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Hobbsee_ouch, i found a rather critical bug03:43
ajmitchoh?03:46
Hobbsee_running a opengl screensaver, out of the standard kubuntu ones, will hardlock your machine after being left for a while03:53
ajmitchsounds more like a driver bug03:54
HawkwindOr a hardware issue03:55
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Hobbsee_worked on edgy.   i think.03:57
Hobbseemaybe i never checked that03:57
Hobbseethat's kinda why i havent filed a bug yet03:57
Hobbseeoh eys, it *sometimes* locks up03:57
ajmitchHawkwind: knowing how Hobbsee treats her hardware, it wouldn't surprise me03:58
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Hobbseeajmitch: it seems to still live03:58
ajmitchamazing03:59
ajmitchsounds sick?03:59
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=== Hobbsee pokes Jucato
Jucatoouch04:51
Jucato:)04:51
JucatoHobbsee: poked04:52
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=== Hawkwind Smacks Hobbsee with her own pointy stick
=== Hawkwind Runs
=== Hobbsee attacks Hawkwind with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HawkwindYou can't, I ran away 05:06
Jucatolol05:07
HawkwindThough I'm sure that stick has magical powers too, so I'm pretty much in a world of trouble regardless05:07
Hobbseeexactly.05:12
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=== Hobbsee has discovered at least one feature in suse that she'd like to see in kubuntu
HawkwindHobbsee: What feature ?05:50
HobbseeHawkwind: the "type / to search" in the kmenu05:52
Hobbseeand then it just greys out all hte menus that dont have it05:52
HawkwindAh, very nice05:54
HawkwindThat new kmenu(forget the name) that some SuSe has is superbly nice05:55
=== Hobbsee is of the opinion that that loosk very windows-ey and sucks.
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HobbseeHawkwind: i'm sort of trying to upgrade to 10.2 as well, but havent figured out how yet05:56
Hobbseeto the rc, that is05:56
HawkwindAh.  I've never once touched SuSe so I can't help ya there05:56
HawkwindProbably somewhere in YaSt though05:57
Hobbseeheh05:57
Hobbseethat appears to be huge though05:57
HawkwindI really should try it out someday just to see05:57
HawkwindIf I do though, I want the KDE with that new kmenu.  Might actually make me somewhat like KDE a bit :)05:58
Hobbseei found a vmware image for 10.1 with kde 3.5.405:58
Hobbseeto be honest, i havent seen that much greatness yet05:58
HawkwindYep.  I have that on my harddrive.  Just never installed it05:58
Jucatohm... greatness... :)06:04
Hobbseesuse *doesnt* like 256mb of ram06:39
Jucatohehe06:39
Jucatoon VMWare?06:39
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Hobbseeyes06:41
Hobbseeand i cnat figure out hwo to change it06:41
Jucatovmware player?06:42
JucatoHobbsee: if you can find a .vmx file for the vm image, try to edit it. there's a line there with something like: memsize = "512"06:43
Hobbseeyes06:44
Hobbseeahhh06:44
Hobbseegotcha06:44
Hobbseethanks Jucato06:45
Jucatonp :)06:45
HawkwindYou can change the settings in the menus too 06:47
HawkwindNo need to edit the file06:47
JucatoHawkwind: on vmware-player?06:48
Jucatoiirc, vmware-player doesn't have a menu for that06:48
HawkwindAh, maybe not in player06:49
Hobbseesuse doesnt seem to want to update - keeps freezing06:49
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Hobbseesebas: you around?12:38
kwwiiHobbsee: sebas is at a meeting and they are probably on a lunch break12:39
Hobbseekwwii: ah right.  pity12:39
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\shmoins12:41
Hobbseehey \sh12:42
kwwiihi \sh12:46
Hobbseekwwii: feel like fixing guidance-power-manager?  :P12:49
=== Hobbsee just wants it to work again so she stops running otu of battery power by accident
=== \sh is fighting with ldap
\shsudo-ldap integration is quite nice...when it works ;)12:50
kwwiiHobbsee: I fixed the icons already :p12:50
Hobbseehaha.  when it works12:50
Hobbseekwwii: yes, but now it does not run.  you could fix that too?  :)12:50
kwwiilet me check my schedule ;-)12:50
\shhobbsee: actually it works...right now, I'm introducing a new group for doing some build server stuff12:51
kwwiiohhh, sorry...no time12:51
Hobbsee\sh: yay!12:51
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Hobbseethat *wasnt* the correct answer :P12:52
\shHobbsee: plan is, to introduce a ready to use ldap server solution for Ubuntu/Kubuntu for enterprise deployment12:52
Hobbsee\sh: nice :)12:52
imbrandon\sh: working with the #ubuntu-directory guys ?>12:53
imbrandonheya kwwii12:53
imbrandonok got to run yall, cya in a few hours12:53
\shimbrandon: that's an option I have to think about ;) but yes ;)12:53
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kwwiihi imbrandon01:03
kwwiiHobbsee: that better be one long stick to reach me here in germany :p01:03
Hobbseekwwii: it reaches montreal too, so it'll reach you, yes.01:04
=== Hobbsee wishes she knew python
Jucatowho's python? :P01:04
kwwii:-)01:04
Jucatohi kwwii!01:04
kwwiihowdy Jucato01:04
=== Jucato is a bit (maybe more than a bit) excited about UbuntuOpenWeek...
Jucato3 more hours01:05
Hobbsee:)01:05
Hobbseeyeah, sucky timezones..01:05
JucatoI'm changing my timezone temporarily for a week :)01:06
Hobbsee:P01:06
=== Hobbsee isnt
Jucatohehe01:06
Jucatolooks like sabdfl made another blog post01:08
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Jucatotoo bad I can't be around for the Fresher's day :(01:11
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pipHello01:12
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pipi set a folder to be a shared folder ,and running samba server and I can see others's sharing folders in my LAN with Konqueror as well as my sharing folder but I CAN"T open my sharing folder why ?01:13
gnomefreakon planet?01:13
pipI just want others in my LAN can use my data as if they use their local data01:13
pipwhen I open my sharing folder through Konqueror ,it says "the folder does not exist "01:14
pipso weird01:14
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Hobbseegnomefreak: yes, on planet01:15
Hobbseegnomefreak: two, in fact01:15
gnomefreakreading it01:15
pipanything settings wrong ?01:16
gnomefreakhas to figure out how to get my hackergotchi like everyone elses :( and a need a better pic01:16
pipother windows PC can't see my sharing folder,but I can see theirs'01:16
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=== Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs
=== Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun Nov 26 08:57:12 2006
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pipHobbsee: Hi01:46
Hobbseeheya pip01:46
pipHobbsee: do you use samba ?01:46
Hobbseeoccasionally.01:47
pipHobbsee: my konqueror is strange ,I can see other's (windows PC) sharing folders in Konqueror but I can not open my sharing folders01:47
pipwhy I think the settings of share folder is right01:47
Hobbseeno idea.  i think i've seen that though01:49
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sebasHobbsee: pong02:27
Hobbseesebas: heya.  did you know that guidance-power-manager is broken under feisty?  i was hoping that someone would fix ti, and it seems like you wrote the original code02:29
sebasWhat does "broken" mean?02:29
sebasSomething with missing icons? (That I know)02:29
Hobbseesarah@sarah:~$ Traceback (most recent call last):02:31
Hobbsee  File "/usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py", line 39, in ?02:31
Hobbsee    from qt import QLabel02:31
HobbseeImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt)02:31
Hobbseesebas: ^02:31
sebasInteresting.02:31
Hobbseesebas: new python-qt4 did that02:31
sebasWhat does kcmshell userconfig (for example) say?02:32
sebasIs it broken in the same way?02:32
sebasIt doesn't look like something specific to powermanager though02:32
HobbseePythonize constructor -- pid = 765302:32
HobbseeTraceback (most recent call last):02:32
Hobbsee  File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.4/userconfig.py", line 19, in ?02:32
Hobbsee    from qt import *02:32
HobbseeImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt)02:32
Hobbseeerror: ***failed to import module02:32
Hobbseeand that gives an error anyway, as if it's nto found02:32
Hobbseeso yes02:32
sebasCan you start a python shell (simply with "python") and then do "import qt"?02:33
Hobbsee>>> import qt02:33
HobbseeTraceback (most recent call last):02:33
Hobbsee  File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?02:33
HobbseeImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initqt)02:33
Hobbseesame thing02:33
=== Hobbsee just hasnt appeared to notice it for any other apps
sebasRight, I've not really an idea (nor the time right now) to have a look at that02:34
sebasI'm in the middle of a 4 day meeting02:35
Hobbseeoh right, sorry :(02:36
Hobbseethought it was specific to g-p-m02:36
Hobbseesebas: enjoy your meeting :)02:36
sebasNo problem. I wouldn't pong if I really couldn't afford the time (and I'd like to see it fixed as well)02:36
sebasHehe, right ... thanks!02:36
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Hobbseefabo: ping?03:14
Hobbseefabo: were you going to push transkode to debian?03:17
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=== Hobbsee pushes icecc-monitor through as well, and archives that off revu
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=== DaSkreech reads that as chin-put
alleeheh, kubuntu/mEDUXa for 325000 users: http://dot.kde.org/1164320348/03:52
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bddebianHeya03:54
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Hobbseehey bddebian.  today is revu day.03:55
bddebianAck..  Hi Hobbsee :-)03:55
Hobbseehehe :)03:55
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freeflying_Hobbsee: imbrandon do you know if there some works on kaffeine?04:16
Hobbseefreeflying_: tonio did for a while04:16
freeflying_Hobbsee: thanks :), I just found kaffeine-0.8.3 out04:18
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Hobbseefreeflying_: nice!  packaged it yet?  :P04:19
freeflying_Hobbsee: haven't yet, if tonio_ has no time now, I can do it  :)04:19
Hobbseego for it04:19
Hobbseei think04:19
freeflying_:)04:20
faboHobbsee: i must fix an issue with transkode04:25
Hobbseefabo: okay.  want me to archive the copy on REVU, you upload it to debian, then sync it across to ubuntu?04:25
Hobbseefabo: i dealt with the mess that was icecc-monitor, btw04:26
Hobbseefabo: we now sync that straight from debian04:26
faboHobbsee: and i've already done kaffeine04:26
faboHobbsee: k, you can archive the copy on REVU04:26
Hobbseeoh cool.04:26
Hobbseepity freeflying left..04:26
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faboi've got strigi too pending ... 0.3.10 must be released today04:27
Hobbsee:)04:27
Hobbseegoing to fix that linda error at the same time, i presume?04:27
faboyes :)04:27
Hobbseemay as well have it fixed in both distributions :)04:27
fabokwlan 0.5.7 pending also :)04:28
Hobbsee:)04:29
kwwiimhb: ping?04:35
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mhbkwwii: hi05:09
mhbhi everyone else, too05:13
Jucatohi mhb :)05:13
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DaSkreechhi mhb05:17
Hobbseehey mdz05:17
Hobbseehey mhb05:17
mdzmorning05:18
Hobbseemhb: how well do dist-upgrades work between edgy and feisty?  or dont i want to know?05:18
JucatoHobbsee: maybe they could set up a sort of testing day to test dist-upgrades, just for a reference point. Because we get updates in feisty almost daily, it would be hard to say that it works, but tomorrow it doesn't05:19
HobbseeJucato: true.  however, Riddell isnt around this week05:19
Jucatoyeah. so probably next week05:20
Jucatodist-upgrade wasn't problematic a few days ago when I upgraded in vmware, btw05:20
DaSkreechHobbsee: just checking can't you just mute users giving problems in #ubuntu-classroom05:20
HobbseeDaSkreech: yep, already done that to one05:21
=== Jucato has a hard time monitoring both channels...
mhbHobbsee: I haven't tested it yet, going to start in December (i.e. after Herd CD 1)05:23
Hobbseeah right05:24
HobbseeJucato: i'm trying to paste questions - it's not easy!05:24
JucatoI know...05:24
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Jucatogetting chaotic again in there...05:40
HobbseeJucato: yep.  not many decent questions now either05:40
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JucatoI'm having a hard time distinguishing which answers are "authoritative"...05:41
Hobbseeanyone with a cloak, or who's a dev.05:42
Jucatoheh. I have to do a lot of /whois later when I try to make the transcripts05:42
Hobbseeheh05:43
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mhbhmm ... can somebody guess how soon the next kubuntu meeting will be?05:54
Hobbseenope05:54
Hobbseewhenever we set one05:55
Hobbseemhb: add stuff to the agenda, and we'll have one when riddell gets back, or sometime after05:55
mhbHobbsee: it's not that important, I just wanted to try to apply for the Kubuntu membership05:57
Hobbseemhb: fun :)05:57
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alleeAnyone knows if someone works on merging Tonios digikam/showfoto split from 0.8.2 to 0.9-rc1?07:26
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kwwiire07:58
kwwiimhb: carlosg was looking for you in #oxygen07:59
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Lureimbrandon: you session is now?09:01
Lures/you/your/09:01
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fdovingJucato: good question :)09:43
fdovingtvtime. bbl.09:43
Jucatofdoving: hehe :)09:44
=== Jucato hopes imbrandon won't kill him later :)
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=== gnomefreak hasnt gotten to him with my questions yet but i wont ask them in class. too many questions that way
Jucatoheh09:48
JucatoI just wanted somethings to be out in public, something I can "quote" when people harass me :P09:48
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Jucatolol09:49
=== crimsun removes his flash highlight as well.
jdongcrimsun: sheesh you have a highlight on everything09:49
jdongalsa09:49
jdongkernel09:49
jdongpancakes09:49
Jucatorofl09:49
crimsunI'm going to alsa your kernel into a pancake for feisty, yes.09:50
Jucatohehehe09:50
jdongJucato: might wanna stick "DEBIAN_FRONTEND="interactive" dpkg --configure -a" in klippy :)09:50
crimsunadded to ignore list09:50
Jucato:P09:50
jdongcrimsun: poke :)09:50
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=== jdong adds hunting down new beryl repos to his todo list
DaSkreechnew?09:51
DaSkreech the old ones got nuked?09:51
jdongDaSkreech: the mirror I'm using is giving me http/50009:52
DaSkreechask in #ubuntu-xgl if it's temporary09:52
DaSkreechThe server was in iraq or something09:52
nixternalQUESTION: What should I get my mom for Christmas?09:55
nixternallets see you answer that one imbrandon ;)09:55
gnomefreaknixternal: ubuntu pc09:55
nixternaldid that months ago09:55
Hawkwindnixternal: The winning lottery ticket09:55
gnomefreakcan never have too many ubuntu pcs :)09:55
nixternalya right, the winning lottery ticket is mine09:55
gnomefreakoh i forgot to check my numbers for sat09:55
Hawkwindnixternal: I do hope you'd share, atleast with your mom :)09:55
nixternalas i did too09:55
Jucatoheh :)09:56
nixternali will share with KDE and Kubuntu first, mom is second, or third depending on the order09:56
nixternalshoot, mom is fourth, forgot about me09:56
Jucatolol09:56
nixternalactually, kde and kubuntu would be second and third..im definitely first09:57
jdongnixternal: you want in on my black friday stash? ;-)09:57
jdongnixternal: I actually have a 32" LCD HDTV I don't really care much for09:57
nixternalgrrr09:57
jdonggetting all the freakin HDMI whatnot cables is more expensive than the TV :)09:57
nixternali don't want to hear about black friday ever again09:57
nixternalblack friday was almost black eye friday..to many crazy people with a thump wish09:58
nixternalthe scroll wheels on the new microsoft mice...are by far the greatest invention ever known to man09:59
jdongnixternal: no way, the saitek eclipse is :)10:00
nixternali messed with that..but the smoothness of the new ms mice...omg awesome10:00
nixternalno more clickity clickity feeling with the scroll wheel..it is smooth...almost feels like it should be broke it is so good10:01
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DaSkreechJucato: are you really still awake?10:02
Jucatoof course10:03
Jucatodang, konvi just crashed...10:03
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ryanakcahmm... can you use Qt in python?10:14
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Lureryanakca: PyQt10:14
ryanakcabut I don't want to end up having learned python but not being able to use it :)10:14
ryanakcagood10:15
ryanakcaLure: got a link?10:15
ryanakcanevermind, I'll google it :)10:15
Lurehttp://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/10:15
Lurehttp://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pykde/10:15
ryanakcathanks10:16
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ryanakcaThe cost of a commercial PyQt license for a single developer is 350 (UK Pounds Sterling).10:19
ryanakca@.@10:19
ryanakcaErm... I take it that doesn't apply to open source developpers?10:19
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Lureryanakca: yep - free for opensource10:27
Lureryanakca: same as qt10:27
ryanakcaphew10:30
ryanakcathat comes out to about 800$ CAD, more than I make in a year...10:30
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lotusleafHi, I hope this is the correct place to ask this, I tried #ubuntu-motu several days ago but received no response. When I try to install "kdar" in Kubuntu Edgy, I receive the following message: "kdar:  Depends: libdar3c2a  but it is not installable" I noticed on the Ubuntu Forums someone else posted about this previously. Are there any plans for libdar3c2a to be available in Edgy? Thanks for reading10:41
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ryanakcalotusleaf: maybe ask in #kubuntu ?11:01
ryanakcanevermind :)11:01
lotusleafryanakca: thx, I think I asked there, too but received no response11:02
lotusleafryanakca: actually, yes, I did several times for an hour or two11:02
lotusleafryanakca: but with no response ;) So this is my final attempt11:02
ryanakcalotusleaf: why not just package it yourself? and is kdar from a 3rd party repo? or is it in main/universe/multiverse11:02
lotusleafryanakca: I believe kdar is in universe, I think.11:03
lotusleafryanakca: well, I've thought of that, but this package was in dapper, and it's a pretty important one so I was curious why it wasn't in Edgy11:03
ryanakcalotusleaf: odd, I would file a bug against it in launchpad...11:04
lotusleafryanakca: thanks, I'll look into that =)11:04
ryanakcalibdar64-4 and libdar-dev are available in the repos...11:05
ryanakcabut that's probably not the same thing as libdar3c2a...11:05
lotusleafryanakca: yup & nope libdar has a different version for libdar64 :) but thx for checking11:05
ryanakcaah11:06
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lotusleafryanakca: would I file this bug under a new product "kdar" or "libdar3c2a" ?11:11
lotusleafryanakca: it would be my first time on launchpad ;)11:11
ryanakcaoh... I think it would be kdar11:12
lotusleafk thx11:12
lotusleaf:)11:12
ryanakcadunno though11:12
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alleelotusleaf: I assume that kdar just needs a rebuild.  c2a reminds on an old migration in debian.11:14
lotusleafallee: thanks, so should I hold off posting to launchpad?11:14
alleelotusleaf: no11:14
lotusleafallee: ok, thanks =)11:14
alleebut if you're insterested in a quick&dirty solution:  sudo -i apt-get build-dep kdar; fakeroot apt-get -b source kdar; sudo dpkg -i kdar*.deb11:16
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fdovingnite all.11:18
alleefdoving: nite11:19
lotusleafallee: thx & gnite11:19
lotusleafI get the message "11:19
lotusleaf"KDar does not use Malone as its bug tracker." on launchpad11:19
lotusleafryanakca: should I select "Bugs are tracked in Malone" for this new product?11:21
alleelotusleaf: you used the wrong links.   But I just saw it's already reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdar/+bug/6269911:22
UbugtuMalone bug 62699 in kdar "[edgy]  wrong dependencies in kdar" [Undecided,Confirmed] 11:22
alleelotusleaf: feel free to add a comment and ask when it get's fixed in edgy ;)11:22
lotusleafallee: oh, thanks very much =) ok, so I made kdar as product, did I make mistake and need to remove it?11:22
lotusleafhttps://launchpad.net/products/kdar/11:23
alleelotusleaf: if you can yes ;)11:23
lotusleafthx :)11:23
alleelotusleaf: you need to use product ubuntu then pkgs kdar11:23
lotusleafallee: =) thx11:24
alleelotusleaf: lauchpad can be a monster, I know ;)11:24
lotusleafallee: hehe, it's not bad, just my first time11:24
lotusleafok, I confirmed the issue thanks again ryanakca and allee11:33
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ryanakcanp lotusleaf11:47
lotusleaf:)11:47
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lotusleafah, ha! it turns out I was correct in making https://launchpad.net/products/kdar after all12:12
DaSkreechCongrats12:13
lotusleafnow to find others to help confirm bug 62699 ;)12:13
UbugtuMalone bug 62699 in kdar "[edgy]  wrong dependencies in kdar" [Undecided,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/6269912:13
alleelotusleaf: why was it right to create kdar product?12:14

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