[12:12] <ticless2> it says: /lib/libpam.so.0.79: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[12:13] <_adaptr> ticless2: and ls -l still shows it to be a block device ?
[12:13] <ticless2> well yes but thats the symlink: libpam.so.0: setuid sticky block special (218/44)
[12:14] <ticless2> file /lib/libpam.so.0 says: libpam.so.0: setuid sticky block special (218/44)
[12:14] <intelikey> i don't know what's been causing it.....
[12:14] <logicalbomb> intelikey
[12:14] <logicalbomb> any advice on synchro or smartphone OS swap
[12:14] <_adaptr> ticless2: so it'
[12:14] <_adaptr> s no longer a symlink, then ?
[12:14] <intelikey> logicalbomb no networking is not me
[12:15] <ticless2> I don't think so
[12:16] <logicalbomb> !smartphone
[12:16] <ubotu> A guide to syncing smartphones can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=86302
[12:16] <ticless2> _adaptr: it diffently not a symlink anymore
[12:17] <intelikey> 6.6 /lib/libpam.so.0 is a link
[12:17] <ticless2> ldconfig complains about it too: ldconfig: /lib/libpam.so.0 is not a symbolic link
[12:17] <logicalbomb> wow
[12:17] <_adaptr> ticless2: if you google it: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/device-list/devices.txt
[12:17] <logicalbomb> syncing smartphone is way beyond my user skills
[12:17] <intelikey> you could move it to /lib/libpam.so.0.real and symlink that
[12:18] <_adaptr> ticless2: you get this: 		218 = /dev/kchuid	Inter-process chuid control
[12:18] <logicalbomb> that is a lot of work
[12:18] <_adaptr> ticless2: looks like either a very rogue process doing this, or somebidy's been and gone cracked your box - this is PAM we're talking about!
[12:19] <_adaptr> ticless2: I'd try to unlink it first, and re-make the symlink:
[12:19] <ticless2> well I did undock my laptop and did do a couples of reboots so I guess it's my own fault
[12:20] <intelikey> _adaptr hackers ?     no !
[12:20] <_adaptr> ticless2: unlink /lib/libpam.so.0 && ln -s /lib/libpam.so.0.79 /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:20] <ticless2> unlink: cannot unlink `/lib/libpam.so.0': Operation not permitted
[12:20] <ticless2> I am root
[12:21] <_adaptr> ticless2: did you run lsof against libpam.so.0 ?
[12:21] <intelikey> ? /lib/libpam.so.0.79  that's 6.6's version  does edgy use the same ?
[12:21] <tony_> anyone know how to create a service menu to convert a file with ffmpeg on right-click?
[12:21] <ticless2> _adaptr: no I did not manually run lsof
[12:21] <ticless2> how can I force it to unlink?
[12:22] <voidmage> I want my printer to print the pages in reverse order (so when it's done page 1 is on top instead of the last page). How can i do that?
[12:22] <_adaptr> ticless2: well, it won't run itself
[12:22] <ticless2> oki
[12:22] <_adaptr> ticless2: do you understand what unlink does, or what lsof means ?
[12:22] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, what are you trying to do?
[12:22] <ticless2> I don't know Isof
[12:22] <tony_> use a ffmpeg command to convert an flv to mmpeg
[12:23] <intelikey> lsof = list open file
[12:23] <_adaptr> ticless2: then please just run it, okay ? you need more info before you can determine your next step
[12:23] <ticless2> and normally I only unlink symlinks, not something like this 3,7GB device
[12:23] <tony_> it seems easy enough but i haven't the knowledge but the patience to learn but i don't even know where to start
[12:24] <ticless2> lsof /lib/libpam.so.0 gives me nothing
[12:25] <voidmage> I want my printer to print the pages in reverse order (so when it's done page 1 is on top instead of the last page). How can i do that?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  want to know how i did it? :P
[12:25] <Dr_willis> voidmage,  i installex xpp and selected reverse order and let it save that as the default.
[12:25] <voidmage> Dr_willis:  sure?
[12:25] <_adaptr> ticless2: that's because lsof does not take parameters; run "lsof | grep libpam"
[12:26] <Dr_willis> THEN i noticed that theres an opton in Konqueror to do that.
[12:26] <Dr_willis> but not in firefox.
[12:26] <intelikey> doesn't cups have that option anyway ?
[12:26] <ticless2> yeah I just figured :) but still nothing
[12:26] <Dr_willis> i dident see it in the cups configs.
[12:26] <voidmage> anyone know where it is in openoffice at least?
[12:26] <intelikey> i'm pretty sure i have seen it....  in 6.6
[12:27] <intelikey> voidmage click to print something and when it asks for confirmation config that puppy
[12:27] <_adaptr> ticless2: have you rebooted the box ? (runlevel 6 should do as well)
[12:28] <voidmage> ah, i found it in openoffice at least now
[12:28] <ticless2> yes many times, I'm in runlevel 1 i guess, because the only way I can login is to boot in recovery mode and login as root
[12:28] <voidmage> pretty well hidden
[12:29] <intelikey> yeah it's not on the desktop on first boot....
[12:29] <ticless2> if I continue to runlevel 2 it crashes with the "cannot open shared object file..." and wont even let me login
[12:29] <_adaptr> ticless2: you mean single user mode - which effectively bypasses PAM :)
[12:29] <ticless2> yes
[12:30] <intelikey> runlevel 1 == single user mode
[12:30] <ticless2> I guess it the only option I have right now :)
[12:30] <Pupeno> Hello.
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, i had a website to do that
[12:30] <Admiral_Chicago> err that showed me how to do that
[12:30] <_adaptr> okay then, next step: try to forcibly remove the block device.. just hope it isn't actually a partition of some sort.. still weird that that would be recreated every bootup
[12:30] <d03boy> Wireless Assistant seems to be doing a decent job of connecting me to wireless networks but I was wondering if there was something more of a service type of thing that I can use so I dont have to run this program every single time
[12:31] <Pupeno> I have just restored a backup of ~/.kde/share/app/kmail and ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc because I am in a new installation and kmail doesn't start. I run it from the Konsole and nothing happens. 10 minutes and nothing happened. Any ideas ?
[12:31] <intelikey> ticless2 if /lib/libpam.so.0.79 exists i'd rm /lib/libpam.so.0 && ln -s /lib/libpam.so.0.79 /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:31] <ticless2> _adaptr: I dont get I either...how do I remove the block device
[12:31] <intelikey> there is no way there should be a 3g socket there...
[12:31] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, try this ffmpg -i foo.flv -ab 64 -b 44100 -s 320x 240 foo.mpg
[12:31] <ticless2> intelikey: well I tried that but I cant do rm /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> make sure to cd into the right directory
[12:32] <intelikey> ticless2 why not ?
[12:32] <Admiral_Chicago> ffmpeg*
[12:32] <ticless2> rm: cannot remove `libpam.so.0': Operation not permitted
[12:32] <intelikey> as root ?
[12:32] <ticless2> yes
[12:32] <_adaptr> ticless2: rm -f
[12:32] <_adaptr> force it
[12:32] <intelikey> chattr -i
[12:32] <ticless2> still not permitted
[12:33] <_adaptr> oh, and that :)
[12:33] <_adaptr> it may be immutable, yes
[12:33] <ticless2> hmm how do I nuke it then?
[12:33] <intelikey> chattr -i
[12:33] <intelikey> chattr -i /lib/libpam.so.0 ; rm /lib/libpam.so.0
[12:34] <intelikey> if that works symlink it. as above
[12:34] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[12:34] <_adaptr> and then try ldconfig, of course - if that works now, change backto runlevel 2
[12:35] <ticless2> intelikey: stille not permittet
[12:35] <ticless2> damit I need more force :)
[12:35] <intelikey> we're given all she's got cappen'
[12:36] <_adaptr> ticless2: do you have some sort of LiveCD, like Knoppix, or DSL ?
[12:36] <intelikey> shunt the dylithium crystles...
[12:36] <_adaptr> www.damnsmalllinux.org, it's about 50MB
[12:36] <intelikey> and go to warp
[12:37] <_adaptr> intelikey: really not helping
[12:37] <ticless2> well I can download the kubuntu livecd right?
[12:37] <_adaptr> ticless2: of course, but it'll take longer
[12:37] <_adaptr> that it will be the same version as your b0rked system might help, though
[12:37] <intelikey> ticless2 knoppix is better for that sort of thing   imo
[12:37] <ticless2> what is the bare minimum?
[12:37] <tony_> i'm back, my pc crashed
[12:38] <_adaptr> ticless2: you need ext3 tools of sufficient version
[12:38] <tony_> again, anyone know how to convert a command into a service menu?
[12:38] <intelikey> bare minimim about two floppies
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> tony_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[12:38] <_adaptr> and toms rootboot should have those
[12:38] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the best i can do
[12:38] <tony_> thanks
[12:38] <_adaptr> ONE floppy :)
[12:38] <ticless2> ohh nice
[12:38] <ticless2> where to find it?
[12:38] <_adaptr> erm.. google ?
[12:38] <ticless2> nice
[12:38] <ticless2> 2 sec :)
[12:39] <_adaptr> you do know about this fancy new search engine, right ?
[12:39] <intelikey> _adaptr sorry i can't call a busybox shell bare minimum   but that's just me.
[12:39] <_adaptr> it's like, they index like, 100 web pages or so.. really, really kool stuff
[12:39] <Dr_willis> you mean Moogle?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:39] <Dr_willis> or was it boogle?
[12:39] <_adaptr> intelikey: sure, but why do you say 2 floppies, then
[12:39] <ticless2> well I heard about it but I only give it a couple of years
[12:39] <_adaptr> intelikey: I can boot a kernel with FS tools inside 500KB
[12:40] <_adaptr> if we define "bare minimum" for the task at hand.. he'll need 3 commands max
[12:40] <intelikey> _adaptr cause the only packaged boot disk with a bash shell and basic file utils i have found is 2 floppies  and upward
[12:41] <_adaptr> none of which would be needed here, strictly speaking
[12:41] <_adaptr> you'd need A shell, and 2 or 3 file utils
[12:41] <intelikey> yean but i call that a hack not a minimal system.
[12:41] <_adaptr> nobody said anything about a minimal *system* :)
[12:42] <_adaptr> it's not like he needs to play nethack with it, or run emacs
[12:42] <intelikey> he might
[12:42] <intelikey> :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> emacs is an os. :)
[12:42] <_adaptr> wahahaha good one
[12:43] <intelikey> and granted a glorified grub prompt (less than 60k) could do what is needed there....
[12:44] <Dr_willis> BusyBoxLinux
[12:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> 1 command with 10000000000000 links/names
[12:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis been there :)
[12:44] <_adaptr> I think you mean 1 executablke with a hundred uses...
[12:44] <_adaptr> it's rather more than 1 command
[12:45] <intelikey> one app
[12:45] <Dr_willis> one .exe :)
[12:45] <intelikey> yeah but it's not .exe  :)
[12:45] <ticless2> _adaptr: creating bootable cd right now so what then?
[12:45] <d03boy> anyone know where the config file for synergy is?
[12:45] <_adaptr> ticless2: boot it :)
[12:45] <intelikey> and rm that file
[12:46] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  you make one.
[12:46] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  and when ya run the command you tell it wat one to use
[12:46] <_adaptr> ticless2: then mount your root partition and find the /lib directory
[12:46] <intelikey> then symlink it and reboot
[12:46] <_adaptr> ticless2: and blast that block device to shiny oblivion
[12:46] <_adaptr> intelikey: don't anticipate my responses !
[12:46] <_adaptr> but yeah, what he said
[12:46] <Dr_willis> d03boy,  look in ------->  /usr/share/doc/synergy/doc   for details
[12:47] <intelikey> had nothing to do with you _adaptr  i assure you.
[12:47] <ticless2> sounds great
[12:48] <_adaptr> it is, rather.. I have never yet had a system break beyond salvaging under Linux...
[12:48] <_adaptr> now try this trick on WindBlowz
[12:48] <intelikey> ticless2 a mount   command right now should tell you where the device for  / is
[12:48] <_adaptr> first thing, it requires you to *log in* to the on-disk system.. which you can't, if your SAM is b0rked
[12:48] <intelikey> so you can mount it in the live cd under /mnt   or something
[12:49] <d03boy> i think you can adaptr
[12:49] <_adaptr> ticless2: do an fdisk -l to find your root partition, then mount that partition on /mnt/something
[12:50] <intelikey> something being superflutious but what ever.
[12:51] <_adaptr> not really... Ubuntu mounts stuff under /mnt by default, so likely the directory will NOT be empty, even on tghe LiveCD
[12:51] <_adaptr> to be safe, I'd mkdir /mnt/test first, then mount on that
[12:51] <intelikey> ubuntu doesnt' use /mnt at all
[12:52] <intelikey> it uses /media
[12:52] <_adaptr> of course you can mount over whatever is already under /mnt, but that's hardly clean
[12:53] <_adaptr> really ? IIRC, the LiveCD maps your current HD partitions to /mnt
[12:53] <intelikey>  /media
[12:53] <_adaptr> the way Knoppix does: /mnt/hda1 etc.
[12:53] <brett> Hello all
[12:53] <_adaptr> I wouldn't know, I just sue /mnt to bring up my NFS shares
[12:53] <ticless2> crap
[12:53] <_adaptr> erm, that would be use
[12:54] <_adaptr> crap ?
[12:54] <_adaptr> that does not sound happy
[12:54] <ticless2> toms boot image is not a usable image
[12:54] <brett> I want to do a little programming...what is the best channel for help with c programming.... in perticular editing open source kubuntu games?
[12:54] <_adaptr> ticless2: what do you mean? what did you do with it ?
[12:54] <ticless2> I have no floppydrive so need a bootable cd
[12:54] <_adaptr> ticless2: then you can't really use toms, can you ?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> there are cdrom bersions of tomsboot stuff.
[12:55] <ticless2> downloaded the tomsrtbt-2.0.103.ElTorito.288.img and tried to burn it
[12:55] <intelikey> brett ##C if you know c  if not  i'm not sure there is a "best channel for help with c programming"    because you'd be asking someone to teach you C
[12:56] <brett> intelikey: no, i know how to program fine... the problems i am having are related to compiling other peoples code
[12:56] <_adaptr> brett: I guess you would start by.. dunno, learning to program ?
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> brett, #kdegames maybe
[12:56] <_adaptr> brett: there are plenty of resources on the Intarweb to get started
[12:56] <brett> _adaptr: i know how to program fine
[12:56] <intelikey> brett yeah prolly ##C then.
[12:56] <brett> thanks
[12:57] <ticless2> argh dooh
[12:57] <ticless2> toms img is not at burnable image its a floppy image to create a cd bootable image from
[12:58] <intelikey> brett they will expect "smart questions"  do your home work first.
[12:58] <brett> intelikey: how about how do you compile someones source code? is that too stupid?
[12:58] <intelikey> prolly
[12:58] <_adaptr> if you don't know that, then what do you program on ? Windows ?
[12:59] <intelikey> brett google "smart questions"
[12:59] <d03boy> many people do program on windows
[12:59] <Sanne> brett: usually, you download the source and look at the readme in the archive.
[12:59] <d03boy> its not exactly uncommon
[12:59] <brett> Sanne: there isnt a readme
[12:59] <_adaptr> d03boy: not saying it, merely hinting that it'll take him some work to get up to speed on *nix programming in that case
[01:00] <intelikey> brett source dirs often contain a file or two in uppercase  they are doc's  read them.
[01:00] <Sanne> brett: that's unusual. What program is it? Is there a webpage with instrucions maybe?
[01:00] <_adaptr> coding is coding, but the APIs are *wildly* different
[01:01] <brett> Sanne: Konquest
[01:01] <intelikey> API -vs- IDE
[01:01] <brett> intelikey: the only uppercase file is called FILES... and that doesnt read well
[01:01] <_adaptr> brett: is it an RPM you're looking into ?
[01:02] <Sanne> brett: here's some general info for starters, though it may not exactly apply to every program: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[01:02] <brett> _adaptr: no
[01:02] <_adaptr> FILES files usually just list the contents of the package
[01:03] <d03boy> bah, i cant figure out how to set up this synergy client
[01:03] <d03boy> the server is set up fine
[01:03] <Sanne> brett: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdegames/konquest/compilation.html
[01:03] <d03boy> oh, it works... haha. no config needed
[01:03] <brett> Sanne: that looks useful
[01:04] <_adaptr> d03boy: http://www.deanspot.org/content/view/71/46/, 3 sec google
[01:04] <d03boy> what is google?
[01:04] <_adaptr> "no documentation" indeed
[01:04] <d03boy> is that like metacrawler?
[01:04] <Sanne> brett: yeah, and as I see the link I gave before that kinda applies as background knowledge, so you may wnat to read it also.
[01:04] <_adaptr> nooo, it's more like YooHoo, only more better
[01:05] <d03boy> oh how nice
[01:05] <brett> Sanne: those commands do not work
[01:05] <intelikey> heep mo' betta' n' good !
[01:05] <_adaptr> lots an' lots, yah
[01:05] <Sanne> brett: what's the error? (if it's too much text, please use the pastebin)
[01:06] <brett> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:06] <intelikey> make
[01:06] <Sanne> brett: did you get the sources from cvs?
[01:07] <intelikey> konquest in cvs ?
[01:07] <intelikey> is konquest still active ?
[01:07] <Sanne> intelikey: just checking, I don't know konquest at all
[01:07] <brett> cvs?
[01:07] <brett> what is that
[01:08] <intelikey> it hasn't changed in 4 years  afaik
[01:08] <SlimG> is there a command that outputs the current bios version on the mainboard?
[01:08] <intelikey> SlimG lshw might have it
[01:08] <intelikey> key word 'might'
[01:09] <Sanne> brett: cvs is a repository where developers work on the code, so you would get development snapshots from cvs. But if you don't know, you didn't get it from cvs ;)
[01:09] <brett> Sanne: i dont remeber where i got it
[01:09] <intelikey> SlimG dmesg might have it   you can pipe either through grep and/or less
[01:10] <Sanne> brett: that's a pity, because that would have been my next question, so I could have a look.
[01:10] <brett> Sanne: yeah i was searching for a while and kinda got lucky
[01:11] <SlimG> intelikey: thanx alot! i'll have a look
[01:11] <Sanne> brett: there's another option if you want to conmpile konquest yourself. since it is in the ubuntu repositories, you could apt-get the source package and compile a proper ubuntu package out of it.
[01:12] <brett> Sanne: thats a good idea
[01:12] <Sanne> brett: or, you could get the original source tar.gz without Ubuntu patches and try to compile that
[01:13] <Sanne> brett: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/konquest
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: i found a way to compile all the kde games at once rather then just konquest
[01:13] <Sanne> brett: that's also nice, if you want that.
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: hmm
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: ok i type ./configure
[01:13] <Cuddles_Laptop> evening all.
[01:13] <brett> Sanne: it ran
[01:14] <Sanne> brett: cool :)
[01:14] <BluesKaj> how does one get back to the original default KDE desktop appearance or "look" ?
[01:14] <DralaFi> I bypassed the initrd, now I don't get the media actions window when I insert a USB storage device. I had a look at the initrd and don't think I missed anything, I copied bits of udev script to real script on the real rootfs. Udev, dbus and hal all work. I just can't get KDE to detect a new media device. Can anyone please lend a hand?
[01:14] <brett> Sanne: then i typed make and i got an error
[01:14] <brett> Sanne: make install didn't work either
[01:14] <Sanne> brett: which one? (-> pastebin)
[01:14] <brett> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[01:14] <shulman> how do I share a folder in edgy eft? When I try sharing the folder publicly, my windows machines keep getting prompted to log in
[01:15] <Cuddles_Laptop> quick question. is there any way to have my wireless automatically connect on startup, rather than waiting for me to use the wireless assistant?
[01:15] <Sanne> brett: hmmm, don't know what that means, sorry. Does anybody else know?
[01:15] <DralaFi> Sanne, brett: sounds like there's no makefile in your current directory
[01:15] <Sanne> brett: oh, do you have build-essential installed?
[01:16] <Cuddles_Laptop> brett, make sure you have a makefile.
[01:16] <bomber> hows it going folks?
[01:16] <bomber> i got a problem
[01:16] <brett> Sanne: yeah i installed build essentials...and there is several make files
[01:16] <Sanne> brett: then I don't knwo further, sorry.
[01:16] <Cuddles_Laptop> brett, is there a specific file called ''Makefile''
[01:17] <DralaFi> make -f makefile_that_you_want
[01:17] <brett> Cuddles_Laptop: no... there are files called makefile but they all have extensions
[01:17] <bomber> i just installed an nvidia card on dapper drake and the nvidia drivers but im not getting the option for the 1280x1024 that my monitor can do
[01:17] <[Nige] > anyone having problems with edgy with X not starting automatically at boot?
[01:17] <Cuddles_Laptop> ah, there's the problem then.
[01:17] <DralaFi> makefile.unix   makefile.dos ?
[01:18] <_adaptr> brett: then it has to be autoconfigged first.. they're called Makefile.in, and such, yes ?
[01:18] <DralaFi> make -f makefile.unix
[01:18] <BluesKaj> I'll repeat myself : how does one get back to the original default KDE desktop appearance or "look" ....any ideas ?
[01:18] <shulman> bomber: have you tried adding the resoltion to your xorg.conf ?
[01:18] <Launch-L> hello all.. first time here
[01:18] <DralaFi> BluesKaj, press defaults button
[01:18] <intelikey> brett ffr no make *  command will work without a makefile    afaik anyway.
[01:18] <ticless2> _adaptr: here goes if you never hear from me again it's because I have nuked my hole laptop :)
[01:18] <bomber> yes and no difference
[01:18] <_adaptr> ticless2: good luck :)
[01:18] <BluesKaj> there aren't any in appearances
[01:19] <brett> _adaptr: yes
[01:19] <brett> _adaptr: .in and a few others
[01:19] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: welcome :)
[01:19] <Launchpad-Lap> Guys i have a question, is there any difference between kubuntu and ubunutu.. beside the kde desktop
[01:19] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[01:19] <_adaptr> brett: these are the input files for the autoconf/automake system, which is a very smart way of building software on a wide variety of *nix-0like systems
[01:19] <brett> _adaptr: ok...
[01:19] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: no, no other real difference
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: there is also a file called .configure, which is the master configuration file/shell script
[01:20] <shulman> bomber: so you only get the options for the lower resolutions? Could you put your xorg.conf file up on pastebin?
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: you have to *run* this, it will create all the makefiles and sundry auxilliary stuff
[01:20] <ryanakca> how do I set kmenu to only show KDE/Qt apps?
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: make sure you are in the directory, then run "./configure"
[01:20] <brett> _adaptr: ok run what?
[01:20] <brett> _adaptr: i did...that ran fine
[01:20] <Launchpad-Lap> ok now.. do yall recomend any books to read to learn kubuntu?  I took a linux class on fedora in college.. but i forgot most of it and lost my book.. trying to relearn
[01:20] <intelikey> _adaptr i thought he said ./configure  file not found
[01:20] <_adaptr> brett: then you should have a Makefile
[01:21] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, let me get you a link
[01:21] <brett> _adaptr: or actually there was an error
[01:21] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[01:21] <brett> _adaptr: checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:21] <Cuddles_Laptop> folks, is there any way to have my wireless automatically connect on startup, rather than waiting for me to use the wireless assistant?
[01:21] <_adaptr> brett: get your distro's X sources :)
[01:21] <brett> _adaptr: huh
[01:21] <Launchpad-Lap> hehe sorry for all these questions.. trying to reframe my self in linux from windwos
[01:21] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: there's a fine desktop guide in your menu under help, and there are also lots of web ressources.
[01:22] <_adaptr> or rather, the includes for the libraries, this should be much smaller
[01:22] <intelikey> !dev
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Launchpad-Lap> sanne im printting the help as we speak
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
[01:22] <intelikey> !headers
[01:22] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[01:22] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: :)
[01:22] <_adaptr> !sources
[01:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:22] <Launchpad-Lap> ty admiral
[01:22] <Admiral_Chicago> its also available online
[01:22] <bomber> shulman: yes .. lemme try this 1 more time then i'll brb and i'll paste it to pastebin
[01:22] <Launchpad-Lap> that book?
[01:22] <bomber> thanks for the help btw
[01:22] <bomber> brb
[01:22] <Sanne> Launchpad-Lap: since you're new, you might be also interested in this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek
[01:23] <intelikey> !rutebook
[01:23] <Cuddles_Laptop> anyone?
[01:23] <ubotu> rutebook: Linux: Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition, an online book. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (edgy), package size 5468 kB, installed size 8264 kB
[01:23] <brett> _adaptr: how do i do that?
[01:23] <_adaptr> brett: well, you could do it with Synaptic
[01:24] <_adaptr> that's certainly the easiest way if you';ve never seen sources before
[01:24] <intelikey> !wifi | Cuddles_Laptop
[01:24] <ubotu> Cuddles_Laptop: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:24] <brett> _adaptr: ok i need to install Synaptic?
[01:24] <Launchpad-Lap> ok now i have a problem which i do not know how to fix on kubuntu
[01:24] <Cuddles_Laptop> thanks intelikey
[01:24] <_adaptr> brett: no, you already have synaptic - it is ubuntu's package management system
[01:24] <Simian__> I don't understand why I can't see the site that i'm hosting from my own network but I can see it from outside my network
[01:24] <bomber> shulman: ok all set now thanks... i forgot to change the driver from "nv" to "nvidia" after i edited the xorg.conf
[01:25] <Launchpad-Lap> when i goto adept, i type in my password, and get "Conversation with SU failed"
[01:25] <Launchpad-Lap> what does that mean
[01:25] <brett> _adaptr: ok so i run that and do what exactly... i do not really understad what it is i need to do
[01:25] <shulman> bomber: glad you got it working!
[01:25] <_adaptr> brett: the configure script has informed you that you are missing the interface headers for X, which any X-based game will need to compile
[01:25] <intelikey> brett if jucato comes in shortly you should get with him about this  he can walk you through several shortcuts/tricks/and tweeks
[01:26] <_adaptr> brett: so you need to pay good attention to the exact message from configure, and try to find a package that provides the system with those files
[01:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, it means you're SU (super user [not root]  ) failed
[01:26] <_adaptr> brett: the easiest way would be to add the relevant sources to the package system and search for the package you need
[01:26] <Simian__> I want to associate the website that i host with my localhost or internal Ip
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> how would i fix that
[01:27] <brett> _adaptr: ok... thanks
[01:27] <brett> intelikey: thanks i will look for him
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure really
[01:27] <bomber> nothing fancy just a geforce 6600 gt which is a nice upgrade from my ati card.. 9800 le
[01:27] <shulman> how do I share a folder in edgy eft? When I try sharing the folder publicly, my windows machines keep getting prompted to log into the share
[01:27] <_adaptr> Simian__: if it is hosted on your local machine then it is already associated with localhost
[01:27] <bomber> 69$ at best buy
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> hmm after i finish printing i will reinstall
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> err restart
[01:27] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe that site will help
[01:27] <intelikey> "(super user [not root]  )"   Admiral_Chicago   what you smoking ?
[01:27] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[01:27] <DralaFi> Anyone here run kubuntu without an initrd?
[01:28] <Simian__> _adaptr: but when I type in my site address i am pointed to my router setup
[01:28] <_adaptr> Simian__: your "site address" ?
[01:28] <_adaptr> what is that ?
[01:29] <steveire> I'm having trouble using the kpdf kpart. Any experience on that here?
[01:30] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, only a little Opium...not really
[01:30] <DralaFi> steveire, try in #kde as well
[01:30] <Simian__> _adaptr: ok if i enter the website into a browser on a local machine it points to my router but if i enter my website address into a browser on an external machine (not on my network) it works fine
[01:30] <_adaptr> Simian__: define "my website"
[01:31] <Simian__> _adaptr: web server
[01:31] <_adaptr> Simian__: do you mean an IP address or a URL ?
[01:31] <Simian__> _adaptr: yes URL
[01:32] <_adaptr> Simian__: a public URL, for a publicly-available web site ?
[01:32] <Simian__> _adaptr: yes
[01:33] <|nightrid3r|> Simian__: whats the url
[01:33] <_adaptr> Simian__: what happens when you resolve that web site ?
[01:34] <ticless> _adaptr: well I was still not permittet to delete the libpam.so.0 file
[01:35] <Simian__> _adaptr: on a local machine it just points to my router's setup page, but if you or anyone else (external) enter the url into a browser it works fine
[01:35] <Simian__> benward.dyndns.org
[01:35] <_adaptr> ticless: more evidence that it is a real file system
[01:35] <ticless> but after mounting my root partition, the libpam.so.0 was only 34kb or so, only the libpam_misc.so.0 was still 4gb
[01:36] <ticless> _adaptr: ohh does not sound nice to me :)
[01:36] <Launchpad-Lap> is there anyway i can share my printer on kubuntu and have it showing in windows xp on my laptop?
[01:37] <_adaptr> ticless: those device numbers still look weird though... can you try to peek into it ?
[01:37] <_adaptr> ticless: okay, then you need to do all of them
[01:38] <ticless> _adaptr: what device numbers?
[01:38] <_adaptr> ticless: same trick with all files that seem absurdly large
[01:38] <_adaptr> ticless: never mind, geek stuff :)
[01:38] <ticless> _adaptr: cause I really don't know what that 4gb is pointing at
[01:38] <_adaptr> ticless: look for anything that's more tan a few megs, and do the same rm && ln -s trick with them
[01:39] <_adaptr> ticless: could be a pile of memory, real or vitrual, or a 4gB file, or an actual partition.. no way to know which if it's buggered
[01:39] <ticless> _adaptr: well yes I looked through the list of libs and all others beside libpam.so0 and libpam_misc.so.0 looked fine in size and everything
[01:40] <_adaptr> okay, then do that one and you should be good
[01:40] <ticless> _adaptr: well I know for sure that I dont have a partition with the size 4gb
[01:40] <intelikey> ticless did you    lsattr /lib/libpam.so.0  ?
[01:41] <ticless> intelikey: argh no I forgot
[01:41] <LocoMan> can anyone help me?... my taskbar dissapeared...
[01:41] <K`zan> Hi folks, I'm trying to figure out which headers I want to install the nvidia drivers, from uname -a I get this: Linux witch2u 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Fri Oct 13 15:34:39 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux, which headers do I need (This is an amd64 CPU here).  TIA
[01:41] <ticless> but I tried all rm -f and chattr
[01:41] <intelikey> ticless lsattr  and  chattr   man them and use them.
[01:42] <ticless> intelikey: okay will try, do you think they can do the trick?
[01:42] <K`zan> heasers -2.6.17-10 generic or amd64-generic ?
[01:42] <SlimG> in what file is the kernel modules listed that should start on boot?
[01:42] <ticless> I really what to get rid of that device...
[01:42] <_nightrid3r_> K`zan: the headers that match your kernel
[01:42] <intelikey> if that's not the reason you couldn't rm it.  then you should be getting disk I/O errors galore.
[01:42] <K`zan> _nightrid3r_: so just ignore the amd64 stuff?
[01:43] <_nightrid3r_> K`zan: yup
[01:43] <K`zan> _nightrid3r_: and go with the match from uname -a ?
[01:43] <K`zan> _nightrid3r_: Thanks!
[01:43] <mike_> Is there a remote desktop application ti Kubuntu that works with rdp and VNC. Krdc does not work
[01:43] <ticless> when I tried the chattr I got the error msg saying it could not read beyond device..
[01:43] <intelikey> !vnc
[01:43] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[01:44] <ticless> _adaptr: any more sugestions before I boot again?
[01:44] <_adaptr> ticless: I don't know - have you deleted the 4gb monsters yet ?
[01:44] <ticless> _adaptr: no cause it keeps saying Im not permittet
[01:45] <mike_> remote windows does not use VNC
[01:45] <_adaptr> ticless: and you are still booted from a rescue CD ?
[01:45] <intelikey> ticless lsattr it now.
[01:45] <_adaptr> indeed
[01:45] <ticless> _adaptr: yes
[01:45] <sorush20> digikam crashes all the time when I'm organising rotating my image
[01:45] <_adaptr> mike_: is that a question ?
[01:45] <ticless> intelikey: okay I will try the lsattr
[01:45] <ticless> later
[01:46] <mike_> _adaptr: Do you know how to connect to a windows desktop? In Ubuntu you just type the adress
[01:46] <_adaptr> mike_: RDP and VNC are two vastly different protocols - they make no sense when used in combination
[01:46] <_adaptr> mike_: connect from where ? with what ?
[01:47] <mike_> _adaptr: Connect to a RDP windows remote desktop, win 2k3 server. Using Kubuntu
[01:47] <LocoMan> can anyone help me get my taskbar back?... it dissapeared for some reason...
[01:47] <mike_> _adaptr: In Ubuntu it works just fine
[01:47] <mike_> _adaptr: Cant connect with the default Kubuntu client
[01:47] <intelikey> LocoMan [alt] +[f2]    kicker
[01:48] <_adaptr> mike_: use rdesktop, it works fine
[01:48] <LocoMan> doesn't do anything
[01:49] <binary2k2> LocoMan: try alt-F2, type in "killall kicker && kicker" then click run
[01:50] <LocoMan> nothing.... 8^(
[01:50] <intelikey> LocoMan or alt+f2   doesnt do anything    try    [ctrl] +[alt] +[f2]    login;   kicker --display :0     [alt] +[f7] 
[01:51] <mildner> ggood evening
[01:51] <mike_> _adaptr: Installed it though Adept, Just one stupid Q, where did the program go? Newly installed programs do net get added to the menybar?
[01:52] <LocoMan> it says "Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169 - Major opcode: 147 - Minor opcode: 3 - Resource id: 0x0 Failed to open device
[01:52] <_adaptr> mike_: rdesktop is not a GUI program; man rdesktop
[01:52] <LocoMan> it says that twice whe I try that...
[01:52] <_adaptr> If memory serves, it's something like "rdesktop -h windows.whatever"
[01:52] <LocoMan> wait.. I tried it again and it's back.. 8^)
[01:53] <LocoMan> thanks.. 8^)
[01:53] <binary2k2> LocoMan: That's a normal error, nothing to do with kicker
[01:53] <intelikey> LocoMan np
[01:53] <mike_> _adaptr: Aaa ok, thx man
[01:54] <mike_> _adaptr: Works lovely! Want a kiss? :)
[01:55] <intelikey> binary2k2 "normal error"   hehhe yeah wacom.
[01:55] <_adaptr> noooooooo
[01:55] <_adaptr> anyhoo, that's what most of those GUI implementations are based on
[01:55] <_adaptr> they just wrap a box around rdesktop
[01:55] <mike_> I see
[01:56] <intelikey> why does *buntu setup wacom devices in the default xorg.conf   even when no device exists   that's sloppy admining imo.
[01:56] <DralaFi> I bypassed the initrd, now I don't get the media actions window when I insert a USB storage device. I had a look at the initrd and don't think I missed anything, I copied bits of udev script to real script on the real rootfs. Udev, dbus and hal all work. I just can't get KDE to detect a new media device. Can anyone please lend a hand?
[01:58] <RadiantFire> intelikey: probably because there is no good hotplug way of doing it
[01:59] <intelikey> DralaFi boot with the initramfs.img  dmesg > list1   boot without it and  dmesg > file2     compare  file1 file2
[02:00] <intelikey> RadiantFire but couldn't the setup just ask a simple Q on that ?
[02:00] <RadiantFire> yeah, but then you have to ship with multiple versions of xorg.conf. Trust me, its not as easy as it seems
[02:00] <intelikey> last time i checked most people knew if they had a wacom device or not...
[02:00] <DralaFi> intelikey, I doubt there will be any relevant difference, and it's a different kernel, so diff will probably be very large :)
[02:01] <DralaFi> kde isn't even showing new devices in media:/
[02:01] <intelikey> DralaFi ok
[02:02] <intelikey> so your kernel may not support something that is needed
[02:02] <DralaFi> been working on this for hours, not sure what more to do :o
[02:02] <RadiantFire> DralaFi: do you get anything otu of lshal?
[02:02] <RadiantFire> or have you tried manually starting hal/dbus
[02:02] <DralaFi> intelikey, possible, though unlikely. I'll recheck my config.
[02:02] <intelikey> you didn't like my advice.....
[02:03] <intelikey> i'd check the two dmesg outputs to see what is different...
[02:03] <RadiantFire> DralaFi: go to system settings->advanced->service manager and check the kded media manager
[02:03] <DralaFi> RadiantFire, yes I get output from lshal. plug device in && lshal | grep Lexar  = output. unplug device && lshal | grep Lexar  = no output. so that's all working. Also tried starting manually hal, dbus, udev. those bits work.
[02:03] <RadiantFire> see if its running/if you can start it
[02:03] <ticless> _adaptr: well everytime I try to lsattr or chattr -i /lib/libpam.so.0 I get the error: no such device while reading flags on file
[02:03] <intelikey> RadiantFire to catch you up he said it works with the factory kernel
[02:04] <RadiantFire> DralaFi: yeah, chck the service manager in system settings
[02:04] <ticless> _adaptr: and attempt to access beyond end of device
[02:04] <ticless> _adaptr: no matter what I try Im not permittet to remove that dam thing
[02:04] <DralaFi> intelikey, no I didn't like your advice ;) but that's ok. I know you're trying to help and you do have some merit in that it's possible that a newer kernel is misconfigured. :)
[02:05] <DralaFi> intelikey, exactly :)
[02:06] <intelikey> it's not only  possible  it's likely...
[02:06] <DralaFi> I don't have service manager. System services and storage media, yes.
[02:06] <DralaFi> intelikey, noinitrd in grub disables initrd, yes?
[02:08] <intelikey> DralaFi not listing an initrd on the kernel disables it   i don't know about a global in grub.... i don't use grub it's too weak for this setup
[02:08] <DralaFi> lilo?
[02:08] <intelikey> yeah
[02:09] <intelikey> partitionless
[02:09] <DralaFi> lilo is cool :)
[02:09] <DralaFi> kernel panic, VFS can't find rootfs, which is to be expected
[02:10] <intelikey> yeah the factory kernels have no disk or fs support built in
[02:10] <DralaFi> which is one reason i don;t like initrd
[02:11] <DralaFi> all my setups are simple and don't need anything special.
[02:12] <intelikey> i have a stand-alone kernel or two that i've compiled for this box    can boot from a floppy if needed.   can't do that with a default kernel.
[02:12] <DralaFi> I run slackware on this box :)
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> what is "slackware"
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> ?
[02:13] <intelikey> why you in #kubunt ?   just like the company ?
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> sorry im just getting into linux
[02:13] <DralaFi> ok, anything else you want me to get from the factory kernel?
[02:13] <intelikey> Launchpad-Lap another distro
[02:13] <bubu1uk> Launchpad-Lap: dont worry, lol
[02:13] <Launchpad-Lap> ooo
[02:13] <DralaFi> intelikey, because this is a kubuntu issue
[02:14] <intelikey> on another box ?
[02:14] <DralaFi> laptop
[02:14] <DralaFi> desktop is slack
[02:14] <intelikey> k      "that seemed to be one of those least possable information puzzels"
[02:14] <Launchpad-Lap> i would run linux on my laptop but itunes no workie with it
[02:15] <intelikey> !itunes
[02:15] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[02:15] <DralaFi> I've been asking questions in here, #ubuntu, #hal, #kde and #dbus, with varying success :|
[02:15] <Launchpad-Lap> its not the player
[02:15] <Launchpad-Lap> i have songs that i bought off the itunes store
[02:15] <Launchpad-Lap> which require itunes to play
[02:15] <intelikey> 10-4 on varying success
[02:15] <DralaFi> ahh, iTunes vendor lock-in
[02:16] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[02:16] <Launchpad-Lap> back to tb
[02:16] <intelikey> so you'll be making that same mistake in the future ?
[02:17] <DralaFi> intelikey, you know, diff -u on the two dmesg's won't be the prettyiest output
[02:17] <intelikey> "always buy propritary, so you can pay through the nose; TWICE!"
[02:17] <mike_> Anyone wanna help me get some sound?
[02:17] <K`zan> Just installed the nvidia drivers here and it wants "X.org SDK/Development" stuff, search doesn't return anything on that, anyone have an idea what that might be?  TIA.
[02:18] <intelikey> DralaFi i'd prolly open both in a editor
[02:18] <intelikey> !sound | mike_
[02:18] <ubotu> mike_: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:18] <Sanne> DralaFi: xxdiff is nice
[02:18] <DralaFi> intelikey, but it will be a mess given that the kenrels are quite different
[02:18] <mike_> intelikey: Thx
[02:19] <intelikey> DralaFi yeah if they are "very" different it will.
[02:19] <DralaFi> heh, why doesn't kubuntu come with all the -devel stuff automatically, like slackware? :p
[02:19] <intelikey> like "print gobs of debugging stuff"   hehhe
[02:20] <DralaFi> intelikey, yeah i also seem to have printk() timing info in every single dmesg line :D fun fun
[02:20] <intelikey> DralaFi it designed for the linux newbe  the M$ user that wants a taste of linux for the first time.
[02:20] <DralaFi> true
[02:21] <intelikey> yeah maybe pipe through cut and remove that.
[02:21] <DralaFi> but make it into a package that is required and don't tell users what it is...
[02:21] <intelikey>  | cut -d' ' -f3       maybe
[02:21] <intelikey> errr    | cut -d' ' -f3-
[02:22] <DralaFi> I suck at cut
[02:23] <intelikey> cut -d'delimiting.char' -f'field/s.to.print'    -f'-3' prints upto 4th delimitor   -f'3-' prints from third onward
[02:24] <intelikey> -f'2-4'  should be selfexplaniroty
[02:24] <K`zan> Just installed the nvidia drivers here and it wants "X.org SDK/Development" stuff, search doesn't return anything on that, anyone have an idea what that might be?  TIA.sync
[02:24] <DralaFi> hmm, ok let me try something
[02:25] <sorush20> my computer freezes on running batch conversion with kim plugin and on thumbnail generation of a new folder with images., what can I do?
[02:25] <intelikey> break.  food.    back soon.
[02:25] <marcel__> hello there
[02:26] <sorush20> hi
[02:26] <marcel__> i'm looking software to watch svf file on my kde... downloaded files flash... can anybody help me/?
[02:26] <ticless> _adaptr: hephey now I'm back for good :)
[02:26] <Sanne> K`zan: why don't you just install the nvidia drivers from ubuntu repositories?
[02:27] <ticless> intelikey: thanks for the help
[02:27] <ticless> intelikey: it turned out that after a long series of manually running e2fsck the wierd blocks could be cleared
[02:28] <sorush20> you can just use konqueror to run flash marcel__
[02:28] <marcel__> there is something like FLVPlayer for Kubuntu?
[02:28] <DralaFi> marcel__, MPlayer
[02:28] <noiesmo> marcel__, I use mplayer for flv files
[02:28] <ticless> _adaptr: thx I now good to go...cya
[02:28] <marcel__> my MPlayer doesn't play downloaded flash files:/
[02:29] <sorush20> how do I trouble shoot why my computer freezes on trying to build a thumbnail etc?
[02:29] <naught101> anyone ever have problems with their web browser loking up when loading sites? happens to me with firefox and Konqueror, and doesn't happen on other computers on same router
[02:29] <naught101> ^locking
[02:29] <sorush20> can I run memtest on a booted computer?
[02:30] <DralaFi> i'll carry on with the diagnosis tomorrow
[02:30] <DralaFi> off to sleep
[02:31] <DralaFi> nite nite and thanks, intelikey
[02:31] <marcel__> MPlayer play only sound without video:/ flv files...
[02:31] <naught101> marcel: you can transcode flvs to mpeg with ffmpeg
[02:32] <mike_> Hmm... i don't think i have a hardware problem with sound. I just need to select the right Card, how do i do that?
[02:32] <sorush20> !mdadm
[02:32] <ubotu> mdadm: tool to administer Linux MD device arrays (software RAID). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.1-6ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 148 kB, installed size 452 kB
[02:32] <marcel__> :) yeah ,, i'm looking some player for files like on other system, what is the plasaure first convert then watch??
[02:33] <sorush20> I have 106 processes running and a lot of memory....
[02:33] <mike_> I have two cards how do select witch the system should use?
[02:33] <mike_> 2 sound cards
[02:34] <sorush20> I really don't know why my computer keeps crashing and freezing on batch resize and thumbnail generation..
[02:34] <sorush20> how do I fix this problem?
[02:37] <sorush20>  how can I makesure why my computer keeps crashing?
[02:37] <sorush20> and find what is making it crash...
[02:42] <K`zan> sanne: I was running the xorg nvidia drivers, left a lot to be desired for the things I do :-).
[02:43] <K`zan> sanne: with what I got out of the real nvidia drivers, my destop is no longer pixelated.
[02:45] <K`zan> Wonder why all my konsoles are root now, no matter who launches them ?!?
[02:50] <K`zan> Anyone else here getting a root console when launched as a regular user?
[02:51] <unix_infidel> K`zan: nope.
[02:51] <unix_infidel> are you prefixing $TERM with sudo?
[02:51] <mike_> How do i set the defaul sound card? I have 2 sound cards.
[02:52] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Interesting I am getting that on gentoo and ubuntu, just all of a sudden I can't get a user konsole.  Gentoo I might have done something to, but I haven't touched ubuntu for several weeks now.  Odd.
[02:52] <Launchpad-Lap> can you make kubuntu a file/print/domain server?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Ok, I'm running the live Edgy CD since i chose the wrong login desktop by mistake ...obviously one that doesn't exist ...how do i tell the HDD version to login to KDE ?
[02:53] <unix_infidel> K`zan: your launching Konsole from KDE kicker?
[02:53] <mike_> !sound
[02:53] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:53] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Anywhere - menu or kicker
[02:54] <unix_infidel> K`zan: try right clicking>run>aterm
[02:54] <unix_infidel> or xterm whatever.
[02:54] <K`zan> unix_infidel: no aterm, but xterm spawns as a user terminal, I can use that!
[02:55] <unix_infidel> K`zan: might wanna make sure you arent launching KDE as root.
[02:55] <unix_infidel> eg not doing sudo startx or something...that's a terrible thing to do.
[02:56] <K`zan> unix_infidel: kde lauched from /etc/conf.d/local.start on gentoo (something broken there) but from /etc/init.d on ubuntu (how it comes out of the box).
[02:56] <unix_infidel> /etc/init.d...hmm?
[02:56] <unix_infidel> maybe i'm not familiar with the new edgy init system.
[02:56] <K`zan> unix_infidel: working at phasing out gentoo and going with ubuntu (even though I don't like the name :-).
[02:57] <K`zan> /etc/init.d/kdm start (no idea how it is done in ubuntu automatically).
[02:57] <unix_infidel> ahh, you're using KDM, no idea there.
[02:58] <unix_infidel> I basically just boot from console and use X to pretty much spawn $TERMS and firefox.
[02:58] <K`zan> unix_infidel: No problem, thanks though.  Never a dull moment with all this :-)!
[02:59] <unix_infidel> K`zan: that's the idea of an OS.  It's supposed to be dull.  Aka do what you want when you want it.
[02:59] <mike_> Hmm how do i change so i can use sound card 2 insteed of 1!
[02:59] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel: looks like I have a similar problem , altho i can't get to my login page after 'startx'
[02:59] <K`zan> unix_infidel: It does that once I get it all tuned up the way I want it.  Unlike wincrap where I get to practice the install routine rather endlessly.
[03:00] <unix_infidel> K`zan: that's unforunate, I know many people who use windows without many if any problems.
[03:00] <mike_> aplay --list-devices, /proc/asound/cards, lspci -v  i my other sound card! How do i make it default?
[03:00] <K`zan> unix_infidel: I drive anything hard, wincrap works best when used least I have discovered.
[03:00] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: login page?
[03:01] <unix_infidel> K`zan: Like i said, that's unfortunate.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel: yes I made a wrong choice upon login and now i can't get there
[03:01] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: you mean KDM or console login?
[03:01] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Normally I end up doing a wipe-reinstall every 6 months with wincrap, it is ok for web browsing, email and some office apps, but when you start really hitting it hard, it collapses.
[03:01] <BluesKaj> I was rebooting to kde
[03:02] <unix_infidel> K`zan: give me a for instance?
[03:02] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: what prompt are you at right now?
[03:02] <K`zan> unix_infidel: Heavy graphics, video editing/compiling, serious CAD/CAM stuff.
[03:03] <K`zan> unix_infidel: even flight sim stuff will toast it over time.
[03:03] <BluesKaj> unix_infidel:  I'm running the live cd ...startx won't log me in
[03:03] <unix_infidel> K`zan: I do most GPU intensive stuff with OS X.  As far as CAD goes, I don't do it really.
[03:03] <BluesKaj> i guess i could use irssi at the prompt
[03:03] <K`zan> unix_infidel: I'm not a real fan of apple, but for graphics and video it does hold up FAR better.
[03:05] <BluesKaj> can some one help me or are you gonna discuss the meryits of various pcs ?
[03:05] <marvelous> hola
[03:05] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: if you want back into kde with startx
[03:05] <marvelous> hay alguien por aqui que me pueda ayudar?
[03:05] <K`zan> Discuss merits of various things :-).
[03:05] <unix_infidel> touch ~/.xinitrc and put `startkde` in there.
[03:06] <unix_infidel> minus the quotes
[03:06] <BluesKaj> it ain't funny K`zan, I'm really stuck here
[03:06] <unix_infidel> erm, exec startkde
[03:06] <K`zan> BluesKaj: I'm new (again to deb/ubuntu) so I am learning it again at this point...
[03:07] <BluesKaj> ok but startx goes to a black screen with just a mouse pointer
[03:07] <K`zan> BluesKaj: You sure you got the right xorg driver?  What video card and what is in the device section of xorg.conf?
[03:08] <K`zan> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:08] <BluesKaj> ok, gonna try to boot into the hdd
[03:08] <unix_infidel> BluesKaj: erf...you're on a live cd and cant get into X?
[03:08] <unix_infidel> wtf, i sure hope he wasn't chrooted.
[03:08] <K`zan> unix_infidel: I think he was, that was rather odd.  Gateway system ;-) LOL!
[03:09] <unix_infidel> K`zan: nah, i meant i hope wasnt trying to backup/restore while chrooted and trying to init X
[03:10] <marvelous> I cant play mp3's on my amarok can anybody help me?
[03:10] <zibrah3ed> make sure the xine engine is enabled
[03:12] <mike_> Coman, how do i change sound card!!! Please someone. I've tryed guides, but i can see both my soundcards and there installed
[03:13] <marvelous> where can I see the xine engine thing?
[03:13] <Werdnum> hey
[03:13] <zibrah3ed> settings --> configure amarok --> engine
[03:13] <mike_> How do i change soundcard?
[03:13] <zibrah3ed> if you don't have it use adept or apt-get
[03:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | mike_
[03:14] <ubotu> mike_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:14] <zibrah3ed> mike do you have 2 cards installed now?
[03:14] <mike_> Yes
[03:15] <zibrah3ed> onboard and a pci or both pci
[03:15] <josh_> how do i get bearshare to run in wine
[03:15] <mike_> Yes, and i can see them everywhere
[03:15] <josh_> i havent restarted the computer but when i click it nothing hapens
[03:15] <josh_> should i restart my computer?
[03:15] <mike_> I just dont know how to make soundcard 2 default
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, not neccesary
[03:15] <Admiral_Chicago> you're on linux
[03:16] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, any reason to run bearshare?
[03:16] <josh_> limewire and amsn doesnt work
[03:16] <josh_> i mean
[03:16] <josh_> amule
[03:16] <zibrah3ed> mike in kmenu  system settings --> sound system --> set default
[03:17] <pierreth> hello, how do I change the shorcut to select the next tab?
[03:17] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, have you tried frostwire?
[03:18] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, in Konqueror?
[03:18] <josh_> ya
[03:18] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: no, everywhere
[03:18] <josh_> frostwire wont connect
[03:18] <josh_> everyone has that problem
[03:18] <josh_> i like bearshare anyways
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> !p2p
[03:19] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[03:19] <Admiral_Chicago> josh_, you can do cd to the directory it's installed in wine Path.exe
[03:19] <josh_> oh
[03:19] <josh_> it made a shortcut on my desktop
[03:20] <mike_> zibrah3ed: I can't set default sound card there, just ALSA/OSS and MIDI
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i don't use wine but I've read the documentation
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> !wine | josh_
[03:20] <ubotu> josh_: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:20] <Admiral_Chicago> have you seen it
[03:21] <josh_> oh
[03:22] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: you have no idea?
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, yes give me a sec
[03:22] <Admiral_Chicago>  "input actions" in Kcontrol
[03:23] <marvelous> i've checked my xine engine and it's enabled but still cant reproduce mp3's
[03:23] <zibrah3ed> hmmm
[03:23] <josh_> well
[03:23] <josh_> insead of cding the exe
[03:23] <zibrah3ed> have you restarted amarok
[03:23] <josh_> i just ran it from the link
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, try that, i think it's global shortcuts
[03:24] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: I am there but I don't see, where exactly?
[03:24] <marvelous> yes now I have
[03:24] <marvelous> and still no change
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i wish i was on KDE to guide you
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> pierreth, i'm sorry but I won't be on my box until tomorrow afternoon at best
[03:25] <zibrah3ed> well when i last installed edgy it was a pain for me too
[03:26] <zibrah3ed> it seemd that i had to restart amarok then finally mp3's worked
[03:26] <pierreth> Admiral_Chicago: OK, I will search, thank you
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[03:26] <marvelous> well I'll try again
[03:26] <Launchpad-Lap> grr must learn how to get fuse on and ntfs-3g
[03:26] <marvelous> thanks 4 all
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, you are aware that those programs are expriemental
[03:27] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[03:27] <zibrah3ed> I didn't fix your problem nothing to thank me for
[03:27] <Launchpad-Lap> is edgy another distro?
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, no but another release
[03:28] <zibrah3ed> lol edgy eft kubuntu 6.10
[03:28] <Launchpad-Lap> ooo
[03:28] <Launchpad-Lap> how can i find the release im runing?
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> !release | Launchpad-Lap
[03:28] <ubotu> Launchpad-Lap: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, where did you get a CD?
[03:28] <Launchpad-Lap> shipit
[03:29] <Launchpad-Lap> i have 6.06 LTS
[03:29] <Launchpad-Lap> dapper dan?
[03:29] <zibrah3ed> dapper drake
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yes
[03:29] <Launchpad-Lap> is there anyway to get 6.10 onto 6.06?
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yes
[03:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !update | Launchpad-Lap
[03:29] <ubotu> Launchpad-Lap: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:30] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[03:30] <zibrah3ed> do a fresh install don't apt-get
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i disagree
[03:30] <zibrah3ed> i had nothing but probs
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i've not had any problems updating at all
[03:30] <josh_> bearshare said i need wmp10 to use bearshare
[03:31] <josh_> then it brought me to the internet explorer page
[03:31] <josh_> lol
[03:31] <zibrah3ed> well adm it works for some but not all
[03:31] <zibrah3ed> fresh install always works
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i've updated several computers, the only ones that had broken updates where boxes that used automatix/backport/easyubuntu
[03:32] <zibrah3ed> lol well i'm guilty
[03:35] <calcmandan> I have a USB2 flash drive, and all my USB ports are usb2.  However, transfer rates are about 1mbps.  Anyone know how I can tweak the system to utilize usb2.0 speeds?
[03:37] <nickv111> Hey, all. I have libdvdread3 installed, but kaffeine still says, "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable."
[03:38] <nickv111> mplayer dvd:// says, "dvd successfully opened", but then just sits there, attempting to read my DVD.
[03:38] <zibrah3ed> libdvdnav
[03:38] <zibrah3ed> ?
[03:38] <nickv111> Maybe.
[03:38] <nickv111> I'm installing it now.
[03:39] <nickv111> No. Didn't do anything.
[03:39] <nickv111> Um, it's interesting that it would say that encrypted DVD support is unavailable when I have libdvdread3 installed
[03:40] <zibrah3ed> i'm stumped
[03:40] <Launchpad-Lap> crap
[03:41] <BluesKaj> I'm using the live cd to chat cuz i can't get to the boot prompt or the kde desktop login page ... my edgy partition shows up fine in QParted si I'm pretty sure I can eventually access the OS . I just need some help getting there from here (live CD)
[03:44] <tony_> i made a service menu, can someone help me since i can't get it to come up just on one file type?
[03:45] <tony_> anyone know anything about service menus?
[03:46] <intelikey> my dpkg is hosed again !
[03:46] <mike_> Solved my problem setting default soundcard. All guides i followed are all related to hardware problems. Looks like you can't chose sound card in KDE via GUI
[03:46] <intelikey> dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `postfix' in statoverride file <--- why does dpkg depend on postfix in the passwd file ?
[03:47] <intelikey> mike_ it would be an alsa setting
[03:48] <mike_> intelikey: Problem 2 sounds card installed. But you can't select witch one to use.
[03:48] <mike_> sudo asoundconf list
[03:48] <mike_> sudo asoundconf set-default-card <CARD>
[03:48] <mike_> Reboot.
[03:48] <intelikey> mike_ there ya go.
[03:49] <BluesKaj> intelikey: was exiting and i chose the wrong desktop login , now i can't get into the kde login page at all, justa black scrn with the mouse pointer ...using the live cd cuz i can't even get to the boot prompt
[03:49] <mike_> intelikey: Yeah... no GUI in DE to change default...
[03:49] <od-debar> i have kubuntu dapper and windows xp 2 machines
[03:49] <od-debar> i want to setup my network
[03:49] <od-debar> can anyone tell me step by step
[03:49] <od-debar> what do  i need to config and do it
[03:50] <intelikey> BluesKaj sounds like twm   try left click the desktop for a menu
[03:50] <BluesKaj> intelikey: but i can see the edgy partition in QParted ok so i know it must be accessible but how?
[03:51] <zibrah3ed> ctrl + alt + backspace
[03:52] <BluesKaj> intelikey: , you've got to be kidding , that simple ?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> ok , I'll tryit
[03:53] <intelikey> "was exiting and i chose the wrong desktop login"   i'm thinking   if that's what you did.   yeah.   but you are also saying now  "i can't even get to the boot prompt"    which means it might have been hybernate that you eslected ???
[03:53] <zibrah3ed> he logged off
[03:54] <intelikey> does suspend or hibernate either one give a mouse cursor ?
[03:55] <zibrah3ed> dont' think so
[03:55] <intelikey> having only one lappy (i486) i've never messed with either....
[03:56] <zibrah3ed> lol better than the emachine i'm on now
[03:57] <Launchpad-Lap> does anyone here play that atlantic board game?
[03:57] <intelikey> never have yet Launchpad-Lap is it any good ?
[03:57] <Launchpad-Lap> dunno lol
[03:57] <zibrah3ed> once
[03:57] <intelikey> :)
[03:57] <Launchpad-Lap> im updateing to 6.10
[03:58] <intelikey> tisk tisk
[03:58] <intelikey> !upgrade | issues
[03:58] <ubotu> issues: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:59] <intelikey> !|
[03:59] <intelikey> that ought'a make the bot scratch it's head
[03:59] <od-debar> hey how to setup
[03:59] <od-debar> php my admin on kubuntu
[04:00] <intelikey> !php
[04:00] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:01] <intelikey> probably not that....
[04:01] <od-debar> can u tell me step by step
[04:01] <od-debar> ?
[04:01] <intelikey> !i
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <intelikey> sssh  bot be quiet.  that's not for you.
[04:01] <intelikey> !botsnack | be good.
[04:01] <ubotu> be good.: Yum!
[04:03] <dr0fnax> !xgl
[04:03] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:04] <intelikey>  ! i = knot eye
[04:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i = knot eye - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <VanessaE> kick nvidia while you're at it :)
[04:06] <intelikey> i just use the suported nv on my card
[04:06] <intelikey> p
[04:06] <VanessaE> hm
[04:06] <intelikey> no 3d
[04:07] <VanessaE> 3d works fine for me normally...my problem is more of a driver conflict, and it appears to be nvidia's fault.
[04:08] <VanessaE> wait a second here....
[04:08] <VanessaE> something just....hm
[04:08] <VanessaE> brb
[04:08] <intelikey> my problem is an eula conflict    it says do you accept these terms and i say NO!
[04:09] <K`zan> kpatience (card game) is installed, but I get no cards showing, anyone else have this problem?
[04:10] <intelikey> be sure you don't copy that file anywhere you will be in violation of that agreement         ah actually installing it you make multiple copies so that violates the eula...
[04:11] <intelikey> K`zan starting a gui now... lemme look
[04:12] <intelikey> you caught me at a odd time.   normally i'm console only.
[04:12] <K`zan> intelikey: Thanks, unable to find anything, re-installed twice :-) no luck :-(
[04:12] <K`zan> intelikey: it really isn't important, just a time killer while waiting for things, do not put yourself out please!
[04:12] <SHRIKEE> question, every 5 orso minutes a sort off screen saver comes up, black screen bit white X, how do i kill that?
[04:13] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: you need to run the command "xset s off", you may want to add it to your ~/.bashrc
[04:13] <SHRIKEE> :o
[04:13] <SHRIKEE> that kills any X screensavers?
[04:14] <intelikey> K`zan nope my gui is fubar
[04:14] <intelikey> maybe someone else
[04:14] <SHRIKEE> where do i add it in bashrc? does it matter?
[04:15] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: that stops the screensaver with the big X, or if the screen goes blank, but you'll need to make sure to disable screensavers in KDE too
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> yea i have no screensavers, i just checked
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> thats why im asking here :)
[04:15] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: anywhere in there, normaly good idea to add it at the bottom tho
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> okie
[04:16] <VanessaE> there we go, problem solved.
[04:16] <SHRIKEE> lets hope that helps :) and how do i make the back and forward buttons on my mouse go back and forward in konqueror? i already altered the xorg.conf and it works in firefox, but not in konqueror
[04:17] <Launchpad-Lap> updating to 6.10 will install firefox?
[04:17] <K`zan> intelikey: Thanks for your efforts, I think some dependancy is missing (the cards), IIRC that was a separate thing as a dependancy (been a while not totally sure, still looking).
[04:17] <intelikey> VanessaE got kpat installed ?
[04:17] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: not a clue, sorry
[04:17] <VanessaE> Note to self: If the driver still says "beta" on the splash screen, the newer "stable" version is not installed. :-)
[04:17] <VanessaE> intel: yes
[04:17] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: yeah, you'll get firefox 2.0
[04:17] <intelikey> got cards ?
[04:18] <SHRIKEE> binary2k2: not by default
[04:18] <VanessaE> eh?
[04:18] <VanessaE> as in a real deck of?
[04:18] <intelikey> no in kpat
[04:18] <VanessaE> yeah
[04:18] <VanessaE> seems fine here
[04:18] <intelikey> K`zan see VanessaE
[04:18] <od-debar> how to add sql username?
[04:18] <VanessaE> they have a gear/earth logo with "KDE" below, as the card's backside.
[04:18] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: yeah, you'll have to install it from the repos, but it's notmaly the 1st thing people install
[04:19] <VanessaE> there appear to be a large number of card sets installed, too
[04:19] <intelikey> Kewl advertizzz all Kinds of Krap in Kde
[04:19] <K`zan> intelikey: :-) glad he does, I sure don't :-).  Even removing and re-installing doesn't get it - no idea.  Will have to find something else to burn time I guess.  Thanks!
[04:20] <intelikey> check package lists
[04:20] <intelikey> Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2), libkdegames1 (>= 4:3.4.2), libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.6), libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4), kdebase-data, kdegames-card-data
[04:20] <BluesKaj> intelikey: nope still got a black scrn with mouse pointer where the kde login page is supposed to come up
[04:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj hmmm you know how to access other tty's ?
[04:21] <BluesKaj> clicking mouse right left and center , but no response
[04:22] <BluesKaj> ok TTY ?
[04:23] <SHRIKEE> does anyone know how to make the back and forward buttons work in konqueror too? instead of only firefox
[04:23] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah   [ctrl] +[alt] +[f#]         tty7 [f7]    is where the gui normally lives   1-6 are normally login consoles
[04:24] <nickv111> This is odd. For some reason, I installed libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2, and when I do mplayer dvd://, it spits back a ton of "libdvdread: CHECK_VALUE failed in ifo_read.c:<line #>" errors
[04:24] <nickv111> And, according to xine, it can't decrypt the CSS on any of my DVDs
[04:26] <dirollordi> hi
[04:26] <dirollordi> can someone help me please ?
[04:26] <joe__> Any know a good tutorial on how I can network my kubutu pc with my windows xp wireless hp laptop through a lynksys router?
[04:26] <Launchpad-Lap> !ati
[04:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <dirollordi> !ati
[04:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <dirollordi> !upgrade
[04:27] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:27] <joe__> Do I have to do something in samba to network pcs?
[04:28] <dirollordi> Why i can't upgrade kubuntu ?
[04:28] <binary2k2> dirollordi: we need more info than that
[04:29] <joe__> Anyone have knowledge on setting up home network?
[04:29] <binary2k2> joe__: what type of network?
[04:30] <joe__> hp xp home laptop wireless with pc kubuntu 6.10 wired to lynksis wireless g router?
[04:31] <joe__> binary2k2,  so I can exchange files between the 2 pc's
[04:31] <binary2k2> joe__: so, just file sharing?
[04:31] <burner> joe__: install samba server on the linux pc and type in "smb://computernameofpc" in the nautilus location "ctrl+L" when nautilus is open
[04:32] <binary2k2> burner: why would he be using nautilus?
[04:32] <intelikey> burner " in the nautilus location "  <--- 'nome eeh ?
[04:32] <burner> er... sorry, in konq do that ;)
[04:33] <joe__> burner not familiar with nautilus and how can I check if samba server is installed
[04:33] <joe__> I'm on kde, not gnome
[04:33] <binary2k2> joe__: that's to get to the windows share, if you want to share files from kubuntu, use Adept to install the samba package, then in System Settings you can setup shares
[04:36] <joe__> binary2k2.  What exactly do I need to get the windows share.  I will go try to install samba package
[04:37] <binary2k2> to ger files off the windows PC, just go to the address smb://Name_Of_Windows_PC/
[04:37] <binary2k2> *get
[04:37] <burner> sudo apt-get install samba
[04:37] <burner> right click on folders in konq and click share folder
[04:38] <joe__> let me try.  pretty sure samba already installed.
[04:41] <lloyd> Using Kubuntu Edgy Eft but can't get scim to work (everything else seems great)
[04:42] <lloyd> I just get a blank menu when I left click on the scim icon in the dock
[04:44] <joe__> binary2k2 I'm getting error "could not connect to host for smb://laptop/".  any ideas anyone?
[04:45] <binary2k2> joe__: try with the IP address
[04:46] <BluesKaj> nope intelikey, no luck , still getting the black scrn , no kde
[04:47] <rafaelkubuntu> How do I install a program?
[04:48] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: depends what type of program, normaly you'd use Adept
[04:48] <rafaelkubuntu> Yeah, I want to install firefox 2.0
[04:48] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: are you running Dapper ir Edgy?
[04:48] <rafaelkubuntu> Yes
[04:49] <nickv111> !ogm
[04:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:49] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: which one?
[04:49] <BluesKaj> !login
[04:49] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 2776 kB
[04:49] <nickv111> Hmm. How do you convert things to OGM? I don't think mencoder can do it
[04:49] <intelikey> !ff
[04:49] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:50] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: if you'r on dapper (6.06 or 6.06.1) than look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:50] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: if you'r on edgy, just use adept to install firefox
[04:50] <rafaelkubuntu> I'm running dapper
[04:51] <BluesKaj> Lost my kde login screen ...have to use the live cd ...my hda3 wont boot into kde ! :(
[04:51] <joe__> binary2k2, how do I ping in kubuntu to get the IP address.  I think I remember how to do in xp but if you know that would be great too.
[04:51] <intelikey> wont boot is improper nomen
[04:52] <BluesKaj> yeah intelikey, but you know what i mean
[04:52] <intelikey> so boot the machine an drop to tty1  sudo killall kdm    startx
[04:53] <binary2k2> joe__: if you need the IP address than use the command ifconfig , that will show all the interfaces on the system. But to ping open konsole and type ping (hostname)
[04:53] <rafaelkubuntu> How do I install firefox on kubuntu dapper?
[04:53] <binary2k2> rafaelkubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion will tell you how
[04:53] <BluesKaj> i have no prompt
[04:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj in tty1 ?
[04:53] <BluesKaj> nope
[04:54] <intelikey> tty2 ?
[04:54] <intelikey> :)
[04:54] <BluesKaj> what is tty ?
[04:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj i tried to explain that earlier     it's the console
[04:55] <intelikey> where linux is  not that gui pointy clicky thingy that passes for a desktop env
[04:55] <binary2k2> !tty
[04:55] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[04:55] <BluesKaj> yeah but the console is running in the live cd , I need to get at the Hda3
[04:56] <intelikey> the console will be running there too
[04:56] <intelikey> if it boots you should have 6 login tty's
[04:56] <intelikey> no matter what shape the 7'th is in...
[04:57] <Launchpad-Lap> does kubuntu supports samba?
[04:58] <os2mac> hi all.
[04:58] <Launchpad-Lap> !samba
[04:58] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, what do you mean "support"
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> you can install it and run it on Kubuntu if that's what you mean
[04:58] <Launchpad-Lap> yeah
[04:58] <Admiral_Chicago> then yes it does
[04:59] <intelikey> sends it stay away money every month ?
[04:59] <Launchpad-Lap> now can windows mount linux partions?
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, no
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> windows is too stupid
[04:59] <Launchpad-Lap> grrr
[04:59] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[04:59] <intelikey> actually it can
[04:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but there are some programs iirc that may let you
[05:00] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: you have to get a special driver, but it can do it
[05:00] <Launchpad-Lap> I am but a grasshopper, i have much to learn
[05:00] <intelikey> e2fsexplorer
[05:00] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[05:00] <intelikey> and friends
[05:00] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, is taht pron?
[05:00] <Launchpad-Lap> pr0n?
[05:00] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: take a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:01] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago in some cases it probably is.  depending on what it does to the fs
[05:02] <Launchpad-Lap> gotta finish updating to edgy
[05:02] <intelikey> Launchpad-Lap bet you have to do a clean install to get all the bugs worked out....
[05:02] <intelikey> wanna bet ?
[05:03] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, i'll bet you three cookies
[05:03] <Launchpad-Lap> i hope not
[05:03] <intelikey> bet ya half of nothing.    but if you win i'll want a chance to go dubble or nothing.
[05:03] <binary2k2> I've done 2 upgrades to edgy, one on my PC and one on a friends (remotely over ssh), both went without a hitch
[05:03] <Launchpad-Lap> i dont have no vlank cds
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, done
[05:04] <Admiral_Chicago> binary2k2, i've done a few no problem
[05:05] <intelikey> three out of  xxxx is not good odds tho
[05:05] <binary2k2> i think it's only when people use automatix and easyubuntu when things get messed up
[05:06] <Admiral_Chicago> binary2k2, that's why mine went well
[05:06] <intelikey> may very well be...   but i've seen at least xxxx issues with upgrading pass through this channel
[05:07] <Launchpad-Lap> i decide to make my athlon 3200+ a linux box because of the graphics card over heating.. doesnt do that in linux
[05:07] <intelikey> most desasterous is libc failed to upgrade...
[05:07] <binary2k2> edgy isn't quite as stable as dapper, but then it's not supposed to be. Dapper is long term support, Edgy is for us geeks :p
[05:07] <Launchpad-Lap> damn.. i should of stayed on dap then lol
[05:08] <Launchpad-Lap> oh well.. what betterway to learn then on the fly
[05:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap I would have, but then again i was testing Edgy early
[05:09] <intelikey> or the next two after that.
[05:09] <CofCC> bootup help needed
[05:09] <CofCC> I just successfully installed kubuntu on my system's slave HD
[05:09] <CofCC> XP is on the master
[05:10] <Launchpad-Lap> grr gotta clean the drum on my printer... its got like lines thru it
[05:10] <CofCC> and I'm trying to get bootmagic on XP to find Kubuntu as a boot option
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, what do you want to do?
[05:10] <binary2k2> I normaly have both stable and development versions of kubuntu installed, on different partitons, so if the development one breaks, i have the stable one to fall back on
[05:10] <BluesKaj> ok intelikey , I'm in irssi in the console ...what's next?
[05:10] <CofCC> get boot magic to have Kubuntu as an option
[05:10] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, why don't you just reinstall Grub?
[05:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj sudo killall kdm
[05:10] <CofCC> do I have to reinstall Grub from the Kubuntu CD
[05:11] <BluesKaj> ok , i need another shell, what's the command ?
[05:11] <Launchpad-Lap> how long does it take to update?
[05:11] <intelikey> BluesKaj alt+f2
[05:11] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, no you can do it in kubuntu
[05:11] <intelikey> BluesKaj alt+f1  is here
[05:11] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: depends on your connection and the power of your pc
[05:11] <Blacken> O-kay, so can anyone tell me why just about every major process--Xorg, gaim, Ktorrent, etc.--on my machine would suddenly start SCREAMING for resources? I just had to actually reboot my box because four processes were demanding 100%+ cpu time.
[05:11] <CofCC> but I can't boot kubuntu
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, you can also install it from a CD
[05:12] <CofCC> ok I'll probably have to go for a reinstall
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, no you dont
[05:12] <Admiral_Chicago> CofCC, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:12] <Blacken> O-kay, so can anyone tell me why just about every major process--Xorg, gaim, Ktorrent, etc.--on my machine would suddenly start SCREAMING for resources? I just had to actually reboot my box because four processes were demanding 100%+ cpu time.
[05:12] <joe__> intelikey.  what do I type in the xp run window to get the console up so I can ipconfig?
[05:13] <Blacken> joe__: cmd
[05:13] <intelikey> BluesKaj the tty numbers corespond with the function keys  alt+f1 == tty1    alt+f2 == tty2    alt+f3 == tty3          err all those are left alt key  the right alt is 13-24
[05:13] <intelikey> joe__ i don't do windows.
[05:13] <joe__> thanks blacken, I couldn't remember.
[05:13] <Admiral_Chicago> !repeat | Blacken
[05:13] <ubotu> Blacken: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:14] <joe__> intelikey, sorry i'm still trying to figure out how to share files
[05:14] <CVirus> !patience
[05:14] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[05:14] <intelikey> joe__ no problem.   i just don't do windows.  can't answer what i don't know.
[05:14] <Blacken> CVirus, Admiral_Chicago: I'm lagging like mad, I can't tell if anything actually goes through. I'm not a newb, I'm just on really friggin' rusty wire right now.
[05:15] <setite> all hail vmware
[05:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Blacken, ah okay. sometimes we get floods or repeats
[05:15] <Launchpad-Lap> when terminal closes that means the update is done?
[05:15] <Launchpad-Lap> nevermind
[05:15] <Blacken> Admiral_Chicago: I know. :-P I'm not exactly a newb...I'm just at my parents' house, with four walls between me and the router.
[05:15] <Launchpad-Lap> i accidently minimized it
[05:16] <intelikey> Blacken DoS ?
[05:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Blacken, are you using composite?
[05:16] <Blacken> 80% packet loss at my desk, a mere 25% loss on the floor. :p
[05:16] <CVirus> Blacken: have you upgraded from dapper to edgy ?
[05:16] <Blacken> Admiral_Chicago: Pardon?
[05:16] <Blacken> CVirus: Quite some time ago, yes.
[05:17] <CVirus> Blacken: is that Kubuntu ?
[05:17] <Blacken> CVirus: Correct.
[05:17] <Admiral_Chicago> Blacken, like XGL/Compiz, do you use that?
[05:17] <Blacken> Admiral_Chicago: Oh. Neg.
[05:17] <SHRIKEE> blacken, wifi?
[05:17] <Blacken> SHRIKEE: Yes, but that's not related to the Linux problem.
[05:17] <CVirus> Blacken: I've seen similar cases of applications eating all the resources but after upgrades from "Ubuntu" dapper tp edgy
[05:17] <SHRIKEE> http://www.j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ try this
[05:18] <SHRIKEE> maybe it helps :D
[05:18] <intelikey> does irssi beep on pm by default ?
[05:18] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, not that i know of
[05:18] <Blacken> The machine was fine all day. Heck, no problems since update. I popped the laptop on, and suddenly I was watching Xorg, Ktorrent, Konversation, and GAIM all well over 100% CPU usage.
[05:18] <intelikey> ah foo
[05:19] <binary2k2> wifi spray :p they'll sell anything
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> heh
[05:19] <Blacken> All programs that I'd invoke would do the same thing--I ran top in a tty, and *it* jumped over 100% too.
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> im not sure if its an actual product :P
[05:19] <joe__> intelikey.  I typed  "smb://19*.1**.1.10*/"     ie the other pc's ip on konqeror and I got error timeout on server?  do you think this is firewall problem?and I go
[05:19] <CVirus> Blacken: even after a couple of reboots ?
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> blacken, maybe you should slap the laptop
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> tell it to behave or you slam the lid shut...
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> you know
[05:19] <SHRIKEE> :)
[05:20] <CVirus> SHRIKEE: shut up ... drunk
[05:20] <Blacken> CVirus: No--it's fine now.
[05:20] <SHRIKEE> i am not drunk
[05:20] <intelikey> joe__ really someone else would be better help on that.  sorry.     try Admiral_Chicago  maybe
[05:20] <CVirus> SHRIKEE: you're acting as if you were
[05:20] <SHRIKEE> then you dont know how a drunk acts
[05:20] <binary2k2> joe__: do you have a firewall on the windows side?
[05:20] <CVirus> SHRIKEE: probably
[05:20] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, i'm awful at networking
[05:21] <intelikey> you'd have to bee me...
[05:21] <intelikey> beet
[05:21] <BluesKaj> intelikey: looks like Ilost my kde desktop ...gnome dektop with all the ptogs are still there , very starnge :)
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> joe__, do you have the same username in the other pc as in samba?
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the only think i can think of
[05:21] <BluesKaj> programs
[05:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj did you run startx ?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:21] <intelikey> you got what  ?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> it takes me into gnome
[05:22] <binary2k2> joe__: can you ping kubuntu -> windows and vice-versa?
[05:22] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, how do you know GNOME is still installed
[05:22] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok.   do this.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:22] <BluesKaj> I installed a few days ago
[05:22] <BluesKaj> gnome
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, how can you get into gnome and not kde?
[05:23] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago he hosed kdm config
[05:23] <intelikey> startx took him to gnome
[05:23] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, oh i figured that much
[05:24] <joe__> binary I can ping from windows to kubuntu but not from kubuntu.  in fact I sent ping from konsole and it keeps trying how do I stop it.
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> just clarifying
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> joe__, close the konsole
[05:24] <Launchpad-Lap> i noticed.. no bit torrent.. faster speed lol
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i think there is a flag to set the number of pings
[05:24] <intelikey> you want take this one?   i need to study
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'd check but i'm not on linux
[05:24] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey, sure
[05:24] <binary2k2> joe__: Ctrl-C will stop it
[05:25] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago he's in console irssi  so it's all yours
[05:25] <binary2k2> joe__: it sounds like a firewall issue on the windows side
[05:25] <Launchpad-Lap> is there anyway to make kubuntu kde to ... crap whats the other main desktop called.. gnome??
[05:25] <joe__> thanks control c worked
[05:25] <intelikey> oh and had him  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:25] <intelikey> k later.
[05:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yes. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <Launchpad-Lap> kewl
[05:26] <juanz> hello
[05:26] <juanz> i need a mac os theme
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, kde is better
[05:26] <juanz> for kde
[05:26] <Admiral_Chicago> juanz, kde-look.org is a good place to start looking
[05:27] <Launchpad-Lap> why is kde better?
[05:27] <binary2k2> juanz: have you looked on http://kde-look.org/ ?
[05:27] <Admiral_Chicago> i think it's easiter to navigate. it's really a personal preference
[05:27] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: because it just is :p
[05:28] <Launchpad-Lap> lol
[05:28] <Launchpad-Lap> whew takes a longtime to install 6.10
[05:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Launchpad-Lap, yea it took me 5 hours
[05:28] <SHRIKEE> 5 hours?
[05:29] <SHRIKEE> wth
[05:29] <joe__> binary2k2 I think the ping worked from kubuntu to windows.  says 14 packets transmitted, 14 rec, 0% lost.  I have all firewalls off.
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> SHRIKEE, i have a crap connection at my school
[05:29] <SHRIKEE> youre upgrading?
[05:29] <Launchpad-Lap> me yes
[05:29] <binary2k2> joe__: try the smb:// address now
[05:29] <Admiral_Chicago> joe__, yes it worked
[05:29] <SHRIKEE> ah, hmm
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> i hate windows
[05:30] <SHRIKEE> when upgraded dapper to edgy it took 30-40 minutes i think
[05:30] <joe__> in konqueror   smb://ip ?
[05:30] <SHRIKEE> yes joe_
[05:30] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago: will sudo apt-get install kde work ?
[05:30] <SHRIKEE> nothing wrong with the program windows ;)
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, it's already installed
[05:31] <SHRIKEE> well, not entirely true, but it works
[05:31] <BluesKaj> ok, how do i get it back
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:32] <joe__> yes, b4 windows crashed permanently on my pc, and b4 I installed kubuntu, I was never able to network my 2 windows machines to eachother correctly.  yes very frustrating
[05:34] <joe__> I'm still getting timed out on server error for my windows ip in konqueror.  Any ideas anyone?
[05:35] <binary2k2> joe__: maybe a dumb question, do you have file and printer sharing activated on wondows? it's not on by default
[05:35] <SHRIKEE> windows networking is 100x easier than linux networking :|
[05:35] <SHRIKEE> :P
[05:35] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: it's also 100x less secure
[05:36] <SHRIKEE> not nessesarily
[05:36] <SHRIKEE> fill the gaps with a unix firewall ;)
[05:36] <SHRIKEE> and youre set
[05:36] <binary2k2> without a commercial firewall, it's setup to open your shares to the world by default
[05:37] <SHRIKEE> nah
[05:37] <binary2k2> and m$'s file sharing isn't as secure as samba :p
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> uho
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> imtrying to get this apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[05:37] <SHRIKEE> but security isnt the point here
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> in terminal
[05:37] <joe__> binary2k2, you're a genius.  I just checked my wireless network connection and it was not set to sharing.  I changed it now it works and I can accsess my windows shared files.
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> hm
[05:37] <pierreth> how do I change the color of the scrolling button without changing the color used by the selection?
[05:37] <Launchpad-Lap> nm
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> set to sharing?
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> wth?
[05:38] <binary2k2> joe__: \o/ yippe
[05:38] <binary2k2> :p
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> oh btw, binary2k2
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> maybe you know
[05:38] <SHRIKEE> i cant access computers by name via samba
[05:39] <SHRIKEE> like smb://server/ doesnt work, but smb://192.168.0.3/ does
[05:39] <SHRIKEE> how can i fix that
[05:39] <binary2k2> I think you need to have netbios-ssn in /etc/inetd.conf
[05:40] <SHRIKEE> is that disabled by default?
[05:41] <joe__> thanks a million, now any idea how I can access my kubuntu files from windows pc.  do I have to turn on sharing in kubuntu?
[05:41] <binary2k2> it baybe, I satup mine a while ago and just copy it to new systems
[05:41] <binary2k2> joe__: you can get to it from System Settings
[05:41] <SHRIKEE> i have no inetd.conf
[05:42] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: do you have inetd-superserver installed?
[05:43] <SHRIKEE> i guess not ;)
[05:43] <SHRIKEE> just a default kubuntu edgy
[05:43] <binary2k2> joe__: don't know if it's different in dapper to edgy, but in system settings, go to Sharing
[05:43] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: I'm prety sure you need it then
[05:43] <SHRIKEE> edgy has a sharing thing :)
[05:43] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: or if you want an easy way ... :p
[05:43] <BluesKaj> exit
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> easy is the only way :)
[05:44] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: just set the hostnames and IPs in /etc/hosts
[05:44] <matroblend> How do I install blender 3D?
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> im on a ever changing network
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> also on several networks, depending on the time of day
[05:44] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: that it's the "not so easy" way for you :p
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> :(
[05:44] <SHRIKEE> ill have a look, thanks
[05:45] <Pupeno> matroblend: open up aptitude, search for blender and install it; like you install anything else.
[05:45] <SHRIKEE> from apt, netkit-inetd?
[05:45] <binary2k2> yep
[05:46] <Pupeno> matroblend: if you prefer the terminal, open up konsole and run 'sudo aptitude install blender'.
[05:46] <binary2k2> have a look at the command smbtree to see if you can get and netBIOS names
[05:47] <SHRIKEE> wicked
[05:47] <SHRIKEE> :D
[05:47] <SHRIKEE> \\server comes up
[05:48] <binary2k2> than apps that use SMB should use the names
[05:49] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[05:50] <Launchpad-Lap> how can i check to see what version of kubuntu im runing?
[05:50] <SHRIKEE> *timeout to server: server*
[05:50] <binary2k2> Launchpad-Lap: cat /etc/lsb-release
[05:50] <SHRIKEE> :(
[05:51] <Launchpad-Lap> ty
[05:51] <isede> does anybody know where would i find firefox 2 package for kubuntu?
[05:51] <burner> isede: in the edgy repositories
[05:51] <SHRIKEE> isede: apt-get install firefox
[05:51] <binary2k2> isede: if you'r on dapper (6.06 or 6.06.1) than look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:51] <Launchpad-Lap> also how do i setup my printer to be default. i set it to default local in gui but it keeps coming up "there is no default printer
[05:52] <SHRIKEE> Launchpad-Lap: @ printers in system settings
[05:52] <Launchpad-Lap> swwet i got 6.10
[05:53] <SHRIKEE> haha
[05:53] <Launchpad-Lap> hmm
[05:53] <Launchpad-Lap> apparntly it reseted some stufff
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> Launchpad-Lap: like? i didnt see any of that when i did an upgrade
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> binary2k2:
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ smbtree
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> Password:
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> ZEROCOM
[05:55] <SHRIKEE>         \\SERVER                        DataServer
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> :(
[05:55] <SHRIKEE> it wont connect tho
[05:56] <joe__> binary2k2, I can see samba ubuntu on my windows machine but when I click on it, it ask for username password.  I'm using my ubuntu username and password but not accepting it
[05:56] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: can you mount it with the netbois name?
[05:56] <SHRIKEE> how?
[05:56] <SHRIKEE> when i do smb://server/  it times out
[05:56] <matroblend> Ok so how do I open aptitude, I am use to ubuntu but want to see if I would like Kubuntu better and wish to use my favorite apps
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> matroblend look for adept in the k-menu
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> i think thats what you want :)
[05:57] <burner> SHRIKEE: try smb://ipaddress instead?
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> burner that works
[05:57] <SHRIKEE> but i want to identify a pc by its name
[05:57] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: something like "sudo mount -t smb \\SERVER /path/to/mount/to -o user=user,password=pass,uid=1000"
[05:58] <matroblend> That is the same as aptitude?
[05:58] <SHRIKEE> matroblend: adept installs software via apt
[05:58] <matroblend> ahh
[05:58] <binary2k2> joe__: try running the command smbpaswd and add a password
[05:58] <SHRIKEE> im gonna try and mount some
[05:59] <binary2k2> joe__: the samba password and the local password can be different too
[06:00] <joe__> under system settings sharing Local Network Browsing it has a default username and password, that is what I'm entering in windows and not working, any ideas.
[06:00] <Launchpad-Lap> hmm now to figure out whats up with my printer
[06:00] <binary2k2> joe__: that's the default for when connecting from kubuntu to the windows share, not the other was round
[06:00] <binary2k2> *way
[06:01] <joe__> oh
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> it wont mount
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> unknown filesystem
[06:01] <naught101> what's the best IRC client for linux?
[06:01] <SHRIKEE> konversation is teh win!
[06:01] <Dheeraj_k> !xmms
[06:01] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:02] <Dheeraj_k> xchat
[06:02] <BluesKaj> still no kde
[06:02] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: try with smbfs insted of smb in the mount command
[06:02] <SHRIKEE> naught101: the best client is a personal taste
[06:02] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: "sudo mount -t smbfs \\SERVER /path/to/mount/to -o user=user,password=pass,uid=1000"
[06:02] <SHRIKEE> k, binary2k2
[06:02] <SHRIKEE> *trying*
[06:03] <reldruh> hello
[06:03] <Dheeraj_k> !3g-ntfs
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3g-ntfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <joe__> I entered "smbpaswd" in konsole and said command not found.
[06:04] <SHRIKEE> joe__ its smbpasswd
[06:04] <SHRIKEE> double s
[06:05] <Launchpad-Lap> whew i have so much more questions
[06:05] <Launchpad-Lap> but im fixing to passout
[06:05] <Launchpad-Lap> so ill talk to yall later
[06:05] <SHRIKEE> it still says unknown filesystem :(
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> why would i want to mount it anyway :o
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> im not on this network all day :o
[06:06] <Dheeraj_k> hmm
[06:06] <binary2k2> it's just to see if it can use the netBIOS names
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> ah
[06:06] <SHRIKEE> well it wont even recognize the fs :(
[06:07] <globe> Is there some setting I have to do to get xarchiver to use unrar or unrar-free? .... they are installed but it still tells me that I do not have the proper archiver.
[06:07] <SHRIKEE> perhaps i need to restart the network services :)
[06:07] <binary2k2> SHRIKEE: don;t know if it's installed by default but, the mount helper for smb is in the package smbfs
[06:07] <SHRIKEE> *just a thought*
[06:09] <fatejudger> what is the package which includes all of the dev files for qt and kde?
[06:09] <fatejudger> !kdeincludes
[06:09] <ubotu> To install the kde includes, install the kde-devel package.
[06:10] <Dheeraj_k> !d4x
[06:10] <ubotu> d4x: graphical download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.7.1-2 (edgy), package size 706 kB, installed size 2016 kB
[06:11] <reldruh> can anybody point me to a good tutorial for compiling kde from source? Something newbie-friendly?
[06:11] <gtwy> reldruh: gentoo handbook
[06:11] <reldruh> gtwy: will that apply to ubuntu just as well?
[06:11] <gtwy> no
[06:12] <binary2k2> reldruh: "compiling kde from source" and "newbie-friendly" don't belong in the same sentence :p
[06:12] <SHRIKEE> indeed
[06:12] <SHRIKEE> lol
[06:12] <SHRIKEE> also, i dont think such exists for ubuntu and kubuntu since they come out of the box
[06:12] <reldruh> haha. True enough. I'm not a complete newbie but I've never compiled anything on this scale before
[06:12] <gtwy> reldruh: if you want to compile from source use gentoo, follow the minimal install guide youll learn a lot
[06:12] <reldruh> SHRIKEE: I know, but I'd like to see kde without any distro additions
[06:13] <SHRIKEE> then just uninstall those :)
[06:13] <reldruh> SHRIKEE: how?
[06:13] <SHRIKEE> dunno
[06:13] <arcan> hi
[06:13] <arcan> who install amsn?
[06:13] <SHRIKEE> gaim ftw :)
[06:13] <gtwy> distro additions?
[06:13] <gtwy> isnt there a vanilla version of kubuntu
[06:14] <gtwy> doesnt that mean non altered?
[06:14] <binary2k2> arcan: use kopete or gaim
[06:14] <reldruh> gtwy: that would be exactly what I'm looking for
[06:14] <arcan> how install amsn?
[06:14] <bill57785> hey, can anyone help? I am trying to play music from a partition that was/is used by windows (I have linux installed with it). I can't play any music on that partition......when it goes to play each song, it just skips to the next (which in turn skips through them all)
[06:14] <gtwy> im not sure as ive never used the vanilla version
[06:14] <arcan> Oo?
[06:14] <reldruh> gtwy: but I've tried all the alternate CD
[06:14] <reldruh> without much luck
[06:14] <gtwy> why do you want to change it
[06:14] <gtwy> whats wrong
[06:14] <binary2k2> arcan: both support msn network and kopete is installed by default
[06:15] <reldruh> gtwy: nothing's wrong. I love Kubuntu, it finally allowed me to ditch windows all together, but I want to see kde on its own, preferably on an ubuntu base
[06:15] <SHRIKEE> kopete even supports webcam :)
[06:15] <SHRIKEE> which is quite nice
[06:15] <reldruh> SHRIKEE: does kopete support microphones?
[06:15] <SHRIKEE> i believe so, but i havent tried
[06:16] <SHRIKEE> kopete kept messing up my msn connection so i switched to gaim :(
[06:16] <binary2k2> reldruh: gizmo project supports microphones :p
[06:16] <umuro> I did a FIXMBR in my windows on USB harddisk. To restore the grub on my internal drive I issued on grub shell root(hd0,0); setup(hd0). Now when I boot GRUB IS TRYING TO MOUNT THE USB DRIVE AS THE ROOT FILE SYSTEM. I could not find a way to recover.
[06:17] <bill57785> I can't even get gaim to work anymore
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> owned, umuro
[06:17] <SHRIKEE> howso bill57785
[06:18] <matrix> hi, i have trouble with my sound device. when i start kde it weather plays an anoying constant frequence or it is giving normal sound output on only one box. as soon as i move the pcm level in the kmixer i don't hear anything from the device until the next restart.
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> matrix, is it like a constant hum or buzz?
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> if so, try other speakers
[06:19] <SHRIKEE> might be a short
[06:19] <umuro> Any grub wizards?
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:20] <reldruh> gtwy: thanks for the gentoo advice. That looks perfect for what I want to do
[06:20] <matrix> SHRIKEE: those are the build in speakers of my laptop and the problem is the same when i connect my headset
[06:20] <SHRIKEE> ahh ok, matrix
[06:21] <reldruh> gtwy: you said follow the minimal installation?
[06:21] <gtwy> reldruh: its good for a beginner linux user, teaches you about each and every little file... what graphics card do you have though?
[06:21] <gtwy> yeah minimal install
[06:21] <reldruh> gtwy: nvidia geforce 7300
[06:21] <gtwy> okay X is not going to work off the bat
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> matrix: open kmix and go to the tab switches, disable the external amplifier
[06:21] <gtwy> go to the gentoo wiki
[06:21] <reldruh> gtwy: :-( why not?
[06:21] <SHRIKEE> see if that helps
[06:21] <gtwy> its easy to fix
[06:21] <bill57785> well, everytime it goes to log in to gaim, it goes through, and then went it goes to load my buddy list, Gaim just closes
[06:21] <gtwy> but you will have to additionally emerge the nvidia package
[06:22] <SHRIKEE> bill57785: try reinstalling gaim
[06:22] <gtwy> and make sure when you use genconfig to set up modules correctly
[06:22] <gtwy> er, genkernel
[06:22] <gtwy> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_nVidia_Drivers
[06:23] <matrix> SHRIKEE: no external amps there. all options i have: phone, iec958, mix, stereo downmix
[06:23] <SHRIKEE> >.<
[06:23] <gtwy> reldruh: pretty much all other video cards run great and easily but nvidia is a weird type of driver
[06:23] <SHRIKEE> hmm
[06:23] <reldruh> gtwy: and I got this one because I thought it would work best ;-)
[06:24] <SHRIKEE> !sound
[06:24] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:24] <reldruh> gtwy: will I need to go through this process after or during the base gentoo install?
[06:25] <reldruh> if it's after I'm just going to concentrate on that and not worry about this until later
[06:25] <joe__> binary2k2  the smbpasswd asked me for old password.  I have never set one.  unless it is my normal root password.  WTH.
[06:26] <gtwy> reldruh: last thing before you reboot
[06:26] <gtwy> but make sure you read that page before you run genkernel!
[06:26] <reldruh> hmmm
[06:26] <gtwy> you can do it after you reboot but X wont work
[06:26] <gtwy> youll be in text only
[06:26] <binary2k2> joe__: try just pressing enter, or entering you normall user password
[06:26] <reldruh> gtwy: I'm decently comfortable with a cli
[06:27] <reldruh> but I'm going to go read it now while the minimal CD downloads, then come back with whatever questions I have before taking the plunge
[06:27] <gtwy> remember to write down anything you need
[06:27] <gtwy> like all your network information
[06:28] <gtwy> nameservers if your router doesnt handle that stuff
[06:28] <gtwy> some networks you can put the gateway as the nameserver
[06:28] <gtwy> aka 192.168.1.1 but on others you have to know your ISPs actual nameserver
[06:28] <joe__> i did.  it just always says could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: Nt status logon failure
[06:29] <joe__> failed to change password for "username"
[06:29] <gradin> hey guys
[06:29] <gtwy> binary2k2: yeah really, my first 2 computers were ONLY cli
[06:29] <gradin> i got a question is there a way to monitor an SSL connection Hostside?
[06:29] <joe__> In windows when its asking for username for samba desktop do I use my kubuntu login name?
[06:30] <binary2k2> joe__: make sure samba is running with "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart"
[06:30] <gradin> and is there also a way i can see currently logged in users?
[06:30] <binary2k2> joe__: yes, try with that
[06:30] <gtwy> joe__: which computer are you tryingn to connect into
[06:30] <gtwy> the linux machine?
[06:30] <joe__> yes from windows pc to kubuntu pc
[06:31] <gtwy> windows what
[06:31] <gtwy> xp?
[06:31] <binary2k2> gtwy: yes, he has win xp
[06:32] <gtwy> binary2k2: did you see samba released a fix in their newest version to be compatible with vista?
[06:32] <gtwy> however ubuntu/kubuntu repositories are not distributing it yet im not sure why
[06:33] <binary2k2> gtwy: matbe because vista isn't out yet
[06:33] <gtwy> oh
[06:33] <gtwy> http://tool.gtwy.net/vista ;)
[06:33] <gtwy> RTM
[06:33] <binary2k2> gtwy: and who knows when(IF) it will be
[06:33] <gtwy> they release it to enterprise  in a few weeks here
[06:33] <gtwy> im on it right now actually
[06:34] <gtwy> i run gentoo on all my server machines and kubuntu on my laptop
[06:34] <binary2k2> ahh, but how long to Windows Vists SP1 comes out? :p
[06:34] <gtwy> lol
[06:34] <gtwy> i beta tested windows vista RC1 and beta 2 and i thought it was a pile of crap
[06:34] <gtwy> was using over a GB of ram
[06:35] <gtwy> and crashed a lot
[06:35] <gtwy> ive had this machine on for a week straight, no crashes and it is only usingg 350MB ram
[06:35] <binary2k2> I don't have a spare PC with 99.9GHz cpu and 2000GB RAM at the moment, so i'm gonna avoid vista :p
[06:35] <gtwy> eh, youll need 768MB minimum
[06:36] <gtwy> i have 1GB i am going to order another one in january i think
[06:36] <gtwy> and i have a dual core amd 64 3800+
[06:36] <binary2k2> look at the minimum for XP and tell me a machine like that will run well with XP
[06:36] <gtwy> and it runs real well
[06:36] <gtwy> binary2k2: i was telling you what i thought the min should be
[06:36] <gtwy> not what they say
[06:37] <binary2k2> i've seen some (draft) specs for vista a while ago, but i wasn't saying that.
[06:38] <binary2k2> I was saying that MS always underestimate the min specs
[06:38] <gtwy> i think the idea is to push the hardware manufatures to do more
[06:38] <gtwy> and to create reason for people to buy newer technology
[06:39] <binary2k2> that's the only thing you have to thank MS for, they do push hardware
[06:40] <binary2k2> I can't wait to see those quad core cpus, and drewl over them
[06:40] <gradin> there a way to monitor an incoming SSL connection?
[06:40] <gradin> *is there a way...
[06:41] <gradin> like logging or something
[06:41] <reldruh> binary2k2: I saw that Alan Wake demo from Intel. Amazing!
[06:41] <joe__> binary2k2 did that restart thing still failing to change password.
[06:41] <gtwy> binary2k2: http://www.psc.edu/~dgraham/pics/11162006/11162006.html
[06:41] <gtwy> binary2k2: my uncle won that machine last week down in florida at some computer conference he was at
[06:42] <joe__> moving files from windows to ubuntu works great though, thanks again
[06:42] <gtwy> value is ~$4,900. Specs: Dual QUAD core Intel Xeon server 1U, RAID 3 (3 drives) hot swap 2GB Double Buffered RAM
[06:42] <binary2k2> joe__: in /etc/samba/smb.conf whats the part with "interfaces =" say?
[06:43] <gtwy> binary2k2: he had it shipped back up here but he hasnt got it in yet, i told him we are going to have to do some compiling on it to see just how fast it is
[06:43] <binary2k2> gtwy: not fair, I want that :p
[06:43] <gtwy> yeah really
[06:43] <gtwy> he is going to sell it
[06:43] <BonBonTheJon> any one know how to find what type of memory a computer is using
[06:43] <gtwy> i am jealous of him, he works at the PSC so he gets to play with supercomputers all day anyways
[06:43] <binary2k2> BonBonTheJon: type free in to a terminal
[06:44] <BonBonTheJon> binary2k2: no, I mean like PC2100 type
[06:44] <binary2k2> gtwy: I would never go home :p
[06:44] <binary2k2> BonBonTheJon: oh, try lshw , you may have to apt-get it
[06:45] <reldruh> gtwy: the part of the nvidia driver howto on the gentoo wiki I needed to read was about the required kernel settings?
[06:45] <gtwy>  yes
[06:45] <gtwy> for when you run genkernel
[06:45] <reldruh> notech: If you built your kernel with genkernel, you should be able to skip this section.
[06:45] <BonBonTheJon> binary2k2: thatnks, I just ran it
[06:45] <reldruh> note*
[06:46] <reldruh> so this is just something I need to make sure goes normally and not fiddle with anything?
[06:46] <gtwy> reldruh: pretty much
[06:46] <reldruh> gtwy: OK :-) thank you very much. I'm going to try my hand at gentoo now
[06:46] <gtwy> good luck
[06:47] <reldruh> thanks :-) I'll make sure to report back (probably with lots of questions)
[06:50] <gradin> hey gtuy do you know of a way to monitor an incoming SSL connection?
[06:55] <gtwy> question, what is this all about?
[06:55] <gtwy> #kubuntu(+cfnt #ubuntu-unregged)
[06:56] <airfoil_1> hello
[06:57] <airfoil_1> I try to use adept installer to add packages from internet but fail
[06:57] <airfoil_1> please help
[06:57] <gtwy> airfoil_1: which packages
[06:57] <airfoil_1> all
[06:57] <gtwy> all packages or any package
[06:58] <gtwy> have you tried going through the package manager or the "add remove programs" link in the menu
[06:58] <airfoil_1> the package i haven't install into the system during cd installaton become grey
[06:59] <airfoil_1> gtwy: i try use add/rmove
[06:59] <gtwy> go through the package manager
[06:59] <gtwy> it is under system i think
[06:59] <airfoil_1> yup
[06:59] <gtwy> sync it with the repositories
[06:59] <airfoil_1> assume i want development package
[07:00] <airfoil_1> the package become grey which i can't click on it.
[07:00] <gtwy> airfoil_1: do you have a working internet connection on it
[07:00] <airfoil_1> gtwy: I got it. i am tryng now.
[07:01] <bLaZeD> how can i record my desktop....?
[07:01] <gtwy> airfoil_1: the kubuntu machine, does it have a working internet connection
[07:02] <airfoil_1> yes I have internet. the machine i use is the one i am chatting now.
[07:03] <gtwy> okay
[07:03] <airfoil_1> hold on I trying
[07:03] <airfoil_1> previosly i use the add/remove program at start menu.
[07:03] <airfoil_1> but found nothing.
[07:03] <gtwy> i never use that
[07:04] <gtwy> i just type the name of the package into the adept package manager
[07:04] <airfoil_1> now i am tryng system-->adept manager
[07:04] <gtwy> and download through there
[07:05] <airfoil_1> thank you gtwy. i am exploring adept manager thru system-->adept manager now.
[07:05] <airfoil_1> what is different between add/remove program (adpt manager) and system-->adept manager?
[07:06] <gtwy> well i know you need to sync with the respositories to make sure you have the most updated list of files before you start downloading
[07:06] <gtwy> and i think the only way to update your list is with the adept manager
[07:06] <gtwy> is it working now?
[07:06] <gtwy> if it isnt i have another idea
[07:06] <airfoil_1> actually i want to add my package not upgrade.
[07:07] <gtwy> airfoil_1: i know, but your computer has to have a LIST of available packages so when you click install it knows what to download
[07:07] <gtwy> what the hell is this
[07:08] <airfoil_1> yes. the list become grey and i can't click on it.
[07:08] <airfoil_1> gtwy: i tihink some flooding #kubuntu
[07:08] <airfoil_1> someone
[07:53] <aoeuid> could anyone help me set up wine?
[07:54] <aoeuid> ._.
[07:58] <fatejudger> has anyone been successful at compiling the new kpilot after the whole data loss bug?
[07:58] <fatejudger> I can't seem to get a successful compile
[08:09] <superlion> i was thinking about installing newest Beryl versio from http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/pool/edgy/beryl-svn/ . can i somehow add it to sources.list or how would it be easiest to install?
[08:10] <binary2k2> I have it in my sources.list, i'll go get it
[08:11] <binary2k2> superlion: deb http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org edgy beryl-svn
[08:16] <gtwy> glad to see the network is back
[08:16] <binary2k2> you know what happened ?
[08:16] <gtwy> no idea
[08:16] <gtwy> godling)) from what i gather in #freenode-social it was a bug in the ircd
[08:17] <gtwy> what someone in the other room i lurk in said
[08:17] <binary2k2> nasty little bug :p
[08:17] <matroblend> Hi how do I get flash to work with Konqueror?
[08:18] <gtwy> try googling "easy ubuntu"
[08:18] <binary2k2> matroblend: you in dapper or edgy? and do you want flash9 (beta) ?
[08:18] <matroblend> Edgy
[08:19] <matroblend> Hmm not sure 
[08:19] <matroblend> On the 9beta I guess so
[08:20] <binary2k2> matroblend: how to on ubuntuforums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990
[08:21] <wizard> hmm
[08:21] <matroblend> ty
[08:22] <binary2k2> hmm, no topic in here
[08:23] <metres> Hi all, I'm running Edgy on AMD64 and I have a problem : when I try to watch a movie with Kaffeine, the X-Server is restarting... 
[08:23] <seven> anyone what package do i need for xen
[08:24] <_kuja_> metres, what video driver are you using?
[08:24] <metres> ATI 8.31.5
[08:25] <_kuja_> I wouldn't doubt if that were the problem, does the XServer restart when you're using the vesa or ati driver? (as opposed to fglrx)
[08:25] <metres> fglrx
[08:26] <metres> I didnt try with vesa driver...
[08:26] <_kuja_> Could be worth trying, but one idea first
[08:26] <_kuja_> in Kaffeine go to Settings->Xine engine parameters
[08:27] <_kuja_> in the video tab change it to something else, like opengl
[08:27] <metres> watchout I'll try I'm maybe restart...
[08:28] <metres> Nice It has worked :)
[08:28] <metres> thanks a lot _kuja_ !!
[08:28] <_kuja_> Yeah, the fglrx driver is really flaky, glad I went with a nvidia card. You're welcome
[08:29] <seven> anyone what package do i need for xen
[08:30] <_kuja_> Probably xen-image-xen0-2.6.17-6-generic-xen0, but I've never used it
[08:30] <_kuja_> (assuming Edgy)
[08:30] <seven> thanks
[08:35] <joe__> anyone here
[08:36] <parker`> My firefox is crashing every time I try to load sites like gmail or facebook or even my school's cs websites. It only doesn't crash on very simple HTML only pages. I am using version 2.0 on an up-to-date version of kubuntu
[08:36] <joe__> everyone asleep?
[08:36] <_kuja_> I'm asleep.
[08:36] <metres> Im there too...
[08:37] <joe__> you guys know much about samba
[08:37] <_kuja_> A little
[08:37] <metres> Never use...
[08:37] <_nightrid3r_> joe__: nope, i'm white so i can't dance :)
[08:38] <binary2k2> still havin problems joe__ ?
[08:38] <joe__> im editing the smb.conf  which should get rid of the password problem
[08:39] <binary2k2> yeah
[08:39] <joe__> I'm using nano in pico mode.  I forgot to get root access so after the changes I cant right to file
[08:40] <binary2k2> save it to another file and copt it over
[08:40] <binary2k2> *copy
[08:41] <joe__> I opened another terminal   did "su"  then root password.  it says su:authentication failure
[08:41] <binary2k2> use "sudo -i" or "sudo su" insted of su
[08:42] <joe__> will this give me write access in the firtst nano terminal?
[08:42] <binary2k2> yeah, it's the same as su
[08:42] <binary2k2> just more ubuntu-ish
[08:44] <joe__> only been on linux 2 weeks,  big learning curve
[08:44] <binary2k2> yeah, but if you'd only used windows for 2 weeks, it's still a learning curve :p
[08:45] <joe__> true, true
[08:45] <binary2k2> you'll get used to the linux way
[08:46] <binary2k2> and wounder how you ever got along without it :D
[08:46] <joe__> if I use alt B to make backup file of smb.conf do I need to change the name to something like smb2.conf for the backup?
[08:47] <joe__> or is it just same name and system marks it as bu of original file?
[08:47] <binary2k2> no, the backup will be saved as filename.ext~
[08:47] <binary2k2> toy just save as normak
[08:48] <binary2k2> you*
[08:49] <metres> Do anyone know cgi ? 
[08:49] <solid_liq> anyone know of a channel for nxserver/freenx?
[08:53] <_kuja_> metres..... you mean perl, right?
[08:53] <metres> I try to call a cgi in an html page throw localhost in perl yes...
[08:54] <_kuja_> You try to, and what happens?
[08:54] <metres> nothing...
[08:54] <_kuja_> *nod*
[08:54] <_kuja_> You have #!/usr/bin/perl at the top of the file right?
[08:55] <metres> I do as examples, put my script in the /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ and call 
[08:55] <klove> aany1 here?
[08:55] <klove> i really ned help 
[08:55] <metres> I am able to call http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl
[08:55] <_kuja_> klove, of course I'm not here.
[08:55] <klove> *need
[08:55] <klove> with an eggdrop 
[08:56] <_kuja_> dropping eggs? Sounds messy
[08:56] <klove> it is 
[08:56] <klove> lol
[08:56] <metres> but Im unable to use "<!--#exec cgi="Premier.pl"-->"
[08:56] <klove> i'm a newb to linux 
[08:56] <metres> welcome then
[08:56] <joe__> binary how do I clear all the lines and paste in the previous file I saved
[08:57] <klove> i had an irc bot on server2k3 box 
[08:57] <klove> switched to ubuntu and setup eggdrop 
[08:57] <klove> and when it connected it started removing all the bans and excempts 
[08:58] <klove> how do i turn that off 
[08:58] <joe__> I'm using nano in pico mode I guess, not very familiar with the controls
[08:58] <_kuja_> So what did you need then klove?
[08:58] <_kuja_> Wait, it didn't scroll, weird
[08:58] <binary2k2> joe__: controls are on the bottom, what you need help with?
[08:58] <unix_infidel> does Kubuntu have a system similar to kickstart in RHEL?
[08:59] <emonkey> I don't know kickstart but maybe you means something like katapult
[08:59] <joe__> need to delete old file info and paste in new file info that I saved in home directory
[08:59] <klove> i just want to use the bot for fun not channel services
[08:59] <unix_infidel> emonkey: nope.
[08:59] <unix_infidel> Anyone else who knows some enterprise solutions?
[08:59] <_kuja_> unix_infidel: You can get kickstart if you want it, I'm pretty sure.
[09:00] <emonkey> is that some OEM soultion?
[09:00] <binary2k2> joe__: just copy it over (sudo cp file.ext /path/to/copy/to/file.ext)
[09:00] <unix_infidel> emonkey: no.
[09:00] <unix_infidel> _kuja_: well, i was hoping there is some deb/ubuntu specific solution.
[09:00] <emonkey> sry I'm going to google :P
[09:00] <unix_infidel> where you can create something like an anaconda.ks file and go from there.
[09:00] <binary2k2> joe__: or save (Ctrl-O) and change the save to path to the file you want to overwrite
[09:00] <_kuja_> I think there is a deb for it, I'm looking
[09:00] <unix_infidel> instead of having to mess with a graphical or text installer.
[09:02] <klove> tried an rpm and alien unix_infidel?
[09:02] <unix_infidel> ahh, it seems only supported for breezy and hoary.
[09:02] <binary2k2> unix_infidel: the only package I could fine with kickstart in it is: system-config-kickstart
[09:02] <unix_infidel> yea, that's it, i should've googled.
[09:02] <unix_infidel> there is no "ubuntu specific" solution.
[09:03] <unix_infidel> its basically just lets make the ubuntu installer compatible with the redhat installer and adapt automation for kickstart files.
[09:04] <klove> no one can help with my eggdrop ?   
[09:05] <joe__> sudo cp smb.conf /home/joe/to/copy/to/etc/samba.smb.conf      (like that)
[09:05] <binary2k2> klove: try in #eggdrop
[09:05] <binary2k2> joe__: like cp smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:06] <binary2k2> joe__: cp [file to copy]  [where to copy to] 
[09:06] <binary2k2> (with sudo)
[09:07] <joe__> so I don't need path for home/joe where the file is.  thats just assumed by the system
[09:07] <_kuja_> metres, have you tried it on another webserver? I've never tried it locally, maybe something is misconfigured?
[09:08] <binary2k2> joe__: not if you'r in the same directory as the file, tho you can if you want, won't make a difference unless you'r in another directory then you home dir
[09:09] <metres> _kuja_ : nope, I just wanted to work local... hadnt access to a server...
[09:09] <uwo> hi all. how do i set xcompmgr to load up on startup?
[09:10] <_kuja_> Hmm, if you show me a (preferably stripped down) copy of the html and the script, I could give it a go to see if it works in my webspace
[09:11] <binary2k2> uwo: in konsole type "ln -s /usr/bin/xcompmgr ~/.kde/Autostart/"
[09:11] <uwo> binary2k2: tnx!
[09:12] <metres> _kuja_ : here is my html file : <!--#exec cgi="Premier.pl"-->
[09:13] <_kuja_> That's all that's in it then? Hmm
[09:13] <metres> _kuja_ : here is my Premier.pl :
[09:13] <metres> #!/usr/bin/perl 
[09:13] <metres> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
[09:13] <metres> print $ENV{'SCRIPT_FILENAME'};
[09:13] <joe__> binary2k2 got it saved.  thanks.  now we'll see if I edited it right 
[09:13] <metres> yes, the basics...
[09:14] <binary2k2> joe__: to get samba to re-read the file you need to do "sudo /etc/init.d/samba reload"
[09:15] <joe__> binary2k2  do you know about ""testparm" to check that you have not made any basic syntactic errors" do I need to do this
[09:16] <binary2k2> joe__: that's a good idea
[09:16] <binary2k2> joe__: it's bin so long since I edited my smb.conf i forgot about that :p
[09:16] <joe__> what do I do? just type testparm in a terminal 
[09:17] <binary2k2> joe__: yeah
[09:17] <_kuja_> metres: it looks like it doesn't work
[09:17] <joe__> b4 or after the reread file?
[09:17] <binary2k2> joe__: before is better
[09:17] <binary2k2> joe__: if you get any errors post them in pastebin
[09:18] <binary2k2> !pastebin
[09:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:18] <metres> It's weird cause I was able to look http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl 
[09:19] <_kuja_> uggh, it just had to be under my stack of java books didn't it 
[09:19] <metres> _kuja_ : have you tried  http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl  ?
[09:20] <_kuja_> Calling the script directly _IS_ different though, then again ....
[09:20] <_kuja_> Maybe that's the way it should be done to begin with, it probably is
[09:21] <_kuja_> Hmm, then again, maybe not
[09:21] <_kuja_> I'm confusing myself
[09:21] <metres> hehe
[09:23] <vursitis> Hello everyone.
[09:23] <metres> Hi vursitis
[09:25] <joe__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34082
[09:26] <vursitis> I'm having a problem with Firefox, and flash. It seems every time i install flashplayer in my Firefox browser, and then visit a website that uses flash, Firefox crashes on me, well more or less it shuts down, it isn't an actual crash, would anyone possibly know what might cause this other than flashplayer being installed?
[09:26] <joe__> looks like there might have been a couple of problems
[09:26] <vursitis> Such as?
[09:26] <binary2k2> joe__: the error about passdb is fine, but what's this about /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.desktop ?
[09:27] <binary2k2> joe__: can you post your smb.conf in pastebin so I can see?
[09:28] <_kuja_> metres, I've found another way to do it, but I think it requires you to have apache running
[09:28] <metres> _juja_ : Having it :)
[09:29] <metres> _juja_ : actually Apache2
[09:29] <joe__> I added  this line "netbios name = desktop" but I think I change something else.  I'll paste it for you.
[09:29] <binary2k2> ok
[09:29] <_kuja_> <!--#include virtual="Premier.pl"-->
[09:29] <_kuja_> or whatnot
[09:30] <_kuja_> Save the html file as *.shtml
[09:30] <joe__> 34084/
[09:32] <metres> _kuja_ : Didnt work, kind of weird...
[09:33] <_kuja_> Did you remember to chmod +x the perl file?
[09:33] <metres> _kuja_ : I also tried file instead of virtual 
[09:33] <metres> _kuja_ : yes,  http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl works
[09:33] <_kuja_> Hmm
[09:34] <metres> _kuja_ : and tried /cgi-bin/Premier.pl... I think I'll sleep on this...
[09:34] <_kuja_> I'm going to upload and test again
[09:35] <metres> _kuja_ : thanks
[09:35] <joe__> include = /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.desktop   that is the line that is the problem.  the directions made it seem like it would improve speed
[09:36] <joe__> binary2k2  Can you look at the file?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34084/
[09:36] <_kuja_> metres, hmm, still not working, *thinks*
[09:36] <binary2k2> joe__: sorry, I was trawling threw samba docs :p
[09:37] <metres> _kuja_ : like I say kind of weird
[09:37] <_kuja_> wait, doh
[09:37] <Simian__> why does my /etc/hosts have nothing in it?
[09:37] <binary2k2> joe__: unless you have that file /home/samba/etc/smb.conf.desktop (which I don't think you do), I'd remove it
[09:37] <binary2k2> joe__: other than that, everything looks ok
[09:38] <_kuja_> Hmm, now I get a "bad response from server" error.
[09:39] <binary2k2> joe__: except I'd uncomment the "interfaces = 127.0.0.0/8 eth0" part to make sure your shares arent open to the world, only LAN and local
[09:39] <metres> Looks like include virtual doesnt compile the file... _kuja_
[09:40] <metres> Or a permission issue...
[09:41] <momal> Can someone tell me how I can go about making all my internet traffic to go through a proxy... so everything that trys to connect to the net on my kubuntu box will connect to a proxy server i have set up and use it... I need a way to do this and beable to change it easily the ip/port it connects to
[09:41] <_kuja_> It certainly doesn't want to run it for some reason or another.
[09:42] <joe__> should I uncomment this as well ";   bind interfaces only = true"
[09:42] <metres> Thanks for your help _kuja_, I think i'll try to fix it another time...
[09:42] <binary2k2> joe__: yes, uncomment that
[09:43] <binary2k2> joe__:  this is what mine looks like for an example http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34085/
[09:43] <Simian__> why does my /etc/hosts have nothing in it any more? it was supposed to say     127.0.0.1    localhost.localdomain     localhost
[09:43] <momal> Can someone tell me how I can go about making all my internet traffic to go through a proxy... so everything that trys to connect to the net on my ubuntu box will connect to a proxy server i have set up and use it... I need a way to do this and beable to change it easily the ip/port it connects to
[09:44] <_kuja_> metres, it could be that I don't know where they actually have perl installed on their server, I'll check that
[09:44] <binary2k2> joe__:  is your PC connected directly to the internet, ie not by router?
[09:44] <caryl> hi every body 
[09:44] <joe__> thru a router
[09:44] <joe__> why?
[09:44] <metres> _kuja_ I tried which perl and it's /usr/bin/perl/ ...
[09:45] <metres> Hi caryl
[09:45] <caryl> i metres ..
[09:45] <_kuja_> That doesn't mean that they were conventional ... I didn't set it up, afterall.
[09:45] <binary2k2> joe__: then it's not *too* important to restrict it then, as long as your router isn't set to forward all connections to your PC
[09:45] <caryl> what 's your problem metres ?
[09:46] <caryl> perhaps , i can help you
[09:46] <metres> Unable to run a cgi (perl) script trew localhost
[09:46] <binary2k2> momal: look in System Settings, in Network Settings
[09:46] <joe__> i don't think so, I made one change maybe like that for a port to get azues to work better.  does that matter?
[09:46] <momal> That only does it to visual stuff under kde
[09:47] <momal> it doesn't work on things like python
[09:47] <momal> and console programs
[09:47] <metres>  http://localhost/cgi-bin/Premier.pl works but i'm unable to call it from an html or shtml file...
[09:47] <binary2k2> momal: look for Proxy, it will set some environment vairables for the system
[09:48] <momal> Binary2k2: I have already tried setting the proxy under kde but it doesn't work for console applications
[09:48] <binary2k2> joe__: no, that's fine
[09:48] <binary2k2> momal: is it just a HTTP proxy you want?
[09:49] <momal> binary2k2: no.. I want every port every single connection out of this computer to go through my proxy i have set up on another computer
[09:50] <joe__> don't worry about uncommenting the interface lines then
[09:51] <binary2k2> momal: you could try setting the proxy vairable and see if that works (proxy="uset:pass@IPorHostName:1234"), other than that, i don't know
[09:51] <matroblend> How do I mount a floppydrive?
[09:51] <binary2k2> joe__: no, I don't think you need to in your case
[09:52] <binary2k2> !floppy | matroblend
[09:52] <ubotu> matroblend: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:52] <matroblend> k ty 
[09:53] <momal> isn't the proxy varible: http_proxy and ftp_proxy? and if so they work on wget, apt-get and lynx but not other things trying to access via other ports
[09:54] <binary2k2> momal: I don't know if proxy is global or not used, but I don't use a full proxy so I don't know how to help
[09:54] <momal> k thanks anyway
[09:54] <binary2k2> momal: maybe ask in #kde or #linux if there is a way to get KDE to setup a global proxy
[10:00] <joe__> binary2k2.  Oops you did it again.  Victory.  I can now access ubuntu files and printer from xp laptop and can access xp files from ubunu.  I owe you one.  thanks again.  I'm going to bed.
[10:00] <binary2k2> joe__: np glad you got it workin :D
[10:01] <joe__> talk to you another time.  how long you been using linux?
[10:02] <binary2k2> about 10 years on and off, but it's bin my primary OS for about 4 years
[10:02] <binary2k2> startd using it when i was 10 :p
[10:03] <joe__> no way!! so your 20 now?
[10:03] <binary2k2> yeah :D
[10:04] <joe__> have you seen the Mac, PC, Linux commercials on youtube.  They make linux look like a shabbily dressed geek.
[10:05] <xsacha> link?
[10:06] <binary2k2> yeah, ive seen some, there's a good commercial for IBM and linux on google somewhere tho that's quite good
[10:06] <binary2k2> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8333280591924223277&q=IBM+linux
[10:07] <xsacha> this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ONl6J7z7jmE ?
[10:07] <Mlcloud> Can anyone help out with a little internet connection problem for 6.10 Kubuntu?
[10:08] <Mlcloud> lspci and lshw shows my network card, but the network settings do not. There is no eth0 or anything along those lines
[10:08] <Mlcloud> dhclient doesn't find any broadcasting interfaces
[10:08] <Mlcloud> ... anyone?
[10:11] <metres> Mlcloud : try ifconfig
[10:11] <Mlcloud> did so.
[10:11] <Mlcloud> What information should I list? I wrote most of it down..
[10:12] <binary2k2> xsacha: interesting vid, makes me wanna keep sharp objects away from my PC :p
[10:12] <xsacha> lol
[10:14] <xsacha> binary2k2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=jnIbZAqvuc4 :P
[10:14] <joe__> binary very cool linux vid.   heres one of the pc, mac linux ones http://youtube.com/watch?v=MCoveDp9PqM
[10:17] <binary2k2> xsacha: do you like things gettin show or something :p
[10:19] <binary2k2> joe__: xsacha: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1I-GDn08M_0
[10:21] <vitor> What is this network's names?
[10:21] <Mlcloud> freenode..?
[10:21] <vitor> Mlcloud: ok thanks :] 
[10:22] <Mlcloud> Anyone have any clue why my internet connection in Kubuntu edgy wont work?
[10:22] <Mlcloud> I'll provide details if someone will answer >.>
[10:23] <vitor> How do I install KDM Theme Manager ?
[10:23] <abattoir> !info kdmtheme
[10:23] <ubotu> kdmtheme: theme manager for KDM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 264 kB
[10:23] <abattoir> vitor: ^^^^
[10:24] <abattoir> vitor: you should find it in adept if you have universe enabled...
[10:25] <vitor> abattoir: well I downlod the source... at www.kde-apps.org... now what?
[10:25] <vitor> abattoir: Should I compile it?
[10:26] <candyban> Hi guys
[10:26] <abattoir> vitor: i'd suggest installing the .deb package instead of compiling from source
[10:26] <metres> hey candyban
[10:26] <abattoir> !universe
[10:26] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:26] <vitor> abattoir: i did't find the package :/
[10:26] <candyban> Whenever I install dmtools (soft-raid), my system refuses to boot with the 2.6.17 kernel
[10:26] <abattoir> vitor: ^^^ that should give you info on enabling universe and multiverse
[10:26] <candyban> Hi metres :)
[10:26] <abattoir> vitor: then look for kdmtheme
[10:27] <candyban> Is there some kind of known "bug" ?
[10:28] <vitor> abattoir: thanks (and sorry about my english) I'm from brazil   [<@>] 
[10:28] <joe__> xsacha, do you have trouble playing you tube vids in konqeror and firefox on kubuntu, I couldn't play either of those vids.  I had to save them to my favorites on youtube
[10:28] <abattoir> vitor: your english is fine :)
[10:28] <vitor> thank you :] 
[10:28] <robotgeek> joe__: you have flash installed?
[10:28] <abattoir> vitor: there are channels if you want to speak portuguese though
[10:29] <abattoir> !br | vitor
[10:29] <ubotu> vitor: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:29] <xsacha> joe__: no problem here, just install flash
[10:29] <joe__> then pull them up on my windows xp laptop ironically enough.
[10:29] <joe__> will konqueror play them or just firefox
[10:29] <binary2k2> joe__: you may need flash9 beta 
[10:30] <xsacha> konqueror will use netscape/firefox plugins...
[10:30] <gtwy> so how come konqueror doesnt support SOCKS easily
[10:30] <thill2708> I run kubuntu, and I want to xdmcp into gnome. Should I install anything to make it work correctly? I set up remote login on the server through the login window administration screen and tried to log in, but I only got a black screen and an "X" mouse cursor. What's up?
[10:31] <vitor> abattoir: hey that's fantastic! I didn't knew it! Thanks.
[10:31] <abattoir> :)
[10:32] <thill2708> !xdmcp
[10:32] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[10:32] <caine> hi im new on linux im trying apt-get upgrade but gives this error
[10:32] <caine> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:32] <caine>   libc6-i686: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu15) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[10:32] <caine>   ubuntu-base: Depends: ubuntu-minimal but it is not going to be installed
[10:32] <caine>                Depends: ubuntu-standard but it is not going to be installed
[10:32] <binary2k2> !pastebin | caine
[10:32] <ubotu> caine: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:32] <caine> soryy binary2k2 
[10:33] <vitor> abattoir: kdmtheme is installed! How do I run it?
[10:33] <sandra_> hi there
[10:33] <binary2k2> caine: np, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:33] <abattoir> vitor: it's a module under KDE Control Center
[10:33] <caine> thank you im trying
[10:33] <abattoir> vitor: Alt+F2->kcontrol
[10:34] <abattoir> vitor: i think it goes under 'Appearance..'
[10:34] <thill2708> anyone? anyone here ever remote login into a gnome ubuntu desktop?
[10:34] <joe__> I'm pretty sure I've got flash 9 beta installed.   Trying to get that installed my 2nd day on linux just about made me give it up altogether.
[10:34] <vitor> abattoir: ok I got it! :] 
[10:35] <sandra_> http://pastebin.ca/258250 --> I am trying to enrypt a partition and get this error. How can I resolve tis?
[10:35] <joe__> I've learned a lot since then and I like kde a lot better than gnome.
[10:36] <binary2k2> joe__: if you go to about:plugins in firefox, it will tell you the flash version
[10:37] <joe__> anyway youtube works most of the time on firefox, never on confqueror, but sometimes like these last 2 vids, it pauses right after starts and no sound.
[10:37] <joe__> maybe I installed something wrong
[10:38] <llutz> hi
[10:39] <ijacek> !cz
[10:39] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[10:43] (binary2k2/#kubuntu) joe__: as long as "Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55" is at the top, it should play in version 9
[10:44] <binary2k2> joe__: you can right click on a flash object to see it's version at the bottom
[10:44] <thill2708> anyone know anything about remote logins?
[10:44] <Vuen> god i am so in love with kate. greatest text editor ever.
[10:45] <Vuen> it's so friendly
[10:45] <Vuen> i can open up anything, fortran, latex, bash scripts, c++... it just *knows* and syntax highlest appropriately
[10:46] <Mlcloud> What should be normally seen in kmenu-system settinsg->network settings->network connetions? Someone before said my Network Card...
[10:46] <Vuen> the best part is that it does everything, but it's not obnoxious about it. it's just happy being there for whatever you need it for.
[10:46] <Vuen> mmm, kate.
[10:47] <joe__> thanks again.    I'll look into it tomorrow. think I need to reboot or at least restart firefox
[10:57] <metres> Anyone knows how to kill a process, Adept Manager dont want to close...
[10:58] <ijacek> use system monitor ant kill it 
[10:58] <ijacek> *and
[10:58] <binary2k2> metres: ctrl-alt-escape then click on it
[10:59] <metres> Thank you binary2k2 that's what I wanted :)
[10:59] <edulix> hi!
[10:59] <edulix> anyone has a tork deb for ubuntu?
[10:59] <edulix> cause I was about to compile it but I need to download 69mb in kde-devel libs and I don't have damn fast connection..
[11:00] <ijacek> !cz
[11:00] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[11:00] <ijacek> f*ck
[11:07] <metres> good night all :)
[11:07] <dheeraj_k> good afternoon all :)
[11:08] <xMonkey> is there a linux program for controlling my cellphone? especially to write short messages with it
[11:09] <Stardog> FInally when i've at last managed fixing my ati driver, my desktop wont turn of.... It locks completely up after msg; "sending TERM signal to all prosesses"....
[11:25] <tenco> amarok stopped working here today and refuses to play any ogg's
[11:25] <tenco> i have no clue whats the problem
[11:25] <tenco> oh, edgy
[11:26] <dheeraj_k> sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[11:27] <tenco> already installed
[11:27] <tenco> amarok depends on that package, btw
[11:28] <tenco> and kaffeine hadn't worked at all since i installed kde with edgy
[11:28] <tenco> but amarok worked yesterday
[11:28] <dheeraj_k> sudo dpkg -r amarok
[11:29] <tenco> wait a minute, was 1.4.4 released for edgy yesterday?
[11:29] <dheeraj_k> wat error it is giving now?
[11:30] <jager> i've still got 1.4.3
[11:30] <tenco> i've 1.4.4 here
[11:30] <ubuntu4> HI. I have a problem with grub
[11:30] <tenco> dheeraj_k: that it cannot load the ogg files
[11:30] <jager> is 1.4.4 in the standard edgy repos?
[11:31] <tenco> dheeraj_k: but the minute before, it indexed my full audio collection, all oggs
[11:31] <dheeraj_k> i'll b back in 15 minute i have to do lunch :)
[11:31] <tenco> jager: no
[11:31] <jager> oic
[11:32] <ubuntu4> Anyone can help me in reinstalling grub in my disc_
[11:32] <jager> 1.4.3 is good enough for me, i've been on 1.3.9 forever
[11:32] <jager> 1.4 is much improved
[11:33] <dheeraj_k> use amarok with xine engine
[11:33] <jager> i am
[11:34] <tenco> dheeraj_k: with xine engine ist the only choice available, btw. so i am using it.
[11:35] <tenco> i purged amarok and installed it again, but still the same problem
[11:35] <dheeraj_k> r u able to play other file eg mp3?
[11:35] <ubuntu4> My problem with grub: I had to recover WinXP (on another partition) and grub is not working anymore.
[11:35] <tenco> dheeraj_k: dunno. let me search for an mp3
[11:36] <Stardog> FInally when i've at last managed fixing my ati driver, my desktop wont turn of.... It locks completely up after msg; "sending TERM signal to all prosesses"....
[11:36] <tenco> dheeraj_k: mp3 doesnt work, too
[11:36] <tenco> ok, i'll try reverting back to 1.4.3, now
[11:38] <dheeraj_k> i was facing similar problem yday :)
[11:38] <dheeraj_k> go to setting>>>>configure amarok
[11:39] <dheeraj_k> Engine
[11:39] <dheeraj_k> and select output plugin == asla
[11:40] <tenco> dheeraj_k: nothing changed
[11:41] <tenco> 1.4.3 has the same problem
[11:42] <zorglu_> !nfs
[11:42] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:43] <ubuntu4> !grub
[11:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:43] <tenco> kubuntu is the new windows, it seems. things stop working overnight and you have no clue, why. because there are no logs, meaningful errormessages or sth similar
[11:44] <tenco> *sigh*
[11:44] <Stardog> word :p
[11:44] <tbe> Holy crap people *are* alive at this hour
[11:44] <tenco> its 11.44
[11:45] <Stardog> yeah
[11:45] <xiO___> :>
[11:45] <tbe> Heh it's 5:44am here
[11:45] <tenco> 5.44am is 5.44, i guess
[11:45] <tenco> or 17.44?
[11:45] <tbe> 5.44
[11:46] <dheeraj_k> ok i am back
[11:46] <dheeraj_k> no click on system setting
[11:46] <Stardog> anyone know y my comp wont shut down?
[11:47] <dheeraj_k> >>>>sound and multimedia
[11:47] <redmonkey> hi! is there an easy way to install xgl/aiglx on edgy eft? and is there a way to install it without adding extra repositories?
[11:47] <Stardog> it locks up after the msg: "sending term signal to all prosesses"
[11:47] <tbe> redmonkey: aiglx comes with edgy... just check the www.beryl-project.com wiki for instructions
[11:47] <dheeraj_k> sudo poweroff
[11:47] <Eruantalon> Has there been any problems with mysql in kubuntu recently. Mine just stopped working after rebooting today....
[11:48] <redmonkey> tbe: thanks!
[11:48] <tenco> Eruantalon: my amarok stopped working after booting today. dunno if that relates... :-)
[11:48] <tbe> redmonkey: no problem... make sure you know which one is better for your system... ehe and if you want more pretty effects use the Beryl SVN repository
[11:49] <dheeraj_k> techno go to system setting>>>sound and multimedia
[11:50] <tenco> dheeraj_k: k
[11:50] <dheeraj_k> sound system >>>hardware
[11:50] <tenco> dheeraj_k: its on automatic
[11:50] <dheeraj_k> and select Advanced Linux Sound Architucture 
[11:50] <tbe> Hm, can Konversation connect to multiple networks simultaneously?
[11:51] <dheeraj_k> select Advanced Linux Sound Architucture 
[11:51] <tenco> dheeraj_k: ok
[11:51] <dheeraj_k> now click on apply
[11:51] <dheeraj_k> now restart sound server
[11:51] <dheeraj_k> and amarok
[11:52] <dheeraj_k> now u may be able to play ogg and mp3
[11:52] <tenco> dheeraj_k: sorry, no
[11:52] <dheeraj_k> r u able to play mp3 on xine?
[11:53] <tenco> dheeraj_k: i cannot drop any files into the playlist
[11:53] <tenco> dheeraj_k: wait a minute, i have to install xine binary
[11:53] <tenco> dheeraj_k: ...xine-ui
[11:54] <milaks> Hello, how can I disable monitor sleep (or hibernate or whatever) after a specified amount of time in KDE 3.5.5?
[11:55] <milaks> I believe that in previous version there was an option where that could be disabled (Settings->Power Control), but now there is only Laptop Batter in which it writes: Your computer seems to have a partial ACPI installation. ACPI was probably enabled, but some of the sub-options were not - you need to enable at least 'AC Adaptor' and 'Control Method Battery' and then rebuild your kernel.
[11:55] <dheeraj_k> milaks: system setting >>display >>powersaving
[11:55] <Indans2> Hello
[11:56] <Eruantalon> No one else had any problems with mysql today?
[11:57] <milaks> dheeraj_k: I do not have Kubuntu but Ubuntu with KDE 3.5.5 so I do not have "system settings" menu nor submenu "
[11:57] <milaks> "
[11:57] <milaks> display"
[11:57] <Indans2> Can anybody help me with my network?
[11:58] <Eruantalon> Mine wont start. It complains that the bind address 3306 is alreaDY IN USE.  I am thinking that my recent power outtage messed up a lock file.
[11:58] <resmo> Indans2: sure, whats the problem
[11:58] <Indans2> I am using a Asus P5N32-SLI Premium Board
[11:59] <Indans2> Kubuntu detects the card correctly
[11:59] <milaks> I have "gnome-power-preferences" in which I've specifed to never go to sleep but it steel does.
[11:59] <Indans2> But it does not work properly. I cannot configure it via DHCP (i know that the wire is alright and so on because it works in XP)
[11:59] <Indans2> And if I use a static setup and try to ping my router it says "Host unreachable"
[12:00] <Indans2> In the setup (alteranative CD) I experienced the same problems.
[12:00] <milaks> Anyone
[12:00] <milaks> ?
[12:00] <Indans2> What can this be?
[12:01] <tenco> xine doesnt find a demultiplexer for ogg
[12:01] <resmo> Indans2: edgy?
[12:02] <Indans2> Yes.
[12:02] <resmo> Indans2: if u do a dhcpd eth0 what happens?
[12:02] <dheeraj_k> gnome-power-preferences is for gnome desktop i may not work in kde
[12:02] <Indans2> Well, if I do ifdown eth0, ifup eth0
[12:03] <Indans2> It says "DHCPDISCOVER" or something like that.
[12:03] <Indans2> It says this a few times, each time with a different "interval"
[12:04] <Indans2> And finally it says that it did not work (Sorry, I would have to reboot again, to write down the exact output)
[12:04] <mildner> please send me the german link
[12:04] <Ayabara> is kpowersave the app I should use for power management in kubuntu. can't find any real powermanagement in the packages that come with the default install
[12:04] <Indans2> I did not experience any problems when I used Breezy.
[12:06] <Mlcloud> Argh! kmenu->system settings->network settings->network connections shows nothing. lshw and lspci list my network card
[12:06] <Mlcloud> but the network connections itself doesn't liste anything!
[12:06] <Mlcloud> Someone had suggested a modprobe, and another said this command might've helped "sudo modprobe -v pci_hotplug"
[12:06] <Mlcloud> but uh... nothing happened. so I'm stuck - what might be the problem?
[12:07] <mildner> does anybody know how I start Sawfish?
[12:08] <llutz> Indans2:try as root "ifdown eth0"   then "ifconfig eth0 up" followed by "dhclient eth0"
[12:09] <Indans2> Okay. I will try that and write down what happens. Thanks llutz. Cya later
[12:14] <ubuntu4> !grub
[12:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:17] <tenco> dheeraj_k: i deleted ~/.xine
[12:17] <tenco> dheeraj_k: works now
[12:17] <zorglu_> !info libglib2.0-dev
[12:17] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.12.4-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 520 kB, installed size 2052 kB
[12:18] <zorglu_> hmm any way to get the info for dapper ?
[12:18] <zorglu_> im trying to install glib2.0-dev on a computer but got a broken package
[12:19] <Indans2> re
[12:21] <Indans2> llutz?
[12:21] <llutz> Indans2: ?
[12:21] <mildner> does anybody know the german IRC
[12:21] <Indans2> It says no DHCPOFFERS
[12:21] <llutz> Indans2: sure you have a dhcp-server running in your net?
[12:22] <Indans2> Yes. I have also WinXP installed. There the network connection uses DHCP and everything works.
[12:22] <Indans2> That's why I am so puzzled.
[12:23] <seven__> mildner: #kubuntu-de
[12:24] <Indans2> I've found this: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=71148
[12:24] <llutz> Indans2: do you know the dhcp-servers ip.ad? try "dhclient -s <server.ip> eth0"
[12:24] <Indans2> This is very much what I am experiencing
[12:24] <tenco> dheeraj_k: but thanks anyway :)
[12:24] <Indans2> Except that the ARP part does not work either.
[12:25] <tenco> mildner: #kubuntu-de
[12:26] <Indans2> But this was about 2.6.15 and Edgy already uses 2.6.17, doesn't it?
[12:27] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to flush the database obtained by apt-get update ? i got some weird result
[12:28] <_kuja_> apt-get clean
[12:28] <zorglu_> _kuja_: this doesnt do it
[12:29] <_kuja_> then do another apt-get update
[12:29] <_kuja_> might help
[12:29] <_kuja_> if it's giving you really weird results more than once, change mirrors
[12:29] <zorglu_> it keeps the database and apt-get update is no reget from the repositories
[12:29] <zorglu_> ok trying
[12:30] <zorglu_> but if my local database is corrupted, .. i have to find a way to flush it
[12:30] <_kuja_> while you try that, I'll look
[12:31] <zorglu_> i use archive.ubuntu.com now
[12:31] <zorglu_> sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev -> "libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed"
[12:32] <_kuja_> Hmmm
[12:32] <zorglu_> dpkg -l libglib2.0-0 -> "ii  libglib2.0-0    2.10.3-0ubuntu1"
[12:32] <_kuja_> are you using dapper or edgy?
[12:32] <zorglu_> dapper
[12:32] <Indans2> llutz?  I guess this guy here has the same problem... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303317
[12:33] <llutz> Indans2: seems to be a kernel/driver-problem, sry no idea about that
[12:33] <zorglu_> _kuja_: what disturb me if the apt-get install libglib2.0-dev want the 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 and i got it already installed
[12:33] <Indans2> So the only thing I can do is wait for an update?
[12:34] <_kuja_> Conflicting versions, the dev package wants the regular package to be _exactly_ the same version
[12:34] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: got beryl installed?
[12:34] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: nope, why ?
[12:34] <Indans2> Well...I guess so. That's a pity...thank you nevertheless.
[12:35] <zorglu_>  *** 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 0
[12:35] <zorglu_>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Packages
[12:35] <zorglu_> there ! :)
[12:35] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: just looked like the libglib2.0-0 was screwed
[12:36] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: i think i got it the 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 0 version is in dapper-updates and not in dapper
[12:36] <Hobbsee> !info libglib2.0-dev dapper
[12:36] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 485 kB, installed size 1948 kB
[12:36] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: can you apt-cache policy libglib2.0-dev please?
[12:36] <_kuja_> both should be 2.10.2
[12:36] <zorglu_> apt-cache policy libglib2.0-dev
[12:36] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: it give the result i already pasted
[12:37] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: the one from which i deduced the stuff
[12:37] <Hobbsee> wha?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> so where's it getting 0ubutnu3 from?
[12:37] <_kuja_> what I would do, assuming this won't cause large problems: download the 2.10.2 from the dapper main repository, dpkg --install --force  to install the old version
[12:38] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: ok i will do a pastebin :)
[12:38] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[12:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:38] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: that'd be helpful.
[12:38] <zorglu_> hmm this one doesnt works
[12:38] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: pastebin the policy of both ones
[12:38] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: use pastebin.ca
[12:38] <zorglu_> any other pastebin uurl offhand ?
[12:38] <zorglu_> ok
[12:38] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: and the update error, i guess
[12:39] <caine> hello i have big problem with my kubuntu im run apt-get dist-upgrade all packages success and installed but after reboot x dont start and lot of module not working  sorry for bad language
[12:39] <zorglu_> http://pastebin.ca/258308
[12:40] <tbe> Woops hehe
[12:40] <zorglu_> http://pastebin.ca/258309
[12:40] <_kuja_> caine, is the network connection still up?
[12:40] <zorglu_> http://pastebin.ca/258310
[12:41] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: now that's....interesting
[12:41] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: here are the 3things, the install faillure and the 2 policy
[12:41] <caine> _kuja_, nope network card not working
[12:41] <tbe> I've got two questions... first is there any way I can change the Edgy boot screen to see what its doing, and the second is I'm using Beryl but it doesn't add its icon to my panel so when it crashes I have to restart X instead of just reloading... anyone know how to make it add its icon to the panel?
[12:41] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: yep, tahnks :)
[12:41] <_kuja_> caine, that makes things difficult
[12:42] <Hobbsee> tbe: remove "quiet" from /boot/grub/menu.lst for the appropriate menu entry (kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst), and ask in #beryl for beryl related stuff
[12:42] <tbe> Oh my god, it's as easy as that? Hahaha I feel like a tool, never even considered it would be grub
[12:42] <tbe> But thanks :D
[12:43] <caine> _kuja_, yep trying network card module but i dont remember card moule :S
[12:43] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: im not sure there is a bug in the packages, because the 2 lib in 'dapper' are  2.10.2-1ubuntu3 0
[12:43] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: now that's...odd...
[12:43] <Hobbsee> yeah
[12:43] <zorglu_> and the two in 'dapper-update' are 2.10.3-0ubuntu1
[12:44] <_kuja_> if apt is giving you trouble with it, just download the two and install them with dpkg.... shouldn't give you any trouble.
[12:44] <Hobbsee> ohhh...yes, i see...
[12:45] <zorglu_> i think i played too much with repositories, it looks like my libglib-2.0 for install previously from 'dapper update' but now 'dapper-update' is nomore in the sources.list hence the bug
[12:45] <_kuja_> caine... none of it will be very easy to fix, might be easiest to download the cd..
[12:45] <_kuja_> heh, that would do it
[12:46] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: yes.  add it back.
[12:46] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: you want it in there anyway
[12:46] <caine> yeah it sucks thanks for info
[12:47] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: your apt-cache appears to be fine, it's just that you've removed that repository before you got a later version of the app.
[12:47] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: ok i works. thanks for the help
[12:47] <caine> anyone know realtek 8139 module name
[12:47] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: not a problem.  do you know how to fix it?
[12:47] <zorglu_> Hobbsee: i just added 'dapper-update' in the soruces.list and it did the job
[12:48] <Hobbsee> zorglu_: cool :)
[12:48] <zorglu_> :)
[12:49] <zorglu_> here we go, i set up nfs and all the package to recompile my apps :)
[12:50] <guiden> what should I do if krita doens't do as I want it to do?
[12:51] <_kuja_> threaten it with a hammer?
[12:52] <guiden> :)
[12:52] <guiden> is it easy to program a painting program?
[12:52] <guiden> a simple one
[12:53] <llutz> guiden: ask the gimp-devs :)
[12:53] <_kuja_> Define simple.
[12:53] <joe3k> :)
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> guiden: install GIMP :)
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> guys, I need to change the framebuffer's resolution WITHOUT rebooting. I seem to remembger there was some command for it, but I cannot recall it's name
[12:54] <lidia> wow
[12:54] <win_x_prts> guiden, drawing program inkscape
[12:54] <guiden> But the thing is that when I "draw a line" in krita, I don't see how the line is going to be, I only see a gray thin line
[12:54] <fdoving> rysiek|pl: check out fbset.
[12:54] <guiden> but Im into pixel arting
[12:54] <guiden> I only need to draw pixels
[12:54] <rysiek|pl> fdoving: fbset, right, that was it! :)
[12:54] <guiden> no fancy
[12:55] <guiden> like mspaint
[12:55] <_kuja_> Try Kolourpaint? it's a dirt simple paint program
[12:55] <guiden> ok
[12:55] <win_x_prts> pixel is good too you have to pay for but very good
[12:55] <rhkfin> guiden: how about scribus?
[12:55] <guiden> ok I'll try them, thanks
[12:55] <win_x_prts> thats for desktop publishing
[12:56] <joe3k> i thought scributs was more for vecor stuff
[12:56] <rhkfin> true.. sorry.. what was the vector drawing program..?
[12:56] <joe3k> inkscape? :)
[12:56] <nuxil> hi all
[12:56] <Jucato> inkscape
[12:57] <nuxil> how do i upgrade from dapper to edgy ? apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[12:57] <b0ng0> hi im having trouble changing my keyboard from US to UK, can someone help plz?
[12:57] <joe3k> ahh ahh the brave one :)
[12:57] <rhkfin> inkscape, that's what I meant..
[12:57] <joe3k> nuxil: if you're lucky you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade
[12:57] <_kuja_> nuxil; yes.... run it more than once though, make sure nothing is left out!
[12:57] <Jucato> !upgrade | nuxil
[12:57] <ubotu> nuxil: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[12:57] <nuxil> changer dapper to edgy and hope for the best
[12:58] <Jucato> not as simple as that
[12:58] <Jucato> follow that guide over there
[12:58] <nuxil> i will
[12:58] <joe3k> if you get past step 4 you're almost lucky
[12:59] <win_x_prts> http://www.kanzelsberger.com/pixel/?page_id=50
[12:59] <nuxil> heh..
[12:59] <_kuja_> Seeing as you're basically redownloading just about everything, you're practically better off downloading the iso image and burning it.
[01:00] <joe3k> _kuja_: can you upgrade from cd?
[01:00] <_kuja_> with the alternate cd, yes
[01:00] <tbe> Well I'm off to tinker... thanks for your help everyone :D
[01:00] <nuxil> well i want to keep my settings,, i dont want a fresh install
[01:01] <_kuja_> Best way to have preserved the abillity to do that would have been to put /home on a seperate partition, but no matter.
[01:01] <b0ng0> anyone know how to change keyboard regional settings?
[01:01] <joe3k> b0ng0: in the system settings
[01:01] <nuxil> _kuja_, is already is on a sep partition
[01:02] <_kuja_> then you should have little-nothing to worry about
[01:02] <joe3k> b0ng0: regional/language
[01:02] <joe3k> well there is /etc/ as well
[01:02] <nuxil> _kuja_, a crypted partition :)
[01:02] <_kuja_> neat0
[01:02] <benji> Bonjour tout le monde
[01:02] <benji> Hello all
[01:02] <_kuja_> Hello
[01:05] <guiden> I have a problem with the grid in kolourpain. I can see that it can show grids, but I can't enable it, the "show grid" text is gray instead of black.
[01:11] <guiden> never mind, I had to zoom in to 600% until I could use grids, wierd :p
[01:18] <Caine> _kuja_|away, u there?
[01:18] <ijacek> !cz
[01:18] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:19] <_kuja_|away> for the moment, yes, you caught me just in time though
[01:19] <trol> hi
[01:19] <trol> how I can chance icon in fire fox ??
[01:19] <Caine> _kuja_|away, now my network working
[01:19] <_kuja_|away> neato
[01:19] <_kuja_|away> how'd you do it?
[01:20] <Caine> _kuja_|away, im used dist-upgrade and my kubuntu after reboot dont workin x and lot of module not work
[01:21] <_kuja_|away> now that the networks running, re-run the dist-upgrade..... there are probably some things that didn't get installed.
[01:22] <Caine> hmm okey im try to run again thx for help cya
[01:25] <b0ng0> hey how do i login to irc so i can msg ppl
[01:25] <b0ng0> i have registered
[01:25] <_kuja_|away> ....b0ng0....... this is IRC
[01:26] <Jucato> !register | b0ng0
[01:26] <ubotu> b0ng0: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:27] <b0ng0> i have registered with /msg nickserv REGISTER uname  <password>
[01:27] <b0ng0> !register |b0ng0
[01:27] <ubotu> b0ng0: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:28] <Ajala> ciao a tutti
[01:31] <joe3k> b0ng0: so?
[01:35] <jann> hi. i'm using kubuntu (/ is one partition, /home another, and swap a third one) and i have a parallel win xp installation (own partition). besides that i have a fat partition to share and an older ubuntu installation (with a seperate swap partition). now i'd like to delete the ubuntu partition (and with it its swap partition) but i'm not sure which partition is used by which installation. is there a way to find out which one is used for /,
[01:35] <jann> /home, and swap by my running installation (kubuntu)?
[01:36] <Simian__> why does my /etc/hosts have nothing in it any more? it was supposed to say     127.0.0.1    localhost.localdomain     localhost
[01:37] <Morrissey> jann, df -h should give you wich HDA is mounted where
[01:37] <jann> cool
[01:38] <Morrissey> Simian__, whats your problem?
[01:38] <jann> and any hints how i best delete the ubuntu partitions? is there a kde program for that?
[01:38] <Morrissey> jann, you mean, format it to another filesystem or?
[01:39] <jann> yes
[01:39] <fdoving> you can use qtparted
[01:39] <Simian__> Morrissey: before i could edit /etc/hosts to include the url of my my website
[01:39] <fdoving> Simian__: you still can..
[01:39] <Morrissey> Simian__, cat /etc/hosts
[01:39] <guiden> I can't open adept, after I added a new repository. I just added this line http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt, but now I know I should add the whole line, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main. I can't open the adeot to change it, how do I do it manually?
[01:39] <jann> fdoving: does it have a graphical interface?
[01:39] <fdoving> jann: yes.
[01:40] <Morrissey> guiden, kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:40] <Morrissey> guiden, remember sudo :)
[01:40] <Jucato> kdesu actually
[01:40] <Simian__> fdoving: Morrissey but now all it says is   # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[01:40] <Morrissey> Jucato, sudo will work as well :)
[01:40] <Morrissey> Simian__, have you tried adding your url?
[01:41] <Jucato> Morrissey: for graphical apps, use kdesu
[01:41] <Simian__> Morrissey: i will try
[01:41] <guiden> Ok
[01:41] <Morrissey> Jucato, whats the difference sort of speak? It will open on display 0 anyways
[01:42] <Jucato> !kdesu | Morrissey
[01:42] <ubotu> Morrissey: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:42] <Morrissey> oh, I didnt know that :) Lucky for me nothings gone wrong so far
[01:42] <Simian__> Morrissey: you see when i enter the url into a browser it just points to my router
[01:42] <Morrissey> hopefully
[01:42] <jann> Morrissey, fdoving: i have two swaps (one for ubuntu one for kubuntu). how do i know which one's which?
[01:42] <Jucato> it's a hit or miss thing. some are lucky :)
[01:43] <Morrissey> Simian__, really ..
[01:43] <fdoving> jann: check /etc/fstab
[01:43] <Morrissey> Simian__, hm .. what did you do to your hosts file then?
[01:43] <Morrissey> it should state: ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback <-- and some more
[01:44] <fdoving> jann: you can also run: dmesg | grep 'swap on'
[01:44] <Simian__> before it used to say   127.0.0.1   localhos.localdomain    benward.dyndns.org
[01:44] <Morrissey> Simian__, ok, then you could just edit your hosts back (if that worked for you before)
[01:44] <Simian__> Morrissey: but now it's been changed in edgy i think
[01:45] <Morrissey> Simian__, back up your hosts file, and try adding your older line .. dont think edgy changed that
[01:45] <Simian__> Morrissey: ok, i'll try
[01:45] <fdoving> jann: and there is 'blkid' (probably the best option)
[01:46] <jann> fdoving: thanks. so if in /etc/fstab there is one swap listed, thats the one i'm using right now, right?
[01:47] <fdoving> jann: correct, see the output of 'blkid' it's more understandable.
[01:47] <guiden> I want to install wine, but I only have these
[01:47] <guiden> guiden@guiden-desktop:~$ apt-cache search wine
[01:47] <guiden> kftpgrabber - KDE FTP client
[01:47] <guiden> libwine - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package)
[01:47] <guiden> libwine-dev - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Dummy Package)
[01:47] <guiden> tellico - collection manager for books, videos, music
[01:47] <guiden> tellico-data - collection manager for books, videos, music [data] 
[01:47] <guiden> winefish - LaTeX Editor based on Bluefish
[01:47] <fdoving> !info wine | guiden
[01:47] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[01:47] <jann> fdoving: blkid lists both swaps
[01:47] <fdoving> !repos | guiden
[01:48] <ubotu> guiden: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:48] <fdoving> jann: ok, then you're using the one listed in /etc/fstab
[01:48] <jann> ok, thanks a lot!
[01:52] <guiden> fdoving: I have done everything, added the repository and all
[01:53] <guiden> I have also enabled every repository in the source file
[01:53] <Hobbsee> !xen
[01:53] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[01:54] <fdoving> guiden: did you 'fetch updates'?
[01:56] <guiden> yes
[01:57] <fdoving> guiden: are you on some other arch than i386?
[01:57] <guiden> yes
[01:58] <guiden> amd 64
[01:58] <guiden> is it masked?
[01:58] <teflon> hi
[01:59] <teflon> I am going to try installing kubuntu dapper along next to my edgy installation of kubuntu, can I safely resize the partitions or is there a risk?
[02:00] <Morrissey> teflon, resizing is always a risk .. I would google it first
[02:00] <Morrissey> 4-5 years ago when I last did it it screwed my filesystem
[02:00] <teflon> I figured it was fairly safe as it was a default option
[02:00] <teflon> ok
[02:01] <teflon> I'll just back my stuff up first then
[02:01] <Morrissey> as allways
[02:01] <teflon> you see a few pieces of my hardware don't work well in edgy, so I want to maybe revert back to dapper for better compatibility
[02:01] <guiden> fdoving: Can't I run i386 programs?
[02:01] <teflon> ok thanks a lot
[02:02] <nuxil> how can i ping $(NAME-OF-PC-ON-LAN) instead of ping $(IP-OF-OF-ON-LAN) ???
[02:02] <nuxil> erm
[02:02] <nuxil> **ping $(IP-OF-PC-ON-LAN)
[02:02] <teflon> put an entry in your hosts file?
[02:03] <nuxil> what you mean?  /etc/hosts
[02:05] <nuxil> i got
[02:05] <nuxil> 127.0.0.1       localhost
[02:05] <nagyv> Is there a way to get links working in pdf files using kpdf?
[02:05] <nuxil> that file
[02:05] <nuxil> shall i ip
[02:05] <fdoving> guiden: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64
[02:05] <nuxil> IP-of-lan-pc                    name-of lan-pc ?
[02:05] <fdoving> yes.
[02:06] <nuxil> what if its uses dhcp ?
[02:06] <nuxil> no static ip
[02:07] <qkr> I want to access MySQL from Java program but it doesn't work. I have installed libmysql-java in Adept Manager. Can anyone help?
[02:08] <teflon> nuxil you should be able to assign the computer a static ip from your router
[02:08] <jann> is it important if i'm using logical partitions in an extended partition or primary partitions?
[02:08] <guiden> thank you fdoving
[02:08] <nuxil> teflon, well.. dhcp in this issue.. so how can i do it when used dhcp
[02:09] <teflon> well you tell the router to use dhcp but assign certain computers the same ip every time
[02:09] <teflon> it's the setup I have
[02:10] <teflon> or you could try telling the computer you want to give a static ip to, to always ask for the same one
[02:10] <teflon> I don't know how to do that in linux though
[02:10] <teflon> only windows
[02:10] <teflon> :(
[02:11] <Caine> hello all im used dist-upgrade and after reboot x dont start here is the error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34122/
[02:12] <Caine> anyone help me about this problem?
[02:12] <eleni> !list
[02:12] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:13] <Caine> hello all im used dist-upgrade and after reboot x dont start here is the error log http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34122/
[02:15] <teflon> caine, your problem is a common one, I had it too, my only option was to reformat, sorry I can't help you out, I'm still very new to linux
[02:16] <robotgeek> Caine: no, there has to be a better way.
[02:16] <robotgeek> Caine: which video card do you have?
[02:17] <Caine> robotgeek, ati radeon 9200se
[02:19] <robotgeek> Caine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:19] <jann> can anybody tell me if its possible to convert a couple of logical partitions at the end of a primary partition to a new, seperate primary partition?
[02:19] <Caine> robotgeek, im tried this thing but still same problem
[02:20] <robotgeek> Caine: try the vesa driver
[02:20] <Caine> hmm ok i will try cya
[02:20] <Horst> Ubuntu rulz
[02:27] <llwyd> How do you type the occaisional foriegn letter, I am using an American keyboard
[02:27] <llwyd> I thought there was some key like the Windows key I have used on other distros....
[02:28] <robotgeek> llwyd: there should be, i think the details are in the Desktop Guide.
[02:28] <robotgeek> also look at K-Menu- System Settings -> Regional and Accessibility
[02:29] <Horst> which plugin is with liquid weather a must have for superkaramba?
[02:29] <llwyd> I looked in the kmenu, am looking in the Desktop Guide now
[02:29] <chupa-chups> hey somebody help me i have a problim in my pc
[02:30] <guiden> fdoving: I tried to install it with the script, But I had no lib32.
[02:31] <llwyd> Still groping in the dark on this keyboard issue...
[02:32] <robotgeek> llwyd: hmm, sorry i dont really know
[02:32] <chupa-chups> #c while trying to install linux in my pc and AT the step of manually creating the drives i found my hard disk one partition of 160gb ( my hd is 160 gb and 4 partitions + unallocated area ) so what is going on
[02:33] <chupa-chups>  can any one help me solve this problim
[02:34] <robotgeek> chupa-chups: hmm, be very careful :)
[02:34] <chupa-chups> %c4 why
[02:35] <guiden> Is anyone here also using gentoo?
[02:35] <robotgeek> guiden: unlikely
[02:35] <chupa-chups>  why robotgeek
[02:35] <robotgeek> chupa-chups: cuase you dont want ot lose data, cause you say there were supposed to be 4 partitions
[02:35] <guiden> ok :)
[02:35] <chupa-chups>  did u get my problim
[02:36] <robotgeek> chupa-chups: i understand, but you say that you know that there are 4 partitions.
[02:37] <chupa-chups>  when i use winows i find my 4 partitions but while trying to install kubuntu i found that , this is the first time to me to face that error although i installed it one time and succeded
[02:38] <znapper> anyone know which package kuickshow is in?
[02:38] <llwyd> rootgeek: Thanks I tried for the 20th time to poke around in the keyboard layout window. It now works how I want.
[02:38] <robotgeek> llwyd: heh, okay :)
[02:38] <r3`daipizz> salve
[02:38] <robotgeek> chupa-chups: where, in disk management?
[02:38] <chupa-chups>  look i will tell u
[02:39] <r3`daipizz> tnt2  video card compatible with ubuntu ?
[02:39] <chupa-chups>  i already had win xp and kubuntu , but for some reason i had to reinstall win so i had to reinstall linux after that
[02:39] <b0ng0> i have 102 process's running, is this normal for edgy 6.10?
[02:39] <llwyd> I checked a box on the third tab, "Xkb options", labeled "Right-Winkey is compose"
[02:40] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, no you dont .. you could use a live-cd to write a new MBR for dual boot
[02:40] <guiden> guiden@guiden-desktop:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg --force-architecture -i wine_0.9.25~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-1_i386.deb
[02:40] <guiden> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:40] <Morrissey> guiden, make sure adept is closed before trying that
[02:40] <chupa-chups>  i tried to erase the 2 drives of linux using disk management but faild so i used partition magic to erase them
[02:41] <chupa-chups>  then i have 30gb unallocated area beside the 4 partitions , but he cant read them all
[02:41] <robotgeek> chupa-chups: i would also do what Morrissey says , it is easier
[02:41] <chupa-chups> he just read sda1 of 160gb
[02:41] <chupa-chups> so what is the problim ????
[02:42] <chupa-chups>  look iam a new user i just learned to install and some commands
[02:42] <robotgeek> chupa-chups: i am not sure, that has to be the weirdest thing i have seen
[02:42] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, whats your problem? :)
[02:42] <Morrissey> !ask
[02:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:43] <chupa-chups>  ok i will say again
[02:43] <bluechild> hello, i just installed kubuntu, but grub did not recognize my windows partition ... it's the first time this happens. Any idea on what has happened ?
[02:44] <chupa-chups>  while trying to install linux in my pc and AT the step of manually creating the drives i found my hard disk one partition of 160gb ( my hd is 160 gb and 4 partitions + unallocated area ) so what is going on
[02:44] <chupa-chups>  when i use winows i find my 4 partitions but while trying to install kubuntu i found that , this is the first time to me to face that error although i installed it one time and succeded
[02:45] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, that makes no sence ... did the kubuntu installer give you a hda? or a hda1 as 160gb?
[02:45] <Morrissey> or sda or whatever
[02:45] <chupa-chups>  i already had win xp and kubuntu , but for some reason i had to reinstall win so i had to reinstall linux after that
[02:45] <chupa-chups>  i tried to erase the 2 drives of linux using disk management but faild so i used partition magic to erase them
[02:45] <chupa-chups>  then i have 30gb unallocated area beside the 4 partitions , but he cant read them all
[02:45] <chupa-chups> he just read sda1 of 160gb
[02:46] <robotgeek> does sata show up as sda, too?
[02:46] <elias>  I have installed beryl and the kernel with the latest nvidia drivers. Now every time I reboot vmware is telling me to run the config script again.
[02:46] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, I have never seen that before .. you dont have a external drive or something wich he's reading from ?
 i have sata desk so he read it as sda
[02:47] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, I can see that ... but the installer is reading it as Sda_1_ ? or just sda?
[02:47] <chupa-chups> ok but the problim is why doesnt he read the desk as 4  partitions +unallocated area
[02:47] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, dont know, it should
[02:47] <chupa-chups> wait iam using live cd and i will try then tell u
[02:48] <Morrissey> that should matter, but try it anyway :)
[02:48] <arafat> !ape
[02:48] <Morrissey> shouldnt*
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <robotgeek> Morrissey: do you know if sata shows up as sdx? i know all usb's do
[02:49] <Morrissey> robotgeek, never used sata. But I recon it would show up as sda1, sda2 +++ ..
[02:49] <Morrissey> as of sda are your entire SATA
[02:49] <larson9999> do quotes like this that kinda pass over the linux part of stuff bother you guys?  or is it just me?  [Adam]  pointed at that someone already has XP running on a friggin PS3. [via emulation under linux] 
[02:50] <robotgeek> larson9999: no, isn't that all part of the freedom linux gives you?
[02:50] <chupa-chups>  hey its magi
[02:50] <chupa-chups>  hey its magic
[02:50] <robotgeek> however, all that is better discussed in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:50] <chupa-chups>  finally he read them all
[02:50] <larson9999> robotgeek, i suppose.
[02:50] <chupa-chups>  it seem to be that i should wait sometime be4
[02:51] <chupa-chups>  yahooooooooooooooooooo
[02:51] <chupa-chups> thank u morrissey
[02:51] <chupa-chups>  thank u morrissey very much
[02:52] <Morrissey> oh, in that case :) np chicken_Fire
[02:52] <Morrissey> chupa-chups,
[02:55] <fumanchu> hola
[02:56] <fumanchu> hola
[02:56] <guiden> im installing a pokerclient for windows with wine (http://www.heypoker.com/v2/?page=2)  but I can't read anything, the installer is wierd, all I can see is the buttons
[02:56] <fumanchu> hello
[02:56] <caine> hi all
[02:56] <fumanchu> hi
[02:56] <fumanchu> how old are you?
[02:57] <Morrissey> Is it hard to change VGA on a laptop?
[02:57] <Morrissey> ASL?
[02:57] <caine> my panel doesnt start in kde anyone idea this prob ?
[02:57] <fumanchu> plis?
[02:57] <Morrissey> guiden, some poker clients work, some dont (with wine)
[02:57] <fumanchu> I'm spanish
[02:57] <robotgeek> !es
[02:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:57] <fumanchu> pepe
[02:58] <guiden> ok
[02:58] <guiden> but where should I put the files?
[02:58] <fumanchu> ok again
[02:58] <caine> robotgeek: hi im fixed driver problem but this time X start im login with my user but kde panel doesnt start
[02:58] <fumanchu> I'm twenty
[02:58] <robotgeek> caine: trying to see what the app is
[02:58] <guiden> i can't put them on c:/program-files
[02:58] <guiden> lol
[02:58] <Morrissey> fumanchu, what are you wearing?
[02:59] <caine> what ?
[02:59] <robotgeek> please keep discussion ontopic
[02:59] <Morrissey> please, this channel is stiff enough as it is :)
[02:59] <fumanchu> I'm spanish
[02:59] <robotgeek> Morrissey: there is #kubuntu-offtopic for all the talk
[02:59] <Jucato> we do have rules
[02:59] <Morrissey> robotgeek, oh, really? sweet :)
[03:00] <caine> can i remove kde with aptget? and re install is it possible ?
[03:00] <robotgeek> caine: does alt + f2 bring up anything?
[03:00] <caine> coming run prg
[03:00] <Morrissey> caine, um ... why would you reinstall it?
[03:00] <fumanchu> pepe... :-)
[03:00] <caine> panel doesnt working
[03:01] <Morrissey> caine, kde uses settings from your ~/.kde folder ... reinstalling kde wont do anything
[03:01] <caine> robotgeek: alt+f2 giving run prog tool
[03:01] <Jucato> what do you mean by "not working"?
[03:01] <robotgeek> caine: try running kpanel, in there
[03:01] <Morrissey> caine, I would add a new user, log on X and see if hes getting a panel .. then we would know if its global or not
[03:01] <caine> im try other user still same panel unseen
[03:02] <caine> i think its global :S
[03:02] <caine> ls
[03:02] <Morrissey> caine, then it is, yes
[03:02] <guiden> can I discuss about wine? I'm trying to get it to work in kubuntu after all
[03:02] <robotgeek> guiden: sure
[03:03] <Jucato> robotgeek: btw, shouldn't kpanel be "kicker"?
[03:03] <caine> robotgeek: kpanel application not found
[03:03] <guiden> great :)
[03:03] <robotgeek> Jucato: yeah, i was trying to recall.
[03:03] <robotgeek> caine: kicker
[03:03] <robotgeek> thanks Jucato :)
[03:04] <caine> robotgeek: same thing now im trying apt-get install kicker
[03:04] <guiden> When I come to the point where I have to select where I want to install a program (heypoker client) then I'm not able to press next after typing /home/guiden/.wine as the destination folder
[03:05] <guiden> the "next" text is gray, instead of black
[03:05] <caine> Morrissey: im tried dist-upgrade my x crached network crashed :S i will fixed lot of problem but
[03:05] <guiden> I can't make /c://
[03:05] <caine> bu it hink i have lot of problem :D
[03:05] <Jucato> guiden: wine doesn't accept Linux notation
[03:06] <Morrissey> guiden, you should make it as windows would have .. c:/program files ....
[03:06] <robotgeek> caine: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop" :)
[03:06] <Jucato> er.. let's not be too drastic yet robotgeek
[03:06] <llwyd> What software/settings are needed to create a wireless access point?
[03:06] <robotgeek> Jucato: he just upgraded, all the debs will still be there. plus, i think that command doesn't do anything.
[03:07] <caine> robotgeek: ok started install now
[03:07] <robotgeek> as removing kubuntu-desktop will do nothing, duh!
[03:07] <Jucato> ah. just upgraded to edgy?
[03:07] <Jucato> caine: you can't see kicker? can you check if it's running? Press Ctrl+Esc and check if it's in the list
[03:07] <chupa-chups> hi all
[03:07] <chupa-chups> i wann games
[03:07] <Morrissey> caine, is there any packages left for upgrade when you do a "sudo apt-get upgrade" or "sudo apt-get distr-upgrade"?
[03:07] <chupa-chups> how to find games under linux
[03:08] <Morrissey> dist-upgrade even
[03:08] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, what? :) hehe ..
[03:08] <caine> no dont have any packe Morrissey
[03:08] <Morrissey> caine, and you did a full "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[03:08] <caine> Jucato: yes only kde panel not working
[03:08] <caine> yep Morrissey
[03:08] <llwyd> I checked into knetworkmanager among others (to create an access point) but no success.
[03:08] <Jucato> caine: kicker *is* the kde panel. so I'm presuming that kicker is in the list? which means that it's installed and running
[03:08] <Morrissey> chupa-chups, google it?
[03:09] <Jucato> caine: the list in the ProcessTable (Ctrl+Esc)
[03:09] <caine> Jucato: kicker not in the list
[03:10] <Morrissey> caine, type: kicker
[03:10] <Jucato> caine: ok, while the ProcessTable window is still open, press Alt+F2 and type in "kicker". check if kicker appears in the Table
[03:11] <Jucato> hm... caine, better yet, do this. Press Alt+F2, type in "konsole". then in the command line, type in "kicker"
[03:11] <caine> im typed but gives not found error end still nothing chane in process list
[03:12] <Morrissey> what? caine: Have you done a "sudo apt-get install kicker" ?
[03:12] <seasonaaa> how can i send mail using cron
[03:12] <caine> kicker: cannot connect to X server :0
[03:12] <caine> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Registering failed!
[03:12] <caine> ERROR: Communication problem with kicker, it probably crashed
[03:12] <Jucato> ah.. hm...
[03:12] <caine> Morrissey: yea im installed
[03:13] <nagyv> is there a way to use an 'open file' dialog right from the desktop? the dialog available with Ctrl+O in applications (katapult is not useful if I do not know the exact filename)
[03:13] <nagyv> acrtually I would prefer to just click Ctrl+O, and then open any file I want
[03:14] <seasonaaa> how can i send mail using cron
[03:15] <caine> anyone have still idea? Jucato, robotgeek, Morrissey
[03:15] <Morrissey> caine, wait up
[03:15] <caine> okey
[03:15] <Jucato> caine: try "sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker". once it's finished, Alt+F2, "kicker"
[03:15] <caine> ok im trying
[03:17] <pip> what does "tz-brasil"  mean ?
[03:18] <qkr> I edited my .bash_profile but it's not update when I start console? How to fix it?
[03:18] <caine> nope still same im trying run from konsole sudo kicker appear on proccess list bur disapear 1-2 sec later
[03:19] <xwolf-> caine no kde errors/crashes?
[03:19] <Jucato> caine: no. don't use "sudo kicker"
[03:19] <Jucato> just "kicker"
[03:19] <robotgeek> qkr: hmm, .bashrc does not work?
[03:19] <caine> oh im so stupid :S
[03:20] <BluesKaj> Hiya Jucato , I lost my login page in kde ... I chose the wrong option and now all i get is a black scrn and the mouse pointer ...tried kdm reconf , kde update etc , but no luck ...I'm running in an irssi shell right now so can run commands to fix this
[03:20] <caine> kicker working now! tanks all!
[03:20] <Morrissey> hehe
[03:20] <Morrissey> :)
[03:20] <caine> :)
[03:20] <Jucato> caine: um... did you run it from Konsole?
[03:20] <qkr> hey guys?
[03:20] <caine> yeah Jucato
[03:20] <linux_> a program to capture movies
[03:20] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what wrong option and where?
[03:20] <linux_> ?
[03:20] <qkr> robotgeek what is .bashrc?
[03:20] <Jucato> caine: ok, um.. if you close Konsole, kicker might disappear
[03:21] <caine> oh yes :D im try re login ?
[03:21] <Jucato> caine: try that. if kicker disappears, press Alt+F2 then type in "kicker" (don't use sudo)
[03:21] <seasonaaa> how can i send mail using cron?????????????????????????????
[03:21] <BluesKaj> on the login page at startup ...sorry don't remember the option, Jucato
[03:21] <caine> oh Jucato not dissaper kicker
[03:21] <Jucato> BluesKaj: even after you reboot?
[03:22] <caine> thanks for all Jucato
[03:22] <seasonaaa> ??????????????????????????????????????????????
[03:23] <robotgeek> seasonaaa: please dont do that
[03:23] <seasonaaa> why
[03:23] <BluesKaj> yes, startx gives the "Fatal server error: Server is already active for display 0 ".. Jucato
[03:23] <Jucato> it's considered rude in IRC
[03:23] <robotgeek> seasonaaa: i meant the questions marks and stuff
[03:24] <seasonaaa> i'm asking
[03:24] <robotgeek> seasonaaa: anyways, the tougher part is to get smtp configured to relay email and stuff
[03:24] <robotgeek> seasonaaa: setting up the cronjob is easy
[03:25] <seasonaaa> robotgeek: thanks
[03:25] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hm...
[03:26] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I'm a bit clueless as to what could have happened... :(
[03:26] <klerfayt> Is there a wiki page there discussion about next kubuntu is happening/can be followed?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> Jucato: it says:if this server is no longer running remove /tmp/.X0-lock ...I tried that but no luck , unless my commands are wrong
[03:29] <pip>  what does "exec gnome-session" mean ? if I want to change it for kubuntu ,what should I change ?
[03:30] <Silvia> !nvidia
[03:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:30] <Silvia> thanks
[03:30] <xwolf-> hehe
[03:31] <excitatory> pip: don't quote me, but i think 'exec startkde' is the equivalent.
[03:32] <xwolf-> !kdm
[03:33] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 611 kB, installed size 1480 kB
[03:33] <xwolf-> !kdmrc
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdmrc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <xwolf-> yeah. but editing kdmrc still doesnt work.
[03:35] <pip> excitatory: no,i didn't,I am installing beryl
[03:35] <pip> thanks
[03:35] <BluesKaj> exec startkde ...'running shutdown scripts , unable to open display"... any ideas ?
[03:36] <guiden> Maybe this isn't a kubuntu questions but, does anyone programme games here?
[03:36] <Morrissey> BluesKaj, check you xorg.cinf
[03:36] <Morrissey> BluesKaj, check you xorg.conf
[03:36] <Morrissey> guiden, wich type of games?
[03:36] <guiden> like nintendo 8 bit games
[03:36] <pip> BluesKaj: beryl stuff ?
[03:36] <guiden> simple games
[03:36] <BluesKaj> Morrissey: I'm running in a shell anable to access kde gui
[03:36] <pip> OK
[03:36] <BluesKaj> unable
[03:36] <guiden> What language should I programme in?
[03:37] <Morrissey> BluesKaj, yeah ... cat /var/log/Xorg.0.conf and tell me the (EE) (errors)
[03:37] <Morrissey> guiden, java :P
[03:37] <guiden> Do they use vector graphic?
[03:37] <Morrissey> nah, wich games do you want to make? like cellphone games?
[03:38] <guiden> It would be cool to make gameboy games or something
[03:39] <guiden> but no, for computer
[03:39] <guiden> s
[03:39] <BluesKaj> Morrissey: no such file or dir
[03:40] <xwolf-> BluesKaj Xorg.0.log
[03:40] <Morrissey> ya, sorry .log
[03:41] <xwolf-> damn. what file*s* do i have to edit to get kdm doing what i want it to?
[03:41] <xwolf-> it probably isnt just /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc because i have already edited that one
[03:42] <guiden> I dont really know how to make a game. I'm thining about making gif animation and then let the picture interact with other picture and animations. I don't know how to "glue" them all together
[03:42] <guiden> And to make the them move when I press a button
[03:43] <Morrissey> guiden, you should really get a book ... there are tons about just want you want
[03:43] <pip> hello,where is "Preferences " on kubuntu ?
[03:43] <guiden> Ok
[03:43] <xwolf-> pip it depends on what you want to configure
[03:44] <pip> Startup Programs
[03:44] <xwolf-> at boot?
[03:44] <pip> i dont know ,but I guess so
[03:44] <pip> : )
[03:44] <pip> I am just read a guidelines on page
[03:44] <pip> reading
[03:45] <BluesKaj> error opening /dev/wacom/..no such file or dir ...this message several times
[03:46] <BluesKaj> looks like some device drivers are wiped out, Morrissey
[03:46] <xwolf-> pip well, you can use update-rc.d
[03:46] <pip> what is that ?
[03:46] <xwolf-> but that's a shell command
[03:46] <xwolf-> off to lunch
[03:46] <xwolf-> cya all
[03:47] <pip> I think kubuntu must have prferences-like program
[03:47] <robotgeek> pip: K-Mneu -> System Settings
[03:48] <pip> robotgeek: and ?
[03:48] <BluesKaj> well maybe i need to do a reinstall ...looks like kDE is inaccessible for some reason
[03:49] <robotgeek> pip: okay, i dont know what you are trying to
[03:50] <pip> I want to edit Startup Programs
[03:50] <BluesKaj> it's just that it took so darn much work to get everything like printers, scanners, windows net connections , that i'd hate to have to do all that stuff over again , just cuz of one silly mistake :(
[03:50] <robotgeek> pip: hmm, startup as on kde startup? or on linux startup?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> kde startup
[03:51] <BluesKaj> here
[03:51] <pip> kde
[03:51] <llutz> BluesKaj: any backup of a working xorg.conf (/etc/X11)?
[03:52] <robotgeek> pip: the easiest way to do that is to startup all those programs and do K-Menu -> Save Session
[03:53] <pip> is there a savesession ?
[03:53] <robotgeek> pip: i think you might need to enable it from you users control panel
[03:54] <ds_> Hm
[03:54] <llutz> pip: just logout from kde once an relogin after. session should be saved then
[03:54] <BluesKaj> llutz: , it sees /etc/X11/ as adir
[03:54] <llutz> BluesKaj: sure, it is one
[03:54] <pip> OK
[03:54] <ds_> Is there any sort've...system restore utility?  I accidentally unmounted my NTFS, I think.   media/windows/ is empty, and I don't know why o_O
[03:54] <llutz> BluesKaj: is there any xorg.conf.old (or .1, .backup) in?
[03:55] <dmhouse> Hey guys. When I plug in my Sony Ericsson 750i it fails to mount. I get the 'A new medium has been detected' dialog, with the media being announced as 'Unmounted Removable Medium'.
[03:55] <dmhouse> However, clicking 'OK' fails to mount the medium. I can do this manually with 'sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /media/phone', but it's not being done automatically. Any ideas why not?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> dunno about backup /etc/X11/ ,llutz
[03:55] <ds_> Hmm
[03:56] <llutz> BluesKaj: what gives "ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*" back?
[04:01] <caine> anyone know Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) module name? my sound doesnt working
[04:01] <BluesKaj> llutz: -rw-r--r--1 root root 7269 2006-11-26 11:56 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:02] <llutz> BluesKaj:  bad luck no backup-file
[04:02] <BluesKaj> reinstall llutz  ?
[04:03] <llutz> BluesKaj: fix it,
[04:03] <llutz> !paste
[04:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:03] <BluesKaj> dunno how , that's why I'm here, llutz
[04:03] <llutz> BluesKaj: please paste your xorg.conf and the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:04] <BluesKaj> I can't i have no GUI acces
[04:04] <caine> anyone know  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) module name? my sound doesnt working
[04:05] <BluesKaj> i'm in  irssi shell at the altF1 option
[04:05] <llutz> BluesKaj: try "dpkg-reconfigure xorg"
[04:05] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:06] <llutz> ups,^^ sry
[04:10] <Flosoft> hey
[04:10] <Flosoft> does anyone know a good tool to rip DVD's?
[04:10] <Flosoft> into DivX
[04:10] <llutz> Flosoft: dvd::rip
[04:10] <Flosoft> ok ... let me rephrase: A tool to rip DVD's with a GUI?
[04:10] <BluesKaj> ahh.. Jucato , llutz  ..xserver.org is not installed
[04:11] <Jucato> O>o
[04:11] <Jucato> O.o
[04:11] <Jucato> xserver-xorg
[04:11] <llutz> Flosoft: dvd::rip
[04:11] <Jucato> that's a dash -
[04:12] <Flosoft> and it does DivX?
[04:13] <llutz> Flosoft: sure, maybe give "drip" a try
[04:13] <BluesKaj> Jucato: ??
[04:13] <Jucato> BluesKaj: it's "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" not "xserver.xorg"
[04:13] <llutz> bluszcz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    (not xserver.org)
[04:15] <BluesKaj> ok Jucato  thx
[04:16] <BluesKaj> xserver is not installed , Jucato
[04:17] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get install xserver-org
[04:17] <Jucato> BluesKaj: "xserver-xorg", not "xserver.org", not "xserver" only
[04:19] <caine> anyone know  VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) module name? my sound doesnt working
[04:20] <BluesKaj> xserver-org is not installed Jucato ..tried the dpkg -i command , but no luck
[04:20] <Jucato> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[04:22] <BluesKaj> Jucato: couldn't find pkg xserver-org
[04:23] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I'm presuming your "xserver-org" is just a typo?
[04:23] <defrysk> :D
[04:23] <Flosoft> ok .. I installed dvdrip
[04:23] <Flosoft> but I am missing Xine
[04:24] <Flosoft> for stdin player
[04:24] <BluesKaj> oops Jucato  ...it wasn't a typo ..xserver-xorg is the newest version
[04:26] <Jucato> BluesKaj: can you please double check your typing and type this command as it is, exactly and correctly: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:26] <BluesKaj> ok Jucato
[04:27] <BluesKaj> sorry i know it's frustrating when ppl don't do things precisely
[04:29] <jorik> http://itsoup.blogspot.com/2006/11/scam-of-indian-student-developing.html <--- anyone else has konqi crashin on that link ?
[04:30] <caine> my sound doesnt working anyone help me about this prob
[04:31] <Bubba_Gump> i am a shaman, magician
[04:32] <robotgeek> jorik: opens fine in konqueror on dapper
[04:32] <Jucato> jorik: opens fine on edgy, too
[04:32] <jorik> strange, should i post the backtrace somewhere ?
[04:32] <BluesKaj> ok Jucato m shuold i use"kernel frame bufferdevice interface" ...dunno what the default is there since my video card is an onboard type
[04:33] <defrysk> BluesKaj, just hit enter <default.
[04:33] <Jucato> BluesKaj: if you don't know the correct answer, just accept the defaults. (just press Enter)
[04:34] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:34] <jorik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34139/
[04:35] <dennister> hello all...has anyone here had any luck compiling programs from cvs versions? of course i'm still having probs with lirc on edgy, and the www.lirc.org site says we should be using the cvs version 8.1 for kernels > 2.6.17, but even mario's backports version is only 8.09
[04:36] <Morrissey> Can anyone please help me on how to install the latest drivers for ATI Radeon 9000 on edgy? I have "radeon" as my driver in xorg.conf now. In advance, thanks
[04:40] <_nightrid3r_> !ati
[04:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <dennister> !cvs
[04:40] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[04:45] <BluesKaj> EXIT
[04:45] <dennister> hey xsacha
[04:49] <Morrissey>  Hi, I want to use the absolutely latest "radeon" drivers for my ATI Radeon 9000 card. Im currently using the "radeon" drivers wich works ok with aixgl, but I want to get the lates drivers .. how do I do that?
[04:49] <Dimens> latets for 9000 is 8.28
[04:50] <abo> hi, can anyone help me, xchat says I'm banned on #ubuntu, can I know the reason?
[04:51] <hyper_ch> !ban
[04:51] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:51] <Dimens> latest version 8.35 doesn`t support 9000/9250 series
[04:53] <abo> hyper_ch, is it possible to get the ban lifted, and / or find out who did ban me?
[04:53] <abo> hyper_ch, I'm sure it's  a mistake
[04:53] <hyper_ch> abo: you should see who initiated the ban so you can query this person
[04:53] <abo> hyper_ch, how can I find out who banned me?
[04:55] <hyper_ch> abo: I don't see you on the ban list for #ubuntu
[04:56] <abo> hyper_ch, when I do /join #ubuntu I get * Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned).
[04:56] <agnustic> okay ... how do I disable the bouncing `feedback` mouse icon in Ubuntu
[04:56] <abo> is the ban actioned by IP or nick or something else?
[04:57] <hyper_ch> abo: can you enter #ubuntu?
[04:57] <abo> hyper_ch, no ... it says "* Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned)." when I do /join #ubuntu
[04:58] <robotgeek> abo: /j #ubuntu-ops
[04:58] <abo>  /j #ubuntu-ops
[04:58] <abo>  /join #ubuntu-ops
[04:58] <hyper_ch> abo: yes, I didn't check the whole hostmask... you were banned by seveas
[04:59] <hyper_ch> abo: and seveas normally has a reason when he bans someone
[04:59] <Morrissey> Anyone know how to upgrade to the latest redeon drivers??
[04:59] <abo> hyper_ch, Ok I'll check with him
[04:59] <erasam> pippo
[04:59] <pip> anyone who has implemented BERYL ?
[05:00] <hyper_ch> pip: nope, beryl doesn't work on the nvidia legacy drivers :(
[05:02] <Launchpad-Lap> does anyone here use fuse?
[05:05] <wildchild> how can I checj whos' on the server, command finger doesn't wokr
[05:05] <wildchild> work
[05:08] <Dheeraj_k> go to #ubuntu
[05:13] <Dheeraj_k> !java
[05:13] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:14] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> need some help..   I can't install or uninstall anything or do updates..  I keep getting this error..   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:14] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> any help would be great..
[05:14] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !dpkg
[05:14] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[05:14] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: do as dpkg says , for dpkg is the master
[05:15] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:  and how do I do that..  thorugh term I'm assuming..  ?
[05:15] <robotgeek> run whatever it says
[05:15] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok, but where...
[05:15] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ?
[05:15] <Dheeraj_k> !hot-babe
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hot-babe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> this is the 1st time I've ever seen this thus first time I've had to dfeal with it..
[05:16] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> *deal
[05:16] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: Run the command it tells you
[05:16] <Dheeraj_k> sudo apt-get install hot-babe
[05:16] <robotgeek> Dheeraj_k: please keep it ontopic
[05:16] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: It is on topic
[05:17] <dennister> hey guys, anyone used cvs versions for compiling apps?
[05:17] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: hot-babe is a package actually.  It's system monitoring application
[05:17] <Campino> hi can anybody help me to install the java skd? i install it with alien -i j2sdk_1.4.2_13-1i386.deb now the java sdk is in /usr/java but when i type  java -version i got an error like that: "Error occurred during initialization of VM
[05:17] <gnomefreak> its not in the repos
[05:17] <robotgeek> Hawkwind:  really. i apologize then, Dheeraj_k
[05:17] <gnomefreak> i have it packaged
[05:17] <Dheeraj_k> sudo dpkg -r filename
[05:17] <dennister> the www.lirc.org site says we should be using 8.1 versions for kernels > 2.6.17
[05:17] <Dheeraj_k> it will remove the package
[05:17] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:  do I type it in just like it says...  IE: 'dpkg --configure -a'
[05:17] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: with the sudo in front
[05:17] <Hawkwind> robotgeek: Heh no problem.  It's kind of like the app 'pornview'  Not many think it's a real package, but it is
[05:18] <swami> robotgeek can i ask u on private
[05:18] <robotgeek> swami: sure
[05:19] <dennister> Hawkwind: cvs version use?
[05:19] <Campino> can anybody help me?
[05:19] <Hawkwind> dennister: Huh ?
[05:19] <dennister> sorry...i'm thinking of trying the 8.1 cvs version of lirc
[05:19] <robotgeek> Campino: why are you using alien to intstall a deb?
[05:20] <Campino> hm i dnt know, i read a manual
[05:20] <BluesKaj> I reconfigged xserver-xorg cuz when i get to the login page but it's blank/black with the mouse pointer ...i'm stuck :)
[05:20] <dennister> the www.lirc.org site says we should be using 8.1 for kernels > 2.6.17
[05:20] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok, I found the problem...  I got SETI installed, and when it tries to do the DL from berkley, for the file..   it's not connecting...  timing out..  anything I can do for that?
[05:20] <dennister> and even mario's backports versions are only 8.09...and they're not working for me :(
[05:21] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: isn't the SETI thing now defunct, you might have to use BOINC
[05:21] <Campino> what can I use?
[05:21] <robotgeek> Campino: you can right click and install, for instance
[05:21] <mat__> ich habe ein problem mit Xorg.conf. wer kennt sich gut aus?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> exit
[05:22] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek: yea, and I got that installed but, it still needs to DL somethin..  and it's not gettin through and, I can't uninstall because I get the same error..  soo..  :/
[05:22] <gnomefreak> hot-babe is http://www.youmortals.com/ubuntu/packages/
[05:22] <macmini> hii friendsnneibors
[05:22] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> greetinmgs mini
[05:22] <dennister> Hawkwind: I was thinking you, if anyone, could advise me on the advisability of trying this cvs version to solve my lirc issues
[05:23] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: hmm, maybe try later, or you can do drastic things by force removing it
[05:23] <Hawkwind> dennister: I've never touched lirc, I know nothing about it
[05:23] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> how do I do a force remove...  :)
[05:23] <Campino> ok I make it but i got the same error
[05:23] <dennister> what about cvs versions though...?
[05:23] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: why is it cribbing about a remove, can you paste the message somewhere?
[05:23] <dennister> have u ever used cvs versions for compiling apps?
[05:23] <ZmAY> hello, how can i enable Performance Panel?
[05:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> yea..  gimme a sec..
[05:24] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> !paste
[05:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:24] <mat__> is someone of you a pro in xorg?
[05:25] <dennister> mat_ it depends on what u need to do in xorg?
[05:25] <robotgeek> ZmAY: what is the performance panel?
[05:25] <macmini> hi friends, i tried fresh c't ubuntu from cd, but i am not very happy
[05:25] <mat__> dennister: well, i need to connect a beamer at WXGA-Laptop
[05:25] <ZmAY> The Performance Panel allows you to monitor your systems performance in real time simply by looking at your Desktop Sidebar.
[05:26] <dennister> ok...not me then...although i have done other things with nvidia
[05:26] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok robotgeek   here is the error I get..  same one if I try to install OR remove anything..  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34147/
[05:26] <robotgeek> ZmAY: okay, right click -> Add Applet to panel
[05:26] <dennister> and i don't consider myself a pro, but any means :)
[05:27] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: and what does runnign "sudo dpkg --configure -a" do
[05:27] <macmini> compared to kanotix it is rather lame and hasn't much comfort
[05:27] <mat__> dennister: well, an advance user who gets that thing working is enough! xD
[05:27] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:  with the "??
[05:27] <caine> my sound card dont working im new anyone help me?
[05:27] <dennister> r u using nvdia card, or ati?
[05:28] <Campino> and now?
[05:28] <robotgeek> caine: i think your card is the relatek thing
[05:28] <mat__> dennister: well it says Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
[05:28] <caine> via ac97
[05:28] <caine> robotgeek: via ac97
[05:28] <mat__> dennister: i'm using an acer aspire 1640WZLMi
[05:29] <robotgeek> caine: i think that is a realtek chipset, if i am not mistaken. the nvidia board, right?
[05:29] <dennister> ah...ok...i've never worked with that or ati...try to stay away from both...the acer is a DFP similar to mine
[05:29] <caine> nope p3 1000 old chess board with via chipset
[05:29] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> ok robotgeek, this is what it does..   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34148/
[05:29] <mat__> dennister: what?
[05:30] <dennister> mat_: what does the monitor device say currently?
[05:30] <llutz> mat__:  have a look on http://pbot.rmdir.de/0e85a7e5f2b2d33f52a79763c987d631    sample i915 xorg.conf for clone-mode, maybe helpfull
[05:30] <mat__> dennister: how can i get this?
[05:31] <dennister> mat_: your acer montior is a Digital Flat Panel-DFP, similar to my acer AL2216W
[05:31] <macmini> hi
[05:31] <mat__> llutz: well, maybe i should get a xorg.conf reference...
[05:31] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: sudo dpkg --audit
[05:31] <dennister> check your intel graphics documentation as to how to configure it
[05:31] <caine> robotgeek:  nope p3 1000 old chess board with via chipset
[05:31] <mat__> llutz: looks rather strange...
[05:32] <dennister> !Intel graphics
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Intel graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <mat__> dennister: where and how? (I know, very noob like)
[05:32] <Narada> where are the *.deb packages stored after download
[05:32] <mjunx> i810
[05:32] <dennister> www.x.org is a good place to start
[05:32] <mjunx> Narada: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:33] <llutz> mat__: maybe,but works on my notebook
[05:33] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34149/
[05:33] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> syas 2 package are fubar..
[05:33] <Narada> mjunx: thanks
[05:33] <mat__> llutz: guess i have to try... on high risk...
[05:34] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: reading man page, moment
[05:34] <dennister> mat_: in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, what does it say the driver is for the graphics card?
[05:34] <llutz> mat__: keep always a backup-copy of your working xorg.conf....
[05:34] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:  k..
[05:34] <mat__> *tries llutz's conf...*
[05:34] <dennister> is it still "vesa"?
[05:35] <caine> Narada: /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:35] <dennister> o well, no one seems to have exp with cvs versions for compiling apps
[05:35] <Narada> k
[05:35] <mjunx> I do
[05:35] <dennister> worth a try anyway...
[05:36] <mjunx> ask again, I wasn't here (well, I'm also mattjunx, but I'm not on that computer)
[05:36] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: try "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreg -P boinc-manager setiathome"
[05:36] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> tryin now..
[05:36] <Flosoft> hey
[05:36] <mjunx> what's the point of seti @ home again?
[05:36] <mjunx> dennister: so, what are you trying to compile?
[05:37] <Flosoft> I installed ntfs-3g and libntfs-3g0 but I still can't write to my NTFS hdd
[05:37] <Flosoft> how come?
[05:37] <robotgeek> mjunx: contribute cpu cycles to find aliens!
[05:37] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:   got this..  dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `remove-reinstreg'
[05:37] <mjunx> uh, that's why so many people are running it?
[05:37] <robotgeek> its a q, sorry. remove-reinstreg
[05:37] <mjunx> dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq
[05:37] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: try "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -P boinc-manager setiathome"
[05:38] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> working
[05:38] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: cool
[05:39] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek: ok, said removing seti and BIONIC so, lemme try installing now..  brb
[05:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> updating..
[05:41] <nagyv> how can I found out which device is my microphone? actually I have two of them, and one is probably /dev/dsp, but where is the other?
[05:41] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> and upgrading seems to have worked..
[05:42] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> thanks BUNCHES robotgeek   :)
[05:42] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: no problem, i did not know that one too.
[05:42] <rbrunhuber> is apport integrated into kubuntu?
[05:42] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> robotgeek:  see, I taught ya something today..   :)
[05:43] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> btw, robotgeek   if I choose to do the new upgrade to 6.10 through apt-get will everything be upgraded n such..  or should I DL the ISO?
[05:44] <robotgeek> CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi: it should be, i think it is better to do it online as you wont have to keep updating
[05:44] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> so, do the apt-get then.  yes?
[05:44] <robotgeek> !upgrade > CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi
[05:45] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> k..
[05:46] <osoh> hi all
[05:46] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> any chance we'll be getting flash 9 soon??
[05:46] <ByronFortescue> hey everyone
[05:46] <lenscape> anyone know which package Kuickshow is in?
[05:47] <defrysk> !info kuickshow | lenscape
[05:47] <ByronFortescue> i can't seem to get flash 7 to work, it crashes firefox, and in konqueror i only get a gray view, for example, i hear the audio on a youtube vid, but i only see a gray square, any help would be awesome ^_^!
[05:47] <ubotu> Package kuickshow does not exist in any distro I know
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !flash9
[05:47] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/backports/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:48] <ByronFortescue> ok thanks
[05:48] <lenscape> what? No kuickshow?
[05:48] <CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi> cool!
[05:48] <MenZa> Seveas' is good, CaBlGuY-SuRfErKi
[05:48] <defrysk> lenscape, should be in some metapackage uf kde
[05:49] <lenscape> defrysk: yes, quite but I can't find it
[05:49] <defrysk> lenscape, a sec
[05:49] <MHK> llutz: tried yours. worked. but with a somehow to low resolution
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> !find kuick
[05:49] <MHK> llutz: btw, i'm mat__. changed my name
[05:50] <ubotu> Package/file kuick does not exist in edgy
[05:50] <ByronFortescue> wow, flash 9 works, awesome ^_^
[05:50] <llutz> MHK look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log, maybe you'll find hints. those config is for 1400x1050 internal and 1280x1024 external
[05:50] <ByronFortescue> thanks
[05:51] <MHK> llutz: ok, i should maybe change... but i found something at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[05:51] <MHK> llutz gonna read...
[05:51] <ByronFortescue> good that adobe gives us at least something of a port ^_^
[05:52] <defrysk> lenscape, afaIk it should be in kdegraphics
[05:52] <lenscape> defrysk: trying...thanks
[05:53] <defrysk> lenscape, good luck posiibly its not there anymore
[05:53] <lenscape> defrysk: nope. Got that installed already
[05:56] <lenscape> I don't want to lose kuickshow. I'm a photographer and it is simply the fastest and most versatile way of viewing photos
[05:56] <robotgeek> lenscape: by any chance, it is not digikam, right?
[05:57] <lenscape> kuickshow != digicam
[05:57] <defrysk> lenscape, ist not in the ubuntu repo anymore
[05:57] <lenscape> what!?!?!?
[05:57] <defrysk> what!! indeed lenscape
[05:57] <robotgeek> lenscape: the last version for it was released in 01
[05:58] <robotgeek> lenscape: http://kuickshow.sourceforge.net/ says 01 was last release
[05:58] <defrysk> robotgeek, what tghe replacement for that app ?
[05:58] <defrysk> the*
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> lots of things are getting trimmed out of the repos.
[05:59] <robotgeek> either showfoto (which digikam uses)
[05:59] <defrysk> lenscape, I have a howto for dapper here , might be worth a try for you : http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/#install-kuickshow
[06:00] <bxnp> i am upgrading my system from dapper to edgy but i get this message
[06:00] <bxnp> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[06:00] <bxnp> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[06:00] <bxnp>         LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[06:00] <bxnp>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[06:00] <bxnp>         LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8"
[06:00] <bxnp>     are supported and installed on your system.
[06:00] <robotgeek> lenscape: also try gwenview
[06:00] <bxnp> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C"
[06:00] <bxnp> wow
[06:00] <robotgeek> !paste | bxnp
[06:00] <bxnp> sorry for the spam
[06:00] <ubotu> bxnp: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:00] <lenscape> robotgeek: I've tried them all over the years . Always end up back with Kuickshow
[06:01] <bxnp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34156/
[06:01] <robotgeek> lenscape: heh, i like digikam, but then i dont depend on that one app :)
[06:01] <robotgeek> plus, i am not a pro :)
[06:01] <bxnp> could somebody check the url and see what i must do
[06:01] <bxnp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34156/
[06:02] <robotgeek> damn, bxnp i don't think dpkg-reconfigure locales fixes that one
[06:03] <bxnp> so what must i do
[06:03] <bxnp> what is the error anyway
[06:05] <robotgeek> bxnp: hmm, i don't know , i've seen that problem before and always wondering. second
[06:07] <bill57785> man
[06:07] <robotgeek> bxnp: do you have all those language packs installed?
[06:07] <bill57785> I still can't get my music to play off of my windows partition
[06:07] <bxnp> i thought i only had english installed
[06:07] <robotgeek> bill57785: why not? mp3's or codecs?
[06:07] <mjunx> bxnp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:08] <mjunx> I've had that problem before, and I figured out how to fix it
[06:08] <bxnp> oke afther the upgrade is odne
[06:08] <mjunx> no
[06:08] <bxnp> oke thanks
[06:08] <mjunx> do it as soon as locales is upgraded and configured
[06:08] <mjunx> then you can upgrade everything
[06:08] <Flosoft> hey
[06:09] <Flosoft> how can I setup that it by default mounts with ntfs-3g ?
[06:09] <bill57785> to be honest, I'm not sure.....when it goes to play the song, it skips to the next one (thus creating and endless circle of skipping). I went through last night and upgraded both media players, but it still skips.
[06:09] <mjunx> mount what specifically?
[06:09] <robotgeek> Flosoft: you put it in your fstab
[06:09] <mjunx> bill57785: what format?
[06:09] <bill57785> mp3
[06:09] <Flosoft> ntfs drives
[06:09] <robotgeek> bill57785: do you have codecs?
[06:09] <mjunx> what player? amarok?
[06:10] <robotgeek> !restricted | bill57785
[06:10] <ubotu> bill57785: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:10] <mjunx> !mp3
[06:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:10] <bill57785> amaroK and Kaffeine
[06:10] <mjunx> hmm, !paste > ubotu
[06:10] <mjunx> !paste > ubotu
[06:10] <Flosoft> not only my HDA1, but also memory sticks (removable HDDs) (SDA1)
[06:10] <mjunx> that outta teach him not to paste huge things in here :D
[06:10] <robotgeek> mjunx: he's the bot
[06:10] <mjunx> I know
[06:10] <mjunx> and I hate IRC bots that only flood the channel with preset messages like that
[06:11] <mjunx> although it helps in channels with a lot of FAQs, so I guess I can stand this one
[06:11] <mjunx> people should remember to use !command > user, not just !command...
[06:15] <ByronFortescue> is there btw any video editting software available?
[06:15] <mjunx> lives
[06:15] <mjunx> but I don't think that's in the repositories sadly
[06:16] <mjunx> http://lives.sf.net/
[06:16] <lenscape> according to #kde, kuickshow is in kde3.5 trunk. Someone has removed it for Kubuntu
[06:16] <mjunx> lenscape: that's weird, but you're right
[06:17] <mjunx> you could use gwenview
[06:17] <lenscape> it's not as good
[06:17] <lenscape> nor as fast
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> wine irfanview.exe
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:17] <mjunx> how about pornview?
[06:17] <mjunx> it's a gtk app, but it's good :)
[06:18] <lenscape> mjunx: I'm not that would look good infront of clients
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> Yea gotta love 'baddly named' apps.
[06:18] <mjunx> heh, yeah
[06:18] <mjunx> oh no, it's aptly named
[06:18] <mjunx> if you've got a lot of porn pics, it's good
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> I use it for non porn viewing.
[06:18] <mjunx> one-handed navigation >_>
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> my wife NEVER throws away her pics..
[06:18] <mjunx> it's good for slideshows, though
[06:18] <tibbar> When I try to install games through wine, that are more than one cd, it asks for the next cd and I mount it, but it keeps asking for the next cd like the game can't detect it. I'm not sure if this is a wine problem
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> and cant keep them organized.
[06:19] <mjunx> tibbar: you could copy the cd on to disk and mount that
[06:19] <larson9999> tibbar, that is a common wine thing.  which version of wine?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> tibbar:  mount/unmount the things manually. or copy all the files off cd to a dir. and then run the installer from that dir.
[06:19] <mjunx> sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd1.iso
[06:19] <mjunx> do that for all the cds
[06:19] <mjunx> then you can mount each like this:
[06:19] <larson9999> tibbar, i don't have multi cd programs i run via wine but every once in a while i see a thread talking about how to remedie that.
[06:19] <tibbar> larson9999:  0.9.25 I compiled self
[06:19] <mjunx> sudo mkdir /media/iso1; sudo mount -o loop cd1.iso /media/iso1
[06:20] <mjunx> at least, that's how I do it...
[06:20] <larson9999> tibbar, good.  the newer versions do a better job at cd recognition things
[06:21] <BluesKaj> hmm...Can't contact kdeinit! ... I have no login screen!
[06:21] <tibbar> ok thanks for all the quick replys :) i'll be back if I have more problems
[06:21] <larson9999> my first wiki article :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hybrid_Editor_XE
[06:22] <BluesKaj> hmm...Can't contact kdeinit! ... I have no login screen! ...any ideas ?
[06:23] <BluesKaj> already done xserver-xorrg reconfig ...it didn't help
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> try 'startx'  from the console yet?
[06:23] <Morrissey> Can anyone tell my my CPU goes from 4% to 60% (!!) just open amarok (not even playing)
[06:24] <wincide> hi all
[06:24] <BluesKaj> about 20 times Dr_Willis
[06:24] <BluesKaj> I'm in the console in irssi
[06:24] <pip> hello
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj: whats in your .xinitrc ?
[06:24] <pip> where is the xmodmap file ?
[06:25] <pip> and how to let xmodmap program choose a xmodmap file ?
[06:25] <mjunx> how do I get the Fn key to work?
[06:25] <tibbar> larson9999: I'm installing wow and all 4 cd iso's are on my hard drive where should I put/mount them
[06:26] <mjunx> I've got a vaio laptop
[06:26] <BluesKaj> Dr_Willis: no such file or dir
[06:27] <larson9999> tibbar, do a search on wow and wine.  there are tons of instructions online for setting it up.  i, personally have never played wow on anything.
[06:27] <robotgeek> mjunx: you can select keyboard types from Regional & Accessibility
[06:27] <robotgeek> pip: why do you need xmodmap?
[06:27] <tibbar> larson9999: I did I read it everything goes perfectly they just keep asking for the cd the whole time
[06:28] <pip> robotgeek: I am using beryl 3D dasktop program ,it needs xmodmap
[06:28] <tibbar> larson9999: b.t.w. I use sudo mount -o loop cd1.iso /media/cdrom
[06:28] <bxnp> robotgeek, my upgrade is stalling
[06:28] <robotgeek> pip: xmodmap should already installed
[06:28] <robotgeek> bxnp: why so?
[06:28] <bxnp> !pastbin
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <pip> robotgeek: why is the font too little when I am using beryl ?
[06:29] <robotgeek> !paste > bxnp
[06:29] <robotgeek> pip: i am not sure, i dont use beryl
[06:29] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[06:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:30] <mjunx> what command asks the bot how to use the > redirection?
[06:30] <wincide> hi, with konqueror, i can't get the link to an image in a webpage. i don't know if this is a local problem in my pc... Someone knows what could happen ??
[06:30] <mjunx> okay, I have kmilo, and there is no sony or vaio keyboard model
[06:30] <bxnp> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34168/
[06:30] <bxnp> it does not do anything now
[06:30] <BluesKaj> mjunx: cd
[06:31] <mjunx> !cd
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <mjunx> nope
[06:31] <robotgeek> bxnp: and it doesn't hand after that
[06:31] <robotgeek> bxnp: i meant hang
[06:31] <bxnp> no but it does not go any further installing
[06:32] <BluesKaj> it works as long as you name a dir to change direction to
[06:32] <robotgeek> mjunx: try choosing a close enough keyboard, or you can define your own with xmodmap
[06:32] <robotgeek> bxnp: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" again
[06:32] <mjunx> robotgeek: where would I configure xmodmap?
[06:32] <robotgeek> mjunx: you would need xev, also, letme give you a link to a guide
[06:34] <robotgeek> mjunx: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Multimedia_Keys
[06:34] <mjunx> thanks
[06:34] <bxnp> well i cant close the get rid off the upgrade proces and i get this message when i want to upgrade again
[06:35] <bxnp> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:35] <robotgeek> bxnp: sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg
[06:35] <joe3k> can anybody tell me what are the commands to control the services started upon boot? forgot the name ...
[06:35] <llutz> update-rc.d
[06:35] <BluesKaj> So I wonder if anyone knows how to rescue a login page in kde , I'm really stuck here ...have no way of getting back to kde ...stuck in this shell and i can't get my GUI to come up !... any ideas
[06:36] <joe3k> llutz: ah thanks :)
[06:36] <Morrissey> how can I set wich program xchat launches links with?
[06:36] <bxnp> lsof does not return anything robotgeek
[06:37] <lenscape> !picasa
[06:37] <ubotu> Picasa from Google can be downloaded in .deb format from: http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html
[06:37] <bill57785> ok, is there any programs that can convert mass amounts of mp3s into ogg? audacity does it one by one (and eventually fills up my screen)
[06:38] <robotgeek> bxnp: hmm, mostly the program dpkg must be locking it
[06:38] <llutz> bill57785: use google for "mp32ogg" it'sa usefull script
[06:38] <Dheeraj_k> !picase | Dheeraj_k
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about picase - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:39] <Dheeraj_k> !ogg | bill
[06:39] <ubotu> bill: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:40] <bxnp> should i kill dpkg robotgeek
[06:40] <bxnp> with killall dpkg
[06:41] <robotgeek> bxnp: ps -ef | grep "dpkg\|apt-get\|synaptic\|update-manager\|adept\|adept-notifier"
[06:41] <robotgeek> bxnp: find out what is running
[06:42] <lzap> hello I have Ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed and I am going to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy
[06:42] <lzap> any tips for me?
[06:42] <robotgeek> !upgrade > lzap
[06:43] <lzap> I have replaced "vim" package with version 7.0 from unofficial place, how can I revert the package?
[06:43] <lzap> I cannot uninstall/install it since  ubuntu and kubuntu depends on it
[06:43] <robotgeek> lzap, can you not manually uninstall it?
[06:44] <lzap> nope it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:44] <MHK> llutz: got now this thing working... xD
[06:44] <robotgeek> lzap: sure, that is only a metapackage, so go ahead and uninstall it.
[06:44] <lzap> well its: ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal vim
[06:44] <bxnp> robotgeek, a lot take a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34173/
[06:45] <bill57785> !engine
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about engine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <robotgeek> bxnp: it still seems to be running, if not kill those processes and try again
[06:45] <robotgeek> bxnp: specifically only if it is frozen
[06:46] <Dheeraj_k> why vim does not reflect function in different colour? on ubuntu
[06:46] <MHK> llutz: and the funny thing is, i don't now exactly what i did! got now to try some features like clone on/off xinerama on/off... but at least it works!
[06:46] <lzap> robotgeek: but I dont have Kubuntu, I have ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed :-(
[06:46] <MHK> *makes a backup of xorg.conf...*
[06:46] <robotgeek> lzap: go ahead and remove vim manually. then we can upgrade
[06:46] <llutz> MHK: sometimes its just fine to see something working, not to know much about
[06:46] <Dheeraj_k> it display every thing black and white
[06:47] <nuku_> Dheeraj_k: you could try: echo "syntax on" > ~/.vimrc
[06:47] <bxnp> same happening with the battery thing
[06:47] <bxnp> holding now at checking battery state
[06:47] <MHK> llutz: but understand why is always interesting! and yeah, i got still some trouble...
[06:47] <lzap> robotgeek: but it will remove ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal -- wont it remove whole system?
[06:48] <nuku_> and make sure you have full vim not vim-tiny installed
[06:48] <robotgeek> lzap: why does removing vim want to remove ubuntu-base, does not make sense
[06:48] <lzap> robotgeek: its an unofficial package -- probably bad. is it possible to downlgrade it?
[06:48] <lzap> to force downgrade?
[06:48] <robotgeek> lzap: it's a metapackage again, so not to worry
[06:49] <robotgeek> lzap: we will install older version before upgrading
[06:49] <robotgeek> lzap: so go ahead and remove
[06:49] <Morrissey> can anyone tell me why xorg use 20-40% CPU of my 2.2ghz ALL the time?
[06:49] <fil_> hello
[06:51] <lzap> ok removed
[06:52] <lzap> I have installed these two packages back
[06:52] <robotgeek> lzap: once you have installed the *ubuntu-desktop package, proceed to upgrade
[06:53] <lzap> robotgeek: THANKS wish me luck
[06:53] <robotgeek> lzap: good luck!
[06:54] <lzap> can I try dry-run or something like that?
[06:54] <lzap> to see if something breaks (in advance)
[06:55] <robotgeek> lzap: there is a apt-get -s switch, but i dont think that helps much
[06:55] <robotgeek> lzap: go ahead, try it out :)
[06:55] <bxnp> my god this system is totaly broken now i guess it stalls on everything
[06:56] <robotgeek> bxnp: not good
[06:56] <bxnp> i am afraid to reboot
[06:56] <Bob_> Bonjour  tous
[06:57] <bxnp>  apt-index-watch is moving my load up too 8
[06:58] <MHK> bxnp: you can easily kill it
[06:58] <Bob_> anyone?
[06:58] <robotgeek> !fr
[06:58] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:59] <MHK> bxnp: ps -e | grep apt-index-watch; sudo kill <pid>
[06:59] <bxnp> the pid is changing MHK
[06:59] <Bob_> thanks !!
[06:59] <MHK> bxnp: i know. sorry!
[07:00] <MHK> bxnp: but the code does work.
[07:00] <MHK> xD
[07:00] <robotgeek> MHK: heh, you still have to type the pid in manually.
[07:00] <lzap> robotgeek: ok I am proceeding. I have nvidia, do I have to make some additional command after upgrade?
[07:00] <robotgeek> lzap: do you have the binary driver?
[07:01] <robotgeek> lzap: i am not sure, i have not installed that before
[07:02] <bxnp> mki got this bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline
[07:02] <bxnp> i meant mkh
[07:02] <Dheeraj_k> !in
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about in - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <lzap> robotgeek: apt-get informs that it will remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:03] <shulman> is it possible to find out everything that is currently using my sound system? I'm picking up some weird interference on my sound that I'm sure is software related.
[07:03] <bxnp> top
[07:04] <bxnp> MHK, did you read mine comment,
[07:05] <MHK> bxnp: what you mean exactly?
[07:05] <bxnp> MHK, i get this message bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline
[07:05] <bxnp> your code for killing apt-index-watch
[07:06] <amik> hi guys, I got a q: is there any way to always allow KNetworkManager to access KdeWallet, so that I don't have to enter a password every time I boot up in order to connect to the net?
[07:06] <MHK> bxnp "ps -e | grep apt-index-watch" and then "sudo kill <pid>"
[07:06] <mati> can someone explain me how to install ultima online iris for kubuntu?
[07:06] <zblach> hey all
[07:07] <robotgeek> lzap: sorry, was away
[07:07] <robotgeek> lzap: is this after you removed vim, when?
[07:08] <lzap> nono apt-get -u dist-upgrade prints it will remove kubuntu-desktop, kdevelop3 etc
[07:08] <robotgeek> amik: yes, did it not ask you?
[07:08] <lzap> robotgeek: I wonder if its ok... the upgrade is in progress now
[07:08] <nuku> shulman: you can try something like: lsof | grep "dsp\|snd"
[07:09] <robotgeek> lzap: it should be, it will remove that and intall it back, i hope :)
[07:09] <amik> robotgeek: it asks for a password when I boot in order to connect to the net. there are just 'open' and 'cancel' buttons. no 'allow always' button or something like that
[07:09] <robotgeek> amik: it asks me once at boot.
[07:10] <robotgeek> amik: check in your wallet preferences
[07:10] <shulman> nuku: I think it was the microphone port beingturned on... thanks for your help
[07:11] <amik> robotgeek: I'm looking at the prefs, it says 'Always Allow' as the policy for knetworkmanager. yet it asks for the password each time.
[07:12] <robotgeek> amik: might be a bug, maybe file one?
[07:13] <kimmern> anyone here with intel i810 drivers who got direct rendering?
[07:15] <amik> robotgeek: will do that. I didn't know if it's supposed to do what I think it's supposed to do :-) thanks!
[07:16] <robotgeek> amik: i think i had trouble with mine too, but now it asks me only once per app
[07:16] <mati> is someone using ultima online iris client?
[07:17] <mati> :(
[07:19] <bill57785> "This is where you will be able to enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories. The first step on this page is to locate this line and the line below it."   I don't have those lines...
[07:20] <bill57785> from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:20] <robotgeek> bill57785: just trying to enable universe and multiverse to get mp3's?
[07:21] <bxnp> robotgeek, i am in the middle of upgrading to edgy but i get all kinds of fauls how can i downgrade to dapper again
[07:22] <robotgeek> bxnp: uhoh. downgrading is pretty risky
[07:22] <bxnp> well upgrading is not possible anymore
[07:22] <bxnp> its stalling and stalling
[07:22] <robotgeek> bxnp: you have not rebooted yet, have you?
[07:22] <bill57785> robotgeek: well, I'm trying to get the latest version of amaroK, because it supports mp3, but I have to enable those two lines, which I don't have
[07:22] <Morrissey> how Can I record my current desktop? So I can make a movie about it :) ie: using beryl, showing off stuff +++ ... ?
[07:23] <robotgeek> bill57785: actually, mp3 you can get in older ersions as well.
[07:23] <osh_> wasn't there somewhere on launchpad.net wher you could assign money to have specific features fixed?
[07:23] <robotgeek> bill57785: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3 libxine-extracodecs
[07:24] <robotgeek> bill57785: see http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <spitzz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:25] <spitzz> Try that
[07:25] <amik> robotgeek: I filed the bug. thanks again!
[07:25] <Dheeraj_k> kde on windows? yeah http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/11/thoughts-on-framing-kde.html
[07:25] <robotgeek> amik: thanks for filing :)
[07:26] <spitzz> I followed the istructions there and got it all up running very quickly
[07:26] <robotgeek> spitzz: same page, actually :)
[07:27] <spitzz> ok :)
[07:30] <bill57785> hmmm
[07:30] <bill57785> well, I already installed those
[07:30] <bill57785> do I need to restart?
[07:31] <robotgeek> bill57785: nope
[07:34] <bxnp> oke robotgeek i think i solved my problems
[07:35] <robotgeek> bxnp: awesome
[07:35] <bxnp> my source list with not fully brought to edgy
[07:35] <bxnp> argggggggg
[07:35] <bxnp> so i upgraded again
[07:35] <bxnp> and it seems working right now
[07:35] <robotgeek> bxnp: cool
[07:36] <bxnp> mayve i spoke to soon
[07:36] <bxnp> argh
[07:36] <bxnp> its now hanging again on powermanagement
[07:36] <robotgeek> bxnp: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade anyways :)
[07:36] <max_> ragazzi qualkuno mi aiuta kon wine
[07:36] <robotgeek> try turning off acpi then
[07:37] <bill57785> lol, I tried installing again, and it said that they were the latest versions, and I tried amaroK again, and it works now
[07:37] <bill57785> thanks
[07:37] <robotgeek> bill57785: cool, no probs
[07:37] <MHK> bxnp: well i tried it with regex but honestly: do it like i told you!
[07:40] <bxnp> mhk the apt- problem is solved i have killed it already
[07:40] <MHK> bxnp how?
[07:41] <bxnp> i did what you told me
[07:54] <alessandro_> ciao
[07:55] <alessandro_> nessun bisex?
[07:56] <zibrah3ed> kubnutu won't assign a driver to my philips hdd 6330. Is it possible to assign it maually
[07:56] <zibrah3ed> !usb
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <bxnp> robotgeek, oke this is the current state http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34182/ how to proceed cuase it hangs there asswell
[08:04] <cox377> Hello all
[08:04] <cox377> i've got a bit of a problem
[08:05] <cox377> the hdd in my box just died and it was the hdd2 with linux installed, the grup was installedon hdd1 with windows, but i cant boot windows now because the grub is throwing up an error, is there anyway to edit the grub to boot windows?
[08:06] <hairk> Anyone ever setup synaptics touchpad settings?
[08:08] <zibrah3ed_> grub is looking for its files on hdb
[08:12] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: how do i alter that matE?
[08:13] <zibrah3ed_> thats what i'm trying to figure out
[08:14] <zibrah3ed_> what is the error exactly
[08:15] <bxnp> robotgeek, did you get my message
[08:19] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: error 17
[08:19] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: cheers in advance
[08:19] <cox377> ;)
[08:20] <zibrah3ed_> cox does your comp have a floppy
[08:21] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: nah mate : ( is that a probme?
[08:22] <zibrah3ed_> well yeah
[08:22] <zibrah3ed_> ruins my first idea
[08:23] <djilks> Is kubuntu easier to maintain than openSUSE? I'm finding openSUSE package manager rather... depressing.
[08:23] <cox377> lol
[08:23] <zibrah3ed_> it is a matter of opinion but i find kubuntu easier
[08:23] <glazed_eyes> djilks, I haev tried Kubuntu and so far have had no problems
[08:24] <glazed_eyes> a friend of mine once said that Ubuntu just works
[08:24] <zibrah3ed_> cox home or pro?
[08:24] <glazed_eyes> and he - was not a techie guy - he just was curious about GNU/Linux and he tried out Ubuntu
[08:25] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: pro
[08:26] <bxnp> my god how is this linux every going to work on the desktop, if things seems to be so complicated ones things starting to break, i am going back
[08:27] <cox377> bxnp: what exactly do u mean?
[08:28] <djilks> glazed_eyes: i guess it's basically an apt vs. rpm question, but i really only care if it takes me less than 10 mins to install quanta if I didn't do so during the initial installation.
[08:28] <Blissex> bxnp: they are as complicated under MS Windows, unless you do only the pre-defined stuff.
[08:28] <glazed_eyes> djilks, true, before Kubuntu, I was on Debian
[08:28] <glazed_eyes> but my Kubuntu experience was definitely better
[08:28] <glazed_eyes> nevertheless
[08:28] <glazed_eyes> it may not be a fair comparision
[08:28] <glazed_eyes> because I did a dist-upgrade to testing and then to unstable on debian
[08:29] <bxnp> maybe, but dont offer an upgrade from dapper to edgy if you know that the upgrade process is going to work on 99 procent of the cases
[08:29] <bxnp> and if you do, offer this as an option, be sure to have an escape route
[08:31] <djilks> glazed_eyes: i was on gentoo prior, but i found out the hard way that it's impossible to update after ~7 months. ;-/
[08:31] <glazed_eyes> haha
[08:31] <glazed_eyes> that happens
[08:32] <superdump> hello good people
[08:32] <djilks> glazed_eyes: but i used rpm in the past, and it was different 3-4 years ago. things didn't take 10-20 mins to install.
[08:32] <bxnp> well i am an linux user for four weeks now
[08:32] <bxnp> but i must be honest i dont want to spend hour and hours to figure things out i just want it to work
[08:32] <bxnp> so i guess linux or kubuntu is not for me
[08:32] <zibrah3ed_> cox do you have the windows setup disk
[08:33] <ubuntu> gnulinux is free in freedom
[08:33] <glazed_eyes> bxnp, that is true, else the experience is ruined and people are put off
[08:33] <superdump> i'm trying to install edgy to a partition that already has data on it (just my home dir) but when selecting to mount the partition as / but not reformatting, the installer says that i have not selected a root partition
[08:33] <bxnp> besides that i use opneoffice gimp xchat blender firefox on windows anyway
[08:33] <superdump> is this a known issue?
[08:33] <superdump> is there a way around it?
[08:33] <glazed_eyes> bxnp, about the experience not being for you part, I can not say yet. I do hope however, that your probelms go away soon and you continue to use GNU systems
[08:33] <mc__> bxnp: maybe you should talk to the guys in #windows
[08:34] <cox377> bxnp: what do u need to figure out, i play around with it like a toy but another member of my family uses it day in day out as a computer without any understanding of the modifications that are possible
[08:34] <AmazingRuss> i just feel dirty when i run windows....although linux can be a pain in the ass
[08:34] <edwardsNdallasTX> anyone set up RAID5 on a LAMP installation?
[08:34] <zibrah3ed_> cox if you have the setup disk, i think you can recover without reinstall
[08:34] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: thats the long and short of it : (a
[08:34] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: hh do u mean a windows set up disk?
[08:34] <zibrah3ed_> cox Boot from the Windows XP CD and press R during the setup to start the recovery console. Select your Windows XP installation from the list and enter the administrator password. At the input prompt, enter the command FIXMBR and confirm with y when asked to do so. Then reboot the computer with exit.
[08:35] <Bubba_Gump> FLV videos stop play half way through using flash beta 9, any ideas ?
[08:35] <zibrah3ed_> that will restore windows mbr and allow you to boot again
[08:35] <zibrah3ed_> brb laundry
[08:35] <djilks> glazed_eyes: thanks, guess I'll be back in kubuntu.
[08:36] <bxnp> mc__, well maybe i should but anyway, i dont care if its free i dont care that its opensource however i find it charming, but the only reason i switched to linux is that i heard that its was good
[08:36] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: very kind for looking for that for me
[08:37] <superdump> Bubba_Gump: update to flash beta 2
[08:37] <superdump> i.e. flash 9 beta 2
[08:37] <Bubba_Gump> !flash
[08:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <Bubba_Gump> !flashbeta9
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flashbeta9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <superdump> labs.adobe.com
[08:37] <linx-> how can i check for package updates during a session?
[08:37] <Bubba_Gump> ah :)
[08:37] <Bubba_Gump> thanks :D
[08:37] <superdump> no problem
[08:38] <superdump> i encountered an issue where it stops after two seconds of playback too, and so did many others
[08:38] <superdump> updating to beta 2 fixed it i believe
[08:38] <DralaFi> right, so I'm remaking my kernel wth same .config as the kubuntu, except I build scsi, sata and sata driver into kernel. Lets see if this will work.
[08:39] <Bubba_Gump> superdump: how do i install?
[08:39] <superdump> you put libflashplayer.so wherever your other plugins are
[08:39] <zibrah3ed_> nonsense cox believe it or not its fun for me
[08:39] <superdump> overwriting the current one
[08:40] <superdump> i recommend closing all browsers first
[08:44] <AmazingRuss> anybody done edgy on a laptop?  is the pain worth upgrading from dapper?
[08:45] <AmazingRuss> I'm doing games development and running an xp vm for work
[08:45] <DralaFi> isn't edgy full of holes and bugs?
[08:45] <AmazingRuss> been hearing that, but you hear lots of stuff :)\
[08:45] <DralaFi> true
[08:46] <AmazingRuss> i want the shiny new, for whatever irrational reason
[08:46] <DralaFi> heh, i'm still trying to make kubuntu an initrd-less system
[08:47] <AmazingRuss> what for?  Forgive my ignorance...im still kind of new at this.
[08:48] <DralaFi> to slim down the system a bit and make it faster booting
[08:48] <zibrah3ed_> good luck
[08:48] <DralaFi> the initrd has tons of stuff in it that are no use to me, like md and raid stuff
[08:48] <DralaFi> zibrah3ed_, well I got it working, but having some issues with KDE and HAL.
[08:49] <AmazingRuss> Hooo...you muckin with bad juju there...I tangled briefly with that for a class that I had to mod the kernel in
[08:49] <zibrah3ed_> lol
[08:49] <DralaFi> plugging a new usb device that is bound to usb-storage driver doesn't show up in kde, even though I have udev, dbus, hal and pmount working.
[08:49] <AmazingRuss> I had almost forgotten what machine freezes were
[08:50] <DralaFi> AmazingRuss, kernels don't frighten me
[08:50] <zibrah3ed_> ya i have a problem with my gogear hdd 6330, no matter what i do it won't assign it a usb-storage driver
[08:50] <AmazingRuss> well they SHOULD!  They are big nasty thigns with pointy teeth, that dont like having their process scheduleres twiddled
[08:51] <DralaFi> zibrah3ed_, afaik 2.6.13 >= allow you to bind a /sysfs entry for a device to a driver of your choice
[08:54] <Kiongku> lol tiberian
[08:54] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: your a legend
[08:55] <ec99210> hi people! i need help fixing my wireless device... read and posted and read some more but nothing...
[08:56] <AmazingRuss> what make model/wireless
[08:56] <AmazingRuss> ?
[08:56] <ec99210> 3945 intel
[08:57] <AmazingRuss> what dont work?
[08:57] <ec99210> abg
[08:57] <ec99210> disappeared
[08:57] <zibrah3ed_> why is that cox?
[08:57] <ec99210> eth1 has vanished
[08:57] <AmazingRuss> you dual booting windows?
[08:57] <ec99210> yep
[08:57] <AmazingRuss> shows up in windows?
[08:57] <ec99210> yep
[08:57] <AmazingRuss> ifup eth1 no work?
[09:00] <ec99210> ...AmzingRuss: no such device
[09:00] <AmazingRuss> do an lsmod |grep 3945
[09:01] <AmazingRuss> is it in there?
[09:02] <ec99210> get a list of smtng like this: 17179583.528000]  ipw3945: Unknown symbol ieee80211_wx_get_encodeext
[09:02] <djilks> I was just going through the installation, but it didn't prompt me for partitioning. Does it?
[09:03] <superdump> it should do
[09:03] <djilks> superdump: which step?
[09:04] <b0ng0> hey im having trouble changing my keyboard setup from US to UK
[09:04] <AmazingRuss> ec99210 i think your driver is hosed....I would look on the kubuntu wiki for how to reinsttall it
[09:04] <b0ng0> it cant be done through Regional Settings, ive tried
[09:04] <superdump> AmazingRuss: just fyi, i'm installing kubuntu edgy on a macbook
[09:04] <ec99210> ok
[09:04] <ec99210> thx
[09:04] <AmazingRuss> good luck ec
[09:04] <AmazingRuss> superdump WHY?
[09:05] <AmazingRuss> osx is awesomef
[09:05] <superdump> because i like linux
[09:05] <superdump> os x is good, but it eats ram
[09:05] <superdump> and i only have 512MB
[09:05] <superdump> which makes linux much more comfortable
[09:05] <AmazingRuss> old macbook eh
[09:05] <superdump> maybe leopard will fix that
[09:06] <superdump> i may invest in 2GB anyway but we'll see
[09:06] <AmazingRuss> cheaper than your time
[09:06] <superdump> i like linux
[09:06] <superdump> :p
[09:06] <AmazingRuss> zealot !
[09:06] <superdump> nah
[09:06] <AmazingRuss> i like tinkering with it, but am finding it kind of hacky
[09:06] <AmazingRuss> going to try bsd on my next machine
[09:07] <superdump> i used os x only for a month or so and i do like it, but i needed access to an ext2 partition and the third party driver someone wrote for os x was being crap
[09:07] <superdump> so i set up a dual boot with linux
[09:08] <superdump> plus i love the centralised package management in many linux distributions
[09:08] <superdump> makes my life easy
[09:08] <superdump> :)
[09:08] <AmazingRuss> that is pretty awesome
[09:08] <AmazingRuss> easily accessible free software
[09:08] <superdump> but this channel isn't really for os x/linux discussion ;)
[09:08] <AmazingRuss> that even works most of the time
[09:08] <AmazingRuss> guess not
[09:09] <superdump> i look forward to leopard and i really wish they'd put in an ext2 driver
[09:09] <AmazingRuss> can you scrounge something from bsd?
[09:09] <j_> hey hoy is there a Ghost or Go back type a solution for backing up Ubuntu?
[09:09] <AmazingRuss> j_ read about dd
[09:09] <AmazingRuss> it will dump a drive to a file
[09:09] <AmazingRuss> and back again
[09:10] <sempai_> alguien parla espaol
[09:10] <sempai_> necesito ayuda
[09:10] <AmazingRuss> negatory, amigo
[09:10] <sempai_> jajaja
[09:10] <sempai_> como diablos logro hacer que mi tarjeta de red conecte en hospot
[09:10] <mnoir> j_: or google 'ghost for linux'
[09:12] <zibrah3ed_> ayuda aqui #kubuntu-es
[09:14] <mc__> !beryl
[09:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:14] <Varjat_by> Hi! I have a problems with lirc installing.. Is it possible to instal LIRC without buildig kernel modules as it done in Debian and other ditributios?
[09:14] <sempai_> join #kubuntu-es
[09:15] <Varjat_by> I cann't compile current lirc-kernel-modules ..
[09:16] <icheyne> how do I set Firefox as my default browser?
[09:18] <zibrah3ed_> edit -- > preferences --> tick check if swiftfow is default at startup
[09:18] <zibrah3ed_> err firefox
[09:18] <icheyne> ok thanks
[09:18] <icheyne> :)
[09:19] <Dheeraj_k> !server
[09:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments. The default install includes a server kernel and no GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current stable version is 6.06 LTS. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[09:19] <icheyne> zibrah3ed_, oh I see what you mean
[09:20] <superdump> hmm, i suspect it can't use the partition i wanted as a root partition because it's reiserfs
[09:21] <icheyne> no what i want is to set the default browser in the *whole* of KDE
[09:21] <IMEC> reiserfs is supported superdump
[09:21] <icheyne> it does not seem to work here
[09:21] <icheyne> if I click a link in xchat it opens in konq
[09:21] <IMEC> icheyne actually depends on the application you are using... it should have external tools (or browser) under the options of the application or something where you specify the browser
[09:21] <Dheeraj_k> !dapper
[09:21] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[09:21] <icheyne> ok thanks IMEC
[09:21] <superdump> IMEC: well i thought so but it doesn't seem to like the partition in the installer, it won't let me install to it without reformatting, and it won't let me install to it with reformatting either
[09:21] <icheyne> I'll try that
[09:22] <superdump> reiserfs isn't listed in the installer filesystems
[09:22] <Dheeraj_k> !ntfs
[09:22] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:23] <Dheeraj_k> !command
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about command - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <Dheeraj_k> !fuse
[09:23] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:23] <cloakable> !upstart
[09:24] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:24] <IMEC> !ntfs-3g
[09:24] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[09:24] <Dheeraj_k> !hello
[09:24] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[09:25] <Hawkwind> !botabuse
[09:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[09:25] <Dheeraj_k> !ubotu
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Dheeraj_k: Please stop
[09:26] <Hawkwind> Dheeraj_k: If you want to play with the bot, do it in PM please
[09:26] <Hawkwind> I thought the above message was fairly clear
[09:28] <Varjat_by> Is anybody know how to fix problem with LIRC building? http://rafb.net/paste/results/BGx2WG76.html
[09:28] <intelikey> does anyone precieve why X might now capture the ctrl+alt+f# so that one must alt+SysRQ+R before they work properly ?
[09:29] <DralaFi> zibrah3ed_, I got your PM, but I have no idea what you are talking abuot...
[09:29] <intelikey> !b-e | Varjat_by
[09:29] <ubotu> Varjat_by: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:29] <Dheeraj_k> gone bore :-X here is my /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34191/
[09:29] <DralaFi> yay intelikey is back :)
[09:31] <Dheeraj_k> chk this out http://www.thinkdigit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31989
[09:31] <DralaFi> doh, forgot ext3 in the kernel
[09:32] <intelikey> DralaFi or at least ext2  else you must use an initr*.img
[09:32] <Varjat_by> ubotu: There are a lot of HowToes about installing LIRC.. But there no ones describe my problem..
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about There are a lot of HowToes about installing LIRC.. But there no ones describe my problem.. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <intelikey> !ubotu | Varjat_by
[09:33] <ubotu> Varjat_by: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:33] <DralaFi> intelikey, yup. I'm taking your advice from last night. I'm using the same kernel config as with kubuntu factory, but adding only essential stuff to be built into kernel.
[09:34] <Dheeraj_k> !lirc | Varjat_by
[09:34] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[09:35] <intelikey> DralaFi yeah that seems to be the easiest way for me.   i'm no expert but have built a few kernels.
[09:35] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: yup worked like a treat
[09:35] <cox377> zibrah3ed_: legend
[09:37] <DralaFi> intelikey, yeah well last night while I was in my dark room in bed, feeling oncoming sleep, I realised I usually take off automount. So maybe that will make a difference. Who knows. Gonna test soon.
[09:37] <Varjat_by> All bots are so clever!..
[09:37] <DralaFi> intelikey, yeah, I also hate being forced to use initrd.
[09:42] <intelikey> BluesKaj how did the kdm issue turn out ?
[09:43] <BluesKaj> intelikey:  I gave up ...couldn't fix the login screen ...reinstalled edgy
[09:44] <intelikey> that's drastic.  but affective.   did admiral_chicago not help you?
[09:48] <Danker> Hi
[09:48] <kaffeewoller> which is the package that contains the kde headers, please?
[09:48] <Danker> How to list opened files by programs?
[09:48] <intelikey> Danker lsof
[09:49] <hairk> How can I make firefox go back by pressing "CTRL+LEFT" and go forward by pressing "CTRL+RIGHT" in Kubuntu?
[09:49] <intelikey> kaffeewoller   libkdegames-dev - KDE games library headers  ?
[09:49] <hairk> sorry, not CTRL, but ALT
[09:49] <BluesKaj> intel admiral  tried to help , but even reconfigging xserver-xorg wouldn't work so it was alost cause methinks :)
[09:49] <b0ng0> Hi, I was wondering what nvidia drivers I should download and how to get them
[09:50] <DralaFi> well this kernel is even worse, lshal doesn't do much
[09:50] <kaffeewoller> intelikey: not games headers. more like general kde headers. isn't there such a thing?
[09:50] <intelikey> BluesKaj hehhe it wasn't an Xorg issue it was an kdm issue   but oh well.   hate that it came to a reload.
[09:51] <intelikey> kaffeewoller your search works as good as mine.    apt-cache search "string to look for" | grep -ie"special filter string if needed"
[09:52] <BluesKaj> well intelikey, the reconfig /reinstall kdm din't work either
[09:52] <BluesKaj> I screwed something up in the login menu that was irrepairable
[09:52] <intelikey> BluesKaj but an apt-get remove --purge kdm && apt-get install kdm    prolly would have
[09:53] <BluesKaj> now you tell me :)
[09:53] <intelikey> "irrepairable" == "i didn't know how to fix it"   :)
[09:53] <BluesKaj> right
[09:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj anyway glad you found a way to work with it.
[09:54] <BluesKaj> anyway ..now I'm gonna have fun reconfigging my network/printer/ wife's pc
[09:54] <vursitis> Hello everyone.
[09:55] <intelikey> BluesKaj one thing about it.  you setup that thing three or four times you get where you know prezactly what to look for....
[09:55] <bill57785> vursits: Hello. ^_^
[09:56] <vursitis> Would anyone possibly know of a program that would allow me to destructivly delete indavidual files.
[09:57] <intelikey> vursitis rm
[09:57] <DralaFi> vursitis, rm
[09:57] <DralaFi> lol, intelikey
[09:57] <vursitis> The program is called rm?
[09:57] <intelikey> they are not the same.... yours has a comma :)
[09:57] <intelikey> vursitis yes
[09:57] <DralaFi> :P
[09:57] <intelikey> cli
[09:57] <intelikey> !cli | vursitis
[09:57] <ubotu> vursitis: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[09:59] <Lynoure> one round of rm is not destructive enough for all purposes, I think
[09:59] <intelikey> Lynoure what fs ?
[10:00] <intelikey> lets see you recover a file rm'd on ext3   ???
[10:00] <DralaFi> hmm, should'nt that be !cli > user rather than the pipe?
[10:00] <otaku-san> what file would I config to change the size of the login screen
[10:01] <Lynoure> intelikey: even on ext3.
[10:01] <Danker> intelikey: Thanks ;)
[10:01] <intelikey> DralaFi if you don't want the channel to see it.
[10:01] <vursitis> You might be able to recover it with an elcrton microscope, but I don't have anything that the FBI would want, I just need to destroy some bank account information.
[10:01] <vursitis> electron*
[10:01] <Lynoure> vursitis: shred is nicer
[10:02] <vursitis> shred
[10:02] <Lynoure> vursitis: see  man shred
[10:02] <DralaFi> intelikey, yes but in bash you'd use redirection, not pipes ;) hence > not |
[10:03] <vursitis> ok
[10:03] <intelikey> DralaFi ?   no.   both have their place in the shell
[10:04] <intelikey> DralaFi  dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3    for instance     or  dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 > installed    if you wanted that output in a file.
[10:04] <DralaFi> intelikey, yes i know. we misunderstood each other :) | makes sense anyway since the user would be a filter
[10:05] <intelikey> sure we don't want to "over write" the user   :)
[10:05] <vursitis> Shred looks fairly decent, thankyou Lynoure
[10:06] <j_> how do I disable the popup that comes when you hover over a system tray item in kubuntu?
[10:06] <DralaFi> intelikey, i'm sure some would want to overwrite some users :D
[10:06] <Lynoure> vursitis: thanks for asking the question :)
[10:07] <intelikey> j_ right click preferances
[10:07] <vursitis> Thankyou everyone : ) goodbye
[10:08] <intelikey> that's a generic answer for "how do you.... in kde"
[10:08] <bill57785> where do I go to change the default browser? I want links to open in Konqueror instead of FF
[10:08] <intelikey> right click is    ^
[10:08] <DralaFi> j_, right click on taskbar -> preferences -> layout -> appearence, uncheck enable icon mouseover effects
[10:09] <DralaFi> s/preferences/configure panel/
[10:09] <nhoult> there is no joystick option in my System Settings in Edgy kubuntu, anyone have some ideas why?
[10:10] <intelikey> bill57785 i've seen that asked in reverse a thousand times.... same answer tho   in konqueror  menu   configure konqueror
[10:10] <chleises_weggli_> heeeeeeee
[10:11] <intelikey> bill57785 iirc  it's file association or something simular
[10:14] <intelikey>    Question;   does anyone precieve why X might now capture the ctrl+alt+f# so that one must alt+SysRQ+R before they work properly ?
[10:15] <intelikey> it's really anoying to have to alt+SysRQ+R &&  ctrl+alt+f#  just to get out of a gui...
[10:15] <intelikey> EVERY TIME !
[10:15] <j_> thanks DralaFi, that did it
[10:16] <nhoult> does joystick configuration option show up for anyone in System Settings in Edgy?
[10:17] <sempai_> carajo ayuda
[10:20] <linx> while trying to update from dapper to edgy i got errors about changes not being able to be comitted.. after having to much error adept updater quit.. then after trying to reboot none of the kernels will boot and recovery mode hangs..
[10:24] <lters_> linx: is your hd all partitioned together?
[10:24] <linx> ?
[10:24] <sempai_> mexicanos??
[10:25] <sempai_> espaoles??
[10:25] <linx> #kubuntu-es
[10:25] <sempai_> alguien que hable espaol
[10:25] <sempai_> no  ocntestan ne ese canal
[10:26] <lters_> linx: backup your home folder.
[10:26] <lters_> do a clean install.
[10:26] <linx> it's on a seperate partition..
[10:26] <lters_> ok, that is great.
[10:26] <lters_> just do a clean install and leave the partition alone.
[10:26] <linx> have the installer in front of my now
[10:26] <linx> at the partitioning part
[10:27] <intelikey> well i have the most interesting kde ever.  the menu is empty except for system, run command, and quit;    run command kcontrol  and it gives an empty window    right click on the pannel or desktop give a menu with preferances in it but clicking that gives the same empty window.....   i have no clue why it's broke.  i have removed and reinstalled all of it....  even down to a few "essential packages"    (for the record, it'
[10:28] <linx> chose manual partitioning.. but the default partitioning that lists isnt the same as what Disks & Filesystems lists
[10:28] <lters_> You mean you can't see your home partition?
[10:30] <wildchild> can someone help me with addons in firefox? I am looking for some kind of addon that when I click on the link http://www.koffice.org/krita/videos/krita_perspectivecloning.mpeg won't start kaffeine or other player but that I could have a choice to download this clip on HD
[10:30] <intelikey> cause i don't have any.
[10:30] <intelikey> right click doesn't allow that already ?
[10:31] <linx> lters_: can i send you a screenshot?
[10:32] <joe3k> wildchild: right click or options/download, there you can configure file associations
[10:32] <stucksam> hi all. I put a router (wrt54gl running open wrt) into client-bridge mode before i really knew what that was. Of course i can no longer contact the router through the web interface... is there a way to get back in touch with it?
[10:33] <sbcl3> hello. I'm having a problem where gam_server runs every few seconds, then disappears, then comes back. Over the course of time it eats all of my memory. Can I fix this by doing a full system upgrade to edgy eft?
[10:34] <sbcl3> if the bug exists on edgy, can i fix it any other way? maybe renaming files?
[10:34] <sbcl3> i can't, it will take 400 things with it
[10:35] <intelikey> "can't" != "don't what to"
[10:35] <mirshafie> is there any way to synchronize bookmarks to a server with in konqueror?
[10:35] <sbcl3> what do i do after removing all of it? just compile? i don't really know how to do that
[10:36] <sbcl3> does the bug exist on edgy eft?
[10:36] <shyam> firefox scrolling not smooth...anyone know how to fix?
[10:37] <notech> sbcl3: which version are you on, breezy?
[10:37] <shyam> edgy eft
[10:38] <sbcl3> notech: i'm on the current stable
[10:38] <sbcl3> dapper, i think
[10:38] <qkr> is there a graphical SCP or SFTP client in kubuntu?
[10:39] <notech> sbcl3: what version of gamin do you have?
[10:39] <sbcl3> how do i find out, notech?
[10:39] <notech> sbcl3: got me, heh. i am not on kubuntu and hadn't spent enough time on it to learn that
[10:40] <joe3k> qkr: for scp you can use fish://user@server in konqueror
[10:40] <sbcl3> i can get the version on adept, i guess
[10:40] <Skrot_> or sftp://user@server i think
[10:40] <nhoult> does joystick configuration option show up for anyone in System Settings in Edgy?
[10:40] <joe3k> sbcl3: correct
[10:40] <sbcl3> notech: 0.1.7-2
[10:40] <intelikey> nhoult nothing shows up for me  :)
[10:40] <intelikey> blank page
[10:40] <sbcl3> er, 0.1.7-2ubuntu1 is what adept says
[10:40] <linx> can someone look at this: http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1cr1.png  pressing next ('volgende') in the installer wont destroy contents on /dev/hda6 will it? (strange thing is.. Disks & F/s lists that as /dev/hda5)
[10:40] <intelikey> oh sorry dapper here.
[10:41] <mirshafie> qkr : there's also kftpgrabber
[10:41] <sbcl3> notech, is there a version without the bug?
[10:41] <notech> sbcl3: srry, no idea. my google search says 0.1.7 fixed that
[10:41] <joe3k> nhoult: for me not
[10:42] <Ashex> I'm working on gettings windows on another disk, But the windows installer wants me to create a "windows-compatible" partition on the boot disk, which just happens to be a linux disk
[10:42] <nhoult> I have a joystick option in Dapper, but it seems to have disappeared in Edgy
[10:42] <sbcl3> i suppose i can just rename files to stop the program from running
[10:42] <Ashex> is there any way to snip off a bit off the end of the partition table without killing kubuntu?
[10:42] <joe3k> the system settings in edgy are somehow messed up
[10:42] <Ashex> my partitions are setup as such: http://www.chipnick.com/Bucket/partitions.jpg
[10:42] <qkr> ok thanks guys
[10:42] <joe3k> one can't even setup keyb layouts
[10:43] <intelikey> i think it's this kernel upgrade that hosed kde.   rebooting to check.
[10:43] <bill57785> I have a USB hub that doesn't work with kubuntu at the moment....do I need to install some drivers or something? It didn't come with anything because it was supposed to be plug and play
[10:44] <Ashex> bill57785, what's plugged into the hub
[10:45] <bill57785> well, I had a USB flash drive and a USB mouse plugged in (both which work fine when plugged directly into the mobo). They both get power (lighting up), but neither work
[10:46] <Ashex> check the connection itself
[10:46] <Ashex> usb hubs are universally plug&play
[10:47] <bill57785> well that's what I figured
[10:47] <bill57785> how can I check the connection though?
[10:48] <bill57785> it gets power (it has an LED), and I don't know how else to check
[10:50] <intelikey> knope it's knot the kernel      what is with my Xorg
[10:50] <BluesKaj> what's the install instruction for an extracted tar.bz2 program? ... there doesn't seem to be any installation exe in the file ... ?
[10:50] <intelikey> !tar
[10:50] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:50] <intelikey> !build
[10:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:51] <intelikey> BluesKaj  that ^
[10:51] <BluesKaj> they can be extracted but not installed
[10:51] <notech> once you untar it there should be a README or INSTALL
[10:51] <intelikey> yeah they can be installed after extraction
[10:51] <BluesKaj> there isn't
[10:51] <notech> poor app then
[10:51] <intelikey> BluesKaj it makes a dir with the same basename
[10:52] <zander_> test
[10:52] <BluesKaj> yeah ,what do ilook for in the dir ?
[10:52] <intelikey> example; tar -xf mynew.tar.bz2 ;cd mynew ;ls
[10:52] <nickv111> Hey. For some reason, I don't have an "Input" menu in KMix
[10:52] <nickv111> And I need it
[10:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj anything in uppercase
[10:53] <BluesKaj> ok
[10:53] <intelikey> uppercase is a standard for documentation
[10:54] <intelikey> README INSTALL BUILDING COMPILING HELP READ.THIS    and so on.
[10:54] <b0ng0> Hi, how can I downloaded the latest nvidia drivers that will work with Beryl
[10:56] <intelikey> BluesKaj also of note if there is a  configure  file  generally    ./configure --help    will get you started...    venella building with configure is    ./configure && make && sudo make install      but read any docs first.
[10:56] <intelikey> !nv
[10:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <b0ng0> are these the latest ones?
[10:56] <jujimufu> hey, I am interested in reasons why I should install debian instead of kubuntu. Any ideas?
[10:56] <jujimufu> I mean, if I were to choose one of the two
[10:56] <jujimufu> why should I choose kubuntu and not debian
[10:56] <jujimufu> or the other way around
[10:58] <BluesKaj> intelikey: there's an install.sh script
[10:58] <ubuntu_> what is this ioctl: LOOP_SET_FD: Invalid argument
[10:59] <intelikey> BluesKaj those are handy too
[10:59] <intelikey> BluesKaj i didn't try to give an exhostive list of ways implimented....
[11:00] <intelikey> "the attempt would have been futile"
[11:01] <BluesKaj> it's devede 26 , and I had this problem before with extracting files to afolder but then not being able to install them
[11:01] <intelikey> jujimufu distrowatch.com
[11:02] <intelikey> !b-e | BluesKaj
[11:02] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:03] <canine_kouji> mmm
[11:03] <lzap> hello all I have problem with upgrade Dapper->Edgy, the manual says: apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[11:03] <BluesKaj> ok, I 'll look for a better source , but still don't understand why there's no self installer
[11:03] <lzap> but it does nothing, the console is waiting, cpu/disc is not working... seems its waiting for something
[11:04] <intelikey> BluesKaj you do have build-essential installed ?
[11:04] <canine_kouji> the best way to upgrade is to already have a home partition, then just delete all the contents of the other partitions and install edgy
[11:04] <canine_kouji> but nooo. *ubuntu tries to stupidly slap people with a single partition, thankfully I manually partition
[11:04] <lzap> well I have tried "Y" and enter, but there was no message
[11:04] <we2by> hi
[11:05] <we2by> does some one have the lipstik 2.1 source?
[11:05] <canine_kouji> lipstik?
[11:05] <we2by> I can't find this old version on kde-look
[11:05] <canine_kouji> ohhhh
[11:05] <canine_kouji> http://www.filewatcher.com/m/18223-lipstik-2.1.tar.bz2.440602.0.0.html
[11:05] <we2by> canine_kouji, it is for bsd
[11:06] <canine_kouji> nooo
[11:06] <canine_kouji> it is a distfile, meaning it was downloaded from the lipstick distrib site
[11:06] <we2by> ok
[11:06] <canine_kouji> it is for all supported OSes, you said it is for KDE, then it is for all
[11:06] <we2by> gonna give it a try
[11:06] <we2by> my fonts are very ugly :(
[11:07] <lzap> oh where do I find apt-get log?
[11:08] <intelikey>  /var/logs/
[11:08] <intelikey> -s ?
[11:10] <lzap> dkpg.log thnx
[11:10] <Chris_Swift> /msg nickserv set hide email on
[11:15] <DralaFi> about to test 2.6.15 modified kernel
[11:15] <BluesKaj> intelikey:  i installed build-essential, but the ./configure gives me this: No such file or directory
[11:16] <DralaFi> maybe there's no configure file
[11:16] <intelikey> get in the right dir and run the install.sh
[11:16] <intelikey> ./install.sh
[11:16] <intelikey> maybe sudo that
[11:17] <zander> join #ubuntu
[11:17] <canine_kouji> no thanks
[11:17] <intelikey> ///
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[11:17] <zander> ///////////////////////////////////
[11:18] <DralaFi> YES!!!
[11:18] <canine_kouji> "I'm going to fkin kill ubuntu!"(Ballmer)
[11:18] <canine_kouji> :P
[11:19] <DralaFi> intelikey, got vanilla 2.6.15 compiled with same config as kubuntu-factory, with sata+scsi+ext[23]  compiled in, no initrd. KDE picks up usb thumb drive and creates desktop entry, media:/ entry and pops up the media actions window.
[11:19] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, is that before or after throwing a chair across the room?
[11:20] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: it would be after bug #1 has been accomplished ;)
[11:20] <DralaFi> intelikey, you were right about the kernel config theory. Many thanks. Now I need to figure out which option that was so I can get newer kernel.
[11:21] <canine_kouji> damn :/ I'm a geek yet my arms are getting too big for my geek shirts. Alaska has made a man out of me :(
[11:21] <DralaFi> haha
[11:21] <canine_kouji> too much steak and salmon
[11:21] <canine_kouji> and eating with a texan family
[11:21] <lzap> the last upgrade command outputs: error in regular expression - Invalid preceding regular expression
[11:21] <metres> Do anyone know why "find /boot/grub/stage1" respond (hd0,1) and (hd1,0) but when I do setup (hd1,0), il rpond "Error 12: Invalid device requested"
[11:21] <DralaFi> alaska sounds interesting. all that snow :)
[11:22] <lzap> its the: apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[11:22] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: I live in Homer, Alaska. There is some snow on the ground from the job a week ago.
[11:22] <canine_kouji> it is irregularly cold compared to last year
[11:22] <lzap> Homer like H. J. Simpson?
[11:22] <canine_kouji> heh
[11:22] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, I live in the UK, where we're lucky if we have snow :D
[11:22] <canine_kouji> ;)
[11:23] <DralaFi> didn't know Homer's middle name was 'J' :/
[11:23] <canine_kouji> I'e a cute malamute too, though she cut her foot on thanksgiving
[11:23] <melecio> need help =(
[11:23] <DralaFi> awww.. but I prefer cats :P
[11:24] <intelikey>     E: host 'ntp://pool.ntp.org' unreachable!
[11:24] <intelikey>        check you network connection.
[11:24] <canine_kouji> http://dogese.com/viewtopic.php?t=42
[11:24] <intelikey> hmmmm i wonder if my network connection is down ???
[11:24] <canine_kouji> The woundi s pretty deep, I wrapped the bandages really nicely
[11:24] <intelikey> i'll be back later.  perhaps!
[11:24] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: <3 Canines
[11:24] <melecio> Can somebody please help me out?
[11:24] <canine_kouji> melecio: no
[11:25] <DralaFi> melecio, I can't find any questions you asked.
[11:25] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: he is asking to ask, so I don't think he'll get much help ;)
[11:26] <melecio> alright i'll ask then
[11:26] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, I know. On other networks people just shout back "JUST ASK ALREADY!" :)
[11:26] <bobstro> yes, do!
[11:26] <canine_kouji> JUST ASK ALREADY!!111oneone!!!
[11:26] <DralaFi> *Gray
[11:26] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, lol
[11:26] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: I ran out, I'm stuck with black tea(not liptons, the chinese black tea)
[11:27] <metres> Do any have saw my question ?
[11:27] <lzap> ok I have Edgy now. where is Opera?
[11:27] <canine_kouji> there is coffee, but I had a cup yesterday. My body has sensitized to coffee and I feel poisoned if I have too much
[11:27] <lzap> what source to add in the sources.list?
[11:28] <metres> N grub specialist in the place ?!
[11:28] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: I dislike those commercial teas which really do make every tea taste like grass. Stash is the next best thing to starbucks(burned coffee)
[11:29] <canine_kouji> probably is a starbucks child too :/
[11:29] <crimsun> lzap: use the Ubuntu deb from opera's web site
[11:30] <melecio> I have a D946GZis Motherboard with GMA 3000 as built-in graphics... i was trying to install Google Earth and it gave me errors during the install... i asked around in a forum and someone told me it was that my graphics driver was not installed, but i can't find it anywhere... i'm on Kubuntu 6.10
[11:31] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, I like coffee, but too late for that. It's 22:37 here and i'd rather try to sleep at some 'normal' hour :). I used to drink coke, but it's too sugary and expensive and too acidic.
[11:32] <DralaFi> starbucks is awesome. only had it twice afaik
[11:32] <melecio> where can i find it?
[11:32] <bulwynkl> !LVM
[11:32] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[11:32] <DralaFi> melecio, no idea what a GMA 3000 is
[11:32] <bulwynkl> !postfix
[11:32] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[11:32] <evilkry> speaking of coffee I think i'm gonig to make some right ow
[11:32] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:33] <DralaFi> evilkry, don't tempt me :D
[11:34] <DralaFi> If only I could do something like git-bisect on the kernel .config :/
[11:38] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: I'd like you to say "starbucks is awesome" in Seattle
[11:38] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: then tell me how many people riot after you in a rage of "making you find the coffee god"
[11:38] <we2by> where are the kde themes located on kubuntu?
[11:38] <we2by> I just installed a theme by compiling it but I don't see it in the list
[11:39] <jhutchins> what's the difference between the i386 and i386 alternate iso?
[11:39] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, haha. Never been to the USA so can't comment :) although i'd like to visit Seattle just because that's where ZeroCool was arrested :D
[11:39] <canine_kouji> graphical vs text installer
[11:39] <we2by> any idea?
[11:40] <jhutchins> canine_kouji: alt being text, right?
[11:40] <melecio> What's GIT?
[11:40] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: oh, so you haven't ever had real coffee. You should order some from columbia or such. You can special order even small bags from places down there
[11:40] <canine_kouji> jhutchins: yes
[11:41] <canine_kouji> mmm, I found some white tea. white > black
[11:41] <we2by> where is kde installed on kubuntu?
[11:41] <canine_kouji> we2by: find / -name "kde*"
[11:43] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: In Alaska, we have places which order from the south and roast the beans here. I like ordering from seattle coffee and the local place here
[11:44] <asincrono> hi
[11:44] <DralaFi> we2by, --prefix=/usr
[11:44] <pippssa> hello all
[11:44] <asincrono> do u know some mirror where can I get beryl 0.1.2 packges for ubuntu edgy?
[11:45] <ocjeunesse> bonjour cherche ubuntu.fr
[11:45] <pippssa> I've just installed kubuntu edgy, why in the navigation panel in the folder root I can see only /home and /media and not the whole tree as usual?
[11:45] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, well I mostly use instant coffee
[11:45] <canine_kouji> 3141 opdpo
[11:45] <canine_kouji> f
[11:45] <canine_kouji> f
[11:45] <canine_kouji> f
[11:45] <canine_kouji> I just didn't see that
[11:45] <canine_kouji> instant coffeee?
[11:45] <canine_kouji> oh my god
[11:45] <DralaFi> :D
[11:46] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: how do you live with yourself?
[11:46] <ocjeunesse> kubuntu.fr
[11:46] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: where in the world do you live?
[11:46] <DralaFi> though my dad likes roast coffee beans to be ground and then cooked in water... but that's pretty string
[11:46] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, lol, UK
[11:46] <canine_kouji> DralaFi: I know you've real coffee there, do buy some and join the club :P
[11:46] <asincrono> and you can get untoasted coffe?
[11:47] <ocjeunesse> je cherche kubuntu francais
[11:47] <kovacsfp> Hi!
[11:47] <ocjeunesse> personne la
[11:47] <canine_kouji> its like the South Parh - WoW episode
[11:47] <canine_kouji> "get wow and install it on your computer before we all kill you"
[11:47] <we2by> where do I enable menu-transparency?
[11:47] <pippssa> why kde sees only /home and /media in the / folder?
[11:47] <canine_kouji> asincrono: you can order it in
[11:47] <tricasse> ocjeunesse> direction ubuntu-fr au mieux  mon avis, ici c'est en anglais
[11:47] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, will do :D
[11:47] <DralaFi> je pass le d'aspirateur
[11:48] <DralaFi> ocjeunesse, parle vous an angletaire
[11:48] <ocjeunesse> DralaFi oui je sais mais je n'arrive pas a trouver l'adresse
[11:49] <basquiat> pippssa: take a look at /.hidden - there you have directories specified which are hidden from kde.
[11:50] <pippssa> thanks basquiat
[11:50] <pippssa> can I delete the file?
[11:50] <basquiat> backups never hurt, but it won't harm your system. ;)
[11:51] <pippssa> thank you very much
[11:51] <canine_kouji> backups. hmm
[11:51] <canine_kouji> I'm thinking of getting a "My Book"
[11:51] <canine_kouji> not sure if I'm going to get the 500GB or 250
[11:51] <canine_kouji> maybe I'll go for a 320
[11:51] <slow-motion> n8
[11:51] <canine_kouji> the pro version has firewire b
[11:51] <canine_kouji> 800Mbps, power!
[11:52] <asincrono> 500 Great Britan it's beetter than 250? ... I'm not sure
[11:52] <canine_kouji> asincrono: well I might not need all the space :/
[11:53] <asincrono> if you don't need all the space you can give me someone?
[11:53] <canine_kouji> only if this was Second Life :P
[11:54] <canine_kouji> Second Life, the game for people with no 1st life
[11:55] <velle> hehe
[11:55] <canine_kouji> its like the WoW episode
[11:55] <DralaFi> canine_kouji, LOL
[11:55] <asincrono> what's the problem with WoW?
[11:56] <giometz> is it possible to change the default cpu frequencies in power management as it was possible in klaptop?
[11:56] <canine_kouji> I'm sure there will be a player with all the hacks and the SL admins will say"people, we are dealing with someone whose been playing second life for the past 3 years. We are dealing with somebody who has no life"
[11:56] <asincrono> btw ... I'm looking for guild ... shaman lvl 60 :P
[11:56] <canine_kouji> asincrono: haven't you seen the South Park -WoW episode
[11:56] <canine_kouji> ?
[11:56] <asincrono> yes I saw it
[11:57] <canine_kouji> :) then you know ;)
[11:57] <canine_kouji> "mom, more hot pockets!"
[11:57] <asincrono> there was boys with a noble cause
[11:58] <velle> i really want to watch that episode !
[11:58] <canine_kouji> "bathroom! Bathroom! *what hun* bathroom!" *diarhea spews all over the mom when she brings down the pan* "thats my big boy"
[11:58] <canine_kouji> velle: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgv4c_south-park-wow
[11:59] <asincrono> you can saw the episode in youtube too.
[11:59] <canine_kouji> I'm on a low grade dsl connection and I was able to watch it
[11:59] <velle> canine_kouji: "this content has been censored", but ill get it from a friend
[11:59] <ehird> hi,
[11:59] <asincrono> hi
[12:00] <ehird> does anybody know if support for wacom usb tablets is built-in to the kernel?
[12:00] <canine_kouji> velle: the heck, do you have netnany enabled or something?
[12:00] <ehird> considering using one instead of a mouse...
[12:00] <grimweb> why will my X only start when I am user ROOT?
[12:00] <ehird> grimweb: that's how x works
[12:00] <canine_kouji> hmm
[12:00] <velle> canine_kouji: ahhhh... i dont even know what nethany is ...
[12:00] <grimweb> ehird?
[12:00] <canine_kouji> anyone know if those PCMCIA video cards work under linux?
[12:01] <grimweb> depends which one
[12:01] <canine_kouji> I've a dual head right now, I'd like to use trihead
[12:01] <velle> canine_kouji: but i better do some work now anyway :)
[12:01] <canine_kouji> velle: I'm working on my cherrypy work :
[12:01] <grimweb> !google pcmcia video cards
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google pcmcia video cards - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <canine_kouji> I've to make dogese.com more popular than seefido. seefido are full of stupid fucking PETA lovers
[12:02] <velle> canine_kouji: im working on cherrypy too :) but as a total newbie, my first site in python
[12:02] <canine_kouji> grimweb: yes, but they don't say if they work on linux
[12:02] <LjL> !language | canine_kouji
[12:02] <ubotu> canine_kouji: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:02] <canine_kouji> velle: I've used many languages for web stuff
[12:02] <canine_kouji> even C, but that was a pita
[12:02] <grimweb> try searching www.google.nl/linux
[12:02] <ehird> grimweb: hm k
[12:03] <LjL> !offtopic
[12:03] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[12:03] <canine_kouji> why can't kubuntu have music like OpenBSD has? :/
[12:03] <grimweb> ?
[12:04] <canine_kouji> last openbsd song spun off this jewish song
[12:04] <grimweb> Amarok is the best app, isn't it?
[12:04] <canine_kouji> grimweb: I mean song per release
[12:04] <canine_kouji> like openbsd. they release a song for every release
[12:04] <grimweb> oh.. ok
[12:04] <grimweb> you can make one
[12:05] <grimweb> I'm sure all effords to promoting kubuntu are welcome
[12:05] <canine_kouji> grimweb: mark would probably shoot it down
[12:05] <grimweb> actually I read something about sounds fro KDE4 lately
[12:06] <MetaBookfoziS> hey all, i have a konqueror issue
[12:06] <MetaBookfoziS> my filebrowser section's background is black
[12:07] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i fix that?
[12:07] <grimweb> I'm dropping nv driver again
[12:07] <grimweb> I think NV is my problem
[12:07] <grimweb> anybody got a good tip for installing the nv driver? NOT !nvidia, as that doesn't work here
[12:08] <asincrono> you don't need to install nv driver
[12:08] <canine_kouji> grimweb: install the nv driveR? what is wrong with it? it is provided with the Xorg distribution :/
[12:08] <asincrono> it's allready compiled as module
[12:08] <grimweb> I know, but it keeps breaking down every so many boot ups
[12:08] <canine_kouji> huh
[12:09] <canine_kouji> grimweb: you sure its not your hard drive?
[12:09] <grimweb> I tried Nvidia bin drivers as well (repo)
[12:09] <grimweb> works as VESA, but then I can't watch movies
[12:09] <canine_kouji> grimweb: what card?
[12:10] <canine_kouji> I'm betting it is a 3rd party card or chipset using nvidia
[12:10] <grimweb> nVidia GeForce 4
[12:10] <we2by> how do I disable the minimize effect?
[12:10] <canine_kouji> grimweb: no, I know the chipset is nv, but what is the card. who did you get it from?
[12:10] <grimweb> nope, plain nVidia card
[12:10] <canine_kouji> grimweb: does it have a 3rd party label on it?
[12:10] <canine_kouji> or graphic
[12:10] <grimweb> nope
[12:11] <grimweb> just nVidia
[12:11] <canine_kouji> could be a bad nvidia card
[12:11] <canine_kouji> yes, it would work at first and crash, I've had them.
[12:11] <grimweb> It worked on OpenSuSE
[12:11] <canine_kouji> oh
[12:11] <canine_kouji> grimweb: you weren't grabbed by Mark Shuttleworth's letter were you? ;)
[12:11] <grimweb> with binairy drivers
[12:11] <grimweb> nope, before that
[12:11] <canine_kouji> grimweb: dmesg|grep nv