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sn9killown: barely, but once you get it to work, you'll like the results12:01
DreamerHxC1wait let me show you my xorg.conf12:01
killowncerto!12:01
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ublenderhey, does anyone know of a way to set up ubuntu to share work-load over a network?12:02
mcphailjimmypw: what are you doing to exit the application?12:02
DreamerHxC1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33553/12:03
Seveasublender, that's application specific12:03
sn9ublender: there are several pkgs that do that12:03
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Seveasublender, distcc does it for compiling for instance12:03
slavikDreamerHxC1: why not use the ati driver?12:03
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ublenderer, I found drqueue for rendering. but I was hoping to find one for video encoding as well12:03
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slavikDreamerHxC1: I need the Section "ServerLayout"12:04
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DreamerHxC1ok wait12:04
Seveasublender, maybe mencoder can do that? Or transcode\12:04
jimmypwmcphail; for example i press ^a-c to create a new screen by default its bash thats loaded.... I do what i have to do then i type exit and bash closes closing the screen to *usually* but sometimes the procrss just goes zombie on me and i cant kill it however i try12:04
simmerzwhy can't i build the hostap driver with make-kpkg? it keeps erroring saying that there isn't a makefile for it12:04
ublenderSeveas: mmm, thx, i'll see what I can find out about that12:04
tonyyarussoSeveas: Is it theoretically possible to make something that would distribute all of your processing?12:04
Seveastonyyarusso, yes12:04
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mcphailjimmypw: what process "goes zombie"? The bash session?12:05
tonyyarussoSeveas: Cool.  /me hopes someone does, and packages it for us :)12:05
cntbissue12:05
cntbsamba share read only /home/user.  windows tries to read but is asked a user password multiple times .have come across such issue? what is the workaround?12:05
kralcymerejin the goal of playing dvds on my system I loaded Xine, but it is telling me that "The source can not be read - maybe you don't have enough rights for this or the source doesn't contain any data" any ideas?12:05
ublenderare there any load sharing programs that are not app specific? can that even be done?12:05
sn9Seveas: you're a high-ranking ubuntu guy -- ever hear of liborbit2 becoming non-functional upon a breezy-to-dapper upgrade?12:05
Seveassn9, nope12:06
mushanyone willing to help me out, please?12:06
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tonyyarussomush: Just ask your question and see12:06
sn9Seveas: well, it appears to have happened to me12:06
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jimmypwmcphial: yes the bash session or whatever app i started after screen <appname>12:06
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sn9Seveas: it's making firefox do a SIGILL, and i suspect it's what's causing synaptic to crash too12:07
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DreamerHxC1slavik http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33554/12:07
Seveassn9, funky, tried reinstalling the thing?12:07
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mushwhen i plug my usb drive, it does not seem to correctly detect the free space...12:07
Seveas(the thing == liborbit)12:07
sn9Seveas: liborbit2? yes. and firefox, too12:07
Seveassn9, and how did you determine it to be liborbit?12:07
mushi use edgy12:07
sn9Seveas: gdb12:07
slavikDreamerHxC1: ok ... gimme a sec12:07
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jimmypwmcphial: would you like me to pastebin my results of ps waxf?12:08
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Seveassn9, can you pastebin the gdb output please12:08
DreamerHxC1slavik ok12:08
slavikDreamerHxC1: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33556/12:08
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simmerzif i make-kpkg kernel_image, is the only difference between that and modules_image that 3rd party modules aren't installed?12:09
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sn9Seveas: well, i no longer have the window open, but i can recreate the backtrace. also, this is on a powerpc (g3)12:09
slavikchange the section with driver ati to that and remove the fglrx section12:09
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DreamerHxC1chage ati to fglrx?12:09
mcphailjimmypw: there is a "zombie" section in the screen manpage. Does that help?12:09
slavikDreamerHxC1: actually, instead of fglrx in the end, use ati, fglrx doesn't support your card anymore ... (unless you get the 8.28.8 driver)12:09
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slavikDreamerHxC1: scratch everything for now12:10
DreamerHxC1what=12:10
DreamerHxC1?12:10
Poromenos1how can i gzip a file from stdin12:10
Poromenos1?12:10
slavikDreamerHxC1: change the section with ati to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33557/12:10
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SeveasPoromenos1, gzip -12:10
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Seveas(the - means stdin)12:10
ortega10i'm looking for a gui-based personal backup tool, any suggestions?12:10
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Poromenos1Seveas: it says gzip: compressed data not written to a terminal. Use -f to force compression.12:10
slavikDreamerHxC1: and remove the fglrx section12:10
DreamerHxC1ok12:11
jimmypwmcphail: ill check12:11
DreamerHxC1and the other dvice section?12:11
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SeveasPoromenos1, gzip -f - > filename12:11
slavikDreamerHxC1: new fglrx doesn't support older ati cards (only X series cards)12:11
slavikDreamerHxC1: the fglrx section, remove it12:11
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DreamerHxC1oI don't understand12:11
Poromenos1Seveas: ah, that worked, thanks! can I also name the file inside the archive somehow?12:12
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slavikDreamerHxC1: fglrx does not support your video card12:12
SeveasPoromenos1, dunno, man gzip ;)12:12
DreamerHxC1which section do I remove? first device with "ati" or second with "fglxr"12:12
Poromenos1Seveas: ok, thanks :)12:12
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slavikthe second one12:12
DreamerHxC1ok12:12
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socrateshi all, I need to rip a cd into MP3s. Any free tools to do that efficiently?12:12
socratesit's not a copyright cd12:12
Seveassocrates, sound-juicer12:12
ortega10socrates: soundjuicer12:12
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socratesthanks12:13
DreamerHxC1so I just have http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33559/12:13
Seveassocrates, it's even installed by default ;)12:13
socratesyou mean using the extract button?12:13
DreamerHxC1right?12:13
ortega10socrates: it comes with ubuntu by default i think12:13
socratesoh ok  didn't realize that. thanks all :-)12:13
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ortega10socrates: anytime12:13
DoowI had a crappy set of frequencies for my monitor, edited my Xorg.conf, got better ones (e.g. 1024x768@85 Hz which is what I want) I installed Beryl which screwed that up(best then was 1024x768@64Hz), removed beryl, reverted Xorg.conf back to the old (good) one. But I can't get 1024x768@85Hz back, any ideas?12:13
slavikDreamerHxC1: change the identifier to the one from the fglrx section12:13
DekKeDanyone here uses Octave?12:13
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DreamerHxC1ok aticonfig-device12:14
slavikyes12:14
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ortega10i'm looking for a gui-based personal backup tool, any suggestions ?12:14
Seveasortega10, hubackup12:15
DreamerHxC1ok12:15
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ortega10Seveas: thanks12:15
DreamerHxC1and what now?12:15
slavikrestart X ...12:15
DoowLet me rephrase that, how can I get higher update frequency for my monitor? =)12:15
TuxN00bhey hey12:15
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DreamerHxC1slavik problems with X12:16
slavikwhat is the problem?12:16
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DreamerHxC1wait wait12:16
sn9Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33560/12:17
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scrambled2486how do i find out where a disk is currently mounted?12:17
DreamerHxC1ok restarting X12:18
Doowdf12:18
DreamerHxC1but this is not working12:18
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DreamerHxC1still freezed before desktop12:18
bimberiscrambled2486: df12:18
plesnivyjanois there any alternative in ubuntu for command "write" ?12:18
TuxN00bI have some questions about installation/partitioning12:18
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Seveassn9, that output seems incomplete12:18
sn9Seveas: what's missing? looks ok to me12:19
simmerzwhy wont the hostap driver install cleanly???12:19
Seveassn9, and try disabling assistive technologies/accessibility things12:19
slavikDreamerHxC1: hmm ... try a reboot12:19
DreamerHxC1ok12:19
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sn9Seveas: i'll have to log out for that, but now that you mention it, gok fails to start, complaining about a missing /dev/js012:20
DreamerHxC1slavik it worked, Im now in at the desktop but I know that if I reboot, it won't work again12:20
TuxN00bis it actually feasable to install ubuntu alongside a windows partition without having to format my harddrive and losing everything?12:20
Seveassn9, well, it's the backtrace of only one thread and the actual signal is missing ;)12:20
DreamerHxC1this already happened to me12:20
scrambled2486how can i get ntfs write support on the Live CD12:20
slavikDreamerHxC1: what won't work again?12:20
sn9Seveas: it's the thread that got the signal12:21
scrambled2486TuxN00b: yes12:21
Seveasscrambled2486, with a lot of pain and suffering12:21
DreamerHxC1everything12:21
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slavikDreamerHxC1: try to reboot again then12:21
Seveassn9, fair enough ;)12:21
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DreamerHxC1ok let's see12:21
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scrambled2486TuxN00b: the Ubuntu installer can resize windows partitions12:21
sn9Seveas: the top line refers to the illegal instruction12:21
scrambled2486Seveas: how much12:21
scrambled2486Seveas: and where do i go to receive this pain and suffering12:21
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Seveasscrambled2486, an awful lot12:21
scrambled2486Seveas: whatever, where do i go12:21
Seveasscrambled2486, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ntfs-3g12:22
DreamerHxC1as I said, this is not working again :)12:22
slavikDreamerHxC1: what error does it give?12:22
DreamerHxC1when it's going to work, it sounds like a session start sound12:23
newpZhi im running ubuntu and the latest xgl / beryl. with an ati card (direct rendering is working) when i switch sessions to xgl and fireup beryl manager everything crashes then hard locks.. does anyone know of a fix to this?12:23
DreamerHxC1nothing12:23
DreamerHxC1just it gets freezed before show desktop12:23
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DreamerHxC1i can switch to console or ctrl + alt + backspace12:23
TuxN00bif I resize my NTFS windows partition using the extra space it won't adversely affect my hard drive?12:23
slavikconsole12:24
DreamerHxC1im there12:24
slavikcat /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:25
TuxN00b?12:25
slaviklast few lines should say what happened12:25
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DreamerHxC1ok wait12:25
Seveas!xgl | newpZ12:25
ubotunewpZ: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:25
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cntbannoying -- issue ftp://zaban-bechor.co.il/samba-shr2-win-multiple-login.JPG12:26
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sn9Seveas: i'll give turning off assistive devices a try now, and then i'm going to thanksgiving dinner with family and friends of family, so i won't be able to report back until another day. which channel would be the best one to receive such a report?12:27
DreamerHxC1slavik this files has many suspicious lines...12:27
bimberiTuxN00b: it isn't designed to cause damage, but you should always have very good backups before attempting something of that sort12:27
Seveassn9, here12:27
slavikDreamerHxC1: like what?12:27
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DreamerHxC1for examble could not init font path elemnt, removing from list!12:27
TuxN00bthAnks12:27
TuxN00byea12:27
TuxN00bmainly docs are all i have to lose12:28
Seveassn9, or a private /msg :)12:28
sn9Seveas: to you? ok...12:28
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slavikDreamerHxC1: that is fine12:28
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DreamerHxC1ah ok12:28
DreamerHxC1can I see that log by parts?12:28
DreamerHxC1because I jsut can see last lines12:28
slavikDreamerHxC1: less the file12:28
slavikuse less instead of cat12:29
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sn9Seveas: well, later...12:29
Seveasciao12:29
DreamerHxC1many fonts.dir not found12:29
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slavikDreamerHxC1: those are usual, look for something that is screen not found or such12:30
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DreamerHxC1ok12:30
cntbannoying -- issue ftp://zaban-bechor.co.il/samba-shr2-win-multiple-login.JPG12:30
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utopihi, how do i format a hdd to ext3 filesystem?12:32
funkyHatutopi, you could use gparted to do it12:33
DreamerHxC1this has so many lines....12:34
bimberiutopi: or cli - 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda3'  (for example)12:34
slavikDreamerHxC1: yes it does12:34
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slavikDreamerHxC1: scroll through it, see if anything looks weird12:34
utopi"cli - 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdd" and my hdd becomes a whole new ext3 hdd?12:34
DreamerHxC1AIGLX?12:34
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DreamerHxC13d driver claims to not support visual 0x24?12:34
slavikDreamerHxC1: keep going12:34
DreamerHxC1ok12:34
slavikhmm, I think there was something in forums about it12:35
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slickyhi.. where can i find a nice howto 4 the free ati drivers ? :$12:35
DreamerHxC1render acceleration unsupported in radeon 9500 and newer, disabling render accel12:35
DreamerHxC1i can't see anything bad but im not a linux expert12:36
slavikDreamerHxC1: change the ati driver to radeon in xorg.conf12:36
bimberiutopi: no, you will need to partition it first - using gparted would be a better idea12:36
DreamerHxC1ok12:36
slickybut that means that u cant play any games with the radeon cards?12:36
Bilangeeww... for some reason, gnome's network-manager crashes when I start it. is there anyone with this issue? (OR:is there any way I can revert to basic/default network settings so network-manager can start again without crashing?)12:36
rioghalslicky,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:36
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utopibimberi: well i just used gparted12:36
utopiit took around 1 min12:37
utopican that be right?12:37
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timo90Hey how do you configure remote controls in linux12:37
bimberiutopi: yep, sounds about right - it's fairly quick - even for large drives12:37
utopiok cool12:38
utopihow do i find it?12:38
timo90I have a DVB remote12:38
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utopido i have to mount hdd1 or something?12:38
DreamerHxC1ok changed, im gonna reboot12:38
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slavikk12:38
cameronu guys running linux mint or ubuntu?12:38
bruenigubuntu12:38
bimberiutopi: yes, create a mountpoint (eg. 'sudo mkdir /media/hdd1' ) then mount it - 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /media/hdd1'12:38
bruenigxubuntu actually12:38
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utopiok thanks12:39
bimberiutopi: add an entry to /etc/fstab to make it mount at boot12:39
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tonewhats the easiest way to mount an iso?12:39
utopi:)12:39
tonevmplayer?12:39
utopibimberi: thank you12:39
bruenig!iso12:39
cameronburn image to disk12:39
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows12:39
bimberiutopi: np :)12:39
bimberi!mountiso12:39
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>"  -  bin/cue can be converted to ISO using !bchunk  -  ISO images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com  -  Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning12:39
rioghalim using windowmaker and i really like it. i see that the WDM (wings display manager) is in the repos. once i install wdm, how do i change my display manager?12:39
simmerzin the hostap kernel module, I'm trying to enable firmware downloads, and following this: http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/ , but when i uncomment the lines (remove the #) it refuses to compile.12:39
DreamerHxC1slavik not working12:39
slavikwhat is the error?12:39
toneawesome ty12:39
DreamerHxC1nothing, just desktop freezed12:40
bimberitone: oh good, you saw that (from ubotu)12:40
DreamerHxC1after login12:40
slavikDreamerHxC1: the logfile :)12:40
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DreamerHxC1ok wait12:40
tonehappy turkey day all12:40
slickyiv got a radeon 9600.. should i instal the free drivers or the ati drivers, what would work best 4 me?12:40
tonety for help12:40
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slavikslicky: the open source ones12:40
DreamerHxC1none works for me slicky12:40
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DreamerHxC1where's the log slavik ?12:41
slickyslavik:  kk , ill try it ;D12:41
slavik /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:41
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simmerzno one at all?12:41
DreamerHxC1I can't memorize the entire log but last lines seem to be the same12:42
slavikDreamerHxC1: fair enough12:42
utopibimberi: how can i write on my new ext3 hdd?12:42
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slavikDreamerHxC1: check /etc/X11 there should be another xorg.conf.something file ...12:42
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FuelBI get "Warning: Unable to load any usable ISO8859 font" when I try to run emacs, xfontsel or xfd...12:42
DreamerHxC1im sure there are a lot of12:42
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DreamerHxC1yeah, there're many xorg.conf hehehe12:43
slavikDreamerHxC1: gimmie the names of all of them12:43
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DreamerHxC1original0,original1,original2,fglrx0,fglrx1,fglrx2,fglrx3,fglrx4,fglrx5,20061123161655 and many more like the last12:44
FuelBanyone know how can I fix the font warning and make emacs display normal fonts?12:44
slavikthe one with the long string of numbers12:44
DreamerHxC1yeah12:44
DreamerHxC1there're a lot like that12:44
DreamerHxC1but with different numers12:45
slavikwell, that's the date12:45
DreamerHxC1yes, the date12:45
slavikyou do a lot of aticonfig?12:45
DreamerHxC1i've been two days like this12:45
slavikheh12:45
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DreamerHxC1so excuse me if now I hate linux and ati12:46
slavikok, well, do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and select all defaults (and choose the ati driver)12:46
SeveasDreamerHxC1, join the club12:46
DreamerHxC1ok but i've done this already many times before12:46
slavikDreamerHxC1: I don't like ATI either ... but for other reasons12:46
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DreamerHxC1hehe thanks Seveas :)12:46
ebaadI'm having flicker problem since I have installed the Edgy12:46
ebaadany suggestions please12:46
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slavikDreamerHxC1: we want to create a 'default' (not really) xorg.conf12:46
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DreamerHxC1do I let this to autodetect video hardware?12:47
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slavikyes12:47
ebaadMy screen is set for 1024X7678 @ 61 HZ resolution12:47
DreamerHxC1ok12:47
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ebaadany help will be really appreciated12:47
DreamerHxC1this has another identifier for my card, 960012:47
DreamerHxC1when my card is 955012:47
josehello12:47
soundrayebaad: that's a tall, tall screen ;)12:47
bruenig!hi | jose12:48
ubotujose: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:48
nblracerwhy when i do Zip -D i still get all the Directorys, in the Zip12:48
slavikit's fine ... they are almost the same12:48
globehi all12:48
josehi all12:48
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bruenig!hi | globe12:48
ubotuglobe: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!12:48
DreamerHxC1ok so all default settings12:48
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slavikDreamerHxC1: yes12:48
ebaadI'm sorry I mean to say 1024X768 @ 61 Hz12:48
DreamerHxC1and what about my monitor?12:48
joseis this the channel from which I can get help for my Ubuntu system ?12:48
globejose: yep12:48
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josecool12:49
slavikDreamerHxC1: all default12:49
DreamerHxC1ok, done12:49
DreamerHxC1what about now?12:49
ebaadWhen I had the dapper installed it the same hardware never had any issue12:49
slavikrestart X and all that12:49
slickyhm.. now my x server dosent start at all.. it says that i dont have a display..12:49
dv_can ubuntu handle multi-monitor setups?12:49
DreamerHxC1ok12:49
simmerzhas anyone flashed firmware on a prism2 device?12:49
josejust a simple one : I use the dictionnary, but have access only to the English one. Is there a way to get also the French one ?12:49
slavikdvyes12:49
slavikdv_: yes12:49
bruenigdv_, yes12:49
dv_does it require the same resolution on all monitors, or can they have individual ones?12:49
DreamerHxC1slavik restarting x is not working12:50
slavikdv_: they can be different ...12:50
slavikDreamerHxC1: and the log file?12:50
bruenig!info myspell-fr12:50
ubotumyspell-fr: The French dictionary for myspell (Hydro-Quebec version). In component main, is optional. Version 1.4-20 (edgy), package size 156 kB, installed size 620 kB12:50
dv_slavik, with or without xinerama12:50
dv_?12:50
DreamerHxC1when it worked I heard a sound like session start sound, does it matter?12:50
slavikdv_: no idea12:50
ebaadhello can somebody please help me12:50
slavikDreamerHxC1: that sound is amde by GDM12:50
ebaadwith the video display12:50
DreamerHxC1ah12:50
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bruenigjose, sudo apt-get install myspell-fr, if you didn't catch that12:50
ed_hello kids12:51
DreamerHxC1log seems to be the same12:51
joseok, thanks. I do it right now12:51
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bruenigjose, also if you need it for open office, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-l10n-fr12:51
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slavikhmm12:52
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DreamerHxC1yeah, not working even rebooting12:53
simmerzis no one able to help me get new firmware on my prism wireless card?12:53
slavikDreamerHxC1: in Server Layout section, add a line: Option "AIGLX" "Disabled"12:53
DreamerHxC1ok12:53
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globesimmerz: ...what card is it?, many are prisms12:53
josebruenig, I've done what you said12:53
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josebut my dictionary does not find french words ...12:54
Xaicewhich command displays the systemload12:54
DreamerHxC1I have no Server Layout section right now12:54
slavikXaice: top12:54
simmerzglobe: its a built in wireless unit. Intersil Prism 2.512:54
nblracerwhy when i do Zip -D i still get all the Directorys, in the Zip12:54
slavikDreamerHxC1: in very bottom of xorg.cong12:54
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slavikconf*12:54
DreamerHxC1oh yes12:54
slavikSection "ServerLayout"12:55
Vspiritare there tools for unpacking a self-extracting zip file (.exe) a windows file containing windows drivers for my wireless nic found on the vendors website. (for use with bcm43xx-fwcutter)12:55
simmerzI'm trying to modify the kernel source for the hostap driver to allow the PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT to work12:55
ebaadI really need help with the screen please12:55
adam__hi, i am having problems trying to run mysql, when i type mysql from the terminal i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) . any ideas anybody? :(12:55
globesimmerz: have you searched google for the computer model ... ex "Dell Inspiron 25310 ubuntu wireless"12:55
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ebaadI would really appreciate if somebody can help me with the flickering issue12:55
DreamerHxC1still not working12:56
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ebaadThe screen is still flickering as I'm typing this message12:56
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idigtal"Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International: Unknown device 4310"12:56
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adam__im running ubuntu 6.10 if that matters.12:56
simmerzglobe: its an old laptop. and it is nothing to do with the laptop itself. its to do with the firmware on the card. it needs updating but to do that i need to enable a couple of option in the kernel source. and Im not sure how to.12:56
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slavikhmm12:57
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asqueellaI'd like to make my system wake me up at the morning by playing loud music.12:57
newpZi i have an ati xpress 200M card.. i followed all the guides.. i hard lock everytime in XGL... im running ubuntu edgy... can anyone help me out12:57
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slavikDreamerHxC1: change the driver to vesa ... that should definitely work ...12:57
DreamerHxC1ok wait12:57
FuelBugh, I had to change font paths from /usr/share/X11/fonts to /usr/share/fonts/X11/ to get emacs to work12:57
asqueellait doesn't seem there are nice apps that can do this out of box, so I tried running rhytmbox <path to mp3> from a cron job, which didn't work12:57
globesimmerz: good.  sounds like you have a pretty good idea what needs to be done. I don't know how to help you, but if you rephrase you question, somebody probably does ;-)12:57
FuelBit seems xorg.conf has wrong font paths12:58
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simmerzglobe: I have done many times.12:58
GionnyBosshi all again :)12:58
slaviknewpZ: that's not a very powerful card ... try adding 'beryl-xgl' to the session startup program12:58
DreamerHxC1I bet it won't work12:58
simmerzglobe: I'm not a newbie. I know what I'm doing most of the time, but i'm stumped on this one.12:58
joseDo you know how I can get OpenOffice menu in French ?12:58
DreamerHxC1100$12:58
slavikDreamerHxC1: only one way to find out ;)12:58
DreamerHxC1I know :)12:59
jisatsuHow do I tell the exact version of the kernel I'm using? Apparently there's a bug in 2.6.17.1 - 2.6.17.7, and I need to know if mine (Edgy) is affected by it12:59
GionnyBossI have installed JDK Sun package (I need that for Netbeans) without uninstalling Sun JRE first... will I get some problems?12:59
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DreamerHxC1slavik could be my monitor?12:59
slavikGionnyBoss: you shouldn't12:59
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DreamerHxC1yep, not working12:59
slavikDreamerHxC1: shouldn't be your monitor12:59
slavikDreamerHxC1: check the log file ...12:59
slavikDreamerHxC1: did it ever work?12:59
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DreamerHxC1wo so so01:00
DreamerHxC1the log is different this time01:00
DreamerHxC1very different01:00
GionnyBossslavik, ok thanks... it's just that I checked /urs/lib/jvm dir... and it looks like JDK overwrote the JRE...01:00
slavikok, this is good01:00
DreamerHxC1slavik yes01:00
DreamerHxC1it works sometimes but when I reboot......01:00
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GionnyBossbut I wanted to keep JRE because I thought that without JRE, mozilla java plugin would not work01:00
slavikGionnyBoss: JDK includes JRE01:01
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asqueellals -l | grep 36143201:01
josedo somebody know and can tell me  how I can get OpenOffice menu in French ?01:01
asqueellaoops, sorry, the perils of multimon01:01
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wenkohey there01:01
GionnyBossslavik, I know that... just don't know the package dependencies for JRE mozilla plugin and I was not very sure what to do... anyways... I think that I won't have problem :)01:01
DreamerHxC1slavik so?01:02
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slavikDreamerHxC1: what does the log say?01:02
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DreamerHxC1for example01:02
slickyslavik: what about that howto u told me about b4?01:02
wenkoanyne able to help me out...Id like to install nmap on this ubuntu box but i dont have make...how do I get make01:02
DreamerHxC1GLX: initialized driver MESA-PROXY GL provider for screen 001:02
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ufoxhi all01:02
kitchewenko: sudo apt-get install build-esstenial01:02
slavikslicky: you need to use ati, not fglrx01:03
Harley-Dhow can i edit sources file for update in ubuntu01:03
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samuelsup all01:03
slavikDreamerHxC1: are you trying to get compiz/beryl to work?01:03
GionnyBossslavik, you look like an expert... can I ask you what can I do to change monitor gamma? I'm using xgamma, but when I restart it doesn't keep my gamma settings... I remember I let this work on Fedora, there was a command that I don't remember... can you help, please?01:03
vookI'm not too familiar with today's bootup process.  Other than /etc/rc2.d, where would I look to see what is loading at boot?  (to disable gdm, raid scripts, etc...) ??01:03
slavikGionnyBoss: I have no idea, sorry :(01:03
GionnyBossno problem01:03
samuelhow can i start/stop services in 6.10??? i dont know upstart01:03
GionnyBossthanks anyway ;)01:04
kitchevook: ubuntu scripts are in /etc/init.d01:04
DreamerHxC1slavik log doesn't says anything more about graphic or screen01:04
GionnyBossI ask here just because I googled for it with no success :(01:04
limoflaschehi, unfortunately im not good in linux and in chatting.so could please some1 tell me if there is a german ubuntu chat somewhere?01:04
slickyslavik: ye.. that done.. i followd the howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%28radeon%29#head-ba6d435f5620ddc29ae8af2c8cc09737aee0ffe7  and when i restart x it says that i dont have any display.. and it complaind on the nputDevice     "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"01:04
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vookkitche: they are located there, but not all are used.  It's the old debian way - /etc/inittab goes into runlevel 2 (/etc/rc2.d)  but other stuff is loading as well.01:04
DreamerHxC1but when I get to logon screen, it's showed with plenty of colours and a great resolution, which shouldn't be with vesa, right?01:04
ufoxI've lost my /boot partition, I've been looking for a solution in the internet, but nothing01:05
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slickyslavik: so i put # on the lines where it complaind.. and now the x server starts01:05
slavikDreamerHxC1: no always01:05
slavikslicky: that's ok01:05
DreamerHxC1oh01:05
ufoxI am looking for the vmlinuz and initrd files01:05
slaviks/no/not01:05
DreamerHxC1then im totally out of ideas01:05
kitchevook: which version of ubuntu are you using sicne Edgy doesn't follow the debian way to bootup01:05
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slavikvesa is a standards driver01:05
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slavikthe lowest common denominator driver01:06
DreamerHxC1oh i didn't know01:06
globelimoflasche: you can try ubuntu-de01:06
ufoxare both generics to download and put them in my partition?01:06
limoflaschehow can i go there?01:06
ufoxthanks and sorry abour my english01:06
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globelimoflasche: try typing /join #ubuntu-de01:07
jimmypwaaahhh i dont know whats going on, I was told not to worry about the load averages of my machine (server edition) but they keep going up and up and up load average: 13.99, 13.97, 13.5501:07
Harley-Dvi tells me /etc/apt/sources file is only read only how can i change this01:07
limoflaschethanks. im gonna try now, bye01:07
globeHarley-D: use sudo01:07
slavikHarley-D: use sudo vi :)01:07
Harley-Dthanks01:07
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asqueellasorry to repeat myself, but anyone knows how can I make ubuntu play music at a specified time?01:07
Harley-Dapperiate it :)01:07
kitchevook: but ubutnu has all initscripts in /etc/init.d/ to make gdm to not load you will have to go into /etc/init.d/ and chmod -x the gdm script01:08
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asqueellaI guess it didn't work out for me with cron and rhythmbox because rhythmbox is a gui app01:08
mcphailasqueella: use "at" or "cron"01:08
asqueellaand?..01:08
globeasqueella: try using mpg123 .... its a term mp301:08
vookkitche - Edgy.  Oops, nevermind.  I was looking in the high numbers in /etc/rc2.d for the gdm script.  It's actually /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm, I thought it would be higher in the process.  BTW, unless things in linux in general have changed, all scripts are located in /etc/init.d, then the runlevel is mentioned in /etc/inittab (2), which then heads off to /etc/rc2.d and processes all the S scripts there, just like executing the command 'init 0' loads the scripts in /etc/01:08
globeasqueella: its in apt01:08
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asqueellait didn't want to actually play the music01:08
asqueellatried that before rhythmbox :)01:08
slickyslavik: hm.. the 3d screen savers work now.. so maby it fixed?  but i cant change the screen resulution01:08
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asqueellasec01:08
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slavikslicky, using the ati driver? or fglrx?01:09
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DreamerHxCsorry01:09
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DreamerHxCslavik so any idea?01:09
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slickyslavik: ati01:09
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kitchevook: it depends ont eh system for example slackware doesn't use /etc/init.d at all01:09
amicrawlerdoes any body know where i can get  new stuff for beod01:09
asqueellaglobe: says it can't open default sound device01:09
simmerzim having a problem trying to update the firmware on my prism 2.5 wireless card. I can't for the life of me get PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT working in the kernel. can someone help me with getting it working please?01:10
amicrawlerdoes any body know where i can get  new stuff for beos01:10
slavikDreamerHxC ... no :(01:10
globeasqueella: do you have anything else using the sound card?01:10
DreamerHxCnothing like aticonfig or something like that?01:10
asqueellaglobe: thanks for answering by the way01:10
globeasqueella: np...01:10
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asqueellaoh, not again01:10
slickyslavik: how can i change the resulution? :$01:10
DreamerHxCoh01:10
slavikDreamerHxC: dpkg-reconfigure01:10
asqueellayeah, rhythmbox is playing in the background01:10
DreamerHxCagain=01:10
vookkitche still uses /etc/inittab though, anyway - thanks!01:10
DreamerHxC?01:10
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DreamerHxCand what do I choose now?01:10
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asqueellaI thought we were past those days when linux couldn't play two sounds simultaneously01:10
globeasqueella: as far as i know, with mpg123 you cant have anything else playing....01:10
asqueellaoh duh01:11
slavikslicky: make sure it's in xorg.conf01:11
asqueellathanks a lot01:11
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globeasqueella: n/p ;-)01:11
mcphailasqueella: i think you'll have to wait for feisty for that to be sorted01:11
slickyslavik: ok01:11
asqueellaI can swear I tried stopping rhythmbox before running mpg123 and it didn't work01:11
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josedo somebody know and can tell me  how I can get OpenOffice menu in French ?01:11
asqueellafor what?01:11
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DreamerHxCslavik which options do I choose now in dpgk-reconfigure?01:12
slickyslavik:01:12
mcphailasqueella: the next ubuntu release (or maybe the one after that - i can't remember)01:12
globeasqueella: you might have to exit rythm, I dont know how it handles its control over the soundcard01:12
slickysoz01:12
slavikxserver-xorg01:12
nasragielany ideas why edgy does not recognize the 2nd kernel? http://nopaste.php-q.net/25639401:12
slavikchoose the vesa driver ...01:12
appletonI just installed flash player for firefox 2. On edgy, and it wont stop crashing whenever i go to a page with flash on it. How can i just get rid of the flash plugin? I installed flash, btw, via the firefox popup that asks you to install macromedia flash player in order to view the page01:12
asqueellaglobe: yeah, it appears you're right01:12
asqueellathanks again01:12
slaviknasragiel: did you do sudo update-grub after installing new kernel?01:12
slickyslavik: when i type glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"  i get: libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b01:12
DreamerHxCyes but in graphic card, which chipset? ati again? do u want me to build a default xorg.conf?01:12
globeasqueella: np...01:12
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slavikslicky: check the forums01:13
josebye01:13
slickyslavik:  @ ubuntu.com? :o01:13
slavikDreamerHxC yes01:13
DreamerHxC....ok01:13
slavikslicky: ubuntuforums.org01:14
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appletonI just installed flash player for firefox 2. On edgy, and it wont stop crashing whenever i go to a page with flash on it. How can i just get rid of the flash plugin? I installed flash, btw, via the firefox popup that asks you to install macromedia flash player in order to view the page01:14
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DreamerHxCslavik with frambuffer?01:14
slavikyes01:14
asqueellanot that mpg123 can handle this particular mp3 well...01:14
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DreamerHxCok01:14
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slickyslavik: okey, thanks 4 all ur help ;D01:14
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nasragielslavik, no, ill try it but i guess thats not the problem01:15
globeasqueella: afik mpg123 is kindof ancient...but I don't actually know that01:15
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marshallhey guys01:15
marshallhow do you make thunar the default file manager01:15
dabaRappleton: ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ see whether there is a libflashplugin...01:15
DreamerHxCslavik done01:15
marshall?01:15
Davieywhat msn client can i use that has stable webcam support?01:15
jonoby the way folks  - everyone blog about the Ubuntu Open Week - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek01:15
marshallDaviey, amsn is alright i guess01:16
Davieymarshall, have you got the webcam support to work?  i only get a grey screen01:16
appletondabar: i see no libflash01:16
nasragielslavik, and the kernel is there01:16
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marshallDaviey, i have before, but its been a while01:16
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dabaRappleton:  ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/01:16
marshallDaviey, i cant imagine the webcam support got worse01:16
superhelp01:17
linuxclubheeeeeeiiiiiii01:17
Davieymarshall, oh okay. thanx01:17
marshallDaviey, ok01:17
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appletondabar: nothing there either01:17
superdoes ndiswrapper use .exe drivers?01:17
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marshallsuper, no01:17
supercrap01:17
simmerzim having a problem trying to update the firmware on my prism 2.5 wireless card. I can't for the life of me get PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT working in the kernel. can someone help me with getting it working please?01:17
supertheres linux drivers for my card but they are way to hard install01:18
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DreamerHxCslavik i did dpkg-reconfigure but not working01:18
slavikhmm ...01:18
dabaRappleton: are you from Jamaica?01:18
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globeasqueella: I am told you can use mp3blaster too01:19
DreamerHxCand log is the same01:19
appletondabar: negative01:19
marshalldoes anybody know how to set thunar as the default file manager instead of nautilus?01:19
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kitchesuper: well it does and it doesn't you have to unzip the .exe file01:19
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DreamerHxCand maybe again with glrx?01:19
slavikDreamerHxC what are some of the last thigns the log says regarding errors in graphics?01:19
asqueellaglobe: thanks.. gotta go to sleep now, otherwise no music will be able to wake me up tomorrow :)01:20
slavikDreamerHxC try it ...01:20
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slavikmake sure it's loaded though01:20
DreamerHxCagain :(01:20
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dabaRappleton: open firefox, click Edit>Preferences>Content>Manage button under file types, see whether removing something there helps.01:20
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wimpiesI might have found a bug in php 5.1 but before I can report it I need to upgrade to 5.2 ... Any packages ?01:21
globeasqueella: good luck w/ alarm!01:21
DreamerHxCdo I have to do it like in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?01:21
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slavikyea01:21
DreamerHxCok01:21
arsalanhi all01:21
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GionnyBossI think I made it for monitor gamma :) I'm trying to reboot01:21
GionnyBosslaterz01:21
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dabaRappleton: try "locate libflashplayer.so" maybe it will give you a result.01:22
appletondabar: still crashes.01:22
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thompahow do i create a launcher for an html link and have it open in Konqueror01:22
thompain gnome that is01:22
appletondabar: cant find any libflashplayer.so01:22
dabaRappleton: try cat .mozilla/pluginreg.dat see whether it talks about flash01:23
Paradox-UbuntuHello everyone, the system documentation is not accurate in telling me how to mount my NTFS partitions... I dont have "disk" in my " System>Administration> " section... is there another way to mount the NTFS partitoins?01:23
appletondabar: there IS a libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins/01:24
LjLUbotu, please tell Paradox-Ubuntu about ntfs | Paradox-Ubuntu, you have a private message from Ubotu01:24
appletondabar: along with "flashplayer.xpt"01:24
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thompai think if i change web browser to konqeror i am ok01:24
DreamerHxCslavik how can I make sure it's loaded?01:24
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slaviklsmod | grep fglrx01:24
Paradox-Ubuntuthanks for that LjL01:24
slavikit should print stuff01:24
DreamerHxCnoting happens01:25
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slavikno output? then it's not loaded01:25
DreamerHxCno output01:25
DreamerHxChow do I load it?01:25
slaviksudo modprobe fglrx01:25
thompano real player is working in firefox, complaines of totem01:25
GionnyBossslavik, just for your curiosity... I edited xorg.conf file and gamma now it's ok even when I restart ;)01:25
thompaTotem could not play 'rtsp://rmv8.bbc.net.uk/radio..01:25
DreamerHxCerror running install commando for fglrx01:25
slavikGionnyBoss: I don't really know what to say ...01:26
DreamerHxCfiregl_stub_register failed01:26
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GionnyBossahahah01:26
slavikDreamerHxC did you do the module-assistant stuff in the howto01:26
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DreamerHxCyes I did01:26
GionnyBossslavik, you don't have to say nothing... just I wanted to tell you that I resolved my problem ;)01:26
arsalancould any body tell me how to play rm files in xmms01:26
appletonDabar: I got it to work by deleting the files in the .mozilla/plugins folder. thanks for your help!01:26
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arsalancould any body tell me how to play rm files in xmms01:27
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DreamerHxCok, have you seen? this time it booted ok01:29
DreamerHxCi heard the session start sound and I can log into graphic mode01:29
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DavieyHi, anybody using a logitech 4000 pro webcam?01:30
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slavikDreamerHxC: what driver?01:30
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DreamerHxCfglrx01:30
slavikglxinfo|gre direct in terminal01:31
slavikgrep*01:31
DreamerHxCdirect rendering: yes01:31
slaviksweet!!!!01:31
SonicvanaJrCOuld someone help me with the following error when trying to sudo,  sudo: must be setuid root01:31
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DreamerHxClsmod | grep fglrx has fglrx and agpgart with fglrx,nvidia_gp01:31
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DreamerHxCwait, I still have to reboot :)01:32
slavikgood01:32
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DreamerHxCdo u need anything more while im in graphic mode?01:32
ReTyPei just found a nice shortcut: ctrl + printscreen + o01:32
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slavikpastebin your xorg.conf01:32
stalefriesReTyPe: what does t do?01:32
DreamerHxCok wait01:32
cmwebHow do i create a symbolic link?01:32
Harley-Dhow to get C compiler01:32
cmweb!symbolic link01:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about symbolic link - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:32
slavikln -s01:32
stalefries!man ln01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about man ln - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
slavik!ln01:33
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands01:33
superis ubuntu meant to just auto work with drivers01:33
stalefriesthat's not helpful :)01:33
ReTyPealan: it tells apm to shut down pc immediatly01:33
superi mean auto work with wifi cards01:33
cmweb!list01:33
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:33
stalefriesReTyPe: ooh01:33
rogue780!lirc01:33
ubotulirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB01:33
rogue780!ivtv01:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ivtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:33
DreamerHxCslavik http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33575/01:33
rogue780! your mom01:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about your mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:34
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stalefriesrogue780: no, !ivtv hasn't been added yet01:34
Harley-Dhow to get C compiler  need to install vmware tools?01:34
arsalanexit01:34
stalefries:)01:34
LjLcmweb: man ln01:34
rogue780thanks01:34
cmwebHow do i create a symbolic link01:34
cmwebk01:34
cmwebthanks ljl01:34
stalefriesHarley-D: sudo apt-get install build-essential01:34
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Harley-Dstalefries,  thank you :)01:34
DavieyAnybody having problems with webcams and pure greyness?01:34
stalefriesDaviey: some have, yes, there's a howto on ubuntuforums.org about that01:35
DreamerHxCoh god I can execute the ATI Control01:35
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DreamerHxCdriver version 8.31.0501:35
stalefriesDaviey: I'll dig up a link for you01:35
Davieystalefries, yes please!01:35
rogue780stalefries, any idea if they're planning on adding it?01:35
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dabaRrogue780: he denies knowing anything about your mom :D01:35
stalefriesrogue780: do you know what it is? if you do, you can go to #ubuntu-ops and request it01:35
rogue780:)01:35
rogue780will do01:36
cmwebljl, i do it like man ln /media/hda3 /home/clint/Desktop/Harddisk?01:36
LjLUbotu, please tell harley-D about build-essential | harley-D, you have a private message from Ubotu01:36
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Nlyt1there is something fishy going on.. the app "dd" starts for no reason and takes up 50% of my cpu, if im lucky ill get to kill it before it freezes my pc, there is also "klogd" taking up 40% or so, they both seem to launch at the same time, ive just killed them both and now "gzip" is running 96% cpu :| what the hell is it doing? :S01:36
LjL!fishing01:36
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:36
DreamerHxCdoes everyone ATI Control in desktop setup let you choose between two monitors? because I just have one monitor01:36
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stalefriesDaviey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=282748&highlight=edgy+grey+webcam01:36
Harley-Dljl thanks01:36
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Davieystalefries, THANX01:36
LjLcmweb: no. you type "man ln"01:36
stalefriesDaviey: no prob :)01:37
LjLcmweb: that explains how to create a symbolic link01:37
dabaRcmweb: man is a command that shows a manual for the command that comes after it, so man ln shows ln's manual01:37
LjLcmweb: anything that starts with the "man" command is just a manual page. you should know that by now01:37
cmwebljl, oh  i feel stupid now01:37
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dabaRLjL: you know how old cmweb is?01:37
DreamerHxCslavik can I reboot now? if this time this doesn't work, I give up01:37
bimbericmweb: 'ln -s /media/hda3 /home/clint/Desktop/Harddisk'01:37
LjLdabaR: how could i?01:37
cmwebTHANK you01:37
dabaRLjL: he could have mentioned...01:37
LjLcmweb: the "-s" option, as someone has mentioned, is what you want01:38
Nlyt1there is something fishy going on.. the app "dd" starts for no reason and takes up 50% of my cpu, if im lucky ill get to kill it before it freezes my pc, there is also "klogd" taking up 40% or so, they both seem to launch at the same time, ive just killed them both and now "gzip" is running 96% cpu :| what the hell is it doing? :S01:38
cmwebthanks evey one01:38
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dabaRNlyt1: oooh dd is a copy command...01:38
dabaRNlyt1: see man dd01:39
mcphailNlyt1: have you installed a backup script?01:39
cmwebljl, you dont know i could have sworn id told you how old01:39
Nlyt1dabaR: yes i know what it is, but there is no reason why it should 1) start running for no reason and 2) why it takes 98% cpu sometimes01:39
Nlyt1mcphail: not that i know if, fresh install yesterday01:39
yabbai have a question. how can i restart my sound system. it seems to be blocked and cant give out music01:39
morphishok, so how old is cmweb since it seems to matter so much!?01:40
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dabaRyabba: edgy?01:40
yabbanewest ubuntuyes01:40
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dabaRmorphish: does not matter so much, I just find it cool01:40
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dabaRyabba: run lsof /dev/dsp and show output if any01:41
DreamerHxCslavik didn't work :(01:41
Paradox-Ubuntucan i put a password on folders to prevent users from accessing the folder>?01:41
morphishdabaR: so he is like some grufty old person?01:41
yabbadabaR, its the old problem with flash and the sound system. they two have problems, if they get each other in the way. now it happened. if the system is restarted it should be fine01:41
yabbaok01:42
dabaRParadox-Ubuntu: you can set up permissions on the folder, man chmod if you want01:42
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Paradox-Ubuntuchmod?01:42
dabaRmorphish: no, a teenager.01:42
stalefriesParadox-Ubuntu: or just Right-click, Properties01:42
simmerzim having a problem trying to update the firmware on my prism 2.5 wireless card. I can't for the life of me get PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT working in the kernel. can someone help me with getting it working please?01:42
mcphailParadox-Ubuntu: right click on the folder and change the permissions so that only you can read and write to it01:42
Paradox-Ubuntuyeah it isn't giving me an option to set a password..01:42
yabbadabaR, nspluginv 16540 tobsen   14u   CHR   14,3      7648 /dev/dsp01:42
Paradox-Ubuntuyeah... ok01:43
Paradox-Ubuntuthanks01:43
mcphailParadox-Ubuntu: chmod is the command which will do that from the command line01:43
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dabaRParadox-Ubuntu: no passwords, permissions to only allow you to...01:43
dabaRyabba: kill the process. kill -9 16540 I think01:43
HalphaZhi01:43
HalphaZwhat time is there?01:43
yabbaah, what exactly is this dev/dsp?01:43
yabbathankies01:43
blindHalphaZ: where?01:43
dabaRHalphaZ: run date01:43
stalefries!hi | HalphaZ01:43
ubotuHalphaZ: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!01:43
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mzli!perl01:44
ubotuperl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB01:44
morphishdabaR: seems like a prime subject to go and try linux, i find it much more interesting to see 50+ people go try linux for first time01:44
dabaRyabba: the file representation of the sound device01:44
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yabbathank you01:44
superwhats the command to move a file to another directory01:44
mzli!locale01:44
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf01:44
marshalldoes anybody know an easy way to setup the mac menubar thing?01:44
blind!msg the bot01:44
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:44
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GionnyBosscan anybody help me with letting my printer work, please? it is connected to my router print server... I had difficulties on setting that on Fedora too... but maybe someone can help me setting it up with Ubuntu :)01:44
marshallor how to make thunar the default file manager instead of nautilus01:45
superwhats the command to move a file to another directory01:45
yabbadabaR, it didnt work though ;)01:45
blindsuper: mv01:45
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Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help?01:45
superplease with sugar on top01:45
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superthx01:45
blindmarshall: using gnome?01:45
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yabbait worked for OSS sound, but not the sound the flash applet uses i think01:45
mzliGionnyBoss, localhost:63101:46
marshallblind, yeah GNOME01:46
blindmarshall: go to system, preferences, preferred applications01:46
GionnyBossmzli, I'm trying with that now... with cups web interface... and all seems to be setted in the right way, but printer doesn't work01:46
dabaRyabba: the flash plugin was not letting go of the sound device01:46
bimberiGionnyBoss: what make/model router/print-server?01:46
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mzliGionnyBoss, I'v setting succeed from that page.01:46
marshallblind, im here, but  dont see anything that can help me01:47
blindmarshall: you wanted thunar instead of firefox, right?01:47
mzliGionnyBoss, Just google an howto.01:47
GionnyBossbimberi, Samsumg ML-1520 (that works if plugged via USB) and US robotics router01:47
Peps_I am running dapper01:47
burningmyhairwhats the command to get from text mode to graphical?01:47
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blinderrr, nautilus01:47
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marshallblind, thunar is a file manager like nautilus01:47
DreamerHxCslavik thank you so much for your help. I hope to see you again. bye01:47
yabbadabaR, how can i make it let go?;)01:47
dabaRyabba: still same output of lsof01:47
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yabbadabaR, No. lsof is clean01:48
GionnyBossmzli, the problem is that printer URL is http://routerIPaddress:1631/printers/printername ... that damn 1631 port... I guess that this is the problem01:48
dabaRand sound still no worky?01:48
yabbadabaR, but i also think the flash applet somehow still occupies some sound device that is why i want to restart it01:48
yabbasound works for mp3s which i play with xmms which uses OSS01:48
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mzliGionnyBoss, I've no idea of that. sorry.01:48
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bimberiGionnyBoss: hm, i have a print-server/switch (Linksys PSUS4) and it uses a LPD print queue.  So my knowledge probably won't help you01:48
yabbabut not within the flash plugin01:48
yabbahow can i kill the flash plugin ;)01:49
burningmyhairive managed to press a hotkey that leads me into text mode twice... and i dont know how to get back to the graphical interface...01:49
DekKeDanyone here uses Octave?01:49
bimberiburningmyhair: ctrl-alt-f701:49
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bimberiburningmyhair: ctrl-alt-f1 to f6  switches to the virtual terminals01:49
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burningmyhairthank you so much, bimberi :D:D01:49
GionnyBossbimberi, yeah I think that it's different. my print server uses IPP via HTTP01:49
stalefriesburningmyhair: ctrl+alt_F{1-6} is text01:49
bimberiburningmyhair: np :)01:49
GionnyBosswell, thanks a lot anyway01:50
GionnyBoss:)01:50
bimberiGionnyBoss: ah, np :)01:50
Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help? I am running dapper01:50
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dabaRyabba: it was killed. show ps aux on a pastebin.01:51
burningmyhairis there any way to get a window to roll up to the title bar with a right click on it?01:51
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TheMoleHi, I just upgraded from dapper to edgy and now I don't get any sound through firefox. I tried adding firefoxdsp="aoss" to the rc file and downloading alsa-oss but it still isn't having any of it. Anybody have any ideas?01:51
dabaRburningmyhair: the openbox window manager allows rolling up and down with the scroll wheel01:51
Davieystalefries, That worked a treat! thanx01:52
stalefriesDaviey: good to know, but have no idea what I told you! :)01:52
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ihavenoname Buenas01:52
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dabaRihavenoname: buenas01:52
burningmyhairhmm.. worth to check out. thanx dabar!01:52
Davieystalefries, the grey webcam issue01:52
stalefriesDaviey: ah, good01:53
stalefriesDaviey: it worked well?01:53
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dabaRburningmyhair: you can run openbox as a session of its own(no desktop, no panel, no nothing, just what you want to add...or as part of gnome. You can run openbox in a terminal in gnome session to get it as the window manager temporarily, for permanent, search ubuntuforums for "openbox stormy eyes"01:53
Davieystalefries, well seems so.  I'm try to get it working on somebody else's computer by remote logging in.  They went to bed and turned out all the lights,  Therefore all i see is black, but different shades.  so i guess it's working!  ;)01:54
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stalefriesDaviey: lol01:54
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sc0tt_hm01:54
sc0tt_is it possible to place links to smb shares on the desktop?01:55
dabaRsc0tt_: how do you connect to them?01:56
sc0tt_usually via places > network01:56
sc0tt_but I can connect any way needed01:56
sc0tt_:)01:56
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sc0tt_also, all programs on the machine need to access the files01:57
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sc0tt_such a movies/music01:57
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sc0tt_maybe i'll install smbfs01:57
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dabaRsc0tt_: open gconf-editor, and go to apps>nautilus>desktop and see whether there is a check in volumes visible01:57
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Davieywhats the best way to make an application start on login.  ie 'aMsn'?01:58
burningmyhairhmm... got two more problems, sure they are pretty common. no sound in flash videos in firefox. and the java runtime plugin to firefox.01:58
dabaRDaviey: system>prefs>session01:58
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sc0tt_it is dabaR01:58
DavieydabaR, thanx01:58
dabaRsc0tt_: well, don;t know then01:59
burningmyhairhm install the java plugin that is01:59
dabaR!java01:59
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository01:59
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dabaR!flash01:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:59
bruenig!fishing01:59
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)01:59
burningmyhairthx01:59
dabaRbruenig: not sure how that is fishing01:59
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dabaRsee in restricted formats for flash sound problems01:59
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Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help? I am running dapper02:00
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ryanakcafor "BASE", where is the ADODB located?02:02
burningmyhairhow to get the full application list?02:02
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dabaRburningmyhair: sorry, what? in synaptic?02:02
burningmyhairexactly02:02
ryanakcaburningmyhair: full application list? of installed apps? available apps?02:02
burningmyhairin synaptics02:03
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burningmyhairmultiverse or what its called02:03
dabaRburningmyhair: you can click settings repositories or the like.02:03
dabaR!repos02:03
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource02:03
ryanakcaburningmyhair: of installed applications or available applications?02:03
dabaRburningmyhair: first link02:03
burningmyhairthx02:03
dabaRryanakca: ya, the q was not clear...02:03
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ryanakcaburningmyhair: if you want to get the list of installed applications, open up Terminal and go "dpkg -l | grep ii". If you wish to see the available applications with your current repositories, go "dpkg -l". If you wish to browse the repositories, http://packages.ubuntu.com02:04
dabaRryanakca: what is "BASE"?02:04
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ryanakcaBasic Analysis and Security Engine02:05
dabaRscary;)02:05
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ryanakcalol02:06
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cmwebljl, how do i become a member of a group02:06
zackcan anyone explain bcm43xx-fwcutter a bit better02:06
dabaRcmweb: sudo adduser user group02:06
steve_does anyone here know how to restart alsa on edgy?02:06
dabaRzack: did you read the readme?02:06
burningmyhairthx, ryanakca!02:06
LjLcmweb: what dabaR said. but didn't we go through this already?02:06
zackyeah02:06
LjLcmweb: perhaps you want to write this stuff down02:06
cmwebljl, Il start a book soon just wait02:07
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cmwebdabaR, "sudo clint clint www-data"?02:07
LjLcmweb: no02:08
supermy cisco systems aronet 350 is going to kill me02:08
LjLcmweb: sudo adduser clint www-data02:08
dabaRsteve_: maybe sudo invoke-rc.d alsa-utils restart02:08
cmwebgrr..02:08
LjLcmweb: make sure "www-data" is the right group though. "ls -l /var/www" will tell you02:08
dabaRLjL: not if there is anything there... -ld02:08
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LjLdabaR: oh, whops02:08
LjLcmweb: use ls -ld /var/www02:09
dabaRwell, being there or not really does not matter, actually02:09
cmwebdrwxrwxrwx 3 clint root 4096 2006-11-23 19:30 /var/www02:09
LjL*sigh*02:09
dabaRcmweb: change the permissions and owner:))02:09
cmwebljl, sigh02:09
LjLwhy did you chown it?!02:09
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LjLwhy? why? why?02:09
LjLwhat did i tell you, last time you chowned /var?02:09
cmwebljl, I know but i didnt touch anything else I PROMISE02:10
LjLcmweb: does NOT matter. you shouldn't have touched THAT02:10
cmwebljl, it still works.....02:10
LjLfine then.02:10
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dabaRcmweb: that is unsecure, those permissions. sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www;sudo chmod 771 /var/www02:11
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dabaRwhat is pouts02:11
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cmwebljl, ok sorry02:12
dabaRoh, I get it02:12
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dabaRan expression of unhapiness02:12
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LjLcmweb: "sorries" don't make your machine secure, nor fix it if you break it02:12
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cmwebi wana get so pissed off right now and i cant02:13
cmwebdrwxrwx--x 3 www-data www-data 4096 2006-11-23 19:30 /var/www02:13
LjL!language | cmweb02:13
ubotucmweb: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:13
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burningmyhair!flash02:14
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:14
cmwebP|o|e|d is a cus word i had no idea02:14
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mercoledihoola?02:14
josoriohola...02:14
josoriode donde eres?02:14
morachola que tal02:14
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moracVenezuela02:14
dabaRgracias a la vida02:14
dabaR!es02:14
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:14
LjL!es | mercoledi, josorio, morac02:14
ubotumercoledi, josorio, morac: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:14
josorioyo tambien......de maracay..02:14
mercoledihola,hola02:15
mercoledide Barcelona02:15
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cmwebljl, tell me why this is happening http://cmweb.zapto.org/ZPanel/02:15
ClockyCould someone guide me on how to install java and get it working with firefox in 6.10?02:15
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LjLcmweb: doesn't connect02:16
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cmwebhu02:16
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josoriomercoledi.....02:16
cmwebthe firewall02:16
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dabaRcmweb: firewall or router?02:17
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cmwebljl, ok its disabled i got to create a thing on it please try again02:17
cmwebfirewall02:17
cmwebi have no router02:17
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LjLcmweb: well, i have no idea, i don't even know what this ZPanel is02:17
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Peps_Hi, my laptop stopped automounting and poping a konqurer window when I plug in a usb storage device. I think this happened after I upgraged to KDE 3.5.5. I assume I am missing some setting - can someone help? I am running dapper02:17
dabaRjosorio:  por favor usen #ubuntu-es para Espaol ayuda :)02:17
cmwebljl, its for my hosting02:18
ebaadhello, I need help with configuring the display with Edgy, that I just installed02:18
cmwebljl, but ok02:18
dabaRebaad: configuring how?02:18
monitorhi, I'm in a hurry wha'ts the command to install all devel packages?02:18
cmwebljl, what about the last lines02:18
ebaadthe screen is flickering02:18
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LjLmonitor: *all* devel packages? probably not a good idea for your bandwidth02:18
dabaRmonitor: all devel packages? the essentials for compiling02:18
ferret0567Does anybody have a ASUS P5B Deluxe mobo with a Intel Core 2 Duo CPU installed? I want to know if it will work with Ubuntu 6.1002:18
LjLcmweb, i have no way to know02:18
ebaadI dont know how to find the current resolution02:18
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cmwebi got to find a new script....02:19
ebaadcan u please help me with this issue02:19
monitorI'm getting this in a Manhattan build: make: *** No rule to make target `../lib/libneo.so', needed by `main_menu'.  Stop.02:19
cmwebWho knows of a Free Webhosting script such as CPanel?02:19
dabaRebaad: Ubuntu with the gnome desktop has a System>Preferences>Screen or Resolution applet02:19
monitorIt's an 6.10 server.02:19
ebaadthe same HW with Breezy was working fine02:19
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ebaadIt says 1280X1024@6102:20
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evilmegamanhi, How would I transfer data from my phone to my laptop and vice versa?02:20
evilmegamanvia bluetooth02:21
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ebaadHi Dabar any suggestion02:21
ebaadPlease02:21
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designdreamcmatrix is awesome!02:21
burningmyhairthank you so much for all your help :D you're like... arch angels of linux :D02:21
ferret0567Is that mobo really not going to work with Ubuntu?02:21
dabaRebaad: what says that resolution?02:22
ferret0567Ubuntu 6.10 to be exact02:22
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dabaRmonitor: it has some info here: http://manhattan.sourceforge.net/?Documentation:README_Files:INSTALL under step 602:22
ebaadit is 1280X1024 @ 61 Hz02:22
dabaRmonitor: also, libneo.so does not exist in edgy or dapper02:22
ebaadthe screen is continously flickering02:22
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dabaRmonitor: also, there is a clearsilver-dev package, so I am not sure what the relationship is with what you are installing02:23
cmwebWho knows of a Free WHM manager?02:23
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lucahi everyone02:23
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dabaR!fixres > ebaad02:23
monitorGuys you're so gentle, I'm gonna test it...02:23
cmweb!WHM02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about WHM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
lucadoes anyone know how to make webcams work on ubuntu? the wiki page and forums were no help :(02:24
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cmweb!webcans02:24
iturkhi there i have add a user with useradd but now i cannot do login with that user or to delete it using dropuser if i try to create it using adduser it says that i user already exists !! how can i delete it ??02:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webcans - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:24
cmweb!webcams02:24
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras02:24
evilmegaman!bluetooth02:25
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup02:25
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metresHi all, anyone know why I got this error : sudo: nspluginwrapper: command not found ?02:26
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green_earziturk: sudo deluser user-name02:26
lucacmweb thanks...I will check the second link., but the first was no help :(02:26
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dewboy3diturk, what was the exact command you used for useradd?02:26
dabaRmetres: where did you get it?02:26
cmwebDoes any one know of a free WHM?02:27
cmwebluca, k02:27
sc0tt_interesting02:27
snypewhm?02:27
dabaRcmweb: what is it?02:27
cmwebWeb Hosting Manager02:27
metresdabaR : sudo nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins32/libflashplayer.so command line02:27
sc0tt_why can't you remove evolution?02:27
sc0tt_:|02:27
snypeapache + lamp is free02:27
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dabaRmetres: why did you run that command?02:27
dabaRsc0tt_: you could, why not?02:28
metresdabaR  : to install flash02:28
sc0tt_it removes ubuntu-desktop :/02:28
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soobnaucei have ubuntu and windows xp installed on my main hdd.  ubuntu is installed on the front of the hdd.  but i seem to have not installed a bootloader, so my computer automatically boots windows without prompting me to choose which operating system to boot.  what can i do to get the prompt?02:28
dabaRmetres: where did you see that command? maybe you need to run sudo ./nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins32/libflashplayer.so02:28
dabaRsc0tt: that will not break anything, it is just a list of packages in the common ubuntu-desktop system, of which evolution is a part of.02:29
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sc0ttalright02:29
dabaR!grub> soobnauce02:29
lucacmweb: I really do not understand what I should do with this page: http://gkall.hobby.nl/pac20x.html02:29
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lucaI think it is the right one, but I have no clue about what to do with it02:29
metresdabaR : didnt work I saw it in many Tutorials for flash installation on amd6402:29
dabaRmetres: nspluginwrapper is a program that probably comes with some download in those tutorials. Did you read the restrictedformats page of the wiki?02:30
cmwebluca, http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html Which is yours02:31
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soobnaucenevermind, ubotu sent me a link.   thx02:31
lucacmweb: pixart imaging - I have already installed the spca5xx and still does not function02:31
dabaRsoobnauce: welcome02:32
metresdabaR: dont know this page... i look for it02:32
dabaR!restricted > metres02:32
lucacmweb: it is not on hte list, but the link I have sent to you should be the right one for the pac files - but I do not know what to do with them02:32
kamuihow might I go about searching a bunch of source files for a definition?02:32
cmwebluca, Is their a read me in the file?02:33
kamuiIm looking for a specific variable declaration in someone elses sourcecode, but I don't know what file to look in, its not in the most likely suspect02:33
kamuis02:33
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dabaRkamui: does cat file|grep def help?02:34
dabaRkamui: oh, declaration of a variable, grep <variableName>02:34
kamuidabar, let me give it a shot02:34
lucacmweb nope for the pac files, that is why I do not know how to use them02:34
dabaRkamui: do you understand the placeholders there?02:34
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TrixseyAnyone here experiencing problems with Azureus?02:35
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kamuidabar: yes02:35
cmwebluca, im not really the one to ask i have gone as far as i could. Any one else pick up where i left off?02:35
kamuidabar: cat *.cpp | grep "forwardmove"02:36
dabaRkamui: awesome:)02:36
kamuibut it doesn't tell me the name of the file its in02:36
kamui:(02:36
dabaRkamui: ya, I had that too:))02:36
kamui:-D02:36
dabaRkamui: one by one:(02:36
lucacmweb: thx anyway02:36
Misnixkamui,  ,  dabaR, the cat part is one step to many, just do  grep string file(s)   or   grep "string1|string2" file(s)02:36
luca:)02:36
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Chousukeuseless use of cat. :)02:37
kamuilol:02:37
dabaRMisnix: Ya, I was aware of it being extra, but too lazy to look up grep syntax, thanks.02:37
green_earzTrixsey: as it been working ?02:37
TrixseyIt starts up, then it closes down automatically02:37
kamuiawesome02:37
Trixsey2-3 seconds after start02:37
Trixseylol02:37
kamuitaht works perfectly02:37
kamuijust the grep command02:37
kamuithanks guys02:37
kamuilists all the files that contain what02:38
evilmegamanHi does anyone know how to transfer files from my laptop to my mobile phone via bluetooth?02:38
green_earzTrixsey: if you can start it from a terminal to see if it put out a error message02:38
dabaRkamui: so it shows where it is? FTW...02:39
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kamuidabar: yes, it shows each line, and then the filename its in on the left02:39
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kamuididn't know grep could do that02:39
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kamuiget better with this os every day02:39
kamuibtw, happy thanksgiving to all who celebrate02:40
kamui:)02:40
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Misnixkamui, add a -n and you'll get linenumbers too02:40
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Pelogrep ?02:40
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ebaadHi Dabar, I ran that sudo command and I had to restart the server again and the screen is still flickering, please help02:40
dabaRgrep is cool:) part of the magic of the command line, really02:40
Misnixkamui, and you could use regexps on both filenames and search terms02:40
dabaRebaad: what is the exact make and model of the monitor?02:41
ebaadit is a sony lcd02:41
Peloebaad,   crt ?02:41
kamuimisnix: thanks, your initial grep worked perfectly for what I needed, just needed to find out some info on how quakepsp handles side movements so I can add the option to strafe using the analog stick ;)02:41
Pelonvm02:41
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Tarkushey guys. i have been a windows user for a while now. and i am strongly suggesting the switch to linux. i love all the open-source software that i use on windows (firefox, openoffice, xchat) but i need to have adobe products and autodesk 3DSMax. is there a possibility that in the future these software companies will start developing for linux?02:41
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Zylcheperhaps wine or cadega will run it?02:42
ebaadits a sony Lcd please help. Thanks.02:42
TerminusTarkus: ask them, not us. =)02:42
Zylche:)02:42
dewboy3dTarkus: always a possibility but i wouldn't hold me breath... there's alternatives though02:42
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PeloTarkus,  you guess is as good as ours,  but you can try running them on wine ,   not sure about the autodesk one, I can tell you acad 2005 up don'T work on it02:43
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TerminusTarkus: maybe blender3d would be an ok alternative for you in place of 3DSMax02:43
Misnixkamui, "man grep" is your friend </rant>  :-p02:43
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dewboy3di use blender with great success. find it easier to work with than 3dsmax02:43
PeloTarkus,  as far as adobe stuff is consern you can try  gimp for photoshop and ink for illustrator02:43
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TarkusTerminus, VRay Renderer is a necessity though, and there is no version of vray for blender afaik..02:43
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monitorhow can i asure that i have all the dev packages necesaries?02:43
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dewboy3dmonitor: there is a package called build-essentials that should have everything you need.02:44
ferret0567Does anybody have a ASUS P5B Deluxe now? I think IRC does not give a transcript to new users joining the channel?02:44
monitorOh! thanks, dewboy3d!02:45
dabaRdewboy3d: not on point of his question...he wants .h and .so files.02:45
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dewboy3di see. missed that part02:45
dabaRmonitor: I follow the readme usually, or decipher config and make output02:45
green_earzebaad: is the right drive installed for the video card ? to check > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/   then run the command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   and see what video driver installed. the xserver-xorg may be wrong02:45
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monitorbuild-essentials: no such package.02:46
Pelono S02:46
green_earzebaad: and see if you can find out what the refresh rates are for the monitor. google for montior info02:46
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beyondhi,all02:47
varsendaggrwhere do i change the rightclip play with options?02:47
varsendaggrclick02:47
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Pelominisplit ?02:48
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dewboy3debaad: run xvidtune and post your results02:48
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dewboy3dor if you want to read a bit to understand...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397302:50
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dewboy3drefresh rate (vertical sync) being at 61 is causing your flicker. would probably do much better to get it up to 75. that document will help you02:52
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tim167in Mozilla Sunbird Calendar: can I let days start at 5 am instead of 00h00 ? (I prefer night hours below on screen) thanks!02:52
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[erisco] how do you restart an application through the terminal? Apache2 would be my example02:53
Nlytn_hi i asked a question about and hour or so ago about several application launching in the background using up 100% cpu and causing my pc to freeze up, ive done a full reinstall of ubuntu edgy now and its still happening :( the programs running that take up all the cpu are "dd" (copy app) "klogd" and "kacpid", ive checked syslog and it is absolutely huge with weird errors02:53
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green_earz[erisco] : sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart02:54
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Nlytn_"Ag0e/e(: Ag0e/e(: Ag0e/e: A0 e/e>: " for example in /var/log/messages02:54
PeloNlytn_,  are you running kubuntu ?02:54
Nlytn_nope just ubuntu02:54
[erisco] green_earz, thanks02:54
green_earznp02:54
dabaRPelo: those ks are for kernel02:54
Pelook02:55
dewboy3dwhy is dd running in background?02:55
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ferret0567Who knows why DD id02:55
Nlytn_no idea, i have to kill it within 15 secs or so of it starting or it freezes my pc02:55
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ferret0567Who knows why DD is running in the background02:55
dabaRNlytn_: it could be some device that is plugged in, do you have anything other than keyboard mouse monitor in terms of peripherals?02:55
Nlytn_hmmm a webcam02:56
Nlytn_oh, a bluetooth dongle too02:56
dabaRNlytn_: unplug(make it bare), restart, see:)02:56
dewboy3dneither should be running dd02:56
tim167Can days start at 5:00 am instead of 0:00 in Mozilla Sunbird ?02:56
dabaRhates recommending restarts but is not really good at restarting diff services...02:56
Nlytn_also an ipod mini connector... but its not plugged into ipod02:56
green_earz[erisco] : and to see what servers there is cd /etc/init.d  and the use the command ls  : which give you a list of what servers that start on boot02:56
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tim167or has anyone a better Calendar program suggestion ?02:57
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dabaRNlytn_: unplug everything weird. then if it is better, plug one by one in and see which one sucks02:57
dabaRhehe, that sentence sucked ass02:57
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Nlytn_dabaR: thankyou :)02:57
dabaRNlytn_: it is a try, no guarantees02:57
Nlytn_i take it those errors in syslog are hardware related then?02:57
dewboy3dtim167: evolution has a calendar02:57
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dabaRNlytn_: that is the only thing I can think of, but have no real idea what is going on.02:58
TrixseyIf I install something through synpatic, I can see the program under Applications, use commands like $ program & in the terminal etc.. but when I download them manually I can't02:58
Nlytn_ok02:58
dabaRNlytn_: it is an attempt, and you can only try...02:58
Trixseyhow do I make them cool like that? :p02:58
TrixseyI'd like to "install" a compiled program thats already running.. that is.. have it added to menues etc02:58
dabaRTrixsey: what did you download for example? is it something compiled?02:59
Trixseyyes02:59
TrixseyAzureus02:59
sethkTrixsey, if you have a shell already running, you have to do this:      hash -r02:59
tim167dewboy3d:thanks, actually I am used thunderbird for my mails...how does evolution compare to that ?02:59
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dabaRTrixsey: azureus is java, and I am pretty sure they distribute a binary...02:59
Trixseycan't get it through synpatic, that version is bugged02:59
Trixseyhash-r on what?02:59
Trixseyon my file?02:59
Nlytn_hmmm what is the size figure "ls" displays? bytes? my "messages" is 10277550 :S02:59
Trixseyexecutable?02:59
sethkTrixsey, that flushes the execution path caches and forces the shell to look for any program you try to run.02:59
sethkTrixsey, no, in the shell, where you said it isn't working when you type the name of the program.02:59
dabaRNlytn_: bytes maybe03:00
ssd7_Can I ask a question that isn't really ubuntu related?03:00
sethkTrixsey, there's no difference between installing through the gui, or installing manually.03:00
sethkssd7_, sure.03:00
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dabaRsethk: you are defining manually as apt-get?03:00
Trixseyhow do you eman?03:00
ebaadthanks much for help03:00
sethkdabaR, not defining it at all.03:00
Trixseyazureus & hash -r?03:00
Trixseyor03:00
Trixseyazureus &03:00
Trixseyhash -r03:00
ebaad I think that dpkg command worked and I put the right model of the LCD and it works perfect now03:00
dewboy3dtim167: works great. i've never had any isues with it. but i haven't used TB on linux yet so i can't offer a comparison03:00
dabaRsethk: cause there is a diff between compiling and installing a package...03:00
sethkTrixsey, no, no, _first_.  hash -r _first_03:00
tim167dewboy3d: and very important to me: can I set days to run from 5 am to 5 am instead of 0:00 to 0:00 in evolution calendar?03:00
ebaadTHANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP.............03:00
sethkdabaR, yes, but my answer is correct for that case also.03:01
dabaRebaad: glad it worked:)03:01
ebaadIt has been bothering me since yesterday03:01
dewboy3dlet me check. i think it's possible03:01
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ebaadNow I can move forward to other things03:01
Trixseytrixsey@trixsey:~$ hash -r03:01
Trixseytrixsey@trixsey:~$ azureus &03:01
Trixsey[2]  1070803:01
Trixseybash: azureus: command not found03:01
Trixseyugh03:01
ebaadTHNAKS MUCH03:01
wildchildwhy kaffeine doesn't wanna opened itself :s03:01
sethkTrixsey, did you compile?03:01
wildchildhow can I fix that03:01
Trixseyno03:01
dabaRebaad: welcome.03:01
ssd7_I downloaded Transarc AFS client from my university; however, I can't figure out how to install it.  There is no readme file that I can find, no make files, just a bunch of directories and executables03:01
TrixseyI downloaded compiled files03:01
dabaRsethk: feel like explaining in #ubuntu-offtopic?03:01
sethkTrixsey, then whatever you think you did to install it manually, really didn't install it.03:01
TrixseyLike I said, runs perfectly fine.. although it's not "installed"03:01
sethkdabaR, sure03:01
ebaadNow u r on my speed dial03:02
Nlytn_dabaR: ah i found ls -lh prints in kb/mb etc, my messages is 10mb :|03:02
ebaadjust kidding03:02
Trixseysethk: it's not installed, thats what I'm saying03:02
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Trixseyit's downloaded compiled executables, and I WOULD LIKE to install them03:02
Trixseythus asking how03:02
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Trixseysynpatic gives me a bugged azureus anyway03:02
dewboy3dtim167: yes it is possible. you can change start and end times for you day in the calendar03:03
tim167dewboy3d: yet another question: can I sync evolution calendar with a windows user ? ("share" a calendar I mean...)03:03
PeloTrixsey,  no  az realy does take that much memory and cpu03:03
ssd7_Any tips on how I should go about installing this, anything I should be looking for other than make files and readme files?03:03
melotanyone here teach me how to make a DVD movie from avi file03:03
wildchildhow can I fix that03:03
wildchildwhy kaffeine doesn't wanna opened itself :s03:03
dabaRTrixsey: make a link to the executable file in /usr/bin, with the ln command, see usage with man ln, then add a menu entry with Applications>Accessories>Menu editor03:03
sethkTrixsey, well, that's a different issue.03:03
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dewboy3dtim167: that i have never tried. no one i would want to share with. you can publish calendars to the web though03:04
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sethkTrixsey, in some cases you can just copy a program to a directory in $PATH, but in other cases the program consists not only of the executable files but other associated files as well.03:04
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tim167dewboy3d: great, I'm gonna check evolution then, maybe switch to that for mail too...thanks!03:04
dabaRwildchild: how do you try to open it?03:04
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green_earzTrixsey: have you used BitTornado its a very stable client and if you want to go big time check out torrentflux03:05
dewboy3dmelot: try this from ubuntu forums.. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183936&highlight=avi+to+dvd03:05
TrixseyI do prefer Azureus03:05
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melotthanks03:05
melotill try dewboy3d03:05
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PeloTrixsey,  torrent works very well on wine , only a few minor things don't work03:06
wildchilddabaR by clicking on it multimedia -> kaffeine03:06
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TrixseyI wasn't asking for alternatives :p03:06
Pelofine03:06
dabaRwildchild: try in a terminal see the errors if any03:06
CoirDoes anyone know which linux image would be best to use with a Core 2 Duo, and if it will make much dif. using Parallels?03:06
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dabaRsethk: he should make a link imo.03:07
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PeloTrixsey,   az just got a new version out anyway, wait a while and there will be a ubu package03:07
wildchilddabaR; in terminal nothing happens when I write kaffeine and then enter :S03:07
sethkdabaR, no particular advantage to using a link03:07
kyconquershow do I reconfigure a new sound card?03:07
dabaRwildchild: nothing never happens, there is always something, what do you mean exactly?03:07
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sethkwildchild, nothing is about the only thing that can't happen03:08
dabaRwildchild: hangs?03:08
dabaRhehe03:08
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wildchilddabaR: look:03:08
wildchildq@umbrella:~$ kaffeine03:08
wildchildq@umbrella:~$03:08
bimberiCoir: Edgy?  -generic should be fine  Dapper? -686-smp03:08
wildchildthis happened...03:08
dabaRok, so it returns to the prompt...03:08
dabaRwildchild: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kaffeine will reinstall it...03:09
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sethkwildchild, that means it found kaffeine, executed it, and the program did not raise any errors.03:09
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dabaRsethk: ya, but it ended without doing anything...03:09
TrixseyIf I do compile it myself, would it be "installed" then?03:10
sethkdabaR, anything _visible_03:10
dabaRsethk: right03:10
sethkTrixsey, there is a step in compiling, "make install", that installs the program03:10
dabaRTrixsey: I told you what to do if you want $azureus<enter> to work, and have a menu item03:10
sethkTrixsey, by default in /usr/local instead of /usr, so you need to make sure /usr/local/bin is in your PATH03:10
sethkTrixsey, but it's not usually the best thing to do.03:11
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TrixseydabaR: Making a link didn't work.. azureus starts but craches03:11
dabaRTrixsey: what is the error message?03:11
Trixseycrashes*03:11
musicusercan any one unban me from ubuntu-xgl i just join and says i'm banned03:12
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wildchildI reinstalled kaffeine and still nothing _visible_ happens...03:12
wildchild:S03:12
TrixseydabaR: http://pastebin.se/460503:12
dabaRmusicuser: ask on #ubuntu-ops if you don't get an answer here.03:12
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musicuseroh ok03:12
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naitmerhi03:13
naitmersomeone knows the difference between the 32 and 64 bits versions of ubuntu?03:13
dabaRTrixsey: but it works if you run azureus in the directory you installed it in?03:13
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TrixseydabaR: sure03:14
Trixseyworks perfectly fine03:14
Trixseywhen was it released, yesterday?03:14
dabaRnaitmer: that is not a great question, cause a possible answer is "one is for 32 bit computers, and other is for 64 bit computers"03:14
Trixsey(Azureus)03:14
Trixseythen I might as well wait for the new version to surface on synpatic03:14
naitmeryes, i know that, but is there an apreciable difference?03:14
dabaRTrixsey: it crashes now cause it does not like something, I don't feel like explaining.03:14
TrixseyI did just like you said anyways03:15
dabaRTrixsey: delete the link, add an alias to your /etc/bash.bashrc file, do you know how?03:15
Trixseynah.. nvm that :P I'll wait untill Azureus is out in version 2.5 in synpatic03:15
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Trixseyuntill then I'll just use this folder on the desktop03:15
burningmyhair!flash03:15
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:15
dabaRTrixsey: sounds good to me:)03:15
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Trixseyit works anyway.. was just "ugly" :p03:15
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w30naitmer, 64 bit gives problems with flash player and RealPlayer and wmv9 because the 64 bit versions are not available yet.03:16
dabaRnaitmer: 64 bit does not have as simple installation of certain programs, like flash03:16
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w30naitmer, there are work arounds but if you really don't need 64 bit and just want a desktop go for the 32 bit version03:17
tim167in Evolution calendar I can set the day to start and end at 5:00 am, but it is still displayed as 0:00 to 0:00, I want the topmost on the screen to be 5:00 and the bottom most 4:30, is that possible ?03:17
naitmerso you strongly recommend the 32 bit ver despite i have a 64bit cpu?03:17
kyconquersI know which chipset my sound card needs, but I need help enabling the card. aplay -l returns no cards. I have the emu10k1 chipset card.03:18
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w30naitmer, remember 32 bit will run faster on a 64 bit computer than on a 32 bit computer03:18
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w30naitmer, 64 bit really gains in apps written especially for 64 bit like data base stuff I suppose?03:19
plagerismOkay I am having the weirdest problem. I wrote a simple shell script to create a directory cd into the created directory and then create some files and stuff based on a list of files.  The first time it ran through everything seemed to work fine, however I had to stop it to do something else(I was gonna put it in screen cause it will take a while).  However now it cant create the directories.  I can personally cr03:19
plagerismeate the directory with mkdir, however I get permission denied from within the script. I unmounted remounted the volume, checked lsof, checked dmesg,checked permissions of everything and nothing seems to tell me why I cant do what I want to do.  Any other ideas?03:19
dabaRnaitmer: depending on how you intend to use your system. the 32 bit version will be better for desktop everyday usage likely. but you forego some advantages of a kernel built specifically for your hardware, which would be advantageous for a server, for example. I do not recommend either really, don't know enough about it to make sense03:19
dabaRplagerism: post script on pastebin, and check permissions.03:20
green_earzkyconquers: sudo aptitude install modconf     the fire it up sudo modconf and track down you sound card driver and install it03:20
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w30naitmer, 64 bit Linux is nuthin' new its been around for years on server machines.03:21
kyconquersgreen_earz: how would I track down my driver? and install it?03:21
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green_earzkyconquers: and to check what the driver is for the card check out > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/03:22
w30naitmer, I have been on 64 bit for a year on AMD x86_64 cpu03:22
green_earzkyconquers: install modconf and then fire it up and start looking for it the auido section03:22
tim167I am looking for a Calendar program that can display days starting from 5am and ending at 4am, evolution doesn't do that... thanks!03:23
w30naitmer, but I don't know why, just to say I run 64 bit I guess, maybe because I liked dual guads on my race car too just to brag.03:23
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plagerismdabar script posted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33589/.  It does really nothing except creates directories right now03:23
plagerismpermissions of directories are fine03:23
ryanakca"apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName"... what do I do to set it?03:24
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dabaRplagerism: I suppose you are asked for a dir name to create then the dir is created, then you cd to the parent dir?03:25
plagerismyea I removed some of the script for testing03:25
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plagerismcreate the directory && cd to the directory && create the files03:25
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plagerismso if the directory exists it does nothing for that listing03:25
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plagerismBut it wont create the damn files03:26
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dabaRplagerism: oh, it reads the whole thing from the listing file?03:26
plagerismyes03:26
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stiffme1983hello everyone03:27
bruenig!hi | stiffme198303:27
ubotustiffme1983: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!03:27
BeforewisdomHi.  Does anyone know how to get MPlayer to STOP skipping all of the extra stuff at the start of a dvd?03:27
illiadhello all :)03:27
plagerismDuh nevermind I figured it out03:27
plagerismSTUPID03:27
stiffme1983can i get kernel source in edgy?03:27
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dabaRplagerism: and what does the cd .. do? it did not really change directory as far as I could tell.03:27
dabaRwhen I ran it...03:27
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plagerismdabaR I removed some of the code03:28
stiffme1983the kernel in edgy seems lag in my laptop03:28
kyconquersI ran modconf and found that the module should already be loaded.03:28
plagerismJust a stupid logic error, thanks dabaR03:28
dabaRplagerism: you got it fixed?03:28
plagerismyea it was a silly logic error tis all03:28
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dabaRso now you are good? all fixed?03:28
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illiadjust a quick question, i have forgotten how to burn an iso to cdrom... can i use dd or cc i can't remember what it was called....03:29
green_earzkyconquers: lsmod and see if you can see it03:29
BeforewisdomHi.  Does anyone know how to get MPlayer to STOP skipping all of the extra stuff at the start of a dvd?03:29
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dabaRilliad: right click on iso burn to disc or some like option03:29
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plagerismThe reason why it worked the first is because none of the directories existed.  The second time the first directory existed it when back one and the second directory got permission denied03:29
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BeforewisdomOkay, thanks anyway03:29
dabaRplagerism: I was thinking the same exact thing:)03:29
BeforewisdomBye03:29
dabaRBeforewisdom: cya03:30
kyconquersyes, I see it03:30
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wulfy814Happy Turkey Day US folks, I recently updated (apt-get update , apt-get upgrade) my dapper backuppc server and I can no longer SSH in03:30
wulfy814local network (10.10.1.15)03:30
wulfy814I get a connection refused03:30
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wulfy814but I can still hit web, webmin, and ping03:30
wulfy814I can issue commands on webmin03:30
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wulfy814and see that SSH is running and listening on 2203:31
wulfy814I even apt-get removed ssh and reinstalled it03:31
wulfy814any ideas?03:31
illiadcheers mate, jeez i'm going dumb...03:31
green_earzkyconquers: and use the command groups  to see if you are in the audio group03:31
GionnyBossbye all!03:31
bruenig!bye03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:32
kyconquersyes. I'm in audio.03:32
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stiffme1983can i get edgy's kernel source?03:32
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dabaRstiffme1983: linux-source-2.6.17 is the package.03:32
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stiffme1983dabaR: thanks03:33
dabaRstiffme1983: aptitude search source is how I found out.03:33
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orbital04hello03:33
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stiffme1983dabaR: is that:aptitude search ?03:33
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w30what am I missing by being on Dapper and not Edgy?03:34
dabaR"aptitude search source" in a terminal.03:34
naitmeranother easy question?03:34
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orbital04I'm tring to install a print driver with the add printer tool, where do I look for the driver? I'm running Dapper...thanks03:34
dabaRw30: well, you could read... http://www.ubuntu.com/news/610released03:34
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naitmercan ubuntu read/write ntfs partitions or is as clicky as the other distros?03:35
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bimberinaitmer: read yes, write not recommended, but possible03:35
w30dabaR, ok, I will. Thank you.03:35
bimberi!fuse | naitmer03:35
ubotunaitmer: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse03:35
dabaRw30: or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes03:35
naitmerthks guys :P03:35
dabaRw30: basically the same, but the second has pretty pictures03:36
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bimberi!thanks | naitmer03:36
ubotunaitmer: You're Welcome!03:36
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dabaRbimberi: hehe03:36
root_hi03:36
wulfy814no ideas on my "connection" refused issue with dapper server?03:36
wulfy814no firewall running03:36
bimberi:P03:36
dabaRwulfy814: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart03:36
dabaRwulfy814: does it start?03:36
wulfy814output of netstat -nl | grep 2203:36
wulfy814dabaR: yes03:36
Apollooooooooooosjas03:36
dabaRwulfy814: router?03:37
wulfy814dabaR: local network03:37
wulfy814dabaR: no router03:37
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naitmerso what partition fs do you recommend for win/ubutu data share?03:37
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dabaRwulfy814: try sshing from the same computer to itself.03:37
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illiadseeya guys. Thanks again dabaR, you should of slapped me though for not trying that first.03:38
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bimberinaitmer: fat3203:38
naitmerthougth so :(03:38
illutionhi all03:38
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wulfy814dabaR: I get "connection refused" there too03:38
bimberinaitmer: or ...03:38
illiadlol03:39
bimberi!ext3 | naitmer03:39
ubotunaitmer: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org03:39
illutioni have some probleme with xchat ! some one hak me he have a exploit for all version of xchat how i do ?03:39
naitmergreat!!!!! thanks ubotu03:39
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dabaRwulfy814: so it is not the network or a security issue with trust to that compouter you were doing it from...show me oputput of aptitude search openssh-server in a pastebin, please.03:40
bimberinaitmer: by the way, ubotu is a bot :)03:40
zelda276anyone have a good guide to properly partitioning HDs?03:40
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_k|dhola chicas'03:40
Pelobimberi,  say it aint so03:40
bimberi!yourself | naitmer03:40
ubotunaitmer: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:40
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bimberiPelo: ;)03:40
naitmerubotu a bot?03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about a bot? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
_k|dindeed03:41
dabaRwell, if you are so all knowing, ubotu, what did I have for lunch? ha? can't figure it out, eh? all knowing infobot shminfobot...03:41
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bimberilol dabaR03:41
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bimberi!console | Pelo03:41
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_k|dslow Turkey Day evening I assume!03:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about console - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
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bimberiheh, no consolation there03:42
coz_mmlooks that way _k|d03:42
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zanopholDoes anyone know how to tell which version of the forced.eth driver edgy uses by default?03:42
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_k|d;)03:43
timtrimbleradeon 7000 mobility - any hope for getting it to run correctly in ubuntu?03:43
hovdohi, i am currently installing my first time ever install of ubuntu and stopped at step 6 of 6 with a question on where to install the grub... found many confusing infos on forums and faqs about this.i dont want to make a bad step:) anyone care to help?03:43
dabaR!ati03:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:43
dabaRhovdo: do you have windows still on he computer?03:44
coz_zanophol, no i don't sorry03:44
timtrimblecan anyone help me with a radeon 7000 mobility?03:44
hovdodabar: yes winxp on primary master03:45
Pelohovdo,  install grub on which ever the boot hdd is03:45
dabaRhovdo: is it asking whether you want to install to the mbr?03:45
dabaRtimtrimble: did you read the binarydriver page of the wiki?03:45
_k|ddid you do your homework first?03:45
_k|dheheh03:45
dabaRmore like, did you try what I can suggest...03:46
hovdoit ask to hd0 but i dont want it there cause i suspect it will install on the xp drive03:46
dabaRhovdo: just do it, it will not overwrite windows, just windows' boot loader.03:46
cesarbDoes anyone know which driver the kubuntu live cd uses for X on safe mode? It's hanging for me just after the X cursor appears, in both normal and safe mode, and I don't think it should hang in safe mode.03:46
Jas-Nixhello, has anyone here gotten bluetooth working ?03:46
dabaRI just turned on my bluetooth mouse on my old ibook and it worked03:47
bimberi!bluetooth03:47
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup03:47
_k|dsweet03:47
coz_timtrimble, I am finding nothing for that  radeon 7000 mobility but I am still googling03:47
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timtrimblecoz:  i might have a possible solution, ubt it's the open source driver03:48
insubYeah, how can i make a ssh / ftp server with Ubuntu03:48
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coz_timtrimble, good, I was feeling bad I couldn;t find anything for you03:48
dabaR!openssh-server03:48
hovdodabar: i wanted it so that i make the bios to load the new linux drive first and there i want the grub, if anything goes wrong i could then still switch the bios to load from xp drive as nothing happened03:48
ubotuopenssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 212 kB, installed size 552 kB03:48
coz_! radeon 7000 mobility\03:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about radeon 7000 mobility\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:48
insubokay03:49
insubhow do i install it03:49
timtrimblecoz_: thanks anyway, man... nice to meet people who are nice enough to do stuff like that03:49
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dabaRhovdo: I am not sure it will work the way you said, I have windows and ubuntu on the same hd, and I installed grub on hd0 when I installed, and it worked great.03:49
coz_timtrimble, no problem guy, I come here on occasion just to help03:49
dabaRinsub: do you know how to insatll programs in Ubuntu?03:49
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insubi'm a Ubuntu newb03:49
coz_dabaR, what programs do you want to install?03:50
dabaRinsub: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto03:50
dabaRcoz_: I was asking him cause he asked...read above...03:50
insubokay thanks dabaR03:50
coz_dabaR, sorry guy misread03:50
dabaRcoz_: no worries.03:50
coz_insub, what programs do you want to install03:50
mike_Hi, can't boot WinXP after i installed KUbuntu. I resized the WinXP partion. I have mounted it and can read files. WinXP is in Grub menu.lst and it looks right. Any ideas?03:51
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insuba ssh / ftp server03:51
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coz_insub, well as dabaR mentioned you can go to synaptic and search for the ssh ftp servers you want to install... d you know where synatpic is/03:52
insubyes03:52
insubi found it03:52
w30!upgrade03:52
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:52
Pelois there a package for an audio file editor that can rase the volume of an mp3 files and play change the sound  values a bit, this audio book I am listening to is realy shitty03:52
coz_insub, then hit hte search button and type in ssh or ftp and see if there are any you want to install03:52
insubokay03:53
z9999I've finally got to the point where ndiswrapper -l displays       bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present    Can someone help me proceed from this point in installing my wireless?03:53
z9999The next step does not display any wireless devices.03:53
zelda276on a partition: does free space = no files?03:53
dabaRzelda276: only if free space = available space03:54
hovdodabar: thx i know that it can work that way,  i wanted to try to not touch the xp drive at all. and have the grub on the linux drive. i just dont know during the install which i am now running which drive he thinks is the hd0 hd1 hd203:54
coz_zelda276, if you mean windows then no not necessarily, free the mft reserve will be seen as free space03:54
dabaRwell, partition size, not available space03:54
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zelda276dabar: thx03:54
tonyyarussozelda276: In general, that means you haven't formatted it, so it's not even usable yet03:54
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zelda276is there a more detailed partition guide than the one at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/installation/Partitioning03:55
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dabaRhovdo: hd0 is the master ide hard drive, hd1 is the slave, and so on.03:55
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tonyyarussozelda276: Not likely...03:55
dabaRtonyyarusso: still have the stats for the chan?03:55
tonyyarussodabaR: Yeah - haven't done any analysis (I had been ambitious and thought I could extract # nicks info), but the activity graphs are up03:56
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stalefriesHey, anyone know how I can enable seahorse network key sharing?03:57
dabaRtonyyarusso: :)03:57
dabaRtonyyarusso: I was motivated by them for a while:)03:57
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tonyyarussodabaR: Did pretty well too, iirc03:57
catalyticwhen you run export03:57
stalefries!seahorse03:57
ubotuseahorse: A Gnome front end for GnuPG. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.5-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1560 kB, installed size 5528 kB03:57
hovdodabar: thx i found that on some forums grub thinks different after it is installed, i just didnt wanted to make a mistake. thx for help03:57
catalyticis that showing the settings for an X11 script?03:58
catalyticand if so, where is it?03:58
dabaRhovdo: welcome.03:58
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catalyticanyone  know what the export function is dumping out?04:00
stalefriesDoes anyone here use seahorse?04:00
Xenguycatalytic: environmental variables  ?04:00
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catalyticok04:00
catalyticare they stored somewhere?04:00
catalyticin a file?04:01
fnfHi, can anyone please tell me is this possible to change/route IRQ in Linux ?. I seem to be having problem with IRQ conflict with my video and network card.04:01
Xenguycatalytic: hrm, maybe not04:01
catalyticso i can add a manual entry that will be added every startup?04:01
catalyticim trying to add this command04:01
catalyticexport MAYA_MMSET_DEFAULT_XCURSOR=1;04:01
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stalefriescatalytic: stick that in your ~/.bashrc04:01
catalyticok04:01
stalefriesat the end04:01
catalyticcheers04:01
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Xenguycatalytic: hrm, compare with 'set'04:01
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stalefriesBummer, I was hoping someone could help me with seahorse. I'll check google/the forums04:02
catalyticuse set instead?04:02
tonyyarussostalefries: Perhaps - what about it?04:02
Xenguycatalytic: no, what stalefries said04:02
stalefriestonyyarusso: network key sharing04:02
naitmerthis can seem a bit noob question but.. what is journalism as for file system?04:02
Xenguycatalytic: I'm just exploring a bit04:02
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naitmerjournaling i mean04:03
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catalyticerm04:03
stalefriestonyyarusso: I get errors about loading something or other on login, pretty non-descript04:03
catalyticjust stick it anywhere in there?04:03
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stalefries!journaling04:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about journaling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:03
naitmeri tryed that :P04:03
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stalefriescatalytic: at the end is best, for tidyness04:03
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tonyyarussostalefries: Hmm, sorry.  I got nothing on that.04:03
stalefriestonyyarusso: oh well04:03
stalefriestonyyarusso: don't even know what it would do, but sounds interesting :)04:04
catalyticdo i need to end it with a ;04:04
catalytic?04:04
stalefriesnah04:04
catalyticok thanks04:04
sportmanim home04:05
sportman:-p04:05
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z9999Does anyone knowwhat channel to join for help getting wireless to work in Ubuntu?04:07
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stalefries!wireless04:08
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:08
tonyyarussoz9999: This one - just ask your question and see if anyone with an answer is about.  ^^ is a good place to start.04:08
stalefriesz9999: otherwise, stick around here and ask :)04:08
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ferossz9999: Very easy...install Network Manager, comment out everything in /etc/network/interfaces except the lo device and remove the default gnome network applet from tray.. done04:09
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catalytichmmm04:10
catalyticit worked for a while04:10
ZambeziIs it possible to ban a person here which has misbeahaved really bad in the Swedish channel?04:10
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catalyticnow the poxy big black X for x11 is back04:10
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catalytichow can i stop it from doing that and using the proper mouse pointer?04:10
davey486Has anyone got a kodak docking station to print with edgy?04:10
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XenguyZambezi: oh stop your witch hunt and political correctness04:11
naitmerhas anyone loaded an ubuntu live cd with 192mb of ram? :S04:11
stalefriestonyyarusso: it seems I need some sort of zeroconf networking04:11
stalefriesnaitmer: 128 here04:11
Admiral_Buttercrwinecfg, cant access sound tab, diablo II no sound, getting an error about non existant directory04:11
naitmerit wont do it arg04:11
MarianoGuerraa friend of mine installed dapper with 128 MB of RAM04:11
MarianoGuerrai dont know how :D04:11
stalefriesit hurts04:12
Pelodavey486,  is your docking station listed in CUPS  ?04:12
naitmerit stops at the window manager loading screen04:12
stalefriesI ran ubuntu for a while (full gnome) with 6404:12
ZambeziXenguy, I can translate it later. He'll be banned in Swedish channel later.04:12
davey486i don't think so04:12
zelda276how much ram does the gimp use?04:12
tonyyarussostalefries: Aaah.04:12
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Pelodavey486,  ...   check04:12
XenguyZambezi: I'm just personally tired of censors and lawyers :P04:12
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stalefriestonyyarusso: it was because one of my ram slots borked04:13
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stalefriestonyyarusso: I later bought a stick of 256, that's all I have now04:13
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silent_screamhey all, does anyone know how to set up the joypad in cedega??04:13
Garotaque onda gente04:13
stalefries!es04:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:13
silent_screamjstest gives me: Joystick (Logitech Logitech Cordless RumblePad 2) has 6 axes (X, Y, Z, Rz, Hat0X, Hat0Y)04:13
Admiral_ButtercrDoes anyone know how to get sound to work in WINE?04:14
PeloAdmiral_Buttercr,  join #winehq04:14
ZambeziXenguy, Okay, but this guy really deseves it. ;-) He bullied me and was rude to all the other in the channel.04:14
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Admiral_Buttercrty04:14
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PeloZambezi,  so just /ignore him04:14
XenguyZambezi: I'm going to bite my tongue (hard) now -- excuse me :p04:14
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silent_screamanyone using cedega?04:15
silent_screamk i'll wait04:15
ZambeziPelo, I'll too, but I weren't sure how I did. Thanks for the tip.04:15
stalefriessilent_scream: have your tried joining #cedega ?04:16
XenguyZambezi: this may work to /ignore replies too: ignore -replies -time 180004:16
silent_screamstalefries, yup... everyone in there is sleeping i suppose04:16
XenguyZambezi: this may work to /ignore replies too: /ignore -replies -time 180004:16
stalefriessilent_scream: hmm04:16
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ZambeziXenguy, I save the commands. But it became personal, so I'll ignore him here and get him banned in the Swedish channel. :-)04:18
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silent_screamit seems you guys are my last chance :d04:18
davey486pelo: cups sees my printer as an eastmen kodak company kodak easyshare printer dock 304:18
Pelodavey486,  and does it work04:18
Pelo?04:18
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davey486pelo: no, I can't get my computer to print anything through it, it sends the jobs to the spooler but they never go out04:19
z9999feross: When you say default gnome network applet, do you mean the 2 icons that look like monitors on top of the screen? One of them displays Network connection: eth0, and the other displays No network connection when pointed to, and if I right click and display About, they both display Network Manager Applet 0.6.2.04:20
z9999I'm really new to Linux so I'm not real familiar with all the terms used yet.04:20
silent_screamthink i got it04:20
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Pelodavey486,  try setting it up through  system > admin > printers ,  or try looking up your modle number in the forum , maybe you'll find an howto04:20
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davey486I tried loooking in the forum, but there is no recent threads, i was just hoping to run into someone that night have had a little luck04:21
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silent_screamno i didn't04:22
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davey486I downloaded the cd iso and the dvd iso, i did an install with both and didn't notice a difference, is there something that i moissed?04:23
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Pelodavey486,   the  cd is the first of a series of 6 or 7  that contain all the packages available in synaptic,  the dvd contains everyting,    when you just install with the first cd you get everything else onile04:24
Peloonline e04:24
Pelo-e04:24
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davey486I did the dvd install and the cd, but the installed the same packages04:25
Pelodavey486,  that is only for the default install,  if you want/need extra packages   you need the other cds  the dvd or synaptic will get them online from repos04:26
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Pelodavey486,  there are 20k plus packages listed in syanptic04:26
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davey486in one's opinion, would it be worth it to stay with dapper for the 3 year support or go with edgy for the newer features?04:27
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Pelostay with dapper04:27
cmwebSupport is better04:27
crimsun_davey486, if using the absolute latest isn't your top priority, use 6.06.104:27
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bimberidavey486: the dvd would have a repository with lots of additional packages04:27
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davey486thats what i was thinking, i upgraded to edgy and it made a mess so i did a clean install of edgy, but im not noticing a whole lot that makes a difference toi me04:28
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Pelomeaning it works fine now04:29
davey486do you have edgy pelo?04:29
PeloI do now04:29
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davey486did you do the upgrade?04:29
pppoe_dudehi04:29
PeloI am having some minor problems with  mimetype04:29
pppoe_dudehow do i disable tooltips in gnome panels?04:30
gotta_luv_tuxcrimsun_: If I am using the 6.06 version, will I get the same software versions and kernels as newer versions of ubuntu?04:30
gotta_luv_tuxthrough updates that is04:30
Pelodavey486,  after I updated online I had to dl the dvd and make a clean install,  I realy wasn'T up to "fixing" the problems that the update caused04:30
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davey486yeah me too, maybe on there next release they'll fix it04:31
davey486that is the update process04:31
Pelodavey486,  and the update took forever ,  I think it is possible to update from the dvd /cd , but I am not sure, that would probably have been quicker04:32
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Pelogotta_luv_tux,  I think you probably would04:32
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bimberigotta_luv_tux: no.  older releases get security and major bugfixes which doesn't necessarily keep them at the latest04:32
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=== Pelo knows a guy who reinstalled 5.10 and got upgraded to 6.06
nullcodeis ubuntu user familiar ?04:33
davey486have a goo night, I'm off to downgrade to dapper and then spend the night making my computer feel like home again04:33
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davey486goo=god04:33
Pelonullcode,  do you mean user freindly ?04:33
davey486goo=god=good04:33
nullcodeexactly04:33
nullcodelol04:34
nullcodeexecuse me , but am a bit high =$04:34
Sh0gunnewbie needs help with hexedit, after installation i try to run it but says command not found04:34
cmwebWhats a good Livesupport php script. Does any one know...04:34
Pelonullcode,  come back when you come down04:34
nullcodePecisDarbs04:34
nullcode*pel04:34
nullcode*pelo04:34
nullcodeam cool now trust me =)04:34
nullcodejust tell me please04:34
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wulfy814ssh can be evil04:34
wulfy814I only have webmin access to a 6.06 server04:35
Pelonullcode,  it's the distro that's getting ppl to switch from MS  to linux04:35
wulfy814I can't ssh into it04:35
kitchenullcode: it's more user friendly then other distros out there04:35
Pelonullcode,  do not pm me04:35
wulfy814don't have physical access at the moment04:35
crimsun_gotta_luv_tux, no, you won't.04:35
wulfy814ssh appears to be starting ok04:35
Sh0gunhelp plz with "command not found"04:35
wulfy814and netstat -nl | grep 22 show's port 22 is listening04:35
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wulfy814so why do I get a connection refused when I try to ssh in?04:35
nullcodePelo , sorry04:35
crimsun_gotta_luv_tux, that's why we release every six months (so that people who absolutely die without the latest and greatest have a chance to get them)04:36
nullcodecan you even read what i said and answer me here ?04:36
stalefriestonyyarusso: I can't find anything on the seahorse network key sharing!04:36
cmwebanyone? Does anyone even run a webserver....04:36
nullcodewhat about the hardware drivers pelo ?04:36
Pelonullcode,   I didn'T get any problems with the hardware but I have nothing fancy on my computer04:36
Pahalialcmweb: #php might be more relevant...?04:36
gotta_luv_tuxcrimsun_: so what is the befit to using the 6.06 LTS version04:37
cmwebPahalial: no, not necessarily04:37
crimsun_gotta_luv_tux, three years of desktop support04:37
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gotta_luv_tuxcrimsun_: Thanks04:37
biebI am having a software raid issue....04:37
biebI have an old Dell Dimension, I have 1 ide HDD for the OS, and 2 IDE HDDs that I want to put in Raid1 to backup some files from my home PC,04:37
biebI have installed 6.06 from the alternate CD, and setup the Raid on those 2 drives, but when Ubuntu loads, they are not in Raid or mounted or formatted04:37
crimsun_gotta_luv_tux, in other words, when you file a support request, we look at LTS releases first04:37
tonyyarussostalefries: Does seahorse have an irc channel?04:37
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age2sddgdhi04:38
stalefriestonyyarusso: haven't checked04:38
tonyyarussocrimsun_: fyi, my mic currently works on Feisty - hoping it stays until release :)04:38
stalefriestonyyarusso: yes, #seahorse!04:38
nullcodeis there a way to install ubuntu over many pcs at the same time ?04:38
crimsun_tonyyarusso, no reason why it wouldn't unless you make me angry and I break it.04:38
stalefriestonyyarusso: but the only other 2 people on are away04:38
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tonyyarussocrimsun_: Hehe.  Just b/c things like to break?04:39
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wulfy814any ideas on why I can't ssh in?04:39
biebssh not running?04:40
crimsun_tonyyarusso, no, because it's a moving target04:40
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nullcodefirewall ?04:40
kitchewulfy814: have you opened your ssh port?04:40
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nullcoderouter ?04:40
biebssh config?04:40
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kitchewulfy814: by default ubuntu has no ports open04:40
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nullcode/etc/ini.t/ssh start04:40
nayruHi, how do I change my colors from 24 to 32?04:40
Akuma_suspend/hibernate isn't working for me anymore. i think since kernel upgrade. what should i be looking into to fix it?04:41
kitchenayru: well basically those two color-depths are the same thing and your driver must support 32-bit which few do04:41
gpledhow do i get sound working under 6.10?04:41
biebAnyone have any ideas on the Raid problem I posted?04:41
gpledwas working in 6.0604:41
crimsun_gpled, pastebin your ``amixer'' output04:41
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addicted68098I need a cheap computer to run Ubuntu on, I don't want something powerfull, but something effecient that I can run 24/7,04:42
biebaddicted.. www.ebay.com04:42
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levanderHow do I figure out what resolution the gdm screen (that says Ubuntu all over it) is being displayed at?04:44
levanderMan I've never seen this channel this quiet.04:44
AfterDeathheh04:44
AfterDeathme niether04:45
gpledhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33606/04:45
biebits all the triptophan04:45
AfterDeatheverybody is, ahem, having thanksgiving?04:45
tonyyarussoaddicted68098: IBM has some decent used/recertified machines04:45
zelda276not in canada04:45
Pahalialnor, in fact, in most of the world04:45
levanderAfterDeath: I bet the newbs had to eat with their parents...04:45
AfterDeathhaha04:45
AfterDeathi had to eat with my parents04:45
levanderzelda276: canadians don't use Linux, they're too busy cutting down trees, to make money04:46
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biebAnyone have any ideas on the Raid problem I posted?04:48
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gpledbieb, can you post again?04:48
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biebsure04:48
wulfy814kitche: it was open prior to my "apt-get upgrade"04:48
biebI have an old Dell Dimension, I have 1 ide HDD for the OS, and 2 IDE HDDs that I want to put in Raid1 to backup some files from my home PC,04:48
biebI have installed 6.06 from the alternate CD, and setup the Raid on those 2 drives, but when Ubuntu loads, they are not in Raid or mounted or formatted04:48
wulfy814kitche: it also appears to still be listening04:48
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crimsun_gpled, how many sound cards do you have in that machine?04:49
suterfugioj04:49
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wulfy814kitche: pgrep sshd show's me a pid so I know it's running04:49
z9999feross: The package manager shows Network-manager installed already, and after editing te file you suggested I appear to have lost connectivity, but am uncertain if I should remove the icon at the top of the screen as I am unsure if that is what you had referred to. And if that is what I should do, what do I have to do to proceed after doing so?04:50
gpledcrimsun: two. have one on board, but added a pci for performance issues04:50
crimsun_gpled, pastebin ``asoundconf list && cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*'', and indicate which one you want to use04:51
kitchewulf814: well check /etc/hosts.deny just to make sure it's setup correctly04:51
biebwulfy.. check the sshd.conf file too04:51
ferossz9999: do a 'ps aux|grep nm-applet' and see if it's running04:51
biebgpled.. any ideas?04:51
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z9999feross: Yes it is running04:52
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ferossz9999: do you see it in the tray?04:52
gpledbieb: iv done software rade with centos. have not tried it with ubuntu.  it worked with centos04:53
stiffme1983is there a benchmark software to test the performance of the kernel?04:53
biebwhats weird is... If I look at the 2 drives/partitions in gparted, it has them flagged as raid04:53
itielubuntu-es04:54
gpledbieb: does it seem to have issue with you putting the os on another drive, instead of the raid?04:54
haxalityactually yeah, is there a benchmarking program for linux?04:54
haxalityI never contemplated that before04:54
itielhello04:54
biebno04:54
itieli have problem04:54
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itielfor install amsn in my operating system04:54
wulfy814kitche: hosts.deney is empty04:54
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wulfy814sshd_config permits root logon04:54
wapityyyhum04:54
wulfy814I'm lost04:55
wapityyyi just installed ubuntu04:55
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gpledhas anyone here done software raid with ubuntu?  did it work?04:55
stalefries!amsn04:55
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB04:55
wapityyyand grub will not boot my windows partition04:55
itielI dont have install amsn in the linux ubuntu operating sistem04:55
wapityyyit just shows 'starting up...'04:55
z9999feross: If it is the icon that looks like a monitor screen, it is still in the tray as I was unsure if I should have removed it.04:55
ferossgpled: ahh yeah I was going to ask you partitioned it in parted or something..04:55
stalefriesitiel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87001&highlight=amsn+howto04:55
floatingHi. How to connect another computer in LAN, browse and download files from there ? it is a WIN machine sharing files04:56
ferossz9999: when you right click on it you should see a list of wireless networks04:56
Gaygot992I need help with wine04:56
biebfeross.. I am the one asking the raid question.. gpled just re-asked it04:56
stalefries!samba | floating04:56
ubotufloating: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT04:56
PeloGaygot992,   /join #winehq04:56
ferossbieb: so did you partiton it?04:56
floatingwasn't samba to make server for windows machines to connect my files04:56
wapityyyguys ?04:56
stalefriesfloating: it works both ways04:57
gpledcrimsun:  only thing i get is from asoundconf list : AudioPCI04:57
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biebok feross.. here is what I have done.. I installed Ubuntu 6.06 with the alternate CD04:57
itielInitializing package states... Done04:57
itielE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.04:57
wapityyy:(04:57
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ferossz9999: acually you shou just click on it and it will display the networks available04:57
floatingok thx04:57
crimsun_gpled, so that's your ensoniq04:57
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stalefriesitiel, do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'04:57
asfaltspeaking of samba, would it be possible to mount a local ntfs partition and use it from smb://localhost ? as to access ntfs read/write without using the ntfs rw support ?04:57
stalefriesasfalt: nope04:57
Pelowapityyy,   you'Re not being ignored,  there just isn'T anyone that can help around right now04:57
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biebduring the partitioning, I selected 2 drives, set them to format as Linux Raid...04:57
twbubotu pxe04:58
gpledcrimsun: ensoniq?04:58
ubotupxe: free PX daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.2-4 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 136 kB04:58
itielit's the error thats view when I to install amsn in the ubuntu04:58
z9999feross: When I point to it, it displays Network Connection: eth0, and right clicking displays a pull down showing Properties, Help, About, Remove from Panel, Move and Lock to Panel.04:58
crimsun_gpled, your sound card04:58
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twbubotu: network-boot04:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about network-boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:58
crimsun_gpled, does muting 'External Amplifier' help?04:58
stalefriesitiel, do you know a language other than English?04:58
wapityyythis is really bothering ;(04:58
ferossz9999: ok that's the default gnome applet.. remove that one04:58
biebgave them a mount point, then followed the "software raid" setup in the partitioner, after the install was done.. I reboot the system, the drives are seen as individual drives04:58
Pelowapityyy,  try looking up your problem in the forum04:58
biebif I look at the drives with gparted, they show as "raid" flagged04:59
itieli speak spanish04:59
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epphow do i know what chipset my wireless card has?04:59
stalefries!es | itiel04:59
ubotuitiel: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.04:59
ferossz9999: if Network Manager is already installed you should see another icon similar to the gnome one.. it might look like bars04:59
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stalefriesitiel: escribe '/join #ubuntu-es'04:59
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itielok05:00
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kitcheeep: who's your maker of the card?05:00
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z9999feross: The only remaining icons are for updates, battery, speaker, and the clock05:00
ferossbieb: in gparted can you create a partition? although you have the drives as a RAID it does not mean that they have a partition on them.05:00
epphow do i know what chipset my wireless card has?05:01
twbDoes anyone know where I can find information about turning the Ubuntu LiveCD into a pxe (netboot) client?05:01
itieljajajaja05:01
stalefriesitiel: andaba eso?05:01
biebFeross.. in gparted when I select one of the drives set for raid... Partition = /dev/hdc1, Filesystem = unknown, size = 298.09gb, and Flags = raid05:01
itielI the one usuarios05:01
cheatersrealmhttp://channels.debian.net/paste/4588  <- I get this when I boot with my syba sata card (si3114 chipset)05:01
cheatersrealmany ideas?05:01
gpledcrimsun: where do i mute External Amplifier at?05:01
ferossbieb: if you r click on it what options do you have.. can you crete a new partition or is it grayed out05:02
biebif I clisck the partition, and then partition on the toolbar, it gives me "delete, format to, and information"05:02
biebgrayed out05:02
ferossz9999: that's strange.. run 'ps aux|grep nm-applet'  is it running?05:02
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eppwhats the command to find out what chipset and info about my wireless card?05:03
ferossepp: lspci05:03
wulfy814nmap of my server shows port 22 open05:03
wulfy814but I'm getting05:03
eppfeross, thanks05:03
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VigoFusionepp: You can use Synaptic to view that.05:03
wulfy814connection closed when attempting to ssh into it05:03
biebfeross.. if I select format to, then ext3, it fails05:03
crimsun_gpled, use the volume control applet, or amixer, or alsamixer, or ...05:03
wulfy814how can I remove ssh and reinstall it with default permissions and settings/05:03
kitchewulfy814: ok it's your firewall most likely05:04
VigoFusionepp: Or the Device Manager> System>Device Manager05:04
ferossbieb: try breaking the raid.. partiton.. and format.. then setup as raid05:04
z9999feross: Yes it showsrunning05:04
wulfy814I don't believe I have a firewall05:04
biebhow do I break the raid?05:04
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asfaltwulfy does ssh work when you do it locally?05:05
kitchewulf814: all linux's have a firewall it's called iptables05:05
VigoFusionwulfy814: What version?05:05
ferossz9999: hate to say this but try reboot and then it should show up in tray.. or you can try restart udev05:05
wulfy814asfalt: I don't have local access to the box05:05
wulfy814VigoFusion: 6.0605:05
floatingIs there another method for connecting a computer in LAN, than samba ? I heard there is , but I can't locate anything with my xubuntu atm05:05
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z9999feross: I'll try a reboot05:05
ferossbieb: I don't have a raid to play around with but there must be some option there to break it..05:05
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levanderYou know how you can use xvidtune or xrandr to move the X desktop around on the monitor a little?  How do I do the same thing for gdm?05:06
kitchewulf814: you should have a pm from ubotu05:06
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VigoFusionwulfy814: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.06/05:06
biebfeross, should I delete the partitions in gparted?05:06
ferossbieb: it wont hurt05:06
wulfy814Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer is what I get when I ssh from the box05:06
biebok.. then I can format with ext3?05:07
biebthen how to re-raid?05:07
wapityyymy windows will not boot anymore :( I just see 'starting up...' and nothing else after the grub menu05:07
wapityyyany help ??05:07
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levanderwapityyy: i think i had that before, and had to reinstall grub05:07
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ferossbieb: prolly ctrl+click on both partitions and then right-click raid05:07
levanderwapityyy: you can reinstall grub from the livecd05:08
VigoFusionBy default the system has its own security installed and pre configured. Mine passed grc.com and a few Linux tst sites.05:08
levanderwapityyy: google around though, i'm not 100% sure05:08
wapityyylevander: hum ok05:08
darwinHow can you tell what repo a package came from?05:08
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VigoFusionRatso, AYBABTU did not play? ARRRRGHH!05:10
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gpledcrimsun: so it seams the the trouble is in not knowing which sound card should be in use?05:11
darwinCan synaptic or dpkg show which repo a package came from? I tried reinstalling a package and I'm getting a message that it can't be downloaded.05:12
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z9999feross: It's rebooting now, but the icon now only shows Wired Network connection, and iwconfig no shows lo and eth0, but I believe I will have to configure eth0 to get a wired connection to work as we are using a fixed IP, but still no indication of wireless connections. ndiswrapper -l still shows driver and hardware present.05:12
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jturekhow do i setup vesafb 1280 x 8 for my virtual consoles?05:12
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wapityyylevander: hum, didnt work ;(05:13
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cmwe1Did a supybot come thisa way?05:13
z9999feross: that should read iwconfig NOW shows, NOT, no shows. Poor typist.05:13
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Pelocmwe1,  just /whois him/her and if he/she's on the network you'll get a list of channels05:14
gpledwhen i hit test, in sound preferences, should it just beep?05:14
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ferossz9999: hmm, I didn't know you were using ndiswrapper... you might have to play around with network manager to get it working with the card. I never used ndiswrapper so I wouldn't be much help.. sorry05:14
cmwe1it logs in with a diffrent name every time im unsure of the name05:14
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jturekum why is this bot here? shoo shoo!05:15
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z9999feross: I was thinking everyone used ndiswrapper, It was very difficult to find software that would install with ndiswrapper for the wireless chip I'm using but finally found one that would install, but unable to show wlan0 or eth1 anywhere at this point so I can't proceed any further.05:17
cmwebok to kill it05:17
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Paradox-Ubuntucan anyone help me to get WINE working?05:17
Paradox-Ubuntuor is that like a bad word here?05:17
Paradox-Ubuntulol05:17
bimberi!wine | Paradox-Ubuntu05:17
ubotuParadox-Ubuntu: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:17
cmwebgone at last05:17
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bimberiParadox-Ubuntu: not particularly bad :)05:18
ferossz9999: nah, depending on the card you use there are linux drivers for them.05:18
jturek!vesafb05:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vesafb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:18
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Paradox-Ubuntuok i have two "WINE" apps in my application manager and ran the updator... but windows programs still dont seem to be working05:19
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red|raindoes anyone know where "imagemagick" gets installed to?05:19
kitchered|rain: imagemagick: isn't just one program it's a 3 to 4 programs05:19
PeloParadox-Ubuntu, #winehq05:19
VigoFusionI would think Applications?05:19
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red|rainkitche, ahh ok, i'm just wonding because coppermine is asking for the location of it.05:20
VigoFusionred|rain: try looking in your Home Folder05:20
Paradox-Ubuntuty Pelo05:20
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bimberired|rain: 'dpkg -L imagemagick | grep bin' will show you the commands05:20
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kitchered|rain: but most likely it's probably in /usr/bin05:21
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Gaygot992no one knows shyt in #winehq don't bother05:21
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VigoFusion<<<<<is linuxly challenged, to much windoze time and way too little coffee05:21
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z9999feross: Well it looks like any card using Broadcom 4311 chipset is one to avoid. Broadcom tells me they just make the chip and provide no support to end users, Compaq just says they don't support Linux, so it makes me feel like everyone is in bed with Microsoft. I can't understand why a chip maker would not make their chip specs public as they should be trying to sell chips. When I buy...05:22
z9999...hardware I don't want to be tied to any particular piece of software,and I am trying to get ready to avoid Vista, and just move everything over to Linux here.05:22
red|rainkitche, bimberi thanks ^_^05:22
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daaaman64I am trying to do this: "mencoder snorlax.flv -o snorlax.avi -ovc mjpeg -oac pcm"  however I keep getting "Error parsing option on the command line: -ovc"  Is there something else I need to install?? I think I have the right ovc value...05:23
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jmlhello!05:24
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daaaman64No one knows why I am stupid?05:24
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jmlI'm installing edgy on a Thinkpad T22 which is missing its monitor. I've got an external monitor plugged in.05:24
ferossz9999: yeah, it's well worth looking into linux support before buying hardware.. I made that mistake with the video card.. SiS doesn't support 3D :( ..05:25
VigoFusionAdmitting it is the first step.05:25
Sh0gunhow do i get online using dial-up??05:25
kitche!dialip|Sh0gun05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dialip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
kitche!dialup|Sh0gun05:25
ubotuSh0gun: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto05:25
eckSh0gun: in linux? with great difficulty05:25
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Sh0gunthx05:25
jmlEverything goes fine for a while. I see the ubuntu logo and the orange progress bar. However, at some point, the display goes blank, the laptop makes the ubuntu sound and nothing more happens.05:25
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wapityyyhum ...05:26
biebjml.. hit the function keys on your laptop to send display to the external monitor05:26
jmlI _think_ that it's trying to display on the non-existent builtin monitor.05:26
biebsee if that works05:26
wapityyyi still get nothing on grub when loading win xp :(05:26
jmlbieb: it doesn't. it was the first thing I tried.05:26
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wapityyyi get 'starting up ...'05:26
VigoFusionjiml: Is the partion set as a slave?05:26
wapityyyi really need help on this one :(05:26
wapityyyi just installed ubuntu05:26
wapityyywindows XP is on my first partition ...05:27
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wapityyyand my menu.lst looks fine05:27
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asfaltwhat is your preferred video player in ubuntu ? do most people use mplayer? or vlc? in regards to RestrictedFormats which of the two do you use? or do you use Totem perhaps? Wwhich is the best plugin for ff, the vlc one? the mplayer one? for viewing .asf/.wmv web content. Does the w32codecs package support all 3 players? I realise what is involved to set it up, just curious what solution/combination most people use05:27
z9999feross: Maybe there should be a large effort from the Linux community to push for some changes to be made in the way hardware manufacturers operate. I don't want to live in a world dominated by Microsoft.05:27
bimberijml: does ctrl-alt-f1 get you to a console?05:27
jmlbimberi: no, it doesn't.05:27
VigoFusionwapityyy: Is second parti set as a slave in BIOS?05:27
bimberi:|05:27
Immolatorwhich chipset has better linux driver support, ATI or Nvidia? i'm buying a laptop and i need to know which card has better 3D support, because I know one is better than the other, just not which one, help would be greatly appreciated05:28
levanderwapityyy: did you install xp after you installed ubuntu?05:28
jmlctrl-alt-backspace has no effect either.05:28
wapityyylevander: nope, had XP first05:28
jmlno observable effect, that is.05:28
eckImmolator: if you have the option, intel has the best support05:28
wapityyylevander: and after i installed, i booted into XP to check, everything was fine05:28
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ferossz9999: well, I think the only language corporations understand is money.. so if they loose sales due to the linux factor they'll get the idea.05:28
wapityyylevander: than i ran apt-get dist-upgrade, and now it doesnt boot05:28
levanderwapityyy: were you ever able to boot into ubuntu?05:28
wapityyythat's on edgy05:28
wapityyylevander: i am in ubuntu right now05:28
daaaman64asfalt: yes, most people are using mplayer.  However if you hate the gui give kmplayer a shot you may like it.  Also yes to the w32codec question as well.05:28
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jairif I do not want to be typing my password all the time on the ubuntu Dapper drake what command should I issue? "sudo -l'?05:29
z9999asfalt: Sorry to interrupt, but I'm new and couldn't seem to get Totem to work so I installed VLC and it has performed very well.05:29
daaaman64asfalt: warning though, you will get the most reliablity out of mplayer.  Make sure to isntall w32codec pack also.  I assume you are using automatix?05:29
Immolatoreck: but i'm looking at a high end card, like a Radeon or something, intel doesn't have an equivalent, it only has integrated graphics controllers doesn't it?05:29
levanderwapityyy: so, the 2nd time you booted windows, that's when it wouldn't boot?05:29
jmlI might try installing from the server iso05:29
zcat[1] !ltmodem05:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ltmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:29
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wapityyylevander: yeah, after the upgrade05:29
levanderwapityyy: 2nd time after the ubuntu install?05:29
wapityyylevander: no error message, nothing, just 'starting up' forever05:30
wapityyylevander: yeah05:30
bimberijair: 'sudo -i' gets you a root login shell05:30
jairI want to be able of edit, create, navigate open etc.. files and directories on the system, but all the time the sudo "command" ask me for a password to execute ? ;(05:30
asfaltnah that's great that's just the type of feedback i am after05:30
levanderwapityyy: oh wait, 'starting up' is a message you are getting from windows?05:30
jairbimberi: so if I type that then is like I am root on the system until I log off05:30
zcat[1] Q: agere winmodem, appears as /dev/ttyLTM0 with the ltmodem drivers from seveas, dials, connects, won't pass any data. Any ideas?05:30
levanderwapityyy: from the windows startup process05:30
bimberijair: yes05:30
levander?05:30
wapityyylevander: no, it's from grub05:30
jairbimberi: thanks you very much05:30
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wapityyylevander: i get it (very shortly) when starting ubuntu too05:31
bimberijair: yw :)05:31
levanderwapityyy: grub is not finding the windows partition then05:31
eckImmolator: if you *just* have linux on the laptop, then intel is the best course, even though it is a lower end card... if you want a high end card to be able to do things in windows/os x then I would just go with whatever is the best value, nvidia and ati will be similar in functionality05:31
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asfaltdaaaman64 i plan on using automatix yes, i installed ubunty edgy the other day to get a feel for it, liked it, now i am reinstalling afresh on another machine for keeps :D05:31
bruenigautomatix, uhoh05:31
levanderwapityyy: or, it's not finding the stuff to boot windows on the windows partition05:31
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zcat[1] automuntix05:31
wapityyylevander: hum if it's hda205:31
bimberijair: and i hereby indemnify myself from any damage you do while using it ;P05:31
wapityyywhat should my menu.lst entry be ?05:31
levanderwapityyy: there is a #grub channel, why not check in there?05:31
wapityyyrootnoverify(hd0,1)05:32
wapityyythis should be hda2 right ?05:32
zcat[1] bah, back to the external modem I guess....05:32
levanderwapityyy: yeah, (hd0,1) from what i remember about grub is correct05:32
eckwhen i had an ati based computer, i did not have good experiences... i would be surprised if nvidia was that much better :-(05:32
Immolatoreck: i was told that one card didn't have very good 3D drivers and therefore could not run games very well in linux (hl2 etc), but I also want to game in Windows too05:32
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kitchewapityyy: yes that would be hda205:32
daaaman64asfalt: congrats, patience and willingness to learn are you best friend though.  You may find yourself preferring xp for quite awhile.  Just give it time.05:32
wapityyykitche: hum ... what's wrong then ?05:33
kitcheeck: nvidia is better then ati in linux most people tend to go to nvidia for 3d stuff since ati is known to not work on linux05:33
levanderImmolator: nvidia has better opengl and linux support in their drivers, i'd get an nVidia card05:33
VigoFusionIma gonna get a monkey wrench and make ATI work or somethin05:33
Immolatorok, thanks guys05:34
bruenig!thanks05:34
ubotuYou're Welcome!05:34
wapityyykitche: any other ideas ?05:35
asfaltdaaaman64 i not totally fresh to linux so it's not too much of a shock luckily, just new to ubuntu and attracted by the ease of use. having tried various distros in the past, most recently fc6 in way of experimenting with desktops, i came to like ubuntu the best so far. i mean everything worked on my hardware. aside from that i been running slackware in cli only for a few years for a router05:35
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z9999feross: You're right, and I believe the only reason Linux is not taking a bigger share is because of the mis-information that it is so much more difficult to learn than Windows. In truth the OS is very easy to learn and use and is much more powerful, but the fact that HW is difficult to get to work makes it appear that the OS is hard to use. If drivers were readily available for all HW Linux...05:35
z9999...would be much easier to run than Windows, not to mention security, and stability. And I love the fact that Linux provides numerous tools to enable you to perform tasks that are difficult if not impossible to do in Windows. I can't live without commands like ed, sed, grep, cut, paste, col, just to name a few. I'm retired from AT&T so I may be a little biased toward unix though.05:35
nayruhey where is the trash in ubuntu ^_^05:35
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VigoFusionDebian had a very nice writeup on ATI and issues/fixes today.05:35
bruenignayru, ~/.Trash05:35
kitchewapityyy: well there can be many things if you resized your XP partition you might have over written a file that is needed to boot windows05:35
nayruthanx lol05:35
wapityyykitche: i did, but im almost sure it worked the first time, even after the resize05:36
wapityyykitche: do i have to repair the MBR with a windows CD ?05:36
bruenig!mbr05:36
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:36
daaaman64awesome asfalt, I am no pro myself.  I hope you are satisfied w/ ubuntu then.  Nothing beats a fresh install w/ automatix around.  Can have my workspace up in an hour.  Did you enjoy fc6?05:36
kitchewapityyy: well there is amny ways to fix it and my way is the more complicated way05:37
bruenig!automatix05:37
ubotuautomatix is is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Since it is often hard to track and solve problems caused by Automatix, you might find it easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe05:37
FirefisheGreetings :) New ubuntu 6.06 user here.  I'm using it on a G4 PowerPC laptop, and I need a link to information about such things as the broadcom wireless driver and the touchpad.05:37
wapityyykitche: which is ?05:37
daaaman64screw that, automatix works fine :p05:37
bruenigautomatix destroyed my system once05:38
Madpilotdaaaman64, no, it does not. It breaks far too many systems.05:38
Madpilot!wireless | Firefishe05:38
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ubotuFirefishe: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:38
kitchewapityyy: well I usually flush the MBR then do /fixmbr then install grub to the MBR05:38
daaaman64I am on my third system with no problems.  I guess the opinions are fine though.05:38
bruenig!worksforme05:38
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:38
FirefisheMadpilot: Thank you.  I will check that documentation first.  Best work on one prob at a time, eh? ;)  ...on my way05:39
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daaaman64What's your point automatix still works fine for me.05:39
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asfaltdaaaman64 yeah fc6 is ok, i have it running now on an old 400mhz headless machine i vnc to. although i noticed some slowdowns/nautilus crashes/abnormal cpu usage when copying large files , then again could be the old crappy machine itself :D05:39
bruenigwhat is my point? "Works for me" does not mean it is ok05:39
bruenigyou can read yes?05:39
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FunnyLookinHatdaaaman64, The point is automatix is unsafe and not recommended by anyone giving support in this channel.05:39
ferossz9999: I can't agree with you more. Unfortunately with Vista, it's weird but people always say that MS is shooting themselves on the foot with such and such OS but I haven't seen a dent into their monopoly :/... Hopefully this will be the one ..05:40
asfaltaha05:40
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daaaman64bruenig: no kidding but works for me is enough for me to use it.05:40
asfaltso automatix is not offically supported eh?05:40
VigoFusionFirefishie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216301 <<poke around there?05:40
FunnyLookinHatasfalt, hardly  : )05:41
kitcheasfalt: of course not it's not done by the ubuntu people05:41
bruenigit should not be enough to support it especially when confronted clearly with those with other experiences than your own05:41
daaaman64asfalt, it may not be, but if you have the time give it a shot.  Reinstall if you have to.05:41
asfaltwell i found apt-get and the gui of synaptic fairly sufficient i guess05:42
daaaman64I have yet to see a problem w/ it though.05:42
bruenigasfalt, do what you want. Everything automatix does can be done on your own and with very little difficulty. Why you would allow a script that is known to break things do things that you can do on  your own seems odd to me, but nevertheless your computer05:42
z9999feross: Well, I've been doing my part here, I recommend to all my friends, strangers, and the schools locally that they move to Linux.05:42
balderhello  guys  how i can change the folder properties ?05:42
asfaltbruenig yeah fair enough, so i will probably not use it now in view of what you said.05:42
bruenigbalder, chmod ###05:42
StazWhere in ubuntu can I see the wireless AP's available?05:43
bruenigbalder, I misread, I thought it said folder permissions05:43
FirefisheVigoFusion: Just scrolled up and saw your url.  Thank you very much for that, I'll go there now.05:43
asfaltstaz, good question, i could not find any utility on default edgy install to show nearby AP's05:43
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VigoFusion:)05:43
Firefishewb FunnyLookinHat05:44
eckasfalt: what about iwlist?05:44
jairanyone knows the location of the apache2 manual when you install it using apt-get or synaptic?05:44
kitcheStaz: you will have to use software to do it or do iwlist -scan05:44
FunnyLookinHatFirefishe, closed the wrong window   ; )05:44
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jairI am checking on the "/usr/share" but not luck.05:44
mauroxjair: i think that you could do man apache305:44
bruenig!info apache2-doc05:44
z9999feross: Something peculiar just happened, I entered all the info for my fixed IP address under eth0, and even rebooted, and the icon at the screen top says: No network connection, but I brought up Firefox and can connect to Google with no problem.05:44
asfalteck: didn't know of that command, nice05:45
ubotuapache2-doc: documentation for apache2. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2074 kB, installed size 11376 kB05:45
balderbut haw I do that the foldre properties say you don`t have permits  on ly the root05:45
FirefisheFunnyLookinHat: Ya, I've hit 'that' "X" before ;) hee05:45
mauroxsorry apache205:45
balderor something like that05:45
ferossStaz: kismet is a good sniffing tool.. the config is a little tricky, if you want to use it let me know and I'll tell you how to setup the source.05:45
Stazkitche : cheers05:45
Stazthanks feross.05:45
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Adrosshey hey, anyone know the two letter sources.list code for Sweden?05:46
bruenigbalder, what specifically are you trying to do, so I can think of what the permissions should be changed to05:46
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jairmaurox: I found it thanks /usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual05:46
mauroxjair okay :)05:46
jairnow if i want to make a symbolic link hmm05:46
ferossz9999: hm. the other thing that could be interrupting network manager is the gnome network util.. look for profiles.xml in your .gnome2/ .. you might need to rm or mv it to a .bad and then restart.05:46
jairlet me see how i do that05:46
VigoFusionfeross: is that firestarter the fwall to use on Edgy Generic? or what if any apt-get should I use?05:47
bruenigAdross, perhaps sd, is the following factoid swedish, if so sd is probably the code05:47
bruenig!sd05:47
Staziwlist works great, I'll take a look @ kismet also05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
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bruenig!se05:47
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se05:47
kitchejair: ln -s /usr/share/doc/apache2-doc/manual manual05:47
bruenigmaybe se, is that swedish ^05:47
Adrossso it's se then05:47
balderwell I want  to copy a folder from the Desk  to  remove device05:47
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jairkitche: thank you, I have to figure out where do i want the link first ;)05:47
kitchejair: the last manual is what you want the symlink to be named05:48
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Adrossit's se05:48
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P3L|C4N0greetins05:48
Stazonce I find the SSID of my router, how can I connect to it?05:48
jairkitche: I see, and I should run the command from the location i want to access it right?05:48
ferossVigoFusion: yeah firestarter is the one to use... there are ways to make it start automatically when you boot but I have not looked into it. Other than that you just have to click on it and put in your password every time you log in.05:48
test2How do I dual-boot ubuntu and windows?05:48
bruenigbalder, do sudo cp /path/to/file /path/to/removedevice, if that makes sense05:48
bruenig!dualboot05:48
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)05:48
kitchejair: yeah for example you want your symlink in your home fodler you would run the command there05:48
eckStaz: from the command line, just use iwconfig and then possibly dhclient05:48
VigoFusionfeross: Thank you.05:49
ferossHi P3L|C4N0 how are you, I hope you're having a GREAT day...05:49
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balderok let me  try  that05:49
mauroxtest2: grub does that automatically05:49
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test2yes i did the standard procedure, but windows does not boot05:49
Stazeck : perfect cheers05:49
obo I was wondering if anyone can help me rebuild a single kernel module for the stock ubuntu kernel05:49
asfaltwondering if there is any benefit to splitting a 70gb free space as to put /home on its own partition or whether to use the lot for /05:49
kitcheVigoFusion: firestarter is not a firewall it's just a gui frontend to iptables05:49
asfalti should probably do that i think in view of reinstalling/upgrades05:50
ubuntuhacking and programmers any??05:50
jairkitche: thank you very much ;)05:50
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mauroxasfalt: if you mount /home in  an own partition, you have your config there and never lose tehm :)05:50
bruenigasfalt, the benefit comes from when you screw up your install, you don't lose your important data. I would not split that 35G 35G, but instead something like 10G for / and 60G for /home. I have never had my / ever take up over 5 Gigs of space05:50
z9999feross: No profiles.xml file in .gnome2 directory, the LAN connection is working and I'm able to access the Internet.05:51
ubuntuhow the hell is everyone ------happy turkey day05:51
VigoFusionkitchie: Then there is no firewall , or none available? or is it even needed? (old UNIX daze tells me yes)05:51
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bruenigasfalt, perhaps 15 Gigs to be safe for /05:51
eckubuntu: very good, happy turkey day to you too05:51
asfaltbruenig i think will do just that, thats how i had windows on it, 10gb os, rest data + little hidden fat partition with the image of the os05:51
obo I was wondering if anyone can help me rebuild a single kernel module for the stock ubuntu kernel05:51
ubuntuty eck05:52
maurox60 GB for /home ??05:52
kitcheVigoFusion: iptables is the firewall it runs by default firestarter just makes it easier to set it up for people that don't want to learn the cli commands for iptable05:52
ferossz9999: right but it's not because of nm ... must be something else that's setting everything up. you did a 'locate profiles.xml' right? ... I think it might have changed in edgy.05:52
asfaltmaurox yeah i guess so05:52
mauroxthats too much05:52
bruenigasfalt, yeah that is what I do, but then again I don't generally have too much in the form of extra software and such installed05:52
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ubunturunning live here nomally win 200005:52
djancakis there a flash player for ubuntu that isnt macromedia?05:52
bruenigmaurox, better that space be unused in /home than unused in /05:52
VigoFusionkitchie: Thank you, I like to learn! =-O05:52
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mauroxi have 36 GB for linux so 8 GB are for /home and 1 GB for swap and /the rest for /05:53
kitchedjancak: gnash05:53
test2so I created a partition, but when I am in ubuntu's install program, i cannot install to that partition. install wants me to use partition that has windows already installed05:53
gpled~$ sudo apt-get update05:53
gpledE: Malformed line 31 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)05:53
mauroxthat deppend because i have to install a lot of programs :P05:53
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djancakkitche: thanks05:53
bruenigmaurox, and how much of that 36 GB is used?05:53
ubuntuunbuntu works with mac too05:53
asfaltwhaf if you want to store more then 3 dvd's in /home maurox :D05:53
kitchemaurox: on an average system / never goes over 5GB's05:53
gpledanyone else getting this?05:53
ferossdjancak: I think there is an os flash plugin but it probably doesn't work very well.05:53
bruenigdjancak, take into consideration that gnash doesn't have sound and doesn't really "work"05:54
bimberi!info libflash-mozplugin | djancak05:54
ubotulibflash-mozplugin: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - Mozilla-compatible plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 100 kB05:54
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djancakbruenig: oh really? okay :(05:54
mauroxclean install 20% used of / :)05:54
brueniglibflash-mozplugin is a joke05:54
ubuntuhey pirite u in here????05:54
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bruenigmaurox, so that is what 7 Gigs?05:54
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mauroxasfalt and if i want to have 3 ddvs i have other partitions for that /Music and /Movies :)05:55
gpledhere is the line it does not like:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy05:55
balderBruenig   thanks  a lot  you are the only one can helpme with my problem05:55
gpledshould i just comment it out?05:55
mauroxbrueing yes al leat 7 GB05:55
mauroxleast05:55
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brueniggpled, you need to add things after the edgy, things like "main" or "universe" or "multiverse"05:56
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thinhanyone ehre?05:56
thinhhere?05:56
VigoFusionno05:56
Paviyes05:56
Pavi1105:56
thinhlol05:56
VigoFusionmaybe05:56
brueniggpled, if you would pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list, I could look at it and make the appropriate changes05:56
thinhwasnt sure it thankgiving after all05:56
bruenig!paste | gpled05:56
ubotugpled: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:57
thinhi have a question05:57
balderBruenig   thanks  a lot  you are the only one can helpme with my problem    Bruenig   also  I want to apologize for my bad english  thanyou  again   see you latter05:57
bruenigbalder, np05:57
JLgo ahead thinh05:57
JLthrow it out there05:57
gpledhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33616/05:58
cmwebI get a problem when i setup Firestarter Firewall. i Go throught the setup enabling DHCP Internet Share and startup on dialup and click finish and it gives an error saying that i need to" Please check your network device settings and make sure you internet connection is active" i have done all this and still.05:58
thinhi have 2 partion on windows that i want to mount should i map both under media/windows or media/windows and media/something else?05:58
gpledbruenig: it strange that synaptic would mess the file like that05:59
JLthinh, i use /media/windows-c and /media/windows-d05:59
eckthinh: normally you would map them to two different places05:59
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test2is it possible to install ubuntu to a partition??05:59
z9999feross: no profiles.xml found, but everything is working like previously.05:59
JLthinh, i just added it to /etc/fstab05:59
brueniggpled, you don't have universe enabled, if you wish to do that, you can just change the last line to deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe. If you don't want universe you can just comment it out or delete or whatever.05:59
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Moosejawhi all05:59
Moosejaw:)05:59
thinhbut i have to make the directories in the same name right?05:59
JLthinh, correct06:00
ecktest2: i don't think there is any other way from the ubuntu installer06:00
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thinhcool thanks06:00
JLthinh,   sudo mkdir -p /media/windows-c06:00
JLthinh,   sudo mkdir -p /media/windows-d06:00
Moosejawjust installed ubuntu for the first time...and need a bit of help.  I have followed the instructions on installng ndiswrapper but when i go to install the driver it says that ndiswrapper isnt a command etc...06:00
Moosejawis there a different way i might go about making it work?06:00
ferossz9999: hmm ok, I guess you might as well take nm out of the picture since you're not using it. Look in System>prefs>session and take it out of there if you're not going to use it.06:00
Moosejawi have redone it 3 times...06:00
gpledburzum: adding universe to the end of line 31 seem to fix it.  thanks06:01
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wapityyylevander: still no luck06:02
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eckMoosejaw: make sure that ndiswrapper is installed, and if it is make sure that it is in your path06:02
thinhhow do i remove a folder?06:02
thinhtry to use rm but not working06:03
bruenigthinh, rm -rf /path/to/folder06:03
eckrm -rf06:03
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test2ok, i already have a partition created. but Install program insists on installing to Windows partition AND the created partition.06:03
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kitchethinh: I would empty the fodler out then runt he rmdir /path/to/folder06:03
kitchefolder*06:03
ademandoes posix describe a high resolution timer?06:04
gpledburzum: woops, now i get this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33619/06:04
bimberitest2: is the "format" checkbox next to the windows partition checked?06:04
thinhthanks06:04
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thinhanyone good with tv tuner?06:04
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Moosejaweck: here is what i have done to install it06:04
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Moosejawplease let me know if i missed anything06:04
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pcherohi06:05
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PyR3Xhow can you tell what the binary is for an installed package?06:05
Moosejawenter dir... sudo make...than sudo make install06:05
bimberiPyR3X: 'dpkg -L <package> | grep bin'06:05
eckMoosejaw: this is for ndiswrapper?06:05
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brueniggpled, make sure it doesn't say deb http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe, it needs to say deb http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy universe, no /, just a space06:05
ferossPyR3X: try whereis or which .. eg 'which ls'06:05
Moosejawyeo06:05
Moosejawyes06:05
eckMoosejaw: did you try installing the ndiswrapper from the repositories?06:06
Moosejawthan sudo ndiswrapper -i &.inf (in dir where the  inf file is06:06
tony_i have a radeon 9200 and it won't go to 1280x1024 resolution. anyone have any tips?06:06
Moosejawuhmm...no06:06
z9999feross: I found something else, I'm not to familiar with GUI apps, but found under Syetem, Administration, something called Windows Wireless Drivers, and clicked on it and it brings up a window called network settings. The location field has Wireless, eth1, and wlan0 as options and I'm not sure what to do with this yet. This may be where I should be looking to get the wireless working.06:06
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Moosejawi am not too familiar with the repositories thing since i am so new06:06
tony_i've enabled "1280x1024" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:06
eckMoosejaw: 'sudo make uninstall' and then add multiverse to your sources.list and then run 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper'06:06
tony_but it still doesn't work.06:06
Moosejawok06:06
ferossz9999: cool06:06
Moosejawcool06:06
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bruenigtony_, you restarted x after you changed right?06:07
tony_yes, i even rebooted just to make sure06:07
eckMoosejaw: in the future when you want to install something just 'apt-get xxxx'06:07
Moosejawmultiverse is found in the system settings right?06:07
Moosejawok06:07
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cmwebCvan anyone in here help me create a policy in firestarter06:07
Madpilothi mnepton06:08
ferossg2g gn all06:08
tony_bruenig: do you think it's a driver issue?06:08
eckMoosejaw: add it to the end of the lines starting with deb in the file /etc/apt/sources.list06:08
Moosejaweck: lastly the repositories are not on the cd, but online right?06:08
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z9999feross: It looks like I may have to search for some info on how to use this as I can't find a way to enter any info yet.06:08
Moosejawok06:08
bruenigtony_, not sure06:08
asfaltregarding dvd players like in my notebook, they have a limited number of region changes before they become locked. under windows i had a utility which overcame this and allowed me to play different region discs without causing my player to change them. is there such tool for linux? i noticed regionset util, but that seems to set the drive06:08
tony_dang06:08
tony_have any ideas on what i can try to do?06:09
bruenigtony_, not big on the xorg.conf, it always just worked for me. Hence very little knowledge. I tend to learn from necessity as opposed to genuine interest06:09
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eckMoosejaw: this is what mine looks like: http://rafb.net/paste/results/v5IQUe71.html06:09
tony_alright, thanks anyway06:09
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thinhmy sounds get messed up due to my tv tuner card06:10
bruenigcmweb, I have only made one policy in firestarter. That was to forward the bittorrent ports. I can try, but would likely be of little help for anything remotely complex06:10
gpledbruenig: nice catch.  it had deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ edgy universe.  note the / after .com06:10
cmwebI just want to foward port 80 and 21 and 2306:11
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cmweband some other (basic webhosting ports)06:11
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bruenigcmweb, go to policy, make sure the right thing is clicked, inbound or outbound policy. Not sure which is necessary for your thing. Right click in the correct box and select add rule. The rest should be fairly easy06:12
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Andaluz_LNXmeep06:12
Andaluz_LNXanyone know where the mplayer codecs are in dapper?06:13
cmwebis that is. But Thanks06:13
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PwcrLinuxhappy thanksgiving :)06:13
bruenigcmweb, yes very simple thankfully, iptables is a mess06:13
cmweb:-P06:14
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Pavi;)06:14
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Pavianybody having movies06:15
Vienghi all06:15
cmwebi keep getting an error that this http://cmweb.zapto.org:80 is not a correct host06:15
bruenig!hi | Pavi06:15
ubotuPavi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:15
Pavithx06:15
bruenig!thanks | Pavi06:15
ubotuPavi: You're Welcome!06:15
Paviso whats up !!!!06:15
bruenig!offtopic | Pavi06:15
ubotuPavi: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!06:15
Pavik06:16
Pavido anybody has good movie06:16
umopsHas anyone got a decent tool to convert mutiple HTML files into a single PDF?06:16
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cmwebonce i get this im popin in a dvd and goin to bed...  Can some one test http://cmweb.zapto.org for my firewall06:16
bruenigcmweb, problem loading page06:17
cmweberror?06:17
bimberisame here06:17
cmwebor wont load?06:17
cmweboh duh06:17
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CowzRule06:17
bruenigcmweb, won't load, I get the firefox problem loading page thing06:17
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cmwebI got it set to accept from cmweb.zapto.org06:18
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kitchecmweb: you have to restart iptables06:18
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cmwebkitche, got a command for it?06:19
cmwebor il google it and take longer06:19
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kitchecmweb: should be in the initscript fodler you just restart the init script for iptables06:19
cari_tmen_ceCWEX IMOET....!!!06:20
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cmweboh great i cant even go on firefox for it06:20
cmwebAHAA i found the thing06:21
ivxhey i am trying to setup proftpd, i made an account and when i log into it it just show the files like it would if there isn't and index and you view the site with apache, how do you get it to it will let your drag files over like the nautilus06:21
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cmwebkitche, im sorry i think i got it though06:22
WhiteNoiseOK - I upgraded to Edgy using the upgrade-manager -c option, default kernel didn't work, finally got in and compiled a working vanilla 2.6.18 kernel (w/ madwifi and nvidia) -- now boots, but root=UUID=XXX doesn't work, only root=/dev/hda6.  Do I need to patch the vanilla kernel to get it to use UUID?06:22
Pavii am unable to upgrade dude06:23
kitcheWhiteNoise: you probably do since it's mostly a Ubuntu thing that uses UUID06:23
Paviwith this upgrade manager06:23
Pavifrom breezy to edgy06:24
WhiteNoisekitche - OK, I'll poke around some more and see what turns up.06:24
cmwebkitche, please try again to see if you get through06:24
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kitchecmweb: my links just sits there and says Making Connection06:24
SpottyfoxI need a program that can download music files from a Rio Karma that's about to die. I managed to get the OMFS driver installed so I can mount it, but I can't get libkarma to compile so I can actually make sense of the stored files on it. Anyone have any suggestions?06:24
cmwebgah.... things a peice of ****06:25
cmwebi changed it to localhost06:26
cmwebkitche, anything?06:27
kitchecmweb: my links just sits there and says Making Connection06:27
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cmwebi wish some one would do a remote connection and do this for me....06:27
cmwebok i restarted the firewall06:28
dxdemetriouwhen I try to make full screen the krdc on gnome, some times work and others covers all place without the taskbars. How can I fix it?06:29
cmwebkitche, refresh06:29
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PyR3XWhat's the difference between standby, suspend, and hibernate?06:30
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kitchecmweb doesn't work06:31
gpledanyone have luck getting flash to play in 6.10?06:31
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crimsungpled: use one of the backports if you're on ia3206:31
Pelogpled,  yes  it works well enough06:31
kitchecmweb: you on dialup?06:31
cmwebthis sucks i got a site but no firewall im getting my *** hacked all over06:31
agentis it possible to change the clock format (as in using custom date strings like M:Y:d, etc.)06:31
cmwebye06:31
kitchecmweb: that's probably why it takes so long to load06:32
gpledhow did you get it to work?06:32
bimberigpled: yes, what's your issue with it?06:32
gpledmine just hangs06:32
bimberi!fffc06:32
ubotuIf Firefox is crashing on sites using Flash try adding "export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1" to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc (ref: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 )06:32
Pelo!flash9 | gpled06:32
ubotugpled: You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html06:32
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cmwebkitche, im hitten 6KB sec06:32
cmwebfaster tahn ie ever had06:32
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PyR3XOn websites with a lot of flash like myspace, firefox gets extremely slow any fix for that?06:33
RoC_MMGet a newer flash plugin06:33
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PyR3XI have the flashplugin-nonfree06:33
buchanAny way to get Netbeans installed via apt-get?06:34
RoC_MMTry a different browser and compare the experience.  If it's the same it's the plugin's fault.06:34
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big_reaanyone know good (and free) computer algebra system?06:34
hilltopHello all, I just tried to boot fluxbuntu. Can anyone tell me what is the login account and password for the liveCD? Thanks much.06:34
Pelobig_rea,  search for one in synaptic06:35
big_reauser: fluxbuntu pass livecd i think06:35
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hilltopthanks big_rea06:37
Moosejawhrm...06:37
big_reasure06:38
Moosejawstill cant get ndiswrapper to work06:38
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Moosejawi did the apt-get install but when i do sudo ndiswrapper -i *.inf it doesnt work06:38
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big_reaPelo, sorry about that, im new here, just tryin to help the guy out06:38
kitchecmweb: umm man I m dropping a lot of packets to your server06:38
big_reaah06:39
big_reasheesh, everybody's got jokes today06:39
cmwebany getting bounced...06:39
cmwebi dont notice it06:39
big_rea'cept me apparently06:39
Moosejawcacan anyone help me get ndiswrapper working?06:40
kitchecmweb: yeah apparently all of my packets are getting bounced06:40
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PeloMoosejaw,  anyreason why you are using apt-get and not synaptic to install it ?  it might be easier06:40
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Moosejawwell no...but i did both06:41
kishanHI there people got a question how to clean files in ubuntu06:41
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corevettehey06:41
kishani mean the internet file can u please help06:41
corevettehow come my make command doesn't work06:41
Moosejawand with synaptic i check what i wanted to install...but wasnt sure if it worked06:41
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cmwebkitche, what do i put in the "to internal host" Box?06:42
Moosejawhow do i make sure ndiswrapper gets installed from synaptic06:42
corevetteplease06:42
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kitchecmweb: nothing that I know of06:42
corevettemy laptop is low on battery06:42
RoC_MMkishan, what browser do you use?06:42
Pelokishan,  you mean the history  ?06:42
corevettehow come my make command doesn't work06:42
cmwebkitche, well it wont lwet me close without something06:42
kishanRoc_MM i use firefox06:42
RoC_MMThere's a Clear Private Data feature kishan ..look on the second to last menu.06:43
kishanbut i want to know how to deleate all the waste files as we do in windows06:43
big_reacorvette: are you able to plug your laptop in?06:43
RoC_MMRight before the Help menu kishan .06:43
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PeloMoosejaw, system >admin > synaptic package manager,  search :  whatever ,  if it is installed it will be in green06:43
Moosejawk06:43
kitchecmweb: make it the local box or something06:43
corevettebig_rea not right now06:43
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big_reacorvette : ah what are you trying to make?06:44
kishanRoC_MM: i do that i mean does it clear everything06:44
corevettebig_rea whenever i type in make it says command not found06:44
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RoC_MMkishan, it will do exactly what it says it will do.06:44
corevettebig_rea madwifi06:44
cmwebkitche, firewall restarted and ready, resubmite info06:44
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kishanRoC_MM: thank you06:44
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RoC_MMnp06:45
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kishanAny body in here with medicine background06:45
cmwebkitche, i see you in Time: Nov 24 00:45:37 Source: c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net Destination: dialup-4.91.111.82.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net In IF: ppp0 Out IF:  Port: 392 Length: 40 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown your doing everything06:46
Pelokishan,  what do you need to know ?06:46
corevetteso i unzipped the madwifi folder, but i can't use the 'make' command!06:46
kitchecmweb: that's not me06:46
kishanPelo: just wanted to know any softwares aviable for medicine06:46
kitchecmweb I have verizon06:46
corevette*file06:46
cmwebthen who the06:46
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Pelocorevette,   in synaptic,  install buid-essential06:46
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RoC_MMcmweb, you just put up my IP?06:47
Pelokishan,  I wouldn't know about that06:47
cmwebthats you?06:47
RoC_MMIt was.06:47
cmwebyou are still on06:47
kishanhmm Pelo u doctor06:47
dawkirstHello. Is there any flash player support for Firefox for a 64-bit architecture?06:47
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kitcheRoC_MM: your ip can be found anyways just by doing a whois on you so it's not like he pasted something that is private06:47
cmwebRoC_MM: log out of my sever your in every port06:47
Pelokishan,  no,  I just thought you had a minor problem and I use to teach first aid06:48
RoC_MMYou mentioned some server earlier but you appear to maybe be on dialup so I portscanned you to see if you were running anything I could help with.06:48
RoC_MMThank you kitche I really didn't know that.  </sarcasm>06:48
murchadh_bhaba.06:48
cmwebits still port scanning06:48
kishanPelo, thank you ..i am new to linux wanted to learn about it06:48
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RoC_MMcmweb, I'm pretty sure it's not, but I can do it again if you'd like.  It didn't come back with any open ports...what was this server you mentioned earlier?06:49
Pelokishan,  look under the application , add/remove ,  there might be some apps in there,06:49
cmwebcmweb.zapto.org06:49
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gpledhas anyone gotten flash 9 to work?06:49
kishanhmm thnks Pelo i will have a look06:49
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cmwebRoC_MM: i still have like over 50 connections inbonr from your IP06:49
gpleddo i have to install 7, then copy the 9 plugin?06:49
kishanPelo what do u suggest KDE or gnome06:49
dawkirstI receive this message when trying to install the flash player plugin: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the06:49
dawkirst       Macromedia Flash Player installer.06:50
dawkirstAny suggestions?06:50
kitchedawkirst: yes x86_64 isn't supported by Adobe Flash Player06:50
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RoC_MMcmweb, I'm not connected to you at all, I just checked netstat.06:50
Pelokishan,  your choice , I like gnome but I still use some kde progs06:50
dawkirstkitche: any alternative?06:50
kitchedawkirst: well you can use a plugin wrapper06:50
cmwebTime: Nov 24 00:50:43 Source: 66.177.58.16 Destination: 4.91.111.82 In IF: ppp0 Out IF:  Port: 53 Length: 40 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: DNS06:50
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RoC_MMdawkirst, I think you may be able to work around it by using a 32-bit version of firefox...then you can use 32-bit plugins as well until the vendors get into shape.06:51
dawkirstkitche: care to elaborate? ;)06:51
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kishanPelo, i mean for genereal desktop net browsing and using multimedia is KDE better than genome06:51
RoC_MMcmweb, is "cmweb.zapto.org" a website or ?06:51
kitchedawkirst: nspluginwrapper is used to make x86 plugins run on x86_64 processors06:51
cmwebyes i use it for everything06:51
dawkirstkitche: thanks.06:52
maltis it hard to make a wire/wired router with a laptop running ubuntu os?06:52
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Pelokishan,  personnaly I just don't like the feel of kde,06:52
haxalitymalt: no, but a lot of other distros would probably work better06:52
corevett1sorry whoever was talking me about my 'make'06:52
corevett1command problem06:52
Pelokishan,  try both , decide for yourself06:52
corevett1did anyone answer me?06:52
agentis it possible to remove the icon from the battery charge tray? i cant find anything in gconf06:52
RoC_MMmalt, you mean make the machine into a router??  Usually you would use a desktop for this...06:52
Pelocorevette,   in synaptic,  install buid-essential06:52
haxalityRoC_MM: could be an older laptop06:52
RoC_MMcmweb, no webserver on cmweb.zapto.org.06:52
Pelocorevett1,  do you listen when someone talks to you ?06:52
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corevett1pelo, what is it?06:53
corevett1pelo, buid-essential06:53
cmwebits the firewall if i disable it youl see it all06:53
Pelocorevett1,  it's the stuff you need to use make06:53
cmwebso06:53
cmwebCome on in06:53
corevett1pelo, can i download it somewhere? i don't have the computer hooked up to the internet06:53
cmwebljl, are you on?06:54
Pelocorevett1,    in menu > system > admin > synaptic ,  search >build essential ,  install,  then you can do complie manaualy06:54
Pelocorevett1,  it should be on the installation cd06:54
corevett1pelo, pretend i lost the installation cd06:54
Pelocorevett1,  then you are screwed because I am not that 133706:54
cmwebFirewall off so refresh06:55
cmwebdang06:55
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cmwebbadwith mania06:55
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corevett1pelo06:55
nanomikecorevett1, Search for buid-essential as a .deg pakage06:55
corevett1pelo, i got the cd06:55
kitchecmweb: your page came up but it's just slow due to dial up I would suggest looking into getting a dedi server06:55
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RoC_MMcmweb, I applaud you for hosting off of dial-up06:55
corevett1pelo, but i can't fidn it on the cd06:55
corevett1pelo, how do i get it06:56
Pelocorevett1,  pop the cd in and go to synaptic like I told you06:56
cmweb:-D06:56
cmwebkitche, a dedicated server?06:56
RoC_MMA nice little website...what are you going to use it for?06:56
Peloor try waht nanomike  told you to do06:56
cmweblike ubuntus server?06:56
cmwebRoC_MM: webhosting lol06:56
jmlon the server installation menu, what does "LAMP server" really actually mean?06:57
RoC_MMwebhosting is much cheaper than a dedicated server.06:57
corevett1pelo, it says like gcc is not installable06:57
RoC_MMjml, Linux Apache MySQL and PHP.06:57
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cmwebalthoug, i got an old windows 98 compaq in the backroom collecting dust06:57
Pelocorevett1,  then I don'T know,  dl the dvd instead it's on there for sure06:57
jmlRoC_MM: as in, it will install apache, mysql and php?06:57
agent!lamp > jml06:57
corevett1pelo, my dvd burner doesn't work06:57
RoC_MMjml, that sounds about right.06:57
RoC_MM!lamp > RoC_MM06:57
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cmweb!lam06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:58
cmweb!lamp06:58
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.06:58
Pelocorevett1,  like nanomike  told you , search for a  buid-essential  .deb package06:58
agentlol06:58
Peloon google06:58
corevett1pelo hold on06:58
agenteveryone spams jml with !lamo :)06:58
jmlI'm familiar with the term. It's just when I see a menu that says "DNS Server; LAMP Server" I get a little nervous.06:58
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dawkirstDoes Linux ship with native mp3 support?06:58
RoC_MMWhich Linux?06:58
Pelodawkirst,  no but it is easy enought to get06:58
agentno one ships linux :)06:58
bimberidawkirst: not Ubuntu06:58
[pyro] hey all06:59
cmwebkitche, can i set up a dedicated server on this?06:59
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nanomikecorevett1, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/build-essential download and instal06:59
dawkirstPelo: what would you suggest I get?06:59
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ijbgreenanybody can help me?07:00
cmweb!anybody07:00
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:00
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Pelodawkirst, install ubuntu and then get the mp3 support from either the restricted fromat packages or from automatix,07:00
corevett1nanomike, when i install it form the cd , it says a whole bunch o depends, like g++-4.1 is not going to be installed07:00
Pelocorevett1, get the package nano giave you a link to07:00
corevett1pelo read my above statement07:01
Peloor get you computer connected to the net07:01
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nanomikecorevett1, Some of the package are not on the CD, either download them or apt-get install or synaptic to get them07:01
agentdawkirst: asking "does linux have mp3 support?" is like asking "do my tires have a cd drive?" - linux, which is actually gnu/linux, i just the kernel, the "engine" that runs everything07:01
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Pelogotta go , g'night folks07:01
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RoC_MMYeah dawkirst I think you overlook that including mp3 support would violate these things called "patents" possibly.07:01
dawkirstagent: thanks for that analogous snippet ;)07:02
Bilangeissue reguarding wireless installation: my system doesnt seem to see my broadcom 4318 under ndiswrapper. Even if ndiswrapper adds a "wlan0" alias in modprobe, i cant find it under ifconfig or iwconfig. Whats wrong?07:02
Stanislavdoes anyone know why when i load WoW.. the graphical things dont show up (just black) and the screen flickers?07:02
dawkirstRoC_MM: I get you.07:02
cmwebOne more thing before i go.... Ive tryed to install the PSX2 thingi on here and it installed but it wont open. Isnt it a GUI?07:02
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jmlagent: I think GNU/Linux refers to the broader system and Linux is just the kernel.07:02
RoC_MMjml, That sounds right.07:03
agentjml: sure :)07:03
Stanislavanyone got any ideas ; ;? this is writing me insane07:03
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pradeepvglughydhow to open udp port to work with azureus it is showing DHT Firewalled i am using dapper 6.0607:03
agentbut no need to complicate it even further07:03
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RoC_MMpradeepvglughyd, are you running a software firewall?07:04
agentStanislav: search the forum, there are plenty of people that use wine with wow07:04
Stanislavi did.. it ran before.. i reformated.07:04
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pradeepvglughydRoC_MM,no does that come by default07:04
RoC_MMpradeepvglughyd, does it show NAT OK or NAT Error?07:04
Stanislavnow it runs, but the all the graphical things are just black07:04
pradeepvglughydNAT Ok07:05
agentStanislav: ok.... well, i don't use wine so i cannot help  you07:05
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ijbgreenyesterday i updated mi dapper to efty throug apt-get dit-upgrage changing de repositories07:05
cmwebRoC_MM: do you think i should go with a site like myspace? I got the software07:05
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pradeepvglughydRoC_MM,NAT ok07:05
agentStanislav: maybe you are using different video drivers? if it worked before it may be your wine config... i don't know07:05
ijbgreentoday when i started mi computer it sends me a message07:06
l2-mcomm  !07:06
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ijbgreenSIOCSIFADDR: No such device07:06
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ijbgreenanyone knows what is the reason of this problem?07:06
RoC_MMpradeepvglughyd, it's OK if your DHT is unreachable from the outside.  It would help you find peers if any of your torrent's trackers go down though.  It's not an Ubuntu-specific question though.07:06
RoC_MMcmweb, what do you want to accomplish?07:07
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gotitwats the differenc between ubuntu,kubuntu and xubuntu07:07
corevett1 ubuntu uses gnome07:07
haxalityubuntu = gnome07:07
cmwebMy dream is to host but it takes a lot of badwith witch i wont have till may of 200707:07
corevett1kubuntu uses kdje07:07
haxalityxubuntu = xfce07:07
corevett1*kde07:07
haxalitykubuntu = KDE07:07
agentijbgreen: quick search on forum revealed other people that have your exact problem..... search the forum for an answer07:08
pradeepvglughydone more thing the azureus pop up screen comes up at lower right side and when i press hide it refuses to do so07:08
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ijbgreenthanks07:08
corevett1nanomike, do you think if i reinstall ubuntu with edgy eft, make will work?07:08
ijbgreenlet me try it07:08
gotitcan you be more genral plz i dont know wat kdje ,xfce and kde is , i am new to it07:08
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agentijbgreen: just search for: SIOCSIFADDR07:08
rakee1_1981hey all, has anyone had trouble installing the java run time environment and linking it to firefox?07:09
corevett1pelo, do you think if i reinstall ubuntu with edgy eft, make will work/07:09
ijbgreenif i don't found an answer i come back to here07:09
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pradeepvglughydone more thing the azureus pop up screen comes up at lower right side and when i press hide it refuses to do so07:09
haxalitygotit: they are window managers.07:09
RoC_MMgotit, XFCE is a light-weight window manager for older computers.07:09
agentijbgreen: you will because i found an answer in about 5seconds :)07:09
kishanrakeel_1981, use automatrix to install all the accessories for ubuntu07:09
RoC_MMgotit, and as far as kde and gnome look here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome07:09
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cmwebDoes any one in here use PCSX i got it installed but when i click the link it does nothing07:10
nanomikecorevett1, A complete reinstall, then you will need to reinstall build-essential07:10
haxalitygotit: if you've never used linux before, use standard ubuntu or kubuntu. they have the smallest learning curve07:10
kyconquerswhat music program do you all recommend? and what program to listen to internet radio?07:10
rakee1_1981what's automatrix? (sorry to appear ignorant)07:10
haxalitykyconquers: I'm partial to xmms07:10
kishanrakeel_1981, http://www.getautomatix.com/07:10
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agent!automatix07:10
ubotuautomatix is is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Since it is often hard to track and solve problems caused by Automatix, you might find it easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:10
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gotiti heard ubuntu is the best linux, is it true ??07:11
rakee1_1981sorry, just found out07:11
haxalitygotit: there is no such thing as the 'best linux'07:11
rakee1_1981cheers kishan :)07:11
haxalitygotit: it depends on your application.07:11
RoC_MMcmweb, there are lots of free webspace providers....also if you want your own domain name with hosting you can register a domain name through plenty of places....I recommend dreamhost.com for registration and hosting.07:11
kishanhey agent is is bad to install automartix07:11
agentgotit: no... it all depends on who you ask... linux is like food, everyone has their favorite flavors07:11
RoC_MMgotit, it's the most popular or hottest right now.07:11
haxalitygotit: ubuntu is very good for a desktop system if you don't want to do tons of manual configuration07:11
haxalitylike RoC_MM said.07:11
nanomikecorevett1, Do you have access to a internet connection and some sort of removable media. Then download build-essential and as .deb and install from that media07:11
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agentkishan: yes, very.... we helped someone yesterday who installed auzuerus using automatix and had problems because of it07:12
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nanomikecorevett1, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/build-essential07:12
RoC_MMgotit, more info about linux distros is on wikipedia or look on distrowatch.com to see what's hot right now07:12
gotiti want to learn linux guys, i need to learn it fast , should i install desktop system or any thing else07:12
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cmwebRoC_MM, you see the thing is i want to be a FULLY FLEDGED host. Doing my own domain names Ftp, E-mail, the whole kitten caboodle.07:13
kishani too installed almost everything from automartix i never had a problem07:13
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agentgotit: install whatever you want.... ubuntu is a good choice of course07:13
ademani want to create a new updated package for the eclipse cdt (because the old one is incompatible with the current eclipse package) but i've never made a package before, is there any way i can look at what was done for the original cdt package? or is there any description of how to do it? (or even a better channel to ask in)07:13
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eckgotit: get a book07:13
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aztracker1imho ubuntu is the most usable linux distro to date.. just imho though...07:14
gotiti am not a book type , i prefer learning by doing it myself07:14
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haxalityI wouldn't necessarily call Ubuntu most usable, but it strikes the best balance between performance and ease of use, by far07:14
jmlis there a metapackage or something for install gnome?07:14
agentgotit: all this talking is wasting time .... you could have installed ubuntu by now ;)07:14
agentjml: ubuntu-desktop07:14
jmlagent: thanks07:15
haxalitygotit: linux is not something you can pick up in 5 minutes, just a bit of forewarning07:15
RoC_MMcmweb, you will need much more bandwidth than you are paying for now, and possibly more than you might want to pay.  Expect to pay around $100 a monnth or more for something with a fast upload.  For example, I have comcast, but it's only "high-speed" in one direction, downloading...the other direction is the slow upload pipe they give me, and that's bad for servers and hosting...it's 6000kbit on way, but only 384kbit the other way.  Yo07:15
RoC_MMu'll want at least 1000kbit (1mbit) upstream to do serious hosting for serious people.07:15
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haxalityit's just like any operating system, it takes time to learn the quirks07:15
aztracker1haxality, would probably say that...  has been far easier going doing what I want with it than other versions...07:15
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aztracker1versions/distros even.07:15
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corevett1when i try to do a make command, it responds that /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/build is missing, please set KERNALPATH. stop.07:15
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haxalityaztracker1: yeah, I had some awesome point about how it wasn't the easiest to use, but then I realized it pretty much is07:16
agentgotit: also, do note that a lot of distributions (flavors of gnu/linux) have a livecd... you can test the distro before you install! it runs 100% off your cdrom - runs slower, but it runs07:16
cmwebRoC_MM, Im planing to go G4 in May07:16
aztracker1haxality, true enough.. google has been a good friend so far.07:16
haxalityit's that old connection in my brain where a distro has to be slow and bloated to be easy to use07:16
RoC_MMcmweb, and a 1mbit uplink would n't be very nice for more than like a few different people.07:16
corevett1nanomike, when i try to do a make command, it responds that /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/build is missing, please set KERNALPATH. stop.07:16
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RoC_MMcmweb, a G4 is a computer....is that what you mean?  I thought we were talking about bandwidth.07:16
aztracker1haxality, lol.. yeah, I've tried a few dozen distros over the years.. ubuntu 5.10 was the first to be the main os on my desktop.07:17
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haxalityI'm not going to lie, I've had a bit of a love/hate relationship with linux07:17
kishanso What is NAT error in azeurus and how to correcct it any one help07:17
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haxalityI finally got ged up with all the crap MS is handing down to the end user though07:17
haxalityged = fed07:17
RoC_MMkishan, is it a NAT Error, DHT Firewalled, or both?07:17
cmwebRoC_MM G4 is a verry fast verry powerful badwith only avalibal to people within a certain range annd always by satalight it gets four gigabites a sec07:17
haxalityand it was a bit of a challenge to install ubuntu on this laptop, but once I worked the kinks out.. I don't think I can ever go back to windows07:17
aztracker1haxality, honestly me too.. just really sick of MS.. I like VS2005 though, that's about it.. mono at least runs most everything .net now.07:18
cmwebRoC_MM, at leases thats what ive heard07:18
||x|x||how do i replace Firefox 1.5.0.8 with Firefox 2.0?07:18
RoC_MMIs that so cmweb ?07:18
kishanwell RoC_MM when i test the port it says NAT error07:18
aztracker1x, update to edgy07:18
cmwebRoC_MM My Uncle has it07:18
haxalityyeah, digg had an article about linux IDEs an hour or so ago07:18
RoC_MMI very much doubt it's anything near gigabit cmweb .07:18
eckvim ftw :-)07:18
kyconquerslinux ide's?07:18
aztracker1||x|x||, update to edgy...07:18
corevett1when i try to do a make command, it responds that /lib/modules/2.6.17-7-generic/build is missing, please set KERNALPATH. stop.07:18
haxalityintegrated development environment07:18
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RoC_MMcmweb, 4gigabit is 682 times faster than the wired cable modem connection I have here.07:19
haxalityit's a consolidated set of programming tools all in one package that is usually easy to use and tends towards GUI-ness07:19
haxalityif that made sense :x07:19
cmwebRoC_MM, well hell my uncles wrong?07:19
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aztracker1kyconquers, there are a few out there, though eclipse is probably most used...07:19
maltwonder why ddclient is not in my package manger and i got all my updates?07:19
RoC_MMcmweb, if you'd like you can google for "speakeasy speedtest" which has a good speedtest.07:19
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kyconquersI have eclipse right now07:19
haxalitycmweb: we aren't calling you a liar. just saying you might have misheard07:19
dawkirstIs Evolution any good, or should I get Thunderbird?07:19
haxalitycmweb: because that is an obscenely fast connection for an average home user to have07:20
||x|x||:(07:20
RoC_MMIt's borderline absurd.07:20
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pradeepvglughydhow to start bittorrent ??07:20
||x|x||i have to download edgy?07:20
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cmwebIts not for a home user its an office building but he has access at his home07:20
quinnsterIt pretty difficult for me to use the quote key.  I can do it, but it takes me about .5-1 second of holding it down to show up.   Same thing is going on with the tilde ( ~ ).  Is this a keyboard layout issue?  Anything I can do?07:20
RoC_MMUniverisities don't even have connections that fast, even half a dozen put together.07:20
haxalitycmweb: that isn't exactly how it works07:20
ademanquinnster: are you dual booting linux and windows?07:20
aztracker1kyconquers, I've been leaning towards .net/mono over java myself...07:21
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haxalitycmweb: he probably has a VNC connection07:21
quinnsterademan: yes.07:21
ademanquinnster: does it work on windows?07:21
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haxalitycmweb: which means he can access his office LAN but he's still limited by the physical media he's connecting from07:21
quinnsterademan: I never thought to check on there.  Should I try and come back?07:21
ademanbecause honestly, that sounds like a hardware problem to me...07:21
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ademanyeah, definitely check07:21
aztracker1dawkirst, Evolution is more similar to outlook.. thunderbird is better for multiple account handling.07:21
RoC_MMcmweb, you could set up a server at his work...that would work if it's done with the blessing of the network administrators there.07:21
quinnsterademan: ok thanks, brb07:21
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dawkirstaztracker1: thanks.07:22
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RoC_MMcmweb, there is no such thing as a "G4" but there is a T3.07:22
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cmwebgah, il go with the myspace thing07:23
RoC_MMwhich is obscenely fast.07:23
RoC_MMDon't do it, myspace rots your brain.07:23
aztracker1dawkirst, no prob... basically if you want outlook style functionality (not outlook express) go for evolution, if you're like me with 9 email accounts to manage, I use tbird.07:23
VigoFusiongotta reboot? just did an update.07:23
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whohuhwhatevening all, first timer here so be gentle.  Thoughts on running Ubuntu under VMWare as i'm not sure i really want to partition my HD at this time.  will this give me an accurate testing of the OS?07:24
cmwebil get the dam page where it says it07:24
quinnsterademan: hey, I'm on WinXP and the shift key is working as expected.07:24
RoC_MMwhohuhwhat, yes and no07:24
||x|x||aztracker1, i already did execute 'gksu "update-manager -c"' it says my computer is up-to-date.. my firefox is still version 1.5.0.807:25
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RoC_MMubuntu is a livecd, so you may just want to reboot it...hardware detection and compatability is something you really want...a livecd you can just pop in and reboot, and it loads into your ram without needing any immediate install to your hard drive.07:25
RoC_MMyou can test it out fully and see if it works and if you like it07:25
RoC_MMand it won't have the performance overhead of virtual machien software like vmware07:25
whohuhwhatwow, didn't know that, hmmmmm07:25
aztracker1||x|x||, did you look in synaptic then?07:26
RoC_MMbut to anser your question, yes vmware will more or less give you a good idea.07:26
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||x|x||aztracker1, yes07:26
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whohuhwhatexellent that was what i was hoping for, tyvm RoC_MM07:26
||x|x||aztracker1, do i have to "apt-get dist-upgrade"?07:26
aztracker1RoC_MM, vmware runs XP okay on my P42.8 w/ 2gb ram, 768 for the vm07:26
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RoC_MMI'm not surprised07:27
RoC_MM768 megs of ram is a crapload, and vmware is the best virtual machine software out there.07:27
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haxalityyeah...07:27
haxalitythat is a ton of ram07:27
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haxalitymy desktop that was so modern about 3 years ago still only has a gig07:27
aztracker1||x|x||, if the gksu is up to date, maybe not.. use system..administration..synaptic and search for firefox.. see if 2.0 is there, if so uncheck 1.5.x and check 2.007:28
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RoC_MMI give my linux VM's like 256 and XP is greedy so I give it 320.07:28
agent||x|x||: officially, it is not recommened to use apt-get dist-upgrade to upgrade from one ubuntu release to another07:28
haxalitycmweb: what is the problem you're having07:28
jmlagent: what is recommended?07:28
cmweb>:o07:28
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agent!upgrade07:28
RoC_MM||x|x||, you name is gay, but look for a package called "firefox2" it may be in the package system under that name.07:28
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:28
quinnsterI'm having problems typing quotes and tildes on Ubuntu 6.10.  It works on WinXP.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Thanks!07:29
aztracker1RoC_MM, I run Visual Studio, and Paint Shop Pro on my XP vm, so I give it more..07:29
RoC_MMOh07:29
RoC_MMVisual Studio must be greedy as well07:29
aztracker1about all I run under my xp vm.07:29
elkbuntuRoC_MM, that wasnt a very nice thing to say, please apologise to ||x|x||07:29
haxalityquinnster: sounds like a problem with your keyboard layout.07:29
aztracker1VS isn't so bad... photo stuff saps the ram though..07:29
haxalitytry gnome-keyboard-properties07:29
aztracker1eats even.07:29
agent!edgy > jml07:29
||x|x||:(07:29
RoC_MMIT's a pain to type the first few characters of ||\\||07:30
jmlagent: I know all of that about edgy :)07:30
haxalityRoC_MM: you don't have tab completion?07:30
quinnsterI tried changing between the defaults... Maybe I need to try some more.  I'm on a Toshiba Satellite A75-S209 laptop.  Any inside tips?07:30
RoC_MMhaha07:30
RoC_MMmy brother has one of those07:30
agentjml: then you should already know the official upgrade method which is mentioned on that page07:30
marshalltoshiba setellietes are nice07:30
RoC_MMI'm surprised you could find the tilda.07:30
haxalityquinnster: I'm on a tecra M1, myself. my only advice is that toshiba laptops do not like linux at all. they take a bit of convincing07:30
jmlagent: well, I did after you gave me the first link :)07:30
||x|x||agent, if i upgade my drapper to edgy.. what command should i execute?07:30
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agentjml: ok :P07:31
quinnsterYeah, it's quite a different keyboard layout, Roc_MM.07:31
agent!edgy > ||x|x||07:31
haxalityquinnster: my best advice is try googling for some images of standard keyboard layouts, and comparing them with yours..07:31
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RoC_MMMy brother's Toshiba works great with Kubuntu...everything works out of the box perfect.07:31
quinnsterOK, thanks haxality.07:31
haxalityRoC_MM: alright, I guess I mean older toshiba laptops then07:31
||x|x||agent, !edgy at console?07:31
quinnsterSo does this one, but there is a big power issue with it.  I just joined the class action lawsuit.07:31
haxalityRoC_MM: since those are the only ones I really have experience07:31
RoC_MMThere are many models of toshiba laptops.07:31
RoC_MMAnd many generations.07:32
ivxhey i installed proftpd and set it up and also gproftp to config, and i got it setup with a user, and can log in and it is connected to the correct dir, but after login, it just lists the files in the same way that apache does if there isn't an index, what do i have to do so that that user can drag files and copy and all that07:32
haxalityquinnster: ..class-action lawsuit?07:32
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jmlagent: I was simply curious. apt-get dist-upgrade has been taking me to new and exciting linux horizons since slink.07:32
agent||x|x||: lol no.... that is a command in this irc channel, it should have sent you a message about edgy upgrade07:32
||x|x||ahh07:32
||x|x||hehe :D07:32
||x|x||!edgy07:32
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download07:32
quinnsterhaxality: yeah, http://lorisklar.com/07:33
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agent||x|x||: and if i want to send that only to you instead of this whole channel, i write !edgy > ||x|x||07:33
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haxalityaw, that sucks07:33
||x|x||thanks07:33
haxalitytoshiba actually had a decent record as a manufacturer up until that07:33
haxalityheh07:34
||x|x||thank you aztracker1 too07:34
||x|x||:)07:34
maltwonder why ddclient is not in my package manger and i got all my updates?07:34
dawkirsthaxality: while you're on the subject, what is a good brand laptop to invest in?07:34
maltcan i add it some how?07:34
quinnsterhaxality: the computer runs sorta hot.  lots of equipment for the size.  this heat somewhat desolders the AC power adapter (the part just inside the laptop) over time.  Took mine 1+ year.  I took it apart, resoldered it, but now it's going loose again.  Real annoying.  This lawsuit should make toshiba extend everyone's warranty for a year so you can send it back and get it fixed.07:34
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agentjml: i dist-upgraded hoary->breezy->dapper->edgy :) and even dist-upgrade debian->ubuntu07:34
haxalityquinnster: one of the few lawsuits like that that I actually agree with07:35
aztracker1ddclient, is it in the main repository, have you enabled the others (commercial, unsupported, etc)07:35
agentjml: so its definetly possible to use dist-upgrade but you need to know how because things can go wrong07:35
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haxalityand also, props for resoldering stuff inside your laptop07:35
jmlagent: right07:35
haxalityI consider myself decent with a soldering iron but I don't think I have the chops for such an endeavor07:35
haxalityfortunately this thing is rock solid aside from a little wobble in the screen supports07:36
quinnsterhehe, thx.  it's pretty easy to access and isn't surface mount or anything so there's lots of space to work with.  i see these on ebay every other week for 'unknown power problems' selling for parts for like $5007:36
haxalityugh07:36
haxalitythat's unfortunate07:36
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quinnsteri sent the url for the fix to a few of the sellers, but it's easier to sell than solder for them.07:36
haxalityI hate when good hardware is ruined by bad end product design07:36
haxalityis there anything you can do to decrease the operating temp?07:37
Pavican somebody help me upgrading from breezy to edgy07:37
||x|x||agent, is it system safe to upgrade to edgy while running xchat?07:37
haxalityunderclock your CPU, maybe?07:37
Pavihow to do it07:37
aztracker1!edgy07:37
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download07:37
aztracker1Pavi, see above07:37
||x|x||agent, i'm running the upgrade now07:37
haxality||x|x||: due to the way ext filesystems work, files are generally never locked while in use07:37
agent||x|x||: sure.... but you may be disconnected after a while.... depends... but it wont hard anything07:37
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RoC_MM||x|x||, yes.07:38
agent||x|x||: hard = harm07:38
quinnsteryeah, there's poewr management stuff to decrease the brightness and cpu speed.  but, that's also why i bought it.  hopefully i'll be able to send this back and get the fix and be good from there.07:38
haxalityyeah07:38
Pavibut the command " update-manager -c" show no new dist upgrades07:38
gamboosHow would I go about installing a USB game controller?07:38
haxalitythat really bugs me, actually07:38
||x|x||ah.. ic.. thanks07:38
haxalityI see more and more laptops that have 3-prong power adapters, and it's like, wow, what could they possibly need that much juice for07:38
agentPavi: maybe because you are running edgy? :D07:38
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Pavihow to check07:39
RoC_MMhaxality, it's for the 1GB of RAM!07:39
RoC_MMDon't be silly.07:39
haxalityahhhh ok07:39
haxalityhow could I forget07:39
RoC_MM:-P07:39
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quinnsterthe biggest problem is that there are two air intake fans on the bottom of the laptop.  now, there are four 1/2 inch pads to hold it up--that works fine if you're on a table, but for people who use it on their lap, carpet, bed, etc... they fry up fast.07:39
RoC_MMActually the 3rd prong provides no power, it is a ground.07:39
haxalityI know that.07:39
quinnsteri've been using a large book under my laptop for the past year!  this is more of a portable desktop than a laptop.07:39
haxalitybut there is no point in having the 3rd prong on the power cord unless there's a decent amount of amperage running through it07:40
RoC_MMic07:40
quinnsteryeah.  19v 6.3amps for me07:40
agentPavi: the easiest way is system -> about ubuntu07:40
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haxalityquinnster: that sucks, man, I really don't see the logic in putting the primary cooling apperatus for a computer on the one face of it that sees the least cool air07:40
Paviok07:40
dawkirsthaxality: With what laptop brand would you go?07:41
haxalitydawkirst: actually, I'd probably still say toshiba07:41
RoC_MMTitanium.07:41
haxalityjust because my experience with their support infrastructure has been very pleasant07:42
quinnsterdawkirst: to be honest, i'm going back to desktops.  i'm not a fan of laptops, but have had one for work and stuff for the past few years.07:42
RoC_MManything made out of titanium is good.07:42
RoC_MMor duranium.07:42
quinnsterjust make sure you research the wifi, graphics, etc.07:42
haxalityOR DEPLETED URANIUM MUAHAHAHA07:42
haxalityyeah.07:42
RoC_MMhaha07:42
dawkirstOk, thanks.07:42
haxalitydawkirst: I would vote toshiba or IBM for a portable laptop07:42
haxalityno idea for a desktop replacement07:42
RoC_MMDell?07:43
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haxalityalso toshiba is about the only company other than IBM to put trackpoints in theirs07:43
haxalityactually now that I think about it HP makes some awesome media-centric DTR laptops07:43
dawkirstAnd what about laptop CPUs? Allot of them here comes with Celerons, but I don't know about that. I prefer AMD.07:43
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haxalitydawkirst: steer clear of celerons, generally07:43
dawkirstYeah.07:43
dawkirstWhat about Packard Bell?07:43
haxalitythe new ones are considerably better, but they tend to be a terrible value07:43
haxalityhaha, I didn't even know they still existed07:44
dawkirstlol07:44
agentdawkirst: ibm (now under lenovo) are the best laptops.. thinkpad t and x series07:44
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quinnsterdawkirst: check out http://www.linux-laptop.net/, search forums for the model # and the words "review" and "problem", search for people who have done the advanced stuff with your laptop (video binary drivers, wifi, suspend, etc.)--not just 'knoppix works', see how many are being sold on ebay for 'parts', and maybe try calling customer support before you buy it and see how friendly they are! :)07:44
dawkirstagent: thanks, will look into it. Now that I think about it the IBMs impressed me quite a bit.07:44
||x|x||agent, if upgrade is cancelled, could it be continued the next time?07:45
haxalityIBMs are the only laptops I lust after more than toshibas07:45
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agentdawkirst: i would rather get a used thinpad t/x than a new dell (i sold dells so i know they are, uhm, not of good quality)07:45
dawkirstquinnster: thanks!07:45
haxalitydurable, simple, and they have AWESOME keyboards07:45
RoC_MM||x|x||, usually.07:45
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agent||x|x||: i would not try it if i were you...07:46
jmlhaxality: my powerbook is pretty nice (what a shame I can't get wireless working w/ ubuntu)07:46
quinnsterjml, what driver do you have?07:46
RoC_MMyeah but don't do it ||x|x||07:46
quinnsteror, what type of card.07:46
jmlquinnster: bcm43xx07:46
FatpigKidis there an album creator in linux? for photos?07:46
||x|x||oh.. coz i dont have much time to download the packages07:46
jmlquinnster: I posted to the forums w/ the relevant info. sec...07:46
||x|x||my connection is slow07:46
agentFatpigKid: yes, quite a few... in ubuntu edgy there is fspot07:46
||x|x||hmm07:46
quinnsterjml: does it work in other distros?  slackware+ndis?07:47
haxalityoh man, wish I had like 1000 bucks lying around..07:47
dawkirsthaxality: don't we all? ;)07:47
jmlquinnster: I have only tried ubuntu.07:47
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haxalityjml: I like the design of apple laptops, but I don't think I could ever use a single-button interface07:47
quinnsterno, some wish we had more than 1,000. :)07:47
FatpigKidagent, ok ill try it07:47
agent||x|x||: if you are just downloading then yes... you can stop it no problem... but never stop an upgrade once it starts to actually upgrade/install packages07:47
dawkirstNaturally.07:47
jmlhaxality: fair enough.07:47
whohuhwhatdoes Ubuntu come with a IRC client or do you have to install one?07:47
haxalityand I don't want to start a flame war or anything but I've recently gotten somewhat fed up with apple07:48
haxalityheh07:48
quinnsterwhohuhwhat: install xchat.07:48
||x|x||maybe next time.. i'll start upgrading early in the morning07:48
||x|x||:)07:48
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FatpigKidagent, mmm fspot?07:48
agentwhohuhwhat: uuuuuuhhh... you are using irc right now :)07:48
haxalitydon't get me wrong, if I could find one at a decent price I'd pick up a used ibook in a second07:48
FatpigKidagent, cant find the package07:48
jmlquinnster: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30195807:48
||x|x||thanks agent & RoC_MM07:48
quinnsterjml: check out ndiswrapper.  you'll have to confirm your driver, but if it has windows drivers you can usually load it.07:48
agentFatpigKid: its already installed in edgy by default07:48
quinnsterjml: just saw your url... brb07:48
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jmlquinnster: where would I get windows drivers?07:48
agentFatpigKid: applications -> graphics -> fspot07:48
agent||x|x||: your welcome07:49
quinnsterjml: do you dual (or more) boot?07:49
FatpigKidagent, im on dapper, ya thnk i have to dl the source?07:49
dawkirstwhohuhwhat: it does. Gaim.07:49
whohuhwhatyea, i just finished installing Ubuntu with VM ware, this is my windows irc client :(07:49
bongzillagood day07:49
jmlquinnster: no. at the moment I am only running OS X. I tried using Ubuntu on my powerbook then gave up after I couldn't get wireless working.07:49
bongzillaim having problem in my dhcp server07:49
gambooswhohuhwhat: Gaim will do IRC07:50
jml(I need my laptop for work)07:50
bongzilladhcp server already release a private ip from one of the workstation07:50
agentFatpigKid: no.... it's under package f-spot07:50
agentFatpigKid: you need that dash07:50
bongzillabut it can't access the internet07:50
dougskobongzilla: i have all your albums o_O07:50
bongzillabut the workstation can ping the server07:50
Pavihey guys how to check ubuntu version07:51
bongzillabut the server can't ping the workstation07:51
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quinnsterjml: oh! i guess that would make it hard to get windows drivers.  :) i have no experience with apple, but go to the website and see if you can find a driver download for win32.  there are 2 files among them that ndiswrapper can use.07:51
FatpigKidagent, now we're talking07:51
FatpigKidits dl07:51
bongzillabut still the server gave him a ip address07:51
bongzillain need help sir07:51
wenko_anyone know where I can find Ubuntu Themes07:51
agentFatpigKid: good luck... there are other programs available too07:51
whywhenwhereomg it worked :D07:51
jmlquinnster: you mean, go to the apple website?07:52
bongzillaanyone?07:52
bongzillagurus07:52
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bongzillai need help07:52
bongzillaim using ubuntu 6.1007:52
bongzillaand a giga network07:52
whohuhwhati can actually see it on both... rock on07:52
quinnsterjml: no, try whoever makes the card... broadcom?  i'm checking around, too07:52
bongzillaright now im using the server to chat with you07:52
bongzillaplease sirs07:53
StazHi, I have set up my iwconfig (I think its correct) should I be able to ping my router now?07:53
quinnsterstaz: yes07:53
bongzillaNov 24 14:47:20 deathstar dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.200 from 00:11:09:da:f9:f8 (iweb-timesheet)07:53
bongzillaNov 24 14:47:20 deathstar dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.200 to 00:11:09:da:f9:f8 (iweb-timesheet) via eth07:53
bongzillaNov 24 14:52:20 deathstar dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.1.200 from 00:11:09:da:f9:f8 (iweb-timesheet)07:53
bongzillaNov 24 14:52:20 deathstar dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.1.200 to 00:11:09:da:f9:f8 (iweb-timesheet) via eth07:53
dougskobongzilla: so the server can access the internet, but cant ping the workstation. and the workstaion can ping the server, but not the internet?07:53
Stazqinnster unfortunately I cant07:53
bongzillayup07:53
bongzillaexactly07:53
quinnsteryou might not be set up then... key?07:53
Stazquinnster*07:53
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Stazyeah I did iwconfig eth1 enc <mykey>07:54
bongzillayes dougsko, that's the exact problem i have right now07:54
dougskobongzilla: can the server ping the IP of the workstation?07:54
quinnsteryou use dhcp?07:54
Stazno07:54
bongzillayes sir07:54
wenko_anyone know where I can find Ubuntu Themes07:54
dougskobongzilla: ?07:55
quinnsterstaz, nothing's coming to my mind.  i'm helping jml but if i can i'll check something out after that07:55
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bongzillathe ip of the workstation is 192.168.1.20007:55
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Stazcheers07:55
bongzillabut the dhcp server can't ping 192.168.1.20007:55
dougskocan the server ping 192.168.1.200?07:55
dougskobongzilla: ^^^07:55
bongzillathe server can't ping 192.168.1.20007:55
bongzillaand the workstation can't access internet07:55
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quinnsterjml: you still here?07:56
bongzillabut the workstation can ping 192.168.1.107:56
bLaZeDhello all im trying to install these packages and im getting this can anyone help me out? http://pastebin.ulteo.us/25107:56
jmlquinnster: always.07:56
gpledis their an easy way to install firefox32 instead of 64 on an amd running 6.10?07:56
bongzillai need help boss07:56
dougskobongzilla: what OS is the workstation?07:56
bongzillawindows07:56
bongzillawindows xp07:56
bongzilladhcp server is ubuntu 6.1007:56
dougskobongzilla: make sure all firewalls and anti-virus is turned off...at least for while yr testing07:57
quinnsterjml: check out -- http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List -- search for 'BCM4306' and it shows a link for downloads from acer-euro.com.07:57
bongzillaright now i dont have any firewalls07:57
||x|x||RoC_MM, what is the name of a download manager like flashget in ubuntu?07:58
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StazwxDownloadFast?07:58
bongzillaany other option sir?07:58
bongzilla# If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local07:58
bongzilla# network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.07:58
bongzillanon-authoritative;07:58
dougskobongzilla: did you follow a giode or something to do this? so maybe i can retrace yoursteps?07:58
bongzilla# A slightly different configuration for an internal subnet.07:59
bongzillasubnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {07:59
bongzilla  range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.200;07:59
bongzilla  option domain-name-servers 210.14.0.113, 210.14.0.114;07:59
bongzilla  option domain-name "iwebmasters.local";07:59
bongzilla  option routers 192.168.1.1;07:59
bongzilla  option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;07:59
bongzilla  default-lease-time 600;07:59
quinnsterjml: your chip is listed in there multiple times.  one of them has the link.  it might not be the easiest to install, but it definately looks like other people are getting it to work.  i have to go, but best of luck and let me know how it goes or if you need help next time you see me! :)07:59
bongzilla  max-lease-time 7200;07:59
dougsko!paste07:59
bongzilla}07:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:59
bongzillayup07:59
jmlquinnster: thanks07:59
bongzillai follow the guide from the ubuntu docs07:59
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AcidEyEhelp please, i can't install wine on Ubuntu 6.1007:59
dougskobongzilla: hook me up with a link man >_<08:00
bongzillassh?08:00
dougskobongzilla: a link to the guide you followed08:00
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bongzillafor a while08:00
bongzillathanks for helping me08:00
cmwebHello. I am trying to install Macromedia Flash Player and i cant do it any one got any info on it?08:01
dougskocmweb: are you using ff?08:01
haxalitycmweb: what browser08:01
gpledcmweb: you using amd 64?08:01
mneptonsudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree08:01
cmwebdang08:01
bongzillahttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_DHCP_Server_for_automatic_IP_addresses_assignment08:01
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bongzillathat's the link08:02
cmwebFirefox and Proccessor AMD 6408:02
gpledcmweb: you are right where i am at08:02
mneptoncmweb: you'll need a 32bit compat lib for Firefox, or a chroot'ed 32 bit instance.08:02
gpledcmweb: you said 6.10?08:02
cmwebno 6.0608:02
dougskocmweb: i downloaded the installer from the flash website, and ran the installer. the only thing is that it makes the new path to the patched ff, /usr/lib/firefox/firefox08:02
cmweb6.20 hates me08:02
bongzillawhat's the next step dougsko?08:02
gpledcmweb: 6.10 hates me :)08:03
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v3rmapHi, Is there a mono howto for Ubuntu? I need to get started with Mono 1.2.1 on Dapper.08:03
cmwebi installed it and had to reformat08:03
haxality..what?08:03
gpledcmweb: if you get firefox64 bit, which 6.10 gives you, it will not work08:03
Pavido we have to edit repositories for dist-upgrade08:03
cmwebi have dapper08:03
dougskobongzilla: i really dont know. it sounds like a firewall is running on windows, but im not sure08:03
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gpledcmweb: go help about and see what firefox you have08:04
bongzillawindows firewall is already off08:04
cmweb1.5.0.508:04
bongzillaim using a giga network08:04
dougskocmweb: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash08:04
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cmwebI have tryed that but it wont downlaod08:05
cmwebit hangs08:05
gamboosHow would I go about installing a USB game controller?08:05
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gpledcmweb: it sounds like you have the 64 bit firefox08:05
darius_I've upgraded a second laptop to Edgy .. and now the Network Configuration tool does not list the available wireless APs on either laptop.  Both laptops worked just prior to upgrade.  Available APs are listed via 'iwlist scanning' and iwconfig appears to function correctly.  Is there a known bug for this?08:05
bongzillaany other option for this problem sir?08:05
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gpledbongzilla: i have some ideas, be with you in a minute08:06
dougskobongzilla: im really not sure08:06
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bongzillamy god08:06
dougskocmweb: try downloading it with wget, its a pretty reliable dl'er08:06
gpledbongzilla: can you pastbin your ipconfig /all from your xp box?08:06
gpledcmweb: from the reading i have been doing, we must get a 32 bit version of firefox08:07
bongzillai can't paste it08:07
blufoxhow to i open a port on my ubuntu machine ?08:07
bongzillabecause it in the other computer08:07
enycblufox: ?what do you mean 'open'?08:07
bongzillabecause its in the other computer08:07
gpledcan someone show bongzilla the url to pastbin?08:07
cmwebgpled, i got the download and im about to install08:07
dougsko!paste08:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:08
enycblufox: you need to run some program ot order to listen on a tcp port ? or whatever08:08
bongzillaworkstation can't access internet08:08
gpledbongzilla: no browser?08:08
gpledlol08:08
gpledright08:08
ademanis there a way to install a gtk+ theme as root?08:08
blufoxenyc, i setup a apt-cache server but on apt-get update it says conncetion to the server cannot be established ..:(08:08
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dougskoblufox: you can always do a, nc -l -p <port #>08:08
gpledcmweb: all the flash and everything else is based on the 32bit version,08:08
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gpledcmweb: im hoping things will start working when i get that in08:09
blufoxdougsko, thanks i shall try that :)08:09
cmwebim running 64 bit apperantly im getting the installer to work08:09
bongzillai having problem with my dhcp server that's why i can't show you the ipconfig /all of the workstation08:09
cmwebcan i spam?08:09
enycblufox: blufox ok... check if the apt-cache searrver is listenening... login to it and type "netstat -ltn" -- you will then see what TCP ports are listening08:09
gpledbongzilla: what is the ip of the router that gets you on the internet?08:09
MatthewGcmweb: Of course not.08:09
cmwebil show08:09
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dougskocmweb: use the pastebin08:09
cmweb:-P08:09
bongzillathe public ip add?08:09
blufoxenyc, oops i forgot that almost :( ...duh doing it :)08:10
enycblufox: I am not familar with setting up apt-cache servers... but I guess they are a TCP listener on some port number of some form08:10
gpledbongzilla: lan ip08:10
bongzilla192.168.1.108:10
cmwebDantcha wish you could see this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33630/08:10
bradleyi am having a problem loading themes, after i drop them into the theme window only some parts of the theme load.08:10
blufoxyes enyc they are i guess08:10
bongzilla192.168.1.1 - dhcp server08:10
bongzilla192.168.1.200 - workstation08:10
bradleyusually the slider doesn't load... what should i do?08:10
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fooIf fsck says this .. Inode 9224199 was part of the orphaned inode list.  IGNORED. and /dev/sda1 contains a file system with errors, check forced. ... then the filesystem has errors and I need to fix it, right? Also says ... /dev/sda1: ********** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors ******** .. system has no badblocks08:11
gpledbongzilla: how do you have 192.168.1.1 hooked to the internet?08:11
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bongzilla# A slightly different configuration for an internal subnet.08:11
bongzillasubnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {08:11
bongzilla  range 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.200;08:11
bongzilla  option domain-name-servers 210.14.0.113, 210.14.0.114;08:11
bongzilla  option domain-name "iwebmasters.local";08:11
bongzilla  option routers 192.168.1.1;08:11
bongzilla  option broadcast-address 192.168.1.255;08:11
corevett1can someone help me, when i type make...i get the following message: /bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build: No such file or directoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop.08:11
bongzilla  default-lease-time 600;08:11
bongzilla  max-lease-time 7200;08:11
cmwebwhat does this mean NOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the08:11
cmweb      components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.08:11
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foobongzilla: Please don't do that.08:11
dougskobongzilla: dude, USE THE PASTEBIN!!!!08:11
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cmweb!spam |bongzilla08:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:12
bongzillaok08:12
bongzillasorry08:12
cmwebwt08:12
dxdemetriouif the gnome-panel crash, when it reload some icons on notification area disappeared. can I bring them back?08:12
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cmwebNOTE: Please ask your administrator to remove the xpti.dat from the08:12
cmweb      components directory of the Mozilla or Netscape browser.08:12
cmwebWhats it mean08:12
bongzillamy god08:12
cmwebGod*08:12
foocmweb: Once is enough. If someone knows, they will help. Sit tight.08:12
bongzillaso frustrating08:12
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foobongzilla: Patience is a virtue.08:12
dougskocmweb: are you running the installer?08:12
bongzillathanks foo08:12
blufoxenyc, yes it is listening on the port i specified in the conf file08:12
cmwebYES08:12
dougskocmweb: whats the default?08:13
foocmweb: Easy with all caps, we aren't paid to help. All caps implies you are yelling.08:13
cmwebhu08:13
enycblufox: ok so far08:13
enycblufox: from the other machine,08:13
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gpledbongzilla: on the xp box, can you ping 192.168.1.1?08:14
enycblufox: try "telnet (server) (port)" -- e.g. "telnet 192.168.2.53 8100" or whatever it is08:14
blufoxi mean d server is listening08:14
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blufoxok enyc :)08:14
bongzillayes sir08:14
bongzillai can ping08:14
bongzillai can ping 192.168.1.108:14
enycblufox: (grom the machine where you are trying to agt-get)08:14
cmwebdougsko, /home/clint08:14
zebulon25hi everybody08:14
gpledbongzilla: on the xp box, what do you show as the gateway?  you can see this with ipconfig /all08:14
dougskoblufox: nmap is an invaluble tool when doing stuff like that. you can use it test if your ports are open very easily08:14
blufoxenyc, i m trying to see if it works from the server only08:15
blufoxit doesnt even works for the server itself08:15
blufoxenyc, it doesnt even works for the server itself08:15
bongzillagateway is 192.168.1.108:15
dougskocmweb: cmweb whats is that directory?08:15
cmwebi found it08:15
blufoxok enyc08:15
enycblufox: hrrm firewall on server??08:15
dougskocmweb: ...please dont paste its contents :D08:15
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enycblufox: can't even "telnet localhost (port)" on the server-machine itself?08:16
dougskocmweb: oh, thats yr home dir, isnt it?08:16
dougskocmweb: nm08:16
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cmwebMozilla installation directory  = /home/clint/.mozilla08:16
gpledbongzilla: how did you setup routing on your 192.168.1.1 ?08:16
dougskocmweb: whatever, just hit [enter]  and go with the default08:16
cmwebyou dont know where im at08:17
dxdemetrioucan I bring back the programs on notification area if gnome panel crash and disappeared?08:17
blufoxi can telnet from the local machine enyc08:17
bongzillacan you give me an idea with that08:17
bongzillarouting08:17
dougskocmweb: ok...08:17
gpledbongzilla: i think what you did was setup a dhcp server that works.  but you are now working on making the dhcp server a router08:17
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enycblufox: are you sure the service is listeneing on all interfaces andd not just localhost?08:18
bongzillawhat should i do sir08:18
gpledbongzilla: is there any other dhcp servers on your network?  like a dsl modem, or access point?08:18
enycblufox: look at the line in "netstat -ltn"08:18
z9999Does anyone know where to obtain the information to be placed in  wireless_key entry of /etc/network/interfaces file?08:18
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bongzillanop08:19
blufoxenyc, it says Local adrress as 0.0.0.0:314208:19
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enycblufox: ok that means all interfaces08:19
bongzillaa straight ds3 connection08:19
AcidEyEfrom where i can download new themes for Ubuntu 6.10?08:19
bongzillathen i just connect the server in the core switch08:19
blufoxenyc, and foreign adrress as 0.0.0.0:*08:19
gpledbongzilla: just to test things do ipconfig /releaseall08:19
bongzillaand set the public ip add in eth108:19
enycblufox: that means any other host can connect in stort08:19
dayahow can i add to panel an icon (such as keyboard indicator) by directly editing a file?08:20
gpledbongzilla: then to ipconfig all .  you should see all 000008:20
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bongzillain the workstation08:20
bongzillaok08:20
gpledbongzilla: then do renew08:20
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blufoxenyc, but it is not connecting somehow :(08:20
fallingdutchhi all, does anyone know what to do if you bundle some files together in a package that have different licenses (BSD, GPL and LGPL) do i have to split them into different packages or can i refer in the copyright to the licences on the system , claiming wich part uses which license? (a link would be cool, too)08:20
gpledbongzilla: to see if you get the ip address again08:20
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blufoxenyc, it says conncetion failed for all the serves in the sources.list on doing a apt-get update08:21
fooheading out, late - I'll be back tomorrow, thanks moonie and AlienX08:21
enycblufox: now... you know the ip address of the server machine?  check with ''ifconfig''08:21
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gpledbongzilla: any luck?08:21
bongzillait turns into 0.0.0.008:21
enycblufox: ON the server do "telnet (ip) 3142" -- does that connect (you know it works for localhost)?08:22
VigoFusio1Hot Dawg! that was easy, TBird installed from GUI thingy08:22
gpledbongzilla: you know how to renew ?08:22
bongzillayup08:22
gpledbongzilla: did you get your addresses back?08:23
bongzillai already did it then it back again in 192.168.1.20008:23
bongzillayup08:23
bongzillait back08:23
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gpledbongzilla: and gateway 192.168.1.108:23
bongzillayup08:23
blufoxenyc, i can telnet the machine at desired port08:23
bongzillaexactly08:23
enycblufox: ok,, ,now do the same thing from ANOTHER machine08:23
gpledbongzilla: ok, good job on getting your dhcp working :)08:24
enycblufox: (not from the server)08:24
gpledbongzilla: think you just need to fix your route table08:24
bongzillahow can we do that?08:24
bongzillathe route table08:24
Shadow_milis there anyway I can setup so my video out is my video in?08:24
maltanyone here use ddclient?08:24
gpledbongzilla: type route08:24
blufox yes enyc i understand that ;), yup working from the client machine too08:25
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bongzillaok08:25
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gpledcan you past the output to the pastbin?08:25
gpled!pastbin08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
bongzilladid you see my message08:26
gpledcan someone help me with the pastbin address?08:26
gpledyou have to copy the url in the channel08:26
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Alpha2Hi, I'm trying to install stuff for edgy, but don't have my dvd on me - isn't there a repository in the interwebs that has all the same packages?08:27
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gpledbongzilla: url = browser address from pastbin when you post08:27
bongzillawhat is a pastbin? that new...08:27
bongzillaoh08:27
bongzillathat's nice08:27
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gpled!postbin08:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about postbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:27
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haxalityoh noes my caffeine is wearing off08:28
gpled!pastebin08:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:28
gpledlol08:28
gpledcant spell08:28
gpledbongzilla: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:29
Alpha2sooo, about this repository that has the same packages as the edgy dvd...08:29
bongzillaok sir08:29
bongzillafor a while08:29
Alpha2*polite cough*08:29
bongzillahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33632/08:30
Viscid2What's the best text editor or IDE for python projects?08:30
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Alpha2there's a pydev plugin for Eclipse08:30
bongzillashould i paste the link after a paste it?08:30
Alpha2google for easy eclipse : the LAMP distro08:30
bongzillashould i paste the link here after a paste it?08:30
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bongzillawhat's next sir gpled.08:31
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bongzillai already paste sir08:32
Viscid2Alpha2: thanks08:32
enycblu hrrm maybe there is a problem with your litnes in sources.list08:32
gpledlooking at it08:32
bongzillathanks08:32
enycblufox: ?08:32
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corevett1When I installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft, my wireless card doesn't work. So I decided to give MadWifi a try. So i extracted the folder, and when i typed 'make,' this came up:08:34
corevett1razor@razor-laptop:~/madwifi-0.9.2$ sudo make Password: /bin/sh:line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build: No such file ordirectoryMakefile.inc:89: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/build ismissing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop.razor@razor-laptop:~/madwifi-0.9.2$08:34
corevett1how do i get this to work?08:34
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jernsthello, is someone here familiar with ltsp/muekow ?08:35
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gpledcan someone look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33632/  and make sure this would work for a router?08:36
Paviwhats muekow08:36
DTGevening all, what is a good package to use to set up an anonymous ftp server?08:36
jernstPavi: it's the codename of the next version of LTSP (the one included in dapper and edgy)08:36
bongzillasir08:37
omeganineWhat kernel should i be using for a duel core CPU?  Is it -smp or just 686?08:37
Pavithx jernst08:37
bongzillastill there?08:37
enycomeganine: -smp08:37
Viscid2Alpha2: thanks, btw08:37
omeganineCool, thanks.08:37
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enycomeganine: however in edgy they have a generic kernel with smp etc. always seemingly08:38
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gpledbongzilla: 58.71.27.64     *               255.255.255.224 U     0      0        0 eth108:38
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gpledbongzilla: do you mean to have 224?08:39
bongzillamy subnet08:39
bongzillafor the public08:39
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omeganineenyc: Im running 6.10 - Should i worry about upgrading?08:39
Enselic_How can I specify what python bin that should be used?08:39
bongzilla224 is my subnet mask08:39
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bongzillafor the public ip add08:39
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omeganineIf I remember right, in 6.01 when I moved to SMP it killed my wireless drivers...among other things...if I dont have to upgrade my kernel i would rather not.08:40
VGambitHow do I change the default program for a filetype?08:40
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||x|x||how do i configure to see hidden files and folders in dapper?08:40
Enselic_VGambit: rightclick -> properties -> open with tab08:40
VGambitI'm getting sick of having to right click - open with other app - VLC for all of my music08:40
VGambitok, thanks08:40
bongzillawhat should i do next sir?08:41
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gpledbongzilla: i think i am missing something with your route table08:43
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omeganineGoing to reboot in to the new kernel. BRB08:43
VGambitwell, that was easy08:43
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VGambithappy thanksgiving guys08:43
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gpledbongzilla: see if you can ping 58.71.27.65 from the xp box08:43
bongzillafor a while sir08:43
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Ayabaraanyone using opera? do I need to setup a proxy server to make NTLM work?08:44
bongzillai cant08:44
bongzillai cant ping 58.71.27.6508:44
gpledbongzilla: ping 66.102.7.14708:44
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Immolatori can ping both :P08:45
bongzillain the workstation?08:45
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cmwebAfter all this time i finally got Flash Player to work.... now What about Shock Wave08:45
cmwebHow do i instll08:45
gpledbongzilla: from xp box08:45
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corevett1'couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r' any help here anyone??08:46
bongzillai can't ping 66.102.7.147 in the xp box08:46
gpledbongzilla: also try to ping 58.71.27.6408:46
cmwebbongzilla, how do i install your software08:46
Immolatorwhat is the standard telnet port, and the standard ssh port?08:46
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gpledcmweb: how did you get flash working?08:46
bongzillathe server?08:47
cmwebIm a 64 based system08:47
jernstcmweb: use Wine and firefox for Windows08:47
cmwebjernst, ?08:47
bongzillahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33634/ - my ifconfig08:47
gpledbongzilla: ping 58.71.27.64 from xp box08:47
corevett1'couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r' any help here anyone??08:47
zzyberHi, i have a winmodem called HSF 56k HSFi Modem in my hardware monitor, yesterday i tried to activate it to use it as Fax modem but failed so i started looking for a solution and found a driver online. The problem is the driver cost awsome 19USD and i hate to spen that money on a driver alone, and just the thought of someone earning money on a driver and not having it as GPL make me mad.08:48
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Agrajagcorevett1: linux-headers-`uname -r`08:48
Agrajagthe backticks are significant08:48
bongzillait can't ping08:48
cmwebzzyber, check the fourms08:48
zzyberDo anyone here have another solution for me to use, another driver maybe?08:48
corevett1aprajag thats what i typed...and they can't find it08:48
gpledbongzilla: 58.71.27.70 ?08:48
bongzillathat'08:48
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cmwebzzyber, im useing lucent/Agree modem here08:48
bongzillathat's my public ip08:48
bongzilla7008:48
Agrajagcorevett1: no, you didn't. Did you use ' instead of `?08:48
bongzilla58.71.27.7008:49
corevett1sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' responds with 'couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r'08:49
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cmwebBut my question still stands how do i install Shockwave08:49
jernstcmweb: there is no shockwave version for linux yet, so you have to use the windows one for the shockwave sites08:49
corevett1aprajag oh wait08:49
gpledbongzilla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33632/08:49
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DarkMageZzzyber, ask your friends if they have a spare real modem? or maybe get dsl08:49
Agrajagcorevett1: ' is not the same as `08:49
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cmwebthat bites08:49
bongzillathat08:49
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bongzillathat's what came out in the route08:49
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corevett1aparajag now it says couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-7-generic08:49
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cmwebOk another q, how do i install limewire?08:50
gpledbongzilla: can you ping 58.71.27.70 from xp box?08:50
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corevett1sudo apt-get install linux-headers-'uname -r' responds with 'couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.17-7-generic'08:50
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corevett1aparajag any ideas?08:50
zzyberDarkMageZ: so i shall not make more fuss about my winmodem then...........incredible that none have made a open source GPL driver for winmodems08:50
bongzillai dont know what's 58.71.27.64 doing in my route table08:50
Agrajagcorevett1: you're on edgy?08:50
corevett1aprajag yes08:50
Agrajagcorevett1: update your kernel, it's on 2.6.17-10 now08:50
cmwebzzyber i have a win modem08:50
bongzillai can ping 58.71.27.7008:51
Agrajagthe -7 package may be deprecated and removed08:51
bongzillain the xp box08:51
printkzzyber: some work i think.. but yes winmodems are crap :)08:51
||x|x||how do i access Wine installed programs?08:51
cmwebzzyber, mine works greate08:51
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||x|x||ie. ms office, mirc, etc08:51
corevett1aprajag, i can't even connect to the internet....thats the whole problem08:51
jernstcmweb: you can use the detailed instructions here (then you can use the linux version of firefox) : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave08:51
gpledbongzilla: do you know how you got 58.71.27.64 in the route table?08:51
cmwebzzyber, im picken up 6-8 Kbs08:51
corevett1aprajac my make command doesn't work08:51
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bongzillanop08:51
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bongzillai have no idea08:51
Agrajagcorevett1: then where were you going to get that package?08:52
DarkMageZzzyber, there are some drivers available for winmodems, but only particular models. it's better to get a real modem.08:52
cmwebJernst, in on linux im on Ubuntu08:52
bongzillai put the public ip using the gui interface08:52
corevett1aprajag the cd08:52
bongzillaim using gnome right now sir08:52
cmwebjernst, so their for i have to use the linux based stuff08:52
jernstcmweb: yes I know, just follow the instructions to get shockwave working08:52
corevett1aprajag i think i'm running a beta version of edgy08:52
Agrajagoh it's on the CD? is the CD in your sources.list?08:52
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jernstcmweb: Wine is a piece of software to run windows .exe on linux, using it you can havec shockwave working on Ubuntu08:53
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cmwebWell that explanes it. It will be a mad house using wine on my 64 based system08:53
checkerhello08:53
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bongzillawhat's our next step sir?08:54
checkercan ne one help me with 3d graphics for ati radeon xpress 110008:54
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checkerI tried everything I could find in the forums and on the net08:55
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cmwebis their a package for Limewire?08:55
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gpledbongzilla: think you need a route for 58.71.27.7008:56
bongzillahow can i do that?08:56
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abo_I have some process,  mount.ntfs-fuse I think, that's going up and down, in a periodical way, like once every 3-4 seconds, yesterday I had the same issue with apt-index-watch, and I installed a patch to fix it, any ideas? I was told that it could be beagled08:58
gpledbongzilla: system -> administration -> networking08:58
cmwebWine is acting up on my system i cant not ever run .exe files08:58
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gpledbongzilla: you will see your network cards there08:58
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bongzillaok08:59
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bongzillaalready here sir08:59
bongzillawhat's next08:59
gpledbongzilla:  pick the top ethernet card and select properties08:59
dark_lightanyone can say me if adobe flash 9 beta works on amd64?08:59
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bongzillathe eth1? the public?09:00
mneptonit does not09:00
gpleddark_light: you can not get flash working on firefox if it is 64bit09:00
maltanyone here use ddclient?09:00
dark_lightgpled, even flash 9?09:00
bongzillawhat's next sir09:00
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dark_lighti heard flash 9 would have 64bits versions09:01
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gpleddark_light: i think the best bet is to get 32bit firefox working on your amd 64 box09:01
Amaranthdark_light: Maybe by the end of 200709:01
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gpleddark_light: i hope so, if you figure it out, let me know09:01
cmwebCan any one tell me how to repartition my hdd with out using the live CD?09:01
dark_lighthow can i install 32bits libs?09:01
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Amaranthdark_light: that's what i've heard about flash9 on amd6409:01
dark_lighti think i will install gnash instead09:01
Amaranthcmweb: You can't repartition the HD you're running on.09:02
gpledbongzilla: is eth0 public?09:02
dark_lightAmaranth, no, he can09:02
Amaranthdark_light: gnash is barely flash 7 compatible and doesn't even work with youtube/google video09:02
bongzillaeth1 is public09:02
cmwebWell then im going to run out of space i only got 898.2 MB left!09:02
bongzillaeth0 is the 192.168.1.109:02
Amaranthdark_light: Not the partitions he is using09:02
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dark_lightcmweb, just run your prefered partition program, but changing currently mounted partitions isn't very wise09:03
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jernstcmweb: why don't you use the livecd ?09:03
gpledbongzilla: look at eth109:03
cmwebdark_light, what09:03
dark_lightAmaranth, well, he can delete a partition he is using, but the kernel will not notice the change09:03
bongzillahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33634/09:03
cmwebjernst, i dont feel like reformating09:03
jernstcmweb: you don't need to reformat, just use gparted09:03
dark_lightcmeme, try sudo aptitude install gparted09:04
Amaranthdark_light: Alright, pretend I had a 'Sanely' in front of my sentence. :P09:04
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jernstboot with the livecd, go to system/administration/gnome partition editor09:04
dark_lightAmallya, hmn :P09:04
jernstcmweb: and then you can resize without reformating09:04
Enselic_Where can I find python2.3 for Edgy?09:04
dark_lightabout gnash: yeah it isn't very compatible, but it is 64bit-compatible09:04
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cmwebjernst, darklight, OK its downloading09:04
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gpledbongzilla: when you click properties on eth1 what ip does it have?09:04
dark_lightbut: how can i download 32bits libs? :(09:05
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||x|x||how do i access Wine installed programs? i.e. ms office, mirc, etc09:05
bongzillaeth1 is the public09:05
cmwebWhats the difference between 32 and 64 bit, im using 64 and its hard as heck to get something instaleld09:05
dark_lightapt-cache search lib32 returns only *very very very basic* libs09:05
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bongzilla58.71.27.7009:05
gpled||x|x||: mirc?? xchat :)09:06
jernst||x|x||: wine installed programs are in ~/.wine/drive_c09:06
rLynxhello i need help, i am doing apt-get update on my ubuntu 10.6, but it still can't install amsn, wine, xchat etc..etc..09:06
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gpledcmweb: adobe does not like 64, so they have not released anything for it09:06
sn9rLynx: is this a fresh install?09:06
gpledcmweb: for linux09:06
dark_light||x|x||, xchat is a very good client, and it is native!09:06
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rLynxsn9 yes09:07
wenkoanyone know why for some reason I cant open Terminal session after openingand closeing the window a few times09:07
jqgAnyone can tell me how to start lamp from ubuntu server edition?It is said the ubuntu server integrated lamp09:07
wenkoit does thins to me in OO too09:07
jernst||x|x||: and you can use gaim as well09:07
cmwebgpled, then i hate adobe >:o09:07
cmweb:-D09:07
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gpledcmweb: that how i am starting to feel09:07
sn9rLynx: did you enable all the checkboxes in Software Properties?09:07
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cmwebgpled, your on 32?09:08
||x|x||gpled, there are some task (scripts) i cant do yet on xchat coz i'm a newbie in linux.. i have installed ms office as well... i i just dont know how to access them when i exited the installations... btw, i'm using xchat now09:08
gpledcmweb: they should just gpl it and let everyone use their reader/players09:08
rLynxsn9: i am not doing it thru menu, i am doing it thru terminal09:08
misc--gday... I was just wondering, I want to setup virtual mail with postfix/mysql. I know that there is a howto on it but is there a web interface available for managing the virtual domains/users?09:08
wedgeVi have gnome-settings-daemon crashing on login... the seem to be a ton of reports about this, but none of the suggested fixes works for me09:08
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||x|x||thanks jernst09:08
bongzillaplease help me in the route09:08
macogwcan anyone here help me figure out why grub isnt coming up when i try to dual boot this computer?09:08
cmwebgpled, they wont they want to make it as hard as they can..09:09
sn9rLynx: from the terminal, you'd have to edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list09:09
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rLynxsn9: i did that to09:09
gpledanyone here good with route tables?09:09
cmwebGez, its 2:09 A.M. here09:09
cmwebive been up09:09
macogw2? ive been up for 12 hours! :-P09:10
bongzillagurus09:10
macogwno wait its 3 here09:10
bongzillain need help09:10
cmwebbongzilla, in the western US?09:10
gpledbongzilla: i am almost sure this is a route table issue.  im just missing it09:10
gpledbongzilla: hoping someone who is better at it then me will look at it09:11
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sn9rLynx: and that didn't do it? i made a script that did all that for you, but for 6.06 -- you just proved that i really need to update it for 6.1009:11
bongzillai live in manila09:11
bongzilla=(09:11
cmwebOk i have installed gparted now what, how do i use it09:11
syntaxxhi i wonder when i start beryl my dialog toolbox are gone.. no minimized maximized and close button anyone know how to fix this?09:11
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rLynxsn9 how long it will take?09:11
ripperi seem to be having trouble printing from my windows xp machine to printer(s) attached to my ubuntu box, the windows box is showing that they are available but yet, nothing prints when i try to print.09:11
Viscid2I can't open any gnome applications using a terminal window. I get "cannot open display: (null)" for gedit or "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: " for anything else. Any ideas?09:12
gpledbongzilla: think you need to get that 58.71.27.64 out and 58.71.27.70 in09:12
spdfsyntaxx, Sounds like you're missing a Window Manger, install Emerald09:12
kyconquerswhat music programs do you sugest?09:12
bongzillathat's all then it will work?09:12
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syntaxxspdf: yeah i already have emerald.. when i run it manually im getting segfault09:12
sn9rLynx: at least until i can get a spare hard disk to install 6.10 onto09:12
||x|x||how do i view hidden files & folders?09:12
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gpledbongzilla: think so09:13
bongzillamy god09:13
cmwebGod*09:13
sn9rLynx: in the meantime, 6.06 isn't so bad09:13
bongzillai got deadlines09:13
bongzillaand09:13
rLynxsn9 why you are using 6.06? is it better then 6.10?09:13
bongzillai propost ubuntu09:13
gpledyou can manualy do it with route add09:13
bongzillafor the company09:13
nanomike!postfix09:13
ubotupostfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto09:13
DTGwhen I ftp local network I can ls and do uploads.  when I go across the internet I get this error: ftp: bind: Address already in use.  a google tells me it's something to do with the passive setting, but I don't know how to fix this09:14
kyconquersHey,What music programes do you sugest09:14
rLynxi have 5.10 and 6.10, to 6.06 i gotta download it, and it will take 6 days, i am on low connection09:14
gpledkyconquers: vlc all the way09:14
syntaxxbongzilla: ano problem kosa? ^^09:14
sn9rLynx: they had eight months to work on 6.06, but only four on 6.10 -- and they tried to introduce more changes in 6.1009:14
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bongzillapare09:14
bongzillasyntaxx09:14
gpledkyconquers: but get it from the instructions from the vlc site09:14
VigoFusio1Can I just update 6.10 to the server as it is installed? I selected Non-Server, but all the packages are there....09:14
||x|x||gpled, how do i configure to view hidden files & folders?09:14
bongzillamay problema ata ako sa route table ko09:14
bongzillabaka matulungan mo ako09:15
rLynxsn9 how about 5.10?09:15
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kyconquersso vlc?09:15
InezHi09:15
rippernevermind i fixed my problem09:15
ripper:)09:15
gpled||x|x||: ls -la will show all the .folders09:15
ripperseems most/all hp printers use the same drivers.09:15
cmwebHey if my disk runs out of space will it just find another partion?09:15
gpled!vlc09:15
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:15
sn9rLynx: 6.06 is hands down better than 5.10, but if you're on dial-up and have 6.10, stick with it09:15
InezIf I mount remote firectory via SSH using Places/Connect with server then where I can connect that drectory via MC?09:15
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rLynxsn9 okies09:15
||x|x||gpled,  ic.. what about if i use the GUI?09:16
||x|x||gpled, what should i open?09:16
gpledkyconquers: i even use vlc on win xp machines09:16
cmwebNight yall09:16
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towsonu2003does anyone know who "Rainer Heider" is?09:16
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towsonu2003I would appreciate a link about him ("Rainer Heider"), such as a launchpad user page -thanks :)09:17
kyconquersWhat music do you lisen to09:17
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kyconquersHelloooooooooooooooooooooooooo09:18
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gpled||x|x||: their is a selection in the gui that says show hidden09:18
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dawkirstHi. Is it possible/common for my nVidia graphics adaptor to overheat due to Ubuntu?09:19
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||x|x||gpled, thanks :)09:19
FirstStrikeuhh09:19
||x|x||<<-- blind eyes09:19
FirstStrikedawkirst: why would it overheat due to ubuntu? It would overheat if it was improperly cooled.09:19
||x|x||its in the View menu09:19
||x|x||:D09:19
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Kelmossomeone can help me about postgre database?09:20
dawkirstFirstStrike: maybe Ubuntu doesn't distribute with proper nVidia driver support, for example.09:20
FirstStrikeDid you install the nvidia drivers?09:21
FirstStrikeI've been running a geforce 6800 GS with no issues.09:21
FirstStrikeMine doesn't overheat09:21
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dawkirstWell I never said mine overheated, did I FirstStrike?09:23
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FirstStrikeThen what was the purpose of the question?09:24
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=== Amallya dark_light :P
morten_how can i patch into the local display (:0) of a remote computer?09:24
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VigoFusionWhat kind of card? And is the Case well ventilated?09:24
dawkirstThat is my purpose, and not the purpose of this channel to question the purpose behind the purpose.09:24
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Arcainusmorning09:25
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VigoFusionWhat is the suggested AV? or what is the official AV ?09:27
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morten_how can i patch into the local display (:0) of a remote computer?09:29
VigoFusionGood Morning Arcainus09:29
dark_lightAmallya, er :P09:30
VigoFusionUse the View Remote doohicky09:31
morten_basically, i want to have the same display show up on the monitor as well as my laptop, and control it from the latter09:31
morten_how can i do this?09:31
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n3rdismlol i didnt know ubuntu came packaged with "doohikies" is that fiesty yer running? :P09:32
VigoFusionYou make a connection, permission is nice, in that case I dont think it needed, basically just a p2p doohicky, let me find the app09:33
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n3rdismTerminal Server Client?09:33
n3rdismfor remote desktop use?09:33
VigoFusionYes09:33
n3rdismApplications > Internet09:34
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mathersalano09:34
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VigoFusionThat doohicky allows it09:34
morten_n3rdism: what do i need to run on the remote computer?09:34
n3rdismfor some reason w/e i read something someone says. in my mind, its followed by 2 or 3 statements of jive talk back straight outa the 70's09:35
morten_remote computer doesn't have any gnome apps installed09:35
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n3rdismmorten: ive never actually used that to rdesktop09:35
morten_me neither :(09:36
n3rdismwhat type of computer are you connectng to?09:36
VigoFusionIs basic Admin stuff, allow incomeing from (select what you want here)09:36
n3rdismis it windows?09:36
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bilss_hi09:36
morten_n3rdism: no. both are linux.09:36
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n3rdismok nvm, was gonna suggest logmein09:36
eexp16morten_: use vnc09:36
guest459anyone know where I can get some info on Mepis?09:37
VigoFusionYou have to give permissions on both PCs, well its at least the right thing to do.09:37
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morten_vnc will let me control :0?09:37
eexp16morten_: x11vnc can09:37
bilss_whats the command line to see what my free disk space is is it dd somwthing?09:37
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eexp16morten_: x11vnc attaches to the running x session09:37
morten_fantastic09:37
morten_that's exactly what i need09:37
VigoFusion:)09:37
eexp16morten_: run x11vnc on the computer you want to remote control and any vnc viewer on the client side09:37
n3rdismbilss: df09:38
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StanislavAnyone have any idea why my firefox wont start?09:38
StanislavIt says starting Firefox and disappears =\09:38
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n3rdismerrors?09:38
n3rdismtry running it via terminal09:38
n3rdismand see if it outputs errors09:39
Stanislavby typing firefox?09:39
n3rdismroger that09:39
Stanislavpure virtual method called09:39
Stanislavterminate called without an active exception09:39
StanislavAborted (core dumped)09:39
Stanislavthats the output09:39
bilss_n3rdism: thanks09:40
n3rdismnp09:40
bilss_df what?09:40
n3rdismi would suggest reinstalling the package09:40
Stanislavi tried that09:40
Stanislavstill wont start =\09:40
enycomeganine: 6.10 IS latest release... no upgrades available (except experimental/testing)09:40
n3rdismtry removing it completely first?09:40
VigoFusionDid you purge and install or overlay?09:40
n3rdismbilss: just type df in a terminal09:40
Stanislavjust did reinstalled via the package manager09:41
morten_what vnc client do you guys recommend?09:41
n3rdismtry completely removing it first, then installing it again09:41
n3rdismstanislav ^09:41
eexp16morten_: tightvnc09:41
VigoFusionIt has allways been my callto Remove/Purge, then fresh install.09:41
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morten_eexp16: how tight is it?09:42
n3rdismlol09:42
Arcainusi have an apt-get install question about clamav ... should i ask here or #clamav ? :\09:42
n3rdismlike a 12 year old09:42
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n3rdism!!! !i did not say that09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i did not say that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
eexp16morten_: tightvnc can optionally use jpeg compression for low network bandwidth09:42
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eexp16n3rdism: muhahaha09:42
Stanislavwhats ubuntu desktop system?09:42
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joshua__can anyone help me with a simple gnome question?09:42
VigoFusionyall are just TOO funny09:43
n3rdismstanislav: its pretty useless actually, dont worry about getting rid of that09:43
Stanislavkk09:43
bilss_n3rdism: here it is   http://pastebin.ca/25649709:43
joshua__i deleted my desktop switcher from my bottom panel...and i can no longer switch between apps there. What do I have to add to the panel to get it back to normal?09:43
n3rdismnice09:43
nanomikeHow do I use postfix with SMTP-AUTH and TLS once I've installed it? Followed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html09:43
n3rdismbilss: so whats youre question?09:43
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bilss_does it mean i am useing 16r more of my hard drive% o09:44
umops!xserver09:44
n3rdismjoshua: right click, add to pannel.09:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:44
bilss_16%09:44
VigoFusionDesktop is for loosers like me that dont know squat about Linux, I think its package is for Low End Hardware and or just users that dont want or need Server Side09:44
n3rdismbills: affirmative09:44
n3rdismvigo: no more ecstacy09:45
joshua__n3rdism: yeah. But what do i have to add to get it back to normal?09:45
n3rdism"Workspace switcher"09:45
eexp16VigoFusion: why not learning to use the command line? it's really worth it, even if you are a desktop user.09:45
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VigoFusionI am just lazy, too many years at a terminal got me tired.09:46
n3rdismits extremely handy, especially when you mess something up. or an unstable update is released. and you have to safe mode in and remove it09:46
bilss_so if i have a HD of 40 gigs 16% is being used so can use say 20 gigs for VM ware or Xen for example09:46
Stanislavok firefox works now >_>09:46
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n3rdismbilss: sure, sounds good. are you using a gui at all?09:46
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joshua__n3rdism: thanks alot man. That worked. I'm a dumb noob09:47
n3rdism"im a dumb noob" lmfao09:47
bilss_just a mimimal flushbox at the moment09:47
bilss_fluxbox?09:47
n3rdismfluxbox*09:47
eexp16bilss_: fluxbox09:47
joshua__well, i installed beryl in 5 minutes without a problem. but my clumbsy ass somehow erases my entire bottom panel.09:47
bilss_ok thanks yep thats the one09:48
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n3rdismgnome ftw09:48
bilss_on dapper with a mail server09:48
n3rdismo rly?09:48
n3rdismwhat mail server are you running?09:49
Arcainusim really starting to get annoyed with ubuntu here!!09:49
n3rdismO.O09:49
Arcainusall i want is to get clamav up-to-date09:49
n3rdismdo you need help, or are you just on speed09:49
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bilss_got vmware with a choice of bridge NAT or host-only connection waiting for XEN to let me get a win32 package as guest some day soon09:49
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n3rdismarcainus to what version?09:50
Stanislavanyone know what theme this is ?09:50
Stanislavhttp://techbycolin.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/wow-ubuntu.jpg09:50
n3rdismclear looks09:50
Arcainusn3rdism, the latest of course 0.88.609:50
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bilss_I think Xen is the way forward  in Visulization09:50
Arcainuswhen i do a apt-get, it only finds 0.88.209:50
n3rdismcompile a newer version from source09:51
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bilss_i just wish ubuntu was more rock soild like Debian sarge09:51
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tenzinhi09:51
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tenzinIs it possible to have diffrend wallpapers on diffrend desktops???09:51
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n3rdismthats a new one09:52
n3rdismnot sure man09:52
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gdbyou can in kde!!!!!!09:52
tenzinwould be cool09:52
gdbyou can't in gnome!!!!!!!09:52
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tenzinonly in kde?09:52
n3rdismBe quiet beggar!09:52
tenzinI use xfce09:52
Arcainusn3rdism , but then i have to compile it each time a new one comes out :(09:52
gdbyou can't in xfce!!!!!!!09:52
tenzinohh....I see :/09:52
eexp16gdb: you !-key is broken :)09:53
ax7yo09:53
n3rdismarcainus, maybe a newer version is in unstable repos?09:53
bilss_need some help need to get firefox 2.0 on dapper drake please09:53
gdbeexp16: so is tenzin's ? key09:53
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Arcainusn3rdism , lemme see09:53
VigoFusionTried that nifty Synaptic Installer?09:53
eexp16gdb: right09:53
gdbeexp16: ;-)09:53
n3rdismarcainus: http://packages.ubuntu.com/09:53
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n3rdismbills: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283965&highlight=firefox+2+dapper09:54
n3rdismbilss*09:54
n3rdismgoogle is your friend09:54
eexp16gdb: running tr -s '!?' over an average irc log might shorten it by 10% ;)09:54
Arcainusheh, they only have 0.88.409:54
bilss_i have looked in forum cannot do it iwith apt-get? where do i find the .deb for dapper drake for firefox 2.009:55
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n3rdismthere isn't a deb for ff2 yet09:55
Arcainusthat's nice09:55
bilss_ok so what to do09:55
morten_what's the difference between xvncviewer and xvnc4viewer?09:55
ax7unsure09:55
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n3rdismbilss: read the howto i linked you to09:55
eexp16morten_: the "4"? :)09:56
morten_that would be one difference.09:56
eexp16morten_: no, xvnc4viewer can do vnc protocol version 4 i guess09:56
eexp16morten_: i think for x11vnc on the server side, its not relevant09:56
bilss_what link09:56
n3rdismbilss_: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283965&highlight=firefox+2+dapper09:56
Acke_ubuHey, i have a ubuuntu based "server" connected to my router.. my router doesnt show that it has given my ubuntumachine an ip number. but it doesnt show that other devices is connected either. even if they are connected. my ubuntu machine doesnt have a screen attached. so i cant check if it works. how do i do a network ip scan??09:57
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n3rdismacke_ubu: system > admin > network tools09:58
Acke_ubun3rdism: yeah right now i remeber, thanks09:58
Acke_ubunew i seen it somewhere before09:58
n3rdismacke_ubu: 192.168.1.*?09:58
Acke_ubuknew*09:58
n3rdismyah09:58
Acke_ubuyeah or 192.168.0.x09:58
n3rdismsweet, im a networking newb tho09:58
Acke_ubulol09:59
bongzillawhat if i can't ping the dns09:59
eexp16Acke_ubu: do you know the subnet?09:59
bilss_thanks for firefox link i followed the   http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/firefox  confusing as hell i will look  yours thanks but is it the latest oct 2005?09:59
bongzillabut the public ip address works and can ping09:59
Acke_ubuyeah 255.255.255.0 i think09:59
bongzillawhat should i do?09:59
Acke_ubui can check with router09:59
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eexp16Acke_ubu: no, not the netmask. the subnet address. like 192.168.1.0 or 192.168.20.010:00
VigoFusion255 is default Subnet mask10:00
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n3rdismbilss_: there you go :)10:00
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Acke_ubuits 0.x10:00
eexp16Acke_ubu: so 192.168.0.x ?10:00
bilss_go where , what does there you go mean?10:01
n3rdismlol10:01
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n3rdismgood job in other words10:01
Acke_ubueexp16: yes10:01
VigoFusionMultiple Units can use 255.255.255.0 XXXXXXXXXXXX.1,,,,or you can do that with the DHCP doohickey10:01
bilss_lol and the seas parted and unbuntu crossed10:01
eexp16Acke_ubu: do you have nmap installed?10:01
n3rdismXD10:01
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bilss_and if i drink another cup of coffee will it make me feel better10:02
Acke_ubu'i think so eexp16 how to use it?10:02
n3rdismomg i want some coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, im crashing so hard10:02
eexp16Acke_ubu: nmap -p 80 192.168.0.0/2410:03
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n3rdismnice eexp10:03
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eexp16Acke_ubu: this will try to connect to port 80 on each address in the 192.168.0.x/255.255.255.0 subnet10:03
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n3rdismeexp16: can you arg different ports?10:04
eexp16n3rdism: yeah, the -p option also accepts port ranges10:04
n3rdismdope10:04
bilss_ok its been updated sorry my fault10:04
mzli!paste10:04
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:04
n3rdismim sucha networking newb10:04
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eexp16n3rdism: if you leave out the -p option, it will try "well known" ports (about 1500)10:05
DeveLinuxgood morning guys10:05
n3rdismg'morning10:05
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Acke_ubueexp16: would ubuntu accept scans on port 80 then?10:05
n3rdismeexp16: now how to setup bittorrent with ubuntu10:05
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eexp16Acke_ubu: it will say the port is closed, but at least thats an answer10:06
Acke_ubu yes10:06
eexp16Acke_ubu: so you can see which ip addresses exist10:06
Acke_uburight10:06
eexp16n3rdism: i don't use peer2peer software. ask someone else.10:07
VigoFusionSynaptic Package manager has that ready for download.10:07
n3rdismhaha its all good10:07
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n3rdismvigofusion: i just have trouble getting the ports to go to the right places10:08
cwilluhow do I make vi usable again under a console in edgy?10:08
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eexp16cwillu: press ESC and then :q!10:08
VigoFusionI don't do p2p either, unless its SSL and I am physically talking with the other operater.10:08
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cwillu**smack eexp16**10:08
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cwillueexp16:  I have great disdain for the editor that goes 'grumble grumble' when it doesn't do what nearly every other editor does when I hit ctrl+s10:09
wenkoanyone know the command to apt-get the make compiler10:10
cwilludoesn't leave many options in a stock system :)10:10
eexp16cwillu: this is not the editors fault10:10
Acke_ubudamn maybe my mac ubuntu machine doesnt get ip from router... :(10:10
eexp16cwillu: the console itself reacts to ctrl-s10:10
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eexp16cwillu: ctrl-s blocks all output, ctrl-q will resume10:10
cwillubelieve me when I say I don't care, I just want vi to work how it did under dapper10:10
n3rdismwenko: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:10
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wenkothanks10:11
Acke_ububut anyways. it doesnt recognize my work laptop pc, but only the router, and the pc based ubuntu lappy im running10:11
n3rdismnp10:11
morten_cwillu: they changed vi?10:11
morten_that's sacrilege!10:11
cwillumy best guess is that they changed the default terminal emulation or something10:11
morten_vi was perfected before most of us were born!10:11
cwilluarrow keys don't work under insert mode any more10:11
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eexp16morten_: no. cwillu just typed ctrl-s and the console blocks. perfectly normal, has nothing to do with vi.10:11
morten_that's strange. works fine for me.10:11
cwillueexp16: that's not what I'm talking about10:12
n3rdismi like scite :P10:12
BeBrawi just installed D-Link DWL-G122 wlan adapter on my new system. i used ndiswrapper and modprobe to set its driver. the problem is that the device does not appear in ubuntu's Networking settings and hence the connection does not work10:12
eexp16BeBraw: which h/w revision of the g122 is that?10:12
Acke_ubu -p 8080 found one more ip.. :)10:12
morten_honestly, though, while i know it's rude to say so, i kinda prefer vim.10:12
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eexp16Acke_ubu: hehe10:12
morten_for the syntax highlighting10:12
cwilluahhhhhhhhh, that's what they did10:13
BeBraweexp16: A110:13
n3rdismscite is basically vim but gui10:13
wenkon3rdism: is there anyway to install it without teh CD?10:13
eexp16BeBraw: there are different revisions with different chipsets10:13
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n3rdismwenko: install what again? sry, memory of a small kitten10:13
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cwilluvi isn't the same thing as vim anymore10:14
wenkomake10:14
morten_cwillu: if you were hardcore, you'd be using xterm anyways. and that hasn't changed as far as i know.10:14
eexp16BeBraw: oh, A1 has prism usb chipset i think. mine is B1, it has rt2570 (ralink) chipset.10:14
morten_actually, screw that. you'd be using tty1.10:14
wenkouseing the sudo apt-get install build-essential command10:14
cwillumorten_: I'm running in single user mode10:14
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n3rdismwenko: ofcourse, if you have an internet connection10:14
cwilluis that hardcore enough?10:14
eexp16BeBraw: sorry, i only have experience with the B1 one10:14
morten_it is. i'm proud of you, cwillu10:14
BeBraweexp16: i used the netprism driver provided on the install cd. ndiswrapper -l shows the device just fine10:14
cwillulol10:14
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n3rdismwenko: you have to enable some universal repos tho10:14
wenkon3rdism: i think i have an internet connection on this computer... :P10:14
eexp16BeBraw: i dont use ndiswrapper at all, so i cant help you10:14
wenkouniversal repos?10:14
BeBraweexp16: no problem :)10:15
sc4ttrbrain!beryl10:15
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl10:15
n3rdismwenko: in your sources.list10:15
h2cHi, is anyone using beryl with an ATI card here ?. I had a little problem. #beryl currently doesn't seem to have anyone using ATI.10:15
wenkolol...lost me...im a n00b10:15
cwillumorten_:  okay, so vi and vim are ultimately symlinked to the same place.  why do they behave differently?10:15
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n3rdismwenko: alternatively you can go System > Admin > Software Resources10:15
Acke_ubui use ati10:15
morten_cwillu: are you shitting me?10:15
h2cAye, thanks ubotu10:15
cwilluI am not10:15
n3rdismwenko; Softare Sources*10:15
morten_ubuntu doesn't have vi installed, but links to vim?10:15
Acke_ubudisable composite thats the only thing that works10:16
morten_that honestly offends me.10:16
cwilluand that changed recently,10:16
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morten_i'm guessing it's some command line option, cwillu10:16
eexp16BeBraw: i think you don't need ndiswrapper for that card, i should run with the wlan-ng drivers. however, i am not sure.10:16
morten_but i haven't checked10:16
cwilluin a symlink?10:16
cwilluyou can do that?10:16
n3rdismguys, stop you're making me feel cool10:16
nanomikeWhere do I paste logs?10:16
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Acke_ubuim so screwed. i dont have a monitor for my mac. so i cant connect to it.. :(10:16
VigoFusionI have that stoopid 200 series, onboard, the ATI Linux didnt correct it, yet..........10:16
wenkon3rdism: ok I am in the UI, now what :P10:16
Tomcat_!paste | nanomike10:16
ubotunanomike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)10:16
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nanomikeTomcat_, Thanks10:17
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Tomcat_:-)10:17
morten_cwillu: i think so. but it doesn't seem like it's being done here.10:17
wenkon3rdism: think i got it10:17
n3rdism:)10:17
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morten_couldn't you make a link an alias, though? like, 'ln /usr/bin/vim -mode vi /usr/bin/vi', or something like that?10:17
Spee_DerAcke_ubu: Can't you just use xvnc and connect to it that way ?10:18
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BeBraweexp16: okay. i will try those10:18
morten_cwillu: even so, i think it's pretty lame that they've taken out vi.10:18
cwillumorten_: I think vim's detecting the name its called by10:19
kamuii need some help again10:19
cwilluI just made my own symlink called 'vi' elsewhere, and it launched the vim-in-weird-mode10:19
eexp16BeBraw: if you try it, make sure that ndiswrapper module is not loaded anymore, possibly blocking the card10:19
kamuiis there a program that will help me "step" through a c/c++ program10:19
n3rdismkamui: like ./configure ?10:19
kamuithe thing is the binary is crosscompiled, so I can't actually just debug it10:19
kamuino, more like run step by step through the potential execution, so I can see the flow of the program in its source10:20
cwilluahaaa10:20
n3rdismwtf, this isnt middle earth10:20
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kamuisimilar to stepping through a program in basic10:20
cwillu/etc/vim/vim.tiny10:20
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asfalthi, i used apt-get install xmms and now i can play mp3's ok. however when i try to open an mp3 from a samba share on my network it does not play unless I copy it over first. can I change this?10:20
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BeBraweexp16: how do i unload it?10:21
in4mer??10:21
patrick_kinghow would i download throught a proxy which makes  me to login10:21
eexp16BeBraw: sudo rmmod ndiswrapper10:21
kamuiis this impossible?10:21
sn9kamui: gdb can work over a two-machine connection10:22
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cwillumorton_:  ahhhh, much better.  now I can finish putting in my hacks to bash.bashrc to make it more windows cmd like10:22
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sn9kamui: or you can use a virtual machine10:22
asfaltdoes this mean i need the grsteamer ? if i can play mp3 local in xmms but not from a samba share/network ?10:23
n3rdismkamui: would an IDE help?10:23
BeBraweexp16: it works with wlan-ng! thanks a lot! :)10:23
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eexp16BeBraw: cool10:23
iron_angelasfalt: no, not necessarily. gstreamer is an engine for playing media.10:23
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kamuin3rdism: I don't know of any ide 's that would do that per say10:23
kamuiI have codeblocks right now10:24
iron_angelasfalt: what happens when you try to play from a samba share?10:24
kamuiI was hoping there was a program that would let me step through the application10:24
sn9kamui: qemu10:24
n3rdismkamui: well you could run specific sections of your code in an ide rigght?10:24
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kamuin3rdism: no10:24
kamuithis is a psp port of quake Im working on10:24
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n3rdismwoah, sweet10:25
kamuiI need to see how the program steps through the original code10:25
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asfaltiron_angel nothing, no error msg, ie say i will browse to a song, right click it, open with xmms, the title appears in xmms, but nothing plays back and pressing play has no effect10:25
kamuiyea, I've fixed a ton of stuff and it compiles and runs quite well10:25
n3rdismsry, im out of ideas10:25
kamuiworking on fixing the ingame browser10:25
n3rdismhome brew?10:25
kamuithats the problem is that I can't tell when the Cvars are initialized10:25
kamuiyes10:25
n3rdismcool, good luck10:25
kamuithanks10:25
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kamuiI think I might call it a night10:26
sn9kamui: if your cross-devel target is a psp, you won't find anything better than qemu10:26
kamuibeen at this for hours10:26
bilss_hi again10:26
kamuisn9: qemu doesn't emulate the psp10:26
n3rdismits 4:30 here x.x10:26
kamui3:30 here :)10:26
n3rdismhello bilss10:26
kamuicst10:26
n3rdismi dont even know what  im doing at this point lol10:26
Mowhawkoanyone know about 6.10 not displaying SSIDs for wireless? worked fine in 6.0610:26
bilss_just to say thanks ton3rdism for firefox url10:26
kamuisn9: so why do you keep mentioning qemu?10:26
sn9kamui: the cpu by itself should be enough10:26
bilss_but10:26
n3rdismlmao10:27
iron_angelasfalt: Hmmm. what if you right-click the title in the xmms playlist and look at the properties?10:27
kamuisn9: the psp has 2 cpus, one arm7 one arm910:27
kamuisn9how do I run a kxploited elf binary in qemu10:27
bilss_how to give alex thats me salex is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.udoers rights as in10:27
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asfaltiron_angel under File Info i can see the smb:// path and the id3 tag details10:28
Mowhawkoanyone know about 6.10 not displaying SSIDs for wireless? worked fine in 6.06...10:28
n3rdismbilss: what exactly are you trying to do10:28
sn9kamui: ah, well... i think qemu might only do arm4 or arm5. whatever10:28
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bilss_following the  hwoto you sent me10:28
bilss_here look10:28
n3rdismwhat part are you on?10:28
iron_angelasfalt: ah, that's it. xmms doesn't directly know how to handle smb:// URLs. You'd have to mount the filesystem so that it appears to be local.10:28
asfaltiron_angel i must add, the share is not mounted where i am attemping to play it from, i simply browsed to it perhaps that is the problem10:28
kamuisn9: even if qemu did emulate the 7 and/or 9 cpu, how would I run the xmb on it?  thanks for your input though10:28
cgeDoes anyone here know how to mount a partition image (ie, made with dd if= of=) in Windows XP, with the added caveat that the image is 60GB and is on an ext2 partition mounted with the IFS driver?10:29
iron_angelasfalt: I don't recall precisely how to mount it, it's been forever since I've used smaba much...10:29
n3rdismkamui: leet gandalf hax10:29
bilss_http://pastebin.ca/25650910:29
asfaltaha thanks iron_angel , this is probably also the same issue with the divx movies then mplayer probably likewise doesn't like smb paths10:29
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iron_angelcge: mount -t fstype -o loop file mountpoint10:29
asfaltiron_angel thats cool i can set the shares up, no problems there10:29
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cgeiron_angel: Err, I need to do this in Windows.10:30
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iron_angelcge: oh, nuts.... Hmm. Not sure at all, sorry :-(10:30
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n3rdismbilss: you can normally sudo?10:30
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cgeiron_angel: Mounting it in Linux would be too easy. I'd have to put it on an ntfs partition or something to make it challenging.10:31
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asfaltnow, on the note of mplayer, so far i tested one xvid file, it plays back fine, however on startup mplayer throws up an error "Requested audio codec family [mp3]  (afm=mp3lib) not available. Enable it at compilation. I used apt-get install mplayer to install mplayer itself10:31
willvdlis i810 driver correct for i945 chipset?10:31
bilss_n3rdism : not as alex no i do not want to go su then root do I ?10:31
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n3rdismcge: if you're just using it as RO ntfs should work fine10:31
Tomtheman70Just wondering, can I burn an .iso to a CD while running in Live-CD mode?10:31
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iron_angelcge: <grin>10:31
Tomcat_Tomtheman70: Not if it's the same CD drive.10:31
n3rdismbilss: not sure :/10:32
Tomtheman70Tomcat_ I have two.10:32
iron_angelTomtheman70: If you have another one, though, yeah.10:32
bilss_not sure ok how to make alex a sudoers user10:32
n3rdismthat we can do10:32
Tomtheman70iron_angel, so I can store the ISO to my hard drive?10:32
bilss_ok lets do it please10:32
Tomtheman70iron_angel, even if I'm in a Live-CD boot?10:32
iron_angelTomtheman70: yeah, I'd think so, as long as you have somewhere to store it to.10:33
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n3rdismbilss: found this via google http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9890.html10:33
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Tomtheman70iron_angel What if I've pulled the HD out of my computer and smashed it into a billion pieces out of rage of having M$ ruin my completely legal copy of their OS?10:34
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iron_angelTomtheman70: eep. So, nowhere to store it, eh? Get a 1GB+ thumbdrive, maybe?10:34
n3rdismtometheman70: what if you took anger managment courses?10:34
bilss_so in my case its   alex ALL=(ALL) ALL10:35
n3rdismyep10:35
Tomtheman70n3rdism, iron_angel, its a joke. I have a 20GB HD to store it on, but windows I think its using that partition... can I still store it there?10:35
n3rdismtry that10:35
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bilss_umm ok10:35
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cgeTomtheman70: Yes, though if it is NTFS it is slightly harder.10:35
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iron_angelTomtheman70: if it's FAT, then yes, definitely. NTFS is trickier10:36
bilss_i expect the sudoers fille wilbe ownedby root10:36
Tomtheman70Well, I've got all night :P10:36
n3rdismbilss: probably :)10:36
cgebilss_: Edit sudoers with visudo, otherwise you will have problems.10:36
aileanwhen is the first release of edgy out?10:36
n3rdismtomtheman70: mounting ntfs as RO is extremely easy10:36
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cgen3rdism: That won't help him at all.10:37
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Tomtheman70n3rdism, easy on the non-english. I'm still relatively new at linux10:37
bilss_cge: ok how to that please from comand line as root please10:37
aileanwhen is the first release of feisty out, i mean? )10:37
cgebilss_: Just type visudo10:37
n3rdismsorry tom10:37
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bilss_as root10:37
Tomtheman70:P10:37
cgeTomtheman70: What version of Windows is it?10:37
Tomtheman70cge, XP, blasted thing..10:38
bilss_cge: as root10:38
cgeTomtheman70: Then it is probably an NTFS partition.10:38
cgebilss_: yes10:38
axisys!xine > axisys10:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:38
bilss_cge: ok thanks10:38
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hamdin1hello, I have an WinXp and Ubuntu 6.06.1 installed Pc and I want to install another WinXP?10:38
hamdin1what your advise?10:38
Mowhawkoanyone know about 6.10 not displaying SSIDs for wireless? worked fine in 6.06...10:38
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cgeTomtheman70: So you have to mount the NTFS partition read/write, which is tricky on the LiveCD.10:39
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n3rdismcge: oh hes on livecd, sry i wasn't aware of that. or that he needed write :x.10:39
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Tomtheman70cge, well, currently I'm downloading the "Don't ask, don't tell" version of XP off of my friend to put back on here and then load ubuntu again... so how would I get that working?10:40
bilss_cge: at the momen# User privilege specification10:40
bilss_root    ALL=(ALL) ALL10:40
bilss_# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges10:40
bilss_%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL10:40
bilss_t it looks like this10:40
Tomtheman70cge, its downloading to the desktop of the live-CD so... everything must be going alright as of now..10:40
bilss_so just add alex to that10:40
n3rdismbilss: looks good, you should pastebin tho10:40
VigoFusionTheres a TRS-80 Emu in the file libs, I have a working, with manual and geek nylon original carrying case TRS-80. :-P10:40
bilss_sorry i should10:40
cgeTomtheman70: How much RAM do you have?10:40
Tomtheman70cge, how can I double check?10:41
HerrieHi all, I've installed kde-core alongside Gnome and now is Konquror default browser in XChat (under Gnome) How do I change that back to Firefox (Edgy)10:41
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cgeTomtheman70: Eeek - I don't remember an easy way to do so.10:41
Tomtheman70cge, well I know how to use the terminal10:41
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DaylighterVigoFusion, a friend of mine has one of those, he brings it with him to conferences and even edits webpages on it. Then transfers them to his PDA and uploads them10:42
aileanwhen is the first release of feisty out?10:42
nikitaHerrie: sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox10:42
n3rdismbilss: np, this is just an idea. what if you just added alex to the admin group?10:42
cgeTomtheman70: Actually, do 'cat /proc/meminfo', and then it will be listed as MemTotal10:42
Herriethx Nikita10:42
bilss_where do i place alex under members or users10:42
DarkMageZHerrie, there's also a gui tool called galternatives10:42
Tomtheman70cge, 51210:42
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Tomtheman70cge, or 515, whichever floats your boat.10:42
VigoFusionDaylighter: Thing still works perfect, has that little view panel, even has the Cassette Tape deck for MONGO storage.10:43
cgeTomtheman70: The CD image will fail to download about 3/4 of the way through, most likely.10:43
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n3rdismbilss: members10:43
hamdin1I have an WinXp and Ubuntu 6.06.1 installed Pc and I want to install another WinXP10:43
Tomtheman70cge, or in about 15 seconds at the rate that my free memory is going down.10:43
sn9hamdin1: you want two xp's on the same machine?10:43
bilss_with or without the % at the begining of the line?10:43
cgeTomtheman70: You want to stop the download before that happens, or your system will become rather unresponsive.10:43
n3rdismwith10:44
bilss_ok10:44
wijnandsn9: that's adding insult to injury isn't it? ;)10:44
Tomtheman70cge, its already getting to that point. :P hold on please.10:44
willvdlHerrie, in XChat, Settings -> Advanced -> URL Handlers10:44
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Tomtheman70cge, can you kinda... quickly tell me how to mount the NTFS system?10:44
hamdin1this XP is very slow and much program istalled10:44
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cgeTomtheman70: Are you running Dapper or Edgy?10:44
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guiest!repos10:45
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource10:45
wijnandhamdin1: so you cough up the dough for a second license?10:45
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Tomtheman70cge, dapper10:45
assobachantjour ter tous10:45
n3rdismwii wii twilight princess10:45
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bilss_cge: thanks10:46
cgeTomtheman70: Ok, there are instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710. Delete the partial download before you start though, or your RAM will probably fill up again.10:46
ragamuffinI am installing ubuntu on D (with xp on C. where should i select for Mount point?10:46
bilss_n3rdism: thanks10:46
guiestWill my ubuntu system ever try to contact auckland.ubuntu.com and other places via the http port?10:46
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n3rdismnp is it working?10:46
sn9cge: that won't free up ram. he needs to reboot10:46
cgesn9: That will free up the RAM, I believe.10:47
sn9cge: i've tried it myself before. it doesn't10:47
hamdin1 have 1 license10:47
Tomtheman70cge, sn9, it freed up about 10 MB10:47
cgesn9: Strange, it worked for me about an hour ago.10:47
guiestyes, no?10:47
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VigoFusionCan I safely and easily increase the SWAP in Edgy?10:47
cgeTomtheman70: Perhaps the management has improved in Edgy.10:47
ragamuffinurgent help please. Where should I select for mout point for dual boot with WinXP?10:48
sn9VigoFusion: if you have the disk space10:48
cgeTomtheman70: You will probably have to reboot then, and then follow those instructions.10:48
n3rdismvigofusion: i would think it have to be unmounted first?10:48
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sn9ragamuffin: initially, select "do not mount"10:48
VigoFusionsn9: Got 40g left to play with10:48
threeseashow do you flush the printer buffer?10:48
ragamuffinsn9 thanks10:48
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sn9VigoFusion: no prob, then10:49
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Tomtheman70Anyone know of a free site to upload files up to 700 MB?10:49
ArcainusWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!10:49
Arcainusclamav-base10:49
ArcainusInstall these packages without verification [y/N] ? n10:49
Arcainushow can i skip that10:49
bongzillahey10:49
cgeTomtheman70: Unfortunately, my battery is about to die, so I won't be able to help you.10:49
VigoFusionsn9: That was what I thought also, about the mounting, but on some systems you just do it ghetto style.10:49
Arcainuscause if i say no10:50
Arcainusthen it doesnt install10:50
bongzillahow to save iptables in ubuntu10:50
wenkon3rdism: hey remeber me? I am the dude trying to use make...wellllllll I am having problems again10:50
bongzillahow to save iptables in ubuntu10:50
ragamuffinsn9:  Mounts options are defaults, arent they?10:50
n3rdismwenko: whats wrong?10:50
wenkon3rdism: can I pm you?10:50
n3rdismsure10:50
Lynourebongzilla: ? helps to tell people it's a question10:50
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oldsthreeseas: try this command: lprm - [RET] 10:50
bongzillawhat's lprm?10:50
Lynourebongzilla: There are many ways, some put them as pre-up rules, some make them an init script10:50
oldsline printer remove10:51
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Tomtheman70cge, I'm just going to blow away my windows partition and just install xubuntu.10:51
oldsthat will remove all active line printer jobs10:51
bongzillahow about iptables10:51
Tomtheman70Argh10:51
Tomtheman70he left.10:51
Lynourebongzilla: yes, iptables.10:51
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bongzillai set a rule then i reboot it10:51
bongzillathen10:51
bongzillamy set lost10:52
bongzillai need to save them10:52
bongzillai need help sir10:52
Lynourebongzilla: yes, did you read what I said to you some lines back?10:52
bongzillain the init script?10:52
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threeseasdidn't work.... I can shut off my printer and do lpr and have removed jobs from the printer but it still is wanting to print out the last thing.... which apparently has other problems .... don't need to be wasting reams of paper on this10:53
threeseasI can reboot but I shou;ldn't have to10:53
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oldsthreeseas: that sounds like a printer issue10:53
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Lynourebongzilla: that's one way.10:54
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oldsbut that is very odd10:54
Tomtheman70Does anyone know of a website where I can upload something that is larger than 700MB?10:54
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threeseasyeah, cool how an pold cannon 4000 can maintain memory after it's shut off10:54
bongzillai dont know how to do that10:54
bongzillacan you help me sir?10:54
oldsbongzilla: it should be something like /etc/init.d/iptables save10:54
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oldsthreeseas: well I might be wrong10:54
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threeseasthere has to be a way to flush the print buffer10:55
bongzillai use to setup iptables using apt-get10:55
bongzillabut10:55
azcazandcoanyone got any suggestions as to why I am having a really hard time getting dapper to install on one of my sata drives?10:55
bongzillai dont see any scripts from init.d10:55
Lynourebongzilla: here is an example for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9451310:55
bongzillafor the iptables10:55
Lynouremine is more simple, just the rules10:55
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BeBrawwhich packages do i need to compile nvidia legacy driver on edgy eft?10:56
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paehello10:56
paragon36hello all10:56
ragamuffinno giuies talks about installation proess, where can I know about the installation?10:57
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paeI am currently downloading the alternate install cd. will I be able to install the bootloader to the beginning of the disk I installed ubuntu on, and not on the mbr?10:57
bongzillafor a while sir10:57
oldsragamuffin: it's somewhat self explanatory imo, but I'm pretty sure there's a guide on the wiki10:58
Lynourebongzilla: there is also a command  iptables-save  you can use10:58
bongzillai already did iptables-save10:58
bongzillabut it won't work10:58
ragamuffinolds: let me check10:58
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bongzillaafter i command iptables-save, then i reboot10:59
bongzillaafter that, all rules are gone10:59
Lynourebongzilla: you need to have iptables-restore somewhere.10:59
paragon36Is anyone aware of the issue with MTU size in ubuntu ...   MTU:1500 give oui unknown shown in tcpdump .... setting it to MTU:1492  fixes the problem what is the cause of this I have never had this issue any other flavours of Linux or Unix for that matter?10:59
bongzillashould i put a path after the command?11:00
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oldsyes11:00
oldsiptables-save -c > /etc/iptables-save.iptable11:00
oldslike that11:00
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eexp16olds: still he need to put iptables-restore somewhere in an initscript11:01
ihavenoname salut11:01
threeseasApparently the printer buffer thing is a long running bug inb the linux system and nobody seems to be able to fix it other than turning off the computer11:01
oldscat /etc/iptables-save.iptable | iptables-restore -c11:01
ragamuffinolds: why the hell is that i can't move out of the partitions settings and go on with my installation?11:01
ihavenoname fgggggdfgfdhhjghjghjghjhjghjgh11:01
oldsbecause you need to specify the partition you wanna install the OS on11:01
asfalthow can i specify which plugin ff uses for vid's? (i am trying to view pages which embed .asx/asf/wmv files) and i get a blank window where the player would normally reside within the page. i did install mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs, if i save an .asf file locally I can play it back. when i run about:plugins in ff i notice i seem to have other pluggins installed relating to Totem11:01
ragamuffinolds: I did thtat11:01
asfalthmm11:01
oldsand what does it say11:01
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mixandgoanyone having problems installing privoxy on edgy ?11:02
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ragamuffinolds: whernever I enter on Done Seeting it goes back to partition Disk window11:02
mixandgoI get : chown: cannot access `/etc/privoxy/*.action': No such file or directory chown: cannot access `/etc/privoxy/trust': No such file or directory11:02
oldsdid you take the disk out?11:03
oldsit's been a while since I actually installed it11:03
oldsmixandgo: probably need to read the setup again11:03
ragamuffinolds: no cd is in the drive11:04
oldsragamuffin: that's odd11:04
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ragamuffinI rebooted and tried again11:04
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ragamuffinOlds use ext journaling file system11:05
ragamuffinolds: mount poiunt none11:05
ragamuffinlds Mount optonds defualts11:05
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ragamuffinLabel none11:05
oldsno mount point? is that the default?11:05
ragamuffinRedrverve blcoks %11:05
ragamuffinSomebody asked me to select it11:06
ragamuffinbecause I am dual booting11:06
oldshmph11:06
ragamuffinIf I chnage from none what should I slelect?11:06
incorrectthe exchange connector seems a lot more unstable than it ever used to be11:06
oldsragamuffin: 1 sec, lemme fire up a virtual machine11:06
ragamuffinolds: I will be indebted to you, if you could help me11:07
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ragamuffinolds: I am so stuck11:07
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syntaxxwhats the package name of kiba-dock?11:09
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bilss_n3rdism' ok it worked but nor i have two firefoxes one as per the howto in   /opt/firefox/firefox. thats firefox 2.0 and in my fluxbox toolbar i have   Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.711:10
Flannelsyntaxx: kiba-dock isn't in the repositories11:10
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yangohello, how do I set ulimit -n for a normal, non-root user over 1024?11:11
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n3rdismbilss: i would probably remove the ubuntu 1.5 package in that case. but run it by someone else. its 5am. im ded on the inside and going to bed. Pecae all!11:12
syntaxxFlannel: how to have it?11:12
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paragon36Is anyone aware of the issue with MTU size in ubuntu ...   MTU:1500 give oui unknown shown in tcpdump .... setting it to MTU:1492  fixes the problem what is the cause of this I have never had this issue any other flavours of Linux or Unix for that matter?11:13
oldsragamuffin: set the mount point to /11:13
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oldsas per these instructions: http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/11:13
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Tomtheman70How would I reformat an external HD I have attached to my ubuntu live-CD os?11:13
oldsissue with MTU size?11:14
mutedoghi11:14
ragamuffinolds: thanks11:14
oldsTomtheman70: is it mounted?11:14
Flannel!dualboot | ragamuffin11:14
uboturagamuffin: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)11:14
Tomtheman70olds, uhh, not sure. I can't view any of the files on it, but its on the desktop.11:14
Tomtheman70olds, I just want to reformat it so I can use it to store some files from the internet.11:15
mutedogis here Chinese here ?11:15
oldsso there are already files on it11:15
Flannelsyntaxx: I'm not sure.  If it's in the repositories, it's named something completely different.  Or you installed it without going through the repositories11:15
mutedogis there Chinese here ?11:15
oldsand when you double click the icon on the desktop, what happens?11:15
Tomtheman70olds, yes, which I don't care about, they're from the old NTFS days of when I used to use it with XP11:15
ragamuffinolds: still I can't get out of that Partition disks11:15
Flannel!cn11:15
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk11:15
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mutedogok11:16
sc0tt_hey folks11:16
Tomtheman70olds, it has files with really odd names like: 11:16
syntaxxFlannel: hmm ok11:16
sc0tt_what package is libtcl8.3.so in?11:16
oldssc0tt: tcl11:16
oldslibtcl probably ;)11:16
sc0tt_duh me11:16
sc0tt_blonde day :(11:16
paragon36olds: Yes I installed ubuntu from a live cd .... the ifconfig -a showed mtu size of 1500 which is standard but  got the following symptoms :- I could surf to certain sites but not to others. I could connect to irc.freenode.net then it would hang. the tcpdump showed 'unknown oui' on changing the mtu size to 1492 it all started to work ... ????11:16
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threeseasI figured out the printer problem.... I upgraded from Breezy to 6.0611:17
Flannelsc0tt_: tcl8.3-dev (you can search at packages.ubuntu.com)11:17
threeseaswhy are printer such a problem in linux?11:17
Flannelsc0tt_: of course, that might have a more appropriate meta package11:17
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sc0tt_tcllib11:17
sc0tt_:D11:17
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oldsthreeseas: it's more political than technical11:17
Tomtheman70olds, so how would I reformat this HD?11:17
Tomtheman70olds, to make it usable for my live-cd boot of ubuntu11:18
olds1 sec11:18
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Tomtheman70Ok, I've got all night11:18
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oldshad to grab a usb drive to make sure I don't lead you astray11:19
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nanomikeFollowed this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/serverguide/C/email-services.html11:19
nanomikeGet this error in mail.log: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory.  How do I fix this?11:19
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threeseaslinux is a political OS.... it don't work they way it should11:19
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bilss_hi again11:20
oldsthreeseas: it has to do with the printer compaines11:20
olds*companies11:20
oldsTomtheman70: right click on the USB drive icon, goto properties11:20
oldstell me what it says under Location11:20
Tomtheman70"On the desktop"11:20
oldsheh11:20
oldsgoto Places11:20
threeseasolds, apparently printer companies have a say on each and every distributiona dn version of distribution11:20
oldsthen Computer11:21
Tomtheman70olds, there is no places tab11:21
oldsno no11:21
bilss_i am useing 16% of hd for dapper 40 gig hd can i make a 25gig vmware hd with still spave left i use fluxbox and running a mail server11:21
oldsyou know where the Applications thing is11:21
Tomtheman70Oh duh11:21
Tomtheman70lolol11:21
hadeswhere is chinese channel???11:21
Tomcat_!cn | hades11:21
ubotuhades: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk11:21
Tomtheman70olds, ok, so now what11:21
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hadesthanks11:22
oldsTomtheman70: View->SidePane11:22
willvdlHow do I check to see if my X server is configured properly for my graphics card?11:22
Chousukebilss_: It seems to me that you can.11:22
oldsthen there should be something that says 'USBDISK' or something similar11:22
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oldsright click on that11:22
Tomtheman70olds, BUSLINK, yep.11:22
oldssee what it says for Location11:22
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Riot777know any good app for making podcast ?:)11:22
oldsshould be /media11:22
oldsor something similar11:22
Tomcat_!de | Tomcat_11:22
ubotuTomcat_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:22
hadesdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:22
oldsmaybe /dev/ something11:22
Tomtheman70olds, computer:///11:22
Tomtheman70olds, its not formatted for the ext3 system, its NTFS11:23
oldswhen you right click on it from the side pane?11:23
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hadescat /etc/X11/xor TAB TAB11:23
willvdlhades, thanks11:23
hades#ubuntu-cn11:23
bilss_Chousuke: are you sure11:23
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Tomtheman70olds, when I right click from the side pane it give me two options -rename, and remove. both of which are greyed out11:23
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oldsweird11:23
oldsokay11:23
Chousukebilss_: well, it seems that you will still have space left.11:23
bilss_Chousuke: how much do you think11:24
Chousukebilss_: but it's your machine. I don't know what your space requirements are.11:24
oldsTomtheman70: do a 'df' for me on the commandline11:24
Tomtheman70olds, every single experience I've had with help from here hasn't been able to figure out this laptop. Its a very odd laptop indeed.11:24
Chousukebilss_: calculate. :P11:24
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Chousukebilss_: 40GB - 0.16*40GB - 25GB11:24
Chousukeexcept that's not exactly accurate.11:25
bilss_its 38 gigs sorry11:25
Tomtheman70olds, what do you want from the df?11:25
Chousukebilss_: use the calculator11:25
Tomtheman70olds, /dev/sda1             40184768   2906528  37278240   8% /media/BUSLINK ?11:25
oldsjust paste it in pastebin11:25
oldsyes11:25
olds!11:25
oldsok11:25
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h2cHi, I have a problem setting up beryl, compiz said that the Composite extension wasn't loaded. Do you have any idea ?.11:26
bilss_dont have one on fluxbox11:26
ripperis there a simple way i can display uptime uname -a , and cpu MHz & model name in one line ?11:26
ripperi've tried doing uptime && uname -a && cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep (with various methods) w/ no luck11:27
oldsTomtheman70: on the commandline do this11:27
oldssudo apt-get install gparted11:27
oldsthen when that's done11:27
oldssudo gparted11:27
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Tomtheman70kk11:28
bimberi!gksudo11:28
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"11:28
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Tomtheman70Ok, running it now11:28
oldsok11:28
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oldson the right hand side you'll see a drop down11:29
bilss_looks i have used 6 gigs ie 16% of 3811:29
Tomtheman70yep, I think I see where you're going with this.11:29
oldsselect the one that is closest in size to that Buslink11:29
screechingcathow do i change the size of all the icons on the desktop11:29
bilss_so 25 gigs  would be ok11:29
oldsright click on the partition (I assume there's jsut 1)11:29
oldsclick unmount11:29
oldsit'll say 'scanning for drives' for about 10 seconds11:30
oldsthen right click on it again11:30
oldsformat to -> ext311:30
bimberiscreechingcat: open a nautilus window and set the default zoom in the preferences11:30
Tomtheman70Here's the weird thing olds... 38 GB is set in ext3, 352 MB is extended 352 is linux-swap11:30
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oldson the buslink?11:30
Tomtheman70Yea11:30
screechingcatbimberi: that works only while it is in nautilus. i'm talking about the desktop11:30
oldsare you sure it's the buslink?11:31
bimberiscreechingcat: seems to work here (the desktop _is_ nautilus)11:31
Tomtheman70olds, yep.11:31
oldsbecause the only reason you'd have extended and linux-swap is if you tried to install linux on the drive11:31
Tomtheman70olds, yea, I did. A long time ago.11:31
oldsok :)11:31
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Tomtheman70olds, it failed, because it isn't an internal drive11:31
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oldsso yea, you can take care of those too if you like11:32
morten_how can i set up a launcher to execute a program over an ssh tunnel?11:32
Tomtheman70olds, and there's a physical scratch on the drive and it'll freeze if anything touches that part.11:32
oldsI imagine you'd just delete them11:32
screechingcatbimberi: when i increase zoom in nautlius, it applies to that folder only11:32
morten_i've tried 'ssh -x `hostname` | `appname`' but that won't work11:32
Tomtheman70olds, horay for my shoddy hardware, eh?11:32
Mowhawkoanyone know how to get damn wireless working in 6.10?11:32
oldsTomtheman70: just throw it out11:32
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Tomtheman70olds, I'm not made of money.11:32
screechingcatbimberi: i want the icons on my desktop to increase to say 12811:32
olds40gig USB drives are like $25 these days11:32
Tomtheman70olds, yea, and I'm currently on a laptop I built from a scrap pile.11:33
Tomtheman70olds, Me = No $$$11:33
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morten_Tomtheman70: for linux, ubuntu is very demanding11:33
bimberiscreechingcat: edit -> preferences, view tab, icon view defaults, default zoom level ??11:33
oldsWell you see how to format it from there?11:33
morten_it might not be your best choice if you're running really old hardware11:33
oldsmorten: he's already running it I believe11:33
Tomtheman70morten_, I built a very nice computer for free.11:33
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screechingcatbimberi: now all my icons have disappeared11:34
Tomtheman70morten, 2.4 ghz, 512 MB ram, 64 MB ati express11:34
eilkerwhat command to learn my filesystem ?11:34
morten_you call that an old pile of junk?11:34
oldstruly a question for the ages there eilker11:34
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morten_/bin/learn11:34
screechingcatbimberi: but it works. thanks.11:34
Mowhawkoanyone know how to get damn wireless working in edgy eft?11:35
Tomtheman70morten_, the speakers are blown, the touchpad and trackpoint are busted, the RAM has defects, the screen flickers off and on sometimes.11:35
eilkerolds: ?11:35
bimberiscreechingcat: an interesting pair of posts :)11:35
morten_eilker: i'm gonna try to decipher your strange language, and guess that you want to build the locate database11:35
morten_run updatedb11:35
morten_as root.11:35
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oldsI'd guess he wants to know what filesystem he's using11:35
morten_ah, ok.11:35
eilkerolds: exactly11:35
morten_well, if you haven't chosen one, you're using ext3.11:35
Tomtheman70olds, so... shouldn't formatting take more than like 1 second?11:35
screechingcatbimberi: previously i thought that the magnifying glass on the top of the window was the "default zoom control"11:35
oldsyou can do a quick 'df'11:36
morten_you could do that as well11:36
morten_or 'mount'11:36
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bimberiscreechingcat: ah, ic11:36
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Tomtheman70olds, I got an error.. but the error window is frozen11:36
morten_actually, df doesn't show fs11:36
morten_so run mount, with no command options11:36
eilkerolds: df doesnt show11:36
morten_or check /etc/fstab. same thing as mount does, tho11:37
eilkermorten: thanx11:37
screechingcatbimberi: and the disappearing is fixed by puting all the icons on the desktop again11:37
eilkermorten: it is ext311:37
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morten_told you so11:37
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compengiis there a way i can see all ubuntu commands11:37
boinkubuntu uses ex311:37
boinkubuntu uses ext311:37
morten_linux uses ext311:37
boinkno, that's not true11:37
oldsdf -T11:37
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boinklinux is only a kernel11:37
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morten_tell me one distro that doesn't use ext3 as default, smartypants11:37
bimberiscreechingcat: ah, i'm with you, icons near some of the edges would have disappeared11:37
eilkermorten: i made it ext2 , but dont remeber changed or not, so that i tried to check it11:38
boinkwith Slackware, you can choose.11:38
Tomtheman70olds, I got an error11:38
oldsmorten: a lot don't11:38
boinkand stop the name calling11:38
morten_any distro lets you choose11:38
boink!language11:38
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:38
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morten_but as far as i know, they all use ext3 as default11:38
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oldsTomtheman70: the disk is scratched11:38
morten_you took offense to me calling you smartypants?11:39
oldsI dont know what you expect, honestly11:39
boink!language11:39
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:39
morten_what kind of slack jawed loser are you?11:39
morten_for shame!11:39
Tomtheman70olds, can I use it as a frisbee now?11:39
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boinknobody likes a smartass11:39
bimberisettle down folks11:39
Tomtheman70!language11:39
Tomtheman70:P11:39
Mowhawkoanyone know how to get wireless working in edgy eft?11:39
morten_don't make me go tourettes on you, Tomtheman7011:39
bimberiMowhawko: please be less vague11:39
Tomtheman70hahaha11:39
Mowhawkono question that I've asked in the last hour has gotten any response whatsoever, so this is a start11:40
Tomtheman70My girlfriends sister has tourettes, normally I wouldn't laugh, but thats funny.11:40
bimberiMowhawko: :)11:40
HanHow can I make, for example, flash-nonfree install without it asking questions? `aptget install foo -y' doesn't help and `yes ^V^M|apt-get install foo' doesn't help either.11:40
crimsunHan: it already defaults to that format in Feisty.11:40
Mowhawkono ssids show up in networking configuration, though some do with iwconfig scan11:40
morten_really, though. the language hysteria going on in this channel is pretty pathetic sometimes.11:41
Hancrimsun, that's nice to know. But allas I still have to work with edgy for a long time.11:41
Mowhawkoand I've found a couple guides online that recommend installing wpasupplicant and network-manager-gnome and such, and i've tried that twice to no avail11:41
fourati have openoffice not starting on my edgy, is it a bug ?11:41
crimsunHan: you can either grab the feisty deb and install it, or wait for the edgy-backports one11:41
eexp16morten_: fully agree11:41
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rambo3Han idont think you can apt-get install foo -y < "Y\n"11:41
crimsunHan: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflashplugin-nonfree%2Fflashplugin-nonfree_9.0.21.78.2ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=4e1155ca4cd1bf8531dafb0bc59b08dd&arch=i386&type=main11:41
TLEfourat: I can check it for you11:41
Mowhawkowireless worked fine in dapper, but for some reason is being crabby in edgy11:42
aileanwhen is the first release of feisty out?11:42
fouratTLE how ?11:42
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Hancrimsun, it was an example, there are other packages that do the same and they won't get backported.11:42
boinkthey screwed up some of the wireless stuff on edgy11:42
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Mowhawkoany idea how to fix it? or should i just revert to dapper til it gets fixed?11:42
crimsunHan: then change the debconf interface11:42
crimsunHan: dpkg-reconfigure debconf11:42
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Mowhawkoif I enter the ssid manually, it works, but I'm on a laptop which makes that a royal pain11:43
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TLEfourat: Ubuntu uses a centrlized web application called Launchpad to register and moniter bugs, here you go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs Just search for openoffice or oo and see if there is a bug that fit your description11:43
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bimberiMowhawko: when you installed network-manager-gnome did you deconfigure network interfaces (eg. by commenting them out in /etc/network/interfaces)?11:44
zOapis there any way of editing what programs that are allowed to start up besides the service manager? it doesn't contain much of the apps I want to restrain..11:44
TLEfourat: Offcourse searching here doesn't rule out that you can have a new bug, but since Edgy is a few weeks old now the chances are small11:44
Mowhawkobimberi: yes11:44
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bimberiMowhawko: k :|11:45
boinkI have an old laptop with edgy and a netgear WG511T .. doesn't work11:45
boinkdamm :/11:45
Mowhawkobimberi: weird thing is, the new network manager doesn't even show up, as the guides say it's supposed to11:45
screechingcatboink: ndiswrapper ?11:45
MowhawkoI'm not really sure what else to try11:45
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bimberiMowhawko: doesn't show up?  no applet do you mean?11:46
sc0tt_hey folks11:46
TLEailean: Search the wiki for "feisty release schedule" or "feisty schedule"11:46
sc0tt_whats the manual way to add a printer to cups?11:46
sc0tt_the printers interface just dies when trying to add on :(11:46
sc0tt_one*11:46
screechingcatboink: i have a netgear too. i gave up and drew a really long ethernet wire from my router to the computer11:46
Mowhawkobimberi: yeah, a few of the screenies show a signal strength bar that's supposed to appear after restart, which is what allows selecting between network devices11:46
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bimberiMowhawko: try running it manually - 'nm-applet --sm-disable'11:47
TLEailean: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule?highlight=%28feisty%29%7C%28schedule%2911:47
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Mowhawkobimberi: don't seem to get any response from that, it's just kinda hanging11:48
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bimberiMowhawko: yes it should just sit there - do you have a notification area applet? that's where the network-manager applet appears11:49
boinkthe WG511T should work fine on ubuntu.11:49
boinkunder the ubuntu documentation it's marked all with "YES YES YES"11:49
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screechingcatboink: did ubuntu recognize it when you installed the card and restarted ?11:50
boinkhmm, no11:50
boinkbut lspci does11:50
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screechingcatboink: try opening system>admin>netwroking11:50
boinkI did11:50
screechingcatand is iut there ?11:51
boinkno11:51
boinkit's not loading the modules11:51
screechingcatand lspci recognizes it ?11:51
boinkyes11:51
Mowhawkook, the applet pops up, but doesn't let me configure anything11:51
boinkdamm edgy11:51
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boinkI really think two releases a year is too much11:52
constrictoranybody knows where i can find some really simple and to the point perl tutorials. I want to start using it11:52
screechingcatwierd! but did it work in dapper ?11:52
Mowhawkobimberi: just a few options,  Enable Networking, Enable Wireless, and some info selections11:52
fouratTLE: seems that noone reported this issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/7311911:52
boinkdapper is fairly well done11:52
boinkbut it has bugs too11:52
bimberiMowhawko: no list of networks? including "Wired Network"?11:52
Mowhawkonope11:52
bimberiMowhawko: and /etc/network/interfaces only has lines referring to "lo" enabled?11:53
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TLEfourat: Yeah I saw that one, does it fit your description? Showing the splash for a short time before crashing ?11:53
Mowhawkobimberi: double-checking, but i think so, yes11:53
screechingcatboink: well edgy is mostly fine. its just a few peices here and there that are fryed11:53
boinkheh, I had massive problems with mysql on amd64 edgy11:53
boinkmysql-server-5.011:53
Mowhawkobimberi: affirmative11:54
fouratTLE: it mine :)11:54
bimberiMowhawko: hmm :|11:54
boinkso, edgy is something like debian sid11:54
boinkexpect massive amounts of pain :/11:54
TLEfourat: ?11:54
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screechingcatboink: i gave up on my Netgear wifi and everything else workd fine in edgy11:55
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bilss_hi11:55
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fouratTLE: "does it fit your description?" ==> It's my description, am the issuer11:55
boinkbut why doesn't the WG511T work then when the documentation is so keen on it?11:55
boinkthat's madness11:55
Mowhawkoit's just frustrating that all this wireless worked fine in dapper, and now is all messed up11:55
boinkit's like why even read the ubuntu documentation?11:55
bimberiMowhawko: yes, understandable.  unfortunately i'm out of ideas at this point sorry11:55
screechingcatboink: wait a second . . . . . did u upgrade or clean install ?11:56
boinkclean install11:56
Mowhawkobimberi: thanks for the help anyway, appreciate it11:56
bimberiMowhawko: np :)11:56
TLEfourat: Ah so you made a new one? How about this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/6367611:56
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screechingcatboink: 2 options - wait for feisty (6 months more) remove edgy and re-install dapper11:57
boinkheh, I just might do that11:57
boinkit seems that dapper works better, afterall it's a LTS11:57
bilss_according to df command i am useing 80% on hda1 but what about varrun 1% var lock 1% udev 1% and  lrm 6% must i  add them all together to get a total or is 80%  the total11:57
Doowwhat's LTS?11:58
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Doowbeen wondering that for some time now =)11:58
eexp16Doow: long term support11:58
Enselicshouldnt I get output when I issue: echo 'adsf' > grep a -11:58
Dooweexp16: aha, ty11:58
constrictoranyone do perl here?11:58
boinka LTS release has a 5 year server support and 3 year desktop support11:58
screechingcatDoow: five years worth of patches is an LTS11:58
bilss_as dapper was the fist in the long line of server support11:58
boinkwhearas edgy only has 18 month support11:59
Mowhawkomaybe stupid question, but there's no way to downgrade dist without fresh install is there?11:59
Doowscreechingcat: how long for the other ones?11:59
stefgbliss_ /var/lock and udev and stuff are little filesystems in tmpfs (RAM), generated at boot. You don't need to consider these in your space calculations11:59
boink!downgrade11:59
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.11:59
mneptonMowhawko: not saefly11:59
mnepton*safely11:59
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Mowhawkofresh install it is11:59
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screechingcatDoow: edgy has 18 months11:59
Surghihi11:59
Mowhawkostupid edgy ><11:59
bilss_ according to df command i am useing 80% on hda1 but what about varrun 1% var lock 1% udev 1% and  lrm 6% must i  add them all together to get a total or is 80%  the total11:59
bimberiEnselic: no, that creates a file called grep with contents "asdf a -"11:59
Doowscreechingcat: good enough for me =)11:59
stefgbilss_:  /var/lock and udev and stuff are little filesystems in tmpfs (RAM), generated at boot. You don't need to consider these in your space calculations11:59
screechingcatDoow: yes especially since feisty releases in 6 months more and i'll be upgrading to it12:00
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Doowscreechingcat: same here12:00
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Enselicbimberi: Ahh, y12:00
Enselicbimberi: hey youre smart, thanks12:00
Surghiwhat program is the best for managing all appointments and thigs to do AT a speciefied day or BEFORE a specified day?   A normal calender does not give me the complete overview I need,  a simple task list is too simple  ... I am not sure what I need, but whatever I tried out, it was not good enough12:00
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bimberiEnselic: tell my wife :P12:01
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Rodietzehey I got 2 simple and quick questions, First: how do I switch between kdm for gnome and vice versa? Second: HOw do I change KDE Look and feel without having to quit a gnome session? yeah I got KDE too12:02
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Rodietzeoops KDM for GDM12:02
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ztechyay12:02
ztechsucessfully installed ubuntu12:02
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screechingcatztech: welcome ;/12:03
bilss_stefg: please look here  http://pastebin.ca/256540  before adding a 25gig vmware HD i was useing oinly 16% now is the total  91% or is it more12:03
huibert Rodietze: start the kcontrol program in an terminal.12:03
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Rodietzewhen I try to start KDM it says: KDM isn't your default Greeter12:03
catsyhi i'm using ubuntu latest live12:03
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catsyhow do i install it into my hdd instead12:03
bimberiRodietze: usually you have one (kdm or gdm) and choose Gnome or KDE from the Sessions menu at login.  Is that what you're wanting?12:03
bimbericatsy: Install icon on the desktop12:04
ztechare there 'themes' i can download thru package manager?12:04
screechingcatRodietze: when i installed kde over my ubuntu system, i was asked wether i wanted kdm or gdm12:04
catsyr u sure12:04
Rodietzebimberi: no, I have KDE and GNOME, but I'm tired of GDM, but I want to know how to switch from GDM to KDM as the default greeter12:04
bimberiRodietze: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm'12:05
catsydoes it actually have it12:05
stefgbilss_: why should df tell you your drive is 91% full if it doesn't mean it?12:05
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screechingcatztech: plenty of themes over at www.gnome-look.org12:05
bimbericatsy: my 6.10 Desktop CDs have had it12:05
TLEfourat: Ok I misunderstood what you said. But does the bug I sent to you fit your description ?12:05
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fouratTLE: am checking12:05
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Rodietzebimberi:  ok thanks :) by the way as the second question, u have any idea on what is the kde console program for changing look and feel?12:05
TLEfourat: ok12:06
catsybimberi, r u sure the live cd can?12:06
fouratTLE: i've added the videooverlay stuff to my xorg and will restart x12:06
bimberiRodietze: no, but someone mentioned kcontrol earlier12:06
oscaris there some issue with the ati driver for xorg?  it fails to load complaining of an ABI error12:06
Rodietzeah thanks must be that12:06
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krampo_hhello, I was looking for some kind of software with GUI, which could restart services (eg. Apache, ProFTPd, Samba ...etc.).  Preferably not webmin and even not web based. Perfectly if it would be some kind of frontend to default /etc/init.d xxx restart commands...12:06
bimbericatsy: yes, although it's mostly known as the "Desktop CD"12:06
asakalli212:06
eilkeri have 80 gb hard disk,12:06
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zOapcatsy, yes, the live cd has an install icon on the desktop12:07
eilkerc: (hda1) 30 gb // windows xp/fat3212:07
eilkerd: (hda5) 26 gb// windows xp/fat3212:07
eilkere (hda7) 19 gb// kubuntu 6.06 /ext312:07
eilkeri wanna take 15 gb from hda1 or hda5 (i can provide 15 gb free in d ,by cut and paste to c). i wanna make hda7 34 gb. how can i do this in a safe way?12:07
eilkeris partition magic solution ? or what do u suggest me ? i am scare of grub error and mbr thing.i have installed lamp server to my kubuntu 6.06, it already is web and ftp server. i dont wanna lose those by stupid mistakes, as you see below i dont have space in hda7(kubuntu) and i am gonna install vmware to check other distro's.12:07
eilkerhelp please...12:07
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tijndont paste...12:07
zever!paste | eilker12:07
ubotueilker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:07
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bilss_stefg: thats not my point what i am tering to find is that i have a hd of 25 gigs for vmware iis the the case that now only 9% of my linux hd is free and what is that in terms of gigs?12:07
krampo_heilker: there's Gparted LiveCD12:07
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bilss_trying12:07
krampo_hguess more or less the same as Partition Magic12:08
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krampo_hcan resize ext2/3 NTFS FAT12:08
stefgbilss_: df -h12:08
oscarhow much is a 200G drive today?  $40 ?12:08
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krampo_hdepends on where you live :)12:08
TLEfourat: Ok, if it turn out that it is the same bug then please close the one you made so that we don't have dublicates12:08
tijnhehe12:09
eilkerkrampo_h: if i use gparted, will i get grub error or will i lose my data ?12:09
oscardoes it?12:09
tijn250 gb external hdd usb2.0 105 EUR12:09
eilkerkrampo_h: and may i use it when ubuntu working ?12:09
bilss_sfefg: ok thanks   /dev/hda1              36G   31G  3.3G  91% /12:09
bilss_  its 3.3 gigs which at the moment is ok12:09
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oscarshop around the internet12:10
tijnbut thats external, internal should be cheaper12:10
redDEADresolvedoes edgy support dual core processors out of the box. or do i have to enable it?12:10
oscar350GB external here for $7912:10
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krampo_heilker: I think it must be ok. Anyway, if you get a grub error, you can always use LiveCD ro repair ir :)12:11
stefgbilss_: you should consider to put virtual machines on a separate partition. It's quicker if the .vmdk's are contigous and in one piece...12:11
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eilkerkrampo_h: and when i resize, will i lose my data ?12:12
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oscareilker, always backup data before resizing partitions12:13
CoRnJuLiOxhey all, im new to ubuntu and i was wondering how do i access my windows drive? i've got two drives right now, windows isn't loading (on the first drive) so i installed ubuntu on the second drive and now i'm trying to get crap off of it.12:13
stefg!mount12:13
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks12:13
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bimberi!mountwindows | CoRnJuLiOx12:14
ubotuCoRnJuLiOx: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse12:14
mats!hdparm12:14
ubotuhdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.6-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 228 kB12:14
huibertCoRnJuLiOx: ubuntu should be able to mount the windows partitions, read only, should work per default.12:14
eilkeroscar: i dont have chance to back up 50 gb data :(12:14
oscareilker, why not?12:14
huibertFor read write, you might have to install "drivers"12:14
stefg50 GB is a 40 buck harddrive , or a pile of a dozen DVD's12:15
eilkeroscar: i dont have enough dvd writer, and i am not in a lan, and can qtparted be used when kubuntu is working ?12:15
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oscareilker, because you can't get a 200GB drive off ebay for $20 ?12:15
DavieyHi, does anybody use XDMCP?12:16
oscaryou want to drive a porsche but can't afford the tires.  don't complain then.12:16
eilkeroscar: 200 gb drive is nearly 100 dollars here12:16
oscari don't even think they sell 200G in stores here.  the newest are 750 and the lowest is probably 30012:17
stefgfor 3,5 inch...12:17
EnselicI want to see all lines of cvs up that dont start with P or c, but:     cvs up | grep ^[^cP]       gives output like: cvs server: Updating app12:17
eilkeroscar: can qtparted be used when kubuntu is working ?12:18
oscareilker, i'm sure saturn or arlt or one of those stores has specials on drives12:18
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CoRnJuLiOxok, i ran the diskmounter script that the bot gave me and it mounted the drives (i think), but when i try to move to the folder, it says 'permission denied'12:18
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bimberiCoRnJuLiOx: are you using the file manager (Nautilus)?12:19
huibertCoRnJuLiOx: yes, moving is a WRITE opperation, which is not supported on NTFS(windows) partitions12:19
oscareilker, if you resize your windows partition good luck.  high chance it will not be bootable12:19
huibertoops, you wrote, "move too", sorry12:20
huibertmoving into folders should work.12:20
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felixjethow i can switch wine apps in ubuntu? when i do alt+tab i switch gnome apps but not the ones under wine12:20
CoRnJuLiOxbtw, is there a shortcut to nautilus?12:20
eilkeroscar: i know it, i ask how to do it in a safe way ? that's why i am here12:20
bimberiCoRnJuLiOx: where are you trying to move to the folder?12:21
oscareilker, only safe way is to backup all your important data12:21
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huibertCoRnJuLiOx: you can assign a key to open your HOME. I assigned the left "windows" key for it.12:21
sc4ttrbrainxmms can only be launched from terminal,if it from menu bar,then it fails to lauch help me12:21
Tomcat_Enselic: Use egrep instead of grep... that should do it.12:21
Duesentrieboscar, eilker: I have resized windows partitions before, using parted and even fdisk. Never had problems.12:21
asfaltdoes the gnome weather applet work for anyone? i get a panel error when i attempt to add it12:21
sc4ttrbrainxmms can only be launched from terminal,if it from menu bar,then it fails to lauch help me12:22
oscarDuesentrieb, sometimes it works.  but sometimes if fails.  i've seen both.12:22
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Duesentrieboscar, eilker: make sure it'S defragmented first, and there's no data at the end of the partition. on next boot, windows will do a checkdisk. And yes, there'S no guarantee. Always make a backup.12:22
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Duesentriebbe prepared to install from scratch - then try to resize for conveniance12:22
sc4ttrbrainxmms can only be launched from terminal,if it from menu bar,then it fails to lauch help me :(12:22
EnselicTomcat_: It appears as if the message was used as stderr,      cvs up 2>&1 | grep ^[^cP]     worked12:23
Tomcat_Enselic: Mh... regular grep should work. Maybe try: grep "^[^cP] "12:23
Tomcat_Enselic: Or that, alright. :D12:23
eilkerDuesentrieb,oscar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33654/12:23
oscarDuesentrieb, i agree.  you must be prepared for the loss and be pleasantly surprised if it works  :-)12:23
ztechwill running samba..let me log in to this machine remotely??12:23
Duesentriebsc4ttrbrain: repeating your question every few seconds doesn't get you much sympathy, you know...12:23
ztechvia http?12:23
eilkerDuesentrieb,oscar: i have described in pastebin12:23
CoRnJuLiOxbimberi: i'm trying to get to it in nautilus, and its saying that i don't have the permissions necessary to view the files12:23
Duesentriebztech: "log in via http"? What does that mean?12:23
sc4ttrbrainsorry12:23
sc4ttrbrainit just weird problem12:23
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ztechmeaning i can log in like http://myipaddresshere12:24
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oscareilker, there's nothing i need to see/read   you know the solution already12:24
bimberiCoRnJuLiOx: quit and try 'gksudo nautilus'.  be careful, you'll be running it as the superuser, don't do any damage :)12:24
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Duesentriebztech: log in via a url? that does not make any sense... please define "log in"12:24
eexp16ztech: neither smb nor http are protocols for remote logins. use ssh for that.12:24
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oscareilker, personally, i always have an external drive to back up my entire drive, and always keep my backup images up to date.12:25
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DreamerHxChi everyone12:25
oscareilker, i consider it a necessity of using a computer and include the cost in the overall total12:25
CoRnJuLiOxbimberi: got it, thanks. /msg doesn't seem to work?12:25
ztechlike in XP, there are some software u can download and set the machine to log in via remotely via http://ipaddress12:25
ztechTheres gotta be something similar for ubuntu12:26
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eilkeroscar: it would be good to have external hd, thanx anyway...12:26
oscarztech, you mean a web server?  try apache12:26
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bimberiCoRnJuLiOx: yes, it's working, best to work in here so others can tell you if I'm giving dodgy advice :)12:26
DreamerHxCI need help because yesterday I had an ATI and I could not boot up Ubuntu and now I have an nVIDIA and I cannot boot neither!12:26
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ztechI know i can run a ftp server..but wondering if theres something that will allow me to log in via http12:26
oscareilker, or an external dvd burner to burn to12:26
Duesentriebztech: i'm pretty sure that's a misunderstanding. please provide a link to such a software, so we can figure out what you mean.12:27
oscareilker, those i think are really cheap now.  maybe $20-$3012:27
ztechduesentrieb, www.filesharepro.com12:27
DavieyHi, does has anybody tried logging in using XDMCP under edgy?12:27
eilkeroscar: where do u live ?12:27
Duesentriebztech: there's rdesktop, which gives you a graphical login to another windows maching. there are similar things for linux. there's ssh... none of which use http.12:27
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oscareilker, usa west coast, but i lived in germany too12:27
ztechhttp://www.wfshome.com/12:27
eilkeroscar: here is cyprus and not cheap as you said:)12:28
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ztechhttp://www.sharing-file.com/12:28
eilkeroscar: 70-80 $12:28
oscareilker, what about ebay?12:28
felixjethow i can switch wine apps in ubuntu? when i do alt+tab i switch gnome apps but not the ones under wine12:28
DreamerHxCI need help because yesterday I had an ATI and I could not boot up Ubuntu and now I have an nVIDIA and I cannot boot neither!12:28
DreamerHxCplease12:28
DreamerHxCI cannot even see live cd desktop12:28
eilkeroscar: i havent used it before...12:29
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eilkeroscar: dont they add transportation money ?12:29
oscareilker, welcome to the 21st century12:29
bimberiCoRnJuLiOx: yes you should be able to copy/paste from the windows drive12:29
eilkeroscar: ahahah:)12:29
Duesentriebztech: so, you are talking about file sharing / remote file access, not about a login at all.12:29
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ztechDuesentrieb, yes..but those programs u can set a user/name/pass.12:30
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ztechi just want to setup my photoshop files..and access them from anywhere in the USA, is that possible/? apache will allow me?12:30
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Duesentriebztech: i have never looked closely, but afaik ubuntu comes with http-based file sharing build in.12:31
oscarztech, apache with mod userdir12:31
eilkeroscar: thanx for your interest, checking ebay now, see you12:31
Duesentrieboscar: well, that requires quite a bit of knowledge and setup to do what he wants...12:31
ztechafaik  ubuntu? i google that12:31
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oscarDuesentrieb, apt-get install apache2; a2enmod userdir12:32
eexp16ztech: afaik is short for "as far as i know"12:32
Duesentriebztech: afaik = "as far as i know" :)12:32
ztechlol..sorry12:32
Duesentriebztech: well, ubuntu offers sharing via nfs and samba per default. There are probably also webDAV solutions around - perhaps look into that. ssh/fish is also good, but not http.#12:32
Acke_ubuhey how do i mount ubuntu drives in mac os x?12:32
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ztechare the default built in drivers for nvidia tnt2 in the latest ubuntu release good? or something better exist12:33
oscarztech, if you just want to be able to browse the files with a web browser then set up apache and mod auth12:34
DuesentriebAcke_ubu: depends on the filesystem, i guess.12:34
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ztechpackage manager turns up nothing12:34
constrictori'm not sure why but firefox 2.0 seems a tad heavier and crashes more often than 1.5 did in Edgy anyways12:34
joshua__firefox 2.0 is better in windows than it is in linux. it doesn't really feel like a complete version.12:35
Duesentrieboscar: anyway... do you know anything abouit the new UUID based mounting mechanism in edgy? it misbehaves (doesn't mount vfat drives on boot).12:35
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constrictoryeah12:35
Duesentriebi'd like to understand what it is for, and how it works...12:35
oscarDuesentrieb, yes i've used uuid mounting for a while even before ubuntu used it12:35
constrictorjoshua__ do you use alternatives?12:36
Acke_ubuDuesentrieb: whats standard when instilling ubuntu on a mac? ext3?12:36
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Duesentriebztech: http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=ubuntu+web-based+file-sharing&btnG=Suche&meta=12:36
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DuesentriebAcke_ubu: i have no clue. i'd guess so.12:36
boinkI'm using the linux Firefox 2.0 on FreeBSD, works better I think than 1.512:36
oscarDuesentrieb, uuid is just a feature of mount where you replace the device name with the uuid you which you can obtain with the blkid command12:36
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boinkand on edgy, Firefox 2.0 is quite good12:37
Duesentrieboscar: well, when upgrading to edgy, it automatically converted all mounts in fstab to use uuids. it doesn't work as expected. I could just change it back, i guess, but i'd like to get some background...12:37
DreamerHxCI need help because yesterday I had an ATI and I could not boot up Ubuntu and now I have an nVIDIA and I cannot boot neither! I can't see the desktop12:37
oscarDuesentrieb, this way if you have multiple external usb drives for instance, they will always get mounted regardless of whether they show up as sda, sdb, sdc or whatever12:37
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oscarthat's the reason for using uuid because its independent of the device name since the device name is somewhat arbitratry12:38
Duesentrieboscar: also, if i mount manually, the mount disappears when i close the session (which seems very strange to me). It kind of behaves like mounts for usp sticks - but it's a normal vfat partion, which should always be mounted.12:38
Duesentrieboscar: so, you are saying that the uuid-based mount is handy for removable drives, but doesn't make any difference for a build in device?12:38
oscarDuesentrieb, i don't know, there's really weird stuff that goes on with ubuntu and automounting stuff, ignoring entries in fstab.  i actually can't figure it out12:39
DavieyHi, does has anybody tried logging in using XDMCP under edgy?12:39
oscarDuesentrieb, yes12:39
Duesentrieboscar: grmbl. yea, thatS why i'm here, i guess.12:39
Duesentriebok, i'll just change it back to the traditional way and see if it helps.12:39
oscarDuesentrieb, if the device names aren't going to change for your built in drives12:39
Duesentriebi wouldn't know why they should change. also, there are device labels for that, no?12:40
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oscarDuesentrieb, maybe on a server with multiple scsi bays or something where you'd add/remove disks then it could be a problem, but on a normal desktop its not12:40
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napslapmoin moin12:41
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oscarDuesentrieb, i think devlabel is another way of handling the problem but i think a little more compllex.  uuid is nice because its simple and is already supported by mount12:41
omeganine!xgl12:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems12:41
cwilluhow do I set/force a splash resolution for the boot splash, to happen every boot?12:42
napslapHello who can help me with the kernel update12:42
CoRnJuLiOxi can't copy->paste from the windows drive that i just mounted. i can get to the stuff, though12:43
devilsadvocatecwillu, you have to set the vg = something option in the kernel boot options12:43
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devilsadvocatecwillu, and that dowes not always work12:43
cwilludevilsadvocate: where are those documented?12:43
devilsadvocatecwillu, ermmm. i dont remember  :|12:43
devilsadvocatelet me see if i can find it12:43
oscarcwillu, in the kernel source documentation under fb/vesa12:43
cwilluthanks :)12:43
Duesentrieboscar: thanks for the advice. devlabels have worked nicely for me in the past, and seem pretty streight forward.12:44
Duesentriebnapslap: no one can help if you don't state your problem12:45
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Davieycwillu, do you mean usplash splash screen?  if thats the case /boot/grub/menu.1st12:45
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Davieycwillu, look under the boot option and set vga=x (x being a code)12:45
napslapmy problem is that i donot know how to set the kernel right in the xconfig12:45
cwillunvm, I'll just get rid of the splash;  not worth the trouble :p12:45
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oscari hate splash screens12:46
russis there any way to see this page -> http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm12:46
oscari don't even like splash logos12:46
Davieycwillu, halfway down this page is a list of the 7xx codes12:46
Davieyoscar, i have just made my own custom splash!  sure i can't tempt you?12:47
omeganineIs anyone else having issues with the http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org repository?  Im trying to install beryl and stuff but i keep getting 404s back12:47
DreamerHxCI need help because yesterday I had an ATI and I could not boot up Ubuntu and now I have an nVIDIA and I cannot boot neither! I can't see the desktop. what the hell is happening?12:47
oscarDaviey, i used to use fbsplash which had a kickass background debian logo, but it was such a pain to get working12:47
Davieyruss, install the appropriate codec12:47
joshua__dreamer, are you using compiz or beryl?12:48
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DreamerHxCi dont know because I never booted up the desktop12:48
cwilluthe splashscreen itself works, but vt's are corrupted after if I used one while booting12:48
russDaviey, no the problem is the JavaScript detetcs WMP 10 is not available12:48
CaptainMorganhow do I view all programs currently running?12:48
Davieyoscar, embarrassingly it has taken me a number of hours to build my own12:48
DreamerHxCwhen I get to logon screen and I log in....there's nothing showing12:48
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DreamerHxCa yellow screen12:48
russDaviey, if you go to the page it always redirects12:48
cwilluCaptainMorgan: ps aux in a terminal will do it12:48
oscarDaviey, yeah, it was cool, but then they changed stuff and i just didn't have the energy to keep up with it12:49
joshua__dreamer: will it boot up without using your video card?12:49
Davieyruss, i see what you mean.  firefox is trying to only play the flash stuff12:49
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h00plaCaptainMorgan: either ps axf in a console or open system monitor from Preferences12:49
DreamerHxCwith no video card?12:49
matsCaptainMorgan: if you want too see whats using what in terms of memory cpy ect. use "top"12:49
Davieyoscar, it's is actually really easy once you have done it!12:49
russDaviey, does the page redirect you though12:49
russ?12:49
oscarDaviey, if i were a  hardware vendor putting out my own custom linux boxes then i guess it would be worth it12:49
DreamerHxChow do I know it if I have no videocard?12:49
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Davieyoscar, i made it for a HTPC frontend in the lounge, so wanted it to look nice12:50
joshua__try it without any video hardware and see if it'll boot up then12:50
russDaviey, i get redirected to this page always -> http://video.msn.com/v/us/req.aspx?r=4&hf=1&h=http%3A//video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm%3Fhttp%3A//video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm12:50
DreamerHxCbut how do I know if it booted up?12:50
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Davieyruss, me too12:50
joshua__it'd load the desktop. just try it12:50
russDaviey, yeah so there is no way around it easily :-(12:50
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DreamerHxCbut12:50
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omeganine!beryl12:51
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl12:51
CaptainMorganmy processor says its in 50% use and I barely have anything running!? ex: Irc/consoles, browsers, and text editors12:51
DreamerHxClet me see if I understood: you want me to remove my hardoware videocard so I can't see ANYTHING in my screen and I boot up linux?12:51
russCaptainMorgan, is this edgy12:51
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DaverocksCaptainMorgan: check which process is hogging the cpu in top12:52
joshua__plug your monitor into an onboard port for it12:52
CoRnJuLiOxok, is there a way to make a shortcut that would automatically 'gksudo nautilus' for me?12:52
russCaptainMorgan, might be nautilus bug12:52
Davieyruss, no sorry.  i get redirected to another page12:52
oscarCaptainMorgan, try running the top command12:52
DreamerHxCI don't understand, sorry12:52
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joshua__if i'm not making sense, it's because i've been around my family all day. i'm drunk.12:52
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DreamerHxCmy motherboard has no integrated videocard12:52
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Davieyruss, do you have w32 codec installed? and adobe flash12:52
NegativeSpaceIs there a piece of software which can write over free disk space?12:52
DreamerHxChum that explains many things12:52
CaptainMorganrpmg?12:52
afiefI've got a secondary partition mounted as HDA1, it is owned by root. i want regular users to have RW access to it. how can i do that?12:52
russDaviey, yes12:52
CaptainMorganti's the hog12:52
CaptainMorgan99% cpu usage12:53
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oscarCaptainMorgan, i never heard of anything that runs a process with that name12:53
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Davieyruss, i egt redirected to http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/fv.htm?http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm12:53
asfalthmmm just trying to download beryl, seems their mirror is broken or in the process of being moved but neither works12:53
oscarCaptainMorgan, try running ps aux |grep rpmg12:53
russDaviey, yeah ;-(12:53
afiefI've got a secondary partition mounted as HDA1, it is owned by root. i want regular users to have RW access to it. how can i do that?12:53
russCaptainMorgan, killall rpmg12:54
oscarCaptainMorgan, try killing it if you're sure you don't need it12:54
Davieyruss, it's a different page to the one you were12:54
oscarruss, killall -TERM rpmg12:54
oscartry to kill it nicely first12:54
CaptainMorganI just tried to kill it using top... and after becomign su.. and nothing happened.. it's still ther12:54
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russDaviey, only thing different is you aren't using firefox 1.512:54
beligumhi all, anyone developing using JBoss in here?12:55
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DavieyCaptainMorgan, ps -A | grep rpmg   (take the process id) and type sudo kill -9 process_id12:55
oscarCaptainMorgan, don't kill it with top.  use the kill command.  e.g. kill -15 <pid>12:55
Daverocksoscar: killall doesn't accept something like "-TERM", that's only for "kill", but i think something like "killall -s TERM" has the same effect12:55
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CaptainMorganbeautiful Daviey that did it12:55
CaptainMorganvery nice12:55
CaptainMorganphew12:55
DavieyCaptainMorgan, np12:56
CaptainMorgannot even sure how long that's been happening.. I just happened to glance down at my system montior12:56
russi use ubuntu since 4.10 -- yay!12:56
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Daverocksruss: i'm going to expect responses from people in here who boast that they've been using ubuntu way before 4.10 ... just waiting for the flooding to come in ;)12:56
russDaverocks, was there any alphas before 4.10 ?12:57
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russheh12:57
Daverocksruss: i'm not an ubuntu person really, no idea :P12:57
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DavieyDaverocks, i felt like saying i have been using it since 4.10 beta (but i haven't)12:57
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oscari've been using ubuntu since the days of slink12:58
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russyeah, over 2 years now ... gentoo before that, since 1.x12:58
CoRnJuLiOxi've been using ubuntu for like, 1 hour now :-(12:58
DavieyHi, has anybody tried logging in using XDMCP under edgy?12:58
fnfDaviey: Yes ?12:58
Davieyfnf, did it work?12:58
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fnfDaviey: I tried it once, and it worked.12:59
oscarnoone here knows what slink is12:59
mats*memories* gentoo - using 2 days by compilling kde :p12:59
Davieyfnf, when i select the remote machine (autodects it on network) and pressconnect.  screen goes black and goes back to local gdm login :(12:59
CoRnJuLiOxthe add/remove applications thing looks like its still installing, but i don't see a progress bar..12:59
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russoscar, i do12:59
Daverocksmats: heh, hardware has advanced so much12:59
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russoscar, but ubuntu was definitely not around -)01:00
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oscarruss, the precursor01:00
fnfDaviey: Did you take a look at the log, I have not experienced problems with XDMCP so not really sure.01:00
oscarprogenitor01:00
Davieyfnf, any idea where the log is?01:00
cwilluDaverocks: started with 4.10, but was using beatrix before that01:00
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cwillucompiling gnome into the kernel ftw!01:01
fnfDaviey: Two possible localtions could be /var/log/syslog and /var/log/Xorg.*.log01:01
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Daverockscwillu: compiling _GNOME_ into the kernel? wtflol01:01
Davieyfnf, cheers01:02
oscarmodprobe -r gnome01:02
Davieyfnf, seems strange that neither work though.  I have tried connected both directions from two machines01:02
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Daverocksoscar: heh, you wouldn't want to do that while running gnome XD01:02
CoRnJuLiOxok, im having problems w/permissions, i've moved 3 items from my windows drive (two folders, one mp3), and neither are accessible by anything other than the root nautilus window i have open. i've changed the owner and the group, but they still show up as locked on my desktop.01:03
russDaverocks, i dont know of any modules named gnome01:03
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russCoRnJuLiOx, chmod 777 when in doubt01:04
Daverocksruss: neither did i, but obviously when cwillu compiled gnome into the kernel, he could have made it a kernel module :P ... and i think you wanted to address oscar01:04
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fnfDaviey: Sorry as the problem doesn't apply to mine, have you searched on Google yet ?. I'm of no use for this.01:04
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russDaverocks, compiling gnome into the kernel!!!??  are you crazy!?!?!01:04
cwilluDaverocks: I didn't compile it;  it was a 'feature' of the distro01:04
cwillu:p01:04
cwilluI might be misremembering it though, looking for the url01:05
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Daverocksruss: hey, _I_ didn't do it. i thought it was crazy too :D01:05
oscarubuntu's supermegapatched kernel maybe?01:05
Daverockscwillu: interesting XD01:05
russsounds like a security nightmare waiting to happen01:05
Daverocksyuh XD01:05
jim777hello all - anyone had much experience with raki/syne to syn windows mobile devices with k/ubuntu01:05
Daverocksall the code running in kernel-sapce01:05
Daverocks*space01:05
Daverocksnot good01:05
selinuxiumhow do I alter it so as mp4 are opened in mplayer not Movie Player01:05
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jim777make that raki/synce01:05
Daverocksselinuxium: from nautilus?01:06
russselinuxium, from desktop, right-click, properties01:06
russon some file01:06
selinuxiumok cheers...01:06
Daverocksselinuxium: no, i mean, _when_ you open it from nautilus?01:06
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web_knowshi :)01:06
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fnfDoes anyone know how to instruct Ubuntu to load the nvidiafb module instead og vesafb at load without having to recompile the kernel ?01:07
jim777no takers on raki/synce?01:07
DreamerHxCim trying to install nvidia drivers in console mode but I get NVIDIA: Failed to load NVIDIA Kernel Module. Screen found but none have a usable configuration after restarting gdm. what can I do?01:07
sc4ttrbrainxmms error,help me, please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1800482#post180048201:07
russfnf, /etc/modules01:07
selinuxiumI am opening it via PenguinTV I would love to just get shot of Totem altogether, but i am sure I probably use it unknowingly01:07
DaverocksDreamerHxC: you sure X isn't running when you install?01:08
oscarDreamerHxC, i got an error like that also. i had to run this:  insmod nvidia01:08
fnfruss: That doesn't work if I want the module to load at the very beginning, to have high-resolution console.01:08
selinuxiumDaverocks: ^^^01:08
DreamerHxCno, im not sure, in wiki can't see anything about stoping gdm01:08
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russfnf, you mean before full boot??01:08
DaverocksDreamerHxC: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop01:08
DaverocksDreamerHxC: better would be "init 3"01:08
russfnf, probably in your initram then01:08
DreamerHxCbut that before installing drivers?01:08
DreamerHxCinit 3 instead init.d?01:09
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DaverocksDreamerHxC: sorry, "sudo init 3"01:09
russfnf, check your initrd file01:09
DaverocksDreamerHxC: be warned that will shut down your X session and everything in it01:09
[GuS] Bonjour...01:09
fnfruss: That's not really necessary, I'd want a resolution higher than the max 1024x768 that vesa can provide. If there's any step to do it after booting, I'd be glad.01:09
DreamerHxCi can't run graphic mode so I don't mind01:09
fnfruss: I'll check and come back.01:09
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DaverocksDreamerHxC: oh lol :P01:09
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russfnf, well modprobe01:09
DreamerHxCwhat is "sudo init 3" for?01:10
DaverocksDreamerHxC: changes to runlevel 301:10
russfnf, after booting ;-)01:10
DaverocksDreamerHxC: runlevel 3 is notable for not running a graphical interface01:10
DreamerHxCok so is it gdm stoped already?01:10
fnfruss: modprobe wouldn't automagically bring up higher res, I've tried.01:10
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sc4ttrbrainxmms error,help me, please see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1800482#post180048201:10
CoRnJuLiOxis there an equivalent to ctrl+alt+del in linux? i need to kill this add/remove applications box, its been sitting here for a while and i can't seem to make it go away01:11
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fnfruss: I'm aware of 915resolution, but that seems unstable for some, unfortunately. People with ATI card can recompile the kernel to have max resolution, but I have no idea how to load it first on boot.01:11
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DaverocksCoRnJuLiOx: find the process and kill it with "kill", or type "xkill" and click on the offending window01:11
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russfnf, the compile into the kernel01:12
DreamerHxCDaverocks not wrking either01:12
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CoRnJuLiOxDaverocks; thanks01:12
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CoRnJuLiOxis there a way to manage performance related features? like in windows how theres a dialog that'll let you disable visual effects to improve performance? its kinda laggy on me01:12
fnfruss: The last time I recompiled there was no option relates to nvidia driver though. I'd find the config for initram, btw, can you tell me where it is.01:12
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russfnf, well cant you pass the kernel some options then/01:13
russfnf, video=foofb VGA=1600x120001:13
fnfruss: I did "video=nvidiafb" but to no avail. I still loaded vesafb01:13
russfnf, did you pass the VGA option01:13
fnfruss: I also use vga=792 all the time. But recompiling the kernel for my other PC with ATI card doesn't need vga option though.01:14
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fnfruss: I'll try it once again to make sure, do you have any other suggestion ?01:15
russfnf, any errors in boot log?01:15
DreamerHxCDaverocks http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33662/01:15
fnfruss: no, the thing is, kern.log did show my options parsed correctly, but vesafb still loaded.01:15
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DaverocksDreamerHxC: try oscar's suggestion, "insmod nvidia"01:16
russfnf, why not try vesafb-tng then ?01:16
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russfnf, i think that is a better option01:16
DreamerHxCoh i didn't read it01:16
DreamerHxCinsmod nvidia01:17
DreamerHxCim going01:17
russfnf, try video=vesafb-tng VGA=79201:17
fnfruss: That was good enough, but couldn't bring resolution higher than 1024x768, my monitor's max res is 1600x1200. It is slower than native driver for nvidia also.01:17
fnfruss: What is that ?01:17
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russfnf, vesafb the next generation01:17
russsupports higher resolutions01:17
Acke_ubuhey where would i fine files that configures eth0??01:18
Acke_ubufind01:18
DreamerHxCcan't read nvidia: no such file or directory01:18
b08yfnf: what about editing the monitor section in x.org.conf01:18
fnfruss: Another cool name :) thanks, I'll try that. Is there any other place I can look for ?01:18
Acke_ubuwhere would i find the eth0 config file?01:18
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russfnf, should be compiled in01:18
fnfb08y: I was refering to the console though.01:18
b08yfnf: ah, k01:18
oscarwell i think i'm going to reinstall with etch01:18
syntaxxanyone know how to adjust the size of kiba-dock?01:18
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oscarDreamerHxC, what kernel are you running?01:19
fnfruss: Ok thank you.01:19
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DreamerHxCubunut's default01:19
DreamerHxCedgy ef01:19
DreamerHxCt01:19
russfnf, make sure it is though01:19
russfnf, modprobe vesafb-tng01:19
oscarDreamerHxC, you need to install the linux-restricted modules for your kernel01:20
fnfruss: d'oh! It doesn't seem to be exist.01:20
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CoRnJuLiOxhey, is there a way to disable visual features (or any other extra features) to improve performance?01:20
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DreamerHxCok im going os39001:20
DreamerHxCoscar01:20
oscarCoRnJuLiOx, apt-get install openbox  :-)01:20
russfnf, http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/vesafb-tng/01:21
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DreamerHxCoscar it's already installed in its most recent version01:21
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oscarDreamerHxC, well you shoud have the nvicia module then01:21
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dromerdamnit, I keep getting hiliteod on DreamerHxC :P01:21
DreamerHxChow do I know if I have it?01:21
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DreamerHxC;)01:22
fnfruss: I'm taking a look at it. WRT initram config, I couldn't find it yet. Is it compressed anywhere ?01:22
oscarDreamerHxC, its should be nvidia.ko under /lib/modules/`uname -r`/........ somewhere01:22
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DreamerHxCok let me see01:23
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oscarCoRnJuLiOx, i don't know what kind of system you have, what resources are available01:23
NegativeSpaceIs there a piece of software which can write over free disk space?01:23
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DreamerHxCoscar it's not there >.<01:23
bluesignanyone know a full DVD authoring software for ubuntu, with subtitles, menus etc?01:24
fnfNegativeSpace: If you want to screw deleted data for secure, *nix natively support it.01:24
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oscarDreamerHxC, under /kernel/drivers/video/nvidia01:24
DreamerHxChold on01:24
NegativeSpacefnf: Thanks.01:24
DreamerHxCthat directory doesn't exist01:25
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oscarDreamerHxC, actuallly that's where the fb driver is.  the normal one is top level under nvidia01:25
DreamerHxC./kernel directory doesn't exist01:26
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kamohi, my hdd failed so I am trying to boot from ubuntu cd. When it reaches "starting enterprise volume management system" it starts displaying endless errorlist. How can i make the system not to start it?01:26
oscarDreamerHxC, oh wait, that in my custom kernel.  i don't know where it is for the ubuntu one.  dpkg -L  and list the files in linux-restricted modules01:26
DreamerHxCok01:26
eexp16DreamerHxC: its /lib/modules/<yourkernelversion>/kernel01:26
oscarDreamerHxC, /lib/modules/.../...01:26
dudanogueirakamo, are you using the dapper drake?01:26
kamodudanogueira, i have no idea01:27
DavieyProblem, XDMCP.   Machine A will XDMCP to localhost but not machine B.  Machine B (had two network cards) would connect to localhost via network card 2, but not card 1.  Neither will connect to each other.  Could it be a problem with XDMCP monitoring the wrong interface (but gdm autodetected a XDMCP enabled host001:27
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dudanogueirakamo, is it the version 6.06?01:27
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OldLinkhello01:27
oscarDreamerHxC, make sure the restricted modules is the one for your kernel version01:27
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DreamerHxCin /lib/modules i have two directories01:27
kamodudanogueira, i think it is the latest system01:27
OldLinkgood afternnon01:28
DreamerHxC2.6.17-10-386 and 2.6.17-10-generic01:28
DreamerHxCand there's nothing like nvidia there01:28
oscarDreamerHxC, i don't care about that.  i only care that the restricted modules version matches your running kernell's version01:28
OldLinkam desesperatly needing help for my Wacom tablet...01:28
dudanogueirakamo, when i installed the dapper drake 6.06 on my mother's computers, i had this problem. it hooked on LVM and EVMS services. had to wait for it to load and after install remove it from init scripts01:28
eexp16DreamerHxC: type uname -r to see which kernel you are running now01:28
DreamerHxCok 2.6.17-10-38601:29
oscarit could be version 5823x9efoofoofoo for all i care01:29
DreamerHxCso in that directory there's no nvidia01:29
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DuesentriebDreamerHxC: what exactly are you trying to do?01:29
DreamerHxCinitrd, kernel, madwifi, volatile01:29
oscarDreamerHxC, what version(s) of the restricted modules?01:29
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kamodudanogueira, it says: "Buffer I/O error on device dm_l, logical block 27232. The next message is about 27233 and its endless01:30
DreamerHxCtrying to boot up ubunt01:30
oscarDuesentrieb, insmod nvidia failed because no module found01:30
DreamerHxCin graphic mode01:30
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DreamerHxCbeucase im getting the same error with nvidia and ATI01:30
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kamohow can i make the boot cd not to care about my HDD?01:30
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DuesentriebDreamerHxC: i just installed the propriatary nvidia driver today, using linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-68601:30
dudanogueirakamo, unplug the HDD01:30
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defryskkamo, cat /etc/issue01:30
pitucshi everyone01:31
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DuesentriebDreamerHxC: had to manually edit xorg.conf, though01:31
OldLinkam desesperatly needing help for my Wacom tablet...01:31
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DreamerHxCi've done it thousands of times01:31
kamodudanogueira, i can't it is a laptop - i tryed i cant unplug the hdd except if i open everything01:31
oscarDuesentrieb, if the module can't be insmoded then theres a more serious problem01:31
DuesentriebOldLink: a concrete question usually helps.01:31
kamodefrysk, i can't boot man01:31
wijnandDreamerHxC: nobody cares about your sex life :P01:31
oscarDreamerHxC, please read what i asked above01:31
DreamerHxCI tried to install nvidia like this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.2901:31
dudanogueiraOldLink, as it is a specific device, try to create a post on ubuntu forums, or even search for already created posts01:31
catsyi'm using ubuntu is it better than mandriva 2007?01:31
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DreamerHxCsorry, what did u asked?01:31
DreamerHxCahd the module01:32
oscarDreamerHxC, what version(s) of the restricted modules?01:32
Duesentrieboscar: wrong version for the kernel, i guess...01:32
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OldLinkok, thanks. I have done the installation steps, and the wacdump tool finds my tablet at ttyS001:32
DreamerHxCok 2.6.17-10-38601:32
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dudanogueiracatsy, only you can answerl this question :)01:32
kamoDreamerHxC, how can i make the boot cd not to care about the hdd - if you asked me01:32
OldLinkbut when I config it into xorg.conf, it does not work01:32
Duesentriebthe one for 1.6.15 workd fine with 2.6.17 for me, btw01:32
Daverockscatsy: yeah, whichever you like better01:32
DreamerHxCi dont know01:32
Duesentrieb2.6.15 of course#01:32
DreamerHxCoscar 2.6.17-10-38601:33
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kamoDreamerHxC, ok - it seems its not possible01:33
OldLinkok duda01:33
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dudanogueiracatsy, personally, i advice the users to test all the distros, and choose the one that make you more happier and confortable01:33
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Davieyhow can i rename eth1 to eth0?01:33
Lynouredudanogueira: all? That's many!01:33
DaverocksDaviey: something with sysctl01:33
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gump99join #kubuntu01:33
dudanogueiraLynoure, haushuahsua, ok, the main distros :P01:33
DaverocksDaviey: but i don't know the details :P01:33
DavieyDaverocks, thanks01:34
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CoRnJuLiOxomg mp3s aren't playing? ubuntu doesn't ship w/the codecs?01:34
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DavieyCoRnJuLiOx, no, but they are easy to install01:34
qsrvhi01:34
dudanogueiraCoRnJuLiOx, exatcly, this is made due the patent issues01:34
dudanogueiraubotu, mp301:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:34
catsydudanogueira, well i use them both latest ubuntu not latest mandriva this cost alot of money!!01:34
DaverocksCoRnJuLiOx: they can't, patent issues01:34
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oscarDreamerHxC, odd, i can't find nvidia.ko for my ubuntu 2.6.10 kernel either, but i could insmod it01:34
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catsymandriva cost alot of money01:34
Daverockscatsy: i'm quite sure there's a free version of mandriva 200701:34
LynoureI just tell them to try something else if they do not like what they started with :)01:35
RadicalDreamerHello. I have a little problem: Ubuntu does not seem to recognize the Classpath, even if my modify of /etc/profile seems proper. What did I miss?01:35
qsrvhas anybody tried using the listen media player? It seems to have a strange bug, where it adds random tracks to the playlist, when playing. What are the alternatives? Something similar to Windows Media Player?01:35
dudanogueiracatsy, i used suse, mandrake, mandriva, fedora... had found ubuntu some time ago and am quite happier now :)01:35
oscaranyhow, i've got to do some installing.  laterz01:35
DreamerHxCso? becaue this is so weird not to show up the desktop nor with nvidia neither ati01:35
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DreamerHxCg'bye thank u01:35
catsydudanogueira, does ubuntu come with developemnt packages, c++, xorg devel.... etc?01:35
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dudanogueiracatsy, no, you have to install them.01:36
catsycause i'm on windows, dudanogueira01:36
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wijnandDreamerHxC: you have an nvidia card but the kernel module won't load?01:36
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catsydudanogueira, this is not a ripped off debian is it haha?01:37
dudanogueiracatsy, ubuntu is focused on end users, so by default, it only have packages for supply this type of users01:37
DaverocksDreamerHxC: you _have_ the kernel module, right? like, you've installed the proprietary nvidia drivers?01:37
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dudanogueiracatsy, but you can easily install other packages, that'll feet you needs01:37
wijnandDreamerHxC: i know someone with exactly the same problem... he can't figure it out either01:37
catsydudanogueira, this is not a ripped off Debian is it haha?01:38
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Daverockscatsy: he/she answered that question01:38
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DreamerHxCwijnand which graphic card does he have?01:38
catsywhere?01:38
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dudanogueiracatsy, english isnt my native language, coudnt follow the ripped off :(01:39
Daverockscatsy: <dudanogueira> catsy, ubuntu is focused on end users, so by default, it only have packages for supply this type of users01:39
Daverocksdudanogueira: i think he means, a stripped-down version, like debian with lots of stuff removed01:39
catsyif itz not debian wat core is it?01:39
Daverockscatsy: it is debian-based01:39
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dudanogueiracatsy, no no... im my opinion, ubuntu WAS debian-based, but today it has a self structure and packages and etc01:40
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eexp16dudanogueira: no. ubuntu also has all devel packages available, they are just not on the cd, but can be installed from the standard repositories on the net01:40
Daverocksok ok, i was wrong :P01:40
catsyDaverocks, tharz what im tryin to say01:40
gnomefreakdudanogueira: ubuntu is still debian based01:40
dudanogueiraeexp16, exactly what i said... it doesnt come by default, but you can install01:40
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eexp16dudanogueira: okay01:41
tim167hello, I'm looking for a CALENDAR program that can display days starting from 5 am on top, and 4 am at the bottom, any ideas ??01:41
Daverocksyay! i wasn't wrong! :P01:41
catsyi saw the video of ubuntu, was it owned by Nelson Mandela01:41
dudanogueiragnomefreak, sure, but some services are quite diferent from debian...01:41
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eexp16gnomefreak: but it's not wise to use debian repos in ubuntu and mix packages01:41
CoRnJuLiOxok, on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#oneline, i sudo apt-get install (insert that long line w/all the package names in it), but it doesn't work. it says it cant find the package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll01:41
gnomefreakdudanogueira: being based on debina doesnt mean it uses everything debian uses01:41
syntaxxany experience kiba-dock users? i cant adjust kiba-docks siize anyone who can help me?01:41
gnomefreakeexp16: the binaries are not compatable01:42
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eexp16gnomefreak: the boot process is also different01:42
gnomefreakeexp16: different versioning01:42
dudanogueiraeexp16, only if you like big adventures. it may work, or may not...01:42
kamoanybody knows a boot parameter to make "enterprise volume management" not to start?01:42
gnomefreakeexp16: only in edgy01:42
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catsyi saw the video of ubuntu, was it owned by Nelson Mandela???01:42
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catsyon Ununtu OS01:43
dudanogueirabut for sure youll brake you entire system if use debian repos on ubuntu =)01:43
gnomefreakcatsy: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic01:43
eexp16gnomefreak: okay01:43
RadicalDreamer<catsy> i saw the video of ubuntu, was it owned by Nelson Mandela??? | No, no, he was just the sponsor. :)01:43
catsythan you RadicalDreamer01:43
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catsythanK you RadicalDreamer01:43
eexp16catsy: in that video talks about the african word "ubuntu", not the distro01:43
catsysorri01:43
antoCan somone tell me how to setup  a user on proftpd?01:44
catsyubuntu is about freedom01:44
tim167I'm looking for a CALENDAR that can display days starting from 5 am on top, and 4 am at the bottom (my days tend not to end at 0:00)01:44
antowitch a password01:44
catsyrelated apartheid01:44
catsyrelated to apartheid01:44
Daverocksanto: iirc, proftpd's users are the users on your system01:44
rasputnikdudanogueira: sudo update-rc.d01:44
catsyi guess everyone had already seen Crouching tigher, Where's da dragon01:45
dudanogueirarasputnik, ??01:45
antoohh greate01:45
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antois it possible to create more users for people?01:45
rasputnikdudanogueira: sorry, that was for kamo01:45
omeganine!compiz01:45
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:45
rasputnikkamo: sudo update-rc.d01:45
dudanogueiraanto, you mean create two users on the same system?01:46
antono i mean for my ftp server01:46
catsyduring the Apartheid age01:46
catsyblack were racist01:46
catsybecause white pplz said they have black dikz01:47
dudanogueiraanto, you should set the DefaultRootDirectory for the specified user on the proftpd conf, and the user must have a valid bash and be on the system01:47
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rasputnikcatsy: oh, you're a *troll* - i was confused for a moment there01:47
eexp16catsy: go away01:47
catsylol01:48
dudanogueiracatsy, lets focus on system questions ;) if you want a politic discussion, try the forums or even the lists01:48
catsyjoking01:48
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catsyok k01:48
catsycya01:48
dudanogueirahehehe, its like to ask whats the best window manager... its a pain!01:49
catsydudanogueira, r u a customer service01:49
Daverocks!patience | catsy01:50
ubotucatsy: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:50
tonyyarussodudanogueira, catsy: Actually, politics doesn't really have a place in any Ubuntu media; perhaps #off-topic or ##politics on Freenode though.  (Unless related to software patents and the like)01:50
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Daverockscatsy: all volunteers ^_^01:50
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catsynice01:51
dudanogueiracatsy, im a proud member of the ubuntu-br team :)01:51
nanomikeGet this in mail.log: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory Trying to set up Postfix with SMTP-Auth, help?01:51
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pznI noticed that "mount -ro" modifies something in disk (metadata). what is your opinion about it? should -ro not write anything? md5sum of device changes after mounting it with -ro01:51
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gump99Hey everybody. I just noticed a bug in the Dapper release. If it is updated to Kernel 2.6.15-27 (which it seems to do automatically), the ipw3945 module for the centrino platform stops working, because /usr/sbin/ipw3945d isn't correctly renamed to ipw3945-2.6.15-27. Thus, you have to manually rename it to match the current kernel version. This should be fixed.01:52
gump99I found this bug on the database01:52
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gump99e.g. onlaunchpad.net - how do I confirm it?01:53
tonyyarussogump99: Meaning it's already registered in Launchpad?01:53
gump99yep01:53
tonyyarussogump99: Log in, add a comment saying that you can confirm the behaviour.01:53
catsyi guess everyone had already seen Crouching tigher, Where's da dragon01:53
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tonyyarussogump99: That will notify certain people of your comment, and hopefully one will change the status to confirmed, and look into it.01:53
tonyyarusso!offtopic | catsy01:53
ubotucatsy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!01:53
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gump99ok, thats good01:54
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gump99thanks for the info01:54
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CoRnJuLiOxok i'm trying to find the packages i need to install to get mp3 playback, so i added the universe & multiverse repositories, but i can't find them01:54
CoRnJuLiOxhave they changed?01:54
tonyyarussoCoRnJuLiOx: Have you updated the package cache since modifying your sources?01:55
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catsyoops wrong chan01:55
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gump99sure you whip me....01:56
catsylol01:56
catsy#ubuntu-offtopic talks about disgusting stuff01:56
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dromerdamnit, my desktop hangs :o01:56
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dromerI can still move the mouse, xmms is still playing01:57
tonyyarussoCoRnJuLiOx: So you're working in Synaptic.  How are you trying to find them, and what happens?01:57
catsythey start with butthole and then poo!!01:57
kamois there a way to choose among several kernels on boot (from the CD)01:57
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dromerbut since I opened Evolution and started reading an e-mail ... everything is dead01:57
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dromerit doesn't reacto on anything01:57
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dudanogueiradromer, it happens with me, speacially when i receive a skype message that notifies with a sound. remove the sound and everything is ok now :P01:58
dromerthi sexplains why I couldn;t get it to react when I got home .. it was also stuck ..01:58
dromerdudanogueira: I don't use skype01:58
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RadicalDreamerRepeating for newcomers: <RadicalDreamer> Hello. I have a little problem: Ubuntu does not seem to recognize the Classpath, even if my modify of /etc/profile seems proper. What did I miss?01:58
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dudanogueiradromer, my evolution also hangs too, but i have milion of mails on it01:59
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tonyyarussoCoRnJuLiOx: iirc, there are multiple sections labelled universe and multiverse, b/c of backports, security, and such.  Are you sure you got the right ones?01:59
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dromerdudanogueira: maybe it;'s because of adding my gmail account ..01:59
dromerit has lots and lots of mail (especialy junk :/) with big attachments and stuff01:59
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asfaltis the number of workspaces displayed dependable on the gnome theme? i only seem to have two in the switcher instead of 401:59
dudanogueiradromer, im using thunderbird instead of evolution. much more hard to brake :)01:59
dromerI have it so all the messages are kept on the server though01:59
dromerok02:00
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dromerdamnit, time to reset the pc I guess :/02:00
Enselic_I only have 1024x768 to choose from when I pick resolution, althogh 800x600 works when I have an external monitor. My xorg.conf file have several Modes, including 800x600, but I still cannot choose 800x600. What could be the error?02:00
dudanogueiraasfalt, on edgy, the default is 2 desks02:00
asfaltahh it is a preference, setting sorry to bother02:00
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ActivEubotu xgl irc02:00
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ActivEubotu beryl irc02:00
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ActivEubotu beryl02:00
ubotuActivE: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:00
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:00
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Enselic_ActivE: beryl is in #beryl on freenode02:01
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dromerdudanogueira: should I remove evolution and use thunderbird instead? ;)02:01
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soundrayI have a compilation that fails with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqwt". libqwt is installed and LD_LIBRARY_PATH is pointing to it. How can I fix this?02:03
dudanogueiradromer, in evolution, i only like the fact of perfectly sync with my palm, and show the data on gnome clock and others. the mail app isnt the best..02:03
dudanogueiradromer, if i could insert the thunderbird into the evolution, it should be a must... :)02:03
soundrayI'd appreciate any hint, even if it's generic.02:03
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dromerhaha02:04
yakumohi help my linux ubuntu stop booting. i cant use my ubuntu anymore02:04
dudanogueiraand the addressbook applet is a charm too02:04
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ActivEthanks Enselic_ && Daverocks02:04
yakumoany idea how to fix it02:04
dudanogueirayakumo, error messages? is a notebook?02:04
yakumonone only black screen. im using desktop.. i try to recover mode but it dit not boot also02:05
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dudanogueiraif i shutdown my laptop with the wireless off and try to power it on with the wireless on, it doesnt run :(02:05
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dudanogueirayakumo, on the black screen try switching the tty (ctrl+alt+f1, or f2, or f3...)02:06
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RadicalDreamerD'oh, my $LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't even exist! Now I understand why I can't compile anything!02:06
nanomikeIs there a way to use SMTP-AUTH with Postfix? I've followed every guide with no luck!02:06
CoRnJuLiOxok, chmod 777 /somefolder gives me read/write access to /somefolder, but how do i get the same access for all of the folders inside it?02:07
dudanogueiraand see if you can get some error messages, or even load a working text mode02:07
CoRnJuLiOxfiles too02:07
dudanogueiraCoRnJuLiOx, and -R02:07
dudanogueiraCoRnJuLiOx, chmod -R 77702:07
soundrayHow to troubleshoot a compile error? At the linking stage, it says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqwt"02:07
yakumo<dudanogueira>yes i also try it. upto f7 and only f1 dislpay mssg ok to boot kernel thats all02:07
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yakumo<dudanogueira>nothing happen02:07
rambo3!ldconf02:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ldconf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:08
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rambo3!ldconfig02:08
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soundrayrambo3: are you trying to help me?02:09
rambo3soundray, that link to some unknow lib02:09
rambo3soundray, no02:09
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catsyubotu try http://robotehumanoid.com02:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about try http://robotehumanoid.com - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:09
dudanogueirayakumo, no clue :(02:10
runpainHello God Bless all this Black Friday02:10
catsyubotu try http://yakuzcursestar.com02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about try http://yakuzcursestar.com - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
runpainLOL02:10
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soundrayyakumo: is the screen completely black, or is it still displaying something?02:10
catsyubotu try http://startrek.com02:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about try http://startrek.com - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:10
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tonyyarusso!ubotu | catsy02:10
ubotucatsy: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:10
yakumo<soundray> nothing at all...02:10
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catsylol02:11
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soundrayyakumo: what is the last thing you see before it goes black?02:11
Bercihiz02:11
catsywhat the he!!02:11
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yakumo<soundray>mounting file system02:11
runpaincan some one help me with root premissions on the ubuntu christian edition02:11
Healoti see yakumo... yum yum02:11
soundrayrunpain: use sudo02:11
maghathello everyone, greetings from Portugal (I'm new to IRC btw)02:11
yakumo<Healot> yes02:11
soundray!sudo | runpain02:11
uboturunpain: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:11
catsyubotu try http://grannies withwindpipessupergranny.com02:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about try http://grannies withwindpipessupergranny.com - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:12
kuja_Sensitive DVD burning: Nero on Windows, K3B/gnome-baker on Linux? And if Linux, K3B or gnome-baker? Which to go with?02:12
tonyyarussocatsy: Please stop using the bot to spam the channel.02:12
yakumoi can't even access bash.02:12
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Healoteither, kuja_02:12
maghatDefinitely K3B IMHO02:12
catsystop02:12
catsywas dat abot02:12
kuja_So firstly, I should ditch Nero and do my sensitive burning on Linux?02:12
apokryphos!bot | catsy02:12
ubotucatsy: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:12
RadicalDreamer"Christian Edition"? Is it for real?02:12
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yakumo<soundray>any idea :)02:12
rambo3RadicalDreamer, yes02:13
apokryphosRadicalDreamer: yup =)02:13
runpainiwant to run in root but when i sign in it says that the command is wrong the user and password do not exsist02:13
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tonyyarusso!root | runpain02:13
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uboturunpain: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:13
rambo3RadicalDreamer, it just ubuntu with bible stuff . take a look at whatwouldjesusdownload.com02:13
maghatkuja, please don't ditch nero. There are things K3B cannot do (like DVD recoding)02:13
soundrayyakumo: is "mounting filesystems" also the last thing you see when you boot recovery mode?02:13
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kuja_maghat: k3b can't do DVDs?02:13
kuja_Nero already screwed up one of my DVDs02:14
dudanogueirakuja_, gnomebaker rulez02:14
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maghatkuja: yes it does, but it doesn't recode them so you can fit a double layer original into a single layer copy02:14
kuja_Also, when burning stuff, is it generally a smart idea to close running applications and also disable any screensavers?02:14
apokryphoskuja_: of course it can do dvds, yes. It's the most comprehensive burner available for Linux at the moment02:15
yakumo<soundray>no it stop after the mssg i don't remeber the mssg;;; sori02:15
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apokryphoskuja_: depends on what type of setup you've got02:15
kuja_Honestly, I'm trying to burn a PS2 game.02:15
kuja_I have a very limited supply of DVDs, and I want to get it right.02:15
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apokryphoskuja_: then use k3b02:16
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kuja_Thanks, that's what I needed to hear.02:16
yakumo<soundray>anyway i install ubuntu on the other partition not removing the other ubuntu so i can get file bit torrent that im downloading, but i can't continue the save progress...02:16
kuja_maghat: Very useful information. I'll keep that in mind when I need to burn it that way, thanks!02:16
maghatkuja_:  on average modern pcs you can burn and do other stuff simultaneously02:16
RadicalDreamerhttp://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/christianubuntu/2006/07/about-ubuntu-christian-edition.html | Oh my Marx.02:16
yakumo<soundray>any idea how can i continue the file, beacuse its quite long to start over again02:17
soundrayyakumo: is this a fresh installation?02:17
kuja_maghat: I don't know if my Celeron/512MB RAM is a modern PC :)02:17
yakumo<soundray>yup02:17
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rstancahello, what happed to silc in gaim? is that protocol not suported anymore? apt-cache search silc didn`t helped too much...02:17
yakumo<soundray>i only need to continue what i download in my previos ubuntu02:17
Healotkuja_: it's an ancient machine02:17
maghatkuja_: you may also invest some time reading the dvdrtools manual. There are things you can do from the command line that no graphical burner application allows you to.02:18
soundrayyakumo: so your older ubuntu still boots?02:18
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yakumo<soundray>i use the bit torrent provided by ubuntu when you install02:18
kuja_maghat: Yeah I was thinking of a command-line solution as well.02:18
maghatkuja_; What's the Celeron speed?02:18
yakumo<soundray>i cant still choose my older ubuntu02:18
kuja_maghat: About 2.202:18
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kuja_Perhaps not starting X (maybe just boot into recovery mode) and burning the DVD with a command-line tool would be the safest?02:19
maghatit definitely not ancient. But you would gain a significant performance increase if you double the RAM to 1Gb.02:19
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kuja_maghat: Yeah, I only have 2 slots, and they're filled with 256's, so I'll need to buy 2 *new* 512's :(02:20
maghatkuja_: K3b uses buffer underrun protection in most DVD burners, you don't need to be so careful about DVD recording nowadays ;)02:20
kuja_I wonder if the investment into memory will be well worth it.02:20
runpaini have enabled root now when i sign on after loging out of user account and try to sign in on root account it says system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen02:20
runpainhow do i fix that02:21
kuja_Hm...02:21
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apokryphosrunpain: ......... you should not be trying to login to root02:21
apokryphosrunpain: it's disabled on Ubuntu for a good reason. See the wiki page on what to do.02:21
runpaini am root and user02:21
maghatkuja_: then you would benefit from using xubuntu instead of (k)ubuntu02:21
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apokryphosrunpain: irrelevant02:21
kuja_maghat: Can you recommend a company for RAM?02:21
runpainwhat wiki page02:21
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gdbWhat's wrong with newegg's prices?  They're nearly always the lowest you can find.02:21
kuja_gdb: I live overseas, so the shipping itself may be a killer02:22
apokryphos!root | runpain02:22
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uboturunpain: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:22
apokryphosrunpain: that one.02:22
gdbkuja_: ah, makes sense02:22
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HealotEclipse is a real eclipse for02:22
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yakumo<soundray>is it possible to continue what i downloaded on my freshly install ubuntu??? using bit torrent??02:22
kuja_gdb: Not to mention, newegg takes a horribly long time to ship overseas :)02:22
maghatKuja:_ I have used Infineon, TwinMOS, and now Kingston (ValueRam) but have also used vanilla OEM RAM chips and never had a problem so far :)02:22
runpainthis sucks atlest in Mepis i can sign in as root or user02:23
ragamuffinHello, can I extend my ubuntu partition (I am getting lowdisk message_02:23
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apokryphosrunpain: it's unsafe and you shouldn't. Read the page for all the information though. There should be no reason to ever login as root.02:23
kuja_runpain: In Ubuntu, we don't have the concept of "running as root", even though you can.02:23
wijnandragamuffin: when your harddisk is full, it's time for a new one02:23
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dudanogueirarunpain, you only sould use the root for administrative tasks. this could be acomplished with the sudo command, so it will ask the user password and bypass the root itself02:23
soundrayyakumo: I don't know, sorry.02:23
maghatrunpain:_ please, for your own safety, *don't* login as root user. There are many reasons why Ubuntu does not allow it02:23
yakumo<soundray>thnks anyway02:24
kuja_runpain: Ubuntu is more about the sudo, where you do things as root, instead of logging in and doing everything as root (logging in as root causes more problems for the newbies)02:24
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ragamuffinwijnand: I gave only 2.something gb to ubuntu. that is the problem02:24
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wijnandmaghat: i can login as root... still up and running :)02:24
wijnandragamuffin: that sure is a problem02:24
runpaini want to trasfer some wallpapers and such over to this computer02:24
apokryphoswijnand: please don't recommend it to new users.02:24
kuja_runpain: Use sudo02:24
soundrayrunpain: if you want a root-like shell, use sudo -i02:24
ragamuffinI have more than enough for win partitions. Can i get more from there?02:24
joshua__when trying to start up beryl, i get this: joshua@joshua-desktop:~$ beryl-manager02:24
joshua__joshua@joshua-desktop:~$ compiz.real: No composite extension02:24
apokryphoswijnand: and if you're a new user you shouldn't be logging in as root.02:24
kuja_runpain: If you really need to log in as root, though I highly discourage it, run `sudo -s`02:24
joshua__any ideas?02:25
maghatactually I don't like the sudo thingy, I have root enabled but I (usually) know what I'm doing :p02:25
zircxok, I'm trying to download and install the latest version of amsn from source and I'm getting this error, on ./configure : checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev. I'm a little lost on this one02:25
apokryphossudo -i is better, and for graphical applications gksu/gksudo is recommended02:25
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zircxmaybe i need to add the prefix on ./configure? but what would the prefix be?02:25
apokryphoszircx: type sudo apt-get build-dep amsn02:25
runpainbrb02:26
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zircxah02:26
dv5237_is there a option to say 'yes to all' when installing apps on the cli (sudo apt-get install <package name>'02:26
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apokryphosdv5237: yes; see man apt-get02:26
soundraydv5237_: man apt-get, look at the -y option02:26
maghator you can run "sudo passwd root" and enter a root password. Then open a terminal, login as root, as use it for administrative tasks.02:26
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kuja_maghat: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141424 -- I'm liking this =) ... Free shipping! :D02:26
nysosymh i Quinn_Storm :)))02:26
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gnomefreakmaghat: that is not recommended02:27
soundraymaghat: don't recommend this please. Much better for people to get used to the Ubuntu way ;)02:27
Quinn_Stormhi02:27
apokryphosmaghat: please don't recommend that in a channel for new users02:27
dv5237_soundray: mkay thanks ill do that02:27
maghatkuja_: it's good value, if your motherboard supposts DDR 40002:27
apokryphosmaghat: see /msg ubotu root for Ubuntu's default way of doing things02:27
kujamaghat: I'll have to check, as I'm not a big hardware guy.02:27
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kujamaghat: I'm tired of opening up my computer (and I don't have the mobo manual to check), is there any software alternative to check?02:28
gdbmaghat: How is "su -" and "sudo -i" so different as to justify setting an actual root password?02:28
zircxapokryphos, it's looking for the source package for amsn-0.96 do i actually state the .bz2 package when trying to build the source or is it from inside the actual unpacked source folder that I give that command02:28
maghatsoundray: I most definitely *DO NOT* recommend it!!02:28
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gdbmaghat: What value does "su -" add that "sudo -i" does not?02:28
apokryphoszircx: check the faq on notes for compiling02:28
soundraymaghat: your hint was not appropriately accompanied by a warning.02:28
Quinn_Stormsudo su - can work02:28
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dv_Quinn_Storm, how about sudo -i :)02:29
apokryphosgdb: the main reason we recommend sudo -i instead of su - is for good practice. It's conflicting advise telling the new user to use sudo when if we were to say "use su -" for a jailed root session02:29
gnomefreakhow about applications>systemtools>root terminal02:29
apokryphosso please recommend sudo -i instead of su - :)02:29
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gnomefreak:)02:29
Quinn_Stormdv_: I just got used to sudo su - instead of su -02:29
apokryphosthis comes up quite often :)02:29
Quinn_Stormerr instead of sudo -i02:29
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maghatgdb: not having to type "sudo" in the first place :)02:29
gdbapokryphos: I'm not advocating setting a root password and I've never recommended that one do so.  I'm asking maghat what value feels "su -" provides that "sudu -i" does not.02:30
gdber what value he feels02:30
apokryphosgdb: ok, I see. Cool :)02:30
maghatgdb: you are right, it is mostly an old slackware/redhat habit ;)02:31
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zircxdamn this is somewhat a mission02:32
gdbNo worries, I was just curious.  I started on Slackware many years ago, used Red Hat for years, and I've only been using Ubuntu since 2 weeks before Dapper release.  I use sudo -i for no reason other than it works.02:32
maghatgdb: and my laptop always sits behind a wireless router with builtin firewall (Dlink, very nice)02:32
zircxI installed the tk-dev file now it's asking for libpng..02:32
apokryphoszircx: indeed; that's why it's best to stick with the amsn packages from Ubuntu02:32
zircxthey aren't up to date though02:33
apokryphoszircx: did the build-dep command I gave you not pull those in?02:33
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zircxno02:33
zircxit wouldn't execute02:33
zircxE: Unable to find a source package for amsn02:33
RadicalDreamerGrrr. Any new variable I try adding to /etc/profile just doesn't work. Any ideas?02:33
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NangisanHey everyone02:34
Quinn_StormRadicalDreamer: how are you testing, and are you exporting?02:34
soundrayRadicalDreamer: you need to 'source /etc/profile' after any change you make02:34
maghatkuja: do you know your motherboard maker/model ?02:34
apokryphoszircx: ok, you need to uncomment the deb-src lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
Quinn_Stormremember /etc/profile isn't sourced by default in x terminal emulators, they don't use a "login shell"02:34
syntaxxhow can i view gnome menu?02:34
apokryphoszircx: you should always tell someone if the command they gave you gives an error :)02:34
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ubuntuhello everyone!02:35
apokryphoshi02:35
zircxapokryphos, I said something about it, but I probably wasn't specific about it02:35
kujamaghat: Yep, I'll check it on newegg02:35
Nangisanhi there!02:35
apokryphoszircx: then you couldn't have highlighted me :P02:35
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NangisanAnyone here do any web page design? I've kind of run into a snag..02:35
ubuntuCould you help me in fresh edgy-install problem?02:35
zircxprobably not... but at least we're getting closer, appreciate the help02:36
monokromeNangisan: What's wrong?02:36
apokryphos!helpme02:36
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:36
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ubuntuI've just installed edgy, from desktop cd02:36
DreamerHxCplease I need help, I can't boot after login in graphic mode, not with ati nor with nvidia, im getting the same error. Help please!02:36
apokryphosM3t4ll1k0: no automatic away/back messages please :)02:36
Nangisanmonokrome, it's actually just a stupid problem. I've been working with HTML and whatnot but it's to do with images02:36
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ubuntugrub not loading..02:36
M3t4ll1k0apokryphos, ok sorry02:36
apokryphosDreamerHxC: let us know the error02:36
monokromeNangisan: Out with it, already :P02:36
maghatkuja: even if it doesn't support DDR400, if the memory modules are the same kind (physically) the kingston memory will still work, only slower02:37
zircxI don't have these build issues with slackware02:37
ubuntuI've 2 sata winchester02:37
Nangisanmonokrome, It's creating an image that will let the background show through it. like transparency. I thought it would be simple enough, but i cant fiure it out02:37
monokromeYou using CSS?02:37
ubuntuwinxp is on sda102:37
apokryphoszircx: Debian-based systems have one of the very best ways for solving build dependencies, trust me :)02:37
Nangisanmonokrome, I've tried GIMP, photoshop, fireworks..02:37
ubuntuedgy is on sdb202:37
apokryphoszircx: uncomment the deb-src lines in that file and then sudo apt-get update, and re-run the build-dep command02:37
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ubuntusdb1 is ntfs partition02:38
monokrome<img src="image.jpg" style="opacity: 0.8" />02:38
DreamerHxCapokryphos simply nothing, the screen gets freezed just after logging and just before showing up the screen "loading nautilus, etc" and I can't see the desktop02:38
monokrome1 is fully opaque, 0 is invisible.02:38
apokryphosDreamerHxC: does it go to a terminal session if you type ctrl+alt+f102:38
ubuntuIt would also help, just to be able to boot windows..02:38
kujamaghat: Yep it uses DDR 400, awesome02:38
DreamerHxCyes02:38
kujaNow I just need to get paid :)02:38
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DreamerHxCi can do it or ctrl + alt +f102:38
zircxapokryphos, I'm still finding out about debian package handling, obviously lol..02:38
monokromekuja: You ever idle in a channel called wavelength?02:39
RadicalDreamersoundray: I tried, but it says "bash: CLASSPATH: command not found".02:39
in4mersup02:39
apokryphosDreamerHxC: ok, try killing gdm now with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and then hit 'startx'02:39
apokryphosDreamerHxC: as user02:39
DreamerHxCi tried to dpkhg-reconfigure, I tried to edit xorg.conf, etc02:39
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Nangisanmonokrome, that little tag in the html will make the image transparent?02:39
DreamerHxCok02:39
kujamonokrome: Nope02:39
zircxwell what the  hell do you know..02:39
maghatkuja: great!02:39
monokromeNangisan: Yeah, it will.02:39
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zircxthat was far too easy..02:39
apokryphos=)02:39
ubuntupls anyone..02:39
kujamaghat: Yep, I really appreciate the help. Thanks again :)02:39
Nangisanmonokrome, does the image have to be saved as a gif first, or can JPEG's be used as well02:39
maghatNangisan: probably not. Read this: http://digg.com/design/CSS_Image_Transparency_for_IE,_Mozilla_and_Safari02:39
monokromeNangisan: 0.8 will make it 80% visible02:39
monokromeNangisan: Anything can be used. You can even do it to DIV tags.02:40
RadicalDreamerQuinn_Storm: Here's the text. Seems proper to me. PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin02:40
RadicalDreamerJAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun02:40
RadicalDreamerCLASSPATH =/www.web3d.org/x3d/content02:40
RadicalDreamerLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib02:40
RadicalDreamerexport PATH JAVA_HOME CLASSPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH02:40
zircxgreat stuff apokryphos thanks very much for your help..02:40
apokryphosubuntu: what's the problem? Not a good idea to use enter as punctuation in a huge channel like this :)02:40
in4merinvestigating02:40
apokryphosRadiantFire: no pasting in here please02:40
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apokryphosubotu: msg | ubuntu02:40
ubotuubuntu: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.02:40
Nangisanmaghat, thanks for the great link.02:40
maghatkuja: ur welcome and good luck :)02:41
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ubuntuIok02:41
Quinn_StormRadicalDreamer: does look good, not sure what to say there02:41
ubuntuso there are 2 SATAs02:41
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ubuntuedgy is on sdb202:41
DreamerHxCapokryphos no error, just the desktop is a grey squared screen02:42
ubuntuso02:42
maghatNangisan: I never tried this, but I guess it can be done. You should probably test it with IE 7 though, I've had some problems recently concerning the new IE version and CSS02:42
DreamerHxCand the mouse cursor is a cross02:42
apokryphosDreamerHxC: what card do you  have?02:42
runpainthanks i figured it out02:42
azcazandcoanyone fancy helping me get ati drivers & xgl / beryl installed properly?  I just installed a fresh copy of Edgy and want to make sure I get it right02:42
kujamaghat: I wouldn't be a sucker if I went with the cheapest memory, right? :P02:42
ubuntuI wrote it once!02:42
DreamerHxCnvidia geforce fx520002:42
apokryphosDreamerHxC: and what version of ubuntu?02:42
DreamerHxCbut i tried with ati radeon 9550 and i got the same02:42
soundrayRadicalDreamer: you mustn't paste here. Get rid of the space after CLASSPATH02:42
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runpainhad to check box in logon to enable admin log in02:43
apokryphosDreamerHxC: ok, with the nvidia card -- try installing the nvidia drivers (/msg ubotu nvidia) and try startx again02:43
runpainDAAAAAAAH02:43
azcazandco!ati02:43
DreamerHxCapokryphos it has appeared a grey square in the top left corner of the screen, but I still can't do nothing02:43
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:43
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urmomi need some help02:43
DreamerHxCapokryphos I already tried02:43
azcazandco!xgl02:43
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:43
apokryphosrunpain: it's not a good idea to ignore half of the advice in the channel :)02:43
urmomi have an ibook g4 running ubuntu, how can i get java?02:43
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apokryphosDreamerHxC: startx gives you the exact same thing, are you sure?02:44
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azcazandcome just figured out how to help himself lol02:44
runpainlisten all i am using it for is my Bible programs02:44
apokryphosDreamerHxC: also, what about the other details?02:44
ubuntuhow can I start grub?02:44
salHeya02:44
ubuntuit not loading02:44
DreamerHxCapokryphos what details?02:44
urmomcan someone help me?02:44
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ubuntuso I need to use desktop CD02:44
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apokryphosDreamerHxC: and what version of ubuntu?02:45
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RadicalDreamersoundray: It really worked! I am so stupid!02:45
DreamerHxCI have an mobo with nforce2, by the way Im in text mode, I can't boot in graphic.02:45
DreamerHxCedgy eft02:45
mamzers555the latest wpasupplicant update breaks network-manager-gnome, where should i post this?02:45
DreamerHxCby the way, sometimes it has booted correctly in graphic but when I reboot...I get the same02:45
wijnand"text mode"02:45
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maghatkuja: I'd go for the cheapest memory. That's why Im using Kingston on my main rig, because it was the same price as the no branded memory.02:45
RadicalDreamerThank you, boys!02:46
kujamaghat: And it's been working great?02:46
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maghatkuja: memory doesn't work "great", either it does or it doesn't work at all ;)02:46
kujamaghat: Good point02:47
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salIs there someone who could help me with an, albeit probably stupid question? I just installed Ubuntu yesterday and fixed my video card issues and all that, but there's one thing that aught to be simple that I can't figure out, how do I access my hard drives, I mean, besides the "filesystem"? Cause I have other partitions on this drive (not an winxp drive, but it is NTSF) and it has all my music and videos on it, but I can't figure out to access it,02:47
sallol02:47
ubuntuhow to uninstall not working edgy?02:47
kujamaghat: I was thinking maybe one would have a shorter lifetime02:47
runpainim using windows whilest i am Xchat :P02:47
DreamerHxCapokryphos any idea?02:47
TLEAti binary drivers. Some guides tell me that if I have trouble geting the binary drivers to work properly I should disable dri in xorg.conf. But does that mean that I should remove it in the modules section or that I should remove the section called DRI or both ?02:47
azcazandcowould I be right in saying I dont need to install ati drivers with edgy?02:47
apokryphosDreamerHxC: ok, did you upgrade?02:47
ubuntusal: mount --help02:48
apokryphosazcazandco: for what? Just running it? Yup.02:48
DreamerHxCno, fresh installatio02:48
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TLEsal: have you checked if they are already mounted in the /media or /mnt folders ?02:48
DreamerHxCI had to do it with alternate CD because i can't see live cd desktop neither02:48
azcazandcoapokryphos: I wanna get compiz / beryl type stuff running02:48
apokryphosDreamerHxC: ok, curious. Could you startx with the nvidia drivers, then ctrl+alt+backspace when things muck up, and pastebin me the output02:48
salThere's a floppy drive and cd in my media folder02:48
azcazandcoI am running at high 1600 x 1200 just now so I am assuming my card is okay02:48
apokryphosubotu: beryl | azcazandco02:48
ubotuazcazandco: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl02:48
saland my mnt folder is empty02:49
maghatkuja: it can have a short lifetime, even if it's branded. The greatest hazard is cosmic radiation from the Sun hitting your memory chip. Really.02:49
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kujamaghat: My room has no windows (pun intended), and I'm proud :)02:49
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azcazandcoapokryphos: so I just need to that part and not install ati drivers?02:49
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apokryphosazcazandco: and get help in -xgl, yes :)02:49
azcazandcook02:49
DreamerHxCapokryphos coultd not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/TTf02:50
kujamaghat: Hey, sorry to bug ya with a lot of hardware questions in an Ubuntu channel, but I'm reading a site that says my motherboard is compatible with P4 and Celeron processors. Does that mean any Pentium 4 is supported?02:50
apokryphosDreamerHxC: I'm sure there's more than that. Could you pastebin it all?02:50
soundraysal: what filesystems do you have on your data partitions?02:50
maghatkuja: beware, cosmic radiation can travel through earth itself like a knife through hot butter. It basically goes through anything ;)02:50
TLEsal: ok then they need to mounted, (they will be readonly though) 2 sek I'll find the info for you02:50
DreamerHxCCan I paste you last lines?02:50
DreamerHxCbecause im writing this in my laptop and we're trying to fix my computer, not the laptop02:51
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salThe filesystem is NTSF02:51
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urmomhow can i get compiz to work?02:51
apokryphosDreamerHxC: ok, but make sure you note any part that says Error or E. Paste in #flood02:51
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urmomit worked with fedora :(02:51
Healot!compiz02:51
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems02:51
salI take it I can't use them properly to manage my music database then? If it read only02:51
Healotyour mom, urmom?02:51
apokryphosDreamerHxC: really sorry but I have to shoot to a lecture now, I'm already quite late :P. If no-one else can help in the meantime, I'll try to help when I'm back02:52
MorrisseyHi, when show my fglrxinfo, it shows. "OpenGL version string: 1.3.1091 (X4.3.0-8.28.8)", usually people  have version 2.00 ... glxgears work great, but since beryl etc doesnt work I recon I dont have the proper composite ... has that anything to do with this? In advance, thank you02:52
TLEsal: please write my name if you wirte massages for me, otherwise I wont notice them02:52
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maghatkuja: not likely. There are two "formats" of Celeron/P4 CPUs. Yours is probably compatible with the P4 CPUs that have the same format that your Celeron does. Check the motherboard manufacturer site, it must list the CPUs your motherboard supports.02:53
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nemeza1984Hi!02:53
kujamaghat: Great, I will, thanks02:53
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saltle: sorry02:53
runpainwhy cant i add a picture to background folder from my external harddrive to my laptop02:53
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nemeza1984I cant start my fresh ubuntu installation, couse GRUB not loading. Stops at Loading Stage 1.5...02:54
nemeza1984pls help02:54
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maghatkuja: btw, linux in general is not too CPU hungry, it benefits more from a lot of RAM and fast hard drives...02:54
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soundray!fuse | sal02:55
ubotusal: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse02:55
kujaI was thinking more in the direction of games as well, but I imagine thats more graphics than CPU intense02:55
nemeza1984intel based processor (3GHz) , 2GB RAM02:55
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salubotu: If it's unsafe I don't think i"ll risk it, I have a lot of stuff on there, but thanks!02:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about If it's unsafe I don't think i"ll risk it, I have a lot of stuff on there, but thanks! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:56
DreamerHxCapokryphos look at #flood02:56
nemeza1984two hdds: 80 GB sata's02:56
maghatsal: writing to ntfs is discouraged beyond Windows 200002:56
maghatkuja: gaming on Linux in almost a non-issue ;)02:57
kujamaghat: Well, on Windows :)02:57
nemeza1984there is winxp on sda1, and ntfs on sdb1, ext3 on sdb2 and swap is sdb502:57
maghatkuja: aaah, ok :)02:57
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TLEmaghat: Isn't there a GUI tool to add partitione to be automatically mounted ?02:57
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kujamaghat: *BUT*, for now, the only game I really play, Counter-Strike, runs flawlessly with my current specs (and my GeForce, 128MB)02:57
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salThen another question, once I figure out how to access my NTSF volume at all where should I copy my music collection? lol you can't make new folders in the file system can you? right mouse> new folder doesn't exist lol02:58
swanflin regards to fuse, is it unsafe to the linux partition or the windows partition?02:58
whymehi all, can anyone help me with some partition recovery?02:58
bjorn_I'm trying to install the new amsn version from the source, but i get this error (any easy fix?) : checking tcl build dir... configure: error: Unable to find Tcl directory or Tcl package is not tcl-dev02:58
maghatTLE: honestly I'm not aware of one. God knows I could use one ;)02:58
runpainfigured that out too02:58
whymeI got an ext3 partition with a seemingly dead table...02:58
runpainit gets easyer02:58
nemeza1984so can anyone help me in get starting grub?02:59
maghatkuja: yes CS is quite old technology :p02:59
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maghatwhyme: hows that?02:59
maghatnemeza1984: do you have windows installed too?03:00
TLEsal: check out this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions ask if there is anything you don't understand, before you start messing with it03:00
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nemeza1984maghat: yes, I have03:00
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Hancrimsun, cheers, it works. :-)03:01
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whymemaghat, 1 disabled concerned hdd in bios, 2. reinstalled windows, 3. used the edgy CD to reinstall grub, 4. boot into linux, error on fsck hdd1 not recognised. windows sees the drive and claims it not formatted, as does gparted03:01
nemeza1984maghat: sda1 windows system, sdb1 windows partition, sdb2 edgy03:01
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nanomikeSetting up SASL with postfix is it really possible? I can't do it!03:01
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TLEDoes anybody have any input for my DRI/ATI question ?03:02
bailuxhi people03:02
nemeza1984maghat: at installation sda was hd(0,0) grub is here, sdb2 was hd(1,1) edgy is here (on SATA drives)03:03
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bailuxI have skype sound problem like tuis: regis@UBUNTU:~$ skype03:03
bailuxALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave03:03
bailuxALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:819:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave03:03
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maghatnemeza1984: I have had such problems because of a buggy partition table. Get a copy of Partition Magic or Partition Commander , erase and create your linux partitions and try reinstalling again...03:03
bailuxsame help03:03
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nemeza1984maghat: but I can't even start windows, becouse of that!03:04
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ZnortflGood day. I just rebooted and all my sound has vanished. My headphones don't output any, nor do my boxes. I can't get sound with XMMS nor with totem. Also switching the sound output plugin (ALSA/OSS/Esound/Arts) doesn't seem to work. Anybody got an idea?03:04
maghatwhyme: why did you disable the hdd?03:04
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nemeza1984maghat: May I use gparted from desktop CD?03:05
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etesthi03:05
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Healotnemeza1984: yes, you shall use it03:05
whymemaghat, because ubuntu likes installing grub to the mbr of the first ide disk, but I want it installed from sata instead.03:05
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whyme*to sata03:06
nemeza1984maghat:  How may I erase grub, to boot windows?03:06
etesthi everybody can u help me to find the channel of the Ubuntu amharic Tranlation group ???03:06
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nemeza1984or just reinstall it03:06
nemeza1984?03:06
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nanomikenemeza1984, You can boot with Windows XP CD and Chose R and run repair console. In console run fixmbr03:07
swanfletest, try doing a channel list03:07
rambo3whats wrong with grub03:07
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sod75grub can boot windows too03:08
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LammiePieHi, having trouble setting up identd or any ident. Can anyone help me?03:08
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jgomo3Greetings net [<method>]  user ADD <name> [-c container]  [-F user flags]  [misc. options]  [targets]  create the user but disabled... How can i add users with the net command enabeled by default? or how can i enable users without the smbpasswd -e command?03:08
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nemeza1984grub not loading03:08
unfunHow do I install wine?03:08
jgomo3i'm on samba03:08
nanomikenemeza1984, There are other commands in Windows XP repair console that are useful. Like bootcfg chkdsk, fixboot03:08
nemeza1984stops at loading stage 1.5...03:08
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KnowledgEngihello03:09
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sod75unfun: just as any other package, then run winecfg03:09
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KnowledgEngi!midi03:09
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo03:09
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sod75unfun: then run your windows prog like "wine prog.exe"03:09
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CoRnJuLiOxok, im having some terminal issues. i'm trying to change to this directory named 'Jr's', and every time i type cd Jr's it just drops me at a > prompt03:10
Bilangeissue reguarding wireless installation: my system doesnt seem to see my broadcom 4318 under ndiswrapper. Even if ndiswrapper adds a "wlan0" alias in modprobe, i cant find it under ifconfig or iwconfig. Whats wrong?03:10
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nemeza1984so I erase edgy partitions, and create new manualy, than reinstall edgy..03:11
CoRnJuLiOxanyone know what i should do?03:11
salTLE: Did you get my private messages?03:11
unfunsod im doing something wrong and i dont know what03:11
jgomo3CoRnJuLiOx: append a backslask to the '03:11
CoRnJuLiOxok03:11
nemeza1984if not working: winxp cd : fixmbr03:11
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ragamuffinHello, does Ubuntu take two gb disk space? or is it some earlier files of failed installation the cause of low diiskspace?03:11
nemeza1984thanks maghat, nanomike !03:11
nanomikenemeza1984, Np03:11
TLEsal: nope03:12
sod75unfun: to install wine itself or run a prog whith it ?03:12
nemeza1984I'll tell, what's happened..03:12
unfunrun a prog with it03:12
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unfunfor example  wine /home/amir/Desktop/Continuum-wine/Continuum/Continuum.exe03:12
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TLEsal: I've just tried to start a PM session03:12
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nemeza1984on other system have trouble with edgy & X & nvidia TNT2 Riva03:13
nemeza1984later..03:13
nemeza1984bye03:13
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nqhi, I scaned my ubuntu box,  and found port  *4000 remoteanything* is open,03:13
unfunsod75: Is itpossible I got an old wine? if so where do I find a new one?03:14
sod75unfun , that should work if wine is configured (wincfg) but not all programs can be run under wine...03:14
nqwill this be a potential security threat?03:14
nqshould I close that port?03:14
sod75unfun: their is a repositoty for the latest wine on their website03:14
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unfunsod75: the program should work because alot of people play the game thorugh wine03:15
jgomo3On samba 3 the net [<method>]  user ADD <name> [-c container]  [-F user flags]  [misc. options]  [targets]  create the user but disabled... How can i add users with the net command enabeled by default? or how can i enable users without the smbpasswd -e command?03:15
unfun!wine03:15
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.03:15
salTLE: did you get my pm now?03:15
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sod75unfun : deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/03:15
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deusjevoo!seen janchi03:16
sod75unfun : try setting different windows versions, etc03:16
ubotuI last saw Janchi (i=hidden-u@a80-127-157-130.adsl.xs4all.nl) 1d 2h 11m 33s ago, quiting: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)03:16
unfunsod75 is the version for dapper ?03:16
sod75generally win 98 seems fine03:16
TLEsal: nope did you get mine ? We must be the worst IRC'ers ever *G*03:16
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sod75unfun : that's directly form wine, but I've used it on dapper yes03:17
ZnortflGood day. I just rebooted and all my sound has vanished. My headphones don't output any, nor do my boxes. I can't get sound with XMMS nor with totem. Also switching the sound output plugin (ALSA/OSS/Esound/Arts) doesn't seem to work. Anybody got an idea?03:18
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eexp16TLE: on freenode you cannot /msg someone without being registered03:18
eilkerwhen i am in grub> console, do we have chance to view directories ?03:18
unfunsod75: when I try 98 I get ftal error something03:18
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salTLE: I did get yours actually lol... Maybe xchat is messing up... anyway, my question was, in the beginning of the tutorial it actually says the problem newbies have is that the drives show up in the places>computer screen but when you try to access it it gives you an error because it doesn't by default use admin privileges, right? only for me on places> computer it doesn't show any of my drives at all, only floppy 1, floppy drive, cd drive, and03:19
sal filesystem, is that normal?03:19
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sod75unfun: not everything will work under wine03:19
the_mughow can I upgrade from dapper to edgy... apt-get dist-upgrade ?03:20
iturkhi there how can i give system privilege to a user that already exists and that has not created with the adduser --system option ??03:20
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unfunokaj03:20
unfunsod75: thank you03:20
whymeI take it no-one can help me with my partition death problem?03:20
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eilker!grub03:21
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:21
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sod75unfun :check  winhq.org, they have a list of apps03:21
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TLEsal: yes it is, you know what I would like to help, but I don't have the time right now. Could you pm me in the ubuntuforums.org and we can take from there ?03:22
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maghatwhyme.. we had a power outage (heavy thundestorm)... Grub is likely trying to boot a partition off the wrong disk03:22
codeRatHi, I need some help with ffmpeg - I would like to record my scrren but don't know what to put for my video grab device. Any suggestions?03:23
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salTLE: Ok, I'll see if I can figure it out by googling around a bit and not mess up my system, and if I can't I'll PM you ok? =) Thanks a bunch for everything you did already!03:23
iturkcodeRat: are you just doing screeshots ?03:23
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maghatwhyme: disabling a hdd *after* installing linux is a bad idea, especially it it's not the first hdd03:23
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codeRatiturk: I would like to record a video03:23
TLEsal: ok, you're welcome03:24
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iturkcodeRat: can you be more specific ?03:24
salbye tle =)03:24
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ragamuffinmaghat:  Does Ubuntu take two gb disk space? or is it some earlier files of failed installation the cause of low diiskspace? I gave only 2 and a bit more  gb to ubuntu03:24
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the_mugso if I want to upgrade from dapper to edgy I have to add the edgy sources to my sources.lst and  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ??03:25
the_mugis that all?03:25
finalbeta!upgrade03:25
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes03:25
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seraphimragamuffin: 2gb is the absolute minimum for a fresh install...03:25
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seraphimragamuffin: i think even 2.503:25
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Morrisseyhe following packages have unmet dependencies:  compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed03:26
ragamuffinseraphim: So the only way is to repartition and fresh install?03:26
seraphimragamuffin: my sys needs 4.703:26
codeRatiturk: hmm, I would like to make a video of my desktop (ex. a video tutorial how to install something). So than "you" could watch the video as if you were looking at my comp03:26
seraphimragamuffin: yep03:26
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iturkthe_mug: i recomend you to use dselect it will be more user friendly looks that the normal comands are sometimes difficult to remember03:26
maghatragamuffin: I have just installed edgy and security updates, and it occupies exactly 2GB.  Add 1GB to be comfortable.03:26
iturkcodeRat: ok so you are using ffmpg for that ??03:27
rascharles Hi, I upgraded from breezy to edgy and now sudo is not working when I access items on the admin menu03:27
codeRatiturk: yes03:27
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maghatragamuffin: If you use the AMD64 bit version of ubuntu, it likely needs even more.03:27
frogzoothe_mug: I think for edgy just updating source is pretty much g'teed not to work03:27
ragamuffinmaghat: now I see my mistake03:27
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ragamuffinI wil do a fresh instal03:28
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ragamuffinseraphim: I have also a problem with editng the grub. the instruction in the documention is cryptic to my eyes.03:28
iturkcodeRat: well i only knoe ffmpg from mplayer codecs are you using some other specific application ??03:28
rascharlesI'm not using ubuntu right now, but win2k3....I can't make my wireless card work w/o sudo working properly03:28
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vedos_what's a good video playing program for Ubuntu which supports subtitles etc?03:28
codeRatiturk: no..it could be done with ffmpeg03:28
vedos_if it's mplayer why isn't it included in repositories?03:28
codeRatfrom the terminal03:28
seraphimragamuffin: with a fresh install there should be no need to edit grub...03:28
frogzoovedos_: gxine/vlc03:28
maghatragamuffin: we all make them ;)03:29
eladzhi, can someone guide me howto install skype (or something) here?03:29
eexp16vedos_: it is. enable universe and multiverse repos.03:29
rascharlesI get error about not having permissions to open/edit config files03:29
ragamuffinseraphim: I will need it any way, since I want to make XP default os03:29
rascharlesAnyone encountered or fixed this?03:29
codeRatffmpeg is included in the repositories, but I don't know what to put for grab video device so it would grap the video from the screen03:29
frogzooeladz: ekiga ?03:29
eladzsorry i didn't understand03:29
eexp16vedos_: at least dapper has it. not sure about edgy.03:29
eladzim a newbie03:30
maghateladz: google for automatix2 . It also allows you to install skype (plus a lot of other stuff).03:30
seraphimragamuffin: then just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the value of "default"03:30
LjL!automatix | maghat, eladz03:30
ubotumaghat, eladz: automatix is is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Since it is often hard to track and solve problems caused by Automatix, you might find it easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe03:30
ragamuffinseraphim:  I can't translate " default X_sequence" (in place of default   0).03:30
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maghatubotu: automatix sometimes fails, but it never breaked my system.03:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatix sometimes fails, but it never breaked my system. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:31
ragamuffinHave I to change defaul 0 to default 1 only?03:31
eexp16maghat: ubotu is a bot03:31
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LjL!works for me | maghat03:31
ubotumaghat: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:31
eladzok i just want to know how do i install things here03:31
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MsClockyps!03:31
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ragamuffinseraphim: only one line to be changed?03:32
rascharlesAnyone else having problems with sudo after upgrading to edgy?03:32
seraphimragamuffin: it should be default 2 i think...just count the entrys below, starting from 0 (0=normal, 1=save ubuntu, 2=win)03:32
eladzhi my connection disconnected03:32
seraphimif you have more kernels installed it will be 4 or 6 and so on03:32
eladzcan any guide me how to install skype or something else?03:33
vedos_how about can someone recommend me a good audioplayer program for Linux?03:33
seraphimrascharles: you should have upgraded to dapper before you upgraded to edgy...03:33
tbaurout of interest03:33
rascharlesSorry, got names wrong...I was running dapper03:33
eladzi just want to learn how to install things here03:33
rascharles6.01 right?03:33
seraphimvedos_: amarok03:33
maghatubotu, eladz: I can *suggest* automatix, only based on my experience. eladz is free to try it, at his own risk. If it works for him then great.03:34
rascharlesand edgy is 6.10 correct?03:34
seraphimrascharles: yes.03:34
seraphimso...no idea, here it was fine :/03:34
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rascharlesseraphim: thanks anyway03:34
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LjLmaghat: actually, i have to tell you that you really should *not* recommend automatix in here... i'm sorry, but there's been too many automatix-broken systems to deal with03:34
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eexp16eladz: for installing software use synaptic. should be in your desktop menu.03:35
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maghatbtw, based on my experience, upgrading your OS is generally a bad idea, be it Windows or Linux. Take the time to save your personal data, then do a fresh install. Just my opinion, of course.03:35
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maghatLjL, I didn't know that.03:36
rascharlesmaghat: that has been one of the beauties of using Debian and Debian based distros for me...normally painless dist-upgrades03:36
eladzeexp16 thx i ll try it03:36
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Duesentriebhi all03:37
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Duesentriebcan anyone tell me how the modprobe.d config works?03:37
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Duesentriebi'm trying to fix sound on my box, and got instructions what to ad to modprobe.conf03:37
Duesentriebbut that does not exist under ubuntu03:37
seraphimrascharles: you could boot into save mode and have a look at /etc/sudoers and search the line %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL03:38
Duesentriebi'm at a loss as to where to add module options for the sound driver...03:38
Duesentriebmodprobe.d/options, perhaps? but how?03:38
eexp16Duesentrieb: there is a manpage for modprobe.d03:38
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maghatrascharles: I have upgraded to Edgy beta from dapper that way, and it worked great. Still, I didn't feel comfortable enough, and reinstalled just a couple of hours ago ;)03:38
eladzhow do i add more packages to there?03:38
kenNamaste, I have got some basic Ubuntu questions, may i ask?03:38
Duesentriebeeboy: heh - tnx, should have checked that :P03:38
eladzskype doesn't appear there03:38
rascharlesseraphim: my userid is part of the admin group in /etc/groups and I looked at the admin line in sudoers03:39
seraphimmaghat: this sys here was a breezy once ;)03:39
eexp16eladz: sure. skype is unfree software. try ekiga instead.03:39
maghatseraphim: no reinstalls ??? :|03:39
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seraphimrascharles: mh, well, then i got absolutely no idea and would recommend a fresh install03:39
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rascharlesmaghat: guess I'll save my $HOME and reinstall03:40
kenCan someone please help me with basic Ubuntu questions, i installed it and can't boot it, May i ask the detailed question (if someone is interested than only i should go through the effort)03:40
seraphimmaghat: no, was no need for ;)03:40
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eladz it doesn't appear there either03:40
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bliszhello03:40
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maghatrascharles: I would try that too03:40
robbbhi, i've downloaded the ubuntu server cd to do a rescue on my linux system but it doesnt appear to have any bootloader tools on it, nor does it have ssh or ftp, is there any other way i may be able to use it to fix my system?03:40
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eexp16eladz: did you enable all repositories? (universe, multiverse)03:40
kenNo-one?03:40
eladzi think not, how do i do that?03:41
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eexp16!repositories03:41
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource03:41
maghatken: dont ask to ask a question, just ask the question ;)03:41
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eexp16eladz: read ubotu said03:42
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lucien!EasySource03:43
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:43
luciennice :-)03:43
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eladzits very complicated, ill try anyway03:45
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maghateladz: try this link : http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb03:45
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maghateladz: I just installed skype. It seems to work too ;)03:46
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eladzhow do you install the deb file?03:46
eexp16maghat: eladz has to learn about repositories anyway03:46
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maghatso, skype debian package works on Edgy without any dependencies. Sweet.03:46
maghatopen it with firefox's default option03:47
eexp16eladz: you can install a .deb file with: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:47
eladzk sec03:47
maghateexp16 there's a gui tool for that now ;)03:47
RarjHow can I edit the Gnome Menu ?03:47
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Kane274hey all, i have a question about mounting a hd on my server. its plugged in and i know i can enter the info in the fstab. but how can i check if it is even connected ? or what the name of it is ? (i see it in the bios)03:48
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rascharlesbye all and thanks03:48
Kane274bye03:48
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eladzstatus database area is locked by another process03:48
eexp16maghat: guis for every little sh*t actually make things more complicated03:48
maghateexp16: eladz has a problem. I'd rather give him a straight answer ;)03:49
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Vegeta^When I play a video file, there is no sound. It's not because of lack of codec, since I had sound before. And I can hear system notification sounds. How can I fix this?03:49
eexp16eladz: exit synaptic first03:49
tonyyarussoeladz: Clost synaptic03:49
maghateladz, check if you don't have an open synaptic window03:49
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maghateexp16: lol :)03:49
eexp16maghat: a dpkg commandline IS a straight answer03:49
RarjHow can I edit the headings of the Gnome menu ?03:49
eladz skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:03:50
eladz  Package libqt3-mt is not installed.03:50
eladz  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.03:50
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incorrecti used to be able to use rdesktop to cut and paste between my location machine and the remote03:50
maghateexp16: yes, i agree, but learning about repositories isn't. BTW the new synaptic version hides repository info as much as it can03:50
eexp16maghat: so no dependencies, eh?03:50
incorrectwhy would it not work anymore?03:50
eexp16maghat: thats why i stick to dapper03:50
eladzhow can i fix these errors>03:51
maghateexp16: no dependencies on a fresh install of EDGY03:51
Kane274so does anyone know how to add that hd :) ?03:51
eexp16maghat: maybe kubuntu egdy, not ubuntu03:51
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maghatUBUNTU edgy.03:51
eexp16maghat: or is libqt also included in ubuntu?03:52
RarjHow can I edit the headings of the Gnome menu ?03:52
Lelopwhat means to compile something ?03:52
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maghatI dont know. I downloaded the deb firefox offered to install it and it just worked.03:52
tijnhuh03:52
tijnare portscans considred illegal?03:52
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Kane274Lelop: compiling something is when you have the code and you need to make it work with the system. you compile the code so the system understands it :)03:53
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Kane274if it isn't compiled the code is useless03:53
maghatI never could get skype to work on dapper btw03:53
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LelopKane274: thank you03:53
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ataqmaghat: what problems had you?03:54
LelopKane274: do you know a site where can i read more about this ? .. about linux and all this stuff03:54
eladzhow can i fix these errors>Selecting previously deselected package skype.03:54
eladz(Reading database ... 53826 files and directories currently installed.)03:54
eladzUnpacking skype (from skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb) ...03:54
eladzdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:03:54
eladz skype depends on libqt3-mt | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:03:54
eladz  Package libqt3-mt is not installed.03:54
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eladz  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.03:54
tijn!paste03:54
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)03:54
eladzdpkg: error processing skype (--install):03:54
Kane274what distro do you have installed or are you planning to install ?03:54
Lelop!paste03:54
eladz dependency problems - leaving unconfigured03:54
eladzErrors were encountered while processing:03:54
eladz skype03:55
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eexp16eladz: do NOT paste multiple lines here please03:55
tijnjust...dont do that again :)03:55
eladzok sorry03:55
maghatataq the same eladz has now, but when I forced the installation of the qt libs, skype started but it never connected properly03:55
ataqsearch debian package database for libqt if its not in the repo's03:55
maghateladz what version of ubuntu are you using?03:55
ataqDid ye try apt get?03:55
eladzxubuntu03:55
ataqdapper?03:55
jeficebeamim new to linux and i would like develope programs and web applications. what programming laguage should i study?03:55
ataqedgy?03:55
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maghatyes eladz, dapper or edgy?03:56
Kane274Lelop: if you are planning to instal ubuntu edgy eft check out this site --> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy03:56
vedos_jeficebeam: try Python and Java03:56
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eladzthe older one..03:56
maghatso ubuntu edgy's firefox offers to install downloaded debs. sweeet!03:56
dawkirstHello. My Ubunut (a fresh installation) hangs after a few hours? Any leading indicators to what my cause this?03:57
MsClock<jeficebeam> im new to linux and i would like develope programs and web applications. what programming laguage should i study?03:57
LelopKane274: i am using ubuntu edgy :)03:57
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MsClockPHP, Mysql03:57
MsClockPython is an easy language03:57
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MsClockJava is portable so it's probably the best to use in Linux if you want lots of people to use your programs03:57
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MsClockIt's also quite slow03:57
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ataqmaghat: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fq%2Fqt-x11-free%2Flibqt3-mt_3.3.7-1_i386.deb&md5sum=2c221ccf49a694b5bffd046d763f48e3&arch=i386&type=main03:57
maghatMySQL sux :p03:57
MsClockunfortunately03:57
Kane274Lelop: ah ok :) well that site is awesome to start with. what are you trying to compile ?03:57
ataqmaghat: thats the package03:57
MsClockWhat should he use instead then?03:57
MsClockYes, LAMP03:57
MsClockor WAMP03:57
MsClockWhich is funnier03:57
MsClockI WAMP you!!!03:57
MsClockI WAMPed my server today.03:58
LelopKane274: well, this is the prob, i am not trying to compile nothing, just i want to know what is that :)03:58
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MsClock<dawkirst> Hello. My Ubunut (a fresh installation) hangs after a few hours? Any leading indicators to what my cause this?03:58
MsClockYour Ubu Nut?03:58
MsClockYour Nut is hanging?03:58
MsClockHmm03:58
ataqMySql is class! My fav!03:58
MsClockI'd see a doctor03:58
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maghatuse PostgreSQL any day of the week ;)03:58
dawkirstlol03:58
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dawkirstPretty much yeah ;)03:58
dawkirstRetry: my Ubuntu (a fresh installation) hangs after a few hours? Any leading indicators to what my cause this?03:59
jeficebeamok.. actually, im already started studying php but my friend told me JSP is better to php. my other friend suggest python.03:59
ataqPostgreSQL won Linux Journel Editor choice database of the year. . .03:59
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eexp16eladz: so you have ubuntu dapper?04:00
ProN00bjeficebeam, you and both of your friends are horribly misguided and wrong04:00
ataqmaghat: did you try that?04:00
ProN00bjeficebeam, perl is the only real choice04:00
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maghatJSP is not better, mostly it is just a lot more complicated :p04:00
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eladzi guess, i downloaded the older version because it said it has support04:00
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dawkirstSo anyone knows why Ubunutu may hang?04:00
maghateladz: upgrade to edgy and you should solve your problem.04:00
ataqeladz: oh ya the LTS?04:01
eexp16eladz: both have support, but the older has long term support04:01
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eladzk, i don't want to update now04:01
eexp16eladz: cat /etc/issue04:01
ataqeladz: I dont really like edgy too much anyway. the promises of XGL out of the box that failed turned me back top fedora04:01
Kane274Lelop: well if you need to know what compiling is, it is just turning program code into an executable file/program. there isn't much more to compiling in general. but of course there are different languages that you can compile, like c, c++ etc. so if you wanna learn more about compiling you should try googeling for compiling c, howto compile c etc.04:01
maghateladz: unless you are running a server you can upgrade to newer version without too much worry.04:02
yokomoI just installed 6.10 and I have a intel pro wireless 3945 card, I am having trouble with network-manager-gnome... it installs, but I can't seem to find it now04:02
maghatataq: fc6 is very nice.04:02
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eladzUbuntu 6.06.1 LTS \n \l04:02
maghatataq: too bad wireless support basically sucks04:02
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ataqmaghat: Ya I fell in love with it. I left after RH9 and now its good to be home!04:03
Luci3nyokomo where have you looked04:03
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ataqmaghat: Drivers full stop!04:03
yokomoin the wiki04:03
patrick_kingi need big help 1. Connect a ubuntu workstation to a windows 2003 domain.04:03
patrick_king2. Get user profiles from the windows 2003 server. (even if this means creating linux profiles on the windows server)04:03
yokomooh, on my system? in the applications04:03
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patrick_king3. Mount /home to users area on the windows 2003 domain server.04:03
patrick_king4. also be able to connect to the internet via a proxy server.04:03
patrick_kingsorry for spam04:03
DreamerHxChello all04:03
yokomoand in system04:03
eexp16eladz: okay. do this: sudo apt-get install libqt-mt04:03
michaelpoi got ubuntu cd from shipit... thank you very much... but my 3 yr old compaq presario 2819ap cannot even bootup....04:03
jeficebeamah.. ok. what is the advantage of perl with python? can i also use it for developing webpages?04:03
ataqmaghat: I got my Ralink 2500 to finally work under FC604:03
DreamerHxCwhat can I do when I fglxinfo and it says error: unable to open display (null)?04:04
SlartIs anyone here using wine on Ubuntu 6.10 64bit? I'm having trouble compiling it and I could use some help04:04
Luci3nyokomo have you installed ndiswrapper04:04
maghatperl is ugly :p04:04
michaelpoi got ubuntu cd from shipit... thank you very much... but my 3 yr old compaq presario 2819ap cannot even bootup.... any advise? help.. thanks...04:04
Kane274Lelop: it's just that compiling is very different regarding the program language you use, you can use different options compiling a code. most of the time when compiling the code is being scanned and checked for errors you made :) then tells you why it didnt compile. read the info on this site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiler04:04
maghatpython is slow :p04:04
maghatno language is perfect :)04:04
ataqmichael: check bios boot settings04:04
LelopKane274: ok, so by the way, I want to start to develop programs but i dont know what language i can use. i dont know nothing about it.04:04
maghatexcept C of course :D04:04
patrick_kinganyone know where i can start off04:04
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yokomoLuci3n: no, because the wireless card is working right now04:04
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Slartmichaelpo: it just stops after "booting kernel"? if so, try to disconnect any external dvd/cd drives etc.. worked for me04:04
eladzE: Couldn't find package libqt-mt04:05
michaelpowhat is there to check in the bios? the boot sequence?04:05
dawkirstSo. Anyone knows why Ubunutu may hang?04:05
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Luci3nyokomo it should apear as an icon where the software updates are04:05
yokomoLuci3n: nothing there04:05
maghateladz: I tried and retried to install skype on dapper and never succeded making it work.04:05
ataqmichaelpro: ya, you said dont even boot?04:05
agentis it possible to have a places panel entry only (ala "main menu") in gnome?04:05
yokomoLuci3n: synaptic shows it as installed04:05
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Luci3nyokomo also system > admin > netowk ...04:05
eexp16eladz: sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt04:05
ataqmichaelpro: or have you already installed?04:05
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DreamerHxCwhat can I do when I fglxinfo and it says error: unable to open display (null)? I have an ATI04:05
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yokomoLuci3n: not listed04:06
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Kane274Lelop: well if you want to start developing software you should check out c++ or java. depending where the programm should eventually be run on... a great start to learn programming though is making websites with php (scripting language)04:06
eladzPackage libqt3-mt is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:06
Luci3nyokomo maybe you should reinstall and if that fails trya reboot04:06
maghateladz: so if you really need skyp I'd suggest using the newer ubuntu version. Or installing fedora core 6, it works beautifully there too.04:06
MarciuxGwill firestarter help me to share internet for other computer?04:07
eladzE: Package libqt3-mt has no installation candidate04:07
MarciuxGwill firestarter help me to share internet for other computer?04:07
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eexp16eladz: fix your repositories04:07
Kane274Lelop: there you can see results right on the website and php is now object oriented programming (like c++ or java) :)04:07
ataqeladz: is that apt-get your using04:07
ProN00bMarciuxG, why not try ?04:07
yokomoLuci3n: I tried reinstalling in synaptic and rebooting04:07
LelopKane274: i think that c++ is to hard for a newbie..04:07
rogue780!ivtv04:07
ubotuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy04:07
yokomonothing shows04:07
eladzyes04:07
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jeficebeamok.. what do i need to start developing using c++ in ubuntu?04:07
maghatLelop: Try python too. It's very elegant and easy to learn. And cross-platform too.04:07
eladzi wrote what eexp16 wrote04:07
mrbond82Is there any other alternative to ddclient for ubuntu? my ddclient doesnt' seem to work04:07
michaelpoi got ubuntu cd from shipit... thank you very much... but my 3 yr old compaq presario 2819ap laptop cannot even bootup in livecd.... pentium 4m.. 768mb ram.. iit give error messages halfway booting up... the laptop come with detachable cdrom drive... not external... if i remove the cdrom drive, what cd drive do i use to boot the livecd?04:07
Luci3nyoykomo try installing ndiswrapper utils04:07
ataqeladz: download the deb from http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fq%2Fqt-x11-free%2Flibqt3-mt_3.3.7-1_i386.deb&md5sum=2c221ccf49a694b5bffd046d763f48e3&arch=i386&type=main04:07
MarciuxGor it is more easy thing to share internet?04:07
agentjeficebeam: an editor and a compiler (gcc)04:08
ataqeladz: and itsall that04:08
SlartLelop, why not try python for a start.. pretty easy and well behaved..04:08
Lelopmaghat: thanks guys, I'll search more about those languages04:08
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Lelopok04:08
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Kane274Lelop: yeah python is nice too and so is c :) well hf04:08
Lelophehe, thanks04:08
maghatLelop: check out mono too.04:08
yokomoLuci3n: ok, installed04:08
ProN00bwow, whats with all the loosers in here suggesting php and python ?04:08
Lelopok04:08
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ataqeladz: did you do that?04:08
Slartmichaelpo: good question.. I had an internal drive to boot from...I dont have any good ideas for your problem, sorry04:08
DreamerHxCwhat can I do when I fglxinfo and it says error: unable to open display (null)? I have an ATI04:09
agentjeficebeam: get package build-essential for the compilers04:09
Luci3nyokomo can you see the package now04:09
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yokomoLuci3n: in synaptic?04:09
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eladztells me something about libaudio04:09
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ProN00bmaghat, why would you suggest mono to anyone, faghat ?04:09
SlartProN00b: what's wrong with python as a first language?04:09
Luci3nyokomo no on the menu04:09
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ataqfaghat lol04:09
yokomoLuci3n: no04:09
Lelopso, do i have to buy the book with python ? and the cd of course04:09
Luci3nyokomo sorry im not sure what's wrong04:10
ataqeladz: what does it say?04:10
ProN00bSlart, its a really bad start04:10
eladzi can't copy because it's a lot of lines04:10
michaelposorry... it is swappable cdrom drive with diskette drive... its internal.. not external...04:10
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eladz  Package libaudio2 is not installed.04:11
ataqeladz: roughly tell me what it says04:11
ProN00bSlart, almost as bad as starting with brainfuck or cobol or some other faggy language using whitespaces as syntax elements04:11
ataqthen sudo apt-get that04:11
maghatProNoob, because I program for a living, and Mono is *good*. And so is Python and .NET . And I also suggest you grow up.04:11
SlartProN00b: why? no strict type-checking? whitespace?04:11
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ataqeladz: you see you have to get all the package dependancies. use that site I gave you, if its not in the repos04:11
ProN00bLelop, sudo apt-get install perl and you will have everything you ever need04:11
eladzhow do i send you a private msg>04:11
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maghateladz: install the newer ubuntu, you will get it working faster, and time is money...04:12
eladzhow do i do that?04:12
maghatperl? LOL04:12
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ataqeladz: Its roughly the same, I mean you'll still have dependacy problems04:12
eladzwithout downloading the iso and etc04:12
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osfameronperl LOL?04:12
eladzok04:12
A[D] minShow i can mount usb Memory Reader ?04:12
eladzso is there any package that has it all?04:12
eladzor something like that?04:13
ataqeladz: did you try sudo apt-get install libaudio2?04:13
osfameronI'm sure python and ruby rock also, but perl isn't quite ready to lol over just yet04:13
damnandygood morning04:13
maghatperl is fine... tcl is fine too. I like tcl. I like perl... Good old  languages.04:13
A[D] minS!mount usb04:13
eladzit gives me an error04:13
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-11ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 179 kB, installed size 400 kB04:13
helgedkI'm having huge problems with ext3 filesystem on 2 of my SATA drives. They keep getting corrupted and remounted read-only. It looks like a problem in Linux (not hardware). I04:13
DreamerHxCwhat can I do when I fglxinfo and it says error: unable to open display (null)? I have an ATI04:13
dawkirstSo. Anyone knows why Ubunutu may hang?04:13
eladzE: Package libaudio2 has no installation candidate04:13
Slartare there any good java development tools for linux? just asking.. never really looked04:13
eladzthis is really annoying04:13
ataqeladz: when you try to apt-get it? ok try "sudo apt-get -f install"04:14
ProN00bosfameron, i bet they look trendy in your resume (python and ruby), right next to your krad ajax, xml and other web2.0 skillz04:14
helgedkI'm running Ubuntu 6.10 Server04:14
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osfameronmaghat: heh, s'pose.  Though perl is getting a *lot* more development than tcl these days04:14
damnandyi am not sure if i am in the right place for this question but here it goes...I am running dapper drake on a ppc and trying to run a webcam, I can get the driver loaded and it recognizes the webcam but i always get a black screen, I have had this run once for me before..can anybody help?04:14
ProN00bmaghat, old doesn't matter04:14
osfameronProN00b: python is older than perl iirc04:14
helgedkI tried reinstalling the e2fstools and stuff04:14
ProN00bosfameron, as i said, old doesn't matter04:14
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maghatProN00b, I'm 33 so I should know ;)04:14
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livingtmI have a usb device that, when plugged in, shows up in lsusb... But the kernel modules dont get loaded and the firmware does not get downloaded. Anyone familiar with this system??04:15
eladzi don't know that to do, i'll return later, thanks for the help04:15
eladzbye04:15
Juhazperl is -87, python is -9004:16
ataqeladz:g'luck04:16
maghateladz: bye and goofd luck04:16
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eexp16eladz, you are giving up much too fast04:16
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maghatyeah, now you mention it perl definitely has that 80's something... hehe04:16
ataqeexp16: he'll reinstall xp now! lol04:16
ProN00bnobody ever heard of python before google bought it04:16
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eexp16ataq: well, some people deserve it04:16
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Slartso, noone here is using wine on ubuntu 6.10 64bit, AMD k8?04:17
ataqeexp16: haha ya lol!04:17
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ArS3n1c0_W0rKitalian????04:17
rookiehwmspaghetti!04:17
ataqpizza04:17
eexp16!it | ArS3n1c0_W0rK04:17
dawkirstPizza!04:17
ubotuArS3n1c0_W0rK: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:17
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dawkirstSo. Anyone knows why Ubunutu may hang?04:17
maghatSlart: Dual booting windows is less of an head-ache than using wine04:17
ataqhang? what way?04:17
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|_SpY_|anybody knows how i can monitor my eth0 to know what is my current down/up ???04:18
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ArS3n1c0_W0rKok! ubotu!04:18
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Slartmaghat: mm.. I suppose so.... still I'd like to try it04:18
ataqmaghat: F*** Dual boot! XP sucks, Just dont use windows progs!!04:18
helgedkDoes anyone know of the ext3 problem? The journal keeps failing whenever I start copying files04:18
helgedkEverytime I do fsck some files are lost, and the error repeats itself04:18
maghatataq: are you high? what about games???04:18
ProN00bdawkirst, yeah, its because you are *#!+~!! and you are lacking common sense... if you don't give any details how should we know why, ours doesn't hang04:18
dawkirstataq, after a few hours it just freezes up. I suspect it's the screensaver: just read a thread about it.04:18
helgedkSpY: there's a little toolbar-plugin for your desktop04:18
davey486Has anyone tried feisty? What do you think?04:19
helgedkjust right-click one of your panels04:19
CoRnJuLiOxdoes anyone here know if flash player 7 has a standalone projector for linux?04:19
ProN00bdawkirst, tried disabling it ?04:19
maghatataq: You still need windows to get a proper development environment04:19
ataqmaghat: I play ET:TCE, Doom3, Quake4! Linux!!04:19
ProN00bCoRnJuLiOx, why not use flash9 ?04:19
SlartProN00b: did you pick underwear 2 sizes to small today? you seem kind of grumpy ;)04:19
ProN00bCoRnJuLiOx, i know flash 9 has a standalone projector04:19
ataqmaghat: I program in C++ and I use Intel compilers!04:19
maghatataq: and I think shooting games are braindead :p04:19
ProN00bSlart, lol whut ?04:19
ataqdawkirst: Disable screensaver and verify04:19
helgedkSo noone knows of my problem? The errors start with [42955474.910000]  EXT3-fs error (device sda5): ext3_new_block: Allocating block in system zone - blocks from 81166339, length 104:20
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ataqmaghat: ah! bad man!!! FPS rocks man04:20
maghatatak: I like Civilization 4, Neverwinter Nights 2, Elder Scrolls Oblivion...04:20
dawkirstProN00b, thanks for that biography. No I did not try to disable it yet. I'm not in the near vacinity of the machine at the moment. Btw, I like your name -- it's choke full of common sense.04:20
ProN00bmaghat, yeah, but how boring would your personal life be if you never did anything braindead ?04:20
SlartProN00b: nothing.. you just seem kind of... grumpy "dawkirst, yeah, its because you are *#!+~!! and you are lacking common sense..." =)04:20
ataqmaghat: oblivion is cool, played it in cedega before!04:20
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helgedkthere are also some [42955475.350000]  attempt to access beyond end of device04:20
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JuralHaving a issue with a fresh installation, X will only work when started from single user mode. started normally x freeze04:21
maghatProN00b: ok I also play Call of Duty 2... but also for linux04:21
ataqProN00b: I like your style!04:21
helgedkI could really use some help here.... reformating does not fix the problem04:21
helgedkThere are no bad blocks on any of the devices04:21
Juralhas anyone else seen this behaviour?04:21
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ProN00bSlart, thats the first sentence which was intended to give more weight to the second, also he already pasted that sentence in here multiple times04:21
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ataqmaghat: Call of duty 2, cedega ya?04:21
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ProN00bSlart, i sound different if i am grumpy, lol04:21
_MMA_Anyone having X crashing on them when trying to play games? ie: Quake4 or UT2004?04:21
Slarthehe.. ok.. just checking =)04:21
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ataq_MMA_: Gammy Drivers?04:22
ProN00bataq, thanks ^^04:22
damnandyanyone have any clue to what could be causing my webcam problem?04:22
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dawkirstProN00b, I did. But why didn't you reply the first time? Then I wouldn't have to paste it several times.04:22
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_MMA_ataq: Gammy? Im usint the nVidia drivers from nVidia. I have a pretty new card. A 7900GT.04:23
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_MMA_*using04:23
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ProN00bdawkirst, because the first time i seen you already had pasted it twice, and spamming + lacking common sense was over the treshold04:23
DanglyBitsanyone have broadcom 4306 wireless working on laptop?04:23
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ataq_MMA_: Strange, maybe you might have the settings up too high and can't handle, although that card should not have a problem04:23
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davey486how does cedega differ from wine?04:24
ataqcedega is speciffically for games and costs coinage04:24
Slartisn't cedega commercial?04:24
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ataqyup04:24
Kane274can anyone help me mount my hd using the ubuntu server edition meaning no graphic help ;) ?04:24
_MMA_ataq: This is a TOTALLY fresh install. I launch UT2004 once and X crashes. No settings at all changed.04:24
ataqalthough winex is like cedega and free04:24
davey486isn't cedega wine with some extras?04:24
dawkirstProN00b, you're a fart.04:24
DreamerHxCshould be any problem if I have a motherboard with an AC97 and a sound blaster?04:25
ProN00bdawkirst, lol, and you lack common sense and are a spammer04:25
ataq_MMA_: I am not sure, i'd advise posting on ubuntu forums04:25
_MMA_ataq: -generic kernel04:25
ProN00bdawkirst, also, i think you are kinda childish for calling people names04:25
Slart_MMA_: perhaps you have to change graphics drivers? do some other voodoo with the x configuration04:25
_MMA_ataq: Yea... Ill see.04:25
ataqits not kernel anyways04:25
_MMA_ataq: Ill try the repo drivers.04:26
ataqprob a proplem with X, just dunno how to go about it04:26
dawkirstProN00b, relax oh furious demeanor...that was meant as a social joke -- If I wanted to insult you I would've done better thatn "fart", believe you me.04:26
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iterugh04:26
ataq_MMA_: by the way, try running the game in the terminal, and that will say the output problem04:26
_MMA_I do. But it kills X and everything is gone. :)04:27
ataq_MMA_: F*** Repo driver. the nVidia ones are the best04:27
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_MMA_Well I mean the nVidia drivers from the repo.04:27
helgedkIt seems like my ext3 journals get killed when I write to one of the disks04:27
ataqtry reconfiguring x "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" as su04:27
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ataq_MMA_: type in terminal gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:28
ProN00bdawkirst, well, i was just judging from your pattern of behavior in here, sorry if thats not the real you04:28
helgedkThe first few hundred megabytes are ok, but then it screws up and changes the drive to read-only04:28
_MMA_ataq: 8xxxx something from the repo. Im using 9629 from nVidia.04:28
ataq_MMA_: and check is driver nv or nvidia04:28
ataq8774?04:28
_MMA_ataq: Im well versed in hacking my xorg. ;)04:29
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_MMA_ataq: Yes, 8774 is the current repo driver.04:29
KnowledgEngihello04:29
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ataq_MMA_: sorry! try reconfigure, maybe resolution is stressing the display or something?04:29
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Slarthmm.. can I use apt to download the newer driver from nvidia? or I have to compile it myself?04:30
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ataqSlart: you can get it through synaptic, yes04:30
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ataqSlart: enable repo sources04:31
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Slartataq: ok.. I'll go look.. see what I can find.. brb04:31
_MMA_ataq: Cant be. I was running 1920x1200 on Dapper with 8xAA and 8xAF getting 40fps. The only new variable is Edgy and the 9629 from nVidia.04:31
ataqSlart: its in restricted I think . . .04:31
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helgedkNow I reverted to an older kernel - I hope that will fix the filesystem problem04:32
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helgedkSince noone replied yet, this is my best shot04:32
yokomohaving some trouble with network-manager-gnome04:32
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ataqhelgedk: whats the prob?04:32
yokomoI have the package installed, I have my ipw 3945 working, I see nothing in the system tray for network manager04:32
helgedkthe ext3 journal keeps corrupting whenever I write data on one of my new SATA drives (400gb)04:33
dawkirstProN00b, you hit the nail on the head there. I'm actually a pretty likeable guy. And I an in awe at your abillity to judge people's common sense over a few lines of text so accurately! It's absolutely awesome - If you'd write a book, I'd buy it.04:33
yokomoin system->preferences-> sessions, I see nm-applet --sm-disable running04:33
helgedkafter a minute or so it screws up and is remounted read-only04:33
ataqhelgedk: My advise is, backup your stuff and reformat, because there is more to that than kernel anyways04:34
playa_Hi, i've got sound problems, master volume/channel in general don't work, though sound does. (I use ALSA 1.11 , onboard-sound, ATI-IXP, Ubuntu 6.10). I'm new to GNU/Linux04:34
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ataqhelgedk: do you hae permissions set to the files04:34
yokomoany ideas on how to get network-manager working properly?04:34
Doowplaya_: could be that your master volume is set to the wrong device, rightclick it and choose preferences04:35
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rgghello,I downloaded an aMSN autopackage from...well,the amsn website.i changed the permissions and ran it,but i forgot to delete the old version of amsn from synaptic.so,it didn't install.then i deleted the old amsn and now it just won't run.04:35
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ataq_MMA_: try the repo one just to see is there a difference, shouldnt be tho04:35
helgedkI tried reformating, even replaced the drive04:35
DreamerHxCmy comp gets freezed just after logon screen and I get this with ATI and with nVIDIA videocards too, do u have any idea please?04:35
rggnautilus is calling it a "script shell",i try to run it and it just doesn't,and when i run it on terminal,i get no "text" there,terminal opens and just closes right away.04:35
ataqrgg: unistall them and reinstall. . . .04:36
helgedkok... but one of the drives is completely new04:36
helgedkI'm trying to do backup on that one, but it produces the same error as the old one04:36
helgedkyeah, some are root04:36
helgedkbut I'm copying via root04:36
helgedkIt also happens when writing new files04:36
Doowplaya_: there's a console program called alsamixer that you could try also04:36
rggataq: uninstall what?04:36
ProN00bdawkirst, no, you misunderstood me there, that is exactly the problem, i can't judge you from those lines, and if you craft them like that i can do so even less but that doesn't really matter... what matters is how you behaved in here, even if that doesn not reflect your real chacter04:36
ataqrgg: aMSN. . . .04:36
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Slartataq: hmm.. how can I see what version the different packages install.. it's not in the description..04:36
rggataq: i've done that04:36
rggataq: read my message :)04:36
ataqSlart: Type in nVidia04:36
_MMA_ataq: I will. Right now its a choice between games and Beryl. :)04:36
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Doowplaya_: if I understood right that it's just your volume control that has no effect and your sound works otherwise04:36
helgedkI'm trying to copy the backup again now04:36
playa_Doow: it's set to ATI-IXP, thats correct afaik04:37
ataqSlart: delete .amsn and reinstall so04:37
helgedksame error!04:37
helgedkgrrr04:37
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playa_Doow: yes04:37
helgedkOk, I'm lost now04:37
ataq_MMA_: Check out Fedora core 6, i moved for some probs, and everything just works! XGL perfect! Nvidia Sorted!04:37
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ataqrgg: delete .amsn and reinstall so04:38
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playa_Doow: In some progs with inbuilt sound control, i can change the output volume, but the Master Volume, etc does nothing...04:38
yokomocan anyone help me with network-manager?04:38
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rggataq: no way :P04:38
wilee85!ivtv04:38
ubotuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy04:38
wilee85!mythtv04:38
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ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV04:38
Doowplaya_: don't really know then, try changing the volume with alsamixer to see if it's working at all04:38
rggataq: .amsn is sacred here :P04:38
A[D] minS!glx04:38
ataqrgg: well maybe thats why you cant get things to work . .04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
A[D] minS!xgl04:39
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:39
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ataqrgg: are you afraid to lose contacts?04:39
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_MMA_ataq: I might set up a game partition with it. I cant really move because Im developing Ubuntu Studio. Need Edgy/Feisty around. ;)04:39
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dawkirstProN00b, I guess you're right. I appologize for spamming (I'm new to this thing, and I don't know the channel policies, yet) and thank you for replying.04:39
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helgedkIs there no option left but to use ext2 now?04:39
ataq_MMA_ I use edgy on my laptop, and I moved t FC6 for gaming and my server04:39
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rggataq: contacts,smileys,logs,webcam logs...04:40
JuralI can only launch gdm or x from single user mode, when I start the system regular The screen blur's after a few seconds loading GDM, this also locks all terminals. GDM log reports a error not being able to open security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicey <- this folder does not exist04:40
_MMA_ataq: What GFX driver on FC6?04:40
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ataqrgg: well contacts will automatically be redownload by msn server.... and you can get the smileys again... and logs! who needs msn chat logs!04:40
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ProN00bdawkirst, ok, so your box freezing only when you leave it alone (when the screensaver would normally kick in) ?04:41
rggataq: me :)04:41
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ataq_MMA_ : its called mod-nvidia, its gr5eat, easy to install, just yum install mod-nvidia04:41
wijnanddawkirst: and here i was thinking common sense would get you by in the "channel policies" thing..04:41
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ataqrgg: good luck getting running so! :)04:41
rggataq: the emoticon was unneeded in my last message,ignore it please04:41
wooferdoes anyone know why i can't see my satat harddisk on step 5 of install?04:41
_MMA_ataq: I mean is it a official nVidia driver and what version is it? :)04:42
woofersata*04:42
rggataq: now,how deleting .amsn will make an autopackage run?04:42
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GionnyBosshi all!04:42
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pradeephello04:42
ataq_MMA_ : no its not, but it works brilliant. I have quake 4 and there was no differnce to that of the prop driver in performance04:42
Juralhelp? anyone?04:42
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_MMA_ataq: Nice.04:43
ataqrgg: download the .deb and dpkg -i amsnname04:43
dawkirstwijnand, ok, you got me there buddy...I did it on purpose...I'm a bad person.04:43
GionnyBossI have just installed Samba... on Fedora Core I had a GUI to configure Samba in an easy way under System -> Amministration, but I can't see it here in Ubuntu... is there a package to install to have this feature?04:43
ataq_MMA_ : ubuntu is great but its not living up to certain promises thats why i left04:43
wijnanddawkirst: admitting it is the first step.04:43
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_MMA_ataq: PM?04:44
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yokomoso, no one can help me with network-manager?04:44
wooferhelp please!04:44
GionnyBosshey gus, sorry... I think I found it on my own... there's a package xubuntu-system-tools :) ok sorry for asking withouth trying a little bit more on my own :P04:44
DreamerHxCwhat's the problem if I get when glxinfo: "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display :0.0"???04:44
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wooferInstaller is not finding my hard disk04:45
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dawkirstProN00b, I will first try disabling the screensaver -- if the proplem prevails, I'll ask again ;)04:45
saimu0OHHHHHHHHHHHKAAAAAAAAAAAAAY  i now have a problem with my resolution  im using a via 8000 card and my res has gone low again,   can anyone tell me what the code is to do the  "in terminal installation of drivers" i cant remember and cant find it on the Ubuntu website.04:45
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helgedkI'm not even sure if ext2 works04:46
helgedkBut I think it does...04:46
helgedkI wonder how this could happen. My server worked perfectly for months, now it screws up my drives and files are lost :(04:46
helgedkI wasn't even home when the error started to occur.04:46
helgedkSo I haven't been messing around. No crashes either04:46
helgedkIt just suddenly stopped working.04:46
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helgedkinteresting... the copying is doing fine now!04:46
helgedkI omitted some directories04:46
helgedkno... now it crashed again :(04:46
helgedkdamn it04:46
helgedk...reformat again04:47
LjL!enter | helgedk04:47
ubotuhelgedk: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.04:47
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saimu0ISSUE with a VIA video card,  anyone here can help?04:48
yokomoI installed edgy on my dell laptop with a ipw3945 and it works  out of the box, but I want to install network-manager-gnome and it doesn't seem to display in the system panel.  do I have to disable the native edgy support and use ndiswrapper to get around this or is there something else I could try?  I am a little lost and googling an answer just brings up people that got this working but now HOW they got it working.04:48
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iturkhi there after i add a user using adduser -system ateos and then usermod -password xxxxx | then i cannot do login with this user why is that ?04:49
Sobkoahhhh ngantukk04:49
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dawkirstCheers guys. No hard feelings. Sorry about the lack of common sense and spamming.04:50
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bruenigyokomo, from the network-manager-gnome description it appears to say that it will run in the tray.04:50
yokomobruenig: correct, it is running however not displaying04:50
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bruenigyokomo, you have a tray right?04:51
iturkany ideas about user creation in ubuntu ??04:51
yokomoin sessions, it is listed as nm-applet --sm-disable04:51
LjLiturk: specifically?04:51
yokomobruenig: yes, I do have a tray04:51
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iturkhi there after i add a user using adduser -system ateos and then usermod -password xxxxx | then i cannot do login with this user why is that ?04:51
helgedkis there anyone who have any idea how I can fix my ext3 filesystem problem? Any way to reinstall something that might be corrupting it? I already reinstalled e2fstools, e2fslibs and tried an older kernel. Any special parameters for mkfs.ext3 to make it work?It worked so far, but suddenly both of the 400gb SATA drives keeps failing.04:51
bruenigyokomo, right click on the panel. Go to add to panel, and then pick from that list of applets04:52
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wrzask_helgedk, What kind of failure is that?04:52
agentis it possible to assign a shortcut to shutdown (not the logout menu)?04:53
yokomobruenig: there isn04:53
iturkLjL: other think why is there a useradd and adduser command ??04:53
yokomot a network-manager listed04:53
helgedkit looks like the ext3 journal get corrupted randomly when I write to the disk04:53
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damoekconnect04:53
damoekconnect -laeta.zoite.net04:53
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helgedkwrzask_: I've reformated many times now04:53
damoekjoin laeta.zoite.net04:53
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LjLiturk, you normally want to use "adduser" on an Ubuntu system, it is more complete. anyway, i'm not sure system users are *supposed* to have a password set...?04:54
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LjLiturk: (and i normally use "passwd" to set passwords)04:54
inFwHello. I have acquired recently a laptop with an ATI x1600 graphics board. I'm using edgy and would like to know how to install the required drivers. Would someone please point me to some howto or something? (ps - my goal is to eventually install xgl, I've heard there are some conflicts with some drivers?)04:54
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helgedkwrzask_: In dmesg it starts with this error: [42951343.870000]  EXT3-fs error (device sda5): ext3_new_block: Allocating block in system zone - blocks from 80183299, length 104:54
ataqanyone trying out Debian GNU/HURD?04:54
iturkLjL: i would like to login with that user how can i do it ?04:54
LjLiturk: "su - ateos" from another user04:54
LjLiturk: if you actually want to login, and use it as a normal user, i don't think you should create a system user04:55
LjLiturk: create a regular user instead04:55
helgedkI would really like journaling on my filesystem, as it takes AGES to do an fsck if the system crashes (e.g. during power shortages)04:55
iturkLjL: hmmm so i would like to create a user that can also uses su command to have root privileges is that possible ??04:55
LjLiturk: what's wrong with using sudo?04:55
helgedkBut ext3 just wont work04:56
iturkLjL: it says you are not a system user04:56
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LjLiturk: that's just because you must add yourself as a member of group "admin", i think04:56
LjLiturk: only members of "admin" can use sudo to get root by default. so, "adduser <username> admin"04:56
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dcwChrisanyone here know C programming or is there a better channel for that?04:56
WhtigerdcwChris, #c?04:57
iturkok so i need to do two thinks create a normal user then add it to the group admin !!04:57
helgedkwrzask_: This happens on both drives.04:57
Zylche#alphabet-programming04:57
Zylche:P04:57
dcwChrisplain C print f specifically04:57
ProN00bdcwChris, ##c04:57
ProN00b(really with two #)04:57
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ZylcheI heard ##c floods a lot.04:57
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Whtigeroh yeah, it has two #..04:57
WhtigerHey, perl keeps giving me "perl: warning: Setting locale failed."04:57
LjLiturk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto04:57
dcwChrisI am trying to print 4 hex digits with leading zeros but don't know formating syntax.04:57
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Quinn_StormdcwChris: man printf04:58
hc`i need some help with nVidia FX5200PCI and (X)Ubuntu04:58
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ProN00bWhtiger, i got the same when dist upgrading, someone told me it wasn't dangerous04:58
dcwChriso, that is the group name thanks04:58
wijnandhc` that number sounds eerily familiar... modules won't load?04:58
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LjLiturk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#head-3f8a7e5ae5fe6b048ffecef0bf38c811eede7aec04:58
hc`wijnand: yeah04:58
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mamonassassinaok,i downloaded the .tar.bz2 on the amsn website.and on ./configure,it says...04:59
WhtigerProN00b, I didn't think it was dangerous.. but I run perl scripts as cronjobs.04:59
mamonassassinaconfigure: error: libpng is required04:59
dcwChrisI have a whole C programming book and have been working for a half hour with %4.0X but no leading zeros04:59
mamonassassinathis.04:59
mamonassassinawhat is it?and how can i solve that problem?04:59
hc`something like that. works perfect with the 5.10 Live CD, but not with the 6.0604:59
dcwChrisno C programmers here?04:59
wijnandhc` nor 6.10 i hear05:00
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dcwChrisI am currently programming under both MS Windows and Ubuntu.05:00
WhtigerdcwChris, it's printf.05:00
ProN00bdcwChris, go to ##c -_-05:00
dcwChrisI got the printf function just need the format syntax.05:01
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dcwChrisusing the C bible but have not found a specific example of this.05:01
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MinceRhi05:01
MinceRthe pypanel package seems to lack /usr/bin/pypanel05:01
dcwChristhank you to all that tried to help.05:02
helgedkMaybe I should disable the diskcache on my 2 SATA drives to fix the problem - how do I do that?05:02
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iturkLjL: thanks for the help05:03
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hc`wijnand: hmm. but is it safe to use 5.10? The machine is an old PII 400mhz or so, with dualboot (windows and ubuntu). No advanced programs etc, just firefox, gaim/amsn, xchat and gedit. and thunderbird. a machine my cousin can play with05:03
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Juralcan anyone give me a hand with my GDM problem?05:04
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omkar86hi i want to write c programs, what should i install?05:04
LjLUbotu, please tell omkar86 about build-essential | omkar86, you have a private message from Ubotu05:05
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BeBrawis there a GNOME based DVB player for edgy eft?05:05
designdreamahh... i broke /usr/bin/tail what package contains it?05:06
omkar86no i don't want to compile any big software, i want to write my own programs with some graphical IDE05:06
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LjLUbotu, please tell designdream about apt-file | designdream, you have a private message from Ubotu05:06
EDevildesigndream, dpkg -S /usr/bin/tail05:06
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LjLyeah, that too05:06
helgedkDoes anyone know how to disable diskcache? I'm using a SATA RAID controller05:06
LjLand, coreutils anyway05:06
helgedkwith 2 drives05:07
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omkar86i want ide like turbo c++05:07
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LjL!code | omkar8605:07
ubotuomkar86: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida05:07
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hc`why isn't nano in Terminal-based?05:08
omkar86ok thanlk you05:08
gpledhas anyone tried gnash?05:08
boinknaw05:08
SinnerGanyone know of a ide like visual studio where I can put breakpoints in the sourcecode and stuff?05:08
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designdreamdpkg -S /usr/bin/tail05:08
boinkI'm still using Flash 7.005:08
dv5237_hc`: what do you mean?05:08
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Quinn_StormI can't even view homestar runner with gnash05:08
LjLhc`: because that's not the same as the "editors" factoid, it's more geared towards IDEs. though it's arguable, for sure05:08
designdreamahh! wrong screen sorry05:08
LjL!editors | hc`05:08
ubotuhc`: Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code05:08
boinkFlash 9 crashes everything05:08
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Lelop!code | Lelop05:09
ubotuLelop: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida05:09
mamonassassinaconfigure: error: libpng is required05:09
mamonassassinawhile i try to ./configure amsn0.9605:09
LjL!msg the bot | Lelop05:09
ubotuLelop: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)05:09
mamonassassinawhat is that?05:09
gpledi think i dont like adobe05:09
mamonassassinahow can i solve that problem?05:09
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hc`LjL: ah, I understand05:09
omkar86yeah is flash development possible in linux?05:09
Lelopsorry, LjL05:09
mamonassassinawhat should i install?05:09
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mamonassassinai have tcl8.5 and tk8.5 as well05:09
LjLmamonassassina: sudo apt-get install libpng-dev05:09
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selinuxium_mamonassassina: install libpng3-dev05:10
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selinuxium_mamonassassina: What are you trying to build?05:10
mamonassassinaselinuxium_: amsn 0.9605:10
LjLselinuxium_: amsn 0.9605:10
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mamonassassinaand now i need libjpeg. apt-get install libjpeg-dev?05:11
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omkar86can we develop in flash in linux?05:11
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LjLomkar86: afraid not. perhaps using WINE05:11
WhtigerSo, how so I solve "perl: warning: Setting locale failed."?05:11
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omkar86ok05:11
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selinuxium_mamonassassina: do    sudo apt-get build-dep amsn   in a terminal to install all dependecies..05:11
mamonassassinaselinuxium_: oh,that's great05:12
LjLmamonassassina: and read Ubotu's factoid05:12
LjL(and the link it contains, that is)05:12
MinceRbytez05:12
selinuxium_mamonassassina: you can do that for ones that are already in the repos.05:12
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selinuxium_mamonassassina: NP :)05:13
m_0_r_0_nHi, how can I downgrade thunderbird to the last older version?05:13
mamonassassinaLjL: read it,and i'm reading the link05:13
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boink!downgrade05:13
ubotuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.05:13
boinkmeaning .. downgrading any software is useless05:14
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ragamuffinIs there a nog-graphical  way to install ubutnu alternate cd?05:14
ragamuffinI mean non-graphical05:14
boinkis the install even graphical?05:14
boinkit's based on an old debian install05:14
LjLhm, no, on the alternate CD, it is not05:14
ragamuffinboink: yes05:14
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LjLragamuffin: no05:14
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gpledboink: all mine have been gui05:15
boinkthe ubuntu install off the live cd is very graphical05:15
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boinkwhatever you think a gui is05:15
LjLyes but the question was about the Alternate CD05:15
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gpledboink: how do you install with out gui?05:15
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snypei didnt realize that05:15
LjL!alternate05:15
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.05:15
m_0_r_0_nboink, the new thunderbird contains a very dangerous bug! Downgrading to an older stable release can be usefull05:15
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gpled!gui05:15
boinkif there's a bug, there's an ubuntu security patch05:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gui - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
LjL!fishing05:16
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)05:16
ragamuffinbut it fails to respond on my 256 mb ram system05:16
boinkI installed that patch on dapper05:16
gpled!phishing05:16
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phishing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
omkar86sometimes ubuntu live desktop cd install runs very slow on even 256MB ram, in tht case alternate cd is best option05:16
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boinkI installed kubuntu on the alternate CD, worked fine05:16
snypereally- i just recommended it to my uncle w/ 256 ram :-/05:16
LjLragamuffin: well, with 256Mb, even the Desktop CD should run well, so with the Alternate CD, memory is certainly not a problem05:16
boinkno need for a mouse05:16
snypealright sweet05:17
WhtigerHellooo, does anyone know how to help me with my locale problem?05:17
snypesure05:17
snype!locale05:17
boinksnype: use kubuntu05:17
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf05:17
mamonassassinanow,look what happened after i did sudo make install and tried to open amsn: (let me pastebin it)05:17
boinkdamm .. sorry, I mean xubuntu.05:17
snypeboink-- i use ubuntu05:17
ragamuffinLjL: Desktop faild miserably05:17
boinkkubuntu is too much bloat for 256meg ram05:17
snypeboink-- gnome > kde imho05:17
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ragamuffinand then I downloaded alternate version05:17
ragamuffinthat also is not responding with its graphical interface05:17
boinkI installed xubuntu on an old laptop, I just made the mistake installing edgy05:17
boinkshould have installed dapper instead05:18
LjLragamuffin, i honestly doubt that either failed because of RAM shortage. did you verify the CDs?05:18
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ragamuffinLjL: yes05:18
boinkragamuffin: you see it's not the "Live CD"05:18
mamonassassinahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33689/05:18
LjLragamuffin: what kind of miserable failure do you get on the desktop CD?05:18
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omkar86i experienced slow install of kubuntu also, then i mounted some swap the install was more smooth than at first05:18
boinkthe Live CD can freeze up05:18
mamonassassinavery strange,i just installed tcl8.5 and tk8.505:18
RossWhi05:18
gpledyah, edgy seems like a mistake05:18
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ragamuffinLjL: at first it was live and install combined05:18
boinkedgy is like worse than debian sid05:18
RossWcould anybody tell me how to rename a Mounted Drive, i have mounted a Fat32 drive and it has a weird name05:19
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dark_lighthello, i am in a amd64 environment and want to build i386 deb packages with the ati-driver-installer.. i saw the listpkg and the installer actually can produce packages from x86_64 and x86 architectures05:19
boinkRossW: look in the /etc/fstab05:19
dark_lightis there any trick i can use?05:19
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gpledit is to bad. i had high hopes for edgy. 6.06 was a real nice distro05:19
omkar86boink: do u find any prblm with xmms in edgy?05:19
ragamuffinhow much time can a memtest take?05:19
RossWi have done and the drive is called /Storage as i named it but on my desktop and in the file browser its called _PNG followed by a weird symbol05:19
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LjLragamuffin: weeks, if you let it run05:19
dark_lightwith suse, i can specify SuSE/SUSE93-IA32 or SuSE/SLED10-AMD64, but with ubuntu i found no option for this05:20
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boinkxmms with edgy? that should work fine05:20
LjLragamuffin: the longer you let it run, the higher probability it has of finding a failure05:20
ragamuffinLjL: I should stop it midway?05:20
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RossWHow to fix a strange name of a mounted drive on your desktop and file browser but in fstab it is the correct name of the  drive?05:20
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ragamuffinLjL: is it any good to run it?05:21
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LjLragamuffin: 10 minutes rules out obvious failures (stuck bits). things like 1/2 hours can rules out intermittent but fairly constant failures. for subtler stuff, at least 24 hours i'd say05:21
omkar86boink:i upgraded to edgy using gui update tool, I can't see any text in xmms windows05:21
boinkthen try at the prompt: which xmms05:21
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boinkotherwise, do a dpkg -l|grep xmms05:21
LjLragamuffin: it's almost always a good idea to run a memtest.05:21
gpledRossW: what kind of strange names are you getting?05:21
LjLragamuffin: and yeah, when you're "convinced enough" that your RAM is OK, just reset the computer05:21
omkar86boink:the same happened with debian when i did apt-get dist upgrade from sarge to sid05:21
boinkheh .. you upgraded to sid and edgy? you must like pain and agony05:22
ragamuffinwhat does that test mean? checking memory modules?05:22
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tonyyarussoI'd like to access IRC from school, but my university's wireless network only has ports open for http, https, and a couple others.  I have a server machine at home that could be used as a part of the solution, as well as a very configurable router.  Could someone tell me how to get access to IRC if I can only use ports for https and the like, using irssi, ssh, screen, etc.?05:22
RossWgpled: _PNG followed by a werid symbol that looks like a box with to 0s a 1 and an A05:22
omkar86i can;t see any text in xmms dialogues, tha main windows are just fine05:22
boinkyou could try webchat.xs4all.nl05:22
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boinkor see if you can use ssh from your school, so you can make a ssh connection to your favourite account05:22
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mjrtonyyarusso, you can tell your ssh server to listen to any port that is open in your school wlan05:23
LjLragamuffin, yes. it writes stuff to RAM, then reads it back, and check that it matches what it had written. it uses "smart" bit patterns to make possible failure more evident. but keep in mind that RAM can fail very subtly -- you can have a bit stay set correctly for a day, and then suddenly change state05:23
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gpledRossW: wow, that is strange.  never seen that before05:23
mamonassassinaso,from the beginning.05:23
boinkI used ssh in Tunisia and China with much web censureship, works great :)05:23
mjrtonyyarusso, though, as a primary solution, I suggest asking them to open the ssh port, it's just stupid to block05:23
mamonassassinai am compiling amsn05:23
PumpkinPienoooo05:23
mamonassassinaor...i compiled it05:23
PumpkinPiedont sppaamm me05:23
tonyyarussomjr: So if I tell ssh to connect to 143 or whatever it is, the _outgoing_ port will be that as well?05:23
mamonassassinaand when trying to open it,i get this:05:23
LjLragamuffin: but, for the really broken RAM modules, memtest will tell you within 10 minutes usually05:23
mamonassassinahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33689/05:23
fnfHello, has anyone compiled the latest kernel (2.6.18.3) ? I'm having a few make errors here.05:23
boinkyou can try to pipe the ssh connection through port 80 as well05:23
RossWgpled: ive re-installed ubuntu 3 or 4 times and it still has a strange name but the name varies05:23
LjLPumpkinPie: ?05:24
tonyyarussomjr: Yeah....they aren't too bright.  I already tried the intelligent method.05:24
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ragamuffinLjL: I see, thanks05:24
helgedkdisabling write cache on my SATA drives didn't work either05:24
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fnfanyone ? the build errors seem to be common, but I wonder if this is Ubuntu-related ?05:25
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gpledRossW: this on 6.10?05:25
Setzer`hi05:25
RossW6.0605:25
pur-angst`hey05:25
in4mersup?05:25
tbaurhello05:25
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mjrtonyyarusso, bummer. On the client, you can spesify a nonstandard port with -p; on the server, add a line "Port whatever" to /etc/ssh/sshd_config05:25
RossWgpled: i think its 6.06, dapper drake05:25
ragamuffinStrangely, the first time I installed alternate version I had no graphical user interface. I had failed with the desktop version. I doubt that alternate version took the edit partition thingly from the desktop version and worked for me.05:26
gpledRossW: run the check cd test05:26
tonyyarussomjr: I'll give that a shot - thanks.05:26
RossWgpled: how do i do that? sorry im a newbie05:26
in4merok05:26
pur-angst`not sure05:26
Setzer`secret05:26
tonyyarussomjr: Oh - can the server listen to both the standard and nonstandard port at the same time?05:26
helgedkI'm completely blank05:26
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gpledRossW: just boot up the cd like an install, but look at the options.  one says something like check the cd05:26
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protocol1how do I extract a .tgx file?05:26
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protocol1via console?05:26
mjrtonyyarusso, yes, that's why I didn't tell you to replace the old Port line ;)05:26
RossWooh, i already did that before installing05:27
levanderYou know how you can use xvidtune and xrandr to move the X desktop around on the monitor a little?  Anybody know how I can do the same thing with gdm?05:27
LjLragamuffin, what do you mean, you had no graphical user interface? there's something i'm missing here. the Alternate CD has a text-mode only interface; it's got dialogs and all, but it all runs in text-mode. is that what you mean there with "graphical user interface"?05:27
tonyyarussomjr: Aah.  perfect05:27
protocol1.tgz file05:27
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gpledRossW: i would run memtest after that.  you do it the same way05:27
RossWgpled: its a partition on my hard drive, fat32 format which i created so that both linux and windows can access05:27
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ragamuffinLjL: I am confused05:27
LjLUbotu, please tell protocol1 about tar | protocol1, you have a private message from Ubotu05:27
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mamzers555protocol1; man tar05:27
ragamuffinthen I must have named my cds wrongly05:28
LjLragamuffin, in other words, if you have a Gnome desktop when you load your Alternate CD, then it's not the Alternate CD :-D05:28
RossWgpled: my other partition is ok which is my actual windowsXP install partition that has the correct name (WindowsXP)05:28
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gpledRossW: make sure you install windows before ubuntu05:28
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RossWi did05:28
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ragamuffinLjL: I had the options, 1. graphical 2. safe graphical etc05:28
RossWgpled: i formatted the partition in windows05:28
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nox-HandHey05:29
RossWgpled: also tryed formatting in linux05:29
ragamuffinbut the dekstop version had oem etc05:29
LjLragamuffin: that looks like the Desktop CD, not the Alternate CD. the Alternate will just process to a text-mode install05:29
gpledRossW: you got me on this one.  i have never seen anything like that.  6.06 is real stable05:29
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nox-HandWhats the 6.10 kernel image name? Like, 606 was Casper05:29
RossWgpled: i tried googling and no results on my problem05:29
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LjLragamuffin: i don't know about OEM05:29
harryfatherwhen i try to boot edgy i386 on my dual-core gateway, it doesnt recognize the cd drive05:29
RossWgpled: could it be the acutal name that im using for the mount?05:29
mamonassassinaGod.can someone help me out with that in a private conversation?05:29
gpledRossW: is their a LUG near you?05:29
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RossWgpled: LUG?05:30
gpled!LUG05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about LUG - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
mamonassassinai am having lots of problems with amsn.05:30
gpledLinux User Group LUG05:30
harryfatherit asks to load the modules from a floppy or a cdrom05:30
RossWi dont know, just my pc has linux on it05:30
gpledhttp://www.linux.org/groups/05:30
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RossWno there isnt one near me05:31
LjLragamuffin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions <- if it looks like this, it's the Desktop CD, not the Alternate CD05:31
nox-HandAnyone?05:31
boink!ask05:31
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:31
saquibI have an AMD64 3500+ (K8) CPU.. im currently using the 386 kernel, would using the K7 kernel give me better performance???05:32
mamonassassinaok,now i downloaded tcl and tk 8.5 from a .tar.gz05:32
nox-Hand!ask kernel name 6.1005:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask kernel name 6.10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:32
mamonassassinai try tar -vzxf on it and...05:32
nox-HandSee, noone know..05:32
mamonassassinagzip: stdin: not in gzip format05:32
mamonassassinatar: Child returned status 105:32
LjL!botabuse | nox-Hand05:32
ubotunox-Hand: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)05:32
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nox-HandLjL, Abuse, eh?05:33
nox-HandThanks -_-05:33
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RossWi need serious help concerning a mounted partition, if anybody could help me in private that would be greatly appreciated05:33
nox-HandI was asking it a damn question!05:33
ragamuffinLjL: Ubuntu 6.06 i3, which is it?05:33
mamonassassinanox-Hand: you're the Michael Jackson of the bots.05:33
nox-Handmamonassassina, What the? o_O05:33
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hoppinghello someone please help me on setting up the proxy in terminal, so i can be able to do apt-get update and apt-get install05:33
nox-Handmamonassassina, I just need an answer for my one single question.05:33
mamonassassinanox-Hand: a joke.05:33
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mamonassassinanox-Hand: think about it05:33
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nox-Handmamonassassina, Thanks... I did not abuse it, though!05:34
LjLnox-Hand: using the bot randomly, without knowing if a factoid you ask about actually exists, is abuse. you can find out about the bot in a private query with it05:34
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ragamuffinUbuntu 6.06. 1  i3 exacty05:34
LjLragamuffin: that doesn't tell me much i'm afraid05:34
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RossWLjL: you seem to know quite a bit about ubuntu, could you possibly help me when you have time?05:34
nox-HandLjL, I would disagree. thats not knowing the way of using the bot. Not abuse. Its misuse.05:34
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LjL!bot | nox-Hand05:35
ubotunox-Hand: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:35
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gpledRossW: do you live in Pontypridd?05:35
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LjLnox-Hand: ok - that's why i pointed you to the !botabuse factoid in the first place: it tells you to "Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots"05:35
RossWi live in England05:35
xor_How do I disable the desired sound card, if I have two, one onboard and another PCI?05:35
ragamuffinLjL: yes, the image you pointed corresponds my last tried (and failed) version05:35
gpledRossW: where in England?05:35
nox-HandRight.05:35
pittinox-Hand: ok, 'casper' is a package that creates a live system environment; it has nothing to do with the kernel, or a parituclar Ubuntu version05:36
gpledRossW: see if i can find a lug for you05:36
RossWgpled: rochdale05:36
mamonassassinadoes anyone know where can i GET tcl8.5 and tk8.5?05:36
pittinox-Hand: what do you mean with 'kernel image name'?05:36
RossWgpled: im 14 so it would have to be in walking distance05:36
nox-Handpitti, The liveCD package then.05:36
mamonassassinathere is a thousand people here,someone has to know :P05:36
LjLragamuffin: this is a standard i386 Alternate CD: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso    and this is a Desktop CD: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06.1-desktop-i386.iso05:36
nox-Handpitti, The one required to boot the installer via command line. Instead of casper, what then?05:36
hoppinghello someone please help me on setting up the proxy in terminal, so i can be able to do apt-get update and apt-get install.05:36
saquib I have an AMD64 3500+ (K8) CPU.. im currently using the 386 kernel, would using the K7 kernel give me better performance???05:36
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LjLmamonassassina, not from the repos, since they seem to have only up to 8.4. which, for what i'm concerned, means i would not even attempt to install 8.505:37
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mamonassassinaLjL: hm,so,what i should do is make amsn run with 8.405:37
user-landhow do you remove red eyes from pictures you take ?05:37
mamonassassinaLjL: how? :P05:37
pittinox-Hand: erm, slowly; you have an alternate or desktop CD?05:37
CarinArrhey.. i'm a bit puzzled.. all of a sudden my sound is all very quiet, even when alsamixer, the audio controller in the player, and my speaker controller are both set to full volume05:37
protocol1i love my laptop cooler05:38
CarinArrdoes anyone know what the culprit may be?05:38
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LjLmamonassassina: why not make life simpler and use the packaged version of amsn?05:38
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mamonassassinaLjL: autopackage won't run,and repos have up to 0.9505:38
Doowuser-land: that'd be #gimp on GIMPNet =)05:38
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levanderTo run lm-sensors, I need some module w83627ehf that isn't on my system.  Anybody can tell me where to find it?05:38
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saquib I have an AMD64 3500+ (K8) CPU.. im currently using the 386 kernel, would using the K7 kernel give me better performance???05:38
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user-landthanks, doow, so they finally implemented this feature ?05:39
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LjLmamonassassina: let me give it a crack05:39
PupenoRHello.05:39
Doowuser-land: finally, you have always been able to do it, if you want to do it completely automatically I wouldn't know, but I don't think so05:39
PupenoRDoes anybody know about those service where you can upload and download files without registration ?05:39
Toma-levander: should be in linux-image package... just run 'sudo modprobe w83627ehf'05:39
Toma-PupenoR: no?05:40
Doowuser-land: should be a ? after finally there05:40
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PupenoRToma-: ?05:40
ryanakcashorewall vs fiaif vs uif. Which one do I install05:40
gpledRossW: http://www.linux.org/groups/united_kingdom/england.html05:40
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mamonassassinaLjL: as i told someone on the channel some minutes ago,i ran autopackage but forgot to uninstall the old version from amsn.and autopackage couldn't install.then,i uninstalled amsn with synaptic but it was too late i guess,autopackage won't run anymore05:40
Doowuser-land: either way, #gimp is probably a much better place to ask =)05:40
user-landdoow, i am looking for an easy way to remove red eyes from my albums.05:41
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hoppinghello someone please help me on setting up the proxy in terminal, so i can be able to do apt-get update and apt-get install05:41
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LjLmamonassassina: nice messing up ;)05:41
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gpledRossW: would try to get ahold of one of those lugs.  see if they know someone in your town05:41
mamonassassinaLjL: yeah.05:41
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LjLmamonassassina: uhm, here the ./configure seems to be happy with tcl 8.4 - don't know about the actual make yet05:41
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mamonassassinaLjL: and where did you get it?05:42
Doowuser-land: hmm.. appearantly there's a #gimp-user channel that might be better suited, seems #gimp is for development05:42
gpledRossW: one thing you could try, just as a test.  try installing ubuntu on the whole hard drive with out windows.  see if the problem stays05:42
LjLmamonassassina, i just typed "sudo apt-get build-dep amsn"05:42
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mamonassassinaLjL: oh,and about the autopackage,am i f**ed?05:42
Toma-mamonassassina: youre building amsn too?05:42
mamonassassinaToma-: i built it05:43
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LjLmamonassassina: don't know. i'm not going to try an autopackage, not really05:43
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gpledRossW: did you try and split the hard drive to make room for ubuntu?05:43
Toma-with tk8.5?05:43
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mamonassassinaToma-: with tcl and tk8.505:43
mamonassassinaToma-: look what happened when i tried to run it.05:43
Toma-same ;)05:43
LjLmamonassassina: for the record, i compiled amsn successfully, and it runs05:43
mamonassassinahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33689/05:43
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mamonassassinaLjL: 0.96?05:43
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LjLmamonassassina: yes.05:44
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markstosI've published a comparison of Mandriva 2007 vs. Ubuntu Edgy. Generally, I found Edgy to be better: http://www.richmondcomputes.org/blog/mark/mandriva_2007_vs_ubuntu_edgy05:44
mamonassassinaLjL: with tcl8.4?well,maybe i should point amsn to wish8.4 instead of 8.505:44
user-landthanks doow05:44
Toma-mamonassassina: sounds like your not using the right wish...05:44
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mamonassassinaToma-: yeah05:44
Doowuser-land: np, hope you find a good solution05:44
mamonassassinaLjL: when i got a segmentation fault i did that,but i can't find amsn configuration file anymore.05:45
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LjLmamonassassina: wget http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/amsn/amsn-0.96.tar.bz2 ; tar xf amsn-0.96.tar.bz2 ; cd amsn-0.96/ ; sudo apt-get build-dep amsn ; ./configure ; make ; ./amsn05:45
RossWgpled:no, i formatted the drive, installed windows, created 4 partitions, 1 with windowsXP on formatted in NTFS which i can mount fine but do not wish the write 2, i had 1 fat32 partition which is blank which i am having the strange name thing with and the 2 blank partitions, 1 which i installed ubuntu (formatted in ext3) and the final partition is the linux swap05:45
LjLmamonassassina: this procedure works fine here. not sure exactly how you've tried to complicate your life ;)05:45
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user-landstill i think there a much more ubuntu users looking for this then gimp users, because gimp is neither good for albums nor simple enough for most users.05:45
hoppingsomeone please help me on setting up the proxy in terminal, so i can be able to do apt-get update and apt-get install05:45
Toma-i love compiling fresh + sxc apps like amsn05:45
mamonassassinaLjL: let me try that05:46
LjLhopping: export HTTP_PROXY=whatever05:46
Toma-compiled and runs super here05:46
ryanakcafiaif vs shorewall vs uif vs guarddog vs ferm. Which should I install?05:46
LjLhopping: also, to be sure, export http_proxy=whatever05:46
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hoppingLjL: i did that too, still when i do apt-update it says unable to resolv the urls05:47
spiekeyhello!05:47
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LjLhopping: unable to *resolve*? that seems like a DNS problem. does "nslookup www.google.com" work?05:47
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spiekeyi need to install the zaptel drivers (ztdummy) for timing. Whats the package called?05:47
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LjLUbotu, please tell spiekey about packages | spiekey, you have a private message from Ubotu05:48
RossWgpled: hmm i just discovered something.... with my other drive it displays the size in GB and the says the name i have it mounted as, if i dont have it mounted it just says the size of the drive but with the drive i am struggling with it doesnt say the size of the drive it says "_PNG"05:48
dennisterhello everyone, and especially anyone who could help me with udev rules :)05:48
hoppingLjL: nslookup and ping is blocked by calbe operator, but i set the proxies in firefox working fine05:48
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dennisterlol...not having much luck troubleshooting this here05:49
LjLhopping: i see... but i'm afraid apt-get will still try to use DNS for resolving, even if it's going through a proxy05:49
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spiekey:)05:49
lir1i'm on 2.6.15-27-686, can i remove packages like linux-image-2.6.15-27-386, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-27-386, linux-restricted-modules-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-26-386 ?05:49
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mataharihi05:49
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mataharii have an usb-headset05:49
matahariit works fine05:49
mataharibut05:49
hoppingLjL : can't i update respo and install packages thru gui tool under system --> administrator menu?05:50
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LjLspiekey, well, for a package like that, searching for "zaptel" can hardly fail. if it isn't there when you search at http://packages.ubuntu.com , it probably just means it isn't there05:50
mataharii always have to switch to use it when i boot my computer05:50
LjL!find zaptel05:50
ubotuFound: zaptel, zaptel-source05:50
LjLspiekey: could those above be it?05:50
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mataharii just want that it is used all the time, without setting anything at bootup05:50
LjLhopping: yes, but i guess you'll have the same problem05:50
matahariis this possible? and how?05:50
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hoppingdang05:51
hopping:S05:51
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LjLhopping: are you sure there isn't some local DNS server that you can connect to?05:51
marctti downloaded the mplayer , and got this error while playing it: Opening /dev/dvb/adapter0/audio0 DVB AUDIO DEVICE: No such file or directory05:51
spiekeyhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=zaptel&version=dapper&arch=i386  --> nope :) Not ztdummy in there05:51
marcttwhere can i have this dvb audio device?05:51
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marcttanyone?05:52
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LjLspiekey: then that file's not packaged.05:52
justin_How much space does a default Ubuntu install consume?05:52
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LjLspiekey: look at this however - http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=zaptel-source&version=warty&arch=all&page=2&number=50 - it's there as source05:53
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hoppingLjL i am using home internet cable, on windows for browsing internet we need to set proxies, and for messengers we need to install ISA firewall client, obtaine DNS is auto05:53
LjL(in warty ;)05:53
RossWgpled: you still here?05:53
dennister!udev05:53
ubotuudev: rule-based device node and kernel event manager. In component main, is important. Version 093-0ubuntu18 (edgy), package size 224 kB, installed size 768 kB05:53
LjLhopping: can you pastebin the full output of "sudo apt-get update" please?05:54
gpledRossW: yep, chatting in #gnash05:54
RossWany more ideas?05:54
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hoppingLjL sure where to paste?05:54
LjLUbotu, please tell hopping about paste | hopping, you have a private message from Ubotu05:54
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gpledRossW: are you doing this with 2 hard drives?05:55
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RossW1 hard drive05:55
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hoppingLjL ok wait a sec pls05:55
gpledRossW: i would try the ubuntu only test05:55
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RossWthe what test?05:55
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gpledRossW: just install ubuntu on the whole hard drive.  see if the problem goes away05:56
RossWbut then i wont have anything to mount lol05:56
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mamzers555question: how can i change the volume of the oss-mixer?05:56
mmmmUhm, what happen with the live-cd installer? It doesn't work. It drops me out of X-Window, dont know why... what log can provide me with some useful info?05:56
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mamzers555oss-sound is too loud05:56
mamzers555how can i lower it05:56
RossWits only this partition, the other one mounts fine, no problems05:56
justin_mamzers555: Use Alsamixer gui.05:57
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gpledRossW: how did you make the partitions?05:57
justin_Or the Ansi version, both are good :)05:57
RossWwhen installing windows05:57
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MunchkinguyIn the Launchpad Ubuntu support site, what is the difference between "Answered" and "Solved"05:57
Munchkinguy?05:57
mamzers555justin_; this don't help, cause it is also05:57
mamzers555*alsa05:57
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iterI can do route add default gw 123.123.123.123 to set my gateway05:58
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iterwhere do I set it so it persists through reboots05:58
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mmmmDid anyone get kicked out from gnome to the login window again and again in the new ubuntu?05:58
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hoppingLjL done05:59
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mamzers555where can i set the volume of the oss-sound?05:59
LjLiter: add the line "gateway 123.123.123.123" to the appropriate entry in /etc/network/interfaces - weird gateway by the way =)05:59
LjLhopping: URL please05:59
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iterLjL: ah thanks, should've guessed05:59
_MMA_Hello guys. If I have a issue using the nVidia 9692 drivers in Edgy should I report it? As it might be an issue for Feisty?05:59
mmmmdamn, again! I hate it05:59
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bruenigmmmm, you hate what?06:00
fragalotoi, friend of mine would like to know if he could recover files from his formatted harddisk from the ubuntu livecd?06:00
hoppingLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36693/06:00
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mmmmbruenig: I get kicked out from gnome in the live-cd. I cant install ubuntu.06:00
Nookie!ati06:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:00
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Nookieanyone who can help me out with edgy and ati06:01
bruenigfragalot, the easiest way to do so is to put the ubuntu live cd. Have a usb thumbdrive. Mount the hard disk and then copy files over. IF it is formatted, that could be a big problem. But you could try06:01
LjLhopping: uhm no, doesn't seem... page not found06:01
mmmmI think it maybe something with my video card (voodoo3) but I'm not sure06:01
Nookiehave tryied to install the driver on edgy on 2 computers without success06:01
fragalotbruenig: it's formatted.06:01
fragalotbruenig: but aren't there file recovery programs?06:01
marcttthe problem is that i don t have the dvb audio device06:01
bruenigfragalot, perhaps. None that I know of06:01
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hoppingLjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33693/06:02
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iterhopping: edit /etc/resolv.conf06:02
hoppingi did06:02
mamonassassinaLjL: i did exactly what you told me to some minutes ago,it took forever to download,but...06:02
mamonassassinaLjL: same tcl error.06:02
hoppingi put my proxy server ip there06:02
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Vaske_Caris there any software that can create/make floppy images???06:03
LjLhopping: ok, try "nslookup www.google.com 212.245.255.2"06:03
Renan_s2Vaske_Car, dd06:03
Renan_s2dd if=/dev/fd0 of=image.img06:03
dadmom06:03
dadi need help06:03
bruenig!info fdutils06:03
ubotufdutils: Linux floppy utilities. In component main, is standard. Version 5.5-20060227-1 (edgy), package size 345 kB, installed size 968 kB06:03
dadtrying to get firefox 2.0 on ubuntu06:04
Vaske_CarRenan_s2, second command is to create image, right?06:05
hoppingshould i paste in pastebin?06:05
LjLUbotu, please tell dad about firefox | dad, you have a private message from Ubotu06:05
LjLhopping: nah just tell me if it's finding an address for google or not06:05
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hoppingLjL no06:07
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Wyvern|hi06:08
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Wyvern|I'm trying to set up my ubuntu server as a samba print server, but can't seem to figure out how to install and setup printer drivers?06:09
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fnfWyvern|: The default Ububtu installation tries to include as much driver as possible, so you should find no problem using your printer.06:10
hoppingLjL how to enable sshd service?06:10
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dv5237_hi im looking for a real time CLI based app that helps me 'find' wireless accespoints anyone know a package for ubuntu?06:10
LjLhopping, in Firefox you have "Auto-detect proxy settings for this network", or "Automatix proxy configuration URL"?06:10
LjLhopping: sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:10
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fnfWyvern|: In case it doesn't, you'll need to download/compile the driver for it and load it as a module.06:11
hoppingLjL no in firefoz manual proxy setting06:11
LjLdv5237_: apt-cache search find wireless06:11
Wyvern|Well, the problem is not that my driver is missing, but that I have no clue as of how to start the printer configuration in the first place. :)06:11
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DoowHow do I change what the default program for each filetype in the File Browser is?06:11
Wyvern|all guides seem to be for the windowed version06:11
dv5237_LjL: hehe ok :P06:11
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Wyvern|*desktop version06:12
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fnfWyvern|: What'd you want to setup ? Page size, margin ? etc...06:12
Wyvern|well, as of now I have just connected the printer.06:12
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nilsonI just installed ubuntu-server on my server and I'm trying to install nfs through aptitude06:13
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nilsonIt says that ubuntu-standard must be removed because of dependencies06:13
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Vaske_CarHow to write .img to floppy?06:13
nilsonhow do I fix that06:13
fnfWyvern|: If you have any printing-aware apps handy, try to print something.06:13
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dv5237_LjL: doesnt help :s06:14
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fnfWyvern|: In Ubuntu desktop, these may be Firefox, gedit, OO06:14
LjL!info netdiscover | dv5237_06:14
ubotunetdiscover: active/passive address scanner using arp requests. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3beta6-1 (edgy), package size 128 kB, installed size 380 kB06:14
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Wyvern|uuhm. Lynx? :P06:14
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nilsonAnyone in here installed NFS?06:14
fnfWyvern|: Sure :-p06:14
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Nookie!ati06:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:15
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CoRnJuLiOxhey is there an ubuntu equivalent to the recycle bin?06:16
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Wyvern|fnf: So ubuntu server should just set up and configure the printer the second it's plugged in, all by itself?06:16
nilsonWhy would a package want to remove ubuntu-standard?06:16
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LjLhopping: you could try adding a line like Acquire::http::Proxy "http://address:port/";    to the APT configuration file... i'm not sure which file it is in Ubuntu however =) normally it would be /etc/apt/apt.conf, but Ubuntu has an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d directory06:16
sn9CoRnJuLiOx: it's in the lower right corner of the screen06:16
RossdoktaHello you all...06:16
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LjLmaybe you can add it to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu, but i don't really know if that's a good idea06:16
LjL!ubuntu-desktop | nilson06:17
ubotunilson: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.06:17
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LjLnilson: same reasoning i suppose06:17
groutwhich command would create an ext3 filesystem on a partition?06:17
Nookie!ati06:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:17
sn9grout: mkfs.ext306:17
synicgrout: mke2fs -j06:17
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LjLgrout: mkfs -t ext306:17
synichah.06:17
groutthanks06:17
fnfWyvern|: It should, there may be problem I'm not aware though. If your printer is an USB or compatible device, Linux will automagically recognize, the rest is done by appropriate kernel modules.06:18
RossdoktaI am quite new to Linux, so I wanted to ask you, wich version of Ubuntu I could install on my "good old" PII with 333 Mhz and 64 Ram...06:18
groutnubuntu06:18
Quinn_Stormyou'd want one of the xubuntu distros probably06:18
LjLRossdokta: Ubuntu Server. or perhaps Xubuntu, if you're lucky.06:18
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sn9Rossdokta: 64 ram is the problem06:18
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nilsonLjL, so you think I would be safe to let it remove ubuntu-standard then reinstall it06:18
LjLindeed06:18
groutHow can you check the firmware version of the tape drive installed in a Linux system, without rebooting?06:18
Wyvern|fnf: oh. too simple for me to fathom then ;)06:19
LjLnilson: reinstalling it will result in removing the package that you're now trying to install. which package is it anyway?06:19
dennistergonna try this new udev rule...reboot06:19
nilsondude06:19
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Rossdoktahehe, well, but here dhe SDRAMs are hard to ged.... coz if I would i would use'em06:19
phil7171716.06 Desktop, I installed Samba, do I have to manually edit any files to make it work, or can it all be done from the GUI?06:19
nilsonLjL I Dont know about this06:19
nilsonits removing everything06:19
LjLnilson, which package?06:19
fnfWyvern|: Usually you'll find some logged info in the kern or syslog by the time a new device is plugged in.06:19
groutHow can you check the firmware version of the tape drive installed in a Linux system, without rebooting?06:19
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LjLgrout: that would depend on the drive i suppose06:20
Rossdoktaaha... well I will try with xubuntu.,...06:20
groutLjL its a scsi06:20
Rossdoktathx to you meanwhile...06:20
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LjLRossdokta: use the alternate cd06:20
dv5237_does anyone here know a easy to know CLI based wireless scanning tool?06:20
Rossdoktaok....06:20
groutkismet06:20
sn9Rossdokta: if i couldn't get a machine above 64 ram, i likely wouldn't bother with any version of ubuntu and just install damnsmalllinux06:20
nilsonLjL I'm trying to install NFS on a new install of ubuntu-server and aptitude wants to remove ubuntu-standard06:20
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slick_nickis it just me or do apps in kubuntu eat up a *lot* of memory? I've got 1.25GB of RAM and i've barely ever seen it using less than 1GB06:20
nilsonwhich contains all the base Linux system06:20
nilsonI cant remove that06:20
mp__hmmm. where is the iptables config file stored in Ubuntu?06:21
mp__(when using firestarter)06:21
LjL!sdparm | grout, perhaps this. but i bet it really depends on which specific drive06:21
ubotusdparm: Output and modify SCSI device parameters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98-1 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 324 kB06:21
evadslick_nick: Unlike Windows Linux does not try to use up as little memory as possible - it's use of memory is not a bad thing - whats wrong with using what you have?06:21
Rossdoktabtw, can I ask you, if I would have to use some bash=???? (I am only sure in MSDOS, bash seems really diffferent...06:21
Rossdokta???06:21
LjLnilson, i asked you *which specific package* you are installing.06:21
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slick_nickevad: nothing...except it's using it up just when i have lots of apps open...I haven't actually started using them yet! can't imagine hat things are going to look like when i open up OO.o or something..06:22
nilsonLjL: nfs-kernel06:22
nilsonwhich tries to install nfs-common06:22
nilsonwhich has the conflicting dependency06:22
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LjL!info nfs-kernel | nilson06:22
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ubotuPackage nfs-kernel does not exist in any distro I know06:22
PhuzionI'm using 6.06, how do I get firefox 2.0 to install?06:23
LjLnilson: i suppose it's nfs-kernel-server that you mean?06:23
LjLUbotu, please tell Phuzion about firefox | Phuzion, you have a private message from Ubotu06:23
nilsonyeah I think so06:23
Ayabarahi guys. anyone know of a good mplayer quick reference? I would like to know the most common/significant improvements I can do, but the documentation is just too much for me...06:23
kishanCan any one help is it safe to install ntfs to read write on windows drive06:24
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LjLnilson: do you have either knfs or nfs-server installed? type "apt-cache policy knfs" and "apt-cache policy nfs-server" to know06:24
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sn9Ayabara: such is the nature of mplayer06:24
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sn9!ntfs-3g | kishan06:24
ubotukishan: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171006:24
LjLkishan: to read, yes, to write, not at all06:24
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sn9LjL: WRONG!06:25
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nilsonLjL I have neither06:25
Wyvern|Well, I'm still fighting with this printer. Where in the system are printers "located"? (eg. /dev/printer1 or something like that)?06:25
Ayabarasn9, I know. I use actually use kaffeine and vlc a lot, because I have this fear that my mplayer is badly configured  :-)06:25
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kishanLjL: so u suggest better to not write on ntfs, one more question how can i read linux from windows06:25
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LjL!ext3 | kishan06:26
ubotukishan: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org06:26
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sn9Ayabara: it's easy to badly configure vlc, too06:27
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Ayabarasn9, arghh. now I can only use kaffeine ;-)06:27
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LjLsn9: that was a convincing argument06:28
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vikasati driver help06:28
sn9LjL: re ntfs-3g, or mplayer/vlc?06:28
LjLsn9: "WRONG!"06:28
sn9!ati | vikas06:29
ubotuvikas: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:29
dolphin_anybody know how to install heliodor on ubuntu?06:29
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dv5237_does anyone here know a easy to use CLI based wireless scanning tool?06:29
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sn9LjL: it's just getting tiring to hear ppl still say what you said after all this time of ntfs-3g not causing any problems06:30
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dv5237_does anyone here know a easy to use CLI based wireless scanning tool?06:30
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LjLsn9: not causing problems to *you*, or not causing problems in general?06:30
sn9in general06:30
sn9the very few that have been discovered got fixed as they were discovered06:31
Misnix2too bad about the data06:31
phil7171716.06 Desktop, can Samba be configured in the GUI or do I have to edit files?06:31
Wyvern|Hm. Are there any commandline-wizard for configuring printers (or the rest of the system for that matter) at all in ubuntu-server?06:32
GoClick<rant type="random">Binary drivers are evil!</rant>06:32
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jbroome!swat06:32
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:32
dv_unfortunately, you have to edit the files06:32
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Wyvern|or is everything based around apt-get and config files?06:32
Roger_The_Bumooh06:32
dv_swat is a pain to set up06:32
Roger_The_Bumthat seems nice06:32
jbroomeahh, didn't mention easy of setup, just asked if it could be done with a gui. :)06:32
GoClickI'm suprised there isn't a decent free GUI GNOME config editor for SAMBA I can't imagine it'd be overly hard to write....06:32
phil717171Thanks!06:32
dv_well, if you already need a web server, swat might be for you06:33
dv_otherwise...06:33
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bruenigGoClick, you should write one06:33
fouratHello all06:34
GoClickIt's not like it's a hard config to edit tho... pretty pleased with the config format for SAMBA06:34
dv_well it can be hard06:34
bruenig!gu | fourat06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:34
bruenig!hi | fourat06:34
ubotufourat: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:34
dv_getting the permissions to work can be a real pain06:34
GoClickbruenig I'm too busy, and maybe that's the problem is that it's too easy of a config and anyone who could write one is too busy to bother making something so easy, easier06:34
fouratbruenig, greetings :)06:34
dv_as well as the issue with different charsets06:34
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Roger_The_Bumutf-8 ?06:35
dv_oh yes. utf-8 in windows06:35
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Kenashi to all06:35
bruenig!hi | Kenas06:35
ubotuKenas: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:35
Wyvern|By the way; is the software raid controller in ubuntu capable of expanding and rebuilding itself into an additional disk if you feel like expanding it?06:35
Roger_The_Bum!hi | ubotu06:35
ubotuubotu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!06:35
dv_the funny thing is that windows causes NO trouble with the umlauts06:35
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dv_but linux does06:36
mydaniHi all. Is there a mac-like panel for gnome? :D06:36
GoClick"Using Samba" by Robert Eckstein, David Collier-Brown and Peter Kelly is available fopr free online at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/06:36
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bruenigmac-like, meaning a dock menu?06:36
Roger_The_Bummydani: I'm fairly sure I saw it in the themes menu06:36
mydaniyeah, right06:36
fouratOpenoffice does not start on my edgy, it splash the splashscreen for some 2 seconds and then close down06:36
Roger_The_Bumoh06:36
mydaniI'll try to complete my beryl-look - and such a panel is really necessary06:36
GoClickMac didn't come up with the idea of a doc....06:36
dv5237_does anyone here know a easy to use CLI based wireless scanning tool?06:36
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dv_mydani, you use beryl?06:37
mydanidv_, yepp06:37
dv_do you have an nvidia card?06:37
dv_-n06:37
mydaniyes06:37
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fouratdv5237, iwlist06:37
dv_do you run GL apps in beryl?06:37
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mydaninvidia beta drivers without xgl/axgl06:37
dv_I tried, but the system freezes after a while06:37
mydanidv_, I do and it worked the last 36h06:37
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dv_without beryl its all fine06:37
fouratOpenoffice does not start on my edgy, it splash the splashscreen for some 2 seconds and then close down06:38
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dv_I mean I can run beryl perfectly as long as I dont fire up complex GL apps using framebuffer objects or similar06:38
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Roger_The_Bumisn't beryl alpha?06:38
dv_yeah06:38
dv_but this seems more like a nvidia bug to me06:38
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Roger_The_Bum<insert nvidia binary driver tirade here>06:38
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Roger_The_Bum</insert>06:39
dv_since they changed substantial parts of their core, I guess this is still a bit shaky06:39
finalbetafourat, start by running it from the commandline and see what error it gives you.06:39
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dv_but hey.... for me there is no alternative since I do code a lot with pixel shaders etc.06:39
fouratfinalbeta, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/7311906:39
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agentanyone use ibm-acpi applet?06:40
finalbetafourat, can't help. sry06:40
lir1If I'm on 2.6.15-27-686 can I remove packages like linux-386 linux-headers-686 linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386 ?06:40
LjLlir1: you should be able to do that without problems, yes06:40
mydaniso does such a docking bar exist?06:40
LjLlir1: wait, not linux-headers-68606:41
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lir1LjL: i have like a whole bunch of stuff which I think I don't need regarding my kernel..06:41
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LjLlir1: i'd start by removing linux-image-2.6.15*-38606:41
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lir1LjL: there's a short list here, http://pastebin.ca/256806 can you check it out?06:42
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lir1LjL: as I said before I'm on linux-image-2.6.15-27-68606:42
Dov3kanyone know of the repository for Beryl on Ubuntu edgy?06:42
LjLUbotu, please tell Dov3k about beryl | Dov3k, you have a private message from Ubotu06:43
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LjLlir1, first i'd make sure "linux-686" is installed. the whole package. then remove all the linux-image packages that end with -386 -- the rest i guess will be removed automatically06:43
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lir1LjL: and regarding the linux-restricted-modules?06:44
LjLlir1: think it'll be removed automatically when you remove the images06:44
bunnythebunnyHey guys, do KDE programs have compatibility issues with GNOME?06:44
dv_no06:44
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lir1LjL: Ok, let's check :)06:44
dv_well,06:44
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dv_obviously kde programs cannot make use of gnomevfs06:45
ivoksdefine compatibility issues06:45
dv_and vice versa06:45
dv_but thats the only thing I can think of right now06:45
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bunnythebunnyWell, for example, i got various kde based guitar software, and they don't work properly. They get in, but the terminal gives me some odd errors and..06:46
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lir1LjL: ok I'm left with the 26-686/386 which I'll keep for now as backup...06:46
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bunnythebunnyI don't know.06:47
LjLlir1: well at least one backup is probably a good idea06:47
lir1LjL: yeap, thanks.06:47
ivoksif programs works, just ignore errors :)06:47
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bunnythebunnyIt gets in -- but it doesn't do what its supossed to...but that may be cause i haven't got the guitar identified, or i don't know.06:47
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hagg1anyone sitting on a snazzy command to show info about my memory (hardware)?06:50
bunnythebunnyivoks, do you know if i need to somehow identify my guitar in the program?06:50
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Epiloghi there06:50
bunnythebunnyhello06:50
ivoksbunnythebunny: no, i don't use such programs06:50
EpilogI'm getting some problems in ooffice06:50
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Epilog** (process:29741): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...06:51
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Epiloganyone knows a solution?06:51
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rogue780anyone know of a way to get a radeon 7000 to work with ubuntu?06:51
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bunnythebunnyivoks :( but do you know how you can identify it at least? say, like, as a device. find it as a device.  for example if you want to find your audio card you just go lspci | grep audio (something like that) ...06:51
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ivoksbunnythebunny: how did you connect your guitar?06:52
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EpilogCan't get libc6 (>= 2.4-1), in witch repository is it?06:52
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bunnythebunnyivoks, its using the ...line in thingy of my computers soundcard06:52
twotoneI am attempting to install flashplayer for firefox but I am not understanding at all how to do it. (I have no experience with linux06:53
ivoksbunnythebunny: well, then i don't know; program should detect it06:53
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Spechagg1: free -m06:53
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Spechagg1: cat /proc/meminfo06:53
finalbetaanyone knows what package notify-send is supossed to belong to? It should be installed by default when using notification deamon or somthing. But it's not.06:53
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Spechagg1: htop (apt-get install htop), or top06:53
twotoneI am attempting to install flashplayer for firefox but I am not understanding at all how to do it. (I have no experience with linux06:53
bunnythebunnyivoks, alright alright, i'll just have a deeper look into it thanks anyway :)06:53
stalefriesfinalbeta: you can search synaptic for that, I think06:53
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stojanceHow do I add a new keyboard shotcut, or change the existing one. I need to change the music player multimedia key not to respond to Rhythmbox, but to Banshee? How do I do this?06:54
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Celldwellermy idiot friend who has no clue what the hell he was doing because apparently ubuntu is a friggen playtoy to him.. he screwed up the x server configurations\06:54
Celldwellerand i cannot put them back06:54
alecjwCelldweller: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:54
Celldwelleri made a file06:54
Celldwellercopied it06:54
Celldwellerand put the right ones06:54
Celldwellerbut i cant write to it because i have no permissions06:54
finalbetastalefries, can't find it. Already did.06:54
Celldwellerand i do not know the bash shell commands to do it06:54
stojanceCan someone help?06:55
LileDevilhello all, can anyone advise me on which newsreader I could use best for binaries, feel free to pm06:55
alecjwCelldweller: sudo cp <input file> <output file>06:55
twotoneI am attempting to install flashplayer for firefox but I am not understanding at all how to do it. (I have no experience with linux) Could I get some help installing this?06:55
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stojancetwotone: Which flsh player? What Distro?06:55
Celldwellertnx alecjw06:55
strabestwotone: sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla flashplugin flashplugin-nonfree06:55
Celldwellerlemme try that06:55
dcwChrisgoodbye all06:56
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hagg1thanks Spec06:56
twotoneflash player 706:56
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stojancetwtone: Use nine. It's new. and only one file!06:56
stojancelabs.adobe.com06:56
twotonestojance: so what do i do to install it?06:57
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lir1I believe my cpu frequency scaling is working but in /proc/cpuinfo the state of the "cpu MHz" doesn't change, it keeps always the same mhz number of the max cpu (1660), is this normal?06:57
mat1hello, i cant get my p4 2.53ghz to boot after i cklick enter on 1 or 2 both get this msg  Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294 ove and over then restarts06:57
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stojancetwotone: wait a bit...06:57
twotonestojance: ok06:58
stojancetwotone: Here. Unpack the tar.gz file06:58
Celldwellerok i must log out to reboot06:58
Celldwellerbrb06:58
phil7171716.06 Desktop & Samba,  Hi again, I do see that the GUI is editing the text files!  In the GUI go to System -> Administration -> Shared Folders.  If you make changes here it effects etc/samba/smb.conf.06:58
strabeswhat should we do with the .so file?06:58
MsClockUBUNTU!!!06:58
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Celldwellerim remote desktoppinglol06:59
MsClockPENISCola06:59
Celldwellerbrb06:59
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hagg1Spec: I was thinking of like make and model, especially the PC#####'ers06:59
stojancetwotone: Do that by right clicking the file and selecting Extract Here06:59
twotonestojance: one sec06:59
strabesstojance: i have untar'd the flash 9 tar.gz file06:59
strabesstojance: what should I do with the .so file06:59
twotonestojance: ok07:00
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justin_stojance: Copy it to your mozilla libs file ;)07:00
stojancestrabes: Open terminal and write sudo nautilus /usr/lib/firefox/plugins07:00
strabesi use swiftfox07:00
rogue780anyone know of a way to get a radeon 7000 to work with ubuntu?07:00
stojanceI know that!07:00
strabesso would it be in /opt/swiftfox?07:00
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justin_directory I mean, but if you are are copying flash 9... oh I would wait because umm.. Flash 9 tends to make some systems unstable to the point of being windows 95 a.07:00
MsClockIs Ubuntu really the best Distro for me?07:00
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MsClockIt sounds cool, but I dislike the forums attatched to it.07:01
stojancestrabes: I have no experience with swiftfox07:01
justin_Rememeber if your system gets buggy after when browsing Flash 9 is an EARLY beta :)07:01
stojancetwotone07:01
strabesok thanks07:01
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twotonestojance: yes?07:01
MsClockThey are moderated too strictly and I don't feel I can be myself there, which defeats the point of the "Ubuntu" philosophy07:01
phil717171Samba must be running and somewhat configured.  My windows box sees my ubuntu box in the workgroup.  i just cant browse the share?07:01
justin_strabes: It does not matter -- it uses the same folder to check for flash.07:01
stojancetwotone: did you do that?07:01
MsClockI got banned for 3 weeks just because a mod misread something I posted,a nd it took hours to get them to reverse it.07:01
twotoneit is unpacked07:01
MsClockI'm not so gone on trigger happy mods.07:01
MsClockIs there a linux distro with a more lenient community, that is easy to use also?07:01
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xjih78hi everyone07:02
justin_MsClock: What do you mean a more lenient community?07:02
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xjih78having some problem with iconv07:02
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justin_MsClock: This is as friendly as it gets in term of Linux'es.. haha seriously..07:02
stojancetwotone: open the folder and copy the .xpt and .so files07:02
AranelPut the .so file for the Flash plugin in ~/.mozilla/plugins/ (if it doesn't exist, create it). That way, you don't have to do anything as root, so it's easier.07:02
sn9rogue780: i'll try to help you in #xorg07:02
xjih78$ iconv -f UTF-8 -t WINDOWS-1251 brum07:02
xjih78iconv: illegal input sequence at position 007:02
MsClockjustin, the ubuntu linux boards07:02
MsClockthe actual forums07:02
flujanguys, please take a look at: http://pastie.caboo.se/2424807:02
MsClockI find them quite restrictive07:02
flujani am trying to configure a router07:02
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flujanI assign a vitual IP on the eth3 interface07:03
mat1hello, i cant get my p4 2.53ghz to boot after i cklick enter on 1 or 2 both get this msg  Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294 ove and over then restarts i realy want help07:03
flujanso I have ip 192.168.3.1 on eth3:007:03
MsClockIF I feel like acting a little silly, that's part of my personality. It shouldn't becensored. But that's the feeling I get.07:03
twotonestojance: done07:03
flujanbut I cannot ping the 192.168.3.2 machine07:03
MsClockLike, they won't let me say "Fack"07:03
justin_MsClock: Well I don't know you could always try to the Mepis forums I guess, but the Linux community in general.. is quite RTFM.07:03
MsClockas in Fackin' like a Master07:03
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MsClockRTFM :/07:03
MsClockThat sucks07:03
MsClockI hate Ms.07:03
MsClockThey're so big and long07:03
MsClocknot unlike a fackin' big penis07:03
MsClockheh heh heh07:04
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bruenig!enter07:04
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.07:04
flujanthe 192.168.3.2 machine cant ping 192.168.3.1 too07:04
justin_MsClock: Well umm, because the Ubuntu community is family based.. and yeah fack could always be misinterpreted.07:04
justin_MsClock: Anyways this conversation should be in ubuntu-offtopic.07:04
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MsClockReally..? It's about Ubuntu, just the community as opposed to the actual technical side.07:04
bruenig!offtopic07:04
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!07:04
twotonestojance: now what?07:05
stojancetwotone: now open terminal and write sudo nautilus /usr/lib/firefox/plugins  , the in the window that will show slightly after that paste the files there and close the window. Then start/restart firefox so the changes can take effect07:05
MsClock"Family" based makes it sound like only certain people should be using the distro to begin with.07:05
justin_MsClock: Well this is for Ubuntu itself, not a discussion about the community -- its about the software, and the technical side.07:05
MsClockHmm07:05
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mat1can any one help me?07:05
twotonestojance: awesome. Thank you.07:05
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stojanceTest it?07:05
twotoneabout to07:06
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stojanceok07:06
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J_Phi all07:06
marinhi07:06
twotonestojance: you rock! Thank you so much!07:06
J_Ppeople, I have one Pentium IV D, what ubuntu I install: 6.10-server-i386 or 6.10-server-AMD64 ?07:06
bruenig!hi | J_P07:06
ubotuJ_P: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!07:06
bruenigi386 I would think07:07
stojanceThank you very much twotone. If you have any problems just ask07:07
stojance:D07:07
dfgashow do i copy files from one drive to another and when fails to copy, it just skips it and goes on07:07
mat1exscue me i want help here!!!07:07
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bruenigdfgas, what do you mean it skips it. What sort of error output does it give you07:07
Jager[ZZzz] Hi07:07
marinexcuse but I have a question about aMSN 0.96 released, someone have aMSN 0.96 released ?07:07
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stojancemarin: ask07:07
apokryphos!helpme07:07
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:07
Jager-Im having a weird problem trying to partition my hdd so that i can install linux...07:07
dfgasbruenig: its a bad harddrive07:08
marinok, I'm French so I don't speak very good English ;)07:08
Jager-it says it passes everything else (file checking) but then fails at resizing the hdd..07:08
mat1hello, i cant get my p4 2.53ghz to boot after i cklick enter on 1 or 2 both get this msg  Unknown interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060 c0100295 00000294 ove and over then restarts07:08
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bruenig!fr | marin07:08
ubotumarin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:08
Jager-i have the error log it created if anyone would like to see it07:08
dfgasbruenig: trying to save some of my mp3s07:08
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marinok07:08
marinthanks07:08
bruenigcorrupted hard drive, can't help you there07:08
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Misnixmarin, sorry, still running amsn 0.95 here07:08
justin_mat1: Check your ram.07:08
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Jager-you talking to me bruenig?07:08
dfgasbruenig: i am using mc now, but it give me 2 screens, skip and delete to go to next file07:08
mat1kk07:08
bruenigJager-, no07:08
Jager-okay07:09
Jager-would someone look at this log - http://www.originalwebconcepts.com/Whatever/gparted_details.htm07:09
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J_Pbruenig: ok, but pentium D is not 64 bits ?07:09
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mat1do the whole test?07:09
justin_That is usually caused by faulty RAM, whereas Windows will continue most of the time until it ends up putting something in the bad RAM address, Linux will stop right away before it boots if it detects bad ram.07:09
stojanceNow can someone help me. How do I replace the main hotkey command for Music Player, not to start Rhythmbox but Banshee07:09
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mat1justin_: run the whole test?07:09
justin_mat1: Yes, get a RAM tester -- that is most likely a bad ram error. --07:09
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frogzoostojance: prefs -> kb shortcuts07:10
LjLjustin_, mat1: there is a fine RAM tested on the Ubuntu CD (Memtest++) - it can be started by booting the CD and selecting the memory testing option07:10
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mat1justin_: i'm using the memtest+8607:10
stojancefrogzoo: I know, but it doesn't specify the command to be executed07:10
justin_LjL: Whatever one :)07:11
justin_Just get one07:11
LjLjust mentioning07:11
bruenigJ_P, don't think so. Wikipedia certainly doesn't indicate that it is. Even if it were 64 bit, it would still run the i386.07:11
LjLmemtest is probably among the best ones around07:11
justin_mat1: Do the full test, it will take some time -- but it will be worth it to know if you have bad ram, it will save you time -- and frustration.07:11
bruenigJ_P, oh wait, yes it does, I was on the wrong article. It is 64 bit07:11
mat1justin_: cd boots up fine buth wen i boot the enter to ubuntu or install it just wont go in07:11
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LjLwell, *don't* do the full test if you're using memtest, because that will probably take days ;-) just let it run for... a while07:12
guidenhow long will it take untill everyone has migrated over to 64 bit processors?07:12
bruenigJ_P, it should still be backwards compatible to i386. So then you can choose which you want07:12
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sbarnhello could someone tell me wth ubuntu moved the /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware directory?07:12
Jager-could saomeone help me?07:12
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mat1justin_: so i might have bad ram?07:12
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justin_mat1: I'd say with 90% certainty that is your problem -- bad ram, or bad slots.07:12
frogzoostojance: configuration editor - look under metacity settings07:12
mat1justin_: kk thnx07:13
stojanceHow can I change Banshee as my Default Music Player not Rhythmbox07:13
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stojancefrogzoo: That doesn't work, Ubuntu must be broken there07:13
Jager-arg...07:13
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bratmanwelcome07:13
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Jager-coould someone help me?07:14
frogzoostojance: did you logout/backin after changing setting?07:14
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bratmanwith what07:14
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Jager-Well, i asked but here07:14
Jager-http://www.originalwebconcepts.com/Whatever/gparted_details.htm07:14
stojancefrogzoo: I have tried everything! nothing works07:14
Jager-thats the gparted log07:14
Jager-i cant seem to resize my hdd to install linux07:14
frogzoostojance: configuration editor - look under metacity settings07:14
bhearsumi read a dcoument recently that described how to setup a combination of gdm/vnc/xdmcp that would let a user connect via vnc, login via gdm and launch a *new* vnc server for the desktop. the idea behind is it to make it a multi-user terminal07:14
bhearsumdoes anyone know where i can find this document?07:14
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KvekI need some help please07:15
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stojanceKvek: Ask07:15
stojance!hlpme07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hlpme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
stojance!helpme07:15
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:15
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Jager-!helpme07:15
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Kveki'm trying to install the live cd of Ubuntu 6.06 on my laptop but during the processes it freezes07:16
AranelAt what point?07:16
Jager-I can't resize my hdd so that I can install linux... here is the log http://tinyurl.com/y95xvq someone please help...07:16
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stojanceKvek: how much ram u have?07:16
Kvekwait 107:17
Kvekplease07:17
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[eLD] Nuggyhello, ive a problem if anyone can help =)07:17
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AranelLet's hear it07:17
GoClickStupid Youtube Beryl is all people wanna ear about these days...07:17
frogzoo!helpme | [eLD] Nuggy07:17
ubotu[eLD] Nuggy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:17
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[eLD] NuggyInstalling ubuntu, it starts coping files gets to 42% then freezes07:17
GoClickOh never mind I was reading back buffer stupid me07:17
[eLD] Nuggythen nothing =O07:17
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AranelLiveCD, or alternate installer?07:17
[eLD] Nuggywell the iso I just downloaded off their site07:18
frogzoo[eLD] Nuggy: tried disabling acpi ?07:18
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KvekI don't have th alternate installer07:18
Jager-arg :( anybody know whats causing my problem or am i just being ignored?07:18
[eLD] Nuggyno havent event checked if its on07:18
frogzoo!fixinstall07:18
ubotuFor a few common problems when installing, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall also make sure you have read !install07:18
[eLD] Nuggywould that cause a problem?07:18
stojanceHOW DO I make Banshee my default Music Player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:18
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stojance?????????07:18
LjLstojance: one question mark is enough, thanks07:18
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[eLD] Nuggyill go see if its on in my bios07:18
[eLD] Nuggybtw im a complete linux noob07:19
frogzoostojance: go try the config editor and pls stop spamming07:19
[eLD] Nuggynever ran it before07:19
Jager-can I get any help here?07:19
[eLD] Nuggyill go check my bios, back in a bit =)07:19
stojancefrogzoo: It doesn't work!07:19
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frogzoo!doesn't work07:19
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.07:19
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Jager-Ive asked my question a dozen times.. never get a repsone from anyone...07:19
sod75it is a bit hectic here....07:20
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[eLD] NuggyFrom the installer's boot prompt, enter07:20
[eLD] Nuggylinux acpi=off07:20
CheticWhy do applications take a really really long time to start up?07:20
Spee_Der!more beer07:20
mat1man i have 1gb ram:P taking a long time but i got check it07:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about more beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:20
[eLD] Nuggywheres the installers boot prompt?07:20
LjLJager-: run a checkdisk and a defrag on your NTFS filesystem before trying again07:20
Spee_Dero07:20
LjL!botabuse | Spee_Der07:20
ubotuSpee_Der: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)07:20
sethkJager-, people join and leave all the time.  for example, I don't know what you asked07:20
bruenigChetic, perhaps you have a low end computer07:20
Jager-Okay I did chkdsk /f and now ill do defrag07:20
Cheticbruenig, It wasn't like this a few days ago. And I know I don't!07:20
sethkJager-, but it sounds like you got an answer  :)07:20
Jager-Yes, finally, thank you :)07:20
Aranel[eLD] Nuggy: I believe you need to press F1 or something like that to get a boot prompt. I haven't used the installer in awhile.07:21
sethkJager-, although I'm having difficulty imagining what defragging is going to do here.07:21
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Jager-someone suggested it07:21
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IRC__how do i launch gparted?07:21
sethkJager-, yes, I know.  to solve what problem?07:21
[eLD] Nuggyis that the first screen booting from the cd Aranel?07:21
Jager-read this log, http://tinyurl.com/y95xvq07:21
Jager-it cant resize the hdd07:22
AranelYes07:22
[eLD] Nuggyok07:22
Jager-thats the only place it fails07:22
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Pensacolahow to install a 386 kernel in edgy?07:22
LjLsethk, i'm not so familiar with parted and NTFS resizing. however, i've heard many times that if the NTFS FS is fragmented, parted may not be able to shrink it enough. and since he wasn't getting any answers...07:22
[eLD] Nuggywell if im back in a bit it hasnt worked. If im back after a long while its installed and ive got irc running. Thanks Aranel :)07:22
bruenig!info linux-image-38607:23
AranelGood luck!07:23
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB07:23
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IRC__how do i launch gparted on my computer07:23
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Jager-I might as well do a defrag, no harm in that07:23
sethkJager-, you are simply trying to resize your partition too much, given the data on it.  remember that there is file system overhead, and you can't shrink it to a size that's the same as the "used" space.07:23
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nuIf i downloaded a dont, which dir do i put it in to use it?07:23
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sethkJager-, no, I suppose it won't hurt anything, but it won't get you very far.07:23
Jager-Its not. the used space takes up like 56gb07:24
Jager-i tried making the whole thing about 64gb07:24
afiefEvery time i try to burn a DVD i get an unhandled error. what should i do?07:24
bruenigIRC__, generally it is located in system>administration>gnome partition editor, or you can just type gksudo gparted to run it from the terminal07:24
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sethkJager-, the log you pointed me at says "spacee in use, 61088mb"07:24
CheticWhy do applications take a really long time to start up for me? It wasn't like this a couple of reboots (and days) ago :(07:24
Jager-gparted recommend that i resize it ever smaller07:24
justin_How much space does the default Ubuntu install consume?07:24
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frogzooafief: first check you have a large enough tmp space, then try burning slower07:24
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justin_Is it 2 gigs?07:24
Jager-arg xD07:24
justin_or 4..07:24
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bruenigjustin_, I think they say 2 gigs minimum, might be 3 gigs now07:25
Kvekwhat do i need Ram wise07:25
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=== justin_ wonders where all of his space is going!
RaiderXi need help with installing the rar package07:25
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frogzooKvek: need 256, but more is preferable07:25
KvekI have that07:25
Jager-where in the log do you see that sethk?07:25
RaiderXi downloaded rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz07:25
sethkJager-, just search for "space in use"07:26
justin_Is there a tool native to Ubuntu that can list directories by size ... --- keep in mind that I use Xubuntu --- so Nautilus = no n.07:26
Jager-oh.. okay i see it07:26
RaiderXwhere do i put the rar folder?07:26
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afieffrogzoo: i got a 9.2 GB free on my root, and already burn at 2X, the error occures before any burning starts07:26
Jager-i wonder why gpart is showing me ~56gb then..07:26
dfgashow long should fsck on a 40gig take?07:26
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frogzoojustin_: you might like filelight07:26
justin_RaiderX: It will create it automatically --- tar -xvf 'filename'07:26
justin_frogzoo: Filelight? can list dir contents by size?07:26
Jager-it shows me just what windows shows me.. does gpart calculate space in a differnet base or something crazy?07:27
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sethkJager-, that I don't know, I don't use it.07:27
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bunnythebunnyDoes anyone know where i can get rpm2cpio?07:27
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frogzoojustin_: sorry, thought you meant directory size - what's wrong with ls -l ?07:27
eNons3nsei'm having problems searching for wireless networks.  in the Networking config menu it doesn't show any networks in the area even though I'm positive there are a few, one in the same room even.07:27
ripperjustin try du -h /path/to/directory07:28
sod75RaiderX: just try installing "unrar" from the repository07:28
alecjwhow do i reset the config for my gnome panels?07:28
Kvekthe reason i'm trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 is i'm tired of win 9807:28
Jager-Well then in that case, ill go try to resize it to like 67 gb or something07:28
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Celldwellerthanks alecjw07:28
sethkJager-, try it.  it will tell you, at least, whether size is the root of the problem, or not.07:28
nuKvek: what problem(s) are you having?07:28
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bunnythebunnyanyone? rpm2cpio?07:28
Jager-Oh one more thing, how can I get my wireless adapter (Netgear MA101) working with ubuntu?07:28
RaiderXjustin_  ive been trying that, but for some reason, even as the root user, i get an error saying that i cant change ownership o.O07:28
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eNons3nsemy wireless was working fine a couple weeks ago.  it found everything automatically.  now it doesn't do that and wont give me any options for networks in the area.07:28
Celldwellerworked perfectly07:28
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Kvekit freezes during the installation process07:28
frogzoobunnythebunny: why not alien ?07:28
justin_RaiderX: Really? weird, perhaps you can try a chmod u+x on the file07:29
afieffrogzoo: any way i can identify the problem?07:29
justin_ripper: du -h is too cryptic07:29
alecjwplease help me, this is important!07:29
nuKvek: do you know which part?07:29
bunnythebunnyfrogzoo, well i want to use this klik program and it keeps asking me for rpm2cpio to download a file.07:29
frogzooafief: strace might give more info, or try a different burning prog07:29
pequatrehello. expr 2 * 3 tells me there's a syntax error. What's the pb ? (sorry if i'm dumb)07:29
nuKvek: usually it says what it's doing07:29
sethkRaiderX, you tried    sudo chown whatever filename?07:29
bruenig!manners07:29
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:29
Kvekyeah Configuring power managment07:29
frogzoobunnythebunny: just a sec07:29
bunnythebunnyfrogzoo, alright.07:30
sethkbunnythebunny, what about rpm2cpio?07:30
afieffrogzoo: already tried the nautilus built in and gnomebaker. how do i use strace?07:30
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LjLpequatre: try "expr 2 \* 3"07:30
bunnythebunnysethk, i need to get in order to get klik working07:30
bunnythebunnyget it in order*07:30
LjLpequatre: i guess the shell is interpreting the "*" as a wildcard07:30
pequatreLjL, right :)07:30
sethkbunnythebunny, so install it.07:30
RaiderXsethk i get "chown: missing operand after `rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz'"07:30
justin_ripper: Because instead of being able to delete and browse contents, I have to memorize all of the big folders and such.. --- and of course it's nice to know simply the "size" but without knowing all the contents I could be deleting the wrong stuff.07:30
eNons3nseare there problems with wireless network discovering in linux?07:30
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bunnythebunnysethk, can't find it in the repositories and google isn't telling much either07:30
sethkRaiderX, you entered the command incorrectly.07:30
pequatreLjL, thx i didn't think of that07:30
RaiderXthis si what i tried:  sudo chown rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz07:31
justin_RaiderX: :p its a Gzip -- you have to gzip it first I believe07:31
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sethkRaiderX, plus you don't want to change the ownership of the tar file07:31
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Kvekany ideas on what i can do ?07:31
frogzoobunnythebunny: install pkg 'rpm'07:31
sethkjustin_, tar has a built in convenience feature where you can directly untar from a gzip'd file using z07:31
RaiderXgzip it? o.o07:31
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sethkRaiderX, no, that's not the problem07:31
justin_sethk: Yeah, I just realized that now07:31
RaiderXok07:31
justin_What does "." represent in du -h ---- my home folder?07:32
sod75justin_: current folder07:32
sethkRaiderX, changing the ownership of the tar file doesn't accomplish anything07:32
Terminusjustin_: the current directory. ie, the one that pwd displays.07:32
bunnythebunnyfrogzoo, what do you mean?07:32
RaiderXok, well then what should i do?07:32
sethkRaiderX, particularly, it doesn't change the ownership of the files within the archive07:32
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justin_Alright, du -h is not what I need.. useless ..07:32
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sethkRaiderX, first, extract the files07:32
MorrisseyHi! I have a ATI Radeon 9000 with fglrx drivers. When I am not running Xgl, I get everything ok from "fglrxinfo" and "glxgears" and DRI is enabled ... but when I log into my xgl verything is very slow, I can see no effects and I get from "glxgears": "Xbfree86-DRI missing on display 1:0" :( Any ideas?07:32
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nuKvek: usually it says what it's doing07:32
nuIf i downloaded a dont, which dir do i put it in to use it?07:32
RaiderXi have extracted them07:32
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nua font*07:32
sethkjustin_, if you want the space used by the entire tree, use du -sh07:33
LjLUbotu, please tell nu about fonts | nu, you have a private message from Ubotu07:33
sethkRaiderX, ok.  is this a source archive?07:33
pequatrenow can anyone help me with this one: `sed -n `expr $i + 4`"p" test.txt | awk -F\" '{print$ 2}'` the problem is the nested " ` " are not parsed correctly. anyone knows how to do ?07:33
Kvekyeah it goes through the ok bit but gets stuck on the configuring power managment07:33
RaiderXno, binary07:33
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sethkpequatre, you use   $(whatever) instead of `whatever`07:33
bunnythebunnyfrogzoo, i know how to install packages (well i don't, i use alien to turn them into debs, and then install ), but what i don't know is where to get rpm2cpio.07:33
ripperjustin_ du -h will show the directory size and list it07:33
sethkpequatre, it's a good idea to _never_ use ``, and always use $(...)07:33
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sod75Morrissey: have you started compiz-manager and changed your window manager to xompiz ?07:33
designdreamanyone know of a site such as userscripts but for bash scripts?07:33
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pequatresethk, of course ! i knew it damnit ! thx :)07:34
Morrisseysod75, Im using beryl-manager .. not compiz07:34
Morrisseysod75, do I need compiz instead?07:34
justin_ripper: Still I have to memorize all of it, I want to browse and delete things I know I do not need -- anyways thanks guys, Im going to try Filelight.07:34
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sethkpequatre, np.  `...` is brain dead c shell syntax  :)07:34
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mat1justin_: wat if i boot ubuntu on my other pc that worked with my ram???\07:34
sod75Morrissey:no,  same thing07:34
Morrisseysod75, ok, then yes .. I have started beryl-manager07:34
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Kvekso what can i do?07:35
Morrisseysod75, it doesnt seem to give me the proper 3d acceleration ..07:35
justin_mat1: Should if your ram is good on that PC :) if you still reach an error on another PC -- with the same error code, it could be a bad CD -- the 10% :P07:35
RaiderXsethk?07:35
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sethkRaiderX, I'm confused, because I only caught the end of the discussion.  it's a binary archive?  from where?  is it a program for which no package is available?07:36
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mat1justin_: its not the cd i used it on other pcs worked perfect07:36
sod75Morrissey: change your window manager vie Beryl-manager to the non gnmoe non-kde one ?07:36
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gubluntups -e shows a process called "logger" is that legit or have i been hax0red?07:36
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justin_mat1: Alright then like I said test your ram, thats most likely your problem.07:36
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Morrisseysod75, Ive did that .. its still very slow and all ... (even though I changed the window manager to the kde and the beryl thingy)07:36
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Kvekwhat can i do on my problem07:36
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nu!fonts07:37
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto07:37
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer07:37
mat1justin_: yea my other haves 512 in it it works and its got 3 slots so i'm adding my to it07:37
sethkmat1, if the ram tests out good, you might try installing with IDE DMA disabled.07:37
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qman|A64zhello everyone, I'm having difficluty installing ubuntu 6.10 from the CD on my dell inspiron 600007:37
RaiderXsethk, its the rar package, the file is here:  http://www.rarlab.com/rar/rarlinux-3.5.1.tar.gz07:37
qman|A64zI've tried both the desktop and alternate CDs07:37
mat1justin_: it wont even boot in live desktop07:37
sethkRaiderX, why not just install the rar package?07:37
KvekHELP!07:37
sod75Morrissey: Imeant change from Kwin to the compis/beryl one, but it looks like you've tried that07:37
mat1justin_: be back07:38
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sethkbunnythebunny, there is a package named rpm, it includes rpm2cpio07:38
RaiderXi cant find a rar package07:38
qman|A64zthe desktop CD only boots about 1 in 20 times, and it usually locks up after a series of I/O errors on sr0, followed by squashfs errors07:38
Morrisseysod75, yes ... I think somethings wrong .. it almost looks like it loaded the MESA drivers or something ... no DRI support on DIsplay 1:=07:38
alecjwmy gnome-panel keeps crashing, how do i restet the config to the defaults?07:38
qman|A64zthe alternate CD always fails at "select and install packages"07:38
RaiderXive tried apt-get install rar but i get an error07:38
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qman|A64zis there any other installation method I can use?07:38
dptHello everyone. How can i know what kernel i have from console?07:38
kitche!rar|RaiderX07:38
bunnythebunnysethk yeah! i found that out just now! thanks anyway :)07:38
ubotuRaiderX: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free07:38
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sod75dpt: uname -a07:39
dptthanks07:39
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sethkRaiderX, the package name is rar.  If you don't find it, you have a repository problem, or some other related problem that should be fixable07:39
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KvekIs there another way of installing Ubuntu 6.06?07:39
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sethkRaiderX, what error do you get?07:39
sethkRaiderX, I assume you really meant:   sudo apt-get install rar07:40
stojanceHow do I create a symlink?07:40
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qman|A64zis there any other installation method (besides CDs) I can use to install Edgy?07:40
TheSomeone help me with screen resoluton!07:40
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qman|A64zstojance: ln -s07:40
sod75stojance: ln -s file link_to_file07:40
kitcheqman|A64z: there is an unofficial net install cd07:41
qman|A64zboth CDs fail on my machine07:41
stojanceok! thank you07:41
TheHow do I change my resolution to something not listed?07:41
sethkThe, more specific question?07:41
qman|A64zapparently, ubuntu doesn't like my drive07:41
sethkqman|A64z, you tried the text mode install?07:41
nuThe: if it's not listed, its not recognized07:41
qman|A64zyes07:41
sethkqman|A64z, which drive, the cd?07:41
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nuThe: you need to install your videocard driver07:41
qman|A64zfails at select and install packages07:41
TheI heard there is a file I have to edit, but I don't know which one07:41
sethkqman|A64z, which drive are you talking about.  the cd?07:41
qman|A64zits a DVD-ROM in a dell inspiron 600007:41
TheHow do I install my video card driver?07:42
sethkThe, that's the wrong way to do it.07:42
nuThe: you need to edit xorg.conf07:42
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sethkThe, sudo apt-get reconfigure xserver-xorg07:42
nuThe: what videocard you have?07:42
mat1justin_: it works fine wuith my ram07:42
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TheIntel.07:42
RaiderXsethk, yes when i do sudo apt-get rar, i egt this: "Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:42
RaiderXThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:42
RaiderXis only available from another source07:42
RaiderXE: Package rar has no installation candidate07:42
RaiderX"07:42
TheSome Intel one.07:42
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nu!videocard07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about videocard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
sod75The: /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:42
RaiderXso i have to add it to the repository somehow?07:42
nu!intel07:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:42
sethkRaiderX, hmm.  check your repository list.07:42
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nuwell crap07:42
The!resolution07:42
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:42
nuThe: edit xorg.conf07:42
qman|A64zThe: You need to enter your monitor's operating frequencies in /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:43
sethkThe, use the program I gave you.  don't try to edit xorg.conf directly.07:43
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Thewhat program?07:43
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qman|A64zthen you can use higher resolutions07:43
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sethkThe, sudo apt-get reconfigure xserver-xorg07:43
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tengodoes someone know how to mount usb drives?07:43
The...what is that.07:43
CheticWhy do applications take a really long time to start up for me? It wasn't like this a couple of reboots (and days) ago :(07:43
sethkThe, when you get to the part about monitor configuration, select the "middle" difficult level, then select the resolutions you want from among those that are available07:43
qman|A64zThe: You need to find them in the manual or by searching the internet for your model07:43
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sethkThe, it is what you have to type to run the video configuration program.07:44
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Theohh07:44
sethkThe, just run it, it brings up a menu driven program.07:44
RaiderXwell i cant find rar in the spm07:44
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mike__hello07:45
kitcheRaiderX: do you have the non-free repo enabled?07:45
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sethkRaiderX, your repository list isn't right.07:45
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sethkRaiderX, what kitche just said is a good place to start looking07:45
Theit is asking for my password, but when I type it, nothing comes up.07:45
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tengohow come when i try to change permissions for my usb hard drive, i get this: "Sorry, couldn't change the permissions of 'Smart Media Drive.'"07:45
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RaiderXhm07:45
sethktengil, it is probably formatted with a FAT file system, and FAT doesn't support permissions07:46
sethktengil sorry07:46
RaiderXwell i have no idea how to fix it07:46
sethktengo, it is probably formatted with a FAT file system, and FAT doesn't support permissions07:46
Theit is asking for my password, but when I type it, nothing comes up.07:46
sanitariumim looking for a lil help with Xgl i used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133427 i picked compiz as it says go to screen and hangs ?07:46
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tengosethk, is there a way to change it without losing data?07:46
LjLUbotu, please tell sanitarium about xgl | sanitarium, you have a private message from Ubotu07:46
sethktengo07:46
sethktengo, sure07:46
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sethktengo,  by default it is mounted so that only root can access it.07:47
Thesethk, it is asking for my password, but when I type it, nothing comes up.07:47
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sethktengo, you can use options on the mount command to make the drive files look like they are owned by another user. (other than root, that is, namely, you)07:47
qman|A64ztengo: the problem is that windows doesn't normally support ext3, and linux doesn't normally support ntfs, so manufacturers use FAT because of it's compatibility07:47
LjLThe: just type the password and press enter. nothing is *supposed* to come up07:47
tengosethk, its formatted under ntfs07:47
sethkThe, you get no error messages?07:47
tengosethk, which is the windows crap formmat07:48
tengotengo, which one should i change it to07:48
sethktengo, yes, I know what ntfs is.07:48
sethktengo, let me check on the options for ntfs, hold on.07:48
Archyhi, i just wanted to boot from a ubuntu cd, and got following error message: MP_BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC can someone help me plz?07:48
sethktengo, you use    uid=###,gid=###07:48
tengosethk i just type that?07:49
sethktengo, for example:   sudo mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=1000,gid=1000' /dev/hda1 /mnt/whatever07:49
TheE: Invalid operation reconfigure07:49
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sethkThe, you have to type precisely what I told you07:49
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RaiderXok, i dont know what to check for, how do i fix the repository if thats even possible? o.o07:49
sethkThe, you can't insert or remove spaces07:49
LjLsethk, well, i'm not sure you typed the right thing ;)07:49
sethkThe, I'll give it to you again, you should copy and paste it.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xort07:49
mat1justin_: my ram works fine in the other pc and same cd07:49
LjL[19:43:26]  <sethk> The, sudo apt-get reconfigure xserver-xorg  <--  i guess this would be "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"07:50
sethkLjL, oh, my fault, sorry07:50
sethktengo, my fault, sorry07:50
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sethktengo, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:50
Archyhi, i just wanted to boot from a ubuntu cd, and got following error message: MP_BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC can someone help me plz?07:50
sethktengo, I should have checked, not assumed, I apologize07:50
Thei got it07:50
Thenow what07:51
mat1justin_: i guess its my motherboard:(07:51
Thewhat do i do now07:51
sethktengo, sorry also, I put your name instead of The.  I'm batting -100 today.07:51
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madehello all07:51
sethkThe, if the reconfiguration program is running, just answer all its questions07:51
qman|A64zArcy, you should try booting with noacpi...I don't remember the exact syntax07:51
qman|A64zI think if you press F6 during boot and add "noacpi" to the end07:52
madeI'm trying to track a lost phone via gps before the battery runs out.. any ideas?07:52
sethkmat1, highly unlikely that it's the motherboard07:52
CheticWhy do applications take a really long time to start up for me? It wasn't like this a couple of reboots (and days) ago :(07:52
haxalitymade, you've got to be kidding me07:52
Theit says "Ubuntu Configuration"07:52
madehaxality: no.. sorry I'm noke kidding07:52
Theat the top left07:52
tengosethk, what do i do in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:53
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Archyqman|A64z with the "?07:53
Theit says "Ubuntu Configuration" at the top left. Then it has a list.07:53
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sethktengo,I think I aimed the wrong line at you.  you're doing ntfs mount, right?  I aim'ed the answer to "the" at you, sorry07:53
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Theand some text above it.07:54
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sethkThe, that's correct.  it should ask you whether or not it should autodetect your video hardware07:54
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tengosethk, ooohhh ok07:54
TheIt doesnt ask that07:54
sethktengo, sorry for confusing everyone.07:54
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Thex server driver:07:54
Theand a list.07:54
tengosethk, its ok no problemo07:54
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Thetga, vga, vesa, etc.07:54
sethkThe, that's odd.  I just ran it here.07:55
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Thelet me check my typing. what was i supposed to type?07:55
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sethkThe, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:55
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sethkThe, you have graphics running, just the wrong resolution, correct?07:56
Archyqman|A64z i tried both now, still same problem07:56
TheI got it. Yes07:56
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TheThe resolution is the regular monitor type. I need 1280 x 800, widescreen.07:56
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sethkThe, ok.  do you mean the program is running and asked you whether to autodetect video hardware?07:56
sethkThe, or are you still getting a different initial screen?07:57
Theno, it does not ask to auto detect.07:57
GoClickhow can I tell from CLI what the network thruput a machine is doing? ie to know if the machine's network is pinned and that's why my shell account is piss slow cause the load average is like .307:57
Thei can get a screen shot of it.07:57
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ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV07:57
wilee85!ati07:57
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:57
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Archyhi, i just wanted to boot from a ubuntu cd, and got following error message: MP_BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC can someone help me plz?07:57
Archy!acpi07:57
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)07:57
sethkThe, go ahead and answer the question, see what happens next.07:58
TheOkay, seth, i got a screenshot, let me upload it to photobucket07:58
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fooAh, there is 190 to 220 processes in uninterruptable sleep (according to vmstat). If I kill apache, that number goes down to 0. So, it has to be apache. What could be causing this? How can I narrow it down? hmm07:58
sethkArchy, and after that?07:58
Archyit freezes07:58
Archydoesnt go on doing anything07:58
Theseth, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/AniCrosserX/Screenshot-3.png07:58
sethkfoo, remember that apache spawns a bunch of processes, and spawns more processes after a certain number of connections.07:59
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sethkArchy, I don't think that message is the reason, because I've seen it come up on other boxes and then just continue.07:59
DavieyHi, i can't get XDMCP to work.  Can anybody help me?07:59
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Archywell07:59
foosethk: Yup.07:59
sethkDaviey, what happens?07:59
Archywhats the reason tehn?07:59
Archyi just put a live cd in my drive an bootet from it08:00
afiefHelp! when trying to burn a Data DVD gnomebaker gives me this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/83219908:00
Thesethk, http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/AniCrosserX/Screenshot-3.png08:00
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ryanakcahow do I fix "[Fri Nov 24 13:07:15 2006]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts"... apache2. Also, it takes about 3-4 minutes for apache to start with the command "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"08:00
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Archythen he unkompressed linux, booting kernel, and the line08:00
Archythen he freezes08:00
Davieysethk, click 'login through xdmcp' screen goes black then comes up with detected hosts.  Select host, screen goes black then goes back to local login.  It works perfectly when xdmcp'ing to localhost08:00
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sethkThe, hmm, find the right driver and select it.  we only want the monitor configuration portion anyway.08:01
foosethk: So, you're saying those processes in the uninterruptable sleep are apache spawning his children? Hmm08:01
Archycould it have anything to do with the fact that i wanna run it on a notebook?08:01
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jimmygoonI'm building a digipicture frame to pull pix off my pc downstairs via samba and I need to be able to easily pick with photos to display... I was going to do so by making a folder in xp and having shortcuts to the photos I wanted..... BUT.... can I make my programs treat those shortcuts like symbolic links? (cifs/smbfs)08:01
Thesethk, how do i find the right driver?08:01
sethkDaviey, the host is refusing the connection for some reason.  are you sure XDMCP is enabled on the target machine?08:01
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sethkThe, you can get it out of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:02
The..ok.08:02
qman|A64zis it possible to put the ubuntu install disc on a USB flash drive and install from it?08:02
sethkThe, but I'm puzzled about why the program isn't doing what it normally does.08:02
Davieysethk, yes.  it is detected as enabled from the remote client08:02
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frogzooqman|A64z: yes it's possible - there's guides about the net08:02
nacerqman|A64z, i think its possible with the netboot install version08:02
qman|A64zI know how to put boot floppies on my USB drive08:03
afiefHelp! when trying to burn a Data DVD gnomebaker gives me this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/83219908:03
Thesethk, where in the log?08:03
qman|A64zbut nothing about boot CDs08:03
sethkThe, normally on about the 20th line.08:03
Theok08:03
sethkThe, look for a line with "Device" near the beginning.08:03
Davieysethk, any idea then?08:03
TheDevice "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller08:04
Terminusjimmygoon: unlikely. shortcuts in windows aren't really part of the filesystem.08:04
Thethat?08:04
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sethkDaviey, I'm not clear, possibly, on exactly what you are doing.  When I use xdmcp, I use it to get the login screen from the remote machine.08:04
jimmygoonTerminus: do you know of any other way of "solving" my dilemna?08:04
Archysethk u got any other idea that might help me?08:04
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sethkDaviey, I run a local X server, and I start the local X server with an argument telling it the IP of the remove server I want to connect to, and I get the login screen from the remote server.08:05
Davieysethk, thats exactly what i want.  But when i select a remote host, screen goes black then returns to the original local login screen08:05
Terminusjimmygoon: why not just put the pictures on a *nix system?08:05
Thesethk, is this it?: Device "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller08:05
jimmygoonTerminus: insecure ("noob") dad and 15 Gb :(08:05
sethkDaviey, what are you running, specifically, when you select the host?08:05
sethkThe, yes, that's it08:05
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Theits not in here08:06
Davieysethk, the gdm login screen... down in the right hand corner is an option.  what console command are you using?08:06
Thethe list.08:06
afiefHelp! when trying to burn a Data DVD gnomebaker gives me this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/83219908:06
Terminusjimmygoon: hmmm... can't you tell him to transfer the files through samba to the picture server and then grab it from there?08:06
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sethkDaviey, X with a -something, let me check the something08:06
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Thesethk, so, which driver would I choose?08:07
sethkThe, hold on a moment08:07
jimmygoonTerminus: I could... I'm thinking it would be easier just to pass "feh" (the image viewing program) a config file found on the PC... that has a list of the folder/pictures that he wants and then whip together a simple interface for him08:07
Themkay08:07
sethkDaviey, but it should be equivalent to what you are doing.08:07
Terminusjimmygoon: then again, windows can't create symlinks through samba anyway...08:07
Davieysethk, so will that pop up on display:0 or a fresh one.  (ie will i need to kill :0?)08:07
sethkDaviey, it may be a red herring, let me check.08:07
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sethkDaviey, _if_ you do it that way, you are starting an X server and the current one needs to be killed first.  but it should still work the way you are doing it.08:08
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sethkDaviey, it might be good to do it the other way around for troubleshooting purposes, though.08:08
Terminusjimmygoon: if that's what you want, the only way i see to do it is to make the software for the frame more flexible/user friendly/whatever...08:08
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jimmygoonTerminus: say I've mounted my samba share at "/media/desktop-pc" ... I can create a list of his pictures/folders and call it "/media/desktop-pc/config" and then have FEH load the images from that list.... and then I could throw something together in Visual Basic to let him make that config file or something :S08:09
axisyswhat is a good search tool for 10G of compressed data?08:09
Davieysethk, what logs can i check.  I have tried it using 2 x edgy (connecting both ways) and using a dapper client to connect to the two.  All work using localhost08:09
jimmygoonTerminus: yea... its a WIP08:09
sethkDaviey, you are logging in to the remote server with a userid and password that definitely exists on the remote machine?08:09
axisysi want users to be able to access it thru web08:09
RaiderXhah i just installed winrar through wine and it worked :P thansk sethk  and every1 else who helped!08:09
sethkDaviey, working with localhost suggests that it is a permissions problem.08:10
Davieysethk, i'm not getting that far!  It bums out when i select a host08:10
Terminusjimmygoon: i wouldn't even deal with vb. i'd just cronjob the script that creates the config file, scanning dirs periodically.08:10
sethkDaviey, oh, ok, sorry, yes, you said that.08:10
alecjwhow do i reconfigure my gnome panel?08:10
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HoagieHi. Is there any way to change user details without using the System menu? I tried preventing one user from doing administrative actions, and it seems to have affected both. How do I get my main user back to full rights?08:10
foosethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33719/ - any ideas on this? Apache is causing there to be processes in uninterruptable sleep. I think I have a hardware bottleneck with disks. I have SATA on this thing... not too sure what's going on.08:10
jimmygoonah, thats not the issue... feh will go recursive... I just want to be able to pick and choose what pictures to use without copying them... HD space is (sadly) precious08:10
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Terminusjimmygoon: so all he has to do is stuff the pictures in the appropriate directory. config file gets updated 5 minutes later or something...08:11
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sethkfoo, one moment, I'll look but let me answer another question first.08:11
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Thesethk, so, which driver would I choose?08:11
H3g3m0nHoagie: You probally need to boot with the install disk, mount the partition and change the files back08:11
Terminusjimmygoon: well, you can try to google and find out if there's an article somewhere on how to read .lnk files.08:11
Nookie^!postgressql08:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about postgressql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:11
Nookie^!postgresql08:11
ubotupostgresql: object-relational SQL database management system (transitional). In component universe, is optional. Version 7.5.21 (edgy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB08:11
sethkThe, checking ...08:12
Thek08:12
ErnzHi everyone am trying to install Ubuntu 6.06 on an older computer with 750Mhz Athlon, 650MB RAM, 64MB NVidia Grphx card. Should this work??08:12
foosethk: Sure :) Thanks08:12
TerminusErnz: it should.08:12
jimmygoonTerminus: will do.. then I could just have something that scans the folder (cron) and strips out whatever and replace "C:\Shared\Picutres" with "/media/desktop-pc/" or whatnot.......08:12
Terminusjimmygoon: yeah... that kind of stuff...08:13
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Terminusjimmygoon: don't you just love windows?! =P08:13
anton_hi everybody :)08:13
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ErnzTerminus: I am getting to the "This is Ubuntu Live CD." "For the default live system, press ENTER." - But the cursor isn't flashing and nothing happens when I hit ENTER of F1, whats the deal?08:13
HoagieH3g3m0n: Err. You mean the live CD? I'm a total newbie, so I'm not exactly sure how to do that08:13
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H3g3m0nHoagie: Yeh the live cd08:14
anton_doesn't sound good, ernz08:14
jimmygoonTerminus: :( such a seemingly simple thing...08:14
Ernzanton_ Suggestions?08:14
Kingsqueakhttp://www.kingsqueak.org/stuff/AFGUIDEDMISSILE.wav08:14
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anton_have you tried another live cd? maybe you have some strange hardware08:14
TerminusErnz: hmmm... i've never encountered that problem. then again, i never use the livecd.08:14
anton_maybe try something like dsl to begin with. see if it boots08:14
ErnzAnton_ I sure do! Some of this stuff is archaic. I will try the install CD.08:15
HoagieH3g3m0n: Alright, I'll give it a go. Cheers08:15
sethkThe, take a look at this url:  http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/08:15
Theok.08:15
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darko3dhow can i backup the programs i installed via add/remove, so i don't have to reinstall them every time i format?08:15
sethkThe, it's relevant to the non-standard (wide screen) resolution that you need08:15
anton_if you don't mind running the risk of hosing your hard drive, ernz :)08:15
sethkThe, and incidentally should also tell you what driver you need.08:15
HoagieH3g3m0n: How do I mount the partition, by the way?08:15
RaiderXhey is there anything like check disk in ubuntu?08:16
ZaggynlAre the Ubuntu devs aware of the slow burning problem?08:16
H3g3m0nHoagie: mount /dev/yourpartition /mnt08:16
anton_once you've installed them darko, that could be difficult (or take a long time). if i remember correctly, there's a how-to somewhere detailing how to turn your computer into an update repository08:16
RaiderXhey is there anything like check disk in ubuntu?08:16
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TerminusRaiderX: fsck08:16
RaiderXthx08:16
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Ernzanton_: Ideally I would boot into ubuntu 1st because I need to write a CD of stuff currently on the 20GB HDD.08:16
TerminusRaiderX: use it carefully. =)08:16
sethkfoo, that doesn't look abnormal to me08:16
kitcheZaggynl: what are you burning since usually the burning has to deal with how fast your drive can burn data08:17
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foosethk: CPU Usage: u379.12 s1209.51 cu0 cs0 - 2.04% CPU load08:17
RaiderXwut woudl be the syntax to check a removable drive?08:17
anton_ernz: well if it won't boot you're going to have to use plan b :)08:17
sethkfoo, apache always has processes in that mode, that wake up periodically to check for a new connection08:17
ElohimusI'm having an issue with resolving hostnames to IPs. It takes about 4 seconds to resolve any host. Anything I can do?08:17
darko3danton_:do you have any links, until now i only installed xchat08:17
TerminusRaiderX: normally, you should never need to run it manually. it should automatically run when you boot after an improper shutdown and stuff.08:17
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sethkfoo, use ps, you can't really paste the output of top (I think it's top that I'm seeing)08:17
Ernzanton_ plan B? :S08:17
Zaggynlkitche, DVDs and CDRs both burn no faster then 3x with every burning app I tried on a 16x DVD Benq burner08:17
foosethk: yup, but the processes in interruptable sleep. Oh, yeah, that is top08:17
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anton_darko: i'd have to dig something out... gimme a second08:17
Zaggynlthis thread shows I'm not the only one: v08:17
sethkRaiderX, I think you mean umount08:17
Zaggynlhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128721&page=7&highlight=burning+slow08:17
TerminusRaiderX: depends on the filesystem. fsck won't work if the drive is ntfs08:17
kitcheZaggynl: and have you choosen 16x as the speed? it might be set at 3x08:17
Zaggynlkitche, I did choose 16x08:18
sethkfoo, uninterruptable means _externally_ uninterruptable08:18
whtaHey, can anyone help me to get these ATI drivers installed right? I downloaded the .run file but it's giving me stuff about character codes not being able to be read08:18
sethkfoo, doesn't mean that the process is dead.08:18
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anton_ernz: i dunno :) maybe use a different distribution to boot, or build the hard drive into another computer08:18
RaiderXTerminus , i need to check an external drive because i deleted a 450mb file through nautilus and it didnt free any space although the file is gone08:18
Ernzanton_ I think it may be an Ubuntu issue :( I am trying a "Mandriva" liveCD that I just HAPPEN to have and it seems to be booting A-OK.08:18
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TerminusRaiderX: and the drive is ext3?08:18
RaiderXno08:18
RaiderXits a memory stick, so fsck wont work?08:18
sethkErnz, I'm sure it is a ubuntu issue; that doesn't mean there isn't a workaround.  (nor that it is)08:19
HoagieH3g3m0n: It says only root can do that..08:19
anton_cool, ernz :) vive la france!08:19
sethkRaiderX, the fact that it's a memory stick makes no difference.  what matter is the type of file system08:19
TerminusRaiderX: well, fsck can do vfat. never used it myself though.08:19
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whtaHey, can anyone help me to get these ATI drivers installed right? I downloaded the .run file but it's giving me stuff about character codes not being able to be read08:19
sethkHoagie, only root _can_ do that.  use sudo08:19
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RaiderXyea, i know, i implied that i woudltn format a memory stick in ext3 =p08:19
Ernzantonanton_:  Maybe I should give Edgy a shot? I think I read that is supposed to have better legacy support?08:19
kitchewhta: why don't you install the ati package?08:19
darko3d the Ubuntu software channel that includes 'Terminal Program - Super User Mode' is not enabled.<---how do i enable that08:19
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livingtmwhere can i get help with udev?08:20
whtakitche: is that in synaptic? >_>08:20
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TerminusRaiderX: just make sure and use the appropriate fsck. =)08:20
sethkRaiderX, I format memory sticks with ext3 frequently.  there is no reason not to08:20
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kitche!ati|whta08:20
ubotuwhta: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:20
anton_ernz: i'm using edgy myself atm, and it runs okay (not perfect, but okay). but then i never had any problems with drake either08:20
RaiderXhm08:20
sethkRaiderX, the only time I use fat is if the stick has to be read by windows08:20
Ernzanton_ are you using an older machine?08:20
sethkRaiderX, ext2 is good enough, though.08:20
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Thesethk, its really confusing.08:20
strabesext2/ext3 can be read/written to by windows08:20
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strabeswww.fs-driver.org08:21
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anton_ernz: unfortunately not :( but i have a pentium II from 1997 at home under edgy, and it runs okay :)08:21
phashi, i'm trying to make bindings of libid308:21
RaiderXwell, its a PSP memory stick, the reaosn not to is because the PSP wont uinderstand ext3,  think its fat3208:21
phaswith c2hs08:21
phasbut when i try to comile my lib i get08:21
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sethkstrabes, good point.  it doesn't help, though, if you use a memory card formatted by some device (such as a camera)08:21
phasc2hs: Error in C header file.08:21
phas/usr/include/bits/pthreadtypes.h:69: (column 6) [FATAL] 08:21
phas  >>> Syntax error!08:21
phas  The symbol `;' does not fit here.08:21
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Ernzanton_ As luck has it, I have a PIII kicking around somewhere ;)08:21
TerminusRaiderX: well, if you're sure it's fat32, go ahead and use fsck.vfat. just don't blame us if it breaks. =P08:21
yolopehey i have a problem with ubuntu. when i start up now i get "/usr/sbin/pam_getenv: line 3: =head1: command not found" repeating over and over again and i cant get past it. i've logged in recovery mode and startx... has anyone got any ideas how to fix this?08:21
phasi seriusly doubt that this library is broken08:21
RaiderXlol08:22
sethkRaiderX, I don't know what PSP is, but you are probably correct.08:22
RaiderXill chekc to make sure08:22
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RaiderXplaystation portable08:22
RaiderX=p08:22
darko3d i'm downloading a software, but i'm getting this:the Ubuntu software channel that includes 'Terminal Program - Super User Mode' is not enabled.<---how do i enable that08:22
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sethkyolope, that's a syntax error; your script wat barfed.  how did you do that?08:22
yolopeif i run pam_getenv from shell now i get the same error08:22
TerminusRaiderX: fsck.vfat --help to see the options08:22
RaiderXok08:22
ErnzAnyone know what the resident file explorer is in Mandriva???08:22
yolopedunno, i didnt do anything, i installed some software the correct way08:22
HoagieH3g3m0n: Alright, I mounted it. No error message, so I assume it worked. How do I change user settings?08:22
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TerminusRaiderX: or man fsck.vfat08:23
anton_ernz: konqueror08:23
cwillu!cifs08:23
yolopeis it possible to fix it? what would be the best way?08:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:23
finalbeta!paste08:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:23
sethkyolope, sorry, I didn't read carefully08:23
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cwilluanybody know where mount.cifs went in edgy?08:23
sethkyolope, is perl installed on your machine?08:23
Ernzanton_ So it is...08:23
yolopeyeah, i installed perl yesterday08:23
yolopesorry08:23
Terminus!info smbfs edgy08:23
ubotusmbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 900 kB08:23
yolopei installed imagemagick for perl08:23
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anton_ernz: it's a kde installation. konqueror is pretty impressive software :)08:24
mabusDoes ubuntu have a client that can make remote desktop connections to windows?08:24
Terminuscwillu: should be still in smbfs08:24
sethkyolope, make sure  /usr/bin/perl   exists08:24
anton_mabus: vpnclient08:24
cwilluahh neat, thanks08:24
Terminuscwillu: don't take my word for it. i don't run edgy. =P08:24
anton_mabus: sorry, vncclient08:24
yolopeahh08:24
sethkmabus, linux has a windows terminal server client08:24
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Terminusmabus: yes, it does.08:24
yoloperoot@earthtone:~# /usr/bin/perl08:24
yolope/usr/bin/perl: line 1: nice:: command not found08:24
sethkmabus, then there is also vns, but vnc is a dog.08:24
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cwilluTerminus: no problem;  smbfs just isn't installed by default anymore :)08:24
darko3dhow do i enable univers and multiuniverse?08:24
yolopeyes i have some problems here :/08:24
sethkmabus, and has to be running at both ends.08:24
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Terminusmabus: go to Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client08:24
Ernzanton_ Whats the command to mount NTFS hda1?08:24
jimmygoonHow does smbfs compares to CIFS?08:24
cwillubrief wtf moment copying and pasting in fstab from a different working config :)08:24
sethkyolope, ok, now you are on track to fix it.08:25
mabusTerminus: and that's already installed?08:25
jimmygoon!info cifs edgy08:25
ubotuPackage cifs does not exist in edgy08:25
yolopehehe i hope, thanks for the pointer08:25
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mabussethk: vncclient doesn't actually use the RDP though does it?08:25
Terminusmabus: it should be by default. it's compatible with the RDP windows uses. so you can just setup windows to allow remote connections and you should be able to login.08:25
mabusIsn't it sort of it's own thing?08:25
cwillujimmygoon: cifs is smb, only different08:25
mabusTerminus: awesome08:25
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sethkmabus, no, it doesn't08:25
anton_ernz: i imagine mandriva will mount it with a simple mount command08:25
cwillua few different options, which I happen to need08:26
sethkback in a few minutes08:26
HoagieHow do I change user privilages from the Live CD? Anyone?08:26
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sethkmabus, yes, vnc is separate, and has a windows side and a linux side and you have to run both.08:26
RaiderXfsck works for fat16?08:26
H3g3m0nHoagie: There in the file /etc/passwd08:26
sethkmabus, you also, as I said, have a windows terminal server client08:26
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Terminusmabus: oh, and that client can also connect to vnc. =)08:26
anton_ernz: if it doesn't, you're in trouble... (missing ntfs libraries)08:26
Ernzanton_ Only KB working at the mo everything is being done from terminal08:26
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sethkmabus, that's awful syntax, a client for windows terminal server.  :)08:26
Thesethk, its really confusing.08:26
sethkThe, I know.08:26
jimmygooncwillu: I was just working on fstab and cifs/smbfs ... and for whatever reason it wouldn't work with fstab unless I used cifs :S08:26
mabusTerminus: So if I run Terminal Services from ubuntu I can get the graphical output from the serving windows bx?08:26
mabuss/bx/box/08:26
Theso.. how do i do this.08:26
H3g3m0nHoagie: And /etc/group, you can add users to the administrator group in there08:27
anton_ernz: something like mount /dev/hda1 <mountpoint> should work for root :)08:27
sethkThe, I have to go for a bit, but I'll be back.  perhaps someone else can help.  I'm not doing too well with you anyway, unfortunately.08:27
julio1i need a spanish room08:27
Terminusmabus: yep. i used to do it a lot.08:27
Theok.08:27
Terminusmabus: i don't think audio gets forwarded though.08:27
The...so.. can anyone hep me08:27
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yolopecheers sethk, getting there, lots of nice errors :)08:27
anton_mabus: audio doesn't get forwarded, trust me, i use vnc at work :(08:28
salahhello. just installed mysql5.0 on a ubuntu-server (dapper 6.10). how do I log in for the first time08:28
mabusanton_: I'm hoping to use terminal services, not vnc08:28
Ernzanton_ lol - Drive is empty.08:28
anton_salah: tricky. have you got a user?08:28
mabusBut when I use RD from windows to windows, I leave sound at the target box anyway08:28
HoagieH3g3m0n: How do I get into my HD after mounting it? :x08:28
salahanton_, no, how do I do that?08:28
anton_mabus: sorry :) i haven't been paying attention :)08:28
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H3g3m0nHoagie: It should show up as the /mnt directory08:28
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anton_salah: there's some good documentation for mysql on the webpage. it can explain it a lot better than me08:29
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HoagieH3g3m0n: Aha!08:29
whtaOK, question about this ATI driver.. suposedly it comes with ubuntu, right? but my screen seems sluggish and glxinfo | grep vendor says:  "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"08:29
anton_ernz: what does cat /proc/partitions say?08:29
H3g3m0nSo you probally want to edit /mnt/etc/group find the admin line and add your username after it depending on how you disabled the admin access08:29
Ernzanton_ Dunno, I just rebooted. I am going to load fail safes on the Mobo and try again. I ahve suspicions that that may be it.08:30
palomerwhat's a good program to partition my harddisk?08:30
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wilee85!mythtv08:30
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV08:30
zainkaHi, How can I add an Canon PIXMA MP800 when Canon dont support Linux. Is there generic printer drivesr which will work towards Cnon UBS mounted printers?????08:30
anton_ernz: mobo? isn't that something from austin powers?08:30
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Jager[ZZzz] sethk here08:30
Jager[ZZzz] ?08:30
Chris_Swift_KubuHey, I got a prob with detecting my Hard Disk. I have partitioned it in GParted. Cannot find the directory if the drive I have checked media folder though08:30
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anton_zainka: just try a few drivers out. maybe one will work08:30
Ernzanton_ Nearly, yes.08:30
Terminuszainka: try going to linuxprinting.org and check.08:30
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ryanakcahow do I fix "[Fri Nov 24 13:07:15 2006]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts"... apache2. Also, it takes about 3-4 minutes for apache to start with the command "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"08:31
whtaOK, question about this ATI driver.. suposedly it comes with ubuntu, right? but my screen seems sluggish and glxinfo | grep vendor says:  "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"08:31
zainkaThanks08:31
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Terminus!printer | zainka08:31
ubotuzainka: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows08:31
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anton_chris_swift_kubu: what does cat /proc/partitions say?08:31
yolopei think my packages are screwed :( bah, i think fixing this might be bodging it08:31
paitarthi! i just updated from 6.06 to 6.10 -- i don't notice any changes in the desktop's look. why is that?08:31
Chris_Swift_Kubu!hardware08:31
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:31
H3g3m0nCannon do have some linux drivers around afaik although mt ip1300 didn't when i got it (and it broke like a few weeks later)08:31
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H3g3m0nbut they did release some for it08:31
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anton_ubuto: is all printing done with cups, or just network printing?08:32
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Jager-sethk : I tried resizing it to 77 gb... and it still says it cant resize08:32
darko3di ran this in the terminal, wget http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add - and i'm getting Connecting to ubuntu.beryl-project.org|80.77.247.17|:80... connected.08:32
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darko3dHTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 19:30:37 ERROR 404: Not Found.  gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.08:32
HoagieH3g3m0n: Neither password nor group are in there :S08:32
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Chris_Swift_Kubuanton: What? If your on bout compatabitility I have an idencticle drive that is detected08:32
darko3dwhat should i do?08:32
anton_darko: sounds like you need a pgp key to get in.08:32
Terminusanton_: ubotu is a bot, and yes, all printing is done through cups. when you use the wizard, it adds the printer in cups.08:32
whtaOK, question about this ATI driver.. suposedly it comes with ubuntu, right? but my screen seems sluggish and glxinfo | grep vendor says:  "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"08:32
nub_i'm trying to install the newer nvidia glx drivers from the nvidia site, and it's hanging on looking for a kernel module. what do i do to fix that?08:32
yolopethanks08:32
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anton_terminus: thanks :) you learn something new everyday :)08:33
darko3danton_: i'm trying to install beryl, and i followed the steps08:33
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H3g3m0nHoagie: The files themselfs? or the admin group isn't in there?08:33
anton_chris_swift: just wondering if it's recognised by the system08:33
darko3don here http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX#How-to_install_Beryl_with_AIGLX_on_Dapper08:33
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mordofalright, so i'm on the aspire 5610 notebook, i can't find the page for the compatibility list anymore... anyone know off hand weither dual core AND wireless work on this thing yet?08:34
Terminusanton_: cups is sweet. i even have windows connecting to it directly. no more messy samba configs. =)08:34
Jager-Anyone know for sure if a badly fragmented hdd will cause problems when trying to resize it and create a partition?08:34
HoagieH3g3m0n: The files themselves08:34
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dcordesare there any known issues with ddclient and dyndns.org?08:34
Chris_Swift_Kubuanton_: It is partitioned ext3 by GParted on this system08:34
HoagieH3g3m0n: There's no /etc/group and password08:34
anton_terminus: oh god, i once had to share a printer using samba, it was a nightmare :(08:34
anton_so where's the problem, chris? :)08:34
nub_ok, the nvidia installer script is saying that the connection to the nvidia site has timed out, yet i can connect just fine. anybody know what's up?08:34
Chris_Swift_KubuI cant access it or find it in my folders08:35
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anton_jager: it'll just take a long time to do08:35
H3g3m0nHoagie: Are you sure your looking at the files on your hdd in /mnt/etc and not the livecd's /etc ?08:35
whtaOK, question about this ATI driver.. suposedly it comes with ubuntu, right? but my screen seems sluggish and glxinfo | grep vendor says:  "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"08:35
H3g3m0nHoagie: Also its passwd not password08:35
mordofnub_, possibly installer script is using an old location to the files... make sure you're using the most up to date drivers...?08:35
Terminusanton_: just use ipp if all your winboxen are win2k+. winme and below require samba though.08:35
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nub_i just downloaded it today, mordof08:35
coyotexquick question , how can i add a program in boot time ?08:35
anton_terminus: the problems are now behind me :) i only use linux and solaris now :)08:35
mordofk then i have no idea, hehe.. i'm not actually on ubuntu but am trying to get info to see if it will work on my laptop08:35
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Terminuscoyotex: update-rc.d if it has an init script, add it to rc.local if it doesn't.08:36
anton_coyotex: init.d :)08:36
sprizzquestion: how can i remove the freeglut3 package without removing x?08:36
Specanton_ why solaris?08:36
Chris_Swift_Kubuanton_: Sorry bout repeat but you may not of noticed I cant access the drive or see any folders for the drive08:36
Quanturhi folks08:36
Chris_Swift_Kubuhi08:36
anton_spec: curiosity. to be honest, gentoo works better on the sun computers i've got...08:36
whtaumm, i have a problem. sound doesn't work in anything but flash08:36
anton_chris: is the drive mounted?08:36
HoagieH3g3m0n: I think so. I mounted the drive, and I'm looking in the mnt folder in filesystem08:36
nub_ok, how can i change my dns servers in the command line?08:36
Chris_Swift_Kubuanton_: was just going to ask how  to mount08:37
darko3dany help??08:37
TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: is the drive ntfs?08:37
Specanton_: heh, i installed gentoo on the sun server we got... :p08:37
Chris_Swift_KubuAnton_: nope ext308:37
anton_chris: a-ha! first one checks to see if the drive is recognised as hardware by the system :) (cat /proc/partitions)08:37
TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: if it's ntfs, mount it using mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hda /mnt/point08:37
H3g3m0nHoagie: hmm its possible its hiding them somehow, maby try a looking at them in a terminal as sudo root. If those files arn't on you hdd then you shouldn't even beable to login08:37
anton_spec: and don't you just feel superior once you've done that :) i had to recompile the kernel 5 times before it booted08:38
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TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: oh... ext3. where'd you mount it?08:38
sprizzanyone know how to remove the freeglut3 package without removing x?08:38
Chris_Swift_KubuI havent yet, asking how to08:38
TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: permission problem? if so chmod it.08:38
Specanton_: it was easy; our sun server has an x86 chipset08:38
Specit's not even sparc08:38
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anton_spec: oh :( and i'm struggling with an ultrasparc workstation :(08:38
darko3dthe beryl installation guide, says: Make sure to get the public key for the repository, what does that means?08:38
whtaSound works only in flash videos. Tried loading an mp3 into xmms and got nothing. any ideas?08:38
Jager-Anyone know for sure if a badly fragmented hdd will cause problems when trying to resize it and create a partition?08:38
TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: mount /dev/hda /mnt/point where hda is the drive device node and /mnt/point is where you want it to go.08:39
Chris_Swift_KubuI know it's SDB from GParted08:39
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TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: hda1 or whatever i mean. the letter is the drive and the number is the partition08:39
Terminus!mount | Chris_Swift_Kubu08:39
ubotuChris_Swift_Kubu: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks08:39
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anton_darko: to limit access to the repository you need a key. getting it shouldn't be a problem, however.08:39
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whtaSound works only in flash videos. Tried loading an mp3 into xmms and got nothing. any ideas?08:40
darko3dhow do i get it?08:40
sorush20hi I'm being asked for my cups password, what is this password and where is ti?08:40
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anton_darko: that should be mentioned in the documentation, i'd have thought. i'm afraid i can't help08:40
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kitchewhta: for mp3 playback you need the mp3 library08:40
paitarthi! i just updated from 6.06 to 6.10 -- i don't notice any changes in the desktop's look. why is that?08:40
TerminusChris_Swift_Kubu: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb should list all the partitions on that drive and the appropriate device nodes.08:40
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Chris_Swift_KubuIt's a single partition08:41
kitche!mp3|whta08:41
ubotuwhta: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:41
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anton_sorush: oh cups password. i think you need to configure a superuser for cups. there is a command to do that. don't ask me what it is. try apropos cups and see what gets spat out08:41
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Jager-Im planning on moving all my non-game apps over to linux once i get it installed, and just use windows for games. so after i uninstall all the apps i can use on linux (or open source equivalents) will i be able to reduce the size of the windows partition and give it to linux?08:41
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Jager-and vice-verse (in case i need more room on the windows partition)08:42
Terminusanton_ and sorush: you have to add the cups user to the shadow group first. it can't read the password otherwise. then you just use your username and password if your user is in the lpadmin group. (it is by default)08:42
H3g3m0nJager-: Yes, you can use gparted on the live cd to resize them08:42
HoagieH3g3m0n: How do I look in sudo root?08:42
Jager-Well currently i cannot08:43
Jager-but thats what im trying to figure out08:43
PupenoRH3g3m0n: can parted resize NTFS ?08:43
anton_oh cool, thanks terminus :) i've spent my whole life configuring a user to do it...08:43
Jager-gpart on the live disk gives me an error when i try to shrink the windows partition08:43
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nub_isn't writing to ntfs from linux kind of dangerous to the ntfs data?08:43
H3g3m0nHoagie: Open up a terminal, 'sudo -i', 'file /mnt/etc/groups'08:43
Jager-soi im going to try to create a partition for linux while im on windows08:43
Terminusanton_: lol. /etc/shadow is unreadable to anything that's not root or in the shadow group. =)08:43
PupenoRJager-: I wouldn't expect (g)parted to be able to resize or modify NTFS partitions in any way.08:43
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H3g3m0nHoagie: Thats group not groups sorry08:44
anton_terminus: it doesn' even make that much sense, if you're root...08:44
whtaSound works only in flash videos. Tried loading an mp3 into xmms and got nothing. any ideas?08:44
mat1justin_: u here?08:44
Terminusanton_: but the cupsys daemon doesn't run as root. more secure that way. hence the need to add it to the shadow group.08:44
Jager-PupenoR: oh? So then how am I supposed to install linux?...08:44
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anton_terminus: makes sense :) thanks for the tip :)08:44
Terminusanton_: and it's not in the shadow group by default because of paranoia. ;)08:44
kitche!mp3>whta08:44
kitchewhta you should of gotten a pm from ubotu08:45
darko3dAnybody here knows how to get an OpenGPG key for installing beryl?08:45
CharonXAnyone know of a way to view the httpd.conf file of a running apache service ? (If the httpd.conf files has been deleted)08:45
Chris_Swift_Kubuthanks guys i have now mounted08:45
Terminusanton_: np. also, the fact that cupsys doesn't run as root is because of security again. =)08:45
anton_this shadow stuff can be trouble. i once tried to use yellow pages to manage passwords and stuff. try getting that to export /etc/shadow...08:45
whtai should have said it's not just mp3s, also ogg files :o08:45
wilee85where is the modprobe.conf file?08:45
kitchewhta: you have to install the codecs for them08:45
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Terminusanton_: well, only root has rw to shadow...08:46
whtakitche: doesn't linux come with built in support for free formats..?08:46
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HoagieH3g3m0n: Alright, it said "/mnt/etc/group: ASCII text"08:46
kitchewhta: you need the codecs to play them though not sure if ubuntu comes with them by default08:46
H3g3m0nHoagie: 'gksu gedit /mnt/etc/group'08:46
whtakithce: the files that came in the UBUNTU EXAMPLES FOLDER had no sound, I'm assuming they were supposed to come with it =\08:47
degushi guys!08:47
sprizzdoes anyone know how to remove freeglut3 without removing x?08:47
anton_whta: sounds like your sound isn't working okay. does ubuntu come with alsaconf?08:47
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HoagieH3g3m0n: "GtK - WARNING **: cannot open display:"08:47
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whtaanton_: strange thing is some sound works. it's an odd problem. tell me how to check for alsaconf and i'll look >_>08:48
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anton_whta: open a terminal, log in as root and type 'which alsaconf'08:48
H3g3m0nHoagie: Try in a new terminal, I think it lost your display environment variable when you ran sudo -i08:48
Ernzanton_ Fixed our what my problem was with that boot screen...08:48
heehowwhow can i install libdvdcss on dapper?08:49
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anton_ernz: do tell :) (you didn't have your monitor plugged in?)08:49
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whtaanton_: that doesn't give me anything08:49
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PupenoRJager-: if you only have one big NTFS partition you'll need to backup, destroy and re-install. Alternative I belive there are some othe (proprietary) programs that can let you shrink an NTFS partition.08:49
matsheehoww: you have to enable the universe-multivere at /etc/apt/source.list08:49
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martin_Nat spricht deutsch?08:49
anton_whta: then it's not there. mm, sound just worked for me, so i haven't got to grips with installing a sound card in ubuntu08:49
matsenglish08:49
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abo_mount.ntfs-use is peaking in top every 3-4 seconds periodically, anyone had this problem before?08:50
anton_suchst du jemand, der deutsch kann, martin?08:50
mat1!de08:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de08:50
PupenoR!de08:50
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Nat_martin: no in fact08:50
Ernzanton_ Correction: "Figured". lol - No, bizzarrely enough the USB keyboard works in the BIOS, works with a Mandriva boot, but not with Ubuntu. Very odd. I noticed it when I got a "Disk Read Error" and the thing wouldn't retry when I hit the Any key...08:50
heehowwmats: how can i do that??08:50
Jager-Gpart made to 1.4 gb partitions. One is "extened" one is "logical" and the logical is Linux swap208:50
whtaanton_: the first time i installed ubuntu there were no problems with sound. since then i've reformatted and got a new motherboard so that might be it.. but I don't get why some sound works and other sound doesn't08:50
Jager-is this normal?08:50
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mat1heehoww i did it already befor u it dont repeat08:50
anton_whta: it's a complicated world. not all sound cards are the same08:50
HoagieH3g3m0n: Alright, that's opened it... Now do I just add the user to root?08:51
H3g3m0nHoagie: Theres a special admin group08:51
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HoagieH3g3m0n: Both of my users are in "adm"08:51
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Ernzanton_ I just degaussed this 21" Compaq MONSTER by accident! Scared the hell out of me!08:51
whtaI would have tried to install linux drivers for my card but I can't find any =\08:51
Jager-H3g3m0n: How can I go about creating a 10gb partition for linux? It doesnt seem to work in Gpart08:51
ErnzThought I was being electrocuted.08:51
heehowwmatl: sorry man....08:51
anton_ernz: if you have a cat, check to see what its fur is doing :)08:52
HoagieH3g3m0n: Ah, silly me08:52
scheurihi all...I have an odd problem with my USB-mass-storage devices lately...from one day to another I can not access them anymore...I plut them in, the usual window pops up, but nothing after...the device is mounted but not accessible with my normal user08:52
H3g3m0nHoagie: adm isn't admin, check down the bottom08:52
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matsheehoww: hm?08:52
HoagieH3g3m0n: Added it.. Just save and reboot?08:52
mat1heehoww: its ok:P08:52
Ernzlol08:52
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H3g3m0nJager-: Do you have the space free?08:52
Jager-yea08:52
H3g3m0nHoagie: Yep that should be it08:52
Jager-about 17 gb08:52
anton_scheuri: which distribution?08:52
heehowwmats: i wasnt here when u taught that08:52
HoagieH3g3m0n: Here goes ;)08:52
scheuriubuntu 6.06.108:52
matsheehoww: oh ;)08:52
scheurianton_: ubuntu 6.06.108:52
H3g3m0nJager-: Try cfdisk if gparted isn't working, you will also need to mkfs.ext3 the partition you make in cfdisk though08:53
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Ernzanton_ Thanks for your help there. I think I manage from here.08:53
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H3g3m0nHoagie: Good luck08:53
Jager-I need two partitions, one for / and one for swap. correct?08:53
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H3g3m0nJager-: Yep08:53
mat1any got any ideals on the EIP problem other then ram is not the problem...08:53
anton_scheuri: strange, i thought problems with usb were ironed out. haven't had any myself for ages. when you put the usb drive in, how is it mounted? (cat /etc/mtab)08:53
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Jager-should i be able to get wireless working while running on the live cd??08:53
darko3dok, i had it with this shit, does anybody know wherte i can find a guide on how to install beryl aiglx on dapper, other then the shitty guide on beryl's wiki08:54
Blockis there a way to run mac apps on an ubuntu system?08:54
H3g3m0nJager-: If your installing ubuntu then the installer will probally beable to allocate the space to the largest free region on your hdd08:54
scheurianton_: funny thing is...my usb-HDD and my usbstick worked like a charm...until a few days ago08:54
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scheurianton_: same problem with PC at work...but much earlier...did not really bother, thought was another problem08:54
mat1darko3d: try searching berylonaiglx08:54
ragamuffinCan i comment out memtest and recovery mode from grub?08:54
Jager-H3g3m0n: so what option should I chose08:54
anton_ragamuffin: if you want08:55
matsBlock: why would you do that? :p08:55
matsBlock: then you have to emulate it08:55
H3g3m0nJager-: In the installer for using free region or cfdisk for making a new parition?08:55
zainkaI've tried to download some printer drivers from linuxprinting.org, but my Archive manager reported that "Archive type not supported.". I downloaded the "cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.i386.rpm" package + another one (same result for both)08:55
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anton_scheuri: it's probably a rights problem08:55
scheurianton_: oh...there is no usb-device in mtab...08:55
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Jager-H3g3m0n: the installer08:55
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anton_scheuri: and you've plugged it in?08:55
Clansmanhola08:55
HoagieH3g3m0n: It worked! I will love you forever, thanks a load! It makes me happy that people are willing to help someone as dense as me. ;)08:55
Blockemulate it? hmm..08:55
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ragamuffinanton_: I will have to add # in all lines dealing with the respective boot items or only the first line?08:55
H3g3m0nHoagie: nps =P08:55
scheurianton_: I just did...the window popped up.....08:55
jcsteeleon dapper i use to be able to browse the available wireless networks using the "networking" diaglogs in the system menu...now i cannot.08:56
anton_scheuri: before plugging it in, type tail -f /var/log/messages in a terminal08:56
thompachecking system monitor I only show 1 cpu08:56
scheurianton_: hmm...aye...08:56
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jcsteeledoes anyone know of a good way to browse the wireless networks available?08:56
matsBlock: http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2006/02/mac-apps-on-linux.html08:56
matsBlock: http://linuxrevolution.blogspot.com/2006/02/mac-apps-on-linux.html08:56
matsups, sorry that08:56
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anton_ragamuffin: all lines, i think (grub isn't that intelligent, if i remember)08:56
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thompaanbody know what up with that, I always showed 2 cpus before now one08:56
Jager-H3g3m0n: whenever I chose "resize (hdd name) and use freed space" it wont let me resize it08:56
anton_jcsteele: iwlist scan :)08:56
scheuri!pastebin08:56
ragamuffinanton_: thanks08:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:56
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liquidboyanyone know a way to get desktop icons in windowmaker without using nautilus?08:57
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scheurianton_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33731/08:57
pixelhi08:57
zainkaArchive manager reports for some .rpm's that "Archive type not supported.". I downloaded the "cnijfilter-common-2.60-1.i386.rpm" package + another one (same result for both) from linuxprinting.org08:57
H3g3m0nJager-: When you say you have free space, is it free space on a windows/other partition or unpartitioned space?08:57
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thompado i need to install a different kerenl for duo core?08:57
anton_liquidboy: windowmaker must have a conf-file. try ls -a in your home directory and look for something like .desktop, or .windowmaker or similar08:57
Jager-its free space on a windows partition08:58
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pixelJager-: how you going?08:58
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degusMy sound aint working(Creative Soundblaster X FI) ive read that there are no support for it yet(drivers will be availble around sumer 2007)  but now iam just wondering if there is some drivers that acctually works with my sound card? not fully functional just some sound mono or something just so i can listen to music..08:58
Jager-Hi pixel08:58
dani_hi08:58
thompawith the cdrom running i have 100% cpu usage and no 2nd cpu showing, weird08:58
H3g3m0nJager-: Ah ok, try shrinking the windows partition down manually first in gparted, if it doesn't work check the error in the details section08:58
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pixelI have 2 services that load when Dapper loads. how can I remove them from loading at boottime please?08:59
Jager-I've done that, and i also saved the log08:59
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dani_van itt valaki, aki magyar?????????????????????????????????08:59
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H3g3m0nJager-: What the error is giving you?08:59
Jager-http://www.originalwebconcepts.com/Whatever/gparted_details.htm08:59
anton_scheuri: okay. i can't see it being mounted anywhere. what does cat /etc/mtab say?08:59
nub_can somebody help me with the nvidia glx drivers?08:59
pixelnub_: not me sorry08:59
mordofwhat does the "Alternate" CD do?09:00
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H3g3m0nJager-: "ERROR: Extended record needed (1048 > 1024), not yet supported! Please try to free less space."09:00
anton_pixel: look at run levels in /etc/rc.d09:00
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Jager-H3g3m0n: (Thats an older log, but all Ive done after this is change the size I tried changing the windows partition to)09:00
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scheurianton_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33732/09:00
dani_nem tudtok magyarul beszlni??????????????09:00
H3g3m0nJager-: just don't try to free that much space, try a smaller number09:00
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mat1nub_: try searching berylonaiglx09:00
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zainkaIs Krusader file manager ported to Ubuntu???09:00
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Jager-H4g3m0n: Ive tried down to 4gb09:00
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mat1its there09:00
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anton_scheuri: i can't see your usbdisk anywhere :(09:01
darko3dthe beryl installation guide, says: Make sure to get the public key for the repository, where do i get that?????????????????09:01
gleesondis there a walkthough for upgrading to edgy from dapper.09:01
pixelanton_: there is no file called rc.d in my /etc09:01
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scheurianton_: oh my god....I just checked the /media-directory...there is an file called sda1...if I make a "more" it turns out to be my ddclient-config file09:01
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mat1cyper, why u scanning me?09:01
Terminus!ugrade | gleesond09:01
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kokoko1hi09:01
kitchenub_: you have nvidia-glx installed but it's not using it?09:01
aldoHi to all09:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ugrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:01
me_which nicname is the bot that searches for packages?09:01
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Terminusoh... no factoid. heh09:01
LjLmat1: he's scanned the entire channel.09:01
dani_a monitorfelbontst hogyan lehet tlltani 1280x1024-re? Mert nekem csak 1024x768 van a listn.09:01
Blockmats: I see. Sorry for beeing ignorant, but can one run macosx on a pc these days?09:01
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kokoko1anyone fn keys working on toshiba a100?09:01
gleesond!upgrade09:02
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes09:02
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kitcheBlock: umm the new macs are just PC's09:02
mat1LjL, can you help me on the EIP its not my ram09:02
NET||abusehey guys,, what would you guys suggest as the best virtual hosting control panel system? Hopefully a free one too :)09:02
anton_pixel: there's one folder for each run level.09:02
H3g3m0nJager-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289048 - Says to try defrag under windows09:02
aldoI have to repair some errors on my Edgy startup disk. I could not use fsck on mounted partitions. I can I do?09:02
dani_nekem is als100-am van: sudo modprobe snd-als10009:02
NET||abusei'm lookin at ispconfig at the moment, but i would rather check out a few options :)09:02
anton_scheuri: that doesn't sound good... i'd delete that one09:02
GeForceWould be cool if running OSX would be possible on Linux.... :D09:02
Jager-Okay.. yea Ive suspected that.. my hdd is pretty badly fragmented..09:02
me_where can i get w32codecs?>09:02
anton_scheuri: or put it somewhere else for now09:02
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bruenig!quicktime | me_09:03
ubotume_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:03
LjLmat1: wouldn't even know where to start troubleshooting09:03
batrixcan anyone help me on connecting to an access point using iwconfig?09:03
TMXI've been trying to install ubuntu on my machine, but the xserver doesn't want to work.  It has dual NV 7800GT's. I've poked around using various options on the boot screen, and tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, changing the driver to NV and then VESA, and the colour down to 16 bit, 640x480 and a few other bits, but the result is always the same.09:03
TMXanyone any ideas?09:03
Jager-*sigh* defragging takes HOURS :'(09:03
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anton_batrix: start be setting the name using iwconfig <device> essid "name of net"09:03
nolimitsoyaJager-, what are you defragging, and why?09:04
scheurianton_: just deleted the file...now I can manually mount the usb-stick again...but still...after konquerer pops up asking if I want to open a new konquerer for the stick nothing happens...hmmm09:04
H3g3m0nTMX: Might be worth trying the nvidia binary drivers09:04
scheurianton_: I must have been blind...sorry....did recon the file there09:04
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TMXH3g3m0n: sorry, should have said, this is the installation CD09:04
GeForceTMX: The latest nvidia's drivers's name is nvidia btw, in your xorg.conf09:04
batrixanton_ ok i got that much09:04
Jager-nolimitsoya: Aparently that will fix the problem Im having resizing my qwindows partition09:04
anton_batrix: then set the key, if there is one09:04
nolimitsoyaJager-, the only linux fs i know ofthat has a defragger would be xfs, and that defragger is both fast and effecient09:04
liquidboycan anyone tell me what handles the desktop icons in xfce?09:04
TMXGeForce: sorry, should have said, this is the installation CD09:04
batrixanton_ there isn't a key09:04
nolimitsoyaJager-, aha, well, defragging ntfs is painfull :)09:05
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GeForcetmx: oh, you mean on livecd?09:05
Jager-nolimitsoya: Im on widows defragging.. so that I can resize it using Gpart09:05
TMXGeForce: yes09:05
Jager-nolimitsoya: lol yes09:05
anton_batrix: then start the dhcp client ( i think thats dhcpclient in ubuntu, but i may be wrong)09:05
GeForcetmx: then you might have to use the Alternate install CD09:05
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Jager-My god my hdd is fragmented09:05
H3g3m0nTMX: Tried VGA maby? Otherwise might be worth removing one of the cards for installation and instlaling the nvidia driver then adding the other card09:05
Jager-I havent defragged in like.. 2 yeara lol09:05
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anton_scheuri: well, at least it's working manually.09:05
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H3g3m0nTMX: Its probally possible to use the binary drivers on the live cd anyway09:06
batrixanton_ is that like dhcpd wlan0?09:06
TMXVGA mode had the same effect, yeah09:06
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slonchohi. is there a way to make Totem to autolaunch when I insert DVD?09:06
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nolimitsoyaJager-, check out dirms & buzzsaw. its a free defragger that get the job done in the background, and defrags in a (very thorough) way that reduces future fragmentation09:06
elubieHi! I'm trying to install the nvidia-glx drivers on Edgy with the generic kernel (AMD Athlon X2) and it wants to install linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 which I think I don't want?09:06
slonchoauto launch and auto play09:06
anton_batrix: dhcpcd eth0, or ath0 or whatever. not wlan009:06
TMXH3g3m0n: it can?09:06
scheurianton_: well, yes...but now I run into the old rights-problem....only root can mount and access it...:(09:06
GeForceelubie: Yes you do09:06
Jager-nolimitsoya: windows apps?09:06
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GeForceelubie: Just means the driver needs an updated kernel09:06
batrixanton_ i get some licensing thing which i can't use dhcpd09:06
TMX*fires up lynx and gives it a go*09:06
anton_scheuri: yep, you're right there :( but you're also at the edges of my knowledge :(09:07
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Blockkitche: Yeah, I heard about the switch to intel cpus, but that dosn't make them a pcs in my world. I doubt that apple releases drivers for the mixed hardware in the pc realm..09:07
nolimitsoyaJager-, it might also be quite a bit faster, if you use the "ugly" (=almost as any other defragger, but slightly better) defrag option, and yes its a windows app :)09:07
H3g3m0nTMX: livecd should be a fully functional system, just will loose everything when you reboot :)09:07
anton_batrix: you have to do that as root09:07
TMX-bash: lynx not found ;_;09:07
scheurianton_: well, thank you very much anyway...I am a step closer to a solution for sure09:07
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darko3dthe beryl installation guide, says: Make sure to get the public key for the repository, where do i get that?????????????????09:07
batrixanton_ i am root09:07
TMXdoes the livecd come with a text mode browser?09:07
GeForcetmx: sudo apt-get install lynx09:07
bruenigTMX, sudo apt-get install lynx, the default text browser is w3m09:07
elubieGeForce: I think that was why after installing them once ubuntu only recognized one processor09:07
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TMXah, of course09:08
nolimitsoyaJager-, dirms is a defrager, and buzzsaw is a background realtime defragtool making sure you never have to bother with defraging again09:08
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degusafter installing nvidia kernel and glx do i have to reboot?09:08
TMX*hasn't used ubuntu in a while*09:08
batrixanton_ oh shit lol i'm in the wrong channel i'm trying to do this for slackware sorry hehe09:08
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TMXI'd forgotten how simple software installation was :)09:08
H3g3m0nPersonally i prefer elinks and links2 over lynx09:08
anton_batrix: okay :) lots of fun with slackware :)09:08
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GeForceElubie: well, if it stops recognizing your 2 cpus, from the boot screen, you can switch back09:08
barrett9hTMX: try links09:08
barrett9hit was installed here by default09:08
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TMXnah, no links either09:09
barrett9hiirc09:09
anton_degus: you have to restart x-windows. the kernel module should be loaded automagically09:09
Jager-nolimitsoya: Awesome! Thanks :)09:09
NET||abusehmm, i have apache2 and openssl, but do i also need an apache-mod-ssl package to run ssl certificates?09:09
elubieGeForce: ok, will try then, thanks for the help09:09
NET||abusei don't see it anywhere in the deb's09:09
darko3dthe beryl installation guide, says: Make sure to get the public key for the repository, where do i get that?????????????????09:09
GeForceelubie: im a n00b too, but im tryin to help :)09:09
GeForceos[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic x86_64]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ @ 2.01GHz]  mem[Physical : 1002MB, 63.0% free]  disk[Total : 266.51GB, 57.20% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation TRM-S1040]  sound[] 09:09
NET||abusedarko3d: mostly in the tutorial, it's listed right there09:09
pixelanton_: I found a program for that!  bum09:09
degusok thanks09:10
GeForceI REALLY like the "63.0% free" :D09:10
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HoagieAlright, different issue I'd like to sort! Do you -need- an internet connection to install programs? I mean, is it possible to download them on this computer, and transfer them to my ubuntu machine to install? I've not had the time/money to go out and buy a router yet09:10
darko3dno, it's not09:10
barrett9his there an easy way to setup internet connection sharing with bluetooth?09:10
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HoagieBut I'd quite like to get some swanky Gdesklets and such going09:10
darko3dhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX09:10
elubieGeForce: :)09:10
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GeForcetmx: FYI btw, the way I installed the nvidia drivers was to do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, but I have no idea if it works on a live cd09:10
dabaRhey, did you know that suckas pack yo' shi%?09:10
H3g3m0nHoagie: You can just download the .deb files09:11
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TMXGeForce: ty, I'll give that a try before I do it manually09:11
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anton_okay, everybody. i'm rebooting into mandriva. see you later :)09:11
H3g3m0nHoagie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/09:11
ink251what ubuntus default porn browser?09:11
GeForcetmx: yeah it's sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx, then sudo nvidia-xconfig09:11
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mborohovhey guys09:12
ink251hey09:12
GeForcetmx: Litttle warning tho. I dunno if they support Crossfire (or nvidia's equivalent) in linux yet09:12
w30ink251, xxxorg09:12
ink251heh ok09:12
darko3dthe beryl installation guide, says: Make sure to get the public key for the repository, where do i get that. it's not in the tutorial http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX09:12
HoagieH3g3m0n: Ah, nice! Thanks again!09:12
mborohovim having issues getting compiz to work, is there a tutorial of sorts on the web? i suppose its easiest to do it through AiGLX? then again, i dont really know very much about compiz.09:12
TMXGeForce: SLI isn't supported, but it falls back to single mode nicely, or it did in 5.1009:12
ink251yeah i did it through aiglx09:12
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GeForcetmx: oh ok09:13
H3g3m0nHoagie: The main problem with doing it that way is dependencies though, if you have another ubuntu install thats the same verison/arch you can install the programs on that and then copy all the /var/cache/apt files across09:13
mborohovoh, and im running edy09:13
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mborohovedgy*09:13
GeForcemborohov: Which video card are you using?09:13
sc0ttyis there a guid to install ubuntu booting from something else than a cd ?09:13
darko3dthe beryl installation guide, says: Make sure to get the public key for the repository, where do i get that. it's not in the tutorial http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/AiGLX09:13
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flughdarko3d, it says right below 'get the key' a commandline to import the key09:14
mborohovGeForce: I'm using a...09:14
mborohovnVidia Corporation GeForce Go 6200 TurboCache09:14
mborohovsays lspci09:14
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flughdarko3d, the .asc file is an ascii file with the public key of the person responsible for signing the packages. it's piped to apt-key and added to your keyring09:15
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nolimitsoyadoes anyone know of a good(=fast, fully functioning and unbloated), gui bittorrent client that can be configured to automaticaly load all torrents within a specified directory? preferably gtk, but qt as acceptable09:15
nolimitsoya*is acceptable09:15
mournsanityanyone know where I can download the source for the wanda fish applet09:15
bruenigutorrent09:15
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darko3di ran that from the beginning andf i got, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 20:14:24 ERROR 404: Not Found.  gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.09:15
GeForcemborohov: Hmmm.... I'm personnaly using the beta nvidia drivers, as I had problems with the stable ones in AIGLX09:16
GeForcebut it works ok now09:16
aldohi09:16
mborohovi dont know how to set it up is the main issue09:16
bruenig!hi | aldo09:16
ubotualdo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!09:16
GeForcemborohov: might wanna check #ubuntu-xgl09:16
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mborohovare you using compiz or beryl?09:16
flughmournsanity, do you have source repository entries enabled for apt? apt-get source 'package' should work (forgive me if it doesn't, been away from ubuntu/debian/apt a while :))09:16
nolimitsoyabruenig, thats what im using now, but id like a linux naitive app. besides, it doesnt seem to accept incoming connections in linux through wine, though is does in windows09:16
zebulon25Hi09:16
barrett9hhow do I setup internet connection sharing with bluetooth?09:16
bruenignolimitsoya, works great here, but perhaps I got lucky09:16
mournsanitythanks flugh, ill try it09:16
fouratwhen i plug a hard disk on the IDE interface, ubuntu freezes, is there anyway to hot-plug it ?09:17
nolimitsoyabruenig, what version of wine are you using?09:17
ink251get a usb mount09:17
aldodo you know what's the command to check and repair a damaged filesystem from a live cd?09:17
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bruenig0.9.2209:17
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darko3dflugh:i ran that from the beginning andf i got, HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 20:14:24 ERROR 404: Not Found.  gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.09:17
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mat1u cant hot-plug a ide09:17
nolimitsoyafourat, pata (if thats what you mean by ide) are not generaly hotswapable.09:17
TMXGeForce: that works a treat, ty, albeit the the screens are the wrong way around, but I think I can live with that for 15 minutes while I finish installing :P09:17
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GeForcetmx: YAY I fixed a problem! :) gl09:18
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flughdarko3d, back up to the front page of that site, they have a corrected command to import the key (i just checked it)09:18
ryanakcahow do I find out what port a service runs on again? grep svn /etc/?09:18
thompathe generic kernel does not work, im only showing one cpu09:18
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flughryanakca, /etc/services09:18
ryanakcaty09:18
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aldonobody knows?09:18
nolimitsoyathompa, you would want the server/smp kernel, wouldnt you?09:19
newpZwhat is the best method to convert a xvid/divx file into a dvd and burn? tovid+k3b?09:19
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thompanolimitsoya: ill try that09:19
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nolimitsoyanewpZ, devede :)09:19
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newpZnolimitsoya, havent heard of that... looking it up now!09:19
thompanolimitsoya: i did have 2 cpus showing the last time i installed ubuntu and it was generic kernel09:19
nolimitsoyanewpZ, apt-get09:19
newpZlooks PERFECT!09:19
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newpZthanks!09:19
someHello, is it possible to make the livecd to be shared for pxe client? I a laptop without cdrom which i want it to boot on the livecd09:19
nolimitsoyathompa, yes, but that would have been the smp version of a generic kernel09:20
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GeForcetmx: BTW, FYI, if u fizzle in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf, you can swap the screens around, should be relatively easy (There might also be an option in Gnome, no idea tho)09:20
jamesb2147anyone know why it prompts for a password whenever i use a sudo command?09:20
bruenig!sudo | jamesb214709:20
thompamaybe so whcih should i choose  smp?09:20
ubotujamesb2147: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:20
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GeForcejamesb2147,  to simplify it, sudo  = SuperUser Do09:21
bruenigjamesb2147, because the command needs root privileges. It is a safety precaution so that people don't get on your computer and just start deleting and destroying everything09:21
thompanolimitsoya: right now im locking up on 100% cpu if i even play a cd09:21
nolimitsoyathompa, the ending just tells you about compile-time optimizations. -generic is meant to replace all the -686, -k7 and so on using modules instead, but i dont think is has smp support built in. i dont even think its possible todo so...09:21
mat1jamesb2147: use ur password:P09:21
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wilee85anyone know where I can find the modprobe.conf file?09:21
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TMXGeForce: yeah, it happens on all distro's I've usd, it's simple to fix tho.  No GUI tool to do it yet though09:21
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thompanolimitsoya: the generic kernel should have smp09:21
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GeForcetmx: lol I always free a partition in Windows before installin linux09:22
pixelis there a plugin for Firefox that supports resume downloads from websites please?09:22
nolimitsoyapixel, flashgot09:22
GeForceAll I do is tell it: "Use the free partition space"09:22
thompanolimitsoya: linux-686-smp obsoleted by genric it says09:22
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bruenigflashgot requires a download manager though, I think09:22
TMX*has no spare partitions09:22
thompanolimitsoya: i can install it and see what happens09:23
nolimitsoyathompa, then im in at the deep end :)09:23
GeForcetmx: Then bend over and pray! lawls09:23
barrett9hflashgot + freeloader?09:23
pixelnolimitsoya: thanks09:23
TMXvista on one,another ntfs and then linux in an extended09:23
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GeForceahhh, Vista RC2%?09:23
TMXnope09:23
TMXRTM09:23
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GeForceAhh... Ic.09:23
TMX*was an official tester*09:23
thompanolimitsoya: i think something is wrong either in hardware detection or my hardware maybe, but it worries me09:23
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GeForceuh-huh09:24
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GeForceAnd you are an unofficial user now eh? lol09:24
TMXso they gave me a free copy of the version to be released in 4 days time :)09:24
GeForceah ok lol09:24
slonchohi. is there a way to make Totem to autolaunch when I insert DVD?09:24
thompanolimitsoya: im going to go back to kanotix and see if it detects 2 processors09:24
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GeForceI personnally am not using vista yet. Waiting for January.09:24
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GeForceAnd hell, Ubuntu is helping me greatly in my Vista craving09:24
TMXGeForce: I was going to wait, but I like playing with shiny new things :)09:25
GeForceUbuntu + AIGLX ftw09:25
qman|A64zok...I attempted to put the ubuntu live CD on my usb stick, but I'm having problems09:25
GeForceYeah I know the feeling09:25
qman|A64zI followed a guide for knoppix09:25
jamesb2147vista really isn't great.  can't even burn a dvd properly yet09:25
Wyvern|Does anyone have experience with installing a printer on Ubuntu server?09:25
TMXjamesb2147: did for me :)09:25
GeForcetmx: When you say that not too long ago, I almost felt like wiping XP and reinstalling ME just to see a good ol' BSOD...09:25
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qman|A64zmy stick is bootable, it contains the entire live CD09:25
nolimitsoyaqman|A64z, dont. follow the ubuntu guide in the wiki instead09:25
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qman|A64zwhere is that09:25
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qman|A64zbecause I can't find it09:25
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GeForceqman|A64z, : That's wrong in a couple of ways :D09:26
Jager-I hope vista turns out good, but Id still rather see linux preinstalled on factory built machines09:26
TMXGeForce: if you miss the BSOD's there is a registry patch you can add to make it BSOD on demand :)09:26
nolimitsoyaqman|A64z, besides, many motherboards cant boot from usb correctly, so your stick might be just fine - and still not working09:26
qman|A64zno09:26
qman|A64zit boots09:26
GeForcetmx: haha yeah I know09:26
Cosmonaut3030Hello. Can someone help me set up my IPW card?09:26
qman|A64zbut, it can't find the kernel image09:26
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qman|A64zit says /casper/.vml not found09:26
qman|A64zI have it booting and it has the ubuntu logo and all that09:26
elubieGeForce: The X-Server didn't start after I installed nvidia-glx and booted into generic. Error message was something like The NVIDIA is kernel module version 1.0_8774 and the X module version is 1.0_877609:26
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Cosmonaut3030Hello. Can someone help me set up my IPW card?09:27
jamesb2147i got a couple burnt, but as soon as my C:/ drive had less than 5 gbs avail, it all went kaput09:27
qman|A64zI can't use the CD to install, it refuses to work09:27
GeForceelubie: Hmmmm, the nvidia-module is of a higher version, odd09:27
qman|A64zso I need a guide to put it on my USB stick09:27
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qman|A64zI had 6.06 running on this same machine already, upgraded from 5.1009:27
jamesb2147it also wouldnt let me switch to my E:/ drive to store temp files.  D:/ it would, but not E:/, which had 28gbs free09:28
cmwebCan any one help me install dhcp support on my PC?09:28
GeForceelubie: Wait, reinstall the nvidia-glx with the new kernel, that might be it09:28
mat1n why couldnt u do dist-upgrade?09:28
qman|A64zit didn't work09:28
qman|A64zI ran dist upgrade and it simply didn't uprade09:28
qman|A64zupgrade09:28
elubieGeForce: eh the other way round, nvidia is lower version09:28
qman|A64zno errors09:28
qman|A64zjust didn't do it09:28
qman|A64zI had a couple other broken things anyway and wanted to start fresh09:28
GeForceelubie: Then sorry, I got no idea.... I just know that's how I did it09:28
mat1u try sudo dist-upgrade?09:28
qman|A64zI know how to dist upgrade09:29
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nolimitsoyaok, anyone else got a good suggestion for a linux native, non bloated torrent client that can load torrents from a directory automaticaly?09:29
elubieGeForce: np, might try to install nvidia-glx again09:29
TMXhmm, I wish the installer would tell you how big each mountable partition is when choosing the mount point.  Now I have to play a game of "guess which drive I am"09:29
qman|A64zthat's irrelevant now anyway, because the disk is already reformatted09:29
TokenBadok has something got changed for rar files...i tried to install rar but got not found..09:29
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GeForceelubie: inside the new kernel tho. If you do it on the old kernel, it wont work, I think09:30
qman|A64zI need to get the live CD booting from my USB stick09:30
nolimitsoyaTokenBad, no, nothing has changed. shows up just fine on an apt-cache search09:30
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qman|A64zand I can't find a guide for ubuntu09:30
TokenBadI did apt-cache and it says not there....09:30
TMXnolimitsoya: I think azureus can do the autoloading, but it's quite heavy09:30
qman|A64zI found one for gentoo which is useless and one for knoppix which got me where I am09:30
Jager-nolimitsoya: does dirMS usually perform faster than the windows defragger?09:30
nolimitsoyaTokenBad, then you havnt got the right repos09:31
elubieGeForce: hmm, that would mean the module on the generic kernel is older than the one on the 386 kernel09:31
nolimitsoyaTMX, yes, know. that why i added the 'non bloated'-line. thank anyway. :)09:31
cmwebCan any one help me install dhcp support for my ethernt network?09:31
nolimitsoyaJager-, in my experience, yes09:31
Jager--_-09:31
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nolimitsoyaJager-, unless you do the thorough defragmentation... that takes ages, but reduces future fragmentation a great deal09:32
TokenBadnolimitsoya, I find unrar...but not rar...I used to use rar09:32
nolimitsoyaTokenBad, as i said, open the right repos and you find it just fine :)09:32
TokenBadnolimitsoya, I have them all open...I just did that...09:32
jamesb2147how do i exit X server?09:32
TokenBadand updated09:32
Farhadwith witch command I can find bad sectors on my hard disk?09:32
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Jager-Ah dirms isnt freeware09:33
cmweb!dhcp09:33
ubotudhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB09:33
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GeForceelubie: I know that when u install the driver, it installs a kernel module. If the module is installed on the wrong kernel.....09:33
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GeForceo well'z09:33
ryanakcais there a good frontend to iptables?09:33
mat1jamesb2147 try ctrl +alt+backspace09:33
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nolimitsoyaTokenBad, still shows up just fine here. are you using dapper, or edgy? anyway, i find p7zip-full to be a much moreattractive piece of software09:33
sukeltjehi09:34
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TokenBadnolimitsoya, dapper09:34
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FarhadHow I can find bad sectors on my hard disk?09:34
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nolimitsoyaJager-, yes it is. you register for free, but have to renew the registration every month unless you pay a small fee09:34
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mat1scandik09:34
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nolimitsoyaTokenBad, ah, then i cant check for you... might be they took it out of dapper for some reason09:34
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nolimitsoyaryanakca, firestarter for a simple, user friendly gtk version, and shorewall for more advanced configuration09:35
sukeltjei have a question about a plugin, i found this on e107coders.org, the article name is: Submit Article - v1.0. I have a problem with it, i can submit an article, and accept it. Than it tells me it has been written to the database. But i dont know how to make: new article catagory's nor where to get the articles page where they are shown? any1 knows this plugin or can help me with it?09:35
Varjat_byHI! Is anybody know how to fix problem during LIRC driver compilatuin process. Error is "/bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory"09:35
Varjat_by?09:35
eNons3nseok.  i'm having a wifi problem.  i can use a wired connection straight to my router just fine.  i can connect to my wireless router just fine and network-manager even says i'm at 95-100% signal strength.  when i'm connected to wireless though my desktop internet doesnt work.  almost like i don't really have a connection.  everything worked fine with my wireless a couple weeks ago.09:36
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nolimitsoyaeNons3nse, sounds like a dns/router problem to me, and not an ubuntu one...09:36
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qman|A64zeNons3nse: is your DNS set up correctly?09:36
TMXeNons3nse: can you ping the router?09:36
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FarhadI want help!!!! How I can find bad sectors?09:37
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nolimitsoyaFarhad, scandisk09:37
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JowieNons3nse, see if another channel on the router works better. might be interference09:37
sukeltjei have a question about a plugin, i found this on e107coders.org, the article name is: Submit Article - v1.0. I have a problem with it, i can submit an article, and accept it. Than it tells me it has been written to the database. But i dont know how to make: new article catagory's nor where to get the articles page where they are shown? any1 knows this plugin or can help me with it?09:37
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Mongeyhow do i disable Ipv6 ?09:37
eNons3nseI don't know anything about changing DNS settings.  How do I ping my router?  like I said, up untill about a week and a half ago my wireless was working fine straight out of the box.09:37
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jamesb2147oh how i long for the days of ctl alt del...  i need to know how to properly install 3d acceleration nvidia drivers09:37
TMXeNons3nse: open up a shell, type "ping " then the address of the router09:38
ompaul!nvidia | jamesb214709:38
ubotujamesb2147: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:38
TMXthen execute it09:38
degushow do i do to  get wpa_supplicant to run automaticly when i start my computer (seems like i have to manually run wpa everytime to get my wireless to start09:38
Mongey!ipv609:38
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:38
Farhadnolimitsoya, Thanks09:38
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Mongey!permissions09:38
ubotuThe files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux09:38
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elubieGeForce: It worked! I just found out that there were newer linux-generic-restricted modules in the repo. After updating that it worked! Yikes!09:38
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TokenBadnolimitsoya, got it from rar website but it don't allow me to install it...just lets me run it from the extracted dir09:38
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yakumohi, how do install grub?09:38
eNons3nseTMX: would that be 192.168.100.1?09:38
elubieGeForce: so, many thanks :)09:39
GeForceelubie: grats :)09:39
TMXyup, so run "ping 192.168.100.1"09:39
Jowi!grub | yakumo09:39
ubotuyakumo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:39
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eNons3nseok.  one sec i have to connect to it so i'll loose this connection.09:39
nolimitsoyaTokenBad, you could get over to #ubuntu-motu and ask them what they did to your package :)09:39
TMXok09:39
TMXyou should see something like :09:39
TMX64 bytes from 66.102.9.104: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=171.057 ms09:39
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TMX(except that was me pinging google, not your router:))09:40
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yakumoif install windows my grub will be lost right?09:40
TMXyes09:40
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TMXif you create a boot floppy though, you can reinstall it09:41
Zaggynlbetter install windows, then linux :)09:41
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nolimitsoyahow do i "alt+f4" an application in a terminal/console?09:41
Zaggynlnolimitsoya, CTRL-C should do09:41
Jowiyakumo, not quite. your MBR will be overwritten but that can be fixed. see the grub page here09:41
Jowi!grub09:41
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:41
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nolimitsoyaZaggynl, thank you :)09:41
Zaggynlnolimitsoya, You're welcome.09:41
gregovan itt magyar?:-)09:41
yakumothnks09:41
anton_(alt + f4?)09:41
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eNons3nseTMX: I guess not.  I kept getting "Destination Net Unreachable" errors.09:42
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GeForceDamn, Steam seems to have crashed X09:42
GeForce:(09:42
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TMXeNons3nse: sounds like a problem with the router is most likely, has somebody mucked about with the wirless settings maybe?09:42
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wilee85how to I make it so a service automatically starts when the computer does?09:43
JowieNons3nse, try with another channel on the router09:43
sukeltjehey is there any1 here that is good with plugins?09:43
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TMXsukeltje: plugins for what?09:43
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Zaggynlanton_, (What you do in windows to shutdown an application)09:43
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Kalist00does anyone know if ATI drivers support dual screen with DRI?09:43
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JowieNons3nse, for example, if you use 6 now, set it to 3 or 9 or something. after that restart the wifi on the router and try again.09:43
conor!ipv609:43
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv409:43
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eNons3nseTMX:  actually.  I've never been able to change my wireless settings from the default.  the default admin password/username dont work.09:44
mborohovanyone know why some things are just plain black in beryl?09:44
sukeltjeTMX: for e107 :P can you help me with that?09:44
mborohovlike the menu?09:44
eNons3nseJowi, how do I do that?09:44
eNons3nseTMX: so i can't get into the settings inside my router, but no one else can either.09:44
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eNons3nseTMX: since no one knows the name/password.09:44
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conory0 i need ipv6 help09:45
sukeltjeTMX: i have a question about a plugin, i found this on e107coders.org, the article name is: Submit Article - v1.0. I have a problem with it, i can submit an article, and accept it. Than it tells me it has been written to the database. But i dont know how to make: new article catagory's nor where to get the articles page where they are shown? any1 knows this plugin or can help me with it?09:45
JowieNons3nse, depends on the router. log in to it. if you can not login with the default username/password there is always a way to physically reset it.09:45
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thinhi have a question09:45
TMXsukeltje: I'm afraid I've never used it, I'm a wordpress kinda guy :)09:45
wilee85how to I make it so a service automatically starts when the computer does?09:45
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thinhon my computer i have 2 floppy09:46
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TMXeNons3nse: it could be that someone has gained access to the router wirelessly and guessed the username and pass09:46
thinhfloppy1 and a floppy drive09:46
Jowiwilee85, see update-rc.d09:46
eNons3nseJowi: it's a linksys wrt54g and admin/admin doesn't work for the user/pass.  i tried pushing the reset button on the back and it still doesn't work.09:46
thinhfloppy 1 is pointing to /dev09:46
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TMXeNons3nse: I have one of those, its blank user, password admin09:46
dot_jwilee85: or system->prefs->session->startup tab09:46
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anirbanHow can I install Baghira theme for KDE09:47
sukeltjeTMX: no problem, do you know a different plugin that can do this: i want a plugin that lets members sumbit articles, witch have to be accepted by an admin. When they are added they come in a list witch can also be shown as a link in my menu, and preferably it should be possible to make article catagory's09:47
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conorok, my ipv6 problem, i deleted 2 things in my network settings... they had ipv6 on them09:47
anirbancan I use apt-get09:47
TMXsukeltje: fraid not :(09:47
thinhi cant access floppy 1 but when i do properties on it it says it 182gb which is the size of my drive09:47
JowieNons3nse, leave the username field blank and enter "admin" without quotes as the password09:48
eNons3nseTMX:  i'll try that.  so once i'm there I should try to change the channel that it's running on?09:48
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TMXchange the channel, double check the settings are what you expect them to be09:48
eNons3nseok.  back in a few.09:48
TMXand if it's been left at the default settings, it's ip address should be 192.168.1.109:48
sukeltjeTMX: darn, np... do you know a site that has GOOD easy plugins?09:48
thinhanyone help me with a floppy 1 issue09:49
sgirchi all09:49
matroblendCan you remame a backup conf file from live cd?09:49
qman|A64zas long as the file is on a supported filesystem on a rewritable media09:49
Jowimatroblend, is the conf file on the harddisk?09:50
sgircwhat is the command to plug /unplug a usb device (a modem i.e.) ?09:50
matroblendyes09:50
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conorhow do i reset my network settings to default ?09:50
TMXsukeltje: best bet is to see if there is an irc channel for e107 users, get their opinion09:50
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Jowimatroblend, yes you can.09:50
sukeltjeomg09:50
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anirbanI got it apt-get install kwin-baghira09:50
TMXsukeltje: try #e10709:51
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sukeltjethis is the ubuntu channel :P ROFL i didnt even see that!!! thought i joined #e107! ROFL :P HAHA ty anyway :D09:51
sgirci just know lsusb that lists all connected usb devices09:51
TMXlol :D09:51
matroblendIf I try to rename backup it says I can't write09:51
sukeltjeyes, thanks :P omg STUPID ME :P hehe09:51
sewoylsgirc: I was surprised too the first time^^09:51
thinhi have a floppy 1 that is point to /dev the size is 182gb which is the size of my hd, should that be my file system or hd?09:51
sewoyli meant sukeltje09:51
Jowimatroblend, open a terminal and type "sudo -i" to get a root prompt. now you can rename it with "mv oldname newname"09:51
sukeltjerofl :P09:51
sgircsewoyl: and now ?09:51
cmwebOk i installed the DHCP and it failed to start up any one?09:52
sewoylsgirc: i didnt mean you, sorry :)09:52
sgircok09:52
eNons3nseTMX & Jowi:  that doesn't work.  still can't get into my router settings.  tried the routers reset button as well.09:52
sewoylsgirc: what r you trying to do ? i just got here09:52
ciarononce i've booted off my ubntu live cd09:52
ciaronhow do i mount my windows drives?09:52
matroblendJowi Ty I can do that from a live cd?09:52
TMXeNons3nse: ah, if you've reset it that completely wipes the routers memory09:52
sewoylciaron: arent they mountent automatically ?09:53
ciaronno09:53
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TMXeNons3nse: the essid will be linksys now, with no encrption09:53
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ciaronand when i try and browse it in "Places" it gives some error about it not being removable09:53
Jowimatroblend, yes09:53
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Jowimatroblend, you need to mount your hard disk partition first but that's it09:53
sewoylciaron: forst,create a folder for each windows drive in /media/09:53
ciaronah its a 6.06 "feature"09:53
matroblendJowi k will try09:53
eNons3nseTMX: maybe the reset didn't work then because it's still coming up as the old name for the router.09:53
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mborohovhey guys09:54
mborohovso i have beryl sort of working09:54
mborohovexcept now every single window i open is black09:54
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mborohovany ideas?09:54
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sgircsewoyl: when I lust want to safely unplug my usb modem so thaht next time I plug it is automatically recognized09:54
TMXeNons3nse: are you connected to it by wires?09:54
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JowieNons3nse, if the reset worked its ip address should be 192.168.1.109:54
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sgircsewoyl:  I just want to safely unplug my usb modem so that next time I plug it, it is automatically recognized09:54
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sewoylsgirc: sorry I have no experience with usb modems whatsoever, always had ethernet modems :s09:55
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sewoylsgirc: which by the way, should be the onlymodems manufactures ^^09:55
sewoylmanugactured*09:55
thinhcan i delete a device that is pointing /dev?09:55
eNons3nseTMX: no.  when i'm on this wired connection i'm running an ethernet cord straight from my modem.09:55
mirakFATAL: Error inserting lirc_serial (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/misc/lirc_serial.ko): Device or resource busy09:55
mirakhow can I know wich module is blocking the device ?09:55
matroblendJowi Why can't I just click on the gui file and rename it?09:56
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DreamerHxChi everyone09:56
Jowimatroblend, because the GUI is not root/admin user09:56
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matroblendJowi Oh grrr09:56
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TMXeNons3nse: maybe try wiring straight into the router, and trying to access the routers control panel09:57
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Pelomatroblend,   open the terminal ,  type  gksu nautilus,  that will open nautilus as root, you can rename your file from there, in gui form09:57
thinhi have an extra floppy 1 on my  computer desktop, how do i get rid of it, it is mount to /dev for some reason09:57
eNons3nseTMX: i don't have enough eithernet cables.  only have the one.09:57
eNons3nseha09:57
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RaiderXdoes anyone know how to fix the problem with Photoshop 7 in Wine failing "to initialize VBox"?09:57
eNons3nsewell.  let me check.09:57
aMohammedhey there ! Is it possible to install GDM on KDE without Gnome core ?09:58
JowieNons3nse, actually, what you should do is to call linksys support if you can not login to it or reset it09:58
PeloRaiderX,   try in  #winehq09:58
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RaiderXok pelo thx09:58
eNons3nseJowi: *cringe*09:58
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cwillu!codecs09:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:58
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conorhow do i reset my network settings to default ?09:58
matroblendPelo ty can you do that from a live cd to the hd09:59
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JowieNons3nse, yep. but they might help you reset it or even replace it if it is faulty.09:59
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Pelomatroblend,  don't know , try it09:59
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matroblendPelo ty09:59
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eNons3nseJowi: what happens when I tell them I'm using Linux?  haha.  "sorry sir, we're not handled to support you."09:59
tonyyarussoeNons3nse: You don't tell them.  Period.  Make it up if you have to.09:59
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Hexidigitalcan someone help me with iptables?  i have a router behind my ubuntu machine, dns resolves names and addresses for client machines, however they cannot view web pages09:59
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JowieNons3nse, shouldn't matter. (used to work for ughhhh D-Link support and we didn't care which OS was used)10:00
TMXeNons3nse: just don't tell them that :P I do it all the time, just silently transpose windows instructions to linux ones :)10:00
tonyyarussoyep10:00
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eNons3nsei actually found another e-net cable.10:00
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JowieNons3nse, ...or do what TMX say :)10:01
MorrisseyOk, with a clean user (wich I just added to kde) I can run beryl-xgl with no problems :) But when I try to use it with my default user (wich Ive used for over a year with all of my settings) I get "Another window manager is allready running." and "No managaeble screens found on display" Can anyone help?10:01
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TMXlinksys are pretty god with linux anyway, almost all their router firmware is embedded linux10:01
aMohammedIs it possible to install GDM on Kubuntu without Gnome core ?10:01
tonyyarussoTMX: Not v510:01
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HoagieHey. I'm having trouble connecting to the internet. I'm trying to use a USB ASDL modem, but I'm not quite sure where to start. I only installed ubuntu a few hours ago, so I'm a total newbie.10:01
TMXtonyyarusso: *almost* :)10:01
dsnydersHi all!  How do I add my floppy drive to /media?10:01
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JowiHoagie, in a terminal - "sudo pppoeconf" and follow the instructions10:02
Kengurhi10:02
tonyyarussoTMX: Which is why I bought the new GL one :)10:02
Kengurcan anyone help with network problem?10:02
HoagieJowi: Cheers10:02
nolimitsoyadsnyders, make a directory, and moun with 'sudo mount /dev/fd0 -t dosfs /media/<directory you created>'10:02
nolimitsoya!ask | Kengur10:03
ubotuKengur: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:03
TMXtonyyarusso: I've got an original wrt54g v3 :)10:03
ryanakcadoes anybody know of a good, easy to use frontend for iptables? or even a link to a iptables howto?10:03
ryanakca!iptables10:03
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).10:03
aMohammedIs it possible to install GDM on Kubuntu without Gnome core ?10:03
Jowiryanakca, firestarter is ok10:03
TMX!gdm10:03
ubotugdm: GNOME Display Manager. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 1686 kB, installed size 12300 kB10:03
TMXhmm, no extra info there :/10:03
dsnydersnolimitsoya, Perhaps I mis-stated the problem.  /media contains dynamic mount points, but when I put a floppy in the drive one is not created.10:04
nolimitsoyaryanakca, i awnsered you once alreadly. firestarter or shorewall depending on your needs,and 'man iptables' at a console to read the documentation10:04
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Kenguri get a ADSL over PPPoE, so i basically have a eithernet connection, and i have constant network getting down for no reason10:04
tonyyarussoTMX: apt-cache show gdm, and look at the depends10:04
nolimitsoyadsnyders, well, youll have to mount manualy i think... i dont use floppies much :)10:04
Peloryanakca, http://qtables.radom.org/10:04
JowiKengur, so the connection works but disconnects after awhile?10:04
nolimitsoya(anymore)10:04
Kengurdmesg says something like this...  Neighbour table overflow.  printk: 15 messages suppressed.10:04
ryanakcanolimitsoya: firestarter doesn't answer my needs... and shorewall seems overly complicated for what I'm trying to do :)10:04
ryanakcaPelo: thanks :)10:04
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Moosejawhey all10:04
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dsnydersnolimitsoya, I don't either.  However, I have a few things I need to get off of some floppys.10:05
KengurJowi: yes, i use torrent most of the time at 90 percent of my bandwidth, that's it10:05
Moosejawdo i have to install ndiswrapper from a specific place for it to install correctly?  Currently I am compiling the source and installing from Desktop but it doesnt seem to be working10:05
nolimitsoyadsnyders, well, manual mount is always painless :)10:05
whtaHello again, I need some assistance mounting my other hard drives so I can get to them from ubuntu :o10:05
JowiKengur, does it only disconnect when using high bandwidth?10:05
Moosejawi have also tried to do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper but i get a cannot locate E: error10:05
nolimitsoya!mount | whta10:05
ubotuwhta: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks10:05
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dsnydersnolimitsoya, Oh I wish that were so.10:06
TMXaMohammed: it doesn't look like it i'm afraid, has a boatload of dependancies.  do it via apt-get install and it will tell you what it needs before installing10:06
Kengurum, dunno, does the dmesg log says anything that might give a clue?10:06
nolimitsoyadsnyders, when has it ever failed? :) or is it now?10:06
KengurNeighbour table overflow.  printk: 15 messages suppressed.10:06
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whtaumm.. System > Administration > Disks does not exist10:06
aMohammedok , thanks10:06
nolimitsoyawhta, then type 'man mount' in a terminal10:07
Moosejawcan someone help me with my ndiswrapper questions?10:07
dsnydersnolimitsoya, I've had problems in the past.  No point getting into them.10:07
Kenguri mean it usually get's down when i'm not around, so i can't say if it's actively downloading or not10:07
whtanolimitsoya: done..10:07
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JowiKengur, not sure. Maybe it is possible to change the MTU value in the modem. depends on modem to modem. if you can login to a web based setup page in the modem it should be possible to change some values. but you need to contact your ISP to see which MTU or other settings that should be there.10:07
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TMX!init10:08
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:08
nolimitsoyawhta, good. then read it through and use it :) then try man fstab, and adapt what you have just learned10:08
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KengurJowi: the problem is it never appeared under windows or fedora core10:09
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JowiKengur, disconnections can be tough to troubleshoot. see if you can use a livecd (of fedora or something) to see if the problem exist there. if not, it is something wrong with the driver. if the same problem exist, contact your isp.10:10
KengurJowi: can it be that someone outside is trying to bring the connection down? may be i need a firewall or smthng?10:11
eNons3nseOK.  the reset worked and i could get into my router settings wirelessly.  I canged the channel and that didn't work.  I also hooked up a wired connection through my router and that didn't work either.  so is it pretty safe to say that it's a problem with my router.10:11
JowiKengur, not likely.10:11
HoagieI'm trying to get my internet working under ubuntu. I'm using a USB BT Voyager 105 modem. When plugged into my laptop, I get the power light, but the DSL light is off. How can I sort it?10:11
JowiKengur, might be a problem with A. settings or driver or B. hardware (filter, modem, cables)10:11
mirak setserial /dev/ttyUSB010:12
mirakCannot get serial info: Invalid argument10:12
mirakanyone already had this ?10:12
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HoagieI've used pppoef config, with no result.10:12
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PeloHoagie,   look up your modem model and number in the forum10:12
KengurJowi: i didn't have this problem under fedora core, so it might be ubuntu thingy =(10:13
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JowiKengur, might be. hard for me to make an oppinion about at this moment unfortunatly10:13
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emiliahey does anyone know what i could use to receive faxes in ubuntu?10:13
JowiHoagie, did pppoeconf detect your modem?10:13
g333k_workhi, how to comment an amount of lines in dhcpd.conf?10:13
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Kengurwell anyways, i'll google a bit on this one... how do i change grub boot option permanently?? i need to use "noapic"10:13
HoagieJowi: Nope.10:14
DreamerHxCI have problems with my ATI card, sometimes I can boot in graphic mode, sometimes I cannot. I have just entered in graphic mode and I have pasted my xorg.conf, Xor.0.log and my fglxinfo, can somebody help me please?10:14
wilee85how do I run a program in terminal so it will run the program in the background and I can continue using terminal?10:14
JowiHoagie, then the driver is not loaded probably. hang on10:14
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yalokiKengur: /boot/grub/menu.lst10:14
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bluefox83Kengur, man grub, find the file you need to change..think it's in /boot/grub/10:14
Kengurthanks10:14
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dot_jwilee85: command &10:15
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sgircsewoyl: Sorry I was disconnected I just want to safely unplug my usb modem so that next time I plug it, it is automatically recognized10:15
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Kenguranyone here actually from development or release team?10:17
=== Pelo ROFL , Kengur you have to be kidding
Kengurwell um.. i guess i am =)10:17
sn9Kengur: sometimes they are, but not usually10:17
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MajicNope, just a bunch of people who helped develop it. :p10:18
yalokiPelo: why, no ubuntu packagers around here ?10:18
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bill-barriere?10:18
bill-barrierewhat a weird distro10:18
yalokiMajic: you're an apt committer ?10:18
Majic0.o  No...10:18
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qman|A64well, I finally got things working10:19
sewoylsgirc: sorry I dont know anything about usb modems10:19
KengurPelo: i just think i might have a point that is useful to consider... i used to spend a while myself to resolve it10:19
Pelobill-barriere,  what is so weird about it ?10:19
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qman|A64it's formatting the drive partitions right now10:19
JowiHoagie, see what you can get from this page: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (follow the instructions and see if you can find your modem in the list)10:19
PeloKengur,   that's what the forum is for10:19
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sn9sgirc: you have a usb modem? my, how i don't envy you...10:20
HoagieJowi: Thanks a billion. I've really gotta go offline now, but I'll bookmark it.10:20
KengurPelo: but it would be nice to switch this on by "default"10:20
DreamerHxCI have problems with my ATI card, sometimes I can boot in graphic mode, sometimes I cannot. I have just entered in graphic mode and I have pasted my xorg.conf, Xor.0.log and my glxinfo, can somebody help me please?10:20
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Jowinp Hoagie I hope it sort itself10:20
dtsI just tried to plug in my ipod and it shows up on the computer, but if i try to click on it i get mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /media/usbdisk busy10:20
HoagieJowi: Cheerio!10:20
dtseventhough it's not mounted anywhere10:20
sgircsn9: I consider myself lucky coz I found drivers...10:20
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sn9sgirc: linuxant?10:21
sgircno connexant10:21
sgircaccessrunner10:21
qman|A64I need to break down and buy some more memory for that thing...the live environment runs like absolute crap on 256MB, I had to turn on the swap partition to get it to be responsive10:21
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whtaI'm still having trouble figuring out how to mount a drive i have =\10:21
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sn9sgirc: oh, cable. i thought you were talking about usb dial-up10:21
KengurPelo: in previous version of kernel by SATA drive (no raid) worked fine, and now it doesn't untill i use "noapic", nForce4 is pretty widely used for that matter...10:21
sgircsn9: yes ADSL10:22
Peloemilia,  menu  applications > add/remove , search for fax10:22
KengurPelo: nobody actually gave me any clues about this10:22
PeloKengur,  I can'T help you10:22
sethkwhta, what kind of drive, file system, etc?10:22
sn9sgirc: adsl isn't as big a deal, unless you're on pppoa or something10:22
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sethkKengur, if it works with noapic, then what's the problem?10:23
GhoSt_DoGHi, how i install codecs ?10:23
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sgircsn9: I'm  on pppoa10:23
GhoSt_DoGsudo apt-get install w32codecs ?10:23
MitchMsince my install of 6.10 sudo no-longer requires the password after the "first" time a user correctly enters a password. How can I change this?10:23
whtasethk: regular ol' IDE HD, ntfs but I only need it for reading files anyway10:23
MitchM/etc/sudoers does not seem to be the problem10:23
sn9!w32codecs | GhoSt_DoG10:23
ubotuGhoSt_DoG: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:23
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sgircsn9: ADSL line is up10:23
Cpudan80Hello everyone10:23
sethkMitchM, visudo, get rid of the NOPASSWD modifier(s)10:23
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Cpudan80Where can I find an Ubuntu DVD?10:23
MitchMsethk, none there.10:23
PeloCpudan80,   easiest way is  torrents10:24
Cpudan80ubuntu.com offers up a single CD --- but I have a feeling that isn't the whole thing10:24
fabiimgood lightweight laptop for linux , not powerfuul graphics , lots of  ram , small disk ,  where to find ?10:24
qman|A64whta: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/disk (assuming hda1 is it and /mnt/disk is where you want it)10:24
MitchMsethk, Doesnt seem to be a problem with /etc/sudoers10:24
Kengursethk: I'm quite a newb myself, but there might be other people who are even more newbies than myself =) they might not get this sorted out10:24
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sgircsn9: and I configured a ppp interface, but when lanching pppd I get an error in my logs10:24
whtathanks qman, i'll try it out10:24
MitchMAfter sudo'ing the file sudo_as_admin_successful is left in the $HOME dir10:24
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MitchMbut removing it also does not make them type the passwd again10:24
sethkMitchM, I'd get rid of sudo altogtether, the way ubuntu sets it up it's a huge security hole.  set the root password, remove all sudo permissions.10:24
MitchMsethk, I have one user that needs sudo access.10:25
sethkMitchM, ok10:25
goukisethk: Why is it a security problem, the way the sudo is configured?10:25
sethkMitchM, let me see if there is a global configuration for that10:25
MitchMsethk, without _all_ of the root privleges.10:25
sethkMitchM, ok, let me see if there is any global config10:25
qman|A64actually, sudo is meant to improve security...just configure the sudoers file with visudo10:25
sn9sgirc: i knew someone who used mandrake because it had out-of-the-box support for pppoa adsl over usb, but he hated mandrake. i had him try ubuntu, and he loved it, but he did have to buy a different adsl modem10:25
sethkgouki, one password allowing you to do _everything_?  and not even an admin password?  ugh.10:25
Kengursethk: might be a good option to turn this on by default if the system has nforce and sata drive10:25
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sethkKengur, I don't disagree10:26
whtaqman: Says the mount point does not exist10:26
MitchMin /etc/pam.d/sudo it had two include lines10:26
qman|A64whta: you must create a folder to mount it to10:26
MitchMbut i do not know if those are the cuplrits or not10:26
MitchMculprits*10:26
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goukisethk: If you didn't have sudo, you would need to enter SU mode, which, also let's you do everything. At least with sudo, it's only temporary SU powers10:26
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qman|A64whta: mkdir folder10:26
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sethkMitchM, I'd have to look.  I don't have edgy on this box and I can't get to my edgy box at the moment.10:26
sethkgouki, not true.  they allow sudo -i10:27
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qman|A64sethk: that's what visudo is for10:27
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qman|A64it allows you to choose who can do what10:27
qman|A64by default, the first user is allowed full privileges10:27
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qman|A64the whole point of sudo is securing root privileges10:27
sethkqman|A64, I said the way _ubuntu_ sets it up by default is a huge security hole.  not that it can't be properly configured, that it _isn't_ properly configured10:27
sn9qman|A64: by default, it goes by group, not user, iirc10:28
sgircsn9:there is really no other solution ?10:28
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goukisethk: You only use sudo -i IF you want it. I'm sure most of the new people don't even know it's possible to do that10:28
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tonyyarussoHow do I launch getty/login for ttys greater than 6?10:28
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sn9sethk: nobody has it "properly" configured by default10:28
whtaqman: Now it says "special device hda1" does not exist. I'm not POSITIVE which hda# this drive is, but eh, what do you suggest?10:28
sethkgouki, hiding a capability is not security10:29
goukisethk: IMHO, sudo -i and SU are almost the same thing. While sudo is the safer...10:29
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sn9sgirc: there wasn't then, when 5.04 was the latest release and 5.10 was just about to be10:29
sethkgouki, no, sudo -i is worse, because it can be configured to not require any password.10:29
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sn9sgirc: i haven't investigated it since10:29
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Varjat_byHI! Is anybody know how to fix problem during LIRC driver compilation process. Error is "/bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory"?10:29
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PriceChildHow can i get a wiki page to redirect to another one?10:30
yalokisethk: arguably, if you don't give the permission to do so in the first place, you can't do that. the problem is rather having that preconfigured for the non-root user by default on ubuntu.10:30
qman|A64whta: sudo fdisk -l, it will tell you what disks are where10:30
goukisethk: Weren't you talking about DEFAULTS? By default, sudo -i REQUIRES password - I'm sure with some hacking, su can be configured to not ask a password either10:30
yalokisethk: eh, oh, which is your original point ^^ indeed, I agree ;)10:30
RaiderXHow do you check terminal output?10:30
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PeloPriceChild,  this is hardly the channel for that question10:30
GhoSt_DoGhow i install codecs for totem ?10:30
OlatheHow do I shut Xorg down ?10:30
sewoylRaiderX: output of what?10:30
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sn9GhoSt_DoG: 6.06 or 6.10?10:30
PriceChildPelo: I'm sorry, but i'm unsure as to where to ask it10:31
spacebearsame do i wonder...how to reconf xorg and shut it down10:31
sewoylOlathe: restart with ctrl alt backspace10:31
Varjat_byOlathe: ctrl+alt+backspace10:31
Cpudan80Pelo: I still only see a CD ISO...10:31
RaiderXsewoyl any program thats running10:31
Cpudan80Shouldn't it be like 5 CDs?10:31
PriceChildGhoSt_DoG: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:31
PeloPriceChild,  I am sure there is a  #wiki channel somewhere10:31
RaiderXlike when i run something in wine10:31
MitchMsethk, Found it; timestamp_timeout=010:31
Jager-is there a key combo to open the process manager thing.. similar to ctrl+alt+delete?10:31
whtaqman: ok, got it mounted. now how do I make this folder accessible?10:31
sewoylRaiderX: usually if you start the programfrom a terminal youll get the output10:31
MitchMsethk, Had to add that to /etc/sudoers10:31
PeloCpudan80,  try www.torrentz..com10:31
Pelowww.torrentz.com10:31
sethkMitchM, amazing, I didn't think they could make the default configuration worse, but they did.10:31
sethkMitchM, thanks.10:31
RaiderXok sewoyl ill try to figure this out10:31
OlatheI don't want to restart it.10:32
PriceChildPelo: maybe docs...10:32
sgircsn9: I'm feeling I'm close to make it run! but I think the problem lies in my peers config file. What I need know is the command one must use to disable a usb device (not specifically a modem). In example to unplud a usb drive you type umount /mnt/uba but when its not a storage device how to do that ?10:32
OlatheI want to stop it.10:32
ryanakcanolimitsoya: ok, I have firewall script loaded, but I can still ftp to my host... what's going on? (script) http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/firewall110:32
sewoylRaiderX: for exemple type in gedit in the terminal10:32
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ryanakcaOlathe: ctrl-alt-backspace... or ctrl-alt-f1, log in, go "sudo killall Xorg"10:32
MitchMsethk, :) thank you10:32
mborohovso im now running Xgl10:32
mborohovand its working fine10:32
Viroohi10:32
mborohovit just doesnt work with AiGLX apparently10:32
sn9sgirc: if it's not a storage device, just unplugging is usually good enough10:32
mborohovyay10:32
PeloCpudan80,  http://bushtorrent.com/torrent.php?id=64104310:32
ryanakcaOlathe: I mean "sudo killall X"10:33
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ryanakcaOlathe: might want to go "sudo killall gdm" as well :)10:33
spacebearin dmesg i find early in log -- Console colour VGA+ 80x25  <---- how do i change that10:33
sgircsn9: I do it that way, the next time I plug it,linux doesn't recognize it, untill I reboot10:33
Cpudan80Pelo: Does the DVD include packages from KDE? Like ehh Konversation?10:33
Cpudan80Or will I need Kubuntu to get both10:33
sethkspacebear, change it to what?10:33
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tonyyarussoI don't have X running and would like to create more consoles than the default 6 - how?10:33
Fackamatosudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop is better imo10:33
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spacebearso it uses my fullscreen10:34
PeloCpudan80,   probably,  are you looking for kubuntu ? because there are dvd for that to10:34
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spacebearit uses just a square in the middle10:34
sethkCpudan80, you can install anything in regular ubuntu that you can install in kubuntu10:34
ryanakcaFackamato: of course :)10:34
qman|A64nice, my network card works by default in 6.1010:34
sn9sgirc: after unplugging, but before replugging, try unloading the driver with rmmod10:34
qman|A64had to use ndiswrapper before10:34
sethkspacebear, try adding     vga=ask        to your kernel command line in menu.lst10:34
Cpudan80Pelo: sethk No -- I like GNOME -- but I do like some of the KDE apps10:34
Cpudan80Like Konversation10:34
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ryanakcaCpudan80: sudo apt-get install konversation ?10:34
sethkCpudan80, I'm a kde user, so I won't argue.  my answer is the same.  you can install any kde program you want.  the package manager will take care of any dependencies10:35
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PeloCpudan80, it is probably in there,  it's the dvd it contains all the packages, only the install is for gnome instead or kde10:35
sgircsn9: no param ?10:35
spacebearok thnx ill try10:35
sn9sgirc: the name of the module10:35
Cpudan80Pelo: Ok thanks -- was just wondering10:35
Cpudan80Suse 10.1 has been misbehaving10:35
Cpudan80So its getting the axe10:35
whtaqman: when i try to chmod my directory I mounted the disk to, it won't change. it says it's changed to "read-only file system" but I can't get into it10:35
ryanakcalol10:35
sethkwhta, that has nothing to do with the permissions of the mount point10:36
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sethkwhta, you need the options uid= and gid= on the mount command.10:36
Pelomissbehaving or not it should get the axes just because of the MS deal10:36
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bruenigThere is supposed to be a FreeSuse fork10:36
sgircsn9: sorry I don't know the name of the usb driver module ...10:36
whtasethk: hmm, what do i have to do to repair this?10:36
sethkwhta, it's a kludge for handling file systems that don't implement permissions10:36
qman|A64whta: ntfs can only be mounted read only, write support is unstable10:36
Pelobruenig,  there is opensuse10:36
sethkwhta, umount it, and mount it again with the options.10:36
bruenigopensuse is not the same as this fork10:36
sethkwhta, if it's ntfs, qman has a good point10:36
aka_druid_bruenig: really? With only free software in it?10:36
bruenigas it is tied to novell10:37
kishanhow to mount my ntfs hard drive in ubuntu live10:37
kishancan any one help plese10:37
Kengurerr... i got this http://nice3z.myfinejob.com/node/3 but i can't figure out how to echo into that var with sudo =( says permission denied10:37
sethkwhta, there is ntfs write support that is supposedly safe, but it is much too new to rely on IMO10:37
sn9sethk: a read-only fs is not a permissions error10:37
sethksn9, I didn't say it was10:37
sn9!ntfs-3g | whta10:37
ubotuwhta: ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171010:37
whtasethk: I don't need the write support at the moment so read only is fine10:37
sgircsn9: usbcore ?10:37
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sethkwhta, hmm, then I must have misunderstood your question.10:38
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sn9sgirc: no, that's all of usb. you want the one specific to your device10:38
kishancan any one help me to mount the ntfs harddrive when i boot from kubuntu live cd10:38
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kuzmasterhey all10:38
whtasethl: don't worry. i just need to be able to get into the folder to access the files.. unless i need write support to do that? I don't think I needed it before10:38
cmwebDoes any one know what a good "C++" Compiler is?10:38
kuzmasteri have a really quick question.......10:38
sethkwhta, anyway, what I was talking about applies to which user can access the files.  even on a read only mount, you may need uid=/gid= to allow the desired user to read the files.10:38
cmwebI mean where i could get one10:38
sethkwhta, you don't need write support to read.  :)10:39
yalokicmweb: a lie10:39
sn9sethk: umask= is more convenient for that anyway10:39
yalokicmweb: gcc-c++10:39
whtasethk: so what would the command be? what do i put for uid and gid?10:39
kuzmasterhow do i mount a hardrive from the live ubuntu 6.06?10:39
cmweb:-X10:39
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Pelocmweb,  check synaptic and try them out10:39
sethksn9, I don't think it is, but convenience is a matter of opinion.10:39
cmwebWhy a lie?10:39
kuzmasterthe file system is fat1610:39
bruenigkuzmaster, sudo mount -t (whatever the filesystem is) /dev/(harddrive name) /mount/point10:39
aka_druid_bruenig: sounds like a very good idea. When its releasing?10:39
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kuzmasterk thanx...................10:40
cmwebgcc-c++, is not a package in Synaptic10:40
sethkwhta, at the command prompt, do the "id" command.  it will tell you the user and group IDs10:40
yalokicmweb: because C++ is awful in the first place but well..10:40
yalokicmweb: dunno what the cryptic name is on ubuntu10:40
ryanakcaI have my firewall script loaded into iptables, but I can still ftp to my host... what's going on? (script) http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/firewall110:40
rushdycmweb, theres a package build-essential10:40
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sn9cmweb: it's just g++10:40
ryanakcag++10:40
cmwebg+++ how original10:41
whtasethk: will doing this add that awesome hard drive icon onto my desktop too? ;D10:41
Pelocmeme,  just seach for  C ++ compiler , don'T search for a specific app10:41
kuzmasterbruenig: so where you wrote "what ever the file system is" i just replace that with "fat16"?10:41
sgircsn9: pppoatm.ko ? does this seems a possible module to remove ?10:41
bruenigkuzmaster, if it is fat16, then yes. I haven't seen a fat16 filesystem in forever. So make sure that is what it is.10:41
cmwebTOO many choices what do i pick for the search C++10:41
sethkwhta, I don't think so, no.  I don't bother with icons.10:41
aka_druid_bruenig: Im very interested. Would you please keep me informed? Or show me a place where we can discuss that10:41
bruenigaka_druid_, probably just a thought now. Here is the story http://boycottnovell.com/2006/11/22/suse-ubuntu/10:41
sethkcmweb, build_essential installs the c compiler and I believe the c++ portion as well.10:42
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kuzmasterit is, i just made it fat16 cos i want to install windows 3.1 :)10:42
sethkcmweb, install it, then if g++ exists, you have it.  otherwise, g++ needs the common part and the C part anyway, so you lose nothing10:42
sn9sgirc: that one handles the pppoa protocol, but i'm thinking you want the one that drives the usb adsl device itself10:42
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cmwebsethk: What? install what Build _essentials i thought it was just an installation option10:43
aka_druid_bruenig: I understand. Unfortunately its hard to run thoughts in my computer. I will be glad to help when there is software instead of thoughts10:43
sethkcmweb, there is a package named "build_essential"   no capital letters, no extra spaces, no s at the end10:43
kuzmaster!mount10:43
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks10:43
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bruenigaka_druid_, I bet it comes. If ubuntu did what novell did, I would be all for a FreeUbuntu fork. I could certainly see Suse users who think the same10:44
sn9cmweb: there is a metapackage called "build-essential" (dash, not _) in synaptic10:44
cmwebsethk: No theirs not i just synaptic it. No results10:44
yalokibruenig: well, ubuntu is already a fork10:44
aka_druid_bruenig: I understand10:44
cmwebsn9, ive already got build-essential10:44
sethkcmweb, I might have typed _ instead of -, sorry10:45
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sethkcmweb, do:   which g++10:45
sethkcmweb, see if it's there10:45
sn9cmweb: then just add g++. if you want something graphical, try anjuta10:45
cmweb:-)10:45
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cmwebYAY a gui10:46
sgircsn9: to make my system recognize the modem I had to put the firmware file cxacru-fw.bin in /lib/firmware. is it what I need to remove ?10:46
bruenigyaloki, good point???10:46
sn9sgirc: no10:46
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cmwebOKedokie im downloain10:46
kingacehello, once ubuntu is installed, can you add a swap parition?10:46
kingace*partition10:46
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yalokibruenig: well it just seems you like forks ^^10:46
bruenigkingace, you could10:46
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qman|A64kingace: if you have enough space left on the disk to put it on10:46
bruenigyaloki, no reason to start from scratch when a solid base exists10:47
sgircsn9: it's the only thing that is specific to my modem !!10:47
sn9sgirc: sudo rmmod cxacru10:47
kingacebut how exactly would you do it10:47
yalokiactually, one could even say ubuntu is a hostile fork10:47
kingaceadd the partition and mount it?10:47
kingaceand thats it?10:47
qman|A64you can do it after anyway, but it gets more complicated if you only have one big partition filling hte disk10:47
yalokibruenig: indeed10:47
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kingaceqman: no that isnt the situation10:47
bruenigkingace, you would need to create it. Put an entry in the fstab and that would be it10:47
kingacealrighty thanks10:47
qman|A64to use a swap partition, just use 'sudo swapon /dev/hda2' or whatever it is10:47
cmweb!gamepad10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gamepad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
sgircsn9: ok thanks I will try it this right now10:47
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aka_druid_bruenig: you are assuming debian is a solid base, right?10:48
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bruenigaka_druid_, not necessarily. I would just defending the practice of forking. In this case, ubuntu would be a solid base10:48
kuzmasterwhat is the command line for copying files from one place to another?10:48
kuzmasterplease?10:49
bruenigkuzmaster, cp file newfile10:49
cmwebOk wile my Compiler is downloading, does any one know how to install a "Game Essentials" Game Pad?10:49
kuzmasterthanx10:49
aka_druid_bruenig: based in another solid base, then10:49
aka_druid_otherwise it woudlnt be solid10:49
kishankuzmaster, were you be able mount the hard drive10:49
MorrisseyOk, I have two questions concerning beryl. 1. Can I make windows only show on the desktop they are opened it on the taskbar? So if "xchat" is on one desktop, it doesnt appear on other. 2. how can I disable transperancy (Since its slowing my computer). In advance, thanks10:49
Pelokuzmaster, http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php10:49
kuzmasterso... cp (old location) (new location)10:49
kuzmasterthanx pelo10:49
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bruenigdebian is fairly solid at least abstractly. The debs and the repos and whatnot.10:49
sn9cmweb: it might just work if you just plug it in10:49
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cmwebsn(, i just did and the stuff aint working. It has a mouse and i pressed the button for the mouse and it wont move10:50
uyannI'm in installing Java using automatix, and this licence agreement from Sun pops-up.. there is an Ok button that I can't click on... I tried pressing Enter and spacebar.. none of them will let me continue...10:50
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brueniguyann, you need to use the tab to get to the ok10:51
quicojukeep getting this error using gpc: gpc error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory10:51
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bruenig!automatix | uyann10:51
ubotuuyann: automatix is is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Since it is often hard to track and solve problems caused by Automatix, you might find it easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:51
quicojuany suggetion?10:51
Pelouyann,  try tabing to the location10:51
sn9cmweb: it would probably be seen as a joystick device, not a mouse device10:51
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sethkquicoju, that file is part of the standard C library.  how are you getting that?10:51
Pelo!works for me > Pelo10:51
cmwebSn9, ok il see what i can do10:51
uyannlet me try tabbing10:51
uyannthank you!!10:52
uyannit worked!10:52
uyann:)10:52
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quicojusethk: trying to compile a program10:52
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quicojusethk: gpc -g world.pas10:52
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ikoniachaps, is there an application in the ubuntu repo's that can rip the sound off a dvd rom into mp3 format ?10:52
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ikoniaI'm not big on multimedia aps10:53
sethkquicoju, quicoju it's normally in one of the gcc-lib directories10:53
sethkquicoju, did you install the build-essential package?10:53
sn9ikonia: try dvdrip10:53
AscIs there any way to back up the file/directory structure of a filesystem (FAT) so that it can be restored in the case of corruption?10:54
RumpanzleQ: I can log into a termina with my name/password containing a german letter (), whereas I can't use that same password for the desktoplogin anymore. that is after reinstalling grub after installing windows...if I press the "" it shows as nothing, remember the terminal let me log in?!10:54
Peloikonia,  maybe sound juicer can do it10:54
ikoniasn9, doesn't that rip the whole movie10:54
bruenig!backup | Asc10:54
ubotuAsc: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning10:54
quicojusethk: i don't what is that package10:54
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ikoniaPelo, thats an interesting thought10:54
sn9ikonia: you can cut it up later10:54
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sethkquicoju, it's a metapackage that installs the stuff typically needed to build software from source10:54
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sethkquicoju, install it.  It should take care of crt1.o.10:54
ikoniasn9 ok10:54
quicojusethk: ok! thanks :)10:55
sethkquicoju, it could be a path issue also, but try build-essential first.10:55
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Legendrehaving some wifi wierdness.. it works fine and all.. but I can only contact machines on the internet.. can't contact any hosts on the LAN10:56
cmwebSN9, is their a configuration for a joystick type thing? i cant find anything that will allow me to configure it10:56
Legendreis this some security setting?10:56
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maghatLegendre: That problem is most likely related to your LAN mask or router setup10:56
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Legendremaghat security settings on the router side?10:57
maghatLegendre: *or* firewall10:57
sn9cmweb: i think there might be a pkg to install for that, but i don't remember what it is10:57
sethkLegendre, you mean you can't connect to other wireless machines?  Or wired machines on the lan which the AP connects to?10:57
Legendremaghat well, this is just a fairly plain Edgy install on a thinkpad10:57
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maghatLegendre: maybe ... can you ping a LAN address from the command line?10:57
Legendresethk - can't connect to other wired machines.10:57
cmwebsn9, i got to wait then im installing another thing10:57
gansinhohello ppl, I would like to know why the new amarok isn't in repos?10:58
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Legendremaghat can only ping the router/gateay10:58
sethkLegendre, the default route has to be correct, or you wouldn't reach the internet either10:58
Pelois these some default /hidden firewall that install with ubu 6.10,  I'm getting a message from frostwire that I am firewalled ?  but not from anything else10:58
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Ascbruenig: Those links all appear to be related to backing up files, correct me if I'm wrong.10:58
brueniggansinho, no one in here controls the repos. What version are you looking for?10:58
sethkLegendre, that actually sounds like the netmask in the AP may be wrong (the netmask of the ap connection to the wired network).  although that's odd, also, since internet traffic also passes through it.10:58
bruenigAsc, if you backup all the files of a disc, would that not be backing up a disc?10:58
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sethkLegendre, try a traceroute to one of the machines you can't reach, see where it dies.10:59
Jowino Pelo there are nothing blocking unless you installed a firewall yourself10:59
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sn9cmweb: btw, anjuta would still need g++ to handle c++ rather than just c10:59
PeloJowi,  thanks10:59
Legendresethk - and also odd, since they are one in the same.. netgear wireless/wired router10:59
sethkAsc, I've never seen a structural dump of FAT10:59
Legendresethk - ok will do. One other piece of info, tho..10:59
sethkAsc, it might be possible.  it's a windows file system, so it's perfectly possible that it's possible to dump it, and I don't know about it.10:59
JowiPelo, if you're using a router try opening/redirecting the correct ports10:59
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gansinhobruenig, 1.4.410:59
whtasethk, could you run that mount command by me one more time? with the uid and gid?10:59
sethkLegendre, oh, that's a bit different11:00
Ascbruenig: The trouble is that the disk I want to back up is 25 times larger than the other disk I have handy, which makes copying the files themselves infeasable.11:00
Legendresethk - ubuntu thinks that this machine is connected with a wire :)11:00
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bruenigAsc, ah, well I just triggered the factoid11:00
sethkwhta, if you are doing, say:   mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/something, you would do:  mount -t ntfs -o 'uid=500,gid=500' /dev/hda1 /mnt/something11:00
PeloJowi,  thanks but no router,  just a plain dsl bridge modem, if there is anything it's software related,  probably a frostwire bug ,  I can still ul/dl  but it's just annoying to see that icon11:00
sethkwhta, of course 500 is an example, you have to use the correct numbers.  :)11:00
maghatLegendre: have you stopped the eth0 device in networking config?11:00
Ascsethk: I'll look into that.11:01
whtaok thanks sethk11:01
sethkLegendre, is the box wired into the ap also?11:01
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JowiPelo, ah, hehe, yeah if you can dl/ul there is nothing blocking the traffic :)11:01
sethkLegendre, I assumed it's a wireless connection to the ap11:01
PeloJowi,  it is very slow ...11:01
Legendrethis is a laptop, just wifi11:01
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Legendrebut the network config shows the wifi to be disabled and not configured11:01
brueniggansinho, http://www.debianadmin.com/install-amarok-144-music-player-in-ubuntu-edgy.html11:01
maghatLegendre: almost every laptop has a LAN port :D11:02
sethkLegendre, almost all laptops also have a wired LAN port11:02
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sethkLegendre, in fact, it's been years since I've seen one that doesn't.11:02
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Legendresethk - it has a wired lan port.. but it's not in use11:02
whtathanks sethk, got it working11:02
Legendreubuntu thinks it is..11:02
josoriohola...11:02
sethkwhta, excellent.11:02
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sethkLegendre, does  ifconfig   show that you have an eth0 configured with your ip?11:02
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sethkLegendre, because if ubuntu thinks it is talking to a wired port, then it is.11:03
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Legendresethk - no, it shows eth1 configured.11:03
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Legendreboth eth0 and eth1 show up in the LAN stuff, nothng in wireless11:03
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JowiLegendre, install network-manager-gnome. logout and login again and see what the network manager say. you will also be able to see the available connections and what you're connected to at the moment.11:03
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Zlaxhi!!!11:04
Zlaxcan someone help me with resolution problems?11:04
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josoriohola...11:04
LegendreJowi - ok, is that the standard wifi network manager tool?11:04
josorioalguien en espaol?11:04
Pelo!es | josorio11:04
ubotujosorio: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.11:04
mmisiek3anyone here can help me with scrolling in Ubuntu??11:04
PeloZlax,  what resolution problem ?11:04
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yalokimmisiek3: trolling ?11:04
sethksounds like there are two wired ports.  perhaps one in the laptop and another in a docking station?11:04
sgbuntuhi11:04
JowiLegendre, no idea. just installed it myself to get my intel mac mini wireless to work. just to see if it works or not. not using it myself :)11:05
yalokiah, "scrolling" ^^11:05
mmisiek3yes11:05
quicojusethk: it worked thanks! :)11:05
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JowiLegendre, i do not think it is installed by default though11:05
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sethkquicoju, excellent.11:05
LegendreJowi - well, my wifi works.. in an odd way.11:05
miraksetserial /dev/ttyUSB011:05
mirakCannot get serial info: Invalid argument11:05
mirakI don't understand why I have this error11:05
sgircMSG NickServ11:05
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redDEADresolveI am having a problem with my internal card reader in my desktop. It's a LINKSKEY LKA-CR15B 19-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader/Writer. In Dapper it worked no problem. When I upgraded to Edgy it doesn't read cards, although the light goes on. I'm confused to whats happened. The USB slot works, it reads and writes data but the card slots don't. I've tried a couple of cards and have no idea what to do.11:06
sn9mirak: what are you trying to do?11:06
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whtaanyone happen to know the exact path to my firefox profile folder?11:06
JowiLegendre, network-manager-gnome will give you a clear view of what is going on11:06
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sethkmirak, that's a dynamic port, it will only exist when whatever device it corresponds to is connected and powered up.11:06
Zlaxcan someone help me in private  about desktop Resolution11:06
anton_nooo! the sound of a thousand voices crying out in terror and suddenly silenced! www.peugeot.fr has just killed my firefox browser! and i was downloading a film from google videos and it was 75% done!11:06
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sethkwhta, it's under $HOME/.mozilla11:07
sethkanton_, it might be able to pick up where it left off.11:07
rogue780!mythtv11:07
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:07
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mydaniHey all. Does everyone else have the problem that installation hangs when choosing manual partitioning?11:07
anton_sethk: unfortunately not :(11:07
Jowianton_, ummmm. peugeot.fr do not have a thousand voices :)11:07
maghatanton_ : too bad, you should be at renault.fr maybe ? ;)11:07
sgircls11:08
anton_maghat: from now on, it's citroen for me :)11:08
sgircsn9: its ok11:08
anton_maghat: they have this clever suspension system :)11:08
maghatanton_ : we are waaaay off-topic ;)11:08
whtasethk: sorry for the noobness, but where do i go to get to whatever $HOME represents? If I try to go directly to it it errors me11:08
anton_whta: just type cd11:09
redDEADresolveI am having a problem with my internal card reader in my desktop. It's a LINKSKEY LKA-CR15B 19-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader/Writer. In Dapper it worked no problem. When I upgraded to Edgy it doesn't read cards, although the light goes on. I'm confused to whats happened. The USB slot works, it reads and writes data but the card slots don't. I've tried a couple of cards and have no idea what to do.11:09
Zlaxany1 who can help me with desktop resolution problem?11:09
maghatbrb11:09
anton_whta: and to find out what $HOME is, type echo $HOME11:09
miraksethk: I don't understand11:09
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miraksn9: I have a serial to usb adapter, it's on /dev/ttyUSB0 . I can't make it work11:09
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sethkmirak, well, in my setup, that port (ttyUSB0) is used by my palm pilot11:10
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miraksethk: what you said11:10
mathieu_any advice on converting a .avi to .dv format ?11:10
sethkmirak, ok, right, my 515 works that way11:10
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rodoxhey, anyone knows how to install TTF fonts in Ubuntu?11:10
miraksethk: what is the module ?11:10
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sethkmirak, did you use sudo on your command, by the way?11:10
sethkmirak, visor11:10
miraksethk: yes11:10
amickeHi, anyone know what the problem could be when you can't open "menu setup" ?11:10
redDEADresolverodox try using easyubuntu or automatrix11:10
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miraksethk: but you have a serial to usb device ?11:10
anton_(i wonder if there's a firefox plug in to grab stuff from google videos? let's see...)11:10
sethkmirak, the module has visor in the same.11:10
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rodoxthere is no way to do it by the hand?11:11
sethkmirak, at work I have one, yes11:11
miraksethk: mine is pl230311:11
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sethkmirak, I didn't bring it home with me.  we have two different ones, I don't remember the models, though.11:11
amickesuddenly my ubuntu started acting weird... i can't open "menu layout" anyone know why?11:11
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mmisiek3i have problem with scrolling in window (opera, mozilla, gnome) it's sharppening all the time. That's very annyoing... I have Ubuntu 6.10 and s3 unichrome, on 6.06 there was no problem11:11
TTownManCan I ask a question re: CUPS config with a NetGear router?11:11
redDEADresolveyes you have to download the fonts and then follow this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241196&highlight=installing+fonts11:11
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Zlaxplease i tried the faq for setting correct resolution but i can't get it to work11:12
barrett9hhow do I setup internet connection sharing with bluetooth?11:12
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redDEADresolvezlax whats wrong11:12
sethkTTownMan, sure, but what does CUPS have to do with routers?11:12
sgirchello11:12
sn9mirak: is the adapter plugged in?11:12
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miraksn9: yes11:12
miraksn9: at least it creates the device11:12
miraksn9: loads the module11:12
voidmageI can't get firefox to use my saved passwords11:12
rodoxredDEADresolve, I have a specific .TTF font here... can automatix or easyubuntu install it?11:13
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sn9mirak: what's not working?11:13
redDEADresolveno use the url i posted11:13
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redDEADresolveits easy11:13
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redDEADresolvehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241196&highlight=installing+fonts11:13
ctkroekerHas anyone had any luck with skype on an ltsp client?11:13
sn9mirak: seems to me you don't have a problem11:13
TTownManNewbie on ubuntu.  CUPS running Ok on box, which is connected to a NetGear router.  I'd like my Windoze machines to be able to print to the printer hooked into the ubuntu linux box.11:13
anton_what download managers do you people use?11:13
miraksn9: ?11:13
miraksetserial /dev/ttyUSB011:13
mirakCannot get serial info: Invalid argument11:13
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ZlaxredDeadresolve can we talk in private its too crowded here?11:13
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redDEADresolvei already am talking to you in private11:14
redDEADresolveyou didnt respond11:14
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miraksn9: setserial /dev/ttyS2  gives /dev/ttyS2, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x9400, IRQ: 21711:14
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mydaniNo one else with hangups when installing ubuntu 32 on an amd64?11:14
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sn9mirak: i'm asking you what's not working to make you want to use setserial in the first place11:14
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HolyManOfGodhmm11:15
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rainbowhi11:15
miraksn9: setserial error is a proof it's not working.11:15
HolyManOfGodjmm11:15
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ctkroekerHas anyone had any luck with skype on an ltsp client? referring to sound...11:15
sn9mirak: on what planet?11:15
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rainbowis there a download manager for Firefox that actually supports Resume?11:15
HolyManOfGodwho here wants to be saved by God11:15
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miraksn9: it works my other serial ports11:15
redDEADresolveI am having a problem with my internal card reader in my desktop. It's a LINKSKEY LKA-CR15B 19-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader/Writer. In Dapper it worked no problem. When I upgraded to Edgy it doesn't read cards, although the light goes on. I'm confused to whats happened. The USB slot works, it reads and writes data but the card slots don't. I've tried a couple of cards and have no idea what to do.11:15
hikenboothello all--question anyone know wherer dhcpd and bind log their errors to?11:16
miraksn9: setserial gives you at least information about the port11:16
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sn9mirak: but they're not usb11:16
miraksn9: I need them anyway11:16
sethkmirak, it may not use the same UART chip, so the fact that it responds differently is not definitive11:16
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sethkmirak, I wish I had it here so I could try it for you, but I don't11:17
sc0ttyhello11:17
sn9there is no uart in a PL230311:17
anton_mm, wget doesn't like google videos. can't say i blame it11:17
sc0ttyI installed ubuntu 6.1011:17
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sethkredDEADresolve, I would boot dapper, do:   lsmod > outputfile       then boot edgy, do the same thing, e.g., lsmod > outputfile211:17
sc0ttyI'm looking at the /etc/fstab file, to add a new HD, but it seemd ubuntu now uses some kind of UUID instead of the classic stuff it used to use in 6.0611:17
sethkredDEADresolve, then do:   diff outputfile outputfile211:18
sc0ttyhow can I add a new HD ?11:18
miraksn9: so how do i use it ?11:18
miraksn9: for exemple with lirc11:18
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miraksn9: I also want to plug a infinty usb phoenix on it11:18
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sethkthat may show you a module that needs to be inserted.  it might show you a bunch, and it may not help, but it may help.11:18
sethkredDEADresolve, it almost surely is a kernel module that needs to be loaded, or possibly needs to be built and then loaded.11:18
redDEADresolvesethk how would i boot into dapper use a live CD?11:18
noomzExcuse me, Why I can start Xgl from gdm but not from gdm.conf-custom?11:19
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sethkredDEADresolve, that's one way.  I was assuming you still have your dapper installation available11:19
sn9mirak: you have an IR dongle attached to a usb serial adapter? i'm not sure it's even possible for that to work on any OS11:19
redDEADresolveno clean 6.10 install11:19
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sethksc0tty, the way it works in earlier versions still works, even if there are additional configuration methods.11:20
sethkredDEADresolve, too bad.11:20
sc0ttyok thanks :)11:20
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sgircsn9: now that I know how to unplug my usb modem I can switch between my native windows connection and try to make it run from my vmware loaded ubuntu11:20
cmwebCan some one help me with anjuta?11:20
sethkredDEADresolve, booting the live cd is a reasonable thing to do, if the thing is accessible that way.11:20
sethkcmweb, possibly, depends on what problem you are having.11:20
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sgircsn9:could you be kind enough to help me to set my connection ?11:21
cmwebyeah i guess. How do i set the executable file for my progect11:21
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Zlax:(11:21
rodoxcan anyone help me to install a TTF font in ubuntu?11:21
Zlax;(11:21
redDEADresolvesethk it is i have it right next to me, but when i run lsmod > outputfile2 i get nothin in edgy11:21
sgircsn9: logs are here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33749/11:21
Zlax:'(11:21
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miraksn9: well I would like to do that, but if it's not possible I can plug my other device on it11:22
jared_how can i get the bookmarks imported from a bookmark.html   into mozilla11:22
sethkmight need sudo11:22
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sethkredDEADresolve, leave off the > outputfile2 part, then you'll see what the output of lsmod is.  see if it's an error message.11:22
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MarlunWhen I try to install Ubuntu 6.10 on my laptop I get "* Checking file systems..." and then "fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)" and then nothing happends.11:23
sethkredDEADresolve, try sudo lsmod      I don't have an edgy machine at my fingertips here.  you don't need sudo for lsmod on any other linux variant I've tried, but ...11:23
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sn9mirak: most devices, unless they're really high-speed, should just work by being plugged in; no setserial involved. the command that sets the port settings is stty11:23
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redDEADresolvesethk it worked11:23
sethkMarlun, are you sure?  is the disk activity light on?11:23
sgircdoes somebody know how to restore the default file /etc/ppp/options ?11:23
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Marlunsethk: nope.11:24
sethkMarlun, is the system dead?  does the caps lock light work?11:24
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fabienjoin #ubuntu-fr11:24
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sethkcmweb, sorry, did you get an answer to your anjunta question11:25
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sethfelderhello peoples!11:25
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cmwebsethk, no11:25
sethkMarlun, that's nasty.  is this a system that used to work?11:25
sgircrseth: hello11:25
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sethfeldereek, i cant believe i said that11:25
sethkcmweb, what was the question?  I was away for a few minutes.11:25
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Marlunsethk: when I hit caps-lock theres no light coming on.11:25
miraksn9: so what I must do is plug the device to the cable, and then  plug the cable ?11:26
sn9sgirc: it looks like you're trying to use br2684 and pppoa at the same time. i could be wrong, but i don't think that would work11:26
Marlunsethk: only with Windows, first time I've tried to install linux.11:26
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cmwebsethk, I keep getting an error saying that the progrect has no executable output how do i fix this11:26
sethfeldercan someone please go through step-by-step on how to mount a drive in ubuntu  live CD?11:26
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sethfelderPLEASE!?!?!?11:26
sethkMarlun, try adding   ide=nodma to the kernel command line11:26
sn9mirak: just run whatever software communicates with the serial device11:26
Marlunsethk: I also get "mount: Function not implemented" before the "checking file systems..."11:26
Ickhow do i get libdvdcss to work?11:26
sn9!dvd | Ick11:27
ubotuIck: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:27
sethkMarlun, what file system type did you use for the root file system?11:27
sethksethfelder, an IDE drive?11:27
mirakstty --file /dev/ttyUSB0               speed 9600 baud; line = 0;  -brkint -imaxbel11:27
sethfelderyeah11:27
miraksn9:11:27
Marlunsethk: and before the "mount: ..." there are a "* Activating swap...".11:27
sethkcmweb, have you created a project?11:27
sethfelderim pretty sure it is11:27
sethfelderim doing it in vmware...........11:27
sethksethfelder, I'll give you an example; you can adjust the numbers.   mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/something11:28
sethfelderok, thanx11:28
sethksethfelder, /mnt/something is any directory, -t ext3 is just a guess at the file system type11:28
Marlunsethk: Right now I've got Windows installed on a NTFS partition, and I've got another NTFS partition which I was going to install linux on but I never get that far.11:28
miraksn9: at least when I used plugued the phoneix card reader the connection was happening11:28
sethksethfelder, and /dev/hda1 assumes first partition on first ide drive.11:28
sn9mirak: i forget the exact syntax, but that doesn't look familiar11:28
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sethfelderk11:28
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sethkMarlun, so you are running the installer?  You've lost me, I thought it died on an fsck.  am I confusing two people?11:28
sethfelderill give it a try.....11:28
sethkmirak, you probably need sudo to change the port configuration11:29
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ZlaxI got problem with desktop resolution.11:29
ZlaxI installed nvidia drivers and they are working correctly ( tested in cedega, played Warcraft III :) )11:29
Zlaxbut for desktop resolutions i was offered only 3 resolutions with 60Hz refresh11:29
Zlaxi have 21 inch monitor capable of displaying 1600x1024 at 100Hz (in windows)11:29
Zlaxi edited xorg.conf to add Modelline generated online and added that resolution11:29
Zlaxto Screens section for 24 bit color depth.11:29
ZlaxProblem is that i can select 1600x1024 but at 50Hz which displays incorrect ( much darker image )11:29
sgircsn9: before I change config files /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/peers/peers-pppoa the log was different. there a little more line saying that a conextion is being initiated. Do u know how I can restore these files so that I can try again. Idont emember exactly which paameters I modified11:29
cmwebsethk, sorry yes i have11:29
Moosejawdo i have to install ndiswrapper from a specific place for it to install correctly?  Currently I am compiling the source and installing from Desktop but it doesnt seem to be working11:29
gnomefreakZlax: please use pastebin11:29
Moosejawi have also tried to do sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper but i get a cannot locate E: error11:29
Zlaxcan someone help? (sorry for spam)11:30
gnomefreak!pastebin | Zlax11:30
ubotuZlax: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:30
anto9us*ding dong* This is a public announcement. The Ubuntuest and geekiest of quizziest quizzes is about to start in #ubuntu-tivia. Commences in approximately 2 minutes time. Be there or be square! *dong ding*11:30
sn9sgirc: did you make a backup?11:30
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TokenBadwhats best way to install nvidia drivers for dapper?11:30
sgircsn9: unfortunately no :(11:30
sethkMarlun, now I'm completely confused, because you wouldn't be doing a mount unless the install was completed and you were trying to boot the o/s.11:30
gnomefreakTokenBad: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx11:30
Zlaxtokenbad: via envy for 6.1011:30
sethkcmweb, try bringing up the project settings, and look for a place to set the output exe name.11:30
sethfeldersethk: when doing to above, i get this "mount: mount point /mnt/somthing does not exist"11:30
sethfelderi probably did somthing really stupid11:30
sethfelderand obvidous11:31
sethksethfelder, that's why I said "/mnt/something is any directory"11:31
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sn9sgirc: well, at least you saw what was there -- i didn't. so you're in a better position to know how to fix it than i am11:31
sethfelderohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh11:31
sethksethfelder, just create a directory to mount it on11:31
sethfelderso i need to make it first?11:31
jared_hey i have a buddy that wants to make a car stereo linux mp3 video player and possibly do a gps    i was thinking to load up server eddition and then get a program or two to run this...   any sugestions?11:31
anton_sethfelder: you have to create it11:31
sethfelderk11:31
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sethksethfelder, right11:31
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Moosejawafter doing a make install of the ndiswrapper source i still get an error that ndiswrapper not found...can someone please help me?11:31
sethksethfelder, doesn't have to be in /mnt, although that's typically where one puts it.11:31
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cmwebsethk, this is what i get The target executable does not exist for this Project11:31
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anton_sethfelder: you can, of course, mount it anywhere you like. i wouldn't advise you try /bin, however11:31
Marlunsethk: no, I put in the CD and when the menu comes I choos "Run or install Ubuntu" (or something like that) the progress bar apears, after a while I get these messages: "* Activating swap..." "mount: Function not implemented" "* Checking file system..." "fsck 1.39 (29-May-2006)".11:31
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sethkcmweb, well, it wouldn't, until you build it.  let me see if I have anjuta on this box.11:32
anto9usmake that #ubuntu-trivia folks, sorry for any inconvenience this error may have caused :P11:32
sethkMarlun, oh, ok.11:32
Nlytn_hi - my system is having serious conflicts with the edgy 2.6.17 kernel - is there someway i can downgrade using a repositary, say to 2.6.10 or so?11:32
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sethkMarlun, sounds like either (1) a bad download, check the md5sum of the downloaded file, (2) a bad burn, or (3) try the text mode install if neither 1 or 2 is true11:32
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miraksethk: I am always in root11:32
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miraksethk: in fact I log on gnome with root11:32
miraksethk: I am kidding11:33
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sethkmirak, good.11:33
sethkmirak, I think not setting the root password is dumb, but logging in as root is even dumber  :)11:33
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sethkmirak, I'll install anjuta here, hold on.11:33
anton_question for the people using edgy: how many updates do you tend to get each week?11:33
timo90not many11:34
timo90about 211:34
lufisHow do I check an ext3 filesystem for corruption?11:34
sethfeldergrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr11:34
anton_me neither. when i was using drake, i got about 10 updates a day (well, it felt like it)11:34
sethfelderit keeps comming up with tthe usage11:34
timo90i KNOW11:34
Marlunsethk: I ran the "Check CD for defects" and it found no checksum errors.11:34
timo90its stable thou rifght11:34
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sethkMarlun, check cd doesn't do checksums11:34
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sethkMarlun, check cd only makes sure that every sector is readable without an error11:35
Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/11:35
sethkMarlun, but it does eliminate #2 (bad burn), almost certainly.11:35
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anton_sethk: i thought it calculated an md5sum of all packages and compared them to the list11:35
TokenBadgnomefreak, but what about making sure its activated11:35
sethkanton_, I don't think so, because you can change the cd and it doesn't complain11:35
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timo90anton:it does11:35
sethfelder!mount11:35
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks11:35
sethkanton_, unless it's been changed recently.11:35
gnomefreakTokenBad: change the driver to nvidia and restart X11:35
sethfelder!about11:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:35
sethfelder!ubotu11:36
lufisI think my filesystem might have been corrupted. Is there a way to check for errors? do I need to do it from a livecd?11:36
Marlunsethk: ok, where on the ubuntu site can I see what the checksum md5sum should be?11:36
sethfelder!ubotu11:36
anton_sethk: you seem to have spent more time with it than i have :)11:36
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sethkMarlun, usually there is a file in the same directory, either one for each download file, or one for the entire directory, with the md5 sums.11:36
sethkanton_, I could be wrong.11:36
Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/11:36
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anton_sethk: i doubt it :)11:37
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Hexidigitalhow can i create a script at boot that needs to be run by root?11:37
sethkMarlun, hopefully it is fairly evident.  if you can't find it, tell us the url and we'll look.11:37
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sethkHexidigital, do you really mean create the script at boot?  or do you mean create a script that will run at boot?11:38
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Hexidigitalsethk: yes, the latter :)11:38
Marlunsethk: found it :)11:38
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Hexidigitalsethk: i can easily create a script when i boot11:38
sethkMarlun, good.  probably will match, but it's easy to check, so check it.11:38
soloim sorry but, originall from gentoo here...       trying to install ndiswrapper for my WLAN card   BCM4318 ( a pain) and when making ndiswrapper   i get a stdlib.h no file or dir found,    well obiously im missing somthing   but what,  ??  and remember no net on that machine, (got to boot to xp partition to download and xfer files)11:38
sethkHexidigital, just chown root:root scriptname11:38
anton_Hexidigital: if i remember correctly, any script you put in one of the /etc/rcx.d directories will be run at boot with root rights11:38
sethkHexidigital, with sudo, if you aren't root when you run the chown11:38
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Nlytn_my system if having serious conflicts with the 2.6.17 edgy kernel, is there a way to downgrade without recompiling a new kernel (crash before it completes), ie an older kernel in a repository?11:39
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sn9solo: you don't need ndsiwrapper for that11:39
Hexidigitalsethk, anton_ :: thanks11:39
sethkanton_, that's true, providing root has x privilege for the file.  doing a chown ensures that it does.11:39
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Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/ please take a look :'(11:39
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sn9solo: use the bcm43xx-fwcutter, and the rest will work automagically11:40
solook11:40
solothank you :)11:40
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soloa yr ago BCM drivers on linux was a ******$%@%!@%!$#! of a time11:40
sololol\11:40
anton_mon dieu. my firefox has just crashed again. this is getting annoying.11:40
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sethkanton_, is the crash related to any particular plug in?11:41
sgircsn9: I found the error message I had in my browser history. "LCP: Timeout Sending Config-Request". Does this make sense for you ?11:41
Hexidigitalubotu: paste11:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)11:41
sn9solo: you haven't tried in a whole year???11:41
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Hexidigitalsorry, that was meant for me... i forgot /msg11:41
sethkanton_, i've heard some talk about one of the plugins (not flash, but something of that sort) causing frequent crashes.11:41
solosn9 how do i start the bcm cutter ,   site says its included in my kernel11:41
anton_sethk: difficult to say. i think it's because i haven't got a clue what i'm doing with firefox :)11:41
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sn9sgirc: that's part of the ppp handshaking11:42
sethkanton_, I get crashes with ff 2, but not all that frequently.11:42
Nlytn_my system if having serious conflicts with the 2.6.17 edgy kernel, is there a way to downgrade without recompiling a new kernel (crash before it completes), ie an older kernel in a repository? anyone please? :(11:42
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Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/11:42
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micktmhi!!11:42
Marlunsethk: yes it did match.11:42
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Zlaxhi11:42
brueniganton_, try moving the plugins, then running firefox. If it doesn't crash, you can conclude it is one of the plugins.11:42
micktmIn filenames I can't use chars such as ...11:42
Marlunsethk: how do I test the text mode install?11:42
sethkMarlun, ok.  I would try the text mode install next.  unfortunately, it's on the alternate cd.11:42
sn9solo: no, the driver is included in the kernel. the fwcutter is a separate pkg11:42
micktmhow can i solve this problem?11:42
anton_sethk: bruenig: it doesn't really bother me atm. and these are the first plugins i've ever installed :)11:42
solook so just install fwcutter and i should b ok?11:42
brueniganton_, or you can do the same for extensions. I had a bad cocktail of extensions cause firefox to crash everytime I opened11:42
sn9solo: yup11:42
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Dex-Freudiihow is "ubuntu" pronunced?11:43
bruenigoooooo - bunt - oooooo11:43
sn9solo: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter11:43
sethkmicktm, what's your LOCALE?  (your language settings?)11:43
TokenBadgnomefreak,  last time I did that it would crash....11:43
Marlunsethk: oh, ok, I'll get that then.11:43
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micktmitalian11:43
sgircsn9: Do you think it is a better posture than the current one ?11:43
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gnomefreakTokenBad: do you have the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel installed?11:44
Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/ please tell me if you dont know how ?11:44
anton_bruenig: that sounds bad :( if firefox ever gets that bad on me, i'll go back to lynx :)11:44
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heanolanyone know if it's possible to use fglrx in xen?11:44
TokenBadnot right now...just reinstalled....but last time I did11:44
sn9sgirc: ppp problems, whether dial-up or dsl, are not at all easy to track down11:44
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Hexidigitalcan someone help me make a script out of this for NAT to start at boot? here is what i need to run http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33753/11:44
brueniganton_, all I had to do was delete the .mozilla directory and then it was fine11:44
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anton_bruenig: all i'm trying to do is find a torrent for gentoo... www.gentoo.org is being really slow.11:45
micktmsethk: italian11:45
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Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/11:45
sethkHexidigital, all you need to do is create the file (which you already did, it appears), copy it to /etc/init.d, then put links to it at the run levels you want it to run  (as in /etc/rc1.d, )11:45
sethkmicktm, you see all the prompts and messages and such in Italian?11:46
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Hexidigitalsethk: do i have to add any #!/bin/bash stuff to it? or leave it as is11:46
Hexidigital?11:46
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micktmsethk: yes11:46
wilee85rogue780, sdumfwgu11:46
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rogue780wilee85, thanks11:46
anton_bruenig: the .mozilla directory is really useful :) question: i often spend time on lots of different computers and want to keep my internet preferences with me. (passwords, favourite pages etc). does anybody know of an internet service which offers this, or is that a little javascript project for me at some stage?11:46
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brueniganton_, http://btjunkie.org/torrent?do=download&id=464068ae998b2616f94139345c9d87b5c222bf69bb00.torrent11:46
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micktmsethk: only in filenames I see a question mark instead of 11:46
sethkHexidigital, the default is #!/bin/sh, so you can leave that line out for shell scripts11:46
TokenBadhope to brb11:46
brueniganton_, that is for dvd though11:46
Hexidigitalsethk: thanks much11:46
sgircsn9: ok. I think the best strategy to solve this is to try to get back to the original situation where my system is waiting with the other peer LCP response, and then I will see with my ISP.11:46
sethkmicktm, but in text with accents, you see the correct thing, the letter with the accent?11:47
Hexidigitalbe back11:47
anton_sounds good, bruenig :)11:47
sn9sgirc: sounds good11:47
micktmsethk: wait... I never noticed this...11:47
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AstuteCati'm having trouble starting ubuntu (6.06) on the livecd on my alienware aurora m9700 -- it hangs at startup on 'Starting kernel log' - it does, however, respond to ctrl-alt-delete and reboots, but it never gets to starting X.11:47
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Zlaxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33752/11:48
AstuteCatanyone got any ideas? i'm stumped.11:48
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tengocan someone help me11:48
tengoemergency11:48
tengoi just changed the screen resolution11:48
tengoand now i can't log onto gnome11:48
micktmsethk: yes, I can see them...11:48
sn9tengo: does the login screen still come up?11:48
micktmsethk: but not in latex documents11:48
tengosn9 yes11:48
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anton_oh baby, that torrent's flying :)11:49
sethkmicktm, ok.  do this in a directory that has the bad file names:     ls | hexdump -C > outfile11:49
tengosn9 but if i put in my usr name and password, after, it just goes back to the logon screen like a loop11:49
sn9tengo: what error does it give when you try to log in?11:49
sethkmicktm, that creates a file named "outfile" with a dump of the text from ls11:49
Zlaxcan someone read what i type??????????11:49
anton_bruenig: i hope it isn't a link to your /dev/random, the torrent :)11:49
tengosn9 after you log in, it just goes back to log on11:49
sethkmicktm, edit that file, and see if the letters displaying as ? are in fact correct.11:49
sethkZlax, I can't.11:49
sn9tengo: if you have a file ~/.ICEautority, delete it11:49
sethkmicktm, I'm not sure how latex handles accents, so that doesn't tell me anything11:50
tengoi can't even log on sn911:50
sethkmicktm, but a dump of the ls output will.11:50
sn9tengo: login in text mode11:50
sethktengo, did you try a console login?11:50
gyaresusn9: tengo make sure your /home directory isn't full. CTRL+ALT+F2 then run 'df -h' to check. (this happens to me sometimes.)11:50
tengohow do i do that sethk11:50
micktmsethk: ok, done, and now what I have to do?11:50
Zlax:)11:50
solois their like a fwcutter deb file??11:51
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sn9solo: yes11:51
mat1tengo: crtl +alt F111:51
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tengogyaresu its not full11:51
sn9solo: sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter11:51
gyaresutengo: cool.11:51
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sn9tengo: ctrl-alt-F211:51
tengoi changed my rez to 1280x1024 and now its not working11:51
tengoi'm there sn911:51
sethkmicktm, can you post it on the paste web site?11:52
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ctkroekerHas anyone had any luck with skype on an ltsp client? referring to sound11:52
sethktengo, if you have multiple resolutions defined, try cycling through them with control-alt-+  (that's control alt plus)11:52
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solosn9 : couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter   :P11:52
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sn9tengo: you logged in?11:53
micktmok11:53
tengosn9 yes11:53
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tengosethk, how do you get out of the console mode11:53
sethktengo, control-alt-f711:53
sn9solo: oh, that's right, it's in a non-default repository11:53
bruenigctrl + alt + f711:53
mat1alt f711:53
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micktmhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33754/11:53
tengohow do you get out of safeterminal11:53
solosn9: and that means....???11:54
sn9solo: do you have 6.06 or 6.10?11:54
solo6.1011:54
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sn9!repos11:54
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource11:54
tengobuenig how do you get out of failsafe terminal11:54
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bruenigtengo, startx11:54
micktmsethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33754/11:54
sn9!easysource | solo11:54
ubotusolo: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:54
navyseal_yo all11:54
navyseal_i wanted to install my printer11:55
soloso download the sep rep, and install fwcutter from their?11:55
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navyseal_i already went to the printer menu but can't install it11:55
sethkmicktm, give me the name of one of the files that shows the question marks.11:55
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ortega10i need a good bittorrent client other than azureus (that lately refuses to work properly), any suggestions?11:56
narrchyCan anyone link me to a guide for burning Ubunto to CD-R?11:56
narrchyfor Windows XP11:56
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micktmsethk: L?EME.TXT11:56
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navyseal_how can i watch tv in here with ubuntu? -> www.channelchooser.com11:56
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tengosn9 what do i do in ctrl alt f2 after i logged in?11:56
narrchyAnyone have any idea?11:56
sn9tengo: delete the file ~/.ICEauthority11:57
tengohow11:57
tengosn9 how11:57
sn9tengo: rm ~/.ICEauthority11:57
sethkmicktm, and give me another11:57
micktmsethk: there's only that one!11:57
sethkmicktm, ok.  let me check one thing here quickly...11:58
bruenignavyseal_, mplayer plugins, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer. You may also need some codecs. I am not positive11:58
ortega10narrchy: i can't give you a guide, but you can just download the iso image, and burn it with a program like infra burner11:58
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navyseal_bruenig nop11:58
sybaritenfastest FTP server to set up on a headless ubuntu box ?11:58
navyseal_it doesn't work at all11:58
navyseal_mplayer loads the video content11:58
navyseal_but don't plays it11:58
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tengosn9, i deleted it, but it still goes in a loop11:58
sn9tengo: hmm11:58
ortega10i need a good bittorrent client other than azureus (that lately refuses to work properly), any suggestions ?11:59
kevintry rebooting11:59
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narrchywell11:59
narrchyortega11:59
bruenignavyseal_, it played here. Are you sure you have all the codecs and stuff installed. w32codecs etc.11:59
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navyseal_i think so11:59
navyseal_:S11:59
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sesamebikehi! I don't understand dd. I'm doing a backup of a harddrive "Disk /dev/hda: 20.4 GB, 20490559488 bytes" using the live CD and the command "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda1/backup". Problem is that it just keeps going. the backup file is now 3709825024 bytes and increasing (command still running). What am I missing here?11:59
sn9tengo: that happened to me before, but i don't remember how i fixed it -- but deleting that file was involved11:59
narrchymy friend and i are trying to burn it and he burned it with Isorecorder as a .iso onto the CD-R and the ysstem is not recognizing it11:59
sethkmicktm, it looks like the filename is correct, and the problem is that it is showing you the ? in the terminal window11:59
solook sn911:59
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sethkmicktm, because the character at that position is hex 2e, and question mark is hex 3f12:00
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sybaritenhow do i find out if my machine already has an ftp server ?12:00
micktmit's...12:00
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soloi understand the rep page,    but how am i to download them in a console without a working internet on the machine im workin on, is their a direct download for a massive pkg or what12:00
tengosn9, i reverted back to 800x600 and it works12:00
sethkmicktm, you'll notice (if you look) in the hexdump output that it's displayed as "." which means hexdump doesn't know how to display it.12:00
brainsforsalehey12:00
anton_sybariten: try it out :)12:00
brainsforsalei need some help12:00
narrchyOrtega, you see what I said?12:00
tengosn9 any reason why?12:00
brainsforsalei am completely new to linux12:00
brainsforsalei have an old custom machine12:01

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