[12:12] <robotgeek> tanlaan: yes
[12:12] <tanlaan> robotgeek: ok, then ill get started on installing os 9 and kubuntu dual boot
[12:13] <robotgeek> tanlaan: okay. i have not used it with os 9
[12:13] <tanlaan> robotgeek: oo, are the instructions on the website fine for kubuntu?
[12:13] <h> if it is the hw, I wonder how to find out?
[12:13] <tanlaan> robotgeek: because i do know that it is an rpm, and that i need to use something like alien on it right?
[12:14] <robotgeek> tanlaan: its in the ubuntu repos
[12:14] <joe3k> h: first of all you can check your dmesg output
[12:14] <tanlaan> robotgeek: oo ok that makes it a LOT easier, lol
[12:14] <tanlaan> robotgeek:  ok then im off :D
[12:14] <tanlaan> robotgeek:  thanks for you help
[12:14] <joe3k> h: 'dmesg | tail -n 20' or use > 20
[12:16] <h> I have output to show you, shall I join another # so that I don't litter this page?
[12:17] <cox377> joe3k: its asking me for which flags, i've selected boot partition
[12:17] <joe3k> h: well do you see there something looking like errors?
[12:17] <h> for sure!
[12:17] <joe3k> cox377: ....flags? don't get it :)
[12:18] <joe3k> h: ok so paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:18] <h> this irc says I have to register, but I don't know how.
[12:18] <joe3k> h: please paste to the url
[12:18] <Hawkwind> !register | h
[12:18] <ubotu> h: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:18] <joe3k> h: and then paste the resulting url here
[12:19] <hackeron> anyone? - how do I stop gwenview from playing videos or at least stop resetting my volume from 3% to f****** 80%??
[12:19] <h> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33763/
[12:19] <h> that's slick :)
[12:19] <h> i didn't know you could do that
[12:19] <Chousuke> eep
[12:20] <Chousuke> that looks evil
[12:20] <joe3k> h: i'm sorry too bad
[12:20] <joe3k> Chousuke: :)
[12:20] <Chousuke> failing hardware?
[12:20] <cox377> joe3k: anyway, i made a swap of 1gb, select ext3 as primary file system and it's now installing, it didnt say anything about mbr
[12:20] <h> well, who knows?  The thing works fone in my Mac.
[12:20] <h> i meant it works fine
[12:21] <h> keep in mind, this is just a puny external firewire drive
[12:21] <joe3k> cox377: it will maybe later ... actually the boot loaders are installed usually at the end
[12:21] <joe3k> h: could be that the drivers for the firewire are not ok
[12:22] <h> the ones Ubuntu is using here?
[12:22] <h> ...on my box/
[12:22] <h> ?\
[12:22] <DekKeD> I am trying Beryl and all my Windows have no borders and no titlebar. Any fix?
[12:23] <joe3k> h: what fw controller do you have? some onboard one?
[12:23] <h> um, how do I tell?
[12:23] <h> lspci?
[12:23] <joe3k> h: try lspci
[12:23] <h> :)
[12:25] <h> joe3k:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33765/
[12:25] <londo4> help, I need hyperterminal, who knows what is the hyperterminal in kubuntu?
[12:25] <robotgeek> londo4: which program did you decide on?
[12:26] <joe3k> h: btw do you have dapper or edgy?
[12:27] <cox377> joe3k: ok cool just checking, i may have deleted the partition on my primary drive anyway haha. i didnt read the partition manager properly ,, it did come up with an error saying cannot delete but i suppose i wont know till i reboot
[12:27] <h> it looks like I do not;  however, I tried searching synaptic, and found no results.
[12:27] <londo4> robotgeek: I need to use or config myn router, en I don`t what kubuntu use to connect a router from console port
[12:28] <robotgeek> londo4: did i not point you to a couple of links yesterday.
[12:28] <joe3k> cox377: well that's the reason i always do that stuff manually ..... not to get surprised
[12:28] <robotgeek> i dont know as i havent done it myself before
[12:28] <londo4> ok
[12:28] <joe3k> h: it's the ubuntu version, it's not a package
[12:29] <joe3k> h: can you please do 'uname -a'
[12:29] <h> oh, one moment...
[12:29] <cox377> joe3k: i may learn the hardway
[12:29] <cox377> ;)
[12:29] <londo4> robotgeek: do you know what minicom is?
[12:29] <robotgeek> londo4: nope
[12:30] <joe3k> cox377: anyway these are the "dirty" installers i meant :)
[12:30] <h> ..h-desktop 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:30] <joe3k> h: ok, this is edgy ....
[12:32] <joe3k> h: seems to be this one, http://www.linux1394.org/view_device.php?id=978 and should "work great"
[12:33] <h> you're saying that's my hardware, correct?
[12:33] <joe3k> h: well i'm afraid i can't help more .... you could try to google for the error messages or look for kernel/ubuntu bugs
[12:33] <joe3k> h: yes
[12:33] <joe3k> h: look at the lspci entry on that page
[12:35] <vega-> what's the kubuntu "de facto" iptables/netfilter frontend? if there is such a default..
[12:35] <h> joe3k:  I do thank you for your help though.
[12:35] <BluesKaj> It sure would be nice to get access to my Monitor and display controls so i can fix this desktop and make it more useable again
[12:36] <david__> hey can someone help me with installing java runtime environment?
[12:36] <joe3k> h: ok ... hope you find someone else who has more exp with fw :) gotta go to bed anyway now ;)
[12:36] <joe3k> gn
[12:36] <vega-> david__: theres excellent docs on that in ubuntu/kubuntu wiki
[12:36] <h> Thanks again, bye///
[12:37] <david__> thanks
[12:37] <vega-> and besides nowadays i think it's just "apt-get install sun-java5-jre"
[12:37] <david__> im also having trouble running Beryl. dont suppose anyone can help with that aswell :)
[12:46] <Dr_willis> Heh - every so often a cute game shows up..   http://grubbygames.com/games.php   'fizzball' seems to be such a game. :) too bad its comercial.. $20 :( but the demo is very very long.. heh
[12:58] <BluesKaj> gotta get my desktop back ... no access to monitor/display controls !
[12:59] <intelikey> Jucato !
[12:59] <BluesKaj> WB Jucato
[01:00] <Jucato> O.O
[01:00] <Jucato> moin! :)
[01:01] <BluesKaj> my desktop is HUGE ...need accwss to Monitor res controls but I have orphaned modules somwhere preventing it !
[01:01] <Jucato> try reinstalling kde-guidance, if it helps.. :(
[01:02] <BluesKaj> Jucato, already the newest version
[01:03] <Jucato> by reinstall, I meant "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance"
[01:04] <fabio> #sesso
[01:04] <fabio> sesso per tutti
[01:04] <fabio> siiiiiiiiiiiii
[01:04] <intelikey> kde-guidance is written in python
[01:04] <noiesmo> I am running nvidia driver 9269 on kubuntu edgy I have resolution set to 1152x864 however when I start Opengl game the resolution switches to 1024x768 is there a way to stop this and retain 1152x864 res
[01:04] <fabio> lo sesso
[01:04] <intelikey> ?
[01:04] <fabio> nel sesso
[01:04] <ubuntu> how do you uncomment the two universe repositories?
[01:04] <fabio> no?
[01:05] <intelikey> !it
[01:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:05] <Xal2> what is a good onscreen keyboard?
[01:05] <Jucato> !universe | ubuntu
[01:05] <ubotu> ubuntu: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:07] <intelikey> After unpacking 357MB disk space will be freed.
[01:07] <intelikey> To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[01:07] <intelikey>  ?]  Yes, do as I say!
[01:07] <intelikey> hmmmm ooops.
[01:08] <intelikey> from ^ sudo apt-get remove --purge python*
[01:10] <BluesKaj> Jucato, success ! ...thx !
[01:10] <Jucato> nice :)
[01:10] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:11] <intelikey> looks like if it starts with a 'k' then removing python will remove it....
[01:12] <BluesKaj> I like the 'history" command in the terminal cuz one can go back to a reference command if one forgets :0
[01:12] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:12] <intelikey> BluesKaj uparrow...
[01:12] <londo4> how can I get into the root directorie?
[01:12] <intelikey> !hiden
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hiden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <intelikey> !hidden
[01:12] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[01:12] <|lostbyte|> BluesKaj, ctrl + r and type a little of the command.
[01:13] <BluesKaj> intelikey, upnarrow ?
[01:13] <intelikey> londo4 ^   konsole  cd /path...
[01:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj yes.  in the bash shell [up-arrow]  key
[01:13] <BluesKaj> oh ok ... DOH!
[01:15] <BluesKaj> well, "history" lists everything ... byut i like the uparrow as well.. cool!
[01:16] <intelikey> BluesKaj one can uparrow and then edit lines as well as using macros   man bash for all the fun stuff
[01:17] <ubuntu> what is mac on linux set under on the ubuntu repositories
[01:17] <ubuntu> *?
[01:17] <Dr_willis> !find mac
[01:17] <ubotu> Found: emacs, emacs-el, emacs-goodies-el, emacs-nox, emacs21 (and 89 others)
[01:17] <Dr_willis> Hmm... !apple
[01:17] <ubuntu> i tried mol, and searching "mac"
[01:18] <Dr_willis> thats a ppc thing?
[01:18] <ubuntu> yea
[01:18] <ubuntu> its so you can run mac OS in linux
[01:19] <robotgeek> ubuntu: mol, i think
[01:19] <tanlaan> robotgeek: only atomix comes up
[01:19] <robotgeek> tanlaan: momento
[01:20] <BluesKaj> !Bill Gates
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Bill Gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:20] <robotgeek> tanlaan: taken a look at the wikipage?
[01:20] <BluesKaj> !OSX
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OSX - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <tanlaan> robotgeek: nope
[01:22] <robotgeek> tanlaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacOnLinuxHowto
[01:24] <intelikey> that origenal 357m now another  58.1MB of libs via deborphan... i'll have some more free space now....
[01:25] <intelikey> now if i remove perl .......
[01:25] <intelikey> After unpacking 536MB disk space will be freed.
[01:30] <ineedehelp> ok, I am completely lost....how in the heck do I install the kde enviroment in ubuntu?
[01:31] <ineedehelp> hello
[01:32] <Dr_willis> the kubuntu faq tells ya. :P
[01:32] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:32] <ineedehelp> well
[01:32] <intelikey> ineedehelp sudo apt-get install kde
[01:32] <Dr_willis> and watch it go.,
[01:32] <fildo> is there any issues with qt ? in kde
[01:33] <Dr_willis> fildo,  Hmm... id hope not. :)
[01:33] <fildo> let me rephrase that, known issues?
[01:33] <Dr_willis> heh
[01:33] <Dr_willis> not any that i am aware of.
[01:33] <ineedehelp> ok, that was what I needed....the faq (from what I could see) just told me WHAT I needed to install, and not how
[01:33] <Dr_willis> ineedehelp,  simple way from a shell ------->  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:34] <Dr_willis> or fire up synaptic and search for 'kubuntu-desktop'
[01:34] <Jucato> ineedehelp: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[01:35] <Zarephath> Hey Dr_willis : How goes it?
[01:35] <Dr_willis> how Zarephath
[01:35] <Dr_willis> testing out some demos of some games..
[01:36] <Dr_willis> FizzBall - is an amusing game . Not free however.
[01:36] <Dr_willis> but almost worth the $20 - considering i spent the last hr+ playing the demo..
[01:36] <ineedehelp> ok, thanks guys...I guess I'll see how this goes
[01:37] <ineedehelp> also, any good book reccomendations?
[01:37] <intelikey> ineedehelp rute-book
[01:38] <mildner> any german here
[01:38] <BluesKaj> !de
[01:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:41] <ryanakca> the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is ubuntu-desktop vs kubuntu-desktop, right?
[01:41] <Jucato> basically, GNOME vs KDE
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Yep.
[01:42] <ryanakca> thought so
[01:42] <Dr_willis> I install them both. :)
[01:43] <ryanakca> I have a pile of window managers installed :)
[01:43] <Jucato> you don't have e17?
[01:43] <ryanakca> probably do...
[01:43] <Jucato> aewm? hm... never heard of that one
[01:44] <ryanakca> aewm - a minimalist window manager for X11
[01:44] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, so you choose which desktop at the login page ?
[01:45] <Jucato> aren't they all minimalist already? (aside from xfce, gnome and kde) :P
[01:45] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  exactly
[01:45] <Dr_willis> thers lots of diffrent window managers to play with. :)
[01:46] <ryanakca> Jucato: afterstep isn't THAT minimalist
[01:46] <Dr_willis> from the uberlight to the uber-heavy
[01:46] <Jucato> ah
[01:46] <Dr_willis> Afterstep is sort of old-skool. :)
[01:46] <Dr_willis> I like Windowmaker for a alternative
[01:47] <ryanakca> I have Enlightenment as well
[01:47] <Dr_willis> puppylinux uses jwm which is very very light
[01:47] <Dr_willis> then ya got others with different design goals.
[01:47] <Dr_willis> MatchBox (not related to fluxbox/blackbox) then the other XYZbox's
[01:47] <Dr_willis> wmx, wmii, icewm (a nice one also)
[01:47] <Dr_willis> sawfish (or is it sawmill now?)
[01:48] <Jucato> heheh
[01:48] <ryanakca> icewm is nice
[01:48] <Jucato> there's already fluxbuntu I think, or whatever it's called
[01:48] <ryanakca> yeah
[01:48] <Dr_willis> yes - thats a work in progress i hear.
[01:48] <ryanakca> fubuntu: fvwm + ubuntu
[01:48] <Jucato> the ebuntu never took off it seems
[01:48] <ryanakca> fubuntu95 = fvwm 95 + ubuntu
[01:49] <ryanakca> what happened to zUbuntu?
[01:49] <ineedehelp> well, I'm a n00b at linux (I am usually a computer nerd, but we didn't have enough money for me to have my own computer, and my family won't let me install on our shared computer, so this is my first time with linux)
[01:49] <Dr_willis> How about a "SelectWhatWHenYouInstallUbuntu"
[01:49] <ryanakca> a SWWYIUbuntu?
[01:49] <Dr_willis> ineedehelp,  live cd + a usb memory stick = easy way to have linux. :)
[01:49] <ryanakca> like most distros now adays?
[01:50] <Jucato> hm... how about PSUbuntu3
[01:50] <ryanakca> even though you'd undup with like 4 cds...
[01:50] <Dr_willis> Dont even get me started on SONY...
[01:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:50] <ryanakca> lol
[01:50] <Jucato> WUbuntii?
[01:50] <family> I'm getting a crash every time I attempt to launch Konsole, anyone else ?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> WTFubuntu :_
[01:50] <ryanakca> Goobuntu
[01:51] <Jucato> hm... looks like a nice naming alternative... put prefixes and suffixes around *ubunt* or *bunt*
[01:51] <ineedehelp> well, I finally got the CD in the mail (live in the country, so our sattelite only has a 512k connection), and I think I'm going to go buy a book on linux tonight
[01:51] <family> what command shows the packages, and the version of them ?
[01:51] <Jucato> ineedehelp: before you go buy a book, you might want to check out the Kubuntu Desktop Guide that comes with the installation
[01:52] <family> and is there a way to easily _downgrade_ to my prior installed package of konsole/kde ?
[01:52] <Dr_willis> ineedehelp,  theres lots of online docs.. and some better live cds out then the Ubuntu ones.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> depends on what you want to do  for the most part however.
[01:52] <Jucato> the Desktop Guide can be read offline for your viewing convenience
[01:52] <Jucato> ah yes, better Live CD's...
[01:53] <Dr_willis> New version of PuppyLinux just came out. :)
[01:53] <Dr_willis> testing out MCNLive also.
[01:53] <ineedehelp> hmmmm, ok, thanks. I just like to tweak everything and get a feel for whats going on. I guess I'll just have to snoop around a bit
[01:53] <ineedehelp> thanks
[01:53] <family> Dr_willis: think I might be in need of a downgrade, got a second to help me identify versions of my Konsole/kde, and get me started on trying a lower version
[01:53] <family> Dr_willis: right now Konsole crashes every time I try to start it
[01:54] <Dr_willis> family,  ive never heard of anyone needing to do a downgrade like that...
[01:54] <ryanakca> family: apt-cache show package
[01:54] <Dr_willis> family,  as a test.. go to the console, and create a new user, then login with that user and see if the same problem happens
[01:54] <family> Dr_willis: Trevios Ubuntu Edgy Sources list
[01:54] <family> # http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/?page_id=13
[01:54] <Dr_willis> also you may want to 'sudo apt-get install xterm' so you can try launching xterm, instead of konsole.
[01:54] <ryanakca> what was mtp (port 57)?
[01:55] <family> Dr_willis: good idea, if not I can just nuke my prefs or /tmp -- riiight ;)
[01:55] <Dr_willis> kde settings are in .kde
[01:55] <Dr_willis> IF the new user works.. it may be a .kde/* settings issue
[01:56] <family> Dr_willis: crash reports a lib error, want me to drop it on pastebin ?
[01:56] <family> !pastebin
[01:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <Dr_willis> family,  proberly wont do me much good to see it.
[01:57] <Dr_willis> family,  it crashes with the new user still?
[01:57] <family> I find it strange, if it is a lib error that its the only thing I've seen act up
[01:57] <family> Dr_willis: I'll go create the user... one sec I just tried nuking .kde/share/conf/konsolerc
[01:59] <Dr_willis> egads - if you have been using that site for your apt repos list.... thats scary. :)
[01:59] <Dr_willis> I tend to add a site i need... then install the stuff.. then remove it from my sources.list (or comment it out)
[01:59] <ryanakca> why don't we use #flood?
[01:59] <Dr_willis> its too damp and musty
[01:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:59] <Jucato> too flooded?
[02:00] <Jucato> :)
[02:00] <family> Dr_willis: you talking to me on the sources.list egads ?
[02:00] <ineedehelp> ok, so which is better? KDE or Gnome? because I am still having trouble getting KDE t even install
[02:00] <jeff_> hi, all
[02:00] <ryanakca> why don't we use #flood?
[02:00] <family> Dr_willis: going to do the new user now... wish me luck
[02:00] <Dr_willis> yea - thats a bit extreme family
[02:01] <ryanakca> ineedehelp: KDE :) in terminal/console run: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[02:01] <family> Dr_willis: yeah, been messing with that the last couples days, and starting to think it was a mistake
[02:01] <ryanakca> I mean, it depends on your personal preference
[02:01] <jeff_> stupid question -- I've got a new Edgy install here, and the Disks & Filesystems manager is telling me I can't use NFS file systems with the currently installed kernel.
[02:01] <Dr_willis> family,  heh - i got that site bookmarked... but im not THAT brave to use it.
[02:01] <Dr_willis> :P
[02:02] <jeff_> I installed nfs-common, but I'm used to Mandr[ake|iva] , which needed the nfs-utils rpm.  What package am I missing here to allow my machine to act as a NFS client?
[02:02] <Dr_willis> !nfs
[02:02] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:03] <jeff_> Dr_willis: ah, thanks.  I didn't know there was a bot in-channel.
[02:03] <Dr_willis> !bot
[02:03] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:06] <ineedehelp> ryanakca: I tried that, but it give me an error telling me my packages are broken
[02:07] <ryanakca> ineedehelp: pastebin please
[02:07] <ineedehelp> do I need to get some other ones? the ubuntu website told me my disc should come with it
[02:07] <ineedehelp> Reading package lists... Done
[02:07] <ineedehelp> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:07] <ineedehelp> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[02:07] <ineedehelp> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[02:07] <ineedehelp> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[02:07] <ineedehelp> or been moved out of Incoming.
[02:08] <ryanakca> !pastebin
[02:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:08] <ryanakca> ineedehelp: what commands are you running? can you pastebin your sources.list please?
[02:09] <sponix> Dr_willis, crashes under this user as well, exact same lib error
[02:09] <sponix> Dr_willis, could you post a sane sources.list for me so I can have it for the reinstall ?
[02:10] <BonBonTheJon> has source-o-matic been updated for edgy
[02:10] <sponix> BonBonTheJon, not that I've seen
[02:10] <ineedehelp> oj crap
[02:10] <ineedehelp> I gtg
[02:10] <ineedehelp> I'll try again tonight....peace
[02:10] <Dr_willis> !source
[02:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[02:11] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:11] <Dr_willis> wait a sec..not sure that last one supported edgy yet.
[02:11] <Dr_willis> heh.
[02:11] <sponix> nope, or I would have used it
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !sources.list
[02:11] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:11] <BonBonTheJon> yeah, who is in charge of source-o-matic?
[02:11] <Dr_willis> of course chagneing your sources.list NOW is a bit late. :)
[02:13] <sponix> yeah... plan to just nuke/reinstall but want a sane sources.list first
[02:13] <Jucato> wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato has a sane sources.list
[02:13] <Jucato> let me make that clickable... http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato
[02:14] <Jucato> that very much the default sources.list that comes with Edgy
[02:15] <sponix> is there an easy way to make apt compare what I have against the current of the sane one, and step down ?
[02:15] <Dr_willis> !apt
[02:15] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:15] <Dr_willis> heh... that would be an interesting thing to do.
[02:15] <Dr_willis> remove all programs tht came from alternative repos...
[02:19] <Petzi> moin
[02:19] <sponix> what was the command to show all installed pkg's and their version etc ?
[02:19] <BonBonTheJon> sponix: dpkg -l
[02:19] <Varjat_by> Hi! Is anybody try to install LIRC on Kubuntu?
[02:20] <fildo> no
[02:20] <fildo> konversation is better
[02:20] <fildo> or bitchx
[02:20] <BonBonTheJon> fildo: I agree
[02:20] <fildo> sudo apt-get install konversation / bitchx
[02:20] <fildo> nice n simple
[02:20] <Varjat_by> dmesg write the following : [17180030.876000]  lirc_dev: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted
[02:21] <Varjat_by> What does it mean?
[02:21] <Varjat_by> [17180030.876000]  lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at major 61
[02:21] <Varjat_by> [17180195.492000]  lirc_gpio (-1): could not get card type
[02:21] <BonBonTheJon> fildo: different LIRC
[02:22] <gupta> Whle compiling something: checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[02:22] <gupta> what's up? package missing?
[02:22] <Jucato> gupta: have you installed "kde-devel"?
[02:22] <gupta> let me check
[02:22] <wildchild> !kde-devel
[02:22] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[02:23] <wildchild> what is kde-devel used for
[02:23] <Jucato> for compiling kde apps
[02:23] <wildchild> aa
[02:23] <Jucato> anything related to kde development
[02:24] <gupta> urgh, its not installe and needs to update kfind/kicker to install :(
[02:24] <intelikey> is there any substitute/alternative for the ppp package ?
[02:25] <gupta> total 77mb.. any other alternatives?
[02:25] <Jucato> gupta: none. you need kde-devel to compile kde apps
[02:25] <Jucato> although I'm not sure why kfind and kicker would be upgraded in the process
[02:25] <wildchild> how can I set konqueror that the view wuld be "tree view"
[02:25] <wildchild> it's allways "icon view"
[02:26] <Jucato> View menu -> View Mode
[02:26] <Jucato> the Settings -> Save View Profile as....
[02:26] <wildchild> tnx..
[02:27] <intelikey> Unable to open vt 2: Permission denied
[02:27] <voidmage> I have a weird thing going on, sometimes /proc/cpuinfo reports the wrong cpu speed
[02:27] <wildchild> jucato, how can I set that conkqueror will automatically run "my profile"
[02:27] <wildchild> automatically = when start konqueror
[02:28] <intelikey> wildchild save as default
[02:28] <Jucato> kfmclient openProfile "profile" or konqueror --profile "profile"
[02:29] <sponix> Dr_willis, BonBonTheJon fixed konsole with a forced remove, and downgrade by apt-get -f install
[02:29] <intelikey> Jucato can't he save the profile as "default" and do as much ?
[02:30] <sponix> Dr_willis, what is in multiverse ?
[02:30] <Jucato> well, I was presuming he made his own because of the "my profile" reference
[02:30] <Dr_willis> an addational repository of not officialy supported packages
[02:30] <Dr_willis> !multiverse
[02:30] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:30] <wildchild> kfmclient: Unknown option '--profile'
[02:30] <wildchild> kfmclient: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[02:30] <Dr_willis> whats in it.. specificially.. no clue. :)
[02:30] <intelikey> Jucato ah   well i was assuming it was an extention of the tree view Q
[02:32] <intelikey> so my bad again....
[02:32] <Jucato> wildchild: I said "kfmclient openProfile "profile""
[02:32] <Jucato> or "konqueror --profile "profile""
[02:32] <Jucato> btw, it would probably be best if you just modified the existing profiles (if you want0
[02:32] <Jucato> anyway, afk for now
[02:33] <intelikey> anyone know of any alternative to ppp package   i refuse to reinstall perl on this system and it seems that ppp depends on perl.
[02:33] <intelikey> ?
[02:33] <Dr_willis> well aint you a Ellitist..
[02:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:34] <intelikey> some times....
[02:34] <intelikey> :)
[02:34] <intelikey> but i see no reason that i should have to have perl just to connect to the inet.
[02:35] <Dr_willis> The internet runs on perl!
[02:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> its all about the pipes!
[02:35] <Dr_willis> Al Gore Invented Perl!
[02:35] <intelikey> no.  it runs on smoke.    remember.
[02:35] <intelikey> but bill didn't inhale
[02:35] <Dr_willis> actually i think it runs on Coal. :)
[02:36] <Dr_willis> MS pattented the Internet!
[02:36] <Dr_willis> ;)
[02:36] <intelikey> ;/
[02:36] <intelikey> M$ pattented .   and  -  and  !=  too.
[02:37] <mildner> please again the german page
[02:38] <intelikey> !de
[02:38] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:38] <intelikey> not that ^ ?
[02:41] <lrentz_> Anyone have an idea why my sudu command stopped working on the command line?
[02:41] <intelikey> lrentz_ group change ?
[02:41] <lrentz_> No.
[02:41] <family> Dr_willis: every package updated from that repos had 3v1 in the name, so I just nuked all them, and now I'm updating to get the originals back :P
[02:41] <intelikey> lrentz_  sudo echo working ?
[02:41] <family> Dr_willis: worked for Konsole, might keep another few issues from cropping up later
[02:42] <intelikey> if it says working back at you it is...
[02:42] <lrentz_> let me see
[02:42] <Dr_willis> apt-get remove * :)
[02:42] <lrentz_> just says sudu command not found.
[02:42] <lrentz_> Is installed though.
[02:42] <intelikey> cause sudu is not sudo
[02:43] <lrentz_> Came from suse.  Installed Kubuntu a few days ago after partnership with M$.  Taking me a bit to get use too from Suse.
[02:43] <Trevinho> family, did you get problems with my repos?
[02:43] <lrentz_> Didnt know that root was disabled by default.
[02:43] <intelikey> lrentz_ if you pasted that error.  it's pebcak   typo
[02:44] <lrentz_> didnt paste it. Just typed it.
[02:44] <lrentz_> bash: sudu: command not found
 just says sudu command not found.   <--- typo some where.
[02:44] <intelikey> lrentz_ :)
[02:45] <intelikey> lrentz_ let me say this real slowly.    S U D O
[02:45] <family> Trevinho: yeah... Could have used you a sec ago :)
[02:45] <intelikey> O O O O !
[02:45] <mildner> hi
[02:45] <Trevinho> ehm?
[02:45] <family> Trevinho: just put a nuke out on your packs .. Had a crashing Konsole .. want the error report ?
[02:45] <skipjack> hello, who can I find out whoch charset my Kubuntu system has ?`
[02:45] <Trevinho> mh, have you mailed me?
[02:45] <mildner> anyone who may help about kubuntu
[02:45] <Trevinho> here it works well :/
[02:45] <family> Trevinho: I nuked it forced, and then downgraded to the vanilla one, and it works
[02:46] <Trevinho> mhmh
[02:46] <lrentz_> crap.
[02:46] <lrentz_> hehehe
[02:46] <intelikey> :)
[02:46] <family> Trevinho: I saved the crash log gerated by kde into a text file
[02:46] <Trevinho> the package I built (if you don't know should support REAL transparency...
[02:46] <lrentz_> I am just so used to typing su
[02:46] <Trevinho> ok...
[02:46] <Trevinho> good
[02:46] <Trevinho>  send it me, please
[02:46] <lrentz_> thanks. for slapping me in the head.  I needed it.
[02:46] <Trevinho> are you running beryl?
[02:46] <mildner> is there any tool on the grafical desktop for partitioning the HD
[02:46] <lrentz_> ;)
[02:46] <intelikey> yeah that was a good one lrentz_ but i'm not ready to abdocate the throne just yet.   i'm still typo king here.
[02:47] <Trevinho> or compiz instead.....
[02:47] <Trevinho> maybe.....
[02:47] <Trevinho> it could be buggy :/
[02:47] <lrentz_> Thanks for the help anyway.
[02:47] <intelikey> np
[02:47] <Trevinho> family ?
[02:48] <family> !pastebin
[02:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:48] <intelikey> lrentz_ if you like having access to the root account it can be enabled.   it's not recomended by the "ubuntu team" but all that is required is setting a root passwd
[02:49] <gupta> I get this when running wayv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33791/
[02:49] <intelikey> the ubuntu way is to only use the root jr. account    sudo -i   for a root shell.
[02:49] <lrentz_> Yes.  I did read that.  I had it enabled.  But I disabled it again.
[02:49] <family> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33792/
[02:49] <family> Trevinho: thats the error I kept getting
[02:49] <Trevinho> ok, a related question family
[02:49] <intelikey> lrentz_ k  just thought i'd mention.
[02:49] <lrentz_> another question if you have time?
[02:49] <Trevinho> did you run beryl while launching konsole?
[02:49] <Trevinho> and.....
[02:49] <intelikey> sure
[02:50] <Trevinho> are you using latest kubuntu binaries?
[02:50] <family> Trevinho: never heard of beryl .. and I am running the one from the kubuntu.org latest repos
[02:50] <Trevinho> mh
[02:50] <lrentz_> Just got a new laptop.  Core 2 duo.   Kubuntu recognized the dual cores. but give this message:
[02:51] <lrentz_> [17179608.272000]  APIC error on CPU0: 00(40)
[02:51] <lrentz_> [17179608.272000]  APIC error on CPU1: 00(40)
[02:51] <Trevinho> so why have you installed my konsole? it should be in the beryl repo......
[02:51] <Trevinho> ah.....
[02:51] <Trevinho> mh
[02:51] <Trevinho> maybe you've my sources.list
[02:51] <Trevinho> of you've it, comment the repo (beryl-svn)
[02:52] <Trevinho> becouse that file is suggested to beryl users only.....
[02:52] <Trevinho> anyway I'll try to fix it..
[02:52] <lrentz_> It does not seem to scale the frequencies.  Always says 1000 mhz.  Even .in intensive apps.  Its a 2 ghz Core 2 duo
[02:52] <family> Trevinho: I might have had beryl turned on.. I had most on at one point
[02:52] <Trevinho> mh
[02:53] <family> Trevinho: I just went back to a standard sources.list
[02:53] <Trevinho> becouse that version supports transparency if there's a composite manager
[02:53] <Trevinho> anyway here it works fine :/
[02:54] <Trevinho> it's so strange :/
[02:54] <lrentz_> Intelikey: any ideas?
[02:54] <intelikey> lrentz_ actually you haven't asked anything.  but before you do.   i don't have duo so i probably wont be much help there.   you should search on the ubuntu wiki's    for info on that.  there has been some chatter about scaling   but i haven't kept up with it.
[02:55] <intelikey> !wiki
[02:55] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:55] <intelikey> !wiki | lrentz_
[02:55] <ubotu> lrentz_: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[02:55] <lrentz_> Ok,  Thanks.  I will check it out.
[02:56] <intelikey> lrentz_ if you can't find anything there.  check back here.
[02:56] <intelikey> k.   luck with it.
[02:56] <lrentz_> Definately will.  Alway get good help with the community.
[02:56] <lrentz_> You guys are awesome.
[02:57] <family> Trevinho: probably me not having matching libs or something odd
[02:57] <crxyem> anyone here know of a descent slax irc channel that's active besides the one here at freenode ?
[02:58] <intelikey> crxyem efnet i think
[02:58] <crxyem> I'll try there
[02:58] <crxyem> thanks
[02:58] <Mlcloud> efnet...
[02:58] <Mlcloud> meh.
[03:00] <Trevinho> family, maybe.. but it loads the same I think
[03:01] <Trevinho> please pastebin me the resoult of "ldd /usr/bin/konsole"
[03:03] <family> Trevinho: I already downgraded ... I can do it on my current one though (it runs fine)
[03:04] <Mlcloud> Is kubuntu Edgy supposed to detect network cards automatically within the system settings->network connections?
[03:05] <intelikey> well looks like i'll have to totally hack this thing to get ppp to work on it
[03:05] <Mlcloud> lshw detects the card, but the network settings itself doesn't list anything
[03:06] <Mlcloud> nooo one?
[03:06] <JohnFlux> Hey all!
[03:06] <JohnFlux> I love you all!
[03:07] <family> Trevinho: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33798/
[03:07] <Trevinho> thanks
[03:16] <keaton> This is a really, really stupid question, but how do I save a document in vim?
[03:17] <robotgeek> keaton: :wq filename
[03:18] <keaton> I'll try that, brb
[03:26] <bobindy> hi
[03:26] <pdrobe> hi
[03:26] <bobindy> do you know how to set up a kubuntu network
[03:26] <bobindy> cause I don't
[03:26] <xsacha> !samba
[03:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:27] <Dr_willis> the phrase 'network' is very broad. :)
[03:28] <Dr_willis> plug all the pcs into the right hubs/routers and see if they can ping each other.. if they can.. you are networked.
[03:28] <bobindy> I have two computers with ethernet and kubuntu
[03:28] <bobindy> they aren't speaking
[03:28] <Dr_willis> they both plug into a hub/router/switch?
[03:28] <bobindy> the network works flawlessly with windows
[03:28] <bobindy> yes pluged into hub
[03:29] <bobindy> dlink cards in both
[03:29] <campbch__> does anyone use/has seen eclipse?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> bobbyd,  that 'flawlessy in windows logic' never means much.. other then the hardware is working. :) so thats good..
[03:29] <bobindy> kingston hub
[03:29] <Dr_willis> bobbyd,  so get on the konsole on each..
[03:29] <bobindy> you are right
[03:29] <Dr_willis> run 'ifconfig' see what ip each machine has.
[03:29] <Dr_willis> example -->  inet addr:192.168.1.101
[03:29] <bobindy> ok
[03:30] <Dr_willis> from one machine.. ping the ip of the other.
[03:30] <bobindy> how do I ping
[03:30] <Dr_willis> ping 192.168.1.101
[03:30] <Dr_willis> networking FUNdamentals
[03:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:30] <bobindy> I know doc
[03:30] <Dr_willis> use the ip of one of the other  machines.
[03:30] <bobindy> but you gotta help me
[03:31] <Dr_willis> both machines DO have ip #'s right? and they are not the same # ?
[03:31] <bobindy> yes I assigned them numbers
[03:31] <bobindy> but I will go and run the ifconfig
[03:31] <bobindy> brb
[03:31] <Dr_willis> so ifconfig eth0
[03:31] <Dr_willis> should show the stats/info on each box's network
[03:33] <bobindy> yes
[03:34] <bobindy> it did and one of the numbers was different than what I expected
[03:34] <Dr_willis> like 192.168.1.101 and  192.168.1.102  differnt? or   192.168.1.101  vs 255.255.255.255 differnt? :P
[03:35] <bobindy> one was192.168.0.47
[03:35] <bobindy> and the other was 127.0.0.1
[03:36] <Dr_willis> well every machine has 127.0.0.1
[03:36] <Dr_willis> thats localhost.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> there should be a eth0 ip.. unless the network card is not confogured right
[03:37] <Dr_willis> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[03:37] <Dr_willis>           inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[03:37] <Dr_willis> and
[03:37] <Dr_willis> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:11:09:88:83:9F
[03:37] <Dr_willis>           inet addr:192.168.1.101  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[03:37] <Dr_willis> are what my current machine has.
[03:37] <keaton> Resolution problem on my ATI 9200: I've managed to get Xserver running, but now I can't get a non-widescreen resolution greater than 1024x768. It offers 1152x768 as a choice, but when I try to set it there it pops up the 'click okay to keep this setting' box but the resolution stays the same. Same thing happens if I set it to a higher resolution, I switch to 1152x768 but it stays at the higher resolution.
[03:38] <bobindy> maybe I need to go back and change the address again
[03:38] <bobindy> I did earlier but it changed
[03:39] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  its possible one network card dosent have the modules loaded.. there should be some eth# for each one.. this is a wired network right?
[03:39] <bobindy> yes
[03:39] <Dr_willis> keaton,  you installed the fglrx drivers yet?
[03:39] <bobindy> how do you load the modules
[03:39] <bobindy> I think you are on to something
[03:39] <Dr_willis> modprobe whatevermoduleyouneed
[03:39] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is normally good at networkcard detection...
[03:39] <keaton> Dr_willis: I don't know, I'll check.
[03:40] <Dr_willis> keaton,  im guessing thts a NO then. :)
[03:40] <bobindy> they are both the same type card
[03:40] <Dr_willis> !fglrx
[03:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:40] <bobindy> is modprobe a command
[03:40] <Dr_willis> try 'lsmod' on each box to see what modules
[03:40] <Dr_willis> are loaded
[03:40] <bobindy> ok
[03:40] <bobindy> brb
[03:40] <xsacha> http://www.hexus.tv/ :P crysis
[03:40] <Dr_willis> Usage: modprobe [-v]  [-V]  [-C config-file]  [-n]  [-i]  [-q]  [-Q]  [-b]  [-o <modname>]  <modname> [parameters...] 
[03:44] <fyrmedic> how does one go about enabling a pcmcia card slot so I can use a wireless networking card?
[03:44] <bobindy> so use modprobe -v
[03:45] <xsacha> just modprobe modname is fine, and lsmod to check if it is loaded
[03:46] <aoeuid> when trying to install 6.10, my keyboard doesn't work properly
[03:46] <bobindy> fatal modprobe modname not found
[03:46] <bobindy> should it be sudo
[03:47] <Dr_willis> modprobe  the_name_of_the_module_you_need_to_load
[03:47] <Dr_willis> sudo modprobe  the_name_of_the_module_you_need_to_load
[03:47] <Dr_willis> heh heh >:)
[03:47] <aoeuid> >.>;
[03:47] <Dr_willis> and you compare lsmod output on both machines to be sure of the network card module name.
[03:48] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  what kind of keyboard?
[03:48] <aoeuid> I'm using an HP pavillion dv9000
[03:48] <bobindy> what is the name of the module
[03:48] <aoeuid> :/
[03:48] <aoeuid> notebook
[03:49] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  Hmm..  may be some quirks with that noteboot. There are Ubuntu Wiki/forum sections on various notebooks/laptops
[03:49] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  could also try a usb keyboard to see if that works properly.
[03:49] <aoeuid> I don't have on
[03:49] <aoeuid> e
[03:49] <Dr_willis> egads
[03:49] <Dr_willis> I must have 12+ keyboards on a shelf.. heh heh:)
[03:50] <aoeuid> lol
[03:50] <Dr_willis> I really need to clean some of those...
[03:50] <Dr_willis> coffe stains that are 3+ yrs old..
[03:50] <aoeuid> xD
[03:50] <aoeuid> where on the forums?
[03:50] <JohnFlux> Dr_willis: just wait until they are older and leave home
[03:52] <aoeuid> I tried just searching the forums but there's nothing useful specifically for this one
[03:53] <Dr_willis> ttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:53] <Dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:54] <bobindy> so I modprobe the etho0
[03:54] <aoeuid> heh
[03:54] <bobindy> and nothing
[03:54] <aoeuid> they don't even have the dv9000
[03:54] <ryanakca> how do I block all services from the outside except ssh, http and https? I've been messing around with iptables all day with no success... Firestarter and Guarddog are not what I'm looking for. Any suggestions?
[03:54] <aoeuid> it was only released not too long ago :/
[03:55] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  that may be an issue.
[03:55] <aoeuid> yeah
[03:55] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  there may be a similer but older model.
[03:55] <aoeuid> hmm
[03:55] <bobindy> ok well I thank you for your help
[03:55] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  block everything.. then allow only those services.. would be the logical way.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  was the module not loaded on one machine?
[03:56] <bobindy> I module etho0 not found
[03:57] <bobindy> I typed sudo modprobe etho0
[03:57] <aoeuid> none of the older ones say anything about the keyboard not working right
[03:57] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  look at lsmod output on box #1, look at lsmod output on box #2.. those are a list of the modules loaded on each one
[03:57] <bobindy> k
[03:57] <aoeuid> is there any way I could set the keyboard layout myself?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> eth0 is NOT a modulename, nor  is eth0
[03:57] <ryanakca> Dr_willis: block everything, and then... it really blocks everything. I can't access irc or ftp or mail or anything servers, only ssh, http, https ones
[03:57] <aoeuid> OH
[03:57] <aoeuid> also
[03:58] <aoeuid> when I hit too many keys it goes to the cli
[03:58] <Dr_willis> r8169                   is the modulename for MY  machines network card.. based on the Realtek 8169 chipset
[03:58] <aoeuid> and at that point the keyboard works fine
[03:58] <aoeuid> >_<
[03:58] <Dr_willis> aoeuid,  gets weirder and weirder...
[03:58] <aoeuid> :(
[03:58] <aoeuid> yeah..
[03:59] <bobindy> tell me again how to look at ismod
[03:59] <bobindy> please
[03:59] <Dr_willis> lsmod
[03:59] <Dr_willis> is the command..  LiSt MODules
[03:59] <bobindy> says bad command
[03:59] <Dr_willis> lsmod  program to show the status of modules in the Linux Kernel
[04:00] <bobindy> command not found
[04:00] <bobindy> oops
[04:00] <Dr_willis> either your paths are screwed up.. or you are typing it wrong..
[04:02] <bobindy> I typed it wrong
[04:02] <bobindy> It is working now thanks for your patience
[04:03] <bobindy> what should I be looking for in the module list
[04:04] <Dr_willis> if the machines are identical - there MAY be a differance in the list.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> lspci should show some hint as to what network card you have.. and then you look in the list and double check to see if a simileray named module is loaded.
[04:04] <bobindy> ok
[04:05] <Alter-Ego> i am getting the following error while booting up after having my machine turned off last night
[04:06] <Alter-Ego>  /bin/sh can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)
[04:08] <bobindy> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Cont
[04:09] <bobindy> lspci
[04:09] <bobindy> intel_agp              22940  1
[04:10] <bobindy> lsmod
[04:10] <family> how do I turn off the stupid Kubuntu loading/shutdown logos and see the status text again ?
[04:11] <Dr_willis> agp would be a video card thing bobindy
[04:12] <Dr_willis> eppro or somthing eith   82562 in the name may be the network.. or ya could google for   '82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet  card linux 'and see what shows up
[04:12] <Dr_willis> however IF the 2 machines are identical,. and have identical lsmod outputs.. then we may be looking in the wrong area.
[04:13] <Dr_willis> family,  i normally use the nofb/nosplash options for grub to disable the eye candy
[04:13] <klerfayt> vga=normal
[04:14] <aoeuid> so is there any way that I could change what keys on the keyboard do what just with the livedisc?
[04:14] <fyrmedic> Does anyone know of a usb wireless lan adaptor that will work with debian or kubuntu?
[04:14] <family> Dr_willis: thanks ... either its hanging on shutdown/restart or just taking an extra long time
[04:14] <family> Dr_willis: imho it should take less time to shut down than start up :P
[04:15] <family> Dr_willis: the lil kubuntu image on shutdown keeps refreshing (screen flicks off then back on), but the bar doesn't seem to move
[04:15] <aoeuid> and without using the keyboard?
[04:15] <aoeuid> <_<
[04:16] <aoeuid> I can't even connect to the net since I need the keyboard to type in the network key >_<
[04:16] <bobindy> I have an idea doc I'll be back later
[04:16] <bobindy> thanks
[04:16] <fyrmedic> No takers? How about a wireless networking card (pcmcia)?
[04:18] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: I have DWL-G650, uses madwifi
[04:18] <Dr_willis> fyrmedic,  it pays to use google.. and see what the various Linux laptop/desktop makers sell and suggest.
[04:19] <fyrmedic> Dr_willis: yeah I know I have been working on that
[04:19] <fyrmedic> BonBonTheJon: thanx I'll look for that.
[04:20] <fyrmedic> BonBonTheJon: that's a card not usb right?
[04:20] <BonBonTheJon> fyrmedic: card
[04:20] <fyrmedic> BonBonTheJon; thanx
[04:30] <Zaire> k somethings wrong with apt..I edited the sources list and uncommented the necessary repos and now it says it can't lock the admin directory
[04:30] <family> !optimize
[04:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optimize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:31] <family> darn, I lost a good bookmark on how to optimize had prelink info
[04:31] <Zaire> !optomize
[04:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about optomize - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <eean> what is kdevelop called?
[04:35] <eean> in apt land
[04:37] <klerfayt> eean: kdevelop
[04:37] <eean> erm
[04:37] <eean> it doesn't appear to be in the default repos then?
[04:37] <eean> I'm using edgy
[04:38] <klerfayt> eean: correct; universe
[04:40] <eean> ok thanks
[04:40] <Jucato> !kdevelop
[04:41] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[04:49] <intelikey> logout segmentation fault !
[04:52] <intelikey> i'm getting "system bootup in progress - please wait"  when i try to login  and  logout seg fault   if i logout
[04:53] <intelikey> i ran /etc/rmnologin.sh    but it didn't change anything   any thoughts ?
[04:59] <intelikey> i rm'd /etc/nologin  but still can't login     ?
[05:01] <klerfayt> what is correct way to create package request? email?
[05:02] <intelikey> did you look on the ubuntu home page ?
[05:04] <family> where did they move inittab ?
[05:04] <family> vi inittab gives me nada (nothing)
[05:05] <voker57> Hi, why my Opera isn't working?
[05:07] <intelikey> family unless you are in /etc  then vi inittab should yeld nada
[05:07] <thill2708> family: type "locate inittab"
[05:07] <DekKeD> I am trying to compile Kile (a Latex editor) and when I do configure I get this, I don't know what package I should get since I seem to have them all: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation!
[05:08] <thill2708> DekKed: type "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt"
[05:08] <voker57> Opera cannot connect to Internet. Dunno why, konqueror worx good
[05:08] <family> intelikey thill2708 : edgy doesn't have inittab anymore
[05:09] <voker57> Why can it be?
[05:10] <voker57> hey
[05:10] <DekKeD> thill2708: "libqt3-mt is already the newest version."
[05:11] <intelikey> family you did not specify edgy.  but with any linux the inittab would be in /etc   that's all i was saying.   edgy uses upstart.  man upstart  for info.
[05:11] <family> intelikey: thanks
[05:12] <intelikey> now if i can get this box so i can login again.....
[05:12] <thill2708> DekKed, why aren't you just apt-get installing kate?
[05:12] <thill2708> why compile?
[05:14] <DekKeD> thill2708: because I am using TexLive, and for eg. if I install Kile from the repos it gets TeTeX and removes TexLive
[05:14] <intelikey> thill2708 kile != kate
[05:14] <DekKeD> Kile is much better for latex editing than Kate
[05:14] <sgorilla80> anyone mess with bluetooth stuff in ubuntu?
[05:14] <intelikey> DekKeD kile is in the repos too
[05:14] <fribuntu> family: My edgy has an inittab.
[05:15] <DekKeD> intelikey: look at what I just wrote :P it depends on Tetex, and it removes my Texlive
[05:15] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Well, use emaccs with auctex. Even better than Kile :)
[05:15] <intelikey> DekKeD disreguard saw your post to late.
[05:15] <DekKeD> intelikey: that's why I want to compile
[05:15] <DekKeD> :P
[05:15] <DekKeD> never used Emacs before
[05:15] <Omnifrog> boo\
[05:16] <robotgeek> vim + latexsuite == love
[05:16] <DekKeD> vim?
[05:16] <Dr_willis> Latex Suit? You Pervert!
[05:16] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: heh
[05:16] <intelikey> vim = vim improved
[05:16] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Emacs + auctex is really nice for LaTeX
[05:17] <robotgeek> intelikey: as opposed to vi, improved?
[05:17] <bobindy> anyone know what this means? a zeroconf daemon (mdnsd is not running)
[05:17] <fribuntu> DekKeD: You should give it a try. Ctrl+C, Ctrl+C (twice) is the universal command for everything :)
[05:17] <intelikey> recursive acronym
[05:17] <family> fribuntu: this fresh install of Kubuntu/edgy doesn't it uses /etc/event.d/tty*
[05:17] <Dr_willis> means you dont have a zeroconf deamon. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> running.
[05:18] <bobindy> yes
[05:18] <bobindy> yes
[05:18] <DekKeD> fribuntu: downloading :P
[05:18] <fribuntu> family: So?
[05:18] <bobindy> how can I fix that
[05:19] <fribuntu> DekKeD: You most likely will have to customize emacs fonts before it looks any way decent. That can be some pain.
[05:19] <DekKeD> fribuntu: i hope there is some guide in the Ubuntu Forums
[05:19] <fribuntu> DekKeD: For Emacs?
[05:20] <bobindy> durn daemon
[05:20] <bobindy> I hope he burns in hades
[05:20] <intelikey> and why can't i install man   apt-get install man  does a "Note, selecting man-db instead of man"    who did that ?
[05:20] <fribuntu> DekKeD: try http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/
[05:21] <DekKeD> fribuntu: yes, I'm on that site now
[05:21] <bobindy> darned my network to heck
[05:22] <bobindy> anyone know how to get that daemon running again
[05:22] <bobindy> he
[05:22] <bobindy> hea
[05:22] <Dr_willis> bobindy, im not even sure what its used for.
[05:23] <bobindy> does the zeroconf need some sort of command
[05:23] <bobindy> to enable
[05:23] <bobindy> what is the zeroconf anyway
[05:24] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  what has you thinking you even need that?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> last i looked in to it. zeroconf was sort of a 'work in progress' and not needed by anything yet.
[05:24] <DekKeD> fribuntu: I have just installed emacs, no menus are created, any way of starting it if it's not from console?
[05:24] <bobindy> because when I try to use network services I get a warning about it
[05:25] <bobindy> don't you use network services to enable the network
[05:25] <Dr_willis> bobindy,   you got your machines pinging each other yet?
[05:25] <intelikey> ok somebody hold my hand a minute here.   i can su to users 1 2 & 3   but  su - user4   just sits idle for about 2 minutes and times out....  what is the deal ?     commands issued by root btw.
[05:25] <bobindy> I'm stuck
[05:25] <bobindy> where I was before
[05:26] <bobindy> I switched out a network card
[05:26] <bobindy> and that didn't help
[05:26] <Dr_willis> bobindy,  im thinking zeroconf is not the thing to be worring about.. if you cant even ping each machine/get an ip for each of them..  ypu got some deeper issues
[05:27] <bobindy> let me try it in window and make sure everything is right
[05:27] <bobindy> both machines are dual boot
[05:27] <bobindy> brb
[05:31] <intelikey> also getting { Unable to cd to "/home/name" }    but ls -l shows   drwx------ 22 name, root....   i don't understand what i'm not seeing  ???
[05:32] <intelikey>  login: name
[05:32] <intelikey> Unable to cd to "/usr/local/src"
[05:32] <intelikey>  login:
[05:33] <Dr_willis> huh
[05:33] <Dr_willis> you made a user with the name of 'name' ?
[05:33] <intelikey> err call that Unable to cd to "/home/name"    so you can understand it.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ok :) lol
[05:34] <Dr_willis> why would it cd to /usr/local/src
[05:34] <Dr_willis> check the passwd file for a start? my entry for me is..
[05:34] <Dr_willis> willis:x:1000:1000:willis,,,:/home/willis:/bin/bash
[05:34] <intelikey> Dr_willis yes i have made a user with the name name and the passwd passwd    but not this one.
[05:35] <intelikey> Dr_willis the passwd file has correct info   and it coresponds to the error messages.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> i was wondering if there was a special service called name..   :)
[05:35] <intelikey> wouldn't matter if there was.  that's not the actual info.
[05:36] <Dr_willis> my home dir has the following permissions
[05:36] <Dr_willis> drwxr-xr-x 59 willis willis  4096 2006-11-24 23:10 willis
[05:36] <intelikey> mine is drwxr-------
[05:36] <Dr_willis> mine is owned by willis willis also.. Hmm
[05:36] <intelikey> mine by name root
[05:37] <intelikey> mine by $name root    <--- if that helps.
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Yea.. not sure why that would be that way.
[05:37] <fribuntu> DekKeD: There should be a menu entry in "Development"
[05:37] <intelikey> primary group is root.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> Hmm..  I dont mess with groups much at all. but in /etc/group i got a  group for  each user.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> willis:x:1000:
[05:39] <Dr_willis> peggy:x:1001
[05:39] <DekKeD> fribuntu: I don't have that menu
[05:39] <intelikey> i don't.    but that's not the problem.
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Ok. Mr smarty pants.. what is the problem then.. :P i got totally sidetracked...
[05:39] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:40] <intelikey> in fact i don't have a group for any user.   primary user is in group root     all others are in group users
[05:40] <fribuntu> DekKeD: It was created for me automagically when I installed Emacs.
[05:41] <fribuntu> DekKeD: However, you can add it manually, if you want it :)
[05:41] <intelikey> Dr_willis i copied things from a backup disk and somehow it hosed that one account.  i've rebuilt it but it still can't login.
[05:41] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Which flavour of Emacs did you install by the way?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  now thats.. odd.
[05:42] <fribuntu> DekKeD: This is true only for Emacs without X up front in the name. XEmacs might be different.
[05:44] <DekKeD> fribuntu: I got "emacs" package from repos
[05:44] <intelikey> if it was something simple i would not have mentioned it.   if it was something really really simple i may have overlooked it....
[05:44] <Dr_willis> heh - the users .bashrc isent all weird?
[05:44] <parker`> firefox vs. konqueror as a web browser, any opinions on the matter? I've noticed certain situations where firefox will crash where konqueror will handle the errors better and won't crash
[05:45] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Well, can you start it by shell?
[05:45] <fribuntu> parker`: Well, konqueror does not display some pages correctly that firefox runs fine.
[05:45] <Dr_willis> Only time ive seen firefox crash is  due to flash issues.
[05:46] <fribuntu> parker`: And konqueror is even more bloated than FF 2.0
[05:46] <parker`> fribuntu: any examples off the top of your head? just want to check it out
[05:46] <intelikey> Dr_willis it may be in the ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile i'm looking now.
[05:46] <fribuntu> parker`: Sure. Try http://nwn.bioware.com/ and check out the menues on the left ...
[05:47] <DekKeD> fribuntu: yes, thats really a minor problem :P
[05:47] <parker`> fribuntu: ah, the menus will not pop up, hm
[05:48] <parker`> anyone know why aimfight.com crashes on ubuntu?
[05:48] <parker`> does it require flash 8 or something?
[05:48] <fribuntu> parker`: And I have no idea why. It is rather annoying though.
[05:48] <intelikey> Dr_willis nothing in either that should cause any trubble.   .bashrc has 5 aliases and one function   .profile has one line   . /etc/profile    that's not a problem.
[05:48] <fribuntu> parker`: No, i have no flash installed. It is not a flash site.
[05:48] <fribuntu> parker`: Some javascript issue.
[05:48] <linuxbomb> the menus work fine here
[05:48] <parker`> fribuntu: I meant aimfight.com
[05:48] <fribuntu> linuxbomb: Using what browser?
[05:49] <linuxbomb> ff
[05:49] <parker`> lol
[05:49] <parker`> they work on FF, they don't work on konqueror is what we're saying
[05:49] <fribuntu> linuxbomb: Yeah, that is no problem. We are talking about konqueror not being able to handle them.
[05:50] <fribuntu> parker`: I have come accross some more sites like that. But I cannot remember their URLs
[05:50] <linuxbomb>  firefox vs. konqueror as a web browser, any opinions on the matter? I've noticed certain situations where firefox will crash where konqueror will handle the errors better and won't crash
[05:50] <parker`> ? that's my message lol
[05:50] <intelikey> Dr_willis this gets wierder yet... i chowned it to root so the user couldn't access his home and i can su to the user     chown it back and su just hangs then times out....
[05:50] <DekKeD> linuxbomb: my vote goes for Opera :P
[05:50] <linuxbomb> parker whats so funny
[05:51] <linuxbomb> mozilla suite
[05:51] <intelikey> not actually hung,  just times out.
[05:51] <parker`> just wondering why you copy and pasted my message, were you just re-asking?
[05:51] <fribuntu> DekKeD: Naw, even more bloated than FF and Konqueror combined.
[05:51] <DekKeD> bloated? it rox
[05:51] <DekKeD> best browser experience
[05:51] <fribuntu> parker`: Well, both browsers handle that site well ... let me start a game on both.
[05:52] <parker`> fribuntu: aimfight.com works for you?? it crashes instantly for me
[05:52] <parker`> fribuntu: on FF, konqueror doesn't crash, but it won't load the game either
[05:52] <fribuntu> parker`: Works fine here
[05:52] <parker`> fribuntu: what version of flash player you running? 7 or 8?
[05:52] <parker`> is 8 even out for linux?
[05:53] <fribuntu> parker`: 9
[05:53] <fribuntu> parker`: the beta
[05:53] <parker`> fribuntu: how would I go about aprehending that?
[05:53] <fribuntu> parker`: Hang on ...
[05:54] <Dr_willis> aimfight.com works for me.
[05:54] <parker`> Dr_willis: which flash player?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> 9 i think
[05:54] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> theres flash at the site?
[05:54] <parker`> yeah, that must be my problem, I'm running 7
[05:54] <fribuntu> parker`: Sorry, I have flashplayer 7 installed. Package is "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:55] <parker`> fribuntu: hmm I have flash 7, too, but it crashes every time I try to load it.
[05:55] <Dr_willis> guess that intro anime is flash.. how.. uesless.
[05:55] <fribuntu> parker`: But you can get 9 at Adobe directly.
[05:55] <parker`> I know it uses flash because I had to install flash to view the site
[05:55] <billytwowilly> so if I had a request for the next release where would I send that? well, not a request, just the default is stupid in akregator.. archives all articles... hella slow with feeds that get lots of articles..
[05:56] <fribuntu> parker`: Well, anything with "aim" in it is poop.
[05:56] <fribuntu> parker`: Even that silly game :)
[05:56] <fribuntu> parker`: Don't install flash just for that site.
[05:57] <parker`> fribuntu: yeah, I know, but it still bugs me that my browser is crashing for *any* site
[05:57] <fribuntu> fribuntu: Which plugin did you install? The "nonfree" one?
[05:57] <fribuntu> aha
[05:57] <fribuntu> I am getting tired
[05:57] <fribuntu> talking to myself again :)
[05:57] <fribuntu> I meant parker` of course.
[05:58] <parker`> fribuntu: I had to accept a license to install, so I'm pretty sure that's nonfree
[05:58] <intelikey> i don't get it.   su user   just sits there until it times out     chown 0:0 -R /users/home     and  su user  badabing it works but i cant access my home....
[05:59] <fribuntu> parker`: they are both non-free. But just one mentions it in the name, I think.
[05:59] <parker`> fribuntu: I come from Gentoo so I am new to apt... I am typing apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but it's not finding it
[05:59] <Dr_willis> !flash
[05:59] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:00] <Dr_willis> !find flash
[06:00] <ubotu> Found: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 6 others)
[06:00] <Dr_willis> i forget how i installed it..
[06:01] <parker`> I <3 portage, apt is weird to me right now
[06:02] <Dr_willis> I perfer apt :)
[06:02] <parker`> ubuntu is much better for my laptop though, gentoo takes way too much damn time to setup twice lol
[06:02] <Dr_willis> *buntu does great on my laptop as well
[06:03] <parker`> plus built-in wireless drivers
[06:03] <parker`> big plus
[06:03] <parker`> is there a way to hack kubuntu to allow su?
[06:03] <Dr_willis> theres no 'hacking' needed
[06:03] <Dr_willis> root user just dosent have a password.
[06:04] <klerfayt> one thing I do not like is that new power management in edgy doesn't allow to limit cpu freq
[06:04] <Dr_willis> so set one. :)
[06:04] <parker`> ah okay
[06:04] <parker`> ahh perfect
[06:04] <Dr_willis> its like a "linux profiecny' test.. :P see if you can figure out how to do it. then you can...
[06:04] <parker`> why didn't I think of that? :D
[06:04] <fribuntu> parker`: you probably need to add the right repository to your /etc/apt/sources-list
[06:04] <intelikey> well i'll be a god knoted rascal
[06:05] <intelikey> Dr_willis i found it
[06:05] <intelikey> it was the  . /etc/profile  line in  ~/.profile      cause /etc/profile had . ~/.profile   in it.....   loop
[06:06] <parker`> bah, ubuntu doesn't have any mirrors at my school like gentoo does!
[06:06] <parker`> I'm sure the guide covers all the repos and stuff right?
[06:06] <intelikey> so i rm'd 2g of files for naught.
[06:07] <intelikey> oh well.
[06:07] <parker`> anyone know how ksh differs from bash?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  heh - i was THINKING that earlier... but dident say anything. :)
[06:08] <Jasey> hello there. is the latest konsole package in edgy broken? it crashes before it even starts up, on my pc o_o
[06:08] <Dr_willis> i dident even think .profile was used much any more
[06:11] <Dr_willis> Jasey,  ive seen no issues with it.
[06:12] <Jasey> im stuck using xterm for now
[06:12] <Dr_willis> but i do recall someone e4lse in here today with some sort of konsole crashing issues.. but he had so many 'other'  repos added.. not sure what caused the problem.
[06:13] <Jasey> oh. well the only other repo i have is a bleeding edge edgy repo for wine =\
[06:14] <klerfayt> Jasey: reinstall konsole
[06:14] <Jasey> ive tried
[06:15] <Jasey> thats the first thing i do =\
[06:15] <Jasey> im going to force konsole back to an older version for now
[06:15] <klerfayt> Jasey: I had trouble with transparent color schemes now they work
[06:15] <Jasey> i dont use transparent colour schemes lol
[06:15] <klerfayt> Jasey: maybe it is config file?
[06:15] <Jasey> doubt it. it was working fine, then i did a dist-upgrade with apt-get, and voila it isnt working
[06:16] <klerfayt> Jasey: look into ~/.xsession-errors
[06:16] <Jasey> nah i just found what was wrong
[06:16] <bobindy> dr will
[06:16] <bobindy> one more question
[06:16] <Jasey> looks like some one added some repos to my sources list on apt. which is typical. lol.
[06:18] <bobindy> is there a place where all the hardware is listed
[06:18] <bobindy> like the control panel in windows
[06:18] <linuxbomb> bobindy: hwbrowser
[06:18] <bobindy> hwbrowser
[06:18] <bobindy> in system settings
[06:19] <bobindy> ?
[06:19] <linuxbomb> nevermind they must have gotten rid of hwbrowser
[06:19] <bobindy> oh
[06:19] <linuxbomb> kinfocenter
[06:19] <bobindy> where is that
[06:19] <linuxbomb> system
[06:20] <klerfayt> bobindy: open konsole and ryn lshw
[06:20] <klerfayt> *run
[06:21] <bobindy> ok
[06:21] <klerfayt> *no - type in and hit enter
[06:21] <klerfayt> :D
[06:21] <gupta> server-install with normal dapper cd possible?
[06:22] <gupta> by server install I mean the stripped-down install that cuold be done with earlier ubuntu's from the command line
[06:23] <Jucato> no. you need to use the Alternate Install CD
[06:23] <bobindy> yes it is there
[06:23] <bobindy> product: 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controlle
[06:23] <bobindy> thanks
[06:23] <klerfayt> bobindy: some info about your hardware is in "kinfocenter" found in kmenu
[06:25] <bobindy> thanks again
[06:25] <bobindy> yes it is there as well
[06:27] <bobindy> I see samba status there as well
[06:27] <bobindy> can I set up samba from there
[06:27] <klerfayt> !s
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <klerfayt> !samba
[06:27] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:27] <bobindy> yes I know
[06:27] <klerfayt> !hardware
[06:27] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:28] <bobindy> a separate issue
[06:28] <bobindy> but another thing I want to solve
[06:28] <bobindy> I have a dual boot machine
[06:28] <klerfayt> !dualboot
[06:28] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[06:28] <bobindy> and would like to access the windows side
[06:28] <bobindy> dark side
[06:28] <klerfayt> !grub
[06:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:29] <notech> geez, give him a chance to state what his issue is
[06:32] <bobindy> does this look right?configuration: broadcast=yes driver=e100 ip=192.168.0.1 multicast
[06:33] <ineedehelp> ok, back to my installing of the kde enviroment on ubuntu
[06:33] <ineedehelp> ^_^
[06:33] <bobindy> just to be sure what is the procedure when I am trying to access the other computers on my network
[06:36] <klerfayt> bobindy you could also try #ubuntu channel if you can't get answers to your technical questions
[06:37] <bobindy> I might go over there but how do you access your network
[06:38] <klerfayt> no idea
[06:38] <klerfayt> !network
[06:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:38] <klerfayt> !windows
[06:38] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[06:39] <bobindy> ubotu who was that directed at
[06:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who was that directed at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <bobindy> really a simple question
[06:40] <bobindy> but ok thanks for your help
[06:45] <bobindy> well so I guess I'll go
[06:45] <bobindy> thank as least I know my ethernet card is recognized
[06:46] <bobindy> that is a plus
[06:48] <ineedehelp> !microsoft
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <klerfayt> !vole
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <jackrazz> anyone here using kexi with postgresql?
[07:04] <Brydenn33> anyone up
[07:04] <Brydenn33> i need some help not really regarding kubuntu
[07:04] <pip> Hello
[07:04] <Brydenn33> hi pip
[07:04] <pip> how to edit locale
[07:04] <Brydenn33> what?
[07:04] <pip> I want to add support for my native language
[07:05] <pip> Brydenn33: Hi,do you know how to edit locale ?
[07:05] <robotgeek> pip: K-Menu -> System Settings -> Regions and accessibility, maybe?
[07:05] <Brydenn33> i dont knw
[07:06] <pip> robotgeek: ok,let me see
[07:07] <Brydenn33> robotgeek
[07:07] <Brydenn33> are you in the USA?
[07:07] <robotgeek> Brydenn33: why do you ask?
[07:07] <robotgeek> yes, though
[07:07] <Brydenn33> i need some help reporting some cyber criminal activity and dont know how
[07:07] <Brydenn33> didnt really know who to go to hehe
[07:08] <Brydenn33> i'd like to email the school that's UN-knowingly hosting the site
[07:08] <Brydenn33> i got an email from PayPal
[07:08] <robotgeek> Brydenn33: i don't know, call up their ISP maybe?
[07:08] <Brydenn33> but it wasnt from paypal
[07:08] <Brydenn33> how?
[07:08] <Brydenn33> naw dude
[07:08] <Brydenn33> its a FISHING site
[07:08] <Brydenn33> a fake PayPal
[07:08] <pip> restart x
[07:08] <Brydenn33> and its being hosted on an .edu
[07:09] <Brydenn33> it's really gay
[07:09] <Brydenn33> anyway, i guess i'll try doing some research
[07:09] <Brydenn33> bbl guys
[07:18] <seven> are all multiverse packages non-free?
[07:19] <Jucato> seven: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components
[07:20] <Jucato> scroll down to the bottom about multiverse
[07:20] <seven> thanks
[07:33] <notech> Brydenn33: you give the information to paypal and let them handle it
[07:39] <notech> Brydenn33: If you think you have received a fraudulent email, forward the entire email to spoof AT paypal.com and then delete it from your email account.
[07:50] <logan1> why is there a nvidia packaage for kernel 2.6.17-11 but not matching kernel, All I can find is 2.6.17-10
[07:59] <smoenux> does anyone know of a good Screencast program that will work on top of XGL ?
[07:59] <smoenux> !screencast
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screencast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <renato> what's a screencast?
[08:00] <renato> ...and who gets called back?
[08:00] <renato> sorry, lousy joke
[08:00] <renato> I'm sleepy
[08:04] <smoenux> lol
[08:05] <smoenux> screencasts is when you record what you do on the desktop
[08:05] <cpt|willard> smoenux: you on ati?
[08:05] <smoenux> tutorial and/or demo vids are examples of screencasts
[08:05] <smoenux> nvidia
[08:05] <cpt|willard> why don't you just get the latest nvidia drivers?
[08:06] <smoenux> ???
[08:06] <smoenux> I think you may have misunderstood my earlier question
[08:06] <cpt|willard> yah...
[08:06] <smoenux> :P
[08:06] <cpt|willard> why are you running xgl?
[08:07] <smoenux> because it's nice ^.^
[08:07] <smoenux> and I must say that I enjoy the application switching
[08:07] <smoenux> I find it nice and fast
[08:07] <cpt|willard> Heh..if it didn't run X and Xgl i'd use it still..but i'm using latest nvidia drviers and beryl
[08:08] <smoenux> me too
[08:08] <smoenux> apparently they are working on having aiglx as standard in feisty
[08:09] <smoenux> will automatically install if you're pc supports it
[08:09] <cpt|willard> yah, and binary drivers as standard :-/
[08:09] <smoenux> yeah.... but personally I feel there is no easy way around that
[08:10] <cpt|willard> with nvidia it appears it may happen soonish but ati not much in sight
[08:10] <cpt|willard> an open source solution that is
[08:10] <smoenux> yeah... ati support is crap....
[08:10] <smoenux> even when i had a windows box, with a ati card.... had soooo much problems
[08:11] <smoenux> then I got a Nvidia, and all my problems are solved
[08:11] <cpt|willard> yah nvidia is pretty nice gotta love intel though
[08:11] <smoenux> really ?
[08:12] <smoenux> never had a intel card
[08:12] <cpt|willard> they aren't really that good..but for a laptop it's all you really need :P
[08:12] <smoenux> ah I see
[08:13] <cpt|willard> open drivers and easy setup for beryl
[08:13] <smoenux> I'm a designer and video editor, so, I do need something with a bit more punch... especially for 3d rendering and animation
[08:14] <cpt|willard> ah, makes sense
[08:14] <smoenux> with microsoft acknowledging the threat of linux, and trying to fight back, this might just give Adobe some inspiration to start making programs for Linux ^.^
[08:14] <smoenux> or so I hope :P
[08:15] <cpt|willard> well flash 9 is beta 2 for linux :D
[08:15] <smoenux> ooh
[08:15] <smoenux> I didn't know that
[08:16] <smoenux> time to go check it out !!
[08:16] <cpt|willard> yah :D google penguin.swf one of the devs blogs
[08:18] <smoenux> hehe... downloading the installer now :)
[08:22] <cpt|willard> smoenux: installer? i've just been downloading the beta of the plugin
[08:23] <smoenux> lmao... yeah... I just noticed... lol
[08:23] <smoenux> that's what happens if ur too hasty :P
[08:23] <cpt|willard> haha
[08:27] <phillijw> im trying to get ndiswrapper installed using the Wiki and it wont let me install it because it has unmet dependencies and crap. This is a fresh install of dapper, why the hell would it be giivng me problems like this?
[08:31] <smoenux> phillijw, have you checked the forums?
[08:31] <robotgeek> rather, have you check the wiki
[08:31] <smoenux> lol
[08:32] <robotgeek> phillijw: which card is this?
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> ok I have the nvidia legacy driver loading (installed the legacy package) and Ive install the glx-nvidia-legacy package,  added Load "glx" to xorg.conf  but xorg can load glx libs
[08:32] <phillijw> bcm43xx ... i was talking to you about it last night :)
[08:32] <phillijw> ive decided to try ndiswrapper because the regular driver is a piece of crap it seems
[08:32] <Linux_Galore> s/can/cant
[08:32] <robotgeek> phillijw: i tht you would have thrown that laptop out of the window my now :)
[08:32] <smoenux> ok... bye guys... I g2run
[08:32] <robotgeek> by now, err.
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> anyone had problem getting glx working with nvidia in edgy
[08:33] <phillijw> i would like to
[08:33] <Linux_Galore> I read half a dozen howto's and nothing works
[08:33] <robotgeek> phillijw: hmm, paste output somewhere please
[08:34] <Linux_Galore> also some of the howto's seem to be a great way to stuff up your install
[08:35] <Linux_Galore> Ubuntu will now be the first distro that I have never been able to get glx working on "every, even openbsd was easier
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> s/every"ever/
[08:36] <Linux_Galore> s/every/ever/
[08:37] <phillijw> http://pastebin.ca/257401
[08:37] <Linux_Galore> ooh yeah follow the howto, one small problem if you follow them apt goes and swaps all your kernel settings and install stuff that doesn work with each other
[08:37] <phillijw> battery is running out. type fast =D
[08:38] <Linux_Galore> so after a bit of hacking in vim I have got Kubuntu now to the stage it runs nvidia but wont run glxgears because well the official glx package doesnt work
[08:39] <phillijw> dont you jus thate linux?
[08:40] <robotgeek> phillijw: i think there might be a possiblity that your mirrors are outdated. (you are on edgy?)
[08:41] <phillijw> i'm on dapper
[08:42] <robotgeek> phillijw: weird. this is a clean install, right?
[08:42] <phillijw> nearly
[08:42] <robotgeek> phillijw: try installing python-glade2 manually
[08:42] <phillijw> havent really installed anything as far as I know
[08:43] <phillijw> it says that package is not available
[08:43] <pip> why can't my ark extract gz file ?
[08:44] <phillijw> robot, i think i may hav ejust found a problem
[08:44] <phillijw> in my sources.list the only sources that are uncommented are the universe multiverse
[08:44] <robotgeek> phillijw: please highlight my full name,
[08:44] <phillijw> the dapper main restricted ones say "Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify"
[08:45] <phillijw> does that seem like it would be the cluprit?
[08:45] <pip> why my ark can't extract .gz file?
[08:46] <robotgeek> phillijw: http://pastebin.ca/257405 is mine
[08:46] <robotgeek> pip: it should be able to, try it in cli
[08:47] <robotgeek> pip: is it tar.gz?
[08:47] <pip> robotgeek: No,I just downloaded a tar.gz file
[08:47] <robotgeek> pip: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz
[08:47] <pip> yea,it is
[08:47] <pip> why ark can't do that ?
[08:48] <pip> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[08:48] <Schalken> is it possible to connect to multiple proxy servers simultaneously?
[08:49] <pip> robotgeek: bug ?
[08:49] <notech> pip: file foo.tar.gz
[08:49] <pip> MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive
[08:51] <robotgeek> pip: try gunzip MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz:
[08:51] <notech> not sure, i'm not on kubuntu and mine gives a different response
[08:51] <pip> gunzip: MplayerAMRsupport.tar.gz: not in gzip format
[08:52] <robotgeek> pip: where did you download this file from? link please
[08:53] <phillijw> ndiswrapper still doesnt show up in the availble packages ugh
[08:54] <notech> did you update it too? when you edit sources.list you need to update it
[08:55] <phillijw> ya i did
[08:56] <pip> robotgeek: it is not fault of the site,when I use redhat ,I can extract it
[08:56] <pip> robotgeek: http://www.fastdump.net/16366
[08:58] <phillijw> bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present
[08:58] <phillijw> so far so good it seems
[09:00] <pip> robotgeek: can you extract it ?
[09:02] <robotgeek> pip: second
[09:02] <pip> : )
[09:03] <robotgeek> pip: no, there seems to be an issue with the file, it does not open :)
[09:04] <pip> OK,so strange, I can open it yesterday on redhat
[09:04] <robotgeek> pip: tar -xf works, though
[09:05] <pip> haha~~
[09:05] <robotgeek> pip: rename file to MplayerAMRsupport.tar and extract with ark
[09:05] <pip> I see
[09:06] <notech> oh, guess it did say tar archive for him.
[09:06] <pip> robotgeek: do you use mplayer ?
[09:06] <robotgeek> pip: nope, just kaffeine
[09:07] <pip> robotgeek: how to open real format ?
[09:11] <Healot> !win32codecs
[09:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:11] <robotgeek> pip: you need to install w32codecs
[09:11] <robotgeek> !restricted > pip
[09:12] <seven> anyone how can i make keybord shortcuts like send a text to an open window if done that before but i cant find it anymore    the text has to look something like that    Shift+F:a:c:k:i:n:g:Space:a:n:d:
[09:15] <Schalken> when i turn on proxy in kcontrol do i need to restart the interface for it to take effect?
[09:15] <pip> robotgeek: thanks
[09:15] <unix_infidel> just restarting networking should suffice
[09:15] <phillijw> gah! iwlist eth1 scan doesnt want to work
[09:15] <phillijw> when using ndiswrapper. this saddens me
[09:16] <unix_infidel> phillijw: what errors are you getting?
[09:16] <phillijw> none that i know of
[09:16] <phillijw> it just doenst find any networks
[09:16] <unix_infidel> odd.
[09:18] <phillijw> this laptop is useless to me without wireless
[09:19] <unix_infidel> phillijw: you should get errors if its not giving you a wireless itnerface.
[09:19] <unix_infidel> you probably set up ndiswrapper wrong.
[09:19] <phillijw> ndiswrapper gives me eth1
[09:19] <unix_infidel> do dmesg | grep ndiswrapper and put in pastebin.
[09:20] <phillijw> dmesg looks fine
[09:20] <phillijw> says it is loaded and stuff
[09:20] <phillijw> hmm.. werid
[09:20] <phillijw> [17184731.452000]  wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:90:4b:63:61:8f using driver bcmwl5a, 14E4:4324.5.conf
[09:21] <phillijw> it says wlan0 there but ends up coming up as eth1 for some reason
[09:23] <seven> got it its in the kcontrol but only if i start it from the console its not in the system settings ????
[09:24] <edgy> Hi, I just made a fresh installation from kubunt dvd and I noticed that the dvd is not added automatically in /etc/apt/sources.lst and I had to do manually sudo apt-g
[09:24] <edgy> sudo apt-cdrom add
[09:25] <edgy> this is beyond normal joe normal knowledge so is there a better way to do this without refering back to the command line?
[09:25] <Healot> use adept to add the CD-ROM repos
[09:30] <edgy> Healot: what shall I put on the adept repository text box? deb cdrom or what?
[09:31] <Healot> deb cdrom it is
[09:32] <Healot> you should look at Adept manual first... since you're GUI lovey lovey :)
[09:40] <pip> I need gtk devel package,what should i install ,the name of packages please !
[09:41] <pip> libgtk2?
[09:46] <klerfayt> pip: search for libgtk dev
[09:46] <klerfayt> pip: maybe all packages with "libgtk" in it
[09:48] <pip> OK,I see it now
[09:49] <Lynoure> Some time back I went for the new backport version of knetworkmanager, but it did not work for me so I went back to dapper default version. However, now knetworkmanager no longer notices networks appearing or disappearing. Is there something that can be done about this?
[09:54] <pip> which package contains libtoolize ?
[10:00] <klerfayt> pip: maybe libtool?
[10:13] <voker57> hi
[10:13] <voker57> Help! My opera cannot connect!
[10:14] <wizard> voker57: use firefox then
[10:15] <voker57> thanks. But i want Opera :)
[10:15] <voker57> but anyway gotta give it a try...
[10:16] <n3storm> morning
[10:17] <voker57> hi
[10:17] <wizard> voker57: im kidding, i am sure theres an easy fix for it
[10:17] <voker57> i hope
[10:18] <Danker> Hi
[10:19] <Danker> How do i create virtual desktop for one application?
[10:25] <Ace2016> HI all
[10:26] <Ace2016> how do i search for all the files which have "search term here" within them
[10:26] <Ace2016> not the file name but inside them
[10:32] <Ace2016> found it, konqueror can do it with search
[10:36] <trench-> hello everyone
[10:37] <d03boy> all zero of us
[10:37] <trench-> got a fresh kubuntu install...6.10...and i'm missing a few key apps for kde...kcontrol won't load for one
[10:37] <kkrusty> Hi, im getting this when i ./configure a program
[10:37] <kkrusty> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:37] <trench-> also looking for the Superuser mode on kde as well
[10:38] <guiden> trench: im not a pro but try adding the "settings" applet on your panel
[10:38] <Synapsi> is there anybody that can give me some installation infomration?
[10:39] <zerak> !tv
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <Synapsi> something like:is that possible to install over a ntfs partition?
[10:39] <zerak> !tv tuner
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <kkrusty> how can i know whether a package is installed or not?
[10:40] <Synapsi> is this chat only a question chat with "no answers"?
[10:40] <trench-> hehehehe
[10:40] <trench-> guess all the gurus are asleep
[10:40] <defrysk> Synapsi, a chat with volunteers trying to help others
[10:40] <defrysk> if you get no answer, noone here has it
[10:40] <Synapsi> yeah, I supposes this, but....how can I know who are the volonteers to ask to???
[10:41] <Synapsi> [10:43]  <defrysk> if you get no answer, noone here has it
[10:41] <Lynoure> Synapsi: you cannot install on a ntfs, ntfs writing support is still in beta
[10:41] <Synapsi> got it
[10:41] <Synapsi> ehehe...cool to know...
[10:41] <defrysk> yes
[10:41] <Synapsi> is that a beta I can try?
[10:41] <defrysk> and anoy volunteers you wil never get an answer
[10:41] <defrysk> so show repect and patience please
[10:41] <Synapsi> no problem...
[10:41] <Synapsi> i love you
[10:41] <Synapsi> guys
[10:42] <Synapsi> the fact is that I saw many questions and no reply and I wanted to undestand if this was a fake....a iguess it's not
[10:42] <Lynoure> Synapsi: yes, you can try ntfs writing if you wish
[10:42] <dissidentcitizen> hey guys, any idea when the newest katapult is being backported to edgy? I miss typing into Amarok....
[10:42] <kkrusty> can anyone tell me how i can know whether a package is installed or not?
[10:43] <Synapsi> [10:45]  <Lynoure> Synapsi: yes, you can try ntfs writing if you wish
[10:43] <Synapsi> thanks...I'll look tor that
[10:43] <trench-> kkrusty, Adept Manager
[10:43] <Lynoure> !fuse | Synapsi
[10:43] <ubotu> Synapsi: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[10:43] <voicu> !ftp
[10:43] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[10:43] <voicu> !smtp
[10:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:44] <voicu> what?
[10:44] <Lynoure> voicu: what do you want to know about smtp? It's a wide topic
[10:44] <voicu> setting up a simple and secure smtp server
[10:45] <voicu> last time i did that on windows i relayed like a million spam msgs
[10:45] <xsacha> hey anyone here know how bots will report pastebinning from upstream? like you have to type the irc channel? or..
[10:45] <kkrusty> im having problems with Qt- configuring an app gives me: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[10:46] <voicu> btw, can i receive mail on the smtp server or do i need another program? i.e. smtp is just for sending?
[10:48] <spurgeon> hey guys.... > why isn there reiser-support on ubuntu ?
[10:49] <Synapsi> thanks to everybody for soppurt...new frontiers in my mind
[10:49] <Synapsi> c ya all
[10:49] <zerak> anyone who have configured a hybrid tv tuner of the type hvr?
[10:50] <nuku> kkrusty: you probably need to install libqt3-headers
[10:50] <spurgeon> Linux phoenix 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:50] <trench-> sounds like a libtool issue
[10:51] <spurgeon> :P
[10:51] <kkrusty> nuku: i have libqt3-headers installed
[10:51] <spurgeon> I like Kubuntu, but i hate Ext3. its much too slow...
[10:51] <xsacha> me too spurgeon, i chose reiser at install instead
[10:51] <voker57> I have problems with accessing Internet from Konsole and Opera!
[10:52] <trench-> between ext3 and reiserfs, i highly doubt the speed difference is significant
[10:52] <voker57> Everything else worx good
[10:52] <spurgeon> but i cant choose reiser :S
[10:52] <xsacha> spurgeon: just make a reiser partition, then choose it at install
[10:53] <spurgeon> trench-: > if you have disk space above 200G available, you will know the difference
[10:53] <trench-> well then...format it to fs of choice before starting install
[10:53] <trench-> easy enough
[10:53] <spurgeon> xsacha: is there standard reisersupport for standard kernel ?
[10:53] <pip> how to open .chm file ?
[10:54] <xsacha> spurgeon: the kernel already has reiser support
[10:54] <trench-> you can use a gparted livecd
[10:55] <xsacha> just make the partition, choose it when you install
[10:55] <spurgeon> i did this trick ( workaround ) on debian but i had to compile a new kernel, because it stalled at boottime because of the lack of reisersupport in the kernel
[10:56] <xsacha> well this one has reiser :)
[10:56] <spurgeon> ok....
[10:56] <nuku> pip: there is kchmviewer and xchm you might want to install one of those...
[10:57] <spurgeon> Well, this is the first time i installed kubuntu and i must say, nice work. ( i started off about 6 years ago with slackware )
[10:58] <spurgeon> i am probably going to install -> / at ext3 and /usr at reiser then
[10:59] <pip> thanks
[11:03] <guiden> how do I get the default theme that kubuntu came with back?
[11:08] <kevin> good morning
[11:09] <kevin> can someone help me with a shutdown problem?
[11:10] <pip> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:10] <pip> kernel?
[11:16] <Morrissey> Is BERYL on KDE known to be very slow? Not the 3d effects (Theyr actually fast), but normal web browsing, etc etc?
[11:16] <Morrissey> Does it help upgrading ram? Have 2x256 now
[11:17] <trench-> Morrissey, i would attribute that more to your vidcard capability
[11:22] <pip> there are many kernel hearders available,which one to install ?
[11:23] <msl> Morrissey: more RAM always helps
[11:28] <Schalken> !lamp
[11:28] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:28] <Morrissey> trench-, what do you mean? Its a laptop with ATI radeon 9000 in it. all the 3d effects is very sharp :) Benchmark show me that I have over 200 frames/sec
[11:29] <trench-> Morrissey, ati has well known shortcomings as far as driver issues
[11:29] <trench-> when it comes to linux distros
[11:30] <trench-> most beryl users can attest to that
[11:30] <trench-> hopefully yours won't be so...but ati had been behind on driver dev
[11:31] <Morrissey> trench-, I know, but I made it work :)
[11:31] <trench-> i actually took my alienware laptop back for my ati be swapped for a Go7800
[11:31] <Morrissey> really
[11:32] <Morrissey> so youc an switch graphics card?
[11:32] <trench-> yea...it was just too troublesome.
[11:32] <trench-> since it was mainly a linux pc
[11:32] <Morrissey> I just have to be sure :)  http://h20195.www2.hp.com/V2/pdf/c00573300.pdf TO THIS http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.asp?sku=306537 .... is that correct?
[11:32] <trench-> nvidia drivers had been more mature
[11:33] <trench-> yes..that's fine
[11:33] <Morrissey> trench-, I got the latest open source drivers for fglrx, and 3d is really fast
[11:33] <Morrissey> thanks trench- :)
[11:33] <trench-> Morrissey, and that's beryl-svn, right?
[11:33] <trench-> then you're good to go
[11:33] <Morrissey> trench-, nah, beryl out of the beryl-repos
[11:33] <xsacha> "latest open source drivers for fglrx" huh?? lol
[11:33] <trench-> try to give the different beryl startup options a try
[11:33] <kraut> moin
[11:33] <Morrissey> xsacha, yes?
[11:34] <xsacha> fglrx are closed source
[11:34] <Morrissey> trench-, like?
[11:34] <Morrissey> xsacha, nah, you got them for open source as well :) Google em, youll see
[11:34] <trench-> like use-copy, use-cow, etc
[11:35] <Morrissey> trench-, oh, I start it with beryl-xgl
[11:35] <xsacha> Morrissey: you mean radeon open source driver? (not fglrx)
[11:35] <Morrissey> what is cow, and what is copy? :)
[11:35] <trench-> i meant to day, look at your beryl-manager options
[11:35] <Morrissey> xsacha, ya, of course, sorry
[11:35] <trench-> you'll see it there
[11:35] <xsacha> composite overlay window and copy method (non-tfp)
[11:36] <Morrissey> I dont have beryl-manager :) That
[11:36] <trench-> of course you do
[11:36] <Morrissey> I have to use beryl-xgl, and start emerald after that .. settings I change with beryl-settings :)
[11:36] <xsacha> beryl-xgl? you're using Xgl?
[11:36] <Morrissey> xsacha, obiously
[11:36] <trench-> type beryl-manager in console when things are started up
[11:36] <xsacha> so you're using closed source fglrx..
[11:37] <Morrissey> trench-, if I type that X hangs
[11:37] <trench-> weird...
[11:37] <Morrissey> xsacha, my xorg.conf says radeon
[11:37] <xsacha> you're using radeon in Xgl ?!?!
[11:37] <Morrissey> trench-, used about a week to figure all this out :) Its strange
[11:37] <xsacha> what has this world come to
[11:37] <Morrissey> xsacha, I dont have a XGL session I think .. I just log in normally, and start beryl-xgl, and it works
[11:37] <MetaBookfoziS> hy all! please help me my konsole won't start. [Kubuntu edgy on k7] 
[11:38] <trench-> Morrissey, have you tried aiglx with your opensource driver?
[11:38] <MetaBookfoziS> it starts and closes fast and shows kcrash window.
[11:38] <Morrissey> trench-, dont know, whats that?
[11:38] <trench-> alternative to XGL
[11:38] <MetaBookfoziS> please help, it's really annoying
[11:38] <xsacha> Morrissey: you shouldnt be using Xgl :S
[11:38] <trench-> seems to work better with opensource radeon
[11:38] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, try opening it with xterm and see if it outprints an error
[11:38] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok :) Do I use xgl? hehe
[11:38] <xsacha> use aiglx
[11:39] <Morrissey> how do I switch to aiglx? Never understood what to do different
[11:39] <MetaBookfoziS> nothing, it only says:KCrash: Application 'konsole' crashing...
[11:39] <xsacha> just start up a normal X session instead of an Xgl session Morrissey
[11:39] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, cat /var/log/syslog and see if it shows an error there
[11:39] <trench-> i got an old laptop with a radeon IGP/aiglx...works nicely for a slow machine
[11:39] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > i have isntalled debugging symbosl, so i can pastebin the error log, if it tells something to you...
[11:39] <MetaBookfoziS> ok
[11:39] <xsacha> do you have Xorg >= 7.1?
[11:39] <spurgeon> hey xsacha : when installing without using graphical installer > using costum partitioning it gives me the option to use reiser :P nice....
[11:39] <xsacha> spurgeon: yes :) of course
[11:40] <Morrissey> xsacha, ecacly what I do, I start a normal X session .. I have xorg>7,1 .. and I type beryl-xgl, and it works 200 frames pr sec
[11:40] <xsacha> spurgeon: the only problem is that particular software used for the GUI does not support reiser
[11:40] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > nothing
[11:40] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, yes, you can paste the debug info on pastebin then :) Lets have alook
[11:40] <Morrissey> xsacha, was that strange? :)
[11:40] <pip> where is the C hearder files for the running kernel ?
[11:41] <trench-> in the meantime, you can install yakuake while you're fixing konsole :)
[11:41] <xsacha> Morrissey: dont use an Xgl session, use a normal X session and enable composite.. then you'll be running with aiglx instead
[11:41] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33884/
[11:41] <Morrissey> xsacha, believe me, I have tried EVERYTHING, this is the only way to get beryl on my laptop :) hehe
[11:41] <xsacha> i mean you can stick with Xgl -- if you want -- but it is very buggy for me atleast
[11:41] <Morrissey> xsacha, thats what I do ... i have composite enabled, and I use a normal X session :=
[11:41] <trench-> well apparently you haven't tried aiglx :)
[11:42] <xsacha> Morrissey: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AIGLX              (last line says what?_
[11:42] <Morrissey> trench-, but my X session isnt XGL either .. so what is it? :)
[11:42] <xsacha> it's just Xorg
[11:42] <Morrissey> (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib/dri/r200_dri.so
[11:42] <Morrissey> :)
[11:42] <xsacha> ok good you're using aiglx, not xgl
[11:42] <trench-> aha..
[11:42] <xsacha> my guess is you've done the display numbers wrong
[11:42] <Morrissey> to sec MetaBookfoziS
[11:42] <xsacha> Morrissey: echo $DISPLAY
[11:42] <trench-> good then
[11:42] <MetaBookfoziS> okay
[11:43] <Morrissey> xsacha, :0
[11:43] <pip> where is the C hearder files for the running kernel ?
[11:43] <Morrissey> and yes MetaBookfoziS, use yakuake :) Its great
[11:43] <MetaBookfoziS> what is that?
[11:43] <xsacha> Morrissey: for some reason i think you put X on :1 following from what you have to do for Xgl
[11:43] <trench-> same as konsole
[11:43] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I would either use yakuake (recomended) or do a fonts reconfigure (sometimes fuck fonts up)
[11:44] <xsacha> a common mistake.. in the session it should be started on :0, then normal beryl will work fine and you dont have to use beryl-xgl
[11:44] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, it looks like it gives a font error
[11:44] <MetaBookfoziS> ok i try, but i think i have messed up something with notebook crash (i plugged off the ac adapter without battery:/)
[11:44] <MetaBookfoziS> so dpkg-reconfigre what?
[11:44] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, but I dont need to change anything? Or should I? I mean, everything works allright :) Just that standard browsing is quite slow and some other things
[11:45] <MetaBookfoziS> fontconfig?
[11:45] <b0ng0> ive just installed new nvidia drivers and for some reason they've changed my keyboard layout from UK to US, how can i change it back?
[11:45] <pip> no one answer me ?
[11:45] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config
[11:45] <trench-> kcontrol...regional settings...keyboard layout
[11:45] <pip> My adpet told me I have installed it
[11:45] <xsacha> Morrissey: yeah you have everything set up right.. you're on aiglx with composite and radeon but your display number in session is wrong -- this is why you have to use beryl-xgl at the moment (beryl-xgl defaults to display :1 instead of your default of :0)
[11:46] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh, ok .. but Im ok with that :) Thanks
[11:46] <xsacha> ok
[11:46] <trench-> probably the reason why beryl-manager is not working
[11:46] <Morrissey> xsacha, you have no idea how many hours I spent on getting it working :9
[11:47] <xsacha> Morrissey: nup, it's not that hard :P
[11:47] <Morrissey> trench-, yeah, but do I need beryl-manager? Im fine with using beryl.settings
[11:47] <trench-> Morrissey, if anyone will know beryl here, that'll be xsacha :)
[11:47] <xsacha> dont need it, i dont use beryl-manager
[11:47] <MetaBookfoziS> i have reconfigured fontconfig and fonctonfig-config, but it gives error, i'm pasting, a moment
[11:47] <Morrissey> xsacha, hehe, yeah, but theres many bad howtos out there, ecspeially for my hardware
[11:47] <Morrissey> xsacha, trench-: sweet :)
[11:48] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm, i think i need xrestart for font relaoding... moment
[11:48] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I would really do a "sudo apt-get install yakuake && yakuake" and press f12 :) Check it out
[11:48] <xsacha> yeah many howtos are outdated because you had to use Xgl just recently and a lot of things have changed so they'll give bad info
[11:48] <Morrissey> xsacha, wich hardware are you on?
[11:48] <b0ng0> i cant add any keyboard layouts
[11:49] <xsacha> radeon 9600
[11:49] <Morrissey> xsacha, exacly
[11:49] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, I have a 9000, is there a huge difference? Cant wait to get my RAM though :)
[11:49] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I would really do a "sudo apt-get install yakuake && yakuake" and press f12 :) Check it out
[11:49] <xsacha> not much
[11:49] <MetaBookfoziS> :(
[11:50] <MetaBookfoziS> yes, i try but i don'T think this problem only in konsole, i think i have some damaged files caused by the crashes
[11:50] <Morrissey> xsacha, do you use that copy/cat or something thingy? And does it improve perfomance?
[11:50] <xsacha> my card doesnt have 2d acceleration because it's  9600 :( and that pretty much evens it out
[11:50] <MetaBookfoziS> so i want to repair it, before i have other crashing apps
[11:50] <trench-> use-copy, and yes, it's helpful
[11:50] <MetaBookfoziS> and in otherways, krusader uses konsole, and it isn't starts without konsole.
[11:50] <xsacha> copy/cat? oh.. use-copy -- yeah i have to use that to get water effects :P
[11:51] <MetaBookfoziS> isn't start == kcrash ...
[11:51] <Morrissey> trench-, ok, thanks :)
[11:51] <MetaBookfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33885/
[11:51] <xsacha> beryl-xgl --use-copy
[11:51] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, have never seen that error before: any of you guys make any sence of this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33884/ ... looks like a font error
[11:51] <MetaBookfoziS> i have this after fontconfig reconfig, it's shorter than the before
[11:51] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, brb! ill give it a go
[11:52] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, I have to restart, brb
[11:52] <MetaBookfoziS> okay
[11:52] <xsacha> restart? :S
[11:52] <MetaBookfoziS> xrestart, imo
[11:52] <phanatik> guten morgen!!!
[11:52] <trench-> hehehe
[11:52] <`Alex`> so ... may i ask a question ? :D
[11:52] <MetaBookfoziS> gut, besser , gosser
[11:52] <trench-> windows flashbackl?
[11:53] <xsacha> ohhh morrissey isnt using svn, i just scrolled back and saw lol
[11:53] <trench-> flashback*
[11:53] <trench-> hahahaha
[11:53] <trench-> oh-oh
[11:53] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm, he is restarted completely:D
[11:53] <xsacha> LOL
[11:54] <trench-> i've only rebooted my pc twice since install...both for kernel updates
[11:54] <xsacha> i once managed to kill kernel.. sak wouldnt work so i needed hard reboot
[11:55] <xsacha> and another time i got frustrated and was just hoping that a restart would fix my problem, of course it didnt -- but in the time waiting for the reboot i figured it out
[11:55] <trench-> hehehe
[11:55] <`Alex`> so ... could you guys help me out a bit ? :D
[11:56] <MetaBookfoziS> xsacha > :D
[11:57] <`Alex`> MetaBookFoziS
[11:58] <`Alex`> cnan you answer a question for me pls ?
[11:58] <`Alex`> :D
[11:58] <MetaBookfoziS> if you didn't ask, i can't.
[11:58] <MetaBookfoziS> :) so don 't ask about you may ask... askit:D
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> if we can, we helps you...
[11:59] <trench-> xsacha, we got an ETA for the svn yet? :)
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> what is the main packages?
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> or kubuntu-desktop ?
[11:59] <`Alex`> oki ... well the problem is ... i boot the kubuntu CD . i choose install or run kubuntu ... and iti gives me a black screen with an error like hdb: timeout and something about dma and after that hdb: drive not ready for command
[11:59] <MetaBookfoziS> hopp sorry
[12:00] <trench-> drive could be failing
[12:00] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm, try gogling for it, i don't think you are alone with this problem
[12:00] <MetaBookfoziS> but i never saw that.
[12:00] <MetaBookfoziS> so i can't help on you.
[12:00] <`Alex`> any other linux release works
[12:00] <`Alex`> :/
[12:00] <trench-> could be a bad burn then
[12:00] <trench-> if as you said, other distros work with it
[12:00] <`Alex`> could it be the iso image ?
[12:01] <trench-> not the image, the way it's burned
[12:01] <xsacha> trench-: eta for it to go up?
[12:01] <`Alex`> oki
[12:01] <trench-> crappy media, etc
[12:01] <trench-> yes xsacha :)
[12:01] <`Alex`> thx
[12:01] <`Alex`> i'll burn it again
[12:01] <xsacha> well ixce said he was getting hammered and wanted svn mirrors -- do we have any svn mirrors lined up? :)
[12:01] <trench-> 'Alex', try to burn it slower
[12:01] <trench-> ahhh...
[12:01] <`Alex`> it was 16x
[12:02] <`Alex`> even slower v?
[12:02] <trench-> try slower
[12:02] <trench-> 8x
[12:02] <`Alex`> i had one at 32
[12:02] <`Alex`> i'l try another disk
[12:02] <trench-> coz the faster you burn, if the media is no good, you get a bad burn
[12:02] <`Alex`> bye
[12:02] <`Alex`> thx
[12:02] <`Alex`> i'll be back if it keeps showing it
[12:02] <`Alex`> :D
[12:02] <heinkel_111> on Dapper, there was a lot of status messages displayed at system start (under the kubuntu logo). Can that be enabled on Edgy?
[12:02] <trench-> goodluck
[12:03] <`Alex`> thx
[12:03] <xsacha> all my media is verbatim :)
[12:04] <trench-> those 100 packs always give troubles
[12:04] <trench-> sure it's a bargain
[12:04] <trench-> i won't trust sensitive data on them
[12:07] <Morrissey> xsacha, hi again :) I have enabled --use-cow, but no difference to anything though ... have you any recomendations concerning optimizing my performance? Som tags I should use with beryl-xgl or anything?
[12:08] <xsacha> oh btw Morrissey i just scrolled up after you left and saw you arent using the svn version 0.1.3
[12:08] <xsacha> you need 0.1.3 for --use-copy :S
[12:08] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh :) What does --use-copy do actually+
[12:08] <xsacha> it doesnt use texture from pixmap, so you dont need aiglx, Xgl or anything like that
[12:08] <heinkel_111> on Dapper, there was a lot of status messages displayed at system start (under the kubuntu logo). Can that be enabled on Edgy?
[12:09] <Morrissey> xsacha, you said that I use 0.1.3, and i need 0.1.3 for --use-copy :)
[12:09] <Morrissey> xsacha, will that improve perfomance?
[12:09] <trench-> 0.1.3 - svn
[12:10] <Morrissey> so I should get the non-svn? How would I do that :) =
[12:12] <Morrissey> wops, sory xsacha something went wrong here :) fell out :P But I should upgrade my beryl-xgl thing?
[12:13] <cox377> i'm havint this problem, i added a new hdd to my system last night and now just when loading live cd it throws up loads of errors, remove the hdd and the problems goes. does anyone know why this would be?
[12:13] <Schalken> I've just installed LAMP (well, the L was already installed), is apache set to start when the system boots by default?
[12:13] <trench-> perhaps jumper issues?
[12:14] <Morrissey> cox377, wich errors?
[12:14] <xsacha> Morrissey: if you want use-copy, you need 0.1.3
[12:14] <cox377> trench-: i've tried all the jumper settings
[12:14] <xsacha> it's not that much of a performance boost, i wouldnt worry about it, just some cool effects in 0.1.3 you're missing out on :)
[12:14] <cox377> Morrissey: it gives errors every step of the way of boot, the current errors are
[12:14] <cox377> squashhfs error
[12:14] <MenZa> Schalken: I'd assume you had to set /whatever/the/dir/is/lampp START to run on startup
[12:14] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh :P Ive seen the wather marks on youtube, looks like a system deprover :P
[12:14] <Morrissey> (if thats a word)
[12:15] <trench-> cox377, there's a slim chance it can be a bad hdd...have you confirmed it works?
[12:15] <Schalken> MenZa: i hadn't set anything, just installed the packages.
[12:15] <MenZa> oh
[12:15] <MenZa> Ah dunno.
[12:15] <Morrissey> isnt lamp in /etc/init.d/ ??
[12:15] <xsacha> Morrissey: deprover?
[12:15] <cox377> trench-: yup checked it, i mean it gives errors all the way through the boot
[12:15] <Schalken> MenZa: "apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server" that is
[12:15] <MenZa> I know xampp isn't
[12:15] <Morrissey> xsacha, opposite of improve :P hehe
[12:16] <xsacha> ah no, the effects work great :)
[12:16] <Schalken> Morrissey: i will have a look in init.d
[12:16] <xsacha> the big 3 for eating FPS are still: blur, water and trailfocus here
[12:16] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh, maybe I should upgrade .. how would I do that? I mean whats your repos for that
[12:16] <xsacha> beryl-svn repository...
[12:16] <Morrissey> xsacha, water's off, trailfocus is off .. blur? wheres that?
[12:17] <Schalken> Morrissey: there is a file called "apache2" in /etc/init.d, does that mean it will start on boot?
[12:17] <xsacha> blur effects
[12:17] <Morrissey> and blur is of :) nice
[12:17] <Morrissey> Schalken, not nesicarely, it just means its a system deamon ... you could make it bootable in system settings -> Advanced -> System Services I think
[12:18] <Morrissey> xsacha, ok, Ill look into those repos, thanks
[12:18] <Schalken> Morrissey: there isn't an 'advanced' section in kcontrol
[12:19] <Morrissey> Schalken, not kcontrol ... go to you kde-menu and press system settings
[12:19] <Morrissey> there should be an advance tab at the top
[12:19] <xsacha> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre2/48545-2.png <-- intel pci express :P
[12:19] <Schalken> Morrissey: errrr i have very custom KMenu
[12:20] <Morrissey> Schalken, kbfx :P Ok, two sec
[12:20] <Morrissey> Schalken, in kcontrol --> Sysmte Administration -> system Services
[12:20] <Morrissey> xsacha, whats the beryl-svn repo? cant find it
[12:21] <xsacha> tuxfamily one
[12:21] <Schalken> Morrissey: cool, it has 'yes' for 'start at boot' :D :D :D
[12:21] <Morrissey> Schalken, then you good to go :)
[12:21] <Morrissey> xsacha, deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[12:21] <Morrissey> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb edgy beryl-svn
[12:21] <Morrissey> thanks xsacha
[12:21] <cntb> \o guys  looking for openoffice channel . here on freenode or other network ? appreciate useful info
[12:22] <xsacha> Morrissey: there's a key you need too
[12:22] <Schalken> Morrissey: my webdev system is set up, cheers
[12:22] <cntb>  #kubuntu below 300 ppl ? go #kubuntu do !
[12:22] <Morrissey> Schalken, happy serving :)
[12:23] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh, wheres that key?
[12:23] <Morrissey> nm, I had it allready
[12:23] <xsacha> k
[12:24] <Morrissey> its on its way down .. so I should restart X, use beryl-xgl --use-copy then :)
[12:24] <meta> how can i reinstall kde on kubuntu?
[12:25] <trench-> adept manager...request reinstall installed kde components
[12:25] <meta> the apt-get install --reinstall kdebase is says kdebase-dev broken because some konsole version isn't able to install
[12:26] <SortOfThing> try to remove konsole et reinstall it
[12:26] <pascalFR> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[12:27] <meta> nope...
[12:27] <Morrissey> xsacha, got a bunch load of errors :( beryl-xgl: Couldn't load plugin 'resize'
[12:27] <Morrissey> beryl-xgl: '/usr/lib/beryl/libplace.so' plugin version does not match beryl version
[12:28] <Morrissey> ++++++ many more, and beryl-xgl didnt start :(
[12:28] <xsacha> Morrissey: you just updated beryl-core?
[12:28] <xsacha> Morrissey: need to update all packages
[12:28] <Morrissey> xsacha, i just did a sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:28] <Schalken> actually, by the default LAMP install, can my computer act as a webserver to other computers on the LAN?
[12:28] <xsacha> Morrissey: did you remove old deb package for 0.1.1? then sudo apt-get update ?
[12:29] <Morrissey> xsacha, no, how would I?
[12:29] <xsacha> then sudo apt-get install beryl
[12:29] <Morrissey> in /var/cache?
[12:29] <xsacha> it's in the same sources.list that you just put beryl-svn in
[12:29] <Morrissey> ok
[12:29] <Morrissey> Ill give it a go :)
[12:29] <Morrissey> two sec
[12:33] <Morrissey> xsacha, it worked :) thanks .. wich new effects should I try then? :P
[12:34] <xsacha> :) burn, beam
[12:34] <xsacha> 3d
[12:34] <xsacha> group, ..
[12:34] <Morrissey> what does that 3d thing do? I enabled it :P
[12:35] <xsacha> rotate your cube and look side on at the windows
[12:35] <Morrissey> um. whats the difference? :)
[12:35] <xsacha> it comes *off* the cube
[12:36] <meta__> hey Morrissey
[12:36] <meta__> yakuake have the same error
[12:36] <Morrissey> xsacha, oh .. hehe! Sweet :P
[12:36] <meta__> that konsole have
[12:36] <Morrissey> meta__, really .. that actually makes sence since yakukae uses many of the konsole features ..
[12:36] <Morrissey> hm
[12:36] <Morrissey> can you give me your pastebin again?
[12:37] <Morrissey> xsacha, burn, beam? Wheres that? :P
[12:37] <meta__> i have renamed my .kde and i'm after some xrestarts, kdebase reinstalls
[12:37] <meta__> so not, but i make a new
[12:37] <xsacha> Morrissey: Animation
[12:37] <Morrissey> meta__, I would actually try to make a new user and log in with him and check if konsole works .. then we know its your personal settings, not global
[12:38] <Morrissey> xsacha, haha! Burn was way funny
[12:38] <meta__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33890/
[12:38] <xsacha> Morrissey: try particle size ~4.0 and # of particles: ~4000 :P
[12:38] <xsacha> and turn on smoke
[12:38] <meta__> hm ok, but the renamoing of .kde won'T helped...
[12:38] <meta__> and if i rename /home/meta ?:)
[12:39] <meta__> ok... go try make a new user
[12:39] <Morrissey> xsacha, omg, that actually is quite sweet :P I really wish I had just a little better laptop right about now :)
[12:40] <xsacha> Morrissey: yeah it probably doesnt look so nice on a laptop :P
[12:40] <Morrissey> xsacha, it doesnt :P but it still fun to play around with
[12:40] <mkaster> hey i need some help
[12:41] <mkaster> i'm a lil new to linux and i don't know how to install the soundcard
[12:42] <mkaster> it says that the mixer is not found
[12:42] <crimsun> mkaster: what sound card is it?
[12:42] <mkaster> do u know how to check it?
[12:42] <Morrissey> mkaster, lspci
[12:43] <mkaster> that didnt tell me about my sound card
[12:43] <mkaster> it listed the things that r installed and working
[12:44] <Morrissey> mkaster, no, it lists your PCI bus ... check again
[12:44] <mkaster> it is builtin to the mobo
[12:44] <balfasz> hi, Morrissey i'm meta from a new user
[12:44] <balfasz> but konsole won't want to start:/
[12:45] <Morrissey> balfasz, that makes it a bit more tricky
[12:45] <balfasz> :(
[12:45] <Morrissey> balfasz, let me check your errors again
[12:45] <hirs> hi
[12:45] <balfasz> okay
[12:46] <crimsun> mkaster: how old is the computer?
[12:46] <mkaster> hold on let me get to this specific one and i can tell u the model
[12:46] <hirs> has any one tryed to apt-build firefox?
[12:46] <Morrissey> balfasz, you got me stuck ... it still looks like a font error, did you say that other programs are crashing as well?
[12:47] <balfasz> krusader want's to use konsole so that crashes like yakuake
[12:47] <Morrissey> xsacha, whats the big difference between compiz/beryl actually?
[12:47] <Morrissey> balfasz, ok, try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole" maybe (though I doubt it will help)
[12:49] <balfasz> i tryed that...
[12:49] <balfasz> won't helped
[12:49] <Morrissey> balfasz, I actually lost your pastebin again, too much restarting X over here :) Remember the url?
[12:49] <mkaster> it is a compaq deskpro sff with pentium 3 (600 mhz)  and i can't seem to find the model number
[12:50] <Morrissey> mkaster, lspci | grep Multimedia
[12:50] <Morrissey> does that give you anything?
[12:51] <Morrissey> mkaster, or lspci | grep Sound
[12:51] <mkaster> its not doing anything
[12:52] <crimsun> grep Audio
[12:52] <balfasz> Morrissey:
[12:52] <balfasz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33891/
[12:52] <balfasz> the problem is not about libc?
[12:53] <Morrissey> one sec balfasz
[12:53] <balfasz> okay
[12:56] <Morrissey> wich version of kde and konsole do you have balfasz? have you been playing with "kde4"??
[12:56] <mati> where is wine config file?
[12:56] <mkaster> ill brb i can find out the info when i log into windows
[12:57] <Schalken> it seems every torrent i have in KTorrent reports no peers, what could be wrong?
[12:57] <Morrissey> balfasz, wait
[12:57] <trench-> Schalken, ports forwarded?
[12:57] <Schalken> trench-: forwarded where?
[12:57] <trench-> or opened?
[12:57] <trench-> if youre using a router
[12:57] <Morrissey> balfasz, ok, I traced your bug to http://lists.kde.org/?l=konsole-devel&m=114010128401313&w=2 ... so Its a known bug allright, Ill give you a text if I find anything more
[12:57] <trench-> or behind a firewall
[12:58] <balfasz> i'm on the same domain
[12:58] <trench-> ktorrent uses a specific peer port
[12:58] <cafenet69> edgddddgg
[12:58] <Schalken> trench-: does edgy have a firewall?
[12:58] <balfasz> i'm reading who have this and who have soludion
[12:58] <mati> ppls where i can find wine config file? :/
[12:58] <trench-> iptables
[12:59] <Schalken> trench-: how do i see if its open?
[12:59] <trench-> by default it will be open
[12:59] <trench-> so you're not using a router?
[12:59] <Schalken> trench-: no, directed to external adsl modem
[12:59] <Morrissey> xsacha, does animation "deprove" the system much as well? :)
[01:00] <Schalken> mati_pl: ~/.wine/
[01:00] <xsacha> Morrissey: not here..
[01:00] <trench-> does your adsl modem have firewall/nat?
[01:00] <trench-> some of them do, that's why i asked
[01:00] <xsacha> say lower performance instead :P
[01:01] <Schalken> trench-: i doubt it, becuase it worked on suse and i hadnt touched my modem since.
[01:01] <trench-> cool then
[01:01] <Morrissey> xsacha, hehe, ok .. I
[01:01] <trench-> try a known torrent with a lot of peers
[01:01] <trench-> better yet, try azureus
[01:01] <Schalken> trench-: do you have one?
[01:01] <Schalken> azureus?
[01:01] <trench-> yes
[01:02] <trench-> a much better torrent client
[01:02] <trench-> imo
[01:02] <defrysk> ktorrent is great
[01:02] <mati_pl> Schalken which file is it i have there: system.reg userdef.reg user.reg //im new to linux
[01:02] <trench-> azureus just had been friendly with trackers :)
[01:03] <cntb> xsane preview screen disappears after 2 seconds on canon lide60 scanner . help
[01:03] <defrysk> latest ktorrent from here :  http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/ktorrent/
[01:03] <Schalken> mati_pl: i think wine config is stored somewhere in its registry. if you want to do configuration use winecfg
[01:03] <mati_pl> i wanted add
[01:03] <mati_pl> "ClientSideAntiAliasWithRender" = "N"
[01:03] <mati_pl> "ClientSideAntiAliasWithCore" = "N"
[01:04] <mati_pl> to use one game..
[01:04] <trench-> or look for the kde frontend of wine, "kwine"
[01:04] <cntb> xsane preview screen disappears after 2 seconds on canon lide60 scanner . help
[01:05] <trench-> wrong window >.<
[01:05] <Schalken> mati_pl: errrr thats probably under the \\wine\\drivers part of the registry
[01:06] <cntb> found it . was really simple sorry to bother
[01:06] <trench-> oh...i was on the right window...hahaha
[01:06] <Schalken> trench-: do you know a torrent that you know has peers?
[01:06] <mati_pl> ok i got it :) thx very much :)
[01:07] <trench-> Schalken, grab like the latest episode of Heroes or Prison Break from torrentspy
[01:07] <trench-> those have tons of peers
[01:07] <Schalken> trench-: i dont know what that is but okay
[01:07] <_4strO> yop yop
[01:07] <trench-> tv show
[01:07] <trench-> www.torrentspy.com
[01:07] <trench-> search it there
[01:08] <trench-> pretty cool tv series if i may say so :)
[01:08] <Schalken> trench-: which one is cool?
[01:08] <trench-> prison break
[01:08] <MenZa> !warez
[01:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:08] <trench-> now on it's second season
[01:08] <defrysk> this is not a torrents chat afaIk
[01:09] <trench-> (my bad)
[01:09] <mkaster> i'm back with info on my audio card
[01:09] <Schalken> trench-: ah, yes we had that in aus, never got into it tho
[01:09] <defrysk> so please take this elsewhere or talk privatly
[01:09] <mkaster> it is an ESS Audiodrive, can someone help me install it
[01:09] <MenZa> !offtopic
[01:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:09] <mkaster> maybe we can use the windows driver? ess.sys?
[01:09] <MenZa> And anyway, keep warez away
[01:10] <Morrissey> is tv torrents warez? Havent read about that yet
[01:10] <trench-> mkaster, there are ess drivers for linux...i use an alegro once before
[01:10] <ce_ndut> hai
[01:10] <MistaED2> mkaster: the issue is it's an ISA based sound chip, which needs manual module option probing
[01:10] <Schalken> trench-: the heroes torrent has plenty, must be a bad tracker i was using
[01:10] <defrysk> Morrissey, its off topic
[01:10] <trench-> they're not warez...but anyway...
[01:10] <trench-> just off topic
[01:10] <mkaster> oh so can you help me do that?
[01:11] <Morrissey> it wasnt a related question :) Just wondered (Wich btw also was off topic) :P
[01:11] <MistaED2> mkaster: i have a laptop which has an ESS, not sure if it's the exact same as yours "es1688"
[01:11] <trench-> mkaster, that was on a different distro before...not kubuntu
[01:11] <Schalken> trench-: actually torrentspy has some good torrents, thansk for that
[01:12] <trench-> shhh with the warez talk :P
[01:12] <balfasz> Morrissey: i'm rebooting now brb
[01:12] <mkaster> i have a ESS AudioDrive according to windows
[01:12] <Schalken> trench-: its not like thats all they have on there...
[01:12] <Schalken> or is it.
[01:12] <MistaED2> mkaster: you're lucky, i've got the line which i put in my /etc/modules from tomboy notes: snd-es1688 options snd-es1688 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3 fm_port=0x388 mpu_port=0x330
[01:12] <trench-> channel rules we must respect...that's all
[01:13] <MistaED2> but it is probably got different values, so try to check them in windows if you can
[01:13] <Schalken> right.
[01:13] <mkaster> but how do i use that info, i'm kinda new that's why i'm using an older computer for learning linux
[01:14] <MistaED2> mkaster: afaik, the ESS audiodrive driver was a dos driver for win9x, check the autoexec.bat for values perhaps
[01:14] <conor> hi, just wondering how to install nvidia drivers
[01:14] <mkaster> what is afaik
[01:14] <xsacha> as far as i know
[01:14] <conor> as far as i know
[01:14] <conor> :o
[01:14] <`Alex`> :|
[01:15] <`Alex`> it seems i am back
[01:15] <conor> \o|
[01:15] <conor> |o|
[01:15] <defrysk> !nvidia | conor
[01:15] <ubotu> conor: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:15] <conor> ty
[01:15] <MistaED2> mkaster: sorry "as far as i know", ok could you please go into the driver properties in windows and get any info you can on this sound card? like the model number, any dma/irq values, etc.
[01:15] <conor> im getting this from console
[01:15] <conor> conor@conor-desktop:~$ sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[01:15] <conor> sh: Can't open NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-7184-pkg1.run
[01:16] <trench-> have to be in the dir where the file is
[01:16] <mkaster> dammit let me logon to irc using my other computer, hold on
[01:16] <defrysk> conor, read the link privded by ubotu
[01:16] <defrysk> !language | mkaster
[01:16] <ubotu> mkaster: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:16] <MistaED2> mkaster: hang on
[01:16] <mkaster> i'm staying here
[01:16] <`Alex`> i managed to install kubuntu .......... but i have a stupid problem :D
[01:17] <xsacha> spci | grep Audio ?
[01:17] <xsacha> l
[01:17] <MistaED2> there might be a way to force auto detecting it, i remember redhat had a tool for old ISA sound chipsets which have no plug and play
[01:17] <`Alex`> i made the user wen i installed it .......... but now i don't have root access
[01:18] <TheGateKeeper> use sudo Alex
[01:18] <trench-> the user password is the root password...then you just sudo
[01:18] <defrysk> !sudo | `Alex`
[01:18] <ubotu> `Alex`: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:18] <`Alex`> yes
[01:18] <`Alex`> but i try to use the package manager
[01:19] <`Alex`> and requires root access ........ the user password does not work
[01:19] <`Alex`> :/
[01:19] <defrysk> `Alex`, read ubotus message and link
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> oaaa oaaa:(
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> konsole won't start:(
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > how can i downgrade libc?
[01:19] <MetaBookfoziS> i think possible thatis a problem..
[01:20] <MistaED2> mkaster: some info: http://www.oliyiptong.com/blog/2006/07/15/old-hardware-help-in-ubuntu/
[01:20] <conor> what repostories do i change for the nvidia drivers?
[01:21] <defrysk> !info nvidia-glx
[01:21] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[01:21] <MetaBookfoziS> 4mb to 12mb:)
[01:22] <defrysk> conor, you need restricted in your repo for nvidia-glx
[01:23] <mkaster> ok im here on my other computer
[01:24] <conor> defrysk: thats all ?
[01:24] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, hi ... first, you should get an older package on the web
[01:24] <mkaster> im logging into windows now
[01:24] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, then you should "sudo apt-get remove libc" and "sudo dpkg -i <older package>.deb"
[01:25] <eft> Hi. on 6.10 how can I stop resolv.conf from being overwritten? Commenting out the make_resolv_conf() function in dhclient-script and adding prepend domain-name-servers 130.89.1.2; dhclient.conf both don't work.
[01:25] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i get what libc is i needed
[01:25] <MetaBookfoziS> is there a million libc package
[01:25] <defrysk> conor, after sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx , do sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:25] <defrysk> then restart X conor
[01:26] <defrysk> thats all
[01:26] <mkaster> it shows up in device manager as "es1869 plug and play audiodrive (wdm)"
[01:26] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, im sorry, I dont know
[01:26] <conor> defrysk:  thanks for your help
[01:26] <Morrissey> MetaBookfoziS, have you tried --reinstall libc as well?
[01:26] <fdoving> eft: what if you remove the 'domain-name' and 'domain-name-servers' from the 'request' line, in dhclient.conf ?
[01:26] <defrysk> conor, if you have an older card get nvidia-glx-legacy
[01:27] <conor> 7600gt :D
[01:27] <defrysk> ok
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> !info libc
[01:27] <mkaster> did my friend go away?
[01:27] <ubotu> Package libc does not exist in any distro I know
[01:27] <MistaED2> mkaster: excellent, the driver we need to use in linux is snd-es18xx (however sometimes windows gives out wrong info and it really is an snd-es16xx)
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> ^
[01:27] <eft> fdoving: thanks, gonna try
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey >
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> ^
[01:27] <mkaster> ok do u want me to go back into linux?
[01:28] <MistaED2> mkaster: one sec, we need some dma/irq numbers, can you go into the properties of the driver under windows and just look around the tabs for some of this info?
[01:29] <georgeb> eft: you can try to modify /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf; remove domain-name-servers from request and require sections, I not sure if this is enough, though
[01:29] <mkaster> im writing them down now
[01:29] <fdoving> eft: also, 'supersede' is often better than prepend for dmina-name-servers.
[01:29] <mkaster> the i/o ranges too?
[01:29] <eft> kk, will do supersede as well :)
[01:30] <MistaED2> mkaster: all i needed for this laptop was irq, dma1, dma2, fm_port & mpu_port (the two on the end i don't think really matter unless you want midi playback)
[01:30] <georgeb> fdoving, eft: what do you mean by supersede ?
[01:31] <mkaster> what is fm and mpu port?
[01:31] <Momal> Can someone tell me how to allow mysql 4.1 (linux install ubuntu) to accept external connections | I asked in #mysql but someone might know here as well
[01:31] <eft> georgeb, its another line in dhclient.conf that is commented out by default
[01:31] <georgeb> fdoving, eft: aha, got it.. in dhclient.conf
[01:31] <conor> dunno if its still a driver problem but when i drag my windows they leave a trail behind them
[01:31] <mkaster> is it okay to paste the data in here or is it against channel rules?
[01:31] <MistaED2> mkaster: not 100% sure on fm but mpu is "mpu401" for midi file playback
[01:32] <MistaED2> !pastebin
[01:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:32] <MistaED2> mkaster: try putting it on pastebin
[01:32] <conor> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6053/snapshot1uy1.png
[01:32] <conor> thats a bit of it
[01:33] <mkaster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33899/
[01:33] <Morrissey> xsacha, what is FSP?
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> anyone have problems with intenet on kubuntu, whree when seemingly only loading websites, dns will just stop working altogether
[01:34] <xsacha> Morrissey: Focus Steal Protection
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> no matter what your dns servers are set to
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> i dont lose any active connections, so i know the nets not going out, and it doesnt happen in windows
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> i can access the net with my laptop wihle the desktop with kubuntu just stops resolving
[01:34] <Fiya_Break> this happens consistantly
[01:34] <MistaED2> mkaster: cool, we're ready to get linux working with the sound chip
[01:34] <conor> anyone ?
[01:35] <AlexC> pip: #wooooooooooooo
[01:35] <mkaster> MistaED2: so start up linux?
[01:36] <MistaED2> mkaster: yep
[01:36] <MetaBookfoziS> so no idea why my konversation don't want to start?
[01:37] <conor> ok this might be a stupid question
[01:37] <mkaster> MistaED2: im gonna want midi playback just in case so will that be any trouble to add on to help me?
[01:37] <MetaBookfoziS> this might be a 4hour old question
[01:37] <conor> but can someon take a screenie of all there networks settings
[01:37] <MetaBookfoziS> and not konversation, konsole
[01:37] <conor> i deleted 2 things that had ipv6 in them
[01:38] <MistaED2> mkaster: no problem at all actually
[01:38] <mkaster> cool
[01:39] <conor> :_( i hate slow internet
[01:39] <mkaster> MistaED2: j/w where did u learn linux? I'm looking to learn it to put it on my resume since i'm already an expert at windows OS
[01:40] <mkaster> MistaED2: ok it started up
[01:41] <eft> fdoving, georgeb: Didn't work. Thanks for the suggestions though :) Might uninstalling dhcp be ab option? I want static anyway.
[01:41] <MistaED2> mkaster: k, here is the pastebin i've typed up with some instructions: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33901/
[01:41] <conor> can someone tell me what they have in the box on network settings
[01:43] <conor> anything with ip6
[01:43] <conor> ....
[01:43] <fdoving> eft: what is your setup like? you'll have to restart dhclient to make it re-read the config.
[01:43] <conor> :_(
[01:44] <eft> fdoving: I've got nic to nic with my debian server that doesn't run a dhcp server
[01:44] <mkaster> MistaED2: It asks for a password
[01:44] <fdoving> eft: where do you get the dhcp information from? i doubt dhclient will update resolv.conf if there is no dhcp-server available.
[01:45] <Gunirus> hio
[01:45] <Gunirus> hi
[01:45] <MistaED2> mkaster: yeah put in your admin/root password
[01:45] <Gunirus> I have a problem on edgy
[01:45] <Gunirus> I can't set my keyboard layout
[01:45] <Gunirus> The list is empt
[01:45] <Gunirus> y
[01:45] <mkaster> MistaED2: i didnt set one up for root
[01:45] <travkin> Gunirus, use xorg.conf
[01:45] <travkin> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:45] <MistaED2> mkaster: yeah ubuntu uses sudo so just use your user password
[01:46] <Gunirus> But, why is the list in kcontrol empty?
[01:46] <eft> fdoving: Well, ifdown/ifup and networking restart don't do anything but after a reboot resolv.conf is again overwritten eventhough I *think* I set it up as static.
[01:46] <conor> !ipv6
[01:46] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:46] <trench-> some kde modules most likely failed to load
[01:46] <xsteadfastx> is there a way to boot from the actual kubuntu cd in the server mode?
[01:46] <agresion> `Alex
[01:46] <mkaster> MistaED2: ok now to follow the rest of tyhe directions
[01:47] <Gunirus> xorg.conf is correct
[01:47] <Gunirus> only my alt gr + ... keys are not working
[01:48] <`Alex> just an answer i want .......... can i do something to actualy login as root ?
[01:49] <fdoving> eft: do you have the package 'resolvconf' installed?
[01:49] <fdoving> !rootsudo | `alex
[01:49] <ubotu> `alex: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:49] <eft> fdoving: yes
[01:50] <mkaster> MistaED2: is the symbol between the 0 and 220 an x?
[01:50] <conor> this means ipv6 is still enabled right ?
[01:50] <conor> conor@conor-desktop:~$  ip a | grep inet6
[01:50] <conor>     inet6 ::1/128 scope host
[01:50] <conor>     inet6 fe80::215:f2ff:fe77:3005/64 scope link
[01:50] <MistaED2> mkaster: yep
[01:50] <conor> woops
[01:50] <conor> wasnt the pastebin link xD
[01:50] <Gunirus> travkin: Now everything is fine, except alt gr + ... keys
[01:52] <hirs> hi
[01:52] <fdoving> eft: then you can use resolvconf to manage nameservers. 'man resolvconf' , the easy way is to put your resolv.conf entries in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[01:52] <MetaBookfoziS> Morrissey > have you any idea where i need to go?
[01:52] <conor> anyone know how i reset all my internet and network settings to when i installed ?
[01:52] <fdoving> eft: that file is prepended to the dynamic nameserver entries created by resolvconf.
[01:52] <hirs> does anyone know why I get a crash dialog in kaffeine on exit?
[01:53] <hirs> I'm using version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2
[01:54] <eft> fdoving: thanks, will try, but this one also says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN". And afaik /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to this file.
[01:55] <mkaster> MistaED2: i did everything up to "if u want sound at startup" but theres nothing in the mixers when i goto the sound thing
[01:55] <fdoving> eft: it's not a link to that file. it's a link to /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[01:55] <travkin>  Error loading '/home/travkin/.xchat2/xmms-info.pl':
[01:55] <travkin>  Can't locate MP3/Info.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at (eval 4) line 4.
[01:55] <travkin>  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 4) line 4.
[01:55] <travkin> wtf?
[01:56] <travkin> libxmms-perl installed
[01:56] <MistaED2> mkaster: ok with the modprobe command did it complain, what did it do?
[01:56] <kaffeewoller> hi guys, i am having an installation problem with the alternate cd of kubuntu edgy
[01:56] <mkaster> it didnt give any output
[01:56] <kaffeewoller> i am given a Debootstrap Error, Faild to determine the codename for the release.
[01:56] <fdoving> eft: you'll edit the file that includes the warning at the top in /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf. resolv.conf is generated from teh files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[01:56] <kaffeewoller> what's going on?
[01:57] <eft> fdoving: Ok thanks a lot?! gonna try it now. brb :)
[01:58] <mkaster> MistaED2:  it didnt give any output
[01:58] <kaffeewoller> so I can't even install the base system
[01:58] <cox377> I've got this problem when i do sudo -i
[01:58] <cox377> or anything to do with sudo
[01:58] <cox377> it gives this error
[01:59] <cox377> cant stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory
[01:59] <cox377> does anyone know what this might be?
[01:59] <MistaED2> mkaster: hmm, i guess just continue on with putting the snd-es18xx into the /etc/modules file and restart ubuntu, if you still don't get any sound try editing the files and put snd-es16xx in instead
[02:00] <mkaster> MistaED2: i just restarted kmix and it didnt have the X over it anymore im gonna look for my mp3 file i had and try to play it
[02:01] <cox377> anyone?
[02:01] <MistaED2> mkaster: ok cool, maybe look for a program such as xmms which uses alsa natively, as a lot of kde apps go through "ARTS" first, which sucks
[02:01] <eft> fdoving: Thanks a lot, it works! Now in gonna unbork all the other config files I've mangled in the process :)
[02:04] <zerak> do microsoft sponsor Ubuntu / Kubuntu ? ( I am seriously starting to wonder )
[02:06] <vryko> goodmorning everybody
[02:06] <mkaster> MistaED2: i'm in kaffeine player and i opened up the xine engine settings and set it to also but it isnt playing and there are these expert settings that are confusing
[02:08] <cox377> zerak: what makes u say that?
[02:08] <MistaED2> mkaster: ok try what i said just above, experiment a little
[02:08] <mkaster> MistaED2: is it supposed to make a sound when i raise and lower the volume in the mixer?
[02:08] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm my firefox goes crazy
[02:08] <MistaED2> snd-es16xx instead of snd-es18xx perhaps, or just restart with the /etc/modules filled out
[02:09] <MistaED2> mkaster: probably not, so there's a sound chip appearing in the mixer?
[02:09] <cox377> "cant stat /etc/sudoers: no such file or directory"
[02:09] <zerak> cox377 due to all the bugs
[02:09] <MetaBookfoziS> http://metamorfozis.hu/p/ff.png
[02:09] <mkaster> yes it says ESS AudioDrive ES1869
[02:10] <MetaBookfoziS> please check it, my buttons and controls died
[02:10] <MetaBookfoziS> why?
[02:10] <mkaster> should I try restarting?
[02:10] <cox377> zerak: lol
[02:10] <zerak> cox377 and i configure something to work and then later it is all gone
[02:10] <cox377> zerak: thats odd
[02:10] <cox377> so far my kubuntu has been running perfectly, it's become  little unstable the last couple of days but thats a hw issue i think
[02:11] <MistaED2> mkaster: yes try a restart, and good it appears in the mixer (i'm thinking now it could be the dma1= & dma2= may need their numbers swapped or something silly like that
[02:11] <wilman> i dont hear sound whit flashplayer. does anyone has a remedy ?
[02:12] <zerak> cox377 if you want to see things that are odd, use user management and try to get admin mode, sometimes you get a dialog sometimes you get stuck without a dialog and unable to do anything (like SuSe -"do you want to proced?" and gives one BIG OK dialog (no no button or cancel)
[02:13] <zerak> cox377 or what about previously in ubuntu, saving root password in the log file so that anybody could read it
[02:14] <zerak> cox377 uninstalling xserver without reason if you ask me
[02:15] <Hobbsee> wilman: in firefox?
[02:16] <wilman> ja
[02:16] <wilman> is dat makkelijk op te lossen?
[02:16] <wilman> is that easy to solve?
[02:16] <Hobbsee> wilman: install alsa-oss, and run aoss firefox
[02:17] <Hobbsee> !flash
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <mkaster> yeah its still not playing
[02:17] <wilman> ok
[02:18] <Hobbsee> wilman: see the troubleshooting under https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3 for a permanent solution
[02:19] <wilman> well even with aoss it doesnt work
[02:19] <mkaster> for some reason no media player on kubuntu will play the audi or even start playing but audio comes out of the speakers when i close windows
[02:21] <Alter-Ego> what is initramfs used for
[02:21] <Alter-Ego> ?
[02:21] <unclemike> ? whats the latest kernel for 6.06...i have 2.6.15-23-386 installed right now
[02:32] <icheyne> unclemike, I'm on edgy, but so long as you are on a P2 or above, you should install the 686 kernel
[02:33] <unclemike> im on a p2 450
[02:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy All ! :)
[02:55] <cntb> A guy asked me
[02:55] <cntb> >>>>> (15:40:22) bloodhound: cntb: i could say with so many debian derivates , why ubuntu ?
[02:55] <cntb> what do I answer ?
[02:55] <Jucato> "personal choice/preference/taste"
[02:56] <cntb> that's all Jucato?
[02:56] <Jucato> it's the only one that you won't need to defend :)
[02:56] <cntb> heard of puppyOS ?
[02:56] <Mehercle> How can i reconfigure my x server?
[02:56] <cntb> here comes the root
[02:56] <Jucato> heard of it, never seen/tried it
[02:56] <Jucato> Mehercle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <Mehercle> thanks
[02:57] <cntb> me neither
[02:57] <cntb>  -- jucato /whois bloodhound
[02:57] <Smooph> hi anbody here who knows his way through css
[02:57] <Jucato> O.o
[02:58] <cntb> and  -/invite jucato #puppylinux
[02:58] <Jucato> err.. why?
[02:58] <cntb> just so
[02:58] <Duesentrieb> hi all - i lost the tray icon for laptop battery status (klaptopdeamon/powernow, i guess). How do i get it back?
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> i can't find anything in the "add applet" dialog
[02:59] <cntb> Duesentrieb: -- I guess >> System Settings
[02:59] <Duesentrieb> cntb: didn't see anything obvious there either...
[03:00] <Duesentrieb> in the control panel, i mean
[03:00] <Duesentrieb> System- > Settings doesn't exist
[03:00] <Jucato> he meant "System Settings"
[03:00] <cntb> no no Duesentrieb
[03:00] <cntb> exactly Jucato Duesentrieb
[03:01] <cntb> and there maybe hardware > Laptops & Power
[03:01] <Duesentrieb> (background: i tried kpowersave, which replaces klaptopdaemon/powernowd/apmd; but it didn't work, so i reverted. But now i don't see a frontend for the laptop/power stuff any more)
[03:01] <cntb> Duesentrieb:  last above pls
[03:02] <Duesentrieb> cntb: there's nothing about hardware or laptop or power there.
[03:03] <cntb> on mine there is
[03:03] <Duesentrieb> im using 3.5.5
[03:03] <Duesentrieb> kde 3.5.5 that is
[03:03] <cntb> I even found a place Duesentrieb
[03:04] <Duesentrieb> oh cool, where?
[03:04] <cntb> check it out Duesentrieb SystemSettings > HARDWARE > LAptop &Power > LAPTOP battery > checkbox for "Show battery monitor"
[03:05] <Duesentrieb> there's no hardware section in the system settings.
[03:05] <cntb> ask other ppl here will ell you the same Duesentrieb
[03:05] <Duesentrieb> cntb: are you using edgy?
[03:05] <cntb> what sections you have I have it translated to hebrew
[03:05] <cntb> dapper
[03:05] <Duesentrieb> yes, on dapper, the dialog was very different
[03:06] <Duesentrieb> had a lot more sections
[03:06] <cntb> is that it ? changes in edgy Duesentrieb ?
[03:06] <Duesentrieb> what "it"?
[03:06] <Duesentrieb> edgy makes it hard for me to find the settings, yes
[03:06] <cntb> press show all Duesentrieb
[03:07] <Jucato> have you tried using the search bar?
[03:07] <Duesentrieb> edgy also uses a different deamon and applet for power & laptop stuff, iirc
[03:07] <Duesentrieb> there'S no "show all". There'S "advanced", which gives me ttuff lice partitions, gdm config, systenv services.
[03:07] <Duesentrieb> but no power/acpi stuff
[03:08] <mildner> hi there how can I change to the german section...
[03:08] <Jucato> Duesentrieb: you can type in the search bar the keyword, like "power"
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !de
[03:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:08] <Jucato> it will show you how many "hits" you have
[03:08] <Duesentrieb> Jucato: no matches.
[03:08] <Jucato> strange...
[03:08] <mildner> how can i safe these locations
[03:09] <Duesentrieb> mildner: "safe"? depends on what program you are using for IRC, i guess.
[03:09] <Duesentrieb> normally, you don't "save" channels...
[03:09] <sybux> Hi, I'm trying to watch some divx video but I can't. I've install the w32codecs but kaffe
[03:09] <cntb> systen settings shows me the binary is called ngs
[03:09] <Duesentrieb> Jucato, cntb: do you have an idea in what package this stuff could be located? perhaps it got uninstalled when i tried kpowersave
[03:10] <cntb> where is the ngs in dapper
[03:10] <Jucato> nope
[03:10] <sybux> ... but kaffeine still say that there is no plugin
[03:10] <cntb> Duesentrieb: try  >>> sudo apt-cache search blabla
[03:10] <cntb> k?
[03:11] <Duesentrieb> cntb: did that. "ngs" turns up lots and lots of stuff. what'S ngs anyway?
[03:11] <Duesentrieb> apt search is much too broad to be useful
[03:11] <cntb> grep it then Duesentrieb ;-)
[03:11] <mazu> is it possible to use apt-get to check dependences of all installed packages?
[03:12] <cntb> sudo apt-cache search blabla | grep yourstring
[03:12] <Duesentrieb> cntb: that would be redundant. the grep would be just as broad.
[03:13] <Duesentrieb> mazu: "check dependencies"? it should always warn you if you have broken dependencies. you can run "apt-get -f install" (without a package) to fix broken package dependencies
[03:13] <mazu> In my openoffice instead of letters in interface there are squares, and I think i might removed some package when I was uninstallig gnome
[03:13] <Jucato> "apt-cache depends <package>" or "apt-cache depends --recurse <package>"
[03:14] <Jucato> very useful when partnered with "grep <search_pattern>"
[03:15] <Duesentrieb> ok, let me try a different approach:
[03:15] <Duesentrieb> anyone using edgy on a laptop?
[03:15] <mazu> yes
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> mazu: got a battery life display near the clock?
[03:16] <mazu> yes
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> can you tell me what it is called?
[03:16] <mazu> klaptop
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> hm... I think that was the one i had in dapper... edgy installed another one. hm...
[03:16] <mazu> if you are using kde og course
[03:16] <Duesentrieb> i am
[03:17] <Duesentrieb> but "klaptop" isn't offered as an applet to add.
[03:17] <Duesentrieb> on the command line, i only see klaptop_acpi_helper AND klaptop_check - that'S not it
[03:18] <mazu> hmmm it's a daemon
[03:18] <mazu> the full name of package is klaptopdaemon
[03:18] <Duesentrieb> yes... i have that
[03:18] <Duesentrieb> but a deamon doesn't have a ui by itself.
[03:19] <cntb> bad news . yesterday I tried kubuntu on one of newest LG COREduo laptops and.. install wont detect nenetcard pciexpress RT8168
[03:19] <Duesentrieb> anyway, gotta run
[03:19] <Duesentrieb> bbl
[03:19] <mazu> hmmm after I had installed this, the icon shows up
[03:19] <cntb> your case instructive ty Duesentrieb
[03:19] <cntb> #kubuntu rather sleepy now
[03:22] <mazu> here is a link to a thread on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=306226
[03:22] <mazu> I'm heaving problems with openoffice interface fonts
[03:22] <mazu> maybe someone can help me???
[03:23] <BluesKaj> anyone have the google earth repository in their sources list ?
[03:26] <pascal> hi all
[03:27] <BluesKaj> hi pascal
[03:28] <pascal> cu
[03:28] <Jucato> Blaise Pascal?
[03:28] <Jucato> :)
[03:36] <cntb> where is the binary of  KDESystemSettings of dapper in filesystem?
[03:36] <martint> any budy home?
[03:37] <martint> any budy knows some irc server howto?
[03:38] <Jucato> cntb: what do you mean
[03:38] <martint> I want to install IRC server on my machine (AMD64 6.10)
[03:39] <martint> itried through apt-get, but couldn't figure out how to make it work
[03:40] <Jucato> cntb: System Settings is launched by the "systemsettings" command in /usr/bin/ and the package that installs it is kde-systemsettings
[03:40] <BluesKaj> which client ?
[03:40] <Jucato> he said wants to install an IRC server?
[03:41] <cntb> how do I check uptime?
[03:41] <abattoir> cntb: 'uptime' in a terminal
[03:41] <abattoir> (or konsole)
[03:41] <cntb> ah ty
[03:42] <martint> yep IRC server
[03:42] <cntb> and how do  it have reported on kde? uptime Imean
[03:43] <abattoir> cntb: you mean you want it shown on your desktop or something?
[03:43] <Morrissey> hey, I kind of !offtopic question, but I have a 2.2 mhz Pentium 4 with 2x256mb RAM. And using XGL my computer's kinda slow (Not the 3d effects thought). Would buying a 1gb RAM chip, and replace it with one of the 256 one improve my KDE envioriemnt?
[03:44] <mc__> Morrissey: it would
[03:44] <Morrissey> mc__, ok, good to hear. Because normal browsing and changing between windows is really slow ..
[03:45] <mc__> Morrissey: not using XGL would bring a bigger performance gain
[03:46] <Morrissey> mc__, of course :) But I want both :P
[03:46] <mc__> Morrissey: you could try AIGLX instead fo XGL
[03:46] <Morrissey> I am .. actually :)
[03:47] <martint> No IRC server howto?
[03:49] <martint> ok sayonara
[03:49] <oem> i have just installed kubuntu. the menus behave strangely, the focus always wanders to the topmost item
[03:49] <oem> do you have that, too?
[03:50] <oem> it wanders unless i am hovering over a branching item
[03:52] <dirollordi> alo
[03:53] <abattoir> oem: this is when you do not move the mouse pointer?
[03:53] <abattoir> oem: could you try restarting KDE?
[03:53] <oem> abattoir: 2x yes
[03:53] <oem> should i?
[03:54] <oem> i will. brb
[03:54] <abattoir> oem: well, it might work fine if you restart
[03:54] <abattoir> oem: else it is a bug
[03:54] <abattoir> oem: never seen something like this before though
[03:55] <dirollordi> someone knows if xgl can be integreted in kubuntu ?
[03:55] <Morrissey> Ive seen that aMSN takes a lot of memory, is the a good looking replacement?
[03:55] <Morrissey> dirollordi, I have KDE+AIGXL
[03:55] <Morrissey> AIXGL*
[03:56] <dirollordi> is it easy to install ?
[03:56] <Morrissey> hehe
[03:56] <Morrissey> it depends ..
[03:56] <Morrissey> ATI or Nvidia?
[03:56] <dirollordi> i'm new in the linux world ^^
[03:56] <dirollordi> ATI
[03:56] <abattoir> oem: works?
[03:56] <oem> abattoir: it is still broken
[03:56] <abattoir> oem: are you on a laptop?
[03:56] <oem> yes
[03:56] <Morrissey> dirollordi, then no .. it can be quite tricky ... ask around in #ubuntu-xgl and google some forums
[03:57] <abattoir> oem: amd64 OS ?
[03:57] <rafael_kubuntu> How can I edit a file?
[03:57] <oem> abattoir: no, x386
[03:57] <dirollordi> Morrissey : thx
[03:57] <Morrissey> RadiantFire, pico file
[03:57] <rafael_kubuntu> How can I edit a file?
[03:57] <Morrissey> RadiantFire, or "gedit file"
[03:58] <abattoir> rafael_kubuntu: kate file
[03:58] <defrysk> in kubuntu kate /path/to/file
[03:58] <abattoir> rafael_kubuntu: if you need to edit a file which has root access, 'kdesu kate file'
[03:58] <defrysk> need root ? sudo kate /path/to/file
[03:58] <Jucato> !kdesu
[03:58] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:58] <abattoir> (/path/to/file, as defrysk suggests, if you aren't in that dir.)
[03:59] <abattoir> oem: that's weird...
[03:59] <dirollordi> this channel is only for kubuntu users ?
[03:59] <abattoir> oem: everything else works fine?
[03:59] <Jucato> dirollordi: kubuntu-support actually
[03:59] <oem> well, as far as i can see, yes
[03:59] <dirollordi> yes ok
[04:00] <abattoir> dirollordi: yes, #ubuntu is for general ubuntu(gnome support)
[04:00] <oem> abattoir: but i haven't been trying a lot
[04:00] <dirollordi> ok
[04:00] <dirollordi> i'll stay here ^^
[04:00] <oem> abattoir: owning the system for an hour now
[04:00] <abattoir> oem: cool, it came with kubuntu pre-installed?
[04:01] <oem> no, i did that myself, from the alternate cd
[04:01] <abattoir> oem: oh, so you installed in the oem mode...
[04:01] <asam> moin
[04:01] <oem> abattoir: yes
[04:01] <oem> abattoir: obviously :D
[04:01] <abattoir> :P
[04:01] <asam> ich suche mall die krusader kan jmanden helifen ??
[04:01] <abattoir> !de
[04:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:02] <abattoir> !krusader
[04:02] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[04:03] <defrysk> !info krusader | asam
[04:03] <ubotu> krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[04:03] <asam> und wo kanmmer das finden ?
[04:03] <BluesKaj> !de
[04:03] <abattoir> !de | asam
[04:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:03] <ubotu> asam: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:04] <defrysk> asam, krusader is in universe repo
[04:06] <oem> i dont know. did anyone else have this problem?
[04:09] <xTavares> hello
[04:10] <cox377> can anyone recommend a program for light editing of image files?
[04:11] <LjL> cox377: krita? :)
[04:11] <heinkel_111> is it possible to get flash working on a 64-bit now?
[04:12] <cox377> LjL: cheers ;) just install xpaint, shall install krita as well
[04:12] <Jucato> digikam or gwenview with kipi-plugins?
[04:12] <Jucato> krita is already installed by default on Kubuntu
[04:13] <cox377> LjL: opps it was already installed
[04:14] <cox377> Jucato: yup
[04:14] <cox377> Jucato: just the guy, i've got a prob when i try and run sudo of any sort.. do u think u could give me a minute?
[04:14] <Jucato> cox377: what problem?
[04:15] <cox377> cant stat /etc/sudoers - no such file or directory
[04:16] <LjL> cox377: and do you have an /etc/sudoers file?
[04:17] <Jucato> cox377: LjL is more adept in giving you a hand...
[04:17] <cox377> nope
[04:17] <Jucato> :)
[04:17] <LjL> cox377: any idea of when and why you could possibly have deleted it?
[04:17] <cox377> LjL: well it's on a new install
[04:17] <cox377> LjL: technically i shouldnt ask the question here
[04:17] <LjL> not good
[04:17] <LjL> why?
[04:18] <cox377> LjL: it's not for dreamlinux another debian based os that i'm just checking out on another machine but the support here is faultless
[04:19] <LjL> cox377: so on one machine sudo works fine, and on another it complains there's no /etc/sudoers, with the same distribution?
[04:19] <Morrissey> Mem:        have: 515756     used: 485176      free: 30580          0      17492     212416 <--- is this why my computers kind of slow lately? Changing applications windows, browsing, +++ is really slow :( Using KDE
[04:20] <LjL> cox377: this is the default /etc/sudoers for Ubuntu, you might want to use it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33924/  -  to make things work, you must make users that need sudo access members of group "admin"
[04:20] <cox377> LjL: nah, this is the kubuntu machine that i'm currently on and it's fine, i've just installed dreamlinux on another machine for test purposes
[04:20] <cox377> LjL: cheers just opening up now
[04:21] <LjL> cox377 sudo needs to be configured. Ubuntu comes with sudo as the default means to get root privileges, but other distributions don't
[04:21] <cox377> LjL: ahh i see
[04:21] <cox377> does this site show me how?
[04:21] <LjL> which site, my pastebin link? that's just my own /etc/sudoers file... it might do the trick, but it might not
[04:22] <cox377> so i just gotta create a file with that?
[04:23] <LjL> cox377: i'd try that. make it owned by root:root, and give it permissions o=r,g=r,o=
[04:23] <Morrissey> fell out .. did anyone reply? :)
[04:23] <LjL> err i mean u=r,g=r,o=
[04:24] <Morrissey> here is my "free" output: Mem:        have: 515756    used: 450316     free: 65440 <--- and that is JUST after starting X up ... is that why my computer's so slow lately? Browsing web pages, changing windows everything .. slow
[04:24] <LjL> cox377: if you use "visudo" to create it, it'll probably get the right permissions automatically
[04:25] <paulw> Morrissey: I don't think so, are there any processes running?
[04:25] <LjL> Morrissey, that's not the full "free" output... look at buffers/caching as well. Linux uses up a lot of memory for file caching, but it'll promptly free it when it's needed
[04:25] <LjL> so in a way, the "free" figures are fake
[04:25] <Morrissey> paulw, yeah, beryl-xgl for instance :P And xchat, and amsn
[04:26] <Morrissey> but it would help with more RAM right?
[04:26] <cox377> LjL: nice one, just trying it out
[04:26] <cox377> i;ve pasted the text in just trying to work out how to get it to accept it got this WriteOut but struggling to activate it
[04:27] <paulw> Morrissey: are they eating up resources in top?  512MB of RAM should be plenty.
[04:27] <Morrissey> paulw, yeah, they are :P
[04:27] <Morrissey> paulw, at most theyr eating together about 50%
[04:28] <Morrissey> Xorg is constant at 20% and Beryl-xg is about 5-10
[04:30] <paulw> Morrissey: don't know
[04:30] <Morrissey> my god, 20%, thats alot
[04:31] <pirupiru> bonjours
[04:31] <LjL> my free output is for that matter is   Mem:        514864     507032       7832          0     111568     136732
[04:31] <Morrissey> how much does xorg use for you guys?
[04:31] <LjL> about 10% right now.
[04:31] <Morrissey> LjL, same as here (approx) ...
[04:32] <LjL> Morrissey: yes, which i'm saying is fine, itself. instead, look at the swap - are you using a lot of it?
[04:32] <cox377> LjL: your the daddy
[04:32] <superkirbyartist> It seems that every time my iMac goes on, the font looks messed and I have to go to KControl to adjust it.  What can I do so that it's automatic?
[04:32] <pirupiru> hi scuse me i'm trying to install kubuntu on my computer but QTparted doesn't accept that i create a swap partition, could someone help me please ? :)
[04:32] <LjL> i'm using 17 megs of swap right now. which means the system is fine
[04:32] <Morrissey> LjL, using 0 swap
[04:32] <LjL> so it's even finer
[04:32] <Morrissey> LjL, but my computer is really slow, and my fan starts alot :)
[04:33] <LjL> that looks like your CPU is being used a lot... not your RAM
[04:33] <LjL> look at the percentage figures in top *for the CPU*
[04:34] <superkirbyartist> Any help to keep the settings I have right now?
[04:34] <Morrissey> LjL, Cpu(s): 11.9%us,  2.3%sy,  0.0%ni, 84.8%id,  0.0%wa,  1.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
[04:34] <Morrissey> LjL, maybe its my graphic card then ..
[04:34] <LjL> doesn't look like it's being used much, either
[04:34] <BluesKaj> pirupiru, I suggest that you burn GParted to a disc and use it as a live cd for editing partitions ...it's very stable and easy to use , and it works !
[04:34] <DekKeD> I want to install kde-devel package, but I get "BREAK (install)". Any solutions?
[04:34] <LjL> dunno, maybe if you're using beryl and stuff...
[04:35] <Morrissey> LjL, maybe :) Ill buy some ram anyways
[04:35] <LjL> if it's cheap enough... but 512Mb isn't really that bad
[04:35] <LjL> and, don't be surprised if after you've bought another 512Mb, "free" still shows it's all being used
[04:36] <BluesKaj> pirupiru, QParted is buggy in edgy and dapper
[04:36] <Morrissey>  ie: chaning tabs in xchat is really slow ... brining up a window is really slow, and so on
[04:36] <Morrissey> LjL, ok, thanks :)
[04:37] <pirupiru> BluesKaj: so how can i create the partition i want please ?
[04:37] <Chris7mas> 512 isn't bad at all
[04:37] <BluesKaj> pirupiru, did you understand what i wrote ?
[04:38] <pirupiru> BluesKaj: you say that QTparted bug on the last version of the distribution
[04:39] <BluesKaj> yes, use GParted ...it's different and better than QParted
[04:39] <Narada> hi; which guide would you recommend to install xgl on kubuntu; there's so many of them and all different
[04:39] <BluesKaj> you have to burn Gparted to a cd , then use in the bootup
[04:40] <pirupiru> hum ok, and could kubuntu be installed on an extended partition ? :)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> yes
[04:41] <pirupiru> ok thanks a lot :)
[04:41] <BluesKaj> NP ..good luck
[04:41] <BluesKaj> :)
[04:42] <LjL> Morrissey: i'd look at the graphics card side of things for starters. i.e. disable XGL or whatever you've got, and see
[04:45] <Morrissey> LjL, actually just found out that this guy was using XGL with my card as well. Though it should be plenty to use XGL with, he has the same problem. Browsing web pages and all is slow
[04:45] <LjL> personally i just stay clear of XGL and the likes for the time being
[04:47] <Narada> how do you restart X on kubuntu
[04:47] <Morrissey> Narada, the easy way? :) ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:47] <LjL> Narada: ctrl+alt+backspace restarts it without any clean-up (so use it with care)
[04:47] <dr0fnax> !edgy
[04:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:48] <Morrissey> LjL, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Video_Card_Support_Under_XGL <--- shows Notes: Distorted Screen with both drivers (ati-drivers-8.22.05, 8.23.7) but works (slowly) with open source drm drivers
[04:48] <Morrissey> hopefully ittl get fixed :)
[04:48] <dr0fnax> !beryl
[04:48] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:48] <Narada> LjL: Morrissey isn't there an init script that deep stops and starts it?
[04:48] <LjL> Narada: yes, /etc/init.d/kdm
[04:48] <LjL> Narada: but never use it from inside X, only from a VT
[04:49] <LjL> "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" will restart your X, if you run it from a VT
[04:49] <Narada> LjL: k that's exactly what i needed
[04:49] <LjL> Narada: it isn't too different from ctrl+alt+backspace though, really. it still doesn't turn your KDE off nicely
[04:50] <LjL> you should still log out, if you want to do things cleanly
[04:51] <Narada> LjL: stop and then start from vt then?
[04:52] <LjL> Narada: just "restart" will do nicely, without manually stopping and then starting
[04:56] <mneisen> hi, i am just upgrading to edgy eft and encounter some problems with dependencies. Somebody help me? Thanks in advance.
[04:57] <jamonation> mneisen: tried doing it with aptitude?
[04:57] <mneisen> not yet. How would I do that?
[04:58] <jamonation> sudo aptitude on the command line
[04:58] <mneisen> jamonation: and then? i guess this i not all that it takes ... :-D
[04:58] <abattoir> !upgrade | mneisen
[04:58] <ubotu> mneisen: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:59] <jamonation> then you... read what ubotu says...
[04:59] <mneisen> abattoir: thank you.
[04:59] <abattoir> mneisen: make sure you have kubuntu-desktop installed, before proceeding
[04:59] <mneisen> jamonation: :-D
[05:00] <mneisen> jamonation: abattoir: Thank you for the link, but I already followed that procedure.
[05:01] <mneisen> apt-get -u dist-upgrade stopped with unmet dependencies (courier-imap and the like).
[05:01] <abattoir> mneisen: what error do you get? could you pastebin it?
[05:01] <abattoir> !pastebin
[05:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:01] <mneisen> that's were I got stuck.
[05:01] <mneisen> abattoir: one mom plz
[05:01] <abattoir> sure
[05:01] <abattoir> you also might need dapper-backports/dapper-updates enabled...
[05:02] <mneisen> mneisen@samsumm:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tuxkart:
[05:02] <mneisen>  tuxkart depends on tuxkart-data (= 0.4.0-4.1ubuntu1); however:
[05:02] <mneisen>   Version of tuxkart-data on system is 0.4.0-4.1build1.
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: error processing tuxkart (--configure):
[05:02] <mneisen>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of courier-authlib-userdb:
[05:02] <mneisen>  courier-authlib-userdb depends on courier-authlib; however:
[05:02] <mneisen>   Package courier-authlib is not installed.
[05:02] <mneisen>  courier-authlib-userdb depends on courier-authlib (>= 0.58); however:
[05:02] <mneisen>   Package courier-authlib is not installed.
[05:02] <mneisen> dpkg: error processing courier-authlib-userdb (--configure):
[05:02] <abattoir> !pastebin | mneisen
[05:02] <ubotu> mneisen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:02] <mneisen>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[05:02] <mneisen> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:02] <mneisen>  tuxkart
[05:02] <mneisen>  courier-authlib-userdb
[05:02] <mneisen> ok ok.
[05:02] <abattoir> mneisen: i asked you to pastebin it, not paste it here
[05:02] <mneisen> sorry for that.
[05:03] <mneisen> here we go again: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33929/
[05:04] <abattoir> mneisen: try manually installnig courier-authlib-userdb and tuxkart-data
[05:04] <abattoir> mneisen: or you could remove them and install newer package later(after the upgrade to edgy)
[05:05] <mneisen> abattoir: I tried removing them.
[05:05] <mneisen> I will *pastebin* :-D the output.
[05:05] <abattoir> :)
[05:06] <LjL> mneisen you have some version mismatches
[05:06] <LjL> pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <mneisen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33931/
[05:06] <LjL> ah wait, the courier-* problem is a known bug i think
[05:06] <mneisen> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33933/
[05:07] <mneisen> LjL: OK, is there some doc on the WWW where I can read up on that bug?
[05:07] <LjL> mneisen: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/courier-authlib/+bug/64615
[05:11] <Cuddles_in_KY> morning all.
[05:11] <voicu> !mail
[05:11] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[05:11] <voicu> !sendmail
[05:11] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In component universe, is extra. Version 8.13.8-2 (edgy), package size 191 kB, installed size 248 kB
[05:11] <voicu> !exim4
[05:11] <ubotu> exim4: metapackage to ease exim MTA (v4) installation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.62-2 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[05:11] <voicu> which one would you suggest?
[05:11] <voicu> exmi or sendmail?
[05:11] <voicu> *exim
[05:12] <voicu> anyone?
[05:12] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this?
[05:12] <fdoving> voicu: i'd recommend postfix.
[05:13] <fdoving> !away | frankx
[05:13] <ubotu> frankx: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[05:13] <voicu> thanks fdoving
[05:14] <foxhound31> hello every time i try to use service command it doesnt seem to work
[05:14] <mneisen> LjL: Thank you so much, this really solved my issues.
[05:14] <foxhound31> as in service iptables restart
[05:14] <mneisen> Hope I can repay you one day.
[05:14] <foxhound31> just comes back ands says command doesnt exist
[05:14] <krikri> hi
[05:14] <foxhound31> what am i doing wrong here
[05:15] <krikri> is it possible to setup java on kubuntu please ?
[05:15] <Jucato> !java | krikri
[05:15] <ubotu> krikri: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:15] <krikri> thanks
[05:19] <Cuddles_in_KY> can someone please help me with this ndiswrapper error?
[05:21] <Chewie> Hi
[05:21] <Cuddles_in_KY> anyone?
[05:21] <ubuntu> Hello
[05:22] <ubuntu> Zna neko Srpski pizda vam materina????\
[05:22] <ubuntu> :))))
[05:22] <RaNgO> yo\
[05:22] <RaNgO> bitange
[05:22] <RaNgO> mamicu vam vasu
[05:22] <RaNgO> :)
[05:22] <Chewie> Anybody with kubuntu "feisty" is having trouble with acute accents in every KDE application?
[05:22] <RaNgO> VOLIM IVANU!!!!
[05:23] <Jucato> English only, please
[05:23] <Jucato> Chewie: you could ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:23] <Chewie> Thanks Jucato, I'll try
[05:24] <mkaster> does anyone know where i can learn linux?
[05:24] <RaNgO> English I do not know
[05:24] <RaNgO> :)
[05:24] <Jucato> mkaster: ah good start would be the Desktop Guide included in Kubuntu
[05:24] <mneisen> pity is that :-D
[05:24] <Jucato> K Menu -> Help
[05:24] <RaNgO> Why?
[05:24] <Jucato> RaNgO: this is the English channel.
[05:25] <RaNgO> It's cool enyway
[05:25] <RaNgO> :)
[05:25] <mneisen> Because you were asked to speak English.
[05:25] <RaNgO> lala
[05:25] <RadiantFire> the desktop guide is included in kubuntu
[05:25] <RadiantFire> konqueror -> k desktop guide
[05:25] <RaNgO> jucato fack you :)\
[05:25] <RaNgO> hehe
[05:25] <Morrissey> hehe
[05:25] <RaNgO> english only you say :)
[05:25] <LjL> !language | RaNgO
[05:25] <ubotu> RaNgO: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:25] <Jucato> !english
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about english - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <LjL> RaNgO: there are national channels. what is your language?
[05:25] <Jucato> lol.. :)
[05:25] <Morrissey> !japanese
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about japanese - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:26] <Morrissey> I should learn japanese
[05:26] <Jucato> hm...
[05:26] <Morrissey> how much FPS are you getting with benchmark?
[05:27] <RaNgO> Where are you from? (every one)
[05:27] <LjL> !offtopic | rango
[05:27] <ubotu> rango: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:27] <RaNgO> aha
[05:27] <RaNgO> ok man
[05:28] <gecekondu> S.a
[05:28] <RaNgO> what are you know about Kubuntu?\
[05:28] <gecekondu> nothin
[05:29] <gecekondu> what is it
[05:29] <LjL> !kubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:29] <RaNgO> Can I get free kubuntu CD?
[05:29] <LjL> !shipit
[05:29] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will not send Edgy (6.10) CDs, but only Dapper (6.06) CDs, as Dapper is a !LTS release.
[05:30] <RaNgO> cool
[05:30] <RaNgO> tnx LJL
[05:30] <zzz_> !LTS
[05:30] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[05:32] <Cuddles_in_KY> can someone -please- help me?
[05:32] <defrysk> !someone
[05:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:33] <Cuddles_in_KY> defrysk, i've asked twice, and gotten -no- response.
[05:33] <krikri> when i use the installation software i see something that i cant clic to setup it what is the problem :/ ?
[05:33] <zzz_> What is you question?
[05:33] <zzz_> your question..
[05:33] <Cuddles_in_KY> i'm having a slight problem using ndiswrapper on my laptop. i've got the driver installed, but when i do ''modprobe ndiswrapper'' i get ''invalid argument''. any suggestions on debugging/fixing this?
[05:33] <Cuddles_in_KY> the network card is using the wpndis51 driver (wavelan 1200).
[05:34] <defrysk> Cuddles_in_KY, be patient, as son there is someone that knows you will get your help/answer
[05:34] <defrysk> soon*
[05:35] <zzz_> What does $ modinfo ndiswrappper output. Does "invalid argument" refer to an argument given to modprobe?
[05:36] <zzz_> (Sorry for the typos.)
[05:37] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY ?
[05:37] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, ''fatal: error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): invalid argument''
[05:37] <Cuddles_in_KY> sorry, had to type it in by hand.
[05:38] <zzz_> What command do you use to get that output? Just "modprobe ndiswrapper" ?
[05:38] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, exactly.
[05:39] <zzz_> I am not very experienced with ndiswrapper... I understand that one needs to configure ndiswrapper before loading the module, right?
[05:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, correct, and i have done that.
[05:40] <Cuddles_in_KY> ndiswrapper -i wpndis51.inf worked perfectly.
[05:41] <zzz_> Could it be that the driver you are using right now is not compatible with ndiswrapper? Could you try another driver, maybe from another vendor who uses the same chipset?
[05:42] <Morrissey> Wich driver should I use with ATI Radeon 9000? For now I have the "radeon" drivers, and beryl works, just kind of slow ...<--- FOR XGL/BERYL
[05:43] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, that's part of the problem. no other vendors use that chipset.
[05:43] <zzz_> It may be that an e-mail to the ndiswrapper users' mailing list is in order...
[05:44] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, the information i'm using came from here, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#Q
[05:44] <fibonacci> Is it really necessary to install all of PIM , if all I want is KAddresbook, Akregator and KMail ?
[05:44] <Cuddles_in_KY> and i've tried emailing that user, with no joy. the email address bounces.
[05:44] <cloakable> Does anybody here have experience with Kommander?
[05:44] <fibonacci> I mean I want them bundled in Kontakt
[05:45] <Dr_willis> cloakable,  I installed it.. but dont think i ever actually used it. Lol
[05:46] <Jucato> Kommander and Kontact???
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Kommander. :)
[05:46] <Jucato> yeah, I meant, he wanted Kommander bundled with Kontact?
[05:46] <cloakable> Dr_willis: Heh. I'm trying to make a frontend for [meta]  tracker. It works, but getting the results as a tree is frankly ugly :)
[05:46] <fibonacci> nonono
[05:47] <Jucato> lol
[05:47] <Jucato> sorry, not reading straight
[05:47] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, I would try ndiswrapper-general@lists.sourceforge.net for a possible solution.
[05:47] <zzz_> I am sorry for being unable to help you.
[05:48] <elias_>  is anybody using vmware server on edgy sucessfully? I was having some problems with it: https://launchpad.net/bugs/64773
[05:48] <Jucato> fibonacci: I think you can install kontact, then remove the other parts you don't want.
[05:48] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, thank you for at least trying.
[05:49] <fibonacci> Jucato:  okidoki, cheers man.
[05:49] <krikri> what does it mean when in the add/suppression of software the name of something is in grey ?
[05:49] <Dr_willis> elias_,  i use it all the time..  the other day someone was having issues installing it. Due i think to him having vmware-player installed beforhand.
[05:49] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, One more thing: Are you really really sure that you have compiled ndiswrapper properly?
[05:50] <elias_> Dr_willis: I had 100% CPU load when I tried first (right after edgy release or just before it)
[05:50] <elias_> But if it works for you I am happy!
[05:50] <Dr_willis> elias_,  i had issues with it in the beta/prerelease of edgy
[05:50] <elias_> Which version are you using?
[05:50] <elias_> Dr_willis: So it might be resolved now, great!
[05:51] <elias_> By the way, can you use it full screen?
[05:51] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, i installed it from apt actually.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> using whatever the latest free vmware server version is. I did a CLEAN install.. i never upgrade.
[05:51] <Dr_willis> ive used it fullscreen befor.. not tried it lately
[05:51] <elias_> this is the one beaty about vmware player
[05:52] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, Have you tried compiling a newer version manually?
[05:52] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, not yet, but i will if i have to.
[05:53] <zzz_> Cuddles_in_KY, I would be glad to help with that...
[05:54] <zzz_> [Out to dinner for 10-20 minutes...] 
[05:55] <Cuddles_in_KY> zzz_, honestly, i was just going to give it one last shot before i toss the card into the lake. it was a ''gimme'', and even has trouble in windows.
[06:04] <elias_> Dr_willis: do you have any idea why I am having troubles to get assigned an IP on a vmware vitual interface which is a WLAN interface connected to a Linksys AP on the host OS?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Ive never used vmware and wireelss cards. I dont even use wireless cards any more.
[06:05] <fibonacci> ./ubuntu
[06:05] <fibonacci> oops
[06:05] <fibonacci> hehe
[06:05] <sYnie> hey there ... i got a 1 GB USB pen. I installed a damn small linux, that works perfect. but I can't write data on the stick like changing password, installing software, except installing them into the image file. ist there any possibility to handle a usb pen like a hdd, for example to install a linux on it directly ?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> I think the DSL homepage has details on doing it that way.. and theres a LinuxPendrive site that has info/scripts to set them up also.
[06:06] <jseattle> can someone help me figure why firefox 2.0 keeps crashing in edgy eft?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> jseattle,  as a guess...  Flash Issues
[06:07] <sYnie> dr willis, i just found infos about installing the image
[06:07] <jseattle> but it does it on konqueror and galeon as well
[06:07] <Dr_willis> 'it does it' ? all 3 of those browsers crash?
[06:07] <jseattle> yes
[06:08] <jseattle> i try to watch local tv news and once it's time for flash to start, it crashes
[06:08] <jseattle> i have dapper cd and firefox, flash, etc work fine, just on edgy eft does it crash
[06:09] <Dr_willis> try installing the latest flash 9 beta
[06:09] <jseattle> k
[06:10] <Jucato> !flash9
[06:10] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:14] <hrp2171> hello.  i need to find a different link for a default repository: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main   I was trying to install something that depends on thunderbird and i keep getting a 404 error
[06:14] <muge> h
[06:24] <Adun> hello... can somebody tell me... did kubuntu format windows partitions (ia have one FAT32 with WinXP on it and one NTFS for other shits:)... 1 partition with slackware on it (i want to format that partition and install kubuntu on it) and one swap partition... ) i'm ot step 5 where i select some partitions... so if i select the partition with slackware and the swap partition... will it format the other 2 partitions ? :/
[06:27] <d3imuddah> KDE suxx
[06:27] <ke> Freak
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Adun,  it pays to pay very very carefull attention :) i found that out the hard way. You 'may' want to manually delete the slack and swap partitions so they are unallocated. then let the isntaller  auto-allocate/use unallocated drive space.
[06:27] <d3imuddah> jus fux
[06:27] <d3imuddah> fun
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Adun,  ive manually selected partitions to be / and  told the isntaller to format them.
[06:28] <d3imuddah> #ubuntu
[06:28] <hrp2171> yeah, i lost my K menu and the other stuff on the taskbar.  somehow i still see the icons ive added to the panel.
[06:28] <defrysk> Adun, if you can install slackware I'm sure you can handle the prtitioner ok ubuntu
[06:28] <defrysk> of
[06:29] <hrp2171> oh well, im switching to xfce anyhow.
[06:29] <reon> How do I correlate sda numbers to (hd0,x) numbers ?
[06:29] <Adun> defrysk i'm not sure if it formats the windows partitions... that's why i've asked you :)
[06:29] <Adun> Dr_willis i have to format them first or just unallocate them ?
[06:30] <defrysk> Adun, easyes way to install is with the alternative install cd imho
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Adun,  if you are going to 'delete the partitiosn' there sno need to format them first. :)
[06:30] <defrysk> Adun, if you open the partitioner of the live cd you can see the properties of each partition
[06:30] <defrysk> live-cd = alternative cd sorry
[06:31] <defrysk> Adun, and what Dr_willis sais :0
[06:31] <Adun> thanks to all of you... :)
[06:32] <defrysk> Adun, just follow instructions and when the partitioner pops up select the manual way
[06:32] <defrysk> and delete all linux partitions makes the rest dead easy as Dr_willis said
[06:33] <Adun> :) thanks
[06:33] <defrysk> Adun, installer of alternative cd rules :)
[06:34] <Adun> :D
[06:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:36] <blainn> slow-motion -- Howdy
[06:37] <slow-motion> hi blainn
[06:38] <blainn> There are folks here, but I think they wait for questions to show themselves.
[06:38] <blainn> Like, in a minute or two, I'm going to ask a couple of questions, and I think they will bring a brief flurry of responses (because they are very easy questions) and then it'll settle down.
[06:41] <zzz_> What are your questions, blainn?
[06:41] <zzz_> (Heh!)
[06:41] <blainn> My first question:  Does the kubuntu installer allow me to install over my existing Xandros OCE install, preserving my /home tree?
[06:42] <blainn> See, it's working.
[06:42] <zzz_> Is your /home on a different partition?
[06:42] <blainn> I think I moved it to another physical drive, mounted from my root partition.
[06:43] <zzz_> I don't understand. Is /home on a different partition? Try "grep /home /etc/fstab"
[06:43] <zzz_> Or even better, "grep /home /etc/mtab"
[06:43] <blainn> Second question:  I heard a rumor that Firefox isn't available under kubuntu (or that it's a sub-2.0 version, or something like that).  Is there anything funky about FF and kubuntu?
[06:44] <zzz_> I am using Edgy Eft right now and I installed Firefox 2.0.
[06:44] <blainn> zzz_ I get a blank line to grep /home /etc/mtab
[06:44] <zzz_> (I am using Kubuntu 6.10, to be clear.)
[06:45] <zzz_> So it is very likely that /home is not on a separate partition... Then you might try the following:
[06:45] <blainn> I ask the first question because my install of Xandros over a Knoppix hd-install moved my /home to /oldhome
[06:45] <blainn> That was an option at install -- it also could just wipe the partition and install fresh.
[06:46] <zzz_> Use a live cd to delete everything except the /home directory. Then use the "Alternate" installation CD to make sure that the partition's contents are preserved during the installation.
[06:47] <blainn> At that point, it'd be easier to tarball /home and do a full install anyhow.
[06:47] <zzz_> Correct.
[06:47] <blainn> Ah, well.
[06:47] <zzz_> Sorry...
[06:47] <blainn> Hey, the right answer isn't always the easy answer.
[06:48] <blainn> I'll take the  right one every time.
[06:48] <xwolf-> !mp3
[06:48] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:52] <blainn> Thanks for your help.
[06:55] <elias_>  what is vmware-mui for?
[06:55] <fibonacci> How do I make "cd.." be equivalent with "cd .." ? (note the space, bloody anoying having to put the space in all the time).
[06:55] <zzz_> Try the following: alias cd..="cd .."
[06:56] <fibonacci> cheers
[06:56] <zzz_> You might want to append that line to your /etc/bash.bashrc file.
[07:05] <BluesKaj> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxencore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxencore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxencore0-binary
[07:09] <fabian_> alguien conoce de sintonizadoras de tv?
[07:09] <griffjon> Afternoon and happy post-thanksgiving to y'all
[07:10] <griffjon> I'm having an annoying time finding a way to convince my poor old Dell cpi to standby (suspend to disk works great)
[07:11] <griffjon> but the standby feature wakes up after a few seconds due to my orinoco silver wireless card (i.e. it works right if the wireless card is out)
[07:11] <xwolf-> !avi
[07:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <euwaex> witam
[07:12] <euwaex> kto mnie pomoze w instalacji na kubuntu firefoxa?
[07:12] <griffjon> I've enabled power mgmt on the wireless configurations, but it doesn't seem to take/have an effect with standby.  Can I add something to the standby script to depower the wifi card?
[07:12] <BombTron> anyone have trouble with amarok cover manager
[07:12] <BombTron> ?
[07:12] <Staren> Wow, people!
[07:13] <BombTron> word up
[07:13] <euwaex> pocztkujacy jestem wiec sie nie dziwcie
[07:13] <LjL> !pl
[07:13] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:13] <BombTron> !amarok
[07:13] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[07:14] <Staren> So. I once had this laptop, a Win95 computer with a 40GB HDD. Sadly, its long life was brought to an end when an unexpected short downward flight ended in a broken screen. The rest is intact, though. Now I've gotten a new laptop, whihc has Win XP and a 20GB (ick!) HDD. But, I've recently obtained a 100GB HDD, and here's what I want to do...
[07:15] <Staren> Copy both over onto the one drive, _and_ add a linux partition for KUBUNTU, with WinXP/Win95/Linux tri-boot.
[07:15] <Staren> Can I do this? How big should the linux partition be?
[07:15] <xwolf-> !gcc
[07:15] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:15] <xwolf-> !nemacs
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nemacs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <xwolf-> !emacs
[07:15] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:15] <BombTron> Staren: partition can be as big as you want it, get a usb external hard drive housing
[07:15] <griffjon> Staren: I run kubuntu on a laptop with 6gb total HDD, it runs in ~4 of that for the lower end of your range
[07:16] <BombTron> Staren: then get a normal size to mini hard drive adaptor
[07:16] <elias_> why is it that I can get an IP via DHCP when plugged in via ethernet but not via WLAN with neither VMWARE player nor server? I configured both as bridged straight through.
[07:16] <BombTron> create partitions on the big one and then start moving stuff over
[07:16] <griffjon> Win95 takes up very little space, too (remember, it once shipped on~25  floppies)
[07:16] <BombTron> easier with a desktop
[07:16] <Staren> Err, all of the HDDs involved are laptop drives.
[07:16] <nagyv> hello! I would like to try out the SeconLife alpha client, it starts without any problems, but the majority of the fonts is unreadable. (p.ex: the login prompt)
[07:17] <BombTron> yea so you'll want a usb hard drive external housing
[07:17] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  odd.. it works for me.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  you just installed it today?
[07:17] <nagyv> Dr_willis: yes
[07:17] <BombTron> Staren: I would put the big one in the laptop first
[07:17] <BombTron> s
[07:18] <Staren> So is copying over the FAT32 partition as is, assigning some minimum amount of space to the linux partition, and then giving the rest to NTFS for WinXP (probably my primary OS at this point -- I want to try linux extensively before moving over)
[07:18] <BombTron> Staren:  then instal windows on it
[07:18] <Dr_willis> there may be a new version that has an issue. OR it may be some extra fonts need to be installed.
[07:18] <nagyv> actually, I just selected my login name, and then I could see it
[07:18] <Croupier> hey im having a little problem changing the way the dates are shown in the imendio planner
[07:18] <Croupier> they use the weeks but i want the day like mon,tues,
[07:18] <Croupier> or the date
[07:18] <BombTron> Staren: 10 or 15 gigs for linux should be pleanty
[07:18] <Staren> the best solution here?
[07:18] <Dr_willis> Staren,  theres tools that let XP read/write to ext2/3 partitions. so no need for a fat32 'data exchange' partition.
[07:18] <Staren> Ok.
[07:18] <Croupier> any ideas what planner would do that
[07:18] <nagyv> Dr_willis: there is a symlink for kochi-mincho which I uninstalled before, but now it is installed again
[07:18] <Staren> FAT32 is for Win95.
[07:18] <Staren> Though I didn't know XP could use ext3. Hmmmmmmm.
[07:19] <Dr_willis> run win95 in a vmware session. :P is an easy way to have windows and linux both. heh.
[07:19] <gtwy> 95?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> google for ext2 ifs windows xp
[07:19] <gtwy> is it even worth it?
[07:19] <BombTron> Staren: like the other guy said there is stuff on source forge for accesing ext3 from xp
[07:19] <gtwy> wtf even runs on 95?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> I use win95 in vmware for a few apps.
[07:19] <Staren> Well, since I already have it, and I have plenty of space, why not?
[07:19] <Dr_willis> PSPvideo9 works. :)
[07:19] <Staren> Win95 will run old dos games with much less hassle than winxp does. I'll probably barely ever use it, but nice to have.
[07:19] <nagyv> Dr_willis: it is really weird, I just tried to log in using version 1.13.0.5, and it sais that there is a newer version. Impossible!
[07:20] <gtwy> Staren: wolf3d, doom
[07:20] <gtwy> ?
[07:20] <Staren> Thanks for the advice guys!
[07:20] <BombTron> Staren: install big main drive first then install windows then linux on the smaller partition then start copying stuff over
[07:20] <XVampireX_> Dr_willis: You use the partition editor? I want to know why people make a reiserfs partition anymore
[07:20] <XVampireX_> Dr_willis: Sorry, I'm asking you as I remember I talked to you a whle ago :) I need someone who's not a newbie
[07:20] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i get a message 1.12.3.6 is aviliable.
[07:20] <Staren> Well, Doom's been ported. I have an old NES emulator that has all my old savegames... and what if I want to play Wing Commander or something?
[07:21] <Dr_willis> XVampireX_,  ive never used reiserfs. :) but its not too hard to use them i guess.
[07:21] <nagyv> is it newer than 1.13.0.5? 1.12<1.13 isn't it?
[07:21] <XVampireX> Hmm
[07:21] <Dr_willis> !find nes
[07:21] <ubotu> Found: fortunes-min, gnome-icon-theme-gartoon, gtk2-engines, gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks (and 123 others)
[07:21] <XVampireX> Anyone more knowledgeable?
[07:21] <XVampireX> !reiserfs
[07:21] <ubotu> reiserfs is a journalling file system, in benchmarks it outperforms many others on I/O operations, but they take notoriously long to mount.
[07:21] <Dr_willis> Staren|Idle,  theres plenty of emulators out.
[07:21] <xwolf-> !wine
[07:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  considerng  the 2nd live prog for linux is alpha. :) gotta expect some issues.
[07:22] <Dr_willis> http://forums.secondlife.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=263
[07:23] <griffjon> side question: if iwconfig eth0 txpower off doesn't turn off a wireless card, how can you "unmount
[07:23] <griffjon> "
[07:23] <griffjon> ?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> You dont mount network cards. :)
[07:23] <zzz_> :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> remove the module perhaps.
[07:23] <Bubba_Gump> i'm looking for a linux statistics program, any ideas ?
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Bubba_Gump,  freshmeat.net
[07:23] <griffjon> check pspp
[07:24] <griffjon> Bubba: pspp is a command-line OSS version of spss.  It's a bit.... rough around the edges
[07:24] <XVampireX> Bubba_Gump: Spreadsheet program?
[07:25] <XVampireX> Bubba_Gump: What kind of statistics?
[07:25] <Zarephath> How in the heck do I tell freenode server to list available channels?
[07:25] <Bubba_Gump> Standard deviation, z-scores, means this sorta thing
[07:25] <Bubba_Gump> like spss
[07:25] <Dr_willis> Zarephath,  that would be a irc client setting I think.
[07:26] <Dr_willis>  the /list command is often full of features
[07:26] <Dr_willis> get ready for a huge list.
[07:26] <XVampireX> Oh
[07:26] <XVampireX> Don't know then
[07:26] <fibonacci> In SuSE there is Yast, in kubuntu there is ? Help please.
[07:27] <Emess> System Settings
[07:27] <Emess> or did you mean for package management?
[07:27] <Guardian> hi what should i install to get flash 9 playing ?
[07:28] <fibonacci> System Settings, from what package ?
[07:28] <Zarephath> Dr_Willis: Well Kubuntu PPC I have not menu lists at the top?
[07:28] <Emess> Guardian: make sure you have universe and multiverse, then package is called flashplayer9
[07:28] <Guardian> ok
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Zarephath,  Huh?
[07:28] <Bubba_Gump> !flash9
[07:28] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:28] <Dr_willis> fibonacci,  ubuntus use the apt-get system of packjage management
[07:28] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:28] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:29] <Zarephath> Yeah X-chat isn't displaying the drop down menu choices at the top of the window..
[07:29] <Guardian> emess: i don't have such a flashplayer9 package, universe and multiverse are enabled
[07:29] <BluesKaj> mencoder is missing a dependency or is being blocked , i'm not sure :  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxdecore0-binary
[07:29] <fibonacci> Dr_willis: Yeah, I got that down. But where can I configure Services at Run Levels , and so on...
[07:30] <Emess> Guardian: might not be on them yet, try looking in adept for flashplayer and see what it has, otherwise go to macromedia's flash site and it should have info
[07:30] <Dr_willis> Theres a icon in the settings/cntrollcenter i see for the SysV run level stuff
[07:31] <BluesKaj> tried to remove the offending file but it can't be found E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0', which is also in package libdivxdecore0-binary
[07:31] <Dr_willis> fibonacci,  add the  'control center' applet to your taskbar. makes finding the settings menu/icons easier.
[07:31] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  remind me - WHY is second life 'popular' ?
[07:32] <nagyv> Dr_willis: I don't know it yet :)
[07:32] <Bubba_Gump> Dr_willis: how come we have system settings and kcontrol ?
[07:32] <fibonacci> Dr_willis: Well that's on a session level is it not? I want to modify services at all run levels...
[07:32] <zzz_> BluesKaj, how about trying to remove the offending package? (libdivxdecore0-binary)
[07:32] <Staren> Hmm, this NTFS-3G thing means that Linux can use NTFS just fine?
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Absolutely not
[07:32] <BluesKaj> zzz_, ya think ?
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Linux can *not* write to NTFS
[07:32] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i think its one of those 'sales men selling stuff to other salesmen' sort of gimmic.. I dont see much to actually 'do' in the game.
[07:32] <Hawkwind> Staren: If you attempt it, chances are you will lose your data.  It's not something we support here at all
[07:32] <Dr_willis> !ntfs
[07:32] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:32] <nagyv> Dr_willis: when you are studying away 2000kms away from your family and friends, then secondlife seems to be a good amusement for a saturday night :)
[07:33] <Staren> Dr. willis - It's like IRC with graphics, and you can have stuff. Sort of a fusion of chatting and MMORPGs.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i can find other things to do... :)
[07:33] <Staren> Though "Graphical MUCK" is a description I prefer.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> Staren,  it just seems to be one Huge Shopping Mall/Gambling Casino/S&M parlor to me.
[07:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:33] <Staren> Correct. There is also a lot of chat, but the true gems are rare and far between.
[07:34] <Staren> Check it out next time someone holds a game creation contest.
[07:34] <Dr_willis> here i am dancing on a 'pole' dressed up as little red riding hood... theres got to be some laws getting broke there!
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Staren,  i read about the NOAA weather 'building' but cant find it.. saw the DELL computer store on there..
[07:34] <dmhouse> Hi guys. I'm trying to work with my Sony Ericsson 750i on my Kubuntu Dapper installation. Plugging the device in works, but clicking on the '64M Removable Media' icon that appears on my desktop brings up an 'unexpected error'.
[07:34] <BluesKaj> zzz_, nope din't work :
[07:34] <BluesKaj> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:34] <BluesKaj>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb
[07:35] <Staren> This is why I don't spend much time there. Still, sometimes people do things genuinely creative or interesting, like that guy who built the schizophrenia building... I still gotta check that out sometime.
[07:35] <dmhouse> dmesg had interesting things to say: http://paste.lisp.org/display/30684
[07:35] <Staren> Do a find for it, willis.
[07:35] <sampo-> Does anybody know, what are default port for streaming video?
[07:35] <wildchild> has anyone any ideas why kaffeine doesn't wanna start by clicking on it ?
[07:35] <Exilant> Anyone knows how to enter the a-ring(/) in kubuntu 6.10 without it on the keyboard? Compose-a-a or compose-a-* doesn't work
[07:35] <dmhouse> Specifically the line 'Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods'. Is this likely to be the cause of the problem? How do I do what it says?
[07:35] <wildchild> in terminal:
[07:35] <wildchild> q@umbrella:~$ kaffeine
[07:35] <wildchild> q@umbrella:~$
[07:35] <Exilant> wildchild: perhaps its still running
[07:36] <zzz_> BluezKaj, try to install libdivxcore0-binary again and then try uninstall it.
[07:36] <wildchild> IExilant how?
[07:36] <Exilant> kill them all "killall kaffeine"
[07:36] <Staren> Alas, my laptop is now my main computer and does not run SL, so I can't spend much time searching for cool things in SL.
[07:36] <Exilant> works here sometimes
[07:36] <wildchild> Exilant: wow
[07:36] <wildchild> Exilant: how did u know it's still running
[07:36] <wildchild> I mean..
[07:36] <wildchild> I almoust start computer..
[07:37] <Exilant> if it ran before and crashed...had that sometimes
[07:37] <Bubba_Gump> second life seems to be a big distraction
[07:37] <wildchild> k
[07:37] <sampo-> Exilant: I got same proglem and I cann't kill one kaffeine process, even if I change to root
[07:38] <Exilant> sampo-: those unkillable processes are weird
[07:38] <Staren> So what about this NTFS-3G thing?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Staren,  i hear it works.. but im not brave enough to try it.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> Staren,  i just let XP read/write to the ext2 partitions
[07:39] <Staren> Hmmmm.
[07:39] <Dr_willis> i got a spare ext2 drive i let be used as my 'shared' data drive
[07:40] <newbie> hi
[07:40] <Staren> Well, are there any advantages of NTFS over ext2?
[07:40] <newbie> i have a problem to install kubuntu using scsi cd-rom drives
[07:41] <newbie> since the controller seems to be non-capable of booting from the cd-rom
[07:41] <Staren> Max volume size is irrelevant in this case since it's a 100GB drive.
[07:41] <newbie> so i decided to download an ubuntu-boot disk
[07:41] <newbie> however the boot menu doesn't show up the scsi devices
[07:41] <Emess> whats the apt-get command to downgrade a package?
[07:42] <newbie> anyone who has an idea how to get things working?
[07:42] <nagyv> newbie: click on them, could you be a bit more precise, please
[07:42] <apokryphos> Emess: remove the new one, then install the old one
[07:43] <newbie> nagyv: on what menu point should i click
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Staren,  none that i know of.  depends on what you are wanting to do i guess.
[07:43] <ubuntu> bye
[07:43] <Dr_willis> !apt
[07:43] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:44] <nagyv> newbie: what would you like to do?
[07:44] <nagyv> Dr_willis: I gave up with the seconlife client (after a reboot)
[07:44] <newbie> nagyv: i want to install kubuntu or ubuntu
[07:45] <nagyv> newbie: do you have already the cd/dvd
[07:45] <nagyv> ?
[07:45] <Bubba_Gump> which is better - gnome or kde ?
[07:45] <nagyv> Bubba_Gump: you are in the kde channel :)
[07:45] <RadiantFire> of course kde, silly!
[07:45] <RadiantFire> ;-)
[07:45] <Staren> Well, are there advantages of ext2/3 over NTFS?
[07:45] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[07:45] <newbie> nagyv: i have ubuntu and kubuntu cds . but the scsi devices don't boot
[07:46] <nagyv> newbie: what you mean by "the scsi devices don't boot"?
[07:46] <newbie> i have 2 cd burners and one cd rom in my computer, all of them scsi-based
[07:47] <newbie> nagyv: the scsi controller recognizes them but i can't get the cd rom booted
[07:47] <nagyv> newbie: aha, probably you should set up the booting sequence in the bios
[07:47] <BluesKaj> zzz_,, nope ..i'm going around ina vicious circle bwtween these 2 libs  ,libdivxencore0_1%3a5.0.1-1_i386.deb ..and libdivxdecore.so.0.0.0...one can't be used cuz it tries to over write the other yet neithe r can ve removed
[07:48] <newbie> nagyv: i already tried several comfigurations in the bios but nothing works
[07:48] <BluesKaj> neither can be  removed
[07:48] <Narada> how do you disable a kernel module ?
[07:48] <Narada> like agpgart
[07:48] <defrysk> Narada, blacklist it ?
[07:48] <zzz_> Try --force ...
[07:49] <newbie> nagyv: if i boot from a boot disk, it only recognizes the floppy and hard disk drives
[07:49] <nagyv> newbie: there are two possibilities: 1. the cd you wrote is not bootable (there was a problem whan you burned it), 2. your computer is set up to boot from the hard disk
[07:49] <Narada> defrysk: how
[07:49] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  i got it working.. and to be honest... its just... dull..
[07:49] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  ive had more fun in irc chat rooms.
[07:49] <defrysk> add it to the blacklist file
[07:49] <nagyv> newbie: you should boot from the cdrom somehow
[07:50] <nagyv> Dr_willis: do you know a good joke, I am a bit bored :)
[07:50] <newbie> nagyv: how?
[07:50] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  imbored.com
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:50] <BluesKaj> H enedds to set his boot sequence to cdrom in the bios
[07:50] <Bubba_Gump> nagyv: read a book :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> I knwo a good game demo for ya.. its a comercial game but the demo has about 40 levels.
[07:50] <defrysk> Narada, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:50] <Narada> defrysk: where is that
[07:50] <nagyv> newbie: do you have any other boot cds around? just to check wheather it's your bios setting or the cd
[07:51] <Narada> defrysk: k
[07:51] <newbie> newbie: i will try suse linux
[07:51] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  http://www.grubbygames.com/fizzball/
[07:51] <voicu> why is ls `yes` bad? found it on bash, seems to take a lot of memory...
[07:51] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  after playing it for an hr or 2.. tempted to buy it. :)
[07:52] <voicu> maybe an offtopic channel, huh?
[07:52] <nagyv> newbie: do you have it, or will just download it?
[07:52] <BluesKaj> newbie, do you know how to access your system BIOS ?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  go to #debian and ask them why Ubuntu is better.. :) that will get some interesting responses.
[07:53] <nagyv> Dr_willis: :)
[07:53] <newbie> blueskaj: yes, i use computers since 15 years
[07:53] <mimosh> hi to all
[07:53] <Dr_willis> I got comptuers that are 15+ years old.
[07:54] <BluesKaj> well using a nick like newbie isn't exactly the right one if you don't want dumb questions then
[07:54] <defrysk> Narada, to stop the module now use sudo modprobe -r <module>
[07:54] <newbie> blueskaj: i'm only a newbie in kubuntu
[07:55] <mimosh> Can I ask you a question
[07:55] <Narada> defrysk: k
[07:55] <mimosh> about starting services in kubuntu
[07:55] <defrysk> Narada, not sure if kernel supports it tho
[07:55] <defrysk> but should work fine
[07:55] <intelikey> i just found out that i was kin to my mother...
[07:56] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  thats legal in some states.
[07:56] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:56] <intelikey> oh.  i mean   good morning
[07:56] <intelikey> :)
[07:56] <mimosh> I have installed name server on my Kubuntu box but I don't know how to start it automaticly on startup
[07:56] <mimosh> anyone
[07:57] <Dr_willis> system admin -> runlevel editor   perhaps.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> if it installed.. i though it should start up automaticially.
[07:57] <Dr_willis> but ive never messed with running my own nameserver. so it may differ
[07:57] <intelikey> or hos do you start it manually      add that to /etc/rc.local     even
[07:58] <thunder_storm> hi everywhere
[07:58] <intelikey> how ^
[07:58] <mimosh> I added manually to rc.local but I want it to start automaticly
[07:58] <thunder_storm> i use kubuntu 6.10
[07:59] <thunder_storm> and have optimized my font-look with help of the german wiki
[07:59] <thunder_storm> the fonts looks good - but not in OpenOffice
[07:59] <thunder_storm> i have made a screenshot - can you help me?
[07:59] <intelikey> Dr_willis are you kidding... *buntu is moving away from users actually doing any admin stuff....
[07:59] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: have your fonts one with anti-aliasing ?
[08:00] <thunder_storm> please look here: http://www.braier.net/1/screenshot1.png
[08:00] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  so its nit just admin icons in there.. all the setting icons are in there.
[08:00] <thunder_storm> i cannot find an solution for that
[08:00] <sandra_> hi
[08:00] <jorik> how can i make a directory so that everyone can put files in em ?
[08:00] <Dr_willis> makes it much easier to find the stuff.. but egads.. it uses 'ghasp' the old control-center! :)
[08:01] <Dr_willis> jorik,  everyone as in everyone on the local machine?or everyone on the network
[08:01] <jorik> Dr_willis: i got a portable HD, it has ext2 on it, i can't write to it
[08:01] <thunder_storm> Bubba_Gump: can you understand my problem?
[08:02] <Dr_willis> jorik,  mount it.. make a dir on it.. chown THAT dir to be owned by the user/users
[08:02] <intelikey> jorik sudo chmod 777 /dir
[08:02] <Dr_willis> thats how i do it.. i dont chown the mount point. :)
[08:02] <intelikey> jorik or if that's M$ format   mount it with umask=000
[08:02] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: yes
[08:02] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: arial is a lousy font :)
[08:02] <sandra_> I have got the prob that I can't use adept in write mode as some app seems to be using the packaging system database. This occours right after reboot and using ps aux | grep apt* I only get the apt indexer listed
[08:03] <sandra_> any ideas how to solve this?
[08:03] <Bubba_Gump> thunder_storm: try deja vu sans
[08:03] <jorik> thanks :o)
[08:03] <thunder_storm> Bubba_Gump: ah, its only a font-problem? why?
[08:10] <zzz_> Does anyone see error messages similar to: "bash: /dev/null: Permission denied" ?
[08:11] <zzz_> I have to use "chmod 777 /dev/null" to solve this problem.
[08:11] <intelikey> just when i thught i had major char/block addressing figured out i find that there are 1432 exceptions to the 5 rules.....    hmmmm
[08:11] <FFForever> what dose kubuntu come with?, grub or lilo?
[08:11] <zzz_> GRUB of course...
[08:11] <intelikey> zzz_ i have
[08:12] <FFForever> and how do i change the splash screen?, in the grub conf?
[08:12] <intelikey> FFForever it comes with both but installs grub by default
[08:12] <zzz_> intelikey, Do you have any information regarding the cause of that?
[08:13] <intelikey> zzz_ heh yeah the perms are set incorrectly on /dev/null  lol   no all joking aside.   i think it's in the way udev is configured    i just added a line to change the perms in /etc/rc.local and for got about it.
[08:14] <FFForever> so how do i change splash?
[08:14] <intelikey> zzz_ probably in /etc/default
[08:15] <zzz_> The problem is that it usually occurs after package installation/removal.
[08:15] <zzz_> rc.local is run during boot however...
[08:15] <intelikey> yep and will correct it upon each boot
[08:16] <intelikey> FFForever grub wont work for me so i can't answer that.
[08:16] <intelikey> FFForever you can ask in #ubuntu   because that is not kde specific
[08:17] <intelikey> about 3 times as many users in there.
[08:17] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[08:17] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:18] <FFForever> !splash screen
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splash screen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <intelikey> !splash
[08:18] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[08:18] <heinkel_111> FFForever: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341
[08:19] <heinkel_111> intelikey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30341
[08:19] <intelikey> !i
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <Dheeraj_k> hi i am not able to play mp3 on kubuntu. i have installed  all the codecs ugly mad win32 etc but still no luck
[08:21] <intelikey> !mp3
[08:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <Dheeraj_k> wats the sollution?
[08:22] <Staren> !isthereanythingyoucan'tanswer?
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isthereanythingyoucan'tanswer? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: but did you install the ones mentioned there?
[08:22] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: check that first link
[08:22] <DralaFi> Hi. I decided to upgrade the kernel, and also got rid of the initrd. I copied the udev, hal and dbus scripts from initrd and I do believe that they are all running, but now I don't get the Windows-XP-like popup window in KDE when I plug in USB storage devices.
[08:22] <DralaFi> Can anyone help?
[08:23] <Dheeraj_k> yes every thing including xine
[08:23] <Dheeraj_k> all the player except amarok is able to run mp3
[08:24] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: what's the error you get?
[08:24] <apokryphos> intelikey: but then you'd just have to reinstall it :P
[08:25] <intelikey> apokryphos never have yet
[08:25] <apokryphos> what do you prefer?
[08:25] <intelikey> vlc
[08:25] <apokryphos> for music? Can't imagine it providing the best experience
[08:25] <fibonacci> amaroK is really, really nice, get the new version 1.4.4
[08:26] <intelikey> no for music  sox  for vidio vlc
[08:26] <apokryphos> ubotu: info sox
[08:26] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB
[08:26] <intelikey> i don't like amarok
[08:26] <apokryphos> why?
[08:27] <intelikey> i don't know.  it reminds me of windows media player maybe... not sure
[08:27] <apokryphos> :/
[08:27] <intelikey> it's arbitrary.   i don't need a reason.
[08:27] <fibonacci> intelikey: Not likely, Windows Media Player reminds you of amaroK.
[08:27] <Dheeraj_k> it is not giving any error
[08:28] <apokryphos> what happens then
[08:28] <Dheeraj_k> that is the main problem
[08:28] <apokryphos> what happens then
[08:29] <Dheeraj_k> best feature of amarok is it save the play list in mysql satabase
[08:29] <intelikey> fibonacci yea i think it did.   it had that stupid cpu/ram eating psycadelik vidio thingy going on....  that reminds me of something in windows....  :)
[08:29] <arriesp> how can i install a scaner?
[08:29] <parker`> Okay, ever since I did a flash install (via Firefox installer) firefox just crashes everytime I try to load a page. This is very frustrating. :\
[08:29] <fibonacci> If you had said iTunes, perhaps, but imho, nothing like WMP
[08:30] <intelikey> also the fact that it expects net access,  that's a no go imo.
[08:31] <Dheeraj_k> guys which player do u like most for playing songs?
[08:31] <ubuntu> hi/salut
[08:31] <ubuntu> uh
[08:31] <fibonacci> amaroK
[08:31] <ubuntu> /nick Dj-Serpen
[08:31] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: amarok is the most popular and default on kubuntu
[08:31] <intelikey> sox Dheeraj_k but you won't like it.
[08:31] <apokryphos> ubuntu: no space before /nick
[08:31] <ubuntu> okay
[08:31] <Dj-Serpen> lol
[08:32] <Dj-Serpen>  i have typed //nick :S
[08:32] <apokryphos> hi
[08:32] <apokryphos> =)
[08:32] <Dj-Serpen> it's / :P
[08:32] <apokryphos> ubotu: fr
[08:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:32] <Dj-Serpen> yay
[08:32] <dr0fnax> !vim
[08:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[08:33] <Dheeraj_k> why amarok does not support mp3? by default?
[08:33] <fibonacci> legal reasons.
[08:33] <bLaZeD> !uuid
[08:33] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[08:34] <Dheeraj_k> wat about xmms?
[08:34] <intelikey> the thing i like about sox is the fact that it doesn't do anything "fancy" just play's you sound files.   being a bash-scripter it likes me to just tell it what to play, and it does it.  simple apps for simple minds i guess.
[08:34] <apokryphos> Dheeraj_k: xmms sucks
[08:34] <DralaFi> xmms rocks
[08:34] <intelikey> xmms is beter than amarok  :)
[08:34] <apokryphos> yuck
[08:35] <intelikey> but i don't like xmms either.
[08:35] <fibonacci> intelikey: I think you got it in for amaroK :)
[08:35] <apokryphos> what is it? The beautiful x-menus, the complete lack of configuration, or ugliness that makes it better
[08:35] <Dheeraj_k>  apokryphos: why?
[08:35] <DralaFi> amarok has an annoying delay between songs and isn't as fast as xmms when holding down 'b'
[08:35] <intelikey> fibonacci just like some in here have a special afenity for it. :)
[08:35] <intelikey> <--anti-
[08:36] <fibonacci> <-- PRO :) (:
[08:36] <apokryphos> but juk is also good
[08:36] <DralaFi> can someone please explain to me what this local-top, local-bottom scripts are for in the initrd?
[08:36] <arriesp> how can i install an scaner?
[08:36] <apokryphos> ubotu: scanner
[08:36] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:36] <DralaFi> if you want a music manager, madman is awesome
[08:37] <apokryphos> DralaFi: #ubuntu might be better for your question
[08:37] <DralaFi> thanks apokryphos
[08:39] <Dheeraj_k> i like the interface of xmms  with almond skin
[08:40] <intelikey> oh and that's another thing i don't like.  if the interface is so ugly you need to "skin" it   why not just fix the interface....
[08:41] <intelikey> ok i'm finished adding colour to the channel....
[08:42] <Dheeraj_k> does any 1 know why interface of realplayer is so ugly in linux?
[08:43] <Dheeraj_k> when i installed realplayer first time i was expecting windows type interface in its linux version
[08:44] <Dheeraj_k> but when i run it first time i got the 1000 walt shock
[08:44] <intelikey> ERROR!  dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file  <--- postfix is not installed why should there be a postfix user account ?
[08:47] <intelikey> Dheeraj_k sound promicing. i may have to look at realplayer
[08:47] <fibonacci> :}
[08:49] <intelikey> yeah.  i do.   hmmmmm
[08:51] <Dheeraj_k> don't use it it is worst player ever made for linux
[08:51] <logicalbomb> what player is that?
[08:51] <intelikey> realplayer ?
[08:51] <logicalbomb> I thought realplayer was just the worse player ever made period
[08:52] <intelikey> :)
[08:52] <intelikey> that settels it.
[08:52] <logicalbomb> i've had success with Xine for media
[08:52] <logicalbomb> and Amarok for audio
[08:52] <Dheeraj_k> did u heard about latest bug in firefox? which allow hacker to obtaing login id password from password manager
[08:53] <intelikey> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:53] <intelikey>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[08:53] <intelikey> E: Broken packages <--- guess the revisit is off
[08:53] <logicalbomb> I don't worry about the exploits I go ahead and post my IP address and passwords in my personal blogs
[08:54] <intelikey> my user accounts don't have passwords....
[08:54] <intelikey> :p
[08:54] <logicalbomb> I run in root while trying out shell commands I get over IRC >.>
[08:55] <Dheeraj_k> cool! :D
[08:55] <intelikey> first lier aint ever got a chance.....
[08:55] <logicalbomb> lol
[08:55] <intelikey> logicalbomb /whois intelikey  will prove that....
[08:55] <intelikey> :)
[08:55] <logicalbomb> I am new to Kubuntu but it's the most comfortable system i've ever used
[08:56] <intelikey> just like an old shue
[08:56] <nagyv> Dr_willis: Fizzball is really nice, but I could not really enjoy it :(
[08:56] <logicalbomb> never got into IRC though, I thought i'd join the community after getting linux configured and working correctly
[08:57] <logicalbomb> However, I can't get my p2p software working even though I installed the java packages
[08:57] <logicalbomb> it seems to look like it's going to start and then just decide it never wants to
[08:58] <intelikey> !p2p
[08:58] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:58] <Dheeraj_k> Chk this out huge list of software for ubuntu and family http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31989
[08:58] <logicalbomb> that and I have Nvidia Drivers installed but when I switch the Xorg.conf from driver = nv to Nvidia it fails
[08:58] <logicalbomb> turn it back and it works out
[08:58] <intelikey> that wiki page "might" help ^
[08:58] <logicalbomb> I have frostwire and Limewire
[08:58] <logicalbomb> and Ktorrent
[08:58] <logicalbomb> but the wire's don't work
[08:59] <intelikey> did you check the page for info on that ?
[08:59] <cloakable> Anyone here good with Kommander?
[08:59] <intelikey> well its time for me to go.
[09:00] <logicalbomb> hmmm
[09:00] <logicalbomb> No yield for helpful info
[09:01] <Dheeraj_k> yday i compiled and installed latest version of linux kernel and now kubuntu is running faster :)
[09:02] <fibonacci> how do i register my nick in irc ?
[09:02] <logicalbomb> I need to learn how to do that... I had to work so hard just to install the graphix driver
[09:02] <logicalbomb> switching from windows is no easy task, other then the relief of having the system run without a BSOD in sight
[09:02] <logicalbomb> !register
[09:02] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[09:03] <helpmeplease> ok, I am still having trouble getting kubuntu-desktop to install
[09:04] <Amority> Hello everyone :D
[09:04] <Dheeraj_k> helpmeplease: wats the problem?
[09:05] <helpmeplease> well
[09:05] <helpmeplease> lol, I thought I got it figured out last night
[09:05] <helpmeplease> but when I went to actually install it today, it won't
[09:05] <helpmeplease> to be honest, I guess I'm not completely sure what I'm doing
[09:06] <nagyv> Dosemu is asking for my keyboard map. What does dis mean?
[09:06] <Amority> the layout of the keys on your keyboard
[09:06] <logicalbomb> qwerty or dvorak
[09:06] <logicalbomb> etc
[09:07] <helpmeplease> I get the following error when trying to install kubuntu-desktop through Synaptic:
[09:07] <logicalbomb> how do I launch my wine GUI
[09:07] <nagyv> Amority: I know this, but how should I pass it to dosemu?
[09:07] <helpmeplease> Kubuntu-desktop:
[09:07] <Amority> nagyv : im sorry I never changed my keymap so I dont know :(
[09:08] <helpmeplease> Depnds: amarok but it is not going to be installed
[09:08] <helpmeplease> Depends: kopete but it is not going to be installed
[09:08] <logicalbomb> amarok and kopete usually come pre-installed on Kubuntu
[09:08] <logicalbomb> it did on my version
[09:09] <nagyv> Is here anyone using dosemu? How should I set the $_layout_option?
[09:09] <Amority> mine too
[09:09] <helpmeplease> well
[09:09] <helpmeplease> ok, here is my situation
[09:09] <helpmeplease> I installed Ubuntu Dapper Drake off of my CD
[09:09] <helpmeplease> I wanted to activate the KDE enviroment
[09:09] <logicalbomb> I am using Kubuntu
[09:09] <helpmeplease> which wouldn't work at first for some reason
[09:10] <logicalbomb> haven't tried dapper drake
[09:10] <nagyv> helpmeplease: are the mentioned program available on the ubuntu CD?
[09:10] <helpmeplease> I was then told to remove the # symbol from the source.list and update all the files
[09:10] <helpmeplease> no, they weren't for some reason
[09:10] <logicalbomb> I know it was really hard setting up my graphics drivers, any time I tried to do the standard apt-get install of the glx driver for nvidia it screwed every thing up
[09:10] <helpmeplease> but updating was supposed to have downloaded those files
[09:10] <nagyv> helpmeplease: are they there now?
[09:10] <helpmeplease> and those specific two are listed on the Synaptic package list
[09:10] <Amority> logicalbomb, me too but I use ati ^-^
[09:10] <helpmeplease> lol
[09:11] <helpmeplease> so I don't know why it won't work
[09:11] <logicalbomb> you're a braver man then I am for configuring an ATi in linux
[09:11] <logicalbomb> my X1900 XTX on my personal PC told me to shove it
[09:11] <helpmeplease> unless those two are relying on another package that isn't there, in some odd and twisted chain reaction
[09:11] <logicalbomb> I didn't even try to venture into getting the crossfired enabled
[09:11] <logicalbomb> thus my laptop remains loyal to linux and my desktop a traitor loaded with microsuck
[09:12] <logicalbomb> crossfire*
[09:12] <nagyv> helpmeplease: try 'apt-get install kubuntu desktop'  from the command line, it will ask wheather you would like to install the dependencies or will say that they are not available
[09:12] <robotgeek> nagyv: just say yes
[09:13] <helpmeplease> you forgot the sudp part
[09:13] <helpmeplease> :P
[09:13] <helpmeplease> *sudo
[09:13] <nagyv> robotgeek: I get no questions :(
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> have you considered doing a -f install?
[09:13] <logicalbomb> he assumed you'de already know something so trivial help :)
[09:14] <logicalbomb> I want to try to configure something similar to proto-wall in my linux system
[09:15] <Amority> dang cross fire in linux... dangerous :P
[09:15] <logicalbomb> didn't even attempt it
[09:15] <logicalbomb> kept that in winblows
[09:15] <Amority> I dont think i would either
[09:16] <helpmeplease> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33964/
[09:17] <logicalbomb> I couldn't even get my card to work in the first place
[09:17] <helpmeplease> so same problem as the Synaptic installer
[09:17] <logicalbomb> as soon as I ventured past vesa I got a big black screen of nothingness
[09:19] <helpmeplease> any ideas?
[09:19] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: dapper/edgy?
[09:20] <helpmeplease> dapper
[09:20] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: do you have dapper-updates enabled?
[09:21] <helpmeplease> I believe so....I just got updates about 20 minutes ago
[09:21] <helpmeplease> ^_^
[09:25] <|Sputnik|> yooo
[09:26] <helpmeplease> robotgeek: still there?
[09:26] <deian> i came to Kubuntu from openSuse, and i'm really impressed!!
[09:26] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: yes. no i mean it is a separate repository
[09:27] <helpmeplease> ???
[09:27] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: i will paste my sources.list
[09:28] <helpmeplease> ok
[09:29] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/257821
[09:30] <helpmeplease> ok
[09:31] <helpmeplease> and you want me to do what?
[09:31] <helpmeplease> copy the thing over my current list?
[09:31] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: yes, after backing your old one up
[09:32] <helpmeplease> ok
[09:32] <helpmeplease> just a sec then
[09:32] <logicalbomb> what do you substitute kwrite or Kate in kubuntu with to get it to launch in terminal
[09:33] <deian> sudo -i?
[09:34] <logicalbomb> really?
[09:34] <logicalbomb> i didn't know that
[09:34] <deian> i'm not sure
[09:34] <logicalbomb> I kept seeing gedit being used but I was under the impression that was for gnome only
[09:34] <deian> yes i think it is
[09:35] <deian> hence the G in the title
[09:35] <logicalbomb> so when I substituted gedit for kate or kwrite when my graphics driver was out it told me it couldn't load X
[09:35] <deian> kate is for KDE
[09:35] <logicalbomb> I know i'm running KDE
[09:35] <deian> oh kate is graphical only
[09:35] <logicalbomb> hence Kubuntu
[09:35] <logicalbomb> so is Kwrite
[09:35] <deian> yes
[09:35] <deian> try nano
[09:35] <logicalbomb> I don't know if I have a none GUI based editor
[09:35] <deian> nano is simple
[09:36] <deian> yeah u do,
[09:36] <deian> nano is included in standard installation
[09:36] <logicalbomb> nice
[09:36] <logicalbomb> and ty
[09:36] <deian> no problems
[09:36] <logicalbomb> what about this gnutella stuff?
[09:36] <deian> ctrl-w to save
[09:36] <logicalbomb> can I use that in KDE
[09:36] <logicalbomb> or is that only gnome too, and the reason frostwire and limewire wont work on my sys
[09:37] <deian> i'm not sure
[09:37] <deian> if u installed kubuntu kde and gnome programs should work under kde too
[09:37] <logicalbomb> I only installed KDE
[09:38] <logicalbomb> I don't think I installed gnome
[09:38] <deian> thats still ok
[09:38] <deian> kubuntu will have the files to run gnome programs too
[09:38] <logicalbomb> alien was a sweet program to pick up
[09:38] <logicalbomb> ran the RPM to unload limewire
[09:38] <fibonacci> Ok, giving Kubuntu my first go today, let's see what it's got....
[09:39] <deian> where have u come from fibonacci?
[09:39] <deian> i mean what distro?
[09:39] <fibonacci> SuSE
[09:39] <deian> me too
[09:39] <deian> kubuntu is much better
[09:39] <deian> i've even got beryl running stable on it too
[09:39] <fibonacci> Well I took the Ubuntu + KDE aproach, and so far so good. But we will see.. time will tell.
[09:40] <helpmeplease> robotgeek: ok, I got it all saved....now try that command again?
[09:40] <robotgeek> helpmeplease: yup
[09:41] <fibonacci> deian: If I don't like it, I think I will look further, Fedora perhaps...
[09:41] <helpmeplease> here goes nothing
[09:41] <logicalbomb> I wish linux could run my games
[09:41] <logicalbomb> =\
[09:41] <deian> i felt fedora was horrible
[09:42] <fibonacci> deian: Really, why ?
[09:42] <deian> i asked it to install kde as my desktop
[09:42] <deian> i finish installation and there was gnome
[09:42] <fibonacci> As in Gnome lib's and KDE desktop, or only Gnome ?
[09:42] <deian> gnome as the desktop
[09:43] <deian> maybe kde was also installed
[09:43] <deian> my wireless card didn't work either
[09:43] <ubuntu> Hi
[09:43] <fibonacci> hmm.. odd. Well I'm having trouble deciding what Distro to go with, SuSE got some stuff I like, and so does Kubuntu (but I don't like the whole Gnome feel of it).
[09:44] <deian> no, gnome smells
[09:44] <deian> kubuntu is VERY stable comapred to suse
[09:44] <ubuntu> kubuntu is the best
[09:44] <fibonacci> deian: Jepp, so far I can agree.
[09:44] <deian> the adept packager works much better than Yasts
[09:44] <Dheeraj_k> i hate rpm :p
[09:44] <logicalbomb> i got a free version of SuSe 10 in my LFX magazine
[09:44] <fibonacci> Oh god yes, YaST is a pain in th eas.
[09:44] <logicalbomb> best coaster i've ever owned.
[09:45] <cox377> i need to extract the mpeg from a vcd file, can anyone recommend me some software please?
[09:45] <deian> they fixed it in 10.2 more or less, but Adept is much faster
[09:45] <logicalbomb> mplayer then isntall the xine extension
[09:45] <deian> and i got beryl working smoothly with the 3D world plugin enabled
[09:45] <deian> it looks awesome
[09:46] <fibonacci> nice. How about using Debian ?
[09:46] <deian> debian is more hardcore isn't it
[09:46] <deian> kubuntu is based on debian isn't it
[09:46] <fibonacci> yeah it is. So are they similar ?
[09:46] <Lynoure> deian: less cutesy and more flexible, and will not work out of box that often
[09:47] <deian> i can't answer that really because i've not tried debian
[09:47] <deian> debian is more like gentoo and slackware i think
[09:47] <Lynoure> deian: I'm considering going back to it, I prefer breaking things myself =)
[09:47] <deian> lol
[09:48] <deian> when i feel more comfortable with linux i may go to debian
[09:48] <Grum> i have a question about partition
[09:48] <Grum> *partitions
[09:48] <Lynoure> Grum: ask away?
[09:48] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[09:48] <Grum> Is there a program I can use to find out how much space I'm using in a partition?
[09:48] <jpgeerets> someone tryed install and use vmware 5.5 in edgy?
[09:49] <Grum> I have home on one partition and / on another
[09:49] <jpgeerets> Grum: try using df -k from commandline
[09:49] <Grum> ok thanks
[09:49] <logicalbomb> how do I launch my wine GUI
[09:50] <Grum> Jpgeerets: It worked. . . thanks very much!
[09:50] <robotgeek> Grum: df -kh
[09:50] <Dheeraj_k> i think by typing sudo wine
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> Grum, fdisk -h i think
[09:50] <deian> in gui?
[09:51] <logicalbomb> yeah no GUI
[09:51] <logicalbomb> and i can't find the file paths for the installed exe's
[09:51] <jpgeerets> great Grum
[09:52] <deian>  u do: wine "path"
[09:52] <deian> in windows style yea
[09:52] <Chousuke> Dheeraj_k: You don't need sudo for it.
[09:52] <deian> so say i'd wanna run itunes i'd go: bash~: wine "c:\program files\itunes\itunes.exe"
[09:53] <deian> of course itunes wont' work cos it's a pain
[09:54] <logicalbomb> no love
[09:54] <Dheeraj_k> i prefer to run windows application in windows and linux app in linux
[09:55] <logicalbomb> yeah but i want my music so bad
[09:55] <logicalbomb> lol
[09:55] <logicalbomb> I can't get any p2p files working
[09:55] <logicalbomb> even after java installs
[09:55] <deian> and me too
[09:55] <jpgeerets> why wanna use p2p
[09:55] <deian> i have 3200 tunes on itunes stuck on another pc
[09:55] <Dheeraj_k> does windows virus harm wine too?
[09:55] <deian> i doubt it
[09:56] <deian> viruses harm windows files and processes and not the programs so much
[09:56] <logicalbomb> because I want to sample music i'm about to legally purchase?
[09:56] <logicalbomb> thats why I want frostwire or limewire on linux
[09:56] <fdoving> !frostwire | logicalbomb
[09:56] <ubotu> logicalbomb: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:56] <logicalbomb> because I need my traveling tunes to plug into when my kids are being hoolagans in the back seat of the car and not shutting up
[09:57] <xwolf-> sometimes i get "Conversation with su failed"
[09:57] <xwolf-> why is that?
[09:58] <noelvis> anybody there .....
[10:00] <logicalbomb> YES
[10:00] <logicalbomb> fdoving I love you!
[10:01] <xwolf-> !mobile
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <xwolf-> !c650
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c650 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:01] <logicalbomb> !qpit
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qpit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <_adaptr> !xwolf
[10:02] <fdoving> !kphone
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xwolf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[10:02] <fdoving> !kmobile
[10:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmobile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <fdoving> !kmobiletools
[10:02] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[10:02] <Dheeraj_k> wats going on? bot war?
[10:04] <Dheeraj_k> !kpdf
[10:04] <ubotu> kpdf: PDF viewer for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 315 kB, installed size 1004 kB
[10:04] <robotgeek> !msgthebot > fdoving
[10:04] <Dheeraj_k> !apache
[10:04] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[10:04] <fdoving> yeah i know.
[10:05] <Dheeraj_k> !bot
[10:05] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:05] <fdoving> !botsnack
[10:05] <ubotu> Yum!
[10:05] <fdoving> :)
[10:05] <Dheeraj_k> !ubotu
[10:06] <Dheeraj_k> !botcoke
[10:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botcoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:06] <Dheeraj_k> !windows
[10:06] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:07] <logicalbomb> frostwire is sticking open
[10:07] <logicalbomb> the gui is going blank
[10:07] <Dheeraj_k> !billgates
[10:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about billgates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Dheeraj_k> !buntu
[10:08] <logicalbomb> !microsoft
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microsoft - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <logicalbomb> !botpet
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botpet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <Dheeraj_k> !redhat
[10:08] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[10:08] <fdoving> !msgthebot
[10:08] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:09] <Dheeraj_k> !girl
[10:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:09] <logicalbomb> !limewire
[10:09] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:09] <deian> llol
[10:09] <Dheeraj_k> !=:)
[10:10] <Dheeraj_k> !whoami
[10:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whoami - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <fdoving> Dheeraj_k: it's enought now. please use msg or http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:10] <Dheeraj_k> oh ok
[10:10] <fdoving> thanks.
[10:11] <logicalbomb> frostwire is such a lier
[10:11] <logicalbomb> it is not connecting.
[10:11] <_adaptr> a what ?
[10:12] <logicalbomb> liar
[10:12] <deian> no
[10:12] <DralaFi> DralaFi I'm trying to get kde to pop up a window alerting me that a usb device was found. This works in kubuntu with the initrd, but i'm trying to have an initrd-less system. udev is running. HAL is running, dbus is running. I can't see what's wrong. Can anyone offer some help? Especially on how to diagnose which part is not working.
[10:12] <_adaptr> software is generally incapable of lying
[10:12] <logicalbomb> a lier is when you badly misspell liar?
[10:12] <deian> it takes time to connect
[10:12] <logicalbomb> !smartass
[10:12] <deian> it's gathering sources
[10:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smartass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <logicalbomb> i'll get angry at in-animate objects and software all I want, and further more i'll assign it human attributes whenever I feel like it
[10:13] <logicalbomb> there for, it lied to me.
[10:14] <deian> has it connected by now?
[10:14] <bill57785> Ok, I'm back (helpmeplease).
[10:14] <bill57785> And Kubuntu is running perfectly. Thank you very much guys.
[10:14] <logicalbomb> no limewire did though
[10:14] <logicalbomb> frostwire didn't want ot
[10:14] <logicalbomb> to*
[10:14] <deian> ohh
[10:16] <logicalbomb> working pretty good now too
[10:16] <logicalbomb> went to sudo nano /usr/bin/limewire
[10:16] <logicalbomb> changed the sh limewire.sh
[10:16] <logicalbomb> to bash limewire.sh
[10:16] <ds_> ll
[10:16] <ds_> Serge
[10:18] <logicalbomb> you know until I started reading linux user and LFX I had no idea how many linux users where in the UK
[10:19] <woodefec> hi
[10:19] <woodefec> how to check the edgy efts md5 checksum?
[10:20] <woodefec> (kubuntu)
[10:20] <woodefec> can't find it nowhere and installation doesnt go properly
[10:20] <Dheeraj_k> ubuntuguide.org
[10:20] <xwolf-> sometimes i get "Conversation with su failed"
[10:21] <xwolf-> why is that?
[10:21] <woodefec> Dheeraj_k : I mean for kubuntu
[10:23] <RaNgO> how to change screen refresh rate on live kubuntu ?
[10:23] <logicalbomb> !samba
[10:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:23] <woodefec> !checksum
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about checksum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <Dheeraj_k> !firewall
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:23] <woodefec> !md5
[10:23] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:24] <Dheeraj_k> this bot has lots of information
[10:25] <Dr_willis> !where is elvis.
[10:25] <Dheeraj_k> aww
[10:25] <bill57785> !girls
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about girls - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:25] <_adaptr> how sad
[10:25] <Dheeraj_k> i already tried that
[10:26] <woodefec> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto - too complicated
[10:26] <Dr_willis> it is?
[10:27] <Dr_willis> i use some md5sum program that puts md5sum menu item under windows context menu.
[10:27] <Dr_willis> right click, 'check md5sum'
[10:27] <bill57785> !pregnancy
[10:27] <woodefec> i am not in windows
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pregnancy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <Dr_willis> then look at the md6sum file
[10:27] <bill57785> ok, anyways
[10:27] <Dr_willis> woodefec,  even easier then.. use md5sum command.
[10:28] <_adaptr> !anything
[10:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:28] <woodefec> Dr_willis : ok, but what to compare it to?
[10:28] <xtavaresx> !nothing
[10:28] <ubotu> nothing is Saying "I don't see anything", or "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an error message, say so, and which error it is, etc.  -  Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[10:28] <Dr_willis> where you downloaded the iso file - there is a filename.md5 that has the sum in it
[10:29] <woodefec> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e - thats the sum i got from my file
[10:30] <Lynoure> Does knetworkmanager detect new networks for you people?
[10:30] <woodefec> when i go here: http://ftp.ds.karen.hj.se/pub/os/linux/ubuntu-iso/kubuntu/edgy/ - i get a page, no dir
[10:30] <woodefec> ill try from mc
[10:31] <Dr_willis> http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/MD5SUMS
[10:31] <BluesKaj> woodefec, works here in firefox
[10:32] <bill57785> !your_dad_but_I_know_a_lot_about_your_mom
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your_dad_but_I_know_a_lot_about_your_mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <Dr_willis> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[10:32] <Dr_willis> looks good to me
[10:32] <LjL> !botabuse
[10:32] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[10:32] <bill57785> ok, sorry
[10:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:32] <woodefec> BluesKaj : got it
[10:32] <ubuntu> hello ppl
[10:33] <woodefec> !windows
[10:33] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:33] <ubuntu> i have a problim can any one solve with me ??
[10:33] <woodefec> thank you all
[10:33] <BluesKaj> woodefec, good
[10:33] <logicalbomb> you know until I started reading linux user and LFX I had no idea how many linux users where in the UK
[10:33] <Dr_willis> !ask
[10:33] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:33] <logicalbomb> !samba
[10:33] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:33] <ubuntu> ok thanx
[10:33] <woodefec> !rumba
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rumba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:34] <raher> can someone help me with my grub config ?
[10:34] <Dr_willis> raher,  what part of the grub config are you having issues with.
[10:35] <conor> well
[10:35] <conor> :D
[10:35] <ubuntu> iam trying to install linux on my pc , when i tried to create partitions manually i found strange things , i have 160 gb hard disk 4 partitions + unallocated area but he read it as sda1 160 gb only what can i do
[10:35] <conor> i want it to boot into the windows bootloader after 4 seconds
[10:36] <conor> Dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/832823
[10:36] <Dr_willis> conor,  yea. thats simple enough.. you can set the 'default' to be whaever you want. by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:36] <_adaptr> !tango
[10:36] <ubotu> tango is a style guideline and icon set. It can be found and read about at http://tango-project.org
[10:36] <Dr_willis> I always set the 'default' to be 0 - and uncomment the windows 'example' in the comments.
[10:36] <_adaptr> I'll be ...
[10:37] <Dr_willis> that way windows stays at the #1 spot and dosent get moved by any new kernels.
[10:37] <ubuntu> when i tried to create the drives under windows by using partition magic i did it then i tried again but he read the one partition only of 13.5 gb
[10:37] <Dr_willis> conor,  the trick to rember is that grub starts counting at 0 :)
[10:38] <Dr_willis> why are pastebin sites always sooo slow...
[10:39] <chupa-chups> so can any one help me
[10:39] <conor> ye they are really slow
[10:39] <chupa-chups> ?????????????????
[10:39] <conor> i rather spam channels :D
[10:39] <_adaptr> chupa-chups: I'm afraid not, unless you're willing to share *what with*
[10:40] <Dr_willis> chupa-chups,  we dont have esp. :)
[10:40] <chupa-chups> excuse me i cant understand
[10:40] <conor> Dr_willis: so how do i do it ?
[10:40] <Dr_willis> chupa-chups,  the problem is?
[10:40] <_adaptr> that makes... 2_+of us
[10:41] <Dr_willis> conor,  edit the grub config.. change the 'default' entry. to point to the windows 'item'
[10:41] <chupa-chups> am trying to install linux on my pc , when i tried to create partitions manually i found strange things , i have 160 gb hard disk 4 partitions + unallocated area but he read it as sda1 160 gb only what can i do
[10:41] <wildchild> how can I go to local server by konqueror
[10:41] <chupa-chups> when i tried to create the drives under windows by using partition magic i did it then i tried again but he read it again  one partition only sda1 of 13.5 gb
[10:41] <_adaptr> chupa-chups: post actual fdisk output pls
[10:42] <chupa-chups> wt???
[10:42] <bill57785> ok, so now I have this USB hub....how do I get it to work on Kubuntu? I have tried running stuff through it, and the things get power, but I don't get it to actually work
[10:42] <_adaptr> chupa-chups: "fdisk -l",. then use a pastebin site to share that with us
[10:42] <Dr_willis> chupa-chups,  for a start dont use partition magic to 'make' the drives for linux.. resize the existing windows drives and leave a large section of the hard drive 'unallocated' then let the installer auto partuition that part of the drive.
[10:42] <wildchild> how can I go to local server by konqueror ?  (In kosole I just write user@IP and that's it)
[10:43] <_adaptr> wildchild: use "localhost"
[10:43] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  'go to' is vague.. you mean use 'ssh to get a shell/login into' a loca machine?
[10:43] <_adaptr> wildchild: this works even on Winblowz
[10:43] <chupa-chups> i already leave 30 for / and 2 gb for swap
[10:43] <wildchild> Dr_willis: yes SSH
[10:43] <conor> Dr_willis nearly everything is commented out
[10:43] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  man ssh
[10:44] <jeff_> !sound
[10:44] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:44] <wildchild> Dr_willis: and there I will dinf instructions how to login via konqueor?
[10:44] <Dr_willis> conor,  no its not. :P ## is a comment.. # is a option for the grub-config tool..       its defaulting to some defaults..   BACKUP your original.
[10:44] <Dr_willis> wildchild,  use the 'FISH://' feature of konquerort to browse files over ssh on a remote machine.
[10:45] <Dr_willis> conor,  example in mine.. --->   default         0
[10:45] <wildchild> Dr_willis: thx I was looking for "FISH"
[10:46] <Dr_willis> conor,  and under 'examples' theres a windows entry. that i uncomment - that way i have a 'windows' item at the top of the list.
[10:46] <Dr_willis> conor,  or count the entries you see in the grub menu and count down and put in that #. (starting at 0)
[10:46] <conor> o.0
[10:47] <Dr_willis> or go read the  grub docs and learn how grub works. its rather straightforwared
[10:48] <conor> !grub
[10:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:49] <conor> if you want to edit it for me on paste bin i'd be grateful :P
[10:49] <Dr_willis> You change 1 line....
[10:49] <Dr_willis> default # where # is what you
[10:49] <Dr_willis> you want/need it to be.
[10:50] <Dr_willis> you may want to 'unhide' the grub menu by default.   by commenting 'out' the hidemenu line..  ##hiddenmenu
[10:50] <Dr_willis> or just hit 'escape' to see the menu at boot time. then count the # of entries/lines. :)
[10:50] <xtavaresx> !sudo -i
[10:50] <Dr_willis> starting at 0
[10:50] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[10:51] <logicalbomb> how do I get my windows computer to show up on this computer in share
[10:51] <logicalbomb> I don't even know how to browse network computers on here
[10:51] <logicalbomb> !samba network
[10:51] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 2836 kB, installed size 7200 kB
[10:51] <Dr_willis> or use the remote places icon to browse network shares.
[10:51] <_adaptr> logicalbomb: set up a local network for your computer, so it occupies the same workgroup as your windows machine(s)
[10:52] <Dr_willis> or put-----> smb:/   in your konqueror address bar.
[10:52] <_adaptr> a local Samba is usually the cleanest way to get it working properly, and the config takes like 5 minutes
[10:52] <logicalbomb> nice
[10:52] <logicalbomb> done
[10:53] <Dr_willis> for linux to linux - i perfer to use the ssh filesystem feature.------->  fish://localhost
[10:53] <Dr_willis> for windows to linux - i tend to use 'winscp3' :)
[10:55] <Dheeraj_k> etherape!
[10:55] <_adaptr> absolutely
[10:56] <Dheeraj_k> kernel!
[10:56] <_adaptr> not ethe-rape, the other thing
[10:57] <conor> hmmm my brain aint taking anything in
[10:57] <_adaptr> winscp and putty are two of the few things that make windows bearable
[10:57] <_adaptr> wireshark is another :)
[10:57] <mnoir> um - cygwin too...
[10:58] <muge2510> hi all
[10:59] <Dheeraj_k> where is bot
[10:59] <_adaptr> mnoir: I'd rather use a solid OS with a broken set of tools than the other way around.. but the margin is small, I admit that
[10:59] <muge2510> who
[10:59] <_adaptr> !who
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:00] <Dheeraj_k> oh
[11:00] <Dheeraj_k> !etherape
[11:00] <mnoir> _adaptr: actually, I do not choose to use any MS stuff unless it is for testing
[11:00] <ubotu> etherape: graphical network monitor modeled after etherman. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3build1 (edgy), package size 370 kB, installed size 928 kB
[11:00] <conor> i think ill have to reinstall kubuntu :_(
[11:01] <Dheeraj_k> even microsoft has some useful tool
[11:01] <Dheeraj_k> backup every thing
[11:01] <Dheeraj_k> !kernel
[11:01] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[11:02] <conor> is there a way to restore all my settings back to the way they were when i installed kubuntu ?
[11:03] <Dheeraj_k> !backup
[11:03] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[11:04] <osiris> what does qt use to render graphics
[11:05] <Dheeraj_k> sudo apt-get install keep
[11:05] <Dheeraj_k> it is a backup tool
[11:06] <osiris> my graphics card is failing, and now any kde app either seg's or hard locks the box
[11:07] <d03boy> does anyone have a laptop with the Fn+F2 keys to turn on and off wireless? I am having trouble making use of this because xserv or SOMETHING keeps intercepting the key combo so I cant use it to turn wireless on
[11:07] <Dheeraj_k> !graphics
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <d03boy> the atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed blabla bla error shows up dmesg
[11:07] <_adaptr> osiris: Qt *is* a rendering engine, it directly speaks to the graphics interface
[11:08] <osiris> ok, then that makes sense
[11:08] <osiris> i just wanted to make sure qt isnt hosed, cause things have been so weird lately
[11:08] <_adaptr> it's a library for rendering graphics, which KDE uses to paint itself on your dekstop
[11:09] <_adaptr> well.. the bad news is that it could be
[11:09] <osiris> ktorrent just disappears when running, systemsettings will seg after about 2 screens, etc.
[11:09] <osiris> i dont think its qt, as it worked with a different nvidia card in here
[11:10] <_adaptr> osiris: run glxgears and glxinfo, see if the card is running okay
[11:10] <osiris> if i do that i KNOW it will hard lock
[11:10] <Dheeraj_k> does any body know how to participate in ubuntu development?
[11:10] <osiris> gl always will hang it
[11:10] <Dheeraj_k> i have got the college project
[11:10] <_adaptr> osiris: then I'd replace the card, see if that solves it
[11:11] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: congratulations
[11:11] <osiris> well for a poor boy to drop 80 bones on a new card, i kinda have to be sure
[11:11] <Dheeraj_k> i am planning to integrate sql with os >>sqldesktop
[11:11] <_adaptr> then download and boot Knoppix
[11:11] <_adaptr> if that does opengl, you KNOW it's software
[11:12] <d03boy> wow. wireless just started working... apparently you have to reboot? I thought you never had to reboot in linux :|
[11:12] <mohammed> Hi guys ! Greetings ..
[11:12] <osiris> _adaptr, good point
[11:12] <_adaptr> d03boy: there can be many reasons to reboot Linux
[11:13] <cloakable> Yeah, a Kernel upgrade/change
[11:13] <mohammed> I'm done with Gnome ! decided to switch to kde ... what's the best memory size to have on PC ?
[11:13] <d03boy> mohammed, good call ;0
[11:13] <_adaptr> mohammed: as much as the CPU architecture can address, obviously
[11:14] <_adaptr> mohammed: none of my workstations have less than 1GB, and my main machine has 2
[11:14] <mohammed> I'm running on P4 2.4 GH ... I assume kde worked fine on my 256 mb memory pc
[11:15] <Dr_willis> 256 ick
[11:15] <_adaptr> hahahahahahha.. erm, sorry, but that's just hilarious.. I haven't run with 256MB since I got a 1GHz + machine
[11:15] <Dr_willis> save up some $$   get more
[11:15] <_adaptr> that would be just enough to get WIndows XP to start up.. or KDE
[11:15] <mohammed> lol ! I know ! hence I'll upgrade :D
[11:16] <mohammed> Will 512 MB be enough then ?
[11:16] <Dheeraj_k> me too have 2.4 with 256ram and kubuntu run fine on it
[11:16] <_adaptr> mohammed: enough for *what* ?
[11:16] <Dheeraj_k> get 2gb!
[11:16] <d03boy> how can I permanently turn off the Konsole bell? it turns itself back on
[11:16] <mohammed> 512+256 ! for Kubuntu everyday use !
[11:17] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  'save as default'
[11:17] <_adaptr> indeed, 2GB dual-channel will cost you around $400, and it will make your PC last at least twice as long as your neighbour kids' 33 GHz Pentium-whatever0the-latest with crappy hardware and 512MB
[11:17] <d03boy> ah, nice
[11:17] <Dheeraj_k> i may upgrade my pc in jan just to trial and test vista
[11:17] <mohammed> oh yeah !
[11:17] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: Vista will be a trial for the length of its lifetime
[11:18] <mohammed> yeah that's anothere point , vista
[11:18] <Dheeraj_k> i agree!
[11:18] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: if all WIndows versions up to now are any indication, anyway
[11:19] <_adaptr> there was one decent Windows version, and they killed it
[11:19] <Dheeraj_k> win98?
[11:19] <d03boy> se
[11:19] <_adaptr> hahaha.. funny
[11:20] <jon_> i have an install question if someone can help
[11:20] <_adaptr> Windows 2000 was finicky, but it ran really well, and even had a workstation version that was actually derived from the server version - not the other way around, as every other windows family before or since
[11:20] <mohammed> Vista won't be able to service for couple of months till software vendors maintain software stability for it
[11:20] <Dheeraj_k> i am currently using window to run visual studio and some games for every thing else there is k-Ubuntu
[11:20] <_adaptr> jon_: ask it, don't wait around
[11:20] <jon_> thanks
[11:21] <Dheeraj_k> i am running winxp on my pc with out aVirus and fWall but still it is running fine :)
[11:21] <jon_> i'm trying to install and want to put grub on the MBR of my sata drive which is sda. by default it puts it on (hd0) and i just need to know what replace this with
[11:21] <jon_> i tried (sd0) and it failed
[11:22] <wildchild> hello
[11:22] <wildchild> where is usually apache located on server
[11:22] <wildchild> I am looking for apache.conf
[11:22] <Dheeraj_k> has any body played 3d game in linux?
[11:22] <wildchild> or what's the command to find apache.conf
[11:22] <Dheeraj_k> !apache
[11:22] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[11:25] <mnoir> wildchild: try 'man locate' as a starter
[11:26] <jon_> does (hd0) symbolize first IDE drive or first disk as in the bios boot order
[11:27] <Dheeraj_k> does any body know wat is the advantage unix has over linux? vise versa
[11:28] <tamacracker> Hey guys?... Doesn't Kubuntu Edgy Eft, come with Wine?
[11:28] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: define "unix"
[11:28] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: Linux *is* a unix-like OS
[11:28] <_adaptr> as in it is POSIX-compliant, and supports the GNU toolset
[11:28] <jon_> ok nm i found it....
[11:28] <Dheeraj_k> yeah that i know
[11:29] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: then what is your question ?
[11:29] <mnoir> tamacracker: come with? no. can you install from the repositories? yes
[11:29] <tamacracker> Oh heh... alright I'll check it out.
[11:29] <Dheeraj_k> why unix is more popular than  linux to run dedicated server
[11:30] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: again, define "unix"
[11:30] <tamacracker> I didn't want to go downloadin it, thnkin i already have it.
[11:30] <Dheeraj_k> hp unix etc
[11:30] <Dheeraj_k> hp-ibm-unix
[11:30] <_adaptr> and it is not, to my knowledge, "mnore popular" - if you take that to mean number of installations worldwide, I think you will find that Linux is used considerably more than any other Unix-like OS - for any reason
[11:31] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: none of those are "official" unixen
[11:31] <_adaptr> HP-UX is proprietary and not compatible with a lot, and IBM VM/CMS is.. well, even less compatible
[11:31] <Dheeraj_k> i mean to run dedicated server like supercomputer
[11:32] <woodefec> i tried to run the kubuntu live CD on two computers and it doesnt
[11:32] <woodefec> md5 sum is fine
[11:32] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: the only "unixen" left of any note today are the various *BSDs and Solaris
[11:32] <woodefec> ill try again and report back if still rubbish
[11:32] <woodefec> c u
[11:32] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: a supercomputer is not the same as a dedicated server - an FTP server is a dedicated server, if it's not used for anything else
[11:33] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: a supercomputer is just that - a supercomputer
[11:33] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: there is a global top-500 list by processing power, and Linux clusters are increasingly the most common occupants
[11:33] <_adaptr> Dheeraj_k: google for it
[11:34] <rexbron> What driver option do I need to enable in my xorg.conf to use the xorg-video-intel driver instead of the i810
[11:34] <rexbron> ?
[11:36] <_adaptr> name the module in your card config
[11:36] <_adaptr> i.e. don't use i810, use the other one
[11:43] <ticless> my system just crashed and I need help! When ever I run ldconfig I get: ldconfig: Input file /lib/libpamc.so.0.79 not found.
[11:45] <_adaptr> then it probably can't find it - have you verified that it exists ?
[11:49] <ticless> yes I exists but is it normal that it's size is 3.7GB?
[11:50] <ticless> my KDE crashed and now whenever I try to boot I get fatal error saying, kdm/usr/bin/kdm libpam.so.0 cannot open shared objec file error 6
[11:50] <_adaptr> ticless: not really... let me check
[11:50] <Makro2> hello
[11:51] <Makro2> any command for to set PATH for root?
[11:51] <ticless> _adaptr: It would really be nice if someone could help my cause I kinda screwed
[11:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ticless, where do you get this error?
[11:53] <ticless> when I try to boot normally, it halts and leave me with a console login where I get the same error everytime I try to login
[11:54] <_adaptr> ticless: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30456 2006-05-12 19:42 /lib/libpam.so.0.79
[11:54] <_adaptr> ticless: 30KB, more or less
[11:54] <ticless> oh sounds more fair
[11:54] <ticless> b--s---rwt 39387 3959343167 4216798134 218, 44 Apr 21  2022 libpam.so.0
[11:55] <_adaptr> ticless: what does file say ?
[11:55] <_adaptr> oops - it;s a block device, something gone and made a block device out of it!
[11:55] <_adaptr> ticless: careful with that - it looks like it could map to an actual file!
[11:55] <ticless> I cant get rid of it, I have tried to reinstall libpam packages without luck
[11:55] <_adaptr> well, if you did manage to delete it you may find that you've just lost an entire 4GB partition
[11:56] <_adaptr> better investigate this a bit further - do you have lsof installed ?
[11:56] <_adaptr> if so , run : "lsof | grep "/lib/libpam.so.0.79"
[11:56] <_adaptr> that'll show you who or what has it open
[11:58] <intelikey> Q how can i get lilo errors if the kernel and initramfs.img are both set imutable and the mbr check sum is unchanged ?
[11:58] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, what version are you on?
[11:58] <logicalbomb> !activesync
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about activesync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <intelikey> LILO version 22.6.1 (Ubuntu)
[11:59] <logicalbomb> can you synchro your smartphone with a windows OS to your linux system?
[11:59] <logicalbomb> or is there a way to replace the OS on your phone
[11:59] <intelikey> LTS 6.6   not sure which one you are asking ?
[11:59] <d03boy> if I use adept and it says i have 55 updaets and oen of them is a linux-image should I do it?
[11:59] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, probably dapper
[11:59] <d03boy> or will that essentially ruin my life
[11:59] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  i always update...
[12:00] <Dr_willis> !info linux-image
[12:00] <ubotu> Package linux-image does not exist in any distro I know
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> d03boy, no you should be fine.
[12:00] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  sounbds like a kernel update to me
[12:00] <intelikey> !info linux-image-386
[12:00] <d03boy> ya it does... which is why I'm scared
[12:00] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> Dr_willis, it is
[12:00] <d03boy> every other kernel update I've ever done has ended with disaster
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> d03boy, in ubuntu? i've never had a problem
[12:01] <d03boy> well I run into every possible problem imaginable :)
[12:01] <d03boy> i'll do it anyway..
[12:01] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago so did you have a thought on that, or was that a retorical question to a moot point ?
[12:02] <logicalbomb> can you synchro your smartphone with a windows OS to your linux system?
[12:04] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, no i don't know much about lilo other than it's a beast to set up
[12:05] <intelikey> i have no trubble setting it up....
[12:05] <MetaBookfoziS> !w32css
[12:05] <MetaBookfoziS> !w32codecs
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32css - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !resticted | MetaBookfoziS
[12:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resticted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:06] <icheyne> hi all. I updated my nvidia graphics driver, so I could run Beryl, but it screwed up my screen resolution. I changed my xorg.conf to nv instead of nvidia. that fixed the problem, but Beryl does not work. Did that just roll my driver back to the old one?
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !restricted | MetaBookfoziS
[12:06] <ubotu> MetaBookfoziS: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:06] <MetaBookfoziS> i have enabled allrepo
[12:07] <MetaBookfoziS> but i don'T ahve that
[12:07] <MetaBookfoziS> that is my problem
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaBookfoziS, hold on a sec
[12:07] <MetaBookfoziS> okay
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> icheyne, you may also want to look at #ubuntu-xgl or #beryl
[12:08] <icheyne> Thanks Admiral_Chicago but I got no joy at #ubuntu-xgl
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaBookfoziS, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> it's not in the repos
[12:08] <icheyne> I'll try #beryl
[12:08] <MetaBookfoziS> but with libdvdcss is the same
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> icheyne, people aren't also around :\
[12:09] <icheyne> Admiral_Chicago, it's a Saturday night, so I can't blame them. :D
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> MetaBookfoziS, i think that is in the repos
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> just copy and paste the commands in konsole
[12:10] <ticless2> sorry my internet went down
[12:10] <ticless2> _adaptr: do you have any suggestions to what I might try?
[12:11] <_adaptr> ticless2: I'd start with "file /lib/libpam.so.0.79", see what it says