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lotusleaf | Burgundavia: did you finish that bit you were working on earlier? | 01:50 |
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lotusleaf | on that topic, I noticed something interesting, in this article: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/10/16/corel.linux.on.ms.idg/index.html it mentions "Why the partnership with Microsoft? Rene Schmidt: Fundamentally -- you've probably heard [new Corel CEO] Derek [Burney] mention it in the past -- the friendship that we've had in the past with Microsoft is something that we want to bring back to the | 01:52 |
lotusleaf | mainframe. | 01:52 |
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lotusleaf | " which is interesting. Curious, how long has the latest Novell CEO served? | 01:52 |
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lotusleaf | yo jono | 02:06 |
jono | hey | 02:07 |
jenda | hey there jono | 02:07 |
poningru | jono: if you wanted to look at the spec | 02:28 |
poningru | jono: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/loco-press-releases | 02:30 |
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jono | poningru: looking now :) | 02:47 |
poningru | thanks | 02:47 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: yo | 02:47 |
Madpilot | hi | 02:47 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: how goes? | 02:48 |
Madpilot | good | 02:48 |
lotusleaf | r0x0r, is UWN #23 being decended upon yet? | 02:48 |
jono | poningru: looks good | 02:54 |
jono | I think we need to get more press releases translated | 02:54 |
jono | I think should be a goal for Feisty | 02:54 |
poningru | :) | 03:08 |
poningru | sweet | 03:12 |
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somerville32 | Are we going to try to get UWN#23 out tonight? | 05:46 |
Madpilot | didn't 22 just come out a few days ago? | 05:46 |
lotusleaf | somerville32: I inquired earlier but received no response | 05:46 |
lotusleaf | busy busy people! :) | 05:46 |
somerville32 | 23 is suppose to be for today-7 | 05:47 |
somerville32 | haha | 05:47 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1807725&postcount=96 | 05:47 |
somerville32 | I'm guessing 22 was late | 05:47 |
Burgundavia | 23 out tonight or tomorrow | 05:47 |
Burgundavia | I am not feeling the greatest right now | 05:47 |
elkbuntu | :( sick? | 05:47 |
Burgundavia | yep | 05:48 |
Burgundavia | slept most of today | 05:48 |
elkbuntu | :( | 05:48 |
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Burgundavia | oh, joy, I have hit slashdot | 05:48 |
lotusleaf | Burgundavia: did you sleep at all or did you stay up all night on that blog post? :P | 05:48 |
Burgundavia | http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/11/26/0152225.shtml | 05:49 |
Burgundavia | went to bed around 4ish, feeling fine | 05:49 |
Burgundavia | got up around noon, felt like crap | 05:49 |
lotusleaf | :/ | 05:49 |
Burgundavia | so I lazed around and read | 05:49 |
lotusleaf | load up on vitamins ;) | 05:49 |
lotusleaf | afk making a post ;) | 05:50 |
somerville32 | Burgundavia: Btw, I applied to the ubuntu-wiki team - just to let you know. <g> | 05:51 |
Burgundavia | saw that | 05:51 |
somerville32 | Am I all good? | 05:52 |
Madpilot | hi Burgundavia | 05:53 |
Burgundavia | hey Madpilot | 05:53 |
Madpilot | got heat yet? | 05:53 |
Burgundavia | nope | 05:54 |
elkbuntu | Burgundavia, i'd like to advise you to go for tomorrow with UWN. | 05:54 |
Burgundavia | that is the plan | 05:55 |
somerville32 | I'll tinker away at it :] | 05:57 |
elkbuntu | somerville32, please steer clear of the suse invitation/ open day/ mark's posts thing for now | 05:59 |
lotusleaf | Burgundavia: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=208360&cid=16989666 | 06:00 |
Burgundavia | right | 06:00 |
somerville32 | elkbuntu: lol, Yeah... I agree. | 06:00 |
somerville32 | All the fighting makes me fatigued. | 06:01 |
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somerville32 | :D | 06:02 |
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somerville32 | Any ideas for a feature of the week? | 06:07 |
Burgundavia | I think we should swap out the feature for the week for a spec of the week section | 06:08 |
Madpilot | Feature of the Week: How to Poach Devs From Other Projects, by SABDFL </me ducks> | 06:09 |
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lotusleaf | Madpilot: with a side of lemon? :) | 06:09 |
Madpilot | poached in a white wine sauce, maybe | 06:09 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: don't tell me, you're going to make a new "sabdfl has a posse" poster, with a gecko :) | 06:10 |
somerville32 | What about a "Featured Community Member" of the week in the future? | 06:10 |
Burgundavia | I would rather kick the behindubuntu people to do more interviews | 06:10 |
Madpilot | lotusleaf, you mean w/ the Suse iguana logo? hmmm... <evil grin> | 06:10 |
Burgundavia | we could have a group of zulu warriors roasting a large lizard | 06:11 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: haha, ya.. or Chameleon, whatever it is. ;) | 06:11 |
lotusleaf | lol | 06:11 |
somerville32 | Did we do a feature of the week on Joshker (sp) yet? | 06:12 |
Burgundavia | nope, but it is not the repos and thus does not qualify | 06:13 |
somerville32 | Whats the reqs for a featured specification? | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | 1) not have already been featured | 06:14 |
Burgundavia | 2) see 1) | 06:14 |
somerville32 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/winmodem-support ? | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | yep | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | try and group similar spec together in a single writeup | 06:15 |
Burgundavia | focus on end user specs | 06:15 |
somerville32 | Yep thats already been done or yep I can feature that spec? | 06:16 |
Burgundavia | only featured spec was last week, with network services and something else networky | 06:16 |
Burgundavia | anyway, I need to get some exercise, so will be back in a bit | 06:18 |
somerville32 | kk | 06:19 |
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elkbuntu | we need to stop using the word 'poach'. it is merely a highly targeted recruitment drive : | 06:23 |
lotusleaf | elkbuntu: exactly, I like this comment on the issue: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=208360&cid=16989482 | 06:26 |
lotusleaf | it's about choice | 06:27 |
elkbuntu | lotusleaf, there's still a matter of how you go about presenting choice | 06:27 |
lotusleaf | elkbuntu: and how did Microsoft present choice to Novell? | 06:27 |
elkbuntu | with dollarsigns | 06:28 |
Madpilot | Anyone know what email address jenda uses for paypal? I owe for a couple of posters... | 06:28 |
elkbuntu | Madpilot, @ubuntu | 06:28 |
Madpilot | k, thanks | 06:28 |
lotusleaf | it just goes to show, everyone has an opinion, and the especially negative ones get the most press | 06:29 |
somerville32 | Ok | 06:32 |
somerville32 | Wrote the feature specification section | 06:32 |
somerville32 | Can I write something about the Xubuntu meeting that happened today/ | 06:35 |
somerville32 | It is the first Xubuntu meeting in almost a year, haha | 06:35 |
elkbuntu | o.O wha? | 06:36 |
elkbuntu | first in a year.. that's.. um.... | 06:37 |
lotusleaf | I guess they finally found the X on the map ;) | 06:39 |
somerville32 | I'm just joking | 06:39 |
somerville32 | lol | 06:39 |
somerville32 | It's been 6 months though since their last one | 06:40 |
somerville32 | Well.. our last one | 06:40 |
somerville32 | haha | 06:40 |
elkbuntu | thats still poor form | 06:40 |
Madpilot | until Friday, it had probably been that long since the last DocTeam meeting, so the Xubuntu folks aren't alone | 06:40 |
tonyyarusso | Madpilot: How was the rest of that? | 06:41 |
somerville32 | Pretty good, haha | 06:42 |
somerville32 | I tried to milk free work from them... | 06:42 |
somerville32 | didn't work :( | 06:42 |
Madpilot | tonyyarusso, rest of what? I missed the entire DocTeam meeting, if that's what you mean | 06:42 |
tonyyarusso | Madpilot: Oh, right. nvm | 06:42 |
somerville32 | Ok, listed this week's security reports | 06:43 |
lotusleaf | great, on the /. " Mark Shuttleworth Tries to Lure OpenSUSE Devs" article, there's a flash ad for Novell | 06:44 |
poningru | hehe | 06:46 |
somerville32 | Does anyone want to give me some advice on if I'm ready to apply for membership or not yet? | 06:47 |
tonyyarusso | I could ask the same, so I'd probably be a poor reference ;) | 06:52 |
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somerville32 | hehe | 06:54 |
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towsonu2003 | whoever CodySomerville is, pls send him/her a special thanks from me for including winmodem spec into the weekly newsletter #3 :) | 06:55 |
tonyyarusso | lotusleaf: Dunno, but you can get alligator on a stick at the State Fair | 06:55 |
lotusleaf | tonyyarusso: no kiddin? | 06:55 |
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tonyyarusso | lotusleaf: Of course. along with all sorts of other weird stuff. | 06:55 |
Madpilot | deep-fried alligator on a stick? | 06:55 |
tonyyarusso | Deep fried Snickers bar on a stick? | 06:55 |
tonyyarusso | Madpilot: Yes. | 06:56 |
tonyyarusso | Deep fried ice cream on a stick? | 06:56 |
Madpilot | cool. All good fair/carnival food is deep fried | 06:56 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: poster idea: BBQ pit (circle) and over it roasts three lizards, all placed nicely into a logo ;) | 06:56 |
tonyyarusso | Cheese curds on a stick? | 06:56 |
tonyyarusso | Madpilot: and on a stick. That's crucial. | 06:56 |
lotusleaf | tonyyarusso: crikey, I gots to try some, mate | 06:56 |
Madpilot | lotusleaf, um, we aren't *actually* trying to offend Suse people, you know ;) | 06:56 |
tonyyarusso | There are also fairgrounds maps on a stick, pickles on a stick | 06:56 |
lotusleaf | Madpilot: I never suggested such a thing =) | 06:57 |
tonyyarusso | lotusleaf: Just show up in Falcon Heights, Minnesota around Labor Day | 06:57 |
lotusleaf | tonyyarusso: do you frequent that largest mall in America place? | 06:58 |
tonyyarusso | lotusleaf: God no. | 06:58 |
lotusleaf | haha, why, does it suck? | 06:58 |
somerville32 | What else can I do for UWN#23? | 06:58 |
tonyyarusso | Only time I ever go there is if I need to get shoes from Nordstroms, but now I fit into Rockports, so I haven't been in a few years. | 06:58 |
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jenda | Mr. Shuttleworth is one bright business man... | 12:58 |
lotusleaf | yes indeed | 12:58 |
lotusleaf | I, for one, welcome our sabdfl overlord | 12:59 |
tsmithe | jenda, how do you mean? | 01:01 |
jenda | tsmithe: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061125-8286.html | 01:02 |
tsmithe | oh... the opensuse post | 01:02 |
tsmithe | hmm | 01:02 |
lotusleaf | tsmithe: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=208360&cid=16989666 | 01:03 |
jenda | I mean it in a good way in terms of capabilities - he is very good at mapping the circumstances, and acting accordingly. The Ubuntu Open Week is a 'great' opportunity... what if some of those devs just do come and listen in for a bit? | 01:03 |
lotusleaf | jenda: I agree | 01:03 |
jenda | I don't have an opinion on teh correctness yet, though. | 01:03 |
tsmithe | me neither | 01:04 |
lotusleaf | jenda: I think he made a smart move | 01:04 |
tsmithe | definitely | 01:04 |
jenda | It seems to me very... business-man-like. It is wrong, but was worth it ;) | 01:04 |
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jenda | Definitely a smart move, not sure if a wise move, though. | 01:04 |
lotusleaf | jenda: what happens in the business world to people who don't take risks? | 01:04 |
tsmithe | yes | 01:05 |
tsmithe | lotusleaf, they get bought out! or bust | 01:05 |
lotusleaf | or they sell out | 01:05 |
tsmithe | sell out, get bought out, same thing | 01:05 |
lotusleaf | yup | 01:05 |
jenda | lotusleaf: there is taking risks, and there is morality. | 01:05 |
lotusleaf | jenda: I understand both sides, and expressed myself in a few posts about it. | 01:06 |
jenda | speaking of moves - a chess allegory - there is no such thing as a smart but unwise move in chess, as chess is a war, without rules. Here, however, we aren't at war, not near it. And there definitely are rules. | 01:06 |
jenda | I have to read a bit :) | 01:06 |
lotusleaf | jenda: IMO the war's been on-going for some time now | 01:07 |
jenda | There is a war, true, but OpenSuSE and Ubuntu are on the same side. | 01:07 |
lotusleaf | I've been around for long enough to observe certain companies involved and their history, I didn't cut my teeth on 95, 98, xp, I was around long before that | 01:08 |
lotusleaf | jenda: then openweek should be interesting, no? :) | 01:09 |
jenda | Definitely. | 01:10 |
jenda | I believe some of the 'other' devs that come and see it might even really sitch. | 01:10 |
jenda | switch | 01:10 |
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lotusleaf | jenda: agreed | 01:11 |
jenda | So... | 01:11 |
jenda | for us, who's hands are clean and didn't troll on the OpenSuSE ML, it's a win-win ;) | 01:12 |
jenda | Mark is the only one who gets the blame. | 01:12 |
lotusleaf | jenda: very true, but google lotusleaf suse and tell me the first thing you see :P | 01:12 |
jenda | lotusleaf: "Young sexy virgins alone at home with webcams" - is that what you meant? | 01:14 |
lotusleaf | I've seen a couple of other people, I won't mention names, come to forums and lists and plug their distro and ask for help, too though | 01:14 |
lotusleaf | uh... no | 01:14 |
jenda | that's the first result, but the second is: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showforum=48 | 01:14 |
jenda | ;) | 01:14 |
lotusleaf | yeah, right :P | 01:14 |
lotusleaf | for me it's "<lotusleaf> I dual booted my SUSE and Windows CDs into the trash can" | 01:14 |
lotusleaf | when that topic was set in #ubuntu-offtopic | 01:15 |
lotusleaf | ya, I used to be a suse user, I enjoyed it for awhile | 01:15 |
jenda | yeah, I get that as #4 or so | 01:15 |
jenda | "Also, Welcome lotusleaf as our official updater for our Latest Versions section" | 01:15 |
jenda | ooh | 01:15 |
lotusleaf | yup | 01:15 |
lotusleaf | I killed a lot of my time with that | 01:15 |
jenda | on ' tI recognize you from suseforums ? Get tired of SuSE ? I did too ... | 01:16 |
lotusleaf | I modded two different unofficial suse forums | 01:16 |
jenda | hehe | 01:16 |
jenda | the diversity is what the linux world is about. | 01:16 |
lotusleaf | still wish Ubuntu had something [with a GUI] to configure/set refresh rates like SUSE's sax2 | 01:16 |
lotusleaf | oh, agreed | 01:17 |
tsmithe | but yast is so slow! | 01:18 |
jenda | UBuntu seriously lacks on GUI config apps. | 01:18 |
tsmithe | yeah, agreed | 01:18 |
jenda | I don't mind - but my disciples do :) | 01:18 |
lotusleaf | tsmithe: yeah, I'm not suggesting yast as a whole | 01:18 |
jenda | disciples = converts | 01:18 |
tsmithe | i know | 01:18 |
lotusleaf | jenda: heh, agreed | 01:18 |
tsmithe | hopefully, though, with Xorg 7.3, we won't need much gui config, or config at all | 01:19 |
lotusleaf | tsmithe: yeah, but when I give newbies ubuntu, they should have some type of refresh rate changer | 01:19 |
tsmithe | inde3ed | 01:19 |
tsmithe | *ideed | 01:19 |
tsmithe | *indeed | 01:19 |
tsmithe | even | 01:19 |
lotusleaf | it'll come, in time | 01:19 |
lotusleaf | it's not like it's rocket science | 01:19 |
jenda | lotusleaf: you meant the spelling of 'indeed'? | 01:25 |
lotusleaf | lol | 01:26 |
lotusleaf | no, I meant the app(s) | 01:26 |
lotusleaf | but thanks for the chuckle | 01:26 |
lotusleaf | :) | 01:26 |
jenda | 01:35 | |
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KenSentMe | jenda: KABOOM | 04:15 |
jenda | oink | 04:15 |
KenSentMe | jenda: i've received your posters, thanks for sending them | 04:16 |
jenda | KenSentMe: any news? | 04:16 |
jenda | hehe :) | 04:16 |
jenda | cool | 04:16 |
jenda | was happy to. How are they? | 04:16 |
KenSentMe | They look nice | 04:16 |
tsmithe | they *are* nice | 04:16 |
tsmithe | b-e-a-u--tiful | 04:17 |
tonyyarusso | poningru: ping? | 04:20 |
jenda | hehe | 04:21 |
jenda | don't argue, please ;) | 04:21 |
tsmithe | who's arguing? | 04:22 |
jenda | just kidding. | 04:22 |
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tonyyarusso | Any Gobby/sobby experts about? | 04:24 |
tsmithe | why? | 04:25 |
tsmithe | i might be able to help | 04:25 |
tonyyarusso | From what I can tell so far, the host of the session just saves all of the files and system log stuff in one file in it's own little format. | 04:26 |
tonyyarusso | I'd like to have it directly edit files on the system. | 04:26 |
tonyyarusso | Like, be able to run sobby hosting all files in /var/www/somesubdir, and log in with folks to edit them and have them go live immediately on autosave (determined by autosaveinterval) | 04:27 |
tsmithe | hmm i dunno | 04:28 |
tsmithe | :( | 04:28 |
tonyyarusso | Nuts | 04:28 |
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tsmithe | you'll probably do better poking around, cos i have no idea | 04:28 |
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somerville32 | So, are we going to mention the open suse thing in UWN or not? | 07:41 |
tonyyarusso | poningru: ping? | 07:51 |
jenda | poningru is in high demand these days. | 07:53 |
poningru | tonyyarusso: pong | 07:57 |
poningru | sorry | 07:57 |
tonyyarusso | poningru: I have a sobby question, and you're the only one I know who uses it ;) | 07:58 |
poningru | whatup | 07:58 |
tonyyarusso | Rather than having everything stored in the special sobby file, I want to be able to edit files on the system live. | 07:58 |
poningru | yeah it wont let you do that | 07:59 |
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tonyyarusso | Like, have sobby load all of /var/www/somesubdir/*, and be able to edit them directly | 07:59 |
tonyyarusso | Why the heck not? | 07:59 |
poningru | I tried to do it that way... but I cant | 07:59 |
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tonyyarusso | sad | 07:59 |
poningru | indeed | 07:59 |
poningru | sobby has like zero management utilities | 08:00 |
tonyyarusso | Copy/paste is a wee bit annoying, especially if I want them to end up on that (x-less) machine ultimately. | 08:00 |
tonyyarusso | Is there an e-mail address for sobby devs? | 08:00 |
poningru | havent really looked around | 08:00 |
poningru | I was thinking of hacking something together | 08:00 |
poningru | havent really gotten around to it | 08:00 |
tonyyarusso | If you succeed, let me know. | 08:00 |
poningru | yeah... | 08:01 |
tonyyarusso | I was hoping to use it to develop a web site with someone who is just learning html, so being able to show her editing the docs and discuss what I'm doing would be great. | 08:01 |
poningru | I might as well make it my christmas project | 08:01 |
tonyyarusso | :) | 08:01 |
poningru | ah nice | 08:02 |
poningru | gobby also has modular design supposedly | 08:03 |
poningru | we need to incorporate that into abiword or OOo | 08:03 |
poningru | as in libgobby or something | 08:03 |
tonyyarusso | Ooooo, I like | 08:03 |
poningru | ooh gobby integrated into vi | 08:06 |
tonyyarusso | I think they're working on emacs | 08:07 |
poningru | yeah looks like they are working on gobby fully and not paying attention to sobby | 08:08 |
somerville32 | What is sobby? | 08:09 |
poningru | its the server implementation of gobby | 08:10 |
somerville32 | Ah. | 08:17 |
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MenZa | HAI | 08:34 |
somerville32 | Anyone want to prove UWN23 for me? | 08:35 |
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tsmithe | prove? | 09:27 |
poningru | proof read | 09:28 |
poningru | uh frack | 09:28 |
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jenda | guys, is the UWN still open? | 10:44 |
jenda | Burgundavia? | 10:44 |
Burgundavia | yep | 10:44 |
Burgundavia | going to be working on it soonish | 10:44 |
jenda | I have something regarding flash9 | 10:44 |
jenda | but I realised I don't really understand it. | 10:45 |
jenda | mind if I paste a few lines of IRC convo with jdong? | 10:45 |
jenda | I take that as a no... | 10:45 |
jenda | <jdong> jenda: I'm about to approve flashplugin9 for Dapper-backports | 10:45 |
jenda | <jdong> jenda: BUT, it requires DEBIAN_FRONTEND=interactive in order to isntall | 10:45 |
jenda | <jdong> jenda: just like the sun Java stuff | 10:45 |
jenda | <jdong> jenda: so, in the backported package section, I need mention along with flashplayer that if you experience a dpkg configure error, run DEBIAN_FRONTEND=interactive dpkg --configure -a | 10:46 |
jenda | there, that's it. | 10:46 |
jenda | Burgundavia: what do you make of it? | 10:46 |
Burgundavia | yep, that is reasonable | 10:46 |
jenda | he wanted it mentioned in the UWN | 10:46 |
jenda | ok | 10:46 |
Burgundavia | put it in the dapper section | 10:46 |
jenda | Could I ask you to put it in? I honestly don't understand it. | 10:47 |
jenda | I have no idea what it means :) | 10:47 |
jenda | So no idea how to word it for the UWN. | 10:47 |
jenda | _pleaaase_ | 10:48 |
Burgundavia | right | 10:57 |
Burgundavia | mention that it is about to be backproted | 10:57 |
Burgundavia | if people are having issues installing it, they might need to run that command | 10:57 |
jenda | ok... | 10:57 |
jenda | Burgundavia: one more thing, gobby or wiki? | 10:58 |
Burgundavia | wiki | 10:58 |
jenda | k | 10:58 |
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jenda | Burgundavia: on another note, I'm sending a free poster to the winner of next week's trivia quiz in #ubuntu-trivia. Mind if I add a bit about it? | 11:03 |
Burgundavia | yep, sure | 11:10 |
tsmithe | jenda: i won yesterdays... maybe it'll be me! | 11:19 |
jenda | hmm... | 11:20 |
tsmithe | mmh? | 11:20 |
jenda | If it is, I'll stick to my promise, and send you the poster, unless you decide to donate it to the next weeks quiz, since you've already got 15 :) | 11:20 |
jenda | or 10 or so. | 11:20 |
jenda | But you're free not to, of course. | 11:21 |
jenda | Just as any other winer. | 11:21 |
tsmithe | oh, the same kind? i'll donate it by default then | 11:21 |
jenda | cool ;) | 11:21 |
tsmithe | i thought you could've got a new batch | 11:22 |
tsmithe | dunno why... | 11:22 |
jenda | nah, I still have 150 left. | 11:22 |
tsmithe | cool... rate slowed? | 11:22 |
jenda | yes :) | 11:24 |
dotwaffle | I was tempted to get one for our event, but knowing our campus, it'll just get graffiti over it or ripped. | 11:33 |
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