=== Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #edubuntu === anddreaz [i=irc@ip68-3-181-120.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu === anddreaz [i=irc@ip68-3-181-120.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #edubuntu [] === freet15 [n=freet15@61.51.188.166] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.51.188.166] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.59.176] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@201.230.59.176] has joined #edubuntu === kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ [n=dave@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === freet15 [n=freet15@61.51.188.166] has joined #edubuntu === bimberi_ is now known as bimberi === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === jbrefort [n=jean@mar44-2-82-227-215-241.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu [08:31] !seen pygi [08:31] pygi is on IRC right now! === stgraber [i=stgraber@server.lan.stgraber.org] has joined #edubuntu [08:35] Burgundavia, whats up with him ? his last blog entry was worrying [08:37] I have no idea [08:37] I have pinged him, but nothing back yet [08:37] hmm === jono [n=jono@88-107-64-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === Ezex [n=ezekiel@cpc4-stkn4-0-0-cust250.midd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:31] how do i probe for my monitor type so i can set a different driver for X to use? [09:37] driver is based on video card, not monitor [09:39] o, ok [09:40] what is your issue? [09:40] is your monitor the wrong resolution? [09:41] not the wrong res its just everytime something scrolls on the screen (like a web page) the screen shudders as it scrolls [09:42] hmm [09:42] what is your cpu doing when scrolling? [09:42] is there flash on the shuddering pages? does it happen on all pages [09:42] ? [09:43] sounds like your graphics card isnt supported or not detected correctly, ltsp falls back to vesa if that happens [09:43] and vesa renders very slow ... [09:43] but it could as well be flash related if it only hapens on pages with flash [09:43] it used to happen on windows before i loaded the drivers [09:43] just the default homepage in firefox does the same [09:44] do yu know what kind of graphics card your client has ? [09:44] no [09:45] try setting a root password by runing: [09:45] sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 passwd [09:45] on the server [09:45] then on the client switch to console and log in as root with the password you have set [09:46] and run: lspci |grep -i vga [09:46] it should return the name and model of your card [09:46] VIA Tech [09:47] can you get a more precise output ? [09:47] VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adapter (rev 02) [09:47] (the model would be intresting) [09:47] meh [09:47] unichrome is to new, there is no proper driver yet [09:48] should i fall back to 6.06? that worked fine on it [09:49] hmm, then the via drver supported it before, thats odd [09:49] yea [09:49] you can try forcing it with the XSERVER=via parameter in lts.conf [09:49] ive notice happens a lot with distros [09:50] but afaik the unichrome support has some issues in it ... [09:50] i'll put 6.06 back on it and check out the driver it uses [09:50] thats likely the reason our X maintainer disabled it [09:51] thanks for your help :) [09:51] 6.06 will saldy miss all the cool features :/ [09:51] ogra: via doesn't play nice with the open source community [09:51] the unichrome driver is getting there ... [09:52] but its not 100% done yet [09:52] the manufacturers wont support anyone? [09:52] i have some clients around that dont work with it ... [09:52] Ezex: via runs hot and cold with their Linux support [09:52] Ezex, many of them dont care about linux ... [09:53] it changed over the last years but it still far from perfect === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-254.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === harrypopof [n=harrypop@APlessis-Bouchard-151-1-93-90.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #edubuntu [10:07] hi all [10:08] Hey there [10:10] hey willvdl [10:10] Ola [10:11] Burgundavia, nice letter came through on My Story [10:11] oh? [10:11] just extracting small detail from it [10:11] http://www.mynoteit.com [10:11] ^^^ the guy is working on this [10:12] Look & feel is very neat which is usually a good sign for me. [10:12] yep, looks cool [10:13] free? [10:13] ooh, didn't check [10:13] looks free but not Free [10:14] yip. 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[08:16] not great, but getting better [08:17] good to hear;) === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === mrlinux [n=mrlinux@v017.vpwan.net] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@83.153.124.232] has joined #edubuntu [09:04] need help setting up dhcp on 6.10 === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [09:21] hey [09:21] spacey [09:22] spacey, i need help [09:37] Hi, I'm working on this new application that is meant to enter KDE-EDU soon: [09:37] http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble10.jpg [09:37] http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble9.jpg [09:38] http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble8.jpg [09:39] cool [09:39] any adventourous people willing to test it? You need Qt 4.2 and svn installed [09:40] http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble1.jpg [09:40] You don't need OpenGL though === mrlinux [n=mrlinux@v017.vpwan.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:43] It just needs a 2D graphics card although displaying a 3D globe [09:46] http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2412 [09:46] if you're more interested [09:52] tackat, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule do you think you could stabilize it until upstream version freeze ? [09:53] That is when? [09:53] :) [09:54] ah [09:54] February 8th [09:55] right? Yes actually my current plan foresees to have a stable version by Januar 30th as I have another deadline to meet to get shipped with another exciting piece of software. [09:55] and finding an proper automated solution for the map initialization would also be nice [09:55] ogra: you tried it? [09:55] nope, i read the webpage [09:56] but i'll try it in a spare minute the next days [09:56] ogra: that's not a problem I actually intend to have the preinitialized version packaged [09:56] coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool [09:56] oops [09:56] my o got stuck :) [09:56] it's ok, you're super ogra, your o can stick [09:57] hey ogra [09:57] the non-initialized version is rather meant for people who are very low on ressources and want to squeeze it on the CD no matter what ;) [09:59] crimsun, haha, no, actually its xgl and beryl that are evil to my keyboard ... [09:59] cbx33, yo [09:59] ogra, I never thought you'd be a bling bling user ;) [09:59] ogra, you have any time free to discuss SCP quickly? [10:00] cbx33, not now, i'm pretty busy (returned 5h ago and need to prepare the first milestone CD to be ready until thu. [10:00] ah right [10:00] well [10:00] it's not really technical questions [10:00] just a, when do we start discussing it and who is working on it? [10:00] bling was the maintheme at MTV [10:01] heh [10:01] we should work together on it ... since i was involved in the discussions and know the parts that might not be written down [10:01] totally.... [10:01] but feel free to start if you want ... [10:01] I was just keen know who's doing what [10:01] ;) [10:02] I'mvery excited [10:02] _(even though you will be able to listen to the recordings soon afaik) [10:02] looking forward to wednesdays meeting too [10:02] oh good [10:02] I do hope so [10:02] I was so utterly ticked off when I missed it [10:03] if I had marked myself as an essential participant woud I have gotte na reminder? === jitj [n=computer@server.zeeland.k12.mi.us] has left #edubuntu [] [10:04] i dont think so ... but you should suggest that as an LP feature ;) [10:04] well, I've already talked to jono about the scheduling [10:04] ;) [10:04] you should have seen the wiki updates though [10:04] the scheduler was horribly buggy ... we had to manually shuffle around a lot to get everything done [10:05] I suggested perhaps the first 3 days being pre scheduled.....like weeks in advance [10:05] thats why the schedule could change during the day ... [10:05] next time will be better [10:05] that doesnt work the way the process is [10:05] and then leave the last few days for sechduling as and when needed [10:05] it would make it very ineffective [10:06] really? [10:06] even if you know that somethings are going to have to be discussed? [10:06] I mean, I know I'm not able to make a good comment seeing as I wasn't there [10:06] just trying to assist non UDS go-er participation [10:08] if you have short quick specs you can get done in one session, so you need to be able to reschedule [10:08] the schedule depends totally on the spec status ... [10:09] and the specs get scheduled from high to low prio ... and take the roms into account as well... [10:09] i see [10:09] *rooms [10:09] i.e. for a drafting session you need no discussion room [10:11] yeh i see [10:11] and for certain specs certain people are marked as required to be in the room .... [10:12] the scheduler takes all that into account (usually) and creates the most effective schedule for the next day in the evening ... (at least thats how its supposed to be) [10:13] hmm.... [10:13] can't we freeze specs a week in advance [10:13] generate a schedule for the first 2 days? [10:13] whats the cnference for then ? [10:13] wso the most important discussions are scheduled [10:13] and everyone knows where they are [10:14] still, what for do you need a speccing conference if you dont work out the specs there ? [10:14] no i didnt mean that [10:14] by freezing specs I meant freeze their status [10:14] *bah* for get what I said about freezing [10:14] if its possible to write a spec without personal discussion it shouldnt even be proposed for the summit [10:15] no i didn't mean that [10:16] possibly just make the first discussion for a particular spec scheduled a week in advance [10:17] schedluing the first day a week in advance would be possible i think ... [10:17] that would be very very useful [10:19] it would probably also be good to indicate which have not been scheduled due to lack of interest [10:19] you should be able to guess from the schedule ;) [10:19] indeed [10:19] hehe [10:26] yes, but rather than have to search and see it via implicit omission, see a list, explicitily === tideline [n=tideline@208.62.120.116] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #edubuntu [11:05] I think we just need a better wrap-up of what went on === maccabeus [n=chatzill@209.170.255.14] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #edubuntu === maccabeus [n=chatzill@209.170.255.14] has left #edubuntu [] === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@87-194-86-227.bethere.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === lucasvo_ is now known as lucasvo