=== effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-0ceveat.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-112-116.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === msikma [n=Msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:01] greets msikma [08:03] Hello Troy [08:03] What's up? [08:05] How's Ubun2 going? [08:07] it's still spelled without numbers, for start [08:12] Ubun2 is a design project for Ubuntu [08:13] ah, cool === elkbuntu apologises, she's semi-allergic to words with numbers in them ;) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ali_ [n=ali@217.218.71.97] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54956B82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === andreasn [n=andreas@h151n2fls33o839.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host238-223-static.40-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [12:40] hi === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-artwork.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Topic for #ubuntu-artwork: Welcome to #ubuntu-artwork! === Topic (#ubuntu-artwork): set by Seveas at Sun Nov 26 11:48:00 2006 === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F4893.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === lapo [n=lapo@host102-254-static.189-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === klepas [n=klepas@n219079206156.netvigator.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === viller [n=chatzill@88-196-15-254-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:14] hi [08:14] what's happening with ubuntu-art? [08:15] nothing is going on for feisty [08:18] I guess it is still too early to tell === msikma [n=Msikma@s55933ad4.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === effraie [n=effraie@jem75-1-82-228-146-152.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [08:26] why too early [08:26] they should say something [08:27] sure, I agree, but since nothing has happened it must be too early for someone's planning [08:27] the ubuntu-marketing list (which I'm also subscribed to) is having conversations all the time [08:27] probably the developers list too [08:27] sure [08:27] my guess is that the problems during the last cycle still need to be worked out [08:28] ok [08:29] but I must add that even though Kubuntu artwork (which I did) worked out great and on time, there is also little happening on that front === PingunZ [n=kristof@224.129-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === PseudoPlacebo [n=Placebo@user-0ceveat.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [09:48] msikma [09:48] ping [09:49] hi troy [09:49] how's life? [09:50] Busy as hell. [09:50] Yourself? === PingunZ greets kwwii and troy_s :) [09:50] Pingunz... sorry bro... didn't see you there. [09:51] no problemo :) [09:51] hi PingunZ [09:52] kwwii, Will you be the kubuntu Feisty artist ? :) [09:52] The design for all buntu's is still completely hooped. [09:52] Can I get some detailt about that ? [09:52] :) [09:53] I wanna see that starbuck's work .. :) [09:56] PingunZ: not sure...I've talked to sabdfl about it but until now do not have a contract [09:57] Hmm [09:57] Before I say mean things about sabfl .. can I see some starbuck work ? :) [09:58] oh crap pingunz. did i not ship you some of their design work? [09:58] nowp [09:58] How bad is it ? :p [09:58] here is a taster... [09:58] lol. it is some of the best design of late 20th === PingunZ downloads :) [10:00] troy_s, No, I mean .. icons .. or wallpapers .. or dunno [10:00] linux art [10:03] troy_s, Has he ever made any of those ? [10:04] that is a team that ended up with that packaging. [10:04] there is no 'he' in good design teams. [10:04] although there are often folks at the higher end who get the accolades. [10:05] So .. is there any visible linux art online ? :D [10:06] Hello troy_s [10:06] How's Ubuntu art going? I've not paid attention to this channel for quite some t ime [10:07] msikma, I was just asking the same thing ;) [10:07] hehe [10:07] msikma, Looks like Starbuck is taking over .. don't ask me more :) [10:07] I have worked on some art but very little. And I still need to make the Metacity/widgets theme design into a real, working version. [10:08] you should ask troy_s about it .. looks like he knows more [10:09] I really don't have the time to learn all about it, unfortunately; at least not now. It seems like a slightly esoteric system. Maybe I'll post an advertisement so someone can do it for me and be the co-author of the theme. [10:10] there is bugger all [10:10] regarding official ubuntu artwork [10:10] it is all in the hands of cliff [10:10] Cliff? [10:11] msikma, He seems to be the _art_ team now ;) [10:11] he is [10:11] examples of his work? [10:11] he is the guy who did that tremendous job on dapper [10:12] I keep asking about it .. [10:12] www.spacejunkdesign.com [10:12] What does tremendous mean ? :) [10:12] <_MMA_> Hi guys. Does Andrew Fitzsimon hang out here? Id like to chat with him about the "Ubuntu-Title" font. [10:12] yes he does from time to time _MMA_ [10:12] rofl .. I'm stuck in his flash movie [10:12] its the last flash [10:12] can I get a link to the real homepage ? :) [10:12] you will need a proprietary system to see it or the beta linux [10:13] <_MMA_> troy_s: Whats his nick so I can keep an eye out. [10:13] I only see his picture [10:13] That site of his looks okay. Not anything great. [10:13] _mma_ sorry i cant remember, it has his last name in it [10:13] I don't really like this kind of site, though, so I may be biased. I don't find the design thrilling. [10:13] msikma -- its tripe. [10:14] <_MMA_> Ok. Thank you. [10:14] Can someone like .. link me to a picture of his site .. or send a a screenshot of some of his work ? :D === PingunZ has flash probs [10:14] most of it is spec work pingunz [10:14] of shoes [10:14] with a little that it looks like a friend of his used. [10:15] cool stuff [10:15] PingunZ: sure [10:15] just a sec [10:15] k thanks [10:15] http://gamingw.net/pubaccess/28695/Picture%204_2.png [10:16] Nice .. [10:16] But does he have any *linux* art ? [10:16] that's a good image. [10:16] pingunz: it is kind of irrelevant. [10:17] troy_s: I don't do that JPEG rubbish :) just the real thing, 32-bit PNG! [10:17] chances are, if sab is going to hire someone worth their salt (and I don't mean to hint that 'cliff' is _the_ guy) he will have probably zero linux experience. [10:17] Well, that can be a good thing too. But I sincerely believe that someone with a good amount of experience with the system is a better pick. [10:18] but until sab accepts that no one 'worth their salt' will put up with micromanaging when it comes to art and design, it will repeat the same cycles. [10:18] msikma -- certainly pros and cons to both. [10:18] ultimately, it needs to be a design lead. not a single solo warrior type. [10:19] someone who is attentive to contemporary design (outside of gimmicky operating system hell) and a formalized education in design. [10:19] look at kw.wii .. he made the suse art .. as a singe art warrior .. and he got promoted to a *herO* [10:19] hey look at pingunz [10:19] that image has liebniz in it [10:19] rofl [10:19] lol [10:20] lol [10:20] we were talking about it yesterday with his theory of language that operates at the speed of thought / light. === PingunZ is off to bed [10:20] I wish [10:20] night all [10:20] Oh, troy_s, take a look here: http://www.yomaraugusto.com/ - this is a Brazillian designer who came to work at our studio recently, he's got amazing typography stuff. [10:20] that's the thing [10:20] a good lead will know that linework, typography etc, are all different domains. [10:20] He's teaching us calligraphy courses [10:20] looking now... is it bloody flash? [10:21] Yes, sorry. The site is rubbish, he doesn't know anything about the web. Some friend of his made it. [10:21] hold on loading a shite 32 bit browser. [10:21] wow... [10:21] is it all his? [10:22] that mixing of sketch with illustration is pretty po mo [10:22] i like that quite a bit. [10:22] haha, maybe a bit [10:22] Yeah, all of it is his. [10:23] It's really amazing to watch him grab a calligraphy pen and jot down beautiful typefaces as if it's his handwriting [10:23] his sketchbooks are nice too. [10:23] i like that styling... that is that really cutting edge organic feel. [10:23] contemporary organics. [10:23] quite beautiful really. [10:24] wow... [10:24] his illustration is quite amazing. [10:24] I like the brownone sketch book. You can get a good view of his calligraphy stuff from it. [10:24] msikma -- under image the 'illustration' link [10:24] very good work [10:25] gee no shocker [10:25] masters in fine art [10:25] from the nederlands. [10:25] from Brazil :) [10:25] impressive stuff [10:25] yes but his ma is from the home of rem [10:25] I'm glad you like it. [10:25] actually, the studio you are grunting in has some pretty talented folks. the hr department knows what to look for on a resume. [10:26] We don't have a hr department. :P [10:26] well [10:26] the head cheeses who are doing the hiring then... how does that sound? [10:26] Including interns, there's 9 of us. [10:26] they are hiring folks with a good compliment of ability and education assuring that they will be on the edge of contemporary design. [10:26] so this fellow is one of the 9? [10:27] Yep [10:27] 'superficy' is quite a nice photo too... [10:27] latrec black is well done too. [10:27] sheesh... [10:28] Very inspiring to look at a good portfolio. [10:28] well it is inspiring to look at work that is innovative [10:29] He told me that Brazilian design is essentially much like German design. [10:29] emily carr has some very talented students over here. [10:29] Is that where you spent college? [10:29] no [10:30] i have a few aquaints who gradded from there. [10:31] the 'bizz' cover on his page is impressive. [10:31] i have to say i love yoma's stylings. right up my alley. [10:32] wow -- looks like he did a mercado release or was involved. [10:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emily_carr -- that's the artist who's name the school is founded in. === bersace [n=bersace@did75-13-82-243-217-90.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:20] bersace -- ltns bro. [11:20] troy_s: hi ! :D === coz_ [n=coz_@pool-151-201-27-176.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [11:29] hello all === coz_ [n=coz_@pool-151-201-27-176.pitt.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-artwork ["Leaving"]