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[01:44] dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface isBlanked [01:44] perfect === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:46] :) === jdong continues tweaking his dpms timeout workaround === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@211.154.174.45] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] Hobbsee!! === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] heh :) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] grrr. [02:06] O.o [02:06] right. [02:07] :) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:25] anybody know where I could get the source of some python KDE apps? I think some of the ones that were coded for kubuntu are pyqt... === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:28] ryanakca: guidance-power-manager is in pyqt [02:28] kk... === ryanakca apt-get sources it :) [02:29] i think [02:29] pretty sure it is [02:29] yeah, it is, I think === ryanakca wants some example source code in front of him... so that I can see how this stuff I'm reading is used [02:30] smart [02:34] hmm... I get the "import" stuff... but after that... looks like giberrish... "self._initBrightness()" doesn't tell me anything... [02:34] ryanakca: classes :) [02:34] ryanakca: what are you reading? [02:34] http://diveintopython.org/power_of_introspection/index.html [02:35] a byte of python is also a good read, i think [02:35] ah yes... [02:35] and it's not very good... http://www.hetland.org/python/instant-hacking.php was better than it is [02:35] that's what i've read part of === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ryanakca thinks he's going to go out and get himself O'Reilly's Learning Python...; === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:35] O'Reilly usually has good books :) === Hobbsee bookmarks that too === ryanakca grew on that hetland's stuff and ended up with http://rkavanagh.homelinux.org/websvn/filedetails.php?repname=Learn+Python&path=%2Fmyproject%2Ftrunk%2Farea.py&rev=0&sc=0 [02:36] my first program... even though it's quite simple, compared to some of the stuff I'm looking at :D [02:38] robotgeek: it is... [02:38] ryanakca: you should probably make that a function [02:38] make what? [02:38] sec [02:39] way cool === Hobbsee likes hte way python seems to handle a cout and cin [02:40] cout/cin... C++'s console out... and in? [02:40] or something else? [02:41] yes [02:42] kk.. *finds C++ too confusing at the moment* that's why I settled with python :D [02:42] ryanakca: ah, i see that you have put the new teritiary operator to good use [02:42] I'll probably look at C++ again sometime down the road :) [02:42] teritary operator? [02:42] that last input for running... the y/n ? [02:43] yes [02:43] if i am getting that correctly :) [02:43] guessing ,err [02:43] lol === ryanakca is starting to get hooked on the bad habbit of one-liners :) [02:44] hehe [02:45] awesome! [02:45] http://www.smh.com.au/news/wireless--broadband/nsw-to-roll-out-free-wifi-service/2006/11/29/1164476252715.html [02:47] http://rafb.net/paste/results/q9d6z337.html ryanakca [02:48] and substitute "blah" with my code? [02:48] ryanakca: yeah, i am still on python 2.4 :) [02:48] lol [02:49] ryanakca: if you do it this way, you can have a cheap unit test thing [02:49] sudo apt-get install python2.5 [02:49] unit test thing... that's for... 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Anything new and exciting to put, please highlight me with the information - try to provide links if at all possible. Thanks everyone! 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[11:30] Jucato!!! [11:30] :) [11:30] bug 70991, known issue? [11:30] Malone bug 70991 in kdeartwork "Disabling energy saving of monitor; changes the normal screensaver to a e.g. blank screen or a screen with an X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70991 === Hobbsee_ [n=user@124.189.12.73] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] ey there goes your clone! :) [11:31] hi Hobbsee_ [11:31] hehe === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+oo Hobbsee Hobbsee_] by ChanServ === Hobbsee_ was kicked off #kubuntu-devel by Hobbsee (You should know better. Bye!) 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[03:57] Seriously? [03:57] herd 1 freeze is on now, yes [03:58] O.o [03:58] for main [03:59] oh === Hobbsee wishes that qlabel/python-qt4 bug was fixed. [03:59] for a moment there, I just read Herd as Hurd :P [03:59] heh [04:03] Ha ha :) [04:03] That would have been an uncomfortable moment :) [04:13] QUESTION: is Hobbsee really the Queen of the Universe (QOTU) [04:14] hehe [04:14] I just put that question in queue :) [04:14] err, well, there's no King of the Universe, so no... [04:14] hehe :) [04:14] if she were queen, instead of a scepter, she'd have her long pointy stick of doom :) === DaSkreech applies for Supreme Power Exotic Ruler of Multiverse === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge ! http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Please add things to the agenda, we hope to have a Kubuntu meeting soon after Riddell gets back. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Meetings === Hobbsee points at the topic [04:18] item #1: modify kubuntu-desktop postinst to remove konqueror and install gconf [04:19] hah === Hobbsee attacks crimsun with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [04:19] crimsun: but why would we want to install windows registry? [04:22] Which is one level of hell more powerful than Mozilla registry === mbiebl [n=michael@e180120209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === eln [n=konversa@port-83-236-238-37.static.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:41] good afternoon [04:43] Good noon [04:43] good evening (almost midnight)! :) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:06] ok, what is new for Herd 1? [05:07] that is the question [05:09] I really need new glasses.. I keep on seeing that as Hurd 1... [05:12] only 2 features implemented according to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:14] hm... is there any plan to let mountconfig in kde-guidance support the libata-for-all-disks spec? === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm10.omega19.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong_ [n=jdong@d192-24-18-234.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=vlos@206.248.110.144] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-40-122.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180120209.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #kubuntu-devel === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@206.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:00] is this a good "solution" to building feisty packages on edgy? (or edgy on dapper) http://pupeno.com/blog-en/unstable-packages-on-ubuntu/ === pascalFR_ [i=lz47UkoV@82.230.174.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:42] on the surface, is there anything new for herd 1? right now I have the kernel I am going to write up === zorglu_ [n=zorglub@206.43.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@gprs-pool-1-022.eplus-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lloydinho_ [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-004-225.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.179.196] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-118.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Roey is now known as WorkRoey [09:39] nixternal: how's the patch for bug 73384 ? I thought you generated it, didn't you? [09:39] Malone bug 73384 in kubuntu-docs "Localized Kubuntu documents missing" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/73384 === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] imbrandon: had chance to look at my ktorrent patches yet? === luc_ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === luc_ [n=luc@230-82-244-84.zapcechy.adsl-llu.static.bluetone.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@gprs-pool-1-022.eplus-online.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:54] Riddell: ping === Porkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-56.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] mhb: string freeze doesn't allow me to do so..i have to wait for Riddell to do so [10:12] nixternal: oh. Ok then. [10:12] what about feisty docs? [10:12] we have a long time until those are even ready for translations [10:12] are they present yet, even though they will be modified heavily? [10:12] oh [10:13] we are workign on the topic based portions now [10:13] OK, we should not forget about that (again :o) [10:13] how can one check the progress? [10:14] progress of the documentation itself or of translations? [10:14] translations won't begin on documentation until the beginning of March 07 [10:14] documentation itself, translation is clear [10:14] I know [10:15] you can follow via the svn repo possibly...if we can get the status="review" type stuff on the svn server, then you will be able to follow via reports [10:15] otherwise, you follow the doc commit logs [10:16] ok === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] nixternal: was it you who was writing that kubuntu book along with a couple of other people? [10:18] which kubuntu book? i know there are a lot of "supposed" ones in the making [10:18] but i haven't seen much...supposed to be working on the "Switching to Kubuntu from Windows" stuff === ash211 [n=andrew@user-11210ts.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:20] yeah, I think that's the one... [10:20] whoever it was had given me a link for docbook and xml [10:20] could have been me [10:20] oh, and should I clear the agenda? seeing that all the topics are "2006-10-05 17:52:09" (last meeting) [10:20] my brain is shot right now...i am somewhat done with homework for tonights class..and i had to write a stupid script to read a silly textbase [10:21] meetings ey...haven't been in one in a while [10:21] how is that openweek stuff going? [10:21] there hasn't been one in a while [10:21] (UDS yes, but not an IRC one) === ryanakca points to the topic === ryanakca takes that as a yes? [10:25] I agree, it's all discussed [10:25] (except for my membership application, oh boy) [10:26] lol [10:26] I was just looking at that [10:26] btw, is your site supposed to display the same text on all 3 pages? === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495675D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:28] ryanakca: I'm surprised somebody actually looked at it :o) [10:28] ryanakca: no, I'll fix that [10:28] ryanakca: forgot to translate the other 2 [10:29] sorry .o) === Porkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-59.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuku_ [n=j@e179004120.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] mhb: lol [10:59] any workarounds for uic trying to open network sockets in pbuilders? [10:59] creating ./plugins/logviewer/logprefwidgetbase.h [10:59] Session management error: Could not open network socket [10:59] (and so on) [11:00] I'd really like my builds not to sleep for 10 seconds after each command :D === Porkotron [n=parker@dyn129-100-97-69.bc.uwo.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:04] hmm... no clue... 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