[12:34] aw === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === theCore [n=alex@modemcable111.199-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jono [n=jono@88-107-64-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:03] Burgundavia: ping! [01:04] jono: pong [01:04] Burgundavia: want to skype? [01:04] need to install it, just a sec [01:04] ok give me a few mins to get downstairs too [01:10] quick question how does one make screen cap vids? [01:10] istanbul seems pretty lame [01:10] need sound or not? [01:10] what format are you looking for? [01:11] hmm [01:11] hold on [01:12] no sound any format [01:14] bynanz does gif === poningru guesses Burgundavia got into the skype call [01:15] oh hmm === rjian [n=Infinitu@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === adfa [n=rjian_se@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === adfa is now known as rjian === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@199.212.72.37] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:43] Burgundavia, ping [03:17] theCore: pong [03:19] hey Madpilot, rex [03:19] hi Burgundavia [03:20] enjoying the snow? === rjian is now known as rjian[busy] [03:21] indeed [03:22] did you lose power at any point? [03:23] we did here, briefly. I was up at the airport all day, it flickered a few times and made the UPS boxes complain, but never went out. === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-67-64-112-116.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32 [i=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034084072.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:10] Are we going to get 23 out tonight? [04:11] :) [04:29] Burgundavia, you been quoted on Linux.com [04:29] yep [04:29] and slashdot and arstechnica [04:30] he's been quoted all over the place the past weekend [04:30] whoa [04:30] they consider you as a developer [04:30] see you're developer now [04:31] funny, given I have met joe [04:33] joe? [04:33] That writer of the article. [04:34] oh [04:34] gotcha [04:36] So... UWN23? [04:36] Burgundavia: Are you feeling better? [04:37] yep, but still tired [04:39] Are we going to roll out UWN23 tonight? [04:40] yep [04:40] I need to poke at my UWN queyue === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:35] somerville32: can you add a bit about http://behindubuntu.org/interviews/JonoBacon/ [05:35] jenda: around? [05:35] I already did [05:35] oh, right === Burgundavia is slowly loosing his mind [05:36] :) [05:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeamMeeting20061124 <-- short para on that? [05:37] Sure :) [05:37] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-November/022542.html [05:38] k [05:38] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2006-November/009449.html [05:40] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2006-November/000806.html [05:41] http://thamizh.ubuntuforums.org/ <-- new tamil forums === theCore_ [n=alex@modemcable111.199-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:53] Ack1 [05:53] Wiki bug! === rjian[busy] is now known as rjian === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-132-184.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:59] Rheet! [05:59] hey mpt [06:00] I think it probably needs a "what makes this an interesting release" bit [06:00] Burgundavia, well we did already ditch the feature thing for the spec thing [06:01] true, but covering new crack in Feisty is importnat [06:02] mpt: RHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET [06:02] on the topic of version numbers, i think keeping them for security has a valid purpose, and it's not a huge web of alphanumeric babble [06:02] thats a first here [06:02] :D === poningru jumps into UWN [06:02] whats there to be done? [06:02] we are discussing the Feisty section [06:02] Colin Watson is a Canonical employee right? [06:02] yepo [06:02] correct Kees Cook's name :-) [06:02] Also, I'm editing the page right now (just so you all know, haha) [06:03] somerville32, that's why we're adding things to your todo list [06:03] haha [06:03] [06:03] why not gobby it? [06:03] here is a thought: I can dump all the interesting releases on a page and we can attack them as a team [06:03] go out there and see if we can find a changelog [06:04] ? [06:04] mmk [06:04] that sounds like work [06:04] yes, yes it does [06:04] not much, however, if we all do it [06:05] we can also be ruthless [06:05] if we cannot find a changelog, we drop it [06:07] dump it then good sir [06:07] we can try it.. awaiting somerville32's go-ahead for gobby dumping [06:07] right then [06:08] somerville32: finish up what you are doing in the next 30 secs, save and then dump to gobby [06:09] Yes, Sir! === somerville32 salutes sharply. [06:09] [06:09] ok, applications list is up in gobby [06:10] is nasty looking, but I think we can handle it [06:10] one of these days I have to clean up that sucker [06:10] Ok, saved. [06:10] you do [06:11] Whats the address and port? [06:11] 72-209-68-178 [06:11] and port is the default [06:11] 6522 iirc [06:11] password ufl@ftw [06:13] when you take an application to research, copy it over to the main page, to tell people that you are working on that [06:13] somerville32: dump the raw wiki text on gobby [06:13] if you cannot find an upstream changelog, ditch it [06:15] Ok === somerville32 is connecting. [06:16] http://qsynth.sourceforge.net/qsynth-index.html <-- there is a good example of a good upstream changes file [06:16] Ok pasted raw intto UWN23 [06:16] for larger projects like KDE and GNOME, simply link to the larger changelog [06:17] make sure you mention the uploader [06:17] version number is only important if this is a major new version [06:17] poningru: dig into qsythn [06:18] k [06:19] Burgundavia: where do you want the changelogs to go? [06:20] under each update thing? [06:20] I will write an example [06:20] blah the website to UWN 22 made my computer crawl for no good reason [06:22] see the example [06:24] should I put in another title? [06:24] nope [06:24] ===? [06:24] k === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@74.39.212.101] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === imbrandon [n=imbrando@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:36] moins all [07:39] imbrandon, we're in gobby with the UWN, if you want any last words [07:40] 72.209.68.178 ufl@ftw [07:44] i think i'm good this time, you all probably got it covered, my big stuff will be next week ( beryl is in the NEW queue now heheh ) [07:44] who is this person? towsonu2003 [07:44] imbrandon: beryl!!!!!!!!#!@!@#$!!!! yay crack!Q@W#$!@!!@#$#Q$^@#$ === Burgundavia qw-8q4tw=098sfdgpojq40=8a [07:46] Burgundavia: hahaha [07:46] yea [07:46] my thoughts too [07:46] boy that was fun [07:46] i'm reaming upstream atm over some of their bugs [07:46] :) [07:47] can I join? I have a bigger spoon [07:47] hehehe [07:49] Burgundavia: hehe [07:58] hmm.. dad has a metre long memorial wooden spoon somewhere [07:58] perfect [08:05] Ugh oh. [08:06] I think gobby froze on me [08:08] hmm, fu n [08:09] it does that occasionally [08:09] somerville32: @ your ping... [08:09] maybe too informative :) [08:09] "a free Ubuntu Poster, like the one bellow, for free!" [08:10] Gak [08:10] somerville32: wait... I like it ;) [08:10] hehe [08:10] :D [08:10] but it should be more obvious that it's intentional... [08:11] "...a free Ubuntu Poster, like the one bellow, for extra free!"? [08:11] see now. [08:12] or... [08:12] :) [08:12] we are the free software world, afterall :) [08:13] BTW, even if you don't win the poster, they only cost $1 ;) [08:13] hehe [08:13] Jenda: Can you release the lock on the wiki page so I can import from gobby? [08:13] hmm... mine didnt arrive yet :( [08:13] elkbuntu: patience, some have arrived just yesterday. [08:13] somerville32: how? [08:14] It's ok, I think you already did [08:14] :) [08:14] [08:14] Burgundavia: Are you going to put the table of contents back in? [08:14] jenda, but but.. they're so awesome i want to huggle them [08:14] hmm [08:15] BTW, somerville32, you might want to put [:CodySomerville: Cody Somerville] in the credits instead (up to you) [08:15] elkbuntu: hehe :) let's hope they gets there soon :) [08:15] Jenda: kk :) === jenda goes hunt [08:16] jenda: umm, no moinism in the UWN [08:16] Jenda: How much to order posters agian? [08:16] lol [08:16] We missed something [08:17] Changes in Feisty (Not finished) [08:17] got it [08:17] :) [08:18] well.. it sorta would have fit even if it slipped through [08:18] [08:18] it might have been good to remind people that feisty isnt finished yet ;) [08:19] Alright! [08:19] Lets get started on issue 24 now! :D [08:20] go ahead [08:21] :] [08:26] read to send. Last check === somerville32 will proof once more. [08:27] Found typo [08:27] organisations [08:27] It is spelt with a z, right? [08:27] that is not a typo [08:28] s is international, z is american [08:28] Thats not what Firefox 2.0 tells me [08:28] Oh [08:28] Stupid Firefox [08:28] icident is a typo though [08:31] fix it [08:32] Ok, done === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:34] err what happened? === poningru reads scrollback === somerville32 pokes Jenda. [08:34] one last readthrough [08:34] sorry had an impromptu alacloud.net meeting [08:37] :] [08:39] ok, we ready? === somerville32 nods. [08:41] err... [08:41] sorry, was away. [08:41] breakfasting. [08:41] jenda: one last sanity check [08:41] somerville32: posters are $(5 + x) === jenda reads through the UWN [08:42] Jenda: How many people have ordered? [08:42] somerville32: dunno about people, but sent over 300 posters [08:43] All happy campers? :] [08:43] I think so, except elkbuntu who's still waiting ;) [08:44] yeah... mean post office... [08:44] i want posters to huggle [08:44] Ever shipped to Canada? [08:44] several times, I believe. [08:44] And what currency is this in? [08:45] USD === jenda stares at the "a free Ubuntu Poster, like the one bellow, for free!" [08:45] fix it [08:46] will do [08:46] I just saw the calling all LoCos [08:46] what type of stuff are you interested in? [08:46] ie. - we had a meeting last week. [08:47] what you are doing [08:47] fixing [08:47] fixed [08:47] Jenda: I'll buy 10 posters. [08:48] somerville32: cool, lemme just finish reading this thrilling piece of thing, and I'll note ya [08:48] jenda, newsworthy stuff mostly. we're not really after 'joe blogg's cds arrived' [08:48] somerville32: as with all monday-orders, you are lucky, because they'll get shipped out immediately. [08:48] I'll pay with paypal [08:48] :] [08:49] Whats your e-mail address? [08:49] lets focus on getting this UWN out [08:49] elkbuntu: how about 'joe blogg scheduled a meeting, and got terribly pwned over the reservation of a pub, as the pub he chose was already reserved, so had to wait in front of it for the rest of the team and had to drag them across town till they found an open one?" [08:49] indeed [08:50] somerville32: just a sec :) [08:50] jenda, not quite, unless a crapload of cds and merch got distributed :) [08:50] Burgundavia: can I add a bit about the Irish team's forum? [08:50] adding [08:52] added [08:53] :) [08:53] guys, is the formulation "As per usual," english? [08:54] yes [08:54] Found typo === somerville32 goes to correct. [08:55] ok [08:55] Fixed. [08:55] KAdressBook -> KAddressBook :) [08:58] screen-casts or screencasts? [08:58] one word [09:00] gotcha [09:00] Madpilot: payment received, thx - did teh posters get there? [09:01] jenda, don't think they're here yet; my mailing address isn't my residence, tho [09:01] ah, ok [09:02] OK, I'm done reading. [09:02] ok :) === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:02] What is your e-mail address? [09:03] somerville32: depends, do you want to pay by paypal directly, or by credit/debit card? [09:03] paypal directly [09:03] jenda at ubuntu dot com [09:03] fifteen dollars please ;) [09:04] somerville32: you done editing? [09:04] jenda: ? [09:04] Burgundavia: done [09:04] Yup [09:04] Done. [09:05] ok [09:05] elkbuntu: you done? [09:05] i wasnt touching it... other things atm [09:05] ok [09:05] Jenda: Aren't you going to ask me for my mailing address? :P [09:05] somerville32: no, paypal will tell me [09:06] Oh, cool :) [09:06] [09:06] Whats your local currency? [09:07] CZK [09:07] Czech Koruna [09:08] somerville32: what's your shipping address? :) [09:09] lol [09:09] (feel free to PM) [09:09] I thought you said it attached it with paypal payment === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:Burgundavia] : Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN 23 is out, 24 in progress [09:09] yes, but I need the address now, while you can pay with paypal at your leisure. [09:17] woot [09:17] so wait what did we miss? [09:17] nothing [09:17] work on 24 [09:19] or go to sleep [09:19] class in the morn... then make pirate art... then job interview [09:19] hooray for 5 hours of sleep [09:19] nn guys [09:19] we need to cover the Mark thingy next week === somerville32 has tomorrow (aka later today) off. [09:19] avoiding it just makes it worse [09:19] http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7486/997/ === somerville32 nods. === poningru shakes fist at somerville32 [09:20] Burgundavia++ [09:20] Somerville32++ [09:20] start adding links, like that one, to something [09:21] and add a note "DON'T START WRITING THIS ARTICLE" [09:21] we will write the article in gobby [09:21] where it will not sit, half finished, for a week on a wiki page [09:21] Who is "we", btw? === somerville32 grins. [09:21] the lot of us [09:21] The lot of us FTW :) [09:23] Burgundavia, WRT that link, what did I say last night about "How to Poach Devs, by SABDFL"? ;) [09:23] yep [09:24] We'll want to make sure we're completly objective, right? [09:24] absolutely [09:24] exactly why we are going to write in gobby, so we can arrive at consensus together === somerville32 nods. === Burgundavia wonders if you can have consensus seperately... [09:25] IMHO, this whole fighting just uses up valuable creativity and energy that could have been put into making the Linux Desktop better. [09:25] indeed, that will be the primary point I think we will want to make [09:26] I read the OpenSuse ml and some of the responses were very colourful [09:26] And they were _very_ mean [09:26] some of the reponses were less than civl [09:26] some were quite insightful === somerville32 nods. [09:31] How do you modify the template? [09:32] Oh, I think I figured it out. [09:36] ok, added lots of links [09:37] Burgundavia: I've updated the things we discussed in the template. [09:38] ok, cool [09:38] can you update 24 to reflect those changes? [09:38] Yup :) [09:39] thanks [09:39] We should do the accelerated-x specification for the specification spotlight since it is a hot hot topic right now [09:40] cover all the X specs [09:40] bulletproofX and composite by default [09:41] Sure :) [09:41] night all === somerville32 waves. [10:12] " IMHO, this whole fighting ... " ... not to mention it's detracting from the event [10:15] eh? [10:17] somerville32, i thought, given madpilot's remark previously, that your comment was about the open week, and was commenting that the fighting is more than just being a waste of energy, it's also putting a sour note over the whole event === somerville32 nods. [10:18] That too [10:21] I'm looking forward to open week stuff, although a lot of it's during class. [10:25] I am worried that the openweek stuff is going to be overshadowed by this opensuse stuff [10:26] Burgundavia, it already has been [10:26] to a certain extent, yes [10:26] Burgundavia, people arent talking about the open week, they're talking about poaching [10:27] yes [10:28] You know what I'm gonna do? Blog about open week and not say a word about the other crap. [10:28] :D [10:28] good plan [10:28] Actually, that's all my readership is likely to care about anyway. [10:29] tonyyarusso: you an Ubuntu member yet? [10:29] Burgundavia: No [10:29] fix that [10:29] Yes master [10:29] good boy :) [10:29] I'm waiting to see if the next CC meeting is a time I can make [10:30] jono gave me no timeframe, but said he would look into it [10:30] My biggest worry at this point is that it will fall either a) during an exam, or b) during the early-evening hours over Christmas break. [10:31] tonyyarusso, i did similar... except i acknowledged controversy [10:31] I want to become a member [10:31] If a, clearly I'm screwed, and if b, my family would be pissed if I hogged the phone line for as long as those meetings take (and given the length of agenda so far, I'm thinking 6 hours) === somerville32 hopes the next CC meeting is a time he can make as well. [10:32] brb [10:33] fwiw, the agenda needs updating [10:34] Ah crud, another e-acronym I don't know. [10:34] for what it's worth [10:35] Ah [10:36] Maybe I'd be able to schedule myself for a particular time in the CC meeting - that would be handy [10:36] about 1/3rd of those people have gone before the CC, the irc discussion i believe was dismissed as lacking clear arguement, and im not sure the translation leader thing is relevant any longer [10:37] better to let it sit, however [10:38] rather than preemptively nuke somethign and have somebody get annoyed over it [10:38] Burgundavia, yea. i have no intention of playing with the CC agenda plge [10:38] page* [10:38] ok, just checking === somerville32 [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034079057.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:39] i'd like for this thing attached to my neck remain that way === Burgundavia is tempting to say something rude, but that might be against the CoC [10:40] lol [10:40] ok, my boss spent his Saturday updating the company wiki on our offices [10:42] Website_Sumbission_Forms <-- actual name of a page on the company wiki [10:43] anyway, is almost 2 [10:43] need to sleep [10:44] Almost 6am here :] [10:44] crazy [10:44] There's a company wiki? Your employer is a lot more with it than most. [10:45] not really [10:45] it was more a case of "shiny?" "oh shiny!" [10:47] I just woke up. === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jerom1 [n=jeromeb@LSt-Amand-152-32-6-178.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jerom1 [n=jeromeb@LSt-Amand-152-32-6-178.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === jerom1 [n=jeromeb@LSt-Amand-152-32-6-178.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Red_Herring [n=rj@c-67-162-70-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === jerom1 [n=jeromeb@LSt-Amand-152-32-6-178.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === jono [n=jono@88-107-64-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-marketing.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Topic for #ubuntu-marketing: Welcome to the Ubuntu Marketing Team's IRC channel | We're here to fix Bug #1 | Please sign up to the mailing list, ubuntu-marketing at lists.ubuntu.com | UWN 23 is out, 24 in progress === Topic (#ubuntu-marketing): set by Burgundavia at Mon Nov 27 09:09:25 2006 === danbuch929 [n=emelia@70-39-156-18.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === davehat [n=David@212.49.74.61] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B271A6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === omgponiezlol [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === YoussefAssad [i=jassad@server1.freeshells.ch] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:16] Hello. [03:17] I'm having a spot of trouble sending mail to the list. I've been on the team for months, and every time I send something it sends it to a moderator queue, citing posting by a non-member. [03:17] Yes, the e-mail addy I am sending from is registered in launchpad.net === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:22] YoussefAssad: You should join the list [03:22] oh, okay. So that is distinct form the team. === YoussefAssad goes looking, but not before thanking tonyyarusso [03:23] YoussefAssad: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing [03:23] Yeah, LP teams and mailing lists aren't integrated [03:24] Ah, of course the quickest way to find the link is in the headers [03:26] though, I obviously had been subbed to that seeing how I was receiving the e-mails [03:26] anyho let's see if I cannow flame at will === jono [n=jono@88-107-64-195.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [03:29] oho! Works [03:30] I had an interesting picture which might mae a nice stock for ubuntu marketing purposes... [03:30] http://youssefassad.blogspot.com/2005/09/egyptian-linux-users-groups-second.html [03:30] ignore that, use this: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4359/958/1600/dsci1407.jpg === danbuch929 [n=emelia@70-39-156-18.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [03:54] is there an overarching workplan for the marketing team? [03:54] Sorry, I'm used to thinking in workplan terms [03:55] The wiki page has some goals, but it's not as defined as you would likely see for an employer's plan. [03:59] do you think it makes sense to have somethig structured like that? [04:06] If you want to put it together, it might be useful for some people. Others just do random things on the spur of the moment, so sometimes it's appropriate, sometimes not. [04:06] Hm. Random things. [04:07] I have positive experiences shepherding a LUG into structured work (a few scratches and bruises here and thee, but the results are phenomenal). I'm wondering if it might not make more sense to take a step back and think about that aspect [04:08] The workplan is certainly something I _can_ do (I do that with the UNDP and Grameen for bread and beer). But if such a resource would end up a disused wiki page, I won't. [04:10]