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| Burgundavia | !seen pygi | 08:31 |
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| ubotu | pygi is on IRC right now! | 08:31 |
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| ogra | Burgundavia, whats up with him ? his last blog entry was worrying | 08:35 |
| Burgundavia | I have no idea | 08:37 |
| Burgundavia | I have pinged him, but nothing back yet | 08:37 |
| ogra | hmm | 08:37 |
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| Ezex | how do i probe for my monitor type so i can set a different driver for X to use? | 09:31 |
| Burgundavia | driver is based on video card, not monitor | 09:37 |
| Ezex | o, ok | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | what is your issue? | 09:40 |
| Burgundavia | is your monitor the wrong resolution? | 09:40 |
| Ezex | not the wrong res its just everytime something scrolls on the screen (like a web page) the screen shudders as it scrolls | 09:41 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | what is your cpu doing when scrolling? | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | is there flash on the shuddering pages? does it happen on all pages | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 09:42 |
| ogra | sounds like your graphics card isnt supported or not detected correctly, ltsp falls back to vesa if that happens | 09:43 |
| ogra | and vesa renders very slow ... | 09:43 |
| ogra | but it could as well be flash related if it only hapens on pages with flash | 09:43 |
| Ezex | it used to happen on windows before i loaded the drivers | 09:43 |
| Ezex | just the default homepage in firefox does the same | 09:43 |
| ogra | do yu know what kind of graphics card your client has ? | 09:44 |
| Ezex | no | 09:44 |
| ogra | try setting a root password by runing: | 09:45 |
| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd | 09:45 |
| ogra | on the server | 09:45 |
| ogra | then on the client switch to console and log in as root with the password you have set | 09:45 |
| ogra | and run: lspci |grep -i vga | 09:46 |
| ogra | it should return the name and model of your card | 09:46 |
| Ezex | VIA Tech | 09:46 |
| ogra | can you get a more precise output ? | 09:47 |
| Ezex | VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 02) | 09:47 |
| ogra | (the model would be intresting) | 09:47 |
| ogra | meh | 09:47 |
| ogra | unichrome is to new, there is no proper driver yet | 09:47 |
| Ezex | should i fall back to 6.06? that worked fine on it | 09:48 |
| ogra | hmm, then the via drver supported it before, thats odd | 09:49 |
| Ezex | yea | 09:49 |
| ogra | you can try forcing it with the XSERVER=via parameter in lts.conf | 09:49 |
| Ezex | ive notice happens a lot with distros | 09:49 |
| ogra | but afaik the unichrome support has some issues in it ... | 09:50 |
| Ezex | i'll put 6.06 back on it and check out the driver it uses | 09:50 |
| ogra | thats likely the reason our X maintainer disabled it | 09:50 |
| Ezex | thanks for your help :) | 09:51 |
| ogra | 6.06 will saldy miss all the cool features :/ | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | ogra: via doesn't play nice with the open source community | 09:51 |
| ogra | the unichrome driver is getting there ... | 09:51 |
| ogra | but its not 100% done yet | 09:52 |
| Ezex | the manufacturers wont support anyone? | 09:52 |
| ogra | i have some clients around that dont work with it ... | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | Ezex: via runs hot and cold with their Linux support | 09:52 |
| ogra | Ezex, many of them dont care about linux ... | 09:52 |
| ogra | it changed over the last years but it still far from perfect | 09:53 |
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| harrypopof | hi all | 10:07 |
| willvdl | Hey there | 10:08 |
| Burgundavia | hey willvdl | 10:10 |
| willvdl | Ola | 10:10 |
| willvdl | Burgundavia, nice letter came through on My Story | 10:11 |
| Burgundavia | oh? | 10:11 |
| willvdl | just extracting small detail from it | 10:11 |
| willvdl | http://www.mynoteit.com | 10:11 |
| willvdl | ^^^ the guy is working on this | 10:11 |
| willvdl | Look & feel is very neat which is usually a good sign for me. | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | yep, looks cool | 10:12 |
| Burgundavia | free? | 10:13 |
| willvdl | ooh, didn't check | 10:13 |
| Burgundavia | looks free but not Free | 10:13 |
| willvdl | yip. Would be nice to see cross development with something like schooltool | 10:14 |
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| cbx33 | Boo-ya all | 08:13 |
| stgraber | hi | 08:14 |
| juliux | hi cbx33 | 08:16 |
| cbx33 | hey juliux | 08:16 |
| cbx33 | hi stgraber | 08:16 |
| juliux | how are you? | 08:16 |
| cbx33 | not great, but getting better | 08:16 |
| juliux | good to hear;) | 08:17 |
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| mrlinux | need help setting up dhcp on 6.10 | 09:04 |
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| mrlinux | hey | 09:21 |
| mrlinux | spacey | 09:21 |
| mrlinux | spacey, i need help | 09:22 |
| tackat | Hi, I'm working on this new application that is meant to enter KDE-EDU soon: | 09:37 |
| tackat | http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble10.jpg | 09:37 |
| tackat | http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble9.jpg | 09:37 |
| tackat | http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble8.jpg | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | cool | 09:39 |
| tackat | any adventourous people willing to test it? You need Qt 4.2 and svn installed | 09:39 |
| tackat | http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble1.jpg | 09:40 |
| tackat | You don't need OpenGL though | 09:40 |
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| tackat | It just needs a 2D graphics card although displaying a 3D globe | 09:43 |
| tackat | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2412 | 09:46 |
| tackat | if you're more interested | 09:46 |
| ogra | tackat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule do you think you could stabilize it until upstream version freeze ? | 09:52 |
| tackat | That is when? | 09:53 |
| tackat | :) | 09:53 |
| tackat | ah | 09:54 |
| tackat | February 8th | 09:54 |
| tackat | right? Yes actually my current plan foresees to have a stable version by Januar 30th as I have another deadline to meet to get shipped with another exciting piece of software. | 09:55 |
| ogra | and finding an proper automated solution for the map initialization would also be nice | 09:55 |
| tackat | ogra: you tried it? | 09:55 |
| ogra | nope, i read the webpage | 09:55 |
| ogra | but i'll try it in a spare minute the next days | 09:56 |
| tackat | ogra: that's not a problem I actually intend to have the preinitialized version packaged | 09:56 |
| ogra | coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool | 09:56 |
| ogra | oops | 09:56 |
| ogra | my o got stuck :) | 09:56 |
| crimsun | it's ok, you're super ogra, your o can stick | 09:56 |
| cbx33 | hey ogra | 09:57 |
| tackat | the non-initialized version is rather meant for people who are very low on ressources and want to squeeze it on the CD no matter what ;) | 09:57 |
| ogra | crimsun, haha, no, actually its xgl and beryl that are evil to my keyboard ... | 09:59 |
| ogra | cbx33, yo | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | ogra, I never thought you'd be a bling bling user ;) | 09:59 |
| cbx33 | ogra, you have any time free to discuss SCP quickly? | 09:59 |
| ogra | cbx33, not now, i'm pretty busy (returned 5h ago and need to prepare the first milestone CD to be ready until thu. | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | ah right | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | well | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | it's not really technical questions | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | just a, when do we start discussing it and who is working on it? | 10:00 |
| ogra | bling was the maintheme at MTV | 10:00 |
| cbx33 | heh | 10:01 |
| ogra | we should work together on it ... since i was involved in the discussions and know the parts that might not be written down | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | totally.... | 10:01 |
| ogra | but feel free to start if you want ... | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | I was just keen know who's doing what | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 10:01 |
| cbx33 | I'mvery excited | 10:02 |
| ogra | _(even though you will be able to listen to the recordings soon afaik) | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | looking forward to wednesdays meeting too | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | oh good | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | I do hope so | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | I was so utterly ticked off when I missed it | 10:02 |
| cbx33 | if I had marked myself as an essential participant woud I have gotte na reminder? | 10:03 |
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| ogra | i dont think so ... but you should suggest that as an LP feature ;) | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | well, I've already talked to jono about the scheduling | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | ;) | 10:04 |
| ogra | you should have seen the wiki updates though | 10:04 |
| ogra | the scheduler was horribly buggy ... we had to manually shuffle around a lot to get everything done | 10:04 |
| cbx33 | I suggested perhaps the first 3 days being pre scheduled.....like weeks in advance | 10:05 |
| ogra | thats why the schedule could change during the day ... | 10:05 |
| ogra | next time will be better | 10:05 |
| ogra | that doesnt work the way the process is | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | and then leave the last few days for sechduling as and when needed | 10:05 |
| ogra | it would make it very ineffective | 10:05 |
| cbx33 | really? | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | even if you know that somethings are going to have to be discussed? | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | I mean, I know I'm not able to make a good comment seeing as I wasn't there | 10:06 |
| cbx33 | just trying to assist non UDS go-er participation | 10:06 |
| ogra | if you have short quick specs you can get done in one session, so you need to be able to reschedule | 10:08 |
| ogra | the schedule depends totally on the spec status ... | 10:08 |
| ogra | and the specs get scheduled from high to low prio ... and take the roms into account as well... | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | i see | 10:09 |
| ogra | *rooms | 10:09 |
| ogra | i.e. for a drafting session you need no discussion room | 10:09 |
| cbx33 | yeh i see | 10:11 |
| ogra | and for certain specs certain people are marked as required to be in the room .... | 10:11 |
| ogra | the scheduler takes all that into account (usually) and creates the most effective schedule for the next day in the evening ... (at least thats how its supposed to be) | 10:12 |
| cbx33 | hmm.... | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | can't we freeze specs a week in advance | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | generate a schedule for the first 2 days? | 10:13 |
| ogra | whats the cnference for then ? | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | wso the most important discussions are scheduled | 10:13 |
| cbx33 | and everyone knows where they are | 10:13 |
| ogra | still, what for do you need a speccing conference if you dont work out the specs there ? | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | no i didnt mean that | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | by freezing specs I meant freeze their status | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | *bah* for get what I said about freezing | 10:14 |
| ogra | if its possible to write a spec without personal discussion it shouldnt even be proposed for the summit | 10:14 |
| cbx33 | no i didn't mean that | 10:15 |
| cbx33 | possibly just make the first discussion for a particular spec scheduled a week in advance | 10:16 |
| ogra | schedluing the first day a week in advance would be possible i think ... | 10:17 |
| cbx33 | that would be very very useful | 10:17 |
| Burgwork | it would probably also be good to indicate which have not been scheduled due to lack of interest | 10:19 |
| ogra | you should be able to guess from the schedule ;) | 10:19 |
| cbx33 | indeed | 10:19 |
| cbx33 | hehe | 10:19 |
| Burgwork | yes, but rather than have to search and see it via implicit omission, see a list, explicitily | 10:26 |
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