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imbrandonfdoving: kdepim uploaded05:25
imbrandonlengau: i wouldent split them as it is a high traffic page UNLESS you make it very very clear there is a new Kubuntu one on the old page05:27
lengau@imbrandon: Thanks for the suggestion.05:39
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nixternalman, i got kubuntu edgy 64 to boot on 1 out of 10 laptops today while shopping..and the one it booted on, was way to expensive and out of stock05:54
Hobbseeouch. 05:54
Hobbseewhy so bad?05:54
nixternali don't know05:54
Hobbseenixternal: did they lock up, or what?05:54
nixternalubuntu was the same way05:54
nixternalmost of them did05:55
nixternala lot spit out kernel panics and rebooted05:55
Hobbseeahhh05:55
nixternalim sure you could fix around it05:55
=== Hobbsee wonders if they died on the "getting a network connection" stage, as my cd often appears to
Hobbseetrue - there's a fair bit of new hardware out there that isnt supported in dapper, at least.05:56
nixternali know one of the laptops is on the laptop list as good with no notes no how it was made good..because it was bad in the store05:56
nixternalbut then again..i wouldn't use livecd to install anyways05:56
Hobbseeouch05:56
Hobbseetrue05:57
nixternali might hold off on a 64bit lappy anyways05:57
Hobbseesmart05:58
nixternali might look at a core2 duo instead05:58
imbrandoncore2 duo's are 64bit silly05:58
nixternalderrr05:58
Hobbseenixternal: i wouldnt expect 64 bit laptops to be running 64bit OS' for a while, by default05:58
nixternalnot a core2 duo05:58
nixternalhaha05:58
Hobbseeimbrandon: that's what i was going to say05:58
nixternala regular centrionM05:58
Hobbseeyou want the core duos?  they're still 32 bit05:58
nixternalcentrino M05:59
=== Hobbsee notes that it *is* worth getting a dual core
nixternaltrue05:59
nixternalbut i am cheap05:59
imbrandonnext month i'm buying me a nice new work station , dual amdx2 64's :)05:59
nixternalthe turion64 booted kubuntu 64 perfectly..everything worked from the get go05:59
imbrandondual proc, dual core :)05:59
nixternalgood price imbrandon ?05:59
imbrandonnixternal: it will cost about 2k when i get done configuring it06:00
nixternalare you building or buy a built one06:00
nixternalholy jesus..im not forking out 2k anytime soon06:00
imbrandon2k is cheap for a top of the line 4 proc system :)06:00
nixternali didn't see the "dual" part to that06:01
nixternalso yes that is good06:01
nixternalhow are the macbooks with kubuntu?06:01
nixternali can get them all day super cheap through college06:01
imbrandonperfect :)06:01
nixternaloooh...well then06:01
imbrandonthey are core2 duo's :)06:01
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nixternalthey seem to cheap to be core206:02
imbrandonthey might be core duo if they are the old ones06:02
nixternalim betting on that actually06:02
imbrandonbut all of them are core or core206:02
imbrandoneither way, why run 64bit os on the, you should have took a 32bit cd :)06:03
imbrandonif you want it for a desktop system06:03
nixternalwell, i wanted them to mess with packaging on 64bit06:04
nixternalreally the reason behind it06:04
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imbrandonreal osx , from the official dvd ;)06:04
nixternali have tried messing with osx...i just can't get used to it06:05
imbrandonwhen i got done, i was like , man this cant be this easy, but it was06:05
imbrandonnixternal: if you can use gnome you can use osx :)06:05
imbrandonthey are almost identical in the way they work06:05
nixternali can't use gnome...or i won't use gnome..one of the 2 ;)06:05
imbrandonlol06:06
nixternalhey, someone fix tomboy so i can have the icon in kicker06:06
Hobbseewhy?  i uploaded basket yesterday06:06
nixternalheh06:06
nixternalbecause tomboy rocks and is a hell of lot easier than basket06:07
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Hobbseeheh06:07
=== Hobbsee notes that the new basket is better
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nixternali almost bought me a lightscribe dvd burner tonight..now that i have seen people got them working in ubuntu06:09
imbrandoni bought one about a year ago06:16
nixternalhave you been lightscribing with kubuntu the entire time?06:17
imbrandonno i dont think i have ever made a light scribe disk in linux06:17
nixternalsomeone just did it recently...it is in the forums somewhere06:18
nixternalthey made a kubuntu disc with it06:18
imbrandonyea in dapper only06:18
nixternalahh06:18
nixternalimbrandon: what mobo does the dual x2s?06:18
imbrandonand dual amd64 board06:19
imbrandonany*06:19
nixternali have not followed hardware in so long06:19
MezRiddell, ping06:20
imbrandonMez: he is on holiday this week06:20
imbrandonMez: need something uploaded ? or just wanna talk to him ?06:25
Mezimbrandon, wondering if he knows who amantia is06:25
imbrandonahh'06:26
imbrandoni dont :(06:26
Mezits weird06:26
MezI think they're trying to hurt katapult06:26
imbrandonhowso ?06:26
Mez<CIA-16> KDE commit: amantia * r607815 katapult/trunk/extragear/utils/katapult/common/katapultcatalog.cpp:06:26
Mez<CIA-16> KDE commit: amantia * r607817 katapult/trunk/extragear/utils/katapult/plugins/ (2 files in 2 dirs): go away from the repository!06:26
Mezlogs like that worry me06:26
nixternalwhoa06:26
imbrandonahh06:27
imbrandonno idea06:27
imbrandonyou can probably ask kde ev06:27
Mezhttp://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/KDE/katapult/06:27
Mezah06:28
MezMakefile.in's06:28
Mezand06:28
Mezer 06:28
Mezkatapultkatalog.cpp06:28
Mezer ...06:30
Mezthats one of the most crucial files ...06:30
nixternalAndras Mantia06:30
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HobbseeMez: you can revert it?06:31
HobbseeMez: and remove their access?06:31
nixternalMez: http://people.kde.nl/andras.html06:31
Mezyeah - I can revert06:31
Meznot revoke06:31
imbrandoncent remove the access, if you have kde svn access you havce access to the whole thing06:32
imbrandonkinda like a MOTU can upload any package06:32
Mezno I dont have access to the admin stuff06:32
Meztrust me06:32
Hobbseeah06:32
imbrandonMez: make sure it was malitious06:32
Mezand areas are sectioned out06:32
Mezimbrandon, I've emailed them06:32
imbrandonthey might not just have put a meaning full log06:32
Mezbut it's a bit scary06:32
Mezthey didnt put ANY " log for the bit tht seems malicius06:32
Mezok, the logs around ti dont seem so06:33
Mezbut still06:34
Meza bit suspcicious ne?06:34
Mezhmmles06:35
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Mezah not delteed06:36
Mezjust changed06:36
=== Mez svn annotate's
Mez607815    amantia #include <string>06:37
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=== ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs
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fdovingimbrandon: thanks for uploading :)11:07
imbrandonfdoving: np, sorry took so long, just had so much going on11:09
fdovingnot a problem. I've got reports it syncs nicely, next in line is having an SRU for it.11:10
fdovingthat's gona be interessting.. it's a rather huge diff.11:10
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fdovingimbrandon: ops in here? request from seveas, /mode #kubuntu-devel +cnt11:53
Seveas(I don't know if -deve was +t before the attack)11:54
robotgeeki have access to #kubuntu-offtopic, how do iset :)11:54
fdovingrobotgeek: /mode #kubuntu-offtopic +cnt11:54
fdovingSeveas: +cn is good anyway.11:55
Seveasyeah11:55
robotgeekthanks11:55
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fdovingimbrandon: drop the t then, +cn only.11:57
fdovinganyway.. food bbl.11:57
fdovingcd11:58
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Hobbsee /mode #kubuntu-devel +cnt12:15
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Hobbseeimbrandon: when will you stop arguing and messing with beryl, and fix kde/qt?  i want g-p-m working again please.12:32
imbrandonlol12:33
imbrandonwhats wrong with g-p-m ?12:33
Hobbseeimbrandon: on feisty?  try running it12:35
imbrandonmy feisty install is a desktop12:35
kwwiiimbrandon: just wait till the next X update and then you will wish that you had gpm :p12:36
imbrandonheh12:36
imbrandonmoins kwwii12:36
kwwiihowdy imbrandon12:36
Hobbseekwwii: why?12:38
Hobbseegsarah@sarah:~$ guidance-power-manager12:39
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ Traceback (most recent call last):12:39
Hobbsee  File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py", line 39, in ?12:39
Hobbsee    from qt import QLabel12:39
HobbseeImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt)12:39
Hobbseeimbrandon: ^12:39
kwwiiHobbsee: just making a joke about the dapper X update...if you have to start working on the console, you want a mouse, I think12:39
imbrandonHobbsee: gpm is console mouse support too iirc12:39
imbrandon:)12:39
Hobbseekwwii: ahhh.  true12:39
imbrandonHobbsee: old school :)12:39
Hobbseei think i'ts also gnome power manager12:39
Hobbseehowever, in this context it12:40
Hobbsee's guidance-power-manager12:40
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wsk`hi, i want to make a public mirror of kubuntu. can anyone point me to a reference? didn't find anything on the webpage01:11
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fdovingwsk`: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Archive/Mirroring01:13
apokryphoswsk`: have a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/mirror01:13
apokryphosor there 8)01:14
wsk`tnx :)01:17
wsk`but isn't this ubuntu? the mirror list of kubuntu seems to be different from ubuntu01:20
wsk`somehow i find this very confusing :_)01:21
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fdovingwsk`: contact mirror@ubuntu.com, they will explain how it's done.01:27
fdovingthat's actually mirrors@ubuntu.co01:28
fdovingm01:28
fdovingasdgfasdf.01:28
fdovingmirrors@ubuntu.com01:28
fdovingthere.. finally.01:28
imbrandonthere actualy #ubuntu-mirrors too01:30
Jucatohehe :)01:31
wsk`*g* ok. thank you all01:34
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Jucatohm.. maybe he was referring to the kubuntu.org repositories?01:35
apokryphosthey really only have addons, but yeah, perhaps he didn't know that we share repositories01:36
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Jucatodo we also file documentation typos as bugs on LP?02:41
robotgeekJucato: yes02:41
Jucatojust found 2 in the packaging guide while reading yesterday :)02:42
robotgeekheh02:42
joe3kanyone can tell me whether mvo shows up on irc?02:46
Hobbsee /whois mvo02:46
joe3kis not02:46
Hobbseejoe3k: he's not here at the moment02:47
apokryphosfrom time to time02:47
apokryphosemail is probably better02:47
joe3kor anyone else feeling to be apt-index-watcher guru? :)02:47
joe3kok02:47
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gnomefreaknormally  during the weekdays02:52
danimomoin02:53
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Jucatois that the proper way to file typos? in bulk?03:01
gnomefreakas long as its in the same section/doc page i guess03:02
gnomefreakha i finally found someone with same apt problem as me :)03:03
Jucatohm... the 2 I found are on the same page, different section... if I see others on another page, I'll probably file separately03:04
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=== Hobbsee fights with xen a bit more
Jucatowow! you're running xen? O.O03:10
Hobbseetrying to03:11
Hobbseewhere are all the username settings and all that kept?03:11
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Jucatois it true that you could have 3D hardware acceleration in Xen (you can't in VMWare...)03:12
Hobbseeno idea...03:13
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Jucatooh03:13
je4dJucato: you might be able to on one guest box, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't do any multiplexing of hw accel03:14
Jucatoah03:15
je4dI use it on a headless box, it's good for that03:15
Jucatoaah03:15
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mhbhi all03:42
Jucatohi mhb03:43
mhbyou probably know the reports about the state of the battery/AC that appear in Kubuntu (if you have a laptop)03:43
mhbbut does anybody know whether they are translatable and if so, where?03:44
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mhbhi pinheiro03:52
pinheirohi mhb03:52
pinheirocarlos sent you that email?03:53
mhbpinheiro: yes, I'm just busy at the weekend03:57
pinheirono problem03:57
pinheirojust to be sure things are in the right path03:57
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pinheiroback05:12
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nixternalgood morning (almost noon) :)06:27
mhbhi06:27
nixternalhey there mhb06:27
mhbnixternal: actually I wanted to talk to you06:27
nixternaloh no06:27
nixternalwhat did i do now ;p06:27
mhbnixternal: IIRC Hobbsee suggested you might be the guy who knows why the Kubuntu docs in Edgy are not translated (at least in Czech; the K-D-G was translated in time but it's not present in Kubuntu Edgy)06:29
nixternalhrmm...that would be up to the czech translators on that one...i can look and see if there are newer updates and see about getting that fixed though06:30
nixternaldunno why it wouldn't be in there06:30
mhbnixternal: well I am the one that translated that06:30
mhbnixternal: before the deadline06:30
nixternallet me check locally..i forgot i can just look at my local repo06:30
nixternalahh hehe..lemme look really quick06:30
mhbnixternal: thanks06:32
nixternalit is translated on help.ubuntu.com just not in your local installation06:33
nixternalthat is an oddball right there06:33
nixternallet me grab the source06:33
nixternalinteresting...all i see in the kubuntu docs is C/ which is english..i don't see "any" translations at all06:39
mhbnixternal: but it seems they are nor in the language-packs because even though I have all the langpacks, no translation is available06:41
nixternali wonder why they didn't get put in the docs package06:44
nixternali just checked to see how dapper was setup, and they are in there, but not in edgy06:44
mhbnixternal: yes, it's basically a regression06:45
nixternalcan you file a bug, or do you want me to?06:45
nixternali will see about creating a patch for it, but i don't know the process of getting it uploaded and who could/would do it06:45
nixternalwell, creating a fixed package is nothing actually06:45
mhbI'll check if there isn't any, after all it probably affects everyone06:45
mhb(bugreport)06:46
nixternali can tell you that there isn't any..i have yet to see one06:46
nixternalunless they filed it against something other that kubuntu-docs06:46
mhbubuntu-docs is probably unaffected06:49
nixternalit is, i just checked it..it is kubuntu-docs only06:49
mhbI'll report it then06:52
mhbnixternal: bug 7338406:56
UbugtuMalone bug 73384 in kubuntu-docs "Localized Kubuntu documents missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/7338406:56
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nixternal84mb diff to add translations ;)07:51
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mhbnixternal: now thats quite a diff07:57
nixternalheh, no doubt07:57
nixternalbrings the total package size to around 111mb07:57
nixternalthere are a lot of things that shouldn't have been added originally, but im not going to delete them..this will only add translations07:58
mhbnixternal: wouldnt it be easier to let the i18nalized docs depend on language-support ?07:58
nixternalit is going to suck uploading this debdiff though07:58
nixternalyou would think so...ubuntu does it this was as well..their package is just a tad bit smaller than our07:58
nixternals07:58
pinheirohttp://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=path5213tt8.png08:25
pinheirobig sizes avilable :)08:25
nixternali like it!08:41
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joe3kpinheiro: this is great, where does one get the big sizes? :)10:37
pinheirome :)10:37
joe3kpinheiro: don't you think about posting to kde-look?10:37
pinheirowhat size do you want?10:37
joe3k1280x1024 :)10:38
pinheironaaaaaa i think i will make some prety pictures for kde.org site10:38
pinheirojust a sec10:43
pinheiroww.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=177415610:47
pinheirohttp://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=177415610:48
joe3kpinheiro: wow, thanks a lot! :)10:48
pinheirothink i will do one for me haswell10:49
joe3kpinheiro: the original is a svg?10:49
pinheiroyes ofcourse10:49
joe3ki'm interested when the kde wallpaper stuff will handle correctly all svgs10:50
joe3know there is a bunch of svgs you see correctly in konq but not when used as wallpaper10:51
pinheiroi dont think that is that interesting10:51
nixternalpinheiro: why not put them on the ubuntu art site?10:51
pinheirolike an walpeper made for an 1024x760 can be like one made for 1900x120010:51
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