[12:15] Isn't it Herd, not Hord? [12:16] oh [12:16] Herd then === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:16] hello lophyte [12:16] :) [12:18] Hm, LP really doesn't render well in elinks. [12:18] Fujitsu, the whole ajax thing would pretty much screw you over too, i would think [12:20] elkbuntu: There's no AJAX in LP, AFAIK... [12:20] what is the standards and debhelper build depend for feisty? [12:21] 3.7.2.2 and 5.0.0? [12:21] Fujitsu: Turn off columns/tables [12:21] I have no problem with it like that [12:23] anyone know? [12:24] Fujitsu, fine then, whatever is the funky stuff that changes stuff without changing url [12:25] joejaxx: I'd keep it simple and go with 3.7.2 and 5.0 [12:26] elkbuntu: LP uses plone I think [12:26] elkbuntu: you a kde'er? === Fujitsu is a nothinger at the moment. [12:26] LaserJock, nto really, but i have a kde feisty on my laptop [12:26] Console forever! [12:28] LaserJock, is there a reason you ask? [12:33] elkbuntu: oh, I like to know who I can run to when I get in the KDE mood [12:33] ;-) [12:34] ha === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === predius [n=predius@201.230.127.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:46] well the update is going [12:48] ? Unknown desktop package: mkisofs [12:48] ? Unknown desktop package: cdrecord [12:48] these are not in feisty? [12:49] let me see [12:49] I remember that coming up [12:50] <[A] ndy80> admin123: ok, I'm reading the document you told me before: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l1 but I can't understand.... do I have to use the reportbug tool to request a package to be included in debian? [12:51] [A] ndy80: you don't have to but it is handy === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-110-175.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === erik1397 [n=Owner@ip68-105-165-180.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:53] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: are there other ways to request a package to be included in debian? [12:53] by email [12:54] Does anyone know whether the program Tovid will be in the feisty repos? [12:55] erik1397: I take it it isn't in feisty currently? [12:56] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: ok, I'll try to use it but I think it's a bit complcated :) [12:56] [A] ndy80: yep [12:56] LaserJock: cdrecord and mkisofs are on the ubuntu feisty seeds [12:56] hmm [12:57] erik1397: I see a tovid package is on REVU [12:57] LaserJock: nope [12:57] erik1397: so it looks like it is being worked on [12:57] LaserJock: where? [12:57] o awesome [12:57] erik1397: revu.tauware.de [01:00] awesome [01:01] do you think it'll be in feisty though? or do you think that it wont make it until feisty+1? [01:01] we're still pretty early in feisty [01:01] and it looks like jdong is doing it [01:01] extremely early [01:01] so I would imagine it should be in Feisty no problem [01:02] LaserJock: i wonder why it is doing that [01:02] ogra: you're alive! [01:02] skipping cdrecord and mkisofs [01:02] ogra: hello [01:02] LaserJock: thanks for the good news [01:02] ogra: after reading your blog post I wondered if Poland had swallowed you [01:03] LaserJock, sure, i'll fly out on monday morning... if i'm alive afetr returning you can congratulate ;) [01:03] you see, my most popular how-to in the ubuntu forums concerns that program, but installation for it is kinda tricky [01:03] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: the output of reportbug is quite different from the output described in the document... for example it asks me the versione of the package, the problem with the package ecc... [01:03] ogra: haha, will do [01:03] <[A] ndy80> like it was a real bug report [01:03] LaserJock, actually it's really nice here, we should have a conf here [01:03] so having it in the repos would be awesome [01:03] <[A] ndy80> there's no problem with the package, I just want to submit it :) [01:03] (apart from the fact that everything is made from pork) [01:03] i guess i should just contact jdong for details, right? [01:04] [A] ndy80: did you pick wnpp for the package? [01:04] (whats not pork is imported ) [01:04] ogra: well, get Canonical to send me and I'll go ;-) [01:04] erik1397: yeah [01:05] k === erik1397 [n=Owner@ip68-105-165-180.ga.at.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:05] hehe, i'll work on it ... the wimen are *extrmely* beautiful, the beer is good, prices are very cheap, you just cant get a steak anywhere ... [01:05] lol steak === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] joejaxx, dont laugh ... after having pork for a week in *everything* you will understand :) [01:06] ogra: :) [01:07] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: what is wnpp? [01:07] ogra: i whould how far poland is from the usa [01:07] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: I just did reportbug --email username@domain.tld wnpp [01:08] <[A] ndy80> like the document say to do === joejaxx tries to calculate [01:09] its still on CET ... (on the edge) [01:09] err CEST [01:09] [A] ndy80: ok, and what did it ask you? [01:10] ogra: We could not calculate driving directions between New Jersey, USA and Poland. haha [01:10] haha [01:10] you couldnt calculate polish trasport either ;) [01:10] ;) [01:10] *transport [01:11] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: Please enter the version of the package this report applies to (blank OK) [01:11] <[A] ndy80> then... [01:11] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: Please briefly describe your problem (you can elaborate in a moment; an empty response will stop reportbug). This should be a concise summary of what is [01:11] <[A] ndy80> wrong with the package, ecc.... [01:14] [A] ndy80: look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=397254 for an example of what to put [01:14] Debian bug 397254 in wnpp "RFP: 3gpwiz -- Convert almost any movie type to a format (3gp/mp4) for mobile phones" [Wishlist,Open] [01:14] can anyone create an event at OpenWeek? [01:14] no [01:14] joejaxx, you should contact jono if you want to do anything [01:14] ok that is what i thought [01:14] you should talk to Jono if you want something [01:16] oh [01:16] i do not think my subject whould benefit anyone anyway haha [01:19] oh well [01:19] back to packaging === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:26] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: mmm.... understanding how this utility works is harder than writing the entire application :( [01:26] when is openweek again im too lazy to read the wiki right now [01:27] [A] ndy80: what's it doing now? [01:27] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: I'll try to publish somewhere my utility... then... if someone want to include it in debian/ubuntu, will have all my greetings ;) [01:27] zul: starts Monday [01:27] <[A] ndy80> ah... [01:27] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: it opened me a texteditor... but I don't know what to write inside.... packagename is set to wnpp [01:27] <[A] ndy80> but it should contain my package name (smartfan) [01:28] <[A] ndy80> then.. it told me that description was too long and I didn't specify the url where to find the package! [01:28] <[A] ndy80> absurd.... [01:28] <[A] ndy80> I think they should have at least a web based submit tool [01:28] <[A] ndy80> easier to use [01:28] <[A] ndy80> else is a big waste of time [01:29] [A] ndy80: this is debian we are talking about. They do everything via email [01:29] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: this explain me a lot of things ;) [01:30] <[A] ndy80> LaserJock: isn't possible to include a package in ubuntu that is not included in debian? [01:32] [A] ndy80: yes it is === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@155.143.139.95] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] hi bddebian [02:04] Heya LaserJock, how's it going? === Gervystar [n=alessand@host91-160-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] bddebian: it's going [02:06] I actually got some code committed on an upstream [02:06] Nice [02:06] I'm pretty happy about that [02:06] it should be included in a release this weekend [02:07] Very cool. What package? [02:07] <_MMA_> LaserJock: ChemTools? [02:07] gchemutils [02:08] Ah cool [02:08] I got to learn a little C++ and Glade [02:08] Ugh, C++ scares me :-) [02:08] helped fix some bugs to do what I wanted [02:08] I feel kinda productive ;-) [02:09] Heh, I wish I did [02:16] well, I won't let it go to my head ;-) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:43] anyone know of a guide to learning c or c++ for those who get bored quickly? === lastnode [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lastnode_ [n=lastnode@unaffiliated/mahangu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] DarkMageZ: find some C or C++ program you like and start coding? [02:48] yeah, but without understanding the code in the slightest first... that doesn't work [02:49] so then you go and learn what you need [02:49] do you know any other programing languages? [02:53] LaserJock, i knew alittle vb6 [02:58] ew evil [02:58] lol [02:58] well i just ported fluxbuntu-meta to feisty [02:58] even though feisty is doing some weird things repository wise [02:58] vb6 is not exactly a programming language ;) [02:59] like not recognizing cdrecord and mkisofs [03:00] now i need to port the artwork package [03:00] and finish the settings package [03:04] DarkMageZ: well, then read through a quick C/C++ tutorial first :-) [03:04] joejaxx: excellent === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] is ther an edgy-updates universe multiverse repo or just the main restricted [03:06] joejaxx: thank you :) [03:07] gnomefreak: what did i do? lol [03:07] fluxbuntu-meta [03:07] ive been wanting that so bad [03:07] ah [03:07] you are most welcome [03:07] :) [03:07] gnomefreak: sure -updates, etc. are for all components [03:08] we have -proposed and -security too [03:08] that maybe the issue thank you i will get him to see if it fixs it [03:08] im thinking -proposed doesnt have ff updates in it [03:09] gnomefreak: what are you talking about? [03:09] ff 2 keep crashing and im hoping its just an update issue [03:09] do you have flash 9? [03:09] LaserJock: ive had a usr that has had issues with ff on edgy [03:09] I know linux mint had bad problems with FF crashing all the time [03:10] he doesnt have flash at all i gave him flash 9 to replace his flash 7 and helped but still ended up core dumping [03:10] hmm [03:10] spent over 5 hours on the user in the last couple of days [03:10] is there a bug report? [03:10] it started as an automatix issue but still there after reinstalling [03:10] not yet [03:11] i want to be sure its not hd related first [03:11] hmm [03:11] why is ubuntu-artwork listed under gnome [03:12] because it is gnome [03:12] kubuntu-artwork and xubuntu-artwork === somerville32 [n=ubuntu@fctnnbsc15w-156034086182.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] sudo apt-cache show kubuntu-artwork [03:13] W: Unable to locate package kubuntu-artwork [03:13] E: No packages found [03:13] hmm [03:13] they don't have an artwork packages [03:13] should be just kubuntu-default-settings [03:13] oh [03:13] hmm [03:14] I think they plan on splitting it out at some point, but I'm not postive about that [03:14] bah lol what am i supposed to label this under [03:14] fluxbuntu-artwork [03:14] whatever you want [03:14] you're the dev [03:14] even labels theirs under the wm/de [03:15] for the Section [03:15] oh sorry [03:15] x11 [03:15] that's where fluxbox is [03:15] is fluxbuntu going there? [03:16] fluxbuntu-meta's section is base [03:16] i do not know if that is wrong or not [03:16] hmmm [03:17] joejaxx: the definition of base on package.u.c is "Basic needed utilities of every Debian system" [03:18] ok yeap that is definitely wrong [03:18] and as much as you want to promot fluxbuntu, I doubt that you can claim it should be on *every* Debian system ;-) [03:18] *promote [03:19] well actually i was following this [03:19] Source: ubuntu-meta [03:19] Section: base [03:19] lol [03:19] hmm [03:19] maybe Ubuntu was a little optimistic [03:19] i wonder what i should change it too [03:20] xubuntu-meta is in misc [03:20] ok [03:20] that is the section i had fluxbuntu-artwork in [03:20] i will leave it [03:20] as misc [03:21] and change the other one to misc as well [03:21] -doc should be in text (if you ever make one) [03:21] ok [03:22] should the settings one be misc as well? [03:22] yeah [03:22] xubuntu-artwork is in x11 [03:22] who knows [03:30] just build fluxbuntu-artwork [03:30] i have to rebuild meta though [03:34] ok rebuilt that one [03:34] now to the divert nonsense haha [03:35] this should be interesting === Adri2000 [n=Adri2000@unaffiliated/adri2000] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:57] anyone have an example of a simple preinst file? [03:58] nevermind i can reference the one from fluxbox i forgot about that one === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-10-83-27.hr.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-158-215.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PriceChild [n=pricechi@unix0.york.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] how does the fluxbox package get away with not having a install file [05:17] depends on the packaging , if the makefile puts the files in all the correect places then there really isnt a need for it with say cdbs [05:17] moins all [05:18] hello [05:19] imbrandon: figured out diversions [05:19] but [05:19] i need to know the exact place where fluxbox installs stuff [05:19] what are you making diversions in fluxbox for ? [05:20] no in fluxbox [05:20] not* [05:20] in the fluxbuntu-default-settings package [05:20] ok umm , still a bit puzzled why you would need deversions [05:20] because i have configuration files for fluxbox wdm and rox [05:21] have you looked at say kubuntu-default-settings === joejaxx apt-get source's [05:22] wow 10mb? [05:22] there abouts yea [05:22] but we dont use deversions at all [05:23] if anything we use alternatives for a few thins ( like the uspash artwork ) [05:23] brb food time === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.145.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:30] fabo: ping === fowlduck [n=nate@68-190-90-101.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:41] hey all [05:42] hello === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] heya Hobbsee [05:46] hey imbrandon :) [05:47] imbrandon: fixed all of kde yet? [05:47] Hobbsee: hehe no just uploaded kdepim and working on beryl crack right now [05:47] imbrandon: i think kdepim had another bug. [05:47] gonna try to get that finished up here in the next few [05:47] imbrandon: https://launchpad.net/bugs/73288 [05:47] Malone bug 73288 in kubuntu-meta "News issue" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [05:48] NOW you mention it AFTER i upload it hehehe [05:48] just teasin [05:48] i'll look after this [05:48] i wanna finish this beryl crack so people stop asking me about it [05:48] :) [05:48] imbrandon: apologies for going to work :P [05:48] ( they are still gonna be mad when they see how i have it versioned ) [05:49] how'd you do it? [05:49] 0.0.0crack-0ubuntu1? [05:49] the correct way, but that happens to conflict with anyone that has the beryl repo in their sources.list [05:49] that's a feature [05:50] sooo i'll have to poke the beryl guys later and tell them , because anyone that whine's i'm sending them their way,i told them not to do it at UDS but nooooo :) [05:50] well, you dont want the beryl repo stuff trying to work with yours anyway [05:51] true, but its still gonna cause the ricers headaches [05:51] they'll deal. that's why they're ricers [05:51] :) [05:51] anyway i have everything but emerald fixed up, once i finish that ( building now to tet ) i'm gonna upload it [05:52] and de-virginize the repo's [05:52] oh the agony of the feisty repos will have when the archive admin goes threw the NEW queue [05:52] :) [05:52] repo pr0n? i have seen it all now [05:53] nice :) [05:53] hah === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.6.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dous [n=dous@124.104.0.197] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] Goodnight MOTU [06:41] night === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:49] heya ajmitch [06:50] hello [06:50] wanan test some crack in a few ? [06:51] of what? [06:51] beryl crack [06:51] I guess [06:51] might as well see if my desktop can handle the madness [06:51] hehe [06:52] i'm trying to fix a circle dep error right now then i /think/ they will be atleaste ready to upload [06:52] to the repo's , they will need some love over the next months but not /as/ crackfull as i thought === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:53] heya robitaille and Burgundavia [06:54] so how many people are working on beryl packages now? 4? [06:54] hey imbrandon and robitaille [06:54] hello Burgundavia [06:54] ajmitch: 3 and we all combined the effort [06:54] s [06:54] Hi Burgundavia imbrandon [06:54] you & who else? [06:54] me and giskard and fabio [06:54] it is bloody sad how many of you this is taking [06:55] Burgundavia: its REALLY crackfull [06:55] we have each caught coutless errors [06:55] imbrandon: fabio? [06:55] and i'm sure there will be more in the first month or so [06:55] s/i// [06:55] ajmitch: typo [06:55] Burgundavia: it is excellent software! ;) [06:56] so excellent we are going to install it by default [06:56] lovely [06:56] of course [06:56] now drink up, you'll need it [06:57] heh and have binary drivers :) /me ducks [06:57] Burgundavia: this is one area i 100% agree with you on , we dont always see eye to eye on stuff but i think this one is kinda universal [06:57] just sad more dont see that [06:58] some don't realize what is supportable and what is not [06:59] ok, the forums depress me === ajmitch is happy that people working on free nvidia drivers have got things drawing on the screen [06:59] ajmitch: you serious? rock [07:00] ajmitch: kick ass [07:00] yeah, I've just done my read of the forums & got thoroughly demotivated :) [07:00] imbrandon: early days yet, though [07:00] ajmitch: yea but thats still good [07:00] i presume by drawing things you mean drawing things using the cards 3D features? [07:00] the people in the Feisty forum are posting all kinds of crackish ideas, which is ok === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.6.210] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] but then they all self reinforce each others bad ideas [07:00] which is not === plugwash was under the impression that there was already a free 2D driver for nvidia cards [07:01] my main main thing is that nv and ati say they cant opensource the drivers even if they wanted to, BUT why dont they atleaste provide spec's [07:01] plugwash: their is [07:01] nv [07:01] plugwash: it is written by nvidia and is quite unreadable [07:01] plugwash: yes, the 2d driver is fairly crap & obfuscated [07:01] I'm talking about things drawing with glxgears [07:02] ajmitch: are you talking 3d stuff? [07:02] 11:22 < darktama> hmm, glxgears *is* being rendered.. just very very very small :) you can just see tiny moving red, green and blue bits if you rotate the gears a bit [07:02] yes, I am [07:02] heheh nice === ajmitch has learnt a lot more about nvidia cards by being involved on the edge of the project [07:04] now is Mark wanted to use some of his money to solve this issue, that would rock [07:04] Burgundavia: yea [07:04] imagine if Canonical had one wireless and one graphics card driver on staff [07:04] not a huge burden, but it would go a long way [07:05] I don't know how much it would help [07:06] if you cycled people out on contact, it probably would [07:06] ok ajmitch last package just finished building and i'm copying to a temp webserver for you to grab, i installed and ran them ok, if you say they atleaste install i'll upload them , there is still a few things i would like to clean up but i'll do that on secondary uploads and such, atleaste the crack is mostly cleaned out now [07:07] Burgundavia: ? [07:07] wow === lupine_85 [n=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:07] ajmitch: if you hired an nvidia hacker for a bit, until they reached a certain level, etc === astopy [n=nadam@taurus.moosoft.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmargol [n=elmargol@host4-61.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] Burgundavia: the problem is attracting the rare people who have the time, abilty & know-how === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:08] ajmitch: understandable === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | Feisty open for uploads === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by Hobbsee at Sun Nov 26 08:57:48 2006 === #ubuntu-motu [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp [10:43] (fabo/#ubuntu-motu) where's aquamarine :D not finished yet !!! [10:43] (Amaranth/#ubuntu-motu) fabo: It hasn't actually been released [10:43] (fabo/#ubuntu-motu) i know it's just a joke ;) [10:45] and yes you can backport them as is === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astopy [n=nnnadam@taurus.moosoft.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:47] hi Yagisan [10:48] G'day ajmitch [10:49] need to re-install my edgy boxes soon [10:49] but edgy is stable & wonderful === Lutin_ [n=ubuntu@sd-4736.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:54] ajmitch, wonderful - yeah - but need to - er - repartition my raid array [10:58] & why does that require a reinstall? === pirast [n=martin@p508B31A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] i have a question, i patched a package in universe some time ago, what is the best practice in order to enable it to appear in a new version? [11:04] asking for a sync again and patching it after upstream version freeze again? [11:04] or you merge it now [11:05] rather than leaving it unpatched [11:05] is it on merges.ubuntu.com ? [11:05] mom might have done the work for you already ;) [11:05] that sounds nice :-) [11:06] i will have a look === b_lindeijer [n=bjorn@lindeijer.xs4all.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:08] nope :-( does not seem so [11:08] what is it ? [11:09] dvdrip [11:09] ah, that was not originally from debian, was it? [11:09] who do i poke to make a schedutils sync with debian? (automatic that is). [11:09] nope, debian-multimedia :-( [11:09] fdoving: If it has no Ubuntu changes, it'll be synced within a couple of days. [11:10] fdoving: since it's modified in ubuntu, someone needs to merge any changes [11:10] or I see that you made the last changes.. [11:10] We seem to have a new upstream version in Ubuntu... [11:10] so file a sync request on malone, details are on the DeveloperResources wiki page [11:11] ajmitch: can the ubuntu changes silently die? - the debian package is way better. [11:11] then subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors [11:11] if they're really not needed, and the orig.tar.gz is the same, then yes [11:11] make sure you mention that in the bug you file [11:12] I already have a bugreport, i'll subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors. [11:12] other example is pgadmin3, which is in ubuntu [11:12] and was synced from debian [11:13] btw, do we already know if thunderbird will be renamed in ubuntu? because if not, it will shoot some plugin packages in universe.. [11:14] pirast: It is unlikely that it will be renamed here as well... [11:14] This will increase delta with Debian, but we'll have to live with that. [11:15] :-( that's bad.. I fixed enigmail-locales in Edgy.. and it was hard work (renaming and replacing with sed) [11:17] hrm i wonder if there are gonna be any archive admins on today ( to process the NEW queue ) [11:18] unlikely [11:18] given that they're all in UK/Europe, and it's sunday [11:18] yea === imbrandon sulks [11:18] i wanted to try it on my lappy but really dident want to compile it again [11:19] but i guess i will [11:19] beryl? [11:19] yea [11:19] but you had i386 packages? [11:19] lappy is ppc [11:19] ah yes [11:19] one of those [11:19] :) [11:20] do I care enough to install beryl stuff on the laptop again? [11:20] dosent seem TOO bad on my desktop [11:20] runs mostly fine on the desktop, except for a few nasty bugs [11:20] yea i have a few "what window should be on top" annoyances [11:20] that seems to be the main things [11:21] and alt tab seems iffy at best === mr_pouit [n=silk@81.56.214.84] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:21] I've gone back to metacity already [11:21] but over all its not near as bad as i thought [11:21] .. and beryl doesn't work well with two monitors :] [11:21] fdoving: which is what I have [11:21] me too. [11:21] i wont till next month :( [11:21] i have another question: when an archive admin syncs a package from a debian-like repository, will it be autosynced then? === imbrandon is buying a new system next month , yay [11:22] might work for you, but for me and the open ati drivers, it didn't work well. [11:22] iirc all problems with that are now in the plugins and most of them have been fixed [11:22] pirast: I don't think so [11:22] but only in SVN, of course [11:22] ajmitch, thanks [11:22] as of about 3 days ago, i think [11:22] (multihead) [11:22] imbrandon: since your little amd64 just isn't good enough... [11:22]