=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66.252.57.91] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] anyone on feisty notice apt/aptitude not working? [12:15] I couldn't even boot into feisty (vmware) right now... kernel panic :( [12:20] would apt crashing be concidered security issue? [12:20] eh i can change it later too hard to think today [12:41] Riddell: I just wrote a script to download po files for guidance since it doesn't work with svn2dist [12:42] Riddell: I send it to sime eventually [12:42] it does, but you need to work out the magic place in svn2dist to edit [12:42] and the Makefile.am [12:42] Riddell: yes I know but well editing svn2dist everytime is a pain [12:43] Riddell: it can be done with a 2 lines script, and it works very nicelly so... :) [12:43] :) [12:44] http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/37 [12:44] okay the second line is ugly.... I'll rewrite it better later :) === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] hum it misses the new icons......... I'll have to check at ken svn branch [12:51] pinheir0: ping ? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:51] hi Tonio_ [12:52] hey :) [12:52] going to bed soon [12:52] pinheir0: any idea where ken has put the new guidance-powermanager icons ? [12:52] no idea [12:52] :) [12:52] there are not in his ken/ directory on oxygen branch [12:52] andnot in guidance...... [12:52] okay I'll wait for him to had them :) [12:52] i think he send them to sebas [12:52] is there a problem with pythonqt3? [12:52] or pyqt3 [12:53] whatever the latest update was === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] pinheir0: found them hehe :) [01:06] pinheir0: thanks [01:06] Hobbsee: morning! :) [01:07] hey Jucato [01:07] Hobbsee: have you seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek [01:07] exactly what I've been looking for. almost perfect! (except for the time...) === Hobbsee looks [01:08] Jucato: has it been announced yet? [01:08] Riddell: yep. in Ubuntu Fridge and Jono's blog === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:09] Jucato: way cool [01:10] and no evil marketing, excellent [01:11] Hobbsee: yeah. I have to slightly turn my timezone upside down a bit :) [01:11] hehe [01:12] the sessions are practically 11pm-5am here. But I think it's worth it [01:12] Hobbsee: how come neither you nor Riddell will be giving a session? shouldn't the King and Queen be there? :P === Hobbsee looks what they are in her timezone [01:13] Jucato: either i wasnt asked, or i was, and said no, not understanding what it was. i think it was the latter [01:13] and Riddell needs to squish all the bugs [01:13] Hobbsee: if you're still on DST, just add 3 hours to mine, afaik === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] 2am - 8am. yay. [01:15] hehehe === Hobbsee may be able to get to some of them === Hobbsee may not have internet, though === goldenear [n=goldenea@AToulouse-257-1-57-188.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:19] nixternal: fixed feisty yet? === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pinheir0 [n=pinheiro@82.155.220.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.51.188.228] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:59] _Sime: any clue what this is? http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.announce/6636 [02:59] http://pythonqt.sourceforge.net/ [03:00] ah, embedding python into qt, not qt bindings for python === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neoncode [n=neoncode@84.13.221.19] has joined #kubuntu-devel === orkid [n=orkid@bas1-barrie18-1242381329.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] Hobbsee: feisty is still broken for me [03:42] i will probably fix it this weekend when i get some time..just do a reload probably [03:42] nixternal: did you upgrade udev or coreutils? [03:42] nixternal: do you know how to chroot? [03:42] not 100% [03:43] !chroot [03:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box [03:43] i just did a typical upgrade yesterday and it wouldn't boot afterwards [03:44] nixternal: dchroot /media/feisty and upgrade it from there [03:44] yes, there were two updates that broke, and were quickly fixed [03:44] i can't log into that machine though [03:44] or wherever you've got hte feisty / mounted [03:44] you've only got feisty on it? [03:44] ya [03:45] ah [03:45] that is my test machine [03:45] you can use a live cd for ti [03:45] hmm..i will give that a try [03:54] is it normal that an upgrade removes hal? (feisty) [03:56] Jucato: probably not.... [03:56] why can't you login? it won't boot? [03:56] orkid: yes [03:56] what part of the boot? [03:56] the first, iirc [03:56] grub problem? [03:56] er, just after that [03:56] ya, it locks right after grub, and gives yout he no job stuff [03:56] it's a coreutils/udev problem [03:56] i just did an upgrade from 6.10 to feisty and i couldn't boot. [03:56] nixternal: recovery mode does nothing, presumably [03:57] another victim [03:57] no, recovery mode is dead as well [03:57] oh ok. my grub entries got messed up and partition #s were changed. different problem i suppose. [03:57] orkid: quite possibly. if you know which partitions are which, you can just use /dev/hda# or whatever, and change it later [03:58] yeah, that's what i did (used the grub command line to boot) [03:58] it seems like startup of programs (eg firefox) is slower. don't know why. [03:58] nixternal: tony* just mentioned it in #ubuntu+1 [03:58] oh well...im heading to bed..i gotta wake up to get in line at the local best buy so i can get me a new laptop at 5am ;) [04:00] nice [04:00] oh tomorrow's friday. [04:00] i need a new laptop... === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.222.110] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:52] hrm, it appears that printing has died on feisty [04:53] able to retrieve printer info. Printer answered: [04:53] client-error-bad-reques [04:54] printer URI: ipp://%E0%FB/%08%80?2%0850.205:631/ipp === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Parkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-165.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:35] Hobbsee printing is generally dying from the first week the the last one of every development cycle :) [05:35] Tonio_: so it seems. i've never seen that error though :) [05:36] Hobbsee I'll give a try tomorrow [05:37] Hobbsee at the moment I'm trying to get rid of kmplayer and fix kaffeine so that it doesn't crash konqueror [05:37] fair enough [05:37] I've found an interesting couple of patches at suse [05:37] oh nice! what about? [05:37] the first one removes xinitthread from kaffeine and the second one performs the same in konqueror [05:38] the problem in fact is in xinelibs, and that looks like a working workaround [05:38] if it works, we will be able to ship one player for all, would be nice [05:40] the point is I never saw any bug report concerning this issue for opensuse, that's why I looked carezfully at the patches they had for konqueror and kaffeine :) [05:40] nice :) [05:40] doesn't mean it'll work, but I'm confident in it [05:43] :) === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-134.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@93.229.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@93.229.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX_ [n=Didier@93.229.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@pool-71-243-246-253.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freet15 [n=freet15@61.51.188.228] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@pnsgw1-client122.demo.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-133-136.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === goldenear [n=goldenea@AToulouse-257-1-57-188.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === morn|off [n=mornfall@redhat.usu.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === OdyX [n=Didier@93.229.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-5-244.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.117.173] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@210.213.222.110] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@pnsgw1-client122.demo.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === el [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54954956.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:00] Riddell: almost done with those MIR's i'll post them here in a few minutes [01:00] btw moins all [01:02] imbrandon: rocking === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54954956.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:13] moins kwwii apokryphos gnomefreak jsgotangco [01:14] hiya imbrandon [01:14] hello! [01:14] howdy [01:14] moin imbrandon === gnomefreak spending today on finding out what is causing apt aptitude to crash. it seems to happen after kubuntu-desktop is installed :( [01:17] the problem is only i can produce it. and its after everything is installed that it does it === goldenear [n=goldenea@AToulouse-257-1-57-188.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ttoine [n=ttoine@tri69-2-89-80-32-83.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ttoine [n=ttoine@tri69-2-89-80-32-83.dsl.club-internet.fr] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Tonio_ [n=tonio@203.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:01] yop [02:02] isn't that a youghart drink from france? [02:02] youghart ? [02:03] wdtm ? [02:03] ah yagourt ! [02:03] something like that [02:03] yes it is a friendly way to say hello *and* a french liquid yogourt :) [02:04] Riddell: I spent all the day fixing kaffeine to avoid crash in konq [02:04] Riddell: I succeded, but that crashes kfmclient :( [02:04] how did you do that? [02:04] Riddell: works with binary konqurror though [02:04] by removing xinitthread from kaffeine and using it in konqueror instead [02:04] that works [02:05] but kfmclient crashes, I don't understand why [02:05] with konqueror it now works like a charm, so I don't know it investigating a bit more to improve my patch is usefull or not ? [02:06] it would be so nice having just one player out of the box... [02:06] Riddell: interested in the segfault output of kfmclient and the patch ? maybe you can fix it easilly [02:06] kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing -> craches [02:06] konqueror -> perfect [02:06] shouldn't be hard to fix I hope [02:08] I don't have time today, but keep it around to look at in future [02:09] Riddell: okay thanks [02:09] Riddell: ho your python-kde3 package causes problems, guidance failed to build when I uploaded [02:09] moins Tonio_ [02:09] it worked before your upload what done [02:10] hey imbrandon [02:10] ug [02:10] Riddell: yes and even the built package doesn't work now, the modules are broken here [02:11] ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt) [02:11] this is the error reported by powermanager [02:13] ug [02:16] Riddell: concerning kaffeine, the issue is due to xine architecture, so another solution would be to switch back to gstreamer [02:16] xine requires that xinitthread is initialized in fact otherwise it crashes [02:17] gstreamer doesn't need this [02:17] there's no gstreamer 0.10 backend in kaffeine [02:17] Riddell: suse has patched it to work with 0.10 ;) [02:17] Riddell: I spent all the night on that so I know exactly what does suse, mandriva, fedora etc do :) [02:18] so if it is just a matter or gstreamer 0.10 we can patch it [02:18] the point is amarok [02:18] imbrandon: what is the status of the gstreamer engine ? I couldn't find it [02:18] is it abandoned ? [02:19] Tonio_: interesting [02:19] Riddell: yes ;) [02:19] Riddell: okay here is the plan, I'll reactivate the gstreamer plugin in kaffeine with the suse patch and test [02:19] the main gstreamer engine doesn't seem to be developed, but I read of another engine which just runs gstreamer from the command line to work [02:19] Tonio_: gst overall or in kde/amarok ? [02:20] imbrandon: in amarok [02:20] amarok-gstreamer package doesn't exist and amarok-engines doesn't provide it [02:20] I'm testing with kaffeine [02:20] Tonio_: the developers just gave it up over gst 0.8 but they planed to relook at it in amarok 2.0 / gst 0.10 but i dont think that is active atm [02:21] Tonio_: right upstream dropped it for the moment [02:21] imbrandon: hum.... and what about the engine Riddell was talking about ? [02:21] there is no amarok-gstreamer anymore, their might be sometime [02:21] i dont know about the one Riddell is talking about [02:22] I'm not super keen to move to gstreamer though, stuff like DVDs don't work and it would stop the install-mp3 script from working [02:22] but it might work, but i can ask markey and eean today about the gst amarok status again [02:22] imbrandon: if switching to gstreamer with the kaffeine suse patch works, it would be interesting to look at this evnetually [02:22] Tonio_: sometime, but it would require lots of changes like Riddell said [02:22] Riddell: ah ? that's just a matter of installing another package no ? [02:22] Riddell: and gstreamer can now use w32codecs [02:23] Tonio_: not really, it would require changes to gst ( that are being made upstream now but might not be ready for feisty ) [02:23] so they can do with totem what we do with amarok [02:23] ( that was talked about at UDS , thats why i went to those BoF's ) [02:23] imbrandon: hehe, okay [02:24] imbrandon: I though the script was just a matter of amarok, not the engine in use [02:24] so in the LONG run yes, maybe, but short term it would not work right, but LONG term we're looking at phoneon anyhow with kde4 ( that will use gst ) [02:24] Tonio_: no its part of amarok-xine , not amarok proper [02:24] imbrandon: okay didn't knew this........ sucks ! [02:25] there is no solution in fact....... [02:25] okay let's stay with kmplayer at the moment [02:25] i dont think we should worry about gst untill feisty+1 and kde4 IMHO [02:25] but thats just my experince [02:25] imbrandon: well the point was that gst was the solution for the kaffeine issue in fact [02:26] ahh [02:26] imbrandon: the crash when embedded in konq is due to xine arch [02:26] yea we need to find a nice wideo player that does mostly only videos ( like totem for gnome ) and has a plugin [02:26] imbrandon: this is why ubuntu doesn't have any problems with firefox -> they use gstreamer [02:26] and works with xine [02:26] Tonio, imbrandon: what kubuntu work needs done in the next week? [02:27] Riddell: I have to finish the multimedia stuff, revu kds too [02:27] but the merge process for main is almost done [02:27] man, we tock [02:27] rock too [02:27] Riddell: umm i just finished the last of the amarok stuff last nigth and uploaded and planned on working on the .directory stuff from the k-d-s bof, that was _my_ plans [02:27] yea most of the merges for main are done [02:28] very very few left [02:28] Riddell: the point is that I did lots of uvf exception requests during edgy, so I don't have a lot of packages to merge ;) [02:28] ohh BTW while all 3 of us are here [02:28] imbrandon: well I'll upload kaffeine in a few minutes, but I wanted to try once more to fix this before upload [02:28] I'll remove the patch and upload right now [02:28] PLEASE dont upload amaork 1.4.5 right away when it comes out PLEASE [02:29] ohh BTW while all 3 of us are here ^^ [02:29] there is a major packaging delta from debian --> ubuntu and since i'm uploading both debian and ubuntu's now ( via ana in debian ) i want to try to sync them with 1.4.5 [02:30] is the reason ^^ [02:30] the point is I really do't understand why kaffeine upstream doesn't want to perform like kmplayer does....... [02:30] he considers that's xine fault so that's it......... developpers......... [02:30] imbrandon: when is 1.4.5 coming out? and why not upload it? [02:30] imbrandon: I won't ;) I only uploaded amarok once including my changes, but know I consider this your work, not mine [02:31] Riddell: there is a major packaging delta from debian --> ubuntu and since i'm uploading both debian and ubuntu's now ( via ana in debian ) i want to try to sync them with 1.4.5 [02:31] imbrandon: right, parsed now :) [02:31] i wanna upload it to debian first then merge [02:31] imbrandon: just be sure to keep my changes when you merge :) [02:31] Tonio_: i will [02:31] its just right not the orig.tar.gz are diffrent so i hade to fake sync [02:31] i want to fix that for 1.4.5 but it will have to be in debian first [02:31] imbrandon: I wonder if debian would mind adding the same epoch to amarok we foolishly gave it [02:32] Riddell: heheh i'm already ahead of you [02:32] i'm working with ana to co-maintain it and he said we could possible do that === kozz [i=kozz@81-232-134-52-no22.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:32] sooonish i *hope* i get co-maintainer on it [02:34] anyhow , other than that amarok stuff, i planned on getting a good .directory plan togather and start implmenting it this week, for 2 reasons , the grey folder thing instead of .hidden and the directory translations [02:34] Riddell: ^^ [02:34] thats my plans this week, as most of the main merges are done [02:35] ( and work on some universe merges as i have time ) [02:35] Riddell / Tonio_ : is the usb unmounting thing on either of your TODO's ? ( will probably have to work with _Sime close on that one ) [02:36] if not i'll add that to mine [02:36] imbrandon: yes, that's a major one [02:36] imbrandon: according to _Sime that's not due to his patches, but I wonder.........; nobody except kubuntu users are reporting this [02:36] Tonio_: do you have time to look that over with _Sime ? it /might/ not be due to his patches but would be nice to be fixed [02:37] next week I'll have time yes [02:37] kk [02:39] imbrandon: I don't think we should put a .directory in every / directory, I'd rather just in /home and /media with special icons for those two [02:40] hrm ok [02:40] you dont want to make the others gray ? [02:41] ( note they will have to be in everyt directory anyhow for translations ) [02:41] no, it would stop working if anyone added another directory [02:41] and I think people will object to having dozens of .directory files [02:41] true and true [02:41] translations? [02:41] directory name translations [02:41] they were looking at using them for that also [02:42] not for / directories surely? [02:43] it would work for /home and /media but translating /etc and the like make no sense [02:43] that was my understanding , but i may be wrong, thus the plan for it also hehehe [02:43] ~/Desktop is the main one its needed for [02:43] right [02:43] hum ok, well that makes that easy [02:43] and ~/Pictures, ~/Music if we start using those [02:43] is there a project you would like me to look at over the next week then [02:44] yea, i would like to start using those ( the ~/ ) as digicam and such already tries to [02:46] okay kaffeine uploaded [02:47] Riddell: I'd like to fix guidance eventually :) the packaging is done now, so let me paste you the buildlog error [02:47] back in ~20 minutes [02:49] imbrandon: when you're back, are you going to merge kwin-style-crystal ? [02:49] I can do it [02:49] Tonio_: go ahead if you want [02:49] i was going to but it wasent high on my list [02:50] ok really afk ~20 minutes ( food ) [02:50] okay bye ! [02:51] Riddell: kdebluetooth is done too, but I didn't use the dbus stuff at the moment, too experimental [02:51] ok [02:51] Riddell: also I didn't sync with the debian packaging since there are errors in it (files conflicting with kdelibs etc...) [02:51] yeah, that's fine [02:51] I don't know if it works on debian.... [02:52] hum I'll give a try at kdebindings everyday too.... the error is outside of the package the maybe it'll be fixed one day.... [02:52] I'll just have to build it everyday and check [02:52] Tonio_: by the way java bindings have been removed from SVN, so I don't care if they're not in kubuntu [02:53] Riddell: hum cool, we can to an svn sync eventually [02:53] or just hack the tarball :) [02:53] okay I'll do that, thanks for the tip [02:54] Riddell: I will not sync kmplayer too since debian doesn't split the package, so I maintain it appart of debian, I just sync the patches in fact [02:54] groovy [02:55] we're almost done :) we will have a bunch of time to work on the specs, that's cool :) [02:56] I have to fix jabbin and wengophone packages too... [02:56] hi there :) [02:56] concerning wengophone it looks like the error is due to the scons build [02:56] Tonio_: anything new on that KWallet issue? [02:56] works when built with cmake [02:56] Kryczek: no........ [02:56] the kde maintainer didn't even answer....... [02:57] Tonio_: I talked with him [02:57] Riddell: shouldn't we have a look at pwmanager ? [02:57] and was highly disappointed [02:57] he's stubborn and won't do anything about the issue [02:57] not even help us [02:57] Kryczek: bah he doesn't read the bug reports [02:57] s/help/guide [02:57] Kryczek: but the issue isn't in kwallet code in fact [02:57] Tonio_: you want the conversation log? [02:57] I reverted the code and that doesn't help [02:57] ok [02:57] the problem is in kicker or kdeinit [02:58] but still I found his behavior highly irresponsible [02:58] Tonio_: we can look at it, but the kwallet author is exceedingly competant, I'd rather work out what was wrong with it [02:58] kwallet crashes on logout in fact so that the changes are not saved [02:58] Riddell: bah competant, but doesn't take care of bug reports....... [02:59] Riddell: well technically kwalet works [02:59] the problem is that due to kdeinit (which sometimes breaks knetworkmanager too) kwallet crashes on logout [02:59] and kwallet only saves changes in the wallet on close [03:00] the good workarround would be that kwallet saves the wallet on every input === Riddell posts to kubuntu-devel [03:00] I don't understand why it doesn't work like that [03:00] Riddell: if someone can do that patch, it'll work [03:00] Riddell: there is a bug id on kde, let me give you the bug number [03:01] Kryczek: show me the logs please ;) [03:01] Riddell: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136411 [03:01] KDE bug 136411 in kwallet "KWallet loses new passwords when closed since XML file import" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [03:01] everything is in it [03:03] Kryczek: well when I said the error wasn't "in" kwallet, it is a combinason in fact [03:03] there is no reason that the wallet is saved only at logout.... [03:03] maybe there is one, but I can't figure out what [03:05] ctcp ? [03:05] dcc please :) [03:05] oops :D [03:05] we should look if we can have a Kubuntu version of /etc/readahead/desktop [03:05] Riddell: what's this ? [03:06] Kryczek:http:// paste.tonio.homelinux.org [03:06] Tonio_: file to be cached i suppose [03:06] for faster access [03:06] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=254263 explains it well [03:07] Riddell: reading thanks [03:07] Tonio_: any good syntax hilighting template for irc logs? :) [03:07] okay it is the equivalent of microsoft bootvis :) [03:07] Kryczek: not needed don't mind :) [03:08] Riddell: interesting I didn't knew an equivalent on linux exist [03:08] Riddell: the problem with this is that it depends on each machine [03:09] Riddell: modules to load etc..... [03:09] Riddell: have fun on your trip , i'll try not to break all of main ( just kidding ) [03:10] Tonio_: most of the files are the same depending on the desktop you load [03:10] Riddell: yes, but it looks like faster on good machines, but slow on light ones....... [03:10] Riddell: could be dangerous in my opinion [03:10] Tonio_: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/38 === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-221-126-121.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] Kryczek: okay so both of you were wrong in fact :) [03:14] Kryczek: first, the patch doesn't resolv the issue this time (worked for the 3.5.4 issues but not this problem) [03:14] and secondly, it doesn't introduce any crash [03:15] the point is probably that kwallet should save new entries everytime something is written to the wallet in my opinion [03:15] that would resolve the issue [03:15] Riddell: I'll have a look at that readahead thing, but I'll test it on a 256mbits machine first [03:16] :) [03:16] I don't know how we'd do a kubuntu version, you can't do alternatives on conf files [03:17] hum, yes [03:17] well we can easily do that by breaking the debian policy hehe [03:17] joking of course [03:18] Riddell: it is possible to do alternatives on the initscript [03:18] and the initscript contains the path to the config file, so........ :) [03:18] maybe, sounds dangerous but [03:18] but works :) [03:20] does anyone happen to know if there is a way to save a (KDE) session other than selecting save session from the k menu? i'm trying to save a session with konq fullscreen [03:20] seaLne: will not work [03:20] seaLne: konqueror and kopete have issues in saving the window size for at least 2 years :) [03:21] it saved fine, with restore last session thingy [03:21] i just want to make it so it can't be mistakenly changed [03:21] seaLne: even the window size ? [03:21] yep, stayed fullscreen [03:21] hum interesting [03:22] my konqs stay the right size on my desktop aswell [03:22] seaLne: how do you save the session from the kmenu ? [03:22] "save session" [03:22] seaLne: I don't see this i nthe kmenu [03:22] Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/39 [03:23] Riddell: buildlog for guidance [03:23] you need to have changed in the session settings [03:23] seaLne: ah okay ;) [03:23] on login: from restore previous session to restore manual session [03:23] well I assume it is possible somehow with dcop.... [03:23] this is for connecting to a plasma display :) [03:23] seaLne: tried to browse with kdcop somehow ? [03:24] but then it would be saved as being running? [03:25] Riddell: I'm pretty sure the issue is due to your changes since I built it correctly yesterday afternoon [03:25] seaLne: probably yes [03:26] "dcop ksmserver default saveCurrentSession" but gives a complaint about "ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!" when i ssh in [03:26] is dcop linked to being logged in? === goldenear [n=goldenea@AToulouse-257-1-131-253.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] seaLne: use /bin/bash not /bin/sh [03:28] seaLne: yes, it is [03:28] Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/40 [03:28] Riddell: what's this ? libkonsolepart.so required to install python-kde3 ? [03:30] yes, it is now [03:30] not sure what would be causing that error [03:34] so I need to make python-kde3 depend on konsole === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:37] Riddell: probably yes [03:37] Riddell: want me to do it ? I have time for this :) [03:40] Riddell: I've done the package, so I can upload if you want/don't mind [03:41] Tonio_: I've just done it [03:42] Riddell: hehe okay [03:42] Riddell: I'm reading at your mail, concerning edgy-proposed patches [03:43] Riddell: how to check who confirmed it worked ? [03:43] Tonio_: they should say so on the bug report [03:43] okay [03:44] then you include their details in the -updates changelog [03:44] see the StableReleaseUpdates page before doing any such upload though [03:44] great it is clear now [03:44] Riddell: yeah I know I should..... I have rarelly been involved in working on updates for the stable release, that's my problem :) [03:45]