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robotgeektanlaan: yes12:12
tanlaanrobotgeek: ok, then ill get started on installing os 9 and kubuntu dual boot12:12
robotgeektanlaan: okay. i have not used it with os 912:13
tanlaanrobotgeek: oo, are the instructions on the website fine for kubuntu?12:13
hif it is the hw, I wonder how to find out?12:13
tanlaanrobotgeek: because i do know that it is an rpm, and that i need to use something like alien on it right?12:13
robotgeektanlaan: its in the ubuntu repos12:14
joe3kh: first of all you can check your dmesg output12:14
tanlaanrobotgeek: oo ok that makes it a LOT easier, lol12:14
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tanlaanrobotgeek:  ok then im off :D12:14
tanlaanrobotgeek:  thanks for you help12:14
joe3kh: 'dmesg | tail -n 20' or use > 2012:14
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hI have output to show you, shall I join another # so that I don't litter this page?12:16
cox377joe3k: its asking me for which flags, i've selected boot partition12:17
joe3kh: well do you see there something looking like errors?12:17
hfor sure!12:17
joe3kcox377: ....flags? don't get it :)12:17
joe3kh: ok so paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:18
hthis irc says I have to register, but I don't know how.12:18
joe3kh: please paste to the url12:18
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Hawkwind!register | h12:18
ubotuh: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:18
joe3kh: and then paste the resulting url here12:18
hackeronanyone? - how do I stop gwenview from playing videos or at least stop resetting my volume from 3% to f****** 80%??12:19
hhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33763/12:19
hthat's slick :)12:19
hi didn't know you could do that12:19
Chousukeeep12:19
Chousukethat looks evil12:20
joe3kh: i'm sorry too bad12:20
joe3kChousuke: :)12:20
Chousukefailing hardware?12:20
cox377joe3k: anyway, i made a swap of 1gb, select ext3 as primary file system and it's now installing, it didnt say anything about mbr12:20
hwell, who knows?  The thing works fone in my Mac.12:20
hi meant it works fine12:20
hkeep in mind, this is just a puny external firewire drive12:21
joe3kcox377: it will maybe later ... actually the boot loaders are installed usually at the end12:21
joe3kh: could be that the drivers for the firewire are not ok12:21
hthe ones Ubuntu is using here?12:22
h...on my box/12:22
h?\12:22
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DekKeDI am trying Beryl and all my Windows have no borders and no titlebar. Any fix?12:22
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joe3kh: what fw controller do you have? some onboard one?12:23
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hum, how do I tell?12:23
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hlspci?12:23
joe3kh: try lspci12:23
h:)12:23
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hjoe3k:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33765/12:25
londo4help, I need hyperterminal, who knows what is the hyperterminal in kubuntu?12:25
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robotgeeklondo4: which program did you decide on?12:25
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joe3kh: btw do you have dapper or edgy?12:26
cox377joe3k: ok cool just checking, i may have deleted the partition on my primary drive anyway haha. i didnt read the partition manager properly ,, it did come up with an error saying cannot delete but i suppose i wont know till i reboot12:27
hit looks like I do not;  however, I tried searching synaptic, and found no results.12:27
londo4robotgeek: I need to use or config myn router, en I don`t what kubuntu use to connect a router from console port12:27
robotgeeklondo4: did i not point you to a couple of links yesterday.12:28
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joe3kcox377: well that's the reason i always do that stuff manually ..... not to get surprised12:28
robotgeeki dont know as i havent done it myself before12:28
londo4ok12:28
joe3kh: it's the ubuntu version, it's not a package12:28
joe3kh: can you please do 'uname -a'12:29
hoh, one moment...12:29
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cox377joe3k: i may learn the hardway12:29
cox377;)12:29
londo4robotgeek: do you know what minicom is?12:29
robotgeeklondo4: nope12:29
joe3kcox377: anyway these are the "dirty" installers i meant :)12:30
h..h-desktop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux12:30
joe3kh: ok, this is edgy ....12:30
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joe3kh: seems to be this one, http://www.linux1394.org/view_device.php?id=978 and should "work great"12:32
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hyou're saying that's my hardware, correct?12:33
joe3kh: well i'm afraid i can't help more .... you could try to google for the error messages or look for kernel/ubuntu bugs12:33
joe3kh: yes12:33
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joe3kh: look at the lspci entry on that page12:33
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vega-what's the kubuntu "de facto" iptables/netfilter frontend? if there is such a default..12:35
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hjoe3k:  I do thank you for your help though.12:35
BluesKajIt sure would be nice to get access to my Monitor and display controls so i can fix this desktop and make it more useable again12:35
david__hey can someone help me with installing java runtime environment?12:36
joe3kh: ok ... hope you find someone else who has more exp with fw :) gotta go to bed anyway now ;)12:36
joe3kgn12:36
vega-david__: theres excellent docs on that in ubuntu/kubuntu wiki12:36
hThanks again, bye///12:36
david__thanks12:37
vega-and besides nowadays i think it's just "apt-get install sun-java5-jre"12:37
david__im also having trouble running Beryl. dont suppose anyone can help with that aswell :)12:37
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Dr_willisHeh - every so often a cute game shows up..   http://grubbygames.com/games.php   'fizzball' seems to be such a game. :) too bad its comercial.. $20 :( but the demo is very very long.. heh12:46
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BluesKajgotta get my desktop back ... no access to monitor/display controls !12:58
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intelikeyJucato !12:59
BluesKajWB Jucato12:59
JucatoO.O01:00
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Jucatomoin! :)01:00
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BluesKajmy desktop is HUGE ...need accwss to Monitor res controls but I have orphaned modules somwhere preventing it !01:01
Jucatotry reinstalling kde-guidance, if it helps.. :(01:01
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BluesKajJucato, already the newest version01:02
Jucatoby reinstall, I meant "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"01:03
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fabio#sesso01:04
fabiosesso per tutti01:04
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fabiosiiiiiiiiiiiii01:04
intelikeykde-guidance is written in python01:04
noiesmoI am running nvidia driver 9269 on kubuntu edgy I have resolution set to 1152x864 however when I start Opengl game the resolution switches to 1024x768 is there a way to stop this and retain 1152x864 res01:04
fabiolo sesso01:04
intelikey?01:04
fabionel sesso01:04
ubuntuhow do you uncomment the two universe repositories?01:04
fabiono?01:04
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intelikey!it01:05
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:05
Xal2what is a good onscreen keyboard?01:05
Jucato!universe | ubuntu01:05
ubotuubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:05
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intelikeyAfter unpacking 357MB disk space will be freed.01:07
intelikeyTo continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'01:07
intelikey ?]  Yes, do as I say!01:07
intelikeyhmmmm ooops.01:07
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intelikeyfrom ^ sudo apt-get remove --purge python*01:08
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BluesKajJucato, success ! ...thx !01:10
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Jucatonice :)01:10
BluesKaj:)01:10
intelikeylooks like if it starts with a 'k' then removing python will remove it....01:11
BluesKajI like the 'history" command in the terminal cuz one can go back to a reference command if one forgets :001:12
BluesKaj:)01:12
intelikeyBluesKaj uparrow...01:12
londo4how can I get into the root directorie?01:12
intelikey!hiden01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hiden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
intelikey!hidden01:12
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles01:12
|lostbyte|BluesKaj, ctrl + r and type a little of the command.01:12
BluesKajintelikey, upnarrow ?01:13
intelikeylondo4 ^   konsole  cd /path...01:13
intelikeyBluesKaj yes.  in the bash shell [up-arrow]  key01:13
BluesKajoh ok ... DOH!01:13
BluesKajwell, "history" lists everything ... byut i like the uparrow as well.. cool!01:15
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intelikeyBluesKaj one can uparrow and then edit lines as well as using macros   man bash for all the fun stuff01:16
ubuntuwhat is mac on linux set under on the ubuntu repositories01:17
ubuntu*?01:17
Dr_willis!find mac01:17
ubotuFound: emacs, emacs-el, emacs-goodies-el, emacs-nox, emacs21 (and 89 others)01:17
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Dr_willisHmm... !apple01:17
ubuntui tried mol, and searching "mac"01:17
Dr_willisthats a ppc thing?01:18
ubuntuyea01:18
ubuntuits so you can run mac OS in linux01:18
robotgeekubuntu: mol, i think01:19
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tanlaanrobotgeek: only atomix comes up01:19
robotgeektanlaan: momento01:19
BluesKaj!Bill Gates01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Bill Gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
BluesKaj:)01:20
robotgeektanlaan: taken a look at the wikipage?01:20
BluesKaj!OSX01:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:20
tanlaanrobotgeek: nope01:20
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robotgeektanlaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto01:22
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intelikeythat origenal 357m now another  58.1MB of libs via deborphan... i'll have some more free space now....01:24
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intelikeynow if i remove perl .......01:25
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intelikeyAfter unpacking 536MB disk space will be freed.01:25
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ineedehelpok, I am completely lost....how in the heck do I install the kde enviroment in ubuntu?01:30
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ineedehelphello01:31
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Dr_willisthe kubuntu faq tells ya. :P01:32
Dr_willissudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:32
ineedehelpwell01:32
intelikeyineedehelp sudo apt-get install kde01:32
Dr_willisand watch it go.,01:32
fildois there any issues with qt ? in kde01:32
Dr_willisfildo,  Hmm... id hope not. :)01:33
fildolet me rephrase that, known issues?01:33
Dr_willisheh01:33
Dr_willisnot any that i am aware of.01:33
ineedehelpok, that was what I needed....the faq (from what I could see) just told me WHAT I needed to install, and not how01:33
Dr_willisineedehelp,  simple way from a shell ------->  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:33
Dr_willisor fire up synaptic and search for 'kubuntu-desktop'01:34
Jucatoineedehelp: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde01:34
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ZarephathHey Dr_willis : How goes it?01:35
Dr_willishow Zarephath01:35
Dr_willistesting out some demos of some games..01:35
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Dr_willisFizzBall - is an amusing game . Not free however.01:36
Dr_willisbut almost worth the $20 - considering i spent the last hr+ playing the demo..01:36
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ineedehelpok, thanks guys...I guess I'll see how this goes01:36
ineedehelpalso, any good book reccomendations?01:37
intelikeyineedehelp rute-book01:37
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mildnerany german here01:38
BluesKaj!de01:38
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:38
ryanakcathe only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is ubuntu-desktop vs kubuntu-desktop, right?01:41
Jucatobasically, GNOME vs KDE01:41
Dr_willisYep.01:42
ryanakcathought so01:42
Dr_willisI install them both. :)01:42
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ryanakcaI have a pile of window managers installed :)01:43
Jucatoyou don't have e17?01:43
ryanakcaprobably do...01:43
Jucatoaewm? hm... never heard of that one01:43
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ryanakcaaewm - a minimalist window manager for X1101:44
BluesKajDr_willis, so you choose which desktop at the login page ?01:44
Jucatoaren't they all minimalist already? (aside from xfce, gnome and kde) :P01:45
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  exactly01:45
Dr_willisthers lots of diffrent window managers to play with. :)01:45
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ryanakcaJucato: afterstep isn't THAT minimalist01:46
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Dr_willisfrom the uberlight to the uber-heavy01:46
Jucatoah01:46
Dr_willisAfterstep is sort of old-skool. :)01:46
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Dr_willisI like Windowmaker for a alternative01:46
ryanakcaI have Enlightenment as well01:47
Dr_willispuppylinux uses jwm which is very very light01:47
Dr_willisthen ya got others with different design goals.01:47
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Dr_willisMatchBox (not related to fluxbox/blackbox) then the other XYZbox's01:47
Dr_williswmx, wmii, icewm (a nice one also)01:47
Dr_willissawfish (or is it sawmill now?)01:47
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Jucatoheheh01:48
ryanakcaicewm is nice01:48
Jucatothere's already fluxbuntu I think, or whatever it's called01:48
ryanakcayeah01:48
Dr_willisyes - thats a work in progress i hear.01:48
ryanakcafubuntu: fvwm + ubuntu01:48
Jucatothe ebuntu never took off it seems01:48
ryanakcafubuntu95 = fvwm 95 + ubuntu01:48
ryanakcawhat happened to zUbuntu?01:49
ineedehelpwell, I'm a n00b at linux (I am usually a computer nerd, but we didn't have enough money for me to have my own computer, and my family won't let me install on our shared computer, so this is my first time with linux)01:49
Dr_willisHow about a "SelectWhatWHenYouInstallUbuntu"01:49
ryanakcaa SWWYIUbuntu?01:49
Dr_willisineedehelp,  live cd + a usb memory stick = easy way to have linux. :)01:49
ryanakcalike most distros now adays?01:49
Jucatohm... how about PSUbuntu301:50
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ryanakcaeven though you'd undup with like 4 cds...01:50
Dr_willisDont even get me started on SONY...01:50
Dr_willis:)01:50
ryanakcalol01:50
JucatoWUbuntii?01:50
familyI'm getting a crash every time I attempt to launch Konsole, anyone else ?01:50
Dr_willisWTFubuntu :_01:50
ryanakcaGoobuntu01:50
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Jucatohm... looks like a nice naming alternative... put prefixes and suffixes around *ubunt* or *bunt*01:51
ineedehelpwell, I finally got the CD in the mail (live in the country, so our sattelite only has a 512k connection), and I think I'm going to go buy a book on linux tonight01:51
familywhat command shows the packages, and the version of them ?01:51
Jucatoineedehelp: before you go buy a book, you might want to check out the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with the installation01:51
familyand is there a way to easily _downgrade_ to my prior installed package of konsole/kde ?01:52
Dr_willisineedehelp,  theres lots of online docs.. and some better live cds out then the Ubuntu ones.01:52
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Dr_willisdepends on what you want to do  for the most part however.01:52
Jucatothe Desktop Guide can be read offline for your viewing convenience01:52
Jucatoah yes, better Live CD's...01:52
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Dr_willisNew version of PuppyLinux just came out. :)01:53
Dr_willistesting out MCNLive also.01:53
ineedehelphmmmm, ok, thanks. I just like to tweak everything and get a feel for whats going on. I guess I'll just have to snoop around a bit01:53
ineedehelpthanks01:53
familyDr_willis: think I might be in need of a downgrade, got a second to help me identify versions of my Konsole/kde, and get me started on trying a lower version01:53
familyDr_willis: right now Konsole crashes every time I try to start it01:53
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Dr_willisfamily,  ive never heard of anyone needing to do a downgrade like that...01:54
ryanakcafamily: apt-cache show package01:54
Dr_willisfamily,  as a test.. go to the console, and create a new user, then login with that user and see if the same problem happens01:54
familyDr_willis: Trevios Ubuntu Edgy Sources list01:54
family# http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/?page_id=1301:54
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Dr_willisalso you may want to 'sudo apt-get install xterm' so you can try launching xterm, instead of konsole.01:54
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ryanakcawhat was mtp (port 57)?01:54
familyDr_willis: good idea, if not I can just nuke my prefs or /tmp -- riiight ;)01:55
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Dr_williskde settings are in .kde01:55
Dr_willisIF the new user works.. it may be a .kde/* settings issue01:55
familyDr_willis: crash reports a lib error, want me to drop it on pastebin ?01:56
family!pastebin01:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:56
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Dr_willisfamily,  proberly wont do me much good to see it.01:57
Dr_willisfamily,  it crashes with the new user still?01:57
familyI find it strange, if it is a lib error that its the only thing I've seen act up01:57
familyDr_willis: I'll go create the user... one sec I just tried nuking .kde/share/conf/konsolerc01:57
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Dr_willisegads - if you have been using that site for your apt repos list.... thats scary. :)01:59
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Dr_willisI tend to add a site i need... then install the stuff.. then remove it from my sources.list (or comment it out)01:59
ryanakcawhy don't we use #flood?01:59
Dr_willisits too damp and musty01:59
Dr_willis:)01:59
Jucatotoo flooded?01:59
Jucato:)02:00
familyDr_willis: you talking to me on the sources.list egads ?02:00
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ineedehelpok, so which is better? KDE or Gnome? because I am still having trouble getting KDE t even install02:00
jeff_hi, all02:00
ryanakcawhy don't we use #flood?02:00
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familyDr_willis: going to do the new user now... wish me luck02:00
Dr_willisyea - thats a bit extreme family02:00
ryanakcaineedehelp: KDE :) in terminal/console run: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'02:01
familyDr_willis: yeah, been messing with that the last couples days, and starting to think it was a mistake02:01
ryanakcaI mean, it depends on your personal preference02:01
jeff_stupid question -- I've got a new Edgy install here, and the Disks & Filesystems manager is telling me I can't use NFS file systems with the currently installed kernel.02:01
Dr_willisfamily,  heh - i got that site bookmarked... but im not THAT brave to use it.02:01
Dr_willis:P02:01
jeff_I installed nfs-common, but I'm used to Mandr[ake|iva] , which needed the nfs-utils rpm.  What package am I missing here to allow my machine to act as a NFS client?02:02
Dr_willis!nfs02:02
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.02:02
jeff_Dr_willis: ah, thanks.  I didn't know there was a bot in-channel.02:03
Dr_willis!bot02:03
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:03
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ineedehelpryanakca: I tried that, but it give me an error telling me my packages are broken02:06
ryanakcaineedehelp: pastebin please02:07
ineedehelpdo I need to get some other ones? the ubuntu website told me my disc should come with it02:07
ineedehelpReading package lists... Done02:07
ineedehelpBuilding dependency tree... Done02:07
ineedehelpSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have02:07
ineedehelprequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable02:07
ineedehelpdistribution that some required packages have not yet been created02:07
ineedehelpor been moved out of Incoming.02:07
ryanakca!pastebin02:08
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:08
ryanakcaineedehelp: what commands are you running? can you pastebin your sources.list please?02:08
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sponixDr_willis, crashes under this user as well, exact same lib error02:09
sponixDr_willis, could you post a sane sources.list for me so I can have it for the reinstall ?02:09
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BonBonTheJonhas source-o-matic been updated for edgy02:10
sponixBonBonTheJon, not that I've seen02:10
ineedehelpoj crap02:10
ineedehelpI gtg02:10
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ineedehelpI'll try again tonight....peace02:10
Dr_willis!source02:10
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:10
Dr_willis!easysource02:11
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic02:11
Dr_williswait a sec..not sure that last one supported edgy yet.02:11
Dr_willisheh.02:11
sponixnope, or I would have used it02:11
Dr_willis!sources.list02:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:11
BonBonTheJonyeah, who is in charge of source-o-matic?02:11
Dr_willisof course chagneing your sources.list NOW is a bit late. :)02:11
sponixyeah... plan to just nuke/reinstall but want a sane sources.list first02:13
Jucatowiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato has a sane sources.list02:13
Jucatolet me make that clickable... http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato02:13
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Jucatothat very much the default sources.list that comes with Edgy02:14
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sponixis there an easy way to make apt compare what I have against the current of the sane one, and step down ?02:15
Dr_willis!apt02:15
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)02:15
Dr_willisheh... that would be an interesting thing to do.02:15
Dr_willisremove all programs tht came from alternative repos...02:15
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Petzimoin02:19
sponixwhat was the command to show all installed pkg's and their version etc ?02:19
BonBonTheJonsponix: dpkg -l02:19
Varjat_byHi! Is anybody try to install LIRC on Kubuntu?02:19
fildono02:20
fildokonversation is better02:20
fildoor bitchx02:20
BonBonTheJonfildo: I agree02:20
fildosudo apt-get install konversation / bitchx02:20
fildonice n simple02:20
Varjat_bydmesg write the following : [17180030.876000]  lirc_dev: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted02:20
Varjat_byWhat does it mean?02:21
Varjat_by[17180030.876000]  lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 6102:21
Varjat_by[17180195.492000]  lirc_gpio (-1): could not get card type02:21
BonBonTheJonfildo: different LIRC02:21
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guptaWhle compiling something: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.02:22
guptawhat's up? package missing?02:22
Jucatogupta: have you installed "kde-devel"?02:22
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guptalet me check02:22
wildchild!kde-devel02:22
ubotukde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB02:22
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wildchildwhat is kde-devel used for02:23
Jucatofor compiling kde apps02:23
wildchildaa02:23
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Jucatoanything related to kde development02:23
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guptaurgh, its not installe and needs to update kfind/kicker to install :(02:24
intelikeyis there any substitute/alternative for the ppp package ?02:24
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guptatotal 77mb.. any other alternatives?02:25
Jucatogupta: none. you need kde-devel to compile kde apps02:25
Jucatoalthough I'm not sure why kfind and kicker would be upgraded in the process02:25
wildchildhow can I set konqueror that the view wuld be "tree view"02:25
wildchildit's allways "icon view"02:25
JucatoView menu -> View Mode02:26
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Jucatothe Settings -> Save View Profile as....02:26
wildchildtnx..02:26
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intelikeyUnable to open vt 2: Permission denied02:27
voidmageI have a weird thing going on, sometimes /proc/cpuinfo reports the wrong cpu speed02:27
wildchildjucato, how can I set that conkqueror will automatically run "my profile"02:27
wildchildautomatically = when start konqueror02:27
intelikeywildchild save as default02:28
Jucatokfmclient openProfile "profile" or konqueror --profile "profile"02:28
sponixDr_willis, BonBonTheJon fixed konsole with a forced remove, and downgrade by apt-get -f install02:29
intelikeyJucato can't he save the profile as "default" and do as much ?02:29
sponixDr_willis, what is in multiverse ?02:30
Jucatowell, I was presuming he made his own because of the "my profile" reference02:30
Dr_willisan addational repository of not officialy supported packages02:30
Dr_willis!multiverse02:30
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:30
wildchildkfmclient: Unknown option '--profile'02:30
wildchildkfmclient: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.02:30
Dr_williswhats in it.. specificially.. no clue. :)02:30
intelikeyJucato ah   well i was assuming it was an extention of the tree view Q02:30
intelikeyso my bad again....02:32
Jucatowildchild: I said "kfmclient openProfile "profile""02:32
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Jucatoor "konqueror --profile "profile""02:32
Jucatobtw, it would probably be best if you just modified the existing profiles (if you want002:32
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Jucatoanyway, afk for now02:32
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intelikeyanyone know of any alternative to ppp package   i refuse to reinstall perl on this system and it seems that ppp depends on perl.02:33
intelikey?02:33
Dr_williswell aint you a Ellitist..02:33
Dr_willis:)02:33
intelikeysome times....02:34
intelikey:)02:34
intelikeybut i see no reason that i should have to have perl just to connect to the inet.02:34
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Dr_willisThe internet runs on perl!02:35
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Dr_willis:)02:35
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Dr_willisits all about the pipes!02:35
Dr_willisAl Gore Invented Perl!02:35
intelikeyno.  it runs on smoke.    remember.02:35
intelikeybut bill didn't inhale02:35
Dr_willisactually i think it runs on Coal. :)02:35
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Dr_willisMS pattented the Internet!02:36
Dr_willis;)02:36
intelikey;/02:36
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intelikeyM$ pattented .   and  -  and  !=  too.02:36
mildnerplease again the german page02:37
intelikey!de02:38
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:38
intelikeynot that ^ ?02:38
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lrentz_Anyone have an idea why my sudu command stopped working on the command line?02:41
intelikeylrentz_ group change ?02:41
lrentz_No.02:41
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familyDr_willis: every package updated from that repos had 3v1 in the name, so I just nuked all them, and now I'm updating to get the originals back :P02:41
intelikeylrentz_  sudo echo working ?02:41
familyDr_willis: worked for Konsole, might keep another few issues from cropping up later02:41
intelikeyif it says working back at you it is...02:42
lrentz_let me see02:42
Dr_willisapt-get remove * :)02:42
lrentz_just says sudu command not found.02:42
lrentz_Is installed though.02:42
intelikeycause sudu is not sudo02:42
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lrentz_Came from suse.  Installed Kubuntu a few days ago after partnership with M$.  Taking me a bit to get use too from Suse.02:43
Trevinhofamily, did you get problems with my repos?02:43
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lrentz_Didnt know that root was disabled by default.02:43
intelikeylrentz_ if you pasted that error.  it's pebcak   typo02:43
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lrentz_didnt paste it. Just typed it.02:44
lrentz_bash: sudu: command not found02:44
intelikey<lrentz_> just says sudu command not found.   <--- typo some where.02:44
intelikeylrentz_ :)02:44
intelikeylrentz_ let me say this real slowly.    S U D O02:45
familyTrevinho: yeah... Could have used you a sec ago :)02:45
intelikeyO O O O !02:45
mildnerhi02:45
Trevinhoehm?02:45
familyTrevinho: just put a nuke out on your packs .. Had a crashing Konsole .. want the error report ?02:45
skipjackhello, who can I find out whoch charset my Kubuntu system has ?`02:45
Trevinhomh, have you mailed me?02:45
mildneranyone who may help about kubuntu02:45
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Trevinhohere it works well :/02:45
familyTrevinho: I nuked it forced, and then downgraded to the vanilla one, and it works02:45
Trevinhomhmh02:46
lrentz_crap.02:46
lrentz_hehehe02:46
intelikey:)02:46
familyTrevinho: I saved the crash log gerated by kde into a text file02:46
Trevinhothe package I built (if you don't know should support REAL transparency...02:46
lrentz_I am just so used to typing su02:46
Trevinhook...02:46
Trevinhogood02:46
Trevinho send it me, please02:46
lrentz_thanks. for slapping me in the head.  I needed it.02:46
Trevinhoare you running beryl?02:46
mildneris there any tool on the grafical desktop for partitioning the HD02:46
lrentz_;)02:46
intelikeyyeah that was a good one lrentz_ but i'm not ready to abdocate the throne just yet.   i'm still typo king here.02:46
Trevinhoor compiz instead.....02:47
Trevinhomaybe.....02:47
Trevinhoit could be buggy :/02:47
lrentz_Thanks for the help anyway.02:47
intelikeynp02:47
Trevinhofamily ?02:47
family!pastebin02:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)02:48
intelikeylrentz_ if you like having access to the root account it can be enabled.   it's not recomended by the "ubuntu team" but all that is required is setting a root passwd02:48
guptaI get this when running wayv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33791/02:49
intelikeythe ubuntu way is to only use the root jr. account    sudo -i   for a root shell.02:49
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lrentz_Yes.  I did read that.  I had it enabled.  But I disabled it again.02:49
familyTrevinho: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33792/02:49
familyTrevinho: thats the error I kept getting02:49
Trevinhook, a related question family02:49
intelikeylrentz_ k  just thought i'd mention.02:49
lrentz_another question if you have time?02:49
Trevinhodid you run beryl while launching konsole?02:49
Trevinhoand.....02:49
intelikeysure02:49
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Trevinhoare you using latest kubuntu binaries?02:50
familyTrevinho: never heard of beryl .. and I am running the one from the kubuntu.org latest repos02:50
Trevinhomh02:50
lrentz_Just got a new laptop.  Core 2 duo.   Kubuntu recognized the dual cores. but give this message:02:50
lrentz_[17179608.272000]  APIC error on CPU0: 00(40)02:51
lrentz_[17179608.272000]  APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)02:51
Trevinhoso why have you installed my konsole? it should be in the beryl repo......02:51
Trevinhoah.....02:51
Trevinhomh02:51
Trevinhomaybe you've my sources.list02:51
Trevinhoof you've it, comment the repo (beryl-svn)02:51
Trevinhobecouse that file is suggested to beryl users only.....02:52
Trevinhoanyway I'll try to fix it..02:52
lrentz_It does not seem to scale the frequencies.  Always says 1000 mhz.  Even .in intensive apps.  Its a 2 ghz Core 2 duo02:52
familyTrevinho: I might have had beryl turned on.. I had most on at one point02:52
Trevinhomh02:52
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familyTrevinho: I just went back to a standard sources.list02:53
Trevinhobecouse that version supports transparency if there's a composite manager02:53
Trevinhoanyway here it works fine :/02:53
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Trevinhoit's so strange :/02:54
lrentz_Intelikey: any ideas?02:54
intelikeylrentz_ actually you haven't asked anything.  but before you do.   i don't have duo so i probably wont be much help there.   you should search on the ubuntu wiki's    for info on that.  there has been some chatter about scaling   but i haven't kept up with it.02:54
intelikey!wiki02:55
ubotuwiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation02:55
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intelikey!wiki | lrentz_02:55
ubotulrentz_: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation02:55
lrentz_Ok,  Thanks.  I will check it out.02:55
intelikeylrentz_ if you can't find anything there.  check back here.02:56
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intelikeyk.   luck with it.02:56
lrentz_Definately will.  Alway get good help with the community.02:56
lrentz_You guys are awesome.02:56
familyTrevinho: probably me not having matching libs or something odd02:57
crxyemanyone here know of a descent slax irc channel that's active besides the one here at freenode ?02:57
intelikeycrxyem efnet i think02:58
crxyemI'll try there02:58
crxyemthanks02:58
Mlcloudefnet...02:58
Mlcloudmeh.02:58
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Trevinhofamily, maybe.. but it loads the same I think03:00
Trevinhoplease pastebin me the resoult of "ldd /usr/bin/konsole"03:01
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familyTrevinho: I already downgraded ... I can do it on my current one though (it runs fine)03:03
MlcloudIs kubuntu Edgy supposed to detect network cards automatically within the system settings->network connections?03:04
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intelikeywell looks like i'll have to totally hack this thing to get ppp to work on it03:05
Mlcloudlshw detects the card, but the network settings itself doesn't list anything03:05
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Mlcloudnooo one?03:06
JohnFluxHey all!03:06
JohnFluxI love you all!03:06
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familyTrevinho: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33798/03:07
Trevinhothanks03:07
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keatonThis is a really, really stupid question, but how do I save a document in vim?03:16
robotgeekkeaton: :wq filename03:17
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keatonI'll try that, brb03:18
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bobindyhi03:26
pdrobehi03:26
bobindydo you know how to set up a kubuntu network03:26
bobindycause I don't03:26
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xsacha!samba03:26
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT03:26
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Dr_willisthe phrase 'network' is very broad. :)03:27
Dr_willisplug all the pcs into the right hubs/routers and see if they can ping each other.. if they can.. you are networked.03:28
bobindyI have two computers with ethernet and kubuntu03:28
bobindythey aren't speaking03:28
Dr_willisthey both plug into a hub/router/switch?03:28
bobindythe network works flawlessly with windows03:28
bobindyyes pluged into hub03:28
bobindydlink cards in both03:29
campbch__does anyone use/has seen eclipse?03:29
Dr_willisbobbyd,  that 'flawlessy in windows logic' never means much.. other then the hardware is working. :) so thats good..03:29
bobindykingston hub03:29
Dr_willisbobbyd,  so get on the konsole on each..03:29
bobindyyou are right03:29
Dr_willisrun 'ifconfig' see what ip each machine has.03:29
Dr_willisexample -->  inet addr:192.168.1.10103:29
bobindyok03:29
Dr_willisfrom one machine.. ping the ip of the other.03:30
bobindyhow do I ping03:30
Dr_willisping 192.168.1.10103:30
Dr_willisnetworking FUNdamentals03:30
Dr_willis:)03:30
bobindyI know doc03:30
Dr_willisuse the ip of one of the other  machines.03:30
bobindybut you gotta help me03:30
Dr_willisboth machines DO have ip #'s right? and they are not the same # ?03:31
bobindyyes I assigned them numbers03:31
bobindybut I will go and run the ifconfig03:31
bobindybrb03:31
Dr_willisso ifconfig eth003:31
Dr_willisshould show the stats/info on each box's network03:31
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bobindyyes03:33
bobindyit did and one of the numbers was different than what I expected03:34
Dr_willislike 192.168.1.101 and  192.168.1.102  differnt? or   192.168.1.101  vs 255.255.255.255 differnt? :P03:34
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bobindyone was192.168.0.4703:35
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bobindyand the other was 127.0.0.103:35
Dr_williswell every machine has 127.0.0.103:36
Dr_willisthats localhost.03:36
Dr_willisthere should be a eth0 ip.. unless the network card is not confogured right03:37
Dr_willislo        Link encap:Local Loopback03:37
Dr_willis          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.003:37
Dr_willisand03:37
Dr_williseth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:09:88:83:9F03:37
Dr_willis          inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.003:37
Dr_willisare what my current machine has.03:37
keatonResolution problem on my ATI 9200: I've managed to get Xserver running, but now I can't get a non-widescreen resolution greater than 1024x768. It offers 1152x768 as a choice, but when I try to set it there it pops up the 'click okay to keep this setting' box but the resolution stays the same. Same thing happens if I set it to a higher resolution, I switch to 1152x768 but it stays at the higher resolution.03:37
bobindymaybe I need to go back and change the address again03:38
bobindyI did earlier but it changed03:38
Dr_willisbobindy,  its possible one network card dosent have the modules loaded.. there should be some eth# for each one.. this is a wired network right?03:39
bobindyyes03:39
Dr_williskeaton,  you installed the fglrx drivers yet?03:39
bobindyhow do you load the modules03:39
bobindyI think you are on to something03:39
Dr_willismodprobe whatevermoduleyouneed03:39
Dr_willisubuntu is normally good at networkcard detection...03:39
keatonDr_willis: I don't know, I'll check.03:39
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Dr_williskeaton,  im guessing thts a NO then. :)03:40
bobindythey are both the same type card03:40
Dr_willis!fglrx03:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:40
bobindyis modprobe a command03:40
Dr_willistry 'lsmod' on each box to see what modules03:40
Dr_willisare loaded03:40
bobindyok03:40
bobindybrb03:40
xsachahttp://www.hexus.tv/ :P crysis03:40
Dr_willisUsage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-Q]  [-b]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...] 03:40
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fyrmedichow does one go about enabling a pcmcia card slot so I can use a wireless networking card?03:44
bobindyso use modprobe -v03:44
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xsachajust modprobe modname is fine, and lsmod to check if it is loaded03:45
aoeuidwhen trying to install 6.10, my keyboard doesn't work properly03:46
bobindyfatal modprobe modname not found03:46
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bobindyshould it be sudo03:46
Dr_willismodprobe  the_name_of_the_module_you_need_to_load03:47
Dr_willissudo modprobe  the_name_of_the_module_you_need_to_load03:47
Dr_willisheh heh >:)03:47
aoeuid>.>;03:47
Dr_willisand you compare lsmod output on both machines to be sure of the network card module name.03:47
Dr_willisaoeuid,  what kind of keyboard?03:48
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aoeuidI'm using an HP pavillion dv900003:48
bobindywhat is the name of the module03:48
aoeuid:/03:48
aoeuidnotebook03:48
Dr_willisaoeuid,  Hmm..  may be some quirks with that noteboot. There are Ubuntu Wiki/forum sections on various notebooks/laptops03:49
Dr_willisaoeuid,  could also try a usb keyboard to see if that works properly.03:49
aoeuidI don't have on03:49
aoeuide03:49
Dr_willisegads03:49
Dr_willisI must have 12+ keyboards on a shelf.. heh heh:)03:49
aoeuidlol03:50
Dr_willisI really need to clean some of those...03:50
Dr_williscoffe stains that are 3+ yrs old..03:50
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aoeuidxD03:50
aoeuidwhere on the forums?03:50
JohnFluxDr_willis: just wait until they are older and leave home03:50
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aoeuidI tried just searching the forums but there's nothing useful specifically for this one03:52
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Dr_willisttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/03:53
Dr_willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/03:53
bobindyso I modprobe the etho003:54
aoeuidheh03:54
bobindyand nothing03:54
aoeuidthey don't even have the dv900003:54
ryanakcahow do I block all services from the outside except ssh, http and https? I've been messing around with iptables all day with no success... Firestarter and Guarddog are not what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?03:54
aoeuidit was only released not too long ago :/03:54
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Dr_willisaoeuid,  that may be an issue.03:55
aoeuidyeah03:55
Dr_willisaoeuid,  there may be a similer but older model.03:55
aoeuidhmm03:55
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bobindyok well I thank you for your help03:55
Dr_willisryanakca,  block everything.. then allow only those services.. would be the logical way.03:55
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Dr_willisbobindy,  was the module not loaded on one machine?03:56
bobindyI module etho0 not found03:56
bobindyI typed sudo modprobe etho003:57
aoeuidnone of the older ones say anything about the keyboard not working right03:57
Dr_willisbobindy,  look at lsmod output on box #1, look at lsmod output on box #2.. those are a list of the modules loaded on each one03:57
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bobindyk03:57
aoeuidis there any way I could set the keyboard layout myself?03:57
Dr_williseth0 is NOT a modulename, nor  is eth003:57
ryanakcaDr_willis: block everything, and then... it really blocks everything. I can't access irc or ftp or mail or anything servers, only ssh, http, https ones03:57
aoeuidOH03:57
aoeuidalso03:57
aoeuidwhen I hit too many keys it goes to the cli03:58
Dr_willisr8169                   is the modulename for MY  machines network card.. based on the Realtek 8169 chipset03:58
aoeuidand at that point the keyboard works fine03:58
aoeuid>_<03:58
Dr_willisaoeuid,  gets weirder and weirder...03:58
aoeuid:(03:58
aoeuidyeah..03:58
bobindytell me again how to look at ismod03:59
bobindyplease03:59
Dr_willislsmod03:59
Dr_willisis the command..  LiSt MODules03:59
bobindysays bad command03:59
Dr_willislsmod  program to show the status of modules in the Linux Kernel03:59
bobindycommand not found04:00
bobindyoops04:00
Dr_williseither your paths are screwed up.. or you are typing it wrong..04:00
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bobindyI typed it wrong04:02
bobindyIt is working now thanks for your patience04:02
bobindywhat should I be looking for in the module list04:03
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Dr_willisif the machines are identical - there MAY be a differance in the list.04:04
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Dr_willislspci should show some hint as to what network card you have.. and then you look in the list and double check to see if a simileray named module is loaded.04:04
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bobindyok04:04
Alter-Egoi am getting the following error while booting up after having my machine turned off last night04:05
Alter-Ego /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)04:06
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bobindyEthernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Cont04:08
bobindylspci04:09
bobindyintel_agp              22940  104:09
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bobindylsmod04:10
familyhow do I turn off the stupid Kubuntu loading/shutdown logos and see the status text again ?04:10
Dr_willisagp would be a video card thing bobindy04:11
Dr_williseppro or somthing eith   82562 in the name may be the network.. or ya could google for   '82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet  card linux 'and see what shows up04:12
Dr_willishowever IF the 2 machines are identical,. and have identical lsmod outputs.. then we may be looking in the wrong area.04:12
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Dr_willisfamily,  i normally use the nofb/nosplash options for grub to disable the eye candy04:13
klerfaytvga=normal04:13
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aoeuidso is there any way that I could change what keys on the keyboard do what just with the livedisc?04:14
fyrmedicDoes anyone know of a usb wireless lan adaptor that will work with debian or kubuntu?04:14
familyDr_willis: thanks ... either its hanging on shutdown/restart or just taking an extra long time04:14
familyDr_willis: imho it should take less time to shut down than start up :P04:14
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familyDr_willis: the lil kubuntu image on shutdown keeps refreshing (screen flicks off then back on), but the bar doesn't seem to move04:15
aoeuidand without using the keyboard?04:15
aoeuid<_<04:15
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aoeuidI can't even connect to the net since I need the keyboard to type in the network key >_<04:16
bobindyI have an idea doc I'll be back later04:16
bobindythanks04:16
fyrmedicNo takers? How about a wireless networking card (pcmcia)?04:16
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BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: I have DWL-G650, uses madwifi04:18
Dr_willisfyrmedic,  it pays to use google.. and see what the various Linux laptop/desktop makers sell and suggest.04:18
fyrmedicDr_willis: yeah I know I have been working on that04:19
fyrmedicBonBonTheJon: thanx I'll look for that.04:19
fyrmedicBonBonTheJon: that's a card not usb right?04:20
BonBonTheJonfyrmedic: card04:20
fyrmedicBonBonTheJon; thanx04:20
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Zairek somethings wrong with apt..I edited the sources list and uncommented the necessary repos and now it says it can't lock the admin directory04:30
family!optimize04:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about optimize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:30
familydarn, I lost a good bookmark on how to optimize had prelink info04:31
Zaire!optomize04:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about optomize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:31
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eeanwhat is kdevelop called?04:35
eeanin apt land04:35
klerfayteean: kdevelop04:37
eeanerm04:37
eeanit doesn't appear to be in the default repos then?04:37
eeanI'm using edgy04:37
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klerfayteean: correct; universe04:38
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eeanok thanks04:40
Jucato!kdevelop04:40
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB04:41
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intelikeylogout segmentation fault !04:49
intelikeyi'm getting "system bootup in progress - please wait"  when i try to login  and  logout seg fault   if i logout04:52
intelikeyi ran /etc/rmnologin.sh    but it didn't change anything   any thoughts ?04:53
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intelikeyi rm'd /etc/nologin  but still can't login     ?04:59
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klerfaytwhat is correct way to create package request? email?05:01
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intelikeydid you look on the ubuntu home page ?05:02
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familywhere did they move inittab ?05:04
familyvi inittab gives me nada (nothing)05:04
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voker57Hi, why my Opera isn't working?05:05
intelikeyfamily unless you are in /etc  then vi inittab should yeld nada05:07
thill2708family: type "locate inittab"05:07
DekKeDI am trying to compile Kile (a Latex editor) and when I do configure I get this, I don't know what package I should get since I seem to have them all: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!05:07
thill2708DekKed: type "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"05:08
voker57Opera cannot connect to Internet. Dunno why, konqueror worx good05:08
familyintelikey thill2708 : edgy doesn't have inittab anymore05:08
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voker57Why can it be?05:09
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voker57hey05:10
DekKeDthill2708: "libqt3-mt is already the newest version."05:10
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intelikeyfamily you did not specify edgy.  but with any linux the inittab would be in /etc   that's all i was saying.   edgy uses upstart.  man upstart  for info.05:11
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familyintelikey: thanks05:11
intelikeynow if i can get this box so i can login again.....05:12
thill2708DekKed, why aren't you just apt-get installing kate?05:12
thill2708why compile?05:12
DekKeDthill2708: because I am using TexLive, and for eg. if I install Kile from the repos it gets TeTeX and removes TexLive05:14
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intelikeythill2708 kile != kate05:14
DekKeDKile is much better for latex editing than Kate05:14
sgorilla80anyone mess with bluetooth stuff in ubuntu?05:14
intelikeyDekKeD kile is in the repos too05:14
fribuntufamily: My edgy has an inittab.05:14
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DekKeDintelikey: look at what I just wrote :P it depends on Tetex, and it removes my Texlive05:15
fribuntuDekKeD: Well, use emaccs with auctex. Even better than Kile :)05:15
intelikeyDekKeD disreguard saw your post to late.05:15
DekKeDintelikey: that's why I want to compile05:15
DekKeD:P05:15
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DekKeDnever used Emacs before05:15
Omnifrogboo\05:15
robotgeekvim + latexsuite == love05:16
DekKeDvim?05:16
Dr_willisLatex Suit? You Pervert!05:16
Dr_willis:)05:16
robotgeekDr_willis: heh05:16
intelikeyvim = vim improved05:16
fribuntuDekKeD: Emacs + auctex is really nice for LaTeX05:16
robotgeekintelikey: as opposed to vi, improved?05:17
bobindyanyone know what this means? a zeroconf daemon (mdnsd is not running)05:17
fribuntuDekKeD: You should give it a try. Ctrl+C, Ctrl+C (twice) is the universal command for everything :)05:17
intelikeyrecursive acronym05:17
familyfribuntu: this fresh install of Kubuntu/edgy doesn't it uses /etc/event.d/tty*05:17
Dr_willismeans you dont have a zeroconf deamon. :)05:17
Dr_willisrunning.05:18
bobindyyes05:18
bobindyyes05:18
DekKeDfribuntu: downloading :P05:18
fribuntufamily: So?05:18
bobindyhow can I fix that05:18
fribuntuDekKeD: You most likely will have to customize emacs fonts before it looks any way decent. That can be some pain.05:19
DekKeDfribuntu: i hope there is some guide in the Ubuntu Forums05:19
fribuntuDekKeD: For Emacs?05:19
bobindydurn daemon05:20
bobindyI hope he burns in hades05:20
intelikeyand why can't i install man   apt-get install man  does a "Note, selecting man-db instead of man"    who did that ?05:20
fribuntuDekKeD: try http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/05:20
DekKeDfribuntu: yes, I'm on that site now05:21
bobindydarned my network to heck05:21
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bobindyanyone know how to get that daemon running again05:22
bobindyhe05:22
bobindyhea05:22
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Dr_willisbobindy, im not even sure what its used for.05:22
bobindydoes the zeroconf need some sort of command05:23
bobindyto enable05:23
bobindywhat is the zeroconf anyway05:23
Dr_willisbobindy,  what has you thinking you even need that?05:24
Dr_willislast i looked in to it. zeroconf was sort of a 'work in progress' and not needed by anything yet.05:24
DekKeDfribuntu: I have just installed emacs, no menus are created, any way of starting it if it's not from console?05:24
bobindybecause when I try to use network services I get a warning about it05:24
bobindydon't you use network services to enable the network05:25
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Dr_willisbobindy,   you got your machines pinging each other yet?05:25
intelikeyok somebody hold my hand a minute here.   i can su to users 1 2 & 3   but  su - user4   just sits idle for about 2 minutes and times out....  what is the deal ?     commands issued by root btw.05:25
bobindyI'm stuck05:25
bobindywhere I was before05:25
bobindyI switched out a network card05:26
bobindyand that didn't help05:26
Dr_willisbobindy,  im thinking zeroconf is not the thing to be worring about.. if you cant even ping each machine/get an ip for each of them..  ypu got some deeper issues05:26
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bobindylet me try it in window and make sure everything is right05:27
bobindyboth machines are dual boot05:27
bobindybrb05:27
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intelikeyalso getting { Unable to cd to "/home/name" }    but ls -l shows   drwx------ 22 name, root....   i don't understand what i'm not seeing  ???05:31
intelikey login: name05:32
intelikeyUnable to cd to "/usr/local/src"05:32
intelikey login:05:32
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Dr_willishuh05:33
Dr_willisyou made a user with the name of 'name' ?05:33
intelikeyerr call that Unable to cd to "/home/name"    so you can understand it.05:33
Dr_willisok :) lol05:33
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Dr_williswhy would it cd to /usr/local/src05:34
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Dr_willischeck the passwd file for a start? my entry for me is..05:34
Dr_williswillis:x:1000:1000:willis,,,:/home/willis:/bin/bash05:34
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intelikeyDr_willis yes i have made a user with the name name and the passwd passwd    but not this one.05:34
intelikeyDr_willis the passwd file has correct info   and it coresponds to the error messages.05:35
Dr_willisi was wondering if there was a special service called name..   :)05:35
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intelikeywouldn't matter if there was.  that's not the actual info.05:35
Dr_willismy home dir has the following permissions05:36
Dr_willisdrwxr-xr-x 59 willis willis  4096 2006-11-24 23:10 willis05:36
intelikeymine is drwxr-------05:36
Dr_willismine is owned by willis willis also.. Hmm05:36
intelikeymine by name root05:36
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intelikeymine by $name root    <--- if that helps.05:37
Dr_willisYea.. not sure why that would be that way.05:37
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fribuntuDekKeD: There should be a menu entry in "Development"05:37
intelikeyprimary group is root.05:37
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Dr_willisHmm..  I dont mess with groups much at all. but in /etc/group i got a  group for  each user.05:38
Dr_williswillis:x:1000:05:39
Dr_willispeggy:x:100105:39
DekKeDfribuntu: I don't have that menu05:39
intelikeyi don't.    but that's not the problem.05:39
Dr_willisOk. Mr smarty pants.. what is the problem then.. :P i got totally sidetracked...05:39
Dr_willisheh heh05:39
intelikeyin fact i don't have a group for any user.   primary user is in group root     all others are in group users05:40
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fribuntuDekKeD: It was created for me automagically when I installed Emacs.05:40
fribuntuDekKeD: However, you can add it manually, if you want it :)05:41
intelikeyDr_willis i copied things from a backup disk and somehow it hosed that one account.  i've rebuilt it but it still can't login.05:41
fribuntuDekKeD: Which flavour of Emacs did you install by the way?05:41
Dr_willisintelikey,  now thats.. odd.05:41
fribuntuDekKeD: This is true only for Emacs without X up front in the name. XEmacs might be different.05:42
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DekKeDfribuntu: I got "emacs" package from repos05:44
intelikeyif it was something simple i would not have mentioned it.   if it was something really really simple i may have overlooked it....05:44
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Dr_willisheh - the users .bashrc isent all weird?05:44
parker`firefox vs. konqueror as a web browser, any opinions on the matter? I've noticed certain situations where firefox will crash where konqueror will handle the errors better and won't crash05:44
fribuntuDekKeD: Well, can you start it by shell?05:45
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fribuntuparker`: Well, konqueror does not display some pages correctly that firefox runs fine.05:45
Dr_willisOnly time ive seen firefox crash is  due to flash issues.05:45
fribuntuparker`: And konqueror is even more bloated than FF 2.005:46
parker`fribuntu: any examples off the top of your head? just want to check it out05:46
intelikeyDr_willis it may be in the ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile i'm looking now.05:46
fribuntuparker`: Sure. Try http://nwn.bioware.com/ and check out the menues on the left ...05:46
DekKeDfribuntu: yes, thats really a minor problem :P05:47
parker`fribuntu: ah, the menus will not pop up, hm05:47
parker`anyone know why aimfight.com crashes on ubuntu?05:48
parker`does it require flash 8 or something?05:48
fribuntuparker`: And I have no idea why. It is rather annoying though.05:48
intelikeyDr_willis nothing in either that should cause any trubble.   .bashrc has 5 aliases and one function   .profile has one line   . /etc/profile    that's not a problem.05:48
fribuntuparker`: No, i have no flash installed. It is not a flash site.05:48
fribuntuparker`: Some javascript issue.05:48
linuxbombthe menus work fine here05:48
parker`fribuntu: I meant aimfight.com05:48
fribuntulinuxbomb: Using what browser?05:48
linuxbombff05:49
parker`lol05:49
parker`they work on FF, they don't work on konqueror is what we're saying05:49
fribuntulinuxbomb: Yeah, that is no problem. We are talking about konqueror not being able to handle them.05:49
fribuntuparker`: I have come accross some more sites like that. But I cannot remember their URLs05:50
linuxbomb firefox vs. konqueror as a web browser, any opinions on the matter? I've noticed certain situations where firefox will crash where konqueror will handle the errors better and won't crash05:50
parker`? that's my message lol05:50
intelikeyDr_willis this gets wierder yet... i chowned it to root so the user couldn't access his home and i can su to the user     chown it back and su just hangs then times out....05:50
DekKeDlinuxbomb: my vote goes for Opera :P05:50
linuxbombparker whats so funny05:50
linuxbombmozilla suite05:51
intelikeynot actually hung,  just times out.05:51
parker`just wondering why you copy and pasted my message, were you just re-asking?05:51
fribuntuDekKeD: Naw, even more bloated than FF and Konqueror combined.05:51
DekKeDbloated? it rox05:51
DekKeDbest browser experience05:51
fribuntuparker`: Well, both browsers handle that site well ... let me start a game on both.05:51
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parker`fribuntu: aimfight.com works for you?? it crashes instantly for me05:52
parker`fribuntu: on FF, konqueror doesn't crash, but it won't load the game either05:52
fribuntuparker`: Works fine here05:52
parker`fribuntu: what version of flash player you running? 7 or 8?05:52
parker`is 8 even out for linux?05:52
fribuntuparker`: 905:53
fribuntuparker`: the beta05:53
parker`fribuntu: how would I go about aprehending that?05:53
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fribuntuparker`: Hang on ...05:53
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Dr_willisaimfight.com works for me.05:54
parker`Dr_willis: which flash player?05:54
Dr_willis9 i think05:54
Dr_willis:)05:54
Dr_willistheres flash at the site?05:54
parker`yeah, that must be my problem, I'm running 705:54
fribuntuparker`: Sorry, I have flashplayer 7 installed. Package is "flashplugin-nonfree"05:54
parker`fribuntu: hmm I have flash 7, too, but it crashes every time I try to load it.05:55
Dr_willisguess that intro anime is flash.. how.. uesless.05:55
fribuntuparker`: But you can get 9 at Adobe directly.05:55
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parker`I know it uses flash because I had to install flash to view the site05:55
billytwowillyso if I had a request for the next release where would I send that? well, not a request, just the default is stupid in akregator.. archives all articles... hella slow with feeds that get lots of articles..05:55
fribuntuparker`: Well, anything with "aim" in it is poop.05:56
fribuntuparker`: Even that silly game :)05:56
fribuntuparker`: Don't install flash just for that site.05:56
parker`fribuntu: yeah, I know, but it still bugs me that my browser is crashing for *any* site05:57
fribuntufribuntu: Which plugin did you install? The "nonfree" one?05:57
fribuntuaha05:57
fribuntuI am getting tired05:57
fribuntutalking to myself again :)05:57
fribuntuI meant parker` of course.05:57
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parker`fribuntu: I had to accept a license to install, so I'm pretty sure that's nonfree05:58
intelikeyi don't get it.   su user   just sits there until it times out     chown 0:0 -R /users/home     and  su user  badabing it works but i cant access my home....05:58
fribuntuparker`: they are both non-free. But just one mentions it in the name, I think.05:59
parker`fribuntu: I come from Gentoo so I am new to apt... I am typing apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but it's not finding it05:59
Dr_willis!flash05:59
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:59
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Dr_willis!find flash06:00
ubotuFound: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 6 others)06:00
Dr_willisi forget how i installed it..06:00
parker`I <3 portage, apt is weird to me right now06:01
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Dr_willisI perfer apt :)06:02
parker`ubuntu is much better for my laptop though, gentoo takes way too much damn time to setup twice lol06:02
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Dr_willis*buntu does great on my laptop as well06:02
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parker`plus built-in wireless drivers06:03
parker`big plus06:03
parker`is there a way to hack kubuntu to allow su?06:03
Dr_willistheres no 'hacking' needed06:03
Dr_willisroot user just dosent have a password.06:03
klerfaytone thing I do not like is that new power management in edgy doesn't allow to limit cpu freq06:04
Dr_willisso set one. :)06:04
parker`ah okay06:04
parker`ahh perfect06:04
Dr_willisits like a "linux profiecny' test.. :P see if you can figure out how to do it. then you can...06:04
parker`why didn't I think of that? :D06:04
fribuntuparker`: you probably need to add the right repository to your /etc/apt/sources-list06:04
intelikeywell i'll be a god knoted rascal06:04
intelikeyDr_willis i found it06:05
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intelikeyit was the  . /etc/profile  line in  ~/.profile      cause /etc/profile had . ~/.profile   in it.....   loop06:05
parker`bah, ubuntu doesn't have any mirrors at my school like gentoo does!06:06
parker`I'm sure the guide covers all the repos and stuff right?06:06
intelikeyso i rm'd 2g of files for naught.06:06
intelikeyoh well.06:07
parker`anyone know how ksh differs from bash?06:07
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Dr_willisintelikey,  heh - i was THINKING that earlier... but dident say anything. :)06:07
Jaseyhello there. is the latest konsole package in edgy broken? it crashes before it even starts up, on my pc o_o06:08
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Dr_willisi dident even think .profile was used much any more06:08
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Dr_willisJasey,  ive seen no issues with it.06:11
Jaseyim stuck using xterm for now06:12
Dr_willisbut i do recall someone e4lse in here today with some sort of konsole crashing issues.. but he had so many 'other'  repos added.. not sure what caused the problem.06:12
Jaseyoh. well the only other repo i have is a bleeding edge edgy repo for wine =\06:13
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klerfaytJasey: reinstall konsole06:14
Jaseyive tried06:14
Jaseythats the first thing i do =\06:15
Jaseyim going to force konsole back to an older version for now06:15
klerfaytJasey: I had trouble with transparent color schemes now they work06:15
Jaseyi dont use transparent colour schemes lol06:15
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klerfaytJasey: maybe it is config file?06:15
Jaseydoubt it. it was working fine, then i did a dist-upgrade with apt-get, and voila it isnt working06:15
klerfaytJasey: look into ~/.xsession-errors06:16
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Jaseynah i just found what was wrong06:16
bobindydr will06:16
bobindyone more question06:16
Jaseylooks like some one added some repos to my sources list on apt. which is typical. lol.06:16
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bobindyis there a place where all the hardware is listed06:18
bobindylike the control panel in windows06:18
linuxbombbobindy: hwbrowser06:18
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bobindyhwbrowser06:18
bobindyin system settings06:18
bobindy?06:19
linuxbombnevermind they must have gotten rid of hwbrowser06:19
bobindyoh06:19
linuxbombkinfocenter06:19
bobindywhere is that06:19
linuxbombsystem06:19
klerfaytbobindy: open konsole and ryn lshw06:20
klerfayt*run06:20
bobindyok06:21
klerfayt*no - type in and hit enter06:21
klerfayt:D06:21
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guptaserver-install with normal dapper cd possible?06:21
guptaby server install I mean the stripped-down install that cuold be done with earlier ubuntu's from the command line06:22
Jucatono. you need to use the Alternate Install CD06:23
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bobindyyes it is there06:23
bobindyproduct: 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controlle06:23
bobindythanks06:23
klerfaytbobindy: some info about your hardware is in "kinfocenter" found in kmenu06:23
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bobindythanks again06:25
bobindyyes it is there as well06:25
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bobindyI see samba status there as well06:27
bobindycan I set up samba from there06:27
klerfayt!s06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
klerfayt!samba06:27
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT06:27
bobindyyes I know06:27
klerfayt!hardware06:27
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:27
bobindya separate issue06:28
bobindybut another thing I want to solve06:28
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bobindyI have a dual boot machine06:28
klerfayt!dualboot06:28
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)06:28
bobindyand would like to access the windows side06:28
bobindydark side06:28
klerfayt!grub06:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:28
notechgeez, give him a chance to state what his issue is06:29
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bobindydoes this look right?configuration: broadcast=yes driver=e100 ip=192.168.0.1 multicast06:32
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ineedehelpok, back to my installing of the kde enviroment on ubuntu06:33
ineedehelp^_^06:33
bobindyjust to be sure what is the procedure when I am trying to access the other computers on my network06:33
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klerfaytbobindy you could also try #ubuntu channel if you can't get answers to your technical questions06:36
bobindyI might go over there but how do you access your network06:37
klerfaytno idea06:38
klerfayt!network06:38
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:38
klerfayt!windows06:38
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents06:38
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bobindyubotu who was that directed at06:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about who was that directed at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:39
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bobindyreally a simple question06:40
bobindybut ok thanks for your help06:40
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bobindywell so I guess I'll go06:45
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bobindythank as least I know my ethernet card is recognized06:45
bobindythat is a plus06:46
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ineedehelp!microsoft06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
klerfayt!vole06:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:48
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jackrazzanyone here using kexi with postgresql?06:56
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Brydenn33anyone up07:04
Brydenn33i need some help not really regarding kubuntu07:04
pipHello07:04
Brydenn33hi pip07:04
piphow to edit locale07:04
Brydenn33what?07:04
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pipI want to add support for my native language07:04
pipBrydenn33: Hi,do you know how to edit locale ?07:05
robotgeekpip: K-Menu -> System Settings -> Regions and accessibility, maybe?07:05
Brydenn33i dont knw07:05
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piprobotgeek: ok,let me see07:06
Brydenn33robotgeek07:07
Brydenn33are you in the USA?07:07
robotgeekBrydenn33: why do you ask?07:07
robotgeekyes, though07:07
Brydenn33i need some help reporting some cyber criminal activity and dont know how07:07
Brydenn33didnt really know who to go to hehe07:07
Brydenn33i'd like to email the school that's UN-knowingly hosting the site07:08
Brydenn33i got an email from PayPal07:08
robotgeekBrydenn33: i don't know, call up their ISP maybe?07:08
Brydenn33but it wasnt from paypal07:08
Brydenn33how?07:08
Brydenn33naw dude07:08
Brydenn33its a FISHING site07:08
Brydenn33a fake PayPal07:08
piprestart x07:08
Brydenn33and its being hosted on an .edu07:08
Brydenn33it's really gay07:09
Brydenn33anyway, i guess i'll try doing some research07:09
Brydenn33bbl guys07:09
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sevenare all multiverse packages non-free?07:18
Jucatoseven: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components07:19
Jucatoscroll down to the bottom about multiverse07:20
seventhanks07:20
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notechBrydenn33: you give the information to paypal and let them handle it07:33
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notechBrydenn33: If you think you have received a fraudulent email, forward the entire email to spoof AT paypal.com and then delete it from your email account.07:39
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logan1why is there a nvidia packaage for kernel 2.6.17-11 but not matching kernel, All I can find is 2.6.17-1007:50
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smoenuxdoes anyone know of a good Screencast program that will work on top of XGL ?07:59
smoenux!screencast07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screencast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:59
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renatowhat's a screencast?07:59
renato...and who gets called back?08:00
renatosorry, lousy joke08:00
renatoI'm sleepy08:00
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smoenuxlol08:04
smoenuxscreencasts is when you record what you do on the desktop08:05
cpt|willardsmoenux: you on ati?08:05
smoenuxtutorial and/or demo vids are examples of screencasts08:05
smoenuxnvidia08:05
cpt|willardwhy don't you just get the latest nvidia drivers?08:05
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smoenux???08:06
smoenuxI think you may have misunderstood my earlier question08:06
cpt|willardyah...08:06
smoenux:P08:06
cpt|willardwhy are you running xgl?08:06
smoenuxbecause it's nice ^.^08:07
smoenuxand I must say that I enjoy the application switching08:07
smoenuxI find it nice and fast08:07
cpt|willardHeh..if it didn't run X and Xgl i'd use it still..but i'm using latest nvidia drviers and beryl08:07
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smoenuxme too08:08
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smoenuxapparently they are working on having aiglx as standard in feisty08:08
smoenuxwill automatically install if you're pc supports it08:09
cpt|willardyah, and binary drivers as standard :-/08:09
smoenuxyeah.... but personally I feel there is no easy way around that08:09
cpt|willardwith nvidia it appears it may happen soonish but ati not much in sight08:10
cpt|willardan open source solution that is08:10
smoenuxyeah... ati support is crap....08:10
smoenuxeven when i had a windows box, with a ati card.... had soooo much problems08:10
smoenuxthen I got a Nvidia, and all my problems are solved08:11
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cpt|willardyah nvidia is pretty nice gotta love intel though08:11
smoenuxreally ?08:11
smoenuxnever had a intel card08:12
cpt|willardthey aren't really that good..but for a laptop it's all you really need :P08:12
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smoenuxah I see08:12
cpt|willardopen drivers and easy setup for beryl08:13
smoenuxI'm a designer and video editor, so, I do need something with a bit more punch... especially for 3d rendering and animation08:13
cpt|willardah, makes sense08:14
smoenuxwith microsoft acknowledging the threat of linux, and trying to fight back, this might just give Adobe some inspiration to start making programs for Linux ^.^08:14
smoenuxor so I hope :P08:14
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cpt|willardwell flash 9 is beta 2 for linux :D08:15
smoenuxooh08:15
smoenuxI didn't know that08:15
smoenuxtime to go check it out !!08:16
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cpt|willardyah :D google penguin.swf one of the devs blogs08:16
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smoenuxhehe... downloading the installer now :)08:18
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cpt|willardsmoenux: installer? i've just been downloading the beta of the plugin08:22
smoenuxlmao... yeah... I just noticed... lol08:23
smoenuxthat's what happens if ur too hasty :P08:23
cpt|willardhaha08:23
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phillijwim trying to get ndiswrapper installed using the Wiki and it wont let me install it because it has unmet dependencies and crap. This is a fresh install of dapper, why the hell would it be giivng me problems like this?08:27
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smoenuxphillijw, have you checked the forums?08:31
robotgeekrather, have you check the wiki08:31
smoenuxlol08:31
robotgeekphillijw: which card is this?08:32
Linux_Galoreok I have the nvidia legacy driver loading (installed the legacy package) and Ive install the glx-nvidia-legacy package,  added Load "glx" to xorg.conf  but xorg can load glx libs08:32
phillijwbcm43xx ... i was talking to you about it last night :)08:32
phillijwive decided to try ndiswrapper because the regular driver is a piece of crap it seems08:32
Linux_Galores/can/cant08:32
robotgeekphillijw: i tht you would have thrown that laptop out of the window my now :)08:32
smoenuxok... bye guys... I g2run08:32
robotgeekby now, err.08:32
Linux_Galoreanyone had problem getting glx working with nvidia in edgy08:33
phillijwi would like to08:33
Linux_GaloreI read half a dozen howto's and nothing works08:33
robotgeekphillijw: hmm, paste output somewhere please08:33
Linux_Galorealso some of the howto's seem to be a great way to stuff up your install08:34
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Linux_GaloreUbuntu will now be the first distro that I have never been able to get glx working on "every, even openbsd was easier08:35
Linux_Galores/every"ever/08:36
Linux_Galores/every/ever/08:36
phillijwhttp://pastebin.ca/25740108:37
Linux_Galoreooh yeah follow the howto, one small problem if you follow them apt goes and swaps all your kernel settings and install stuff that doesn work with each other08:37
phillijwbattery is running out. type fast =D08:37
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Linux_Galoreso after a bit of hacking in vim I have got Kubuntu now to the stage it runs nvidia but wont run glxgears because well the official glx package doesnt work08:38
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phillijwdont you jus thate linux?08:39
robotgeekphillijw: i think there might be a possiblity that your mirrors are outdated. (you are on edgy?)08:40
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phillijwi'm on dapper08:41
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robotgeekphillijw: weird. this is a clean install, right?08:42
phillijwnearly08:42
robotgeekphillijw: try installing python-glade2 manually08:42
phillijwhavent really installed anything as far as I know08:42
phillijwit says that package is not available08:43
pipwhy can't my ark extract gz file ?08:43
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phillijwrobot, i think i may hav ejust found a problem08:44
phillijwin my sources.list the only sources that are uncommented are the universe multiverse08:44
robotgeekphillijw: please highlight my full name,08:44
phillijwthe dapper main restricted ones say "Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify"08:44
phillijwdoes that seem like it would be the cluprit?08:45
pipwhy my ark can't extract .gz file?08:45
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robotgeekphillijw: http://pastebin.ca/257405 is mine08:46
robotgeekpip: it should be able to, try it in cli08:46
robotgeekpip: is it tar.gz?08:47
piprobotgeek: No,I just downloaded a tar.gz file08:47
robotgeekpip: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz08:47
pipyea,it is08:47
pipwhy ark can't do that ?08:47
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pipgzip: stdin: not in gzip format08:48
Schalkenis it possible to connect to multiple proxy servers simultaneously?08:48
piprobotgeek: bug ?08:49
notechpip: file foo.tar.gz08:49
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pipMplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive08:49
robotgeekpip: try gunzip MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz:08:51
notechnot sure, i'm not on kubuntu and mine gives a different response08:51
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pipgunzip: MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz: not in gzip format08:51
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robotgeekpip: where did you download this file from? link please08:52
phillijwndiswrapper still doesnt show up in the availble packages ugh08:53
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notechdid you update it too? when you edit sources.list you need to update it08:54
phillijwya i did08:55
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piprobotgeek: it is not fault of the site,when I use redhat ,I can extract it08:56
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piprobotgeek: http://www.fastdump.net/1636608:56
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phillijwbcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present08:58
phillijwso far so good it seems08:58
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piprobotgeek: can you extract it ?09:00
robotgeekpip: second09:02
pip: )09:02
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robotgeekpip: no, there seems to be an issue with the file, it does not open :)09:03
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pipOK,so strange, I can open it yesterday on redhat09:04
robotgeekpip: tar -xf works, though09:04
piphaha~~09:05
robotgeekpip: rename file to MplayerAMRsupport.tar and extract with ark09:05
pipI see09:05
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notechoh, guess it did say tar archive for him.09:06
piprobotgeek: do you use mplayer ?09:06
robotgeekpip: nope, just kaffeine09:06
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piprobotgeek: how to open real format ?09:07
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Healot!win32codecs09:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:11
robotgeekpip: you need to install w32codecs09:11
robotgeek!restricted > pip09:11
sevenanyone how can i make keybord shortcuts like send a text to an open window if done that before but i cant find it anymore    the text has to look something like that    Shift+F:a:c:k:i:n:g:Space:a:n:d:09:12
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Schalkenwhen i turn on proxy in kcontrol do i need to restart the interface for it to take effect?09:15
piprobotgeek: thanks09:15
unix_infideljust restarting networking should suffice09:15
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phillijwgah! iwlist eth1 scan doesnt want to work09:15
phillijwwhen using ndiswrapper. this saddens me09:15
unix_infidelphillijw: what errors are you getting?09:16
phillijwnone that i know of09:16
phillijwit just doenst find any networks09:16
unix_infidelodd.09:16
phillijwthis laptop is useless to me without wireless09:18
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unix_infidelphillijw: you should get errors if its not giving you a wireless itnerface.09:19
unix_infidelyou probably set up ndiswrapper wrong.09:19
phillijwndiswrapper gives me eth109:19
unix_infideldo dmesg | grep ndiswrapper and put in pastebin.09:19
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phillijwdmesg looks fine09:20
phillijwsays it is loaded and stuff09:20
phillijwhmm.. werid09:20
phillijw[17184731.452000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:90:4b:63:61:8f using driver bcmwl5a, 14E4:4324.5.conf09:20
phillijwit says wlan0 there but ends up coming up as eth1 for some reason09:21
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sevengot it its in the kcontrol but only if i start it from the console its not in the system settings ????09:23
edgyHi, I just made a fresh installation from kubunt dvd and I noticed that the dvd is not added automatically in /etc/apt/sources.lst and I had to do manually sudo apt-g09:24
edgysudo apt-cdrom add09:24
edgythis is beyond normal joe normal knowledge so is there a better way to do this without refering back to the command line?09:25
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Healotuse adept to add the CD-ROM repos09:25
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edgyHealot: what shall I put on the adept repository text box? deb cdrom or what?09:30
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Healotdeb cdrom it is09:31
Healotyou should look at Adept manual first... since you're GUI lovey lovey :)09:32
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pipI need gtk devel package,what should i install ,the name of packages please !09:40
piplibgtk2?09:41
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klerfaytpip: search for libgtk dev09:46
klerfaytpip: maybe all packages with "libgtk" in it09:46
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pipOK,I see it now09:48
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LynoureSome time back I went for the new backport version of knetworkmanager, but it did not work for me so I went back to dapper default version. However, now knetworkmanager no longer notices networks appearing or disappearing. Is there something that can be done about this?09:49
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pipwhich package contains libtoolize ?09:54
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klerfaytpip: maybe libtool?10:00
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voker57hi10:13
voker57Help! My opera cannot connect!10:13
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wizardvoker57: use firefox then10:14
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voker57thanks. But i want Opera :)10:15
voker57but anyway gotta give it a try...10:15
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n3stormmorning10:16
voker57hi10:17
wizardvoker57: im kidding, i am sure theres an easy fix for it10:17
voker57i hope10:17
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DankerHi10:18
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DankerHow do i create virtual desktop for one application?10:19
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Ace2016HI all10:25
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Ace2016how do i search for all the files which have "search term here" within them10:26
Ace2016not the file name but inside them10:26
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Ace2016found it, konqueror can do it with search10:32
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trench-hello everyone10:36
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d03boyall zero of us10:37
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trench-got a fresh kubuntu install...6.10...and i'm missing a few key apps for kde...kcontrol won't load for one10:37
kkrustyHi, im getting this when i ./configure a program10:37
kkrustychecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!10:37
trench-also looking for the Superuser mode on kde as well10:37
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guidentrench: im not a pro but try adding the "settings" applet on your panel10:38
Synapsiis there anybody that can give me some installation infomration?10:38
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zerak!tv10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
Synapsisomething like:is that possible to install over a ntfs partition?10:39
zerak!tv tuner10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tv tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
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kkrustyhow can i know whether a package is installed or not?10:39
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Synapsiis this chat only a question chat with "no answers"?10:40
trench-hehehehe10:40
trench-guess all the gurus are asleep10:40
defryskSynapsi, a chat with volunteers trying to help others10:40
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defryskif you get no answer, noone here has it10:40
Synapsiyeah, I supposes this, but....how can I know who are the volonteers to ask to???10:40
Synapsi[10:43]  <defrysk> if you get no answer, noone here has it10:41
LynoureSynapsi: you cannot install on a ntfs, ntfs writing support is still in beta10:41
Synapsigot it10:41
Synapsiehehe...cool to know...10:41
defryskyes10:41
Synapsiis that a beta I can try?10:41
defryskand anoy volunteers you wil never get an answer10:41
defryskso show repect and patience please10:41
Synapsino problem...10:41
Synapsii love you10:41
Synapsiguys10:41
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Synapsithe fact is that I saw many questions and no reply and I wanted to undestand if this was a fake....a iguess it's not10:42
LynoureSynapsi: yes, you can try ntfs writing if you wish10:42
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dissidentcitizenhey guys, any idea when the newest katapult is being backported to edgy? I miss typing into Amarok....10:42
kkrustycan anyone tell me how i can know whether a package is installed or not?10:42
Synapsi[10:45]  <Lynoure> Synapsi: yes, you can try ntfs writing if you wish10:43
Synapsithanks...I'll look tor that10:43
trench-kkrusty, Adept Manager10:43
Lynoure!fuse | Synapsi10:43
ubotuSynapsi: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse10:43
voicu!ftp10:43
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd10:43
voicu!smtp10:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:43
voicuwhat?10:44
Lynourevoicu: what do you want to know about smtp? It's a wide topic10:44
voicusetting up a simple and secure smtp server10:44
voiculast time i did that on windows i relayed like a million spam msgs10:45
xsachahey anyone here know how bots will report pastebinning from upstream? like you have to type the irc channel? or..10:45
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kkrustyim having problems with Qt- configuring an app gives me: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!10:45
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voicubtw, can i receive mail on the smtp server or do i need another program? i.e. smtp is just for sending?10:46
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spurgeonhey guys.... > why isn there reiser-support on ubuntu ?10:48
Synapsithanks to everybody for soppurt...new frontiers in my mind10:49
Synapsic ya all10:49
zerakanyone who have configured a hybrid tv tuner of the type hvr?10:49
nukukkrusty: you probably need to install libqt3-headers10:50
spurgeonLinux phoenix 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:50
trench-sounds like a libtool issue10:50
spurgeon:P10:51
kkrustynuku: i have libqt3-headers installed10:51
spurgeonI like Kubuntu, but i hate Ext3. its much too slow...10:51
xsachame too spurgeon, i chose reiser at install instead10:51
voker57I have problems with accessing Internet from Konsole and Opera!10:51
trench-between ext3 and reiserfs, i highly doubt the speed difference is significant10:52
voker57Everything else worx good10:52
spurgeonbut i cant choose reiser :S10:52
xsachaspurgeon: just make a reiser partition, then choose it at install10:52
spurgeontrench-: > if you have disk space above 200G available, you will know the difference10:53
trench-well then...format it to fs of choice before starting install10:53
trench-easy enough10:53
spurgeonxsacha: is there standard reisersupport for standard kernel ?10:53
piphow to open .chm file ?10:53
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xsachaspurgeon: the kernel already has reiser support10:54
trench-you can use a gparted livecd10:54
xsachajust make the partition, choose it when you install10:55
spurgeoni did this trick ( workaround ) on debian but i had to compile a new kernel, because it stalled at boottime because of the lack of reisersupport in the kernel10:55
xsachawell this one has reiser :)10:56
spurgeonok....10:56
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nukupip: there is kchmviewer and xchm you might want to install one of those...10:56
spurgeonWell, this is the first time i installed kubuntu and i must say, nice work. ( i started off about 6 years ago with slackware )10:57
spurgeoni am probably going to install -> / at ext3 and /usr at reiser then10:58
pipthanks10:59
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guidenhow do I get the default theme that kubuntu came with back?11:03
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kevingood morning11:08
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kevincan someone help me with a shutdown problem?11:09
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pipWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running11:10
pipkernel?11:10
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MorrisseyIs BERYL on KDE known to be very slow? Not the 3d effects (Theyr actually fast), but normal web browsing, etc etc?11:16
MorrisseyDoes it help upgrading ram? Have 2x256 now11:16
trench-Morrissey, i would attribute that more to your vidcard capability11:17
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pipthere are many kernel hearders available,which one to install ?11:22
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mslMorrissey: more RAM always helps11:23
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Schalken!lamp11:28
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.11:28
Morrisseytrench-, what do you mean? Its a laptop with ATI radeon 9000 in it. all the 3d effects is very sharp :) Benchmark show me that I have over 200 frames/sec11:28
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trench-Morrissey, ati has well known shortcomings as far as driver issues11:29
trench-when it comes to linux distros11:29
trench-most beryl users can attest to that11:30
trench-hopefully yours won't be so...but ati had been behind on driver dev11:30
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Morrisseytrench-, I know, but I made it work :)11:31
trench-i actually took my alienware laptop back for my ati be swapped for a Go780011:31
Morrisseyreally11:31
Morrisseyso youc an switch graphics card?11:32
trench-yea...it was just too troublesome.11:32
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trench-since it was mainly a linux pc11:32
MorrisseyI just have to be sure :)  http://h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/pdf/c00573300.pdf TO THIS http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=306537 .... is that correct?11:32
trench-nvidia drivers had been more mature11:32
trench-yes..that's fine11:33
Morrisseytrench-, I got the latest open source drivers for fglrx, and 3d is really fast11:33
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Morrisseythanks trench- :)11:33
trench-Morrissey, and that's beryl-svn, right?11:33
trench-then you're good to go11:33
Morrisseytrench-, nah, beryl out of the beryl-repos11:33
xsacha"latest open source drivers for fglrx" huh?? lol11:33
trench-try to give the different beryl startup options a try11:33
krautmoin11:33
Morrisseyxsacha, yes?11:33
xsachafglrx are closed source11:34
Morrisseytrench-, like?11:34
Morrisseyxsacha, nah, you got them for open source as well :) Google em, youll see11:34
trench-like use-copy, use-cow, etc11:34
Morrisseytrench-, oh, I start it with beryl-xgl11:35
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xsachaMorrissey: you mean radeon open source driver? (not fglrx)11:35
Morrisseywhat is cow, and what is copy? :)11:35
trench-i meant to day, look at your beryl-manager options11:35
Morrisseyxsacha, ya, of course, sorry11:35
trench-you'll see it there11:35
xsachacomposite overlay window and copy method (non-tfp)11:35
MorrisseyI dont have beryl-manager :) That11:36
trench-of course you do11:36
MorrisseyI have to use beryl-xgl, and start emerald after that .. settings I change with beryl-settings :)11:36
xsachaberyl-xgl? you're using Xgl?11:36
Morrisseyxsacha, obiously11:36
trench-type beryl-manager in console when things are started up11:36
xsachaso you're using closed source fglrx..11:36
Morrisseytrench-, if I type that X hangs11:37
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trench-weird...11:37
Morrisseyxsacha, my xorg.conf says radeon11:37
xsachayou're using radeon in Xgl ?!?!11:37
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Morrisseytrench-, used about a week to figure all this out :) Its strange11:37
xsachawhat has this world come to11:37
Morrisseyxsacha, I dont have a XGL session I think .. I just log in normally, and start beryl-xgl, and it works11:37
MetaBookfoziShy all! please help me my konsole won't start. [Kubuntu edgy on k7] 11:37
trench-Morrissey, have you tried aiglx with your opensource driver?11:38
MetaBookfoziSit starts and closes fast and shows kcrash window.11:38
Morrisseytrench-, dont know, whats that?11:38
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trench-alternative to XGL11:38
MetaBookfoziSplease help, it's really annoying11:38
xsachaMorrissey: you shouldnt be using Xgl :S11:38
trench-seems to work better with opensource radeon11:38
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, try opening it with xterm and see if it outprints an error11:38
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Morrisseyxsacha, ok :) Do I use xgl? hehe11:38
xsachause aiglx11:38
Morrisseyhow do I switch to aiglx? Never understood what to do different11:39
MetaBookfoziSnothing, it only says:KCrash: Application 'konsole' crashing...11:39
xsachajust start up a normal X session instead of an Xgl session Morrissey11:39
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, cat /var/log/syslog and see if it shows an error there11:39
trench-i got an old laptop with a radeon IGP/aiglx...works nicely for a slow machine11:39
MetaBookfoziSMorrissey > i have isntalled debugging symbosl, so i can pastebin the error log, if it tells something to you...11:39
MetaBookfoziSok11:39
xsachado you have Xorg >= 7.1?11:39
spurgeonhey xsacha : when installing without using graphical installer > using costum partitioning it gives me the option to use reiser :P nice....11:39
xsachaspurgeon: yes :) of course11:39
Morrisseyxsacha, ecacly what I do, I start a normal X session .. I have xorg>7,1 .. and I type beryl-xgl, and it works 200 frames pr sec11:40
xsachaspurgeon: the only problem is that particular software used for the GUI does not support reiser11:40
MetaBookfoziSMorrissey > nothing11:40
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MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, yes, you can paste the debug info on pastebin then :) Lets have alook11:40
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Morrisseyxsacha, was that strange? :)11:40
pipwhere is the C hearder files for the running kernel ?11:40
trench-in the meantime, you can install yakuake while you're fixing konsole :)11:41
xsachaMorrissey: dont use an Xgl session, use a normal X session and enable composite.. then you'll be running with aiglx instead11:41
MetaBookfoziSMorrissey > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33884/11:41
Morrisseyxsacha, believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING, this is the only way to get beryl on my laptop :) hehe11:41
xsachai mean you can stick with Xgl -- if you want -- but it is very buggy for me atleast11:41
Morrisseyxsacha, thats what I do ... i have composite enabled, and I use a normal X session :=11:41
trench-well apparently you haven't tried aiglx :)11:41
xsachaMorrissey: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AIGLX              (last line says what?_11:42
Morrisseytrench-, but my X session isnt XGL either .. so what is it? :)11:42
xsachait's just Xorg11:42
Morrissey(II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so11:42
Morrissey:)11:42
xsachaok good you're using aiglx, not xgl11:42
trench-aha..11:42
xsachamy guess is you've done the display numbers wrong11:42
Morrisseyto sec MetaBookfoziS11:42
xsachaMorrissey: echo $DISPLAY11:42
trench-good then11:42
MetaBookfoziSokay11:42
Morrisseyxsacha, :011:43
pipwhere is the C hearder files for the running kernel ?11:43
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Morrisseyand yes MetaBookfoziS, use yakuake :) Its great11:43
MetaBookfoziSwhat is that?11:43
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xsachaMorrissey: for some reason i think you put X on :1 following from what you have to do for Xgl11:43
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trench-same as konsole11:43
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, I would either use yakuake (recomended) or do a fonts reconfigure (sometimes fuck fonts up)11:43
xsachaa common mistake.. in the session it should be started on :0, then normal beryl will work fine and you dont have to use beryl-xgl11:44
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, it looks like it gives a font error11:44
MetaBookfoziSok i try, but i think i have messed up something with notebook crash (i plugged off the ac adapter without battery:/)11:44
MetaBookfoziSso dpkg-reconfigre what?11:44
Morrisseyxsacha, ok, but I dont need to change anything? Or should I? I mean, everything works allright :) Just that standard browsing is quite slow and some other things11:44
MetaBookfoziSfontconfig?11:45
b0ng0ive just installed new nvidia drivers and for some reason they've changed my keyboard layout from UK to US, how can i change it back?11:45
pipno one answer me ?11:45
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config11:45
trench-kcontrol...regional settings...keyboard layout11:45
pipMy adpet told me I have installed it11:45
xsachaMorrissey: yeah you have everything set up right.. you're on aiglx with composite and radeon but your display number in session is wrong -- this is why you have to use beryl-xgl at the moment (beryl-xgl defaults to display :1 instead of your default of :0)11:45
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Morrisseyxsacha, oh, ok .. but Im ok with that :) Thanks11:46
xsachaok11:46
trench-probably the reason why beryl-manager is not working11:46
Morrisseyxsacha, you have no idea how many hours I spent on getting it working :911:46
xsachaMorrissey: nup, it's not that hard :P11:47
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Morrisseytrench-, yeah, but do I need beryl-manager? Im fine with using beryl.settings11:47
trench-Morrissey, if anyone will know beryl here, that'll be xsacha :)11:47
xsachadont need it, i dont use beryl-manager11:47
MetaBookfoziSi have reconfigured fontconfig and fonctonfig-config, but it gives error, i'm pasting, a moment11:47
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Morrisseyxsacha, hehe, yeah, but theres many bad howtos out there, ecspeially for my hardware11:47
Morrisseyxsacha, trench-: sweet :)11:47
MetaBookfoziShmm, i think i need xrestart for font relaoding... moment11:48
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, I would really do a "sudo apt-get install yakuake && yakuake" and press f12 :) Check it out11:48
xsachayeah many howtos are outdated because you had to use Xgl just recently and a lot of things have changed so they'll give bad info11:48
Morrisseyxsacha, wich hardware are you on?11:48
b0ng0i cant add any keyboard layouts11:48
xsacharadeon 960011:49
Morrisseyxsacha, exacly11:49
Morrisseyxsacha, ok, I have a 9000, is there a huge difference? Cant wait to get my RAM though :)11:49
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MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, I would really do a "sudo apt-get install yakuake && yakuake" and press f12 :) Check it out11:49
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xsachanot much11:49
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MetaBookfoziS:(11:49
MetaBookfoziSyes, i try but i don'T think this problem only in konsole, i think i have some damaged files caused by the crashes11:50
Morrisseyxsacha, do you use that copy/cat or something thingy? And does it improve perfomance?11:50
xsachamy card doesnt have 2d acceleration because it's  9600 :( and that pretty much evens it out11:50
MetaBookfoziSso i want to repair it, before i have other crashing apps11:50
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trench-use-copy, and yes, it's helpful11:50
MetaBookfoziSand in otherways, krusader uses konsole, and it isn't starts without konsole.11:50
xsachacopy/cat? oh.. use-copy -- yeah i have to use that to get water effects :P11:50
MetaBookfoziSisn't start == kcrash ...11:51
Morrisseytrench-, ok, thanks :)11:51
MetaBookfoziShttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33885/11:51
xsachaberyl-xgl --use-copy11:51
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MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, have never seen that error before: any of you guys make any sence of this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33884/ ... looks like a font error11:51
MetaBookfoziSi have this after fontconfig reconfig, it's shorter than the before11:51
Morrisseyxsacha, ok, brb! ill give it a go11:51
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, I have to restart, brb11:52
MetaBookfoziSokay11:52
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xsacharestart? :S11:52
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MetaBookfoziSxrestart, imo11:52
phanatikguten morgen!!!11:52
trench-hehehe11:52
`Alex`so ... may i ask a question ? :D11:52
MetaBookfoziSgut, besser , gosser11:52
trench-windows flashbackl?11:52
xsachaohhh morrissey isnt using svn, i just scrolled back and saw lol11:53
trench-flashback*11:53
trench-hahahaha11:53
trench-oh-oh11:53
MetaBookfoziShmm, he is restarted completely:D11:53
xsachaLOL11:53
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trench-i've only rebooted my pc twice since install...both for kernel updates11:54
xsachai once managed to kill kernel.. sak wouldnt work so i needed hard reboot11:54
xsachaand another time i got frustrated and was just hoping that a restart would fix my problem, of course it didnt -- but in the time waiting for the reboot i figured it out11:55
trench-hehehe11:55
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`Alex`so ... could you guys help me out a bit ? :D11:55
MetaBookfoziSxsacha > :D11:56
`Alex`MetaBookFoziS11:57
`Alex`cnan you answer a question for me pls ?11:58
`Alex`:D11:58
MetaBookfoziSif you didn't ask, i can't.11:58
MetaBookfoziS:) so don 't ask about you may ask... askit:D11:58
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MetaBookfoziSif we can, we helps you...11:59
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trench-xsacha, we got an ETA for the svn yet? :)11:59
MetaBookfoziSwhat is the main packages?11:59
MetaBookfoziSor kubuntu-desktop ?11:59
`Alex`oki ... well the problem is ... i boot the kubuntu CD . i choose install or run kubuntu ... and iti gives me a black screen with an error like hdb: timeout and something about dma and after that hdb: drive not ready for command11:59
MetaBookfoziShopp sorry11:59
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trench-drive could be failing12:00
MetaBookfoziShmm, try gogling for it, i don't think you are alone with this problem12:00
MetaBookfoziSbut i never saw that.12:00
MetaBookfoziSso i can't help on you.12:00
`Alex`any other linux release works12:00
`Alex`:/12:00
trench-could be a bad burn then12:00
trench-if as you said, other distros work with it12:00
`Alex`could it be the iso image ?12:00
trench-not the image, the way it's burned12:01
xsachatrench-: eta for it to go up?12:01
`Alex`oki12:01
trench-crappy media, etc12:01
trench-yes xsacha :)12:01
`Alex`thx12:01
`Alex`i'll burn it again12:01
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xsachawell ixce said he was getting hammered and wanted svn mirrors -- do we have any svn mirrors lined up? :)12:01
trench-'Alex', try to burn it slower12:01
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trench-ahhh...12:01
`Alex`it was 16x12:01
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`Alex`even slower v?12:02
trench-try slower12:02
trench-8x12:02
`Alex`i had one at 3212:02
`Alex`i'l try another disk12:02
trench-coz the faster you burn, if the media is no good, you get a bad burn12:02
`Alex`bye12:02
`Alex`thx12:02
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`Alex`i'll be back if it keeps showing it12:02
`Alex`:D12:02
heinkel_111on Dapper, there was a lot of status messages displayed at system start (under the kubuntu logo). Can that be enabled on Edgy?12:02
trench-goodluck12:02
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`Alex`thx12:03
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xsachaall my media is verbatim :)12:03
trench-those 100 packs always give troubles12:04
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trench-sure it's a bargain12:04
trench-i won't trust sensitive data on them12:04
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Morrisseyxsacha, hi again :) I have enabled --use-cow, but no difference to anything though ... have you any recomendations concerning optimizing my performance? Som tags I should use with beryl-xgl or anything?12:07
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xsachaoh btw Morrissey i just scrolled up after you left and saw you arent using the svn version 0.1.312:08
xsachayou need 0.1.3 for --use-copy :S12:08
Morrisseyxsacha, oh :) What does --use-copy do actually+12:08
xsachait doesnt use texture from pixmap, so you dont need aiglx, Xgl or anything like that12:08
heinkel_111on Dapper, there was a lot of status messages displayed at system start (under the kubuntu logo). Can that be enabled on Edgy?12:08
Morrisseyxsacha, you said that I use 0.1.3, and i need 0.1.3 for --use-copy :)12:09
Morrisseyxsacha, will that improve perfomance?12:09
trench-0.1.3 - svn12:09
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Morrisseyso I should get the non-svn? How would I do that :) =12:10
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Morrisseywops, sory xsacha something went wrong here :) fell out :P But I should upgrade my beryl-xgl thing?12:12
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cox377i'm havint this problem, i added a new hdd to my system last night and now just when loading live cd it throws up loads of errors, remove the hdd and the problems goes. does anyone know why this would be?12:13
SchalkenI've just installed LAMP (well, the L was already installed), is apache set to start when the system boots by default?12:13
trench-perhaps jumper issues?12:13
Morrisseycox377, wich errors?12:14
xsachaMorrissey: if you want use-copy, you need 0.1.312:14
cox377trench-: i've tried all the jumper settings12:14
xsachait's not that much of a performance boost, i wouldnt worry about it, just some cool effects in 0.1.3 you're missing out on :)12:14
cox377Morrissey: it gives errors every step of the way of boot, the current errors are12:14
cox377squashhfs error12:14
MenZaSchalken: I'd assume you had to set /whatever/the/dir/is/lampp START to run on startup12:14
Morrisseyxsacha, oh :P Ive seen the wather marks on youtube, looks like a system deprover :P12:14
Morrissey(if thats a word)12:14
trench-cox377, there's a slim chance it can be a bad hdd...have you confirmed it works?12:15
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SchalkenMenZa: i hadn't set anything, just installed the packages.12:15
MenZaoh12:15
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MenZaAh dunno.12:15
Morrisseyisnt lamp in /etc/init.d/ ??12:15
xsachaMorrissey: deprover?12:15
cox377trench-: yup checked it, i mean it gives errors all the way through the boot12:15
SchalkenMenZa: "apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server" that is12:15
MenZaI know xampp isn't12:15
Morrisseyxsacha, opposite of improve :P hehe12:15
xsachaah no, the effects work great :)12:16
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SchalkenMorrissey: i will have a look in init.d12:16
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xsachathe big 3 for eating FPS are still: blur, water and trailfocus here12:16
Morrisseyxsacha, oh, maybe I should upgrade .. how would I do that? I mean whats your repos for that12:16
xsachaberyl-svn repository...12:16
Morrisseyxsacha, water's off, trailfocus is off .. blur? wheres that?12:16
SchalkenMorrissey: there is a file called "apache2" in /etc/init.d, does that mean it will start on boot?12:17
xsachablur effects12:17
Morrisseyand blur is of :) nice12:17
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MorrisseySchalken, not nesicarely, it just means its a system deamon ... you could make it bootable in system settings -> Advanced -> System Services I think12:17
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Morrisseyxsacha, ok, Ill look into those repos, thanks12:18
SchalkenMorrissey: there isn't an 'advanced' section in kcontrol12:18
MorrisseySchalken, not kcontrol ... go to you kde-menu and press system settings12:19
Morrisseythere should be an advance tab at the top12:19
xsachahttp://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/48545-2.png <-- intel pci express :P12:19
SchalkenMorrissey: errrr i have very custom KMenu12:19
MorrisseySchalken, kbfx :P Ok, two sec12:20
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MorrisseySchalken, in kcontrol --> Sysmte Administration -> system Services12:20
Morrisseyxsacha, whats the beryl-svn repo? cant find it12:20
xsachatuxfamily one12:21
SchalkenMorrissey: cool, it has 'yes' for 'start at boot' :D :D :D12:21
MorrisseySchalken, then you good to go :)12:21
Morrisseyxsacha, deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn12:21
Morrisseydeb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn12:21
Morrisseythanks xsacha12:21
cntb\o guys  looking for openoffice channel . here on freenode or other network ? appreciate useful info12:21
xsachaMorrissey: there's a key you need too12:22
SchalkenMorrissey: my webdev system is set up, cheers12:22
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cntb #kubuntu below 300 ppl ? go #kubuntu do !12:22
MorrisseySchalken, happy serving :)12:22
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Morrisseyxsacha, oh, wheres that key?12:23
Morrisseynm, I had it allready12:23
xsachak12:23
Morrisseyits on its way down .. so I should restart X, use beryl-xgl --use-copy then :)12:24
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metahow can i reinstall kde on kubuntu?12:24
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trench-adept manager...request reinstall installed kde components12:25
metathe apt-get install --reinstall kdebase is says kdebase-dev broken because some konsole version isn't able to install12:25
SortOfThingtry to remove konsole et reinstall it12:26
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pascalFRapt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?12:26
metanope...12:27
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Morrisseyxsacha, got a bunch load of errors :( beryl-xgl: Couldn't load plugin 'resize'12:27
Morrisseyberyl-xgl: '/usr/lib/beryl/libplace.so' plugin version does not match beryl version12:27
Morrissey++++++ many more, and beryl-xgl didnt start :(12:28
xsachaMorrissey: you just updated beryl-core?12:28
xsachaMorrissey: need to update all packages12:28
Morrisseyxsacha, i just did a sudo apt-get upgrade12:28
Schalkenactually, by the default LAMP install, can my computer act as a webserver to other computers on the LAN?12:28
xsachaMorrissey: did you remove old deb package for 0.1.1? then sudo apt-get update ?12:28
Morrisseyxsacha, no, how would I?12:29
xsachathen sudo apt-get install beryl12:29
Morrisseyin /var/cache?12:29
xsachait's in the same sources.list that you just put beryl-svn in12:29
Morrisseyok12:29
MorrisseyIll give it a go :)12:29
Morrisseytwo sec12:29
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Morrisseyxsacha, it worked :) thanks .. wich new effects should I try then? :P12:33
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xsacha:) burn, beam12:34
xsacha3d12:34
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xsachagroup, ..12:34
Morrisseywhat does that 3d thing do? I enabled it :P12:34
xsacharotate your cube and look side on at the windows12:35
Morrisseyum. whats the difference? :)12:35
xsachait comes *off* the cube12:35
meta__hey Morrissey12:36
meta__yakuake have the same error12:36
Morrisseyxsacha, oh .. hehe! Sweet :P12:36
meta__that konsole have12:36
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Morrisseymeta__, really .. that actually makes sence since yakukae uses many of the konsole features ..12:36
Morrisseyhm12:36
Morrisseycan you give me your pastebin again?12:36
Morrisseyxsacha, burn, beam? Wheres that? :P12:37
meta__i have renamed my .kde and i'm after some xrestarts, kdebase reinstalls12:37
meta__so not, but i make a new12:37
xsachaMorrissey: Animation12:37
Morrisseymeta__, I would actually try to make a new user and log in with him and check if konsole works .. then we know its your personal settings, not global12:37
Morrisseyxsacha, haha! Burn was way funny12:38
meta__http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33890/12:38
xsachaMorrissey: try particle size ~4.0 and # of particles: ~4000 :P12:38
xsachaand turn on smoke12:38
meta__hm ok, but the renamoing of .kde won'T helped...12:38
meta__and if i rename /home/meta ?:)12:38
meta__ok... go try make a new user12:39
Morrisseyxsacha, omg, that actually is quite sweet :P I really wish I had just a little better laptop right about now :)12:39
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xsachaMorrissey: yeah it probably doesnt look so nice on a laptop :P12:40
Morrisseyxsacha, it doesnt :P but it still fun to play around with12:40
mkasterhey i need some help12:40
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mkasteri'm a lil new to linux and i don't know how to install the soundcard12:41
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mkasterit says that the mixer is not found12:42
crimsunmkaster: what sound card is it?12:42
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mkasterdo u know how to check it?12:42
Morrisseymkaster, lspci12:42
mkasterthat didnt tell me about my sound card12:43
mkasterit listed the things that r installed and working12:43
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Morrisseymkaster, no, it lists your PCI bus ... check again12:44
mkasterit is builtin to the mobo12:44
balfaszhi, Morrissey i'm meta from a new user12:44
balfaszbut konsole won't want to start:/12:44
Morrisseybalfasz, that makes it a bit more tricky12:45
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balfasz:(12:45
Morrisseybalfasz, let me check your errors again12:45
hirshi12:45
balfaszokay12:45
crimsunmkaster: how old is the computer?12:46
mkasterhold on let me get to this specific one and i can tell u the model12:46
hirshas any one tryed to apt-build firefox?12:46
Morrisseybalfasz, you got me stuck ... it still looks like a font error, did you say that other programs are crashing as well?12:46
balfaszkrusader want's to use konsole so that crashes like yakuake12:47
Morrisseyxsacha, whats the big difference between compiz/beryl actually?12:47
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Morrisseybalfasz, ok, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole" maybe (though I doubt it will help)12:47
balfaszi tryed that...12:49
balfaszwon't helped12:49
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Morrisseybalfasz, I actually lost your pastebin again, too much restarting X over here :) Remember the url?12:49
mkasterit is a compaq deskpro sff with pentium 3 (600 mhz)  and i can't seem to find the model number12:49
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Morrisseymkaster, lspci | grep Multimedia12:50
Morrisseydoes that give you anything?12:50
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Morrisseymkaster, or lspci | grep Sound12:51
mkasterits not doing anything12:51
crimsungrep Audio12:52
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balfaszMorrissey:12:52
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balfaszhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33891/12:52
balfaszthe problem is not about libc?12:52
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Morrisseyone sec balfasz12:53
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balfaszokay12:53
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Morrisseywich version of kde and konsole do you have balfasz? have you been playing with "kde4"??12:56
matiwhere is wine config file?12:56
mkasterill brb i can find out the info when i log into windows12:56
Schalkenit seems every torrent i have in KTorrent reports no peers, what could be wrong?12:57
Morrisseybalfasz, wait12:57
trench-Schalken, ports forwarded?12:57
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Schalkentrench-: forwarded where?12:57
trench-or opened?12:57
trench-if youre using a router12:57
Morrisseybalfasz, ok, I traced your bug to http://lists.kde.org/?l=konsole-devel&m=114010128401313&w=2 ... so Its a known bug allright, Ill give you a text if I find anything more12:57
trench-or behind a firewall12:57
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balfaszi'm on the same domain12:58
trench-ktorrent uses a specific peer port12:58
cafenet69edgddddgg12:58
Schalkentrench-: does edgy have a firewall?12:58
balfaszi'm reading who have this and who have soludion12:58
matippls where i can find wine config file? :/12:58
trench-iptables12:58
Schalkentrench-: how do i see if its open?12:59
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trench-by default it will be open12:59
trench-so you're not using a router?12:59
Schalkentrench-: no, directed to external adsl modem12:59
Morrisseyxsacha, does animation "deprove" the system much as well? :)12:59
Schalkenmati_pl: ~/.wine/01:00
xsachaMorrissey: not here..01:00
trench-does your adsl modem have firewall/nat?01:00
trench-some of them do, that's why i asked01:00
xsachasay lower performance instead :P01:00
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Schalkentrench-: i doubt it, becuase it worked on suse and i hadnt touched my modem since.01:01
trench-cool then01:01
Morrisseyxsacha, hehe, ok .. I01:01
trench-try a known torrent with a lot of peers01:01
trench-better yet, try azureus01:01
Schalkentrench-: do you have one?01:01
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Schalkenazureus?01:01
trench-yes01:01
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trench-a much better torrent client01:02
trench-imo01:02
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defryskktorrent is great01:02
mati_plSchalken which file is it i have there: system.reg userdef.reg user.reg //im new to linux01:02
trench-azureus just had been friendly with trackers :)01:02
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cntbxsane preview screen disappears after 2 seconds on canon lide60 scanner . help01:03
defrysklatest ktorrent from here :  http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/01:03
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Schalkenmati_pl: i think wine config is stored somewhere in its registry. if you want to do configuration use winecfg01:03
mati_pli wanted add01:03
mati_pl"ClientSideAntiAliasWithRender" = "N"01:03
mati_pl"ClientSideAntiAliasWithCore" = "N"01:03
mati_plto use one game..01:04
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trench-or look for the kde frontend of wine, "kwine"01:04
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cntbxsane preview screen disappears after 2 seconds on canon lide60 scanner . help01:04
trench-wrong window >.<01:05
Schalkenmati_pl: errrr thats probably under the \\wine\\drivers part of the registry01:05
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cntbfound it . was really simple sorry to bother01:06
trench-oh...i was on the right window...hahaha01:06
Schalkentrench-: do you know a torrent that you know has peers?01:06
mati_plok i got it :) thx very much :)01:06
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trench-Schalken, grab like the latest episode of Heroes or Prison Break from torrentspy01:07
trench-those have tons of peers01:07
Schalkentrench-: i dont know what that is but okay01:07
_4strOyop yop01:07
trench-tv show01:07
trench-www.torrentspy.com01:07
trench-search it there01:07
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trench-pretty cool tv series if i may say so :)01:08
Schalkentrench-: which one is cool?01:08
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trench-prison break01:08
MenZa!warez01:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:08
trench-now on it's second season01:08
defryskthis is not a torrents chat afaIk01:08
trench-(my bad)01:09
mkasteri'm back with info on my audio card01:09
Schalkentrench-: ah, yes we had that in aus, never got into it tho01:09
defryskso please take this elsewhere or talk privatly01:09
mkasterit is an ESS Audiodrive, can someone help me install it01:09
MenZa!offtopic01:09
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!01:09
mkastermaybe we can use the windows driver? ess.sys?01:09
MenZaAnd anyway, keep warez away01:09
Morrisseyis tv torrents warez? Havent read about that yet01:10
trench-mkaster, there are ess drivers for linux...i use an alegro once before01:10
ce_nduthai01:10
MistaED2mkaster: the issue is it's an ISA based sound chip, which needs manual module option probing01:10
Schalkentrench-: the heroes torrent has plenty, must be a bad tracker i was using01:10
defryskMorrissey, its off topic01:10
trench-they're not warez...but anyway...01:10
trench-just off topic01:10
mkasteroh so can you help me do that?01:10
Morrisseyit wasnt a related question :) Just wondered (Wich btw also was off topic) :P01:11
MistaED2mkaster: i have a laptop which has an ESS, not sure if it's the exact same as yours "es1688"01:11
trench-mkaster, that was on a different distro before...not kubuntu01:11
Schalkentrench-: actually torrentspy has some good torrents, thansk for that01:11
trench-shhh with the warez talk :P01:12
balfaszMorrissey: i'm rebooting now brb01:12
mkasteri have a ESS AudioDrive according to windows01:12
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Schalkentrench-: its not like thats all they have on there...01:12
Schalkenor is it.01:12
MistaED2mkaster: you're lucky, i've got the line which i put in my /etc/modules from tomboy notes: snd-es1688 options snd-es1688 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3 fm_port=0x388 mpu_port=0x33001:12
trench-channel rules we must respect...that's all01:12
MistaED2but it is probably got different values, so try to check them in windows if you can01:13
Schalkenright.01:13
mkasterbut how do i use that info, i'm kinda new that's why i'm using an older computer for learning linux01:13
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MistaED2mkaster: afaik, the ESS audiodrive driver was a dos driver for win9x, check the autoexec.bat for values perhaps01:14
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conorhi, just wondering how to install nvidia drivers01:14
mkasterwhat is afaik01:14
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xsachaas far as i know01:14
conoras far as i know01:14
conor:o01:14
`Alex`:|01:14
`Alex`it seems i am back01:15
conor\o|01:15
conor|o|01:15
defrysk!nvidia | conor01:15
ubotuconor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:15
conorty01:15
MistaED2mkaster: sorry "as far as i know", ok could you please go into the driver properties in windows and get any info you can on this sound card? like the model number, any dma/irq values, etc.01:15
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conorim getting this from console01:15
conorconor@conor-desktop:~$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7184-pkg1.run01:15
conorsh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7184-pkg1.run01:15
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trench-have to be in the dir where the file is01:16
mkasterdammit let me logon to irc using my other computer, hold on01:16
defryskconor, read the link privded by ubotu01:16
defrysk!language | mkaster01:16
ubotumkaster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:16
MistaED2mkaster: hang on01:16
mkasteri'm staying here01:16
`Alex`i managed to install kubuntu .......... but i have a stupid problem :D01:16
xsachaspci | grep Audio ?01:17
xsachal01:17
MistaED2there might be a way to force auto detecting it, i remember redhat had a tool for old ISA sound chipsets which have no plug and play01:17
`Alex`i made the user wen i installed it .......... but now i don't have root access01:17
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TheGateKeeperuse sudo Alex01:18
trench-the user password is the root password...then you just sudo01:18
defrysk!sudo | `Alex`01:18
ubotu`Alex`: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:18
`Alex`yes01:18
`Alex`but i try to use the package manager01:18
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`Alex`and requires root access ........ the user password does not work01:19
`Alex`:/01:19
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defrysk`Alex`, read ubotus message and link01:19
MetaBookfoziSoaaa oaaa:(01:19
MetaBookfoziSkonsole won't start:(01:19
MetaBookfoziSMorrissey > how can i downgrade libc?01:19
MetaBookfoziSi think possible thatis a problem..01:19
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MistaED2mkaster: some info: http://www.oliyiptong.com/blog/2006/07/15/old-hardware-help-in-ubuntu/01:20
conorwhat repostories do i change for the nvidia drivers?01:20
defrysk!info nvidia-glx01:21
ubotunvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB01:21
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MetaBookfoziS4mb to 12mb:)01:21
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defryskconor, you need restricted in your repo for nvidia-glx01:22
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mkasterok im here on my other computer01:23
conordefrysk: thats all ?01:24
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, hi ... first, you should get an older package on the web01:24
mkasterim logging into windows now01:24
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MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, then you should "sudo apt-get remove libc" and "sudo dpkg -i <older package>.deb"01:24
eftHi. on 6.10 how can I stop resolv.conf from being overwritten? Commenting out the make_resolv_conf() function in dhclient-script and adding prepend domain-name-servers 130.89.1.2; dhclient.conf both don't work.01:25
MetaBookfoziShow can i get what libc is i needed01:25
MetaBookfoziSis there a million libc package01:25
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defryskconor, after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx , do sudo nvidia-xconfig01:25
defryskthen restart X conor01:25
defryskthats all01:26
mkasterit shows up in device manager as "es1869 plug and play audiodrive (wdm)"01:26
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, im sorry, I dont know01:26
conordefrysk:  thanks for your help01:26
MorrisseyMetaBookfoziS, have you tried --reinstall libc as well?01:26
fdovingeft: what if you remove the 'domain-name' and 'domain-name-servers' from the 'request' line, in dhclient.conf ?01:26
defryskconor, if you have an older card get nvidia-glx-legacy01:26
conor7600gt :D01:27
defryskok01:27
MetaBookfoziS!info libc01:27
mkasterdid my friend go away?01:27
ubotuPackage libc does not exist in any distro I know01:27
MistaED2mkaster: excellent, the driver we need to use in linux is snd-es18xx (however sometimes windows gives out wrong info and it really is an snd-es16xx)01:27
MetaBookfoziS^01:27
eftfdoving: thanks, gonna try01:27
MetaBookfoziSMorrissey >01:27
MetaBookfoziS^01:27
mkasterok do u want me to go back into linux?01:27
MistaED2mkaster: one sec, we need some dma/irq numbers, can you go into the properties of the driver under windows and just look around the tabs for some of this info?01:28
georgebeft: you can try to modify /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf; remove domain-name-servers from request and require sections, I not sure if this is enough, though01:29
mkasterim writing them down now01:29
fdovingeft: also, 'supersede' is often better than prepend for dmina-name-servers.01:29
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mkasterthe i/o ranges too?01:29
eftkk, will do supersede as well :)01:29
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MistaED2mkaster: all i needed for this laptop was irq, dma1, dma2, fm_port & mpu_port (the two on the end i don't think really matter unless you want midi playback)01:30
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georgebfdoving, eft: what do you mean by supersede ?01:30
mkasterwhat is fm and mpu port?01:31
MomalCan someone tell me how to allow mysql 4.1 (linux install ubuntu) to accept external connections | I asked in #mysql but someone might know here as well01:31
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eftgeorgeb, its another line in dhclient.conf that is commented out by default01:31
georgebfdoving, eft: aha, got it.. in dhclient.conf01:31
conordunno if its still a driver problem but when i drag my windows they leave a trail behind them01:31
mkasteris it okay to paste the data in here or is it against channel rules?01:31
MistaED2mkaster: not 100% sure on fm but mpu is "mpu401" for midi file playback01:31
MistaED2!pastebin01:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:32
MistaED2mkaster: try putting it on pastebin01:32
conorhttp://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6053/snapshot1uy1.png01:32
conorthats a bit of it01:32
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mkasterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33899/01:33
Morrisseyxsacha, what is FSP?01:33
Fiya_Breakanyone have problems with intenet on kubuntu, whree when seemingly only loading websites, dns will just stop working altogether01:34
xsachaMorrissey: Focus Steal Protection01:34
Fiya_Breakno matter what your dns servers are set to01:34
Fiya_Breaki dont lose any active connections, so i know the nets not going out, and it doesnt happen in windows01:34
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Fiya_Breaki can access the net with my laptop wihle the desktop with kubuntu just stops resolving01:34
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Fiya_Breakthis happens consistantly01:34
MistaED2mkaster: cool, we're ready to get linux working with the sound chip01:34
conoranyone ?01:34
AlexCpip: #wooooooooooooo01:35
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mkasterMistaED2: so start up linux?01:35
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MistaED2mkaster: yep01:36
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MetaBookfoziSso no idea why my konversation don't want to start?01:36
conorok this might be a stupid question01:37
mkasterMistaED2: im gonna want midi playback just in case so will that be any trouble to add on to help me?01:37
MetaBookfoziSthis might be a 4hour old question01:37
conorbut can someon take a screenie of all there networks settings01:37
MetaBookfoziSand not konversation, konsole01:37
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conori deleted 2 things that had ipv6 in them01:37
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MistaED2mkaster: no problem at all actually01:38
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mkastercool01:38
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conor:_( i hate slow internet01:39
mkasterMistaED2: j/w where did u learn linux? I'm looking to learn it to put it on my resume since i'm already an expert at windows OS01:39
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mkasterMistaED2: ok it started up01:40
eftfdoving, georgeb: Didn't work. Thanks for the suggestions though :) Might uninstalling dhcp be ab option? I want static anyway.01:41
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MistaED2mkaster: k, here is the pastebin i've typed up with some instructions: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33901/01:41
conorcan someone tell me what they have in the box on network settings01:41
conoranything with ip601:43
conor....01:43
fdovingeft: what is your setup like? you'll have to restart dhclient to make it re-read the config.01:43
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conor:_(01:43
eftfdoving: I've got nic to nic with my debian server that doesn't run a dhcp server01:44
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mkasterMistaED2: It asks for a password01:44
fdovingeft: where do you get the dhcp information from? i doubt dhclient will update resolv.conf if there is no dhcp-server available.01:44
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Gunirushio01:45
Gunirushi01:45
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MistaED2mkaster: yeah put in your admin/root password01:45
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GunirusI have a problem on edgy01:45
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GunirusI can't set my keyboard layout01:45
GunirusThe list is empt01:45
Gunirusy01:45
mkasterMistaED2: i didnt set one up for root01:45
travkinGunirus, use xorg.conf01:45
travkinsudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:45
MistaED2mkaster: yeah ubuntu uses sudo so just use your user password01:45
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GunirusBut, why is the list in kcontrol empty?01:46
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eftfdoving: Well, ifdown/ifup and networking restart don't do anything but after a reboot resolv.conf is again overwritten eventhough I *think* I set it up as static.01:46
conor!ipv601:46
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv401:46
trench-some kde modules most likely failed to load01:46
xsteadfastxis there a way to boot from the actual kubuntu cd in the server mode?01:46
agresion`Alex01:46
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mkasterMistaED2: ok now to follow the rest of tyhe directions01:46
Gunirusxorg.conf is correct01:47
Gunirusonly my alt gr + ... keys are not working01:47
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`Alexjust an answer i want .......... can i do something to actualy login as root ?01:48
fdovingeft: do you have the package 'resolvconf' installed?01:49
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fdoving!rootsudo | `alex01:49
ubotu`alex: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:49
eftfdoving: yes01:49
mkasterMistaED2: is the symbol between the 0 and 220 an x?01:50
conorthis means ipv6 is still enabled right ?01:50
conorconor@conor-desktop:~$  ip a | grep inet601:50
conor    inet6 ::1/128 scope host01:50
conor    inet6 fe80::215:f2ff:fe77:3005/64 scope link01:50
MistaED2mkaster: yep01:50
conorwoops01:50
conorwasnt the pastebin link xD01:50
Gunirustravkin: Now everything is fine, except alt gr + ... keys01:50
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hirshi01:52
fdovingeft: then you can use resolvconf to manage nameservers. 'man resolvconf' , the easy way is to put your resolv.conf entries in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head01:52
MetaBookfoziSMorrissey > have you any idea where i need to go?01:52
conoranyone know how i reset all my internet and network settings to when i installed ?01:52
fdovingeft: that file is prepended to the dynamic nameserver entries created by resolvconf.01:52
hirsdoes anyone know why I get a crash dialog in kaffeine on exit?01:52
hirsI'm using version 0.8.2-0ubuntu201:53
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eftfdoving: thanks, will try, but this one also says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN". And afaik /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to this file.01:54
mkasterMistaED2: i did everything up to "if u want sound at startup" but theres nothing in the mixers when i goto the sound thing01:55
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fdovingeft: it's not a link to that file. it's a link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf01:55
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travkin Error loading '/home/travkin/.xchat2/xmms-info.pl':01:55
travkin Can't locate MP3/Info.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 4) line 4.01:55
travkin BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 4) line 4.01:55
travkinwtf?01:55
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travkinlibxmms-perl installed01:56
MistaED2mkaster: ok with the modprobe command did it complain, what did it do?01:56
kaffeewollerhi guys, i am having an installation problem with the alternate cd of kubuntu edgy01:56
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mkasterit didnt give any output01:56
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kaffeewolleri am given a Debootstrap Error, Faild to determine the codename for the release.01:56
fdovingeft: you'll edit the file that includes the warning at the top in /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf. resolv.conf is generated from teh files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/01:56
kaffeewollerwhat's going on?01:56
eftfdoving: Ok thanks a lot?! gonna try it now. brb :)01:57
mkasterMistaED2:  it didnt give any output01:58
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kaffeewollerso I can't even install the base system01:58
cox377I've got this problem when i do sudo -i01:58
cox377or anything to do with sudo01:58
cox377it gives this error01:58
cox377cant stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory01:59
cox377does anyone know what this might be?01:59
MistaED2mkaster: hmm, i guess just continue on with putting the snd-es18xx into the /etc/modules file and restart ubuntu, if you still don't get any sound try editing the files and put snd-es16xx in instead01:59
mkasterMistaED2: i just restarted kmix and it didnt have the X over it anymore im gonna look for my mp3 file i had and try to play it02:00
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cox377anyone?02:01
MistaED2mkaster: ok cool, maybe look for a program such as xmms which uses alsa natively, as a lot of kde apps go through "ARTS" first, which sucks02:01
eftfdoving: Thanks a lot, it works! Now in gonna unbork all the other config files I've mangled in the process :)02:01
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zerakdo microsoft sponsor Ubuntu / Kubuntu ? ( I am seriously starting to wonder )02:04
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vrykogoodmorning everybody02:06
mkasterMistaED2: i'm in kaffeine player and i opened up the xine engine settings and set it to also but it isnt playing and there are these expert settings that are confusing02:06
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cox377zerak: what makes u say that?02:08
MistaED2mkaster: ok try what i said just above, experiment a little02:08
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mkasterMistaED2: is it supposed to make a sound when i raise and lower the volume in the mixer?02:08
MetaBookfoziShmm my firefox goes crazy02:08
MistaED2snd-es16xx instead of snd-es18xx perhaps, or just restart with the /etc/modules filled out02:08
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MistaED2mkaster: probably not, so there's a sound chip appearing in the mixer?02:09
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cox377"cant stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory"02:09
zerakcox377 due to all the bugs02:09
MetaBookfoziShttp://metamorfozis.hu/p/ff.png02:09
mkasteryes it says ESS AudioDrive ES186902:09
MetaBookfoziSplease check it, my buttons and controls died02:10
MetaBookfoziSwhy?02:10
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mkastershould I try restarting?02:10
cox377zerak: lol02:10
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zerakcox377 and i configure something to work and then later it is all gone02:10
cox377zerak: thats odd02:10
cox377so far my kubuntu has been running perfectly, it's become  little unstable the last couple of days but thats a hw issue i think02:10
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MistaED2mkaster: yes try a restart, and good it appears in the mixer (i'm thinking now it could be the dma1= & dma2= may need their numbers swapped or something silly like that02:11
wilmani dont hear sound whit flashplayer. does anyone has a remedy ?02:11
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zerakcox377 if you want to see things that are odd, use user management and try to get admin mode, sometimes you get a dialog sometimes you get stuck without a dialog and unable to do anything (like SuSe -"do you want to proced?" and gives one BIG OK dialog (no no button or cancel)02:12
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zerakcox377 or what about previously in ubuntu, saving root password in the log file so that anybody could read it02:13
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zerakcox377 uninstalling xserver without reason if you ask me02:14
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Hobbseewilman: in firefox?02:15
wilmanja02:16
wilmanis dat makkelijk op te lossen?02:16
wilmanis that easy to solve?02:16
Hobbseewilman: install alsa-oss, and run aoss firefox02:16
Hobbsee!flash02:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:17
mkasteryeah its still not playing02:17
wilmanok02:17
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Hobbseewilman: see the troubleshooting under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3 for a permanent solution02:18
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wilmanwell even with aoss it doesnt work02:19
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mkasterfor some reason no media player on kubuntu will play the audi or even start playing but audio comes out of the speakers when i close windows02:19
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Alter-Egowhat is initramfs used for02:21
Alter-Ego?02:21
unclemike? whats the latest kernel for 6.06...i have 2.6.15-23-386 installed right now02:21
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icheyneunclemike, I'm on edgy, but so long as you are on a P2 or above, you should install the 686 kernel02:32
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unclemikeim on a p2 45002:33
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BluesKajHowdy All ! :)02:35
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cntbA guy asked me02:55
cntb>>>>> (15:40:22) bloodhound: cntb: i could say with so many debian derivates , why ubuntu ?02:55
cntbwhat do I answer ?02:55
Jucato"personal choice/preference/taste"02:55
cntbthat's all Jucato?02:56
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Jucatoit's the only one that you won't need to defend :)02:56
cntbheard of puppyOS ?02:56
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MehercleHow can i reconfigure my x server?02:56
cntbhere comes the root02:56
Jucatoheard of it, never seen/tried it02:56
JucatoMehercle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:56
Meherclethanks02:56
cntbme neither02:57
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cntb -- jucato /whois bloodhound02:57
Smoophhi anbody here who knows his way through css02:57
JucatoO.o02:57
cntband  -/invite jucato #puppylinux02:58
Jucatoerr.. why?02:58
cntbjust so02:58
Duesentriebhi all - i lost the tray icon for laptop battery status (klaptopdeamon/powernow, i guess). How do i get it back?02:58
Duesentriebi can't find anything in the "add applet" dialog02:59
cntbDuesentrieb: -- I guess >> System Settings02:59
Duesentriebcntb: didn't see anything obvious there either...02:59
Duesentriebin the control panel, i mean03:00
DuesentriebSystem- > Settings doesn't exist03:00
Jucatohe meant "System Settings"03:00
cntbno no Duesentrieb03:00
cntbexactly Jucato Duesentrieb03:00
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cntband there maybe hardware > Laptops & Power03:01
Duesentrieb(background: i tried kpowersave, which replaces klaptopdaemon/powernowd/apmd; but it didn't work, so i reverted. But now i don't see a frontend for the laptop/power stuff any more)03:01
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cntbDuesentrieb:  last above pls03:01
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Duesentriebcntb: there's nothing about hardware or laptop or power there.03:02
cntbon mine there is03:03
Duesentriebim using 3.5.503:03
Duesentriebkde 3.5.5 that is03:03
cntbI even found a place Duesentrieb03:03
Duesentrieboh cool, where?03:04
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cntbcheck it out Duesentrieb SystemSettings > HARDWARE > LAptop &Power > LAPTOP battery > checkbox for "Show battery monitor"03:04
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Duesentriebthere's no hardware section in the system settings.03:05
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cntbask other ppl here will ell you the same Duesentrieb03:05
Duesentriebcntb: are you using edgy?03:05
cntbwhat sections you have I have it translated to hebrew03:05
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cntbdapper03:05
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Duesentriebyes, on dapper, the dialog was very different03:05
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Duesentriebhad a lot more sections03:06
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cntbis that it ? changes in edgy Duesentrieb ?03:06
Duesentriebwhat "it"?03:06
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Duesentriebedgy makes it hard for me to find the settings, yes03:06
cntbpress show all Duesentrieb03:06
Jucatohave you tried using the search bar?03:07
Duesentriebedgy also uses a different deamon and applet for power & laptop stuff, iirc03:07
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Duesentriebthere'S no "show all". There'S "advanced", which gives me ttuff lice partitions, gdm config, systenv services.03:07
Duesentriebbut no power/acpi stuff03:07
mildnerhi there how can I change to the german section...03:08
JucatoDuesentrieb: you can type in the search bar the keyword, like "power"03:08
BluesKaj!de03:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:08
Jucatoit will show you how many "hits" you have03:08
DuesentriebJucato: no matches.03:08
Jucatostrange...03:08
mildnerhow can i safe these locations03:08
Duesentriebmildner: "safe"? depends on what program you are using for IRC, i guess.03:09
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Duesentriebnormally, you don't "save" channels...03:09
sybuxHi, I'm trying to watch some divx video but I can't. I've install the w32codecs but kaffe03:09
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cntbsysten settings shows me the binary is called ngs03:09
DuesentriebJucato, cntb: do you have an idea in what package this stuff could be located? perhaps it got uninstalled when i tried kpowersave03:09
cntbwhere is the ngs in dapper03:10
Jucatonope03:10
sybux... but kaffeine still say that there is no plugin03:10
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cntbDuesentrieb: try  >>> sudo apt-cache search blabla03:10
cntbk?03:10
Duesentriebcntb: did that. "ngs" turns up lots and lots of stuff. what'S ngs anyway?03:11
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Duesentriebapt search is much too broad to be useful03:11
cntbgrep it then Duesentrieb ;-)03:11
mazuis it possible to use apt-get to check dependences of all installed packages?03:11
cntbsudo apt-cache search blabla | grep yourstring03:12
Duesentriebcntb: that would be redundant. the grep would be just as broad.03:12
Duesentriebmazu: "check dependencies"? it should always warn you if you have broken dependencies. you can run "apt-get -f install" (without a package) to fix broken package dependencies03:13
mazuIn my openoffice instead of letters in interface there are squares, and I think i might removed some package when I was uninstallig gnome03:13
Jucato"apt-cache depends <package>" or "apt-cache depends --recurse <package>"03:13
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Jucatovery useful when partnered with "grep <search_pattern>"03:14
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Duesentriebok, let me try a different approach:03:15
Duesentriebanyone using edgy on a laptop?03:15
mazuyes03:15
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Duesentriebmazu: got a battery life display near the clock?03:16
mazuyes03:16
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Duesentriebcan you tell me what it is called?03:16
mazuklaptop03:16
Duesentriebhm... I think that was the one i had in dapper... edgy installed another one. hm...03:16
mazuif you are using kde og course03:16
Duesentriebi am03:16
Duesentriebbut "klaptop" isn't offered as an applet to add.03:17
Duesentriebon the command line, i only see klaptop_acpi_helper AND klaptop_check - that'S not it03:17
mazuhmmm it's a daemon03:18
mazuthe full name of package is klaptopdaemon03:18
Duesentriebyes... i have that03:18
Duesentriebbut a deamon doesn't have a ui by itself.03:18
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cntbbad news . yesterday I tried kubuntu on one of newest LG COREduo laptops and.. install wont detect nenetcard pciexpress RT816803:19
Duesentriebanyway, gotta run03:19
Duesentriebbbl03:19
mazuhmmm after I had installed this, the icon shows up03:19
cntbyour case instructive ty Duesentrieb03:19
cntb#kubuntu rather sleepy now03:19
mazuhere is a link to a thread on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30622603:22
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mazuI'm heaving problems with openoffice interface fonts03:22
mazumaybe someone can help me???03:22
BluesKajanyone have the google earth repository in their sources list ?03:23
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pascalhi all03:26
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BluesKajhi pascal03:27
pascalcu03:28
JucatoBlaise Pascal?03:28
Jucato:)03:28
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cntbwhere is the binary of  KDESystemSettings of dapper in filesystem?03:36
martintany budy home?03:36
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martintany budy knows some irc server howto?03:37
Jucatocntb: what do you mean03:38
martintI want to install IRC server on my machine (AMD64 6.10)03:38
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martintitried through apt-get, but couldn't figure out how to make it work03:39
Jucatocntb: System Settings is launched by the "systemsettings" command in /usr/bin/ and the package that installs it is kde-systemsettings03:40
BluesKajwhich client ?03:40
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Jucatohe said wants to install an IRC server?03:40
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cntbhow do I check uptime?03:41
abattoircntb: 'uptime' in a terminal03:41
abattoir(or konsole)03:41
cntbah ty03:41
martintyep IRC server03:42
cntband how do  it have reported on kde? uptime Imean03:42
abattoircntb: you mean you want it shown on your desktop or something?03:43
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Morrisseyhey, I kind of !offtopic question, but I have a 2.2 mhz Pentium 4 with 2x256mb RAM. And using XGL my computer's kinda slow (Not the 3d effects thought). Would buying a 1gb RAM chip, and replace it with one of the 256 one improve my KDE envioriemnt?03:43
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mc__Morrissey: it would03:44
Morrisseymc__, ok, good to hear. Because normal browsing and changing between windows is really slow ..03:44
mc__Morrissey: not using XGL would bring a bigger performance gain03:45
Morrisseymc__, of course :) But I want both :P03:46
mc__Morrissey: you could try AIGLX instead fo XGL03:46
MorrisseyI am .. actually :)03:46
martintNo IRC server howto?03:47
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martintok sayonara03:49
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oemi have just installed kubuntu. the menus behave strangely, the focus always wanders to the topmost item03:49
oemdo you have that, too?03:49
oemit wanders unless i am hovering over a branching item03:50
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dirollordialo03:52
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abattoiroem: this is when you do not move the mouse pointer?03:53
abattoiroem: could you try restarting KDE?03:53
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oemabattoir: 2x yes03:53
oemshould i?03:53
oemi will. brb03:54
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abattoiroem: well, it might work fine if you restart03:54
abattoiroem: else it is a bug03:54
abattoiroem: never seen something like this before though03:54
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dirollordisomeone knows if xgl can be integreted in kubuntu ?03:55
MorrisseyIve seen that aMSN takes a lot of memory, is the a good looking replacement?03:55
Morrisseydirollordi, I have KDE+AIGXL03:55
MorrisseyAIXGL*03:55
dirollordiis it easy to install ?03:56
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Morrisseyhehe03:56
Morrisseyit depends ..03:56
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MorrisseyATI or Nvidia?03:56
dirollordii'm new in the linux world ^^03:56
dirollordiATI03:56
abattoiroem: works?03:56
oemabattoir: it is still broken03:56
abattoiroem: are you on a laptop?03:56
oemyes03:56
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Morrisseydirollordi, then no .. it can be quite tricky ... ask around in #ubuntu-xgl and google some forums03:56
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abattoiroem: amd64 OS ?03:57
rafael_kubuntuHow can I edit a file?03:57
oemabattoir: no, x38603:57
dirollordiMorrissey : thx03:57
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MorrisseyRadiantFire, pico file03:57
rafael_kubuntuHow can I edit a file?03:57
MorrisseyRadiantFire, or "gedit file"03:57
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abattoirrafael_kubuntu: kate file03:58
defryskin kubuntu kate /path/to/file03:58
abattoirrafael_kubuntu: if you need to edit a file which has root access, 'kdesu kate file'03:58
defryskneed root ? sudo kate /path/to/file03:58
Jucato!kdesu03:58
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:58
abattoir(/path/to/file, as defrysk suggests, if you aren't in that dir.)03:58
abattoiroem: that's weird...03:59
dirollordithis channel is only for kubuntu users ?03:59
abattoiroem: everything else works fine?03:59
Jucatodirollordi: kubuntu-support actually03:59
oemwell, as far as i can see, yes03:59
dirollordiyes ok03:59
abattoirdirollordi: yes, #ubuntu is for general ubuntu(gnome support)04:00
oemabattoir: but i haven't been trying a lot04:00
dirollordiok04:00
dirollordii'll stay here ^^04:00
oemabattoir: owning the system for an hour now04:00
abattoiroem: cool, it came with kubuntu pre-installed?04:00
oemno, i did that myself, from the alternate cd04:01
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abattoiroem: oh, so you installed in the oem mode...04:01
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asammoin04:01
oemabattoir: yes04:01
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oemabattoir: obviously :D04:01
abattoir:P04:01
asamich suche mall die krusader kan jmanden helifen ??04:01
abattoir!de04:01
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:01
abattoir!krusader04:02
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB04:02
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defrysk!info krusader | asam04:03
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB04:03
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asamund wo kanmmer das finden ?04:03
BluesKaj!de04:03
abattoir!de | asam04:03
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:03
ubotuasam: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:03
defryskasam, krusader is in universe repo04:04
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oemi dont know. did anyone else have this problem?04:06
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xTavareshello04:09
cox377can anyone recommend a program for light editing of image files?04:10
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LjLcox377: krita? :)04:11
heinkel_111is it possible to get flash working on a 64-bit now?04:11
cox377LjL: cheers ;) just install xpaint, shall install krita as well04:12
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Jucatodigikam or gwenview with kipi-plugins?04:12
Jucatokrita is already installed by default on Kubuntu04:12
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cox377LjL: opps it was already installed04:13
cox377Jucato: yup04:14
cox377Jucato: just the guy, i've got a prob when i try and run sudo of any sort.. do u think u could give me a minute?04:14
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Jucatocox377: what problem?04:14
cox377cant stat /etc/sudoers - no such file or directory04:15
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LjLcox377: and do you have an /etc/sudoers file?04:16
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Jucatocox377: LjL is more adept in giving you a hand...04:17
cox377nope04:17
Jucato:)04:17
LjLcox377: any idea of when and why you could possibly have deleted it?04:17
cox377LjL: well it's on a new install04:17
cox377LjL: technically i shouldnt ask the question here04:17
LjLnot good04:17
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LjLwhy?04:17
cox377LjL: it's not for dreamlinux another debian based os that i'm just checking out on another machine but the support here is faultless04:18
LjLcox377: so on one machine sudo works fine, and on another it complains there's no /etc/sudoers, with the same distribution?04:19
MorrisseyMem:        have: 515756     used: 485176      free: 30580          0      17492     212416 <--- is this why my computers kind of slow lately? Changing applications windows, browsing, +++ is really slow :( Using KDE04:19
LjLcox377: this is the default /etc/sudoers for Ubuntu, you might want to use it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33924/  -  to make things work, you must make users that need sudo access members of group "admin"04:20
cox377LjL: nah, this is the kubuntu machine that i'm currently on and it's fine, i've just installed dreamlinux on another machine for test purposes04:20
cox377LjL: cheers just opening up now04:20
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LjLcox377 sudo needs to be configured. Ubuntu comes with sudo as the default means to get root privileges, but other distributions don't04:21
cox377LjL: ahh i see04:21
cox377does this site show me how?04:21
LjLwhich site, my pastebin link? that's just my own /etc/sudoers file... it might do the trick, but it might not04:21
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cox377so i just gotta create a file with that?04:22
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LjLcox377: i'd try that. make it owned by root:root, and give it permissions o=r,g=r,o=04:23
Morrisseyfell out .. did anyone reply? :)04:23
LjLerr i mean u=r,g=r,o=04:23
Morrisseyhere is my "free" output: Mem:        have: 515756    used: 450316     free: 65440 <--- and that is JUST after starting X up ... is that why my computer's so slow lately? Browsing web pages, changing windows everything .. slow04:24
LjLcox377: if you use "visudo" to create it, it'll probably get the right permissions automatically04:24
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paulwMorrissey: I don't think so, are there any processes running?04:25
LjLMorrissey, that's not the full "free" output... look at buffers/caching as well. Linux uses up a lot of memory for file caching, but it'll promptly free it when it's needed04:25
LjLso in a way, the "free" figures are fake04:25
Morrisseypaulw, yeah, beryl-xgl for instance :P And xchat, and amsn04:25
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Morrisseybut it would help with more RAM right?04:26
cox377LjL: nice one, just trying it out04:26
cox377i;ve pasted the text in just trying to work out how to get it to accept it got this WriteOut but struggling to activate it04:26
paulwMorrissey: are they eating up resources in top?  512MB of RAM should be plenty.04:27
Morrisseypaulw, yeah, they are :P04:27
Morrisseypaulw, at most theyr eating together about 50%04:27
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MorrisseyXorg is constant at 20% and Beryl-xg is about 5-1004:28
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paulwMorrissey: don't know04:30
Morrisseymy god, 20%, thats alot04:30
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pirupirubonjours04:31
LjLmy free output is for that matter is   Mem:        514864     507032       7832          0     111568     13673204:31
Morrisseyhow much does xorg use for you guys?04:31
LjLabout 10% right now.04:31
MorrisseyLjL, same as here (approx) ...04:31
LjLMorrissey: yes, which i'm saying is fine, itself. instead, look at the swap - are you using a lot of it?04:32
cox377LjL: your the daddy04:32
superkirbyartistIt seems that every time my iMac goes on, the font looks messed and I have to go to KControl to adjust it.  What can I do so that it's automatic?04:32
pirupiruhi scuse me i'm trying to install kubuntu on my computer but QTparted doesn't accept that i create a swap partition, could someone help me please ? :)04:32
LjLi'm using 17 megs of swap right now. which means the system is fine04:32
MorrisseyLjL, using 0 swap04:32
LjLso it's even finer04:32
MorrisseyLjL, but my computer is really slow, and my fan starts alot :)04:32
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LjLthat looks like your CPU is being used a lot... not your RAM04:33
LjLlook at the percentage figures in top *for the CPU*04:33
superkirbyartistAny help to keep the settings I have right now?04:34
MorrisseyLjL, Cpu(s): 11.9%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 84.8%id,  0.0%wa,  1.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st04:34
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MorrisseyLjL, maybe its my graphic card then ..04:34
LjLdoesn't look like it's being used much, either04:34
BluesKajpirupiru, I suggest that you burn GParted to a disc and use it as a live cd for editing partitions ...it's very stable and easy to use , and it works !04:34
DekKeDI want to install kde-devel package, but I get "BREAK (install)". Any solutions?04:34
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LjLdunno, maybe if you're using beryl and stuff...04:34
MorrisseyLjL, maybe :) Ill buy some ram anyways04:35
LjLif it's cheap enough... but 512Mb isn't really that bad04:35
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LjLand, don't be surprised if after you've bought another 512Mb, "free" still shows it's all being used04:35
BluesKajpirupiru, QParted is buggy in edgy and dapper04:36
Morrissey ie: chaning tabs in xchat is really slow ... brining up a window is really slow, and so on04:36
MorrisseyLjL, ok, thanks :)04:36
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pirupiruBluesKaj: so how can i create the partition i want please ?04:37
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Chris7mas512 isn't bad at all04:37
BluesKajpirupiru, did you understand what i wrote ?04:37
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pirupiruBluesKaj: you say that QTparted bug on the last version of the distribution04:38
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BluesKajyes, use GParted ...it's different and better than QParted04:39
Naradahi; which guide would you recommend to install xgl on kubuntu; there's so many of them and all different04:39
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BluesKajyou have to burn Gparted to a cd , then use in the bootup04:39
pirupiruhum ok, and could kubuntu be installed on an extended partition ? :)04:40
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BluesKajyes04:41
pirupiruok thanks a lot :)04:41
BluesKajNP ..good luck04:41
BluesKaj:)04:41
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LjLMorrissey: i'd look at the graphics card side of things for starters. i.e. disable XGL or whatever you've got, and see04:42
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MorrisseyLjL, actually just found out that this guy was using XGL with my card as well. Though it should be plenty to use XGL with, he has the same problem. Browsing web pages and all is slow04:45
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LjLpersonally i just stay clear of XGL and the likes for the time being04:45
Naradahow do you restart X on kubuntu04:47
MorrisseyNarada, the easy way? :) ctrl-alt-backspace04:47
LjLNarada: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts it without any clean-up (so use it with care)04:47
dr0fnax!edgy04:47
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download04:47
MorrisseyLjL, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL <--- shows Notes: Distorted Screen with both drivers (ati-drivers-8.22.05, 8.23.7) but works (slowly) with open source drm drivers04:48
Morrisseyhopefully ittl get fixed :)04:48
dr0fnax!beryl04:48
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl04:48
NaradaLjL: Morrissey isn't there an init script that deep stops and starts it?04:48
LjLNarada: yes, /etc/init.d/kdm04:48
LjLNarada: but never use it from inside X, only from a VT04:48
LjL"sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" will restart your X, if you run it from a VT04:49
NaradaLjL: k that's exactly what i needed04:49
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LjLNarada: it isn't too different from ctrl+alt+backspace though, really. it still doesn't turn your KDE off nicely04:49
LjLyou should still log out, if you want to do things cleanly04:50
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NaradaLjL: stop and then start from vt then?04:51
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LjLNarada: just "restart" will do nicely, without manually stopping and then starting04:52
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mneisenhi, i am just upgrading to edgy eft and encounter some problems with dependencies. Somebody help me? Thanks in advance.04:56
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jamonationmneisen: tried doing it with aptitude?04:57
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mneisennot yet. How would I do that?04:57
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jamonationsudo aptitude on the command line04:58
mneisenjamonation: and then? i guess this i not all that it takes ... :-D04:58
abattoir!upgrade | mneisen04:58
ubotumneisen: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:58
jamonationthen you... read what ubotu says...04:59
mneisenabattoir: thank you.04:59
abattoirmneisen: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, before proceeding04:59
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mneisenjamonation: :-D04:59
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mneisenjamonation: abattoir: Thank you for the link, but I already followed that procedure.05:00
mneisenapt-get -u dist-upgrade stopped with unmet dependencies (courier-imap and the like).05:01
abattoirmneisen: what error do you get? could you pastebin it?05:01
abattoir!pastebin05:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:01
mneisenthat's were I got stuck.05:01
mneisenabattoir: one mom plz05:01
abattoirsure05:01
abattoiryou also might need dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled...05:01
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mneisenmneisen@samsumm:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a05:02
mneisendpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tuxkart:05:02
mneisen tuxkart depends on tuxkart-data (= 0.4.0-4.1ubuntu1); however:05:02
mneisen  Version of tuxkart-data on system is 0.4.0-4.1build1.05:02
mneisendpkg: error processing tuxkart (--configure):05:02
mneisen dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:02
mneisendpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of courier-authlib-userdb:05:02
mneisen courier-authlib-userdb depends on courier-authlib; however:05:02
mneisen  Package courier-authlib is not installed.05:02
mneisen courier-authlib-userdb depends on courier-authlib (>= 0.58); however:05:02
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mneisen  Package courier-authlib is not installed.05:02
mneisendpkg: error processing courier-authlib-userdb (--configure):05:02
abattoir!pastebin | mneisen05:02
ubotumneisen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:02
mneisen dependency problems - leaving unconfigured05:02
mneisenErrors were encountered while processing:05:02
mneisen tuxkart05:02
mneisen courier-authlib-userdb05:02
mneisenok ok.05:02
abattoirmneisen: i asked you to pastebin it, not paste it here05:02
mneisensorry for that.05:02
mneisenhere we go again: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33929/05:03
abattoirmneisen: try manually installnig courier-authlib-userdb and tuxkart-data05:04
abattoirmneisen: or you could remove them and install newer package later(after the upgrade to edgy)05:04
mneisenabattoir: I tried removing them.05:05
mneisenI will *pastebin* :-D the output.05:05
abattoir:)05:05
LjLmneisen you have some version mismatches05:06
LjLpastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list05:06
mneisenhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33931/05:06
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LjLah wait, the courier-* problem is a known bug i think05:06
mneisenLjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33933/05:06
mneisenLjL: OK, is there some doc on the WWW where I can read up on that bug?05:07
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LjLmneisen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/6461505:07
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Cuddles_in_KYmorning all.05:11
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voicu!mail05:11
ubotumail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com05:11
voicu!sendmail05:11
ubotusendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB05:11
voicu!exim405:11
ubotuexim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.62-2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB05:11
voicuwhich one would you suggest?05:11
voicuexmi or sendmail?05:11
voicu*exim05:11
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voicuanyone?05:12
Cuddles_in_KYi'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this?05:12
fdovingvoicu: i'd recommend postfix.05:12
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fdoving!away | frankx05:13
ubotufrankx: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines05:13
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voicuthanks fdoving05:13
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foxhound31hello every time i try to use service command it doesnt seem to work05:14
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mneisenLjL: Thank you so much, this really solved my issues.05:14
foxhound31as in service iptables restart05:14
mneisenHope I can repay you one day.05:14
foxhound31just comes back ands says command doesnt exist05:14
krikrihi05:14
foxhound31what am i doing wrong here05:14
krikriis it possible to setup java on kubuntu please ?05:15
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Jucato!java | krikri05:15
ubotukrikri: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:15
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krikrithanks05:15
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Cuddles_in_KYcan someone please help me with this ndiswrapper error?05:19
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ChewieHi05:21
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Cuddles_in_KYanyone?05:21
ubuntuHello05:21
ubuntuZna neko Srpski pizda vam materina????\05:22
ubuntu:))))05:22
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RaNgOyo\05:22
RaNgObitange05:22
RaNgOmamicu vam vasu05:22
RaNgO:)05:22
ChewieAnybody with kubuntu "feisty" is having trouble with acute accents in every KDE application?05:22
RaNgOVOLIM IVANU!!!!05:22
JucatoEnglish only, please05:23
JucatoChewie: you could ask in #ubuntu+105:23
ChewieThanks Jucato, I'll try05:23
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mkasterdoes anyone know where i can learn linux?05:24
RaNgOEnglish I do not know05:24
RaNgO:)05:24
Jucatomkaster: ah good start would be the Desktop Guide included in Kubuntu05:24
mneisenpity is that :-D05:24
JucatoK Menu -> Help05:24
RaNgOWhy?05:24
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JucatoRaNgO: this is the English channel.05:24
RaNgOIt's cool enyway05:25
RaNgO:)05:25
mneisenBecause you were asked to speak English.05:25
RaNgOlala05:25
RadiantFirethe desktop guide is included in kubuntu05:25
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RadiantFirekonqueror -> k desktop guide05:25
RaNgOjucato fack you :)\05:25
RaNgOhehe05:25
Morrisseyhehe05:25
RaNgOenglish only you say :)05:25
LjL!language | RaNgO05:25
ubotuRaNgO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:25
Jucato!english05:25
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
LjLRaNgO: there are national channels. what is your language?05:25
Jucatolol.. :)05:25
Morrissey!japanese05:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about japanese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:25
MorrisseyI should learn japanese05:26
Jucatohm...05:26
Morrisseyhow much FPS are you getting with benchmark?05:26
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RaNgOWhere are you from? (every one)05:27
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LjL!offtopic | rango05:27
uboturango: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:27
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RaNgOaha05:27
RaNgOok man05:27
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gecekonduS.a05:28
RaNgOwhat are you know about Kubuntu?\05:28
gecekondunothin05:28
gecekonduwhat is it05:29
LjL!kubuntu05:29
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE05:29
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RaNgOCan I get free kubuntu CD?05:29
LjL!shipit05:29
ubotushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.05:29
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RaNgOcool05:30
RaNgOtnx LJL05:30
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ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.05:30
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Cuddles_in_KYcan someone -please- help me?05:32
defrysk!someone05:32
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:32
Cuddles_in_KYdefrysk, i've asked twice, and gotten -no- response.05:33
krikriwhen i use the installation software i see something that i cant clic to setup it what is the problem :/ ?05:33
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zzz_What is you question?05:33
zzz_your question..05:33
Cuddles_in_KYi'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this?05:33
Cuddles_in_KYthe network card is using the wpndis51 driver (wavelan 1200).05:33
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defryskCuddles_in_KY, be patient, as son there is someone that knows you will get your help/answer05:34
defrysksoon*05:34
zzz_What does $ modinfo ndiswrappper output. Does "invalid argument" refer to an argument given to modprobe?05:35
zzz_(Sorry for the typos.)05:36
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zzz_Cuddles_in_KY ?05:37
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, ''fatal: error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): invalid argument''05:37
Cuddles_in_KYsorry, had to type it in by hand.05:37
zzz_What command do you use to get that output? Just "modprobe ndiswrapper" ?05:38
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, exactly.05:38
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zzz_I am not very experienced with ndiswrapper... I understand that one needs to configure ndiswrapper before loading the module, right?05:39
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, correct, and i have done that.05:40
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Cuddles_in_KYndiswrapper -i wpndis51.inf worked perfectly.05:40
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zzz_Could it be that the driver you are using right now is not compatible with ndiswrapper? Could you try another driver, maybe from another vendor who uses the same chipset?05:41
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MorrisseyWich driver should I use with ATI Radeon 9000? For now I have the "radeon" drivers, and beryl works, just kind of slow ...<--- FOR XGL/BERYL05:42
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Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, that's part of the problem. no other vendors use that chipset.05:43
zzz_It may be that an e-mail to the ndiswrapper users' mailing list is in order...05:43
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, the information i'm using came from here, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#Q05:44
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fibonacciIs it really necessary to install all of PIM , if all I want is KAddresbook, Akregator and KMail ?05:44
Cuddles_in_KYand i've tried emailing that user, with no joy. the email address bounces.05:44
cloakableDoes anybody here have experience with Kommander?05:44
fibonacciI mean I want them bundled in Kontakt05:44
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Dr_williscloakable,  I installed it.. but dont think i ever actually used it. Lol05:45
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JucatoKommander and Kontact???05:46
Dr_willisKommander. :)05:46
Jucatoyeah, I meant, he wanted Kommander bundled with Kontact?05:46
cloakableDr_willis: Heh. I'm trying to make a frontend for [meta]  tracker. It works, but getting the results as a tree is frankly ugly :)05:46
fibonaccinonono05:46
Jucatolol05:47
Jucatosorry, not reading straight05:47
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zzz_Cuddles_in_KY, I would try ndiswrapper-general@lists.sourceforge.net for a possible solution.05:47
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zzz_I am sorry for being unable to help you.05:47
elias_ is anybody using vmware server on edgy sucessfully? I was having some problems with it: https://launchpad.net/bugs/6477305:48
Jucatofibonacci: I think you can install kontact, then remove the other parts you don't want.05:48
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, thank you for at least trying.05:48
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fibonacciJucato:  okidoki, cheers man.05:49
krikriwhat does it mean when in the add/suppression of software the name of something is in grey ?05:49
Dr_williselias_,  i use it all the time..  the other day someone was having issues installing it. Due i think to him having vmware-player installed beforhand.05:49
zzz_Cuddles_in_KY, One more thing: Are you really really sure that you have compiled ndiswrapper properly?05:49
elias_Dr_willis: I had 100% CPU load when I tried first (right after edgy release or just before it)05:50
elias_But if it works for you I am happy!05:50
Dr_williselias_,  i had issues with it in the beta/prerelease of edgy05:50
elias_Which version are you using?05:50
elias_Dr_willis: So it might be resolved now, great!05:50
elias_By the way, can you use it full screen?05:51
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, i installed it from apt actually.05:51
Dr_willisusing whatever the latest free vmware server version is. I did a CLEAN install.. i never upgrade.05:51
Dr_willisive used it fullscreen befor.. not tried it lately05:51
elias_this is the one beaty about vmware player05:51
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zzz_Cuddles_in_KY, Have you tried compiling a newer version manually?05:52
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, not yet, but i will if i have to.05:52
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zzz_Cuddles_in_KY, I would be glad to help with that...05:53
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zzz_[Out to dinner for 10-20 minutes...] 05:54
Cuddles_in_KYzzz_, honestly, i was just going to give it one last shot before i toss the card into the lake. it was a ''gimme'', and even has trouble in windows.05:55
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elias_Dr_willis: do you have any idea why I am having troubles to get assigned an IP on a vmware vitual interface which is a WLAN interface connected to a Linksys AP on the host OS?06:04
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Dr_willisIve never used vmware and wireelss cards. I dont even use wireless cards any more.06:05
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fibonacci./ubuntu06:05
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fibonaccihehe06:05
sYniehey there ... i got a 1 GB USB pen. I installed a damn small linux, that works perfect. but I can't write data on the stick like changing password, installing software, except installing them into the image file. ist there any possibility to handle a usb pen like a hdd, for example to install a linux on it directly ?06:05
Dr_willisI think the DSL homepage has details on doing it that way.. and theres a LinuxPendrive site that has info/scripts to set them up also.06:06
jseattlecan someone help me figure why firefox 2.0 keeps crashing in edgy eft?06:06
Dr_willisjseattle,  as a guess...  Flash Issues06:06
sYniedr willis, i just found infos about installing the image06:07
jseattlebut it does it on konqueror and galeon as well06:07
Dr_willis'it does it' ? all 3 of those browsers crash?06:07
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jseattlei try to watch local tv news and once it's time for flash to start, it crashes06:08
jseattlei have dapper cd and firefox, flash, etc work fine, just on edgy eft does it crash06:08
Dr_willistry installing the latest flash 9 beta06:09
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Jucato!flash906:10
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html06:10
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hrp2171hello.  i need to find a different link for a default repository: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main   I was trying to install something that depends on thunderbird and i keep getting a 404 error06:14
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Adunhello... can somebody tell me... did kubuntu format windows partitions (ia have one FAT32 with WinXP on it and one NTFS for other shits:)... 1 partition with slackware on it (i want to format that partition and install kubuntu on it) and one swap partition... ) i'm ot step 5 where i select some partitions... so if i select the partition with slackware and the swap partition... will it format the other 2 partitions ? :/06:24
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d3imuddahKDE suxx06:27
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Dr_willisAdun,  it pays to pay very very carefull attention :) i found that out the hard way. You 'may' want to manually delete the slack and swap partitions so they are unallocated. then let the isntaller  auto-allocate/use unallocated drive space.06:27
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Dr_willisAdun,  ive manually selected partitions to be / and  told the isntaller to format them.06:27
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d3imuddah#ubuntu06:28
hrp2171yeah, i lost my K menu and the other stuff on the taskbar.  somehow i still see the icons ive added to the panel.06:28
defryskAdun, if you can install slackware I'm sure you can handle the prtitioner ok ubuntu06:28
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hrp2171oh well, im switching to xfce anyhow.06:29
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reonHow do I correlate sda numbers to (hd0,x) numbers ?06:29
Adundefrysk i'm not sure if it formats the windows partitions... that's why i've asked you :)06:29
AdunDr_willis i have to format them first or just unallocate them ?06:29
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defryskAdun, easyes way to install is with the alternative install cd imho06:30
Dr_willisAdun,  if you are going to 'delete the partitiosn' there sno need to format them first. :)06:30
defryskAdun, if you open the partitioner of the live cd you can see the properties of each partition06:30
defrysklive-cd = alternative cd sorry06:30
defryskAdun, and what Dr_willis sais :006:31
Adunthanks to all of you... :)06:31
defryskAdun, just follow instructions and when the partitioner pops up select the manual way06:32
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defryskand delete all linux partitions makes the rest dead easy as Dr_willis said06:32
Adun:) thanks06:33
defryskAdun, installer of alternative cd rules :)06:33
Adun:D06:34
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slow-motionhallo06:36
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blainnslow-motion -- Howdy06:36
slow-motionhi blainn06:37
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blainnThere are folks here, but I think they wait for questions to show themselves.06:38
blainnLike, in a minute or two, I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and I think they will bring a brief flurry of responses (because they are very easy questions) and then it'll settle down.06:38
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zzz_What are your questions, blainn?06:41
zzz_(Heh!)06:41
blainnMy first question:  Does the kubuntu installer allow me to install over my existing Xandros OCE install, preserving my /home tree?06:41
blainnSee, it's working.06:42
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zzz_Is your /home on a different partition?06:42
blainnI think I moved it to another physical drive, mounted from my root partition.06:42
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zzz_I don't understand. Is /home on a different partition? Try "grep /home /etc/fstab"06:43
zzz_Or even better, "grep /home /etc/mtab"06:43
blainnSecond question:  I heard a rumor that Firefox isn't available under kubuntu (or that it's a sub-2.0 version, or something like that).  Is there anything funky about FF and kubuntu?06:43
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zzz_I am using Edgy Eft right now and I installed Firefox 2.0.06:44
blainnzzz_ I get a blank line to grep /home /etc/mtab06:44
zzz_(I am using Kubuntu 6.10, to be clear.)06:44
zzz_So it is very likely that /home is not on a separate partition... Then you might try the following:06:45
blainnI ask the first question because my install of Xandros over a Knoppix hd-install moved my /home to /oldhome06:45
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blainnThat was an option at install -- it also could just wipe the partition and install fresh.06:45
zzz_Use a live cd to delete everything except the /home directory. Then use the "Alternate" installation CD to make sure that the partition's contents are preserved during the installation.06:46
blainnAt that point, it'd be easier to tarball /home and do a full install anyhow.06:47
zzz_Correct.06:47
blainnAh, well.06:47
zzz_Sorry...06:47
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blainnHey, the right answer isn't always the easy answer.06:47
blainnI'll take the  right one every time.06:48
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blainnThanks for your help.06:52
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elias_ what is vmware-mui for?06:55
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fibonacciHow do I make "cd.." be equivalent with "cd .." ? (note the space, bloody anoying having to put the space in all the time).06:55
zzz_Try the following: alias cd..="cd .."06:55
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fibonaccicheers06:56
zzz_You might want to append that line to your /etc/bash.bashrc file.06:56
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fabian_alguien conoce de sintonizadoras de tv?07:09
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griffjonAfternoon and happy post-thanksgiving to y'all07:09
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griffjonI'm having an annoying time finding a way to convince my poor old Dell cpi to standby (suspend to disk works great)07:10
griffjonbut the standby feature wakes up after a few seconds due to my orinoco silver wireless card (i.e. it works right if the wireless card is out)07:11
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euwaexwitam07:12
euwaexkto mnie pomoze w instalacji na kubuntu firefoxa?07:12
griffjonI've enabled power mgmt on the wireless configurations, but it doesn't seem to take/have an effect with standby.  Can I add something to the standby script to depower the wifi card?07:12
BombTronanyone have trouble with amarok cover manager07:12
BombTron?07:12
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StarenWow, people!07:12
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BombTronword up07:13
euwaexpocztkujacy jestem wiec sie nie dziwcie07:13
LjL!pl07:13
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:13
BombTron!amarok07:13
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org07:13
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StarenSo. I once had this laptop, a Win95 computer with a 40GB HDD. Sadly, its long life was brought to an end when an unexpected short downward flight ended in a broken screen. The rest is intact, though. Now I've gotten a new laptop, whihc has Win XP and a 20GB (ick!) HDD. But, I've recently obtained a 100GB HDD, and here's what I want to do...07:14
StarenCopy both over onto the one drive, _and_ add a linux partition for KUBUNTU, with WinXP/Win95/Linux tri-boot.07:15
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StarenCan I do this? How big should the linux partition be?07:15
xwolf-!gcc07:15
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:15
xwolf-!nemacs07:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nemacs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:15
xwolf-!emacs07:15
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:15
BombTronStaren: partition can be as big as you want it, get a usb external hard drive housing07:15
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griffjonStaren: I run kubuntu on a laptop with 6gb total HDD, it runs in ~4 of that for the lower end of your range07:15
BombTronStaren: then get a normal size to mini hard drive adaptor07:16
elias_why is it that I can get an IP via DHCP when plugged in via ethernet but not via WLAN with neither VMWARE player nor server? I configured both as bridged straight through.07:16
BombTroncreate partitions on the big one and then start moving stuff over07:16
griffjonWin95 takes up very little space, too (remember, it once shipped on~25  floppies)07:16
BombTroneasier with a desktop07:16
StarenErr, all of the HDDs involved are laptop drives.07:16
nagyvhello! I would like to try out the SeconLife alpha client, it starts without any problems, but the majority of the fonts is unreadable. (p.ex: the login prompt)07:16
BombTronyea so you'll want a usb hard drive external housing07:17
Dr_willisnagyv,  odd.. it works for me.07:17
Dr_willisnagyv,  you just installed it today?07:17
nagyvDr_willis: yes07:17
BombTronStaren: I would put the big one in the laptop first07:17
BombTrons07:17
StarenSo is copying over the FAT32 partition as is, assigning some minimum amount of space to the linux partition, and then giving the rest to NTFS for WinXP (probably my primary OS at this point -- I want to try linux extensively before moving over)07:18
BombTronStaren:  then instal windows on it07:18
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Dr_willisthere may be a new version that has an issue. OR it may be some extra fonts need to be installed.07:18
nagyvactually, I just selected my login name, and then I could see it07:18
Croupierhey im having a little problem changing the way the dates are shown in the imendio planner07:18
Croupierthey use the weeks but i want the day like mon,tues,07:18
Croupieror the date07:18
BombTronStaren: 10 or 15 gigs for linux should be pleanty07:18
Starenthe best solution here?07:18
Dr_willisStaren,  theres tools that let XP read/write to ext2/3 partitions. so no need for a fat32 'data exchange' partition.07:18
StarenOk.07:18
Croupierany ideas what planner would do that07:18
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nagyvDr_willis: there is a symlink for kochi-mincho which I uninstalled before, but now it is installed again07:18
StarenFAT32 is for Win95.07:18
StarenThough I didn't know XP could use ext3. Hmmmmmmm.07:18
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Dr_willisrun win95 in a vmware session. :P is an easy way to have windows and linux both. heh.07:19
gtwy95?07:19
Dr_willisgoogle for ext2 ifs windows xp07:19
gtwyis it even worth it?07:19
BombTronStaren: like the other guy said there is stuff on source forge for accesing ext3 from xp07:19
gtwywtf even runs on 95?07:19
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Dr_willisI use win95 in vmware for a few apps.07:19
StarenWell, since I already have it, and I have plenty of space, why not?07:19
Dr_willisPSPvideo9 works. :)07:19
StarenWin95 will run old dos games with much less hassle than winxp does. I'll probably barely ever use it, but nice to have.07:19
nagyvDr_willis: it is really weird, I just tried to log in using version 1.13.0.5, and it sais that there is a newer version. Impossible!07:19
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gtwyStaren: wolf3d, doom07:20
gtwy?07:20
StarenThanks for the advice guys!07:20
BombTronStaren: install big main drive first then install windows then linux on the smaller partition then start copying stuff over07:20
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XVampireX_Dr_willis: You use the partition editor? I want to know why people make a reiserfs partition anymore07:20
XVampireX_Dr_willis: Sorry, I'm asking you as I remember I talked to you a whle ago :) I need someone who's not a newbie07:20
Dr_willisnagyv,  i get a message 1.12.3.6 is aviliable.07:20
StarenWell, Doom's been ported. I have an old NES emulator that has all my old savegames... and what if I want to play Wing Commander or something?07:20
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Dr_willisXVampireX_,  ive never used reiserfs. :) but its not too hard to use them i guess.07:21
nagyvis it newer than 1.13.0.5? 1.12<1.13 isn't it?07:21
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XVampireXHmm07:21
Dr_willis!find nes07:21
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ubotuFound: fortunes-min, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon, gtk2-engines, gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks (and 123 others)07:21
XVampireXAnyone more knowledgeable?07:21
XVampireX!reiserfs07:21
ubotureiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.07:21
Dr_willisStaren|Idle,  theres plenty of emulators out.07:21
xwolf-!wine07:21
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:21
Dr_willisnagyv,  considerng  the 2nd live prog for linux is alpha. :) gotta expect some issues.07:22
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Dr_willishttp://forums.secondlife.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=26307:22
griffjonside question: if iwconfig eth0 txpower off doesn't turn off a wireless card, how can you "unmount07:23
griffjon"07:23
griffjon?07:23
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Dr_willisYou dont mount network cards. :)07:23
zzz_:)07:23
Dr_willisremove the module perhaps.07:23
Bubba_Gumpi'm looking for a linux statistics program, any ideas ?07:23
Dr_willisBubba_Gump,  freshmeat.net07:23
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griffjoncheck pspp07:23
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griffjonBubba: pspp is a command-line OSS version of spss.  It's a bit.... rough around the edges07:24
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XVampireXBubba_Gump: Spreadsheet program?07:24
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XVampireXBubba_Gump: What kind of statistics?07:25
ZarephathHow in the heck do I tell freenode server to list available channels?07:25
Bubba_GumpStandard deviation, z-scores, means this sorta thing07:25
Bubba_Gumplike spss07:25
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Dr_willisZarephath,  that would be a irc client setting I think.07:25
Dr_willis the /list command is often full of features07:26
Dr_willisget ready for a huge list.07:26
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XVampireXOh07:26
XVampireXDon't know then07:26
fibonacciIn SuSE there is Yast, in kubuntu there is ? Help please.07:26
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EmessSystem Settings07:27
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Emessor did you mean for package management?07:27
Guardianhi what should i install to get flash 9 playing ?07:27
fibonacciSystem Settings, from what package ?07:28
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ZarephathDr_Willis: Well Kubuntu PPC I have not menu lists at the top?07:28
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EmessGuardian: make sure you have universe and multiverse, then package is called flashplayer907:28
Guardianok07:28
Dr_willisZarephath,  Huh?07:28
Bubba_Gump!flash907:28
ubotuYou can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html07:28
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Dr_willisfibonacci,  ubuntus use the apt-get system of packjage management07:28
Dr_willis!apt07:28
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:28
ZarephathYeah X-chat isn't displaying the drop down menu choices at the top of the window..07:29
Guardianemess: i don't have such a flashplayer9 package, universe and multiverse are enabled07:29
BluesKajmencoder is missing a dependency or is being blocked , i'm not sure :  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxdecore0-binary07:29
fibonacciDr_willis: Yeah, I got that down. But where can I configure Services at Run Levels , and so on...07:29
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EmessGuardian: might not be on them yet, try looking in adept for flashplayer and see what it has, otherwise go to macromedia's flash site and it should have info07:30
Dr_willisTheres a icon in the settings/cntrollcenter i see for the SysV run level stuff07:30
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BluesKajtried to remove the offending file but it can't be found E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxdecore0-binary07:31
Dr_willisfibonacci,  add the  'control center' applet to your taskbar. makes finding the settings menu/icons easier.07:31
Dr_willisnagyv,  remind me - WHY is second life 'popular' ?07:31
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nagyvDr_willis: I don't know it yet :)07:32
Bubba_GumpDr_willis: how come we have system settings and kcontrol ?07:32
fibonacciDr_willis: Well that's on a session level is it not? I want to modify services at all run levels...07:32
zzz_BluesKaj, how about trying to remove the offending package? (libdivxdecore0-binary)07:32
StarenHmm, this NTFS-3G thing means that Linux can use NTFS just fine?07:32
HawkwindAbsolutely not07:32
BluesKajzzz_, ya think ?07:32
HawkwindLinux can *not* write to NTFS07:32
Dr_willisnagyv,  i think its one of those 'sales men selling stuff to other salesmen' sort of gimmic.. I dont see much to actually 'do' in the game.07:32
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HawkwindStaren: If you attempt it, chances are you will lose your data.  It's not something we support here at all07:32
Dr_willis!ntfs07:32
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse07:32
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nagyvDr_willis: when you are studying away 2000kms away from your family and friends, then secondlife seems to be a good amusement for a saturday night :)07:32
StarenDr. willis - It's like IRC with graphics, and you can have stuff. Sort of a fusion of chatting and MMORPGs.07:33
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Dr_willisnagyv,  i can find other things to do... :)07:33
StarenThough "Graphical MUCK" is a description I prefer.07:33
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Dr_willisStaren,  it just seems to be one Huge Shopping Mall/Gambling Casino/S&M parlor to me.07:33
Dr_willis:)07:33
StarenCorrect. There is also a lot of chat, but the true gems are rare and far between.07:33
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StarenCheck it out next time someone holds a game creation contest.07:34
Dr_willishere i am dancing on a 'pole' dressed up as little red riding hood... theres got to be some laws getting broke there!07:34
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Dr_willisStaren,  i read about the NOAA weather 'building' but cant find it.. saw the DELL computer store on there..07:34
dmhouseHi guys. I'm trying to work with my Sony Ericsson 750i on my Kubuntu Dapper installation. Plugging the device in works, but clicking on the '64M Removable Media' icon that appears on my desktop brings up an 'unexpected error'.07:34
BluesKajzzz_, nope din't work :07:34
BluesKajErrors were encountered while processing:07:34
BluesKaj /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb07:34
StarenThis is why I don't spend much time there. Still, sometimes people do things genuinely creative or interesting, like that guy who built the schizophrenia building... I still gotta check that out sometime.07:35
dmhousedmesg had interesting things to say: http://paste.lisp.org/display/3068407:35
StarenDo a find for it, willis.07:35
sampo-Does anybody know, what are default port for streaming video?07:35
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wildchildhas anyone any ideas why kaffeine doesn't wanna start by clicking on it ?07:35
ExilantAnyone knows how to enter the a-ring(/) in kubuntu 6.10 without it on the keyboard? Compose-a-a or compose-a-* doesn't work07:35
dmhouseSpecifically the line 'Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods'. Is this likely to be the cause of the problem? How do I do what it says?07:35
wildchildin terminal:07:35
wildchildq@umbrella:~$ kaffeine07:35
wildchildq@umbrella:~$07:35
Exilantwildchild: perhaps its still running07:35
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zzz_BluezKaj, try to install libdivxcore0-binary again and then try uninstall it.07:36
wildchildIExilant how?07:36
Exilantkill them all "killall kaffeine"07:36
StarenAlas, my laptop is now my main computer and does not run SL, so I can't spend much time searching for cool things in SL.07:36
Exilantworks here sometimes07:36
wildchildExilant: wow07:36
wildchildExilant: how did u know it's still running07:36
wildchildI mean..07:36
wildchildI almoust start computer..07:36
Exilantif it ran before and crashed...had that sometimes07:37
Bubba_Gumpsecond life seems to be a big distraction07:37
wildchildk07:37
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sampo-Exilant: I got same proglem and I cann't kill one kaffeine process, even if I change to root07:37
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Exilantsampo-: those unkillable processes are weird07:38
StarenSo what about this NTFS-3G thing?07:38
Dr_willisStaren,  i hear it works.. but im not brave enough to try it.07:39
Dr_willisStaren,  i just let XP read/write to the ext2 partitions07:39
StarenHmmmm.07:39
Dr_willisi got a spare ext2 drive i let be used as my 'shared' data drive07:39
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newbiehi07:40
StarenWell, are there any advantages of NTFS over ext2?07:40
newbiei have a problem to install kubuntu using scsi cd-rom drives07:40
newbiesince the controller seems to be non-capable of booting from the cd-rom07:41
StarenMax volume size is irrelevant in this case since it's a 100GB drive.07:41
newbieso i decided to download an ubuntu-boot disk07:41
newbiehowever the boot menu doesn't show up the scsi devices07:41
Emesswhats the apt-get command to downgrade a package?07:41
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newbieanyone who has an idea how to get things working?07:42
nagyvnewbie: click on them, could you be a bit more precise, please07:42
apokryphosEmess: remove the new one, then install the old one07:42
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newbienagyv: on what menu point should i click07:43
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Dr_willisStaren,  none that i know of.  depends on what you are wanting to do i guess.07:43
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ubuntubye07:43
Dr_willis!apt07:43
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nagyvnewbie: what would you like to do?07:44
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nagyvDr_willis: I gave up with the seconlife client (after a reboot)07:44
newbienagyv: i want to install kubuntu or ubuntu07:44
nagyvnewbie: do you have already the cd/dvd07:45
nagyv?07:45
Bubba_Gumpwhich is better - gnome or kde ?07:45
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nagyvBubba_Gump: you are in the kde channel :)07:45
RadiantFireof course kde, silly!07:45
RadiantFire;-)07:45
StarenWell, are there advantages of ext2/3 over NTFS?07:45
Bubba_Gump:D07:45
newbienagyv: i have ubuntu and kubuntu cds . but the scsi devices don't boot07:45
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nagyvnewbie: what you mean by "the scsi devices don't boot"?07:46
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newbiei have 2 cd burners and one cd rom in my computer, all of them scsi-based07:46
newbienagyv: the scsi controller recognizes them but i can't get the cd rom booted07:47
nagyvnewbie: aha, probably you should set up the booting sequence in the bios07:47
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BluesKajzzz_,, nope ..i'm going around ina vicious circle bwtween these 2 libs  ,libdivxencore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb ..and libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0...one can't be used cuz it tries to over write the other yet neithe r can ve removed07:47
newbienagyv: i already tried several comfigurations in the bios but nothing works07:48
BluesKajneither can be  removed07:48
Naradahow do you disable a kernel module ?07:48
Naradalike agpgart07:48
defryskNarada, blacklist it ?07:48
zzz_Try --force ...07:48
newbienagyv: if i boot from a boot disk, it only recognizes the floppy and hard disk drives07:49
nagyvnewbie: there are two possibilities: 1. the cd you wrote is not bootable (there was a problem whan you burned it), 2. your computer is set up to boot from the hard disk07:49
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Naradadefrysk: how07:49
Dr_willisnagyv,  i got it working.. and to be honest... its just... dull..07:49
Dr_willisnagyv,  ive had more fun in irc chat rooms.07:49
defryskadd it to the blacklist file07:49
nagyvnewbie: you should boot from the cdrom somehow07:49
nagyvDr_willis: do you know a good joke, I am a bit bored :)07:50
newbienagyv: how?07:50
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Dr_willisnagyv,  imbored.com07:50
Dr_willis:P07:50
BluesKajH enedds to set his boot sequence to cdrom in the bios07:50
Bubba_Gumpnagyv: read a book :)07:50
Dr_willisI knwo a good game demo for ya.. its a comercial game but the demo has about 40 levels.07:50
defryskNarada, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist07:50
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Naradadefrysk: where is that07:50
nagyvnewbie: do you have any other boot cds around? just to check wheather it's your bios setting or the cd07:50
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Naradadefrysk: k07:51
newbienewbie: i will try suse linux07:51
Dr_willisnagyv,  http://www.grubbygames.com/fizzball/07:51
voicuwhy is ls `yes` bad? found it on bash, seems to take a lot of memory...07:51
Dr_willisnagyv,  after playing it for an hr or 2.. tempted to buy it. :)07:51
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voicumaybe an offtopic channel, huh?07:52
nagyvnewbie: do you have it, or will just download it?07:52
BluesKajnewbie, do you know how to access your system BIOS ?07:52
Dr_willisnagyv,  go to #debian and ask them why Ubuntu is better.. :) that will get some interesting responses.07:52
nagyvDr_willis: :)07:53
newbieblueskaj: yes, i use computers since 15 years07:53
mimoshhi to all07:53
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Dr_willisI got comptuers that are 15+ years old.07:53
BluesKajwell using a nick like newbie isn't exactly the right one if you don't want dumb questions then07:54
defryskNarada, to stop the module now use sudo modprobe -r <module>07:54
newbieblueskaj: i'm only a newbie in kubuntu07:54
mimoshCan I ask you a question07:55
Naradadefrysk: k07:55
mimoshabout starting services in kubuntu07:55
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defryskNarada, not sure if kernel supports it tho07:55
defryskbut should work fine07:55
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intelikeyi just found out that i was kin to my mother...07:55
Dr_willisintelikey,  thats legal in some states.07:56
Dr_willis:)07:56
intelikeyoh.  i mean   good morning07:56
intelikey:)07:56
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mimoshI have installed name server on my Kubuntu box but I don't know how to start it automaticly on startup07:56
mimoshanyone07:56
Dr_willissystem admin -> runlevel editor   perhaps.07:57
Dr_willisif it installed.. i though it should start up automaticially.07:57
Dr_willisbut ive never messed with running my own nameserver. so it may differ07:57
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intelikeyor hos do you start it manually      add that to /etc/rc.local     even07:57
thunder_stormhi everywhere07:58
intelikeyhow ^07:58
mimoshI added manually to rc.local but I want it to start automaticly07:58
thunder_stormi use kubuntu 6.1007:58
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thunder_stormand have optimized my font-look with help of the german wiki07:59
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thunder_stormthe fonts looks good - but not in OpenOffice07:59
thunder_stormi have made a screenshot - can you help me?07:59
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intelikeyDr_willis are you kidding... *buntu is moving away from users actually doing any admin stuff....07:59
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Bubba_Gumpthunder_storm: have your fonts one with anti-aliasing ?07:59
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thunder_stormplease look here: http://www.braier.net/1/screenshot1.png08:00
Dr_willisintelikey,  so its nit just admin icons in there.. all the setting icons are in there.08:00
thunder_stormi cannot find an solution for that08:00
sandra_hi08:00
jorikhow can i make a directory so that everyone can put files in em ?08:00
Dr_willismakes it much easier to find the stuff.. but egads.. it uses 'ghasp' the old control-center! :)08:00
Dr_willisjorik,  everyone as in everyone on the local machine?or everyone on the network08:01
jorikDr_willis: i got a portable HD, it has ext2 on it, i can't write to it08:01
thunder_stormBubba_Gump: can you understand my problem?08:01
Dr_willisjorik,  mount it.. make a dir on it.. chown THAT dir to be owned by the user/users08:02
intelikeyjorik sudo chmod 777 /dir08:02
Dr_willisthats how i do it.. i dont chown the mount point. :)08:02
intelikeyjorik or if that's M$ format   mount it with umask=00008:02
Bubba_Gumpthunder_storm: yes08:02
Bubba_Gumpthunder_storm: arial is a lousy font :)08:02
sandra_I have got the prob that I can't use adept in write mode as some app seems to be using the packaging system database. This occours right after reboot and using ps aux | grep apt* I only get the apt indexer listed08:02
sandra_any ideas how to solve this?08:03
Bubba_Gumpthunder_storm: try deja vu sans08:03
jorikthanks :o)08:03
thunder_stormBubba_Gump: ah, its only a font-problem? why?08:03
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zzz_Does anyone see error messages similar to: "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" ?08:10
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zzz_I have to use "chmod 777 /dev/null" to solve this problem.08:11
intelikeyjust when i thught i had major char/block addressing figured out i find that there are 1432 exceptions to the 5 rules.....    hmmmm08:11
FFForeverwhat dose kubuntu come with?, grub or lilo?08:11
zzz_GRUB of course...08:11
intelikeyzzz_ i have08:11
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FFForeverand how do i change the splash screen?, in the grub conf?08:12
intelikeyFFForever it comes with both but installs grub by default08:12
zzz_intelikey, Do you have any information regarding the cause of that?08:12
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intelikeyzzz_ heh yeah the perms are set incorrectly on /dev/null  lol   no all joking aside.   i think it's in the way udev is configured    i just added a line to change the perms in /etc/rc.local and for got about it.08:13
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FFForeverso how do i change splash?08:14
intelikeyzzz_ probably in /etc/default08:14
zzz_The problem is that it usually occurs after package installation/removal.08:15
zzz_rc.local is run during boot however...08:15
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intelikeyyep and will correct it upon each boot08:15
intelikeyFFForever grub wont work for me so i can't answer that.08:16
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intelikeyFFForever you can ask in #ubuntu   because that is not kde specific08:16
intelikeyabout 3 times as many users in there.08:17
dr0fnax!xgl08:17
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:17
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FFForever!splash screen08:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:18
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intelikey!splash08:18
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.08:18
heinkel_111FFForever: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3034108:18
heinkel_111intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3034108:19
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intelikey!i08:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:19
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Dheeraj_khi i am not able to play mp3 on kubuntu. i have installed  all the codecs ugly mad win32 etc but still no luck08:20
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intelikey!mp308:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:21
Dheeraj_kwats the sollution?08:21
Staren!isthereanythingyoucan'tanswer?08:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about isthereanythingyoucan'tanswer? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:22
apokryphosDheeraj_k: but did you install the ones mentioned there?08:22
apokryphosDheeraj_k: check that first link08:22
DralaFiHi. I decided to upgrade the kernel, and also got rid of the initrd. I copied the udev, hal and dbus scripts from initrd and I do believe that they are all running, but now I don't get the Windows-XP-like popup window in KDE when I plug in USB storage devices.08:22
DralaFiCan anyone help?08:22
Dheeraj_kyes every thing including xine08:23
Dheeraj_kall the player except amarok is able to run mp308:23
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apokryphosDheeraj_k: what's the error you get?08:24
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apokryphosintelikey: but then you'd just have to reinstall it :P08:24
intelikeyapokryphos never have yet08:25
apokryphoswhat do you prefer?08:25
intelikeyvlc08:25
apokryphosfor music? Can't imagine it providing the best experience08:25
fibonacciamaroK is really, really nice, get the new version 1.4.408:25
intelikeyno for music  sox  for vidio vlc08:26
apokryphosubotu: info sox08:26
ubotusox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB08:26
intelikeyi don't like amarok08:26
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apokryphoswhy?08:26
intelikeyi don't know.  it reminds me of windows media player maybe... not sure08:27
apokryphos:/08:27
intelikeyit's arbitrary.   i don't need a reason.08:27
fibonacciintelikey: Not likely, Windows Media Player reminds you of amaroK.08:27
Dheeraj_kit is not giving any error08:27
apokryphoswhat happens then08:28
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Dheeraj_kthat is the main problem08:28
apokryphoswhat happens then08:28
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Dheeraj_kbest feature of amarok is it save the play list in mysql satabase08:29
intelikeyfibonacci yea i think it did.   it had that stupid cpu/ram eating psycadelik vidio thingy going on....  that reminds me of something in windows....  :)08:29
arriesphow can i install a scaner?08:29
parker`Okay, ever since I did a flash install (via Firefox installer) firefox just crashes everytime I try to load a page. This is very frustrating. :\08:29
fibonacciIf you had said iTunes, perhaps, but imho, nothing like WMP08:29
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intelikeyalso the fact that it expects net access,  that's a no go imo.08:30
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Dheeraj_kguys which player do u like most for playing songs?08:31
ubuntuhi/salut08:31
ubuntuuh08:31
fibonacciamaroK08:31
ubuntu/nick Dj-Serpen08:31
apokryphosDheeraj_k: amarok is the most popular and default on kubuntu08:31
intelikeysox Dheeraj_k but you won't like it.08:31
apokryphosubuntu: no space before /nick08:31
ubuntuokay08:31
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Dj-Serpenlol08:31
Dj-Serpen i have typed //nick :S08:32
apokryphoshi08:32
apokryphos=)08:32
Dj-Serpenit's / :P08:32
apokryphosubotu: fr08:32
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:32
Dj-Serpenyay08:32
dr0fnax!vim08:32
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code08:32
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Dheeraj_kwhy amarok does not support mp3? by default?08:33
fibonaccilegal reasons.08:33
bLaZeD!uuid08:33
ubotuTo see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)08:33
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Dheeraj_kwat about xmms?08:34
intelikeythe thing i like about sox is the fact that it doesn't do anything "fancy" just play's you sound files.   being a bash-scripter it likes me to just tell it what to play, and it does it.  simple apps for simple minds i guess.08:34
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apokryphosDheeraj_k: xmms sucks08:34
DralaFixmms rocks08:34
intelikeyxmms is beter than amarok  :)08:34
apokryphosyuck08:34
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intelikeybut i don't like xmms either.08:35
fibonacciintelikey: I think you got it in for amaroK :)08:35
apokryphoswhat is it? The beautiful x-menus, the complete lack of configuration, or ugliness that makes it better08:35
Dheeraj_k apokryphos: why?08:35
DralaFiamarok has an annoying delay between songs and isn't as fast as xmms when holding down 'b'08:35
intelikeyfibonacci just like some in here have a special afenity for it. :)08:35
intelikey<--anti-08:35
fibonacci<-- PRO :) (:08:36
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=== apokryphos hugs amarok
apokryphosbut juk is also good08:36
DralaFican someone please explain to me what this local-top, local-bottom scripts are for in the initrd?08:36
arriesphow can i install an scaner?08:36
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apokryphosubotu: scanner08:36
ubotuScanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners08:36
DralaFiif you want a music manager, madman is awesome08:36
apokryphosDralaFi: #ubuntu might be better for your question08:37
DralaFithanks apokryphos08:37
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Dheeraj_ki like the interface of xmms  with almond skin08:39
intelikeyoh and that's another thing i don't like.  if the interface is so ugly you need to "skin" it   why not just fix the interface....08:40
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intelikeyok i'm finished adding colour to the channel....08:41
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Dheeraj_kdoes any 1 know why interface of realplayer is so ugly in linux?08:42
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Dheeraj_kwhen i installed realplayer first time i was expecting windows type interface in its linux version08:43
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Dheeraj_kbut when i run it first time i got the 1000 walt shock08:44
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intelikeyERROR!  dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file  <--- postfix is not installed why should there be a postfix user account ?08:44
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intelikeyDheeraj_k sound promicing. i may have to look at realplayer08:47
fibonacci:}08:47
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intelikeyyeah.  i do.   hmmmmm08:49
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Dheeraj_kdon't use it it is worst player ever made for linux08:51
logicalbombwhat player is that?08:51
intelikeyrealplayer ?08:51
logicalbombI thought realplayer was just the worse player ever made period08:51
intelikey:)08:52
intelikeythat settels it.08:52
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logicalbombi've had success with Xine for media08:52
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logicalbomband Amarok for audio08:52
Dheeraj_kdid u heard about latest bug in firefox? which allow hacker to obtaing login id password from password manager08:52
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intelikeyThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:53
intelikey  realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable08:53
intelikeyE: Broken packages <--- guess the revisit is off08:53
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logicalbombI don't worry about the exploits I go ahead and post my IP address and passwords in my personal blogs08:53
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intelikeymy user accounts don't have passwords....08:54
intelikey:p08:54
logicalbombI run in root while trying out shell commands I get over IRC >.>08:54
Dheeraj_kcool! :D08:55
intelikeyfirst lier aint ever got a chance.....08:55
logicalbomblol08:55
intelikeylogicalbomb /whois intelikey  will prove that....08:55
intelikey:)08:55
logicalbombI am new to Kubuntu but it's the most comfortable system i've ever used08:55
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intelikeyjust like an old shue08:56
nagyvDr_willis: Fizzball is really nice, but I could not really enjoy it :(08:56
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logicalbombnever got into IRC though, I thought i'd join the community after getting linux configured and working correctly08:56
logicalbombHowever, I can't get my p2p software working even though I installed the java packages08:57
logicalbombit seems to look like it's going to start and then just decide it never wants to08:57
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intelikey!p2p08:58
ubotuConventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.08:58
Dheeraj_kChk this out huge list of software for ubuntu and family http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3198908:58
logicalbombthat and I have Nvidia Drivers installed but when I switch the Xorg.conf from driver = nv to Nvidia it fails08:58
logicalbombturn it back and it works out08:58
intelikeythat wiki page "might" help ^08:58
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logicalbombI have frostwire and Limewire08:58
logicalbomband Ktorrent08:58
logicalbombbut the wire's don't work08:58
intelikeydid you check the page for info on that ?08:59
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cloakableAnyone here good with Kommander?08:59
intelikeywell its time for me to go.08:59
logicalbombhmmm09:00
logicalbombNo yield for helpful info09:00
Dheeraj_kyday i compiled and installed latest version of linux kernel and now kubuntu is running faster :)09:01
fibonaccihow do i register my nick in irc ?09:02
logicalbombI need to learn how to do that... I had to work so hard just to install the graphix driver09:02
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logicalbombswitching from windows is no easy task, other then the relief of having the system run without a BSOD in sight09:02
logicalbomb!register09:02
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration09:02
helpmepleaseok, I am still having trouble getting kubuntu-desktop to install09:03
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AmorityHello everyone :D09:04
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Dheeraj_khelpmeplease: wats the problem?09:04
helpmepleasewell09:05
helpmepleaselol, I thought I got it figured out last night09:05
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helpmepleasebut when I went to actually install it today, it won't09:05
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helpmepleaseto be honest, I guess I'm not completely sure what I'm doing09:05
nagyvDosemu is asking for my keyboard map. What does dis mean?09:06
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Amoritythe layout of the keys on your keyboard09:06
logicalbombqwerty or dvorak09:06
logicalbombetc09:06
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helpmepleaseI get the following error when trying to install kubuntu-desktop through Synaptic:09:07
logicalbombhow do I launch my wine GUI09:07
nagyvAmority: I know this, but how should I pass it to dosemu?09:07
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helpmepleaseKubuntu-desktop:09:07
Amoritynagyv : im sorry I never changed my keymap so I dont know :(09:07
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helpmepleaseDepnds: amarok but it is not going to be installed09:08
helpmepleaseDepends: kopete but it is not going to be installed09:08
logicalbombamarok and kopete usually come pre-installed on Kubuntu09:08
logicalbombit did on my version09:08
nagyvIs here anyone using dosemu? How should I set the $_layout_option?09:09
Amoritymine too09:09
helpmepleasewell09:09
helpmepleaseok, here is my situation09:09
helpmepleaseI installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake off of my CD09:09
helpmepleaseI wanted to activate the KDE enviroment09:09
logicalbombI am using Kubuntu09:09
helpmepleasewhich wouldn't work at first for some reason09:09
logicalbombhaven't tried dapper drake09:10
nagyvhelpmeplease: are the mentioned program available on the ubuntu CD?09:10
helpmepleaseI was then told to remove the # symbol from the source.list and update all the files09:10
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helpmepleaseno, they weren't for some reason09:10
logicalbombI know it was really hard setting up my graphics drivers, any time I tried to do the standard apt-get install of the glx driver for nvidia it screwed every thing up09:10
helpmepleasebut updating was supposed to have downloaded those files09:10
nagyvhelpmeplease: are they there now?09:10
helpmepleaseand those specific two are listed on the Synaptic package list09:10
Amoritylogicalbomb, me too but I use ati ^-^09:10
helpmepleaselol09:10
helpmepleaseso I don't know why it won't work09:11
logicalbombyou're a braver man then I am for configuring an ATi in linux09:11
logicalbombmy X1900 XTX on my personal PC told me to shove it09:11
helpmepleaseunless those two are relying on another package that isn't there, in some odd and twisted chain reaction09:11
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logicalbombI didn't even try to venture into getting the crossfired enabled09:11
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logicalbombthus my laptop remains loyal to linux and my desktop a traitor loaded with microsuck09:11
logicalbombcrossfire*09:12
nagyvhelpmeplease: try 'apt-get install kubuntu desktop'  from the command line, it will ask wheather you would like to install the dependencies or will say that they are not available09:12
robotgeeknagyv: just say yes09:12
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helpmepleaseyou forgot the sudp part09:13
helpmeplease:P09:13
helpmeplease*sudo09:13
nagyvrobotgeek: I get no questions :(09:13
Admiral_Chicagohave you considered doing a -f install?09:13
logicalbombhe assumed you'de already know something so trivial help :)09:13
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logicalbombI want to try to configure something similar to proto-wall in my linux system09:14
Amoritydang cross fire in linux... dangerous :P09:15
logicalbombdidn't even attempt it09:15
logicalbombkept that in winblows09:15
AmorityI dont think i would either09:15
helpmepleasehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33964/09:16
logicalbombI couldn't even get my card to work in the first place09:17
helpmepleaseso same problem as the Synaptic installer09:17
logicalbombas soon as I ventured past vesa I got a big black screen of nothingness09:17
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helpmepleaseany ideas?09:19
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robotgeekhelpmeplease: dapper/edgy?09:19
helpmepleasedapper09:20
robotgeekhelpmeplease: do you have dapper-updates enabled?09:20
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helpmepleaseI believe so....I just got updates about 20 minutes ago09:21
helpmeplease^_^09:21
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|Sputnik|yooo09:25
helpmepleaserobotgeek: still there?09:26
deiani came to Kubuntu from openSuse, and i'm really impressed!!09:26
robotgeekhelpmeplease: yes. no i mean it is a separate repository09:26
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helpmeplease???09:27
robotgeekhelpmeplease: i will paste my sources.list09:27
helpmepleaseok09:28
robotgeekhelpmeplease: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/25782109:29
helpmepleaseok09:30
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helpmepleaseand you want me to do what?09:31
helpmepleasecopy the thing over my current list?09:31
robotgeekhelpmeplease: yes, after backing your old one up09:31
helpmepleaseok09:32
helpmepleasejust a sec then09:32
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logicalbombwhat do you substitute kwrite or Kate in kubuntu with to get it to launch in terminal09:32
deiansudo -i?09:33
logicalbombreally?09:34
logicalbombi didn't know that09:34
deiani'm not sure09:34
logicalbombI kept seeing gedit being used but I was under the impression that was for gnome only09:34
deianyes i think it is09:34
deianhence the G in the title09:35
logicalbombso when I substituted gedit for kate or kwrite when my graphics driver was out it told me it couldn't load X09:35
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deiankate is for KDE09:35
logicalbombI know i'm running KDE09:35
deianoh kate is graphical only09:35
logicalbombhence Kubuntu09:35
logicalbombso is Kwrite09:35
deianyes09:35
deiantry nano09:35
logicalbombI don't know if I have a none GUI based editor09:35
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deiannano is simple09:35
deianyeah u do,09:36
deiannano is included in standard installation09:36
logicalbombnice09:36
logicalbomband ty09:36
deianno problems09:36
logicalbombwhat about this gnutella stuff?09:36
deianctrl-w to save09:36
logicalbombcan I use that in KDE09:36
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logicalbombor is that only gnome too, and the reason frostwire and limewire wont work on my sys09:36
deiani'm not sure09:37
deianif u installed kubuntu kde and gnome programs should work under kde too09:37
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logicalbombI only installed KDE09:37
logicalbombI don't think I installed gnome09:38
deianthats still ok09:38
deiankubuntu will have the files to run gnome programs too09:38
logicalbombalien was a sweet program to pick up09:38
logicalbombran the RPM to unload limewire09:38
fibonacciOk, giving Kubuntu my first go today, let's see what it's got....09:38
deianwhere have u come from fibonacci?09:39
deiani mean what distro?09:39
fibonacciSuSE09:39
deianme too09:39
deiankubuntu is much better09:39
deiani've even got beryl running stable on it too09:39
fibonacciWell I took the Ubuntu + KDE aproach, and so far so good. But we will see.. time will tell.09:39
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helpmepleaserobotgeek: ok, I got it all saved....now try that command again?09:40
robotgeekhelpmeplease: yup09:40
fibonaccideian: If I don't like it, I think I will look further, Fedora perhaps...09:41
helpmepleasehere goes nothing09:41
logicalbombI wish linux could run my games09:41
logicalbomb=\09:41
deiani felt fedora was horrible09:41
fibonaccideian: Really, why ?09:42
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deiani asked it to install kde as my desktop09:42
deiani finish installation and there was gnome09:42
fibonacciAs in Gnome lib's and KDE desktop, or only Gnome ?09:42
deiangnome as the desktop09:42
deianmaybe kde was also installed09:43
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deianmy wireless card didn't work either09:43
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ubuntuHi09:43
fibonaccihmm.. odd. Well I'm having trouble deciding what Distro to go with, SuSE got some stuff I like, and so does Kubuntu (but I don't like the whole Gnome feel of it).09:43
deianno, gnome smells09:44
deiankubuntu is VERY stable comapred to suse09:44
ubuntukubuntu is the best09:44
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fibonaccideian: Jepp, so far I can agree.09:44
deianthe adept packager works much better than Yasts09:44
Dheeraj_ki hate rpm :p09:44
logicalbombi got a free version of SuSe 10 in my LFX magazine09:44
fibonacciOh god yes, YaST is a pain in th eas.09:44
logicalbombbest coaster i've ever owned.09:44
cox377i need to extract the mpeg from a vcd file, can anyone recommend me some software please?09:45
deianthey fixed it in 10.2 more or less, but Adept is much faster09:45
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logicalbombmplayer then isntall the xine extension09:45
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deianand i got beryl working smoothly with the 3D world plugin enabled09:45
deianit looks awesome09:45
fibonaccinice. How about using Debian ?09:46
deiandebian is more hardcore isn't it09:46
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deiankubuntu is based on debian isn't it09:46
fibonacciyeah it is. So are they similar ?09:46
Lynouredeian: less cutesy and more flexible, and will not work out of box that often09:46
deiani can't answer that really because i've not tried debian09:47
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deiandebian is more like gentoo and slackware i think09:47
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Lynouredeian: I'm considering going back to it, I prefer breaking things myself =)09:47
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deianlol09:47
deianwhen i feel more comfortable with linux i may go to debian09:48
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Grumi have a question about partition09:48
Grum*partitions09:48
LynoureGrum: ask away?09:48
jpgeeretshi folks09:48
GrumIs there a program I can use to find out how much space I'm using in a partition?09:48
jpgeeretssomeone tryed install and use vmware 5.5 in edgy?09:48
GrumI have home on one partition and / on another09:49
jpgeeretsGrum: try using df -k from commandline09:49
Grumok thanks09:49
logicalbombhow do I launch my wine GUI09:49
GrumJpgeerets: It worked. . . thanks very much!09:50
robotgeekGrum: df -kh09:50
Dheeraj_ki think by typing sudo wine09:50
Admiral_ChicagoGrum, fdisk -h i think09:50
deianin gui?09:50
logicalbombyeah no GUI09:51
logicalbomband i can't find the file paths for the installed exe's09:51
jpgeeretsgreat Grum09:51
deian u do: wine "path"09:52
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deianin windows style yea09:52
ChousukeDheeraj_k: You don't need sudo for it.09:52
deianso say i'd wanna run itunes i'd go: bash~: wine "c:\program files\itunes\itunes.exe"09:52
deianof course itunes wont' work cos it's a pain09:53
logicalbombno love09:54
Dheeraj_ki prefer to run windows application in windows and linux app in linux09:54
logicalbombyeah but i want my music so bad09:55
logicalbomblol09:55
logicalbombI can't get any p2p files working09:55
logicalbombeven after java installs09:55
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deianand me too09:55
jpgeeretswhy wanna use p2p09:55
deiani have 3200 tunes on itunes stuck on another pc09:55
Dheeraj_kdoes windows virus harm wine too?09:55
deiani doubt it09:55
deianviruses harm windows files and processes and not the programs so much09:56
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logicalbombbecause I want to sample music i'm about to legally purchase?09:56
logicalbombthats why I want frostwire or limewire on linux09:56
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fdoving!frostwire | logicalbomb09:56
ubotulogicalbomb: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire09:56
logicalbombbecause I need my traveling tunes to plug into when my kids are being hoolagans in the back seat of the car and not shutting up09:56
xwolf-sometimes i get "Conversation with su failed"09:57
xwolf-why is that?09:57
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noelvisanybody there .....09:58
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logicalbombYES10:00
logicalbombfdoving I love you!10:00
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xwolf-!mobile10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
xwolf-!c65010:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about c650 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
logicalbomb!qpit10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about qpit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
_adaptr!xwolf10:02
fdoving!kphone10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xwolf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
ubotukphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB10:02
fdoving!kmobile10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
fdoving!kmobiletools10:02
ubotukmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB10:02
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Dheeraj_kwats going on? bot war?10:02
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Dheeraj_k!kpdf10:04
ubotukpdf: PDF viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1004 kB10:04
robotgeek!msgthebot > fdoving10:04
Dheeraj_k!apache10:04
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.10:04
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fdovingyeah i know.10:04
Dheeraj_k!bot10:05
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:05
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fdoving!botsnack10:05
ubotuYum!10:05
fdoving:)10:05
Dheeraj_k!ubotu10:05
Dheeraj_k!botcoke10:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botcoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:06
Dheeraj_k!windows10:06
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:06
logicalbombfrostwire is sticking open10:07
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logicalbombthe gui is going blank10:07
Dheeraj_k!billgates10:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about billgates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:07
Dheeraj_k!buntu10:08
logicalbomb!microsoft10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
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logicalbomb!botpet10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botpet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
Dheeraj_k!redhat10:08
ubotuOther Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware10:08
fdoving!msgthebot10:08
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)10:08
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Dheeraj_k!girl10:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about girl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:09
logicalbomb!limewire10:09
ubotulimewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.10:09
deianllol10:09
Dheeraj_k!=:)10:09
Dheeraj_k!whoami10:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
fdovingDheeraj_k: it's enought now. please use msg or http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:10
Dheeraj_koh ok10:10
fdovingthanks.10:10
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logicalbombfrostwire is such a lier10:11
logicalbombit is not connecting.10:11
_adaptra what ?10:11
logicalbombliar10:12
deianno10:12
DralaFiDralaFi I'm trying to get kde to pop up a window alerting me that a usb device was found. This works in kubuntu with the initrd, but i'm trying to have an initrd-less system. udev is running. HAL is running, dbus is running. I can't see what's wrong. Can anyone offer some help? Especially on how to diagnose which part is not working.10:12
_adaptrsoftware is generally incapable of lying10:12
logicalbomba lier is when you badly misspell liar?10:12
deianit takes time to connect10:12
logicalbomb!smartass10:12
deianit's gathering sources10:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smartass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:12
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logicalbombi'll get angry at in-animate objects and software all I want, and further more i'll assign it human attributes whenever I feel like it10:13
logicalbombthere for, it lied to me.10:13
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deianhas it connected by now?10:14
bill57785Ok, I'm back (helpmeplease).10:14
bill57785And Kubuntu is running perfectly. Thank you very much guys.10:14
logicalbombno limewire did though10:14
logicalbombfrostwire didn't want ot10:14
logicalbombto*10:14
deianohh10:14
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logicalbombworking pretty good now too10:16
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logicalbombwent to sudo nano /usr/bin/limewire10:16
logicalbombchanged the sh limewire.sh10:16
logicalbombto bash limewire.sh10:16
ds_ll10:16
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logicalbombyou know until I started reading linux user and LFX I had no idea how many linux users where in the UK10:18
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woodefechi10:19
woodefechow to check the edgy efts md5 checksum?10:19
woodefec(kubuntu)10:20
woodefeccan't find it nowhere and installation doesnt go properly10:20
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Dheeraj_kubuntuguide.org10:20
xwolf-sometimes i get "Conversation with su failed"10:20
xwolf-why is that?10:21
woodefecDheeraj_k : I mean for kubuntu10:21
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RaNgOhow to change screen refresh rate on live kubuntu ?10:23
logicalbomb!samba10:23
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:23
woodefec!checksum10:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about checksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
Dheeraj_k!firewall10:23
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).10:23
woodefec!md510:23
ubotuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows10:23
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Dheeraj_kthis bot has lots of information10:24
Dr_willis!where is elvis.10:25
Dheeraj_kaww10:25
bill57785!girls10:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:25
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_adaptrhow sad10:25
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Dheeraj_ki already tried that10:25
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woodefechttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto - too complicated10:26
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Dr_willisit is?10:26
Dr_willisi use some md5sum program that puts md5sum menu item under windows context menu.10:27
Dr_willisright click, 'check md5sum'10:27
bill57785!pregnancy10:27
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woodefeci am not in windows10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pregnancy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:27
Dr_willisthen look at the md6sum file10:27
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bill57785ok, anyways10:27
Dr_williswoodefec,  even easier then.. use md5sum command.10:27
_adaptr!anything10:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:28
woodefecDr_willis : ok, but what to compare it to?10:28
xtavaresx!nothing10:28
ubotunothing is Saying "I don't see anything", or "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an error message, say so, and which error it is, etc.  -  Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.10:28
Dr_williswhere you downloaded the iso file - there is a filename.md5 that has the sum in it10:28
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woodefec1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e - thats the sum i got from my file10:29
LynoureDoes knetworkmanager detect new networks for you people?10:30
woodefecwhen i go here: http://ftp.ds.karen.hj.se/pub/os/linux/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/edgy/ - i get a page, no dir10:30
woodefecill try from mc10:30
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Dr_willishttp://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/MD5SUMS10:31
BluesKajwoodefec, works here in firefox10:31
bill57785!your_dad_but_I_know_a_lot_about_your_mom10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about your_dad_but_I_know_a_lot_about_your_mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:32
Dr_willis1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso10:32
Dr_willislooks good to me10:32
LjL!botabuse10:32
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)10:32
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bill57785ok, sorry10:32
Dr_willis:)10:32
woodefecBluesKaj : got it10:32
ubuntuhello ppl10:32
woodefec!windows10:33
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:33
ubuntui have a problim can any one solve with me ??10:33
woodefecthank you all10:33
BluesKajwoodefec, good10:33
logicalbombyou know until I started reading linux user and LFX I had no idea how many linux users where in the UK10:33
Dr_willis!ask10:33
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)10:33
logicalbomb!samba10:33
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:33
ubuntuok thanx10:33
woodefec!rumba10:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rumba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:33
rahercan someone help me with my grub config ?10:34
Dr_willisraher,  what part of the grub config are you having issues with.10:34
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conorwell10:35
conor:D10:35
ubuntuiam trying to install linux on my pc , when i tried to create partitions manually i found strange things , i have 160 gb hard disk 4 partitions + unallocated area but he read it as sda1 160 gb only what can i do10:35
conori want it to boot into the windows bootloader after 4 seconds10:35
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conorDr_willis: http://pastebin.com/83282310:36
Dr_willisconor,  yea. thats simple enough.. you can set the 'default' to be whaever you want. by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst10:36
_adaptr!tango10:36
ubotutango is a style guideline and icon set. It can be found and read about at http://tango-project.org10:36
Dr_willisI always set the 'default' to be 0 - and uncomment the windows 'example' in the comments.10:36
_adaptrI'll be ...10:36
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Dr_willisthat way windows stays at the #1 spot and dosent get moved by any new kernels.10:37
ubuntuwhen i tried to create the drives under windows by using partition magic i did it then i tried again but he read the one partition only of 13.5 gb10:37
Dr_willisconor,  the trick to rember is that grub starts counting at 0 :)10:37
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Dr_williswhy are pastebin sites always sooo slow...10:38
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chupa-chupsso can any one help me10:39
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conorye they are really slow10:39
chupa-chups?????????????????10:39
conori rather spam channels :D10:39
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_adaptrchupa-chups: I'm afraid not, unless you're willing to share *what with*10:39
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Dr_willischupa-chups,  we dont have esp. :)10:40
chupa-chupsexcuse me i cant understand10:40
conorDr_willis: so how do i do it ?10:40
Dr_willischupa-chups,  the problem is?10:40
_adaptrthat makes... 2_+of us10:40
Dr_willisconor,  edit the grub config.. change the 'default' entry. to point to the windows 'item'10:41
chupa-chupsam trying to install linux on my pc , when i tried to create partitions manually i found strange things , i have 160 gb hard disk 4 partitions + unallocated area but he read it as sda1 160 gb only what can i do10:41
wildchildhow can I go to local server by konqueror10:41
chupa-chupswhen i tried to create the drives under windows by using partition magic i did it then i tried again but he read it again  one partition only sda1 of 13.5 gb10:41
_adaptrchupa-chups: post actual fdisk output pls10:41
chupa-chupswt???10:42
bill57785ok, so now I have this USB hub....how do I get it to work on Kubuntu? I have tried running stuff through it, and the things get power, but I don't get it to actually work10:42
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_adaptrchupa-chups: "fdisk -l",. then use a pastebin site to share that with us10:42
Dr_willischupa-chups,  for a start dont use partition magic to 'make' the drives for linux.. resize the existing windows drives and leave a large section of the hard drive 'unallocated' then let the installer auto partuition that part of the drive.10:42
wildchildhow can I go to local server by konqueror ?  (In kosole I just write user@IP and that's it)10:42
_adaptrwildchild: use "localhost"10:43
Dr_williswildchild,  'go to' is vague.. you mean use 'ssh to get a shell/login into' a loca machine?10:43
_adaptrwildchild: this works even on Winblowz10:43
chupa-chupsi already leave 30 for / and 2 gb for swap10:43
wildchildDr_willis: yes SSH10:43
conorDr_willis nearly everything is commented out10:43
Dr_williswildchild,  man ssh10:43
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jeff_!sound10:44
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:44
wildchildDr_willis: and there I will dinf instructions how to login via konqueor?10:44
Dr_willisconor,  no its not. :P ## is a comment.. # is a option for the grub-config tool..       its defaulting to some defaults..   BACKUP your original.10:44
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Dr_williswildchild,  use the 'FISH://' feature of konquerort to browse files over ssh on a remote machine.10:44
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Dr_willisconor,  example in mine.. --->   default         010:45
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wildchildDr_willis: thx I was looking for "FISH"10:45
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Dr_willisconor,  and under 'examples' theres a windows entry. that i uncomment - that way i have a 'windows' item at the top of the list.10:46
Dr_willisconor,  or count the entries you see in the grub menu and count down and put in that #. (starting at 0)10:46
conoro.010:46
Dr_willisor go read the  grub docs and learn how grub works. its rather straightforwared10:47
conor!grub10:48
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:48
conorif you want to edit it for me on paste bin i'd be grateful :P10:49
Dr_willisYou change 1 line....10:49
Dr_willisdefault # where # is what you10:49
Dr_willisyou want/need it to be.10:49
Dr_willisyou may want to 'unhide' the grub menu by default.   by commenting 'out' the hidemenu line..  ##hiddenmenu10:50
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Dr_willisor just hit 'escape' to see the menu at boot time. then count the # of entries/lines. :)10:50
xtavaresx!sudo -i10:50
Dr_willisstarting at 010:50
ubotusudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB10:50
logicalbombhow do I get my windows computer to show up on this computer in share10:51
logicalbombI don't even know how to browse network computers on here10:51
logicalbomb!samba network10:51
ubotusamba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB10:51
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Dr_willisor use the remote places icon to browse network shares.10:51
_adaptrlogicalbomb: set up a local network for your computer, so it occupies the same workgroup as your windows machine(s)10:51
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Dr_willisor put-----> smb:/   in your konqueror address bar.10:52
_adaptra local Samba is usually the cleanest way to get it working properly, and the config takes like 5 minutes10:52
logicalbombnice10:52
logicalbombdone10:52
Dr_willisfor linux to linux - i perfer to use the ssh filesystem feature.------->  fish://localhost10:53
Dr_willisfor windows to linux - i tend to use 'winscp3' :)10:53
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Dheeraj_ketherape!10:55
_adaptrabsolutely10:55
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Dheeraj_kkernel!10:56
_adaptrnot ethe-rape, the other thing10:56
conorhmmm my brain aint taking anything in10:57
_adaptrwinscp and putty are two of the few things that make windows bearable10:57
_adaptrwireshark is another :)10:57
mnoirum - cygwin too...10:57
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muge2510hi all10:58
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Dheeraj_kwhere is bot10:59
_adaptrmnoir: I'd rather use a solid OS with a broken set of tools than the other way around.. but the margin is small, I admit that10:59
muge2510who10:59
_adaptr!who10:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about who - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:59
Dheeraj_koh11:00
Dheeraj_k!etherape11:00
mnoir_adaptr: actually, I do not choose to use any MS stuff unless it is for testing11:00
ubotuetherape: graphical network monitor modeled after etherman. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3build1 (edgy), package size 370 kB, installed size 928 kB11:00
conori think ill have to reinstall kubuntu :_(11:00
Dheeraj_keven microsoft has some useful tool11:01
Dheeraj_kbackup every thing11:01
Dheeraj_k!kernel11:01
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild11:01
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conoris there a way to restore all my settings back to the way they were when i installed kubuntu ?11:02
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Dheeraj_k!backup11:03
ubotuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning11:03
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osiriswhat does qt use to render graphics11:04
Dheeraj_ksudo apt-get install keep11:05
Dheeraj_kit is a backup tool11:05
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osirismy graphics card is failing, and now any kde app either seg's or hard locks the box11:06
d03boydoes anyone have a laptop with the Fn+F2 keys to turn on and off wireless? I am having trouble making use of this because xserv or SOMETHING keeps intercepting the key combo so I cant use it to turn wireless on11:07
Dheeraj_k!graphics11:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:07
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d03boythe atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed blabla bla error shows up dmesg11:07
_adaptrosiris: Qt *is* a rendering engine, it directly speaks to the graphics interface11:07
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osirisok, then that makes sense11:08
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osirisi just wanted to make sure qt isnt hosed, cause things have been so weird lately11:08
_adaptrit's a library for rendering graphics, which KDE uses to paint itself on your dekstop11:08
_adaptrwell.. the bad news is that it could be11:09
osirisktorrent just disappears when running, systemsettings will seg after about 2 screens, etc.11:09
osirisi dont think its qt, as it worked with a different nvidia card in here11:09
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_adaptrosiris: run glxgears and glxinfo, see if the card is running okay11:10
osirisif i do that i KNOW it will hard lock11:10
Dheeraj_kdoes any body know how to participate in ubuntu development?11:10
osirisgl always will hang it11:10
Dheeraj_ki have got the college project11:10
_adaptrosiris: then I'd replace the card, see if that solves it11:10
_adaptrDheeraj_k: congratulations11:11
osiriswell for a poor boy to drop 80 bones on a new card, i kinda have to be sure11:11
Dheeraj_ki am planning to integrate sql with os >>sqldesktop11:11
_adaptrthen download and boot Knoppix11:11
_adaptrif that does opengl, you KNOW it's software11:11
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d03boywow. wireless just started working... apparently you have to reboot? I thought you never had to reboot in linux :|11:12
mohammedHi guys ! Greetings ..11:12
osiris_adaptr, good point11:12
_adaptrd03boy: there can be many reasons to reboot Linux11:12
cloakableYeah, a Kernel upgrade/change11:13
mohammedI'm done with Gnome ! decided to switch to kde ... what's the best memory size to have on PC ?11:13
d03boymohammed, good call ;011:13
_adaptrmohammed: as much as the CPU architecture can address, obviously11:13
_adaptrmohammed: none of my workstations have less than 1GB, and my main machine has 211:14
mohammedI'm running on P4 2.4 GH ... I assume kde worked fine on my 256 mb memory pc11:14
Dr_willis256 ick11:15
_adaptrhahahahahahha.. erm, sorry, but that's just hilarious.. I haven't run with 256MB since I got a 1GHz + machine11:15
Dr_willissave up some $$   get more11:15
_adaptrthat would be just enough to get WIndows XP to start up.. or KDE11:15
mohammedlol ! I know ! hence I'll upgrade :D11:15
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mohammedWill 512 MB be enough then ?11:16
Dheeraj_kme too have 2.4 with 256ram and kubuntu run fine on it11:16
_adaptrmohammed: enough for *what* ?11:16
Dheeraj_kget 2gb!11:16
d03boyhow can I permanently turn off the Konsole bell? it turns itself back on11:16
mohammed512+256 ! for Kubuntu everyday use !11:16
Dr_willisd03boy,  'save as default'11:17
_adaptrindeed, 2GB dual-channel will cost you around $400, and it will make your PC last at least twice as long as your neighbour kids' 33 GHz Pentium-whatever0the-latest with crappy hardware and 512MB11:17
d03boyah, nice11:17
Dheeraj_ki may upgrade my pc in jan just to trial and test vista11:17
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mohammedoh yeah !11:17
_adaptrDheeraj_k: Vista will be a trial for the length of its lifetime11:17
mohammedyeah that's anothere point , vista11:18
Dheeraj_ki agree!11:18
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_adaptrDheeraj_k: if all WIndows versions up to now are any indication, anyway11:18
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_adaptrthere was one decent Windows version, and they killed it11:19
Dheeraj_kwin98?11:19
d03boyse11:19
_adaptrhahaha.. funny11:19
jon_i have an install question if someone can help11:20
_adaptrWindows 2000 was finicky, but it ran really well, and even had a workstation version that was actually derived from the server version - not the other way around, as every other windows family before or since11:20
mohammedVista won't be able to service for couple of months till software vendors maintain software stability for it11:20
Dheeraj_ki am currently using window to run visual studio and some games for every thing else there is k-Ubuntu11:20
_adaptrjon_: ask it, don't wait around11:20
jon_thanks11:20
Dheeraj_ki am running winxp on my pc with out aVirus and fWall but still it is running fine :)11:21
jon_i'm trying to install and want to put grub on the MBR of my sata drive which is sda. by default it puts it on (hd0) and i just need to know what replace this with11:21
jon_i tried (sd0) and it failed11:21
wildchildhello11:22
wildchildwhere is usually apache located on server11:22
wildchildI am looking for apache.conf11:22
Dheeraj_khas any body played 3d game in linux?11:22
wildchildor what's the command to find apache.conf11:22
Dheeraj_k!apache11:22
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.11:22
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mnoirwildchild: try 'man locate' as a starter11:25
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jon_does (hd0) symbolize first IDE drive or first disk as in the bios boot order11:26
Dheeraj_kdoes any body know wat is the advantage unix has over linux? vise versa11:27
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tamacrackerHey guys?... Doesn't Kubuntu Edgy Eft, come with Wine?11:28
_adaptrDheeraj_k: define "unix"11:28
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_adaptrDheeraj_k: Linux *is* a unix-like OS11:28
_adaptras in it is POSIX-compliant, and supports the GNU toolset11:28
jon_ok nm i found it....11:28
Dheeraj_kyeah that i know11:28
_adaptrDheeraj_k: then what is your question ?11:29
mnoirtamacracker: come with? no. can you install from the repositories? yes11:29
tamacrackerOh heh... alright I'll check it out.11:29
Dheeraj_kwhy unix is more popular than  linux to run dedicated server11:29
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_adaptrDheeraj_k: again, define "unix"11:30
tamacrackerI didn't want to go downloadin it, thnkin i already have it.11:30
Dheeraj_khp unix etc11:30
Dheeraj_khp-ibm-unix11:30
_adaptrand it is not, to my knowledge, "mnore popular" - if you take that to mean number of installations worldwide, I think you will find that Linux is used considerably more than any other Unix-like OS - for any reason11:30
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_adaptrDheeraj_k: none of those are "official" unixen11:31
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_adaptrHP-UX is proprietary and not compatible with a lot, and IBM VM/CMS is.. well, even less compatible11:31
Dheeraj_ki mean to run dedicated server like supercomputer11:31
woodefeci tried to run the kubuntu live CD on two computers and it doesnt11:32
woodefecmd5 sum is fine11:32
_adaptrDheeraj_k: the only "unixen" left of any note today are the various *BSDs and Solaris11:32
woodefecill try again and report back if still rubbish11:32
woodefecc u11:32
_adaptrDheeraj_k: a supercomputer is not the same as a dedicated server - an FTP server is a dedicated server, if it's not used for anything else11:32
_adaptrDheeraj_k: a supercomputer is just that - a supercomputer11:33
_adaptrDheeraj_k: there is a global top-500 list by processing power, and Linux clusters are increasingly the most common occupants11:33
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_adaptrDheeraj_k: google for it11:33
rexbronWhat driver option do I need to enable in my xorg.conf to use the xorg-video-intel driver instead of the i81011:34
rexbron?11:34
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_adaptrname the module in your card config11:36
_adaptri.e. don't use i810, use the other one11:36
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ticlessmy system just crashed and I need help! When ever I run ldconfig I get: ldconfig: Input file /lib/libpamc.so.0.79 not found.11:43
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_adaptrthen it probably can't find it - have you verified that it exists ?11:45
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ticlessyes I exists but is it normal that it's size is 3.7GB?11:49
ticlessmy KDE crashed and now whenever I try to boot I get fatal error saying, kdm/usr/bin/kdm libpam.so.0 cannot open shared objec file error 611:50
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_adaptrticless: not really... let me check11:50
Makro2hello11:50
Makro2any command for to set PATH for root?11:51
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ticless_adaptr: It would really be nice if someone could help my cause I kinda screwed11:51
Admiral_Chicagoticless, where do you get this error?11:52
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ticlesswhen I try to boot normally, it halts and leave me with a console login where I get the same error everytime I try to login11:53
_adaptrticless: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30456 2006-05-12 19:42 /lib/libpam.so.0.7911:54
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_adaptrticless: 30KB, more or less11:54
ticlessoh sounds more fair11:54
ticlessb--s---rwt 39387 3959343167 4216798134 218, 44 Apr 21  2022 libpam.so.011:54
_adaptrticless: what does file say ?11:55
_adaptroops - it;s a block device, something gone and made a block device out of it!11:55
_adaptrticless: careful with that - it looks like it could map to an actual file!11:55
ticlessI cant get rid of it, I have tried to reinstall libpam packages without luck11:55
_adaptrwell, if you did manage to delete it you may find that you've just lost an entire 4GB partition11:55
_adaptrbetter investigate this a bit further - do you have lsof installed ?11:56
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_adaptrif so , run : "lsof | grep "/lib/libpam.so.0.79"11:56
_adaptrthat'll show you who or what has it open11:56
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intelikeyQ how can i get lilo errors if the kernel and initramfs.img are both set imutable and the mbr check sum is unchanged ?11:58
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, what version are you on?11:58
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logicalbomb!activesync11:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about activesync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:58
intelikeyLILO version 22.6.1 (Ubuntu)11:58
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logicalbombcan you synchro your smartphone with a windows OS to your linux system?11:59
logicalbombor is there a way to replace the OS on your phone11:59
intelikeyLTS 6.6   not sure which one you are asking ?11:59
d03boyif I use adept and it says i have 55 updaets and oen of them is a linux-image should I do it?11:59
Admiral_Chicagointelikey, probably dapper11:59
d03boyor will that essentially ruin my life11:59
Dr_willisd03boy,  i always update...11:59
Dr_willis!info linux-image12:00
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ubotuPackage linux-image does not exist in any distro I know12:00
Admiral_Chicagod03boy, no you should be fine.12:00
Dr_willisd03boy,  sounbds like a kernel update to me12:00
intelikey!info linux-image-38612:00
d03boyya it does... which is why I'm scared12:00
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB12:00
Admiral_ChicagoDr_willis, it is12:00
d03boyevery other kernel update I've ever done has ended with disaster12:00
Admiral_Chicagod03boy, in ubuntu? i've never had a problem12:00
d03boywell I run into every possible problem imaginable :)12:01
d03boyi'll do it anyway..12:01
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intelikeyAdmiral_Chicago so did you have a thought on that, or was that a retorical question to a moot point ?12:01
logicalbombcan you synchro your smartphone with a windows OS to your linux system?12:02
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Admiral_Chicagointelikey, no i don't know much about lilo other than it's a beast to set up12:04
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intelikeyi have no trubble setting it up....12:05
MetaBookfoziS!w32css12:05
MetaBookfoziS!w32codecs12:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32css - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:05
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:05
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Admiral_Chicago!resticted | MetaBookfoziS12:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:06
icheynehi all. I updated my nvidia graphics driver, so I could run Beryl, but it screwed up my screen resolution. I changed my xorg.conf to nv instead of nvidia. that fixed the problem, but Beryl does not work. Did that just roll my driver back to the old one?12:06
Admiral_Chicago!restricted | MetaBookfoziS12:06
ubotuMetaBookfoziS: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:06
MetaBookfoziSi have enabled allrepo12:06
MetaBookfoziSbut i don'T ahve that12:07
MetaBookfoziSthat is my problem12:07
Admiral_ChicagoMetaBookfoziS, hold on a sec12:07
MetaBookfoziSokay12:07
Admiral_Chicagoicheyne, you may also want to look at #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl12:07
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icheyneThanks Admiral_Chicago but I got no joy at #ubuntu-xgl12:08
Admiral_ChicagoMetaBookfoziS, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed512:08
Admiral_Chicagoit's not in the repos12:08
icheyneI'll try #beryl12:08
MetaBookfoziSbut with libdvdcss is the same12:08
Admiral_Chicagoicheyne, people aren't also around :\12:08
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icheyneAdmiral_Chicago, it's a Saturday night, so I can't blame them. :D12:09
Admiral_ChicagoMetaBookfoziS, i think that is in the repos12:09
Admiral_Chicagojust copy and paste the commands in konsole12:09
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ticless2sorry my internet went down12:10
ticless2_adaptr: do you have any suggestions to what I might try?12:10
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_adaptrticless2: I'd start with "file /lib/libpam.so.0.79", see what it says12:11

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