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| Burgwork | http://askthewebhost.net/blogs/asp/53712/ | 12:26 |
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| Burgwork | please add that to the UWN | 12:27 |
| Burgwork | http://feynmanboson.blogspot.com/2006/11/ubuntu-linux-for-human-beings.html | 12:29 |
| YoussefAssad | there was the chap in here earlier with the ubuntu HA cluster; did someone manage to point him in the right direction, or reach an understanding of whether it was worthy of propagation as an ubuntu success story? | 12:31 |
| Burgwork | no idea | 12:32 |
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| jono | jenda: ping! | 12:58 |
| tsmithe | he's probs not around... remember it's 1am in prague now | 12:58 |
| tsmithe | and his proxy means he never leaves | 12:59 |
| jono | right | 12:59 |
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| === rjian good morning people | ||
| YoussefAssad | morning rjian | 01:15 |
| rjian | YoussefAssad: morning 2 | 01:17 |
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| Madpilot | lotusleaf, ping | 03:05 |
| lotusleaf | Madpilot: pong | 03:11 |
| Madpilot | lotusleaf, PM? | 03:11 |
| lotusleaf | Madpilot: files received, apologies for delay, have been trying to get to the bottom of bug 62699 | 03:11 |
| Madpilot | no, this is about your website baner | 03:11 |
| Madpilot | banner, even | 03:11 |
| lotusleaf | ah | 03:12 |
| lotusleaf | thanks, sure pm ;-) | 03:12 |
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| Burgundavia | whose around right now? | 03:20 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i am | 03:20 |
| Madpilot | Mrh? | 03:20 |
| Burgundavia | who wants to help me work on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LookingForwardAtFeisty | 03:21 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 03:21 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia: i can give it a shot | 03:22 |
| Burgundavia | I am going to gobby it up, but I will lay it out first | 03:22 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia: okay that's fine, I helped with the write up of the official release notes for kubuntu edgy so i've done some of this | 03:23 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 03:23 |
| Admiral_Chicago | just let me know when you stopped edititng so i could see the wiki | 03:23 |
| Burgundavia | yep, will do | 03:24 |
| Burgundavia | ok, wiki page editing with urls for specs | 03:36 |
| Burgundavia | final sorting is far from complete | 03:36 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia: okay let me look at it | 03:37 |
| Burgundavia | we need to add the upstream stuff to that | 03:38 |
| Burgundavia | shall we move to gobby? | 03:38 |
| Burgundavia | Admiral_Chicago: ^ | 03:39 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia: gobby | 03:40 |
| Burgundavia | ok, to poningru and his gobby thne | 03:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | ? | 03:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i'm not sure what that is really | 03:40 |
| Burgundavia | a collaborative editor | 03:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | okay i get you | 03:40 |
| Burgundavia | you on edgy or dapper? | 03:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | let's add that | 03:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | odgy | 03:40 |
| Admiral_Chicago | s/edgy | 03:41 |
| Burgundavia | just install gobby then | 03:41 |
| Burgundavia | requires gtk | 03:41 |
| Admiral_Chicago | can do chief | 03:41 |
| Admiral_Chicago | ah this gobby this is pretty sweet | 03:45 |
| Burgundavia | see the ip and password on the Feisty page | 03:45 |
| Burgundavia | here is the general goal | 03:46 |
| Burgundavia | each spec should get at the very least a few lines | 03:46 |
| Burgundavia | feel free to link to other resources, such as blog posts | 03:46 |
| Burgundavia | try and tie specs together | 03:46 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i don't see an IP | 03:47 |
| Admiral_Chicago | give me a sec | 03:47 |
| Admiral_Chicago | ah no i do | 03:47 |
| Burgundavia | one thing to be aware of: gobby has no undo | 03:48 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i'll keey that in mind | 03:48 |
| tonyyarusso | Burgundavia: btw, installing gtk for gobby on windows broke gaim for a friend of mine...not sure how to make things share gtk | 03:49 |
| tonyyarusso | silly windows having separated libs | 03:49 |
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| Burgundavia | Admiral_Chicago: for those specs, write only the high priority ones for now | 03:52 |
| Burgundavia | as we cannot be for certain that everything is set in stone | 03:52 |
| Admiral_Chicago | Burgundavia: let me open those links all up so I know what we are talking about here | 03:55 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 03:56 |
| Admiral_Chicago | i'll work on the Desktop Effects section | 03:56 |
| Burgundavia | might want to leave that for right now | 03:56 |
| Admiral_Chicago | alright then i'll do multimedia | 03:57 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 03:57 |
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| lotusleaf | hmmm | 05:35 |
| lotusleaf | a shame the ubuntu roughcut posters news never made boingboing.. and yet.. a story about how to turn your pee blue, did. :P | 05:35 |
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| Joe_CoT | Hey, I'm working on a poster for my LoCo team (an Inkscape ... shop of the "Obey Ubuntu" one). can someone take a look? I'm kinda not good at writing anything interesting :) | 06:03 |
| Joe_CoT | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewJerseyTeam/PosterSpec | 06:03 |
| Madpilot | Joe_CoT, looks good - nice to see my posters being used & modified! | 06:15 |
| Joe_CoT | hehe. svg makes it painfully easy :) | 06:16 |
| Madpilot | use a rougher font for your additions, though - there are lots of 'distressed typewriter' fonts around | 06:16 |
| Madpilot | yes, SVG rocks | 06:16 |
| Madpilot | try dafont.com for piles of free-as-in-beer fonts, including lots of rough/distressed ones | 06:16 |
| Madpilot | dafont even has an entire font category called "Typewriter": http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=113 | 06:18 |
| Joe_CoT | yeah, i see. i'll check it out | 06:19 |
| Joe_CoT | hmmm | 06:19 |
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| Joe_CoT | how do i either render the text, or embed the font? | 06:37 |
| Madpilot | Joe_CoT, select the text, then go Path -> Object To Path | 06:38 |
| Joe_CoT | yes, just found that :) thanks | 06:39 |
| Madpilot | only do that when you're SURE it's all proofread, because once that's done, it's not text anymore | 06:39 |
| Madpilot | and you can't convert path back to text | 06:39 |
| Joe_CoT | yeah | 06:39 |
| Joe_CoT | i'm just gonna hide the original text in a layer for now, till we decide on something | 06:42 |
| Madpilot | that works. | 06:45 |
| Joe_CoT | alright, uploaded the new ones. now it's pretty, but I still need wittier text :D | 06:49 |
| Joe_CoT | also, pathing text really seems to add to the file size | 06:49 |
| Madpilot | it does, text = complex outlines | 06:50 |
| Madpilot | Joe_CoT, too much text in the 'The Ubuntu New Jersey Team is..." section | 06:52 |
| Joe_CoT | yeah. just dunno what to make it. I put that there as a placeholder, mostly, because the text sucks | 06:53 |
| Madpilot | plunder freely. "The Ubuntu New Jersey Team Needs YOU!" | 06:56 |
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| Joe_CoT | haha. I was thinking along those lines | 06:59 |
| Madpilot | hey, if it worked for the US Army, it'll work for anyone. | 07:00 |
| Madpilot | Besides, the early 20th C was a cool time for all sorts of design, it's well worth plundering! :) | 07:01 |
| Joe_CoT | alright, how bout now? (only changed the svg) | 07:14 |
| Madpilot | Joe_CoT, nice | 07:15 |
| Joe_CoT | cool (asked my DART major girlfriend a few times before I asked you again :D ) | 07:16 |
| Madpilot | DART? | 07:17 |
| Joe_CoT | Digital Art | 07:17 |
| Madpilot | cool - I'm strictly a self-taught design freak ;) | 07:17 |
| Joe_CoT | ah | 07:17 |
| Joe_CoT | yeah, this was basically my first foray into inkscape. Seems pretty awesome. | 07:18 |
| Madpilot | Inkscape rocks. There's a good mailing list, too - and #inkscape here on Freenode is useful | 07:19 |
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| jenda | Madpilot: just had a look at themposters. Looking good, thx for the copyright thing. | 09:34 |
| jenda | Do you think you could have a look if the smudges could be changed a bit? I'd feel more comfortable ordering 100 pieces if they were :) | 09:34 |
| Madpilot | jenda, sure. If this snow continues I might have lots of time this week (assuming the power doesn't go out, of course...) | 09:35 |
| jenda | aww | 09:36 |
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| jenda | Can you take a picture? :) | 09:36 |
| Madpilot | my camera still shoots film, not digital, but I could ;) | 09:36 |
| jenda | Nah, leave it ;) | 09:36 |
| jenda | The winter I spent in Canada didn't have much snow. | 09:37 |
| jenda | I felt betrayed ;) | 09:37 |
| Madpilot | this part of Canada hardly ever gets snow, that's why only 6-10 inches of the stuff has f'd up the city so bad | 09:37 |
| jenda | Which part is it? | 09:37 |
| jenda | I lived in Fredericton. | 09:37 |
| Madpilot | Victoria | 09:37 |
| jenda | cool | 09:37 |
| jenda | I guess we've had 10 inches during the winter too. | 09:37 |
| jenda | I was imagining one of those Canadian snow-ins with 6 feet of snow, rather :) | 09:38 |
| Madpilot | meh. We had one of those (~1m of snow in 30hrs or so) back in 1996 - that was memorable! | 09:38 |
| jenda | hehe :) | 09:38 |
| jenda | I saw a picture of the house I lived in during one of those. | 09:39 |
| jenda | It must've been 6, maybe 10 feet. You could barely see the house :) | 09:39 |
| jenda | aaanyway... the marketing mailing list just got an offer for Viagra and Cialis, did any of you order that? Next time please do so privately, not on the mailing list. | 09:41 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot: see planet ubuntu | 09:41 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia, got your asbestos undergarments handy? | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 09:42 |
| Burgundavia | I imagine dholbach and seb128 will be amongst the first after me | 09:42 |
| Madpilot | are they in favour of accelX as well? | 09:45 |
| Burgundavia | no, but they hate it when I raise issues like this, in the manner of confrontation like I just did | 09:45 |
| Madpilot | Thou Shalt Not Shit-Disturb | 09:50 |
| Burgundavia | indeed | 09:52 |
| Burgundavia | and hug and be merry | 09:52 |
| Madpilot | anyway, I need sleep. How did it get to be almost 0100 so fast, anyway? | 09:55 |
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| KenSentMe | Burgundavia: amen on your blog post at planet ubuntu | 11:53 |
| KenSentMe | Good points | 11:53 |
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| jenda_ | did I miss anything? | 12:04 |
| === jenda_ waves at jenda | ||
| KenSentMe | the post about multimedia codecs on planet ubuntu | 12:13 |
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| jenda_ | dayum... I totally timed out there... | 12:34 |
| jenda_ | elkbuntu: did you say anything? | 12:34 |
| elkbuntu | nope | 12:35 |
| jenda_ | said, or received? | 12:35 |
| elkbuntu | hmm? | 12:40 |
| jenda_ | said nothing, or received nothing yet, elkbuntu{ | 12:45 |
| elkbuntu | um... im saying things when you prompt me jenda, what is the problem? | 12:46 |
| jenda_ | I was enquiring if you received a package yet, but didn't realise you're busy. sry | 12:48 |
| elkbuntu | oh.. package. no, not today. it's not that im busy, rather sleepy and confused at how you were asking | 12:49 |
| jenda_ | ok :) | 12:49 |
| jenda_ | Disregard me, I can be confusing during sociology class... | 12:49 |
| elkbuntu | how unsociable of you : | 12:50 |
| jenda_ | 12:53 | |
| YoussefAssad | I might be a bit dense, but I can't quite tell if Corey's post on planet is pro or anti blobs | 01:09 |
| jenda_ | I don't have the impression it's either. | 01:09 |
| elkbuntu | YoussefAssad, anti. | 01:09 |
| YoussefAssad | elkbuntu: oh, okay. Congrues with my opinion then | 01:10 |
| davehat | YoussefAssad: isn't it both? | 01:10 |
| jenda_ | But it obviously states the nonsense of accepting some blobs for bling and not taking other, more important ones. | 01:10 |
| YoussefAssad | davehat: I can see I'm not the only confused soul. | 01:10 |
| davehat | that covers all interpretations then :) | 01:10 |
| davehat | apart from pro | 01:10 |
| YoussefAssad | jenda_: Yes, but I can see that sort of opinion prevaling in the current ubuntu atmosphere mind ye | 01:10 |
| elkbuntu | davehat, the way i understand it, he's saying 'it's bad, but you might as well go all the way if you're going to go part of it' | 01:10 |
| elkbuntu | the good man can correct me if i've missed the point | 01:11 |
| YoussefAssad | Or maybe corey's flipflopping; preparations for a run for congress, taking the solid center and refusing to commit to a platform | 01:11 |
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| jenda_ | YoussefAssad: | 01:11 |
| elkbuntu | he's likely snoring his little canadian head off right now | 01:11 |
| jenda_ | most probably. | 01:11 |
| YoussefAssad | jenda_: I'm just being silly | 01:11 |
| jenda_ | I know :) | 01:12 |
| davehat | elkbuntu: actually, I think that's how I read it | 01:12 |
| poningru | what are we talking about? | 01:13 |
| elkbuntu | my personal view: i dont mind forcing blobs to make things functional. i do mind forcing not only blobs, but bling as well. | 01:13 |
| elkbuntu | i found compiz/beryl to be a pain to have enabled all the time | 01:13 |
| poningru | hehe | 01:14 |
| poningru | true that | 01:14 |
| davehat | elkubuntu: its also a nightmare to install. I reckon a large number of people must give up before they get it installed - and they're the people who actually wanted it in the first place. (Sorry, I realise this has been re-hashed ad nauseam and this ain't the channel for it either). | 01:18 |
| elkbuntu | hehe, im off to bed, g'nite | 01:21 |
| YoussefAssad | I think it needs to be discussed, _especially_ by the marketing folk | 01:21 |
| elkbuntu | agreed, and afformentioned action | 01:21 |
| poningru | nn | 01:22 |
| poningru | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UMtyvHCzvU | 01:31 |
| poningru | jenda: dude whats the link to the lists thing? | 02:03 |
| dotwaffle | jenda: 25 shiny dollars (well, whatever that is in GBP converted to Czech Moolah) on it's way to you ;) | 02:33 |
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| poningru | mmmm carne asada | 03:02 |
| poningru | a burrito is not a sandwich!!! | 03:02 |
| lotusleaf | poningru: indeed! :) | 03:03 |
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| poningru | :D | 03:03 |
| lotusleaf | however, there's the carne asada torte or however you spell it | 03:04 |
| poningru | btw our software freedom day documentary | 03:05 |
| poningru | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UMtyvHCzvU | 03:05 |
| lotusleaf | <- dial up :P | 03:07 |
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| jenda | dotwaffle: w00t | 04:14 |
| jenda | dotwaffle: only drawback: I just sent a shipment, so your's'll go on monday. | 04:14 |
| dotwaffle | That's no problem ;) | 04:17 |
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| somerville32 | m | 08:13 |
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| stelt | I have some ideas for the spreading of free-er computing in general (in which Ubuntu is an important ingredient), for which i bought freedomdrive.org and homecomputerhelp.org, and as hosting is not in place yet i have previews at http://steltenpower.com/homecomputerhelp.org and http://steltenpower.com/freedomdrive.org Want to hook into this to spread Ubuntu? | 08:29 |
| somerville32 | stelt: Feel free to bring it up on the mailing list :) I'm sure people would love to discuss it. | 08:30 |
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| somerville32 | http://lists.ubuntu.com | 08:32 |
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| jenda | so... | 10:20 |
| atoponce | :) | 10:21 |
| jenda | the project was too huge to complete, so I chose an alternative aproach. | 10:21 |
| atoponce | not sure if #dvorak wanted to see all that or not. :) | 10:21 |
| jenda | (which I could do while studying, too) | 10:21 |
| atoponce | yeah. looking over the wiki, it's fairly long | 10:21 |
| atoponce | but i can see how it covers a lot of ground | 10:22 |
| atoponce | i'm definitely interested. what can i do to help with SpreadUbuntu? where to begin? | 10:24 |
| tonyyarusso | Will the SpreadUbuntu site be online by Feisty release? | 10:24 |
| tsmithe | hopefully | 10:25 |
| tsmithe | depends what you want in the site | 10:25 |
| atoponce | is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/SpreadUbuntu current? | 10:25 |
| jenda | tonyyarusso: could even be :) | 10:25 |
| jenda | but not in it's entirety | 10:25 |
| jenda | atoponce: not really. | 10:25 |
| jenda | as I was saying... | 10:25 |
| jenda | I decided to focus on the DIY section of the project for now, atoponce. | 10:26 |
| atoponce | what is needed for DIY? | 10:27 |
| atoponce | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing ? | 10:27 |
| jenda | That's one thing. | 10:27 |
| jenda | I didn't yet have time to organise it well, because I kindof got used to the state that there's no one to help with it ;) | 10:28 |
| jenda | and suddenly some people started to, quite intensively :) | 10:28 |
| jenda | I'll pastebin one roadmap I've charted... | 10:28 |
| atoponce | cool | 10:28 |
| atoponce | ahh cool. the ubuntu stand. that came from our loco team. mike moore i believe created it. | 10:30 |
| atoponce | i had forgotten about that | 10:30 |
| jenda | I think so too :) | 10:30 |
| jenda | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34642/ | 10:30 |
| jenda | here | 10:30 |
| jenda | keep in mind it's about two weeks old... | 10:30 |
| atoponce | ok | 10:31 |
| jenda | ...and replace "I will" with "needs to be done" :) | 10:31 |
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| tsmithe | urgh | 10:35 |
| atoponce | jenda: so, if i have the idea, you want to spread the word about people making their own ubuntu "stuff" and centralize it into one location? | 10:36 |
| atoponce | tsmithe: not a dp drinker eh? you know, it's the nectar of the gods... :) | 10:36 |
| jenda | atoponce: that's only step one. | 10:37 |
| jenda | atoponce: step two is creating a centralised database for Marketing Howtos. | 10:38 |
| jenda | I'm _really_ looking forward to that. | 10:38 |
| jenda | It should contain all the ideas the community came up with for local marketing campaigns. | 10:38 |
| atoponce | i see. help others get ideas about how to SU in their locale | 10:39 |
| jenda | From asking your retailer to give out CDs with sales to creating a computer room at the local school. | 10:39 |
| atoponce | yeah. ok. | 10:39 |
| stelt | OK, sent it to the list | 10:43 |
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| stelt | OK, sent it to the list (this time not sabotaged by a broken connection) | 11:29 |
| jenda | stelt: are you arriba at steltenpower dot com? | 11:31 |
| stelt | jenda, yes, i am. sent it off wrong e-mail adress. My e-mail connection was on/off/on/off etc. | 11:35 |
| jenda | that's ok | 11:36 |
| jenda | I'll let it through, but if you want to keep using this address, subscribe it to da list. | 11:36 |
| jenda | or... nevermind, I'll just set it on accept. | 11:36 |
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