[12:12] <d03boy> ya i just have to go downstairs to try it
[12:12] <FFForever> !info .deb | ffforever
[12:12] <ubotu> Package .deb does not exist in any distro I know
[12:12] <BluesKaj> !language
[12:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:12] <FFForever> ohhh sorry
[12:12] <FFForever> i will :)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Jucato: you around?\
[12:13] <Xal2> I feel offended by FFForever's use of inappropriate langauge.
[12:13] <Xal2> :(
[12:13] <intelikey> na Jucato's a square.
[12:13] <FFForever> how come there are no ops?
[12:13] <intelikey> :)
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hehe ok , no that I'm such goody 2 shoes myself but...
[12:13] <d03boy> whats the command to install a deb
[12:13] <gnomefreak> FFForever: why?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> d03boy: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:13] <d03boy> k
[12:13] <FFForever> j/w
[12:13] <Xal2> There are ops here.
[12:13] <gnomefreak> !deb
[12:13] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:14] <Xal2> They just aren't oped atm. That's my guess at least.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Xal2: right
[12:14] <FFForever> how do i install .debs from konsol?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> FFForever: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[12:14] <Xal2> That way you don't have people PMing the ops about all their personal problems :p
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Xal2: it doesnt stop it
[12:14] <LjL> heh
[12:15] <FFForever> are there ppl with power to kick here?
[12:15] <Xal2> of course
[12:15] <gnomefreak> FFForever: your working on it
[12:15] <FFForever> :(
[12:15] <gnomefreak> FFForever: join #kubuntu-offtopic if you are not here about support related topics
[12:18] <phillijw> hi its d03boy
[12:18] <phillijw> can you give me that link
[12:18] <gnomefreak> !deb
[12:18] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> that one phillijw
[12:18] <gnomefreak> not really a link though
[12:18] <intelikey> !repos
[12:18] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:19] <inkwell> messed up apt database.
[12:20] <intelikey> inkwell i think you messed up /etc/apt/sources.list  not the database.
[12:20] <nathan> how di unlock the pacage database
[12:21] <confusco> d03boy
[12:21] <confusco> just double click it
[12:21] <confusco> and wireless should start working
[12:21] <gnomefreak> nathan: its giving you an error where it says dpkg is locked is another process using it?
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> wasp_ems:  =)
[12:22] <nathan> yes
[12:22] <wasp_ems> lol
[12:22] <inkwell> yeah that
[12:22] <Xal2> what are canonical and commercial repos?
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> auto exw kai sto irc tou mad
[12:22] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, brother
[12:22] <wasp_ems> exeis dei thn tainia?
[12:22] <Xal2> nm, i'm lazy
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> den nomizw
[12:22] <nathan> i don't remember the command to unlock it
[12:22] <Xal2> don't answer my question :p
[12:22] <UnDeR|CoVeR> anyway edw den exei kai pollh voh8eia
[12:23] <wasp_ems> gia pes thn erwthsh
[12:23] <intelikey> Xal2 canonical is ubuntu HQ  and commerical are "non-free"
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Xal2: i dont remember what package are you looking for?
[12:23] <UnDeR|CoVeR> eipa pws na kanw install thn karta kai paparia
[12:23] <phillijw_> dumb irc
[12:23] <gnomefreak> UnDeR|CoVeR: english please
[12:23] <wasp_ems> mpes sto ubuntu
[12:23] <gnomefreak> wasp_ems: you too
[12:23] <wasp_ems> sorry
[12:23] <Xal2> I'm not looking for a package. I was just curious.
[12:23] <UnDeR|CoVeR> soz
[12:23] <nathan> dpkg something something
[12:23] <phillijw_> can someone get me that link that confusco gave me
[12:23] <Bubba_Gump> alderbaran?
[12:23] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, join #ubuntu
[12:23] <intelikey> Xal2 i only answered cause you said not to.
[12:23] <intelikey> :)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Xal2: you can check on ubuntu.com but i dont remember since there is only dapper repos
[12:23] <Xal2> haha
[12:23] <inkwell> where can i get a new list?
[12:23] <UnDeR|CoVeR> wasp_ems:  i have kubuntu
[12:23] <FFForever> do i have to have sendmail installed?
[12:24] <UnDeR|CoVeR> so i think its best here
[12:24] <wasp_ems> UnDeR|CoVeR, just join it
[12:24] <confusco> http://apt.ubuntu.org.tw/ubtw/bcm43xx-firmware/bcm43xx-firmware_1.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[12:24] <UnDeR|CoVeR> fu
[12:24] <confusco> just double click it
[12:24] <phillijw_> thnaks
[12:24] <confusco> and card should work
[12:24] <Xal2> Is there a free alternative to Cedega for playing Windows games? I haven't had much success with wine.
[12:24] <wasp_ems> finish
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Xal2: wine is about it.
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Xal2: for i in edgy,-updates,-security}; do echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $i main restricted multiverse universe"; done
[12:25] <inkwell> that was what?
[12:25] <inkwell> cool
[12:25] <h3sp4wn> Xal2: That will give you all you need to have in /etc/apt/sources.list everything else is just worthless comments
[12:25] <inkwell> source list... how do i fix it now?
[12:26] <intelikey> as root copy it to /etc/apt/
[12:26] <luca> inkwell: in the console type "sudo kate /etc/apt/source.list"
[12:26] <h3sp4wn> for i in edgy{,-updates,-security} (missed out the {
[12:27] <intelikey> luca i just dcc sent him a working copy.   if you'd like him to use it.
[12:27] <intelikey> luca we tried that last night but it seems inkwell is very newbish in linux.
[12:28] <luca> intelikey ok I will just watch then for now :)
[12:29] <wasp_ems> hello can anyone help with installing nvidia drivers?for use with beryl
[12:29] <KoluCCi> Does anybody know where could I set in Kubuntu Xinerama option, when the system starts X server?
[12:30] <KoluCCi> [servers] 
[12:30] <KoluCCi> 0=/usr/bin/X11/X vt7 -deferglyphs 16 +xinerama
[12:30] <KoluCCi> Like this, for example
[12:31] <KoluCCi> When using gdm it's places at: /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:31] <KoluCCi> What about Kubuntu's kdm?
[12:31] <intelikey> KoluCCi most likely /etc/init.d/kdm script.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> wasp_ems: ask in #ubuntu-xgl there is a guide there. and i believe it gives you how to install nvidia 9xxx
[12:31] <KoluCCi> intelikey: 10x. I'll try to find out there
[12:31] <wasp_ems> thanx
[12:31] <intelikey> KoluCCi ah there is a kdm.conf too
[12:31] <gnomefreak> KoluCCi: ~/.kde/something/something
[12:32] <Jucato> gnomefreak: don't believe intelikey. I'm triangular
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Jucato: lol
[12:32] <intelikey>  ls /etc/kde3/kdm/
[12:32] <Jucato> sorry, just got back
[12:32] <gnomefreak> i figured you went to bed. do you have tonios site off hand
[12:32] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[12:32] <Jucato> gnomefreak: um nope...
[12:32] <gnomefreak> crap
[12:33] <KoluCCi> intelikey: at /etc/kde3/kdm and /etc/init.d/kdm nothing like that I want
[12:33] <intelikey> the first is a dir the second a script. ^
[12:33] <KoluCCi> gnomefreak: As you see, there'are user-special options, which are used AFTER X has started....
[12:33] <intelikey> look in the dir.
[12:34] <dennister> hello everyone
[12:34] <intelikey>  kdm.options <--- that
[12:34] <Jucato> gnomefreak: http://ubuntu.tonio.homelinux.org/ <--- this one?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> yep thanks
[12:34] <Jucato> gnomefreak: Google is such a friend :)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Jucato: i spent most of spare time today googling tonio
[12:34] <KoluCCi> intelikey: noway.
[12:34] <intelikey> heheh
[12:35] <Jucato> gnomefreak: first result in "Kubuntu Tonio" :)
[12:35] <dennister> today i need some pretty specific nvidia help not found in the k/ubuntu documentation
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ah didnt think of kubuntu :(
[12:35] <intelikey> KoluCCi ~/.Xresources  then
[12:35] <dennister> <---has been wading through xorg.conf and nvidia docs for advanced info
[12:35] <gnomefreak> dennister: like what?
[12:35] <KoluCCi> intelikey: Ok. Which file has an instruction to run X from /usr/bin/X11/X ?
[12:36] <dennister> i have my 7800GT pcie card attached to a digital flat panel lcd monitor via DVI
[12:36] <KoluCCi> intelikey: not from ~ instead. Cause it will be read after X has been started
[12:36] <intelikey> KoluCCi maybe the init script.
[12:36] <KoluCCi> Where is directive to start X when system booting?
[12:36] <dennister> i've got the most basic stuff done, but the advanced options are needed here
[12:37] <intelikey> KoluCCi the init script
[12:37] <KoluCCi> intelikey: which one?
[12:37] <intelikey> kdm
[12:37] <intelikey> kdm is what starts X
[12:37] <dennister> i'm afraid the #nvidia channel is pretty dead, and the #nvnews is mostly windowns ppl at present
[12:37] <intelikey>  /etc/init.d/kdm  <--- that one.
[12:37] <FFForever> how do i install flash for firefox?
[12:38] <intelikey> !flash9
[12:38] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[12:38] <FFForever> that has never worked for me :-\
[12:38] <gnomefreak> http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/
[12:38] <gnomefreak> FFForever: go there than
[12:38] <intelikey> that has never been tried by me.    i don't do flash.
[12:38] <dennister> any experience/knowledge with these issues, gnomefreak?
[12:39] <FFForever> i have to have flash for my job
[12:39] <KoluCCi> intelikey: there are nothing which could help me :(
[12:39] <Jucato> Seveas' flash 9 works perfectly here...
[12:39] <gnomefreak> dennister: not advanced but also depends on what advanced options you mean
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Jucato: it does :)
[12:39] <intelikey> KoluCCi that's too bad.
[12:39] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I do hope he updates it to beta2 though...
[12:39] <FFForever> flashplugin-nonfree?
[12:39] <KoluCCi> intelikey: I know. :(
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Jucato: he will ( i might if i get time)
[12:40] <FFForever> why do i keep seeing packages called *-nonfree
[12:40] <gnomefreak> FFForever: yes
[12:40] <dennister> gnomefreak: i've got to get the gl working properly, advanced timings, xvmc...
[12:40] <KoluCCi> intelikey: that's why I don't like prepacked distros...
[12:40] <gnomefreak> FFForever: they are not open source
[12:40] <gnomefreak> dennister: thats over my head in nvidia
[12:40] <Jucato> FFForever: because they are non-free, in the free/open source sense of the term
[12:40] <intelikey> then use the gentoo distro
[12:40] <FFForever> are they still FREE?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> FFForever: define free
[12:41] <gnomefreak> FFForever: free of charge yes
[12:41] <Jucato> FFForever: they are free, as in no payment needed
[12:41] <KoluCCi> intelikey: I've used gentoo. But there are troubles with software installation procedure...
[12:41] <Jucato> FFForever: but not free/open source software
[12:41] <dennister> ok...thought i'd try...whats xgl/compiz i've heard so much about? is it just for decoration and 'hey, this is neat'?
[12:41] <Xal2> is it possible to use VNC with KDM?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> dennister: join #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> dennister: yes for most part
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Jucato: he pulled the package?
[12:42] <dennister> k, ty gnomefreak, i'll try a few other places :)
[12:42] <Jucato> gnomefreak: who pulled what?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Jucato: tonio pulled the new package (cant think of name off hand)
[12:43] <icheyne> how do I change the default mp3 player - if I use the right click/open with option, it always stays with slow bloated Amarok.
[12:43] <Jucato> gnomefreak: kpkgmanager? I'm not sure
[12:43] <gnomefreak> yeah
[12:43] <gnomefreak> let me check maybe he just didnt add it to the site
[12:43] <intelikey> icheyne prefered apps ?
[12:43] <icheyne> thx
[12:44] <icheyne>  I'll check now
[12:44] <KoluCCi> intelikey: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[12:44] <gnomefreak> he did :(
[12:44] <KoluCCi> there are someone, like I'm searching for
[12:44] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it's in his repos now?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Jucato: no
[12:44] <KoluCCi> I'll try to reboot system now :)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Jucato: apt-cache policy doesnt find it
[12:44] <Jucato> ah
[12:44] <icheyne> intelikey, no it does not have anything for mp3s
[12:45] <icheyne> :(
[12:45] <icheyne> Jucato, ?? :) any way to change the default mp3 player?
[12:45] <Jucato> gnomefreak: no way to browse his repo through a browser (which I usually do with other repos)
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Jucato: havent tried yet but apt-cache should have found it
[12:46] <Jucato> icheyne: Konueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[12:46] <icheyne> Jucato, ok thanks I'll give that a go
[12:48] <icheyne> Jucato, no that only works if I use Konqueror and I either use the desktop or Krusader. :(
[12:48] <icheyne> damn!
[12:48] <Jucato> icheyne: no, it affects the whole system
[12:48] <Xal2> How do you setup vncserver?
[12:49] <icheyne> I just tried it and it started amarok
[12:49] <intelikey> did you save your changes ?
[12:50] <intelikey> kde requires save + exit  not like 'nome
[12:50] <Jucato> icheyne: I'm presuming you put amarok in a lower position and clicked on Apply then OK?
[12:50] <intelikey> save/apply
[12:50] <Jucato> works here just fine. (change mp3's to play in Kaffeine...
[12:51] <Jucato> and make sure you choose in the General tab, not the Embedding tab
[12:51] <icheyne> Jucato, xmms is at the top, but it starts with Amarok
[12:51] <Jucato> hm...
[12:51] <icheyne> Jucato, yes the general tab
[12:51] <Jucato> maybe it has a problem with non-KDE apps?
[12:51] <icheyne> x-mp3?
[12:52] <Jucato> yes, x-mp3
[12:52] <Jucato> icheyne: but it works if you try to play an mp3 from Konqueror?
[12:52] <icheyne> Jucato, no it's amarok from konqueror too
[12:53] <icheyne> I'll send you a screenshot if you like
[12:53] <intelikey> w3m mp3 vim     it's all so confusing !
[12:53] <snowice> I added a child panel, but how do I configure it? right-clicking it configures the default only...
[12:53] <Xal2> How do I start kdm in VNC?
[12:54] <Jucato> icheyne: something's wrong then.
[12:54] <icheyne> pfft
[12:54] <Jucato> snowice: press Alt+F2, then enter "dcop kicker kicker restart". then try configuring again
[12:54] <icheyne> Jucato, is there a way to do it from the command line?
[12:54] <intelikey> Xal2 kdm or just Xorg ?    startx  for an xsession.
[12:54] <snowice> Jucato, ok, I'll give that a go
[12:54] <Xal2> doesn't work. I'm using tightvncserver
[12:55] <Jucato> icheyne: not that I'm aware of. let me check
[12:55] <Xal2> All I get is a console window.
[12:55] <icheyne> Jucato, thanks mate - appreciate it. So annoying!
[12:55] <intelikey> !vnc
[12:55] <Jucato> icheyne: I'm also going to try and check if I can reproduce your problem (installing xmms)
[12:55] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[12:56] <icheyne> I'm starting to *hate* Amarok
[12:56] <icheyne> Jucato, thanks!
[12:56] <Xal2> Thanks, I'll check that out.
[12:56] <intelikey> Xal2 been there ^  ?
[12:56] <intelikey> k
[12:56] <Xal2> nope
[12:56] <icheyne> Jucato, I just tried to change it to Juk and it failed at that too
[12:56] <snowice> Jucato, gives me an error "Error: couldn't connect to dcop server"
[12:56] <intelikey> !freenx | Xal2
[12:56] <ubotu> Xal2: freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[12:57] <intelikey> if your connection is not hyper speed ^
[12:57] <Jucato> snowice: ok, then Alt+F2, "killall kicker" then Alt+F2, "kicker". basically you just need to restart kicker/panel
[12:58] <Jucato> icheyne: no reason to hate it because of what's happening. I can assure you. it's not normal
[12:58] <icheyne> Jucato, I'm only kidding. ;)
[12:58] <icheyne> Jucato, don't care that much!
[12:58] <intelikey> Jucato kde is not normal ???
[12:59] <intelikey> :)
[12:59] <Jucato> icheyne: it just worked here
[12:59] <icheyne> Jucato, Kubuntu has been very good to me on the whole - I'm not complaining. I suppose I could always ask for my money back...
[12:59] <Jucato> playing MP3's with xmms
[12:59] <icheyne> Jucato, :(
[12:59] <intelikey> version differance you two ?
[12:59] <icheyne> Edgy
[12:59] <icheyne> hmm
[01:00] <Jucato> translation "I don't know what else to do"
[01:00] <icheyne> I upgraded this evening and I haven't restarted
[01:00] <Jucato> Kubuntu 6.10, KDE 3.5.5
[01:00] <snowice> Jucato, thanks it works great now
[01:00] <Jucato> er..
[01:00] <icheyne> maybe all those kde updates have fritzed it
[01:00] <icheyne> ?
[01:00] <Jucato> icheyne: you should log out and log in again when you upgrade to a new KDE version
[01:00] <Jucato> ok time to remove xmmssssss
[01:00] <icheyne> Jucato, ah! I'll try that. Just log out and in again - no restart?
[01:01] <intelikey> icheyne only need to reboot for kernel updates.
[01:01] <Jucato> icheyne: yeah. you only reboot when you install a new kernel and want to use that new kernel.
[01:01] <Jucato> you restart X when you change something in xorg.conf
[01:01] <icheyne> you learn something new every day...
[01:01] <intelikey> this is not M$ reboot OS
[01:01] <Jucato> intelikey: don't you need to restart when you change hostnames?
[01:01] <icheyne> ok thanks again. Back in a mo...
[01:02] <Jucato> s/restart/reboot
[01:02] <intelikey> Jucato no just issue a command.
[01:02] <intelikey> but i forget the command....
[01:02] <Jucato> intelikey: ah ok. coz last time I changed my hostname, I couldn't connect to the net until I rebooted
[01:03] <intelikey> yeah there is a command that will fix that.  i had to use it once but i don't recall what....   i asked ##linux and someone,  Quiznos maybe,  just blurted out a command, and i ran it and all was well again.
[01:04] <intelikey> networking is not my forty
[01:04] <intelikey> networking is not my forte' either.
[01:04] <Jucato> lol
[01:04] <Jucato> ditto
[01:05] <icheyne> Jucato, it's no good - still the fat blue wolf... :(
[01:05] <Jucato> ...
[01:05] <icheyne> thanks anyway mate
[01:05] <icheyne> really appreciate the effort
[01:05] <Jucato> that is just plain weird...
[01:05] <icheyne> isn't there a kde channel?
[01:05] <icheyne> I might try there
[01:05] <intelikey> fat blue wolf ?    is that a common referance to amarok ?
[01:06] <Jucato> nope
[01:06] <Jucato> it's just a icheyne reference
[01:06] <intelikey> ok.
[01:06] <intelikey> i kinda liked it....
[01:06] <icheyne> it's about right - the overfed mongrel!
[01:07] <Jucato> maybe I should mod Nuvola to use that logo instead of the stupid speaker icon it uses for Amarok..
[01:07] <icheyne> ok off to the kde channel - thanks again guys
[01:07] <intelikey> i saw amarok one or two times  made up a first impression mind set and haven't seen it sense.
[01:08] <Jucato> since, even
[01:08] <intelikey> made no sence to me either :)
[01:08] <Jucato> first impressions last.. but shouldn't
[01:08] <BluesKaj> amarok is good but a bit overdone with options
[01:08] <abdul> hi
[01:09] <rag> hi all, i have a laptop in front of than dvd not load
[01:09] <intelikey> hey i figure if you dislike something on first glance why stick around until you really hate it.....
[01:09] <abdul> can anyone help me installing an ati driver?
[01:09] <Jucato> it's trying to be a complete music player, so no wonder.
[01:09] <Jucato> intelikey: because sometimes you need to give things a second look. you might have missed something
[01:09] <abdul> i tried every howto i could find but it still doesn't work
[01:09] <BluesKaj> which ati card abdul?
[01:09] <abdul> radeon 9600 pro advance
[01:09] <BluesKaj> oooh.. nice
[01:10] <intelikey> !ati
[01:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <intelikey> that howto ^ ?
[01:10] <rag> abdul: or use fglrx
[01:10] <icheyne> abdul, have you tried the ATI wiki?
[01:10] <BluesKaj> frglx driver should work , abdul
[01:10] <rag> how to dvd, not load for me
[01:10] <rag> why?
[01:11] <BluesKaj> err fglrx :)
[01:11] <abdul> fglrx is loaded, but fglrxinfo gives something with mesa3d
[01:11] <intelikey> Jucato yeah i know.  just rambeling.     but i play all my audio with sox  and all my vidio in vlc  so i don't need anything else......
[01:12] <Jucato> yeah... I know. I just stick to the defaults if they don't give me any trouble.
[01:12] <Jucato> so far I've had no problem with Amarok or Kaffeine
[01:12] <intelikey> sox is the console default.....
[01:13] <icheyne> problem is that I like my apps to start immediately... Amarok takes about 5 secs to load and I use none of the fancy features
[01:13] <icheyne> the UI is overblown as well
[01:13] <abdul> ok i'll try out this binary driver howto
[01:13] <abdul> thank you
[01:14] <intelikey> time to scat.
[01:17] <inkwell> I got it!!!
[01:17] <Jucato> O.o
[01:18] <vyoman> does anyone know where to look for a change log, for adept auto updates? or in other words how do I know why i am updating libgnomevfs2-0_2.16.1-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[01:18] <vyoman> there is summary or explanation in the adept updates
[01:18] <Jucato> vyoman: currently, there's no way to do that with Adept yet
[01:19] <inkwell> where do i get the software to run world of warcraft?
[01:19] <vyoman> ok - is there a web page listing the changes - I can't just go ahead and updates production machines on good will alone :)
[01:19] <bimberi> !wow | inkwell
[01:19] <ubotu> inkwell: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:21] <Jucato> !changelogs | vyoman
[01:21] <ubotu> vyoman: changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com
[01:21] <icheyne> inkwell, http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=1185
[01:22] <inkwell> yo
[01:23] <nathan> How do I start easy ubuntu... When I click on it the icon jumps up and down for a while then disappears
[01:23] <nathan> is there a chat room for it?
[01:24] <apokryphos> nathan: #easyubuntu
[01:24] <vyoman> thanks for your help guys! i am thinking of using synaptic for updates it does show the changes...
[01:24] <nathan> thanks. I could have looked eh.
[01:25] <inkwell> what is that?
[01:25] <Jucato> !easyubuntu
[01:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[01:27] <inkwell> what's the diffence from wine to that codeweaver?
[01:28] <Skrot-> inkwell: Wine is developed by the community, codeweaver is developed by a firm i think, and is not free
[01:28] <Skrot-> or, codeweaver is the firm, think the product is called crossover
[01:29] <inkwell> i like free better, but is there any diffence?
[01:29] <eilker> !vmware
[01:29] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[01:29] <Skrot-> inkwell: i think codeweaver crossover focuse their energy on a small subset of applications such as Microsoft Office
[01:29] <Skrot-> While Wine is all over the place
[01:30] <Jucato> same as cedega, while using Wine code, optimizes/focuses on running games
[01:30] <FFForever> how long will it take to download kubuntu on dialup?
[01:30] <Jucato> O.o
[01:30] <Jucato> a loooong time
[01:30] <Skrot-> Something like that
[01:30] <FFForever> how long is long?
[01:30] <icheyne> inkwell, I believe codeweavers contribute to wine, but cedega do not - but I'm not sure
[01:30] <Jucato> have you ever tried downloading a whole CD on dial up? that long
[01:31] <icheyne> FFForever, you would be better off ordering it from a cd seller
[01:31] <LjL> Jucato: yes
[01:31] <Jucato> Kubuntu ISO is 690+ MB
[01:31] <apokryphos> FFForever: the CD is around 7mb/sec. If you download at, let's say max 5kb/sec, then :)
[01:31] <apokryphos> *CD is around 700meg
[01:32] <inkwell> wget http://thepiratecove.org/files/wine-0.9.21_wow_i386.deb.......where do i paste that?
[01:32] <icheyne> FFForever, you seem to be in the states - there are loads of cd stores there
[01:32] <icheyne> bye all
[01:32] <campbch> what does it mean when you can't access the hard drive and konqueror says it "stalled," but the OS and all programs opened normally?
[01:33] <FFForever> i know, but my friend is on dialup and hes in san fran and im not gunna do a 2day drive
[01:34] <bobbyd> inkwell: buy cedega
[01:34] <bobbyd> inkwell: it's cheap, less hassle and they keep up with the patches
[01:34] <apokryphos> FFForever: amazon is good
[01:34] <bobbyd> inkwell: but you would paste that in a konsole window
[01:35] <FFForever> whats a gtood bt client for linux like utorrent?
[01:35] <FFForever> good*
[01:35] <apokryphos> ktorrent
[01:35] <Jucato> ktorrent
[01:35] <BluesKaj> azureus
[01:35] <FFForever> is there a way i can disable sharing?
[01:36] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is unstable in edgy
[01:36] <apokryphos> yes
[01:36] <FFForever> ktorrent isnt stable?, how do?
[01:36] <FFForever> how so*
[01:36] <apokryphos> it was fine for me when I used it
[01:36] <Jucato> ktorrent is very stable, since Dapper
[01:37] <xwolf-> !wine
[01:37] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:46] <nathan> is there a way to make an image of a fresh install so that I can revert to it instead of reinstalling from the cd everytime?
[01:47] <Schalken> does anyone know where i can download and install the beta of flash player 9?
[01:47] <Jucato> !flash 9 | Schalken
[01:47] <ubotu> Schalken: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:47] <Jucato> easiest way probably, but it's only beta 1 (beta 2 was already released)
[01:48] <Schalken> so there isnt a deb for beta2?
[01:49] <Jucato> from Seveas? none yet. maybe some other 3rd party repo. but since Seveas is an Ubuntu dev, I'd trust his repo more...
[01:50] <Schalken> okay, if there are too many problems with beta1 i'll get beta2 from adobe
[01:51] <Schalken> Jucato: cheers!
[01:53] <Schalken> i have mutliple lines in my apt sources for edgy, edgy-updates and edgy-backports repectively. can all these be put on the one apt line (so one line has multiple 'distributions')?
[01:54] <Jucato> Schalken: you can have something like "deb http:...... edgy main restricted universe multiverse"
[01:54] <Jucato> edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[01:54] <Jucato> just don't put edgy, edgy-updates and edgy-backports themselves on one line
[01:55] <Schalken> Jucato: but not "... edgy edgy-updates edgy-backports main restricted universe mutliverse"?
[01:55] <Jucato> yes. do *not* do that
[01:57] <Schalken> okay
[01:59] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: How goes?
[02:00] <inkwell> where do you change the desktop theme? i downloaded one.
[02:00] <Jucato> !changetheme
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about changetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <Jucato> rawr
[02:00] <Jucato> !changethemes | inkwell
[02:00] <ubotu> inkwell: Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[02:01] <DaSkreech> inkwell: Glad to see you!
[02:01] <inkwell> good to be here
[02:01] <inkwell> got my problem fixed thanks to all your help
[02:01] <inkwell> and varios other people i annoyed
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Which problem was that?
[02:02] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I'm going to assume that you are ok since you are not responding :)
[02:02] <inkwell> ha, the adept one
[02:03] <DaSkreech> Ah right :)
[02:03] <DaSkreech> inkwell: have you got your repositories setup already?
[02:03] <inkwell> yep, got my video driver workin too
[02:03] <inkwell> :)
[02:05] <crazy_bus> Does anyone know if I will be able to fix this problem ;http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11368.0 or whether it would be better to just reinstall kubuntu
[02:09] <inkwell> i installed kdmtheme but can't find it
[02:10] <Jucato> inkwell: kdmtheme is for KDM Themes, not KDE themes.
[02:11] <inkwell> o
[02:11] <inkwell> where do you change the desktop theme? i downloaded one.
[02:11] <Jucato> inkwell: and to access kdmtheme, press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol" and go to Administration
[02:11] <Jucato> inkwell: I gave you a link already
[02:11] <Jucato> !changethemes | inkwell
[02:11] <ubotu> inkwell: Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[02:12] <grumpy_penguin> Anyone else having trouble with OO freezing Kubuntu ?
[02:12] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: You can just reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <DaSkreech> if you don't want to fix the problem
[02:14] <benner> hi!, i just downloaded ati drivers... its a .run file, i have kubuntu 6.10 how to start the installation?
[02:14] <Jucato> !ati | benner
[02:14] <ubotu> benner: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:14] <DaSkreech> !ati | benner
[02:14] <crazy_bus> Do you just click on reinstall.  Or completly remove it.  And then install it
[02:14] <DaSkreech> What the heck?
[02:14] <Jucato> DaSkreech: bleh
[02:14] <DaSkreech> I haven't been able to infomr anyone all day :-(
[02:14] <DaSkreech>  People keeps tealing the glory
[02:14] <DaSkreech> stealing
[02:15] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: I'd press alt+ctrl+F1 and login
[02:15] <Jucato> lol
[02:16] <crazy_bus> What does alt+ctrl do for you?  It doesnt do anything for me
[02:16] <DaSkreech> from there run sudo aptitude remove kdelibs4c2a && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: alt+Ctrl=F1
[02:16] <DaSkreech> +F1
[02:16] <benner> Jucato: i did that before, its seem to have worked because the resolution and color was really better and faster window reaction but fonts are so BIG that i cant do nothing.
[02:16] <DaSkreech> !fonts
[02:16] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[02:16] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[02:16] <DaSkreech> Hmm cool
[02:17] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Oh press Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back here
[02:17] <DaSkreech> I keep forgetting to do that before :(
[02:17] <DaSkreech> Now he'll never get back
[02:17] <DaSkreech> assuming that crazy bus is a him
[02:17] <crazy_bus> DaSkreech, but Alt+Cntrl+F1 does anothing for me
[02:17] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: What OS are you In?
[02:18] <crazy_bus> KDE is not working for me so Im using XFCE to try and fix it
[02:18] <DaSkreech> really?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> fascinating
[02:19] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok before you do aanythign if Alt+Ctrl+F1 woks then you nedd Alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back here
[02:19] <DaSkreech> now
[02:19] <benner> can somebody can help me, i install the ati drivers like you told me, i rebooted its seem to have worked because the resolution and color was really better and faster window reaction but fonts are so BIG that i cant do nothing.. so i restored my xorg.conf in vesa and waiting for help :)
[02:19] <DaSkreech> Holding Alt+Ctrl+F1 at the same time does nothing?
[02:19] <DaSkreech> how big is big?
[02:20] <benner> a letter take the whole screen or almost
[02:20] <dennister> omg! here's the nvidia settings dialog i remember from windblows...
[02:20] <crazy_bus> DaSkreech, it doesnt seem to do anything for me
[02:20] <dennister> now why the heck does none of the kubuntu edgy documetnation even mention nvidia-settings?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Thats slightly crazy :)
[02:21] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: do you use KDM ?
[02:21] <dennister> and here i was wading through tons of other documentation from multiple sources...lol
[02:21] <crazy_bus> I dont think so
[02:21] <dennister> anyway...i think i can finally handle this now pps...bye for now
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Did you install from a Kubuntu Cd?
[02:22] <crazy_bus> I did
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Hmm LIkely you are using kdm then
[02:22] <DaSkreech> Jucato: you hearing this?
[02:23] <xwolf-> i need to copy kmplot to a cd or whatever medium other than hd. how can i do that?
[02:23] <Jucato> I've heard it since yesterday... and I'm as clueless as he is
[02:23] <benner> can somebody can help me, i install the ati drivers like you told me, i rebooted its seem to have worked because the resolution and color was really better and faster window reaction but fonts are so BIG that i cant do nothing.. so i restored my xorg.conf in vesa and waiting for help :)
[02:24] <DaSkreech> WHy can't he Alt+ctrl+F1 ?
[02:24] <DaSkreech> benner: Which Video card?
[02:24] <DaSkreech> benner: Oh! ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:24] <benner> radeon x1600
[02:25] <benner> ok im trying into #ubuntu-xgl
[02:25] <fyrmedic> what is the command to delete a directory?
[02:25] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: rmdir
[02:25] <fyrmedic> thanx
[02:26] <fyrmedic> is there a tag to ignore the fact that it is not empty?
[02:26] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok well time to do some command line stuff
[02:26] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: can you open a terminal
[02:26] <crazy_bus> yes
[02:27] <DaSkreech> Ok type irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[02:27] <crazy_bus> it says bash: irssi: command not found
[02:28] <benner> what is the command to run a .run file ?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> benner: ./name.run
[02:29] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: sudo aptitude install irssi
[02:29] <DaSkreech> then try it
[02:29] <xwolf-> fyrmedic -r i think
[02:29] <fyrmedic> xwolf; ok thanks I am having issues with it
[02:30] <Jucato> fyrmedic: don't want to delete using Konqueror?
[02:30] <xwolf-> how do i change 'user@machine:/home/whatever$' in konsole and tt1?
[02:30] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: you can do rm -rf but that's easily the most dangerous command in linux
[02:31] <Jucato> that's why in some cases, it's safer to use Konqueror when deleting directories that are not empty
[02:31] <crazy_bus> I typed it in, should I log into this room from the terminal
[02:31] <fyrmedic> I am just already in terminal and figured it would be easier to type a few characters than go into gui and mess around but I guess I'll do that,.
[02:31] <xwolf-> what's the problem with rmdir -r dir/?
[02:31] <Jucato> xwolf-: no, the rm -rf command
[02:31] <Jucato> xwolf-: also, there's no way to recover something you've deleted in the command line
[02:32] <fyrmedic> xwolf; it just won't delete the directory and all the files and directories in it.
[02:32] <root_> Ive logged into the program from the terminal
[02:32] <root_> Im crazy_bus
[02:33] <DaSkreech> root_: Hello Ok if things go terribly wrong you can login to IRC from that and come back and ask us stuff ok?
[02:33] <xwolf-> well, $rm -r dir/ did just fine
[02:34] <nanotube> does anyone know how to change my bridged interface in vmware-player from eth0 to ra0 ?
[02:35] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok you can use that in case of soemthing bad
[02:35] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: you can login here for more help
[02:35] <crazy_bus> yes
[02:35] <DaSkreech> ready to try reinstall Kubuntu?
[02:36] <crazy_bus> ok
[02:36] <DaSkreech> from the terminal run sudo aptitude remove kdelibs4c2a && sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <nanotube> does anyone know how to change my bridged interface in vmware-player from eth0 to ra0 ?
[02:38] <crazy_bus> Im doing that now
[02:39] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: ok :)
[02:40] <crazy_bus> So if everything goes ok with this command, willeverything work alright again?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Dunno but it's a good bet that it will probably work
[02:42] <crazy_bus> And will all of my programs and settings still be installed?
[02:42] <Hobbsee> root_: please dont do that
[02:42] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Ummm
[02:42] <Jucato> tsk tsk
[02:42] <DaSkreech> Dunno. All non KDE apps will be installed.
[02:42] <Jucato> someone desperately wants to get kicked
[02:42] <phillijw> i installed kubuntu and i installed 46xx firmware deb and i get this error
[02:42] <phillijw> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode4.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[02:43] <phillijw> what do I do?
[02:43] <scotchi> salut benje
[02:43] <DaSkreech> I don't know about the ones that you installed that need KDE might not be there
[02:43] <coreymon77> root_: you need me?
[02:44] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: they should be an easy apt-get away though
[02:44] <root_> No, sorry I was just trying to figure out the commands of this command line irc
[02:44] <coreymon77> oh
[02:44] <coreymon77> okay
[02:44] <DaSkreech> root_: Now you know not to do that one again :)
[02:45] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: hows it going?
[02:45] <root_> Yes i do, sorry :(
[02:45] <crazy_bus> its currently up to removing kword
[02:46] <DaSkreech> Ok it's going to ask you to stop KDM at some point
[02:46] <DaSkreech>  I'm not sure whats going to happen then
[02:46] <crazy_bus> what does KDM do exactly?
[02:47] <flaccid> !kdm
[02:47] <Jucato> handles KDE sessions... that is, login screen :)
[02:47] <DaSkreech> Mostly it's job is to keep X running
[02:47] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[02:47] <DaSkreech> :-)
[02:47] <ubuntu> ?
[02:47] <phillijw> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode4.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[02:47] <phillijw> why cant i load that module
[02:47] <crazy_bus> I logged into xfce from recovery mode
[02:47] <flaccid> display manager calls window manager
[02:48] <crazy_bus> Its removed kdelibs4c2a
[02:49] <DaSkreech> ok it should be trying to install kubuntu-desktop now
[02:49] <nanotube> does anyone know how to change my bridged interface in vmware-player from eth0 to ra0 ?
[02:49] <crazy_bus> its now installing kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <ubuntu> is there a way to get konquerer to use firefox extensions? i have one extension i cannot live without :-(
[02:49] <crazy_bus> which will take a long time due to slow internet :(
[02:49] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Install firefox
[02:49] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: Doh I should have made you copy over the debs
[02:50] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: long time == days?
[02:50] <crazy_bus> No, around 1 hour 10 minutes to go
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Oh pfft then hang out here and chat :)
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Or have dinner :)
[02:51] <DaSkreech> assuming that it's dinner tiem where you are
[02:51] <crazy_bus> Its not.  Its more around lunch time
[02:51] <DaSkreech> Have lunch then :-)
[02:52] <Jucato> australia?
[02:52] <DaSkreech> crazy_bus: did you install a bunch of applications yourself?
[02:52] <crazy_bus> Yes
[02:52] <crazy_bus> Yes to australia and yes to installing a bunch of things myself
[02:53] <DaSkreech> Were a lot of them KDE applications?
[02:53] <Jucato> :)
[02:53] <robotgeek> Kapplication
[02:53] <flaccid> to australia?
[02:53] <DaSkreech> or appliKation
[02:53] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: that works better
[02:54] <crazy_bus> I dont thing I installed many new KDE apps.
[02:54] <crazy_bus> Most of the things I installed were gnome and kde independant
[02:54] <DaSkreech> ok well that's good they will still be there
[02:55] <DaSkreech> I like having a milion small tools :)
[02:55] <darthvader> hello again
[02:55] <darthvader> can anyone help me installing a driver for an ati radeon 9600?
[02:55] <DaSkreech> darthvader: You killed my father!!!!
[02:56] <darthvader> lol
[02:57] <darthvader> please help me, it's driving me nuts!
[02:57] <darthvader> i tried everything but it still doesn't work
[02:58] <robotgeek> !ati | grep darthvader
[02:58] <ubotu> grep darthvader: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <robotgeek> damn! | and grep go together
[02:59] <darthvader> i followed every step in that howto but no success
[03:01] <robotgeek> darthvader: i dont use ati, so sorry
[03:02] <darthvader> wise decision
[03:02] <robotgeek> darthvader: i actually use ati, sorry. but on mac, its old :)
[03:03] <darthvader> ok ty anyway
[03:05] <family> anyone in here use easyubuntu ?
[03:05] <csills> yes
[03:05] <csills> I use it
[03:05] <csills> was curious and wanted to check it out
[03:06] <d03boy> main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode4.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:03.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[03:06] <d03boy> how do I get this driver to work
[03:06] <family> have it working with Edgy Kubuntu by chance ?
[03:07] <csills> yes
[03:07] <family> they say SVN version of it works, but the server is down -- so I can't get it, I'm looking for someone with a _recent_ copy
[03:07] <csills> hmm let me check
[03:08] <robotgeek> family: oh well :)
[03:08] <robotgeek> d03boy: what card do you have? broadcom ?
[03:08] <family> robotgeek, can't blame a guy for trying :)
[03:09] <csills> how do you verify the version for easyubuntu
[03:10] <robotgeek> csills: if you got it off svn, the svn info command tells you
[03:10] <family> probably either as a comment in the python script, or a help menu would be my stabs
[03:13] <family> csills, I get a ton of errors when trying to run it... clean install of Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)
[03:14] <evolus> i edited kdmrc
[03:15] <evolus> for 100 dpi fonts
[03:15] <evolus> since i cant load the system
[03:15] <evolus> Crash
[03:15] <evolus> how can i reedit the file kdmrc ?
[03:15] <evolus> can i do it via live cd ?
[03:16] <robotgeek> evolus: the file should be in /etc/kdm, i think
[03:16] <robotgeek> you can hit ctrl + alt + f1 and edit
[03:16] <family> csills, what install method did you use for EU (easyubuntu) ?
[03:16] <csills> I had some errors at first.
[03:17] <csills> I had installed under gnome desktop
[03:17] <csills> and did not work
[03:17] <Benner> Grrr it did 3 days im trying to make work my Radeon X1600 in kubuntu 6.10.. i installed the ati drivers, seem to have worked fine because the resolution seem good, the colors are better than vesa, and window can be move without flickering.. BUT all the fonts are so big that i can't do nothing. even start a konsole.. but when i load xwindows from recovery mode, startx.. load perfect without that bigs fonts... Please somebody help
[03:17] <evolus> robotgeek: i cant use these commands
[03:17] <evolus> freeze screen
[03:18] <csills> Looks like I downloaded the wget http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.023.tar.gz
[03:18] <csills> and installed it again
[03:18] <csills> it has worked ever since then
[03:18] <robotgeek> evolus: are you sure its frozen?
[03:18] <evolus> yes
[03:19] <evolus> the underscore is frozen
[03:19] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, reboot. maybe boot into recovey mode
[03:19] <csills> it works under gnome and KDE desktop now
[03:19] <evolus> i tried
[03:19] <evolus> that doesnt works
[03:19] <robotgeek> evolus: do you have the live cd/install cd, try from there
[03:19] <evolus> yes
[03:19] <evolus> i am on the live cd now
[03:20] <evolus> how can i access to my system ?
[03:20] <robotgeek> evolus: there should be a "repair" my pc option
[03:20] <evolus> cause when i try to access partition /
[03:20] <evolus> i dont see these option
[03:21] <evolus> i searched
[03:21] <csills> family do you need the file again?
[03:21] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, you have me confused.
[03:21] <evolus> i must work and i cant access to my system
[03:21] <evolus> i hope i dont **** all
[03:21] <evolus> all my work / config is precious :(
[03:22] <family> csills, i get errors with that... I'll try again though .
[03:23] <family> csills, are you using a pretty bare Kubuntu ?
[03:23] <csills> nope
[03:23] <family> ubuntu ?
[03:23] <csills> I upgraded Ubuntu a good while ago
[03:24] <csills> yes the base install was ubuntu
[03:24] <family> See, before I had to install the Ubuntu-desktop on Kubuntu before it would work
[03:24] <family> lot of extra junk I'm not really wanting to install
[03:24] <csills> then I installed Kubuntu on top of Ubuntu
[03:24] <csills> yes I know
[03:24] <csills> well I was new to Ubuntu and was just playing around
[03:24] <csills> not that I regret it
[03:25] <csills> works flawlessly now
[03:25] <csills> love it
[03:25] <confusco> does anybody have an idea why my game is running slow? I've installed the nvidia driver correctly and direct rendering is on.
[03:25] <family> I like easyubuntu, but don't want to install 750Meg of extra _junk_ to run it ;)
[03:26] <csills> so you have a clean kubuntu install right
[03:26] <unix_infidel> Anyone here play XBL?
[03:26] <inkwell> how do i install a kde theme?
[03:27] <robotgeek> family: heh, just use the wiki :)
[03:28] <family> robotgeek, easyubuntu wiki ?
[03:29] <luca> !theme
[03:29] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[03:29] <robotgeek> family: no, ubuntu wiki
[03:29] <luca> !install_theme
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install_theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <luca> !install theme
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install theme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <robotgeek> luca: hmm, you might go want ot look at www.kde-look.org
[03:29] <Jordan_U>  confusco: what game?
[03:29] <luca> I was trying to find a good guide for inkwell :)
[03:30] <confusco> Tribes 2
[03:30] <luca> not able to explain it properly now - I am on gnome
[03:30] <luca> and do not remember every step
[03:30] <inkwell> where do i......!install theme?
[03:31] <inkwell> what is !install theme
[03:32] <robotgeek> !yourself | inkwell
[03:32] <ubotu> inkwell: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:32] <Jordan_U> !changethemes
[03:32] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[03:32] <ironfroggy> anyone know a firefox extension that does something like add a button to quickly bookmark a page as "read later"
[03:32] <ironfroggy> and maybe also a button to "read something marked for later"
[03:32] <robotgeek> ironfroggy: i like the add bookmark here extension
[03:33] <robotgeek> ironfroggy: create2 folders on your toolbar, and you are done
[03:33] <starhawk> hi all
[03:34] <ironfroggy> thanks
[03:34] <robotgeek> hi starhawk
[03:34] <evolus> erf, i must reinstall all
[03:34] <evolus> :(
[03:35] <robotgeek> evolus: err, no
[03:35] <robotgeek> evolus: linux users never reinstall :)
[03:35] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, are you dual booting or single booting?
[03:35] <evolus> dual boot
[03:35] <starhawk> I am tring to set up my internet I downloaded kubuntu 6.10 it is wireless linksys b the wireless pannel dosnot see it
[03:36] <robotgeek> !wireless | starhawk
[03:36] <ubotu> starhawk: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:36] <starhawk> oh it is usb adapter
[03:36] <robotgeek> starhawk: see if your card is supported first
[03:37] <starhawk> I dont see it in the docs
[03:37] <starhawk> been there
[03:37] <evolus> robotgeek: why ?
[03:37] <robotgeek> starhawk: complete model of card please
[03:37] <Benner> Grrr it did 3 days im trying to make work my Radeon X1600 in kubuntu 6.10.. i installed the ati drivers, seem to have worked fine because the resolution seem good, the colors are better than vesa, and window can be move without flickering.. BUT all the fonts are so big that i can't do nothing. even start a konsole.. but when i load xwindows from recovery mode, startx.. load perfect without that bigs fonts... Please somebody help
[03:38] <robotgeek> evolus: okay, what happens when you boot into rescue mode from cd?
[03:38] <evolus> idem
[03:39] <evolus> frozen when loading of tty fonts
[03:39] <family> robotgeek: probably me looking in the wrong place, but I'm not finding much help
[03:39] <evolus> error with ndiswrapper but i dont think that is the problem
[03:39] <robotgeek> evolus: hmm, strange. and all this because you changed dpi?
[03:39] <evolus> because my fonts were ugly
[03:39] <evolus> thats stupid XD
[03:39] <robotgeek> family: i can guide to the page on the ubuntu wiki, i am also trying to get on to the svn :)
[03:40] <family> robotgeek: I would appreciate that
[03:40] <robotgeek> family: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:40] <starhawk> it is a linksys b wireless usb adapter 2.4 ghz wusb11ver. 2.8
[03:40] <family> robotgeek: I've already been to that page, it doesn't have much to do with getting easybuntu running though
[03:41] <starhawk> it is a linksys b wireless usb adapter 2.4 ghz wusb11 ver. 2.8
[03:41] <BluesKaj> lenny from lalaland
[03:41] <robotgeek> starhawk: can you tell the output of "lsusb -v" and paste it somewhere?
[03:42] <starhawk> it will be a minite or two
[03:42] <robotgeek> family: sorry, cant do much about easyubuntu right now.
[03:42] <robotgeek> starhawk: sure
[03:44] <yanqing> howto call the katapult
[03:44] <yanqing> it has run, how to call out?
[03:44] <robotgeek> yanqing: alt + space
[03:45] <yanqing> I got nothing with alt+space
[03:45] <robotgeek> yanqing: hmm, strange.
[03:45] <ank> works right out of the box here
[03:46] <yanqing> edgy?
[03:46] <robotgeek> yanqing: it worked for me in dapper too
[03:46] <yanqing> yes, in dapper it's ok
[03:47] <ank> edgy here
[03:47] <robotgeek> evolus: it does not make a lot of sense, to be honest
[03:48] <Benner> Grrr it did 3 days im trying to make work my Radeon X1600 in kubuntu 6.10.. i installed the ati drivers, seem to have worked fine because the resolution seem good, the colors are better than vesa, and window can be move without flickering.. BUT all the fonts are so big that i can't do nothing. even start a konsole.. but when i load xwindows from recovery mode, startx.. load perfect without that bigs fonts... Please somebody help
[03:48] <robotgeek> Benner: binary driver?
[03:49] <evolus> ill test some tips
[03:49] <evolus> ++
[03:49] <evolus> thanks robotgeek
[03:49] <robotgeek> starhawk: this page says your card might work wth ndiswrapper: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L
[03:49] <Benner> i installed drivers like when you type !ati here
[03:49] <confusco> does anybody have an idea why my native game(Tribes 2) is running slow(Half FPS of Win). I've installed the nvidia driver correctly and direct rendering is on.
[03:49] <robotgeek> Benner: maybe uninstall, then?
[03:49] <ceros> i'm having trouble burning the dvd iso image for kubuntu on the ppc
[03:50] <Benner> ok for install, but how to remove ?
[03:50] <ceros> when using k3b, the error i keep receiving is that images over 4gb are not supported
[03:50] <robotgeek> Benner: you can use "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:51] <robotgeek> Benner: by going to "ctrl + alt + f1" and back by "ctrl + alt + f7"
[03:51] <Benner> yes i did that alots of time, tried fglrx and ati..   the ati one freeze the boot, but fglrx have jumbo fonts... what is weird, is when im in recovery mode, it works fine
[03:52] <robotgeek> Benner: i dont use ati, i dunno. sorry
[03:52] <Benner> ctrl-alt-f1 gives me a orange distortioned image, ctrl-alt-f7 goes normal
[03:53] <ceros> anyone know of another way to burn the dvd?
[03:53] <robotgeek> Benner: it should ave given you a terminal
[03:53] <robotgeek> ceros: k3b does not work?
[03:53] <ceros> ok, what other way can i burn this dvd?
[03:54] <Benner> ok looks like im having drivers problem if i cant go into others console... tell me, the page with ati instructions you gave me, was for ubuntu 6.10.. but im running kubuntu..is it the same instruction?
[03:54] <robotgeek> Benner: should be
[03:55] <intelikey> ceros gnomebaker k3b xcdroast are all frontends to     cdrecord
[03:55] <intelikey> or used to be.
[03:55] <Benner> i downloaded ati drivers from ati.com.. it's a 50mb .run file.. how i can start this app?
[03:55] <alex__> could anyone give me some advice on installing a lexmark z611 printer?
[03:55] <ceros> is there anything i can do on the command line?
[03:56] <fribuntu> ceros: you could use cdrecord directly, but I am not sure if it supports images > 4GB
[03:56] <intelikey> Benner chmod 755 *.run ;./*.run
[03:57] <intelikey> ceros cdrecord is cli
[03:57] <alex__> i have the drivers unpackaged but when i go to install them from printer management list, there's no z611
[03:57] <Benner> intelikey: thanks let me try.. in recovery mode or in a konsole is ok?
[03:58] <intelikey> Benner yes either   may need sudo.
[03:58] <intelikey> !sudo
[03:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:59] <intelikey> Benner sudo chmod 755 *.run ;sudo ./*.run    <--- with sudo.
[04:00] <Benner> intelikey.. ok it's installed.. i'm rebooting...
[04:01] <ceros> the thing is the dvd iso image for kubuntu on the ppc is 4.2GB
[04:02] <intelikey> 0,0
[04:02] <ceros> cdrecord keeps giving me the error that it can't burn images over 4gb
[04:02] <Benner> intelikey: ok it's installed correctly, but i still have my jumbo font problem :(
[04:03] <intelikey> kcontrol  set all fonts
[04:04] <Benner> when i put my xorg.conf in vesa mode, everything is fine, with flgrx jumbo fonts... i think i will take a photo of the screen to show you
[04:04] <FFForever> how do i install a newer kernel?
[04:05] <intelikey> newer than ?
[04:05] <FFForever> .17r5
[04:05] <rhodri> hi, i'm trying to change the colors of my kubuntu, but can't find the setting for the main frame in the file browser, can anyone help!??!  thanks
[04:05] <intelikey> FFForever get the source and build it.
[04:05] <FFForever> i cant just use apt-get?
[04:06] <kuja__> cdrecord doesn't do dvds, it only does cds.  dvd+rwtools burns dvds
[04:06] <intelikey> FFForever for newer than 2.6.17   not likely
[04:06] <intelikey> FFForever dapper still uses 2.6.15
[04:07] <starhawk> I am a dummy and cant make the floppy work or the internet
[04:08] <intelikey> starhawk sudo mkdir /media/floppy ;sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy -o umask=000
[04:08] <Benner> intelikey: can i send you the pictures i took to give you an idea of my problem?
[04:08] <starhawk> I am not good with the command line thats why I choose kubuntu
[04:08] <intelikey> Benner no.
[04:08] <intelikey> dialup.
[04:08] <starhawk> for the graphical interface
[04:08] <robotgeek> starhawk: are you still trying to get the outut?
[04:09] <kuja__> dialup can be rather painful to get working in linux....
[04:09] <starhawk> wireless tooo
[04:09] <intelikey> kuja__ not if you have a modem
[04:09] <intelikey> it is a pain if you are playing with a winmodem
[04:10] <robotgeek> starhawk: okay, just tell me what the id: xxxx is on lsusb
[04:10] <kuja__> True enough.
[04:11] <Benner> i though i could have a great experience using kubuntu for the first time... my first step is already alots of problems not even able to make my ati card working... i really tried but unfortunaly i have to go back at windows :(
[04:12] <root_> exit
[04:12] <intelikey> Benner you have the worst vidio card possable for a linux configuration....   or next to it...
[04:12] <starhawk> id 0000
[04:12] <kuja__> ATI on Linux? Ewwww
[04:13] <robotgeek> starhawk: what about dev: xxxx
[04:13] <intelikey> yep.  linux + ati = yuch
[04:13] <Benner> the thing who make me mad, it's a font problem not a driver problem...
[04:14] <kuja__> What sort of font problem?
[04:14] <starhawk> device 001
[04:14] <intelikey> scaling
[04:14] <Benner> can i send you screenshot kuja?
[04:14] <starhawk> as far as I can tell
[04:14] <kuja__> sure, why not
[04:15] <Benner> kuja__it's does that right after fgrlx install
[04:16] <kuja__> does what? I've yet to see anything
[04:16] <Benner> doesnt allow me to send to dcc server says
[04:17] <Benner> i'll give you an url
[04:17] <renato__> boa noite alguem poderia me ajudar a instalar minha webcam?
[04:18] <Benner> kuja__ http://66.130.124.127:81/1.jpg
[04:18] <Benner> kuja__ http://66.130.124.127:81/2.jpg
[04:18] <Benner> kuja__ http://66.130.124.127:81/3.jpg
[04:18] <renato__> se tiver alguma alma abenoada ai pra fazeresta beno :(
[04:19] <robotgeek> Benner: holy crap!
[04:19] <robotgeek> !es
[04:19] <kuja__> Oh my ...
[04:19] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:19] <robotgeek> binary driver are evil!
[04:19] <ash211> !pa
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pa - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <Benner> yes holy crap!
[04:19] <kuja__> So, does the card work at all without the proprietary drivers?
[04:20] <Benner> yes in vesa mode it's works fine.. and it's work fine in fgrlrx but only if i go in recovery mode and type startx
[04:20] <alex__> anyone know why i wouldn't be able to view my printer driver cups?
[04:20] <kuja__> recovery mode = bad idea
[04:20] <kuja__> I have an idea
[04:20] <Benner> good
[04:21] <kuja__> go into a terminal
[04:21] <kuja__> type in
[04:21] <kuja__> adduser testfont
[04:21] <kuja__> su - testfont
[04:21] <kuja__> startx
[04:21] <kuja__> You'll have to kill x first though
[04:21] <robotgeek> kuja__: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig wont help him?
[04:22] <crimsun> robotgeek: for...?
[04:22] <kuja__> Maybe it will, maybe it won't?
[04:22] <intelikey> startx will fail if x is already running
[04:22] <robotgeek> crimsun: he has huge fonts, i was just guessing :)
[04:22] <crimsun> ah
[04:22] <Benner> im in recovery mode in the console now.. so wich one first ?
[04:22] <kuja__> Well, he said the fonts are fine if he's root (a different user), so I wondered if it could have something to do with user specific configuration
[04:23] <crimsun> (btw, in edgy it would be dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config )
[04:23] <robotgeek> in feisty, it will be fontconfig-config-config
[04:23] <intelikey> oh that's like redondantly repetitive
[04:24] <Benner> Native, Autohinter or auto?
[04:24] <Benner> oups auto = none
[04:24] <kuja__> Do you have a CRT or LCD monitor?
[04:24] <Benner> CRT
[04:24] <kuja__> try native ... if I remember right hinting doesn't look right on some crts
[04:25] <crazy_bus> Thank you to the person who was helping me.  KDE works again now.
[04:25] <Benner> enable fontmapping per default?
[04:25] <nathan> I can't seem to access the internet with my rt2500 card with 6.10 any ideas
[04:26] <Skeez187> How do I manually save a session in Kubuntu?
[04:26] <intelikey> i dont know what an rt2500 is but there may be a wiki on it.
[04:26] <kuja__> It's in the K-Menu
[04:26] <intelikey> !wifi
[04:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:27] <intelikey> !network
[04:27] <kuja__> > enable fontmapping per default?
[04:27] <kuja__> yes
[04:27] <lascar> does anyone know how to add additional display resolutions to the x-server?
[04:27] <Benner> ok i rebooted, did the same
[04:27] <nathan> I can see the network but it won't connect
[04:28] <intelikey> lascar get a better card ?
[04:28] <lascar> ::sighs::
[04:28] <lascar> i got a bigger monitor
[04:28] <kuja__> Benner: might as well try my idea then
[04:28] <intelikey> lascar all joking aside. reconfigure X
[04:28] <Benner> i'll have to try you idea kuja, but tommorow i copy paste your lines
[04:28] <lascar> intelikey: I know.  How?
[04:28] <Benner> because i really have to go now :(
[04:29] <intelikey> lascar sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <kuja__> later
[04:29] <Benner> tanks guys i ll come back tomorrow!
[04:30] <kuja__> Hope he wrote it down, I certainly won't be in tomorrow, have to work.
[04:30] <intelikey> benner needs a new keyboard.  his "h" isn't working.
[04:30] <kuja__> *work the day after tomorrow, really, really, really early that is
[04:30] <kuja__> intelikey: lol
[04:30] <intelikey> see there is no h in tohmarrow
[04:30] <intelikey> :)
[04:31] <intelikey> kuja__ you laughed to soon and ruined that one.... ;/
[04:31] <intelikey> :)
[04:32] <Skeez187> Alright I cant find it
[04:33] <kuja__> I guess it was worth dropping in... haven't touched IRC in years
[04:33] <intelikey> kuja__ glad ta have ya with us.
[04:34] <nathan> how do I check what driver kubuntu is using for my wirless card
[04:34] <kuja__> The servers I liked died, kind of like how the forums I like die, &c
[04:34] <intelikey> nathan lsmod ?
[04:35] <campbch> anyone know why the mlnet core won't load on kmldonkey?
[04:36] <Skeez187> I'm using edgy, how doi manually save my session
[04:36] <Skeez187> ?
[04:36] <robotgeek> Skeez187: K-Menu -> Save Seeion
[04:37] <Skeez187> .. owned by stupidity.
[04:37] <campbch> !p2p
[04:37] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[04:37] <intelikey> Need to get 240kB/54.9MB of archives.
[04:37] <intelikey> After unpacking 183MB of additional disk space will be used.
[04:38] <kuja__> I never thought to look there either. It still stumps me as to why I can't save it from kcmsmserver
[04:39] <intelikey> that's for installing kde.... i don't think i will.
[04:40] <intelikey> hah to install gnupg   it says   The following extra packages will be installed:
[04:40] <intelikey>   libusb-0.1-4
[04:40] <intelikey> why would gnupg depend on libusb-0.1-4 ???
[04:40] <alex__> could anyone give me some help with installing a printer?
[04:41] <intelikey> !cups
[04:41] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:41] <lascar> intelikey: no thanx; i've used that before, and it certainly doesn't ADD resolutions
[04:41] <lascar> there's some manual editing involved
[04:41] <lascar> and i'd like to know where
[04:41] <lascar> !x-server
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <mad> hey everybody ))
[04:42] <intelikey> add repos ? lascar what are you on about ?
[04:42] <lascar> display resolutions.  Same as before?
[04:42] <mad> #ubuntu
[04:42] <kuja__> You have to check which resolutions you'd like when doing the reconfigure-xserver, afterwards it should be able to change it from systemsettings
[04:43] <intelikey> lascar sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   <--- if you will answer the questions correctly.  that is what you want.
[04:43] <BluesKaj> !X
[04:43] <lascar> kuja_: and how would i do that?
[04:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:43] <intelikey> it does add resolutions if you configure correctly.
[04:44] <kuja__> It has, or should have, a question regarding resolutions (it doesn't seem to behave quite the same in edgy though)
[04:45] <intelikey> kuja__ i can't speak for edgy.  dapper is as far as i go.
[04:45] <lascar> tell me about it
[04:45] <intelikey> try adding -plow
[04:46] <lascar> nothing wrong with the refresh rate
[04:49] <lascar> kuja_: what if i edited the Screen section of the xorg config?
[04:50] <intelikey> kuja__ have they indeed removed the only useful part of the reconfig process in edgy ?
[04:51] <kuja__> No, I just remember it misbehaving once or twice before, I'll double check now to check though
[04:52] <intelikey> or should i say root's home.
[04:53] <kuja__> Seems to still have all functionality to me *restores backup*
[04:54] <intelikey> asked for the rez's like a good reconf should ?
[04:55] <kuja__> yup
[04:56] <lascar> kuja_: for the record, there was no change
[04:57] <intelikey> that's nice.
[04:58] <dragonfly7> What is a good GUI app to burn data CDs?
[04:58] <bipolar> dragonfly7: k3b
[04:58] <kuja__> Now that I think really hard about it, I think it was linked to my closing out konsole in the middle of a reconfigure :P
[04:58] <lascar> intelikey: look, whatever problems you have, kindly get over them.  This is a support channel hosted over the internet.  What personal issues could you possibly have with me?
[04:58] <dragonfly7> bipolar: Thank you.
[04:58] <intelikey> lascar that's nice.
[04:58] <bipolar> dragonfly7: yw
[05:01] <raphael1> sup
[05:01] <raphael1> guys
[05:01] <lascar> bonsoir
[05:01] <intelikey> kuja__ that's do it... seeing that you have the option to write certan sections befor moving to the next section.... a forced exit after the first write would definitely hose the config.
[05:02] <intelikey> s/'s/'ll/
[05:05] <kuja__> ah, I see, user error strikes again ;)
[05:05] <intelikey> pebcak
[05:08] <kuja__> Hmm, looks like the room went quiet on me allofasudden
[05:08] <intelikey> al  lof  as  ud  den   ?
[05:09] <intelikey> #ubuntu is prolly still krazy
[05:09] <intelikey> if you like scrolling text
[05:10] <crazy_bus> For some reason the music in The Battle of Wesnoth has a sort of crackle to it.  The sound effects don't and neither does anything else.  Does anyone know how to fix it?
[05:11] <kuja__> A hammer will give you a good start.
[05:11] <intelikey> have hammer and mace.  need a longbow.
[05:12] <kuja__> What do you run it in anyway, wine I presume?
[05:12] <intelikey> crazy_bus i turn the music off in wesnoth.  play my own audio files....   never have even dl'd the music files for it.
[05:13] <crazy_bus> No.  It's a open source multiplatform game
[05:13] <intelikey> kuja__ no it's native
[05:13] <kuja__> amazing, those are far and few between :O
[05:13] <intelikey> !wesnoth
[05:13] <ubotu> wesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.8-1 (edgy), package size 1820 kB, installed size 4140 kB
[05:13] <brett> is there any graphical c++ coding environments for linux?
[05:13] <intelikey> and the official channel is here on freenode.
[05:13] <intelikey> #wesnoth
[05:13] <kuja__> brett: try kdevelop
[05:14] <brett> kuja__: the channel?
[05:14] <crazy_bus> I know, I joined it 2 minutes ago
[05:14] <intelikey> !kdevelop brett
[05:14] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[05:14] <kuja__> channeL/
[05:14] <intelikey> !kdevelop | brett
[05:14] <kuja__> **channel?
[05:15] <brett> oh
[05:15] <brett> heh
[05:15] <david> does anyone here use frostwire?
[05:15] <david> I've been having problems connecting lately any ideas why?
[05:15] <intelikey> david is this a poll or is there an ensuing quarry ?
[05:15] <CVirus> hehe
[05:16] <brett> thanks
[05:17] <david> i was just wondering if anyone else is having problems with it, frostwire that is
[05:17] <david> I haven't been able to establish a connection for about 1 week
[05:17] <brett> I found a program in add/remove or adept.. i dont remeber which that allowed me to switch my desktop behavior to a more Windows like interface... but now i forgot ... does anyone know what it is called?
[05:18] <kuja__> which behavior are you trying to change?
[05:18] <brett> the clicking mostly... i want to click to select
[05:18] <brett> rather then to run
[05:18] <lascar> ah
[05:19] <kuja__> In other words, to make it click to select, doubleclick to run?
[05:19] <lascar> brett: system settings -> peripherals -> mouse
[05:20] <msl> david, I didn't have any problems earlier today
[05:20] <lascar> change the settings in the "Icons" box under the "General" tab
[05:20] <brett> lascar: thanks
[05:20] <lascar> brett: np
[05:21] <brett> with kdevelop can i design forms in a gui or only through text?
[05:22] <kuja__> through the gui
[05:22] <FFForever> how do i install flash?
[05:24] <crazy_bus> does anyone know what the path would be for the main folder of Battle of Wesnoth?
[05:25] <rerere> does anyone know where  to configure the log in screen on 6.10
[05:26] <crazy_bus> Don't worry I've found it
[05:26] <msl> crazy_bus: /usr/share/games/wesnoth/
[05:26] <msl> nm :)
[05:27] <kuja__> rerere: you can use kcontrol to do it
[05:28] <rerere> i'll tryed but if i set a different backround it will show the backround after i loged on not on the main log on screen
[05:30] <kuja__> rerere: It's a Kubuntu issue ... never had any trouble with that in Debian. You'll probably have to do something more complicated to be able to switch it.
[05:30] <rerere> and the changes i made in /etc/kde3/kdm don't work as well
[05:31] <rerere> yes debian no prob
[05:31] <rerere> i just need to find the path where the log in screen is configured
[05:32] <FFForever> anyone wanna help me get sound in flash9?
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> rerere: /etc/kde3/kdm
[05:35] <rerere> and the changes i made in /etc/kde3/kdm don't work as well
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> rerere: changes to kdm? you need to disable the theme, that overrides everything else.
[05:35] <LeeJunFan> rerere: Theme=no or whatever.
[05:36] <rerere> i c i will try that
[05:36] <LeeJunFan> rerere: if you look you'll see that line having to do with enabling theme in kdmrc
[05:37] <rerere> ok thanks
[05:37] <crazy_bus> Has anyone here installed The Battle of Wesnoth from add/remove programs and then later added in the sound files with adept?
[05:38] <FFForever> nope, why would u do that?
[05:40] <crazy_bus> I installed the game in Add/remove programs because I saw it there.  But the version there is the one without campaign and music packages.  And it didn't say so
[05:40] <rerere> LeeJunFan: /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu got it thanks
[05:40] <LeeJunFan> rerere: ah, you changed the theme to suit your needs then instead of disabling it?
[05:41] <crazy_bus> So to get the music I chose the package in adept.  However the music in the Wesnoth game has a crackle in it
[05:42] <rerere> LeeJunFan: no worrys i will find my way around now
[05:43] <FFForever> why dose the vlc player for firefox say no video?, but if i download and play it it works
[05:53] <sdlnxgk> Happy Thanksgiving Everyone !!!
[05:53] <crazy_bus> Is it thanksgiving?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> It will be in 6 min...
[05:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> here at least.
[05:54] <crazy_bus> Is it still Wendnesday where you are?
[05:55] <FFForever> how do i make vlc's firefox plugin work with wmv's?, it just says no video
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> Dr_willis I hear  ya on the 6 mins have to go to work and didn't want to forget :)
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> ya still Wed here 2100hrs
[05:57] <sdlnxgk> Wed Nov 22 21:04:54 PST 2006
[05:58] <Dr_willis> allready had one turky dinner at work....
[05:58] <Dr_willis> get another one tomorrow....
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Yummm......
[05:58] <Dr_willis> I can feel my self getting sleepy now..
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> I will have three when it's all  said and down
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> having one at work tonight
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> then at home tomorrow
[05:58] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to install the latest "Battle of Wesnoth" to fix my problems.  If I followed this tutorial, what would I need to change to make it work in Kubuntu?
[05:58] <sdlnxgk> then at work again
[05:58] <crazy_bus> http://gaming.gwos.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=30&Itemid=63
[05:59] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  may be easier to just get the latest source and install it in your users home dir.
[06:00] <sdlnxgk> nice webpage  have to bookmark that one
[06:00] <crazy_bus> How would I do that? Dr_willis?
[06:00] <sdlnxgk> trying  to get this patch installed for WoW right now which is a big FAT no go...
[06:00] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  thats absicially what that guide is doing.
[06:00] <sdlnxgk> talking to cedega channel to get it fixed
[06:01] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  you may just need to install some gnome dev pacakges..  follow the guide and see if any errors pop up.
[06:01] <crazy_bus> ok, I'm trying it now
[06:01] <Dr_willis> crazy_bus,  or try          ./configure   instead of  ./configure --disable-gnome1  --with-gnome
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I perfer to ./configure --prefix=/home/willis/mystuff
[06:02] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:02] <Dr_willis> that way it stays in my homedir.. not installed systemwide
[06:02] <crazy_bus> I'm just not very adventurous with installing having my KDE recently break :(
[06:03] <changeagent> just curious, but why did gaim 2 make it into Ubuntu edgy and not Kubuntu edgy? (yea, I know but I don't like Kopete)
[06:04] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. you mean installed by default? the 2 should be using the same repositories.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info gaim2
[06:04] <ubotu> Package gaim2 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:04] <Dr_willis> !info gaim
[06:04] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[06:05] <changeagent> ubuntu advertises it as being available in edgy
[06:06] <Dr_willis> we have advertisements?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> egads wesnoth-1.1.12.tar.gz   is 70mb.. thats a large amount of source for a game.
[06:07] <Starwatcher> hey all question has anyone have a problem with thunderbird v1.5.08 linking with firefox v2?
[06:07] <crazy_bus> Yes, considering I just downloaded the older version to have it not work properly
[06:08] <DFM> evening
[06:09] <Starwatcher> older version thunderbird or firefox i have to problem with firefox bring up thunderbird but thunderbird can do no updates or search for extention without it being able to call on firefox
[06:10] <Starwatcher> to=no
[06:20] <DFM> I want to install Ubuntu 64bit on my system that already dual boots xp/kubuntu
[06:20] <DFM> when I install will it add itself to grub?
[06:20] <DFM> or will it rewrite grub and cause me to loose access to the 32bit version?
[06:21] <DFM> I have been searching but guess I don't know what to look for.
[06:27] <kuja__> DFM: it will rewrite your grub such that it will use the grub menu.lst from the new installation. It should detect both of the others though
[06:28] <LeeJunFan> DFM: that's right, when your system boots you will have your choice of all 3 OS'es but the grub it will be using will be the one on your new installation, so if you need to edit grub then edit the one on your newest installation.
[06:29] <DFM> ok
[06:29] <DFM> if I uninstall the 64 bit version how do I reset grub like it was before?
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> DFM: first boot into the 32 bit version and run sudo grub-install hd0, or whatever your HD is.
[06:30] <LeeJunFan> DFM: running that from your 32 bit install will install it's grub config to the HD.
[06:31] <DFM> i see
[06:31] <DFM> then edit grub to remove reference to 64 bit?
[06:31] <FreddyM> Jucato, ping
[06:32] <Jucato> FreddyM: pong
[06:32] <FreddyM> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137758
[06:32] <FreddyM> can you confirm this
[06:32] <FreddyM> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/72522
[06:32] <FreddyM> using that data
[06:33] <Jucato> FreddyM: I can't set bugs in KDE to CONFIRMED. only devs can do that
[06:33] <DFM> final ?.....do you recommend that I put 64 on win hd since I only use it for gaming and if something messes up then nothing is lost
[06:33] <Jucato> I'll just comment that I'm experiencing it to
[06:33] <FreddyM> Jucato, we can't get it fixed because LP is a non-KDE site and the KDE team needs feedback to KDE apps on their page
[06:33] <Jucato> s/to/too
[06:33] <DFM> or add more partition's to linux drive?
[06:33] <FreddyM> Jucato, no i mean leave the same comment you left on the LP page on the b.k.o page
[06:34] <Jucato> oki dokie
[06:34] <FreddyM> Jucato, that's what i mean
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> FreddyM: I've never seen that, really it sounds like your lag might actually be loss, and rexmitting the away message to the IRC server because the ACK timed out.
[06:34] <LeeJunFan> FreddyM: you on wireless?
[06:34] <FreddyM> LeeJunFan, no
[06:35] <FreddyM> i connect via DHCP to my shcoo networks
[06:35] <Jucato> FreddyM: done. and why aren't you using your regular nick? :P
[06:35] <kuja__> I'm not experiencing any trouble like that, and my lag is far worse. I'm using a different server though...
[06:35] <FreddyM> I can check the /raw file  around sunday
[06:35] <FreddyM> Jucato, the other nick is connected at my school computer, 200 miles away
[06:35] <Jucato> oh....
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> FreddyM: if it's a registered nick you can kick it.
[06:36] <LeeJunFan> /msg nickserv help
[06:36] <FreddyM> LeeJunFan, i know but I like to have my uptime
[06:37] <FreddyM> arg i got dc'ed somehow
[06:47] <stuart> can someone advice how to remove software not showing in synaptic
[06:47] <stuart> advise that was
[06:47] <Dr_willis> how did you install it?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> that way they can have more shopping days. :)
[06:51] <darkangel> hi!! I need an expert opinion... what's better, open office or star office? XD
[06:52] <Admiral_Chicago> darkangel, i like Koffice
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Open office is the free varient that used to be staroffice i thought.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> is there still an actual staroffice?
[06:53] <darkangel> mmm why? koffice, what's the difference?
[06:53] <Dr_willis> i find abiword does what i need.
[06:53] <Jucato> KOffice integrates well with KDE
[06:54] <Jucato> OpenOffice.org is cross platform and probably handles ODF formats better than the others
[06:54] <Jucato> Abiword can't even open .odt, I think
[06:54] <Admiral_Chicago> darkangel, you'll find it's a matter of what you like, i like Koffice and abiword and hate Open Office
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> other people HATE Koffice and love OpenOffice
[06:55] <Jucato> OopenOffice is also a bit heavy, and usually needs Java (you can turn it off)
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> but i still reccomend OpenOffice to Windows users
[06:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato, i'll keep that in mind, i hate java
[06:56] <darkangel> ok I think I should try koffice, thank's for advice!
[06:56] <archangel_> Hey anyone here know how you can access your bluetooth cell phone (Razr) through kubuntu?
[06:56] <archangel_> can you do that?
[06:56] <archangel_> Windows XP cant do it very well at all
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, yes
[06:57] <Dr_willis> thers severral bluetooth packages you can install that enable it.. it can be a little bit of work..
[06:57] <archangel_> sweet, I had a feeling you could
[06:57] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup might help
[06:57] <crazy_bus> Abiword can open odt
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Bluetooth seems to be one of those over hypped things.. :) it was just supposed to revolutonize everything!
[06:58] <archangel_> I have blue tooth software installed
[06:58] <Dr_willis> Its slowly gaining ground i guess.
[06:58] <archangel_> I just dont know how to run it
[06:58] <omari> man i hate to be the guy dependent on windows but there is too many configurations that are needed to be done before linux is a good machine
[06:58] <omari> for the home consumer
[06:58] <Jucato> Dr_willis: time to step outside the house  :)
[06:58] <omari> that is
[06:58] <Jucato> O.o
[06:58] <omari> but thats what you pay for with windows
[06:58] <omari> ease of mind and hassle
[06:59] <Admiral_Chicago> omari, i've heard the opposite
[06:59] <omari> even more so than with linuxx
[06:59] <omari> i mean dont get me wrong windows ihas alot that needs to be done also but
[07:00] <omari> most of it is point click
[07:00] <Admiral_Chicago> omari, i installed Kubuntu on a guy's computer and he told me "I hated setting up drivers in windows"
[07:00] <omari> mental capability of a 5 year old
[07:01] <omari> bubut at least with windows you know your getting the latest drivers
[07:01] <Jucato> Kubuntu is specifically built for the home consumer/desktop user. You barely have to do any setup, unless you have some exotic hardware. What takes time is to set it up the way Windows is set up (like codecs). but that's unique to Kubuntu
[07:01] <omari> not some patch created by joe blow in the attic
[07:01] <omari> i love the concept of linux
[07:01] <omari> GNU
[07:01] <omari> i am forcing myself to get into it
[07:02] <Jucato> omari: Kubuntu does not even recommend using patches or drivers from 3rd party repositories
[07:02] <Jucato> from some "joe blow in the attic"
[07:02] <omari> i got suse on the tlap adn kubuntu on the desk
[07:02] <omari> but is gets tiring
[07:02] <Jucato> bottom line: Linux is not for everyone, just as Windows or Macs aren't for everyone
[07:02] <omari> tru tru
[07:03] <Admiral_Chicago> omari, i think it's more of a "set up out of the box" with Kubuntu, Windows is a long process
[07:03] <Lynoure> omari: I'd love to take this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic but I do not want to take part of it here as it is not a support matter
[07:03] <Jucato> [end of -offtopic discussion] 
[07:03] <omari> oh this is a a support froom
[07:04] <omari> i just thought it was the kubuntu community room
[07:04] <omari> my b
[07:05] <omari> i still like it thats why im not done with it yet thanks
[07:21] <archangel_> how can I connect via data cable to my Razr?
[07:24] <archangel_> anyone?
[07:24] <archangel_> I will ahve to pick this up tomorrow
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_, maybe check the forums
[07:24] <archangel_> I cant keep my eyes open
[07:25] <archangel_> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[07:35] <family> whats the command to give the old "first time kde" setup wizard ?
[07:35] <Jucato> family: the program is called KPersonalizer. not installed by default
[07:35] <family> one that askes if you would like to go with a certain style, change timezone, and turn off program-start feedback etc
[07:36] <family> Jucato: thanks
[07:51] <inkwell> Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.......how?
[07:51] <PurpleMonkey> help needed. How to set the Networking DNS so that it will NOT reset when the computer go to sleep. I am using a router. The Firefox cannot connect to internet when that happen
[07:55] <isecross> Hello, i need help, I installed yesterday firefox 2.0 and when i'm goint to page starting of https:// i got that error:
[07:55] <isecross> Check to make sure your system has the Personal Security Manager
[07:55] <isecross>     installed.
[07:55] <Schalken> where are icons stored?
[07:56] <Jucato> Schalken: icons installed by admin or through a package manager /usr/share/icons/ icons installed by the user using System Settings/KControl ~/.kde/share/icons
[07:58] <Schalken> Jucato: sry yeah thats what im looking for, thanks!
[08:18] <smaggard> happy thx giving!!! gobble gobble!
[08:19] <Jucato> hehe :)
[08:21] <d03boy> i need some help getting wireless to work
[08:23] <d03boy> help me or i'll eat your soul
[08:28] <unix_infidel> d03boy: is that a question?
[08:29] <eilker> !vmware > eilker
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless : d03boy
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless : d03boy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <Admiral_Chicago> !wireless | d03boy
[08:32] <ubotu> d03boy: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <XVampireX> Anyone tried ktorrent 2.1beta1?
[08:33] <Emess> nope
[08:33] <musya3d> anyone here know how to use kopete? or does use t?
[08:33] <musya3d> it*?
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> XVampireX, no but ti want know
[08:34] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, what about it?
[08:34] <musya3d> i cant seem to get my accounts to log on, and it asks for my wallet password which i give to it but it says incorrect password, and its not incorrect thats for certain.
[08:35] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, did you try your log in password?
[08:37] <musya3d> yea i did
[08:37] <musya3d> how would you go about relogging into your accounts anyway i cant seem to find that option?
[08:39] <XVampireX> Admiral_Chicago: I'm compiling, will tell you how it goes
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, delete your ~/.kde/shares/kdewalletmanager I believe it is
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> XVampireX, cool
[08:43] <musya3d> Admiral_Chicago: where is that file at?
[08:44] <RoC_MM> musya3d, that's the path
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> /home/user/.kde
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> user being your log in name
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago> ~/ is shorthand
[08:45] <musya3d> cant seem to find that directory nor file
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, please open up konsole
[08:47] <cntb> clicking links here on xchat brings konqueror. I would like firefox to show links by default instead.HOw?
[08:47] <Schalken> where are the system color schemes stored?
[08:48] <Jucato> Schalken: /usr/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes or ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes
[08:49] <musya3d> is terminal the same as konsole?
[08:49] <Schalken> musya3d: yes
[08:49] <Schalken> Jucato: cheers!
[08:49] <musya3d> ok its open now what?
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, cd ~/
[08:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ls
[08:51] <eilker> hi people, anyone experienced in vmware ?
[08:52] <unix_infidel> eilker: what would you like to know?
[08:53] <eilker> unix_infidel:i wanna try other operating systems(like redhat,suse,bsd,win 2003 server etc.) in my linux/kubuntu, is free products of vmware enough for me ? or should i buy commercial softwares ?
[08:53] <Admiral_Chicago> musya3d, can you PM me?
[08:53] <unix_infidel> eilker: what do you want to use the Operating Systems for?  General worksation testing, Enterprise Worksation Testing, SOHO Server Testing, Enterprise Server Testing?
[08:54] <unix_infidel> eilker: you should also be asking yourself...What software will i be running on the Guest Operating System.
[08:55] <eilker> unix_infidel:first step for me, to know those operating system desktop enviroment, its structure etc, my aim is on experience, nothing related with complex thing at the moment
[08:56] <unix_infidel> eilker: Then finally you should ask yourself, What is my host hardware?  Will it support my testing needs.
[08:57] <unix_infidel> eilker: I'd personally recommend using no less than p4 and 512MB RAM for vmware anything.
[08:57] <eilker> unix_infidel:p4 2.4 and 512 ram here already
[08:58] <londo4> How can I Check whether your application uses OSS instead of ALSA???
[08:58] <unix_infidel> eilker: that's bare minimum.  If you have the opportunity to upgrade to atleast 1GB RAM that would be favorable.
[08:58] <londo4> Hallo Admiral_Chicago?
[08:58] <unix_infidel> londo4: use alsa-oss and it wont matter, you can have legacy oss apps use alsa :)
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> londo4, hello
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> is your system wokring
[08:59] <londo4> No man
[08:59] <londo4> I` m trying untill now
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> londo4, i think it is in sytem settings, sounds or something
[08:59] <londo4> Do you can give me that instruction again?
[08:59] <peanutb> how would i set up my windows wifi driver with ndiswrapper? it seems to give an error on boot up, something about invalid argument and modprobe
[08:59] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd check but i'm afk my main computer at home. on windows :|
[09:00] <londo4> ok
[09:00] <eilker> unix_infidel:i see, thank you
[09:01] <peanutb> anyone
[09:01] <unix_infidel> eilker: you want to run vmware on linux or windows?
[09:01] <londo4> I have a old computer that mean I`m using OSS application ?
[09:01] <Admiral_Chicago> !ndiswrapper
[09:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> peanutb, that's the best i could do
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not a networking person at all
[09:03] <peanutb> its time for me to get a native linux wifi card, i guess.
[09:04] <eilker> unix_infidel:i wanna run it in my kubuntu
[09:04] <unix_infidel> eilker: http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[09:04] <unix_infidel> get that and go for it.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> Be aware though, that using vmware server 1.0 with Server 2k3 has some SERIOUS Limitations.
[09:05] <eilker> unix_infidel:yeah i was already there:) , and should i need to download vmware player thing ? it is free too, what is it for ?
[09:06] <unix_infidel> eilker: yes, its totally free. its a program
[09:07] <unix_infidel> eilker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[09:07] <unix_infidel> That tutorial is to install windows xp, the Linux installs are very similar.
[09:07] <Schalken> where is trash stored?
[09:07] <Jucato> O.o
[09:07] <cntb> NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX          100 DDR/200 DDR]  (rev b2) i slegacy or not ?
[09:08] <Jucato> Schalken:
[09:08] <Schalken> Jucato: can you search hidden files?
[09:08] <Jucato> Schalken: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[09:08] <eilker> unix_infidel: i have already checked the tutorial too, thanks:) but i couldnt undstand your warning  "Be aware though, that using vmware server 1.0 with Server 2k3 has some SERIOUS Limitations."
[09:08] <cntb> Schalken, maybe trash is per user ? in .trash ?
[09:09] <Jucato> Schalken: afaik, yes
[09:09] <Schalken> cntb: thats what i thought :P
[09:09] <Schalken> where is the search thing anyway?
[09:09] <unix_infidel> eilker: You mentioned earlier that you wanted to use windows server 2003 with Vmware Server 1.0.
[09:09] <Jucato> Schalken: Find Files/Folder in the K Menu, or Ctrl+F in Konqueror
[09:09] <cntb> in konsole Schalken
[09:10] <cntb> Schalken, cd ~
[09:10] <cntb> user@pc1ubuntu:~$ cd .Trash/
[09:10] <cntb> user@pc1ubuntu:~/.Trash$
[09:10] <eilker> unix_infidel: ohh 2k3 means windows server 2003:) got it
[09:11] <Schalken> cntb: no such folder as ~/.Trash it appears it's actually ~/.local/share/Trash/ as Jucato said
[09:11] <Schalken> Jucato: only the latter searching method works
[09:11] <Schalken> Jucato: what is the command for what would normally be 'find files/folders' in the kmenu?
[09:11] <cntb> ah on my sys tis exactly there ok
[09:12] <Jucato> Schalken: kfind
[09:12] <Schalken> Jucato: cheer
[09:12] <Schalken> s
[09:13] <eilker> unix_infidel: i am excited of wmvare, i am gonna try many os, it is a great software right ?
[09:13] <Jucato> it should be in the K Menu by default anyway, beneath Add/Remove Programs
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> night all, especially you Jucato
[09:13] <unix_infidel> eilker: Vmware Server will do what you want it to do.  It's not great software by any means, its very limited compared to ESX or Xen or even XenE
[09:13] <Schalken> Jucato: my kmenu is still the same as i had configured it in suse
[09:14] <peanutb> ohh my wifi card is alinksys, thats why it dosnt work very well.
[09:14] <Jucato> Schalken: that's weird. it should have these by default beneath Utilties: Add/Remove Programs, Find Files/Folders, Help, System Settings
[09:14] <Jucato> anyway, off to bed for a while.
[09:15] <Schalken> lol, 'for a while'
[09:15] <Jucato> quick nap.
[09:15] <Jucato> quick afternoon nap to subdue my asthma
[09:16] <eilker> unix_infidel: esx is also vmware company product too as i know, do u suggest me to use Xen or XenE ? i can change my mind with your comments...
[09:17] <eilker> !Xen
[09:17] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[09:17] <unix_infidel> eilker: Vmware server will be your most cost efficient solution.
[09:20] <eilker> unix_infidel: i see, may i send you a private msg ?
[09:21] <unix_infidel> eilker: I'd prefer you keep it in the channel as others might benefit from your  questions and comments.
[09:22] <kruemeltee> morsche
[09:22] <eilker> unix_infidel: may be it is not allowed here to ask one of my question, ok no problem :)
[09:24] <eilker> unix_infidel: anyway thank you very much for your help, see you
[09:25] <[Nige] > anyone got ati drivers working with edgy?
[09:40] <sYnie> hey there. am i allowed to use pictures on a homepage, that are under the gpl ? like the icons, coming with KDE ?
[09:40] <crimsun> as long as you cite them.
[09:40] <crimsun> (give credit where credit is due)
[09:41] <sYnie> of course, i'll do.
[09:46] <musya3d> How do i open up ports on a kubuntu system? anyone know?
[09:47] <rerere> unix_infidel: so XEN is free and you can boot xp inside kubuntu?
[09:47] <unix_infidel> rerere: the first part is true, the second part is iffy.
[09:47] <rerere> iffy?
[09:48] <unix_infidel> rerere: google Xen and Windows.
[09:48] <kasim> Hi, is 'qt4-assistant' available in kubuntu edgy? Seems to be missing for qt4-demo.
[09:48] <rerere> thanks already at it
[09:49] <kasim> musya3d: network ports? use python.
[09:50] <Daviey> Does kubuntu edgy use usplash or splashy as the boot splash screen?
[09:51] <rerere> XenSource has succeeded in booting Microsoft Windows on top of Xen software
[09:51] <devinus> I thought that Kubuntu used Firefox by default. What happened?
[09:51] <T3hWiz0rd> can anyone trouble shoot why SWAT wouildn't be working
[09:51] <kasim> rerere: in kubuntu i hope?
[09:52] <rerere> well i will try
[09:53] <rerere> any other solutions to avoid dual booting
[09:53] <rerere> FREE
[09:53] <kasim> rerere: im also interested, so this was more a question?
[09:54] <rerere> yes i will give it a try
[09:54] <devinus> Does anybody know what happened to Firefox in Kubuntu?
[09:54] <kasim> there is dual-boot, wine, qemo, xen, .... nothing is perfect yet imho
[09:54] <musya3d> devinus, nothing it should be there
[09:55] <musya3d> but then agian i installed mine over ubuntu
[09:55] <musya3d> you can get it with apt-get
[09:55] <achmet_> why when i try to enable the nvidia drivers its give me the message (
[09:55] <achmet_>  unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[09:55] <achmet_> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[09:55] <kasim> devinus: firefox is not included in a out-of-the-box kubuntu but can be installed manually
[09:55] <rerere> kubuntu comes without firefox apt-get
[09:56] <musya3d> devinus do this, sudo apt-get install firefox
[09:56] <achmet_> what's wrong with nvidia drivers? why i can't enable them?
[09:56] <devinus> musya3d: will firefox use kde programs for playing video and such?
[09:57] <musya3d> mmm, not sure, what kind of videos?
[09:57] <musya3d> most web based video or games are in java or flash,
[09:58] <T3hWiz0rd> SWAT seems to not start at all
[09:59] <kasim> again: anyone aware of Qt4-Assistant?
[10:02] <family> where do I go to turn off the launch feedback ?
[10:02] <family> where it does the bouncing icon as an app loads ...
[10:03] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: i also gave up on SWAT, after a very short testing time. Dont know what kubuntus default way of Samba-Handling is. I use naked config files ...
[10:07] <family> application startup notification .. thats what I wish to turn off
[10:08] <noiesmo> open system settings go advane then session manager
[10:08] <noiesmo> family, ^^^^
[10:08] <noiesmo> family, open system settings go advance then session manager
[10:09] <noiesmo> doh family it's service manager
[10:09] <pred2k3> hi, will my installed packackes be deleten when I upgrade to edgy?? (ps: how can I see my latest version?)
[10:09] <family> whats it called in there ?
[10:09] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: so swat never worked for you
[10:10] <family> noiesmo: still don't see it
[10:11] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: not immediately, gave up after some minutes. I use smb.conf directly
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: i can't get smb.conf to join my doamin
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> domain
[10:12] <T3hWiz0rd> i want to be able to log into my nt4 domain users
[10:14] <fuzzy> how mount windows partitions in kubuntu?
[10:14] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: so you have an nt4-server running and want to use kubuntu as client? Then use Konqueror with url smc://nt-server/share
[10:14] <ruzle> Dven  flink a :D
[10:14] <fuzzy> jepp ;)
[10:15] <fuzzy> men vil gjerne ha svar  da
[10:15] <fuzzy> :P
[10:15] <ruzle> fr nok svar snart
[10:15] <fuzzy> for jeg begynner  g lei eminem - when i'm gone
[10:15] <fuzzy> :P
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: i want to be able to LOG INTO my domain users
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: not just "Brows" their shares
[10:15] <T3hWiz0rd> log in with them
[10:16] <fuzzy> how mount windows partitions in kubuntu
[10:16] <fuzzy> sjekk loggen din da vel ruzle??
[10:16] <ruzle> looking 4 it
[10:17] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: i dont understand what you mean by 'log into a domain user'?
[10:18] <ruzle> finner faen ikke annet enn logg fra idag
[10:18] <fuzzy> bah
[10:19] <fuzzy> kasim: can you help me? how mount windows partitions in kubuntu?
[10:19] <Fiyawerx> ?? bugs on the floor stop moving
[10:19] <Fiyawerx> nice, wrong chan :)
[10:20] <kasim> fuzzy: you CAN mount (with command 'mount') vfat and ntfs partitions
[10:20] <fuzzy> thx
[10:20] <Jucato> !ntfs
[10:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[10:21] <kasim> fussy: i assume you have those partitions on a dual-boot Kubuntu and Win Box
[10:22] <mike-ekim> Hi guys, i tried going from gnome to Kubuntu-desktop, i installed pacakage KDE, and kubuntu-desktop, and i see many KDE applications, including "Konsole" but it still boots into gnome
[10:22] <mike-ekim> any help with this
[10:22] <kasim> Jucato: what? I have a XP-ntfs partition mounted to my kubuntu FS
[10:22] <ruzle> fuzzy: wget wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:22] <ruzle> no just : wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[10:22] <ruzle> hehe
[10:23] <fuzzy> kasim: i'm totally new with this kubunti thingy.. what i did was formatting the hd windows was on.. installed kubuntu.. and on the other hd i have all the mp3, moovies etc.. i want to find that
[10:23] <ruzle> fuzzy: jeg har funnet ut av det ffs...
[10:23] <fuzzy> kjk
[10:23] <fuzzy> men jeg skjnte ikke hva du mente
[10:23] <ruzle> Se p kompete
[10:24] <kasim> fuzzy: is this mp3-HD formatted with NTFS or vfat|fat32 filesystem? What OS was it?
[10:25] <mike-ekim> can someone please help me with this kubuntu-desktop issue?
[10:25] <kasim> mike-ekim: i did that some time ago and had to DEINSTALL some gnome progs
[10:27] <T3hWiz0rd> so, i've supposedly got my computer successfully joined to my windows domain
[10:27] <T3hWiz0rd> when logging into linux, how do i point it to a domain login?
[10:28] <Jucato> mike-ekim: have you chosen KDE from the Sesssion in the menu at login?
[10:28] <T3hWiz0rd> i know on a mac to log into a domain it would be domainname/user
[10:28] <Seeker`> mike-ekim: Did you change the session you were loggin in to?
[10:29] <mike-ekim> no
[10:29] <mike-ekim> lol
[10:29] <mike-ekim> sec.
[10:29] <mike-ekim> im so stupid sorry giys
[10:29] <mike-ekim> too late
[10:30] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: you want the user-authentication be done by that nt-box?
[10:30] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: yeah so i can log into my domain user when i need to
[10:31] <XVampireX> http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/KTorrent_2_1beta1_has_been_released
[10:31] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: you keep repeating the phrase 'log into my domain user'. Cant you tell in other words what that is for you?
[10:32] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: as in log into my nt users account via linux
[10:32] <T3hWiz0rd> i have user profiles on the nt server that i want to log into. The same profiles i log into via windows.
[10:33] <kasim> T3hWiz0rd: log in with which prog. ssh? Grafical stuff vnc, nx?
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: i want to be able to log into it as an account
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> kasim: the same way a mac can, using the domain account
[10:33] <T3hWiz0rd> this computer needs to be a domain client
[10:34] <T3hWiz0rd> i want to be able to log into the computer using my samba domain user profile
[10:35] <unix_infidel> why in the world would you use smb/cifs to authenticate?
[10:36] <T3hWiz0rd> unix_infidel: because its a network with a domain?
[10:40] <T3hWiz0rd> net rpc says it joined the domain
[10:58] <fuzzy> How can i watch webcam in Kopete?
[11:05] <luca> hi everyone
[11:05] <luca> is anybody using eclipse, by chance?
[11:07] <ubuntu> hello
[11:07] <Seeker`> luca: yes
[11:07] <ubuntu> what up?
[11:07] <luca> Seeker: how would I import a project? I am trying to learn, I am really newbie with the program :)
[11:08] <luca> I am trying to use bioclipse
[11:08] <Seeker`> i dont know what bioclipse is
[11:09] <Seeker`> and where do you want to import a project from?
[11:09] <ubuntu> i dont know this program
[11:09] <luca> http://www.bioclipse.net/ it is something like a project? plugin? I dunno how to define it...
[11:09] <luca> something which should be run in eclipse...?
[11:09] <luca> I am new as I said :(
[11:11] <ubuntu> it's a science software?
[11:11] <Seeker`> have you managed to install bioclipse?
[11:11] <luca> yes perfectly
[11:11] <luca> yes ubuntu
[11:11] <ubuntu> ok
[11:12] <luca> what should I do now?
[11:12] <Seeker`> http://wiki.bioclipse.net/index.php?title=Getting_Started
[11:12] <luca> I have tried to use the executable, and tried to import the zip into the eclipse, but no good :(
[11:13] <ubuntu> im graphic designer
[11:13] <luca> Seeker: problem is I do not get to the first screen
[11:13] <luca> I guess there lots of plugins for your work too :)
[11:14] <rerere> ubuntu: graphic desiner on linux?
[11:14] <luca> should I paste the error message on pastebin?
[11:14] <ubuntu> in mac too
[11:14] <rerere> linux what programes you use?
[11:14] <ubuntu> in linux: gimp. inkspace
[11:14] <Seeker`> luca: Yes
[11:15] <ubuntu> sodipodi
[11:15] <ubuntu> sribus
[11:15] <ubuntu> just freesoftware
[11:16] <rerere> thats what i try but coming from cs2 photoshop and corel draw x3 is quite difficult
[11:17] <luca> url should be this: http://pastebin.com/831205
[11:18] <ubuntu> my web
[11:18] <ubuntu> refritostudio.com
[11:18] <ubuntu> www.refritostudio.com
[11:20] <Seeker`> i dont know what would cause that
[11:20] <ubuntu> hola macro
[11:20] <ubuntu> eres de chile por lo que veo
[11:22] <luca> firstly it would not see the java, so I followed the faq and tried to change the ini - this is what I get :(
[11:23] <linux_> hey all
[11:23] <ubuntu> hi linux
[11:25] <luca> hi
[11:25] <linux_> he ubuntu how long are you into the linux now ?
[11:28] <luca> nothing, there seems to be some problem with java :(
[11:28] <linux_> how can I remote control my windows 2003 server with linux ?
[11:28] <luca> in general, in any case, how would I use an eclipse-generated program or plugin?
[11:31] <devin_> is there a page that describes fiesty fawn and expected features?
[11:31] <devin_> i want kde4 :-D
[11:35] <nikko> Hi to all. I have installed Gnome under Kubuntu. With "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop" can i remove it? Or there is any other way to remove it? Thnaks
[11:40] <luca> nikko: no way
[11:40] <luca> nikko: if you remove only ubuntu-desktop, you will remove nothing from your computer
[11:41] <luca> nikko: maybe aptitude can do the trick, from console, but from synaptic, it is a pain, you have to track the packages manually :(
[11:41] <nikko> luca: Is there any other way?
[11:41] <Brushwell> ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package. It's safe to remove.
[11:42] <luca> not that I am aware of
[11:42] <luca> which does not mean much actually :)
[11:43] <nikko> When you install ubuntu-desktop you can select which enviroment you want. There is the same option when u try to remmove it?
[11:43] <zezelle> salut
[11:43] <zezelle> jai un probleme
[11:44] <defrysk> !fr | zezelle
[11:44] <ubotu> zezelle: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:49] <linux_> my firefox won't play flash ??
[11:49] <linux_> I already have installed diverend things
[11:50] <Jucato> have you install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:52] <XVampireX> !flash | linux_
[11:52] <ubotu> linux_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:52] <linux_> oke thanks guys
[11:52] <XVampireX> Weird, should have given some info on Flash
[11:52] <XVampireX> not just freeformats in general
[11:52] <XVampireX> or restricted
[11:53] <defrysk> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[11:53] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:53] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone got any idea why kubuntu is saying smbfs is not a correct file system type?
[11:54] <Jucato> XVampireX: the instructions for installing flash is in the RestrictedFormats page
[11:54] <velle> hi, I cant find a way to set a keyboard shortcut for changing keyboard layout. Is it possible?
[11:55] <Jucato> velle: System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[11:55] <Jucato> (on Dapper, that would be System Settings -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts)
[11:56] <XVampireX> Jucato: I know, but it should have at least given a direct link, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#flash (Or whatever it was)
[11:57] <Jucato> XVampireX: it's hardly practical to give a specific link for each and every codec/plugin, specially since those specific anchors could change anytime, while the RestrictedFormats page does not (or rarely)
[11:59] <velle> Jucato: thanks :) i have been looking there before, but for some reasons i did not see it in the list
[12:00] <visik7> anyone succeed to get zeroconf working on kde ?
[12:00] <visik7> through zeroconf:/
[12:00] <visik7> anyone succeed to get zeroconf working on kde through zeroconf:/ ?
[12:00] <visik7> sorry
[12:04] <cntb> bbl
[12:04] <eilker> lets say i have two users, first is x, second is y, what happens if igive this command "sudo adduser x y"
[12:12] <teledyn> god i hate konqerrror
[12:12] <Jucato> ?
[12:13] <teledyn> how the heck to i get it to stop automounting /media/cdrom0?  i don't even have an entry for it in fstab but konqerror goes and does its own thing anyway
[12:13] <eilker> !tee
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: look in kcontrol
[12:13] <teledyn> there's a "mounting" tab in the properties thing if you right click it, but its greyed out
[12:14] <kuoke> fedora core 6 rulz
[12:14] <teledyn> kcontrol -> Disks and Filesystems is just a glorified front-end to edit /etc/fstab
[12:15] <kuoke> !fedora
[12:15] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[12:15] <defrysk> teledyn, settings > controlcenter >peripherals > storage media > advanced tab > turn enable blah blah off
[12:15] <Jucato> it's hardly Konqueror's fault, though. there might be something amiss in fstab, or in the control module that defrysk pointed out
[12:16] <teledyn> defrysk: thanks
[12:16] <defrysk> teledyn, stop hating ;)
[12:16] <Jucato> Konqueror itself does not automount anything
[12:16] <teledyn> defrysk: i want to :-)
[12:16] <defrysk> ;p
[12:17] <teledyn> defrysk: its been a bad day.  i did have to build my own kernel because of a couple bugs with the stock ubuntu 2.6.17 generic
[12:17] <defrysk> teledyn, control center is your friend :)
[12:17] <teledyn> defrysk: that must be why its not in the ubuntu menu by default?
[12:17] <defrysk> it is in mine
[12:17] <defrysk> setting > controlcenter
[12:17] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: look under storage media
[12:18] <Jucato> System Settings -> Notifications -> Storage Media Notifications
[12:18] <teledyn> defrysk: in the Storage Media Advanced tab there's only one box: Enable medium application...   the other 2 are selected but greyed out
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: under peripherals
[12:18] <teledyn> i'm in kcontrol as root
[12:18] <Jucato> defrysk: KControl or the Settings menu is not enabled in Kubuntu K Menu by default
[12:18] <Jucato> you don't need to be root afaik
[12:19] <defrysk> hmmm
[12:19] <teledyn> either way the options are greyed out
[12:19] <defrysk> Jucato, thats not good i thiink
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: bet cd polling is active
[12:19] <Jucato> defrysk: why? System Settings is already there anyway
[12:19] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: it is but i can't dselect it
[12:19] <Jucato> note: I don't want to get into a System Settings vs KControl discussion right now
[12:19] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: sudo kcontrol
[12:20] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: read above.  that's what i'm doing.
[12:22] <Linux_Galore> sounds like a service is mounting the device
[12:23] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: kdesu, please
[12:23] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: right now the media is ejected
[12:23] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: dont forget fstab is an old init thing Ubuntu doesnt use init
[12:24] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: really?  I didn't know that.   what does it use instead?
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> upstart
[12:24] <teledyn> wow.  thanks for that info.
[12:24] <Jucato> but it still uses fstab
[12:24] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yes but once it up from what Im reading it doesnt really need the fstab anymore
[12:25] <Jucato> or are you talking about the UUID stuff?
[12:25] <teledyn> Jucato: but konqueror ignored my fstab entry for /dev/hdc including the mount point i set and did its own thing
[12:26] <Jucato> hm... wish I had more time to help. but gtg
[12:26] <Jucato> but if you guys are still around in around 45 minutes, I'll try to help again
[12:26] <Jucato> it would be good to pastebin your fstab to let others check
[12:26] <teledyn> /dev/hdc        /cdrom   udf,iso9660 unhide,user,noauto     0       0
[12:27] <teledyn> but konqerror mounts it at /media/cdrom0
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: put a # in front of it
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: aaah
[12:27] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: i tried that too
[12:27] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: yeah thats normal
[12:28] <teledyn> i think this is a konqueror issue unrelated to fstab
[12:29] <T3hWiz0rd> can someone explain to me why kubuntu will NOT. for the life of it, automount a samba drive in fstab
[12:29] <teledyn> well its not the end of the world.  the real show stopper earlier was the buggy 2.6.17 generic kernel which was giving sense erorrs on /dev/hdc and spewing in syslog about not being able to mount blank media
[12:30] <teledyn> my 2.6.18 custom fixed that plus an ACPI error
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: if you mount it under /cdrom konqueror wont see it
[12:30] <teledyn> Linux_Galore: that would be perfectly fine with me.
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> teledyn: konqueror only sees /home /media  as a user
[12:30] <teledyn> in fact, preferable
[12:31] <teledyn> oh that's not good
[12:31] <teledyn> yeah i noticed that under ubuntu.  i just switched from sid not long ago.
[12:31] <Linux_Galore> theres a file under ~/.kde  to set the security
[12:31] <teledyn> i wish there were something like sid but a bit more tested and less unstable
[12:33] <teledyn> too bad debian is so badly managed that its spawned a zillion forks
[12:37] <teledyn> UseSecurityManager=true in konquerorrc   but that's all i can find.  setting it to false doesn't seem to have any effect.
[12:42] <xpoint> !apcupsd
[12:42] <ubotu> apcupsd: APC UPS Power Management. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.12.3-1 (edgy), package size 295 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[12:43] <xpoint> no howto :(
[12:43] <kuoke> lol
[12:44] <octan> xpoint, for howto try google :P
[12:44] <xpoint> i have apcupsd running as server on my gentoo box as master, but i like to add it to my ubuntu as client, problem for me is that the ubuntu is compiled without nis
[12:44] <octan> or the wiki
[12:44] <octan> !wiki
[12:44] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:45] <jerod> hallo
[12:45] <octan> hi
[12:45] <jerod> wie war eigentlich noch der name fr deutsche kubuntu hilfe
[12:45] <jerod> des chatraums
[12:46] <octan> !ubuntu.de
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu.de - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <octan> erm
[12:46] <xpoint> octan: there should be a way to be here
[12:46] <octan> !wiki apcupsd
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki apcupsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <octan> nop
[12:46] <octan> jerod english pls
[12:46] <jerod> can anybody help me  i need the roomname from the german help for kubuntu
[12:48] <Alter-Ego> !german
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <fabioFx> hi.. how to alternate workspace in kde (edgy)? with Ctrl+TAB does not function :(
[12:49] <apokryphos> it should... if not, change the shortcut from the system settings
[12:50] <fabioFx> thank's
[12:52] <MARTA> ubuntu edgy wont see on new lg core duo notebook  wired netcard RT8168/8111 . what is the cure ?
[12:53] <xpoint> octan: google is not nice here
[12:54] <octan> google is on you webbrowse .. last time i checked it was. www.google.com/linux :)
[12:54] <xpoint> octan: /etc/init.d/apcupsd start gives error cant connect to 127.0.0.1 port 3551
[12:55] <teledyn> jerod: vielleicht kubuntu-de
[12:56] <fuzzy> how can i watch webcam in the kopete msn thingy?
[01:01] <wildchild> !terminatorx
[01:01] <ubotu> terminatorx: A realtime audio synthesizer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.82-7ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 326 kB, installed size 1300 kB
[01:02] <fuzzy> !amsn
[01:02] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[01:11] <Azzco> Hello I've got a small problem here... I've got the 1.42 version of Zsnes but I want to dowgrade to 1.36 due to some new problems in it... how do I do that with adept?
[01:16] <[GuS] > Bonjour tout le monde...
[01:24] <larsivi> are anyone experiencing crashes (in KDE apps, mainly konqui and kopete) that seems to originate in QPixmap ?
[01:25] <fuzzy> can anyone help me with telling me howto install a webcam?
[01:36] <ermak> i am using kubuntu 6.10, everywhere fonts are just perfect (i have installed msttcorefonts), but in openoffice fonts are ugly and i don't know how to change them, can anyone help me, please?
[01:40] <fribuntu> Hi all
[01:51] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hi
[01:57] <gtwy> happy thanksgiving
[02:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when is thanksgiving ?
[02:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what is it ? only us has it dont they ?
[02:04] <Skrot-> Th3_Cr0up13R: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=thanksgiving
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Skrot-: i was saying like y do they have to do something like that?
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> usually only in america is big
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and give thanx to what for what
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ?
[02:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you know what i mean ?
[02:12] <Skrot-> Read the wikipedia article, I'm not from the US so I don't know :)
[02:12] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehehe
[02:12] <Th3_Cr0up13R> me neither
[02:12] <gtwy> Th3_Cr0up13R: when the first settlers in america came here
[02:12] <gtwy> it was rough and people died alot
[02:12] <ZmAY> hello.. yesterday i switched my picture on 2 displays (TV as second display), now when i reboot system i cant go into system, instead of login screen there shows only kubuntu logo and stops.. on second display appars nothing, any help??
[02:13] <Jucato> it's beyond us to question countries' holidays... and hardly the channel to talk about it.
[02:13] <Jucato> don't mind me... :P
[02:13] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe do you want us to stop Jucato
[02:13] <gtwy> but after they had made initial peace with the indians and were starting to learn how to grow crops and live here they gave thanks
[02:13] <maverick> am wondering did anybody here successfuly install matlab on edgy
[02:13] <maverick> wiz everything working fine
[02:13] <maverick> ?
[02:14] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: just don't forget to check once in a while if someone's question has been overlooked :)
[02:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sounds good for what 500 years ago
[02:14] <fuzzy> can anyone tell me how to install quickcam? i've found the driver. tar.gz file.. but i'm n00b with this so i don't know how to install
[02:14] <gtwy> i was wondering the other day, which repository do i have to add to my list to install kismet ?
[02:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: what do you mean
[02:16] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: I mean that some valid Kubuntu-support question might be overlooked or buried with offtopic discussion
[02:16] <Jucato> which is why offtopic is usually discouraged
[02:16] <gnomefreak> gtwy: universe repo
[02:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: you are right, i am sorry
[02:16] <gtwy> gnomefreak: so i just add "univserse" after the url then, correct?
[02:17] <gtwy> if not ill just google it further
[02:17] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i just wanted to make conversation since noone was speaking at the time
[02:17] <maverick> So, no matlab users here
[02:17] <gnomefreak> !repos | gtwy
[02:17] <maverick> ?
[02:17] <ubotu> gtwy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <gtwy> :) thanks
[02:17] <gnomefreak> read that link ;)
[02:17] <maverick> So, no matlab users here?
[02:17] <tim_flatus> Hi, I've been trying to install kubuntu on a machine that originally had ubuntu hoary installed. Is the upgrade path known to be broken?
[02:17] <ZmAY> anyone here for display (Xorg) help?
[02:18] <tim_flatus> ZmAY, no, but I may be having similar problems. ;)
[02:18] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: maybe a little.  you'll have to upgrade hoary --> breezy --> dapper --> edgy though
[02:18] <ZmAY> did u read my problem
[02:18] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: so it's rpobably easier to download a cd
[02:18] <visik7> !zeroconf
[02:18] <ubotu> zeroconf: IPv4 link-local address allocator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 132 kB
[02:19] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, I guessed you would say that. I've gone hoary -> Breezy -> Dapper so far and now have broken xorg.
[02:19] <scheuri> hi all
[02:19] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: why's it broken?
[02:19] <ZmAY> maybe if someone know how to access Xorg.conf file?
[02:20] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, claims not to able to find keyboard and mouse modules, although they're clearly installed.
[02:20] <Hobbsee> hrm
[02:20] <Hobbsee> ZmAY: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:20] <larsivi> are anyone experiencing crashes in QPixmap (in Konqueror, Kopete, etc) with Kubuntu 6.10 ?
[02:21] <ZmAY> brb
[02:23] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, I think half my problem is that I'm used to the Debian way of doing things and I'm not up to speed on the Ubuntu approach. BTW I'm basically setting up a machine for a computer virgin who wants kastrolog. I thought a K/ubuntu system would be easier.
[02:24] <tim_flatus> Probably will be once I've figured out how to install it properly.
[02:24] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: true, but X shouldnt break.  debian should handle it more or less the same way, too
[02:25] <tim_flatus> Hobbsee, that's what I thought.
[02:26] <tim_flatus> Maybe a driver issue with this particular video card :(S3 virge):
[02:26] <gtwy> what graphics card?
[02:26] <fuzzy> how come I can't run Amsn.. it starts loading, and then it just stops and disappears
[02:27] <tim_flatus> gtwy, you asking me? S3 virge
[02:27] <gtwy> i am not sure on ubuntu, but when i put gentoo on my amd64bit i had to recompile the kernel with modules enabled and download, compile and install the nvidia driver
[02:27] <gtwy> hmm not sure about S3
[02:28] <tim_flatus> gtwy, Hobbsee, I don't think I'm really asking the right questions. I'll come back in a bit.
[02:28] <gtwy> sorry i couldnt help
[02:28] <guiden> hello
[02:29] <tim_flatus> gtwy, np. Thanks for trying. ;)
[02:30] <guiden> anyone who knows a good guide to make the 3d acceleration for my ati radeon 9800 pro card to work properly?
[02:30] <Hobbsee> tim_flatus: i'd just clean install edgy on it.  that's probably safest.  however, dist-upgrades are mostly supported
[02:30] <Hobbsee> !ati | guiden
[02:30] <ubotu> guiden: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:31] <Momal> !mp3
[02:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:31] <guiden> uboto: thanks
[02:32] <guiden> ubotu*
[02:32] <gtwy> on this repository guide it is saing to use dapper-commercial main... actually a lot of the links say dapper, was that the last release?
[02:33] <gtwy> because all mine say edgy, which i know is the current release
[02:33] <gtwy> and it's telling me to add "dapper-commercial", but i feel i should be adding edgy-commercial
[02:34] <_al_> gtwy: if you use edgy add edgy-commercial
[02:35] <Momal> HELP! K3b wont let me make an audio cd when i drag in mp3s it says its an unsupported format but the mp3's play in amarok and other media players fine. I used to beable to make audio cds but for some reason just now I can't :S
[02:35] <Jucato> although edgy-commercial is practically empty
[02:35] <Jucato> Momal: do you have lame installed?
[02:35] <gtwy> would it mess anything up if i added dapper since edgy is empty?
[02:36] <Jucato> not really sure
[02:36] <Momal> Jucato: yes its installed
[02:36] <smoenux> is anyone here using Kopete for the Jabber protocol on Google Chat? I cannot get mine to work
[02:36] <Jucato> Momal: oops wrong package. you're trying to burn an audio cd right?
[02:37] <tim_flatus> Actually, one of the reasons I'm trying to avoid CD install is that I'm having problems burning CDs. Is it possible to mount the ISO directly from the hard drive somehow and install from that?
[02:37] <Jucato> smoenux: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[02:37] <Momal> Jucato: yea so I can use it in normal cd players :)
[02:37] <Jucato> Momal: you need libk3b2-mp3
[02:37] <Jucato> !libk3b2-mp3
[02:37] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[02:38] <smoenux> Thanks Jucato
[02:39] <defrysk> Momal, read : https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/burning-cds.html
[02:39] <Momal> Jucato: thanks it worked :D... weird I how it got removed.. I have burnted an audio cd before :S.
[02:39] <gtwy> who is having problems with google chat?
[02:42] <guiden> I can't become root
[02:42] <guiden> I never made a root account
[02:43] <Jucato> !sudo | guiden
[02:43] <ubotu> guiden: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:43] <guiden> ubotu: ok
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <Jucato> guiden: ubotu is a bot :)
[02:44] <guiden> haha what a good bot :)
[02:44] <scheuri> aye, he is nice...
[02:44] <scheuri> !cookie
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <scheuri> hm
[02:44] <gtwy> http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[02:44] <scheuri> but does not accept cookies from strangers...
[02:44] <guiden> He already given me two usefull webpages
[02:44] <jpatrick> scheuri: biscuits, FTW
[02:45] <scheuri> jpatrick: ah, right...;)
[02:46] <Jucato> !botsnack
[02:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:46] <Jucato> scheuri: ^^^^^
[02:46] <smoenux> LMAO
[02:46] <scheuri> riiiight...but still...does not take cookies from strangers...;)
[02:46] <smoenux> oops... soz caps
[02:46] <guiden> How big is ubotu's script code? It must be huge if it's that "ntelligent"
[02:47] <Jucato> !ubotu | guiden
[02:47] <ubotu> guiden: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:47] <guiden> cool,
[02:49] <guiden> Is the kubuntu dist like an "outsider" or is the user like anyone who is using ubuntu generally?
[02:50] <gtwy> arent all us linux users outsiders ;)
[02:50] <DaSkreech> Does the Live CD come with LVM support?
[02:51] <Healot> iirc, no DaSkreech
[02:51] <guiden> Hehe I guess so ^o-o^
[02:52] <DaSkreech> great. So the CD is useless :(
[02:52] <gtwy> i have been using linux as a server OS since 1997, and honestly i am very very impressed with ubuntu/kubuntu as a desktop os.
[02:53] <DaSkreech> gtwy: Great spread the word!
[02:53] <DaSkreech> gtwy: Never mind just spread the CDs :-)
[02:53] <fuzzy> can anyone help me with a small issue?
[02:53] <fuzzy> how can i watch other peoples webcam in kopete?
[02:53] <defrysk> !anyone | fuzzy
[02:53] <ubotu> fuzzy: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:54] <fuzzy> jeje
[02:54] <defrysk> hehe
[02:54] <fuzzy> can you help me or not
[02:54] <gtwy> fuzzy: we'll never know if we don't know what's wrong
[02:54] <guiden> Well the only thing I'm not impressed of is the ammount of software available, the adept installer doen't have much programs, or have I missed something?
[02:54] <gtwy> eh use the package manager
[02:55] <DaSkreech> fuzzy: What protocol?
[02:55] <guiden> isnt't the adept installer the package manager?
[02:55] <fuzzy> hey i'm n00b.. talk english :P hehe
[02:55] <angasule> I believe nvidia has released new drivers and now the beta drivers are no longer needed to use AIGLX? I haven't installed Edgy yet to check, but if I'm right https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX needs to be updated
[02:55] <fuzzy> msn i guess if that was the question
[02:56] <gtwy> guiden: sure, but i figured you meant going though "add remove programs" because there is significantly less that way
[02:56] <DaSkreech> fuzzy: Ah I think there is a entry in the menus
[02:56] <gtwy> which programs are missing that you want? although i noticed 2 apps i wanted didnt exist, but it may be from legal issues
[02:56] <fuzzy> tried to find out.. looked everywhere in the menus.. :/ no such thing =/
[02:57] <fuzzy> DaSkreech: i can accept invites etc, but no picture comes up
[02:57] <DaSkreech> Ahh ok :)
[02:57] <gtwy> fuzzy: use kopete its an instant messenger that can do msn
[02:57] <DaSkreech> You could ask in #kopete
[02:57] <fuzzy> gtwy: i use kopete...
[02:57] <fuzzy> but i need to figure out how to view other peoples cam
[02:58] <gtwy> oh, got a little behind in the chat didn't realize that
[02:58] <fuzzy> ;)
[02:58] <angasule> fuzzy: you're on edgy? I was planning on installing edgy mainly because it should support msn webcams
[02:58] <fuzzy> do you know how to view the cams?
[02:58] <fuzzy> angasule:  i'm on edgy
[02:58] <Jucato> !webcam
[02:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[02:59] <angasule> fuzzy: and have you tried watching someone else's webcam? or just tried to send yours?
[02:59] <DaSkreech> angasule: someone else's I'd bet
[02:59] <fuzzy> yup.. tried several times.. but nothing happens
[02:59] <fuzzy> i accept the invite but theres nothing happening
[03:00] <gtwy> could issues with webcam be related to firewalls?
[03:00] <angasule> gtwy: I'm pretty sure it is, yes
[03:00] <angasule> I think msn's webcam is not NAT friendly
[03:00] <gtwy> fuzzy: figure out what port its on and forward that port to your computer
[03:01] <gtwy> and then send an invite
[03:01] <fuzzy> ok, that tells me nothing.. :P this is my first day using other things than windows :P hehe
[03:01] <gtwy> fuzzy: this would be something you would do on your router
[03:01] <guiden> How do I know which version of KDE I'm using?
[03:02] <gtwy> fuzzy: did msn webcam work when you were on windows fine?
[03:02] <angasule> guiden: pretty much all KDE programs have an 'about KDE' in the help menu
[03:02] <DaSkreech> guiden: open some random app and look under help
[03:02] <fuzzy> kk... i opened up several ports on my router.. but how can i find out what port the cam is on?
[03:02] <fuzzy> yes webcam worked perfectly
[03:02] <gtwy> google
[03:02] <gtwy> hmm if it worked fine before then it may not be the router
[03:02] <fuzzy> ok
[03:02] <Don-XY> Hallo everyone
[03:03] <gtwy> the people you tried to use it with, were they the same people you used it with before?
[03:03] <Don-XY> How are you doing?
[03:03] <Don-XY> I need some help, I` newbie man
[03:03] <guiden> But it said on the kubuntu page that it has kde 4, I only have 3.5.5 I'm maybe out of date
[03:03] <DaSkreech> guiden: read it again :)
[03:03] <DaSkreech> You'll find the word Preview changes a lot
[03:03] <angasule> guiden: KDE4 is not out yet, there is a developer snapshot, and you don't want that
[03:04] <Don-XY> I used this sudo command tom mkdir /usr/java
[03:04] <guiden> aha ok
[03:05] <fuzzy> gtwy: ifi ts not the router, how can i get it to work? i don't care if my cam works, but others
[03:05] <Don-XY> when I try this :sudo cp jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin /usr/java
[03:05] <k_osh> configure cups without kde installed. is there a cli-tool?
[03:05] <gtwy> fuzzy: here is why i ask. if you are connecting with people you connected to before without having to configure your router, it means THEY configured their router
[03:06] <gtwy> fuzzy: so if you are connecting with someone new now, it may not work because they might also have not configured their router
[03:06] <gtwy> fuzzy: so if two people are trying to connect to each other but neither can accept incoming connections it will fail
[03:06] <Don-XY> I get this output: cp: cannot stat `jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[03:06] <fuzzy> kk... but I connect to people i'ce connected to before.. and they haven't changed anything
[03:06] <Don-XY> what can I do?
[03:07] <gtwy> did you install the webcam packages?
[03:07] <defrysk> Don-XY, install java-package
[03:07] <defrysk> and make an installable .deb
[03:07] <Don-XY> on package manager?
[03:07] <fuzzy> gtwy: webcam packages at the hardware support site?
[03:07] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install java-package
[03:08] <Healot> Don-XY: the file isn't on the pwd, dude
[03:08] <defrysk> Don-XY, read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76735 for info and further howto
[03:09] <gtwy> fuzzy: im not sure if it would be through the package manager or through the hardware manufacture, but try the package manager first
[03:09] <defrysk> Don-XY, it explains for udate 6 but for update 9 is same only different version
[03:09] <defrysk> update*
[03:09] <gtwy> fuzzy: i am out of here, check out google "kopete msn webcam"
[03:09] <fuzzy> ok.. that's through add/remove programs right?
[03:09] <fuzzy> kk.. thx for the help =)
[03:10] <Don-XY> derysk-- ok
[03:10] <Healot> jre-1_5_0_09-linux-i586.bin >> the file isnot on your current directory, Don-XY; that's why
[03:10] <gtwy> no go up to system and click on adept package manager
[03:10] <defrysk> Don-XY, just make sure to download the .bin, not the rpm
[03:10] <defrysk> Don-XY, also install fakeroot
[03:10] <defrysk> and futher follow the website's instructions
[03:10] <defrysk> further*
[03:11] <defrysk> and install java-common
[03:11] <Healot> the only thing he missed the location of that file, there is not need to install java-package etc. etc. fun huh?
[03:11] <defrysk> its all in the howto anyway :)
[03:11] <angasule> fuzzy: btw, do you have the same IP in linux as you do in windows?
[03:12] <angasule> fuzzy: if you have DHCP on linux and a static IP on windows, then your router is sending the incoming webcam stuff to oblivion
[03:12] <defrysk> Healot, its always better to make a .deb imho
[03:13] <guiden> My ati radeon card still doesn't work
[03:13] <fuzzy> angasule: haven't checked... is it the same way to check as in windows?
[03:13] <Healot> not really, you made things complicated, and all his prob was the wrong path/location ...
[03:13] <guiden> I followed the guide that ubotu gave me and rebooted X (lost the page)
[03:13] <XVampireX> fuzzy: in windows it's ipconfig
[03:14] <Healot> but hety anyways, either ways works
[03:14] <fuzzy> got the same ip...
[03:14] <defrysk> Healot, whatever works L:)
[03:14] <BluesKaj> i'm still trying to find a fix for the google earth GUI refresh problem with ATI ...anyone experiencing this ?
[03:14] <angasule> fuzzy: well, it was worth checking :)
[03:14] <fuzzy> :)
[03:15] <fuzzy> angasule: you know about any other reasons why i can't view cams?
[03:15] <angasule> fuzzy: oh, btw, try using aMSN to receive webcam, it works for me, and that way you can discard routing issues (I wouldn't recommend switching to aMSN, it's ugly as... MSN ;) )
[03:15] <fuzzy> hehe
[03:15] <jake> hello, does anybody know the best processor optimization setting for a 64 bit Sempron?
[03:16] <angasule> fuzzy: ask me later, I'm installing edgy as soon as I clear enough space on my hard disk, I'm tired of switching to amsn every time my girlfriend has a webcam available
[03:16] <fuzzy> angasule:  i tried that.. i installed aMSN, but when i started it, it started loading, and then it just stopped and disappeared
[03:16] <fuzzy> hehe
[03:16] <Healot> it's k8-amd64 kernel, jake
[03:16] <fuzzy> that's why i want webcam to work :P
[03:17] <jake> I mean for make
[03:17] <phoneseeker> hello, I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.10 on a Pentium III Coppermine 863Mhz. But when I boot the liveCD and select the option "run or install kubuntu", kubuntu loads itself (very slow), and does not offer me the possibility to start an install. How do I install kubuntu on the hard drive?
[03:17] <angasule> phoneseeker: do you see an 'install' icon on the desktop after the LiveCD has booted?
[03:17] <phoneseeker> no, the desktop is empty
[03:17] <jake> in my etc/enviorment
[03:17] <angasule> phoneseeker: how much ram does that computer have?
[03:18] <phoneseeker> I don't know, but I guess not much, 64 or 126, how can I find out?
[03:18] <angasule> fuzzy: I share your pain! hopefully I'll have edgy in less than 24 hours, in fact most of the stuff I have to remove from my HDD is anime for my girlfriend
[03:19] <Healot> jake: if you're a 32-bit version, compile it to k7 arch, if you're in a 64-bit >> k8... make xconfig to see the optimization/other kernel options
[03:19] <fuzzy> kk ;D i'll try to hang on ;) in the mean while i'll try to figure out howto get aMSN work
[03:19] <angasule> phoneseeker: if you run 'top' in a console, the fourth line says "Mem: SOMENUMBER", SOMENUMBER is how much RAM you have (you can quit top by pressing 'q')
[03:20] <jake> phoneseeker, there should be an icon on your desktop to start the install, if you have the bandwidth I recomend the alternate cd it will work a lot faster.
[03:20] <angasule> phoneseeker: by the way, 128 is not enough, I would say, my parents' computer has 256 and it's kind of slow
[03:21] <phoneseeker> the thing is so slow I can't select the menu to get a console
[03:22] <fuzzy> angasule: can I get your msn in case i can't figure it out..
[03:22] <Schalken> are common bootsplash themes installable on kubuntu?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> yes phoneseeker ,I tried kubuntu on wifey's 366mhz HP with 256 Ram and it was like molasses...
[03:22] <jake> not for compiling kernel but for compiling packages from source I read an article UDSF on setting my cflags by editing my /etc/enviorment and adding the opt's I want, similar to the way Gentoo does it
[03:22] <cntb> anyone uses printer xerox phasssssr 31xx ? 3122 for example?
[03:23] <phoneseeker> but this computer was running a windows xp with no sweat...
[03:23] <angasule> BluesKaj: 366? ouch but Pentium3 was a nice CPU
[03:23] <BluesKaj> phoneseeker, your CPU speed is fast enuff but you should seriously think about upgrading memory to at least 512
[03:24] <cntb> I love that kde accepts on run command the convention \\pc1 and takes me to konqueror's smb://pc1
[03:24] <meduxa> hi , today mEDUXa has been presented, the edu distro of the canary islands local goverment (in spain). more info here: http://www.grupocpd.com/archivos_documentos/info_meduxa/index_html/document_view
[03:24] <meduxa> it is based on kubuntu
[03:24] <BluesKaj> angasule, wifey runs XP SP2 on it with reasonable speed ")
[03:24] <angasule> phoneseeker: you should install a different linux distribution, not kubuntu, kubuntu is for less ancient PCs, I'm not sure what distro I'd recommend for a desktop computer with so little memory
[03:24] <jake> Windows Xp is 5 years old and was designed with your proc in mind, if you can just get Linux running in some form you can build your own kernel for it then it will be pretty good.  you can find pc133 ram on ebay pretty cheap sometimes
[03:25] <angasule> BluesKaj: what, winXP Starter Edition? :P
[03:25] <phoneseeker> humm, so it will be more complicated than I thought...
[03:25] <BluesKaj> service pack 2
[03:25] <meduxa> I'm the coordinator of the companies that develop the distro so if you want to ask something....feel free: abenito@grupocpd.com or eslic@ejerciciosresueltos.com
[03:25] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:26] <cntb> muy bien meduxa
[03:26] <jake> phoneseeker, if you are a newb wanting to learn linux I recomend Slackware+ the Slackbook It will run like a top on your box and provide some learning oppurtunities as well
[03:26] <angasule> just kidding, my sisters are running winXP on a P3 550 w/128 and it works well, but I'd rather use DOS heh
[03:26] <cntb> angasule: xP on 128 is a torture
[03:26] <angasule> phoneseeker: what do you want linux for? learning? every day use?
[03:26] <BluesKaj> ana there is an ubuntu edition which requires much lower specs , but i forget the name
[03:26] <phoneseeker> jacke: thanks, but I just wanted to reservice an old computer for another user
[03:27] <fdoving> BluesKaj: xubuntu
[03:27] <phoneseeker> to do normal text writing, internet, music
[03:27] <phoneseeker> nothing fancy
[03:27] <angasule> cntb: well, they had a pentium 166 mmx with 32MB before that
[03:27] <fuzzy> angasule: what about kmess and tmsnc ? you think it will work with them?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> right fdoving, i wonder if it will run on phoneseeker's low mem pc
[03:27] <cntb> rather modest anga
[03:27] <defrysk> angasule, I used that once :D
[03:28] <jake> Slackware will do that too.  It ain't bad you can dl Dropline Gnome for it if you'd rather have gnome  than KDE
[03:28] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: Well Duh :)
[03:28] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: One nice thing about Linux is you can configure it to run on old systems if you want
[03:28] <angasule> fuzzy: sorry I didn't reply, I'm never on msn, unless my girlfriend is on, in which case I won't reply to anybody else, but you can find me here often
[03:28] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: But at that time I was using Linspire and really had no idea that was the problem
[03:28] <DaSkreech> You can also configure it to murder the best machine you can buy
[03:28] <angasule> fuzzy: I have never used kmess and tmsnc, first time I hear of them, actually :?
[03:29] <phoneseeker> Dropline Gnome? i will look for that. But isn't slackware a paint to install? I wanted something simple, kind of knoppix, which just lets itself be installed and one can forget about it
[03:29] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: try deli or Vector linux
[03:29] <fuzzy> okei.. i just found them :P i'll give'm a try :)
[03:29] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: That machine is long past dead now
[03:29] <DaSkreech> SeanTater: try the Ubuntu Christian editon on it then?
[03:29] <cntb> !katapult
[03:29] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:29] <angasule> the guy who made ututo-e (the first 100% FSF aproved distro) had KDE3.x running on a 486 when I met him, amazing stuff :D
[03:30] <phoneseeker> ok, I could find that I have 126 MB on this computer, with the top command
[03:30] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech ! ...It worked , thx for the help yesterday :)
[03:30] <jake> phoneseekeer the steps neccessary are similar to installing Breezy.  DL the Slackbook and read it, The slack motto is Simplicity and that is how it works.
[03:30] <SeanTater> DaSkreech: har har har
[03:30] <angasule> phoneseeker: hmm, you should look for a light desktop distro, I wouldn't know what to recommend that's not old, though
[03:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Yup no problem
[03:31] <cntb> wow I love katapult
[03:31] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: No idea what happened but you deleted everythign in /sbin
[03:31] <angasule> phoneseeker: slackware is great, if you're into masochism
[03:31] <DaSkreech> cntb: Yeah so do I
[03:31] <jake> research a package called slackpkg its works similar to apt and will dl and install what you need
[03:31] <angasule> cntb: it's the best :)
[03:31] <phoneseeker> humm, I'm afraid of slackware, I would like a working system, not a system that needs hours of work to get configured...
[03:32] <jake> Zenwalk is another nice distro its based on Slack but with xfce as a Desktop
[03:32] <phoneseeker> I mean, it's not for me, but someone else's computer, I can't afford to spend hours on it
[03:32] <defrysk> zenwalk is a pain
[03:33] <angasule> has anyone tried Damn Small Linux? it's very light, but I don't know how hard/easy to manage it is
[03:33] <jake> Read the book first and you will be prepared, I can go from clean install to ati,limewire,slackpkg,grub in about an hour
[03:33] <angasule> phoneseeker: how does that computer connect to internet?
[03:33] <BluesKaj> I'm surprised at such low mem specs on a P3 box
[03:33] <phoneseeker> yes, it has broadband connection to the net
[03:33] <angasule> BluesKaj: that's normal, my p3 was 128MB as well
[03:34] <BluesKaj> really?
[03:34] <angasule> phoneseeker: through a USB ADSL modem?
[03:34] <phoneseeker> yep
[03:34] <BluesKaj>  wow wife's pc is 7 yrs old and it came with 128
[03:34] <angasule> BluesKaj: no, I made it up, it had actually a fairy with photographic memory :P
[03:34] <BluesKaj> lLOL:)
[03:35] <BluesKaj> good one :)
[03:35] <angasule> phoneseeker: you might want to check if the USB modem is supported, if it isn't, then linux is probably not a choice, same with the rest of the hardware
[03:35] <jake> anybody got an answer about my make question
[03:35] <phoneseeker> well, actually knoppix works fine with it
[03:35] <angasule> BluesKaj: well, pentium 3 would be like 7 years old, wouldn't it?
[03:36] <phoneseeker> or at least an old knoppix
[03:36] <angasule> jake: 42
[03:36] <phoneseeker> connection to the internet is not an issue
[03:36] <angasule> jake: what was your question?
[03:36] <angasule> phoneseeker: ok, cool, and why don't you use that knoppix, then?
[03:36] <jake> I need the best proc optimization for a 64 bit Sempron
[03:36] <BluesKaj> P3 @ 366mhz  was sota in 99
[03:37] <angasule> jake: you might want to try gentoo or something like that, then?
[03:37] <phoneseeker> well, I'm afraid the new knoppix is too slow, just like kubuntu, and I thought kubuntu would work
[03:37] <angasule> BluesKaj: 'sota'?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> state of the art
[03:37] <phoneseeker> I think I will go for dam small linux, or puppy linux
[03:37] <angasule> phoneseeker: kubuntu is not a light distro, at all
[03:38] <phoneseeker> angasule: I see
[03:38] <jake> no, there is way via editing the /etc/enviorment file there is a howto on The Dapper custom guide
[03:38] <angasule> BluesKaj: oh, I'm a bit fuzzy about dates and such
[03:38] <BluesKaj> actually , i'm wrong angasule.. wifey's pc is a P2
[03:39] <phoneseeker> yep, this p3 is from 2000
[03:40] <BluesKaj> anyway , I think phoneseeker came to the right place before installing linux on an memory "challenged" pc
[03:40] <angasule> well, phoneseeker, just so you don't feel too bad, recently I had to find a distro for a 486 with 8MB of RAM and a Hercules video card (taken from a 286)
[03:40] <jake> I want to recompile my whole system optimized to my hardware
[03:40] <cntb> !printing | cntb
[03:40] <ubotu> cntb: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
 Do you can help me fixe sound card driver on my system?
[03:41] <angasule> jake: then use gentoo or some other source distro
[03:41] <phoneseeker> angasule: I understand your pain... what did you use in the end?
[03:41] <angasule> phoneseeker: a hammer
[03:41] <defrysk> Don-XY, maybe but I am not a specialist in that
[03:41] <jake> I wanna do it on Ubuntu, I think it can be done
[03:41] <phoneseeker> angasule: I'm afraid it's an option I cannot take ;-)
[03:42] <defrysk> Don-XY, no sound at all ?
[03:42] <angasule> phoneseeker: no, actually, I found a one diskette distro, since I couldn't get the hard drive to work, got tired of the whole thing and put the pc in a closet with other forgotten things
[03:42] <Don-XY>  <defrysk>my kubuntu is not detecting the sound card
[03:42] <Healot> jake: it can, and it'll take some patient and D-I-Y
[03:42] <Don-XY> not at all
[03:42] <phoneseeker> angasule: it's a sad story, then...
[03:42] <bartek_> Hi! I Have A Problem
[03:42] <defrysk> Don-XY, not detecting @ all ?
[03:42] <Don-XY>  <defrysk>no
[03:42] <defrysk> Don-XY, do you have an on board sound card ?
[03:42] <angasule> phoneseeker: not really, it was a hobby kind of thing
[03:43] <Psiloss> i have a problem
[03:43] <phoneseeker> ok, thank you all for your input, I'm going to hunt a small distribution
[03:43] <Don-XY>  <defrysk>yes on dell Optiplex Gx1 P2
[03:43] <angasule> jake: why do you want to do that?
[03:43] <jake> Healot, can you tell me the proper processor optimization for a 64 bit sempron?
[03:43] <jake> too see if I can
[03:43] <defrysk> Don-XY, p2 proc ??
[03:43] <bartek_> DON-XY i have a problem can you helpme??/
[03:43] <guiden> YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!! I FINALLY GOT THE 3D ACCELERATION TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:43] <Psiloss> me too! :P
[03:44] <Healot> it's require some flags; the same flag you do with Gentoo compilation
[03:44] <Don-XY>  <defrysk>Pentium 2
[03:44] <angasule> jake: so you plan on begging here? how about reading documentation, searching on google, etc?
[03:44] <Don-XY> <what is the problem?>
[03:44] <guiden> do you know what to problem was all the time?! TO MUCH DUST ON THE FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ah atlast, it's been bugging my life for the past year or so
[03:44] <cntb> when I hit links here on IRC I want firefox to open not konqueror. HOw ?
[03:44] <csills> How did he get his 3D Acceleration to work?
[03:44] <defrysk> Don-XY, not sure if I can figure that one out for you you probably need someone like crimsun for that
[03:44] <Healot> --arch=<your arch here>. and really, its better to read the package docs first, see whether it can do that (or support such flag)
[03:44] <guiden> I removed the dust
[03:44] <guiden> lol
[03:44] <bartek_> Don-XY how i can add the java plugin to mozilla firefox??
[03:45] <guiden> i been following every guide and nothing gave any result, the computer got stuck all the time, overheated i know now
[03:45] <jake> The semp's seem to be gray area, nobody says specifically weather to use athlon-xp or athlon64 and for the record I DO my research and as I said the semp's are a gray area
[03:45] <Don-XY> I`m newbie on linux ask someone alse
[03:46] <angasule> !java > bartek
[03:46] <bartek_> !java
[03:46] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:46] <guiden> Does anyone here uses cedega?
[03:46] <angasule> !java > bartek_
[03:46] <bartek_> thanks for help ;] 
[03:46] <Healot> jake; if your using 32-bit ubuntu; it's k7 pc-gnu-k7; 64-bit >> k8; pc-gnu-k8
do you can help me fix my sound card driver?
[03:47] <wilman> !beryl
[03:47] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:47] <Healot> btw, the only thing you neeed to optimize is just the kernel
[03:47] <justin1278> hello
 thankyou
[03:47] <jake> There is no benefit to optimizing the make settings?
[03:47] <justin1278> does anyone know how to change the look of the taskbar in Kubuntu 6.10?
[03:48] <justin1278> I have seen screenshots where the taskbar looks like an OS X taskbar
[03:48] <justin1278> or a Vista taskbar
[03:48] <apokryphos> ubotu: info kxdocker
[03:48] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[03:48] <justin1278> how can i modify it?
[03:48] <apokryphos> justin1278: Mac uses a dock, perhaps you want that?
[03:48] <justin1278> Yes
[03:48] <apokryphos> Vista taskbar... you're probably referring to kbfx
[03:48] <apokryphos> ubotu: info kbfx
[03:48] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.1+20060611cvs-1 (edgy), package size 593 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[03:49] <Healot> jake; not much but there always benefits
[03:49] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: so you are ok now?
[03:49] <justin1278> where can i get kbfx?
[03:49] <jake> Healot, thanks for your help its appreciated
[03:50] <BluesKaj> yup, just fine DaSkreech :) still have a google earth GUI refresh prob  but it's something to do with my ATI card
[03:50] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What do you use google Earth for?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> for maps etc ...my kids are spread out over ontario and i like to use ... and i'm a bit of a geography nut
[03:52] <Healot> beautiful lake
<Hoi are you there?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> it's not an absolute necessity or anything like that , but i just like to use it ..
[03:52] <Don-XY> help
[03:52] <Don-XY> Hellp
[03:53] <BluesKaj> Don-XY, with what ?
[03:53] <SeanTater> !helpme | Don-XY
[03:53] <ubotu> Don-XY: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:53] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Ever looked at WorldWind
[03:53] <guiden> Why does ubuntu have less packages that debian?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> google earth worked fine in dapper , DaSkreech
[03:53] <guiden> than*
[03:53] <SeanTater> guiden: enable universe and that changes for the most part
[03:54] <defrysk> guiden, why it the earth flat ?
[03:54] <BluesKaj> no DaSkreech , never heard of it
[03:54] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[03:54] <defrysk> is*
[03:54] <_4strO> BluesKaj: not with a ATI x600
[03:54] <BluesKaj> ill take a look
[03:54] <fuzzy> angasule: aMSN is working fine now ;) cam too.. but it was as you said.. it looks just like msn only worse ://
[03:54] <DaSkreech> guiden: because Debian is the largest Distro. Thats already taken so why fight it :)
[03:54] <DaSkreech> Like slackware is the oldest
[03:55] <wilman>  can anyone tell me the repository for beryl .13
[03:55] <angasule> fuzzy: yes, aMSN looks like a dirty diaper
[03:55] <DaSkreech> !beryl
[03:55] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:55] <DaSkreech> angasule: which is great if it's your baby :)
[03:55] <guiden> :)
[03:56] <guiden> but
[03:56] <guiden> why? :)
[03:56] <fuzzy> angasule: yup.. :// and kinda crappy to use, but atleast cam works.. :) hopefully i figure out howto use cam in kopete soon =)
[03:56] <DaSkreech> because ubuntu expunges unmaintained packages I would suspect
[03:56] <angasule> DaSkreech: would you stare at your baby's dirty diapers for an hour? if so, you're a sick, sick person hehehe
[03:56] <Don-XY> I have sound card problem my system does`t detecte it
[03:57] <DaSkreech> angasule: Probably not but you'd spend a lot mroe time thinking about them
[03:57] <guiden> Ok
[03:57] <DaSkreech> it doesn't have inetd for example cause no one keeps maintaining it anymore
[03:57] <guiden> I'm having second thoughts, i really like kubuntu
[03:57] <guiden> Ok, so everything is super secure
[03:57] <guiden> ?
[03:57] <guiden> about the packages
 I have sound card problem my system does`t detecte it
[03:58] <Don-XY>  <Blueska> do you can help me ?
[03:58] <defrysk> Don-XY, you can use autocomplete <tab-button> to finish nicknames in your irc client
[03:59] <defrysk> no need to copy paste
[03:59] <angasule> gotta run
[04:00] <guiden> ubotu: how do I play windows game in linux?
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how do I play windows game in linux? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <defrysk> Don-XY, also there is a dutch channel if you prefer dutch
[04:00] <defrysk> !nl Don-XY
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nl Don-XY - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <defrysk> !nl | Don-XY
[04:00] <ubotu> Don-XY: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:01] <guiden> It feels so restricted :(
[04:02] <Don-XY> defrysk: how can I get into Dutch channel?
[04:02] <BluesKaj> Don-XY, have you tried setting up your sound card on the mixer which will popup if you click on the speaker icon in the panel by the clock
[04:02] <defrysk> Don-XY, /j #ubuntu-nl
[04:03] <voicu> is the usplash image in edgy supposed to look that dark?
[04:03] <Don-XY> defrysk: ok
[04:03] <BluesKaj> Don-XY, click on the #ubuntu-nl
[04:03] <tim_flatus> Yay! Dselect seems to be working! :)
[04:05] <guiden> what should I do if I can't find the program I'm looking for in adept?
[04:05] <LjL> guiden: make sure you have all ubuntu repositories enabled
[04:05] <LjL> !repos
[04:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:05] <tim_flatus> (I was having problems upgrading from Hoary to Kubuntu dapper from the command line. I'd forgotten about dselect. Woo Hoo!
[04:05] <LjL> guiden: at http://packages.ubuntu.com you can search for all official packages also
[04:08] <Jucato> guiden: you can also try typing "apt:/" in Konqueror's URL bar
[04:08] <Healot> Jucato: that's apt!
[04:08] <Jucato> Healot: huh?
[04:09] <guiden> Ok thanks
[04:09] <Healot> get it "apt"
[04:09] <Jucato> um.. ok.. :)
[04:10] <tim_flatus> Healot, many puns don't translate well.
[04:10] <tim_flatus> or appropriately even
[04:10] <Jucato> hehe :)
[04:10] <tim_flatus> I laughed )
[04:11] <ead> Hello, I just installed kubuntu. Looks great. I used the installer cd method and I have various permission based problems for the user I created. The mixer and hdc (cdrom) devices were not marked as rw for users. I updated /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rule to add the lines 'KERNEL=="mixer"  MODE="0666"' and 'KERNEL=="HDC" MODE="0666"'. This fixes my immediate problems, but I'm wondering why I neede
[04:11] <ead> d to do this, whether it's the "correct" fix,  and whether I may have skipped something during install.
[04:11] <Healot> wait a sec, those people with "ubuntu" nick is running the liveCD eh
[04:12] <LjL> normally...
[04:12] <cntb> check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/XeroxPrinters
[04:12] <cntb> This page does not exist yet
[04:13] <cntb> Apparently ubuntu sites have placeholders. Good to know
[04:15] <psb154> !nvidia
[04:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:16] <cntb> ead: good point
[04:16] <davin> ez
[04:17] <Jucato> cntb: it isn't actually a place holder. that's the page that shows up when a URL/page doesn't exist. something like the 404 pages that you get.
[04:17] <rerere> !brother dcp115c
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brother dcp115c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <rerere> !printer brother dcp115c
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printer brother dcp115c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Jucato> cntb: this should have been the URL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XeroxPrinters
[04:17] <cntb> Jucato you sure? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/XeroxPrinters check it yourself
[04:17] <Jucato> !printers | rerere
[04:17] <ubotu> rerere: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:17] <cntb> not 404
[04:18] <cntb> was there Jucato ;-)
[04:18] <Jucato> cntb: yes. that is the default page when you enter a non-existing page in the wiki. it means that the page really doesn't exist. it's not a place holder
[04:18] <Jucato> cntb: I said "like", not exactly a 404 page
[04:18] <guiden> When I click "request install" for boson (a opengl game) in adept, the requested thing says, "BRAKE (install)" What's wrong? It should say install
[04:19] <cntb> there is a link to it q. is did it exist in the past link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/XeroxPrinters . if not then I call it placeholder
[04:20] <cntb> kinda remind community to develop such an info page
[04:20] <Jucato> cntb: if it did exist in the past, then it means that the page doesn't exist anymore.
[04:20] <Jucato> doesn't exist means it doesn't exist. a placeholder means that there's an existing empty page that's waiting to be filled
[04:20] <cntb> anyway I know printer xerox phaser 3122 will print but  still trying to find the path to it
[04:21] <cntb> ok Jucato agreed on that
[04:21] <fishman4> helo all
[04:21] <cntb> fishman4: you ubuntu yourself ?
[04:22] <Jucato> cntb: try entering wiki.ubuntu.com/randomurl, like wiki.ubuntu.com/placeholder, wiki.ubuntu.com/blahblah.. you get the same page
[04:22] <cntb> ah
[04:22] <mneisen> Hi, after upgrading to Edgy Eft, my user cannot mount samba shares anymore, and there are several python packages held back. Anybody want to help me?
[04:24] <apokryphos> mneisen: did you upgrade following the guide?
[04:25] <fishman4> who know when the Debian Etch will release?
[04:25] <apokryphos> fishman4: try #debian
[04:25] <fishman4> ok
[04:26] <CVirus> fishman4: http://www.debian.org/
[04:26] <fishman4> i know
[04:26] <fishman4> but if somebody will know more...
[04:26] <CVirus> fishman4: why are you asking then ?
[04:26] <fishman4> it would be better
[04:27] <apokryphos> fishman4: this is a channel for kubuntu-related support :)
[04:27] <mneisen> apokryphos: Yes, I did follow the guide on www.kubuntu.com
[04:27] <CVirus> even if its #Debian ... you should check the website first then ask your question if you cant find the answer on the website
[04:27] <fishman4> ok
[04:27] <fishman4> sorry
[04:28] <apokryphos> mneisen: if you followed it exactly then no python packs should've been kept back
[04:28] <fishman4> ok
[04:28] <fishman4> so...
[04:28] <fishman4> logout
[04:28] <mneisen> apokryphos: But there are some. May I post the output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:29] <apokryphos> mneisen: in a pastebin entry, sure.
[04:29] <mneisen> OK.
[04:30] <mneisen> pastebin is slow today.
[04:31] <mneisen> http://pastebin.com/831394
[04:31] <mneisen> omg, i takes literally several minutes to paste something today.
[04:31] <apokryphos> .com is always slow these days; the one in /topic is good
[04:32] <Jucato> !pastebin
[04:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:32] <mneisen> ok, I will use that one in the future.
[04:33] <apokryphos> mneisen: ok, continue with the next steps?
[04:33] <mneisen> which are?
[04:33] <mneisen> O I C
[04:33] <apokryphos> cntb: ?
[04:33] <mneisen> I have completed the update and am running Edgy at the moment.
[04:34] <mneisen> It is only these packages that make problems.
[04:34] <apokryphos> mneisen: you have to do more steps after the upgrade before it's complete....
[04:34] <apokryphos> it doesn't end with dist-upgrade
[04:34] <mneisen> yes i know
[04:34] <mneisen> I did the sudo apt-get install kubutnu-desktop .... line as well.
[04:34] <voidmage> I can't get firefox to properly restore my session, it restores a really old one instead of my last session
[04:34] <mneisen> I followed the guide step by step.
[04:37] <mneisen> apokryphos: Any ideas?
[04:38] <apokryphos> any errors?
[04:39] <fyrmedic> what is the command to reconfigure X from command
[04:40] <Kabal> is it possible to make an a->b button for XMMS?
[04:41] <Jucato> fyrmedic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:41] <fyrmedic> Thanx
[04:42] <ubuntu> http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/5673/screen7xf5.png ist this kde?
[04:43] <voidmage> yeah, that's kde
[04:43] <Jucato> yep
[04:43] <ubuntu> wow :)
[04:43] <Jucato> Gentoo
[04:43] <mneisen> apokryphos: only that these packages are held back.
[04:44] <mneisen> that's my problem.
[04:44] <voidmage> oh yeah
[04:44] <voidmage> that is gentoo
[04:44] <mneisen> (and the problem with samba)
[04:44] <apokryphos> mneisen: but the next command (with python etc in it) solves that, right?
[04:44] <mneisen> which one would that be?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato: what happens when you portage-reconfigure KDE on gentoo?
[04:45] <mneisen> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal ?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> you start ning your family?
[04:45] <DaSkreech> planning
[04:45] <Jucato> DaSkreech: don't know. :P
[04:45] <SillyZ> gmorning, need a bit of help with reconfiguring xserver-xorg on a laptop
[04:45] <DaSkreech> !x
[04:45] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:45] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[04:46] <sonja-ny> happy turkey day to everyone
[04:46] <mneisen> sonja-ny: same to you. :-D
[04:46] <DaSkreech> Eh?
[04:47] <SillyZ> DaSkreech: thanks for the link, although what Im really questioning is Im almost dead positive the video card only has 8mb ram on it, yet the linux agpgart is allocating 64mb
[04:49] <DaSkreech> SillyZ: what card?
[04:49] <sonja-ny> not even 11am and i got a beer and a smoke, wow love these kinda days... and Quite Frankly I hate Turkey , and family gatherings
[04:50] <SillyZ> its a s3 virage
[04:50] <DaSkreech> !s3
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Blast :-)
[04:50] <sonja-ny> nice try though DaSkreech
[04:51] <SillyZ> Ive tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, Ive done this before but theres another note i had from the last time I did this xserver-xorg-driver-drivername.......
[04:51] <SillyZ> its been a while since ive had linux on da box :D
[04:54] <DaSkreech> Right so what's the issue? It sees 64 megs of RaM?
[04:55] <cntb> conecting and disconnecting USBs on windows by default - makes a distinct sound
[04:55] <cntb> I would like KDE  to also make sounds on connecting USB. does it exist?
[04:55] <sonja-ny> cntb: to true and it kills the usb hard drive if you dont do the winsucks turn off hardware thingy
[04:56] <SillyZ> I think I found the problem, the right xserver drivers arent installed
[04:56] <sonja-ny> i killed my 4 gig flash voyager with a few wins boxes
[04:56] <cntb> sonja-ny: ?
[04:56] <sonja-ny> i wonder if i can fresh format it and save its life
[04:56] <cntb> sonja-ny: you have it working?
[04:57] <sonja-ny> the light blinks ON, but linux dont recognise it no more
[04:57] <sonja-ny> or and windows says it needs formating but it cant do it
[04:57] <cntb> anymore?
[04:57] <Angrataf> !sis
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <cntb> Angrataf:  why !sis
[04:57] <sonja-ny> yes cntb, i used it to fix loads of peeps win boxes for them for like 6 months then it died
[04:58] <sonja-ny> I had live versions of linux on the usb stick to boot the pcs
[04:58] <cntb> hard drive could die because of some shock rather than connect disconnect
[04:58] <cntb> is it a flash? then?
[04:58] <zerozero> I'm working with a friends laptop, we both have kubuntu dapper installed.  I can connect to his machine via ssh but he can not get out to the internet to browse
[04:58] <zerozero> what should I try to get it to work?
[04:59] <sonja-ny> its not too bad i got 4 more left all 4 gig flash , they was cheap in the pawn shop next door
[05:00] <sonja-ny> zerozero: was he online before you linked the pcs ?
[05:00] <zerozero> when the laptop was at his house it was
[05:00] <sonja-ny> and is the laptop setup to work, where it is now , cause its a diff ip etc ?
[05:01] <zerozero> the laptop looks like it should be working
[05:01] <zerozero> it has a basic install with no real changes
[05:01] <Angrataf> !source
[05:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:01] <cntb> voidmage: found something http://www.support.xerox.com/go/results.asp?xlang=en_us&xcntry=usa&prodid=3121&ripid=&xtype=download
[05:01] <sonja-ny> yes but the settings are now diff, is it road runner cable then wireless
[05:01] <Angrataf> !kubuntu source
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kubuntu source - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:02] <SillyZ> How can I configure a remote source from the commandline?
[05:02] <SillyZ> for packages, etc
[05:02] <cntb> SillyZ: ssh?
[05:03] <SillyZ> remote source for dpkg
[05:03] <cntb> !ssh | SillyZ
[05:03] <ubotu> SillyZ: ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:03] <SillyZ> I know what ssh is
[05:03] <sonja-ny> SillyZ: have you tried ssh
[05:03] <Dr_willis> ITs turky eating day!
[05:03] <SillyZ> remote source = internet package repository
[05:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:03] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:03] <SillyZ> ya im being gobbeled by Ubuntu
[05:03] <SillyZ> :D
[05:03] <Dr_willis> !repo
[05:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:03] <sonja-ny> happy turjey day to you too, Dr_willis
[05:04] <Dr_willis> You just edit the sources.list or use a tool to alter it..
[05:06] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: Sir, I have a question about formating the hdd to save some work and music, can I private you ?
[05:07] <deal> How is Kubuntu setup compared to Fedora ?
[05:07] <sonja-ny> deal, 100% better, I used the fed zod 6 it sucks
[05:08] <sonja-ny> deal, I have 3 pcs running the 64 bit install ,, and a laptop , everry thing was found
[05:08] <deal> Is it easy to setup a server on it ?
[05:08] <deal> Nice. Cos I'm a linux nubie, and I realy like it easy
[05:08] <sonja-ny> I dont even know why I am in this chan, I dont need help , i just gratefull sit here
[05:08] <deal> Tryed Slackware... but it was to damn much reading :(
[05:09] <sonja-ny> live slax is good
[05:09] <sonja-ny> but there install sucks ,
[05:09] <zerozero> deal:  kubuntu is great you will love it
[05:09] <sonja-ny> unlike this
[05:09] <deal> Then I'll download Kubuntu
[05:09] <dbm> Hello everybody! Anybody good at sound configuration on Kubuntu 6.10 (amd64)?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  im about to leave for turkey... fdisk the drive.. make partitions , format, then i make a dir (as root) on the drive for the user to use with their permissions.
[05:09] <DaSkreech> Angrataf: What are you looking for?
[05:09] <sonja-ny> deal , in the last two weeks i tried 6 pcs on all linux versions, only this one worked for every pc
[05:10] <deal> nice.
[05:10] <sonja-ny> Dr_willis: Enjoy your turkey, tks thats all i needed to know
[05:10] <deal> 6.10 the version to download ?
[05:10] <dbm> Im successful in configuring it once, but on reboot all settings are lost and I have to reconfigure again...
[05:10] <sonja-ny> deal YES
[05:10] <Dr_willis> sonja-ny,  that way the user has /media/DRIVE_whatever/username  for a 'second' home/storege space. i thin use 'ln -s' to make a Data dir in the users home dir that points to that Data/directory
[05:10] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[05:11] <deal> I got a x86 prosessor, wich version to download ?
[05:11] <DaSkreech> the x86 one :)
[05:11] <sonja-ny> deal the x86 works wicked best
[05:11] <deal> dont find the dvd iso for that one :(
[05:11] <sonja-ny> and you only need the first TWO cds , the rest you can load while online
[05:11] <deal> amd64, i386 and powerpc only one there
[05:12] <BluesKaj> I use x86 on my amd64, due to hardware probs i encountered with the 64bit kubuntu vers
[05:12] <fishy> !wireless
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <deal> Where can I find the x86 version DVD ?
[05:13] <BluesKaj> in dapper...maybe edgy64 is better, dunno
[05:13] <sonja-ny> I cant get my cpu to go above 22% even running , 50 odd browsers open, music amorok playing and a movie running , at the same time
[05:13] <BluesKaj> !kubuntu
[05:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:14] <sonja-ny> why would you want to download the dvd when live works the best, plus all the packages R upto date ?
[05:14] <eilker> i am try to learn permissions, r w x are understood but what about d ?
[05:14] <eilker> i am trying* to learn permissions, r w x are understood but what about d ?
[05:14] <deal> Because I only have DVD's to burn on right now :S
[05:14] <sonja-ny> deal mount the download from your desktop, why burn >
[05:16] <DaSkreech> eilker: the first bit is to denote special files
[05:16] <DaSkreech> eilker: the d is for directory
[05:16] <eilker> DaSkreech: drwxr-xr-x what is this ?
[05:16] <DaSkreech> eilker: l is for link etc
[05:17] <DaSkreech> eilker: the first bit is to show special files. D is for directory
[05:17] <Angrataf> !ati
[05:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <DaSkreech> eilker: try ls -l ~
[05:17] <SillyZ> DaSkreech: welp Im somewhat up and going, thank the video gods for VESA
[05:17] <SillyZ> hehehehehehe
[05:17] <Kim^J> Hi all!
[05:17] <DaSkreech> your Examples should have a l as teh first one
[05:17] <mnoir> eilker: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3127/
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Hi Kim^J
[05:18] <Angrataf> !kde
[05:18] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:18] <Kim^J> DaSkreech: What's up with you?
[05:19] <DaSkreech> good question
[05:19] <eilker> DaSkreech: d is for directory ? what about i ?
[05:20] <eilker> mnoir: thanx for link, reading it
[05:20] <DaSkreech> man ls works just as well :)
[05:20] <mnoir> google is yer friend...
[05:20] <eilker> DaSkreech: d is for directory* what about i ?
[05:20] <sonja-ny> mnoir: bet its your homepage too
[05:20] <DaSkreech> eilker: run the command man ls in a terminal
[05:21] <eilker> DaSkreech: ok
[05:21] <DaSkreech> it gives you a listing of all the special letters
[05:21] <dbm> are there any sound-setup-gurus out there?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> eilker: Whopps guess not :)
[05:22] <DaSkreech> I'll try to remember where I saw those
[05:23] <eilker> DaSkreech: :) i'm understanding
[05:24] <mnoir> sonja-ny: nope
[05:24] <mnoir> it should be about the second stop for answering any question here though....
[05:24] <sonja-ny> mnoir: I love the personalised google login your mail everything all in your fav search engine and fast
[05:25] <lotusleaf> Is anyone able to install kdar? I get this message when I try "Depends: libdar3c2a  but it is not installable"
[05:25] <sonja-ny> happy turkey day to everyone I am off to my brothers house for food
[05:25] <sonja-ny> enjoy all and one, be happy day today
[05:26] <lotusleaf> sonja-ny: happy turkey day to you, too. :)
[05:26] <campbch> is there any way to disable how kubuntu remembers what programs are running and restarts them? it always screws up and reloads things that werent running, like console and whatever, kills my keyboard input and crashes beryl
[05:26] <DaSkreech> eilker: I remember some stuff like c is for a character device b for a block device
[05:26] <campbch> :(
[05:27] <DaSkreech> campbch: turn off sessions
[05:29] <dbm> amd64 anyone?
[05:30] <Ace2016> i'll have one
[05:30] <dbm> that is, kunbuntu edgy eft on amd64
[05:30] <Ace2016> oh so your not giving them away?
[05:30] <dbm> Ace2016: sound working properly for you?
[05:31] <Ace2016> i don't have an amd 64, i have an athlon 2000+ but yea the sound works perfectly, i think edgy uses sofware mixing through dmix
[05:31] <eilker> DaSkreech: i  totally understood permission thing , "chmod 777 DaSkreech" then you become "-rwxrwxrwx"  if you were directory "drwxrwxrwx" , right:))
[05:32] <dbm> hm... It seems like I
[05:32] <Trevinho> Is there any i386 user using beryl? :)
[05:32] <dbm> hm... It seems like I'm the only one who can't get sound working properly on my edgy amd64
[05:32] <campbch> !sessions
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <hola> quiero saber como sacar Amsn de mi sistema operativo (ubuntusimepre !! ejej) y volver a instalar otro.. proq anda mal anda trabado por eso.., por favor diganme como hacerlo se q es por consola pero nose como, contesten por favor
[05:33] <dbm> perhaps google is a better source of information than this channel
[05:33] <campbch> if i knew what sessions were, i would know that they were the problem, and i would know how to change them... so i wouldn't be here
[05:33] <campbch> how do i change sessions?
[05:34] <campbch> :(
[05:34] <DaSkreech> eilker: Yup. The first one shows what kind of file it is. Kinda hard to change that
[05:34] <DaSkreech> !beryl > Trevinho
[05:35] <eilker> trevinho: i use berly
[05:35] <DaSkreech> campbch: When you are logging out there is a check box to select it. It;s on by default. Turn it off and it stops starting apps
[05:36] <campbch> it says end current session, turn off, restart, susped and hibernate, there are no checkboxes
[05:36] <campbch> suspend, evne
[05:36] <campbch> even*
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Hmm Ok hold up
[05:37] <defrysk> campbch, menubutton > settings > kde components > sessionmanager
[05:38] <campbch> there is nothing in settings besides scim, beryl and emerald
[05:39] <campbch> and it not in system settings
[05:39] <defrysk> I said settings
[05:39] <campbch> this is a fresh install, only added things...
[05:40] <campbch> i said the only things in the settings menu are scim, beryl, and emerald
[05:40] <defrysk> there are 2 settings
[05:40] <campbch> i tried system settings just to be sure
[05:40] <campbch> yes, no, ok?
[05:40] <DaSkreech> My settings only has Printers
[05:41] <defrysk> hmm my kde must be differnt then yours then
[05:41] <campbch> i just said i tried both settings, the settings menu first... and it is not there
[05:41] <defrysk> open kcontrol and continue from there than
[05:41] <defrysk> choose from there  kde components > sessionmanager
[05:41] <campbch> yep, it works
[05:42] <campbch> why isn't kcontrol in settings by default?
[05:42] <defrysk> campbch, systemsettings is another frontend for kcontrol
[05:42] <DaSkreech> *shrugs*
[05:42] <DaSkreech> Pretty poor one so far
[05:42] <campbch> alright
[05:42] <xwolf-> !c
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <campbch> humm
[05:43] <DaSkreech> xwolf-: That only wrks with x :)
[05:43] <xwolf-> uhm
[05:43] <xwolf-> !x
[05:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:43] <xwolf-> :P
[05:43] <DaSkreech> there we go
[05:43] <xwolf-> well, i'm looking for man pages for C functions
[05:43] <xwolf-> where can i download them?
[05:44] <campbch> hmm...
[05:44] <campbch> what's the best filesharing program? i had something much better than gtk-gnutella before, but I can't remember which one
[05:45] <defrysk> campbch, torrentwhateverclient is best
[05:45] <defrysk> ktorrent i would say
[05:45] <campbch> humm?
[05:45] <campbch> is that specific to torrent files?
[05:45] <defrysk> yes
[05:45] <campbch> how about a traditional program?
[05:45] <DaSkreech> hi BluesKaj
[05:46] <defrysk> campbch, I dumped them all
[05:46] <campbch> :(
[05:46] <DaSkreech> !p2p
[05:46] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[05:48] <BluesKaj> hi DaSkreech .
[05:49] <fyrmedic> What are some good webpage editors aside from Joomla? I am interested in building my first page and don't know where to start.
[05:49] <SillyZ> Q: whats a commandline tool i can use to determine how much video ram is on the card ?
[05:50] <XVampireX> Joomla is not a webpage editor, it's a frameworkr
[05:50] <DaSkreech> fyrmedic: try quanta or nvu
[05:50] <XVampireX> work^
[05:50] <fyrmedic> ok I will thanks DaSkreech
[05:51] <campbch> :( well, gnutella drops more than half of my downloads
[05:51] <campbch> or just doesnt start them
[05:52] <campbch> and there was something better
[05:52] <XVampireX> frostwire?
[05:52] <XVampireX> !frostwire
[05:52] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:54] <lotusleaf> Is anyone able to install kdar? I get this message when I try "Depends: libdar3c2a  but it is not installable"
[06:02] <davin> is this a botflood or netsplit?
[06:02] <cox377> has winamp ever come to linux?
[06:02] <XVampireX> lotusleaf: maybe install it manually?
[06:02] <XVampireX> Yeah, it has, but not for long :P
[06:03] <XVampireX> It's useless anyway, there are better players with more features and more plugins and better skins and so on.
[06:03] <cox377> XVampireX: i'm yet to find something i like as much as winamp
[06:03] <cox377> :s
[06:03] <DaSkreech> !flightgear
[06:04] <ubotu> flightgear: Flight Gear Flight Simulator. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.10-2 (edgy), package size 2081 kB, installed size 5484 kB
[06:04] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: found worldwind?
[06:04] <ypsila> good evening
[06:04] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, having trouble with Azureus shutting down immediately after opening , could it be this : ? E: The package flashplugin-nonfree needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[06:04] <apokryphos> davin: neither
[06:06] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Maybe reinstall it then?
[06:06] <BluesKaj> it won't reinstall
[06:06] <BluesKaj> it brealks
[06:07] <DaSkreech> tried a dist-upgrade?
[06:08] <tanlaan> has anyone seen xgl?
[06:08] <BluesKaj> really ?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> tanlaan: You mean the code?
[06:09] <tanlaan> no the GUI
[06:09] <ypsila> tanlaan: I did
[06:09] <BluesKaj> nope DaSkreech, same message'\
[06:09] <tanlaan> ypsila: have you tried or know anyone who has tried it out?
[06:10] <ypsila> tanlaan: I did
[06:10] <ypsila> as many others too
[06:10] <tanlaan> ypsila: is it all its cracked up to be?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Why don't we hit tha Azuerus problem first? :)
[06:10] <XVampireX> cox377: You mean you're yet to find winamp for linux? Because your answer is an ignorant "I won't use anything other than windows, even if it's better, I'm just used to winamp"
[06:11] <XVampireX> errr "other than winamp"
[06:11] <menyesg> hey guys... can anyone help me with creating raid1 array under Ubuntu Server 6.10? It seems as it is created successfully, but after reboot, the array does not work and I get the following message: /dev/md0 no such device
[06:11] <ypsila> tanlaan: what du you mean?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> yok DaSkreech , what's yer idea for azureus?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> cox377: Shortanswer is no.
[06:11] <tanlaan> ypsila: its supposed to run really smooth, and look awesome, and be a contender with Vista
[06:12] <DaSkreech> run it from the command line with 2> azuerus.err
[06:12] <fdoving> BluesKaj: about the flashplugin-nonfree problem. do you have the multiverse repositories enabled?
[06:12] <ccc> tanlaan: vista is nothing in comparison
[06:12] <BluesKaj> yup
[06:12] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[06:12] <BluesKaj> non commented repos
[06:12] <BluesKaj> err no
[06:12] <ypsila> tanlaan: I had it installed with dapper, ist was running fine, booting was much faster, and it is a nice playground if you are looking for an effective gui
[06:13] <tanlaan> ypsila: it would probly be great for my normal comp, but i dont use linux on it *sharing it with my family*
[06:13] <ypsila> tanlaan: even my windows-childs were deeply impressed, and I only run an old G4 witz 32 mb
[06:13] <tanlaan> ypsila: right now ive got an iMac G3 350mhz 192 mb
[06:14] <ypsila> tanlaan: have a try, have a look, and then decide
[06:14] <rysiek|pl> guys, I've got a strange problem: I've sudo aptitude install koffice koffice-data, etc., and 1. no entries have been added to the KMenu; 2. when trying to run kword from console, I get: ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found and ERROR: Check your installation (did you install KOffice in a different prefix than KDE, without adding the prefix to /etc/kderc ?)
[06:14] <tanlaan> hmm
[06:14] <tanlaan> i guess i could try
[06:14] <tanlaan> im just thinking its gonna cripple my computer
[06:15] <ypsila> tanlaan: then first read about the experiences with a similar system like yours
[06:15] <XVampireX> cox377: Try something like audacious
[06:15] <rysiek|pl> anybody?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: Check kubuntu.org for the latest koffice
[06:16] <XVampireX> cox377: or beep media player (bmpx)
[06:16] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: shouldn't it be in the repo's? besides, even it's not the cuttiong-edge, it *still* should work, shouldn't it
[06:17] <DaSkreech> I know :) Just trying to get you better stuff
[06:17] <BluesKaj> gonna edit my sources list , DaSkreech..it's screwing things up i think
[06:18] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: ok
[06:18] <DaSkreech> rysiek|pl: did you try a reinstall?
[06:18] <campbch> ok, im trying to use amule, xmule, whatever, and it keeps saying that there are no valid servers in the server list?
[06:18] <campbch> ive replaced the server.met file with a known good file, and it still won't do anything for me
[06:18] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: nope. it was a clean-install, though, so - wtf?
[06:18] <rysiek|pl> DaSkreech: trying to reinstall, then with the new KOffice
[06:21] <galathalion> Maximilian: is there a cryptationklient for kopete?
[06:21] <lotusleaf> Is anyone able to install kdar? I get this message when I try "Depends: libdar3c2a  but it is not installable"
[06:22] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: what do you mean by "cryptationklient"?
[06:23] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: something that cryptate? my messages via IM
[06:23] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: encryption is protocol-dependant. what IM protocol are you using?
[06:24] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: MSN and icq
[06:24] <XVampireX> lotusleaf: install that library manually
[06:25] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: then you have to check if those protocols allow encryption
[06:25] <XVampireX> lotusleaf: or try to install it through aptitude
[06:25] <XVampireX> lotusleaf: sudo aptitude install kdar
[06:25] <lotusleaf> XVampireX: yes, that's one thing I thought of trying, was just curious if anyone else experienced this, too
[06:25] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: I don't use them. besides - just set-up a jabber account, and you'll get TLS-encryption all the way ;)
[06:25] <milaks> Hi
[06:25] <milaks> Although I've selected dictionary and program (aspell) in Settings->KDE Components->Spell Checker, when I type message in Kopete it doesnt reacts acordingly.
[06:25] <XVampireX> jabber for the win
[06:26] <milaks> Does anyone knows how to fix this?
[06:26] <ubuntu> hej =)
[06:26] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: I use Kopete with jabber accounts, all are TLS-encrypted :)
[06:26] <_4strO`> i have a pb with the automount of memory stick on a dapper
[06:26] <rysiek|pl> milaks: did you enable aspell support in Kopete?
[06:26] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: i dont know what jabber is
[06:26] <Ambe> :D
[06:26] <Ambe> im new :D :D
[06:27] <_4strO`> it open a window who ask me what to do
[06:27] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: just another IM protocol. The OpenSource one ;)
[06:27] <_4strO`> i choose open in konqueror
[06:27] <_4strO`> and nothing !
[06:27] <_4strO`> it isn't mount
[06:27] <milaks> rysiek|pl: Hm... no. How should I do that, I havent encountered that option as far as I recall?
[06:27] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: you can use jabber alongside your MSN and ICQ accounts
[06:27] <_4strO`> anybody have a solution ?
[06:27] <rysiek|pl> milaks: gimme a sec :)
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Ambe: Welcome
[06:28] <milaks> rysiek|pl: Thanks
[06:28] <_4strO`> someone say me that the sd driver is dead
[06:28] <DaSkreech> Right duh Ctrl+Shift+F is the KDE Full screen
[06:29] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: what do i use it for?
[06:29] <lotusleaf> XVampireX: there's no such package found
[06:29] <rysiek|pl> milaks: the Settings menu -> Configuration -> Behaviour (I've got a different language setting, you might have a different name here - it's the second option from the top) -> Conversation -> enable spellchecker
[06:29] <lotusleaf> XVampireX: libdar3c2a doesn't seem to exist at all
[06:29] <Ambe> i dont understand something :S
[06:29] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: obviously to talk with other jabber users
[06:30] <lotusleaf> XVampireX: not in edgy, it may for dapper but not in edgy
[06:30] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: i dont know anyone who use jabber
[06:30] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: the number of whom is getting larger - do you know anyone that uses GoogleTalk?
[06:30] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: no
[06:30] <milaks> rysiek|pl: Yes, its already checked!??
[06:30] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: ah, well, in that case you could only have a single jabber contact - me, that is. now, that's a start ;)
[06:31] <DaSkreech> galathalion: You know noone with a gmail account?
[06:31] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: ^^ i just want my bullshit encrypted
[06:31] <rysiek|pl> milaks: d'oh. hmmm... then something's wrong with aspell, I suppose. I don't know anything about aspell thouhg
[06:31] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: that's just the reason why you should use jabber, and get yout friends to use it, too
[06:32] <Ambe> can i switch language?
[06:32] <milaks> rysiek|pl: Anyway, thanks for effort :)
[06:32] <galathalion> DaSkreech: ofcourse i do.. but i dont know anyone using googletalk
[06:32] <Ambe> can i switch language?
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Well then they can chat in the browser window and they use jabber :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Ambe: which language?
[06:32] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: check if MSN and/or ICQ support encryption, if not - well, that's a reason to convert yourself (and your friends) to jabber. :)
[06:32] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: :S thats bad man.. bad.
[06:32] <Ambe> swedish
[06:32] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: you'd be surprised how many people are actually using it.
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: MSN and ICQ are *bad* :P
[06:33] <Ambe> Swedish
[06:33] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: i know thy do.. i used a encryptionthingy when i had.. pardon me.. windoze
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm whats swedish?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> sw?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> !sw
[06:33] <Ambe> yes =)
[06:33] <lotusleaf> Can someone tell me if they're able to select kdar in Kubuntu Edgy for installation without getting a missing dependency warning about libdar3c2a please (which is not available for Edgy it seems, but it is for Dapper)
[06:33] <XVampireX> lotusleaf: Oh well
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <lotusleaf> XVampireX: indeed
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> ah, so if they do, kopete should be able to use it too
[06:33] <DaSkreech> ha ha :)
[06:33] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: ah, so if they do, kopete should be able to use it too
[06:33] <fdoving> !se | ambe
[06:33] <ubotu> ambe: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Guess there is no swedish channel yet
[06:33] <Ambe> =)
[06:34] <Ambe> thx =)
[06:34] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: well i am using kopete as a IM-client. but i dont know if its encrypted
[06:34] <DaSkreech> or I was mislead one of the two
[06:34] <_4strO`> !usb stick
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb stick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <_4strO`> !stick
[06:34] <Ambe> :P
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <lotusleaf> !botabuse
[06:34] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[06:34] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: if MSN or ICQ *require* encryption - then yes, it is; if not, check the options for your acounts, something should be there
[06:34] <_4strO`> !automount
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <_4strO`> !auto mount
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about auto mount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <lotusleaf> !botabuse
[06:34] <_4strO`> lol
[06:34] <Ambe> i chose wrong language when i install :S
[06:35] <_4strO`> !mount
[06:35] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[06:35] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: they dont require it.. I do!
[06:35] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: then check in Kopete's account options.
[06:35] <_4strO`> !key
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: or check in kopete's website - google's your friend
[06:35] <_4strO`> !usb key
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <galathalion> rysiek|pl: ok. i hafta go. thnx for teh help
[06:36] <SillyZ> DaSkreech: thanks for the help earlier, aparentally theres a bug with the particular video card I have savage IX/M
[06:36] <rysiek|pl> galathalion: nop
[06:36] <nathan> how do check to see which kernel I am using as in 386 vs 686
[06:36] <SillyZ> DaSkreech: just used vesa and frambuffer, works fine now
[06:36] <SillyZ> uname -r   I belive
[06:36] <nathan> Does edgy autimatically install the correct kernel?
[06:37] <SillyZ> by default it installs the 386 kernel, depending on system tho (* ie: 64bit systems, etc )
[06:37] <nathan> I have a 686 system
[06:37] <nathan> can I use the obsoleted 686 package that I found in synaptic
[06:37] <SillyZ> Heres one for the crew here, Have a new laptop showing up on tuesday, intel duo core, 1.8ghz, should I use an smp 32 bit or  64 bit kernel?
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> nathan: You should use -generic
[06:38] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, this error is preventing Azureus reinstallation : E: flashplugin-nonfree: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> nathan: The 686 one is old (suprised it is till there)
[06:38] <DaSkreech> SillyZ: Good to hear
[06:38] <DaSkreech> SillyZ: Hope they fix it soon
[06:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: remove flashplugin-nonfree
[06:39] <BluesKaj> ok
[06:39] <nathan> there is no indication as to whether the generic packaghe is 686 or 386
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> nathan: It is 686
[06:40] <SillyZ> is kdevelop no longer a package of KDE ?
[06:40] <BluesKaj> ok DaSkreech , done
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> SillyZ: Never was afaik
[06:41] <nathan> ahh thank you
[06:41] <nathan> I thought that the performance seemed to confirm that
[06:41] <nathan> Edgy is awsome by the way
[06:41] <nathan> responds almost as fast as my arch install
[06:41] <SillyZ> h3sp4wn: not seeing it in any of the package management tools for installation
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop3
[06:42] <ubotu> kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> !info kdevelop
[06:42] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[06:42] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, Azureus still quits 1 sec after launch
[06:42] <SillyZ> hmm must not have universe enabled
[06:42] <SillyZ> thanks
[06:42] <davin> BluesKaj: you set up java right?
[06:42] <BluesKaj> yup
[06:42] <nathan> I hate to look the fool but what is the "!" that i see here: '!info kdedevelop' mean
[06:42] <BluesKaj> maybe yer right, reinstall java ?
[06:43] <davin> BluesKaj: try this
[06:43] <davin> BluesKaj: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:43] <B-Minus> does anyone know if smartcard reading/writing is supported in linux ? i have a laptop with an internal reader/writer
[06:44] <B-Minus> i want to read from SD
[06:44] <B-Minus> but if i plug the card in nothing happens
[06:44] <BluesKaj> davin, which one do i choose in the list ? :)
[06:44] <dorshin> still cant get sound from speakers,i have sound from internal speakers
[06:44] <davin> B-Minus: Youre saying if Ubuntu supports SD cards?
[06:44] <B-Minus> SD cards from an internal laptop reader
[06:44] <davin> BluesKaj: copy your options to pastecode.com and give me the link
[06:45] <davin> B-Minus: well, internal SD works fine on my Desktop Compaq PC
[06:45] <B-Minus> davin: did you have to install anything ?
[06:45] <davin> B-Minus: You need JRE (Java Runtime Envoirment) 1.5 to run LimeWire/Azureus
[06:45] <frankmyhre> Happy Thanksgiving
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> I have a usb multicard reader which only compact flash is working on
[06:46] <davin> B-Minus: sorry, I mistook you
[06:46] <davin> B-Minus: no, worked right out the box
[06:46] <B-Minus> darn
[06:46] <davin> B-Minus: with dapper
[06:46] <BluesKaj> davin, http://pastebin.ca/256010
[06:46] <SillyZ> ok stupid q, where is the sources.list ?
[06:46] <davin> SillyZ: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:46] <SillyZ> thx
[06:46] <davin> anytime
[06:47] <davin> BluesKaj: choose 1
[06:47] <davin> BluesKaj: then try to run azureus again
[06:47] <BluesKaj> ok davin, thx
[06:47] <lotusleaf> Ah, someone else discovered this too "Kdar is missing libdar3c2a, nor is it in the repositories. This is not a big problem unless all you backups are done in dar...then it's quite serious." @ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283364&page=4
[06:47] <lotusleaf> so Edgy does -not- have libdar3c2a so I can't use kdar
[06:47] <davin> BluesKaj: please tell me if it worked =]  I had this problem too with LimeWire
[06:48] <B-Minus> hmm if i do lspci i see
[06:48] <B-Minus> 06:06.4 Class 0805: Texas Instruments PCI6411, PCI6421, PCI6611, PCI6621, PCI7411, PCI7421, PCI7611, PCI7621 Secure Digital (SD) Controller
[06:48] <B-Minus> so its installed
[06:48] <B-Minus> but nothing happens :(
[06:48] <BluesKaj> nope, didn't work davin
[06:48] <davin> B-Minus: insert a SD card and 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[06:49] <davin> BluesKaj: tried 'azureus' from command line?
[06:49] <davin> BluesKaj: It should give you an error
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> B-Minus: just because its named in lspci doesn't mean it has a driver
[06:50] <dorshin> still cant get sound from speakers,i have sound from internal speakers.using dapper.
[06:50] <davin> dorshin: monitor?
[06:50] <B-Minus> hmm ic
[06:50] <B-Minus> well fdisk -l doesnt show it :s
[06:50] <dorshin> davin: its a laptop
[06:51] <intelikey> !sound | dorshin
[06:51] <ubotu> dorshin: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:51] <BluesKaj> davin , i tried #3 and it seems to be holding
[06:51] <davin> BluesKaj: holding?
[06:51] <BluesKaj> working
[06:51] <davin> BluesKaj: mhm
[06:52] <BluesKaj> it's DLing, thx for the help , davin :)
[06:52] <davin> BluesKaj: You are very welcome ;-)
[06:53] <davin> BluesKaj: Any other problems [related to Java]  ?
[06:54] <BluesKaj> yeah, does google earth use java ?
[06:54] <davin> BluesKaj: Google Earth uses OpenGL
[06:55] <davin> BluesKaj: Havent been able to get it working myself, 3D works just fine, but I get these weir black spots in the 3D rendering
[06:56] <BluesKaj> ok...the GUI in it keeps refreshing , sort of blinking of and on at 3x /sec ...very annoying ...worked fine in dapper
[06:56] <BluesKaj> off and on
[06:57] <davin> BluesKaj: hmm weird, I have no idea why it does that
[06:57] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's a prob with my ATI card according to some forums I've read on the subject
[06:58] <BluesKaj> davin, it won't even open now , just sits there at the initializing page
[06:58] <davin> BluesKaj: I got an old GeForce myself
[06:59] <BluesKaj> ok, well gonna go out for abit ... it's anice day for putting up the christmas lights :) ...see ya later
[07:00] <davin> BluesKaj: good luck and have a nice day ;)
[07:00] <BluesKaj> thx davin :)
[07:00] <voidmage> When i search for a song in katapult and it adds it to amarok, amarok then says the file does not exist
[07:04] <idigtal> Happy Thanksgiving everyone
[07:05] <idigtal> enjoy your 4 days off
[07:05] <idigtal> I need help
[07:05] <idigtal> install flash into konqueror
[07:05] <idigtal> install flash player plugin into konqueror
[07:07] <voidmage> When i search for a song in katapult and it adds it to amarok, amarok then says the file does not exist
[07:11] <mjunx> anyone here good with openssh server?
[07:17] <mnoir> mjunx: probably, won't find out unless you ask a real question
[07:19] <mjunx> aight
[07:19] <mjunx> a long time ago, I set up openssh so that I could authenticate using only pubkeys
[07:19] <mjunx> I could log in without having to use passwords
[07:19] <mjunx> however, I'm having problems setting it up again on another computer
[07:19] <FJ_Sanchez> Hello everybody
[07:20] <FJ_Sanchez> Edgy is full of bugs!!
[07:20] <FJ_Sanchez> OG
[07:20] <FJ_Sanchez> OMG
[07:20] <mjunx> even with the same exact sshd_config file, it still asks for a password, and when I disable password logins, it denies me
[07:20] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: pro tip: don't use feisty if you want something bug-free-ish :P
[07:20] <FJ_Sanchez> hehe
[07:20] <mjunx> I swear, something breaks every day now
[07:21] <mjunx> yesterday it was coreutils (kind of important), today it's konqueror (at least for me)
[07:21] <bubu1uk> hmm, don't know what u talkin bout. i have no problems at all.
[07:21] <mnoir> (6.10+ = 'not always reliable'
[07:21] <mjunx> bubu1uk: are you updated to the latest packages?
[07:21] <idigtal> To be more specfic it say "Mixer cannot be found"
[07:21] <bubu1uk> yup
[07:21] <bubu1uk> well, what u mean latest
[07:21] <mjunx> I was hoping that developmental releases of ubuntu would at least be as stable as debian unstable...
[07:21] <idigtal> Can some body help me on that
[07:21] <bubu1uk> latest stable
[07:22] <mjunx> no, latest feisty
[07:22] <idigtal> anybody know what my sound not able to work it say "<Mixer cannot be found"?
[07:22] <bubu1uk> nope, lol. need stable system. ;)
[07:22] <mjunx> idigtal: did it ever work before?
[07:23] <idigtal> I just installed kubuntu 2 days
[07:23] <idigtal> without sound
[07:23] <FJ_Sanchez> How can I get wlassistant working?
[07:23] <mnoir> bubu1uk: I suggest 6.06
[07:23] <idigtal> i try look at the settings
[07:23] <mjunx> what sound card do you have?
[07:23] <FJ_Sanchez> Only compiling new code?
[07:23] <idigtal> How would i find that out beside looking in my hardware?
[07:24] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: have you tried using wpasupplicant? it's easier to use IMO (get kwlan)
[07:24] <idigtal> What i know its a build in /
[07:24] <mjunx> idigtal: well, if you didn't buy the sound card, it's probably integrated
[07:24] <idigtal> so how would i find out my sound card
[07:24] <mjunx> idigtal: test this; find a wav file, and using the terminal, type "aplay file.wav"
[07:25] <bubu1uk> mnoir: Edgy Eft 6.10
[07:25] <idigtal> give me a sec
[07:25] <mjunx> k
[07:25] <mjunx> if you have an ogg, flac, aac/m4a or mp3 file, you can decode it to wav
[07:26] <idigtal> It say
[07:26] <idigtal> ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver return                                   ed error: No such device
[07:26] <mjunx> hmm, so nothing is detecting your sound card I see
[07:26] <idigtal> "no such device"
[07:26] <mjunx> you've tried rebooting?
[07:26] <idigtal> yea
[07:27] <idigtal> i can try again
[07:27] <mjunx> have you updated all the programs yet?
[07:27] <bubu1uk> idigtal: r u in audio group?
[07:27] <idigtal> all the programs
[07:27] <mjunx> don't bother trying again yet
[07:27] <mjunx> idigtal: type "groups" and make sure "audio" is one of them that shows up
[07:27] <idigtal> updated like what programs
[07:27] <mjunx> the update icon in the task bar
[07:27] <idigtal> type groups to where
[07:27] <mjunx> terminal
[07:28] <idigtal> I don't see any update icon in my taskbar
[07:29] <mjunx> okay, in the console, type this:
[07:29] <mjunx> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <mjunx> when it asks for a password, put in your password
[07:29] <mjunx> note that you can do this without the terminal, but I find it faster to do it this way :)
[07:30] <idigtal> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:30] <mjunx> alright, you updated everything then
[07:30] <mjunx> odd
[07:31] <idigtal> so why i enable to detect my sound ?
[07:31] <mjunx> well, let's try other stuff
[07:31] <idigtal> k
[07:31] <mjunx> go to the k menu -> system settings
[07:31] <mjunx> choose the sound system settings
[07:31] <mjunx> and go to the hardware tab
[07:32] <mjunx> er, go to the general tab
[07:32] <mjunx> test sound
[07:33] <idigtal> ... no sound or ... anyhting happen
[07:33] <idigtal> quiet
[07:34] <idigtal> maybe the setting
[07:34] <idigtal> do i set it to autodetect
[07:35] <idigtal> nvm
[07:35] <idigtal> ...
[07:35] <idigtal> mjunx you still there right
[07:36] <mjunx> oh yeah
[07:36] <mjunx> I'm here
[07:36] <mjunx> hmm, is there any reason ubuntuforums censors "ass"? what if you're asking about libass (the ssa subtitle library from mplayer)
[07:37] <idigtal> there this icon appar in my right for "KMix"
[07:37] <idigtal> and show a X on it
[07:37] <mjunx> click, click the "Mixer" button, and unmute the speaker-related stuff
[07:37] <idigtal> saying "mixer cannot be found"
[07:38] <mjunx> well, that's a problem then, hrmm
[07:38] <mnoir> mjunx: the whole project is very concerned about niceness
[07:38] <idigtal> its not unmute
[07:38] <mjunx> mnoir: well, that's a step above debian :P
[07:38] <mnoir> :)
[07:38] <idigtal> even with ubuntu
[07:38] <idigtal> its still have the same problem too
[07:38] <FJ_Sanchez> mjunx: wpa_suplicant has a gui, hasn't it?
[07:38] <mjunx> I guess I'm too used to debian and being able to cuss a lot in the mailing lists (relatively speaking)
[07:39] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: kwlan is said gui (for kde of course)
[07:39] <mnoir> .me thinks there is no great code without argument
[07:39] <mnoir> s--t
[07:39] <mjunx> otherwise you'd be editting /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf (which isn't too hard, but it's still easier to use a GUI for that sort of thing)
[07:39] <FJ_Sanchez> I have to put a kubuntu on 5 laptops for non GNU/Linux users
[07:39] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: so, install kwlan (probably in universe) along with wpa_supplicant
[07:40] <sirmis> hi
[07:40] <doppelganger__> anybody have a quick answer as to which ati driver to install for a mobile x400?
[07:40] <FJ_Sanchez> I can use it normally, but them cannot
[07:40] <sirmis> when compiling wine, i get this error message
[07:40] <sirmis> Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gd
[07:40] <sirmis> i32.kXVnuE.o) is not supported
[07:40] <FJ_Sanchez> Is so dificult use a term?
[07:40] <doppelganger__> i'm about to install beryl, i just need to make sure i get that out of the way propely
[07:40] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: besides, you'll need wpa_supplicant if you want to use wpa/2 on those systems
[07:40] <FJ_Sanchez> Only wep
[07:40] <mjunx> sirmis: do you ahve all the needed packages?
[07:40] <FJ_Sanchez> And wpa_supplicant is already installed (is it broken?)
[07:41] <sirmis> mjunx: i suppose so
[07:41] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: needs to be started (kwlan can do that) and configured (i.e. add some networks)
[07:41] <mjunx> sirmis: well, I mean, did you do apt-get build-dep wine
[07:41] <idigtal> mjunx i try restarting
[07:41] <idigtal> to give a try
[07:41] <mjunx> good luck
[07:41] <FJ_Sanchez> I'll try kwlan
[07:41] <sirmis> 2.6.15-27-amd64-k8 kernel\
[07:42] <FJ_Sanchez> I also have problems with plugin a USB disk
[07:42] <FJ_Sanchez> I can mount it manually
[07:42] <FJ_Sanchez> And when I plug the device the kde window pops up
[07:42] <sirmis> mjunx: i have done that
[07:42] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: when you plug it in, doesn't kde offer to open it in a new window etc.?
[07:42] <FJ_Sanchez> But if I select open in a new window
[07:42] <mjunx> sirmis: are you compiling a cvs version of wine?
[07:42] <FJ_Sanchez> It says wrong URL
[07:42] <FJ_Sanchez> Hard disk is sata at sda
[07:43] <FJ_Sanchez> Maybe it's the problem
[07:43] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: did you try using pmount to mount it?
[07:43] <FJ_Sanchez> I can mount it with mount
[07:43] <sirmis> mjunx ... yes
[07:43] <mjunx> because if that doesn't work, it won't work in kde (you might get prompted for password for all I knwo)
[07:43] <FJ_Sanchez> I'd like know what is the problem with KDE pop up
[07:43] <mjunx> sirmis: that might be why; it's not mplayer/ffmpeg, so it's not always a guaranteed stable cvs
[07:44] <FJ_Sanchez> But I don't know where should I look
[07:44] <FJ_Sanchez> Nothing in /var/log/udev
[07:44] <mjunx> welp, no idea here
[07:45] <sirmis> mjunx: ok .. should i try apt-get source wine
[07:45] <mjunx> sure
[07:45] <FJ_Sanchez> I'm back in a while
[07:45] <idigtal> im back
[07:46] <gayfish> i'm wondering where to get some useful help about how to install programs and that kind of stuff?
[07:46] <gayfish> someone here should know?
[07:46] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell gayfish about software | gayfish, you have a private message from Ubotu
[07:46] <voidmage> Quick question, what do I do if I want some command to run when i login?
[07:46] <cntb> how do I make firefox default browser on kde
[07:47] <LeeJunFan> voidmage: anything in ~/.kde/Autostart will be run at login
[07:47] <idigtal> Can some one help me fix my sound in Kubuntu
[07:48] <gayfish> helpful room?
[07:48] <cntb> alt f2 kmix idigtal
[07:48] <mjunx> that guy didn't say anything for a long time...
[07:49] <LjL> gayfish, do you have questions about the information Ubotu gave you?
[07:49] <gayfish> ok, let's say it like this...i'm a newbie, never used linux before...does anyone know any good guide or such on how to fix up ypur kde?
[07:49] <voidmage> LeeJunFan: I need to run xbindkeys when I login, how exactly would I go about doing that?
[07:49] <idigtal> cntb mixer cannot be found
[07:49] <LjL> "fix up your kde" is kind of generic
[07:49] <FJ_Sanchez> I'm back
[07:49] <LeeJunFan> voidmage: not familiar with that - do you simply run it or do you have to pass args to it?
[07:49] <voidmage> LeeJunFan,  i just have to run it
[07:49] <LjL> a good guide is the ubuntu wiki guide. http://help.ubuntu.com/community gayfish
[07:50] <idigtal> how i fix that problem withthe sound?
[07:50] <LeeJunFan> voidmage: you can make a link to it in the Autostart dir.
[07:50] <idigtal> "mixer cannot be found"
[07:50] <sirmis> is there any other way to get wlan drivers from win64 .exe file _
[07:50] <mjunx> sirmis: try cabextract or orange
[07:51] <LeeJunFan> voidmage: ln -s `which xbindkeys` ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:51] <voidmage> thanks
[07:52] <idigtal> Anyone have any clue why might sound is not working plus kmix giving a message that "mixer cannot be found"
[07:52] <sirmis> ah ... gcc -m32 -g -O2 -o sfnt2fnt sfnt2fnt.o -L../libs/wine -lwine ../libs/port/libwine_port.a  -lfreetype -lz
[07:52] <sirmis> /usr/bin/ld: warning: libdl.so.2, needed by ../libs/wine/libwine.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link)
[07:54] <LeeJunFan> anyone know how to keep apt from being stubborn and removing a package that it thinks has unresolved deps? specifically in feisty it wants to remove kmymoney because of a library name change. I tried putting on hold with dpkg - no go.
[07:54] <sirmis> i have libdl.so.2 in /lib and /lib32
[07:55] <mjunx> sirmis: add -ldl to the line I gues
[07:55] <sirmis> seems that i need to create symlink  but where
[07:55] <sirmis> mjunx: ./configure line ?
[07:55] <idigtal> does linux able to view a window os harddrive  files?
[07:56] <LeeJunFan> idigtal: yes
[07:56] <mjunx> sirmis: CFLAGS="-ldl" ./configure
[07:56] <sirmis> i figured it out .. i thin ..
[07:56] <sirmis> mjunx: i use this LDFLAGS="-L/lib32 -L/usr/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/lib32 -Wl,-rpath,/usr/lib32" ./configure
[07:56] <mjunx> they might have screwed something up
[07:57] <mjunx> okay, try that
[07:57] <idigtal> my sound isn't working because your mixer cannot be found.. :) how to solve that
[07:57] <sirmis> keep fingers crossed :D
[07:58] <idigtal> my sound isn't working because your mixer cannot be found.. :) how to solve that?/?
[07:59] <LeeJunFan> !sound | idigtal
[07:59] <ubotu> idigtal: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:59] <linux_> hi all
[08:01] <mutineer612> What is the Kubuntu equivelent to Debian's "libmysql-java"
[08:01] <mutineer612> trying to get Open Office to connect to MySQL using JDBC
[08:01] <idigtal> how would i use alsa?
[08:01] <idigtal> use aplay to get a list of soundcards configured by alsa
[08:02] <mutineer612> The debian package for JDBC is libmysql-java
[08:02] <mjunx> mutineer612: did you try libmysql-java?
[08:02] <fdoving> mutineer612: libmysql-java it's in the multiverse repository.
[08:02] <LeeJunFan> mutineer612: I think it would be libmysql-java
[08:02] <fdoving> !repos | mutineer612
[08:02] <mutineer612> hmmm
[08:02] <ubotu> mutineer612: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:02] <mutineer612> looked fo that and have multiverse enabled.
[08:02] <mutineer612> not finding it
[08:02] <highLighter> how do i install a program made usable only for windows and mac, and i have linux kubuntu
[08:03] <mjunx> !wine
[08:03] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:03] <fdoving> mutineer612: try again, it's there.
[08:03] <mjunx> noice
[08:03] <mutineer612> checking your link ubotu
[08:03] <fdoving> !info libmysql-java
[08:03] <ubotu> libmysql-java: Java database (JDBC) driver for MySQL. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.1.11-1 (edgy), package size 484 kB, installed size 552 kB
[08:03] <fdoving> !info libmysql-java dapper
[08:03] <ubotu> libmysql-java: Java database (JDBC) driver for MySQL. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.1.11-1 (dapper), package size 484 kB, installed size 552 kB
[08:03] <mjunx> !say < lol
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about say < lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <mjunx> damn
[08:03] <mjunx> :P
[08:03] <FJ_Sanchez> mjunx: I solved the usb problem
[08:04] <sirmis> so far so good :D
[08:04] <idigtal> where i download debian
[08:04] <mjunx> good to hear
[08:04] <mjunx> idigtal: debian.org
[08:04] <inuka> hi, i have kubuntu edgy eft installed and i was just trying out the different themes that are on there and i can't get my original theme back now! does anyone here know what the default theme that comes with kubuntu edgy eft is? thanks!
[08:04] <sirmis> idigtal: google it ..
[08:04] <idigtal> hai hai
[08:04] <voidmage> In kpilot when I set it to sync with kontact, it then deletes all my calendar and todos on my palm.
[08:04] <FJ_Sanchez> I manually created the user i'm using and forget to add it to the plugdev group
[08:04] <mjunx> inuka: I thought it was plastik+crystal
[08:04] <FJ_Sanchez> and all the defaults groups
[08:04] <mjunx> FJ_Sanchez: I hate that
[08:04] <FJ_Sanchez> Me too
[08:05] <mjunx> adding people to all the groups they should be added to; ubuntu needs an easy tool for adding users "admin or regular user"
[08:05] <FJ_Sanchez> It's dificult to find this kind of problems
[08:05] <sirmis> all this trouble for wath ... to install win  drivers .. lol
[08:05] <FJ_Sanchez> You can do it throught kcontrol
[08:05] <FJ_Sanchez> But I normally use term
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> or just configure adduser.conf correctly
[08:05] <inuka> mjunx: me too.. but for some reason, where ever i have lists, the alternate entries are blacked out! and some of the smaller icons are the black and white type and i have specified plastic+crystal.. that's why i thought it was a special theme of some kind :/
[08:05] <FJ_Sanchez> Anyway, one thing less
[08:05] <FJ_Sanchez> I still have a lot of work
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> Thanks for the tip of kwlan
[08:06] <mjunx> inuka: well, you could click the "Default" button
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> It's really nice
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> EXTRA_GROUPS (from the man page)
[08:06] <FJ_Sanchez> Where should be place wpa_supplicant.conf?
[08:06] <sirmis> huoh .. now this ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf64-x86-64 (/usr/lib/libsicuuc.a(ubidi.ao)) to format elf32-i386 (gdi32.YDBbse.o) is not supported
[08:06] <inuka> mjunx: that sets the default for the selected theme in the list.. not for the system
[08:07] <mjunx> sirmis: you're running on 64-bit, right?
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> FJ_Sanchez: No need to use it directly (except for roaming) see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[08:07] <sirmis> mjunx: yeah
[08:07] <mjunx> and you're compiling wine for 32-bit?
[08:08] <mjunx> I think you need all the required libraries for wine in 32-bit (should go in /usr/lib32 I think)
[08:08] <mjunx> unless there's some way to compile wine for 64-bit I don't know about
[08:09] <sirmis> mjunx: i found Building Wine on Ubuntu / Kubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake)
[08:09] <mjunx> sirmis: have you found any details on cross-compiling wine for a different architecture?
[08:10] <sirmis> mjunx: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-56206e8bc74083807ffe06ccb471d3f964cb670a
[08:10] <LeeJunFan> pain in the arse, either cross compile and link static or chroot it.
[08:10] <DaSkreech> voidmage: Try rescanning your  collection
[08:11] <FJ_Sanchez> h3sp4wn: kwlan says something about this file...
[08:11] <sirmis> hmm .. i might found sollution ..
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> FJ_Sanchez: You could use it but seen as wpasupplicant is already linked into the scripts in /etc/network/*/
[08:12] <FJ_Sanchez> Then it's ok
[08:12] <FJ_Sanchez> Thanks
[08:12] <heinkel_111> concerning wine and 64 bit kubuntu, there is a guide ion ubuntuforums on how to install
[08:12] <sirmis> i removed libicu34-dev
[08:12] <heinkel_111> that worked perfectly
[08:12] <[Inf] Sako> Hello ;)
[08:13] <FJ_Sanchez> Where can i look for bluetooth help?
[08:13] <heinkel_111> it is a script-based install of binary package
[08:13] <[Inf] Sako> I am creating a kubuntu live cd at the moment and I would like to know...
[08:13] <[Inf] Sako> ... how I could remove the "Install" symbolic link on the desktop
[08:13] <FJ_Sanchez> I don't know what chipset uses this laptop
[08:15] <DaSkreech> nikkiana_lappy: Heya
[08:15] <sirmis> heinkel_111: thanks ..
[08:15] <brett> Is there a free linux program that can create a windows gui environment in linux
[08:15] <brett> not wine but a whole desktop?
[08:15] <sirmis> but i still try to compile it becose i have spend so much time on this :D
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> brett: win4lin / qemu / vmware player let you run windows
[08:16] <heinkel_111> sirmis..well at least now you have a fall back option ;-)
[08:16] <brett> h3sp4wn: cool
[08:16] <brett> h3sp4wn: wine is just not doing it for me
[08:16] <sirmis> heinkel_111: haha
[08:17] <mika__> bonjour ya til un francai
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> brett: vmware player would probably be best (win4lin might not be free) there is a site which generates the vmx's
[08:17] <sirmis> thers no turnig back :D
[08:17] <mc__> !fr > mika__
[08:17] <heinkel_111> !fr >
[08:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:18] <heinkel_111> blah i lost
[08:18] <brett> h3sp4wn: thanks... im installing that one now
[08:19] <[Inf] Sako> does anybody know how to permanently remove the "install - link" on the desktop? I am creating my own kubuntu live-cd and this link should not be displayed here
[08:19] <sirmis> looks greate :P
[08:20] <will_> hi
[08:20] <idigtal> how to enable or fix to have sound playing
[08:20] <fdoving> [Inf] Sako: remove it from the squashfs
[08:20] <will_> can someone help please?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have flight gear installed?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[08:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:20] <sirmis> will_: shoot us
[08:20] <[Inf] Sako> fdoving but where? I can't find it in /home/$USERNAME/Desktop
[08:21] <idigtal> can some one help me i belong to the audio group
[08:21] <[Inf] Sako> because the directory Desktop does not exist
[08:21] <idigtal> and my kmix show mixer cannont be found
[08:21] <idigtal> and i unable to hear any sound
[08:21] <will_> shoot you?
[08:21] <mutineer612> Got it too work!  Thanks for everyone's help!  After adding the multiverse repositiry I was able to find the package libmysql-java.  Once installed Open office is able to connect to mysql db without problems.
[08:21] <DaSkreech> will_: wiht questions I assume
[08:21] <fdoving> [Inf] Sako: that, i don't know.
[08:21] <poningru> ...
[08:21] <mika__> How to install msn
[08:21] <fdoving> [Inf] Sako: triend to search for it?
[08:22] <will_> ok, how do you get java for firefox?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> idigtal: Which sound card? did you  ever hae sound?
[08:22] <fdoving> !java > will_
[08:22] <DaSkreech> !firefox
[08:22] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:22] <will_> thank you
[08:22] <DaSkreech> will_: might also want to looks at !software
[08:23] <idigtal> daskreech i do have sound in my os but not in linux
[08:23] <idigtal> its not detecting my sound card or unable to have sound
[08:23] <DaSkreech> You do know that Linux is an os?
[08:23] <will_> !software
[08:23] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[08:23] <idigtal> microsoft os
[08:23] <DaSkreech> Ah What sound card is it?
[08:24] <idigtal> im not even sure
[08:24] <idigtal> i have to chekc
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Ok :) that helps We'll wait
[08:24] <AWOSLappy> idigtal try lspci
[08:24] <idigtal> in termail?>
[08:24] <AWOSLappy> idigtal yes.
[08:25] <idigtal> which one im looking for
[08:26] <AWOSLappy> idigtal, one that says 'audio controller' or something similar
[08:26] <idigtal> found it
[08:26] <idigtal> Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device               4310
[08:26] <[Inf] Sako> fdoving: yeah ... But I think I find something now, it's an "desktop entry" hidden in /usr/share/applications/kde/ubiquity-kdeui.desktop
[08:26] <idigtal> "unknown device"
[08:26] <[Inf] Sako> I removed that file and will try to boot now
[08:26] <idigtal> Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310
[08:27] <fdoving> [Inf] Sako: ah.. ok. :)
[08:27] <idigtal> so what now Da Skreech
[08:27] <idigtal> so what now DaSkreech and AWoslappy?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Is it a builtin sound card?
[08:28] <AWOSLappy> Wow.
[08:28] <AWOSLappy> Rockwell got bought by Conexant in 2000.
[08:28] <AWOSLappy> DaSkreech, yeah I'm pretty sure.
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Yeah I used to have a Rockwell modem
[08:28] <AWOSLappy> DaSkreech yep.  me too.
[08:28] <AWOSLappy> s/2000/1999/ actually.
[08:30] <idigtal> ... (hope for a solution)
[08:31] <idigtal> so what should be the problem that i have
[08:32] <idigtal> that cause me not to able to hear any sounds?
[08:32] <velle> all of you, which applications are you using for mp3 and video?
[08:32] <DaSkreech> idigtal: Well apparently it's the spastic nature of Rockwell
[08:33] <tabsik> i`m ne
[08:33] <DaSkreech> velle: You want all 300 of us to answer you?
[08:33] <tabsik> wqnewq
[08:33] <tabsik> new
[08:33] <DaSkreech> tabsik: Welcome
[08:34] <AWOSLappy> velle, vlc
[08:34] <DaSkreech> idigtal: Some rockwell cards are invisble in linux some work fine and some need some coaxing
[08:34] <AWOSLappy> I have a Conexant board (it's modem-only) that I had to get the Linuxant drivers to get it to work
[08:34] <idigtal> so how would i make linux able to detect this sound card
[08:35] <velle> DaSkreech: no, not exactly :) but since in English I (singular) and I (plural) is the same word, I just wanted to let people know that I am not talking to anyone in particular
[08:35] <idigtal> where would i get the drivers to able to detect it
[08:35] <B-Minus> does anyone know a program to cut mp3s ? i want to use an mp3 as my mp3ringtone, and only a selection of the mp3 i need
[08:35] <AWOSLappy> velle ahh.
[08:35] <DaSkreech> I'd need to know the chipset
[08:35] <DaSkreech> B-Minus: try audacity
[08:35] <andreas__> ghhg
[08:35] <AWOSLappy> idigtal try Linuxant, I BELIEVE they have sound too
[08:36] <B-Minus> tnx
[08:36] <DaSkreech> velle:  kaffine
[08:36] <AWOSLappy> velle -- vlc
[08:36] <[Inf] Sako> removing the file worked :)
[08:37] <FJ_Sanchez> LoL
[08:37] <idigtal> Awoslappy > riptide?
[08:37] <AWOSLappy> idigtal Ahhhh.
[08:37] <FJ_Sanchez> My boss had tried i get working bluetooth on all kubuntu laptops
[08:37] <FJ_Sanchez> I hard tried this but
[08:37] <FJ_Sanchez> Laptopd don't have any bluetooth device
[08:37] <FJ_Sanchez> Shiii
[08:37] <AWOSLappy> idigtal Yes a Google for "Rockwell 4310" yielded Linux Riptide information
[08:37] <FJ_Sanchez> t
[08:38] <AWOSLappy> FJ_Sanchez hahahahahahaha
[08:38] <FJ_Sanchez> A lot of time spent for nothing
[08:38] <velle> Im using vlc, because it can handle just about any format, but I find the UI absolutely terrible, and when wanting to make a playlist for mp3s its almost unbearable
[08:38] <sirmis> yeah .. i managed compile wine :D
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> velle yeah.  Have you tried amaroK?
[08:39] <velle> I have this suspicion that there must be another front end or something for vlc
[08:39] <DaSkreech> For video?
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> Oh.
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> DaSkreech, velle -- amaroK can only do sound.
[08:40] <AWOSLappy> I must go now.
[08:40] <AWOSLappy> bye!
[08:40] <DaSkreech> bye
[08:40] <velle> AWOSLappy: yes, I have, but all the kubuntu preinstalled media players cant play any mp3s or videos, when opening an album it kind of spins through all of the tracks in less than 10 secons, and then "Playlist finished"
[08:40] <musya3d> how do i open up port 21 on my machine?
[08:40] <AWOSLappy> DaSkreech, can you go through LAME installs with velle?
[08:41] <velle> that is, on my comp they cant
[08:41] <sirmis> how to use ndiswrapper _
[08:41] <sirmis> ?
[08:41] <velle> AWOSLappy: what??? !!
[08:41] <FJ_Sanchez> II'm going
[08:41] <FJ_Sanchez> byee
[08:41] <AWOSLappy> sirmis ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[08:41] <AWOSLappy> Bye FJ_Sanchez
[08:41] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > velle
[08:41] <AWOSLappy> velle, basically: sudo apt-get install lame
[08:41] <AWOSLappy> anyways I must go bye!
[08:41] <musya3d> I tryed this but doesnt seem like it worked becasue i still cant ftp into it.     sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
[08:46] <toshia> !ati
[08:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <velle> when using apt-get, is backport the same as multiverse?
[08:48] <Flosoft> hey
[08:49] <Flosoft> I installed Skype, but my Mic doesn't seem to work
[08:49] <Flosoft> I have an Onboard Soundcard (Laptop)
[08:54] <toshia> has anyone installed an ati mobile card before (like an x400) ?
[08:55] <toshia> i need to know which driver to use to properly run things like Beryl
[08:55] <toshia> i just got a new laptop for my g/f, i'm trying to set it up properly
[08:56] <DaSkreech> !skype
[08:56] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:56] <DaSkreech> toshia: ask in #ubuntu=-xgl
[08:56] <DaSkreech> toshia: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:56] <toshia> ok, thanks man
[08:56] <LjL> velle: no. backports are (un-guaranteed) packages ported back from the next version of the distro (edgy for dapper, the experimental feisty for edgy...)
[08:57] <LjL> velle: multiverse is a component that contains non-free packages, or packages with non-free dependencies
[08:57] <Martijn81> anyone knows ehen the 06-11-17: Gnash second alpha, with version number 0.7.2 will be in repo?
[08:57] <Martijn81> *when
[08:57] <Chemist> hi all
[08:58] <sirmis> bNU82set
[08:58] <sirmis> damn typos
[08:58] <Lynoure> What was in supposed to spell?
[08:59] <sirmis> i have no idea howto install wlan win64 wlan drivers
[08:59] <Chemist> this is gonna be a really stupid question but I'm a noob
[09:00] <Chemist> i'm trying to install java through the terminal console
[09:00] <velle> LjL: thanx
[09:00] <DaSkreech> !java > Chemist
[09:00] <Chemist> yeah sun-java
[09:01] <visik7> I've a problem with my microphone I can hear my voice in loopback but there isn't a program able to record it
[09:01] <Chemist> i don't know how to accept the configuration on the first screen
[09:02] <musya3d> anyone know anything about porting?
[09:02] <DexterF> hi
[09:03] <DexterF> i need to write to ntfs from the 6.06 live cd - any chance doing this quickly?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> musya3d: Like international trade?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> !ntfs
[09:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:04] <DexterF> not *view* - write
[09:05] <DexterF> i need captive, frankly
[09:05] <DexterF> but its not in standard repositories
[09:05] <sirmis> when i uninstall ndiswrapper driver and then run ndiswrapper -l theres nothin
[09:06] <DexterF> (im usually on slackware, not that firm with kub)
[09:06] <sirmis> but then i run ndiswrapper -l /pat/to/driver/wlan.inf it says driver allreade installed
[09:06] <idigtal> U
[09:06] <idigtal> ncompressing Linux drivers for Conexant modem chipsets Installer version 1.0.0
[09:06] <idigtal> Please run this installer as root. You can probably do it with the
[09:06] <idigtal> 'sudo sh cnxtinstall.run' command.
[09:07] <kevin> Goodevening
[09:07] <kevin> I just installed kubuntu and I must say...I love linux!
[09:08] <Przemcio78> kevin, is it your first linux?
[09:08] <kevin> yes
[09:08] <kevin> and I must say...winblows is history
[09:08] <kevin> linux is soo much better...I had no idea
[09:08] <Przemcio78> when i installed my first linux i said "omg, this sucks!"
[09:09] <kevin> Just wanted to tell this to someone :)
[09:09] <musya3d> DaSkreech:  no like opening up port 21 on your machine
[09:09] <kevin> really?
[09:09] <musya3d> I tryed this but doesnt seem like it worked becasue i still cant ftp into it.     sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
[09:09] <Przemcio78> but it was 2,5 years ago
[09:09] <kevin> I was like...omg, an install of  15 minutes and everything works!
[09:10] <Przemcio78> and my first distro was mandrake
[09:10] <kevin> well...had some problems, but most of them solved
[09:10] <idigtal> I did  sudo sh cnxtinstall.run and it ask me for password
[09:10] <kevin> my computer wouldn't restart nor shutdown
[09:10] <kevin> apparently acpi=force in menu.lst is solution
[09:11] <kevin> Anyway...who is using kubuntu edgy?
[09:11] <kevin> I still have one little problem remaining
[09:12] <Przemcio78> what's the problem?
[09:12] <kevin> when kde starts up...kopete launches and asks for wallet password
[09:12] <idigtal> does anyone know the user and password for http://127.0.0.1:18021/cgi-bin/setup.cgi
[09:12] <kevin> that's ok i guess
[09:13] <kevin> but then I always have to type my msn password, even when I checked remember password
[09:13] <kevin> pretty anoying :(
[09:13] <kevin> idigtal: that's local ?
[09:14] <kevin> 127.0.0.1 is localhost
[09:15] <idigtal> i guess
[09:15] <kevin> you're working under kubuntu?
[09:15] <idigtal> i guess
[09:15] <kevin> lol
[09:16] <kevin> what are you trying to do?
[09:16] <kevin> is everybody AFK here? omg
[09:17] <velle> LjL: with respects to the backport and multiverse you just told me: in the sources.list file it says "Uncomment (...) to add (...) backports", but that would be uncommenting the multiverse repository
[09:19] <LjL> velle, look more carefully - it'll (probably, i don't have your sources.list) uncomment the multiverse *component* (it's a component, not a repository) of the -backports *repository*
[09:19] <LjL> each repository is divided into components
[09:19] <velle> DaSkreech: I just realized that when I told you about singular and plural I wrote "I", of course I meant "you" :)
[09:19] <LjL> backports has a multiverse component, like all other repos
[09:19] <DaSkreech> velle:  :)
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Przemcio78: My first was Redhat 4.3 I think
[09:21] <Przemcio78> DaSkreech: when was it?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> kevin: your password may be spelt wrong
[09:22] <DaSkreech> I don't know 7 years ago?
[09:22] <DaSkreech> Przemcio78:  ^^^
[09:23] <Przemcio78> did kde extist then?
[09:23] <Przemcio78> *exist
[09:23] <kevin> DaSkreech: no, I'm logged on to msn account
[09:24] <zorglu_> kde is 10 years old
[09:24] <kevin> but each time I start computer, wallet asks for password...but then kopete asks for password again
[09:24] <Przemcio78> zorglu: you're right, i forgot about the anniversary
[09:24] <kevin> shouldnt wallet supply the password to kopeteN
[09:24] <kevin> ?
[09:24] <h3sp4wn> I briefly used kde at least 7 years ago
[09:25] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Then  back to command line for you?
[09:25] <zorglu_> !tag | Przemcio78
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <zorglu_> !tab | Przemcio78
[09:25] <ubotu> Przemcio78: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:25] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: Wait Windows is just a tad older than KDE?
[09:26] <zorglu_> window is much older than 10years old
[09:26] <DaSkreech> like 11?
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Nope I didn't like it then - its alot better now - I used blackbox at that time
[09:26] <Przemcio78> kde must have been ugly 7 years ago
[09:26] <h3sp4wn> It was
[09:26] <DaSkreech> It's ugly now. You just will know this in 10 years :)
[09:27] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: nope, more like 20years old
[09:27] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: really? when did 1.1 ship?
[09:27] <zorglu_> checking
[09:28] <h3sp4wn> Its a different codebase though - the first release of windows nt is what counts
[09:28] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: it is 21 years old from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Man I'd never let my little cosuin beat up on me like that
[09:29] <velle> LjL: ok, I think ive done something really stupid then, I could not install LAME via apt-get, then I found via google that it is multiverse, so I uncommented the lines about backports in my sources.list because those lines had "multiverse" as a postfix. Im afraid now that I am upgrading to newer and perhaps unstable versions of all my applications .... :(
[09:29] <h3sp4wn> So 1993
[09:29] <velle> I guess what I should have done was to append "multiverse" to the existing lines ???
[09:30] <LjL> velle, yes
[09:30] <zorglu_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_1.0 <- this was pretty ugly from today standard :)
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> velle: or start from scratch
[09:30] <LjL> velle: follow the howto that the bot has given you (the part on how to do it from CLI)
[09:30] <h3sp4wn> velle: Alot less messy you only need 3 lines
[09:30] <Chris_Swift> Lo all
[09:31] <kevin> *sigh*
[09:31] <zerak> WEEEEE, fixed my xserver-xorg, found in the forum but i got to admit i am kind of dissapointed. Why would kubuntu remove my xserver-xorg , not very nice of it
[09:33] <kevin> Doesn't anyone use kopete IM client?
[09:34] <luke977> hello folks
[09:34] <Chris_Swift> hello
[09:34] <kevin> hi luke977
[09:34] <Chris_Swift> dead as a dodo
[09:34] <luke977> i'm a linux beginner. hope u can help
[09:34] <Chris_Swift> !
[09:34] <Chris_Swift> so am I :P
[09:34] <zerak> !ask
[09:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:35] <luke977> adept crashed and locked apt-get :( any idea on how to return operative?
[09:35] <Chris_Swift> luke977: So your using KUbuntu or not?
[09:35] <luke977> kubuntu
[09:35] <Chris_Swift> woohoo
[09:35] <Chris_Swift> !kubuntu
[09:35] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[09:35] <Chris_Swift> !porn
[09:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about porn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <Chris_Swift> Anyone on here wanting to speak?
[09:36] <zorglu_> http://www.kde.org/screenshots/kde1shots.php <- kde1 was not that ugly
[09:36] <zerak> luke977 what did it say ?
[09:36] <zerak> luke977 many reason why it do that, check your sources, maybe failed to install something
[09:37] <casev01> hi
[09:37] <DaSkreech> !ww2d
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ww2d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <luke977> now it works :(
[09:37] <luke977> sorry mates
[09:37] <zorglu_> !adept-crash-fix | luke977
[09:37] <ubotu> luke977: If Adept crashed on you and you're left with a locked database, try typing this in a terminal (such as Konsole):  "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:37] <zerak> luke977 faulty source.list (if you edited your repositories)
[09:38] <luke977> tnx zerak
[09:38] <DaSkreech> zorglu_: Yeah it's surprisingly close to what we ue today
[09:39] <DaSkreech> Hi BluesKaj
[09:39] <DaSkreech> I was just thinking about ya :)
[09:39] <casev01> i want to share my broadband by ad-hoc
[09:39] <luke977> root@luca-linux-laptop:/home/luca# apt-get update
[09:39] <luke977> 0% [Connecting to it.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[09:39] <casev01> how can i set up?
[09:39] <luke977> another question
[09:39] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: http://ww2d.org/home.php
[09:39] <luke977> why it searchs for 1.0.0.0 ???
[09:40] <casev01> i dont know how i can set up my laptop for routing
[09:41] <luke977> but if I ping something it works fine. and irc app is working fine as u can see
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> luke977: Try upgrading your routers firmware
[09:42] <luke977> ...router firmware?
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> Are you behind a router
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> ?
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Hi oggers. Nice name
[09:43] <casev01> me? yes, but with the firewall down
[09:43] <casev01> i tiped
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> casev01: I was talking to luke977
[09:43] <casev01> sorry
[09:43] <casev01> :S
[09:44] <luke977> pinging websites it works but on it.ubuntu.etc it returns 1.0.0.0 .... :S
[09:44] <luke977> i am wireless connected to a public hotspot
[09:45] <LjL> luke977, some routers have problems when many DNS requests are made quickly, which is exactly what happens when you apt-get update. that's a problem that many people have had
[09:45] <LjL> luke977, the simple solution is to set your DNS server to something else than the router
[09:45] <luke977> how can it be done?
[09:46] <LjL> luke977: System settings / Network settings / Domain name system
[09:46] <LjL> luke977: or just manually edit /etc/resolv.conf, but that will be temporary
[09:46] <Chris_Swift> Anyone here got VMware?
[09:46] <brett> when i run adept it says that i will not be able to install anything because another proces is using the packaging system
[09:46] <brett> but i am not running anything else
[09:47] <luke977> tnx LjL
[09:47] <brett> how can i list the programs running so that i may kill something
[09:48] <brett> anyone here
[09:48] <Chris_Swift> maybe
[09:48] <LjL> brett: "ps aux"
[09:50] <notech> editing resolv.conf is temporary?
[09:50] <brett> should there be alot of processes running if i only have two windows open (this one and a shell)?
[09:50] <LjL> notech: yeah at least if you have the resolvconf daemon running
[09:51] <brett> hmm
[09:51] <DaSkreech> brett: try ps aux | grep adept
[09:51] <brett> brb
[09:51] <DaSkreech> brett: or try ps aux | grep apt
[09:51] <notech> LjL: interesting
[09:51] <Chris_Swift> "gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" Is that right to access the Grub Bootloader ?
[09:52] <LjL> Chris_Swift: if what you want to do is change the boot settings, yes
[09:52] <LjL> with a gksudo, unless you're root
[09:52] <brett> thanks that worked DaSkreech
[09:52] <Chris_Swift> gedit is that a valid Kubuntu command?
[09:52] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: replace gedit with kate
[09:52] <DaSkreech> and possibly kdesu kate
[09:53] <Chris_Swift> DaSkreech: okies thanks
[09:53] <brett> DaSkreech: this is the only process left running
[09:53] <brett> brett     4947  0.0  0.0   2800   760 pts/1    S+   12:52   0:00 grep adept
[09:53] <LjL> yeah, gedit is the default editor in gnome, not in kde
[09:53] <DaSkreech> brett: ok then it should work now
[09:53] <brett> but the process id keeps changing
[09:53] <brett> it doesnt
[09:53] <LjL> !adept crash fix
[09:53] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:54] <DaSkreech> brett: do that ^^^
[09:54] <brett> DaSkreech: ok
[09:56] <brett> DaSkreech: now adapt wont load at all
[09:56] <brett> DaSkreech: it just crashes without erro
[09:56] <brett> r
[09:56] <BluesKaj> thx DaSkreech, i'm not very familiar with binaries and how they work ..what's the next step after DLing to home ...run in wine /
[09:57] <BluesKaj> ?
[09:57] <brett> i am going to reboot
[09:57] <DaSkreech> cd to the folder and type ./name.run
[09:57] <BluesKaj> ok
[09:57] <DaSkreech> brett: just log out
[09:57] <DaSkreech> or not :-(
[09:58] <Chris_Swift> The thread that never sleeps :P
[09:58] <Chris_Swift> !mplayer
[09:58] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[09:58] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[10:00] <Chris_Swift> I love the LiveCD's installer, it is so easy and fast ! :P
[10:00] <dragonfly7> If I burn a CD with two .avi files using k3b, is there any reason why it should not play on another computer. When I try playing one of the movies on a windows computer, using Real, WMP, or WinDVD, all I get is the audio with a blank screen.
[10:01] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: No codecs?
[10:02] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, WW2D-0.99.88RC1-lin.bin , no such directory .. ?
[10:02] <dragonfly7> Well, it doesn't seem to be a codec problem, since I do get the audio. Do you think that if I copied it to the WinXP computers hard drive, it would work? Like maybe it just cant read it fast enough? If that wouldn't work, is there a way I can make a CD-RW work like a DVD?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What did you type?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: oone codec is for Video another for audio
[10:02] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: You have the audio codec it seems but not hte one or the video
[10:03] <musya3d> how do you copy and past items in terminal
[10:03] <apokryphos> musya3d: middle-click
[10:03] <musya3d> or allow root permisions in konquerer
[10:03] <DaSkreech> musya3d: middle click after highlighting
[10:03] <apokryphos> select+middle-click
[10:03] <BluesKaj> cd WW2D-0.99.88RC1-lin.bin
[10:03] <DaSkreech> oh
[10:03] <dragonfly7> DaSkreech: Do you know a good way to get video .avi codecs for windows? Or can I convert this video to .mp4 or .wmv in Kubuntu?
[10:04] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: if you do an ls do you see WW2D-0.99.88RC1-lin.bin?
[10:04] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: avi doesn't have codecs it's just a container
[10:04] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: you can try G-spot
[10:04] <brett> !adept crash
[10:04] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:04] <musya3d> if i middle click i get a image viewer that pops up/.
[10:04] <brett> hmm
[10:05] <brett> how do i fix that last problem with adept crashing
[10:05] <DaSkreech> brett: still not working?
[10:05] <brett> i got it to work
[10:05] <luke977> i dont find the laptop battery icon (kde-power-manager). do you know where to start the application? i have kde-guidance-powermanager
[10:05] <BluesKaj> yes DaSkreech , it's in green text tho
[10:05] <dragonfly7> DaSkreech: G-spot is a video file converter?
[10:05] <brett> then it crashed while installing
[10:05] <brett> what did ubuntu say to me last time
[10:05] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: it tells you what codecs a file is calling and if you have them or not
[10:05] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix
[10:05] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:06] <brett> thansk
[10:06] <brett> i am trying to install vmware
[10:06] <brett> but it keeps freezing during the install
[10:06] <Chris_Swift> !hi | Me
[10:06] <ubotu> Me: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:06] <casev01> i configured the wireless with sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc
[10:07] <DaSkreech> brett: try sudo aptitude install <packagename>
[10:07] <brett> and by freezing i mean it gets stuck and stops moving forward
[10:07] <Chris_Swift> At last finished installing Kubuntu
[10:07] <brett> what is aptitude
[10:07] <DaSkreech> It's a command line adept
[10:07] <zorglu_> !aptitude
[10:07] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[10:07] <casev01> and setup the password in the general settings
[10:07] <casev01> network
[10:08] <brett> hmm
[10:08] <dragonfly7> DaSkreech: Ok, I will try that. Can you recommend a program that works on Windows that can play .avis? Isn't there a Windows compatable media player?
[10:08] <brett> what if i dont know the exact name of the program
[10:08] <brett> i want to install vmware
[10:08] <dragonfly7> An open source one?
[10:08] <DaSkreech> dragonfly7: a knee jek reaction is vlc
[10:08] <casev01> the other laptop is in status conected, but dont have the ip addres
[10:09] <brett> brb
[10:09] <dragonfly7> DaSkreech: Ok, thank you for your help. I will try that.
[10:10] <luke977> how to show the current battery level?
[10:11] <DaSkreech> !guidance
[10:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <zorglu_> !powersave
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powersave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:12] <zorglu_> !info powersave
[10:12] <ubotu> Package powersave does not exist in any distro I know
[10:12] <zorglu_> hmm i run it anyway :)
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> !info kpowersave
[10:12] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3216 kB, installed size 4984 kB
[10:12] <zorglu_> ahhhhh thanks :)
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> but its still a frontend to powersave so powersave must exist somewhere
[10:13] <luke977> thanks!
[10:13] <brett> adept will not load
[10:13] <brett> it just crashes
[10:13] <brett> after asking for the password
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> !adept crash fix
[10:14] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:15] <brett> i dont think it is locked
[10:15] <hanso> hey. when I use kinfocenter and enter the OpenGL section the program crashes. anyone got a clue?
[10:16] <Chris_Swift> DaSkreech: can you name me a good IRC client for Kubuntu ?
[10:16] <BluesKaj> !konversation
[10:16] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB
[10:16] <brett> it still wont load
[10:17] <brett> nm
[10:18] <zorglu_> a real good irc client btw
[10:18] <zorglu_> the osd of konversation makes irc more usefull :)
[10:19] <chupa_chups> hello there iam a new user of kubunto so would any one help me understand whats going on
[10:19] <zorglu_> hehe step one, you need to explain better what you want :)
[10:19] <brett> heh
[10:19] <chupa_chups> sorry
[10:19] <zorglu_> 'what is going on' is a bit too vague to be understood :)
[10:20] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: relax, no harm done
[10:20] <chupa_chups> i learn kubuntu and i dont know how to deal with it , from where shall i start
[10:20] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: if you have question, shoot
[10:20] <chupa_chups> ok i will try to concentrate
[10:20] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: you want to do what ? to install it ?
[10:20] <brett> chupa_chups: what do you want to do? play games? browse internet? install a program?
[10:21] <chupa_chups> iam so terreble while using it
[10:21] <chupa_chups> i want to deal with shell
[10:21] <zorglu_> oh ok you want to learn the basic usage, where are the program and stuff
[10:21] <brett> chupa_chups: do you know how to use dos?
[10:21] <chupa_chups> i open the konsole then i dont know how to start
[10:21] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: i think ubuntu got a book available for free online to teach that
[10:21] <chupa_chups> some how
[10:21] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: you dont need to handle that at first
[10:22] <chupa_chups> newbie??
[10:22] <BluesKaj> so gents, how does one install/run bin files ?
[10:22] <brett> chupa_chups: if you know dos it is very similiar
[10:22] <chupa_chups> but in the institute they insist on handling with it
[10:22] <brett> chupa_chups: cd -changes directory    ls -is like dir
[10:22] <BluesKaj> !bin
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <zorglu_> the institute = your school ? chupa_chups
[10:22] <brett> chupa_chups: the slashes are backward from windows though
[10:22] <BluesKaj> !binaries
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <chupa_chups> no diploma in gis
[10:23] <BluesKaj> WTH !
[10:23] <chupa_chups> do u know GIS
[10:23] <cntb> BluesKaj: what about binaries ?
[10:23] <chupa_chups> geographic information system
[10:23] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: nope, what is it
[10:23] <chupa_chups> an open source program
[10:23] <sirmis> i lost my mind when trying to configure wlan ..
[10:24] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: ah ok, to learn unix by the command line, you can google to find basic tutorial
[10:24] <BluesKaj> cntb have a .bin file that i want either install or run ...not sure how to handle it
[10:24] <chupa_chups> i already got 3 books
[10:24] <chupa_chups> newbie , lang , and toturials
[10:24] <chupa_chups> but i dont feel free while using it
[10:25] <brett> !adept crash
[10:25] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:25] <brett> !adept crash fix
[10:25] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:26] <chupa_chups> look there is certain question i faced in exam today , how to send mail by using mail command
[10:26] <chupa_chups> i tried mail many times but i failed
[10:26] <brett> what is the program to install from the command prompt?
[10:27] <chupa_chups> would u plz telll me
[10:27] <chupa_chups> brett r u calling me
[10:27] <chupa_chups> apt-get install
[10:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> chupa_chups: sendmail
[10:27] <brett> chupa_chups: no
[10:27] <chupa_chups> then wht
[10:27] <chupa_chups> look
[10:27] <brett> chupa_chups: i was asking someone else... there was another program other the apt-get
[10:28] <chupa_chups> mail llll@lll.ll "hello" forexample right ???
[10:28] <chupa_chups> ok brett forgive me
[10:29] <brett> chupa_chups: lol you dont need forgiveness
[10:30] <zorglu_> chupa_chups: moauoau this is homework time :)
[10:30] <cntb> \o the printer I want to install is not on the list tis xerox phaser 3122 and I am trying thru wizard ftp://zaban-bechor.co.il/xerox-printer.png
[10:30] <norov> Hi
[10:30] <norov> Im trying to install kubuntu, but got some issues with partitioning my SATA drive
[10:31] <cntb> also have that link for xerox printer http://www.support.xerox.com/go/results.asp?xlang=en_us&xcntry=usa&prodid=3121&ripid=&xtype=download
[10:31] <chupa_chups> zorglou i just need some one to take my hands and stand by me iam just new user :(
[10:31] <norov> When im on the partitioning part and choose my SATA drive, i cant do anything
[10:31] <cntb> anyone for xerox printer ? any knowledge ?
[10:32] <chupa_chups> norov
[10:32] <cntb> cant do why norov ?
[10:32] <chupa_chups> u have to empty a space on ur desk and leave it unpartitioned
[10:32] <norov> oh
[10:32] <norov> i think its NTFS on it
[10:32] <cntb> tab arrows and enter should move you thru options
[10:33] <chupa_chups> while asking in linux setup to make partitins
[10:33] <norov> well anyway, i choose partition manually
[10:33] <norov> then sda
[10:33] <chupa_chups> good
[10:33] <norov> which is the SATA drive
[10:33] <chupa_chups> choose create partitionn
[10:33] <norov> but the window is empty <_<
[10:33] <chupa_chups> wait
[10:33] <norov> no options, nothing
[10:33] <chupa_chups> u r under windows now
[10:33] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:33] <cntb> there is a bootable Gparted that can change delete resize unhide partitions
[10:33] <norov> no, live CD
[10:33] <cntb> also consider HirenCD
[10:34] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:34] <chupa_chups> u have a free space partition ??
[10:34] <norov> i do
[10:34] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:34] <chupa_chups> delete it or resize it into smaller size
[10:34] <chupa_chups> then
[10:35] <norov> okay, how?
[10:35] <chupa_chups> u have unpartitioned area ok
[10:35] <norov> is there a tool in ubuntu?
[10:35] <chupa_chups> while choosing manually u have window
[10:35] <cntb> a tool before install?
[10:35] <chupa_chups> wait olz
[10:35] <cntb> consider bootable Gparted disk
[10:35] <extase> i have a problem. i can't turn my screen solution over 1024x768. but my monitor has a destination of 1280x800. Can someone help me?
[10:36] <chupa_chups> if u r under windows u can resize by choosing run from start menu
[10:36] <chupa_chups> type mmc
[10:36] <norov> ok i guess ill run windows and do it through that
[10:36] <norov> so it has to be unpartitioned?
[10:36] <norov> because the IDE drive is ok
[10:36] <chupa_chups> ofcource
[10:37] <norov> i see my partitions and can change etc
[10:37] <chupa_chups> unpartitioned area as 10 gb forexample
[10:37] <norov> but when i choose SATA, the space is empty
[10:37] <norov> yea, okay
[10:37] <norov> ill try that, thanks
[10:37] <chupa_chups> u shoose 2 file sys
[10:37] <chupa_chups> while installing
[10:38] <cntb> chupa he is gone pal
[10:38] <DaSkreech> Chris_Swift: Konversation is good as is ksirc
[10:38] <chupa_chups> ooooooooooops
[10:38] <chupa_chups> sorry :/
[10:38] <cntb> dont overburn pal
[10:38] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:38] <chupa_chups> what i was asking about
[10:39] <chupa_chups> how to send mail by command lines
[10:39] <chupa_chups> ??????????????????????????????????????????
[10:39] <pihhan> wanna send mail
[10:40] <pihhan> try sendmail :-P
[10:40] <chupa_chups> iam trying
[10:40] <cntb> chupa sendmail
[10:40] <chupa_chups> send mail or mail ???????
[10:40] <pihhan> mutt is good choice
[10:40] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:40] <pihhan> if you want to read also
[10:40] <chupa_chups> then write the email
[10:40] <pihhan> mail command would serve also
[10:40] <chupa_chups> then the "title "?
[10:41] <chupa_chups> how i tried 100 times but failed
[10:41] <pihhan> well, error message would help us much
[10:41] <brett> can someone help me with adept
[10:41] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:42] <brett> it is stuck trying to insall something and will not move forward
[10:42] <pihhan> and of course, you have to have installed MTA on your computer and configured
[10:42] <chupa_chups> mta??????????
[10:42] <chupa_chups> i will google it
[10:42] <pihhan> Mail Transfer Agent
[10:43] <chupa_chups> i have a problim in my pc
[10:43] <chupa_chups> iam not using dsl i use dial up connection
[10:43] <chupa_chups> so i cant login under linux so i cant update my pkgs
[10:44] <chupa_chups> i dont have many pkgs while others have
[10:44] <brett> can anyone help me get vmware on my computer?
[10:44] <mc__> !anyone
[10:44] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:44] <chupa_chups> so is there any way to solve ???????????????????????????????/
[10:45] <LjL> chupa_chups, one question mark gives the idea
[10:45] <chupa_chups> ok
[10:45] <CVirus> I double that
[10:45] <thomas> hey how do you install programs? i can't do it
[10:45] <chupa_chups> u have answer then ?
[10:45] <thomas> the only way i know is apt-get but thats online
[10:45] <LjL> thomas: uh... yeah, you must be online, unless the programs are on the Ubuntu CD
[10:46] <brett> mc__: instead of critisizing my question why dont you help
[10:46] <thomas> no...
[10:46] <thomas> i downloaded programs but i can't install them
[10:46] <thomas> dont know how
[10:46] <LjL> thomas: what did you download?
[10:46] <chupa_chups> me too
[10:46] <thomas> several programs, open source
[10:46] <LjL> !software
[10:46] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[10:46] <mc__> brett: sorry i thought that the last thing you wrote were your only question
[10:47] <chupa_chups> i downloaded amsn and i dont know how to install
[10:47] <brett> mc__: np
[10:47] <mc__> brett: vmware packages seems to be broken,didnt work for me either
[10:47] <LjL> chupa_chups: amsn is in the repositories. don't download it manually, just get it from there.
[10:47] <LjL> !info amsn
[10:47] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[10:47] <brett> mc__: hmm
[10:47] <mc__> brett: try downloading from vmware.com
[10:47] <brett> mc__: well i need an emulator
[10:47] <cntb> !postfix
[10:47] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[10:47] <brett> mc__: any other ones i could get?
[10:47] <mc__> brett: qemu
[10:47] <DaSkreech> brett: aptitude
[10:48] <brett> DaSkreech: there you are
[10:48] <brett> DaSkreech: the problem is it is half way installed
[10:48] <brett> DaSkreech: and i cannot uninstall
[10:48] <brett> DaSkreech: should i still try aptitude?
[10:48] <LjL> thomas: if you downloaded programs in the "awkward ways" mentioned by the bot (i.e. manually), how to install them depends on the specific program. *but*, before even attempting that, *make sure* the stuff you need isn't in the repositories. if it is, install from there
[10:49] <DaSkreech> chupa_chups: try apt-get install mailx
[10:50] <DaSkreech> thomas: dpkg -i
[10:50] <brett> DaSkreech: how do i use aptitude?
[10:50] <brett> DaSkreech: again?L
[10:50] <DaSkreech> brett: sudo aptitude install <packagename>
[10:50] <cntb> chupa_chups:  copy paste this >>   sudo apt-get install amsn  >>> to konsole
[10:51] <norov> still doesnt work <_<
[10:51] <thomas> ok so i found what i wanted on the site
[10:52] <thomas> now what do i do
[10:52] <brett> DaSkreech: ok it is installing and asked me to ok the user agreement or something
[10:52] <thomas> i see a bunch of files
[10:52] <brett> DaSkreech: how do i tell it ok?
[10:52] <brett> DaSkreech: enter does not work
[10:52] <DaSkreech> try space
[10:52] <DaSkreech> or tab then enter/space
[10:52] <brett> tab
[10:52] <brett> was it
[10:52] <brett> thanks
[10:52] <DaSkreech> thomas: what are trying to install?
[10:52] <norov> When im trying to manage my SATA drive under installation, i cant
[10:53] <thomas> lol does it matter
[10:53] <thomas> i have many files here, like all in /usr/bin etc...
[10:53] <DaSkreech> thomas: yeah cause you could apt-get insatl it much faster :)
[10:54] <thomas> so if i find it on the site
[10:54] <thomas> what then i dl from there or apt-get
[10:54] <thomas> and what i just type the file name?
[10:55] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech,  i have WW2D 0.99.88 RC1 installed in my home folder, but i have no clue how to make it run ?
[10:55] <cntb> norov only 4 primary partitions are allowed swap partition is one of them. now many on your sata?
[10:55] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You downloaded the file?
[10:56] <brett> DaSkreech: it installed... thanks
[10:56] <BluesKaj> yup'
[10:56] <brett> DaSkreech: but now when i run
[10:56] <brett> DaSkreech: it wants to know which vm to run
[10:56] <BluesKaj> got yer URL,
[10:56] <brett> DaSkreech: or to open
[10:56] <norov> cntb: i got 3 partitions on sata
[10:56] <norov> and one free space
[10:56] <DaSkreech> ok from the konsole type ~/WW<tab> and enter
[10:56] <cntb> norov which 3?
[10:56] <norov> system
[10:56] <DaSkreech> brett: yup
[10:57] <norov> one with installed stuff
[10:57] <DaSkreech> thomas: which programs :)
[10:57] <norov> and one with music etc
[10:57] <brett> DaSkreech: umm i want it to run windows
[10:57] <brett> DaSkreech: where do i get the thing to open
[10:57] <cntb> then  ? norov?
[10:57] <DaSkreech> brett: Well grab your CD and install it
[10:57] <brett> DaSkreech: ok
[10:57] <thomas> hey once i install it where do i find it from?
[10:57] <DaSkreech> I think you create a machine first
[10:57] <brett> DaSkreech: can i install from linux?
[10:57] <norov> cntb:  yes, those are the 3
[10:57] <DaSkreech>  I'm not sure how to use it since I've never used it :)
[10:58] <DaSkreech> brett: yes :)
[10:58] <brett> DaSkreech: hmm... pop in the cd and then run vm?
[10:58] <Kr4t05> !grub
[10:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:58] <cntb> norov system installed stuff music ?
[10:58] <thomas> daskreech
[10:58] <cntb> that all is windows right?
[10:58] <norov> its
[10:58] <thomas> u there
[10:58] <norov> 1. System
[10:58] <cntb> ntfs ?fat32?
[10:58] <norov> 2. installed
[10:58] <norov> 3. other
[10:59] <norov> all are NTFS
[10:59] <cntb> why system and installed is not one?
[10:59] <BluesKaj>  /home/kaj/WW2D: is a directory
[10:59] <eilker> !kernel modules >eilker
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel modules - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> !m-a
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m-a - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> !module-assistant
[10:59] <ubotu> module-assistant: tool to make module package creation easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.6 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 404 kB
[10:59] <cntb> do you have movies? like files bigger than 4 GB?
[10:59] <cntb> norov?
[10:59] <thomas> screech
[10:59] <norov> yep
[11:00] <cntb> yep hav e movies?
[11:00] <norov> i just seperated them for easier organization
[11:00] <thomas> hey guys where do i find the program I installed
[11:00] <norov> yea, i got movies and stuff on one partition
[11:00] <thomas> it installed it for me but i dont know where it went :S
[11:00] <cntb> why system separated from installed?
[11:00] <cntb> norov?
[11:00] <norov> easier organization
[11:00] <norov> how come
[11:01] <cntb> you wasted your possibilities with one too many partition before linnux install
[11:01] <norov> so i may not seperate them? -_-
[11:01] <cntb> linux needs a primary partition and I think you havent got one spare
[11:01] <thomas> its not in the main panel
[11:02] <thomas> its not in k menu
[11:02] <norov> well i have a free space on 10gb
[11:02] <cntb> swap partition is needed too
[11:02] <norov> which isnt partitioned
[11:02] <cntb> also 10gb is modest
[11:02] <norov> which is where i thought id install
[11:02] <norov> it
[11:03] <cntb> while ubuntu wont ask for more than 3gb 3.5 gb you still want to grow somewhere
[11:03] <cntb> so norow my low limit for linux is 15 gb
[11:03] <norov> well thats not the problem here
[11:03] <norov> =p
[11:03] <DaSkreech> thomas: Yes
[11:03] <thomas> ur back
[11:03] <norov> the problem is that when i selec manually manage partitions
[11:03] <thomas> ok so yea say like nmap
[11:03] <norov> or whatever it would be in english
[11:03] <cntb> need Gparted or Partition magic or HirenCD to reorganize
[11:03] <thomas> i installed it
[11:03] <DaSkreech> brett: You need to do somethign first. I'm not sure how it's done
[11:04] <thomas> and i found it in konsole so i know how to use it
[11:04] <cntb> what is wrong with english?
[11:04] <thomas> but say i install something else, i can't find it in k menu
[11:04] <DaSkreech>  you create a Virtual machine which then can be used to install windows on
[11:04] <eilker> people what is kernel module for ?
[11:04] <DaSkreech> thomas: What did you install?
[11:05] <thomas> dsniff
[11:05] <cntb> eilker: to run system pal
[11:05] <cntb> no kernel no joy
[11:06] <DaSkreech> thomas: open a konsole and type dsniff
[11:06] <cntb> bonasera
[11:06] <thomas> ok and it starts sniffing
[11:06] <thomas> but what are the commands, and why can't i find it in k menu
[11:07] <DaSkreech> thomas: type man dsniff
[11:07] <DaSkreech> it will give you a manual file
[11:07] <DaSkreech> I assume you are following some tutorial
[11:07] <thomas> no....
[11:07] <thomas> no tutorial
[11:08] <thomas> listening to etho
[11:08] <norov> no one else had problem with partitioning sata?
[11:08] <thomas> listening on eth0
[11:09] <norov> what is wrong :E
[11:09] <DaSkreech> OK well then just read the man file it should give you enough info to be useful
[11:09] <DaSkreech> norov: What error do you get?
[11:09] <norov> DaSkreech: help me :)
[11:09] <norov> I dont get any errors
[11:09] <cntb> dsniff will learn and keep my own passwords?
[11:09] <thomas> what man file
[11:10] <DaSkreech> thomas: type man dsniff
[11:10] <cntb> norov
[11:10] <norov> I select /dev/sda: SCSI1 sda 400 GB ATA
[11:10] <thomas> how did you know i had to type "man"
[11:10] <cntb> you have to listen understand learn, over and over
[11:10] <norov> which is the drive i want to install on
[11:10] <norov> and then manually manage
[11:11] <cntb> wow norov 400gb and you let ubuntu have only 10 gb ?
[11:11] <cntb> norov that is illogical
[11:11] <Vladdy> how can I see at what speed kubuntu downloads packages?
[11:11] <Vladdy> during netinstall
[11:11] <norov> nah
[11:11] <cntb> burn your movies and spare alot more for ubuntu norov
[11:12] <norov> its just for experiment
[11:12] <norov> well
[11:12] <norov> it should work anyway :D
[11:12] <cntb> so you are not serious norov
[11:12] <cntb> i.e not to betaken seriously norov
[11:12] <norov> well anyway, where you usually see the partitions and can edit them
[11:12] <norov> it is empty -.-
[11:13] <thomas> how did you know I had to type "MAN"
[11:13] <Vladdy> we see!
[11:13] <DaSkreech> thomas: becasue that's the name of the command the gives you manuals
[11:13] <cntb> norov you are going the wrong way ( Midtown madness 1) ;-)
[11:13] <BluesKaj> where's the best place to install a file like world wind ?
[11:13] <thomas> really oh
[11:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: I would say /opt
[11:13] <thomas> i see where can i read up on this stuff
[11:14] <DaSkreech> !tldp
[11:14] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[11:14] <norov> !sda
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <norov> !sata
[11:14] <Vladdy> hah ;p
[11:14] <cntb> I give up you dont read enough to understand what you are doing norov
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <DaSkreech> thomas: The last two links
[11:14] <cntb> good luck norov
[11:14] <norov> cntb: you talk about irrelevant stuff, but thanks for trying
[11:14] <DaSkreech> norov: tried searching for Sata on the Wiki?
[11:14] <cntb> nothing was irrelevant norov
[11:14] <norov> how is burning my movies gonna help me?
[11:15] <cntb> I install dual booots every sing,e machine. installed over 20 machines now fedoras suses ubuntus OK norov ?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, it says not writeable by current user
[11:15] <thomas> what links
[11:15] <thomas> oh nm
[11:15] <cntb> spare some space defrag also is very important
[11:15] <BluesKaj>  /opt
[11:16] <cntb> norov dont you skipthat step
[11:16] <DaSkreech> !tldp > thomas
[11:16] <norov> So
[11:16] <norov> I defrag and it will work?
[11:16] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: try sudo it
[11:16] <Vladdy> weeee.. kubuntu installing
[11:16] <cntb> your job is not that easy norov when you dont understand what you are doing
[11:16] <norov> its a brand new disk without a single byte written on the linux parition
[11:16] <thomas> one more question
[11:17] <BluesKaj> it  has an instller program
[11:17] <thomas> when i'm looking at the manuals, how do i go say to the last page right away
[11:17] <norov> cntb: feels like youre kidding with me -.-
[11:17] <thomas> cause i press "space" to switch pages
[11:17] <thomas> but theres so many
[11:17] <cntb> norov wrong again
[11:17] <Vladdy> thomas: shift end ;p
[11:17] <cntb> nobody here wants to kid you
[11:17] <norov> Well then
[11:17] <norov> tell me what is wrong
[11:18] <cntb> unless some troll starts to play helpful
[11:18] <norov> I select SDA
[11:18] <thomas> ok cool i see but what about if i want to skip like to  page 10
[11:18] <norov> which is the SATA driv
[11:18] <thomas> i can't scroll :(
[11:18] <norov> then i choose manage paritions manually
[11:19] <norov> then i get an empty window
[11:19] <DaSkreech> thomas: page down works
[11:19] <DaSkreech> or try <end>
[11:19] <cntb> empty window
[11:19] <thomas> alright thanks guys
[11:19] <DaSkreech> thomas: Sure come on back
[11:20] <thomas> alright
[11:20] <DaSkreech> !classroom
[11:20] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[11:20] <thomas> ty
[11:20] <Vladdy> thomas: you can search for specific text with /foo which will search for foo
[11:20] <cntb> first of all there is so called "alternate  ubuntu CD" is that what you boot norov?
[11:20] <DaSkreech> thomas: Might want to look at that page they may have some more info you might want to read up on
[11:20] <cntb> that alternate CD is more flexible
[11:20] <norov> cntb: no, i use desktop
[11:20] <cntb> !alternate
[11:20] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:20] <Vladdy> ubuntu classroom, cute :-)
[11:20] <thomas> yea k the links, alright thanks, btw do you type my name everytime you say something
[11:20] <thomas> or a shortcut
[11:20] <norov> no
[11:21] <norov> tab completion
[11:21] <norov> th<tab>
[11:21] <norov> ah what the heck
[11:21] <thomas> oh cool
[11:21] <thomas> norov:  it works!
[11:21] <norov> screw kubuntu :D
[11:21] <Vladdy> lol
[11:21] <cntb> good luck norov
[11:21] <Vladdy> it finished installing..
[11:22] <DaSkreech> norov: Hold up
[11:22] <DaSkreech> norov: Have you looked on the Wiki?
[11:22] <Vladdy> cute
[11:22] <Vladdy> it even finds my hardened LFS on my other disk, not bad
[11:22] <norov> doing now
[11:22] <Vladdy> except it fails horribly :D
[11:23] <DaSkreech> norov: What CD are you using?
[11:23] <Vladdy> maybe i should file a bug
[11:23] <norov> DaSkreech: Desktop
[11:23] <DaSkreech> ok
[11:23] <DaSkreech> norov: are you on it now?
[11:24] <Vladdy> !bug
[11:24] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[11:24] <sc0tt_> !nvidia
[11:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:24] <norov> DaSkreech: yes
[11:24] <norov> !dev
[11:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:24] <DaSkreech> You only have sata drives in the machine ?
[11:24] <norov> no, 1 sata and 1 ide
[11:25] <norov> when i select the ide, i can manage paritions etc
[11:25] <norov> when i select the sata, i cant do anything
[11:25] <DaSkreech> ok what do you get if you type ls /dev/hd<tab><tab> ?
[11:26] <norov> hda hdb hd1 hdb1 hdb5
[11:26] <norov> but the sata drive is called sda
[11:26] <DaSkreech> That's Cd rom and First hard drive?
[11:27] <ambehall> hej nn svensk?
[11:27] <DaSkreech> !se
[11:27] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:27] <norov> is that a question? =P
[11:27] <norov> if it is, i dont know
[11:27] <norov> im a beginner with linux
[11:27] <DaSkreech> it's asking for a confirmation
[11:28] <norov> sda is my sata drive
[11:28] <DaSkreech> ok :)
[11:28] <norov> tabbing on /dev/sda i get sda1-5
[11:28] <norov> 6 even
[11:28] <DaSkreech> Ok press Alt+Space and type qtpa then enter
[11:28] <norov> sda1, sda2 etc
[11:29] <norov> gotta love katapult :D
[11:29] <norov> ehm
[11:29] <norov> i started it up and chose sda
[11:29] <norov> then it disappeared O.o
[11:29] <Vladdy> hmm
[11:30] <Vladdy> what use is it to FSCK on ext3 filesystems? :S
[11:30] <norov> seems like it has difficulties accessing the drive
[11:30] <norov> no need for drivers or such?
[11:31] <lnxkde> hey guys someone here workds with wallpapers ?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't be
[11:32] <DaSkreech> can you run parted from the command line
[11:32] <norov>  the application keeps exiting when i select sda -.-
[11:32] <DaSkreech> norov: use sudo parted
[11:32] <norov> is there any hotkey to terminal?
[11:32] <DaSkreech> well if you have konqueror open then F4
[11:33] <DaSkreech>  other than that i use Alt+Space -> kons
[11:33] <norov> okay
[11:33] <DaSkreech> can parted see the sda drive?
[11:33] <norov> there is an addon
[11:33] <DaSkreech> an addon to the drive?
[11:33] <norov> no, i was talking about a shell addon
[11:33] <norov> but the parted cant see sda
[11:34] <norov> it opens hda read-only
[11:34] <Vladdy> reality is an alien concept
[11:34] <Kalak> I have a question if anyone is avaliable to awnser for me
[11:34] <Riddell> is qtparted is being crap install gparted and use that
[11:34] <Riddell> s/is/if/
[11:35] <Kalak> has anyone from the kubuntu team found a fix for the gtk errors yet?
[11:35] <Riddell> what gtk errors?
[11:35] <Kalak> Gdk-WARNING **: gdk_window_set_back_pixmap(): pixmap must have a colormap
[11:35] <Kalak> gdk errors i mean*
[11:35] <Riddell> Kalak: edgy or dapper?
[11:35] <Kalak> dapper
[11:36] <Kalak> I had it fixed from an update before but a reinstall messed me up
[11:36] <Vladdy> apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ? ;-)
[11:36] <Kalak> nah, dun wanna hop over to edgy yet
[11:37] <Riddell> Kalak: does it cause any problems?
[11:37] <Kalak> cant run gtkpod or gimp
[11:37] <Kalak> firefox is slow
[11:37] <norov> well i think ill go to bed
[11:37] <Vladdy> hmm.. dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade to edgy iirc
[11:38] <norov> thanks for the help, cya
[11:38] <Vladdy> would have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade to that ;-)
[11:38] <brett> hmm adept wont load again
[11:38] <brett> it keeps crashing
[11:39] <Kalak> no updates anyways
[11:39] <brett> any ideas
[11:40] <brett> can someone help me fix adept pleaseL
[11:42] <RockStar86> salve
[11:43] <DaSkreech> brett: does it have an error message if you open it from the konsole?
[11:43] <londo4> hallo Help, I try to play a movie with kaffeine palyer and I get this error:No plugin found to handle this resource (/home/londo4/Desktop/multimedia/Crash(2004)1/Crash (2004).avi)
[11:43] <DaSkreech> londo4: Might need codecs
[11:44] <RockStar86> probably
[11:44] <londo4> and Details: xine: couldn't find demux for >/home/londo4/Desktop/multimedia/Crash(2004)1/Crash (2004).avi<
[11:44] <Riddell> see RestricedFormats
[11:45] <DaSkreech> Jucato:  :)
[11:45] <jager> so i dist-upgraded to edgy and now my wifi card isn't working
[11:45] <DaSkreech> !codecs > londo4
[11:45] <Jucato> hi DaSkreech
[11:45] <jager> seems like a pretty common complaint
[11:45] <jager> is there a common fix?
[11:46] <DaSkreech> we seem to hand off to each other :)
[11:46] <brett> DaSkreech: umm not sure
[11:46] <brett> DaSkreech: how do i open from console
[11:46] <DaSkreech> can you help brett with his adept problem
[11:46] <DaSkreech> brett: try kdesu adept
[11:46] <jager> it works still with 2.6.15-27-386 but not with the new kernel
[11:46] <jager> with this kernel nvidia-glx doesn't work
[11:46] <DaSkreech> it will ask you for your password but look at what the konsole is outputting. If you can pastebin it that would be great
[11:46] <jager> 00:09.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[11:46] <brett> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:46] <brett>   Major opcode:  147
[11:47] <DaSkreech> brett: stop
[11:47] <brett>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:47] <DaSkreech> use pastebin
[11:47] <brett>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:47] <brett> Failed to open device
[11:47] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | brett
[11:47] <ubotu> brett: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:47] <brett> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[11:47] <brett>   Major opcode:  147
[11:47] <brett>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:47] <brett>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:47] <brett> Failed to open device
[11:47] <brett> sh:
[11:47] <brett> adept: not found
[11:47] <DaSkreech> brett stop!!!
[11:47] <ren_> hi all
[11:47] <brett> DaSkreech: ok
[11:47] <DaSkreech> Use pastebin
[11:47] <DaSkreech> !pastebin | brett
[11:47] <brett> DaSkreech: ok
[11:47] <brett> DaSkreech: do you want me to paste this one to paste bin or for now on?
[11:48] <DaSkreech> brett: can you give me the output of which adept
[11:48] <DaSkreech> brett: if it takes up more than two lines use pastebin
[11:48] <DaSkreech> that's a good rule of thumb
[11:48] <brett> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33548/
[11:48] <localghost> hey guys the last kubuntu live CD does not run on my computer, I suppose the problem is my motherboard Abit KV8 Pro-3rd Eye pls help
[11:48] <Vladdy> define 'not running'
[11:49] <DaSkreech> !doesn't work
[11:49] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[11:49] <DaSkreech> brett: what does the command "which adept" give you
[11:49] <localghost> there is no error at all the screen is fading  to black
[11:50] <brett> DaSkreech: it doesnt say anything
[11:50] <RockStar86> run the safe graphic mode
[11:50] <DaSkreech> brett: really?
[11:50] <RockStar86> if you can
[11:50] <localghost> installation proceeds to some point and then the screen is going down...
[11:50] <brett> DaSkreech: yeah
[11:50] <Riddell> it's called adept_manager in edgy
[11:50] <DaSkreech> brett: can you run sudo apt-get install adept
[11:50] <DaSkreech> Riddell: all the time?
[11:50] <DaSkreech> ok
[11:50] <Vladdy> DaSkreech: just wait a little longer? i was impatient first time too
[11:51] <brett> DaSkreech: it says "/usr/bin/adept_manager"
[11:51] <DaSkreech> Hmm ok
[11:51] <brett> when i use type "which adept_manager"
[11:51] <RockStar86> i don't think the problem is the patience
[11:51] <DaSkreech> then try kdesu adept_manager
[11:51] <DaSkreech> inkwell: bye!
[11:52] <EvilIdler> My windows have stopped popping to front when I click them, and toggling options in
[11:52] <localghost> if I see some error I will know what is the problem.. but the lack of any error at all makes me think my motherboard is not supported. however I will run with safe graphic mode and will come back.. thanks
[11:52] <brett> DaSkreech: it seems to be frozen
[11:52] <RockStar86> try to run the safe graphic mode or re-burn the cd/dvd low looow looooow
[11:52] <Jucato> what?
[11:52] <DaSkreech> can you help brett? :)
[11:52] <EvilIdler> Argh. Correction: all KDE windows have stopped raising AND focusing on click :/
[11:52] <DaSkreech> I gotta run he's been here for a while compounding adept issues :)
[11:53] <Jucato> let me check
[11:53] <DaSkreech> Riddell: thanks
[11:53] <inkwell> happy turkeyday all
[11:53] <brett> DaSkreech: here is the output though.. it is still running though http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33550/
[11:53] <RockStar86> i've found the same problem on an acer notebook
[11:53] <EvilIdler> I can only focus a window if I click its title bar, or alt-tab. Any ideas what can cause this?
[11:53] <brett> DaSkreech: is Riddle going to help me? or were you asking someone else
[11:53] <Jucato> brett: those error messages are normal. Is Adept now running?
[11:53] <RockStar86> localghost's problem...
[11:53] <DaSkreech> brett: hopefully Jucato
[11:54] <inkwell> anyone know much about beryl?
[11:54] <DaSkreech> I was thanking Riddell for pointing out that adept is called adept_updater
[11:54] <brett> Jucato: no
[11:54] <DaSkreech> inkwell: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:54] <localghost> RockStar86 ? I will appreciate any advise
[11:54] <Jucato> DaSkreech: adept_updater is different from adept_manager, too
[11:54] <DaSkreech> Jucato: ask him for the last part of the output
[11:54] <DaSkreech> That's what I thought
[11:55] <DaSkreech> I'm going now though
[11:55] <DaSkreech>  i'm 30 minutes late already
[11:55] <DaSkreech> seeya
[11:55] <Jucato> brett: what happens when you run "kdesu adept_manager" from the Konsole? besides those BadDevice error messages?
[11:56] <cntb> samba share read only /home/user.  windows tries to read but is asked a user password multiple times .have come across such issue? what is the workaround?
[11:56] <brett> Jucato: it froze kind of
[11:56] <brett> Jucato: it kept running but no window apear
[11:56] <cntb> Jucato: ?
[11:56] <brett> Jucato: i had to Alt C it
[11:57] <RockStar86> bye bye guys, good night
[11:57] <Jucato> brett: no matter how long you wait, Adept doesn't appear?
[11:57] <RockStar86> see you tomorrow
[11:58] <EvilIdler> KDE windows are broken. Anyone know how I can force focus behaviour to reset when the control centre doesn't make any difference?
[11:58] <brett> Jucato: well i pressed alt c after waiting a good minute or two
[11:58] <brett> Jucato: i am running command again now and i will wait longer
[11:58] <Jucato> brett: btw, you can't launch Adept Manager from the menu?
[11:59] <brett> Jucato: it asks for my password and never loads
[11:59] <brett> Jucato: when i launch from the menu
[11:59] <loz> i ve had this proble too
[12:00] <loz> have you downloaded blootbot?
[12:00] <loz> can you use apt-get?
[12:00] <loz> if so open a terminal
[12:00] <brett> blootbot? loz what is that
[12:01] <loz> it's something i selected on adept
[12:01] <loz> ant it broke my adept package manager
[12:01] <brett> loz: no vmware broke my machine
[12:01] <brett> loz: i dont know if apt get works... i think it does
[12:02] <loz> try using it from console
[12:02] <brett> and download what?
[12:02] <loz> for example qp-get gdesklets
[12:02] <loz> sorry apt-get install gdesklets
[12:03] <loz> or why dont you get an update
[12:03] <brett> loz: what is that?
[12:03] <loz> open a terminal
[12:03] <brett> loz: an update for what? i think i am completly updated
[12:03] <loz> type sudo apt-get update
[12:04] <loz> and then apt-get install upgrade
[12:04] <brett> loz that works fine
[12:04] <loz> ok
[12:04] <loz> but you cant access adept manager right?
[12:04] <brett> loz but adept still doesnt run
[12:05] <loz> i ve had this problem too
[12:05] <cntb> old new issue
[12:05] <cntb> samba share read only /home/user.  windows tries to read but is asked a user password multiple times .have come across such issue? what is the workaround?
[12:05] <loz> have you rebooted since?
[12:05] <brett> i can try that again
[12:05] <loz> ctrl alt backspace
[12:06] <loz> mine was due to installing this blootbot
[12:06] <brett> loz ok i will try that
[12:06] <loz> hope it works
[12:07] <loz> does your add/remov work?
[12:07] <brett> loz it doesnt
[12:07] <loz> brett wha happens when you tpe your password?
[12:08] <brett> it just doesnt load
[12:08] <loz> brett that is strange, has it ever worked?
[12:09] <brett> loz yes earlier today
[12:09] <brett> brb...restarting xserver
[12:10] <loz> bret, i have had this problem, and a good old reboot did the trick, are you on edgy?