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idigtalHow do i get ubuntu and kubuntu install togther?12:13
lozwhat is your prime install12:13
lozare you inkubuntu12:13
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lozor ubuntu12:14
idigtalkubutu12:14
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lozwell ubuntu is just a desktop12:14
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lozso you open a console12:14
lozand type12:14
lozsudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop12:15
lozi think12:15
lozi did this on mine12:15
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lozand you can enjoy the lovely 3 d desktop12:15
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DekKeDanyone here uses Octave?12:16
lozi m on kubuntu+with ubuntu desktop12:16
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lozit works a treat12:16
idigtaldoes it matter if i install ubuntu first?12:16
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lozDekkeD sorry i dont12:17
lozi think you d be better of12:17
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Jucatoif you're on Ubuntu, you install kubuntu-desktop. If you're in Kubuntu, you install ubuntu-desktop12:17
lozubuntu is simalar to windows if your new to linux12:17
SillyZubuntu is much better than windows by a long shot12:17
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SillyZIm running a PIII-750, w/ 256mb ram, fresh installation of Kubuntu am looking to optimize the system for a little more speed, any suggestions?12:18
lozkde enviroment is a little bit boring, go for gnome on ubuntu, more fun, and enjoy axgl12:18
stankohi all12:19
lozSillyZ yes change PC12:19
SillyZloz, will on tuesday... new laptop on the way12:19
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lozSillyZ, wich release of kde have you got?12:20
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BluesKaj!libgcj.so.7012:20
SillyZ3.5.512:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libgcj.so.70 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:20
SillyZloz, default which comes with Kubuntu 6.1012:21
cntbannoying -- issue ftp://zaban-bechor.co.il/samba-shr2-win-multiple-login.JPG12:21
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lozSillyZ, surely you havent enough Ram if your on kubuntu s latest12:21
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SillyZloz, Oh i know 256 is nothing...12:22
lozi ve got  a centrino duo with 1 g of ram, and i recon that even with that it struggles12:22
lozespecialy with the 3 d desktop12:23
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TubaSoldierlfd12:23
SillyZloz, Ill be pushin a intel duo core, 1.8gz w/ 1g ram as soon as it arrives on tuesday12:23
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lozSillyZ, then wait till tuesday my friend, and go for the Edgy12:24
cntbdido12:24
inkwellreal responsive group in #ubuntu-xgl12:24
cntbbulgarian?12:24
SillyZId like to get as much speed out of this old laptop as I can, then its going to act as a secondary station , others in the house getting on the internet surfin web, educational tools for the kids, etc , possibly even a print server12:24
lozcntb GB12:24
SillyZoh belive u me, Ive already got my droooool bib on waiting for tuesday :D12:24
cntbannoying -- issue ftp://zaban-bechor.co.il/samba-shr2-win-multiple-login.JPG12:24
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SillyZ6.10 is edgy isnt it ?12:25
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lozwell ther is something called onesmalllinux.com i think12:25
intelikeywhat happens tuesday ?12:25
domSillyZ, yes12:25
SillyZnew lappie intelikey12:25
intelikeyk12:26
SillyZseems the unrar package is busted too btw12:26
lozi want to install this on my bosss old pc12:26
SillyZtried to install and says it will break other packages12:26
intelikeyi'd like a new laptop.   mine is a 48612:26
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intelikeyi might even give up to $11 or even $12 for one....12:27
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lozanybody know a good site for wireless12:27
angasule!subtitle12:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about subtitle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:27
TubaSoldierlol, here is something for you. My old desktop just ended up in the posession of my nephew. It has a 1gig processor. His dad said his old computer must be faster because his processor is a mega-something....12:28
lozbotsnack12:28
angasuleis there a subtitle editor that's any use? KSubtile supports only .srt12:28
intelikey!botsnack | loz12:28
ubotuloz: Yum!12:28
lozouch12:28
idigtalloz12:28
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angasuleTubaSoldier: introduce him to the cluebat12:28
idigtali have this problem12:28
TubaSoldierangasule, I'll have to do that.12:29
idigtali can't get my sound working on kubuntu12:29
idigtal0000:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 431012:29
TubaSoldierangasule, I have wanted to introduce him to that bat for years.12:29
idigtaland kmix say mixer cannot be found12:29
cntbthat one is of the modem12:29
intelikey!sound | idigtal12:29
ubotuidigtal: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:29
cntbthis may not be good12:29
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lozobotu wireless problems12:30
angasule!wireless > loz12:30
lozubotu wirelss problems12:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wirelss problems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:30
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lozubotu wireless problems12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireless problems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
Jucato!wireless12:31
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:31
intelikey!wifi | loz12:31
ubotuloz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:31
idigtalcan someone help me get through this sound problem12:31
lozubotu botsnak12:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsnak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:31
Jucato!botabuse12:32
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)12:32
lozok sorry i ll stop abusing him12:32
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Jucatoand btw, it's !botsnack12:33
Jucato:P12:33
intelikeyoh sorry, boot's ubotu12:33
lozdoes anybody know where the "pipe" key is on a qwerty keyboard?12:34
lozstupid question i know12:34
intelikeyshift \12:34
Jucatoabove the \12:34
Jucatoer.. waht intelikey said12:34
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Jucato(sheesh! "above the \"! what was I thinking!)12:35
intelikeylol Jucato12:35
lozbut i:12:35
lozerr12:35
ubuntuhi all12:35
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ChoogsterHi all, I was hoping that someone might be able to help me out with some really basic know how?12:36
intelikeyi have "really basic know how"  :)12:37
ChoogsterI am currently running a live version of 6.0612:37
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Jucatowhich know how?12:37
lozok, i ll rephrase, i got a laptop that i bought in spain, and its a qwerty keyboard, and i cant find the "pipe key, anybody?12:37
intelikeyJucato the really basic one12:37
Jucatoloz: do you see the pipe key? it's supposed to be on the same key as the backslash12:38
Choogsterand I am pretty new to linux, I would like to know if this is a 32 bit version or 64 bit. In windows I can just click on properties to find out what version of OS is running, how do I do that in linux?12:38
SeanTateris there a safe way to kill krfb_httpd?12:38
lozjucato, nope not there12:38
intelikeyloz oh  pipeA  non-existant on qwerty12:38
loz{ i get this12:38
SeanTateror is killall krfb_httpd the best way?12:38
lozno way12:39
lozwhat to do12:39
Jucatoweird12:39
lozi needed that key12:39
JucatoI thought it was a standard in qwerty keyboards...12:39
intelikeyloz map it to something.12:39
Choogsterloz, you made sure that your install is set up for qwerty keyboard and not mac?12:39
lozyep12:39
loz|||||||||||||||||||||||||||12:40
lozfound it12:40
Choogsterthat's pretty weird12:40
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intelikeythat's not pipeA12:40
lozits alt 112:40
intelikeythat's pipe12:40
lozloz is happy12:40
loz|||||||12:40
ChoogsterSo, how can I tell is I am running 32 bit or 64 bit?12:40
Choogsterif*12:40
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loznighty night ladies and gemmlemun12:41
lozgtg12:41
intelikeyChoogster command uname -a12:41
Choogsterit says ubuntu 2.6.15-23-386, 386, that's not 64 bit is it?12:42
intelikeynope12:43
Choogsterthanks by the way intelikey12:43
intelikeyyou're welcome in the path12:43
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ChoogsterYeah, I have a three cd set for ubuntu, but none of them are marked lol12:43
Choogsterthey are marked disk 1-3, but I have no idea what 2 oand 3 do, I figured just bundles12:44
ChoogsterSo, I will try ot boot from them12:44
Choogsterthanks alot guys12:44
intelikeynp12:44
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idigtalI need help on my multimedia12:54
idigtalis unclaimed12:54
idigtaland i can here any sound12:54
idigtalMultimedia audio controller12:54
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idigtalproduct: Rockwell International12:54
intelikey!sound | idigtal12:57
ubotuidigtal: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:57
intelikeyone more time......12:57
idigtal?12:57
idigtalwhat u mean !sound12:57
globeidigtal: look at the message from ubotu ....12:58
idigtalbut i don't quit understand what12:59
idigtalit have to relate to my problem12:59
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bubu1ukidigtal: what is ur problem?01:00
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idigtalunable to play sound and unable detect my sound card01:00
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idigtalMultimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 431001:01
intelikeyooops that wasn't the way to close a bx window....01:01
idigtaland kmix sayiung mixer cannot be found01:02
bubu1uk!sound01:02
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:02
bubu1ukfollow this links.01:02
bubu1ukit should give u idea what to do...01:02
intelikeyidigtal so what is a "Multimedia audio controller" ?    is that anything like a sound card ?01:02
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intelikeyi really don't know anything about a "Multimedia audio controller"01:03
idigtali read but i have no clue what is Debian01:03
bubu1ukubuntu/kubuntu is based on debian. it's linux distro01:03
intelikeyand you are unable or unwilling to go to google and search fro debian to find out what it is ?01:04
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intelikeyand unable or unwilling to read the page that has be shown you at least 5 times now ?01:05
idigtalhttp://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin >>> does it detect my sound card01:05
intelikeyand expect us to fix your box for you ?    some times you get what you pay for.01:06
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bretthow do you install stuff after downloading it?01:06
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bubu1ukwhat kinda stuff?01:06
intelikeybrett use the packagemanager.01:06
intelikey!repos01:06
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:06
bubu1uku got deb package?01:06
brettintelikey: how do i use that to download something off the internet01:07
intelikeybrett what ?01:07
brettbubu1uk: vmware server01:07
intelikeyuse the package manager.01:07
brettintelikey: i just downloaded vmware server and i want to install it01:07
bLaZeDis there a easy to use program that will check a file...and get its md5sum then ask for a user to input a md5sum...then it will compair the 2...and say if they match or not01:07
brettintelikey: the package manager could not find it01:07
intelikeydelete it and use the package manager.01:07
brettintelikey: in adept this program could not be found01:07
intelikeybrett that's why the link  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:08
JucatoVMWare Server isn't in the repos01:08
intelikeyJucato it's not ?01:08
intelikey just the client ?01:08
JucatoVMWare Player only01:08
brettintelikey: yup01:08
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bubu1ukbrett: do u have universe repos allowed?01:08
brettbubu1uk: yup01:09
Jucatobrett: you might need to install "build-essential" to install vmware-server successfully01:09
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brettJucato: ok..install from adept?01:09
intelikey!b-e01:09
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:09
intelikeyhmmm i guess the server is not in the restricted repos either ???01:10
Jucatointelikey: nope. nada :)01:10
brettJucato: i cant find build essentials in adept01:10
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Jucatobrett: build-essential not build essentials01:10
intelikeyvmware-player - Free virtual machine player from VMware   is why not the server ?01:10
brettJucato: cool01:11
brettJucato: installing it now01:11
Jucatointelikey: beats me01:11
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intelikeyok i'll make a mental note.    brett sorry for the mis-dirrect.01:12
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brettintelikey: np01:12
intelikeybrett it helps to be specific when asking for info.  so idiots like me don't do that in the future :)01:13
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globeare there term based mp3 players besides mpg123?01:15
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bubu1ukglobe: mp3blaster01:16
brettintelikey: ok thanks01:16
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bubu1ukglobe: for example.01:16
globebubu1uk: thx01:17
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intelikeyglobe vlc01:17
brettthe compiling page wasnt much help01:17
davide<- kompletter linux neuling01:17
davidekann mir wer sagen wie ich firefox installiere01:17
bubu1ukintelikey: is vlc working only on console? didn't know that01:17
davidewenn ich das tar.gz file auf den desktop runtergeladen hab?01:17
intelikeybrett after unpacking any tarball read the README and any other upper case file name in the dir it creates.01:18
bubu1uk!de01:18
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:18
intelikeybubu1uk it will yes.01:18
Jucatobrett: you don't need to compile. you just need the compiler01:18
Jucatobrett: the vmware installer will do it for you01:18
intelikeybubu1uk sox is good in the console.   sox provides the "play" and "rec" commands.01:18
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bubu1ukintelikey: :D no need for me. like mp3blaster (either i dont use it. cuz allways in GUI01:19
intelikeybut i think sox needs part of the mpg12301:19
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brettthere isn't a readme Jucato there is a directory called FILES in uppercase01:20
brettJucato: err wait not a directory a file named FILES01:20
Jucatobrett: that's for vmware-server?01:21
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JucatoDr_willis: might want to help him out then :P01:21
intelikeybrett see the doctor.01:21
JucatoI have it installed too, btw01:21
brettJucato: yes01:21
brettintelikey: the doctor? :-)01:21
Dr_willisI followed the guides/docs in the "ubuntu hacks' book...01:21
Jucatobrett: you're just supposed to run the install script01:21
idigtal!voice01:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:22
intelikeybrett Dr_willis01:22
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Jucatobrett: "sudo ./vmware-install.pl"01:22
brettJucato: ok how do i run it01:22
Dr_willisbasicially you install build-essential and some other dev packages.. ghet the vmwaer server file from the vmware guys and run its installer01:22
wimpies I might have found a bug in php 5.1 but before I can report it I need to upgrade to 5.2 ... Any packages ?01:22
JucatoDr_willis: are you on Edgy?01:22
Dr_willisYea - clean instll of edgy01:22
brettA previous installation of VMware software has been detected.01:22
brettit is talking about the client rather then the server i am trying to install01:23
JucatoDr_willis: have you tried going to a tty in VMWare lately?01:23
bretterr the player01:23
Jucatobrett: you have vmware-player installed?01:23
brettJucato: yes01:23
Jucatohm....01:23
brettJucato: all i need is the file it needs to open01:23
brettJucato: so i can run xp or 9801:23
idigtalhow to install audio driver01:23
Jucatothat I'm not familiar with... because I haven't installed vmware server after vmware player...01:24
brettJucato: have you installed the server before the player01:24
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Dr_willisJucato,  to a tty?01:24
Dr_willisiv never used vmware player.01:24
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JucatoDr_willis: you know, Ctrl+Alt+F1? I have FC3 and Kubuntu Edgy on vmware server. Neither can go to the virtual terminal...01:25
Dr_williscant say that ive ever tired to get to the console on a linux nstall of vmware :)01:26
intelikeyJucato i would think not.  if they did you would loose the base systems access the consoles....01:26
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Jucatointelikey: what do you mean? I've been able to do it before (Dapper)01:27
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intelikeyi wouldn't want a vm to take over Ctrl+Alt+F*   that should remain the domain of the base system.01:27
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JucatoDr_willis: you need to do Ctrl+Alt+Space, release Space without releasing Ctrl+Alt, then press F101:27
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Jucatointelikey: no, vmware doesn't take over it.01:27
intelikeygood....01:28
intelikey that's what i'm saying, it shouldn't.01:28
Jucatointelikey: you use a special combination to be able to use the guest OS's Ctrl+Alt+Functions01:28
bretthow do you use a make file?01:28
bipsterprobably not the first to ask the question - but can anyone help install edgy eft - hangs at screen 1 (language)01:28
Dr_willisbrett,  touch file01:28
intelikeymake01:29
brettDr_willis: touch the make file?01:29
intelikeymake01:29
Dr_willisbrett,  i got it backewrds.. iread 'make a file' :)01:29
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brettDr_willis: heh01:29
intelikeya makefile is used by the make command.01:29
brettintelikey: just make then the make file name?01:29
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brettintelikey: what if there are two make files01:30
intelikeybrett try just make01:30
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brettintelikey: type 'make' ? and nothing else? that didn't do anything01:30
milaksHi, can someone please tell me, what should I drag from ksysguards left part (localhost tree) to sysguard applet, to show HD activity? In subtree "Disk Throuput" there are subtrees 1:[0-1] [1-5] , 22:0 and 3:[1,2,5-9] .01:30
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bipsterprobably not the first to ask the question - but can anyone help install edgy eft - hangs at screen 1 (language)01:31
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milaksAnyone?01:32
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intelikeyif it was a kernel  i'd say   make menu_config       make configure   or  make xconfig        but being a tarball i've never seen  you might try   make help01:32
milaksHi, can someone please tell me, what should I drag from ksysguards left part (localhost tree) to sysguard applet, to show HD activity? In subtree "Disk Throuput" there are subtrees 1:[0-1] [1-5] , 22:0 and 3:[1,2,5-9] .01:33
intelikey!repete | milaks01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repete - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
bretti have already untarred it... should i have done that01:33
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morphishintelikey: !repeat ?01:34
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intelikeybrett did you do what Dr_willis said?    "<Dr_willis> I followed the guides/docs in the "ubuntu hacks' book..."   maybe google for an online   or see  <Jucato> brett: "sudo ./vmware-install.pl"01:35
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brettintelikey: when i try sudo ./vmware-install.pl it says 'A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.'01:37
brettintelikey: and then error abort01:37
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intelikeybrett uninstall vmware-player01:38
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intelikeyand try again01:38
brettintelikey: ok01:38
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idigtalcan soem one help me01:40
idigtalhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting01:40
brettintelikey: nope...still same erer01:40
brettintelikey: err error01:40
idigtalim on the sudo nano /etc/modules01:40
TheMoleDoes anyone else have problems hearing audio on webpages (usually flash vids etc.) through firefox on edgy?01:40
intelikeybrett hmmm you have anything vmware installed ?01:41
brettintelikey: nope01:41
brettintelikey: i removed everything vmware related01:41
intelikeybrett you can also look into the .pl script for help   if you know anything about perl scripts....01:41
brettintelikey: do i need to buy this ubuntu hacks book or is there somewhere i can read it online?01:42
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intelikey!flash9 | TheMole01:42
ubotuTheMole: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html01:42
intelikeybrett i really don't know.  that's why i sujested google01:42
HalphaZ2221hi01:43
Dr_willisremoveing stuff MAY not remove the config files.01:43
HalphaZwhat time is there?01:43
Dr_willisbut i dont know what the whole problem is :) ive had very few issues with vmware-server01:44
brettDr_willis: r u saying i need to remove the config files?01:44
intelikeyah Dr_willis true that.  i always use -P  but i bet adept doesnt01:44
Dr_willisbrett,  no idea what you are doing to be honest with ya. :)01:44
brettintelikey: ok how do i get rid of the config files?01:44
Dr_willisthers no vmware-server debs that i know of.. No idea on the player. i never use vmware player01:44
intelikeybrett try sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player01:45
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intelikeyDr_willis there is a player   and i didn't know there wasn't a server .deb01:46
intelikeydo now....01:46
Dr_willisintelikey,  theres NOT as far as i know.01:46
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Dr_willisunless it just came out recentlyl01:46
Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help?01:46
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Peps_I am running dapper01:47
brettintelikey: still doesnt work...same error01:47
intelikeybrett apt didn't error out did it ?01:47
TheMoleintelikey: That has installed the flashplayer 9, but still no sound is heard.. I've also tried the /etc/firefox/firefoxrc hack... but that didn't work either.01:47
brettintelikey: nope...it ran fine01:48
intelikeybrett grep "paste your error message" *.pl  see what it burps out for me.01:48
soulriderhi everyone01:49
brettintelikey: huh?01:49
Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help?01:49
intelikeyTheMole if noone answers you on the flash sound ff issue try in #ubuntu  ff is default in ubuntu01:50
TheMoleintelikey: Thanks.01:50
intelikeybrett show me the error again01:51
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brettA previous installation of VMware software has been detected.01:52
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intelikeybrett in the same window; grep -B2 -e "software has been detected" *.pl01:53
sirmisjeah .. wlan is working :D01:53
brettprint wrap('A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.' . "\n\n", 0);01:53
intelikeyshould 'hopefully' give three lines of code.01:53
Dr_willisive neer had a problem rerunning the vmware-server setup scripts.01:53
intelikeybrett nothing before that ?01:54
intelikeyDr_willis yeah i fishing now for what is triggering that.01:54
brettbrett@brett-desktop:~/vmware-server-distrib$ grep -B2 -e "software has been detected" *.pl01:55
brett  }01:55
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intelikeyok we want a little more context.01:55
intelikeybrett your nick registered ?01:55
brettintelikey: nope01:56
Dr_willisIve totally missed what the actual problem is... :)01:56
Dr_willisthe setup script is crashing?01:56
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intelikeyDr_willis <brett> A previous installation of VMware software has been detected. <-- and exits01:57
intelikeybrett pastebin the script ?     seeing that you can dcc it to me with registering your nick.01:58
intelikeys/can/can't/01:58
brettok01:58
brett!pastebin01:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:59
bretthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33576/01:59
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Dr_willisive never had it exit that way....  it  should ask to use the old settings/stuff  of course ive never installed the vmware-player packages02:00
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Jucatobrett: have you removed vmware-player already?02:01
sirmisis there flash plugin available to 64 bit kubuntu02:01
brettJucato: yup02:02
Schalkenif i were to symlink /root to ~/ and start an application as root, will some files in ~/ become owned by root?02:02
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Dr_willis~/  - is.... hmm... odd...02:02
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Jucatohm... just a hunch, try "sudo apt-get remove --purge vmware-player" or "sudo aptitude purge vmware-player", then try to install vmware server again02:03
Dr_williscd ~/02:03
Dr_willis  -> /home02:03
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Jucato~/ == /home/user/02:03
Jucatobest not to symlink anything from /root to ~/02:03
Dr_willisI cant imagine why you would want to.02:04
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intelikeywell the error is blasted out of one function    # Make sure we have an initial database suitable for this installer. The goal02:06
intelikey# is to encapsulates all the compatibilty issues in this (consequently ugly)02:06
intelikey# function02:06
bretti got to go02:06
brettthanks for help02:06
bretti will get it later02:06
intelikeybrett just when i got interested.02:06
intelikeybut go ahead.  i'll keep looking.02:06
Jucato:P02:06
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Dr_willisHeh - I found my old AMiga CD32! woots. :)02:07
Dr_willisanyone want it?02:07
Dr_willisI cant find the power supply for it. :(02:08
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intelikeybrett looks like   /etc/vmware-server-console02:08
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intelikeysee if that's a dir or a file or non-existant02:09
intelikeybrett ls -l /etc/vmware-server-console02:10
Dr_willisI dont have that file. :)02:10
Dr_willisjust for referance02:10
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lucahi veryone02:10
lucadoes someone know how to make a Pixart Imaging camera functioning?02:11
intelikeyDr_willis yes   the next step is cut from - on and add *02:11
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intelikeybrett looks like   /etc/vmware*       because it's set to a default and several veriants  any of which can hit a match for installed vmware02:12
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intelikeyi would be so bold as to sujest rm /etc/vmware* -r     and run the installer again.02:13
Jucatothat is bold02:13
intelikeybut that's what is causing the error.   the script don't lie.02:14
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intelikeyit has a config dir in etc that contains a file in the wrong format and it refuses to continue.02:15
intelikeysimple enough.02:15
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intelikeyi still don't like perl it looks like trying to read greek to me.02:16
intelikeyand yes i read a "very" little greek.02:16
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Schalkenwill root own some of my files if i symlink /root to ~/ ?02:17
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intelikeySchalken no.02:17
metresHi all , i'm trying to install flash on Edgy amd64, and I got this error... sudo: nspluginwrapper: command not found anyone have an idea ?02:17
intelikeySchalken you will have a shortcut to / in your home.02:17
lucahas anyone had any trouble making webcams work on their machines?02:18
intelikeySchalken wait02:18
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intelikeysymlink /root to ~/ ?02:18
lucametres; are you trying to install the firefox plugin? if so, the best you can do is putting th .so file in the plugin folder manually02:18
Schalkenintelikey: yes, so root uses all my configuration02:18
intelikeyyou mean ln -s /root ~/    that will error out.02:18
lucametres: the 9 beta I mean02:18
Schalkenintelikey: why?02:19
metresluca : I do it but it's 32 bit files... doesnt work with amd6402:19
intelikeyif you mean  ln -s ~/ /root   then unless you rm /root first that will error out.02:19
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intelikeybut you dont want to do that.  cause yes root will own things in your home.02:19
metresluca :that's why I need nspluginwrapper...02:19
Schalkenintelikey: wahst the difference between a hard and symbolic link?02:20
lucametres: no clue for me then, sorry man02:20
intelikeySchalken hard link is a second access point to an inode   a symbolic link is a redirect to another inode.02:20
metresluca : thanks anyway02:21
Jucatointelikey: try that again in plain English. :P02:21
intelikeySchalken if you hardlink an inode as long as one of the links exist the file exists     if you symlink an inode if you rm the real inode the link points to nothing....02:21
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intelikeyJucato any better ?02:22
Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help? I am running dapper02:22
Jucatointelikey: no. you still used "inode" :P02:22
lucaanybody using webcams here? :)02:23
intelikeyecho " this is a test " > file ; ln file file2 ;rm file ;cat file2      then try that with a symlink.   you can symlink anything.  but somethings can't be hardlinked.02:24
intelikeyJucato but i meant inodes  i didn't say file cause it could be directories02:24
Jucatointelikey: you could have said files/directories instead :P02:25
intelikeybut both are inodes02:25
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Jucatoin plain English. but I presume everyone understands what inodes are02:25
intelikeyif not there is google and wikipedia02:25
Jucato:)02:25
Jucatoisn't that what you're here for?02:25
intelikeynot to mention dictionary.com and friends02:26
Jucatoso that we don't have to Google or Wikipedia02:26
Jucato:P02:26
intelikeyyep it sure was.02:26
Jucatoheheh gone02:26
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BluesKajinodes...?02:27
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sirmisthis may be stupid question .. but where i can find "gadgets" to desktop ?02:32
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Jucato!superkaramba | sirmis02:33
ubotusirmis: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org02:33
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majorowli have a newly-installed edgy machine that has a 3com wifi card in it (orinoco-based).  it's odd, lspci and dmesg report it.  lsmod shows the orinoco driver loaded.  but I don't have an eth0.  i have a wlan0, but iwconfig against it claims no wireless extensions available.02:34
musya3danyone here use kopete?02:34
sirmisubotu: thanks02:34
ubotuYou're Welcome!02:34
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Jucatolol02:34
Jucato!botsnack02:35
ubotuYum!02:35
majorowlwhat's weird is that the installer saw the wifi card and appeared to configure it just fine.  (though I couldn't tell if it used it as I was installing from CD).02:35
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musya3danyone?02:37
campbch!java02:37
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:37
campbchi use gaim.02:37
JucatoI use kopete. but I'm no expert on it02:38
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musya3dok well how do you sign on again after you signed of because of reboot, i cannot figure out how to sign on, i know it sounds silly02:38
musya3dbut please help!02:38
BluesKajkonversation for irc , amsn for that IM stuff..which i seldom use02:39
Jucatomusya3d: there will be icons at the status bar at the bottom of kopete02:39
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Jucatomusya3d: icons for each account you set up. you can individually control them, or sign on altogether using the toolbar at the top02:39
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campbchhmm02:44
Jucato!botsnack02:44
ubotuYum!02:44
campbchIMHO ubotu should mention that the JRE install should have to be done through commandline apt-get, since choices need to be made02:44
campbch!botsmack02:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:44
Jucatowhat do you mean?02:45
campbch!bothug02:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bothug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:45
campbchthe java JRE poses agreemets you need to agree to, that you cant through the adept-manager... you're forced to exit and kill the process, then dpkg some configure thing to fix it02:45
campbchand then do it command-line style02:45
Jucatocampbch: the Java page explicitly instructs the user to use the command line, if you've noticed02:46
Jucatobut only on Kubuntu02:46
campbchyeah, well :p02:46
Jucatothe license agreement stuff works perfectly in Synaptic02:46
campbchwhich is better, synaptic or adept?02:46
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Jucatoapt-get :)02:47
campbchthat was subversive02:47
Jucatobut no, really... I prefer apt-get and aptitude nowadays02:47
campbchi see...02:47
Jucatobut personally: apt-get/aptitude > Synaptic > Adept02:47
campbchso, why is adept installed with kubuntu? synaptic works, doesn't it?02:48
JucatoAdept is a bit faster and better when it comes to searches and debtags (which I never use anyway)02:48
campbchi like synaptic's layout.02:48
Jucatobecause Adept is KDE and fits in KDE nicely. also, it's still under development, so nothing's permanent02:48
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campbchi see...02:50
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Jucatohi aseigo! still in india?02:50
wildchildwhy all the sudden kaffeine doesn't work. I click on avi file and kaffeine doesn't open that file :s02:50
aseigopopups, hidden console, etc02:50
aseigoJucato: yep... conference starts today02:50
JucatoI like some features in synaptic, though. specially those popups :P02:50
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Jucatogood luck aseigo!02:51
aseigough. popups are evil02:51
aseigoJucato: thx02:51
Jucatoaseigo: if they can be turned off, they're not that evil anymore02:51
wildchildok  I will ask anoter q. How can I check my edgy for bugs..02:51
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wildchildo_O02:52
wildchildanyone02:52
craftycornerI need some help02:52
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craftycornerwhat is a good program 4 the creation of DVD ISOs?02:53
Jucatoaseigo: but you're an expert (hehehe).  so many less experienced people have accidentally messed their because Adept didn't say it would be removing this or that package, except through a tiny status bar or through the Preview Changes02:53
craftycornerK3b needs a DVD ISO image02:54
aseigoJucato: and a popup helps there how? perhaps adept should have a nice preview changes and that should be mandatory and rolled into the "apply changes" workflow02:54
pierrethI need help with Kubuntu keyboard shortcut with kde02:55
craftycornerI don't know even what to search 4 in Symantic02:55
pierrethi made a shortcut to type my name with the system settings02:55
Jucatoaseigo: the popup in synaptic confirms the actions that will be taken, so you have a chance to review what will be installed and removed. In Adept, you have to manually click on Preview Changes. but yes, maybe a better workflow would be a better solution than having a popup02:55
pierrethbut I don't know how I can type a '{'02:56
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craftycornerI need an ISO creation program02:57
pierrethanyone knows how?02:57
craftycornerthere isn't a program?02:57
majorowlcraftycorner, mkisofs ?02:58
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craftycornerchecking02:59
craftycorneris that a program?03:00
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majorowlwell, sure03:01
majorowlman mkisofs03:01
wildchildhello there03:03
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fred_hi03:03
wildchildhas anyone have problem with starting kaffeine player03:03
wildchildit doesn't wanna start03:03
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daphneanyone here installed the "kscreensaver-xsavers" package?  I just installed it, and it seems to have installed properly...but the xscreensaver modules aren't showing up in the KDE desktop configuration panel03:06
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sirmisis there any test prog's to linux ...  like 3dmark in windows ?03:10
sirmisdaphne .. i'm 99 % sure that i'm wrong :) but you could try to restart X03:11
sirmisctrl-alt-backspace03:12
daphnesirmis: actually, after logging in and out didn't work, I restarted the whole machine just to be sure03:13
daphnethis is a new Edgy install...I think in my Dapper install they showed up immediately03:14
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campbchis there a reason applications will decide to just not run the first time you try to start them? sometimes, ill try to load, say, firefox, or adept-manager, and it'll just forget that i clicked :p03:15
campbchit shows a loading icon and everything, it just doesn't feel like running03:15
Jucatoanyone knows how to convert Documentation docbooks to HTML or PDF?03:18
majorowlcampbch, i've seen adept do that.  just a little while ago, actually.  i've never seen firefox do it.03:18
fiyawerxwhats an exhumer?03:18
daphnesomeone who gets buried bodies out of the ground?03:19
fiyawerxheh03:19
fiyawerxi meant in nethack terms :)03:19
fiyawerxtime for the &sters to rock a treasure zoo03:19
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fiyawerxhow long does invis last? permanent?03:20
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pierrethhello, anyone for a shorcut?03:23
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daphnesolution: install "xscreensaver"03:27
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cegottardihello03:43
cegottardiany 1 knows hot to install bittornado on kubuntu?03:43
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zanopholDoes anyone know how to tell which version of the forced.eth driver edgy uses by default?03:47
campbchhow to i get firefox to recognize the JRE?03:47
mike_Hi, can't boot WinXP after i installed KUbuntu. I resized the WinXP partion. I have mounted it and can read files. Grup menu.list looks fine03:49
Jucatocampbch: install sun-java5-plugin03:49
campbchit worked! /hug03:51
Jucato:p03:51
Dr_willismike_,  any sort of error or other clues to go by?03:51
mike_Dr_willis: No thing. When i press to boot XP in grupp at startup just the marker with black background and nothing happens03:52
Dr_willismarker?03:53
Dr_willisYou mean the xp little bar at the bottom of the screen?03:53
mike_Dr_willis: Yeah you know. Its the same when i start Ubuntu/Kubuntu its a "_" at the top of the screen but when i start Kubuntu after like 1/2 sec Kubuntu starts loading03:54
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Dr_willisa _ at the top of the screen... Hmmm...03:54
Dr_willisso XP dosent even seem to try to boot eh?03:55
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mike_Dr_willis: Nope :/  The bootloader is not pointing at the right path or something03:56
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mike_Dr_willis: But I don't even know where to start03:56
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Dr_williswhere is windows installed to?03:56
mike_sda1  WinXP    sda2 Kubuntu   sda3 Swap03:57
mike_I've mounted sda1 and can access all files and it does not look damaged03:57
Jucatomenu.lst might not be pointing to the correct partition03:58
Dr_willisyea.03:58
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mike_root            (hd0,0)03:59
Dr_willis /boot/grub/device.map may also be incorrect...03:59
Dr_willischeck that hd0 is sda in that file.03:59
Dr_willisYou do have an ide drive for the cdrom? or any ide drives at all?04:00
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mike_Kubuntu boots:       root            (hd0,1)04:00
mike_Winxp:   root            (hd0,0)04:00
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mike_Yes, 1 CDrom 1 DVD04:01
mike_device.map     (hd0)   /dev/sda04:01
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Dr_willisso that all seems right.04:02
cegottardii got these error wxPython is either not installed or has not been installed properly.04:03
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cegottardihow do i get it.. i have dapper 6.0604:03
cegottardiits not in adept04:04
cegottardiany 1 knows?04:04
Schalken0is installing the latest nvidia drivers as simple as downloading nvidia's .run file and running it as root? does it matter that i already have the drivers from ubuntu installed?04:04
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Dr_willisSchalken0,  using the .run stuff can be a hassle.04:05
Dr_willisI do belive theres a wiki page that details it.04:05
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Jucatomike_: use pastebin to show your menu.lst04:07
Jucato!pastebin | mike_04:07
ubotumike_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)04:07
Hobbsee!nvidia > Schalken004:07
Schalken0Dr_willis: is there an easier way to 9629 drivers?04:08
Schalken0Hobbsee: yes i would like to get the latest drivers however, the ones from the repos are 8xxx ones.04:08
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Hobbseeah04:09
mike_Jucato: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33595/04:09
Dr_willisSchalken0,  ive never worried about it.. so never tried..04:09
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BluesKajwhat's the command for updating and choosing a java update in the konsole ?04:09
Dr_willisI though there was an update to the nvidia drivers a few weeks ago.04:09
Schalken0well if the .run file doesnt work i can always reinstall the ones from the repo right?04:10
BluesKaj!java04:10
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository04:10
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bulwynkl!LVM04:10
eilker!postfix04:10
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO04:10
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto04:10
Jucatomike_: hm.. everything looks fine.. :(04:11
mike_Jucato: Yes :/04:11
Hobbseemike_: what's the problem?04:11
mike_Hobbsee:  Hi, can't boot WinXP after i installed KUbuntu. I resized the WinXP partion. I have mounted it and can read files. WinXP is in Grub menu.lst and it looks right. Any ideas?04:12
mike_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33595/   My menu.lst04:12
Hobbseemike_: want to pastebin sudo fdisk -l please?04:13
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Schalken0mike_: does it actually appear in the grub menu?04:13
Schalken0(during boot)04:13
eilker!imap04:14
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:14
mike_Hobbsee: I get no output from that command  "fdisk -l"04:14
Hobbseemike_: preface it with sudo04:14
mike_Hobbsee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33597/04:15
Hobbseemike_: you resized the first disk, presumably04:16
mike_Hobbsee: Yes from 320 Win Partion to 30004:17
Hobbseemike_: presumably you cant boot windows in recovery mode?  (hit f8)04:17
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mike_Hobbsee: Poweroff > Startbutten > VGA output > BIOS > Grub > i chose WinXP > a black screen with a marter blinking at the top04:19
Hobbseedarn it04:19
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mike_Hobbsee: Aaa damn :/  i have mounted it in /mnt/windows and can acces it and read files04:20
Hobbseemike_: yes, so the filesystem seems in tact, at least in part04:20
Hobbseei cant see any problem with grub there04:21
mike_Hobbsee: I guess resize did not work :/04:22
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mike_Hobbsee: You think i could repair the windows install witha a WinXP CD?04:23
BluesKaj! Java Update04:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Java Update - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:24
Hobbseemike_: i'd try04:24
Hobbseemike_: i'd guess so too04:24
mike_Hobbsee: What will happen to Kubuntu and grub? If i chose to repair it with WinXP CD? Do you know?04:25
Hobbseemike_: then you follow !grub04:25
Hobbseekubuntu will stay, as long as you hit "dont format the entire drive"04:25
Hobbseegrub will be overwritten, but there's a fairly simple howto on how to fix that04:25
bimberimike_: if you can mount the windows partition at the moment it'd be worth grabbing anything important off it first04:25
mike_bimberi: Yepp, I've done that, thanks.04:26
mike_!grub04:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:26
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bimberimike_: kk, np :)04:27
Hobbseemike_: then again, if you're going to do that, then why not get the windows to be installed on 1 or 2 hard disks, and kubuntu on the other04:28
mike_Hobbsee: I have 3 HD, 2 are full with stuff 1 I wanna dual boot. Never had problems before :/04:29
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Hobbseeahhh04:30
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mike_Hobbsee: I gotta use WinXP this computer. On laptop and server i only use linux04:31
Hobbseeah04:31
fuzzyHow do I install flash player?04:31
Dr_willis!flash04:31
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:31
mike_Hobbsee: Thanks for taking tthe time :)04:31
unix_infidelmike_: Depending on your computing needs in WinXp and your hardware you can install vmware on the linux host and run windows as a guest.04:31
unix_infidelI know a lot of smart people who have nicely speced laptops that run Windows XP under Ubuntu04:31
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e1merhello all, im using a kubuntu on dell latitude d520, but im having trouble using my headset/audio jack..i cant hear something,04:32
Dr_williswonder how the windows xp activation stuff - handles vmware...04:32
mike_unix_infidel: Yes, i use vmware all the time, love it. But i still need WinXP at one computer :/04:32
Hobbseemike_: not a problem04:32
e1mer!sounds04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
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Hobbseee1mer: you cant hear anything from your headphones?04:32
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Hobbseee1mer: run kmix, and turn pcm up full04:32
unix_infidelmike_: maybe i'm not adequately understanding your computing needs :)04:33
e1merHobbsee:ill try, w804:33
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mike_unix_infidel: Np, you gave me a tip and thanks =)04:33
e1merHobbsee: it is..they're both full04:33
e1mer+ the master04:33
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e1merHobbsee: btw, it has a built in speaker..and its working well..i can hear the sounds04:34
Hobbseee104:34
fuzzyhow to install a tar.gz file?04:34
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Hobbseee1mer: but not the headphones?  hmmm04:34
Hobbsee!compile > fuzzy04:34
e1merHobbsee: the problem is when i put on my headset to the audio jack..i can still hear from the built in.but not on my headset04:34
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Hobbseee1mer:  right.  can i ask 2 really stupid questions?04:35
e1merHobbsee: ?04:35
Dr_willisWell you just asked one.... :)04:35
Hobbseee1mer: 1)  is the headset plugged fully in?  2) have you plugged it into the mic socket by accident?04:35
Dr_willisheh heh..04:35
mike_Thanks all, wich me good luck with repairing WinXP now ;p04:35
sirmisDr_willis: heh04:35
Hobbseegood luck mike_!04:35
e1merHobbsee: yup..i even ask my colleague to plug it in for me :))04:36
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Dr_willissome sound cards have ports that are 'flexiable' a headset out. may be (in software) switchable to say Mic in...04:36
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Hobbseee1mer: try plugging it into the other socket, and just double check?04:36
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e1merHobbsee: tried them both :(04:37
Hobbseeah04:37
Hobbseethen i'm out of ideas04:37
sirmiskde4 - here i come :P04:37
sirmishahaha .. it's 5.37 am in finland ..04:38
sirmisx)04:38
coreymonkde 4?!04:38
coreymonwhen?!04:38
sirmisi'm building latest "snapshot" ..04:39
coreymonwher?!04:39
coreymonhow?!04:39
coreymondoes it work?04:39
sirmislet's see :)04:39
Jucatofor developers04:39
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sirmisit compiled allmoust painlesly04:40
sirmisdone ..04:40
sirmisbrb04:41
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Dr_willis:)04:42
xsachahow can i make the screen switch to tty1 through ssh04:42
Dr_willisxsacha,  Hmm.. thats somthing i can say - ive never seen done.04:42
Dr_willis:)04:42
xsacha:(04:43
Dr_willistheres ways to run stuff on other ttys but never seen software to change to them04:43
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Dr_willisTo the Google!04:43
Dr_willisHmmm.. heres a tty/console program for DOS that acts like linux's console.. its classified as 'freeware, but has a $19.95 pricetag....04:44
Dr_willisI am once again reminded of WHY I LOVE LINUX.04:45
Dr_willisto the next google hit!04:45
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xsacha$20, what the hell04:45
Dr_willisYea.. gotta love Stupid-trivial-ware04:46
Dr_willislooking at the      http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html#toc7   guide now. :)04:46
Dr_willisBINGO!04:47
Dr_willisOne can change VT under program control using the chvt command.04:47
xsachaahhhh thanks04:47
xsachalol04:47
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Dr_willisMemo to self.. dont hit Ctrl-C in the console you run "startx' in04:49
Dr_willis:)04:49
xsachalol04:50
Jucatolol04:50
Dr_willisbut i did learn about chvt04:50
Dr_willis:)04:50
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Dr_willisi needed to test my '.kde/Autostart' thing.. the script i made dident work.. it got launched in Kate.04:51
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Dr_willisshould i make a symlink to the binary i want to run instead?04:51
Dr_willisCheckGmail -> /usr/bin/checkgmail04:51
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rererecan someone explain me the ! command in the chat how dose it work?04:54
xsachaDr_willis: is it executable?04:54
xsachawhen i had an autostart script not executable, it ran in kate04:54
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Dr_willisI chmod +x'd it04:54
Dr_willisand even ./whatever it befor i had my 'kde restart'  just now.04:55
Dr_willisheh04:55
Dr_willisit dosent begin with #!/bin/sh however..  just a 1 line script04:55
Dr_willisjust wanting to run CheckGmail. which is a Gnome app it seems.04:55
xsachaoh a symlink should do04:56
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Hobbsee!info kcheckgmail edgy04:56
ubotukcheckgmail: KDE systray application to check GMail accounts. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.5-1.1 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 580 kB04:56
HobbseeDr_willis: ^04:56
usuarioHi everyone04:56
Dr_willisCool. :)04:57
Dr_willisi can check it twice!04:57
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usuarioIm using kubuntu in my school but I dont know how to use it   :s04:57
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Dr_willisaparently ya know a little bit.. you got here.04:57
Davekjajaja thats right04:57
Davekwell I use windows xp and sometimes I use mirc04:58
Davekthats why I kinda knew how to get here04:58
Davek:P04:58
unix_infidelanyone here using a canon sd550 and found it compatible with linux?04:58
DavekHOLA A TODOOOSS !04:59
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rererecan someone explain me the ! command in the chat how dose it work?04:59
Davek!list04:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots04:59
macconlinehi.... how do backup my kubuntu??04:59
rererethanks05:00
DavekWhat is Kubuntu?05:00
fannagogann1macconline, what do you want to backup, your user account?05:00
fannagogann1Kubuntu is an OS05:00
macconlinefannagogann1: no, all system05:00
keyothere is a white rectangle on the desktop, it won't go away after restarting, its some sort of bug05:00
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keyocould posibly be beryls fault05:01
DavekAlguien de Tijuana ????05:01
keyoguess i should upgrade to edgy anywya05:01
Jucato!kubuntu05:01
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE05:01
coreymon!kde05:02
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE05:02
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keyo!windows05:02
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:02
Parkotron!env05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about env - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
Parkotron!pam05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:02
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Parkotron!pam_env05:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pam_env - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
Dr_williscanon sort of has a bad  rep with linux not being supported. :( sadly05:03
keyowyf is pam05:03
Jucato!botabuse05:03
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)05:03
keyoyea i have a cannon printer, prints text but not photos05:03
ParkotronJucato: Sorry.05:03
fannagogann1keyo, have you set it up using cups and the included printer drivers?05:03
keyoyes05:04
Dr_willisI got a nice canon printer.. but its on the wifes machine. for her Digital Camera ussage. actually she just plugs the camera into the printer.. no pc needed.05:04
fuzzy!divx05:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:04
keyowell it does print photos but just really badly05:04
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keyo!homosexuals05:04
drizI guys I am tryi0ng to update my computer to the latest Kubuntu but I have this error that says the following packages have been kept back..,,,05:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about homosexuals - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:04
robotgeekkeyo: can you please keep it ontopic05:06
keyook :D05:06
robotgeekdriz: from dapper to edgy?05:06
drizrobotgeek yeah05:07
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robotgeekdriz: did you install the kubuntu-desktop paackage before upgrading?05:07
drizummmm no05:08
drizhow??? :-)05:08
robotgeekdriz: hmm, that might be an issue05:08
drizohh05:08
robotgeekdriz: however, you might want to try sudo apt-get -f install kubuntu-desktop05:09
keyoIs there a way kubuntu could stabaly write to ntfs05:09
drizok then05:09
robotgeekkeyo: stably is relative05:09
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drizrobotgeek: I apparently do have the latest05:10
drizkubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.  says tyhe terminal05:10
keyowell a few strange things have been bugging me so i am going to put edgy on, just need to backup all the old stuff05:10
keyospose i'l just burn cds05:10
robotgeekkeyo: backup before upgrading is always a wise policy :)05:11
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keyoit can write to fat32 can't it05:11
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robotgeekkeyo: i tried it the other day, windows was not letting me delete a folder. however, i was able to delete it under linux :)05:11
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unix_infidelrobotgeek: what kind of folder was this?05:15
robotgeekunix_infidel: the past users folder. no use to me05:16
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unix_infidelrobotgeek: that's likely because it has an active socket in windows.05:16
unix_infidelyou can delete it from cmd not explorer, where as in linux, things are treated a bit nicely....05:17
robotgeekunix_infidel: no, the user did not have an account on that machine. i had no read access, even (as admin)05:17
unix_infidelthen how did he have a user folder on tehre?05:17
robotgeekunix_infidel: at work, so i just used the installation of the guy who worked there before me05:18
robotgeekhis folder was about 1.25 GB large, so i just backed it up and deleted that thing05:18
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robotgeekso as far as i am concerned, ntfs-3g works very well :)05:21
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unix_infidelrobotgeek: heh, be sure to come back and whine about how you lost sensitive data using ntfs-3g too.  Not that it's GOING to happen.  Just to be fair and balanced :P05:22
robotgeekunix_infidel: all that data is the the ext3 partition anyways, and ext3fsd works well :)05:23
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dennis_so anyone familiar with using a usb pendrive to boot linux from. I'd like to have a traveling system on my usb key05:24
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robotgeekdennis_: difficult, but possible. cause different hardware == different kernel modules05:24
DaSkreech!amarok05:24
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org05:24
robotgeekdennis_: you would be better off with livecd persistence, i think05:24
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dennis_I'm not saying a kubuntu usb system, I'm open to other ideas like DSL or puppylinux05:25
unix_infidelrobotgeek: you tried explore2fs?05:25
robotgeekunix_infidel: i think some time ago, not recently05:25
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unix_infidelany problems with it?05:26
dennis_just can't seem to figure this out for myself as easily as I thought it would be05:26
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robotgeekunix_infidel: the time when i used it, it did not seem to be integrated with explorer. i am not sure if things have changed now05:26
LeeJunFandennis_: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7418276314.html05:26
LeeJunFandennis_: basically it should be the same as that, although their requirement of 10GB seems outragous.05:27
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robotgeekklipper is so awesome :)05:28
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+V 4 life!05:28
dennis_well I take a read , see if I can learn something. damn samll is a live cd of ony 90MB , hopefully I figure it out05:28
Schalkenis upgrading from one ubuntu version to another as simple as adding the new repos to your apt sources and letting your package manager upgrade?05:28
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robotgeekSchalken: once you have installed the kubuntu-desktop package, yes05:29
DaSkreech!upgrade > Schalken05:29
dennis_so I'm thinking of a dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy, I'm still using ndiswrapper for my wlan card, are there any strange issues I should be aware of before I attempt the upgrade05:30
robotgeeki love the klipper actions, doublelick on link :)05:30
unix_infideldennis_: many people have not reported a "flawless upgrade" from dapper to edgy.05:30
unix_infidelusing dist-upgrade that is.05:30
dennis_yeah that's what I've been reading05:30
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LeeJunFandennis_: yeah, if you use dist-upgrade be prepared for at least a repetition of dist-upgrade, install -f , dist-upgrade, install -f , etc...05:31
dennis_is the preffered method to change the sources.list all dapper to edgy ?05:32
LeeJunFanuntil it says there's nothing left. There may be a few packages held back which you will have to install manually.05:32
LeeJunFan!upgrade05:32
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)05:32
unix_infideldennis_: that's what you will be doing to upgrade from dapper to edgy...in order to dist-upgrade.05:32
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unix_infidelerf?05:33
dennis_well, maybe I'll just do a fresh install.05:33
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dennis_I really hate to have to use edgy just to get firefox2, when dapper is working perfectly for me05:34
LeeJunFanI'm running feisty right now, only issue I have is a dep problem with kmymoney.05:34
LeeJunFanBut then the BIG changes haven't started rolling in yet. :)05:35
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robotgeeki suppose firefox 2 wont be backported05:36
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dennis_yeah the forums have a thread about why firefox will not be backported05:36
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robotgeekit makes sense, i am in no hurry.05:37
unix_infidelHmm, did i miss something about firefox?05:37
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LeeJunFanI've got 2 partitions, one for devel current, and one for stable/productivity. So if something is really borked I can boot edgy, but to keep up and help with bug squashing I try to run the latest devel.05:39
SchalkenIs there an option in Adept to treat recommended packages as dependencies?05:40
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redmer?05:41
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robotgeekdamn it, kubuntu has stopped displaying/automounting my usb drives05:46
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jagerhow do i get flash9 from seveas?05:50
bimberi!flash905:51
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html05:51
jageri have seveas in sources.list but apt-cache show tells me i'll still get flsah705:51
dennis_ah, here's another one I'm not 100% sure on how to approach, I basically stopped using windows at home, I setup my main home server as a dual boot , so If I ever needed to use windows it's there, well now I want it gone can I just simply delete the partition, modify grub and free up another 40 Gb of space ???05:51
jagerpretty much dennis_05:52
jagerjust like that05:52
dennis_sweet05:52
bimberijager: what's the line in your sources.list?05:52
dennis_I thought that was what I need to do , but never was 100% sure of myslf05:52
jagerdeb http://seveas.imbrandon.com edgy-seveas custom extras seveas-meta05:53
jagerdeb-src http://seveas.imbrandon.com edgy-seveas custom extras seveas-meta05:53
jagerwent to his webpage and it says flash9 is in custom05:53
jagerapt-cache show tells me that i'll get Filename: pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-nonfree_7.0.68~ubuntu3_i386.deb05:54
jagerfrom multiverse i assume05:54
robotgeekheh, i cant even upgrade to edgy, i have no disk space left.05:54
jagerdist-upgrade was rough :(05:54
jagerstill haven't gotten everything straight, but i think flash9 is among the last of it05:54
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bimberijager: add ' backports' to those lines05:55
unix_infidelThe server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.05:56
unix_infidel^^^^^05:56
unix_infidelslickdeals.net05:56
unix_infidelLOL05:56
bimberiha, slick? pfft05:56
bimberijager: it's a recent change (to backports)05:57
jageroic05:57
jageraptgetting now05:57
jagerthat looks to have done it05:57
bimberimust be taking a while for the documentation to catch up :)05:57
jagerthanks05:57
jagerthat'l happen :)05:57
bimberinp :)05:57
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LeeJunFanhrm, looks like america's army game gave up on a linux client eh. crap.06:00
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robotgeekTonio_: do you know if automounting usb disks is broken in kde 3.5.5 ?06:02
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RawSewagedoes anyone know how to fix that thing where people make your IRC client disconnect06:02
Tonio_robotgeek: it works but with issues06:03
Tonio_robotgeek: especially on umouting06:03
Tonio_but mounting generally works06:03
robotgeekTonio_: it used to automount on dapper , but after i upgraded to kde 3.5.5, it stopped06:03
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HawkwindRawSewage: irc.freenode.net on port 8001 and also update your routers firmware06:04
RawSewageHawkwind, ty06:04
Tonio_robotgeek: I never saw that issue, neither on edgy + 3.5.5, nore in feisty.... sorry06:04
robotgeekTonio_: should i report bug/add ay info06:04
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Tonio_robotgeek: hum, create a new user and try with this one, can be a problem with your profile also06:05
robotgeektrue, that last kde issue i had was that too06:05
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LeeJunFanyeah, oddly often on the desktop icon I can't safely remove, but if I go to media:/ it shows the option to safely remove.06:09
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robotgeekTonio_: interesting, the daemon pops up, but does nothing06:10
Tonio_hum strange........06:11
robotgeekTonio_: thanks for the tip, i guess i will edit/delete .kde06:11
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e1meris there a tool to split files?06:12
LeeJunFansplit06:13
robotgeekoddly, it also shows up in disks and file systems06:13
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Tonio_robotgeek: okay I hope it'll work :)=06:14
Tonio_and cross your fingers for me, maybe I'll have kaffeine fixed in konqueror in a few minutes06:14
robotgeekTonio_: will do. appreciate the help06:14
Tonio_robotgeek: :)06:15
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pyongwhere can i download driver for my mp4 player06:20
robotgeekpyong: mp3 player?06:20
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pyongmp4 player06:22
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robotgeekpyong: not sure, though its just a flash disk, right?06:23
pyongyup, but ican play media it self06:24
robotgeekpyong: i dont follow06:24
Jucatoafaik, Linux usually detects such as USB mass removable media06:24
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pyongsome sort of ipod clones maybe06:24
robotgeekJucato: heh, currently kde is misbehaving right now with me. not automounting06:25
Jucatoaw...06:25
JucatoUSB drive? my USB Card Reader is working fine though...06:25
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piphello06:26
nanomikehi06:27
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intelikeywhat package provides configuring the kde desktop ?06:30
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intelikeyright click gives me an empty window06:30
intelikeywell right click > configure   gives empty window06:31
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intelikeyis that part of kde-core maybe ?06:32
Jucatoshould be in kcontrol06:32
LeeJunFanintelikey: that's fubar. What if you run sudo apt-get install -f06:32
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Jucatokdebase more likely intelikey06:33
LeeJunFanintelikey: and/or install kubuntu-desktop to make sure no missing deps?06:33
intelikeyLeeJunFan 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.06:33
pipnacer, Hi06:33
Jucatono need to install/reinstall kubuntu-desktop, as kdebase handles kcontrol already06:33
pipI am going to install kubuntu06:33
LeeJunFanintelikey: can you run displayconfig from commandline?06:34
intelikeyi don't at all want the meta package kubuntu-desktop too much ubuntu things that are not kde that i dont want.06:34
LeeJunFanintelikey: that's provided by kde-guidance06:34
JucatoLeeJunFan: that's different06:34
Jucatoright-click -> Configure Desktop doesn't use displayconfig06:34
LeeJunFandoh, that's right.06:35
intelikeybash: displayconfig: command not found06:35
Jucatoit uses the plain kcontrol modules for Background, Behavior, Multiple Desktops, and Screen Saver06:35
Jucatotold ya :P06:35
intelikeykcontrol may be missing06:36
Jucatointelikey: it's a long shot, you can try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol"06:36
intelikeykcontrol is missing.  kcontroledit is the only thing that will tab complete06:36
Jucatoaah that explains it06:37
Jucatoyay! digikam has a PDF version of the manual...06:37
intelikeyyep kcontrol is the package.... i noticed that kde-core is not installed either....06:37
Jucatointelikey: there's no need to install kde-core if you don't want to. it's just a metapackage that installs kdebase, kdelibs, and arts (metapackages, too)06:38
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Jucatointelikey: until I can read docbooks on my phone (or easily get HTML versions), I have to stick to PDF's06:39
intelikeyno not as bad as windows... but suffice it to say i don't like it.06:39
Jucatois there any other better portable document format? (ODF doesn't count :P)06:39
Jucatobah.. -offtopic, sorry06:40
intelikeytext06:40
Jucatosheesh06:40
intelikeyASCII06:40
e1merLeeJunFan: tnx, and how will i combine them?06:40
Jucatonevermind, don't try to answer if you can't be reasonable :P06:40
RoC_MMJucato, ODF.06:41
RoC_MMJucato, I've also noticed RTF is nice.06:41
intelikeyi was being reasonable.  anything digital can read ASCII, the fact that it doesn't have eyecandy means nothing when what you want is information.06:41
JucatoRoC_MM: any ODF reader available on symbian phones?06:41
RoC_MMJucato, maybe.06:41
Jucatointelikey: I'm talking about documents that may have images.06:41
RoC_MMDo your own searches.06:42
intelikeysee there you go changing the specs....06:42
Jucatointelikey:  <Jucato> yay! digikam has a PDF version of the manual... <--- the one that started the whole conversation06:42
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JucatoRoC_MM: I wasn't really "searching". it was more of a "challenge" to intelikey06:43
intelikey".. PDF version of the manual..." does NOT in and of it's self include images06:43
thomashey does windows need MS DOS to function?06:43
Jucatointelikey: <Jucato> intelikey: I'm talking about documents that *may* have images.06:43
Jucatothomas: not since Windows 95, iirc06:44
thomascan you for example delete cmd.exe and it will still work06:44
intelikey98se06:44
thomasi see cool06:44
thomasso u can delete it u dont even need it06:44
intelikeyerrr no me might also have had ms-dos06:45
intelikeybut xp doesn't use ms-dos06:45
thomasso when u boot up your computer the bios boots the OS-windows06:45
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RoC_MMKinda.06:46
intelikeythomas no the bios loads the windows boot loader that loads the windows kernel06:46
thomasdos isn't involved in any way, and windows can really on itself wihtout dos06:46
thomasi see06:46
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thomassort of like grub06:47
robotgeekntldr, you can even install grub on windows06:47
thomasreally col06:47
thomasso just to make it perfectly clear, DOS isn't used in win XP at all, it doesn't depend on it in any way06:48
thomasso i could delete cmd.exe it would be fine06:48
nanomikeMSdos and cmd.exe is not the same06:48
nanomikecmd.exe is command prompt06:49
intelikeyprevious versions of windows 9x and maybe ME not sure about it.   bios booted M$-dos which loaded the windows kernel    all NT versions (xp included) use a different aproach.  but same basic end result.  namely intelikey gets p**** off...06:49
intelikeydon't know what the basic end result is when you boot M$ but that's where it ends here.06:50
Jucatointelikey: where you able to solve the kcontrol problem?06:51
intelikeyJucato as simple as installing kcontrol.    but i didn't....  i can tho if you want me to :)06:51
Jucatolol no. I was just wondering :)06:52
Jucatonever want you to do something you don't like :P06:52
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intelikeyyeah i ask what package because i wanted to know why i got a blank configure window... now i know    problem solved.06:52
Jucatooh ok :)06:53
intelikeywow !    Jucato is studying 'now'   that's really philosophical..........06:54
Jucatolol06:54
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intelikeypossably even exostential    idk06:54
intelikeyiisc ^06:55
Jucatoexistential even06:55
intelikeyyeah i have a lot of trubble with vowels06:55
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dxdemetriouI have problem with krdc. the full screen some times work and others not. can I fix it?06:56
intelikeyreally all my misspelling is either a vowel or some times a consenant....06:56
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intelikeydxdemetriou if you try hard enough and long enough  im sure you can.06:57
dxdemetriouintelikey, I try for days without to can find anything06:58
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intelikeyyou checked the logs i'm sure.   and searched google for the same error messages.   ran it in konsole so you could trap error messages... used strace and ltrace to find what was failing   and read the docs in the source code   right ?06:59
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intelikeyseeing that you have not done any of that.  maybe that list would sufice as an outline of things to try...07:01
robotgeekintelikey: hmm, extensive list.07:01
intelikeywho knows even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then....  :)07:01
intelikeywell i'm out again.  gooday gents.07:02
robotgeeklater intelikey07:02
d03boyalright people. i seriously need some help with this BCM43xx wireless driver07:04
robotgeekhmm, d03boy which one do you have bcm4306?07:04
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d03boy430907:05
robotgeekd03boy: what have you tried till now?07:05
d03boy0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4309 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)07:05
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d03boyi found a .deb to install teh firmware(?) and driver but it gaveme some sort of an error in my log files07:06
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fulat2kwhich package should i install to get kaffeine to play xvid movies?  i've installed mplayer and xine but it still doesn't play.  oh, vlc is installed as well if that helps07:06
robotgeekd03boy: the driver is already installed, but you need to get firmware07:06
robotgeekfulat2k: kaffeine-xine07:06
d03boyrobot, alright... can you help me out there? :)07:07
robotgeekd03boy: sure, http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/07:08
fulat2krobotgeek: it's already installed...07:08
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robotgeekfulat2k: hmm, xvid should play even without all that,, afaik07:09
robotgeekfulat2k: maybe file is corrupted?07:09
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robotgeekd03boy: all set?07:17
d03boyok i installed that firmware07:18
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robotgeekd03boy: it should pick up the wireless card driver now07:19
d03boyok, what do I need to do07:20
d03boyto see if it picks it up07:20
robotgeekd03boy: try "sudo rmmod bcm43xx", "sudo modprobe bcm43xx"07:20
nanomikeFound: www.google.com/linux07:20
nanomikeCool07:20
d03boyok it seemed to probe it fine07:22
d03boywireless assistant doesnt pick anything up though07:22
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robotgeekd03boy: the kde one is horrible and an abomination :)07:23
d03boyyayyy07:23
robotgeekd03boy: however, there is knetworkmanager which works great for me (YMMV)07:23
d03boycan I manually set it up?07:24
d03boytemporarily07:24
robotgeekd03boy: moment07:24
robotgeekd03boy: you might want to look at the wireless wiki page for broadcom, theere are scripts there which might hhelp you07:25
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robotgeek!wifi > d03boy07:25
d03boyk07:25
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fulat2krobotgeek: the file plays fine using vlc though07:44
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robotgeekfulat2k: oh okay, that is useful information07:49
robotgeekfulat2k: what does kaffeine say when you try to play it?07:49
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bLaZeDhello all im trying to install these packages and im getting this can anyone help me out? http://pastebin.ulteo.us/25107:52
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robotgeekbLaZeD: edgy?07:57
fulat2krobotgeek: it doesn't output anything.  it just reads the file but w/o any output07:57
bLaZeDdapper07:57
sevenkubuntu dvd ripper        dvd2Xvid ?07:57
robotgeekbLaZeD: do you have any backports etc enabled?07:58
bLaZeDno backports07:58
fulat2krobotgeek: it used to work in ubuntu 6.06.  but i can't remember what i did :P07:58
bLaZeDrobotgeek, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/25207:59
robotgeekbLaZeD: this page lists http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libfaac-dev libmp4v2-dev as the dep07:59
bLaZeDi installed that08:00
bLaZeDbut i still get this :08:00
bLaZeDThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:00
bLaZeD  libfaac-dev: Depends: libmp4-dev but it is not installable08:00
robotgeekbLaZeD: it seems to be installing correctly for me, maybe you should apt-get update08:00
bLaZeDrobotgeek, libmp4v2-dev installed fine08:01
robotgeekbLaZeD: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/25308:01
robotgeek!restrictedformats > fulat2k08:01
robotgeekfulat2k: maybe that page will help08:01
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fulat2krobotgeek: ahh... there it is ;) thx dude08:01
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bLaZeDrobotgeek, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/25408:02
robotgeekbLaZeD: i think the problem might be with libfaac-dev being outdated on your mirror, you can install libfaac-dev manually maybe?08:03
bLaZeDrobotgeek, as in compile from source?08:04
bLaZeDrobotgeek, what mirror are you using?08:04
robotgeekbLaZeD: nope, from http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libdevel/libfaac-dev08:04
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bLaZeDrobotgeek, http://pastebin.ulteo.us/255 ,,,this sint looking good08:06
robotgeekbLaZeD: just download it from http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/faac/libfaac-dev_1.24clean-0ubuntu3_i386.deb08:06
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robotgeekbLaZeD: hmm, yes. remove that libfaac0 maybe08:07
robotgeekbLaZeD: i am just using us.archive.ubuntu.com, i think (the http page was directed tehre)08:08
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bLaZeDwell it seems to be all broken now..08:10
bLaZeDhttp://pastebin.ulteo.us/25608:11
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robotgeekbLaZeD: try using us.archive instead of archive, maybe that helps.08:12
robotgeekbLaZeD: do you want my sources.list?08:12
bLaZeDrobotgeek, nah ill just add that to mine08:13
bLaZeDrobotgeek, but thanks08:13
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bLaZeD=)08:13
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fooIf fsck says this .. Inode 9224199 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED. and /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced. ... then the filesystem has errors and I need to fix it, right? Also says ... /dev/sda1: ********** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors ******** .. system has no badblocks08:13
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bLaZeD!restricted08:20
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:20
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sevenkubuntu dvd ripper        dvd2Xvid ?08:25
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robotgeekseven: dvdrip, i think08:27
robotgeekbut that is cli, i believe08:27
bLaZeDwell i still cant install that package.....wondering if somthing is realy messed up with apt08:28
sevenrobotgeek: i read it can be done with k3b but it looks like i am to stupid to do that08:29
sevenor i am missing something08:29
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robotgeekseven: i believe all the details are present in k3b -> help08:30
korielhow can I stop and start the superdaemon in kubuntu?08:30
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korielkillall -HUP inetd doesn't work, nor killall -HUP xinetd..08:31
korielno inetd or xinetd process is running08:31
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momalwhats the command to remove the ext3 reserve08:33
sevenrobotgeek: yes i know that why i guess that i am too stupid08:33
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momalwhats the command to remove the ext3 reserve08:35
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robotgeekseven: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-multimedia/k3b/howtos.html#videointroduction08:35
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momalanyone ???? HeLPwhats the command to remove the ext3 reserve08:37
mjunxmomal: tune2fs or something like that08:37
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MDCorehey all. I'm trying to add an additional screen resolution to my xorg.conf. I'm currently running 1400x1050 on my laptop and what to add 1024x768 for a game, but I don't want it to default to that resolution when I log in (what happened when I tried). Any ideas ?08:48
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[-sara-] can kubuntu work as a live cd?08:49
CVirus[-sara-] : yes08:49
[-sara-] does it support new laptops like hp pavillion dv 5000?08:50
[-sara-] and does it come with dev tools like g++ and gcc?08:51
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mjunx[-sara-] : I don't think it does, but you can install them easily08:52
mjunxinstall gcc g++ binutils etc.08:52
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Op3rhi anyone up?08:53
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Op3rcan anyone help me configure a wifi pcmcia card to work?08:53
XVampireX[-sara-] : You mean does your laptop support linux, and I'd bet it should, HP supports Linux08:54
Op3rI mean I tried connecting to my wifi router. I even removed the wep key and have it open and still cant connec t08:54
Op3r:(08:54
XVampireXah08:54
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robotgeekOp3r: try knetworkmanager08:55
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mjunxor kwlan08:55
Op3rsudo apt-get install kwlan?08:55
Op3rinstalling it now08:56
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d03boywhat can I do if my computer completely freezes up09:02
d03boymouse wont even move09:02
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d03boydo i have to do a hard reset?09:02
robotgeekOp3r: nope, i meant kdenetworkmanager09:02
jayron_hmmm Im getting errors09:02
robotgeekd03boy: yeah, if it quits on you.09:02
jayron_cant find kdenetworkmanager09:03
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londo4Hallo, what is the Hype-Terminal for kubuntu?09:04
robotgeeklondo4: hyperterminal?09:04
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robotgeekor hyped terminal, which would be yakuake :)09:05
londo4yes09:05
londo4yakuake?09:05
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londo4robotgeek: yakuake?09:05
robotgeeklondo4: nope09:05
londo4robotgeek: a programe to connect a comport to the router09:06
robotgeeklondo4: minicom, kermit09:07
robotgeeklondo4: there is a small tip on this page, http://www.linuxfocus.org/English/July2004/09:07
robotgeeklondo4: i would recommend google also :)09:08
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londo4robotgeek: ok09:08
robotgeeklondo4: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/RedHat/2005-09/0146.html apparently telnet also works09:08
jayron_hmmm09:08
jayron_useless to configure my wifi for me :(09:08
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jayron_or I should reinstall kubuntu again09:09
robotgeekjayron_: nope, that's not going to help09:09
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robotgeekjayron_: knetworkmanager works decently well for me, however it works only if your /etc/network/interfaces is empty09:10
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jayron_robotgeek, how do you install that? will it make my lan card go kaputs?09:10
robotgeekjayron_: i.e., except for auto lo; iface lo inet loopback lines09:10
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robotgeekjayron_: your wireless card already works, or you need to install drivers?09:11
jayron_robotgeek, its detected in kubuntu09:11
kinvhey ppl! got 1 question... kubuntu running great..except! when i restart/start pc it goes to tty1 but its not gui.. i loging but can't startx cuz it running on tty7.. anyone know how i can make it so x starts when i start my pc ?09:11
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jayron_i mean when I use wireless lan manager it shows my wifi router09:11
jayron_so I presume it is really working09:12
robotgeekjayron_: yes, it is. what is your issue then?09:13
cheesypieceshello there, anyone got any experience with samba?09:13
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jayron_robotgeek, it wont connect even if i remove the wep key on the router i left the router open09:13
kinvdoes any1 know how i could fix this problem...09:13
jayron_still get connection failed09:13
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kinvhey ppl! got 1 question... kubuntu running great..except! when i restart/start pc it goes to tty1 but its not gui.. i loging but can't startx cuz it running on tty7.. anyone know how i can make it so x starts when i start my pc ?09:15
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robotgeekcheesypieces: just ask09:15
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robotgeekkinv: weird. try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, though i doubt it will solve your issue09:15
kinvi have never had this happen b4... its so wierd09:16
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robotgeekjayron_: i'm now confused. you state that you can get to the router configuration page, using your wireless card? am i right?09:16
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kinvrobotgeek: nah that didnt fix it.. any way i can set startx to load on tty1? cuz tty1 is what loads as default09:19
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robotgeekkinv: do you get an gui if you do "/etc/init.d/kdm restart"09:21
cheesypiecesdoes anyone know how to get into a samba share from windows without it asking for a username and password?09:21
robotgeekcheesypieces: okay, the samba is setup on linux?09:21
cheesypiecesyes09:21
d03boygah, I cant get this wireless to work09:22
cheesypiecesi can see the computer in windows, but when i try to access it it asks me for a username and password09:22
cheesypiecesno username or passwords i've got work09:22
XVampireX!wireless09:23
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ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:23
XVampireXd03boy: try that link maybe?09:23
d03boyalready have........ its completely useless :P09:23
kinvrobotgeek: i just restarted and tty1 can up.. i logged in... did what u said and got this: Stopping K Dispaly manager: kdm not runningkill: 129: Operation not permitted09:23
robotgeekcheesypieces: you need to make sure that there is a public account,09:23
kinvrobotgeek: i just did start x and it started09:23
XVampireXd03boy: hmm, second09:24
robotgeekd03boy: what issue did it give you?09:24
guglielf!kernel09:24
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild09:24
cheesypiecesrobotgeek: okm how do i do that?09:24
robotgeekcheesypieces: or a guest ok, see "man smb.conf" for details09:24
cheesypiecesrobotgeek: ok, thank you09:25
d03boywell i tried setting up my wireless card and when I do iwconfig it says "access point: invalid"09:25
d03boyso im just not sure whats working and what isnt09:25
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robotgeekd03boy: okay. let us take it one step at a time.09:26
robotgeekd03boy: lsmod | grep bcm43xx09:26
d03boy3 things09:27
robotgeekd03boy: cool, let us move to phase 209:27
d03boybcm43xx 124044 0 ... ieee80211softmac 2342 1 bcm43xx ... ieee80211 23456 2 bcm43xx, ieee80211softmac09:27
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robotgeekd03boy: ifconfig09:28
d03boyeth0, eth1, and lo... eth0 is my ethernet, eth1 is myw ireless09:28
robotgeekd03boy: cool. are you currently on that ethernet connection?09:28
d03boynope09:28
robotgeekd03boy: good09:28
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robotgeekd03boy: "ifconfig eth0 down", "ifconfig eth1 down"09:29
robotgeekwith sudo, err09:29
d03boyk09:30
d03boynow ifconfig just shows lo09:30
robotgeekd03boy: cool09:30
robotgeekd03boy: sudo ifconfig eth1 up09:30
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d03boydone09:31
robotgeekd03boy:  sudo iwlist eth1 scan09:31
d03boyno scan results09:31
d03boyim on laptop. maybe its physically disabled?09:31
robotgeekd03boy: then it is not seeing your wireless access point for some reason09:31
robotgeekd03boy: unlikely that that would work in linux :)09:31
d03boyi think its a bios thing09:32
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jayron_robotgeek,09:34
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Op3rrobotgeek, i type  sudo iwlist eth1 scan and it showed my wireless router09:35
Op3rnow the main problem is how to connect into it09:35
robotgeekd03boy: hmm, google says the powermanagement might be interfering09:35
d03boyhmm09:35
robotgeekOp3r: great. if you use knetworkmanager, all that is done nicely for you09:35
robotgeekd03boy: sadly, broadcom sucks. i also have a broadcom, but thankfully it works09:37
Op3rrobotgeek, is that whats in the system settings -> network settings?09:37
d03boyrobot, do you use ndiswrapper?09:37
Op3roh ok09:37
d03boyive had it working with ndiswrapper but I was hoping the drivers would work better :\09:37
robotgeekd03boy: no, i am on powerpc (ibook), and use the same drivers09:37
d03boyapparently they dont09:37
Op3rim installing it now09:37
robotgeekOp3r: make sure you have nothing in your /etc/network/interfaces except the lo stuff09:37
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Op3rrobotgeek, so that means wiping out my lan card too or it will just go revert when I connect my lan cables?09:38
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robotgeekOp3r: it managees automagically :)09:39
robotgeekOp3r: back your old one up somewhere, just in case it does not work09:39
Op3rill just retain auto lo right?09:39
d03boywow this laptop is pissing me off. it has froze about 5 times so far and I just installed this bitch 2 days ago09:39
d03boyand ive hardly touched it09:39
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robotgeekOp3r: yes, and the line below it09:40
Op3rerr09:40
Op3rok09:40
Op3ra good thing i have a back up09:40
robotgeekd03boy: google seems to say bad things about that card, sorry09:41
Op3rrobotgeek, then restart right?09:41
d03boyi'll just use ndiswrapper09:41
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robotgeekOp3r: hmm, nope. just start the applet, alt + f2, knetworkmanager09:42
Op3rrobotgeek, it can only connect to wep!?09:43
fulat2krobotgeek: yeay!  it worked :P09:43
robotgeekfulat2k: awesome!09:43
robotgeekOp3r: that depends on your card, i think09:44
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robotgeekOp3r: trying wpa?09:44
d03boymother son of a bitch......... now this damn thing froze while booting up on the "Loading hardware drivers"09:44
d03boyi hate this damn laptop09:44
fulat2krobotgeek: umm... one more question.  i'm using kubuntu 6.10 on a laptop and somehow the touchpad is configured to emulate mouse wheel at the right side of the touchpad.  any idea how to disable that?09:44
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Op3rrobotgeek, yep im trying wpa09:45
robotgeekfulat2k: hmm, i would guess some option in either K-> Menu -> System Settings -> Mouse (doubtful), or /etc/X11/xorg.conf (more likely)09:45
robotgeekd03boy: please don't swear.09:46
robotgeek!coc > d03boy09:46
fulat2krobotgeek: can't find anything in system settings -> keyboard & mouse. lemme try xorg.conf09:46
robotgeekOp3r: works?09:46
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Op3rrobotgeek, all i can see is the option for wep09:46
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robotgeekOp3r: then your card's driver does not support wpa, i guess09:47
robotgeekOp3r: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerHardware09:47
Op3roh well might as well use wep09:47
robotgeekOp3r: heh09:48
cheesypiecesrobotgeek: i still can't get samba to work properly09:48
cheesypiecesi can access my windows machines ok form kubuntu, but not the other way round09:48
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robotgeekcheesypieces: okay, where are you at?09:49
fuzzy!xbox09:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:50
cheesypiecesi've set all the folers and things i want to share09:50
robotgeekcheesypieces: have you looked at the sharing tab in K-menusystem settings?09:50
cheesypieceswhich seems to have gone ok09:50
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cheesypiecesyes, and i'm sure i've got everything the way i want it09:50
fuzzydoes anybody know how I can share my music and movies from my computer to mye 360?09:50
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cheesypiecesbut i can't see any of the folders in windows, just the computer09:51
cheesypiecesand if i try to look in that it asks me for a usrname and password09:51
d03boyoh great09:51
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d03boyBUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!09:51
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robotgeekcheesypieces: what does "testparm" tell you09:52
cheesypieceserm not much09:52
cheesypiecessounds fun though09:52
robotgeekcheesypieces: can you paste that somewhere?09:52
cheesypiecesyeah ok09:52
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robotgeekd03boy: crazy09:53
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d03boyim definetly going to throw this laptop out a window soon09:54
fuzzydo it do it :P09:54
devinus:-)09:54
cheesypiecesd03boy i know how you feel09:54
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cheesypiecesrobotgeek: if i run that command in konsole it tells me all my shares and that09:55
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cheesypiecesone of them is 'global'09:55
cheesypiecescould that be the one i need to change?09:55
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pipJucato: Hi09:56
robotgeekcheesypieces: the way i have it setup is just having a demo share (i modified the cdrom share in "man smb.conf")09:56
cheesypiecesrobotgeek: how do you mean a demo share?09:57
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robotgeekcheesypieces: just for testing, err09:58
cheesypieceserm.. yeah, i knew that09:58
cheesypiecesahem09:58
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cheesypiecesrobotgeek, how did you modify the cdrom share?09:59
robotgeekcheesypieces: just copy the same thing with a [test]  bracket09:59
cheesypiecesnow i'm confused10:00
cheesypiecesthe same thing as what?10:00
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robotgeekcheesypieces: okay, i will post it somewhere10:00
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robotgeekcheesypieces: http://pastebin.ca/25650210:04
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robotgeekcheesypieces: however, you may have to login in windows as nobody10:05
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cheesypiecesrobotgeek: how do I log onto windows as nobody?10:06
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robotgeekcheesypieces: i mean, when you are connecting to share, give username nobody10:07
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cheesypiecesoh i see10:08
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cheesypiecesrobotgeek, ok i've editted the file10:11
cheesypiecesdo i need to restart anything to get it to work?10:12
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robotgeekcheesypieces: hope it works10:12
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cheesypiecesrobotgeek, hasn't worked10:12
cheesypiecesstill the same10:12
cheesypiecesi can't log on as nobody10:13
robotgeekcheesypieces: i think you might also need to add a file /etc/samba/smbusers with "nobody" in it10:14
robotgeekcheesypieces: i am trying to recall from memory, i did this last week10:15
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robotgeekit was very easy to do with ubutu's gui though, to be honest10:15
cheesypiecesyeah, i get the feeling it should be10:16
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robotgeekcheesypieces: you should definetly be able to login using your userid and password (if you set it up using kde)10:17
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cheesypiecesrobotgeek, yeah i know10:17
cheesypiecesbut i can;t10:17
cheesypieces:(10:17
pipCan you read me ?10:18
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robotgeekpip: no :)10:18
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ScarFreewillwhat pkg do i need if i want the source of my current running kernel (2.6.17-10-386) btw is there a deb pkg for cdemu?10:19
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guidenobuto! | guiden10:33
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guidenubotu! | guiden10:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about guiden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:34
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guidenI've heard that people can actually play windows games in linux, is there a guide that can help me?10:54
guidenwith this10:54
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k_oshguiden: have a look at cedega.10:56
k_osh!cedega10:56
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega10:56
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guideneh? it cost money?! :)10:58
guidenaha10:59
guidennever mind10:59
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guidenis kaffeine the video player in kubuntu?11:04
visik7yes it is11:06
guidenim trying to watch a dvd11:06
visik7you need to install some libs11:06
visik7for dvd11:06
visik7!restricted11:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:06
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guidenok thanks11:13
pc5hola11:13
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guidenhow many people are developing kubuntu, are they also following the development of ubuntu and debian?11:14
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pc5hello11:22
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XVampireXguiden: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde11:23
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cheesypiecesdoes anyone know how to access samba through a gui?11:24
unix_infidelcheesypieces: apt-cache showpkg smb4k11:24
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cheesypiecesi'm sure there used to be an option in system settings for samba11:26
cheesypiecescan't seem to find it11:26
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Jucatosmb:/ in Konqueror?11:27
cheesypiecesJucato, I mean to change the settings11:27
cheesypiecesi don't like editing the config file11:27
Jucatoah11:28
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eilkerwhat command to check my filesystem ?11:28
cheesypiecesis there a graphical or web based way to set up samba?11:29
guidenok11:30
guidenhey I can't play mp3 either11:30
unix_infidelcheesypieces: yes, but its not recommended.11:31
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unix_infidelis shift+pg up/dn a native feature in a tty shell to allow scrolling?11:31
cheesypiecesunix_infidel, ok i'll bear that in mind11:31
cheesypiecesso how do i do it then?11:31
unix_infidelcheesypieces: look at swat11:31
cheesypiecesunix_infidel, i've installed that but i don't know how to run it11:32
unix_infidelit'll help you configure most everything, but be advised its known to be more of a pain.11:32
cheesypiecesunix_infidel: how do i run swat?11:33
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cheesypiecesunix_infidel, I can't find how to launch swat11:38
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unix_infidelcheesypieces: try localhost:901 in firefox.11:39
cheesypiecesunix_infidel i don't have firefox11:40
cheesypiecesjust konqueror11:40
unix_infidelany browser will do.11:40
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cheesypiecesAn error occurred while loading http://localhost:901: Could not connect to host localhost (port 90111:41
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unix_infidelhttp://copia.ogbuji.net/blog/2006-01-26/The_madnes11:43
unix_infideltry that out.11:43
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cheesypiecesunix_infidel, ah that might b useful11:44
cheesypiecestvm11:44
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crystalBonjour bonjour11:52
TamerDEHi people! Is there a way to start the console instead of the graphical installer for the latest kubuntu version?!11:52
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icheyneI think you can do it at the login screen when you click the session button, but I am not sure11:55
icheyneoh the installer!11:55
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icheynetry the alternate cd11:55
TamerDEyes, I don't want KDE to be loaded, I want the console installer.11:55
icheyne!alternate | TamerDE11:56
ubotuTamerDE: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.11:56
TamerDElike that one from 6.0.611:56
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TamerDEI downloaded the normal kubuntu, and the installer starts. I cannot enter the textmode or do I have to download one other version from the net?!11:57
icheynedownload the other cd11:57
TamerDE:(11:57
TamerDEwhere is the link?!11:57
icheyneits with the regular downloads11:58
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TamerDEthanks , I am downloading it now.12:01
unix_infidelanyone happen to read escape code?12:01
unix_infidel^[Oa12:01
unix_infideltrying to figure out what keys that maps to with a screenrc12:02
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icheyneTamerDE, np12:03
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fritzalbsono italiano12:06
fritzalb la prima volta che utilizzo kubuntu, diio quanto sono imbranato12:07
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Jucato!it12:10
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:10
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eilkerany help pls ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33654/12:10
eilker!partiton editor12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partiton editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
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eilkercan qtparted be used when kubuntu is working ?12:19
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gnomefreakeilker: yes its built for kde12:22
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DavieyHi, does has anybody tried logging in using XDMCP under edgy?12:31
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Davieythrive of activity here today!12:40
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olivierme gustaria hacer una pregunta sobre ubuntu edgy...12:44
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olivierlo tengo instalado en un amd64 (k8) y no puedo lograr la compatibilidad con 32 bits.12:45
olivierHe intentado seguir las instrucciones de la pagina de BULMA12:46
oliviery ni con esas.12:46
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olivierAlguna ayuda?12:46
SlimGWhen trying to play mono channel .wav files in amaroK i get this terrible noise from the speakers, the wav plays at normal speed and i can hear the voices. But I can play mono channel .wav files in Kaffeine without any problem, where is the problem located? (edgy)12:46
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Davieythrive of activity here today!12:55
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DavieyHi, does has anybody tried logging in using XDMCP under edgy?12:58
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[GuS] Bonjour...01:09
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wildchildbonjoUR01:09
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pipHello01:10
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ambehall!se01:11
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se01:11
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smoenuxHey all... quick question... can I use debian packages in Kubuntu?01:12
pipThere were some icons (programs) on my panel,and I add a Systen Tray,then the icons dispeared at once, what was going on ? How to let the icons appear again ?01:12
_4strO`it's a trap question01:13
pipsmoenux: I think so01:13
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nuxilhi all01:13
fred_lu01:13
smoenuxpip, lol... thanks I'll give it a try... I want to install the Cairo-Clock with my xgl, but I only get a debian package01:13
nuxilhow can i remove a user from a group from the cli? without edit the /etc/group file manualy01:14
nuxili dont want to del a user,, just remove the user from a group01:14
smoenuxnuxil, i'm newb, so don't listen to me ... lol ... but, have you tried under the system settings? you can manage users there01:15
pipthe icons are between the "Desktop Preview & Paper" and the clock, and I add a System Tray(if I could remember),then the icons dispeared at once, how to recover them ?01:15
Jucatosmoenux: if by "debian package" you mean a .deb package, more or less you can install them. but if you mean getting them from the Debian repositories, no.01:15
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pipJucato: Hi,can you help me ,sir ? : )01:17
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Jucatopip: which icons disappeared?01:18
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smoenuxpip, is it not a applet you need to add? maybe ?01:18
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smoenuxjucato, I think he is referring to the icons, similair to the windows tray01:18
_4strO`think the icon desappear after a crach01:19
smoenuxyeah... the system tray01:19
Jucatoah the System Tray? right-click on the panel, Add Applet to Panel, look for System Tray, then add01:19
pipJucato: such as the power manager and amaroK and so on,but I think they are affected by my configuration01:19
jerrewill it be possible to have kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop...if i install xubuntu-desktop will it delete kubuntu-desktop01:19
pipJucato: yeah.the system tray,! ; )01:19
Jucatojerre: it's possible to have them all. it won't delete anything01:19
jerrejucato:can i switch bet them01:20
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Jucatojerre: yes. through the Session options in the Login screen01:20
pipJucato: thanks ,but why did they dispeard just now ?01:20
nuxilsmoenux your totaly correct. im not going to listen to you,,01:20
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jerrejucato:thank u very much01:20
Jucatopip: I have no idea...01:20
nuxili want it done on cli01:21
pipJucato: I might clicked on the remove the system tray from the panel ; /01:21
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smoenuxnuxil ... lol01:22
nuxilgpasswd ;D01:23
Jucatonuxil: not sure, but "deluser [user]  [group] " might be what you're looking for, in any case, "man deluser" to check01:23
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smoenuxDoes anyone know of a good Desktop clock applet similair to cairo-clock (cairo clock is for gnome)01:23
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gnomefreaksmoenux: check in superkarmba ;)01:24
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Jucatodoes superkaramba work even with xgl/compiz/beryl?01:25
gnomefreaki dont see why not other than cpu/ram usage01:26
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Jucatognomefreak: I mean transparency effects... anyway... it's his problem :P01:27
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smoenux>,<  -- not another black window :(01:27
gnomefreakJucato: apt?01:27
Jucatono01:27
gnomefreakdamnit01:27
Jucatokernel panic...01:27
gnomefreakJucato: thats normal01:27
gnomefreaklol01:27
Jucatohehe01:27
gnomefreakJucato: what is the message01:27
Jucatohehe I didn't take note... I can only see the message if I boot into recovery mode01:28
Jucatogood thing I took  a snapshot of feisty *before* I restarted it :)01:28
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gnomefreaknone of them say something like pci bios bad or something like that01:28
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JucatoI'll check again...01:29
Jucatoheh I thought it'd be easier if I installed on vmware. lol01:29
gnomefreaknever ;)01:30
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Jucatoouch...01:31
gnomefreaki have others that i need to work on01:31
Jucatoyou dual/triple/multi boot?01:31
gnomefreakdual01:31
Jucatobetween edgy and feisty?01:32
gnomefreakno :( windows and feisty01:32
gnomefreakim screwed either way01:32
Jucatooh... and you're on feisty now?01:32
gnomefreakalways01:32
nuxilJucato ^^ did you see the comman i pasted before you wrote :P01:32
gnomefreakits rare i boot windows01:32
nuxil*command01:32
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JucatoI'd dual boot too, if it wasn't that inconvenient...01:32
Jucatonuxil: no I didn't01:32
nuxilgpasswd01:33
nuxil:)01:33
gnomefreakbrb lets see if i screwed anything up yet01:33
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nuxilgpasswd -d user group01:33
Jucatoah ok01:33
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kamohi, my hdd failed and i'm trying to boot from the kubunty bootable cd (using the latest one). My question is how can i make the system ignore the HDD because when it tryes to start the enterprise volume management system it starts enlessly to display errors like this one: "Buffer I/O error on device dm_0, logical block 27232, 27233, etc...01:36
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smoenuxwhat is the difference with sudo and kdesu ?01:41
Jucato!kdesu | smoenux01:43
ubotusmoenux: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo01:43
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smoenuxah... ok.... 'cause I ran this "kdesu apt-get update" in the terminal and got a error.... so I just ran "sudo apt-get update" and it updated fine01:44
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londo4I have installed FrostWire but I can`t get hem work, who can help with FrostWire?01:46
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Jucatosmoenux: basically you use kdesu for GUI apps, and sudo for CLI commands01:47
londo4it try to open but after some second  it stop01:47
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smoenuxthanks Jucato01:49
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pipcan I upgrade 6.06 to 6.10 ?01:56
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Schalken!supertux01:56
ubotusupertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 228 kB, installed size 548 kB01:56
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Jucato!upgrade | pip01:56
ubotupip: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:56
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Jucatopip: but if that's  a very fresh install of Kubuntu, I'd suggest just installing Edgy directly01:57
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SchalkenJucato: you mean backup, delete and install?01:57
xwolf-upgrading dapper to edgy always means problems.. hehe.01:58
pipJucato: fresh install,what do you mean ?01:58
pipxwolf-: why ?01:58
xwolf-this is the second time i have to resort to text-mode to complete the installation01:58
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snpz^install fresh is better in this case01:58
Jucatopip: fresh install  means you just installed within the last 6 hours and didn't do much yet01:58
pipxwolf-: I just installed Drapper  :  /01:58
xwolf-some broken packages01:58
xwolf-pip: i suggest you install edgy from scratch01:59
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snpz^pip, dapper is better that edgy in my oppinion01:59
pipJucato: I did not do much yet,and just updating now01:59
xwolf-specially if you're even newer to linux than me01:59
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pipsnpz^: than ?01:59
Jucatopip: follow the upgrade instructions very very carefully01:59
Jucato!upgrade | pip01:59
ubotupip: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:59
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snpz^i think that kubuntu 6.06.1 is best choise01:59
xwolf-snpz^: i don't think it's better, but... problem-free.02:00
snpz^right02:00
Jucatosnpz^: probably, but not for everyone. some people need the newer kernel to make some hardware work, afaik02:00
xwolf-the main glitch still seems to be broken packages02:00
pipsnpz^: : ) good02:00
snpz^it's better because of problem-free02:00
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snpz^Jucato, where is the problem to upgrade kernel?02:00
xwolf-Jucato: how well did your upgrade go?02:00
pipsnpz^: 6.10 is not problem -free ?02:00
xwolf-snpz^: sometimes kernel upgrading is necessary02:01
snpz^afaik - no02:01
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xwolf-pip: that's figure of speech02:01
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snpz^xwolf-, sometimes it is02:01
Jucatosnpz^: problem is you'd have to compile the kernel yourself on Dapper. 2.6.17 isn02:01
snpz^there is a lot step-by step manuals how to do that02:01
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Jucatoisn't available on Dapper02:01
franzmaxHello02:01
xwolf-sup franzmax02:01
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xwolf-but truth is.. edgy is prettier :P02:02
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nikitahow can i change display power setting from 5 hours to any other? when i change it from kcontrol it changes, but only before the first reboot :(02:02
snpz^right02:02
snpz^Jucato, i think that edgy is pretty bugy02:02
nikitathen it's again 5 hours02:03
franzmax Need a little help: I likely hit something wrong and now my kicker toolbar is disappeared02:03
snpz^6.10.1 will be ok02:03
pipJucato: Hi,why the Chinese is poor in konqueror,since I have installed Chinese support02:03
Jucatonot really. the upgrade may be buggy. But I haven't experienced much problem02:03
Jucatosnpz^: there will be no 6.10.102:03
xwolf-Jucato: agreed.02:03
Jucatopip: I don't know really02:03
snpz^Jucato, who knows02:03
snpz^6.06.1 was02:03
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pipJucato: ok02:03
Jucatosnpz^: that's because Dapper is LTS, so it needed a point release. Edgy isn't02:03
snpz^there was a lot of bug fixes02:03
pipI am updating my 6.06 with Drapper source list ,not dangerous risk02:04
Jucatothere will be security updates in Edgy too, but not in the form of a point release02:04
snpz^ok02:04
snpz^if u say so02:04
snpz^:)02:04
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Jucatopip: it is dangerous if you don't follow the instructions for upgrading to Edgy carefully02:04
xwolf-edgy came out quicker, didn't it? breezy->dapper took longer02:04
Jucatoxwolf-: edgy came out "quicker" because Dapper came out late02:05
xwolf-hm...02:05
JucatoDapper was almost 2 months late, so Edgy had only less than 5 months02:05
franzmaxHow do I access kicker toolbar settings if kicker is hidden and I can't make it appear?02:05
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Jucatofranzmax: Alt+F2, "kcontrol"02:05
xwolf-franzmax: perhaps alt+f2?02:06
Jucato*that* is one of those Edgy "bugs" :)02:06
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xwolf-irssi is so... different :)02:06
franzmaxxwolf : if i give command kicker it says it's already running....02:06
xwolf-franzmax: then kill it and start it again. or run kcontrol like Jucato said02:07
xwolf-but i don't even know what 'kicker' is, so, sorry.02:07
Jucatofranzmax: no need to restart kicker. to get to kicker's settings, just launch kcontrol02:07
Jucatoxwolf-: Kicker, the KDE Panel02:07
xwolf-Jucato: no change.02:07
franzmaxxwolf: how can I kill it without knowing its PID ?02:07
xwolf-franzmax: just listen to Jucato, he's like ages from where i am.02:08
Jucatoxwolf-: what do you mean?02:08
franzmaxthanks Jucato02:08
Jucatowhy do you need to kill kicker?02:08
xwolf-Jucato: i still cant connect 'kicker' to its visual appearance02:08
pipJucato: yes,recently,I won't upgrade Drapper before I work on it smootnly02:08
cox377has anyone here use dream linux?02:08
xwolf-but wait till i get X running.02:08
Jucatoxwolf-: the panel? that horizontal bar that sits at the bottom?02:09
franzmaxi don't... iwas only answering to xwolf-02:09
xwolf-pip: that's dapper02:09
xwolf-Jucato: oh. THAT's kicker?02:09
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pipJucato: I dont know Kaffeine,does it as well as mplayer ?02:09
pip*is02:09
Jucatopip: yeah, it's good.02:09
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pipif not,I need to install mplayer02:10
xwolf-uhm, restarting pc.02:10
Jucatopip: you just need the right codecs to play stuff on Kaffeine and Amarok.02:10
xwolf-amarok got me drooling all over when it discovered an unknown mp3 i had ages ago02:10
Jucatofranzmax: were you able to solve your problem already?02:11
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xwolf-damn, i'm getting a lot of warnings02:12
xwolf-perl locale setting and shit02:12
franzmaxJucato, can't find anything wrong in my settings for the toolbar02:12
franzmaxbut still it doesn't come out02:12
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Jucatofranzmax: but it says that kicker is running? did you check the Hiding settings?02:13
SchalkenA certain Amarok script says I need QtRuby, RubyGtk or TkRuby. Does anyone know what package would contain any of these?02:13
Schalken!ruby02:13
uboturuby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB02:13
franzmaxwait, i could set it to come out by going at the top left of screen02:13
Schalken!qtruby02:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qtruby - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:13
franzmaxand it comes out02:13
xwolf-Schalken: search ruby in your package manager02:13
Jucatofranzmax: so it was the hiding settiings?02:13
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Schalkenxwolf-: Ruby is installed, but not QtRuby or any of the others, apparently.02:14
franzmaxmost likely yes, but i still can't get it out by simply going at the screen bottom02:14
bxnppeople i am running kubuntu dapper, and i have a little problem with konqueror, sometimes when it crashes and when it does i cant restart it anymore02:14
xwolf-Schalken: 1. no need to add repositories? 2. are there no other ruby packages in the list?02:15
danielbmaybe the problem is in the qt libraries02:15
Schalkenbxnp: put 'konqueror' into Konsole and see what it says.02:15
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pipJucato: there comes an error in one program named "kdnssd4:3.5.2"02:15
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Schalkenxwolf-: well none that have qt in their name02:15
bxnpit shows nothing it just hangs there Schalken02:15
rlji'm having some issues under edgy where device icons on the desktop for removable media show up in a weird way and are not very functional (although the entries when browsed through the media:/ ioslave are fine)02:15
Schalkenbxnp: it should give at least SOME output,02:15
pipand why am I using the http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper ....source,Australia 's ?02:15
bxnpnothing02:16
Jucatorlj: what do you mean by "weird" and "not very functional"?02:16
Schalkenpip: change it if you want.02:16
xwolf-Schalken: bxnp if you run konqueror from konsole, the error messages will appear and you will be able to pastebin it to us02:16
Jucatopip: try changing it to cn.archive.ubuntu.com if that server exists02:16
xwolf-sorry Schalken, that's for bxnp02:16
rljwhen i have a cd inserted and mounted for example, it shows up properly with the volume name in media:/, but on the desktop, there is instead a mounted cd icon with the title cdrom0 (the name of the mountpoint)02:16
franzmaxIt's ok now, thanks Jucato!  I only wonder how it could have happened02:16
bxnpthe problem is that it wont start, and is not giving any messages02:16
pipBut the updating is working now02:16
Jucatorlj: that's normal on Edgy02:17
rljand if i eject the cd so that there is no cd under media:/, the cdrom0 icon is still on the desktop02:17
xwolf-bxnp: restart kde and then do that.02:17
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Jucatorlj: if you've noticed, everywhere there is "media:/", it has been changed to "/media"02:17
Jucatothat's one of the side effects02:17
kamodoes the boot disk offer more than one kernel?02:17
rljwell, i do notice that the popup will direct to the mountpoint /media/cdrom0 instead of the media:/ ioslave wrapper which is nice i guess02:18
xwolf-kamo: you mean edgy desktop cd?02:18
rljhowever, always having an icon called cdrom0 on my desktop which looks to be mounted is not very nice02:18
kamoxwolf-, yes02:18
bxnpbrb i am gong to restart kde02:18
Schalkenxwolf-: aha, i found libqt-ruby02:18
xwolf-kamo: nope.02:18
Jucatorlj: you mean the icon doesn't disappear when you unmount?02:18
rljJucato: yes.02:18
rljJucato: and it will never have the proper volume name of the cd02:18
Jucatokamo: if I'm not mistaken, the Desktop CD only contains the -generic kernel02:18
kamoxwolf-, i'm trying to disable enterprise volume management system02:19
xwolf-Schalken: not trying to brag, but i'd tell you to search for libs02:19
Jucatorlj: the "cdrom0" name is normal. but remaining on your desktop after ejecting isn't02:19
kamoJucato, that's too bad02:19
rljJucato: also, if i'm not mistaken, i think other removable media never show up on desktop (like usb keys)02:19
Jucatokamo: why?02:19
xwolf-Schalken: that's nice to know if i ever bump into that problem.02:19
Jucatomy USB Card Reader shows up on the desktop02:19
kamoJucato, because enterprise volume mangement system starts by default02:19
rljJucato:  let me try that and verify, hang on a sec02:19
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xwolf-well, you won't be able to edit the cd's config files, i'd say.02:20
Jucatokamo: and? I mean about having no other kernels on the CD?02:20
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rljJucato: yep, my ipod will not show up on desktop, not even after it's mounted02:20
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rljJucato: maybe i am having dapper->edgy issues after all. but i seem to remember the regression occurred at some point after the upgrade, not because of it02:21
kamoJucato, due to that my system fails to start02:21
rljJucato: didn't really do any further investigation at the time02:21
Jucatokamo: you can't even start in Safe graphics mode?02:21
rljJucato: but it's sortof annoying by now :)02:21
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Jucatorlj: I haven't experienced that in Edgy so far...02:22
rljJucato: since i need to fire up a konqi with media:/ to use the eject or safely remove context menu items..02:22
kamoJucato, no02:22
Jucatorlj: going to /media doesn't help?02:22
rljJucato: whereas before i would just show desktop and do it from there02:22
JucatoI do it from the desktop currently... strange02:22
rljJucato: well, that is true. context menu items show up there too02:22
Jucatostrange.. (the desktop problem...)02:23
rljJucato: but i'm more used to browsing via sidebar to media:/ and ejecting than going directly to /media02:23
Jucatoah02:23
rlji rarely ever use the location bar when i use konqueror.02:23
rljfor some reason02:24
rljwhen i'm doing it graphically, i seem to prefer having it fully graphical. i guess i find konqi's tabcompletion a bit bad at times02:24
Jucatoheh, you should try Opera's... :P02:24
xwolf-well, time to restart after big upgrade.02:25
xwolf-be back soon.02:25
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rljJucato: well, when i remove the media, /media doesn't update the entries as nicely as media:/ does anyway. so i guess for the time being i prefer media:/02:25
Jucatoyeah, in that sense, media:/ is sometimes better.02:26
rljalthough i know the kio is incompatible with nonkdeapps so it makes sense not to use kde URIs in general if possible02:26
Jucatobut wait till you try to do symlinks using/in media:/02:26
rljafter all, kde just thinks /media is another directory (which it is)02:26
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rljJucato: well, yeah. but that hasn't made sense to me to do so far02:26
rljJucato: i'm fairly happy with the mountpoints hal suggests for most of the time02:27
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pipJucato: Hello,where is the source list ?02:27
rljso btw02:27
Jucato!upgrade | pip02:27
ubotupip: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:27
rljif media:/ is to be deprecated in kubuntu, where will i see the volume name of a cd?02:27
Jucatopip: follow those instructions if you want to upgrade to Edgy02:27
rljcause the mountpoint surely doesn't help out here...02:28
Jucatorlj: volume name? or the Label?02:28
rljJucato: hm. label i think02:28
pipJucato: NO,I dont ,I just want to change source list to local source02:28
rljJucato: sorry bout that02:28
Jucatorlj: ah... hm...02:28
Jucatopip: /etc/apt/sources.list02:28
snowiceI can't install kdar, because libdar3c2a is missing from my repositories (edgy and universe and multiverse uncommented). Where can I get that package?02:29
rljthat might actually be pretty interesting to have visible when you are staring at the desktop, wondering what that cd inserted actually is and if i should just eject it and put it back in its case...02:29
rljJucato: without firing up kde-hal-device-manager and having a look down the list ;)02:30
Jucatotrue. I think they left out that little detail...02:30
rljwhich i do all the time anyway because i'm interested in hal and what information it can dig up that most pre-hal programs can't02:30
rljbtw, that leads me to another question02:30
Jucato@_@02:31
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rljdoes kwrite and kde-hal-device-manager (to take some examples) have .desktop files? (i assume they do because they have icons associated with them). so why won't they work in katapult?02:32
rlji find it very annoying not to be able to use kwrite from katapult. and kde-hal-device-manager. :)02:33
Jucatorlj: I think their .desktop files need to be in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/applications, which means they have to be in the K Menu02:33
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Jucatoer.. not really sure about that one though02:34
Jucatoall I know is that they have to be in the K Menu to be accessible to Katapult02:34
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rljkde-hal-device-manager is definitely in kmenu02:35
rljdunno about kwrite02:35
Jucatokwrite isn't02:35
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rljmight not be per default if kubuntu want you to use kate most of the time02:35
Jucatoyou mean you can't run kde-hal-dev-manager from Katapult?02:35
rljhmmm02:35
rljactually02:35
h3sp4wnMay as well use vi all the time (as it is standard on any other UNIX system you may come across)02:36
rljit seems i can run it by it's .desktop name (which is "Device Manager")02:36
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Jucatorlj: use the app's name in K Menu when launching it from Katapult02:36
rljtrying as kde-hal-device-manager though, katapult parses it as an invalid math expression02:36
rlji never look at the kmenu ;)02:36
Jucatoheh02:37
rljif it's kde-hal-device-manager in the console and in the run prompt, then that's it's name!02:37
rlj:)02:37
rljat least, one of it's names02:37
snowiceit looks like the repositories are broken for kdar02:37
rljDevice Manager is fine too, but i think katapult should check the users PATH as well02:37
rljwell, that's one mystery solved...02:38
rljstill got the annoying cdrom0 mounted cd writer icon though with my empty drive..02:38
pipJucato: do you know how to insatll beryl ?02:39
Jucatono02:39
pipok02:39
rljoh another thing, i seem to be having random instability in a lot of kde components, primarily when i end the kde session (shutdown) but also at other times02:40
rljthinks like kdesktop and kicker crashing02:40
rljsegfaults i think. hasn't happened in a while now02:40
ryanakcain konqueror: smb://mshome/ , I see the host "big-den" (my windows computer). When I click on it, I get an error message saying "Could not connect to host for smb://big-den/". Yes, I have tried disabling the firewall on the windows box02:40
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Jucatoyou seem to have a very sick system rlj...02:41
rljJucato: might be :)02:41
rljJucato: but i'll prolly live with it until feisty or if i install some other distro02:41
rljJucato: too many settings and files to transfer to bother atm02:41
[-sara-] I want to compile .cpp files on Kubuntu as live cd02:41
rljif it works (mostly), i guess i'm happy02:41
Jucato[-sara-] : you would need to install build-essential02:41
Jucatobut you'd have to do that everytime you boot into the Live CD02:42
[-sara-] ahhh I see02:42
[-sara-] is it time consuming?02:42
Jucatoirritating :)02:42
Jucatoeven if you have a fast internet connection, you have to install it again and again02:43
rlj[-sara-] : depending on the speed of your internet access, since it will pull packages for gcc, make etc off the net. it will eat a bit more of your ram though since nothing is run from hard drive in the livecd session02:43
rlj[-sara-] : so all those packages will be downloaded and installed to the ramdisk02:43
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h3sp4wn[-sara-] : Or use a decent live cd which includes basic tools like that (knoppix / kanotix / grml - that I know of are all good)02:44
rlj[-sara-] : i think the recent gentoo livecds even have a gui nowadays, if you fancy that kind of setup02:45
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h3sp4wngrml is an excellent live cd (with stuff on it that is actually useful for a live cd) unlike openoffice who would ever run that from a live cd02:46
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MorrisseyHi, when show my fglrxinfo, it shows. "OpenGL version string: 1.3.1091 (X4.3.0-8.28.8)", usually people  have version 2.00 ... glxgears work great, but since beryl etc doesnt work I recon I dont have the proper composite ... has that anything to do with this? In advance, thank you02:52
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h3sp4wnYou need to use xgl02:58
SillyZgmorning02:58
h3sp4wnthe kanotix fglrx script has been recently fixed to work with ubuntu so using that would guarantee a working fglrx or use the radeon driver if you can (with aiglx)02:59
SillyZhas anyone worked with odbc connectors and crossover office?03:00
h3sp4wnhttp://kanotix.com/files/install-fglrx-debian.sh (use the deb's but it is a script which does it right)03:00
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ubuntuhello03:03
ryanakcain konqueror: smb://mshome/ , I see the host "big-den" (my windows computer). When I click on it, I get an error message saying "Could not connect to host for smb://big-den/". Yes, I have tried disabling the firewall on the windows box03:04
SillyZok how about intel dou core processors, which kernel should I run for max performance?? smp? smp_x64? smp_x32?03:04
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SillyZryanakca: are any of the drives shared on 'big-den' ? ie: \\big-den\c03:05
h3sp4wnIf you have 4gb of ram or more use x64 otherwise it won't make much different just use -generic03:05
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Xal2Is there a way to make the kubuntu CD directory structure like that of knoppix, where everything resides in the /knoppix folder?03:06
SillyZh3sp4wn: Ill have 1gb ram in the box03:06
SillyZh3sp4wn: its an intel duo core 1.8ghz w/ 2mb cache03:07
h3sp4wnSillyZ: Core 2 duo ? or just Core duo ?03:07
SillyZCore 2 duo03:08
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h3sp4wnWon't make a vast amount of difference03:08
SillyZsorry my bad its a Core DuoProcessor, model T225003:09
h3sp4wnWell you can't run x64 unless its a core 203:09
SillyZk03:09
h3sp4wnand the -generic kernel supports smp03:09
SillyZwell damn, the dude at delll told me it was a 2 x 64 bit processor, not a 2 x 3203:10
Xal2Haha, the dude at Dell03:10
SillyZdude im gettin a dell...... puff03:10
SillyZrofl03:10
h3sp4wnThe original core duo's are not 64 bit - doesn't make much difference either way but x64 is more interesting03:11
SillyZaye03:11
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SillyZI was under the understanding it was 2 x 64bit processors , not 2 x 32, but eitherway Ill just to *sigh* live with it heheh03:11
h3sp4wn64 bit is only really useful for > 4gb ram03:11
SillyZaye, and not many apps will take advantage of a 64 bit arch anyway03:12
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mc__h3sp4wn: that is not true03:13
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h3sp4wnmc__: What else is it useful for ?03:13
mc__h3sp4wn: if the programm is optimized 64bit can give a performance gain up to 30%03:13
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h3sp4wnmc__: Most desktop applications are not03:14
mc__h3sp4wn: thats true03:14
nanomikePostfix SASL is it possible?!? I've followed a lot of guides but i can't get it to work.03:14
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SillyZnow if  I can get office2k3 to run under cxoffice, ill be one happy camper03:15
h3sp4wnmc__: If he had said xeon or opteron my response would have been different03:15
SillyZanyone know about the odbc connectors under cxoffice?03:15
eilkerwhen i am in grub> console, do we have chance to view directories ?03:15
Xal2<3 OO.org03:15
Xal2What do you need MS Office for?03:15
SillyZmainly access, but I know theres kexi but it just isnt 'there' yet03:15
h3sp4wnMS Office is better than 00.org (they are both horrible though)03:16
SillyZagreeable and disagreeable to a point on either side of that fence03:16
Xal2For the average user, which most are when it comes to office applications, OO does just fine.03:16
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Xal2Most people don't use the advanced features of MS Office. I just can't justify the high price.03:17
SillyZme either who needs over 1400 'options'03:17
Quinn_Stormberyl;03:17
eilkerfind /boot/grub/splashimages/*.xpm.gz    ??03:18
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ryanakcaSillyZ: yes03:21
ryanakcaSillyZ: It worked untill a couple of weeks ago... I need to be able to access big-den so that in turn I can use my printer03:22
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SillyZis the printer still shared? has the sharename of the printer changed?03:23
SillyZhave you installed any firewalling software upon the linux box ?03:24
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SillyZimho, id delete the share on the printer, recreate it and try to reconnect to it from linux03:24
ryanakcaSillyZ: yes, no, no03:24
ryanakcadone that...03:24
ryanakcaI can't access anything on smb://big-den/03:25
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SillyZum...03:25
ryanakcaI need to be able to access the host first, and then I can worry about the printer03:25
SillyZit should be smb:\\ not //03:25
ryanakcasetting up the printer is easy...03:25
SillyZif your using / insteaad of \   thats 99% of the problem03:25
ryanakcaumm... no03:26
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ryanakcait's supposed to be smb://, at least according to konqueror...03:26
MorrisseyThe following packages have unmet dependencies:  compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed03:26
Morrisseywhat can I do?03:26
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SillyZIm sitting right here with my 'desktop' machine , named 'desktop' and smb:// dont work... its smb:\\ trust me03:26
ryanakcaMorrissey: install the dependency?03:27
Morrisseyryanakca, Ive tried03:27
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SillyZwindows shares have always used the backslash not the forward slash03:27
Morrissey  compiz-plugins: Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable03:27
MorrisseyE: Package csm has no installation candidate03:27
Morrisseythere we go :)03:27
wedgeVthe list of available keyboard layouts in Regional Settings -> Keyboard Layout is empty03:27
wedgeVedgy03:28
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ryanakcaMorrissey: then you might want to file a bug for konqueror. Open up konqueror, go to 'remote:/'. Click on samba shares.03:28
MetaBookfoziShi!03:28
MetaBookfoziSis there again abroken package?03:28
MetaBookfoziSmy konsole and krusader (that i see wants to use or load konsole) crashes anyitime i start03:28
Morrisseyryanakca, ive seen many people do it this way on the web though03:29
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MetaBookfoziShttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33678/03:29
MetaBookfoziSthis is the error when i starts krusader03:29
ryanakcameh, doesn't work here, "An error occurred while loading smb:\:           Timeout on server"03:30
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cryptomHi all, when compiling a kernel (linux-source package) I get the error: arch/um/include/kern_util.h:9:27: error: linux/threads.h: No such file or directory03:30
cryptomalthough I've installed the linux-headers package03:30
ryanakcaMorrissey: part of the problem might be that winbindd isn't installed/running03:33
Morrisseyryanakca, what?03:34
Morrisseydont think so03:34
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Morrisseyryanakca, whats your plan here?03:35
Morrisseyeither help or get lost03:35
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ryanakcaMorrissey: part of my samba problem might be that winbindd isn't installed/running03:35
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ryanakca!about winbind03:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about about winbind - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:36
Morrisseyryanakca, sorry, I really think you got the wrong person ... Im trying to get compiz working03:36
ryanakcaoops03:36
ryanakcasorry, I do03:36
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ryanakcaand SillyZ (the person who was helping me) has "disappeared"...03:37
wedgeVthe keyboard layout list in "System Settings->Regional Settings->Keyboard Layout" is empty for me, how do i fix that?03:37
ryanakcathe troubles of autocompletion, eh?03:37
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ryanakcaubotu, tell Morrissey about xgl03:38
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ryanakcahmm... odd...03:39
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ryanakcaMorrissey: for compiz and aiglx/xgl and beryl, go to #ubuntu-xgl :)03:39
BluesKajHowdy all ! :)03:39
ryanakcalol, I forgot please03:39
Morrisseythanks ryanakca :)03:39
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BluesKajryanakca, what exactly is beryl ? does it replace kde or is it eye candy window dressing03:46
BluesKaj?03:46
ryanakcaBluesKaj: it's super eye candy... uses GL... really cool03:46
ryanakcabut you need good hardware...03:46
ryanakcawell... kindof good hardware03:46
ryanakcait replaces kwin (kde window decorations)...03:47
Vegeta^When I play a video file, there is now sound? It's not because of lack of codec, since I had sound before. And I can hear system notification sounds. What is the problem then?03:47
ryanakcayou might want to look into it03:47
BluesKajryan I'm having trouble with GL , it screws up in the Google earth GUI03:47
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ryanakcaubotu, please tell BluesKaj about xgl03:47
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ryanakca!xgl > BluesKaj03:47
ryanakcawierd...03:48
Devil_Kinhey folks.. is there any way i can use a kubuntu cd and just get to a prompt? I need to re-install lilo, but I just can't get it NOT to boot X03:48
ryanakcacan you run glxgears?03:48
ryanakcaDevil_Kin: go ctrl-alt-f103:48
BluesKajdunno03:48
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Devil_Kinryanakca: it fails horribly at initialising X and ergo my system hangs, so that's not really an option03:48
ryanakcaDevil_Kin: kill X from there... and iirc, kubuntu uses grub03:48
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Devil_Kinryanakca: yah, i just need a 64-bit boot cd :p03:49
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ryanakcaDevil_Kin: at the bootup screen, is there an option for no X... I haven't used the cd in a while...03:49
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ryanakcaBluesKaj: try?03:49
Devil_Kinnope, but anyway, i got it to bootup without hanging, thx anyway, gonna fix my lilo now ;)03:50
BluesKajryanakca, looking03:50
ryanakcaBluesKaj: in konsole, just type "glxgears"03:50
BluesKajalready using fglrx driver03:51
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ryanakcaah...03:51
ryanakca!xgl03:51
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:51
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ryanakcaaiglx won't work for you then... if you're using fglrx...03:51
ryanakcaberyl is a branch off of compiz... well, kindof...03:52
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BluesKajryanakca, yup glxgears appears to work03:52
nileshhello03:52
ryanakcain konqueror: smb://mshome/ , I see the host "big-den" (my windows computer). When I click on it, I get an error message saying "Could not connect to host for smb://big-den/". Yes, I have tried disabling the firewall on the windows box.03:52
ryanakcaBluesKaj: good, is it choppy? or smooth?03:53
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ryanakcaBluesKaj: try fgl_glxgears03:53
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BluesKajryanakca, it's choppyand this message appears Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:54
ryanakcathat's normal, I believe...03:55
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Schalkenwhats an .tat.xdelta file?03:56
Schalkentar*03:56
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MlcloudSomeone have a link or tutorial on how to run and operate pppd?03:58
MlcloudI can't even get started on this thing..03:58
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BluesKajok  ryanakca ...I'm reading the eye cnady instructions :)03:58
BluesKajbbiab03:59
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ryanakcakk, see yah03:59
DaSkreechBluesKaj: see you03:59
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radaidhi04:12
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pip /join #minix04:13
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Angrataf!ati04:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:15
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woofercan i get some help please04:15
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fannagogannait's still turkey time huh?04:16
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fannagogannawhy not celebrate thanksgiving by watching the turkey ep of Aqua Teen Hunger Force?04:17
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DaSkreechwoofer: What do you need help with?04:23
MlcloudI wouldn't mind a bit of help myself.04:23
DaSkreech!ask04:23
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:23
MlcloudNice advice.04:23
MlcloudI can't get started at all in connecting to the internet through DSL04:24
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DaSkreechHi BluesKaj04:24
MlcloudSome people say it automatically detects, other use PPPD04:24
DaSkreechMlcloud: Do you get an ip address?04:24
Mlcloudbut finding all the information is...04:24
Mlcloudthrough sudo ifconfig?04:24
Mlcloudonly 127.0.0.104:24
DaSkreechMlcloud: Yes04:24
Mlcloudso nope.04:24
DaSkreechHmm04:24
DaSkreechok04:24
DaSkreechdo a normal ifconfig04:24
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DaSkreechdo you have an eth0 or an eth1 ?04:25
MlcloudHm.. this'll be troublesome.04:25
DaSkreechHow so?04:25
MlcloudTo do a normal ifconfig, i'd have to restart, boot into kubuntu;;04:25
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wooferi am in ubuntu live disk right now but when i install it gets stuck at the hd select and i have a ex3 partation already made04:25
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Mlcloudnot to mention I have no idea what an eth0 or 1 is.04:26
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Mlcloudgoogle time04:26
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DaSkreechMlcloud: I'm guessing you don't have two computers?04:26
BluesKajhi DaSkreech, ryanakca ...well no eye candy options that i can see , so far , but there is a an upgradeable compiz plugin , which will BREAK something if it upgrades in ADEPT04:26
MlcloudNope, which makes this a bit more difficult04:26
DaSkreechI see04:26
Mlclouddo you have any links for me to follow?04:26
DaSkreechWell want to explain how you get on the net in Windows?04:27
DaSkreechwoofer: where does it stall?04:27
ryanakcain konqueror: smb://mshome/ , I see the host "big-den" (my windows computer). When I click on it, I get an error message saying "Could not connect to host for smb://big-den/". Yes, I have tried disabling the firewall on the windows box.04:27
wooferright before i have to select a partation04:27
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MlcloudWindows detects my connection automatically04:27
BluesKajI have my login set to auto , so there are no XGL options ..is that a prob ?04:28
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DaSkreechwoofer: You are installing from the live cd?04:28
wooferyes i am04:28
DaSkreechMlcloud: ok what kind of network card do you have?04:28
ryanakcawhat port does svn run on?04:29
MlcloudNow, see, I think thats the problem.04:29
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DaSkreechwoofer: can you press Alt+Space and type qtparted and press enter ?04:29
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wooferwhich prog04:30
BluesKajoops , spoke too soon ...beryl seems to be in settings :)04:30
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wooferalt+space opens the menu bar at top left but i cannot type04:31
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DaSkreechwoofer: qtparted04:32
MlcloudHmm... "Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet"04:32
DaSkreechSe if you can open the hard drive04:33
DaSkreechMlcloud: Sounds innocuous enough04:33
DaSkreechdo you know the system settings in Kubuntu?04:33
Mlcloudnot sure what you mean by that.04:33
MlcloudKmenu->system settings?04:34
DaSkreechYes04:34
DaSkreechthere is a networking setting in there04:34
MlcloudYes.04:34
Mlcloudyep.04:34
DaSkreechI have a feeling that the network card is disabled by default04:34
wooferwhere d i type qtparted04:34
wooferdo*04:34
DaSkreechif you enable it it should work04:34
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MlcloudHmm... Where can I enable it?04:34
DaSkreechwoofer: press Alt+F2 and type kdesu qtparted04:35
MlcloudI need to find all this beforehand, so that I won't have to reset back and forth >.>04:35
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Angratafhow can i test my color resolution? i think i haven't 24 Bit, but my xorg.conf says i have04:35
wooferno good says location does not exist04:36
DaSkreechMlcloud: in System settings there is a networking section that has a Adminstrator mode at the bottom04:36
MlcloudYes.04:36
DaSkreechwoofer: tell me about your hard drive setup04:36
Mlcloud(tech support must be a difficult job) Also, after I enable it04:36
Mlcloudwhat will happen?04:36
MlcloudWill Kubuntu automatically detect, like windows does? Or do I have to do something after that?04:37
wooferits a 160 gig sata not sure of brand i have a ntfs / ex3 / swap partation setup04:37
DaSkreechMlcloud: once you do that then you will have a list of your network cards. Click on the one you want ( you'll probably only have one) and click enable04:37
DaSkreechwoofer: Maybe you might try the Kubuntu alternate install?04:37
wooferi have about teh same prob04:37
DaSkreechwoofer: I've heard of issues with sata on the live04:37
wooferi have to selct a driver for disk04:38
wooferwhich i dont know which one to choose04:38
DaSkreechMlcloud: By default it should be set to auto detect04:38
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MlcloudOkay, thats good to know.04:38
MlcloudI'll be right back then.04:38
wooferyea but it doesent detect04:38
DaSkreech there is a ... manage button I think that will allow you to chage it to dhcp if not04:38
ryanakcain konqueror: smb://mshome/ , I see the host "big-den" (my windows computer). When I click on it, I get an error message saying "Could not connect to host for smb://big-den/". Yes, I have tried disabling the firewall on the windows box.04:38
Angratafhow can i test my color resolution? i think i haven't 24 Bit, but my xorg.conf says i have04:38
wooferwow i been at it for 6 hours now lol and 7 cds04:39
Angrataf!screen resolution04:41
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Angrataf!ati04:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:41
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DaSkreec1woofer: hooray for power cuts04:44
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woofer?04:45
wooferman it was hard enough to get the live working on a ati04:45
hellbladehi. I want to post a suggestion about KDE usability. do you know where exactly it would be the right place? it's not specific to the kubuntu desktop but all of KDE404:45
wooferand now this hard disk thing04:45
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MlcloudBlegh, couldnl't find the network card list.04:46
Mlcloud<DaSkreech> Mlcloud: in System settings there is a networking section that has a Adminstrator mode at the bottom04:47
Mlcloud<DaSkreech> Mlcloud: once you do that then you will have a list of your network cards. Click on the one you want ( you'll probably only have one) and click enable04:47
Angratafaww, i've got a problem. how can i see mi color resolution (16 Bit, 24 Bit etc)04:47
wooferlet me ask a question do i have to let unutbu format my disk or already have it ready04:48
DaSkreec1Mlcloud: What did you see in System settings?04:48
DaSkreec1woofer: No you don't04:49
MlcloudEr, I just clicked the Network Settings04:49
Mlcloudand clicked Administrator mode04:49
Mlcloudtyped in password04:49
Mlcloudand... couldn't find anything.04:49
DaSkreec1Mlcloud: right04:49
wooferlet me start over again04:49
wooferlol04:49
DaSkreec1there was nothing there?04:49
wooferwith an unformatted paretation04:49
MlcloudWhere was it supposed to be in?04:49
wooferpartation04:49
MlcloudYour instructions were a bit vague.04:49
Mlcloudpartition.04:49
DaSkreec1I'm actually fixing a network now so I'm slightly distracted04:49
Mlcloudand you're helping two weirdos out04:49
MlcloudI can't blame you ^^04:49
DaSkreec1That's my job :)04:49
wooferubuntu is not human04:50
wooferlol04:50
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DaSkreec1woofer: maybe it's sata which is not human ;-)04:50
MlcloudI'm not sure where the network cards were supposed to be listed >.>04:50
woofermaybe04:50
Mlcloudi just flipped through everything and no list. I tried looking for something resembling a hardware manager04:50
DaSkreec1Mlcloud: there. Maybe there is some issue with the network card.04:50
DaSkreec1try google on the network card name and linux04:51
Mlcloudright.04:51
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DaSkreec1Mlcloud: You could type lshw in the konsole to see if it turned up04:51
MlcloudKonsole?04:51
Mlclouder, teminal program thingy?04:51
DaSkreec1woofer: the alternate throws up at the same point?04:51
DaSkreec1Mlcloud: yes04:51
MlcloudHeh, okay.04:52
DaSkreec1it gives a pretty verbose listing of all the hardware it recognizes04:52
Mlcloudokay.04:52
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DaSkreec1Mlcloud: Maybe you could borrow someones laptop one night and make an appointment here so someone can help you04:52
wooferrrrr back to windows04:52
DaSkreec1woofer: did you see my last question?04:52
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Mlcloudit is slightly troublesome without live support..04:53
wooferno04:53
DaSkreec1and lack of knowledge04:53
wooferin teh alt i have to select a driver04:53
wooferi have no idea which one04:53
MlcloudHeh. Ouch04:53
wooferthe*04:53
DaSkreec1what are your options?04:53
wooferthere is so many04:53
DaSkreec1Mlcloud: meant with no mailce04:53
wooferi tried all the one starting with sata04:54
DaSkreec1woofer: are they organized?04:54
DaSkreec1ah right04:54
DaSkreec1can you give me an example of the selections04:54
MlcloudI know. Ima try out lshw, and if the network card isn't recognized, Ima call it a day and go to sleep04:54
MlcloudThanks for all your help04:54
DaSkreec1Mlcloud: late where you are?04:54
woofersata-max just a ex dont know if thats a real one04:54
Mlcloudnearing 1 am04:54
DaSkreec1then get some rest :)04:54
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MlcloudLol, right after I try this.04:55
DaSkreec1woofer: who makes your drive?04:55
wooferlol i have to figure it out04:55
wooferi think its samsung04:55
wooferwestren ot maxtor04:55
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wooferi have to boot windows to see cause i am lazy to open the cpu up04:56
DaSkreec1That's three different manufacturers04:56
DaSkreec1woofer: type lshw on the konsole04:56
DaSkreec1see if it tells you04:56
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unclemike? how do i mnt a digital cam04:57
DaSkreechunclemike: It should mount as a storage device04:58
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DaSkreechLook under /media04:58
DaSkreechwoofer: Nothing?04:59
wooferno good04:59
hellbladeunclemike, mount it like a usb stick04:59
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DaSkreechwoofer: can you give me the make of the Drive again?04:59
DaSkreech it's a sata 160?04:59
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wooferstat 160gb05:00
unclemikehellblade, how do i mnt it like a usb stick05:00
hellbladeunclemike, or check in kcontrol>peripherals>digital camera05:00
DaSkreechwoofer: how long have you had it?05:00
woofer9 months05:00
hellbladeI think it's plug and play05:00
wooferits new05:00
wooferhmm its dell so05:00
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DaSkreechOh it's a Dell?05:01
wooferi dont know if they use a certin brand05:01
DaSkreechDell does strange things sometimes05:01
DaSkreechcan you search for the dell model number on the forums and sata ?05:01
DaSkreech!forums05:01
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.05:01
wooferlet me try05:01
DaSkreechI have to go now I'll try and come back alter05:01
DaSkreechlater05:02
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hellbladeunclemike, I have the follwing in /etc/fstab "/dev/sda1  /media/usb  auto  user,rw  0  0" and I mount it with 'mount /media/usb'05:03
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hellbladeunclemike, offcourse you must create /media/usb first as root (sudo mkdir /media/usb)05:05
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jerrei wish to migrate form kde to xfce..if i do so will i have to all install the packages(like jdk,g++,gcc...) again05:05
ernou don't need05:06
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hellbladejerre, no. you will only install the xfce packages plus their requirements05:06
hellblade* dependencies05:06
BluesKajOK ryanakca, beryl is in settings , but when i run it I get frozen black pages ...have to do the 3 finger salute to get back to kde05:06
Angrataf!etx305:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etx3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:06
Angrataf!ext305:06
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org05:06
ernoapt-get install xubuntu-desktop05:07
jerrehellblade:i am using an old system..will xfce make my system work faster05:07
ryanakcaubotu, please tell BluesKaj about xgl05:07
ryanakcaBluesKaj: no clue...ask in #ubuntu-xgl05:07
ernojerre: of course, as Xfce uses less memory, etc05:07
hellbladeryanakca, it depends... I think an optimized/cut-down version of KDE is faster05:08
jerreerno:thanks05:08
ryanakcahellblade: what?05:08
hellbladeoops last msg was going to jerre :)05:08
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xwolf-how do i change ttX's font settings?05:09
xwolf-ttyX i mean05:09
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dennistergood morning all05:11
dennisterhope all americans had a happy turkey-day :)05:12
ernodennister: good evening from Oslo05:12
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dennisterOslo...love all the nationalities here05:12
ernogood, I am hungarian05:13
ernofrom in Norway05:13
hellbladejerre, also have a look at this: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/05:13
Jucatoheh.. you guys are so far away :P05:13
dennisteri'm surprised there's so much english spoken around the world...but then again, it is the defacto lingua-franca of the world05:13
dennisterhey jucato :)05:14
Jucatohi dennister05:14
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dennisteron topic: still having problems writing the udev rules05:14
xwolf-how do i change ttyX's font settings? AND, what could be causing SIGSEGV in all kde programs i try to run05:14
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hyper_chanyone here very good at english?05:15
ernoxwolf: right after your in KDE?05:15
xwolf-yeap05:15
dennisterdoes anyone know how to do this properly, from scratch? i think i have to name the device first in 20-names05:15
hyper_chIs it "a Ubuntu notebook" or "an Ubuntu notebook"? I think if you pronounce Ubuntu "Jubuntu" then it's "a Ubuntu notebook", isn't it?05:16
xwolf-i start a session and every program i start crashes.05:16
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ernoxwolf-did u try to login gnome/xfce?05:16
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dennister<---is very good at english...my major at university05:16
xwolf-erno: i dont have any05:16
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xwolf-and not enough space either.05:17
dennisterhyper_ch: what do you want to know?05:17
ernoxwolf: i see...05:17
xwolf-perhaps if i can delete the packages the major upgrade downloaded05:17
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JucatoUbuntu is pronounced as "oo-boon-too"05:17
hyper_chdennister: Is it "a Ubuntu notebook" or "an Ubuntu notebook"? I think if you pronounce Ubuntu "Jubuntu" then it's "a Ubuntu notebook", isn't it?05:17
ernoxwolf: what did u do last?05:17
Jucatoso it's "an Ubuntu notebook"05:17
xwolf-erno: dapper->edgy upgrade :)05:17
dennisterjucato's right05:17
xwolf-i'm deleting the package cache.05:18
dennisterif non starts with a vowel, article is 'an'05:18
alumnohola frikis05:18
alumnoxdxxdx05:18
xwolf-i really need to edit font settings for text-mode sessions05:18
hyper_chthx dennister and Jucato05:18
xwolf-they're a mess.05:18
alumnohola frikis05:19
alumnojajaja05:19
dennisteryw hyper_ch05:19
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ernoxwolf: reinstall-xubuntu Edgy :-)05:20
dennisterback to udev rules: name the device in 20-names.rules first, right? anyone?05:20
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xwolf-erno: xubunt?05:21
xwolf-still, reinstalling is not a good option. i dont have the edgy desktop cd :P05:21
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xwolf-i probably need to reinstall kde-desktop.05:22
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xwolf-but first i NEED to change the font settings. aptitude is really messy with all those special characters as margin05:23
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ubuntuwitam05:26
ubuntujest tu ktos kto zna sie na ubuntu?05:26
xwolf-!pl05:27
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl05:27
ubuntuto forum05:27
xwolf-not pl.05:27
xwolf-:P05:27
dennisterubuntu: english pls05:27
ubuntuspeak german05:27
dennisterty xwolf05:27
dennister!gr05:28
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes05:28
dennisterand u'd better change ur nickname if ur in livecd mode05:28
xwolf-that's not german05:28
momalThis isn't kubuntu related.. well it kinda is.. but my friends pc just doesn't start up we press the power button and then no fans start up but the power light flashes.. we try press keyboard buttons move mouse but nothing :(.. power is going to the mouse and keyboard and the power button but nothing else... Can anyone suggest a channel to get help in or help me here05:28
dennisterno, it an east indian name i think05:29
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dennistereast indian lanugage i mean05:29
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dennisteror greek05:30
ubuntu_hi05:30
ubuntu_the new installer is sooo buggy05:30
xwolf-i'd say eastern european.05:30
dennisterok...i really don't pretend to know the short forms linux uses for different languages05:30
ubuntu_i want to make a root partition with xfs, and i seperatly created a boot partition in ext2 bit it shoulds05:31
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wimpiesdoes anybody know of a 5.2 php package ?05:31
ubuntu_that i have to create a boot partiton with xfs05:31
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ubuntu_what to do05:31
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dennisterwhy xfs? for the boot partition? why ot ext3?05:31
dennisterhi Dr_willis05:32
Dr_willishowdies05:32
ubuntu_for root i want to use xfs05:32
ubuntu_for boot ext2 in 64mbyte partition05:32
dennisterDr_willis: could u help me with udev rules?05:32
Dr_willisdennister,  not messed with them. read a few articals about them is all ive done.05:32
dennisterpls? pretty pls? :)05:32
dennisterok...np05:32
Dr_willisand teaked the fstab to use LABEL=whatever instead of UUID=whatever05:33
dennisterwould you be able to help me with cdrecord?05:33
ubuntu_so what to do05:33
Jucato!uuid05:33
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)05:33
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Dr_willisubuntu_,  if that dead set on it.. use the live cd/gparted/whatever to partition/format the drives how you want then tell the instller where to mount the partitions, but dont let them format the drives. (i guess)05:34
Dr_willisdennister,  whats up with cdrecord? i tend to just use k3b 99.99999999% of the time. ;)05:34
dennisteri mean i've got my fstab working with the cdrom, it was automatic, it plays, records, etc., with other programs05:35
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dennisterthe problem is that i always get an error message in regard to cdrecord when i start mythfrontend from terminal05:35
ernoxwolf: i looked arround on the Net...05:35
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ernoxwolf:05:35
ubuntu_creazy shit05:35
Dr_willisNot used MythTV in ages... it  always was a configuration nightmare05:35
ubuntu_if you naw can whatch on my screen05:36
dennistertell me about it...but i've got it 95% working...can't use other tvapps cause i've got an ivtv tuner05:36
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xwolf-erno: yes?05:37
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ubuntu_i hate it05:37
ernoxwolf: have u try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?05:37
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ubuntu_my /boot is ext2!!! and the supid installer mean it is not05:38
dennisterthis is the error message: Using NV NPOT texture extensionFailed to run 'cdrecord --scanbus'Failed to run 'cdrecord --scanbus05:38
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xwolf-erno: nope. i did try xserver-xorg but it said broken package. after i installed xserver-xorg again, i didnt dpkg-reconfigure05:39
ubuntu_shit setup!05:39
xwolf-erno: i did try *to reconfigure* xserver-xorg.05:39
momalThis isn't kubuntu related.. well it kinda is.. but my friends pc just doesn't start up we press the power button and then no fans start up but the power light flashes.. we try press keyboard buttons move mouse but nothing :(.. power is going to the mouse and keyboard and the power button but nothing else... Can anyone suggest a channel to get help in or help me here05:40
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xwolf-erno: well, i just installed kbd and the font problem is almost solved. it's workable now. my big problem now is kde's programs crashing05:40
piphello05:41
LeeJunFanmomal: no beeps or anything? try removing all the cards, ram and cpu and re-inserting.05:41
ernoxwolf:u wanna handle now?05:41
pipany good ftp server to suggest ?05:41
xwolf-erno: pardom me?05:41
dennisterhi LeeJunFan :) do u know how to write udev rules?05:41
LeeJunFandennister: I have before, but I don't know that I'd say I know how. I did once a log time ago.05:42
LeeJunFans/log/long05:42
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xwolf-erno: i didnt understand your last message05:42
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dennisterok...i'm just having real trouble with the udev documentation05:42
dennisterway over my head05:43
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ernodo u want to handle immediatelly?05:43
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xwolf-erno: handle what? font setting or kde crashes?05:43
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ernoxwolf: "my big problem now is kde's programs crashing"05:43
xwolf-right. yes, i would like to solve that.05:44
momalLeeJunFan: Tried that already.. as soon as the power cord in the back in put in the power button flashes rapidly keyboard/mouse light up and no fans start in the box no hds start of cpufan and nothing happens05:44
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xwolf-erno: my next probable step is reinstalling kde from scratch. unless you have any other ideas?05:44
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erno xwolf: let me see05:45
LeeJunFanmomal: possibly try swapping out the power supply with another machine. First you might try disconnecting everything from the mainboard except video and see if you at least get to bios (remove the sound if you can, ethernet, HD's, CD's, floppy, etc..)05:45
LeeJunFanmomal: just unplug them.05:45
erno xwolf: I would try first to make default config as the follow:05:46
xwolf-momal: quick check: CLEAR CMOS jumper.05:46
erno xwolf: make bckp files in .kde *.conf05:46
erno xwolf: then delet the original ones05:47
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erno*delete*05:47
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xwolf-you mean ~/.kde/*.conf05:47
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momalLeeJunFan: Tried removing all power cables except ones on the motherboard and still no luck.... we don't have another machine here. he is on the phone to me from his house.... what does the cmos jumper look like and what to do with it ?05:47
erno xwolf: yes05:47
xwolf-ok, in a sec.05:47
xwolf-well, .kde folder has no .conf files.05:48
erno xwolf: after start if kde does not fin config files it will make them05:48
DaSkreechmomal: #hardware05:48
erno xwolf: one sec05:48
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LeeJunFanmomal: it's different for different mainboards, it's possible the jumper should be off, just connect to one pin, for normal operation.05:48
LeeJunFanmomal: if the system has more than 1 ram stick, remove all but one, if that doesn't work remove that one and put another one in.05:49
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erno xwolf: i am looking05:49
xwolf-ok erno05:49
erno xwolf: ok, how about to make a new user and try to log that in?05:50
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xwolf-erno: good idea. adduser?05:50
fibonacciIs KUbuntu and Ubunto the exact same thing (except KDE/Gnome) ?05:50
erno xwolf: yes, we can see if it is system error or not05:50
xwolf-fibonacci: and respective programs.05:50
xwolf-erno: ok, hang on.05:50
fibonacciSo updates and releases are concurrent ?05:51
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momalLeeJunFan: Still no luck :S05:51
||arifaXHi, after a lot of playing with suspend and hibernate I miss the icon that shows the cpu-frequency in system tray. It also does not show in available panels. it was that simple symbol when mouseover showed the frquency of my dual core.05:51
LeeJunFanmomal: is the switch on back of the power supply set for correct voltage? :)05:52
pipHello,I have installed vsftp server ,but why can't I use it normally ?05:52
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pipby default ,it can be used normally05:52
momalLeeJunFan: Yup it is05:53
LeeJunFanmomal: hrm, well something seems fried, probably the power supply.05:53
xwolf-erno: well. created with adduser and then restarted kdm to login. after the configuration wizard, i tried to run konqueror and still got SIGSEGV05:54
macconlineberyl in kubuntu, i have problem, in xorg.conf....05:54
ohmbrhi, i'm from brazil an i'm having problens with my kyboard configuration... i can't configure it to ABNT2... does some body can help me?05:54
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DaSkreechfibonacci: yup05:54
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xwolf-ohmbr: tas dentro do kde? vai no kcontrol05:55
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fibonacciThats great. And how well does KUbuntu take care of KDE ? Any gliches or so ?05:55
DaSkreechfibonacci: It's near a showcase cd for KDE05:55
Jucatofibonacci: you're not looking for a "discussion" again, are you? :)05:55
ohmbrxwolf-: ok... estou la...05:55
momalLeeJunFan: Hmm... any way we can test that?05:56
fibonacciHahhaha, no no, nothing like that. Just shopping around for new distro, little bit tired of SuSE :)05:56
Jucatofibonacci: Kubuntu customizes a lot, which some hardcore KDE fans hate :)05:56
erno xwolf: i understood05:56
xwolf-ohmbr: bom, agora eh so procurar05:56
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Quinn_Stormplease get as far away from novell as you can, you'll be happier, fibonacci05:56
fibonacciLike how do you mean with customizes ? Things like ?05:56
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xwolf-erno: so it's a system problem.05:56
erno xwolf: right05:57
xwolf-fibonacci: probably like kubuntu-exclusive themes for certain programs.05:57
LeeJunFanmomal: you'd either have to swap out another PS or get a tester for power supplies.05:57
fibonaccixwolf-: aha, but couldn't I change that back to KDE standards ?05:57
DaSkreechfibonacci: The menu for one05:58
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xwolf-erno: and next logical step would be reinstallation? i really have no idea how to fix that kind of problem.05:58
Jucatofibonacci: in Edgy Eft (Kubuntu 6.10): media:/ changed to /media, hidden root folders, Konqueror Menus and Profiles05:58
xwolf-fibonacci: you probably could.05:58
DaSkreechfibonacci: Yeah just apt-get install kde instead of kubuntu-desktop05:58
DaSkreechthe system settings05:58
ohmbrxwolf-: eu ja configurei o item Regional & Acessibilidade...05:58
Jucatooh yeah, System Settings05:58
ohmbrxwolf-: mas continua na mesma..05:58
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xwolf-ohmbr: hm. 'na mesma' quer dizer teclado defaul?05:59
xwolf-*default.05:59
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fibonacciJucato: Well the root folders wouldn't be hidden to the root user presumably :)05:59
LeeJunFanmost of the customizations/bastardizations can be undone by remove kubuntu-default-settings.05:59
ernoxwolf: try that but use 'dpgk-remove'05:59
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Jucatofibonacci: oh, Kubuntu has no root user enabled by default05:59
DaSkreechJucato: it just occured to me that a lot of the Kubuntu stuff doesn't get accolades in the wider community05:59
Jucato!sudo | fibonacci05:59
ubotufibonacci: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:59
DaSkreechNot like kickoff at least05:59
ernoxwolf: on konqueror too05:59
JucatoDaSkreech: well, some are not as publicized06:00
DaSkreechGood point06:00
Jucatothe /media change did get a few accolades06:00
DaSkreechYes that is a good point06:00
Jucatohidden-root got a few rotten tomatoes :)06:00
xwolf-erno: uhm. i should remove kubuntu-desktop package with dpkg-remove, right?06:00
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LeeJunFanyeah, /media is going away in kde4 I think too - they wised up on that.06:00
LeeJunFanmedia:/ that is06:00
Jucatoxwolf-: apt-get remove06:01
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ernoxwolf: Jucato is right, sorry06:01
xwolf-i have a slight impression that removing kubuntu-desktop will just remove a dummy package...06:01
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fibonacciSorry to be chatty, but is KUbuntu very bloated (I feel SuSE is).06:02
ohmbrxwolf-: ento, no modelo do teclado coloquei ABNT2 Brasileiro... eno comando esta assim ... setxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout us,br -variant ,nodeadkeys06:02
DaSkreechfibonacci: it fits on one CD06:02
Jucatofibonacci: it fits on 1 CD06:02
Jucatolol06:02
DaSkreechlol06:02
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Jucato:P06:02
fibonacciWow, that's great (Is there an echo in here?)06:02
Jucatogreat minds think alike :)06:02
DaSkreechd:06:02
xwolf-ohmbr: ali onde tem '-layout us,br' coloca so '-layout br'06:02
fibonacciAh, this is so true.06:02
DaSkreechheehee06:03
DaSkreechWe should hang out more :)06:03
Jucatofibonacci: the problem, though, with the 1 CD thing, is that you'd need a good internet connection to get other stuff if you're not satisfied with the defaults06:03
xwolf-erno Jucato great! apt just said kubuntu-desktop is NOT installed06:03
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fibonacciAgain, sorry for asking all these questions, but I am a Java programmer, (or I would like to be :{) ) , and I am trying different DB's and Application Servers, any thoughts about KUbuntus support for these things ?06:04
ernoxwolf: coooolll...06:04
ohmbrxwolf-: ok, esta assim agoroa... setxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout br, ainda est na mesma...06:04
DaSkreech!java06:04
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:04
xwolf-ohmbr: mandaste aplicar e tudo mais?06:04
ohmbrxwolf-: todas as teclas tem acento...  ...06:04
ernoxwolf: then istall it06:04
LjL!pt | xwolf-06:04
ubotuxwolf-: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.06:04
Jucatoxwolf-: what are you trying to do btw?06:04
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DaSkreechnalioth: Hiya06:05
fibonacciOk, obviously the internet thing comes into play. But say that I only want a standard desktop (such as Kontact, a text editor, Amarok ... basics), would the one cd do this for me.06:05
ohmbrxwolf-: sim.. mandei acplicar sim.... estou em uma estao remota utilizando ltsp...06:05
xwolf-Jucato: every kde program crashes when i try to run it06:06
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xwolf-konqueror, adept, konversation, and the list keeps growing06:06
xwolf-LjL: grazzie.06:06
ohmbrxwolf-: ser que pode ser alguma configurao do ltsp?06:06
fibonacciSince all my other apps wouldn't be distributed with linux anyway (Oracle DB , J2EE containers).06:06
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Jucatofibonacci: yes. it has those apps06:06
xwolf-ohmbr: entao sinceramente nao sei cara. talvez pode ser o ltsp, talvez nao. da uma olhada com pessoal, em ingles aqui06:06
xwolf-ou la no #ubuntu-br06:06
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ohmbrxwolf-: valeu... vou tentar no canal ltsp... valeu..06:07
fibonacciFantastic. By the way, one thing I absolutely hate about SuSE is that when installing from scratch, it includes VNC and SSH packages and Services, which I never use, and I hate having all these services running and taking resources, when I never use them.06:07
DaSkreechJucato: can I pull just the man page for an application?06:07
JucatoDaSkreech: what do you mean?06:07
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DaSkreechfibonacci: Kubuntu ships with a no ports open policy06:08
norbertWhen I unplug the charger, the power manager correctly detects the change but it dims my screen brightness. I found the slider under the power manager applet and moved it to 100% just like "Mains powered" -> problem is it is still a little dimmer than w/ standard power. Suggestions?06:08
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xwolf-fibonacci: i thought you could disable them :P06:08
fibonacciDaSkreech: That's the best news I heard all day.06:08
DaSkreechWell I need to write a manual for a program i installed on a server and it would be halpful if I could have the man pag here :)06:08
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fibonaccixwolf-: I'm fully aware of that, but it bothers me anyway.06:08
xwolf-fibonacci: nah. nothing's perfect hehe06:08
DaSkreechJucato: never mind seems they have it online06:09
fibonacciIt's just that does everyone really need all those services ?06:09
fibonacciThink I will pick up a copy of KUbuntu tomorrow, I'm sold :)06:09
Quinn_Stormshipit.ubuntu.com I think06:09
xwolf-it would indeed be a better idea to leave ssh and vnc as optional06:10
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ernoxwolf: I gotta go, good luck06:10
xwolf-erno: thanks a lot06:10
Jucatoshipit only ships Dapper currently06:10
Quinn_Stormoh? not edgy?06:10
Quinn_StormI thought they just started06:10
Quinn_StormI know there were edgy discs at UDS06:10
Jucatonope06:10
ernoxwolf: your welcome, ciao06:10
Jucatossh isn't installed by default, afaik06:11
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xwolf-erno: just give Jucato a high five and he'll continue from where you stopped ;P06:11
fibonacciIs there any app for KDE that takes care of video as good as Amarok does music ?06:11
xwolf-Jucato: in suse, he says.06:11
Quinn_Stormah I see, odd...06:11
Jucatoxwolf-: lol, I'm about to go to sleep in a few :)06:11
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fibonaccibtw, Could I install Ubuntu, and then dl KDE and install ?06:11
JucatoQuinn_Storm: it's because Dapper isLTS, and they don't want to ship 2 releases. so Dapper gets a higher priority. that's afaik06:11
xwolf-it's 14:15 here. no sleeping for some hours.06:12
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Jucatofibonacci: yes, but that would be troublesome06:12
Quinn_Stormalso edgy is intended to be more...broken out of the box than dapper06:12
fibonacciJucato: Enough said :{)06:12
Jucatoxwolf-: it's 1:00 AM here :)06:12
xwolf-wow.06:12
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xwolf-where are you from? russia?06:12
Jucatolol. further east06:12
fibonacciI've got 04:13 am here :)06:13
mirshafiefibonacci: it's better to get kubuntu directly, but you can get ubuntu and then install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage (and uninstall ubuntu-desktop)06:13
sirmis7.13 pm here :D06:13
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xwolf-and i thought gmt-3 was already far enough...06:13
Jucatofibonacci: nz or au?06:13
fibonacciau :)06:13
Jucatohah! :)06:13
fibonaccinz ?06:13
dr0fnaxwhere can I change font size in beryl?06:13
Jucatodang! I had sydney on my clock aftera ll06:13
Jucatofibonacci: new zealand06:13
xwolf-of course! that's almost 12 hours. stupid me06:14
sirmisbrb06:14
fibonacciJucato: I know, I was wondering if you were from nz :)06:14
Jucatoah no :)06:14
xwolf-who guessed russia btw? ><06:14
Jucatoph :)06:14
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fibonacciIs there any app for KDE that takes care of video as good as Amarok does music ?06:15
fannagogannakaffeine is the best06:15
JucatoKaffeine?06:15
fannagogannabut it's nowhere near as good for video as amarok is for music :)06:15
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xwolf-true.06:15
Quinn_StormI like kmplayer06:16
Quinn_Stormkaffeine is crashy IMHO06:16
fannagogannabut then again, in my opinion amarok is years ahead of the competition06:16
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Jucatobut it's enough for my needs... except for that occasional .mkv file that I couldn't play06:16
fibonaccihmmm... yeah I have fooled around a bit with Kaffeine, but Its not really as great as Amarok. By the way, what do I need to install to get Kaffeine to play iso's and img files ?06:16
Quinn_StormamaroK is just perfect06:16
fannagogannaANY competition06:16
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Quinn_StormI used to be an iTunes fan back when it came out...amaroK is just so much better06:16
JucatoQuinn_Storm: they started spelling it as Amarok a while back :)06:16
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Quinn_StormI'll always call it amaroK06:17
JucatoQuinn_Storm: yeah, it looks better  :)06:17
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JucatoI'm one of the krazy ones who likes the K's06:17
fibonaccikmplayer aint to shabby, but I wish it did integrate in Konqueror better, then It would be really great.06:17
xwolf-damn kde06:18
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fibonacciAnd it does really impress the ladies when I start up an avi from a terminal window, and all those numbers come flasshing!06:18
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xwolf-and i did say removing kubuntu-desktop would just be a dummy package deleting..06:18
xwolf-41kbytes is what i'm gonna get.06:18
norbert*bump* on the dimness question? Found a /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/powermanage.py -> but would prefer not to change the default values (not even sure if it would fix it)06:19
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fibonacciIs there anyway of getting Fallout Tactics to run under Linux, I bloddy love that game.06:20
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xwolf-cedega? winex?06:20
fibonaccibloody..06:20
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fibonacciI've never tried any of those MS simulators, do they really work ?06:21
blackflagwhich command can I use to find out which version of linux I have?06:21
fibonaccikernel -version06:21
xwolf-i managed to install jedi academy a few months ago06:21
xwolf-it worked peachy, yeah.06:21
Jucatoblackflag: what do you mean? kernel version? Ubuntu version? kde version?06:21
blackflagno generally linux06:21
xwolf-uname -r?06:21
Jucato"uname -r" - kernel version; "lsb_release -a" - Ubuntu version;06:21
fibonacciblackflag: kernerlversion06:22
Jucatoblackflag: there is no "generally linux" version06:22
blackflagyou are new at the firm and you have to find out which kind of linux you have06:22
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xwolf-well, gotta go06:22
Jucatoyou either mean the Linux kernel or the distribution's version06:22
xwolf-cya everybody.06:22
DaSkreechnorbert: You want the screen to not dim?06:22
Jucatobye xwolf-06:22
fibonaccicya xwolf-06:22
norbertDaSkreech: yes06:22
blackflagsomthinglike Im kubuntu 6.10 or sles 10.206:22
Jucatoblackflag: that's the distribution's version06:23
Jucato"lsb_release -a"06:23
Jucatotype that in Konsole06:23
blackflagahh, soory correct ;)06:23
norbertDaSkreech: in the applet, I moved both sliders to 100%, but it is still dimmer on battery than main06:23
DaSkreechHmm not sure06:23
DaSkreech!powermanger06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about powermanger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
DaSkreech!power06:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:23
fibonacciHow cool is Yakuake ?06:23
Jucatook, time for me to hit the sack...06:23
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Jucatoit's kool06:23
Jucatovery kool06:24
fibonaccihaha06:24
fibonaccikool, your such a sucker...06:24
DaSkreechIt's sukka06:24
blackflagthanks!!! :)06:24
DaSkreechJucato: isn't there a factoid for guidance ?06:24
Jucatowhat about guidance?06:24
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vikasi finally got it installed06:25
DaSkreechdoes ubotu have a factiod for it?06:25
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Jucato!kde-guidance06:25
DaSkreechnorbert: needs some help06:25
ubotukde-guidance: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 952 kB, installed size 3812 kB06:25
Jucatothat one?06:25
DaSkreechThe power manger?06:26
Jucato!kde-guidance-powermanager06:26
ubotukde-guidance-powermanager: HAL based Power Manager Applet. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 96 kB, installed size 308 kB06:26
Jucatono other factoid that I know of06:26
DaSkreechnorbert wants the screen to stay as bright when plugged in as when on battery06:27
DaSkreechcan it do that?06:27
LjL!kde-guidance06:27
ubotukde-guidance: collection of KDE system administration tools for GNU/Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 0.7.0-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 952 kB, installed size 3812 kB06:27
LjLneither is a factoid anyway ;)06:27
Jucatooh well :)06:27
norbertfound this - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuPowerManagementFeedback - but nothing about dimness problems06:27
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LeeJunFannorbert: you have to edit the file in /etc/powersave, but if it's handled by your BIOS I think you're SOL.06:28
fibonacciI just had a look at kubutus website. They say that I can get the same effect if I install Ubuntu and then KDE, is that really the entire truth?06:28
mc__fibonacci: it is06:28
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Jucatofibonacci: didn't you ask that already :)06:28
Jucatofibonacci: except that it's more troublesome because you download stuff again, and you have 2x the apps06:28
LeeJunFannorbert: on my sager there's nothing I can do becasuse even if I'm sitting at grub screen and unplug my screen dims, ie. it's handled by the bios.06:28
Jucatoanyway, need to sleep now.... good night!!! :)06:29
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norbertLeeJunFan: no, pretty sure its not a bios thing - previous setups were fine06:29
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norbertLeeJunFan: I don't have an /etc/powersave06:30
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norbertjust /etc/power event.d/   scripts.d/  (not much mention about screen dimness)06:31
lozhello06:32
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lozcan anyone tell me how to kill tmy cd rom ?06:32
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LeeJunFannorbert: ah, I've got powersaved installed, and use kpowersave, many more features.06:32
DaSkreechfibonacci: If you have the alternate install you can do a server install and then install kubuntu and you don't get the 2x apps06:32
DaSkreechloz: With a candlestick in the library06:33
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CPUFreak91Hi. I'm trying to get the ati drivers working for my Radeon 9600XT but fglrxinfo tells me I'm using Mesa drivers06:33
norbertLeeJunFan: ah. what is this default app called? I have no problem removing it for kpowersave06:33
LeeJunFannorbert: then you can edit /etc/powersave/scheme_powersave and set the screen dim with DISPLAY_BRIGHTNESS="med"06:33
CPUFreak91I've followed all the trouble shooting instructions on the Ubuntu ATI binary drivers wiki page06:33
jarekCPUFreak91 check xorg.conf06:33
CPUFreak91but nothing helps06:33
lozi ve tried burning a dvd, and my dvd drive wont respond, and i  having a spass atack, anybody, pleqse?06:33
LeeJunFannorbert: I think if you installed kpowersaved it will remove the old one.06:34
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norbertLeeJunFan: ok, will try that. thanks :)06:34
h3sp4wnkpowersave is just a front end to powersave06:34
h3sp4wn!kpowersave06:34
ubotukpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3216 kB, installed size 4984 kB06:34
CPUFreak91jarek: check what? I ran aticonfig (as instructed on the wiki).06:34
LeeJunFannorbert: yeah, it's kpowersave not kpowersaved, sry06:35
lozDaSkreech, i ve tried the candle, but to no avail, any comand line handy like killall-9 dev, or something in that manner?06:35
jarekcheck if you have the right modules loaded06:35
lozi can t stop it06:35
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lozit wont eject06:36
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deviatioco je to za irc?06:37
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Amigotest06:37
LjLAmigo: successfull06:37
fibonaccitesting... :)06:37
AmigoHi ppl! I just now install KU!06:38
fibonacciWOOOHOOO !06:38
AmigoIt's .... It's.... COOOLL :)06:38
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fibonacciNo, its KOOOL.06:39
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AmigoShe (he) install to my PC without any problem!!!06:39
AmigoEhheaaa KOOL :)06:40
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fibonacciWell that's great.06:40
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fibonacciDoes KUbuntu install with i386, i586,i686 Kernel as default ?06:41
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celer330dw32codec's06:42
AmigoI receive KU 6.06 with i386 & x86_64. But I install i386 :)06:42
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AmigoNow I update localization.06:43
Amigow32codec's? I have all music and home video in ogg format :)06:44
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norbertLeeJunFan: hmm; guess I will go check the bios, just in case..06:46
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icheynefibonacci, there is a generic kernel06:49
icheyne!generic | fibonacci06:50
ubotufibonacci: Background to the decision to replace -386, -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html06:50
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Xubuntianhello, do you know any way of getting notifications about dmesg new messages in a notification-popup automatically?06:55
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Xubuntiandisplayed*06:55
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DaSkreechdcop maybe?06:58
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XubuntianDaSkreech: how?06:59
Xubuntiandcop afaik works only on active processes that support dcop06:59
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DaSkreechHmm good point07:00
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h3sp4wnJust setup syslog to log to a console07:00
DaSkreechXubuntian: Though you could write a simple process that monitors teh dmesg log and sends a dbus signal07:00
Xubuntiana dbus signal to what?07:01
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guidenWhat's the command to list every channel in the ubuntu irc server?07:01
h3sp4wnuse xconsole07:01
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h3sp4wn!xconsole07:01
ubotuxconsole: X client - xconsole. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 80 kB07:01
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guiden!cedega07:02
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega07:02
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eilker!mount07:02
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks07:02
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DaSkreechguiden: try /list07:02
dragonfly7 Hey anyone: Does it make sense that a video played in full screen uses the graphics card, but if it is played in a window it does not?07:03
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sirmiskopete sucks .. :S07:05
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sirmisbut no can do07:05
will_hi07:06
will_can someone help please?07:07
dragonfly7Anyone at all: Does it make sense that a video played in full screen uses the graphics card, but if it is played in a window it does not? Nobody knows? The problem is that if I use my graphics card, it overheats and crashes the computer. If I uninstalled the drivers would I be able to watch videos full screen?07:07
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dragonfly7will_: What do you need?07:07
sirmisdragonfly7: seems that opengl works fine :)07:08
will_how do you install a program that is a source codes?07:08
sirmis./configure && make && make install07:08
sirmisman apt-get07:09
will_i will try that, thank you07:09
dragonfly7sirmis: But OpenGL does not work for me, since my graphics card overheats. Do you know how I can stop the computer from using the nvidia drivers? Can I just edit something in xorg.conf?07:09
DaSkreechwill_: Which program?07:10
will_it is a program called zsnes07:10
DaSkreech!zsnes07:11
ubotuzsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)07:11
DaSkreechwill_: You can apt-get it07:11
sirmisdragonfly7: man xorg07:11
will_apt-get?07:11
DaSkreech!apt > will07:11
DaSkreech!apt > will_07:11
DaSkreech!adept > will_07:12
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will_thanks07:13
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sirmisHOWTO: Latest NVIDIA drivers - Ubuntu Forums07:14
sirmishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507407:14
guidenDoes anyone use direct connect? If so, which is the best klient written in qt?07:14
sirmisthat may solve your problems07:14
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guiden!dc07:14
ubotudc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB07:14
will_do you need firewalls and virus stuff?07:14
sirmisbut that's just wui07:14
sirmiswrong window .. sorry07:15
tony_can someone tell me exactly how to install packages off the DVD, it's wanting to download them?07:15
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tony_anyone?07:15
sirmistony_: packages off the dvd ??07:17
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Voker57hi ppl07:17
tony_yes07:18
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tony_nevermind, i assume i just edit the sources.list right?07:18
h3sp4wntony_: apt-cdrom07:18
tony_ok, thanks, i'll try it07:18
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Voker57what are .run files? Can i launch them under kubuntu?07:18
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h3sp4wntony_: Or if you want you can copy them all to disk07:18
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h3sp4wnand use a file:// stanza in sources.list07:19
mc__Voker57: probably07:19
tony_how? it keeps saying it requires an argument07:19
Voker57And are rpm's for Red Hat?07:19
h3sp4wncopy all the deb's off the disk into a director07:20
mc__Voker57: nope07:20
Voker57mc__: so can i run them?07:20
mc__Voker57: ubuntu uses *debs07:20
h3sp4wndpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null|gzip -9>Packages.gz07:20
mc__Voker57: you cant run debs nor you can run rpms on redhat07:20
mc__Voker57: that are packages you can install them07:20
tony_nevermind, just apt-cdrom add is all i had to do07:20
mc__Voker57: a *run file is most often some script you can run on any distro07:21
Voker57mc__: so what are install packages for kununtu?07:21
Voker57oh good07:21
mc__Voker57: *deb07:21
Voker57And *.run too?07:21
mc__Voker57: no *.run is simply a programm07:21
Voker57eh07:21
mc__Voker57: not a package07:21
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Voker57The thing is, i see *.rpm *.tar.gz *.run on FTP. Which of them can be installed on ubuntu?07:22
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tony_so if i use the dvd for repositories, will it automatically try to use the dvd instead of download what's already on there?07:22
sirmistar.gz07:22
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Voker57sirmis: and no *.run?07:23
sirmisand .run07:23
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Voker57good07:23
santahow to join another room?07:23
sirmisthere's plenty of good howto's07:23
Voker57so if i download *.run or *.tar.gz can i be sure that it will work?07:24
Voker57sirmis: where?07:24
sirmiswww.google.com07:24
Voker57brilliant07:24
dragonfly7Ok, in xorg, if I change "driver "nvidia"" to "driver"nv"" would that mean that the PC was not using the graphics card anymore?07:24
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h3sp4wnIf you don't want to use the graphics card just don't use X at all - use a vga terminal07:25
sirmis:D07:25
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: I want to use a GUI, but my graphics card crashes the PC when playing a DVD full screen. Not cool. So I was trying to figure out a way that I could watch a DVD full screen without using the graphics card. I am pretty open to whatever beyond that.07:26
sirmisdragonfly7: your craphics card is ??07:26
h3sp4wndragonfly7: Does it crash if you use mplayer with the directfb driver (in  a  console)07:26
guidenI have found a small bug on kde07:26
thompaanyone know how to get cedega to work in kubuntu, it shows the game folders but not installing07:27
dragonfly7sirmis: A faulty GeForce440 Go (laptop)07:27
thompaits not opening the cds i think07:27
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: I have no clue. I can figure that out if you walk me through it.07:27
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h3sp4wndragonfly7: Are you using nvidia-legacy ?07:28
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Yes, I am using the legacy drivers. I can show you the page I followed to install them if you want.07:28
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h3sp4wndragonfly7: Is it impossible for you to use the other ones ?07:28
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sirmisdragonfly7: there's plenty of howto's available in net .. try googling around07:29
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Yes, it is, and I believe the problem is a hardware one, not software, since it did it in XP also. I just need to disable the card.'07:29
sirmisdragonfly7: there's beta driver for your GBU available07:29
sirmisp07:29
sirmisGPU07:30
h3sp4wndragonfly7: Tried installing a new bios ?07:30
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h3sp4wndragonfly7: (graphics card bios)07:30
dragonfly7sirmis: I'm sorry, I don't understand.07:30
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: No, I have not. That sounds very challenging.07:30
TheAnyone feel like helping poor little me?07:30
dragonfly7The: With what?07:30
TheScreen resolution.07:30
h3sp4wndragonfly7: Not really you just have to follow the instructions exactly07:30
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dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Would I have to reinstall Kubuntu then?07:31
sirmisdragonfly7: google: nvidia Geforce 440 go kubuntu07:31
dragonfly7The: What about it?07:31
TheI need to change it to a screen resolution that isn't listed.07:31
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dragonfly7sirmis: "07:32
dragonfly7Your search - nvidia gefore440 go kubuntu - did not match any document" No luck with that. :(07:32
h3sp4wndragonfly7: You have to install it from dos usually07:32
sirmishttp://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=nvidia+Geforce+440+go+kubuntu&spell=107:32
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MorrisseyHi! I have a ATI Radeon 9000 with fglrx drivers. When I am not running Xgl, I get everything ok from "fglrxinfo" and "glxgears" and DRI is enabled ... but when I log into my xgl verything is very slow, I can see no effects and I get from "glxgears": "Xbfree86-DRI missing on display 1:0" :( Any ideas?07:32
h3sp4wndragonfly7: You can usually find a bootable floppy which you can just write to a cd and boot from (if one exists)07:32
TheDragonfly7: I need to change it to a screen resolution that isn't listed.07:32
sirmisbbl07:33
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h3sp4wnMorrissey: No reason to use fglrx with ati < 925007:33
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dragonfly7h3sp4wn: If I had to reinstall, I could just not install the nVidia driver. What if I just change my xorg somehow?07:33
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, oh, really? Ive heard that some made it work07:33
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, all I really want is that damn cube :)07:33
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Morrisseynone of the fancy smancy window jumping or whatever :)07:33
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h3sp4wnxserver-xorg-video-ati supports ati <9250 almost flawlessly07:34
TheDragonfly7: I need to change it to a screen resolution that isn't listed.07:34
voker57heeelp! After changing a display my picture is split!07:34
voker57How can i fix it?07:34
h3sp4wndragonfly7: You could just purge nvidia-legacy07:34
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Good idea. How would I go about doing that?07:35
TheI need to change it to a screen resolution that isn't listed. How do I get 1280 x 800?07:35
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, what do you mean?07:35
voker57everything that is in upper part is mirrored in lower one07:35
h3sp4wndragonfly7: aptitude search nvidia~nlegacy07:36
voker57what is konsole command to get into display properties?07:36
h3sp4wndragonfly7: Findout the exact name and then aptitude purge <foo>07:36
h3sp4wn(with sudo)07:36
thompai am gerting "no medium" found on my cdrom drive07:37
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thompasometimes if i open and close it i can see contents07:37
voker57heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp07:37
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Ok, I have nvidia-glx-legacy, nvidia-glx-legacy-de, and nvidia-glx-legacy-kernal07:37
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Thehelp someone?07:37
thompaunablt o mount "no medium found"07:37
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dragonfly7The: Try changing your resolution to that in xorg.conf. Do you know how to do that?07:38
h3sp4wndragonfly7: sudo aptitude purge nvidia~nlegacy~i07:38
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dragonfly7h3sp4wn: I hope this works...07:39
h3sp4wnMorrissey: Just use the free drivers and you will still have 3d07:39
voker57heeelp! After changing a display my picture is split!07:39
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, how do I do that? :) Sorry for n00b qs07:39
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dragonfly7voker57: Change it back!07:39
h3sp4wndragonfly7: then just change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:39
h3sp4wnMorrissey: Did you install fglrx from the repos ?07:39
voker57dragonfly: cannot. It's broken07:39
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, yes, edgy had the fglrx allready07:40
dragonfly7voker57: What is broken?07:40
voker57My display is, dragonfly07:40
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h3sp4wnMorrissey: Afaik ati dropped support for 9250 and below from fglrx recently anyway (maybe after that though)07:40
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h3sp4wnMorrissey: aptitude purge fglrx~i07:40
voker57I bought a new one and Linux looks spooky on it07:40
voker57everything that is in upper part is mirrored in lower one07:41
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, dont have apitude07:41
voker57Thus not allowing me to access Kmenu07:41
h3sp4wnMorrissey: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/fglrx/radeon/i' /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:41
dragonfly7voker57: Ok, hit ctrl+alt+F1, then "sudo su", then "cd /etc/X11" then "nano xorg.conf" then find the resolution section and change it back.07:41
h3sp4wn!aptitude07:41
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide07:41
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h3sp4wn!info aptitude07:41
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Morrisseyok h3sp4wn I have done the perl thingy .. should I restart, and try again?07:42
intelikeyvoker57 doesnt know about consoles07:42
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Morrisseyh3sp4wn, cant find the apitude package :)07:43
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Ok, I think that it is "unable to lock the administrative directory", and that it thinks something else is using it. Should I do this without booting to a GUI?07:43
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dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Would the information in this work: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy#HOW_TO_UNINSTALL_THE_DRIVER_.28FROM_METHOD_2.2907:45
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dragonfly7h3sp4wn: Never mind, I don't have a backup. I am going to try something in xorg, I will hopefull be back soon.07:46
Morrisseyh3sp4wn, I think its strange, because I have the fglrx up and running and all ... glxgears when not running XGl works like a charm07:47
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Morrisseyh3sp4wn, I dont have composite07:48
eilkeri have very interesting thing.../home/xyz/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/   i have 8 backup folders, and /home/xyz/backup/ is 13,7 gb ...any idea?? i am gonna delete backup folder for gaining 13,7 gb, will there be any problem for system ?07:48
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intelikeyif everything is working correctly then everyghing is working correctly.  but if something is not working correctly then something is not working correctly, even though it may be something that you think is working correctly... take windows for example !07:50
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Morrisseythanks for the info intelikey  :)07:50
oemhello07:51
dragonfly7h3sp4wn: OK, the good news is I am not using my graphics card. The bad news is that I am now panning with my mouse to view the whole screen.07:51
intelikeylaugh if you must !07:51
eilkerintelikey:hi friend, heyy see this, i am totaly confused,  i have very interesting thing.../home/xyz/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/backup/   i have 8 backup folders, and /home/xyz/backup/ is 13,7 gb ...any idea?? i am gonna delete backup folder for gaining 13,7 gb, will there be any problem for system ?07:52
oemAnybody who have a working twinhan 7045 in kubuntu07:52
intelikeyeilker no problem.07:52
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eilkerintelikey: how was it happened? are there any schedule etc? do u have any idea ?  and i am deleting it now...07:54
oemNgon som snackar svenska hr???07:54
intelikeyeilker i have no idea how you did that.   probably playing with some "backup" tool/app  ?07:55
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intelikeyscript maybe.07:55
HAMMERhi there i would realy like some help concerning the xgl 3d desktop setup can any one help07:56
eilkerintelikey: yes i did sth when i firstly installed kubuntu, just for practising:D07:56
oemdoes xgl 3d works in kubuntu???07:57
intelikeyeilker there you go !   and now you know !07:57
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HAMMERI have seen it work in you tube should be able to work07:57
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HAMMERit works sweet in youtube I must have07:57
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HAMMERhaving some small problims tho like where to find a decent how to i have looked at a few but yeah07:58
intelikeyoem some say it does.07:58
eilkerintelikey: thanx man...07:58
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HAMMERok so no one here knows how07:58
HAMMERalright07:59
intelikey!xgl07:59
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:59
oemok thanx intelikey07:59
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intelikeyHAMMER helps if you ask a specific question.07:59
HAMMERok how specific you whant me to be08:00
intelikeynp @ oem & eilker08:00
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HAMMERi need help installing xgl please help with a usefull up to date how to or if you know how please say so08:00
eilkerhammer: what video card?08:01
eilkerhammer: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL08:01
intelikey!ati08:02
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:02
eilkerhammer: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX08:02
HAMMERok the drivers and all that is installed and ny hardware is xgl ready08:02
eilkerhammer: so , check the link pls08:03
HAMMERaccel is on and ready to go the beryl repositories are realy the only problim08:03
HAMMERwill do thanks08:03
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eilkerhammer: you could check your video card's performance(with xgl), from gentoo wiki08:04
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dragonfly7Ok, if I change "driver "nvidia"" to "driver"nv"" in xorg, how do I prevent my resolution from switching to 800*600 ?08:09
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guidenI can't find the kde configuration thing that i'm used to08:10
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guidenI want to change my theme08:11
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dragonfly7Ok, if I change "driver "nvidia"" to "driver"nv"" in xorg, how do I prevent my resolution from switching to 800*600 ?08:11
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intelikeyguiden one can [alt] +[f2]  type kcontrol     i dont have edgy so i can't give you a presise menu map.08:12
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DankerHi08:13
DankerWhat font is used in http://www.kubuntu.org/images/kde4.png08:13
Danker?08:13
guidenOk thanks08:13
intelikeydragonfly7 set it to 640x480 ?   :)08:13
dragonfly7intelikey: :) I was hoping to use 1600*1200, but without using the nvidia driver.08:14
intelikeydragonfly7 nv driver should do 1280x* with out problems   it does here.08:14
slow-motionhallo08:15
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BluDog_Anchoriteit's been so long since i tried, i forgot.  what's a recomended app for backing up dvd's ?08:15
intelikeyi don't know about the 1600x* never got that to work on nv  but figured it may be my monitor08:15
dragonfly7It was originally, before I installed the nvidia drivers. I just need to figure out how to make it again. Would you look at my xorg if I pastebined it?08:15
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intelikeydragonfly7 look in /etc/X11 and see if there is a backup of the xorg.conf*  restore it...08:16
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dragonfly7I have some very old backups, I will look at them.08:16
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h3sp4wnOr just start with a very minimal xorg.conf (much tidyer than the dpkg-reconfigure one) by running X -configure08:17
dragonfly7The problem is, I have made changes I want to keep, such as enabling monitor rotaion.08:17
intelikeyBluDog_Anchorite dd to make an iso.  k3b should burn them to disk if that's the Q08:18
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BluDog_Anchoriteintelikey: no, for backing up my video dvd's08:18
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intelikeydd should make an iso of them.08:18
intelikey?08:19
intelikeybacking or hacking  that is the question....08:19
h3sp4wnBreaking the encryption is legally questionable (for those in the US at least not for me I don't think)08:20
dragonfly7Ok, anyone who is helping me, this is the relevant section of my xorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33721/08:21
dragonfly7I need to make my resolution not 800*600 pan and scan, or whatever it is called.08:21
h3sp4wnback it up run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg - remerge the changes08:22
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intelikeyline 26   remove08:22
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dragonfly7intelikey: You talking to me? If so, I will try it.08:23
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intelikeyline 20   we need the section refered too08:24
dragonfly7intelikey: Refered? What do you mean by that?08:24
BluesKajis there a small dvd erase utility for kubuntu , k3b reformats ...just need to overwrite with random data08:24
intelikey 20.   Identifier "Default Screen"08:24
dragonfly7intelikey: Change it to? Or remove it?08:25
intelikeyno paste the section "Default Screen"08:25
intelikeys/no/no,/08:25
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guidenHAHA I know how to become root permanently, I typed "sudo su" :)08:26
user__uihui08:26
h3sp4wnguiden: why not sudo -i ?08:26
h3sp4wnguiden: or at least sudo su -08:27
intelikeydragonfly7 you don't have anyother screen* section in that config ?08:27
guidenhehe well08:27
dragonfly7intelikey: Just a second, I will pastebin the whole thing.08:27
guidenI thought it was impossible :)08:27
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guidenWell I guess its not that windows nazi restricted :p08:28
dragonfly7intelikey: Ok, that is the whole thing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33725/08:28
h3sp4wnNothing is impossible but the tendancy to assume people are stupid worries me08:28
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intelikeyguiden not at all   sudo -i    is for that.  but if you use sudo su  you should add -    sudo su -  so you use root env also08:28
bxnphi everybody08:28
h3sp4wn(hiding files by default also08:28
guidenaha ok08:29
Chris_Swift_KubuHey, I got a prob with detecting my Hard Disk. I have partitioned it in GParted. Cannot find the directory if the drive I have checked media folder though08:29
bxnpis it possible to create an icon on the kde desktop for an application in such way that the application is running with a different nice value08:29
HomerHi, will DNF run on Kubuntu?08:29
intelikeyguiden one can enable root login also if they wish.08:30
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dragonfly7intelikey: Did you see the new pastebin? ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33725/ )08:30
intelikeydragonfly7 yes looking...08:30
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h3sp4wnWhat is the equivalent of hdparm for configuring disks that are using the libata (pata) drivers08:31
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intelikeydragonfly7 i have to agree with h3sp4wn on that  regenerate the config and edit a clean one.    that one you pasted is WAC08:32
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marcelloDoItBeTthello08:33
marcelloDoItBeTti need a help...08:33
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h3sp4wnX -configure generates the cleanest ones (non of that wacom stuff very few people use)08:33
mickeFirst time @ irc... this is for kubuntu users i guess!? :) Well... i use ubuntu... i tried kubuntu becouse i like KDE alot. But after testing ubuntu im in "love" :)08:33
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dragonfly7intelikey: Ok, how would I do that? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" ?08:33
mickeIs there a ubuntu "place"!?08:33
h3sp4wn#ubuntu (but it scrolls too fast to be very useful)08:34
mickeHi btw! :)08:34
dragonfly7micke: South Africa?08:34
mickeNope... Sweden...08:34
marcelloDoItBeTtwhat does " you speak when you spoken too" mean??08:34
micke"europe"08:34
intelikeydragonfly7 the reason that config is worthless imo  is because you have redundant entries that arent used and one modline defined   modeline  "640x480@60"         yes ^ that but i sujest -plow rather than -phigh08:34
h3sp4wnmicke: Maybe you can find a lower volume ubuntu specific channel somewhere08:34
dragonfly7micke: I mean, that is the place of ubuntu kind of.08:34
dragonfly7intelikey: i  will try that now.08:34
mickeok08:35
dragonfly7Good luck to me.08:35
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intelikeytre bon chance08:35
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mickeSo, you talk linux all day here. Sounds nice...08:35
h3sp4wnI think ubuntu has changed the default debconf settings in debian -plow is implied if dpkg-reconfigure is run but not in ubuntu08:35
fdovingh3sp4wn: i think hdparm is what should be used. the capabilities are in hdparm, libata has been the holdup.08:35
intelikeymicke actually they talk linux all day in ##linux   we talk  *buntu linux here all day08:36
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h3sp4wnfdoving: Everything fails though switching dma on etc - I just need to list what the capabilities are like08:36
Tharhi08:36
mickeintelikey, ok, sorry then :P08:36
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h3sp4wnfdoving: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device08:37
dragonfly7micke: If you find any interesting IRC channels, let me know. I  haven't really found anything social.08:37
Tharcould it be any reason, why the same fonts from the same repo acts different under Gnome and KDE? :>08:38
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bxnpi guess 325 dont know the answer for this one : is it possible to create an icon on the kde desktop for an application in such way that the application is running with a different nice value08:38
bxnpand then then they say that linux is not hard to learn08:39
mickedragonfly7, ok... ill will.08:39
intelikeyThar yes08:39
h3sp4wnfdoving: It may actually be on but I can't find anything in /sys to imply that it is08:39
intelikeybxnp yes it is.08:39
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dragonfly7intelikey or h3sp4wn: i ran that, and it seemed to work, but my xorg doesn't look any different. Should I restart the X server?08:40
h3sp4wnpersonally I would run that out of X08:40
bxnpwhat intelikey linux is hard to learn or yes is the answer to my question08:40
h3sp4wn(with X stopped)08:40
h3sp4wnbxnp: If you can read you will have few problems08:41
intelikeyyes to your Q bxnp08:41
intelikeyman nice       nice [OPTION]  [COMMAND [ARG] ...] 08:41
h3sp4wnbxnp: Read a generic book like UNIX a nutshell08:41
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bxnpyes i know the syntax of the nice command08:41
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bxnpi know that you cant nice as a user lower than the value zero08:41
bxnpbut thats is what i want08:42
intelikeyso edit the launcher   duh08:42
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bxnpand i want an icon on the desktop so that i dont have to renice the app while its running08:42
h3sp4wnStart it by a script08:42
bxnpi am an user not a programmer08:42
fdovingh3sp4wn: i don't have anything to test taht on right now. i think there are some big improvements in 2.6.18-19 or something around there. don't remember.08:42
intelikey!sudo | bxnp08:43
ubotubxnp: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:43
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BluDog_Anchoriteso, are there any plans to build 2.6.18 for dapper ?08:43
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h3sp4wnfdoving: I am on 2.6.19 (It might just be on anyway but just not reporting anything) I certainly haven't seen any massive speed decreast08:43
bxnpi know that intelikey i read the docs about it, if i figured it out i would not ask ovehere for an answer08:43
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TharI've installed Kubuntu with polish language choosed during the installation, and have changed the keymap to polish, but still it seems like most of the fonts just don't have certain letter while typing sth in adress box (firefox), or in konversation, or in abiword... strange, because on Ubuntu everything was normal08:44
h3sp4wnbxnp: being able to write simple scripts I would say is important for any user to understand UNIX to use it most effectively08:44
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intelikeybxnp ok.   something like     your.app -withargs & sudo nice -99 your.app    on the line of the launcher that executes your.app  ???08:45
intelikeytranslate  your.app -withargs08:45
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intelikeyand don't use -99   :)08:46
bxnpoke let me check08:47
bxnpif ti works08:47
h3sp4wnprobably need NOPASSWD for sudo08:47
intelikeyh3sp4wn yeah or kdesu would be better08:47
intelikeyi was actually generalizing08:48
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kanakHello08:49
h3sp4wndepends whether its a console app or not08:49
h3sp4wnit could be seti at home or something that runs in the background anyway08:49
kanakHow can I access Windows file thats on a different hard drive on kubuntu08:49
kanak How can I access Windows file thats on a different hard drive on kubuntu08:49
kanakcan somene help me?08:49
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intelikey!ntfs08:51
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse08:51
kanakhow do i dl that?08:51
Tharhm, guess no one is interested... oh well08:51
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kanakhow do i get !ntfs?08:51
bxnpintelikey, your sugestion does not work08:52
Thargoodbye08:52
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h3sp4wn!doesnotwork08:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesnotwork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
intelikeybxnp kdesu08:52
h3sp4wn!does not work08:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about does not work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
bxnpfor example: blender -w & sudo nice -4 blender does not run blender with an nice value of -408:52
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intelikey!work08:52
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.08:52
scheurihi all...I have an odd problem with my USB-mass-storage devices lately...from one day to another I can not access them anymore...I plut them in and the usual window pops up if I want an extra konquerer window....but after choosing this nothing happens...the device is mounted but not accessible with my normal user08:53
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intelikeybxnp you said you knew all about nice and sudo  so i assumed you knew....  " blender -w & dkesu nice -4 blender "  <-- that should be parsable08:54
bxnplisten i use linux for 4 weeks now08:54
BluesKajwhat's the commandline expression for erasing a dvd+rw ?08:54
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weedar_Somehow all my fonts in Konversation, Skype, etc. are TINY, even though I've set them to be bigger in the control center08:55
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weedar_Any ideas what I can do?08:56
guidenevery program that I have has a K in it's name, why?08:56
BluesKajrelated to the KDE desktop08:57
weedar_guiden: Its a "tradition" to name KDE applications with a K first08:57
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guidenOk08:57
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intelikeyguiden ERROR    ls /bin /sbin /usr/bin /usr/sbin | grep -ve k     look at all that programs you have that dont have k08:57
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DaSkreechsomeone maintain seamonkey!08:58
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intelikey!i08:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:58
swamihello averyone08:59
DaSkreech!myself08:59
weedar_So nobody knows how I can increase fonts? :)08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
guidenintelikey: that's alot! will I ever need every single one of them? :p08:59
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swamiany one who has a ati here on this chanell09:00
swamicause i have a question09:00
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mslswami: I have an 850009:00
guidenis there a dc client that has a K in its name?09:01
intelikeyguiden that's probably not all there is /usr/games and /usr/local/*bin  as well but they might all or any of them be empty.09:01
swamime a 850009:01
swami860009:01
swamipardon me09:01
DaSkreech!p2p > guiden09:01
swamiand i get only 200 fps....09:01
guiden!p2p | guiden09:01
ubotuguiden: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.09:01
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guidenhehe09:01
swamion the glxgears09:02
DaSkreechswami: In My days we used to have spf and we liked it!!09:02
mslswami: what is the output of      glxinfo | grep rendering       from konsole09:02
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swamiis on os on09:02
guidenDaSkreech: that's a torrent klient'09:02
swamiis on09:02
legion!drivers09:02
swamidirect rendering -yes09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
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mslit says   direct rendering: Yes09:03
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swamiyes09:03
mslare you using open source drivers or ati binary drivers09:03
swamiit does09:03
swamibut the interesting part is this09:03
legionjust bought a new comp and I have installed kubuntu on it. Most things seem to be working smoothly, but I can't seem to get my sound up and running09:03
swamii have a pdf in background09:03
guiden!dc09:03
ubotudc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB09:04
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guiden!direct-connect09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about direct-connect - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
swamiywhen i change my focus on it the fps risese to 250009:04
swamiwhat the hell09:04
DaSkreechguiden: valken09:04
guiden!valken09:04
intelikey!sound | legion09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about valken - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
ubotulegion: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:04
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DaSkreech!info valken > guiden09:04
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ubotuPackage valken does not exist in any distro I know09:04
swamiany ideea what could it bw?09:04
mslyour FPS will go up when you cover the gears, or make the gears window smaller, etc.09:04
swamibe*09:04
swamiaha09:05
mslare you using Xgl?09:05
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swamibut when ii shows me the true fps09:05
swamiyes09:05
guidenDaskreetch: I dont find it on atp-get either09:05
swamibut now i'm not in a xgl/beryl session09:05
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mslIf you are using Xgl it is normal to have low FPS from glxgears09:06
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swamibut now i don't have such a session09:06
swamii'm on simple kde09:06
mslYou may not be using beryl at the moment but Xgl should still be loaded.09:06
swamihmm wait to see09:06
mslYour gears are turning just fine though, right?09:07
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guidenDaSkreech: are you sure it's called valken?09:07
DaSkreechguiden: Nope09:07
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guidenhehe ok09:07
BluesKajtried beryl ... my card doesn't support 3d accel etc si dumped it ...too many probs trying to get eye candy to work  :)09:08
guidenI'll check http://www.freshmeat.net09:08
BluesKajnot worth the trouble09:08
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guidenDaSkreech: Do you mean valknut?09:09
swamiyes09:09
swamithey are ok09:09
DaSkreech!valknut09:10
intelikeyblueskaj eye candy not worth the trubble ???  blasphemy !   they'll stone you for that in #*buntu09:10
ubotuvalknut: graphical client for Direct Connect. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 863 kB, installed size 3040 kB09:10
DaSkreechYes I do :)09:10
swamivalknut is a direct connect client09:10
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swami:)09:10
mslswami, in that case, I think you are fine and have good 3d acceleration09:10
DaSkreechintelikey: and #*ista incidentally09:10
muneserveralguien de chile09:10
guidenBut I want a direct connect client that is "K":ed09:10
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mslIt's just being screwy with the reported FPS from glxgears09:10
swamihow can i speak to u directly not on the chat?09:10
intelikeyDaSkreech *ol09:10
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sirmisback09:11
sirmisand drunk ;)09:11
sirmish0h0h0h0h0h0h009:11
swami!msl dsd09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about msl dsd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
DaSkreechguiden: It does have K :-P09:11
swami\msl dsd09:11
sirmis09:12
sirmis.09:12
swamimsl09:12
sirmiswhat =09:12
sirmis'09:12
swamiwhy ur chat apears red...09:12
sirmiski09:12
guidenIs there an official standard kde application like konqueror for web, k3b for burning tool, Kpdf. I mean is there this "list" of good programs?09:12
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swamiwhile mine is still black...is this a private chat...09:12
intelikeyswami it's voodoo09:12
BluesKajintelikey, i followed the instructions to the letter ...took me 2 hrs to findout after all the trouble ...i find out  at the end of the page that my ati card won't support most of beryl options ...you'd be a bit annoyed too09:13
swamii'm sorry i don;t use irc chats verry often09:13
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DaSkreechguiden: For peer tp eer?09:13
sirmiscrash :S09:13
mslswami: no,  try     /msg msl blah blah blah09:13
DaSkreechguiden: No  idon't know that there will ever be09:13
swamiytanks:)09:13
AlIs there a default response for people asking about the windows key?09:13
sirmishaha09:13
intelikeyBluesKaj i stay annoyed    saves time.09:13
sirmiswidows key :D09:13
BluesKaj!windows key09:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about windows key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:13
sirmistypo09:13
Al:( ubotu fails me09:14
AlSo yah how do I bind Super_L09:14
BluesKajnot really into eye candy anyway , suprefluous extras don't turn my crank much :)09:14
AlI've done it before but forgot how09:15
guidenOk but do I already have a dc client on the default installation of kubuntu?09:15
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intelikey!hotkeys09:15
ubotuhotkeys: A hotkeys daemon for your Internet/multimedia keyboard in X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.7.4 (edgy), package size 141 kB, installed size 384 kB09:15
BluesKajintelikey, what's command for erasing a dvdrw?09:15
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intelikeyBluesKaj idk sorry i have no dvd drive...09:15
BluesKajno need to format , just erase09:16
BluesKajwell, cdrw then ..prolly the same :)09:16
bxnpintelikey, the right syntax for starting an app with an icon on the desktop so that it runs with a different syntax is  konsole & sudo renice -5 $! &09:16
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Althink I've worked it out09:16
bxnpruns with a differnt nice value i meant intelikey09:16
bxnpkonsole & sudo renice -5 $! &09:16
bxnpif the app is for example konsole09:17
intelikeywhy start a konsole ?09:17
intelikeyoh09:17
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bxnpfor example09:18
bxnpyou could replace konsole with any app you want09:18
intelikeybut again kdesu would eliminate sudo needing input and not finding it.09:18
intelikeyyou could replace sudo with kdesu09:18
intelikeyshould prolly09:18
bxnpoke but in your way renice would not know the pid of the app09:19
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bxnpso the renice would not take place09:19
bxnpif i understand correctly09:19
bxnpbut then again i am using linux only for 4 weeks09:19
intelikeybxnp my way would be `pidof appname`  for the pid number  :)09:19
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intelikeydifferance in console -vs- gui approach09:19
bxnpyes but then you have to search for it09:20
intelikeyno09:20
intelikeyecho "  `pidof echo`  is the pid number."09:20
bxnpoke yes09:21
intelikeytest that ^09:21
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intelikeyheh will maybe it exits to quickly for the process table to update.09:21
z4scorpionlu all09:21
swamid09:21
intelikeyecho "  `pidof echo`  is the pid number. `sleep 2`"09:22
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guidenDoes anyone understand what the those choices I have when I open Krita?09:22
VarjatHi, gays! I trying to install LIRC module for my TV tuner. But cann't to compile kernel modules because following problem: /bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory09:22
VarjatIs anybody know how to fix this?09:22
intelikeyi can't believe echo doesn't have a pid... i had never tried that before09:23
brettVarjat: Gays?09:23
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brettVarjat: do you mean guys?09:23
VarjatSorry :)09:23
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brettVarjat: :-)09:23
guidenOh, that was on purpose09:23
VarjatYes, offcorce :)09:23
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dhqi downloaded kubuntu dvd but my md5 is not correct09:23
z4scorpionlkn09:23
guiden:)09:23
z4scorpionjn09:23
z4scorpionohpohip09:23
brettVarjat: just want to let you know why no one responded09:24
z4scorpiontest09:24
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DankerWhich avatar is better ? This one http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=asadar6.png or this one http://img68.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dankerlogopu5.png09:25
brettswami: yes i can see what you wrote but this nick is not registered09:25
Varjatbrett, sorry :)  As you see, my English is bad, so a can'nt understand what you mean :)09:25
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brettVarjat: oh really? what language do you speak09:26
VarjatRussian, Belarussian09:26
dhq!rsync09:26
ubotursync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB09:26
brettVarjat: oh cool. Do you know what 'gay' means?09:26
VarjatNo-no, i can understand english, but only use more simple words :)09:27
VarjatYes, I know :)09:27
brettVarjat: :-)09:27
VarjatI'm sorry09:27
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brettVarjat: i am not upset.... just wanted to let you know before you said it to someone who would be09:27
guidenputin :)09:27
VarjatI allways confuse this word.. Guys, gays.. :)09:28
z4scorpion_french here?09:28
guidenHow is it in russia, how is it to live there right now? live in sweden btw09:29
z4scorpion_how I do for register on this channel?09:29
dhqplease give me link on rsync server for the kubuntu dvd09:29
dhqfdoving: ^^09:29
VarjatI live in Belarus.. :) And our president is Lukashenko09:29
guidenaha, the orange revolution?09:30
guidenno, wrong country09:30
z4scorpion_how I do for register on this channel?09:30
robotgeekplease keep discussion ontopic, for offtopic use #kubuntu-offtopic09:30
VarjatNo :) Orange revolution in the Ucraine09:30
guidenyeah :p09:30
robotgeek!register > z4scorpion_09:30
guidensry robot09:30
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robotgeekguiden: no problem09:31
z4scorpionlol robot find automaticly ! it's magic!09:31
gnomefreakz4scorpion: any reason you are pinging me with numbers?09:31
swamid09:31
VarjatSo, what about LIRC? :)09:31
swamiregister09:32
VarjatIs anybody have installed them?09:32
swamiregister >dsds09:32
guidenrobotgeek: sry about this one to, i can't talk to you in private, i just wanted to know if you programme robots? :)09:32
swamiregister > dsds09:32
swami!register > dsds09:32
z4scorpiongnomefreak no it test irc ^^09:32
robotgeekswami: what are you doing!09:32
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robotgeekguiden: no, i am real person :)09:32
guidenrobotgeek, hehe I mean, do you make real robots? :)09:33
robotgeekguiden: uesed to, not anymore09:33
gnomefreakno need to do it.09:33
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conorhmm09:34
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MongeyI've got an ipv6 problem09:34
Mongeyhow do i getrid of it09:34
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guidenrobotgeek:cool, do you know hydralics and motors, sry for offtopic but I haven't registered?09:34
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bretti am trying to get a program to work under wine but for some reason the program does not see my cd drives09:35
brettany ideas?09:35
robotgeekguiden: yes, /j #kubuntu-offtopic :)09:35
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Dr_willischeck your wine config files.09:35
Mongeyany ideas for ipv6 ?09:35
z4scorpionregister aml09:36
brettDr_willis: i ran winecfg and everything apears to be in order09:36
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z4scorpiontest09:37
Dr_willisbrett,  could mount the cd manually, and see if that helps. I havent used wine to access a cdrom drive in ages.09:37
brettDr_willis: how would you do that?09:37
Dr_willismoun /media/cdrom (or whatever its called)09:37
Dr_willisoops mount.09:38
bretti see the cd fine in linux09:38
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Dr_willisthat imples your wine config is incorrect then.09:38
z4scorpionI don't understand how register my nickname on the channel09:38
Dr_willisz4scorpion,  /msg nickserv help09:39
Dr_willisIts a 'network wide' registeration thing.09:39
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z4scorpioni try this09:39
z4scorpioni try this09:39
z4scorpion /msg nickserv help09:39
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dhqi need help in rsync of the kubuntu dvd please help me09:39
z4scorpionhmm09:39
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z4scorpionI have to make that: /msg nickserv help in freenode channel?09:40
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brettDr_willis: wait.... i think i found it09:40
brettDr_willis: wrong cd configured09:40
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z4scorpionthe register command is to make in freenode?09:41
eilkerwhat does "sudo aptitude clean" ?09:41
z4scorpionthe register command is to make in freenode?09:42
h3sp4wneilker: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives09:42
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eilker!rf09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
intelikeyi don't get this.  /bin/echo doesn't seem to have a process id09:43
eilkerh3sp4wn: what is -rf for ?09:43
h3sp4wneilker: basically it deletes everything in /var/cache/apt/archives09:43
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intelikeyeilker recursive force09:43
intelikeyeilker man rm09:43
h3sp4wnIt probably does something a little less brutal but the end result is the same09:44
eilkerh3sp4wn: thanx09:44
intelikeyh3sp4wn you have to have */partial/ in there.09:44
shitosshello09:44
intelikeyapt balks without it09:44
eilkerintelikey: thanx, got it09:44
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shitossi need any one can deal with c programming language09:45
conoripv6 help ?09:45
shitossor channel09:45
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intelikeyshitoss ##C09:45
shitosslook i have a problim09:45
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shitosscan u explain this09:45
intelikeyno09:46
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intelikeyi do not C09:46
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intelikeylong time, no C09:46
h3sp4wnintelikey: True it does it probably just removes *.deb from /var/cache/apt/archives and /var/cache/apt/archives/partial09:46
shitossok can u guide me to some one or some place to solve problims in c09:46
dhqDr_willis:  i need help in rsync of the kubuntu dvd please help me09:46
intelikeyh3sp4wn that would be apt-get clean09:46
TheGateKeepershitoss, what is your problem?09:47
intelikeyshitoss ##C09:47
dr0fnax!xgl09:47
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:47
h3sp4wnintelikey: aptitude clean is probably the same (I think it is)09:47
intelikeyyes09:47
shitossok tell me09:47
h3sp4wn20:43 < eilker> what does "sudo aptitude clean" ? (was the original question)09:47
eilkeri think, apt-get clean and aptitude clean is different09:48
intelikey/join ##C09:48
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shitoss# #c09:48
intelikeyshitoss no     /join ##C09:48
eilkeraptitude deletes partial too09:48
z4scorpioni m now connected with my nick !09:48
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h3sp4wneilker: It leaves the directory though09:49
conorhow do i reset my network settings to default ?09:50
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eilkeranyone experienced in mail servers ?09:50
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intelikeyfetchmail/sendmail   but not qualified to help.09:51
intelikeyback later.09:51
dan__whats the lib that i need to instal to make k3b burn cds from mp3 to audio09:51
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eilkercoming back09:51
dan__anyone?09:52
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TheGateKeeperdan__, 1 min09:52
dan__cool09:52
dan__thanx09:52
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TheGateKeeperdan__,   libk3b2-mp309:53
dan__right on dude thanx09:53
TheGateKeeperyw :-)09:53
conorannyone??09:53
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TheGateKeeperI was going to try & help with the C question but intelikey sent him/her packing lol09:54
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Dr_willisdan__,  thats mentioned on the Kubuntu FAQ10:00
Dr_willis:)10:00
Dr_willisand some other mp3-related questions as well10:00
joe3kconor: what do you mean by default network settings?10:00
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conorim trying to get rid of ipv610:01
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conorbut i deleted 2 values10:01
MorrisseyOk, with a clean user (wich I just added to kde) I can run beryl-xgl with no problems :) But when I try to use it with my default user (wich Ive used for over a year with all of my settings) I get "Another window manager is allready running." and "No managaeble screens found on display" Can anyone help?10:01
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conorthat had ipv6 in it10:01
h3sp4wnI suppose you can start from scratch by removing /etc/network/interfaces10:01
h3sp4wnand reading man interfaces10:01
Dr_willish3sp4wn,  im thinking hes got some other issues.10:02
conori cant "see" the ect folder10:02
joe3kconor: what values did you delete where?10:02
conorits as if i dont have permission10:02
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Dr_willisconor,  use the shell, or type in the address in the address bar /etc/10:02
Nukedgranted this has nothing to do with kde, but I figure ill ask here, seeing as I prefer this room10:02
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Dr_willis!hidden10:02
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles10:02
conorDr_willis: i did10:02
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conorty10:03
NukedI compiled and installed fluxbox and installed it to --prefix=/usr10:03
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Dr_willisi type in /etc/apt/ or so on all the time.... :)10:03
h3sp4wnNuked: Why ? to prefix /usr ? that is silly10:03
conorwell10:03
Dr_willisbetter yet. Use the shell. heh10:03
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h3sp4wnNuked: the package manager uses that prefix prefix to /usr/local or /opt10:03
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NukedOH MAN I knew I should have done that! thank god for checkinstall10:04
aMohammedIs it possible to install GDM on Kubuntu without Gnome core ?10:04
conori deleted something that had ip6 in it in network settings10:04
robotgeekaMohammed: sure10:04
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aMohammedhow to set it up then ?10:05
Nukedh3sp4wn: now when I recompile, should gdm automatically pick it up?10:05
robotgeekaMohammed: just install it, sudo apt-get install gdm, or so10:05
h3sp4wnNuked: Why would it ? Is there a particular reason you need to compile fluxbox ?10:05
aMohammedit'll replace kdm automatically ?10:06
h3sp4wn!info fluxbox10:06
ubotufluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (edgy), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB10:06
Nukedmemory issues10:06
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Dr_willis!info matchbox10:06
ubotumatchbox: base environment for resource-limited systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3 (edgy), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB10:06
conorok im in /ect/apt10:06
joe3kconor: and what are actually your symptoms? isn't something working ....?10:06
h3sp4wnIf you are running fluxbox gdm comparitively wastes loads of resources10:07
h3sp4wnuse xdm10:07
conorinternet is extrexely slow10:07
Dr_willisor boot to the console and use 'startx'10:07
h3sp4wnor xinit10:07
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Nukedh3sp4wn: how would I point gdm in the right direction though... just so that I can know should I decide to do this elsewhere (yes I am crazy)10:07
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joe3kconor: aaah i remember few years ago there were some problems with kde and ipv6, but that had something to do with crappy dns servers and should have been fixed for a long time10:08
h3sp4wnI don't use gdm but kde uses .desktop files10:08
NukedI know that gdm uses .desktop10:08
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h3sp4wnIf I need to add one I do dpkg -S *.desktop10:08
h3sp4wnwork out where it is and then write a new one10:08
joe3kconor: what connection do you have? ppp or cable?10:08
conorso do you know what i should do ?10:08
conorcable10:09
joe3kconor: nope, sorry :) but let's try something10:09
cox377does anyone here run dual boot with windows?10:09
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joe3kconor: do you have any reason to think it has something to do with ipv6?10:09
Dr_williscox377,  a great majority do. :)10:09
joe3kDr_willis: i don't ;-)10:10
Nukedh3sp4wn: how does the xinit work?10:10
h3sp4wnNuked: just uses .xinitrc10:10
conorjoek: last time i had kubuntu this was the problem10:10
h3sp4wnNuked: exec /opt/e17/bin/enlightenment_start10:10
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conorsame with windows10:10
cox377Dr_willis: i dont @ the moment, well i want want to on this machine but im thinking about it on another machine, whats the best way of doing it?10:10
h3sp4wn(only line you need in it) then it runs when xinit is run10:10
conorwhen ipv6 was enanbled same problem10:10
conorwell10:11
Nukedh3sp4wn:  then do I have to tell the login manager where to boot from10:11
conorim pretty sure it was in the dns tab of network settings10:11
joe3kconor: hmm can you paste your /etc/networks and /etc/network/interfaces10:11
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joe3kconor: ok then /etc/resolv.conf10:11
h3sp4wnNuked: I don't use a login manager10:12
conorjoe3k: nameserver 192.168.1.25410:12
conor^^thats it10:12
joe3kconor: well doesn't look like ipv610:13
conor:_(10:13
conormore god damn problems10:13
gtwyinteresting ip to have your dns on...10:13
conorconor@conor-desktop:~$ ip a | grep inet610:13
conor    inet6 ::1/128 scope host10:13
conor    inet6 fe80::215:f2ff:fe77:3005/64 scope link10:13
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conor^^^any help ?10:13
jeff_Hi, all10:13
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conorgtwy: its default from the router10:14
cox377dual boot anyone?10:14
gtwywhat is the ip of the router10:14
joe3kconor: well i've something similar and can't complain10:14
jeff_Hey, I get an error message trying to get the NVidia drivers up and running on a new Edgy installation.10:14
conorreally slow internet ?10:14
conorwhen its fine in xp10:14
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joe3kcox377: what's your problem with dual boot?10:15
jeff_It says to make sure I've installed the driver for my running kernel, and according to the package manager, it looks like I have it installed.10:15
joe3kcox377: setup win on the primary partition and then install linux10:15
cox377joe3k: well no probs10:15
cox377joe3k: just never done it10:15
jeff_Anyone know what package I'm missing?10:15
joe3kcox377: windows usually has problems when it's not on the very first partition10:15
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joe3kjeff_: seems like you're compiling10:16
jeff_looks like I have nvidia-kernel-common (that was installed automatically)10:16
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joe3kconor: can you try somethinkg like dig www.google.com or ping www.google.com10:16
cox377joe3k: ok, so install windows, install linux on the next partition.. say 10gb then...?10:17
jeff_joe3k: not that I know of.  THe command I'm running is sudo nvidia-glxpconfig enable10:17
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joe3kconor: to find out whether it's the dns or actually the packet transfer10:17
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joe3kjeff_: ahh ok, then i haven't said anything :-/10:17
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joe3kjeff_: you have the correct restricted modules and nvidia-glx?10:18
joe3kcox377: 10gb for what? how much place do you have?10:18
cox377well the linux partition, just taking a random number10:18
cox377say 80gig windows 80gig linux then10:19
cox377then when u reboot what happens?10:19
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joe3kcox377: first you install win10:19
jeff_joe3k: I think so, but I'm not sure.  I'm coming from Mandriva, where I used NVidia's packages.  I just tried modprobe nvidia, and the module didn't load, giving the following error: Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:19
joe3kcox377: after installing linux you will have a bott mgr sitting in mbr10:19
joe3kcox377: that will ask you to choose the system to boot upon every start10:19
cox377as easy as that?10:20
swamihmm  i have a friend that uses the debian and he has  this problem with the xgl/beryl .....the cube apears white....just white///no texture...do u know something about that...10:20
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joe3kcox377: yep10:20
swamiany oane know something about that10:20
swami?10:20
jeff_joe3k: so perhaps I need to change 'nv' to 'nvidia' in my xorg.conf, then try the original command (iwhich came from the nvidia-glx package description)10:20
swamihmm  i have a friend that uses the debian and he has  this problem with the xgl/beryl .....the cube apears white....just white///no texture...do u know something about that...10:20
joe3kcox377: the linux installers will usually detect the win and add it automatically to the boot options10:20
cox377joe3k: ahhh cool, the main reason i asked was back in the FC3 days it was much more complicated. Ive already got windows installed on a certain box and really want to try another linux on it10:20
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cox377joe3k: just gotta work out how risky it shall be10:21
cox377joe3k: ;)10:21
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swamiofftopic10:21
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derekho55does anybody have "Incorrect size of shared memory area. Incompatible driver version?10:21
joe3kcox377: well i didi it more times and somehow it always worked already with mdk7.2 iirc :)10:21
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derekho55Does anybody have problems with synclient with Edgy ?10:21
joe3kjeff_: i think that's actually what the nvidia-glx-config enable should do10:22
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joe3kcox377: actually nothing terrible should happen, event if it does not get recognized you can still add the mbr entries later10:22
jeff_joe3k: yeah, i just made the change with nano, and it looks like it checks the md5 sum of the xorg config, but when I went to edit it, it was set at nv.  I think I can puzzle through the rest of this.  I'm getting strings I can pull at.  Thanks for listening.10:23
joe3kjeff_: try dpkg -l linux-restricted-modules*10:23
cox377joe3k: i'm just watching a little video on google, something about creating a swap drive before installing ubuntu10:23
joe3kjeff_: then uname -a and compare ....10:24
joe3kjeff_: btw i had such problem on the dapper when i didn't have all repos correctly set up10:24
joe3kjeff_: linux upgraded because of security update and the restricted modules not (false repos setup)10:24
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joe3kjeff_: then the old nvidia mod didn't want to load because of new kernel10:25
jeff_joe3k: actually, I think I'm good.  I'll write your advice down, but I just got what looked like satisfactory results from the original command.  Now I need to restart X.  Thanks for your help, though10:25
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joe3kcox377: hmmm i think the installer should do it automatically10:25
cox377joe3k: ok cool, it did look like maybe it was an older video10:25
joe3kcox377: you know something about linux and partitioning?10:26
cox377joe3k: ummm i've been using kubuntu for about 5 months now as my main machine, but apart from using it i havent really got into that much detail10:26
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joe3kcox377: well usually you get two options in the installer - automatic and manual setup10:27
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joe3kcox377: automatic should do everything well but i usually setup it manually so i can't tell how well it does its job :)10:27
joe3kcox377: anyway you usually need at least two partitions for linux, swap and root (/)10:28
cox377joe3k: is there a command to configure audio, just booted the dreamlinux cd and no audio under my soundblaster10:29
cox377joe3k: it's debian based10:29
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Dr_willisalsa<tab> perhaps10:30
joe3kcox377: not sure, but you can try to load the driver per hand ....10:30
joe3kcox377: what sb do you have?10:30
cox377Ummm10:31
cox377joe3k: good question, soundblaster 5.1 basic one10:31
joe3kcox377: ehm :) try lspci10:31
Varjat_byHI! Is anybody know how to fix problem during LIRC driver compilation process. Error is "/bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory"?10:32
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franhi10:33
cox377joe3k: good thinking, it's strange, every other live distro i've ever tried worked straight out of the box, cheers anyway10:33
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joe3kcox377: if you have sb live or similar emu10k based i could help you i have one myself ;-)10:35
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cox377joe3k: doh, my mistake, i played around with the sound levels and it just started working.. very stange10:37
cox377Cheers anyway ;)10:37
joe3kcox377: np ;-)10:37
dr0fnax!xgl10:38
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems10:38
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cox377joe3k: maybe i spoke to soon, worked with google video but no when playing a media file, and it is the same as yours. however i'm wondering if it's a codec prob.. 2 ticks10:39
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cox377joe3k: error:"could not open/initilize audio device10:40
cox377joe3k: did yours work out of the box?10:40
guidenWhat is it that decide which programs should be in the K menu? How do find out how the k menu works?10:41
BluesKajoops. my desktop is suddenly huge ...Monitor Display & System Settings could not be loaded , an orphaned control module ...what gives ?10:41
joe3kjoe3k: can't remember i installed mine maybe 4 yrs ago and didn't have to tamper with it since10:41
snowiceQuestion from a new user that converted from debian. I'm very happy with kubuntu, but how is it possible that a package in a stable release has missing dependencies? I'm talking about kdar. It can easily be solved by installing it manually, but isn't there anyone that can correct the repositories?10:42
Dr_willisguiden,  theres a lot of SOMTHING.desktop files that tye system scans for and puts them in the menus. I belive10:43
joe3kcox377: do you have snd_emu10k1 loaded? (lsmod)10:43
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cox377joe3k: ummm sorry mate, whats that?10:45
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joe3ksnowice: post a bug report please10:45
guidenDr_willis: Ok, but I feel like I have no control over what programs is installed, what they are and stuff10:45
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joe3kjoe3k: !kdar10:46
eilkeri have this in xorg.log                     The directory "/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist.10:46
joe3kwth10:46
joe3k!kdar10:46
snowicejoe3k, ok, I will check the bug reports and file one if it's not done already10:46
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ubotukdar: archive data to disc. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1268 kB, installed size 2212 kB10:46
clau85hi! are there any other bigger differences between dapper and edgy other than the ones on the site?10:46
cox377joe3k: looking on the net it's asking to add these two lines into the kernal10:46
cox377joe3k: "10:46
cox377device sound10:46
cox377   device snd_emu10k110:46
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joe3kcox377: type lsmod in the console and check10:46
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joe3ksnowice: edgy or dapper?10:47
cox377joe3k: says used by zero10:48
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joe3kcox377: well but it's there ... and do you see a bunch of other snd_.. modules as well?10:48
cox377yup10:48
cox377joe3k:10:49
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MorrisseyOk, I have two questions concerning beryl. 1. Can I make windows only show on the desktop they are opened it on the taskbar? So if "xchat" is on one desktop, it doesnt appear on other. 2. how can I disable transperancy (Since its slowing my computer). In advance, thanks10:49
cox377joe3k: whats weird, any audio that comes from firefox works, but everytime i try playing a media file locally it says please configure your soundcard10:49
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snowicejoe3k, it's in edgy and there is already a confirmed bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdar/+bug/6269910:50
guidendoes ubuntu have the biggest community or is it debian or redhat?10:50
Dr_willisMorrissey,  thats a kde Taskbar setting - so yes. :)  if by 'show' you mean show up in the taskbar.10:51
MorrisseyDr_willis, exacly :) Where can I set that?10:51
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joe3ksnowice: seems hobbsee updated the packages the last time, maybe you can ask her to fix it10:51
Dr_willisright click on the taskbar habndel and look in its settings.. where else. :)10:51
cox377guiden: definatly has the best support10:51
Dr_willisthe little ::::::::: bar at the left of the taskbar10:51
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Dr_willis"show windows from all desktops"10:52
MorrisseyDr_willis, it actually looks like xgl has disabled that10:52
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Dr_willisMorrissey,  no idea. I dont use xgl. dont plan on ever using it.10:52
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snowicejoe3k, how do I contact this person?10:52
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joe3kcox377: what program do you use for the audio?10:53
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swamixmms10:54
joe3ksnowice: she's usually around here and on #kubuntu-devel but she's afaik from australia so you gotta figure some reasonable time :)10:54
Dr_willisits like 4 AM down there isent it?10:55
guidencos377: ok, yeah I liked the community documentation, easy and straight forward10:55
snowicejoe3k, thanks, if I see her, I'll ask her :-)10:55
joe3ksnowice: you can find a contact in the bugreport as well, just look at the lower left part "Current release" and click on the Creator: xxx name10:55
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joe3kjoe3k: i was told it's usual to ask the creator first :) if it won't work just ask at #kubuntu-devel10:56
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joe3kDr_willis: hmmm i'd say 7am10:57
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cox377joe3k: well i tried mplayer & xmms10:58
snowicejoe3k, thanks,10:58
guidenanyone that has played armagetron?10:58
joe3kjoe3k: np10:58
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guidenis it good?10:59
guidenLike the movie I guess :P10:59
joe3kcox377: if you fire mplayer from command line you should see a lot of output maybe that could help10:59
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joe3kcox377: do you have a 2nd sound card or tv tuner or ... ?10:59
joe3kguiden: it's this gl stuff isn't it11:00
ubuntuhey11:00
ubuntuwhat's the dif btwn unbuntu and kubuntu ?11:00
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robotgeekubuntu: ubuntu uses gnome, and kubuntu uses kde11:01
cox377joe3k: nope, only onboard sound but thats disabled in bios,11:01
cox377joe3k: its worked under all over live cd's11:01
ubuntuwhich one is better for server apps ?11:02
joe3kguiden: can try it it was not that bad ... i'm not playing it now, but ymmv11:02
joe3kguiden: now i'll stick rather to bzflag ;-)11:02
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joe3kcox377: well debugging sound probs if it's not automatically correctly set up can be a lot of fun11:03
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joe3kcox377: you'll probably have to stick to cmd line to find something out .... i'd try eg "mplayer filename"11:04
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cox377joe3k: alright mate, cheers for that11:07
guidenNo! My computer gets stuck when the right after I the match begins in armagetron,11:07
guidenSomething was out of range, I think my graphic card is wierd11:08
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Horstyeah waZz up boys 'n girls?11:10
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Morrisseyanyone using KDE and Ubuntu?11:11
MorrisseyI mean11:11
Morrisseyhehe, using KDE and XGL/BERYL?11:11
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joe3kMorrissey: still probs with your user11:12
joe3k?11:12
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Morrisseyjoe3k, nah, got beryl to work (!) :) Its sweet ... but I want to make so that windows on a different dekstop doesnt show on my current desktops taskbar .. if you know what I mean :)11:13
Morrisseyso if amarok is on desk2, it doesnt show on desk1's taskbar11:13
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joe3kMorrissey: eeehm not sure if it's possible11:13
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joe3kMorrissey: heard that beryl implements the virtual desktops the other way eg kde/gnome/other win mgrs do11:14
Morrisseyyeah, heard that too11:14
Morrisseyto bad it doesnt support that ... thats the whole idea of several desktops, isnt it :)11:14
joe3kMorrissey: i don't use taskbar so i wouldn't mind either :)11:15
joe3kMorrissey: but you're actually right :)11:15
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guiden_ah, now I can't even start it11:16
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guiden_damn opengl11:16
joe3kguest_: watch out otherwise you won't be able to boot in a few minutes ;-)11:16
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joe3kMorrissey: btw do you have an nvidia? if yes what drivers do you have? the official 96xx or prerelease 97xx?11:18
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Morrisseyjoe3k, have ati11:19
Morrisseyactually :)11:19
MorrisseyI get about 230frames/seconds with beryl too ..11:19
joe3koh11:19
joe3kquite a lot :)11:19
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Morrisseywith a 64mb DDR card11:19
MorrisseyI know11:19
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Morrisseyimpressed11:19
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cox377joe3k: just one last question, does it matter if u install linux as a dual boot if it's on another harddrive?11:20
joe3kwhen i tried it way back with xgl i just couldn't get used to the wobbly stuff11:20
cox377joe3k: i've got a partition on another hdd that would be perfect11:20
joe3kcox377: that should do but you have to decide how you want to boot it11:21
cox377joe3k: what do u mean?11:21
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joe3kcox377: well the boot seq is usually bios->mbr code->os11:21
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cox377joe3k: ahhh ok i think i get u, is it risky business?11:21
joe3kcox377: you need to install the grub/lilo somewhere11:22
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eilker!netcat11:22
ubotunetcat: TCP/IP swiss army knife. In component main, is important. Version 1.10-32 (edgy), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB11:22
joe3kcox377: if you install on the 2nd hdd you'll have to choose via bios to boot from the 2nd hdd11:22
cox377joe3k: saying that i do have vista installed on another hdd and it worked fine, or would it be differnet with linux11:22
joe3kcox377: if you install on the first hdd it'll just stay there even if you uninstall linux11:22
joe3kcox377: hmmm and how did you boot it?11:23
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cox377joe3k: it just came up as an option during boot XP or vista11:23
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joe3kcox377: and if you remove the vista hdd you still have the vista option during boot?11:24
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wildchild!samba11:24
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:24
eilker!sleep11:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:25
cox377joe3k: ummm not sure about that, never disconnected it, theres quite a few hdd's in the box11:25
Ickhow do i get libdvdcss11:25
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Ick?11:25
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zorglu_!codec | lck11:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:26
zorglu_!codecs | lck11:26
ubotulck: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:26
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joe3kIck: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/11:26
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zorglu_joe3k: it is no more in multiverse/universe ?11:27
joe3kcox377: hmmmm in that case you should be carefull probably not to mess up your current boot screen11:27
joe3kzorglu_: not sure if it's the right one11:27
zorglu_!info libdvdcss11:27
ubotuPackage libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know11:27
joe3kliar11:27
joe3k:)11:27
cox377joe3k: think i'm gonna add another partion to the primary drive : P11:28
joe3kcox377: wait a minute11:28
cox377joe3k: ok11:28
zorglu_!libdvdcss11:28
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:28
joe3kzorglu_: there is one for sure11:28
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zorglu_yep :)11:28
joe3kzorglu_: but i think i did recently fresh dapper install and it didn't work11:28
joe3kzorglu_: i had to download11:29
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joe3kzorglu_: though i may have messed up something11:29
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zorglu_yep this is normal, css is not shipped by default for legal reason11:29
joe3kzorglu_: exactly :)11:29
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cox377joe3k: what do u rekon mate?11:30
joe3kcox377: i'm not 100% sure how the win handles this boot screen11:30
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joe3kcox377: whether it's on mbr or on the win partition11:31
joe3kcox377: if it's on mbr and you install linux there your boot screen will be lost11:31
cox377because of the different HDD?11:31
cox377between vista?11:31
joe3kcox377: well :)11:31
joe3kcox377: i'll try to explain11:31
cox377joe3k: it doesnt matter if i loose the xp/vista boot screen11:32
joe3kcox377: ok then11:32
joe3kcox377: anyway it goes like this11:32
joe3kcox377: your bios boots from hdd1/hdd2/hddwhatever11:33
joe3kcox377: this means that it loads the code from the mbr and starts it11:33
cox377joe3k: ok11:33
joe3kcox377: the code in the mbr usually contains the "os chooser"11:33
joe3kcox377: and this one loads then the os itself11:33
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joe3kcox377: so now you have probably the win "chooser" sitting in mbr of the hdd111:34
joe3kcox377: if you install linux it depends on the installer11:34
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joe3kcox377: a dirty installer will just overwrite the hdd1 mbr wout asking and put in the options every os he finds11:34
joe3kcox377: smart installer will let you choose between mbr on hdd1 and hdd211:35
cox377joe3k: what about if i re-partition the primary drive, or does the problem lie with vista/xp option?11:35
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cox377joe3k: ummm dirty instaler? smart installer?11:35
joe3kcox377: it's the coexistence of win/linux11:35
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joe3kcox377: i don't know how this the *ubuntu installer handles11:35
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cox377joe3k: well it's actually "dreamlinux" does that make a difference?11:36
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joe3kcox377: if you install the linux boot loader onto mbr@hdd2 you will surely not corrupt your win boot loaders but you'll have to choose in bios to boot from hdd211:37
cox377joe3k: ok, what about if i just re-partition the hdd1 drive?11:37
joe3kcox377: sorry i never installed that one11:37
cox377joe3k: it's debian based, or does that not matter11:38
cox377joe3k: think i'm just gonna re-partition hdd111:38
joe3kcox377: if it's no a problem for you then install onto hdd2 and install the boot loader on hdd111:38
joe3kcox377: you don't need to repartition hdd111:38
joe3kcox377:  if you're happy with your win boot screens gone, than it doesn't matter whether your linux will be sitting on hdd1 or hdd211:39
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cox377joe3k: ok cool, how do i install the boot loader on hdd1?11:40
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joe3kcox377: the installer will usually ask11:41
cox377ok sweet11:42
Dr_willisa lot of live cd installers and other not so smart installers dont. :(11:42
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joe3kthat would be the dirty one i tried to mention11:42
joe3kDr_willis: you know what the debian one does?11:42
cox377joe3k: ok so just install to HDD2 and tell it to put the boot loader on hdd1, and the swap thing should do itself11:42
Dr_willisI think the debian text installer and the ubuntu alternative (text) isntaller asks11:43
joe3kcox377: again the installer should be smart enough to set up swap for you11:43
Dr_willisIm not so suire the ubuntu live cd asks11:43
joe3ki think cox377 wants dreamlinux11:43
cox377joe3k: well i've got both this kubuntu machine and the other one infront of me, if thinks go wrong i can ask11:44
cox377:P11:44
joe3kcox377: should it ever asks silly questios about size, etc a rule of thumb is 2 x your ram11:44
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joe3kcox377: for the swap11:44
joe3kok so good luck11:45
Dr_willisheh - thats OLD skool thinking.11:45
joe3kyep :)11:45
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cox377joe3k: lol ok cool11:45
Dr_willisI tend to put 512mb swap  on my 2gb ram systems.. just in case11:46
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joe3kDr_willis: me the same i have 1,25gb ram and maybe 512swap11:46
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Dr_willisi also tend to keep a 512mb swap partition on all my machines.. just in case i use a live cd on them. it can find it.11:46
Dr_williseven my windows box's have a 512mb swap partition 'just in case'11:46
joe3kDr_willis: but if you'd have 256 or 512 mb ram you would make it probably bigger ;-)11:46
Dr_willis640K of ram is enough for everyone!11:47
guiden_Is there a way that I can change a download server during an installation11:47
guiden_the11:47
guiden_It's going to slow11:47
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joe3kyeah and my sinclair had 48k11:47
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hHello, I understand this is the place we can ask Ubuntu support questions, is that correct?11:49
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joe3kh: actually yes, but more of a kubuntu11:50
Dr_willisjoe3k,  you had a uber-sinclare then!11:50
joe3kDr_willis: the rubber one11:51
joe3kh: what is your poblem?11:51
Dr_willisI got a Sinclare 1000 hanging on the wall.11:51
BluesKajafter attempting to get beryl to work I uninstalled it ... i tried to reinstall the fglrx driver but was only partially successful , now have a HUGE Desktop res looks like it 640x480 and orphaned control modules in the System settings /Monitor and Display ...any ideas how to fix this ?11:51
hok, I was wondering if anyone knows how to add support for reading and writing to an external hard drive that is formatted with the Mac OS Extended filesystem?11:51
Dr_willisthats actually a LOW desktop res BluesKaj  :)11:51
joe3kDr_willis: don't know that one11:52
BluesKajyes Dr_willis, low res large size11:52
Dr_willisjoe3k,  littel bity thing about the size of a small paperback book. plastic/membrane keys.  4K of ram I think. :)11:52
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BluesKajwell, what about getting rid of orphaned modules so i canaccess the Monitor and display settings ?11:53
joe3kh: i'm not sure, did you simply try 'mount'?11:53
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h(I hear the trick is to build a Kernel and while doing that, be sure to enable hfs support.  that's from the Gentoo people.  So, I thought there might be a way to use the Ubuntu package manager and just get it.)11:54
Dr_willislib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/fs/hfs/hfs.ko11:54
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Dr_willisLooks like HFS modules are there in the default edgy install.11:55
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BluesKajryanakca, beryl din't work for my system ...now I've got orphaned control module and Monitor and Display can't be loaded in sys/settings ...what to do ?11:55
hDr_Willis, what do I need to do to enable that feature in Ubuntu?  (hfs support, I mean)?11:55
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ryanakcaMonitor and Display is a know bug...11:55
joe3kh: should work automatically11:55
ryanakcaBluesKaj: no?11:56
Dr_willish its a filesystem module.. its allready enabled.. mount the drive11:56
ryanakcaBluesKaj: what's your card?11:56
joe3kh: if the modules are there as Dr_willis says11:56
hin ither words, I don't know what the edgy install is.11:56
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joe3kh: do you know the mount command?11:56
BluesKajAtI xpress 200 onboard11:56
hI nount the drive, and start transferring files, and encounter numberous errors.11:56
Horst22yeah... i was in casino right now11:56
joe3kh: like?11:57
hI can never seem to get a file to transfer completely without problems...11:57
Dr_willisjoe3k,  its like pulling teeth some day aint it...11:57
Dr_willis:)11:57
hI'll try to replicate it, hand on...11:57
hhang on i mean11:57
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Dr_willis:)11:57
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joe3kDr_willis: :) was already worse :)11:58
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ryanakcaBluesKaj: and you installed XGL?11:58
joe3kh: there are mount options for hfs11:59
BluesKajyeah11:59
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hjoe3k, what do you mean?12:00
joe3kh: you can alter the way the partition is mounted12:01
joe3kh: but first paste 1-2 errors please12:01
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hjoe3k, ok, I'm working on it... it's being good while you and the Doctor are watching12:02
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hError "I/O error" while copying "/media/Sq...es/3Nov06".12:02
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hError "I/O error" while copying "/media/Squ...0_25Oct06".12:03
joe3kdoesn't look like something what can be fixed by mount params12:03
hBasically, it dies.12:03
joe3kh: can you please check the output of the 'mount' command and look at the line with your mac os partition12:04
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hjoe3k:  I better fill you in here.  The firewire drive is plugged into this PC running Ubuntu.  I was copying files from it to a folder on the desktop that I created.  So I think you mean I need to pull up a terminal (I'm new to linux, but trying to learn quickly)12:06
hthe firewire external is Mas OS Extended   ...filesystem12:06
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joe3kh: yes i mean run 'mount' in terminal12:08
hackeronhey there - how do I stop gwenview from playing videos or at least stop resetting my volume from 3% to f****** 80%??12:08
hk, have one up, and what should I look for re: the firewire?12:09
hoops12:10
h" /dev/sda3 on /media/Squeaky type hfsplus (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000) "12:10
hI named the FW drive Squeaky.  That12:10
joe3kh: looks actually great12:11
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his only for reference12:11
joe3kh: do you have dapper or edgy?12:11
tanlaanhello12:11
hit should work then12:11
tanlaanhas anyone heard of "mac on linux"?12:11
hI will see...12:11
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robotgeektanlaan: i have, i use it12:11
joe3kh: actually the i/o errors look like some hw problems or problems with the drivers12:12
tanlaanrobotgeek: do you need to have a dual booting computer first off?12:12

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