[07:19] <elkbuntu> and i think we should drop this here...
[07:19] <elkbuntu> before we say bad things
[07:19] <imbrandon> but still its not the dev's trying to go arround mark, i think we finaly convinced him at UDS how crackfull it was, and how he made a technical decision without looking at the technical end
[07:20] <imbrandon> but anyhow , its all crack and needs to die basicly imho untill it can be proven to work reliably for more than a week on 4 systems
[07:20] <Burgundavia> I think this whole binary driver thing is going to die as well
[07:20] <imbrandon> tonyyarusso: :)
[07:21] <imbrandon> Burgundavia: yea i think so too, i can only hope on that one
[07:21] <poningru> Burgundavia: sweet
[07:21] <Burgundavia> I expect the reason that AcceleratedX has not been approved is because mdz is having a raging battle with Mark right now
[07:21] <imbrandon> Burgundavia: yea
[07:21] <imbrandon> mdz and scott both
[07:22] <elkbuntu> and anyone with a clue in a position to do so
[07:22] <poningru> can someone check through the bling thing
[07:22] <imbrandon> hrm, i need to become a better writer, i cant think of any more kde hotness this week, i should start this brainstorm as soon as the old UWN is out each time
[07:23] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:23] <Burgundavia> the wiki page has been up for a week now
[07:23] <imbrandon> elkbuntu / Burgundavia , mind proofing 41 , while i dig some more kubuntu stuff up
[07:23] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: can you do that? few more bits of uploads
[07:23] <elkbuntu> already on it
[07:25] <imbrandon> hehe
[07:25] <imbrandon> i always try to use green, my fav color ( just not that shade )
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> I need to pick a good color and stick with it - I'm a different one every time
[07:26] <poningru> hehe
[07:26] <poningru> your client should remember
[07:26] <Burgundavia> I am almost always the light blue
[07:26] <imbrandon> looks purple here, might be my mopnitor
[07:26] <imbrandon> monitor*
[07:27] <Burgundavia> must be that KDE crack :)
[07:27] <elkbuntu> and i seem to go pink...
[07:28] <poningru> hehe /me is always orange
[07:28] <elkbuntu> one of the first gobby sessions, it was literally the boys all in blues, and me in pink :-/
[07:29] <poningru> rofl
[07:29] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, remember that?
[07:30] <Burgundavia> not really
[07:30] <Burgundavia> my memory is a seive
[07:30] <elkbuntu> you pointed it out, i hadnt noticed it until you said it either
[07:30] <elkbuntu> aaaaanyway
[07:31] <poningru> ...
[07:31] <poningru> removing dutch thingy
[07:31] <poningru> objections?
[07:31] <elkbuntu> leave it until we know if we can find a translator
[07:31] <Burgundavia> poningru: got me a dutch speaker
[07:32] <poningru> blargh?
[07:32] <Burgundavia> he is incoming
[07:32] <Madpilot> still hunting Dutchmen?
[07:32] <poningru> Madpilot: no dude we were hunting bling
[07:32] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: you really don't read your own loco teams channel, do you?
[07:32] <Burgundavia> and he arrives
[07:32] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, I just got back from being afk, so no, I haven't
[07:32] <poningru> dutchmen were coming for dinner
[07:32] <Burgundavia> hey matjan
[07:32] <poningru> *** Dutch translation assistance needed*** https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-November/009381.html
[07:33] <matjan> hey
[07:33] <elkbuntu> make us a lovely story and we'll.. um.. shower you with huggles!
[07:35] <matjan> elkbuntu, you were talking to me?
[07:35] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: you still proofing?'
[07:35] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, i'll be back to it in a sec
[07:35] <Burgundavia> ok
[07:36] <matjan> ahhh.. JanC
[07:36] <matjan> the usual suspects
[07:38] <Burgundavia> can somebody write that upcoming events article?
[07:38] <matjan> Burgundavia, so what needs translation?
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> matjan: See the URL poningru posted
[07:39] <Burgundavia> what does the new article say?
[07:39] <Burgundavia> anything different from the mail?
[07:40] <matjan> you mean the first link in JanC's post?
[07:40] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:40] <matjan> let me check
[07:41] <Burgundavia> anybody missing from the credits?
[07:42] <matjan> what is translated in the JanC's post is only the first paragraph of that article
[07:42] <elkbuntu> matjan, we would like the whole article :)
[07:43] <matjan> ok, before when?
[07:43] <matjan> and will someone else proofread?
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> Is our translator in the credits?
[07:43] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, when are you sending this edition forth?
[07:44] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: in an hour
[07:44] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: once he tells me his full name
[07:44] <elkbuntu> matjan, can you do it in an hour?
[07:44] <Burgundavia> matjan: we just need the gist, to write a short summary
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> I'm amused by the English spelling debate we seem to have on line 29
[07:45] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, has it been changed again?
[07:46] <Burgundavia> can anybody make heads or tails of the post sent to the marketing list?
[07:46] <Burgundavia> the mint and pclinuxos one?
[07:46] <Burgundavia> s/?//
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: It's at z now
[07:46] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: UCK is z
[07:46] <matjan> elkbuntu, it is already 1.50aqm here, and i am also working on some other stuff...
[07:46] <Burgundavia> so we now have one of each
[07:47] <Burgundavia> matjan: ok, quick summary, do the rest of the paragraphs change anything from the first one?
[07:47] <elkbuntu> are you meaning in 'customise'
[07:47] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: No idea - first off, it's at #51
[07:48] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:48] <Burgundavia> mint has hit #1, but I don't expect that to last
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> I think this person missed the point that "Linux is not Windows"
[07:49] <matjan> Burgundavia, the second paragrah describes how the software was selected, that thre are no server apps, and there is a windoeze and a linux version (linux being breezy)
[07:50] <Burgundavia> ah, ok
[07:50] <Burgundavia> that is enough for us, thanks
[07:51] <Burgundavia> I see only proofreading after that. Anybody else?
[07:51] <Burgundavia> matjan: what is your full name? I need it for the credits
[07:52] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, i've sent my eyes over it, but someone needs to go over again focussing on the pink stuff.. and hopefully not americanise everything
[07:52] <Burgundavia> heh
[07:52] <matjan> Burgundavia, third paragraph describes in a bit more detail what 3 sorts of software that are present: 1. educational, 2. general use (office apps etc.), 3. open educational tools (information sharing, etc)
[07:53] <matjan> Burgundavia, matty janssen
[07:53] <Burgundavia> perfect
[07:54] <poningru> elkbuntu: hehe that z was me :p
[07:54] <elkbuntu> poningru, listen to the canadian and the australian, use s :
[07:54] <Burgundavia> 'ecept canada uses z
[07:55] <poningru> indeed
[07:55] <elkbuntu> but you changed it back
[07:55] <poningru> meh
[07:55] <poningru> brits use s
[07:55] <matjan> Burgundavia, ok, cool
[07:55] <elkbuntu> poningru, we write the newsletter in english, not american
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Wait, they do?  The ca spellchecking stuff says s, so that's what I've been trying to adapt to.
[07:56] <poningru> blargh?
[07:56] <poningru> american english is english
[07:56] <poningru> :p
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Sorry, as an American, I'm agreeing with the other folks.  Might as well do it the way the entire planet but us do.
[07:57] <elkbuntu> poningru, no.. american english is american
[07:57] <poningru> oh no I was agreeing with them also
[07:57] <poningru> I was just 'ruffling my feathers'
[07:57] <elkbuntu> the same as australian english is australian.
[07:58] <poningru> i...c
[07:58] <Burgundavia> ok, final spell check everybody
[08:03] <Burgundavia> anybody still editing?
[08:03] <poningru> reading
[08:03] <poningru> oh yeah its good
[08:04] <Burgundavia> ok, I need to do some dishes, so I will be back in 10 or so
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Not I, said the dinosaur
[08:04] <poningru> yuhuh you have to do the dishes
[08:09] <poningru> nn guys
[08:11] <matjan> Burgundavia, where is the weekly news available?
[08:12] <elkbuntu> matjan, always on the wiki, and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-news/
[08:13] <matjan> elkbuntu, ok, thanks
[08:16] <Burgundavia> copying back to the wiki. Any objections?
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> nope
[08:18] <Burgundavia> you realize we right the largest and most reguarly published distro weekly news?
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> s/right/write/
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> I didn't know that
[08:18] <Burgundavia> right
[08:18] <Burgundavia> DWN is dead
[08:18] <Burgundavia> GWN is intermittent
[08:19] <Burgundavia> FWN is pretty short
[08:19] <elkbuntu> we rock
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> as usual
[08:21] <Burgundavia> and away
[08:25] <Burgundavia> can somebody write a short piece for the fridge?
[08:25] <Burgundavia> I can post it if somebody writes up something
[08:25] <matjan> Burgundavia, if you need some more dutch to english translation for the UWN, just let me know...
[08:25] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: what are you looking for?
[08:25] <Burgundavia> matjan: cool, tahnks
[08:26] <Burgundavia> lotusleaf: look at previous articles for the fridge
[08:26] <matjan> Burgundavia, cool to see my name listed there ;)
[08:26] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: ? followup of same content?
[08:26] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, is the piece for the fridge allowed to laugh at the other *WNs?
[08:26] <Burgundavia> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/631
[08:26] <lotusleaf> thx
[08:26] <Burgundavia> something similar to that
[08:26] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: no
[08:27] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, awww.. you ruin all the fun
[08:27] <Burgundavia> and you want to violate the CoC
[08:27] <elkbuntu> and you think i was at any point serious... shame
[08:27] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: just a summary?
[08:28] <Burgundavia> yep, just like that
[08:28] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: no context in irc
[08:28] <lotusleaf> typo!: "Go some news?"
[08:28] <lotusleaf> :)
[08:29] <Burgundavia> where?
[08:29] <lotusleaf> last part of above link u referenced
[08:30] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, you ought to know me better by now though
[08:30] <Burgundavia> I should
[08:30] <Burgundavia> right
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> .....
[08:31] <cafuego> re Burgundavia's request in #ubuntu-nl :-)
[08:31] <Burgundavia> cafuego: welcome. Our need for a translator has passed, due to the excellent efforts of matjan
[08:32] <cafuego> Cool. I was just saying I'd love to, but have no time for a few days to come
[08:33] <Burgundavia> thanks for coming by
[08:33] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, has anyone put a call over the loco-contacts list yet?
[08:33] <Burgundavia> I am sure we can rope you into something
[08:34] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: for which?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> general translations?
[08:34] <cafuego> matjan: purrima :-)
[08:34] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, encouraging locos to send stuff to us
[08:34] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: can you?
[08:34] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, was just thinking about it, yeah
[08:36] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, i'll include a call for translations as well
[08:36] <Burgundavia> mention that we are looking at translations right now
[08:37] <elkbuntu> yep
[08:37] <lotusleaf> did anyone ever followup on the attempt to get the roughtcut poster mentioned on boingboing?
[08:37] <Burgundavia> no idea
[08:38] <Burgundavia> lotusleaf: how you doing?
[08:38] <lotusleaf> I think it was poningru who was emailing people
[08:38] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: I haven't started on the summary, not sure what to base it on this time, is there a list of topics you'd like referenced as per the list in the fridge for last time?
[08:39] <Burgundavia> look at UWN 23, grab some interesting topics and summarise it
[08:39] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: k thx! :)
[08:39] <Burgundavia> no worries
[08:41] <Burgundavia> poningru: when you wake up, can you cleanup the gobby session?
[08:42] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: linky to wip for #23? @ gobby loc?
[08:42] <Burgundavia> uwn 23 is now live
[08:42] <Burgundavia> on the wii
[08:42] <Burgundavia> wiki
[08:42] <lotusleaf> k thx
[08:43] <lotusleaf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue23 ??
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> yes
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> wait...
[08:44] <elkbuntu> http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonoBacon/
[08:45] <Burgundavia> hmm, forgot about that
[08:45] <Burgundavia> next week
[08:45] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: where do I take a summary from, it looks like it's blank in the above url I referenced
[08:45] <Burgundavia> lotusleaf: need to write it
[08:45] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, push it to the fridge too
[08:45] <Burgundavia> sorry , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue22
[08:45] <lotusleaf> ah! :) thank you
[08:45] <lotusleaf> so pull summary from #22 items?
[08:46] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:46] <lotusleaf> k thx
[08:46] <Burgundavia> no worries
[08:47] <lotusleaf> so you post summaries of UWN 3 days or so following the release #?
[08:47] <Burgundavia> no, asap
[08:48] <Burgundavia> challenge is finding an editor
[08:48] <lotusleaf> ah
[08:48] <lotusleaf> lemmie see what I can slap together
[08:48] <Burgundavia> mostly I have been lazy and have not yet sorted my editing account
[08:49] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: hey, man, the more ppl who can make your work load lighter, the better, right? :)
[08:49] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> Uh oh...
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> That upgrade did not go well
[08:52] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, where should i get them to send info to? -marketing list or....?
[08:53] <Burgundavia> marketing list is good
[08:54] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LookingFowardAtFeisty <-- next big project
[08:54] <Burgundavia> feel free to start writing on this one
[08:54] <Burgundavia> what were the alpha releases in edgy called?
[08:55] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: will there be a UWN over the holidays?
[08:55] <Burgundavia> of course
[08:55] <lotusleaf> k thx
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Knots.....  Didn't you _write_ the Knot reviews?
[08:57] <Burgundavia> yes, yes I did
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> Wow....
[08:57] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: are links within the fridge <a href=" "> blah </a> ?
[08:57] <Burgundavia> afaik, yes
[08:57] <lotusleaf> or should I just write (link) for you to include link
[08:57] <lotusleaf> k thx
[08:58] <Burgundavia> yep
[09:03] <lotusleaf> "Feisty on the Schedule" or should it be "Feisty on Schedule" ?
[09:03] <Burgundavia> the latter
[09:04] <lotusleaf> right, you may want to fix that title on first item on #22 under GCN
[09:04] <Burgundavia> can you change it?
[09:04] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: I've never edited the wiki before, do I need an account or just launchpad?
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> Burgundavia: Minor punctuation issues.
[09:05] <Burgundavia> just lp
[09:05] <lotusleaf> k thx
[09:05] <Burgundavia> tonyyarusso: fix it up
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Will do - lotusleaf, let me know when you're done so I don't mess up your changes
[09:05] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: k thx just gimmie a few mins, first time touching the wiki :)
[09:08] <lotusleaf> ack.. have to set default prefs.. :P
[09:08] <Burgundavia> no you dont
[09:08] <Burgundavia> ignore that
[09:09] <lotusleaf> k
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> Oh shoot.  I made a formatting booboo on the USNs too.
[09:11] <Burgundavia> that you did
[09:11] <Burgundavia> luckily that only shows up on the wiki, not on the email
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> Yeah really.
[09:13] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: correction made, proceed :)
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> lotusleaf: Grazie
[09:15] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: does it show IP in public view as well for user?
[09:15] <Burgundavia> IP?
[09:15] <lotusleaf> IP address
[09:15] <Burgundavia> public view for user? sorry, slowing down here
[09:15] <lotusleaf> in last edited section date time user
[09:15] <lotusleaf> when I mouse over the username it shows IP
[09:16] <Burgundavia> hmm, no idea
[09:17] <lotusleaf> perhaps it's just for my current session or for logged in users
[09:17] <lotusleaf> k thx
[09:17] <Burgundavia> lotusleaf: email me your stuff
[09:17] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: modding the wiki took time away, I'll have to get back to that now for the summary, I'll paste bin it
[09:18] <Burgundavia> just email me, as I am going to sleep now
[09:18] <lotusleaf> going back to work on that summary now ;)
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> All better.
[09:21] <lotusleaf> yup, it shows ips public ;P
[09:21] <lotusleaf> hmm.. so it's not like wikipedia in that respect
[09:23] <lotusleaf> yup, mouseover usernames without logging in, all show up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue22?action=info
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> Well, at least now it show my IP instead of yours, and I really don't care
[09:24] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: it shows mine in the url I referenced above ^^^
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> so it does
[09:26] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: well, I do care cuz now it's g00gl3able. ;(
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> Bah, oh well
[09:29] <lotusleaf> indeed
[10:00] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: still awake? :)
[10:13] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: ping?
[10:13] <Madpilot> lotusleaf, pong - was just about to crash for the night
[10:13] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: roger that, just had a gfx editor question re: roughcut designs
[10:14] <Madpilot> hmm?
[10:14] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: what's the best editor to use to make cool banner designs?
[10:14] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: or nifty thumbnails for websites
[10:15] <Madpilot> probably the GIMP, if you just want to work with the existing images. Otherwise, Inkscape.
[10:15] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: k, thx, gonna check some tutorials, have a good one =)
[10:15] <Madpilot> np.
[10:16] <Madpilot> I will get that new banner for your website done by the end of this week, BTW.
[10:16] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: thx, no rush, even if it takes you a year or so ;)
[10:16] <Madpilot> no, you should have them by Saturday.
[10:17] <lotusleaf> =) Awesome, thx
[10:17] <Madpilot> np. Now, I need sleep. Work expects me to get up far to early.
[10:17] <Madpilot> like, before 11am. ;)
[10:17] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: ha, have a good one
[10:37] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: welcome back
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> :)
[10:37] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: well my first tiny go at the ubuntu wiki was painless enough, and a little fun ;)
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> lotusleaf: Good for you!
[10:37] <lotusleaf> (=
[10:38] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, have you made yourself a wikipage yet?
[10:38] <tonyyarusso> It's really not so bad for a while, and then you try to do something that should be simple, but is totally not intuitive - like unwikifying a NonWikiWord that it mistakenly assumes must be a WikiWord
[10:38] <elkbuntu> `` is your friend
[10:38] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: ya? :P
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> elkbuntu: So I learned, but seriously, that's a whacked punctuation.
[10:39] <elkbuntu> tonyyarusso, every wiki has it's quirks
[10:39] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: `` ? I see I have much to learn. About the only wiki I've edited before now was Wikipedia.
[10:39] <lotusleaf> tonyyarusso: I'll stick with the light stuff, then. =)
[10:39] <elkbuntu> lotusleaf, making yourself a wiki page is a good excuse to learn the wiki and experiment a bit, without imploding other people's work :)
[10:40] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: ha, no doubt, thanks ;)
[10:40] <lotusleaf> elkbuntu: does that include making an ascii lotus leaf picture?
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> If you want
[10:41] <lotusleaf> r0x0r
[10:41] <jenda> Learning the wiki is a good excuse to implode other peoples work, unless you start with making yourself a wiki page.
[10:41] <jenda> }:->
[10:41] <lotusleaf> ?!?! <-- floats above head
[10:41] <lotusleaf> how about an #ubuntu-marketing-offtopic ? :)
[10:42] <jenda> hehe :) please no. We have too many channels already.
[10:42] <lotusleaf> jenda: d'oh, too late. j/k ;)
[10:42] <lotusleaf> I have many an offtopic yet marketing related comment or question, I just don't know where to put it
[10:47] <jenda> if it's marketing related, it's not offopic.
[11:57] <danbuch929> I've already submitted a more detailed message via the mailing list about this, but for all who are interested, the current version of the DIY Marketing website is ready for a round of criticism: http://diy.devubuntu.com/
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> woohoo
[12:04] <danbuch929> is that a vote of confidence?  :-)
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> I haven't looked yet, it's just cool that it exists
[12:08] <danbuch929> ah, good...  yes, I'm thrilled that it's moving along.  Jenda's been a wonderful mentor to this noob.
[12:09] <danbuch929> for those that use bzr, I've just pushed out a revision of all the sources, too
[12:14] <elkbuntu> nice
[02:12] <jenda> woo :)
[02:28] <lotusleaf> jenda: wee
[02:29] <lotusleaf> jenda: you around? I have a question re: wiki editing, very simple one
[02:29] <jenda> go on?
[02:30] <lotusleaf> jenda: thanks, I noticed some outdated information on a kubuntu wiki and I thought about correcting it, should I dive right in or msg a kubuntu person? I tried imbrandon but he's afk it seems. I'm new to editing *buntu wikis and wondered if the approach should be 'ask first' or dive right in?
[02:31] <jenda> dive right in.
[02:31] <lotusleaf> jenda: roger that, thx =)
[02:31] <lotusleaf> jenda: sell all your posters?
[02:31] <jenda> The kubuntu people will be notified automatically, and if you screw up, you're in trouble :)
[02:31] <lotusleaf> hahaha :)
[02:31] <jenda> however, the wiki can easily be reverted, so no biggie.
[02:31] <lotusleaf> cool =) thx for the extra info
[02:31] <jenda> 178 posters left.
[02:32] <lotusleaf> cool, someone should change the # on the ubuntuforums green header info thing
[02:32] <lotusleaf> that would drive up demand
[02:32] <lotusleaf> :)
[02:32] <lotusleaf> only ### remaining!
[02:32] <jenda> hhe :)
[02:32] <lotusleaf> 8)
[02:32] <jenda> I have that in the thread, but I can't bother them admins each time someone buys :)
[02:33] <jenda> I'll get the number changed once we are under 100
[02:33] <lotusleaf> jenda: ha, true. :) have you thought about setting up some type of official ubuntu marketing on-line store?
[02:33] <lotusleaf> jenda: you know, like cafepress but done differently?
[02:33] <jenda> that's kind-of the diy site
[02:33] <lotusleaf> ah! :)
[02:33] <jenda> but it will also offer downloads.
[02:33] <lotusleaf> awesome
[02:33] <jenda> And the entire point is that the material is done _unofficially_
[02:34] <lotusleaf> ya
[02:34] <lotusleaf> I'd like to see an ubuntu logo hoola hoop :)
[02:34] <jenda> as in, it's the manufacturer himself who manages all the quality control and finances, and thus eliminates the need for a QA team and a financial apparatus, reducing the strain on Ubuntu
[02:34] <jenda> and throwing it on the producer...
[02:34] <lotusleaf> ah, very true
[02:34] <jenda> ...who is me, currently :/
[02:35] <lotusleaf> jenda: do you ever take a vacation? :)
[02:35] <jenda> No :)
[02:35] <lotusleaf> :-)
[02:35] <jenda> But I try to study in the meantime.
[02:35] <lotusleaf> that's good
[02:36] <lotusleaf> thanks again for the help
[02:36] <jenda> yw :)
[05:02] <poningru> waah
[05:03] <lotusleaf> poningru: what seems to be the problem?
[05:04] <poningru> rofl
[05:04] <poningru> actually that was another form of wtf
[05:04] <poningru> or what?
[05:05] <lotusleaf> poningru: no boingboing magic :(
[05:05] <lotusleaf> poningru: but hey, news about a 90 year old blogger, cool! :P
[05:06] <poningru> I know :(
[05:06] <lotusleaf> oh well, we tried =)
[05:07] <lotusleaf> I wonder if Wil Wheaton uses Ubuntu
[05:10] <poningru> no I am gonna try again
[05:10] <poningru> brb
[05:11] <lotusleaf> yeah? cool!
[07:13] <dr_nick> hi everybody!
[07:13] <lotusleaf> what's up doc?
[07:14] <tsmithe> that's all wrong
[07:14] <tsmithe> you're supposed hi say "hi dr. nick"
[07:14] <tsmithe> do you not watch the simpsons?!
[07:14] <lotusleaf> tomorrow on #ubuntu-drama, dr_nick and disco stu trade chewing gum as the sun sets
[07:15] <lotusleaf> I used to watch simpsons, especially in #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[07:15] <tsmithe> what?
[07:16] <lotusleaf> tsmithe: this channel is logged, I don't want to fill it with unrelated offtopic ;)
[07:16] <tsmithe> ok
[07:16] <tsmithe> sorry jenda
[10:47] <tsmithe> @lart jenda for the hell of it
[10:47] <tsmithe> damn
[10:47] <tsmithe> no Ubugtu
[10:48] <elkbuntu> for a very good reason
[10:59] <poningru> blargh
[11:03] <tsmithe> elkbuntu, yes... "good"... "reason"...
[11:03] <tsmithe> indeed...
[11:03] <tsmithe> i'm sure...
[11:03] <tsmithe> "good"
[11:05] <tsmithe> bah
[11:09] <poningru> blargh?
[11:09] <poningru> you know we should get this press team thing started up
[11:09] <poningru> I mean granted ceo is the biggest marketing person for a company
[11:10] <poningru> but still sabdfl shouldnt have to do all the work...
[11:10] <elkbuntu> poningru, i think it's a bit more complicated than that
[11:10] <poningru> well yeah
[11:10] <poningru> I wanted to start with local press
[11:11] <tsmithe> press team
[11:11] <tsmithe> count me
[11:11] <poningru> in?
[11:11] <tsmithe> in
[11:11] <poningru> :p
[11:11] <tsmithe> yes in
[11:11] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/PressTeam
[11:12] <poningru> we need to change mathew as lead
[11:12] <poningru> if no one is willing to step up
[11:12] <poningru> I am willing to do it
[11:12] <tsmithe> i am also... but i have no time
[11:12] <tsmithe> so i am a bad choice
[11:12] <poningru> the problem is
[11:12] <tsmithe> don't pick me
[11:12] <tsmithe> yes, poningru
[11:13] <poningru> I will be absent sometimes I will be absent for like 2 weeks or so
[11:13] <poningru> due to tests/papers
[11:13] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/PressTeam/EPK
[11:13] <poningru> that is what I wanted to push for edgy
[11:13] <tsmithe> same
[11:13] <tsmithe> o
[11:13] <tsmithe> k
[11:13] <poningru> but I never got to it
[11:14] <poningru> and so I am thinking lets do that for Feisty
[11:14] <tsmithe> i can write a "press release" with ease
[11:15] <poningru> yeah I think canonical writes the press releases
[11:15] <tsmithe> damn
[11:15] <tsmithe> so what's that page in aid of
[11:15] <poningru> the problem is getting them to the local pres
[11:15] <poningru> s
[11:15] <tsmithe> i'd write my own
[11:15] <poningru> yeah... except we have to talk to canonical about this
[11:15] <tsmithe> every loco team should have a press-release-dude who sends out these to the local press
[11:15] <poningru> Burgwork^^
[11:16] <tsmithe> even if it's just the standard canonical (pun, eh!) release
[11:16] <poningru> err that should have been for jono except he isnt here
[11:16] <Burgwork> right
[11:16] <poningru> right translation etc. for the local press
[11:16] <Burgwork> the press team should go a collect somebody from each loco to help them get into the local press
[11:17] <tsmithe> that's what i said
[11:18] <tsmithe> any other points, any one?
[11:18] <tsmithe> this should have a spec
[11:18] <poningru> when is loco team meeting?
[11:18] <Burgwork> you need to go to each loco team and ask them
[11:18] <tsmithe> not during school heures hopefully
[11:20] <tsmithe> indeed
[11:21] <poningru> tsmithe: can you add howto write your own press release onto that page?
[11:21] <poningru> the EPK
[11:21] <tsmithe> poningru, i will, maybe tomorrow
[11:21] <poningru> cool thanks
[11:21] <tsmithe> gotta go to bed. do homework
[11:21] <tsmithe> etc
[11:21] <poningru> I will talk to jono or elkbuntu
[11:21] <poningru> true
[11:21] <poningru> where are you from?
[11:21] <tsmithe> kent
[11:22] <poningru> kent?
[11:22] <tsmithe> you should know where it is
[11:22] <tsmithe> i know where florida is
[11:22] <poningru> too many kents around dude
[11:22] <tsmithe> *the* kent
[11:22] <tsmithe> original
[11:22] <poningru> like the one in UK?
[11:22] <elkbuntu> poningru, the guy has .uk hostmask
[11:22] <tsmithe> not like
[11:22] <poningru> or the one in US
[11:22] <poningru> oh...
[11:23] <tsmithe> there is only one kent
[11:23] <poningru> :(
[11:23] <poningru> hehe
[11:23] <poningru> there is a kent in the US
[11:23] <tsmithe> it's fickle
[11:23] <poningru> somewhere in northern US near the lakes iirc
[11:24] <poningru> anyway should we write up a spec for this?
[11:24] <tsmithe> yes
[11:25] <tsmithe> loco-press-releases?
[11:25] <poningru> yeah allows us to communicate with canonical much easier
[11:25] <poningru> sounds good
[11:25] <tsmithe> indeed
[11:25] <poningru> I will work on that today
[11:25] <tsmithe> it should have the contents of EPK on it?
[11:25] <poningru> hmm that was mostly written up to help people
[11:25] <poningru> the spec should have more than that
[11:25] <tsmithe> Indeed, but: Implementation
[11:25] <poningru> as in what we are trying to accomplish etc.
[11:26] <poningru> arr?
[11:26] <tsmithe> e-mail me the address of the spec
[11:26] <elkbuntu> poningru, how's your loco going?
[11:26] <poningru> k
[11:26] <poningru> elkbuntu: hehe
[11:28] <poningru> elkbuntu: would it be possible for you to talk to jono? I would... its just I have no clue how to contact him except through email
[11:28] <elkbuntu> talk to him about what?
[11:28] <poningru> the spec
[11:28] <poningru> err nm
[11:28] <poningru> I will email to the loco team
[11:28] <poningru> list
[11:29] <tsmithe> which loco team?
[11:29] <elkbuntu> tsmithe, loco-contacts@l.u.c
[11:29] <poningru> THE loco list
[11:29] <tsmithe> oh right
[11:29] <poningru> yeah
[11:29] <tsmithe> i better sign up to that list
[11:30] <poningru> hehe
[11:30] <poningru> yeah I will work on this tonight
[11:30] <tsmithe> tonight or today?
[11:30] <poningru> err its only 1730 here
[11:30] <tsmithe> ah... i dunno ;)
[11:30] <poningru> so toinght
[11:31] <poningru> err tonight
[11:31] <tsmithe> lol
[11:31] <poningru> ooh nice
[11:31] <tsmithe> how'd it go?
[11:31] <poningru> jenda: physical meeting? 0.o
[11:31] <tsmithe> sounds like it
[11:31] <tsmithe> to get back from...
[11:31] <elkbuntu> you people with tiny countries are so lucky
[11:31] <poningru> yeah
[11:31] <jenda> poningru: yes!
[11:31] <tsmithe> wow
[11:31] <jenda> there were...
[11:32] <jenda> an unbelievable..
[11:32] <jenda> 5 of us!!!
[11:32] <tsmithe> elkbuntu, is england tiny in your reckoning?
[11:32] <poningru> tsmithe: very
[11:32] <elkbuntu> tsmithe, yes
[11:32] <Burgwork> all you people have it easy
[11:32] <Burgwork> I have people seperated by 6000km
[11:32] <tsmithe> which people?
[11:32] <poningru> hah the US is frackin huge
[11:32] <poningru> rofl
[11:32] <tsmithe> yeah...
[11:32] <tsmithe> but for a place hundreds of times the size
[11:32] <tsmithe> it only has 5x the population
[11:32] <tsmithe> so england is more crowded
[11:32] <poningru> true
[11:33] <poningru> jenda: where was it?
[11:33] <poningru> which city?
[11:34] <jenda> poningru: you assume right
[11:34] <jenda> We don't have any other cities:)
[11:34] <poningru> hehe
[11:34] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, all due respect dude.. perth -- sydney isnt a whole lot better... the actual milage becomes a moot point when it takes more than a day to drive
[11:34] <jenda> In fact, Prague is the biggest village ;)
[11:34] <poningru> rofl
[11:34] <tsmithe> i live on a farm ;)
[11:34] <Burgwork> elkbuntu:  but most of your population is in one strip
[11:35] <elkbuntu> a doglegged one
[11:35] <tsmithe> meh
[11:35] <tsmithe> i'm off
[11:35] <elkbuntu> actually.. a dog leg with two knees
[11:35] <tsmithe> will help with loco-press-releases tomorrow
[11:36] <poningru> nn dude
[11:36] <tsmithe> coolio
[11:36] <poningru> Burgwork: look who's talking
[11:36] <poningru> canada is an entire strip
[11:36] <poningru> population of*
[11:36] <Burgwork> east coast of aussie is shorter than the canadian one
[11:37] <poningru> its a very wide strip but still...
[11:37] <poningru> hmm true
[11:37] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, adelaide is quite fruitful for us too, you know
[11:37] <poningru> hehe I have a friend in adelaide
[11:38] <poningru> originally from sydney
[11:38] <poningru> he runs plugindoc for mofo
[11:48] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, when this finally loads, it's probably about a third of our LoCo Population irc+list http://www.frappr.com/UbuntuAustralianTeam
[11:49] <jenda> elkbuntu: no forum?
[11:49] <elkbuntu> jenda, going through the debating about whether we need one
[11:49] <elkbuntu> jenda, we tend to speak the same language as ubuntuforums.org
[11:49] <jenda> indeed
[11:49] <jenda> you can request an english subforum there, though, if you want :)
[11:50] <jenda> Many english-speaking teams have.
[11:50] <elkbuntu> jenda, yes, but i am highly cautious about getting involved with ubuntuforums at the moment
[11:51] <poningru> yeah same here
[11:51] <poningru> I dont have good experience
[11:51] <poningru> with the admin
[11:51] <elkbuntu> poningru, for completely different reasons
[11:52] <elkbuntu> well.. mostly different
[11:52] <jenda> poningru: it's changed a lot :)
[11:52] <jenda> (ever since I'm staff)
[11:52] <poningru> woah
[11:52] <jenda> :-D
[11:52] <jenda> just kidding - I had little impact
[11:52] <poningru> cc just put up an office in brisbane
[11:53] <elkbuntu> poningru, ooh?
[11:53] <poningru> http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6159