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troy_sgreets msikma08:01
msikmaHello Troy08:03
msikmaWhat's up?08:03
msikmaHow's Ubun2 going?08:05
elkbuntuit's still spelled without numbers, for start08:07
msikmaUbun2 is a design project for Ubuntu08:12
elkbuntuah, cool08:13
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villerhi08:14
villerwhat's happening with ubuntu-art?08:14
villernothing is going on for feisty08:15
kwwiiI guess it is still too early to tell08:18
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villerwhy too early08:26
villerthey should say something08:26
kwwiisure, I agree, but since nothing has happened it must be too early for someone's planning08:27
villerthe ubuntu-marketing list (which I'm also subscribed to) is having conversations all the time08:27
villerprobably the developers list too08:27
kwwiisure08:27
kwwiimy guess is that the problems during the last cycle still need to be worked out08:27
villerok08:28
kwwiibut I must add that even though Kubuntu artwork (which I did) worked out great and on time, there is also little happening on that front08:29
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troy_smsikma09:48
troy_sping09:48
kwwiihi troy09:49
kwwiihow's life?09:49
troy_sBusy as hell.09:50
troy_sYourself?09:50
=== PingunZ greets kwwii and troy_s :)
troy_sPingunz... sorry bro... didn't see you there.09:50
PingunZno problemo :)09:51
kwwiihi PingunZ09:51
PingunZkwwii, Will you be the kubuntu Feisty artist ? :)09:52
troy_sThe design for all buntu's is still completely hooped.09:52
PingunZCan I get some detailt about that ?09:52
PingunZ:)09:52
PingunZI wanna see that starbuck's work ..  :)09:53
kwwiiPingunZ: not sure...I've talked to sabdfl about it but until now do not have a contract09:56
PingunZHmm09:57
PingunZBefore I say mean things about sabfl .. can I see some starbuck work ? :)09:57
troy_soh crap pingunz.  did i not ship you some of their design work?09:58
PingunZnowp09:58
PingunZHow bad is it ? :p09:58
troy_shere is a taster...09:58
troy_slol.  it is some of the best design of late 20th09:58
=== PingunZ downloads :)
PingunZtroy_s, No, I mean .. icons .. or wallpapers .. or dunno10:00
PingunZlinux art10:00
PingunZtroy_s, Has he ever made any of those ?10:03
troy_sthat is a team that ended up with that packaging.10:04
troy_sthere is no 'he' in good design teams.10:04
troy_salthough there are often folks at the higher end who get the accolades.10:04
PingunZSo .. is there any visible linux art online ? :D10:05
msikmaHello troy_s10:06
msikmaHow's Ubuntu art going? I've not paid attention to this channel for quite some t ime10:06
PingunZmsikma, I was just asking the same thing ;)10:07
msikmahehe10:07
PingunZmsikma, Looks like Starbuck is taking over .. don't ask me more :)10:07
msikmaI have worked on some art but very little. And I still need to make the Metacity/widgets theme design into a real, working version.10:07
PingunZyou should ask troy_s about it .. looks like he knows more10:08
msikmaI really don't have the time to learn all about it, unfortunately; at least not now. It seems like a slightly esoteric system. Maybe I'll post an advertisement so someone can do it for me and be the co-author of the theme.10:09
troy_sthere is bugger all10:10
troy_sregarding official ubuntu artwork10:10
troy_sit is all in the hands of cliff10:10
msikmaCliff?10:10
PingunZmsikma, He seems to be the _art_ team now ;)10:11
troy_she is10:11
kwwiiexamples of his work?10:11
troy_she is the guy who did that tremendous job on dapper10:11
PingunZI keep asking about it ..10:12
troy_swww.spacejunkdesign.com10:12
PingunZWhat does tremendous mean ? :)10:12
_MMA_Hi guys. Does Andrew Fitzsimon hang out here? Id like to chat with him about the "Ubuntu-Title" font.10:12
troy_syes he does from time to time _MMA_10:12
PingunZrofl .. I'm stuck in his flash movie10:12
troy_sits the last flash10:12
PingunZcan I get a link to the real homepage ? :)10:12
troy_syou will need a proprietary system to see it or the beta linux10:12
_MMA_troy_s: Whats his nick so I can keep an eye out.10:13
PingunZI only see his picture10:13
msikmaThat site of his looks okay. Not anything great.10:13
troy_s_mma_ sorry i cant remember, it has his last name in it10:13
msikmaI don't really like this kind of site, though, so I may be biased. I don't find the design thrilling.10:13
troy_smsikma -- its tripe.10:13
_MMA_Ok. Thank you.10:14
PingunZCan someone like .. link me to a picture of his site .. or send a a screenshot of some of his work ? :D10:14
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troy_smost of it is spec work pingunz10:14
troy_sof shoes10:14
troy_swith a little that it looks like a friend of his used.10:14
kwwiicool stuff10:15
msikmaPingunZ: sure10:15
msikmajust a sec10:15
PingunZk thanks10:15
msikmahttp://gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/Picture%204_2.png10:15
PingunZNice ..10:16
PingunZBut does he have any *linux* art ?10:16
troy_sthat's a good image.10:16
troy_spingunz:  it is kind of irrelevant.10:16
msikmatroy_s: I don't do that JPEG rubbish :) just the real thing, 32-bit PNG!10:17
troy_schances are, if sab is going to hire someone worth their salt (and I don't mean to hint that 'cliff' is _the_ guy) he will have probably zero linux experience.10:17
msikmaWell, that can be a good thing too. But I sincerely believe that someone with a good amount of experience with the system is a better pick.10:17
troy_sbut until sab accepts that no one 'worth their salt' will put up with micromanaging when it comes to art and design, it will repeat the same cycles.10:18
troy_smsikma -- certainly pros and cons to both.10:18
troy_sultimately, it needs to be a design lead.  not a single solo warrior type.10:18
troy_ssomeone who is attentive to contemporary design (outside of gimmicky operating system hell) and a formalized education in design.10:19
PingunZlook at kw.wii .. he made the suse art .. as a singe art warrior .. and he got promoted to a *herO*10:19
troy_shey look at pingunz10:19
troy_sthat image has liebniz in it10:19
PingunZrofl10:19
troy_slol10:19
kwwiilol10:20
troy_swe were talking about it yesterday with his theory of language that operates at the speed of thought / light.10:20
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kwwiiI wish10:20
PingunZnight all10:20
msikmaOh, troy_s, take a look here: http://www.yomaraugusto.com/ - this is a Brazillian designer who came to work at our studio recently, he's got amazing typography stuff.10:20
troy_sthat's the thing10:20
troy_sa good lead will know that linework, typography etc, are all different domains.10:20
msikmaHe's teaching us calligraphy courses10:20
troy_slooking now... is it bloody flash?10:20
msikmaYes, sorry. The site is rubbish, he doesn't know anything about the web. Some friend of his made it.10:21
troy_shold on loading a shite 32 bit browser.10:21
troy_swow...10:21
troy_sis it all his?10:21
troy_sthat mixing of sketch with illustration is pretty po mo10:22
troy_si like that quite a bit.10:22
msikmahaha, maybe a bit10:22
msikmaYeah, all of it is his.10:22
msikmaIt's really amazing to watch him grab a calligraphy pen and jot down beautiful typefaces as if it's his handwriting10:23
troy_shis sketchbooks are nice too.10:23
troy_si like that styling... that is that really cutting edge organic feel.10:23
troy_scontemporary organics.10:23
troy_squite beautiful really.10:23
troy_swow...10:24
troy_shis illustration is quite amazing.10:24
msikmaI like the brownone sketch book. You can get a good view of his calligraphy stuff from it.10:24
troy_smsikma -- under image the 'illustration' link10:24
troy_svery good work10:24
troy_sgee no shocker10:25
troy_smasters in fine art10:25
troy_sfrom the nederlands.10:25
msikmafrom Brazil :)10:25
troy_simpressive stuff10:25
troy_syes but his ma is from the home of rem10:25
msikmaI'm glad you like it.10:25
troy_sactually, the studio you are grunting in has some pretty talented folks.  the hr department knows what to look for on a resume.10:25
msikmaWe don't have a hr department. :P10:26
troy_swell10:26
troy_sthe head cheeses who are doing the hiring then... how does that sound?10:26
msikmaIncluding interns, there's 9 of us.10:26
troy_sthey are hiring folks with a good compliment of ability and education assuring that they will be on the edge of contemporary design.10:26
troy_sso this fellow is one of the 9?10:26
msikmaYep10:27
troy_s'superficy' is quite a nice photo too...10:27
troy_slatrec black is well done too.10:27
troy_ssheesh...10:27
msikmaVery inspiring to look at a good portfolio.10:28
troy_swell it is inspiring to look at work that is innovative10:28
msikmaHe told me that Brazilian design is essentially much like German design.10:29
troy_semily carr has some very talented students over here.10:29
msikmaIs that where you spent college?10:29
troy_sno10:29
troy_si have a few aquaints who gradded from there.10:30
troy_sthe 'bizz' cover on his page is impressive.10:31
troy_si have to say i love yoma's stylings.  right up my alley.10:31
troy_swow -- looks like he did a mercado release or was involved.10:32
troy_shttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_carr -- that's the artist who's name the school is founded in.10:33
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troy_sbersace -- ltns bro.11:20
bersacetroy_s: hi ! :D11:20
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coz_hello all11:29
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