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| Jucato | moin Hobbsee! | 02:13 |
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| Hobbsee | hey Jucato! | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | what broke on feisty? | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | repair_feisty_due_to_non_boot++ | 02:15 |
| crimsun | udev. | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | fun | 02:15 |
| === Hobbsee thought she got the latest | ||
| crimsun | 103-0ubuntu4 works fine. | 02:15 |
| crimsun | I had to boot off a Kubuntu 6.06 desktop cd to chroot in to update && upgrade | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | what's the syntax of chrooting? | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | i'm about to do that, i' mon edgy now | 02:16 |
| nixternal | ya, tell me as well | 02:16 |
| nixternal | i have a broke box too ;) | 02:16 |
| crimsun | mount the partition, sudo chroot /thatpartition su | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | chroot's manual is hopeless | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | hi Hobbsee | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | hey ajmitch | 02:16 |
| Hobbsee | thanks | 02:17 |
| crimsun | yw | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | the su is to chroot as root, presumably | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | yay, updating :) | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | at least it's fairly painless when you have another machine | 02:17 |
| === nixternal wants to try | ||
| crimsun | well, you could use /bin/bash, too, if you wish; I use that syntax because infinity said so | 02:17 |
| === Jucato runs vmware | ||
| Hobbsee | ah right | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: try it, it's a chroot like any other | 02:18 |
| nixternal | lol | 02:18 |
| === nixternal boots off of livecd | ||
| === Hobbsee needs no live cd. | ||
| nixternal | how come? | 02:19 |
| nixternal | dual boot? | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | tripple boot | 02:19 |
| nixternal | hehe | 02:19 |
| ajmitch | because she is wise in the ways of initramfs | 02:19 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:19 |
| nixternal | i have a seperate test machine | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | bah. i could....but i dont | 02:19 |
| nixternal | hahaha..i forgot i booted off of livecd..im like wtf it works now | 02:19 |
| === ajmitch only has feisty, no dual-booting here | ||
| === Jucato wishes he had a separate machine... will have to *-boot in the future... | ||
| Hobbsee | way cool! it's further broken! | 02:20 |
| nixternal | lol | 02:20 |
| crimsun | impressive | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | very | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | it's broken in such a way that i cant immediately see how to fix it, either | 02:20 |
| ajmitch | nice | 02:21 |
| ajmitch | what sort of breakage do you see? | 02:21 |
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| Jucato | hi Hobbsee_ | 02:22 |
| Jucato | :P | 02:22 |
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| Hobbsee_ | urgh | 02:23 |
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| Hobbsee | crimsun: what do you make of http://pastebin.ca/257188 ? | 02:24 |
| Jucato | ryanakca is dancing... | 02:24 |
| nixternal | what is the chroot command to do this Hobbsee ? | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | dpkg: error processing cupsys (--configure): | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | reinstall it before attempting configuration. | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | hah | 02:24 |
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| Hobbsee | nixternal: whatever crimsun said above | 02:24 |
| nixternal | man chroot is about as good as searching for chroot help in my carpet | 02:24 |
| Hobbsee | so's info chroot | 02:24 |
| nixternal | ahh | 02:24 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: dunno offhand, I purged cupsys a while ago (dapper?) | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | right | 02:25 |
| Hobbsee | *tries purging it, fails* | 02:25 |
| nixternal | i guess im stupid | 02:26 |
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| Hobbsee | nah, you arent | 02:26 |
| nixternal | heh | 02:26 |
| nixternal | ya i am...i was trying to chroot the wrong damn dir | 02:26 |
| nixternal | chroot was sittin' there telling me im a moron, but i refused to listen ;) | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | lol | 02:26 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: what does dpkg -D3773 -i [..] give you? | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: what's the -D3773 for? | 02:27 |
| crimsun | lots o' debug spew for maintainer scripts | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | i take it you want the output? | 02:28 |
| ajmitch | sounds like Hobbsee broke it good | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/257196 | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: indeed | 02:30 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: did you get a hal error on that update? | 02:31 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: no, update again. i did yesterday | 02:31 |
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| Hobbsee | well, it does actually boot nwo | 02:36 |
| nixternal | im getting hal, volumeid depends..all kinds of goofy stuff in chroot | 02:36 |
| crimsun | that's interesting. Is cupsys even running? | 02:36 |
| crimsun | (or whatever binar{y,ies} cupsys's initscript invokes) | 02:37 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: i doubt it | 02:38 |
| Hobbsee | oh there we go, it's wokring when booted to it | 02:38 |
| crimsun | cupsys works now? | 02:39 |
| crimsun | that's plain strange. cupsys.prerm has nothing of that sort. | 02:40 |
| Hobbsee | yep, appears to | 02:40 |
| crimsun | ok, chalk it up to wackiness | 02:40 |
| nixternal | ya, hal will not install for me | 02:42 |
| nixternal | dpkg error with it | 02:43 |
| nixternal | (--unpack) | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: useless, pastebin it, along with apt-cache policy hal | 02:45 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: need more info | 02:45 |
| nixternal | rebootin' the bugger..my knee/foot hit the power chord | 02:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: you broke it! | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | sarah@sarah:~$ Traceback (most recent call last): | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py", line 39, in ? | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | from qt import QLabel | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt) | 02:47 |
| nixternal | ahh that bugger is back | 02:47 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 02:48 |
| crimsun | man, cvsweb makes me weep | 02:49 |
| nixternal | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33793 | 02:50 |
| crimsun | as does nixternal :-) | 02:50 |
| nixternal | heh | 02:50 |
| nixternal | can't help that im a no0b | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: yay. still close to nothing :P | 02:55 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if that's a problem from upgrading 4-5 | ||
| === nixternal rm -rfs &$#&($&&&&#($&$&#@ | ||
| nixternal | that will fix it | 02:56 |
| nixternal | im sick of pressing alt+f7 to start kdm as well on my edgy box | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:59 |
| crimsun | nixternal: uploaded to feisty. | 03:01 |
| nixternal | roger dodger | 03:02 |
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| nixternal | thank you sir | 03:02 |
| nixternal | who's buying dinner? | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | you are | 03:32 |
| nixternal | heh | 03:33 |
| nixternal | im waiting for my dinner to arrive | 03:33 |
| nixternal | while i wipe out my test machine | 03:33 |
| nixternal | at least /dev/hda4 | 03:33 |
| nixternal | can't wipe it all out..i would loose slackware and gnewsense | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee starts reading the mailing lists | ||
| === nixternal starts removing the mailing lists ;) | ||
| Hobbsee | kubuntu-devel actually has something on it | 03:37 |
| nixternal | i see sabdfl upset the opensuse guys a little bit | 03:37 |
| nixternal | ya, Riddell saying he is going on vacation ;) | 03:37 |
| nixternal | or holiday as he put it | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | yeah.... | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | seems so | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | subscription to tuxmagazine as well, which is interesting - just why do they want my postal address? what's wrong with pdf's? | 03:39 |
| nixternal | heh..is it free pdf way or no? | 03:40 |
| Hobbsee | dunno | 03:41 |
| Hobbsee | Kubuntu fanboys, Tux magazine, have kindly offered a free subscription | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | to their monthly PDF magazine for anyone working on Kubuntu. If you | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | want to sign up, send your name, postal address and e-mail along with | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | confirmation that you're in launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-members to | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | tuxmagazine@gmail .com | 03:42 |
| nixternal | hmmm | 03:42 |
| nixternal | i didn't notice that | 03:42 |
| nixternal | i will check again | 03:42 |
| Hobbsee | i think even their pdf version was going subscription only - dont they only do a pdf one? | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | i mean, if they'll insist, i'd just give them a bogus address, because they really dont need to know, and i dont want some random person turning up on my doorstep after finding the address | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | is anyone working on basket? | 03:55 |
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| Hobbsee | seaLne: ping? | 05:02 |
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| imbrandon | nixternal: real mature email to the ML, this week was planned well before and of Marks posts etc, Mark used the opertunity to offer a place for them to come if they _were already leaving anyway_ , anyhow I dont particulary care for the fact that you mentioned you will come to interupt me in the talks ( or _anyone_ ) you are as welcome as the next person but I ask you dont come with malitious intent or against the CoC or I wi | 08:16 |
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| Jucato | O.o | 08:23 |
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| freeflying_ | Riddell: after rebuilding qt without gcc patch, input method still can not work | 10:44 |
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| pip | Hello,where is the C headers file match the running kernel ? | 11:48 |
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| imbrandon | pip, sudo apt-get install libc6-dev | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | err | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | wait | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | linux-libc-dev | 11:50 |
| imbrandon | sorry | 11:50 |
| pip | installed already : ) | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | brandon@horatio:~$ apt-cache search linux-libc-dev | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | linux-libc-dev - Linux Kernel Headers for development | 11:51 |
| crimsun | if he wants to compile external kernel modules, he needs linux-headers-$(uname -r) | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | yea | 11:51 |
| imbrandon | heya crimsun | 11:52 |
| fdoving | and those are the one matching the running kernel.. the linux-libc-dev ones does not. | 11:52 |
| crimsun | 'lo imbrandon | 11:52 |
| crimsun | actually linux-libc-dev is generated from linux-source-foo, so they _should_ match the running kernel (just as l-h should) | 11:53 |
| fdoving | imbrandon: kdepim for feisty patched to fix bug 66313 available at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/feisty/kdepim/ | 11:53 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66313 in kdepim "Calendar does not synch with palm device" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66313 | 11:53 |
| imbrandon | fdoving: okies, give me a few to finish this dsl pendrive install ( almost done ) then i'll grab it and check it / upload etc etc etc | 11:54 |
| imbrandon | fdoving: hehe wasent real motivated today so i decided to play with a usb stick :) | 11:54 |
| pip | I did not see the linux-libc-dev | 11:55 |
| imbrandon | depends on the OS too, i'm assuming your on edgy or later | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | i dont /think/ dapper had that package | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | i could be wrong though | 11:56 |
| pip | Dapper | 11:56 |
| pip | then where is it ? | 11:56 |
| fdoving | that package is not in dapper. | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | then you need linux-headers-* | 11:56 |
| imbrandon | for dapper | 11:57 |
| pip | * = all of the versions ? | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | no no | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | uname -r | 11:57 |
| pip | OK | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | e.g. what crimsun said or "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` | 11:57 |
| imbrandon | iirc thats the only package with them on dapper ( there might be a meta package "linux-headers" but i'm not 100% ) | 11:58 |
| fdoving | there are meta packages named linux-headers-386, linux-headers-server etc. | 11:59 |
| imbrandon | ahh right | 11:59 |
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| kwwii | moin imbrandon | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | heya kwwii | 12:00 |
| imbrandon | hows it going > | 12:01 |
| kwwii | good, the branding meeting is well underway | 12:01 |
| kwwii | you? | 12:01 |
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| fdoving | imbrandon: when you've done the feisty check&upload, you can check the packages i've planed for edgy-sru, don't upload yet, just check: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/edgy/updates/kdepim-proposed/ | 12:01 |
| imbrandon | fdoving: sure | 12:01 |
| kwwii | the next catch phrase "KDE - the desktop Brandon made!" | 12:01 |
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| imbrandon | kwwii: bored :) | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | kwwii: hahahaha | 12:02 |
| imbrandon | man i'm kinda skeptical now about the mark letter and such, i have mixed feelings | 12:02 |
| kwwii | don't worry, we are all in the same boot | 12:03 |
| kwwii | boat | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | i think it was a good idea, just done in the wrong way | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | yea | 12:03 |
| kwwii | in the meantime, I am actually kinda used to waiting | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 12:03 |
| imbrandon | true that | 12:03 |
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| imbrandon | well i said i would give a kubuntu "talk" i dident know it was going to be so "targeted" | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | so i'm uhhhh now _I_ get to take heat ( as its the day _before_ marks q & a | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | lol | 12:04 |
| kwwii | lol | 12:04 |
| imbrandon | but oh well , i guess you live and learn, it will all work out in the end ( i hope ) | 12:05 |
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| kwwii | yeah, that has been my working theory until now, and it has proven well | 12:05 |
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| imbrandon | :) | 12:05 |
| imbrandon | btw i did some code updates that art.u.c and art.k.o can have seperate image themes if you ever feel like kicking something up there ( totaly upto you, its really on my back burner right now but thought i would mention it ) | 12:06 |
| imbrandon | just one of those things if you get a wild hair, if not cool , if so kick ass :) | 12:07 |
| kwwii | killer, I'll get to work on that later | 12:07 |
| kwwii | oh, I'll take a shot at it...I'll ping you when I have time to start | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | :) | 12:07 |
| kwwii | sometime next week, probably | 12:07 |
| imbrandon | cool, thats cool for me too , as i start a new job monday and will need some stress time :) | 12:08 |
| kwwii | hehe, I wish I had a solid job | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | but the one cool thing is my new job already said i can spend a certain ammount of time on kubuntu a day | 12:08 |
| kwwii | that is really cool | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | that ammount is to be determinaned but still cool | 12:08 |
| imbrandon | ye it actualy sounds like a really cool place, i dont official start till monday but i've been in there a few times and seen some of the backend stuff, | 12:09 |
| imbrandon | i was suprised when he said it was cool since they run almost all RHEL | 12:09 |
| kwwii | what kind of company is it? | 12:09 |
| imbrandon | server hosting , but for like big companies only, like they do for visa credit cards, walmart, burgerking etc | 12:10 |
| kwwii | cool, sounds like fun | 12:10 |
| imbrandon | actualy its going to be a boring job but still be kinda cool | 12:11 |
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| imbrandon | i have a sysadmin position, those are always fun to sit an watch graphs of 1000's of boxes | 12:11 |
| imbrandon | hehe | 12:11 |
| imbrandon | here is their public portfolio http://www.gsihosting.com/apps/application-development-sample-projects.aspx | 12:12 |
| imbrandon | hehe you wish you had a "regular" job? i'll trade you for a canonical contract :) hehe | 12:12 |
| kwwii | dude, I wish I had a canonical contract too :p still waiting on an answer, contract, etc. | 12:13 |
| Hobbsee | hey all | 12:14 |
| fdoving | hi hobbsee. | 12:15 |
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| pip | Hello,why was my "packing database locked by some applications," but in fact I did not run any aplications, beccause,I just restarted my box | 12:17 |
| fdoving | !adept crash fix | pip | 12:17 |
| ubotu | pip: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a' | 12:17 |
| pip | thanks | 12:18 |
| pip | is that a bug ? | 12:18 |
| fdoving | well.. not really.. but it's not a good thing either.. should probably clean it up somehow automatically. | 12:20 |
| pip | : ) | 12:20 |
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| pip | there was an error commiting changes.Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break the packages." what's wrong ? | 12:27 |
| pip | does it have something to do with the source list ? | 12:28 |
| Hobbsee | you'll have to hit "show more" or "details" or whatever it's called to see | 12:28 |
| pip | But it often happens,I am used to it | 12:29 |
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| Hobbsee | it just means that adept has hit something hard, and doesnt know if you really want to do what you're doing | 12:30 |
| pip | so he is smart | 12:30 |
| apokryphos | where's mornfall been by the way? Haven't seen him in quite some time. | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | he's in here, sometimes | 12:48 |
| apokryphos | he used to always been around; guess RL is busy atm 8) | 12:50 |
| kwwii | time for lunch sooon | 12:59 |
| kwwii | bbl | 12:59 |
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| Hobbsee | way cool. "monitors and display" module has totally died in feisty | 01:09 |
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| pip | Errors were encountered while processing: | 01:56 |
| pip | tz-brasil | 01:56 |
| pip | what does it mean ? | 01:56 |
| Hobbsee | pip: means that apt's had errors, for some reason. doesnt tell you which ones, unless you look up futher | 01:57 |
| pip | Hobbsee | 01:58 |
| pip | Hobbsee,nice to see you : ) | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 01:59 |
| pip | Hobbsee ,wa~~you are so professional | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | heh. wish my boss thought that :P | 01:59 |
| Hobbsee | why do you say that? | 01:59 |
| pip | feel | 02:00 |
| pip | your boss ? you got a job ? | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | sure | 02:00 |
| pip | kubuntu development ? | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | and my boss came in tonight, to put up christmas decorations, when she wasnt supposed to. grr! | 02:00 |
| Hobbsee | nope | 02:00 |
| === Hobbsee is a check out chick | ||
| imbrandon | wow i read that totaly wrong :) | 02:13 |
| === Hobbsee smacks imbrandon | ||
| imbrandon | heh, i'm not /that/ bad | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | sure sure | 02:15 |
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| pip | aho.my adept is down | 02:42 |
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| gnomefreak | imbrandon: you are teaching to classes next week with topic kubuntu? | 02:53 |
| === Jucato will be attending all "classes" | ||
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| gnomefreak | would have liked to have seen one on merging too | 02:55 |
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| gnomefreak | Jucato: your still using koffice 1.6.1 right? | 03:11 |
| Jucato | on Edgy? yes | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | does the repo work for you? | 03:11 |
| Jucato | although I think the repository isn't available anymore | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 03:11 |
| Jucato | no, when I apt-get update, I get errors | 03:11 |
| gnomefreak | me too | 03:12 |
| gnomefreak | 404 | 03:12 |
| gnomefreak | ok this is getting really frigging strange | 03:23 |
| Jucato | apt-get problems on feisty? | 03:25 |
| gnomefreak | the apt crash | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | its one of 2 repos | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | :) and im betting i know what one | 03:26 |
| Jucato | heh :) | 03:26 |
| gnomefreak | only thing i did is add koffice and pittis debug repo to my list than ran update now apt and the like are crashing | 03:27 |
| gnomefreak | koffice repo is for edgy and works for you im betting its pittis | 03:27 |
| gnomefreak | oh well back to reinstall unles swhile im outside smoke i come up with a better way :( | 03:28 |
| Jucato | the 1.6.1 repo for Edgy doesn't work anymore I think | 03:28 |
| gnomefreak | it doesnt | 03:28 |
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| gnomefreak | this is #4 reinstall in 10 days ill be back on later i hope | 03:41 |
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| nixternal | Hobbsee|Remote: i got feisty to boot, but only with the 2.6.17 kernel | 06:06 |
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| hunger | What is the power-manager of choice this release cycle? | 08:08 |
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| hunger | What is the power-manager of choice this release cycle? | 08:10 |
| fdoving | hunger: i've heard roumours about kpowersave with hal support.. i can not confirm that though.. | 08:22 |
| hunger | fdoving: Thanks! | 08:23 |
| hunger | fdoving: I am only asking since guidence-p-m no longer starts since I upgraded the kernel. | 08:23 |
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| toma | fdoving: it synced the addressbook from the palm, let me try the other way now | 08:51 |
| toma | fdoving: ah, no need, you are on my palm now, so that works ;-) | 08:52 |
| toma | including that funny o of you | 08:52 |
| fdoving | toma: so it's all good? | 08:52 |
| fdoving | the funny | 08:52 |
| toma | yes, that one ;-) | 08:53 |
| toma | anything more to test then addressbook and todo? | 08:53 |
| toma | agenda | 08:53 |
| toma | let me try | 08:53 |
| fdoving | calendar entries? | 08:54 |
| toma | yes | 08:54 |
| toma | works | 08:56 |
| toma | lets make a conflict | 08:56 |
| toma | works | 08:57 |
| toma | i'm almost thinking kpilot is usable ;-) | 08:57 |
| fdoving | that's a good thing. | 08:57 |
| toma | fdoving: should i add a note somewhere on launchpad? | 08:58 |
| fdoving | yes, taht would be great. | 08:58 |
| toma | where? | 08:59 |
| toma | ah got it | 08:59 |
| fdoving | bug 66313 | 08:59 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 66313 in kdepim "Calendar does not synch with palm device" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66313 | 08:59 |
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| fdoving | imbrandon: ping? status on kdepim for feisty? | 09:45 |
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| nixternal | someone with konqi, goto http://www.meijer.com and scroll down with a mouse wheel..tell me if konqi crashes for you (especially if you are using feisty) | 11:48 |
| nixternal | you don't even have to scroll...that site makes konqi in feisty crash for me | 11:49 |
| jjesse | then how will you buy your groceries :) | 11:49 |
| nixternal | hehe | 11:49 |
| nixternal | exactly | 11:49 |
| nixternal | imbrandon: you guys have meijer by you? me and jjesse may be the only ones that know what it is | 11:50 |
| lengau | Hey guys - Quick poll here. Should I separate the Ubuntu and Kubuntu RestrictedFormats pages (as in make a RestrictedFormats page on the Kubuntu wiki with the instructions for Kubuntu and remove those from the one on the Ubuntu help site) | 11:53 |
| claydoh | crashes in Konq in Edgy here | 11:56 |
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| allee | lengau: IMHO: depends how much they have in common. If most stuff is the same stay with one page. if not split. | 12:00 |
| claydoh | How about keeping the original, and still adding a Kubuntu page :) | 12:02 |
| lengau | @claydoh: That's a good idea. :-) | 12:02 |
| lengau | Most of what applies to both is simply links to other pages. | 12:03 |
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