[05:25] <imbrandon> fdoving: kdepim uploaded
[05:27] <imbrandon> lengau: i wouldent split them as it is a high traffic page UNLESS you make it very very clear there is a new Kubuntu one on the old page
[05:39] <lengau> @imbrandon: Thanks for the suggestion.
[05:54] <nixternal> man, i got kubuntu edgy 64 to boot on 1 out of 10 laptops today while shopping..and the one it booted on, was way to expensive and out of stock
[05:54] <Hobbsee> ouch. 
[05:54] <Hobbsee> why so bad?
[05:54] <nixternal> i don't know
[05:54] <Hobbsee> nixternal: did they lock up, or what?
[05:54] <nixternal> ubuntu was the same way
[05:55] <nixternal> most of them did
[05:55] <nixternal> a lot spit out kernel panics and rebooted
[05:55] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[05:55] <nixternal> im sure you could fix around it
[05:56] <Hobbsee> true - there's a fair bit of new hardware out there that isnt supported in dapper, at least.
[05:56] <nixternal> i know one of the laptops is on the laptop list as good with no notes no how it was made good..because it was bad in the store
[05:56] <nixternal> but then again..i wouldn't use livecd to install anyways
[05:56] <Hobbsee> ouch
[05:57] <Hobbsee> true
[05:57] <nixternal> i might hold off on a 64bit lappy anyways
[05:58] <Hobbsee> smart
[05:58] <nixternal> i might look at a core2 duo instead
[05:58] <imbrandon> core2 duo's are 64bit silly
[05:58] <nixternal> derrr
[05:58] <Hobbsee> nixternal: i wouldnt expect 64 bit laptops to be running 64bit OS' for a while, by default
[05:58] <nixternal> not a core2 duo
[05:58] <nixternal> haha
[05:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: that's what i was going to say
[05:58] <nixternal> a regular centrionM
[05:58] <Hobbsee> you want the core duos?  they're still 32 bit
[05:59] <nixternal> centrino M
[05:59] <nixternal> true
[05:59] <nixternal> but i am cheap
[05:59] <imbrandon> next month i'm buying me a nice new work station , dual amdx2 64's :)
[05:59] <nixternal> the turion64 booted kubuntu 64 perfectly..everything worked from the get go
[05:59] <imbrandon> dual proc, dual core :)
[05:59] <nixternal> good price imbrandon ?
[06:00] <imbrandon> nixternal: it will cost about 2k when i get done configuring it
[06:00] <nixternal> are you building or buy a built one
[06:00] <nixternal> holy jesus..im not forking out 2k anytime soon
[06:00] <imbrandon> 2k is cheap for a top of the line 4 proc system :)
[06:01] <nixternal> i didn't see the "dual" part to that
[06:01] <nixternal> so yes that is good
[06:01] <nixternal> how are the macbooks with kubuntu?
[06:01] <nixternal> i can get them all day super cheap through college
[06:01] <imbrandon> perfect :)
[06:01] <nixternal> oooh...well then
[06:01] <imbrandon> they are core2 duo's :)
[06:02] <nixternal> they seem to cheap to be core2
[06:02] <imbrandon> they might be core duo if they are the old ones
[06:02] <nixternal> im betting on that actually
[06:02] <imbrandon> but all of them are core or core2
[06:03] <imbrandon> either way, why run 64bit os on the, you should have took a 32bit cd :)
[06:03] <imbrandon> if you want it for a desktop system
[06:04] <nixternal> well, i wanted them to mess with packaging on 64bit
[06:04] <nixternal> really the reason behind it
[06:04] <imbrandon> real osx , from the official dvd ;)
[06:05] <nixternal> i have tried messing with osx...i just can't get used to it
[06:05] <imbrandon> when i got done, i was like , man this cant be this easy, but it was
[06:05] <imbrandon> nixternal: if you can use gnome you can use osx :)
[06:05] <imbrandon> they are almost identical in the way they work
[06:05] <nixternal> i can't use gnome...or i won't use gnome..one of the 2 ;)
[06:06] <imbrandon> lol
[06:06] <nixternal> hey, someone fix tomboy so i can have the icon in kicker
[06:06] <Hobbsee> why?  i uploaded basket yesterday
[06:06] <nixternal> heh
[06:07] <nixternal> because tomboy rocks and is a hell of lot easier than basket
[06:07] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:09] <nixternal> i almost bought me a lightscribe dvd burner tonight..now that i have seen people got them working in ubuntu
[06:16] <imbrandon> i bought one about a year ago
[06:17] <nixternal> have you been lightscribing with kubuntu the entire time?
[06:17] <imbrandon> no i dont think i have ever made a light scribe disk in linux
[06:18] <nixternal> someone just did it recently...it is in the forums somewhere
[06:18] <nixternal> they made a kubuntu disc with it
[06:18] <imbrandon> yea in dapper only
[06:18] <nixternal> ahh
[06:18] <nixternal> imbrandon: what mobo does the dual x2s?
[06:19] <imbrandon> and dual amd64 board
[06:19] <imbrandon> any*
[06:19] <nixternal> i have not followed hardware in so long
[06:20] <Mez> Riddell, ping
[06:20] <imbrandon> Mez: he is on holiday this week
[06:25] <imbrandon> Mez: need something uploaded ? or just wanna talk to him ?
[06:25] <Mez> imbrandon, wondering if he knows who amantia is
[06:26] <imbrandon> ahh'
[06:26] <imbrandon> i dont :(
[06:26] <Mez> its weird
[06:26] <Mez> I think they're trying to hurt katapult
[06:26] <imbrandon> howso ?
 KDE commit: amantia * r607815 katapult/trunk/extragear/utils/katapult/common/katapultcatalog.cpp:
 KDE commit: amantia * r607817 katapult/trunk/extragear/utils/katapult/plugins/ (2 files in 2 dirs): go away from the repository!
[06:26] <Mez> logs like that worry me
[06:26] <nixternal> whoa
[06:27] <imbrandon> ahh
[06:27] <imbrandon> no idea
[06:27] <imbrandon> you can probably ask kde ev
[06:27] <Mez> http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/KDE/katapult/
[06:28] <Mez> ah
[06:28] <Mez> Makefile.in's
[06:28] <Mez> and
[06:28] <Mez> er 
[06:28] <Mez> katapultkatalog.cpp
[06:30] <Mez> er ...
[06:30] <Mez> thats one of the most crucial files ...
[06:30] <nixternal> Andras Mantia
[06:31] <Hobbsee> Mez: you can revert it?
[06:31] <Hobbsee> Mez: and remove their access?
[06:31] <nixternal> Mez: http://people.kde.nl/andras.html
[06:31] <Mez> yeah - I can revert
[06:31] <Mez> not revoke
[06:32] <imbrandon> cent remove the access, if you have kde svn access you havce access to the whole thing
[06:32] <imbrandon> kinda like a MOTU can upload any package
[06:32] <Mez> no I dont have access to the admin stuff
[06:32] <Mez> trust me
[06:32] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:32] <imbrandon> Mez: make sure it was malitious
[06:32] <Mez> and areas are sectioned out
[06:32] <Mez> imbrandon, I've emailed them
[06:32] <imbrandon> they might not just have put a meaning full log
[06:32] <Mez> but it's a bit scary
[06:32] <Mez> they didnt put ANY " log for the bit tht seems malicius
[06:33] <Mez> ok, the logs around ti dont seem so
[06:34] <Mez> but still
[06:34] <Mez> a bit suspcicious ne?
[06:35] <Mez> hmmles
[06:36] <Mez> ah not delteed
[06:36] <Mez> just changed
[06:37] <Mez> 607815    amantia #include <string>
[11:07] <fdoving> imbrandon: thanks for uploading :)
[11:09] <imbrandon> fdoving: np, sorry took so long, just had so much going on
[11:10] <fdoving> not a problem. I've got reports it syncs nicely, next in line is having an SRU for it.
[11:10] <fdoving> that's gona be interessting.. it's a rather huge diff.
[11:53] <fdoving> imbrandon: ops in here? request from seveas, /mode #kubuntu-devel +cnt
[11:54] <Seveas> (I don't know if -deve was +t before the attack)
[11:54] <robotgeek> i have access to #kubuntu-offtopic, how do iset :)
[11:54] <fdoving> robotgeek: /mode #kubuntu-offtopic +cnt
[11:55] <fdoving> Seveas: +cn is good anyway.
[11:55] <Seveas> yeah
[11:55] <robotgeek> thanks
[11:57] <fdoving> imbrandon: drop the t then, +cn only.
[11:57] <fdoving> anyway.. food bbl.
[11:58] <fdoving> cd
[12:15] <Hobbsee>  /mode #kubuntu-devel +cnt
[12:32] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: when will you stop arguing and messing with beryl, and fix kde/qt?  i want g-p-m working again please.
[12:33] <imbrandon> lol
[12:33] <imbrandon> whats wrong with g-p-m ?
[12:35] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: on feisty?  try running it
[12:35] <imbrandon> my feisty install is a desktop
[12:36] <kwwii> imbrandon: just wait till the next X update and then you will wish that you had gpm :p
[12:36] <imbrandon> heh
[12:36] <imbrandon> moins kwwii
[12:36] <kwwii> howdy imbrandon
[12:38] <Hobbsee> kwwii: why?
[12:39] <Hobbsee> gsarah@sarah:~$ guidance-power-manager
[12:39] <Hobbsee> sarah@sarah:~$ Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:39] <Hobbsee>   File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py", line 39, in ?
[12:39] <Hobbsee>     from qt import QLabel
[12:39] <Hobbsee> ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ^
[12:39] <kwwii> Hobbsee: just making a joke about the dapper X update...if you have to start working on the console, you want a mouse, I think
[12:39] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: gpm is console mouse support too iirc
[12:39] <imbrandon> :)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> kwwii: ahhh.  true
[12:39] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: old school :)
[12:39] <Hobbsee> i think i'ts also gnome power manager
[12:40] <Hobbsee> however, in this context it
[12:40] <Hobbsee> 's guidance-power-manager
[01:11] <wsk`> hi, i want to make a public mirror of kubuntu. can anyone point me to a reference? didn't find anything on the webpage
[01:13] <fdoving> wsk`: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Archive/Mirroring
[01:13] <apokryphos> wsk`: have a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/mirror
[01:14] <apokryphos> or there 8)
[01:17] <wsk`> tnx :)
[01:20] <wsk`> but isn't this ubuntu? the mirror list of kubuntu seems to be different from ubuntu
[01:21] <wsk`> somehow i find this very confusing :_)
[01:27] <fdoving> wsk`: contact mirror@ubuntu.com, they will explain how it's done.
[01:28] <fdoving> that's actually mirrors@ubuntu.co
[01:28] <fdoving> m
[01:28] <fdoving> asdgfasdf.
[01:28] <fdoving> mirrors@ubuntu.com
[01:28] <fdoving> there.. finally.
[01:30] <imbrandon> there actualy #ubuntu-mirrors too
[01:31] <Jucato> hehe :)
[01:34] <wsk`> *g* ok. thank you all
[01:35] <Jucato> hm.. maybe he was referring to the kubuntu.org repositories?
[01:36] <apokryphos> they really only have addons, but yeah, perhaps he didn't know that we share repositories
[02:41] <Jucato> do we also file documentation typos as bugs on LP?
[02:41] <robotgeek> Jucato: yes
[02:42] <Jucato> just found 2 in the packaging guide while reading yesterday :)
[02:42] <robotgeek> heh
[02:46] <joe3k> anyone can tell me whether mvo shows up on irc?
[02:46] <Hobbsee>  /whois mvo
[02:46] <joe3k> is not
[02:47] <Hobbsee> joe3k: he's not here at the moment
[02:47] <apokryphos> from time to time
[02:47] <apokryphos> email is probably better
[02:47] <joe3k> or anyone else feeling to be apt-index-watcher guru? :)
[02:47] <joe3k> ok
[02:52] <gnomefreak> normally  during the weekdays
[02:53] <danimo> moin
[03:01] <Jucato> is that the proper way to file typos? in bulk?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> as long as its in the same section/doc page i guess
[03:03] <gnomefreak> ha i finally found someone with same apt problem as me :)
[03:04] <Jucato> hm... the 2 I found are on the same page, different section... if I see others on another page, I'll probably file separately
[03:10] <Jucato> wow! you're running xen? O.O
[03:11] <Hobbsee> trying to
[03:11] <Hobbsee> where are all the username settings and all that kept?
[03:12] <Jucato> is it true that you could have 3D hardware acceleration in Xen (you can't in VMWare...)
[03:13] <Hobbsee> no idea...
[03:13] <Jucato> oh
[03:14] <je4d> Jucato: you might be able to on one guest box, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't do any multiplexing of hw accel
[03:15] <Jucato> ah
[03:15] <je4d> I use it on a headless box, it's good for that
[03:15] <Jucato> aah
[03:42] <mhb> hi all
[03:43] <Jucato> hi mhb
[03:43] <mhb> you probably know the reports about the state of the battery/AC that appear in Kubuntu (if you have a laptop)
[03:44] <mhb> but does anybody know whether they are translatable and if so, where?
[03:52] <mhb> hi pinheiro
[03:52] <pinheiro> hi mhb
[03:53] <pinheiro> carlos sent you that email?
[03:57] <mhb> pinheiro: yes, I'm just busy at the weekend
[03:57] <pinheiro> no problem
[03:57] <pinheiro> just to be sure things are in the right path
[05:12] <pinheiro> back
[06:27] <nixternal> good morning (almost noon) :)
[06:27] <mhb> hi
[06:27] <nixternal> hey there mhb
[06:27] <mhb> nixternal: actually I wanted to talk to you
[06:27] <nixternal> oh no
[06:27] <nixternal> what did i do now ;p
[06:29] <mhb> nixternal: IIRC Hobbsee suggested you might be the guy who knows why the Kubuntu docs in Edgy are not translated (at least in Czech; the K-D-G was translated in time but it's not present in Kubuntu Edgy)
[06:30] <nixternal> hrmm...that would be up to the czech translators on that one...i can look and see if there are newer updates and see about getting that fixed though
[06:30] <nixternal> dunno why it wouldn't be in there
[06:30] <mhb> nixternal: well I am the one that translated that
[06:30] <mhb> nixternal: before the deadline
[06:30] <nixternal> let me check locally..i forgot i can just look at my local repo
[06:30] <nixternal> ahh hehe..lemme look really quick
[06:32] <mhb> nixternal: thanks
[06:33] <nixternal> it is translated on help.ubuntu.com just not in your local installation
[06:33] <nixternal> that is an oddball right there
[06:33] <nixternal> let me grab the source
[06:39] <nixternal> interesting...all i see in the kubuntu docs is C/ which is english..i don't see "any" translations at all
[06:41] <mhb> nixternal: but it seems they are nor in the language-packs because even though I have all the langpacks, no translation is available
[06:44] <nixternal> i wonder why they didn't get put in the docs package
[06:44] <nixternal> i just checked to see how dapper was setup, and they are in there, but not in edgy
[06:45] <mhb> nixternal: yes, it's basically a regression
[06:45] <nixternal> can you file a bug, or do you want me to?
[06:45] <nixternal> i will see about creating a patch for it, but i don't know the process of getting it uploaded and who could/would do it
[06:45] <nixternal> well, creating a fixed package is nothing actually
[06:45] <mhb> I'll check if there isn't any, after all it probably affects everyone
[06:46] <mhb> (bugreport)
[06:46] <nixternal> i can tell you that there isn't any..i have yet to see one
[06:46] <nixternal> unless they filed it against something other that kubuntu-docs
[06:49] <mhb> ubuntu-docs is probably unaffected
[06:49] <nixternal> it is, i just checked it..it is kubuntu-docs only
[06:52] <mhb> I'll report it then
[06:56] <mhb> nixternal: bug 73384
[06:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 73384 in kubuntu-docs "Localized Kubuntu documents missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/73384
[07:51] <nixternal> 84mb diff to add translations ;)
[07:57] <mhb> nixternal: now thats quite a diff
[07:57] <nixternal> heh, no doubt
[07:57] <nixternal> brings the total package size to around 111mb
[07:58] <nixternal> there are a lot of things that shouldn't have been added originally, but im not going to delete them..this will only add translations
[07:58] <mhb> nixternal: wouldnt it be easier to let the i18nalized docs depend on language-support ?
[07:58] <nixternal> it is going to suck uploading this debdiff though
[07:58] <nixternal> you would think so...ubuntu does it this was as well..their package is just a tad bit smaller than our
[07:58] <nixternal> s
[08:25] <pinheiro> http://img111.imageshack.us/my.php?image=path5213tt8.png
[08:25] <pinheiro> big sizes avilable :)
[08:41] <nixternal> i like it!
[10:37] <joe3k> pinheiro: this is great, where does one get the big sizes? :)
[10:37] <pinheiro> me :)
[10:37] <joe3k> pinheiro: don't you think about posting to kde-look?
[10:37] <pinheiro> what size do you want?
[10:38] <joe3k> 1280x1024 :)
[10:38] <pinheiro> naaaaaa i think i will make some prety pictures for kde.org site
[10:43] <pinheiro> just a sec
[10:47] <pinheiro> ww.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=1774156
[10:48] <pinheiro> http://www.imagehosting.us/index.php?action=show&ident=1774156
[10:48] <joe3k> pinheiro: wow, thanks a lot! :)
[10:49] <pinheiro> think i will do one for me haswell
[10:49] <joe3k> pinheiro: the original is a svg?
[10:49] <pinheiro> yes ofcourse
[10:50] <joe3k> i'm interested when the kde wallpaper stuff will handle correctly all svgs
[10:51] <joe3k> now there is a bunch of svgs you see correctly in konq but not when used as wallpaper
[10:51] <pinheiro> i dont think that is that interesting
[10:51] <nixternal> pinheiro: why not put them on the ubuntu art site?
[10:51] <pinheiro> like an walpeper made for an 1024x760 can be like one made for 1900x1200